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It’s not that the low n women are generally grossed out by the high n men’s count; it’s that they’re as equally grossed out by the low n hunters’ attitudes as the high n women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:10 PM
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Promiscuity and casual sex frequency being correlated doesn’t make promiscuity impulsive behavior in and of itself. People are either comfortable with having casual sex or they are not, and they act accordingly. It may just be that more impulsive people tend to be comfortable with it, and less impulsive people tend not to be. But that doesn’t mean every person that has casual sex is impulsive or having it impulsively, nor that every person who avoids casual sex is not impulsive. There are people…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:05 PM
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Casual sex isn’t an indication of impulsivity if the person having it sees no reason not to have it. It would be impulsive if a person was intentionally trying not to have it, but failed, but that’s not what most people having casual sex are attempting. That’s like saying, “reading books is so impulsive!” A person who reads would be like, “what are you talking about? There’s no reason not to read and I’m not trying to abstain from books, so why is it impulsive, exactly?”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:04 PM
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Women also lose half of the mutual property and wealth during a divorce. Say the marital assets between a couple are, for simplicity purposes, one house, two cars, and 500k in savings/investments. The couple divorces and split the assets 50/50. They sell the house and move into smaller, less valuable houses. They each get one car and 250k worth of the savings/investments. Both of them are objectively less well off compared to when they both had access to all of the assets as a married couple. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:00 PM
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You wouldn’t force yourself to date someone you don’t want to date. You would examine your internal beliefs, where they come from, and what concepts they’re rooted in. Then you address whether they’re serving you or hindering you, not just in dating but in all aspects of your life. Then you let go of and change the beliefs that are hindrances, and see if your preferences change. I’ll do an example. Belief: “Women who have lots of partners are used and dirty.” Where that comes from: “I view sex a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:11 PM
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Your boyfriend’s kind of a dick and you should probably break up with him. He thinks you having sex with him makes you dirty, and less valuable. Why? Because he sees himself as dirty and a devaluation to you. Why the fuck would you want that? Run. Find someone with healthy views on sex and women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:17 AM
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Idk, have you thought about maybe being a person with an attractive personality and not playing games with sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:13 AM
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I’ve been getting triggered and breaking rules for like 2 months now and the fucking mods won’t just ban me already
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:32 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:14 AM
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Perform boyfriend duties for some bitch you don’t even like until she gives you a crumb of pussy. Super alpha brah
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:07 AM
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Eat my nuts, @mods https://imgur.com/a/Ew4wKnp
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:04 AM
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Everyone here is a loser. I will escape
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:33 AM
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Fuck off. You don’t know what words actually mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:51 AM
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They are fucking gross. I despise them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:44 AM
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As I said women have preference based on sexist stereotypes and gender norms as well. You’re welcome to be more specific, and then we can examine where the icks actually come from. Sometimes they are also problematic, like male biphobia, which is also coincidentally rooted in sexism and to a degree, homophobia. That's fine, preferences dont hurt anyone all that much. I don’t think you understand the impact of a vocal minority of men espousing over and over that they don’t want low n women affect…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:03 PM
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I usually got tested once a month, or any time a partner asked me to do so, which was surprisingly often. But they always paid for the panel, and I was happy to get them… I think if you want to be consistent and super safe, you’ve got to maintain that standard no matter the n count of any potential partner. If someone’s not willing to wait two weeks for their panel results to have sex with you, or they don’t want to use barriers, tough luck; you gotta tell ‘em it’s not gonna work out. Either way…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:29 PM
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Acknowledging contributing factors is not necessary shifting the blame. Cheating is always wrong, but on the other hand, your spouse deserves satisfaction too. You gotta ask yourself how you can make that happen for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:23 PM
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There’s such a thing as STD screenings and barrier method risk mitigation, nowadays. Plus, people can get STDs from blood transfusions or their mothers during gestation or birth without ever having had sex, or STDs from having sexual contact with a single other partner. You should be using protection and both getting tested before contact with someone new, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:33 PM
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Idk. Why would you go looking for better dick if you’ve got good dick at home? At risk of a very painful death? I don’t expect men typically had great sex with their sexually inexperienced, force-married wives, either. They probably got prosecuted less for cheating, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:30 PM
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most of the promiscuous women online are taken. I don’t think they’re paying that close attention. The ones that aren’t taken usually have more issues that make them undesirable than n count
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:26 PM
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That’s too stupid of a comment for me to even reply to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:25 PM
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Do you know what the definition of “exception” is? Give me literally any other non-gross reason for not wanting high n women. I’m super curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:21 PM
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I mean, if they were stoning legit adulterers and adulteresses, then yeah, kind of. Side note: how bad in bed do you have to be that your partners risk death by stoning to have sex with someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:17 PM
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Nobody’s taking issue with men having preferences like: “I like short/tall women” -“I like career/trad women” -“I like blondes/brunettes/redheads” -“I like straight edge/420 friendly women” The issue with saying “I don’t want a high n woman” is where the preference comes from, and what is required of women (sacrificing their sexual enjoyment) which is not required of men, in order to be pleasing to the individual with the “preference.” I mean like, it’s fine if you don’t date high n women. Nobod…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:15 PM
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I definitely prefer my husband bearded, but he prefers to be clean shaving. What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:09 PM
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high n-count or body count, but virgin is used always there's literally no other word to describe those men except with virgin, an insulting word. “High n” is not inherently insulting unless you yourself have internalized a high n count as something that is bad. So any time someone bothers to write “high n” instead of some derogatory term, I’m taking that as perfectly neutral language in and of itself. I’m sorry that people have weaponized the word “virgin.” I don’t think that’s right. We were a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:06 PM
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You ask them their n count so they ask yours, or you tell them yours if they don’t ask. Don’t let none of these men remain ignorant and suddenly yank your relationship because it comes out years later that yeah, you’re a sexual being and he can’t handle that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:41 PM
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Maybe he had a nice butt
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:39 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with asking a woman her n count, nor anything wrong with adults trying to date other adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:37 PM
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There are a few of them out there. They are about as equally as rare as women who have 300+ n counts… The average number of lifetime partners is around 7. The upper limit I hear most often from men here is 10. This is not as big of a problem as men are making it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:36 PM
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I literally don’t give a fuck about being filtered out. When I was dating, I intentionally told men my n count on or before the first date, that way I didn’t end up wasting time with anyone who cared about mine, or who wanted to take the “ignorance is bliss” route. Guess what? There were still PLENTY of men who were interested in relationships with me. And today, I am happily married to the most wonderful man I could ask for. The arguments in and of themselves are perfectly sound. You should try…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:34 PM
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It’s more like, “how painful is sexlessness while you’re horny and waiting for a worthwhile man to come along? (Also you’re forced to be married because in these times women aren’t allow to do shit independently. So, sometime adultery.)”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:28 PM
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“Not care at all” or “not care about your specific n count at its present value?” Because the former is rare; the latter is not difficult to find at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:26 PM
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100%!!! Why is it so hot though?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:25 PM
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What I said was that it’s never “just a preference,” not that it’s never expressed without derogatory terms and insults attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:15 PM
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Pretty good. Just got back from a nice lunch date with my wonderful husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:12 PM
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Most of the time I have seen it mentioned men just say "I dont like high n count women". All those reasons only come up when a woman comes in and keeps asking the reason behind it. Like just accept the preference and move on, and no one will feel insulted. “I have x problematic belief rooted in problematic reasoning, but it’s not problematic as long as you don’t ask about that reasoning!” Imagine if I was like, “I don’t think x race of people are really people, but don’t ask me why because it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:09 PM
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I’m in a StepBet game. Also, it vibrates every 15 minutes to tell me to drink water, otherwise I literally don’t drink any water (thanks, ADHD). And if I don’t have my phone in my hand at the moment, I can still see if I’m getting an important text/call/email.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:43 PM
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I can’t imagine that’s a very comfortable experience for the make up-wearer. Imagine you give yourself a big confidence boost by completely changing your face, and then at the end of the day you have to wipe it off and look at your less-attractive real face? I couldn’t handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:25 PM
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Now you’re just gaslighting. You can’t possibly not have heard high n women called “sluts,” “whores,” “easy,” “used [up],” “loose,” “dirty,” “c*m dumpsters/socks,” and whatever the fuck else they call us? Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:15 PM
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It’s never just “we don’t like high n count [women].” It’s a bunch of derogatory name calling and things like: -Men not wanting women to enjoy sex the same way they do (double standards, usually coming from their own sexual shame that they project onto women.) -Men not wanting women to have a reference for actually good sex so they’ll settle for bad/mediocre sex with them (insecurity) -Men thinking of women like objects or toys that are passed around or “used” by other mean, instead of human bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:09 PM
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Only if they consciously acknowledge it’s performed for the male gaze and not “for themselves.” (I mean, FFS, you can’t even see your own face unless you’re in front of a mirror or camera all day)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:00 PM
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Because people feel like if they don’t act a certain way or like certain things associated with masculinity or femininity, then they need a special gender identity, rather than just acknowledging that not all women do/like abc and not all men do/like xyz and being a man/woman who defies gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:58 PM
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Hmm… maybe she should try a sensual massage and then masturbation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:56 PM
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What kind of books do you write?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:54 PM
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Having pretty women at your company also brings in more money from other men the company is interacting with. That’s one of the reasons why restaurant like hiring pretty waitresses and hosts, and retail stores, pretty cashiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:51 PM
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Maybe he is too big? My man is 7 in, but on days when my cervix is low, sometimes it’s really uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:49 PM
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Absolutely not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:47 PM
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Agreeing to a polyamorous relationship and not caring are two very different things. I don’t disagree, but there’s a lot of stigma attached to non-monogamous relationships, so sometimes people don’t know how to go about talking about it in a way that doesn’t cause drama. So one hypothesis is that she was cheated on, per the agreement to a monogamous relationship, but perhaps the cheating didn’t actually bother her, and then they had a conversation about it. (And maybe she was planning on moving …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:39 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:35 PM
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The female trigger fish in my husband’s tank would rather be single and alone than partner up with the male trigger fish, and I feel so bad for him because he’s really a very handsome and kind fish, and he’s trying his best to woo her… maybe she is just gay? Alexa, play “Pink Triangle” by Weezer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:54 PM
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Really?! 😲 I didn’t know that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:30 PM
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But a woman who’s not particularly interested in a relationship has the same amount of power to enter into a relationship regardless of whether she has sex with a man early on or not. Same as with men. Getting into someone’s pants doesn’t mean you’ve secured a relationship with them. Both parties still have power to say that’s not what they want and exit the situation at any given time. Neither has power to make the other stay, even if they’ve had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:29 PM
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I never said pick me girls don’t exist. I just think there are conditions that must be necessary for a given behavior to be accurately called pick me, like the woman sacrificing her own happiness to be appealing to men. Like I said, maybe the girl who was cheated on honestly didn’t care about it, in which case taking the man back wouldn’t be pick me behavior. But it definitely would be if your interpretation of the situation was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:26 PM
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I’ve seen 30 yo women who eat perfectly clean, get plenty of sleep, hydrate well, and never go out in the sun, who live in the least polluted part of the country still get signs of aging. They’re more subtle than those who aren’t taking good care of themselves, but they’re still there and noticeable enough that they don’t look like a 20 yo anymore. Theres this narrative that if you don’t look like a 20 yo into your thirties, then it’s your own fault. Really, I think a big part of it is just out …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:23 PM
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I am slightly biased, but in the other, more optimistic direction. All I’m saying is, we don’t know the full story, and we’re hearing about someone’s friend group that was posted on Reddit and then reposted to PPD. A lot can get lost in translation. Like, I feel perfectly equal to my partner; I still don’t care if he sleeps with other women, even if I don’t have a desire to sleep with other men. There’d be no reason to say that he couldn’t if the opportunity arose. Same with him not caring if I …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:19 PM
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Lol. sorry hun
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:11 PM
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Nah, I think it’s just biology.. the only women who don’t really look 30s in their 30s are East Asians. They’ve just got magic genes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:10 PM
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There’s nothing contra-indicating a non-monogamous relationship either. You’re just judging the situation with your personal bias
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:09 PM
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She was a real g
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:08 PM
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Bro, what
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:06 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/15f6xei/comment/jucdq7j/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:05 PM
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Lmao. Just go to the top of a tree and shout that you want sex, and then bury yourself for a 17 year long nap. Sounds clutch
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:04 PM
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Downward head tilt so that you’re looking up at the person, dilated pupils, slight smile that reaches the eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:01 PM
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My brain went “bug -> Volkswagen Beetle-> beetle” so that’s what I said. But then when I thought about it some more, I figured maybe I’d like to be a firefly, and make the summer night beautiful with a bunch of other fireflies, or a house fly, so I could do whatever the heck I wanted for three days, have sex, lay eggs, and then die.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:00 PM
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Well, we’re hearing about this from a very distant perspective. The way I see it, there are probably 3 possibilities: 1) the woman was cheated on, felt hurt by being cheated on, and moved in in attempt to lock down the cheating man (in which case she is a pick me) 2) the woman was technically cheated on, but didn’t really care, they probably had a discussion about non monogamy going forward, and she moved in with him (as she perhaps was planning anyway, who knows) 3) the man wasn’t actually chea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:58 PM
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Of course 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:52 PM
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I don’t see how sleeping with a woman early on gives you greater power to either deny a relationship or enter into one, though. That’s what you said originally. She either wants more than sex with him or she doesn’t, regardless of how early they have sex. And vice versa, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:51 PM
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I feel like you just can’t conceive of someone being perfectly neutral about having a non monogamous partner, so you’re starting from the point of “everyone cares, therefore, everyone who is non monogamous lacks self respect.” Let me try an analogy. My husband doesn’t like bananas, and I do. However, me eating bananas doesn’t bother him, so he’s fine with me eating them. That’s not him lacking respect for himself just because he won’t impose an unnecessary restriction on me. He’s content whether…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:48 PM
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Well, generally if a woman walks up and starts chatting you up, one might assume she’s interested in you. So I was just deciding in my head whether you should have asked her out or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:43 PM
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I don’t think letting your partner do something that doesn’t actually bother you counts as doormat behavior, though. That’d be like saying all ENM couples are mutual doormats
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:41 PM
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I feel like it’s only Pick Me behavior if she does actually care but she’s pretending not to in order to be more appealing to the man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:35 PM
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So probably average
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:33 PM
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This is the “off topic” daily thread. People post about all kinds of things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:27 PM
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That still doesn’t give men who have sex early on any greater power. Either she wants to date him or she doesn’t. It takes ongoing mutual consent to form a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:24 PM
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Maybe she just didn’t care that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:20 PM
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Is she hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:11 PM
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My Starbucks barista just asked me if I was a bug, what kind of bug would I be. I think maybe she was high af. Felt like a Hinge prompt IRL… maybe I should have asked her out
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:08 PM
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Some of them don’t, but I don’t see how that gives them more power to determine whether a relationship happens
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 12:58 PM
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I was just really horny (I had a huge ovarian cyst that was doping me with androgens on top of late bloomer regular hormonal changes) and I thought he was good looking enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:54 AM
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GimpGirl?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:47 AM
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There was this one guy I matched with on tinder who I thought was cute and was intent on smashing. He said he was 6’4 on his profile; definitely closer to 6’ irl (I’m not complaining; I don’t really care that much about height anyway. It was just the first red flag.) We went for a walk on the trail near my house, and he started showing me pictures of this mansion and a fancy cars (idk jack shit about cars, nor did I care), and asking me if I liked them, and I was like, “Sure, they look nice?” An…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:44 AM
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Idk; I don’t really get sexually jealous, but for some reason in my mind multiple times with the same person would be better than once with multiple people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:24 AM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:10 AM
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What if it happened multiple times with the same person?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:03 AM
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Q4All: If you were presently married, would you want to know that your spouse cheated on you in the first couple months of your relationship? Would that answer change if you thought you two had lost your virginities to one another, but your spouse actually lost it to the person with whom they cheated you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:44 AM
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I get outside all the time. I see 30s yos and they are visibly aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:42 AM
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Sometimes I gotta get the thoughts out
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:41 AM
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Depends how fat you are. Very fat people sweat a lot more, and morbidly obese people are at a higher risk of certain infections between their skin folds, often because of a lack of mobility needed to wash beneath them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:54 AM
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I’m glad I got sterilized, otherwise I would make 100 babies with my husband. He’s so fucking sexy. Our kid is amazing… life is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:52 AM
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I disagree with whomever I disagree with
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:50 AM
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Well, I wouldn’t say that. Lots of people find a partner and get married and have kids in their 30s. Women are able to get pregnant into their 40s; it’s just much more difficult and risky than when they’re in their 20s and 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:46 AM
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All I’m gonna say is that I’m glad you’re not my coparent
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:42 AM
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I have seen many young girls who look much older, and I only realize that they’re not that old because they’re getting on a school bus, or they’re in my step daughters’ grades, or they’re holding the hand of a boy who obviously hasn’t hit puberty yet. Teenage boys look like teenage boys, and they’re not walking around shirtless in places where it’s inappropriate to be shirtless. They’re also not expressing discomfort over being ogled by adults (now, whether that’s because they’ve been conditione…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:41 AM
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It’s hard when you can’t go outside with your daughter without seeing half naked girls everywhere, or when you’re processing some childhood trauma. I mourn not being able to have just been a kid. I mourn the way that affected my whole development and a huge chunk of my adult life. I don’t want that for any other child, not my own nor strangers. I get that you’re not concerned about it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:16 AM
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I hope to god nothing bad ever happens to them, but wouldn’t you just feel awful if something did and you remember how many times you posted that exact sentiment here? (It’s more than one.) Don’t get lax
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:12 AM
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I’m a woman (and a mum.) The Taliban would say these girls are sluts and need to wear burkas or that they’re ready to be married off. I am expressing concern that children are being confused for sexual adults because of the way they’re choosing to present themselves, and that maybe just a bit more coverage (a full length tank top that’s not so low cut, and shorts that actually cover their buttcheeks and don’t give them cameltoe, for example) might make them either actually less stared at and sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:09 AM
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I’m not “blaming” you for anything; I’m pointing out that I think it’s odd you’re focusing on the woman in this situation instead of the man, and then using “well I’m a hetero male; that’s why” as rationale for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:00 AM
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The one on the right does. The left looks 18 to me. am in therapy as an adult for some issues related to being sexualized as a child, and now I have a daughter. This is an important thing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:50 AM
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You, as a man didn’t stop to think about what might make a new father cheat on his wife, so that you might avoid it, or so that we can advise other men on how to avoid it? Pretty sure, if what you’re upset about is a family being broken up, that your wife isn’t gonna cheat on you right after passing a whole human through her vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:46 AM
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You’re not listening https://twitter.com/FrivviFox/status/1283483956797747200
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:34 AM
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I mean, cheating is shitty, but it’s shittier coming from the person who’s committed to a woman who just went through nine-ten months of hell, then labor and delivery, and then all the after-effects of postpartum to bear him a child, to whom he owes a stable family… I just don’t see why you’re focused on Ariana here, other than the fact that she’s famous and possibly because she’s female
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:33 AM
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It’s not just “teens wearing make up.” It’s “children wearing a shit ton of make up that makes them look like 20 yos” Like, okay, maybe a bit of mascara, blush, and some lip gloss would be fine. But when you get rid of your acne, give yourself “siren eyes,” and contour the baby fat out of your face, you don’t look like a kid anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:24 AM
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Children should not have their breasts and butts on display in order to “look nice.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:22 AM
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I’m not saying that it’s right to leer at children.. but when we’re letting children present themselves as not only as what comes across as adults, but sexualized adults? I think that’s problematic as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:19 AM
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So… we’re not gonna talk about the fact that a man with a newborn was cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:14 AM
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Big disagree. It’s just more natural-looking make up now. The “clean girl” aesthetic still requires a large number of product applications, and some girls are using it to make their faces appear more adult. https://youtu.be/OkqxisM4tow
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:59 AM
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She cheated while pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:57 AM
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The opposite of “abuse” isn’t “subtlety.” It’s “respect” and “kindness.” You can be direct, honest, respectful and kind about an issue, and still get the results you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:57 AM
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Yes. A nap + cuddles
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:23 AM
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Good
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:07 AM
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Exactly! Like idk when it became acceptable to walk around in basically sports bras and wedgied boyshort underwear in non-athletic settings, but this trend is not good
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:05 AM
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I feel like 13-17 yos are dressing and wearing full faces of make up in ways that make them look like full grown adults, and then complaining on the internet about how men are so creepy for leering at children. I’m not victim blaming or anything, but I’m also not sure what they expect to happen. I will never, ever let my daughter out of the house looking like some of these girls
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:00 AM
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There are ways of dealing with it in sensitive, calm, and kind ways… There are so many resources on effective and gentle parenting skills these days that there’s really no excuse to do it any other way. I am so grateful to be a parent in this era.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:56 AM
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I’m sorry that happened to you. I also think that sort of thing might be relatively common, that spergy people learn to mask well as result of facing bullying, abuse, or unforgiving social environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:48 AM
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18-25 yo men are not attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:40 AM
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You absolutely can control your voice and body language. That’s what speech therapy and mirrors are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:39 AM
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I would not call that a “high functioning” autistic individual. High functioning autists are capable of learning how to mask so well that they are virtually undetectable. Yes, this is a possibility with lots of dedication, hard work, and intense focus whenever the individual is around others. It is exhausting, but possible. The dude in the video is likely in need of a lot of therapy, based on what he’s saying, in addition to needing to learn to mask.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:37 AM
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Jesus. Aren’t you sore afterwards? How long do BJs and HJs take?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:27 AM
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I think women probably look most sexually attractive from ages 18-25. (Probably some earlier in the body, considering girls are unfortunately developing adult-like bodies earlier and earlier these days.) After 25, collagen and hormone production begins to slow, and certain lifestyle choice start catching up with us (like stress, lack of sleep or hydration, not wearing sunscreen, etc.) By 30, the majority of women lose the youthful look.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:26 AM
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Of actual penetration? Non stop? That’s like, too long I think like 5-20 minutes is ideal. Most of the age peers I got with lasted less than 5. They could go for “multiple rounds,” but that doesn’t matter if they can’t get me off in one round… intermittent sex is just not good
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:34 AM
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12-15 look the best on men, imo. I like the thicker look
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:31 AM
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Please, for the love of god, explain why you keep putting “19-21” as the healthy BMI range. That’s factually INCORRECT
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:30 AM
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Wait wait wait… Ariana had a baby?!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:28 AM
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Youth = fertility. The most attractive female faces exhibit some neotenous features mixed with more adult features (like dark eyebrows and a leaner, more structured face)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:25 AM
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Young women are hot no matter how old others get. I don’t see what the issue is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:24 AM
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Men’a reactions to compliments are so wholesome and adorable <3
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:23 AM
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Maybe you should get your hormones checked and stay off of the internet for a while? It’s very unusual for men to not find many women atttactive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:21 AM
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Peachy, oniony, sweaty pits!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:19 AM
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Depends what they are feeding it and whether it has hormones and stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:19 AM
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Men are so can be so hot 🥵
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:18 AM
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We used to say that last part before every cross country meet… miss those days :,(
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:15 AM
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I have found that older men tend to last longer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:11 AM
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And bad body odor
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:10 AM
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I certainly don’t feel any superiority as a woman. Just dread, thinking about how my face is gonna change
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:09 AM
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You don’t actually need soap to get clean, unless you work like a super messy job
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:08 AM
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Even then, Megan Fox still have marionette lines and a super saggy neck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:05 AM
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You probably just don’t notice all the signs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:04 AM
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30s is 30-39. At age 30, most women have at least light marionette lines, and their bodies aren’t super tight like a 18-25 yo’s is. You can see some drooping around the knees, thighs, buttocks, triceps, and armpit/boob line area. Sometimes the neck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:03 AM
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I feel like you’re assuming that no men are trying to be in committed relationships, which I have not found to be the case
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:00 AM
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Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:00 AM
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It’s so good to see people who actually understand how stats work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 09:29 PM
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Marriage is nice
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 09:26 PM
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I’ve seen a lot of people on here insisting women look good into their 30s “as long as they take care of themselves,” but I think even the ones who do take really good care of themselves still look aged. Like, they don’t look the way they did when they were 20 and you know they’re 30+ still… collagen and estrogen production slow down, you know? Women get looser-looking and saggier and have marionette lines. Men get wrinkled, but I think it looks just fine on them. They get bigger and thicker. Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 09:16 PM
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And toddlers had cool ankle socks with ruffles on them. And people wore overalls and watched movies
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 09:07 PM
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I don’t understand how having sex early on in the relationship gives the man more power (to determine whether there will be a relationship?) I slept with lots of guys early on and then decided I didn’t want to date them afterwards, whether because they were bad in bed or just not my cup of tea personality-wise. The ones that rejected me never had sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 09:03 PM
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The 90s seemed pretty cool
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:42 PM
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It definitely skews perception… my one brother is 9 years younger than me, and we used to wrestle all the time, and of course I was bigger and stronger than him when we were kids. But then I didn’t see him for several years, during which time period he hit puberty. I picked a play-fight with him and it was immediately apparent he is now MUCH stronger than me, even though there’s probably a 15lb difference in our weights. Also remarkable: my 1rm on the bench press is like 120lbs, which I think is…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:42 PM
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Said thanos as he killed half of the population. Don’t be dramatic. I’m not killing people. I just declined to be in committed relationships with men who didn’t have a certain amount of wealth. Nobody is owed a relationship with me; it’s not immoral to reject people based on whatever criteria one wants to impose. Which logic? Self-preservation? What do you mean, “which logic?” It’s logical to pick a life partner who is going to allow you to have the lifestyle you desire for yourself. It’s illogi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:34 PM
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Men and women are generally best suited to different things, and that is okay. We are meant to be complimentary to one another, not equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:54 PM
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But ultimately the psychological foundation of someone who sees nothing wrong with that is exactly the barrier that would stop them from forming genuinely healthy and profound connections to people. That is where you’re wrong. Like I said, I was always equally capable of having feelings for both broke men and wealthy men. I just didn’t let myself have feelings for the broke men. I did let myself have feelings for the wealthy men. That is how I ended up very much in love in a healthy romantic rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:49 PM
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You’re assuming that any relationship with a partner intentionally chosen in this manner is inherently transactional and loveless. You can have love with a broke partner. You can have love with a wealthy partner. (Or any other way you want to measure success.) It’s just a matter of which one you end up picking. Most people are conditioned into picking the first one they catch feelings for, because, like you, they believe that holding out for a loving relationship with a successful partner makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:23 PM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:20 PM
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You’re missing my point. Picking a successful older partner doesn’t mean that your relationship is loveless. What I’m saying is, you shouldn’t build a life with the first person you fall in love with because you think love is all that matters. You should reserve love for a high value and successful partner who can give you a high quality life. I already explained what keeps an age gap couple together; you weren’t listening. I’m done discussing this with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:17 PM
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That’s fair, and I’m happy that you feel that way. I personally never wanted to just “get by” or need help buying property. I wanted a partner who could give me a high QOL without me ever having to work a job from the jump.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:12 PM
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You don’t choose who you develop feelings for, but you do choose who you don’t develop feelings for. So, if you don’t date LV, unsuccessful men, you won’t catch feelings for them. If you start catching feelings for a LVM who you aren’t dating, cut that shit off. If you only date HV, successful men, you can catch feelings for one of them, and you’re all set. I don’t know why anyone wouldn’t do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:09 PM
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Pumping and dumping isn’t real. It’s a thing made up by women who feel bad about having had sex, whether it’s because they wanted to have sex and for it to lead to an actual relationship, or because they didn’t actually want sex but they had it for ulterior motives and didn’t get what they were seeking. If you only have sex when you just want sex, or only have sex after a man has demonstrated the commitment that you seek, you cannot be pumped and dumped. Anyway, you have to be HVW yourself, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:06 PM
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The highest class of doctors is also the smallest percentage of doctors. The likelihood of a dude becoming part of it is small. That is a gamble. You can just pick the already successful doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:01 PM
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“Building a life together” is still a thing even if you do it with an already successful partner. You can chose a house together, start and raise a family, split the responsibilities, experience the world together, and accomplish your goals. It’s just a LOT easier if you have a successful partner from the start. Like I said, my advice to single women is this: if you can fall in love with both presently successful and potentially successful men, pick the already successful ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:57 PM
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You can eat pizza and still be hot. You just can’t stuff your face with it constantly. I will never understand not wanting the highest quality partner you can get, but if you’re happy, you’re happy, ig.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:53 PM
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I mean love is the most important thing. That’s how you keep him. Love is important, yes, but it’s sure as fuck not the only thing you should base your choice of life partner on. It’s also much, much easier to remain in love if you’re not constantly stressed about money, where you’re going to live, whether your partner’s neglecting the baby in favor of playing childish ass video games, etc. You’ve got to think of the whole picture: how do you want your life to be? How can you best set your relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:50 PM
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Right. And if you want kids before you’re 30, it’s better to have them with somebody who is financially established. I had mine at 24; ain’t many 24 yo men who are financially prepared for a baby these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:40 PM
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Exactly. I wasn’t gonna be anyone’s starter gf
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:38 PM
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I have had this discussion with my husband. I expect him to tell me if I’ve somehow gained a significant amount of weight without noticing, and to hold me accountable to getting back to a healthy and attractive weight. Making sure I’m not stuffing my face and skipping the gym. I’d do the same for him. I don’t think it’s fair of anybody to gain an unhealthy weight if their partner committed to them while they were at a healthy weight. (InB4 someone comes in with “YoU wOnT HaVe ThAt AtTitUdE AfTeR…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:36 PM
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So how about instead of shaming men who date younger women, we focus on educating (not infantilizing) young women about what they should expect from a partner? There needs to be pushback against the “love is the most important thing” narrative and brainwashing that wanting a well-to-do man is shallow and makes you a gold digger. Teach women to laugh in men’s faces that espouse that bullshit. They’ll either rot in resentment, or better themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:30 PM
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It’s inherently implied. I worked hard to be in great shape, and I kept myself presentable, stylish, feminine. I put a lot of effort into developing an attractive personality. I put myself in spaces to meet successful, HVM. If I hadn’t done that, or if I did and still picked a “potentially” successful man, I’d still be waiting for him to reach that full potential right now. I wouldn’t have been able to have kids on the timeline that I liked. I would have been well into aging when he was just com…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:27 PM
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A dude who is Magna Cum Laude at his medical school has demonstrated he has much potential to be successful and wealthy. However, he is still a riskier bet than an established doctor. You should consider other circumstances, like what the job market looks like, if he’s got any common sense and good intuition (you can be book smart but still make a shit doctor if you can’t figure out what’s wrong with people and how best to treat them,) if he’s going to have a good beside manner, etc., when decid…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:18 PM
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Not “hoping.” Actively snagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:14 PM
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How many successful and single and committable men do you know off? They weren’t difficult to find when I was dating. I married one. You pick a partner which is already successful oh wait you don't get to pick because competition for those men is high. You have to compete for them and risk losing. You should already be maxxing yourself out in order to get the highest quality partner possible. With the state of the world, it’s not difficult to be well-above the rest of the “competition” with just…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:12 PM
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I am not down for the romanticization of dating broke, yet-to-be successful men with the mentality of “growing together.” There is no reason that you can’t continue “growing together” even after he is already successful. It is inherently riskier to commit to and invest in a man that you think will eventually be successful, rather than one you already know is successful, when you are equally capable of developing feelings for either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:04 PM
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Because deadbeat broke men are deadbeat broke men. Not all of us were easily impressed; I very much enjoyed dating wealthy, successful men in their 40s-60s in my adult teenage years, not just because they could pay for nice things for me, but because they were good men with enjoyable personalities. This whole thing with “all older men dating younger women are losers, and all those younger women are dumb children who don’t know any better” trope is so tired
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:56 PM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:34 PM
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Yeah and the majority of men going after 19 year olds aren’t millionaires. That doesn’t mean every [adult] teenager with an older man is naive and easily impressed. (And I would hesitate to even call 19 yo and a 24 yo together an “age gap.”) But there’s a reason the stereotype is 19 year old girl with a dead beat loser 30 year old bf. It’s because that’s what they usually find. So why are we criticizing the men and not the women for having low standards? These are consensual relationships, after…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:30 PM
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How can you say that it was mostly women? What’s your source on that? Again, women are only half the population. We don’t have the power to change anything alone even if the majority of us want to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:15 PM
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70
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:11 PM
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Okay, my hiking trip is planned and the accommodations are booked. I just need to finish acquiring the rest of my gear, clean the house, and purchase the food we will eat. On Saturday, Hubby and I talked about it some more, and he again mentioned feeling left out. So on Sunday, I took him swimming and hiking. He was not super into the water, and did not have fun on the hike. So hopefully he feels less left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:09 PM
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Tbf, women only make up about half of the population, and so in order for there to be a majority vote for anti-choice politicians, there must be both men and women voting for them. And since men never experience pregnancy, I absolutely do not think they should have a damn bit of say about abortion,
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:05 PM
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Speak for yourself; when I was 18 I was dating millionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:03 PM
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There are many different kinds of [potential] power imbalances, and they exist in peer relationships as well. What matters is how partners treat each other, despite their respective advantages. It’s just always assumed that older men are using their “greater life experience” to abuse their younger partners because of prejudice. I absolutely treasure my older husband’s life experiences because it benefits both of us. But nobody against AGRs considers that to be a possibility. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:01 PM
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I’m fucking an alien
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:55 PM
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I don’t know why the assumption is always that he “can’t” get older women, rather than he just doesn’t want them? It’s not exactly like we get prettier past 25
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:51 PM
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Because if you ask men IRL if they care about their female partner’s income, most will tell you they don’t. They just want someone who adds value to their life and has goals. My experiences support this as a broke bish who jumped classes super easily
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 02:12 AM
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Sure, but men can also do that. Right, but the vast majority of women care about men’s careers. And you haven't in any way demonstrated that men don't care at all about a woman's career, income, ambitions or achievements in order to secure commitment with her. I’m just speaking from experience as a 26 yo who’s probably earned a total of less than $40k in her entire life. I’ve never had a well-paying job nor have I ever been in education with the intention of getting a well-paying job, and I stop…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:40 PM
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Well, it depends where you start. If you’ve got a leg up, you can work smart and not hard. If you’re starting from nothing, you’ve got to work hard AND smart to make it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:35 PM
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I’m a bi woman and I do the smash/pass
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:33 PM
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That’s odd Isn’t it? Like it’s not an unmarried couple’s fault that no one takes their relationship seriously unless they say they’re married, or that society grants greater social status to married people. It’s like a weird form of victim blaming. There are people who are safe to sleep next to who would absolutely take everything they can get from you if the relationship goes bad… although, I think that’s the point of pre nups, but others don’t really trust them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:30 PM
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Streets 👉🚪
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:27 PM
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I’m not in agreement with “men only care about looks.” My position is that looks and personality matter in terms of women securing commitment from HVM, but not their money (as long as they’re not irreparably in debt) or careers. Again, you can achieve things and have “ambitions” that are not money or career-related.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:25 PM
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You can care for your household and raise great kids, volunteer, become really great at your hobbies, learn new things, accomplish tasks that others have not before, just generally seeking to better yourself or the world you live in. Yes, that requires a basic amount of income, whether that’s working at the minimal liveable wage for minimal hours, or having a spouse or family that financially provides for you. I have found that men who do not come from money and are monetarily ambitious do not c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:50 PM
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If the first thing he needs in 20 straight hours of baby care is video games, he’s for the streets
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:33 PM
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If you call your not-spouse a spouse and people later learn you’re not actually married for one reason or another, people think you lied to get the social status. There are lots of benefits to legal marriage, but many of them can be obtained through other means, and so people do that in order to avoid certain disadvantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:32 PM
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My husband just went to law school and worked three non-sexual minimum wage jobs. Now he is wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:25 PM
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Most average dudes are thinner when they’re young, and then they gain weight after they marry average women. (Most people get fatter as they age.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:24 PM
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You can have ambition without having a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:20 PM
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Her looks will get her sex with the top men, but she needs to have a good personality to get them to commit to her. But yes, she can do that without a career and money. (It’s pretty hard to say that you have a good personality without also achieving something, even if the something is just a lot of volunteer work or being a good mom or something like that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:19 PM
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If they don’t have game, they don’t have game
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:16 PM
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Well, “boyfriend” sounds too childish (what are you, 16?) and won’t be treated seriously. “Significant other” is another option, but it’s vague and kind of a mouthful… there’s not really any great options for “lifelong committed partners who aren’t intent on legal marriage”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:10 PM
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Tbf, if a man was caring for a kid on his own for 20 hours, I think he’d be asking for more basic necessities, like sleep or the ability to bathe himself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:06 PM
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I’m not an older man, but I was the female half of that equation when I was younger… My husband wouldn’t sleep with me on the first date; that made me obsess over him until we did have sex. He’s also got a really hot bod (very muscular), and he’s smart, witty, generally fun. He can talk about deep things but also crack stupid jokes. I think he’s got the personality of someone younger, like closer to 35 than 51. Maybe that helps. Maybe not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:03 PM
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On MWF, first thing after breakfast I go to the gym, and then I do housework until it’s time to serve lunch, and then I work from 12-2pm, and then I spend 1-2 hours doing something fun for my kiddo, and then it’s time to cook dinner. I take half an hour after dinner to clean the kitchen, then at 7:30 I start the child’s bedtime routine and hope it doesn’t take two hours to get her to bed, and then I catch up on unfinished tasks or watch TV with my husband, have sex, and go to bed between 10 and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:04 PM
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Men put women in two categories, fun and serious. Yes. And not all of them sort them by n count. Also, the men who care have differing ideas about what’s too high. There are men who only want to commit to virgins, and there are men who are fine with 50+… Recently I’ve heard a lot of men here express n count limits that are relatively uncommon, considering the average. The idea that high n women are struggling to get commitment is just a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:51 PM
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No. There’s also the blue and purple pill school of thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:41 AM
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But you’re wrong. The school of thought that is the original TRP is beneficial to both men AND women. The advice from the married women of RPWives comes from TRP. (And again, RPWIVES is different from RPWOMEN. You can’t just say “RPW” and group them together in order to dismiss both of them.) FDS is in direct opposition to TRP. They think RP men are incel misogynists with fragile egos. They are not “two sides of the same coin.” FDS is not “RP for women;” TRP is RP for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:41 AM
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Well, depends what kind of relationship you’re interested in. Do you want to be a SAHM with a provider husband? RPWives. Do you want to be an high earning, independent woman with a man who worships you? FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:36 AM
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Saying RPWives, RPWomen, and FDS are all the same thing is like saying the Red Pill, Black Pill, and incels are all the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:31 AM
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Red Pill: this is how women are, so do x, y, z and they'll bang you That’s TRP for men. TRP for women is “this is how women are, and this is how men are, and here’s how to get out of your own way as a woman and get good men to commit to you. FDS: this is how men are, so do x, y, z, and they'll commit to you Yes, except for they’re feminist and their advice is different from RPWives (which is the true TRP for women) RPW: This is how men larping as women think other women should act to attract sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:10 AM
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They are completely different, with different philosophies both on the nature of men and woman and the strategies that women should adopt when dating. FDS: “women are Queens and most men are scrotes and women should have their own careers and money, raise their standards as high as possible, and make men work harder to date them” Red Pill wives: “Women have some flaws and being aware of them helps to improve your relationships. Men should lead and traditional gender roles are best. Your standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:00 AM
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It is absolutely not. FDS is feminist-centered and sneers at the concept of male leadership/female submission
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:50 AM
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The first post is “meal kits are making my life easier” and the second post is a woman venting about the hardships she is experiencing in her daily life, and the comments are full of women saying things like: It helps me to remember that my husband works hard too. And he really doesn't give himself much grace when he makes mistakes. He treats me better than he treats himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:49 AM
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It’s unusual for women to lose their virginities to non-boyfriends, isn’t it? This is very vague
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:38 AM
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TRP is more “men are this way; women are that way. How do we put this info to good use to achieve success in relationships, whether we want casual sex or lasting committed relationships?”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:11 AM
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Are you the one who is 6’8?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:07 AM
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FDS is not TRP for women. TRP is TRP for women. r/redpillwives is a good resource for putting TRP’s knowledge to good use.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:03 AM
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Avoid r/redpillwomen. that sub has been overtaken by loser, abusive men who give really shitty advice. r/redpillwives is better; it’s run by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:02 AM
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Just being a perfect partner despite your man not behaving the way you want is how you get used. Female dread is still being a stellar partner, but withdrawing emotionally. Just being kind of cold: not much enthusiasm when talking with your partner or excess talking, no unprompted verbal expressions of love, no affectionate touching, etc. If your man doesn’t notice, dump him. If he does notice and cares, he will be worried the relationship is ending and will do more to keep it alive. Alternative…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:01 AM
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Because you are gigantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:55 PM
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What did she mean when she said that? I’m confused
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:55 PM
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Why did you assume she was a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:34 PM
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I understand your answer, but I want to clarify: “Otherwise perfect” doesn’t mean “perfect.” It means “flawed in one specific way only.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:30 PM
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That’s why I said “otherwise perfect.” As in, that’s his only flaw
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:23 PM
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Would you prefer a slightly imperfect man who doesn’t watch porn to an otherwise-perfect man who occasionally watches porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:21 PM
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Can I have sex with the attractive poor man until an attractive wealthy man comes along, in this hypothetical?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:19 PM
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Q4W who are anti-porn: Would you date/marry/stay with a man who occasionally watched porn but was otherwise absolutely perfect for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:17 PM
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Caretakers and home makers
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:11 PM
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I expected men to pay because I didn’t have any money, and eventually I came to desire traditional gender roles in which the man is the provider and the woman (me) stays home and contributes to the relationship through unpaid labor. Any man unwilling to demonstrate that he can provide in the simple ways was eliminated from the possibility of a committed relationship with me. I was also perfectly fine with free/cheap dates in the beginning, until he was sure he liked me and wanted to invest in me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:07 PM
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More evidence that men are down bad
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:00 PM
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“She’s not yours; it’s just your turn with her” has the undertone “all relationships are impermanent no women is faithful/women don’t truly love men” and/or “women are objects with which men take turns and not people with whom men interact.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:52 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:44 PM
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More focus. More housework. More attention to the kiddo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:43 PM
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I feel like you’ve given me enough of a picture to confidently make that recommendation to you. And I’m not the type who quickly recommends ending relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:38 PM
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Bruh, just leave her. nothing you ever say about her is good
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:34 PM
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I have all the feelings today. I love my husband and daughter so much. My life is wonderful and I’m so grateful. Im pissed at myself for not doing more and better. Im really tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:32 PM
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And what does she say when you point that out? If you have to keep data because she keeps twisting reality and gaslighting you, even if it’s “by accident,” fucking run
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:20 PM
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She says her sex drive went from high to ridiculously high. So that probably means her baseline was higher than the average hormonally-healthy woman to begin with, and was having sex with someone she “naturally” found to be “acceptable” rather than “attractive.” When you’re hornier, more people are attractive. When you’re on BC vs off BC, different people are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:07 PM
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50 dicks a day is too many, and my husband isn’t gay, so that’s a “not worth it” for me. If he was bi and it was like 2 dicks a day and he was fine with it, that’d be acceptable to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:55 PM
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If you’re that worried about your partner gaslighting you, you should probably leave them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:53 PM
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The average man is borderline obese, boring, has a shit haircut, and wears generic clothing. It’s not hard to be above average and to get slutty women interested. You don’t have to be a 10 to get casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:33 PM
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Hormonal BC changes what you find attractive, as well as your sex drive. It stops you from ovulating, so the part of your monke brain that’s focused on finding a suitable mate with whom to make bebes is turned off, so to speak, and you focus on personality traits that make a partner enjoyable instead of sexually attractive. I think what happens with women who find themselves unattracted to their boyfriends after going off of BC is that they weren’t really attracted to them in the first place; th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:32 PM
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I don’t have active alts. Just delet periodically because I have internet addiction issues. The women who don’t find any men attractive either have low libidos or spend too much time on social media looking at edited pics. I hypothesize that because of hormonal BC, chemical pollutants, and women generally not taking very good care of their bodies, women are experiencing a loss of libido. There’s also the fact that a large portion of the population is overweight, but there’s still enough healthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:13 PM
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Yeah, I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:54 PM
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I appreciate it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:51 PM
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I mean, I am/was a little insecure about my femininity (I’m a muscular woman with wide shoulders, and my hips were kind of narrow before I gave birth) and so it’s important to me that my partner is bigger and much more muscular in some way in comparison… I would think if a man prefers a much smaller, curvier, softer, physically more feminine, etc. woman that he may have some insecurity about his masculinity as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:49 PM
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Lmao what? There are hundreds of thousands of committed couples that love each other out there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:43 PM
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I thinks it’s just generally icky when the size difference is too great, but to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:38 PM
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I’ve adjusted my expected earnings for the end of my contract. It’s definitely not “constantly.” This will be the first time I go somewhere without him, and I won’t be able to take more than one solo trip alone per year and still save up for the together trips. Plus, I’m still holding up my end of the mutual responsibilities while I’m earning money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:37 PM
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Idt women really care about the V taper as much as men think. I think they just like broad shouldered and muscular men who don’t have a beer gut or feminine hips. A narrow waist isn’t all that attractive imo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:33 PM
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Gotta get insurance that has mental health benefits… Idk what your specific issues with dating are to be able to say whether therapy would help or not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:21 PM
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Well, it depends on what the issues are. You can’t learn game and how to be attractive from therapy, but you can learn things like how to overcome your insecurities, communicate effectively, avoid abusive relationships, open up to love, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:19 PM
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I mostly stay at home. I’m a military reservist and coming to the end of my contract, and I drive for Amazon and DoorDash a handful of hours a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:14 PM
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Try a different therapist or kind of therapy? I’ve been through 6 different therapists before one clicked. Yes, it’s exhausting, but it was worth it to find my current one. She is working wonders
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:13 PM
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He mentioned maybe meeting us somewhere on the weekend portion of the trip, which I would love
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:11 PM
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That’s not uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:11 PM
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Technically me going away for 10 days doesn’t take away from our together-trip time, because him not being able to get away from work right now is the limiting factor here… it will set my savings back a little, yes, but not by too much. Hiking is an inexpensive activity. I should have almost enough to fund an international vacation by the time he can take off work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:09 PM
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Oh for sure….In the past, we’ve gone on wonderful vacations together; I think together-trips are always ideal… we’ve just hit a bit of a slow season, financially, and so the only trip we have planned this year is to Disney, because it’s important to his mum (even though we’ve been like 3 times already and I would much rather go somewhere new. Not that I’m ungrateful, but.) So I’m kind of itching to get out on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:05 PM
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True. What I’ve found is that a good partner will recognize when you’re trying to communicate effectively and understand his feelings, and he is then likely to reciprocate with understanding and willingness to change… a bad partner will not respond this way, and at that point, either couple’s therapy or ending the relationship is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:01 PM
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For sure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:58 PM
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:) we will take lots of pictures
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:57 PM
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That’s something I’m a little worried about, as it’s been 80s and 90s where we live the past couple weeks… but we are going north, so it shouldn’t be unbearable, right? And I want it to be warm enough for swimming, otherwise I’d wait for the fall weather and foliage
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:54 PM
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Two year olds are old enough to play in the forests and rivers and climb on rocks and stuff, aren’t they? In the next year or two, she’ll be too big to carry in the pack. I’m estimating between $1500-2000 total. It’s a couple month’s worth of savings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:52 PM
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Well, we sort of approach finances with him paying for our families needs (while I do all of the housework and childcare), and we use our own money for things that are wants.. I’m also saving up money for future “together” trips, but those are much more expensive, and I don’t make very much working only part time. So it will take time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:49 PM
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If your partner has an issue with accepting constructive criticism, the time to bring that up is not when they are in the middle of a very basic task. It should be discussed when neither partner is busy and both are at ease, in a non-accusatory way, and again, with gentle suggestions and open discussion. “Hey dear, do you think maybe you have difficulty accepting criticism sometimes? Where do you think that comes from? Is there a way I can communicate with you better so you don’t feel attacked/n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:45 PM
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People do it all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:37 PM
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We will be driving at most 2 hours a day for the first 8 days, be sleeping in hotels, and the hikes will be short, with a large percentage of the time being spent playing in the woods and the waterfalls. I have ordered a child-carrying hiking pack so that I can carry her when she doesn’t want to walk, and many of the reviews say their toddlers went right to sleep. We will have maps with the routes, changing gear, snacks, and lots of water with us at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:36 PM
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Define “acceptable n count”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:31 PM
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Okay; I’m having an AITA moment and I need the based people’s input only, por favor. Summer is fleeting, and I wanna go on a 10 day multi-state hiking trip with my 2 yo (partly because I want her with me, but also because the childcare is my responsibility and I have no one close by who can watch her for that long.) I am financing the trip myself. My husband A) doesn’t like to hike very much, and B) can’t take that much time off of work… He is a little bummed that I am going on a trip without hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:29 PM
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You are probably dehydrated. Try drinking more water and taking some electrolytes. Makes a huge difference, ime
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:18 PM
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The correct way to go about correcting a man is to let him do it (provided whatever he’s doing isn’t going to have disastrous results), thank him and then suggest a different way to do it. For example: “Thanks for cleaning that toilet, honey; I know it was nasty… Just wondering, do you think it might be better to use the toilet scrubber wand first and then the pumice stone for stains?” Men are often very insecure, and anything that draws attention to their incompetencies can lead them to become …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:09 PM
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They do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:03 PM
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By “plenty,” I mean that and average person takes care of themself, (eats well, goes to the gym, has good hygiene, wears fashionable clothing, etc) and doesn’t have a completely unattractive personality and the social skills of a toddler, it’s super easy to find whatever it is they’re looking for. There was no shortage of attractive men looking for a relationship when I was dating. There was no shortage of slutty women like me who were down for casual sex and just “seeing where things went.” Any…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:00 PM
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This is why traditionally-structured age gap relationships are the way to go
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:49 PM
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There are plenty of attractive men who want committed relationships, and there are plenty of attractive women who aren’t looking for relationship/are into casual sex. If you think Chad is always sleeping with women and dangling commitment and women have to settle with less attractive men in order to get commitment, please, go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:45 PM
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Maybe? IDK, I havedn't noticed a shortage of dateable men when I was shopping, but that was over 7 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:25 AM
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Do you have other pictures? I'm not sure if your mouth is just small or if you're making an expression in that photo. But yeah, I'd give you at least a 5
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:11 AM
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Somebody else replied that the 'onus' isn't on women who don't find him attractive though, either... so I'm not sure this is even worthwhile to talk about. People are just doing the best they can. I'd say mostly the same thing to women who are struggling to find someone to date: just maxx out as much as you can, including income if you're irreparably ugly or defective in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:10 AM
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I mean, even if you're disabled or disfigured, you can still make money as a man and betabuxx, right? ​ idk this feels like a discussion I'm not even really interested in idk why I'm replying
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:05 AM
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I was being facetious
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:02 AM
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I was gonna say lets be friends, but then I remembered you are my step-daughter's age :(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:01 AM
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Yeah, fuck those guys
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:57 PM
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Well, think about it. if most other people in the world were really focused on achieving a certain thing, wouldn't you wonder what the fuss is all about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:55 PM
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'eyes' and 'chad' don't even rhyme
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:42 PM
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fat women hate themselves plenty. That's why they're eating themselves to death
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:40 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:39 PM
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Im quite partial to a well-done fade
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:39 PM
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I like being in a relationship and having sex and kids. I think even if I didn't actively desire for those things, I would feel like I was missing out on a huge and valuable part of human existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:35 PM
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So basically you just want someone in the same phase as life as yourself, with aligning goals, and you want to conform to the opinions of your social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:32 PM
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Probably not "all," but definitely many
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:28 PM
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It doesn't matter whether Africans were enslaved before the "Europeans started sailing around." The point is that the Euros and the Americans came to "the overall consensus" that black people were inferior as a means of justification for treating them horrifically. This is an example of why "consensus" doesn't equate to "truth." https://library.harvard.edu/confronting-anti-black-racism/scientific-racism https://globalhealth.harvard.edu/racial-bias-in-medicine/#:~:text=Race%2Dbased%20physiologica…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:28 PM
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""sex workers"" who explicitly trick them into thinking they have a chance of getting with her are victims. Those aren't sex workers; those are scammers. Most sex workers actually provide the services they promise, whether it's a lap dance, online content, or purchased sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:13 PM
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Adult men purchasing sex work are not victims
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:01 PM
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It’s very similar behavior to spending money check to check , sparing no chance for short term pleasure in trade of investing in yourself a bit long term (or in sexual terms waiting for a relationship) where there’s a bigger potential payoff ( sex with someone you’re emotionally tied to feels better than recreational sex from what I’ve heard). Just because relationship sex is better, it doesn't mean casual sex won't scratch an itch while you're looking for a relationship-worthy partner. These th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:52 PM
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"I think you'll make a great match for someone else, but it's not working between you and I."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:28 PM
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>So to act on it every chance you get is like spending money every check and not saving money . How, exactly? It's not like money. We don't benefit from not having the sex we want to have. >my mindset is unattractive and therefore IM unattractive It is unattractive. Why would a woman want to be with someone who thinks she shouldn't enjoy sex the way men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:26 PM
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He probably felt emasculated by her income, encountered some pill sphere content, cheated on her, then developed a deflowering fetish, and then tried to do some dread but failed miserably.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:18 PM
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Q4M: Have you ever experienced being fuckzoned? As in, a woman you were having sex with thought you were good enough for sex but not for a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:16 PM
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Think about your lat muscles when you do it, and see if you can feel the engagement. You can also try overhand, wide grip pull ups (or assisted pull ups, if you're not able to do regular pull ups.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:15 PM
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You are bi, though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:51 PM
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That sounds awfully unhealthy, debating to validate your world view. The more important question would be is why the need to validate in the first place, why you'd need either your agreement or that of another. I'm gonna talk about it with my therapist in like, half an hour. I've wasted another day here instead of serving my family like I'm supposed to be. More than that doesn't the existence of a need to validate is a direct reflection of all of the things you've been through? Maybe all of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:51 PM
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There are attractive men who get pussy easily who can't conceive how it can be difficult for ugly or average men. "Gorgeous" is also another tell; men don't say "gorgeous."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:46 PM
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But people think too much with the little head, and end up heartbroken. Female tell
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:28 PM
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Harder, yes. And yet, there are still enormously promiscuous men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:23 PM
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Sure, but the origin of this conversation was you asserting that n count matters to high n people and their partners, or else why would they not want to be open about it, and someone else replied that people don't want to share it because of social stigma, and then you replied, essentially, "social stigma exists for a reason; if enough people believe it's true, it probably is." And then I brought up examples of other kinds of social stigmas to exhibit why that's not a good or logical stance. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:21 PM
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It's probably not just because you are male
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:10 PM
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Sexist and slut shaming men have no bearing on me. I've rejected the shame and I'm happily married. I care a lot about this topic mostly because my experience has been so completely different than what is commonly believed to be true here. If I'm being honest, I grew up with an emotionally abusive parent who gaslit me all the time, so that's probably why I keep returning to the subject over and over again: I'm validating my worldview by debating. I also believe people can kill others with varyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:08 PM
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*shrugs* I'd do most of it again if I went back in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:53 PM
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I had to guess, maybe 40ish men? 10 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:46 PM
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I think you're overcomplicating it, honestly. It doesn't sound like you have much experience with casual sex; that's probably why you're being vague about the "processes." I've met up with people, found them attractive, slept with them NSA, and walked away just fine. I don't have any internalized shame or anything like that to make me feel bad about it. I didn't catch feelings for every person I slept with. I bonded with my husband well enough to decide that I wanted to have kids with him and sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:45 PM
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My husband's n count is 6, including me. He's still the best partner I've had out of... well, very many.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:36 PM
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Marry someone who is, at a baseline, very satisfactory in bed, physically attractive, and has a strong desire to please you, and the feelings you have for him + his willingness to learn will lead to the best sex, but for different reasons than the best sex you had with the hookup. The alternative is settling for a man that gives you bad or mediocre sex because you have nothing to compare him to, you don't really know what you like, and you already fucked him and you're trying to keep your n coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:35 PM
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I would think so too... But on the other hand, how often do low n people wonder about sex with other people is like? I think what happens more frequently with low n people who cheat is that they're not sexually satisfied with the person they committed to (but don't really consciously know that they aren't, cuz they haven't experienced satisfying sex yet), and then they catch feelings for others, which leads to physical cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:26 PM
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It doesn't matter if I did or not. Yes, it does. That's kind of how conversations work. Discrimination is wrong because it's typically based around something no one had control over. I would counter that with, it depends what you're discriminating against and what your objective is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:19 PM
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I just clicked through a few of the links on the post, and there's a notable absence of a methodology section in them (at least not methodology sections that aren't paywalled.) The abstracts may give results that indicate a strong correlation between two variables, but as it said before, if the data collected isn't measuring what we're actually interested in evaluating, the r value could be 1.0 in 1000 studies and they still wouldn't be objectively useful. The methodology section is where the da…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:03 PM
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You're approaching sex like a weekend joint or some sort of coca cola. Sex can never be just physical gratification, there are always always other psychological elements involved that through that act of sex are given continuity to spread even more in our lives. Some people can engage in casual sex just for the sexual gratification, and there aren't negative psychological consequences of that for them, despite whatever narrative is pushed by sexual conservatives and slut shamers. I certainly don…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:48 PM
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The overall consensus, in historical times, was that black people were unintelligent, savage, and didn't feel pain, and consequently they were enslaved and treated, to completely understate it, poorly, for centuries. But of course, if enough people knew that, it must have been true, right? >"Social stigma" as if people don't make up society. If enough people know a high n-count is bad, then it probably is by overall consensus. Nothing about your earlier comment suggested it applied only to thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:41 PM
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Once you have enough partners, novelty of different ones loses it's appeal. You don't get bored if you settle down with someone who's actually compatible with you and generally good in bed. It also helps if they're sexually adventurous, that way you two can mix it up and try new things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:35 PM
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Nope. Sex with someone you love is much better than casual sex, and you get all the other benefits of a healthy LTR as well, like intimacy, companionship, joined assets, combined efforts towards common goals, reproduction in an ideal environment, protection of each other's well-being, etc. Casual sex is just for getting your sexual needs met before you meet your person worthy of an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:33 PM
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Generally, the STDs that can't be prevented with condoms exhibit visual signs when they are transmissible, like crabs, herpes sores or genital warts. Visually inspecting a partner's mouth and genital region helps prevent these STDs as well. Oral sex can also be had using barrier protection, although it is rare that people do that. Female-on-female sex gets a bit trickier with STD prevention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:29 PM
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I've been reading basically non-stop for 72h now, and one time I spent a whole year just reading I know this is an exception but beyond it you can absolutely wreck yourself just by reading. I mean, anyone can be addicted to anything, but the reason why addiction is bad is because it causes you to neglect other, important aspects of your life. Somebody can be addicted to reading and stop exercising, eating well, working, spending time with their loved ones, etc., and obviously that's problematic.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:21 PM
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depends on what he consumes, if he's hydrated, and whether he smokes. Men who eat a lot of fruit tend to have sweet-tasting ejaculate. Dehydrated men have really thick and pungent ejaculate. Smokers... well it just tastes fucking nasty. Like, nausea inducing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:04 PM
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My definition: hot, wealthy, good in bed, smart, funny, secure, generally a good person, would make for a good parent/is a good parent The more of these traits a man has, the higher value he is. (You're right that a HVM doesn't cheat in the first place; I'm filing "loyalty" under "generally a good person.")
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:59 PM
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I'm really sick of weirdos going on and on about how women need to "control themselves" sexually. Why? What for? So that they remain attractive to men who don't want them to enjoy themselves and have weird, misogynistic views? No fucking thanks. The only valid reason I can think of to intentionally keep your n count down if you're a woman who likes casual sex is mitigating STD risk, but even then, you can just use condoms and make sure that all your partners are being tested regularly. Also, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:54 PM
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Should we apply that reasoning to racism and sexism too?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:43 PM
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It's not a matter of "not being able to control themselves" if they see no reason not to have as much sex as they please and therefore aren't *attempting* to control themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:41 PM
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I wasn't ever asked out by women when I was single or before I wore a ring, either
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:25 PM
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>then I'm sorry to tell you but he's solely using her body and nothing else. Nobody is "using" anyone else in consensual, casual sex. If you're trying to use sex that you didn't actually want to have to secure a relationship, and you're mad that it didn't work, you don't get to retroactively say that person was "using" you. You still made the choice to have that sex. I'm really tired of people saying this to absolve themself of any sort of responsibility for their own choices. like honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:17 PM
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>men also need less of an emotional connection and are also significantly easier to please. Women who have casual sex do so without an emotional connection. Women being harder to please is a reason *why* some women are promiscuous; sexual pleasure is important to them and it can be hard to find somebody who brings them pleasure. The only way to find out if a man is good in bed is to sleep with him, and trying them out racks up one's n count. >I'm not saying that women should not sleep around at …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:13 PM
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Correlational studies on this topic are fundamentally flawed. N count obviously increases every time a person is sexually disloyal, and infidelity tends to end relationships, which leads to singleness and more sexual partners. There's also the fact that n count increases as time progresses, as well as the number of relationships people have been in, as well as opportunities for infidelity. It only makes sense that someone who is young and is in their first relationship and has an n count of 1 is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:03 PM
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Okay.... so why is consensual sexual violence bad then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:49 PM
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You don't think people with an age gap can have the same values and priorities?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:45 PM
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What kinds of things do you feel like you need to have in common with your partner to date them? I'm curious, because I'm starting to think maybe I don't have a ton of things in common with my husband, but I still love him and can't imagine being with anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:43 PM
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Nobody is perfectly well-adjusted. There are some pretty batshit insane young women dating their age mates, too. What's a few daddy issues here and there?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:41 PM
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I forgot what I was going to say
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:31 PM
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Last night I heard squeaky yelping outside, and when I went out, two of my dogs were staring at this critter on the ground. I hurried them inside, and tried to figure out what it was. It was grey and tail-less, and its ears appeared round, as far as I could tell in the dark. My first thought was that it was a rat, or perhaps a leveret, judging by the shape of the head.. anyway, it was dragging itself away through the grass, and I was being eaten alive by mosquitos, so I went back inside and went…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:31 PM
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No. The point is that going to the gym makes you less soft looking, and therefore more appealing to higher socioeconomic status men. Not necessarily that all women who simply "go to the gym" end up looking like professional bodybuilders
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:16 PM
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I'm so triggered right now. how dare you make me look at that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:45 AM
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You don't just feel... restricted by compression pants? I've never felt like I needed support for my muscles... maybe a little for my butt when I get into periods of skipping the gym, but usually a standard pair of boyshorts works just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:42 AM
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The posters are usually out of their gourd, but the commenters are alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:37 AM
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I wish I lived nearer to a base. I loved the gym at my MOS school... And yeah, the YMCA is pricier and tends to be full of older folks who dress more functionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:36 AM
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it's like 68 degrees there. certainly not cold enough to wear leggings if people are actually pushing themselves.. which these women are not, because like I said, they're not sweating. they're there to look hot and get attention and make women who go to gyms look bad
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:35 AM
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good
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:33 AM
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No thanks. It's too hot for long pants, and I prefer for my bottoms to stay out of my ass crack
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:32 AM
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I have a nice body. I don't go to the gym to look like a slut; I go to actually work out. a form-fitting tank top and a pair of running shorts looks fine; these women are in stretch pants that are being eaten by their ass, hair down their backs (because they're not sweating enough for that to be a problem,) and either in low cut crop tops or just non-supportive sports bras. I mean, honestly. This is why no dude there is willing to give a woman a spot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:30 AM
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idk why actual gyms can't have dress codes... probably because they'd lose out on money from the gen z thots giving women a bad name
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:27 AM
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Chill out dude. I have noticed that it's almost always broke men that like the overweight and soft women, whereas the wealthier men prefer lean and fit women. There are studies that also support this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:25 AM
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Sure, being fit definitely helps both genders be attractive. However, I think if women are looking to meet higher value men, they should get fitter. as per the comment I linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:22 AM
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how do I stop hating all the women dressed like stupid skanks at the gym? (you can tell they're just dressing like that for attention because it's not functional workout attire. but every time I go to that gym I get so pissed)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:20 AM
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because male muscles are hot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:18 AM
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>Random excuse, he's just dishonest. Nah, IDTS. We were on the cross country team together for 3 years, and I'm pretty sure he knew I had a crush on him all that time. He was generally nice to and protective of me. He also had a girlfriend who he ended up marrying and just had a baby with. >I didn't really care about other girls when I was already in love with someone else. Right. He definitely had tunnel vision. >Wow, women are honestly rarely ever called creeps/weirdos. IDT I was creepy. But d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:17 AM
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Women: go to the gym to get higher value men. https://www.reddit.com/r/QOVESStudio/comments/14zkh5e/comment/jrytezp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:04 AM
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Let me ask my husband
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:58 PM
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BRB, passport bro-ing my way to Washington
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:57 PM
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*convince*
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:56 PM
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I would like to be the woman, but in the past I think I tend to take on the man role :(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:55 PM
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I think I've done it three times in my life and all of them were rejections... One family-zoned me ("I think of you as my little sister,"), one was in love with my best friend, and the other just thought I was a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:52 PM
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"Showing your emotions" is not the same thing as being "depressed, soft, [and] mentally weak"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:47 PM
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You probably just need to recomp, not really go down too much in weight
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:44 PM
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*crosses Seattle off of "places to visit" list* fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:40 PM
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Right. So how do I convince them to have it with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:39 PM
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a 20 dollar drink better be like 75% alcohol and absolutely delicious
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:38 PM
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I've never been asked out by a woman :( I wonder if it's because I look pretty much exactly halfway between masc and femme? I can't imagine I exude only straight vibes; half the time I ask my husband if my outfit looks alright, he says I look like a queer in a sweater
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:37 PM
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eat less, do planks/stomach vacuums, and avoid foods that make you bloated
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:33 PM
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Yes, really... other than I don't have very nice titties... which, now that I think about it, what's even the point of getting with women without titties? Do I have to be the masc one in the interactions?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:30 PM
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Man, I'm in the military. I already mastered fireman's carrying the gay women im tryna smash
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:27 PM
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okay, check. what next?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:26 PM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:26 PM
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so then it'll only be the spoiled incel rich kids who want to shoot up the schools, or the hoodlums smart enough to make drug money and use the dark web who get their hands on guns, and the law abiding Americans won't have guns to defend their homes or children. great plan
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:25 PM
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How to pick up bisexual women as a bisexual woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:23 PM
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I don't have high hopes for any dude still smoking weed constantly and eating like shit in his 20s. I'd wouldn't put money on him changing just because you want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:19 PM
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That depends on if it's used as a noun or an adjective, and whether the person is using it because "women" can be twisted into "People with penises who identify as women" and that requires specification...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:11 PM
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I hate being hit on by men at the clubs. They're always drunk and sweaty and sometimes uncomfortably insistent... I don't think anyone is "gushing" about that to their friends. This is also why lgbtq clubs are generally more enjoyable, but unfortunately they are more likely to be a target of mass violence. I just want to go and dance and feel the energy of the music, lights, and crowd. I wear my ring, which glows in the dark, so it is noticeable even under low lighting conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:06 PM
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sounds super effective. criminals definitely only source guns legally
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:00 PM
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not really machine guns. Rifles are typically fine
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:59 PM
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slut
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:56 PM
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I think men know right away, but it is a turn off to women for them to ask for that kind of commitment too quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:56 PM
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how does one even do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:52 PM
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shut the fuck up. that doesn't have any relevance to the discussion at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:41 PM
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To be fair, the data collected also allowed for participants to select multiple reasons, so it's difficult to isolate how many were just a result of women not realizing they were pregnant until late into the pregnancy. Even then, it's still a fraction of 1%
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:40 PM
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No fucking doctor is going to commit infanticide just because you come to them and ask. I'm tired of anti-choicers and their shitty straw man arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:37 PM
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WDYM, "very few?" *most* women have lasting bodily changes. Even if the risk of dying or becoming disabled is small, what sane person is going to take that risk to preserve an early fetus just because it is, by biological definitions, alive? taking someone off life support is ending a human being's life. do you think that should be illegal? how do you feel about the embryo's created and destroyed in IVF? should IVF be illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:35 PM
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No provinces offer abortion on request at 24 weeks and beyond, although there are exceptions for certain medical complications.[7][8]
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:29 PM
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rape
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:26 PM
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from that same article: Abortions at or after 21 weeks are uncommon, and represent 1% of all abortions in the US. Abortions occurring at or after 21 weeks gestational age are rare. They are often difficult to obtain, as they are typically costly, time-intensive and only performed by a small subset of abortion providers. Yet these abortions receive a disproportionate amount of attention in the news, policy and the law, and discussions on this topic are often fraught with misinformation; for examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:17 PM
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That's what people mean when they say their wife is their best friend. They really like them and want to spend time with them and they're super close and shit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:06 PM
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No, they fucking don't. Their babies are usually dead or have conditions that mean they will die shortly after birth
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:04 PM
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If I have to explain to one more dipshit man on here that women are not intentionally remaining pregnant for 9 fucking months just to kill their babies in utero, I'm gonna ctrl+z someone IRL. Late stage abortions are almost always wanted pregnancies, but terminated because the *fetus has either died or has a condition that makes it incompatible with life.* Babies are *delivered* in the third trimester, not aborted, ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:03 PM
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A child you birth doesn't just go away in 9 months, nor is your body ever the same. Some people are permanently disabled or die from pregnancy or delivery complications.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:58 PM
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That doesn’t seem correct
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:59 PM
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At 8-9 months gestation, the baby is delivered, not aborted. You can’t take a baby out of the uterus which can survive independently, kill it, and not call that infanticide
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:52 PM
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Yeah, but at 6 months, abortion isn’t legal. You’re pretty much fucked at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:49 PM
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Well, not everyone’s periods are regular. But if you’re not using like, 2-3 methods of contraception each time you have sex, you should be taking urine tests regularly. You can get them for like 25 cents a piece off of Amazon. The risk of a pregnancy occurring and going undetected for more than 12 weeks with those measures in place is extremely small.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:45 PM
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12 weeks is a reasonable amount of time to realize that you’re pregnant, and also before the point where the fetus is neurologically developed enough to be granted personhood, so that seems like an acceptable limitation to me. I’m pretty certain like, above 80% of elective abortions are done before 10 weeks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:41 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:37 PM
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I mean, “below average height” is the definition I use for “short.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:34 PM
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People are not fucking waiting til 4 months of pregnancy and then getting an elective abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:31 PM
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I mean, my child almost never cried as a baby, but I suspect that was partially because I was extremely attentive to her needs and held her most of the time, which lead me to neglecting myself and the rest of the household… fortunately I had a supportive partner to help me out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:30 PM
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Apparently, it’s forcing your partner to change for you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:28 PM
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Just because people go home with each other from the bar doesn’t mean that two friends going to the bar means they’re gonna fuck. People go out for other reasons than to meet others for casual sex, you know. I suppose they could go from the bar to a hotel, or just lie about the bar part. But if you’re really worried about that, you can just ask your partner to share their location from their phone for the night for “safety” reasons. (But again, that means you don’t trust them.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:25 PM
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Like, at a navy hospital? Not just a random Lt putting a nexplannon in your arm, right? Military provided healthcare is such a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:20 PM
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That completely depends on the mother and where she lives. I wouldn’t have a child in that financial situation anyway. So one would either have to be retired, have a significant amount of savings squirreled away, or making enough money off of part time work. Unless they’re the untimely recipient of a large inheritance, most women are going to be pretty old before they get to that point financially. All I can say that a great partner is the best solution, and a bad partner or settling are the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:18 PM
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I would switch gynecologists
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:57 AM
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I don’t think hanging out with an opposite friend in public is anything to be suspicious of. What are they gonna do, fuck in the middle of the bar?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:57 AM
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Why would I have to work all day? My salary is good enough to do 70-80%. Even if I had a husband, I would still work and then come home to care for a child. A single mother would have to go to work all day in order to provide for herself and her child, and then come home and do all of the housework and the childcare by herself. At least if you’re partnered with someone, you either have a dual income and then you share housework and childcare responsibilities, or one partner stays home to do the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:55 AM
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They didn’t ask you about whether you had a clotting disorder or a family history of cancer in your reproductive organs? Or ask you questions about your hormones? I’d expect progestin pills would really fuck someone with already unbalanced hormones up
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:50 AM
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That's the same feeling dealing with a woman who puts herself in compromising position all the time and puts your trust to test. That’s not what trusting someone is like. If you trust them, you don’t worry about them when they’re out. Everything is just… fine. For example, another friend's girlfriend used to bring her guy friend to her room to hang out. I understand that he, as her BF should trust her, but the trust is being put to test majorly because what happens behind those doors will be unk…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:30 AM
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Counterpoint: people don’t love other people unless they are receiving some benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:26 AM
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We believe that high value people have no trouble securing high value partners, and that if your current partner is bad to you, or that if you simply aren’t compatible, you should move on to someone who is. Unless you’re like, married
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:25 AM
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Still seems less than ideal to be home alone with a baby, unless you have a relative staying with you to help out… they are exhausting. And to have to work all day and then come home and care for a kid? Plus like, I assume you would get a sperm donor? Doesn’t it make you nervous not knowing most things about the personality of the father of your child?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:24 AM
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Allowing people to take hormones without medical clearance is a bad idea. Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s lots of overweight women (or just particularly large) for whom hormonal BC isn’t effective; I’m imagining these women ending up with an oopsie when their OTC BC doesn’t work and not being able to get abortions because they live in states where you gotta figure that shit out before a urine test will even confirm you’re pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:11 AM
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This is not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:08 AM
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I’d imagine you’d have to hire a live-in nanny or two
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:01 AM
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You’re assuming that people who “genuinely care about each other” get nothing out of their relationships. Having genuine feelings and benefitting from your relationship are not mutually exclusive. I know my husband loves me, but if I stopped taking care of the house and our child, accompanying him places, talking to him, and having sex with him, ours would no longer be a relationship that benefits him, and I would expect eventual divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:00 AM
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That’s what happens when you pick them correctly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:48 AM
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still wants men to provide for her I’m pretty sure that’s the opposite of what she’s saying. She wants to work and provide for herself. Also, in socialized healthcare, most people contribute through taxes, and all members of the society are supposed to benefit, regardless of gender (although I’m not sure how effective that system is because I hear a lot of horror stories about people having to wait months for somewhat urgent medical care.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:47 AM
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Curious what your take is on taking brain dead people off life support, or surgical removal of tumors?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:42 AM
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Single parenthood sounds like a whole ass nightmare
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:39 AM
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Usually if one person is a “burden” to another but they stay together out of love, the “burdened” partner is receiving companionship, intimacy, etc., and still considers those things a benefit of the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:38 AM
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Pretty sure everyone dates people for personal benefit. Why would anyone date another person if they get nothing out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:35 AM
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A secure man isn’t made uncomfortable by his woman having fun and freedoms. He knows that he is a valuable partner and that if his woman fucks up, he can easily find someone to replace her. He doesn’t cling so hard, and he’s able to trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:34 AM
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5’8 is below the US average
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:48 AM
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It’s easier to just carry pepper spray or a gun and let the man pay for a date in public, and if you decline to go back to his place afterwards and he gets angry, well now you’re surrounded by people who can either help or witness, and you’re armed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:48 AM
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Fellas, is it beta to actually really like the person you want to spend the rest of your life with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:46 AM
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Lol, tell that to the women who’ve spent years trying to “communicate” their men to good sex and just never got there. Most of the time if the sex isn’t good right away, you’re just not sexually compatible with the dude. Just something about the way he fucks is always gonna be off, even if he’s aware and trying to fix it. The only exception to this is like, inexperienced guys— they’re always bad at first, but then, of course, it’s still a risk with regards to whether he’ll become good at the sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:44 AM
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Anal rape is not exclusive to male-on-male sexual assault
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:37 AM
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Because they find older men sexually unattractive or they happened to have some negative experiences with men in that age range, and they would never date men that old. Therefore, all men dating younger are evil, abusive, manipulative creeps, and all women dating older are naive, helpless children. What? No, of course they’re not adults with their own preferences!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:27 AM
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I think I’d rather be the former than the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:15 AM
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Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:11 AM
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Went to the phone store with hubby today in order to put the lines in my name and get a discount. Took a hard inquiry on my credit report, but hey, we’re saving like, a thousand bucks a year. I felt really glad that we could operate as a unit like that. Plus, at one point hubby had to leave to go pick up his daughter, and we were on his phone with the activation team, so he took mine with him (our phones are our car keys, and also he needed it in case I needed to communicate with him.) We have e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:09 AM
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The options are: Buy healthy food and not be fat, make it as well as you have time for, and enjoy tasty junk food occasionally, Or Buy unhealthy junk food and fast food, get fat, live in discomfort, and make food your only joy in life (so that you buy more unhealthy/fast food, get fatter, become more uncomfortable and limited, become more reliant on food for joy, rinse and repeat.) I know which one I picked when I was roughing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:39 AM
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Generally you can look up whoever’s doing it and see if they’ve got some other public agenda. For example, if a study is done by “The Family Institute,” you know that they’re biased because they’re Christian conservatives, and it’s not coincidental that all of the “studies” they have published align with tradcon beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:34 AM
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Clubs are essentially places where single people go to find other single people. Or where taken people go to dance. It's the rumors that fly around. It's the way people will see us. I’ve never once ran into somebody that I knew at the club It's the fact that if you walk along the beach long enough your feet get wet. All I’m hearing is that you think that your partner is a cheater and you are a cheater. I never feel the urge to cheat when I’m out dancing. Drinking just makes all those other thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:25 AM
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I’m like a Stacy-lite
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:34 AM
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Denying reality and getting fat is a major turn off for me, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:23 PM
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That’s why if you’re working with your SO to make sure she’s safe but also able to go out and have the fun that she wants to have, you discuss how many drinks she’s going to have. That way she’s not “wasted with single men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:11 PM
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Data is useless if you get it from biased sources
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:08 PM
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Building up men is how you become the starter girlfriend and get left for the prettier, younger, 2nd wife
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:06 PM
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Cousin fucking is legal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:05 PM
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No health insurance?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:04 PM
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If no one here is normal, then none of their takes are valid either, because they’re coming from people with abnormal perceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:03 PM
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Most self improvement is free
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:02 PM
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Sounds like you could benefit from some therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:56 PM
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Why do you have self-hatred?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:45 PM
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How… is that even related
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:43 PM
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SO many statements made here are completely contrary to my reality and experiences, and every time I bring that up, people always go “well you’re an exception to the rule.” Surely I can’t be exceptional in that many ways ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:40 PM
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Whether it body comp, socialization, putting in the work to make an eye catching resume… people would rather complain and make posts whining about how hard shit is than to make any sacrifices to change
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:36 PM
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So explain the difference between “imprinting” and “pair bonding,” and how these are different from “bonding.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:00 PM
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You have to meet a minimum threshold, but you don’t have to be perfect to start out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:59 PM
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RIP bisexuals
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:58 PM
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3lbs in a week is not a lot for like, a 180lb man. I am a 135-140lb woman. I’ve done experiments where I weighed myself immediately upon waking up every day for weeks at a time, and a standard fluctuation for me is like, +- 0.2-0.4 lbs per day, and usually not more than 1lb per week. It’s remarkably stable. The exception is when I’m getting my period; I might gain and lose up to 5lbs within two weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:55 PM
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People will do the most impressive mental gymnastics in order to avoid doing what they need to do to change their situation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:47 PM
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3 lbs is a lot for someone of my size and gender
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:46 PM
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Elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:45 PM
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What do do know is that everyone’s bodies operate by the same biological principles. So as long as the condition that energy intake is balanced with energy expenditure, provided an individual doesn’t have either of like, two conditions that make weight management impossible, each person has control over their weight. Yes, some people live in and with conditions that make weight management harder, but again, people who don’t have hashimoto’s or lipedema absolutely have control over whether they b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:44 PM
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All people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:26 PM
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but not everyone can. Yes, everyone can. That’s what I’m trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:23 PM
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If you suddenly can’t do as much movement, you have to eat less in order to not gain weight
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:19 PM
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How, exactly? It’s not hard at all to find people that have extensive sexual histories and still bond just fine with their romantic partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:15 PM
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Stating facts and offering people solutions to effectively change their lives is not the same thing as judging them. You don’t need “a team of doctors and nutritionists” to eat well. There are free apps and websites that allow you to enter your biometrics and will calculate your caloric and micronutrient needs for you. Then you can enter the things you eat, and start meal planning to optimize your diet. Even if you’re poor, and even if you’re disabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:13 PM
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It doesn’t take much time at all to microwave a potato, frozen veggies, or a bowl of oatmeal, open a can of tuna, boil some rice, beans, or pasta, peel a banana or rinse some grapes, etc. It’s even more time efficient to prep these foods in bulk. You might even be able to afford paper plates and plastic cutlery, if you don’t have time to do a few dishes. The thing that makes cooking take longest is making the food taste good. You might end up with bland food, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:09 PM
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It is not more complicated than CICO. Nobody can synthesize energize out of nothing. You expend a certain number of calories to exist on a daily basis, and if you eat fewer than that, your body must metabolize your fat stores or you will literally die. If you can only afford calorically dense processed food, yes, you’re going to be hungry if you start eating less of them. If you are limited by how much cooking you can do or which foods you have access to, yes, your diet’s not going to be optimal…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:57 PM
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Harder, sure. But they need to pony up and break the cycle. Being overweight AND having a chronic illness is just compounding their misery. Like if you have chronic arthritis, for example, yes, it hurts to move, but it’s gonna hurt worse to move if you’ve got extra weight damaging your joints. So, you gotta move the best you can and reduce the number of calories you’re eating accordingly. Excuses aren’t going to make you feel better in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:50 PM
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Even if the only thing they can do is open a packaged food or microwave it, they still don’t need to eat more calories than their bodies need in order to remain so fat that it hurts their health
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:45 PM
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The cheapest foods in the grocery store are things like rice, beans, potatoes, oats, frozen veggies, canned tuna and chicken, etc. When I was living on $25 for groceries a week, I most certainly wasn’t buying junk food. If I was, I would have been both malnourished AND hungry. Like I said either way, even if the only thing you can afford in the grocery store is a an unhealthy, ultra process, packaged food, you can still purchase less of that food the less money you make. It takes more calories t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:40 PM
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Sure. There are lots of women who are dieting, going to the gym, and also going to therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:33 PM
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In no reality does a lower income equate to greater caloric purchasing power. Even if you can’t afford anything other than twinkies, you can afford fewer twinkies if you’re poorer and more twinkies if you’re wealthier. People just eat too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:31 PM
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What do you want to improve?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:29 PM
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The only chronic illnesses that cause weight gain are lipedema(basically your fat cells are benign tumors that you can’t get rid of) and Hasimotos (severe hypothyroidism, such that your metabolism is so slowed that eating enough to get all your micronutrient needs met is still a greater caloric intake than your caloric expenditure.) Every other condition that contibutes to weight gain just slightly lowers your expenditure, or makes you hungrier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:28 PM
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Dunno. Ask men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:22 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:21 PM
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Disagree. You can genuinely love each other, but if you’re not compatible in crucial ways, life is gonna kill that love and break you up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:16 PM
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Daily reminder that any studies that reference “pair bonding” were done on prairie voles and not human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:14 PM
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How are you “being used?”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:13 PM
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You can be socially anxious, just don’t show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:07 PM
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She's can't be 8. That's like 1 on 100 woman. If we restricted only among black women yes she's 1 in 100 black woman, but not with other ethnicities mixed. She's closer to a 1 in 20 women, which would be 7/10. Nah. She’s absolutely stunning. I don’t see how very many people could look 2 whole points better than her, if the scale is calibrated to match a normal bell curve
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:06 PM
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There’s a difference between “having a profession that requires you to be in a bikini and post on social media” and “having casual sex with different people specifically when you’re single.” You shouldn’t expect a partner to drop their whole career for you. You should expect faithfulness and monogamy from someone who agrees to it with you. Women act differently within relationships than they do outside of them. It’s the same way that men are socially permitted to have casual sex with many partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:52 PM
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The “reasonable amount” of make up is still a full face of foundation, eye liner and mascara, probably blush and highlighter, and eyebrow pencilling. It’s just made to look less assuming than more theatrical make up. The “Buttload of makeup” person probably has the same number of products on her face as the “reasonable amount” person. She just also has colorful hair, which people associate with lots of make up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:41 PM
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muscle is more dense* than fat… I definitely have not gained 3 lbs of muscle mass in a week. Maybe .1 lb at most
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:34 PM
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Because he’s not in control of anything, and he doesn’t believe in his own attractiveness, so why should any woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:32 PM
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Caffeine is a stimulant and a diuretic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:31 PM
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Gesundheit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:26 PM
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🤦‍♀️ Love how being introverted translates to “sitting in the corner and not speaking at all” to men here. Reminds me of how you say to fat acceptance influencers “you can lose weight by just eating less,” they’ll respond with “ So I have to starve myself just to be thin?!?!”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:21 PM
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They are definitely overrated. But if you look at their picture scale, you’ll notice that all individuals over a 7 have noticeable amounts of makeup on. It’s like, if you don’t have fake long eyelashes or painted on contours or super saturated lip-sticked lips, you’re not considered to be the most attractive, but all those things are false traits that don’t really occur in nature. Our perspectives have shifted because of how much we’re exposed to made-up individuals. I’m of the opinion that if s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:20 PM
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Why are you so fixated on how much you look at her? Just be normal. Make eye contact every once in a while. Do an activity that doesn’t leave room for constant conversation that you don’t feel comfortable having. And you don’t have to have long convos over text either; just pick your words carefully, and you’ll come off as “mysterious” instead of “creepy.” I swear men don’t know how to man ETA: being in introvert doesn’t mean you’re socially retarded. Just that you’re less energized by social in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:12 PM
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ITS A GREAT DAY TO BE FEMALE! Also I weighed myself this morning and realized I’ve gained 3 lbs in like a week of working out, but also I look thinner, so I think that’s a good thing. Maybe I’m just retaining water.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:08 PM
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But the only way to be higher than that is if you’re a celebrity and you also have a lot of makeup on your face
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:03 PM
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Idk, that sounds pretty normal. Penises get sensitive after orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:01 PM
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Idk man, one time I went to a party and this guy kept trying to get up behind me while I was dancing and when I told him I wasn’t interested and pointed to my wedding band, he got pissed and was getting progressively more aggressive. Luckily a group of women came and surrounded me and was like, “There you are! We were looking all over for you. We’re all going to the bathroom” and we left the dance floor. I was really grateful for that (even though I didn’t want to do line in the bathroom, either…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:58 PM
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Or just men who are quiet observers occupied with their own thoughts, who have high standards about who they let into their life ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:51 PM
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Who said anything about staring? Isn’t a principle of TRP to have an abundance mindset, so a guy that comes off as “aloof” and not signaling the absolute most interest constantly seen as more attractive? Y’all just gotta figure out how to capitalize on your traits
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:50 PM
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“Less physically strong than men” is not “weakness.” Not every woman is insecure and anxious. That’s an individual level issue, not a part of being female. (Other than, perhaps, being anxious for the safety of your children, which is a good thing because it helps to keep them safe. Whereas fathers encourage fun and slightly risky behavior. It’s a balance.) The hormone cycle does suck, ngl. But there are ways to mitigate the effects. Emotions are controllable with conscientious and practice, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:46 PM
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I find it to be quite nice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:29 PM
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What about the “mysterious” loner guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:28 PM
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Remain open to all social interaction. Worse comes to worst, you end up with no romantic or sexual connections, but a few new friends. Best case scenario, you make friends and a sexual/romantic connection
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:26 AM
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That’s fine for you. Other people can have fun alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:23 AM
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Like I replied to you before: if exposure to pleasure dulled your ability to feel it, good sex with the same individual over time would eventually become neutral, and n count wouldn’t make a difference. Fortunately for all human beings, that’s not what happens when we have regular sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:05 AM
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Well, that’s the thing. Sometimes one person wants to go out and the other doesn’t. Like in my marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:00 AM
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Chad Thundercock doesn’t care if a woman is virginal or a mega slut, because he’s not worried about being compared to other men. If he does want a low n woman, it’s gonna be for one of the other insecure/illogical reasons, most likely projected shame. The girl in the 2nd instance has climbed way up the hedonic ladder. Even if Chad made her cum every time, the pleasure she derives from having sex with him is still much less than if she had an n-count of 2. How do you figure? Back to the porn anal…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:34 AM
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Dancing and feeling sexy isn’t the same thing as “acting single.” I don’t think you’re understanding that people can go just to dance and have fun on their own, not to pick up other people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:43 AM
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People act differently when they’re single vs when they’re in monogamous relationships tho
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:41 AM
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Sex can be both for intimacy and pleasure, or just pleasure, for lots of individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:39 AM
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Realistically, a man that has had a couple partners and lots of sex is more likely to be pleasing to the woman who’s had a ton of sexual experience. But idk, the woman could be into his innocence or something. There are female virgin hunters in existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:36 AM
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Yes. They are full of shame and projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:31 AM
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Regardless of how many partners a woman has had, she knows whether she’s sexually satisfied or not. Personally, I much prefer knowing that my partner is the best out of many, rather than the okay-est out of a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:31 AM
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Oh man. I would’ve taken the youth pellet so fast
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:28 AM
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Some are things they have said directly, and some are things you can logically infer from what they’ll tell you. It’s not all men— there are some who also want one or few lifetime partners because they see sex as something sacred and intimate. But the men who have double standards or high n counts themselves and want low n women are definitely amongst the listed examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:24 AM
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I’m jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:17 AM
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I…. Do not get not wanting your partner to feel sexy and young. I guess you never hype your wife up at home, lest she start feeling too good about herself ? That’s not “inviting problems” if your partner is not intent on cheating in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:16 AM
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“I’m ashamed of my own n count/sexual behavior so I’m gonna project it onto women and have double standards” “I’m worried my dick/sexual performance won’t live up up to her previous partners’, so I want someone with few partners so she’ll be accepting of my bad/mediocre sexual performance.” “All men, including myself, are disgusting, and therefore if women have sex with men they are degraded and made dirty.” “I’ve fucked some very unattractive women out of desperation, so if women have had a sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:10 AM
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Did you have to go on HRT?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:54 AM
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Ya me too ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:53 AM
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Hopefully deep enough to not attract aminals
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:53 AM
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Definitely not. That’s r count
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:52 AM
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Nice try, copper 🤐🚓
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:25 AM
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That’s what I’m asking
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:22 AM
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Okay, but what about n count?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:11 AM
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Imagine if the resurrected people are only as capable of advertising the good or service as far as they understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:34 PM
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The progressive misspelling of misegengyst just tickles me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:33 PM
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Ja
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:53 PM
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That makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:25 PM
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I’m just wondering why a 23 yo would go to the trouble of sourcing paper maps
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:22 PM
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Digital maps are basically GPS
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:18 PM
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Just piping up to say it because a lot of people think it’s reliably reversible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:17 PM
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Like a paper map, or a digital map?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:15 PM
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I’m 26
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:14 PM
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That’s what I tell him. Often times he’ll pull up the GPS and then not listen to it because he thinks he knows a faster way and I’m just like 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:14 PM
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How do I know if they’re swingers or they’re just intent on purchasing the pineapples?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:07 PM
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He’s gen x
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:05 PM
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Keep in mind, not all vasectomies are successfully reversed. They are intended to be permanent contraception
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:05 PM
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Must be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:03 PM
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Are there others? I haven’t heard of them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:03 PM
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Depends what you look like. You can try posting to one of the ratings subs that offer advice for things like hairstyles and grooming. Then you either decide if you wanna be conventional or fulfill a niche, and then you work towards that. Most conventional men go to the gym and manipulate their diets to be lean and muscular. But if you wanted to look like a skater or an artist or a musician, you can get away with being skinnier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:02 PM
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Does anyone else’s partner make fun of them for not being able to get places without GPS, or is that just a generational gap thing between my husband and I?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:53 PM
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Are they in middle school dating some dumbass senior or what? That was the cringiest thing I’ve ever read
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:43 PM
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Or at least trying to make yourself want to have sex. Lots of women get themselves in the mood in preparation for their partner wanting sex, if they have mismatched libidos
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:32 PM
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Looksmaxx, personalitymaxx, profilemaxx, and then match with sluts on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:29 PM
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The symbol for swingers? Or do you mean something more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:28 PM
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Be attractive and find yourself a slut
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:27 PM
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Right… I think a lot of people neglect to talk about it until they’re relatively deep into a relationship, and then suddenly one partner wants to go out and the other is shocked and impermissive. Or they’ll meet while they’re out and then expect the other to not go out anymore after they commit to one another
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:16 PM
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We are thinking about trying it, but we’re also kind of lazy about chatting with people consistently, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:12 PM
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If both of you are okay with that restriction, great. Personally, I don’t go to clubs to meet people and get shitfaced. I might have one drink, enough to get tipsy, and just dance. I like to feel the energy of the crowd and the vibrations from the loud music and the moving lights. Makes me feel sexy and young and alive again… My husband doesn’t like it, so he doesn’t go.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:10 PM
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It depends on the individual. If your partner feels uncomfortable with you going out and one of the reasons is that you don’t handle your liquor well, this could be a useful conversation. Some people feel that dancing with others is cheating. I stopped doing that whenever I committed to exclusivity with my husband (although now that I think about it, we’ve never discussed it 🤔)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:01 PM
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One person asks the other out, and they get to know each other if they don’t already, and sometimes they have sex to see if it’s good or not, and if they’re into each other they agree to exclusivity and name their relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:27 PM
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This sounds like a hypothetical that I didn’t participate in, so I’m not going to continue to discuss it with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:24 PM
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Updoot for stellar and healthy communication
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:21 PM
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Telling your partner “if you go to the club, our relationship is over” is essentially the same as forbidding them to go to the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:19 PM
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Sometimes people go out and they get in over their heads with the alcohol, and end up in unsafe situations. If you set boundaries before they go, it’s not because you don’t trust your partner, it’s because you want them to pause to think about it, so they’re more likely to be safe. It’s also good to explicitly communicate what you’re okay with in the context of your relationship what you see as “cheating”), so that there’s no “I didn’t know you felt that way” and hurt feelings if somebody crosse…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:18 PM
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Or, perhaps, a woman who doesn’t go to the club because she doesn’t like it. If you meet a woman at the club and y’all started dating, idk why you’d try to keep her from doing the things she finds to be fun
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:15 PM
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Instead of “you can’t go to the club,” consider: “Why do you want to go to the club?” “Can I go with you?” “It’s okay if you want to dance alone, but I am not comfortable with you dancing with other men.” “Can we set a limit on how much you’re going to drink?” “Will you watch your drinks closely and stay with your friends?” “Will you call me if you need a ride?” “Where are you planning on going? Will you let me know if your plans change?” “Are you comfortable with sharing your location with me o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:11 PM
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Idk the answer to that. I don’t do that in spaces where I know people IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:05 PM
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I like my man. Talking with some of the users here makes me sort of hate other men sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:52 PM
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You mean like on Fetlife? Because it’s fun, and maybe hubby and I will meet a hot girl/swinger couple
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:52 PM
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That’s that “born with good bone structure, doesn’t work out too hard, and coasting on youth” bod
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:47 PM
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Do you have examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:44 PM
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They can’t afford them, but they take them anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:07 PM
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For sure. There are still people who believe men can’t even be raped
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:46 AM
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I am someone who thinks that enhancing one’s femininity or masculinity, respectively, makes people better and more comfortable in this world. I have one very masculine part-time profession (the military) and one very feminine profession (SAHM.) While I find that the military makes me speak louder and boss my juniors around and be assertive (which I hate), my Marines also trust me more than their male counterparts to be compassionate towards their issues, to have things that they need, and to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:20 AM
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False
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:52 AM
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27% are overweight, but how many are obese?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:49 AM
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I wonder if it’s just where that individual lives? Because I know if I called the police to report a male attacker/rapist, not only would I be taken seriously to get justice, the whole neighborhood would take up arms to find said male. I definitely lean more towards the “men can easily have their entire lives destroyed by accusations even if they’re unfounded” camp,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:43 AM
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The games people play seem utterly exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:49 AM
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Even if she did just want sex, there’s a portion of the male population who aren’t down with fucking taken women. It’d still be a better bet to not mention the boyfriend/husband if that was her intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:40 AM
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Good men are easy to please. If you find a man is not easy to please, either he is abusive, or you are a subpar girlfriend/wife, and you should carefully collect evidence to figure which of those it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:35 AM
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Why would she immediately say she isn’t single if she wanted more than to just compliment you? It’d be more strategic to just not mention it, if she did want more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:34 AM
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My husband just told me the commandant of the Marine Corps just resigned, and some fucking senator has somehow gotten the power to hold up 265 promotions because the USMC was funding travel expenses for female Marines to get abortions. Only 6.3% of Marines are female. The majority of them request separation whenever they get pregnant anyway, which means the ~$40,000 it costs to train them gets flushed down the toilet. No wonder why retention rates are so fucking low.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:02 AM
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Oh, I misread. Well, that makes sense. the point of getting married is to split up what is essentially 3 jobs (housework, childcare, and income-generation) into 1.5 jobs. And its more efficient to combine household tasks and certain expenses
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:55 AM
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I wish I only had 7 hours of housework to do a week as a SAHM
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:32 AM
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I wanna talk about these recommendations though https://imgur.com/a/6cmDpb4
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:30 AM
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I wanna talk about these recommendations though https://imgur.com/a/6cmDpb4
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:29 AM
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That’s less fun then causing drama tho
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:09 AM
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I tried to make pineapple fried rice, but it came out mushy and not fried
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:08 AM
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Blame your significant other so you can pull a Gone Girl
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:44 PM
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I’m angry. Not frustrated
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:42 PM
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Ain’t nothing but a heartache
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:40 PM
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Yeah, but what if you sell one and then something happens to your remaining one?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:38 PM
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Casual sex is okay, and it’s also okay if you’re a person who doesn’t want to have if, or if you’re a person who doesn’t want a partner who has it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:34 PM
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That actually looks like it would work really well, but that the body would reject it and make people sick, like implants already do to those who have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:32 PM
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It’s so nice when you think the meal you’ve made is shit but your SO actually really likes it and eats up the rest of it so you don’t have to suffer through it for lunch tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:57 PM
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The honeymoon phase is “my partner is perfect and I want to spend every minute with them.” Afterwards, it’s “my partner is imperfect, but I love them anyway” and you don’t want to be with them constantly, but often. If you don’t like major aspects of them or their behavior, and you rarely want to be around them, break up
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:47 PM
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Both genders do it and it’s foolish
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:44 PM
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Idk, I feel like we have two for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:40 PM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:36 PM
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If they’ve demonstrated that they are more capable, then sure. If they wanted to pay the male Marines in my unit that are running sub 18:00 5ks on their PFTs more than me, I’d be okay with that. But if they just automatically paid all males more than me because they are male and I am female, that’s some BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:23 PM
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What if he’s attractive in a non conventional way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:19 PM
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There’s just no reason to say “hey babe, I had a passing urge to do something you wouldn’t like, but don’t worry; I’d never do that.” That would arouse completely unnecessary suspicion. I can just gather the data I was looking for by asking him in a different way and reading the responses I got on this thread. Either way, nothing is going to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:30 PM
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That doesn’t make her right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:25 PM
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If they’re working less, then sure. Which is often what happens when women take time off to have babies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:23 PM
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Threesomes, and I guess just wanting your life partner to know about all aspects of you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:23 PM
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I know that women get tired of hearing of men’s sexual attraction to them all the time, so I was wondering if it was the same or different with men, since they get complimented less. This is good to know
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:21 PM
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Cheating is only ever the fault of the person who committed to emotional and/or sexual exclusivity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:17 PM
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So you’d be suspicious that she actually thinks you’re ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:16 PM
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Lol. I feel like if someone has to check the laws before a social interaction, they should probably just stay home 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:15 PM
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Well, she wouldn’t know if you are or aren’t single; it’s just that she’s not single and isn’t interested in anything else besides complimenting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:05 PM
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Why? What’s the point of saying specifically that, as opposed to asking him how he would want to be complimented?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:04 PM
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I don’t have anything to hide. He’s not deluding himself into thinking I’m not ever gonna find any other men except for him to be attractive. I don’t get all pissy when he’s attracted to other women. He has eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:55 PM
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They could fix it if they just raised their standards. But many of them won’t cuz they have low self esteem and think that’s what they deserve, or have such low opinions of women in general that they don’t believe any of them will ever treat them right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:51 PM
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So non-bodily compliments, or none at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:50 PM
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Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:49 PM
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I’ll probably ask him the best way that he would like to be complimented at the gym. But he’s also one datum point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:28 PM
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I think you’re projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:24 PM
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I’m not a cheater. Idk how many times I have to tell you, I’m legit just curious about the hypothetical. I don’t think you should ever date anybody if you can’t deal with them being attracted to other people ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:22 PM
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I see. Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:20 PM
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Lol! I’d understand
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:20 PM
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What exactly has begun? Again, expecting a partner not to flirt with others is a reasonable expectation. Expecting them not to find anyone else attractive ever is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:19 PM
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I’ve been hit on lots, in ways that vary in uncomfortable-ness. I’m not in the business of hitting on others anymore, but I am curious what men find to be creepy, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:18 PM
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We’ve been together for 7.5 years now, actually. I don’t see an issue with a wandering eye. It’s not gonna turn into wandering genitals
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:15 PM
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Idk, I hear all the time that men don’t often get compliments and when they do, they really cherish them, which I find kinda adorable lol. But it’s just a thought experiment either way, and I’m more curious about where the line is for sexual harassment for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:14 PM
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I said multiple times that I’m not gonna say anything to him. Even in the thought experiment it’s “you’re attractive but I’m taken” and not “you’re attractive; let’s fuck.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:12 PM
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Is that not the only thing literally anyone can claim? “Hasn’t cheated and presently isn’t?” And maybe “does not intend to because they feel very strongly about the immorality of cheating?”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:08 PM
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“Poor lad,” because he has female partner who doesn’t cheat and also has a functional sex drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:04 PM
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I see
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:03 PM
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Me neither. I have self-control… but I am gonna look.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:02 PM
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You’re really gonna pretend that people go blind when they get into a relationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:00 PM
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Why? There’s not a person in the world that doesn’t notice attractive people just because they’re in a relationship. There’s no harm in just looking
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:58 PM
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Obviously it’s not okay for someone who’s taken to do that, but what if she said something else, like “You’re very attractive?” Would you feel harassed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:57 PM
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No; that’d be crossing the line into disrespecting an SO. I’d never actually do that. Just gonna keep my mouth shut and my eyes open, if you know what I’m saying
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:55 PM
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Interesting and convenient. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:52 PM
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I mean, I wouldn’t. But I’m a lil obsessed with the thought experiment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:46 PM
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Q4M: Would you feel sexually harassed if a random woman came up to you at the gym and said she thinks you’re very attractive, but she doesn’t want anything more with you because she’s not single? How do you make “you’re sexy af” not creepy, hypothetically ? Or is it pointless to say anything at all? I’m sperging out here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:44 PM
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The point is that not all men think this way. There are plenty of men who do not care. So why should the women who want to have sex have it with those that feel like it degrades their value, as opposed to those that don’t think so? I’m asking you to put yourself in women’s shoes. I don’t think this attitude should be rewarded with sex. Any man who thinks of sex and women like this should be boycotted such that they become sexless. That’s certainly what I did, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:32 PM
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How long should she wait to confidently believe that a relationship with you is a permanent thing? Until you’re married for several years?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:27 AM
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I would love to ask somebody who’s slept with you, especially after you’ve told her how you feel about it. What I’m really trying to get you to do is put yourself in a woman’a shoes, and imagine hearing that from a dude. Like if he’s saying, he brings down your value, you would think there’s something wrong with him, wouldn’t you? Would that not make you less inclined to sleep with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:25 AM
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Pregnancy only happens in female bodies, though. So even if a man contributes his half a cell to a pregnancy, the laws surrounding abortion only apply to her body. It’s a very biologically unilateral process. Men can buy sex from other men. Also, the government would like to criminalize selling sex, but there’s that pesky issue with trafficking and abuse victims not being able to get help or justice. That’s why they’ve decriminalized selling, but not buying. They think they can make it riskier t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:22 AM
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So why would any woman want to have sex with you if doing so lowers her value? You’d make her worse off, according to your own beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:12 AM
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But why would any woman decide to sleep with you? If you lower her value? I assume you want sex with any romantic partner you might have, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:06 AM
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I mean, obviously they don’t have to. But I’m assuming you want a romantic partner, and for that romantic partner to have sex with you, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:05 AM
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Q4M who think each new sexual partner lowers a woman’s RMV: if this is true, why should any woman sleep with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:54 AM
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That must be it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:49 AM
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Yes, I get women will have "casual sex." But my point is that we are not the same as you claim we are. Guys will have sex with almost anyone, even if they find you slightly unattractive. They don't need to go to a bar. They don't need to know your name, get a drink, talk, or anything. They just want flat out sex. My point was that we are wired differently. So again, what does men having low standards have to do with it being less socially acceptable for women to have sex with who they want? Beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:48 AM
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What’s really blowing my mind is it’s not like the law has changed from it being legal to purchase sex to it being illegal; the only thing that’s changed is that they’ve decriminalized selling sex so that people can get help when they need it more easily. And for some reason, they think that it’s about the gender of the people buying the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:26 AM
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I don’t, and I’m married. I said it before, I don’t care what your preferences are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:21 AM
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You are being ignorant to reality here. If an average lookimb guy walks up to 100 women and asks to have sex, none would have any with him. Even if they are "just horny." What are you on about? People have casual sex all the time. That doesn’t necessitate going about getting it in super awkward ways. Most of the time when women want a quick fuck, they go out to a club or just tinder up a man real quick. you can’t seriously be arguing that because the likelihood of a man getting sex by walking up…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:14 AM
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Right, but they have you sign a contract before you go off to boot camp. And if you quit in the middle of training, they take like months to separate you, and you live in limbo for all that time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:56 AM
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You’re making up hypotheticals and then applying them to all women. It’s real weird
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:55 AM
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How could any laws involving pregnancy be gender neutral? Only females can get pregnant. Both men and women can (as in, are capable of doing, not as in are legally permitted to) sell and purchase sex; the law in question avoids gendered language so that it’s clear that neither gender is allowed to purchase sex, and that neither gender is criminalized for selling. Just because men want to do the illegal thing more than women do doesn’t make the law not gender neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:53 AM
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If it “doesn’t fit” you’re pretty much screwed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:31 AM
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I already explained why saying “it’s easier for women” is not a logical reason why women should be considered less valuable for having sex with all the partners they desire. Try again. After all, it's women who have exclaimed that sex is more emotional and about connection for them, while for guys its highly visual and physical. Women aren’t monoliths, and the ones that have spoken to you about this don’t speak for all of us. Some women don’t need to have an emotional connection before having se…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:10 AM
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Dude, are you dense? The person I was replying to specifically asked for a citation for underground sex trafficking. The story I told was of me nearly getting underground sex trafficked. The dude got investigated and arrested for running a sex trafficking ring. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:59 AM
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The laws aren’t “targeting men,” they’re targeting prostitution, and just not prosecuting sellers of sex anymore, which just happen to be majority female. All these other analogies don’t matter. The reason why men are “disproportionately affected” by prostitution being illegal is because they are the ones making the personal choice to break the law that has existed before selling sex got decriminalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:55 AM
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So… because on average men’s standards are lower than women’s, women shouldn’t get to enjoy sex with as many people as they individually desire, the same way men are permitted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:50 AM
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It doesn’t fucking matter either way, with the drug thing. The government went from not allowing anyone to sell or purchase sex To not allowing anyone to purchase sex, and not punishing sellers of sex. They are not specifically targeting men because they are men, they are targeting people who are purchasing sex, and the ones who purchase sex just happen to be men. They are literally doing something that has always been illegal, so why should they not be punished just because selling sex is now d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:48 AM
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The first sentence of the article you linked literally says “sentencingdisparity.” You know why it specifies “sentencing”? Because the laws are written to be neutral and enforced in a discriminatory way, such that skin color dictates whether or not people will be punished for doing the same crime. In the case of prostitution, men are the ones who are actually doing the illegal thing more often than women. So it’s not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:31 AM
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Lately I’ve been feeling the urge to get another tattoo, but I’m worried I’ll get it and then not live up to it’s meaning… maybe I should order temporary ones just to soothe the impulse
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:27 AM
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And why is it different if a man wants to enjoy sex with lots of different people vs a woman who wants to enjoy sex with lots of different people? Why are women locks and men keys, in your metaphor?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:25 AM
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One person doesn’t come to mind, but I can name women in my life that exhibit feminine traits that I I would like to emulate. Kindness, selflessness, warmth, patience, softness, being a care taker, well mannered, a good mother, looking pretty and put together all the time…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:19 AM
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Seems to me like common sense would be that people like sex and having it with different partners is acceptable for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:11 AM
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Like I said, I don’t care what your preference is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:05 AM
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The laws for drugs are race neutral. Non-white people have been incarcerated for drugs more frequently than white people not because they use/sell drugs more frequently than white people, but because the law was unfairly enforced. If men get prosecuted for soliciting prostitution more frequently than women do, it’s not because the law isn’t gender neutral, and it’s not because it’s being unfairly enforced. It’s because men are soliciting prostitutes more frequently than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:03 AM
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The problem isn’t with me; it’s with your heartless self. Go whine to someone else; I HATE seeing your name pop up on here cuz I know it’s gonna be nothing but useless drivel
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:57 AM
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Historically, any participation in prostitution was illegal, buying or selling. They have only recently decriminalized selling sex, so that trafficking and abuse victims can get help. It remains illegal to purchase sex, for both men and women this is not about gender
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:55 AM
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The government wants to get rid of all prostitution in general It’s been historically illegal to engage in prostitution, buying or selling. It recently decriminalized selling sex because of trafficking victims Purchasing it has remained illegal. Why are we here acting like the government has done something to PURPOSEFULLY TARGET MALES SPECIFICALLY? Make it make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:51 AM
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The law targets solicitors of prostitution, not men. Who’s fault is it if it’s mostly men that are making the individual, personal choice to solicit prostitutes? Not the government’s. And I said this to another person: it’s always been illegal to solicit prostitution. The only thing that’s changed is that now it’s not illegal to sell sex. If anything, men should be celebrating the fact that they have more freedoms: they can sell their own bodies now, if they want. This conversation is utterly ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:45 AM
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You’re not making any points
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:39 AM
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The alimony laws didn’t need reform because they were disproportionately affecting male payers. They needed reform because it’s ridiculous for one adult to financially support another adult for the rest of their lives just because they were married at one point but aren’t anymore. Like you do realize that there’s nothing legally stopping men from having wealthier wives and collecting alimony in the event of divorce? And that men don’t need to solicit prostitutes? The only thing that’s changed fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:35 AM
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The “it’s easy so let’s shame women for it” argument is illogical and I’m really tired of it. “It’s easier for men to obtain voluntary sterilization procedures than it is for women. All men who have had vasectomies are STANDARD-LESS, DIRTY, LOW VALUE, SKANKS!” Like, has it never occurred to you that some women are just horny? So if sex is easy to get, why the hell wouldn’t they be having sex? I don’t care if you don’t want to date high n women, but ffs, come up with a sensical argument as to why…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:26 AM
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Actually the law is gender and sex-neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:17 AM
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I don’t know if you know this, but soliciting prostitution has been illegal. They’re just trying to make it so that people (of either gender) can now get help and justice more easily IF they need it. It doesn’t matter that men are the majority of the people paying for sex. Say it with me now.. “it doesn’t matter if…”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:16 AM
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The alimony laws were also gender neutral. It doesn’t matter if men are the majority of the people buying sex or the majority of people who have stay-at-home spouses. If enforced properly, they are gender neutral. The government doesn’t want prostitution to happen. So it’s leaving buying sex illegal, and decriminalizing selling in attempt to reduce human trafficking and make justice more accessible to abuse victims. Gender neutral. The government didn’t want divorced people being dependent on we…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:13 AM
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Oh, i see what you’re saying… decriminalizing sellers still isn’t sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:59 AM
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Both trafficking in persons and purchasing sex are illegal. They would keep selling sex illegal too if it didn’t make it hard for victims to get help. I’ll be honest I didn’t read your whole comment before beginning to type but it’s late and I’m tired so I’m pretty done with this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:55 AM
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There’s a lot of documentaries about modern sex trafficking. I would recommend some to you but I can’t get past the previews without being triggered. Think about the private islands and child trafficking rings. I almost got sex trafficked myself. A wealthy stranger flew me to another country and was gonna nab my naïve, 18 yo self from the airport… luckily the customs officers stopped me when I didn’t know the name of the hotel I was supposed to be staying at and sent me home. (Though I was might…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:53 AM
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They’re not saying sellers are “always” victims, but they’re removing the punishment from all sellers in attempt to make it easier for trafficked/abused people to escape or seek justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:47 AM
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It doesn’t ruin the argument at all. There are definitely laws that people enforce against certain races while letting other races off the hook. But hypothetically, if they were enforced fairly, the laws would be fair. Like, people spoke out about how black people were being incarcerated for weed and not white people, and now we’ve rolled back weed laws because we realized they’re stupid and unnecessary (once the govt figured out how to capitalize on weed sales, of course.) So hypothetically, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:43 AM
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The spirit of the law here isn’t “let’s punish men for buying sex” it’s “let’s stop people from engaging in prostitution but in a way that still allows trafficked people to seek help.” (however effective or ineffective that may be. I’m leaning towards incredibly ineffective, but they’re trying.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:30 AM
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Okay, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:26 AM
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That is a non-gender neutral and discriminatory law
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:25 AM
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I honestly believe this "trafficked" shit is a hysterical bogeyman. We aren't in the 70's with "pimps and ho's" on 42nd street, but even if that is some rampant problem amongst sex workers in the USA, why not just go after the TRAFFICKERS then? Trafficking definitely still happens and is definitely a huge issue. Nowadays it’s just done more underground. People are disappeared and taken to remote locations to be purchased and abused by the ultra wealthy, distopian-tv-show-style. They’re trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:23 AM
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That would be unconstitutional because it would infringe on the right to religious freedom We don’t have a constitutional right to purchase sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:16 AM
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You’re not wrong. But we havent exactly put the brightest crayons in the box into legislative seats, have we? Do you have any solutions, by chance? (Not saying this as a rebuttal; im just curious if you have any clever ideas how to fix the issue)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:12 AM
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They are, by definition of the word, orientation-neutral, yes. However, they are pointless, and they were actually ruled to be unconstitutional in Lawrence v. Texas in 2003. It is definitely discriminatory if only gay anal-sex-havers are being arrested for having anal sex, and not straight anal-sex-havers. Just like it would be discriminatory if women weren’t being punished for buying sex, but men were. It’s just that fewer women want to buy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:09 AM
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Nobody is saying that women are being discriminated against via disparate impact as a result of decriminalizing the selling of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:05 AM
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I mean they’re pointless (who cares whether people take it in the ass?), but they’re orientation-neutral too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:04 AM
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Sex and gender identity are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:03 AM
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Yes. However, there are more effective laws and social system that could be implemented to reduce homelessness, instead of just making it more difficult for homeless people to find shelter. Like, sending tax dollars to homeless shelters and trying to improve societal mental health and cracking down on drugs and gambling, and… I suppose the argument could be made that we should be tackling the increasing issues with societal loneliness, but then again, there’s always going to be people who want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:02 AM
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Yes. You can be gay without having anal sex, and straight people have anal sex too. Edited to add: Although, there’s no good reason why anyone should care whether people want to take it up their poop shoots
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:52 AM
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That’s a more complicated issue, because while certain races face more obstacles to getting IDs, we also have an issue with voter fraud. The solution there isn’t to let people vote without ID, it’s to make getting IDs more accessible to those who need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:50 AM
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The reason why they’re decriminalizing the sellers is because they don’t want to punish people that are being trafficked or abused. It’s like giving amnesty to underage college students who almost die from alcohol poisoning. Law makers are hoping to reduce the demand for prostitution through making it riskier for solicitors, therefore those who are being trafficked will be less profitable to their traffickers, and hypothetically fewer people will be trafficked. It’s not because they hate men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:48 AM
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A disparate impact policy or rule is one that seems neutral but has a negative impact on a specific protected class of persons. Didn’t know men who solicit prostitution were a protected class
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:35 AM
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A gender neutral law prohibiting voting would be that nobody with any X chromosomes are permitted to vote. We would call that “dictatorship.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:33 AM
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Because you and everybody else knows damn well that the VAST MAJRORITY of sellers are women and the VAST MAJORITY of buyers are men. So, what you’re saying is… men are particularly likely to engage in something made illegal… and that’s misandristic how exactly? “Wah wah we can’t do this thing that society deems immoral enough to outlaw! Why do you HATE MEN?!?!”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:31 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:22 AM
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I’m not gaslighting you. The law is literally gender neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:20 AM
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Actually, this is a gender neutral law. It’s equally illegal for women to buy sex from men. Therefore, it’s not misandristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:15 AM
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How is anyone going to pay for a mortgage, car loans and associated expenses, all the different kinds of insurances adults need, food, clothing, cell phone bills, taxes, everything needed for a couple of kids… on 50k a year? That’s just not it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:04 AM
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$50k a year is certainly not good money. $96k would be comfortable for a single person; certainly not for a family. I don’t know what she wants. We don’t talk. All I know about her is what I hear from my husband, and he’s not gonna ask her about that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:41 PM
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Women have wider support nets and people generally treat them kinder. It's not as big of an issue. Idk, when I couldn’t get a boyfriend in high school, I was still lonely. Even when I had friends. I wanted someone special to cuddle and with whom to have sex and hang out and to do romantic things. I never said above average men were treated like this. Perfect men are given everything a woman has to offer. Lesser men get less. Lesser men accept less and then it reinforces to their women that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:36 PM
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That makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:19 PM
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Nope. I’ve dealt with having to backtrack and explain and make the conversation super meta with a childhood abuser for years of my life, and I’m not interested in doing that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:16 PM
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Then men would die alone. Nah. Women get lonely too Now more than ever, women are more than happy to be single than suffer a relationship with a suboptimal man. And that bar is just creeping higher and higher. Optimal men don’t allow themselves to be treated poorly. Women are giving men shit tests and they’re not passing and they’re turned off, and it’s this vicious cycle that men are refusing to break out of, because they think sexless marriages are just normal. that there’s no other option, li…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:12 PM
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I’m a little frustrated with this conversation, so I think instead of having to explain all of this to you, I’m just going to exit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:52 PM
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They should care, because having a happy husband makes wives’ lives better. But they’re often not willing to do the things that make their husbands happy. That’s why the divorce rate is so high. I keep saying, if men just raised their standards and left all the women that treated them poorly, women would have to step it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:51 PM
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I’m not sure you understand natural selection
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:49 PM
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The majority are probably getting less sex than they want, because women’s sex drives are just lower on average than men’s are. But I think it’s a stretch to say that all average men are constantly being denied by their wives when they initiate
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:36 PM
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I mean, maybe you’d just be an attractive woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:32 PM
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So you’re asserting that all average men are either single or have deadbedrooms? Not a single average man’s wife actually regularly fucks him?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:31 PM
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My husband doesn’t care about my sexual history because he’s not an insecure, misogynistic loser who worries that can’t please me in bed. He knows I’m not thinking about anyone else because he’s the best partner I’ve ever had, and that I’m unlikely to do better. Unless you meant “fuck around” as in cheating, which I would never do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:30 PM
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Actually, it does. Many genes are switched off or on by the environment; it’s called “epigenetics.” So like, if you have lots of money and live a cushy life, you can control a lot more of these genetic triggers than you could if you were broke. For example, stress, poor nutrition, and chemical pollution are all contributing risk factors to cancer. It is inherently less stressful to be financially comfortable than it is to be poor. You can afford better quality food and to live in a less polluted…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:25 PM
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Big disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:13 PM
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Opiate$, huh? I smell an opportunity 🤔 The universe stays blessing me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:11 PM
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As if these things are comparable... one thing is just about some people calling you shallow while you can easily find someone who doesn't mind "dating down" the other is literally about almost no man even having that opportunity. Like I said, there are plenty of high earning career women that don’t mind having a lower earning spouse. They just might have higher standards in other categories, so you gotta maxx out on those, you know? Be fit, charismatic, fun, good in bed, useful in some other wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:07 PM
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Bruh. There are better women out there. It’s way better to be single than to put up with a shitty relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:51 PM
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Famous people aren’t really that much more attractive than gen pop people. It’s just that they have a fame halo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:48 PM
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Those things are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:47 PM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:46 PM
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I often wonder if it’s not uncommon for people to go through hormonal phases that are like mini-puberties… lots of women say their boobs started randomly growing again in their 20s, for example. My husband is just starting to sprout chest hairs at 51 years old. The human body is weird
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:46 PM
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... could you define"feel loved"? No, I cannot. Not in a way that you would ever understand, worko
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:44 PM
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Wealth isn’t just money, it’s a sign that somebody succeeded. They had something that put them ahead of their peers. Wealth also means a secure life, insulated from stressors, and the ability to raise your kids healthily and with certain advantages which helps to assure that they are successful as well. Successful people make the babies -> the babies thrive and grow out to be successful adults -> they make more success babies… repeat ad Infinitum. Like I said, without women being sexually select…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:43 PM
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The median annual wage for archivists, curators, and museum workers was $50,120 in May 2021. The median wage is the wage at which half the workers in an occupation earned more than that amount and half earned less. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $30,450, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $96,500. https://www.bls.gov/ooh/education-training-and-library/curators-museum-technicians-and-conservators.htm#:~:text=museums%20is%20helpful.-,Pay,was%20%2450%2C120%20in%20May%202021. I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:36 PM
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I am a SAHM. That’s the lifestyle I wanted, and that’s the lifestyle my husband chose to give me. Idk what kind of hours a person working at a museum puts in, but if the pay isn’t great, and my stepdaughter wants kids some day? She’s just gonna be paying all her income to send her kids to daycare to be raised by someone else, and her family’s QOL will be dictated by her husband’s income. Sure, she can get by with living in a small house in not-the-best or the safest of neighborhoods, in the not-…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:31 PM
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It’s not. If neither gender wanted the best partner they could get, the human genome would go to shit. It should be a matter of pride to only want a great life partner for yourself and parent for your children. Anyone else who doesn’t has low self esteem and, consequently, low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:16 PM
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That is a bonus
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:11 PM
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Idk why they deny it. It’s not a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:10 PM
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Why did my remaining wisdom tooth suddenly decide to erupt 26 years into my life
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:07 PM
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Oh, you were speaking hypothetically. That wouldn’t fly with me. I would tell him either to be honest with me about why, or he should be seeing some kind of doctor about his sudden change in libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:06 PM
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That happens to me often. How silly it is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:04 PM
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Nobody is forcing any man to be a provider to a SAHM. The reason why men do it is because they value the work their wives do at home: managing the household, so that their husbands can come home from work and simply relax, and taking care of their children. This is simply another way of splitting the responsibilities, and Hubby would still have chosen to have the job that he does regardless of whether his wives wanted that in a partner— don’t forget, he benefits from being wealthy too. Nobody is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:00 PM
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Don’t let the intrusive thoughts win
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:48 PM
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Yes. His is very aesthetic, and it’s attached to an aesthetic person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:47 PM
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I feel like that’s a discussion you have with the person when you start dating them, if you feel strongly about it. You should ask them whether they want to continue to perform and engage in that sort of thing. Most famous people aren’t gonna give these sort of opportunities up in the middle of their careers…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:45 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:43 PM
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I’m half-disagreeing with OP though. He’s saying the “men who care make for bad partners” thing is c*pe, essentially. It’s not cope. That’s why you should be slutty and proud
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:28 PM
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I think I would feel hurt, but not necessarily un-loved… I guess it would depend upon the reason why he wouldn’t have sex with me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:25 PM
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I mean… what does one really expect if you partner up with a performer?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:17 PM
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I’ve found that YMCAs have all the traditional gym equipment, but also some functional fitness gear (ankle weights, resistance bands, yoga balls, jump ropes, kettle bells, plyo boxes, etc.). They also typically have childcare, pools, saunas, and group fitness classes. Really great value for the price.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:15 PM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:12 PM
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Never lie about your n count, cuz you dont want to end up with the type of man who would reject you for yours
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:06 PM
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It sounds like it was just a performance
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:02 PM
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Nothing is wrong with me. Probably because my female ancestors were hypergamous, instead of settling for inferior schmucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:58 PM
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I think that’s probably because women are conditioned their whole life to avoid being “shallow,” and told that love is so much more important than looks or money… it can be hard to realize, down the road, that you don’t have to settle for one or the other— you can simply have all three with the right partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:57 PM
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How is being part of your children’s life during the most important times a privilege ? Your kids are only little once. Some things are more valuable than money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:48 PM
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I’d pick the third from left
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:47 PM
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Hypergamy is good for the human race. Somebody’s gotta gatekeep the reproduction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:42 PM
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I thought he already did know this from our conversations about my dating history. I was confused by this being like, news to him
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:42 PM
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That’s what I’m sayin’
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:40 PM
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Men need sex to feel loved. True or false?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:40 PM
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Social media is bad. Good on you for not falling into that abyss
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:34 PM
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🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:27 PM
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Today hubby and I were driving home from the gym, and he had me read the email his daughter had excitedly forwarded him. It was instructions from the museum she had been trying to volunteer at, since she thinks she’d like to work in archeological museums some day. I flippantly remarked that she’d better marry a rich man. Hubby gave me a sideways look and said I was being “mercenary.” I tried to explain that like, if you want a certain QOL and a low-paying job that you actually like, that’s what’…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:20 PM
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I would order them 3.04/7.73, then 4.76, then the highest one (forget his score)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:08 PM
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Mostly looks like skin and photo quality, honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:05 PM
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Aw yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:59 PM
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Oh, dyspraxia
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:57 PM
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Well, that’s an ego booster :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:53 PM
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Can you be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:48 PM
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Not if I wear TURTLENECKS
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:39 PM
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Simple. Some young women are more mature than their age mates and therefore find older men’s heightened maturity attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:37 PM
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Can you link one? I’d love that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:34 PM
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The motherhood gap is the cost of being around for your children in the ways that they need you. It’s a privilege, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:33 PM
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Too late. We have already given the liberty. No takesy backsies
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:35 PM
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Oh! I was looking for that emote
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:34 PM
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I didn’t say it’s based on lust. I just have the same feeling of lust I felt when I first met him. I think both love and lust are important, otherwise you’re gonna end up with a deadbedroom, and somebody’s gonna end up feeling unloved or cheating or both
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:24 PM
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🤝Howdy do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:21 PM
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Erectile dysfunction? Or like, you can’t use your legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:20 PM
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Dunno. You wanted liberty
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:14 PM
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Yes! I feel like an alien trying to be a human
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:12 PM
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Idk, I liked to fuck on the first date, and I’m still full of lust for my husband 7.5 years later 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:11 PM
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Or maybe she was horny and isnt inhibited by what men think
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:09 PM
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Be free
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:08 PM
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I figure, we don’t have enough info to answer, right? And lots of men are bad in bed, So what’s the harm if he works on that while he figures out what else it might be?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:08 PM
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Damnit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:06 PM
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Nah. Realtor was on some shady shit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:54 PM
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Maybe he’s fun and good in bed and has lots of money (Not mine tho; he hates dancing. We met in a bookstore)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:32 PM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:30 PM
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Probably bad in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:28 PM
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That’s a recipe for a break up or divorce. Women love to shout “break up! You deserve better!” At the first sign of trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:22 PM
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Just been seeing a lot of “too skinny” comments lately on athletic, normal-looking women’s photos
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:22 PM
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“We met online and in person at the same time”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:21 PM
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Do men not like lean women anymore? Is that falling out of fashion again? :(
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:14 PM
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“I like your tats. Where’d you get them done?”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:13 PM
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Lol probably not. But it would be funny if it was
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:13 PM
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Gotta buy my ticket
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:02 PM
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There’s a guy at my gym with a little Chris Bumstead mustache thing going on and i think im really into it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:42 PM
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Raising children into well-adjusted adults and supporting the men who are working is doing “nothing at all?” Okay. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:05 AM
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You wrote like three paragraphs without actually defining what’s wrong with staying home with your kids and keeping house while your partner provides
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:03 AM
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Bubble gut is a no no
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:58 AM
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The cooking is the fun part! It’s the cleanup that sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:56 AM
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Me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:54 AM
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I mean, an adult is an adult. And if an 18 yo is into older men, it’s not “forced,” so I don’t see an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:53 AM
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That’s over 2k a month. Slumming it, yes, but liveable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:28 AM
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True :/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:56 AM
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4 is the limit, right? https://www.reddit.com/r/QOVESStudio/comments/14s7b2e/how_chiseled_is_too_chiseled_which_face_looks_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:55 AM
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Nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:50 AM
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Omg noo 😭 I’d be willing to be that a large portion of those replies were bots and men with feeder fetishes, though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:50 AM
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This is true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:47 AM
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“They” lied. Money matters to most women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:40 AM
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Well, I don’t suppose it would cost exactly twice the amount to exist as a married couple as it does a single person, but it sure wouldn’t be a bad thing to have a little spare income from a partner who makes at least as much as you, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:24 AM
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I think ears are okay for most men. I’m okay with navel piercings too… but anything else is a no-no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:18 AM
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I mean, y’all had it made. If it were me, I’d have stopped at the right to vote and earn property. Yes! Please don’t make me pull out the pig woman experiment P-pig woman experiment? 🫣
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:15 AM
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Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:09 AM
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That’s exactly what I’ve found to be true ime
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:27 AM
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Based and HVWpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:18 AM
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The former Actually, more like “jewl-ree”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:16 AM
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<image> Pack it up, boys
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:15 AM
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Well then you definitely do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:14 AM
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At least you can correct a dog when they’ve been bad. Yelling at cats just gives them anxiety and then they’re even bigger shitbags
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:13 AM
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I don’t think so. There are lots of men that don’t care. And honestly, I wouldn’t mind like, soft prostitute utilization in a man’s sexual history, like sugar dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:11 AM
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Idk. I’ve always sort of felt like a dude who’s really grateful to be in a female body. I’d just have to go to work and be a provider. I think it’d be much easier to manage certain emotions without all the estrogen and progesterone, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:03 AM
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If I magically flipped sexes, I’m assuming my femininity would be converted to masculinity, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:53 AM
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I think most men do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:52 AM
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I’m probably like a 6.5-7.5, so id assume I’d be in that ballpark as a man too. I don’t think it’d be as easy to seduce a woman, please her in bed, and secure her commitment, but I would learn fast enough, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:51 AM
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🙈
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:48 AM
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Tasteful tats would be fine. Male friends would be okay as long as they’re not obvious or known orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:47 AM
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I don’t think it’d be very hard. I’m an attractive woman, so I think I’d be an attractive man too. And there are lots of women out there that like and want casual sex. I’d learn how to get good at seducing women and then how to be good in bed as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:46 AM
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Yeah, Id just want her to be employed and like, not dependent on her parents before getting married. I’d be the provider as a man. Idrc if my partner has had lots of casual sex as long as s/he was careful about not catching STDs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:44 AM
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Not all of these are make-it-or-break it, but someone would have to have most of them. I am fit and attractive, so I think I would be as a man too. I have no heritable diseases or disabilities. I would make sure to have a good, stable way of making money so that I could provide a comfortable life for my family. I’d be an attentive father, and an empathetic and helpful co-parent, and I’d get a vasectomy when we were done having kids so my wife wouldn’t have to worry about BC or get sterilized her…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:42 AM
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What? Nothing about this is a “gotcha.” This is my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:29 AM
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I would still have a reasonable amount of casual sex until I found a suitable wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:28 AM
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Nah, cats are selfish, untrainable, anti-social assholes that destroy your house and give you mixed signals
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:27 AM
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Eh. I could pretend to be Christian well enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:26 AM
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RIP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:12 AM
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If I was a man, these would be my standards for a wife: 20-25 years old is a healthy weight, exercises consistently, eats healthfully, has a healthy relationship with food wants 1-2 children and to be a SAHM makes $25-50k a year before marriage responsible with money and has zero to minimal debt is somewhat educated (if not at a formal college, then through other means), is intelligent, and enjoys continual learning has a similar sense of humor similar political views and views on parenting not …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:07 AM
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It’s okay to call gold diggers gold diggers. The best explanation I’ve heard from a woman who wanted her partner to make equal or more money than she did was that once she had kids, it was statistically likely that she’d miss work for a certain amount of time during pregnancy/delivery/postpartum recovery, and to pick up the kids when sick or if there’s an emergency. Or, she might decide, eventually, that she wanted to be a SAHM. So she didn’t want to take a QOL cut if she had to be financially f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:40 AM
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It’s probably that a large percentage of women set their height filters for like, 6ft and up, not that the majority of them are specifically looking for 6’5 men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:35 AM
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My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, And they’re like, “Why’d you lie about the milkshakes? 🙁”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:19 PM
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Imagine writing paragraphs about a divorced college drop out with multiple kids
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:17 PM
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Ask her why she’s sexually harassing my man and ask him if he’s okay
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:12 PM
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Are you having a stroke?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:02 PM
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What it boils down to is, people here ask “why is it okay for women to prefer non-virgin men, but not okay for men to prefer virgin women?” And the answer is because virgin-hunters often want virgins for harmful, creepy, or predatory reasons, and women just want experienced men because they want good sex and don’t feel like teaching virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:51 PM
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$3000
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:55 PM
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He already does, but if it suddenly got smaller… idk, $30k? I guess it depends how much smaller. An inch, I could live with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:55 PM
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I’m not minimizing anything. Not getting sex and being judged is literally just a less significant than abuse and physical harm
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:51 PM
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This is the content I came here to read 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:42 PM
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I’m not the one pretending not to be a virgin to avoid creepy men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:42 PM
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I would totally call my family members to come take care of us if they didn’t live 6 hours away and all have school or jobs… not sure if any of Hubby’s friends would be willing or able to care our family when sick (they’ve got kids at home too,) but he hasn’t asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:41 PM
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Uh huh. It’s not like I can take my spouse’s temperature, or notice how often he coughs, sneezes, blows his nose, sprints to the bathroom to have diarrhea or vomit, and compare that to what I’m experiencing or anything objective like that. No, that would be a superpower!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:03 PM
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You’re completely missing the point of the analogy, which is that the relative/comparative difficulty (or ease) of doing a desired thing is not a logical reason to shame the people who can do it more easily. The male presidents of the United States obviously aren’t dirty, impulsive, undesirable, or low value individuals just because it’s easIER for men to become president than it is for women. Men aren’t shamed for using prostitutes because it’s easier for them to do that than it is for women. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:55 PM
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I mean, yes? I was never going to marry someone with heritable health issues or disabilities, or who couldn’t give me children. And I was very excited about my kid getting her dad’s smarts, his hair texture, and his athleticism genetics. I was hoping she would have his skin tone too, but that didn’t come to be. And I also like him for him, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:33 PM
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Translation: “I went to therapy for trauma and grief counseling for 2 weeks and that didn’t work, so I tried a bunch of other things before settling for someone I didn’t really like. Now I can’t stop comparing my new man to the one I still haven’t gotten over.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:29 PM
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I’m not assuming it’s every man. But that doesn’t matter. Do you know how many men masquerade as wholesome, “traditional” men in order to get in virgin women’s pants? In order to abuse them? And by the time those women realize which type of virgin hunter they’re dealing with, it’s already too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:24 PM
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It doesn’t matter whether a man has coovid or a cold; they come to a complete stop, whereas women just keep going with taking care of everyone else, regardless if they have the same thing. Yes, women are the more emotional gender. That doesn’t make the fact that men are babies about being sick untrue. Stick to the topic at hand. Very few men are going to work, let alone at manual labor jobs, when they’re feeling ill. Most women’s husbands will call off or leave early, and then come home and go s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:21 PM
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Okay, but that’s not the point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:15 PM
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Some of us, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:14 PM
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Yes, but also to avoid abuse 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:13 PM
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Ban me then. I’m not letting motherfuckers do that to me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:12 PM
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People lying about their sexual history to gain a relationship is ill advised, but it has nothing to do with this present discussion. The men who are making virgin women uncomfortable enough to lie about their virginity are not just preferring virgins because they’ve had bad experiences with high n women. Like I said, they think of sex as men “using” women’s bodies, and they want an “unused” woman, or they have a deflowering fetish, and/or they want to bring a woman physical pain by taking their…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:10 PM
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Yeah, it is one of those moments, tbh. I was full of rage
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:41 PM
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Your mum didn’t take care of you? You’ve never seen media portrayals of 1950s housewives?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:40 PM
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I hope you have better experiences, then
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:39 PM
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How is it circular logic? Women have bad sexual experiences with virgins -> women prefer more sexually experienced partners as a result -> this is not a creepy or predatory reason to prefer non-virgins Women have bad sexual experiences with virgins -> women prefer more sexually experienced partners as a result -> men lie about/omit their virginity status in order to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:36 PM
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See edit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:32 PM
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Oh sure. “All these women are saying they’re upset because they have to push through their illnesses in order to take care of their sick husbands are really just covering up for the fact that they’re heartless bitches that can’t summon enough compassion to tolerate ANY sign of weakness in their partners to include minor colds” is toootally not at all like a conspiracy theory 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:32 PM
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I’ll let you continue burrowing into your self-sabotaging beliefs instead of listening to women talk about what they actually find acceptable for their partners to emote.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:28 PM
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Whether they omit/lie about their virginity to get sex or to avoid a bruised ego, my point still stands: men’s preference for virgins are often rooted in significantly more harmful reasons than women’s preference for sexually experienced men, and that’s why one group’s preference is socially accepted while the other is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:26 PM
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Men wanting virgins IS creepy— as in, it gives me the creeps. I will continue to refer to all men specifically looking for virgins as virgin hunters. I don’t care whether I’m lumping the wholesome-reason-ers in with the creeps and the predators. There are too many creeps masquerading as wholesome, and women too often don’t find out which one they’re dating until it’s too late. You can continue to deny the existence of creepy and predatory virgin hunters all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:23 PM
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You’ll be seen as less masculine if you are as emotional as women are, you mean. Because men can’t be like, “I’m crying at a kitten I saw on TV but it’s just because I’m PMSing.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:18 PM
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On any thread asking women about whether they’ve lied about their n count, there will be low n women replying that they’ve avoided mentioning their virginity, or have lied about it (said that they aren’t virgins) with the specific intention of filtering out virgin hunters. But go ahead and continue attempting to gaslight me about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:16 PM
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I can’t be sure, but my impression of the situation is that men are finding out women’s n counts and rejecting them if they perceive that they are too high, and not asking questions like: What are the circumstances in which you accrued these partners? how many previous relationships have you been in, and under what circumstances did they end? what are your beliefs surrounding sex? what are your beliefs surrounding cheating? Have you ever cheated before? Etc. The temptation thing skews the result…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:13 PM
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They’re both negative outcomes, but one outcome is like, abuse and physical harm. Compared to a bruised ego or just not getting something pleasurable. There are men who want virgins because they’re also virgins and they share the belief sex is sacred and that people are only meant to have one partner their whole life and stuff. But the reality is, there is enough men out there who do have harmful reasons for wanting a virgin that virgin women have starting intentionally concealing the fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:58 PM
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It’s cuz we have different hormones cycling through our bodies. Men are expected to be less emotional than women, not emotionless
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:54 PM
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Not getting laid sucks, but it doesn’t suck as bad as someone breaking your hymen as forcefully as possible in order to inflict pain on you, or taking advantage of your naivety, or enjoying being the one to “use” your body or “conquer” you for the first time, or… We are comparing “not wanting to have more bad sex/teach a virgin to have sex” with “wanting a virgin to do nefarious things to”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:48 PM
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Let’s go over it again. Women who are virgins have negative experiences with virgin hunters -> women begin lying/omitting virginity status to avoid virgin hunters because they are creepy/predatory/generally bad -> men “having a preference” for virgins gets shamed. Women have negative sexual experiences with virgin men -> women begin rejecting virgin men for sex and relationships -> men start lying/omitting their virginity -> women continue having negative sexual experiences with virgin men -> wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:42 PM
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Women are almost never shamed by men for being virgins. Basically, the worst that happens when a man reveals that he’s a virgin is a verbal insult, or a rejection for sex/relationships. The worst that happens when a woman reveals it is she ends up being physically hurt, abused, manipulated, fetishized, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:36 PM
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Fix, or eventually come to be able to c*pe with. Again, same with women. Nobody wants to be with a partner who’s permanently sad or emotionally dysregulated. But a good partner understands that having negative emotions is part of being human, and is there for you when you need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:33 PM
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They’re separate observations, not a logical conclusion based off of the initial observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:28 PM
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Enough men want low-n women for creepy and predatory reasons that some women feel the need to omit/lie about their virginity status, for self-protection Women don’t want low n men for non-creepy and non-predatory reasons, such that men’s reasons for lying/omitting virginity are so that they can get laid. So when people here are saying “why is it okay for women to have n count preferences (not liking virgins) and not men (wanting virgins)?” That’s the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:26 PM
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You’re allowed to cry because your depressed as long as you’re willing to seek help to resolve your depression. Same as with women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:22 PM
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There are other, definitely creepy reasons beyond men thinking non-virgin women are less moral people (which is not a great reason either, to be fair) that men give for wanting virgin partners. That’s why virgin women will often lie/omit their virginity status. (Also, the studies on that are all messed up, if you’re referring to the one that’s most commonly cited here. They’re conducted by people who aren’t neutral at all about the topic, they conveniently ignore the fact that an individual with…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:20 PM
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Yeah, I def could have worded it better
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:11 PM
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If you go to that other thread about whether women can tell if men are virgins, you’ll find at least 10 men that have responded with “they don’t. Just lie about it or don’t mention it.” But if you ask women whether they’ve lied about their n counts, you will receive answers from women who said they lied about theirs when they were virgins because they didn’t want to end up with virgin hunters. Sorry if reality is “uncharitable.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:10 PM
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No. Where are you getting that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:07 PM
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Both genders have issues. It’s just that the issues are different, so when you have people going “why are men shamed for wanting partners with a certain n count, but women aren’t?” you can reply with this ^
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:06 PM
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👀
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:02 PM
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Right. You would lie or not disclose it in order to assure the sex happens. Whereas a woman would not disclose it because she is protecting herself from bad men. This is why men wanting virgins is creepy, and women not wanting virgins is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:01 PM
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That’s besides the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:58 PM
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You don’t need to. It’s up to each individual whether they want to or not. The point is that men and women often don’t disclose it for vastly different reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:46 PM
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Men lie about being virgins, or purposely fail to disclose their virginity, in order to get sex. Women lie about being virgins, or purposely fail to disclose their virginity, to avoid men who want to fetishize, hurt, and take advantage of them. These are not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:39 PM
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The men using the word “deflower” definitely aren’t doing that. They are causing women pain. It’s in the definition of the word
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:24 PM
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At the expense of whose pleasure? The men’s? There are women out there that are happy to be with virgin men; they are free to find those ones and gain some experience, like every other dude that has experience. It’s “I want to lock down a virgin woman so I can give her bad sex” vs “I don’t want to lock down a man I won’t be satisfied with. He should get some experience with other people.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:21 PM
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It is physically uncomfortable to be “deflowered” (god I fucking hate that word). Therefore, wanting to do that to women is creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:17 PM
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But it comes at the expense of the virgin’s pleasure, ultimately. “It’s okay if I’m bad because she doesn’t know any better.” The better response to fearing not being able to please your partner adequately is to learn how to be better in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:15 PM
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You may want nothing more than to be pleasing. It still takes time to learn, and most women are just so tired of bad sex that they’re not patient enough to teach. It’s just easier to stick with already experienced partners, and to sort the pleasing ones from the displeasing ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:12 PM
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If men just raised their standards to only date compassionate women, there’d be enough unpaired women for them to become more compassionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:10 PM
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Wanting someone who is experienced because it makes it more likely that they won’t have to endure bad sex is a defensive preference. It doesn’t come from thinking inexperienced men are like, bad or worthless people. And the thing with older virgins tending to be unattractive for other reasons is said about both genders, so it’s not just a female thing. The reasons men give about wanting virgins include: “deflowering fetishes” (big ick. Losing your virginity as a woman is often physically uncomfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:08 PM
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That’s a very male attitude. Men think the sex is good as long as they get off at the end. They’re much easier to please than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:54 PM
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There are better women out there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:53 PM
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That’s sad. He should practice
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:52 PM
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Men want virgins for creepy and predatory reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:51 PM
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Right, that’s what I said. But that doesn’t change the fact that inexperienced men just aren’t good in bed (yet, at least.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:51 PM
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Honestly, you’re right; everyone should get sympathy. I’m just angry about the inconsistencies and the manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:50 PM
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You keep saying that. It doesn’t change the fact that people are just fucking nasty to women who are just enjoying sex the way men do. There’s literally no reason to do that. They absolutely can be changed. All people have to do is just not shit on sexually active women. And there you go again with the whataboutisms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:47 PM
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Or you’ll get horribly depressed, mentally ill, and/or kill yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:44 PM
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We don’t hate older virgin men. We don’t want to date or have sex with them because a) generally, the reason why they’ve reached that age without getting sex is because they are flawed in unattractive ways, and b) we don’t like having sex with virgins because inexperienced people have no idea what they’re doing and most of us go through like a whole lot of partners who are just never gonna be satisfactory in bed and we’re not patient enough to endure more bad sex while we teach a newbie. There’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:43 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:38 PM
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Pink, yellow, or blue.. Red means love, so basically any other color than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:37 PM
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Seems like it would be less effort to just write it yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:35 PM
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All people need emotional support
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:33 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:32 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:32 PM
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Bitch, I said “easier” the first comment. All I’m doing is mimicking the sad-sacks on this fucking sub that want to whine about how “infinitely” easier it is for women to obtain sex. I don’t know how many times I have to explain to thickskulled men that saying “I don’t want to date high n women” and “high n women are “dirty, impulsive, low value, used goods, and [every other negative trait and insult they can think up]” are completely different. The point is that, the same way it’s nonsense to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:29 PM
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I’m not resentful; this is reality and I’ve come to accept it. I just think it’s funny that when sick women have to take care of their sick husbands, and they’re not perfectly thrilled about having to carry on when they also feel like garbage, men take that as women being bitches who can’t bear to see their men being vulnerable ever. And even if it is “physiological differences,” why the fuck should men get sympathy? I don’t know how many times in my life I’ve heard women discussing how miserabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:22 PM
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No, what you are doing is making assumptions about my opinion of men, saying I’m “in denial,” or terrified of men who aren’t asexual,” saying I’m immature for not wanting to be friends with men that have confessed feelings for me, and being snide in ways I don’t feel like copying and pasting right now. Shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:12 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:09 PM
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Becoming president is difficult for anybody, but you’re delusional if you don’t think it’s infinitely easier for men to get elected (at the very least, historically) to presidency than it is for women. No woman is saying she wants people to be impressed with her sexual history. We are saying we don’t want to be shamed for enjoying sex the way men are socially permitted to, and that it being easier for us to secure isn’t a logical reason to shame us for enjoying sex. The opposite of “impressment”…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:08 PM
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See other replies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:58 PM
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Could it also be that more men work outside the home, and so more men were exposed to covid? Like I said to someone else, I don’t think men really experience more severe illness symptoms. I think they’re just not used to carrying on when they feel like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:57 PM
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The immune response is what makes people feel like garbage. Your germ-ensnaring mucus clogging up your sinuses is what gives you a headache. Mucus in your lungs makes you short of breath when you have bronchitis. General inflammation is what gives you body aches during viral infections. If women’s immune systems are better at responding to sickness, wouldn’t we feel worse than men? We’ve got double the genes that code for the reaction, after all. I think it’s just that men are conditioned to exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:55 PM
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If you don’t like being humiliated, why do you keep going out and getting humiliated? You are self harming. You can begin to adapt in therapy, where it is a safe space. When you are recovered, you can resume going out and socializing with people, and you won’t be humiliated. The self-help books weren’t written for people who need therapy; they were written for people who have mild social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:47 PM
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That is literally what the urban dictionary link you sent me says. https://preview.redd.it/akin3ls22kab1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=760f01a322683d8dc91ea68dc9e98e363c921fcd All men are horny. That is a fact. Not all of them are so horny that they can’t have female friends. Not all of them catch feelings (which includes being horny) for their female friends, or admit those feelings to their female friends. Their female friends may or may not feel comfortable remaining frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:43 PM
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You keep posting about how people negatively react to you the way you are now any time you go out, and how you like going out and being humiliated. Your therapist wants you to stay home until you’re adapted to fit in with the rest of society, so you can stop harming yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:36 PM
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Your therapist is trying to help you stop self-harming
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:30 PM
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What do you mean “urban dictionary disagrees” lmao? A friend that wants to fuck you is an orbiter. That’s what happens if your friend comes out and says he wants to date you. You fuck the people you want to date. Keeping friends that want to fuck you is keeping orbiters
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:27 PM
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I think the ones that don’t want to date me and keep their sexual attraction to themselves have self control. I don’t think being around men who are open about being into me and are trying to escape the friend zone are friends that I want to have. For me, platonic friendship has very specific boundaries, and when they’re crossed, that’s it. It’s over. That doesn’t mean that individual’s friendship wasn’t valuable to me, or that I won’t mourn losing them as a friend. But like I said, I’m just not…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:25 PM
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Q4M: if your significant other had a male friend who confessed feelings and/or sexual attraction for her, would you feel comfortable if they remained friends after she rejects him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:21 PM
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Friends don’t fuck each other. That’s not what friendship entails
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:18 PM
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That’s the definition of an orbiter
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:17 PM
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I’ve asked for 4 reasons: 0.) avoiding virgins or particularly inexperienced men who just aren’t gonna be good at sex yet 1.) assessing STD risk (in addition to asking about condom use and regular testing) 2.) allowing them to ask me in return, eliminating anyone who would feel some type of way about mine 3.) curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:16 PM
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You do you. I don’t keep orbiters
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:01 PM
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This is just how things are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:57 PM
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I bet you’re real into conspiracy theories too, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:56 PM
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You can at least pretend he doesn’t want to fuck you if he doesn’t come out and say it. I also think like, men are rational human beings with self control, so even if they think you’re attractive and wouldn’t say no if you came into them, they still like, suppress that desire to fuck you enough so that it’s not weird to be friends with them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:55 PM
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I care. That’s weird. Now every time he gives you a compliment, you think, is this just a compliment or is he flirting? You can’t vent to him because now it could be that he’s being a good friend, or that he’s trying to be there for you like a boyfriend would. Any time you two physically touch one another in a way that’s socially appropriate for friends, it’s just different. Now he’s not your friend, he’s an orbiter
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:53 PM
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It absolutely is true. Last time everyone in my household was sick with qovid, who was cooking meals and doing the laundry and administering the medicine? Me. Not my husband. He was laid out, like you said. And this is not just my experience; there are thousands of stories like this on the interwebs. “Men are babies when they get sick” is a meme for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:49 PM
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They barely tolerate me being sick (all men have stories about getting shit from women for being laid out with the flu or something). This is because when men and women have the same sickness, be it a cold or the flu or the coofvid, guess who still gets up and takes care of everyone else in the household even though they feel like garbage? Women. And the men lay on the couch for three days like they’re gonna die. Edit: Here come all the angry men. Hey, why don’t instead of arguing with me, prove…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:45 PM
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Winning the US presidential election is wayyy easier for men than it is for women, so obviously all of the US presidents are just dirty, impulsive, undesirable, low value men. (But I’m not shaming them, you know?)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:40 PM
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Let’s stage a coup!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:34 PM
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The poors?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:33 PM
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Honestly every time a friend has made a move on me, I wanted to end the friendship too. How can you just hang out with someone you know for certain wants to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:25 PM
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Having a lot of sex doesn’t necessitate that one is impulsive. You can just like having sex and see no reason not to do it, so you have a lot of it with whomever you please
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:47 AM
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There’s a difference between “I’m not going to date this person because she’s slept with too many people,” and “This chick is a dirty, used up, ran through cum sock! All sluts have xyz bad character traits!” The latter is 100% shaming, and you can’t just write that off as, “well it’s easier for women to get dates and sex.” Okay, well, obviously both genders like dating and sex, so tell me again why only women should refrain from those things ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:46 AM
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I think you replied to the wrong person, but what I will say is that everyone experiences that, not just men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:41 AM
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I don’t think anyone should be shamed for enjoying what comes easy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:44 AM
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I pay for dinner whenever hubby forgets his wallet. Does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:36 AM
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Are you talking about virginity?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:20 AM
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Eat food. Move your body. Love your spouse. Make babies. Play with your kids. Explore the world. Appreciate the little things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:20 AM
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Oh man, I didn’t even think about witch hunting. Sorry bro
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:54 AM
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Ask her on a free/inexpensive date and if she goes, she’s not using you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:52 AM
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I thought my husband was a butterface when we first met. Now I think he’s the handsomest man in the world, and I love him very, very, very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:51 AM
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What, you mean you can’t tell from that information?!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:08 AM
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I’m a millennial, but I have, in fact, recently purchased a crop top for the first time… however, because I have wrinkly belly skin from housing a 10lb baby in my uterus, I only wear it with high waisted pants that just meet the lower hem of the shirt. I do go dancing, I rarely drink, I have one hidden tattoo (that I got when I was a virgin), I have no piercings (ear holes closed up), no “dead eyes,” naturally colored hair, I… don’t remember if I’ve ever done reverse cowgirl unprompted, I do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:40 PM
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And neon colored excessively long plastic nails, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:15 PM
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Woman who’s dated lots of older men here. I can confirm that they are, but lots have been socialized into believing that the attraction to younger women is “perverted” and “morally wrong” instead of just biologically normal. My husband is 25 years older and you would not believe the hate he gets every time I mention it on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:13 PM
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Yes. Every gen z female is a slut now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:50 PM
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Depends on their hairstyle, I guess. The recommendation is every 6 weeks for a trim, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:49 PM
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Oh, so like female pricing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:39 PM
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How much is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:25 PM
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Voyeurism is watching other people have sex in general, not necessarily your partner. Technically you don’t have to watch your partner have sec with others to be a cuckold/cuckquean either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:19 PM
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Idk, if she’s half naked and missing a few teeth and walking up to random men’s cars, that might be a good indication she’s a whore
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:08 PM
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Slut as in, having a given man’s definition of high n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:56 PM
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I would not date a cuck, but I am a cuckquean
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:53 PM
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General correlations? Yes. But if you think every woman who dresses a certain way or likes to dance or does a certain sexual position without being asked (lol) or has a dead-eyed look or has slutty friends or or or whatever kind of nonsense men come up with…and you reject women with no further investigation beyond that, or you think the woman you’ve picked is a Madonna because she doesn’t have any of those traits, you’re a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:47 PM
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Gonna start compiling a list of traits men think are predictive of women being sluts lol [redacted]
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:37 PM
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Cuckoldry has a humiliation aspect to it. The cuckold gets off on his partner being with other men and intentionally excluding him. People who are permissive of their partners dating/having sex with others, but there isn’t that humiliation or exclusion aspect, aren’t engaging in cuckoldry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:35 PM
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It's way more common for younger people to date people they don't realize are dead ends. I think both scenarios happen. Women will date men they think are dumb and know won’t amount to anything because they’re hot and/or fun. Men will date women they don’t think are suitable wives or mothers because they have good sex… few young people are thinking ahead and setting their standards high enough. Typically, when a woman is having kids in her 40s, it's an accident Disagree. Some are accidents, sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:27 PM
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I’m going to ignore your piss poor analogies. Let’s work on some definitions for words, and break this down Barney-style: val·ue noun the regard that something is held to deserve; the importance, worth, or usefulness of something."your support is of great value” verb consider (someone or something) to be important or beneficial; have a high opinion of. “she had come to value her privacy and independence" So, sex has inherent value (as a noun) to me because it is important, worthwhile, and useful…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:07 PM
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Because it isn't inherently valuable to those people. You keep saying that, but how can you just decide what’s valuable or not to other people? There’s no logical reason why sex loses value just because someone has it casually. Like, sex itself is extremely valuable to me. Being good at it was like a primary filter for men who were interested in me romantically; I simply wouldn’t have settled down with someone who wasn’t sexually compatible with me. And I would be extremely unhappy if I wasn’t h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:04 PM
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Stroke and cancer, probably
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:42 PM
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Probably, but I don’t think that’s a good financial decision right now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:15 PM
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I don’t know why people assuming having casual sex for fun/pleasure makes it “inherently [not] valuable.” There is casual sex and there is sex with someone you love, and both are still valuable. It’s just that one is intimate and one isn’t. In my view of things, cheating isn’t wrong because all sex is intimate; cheating is wrong because it would hurt my partner, and would violate his trust in me. My views about sex make less worried about him having sex with other people because it’s just sex. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:10 PM
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Fucking until you start dating is a good idea only if sexual compatibility is very important to you, you don’t catch feelings easily, and you can get casual sex easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:59 PM
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Enough that I could make our yard look nice. I can cut the grass, sweep the walkways and the deck, trim the hedges, do the weeding, edge and spread mulch on the beds… and I’m sure I could do enough googling to figure what plants would survive where. The biggest issue is just finding the time to do that when I have a toddler to care for and supervise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:52 PM
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That’s what the feminists say, but I quite enjoy it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:35 PM
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No. I want to do it myself and he wants to hire someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:34 PM
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They want to do the least invasive intervention first. I’m sure lots of young women lie about having had sex, and I’m sure there are cases where the memory of a sexual assault is repressed… that’s what happens a lot of times when young women don’t know they are pregnant until they’re giving birth. The ultrasound also helps diagnose internal organ issues
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:33 PM
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Hubby wants me to call and hire landscapers to do our lawn, because he feels like it’s not maintained often/well enough. I would rather do it myself, because I feel that we are already borderline-overextended on our reoccurring expenses, and I told him if I can just manage my time better, I can do yard work more often… He said he would prefer if I did other things with my time, even if I made more of it. I told him I’d call the landscaper, and to not be too proud to let me know if we ever needed…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:28 PM
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It was about whether to hire landscapers vs. doing it ourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:23 PM
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I am lean and I make like <10k a year. I have a husband who provides for me. Anyone who would rather work and be fat is flushing their female privilege down the toilet
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:21 PM
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I do think that it’s unrealistic to expect men to find expensive dates each time he tries out a new partner. Also, women who don’t want to go on inexpensive/free dates probably aren’t that interested in the dude himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:18 PM
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Don’t hurt yourself with that enormous reach
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:13 PM
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The patriarchy is generally good
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:11 PM
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Brains continue to change and develop throughout the human lifespan. There is no definitive point where the brain has “finished” developing.” I do think people should take their time getting to know a potential life partner before having children with them, and be much more intentional about dating and reproduction. So many people are dating people they see as dead ends and then rushing to settle down in their 30s and then not being done having kids when they’re in their late-30s/early 40s, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:10 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:58 PM
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But not being able to have your own children is an extremely difficult thing to deal with, emotionally and psychologically. If a friend or family member is willing to ease your burden and help you, why should that not be permitted?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:58 PM
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Everybody thinks they are intellectually and morally superior to the opposition. The real goal of public debate is not to change the opposition’s mind, but to influence anyone who isn’t definitively decided on a given issue. For example, when I first heard of TRP, I went looking for its content in order to have a laugh at some sad, delusional, misogynistic men. But as I was reading it, I was like, “Wait a minute, some of this actually makes sense.” They brought up topics I hadn’t really thought …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:56 PM
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People here are not in relationships with one another. They come to debate, not compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:41 PM
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I let my husband lead this morning and make a decision for us, even though I disagree… I hope he appreciates it, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:38 PM
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You don’t think people deserve to have their own biological children if they’re infertile?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:33 PM
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That would be… incredibly inconvenient
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:30 PM
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Message him and ask how he’s doing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:57 PM
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I don’t really care that much though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:55 PM
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People who believe sex is a special thing that’s only meant to be had with someone they love still feel sexual attraction to and temptation for other people though. And those who only feel responsive libido can still catch feelings for other people while in a relationship. I think the things that really mitigate cheating are whether you feel like you’ve got the best partner possible at home, how strongly you believe in the importance of fidelity, and whether you’re getting your emotional and sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:12 PM
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He did it first
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:04 PM
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I have zero piercings currently, my hair is not dyed, and my one tattoo is only visible if I’m topless. Once again, it is revealed how easy it is to fly under the radar
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:04 PM
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D&Cs are unnecessary before 9-10 weeks gestation and incur unnecessary risks, including uterine scarring that can cause infertility and the risks associated with anesthesia (death.) Women shouldn’t be getting D&Cs if they don’t need them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:01 PM
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There’s no such thing as full-term abortion. Once the fetus is capable of surviving outside of the womb, the term is “induction” or “emergency c-section.” They induce labor and deliver the baby early, or surgically retrieve it, and this is only done for medical reasons. If the premie is able to survive, it is then given the medical care it needs to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:58 AM
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anti-lifers No. They are called “pro choice” because they want people who want to keep their pregnancies to do so, and people who want to terminate their pregnancies to be able to do so. Abortions are not some light and inconsequential thing that some women need; they’re an unfortunate necessity and deeply unpleasant experience that women choose as a method of damage control. Anti-choicers want to take that choice away. They are not accurately “called pro lifers” because they don’t give a shit w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:49 AM
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Medicinal abortions are not performed past 9-10 weeks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:41 AM
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I don’t surmise that low n people feel less FOMO than high n people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:55 AM
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Isn’t it funny that when anti-choicers talk about abortion, they often graphically describe DnCs, and rarely talk about medicinal abortions? Like they want it to be thought of as the most violent version possible, instead of just… a woman’s uterus shedding a pregnancy, just like it would if the fetus was incompatible with life to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:48 AM
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You just don’t shit where you eat. Don’t fuck anybody in the same social circles as you. Then there’s nobody to whisper about it to your friends and coworkers. The only person who can tell anyone is you. This is why I say the “town bike” argument doesn’t apply unless you live in a small town. Edited to add: also, any of your “friends” that tell a prospective suitor your sexual history aren’t friends. That’s your story to tell and no one else’s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:33 AM
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Sluts tend to congregate with each other. Sooo… how do you know her friends are sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:19 AM
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Is it? I would just ask them how many people they’ve slept with, and then they felt safe to ask me in return. I hardly think being honest about it and letting them make an informed decision about whether they want a relationship with me is “playing” them. I have no reason to cause a breakdown of unit cohesion and respect from subordinates while also making every female in the profession look bad. I got where I am quickly because I’m good at what I do, and I have a husband at home who provides ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:17 AM
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I did want somebody who accepted me for who I am, including my sexual history, yes. I started asking and sharing about it early on with every man I was going on dates with. Why would I want someone who thought less of me for enjoying sex? The ones who were okay with it were far from “suckers.” They were well-adjusted and attractive men. The women who are sleeping with their managers or chain of command might get promoted, but they sure as hell aren’t respected by their peers or subordinates… I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:09 AM
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Pillsphere men are obsessed with cuckholdry, it seems. Either that or they don’t have any idea what the fetish is and they throw around Willy-nilly. The workplace environment is relevant because it’s like 95% men, and if they could just tell from looking at me, like you claim, there’s no way I’d be respected or successful. Even if it’s a non-sexual environment, people still judge each other for their personal lives, and that seeps into every interaction… like there was a dude who spent a crapton…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:58 AM
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Bruh, I told my husband my n count on our first date. He doesn’t care. We talk about all my sexual experiences quite frequently, because he’s curious and he likes hearing about what I like and don’t like and what we can do together. And like I said, other men I interact with think I’m sexually conservative. There’s no way that most of the men I work with would respect me the way they do if they knew what my sexual history entails. It’d ruin my career. They just have no idea, though. And there’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:50 AM
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No, no, it definitely shrinks the overall dating pool. But there’s just so many men in the world, that even a significant reduction still leaves more partners than a promiscuous woman could reasonably meet and vet in a lifetime. There’s also the consideration that men who want low-n women for romantic partners generally aren’t compatible with high-n women to begin with, so it’s not like they weren’t going to be eliminated from the pool of desired possible partners either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:46 AM
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Lol. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to be able to believe the women you choose are perfect Madonnas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:42 AM
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Women would find ways to order abortifacients from other countries, or would induce unsafe abortions in other, less effective ways. Those who are unable or unsuccessful will have babies they can’t properly care for, and those babies will either suffer or be put up for adoption, and their mothers will grieve the separation from the children they grew in their bodies for the rest of their lives. Some would die from pregnancy and childbirth complications. But I think eventually they would go back t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:39 AM
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I don’t disagree with you, but I also recognize that is our subjective opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:32 AM
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I hate to break it to you, but most people do not buy houses outright these days. Even the extremely wealthy leverage loans to their advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:31 AM
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There are many reasons why somebody might wear a given facial expression. You can look angry because you read something offensive on the internet, or because your boss unfairly denied your requested time off, for example. Similarly, people can look “dead eyed” for different reasons— like disassociating to c*pe with trauma, stress, or grief, general tiredness and consequently spacing out, or a variety of other personal situations and emotional states. To say that they are dead-eyed because they’v…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:29 AM
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Gaslight, gatekeep, boyboss 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:19 AM
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We do like the winners
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:17 AM
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I can understand men who are in the public eye not wanting their significant others to dress in a way that can be perceived as trashy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:15 AM
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It’s alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:13 AM
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The average number of sexual partners for men and women in the United States is 7.2, reports a recent Superdrug survey. https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/average-number-of-sexual-partners Don’t know about this source’s methodology or anything, but it’s not a number “off the top of my head”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:11 AM
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A person who was not upset would say something like “Oh, we’re from different cultures. My way of telling works here but not in the US.” They wouldn’t say “you’re irrelevant to me,” (make it personal) or swear
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:06 AM
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Oh I get it, because women are actually capable of understanding emotional states?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:59 AM
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I don’t know whether it’s hard to find attractive, low n women or not. All I know is that, in my experience as a high n women (by like 99% of people’s definition of high), it hasn’t been difficult to secure commitment from good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:58 AM
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You sound upset
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:53 AM
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East coast of the USA. Why do you ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:50 AM
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I’m a mega slut and I drink less than 5 times a year. You’re gonna need more accurate tells than that dear
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:49 AM
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I bet you’re fun at parties
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:47 AM
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What I’m saying is, the men here assert “all women who have a high n by my own standards struggle to get commitment from quality men.” But in reality, for every dude whose limit is, say, 5, there’s probably a woman who’s had less than that. For every dude whose limit is 15, there’s probably a woman who’s had less than that. So on and so forth. Because as the limits (or definition of “too high”) get further from the average answer in either direction, so do the number of women with corresponding …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:47 AM
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