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Men are honest about what we want. Also we dont usually want the crazy women to marry and love forever if you know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:40 PM
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Other mens' advice has been way more useful than womens advice. The actuall good advice i've gotten from women has been from close female friends who are completely honest with me, told in confidence and is the type of advice women would hate or say is sexist. That's been my experience, dont know if is the same for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:38 PM
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Women can go by no reading the bios and still get matches. Gets is irrelevant to your original thrad, just pointing out how much easy women have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:29 PM
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All of womens bios in dating apps are the same. You're not as interesting as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:21 PM
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Best explanation in here. Basically women want men that are a mix of traditonal things exactly where they want them and progressive things exactly when they want them, while they can act as traditional women when they want, and act as progressive women when they want. That's not how it works, It's a weird combination.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:19 PM
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No, never said one gender is smarter. Which I think is part of why people act offended. And not getting in my feelings, the overwhelming amount of evidence is there, and we're agreeing in almost everything except that you somehow think "those differences dont make a big difference" which is kinda subjective and no way to argue for/against that in a objective way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:21 PM
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Sure, there are tiny differences in certain tasks, like spatial reasoning or verbal fluency, Yes that's my point, just that is not as 'tiny' as you think nor as big as most men think, but they're there. There's a bunch of sources here and in google aswell. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7331091/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence It's a controversial issue nowaday because you have to accept men and women have inherently different brains... which makes a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:23 PM
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We absolutely are. Here's the thing tho: Doesn't mean we aren't completely emotionless and doesn't mean women are completely emotional. It's the hyperbolic mentality a huge part of most of society's problems nowadays It is also true if you want to get better at attracting women you have to learn to be more emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 06:42 PM
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From my attractive womanizer male friend's experiences (I only listen lol): Yes. They do know. That's why the "I'm gonna leave my wife for you" phrase it's a meme, cause it's really common. The thing is, usually women don't say it out loud because they know it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 06:37 PM
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You stop being a relationship option, not a "sex" option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:14 PM
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womenflation. Those women want a man that is not the same, but is above them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:11 PM
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Basically lol. Dude probably wants a really attractive girlfriend, he has 1% probability of getting her unless he looks/has the networth of Henry Cavill. Those women are taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:33 PM
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Yeah, too much pressure, and that school probably was afraid of the social backslash. I see your point. Thankfully that's slowly chaning and to tell you the truth, I've been researching and I just googled men's mental health in google news and I got a bunch of events happening including a woman doing yoga classes and donating the revenue to a men's charity. Honestly it was a suprise, a welcome one for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:02 PM
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I see the problem, you're thinking MRA is one specific group that encompasses every men's movement under the sun. I'm talking about some MRA groups that have been categorized as "being part of a hate ideology under the umbrella of male supremacy" by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Two very different things, the ones you see online are mostly the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:53 PM
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If a man was driven enough to make a campaign in favour of men’s wellbeing, of course his female colleagues would help out. Doubftul, specially since events focused on this are generally shutdown by society https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/2195937/despite-male-suicide-school-cancels-mens-health-day-after-feminists-complain/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:24 PM
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Extremist groups in any ideology have not done any good in society indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:22 PM
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lol, same answer as always. I'd guess most of those things need strong social support, and they would be difficult to do on your own. Just as men have helped with things like legalizing abortion, we also need a lot of women's help to get most of these things done. Sadly, it won't happen because most women's reply is always, "Do it yourself."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:19 AM
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Cause women have sex appeal by default, so the brains kinda shuts it down. This is also why a womanizer man is admired but a woman who has slept around is not. It's literally the easiest thing in life for women, while for men is something that takes HUGE amounts of effort. (Unless you're the top 1%)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:57 AM
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If you're attractive enough (if you're of the top 10% of men) most women will sleep with you regardles of your beliefs. The very small portion of women that would not be interested in you, aren't super attractive either so, most men aren't pretending, no need to pretend and not worth it. MAYBE if you live in a super liberal area but even then, it's just the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:51 AM
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Of course we do. We don't have any issues admiting that. Would women admit that their rules don't apply if the guy is extremely physically attractive and things like personality don't matter at that level?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:05 PM
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In addition to what everybody here has said, I'd never volunteer to be a 'Big brother'. I'm sure society would not look good at me for hanging around underage kids. Also, this is frowned upon, but women are natural cargivers, that's biology. Look for organizations focused on different things like building something and I'm sure numbers will be different. I used to volunteer at the red cross and it was almost evenly men/women although different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:03 PM
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I've always believed it's because a lot of men with "baggage" kill themselves when they're younger, so older men tend to be more resilient.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:00 PM
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I know, most people don't see it/ignore it. Which only makes the problem bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:54 AM
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Which I believe is part of the cause of the poor mental health issues we have nowadays. You shouldn't apologize for what a group of people do, you should apologize for WHAT YOU DO.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:38 PM
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You're right that's dumb. Just as "being genuinely nice man will make you more attractive to women". Thing is, one idea is accepted as true, the other not. You're right but you didn't understand OP's point I guess. Being nice/good has nothing to do with your success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:35 PM
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cool, you do you 👍 But if you want to stop getting attention you know the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:42 PM
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Masculine traits, like assertiveness, confidence, and dominance, are overwhelmingly rewarded by women in dating I believe what you're doing is called "cherry-picking"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:07 AM
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Lol, how's that meme "women taking accountability challenge". If you don't want people to look at you, don't wear skimpy clothes. That's how it is. Is it fair? Fuck no, welcome to the real world. You're free to complain as much as you want and try to do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:05 AM
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Most men won't think is "woke" if you label it as men's issues. But good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:34 AM
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Great, so, what should society do to help those men? It's obvious we have a men's mental health crisis. What would you recommend from a political/social point of view?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:24 PM
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Oh absolutely, but is one of those things women really have a hard time understanding. Like how most of my male friends who are succesful at dating tend to be the most cheating, aggresive, and kinda douchebag-type people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:22 PM
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I completely agree, but for that to work out you have to accept women usually select the dangerous/bad man and being an agressive men usually makes you more attractive to women. Which is usually the part women have a hard time accepting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:07 AM
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Nah, most people regardles of sex or gender are happier in relationships. Women are just better at tolerating being alone than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:00 AM
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No, nobody should pressure men to take steroids. However, yes, check your TRT levels please, it has gone down and recent studies have found out that testosterone is actually more helpful in men than damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:27 PM
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I mean yes... you should date people with similar lifestyle to yours....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:25 PM
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Most people I know are unattractive. If I have to be more specific by gender I'd say... 40% of men are attractive, and 50% of women are attractive. That extra 10% is why so many people think "women tend to be more attractive than men"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:20 PM
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That's how attractiveness works but some people have issues understanding: it's kinda subjective, but only once you pass an objective threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:14 PM
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Congrats on being good looking! I'm sure now you'll believe is your personality and sense of humor the reason you're successful! saw it a few times with my late bloomer friends back in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:57 AM
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By the way yo wrote that, I feel like you're actually a women posing as a man. But if you're not (doubt it), you're probably not average Yes, if youre less than average you don't get approached by women. Shouldn't be difficult to understand if you are a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:50 AM
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On the other hand, I remember when I was in my mid-20s and worked in a office of like 100 other mid-20s people and I never got any kind of attention from women. I get it works for like 90% of the people, but the other 10% that are just plaing ugly and boring just makes you feel more loneliner and depressed. I don't miss it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:09 PM
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Welcome to approaching women as man lol. Odds are not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:20 PM
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This is absolutely and completely a bargain regardles of your gender. I bet Op would get the same answer from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:19 PM
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It was at a party, she was drunk as fuck, just approached my friend and started to talk, eventually leading to the BJ question. Another time, different party, different girl was hugging my friend and just being touchy and playful, then suddenly she leaves kinda annoyed so I asked my friend what happen, apparently she wanted to fuck him in the bathrom but he thought it was disgusting. Another time, back when facebook was huge, read some PM he was getting from this "lesbian" girl who wanted to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:38 PM
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We were in college so 18-22? However I kept in touch with that friend and his stories with women were similar for a while until we were like 28-29 when he moved to another city and sadly we don't talk that much anymore, the stories probably slowed down a little bit due to age, but he's always going to have girls lusting for him, no question about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:11 AM
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Of course. Difference is, as always, we are honest about it. Most women will still believe is "personality and sense of humor the most important thing".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:34 AM
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Oh man, how do we tell OP? You're probably unatractive. Women lust over (good-looking) men all the time. Source: one of my close friend from college was super-model level and I saw women begging to giving him oral sex. It was eye-opening for my 18 yo ugly ass self.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:31 AM
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All the other comments already said it, its just not "disinterest" lol. A lot of people (more women than men) still have this "women are wonderful" belief lmao. We live in an age where is easier than ever to see how much a lie that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:28 AM
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It would be an absolutely terrible world to live on. Just saw a video in /r/JustGuysBeingDudes of a girl having an accident in the gym and the men next to her didn't even flinch to help her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:51 PM
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That's the exact opposite what guys online say. Those women would go for the 1% of men, those men have a ocean of women wanting to sleep with them so they never settle. Those women are absolutely getting cheated on by the same 1% top men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:47 PM
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Men's mental health is become more widely accepted. When do you think women should 'start to care'?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:41 PM
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It comes down as usual, to men being thirsty af and not having self-respect and self-love. Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:37 PM
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I once was ghosted by a woman who a year later I learned she was a single mother lol. Other time I dated a girl who gave me a chance, nothing awful happened we just grew apart and last thing I heard she's happily dating other man. Most guys don't realize women who have the emotional intelligence to ghost you are NOT the type of women who you'd want in your life. I'm 100% up for those types of women ghosting men, they're doing men a favor, most men are just desperate to realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:02 PM
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No, as long as she's hot that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:33 PM
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I've never seen that, but if that helps people feel more confortable, I'm sure that's a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:32 PM
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Have you seen Joey Swoll's account? People act very narcisistic when recording themselves. I applaud it honestly. There's only two regulars doing it constantly at my gym: a woman and a man and they're both super nice and polite, so people don't mind BUT to be fair, is not like you'll get kicked out if you do it, other gym goers just give you some small looks of disproval but that's enough for most people stop doing it, but if you're polite you won't have a negative experience doing it ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:48 PM
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Yeah it sucks no more all-women gyms are available, as a man I have no issues with them (I don't think any normal person have issues with that), whatever makes people confortable getting fit is OK in my book. My coed gym has security cameras all around and you can't use your phone to record yourself (thank god), some folks still do it but everybody know who they are, and they are usually just your nice regulars who are not disrespectful so whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:42 PM
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You can try all-women gyms! there's one near mine but my gym still gets a lot of women cause the enviroment is really welcoming for everybody. I already said in another comment I'm not american so culturally speaking, from what I've seen in some videos sounds it may suck in your country for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:39 PM
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You should tell those women to try all-women gyms if they want to avoid men. Like I said in other comment, there's an all-women gym near mine and most women still choose mine. Although I'm not american, judging from the stories I've read online, don't know how bad it is over there. Culture plays a big role.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:48 PM
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Don't know what you're getting at, but my 2 most successful friends that have no issues with women do listen to Tate and similar content, but they're not vocal about it. Also we're not american so they can't vote for trump but they're right wing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:28 PM
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As long as you treat your partner like a king, that's ok. I think what men talk about when talking about women wanting princess treatmen is that a lot of women hope for their partner to take care of them financially and basically all other aspects of their life, without giving much in return. That's a different demography to what you are. But yeah, a good healthy relationship has both sides treating their partner as special and offer to do things for eachother all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:22 PM
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You're not entitled to have "princess treatment".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:18 PM
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I grew up with a lot of women. I just think generally women tend to be more morning people than men lol. I always wake up a little bit grumpy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:27 PM
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There’s also an all-women’s gym just a few minutes from mine. Women could choose to go there (and I’m sure some do!), but many still choose my gym because it’s actually nice, and so are the people. In general, most gyms I’ve visited have been welcoming, unlike the negative impression people who don’t go to the gym might get from videos online. I honestly think it’s mostly because women often have different types of jobs and schedules than men, which makes it easier for them to go in the mornings…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:24 PM
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I'm a man and is the same. Men are lifting weights, women are taking cardio classes. I'd say however, the reason why OP think that women don't work out as much as men is probaby because of the time he works out. I've been lifting since covid and I've noticed a lot of women usually don't work out on weekends or even friday evenings; Also if you go from 8-11am you usually find more women than men, but if you go 5-9PM is more men than women. I think women tend to put social life above working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:19 AM
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I mean yeah, that sounds like the average college experience for my good looking male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:28 PM
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It doesn't mean that men from other demographics are always approaching either. The graphs in the study actually break it down by age, and across all demographics, there are men who choose not to approach. That number has been increasing over the past few years, with the rise being especially notable among Gen Z. So yeah, it's not 9% either, since you're being all technical. But granted is not 45% of all men. Just 45% of the current demography with the most amount of single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:16 PM
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Most of the times when asked a woman what does she think of men's issues it boils down to: don't care or just-world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:55 PM
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https://datepsychology.com/risk-aversion-and-dating/ The study is with gen-z men. That "9 billion people" argument doesn't make any sense at all. Most of the people who are born today were born decades ago. Most millenials still aproach women, although that's probably where the numbers started to go down. Gen-X never had this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:53 PM
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Another comment already mentioned it but basically, they're no going to be asking you or saying it directly you innocent child "people can read the room and make assumptions", and most likely than not, a succesful, attractive man than most women find attractvie = a good amount of sexual partners. While unattractive, awkward, ugly = not sexually succesful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:30 PM
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A lot of men that are doing cold approaches aren't looking for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:14 PM
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Yes, because, in general, men have a much higher sexual libido than women. This is an irrefutable fact—many men want to have sex the majority of the time, while women typically want it far less often.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:13 PM
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If you didn't find it funny, that's my bad. However, I do believe those are in fact normal things everybody should do to protect themselves, that wasn't a joke. And that's why I also understand why women nowadays are choosing not to have kids and I agree if that's your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:55 PM
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I was just making a sarcastic joke about how a lot of women act "logical" only when it’s convenient. Of course, there’s nothing wrong with that—just as there’s nothing wrong with a man asking for a DNA test for a newborn baby. These are normal things EVERYBODY should do to protect themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:51 PM
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Why would you think you'll divorce? If that's the case don't get married or don't have kids if you're thinking "what if I'll divorce". Watch what happens to a woman's mind if a man mentions he's planing what to do if they divorce/breakup to his wife/girlfriend. edit: /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:20 PM
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Just another tactic to try to get the dating apps up and living again. IIRC gen-z and younger hates them and don't use them as much as millenials did a decade ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:10 PM
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Nothing wrong with being celibate. Problem is A LOT OF PEOPLE both women and men validate masculinity based on men's sexual history
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:07 PM
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Yes, you'd be in the minority, I believe society should help the minorities* * only the approved minorities or you can get into troubles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:25 PM
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No, there's plenty things society can do: social programms, politics, healthcare, etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:23 PM
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I can almost guarantee you if society didn't automatically asummed "you're unattractive to women cause you're a bad person", plenty of men would take a lot of weight off their backs, mentally speaking. Plenty of men struggle without being shitty men, I'd argue shitty men have no issues finding women willing to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:21 PM
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Fair enough, thanks for your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:36 PM
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when men are literally doing the same thing to women constantly. Few women behave badly -> All women are to blame I think people never realize this. I still remember my grandmother (born in 1940) and aunts (born in 1960-1970) claiming how "all men are pigs/just want sex"; these generalizations are nothing new and do not come from one gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:23 PM
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I understand what were you trying to ask, but you asked it in a wrong manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:20 PM
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and the abusers, murderers of women, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:20 PM
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Casey Anthony got proposals from men too. If more women were in prison, men would be writing them, no question. Yeah cause she was physically attractive. Men are honest about that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:18 PM
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I would they're shamed because the last thing a woman wants is to hear explicitly that men don't want them because they're overweight. It's a sensitive topic and likely to provoke defensiveness. Yes, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:41 PM
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It worked for you and that's fine. My take is kinda in the middle: Sure, work a few years on improving yourself and put yourself out there, and if it doesn't work, then just go your own way. I believe some poeple are just never going to find a significant other and that's fine, they should focus on other things in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:33 PM
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I mean to say, men are shamed, made fun of, and called names just because they don't want fat women. That’s probably the only thing a lot of men ask for in a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:30 PM
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No really, is that the standards are frowned upon in society. Literally not being fat is legit the only standard for plenty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:34 PM
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Dunno. It's a cultural thing, hard to explain but I'talked with other people from my country (Mexico) and we all agree. It's not a bad thing and is definitely better than the horror stories I've heard from red states, but it's just doesn't feel genuine. Guess for us just saying something nice doesn't have that much weight compared to doing something for the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:33 PM
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I can definitely see it as an "some places" thing. I've been to the US a few times before around the south california area and this is common. It also feels Inauthentic and superficial AF, but I'd argue most californians there don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:05 AM
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I can definitely see it as a thing for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:01 AM
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Because I don't want to have kids ever in my life. You're also never going to be the priority in that relationship. I'd argue single moms should date single dads, that way they have something huge in common that could actually improve their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:10 PM
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Funny thing they're basically the same, a small portion of men getting all the attention i.e. "there was only 1 guy she was mildly interested" Dating apps are a very faithful reflection of dating dynamics, people just don't like to admit it. If you're a man, stay the FUCK away from dating events, unless you're a top 10% then you're golden, enjoy your constant wave of women willing to sleep with you. Dating was already easy for you before that event anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:41 PM
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I'm sure plenty of women are perfectly fine with men not paying attention to them on the street. As an introverted man, I imagine that kind of attention would be annoying as hell, so I empathize. It has never occurred to me to give unsolicited "compliments" to strangers in public, regardless of gender. Honestly, you're trying way too hard to make this an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:34 PM
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Actual dating. It is that bad, women would never understand that (Just like men don't get women' struggles, the difference is, women's struggle are accepted by society)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:41 PM
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Because they’re the easiest and most cost-effective way to analyze dating dynamics. Avoiding dating apps as a research focus is a weak excuse. I guarantee that if someone studied men approaching women in bars or clubs, the results would be similar: most men would face frequent rejection, while a small fraction would have no trouble finding women who would be willing to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:36 PM
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Damn, that's some excellent mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:23 PM
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They don't. But also when a women say they "know how to choose men" I also know they are lying, because as you said it, there's no way to really know a person, so "be genuinely nice" as an advice to men for finding women to date is as useful as a bike for a fish. At best "fake being nice" is a better (inmoral) advice, of course he also needs to be good looking for it to work. I love how a lot of times women here understand how things work but in indirect ways, still struggle to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:15 PM
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Ah yes, because observing patterns in behavior = "hive mind" Since when does paying attention to reality mean women are a monolith? Or are we just pretending nuance doesn’t exist now to win a gotcha? But hey, if "watch what people do, not just what they say" is a controversial take, maybe I did make your week. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:12 PM
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lmao. Nope, it means I observe their behaviour. It simply means I pay attention to how women react when I say/do something or watch the type of men they sleep (by proximity, I wento to a big college of like 10K students, everybody knew the gossips)😂 You really made my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:48 PM
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I don't. I already said in another thread, you watch what woman do, do not listen to what they say. It's one of the best advices I've heard in my life when it comes to relationships. The times I've heard women trying to give advice is because they want to, and it's always simplistic/poor/not really useful simply because women don't go through the level of loneliness/rejection what men go through. That's why I also shut up when a woman talk about their issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:55 AM
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extremely different. I still remember when I was in college there was this dude who had a lot of social skills issues but he was calm, quiet and polite, even though his social skills weren't the best, people always claim he was polite and overall everybody like him, there were some stories of him asking girls out but they never accepted, all the women would say he was so nice and would make a women lucky some day. The dude never dated or had a girlfriend the 5 years in college. I have him in fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:56 PM
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Best tip I've ever heard was, when it comes to relationships, not to listen to what women say, rather watch how they react. Most of the times what they say tend to have a "feel-good" vibe that comes from how they feel rather than reality. That is not a bad thing, that's why generally women are better parents than men and are better at giving moral support. But you have to understand how it works and when to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:18 PM
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I know, we're both talking about generalizations I guess, better research who commit more feminicide and violence against women and see what % are virgen incels and what % are husbands and boyfriends. That way we can talk hard data and leave feelings aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:47 AM
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Hey if that's how you rationalize it. To me my college budy who cheated, lied and manipulated every girlfriend he hever had it's way worse than the guy who spends his nights in 4chan but hey, different morals I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:23 AM
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Your "luxury vs. desperation" framing actually supports my original argument: women want relationships (even if they're selective), which contradicts the narrative that they’re universally happier single. Abundance of options ≠ disinterest. Antidepressants: You're conflating two truths: Marriage can benefit women’s mental health when the relationship is good. Women are more likely to leave bad marriages because they have better social/financial safety nets than men. This doesn’t prove marriage i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:39 PM
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Not really, but a lot of men are like that. What's the difference between the ones that are attractive to women from those who aren't? You're so close!. Hint: It's not the personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:29 PM
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Let me break this down because there's some serious conflation happening here: Dating:Nobody said women swipe out of misery. Your "full from dinner but want dessert" analogy actually proves my point: dessert is still a want. Women are selective because they value relationships, not because they don't want them. tnidepressants: Yes, women seek help more,but that doesn't erase the data, unmarried women are more likely to be depressed than married women and yes unmarried men die earlier and are mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:29 AM
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You want the harsh truth? It doesn't matter your gender, sex, race, nationality, or anything else, statistically speaking, you are more fulfilled and happy in a loving relationship than single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:59 AM
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Not sure who's saying those things don't matter, but yes, your post make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:55 AM
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Sure, let’s break it down further: Dating apps: Women being picky doesn’t negate the fact that they’re actively seeking relationships. If they were truly content single, they wouldn’t be swiping at all, the "picky" argument just reinforces that women do want relationships: they’re just selective about them (which is fair). Antidepressants: You’re right that menopause and underreported male mental health play roles, but you’re ignoring the broader trend: unmarried women report higher depression r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:37 AM
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Both men and women crave relationships and love. Not having a relationship, for most people, will lead to an unfulfilled life. A lot of people have develop a coping mechanism of "not needing a relationship". That's it. No need to go into a "gender war" in this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:32 AM
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they're mean/bad/shitty to other men, but not to women. I've been expanding on that idea, but the more I analize I realize a lot of the most attractive/sexually successful men behave different with women than with men and that's the reason why men and women believe women find attractive different behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:26 AM
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true, asexuality is a thing aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:37 PM
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You don't "choose to turn to a same-sex relationship" that's not how sexuallity works, unless you're bisexual or gay. Those people were probably bisexuals all along, but are now living in a society that accepts that and they can be more open.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:55 PM
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Oh yeah... if you make a big life decision before 25 (which is when the brain stops developing) it can happen. I guess I was just thinking in my age bracket (30s). Age it's definitely a big footnote to take into consideration. But generally I don't think people should marry/have children before 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:48 PM
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90% probability that dude has a obesity fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:53 PM
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Unless the husband died, single mothers have an absolutely terrible taste for men, it means they can be manipulated and lied to easily (which, if you're an asshole man who just wants sex, it's probably great for you). So, that's a no for me. edit: Another possible expection would be if the person had kids young.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:49 PM
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Women aren't the ultimate moral compass. You can absolutely be a decent men and still be very unsuccessful with women, or you can be a piece of shit and having no issues finding partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:04 PM
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What they say is not the same thing they choose. I'm guessing you're pretty young and don't have a lot of experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:14 PM
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Reading the comments, can't understand where the controversy comes from. Yes, being unsuccesful with women does not mean you're a bad person, I thought that would be something everybody (or at least every man) would agree on, aparenty it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:10 PM
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People are free to have red flags on whatever they want. You may disagree with those things, but that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:08 PM
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73% of femicides globally are committed by intimate partners or family members, not random incels (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/violence-against-women). CDC data shows 41% of women experience severe intimate partner violence (https://www.cdc.gov/intimate-partner-violence/about/index.html). But sure, pretend the danger is exclusively lonely strangers instead of men women actually trust. Your willful ignorance isn’t my homework assignment. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:39 AM
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Your anecdote doesn’t override data but no reason to keep arguing, I’m coming from a statistical perspective, but I get that lived experiences can shape how we see these issues. Personal trauma can make the risks feel more immediate, even if the numbers point elsewhere. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:13 PM
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I'm sure some will. And sex work has been steadily increasing in the last decade, and like my original comment mentioned, a lot of women aren't happy in a relationship, so they're not having sex with men they'are attracted to. So I don't know what to tell you. That's just my predicition based on trends and numbers, I understand if you don't want to believe it, I was just answering your original question based on some data. But I guess at the end we don't know, although you can get a general idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:40 AM
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Oh absolutely. I'm sure most women today won't do it. A few do thought, some even use other names to hide the fact that is prostitution. But again, I'm talking about 10-20 years into the future. Lily Phillips, Annie Knight,etc.. are just the beginning. I'm sure plenty of women like you would probably just be celibate with the occasional sexual relationship with a top 10% men. Women usually handle it better due to their strong social bonds with friends. They probably won't be entirely happy but d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:02 AM
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I'm not talking about cheating. Yes, a small number of violent extremists, including some radicalized incels,have committed horrific acts. However, these cases are statistically extremely rare compared to the broader population of men, even among those who hold misogynistic views. Most men who resent women still don’t turn to terrorism they either stay isolated or find relationships despite their attitudes. The bigger threat to women isn’t involuntary celibates, but men who are sexually and soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:00 AM
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A) Studies show that a significant percentage of married women report higher levels of unhappiness (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9775689/). I’d guess the same trend applies to women in relationships generally. A lot of women aren’t even choosing "the men they actually want" to begin with, and that number will likely grow in the future, whether you blame it on "men being worse partners now" (I’d disagree, but I get why some think that) or other societal shifts. I believe a good percentage wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:47 PM
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Most men who hate and mistreat women, have no issues dating and finding women who are willing to have relationships with them. "in.cels" and other movements will end up killing themselves before hurting other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:07 PM
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If you're in the 10% of attractive men, things will be pretty good. If you're a women, average men, ugly men, etc.. it will probably be more difficult. In another words, just like every other social issue, unless you're in the top %, it will be difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:04 PM
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Basically this. People are attracted to the wrong traits. Yes, even women although they don't really like to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:02 PM
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what makes you believe there's an abundance of good options to choose from? There isn't. I don't care if you're a woman, man, homosexual, heterosexual, etc... Most people suck. Society accepts thats for men but If I say a lot of women aren't worth it, i'll get tagged as a misogynist. Also of those "50 men" that were rejected, some of them were probably decent, good men. Usually women don't like to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:00 PM
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nvm I thought you were asking in good faith. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:02 PM
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I see. Then you are not the demographic to which this question is posed. Because that demography doesn't exist outside Internet trolls. Read all the other comments here, they're pretty similar to my experience. We just mind our own business. We're not terrible creepy monsters (those men don't have issues dating), that's just what a lot of women want to believe to feel better about how they choose their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:28 PM
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Nah, it’s not that deep. If I see a woman cashier, I’ll still go through her line, Im not gonna rearrange my day just to dodge basic interactions. But I’m also not gonna force small talk or linger like I’m expecting something. Same energy as a barista handing me coffee: polite, transactional, and moving on. Honest question, why assume the worst? If a guy isnt going out of his way to interact, it’s not always "avoiding." Sometimes it’s just... not engaging. Do you think men owe women their attent…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:29 AM
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Probably cause they fell in love, and that's one extremely strong feeling that makes you do dumb shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:58 AM
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I guess when men say we avoid, It’s not about "avoiding" like some weird grudge. If you’ve spent years being ignored/looked through, you stop going out of your way to interact. Why would I seek connections where I’m not wanted? I’m not bitter, I’m efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:31 AM
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It's fairly easy, if you're unattractive you're invisible to women, so just I don't talk to them unless is necesary, I just do whatever im going to do lol. What did you expected us to do? Hating women, make faces whenever I see one and change sidewalks if I see one walking towards me? I just keep doing what I went to do initially whenever I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:24 AM
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I’m not judging people who enjoy casual relationships, you do you. But for my own long-term partnership, I’ve found I’m most compatible with someone who sees sex as something that grows with emotional commitment. This isn’t about morality, it’s about shared values. Same reason why the overwhelming majority of women aren't attracted to idea of men paying for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:31 AM
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No way in hell man, ask a doctor. For starters the amount of testosterone in men's body is basically what makes us exponentially way hornier than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:09 PM
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The difference on libidos will forever be the cause of the issue. The average women will never have the same libido as the average men and it's a losing game for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:39 PM
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You’re describing bad dating experiences, not disproving my point. The issue isn’t that "no normal men act poorly", its that women blame men’s dating struggles on moral flaws ("you’re single because you’re shallow/desperate") while ignoring the role of attraction and options. The virgin you dated still got a chance because he passed some baseline of appeal (looks, charm, etc...) meanwhile, men who lack that but want the same things (sex, love, connection), get labeled as "creeps" or "thirsty" fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:35 PM
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You’re missing my point. The men women complain about (non-committal, sex-focused) are usually the attractive ones with options. The men who can’t get dates aren’t necessarily worse people—they’re just less desired, women often rationalize this by saying, ‘You’re single because you’re shallow/selfish/pervy,’ when in reality, those same ‘flaws’ are overlooked in men who are hotter. Wanting sex and attraction in a relationship is normal for everyone. The difference is that high-option men get away…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:24 PM
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Those men are the attractive ones who tend to use women for their sexual needs because they have a pletora of options. The men that women date and the men who can't get one women interested, are different demographics. Most women don't grasp that fact and instead try to rationalize it. (i.e. you're not a good man so women aren't attracted to you) OP's thread is another example. Wanting to have a healthy sex life with a person you find attractive is a completey normal thing. Does not make you a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:20 AM
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It happens, but here's the thing, you don't want a relationship with those type of women. You just don't realize it. It's usually the type of women who does not do much on the relationship and expect the men to do everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:47 PM
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you'd have to think these people recognize their own positions they usually don't which is my point, but feel like there's no point on keep arguing and we're just repeating the same. But thanks for your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:47 PM
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Fair enough. Sometimes it is but not always.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:45 PM
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I mean we would be arguing experiences at this point, which is pointless, but as a man can tell you in the real world plenty women believe that "personality is all that matters" crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:45 PM
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I mean... yes? We men don't have issues accepting that, we're pretty straightforward about what makes women attractive to us... "don't be overweight, take care of your body", we are aware how important physicial appereance is. If a woman is crazy but hot plenty of men would accept that, we don't pretend personality is the most important to get a relationship. That's not the case with women at least in average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:16 PM
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Yeah, you'd think that. But it's more complicated than that. I guess would be fair to say a small percentage of people are the ones aware of that, most people are highly emotional when talking about these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:04 PM
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That's true, nothing you say really contradicts what I said. Just saying not being attractive to women doesn't automatically means you're not a good, decent man, women aren't always attracted to virtuous men, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:59 PM
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Disagree. What do all my friends and acquaintances who are succesful with women have in common? They usually don't think very highly of women. It's one of those things most women don't realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:38 PM
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You're right, I may have conflated the two ideas somewhat, but my core argument is about the disconnect between what women claim to find attractive vs what actually drives attraction in practice. This isn’t about blaming women, its about acknowledging that attraction isn’t purely rational or fairness-based. Physical appearance, confidence even if unearned, and social proof often outweigh "good qualities" in the early stages of dating, that’s why the "single mom" jab landed: it highlights how att…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:31 PM
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Not at all, I've meet men who are cheaters, alcoholics and overall shitty people but manage to date the most beautiful/successful women just because they're attractive and have somehow decent social skills, because I do believe those are important aswell, althought again, not as important as women make them out to be. As long as you don't have autistic-level social skills and are physicially good-looking, you'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:28 PM
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Yeah, I agree with your take
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:27 PM
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Never said it isn't important, just not as important as women make it out to be. Althought to be fair, it's a subconscious thing, is not like people do it on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:26 PM
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For example, one of my friends from college has his phone full of porn, drinks a lot, and used to love visiting strip clubs and escorts. Yet, he’s never had issues finding women to date and is now engaged. Women often believe that men who haven’t had sexual success are unattractive because it aligns with their sense of fairness, but the truth is, men like my friend have no trouble dating women. Actually, another way to put it would be: women are often attracted to the wrong " attractive qualitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:05 AM
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Its a very popular just cause fallacy plenty women have. In fact respecting/treating women right has not a big corelation with being succesful with women. As a meme I once read said "If being a good responsible man made you attractive to women, there wouldn't be any single mothers in society"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:59 AM
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Respect whenever a women admits the whole "personality is the most importan thing" is gaslighting shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:54 AM
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Nice to see women seeing too. I've worked with plenty smart, hard-working absolutely succesful women, not one of them are this obssesed on showing what they wear, maybe except if they bond a friendship with me or other women, but other than that's crazy inappropiate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:57 PM
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Probably covert narcisism. I remember reading social networks have play a significant role in people narcisism. Also that's not appropiate at all, I won't be surprised is she has a OF. But I'd agree "angry" is definitely a strong feeling, just let them do their thing while their coworkers actually focus on doing the actual work in the workplace, I hope she doesn't complain about the pay gap anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:55 PM
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Oh, so you think women are devalued for having sex I don't believe anything, that's how society see it because that's how it works. Is it fair? No. I also don't think is fair a lot of man can't live a healthy sexual life because they may not be attractive enough for most women, or that other men have to put an insane amount of effort just get some sense of a basic sex life while a minority of men don't have to do much to be attractive to women, but that's how things work men are devalued for hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:33 AM
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Again, different takes on sex. Having tons of sex with different women for men is difficult, time-consuming, not something every man can do, and usually conveys that the man has one/several good trait/s (good-looking, excelent social skills, has a lot of money, is extremely succesful at something, etc...) Having tons of sex with different men it's probably one of the easiest thing a woman can do in her life. I'm sure some women would find that type of men "unattractive" just like some men want p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:12 AM
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Relationships are not job postings, stop making those dumb comparisons. You're looking for an emotional conection when dating, people expect that in return if the other person is interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:55 AM
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Same reason why women complain about "dating shitty men". Regardles of your sex or gender being in a relationship is one of the most important goals in a person's life. Of course plenty people gave up and still complain because they don't have literally one of the most important things in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:52 AM
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Different takes on dating, by women's standard is not successful, because having tons of date options is the default for women. Could it be that he enjoys sleeping/dating with a lot of women. If that's the case he's successful in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:12 PM
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Best advice I've ever seen about women: Watch what they do, don't listen to what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:11 PM
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When it comes to raising my kids, I believe not even 50/50 is enough... you need 100/100.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:40 PM
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They may not be American, but I had a few acquaintances from university (graduated in 2015) who definitely ended up in relationships like that. Granted, not all of them, but a non-insignificant portion did. I'm from México, so that may be why, traditional realtionships are still a common thing specially in rural areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:19 PM
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We don't care under certain circumstances, the issue is that those circumstances are not always met and the man is obliged to pay regardles of them. I don't have any issue paying child support if: The kid is biologically mine, beyond any shadow of a doubt. I can visit him, the women is not seen as superior than me in the eyes of the law OR at least have shared custody. And 3, optional because I know it's difficult, but if there was a way to prove that the money is 100% spent on the kid's needs. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:59 PM
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As a man I believe this is way more effective way to weed out bad women, just go on free/simple dates. The trash will take itself out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:08 PM
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Respect for honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:07 PM
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Hide it? But women know how to choose good men! they surely sense if he's trying to hide it. Or you know, women don't really know how to choose good decent partners...which is my point(Just like men do aswell, however that's socially more accepted)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:59 AM
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It is aswell. If you can't see it, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:57 AM
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Exactly, people make bad decisions. Whether you are decent or not is irrelevant to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:56 AM
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I mean, yeah, being ugly makes it difficult to find a partner. The point is being attractive does not equal being a decent person. Women like to that that it does. If women only choose decent men things like abuse, cheating and single motherhood won't exist or at least won't be as high as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:54 AM
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Giving the amount of men who cheat and physically abuse women, I'd say that the men who know how to pretend to have an emotional conection do better. I'd agree with you on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:53 AM
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Yeah the problem is that I worded the title wrong, I should have not said "good and attractive". Men who are attractive will get snapped quickly, but that does not mean they are "good men".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:15 AM
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Not really, women tend to prioritize other things (I do believe you do it unconsciously), being nice or good is irrelevant. [1]The importance of physical attractiveness and ambition/intelligence to the mate choices of women and their parents [2]...Whereas fertile-phase women were particularly sexually attracted to men perceived as arrogant, intrasexually confrontative, muscular and physically attractive, no cycle shifts were observed in women's attraction to men seen to be successful financially…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:40 PM
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I mean the point of my original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:39 PM
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Oh, you probably didn't meant that but I actually agree with you. My whole point is being a decent, good man does not actually make you attractive so yeah. The only difference between the "late bloomers whoe are steeped in misogyny and conspiracy theories." and the 24 yo who has had several failed relationships is that the second is good looking, that's way more important for women than "how good a man is" But they can absolutely be both shitty men, and being shitty/decent is irrelevant to their…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:02 PM
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Oh my bad, english is my second language so I probably didn't make myself clear. That's the point: being attractive does not equal being a decent men, It says right here lol. sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:56 PM
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Oh sure, that's better for everybody. That's not my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:54 PM
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Nope. I'm saying being a decent men and treating you partner properly is not something that a lot of women care as much as they say they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:54 PM
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The argument that being good is not equal to be attractive to women? Domestic violence would be non-existent, there won't be divorces since they are good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:51 PM
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They dont' always going to be snatched because is not something women care. Sometimes a man happen to be good looking and a good man. Sometimies he's good looking but not a good man. Dude, I just shared some studies that show how women find other things attractive. You obviously don't care, I don't think there's a reason why we should keep arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:50 PM
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Could be. If anything it'll make sense why younger generations of men are more aware of this issue, younger women tend to look for wrong things in partners (Just like men do, but society doesn't have an issue accepting that)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:39 PM
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No, women look for other things (I do believe they do it unconsciously), being nice or good is irrelevant. [1]The importance of physical attractiveness and ambition/intelligence to the mate choices of women and their parents [2]...Whereas fertile-phase women were particularly sexually attracted to men perceived as arrogant, intrasexually confrontative, muscular and physically attractive, no cycle shifts were observed in women's attraction to men seen to be successful financially, intelligent or …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:36 PM
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What proof you have that good and attractive men would marry young? Do you want me to have proof of something that I claim doesn't happen? Domestic violence would be non-existent, there won't be divorces since they are good men. Those things don't exist I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:35 PM
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I think we're in the middle ground. I agree it doesn't matter for getting into relationships, and can be a bigger issue for LTR. The problem is, plenty men can't get into a relationships because that don't matter, however people keep telling them it matters. That's gaslighting. that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:33 PM
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Yeah. But my point is that's not relevant for women when looking for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:31 PM
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Ah, I see your point. Yes being a good man can make you a good partner. But that's not something women care or look mostly in relationships or they think the look for it but are terrible at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:30 PM
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Being attractive yes, being "good" is irrelevant. If that was the case male-to-female domestic violence and abuse wouldn't be a common thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:27 PM
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Being attractive != being a good man. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:25 PM
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That's irrelevant. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:24 PM
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Sure. I think, for the most part, women are not some sort of holy gender (which, funny enough, I think is a way of putting them on a pedestal). They tend to be attracted to the wrong things (just like men are as well). However, the inability to admit this is gaslighting men into thinking there might be something wrong with them. I think there are men who fit the description you're talking about but are still unsuccessful with women, just as I believe there are abusers who don’t struggle with wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:23 PM
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I'm mostly replying to the (very) few women in here that don't see it. I agree with most men in here and mostly agree with you, but I think it would have been better if I tag this question as "question for women" since I realize most men agree with me in some way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:03 PM
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Men who are attractive do stay off the market quickly, whether those attractive men are "good" or "bad", is totally random. Another data you could use is the % of domestic violence in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:02 PM
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Attractive men will be off the market, whether those attractive men are "good" or "bad", is totally random. I'm not arguing that attractive men aren't attractive, but rather than being decent is irrelevant. You could also use the % of domestic violence in relationships, but I thought that would make people uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:01 PM
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I agree but I don't think having good looks makes you good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:54 PM
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I mean... yes? I thought it was common knowledge. I had no idea this was a controversial topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:08 PM
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Regardles of gender, newer generations lack responsability and like to play victims, because that's what we've taught the last decade or so in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:53 PM
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It's not a flex. It's how things work. Is it cool? Nope. I Don't think women discarding men simply because they didn't go to college is cool either. That's the way things work. Yes, I've also talked with my female friends about the girls I go out with about things they want to know. I don't tell them I dated a women cause I thought she was hot or had a great body because I'd immediately get shit from them, so of course is things women say matter (career, work, hobbies) Or also could it be that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:41 PM
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"Split" grociers and other stuff is not "being a provider". Of course most men care if a woman helps with money, but is not the same as having a "career". We mostly don't care if you have a highschool diploma but making 30k a year and helping with money, around the house or adding anything of value to the relationship, we don't care if is not money, we will help with the that. Women with careers seldom date a men with only a high school diploma and if they are the main provider most women will r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:45 PM
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Not really. Attractiveness is definitely more objective than women here think, BUT that doesn't mean is not subjective. Most women think if you're unattractive, there'll always be a woman out there who will find you attractive; Which it is technically true, but if you're really unattractive it's probably going to be 1 in 500,000. That doesn't mean there aren't women out there who like chubby/short/ugly men, it just means your chances at finding a women who will find you attractive in that state …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:04 AM
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Except a women being a provider is not something most men care, nor something most women do willingly, so is not the huge trade-off that you think it is for men. It all comes down to women and men wanting different things in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:53 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:13 PM
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No, that's not attractive to me. But good luck getting a real answer to her body count. You can totally ask, and if she's ok, gives you the honest answer and she's still confortable with you and the relationship, then good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:01 PM
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Honestly curious to all women believing this, why do you think divorce rates in couples in their 20s are the highest? Shouldnt marry young lead to permanent marriages? However the younger the person are the most likely to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:34 PM
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Like the other comment said, men learn how difficult/lonely life is in their teens/mid-20s depending if they're unattractive/poor/physical or mentally impaired, we already had time to process it (and they ones that couldn't are no longer alive, that's why suicide rates are higher in men). Also women tend to develop higher levels of anxiety and depression, again because the men who developed that are not longer alive. It's a type of "survivorship bias" Also, dating experience is vastly different …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:26 PM
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Sure, if you want to waste time in a relationship like that I guess it's not pointless to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:19 PM
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Hey feel free to ask women about their body count when you're starting to date. You're free to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:18 PM
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You're absolutely free to do that and look for girls that would be ok with you asking those types of questions about their sexual past in the first dates. I just think is pointless to do it, but you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:03 AM
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Sure you can ask when you're start dating just like a man can ask for a women's body count when they first start dating. Personally I'd just stay away from any potential partner asking question about your sexual past regardles of your gender, to me it feels weird. But you're totally free to do it, we just focus on different things in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:26 PM
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Your sexual past is not your partners' business outside STD checks. If you feel entitled to it well... we're looking for different types of people in relationships, which is fine. Personally I don't think is healthy, at least I hope you're consistent and aren't bothered by men asking women's body count, which is equally pointless but some men do it aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:49 PM
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Yep. Your sexual past is not your partner's business, beyond STD questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:45 PM
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This is basically the same as "Men, would you date a woman who was promiscous?" It's fine if you don't, I'm sure most women will replay with a no, but realistically speaking, there's no way to know it. Unless you ask on the first date "Have you ever pay for sex?" and expect an honest answer. The truth is, plenty of you (at least out there in the real world lol) are dating promiscous women/men who paid for sex, you probably just don't know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:29 PM
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This is going to devolve to men vs women suffering circle-jerking. How is this thread still up? I understand mods removing this comment, but at least considering closing the entire thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:44 PM
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Yes, is a just-world fallacy thing that a lot of people like to think, specially women, although men do it every now and then. I've had plenty female friends, some of them helped me "fix" my dating profile. They were still shocked when I had 1 match in months. And it's not just me, is quite common. I was going to post a series of reddit threads of men having the same experience but the stupid adminbot deletes your comments if you have a link to another subreddit. And most of the other points are…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:28 PM
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Let me guess you wrote having a female friend helping you somewhere there right? edit: Lmao never fails to amuse me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:57 AM
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This one is complex and most people do it, women and men alike. The value of "manhood" comes from how good a man is with women. That's why "incel" or "you've never made a women cum" are used as an insult. Imagine making fun of women because they don't know how to give a blowjob. Like I said, it's a complicated issue that only a sociologist could give you ideas of how to tackle it, but I definitely think it's a factor that's affecting men's mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:08 PM
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You believe that if Henry Cavill smelled like shit, gained 100 lbs, and verbally abused women, not a single woman would reject him because of these things? A few yes, a lot no. Matthew McConaughey, Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp all actors that have a fame of being unhygienic and abusers. They had no issues with women finding them attractive. No, what it comes down to is women saying "I like this" and red pillers screaming "NO THIS STUDY SAYS YOU LIKE THIS! STOP VIRTUE SIGNALLING!" What is also always i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:34 PM
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The trick here, is that what women say is attractive is not the same to what they find attractive i.e. A man that looks like Henry Cavill would still get laid even if he doesn't shower, exercises, has a bad personality, etc... This issue always comes down to most women not being honest (I legit believe they think they are being honest). There are not a lot of ways to make you attractive if you weren't born attractive on the first place. Is good advice but it's really not as important as you make…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:08 PM
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I'm not a psychologist, but I've always think abusers know they're doing something wrong, that's why they hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:58 PM
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It's just-world fallacy. Extremely popular with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:16 PM
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Very important. I go to the gym 4x a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:15 PM
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No, but men are honest about it, that's why the "no overweight" women is a common thing, generally, we're honest with what we want (physically attractive women)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:13 PM
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It's all about the subtext. Yes, women are attracted to men with options, if you don't have options most women will lose attraction to you. The thing is, you can't do it directly, as most things with women you need to be extremely careful about how you do things (the main reason why dating women is extremely more difficult than dating men) Yes, having tons of women wanting you will make you more attractive to your girlfriend/wife. But if you actually go out with those women, she can lose attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:29 PM
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"Fake nice guys" are "bad boys" just minus the looks. It depends on what you want, but I still think "bad boys" are better, they have more experience and are just more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:01 PM
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The entire just-world logic women have behind this is "being good = attractive to women" this is not true, and really there's no way to convince the women of that. Being aggresive and having questionable standards makes a man more attractive. You're entire premise is based in flawled just-world logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:40 AM
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It probably just means to learn to control your feelings. I started cognitive conductual therapy a few weeks ago and I can't shake the feeling that that's what they meant with stoicism. Basically mindfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 10:00 PM
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Looks like this is one where all genders agree on. Op is just weird, which is fine, probably she'll eventually date some weird dude out there who will be fine with her weirdness as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:55 PM
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Kinda sick of this kind of thinking. It's okey to start a first relationship at any age. You're probably going to trip over a few times but your past does not dictate your future.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:03 AM
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From what I've seen having a lot of female friends, yeah they do. But they don't really like admiting, women would very seldom being honest about these type of things. For women is the non-threat/dangerous complex. If a women ever creates a really deep friendship with you, and think of you as "a nice guy / really quiet / not traditionally masculine / soft / emotional/ a sorta female friend", you're done. She's never going to see you as a potential partner. That's why if you like a women you shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:00 AM
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Yep. As usual men are the ones who get penalized more harsh when it comes to everything related to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:55 AM
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Cause it is terrible for everybody and extremely unsafe for women. OP is probably just baiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:54 AM
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Yes, that's why I said is not the most important thing in a relatinship. Like I said I'd never date a unemployed girl with middleschol education.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:52 AM
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Always love these threads because it's always a gender thinking the opposite gender think the same as them. No, for most men having a "healthy" relationship it's definitely a good thing. For a lot of women the having that would be an issue, even unconsciously most of the times.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:33 PM
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Yes, don't go to those things either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:45 PM
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Don't know a lot about her but I'd take your word for it. She obviously bieng physically different is absolutely a disadvantage when finding partner, even then (probably not as bad as a man in her situation) but she's not the average. Yeah the people in that categories may have a slight disadvantage compared to the average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:17 PM
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Yes, obviously physicial appereance matter too, men are honest about it. Also don't know who that was but after googling the first result mention he has a story of dating a few men, like I said, women with no options aren't common.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:05 PM
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This is one of those differences in gender that people just don't grasp. A man with no options is NOT attractive to women, that's why a lot of married men say they feel more attractive to women than when they were single. A women with no options (not that they are common) would be more attractive to men. Exclusivity is attractive to men (that's why a women with no sexual past is often attractive), it is not attractive for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:45 PM
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Yeah, if you're good looking, cold approach works for having short-term relationships/hook ups. It's just not for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:25 AM
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Fair enough. Use dating apps, expect running into bad first dates as part of the experience and men not understanding your struggle. Life isn't fair. It happens the same when men complaing about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:04 PM
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Fair enough. Ditch online dating as well. If you're going to do those types of dating, yes, there's no way you can 'vet better', but that's exactly why you should stay away from it. It comes with the territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:00 PM
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How would you vet people before dating them? I was assuming you were friends with that person beforehand? If you only date cold aproaches, then that's your problem and you'd need to change who you date. Men who are successful at cold approaches are usually the top men who don't lack female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:47 PM
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I actually know men who started relationships like that, however the men were extremely good looking and the relationships were short-lived, so make sense that woman don't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:42 PM
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Most people, regardless of gender or sex want that. If you only date men who want to use you... vet better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:41 PM
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I think generally speaking, regardless of gender and sex, a lot of people are awful at vetting, and they'd ignore the wrong things as long as they feel "the butterflies". My issue with this is that society kinda put women on pedestals when choosing partners (i.e 'women care about personality and charm, men are pigs who only care for a pretty face') when in reality women are as bad as men when choosing a partner. My controversial take is that women are normal humans full of flaws that alot of tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:55 PM
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Fair enough. My comment was aimed at men interested on dating. Cold approach is not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:49 PM
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Dating apps are also dying out. And good for that too. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/nov/28/gen-z-breaking-up-with-dating-apps-ofcom But I see the confusion, just edited my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:31 PM
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Man here. From men's POV cold approach is terrible as well. Unless you look like Henry Cavill is 90% guarantee failure (and if you are that good loking, you DON'T need cold approach, just try... whatever the fuck you feel like trying, you're good looking: go to a class, the gym, a bar, ask a friend to introduce you somebody, it literally doesn't matter, as long as you don't have autistic-level social skills, you will find women who are attracted to your "personality and charm"). Also It takes a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:06 PM
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Of course not! but there are predispositions and patterns that are easy to observe. But yeah, there always going to be outliers. That's why I said "generally".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:01 PM
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Cause this is a complex issue that gets simplify a lot. Is not as simple as "not caring at all" and "the most important thing in a relationship". For example, I do care that a woman is able to support herself, able to pay bills, have some savings and overall be a working woman. I don't really care if she's "equal" to me or that she's "passionated" about work (there are most important things in life than work lol), how she makes me feel with myself and how we spend time together it's more importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:53 PM
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I've seen that "tip" before in other subreddits and I hate it because one of two things would happen: 1.- You get rejected every single time. That's because you "tried too hard" and are "desperate". 2.- You get one date. "See? All you needed to do is trying more!" It really useless other that confirming what the other person thinks of you, either it was your fault because you didn't tried enough, or it is your fault cause you're desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:42 PM
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Unless you look like Henry Cavill, cold approach is not worth it. As a man, I do think society ditching cold aproach is a change for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:36 PM
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Hyperbolic mentality is what causing division. Yeah, part of it is the stats and studies; but if studies didn't exist personal experiences would take their place. And I do believe when we have several studies reaching similar conclusions, they're not as "incorrect" as you think. A lot of studies basically mess with people's cognitive bias' so it's also normal that they're difficult to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:03 AM
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A lot of women care about standard of living. A lot of men dont. If she's fun to be around we'll stick. We don't care about everything else. It's the way life works. The redpill (or one pill cant remember which one) says "Modern women want traditional masculine men but don’t wanna be traditionally feminine woman" and that is 100% true. It's one of those thing you have to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:30 PM
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I have a acquaintance from college who is an introverted. He isn't friend with almost nobody. But we ended up working together for a professor's project. He has absolutely no problem with women, cause he's good looking. I literally saw him get a FWB after the girl asked for his phone. How many guys here know a guy with no friends that doesn't struggle with women? I bet a fair share of you do. My point is: Social skills while useful, they're not as useful as people, even women, make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:07 PM
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Is because usually women have terrible ways of judging men. Yes, we men do too, but women believe they care about personality and sense of humor. I do genuinely believe you think you do, is a cognitive dissonance than most women have. When I say choose better I mean change the standards you have. This however, will always lead to the same discussions: Women are better than men and they actually don't care about looks. You aren't better. Women can be as superficial and dumb as we men are when cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:01 PM
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IIRC unattractive women are more ok with cheating. Going back to my college years, most of my "chad" friends had mid/unattractive FWB and attractive girlfriends, it was kinda crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:57 PM
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Yeah, that's why murderers and criminals have no success with women. Don't know why is so hard to accept for women. Being nice or likeable have nothing to do with how sexually successful you are. So yeah a "nice" guy complaining about not getting lucky makes sense but Chris Watts having a wife and a mistress and having another mistress while he's in jail, also made sense. Women always ignore the other side of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:53 PM
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I'd rephrase it to "being likeable is not related to your sexual attractiveness" but a lot of people would have issues with that despite being common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:48 AM
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Sure, sorry about that, I'm stating the fact that criminals don't have issues finding women to date, being a "decent" man isn't as important as people make it out to be to find a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:42 AM
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IIRC, the difference isn't actually that big, like 4-5 years? If somebody has the study that'd be great. Yes, if you're focusing in quantity alone 5 years more sounds great.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:52 PM
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That is correct, abnormal men can be sexually succesful, my point is usually using that "virgin" metric to conclude that the men would be a good partner is not as good as women make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:38 PM
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Finding a decent man. Ah sure, it's a deviation from the statistical societal norm. I just that isn't as bad as women make it out to be. But at the end of the day we're all free to have our standards when choosing a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:15 PM
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It’s not a good metric for what? For finding a decent partner. Read my example again. You seems to have an issue undesrtanding why somebody being a virgin is not as bad as women make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:14 PM
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Sure, we're discussing how bad of a metric it is. Not criminality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:10 PM
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Sure, maybe a man is virgin because he's awkard and doesn't have good conversation skills, so women aren't attracted to him, maybe he's boring and has no social skills, which most women are too aswell, maybe he would make a good partner for a boring, socially akward woman. The toxic/manipulative guy who has cheated every single girlfriend he's ever had however has no issues finding somebody to date. It's not a good metric, you believe is a good metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:08 PM
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Most criminals are outside the societal norms and still find women to date/marry. My point being a virgin is not a good metric, you believe is a good metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:07 PM
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Point still stands: It's not a great metric. Would you agree criminals also deviate from social norms? They mostly have no issues finding women to date/marry. It's another metric that doesn't make a lot of sense if you look at the amount of women in toxic relationships with violent/manipulative man, and is just women justifying their belief systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:01 PM
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There is nothing "off" per se. Women perceive it as something "off". Ted Bounty wasn't a virgin and was one of the most succesful serial killers in America. Chris Watts even had a lover when he was with his wife. Not having sexual success does not mean something is "off" with you, a lot of women like to think that way because in her eyes the best way to judge a man is how many women have sleep with him. I'll bet you most awkard virgin men that can't even talk on the phone aren't as dangerous as …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:42 PM
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It's called Survivorship bias. If that was the case every rapist/murdered/criminal would be a virgin. Women just like to link those two things because they think is a good selection method.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:36 PM
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Women link sexual success with being a "normal" man. Ingore the fact that most criminals have no issues finding woman to date, it's some sort of cognitive dissonance women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:33 PM
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Because it goes against the women-are-wonderful belief of women being better than men because they are attracted only to deep, complex things like personality unlike men who are just so shallow. They justify it with mental health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:39 PM
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Basically why this and "body count" conversation is largely pointless... people aren't open to their sex lives like this. It's completely fine to have those standards, just don't expect your partner to talk about it openly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:26 PM
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Most mature answer here. Generally speaking hyperbole thinking is one of the most damaging ideologies nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:25 PM
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Gen z women are not dating as much either, but they're still dating more than men. For every 1 male that isn't in a relationship... Isn't there (approximately) 1 woman who is single too? Why the focus on only on the males? Because that's not how it works, women generally don't grasp or don't like to accept it but usually the most attractive, powerful men are sleeping/dating with several women at the same time, for example, the crazies story I've heard was a college friend that dated a married ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:13 PM
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If they wife was 100% dedicated to the house and family, I'd say that's mostly fine. I don't should be "long-life", i.e if she's been working for a year or gets remarried, means she could do fine by herself and doesn't need her ex husband to help her anymore, but that'd be a conversation for later time. BTW isn't this basically alimoney? which again I'm mostly ok if the woman was 100% dedicated to the house and the amounts weren't so ridiculously high in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 10:39 PM
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Then I'd say the same about women who don't want a prenup: Stay away from those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 10:35 PM
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Always interesting the cultures of the people writing here. I started working at 18 and investing at around 22. The fact people have "nothing" when they get married is crazy to me. Maybe 3 decades ago sure, but nowadays? damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 10:34 PM
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Anecdotes are also not the only basis of discussion If you use things like studies, people discard it as easy based on their anecdotes. This is why discussion is basically pointless here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:35 PM
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Well, at least you are congruent. I can respect that. But at least you should see why others have problems with it. You could understand why black people are critics of racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:30 PM
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It would be sexist to assume that she's got bad intentions only for the gender. If I have 100 000 cash I'd pick the bear over any person of any gender, race or nationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:11 PM
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Yeah but even there people don't do it. Funny enough the ones who attended to those events were women mostly. IIRC the no men go to singles event happens everywhere, and with good reason, is basically paying to get rejected 100 times
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:09 PM
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If you had $100 000 cash, would you rather some random person or a black bear notice you with it? The bear 100%. But what bothers so much people is the misandry behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:05 PM
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Yeah, I think sadly it would be too late before government realizes what they have to do. I remember reading like a decado ago in Japan young people would get monetary compensation for going to singles event but it was too little too late, Japan is always one step in the future even when it comes to social problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:25 PM
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I understand what you're trying to do, but most women date and marry. I'm sure a minority aren't interested on dating/marrying and that's ok too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:24 PM
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You talking about third places, those are disappearing aswell and the few ones that exist aren't used for dating anymore since that's frowned upon, except maybe bars and clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:29 PM
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People in general are dating less. 4B movement as most Internet movements are a minority. You need to go outside a little bit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:27 PM
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I mean sure they can do it, but those "internet" movements aren't real life. There's a reason why you probably haven't meet a lot of "in.cels" in real life. They're a minority. Most women are still dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:26 PM
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Yes, what you're describing is know in one pill (can't remember which one, is it the blue?) as "Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks". And as most concepts in all pills, it is grounded in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:17 PM
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People are scared of IRL interactions. Search "men vs bear", most women don't trust men, this has made it way more difficult to even ask a women out, a lot of men just don't do it anymore. Not trying to blame specifically somebody, we're all contributing to this culture, I'm just stating how things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:15 PM
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Women don't like to be told the truth point blank, they're more emotional in that way. Yes, I do understand women feel ofended and have emotional negative responses against the "shitty" man here. They're usually not having negative responses to shitty liying men irl tho lol, they're having relationships with those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:49 PM
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They're not good people, I agree with you. But being a decent man is not important when dating women, the meaner the man the more succesful with women he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:29 PM
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Dude, I'm 34 and myspace was a thing when I was like 15
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:26 PM
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I think dating apps are dying because for the vast majority of men, they yield little to no results, and for women, I remember reading genz and younger just find it too unsafe to meet strangers to date. Fine by me, I do think they play a HUGE role on damaging men's mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:17 PM
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No, is everywhere in here, OP is basing his idea on "women dropinig out of dating" on this https://www.ft.com/content/b0862016-e225-427e-88c9-4825c2c56000
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:14 PM
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Not really, they're not dating somebody from their social circle, they're usually dating an outsider who was introduced by somebody in their social circle. Happened to me a few times when I was in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:55 AM
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So, I just read the link you posted about women dropping out of dating apps, which is true, dating apps are dying, and thank god for that. But that doesn't mean they are dropping out of the dating market. What do I think of the women that do it? Same thing I think about the men that are also dropping out the dating market: Nowadays a lot of people just aren't decent potential partners, and that goes for both genres, so people find dropping out is best for their mental health. If they're happy go…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:50 AM
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Yes, most women's dating profiles are also really bland and boring aswell. But women don't get penalized as much by being average or boring, because dating and relationships are exponentially more difficult for men that is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:13 PM
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Hard disagree, I believe women are human just like men, and even if they deliberatley seek men, social relationships are a difficult issue and they can lack experience or have emotional issues when that can make them choose poorly a partner. I have the controversial take that women can be flawed aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:24 PM
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Yes, a lot of men aren't rational either. That's an accepted fact in society. Just saying a lot of women are equally as awful when choosing a partner. That fact is not as widely accepted in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:19 PM
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I once read "Men put women on pedestals, women put relationships on pedestals". And ever since I realize how true that is, like how most women judge the entire potential of a relationship on the first kiss. This is being amplified extremely by social networks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:15 PM
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Being a decent, good men is not as important as women make it out to be, yes that is true, but you'll seldom hear women admiting that beacuse: 1.- A lot of women believe they are morally better at choosing partner ("i.e. Men just want sex, I just want a decent men"). That idea absolutely destroys this. 2.- There's a just-world fallacy belief that a lot of people have and is extremely difficult to get rid of, men and women. 3.- Actually I complete understand women in this reason: Admiting being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:25 PM
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As most social problems (racism, women's right to abortion, inequality, poverty) it's the result of A LOT of variables, however men's lonelinesse epidemic is the only social issue where people still claim "is nobody's fault"/"nothing we can do".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:18 AM
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It's okey to be vulnerable with women who legit love you, like your mom or sisters or a wive you've been married for 20 years, but even then, I'd advice to instead go with a professional (i.e. Therapist) Plenty women will lose the attraction the moment you're start opening too much, the thing is "too much" is a unknown variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:16 AM
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Cuck fetish has been on the rise, so not "all men" (I never said that generalization) but plenty men yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:14 AM
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I mean yeah... the cuck fetish is a real thing plenty of men have. Not the gotcha moment you think it is lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:19 AM
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You're underestimating the power of awareness my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:11 PM
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Having a preference on promiscuity has nothing to do with religion or conservative values; It's about character and how it adds nothing to your character. The thing women don't understand is that for a women having sex is the easiest thing in life. You have to do absolutely nothing to get it. If you are promiscous it's not surprising, or difficult, it doesn't mean you're interesting, fun, charming, intellgent, have money or a good person, just means you're a woman with basic social skills. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:31 PM
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As a man, I'm with women on this one. Being married is literally what most people, men and women, want. Most people actively look for it and achieve it, and they are considerable more happy than single people. A lot of men are starting to believe that "you can be happy single" bs that a lot of extreme feminist created. Yes you can be happy single but in average you'll not be as happy as if you were married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:24 PM
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Except you'd hear it from all women themselves. It'd be good for your mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:14 PM
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Sure but a lot of men men would learn and accept that their looks is the reason why is hard to get a relationship instead of gaslighting them and make them believe is something else. From men's mental health, it would be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:02 AM
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I'm sure, same thing could be say about personality or basically everything that makes attraction it's all varying and depends on the mood, but looks are one of the most important and the first one we notice regardless of sex or gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:58 AM
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I've always said it and I 100% believe if all women were as honest as you about physical attraction, the dating world would be very different. Props to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:16 PM
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English is my second language. How would you call when somebody approaches in a low voice, kinda awkardly in a shy way? That's how I've seen quiet often women do it. My point is, women's social skills aren't any better than men. Bad social skills usually means bad luck at finding a partner if you're being actively searching.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:06 PM
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I'm sorry not getting it, you think these girls who are approaching people for help in quiet manners are doing it because somehow the other person, who sometimes is also a woman, is trying to pick them up?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 10:47 PM
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Firstly, women libido isn't as high as men, that's a big one. They don't feel like looking for a partner as intensely as men. Secondly, fear of rejection. If the average women would go through the level of rejection the average men goes through, women's mental health would be way worse. I literally see women at the gym not knowing how to use machines and asking for help in very shy and quiet manners, sometimes can't even hear them due to how low their voices are. A lot of women aren't as mentall…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 10:40 PM
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Yes I know, no woman here is ever toxic and all the men here are good and decent, somehow.🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:04 PM
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Part of it is our libido is exponentially higher than women's. Another part of it is the feeling of protect somebody is also engrained on our DNA. Also, in average both women and men are happier in a relationship than single. There's a social aspect of it for sure, but I don't think is as powerful as the biological one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:45 PM
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People are getting married. The thing people here don't understand, getting married and having a partner is absolutely a top priority in life for most people. Whether you're a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:07 AM
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A good chunk of women, apparently. I don't remember any close male friend whose partner doesn't check their social networks. Actually scratch that, I think my childhood best friend doesn't go trough that, he got extremely lucky with his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:37 AM
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Yes, it is usually a sign of insecurity/a bad relationship, that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:36 AM
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That's because you don't have insecurities and have a healthy relationship based on trust, something not as common as you'd think nowadays. All my male friends have wifes/gfs who monitor their social networks. It's pretty crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:54 PM
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The vast majority of females over 18 can spot a pump and dump scheme. Only issue I have is that you believe woman can do that. They can't my friend. I've been friends with attractive guys all my life and even in our 30s they still do pump and dump and women still get it confused all the time (i.e they think they want a LTR). They're good looking tho. It's okey, that doesn't mean women are dumb or whatever incel take you think. It's normal. Most guys can't spot when a women doesn't really like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:23 PM
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I risk getting banned, just use google or search for communities here than can help you out on that like /r/sexworkers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:51 PM
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"Before AIDS, sex was like shaking hands"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:53 PM
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Yes, most people are in fact not sleeping around and are pretty sexually inexperienced. You're closer to understand the average man too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:45 PM
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Yeah, for the top most attractive men, sex and relationships are more meaninless because they can get them easily. Congrats you're closer to understand how the top men function, and why most men value a girl with litte sexual experience more!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:08 PM
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This is pointess. Men and women are more similar than different. Women are not saints that are attracted to deep conection and men aren not superficial pigs that just want big butts. Everything you said aplies to both genders: Yes, you need to have looks for that person even consider you, that's how it works for everybody, that's literally what in.cels say. and then, for a relationship you need the looks and more
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:00 PM
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men usually keep quiet because they know is not accepted by society Also yes, most of the kids in my class are 18-24
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:54 PM
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Oh so you're married and never had to try anything at all to meet men? The joke tells itself. How difficult is for ugly women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:54 PM
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Feminism is in full throttle and men's issues are sweeped under the rug. Just keep quiet and try to avoid those type of issues, but every man definitely knows about them and also know you have to keep quiet if you want to stay out of trouble and even more if you want to be in a relationship. The red pill is main stream people just keep quiet about it. Also Gen z and younger for some reason tend to be more lazy that millenials, guess they value their free time more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:49 PM
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Good for them, I don't care about those women's opinions. And like I said, this is an issue even female sex workers have to deal (other women lookin down at the job) and it's annoying, also no point in keep arguing. Like I said being more safe is a good thing and hopefully will continue like that for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:46 PM
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Self perception is an ability that definitley needs to be practiced by everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:43 PM
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It is. Have you tried dating apps? Have you tried going to bars and asking men out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:42 PM
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You have a different way of view sex, and that's fine. But sex work is becoming more safe and more common for new generations and that's is definitely a good thing aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:27 AM
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I mean I've befriend some of them and even follow pro-sex worker activists like Valérie May and from what I've seen some women really hate prostitution and can't really argue with you. It also is exploitation in nature. Like all jobs, do you think I like to be 40 hours in front of a computer? I have to do it if I want to pay my bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:18 AM
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I've used escort services and they're not being "pimped" out, most of the times they have surprisingly more financial education and are more level-headed that most of my female coworkers, it was kinda shocking the first time I learned that. Sex work is becoming more safe for everybody, there are apps where you can contact them with no middle man. Just giving my two cents to everybody reading this, not specifically to you. If you find it disgusting due to your morals, that's great. I also don't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:09 AM
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I'm going back to college at 34 and from what I've seen even normal people are aware of that redpill or man v bear. The thing is for topics like the red pill, men usually keep quiet because they know is not accepted by society, while as things like the man v bear is widely accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:03 AM
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I forget a lot of people here generalize a lot. Yes, if you're extremely unattractive, you should look for a woman who is extremely unattractive aswell, that's the way life works. If you want somebody who is out of your league you're going to have to pay either directly or indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:00 AM
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Just go to sex workers in that case. Having a sugar relationship is so dangerous for your well being.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:17 AM
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Is usually mental health. If you're ugly and try to ask women out you'll get gigantic levels of rejection before being successful, levels no woman experiences. A lot of men of younger generations simply don't have the mental strength to go through that. That's why I think "suck it up and man up" is a big factor to get into relationships and the fact being a traditional man being so frowned upon nowadays plays a big role on what's happening with modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:56 AM
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Discrimination against men is largely accepted in society. Good to see that is (very) slowly changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:42 AM
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Oh yeah, to quote Dr House everybody lies for sure. It's just that when asked what we want in a relationship we are more honest than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:41 AM
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Do you care about men manipulating women for sex? Why? They're immoral. I'd take a prostitute and paying for sex over a full blown intimate relationship with a golddiger. Prostitutes are honest about the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:38 AM
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We are more honest when we say what we look for in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:36 AM
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Sure there's a minority, you're the first one I've heard saying that and I used to work in a female dominated industry (interior design) and went to a dominated female college for a dominated female career (architecture) before switching to software. Generalization are bad so I'll give you there's probably a small percentage of women who are like that, just like i'm sure there's a small percentage of men who are aggressively pursued by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:37 PM
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Definitely. Some women can develop some sort of gut feeling when something is wrong. Although it usually comes later in life, not all of them do it and it varies in efficieny but even when is not that effective, in general, is better than men's. That's the plus side of being constantly bombarded with attention, while the average man is lucky to get 1 girl's attention. IMHO that's part of the problem, most men can't see damaged/toxic women, which sadly are quite common.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:34 AM
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Hard to say. On the one side, women aren't really good at judgin character despite what they say, otherwise every women won't have a "my ex was a douchebag" story, they fall easy if a man knows how to manipulate them. On the other hand, men can get so lonely due to the lack of female attention that when they meet somebody who pays them attention, they just ignore all red flags and fall easily. My bet is... Women can spot them easily and men fall easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:45 AM
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A bisexual person commented in this subreddit sometime ago and she claim "women are like a bucket with a hole that need to be constantly filled up or they'll leave. Men are like a switch that you just turn on". She prefered dating men, said it was easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:49 PM
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What are you talking about? Men being bad at sex is literally a common way to offend men "You've never gave a women a orgasm you small-dick incel"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:46 PM
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Non-american who visits the states twice a year. First thing you have to know, americans don't like pointing out these kind of things and generally my experiences always has been positive but I've definitely noticed american culture tends to be more about consume stuff and always grind to have money. I'm sure that itself affects the way people see relationships. FWIW I visit the LA area, I'm sure that area itself may be extremely different from the rest of the country but I've also heard it from…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:56 AM
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Fair enough, I did make a generalization. Congrats my man. There are 7B people on earth, I'm sure there are outliers for anything, but when we're talking about the average is a completely different story and that's 100% backed up by tons of studies done on the subject, most people are happier in relationships than single. Does not mean exceptions don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:45 AM
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Not really. Plenty organizations and universites have study that through the years. Last 2-3 years some of them have show a small uptick which is why some people in here believe it's over, but I think it's just a temporal result of COVID. Even the first chart in the site you posted shows the "no sex" going steadily up and then a tiny small downtick after COVID, second chart the same except for 18-30 after covid which yeah make sense, third one is probably the one you see as more important but I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:17 PM
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Cool. Any source from a organization that doesn't believe christians are being threatened and abortion is a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:02 PM
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Is there any other studies with similar results from any other source that isn't a conservative "think tank" like the IFS?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:25 AM
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The most attractive men to women tend to have traditionally masculine traits and do traditional roles in the relationship (I don't know many women that can change a tire, all my male friends are the ones in charge of the their and their SO's car). This type of gaslighting is definitely what's causing so much troubles with men nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:16 AM
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Hey, at least you're honest, that's much more than you can say for the average single women in their 30s. I believe EVERBODY is generally unhappier single, we just are in an age where women have to pretend they are happy due to social pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:08 AM
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Nothing to argue with there, other than I'd like to see that research if you have the link. I just want to point out that women have absolutely terrible social/dating skills if that's how they "initiate" flirting. I've always found it funny how society makes fun of men who don't know how to socialize or flirt, while women are equally awful at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:53 AM
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No one told me that being nice had anything to do with being attractive. Oh, then you agree with my original comment... being genuinely a decent/nice man has absolutely nothing to do with how women find you attractive. Don't need to argue really.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:39 AM
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Listen, I could show you studies done about the subject and how usually women are attractive to the same small subset of men, but that would only make you call me names and not change your mind. Hell, using dating sites as a man and comparing it with your attractive friends will show you the complete opposite that you're saying. So there's no point on arguing, and basically why I think most threads here are mostly pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:19 AM
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Absolutely, men complain about the women too. But here's the catch: we, man don't claim"being nice" is what's attractive to us, we're more honest about it, we don't really care that much or at least is not at the top of our priorities. What we say is usually in line to what we're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:17 AM
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This again? Being nice has nothing/little to do with your success with women, that's why every women you've ever meet has a "ex-boyfriend was an asshole" story and that's why whenever a women is murderer the husband is always the first suspect. So yeah, for men: You being nice does not mean more women will find you attractive, you need to work on other things that matter: Personality, sense of humor, physical appereance. For women: That guy you find attractive may very well be an asshole or not,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:33 PM
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I'd agree only modifiying the your last sentence a liitle bit: To most people having a romantic partner is absolutely critical to their happiness, others are perfectly fine alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:30 PM
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Yeah but "cute" usually only includes a extremely small minority of men, and if you find a man cute, chances are a high percentage of women do to, hence why a lot of women are cheated on, most women find most men unattractive, that's the part women have a hard time grasping. Women have absolutel more strict standards, they'd hardly never admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:28 PM
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They're woman who choose to drop of the workforce because the workfoce can be extremely though and mentally draining. Nothing wrong with that, I'd agree with point 2 if it wasn't because divorces are actually made for this kind of scenarios: the women take everything the man have plus things they end up with things like alimoney. 1 and 3 are nonsense, you think women being free of doing whatever they want is a step backwards for women equality? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:35 AM
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Two things: 1) These women are like that because they choose to. Those woman could download a dating app/go to a bar/ ask on a date to literally any men they like and have a high % of succes, they don't struggle to find somebody to date, they choose not to date, unlike men in that position. 2) Most men agree and accept being a 'good woman' does not make you attractive to men, if you're physically attractive men will chase you. You're saying that like is surprising to us, we are honest about what…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:52 AM
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I agree with you, however plenty of decent men who you'll never see saying they are 'good' or 'yelling' good things about themselves, they just do things they enjoy and keep living their life. A lot of those men are struggling to date aswell, which is usually the part women don't grasp. I'm a software engineer, I know plenty guys like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:54 PM
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As a man, I believe you most women you know have been abused; being a decent man with good personality and generally a good person does not translate to finding a relationship, quite usually is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:33 PM
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Dating, yes. For a long term relationship, nope. And that doesn't mean I'm looking for a woman that makes 200K a year which seems to be what women believe, if you have a steady job that pays food, I'll gladly have a serious relationship with you as long as you keep moving forward in life and your job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:28 PM
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I mean yeah, the comment he's replying is a false equivalency, he's replying with a false equivalency. Don't know if you're supporting him or her? I'm guessing her since you're a woman? Neither comment represents real life because they're based on personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:23 PM
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We're talking about tiktok and social networks? Is it because we're not constantly talking about mens' bodies like men do ours? Women are constantly talking about height (less than 6') making fun dick size and bald men, so yeah... women are just as superficial as men, and you thinking that you're not and ignoring all the women talking about those things all the time is basically what I mean in my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:17 PM
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I mean, yeah women and men are superficial, men are just honest about it. And there's nothing evil about liking superficial things, I actually think that's part of the problem, thinking thats "evil" makes women uncomfortable since they're more in touch with their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:35 PM
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Single most importat things for relationships that people just don't understand: luck, looks and social skills. If you have those, you'll be be happy. If you don't, life won't be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:31 PM
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A lot of men aren't even dating, and that number is growing. Maybe the top 10% of most attractive men who use women at will are to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:26 PM
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Because your sexual story is important for other people and society in general. For women is having too much sex, for men is having 0 sex. We're at different extremes of the scale but they're esentialy for the same reason (for women having to much sex is the easiest thing in life, for men having no sex is the easiest thing in life, people don't like lazy people). Is not fair, but no matter how much you complain, that's how is going to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:46 AM
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>I think a lot of men lack proper social and communication skills Just want to say the lack of self-awareness from a lot of women is crazy. Just saw this thread and made me realize how disconected are women from their own gender behavior. I know it only mentions sex, but is not the only topic were women miscomunicate all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:44 AM
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40 and barely walking up stairs? Is the health situation that bad in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:46 AM
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I believe men who are actually succesful at dating are not the "good, decent" people that women claim so much they are attracted to. i.e. Being a decent, attentive men doesn not equal women finding you attractive and viceversa.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:44 AM
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Narcissism. It's more common nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:42 AM
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Hey, is refreshing every time a woman understands it.🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:40 AM
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And telling him exactly how you want it or you'll say no is not a form of control? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:37 AM
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I don't understand the point of this thread. Women in general only find attractive a small % of men. Women on dating apps have even higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:34 AM
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Men's mental health is crap. A lot of men don't really want to be alone, so they choose staying on the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:10 AM
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It applies to everybody. Podcast feed out of outrage and saying out loud things that IRL people keep to themselves and exagerating them. Like yes, Im sure women don't go just for chads, but the truth is that physicial appereance absolutely matters more than they like to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:25 PM
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It has become way too easy for the average guy or even below average to get into situationships with quality women. only standard woman care for this is looks, so maybe you got a point there. Doubt she's a "quality woman" since women like that are terrible at choosing men, but agree with the rest of this sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:47 PM
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Yes, that would be what my female coworkers would say lol. The ones who weren't open about chasing the top most attractive guys, altough it was just one that did that tbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:21 PM
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That's what women said, even my college friend who was knocked up by an alcoholic who was 15 years older. All my female coworkers who have been cheated or dated "assholes" say the same. Tha'ts kinda the point... you don't listen, you observe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:34 AM
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Could be. I don't mingle around conservative men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:26 AM
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My best friends from college married each other. They both work full-time and take care of the children and the house. Most things are split 50-50, although sometimes one may contribute more than the other. For example, shortly after the wife gave birth, she stayed awake at night to care for the baby because she was on maternity leave, while the husband was not on paternity leave. Since he had to wake up at 6 a.m. every day, she made sure he could get a full night's sleep. However, once she retu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:49 PM
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Hopefully it will create waves. I don't expect it, actually most like will go the other way (women "choosing not to have sex" because 100% of people who voted for trump are men lol). But I'm hopeful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:40 PM
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Never heard men saying this. Is mostly women who go for the top men and are disapointed those men are dicks/cheaters/etc. It's almost as if being a decent men does not translate to women finding you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:38 PM
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Is low-level bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 07:59 PM
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You went to two dates with that man, same wth all the "women complaining". Those men aren't having issues getting dates becaus they're attractive, when you're attractive even if you don't smell good there are plenty woman who would ignore that. Women don't really grasp that concept. Plenty of men who would "do the bare minimum" don't get many dates, because they're not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 07:57 PM
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People from all genres an sexes are suffering from high levels of loneliness. Your original thread is about "strugging with dating". Those are two different topics. Are we talking about loneliness or strugging to find somebody to date? Gay men/women don't have the second problem. Doesn't mean they don't have their set of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 07:54 PM
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Can you share the threads where straight men complain about hooking up too much, going on a lot of dates, and meeting a lot of women, but find difficult to find a serious relationship? From there, we can have a discusion comparing the differences and similarities for both cases. It doesn't have to be reddit threads, any link from any site will suffice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:29 PM
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Did you even read the comments of any of the threads you posted? Gay men are hooking up, going on dates, and meeting people, but is difficult to find a serious relationship. Straight men are not complaining about going on a lot of dates and hooking up too much lol. Different problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:36 PM
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Actually men are most likely not to report due to "sexist ideas" and "shame". https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10414400/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:23 PM
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Both genres are generally happier when in relationships, plenty studies done about it which reach to the same conclusion. Part of the problem is, in my opinion, women don't like to accept that. For straight relationships, both genres want to have a deep meaningful relationship with somebody of opposite sex, women just have way higher standars than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 03:12 PM
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A lot of men are aswell. This is actually a complex issue due to men actually being even less likely to report than women are. Depending on the study, country and year different studies throw very different results: For example studies made in the US show the largest gap between genres, men being the ones that are more violent, but if you read from other countries like New Zeland the difference can be as little as 6%. And that's reported violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:00 PM
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I mean, yours can be a logical incosistent aswell, so like I said, really not a lot you can learn by arguing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:50 PM
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Some are, they're just not the type of men who would post here. They usually have a lot of money/status and casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:49 PM
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I've heard better advice from my single friends that from women. Granted, those single men are single because they want, so they're not the type of single men who would post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:05 PM
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Interesting on what OP has to say about this. Women are usually as miserable a men, and they too can choose to change those things that makes them miserable, they just don't do it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:03 PM
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Resources are there, you're just choosing not to use them outa fear. Which is very often the issue with feminist issues, is not patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:59 PM
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I see links to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and similar organizations all the time. Guess we just focus on different comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:58 PM
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Numbers about.... what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:56 PM
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In my experience, you're wrong. See? There's never going to be a healthy discussion here. Best you can do is shitpost. Unless the mods see your message and delete it because they think this is a serious place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:12 PM
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People here come with studies that show hard numbers, and others make fun of them and call them autistic. Then they come with experiences from friends/family and people here discard you because "personal experience doesn't matter". There's literally no way to argue here in a healthy way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:05 PM
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All those things are a now a hot issue, you could absolutely go to some authority/group/person and get the support you need to make them disappear or deal with them. Women have more support than ever in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:36 PM
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Because the ones who cheat are good looking and have TONS of female attention. The ones who don't cheat don't have much female attention. The second group of men are usually invisible to most women, that's why a lot of women claim "all men (that I notice/like) cheat", they don't realize women are usually attracted to the same small subset of men, dating apps are the newst evidence of this, althought people hate them so much because they think they're "not real life", but as a average/less-than-a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:14 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:45 AM
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ok..?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:42 AM
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I know is a touchy subject for women, I want to start by saying there's nothing wrong with women enjoying sex, is completely natural obviously, it's just that is absolutely not the same level as men, go ask any endocrinologist, testosterone is a HUGE boost for sex drive. I'm sure there's a small minority of women with high libido for sure, but that's not the average. Also women sadly, are victims of casual encounters all the time, so that's not a big deterrence as you think it is, is simply that…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:23 PM
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It's crazy to me that women don't grasp how much bigger the male's libido is than the female libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:58 PM
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The best advice I've ever heard: "Don't listen what women say, watch what they do".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:43 PM
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I've seen it more and more common in the last months, I wonder if is just me or is it something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:32 PM
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Sure thing. But real life is a little bit more complicated, I was just answering at OPs question. Plenty of men (specially older men, but not limited to) have a lot of mental health issues, the increasing difficulty of finding a good partner is absolutely another factor to the mix (and society's ability to denied that aswell), but yeah that's not the only factor to men's mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:21 PM
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Because the amount of women who literally choose to be single because they had awful experiences after sleeping/dating /marrying with the top men, so they choose not to date anymore "better to be single than being with an average man" Also Research shows that people who are single, especially men, are living longer than ever before. In the past, men who were never married typically had the lowest life expectancy, but now the never married men are closing in on their currently married counterpart…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:09 PM
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Because is harder for a man to find a decent woman to be his partner than it is for a woman to find a decent man to be her partner. Ya'll still don't realize (or don't want to accept) that dating is exponentially more difficult for men for a lot of factors, Some are under our control, but others are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:46 PM
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Most bisexual woman end up with men. The rate of violence in women-women relationships varies depending on the source but at best is the same as men-women relationships, at worst is higher. Bisexual people usually say is easier dating men than women. Everybody knows is easier dating men than dating women, there was that female youtuber that came out as bi and said she understood why men complain so much about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:23 PM
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Not gen-z, I'm a mid-millenial (born in 1990) but I recently went back to university to get my second degree, the age range of the students generally is 19-25, with the exception of the outliers like myself obviously. Misandry as in "hating men"? Very few. Most women are dating, few are having casual sex with the most attractive guys, few are single. Misandry as in casual misandry I'd say... about 3/4 of the women? (i.e they think all men are 'pigs', all men cheat, being men is a privilege, men …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:39 PM
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If you know somebody who posses at least on of those opinions, but replace "woman" with "black people" does that makes them racist? is just somebody that agrees with some racist ideas? Or are those questions irrelevant when somebody ask you if you think they're racists?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:38 PM
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Just Google "lesbians and straight relationship violence" It depends on how their method of study but at worst same-sex relationships have higher ratios of violence, at best they are the same that straight relationships.There's plenty of data about it. But that's really a moot poin I guess since people are born with their preferences and most people are born straight. People don't just "turn" gay or bi. I guess if you're in the 15% who identifies as bisexuals you could stop dating men if you wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:22 PM
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Sure, if you're not straight do it, I don't know why that would be a problem. Most women, about 70% according to your article are straight tho. But also keep in mind lesbian relationships tend to have higher rates of violence, so is not all a bed of roses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:00 AM
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I'm not going to force women to do something they don't want. It's stupid because women want relationships and intimacy aswell. But you can do it if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:35 AM
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Didn't a lot of women voted for Trump? This is why blaming "patriarchy" will always be so dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:58 PM
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Until people dont realize patriarchy is not the one to blame, we won't have progress. Expect more and more people going conservative in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:32 PM
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I've always have the theory if the average man look like Henry Cavill, female-to-male abuse would be significantly higher. i had a friend in college who worked as a model, so he was REALLY good-looking, I witnessed girls touching his ass, slapping him, forcing him to go the bathroom to fuck in a party, asking him for "kisses" in exchange of something, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:16 PM
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Religion, for instance, unified Arabs and also unified European countries after the fall of Rome. Religion still is useful moral and cultural guideline, and lifestyle. Sure, religion had some positive effects in society 1000s of years ago, when it was literally the only way allowed to rule society. It should be in the history books. Studies consistently say that religious people are generally healthier and happier, This is more of a mental health issue and religion working as placebo effect for …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:51 PM
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Sure, whatever rock your boat I guess, as long as we agree religion shouldn't exist that's failr, genre is not the only thing destroyed by religion through the time, it has constantly destroy lives of milliones of people regardles of sex, gender, race, etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:20 PM
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From most to least relatively important: Behavior, appearance and role in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:10 PM
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Yes, being a woman in a non-western country is still absolutely terrible, mostlye due to religion. I won't discuss that fact with anybody who think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:31 PM
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Everything is fair. But you can't shame men who don't want obese women or promiscous women, for example. Everybody can have standards, that doesn't make people insecure and you have to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:30 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femininity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:34 AM
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Nah, you got the wrong focus. You should help people when you can, but also be aware of yourself. You always come first and the person you're helping second. Ya'll don't understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:35 PM
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But women here say all the time that women do fine if they only want to fuck, but it's super difficult if she wants a serious relationship. The things I mentioned are for serious relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:31 PM
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true that, I meant most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:15 PM
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For the most part, the men and women that visit here are not the norm. But as the other comment said, there's bits and pieces of things that you can learn from here, but just don't expect the average person to be like the people here. I still remember how dumb the "bear and man" thing that's so prevalent online, most IRL woman are mature enough to understand most men aren't a threat, approaching women IRL is seldom the terrible traumatic experience men online say it is, and rejecting men is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:12 PM
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So why: 1. Guys here are saying they’ll fuck anything? 2. Everyone else’s fault that hot women dont want him? Oh, you're generalizing. Can't argue with a generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:09 PM
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What are you talking about? Men are honest about what we wan: Physical attractive women, low body count, not fat, not aggresive, femenine. Income and status is good, but not the first things we look for. Women are usually the ones who are not honest about what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 06:04 PM
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There's a LOT of hyperbole thinking which sadly seems to be the norm nowadays in most issues, that's really deteriorating for mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:11 PM
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Of course not, my point is people can't differentiate between fake and real empathy. All you really need to improve your luck with women is learn to fake it, that's where the fake it till you make it phrase comes from. That's why most people, including women, suck at choosing a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 06:16 AM
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Do you have an "I dated a man who turned out to be an asshole" story? Do your female friends have one? Does your mom? Sisters? I bet you they all have at least one. Women aren't any better at judging character than men are. All women say they are attracted to men with positive characteristics. Wade Wilson has received hundreds of nude pics from women. I don't think men don't have empathy, I believe If a women thinks you're being perceptive and empathetic you'll do good with women. That some men …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:16 AM
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Men who can pretend to be perceptive and empathetic do very well with women. But agree with the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:04 PM
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That may be the case but I believe she's still not being chased by the men she wants which is basically what happens when a woman claims she's "invisible".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:03 PM
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Shit, I totally missed that word in the original question. Only thing I can think of is standing up straight. I guess basic grooming if you're a teenager, but past 25 I think the average well adapted person takes a shower once a day. Also if you have a lose definition of "instantantly" I guess I'd also say get a nice haircut. Also the "wear clothes that fit" is just a meme, I've heard so many women say "he dresses really bad, but he's cute". Women don't really care for that as much as they say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:21 PM
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Shit I genuinely missed the "instantly" part of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:20 PM
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Get in shape Improve social skills Get plastic surgery Don't listen to the people who tell you that you should make more money. Unless you don't care about dating golddigers and high maintance women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:55 PM
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Religious women marry younger, despite your personal experience, they are highly sough after. I'm guessing your experience is similar to most women when talking about not being chased after: You're not being chased by the men you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:53 PM
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The ovewhelming majority are the same yes, which makes people form generalizations, like the one you did about men in the first commment. But granted, there's a minority who isn't doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:43 PM
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LOL that happens all the time. That's where the "dont stick your dick in crazy" comes from. The difference is those men who are actually having sex with women are not the same guys who are not dating women. Sounds dumb and is such a simple concept but most women don't grasp it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:22 PM
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If you are single by choice, the common assumption is you are closeted gay or a pervert The gay part is so true, what's even funnier is that women are the ones who overwhelming think that. If you tell other men that you're single they would just congratulate you or telling to enjoy it. It's the women who are usually annoyed than a man is single and always try to justify it with their sexist beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:20 PM
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Not really, a lot of women here just suck at choosing partner (most men here too, the difference is they don't get to get into a relationship with the women they want)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:04 PM
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Agree but shoudn't be completely illegal either. From the same authors of the original article you posted: We propose a novel, “hybrid” policy that achieves both objectives and restores the free market outcome that arises in the absence of trafficking. If a regulator aims to eradicate all prostitution instead, the optimal policy criminalizes all johns. Criminalizing prostitutes is ineffective and unjust because it fails to eradicate trafficking and penalizes victims. Basically something similar …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:00 AM
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Budget to invest more in third spaces, community events. Heavy taxes on social networks/dating apps Teaching kids physical attraction is important and nothing wrong with wanting a attractive partner Giving more tax breaks for people using gyms, nutritionist and healthcare Teaching kids more social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:48 AM
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Meh, I meet 5 guys with 10 girlfriends that are eventually cheated or they were actually loaded or dating women below their social level and the women claimed that "they were attracted to their personality", so disagree with that. But also yeah I agree, most men aren't actually ugly (ugly and beautiful people are the minority, attractiveness works like a bell curve), they just have self steem issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:41 PM
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You're right it doesn't mean you are, and is obviously not the only factor (social networks are equally damaging imho). But is consistently more and more common. Having a partner is the single on of the most fulfilling experience in life, but it takes sacrifice and hard work and is not always fun. But in the long run is the best you can do for your mental health. The next few decades are going to be really interesting when it comes to relationships and people's mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:57 PM
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I legit think this is the issue with genz and younger men. Women care about looks aswell, you don't have the looks to be demanding my man, get over it, it's not the 60s anymore when women would marry ugly fucks because they needed it. Adjust your standards to what you can get and 90% of men will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:08 PM
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Yeah, but I've always said men are honest about it. We're direct with what we want. Most men don't want overweight, promiscous woman (most men, but there are plenty of men who still like that). We know physical appereance is among the most important things for a relationship and it's the first thing people notice about a potential partner, we don't deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:02 PM
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Do you have any source to back up that or you're just commenting what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:53 PM
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women actually caring more about looks than men do, isn’t all that surprising. The funny thing is, it’s usually women who don’t believe it. I was a bit surprised to see how much income matters for men, but when you think about how the economy is these days, it kind of makes sense. And Ive got to say, I agree with the newer studies on testosterone. It’s been getting a bad reputation, but it’s so important for men’s behavior. It really plays a big role in how we function. Those studies don't talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:05 AM
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What? I Never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:32 AM
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Great sounds interesting. I don't agree with much of that but never heard of those studies you mentioned so could you share those aswell? And no, hormones are extremely powerful and not "simplistic at all". Go read trans people experiences online on how they react to hormone therapy so you can see how much more powerful they are and not just a "nudge". I hate to be that guy (because I know this is a stereotype women dislike) but a lot of your feelings are actually your hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:31 AM
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Can you share the study? I hope isn't a "self-reported study" where they asked people how horny they think they are. Hormones are a very tiny component of sex drive though. Also the source of this please.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:31 AM
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Ah, my bad you're right. As long as you acccept women have it easier to find men to date, we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:30 AM
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Who thinks that women are just as horny as men (on average)? Modern ideologies that want to normalize sex for women. Which is fine, women do enjoy sex, but nobody in their right mind would believe that they are as horny as men. For starters testosterone is a HUGE influence in our sex drive, is not uncommon for FtM trans people being annoyed and surprised about how much more horny they when they're taking T.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:45 AM
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Not at all. They have it easier even in dating aswell. Your sexist belief that all men only want sex isn't real life. A lot of men would date those unattractive women even with the goal of marrying/dating. Unattractive men don't have it that easy at all. Women are privileged in dating when it come to having options, (although usually they are terrible at choosing) don't know what that's so difficult to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:40 AM
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If you find a man attractive, so do other women. And what most women don't understand either, if you find a man unattractive, so do most woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:30 AM
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Not at all, this has been proved constantly online Search "Women should do the "Pig Woman Experiment" on dating apps to really appreciate how worthless 'validation' is." in here. Don't really know why this is so hard to accept to women. You don't lack attention, you lack attention from men you want, I'm sure that comes with its own set of problems but is totally different from unattractive men's experience in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:20 AM
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I think the following is also affecting dating and relationships in a equal or greater level than feminism/mensright: 1.- Men have lower testosterone levels. The main theory is that microplastics are damaging the genitals. Testosterone is what drives men's desire to have sex and form relationships with women and also is a great emotional regulator (it helps to deal with negative emotions like rejection) , and is also worrying because men with low testosterone tend to have issues with fertility. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:24 PM
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Most men do not make their partner's income a high priority. It's great if she makes 6 figures, but I'm already doing 6 figures myself so is not a huge deal. As long as she makes enough to take care of herself and help with spending in the house it's fine. But is she fun to be around and kind to people? is she in shape (im in shape myself because that's important for me) and beautiful and is passionated about something? and most importantly is she always giving me unconditional support and makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:22 AM
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but on the other, we shouldn't honestly imply being penetrated and being made to penetrate are the same thing Nobody should imply that. We should focus on the importance of consensual sex regardles of genre.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:11 AM
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I'd say we have similar numbers. But men tend to have more 'aggresive' type of dysfunctionalities while women tend to be more covert.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:25 PM
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Yeah I agree, usually terrible men have no issues at finding relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:04 AM
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I can't think of one legitimate reason to give two fucks about how many past sexual partners someone has had Your personal beliefs are reason enough. You may see sex as a very private thing that you only do with somebody you love. If a person is promiscous that person sees sex as just an activity to have fun. Nothing wrong with either, but you already have a philosophical difference in life. And to me, that's completely valid. Insecurities and self-steem can be a reason, but I don't think it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:02 AM
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Oh yeah it is higher, but there's no point of comparison against men who don't hire at all, even though the study says it "there is a dearth of research on the personality characteristics that typify men who buy sex from those who do not.". But like I said, if that's reason enough for you, I don't see anything wrong with that. Also, men with dark traits tend to be more attractive. So regardless of what most women here think, most men who are hiring prostitutes are also not having issues finding …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:58 AM
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Just FYI for everybody reading this, I've been researching some studies mentioned here and most of the negative results are with "outside prostitution" (street girls) while "indoor prostitution" (escorts) don't have the same high results. Also in some studies when they talk about "men who pay for sex" they're using men who hire sex workers several times a week, which at that point I do find it way too much. Some of those studies are pretty interesting but they seems to obvious (if you spend thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:17 AM
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This actually make sense and sounds healthy. Regardles what modern society tells you the past matters. If you're uncomfortable with the sexual past of your partner, there's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:02 AM
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Other than my most succesful friend in dating is a serial liar and most women do not care about liar men as long as they find him attractive, I'd say I agree with everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:55 PM
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Yep. Wanting women's approval is basically the problem with most men nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:50 PM
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It's completely fine to have standards. That's why so many man don't want promiscous women aswell, but we've been told that one is wrong. In reality, all preferences are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:49 PM
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"Do not listen what they say, watch what they do"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:32 PM
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My theory is as men, we are used to fight for ourselves since we're kids (nobody will care if I get sick or if I lose my job) that when we're looking for a partner we just want somebody who will be there for us and love us. We mostly do not care if a women is powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:31 PM
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Yes yes I know, most women say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:24 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:23 PM
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sorry, my error, they were talking about a social gathering, not a club as the other comment corrected me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:10 AM
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Yeah I know. They weren't talking about casual things either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:50 AM
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Yes, the good ol' sexist premise that most men are shitty people with no awareness or social skills whatsoever and that's why dating is so difficult for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:30 PM
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Yeah I know, looks don't matter for you because youre are looking for serious deep things in relationships and men just want to fuck. They also said that in the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:14 PM
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They basically say incels are wrong and minutes later they also said things like "Only one man in the club who is attractive, and me and my single friends feel like have to fight over him" or "sex comes easier to men" They're not smart. They're probably doing it for the cloud. I don't think people lack that level of self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:22 PM
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That's why being a man is way harder when it comes with relationships. Women have a "I had a bad partner" problem. Men have the "can't get any girl interested on me" and when we finally do find one girl, the probabilities of her being a bad partner (manipulative, emotional issues) are high aswell. The problems stack for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:12 PM
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Yeah, but refering to what OP is saying, men don't want to make the first move anymore precisely because they are choosing to be more careful, the consequences could potentially destroy their life. I'm agreeing with you, but not with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:56 PM
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That's an... interesting way to put it. But if you don't look like chris hemsworth don't expect to find an Elsa Pataky-type women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 04:25 PM
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I've said it hundreds of times. Generally speaking, women's social skills when it comes to dating are just as bad as men. But they don't have to be proactive about it, so it's not as noticeable as men's behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:30 PM
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That's great, but how's that phrase that women love applying to men, than can also apply to women? Ah yes "a few bad apples spoil the barrel.".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:29 PM
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Yep. If you have your standars set correctly, you can end up finding somebody attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:26 PM
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Not saying they don't exist Just like there are women dating short/ugly men. The world isn't an hyperbole. You need to laydown the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:59 AM
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I'm talking about outside, most normal men. That's why most men don't like overweight women. Sure, most people who come to these places definitely fall under what you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:16 PM
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Standards. If you are a "short, ugly, fat, poor, not going places, mentally ill and with other detrimental aspects" man and you're only interested on Alice Eve/Ana De Armas type girls, you're going to be alone for a looooong time. You don't realize how much the unrealistic standards is fuckin up younger men. They think the average woman look like a tiktok influencer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:15 PM
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The whole proverb goes "a few bad apples spoil the barrel."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:12 PM
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It's the hyperbolic culture we live today. The overwhelming majority of people is happier being in a relationship, that's a fact. The thing is for hetero relationships, admiting that, is admiting you need somebody of the opposite sex to be happy and that's seen as giving power over you to somebody else. That's a HUGE NO-NO nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:42 PM
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Married people, regardles of gender or sex, have always fair better (happier) through history. It's only the last decade or so when these "studies" where they ask women if they're happy starting show the opposite. The funny thing is that if you remove the gender part and the "asking people" part, studies still show people in relationship are happier (https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2003/03/married-happy) it's only when you ask women that you get a different result. Ignoring the fact that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:40 PM
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Not directly, nor they were the main focus when they created them. And again, they dont tackle the mental health issue that men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:25 PM
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/despair-makes-young-us-men-more-conservative-ahead-us-election-poll-shows-2024-04-12/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2024/aug/07/gen-z-voters-political-ideology-gender-gap https://www.axios.com/2024/09/28/gen-z-men-conservative-poll https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/11/politics/gender-gap-2024-election-analysis/index.html etc You keep ignoring the issue, it'll just get worse and worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:24 PM
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I'm talking at a global level, not sure what they've done in the US. I'm sure they have done good things, nothing you said there is specifically about men's mental health tho, and what you said is not focused at men (except the first one about custody, which is really focused at helping kids, but I'll give you that one).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:00 PM
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Hahah sorry, african-mexicans are a thing specially in the south lol. You look great my dude, have you tried going to therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:54 PM
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wtf bro you're struggling with women looking like that? You're not ugly. It's truly fucked up for those of us who are really ugly. Also are you mexican ? That fishing cap is extremely popular here because narcos use it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:48 PM
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Yeah, trying to blame men on OLD is common. I've had female friends wirting my "profile" and choosing pics because they thought like you. 3 weeks later and no matches they just pretended in never happened and still believe is "mens' fault they aren't getting matches". But I believe you, most women have absolutely terrible dating profiles aswell, but men are more horny so for a lot of men that doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:44 PM
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Daily reminder that the Kyriarchy is the real problem in society. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:42 PM
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Never say they hated women. But a lot of men aren't happy about how society sees them just because they have a penis. The left seldom speaks to men, while the right does. That's basically why. The day the left accepts there's a mens mental health issue and actually take actions to help them, you'll see how it changes, but that day is not near.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:40 PM
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It's almost as if patriarchy isn't the root of problem
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:56 PM
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Do you have close male friends? Because while I'd agree most men get GFs, it's not without any degree of difficulty lol. Unless you're super physicially attractive, 90% of men have to go through a LOT of rejection/ghosting, that's far from not difficult. That's actually what I think is part of the problem: Most modern men have developed thin skin and are way too emotional vulnerable for their own good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:02 PM
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Absolutely. The results of that ideology are already becoming noticeable (for example, how most younger men are right-wing while women are left-wing). Nothing good will come of this. The sad part is that the people who are truly responsible for many of society's problems want the division to continue, is in their best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:57 PM
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Men can have options. But only after men learn to work on themselves and have self steem. Until then, yeah you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:54 PM
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Some do as last resource (after hearing a lot of rumors for example, watching videos or photos, etc...) but yeah, modern ideologies have kinda mark it as an "insecure" thing, but is normal to have sexual preferences on you partner. Most older women would have issues dating a virgin man. It's perfectly normal and not a "insecure" thing. Plus most promiscous women won't be honest about it, so no point on asking, but it still matters for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:36 AM
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The term was originally developed in the context of feminist theological discourse, and has been used in some other areas of academia as a non–gender-based descriptor of systems of power, as opposed to patriarchy. They're actually not the same thing. It is an intersectional extension of the idea of patriarchy beyond gender. So yeah gender is there... it's just not the most important fact anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:31 AM
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Sure, but I'm just answering OPs question. I'd wait IRL in that hypothetical case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:28 AM
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You're right, my bad, just ignore that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:25 AM
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Sex drive go down with time in all genders. Don't know why you say that. Testosterone plummets after 30's in men and with that the libido tends to go down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:24 AM
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One of the biggest reasons for divorce is infidelity. Sex and attraction are among the biggest requisites in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:27 PM
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Yes, because is her body. What's the point of your comment? I'm not aware of a prenatal test where the woman's body isn't involved, maybe you know one?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:18 PM
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That was my take. I don't really take you serious if you think Kyriarchy isn't the root of all social issues nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:16 PM
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Because we don't live in a patriarchy. Most modern serious feminist movements, and not the ones made by women on faceboook or tiktok, know this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyriarchy So I'd disagree on the "we live in a patriarchy", but I'd say you're mostly right: In most developed countries your sex/genre is not as important as having money/knowing the correct people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:24 AM
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Non-Invasive Prenatal Paternity Test is a cutting-edge test that makes it possible for you to confirm if the man you suspect to be the father of your baby is the biological father I think we're talking about different things?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:59 PM
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NIPT also works for paternity testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:56 PM
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See? that's my point. Behavioral changes in people can be reason enough. How manye times have you heard a woman saying "my boyfriend was really nice but suddenly change because X or Y". Behaviour can be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:54 PM
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Agree, the problem here is that "reason to suspect" may have different definitions for you and me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:49 PM
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That's what dating is for. I'd never knock up a women who after dating for some time, I realize she's not emotionally stable. Again that's why this is just an hypotetical and would never happen for me, I hope you can decipher that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:47 PM
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Just know I would never be with a emotionally unstable woman like that, that's really all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:41 PM
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If we talked about the issue and she's still disagree and offended, sure we can try to have a healthy talk about what we can do from that point on. Again, I've seen it, is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:40 PM
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Your argument doesn't make sense, because you don't understand what I'm saying, don't know why. Her behaviour in the future can change, and can make you doubt what she did in the past. Not sure if still doesn't make sense? I can give you an example if you'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:38 PM
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My man, you're just not listening and I'm not dodging anything. Maybe the person who you "rawdog and blow a load inside her" changed. Liars and cheaters exist, they can manipulate you aswell and a lot of times you don't realize until is too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:33 PM
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Right, but in that case is different because she listened to what I had to say and we talk about the issue. You're assuming all women would disagree and consider it offensive. I know there are women who don't because I've seen it personally. So yes, there are emotionally smart women who would understand, you're just not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:32 PM
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It did you just don't want to listen. Maybe everything was going well and suddenly her behaviour change. I'm guessing you're a woman, how many times have you heard the "he was so nice and polite, but he changed because X or Y" It could be that person who you had a child with is not the same person anymore. People make mistakes, other people can be manipulative, and maybe you didn't realize in time, doesn't make you a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:28 PM
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If she thinks for 40 weeks that without ever being interested on having a conversation or listening to my reasons and why I want to do it and discussing about it, she is not emotionally stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:25 PM
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Like I said I would never be with a woman like that. There are definitely women that are emotionally smart enough to understand why men do it without feeling offended. Maybe the times don't match or the man may have infertility issues and just wants confirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:16 PM
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There are, don't know why you'd think otherwise. Care to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:13 PM
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I know, this is kind of a moot point for me, I was just having fun, but it would be like asking you "Would you forget your husband for missing your birthday after he sexually abused you 3 times?". I would never be with that type of partner, is just an hypotetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:12 PM
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I know reddit has a unhealthy simplistic view of love and relationships, but people can absolutely change and they can do things that hurt you even when you trust them. It's okey to be human, trust somebody just to have that trust violated. If you are in doubt about anything your partner did, even when that thing violated your trust, it's fine to try to know the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:10 PM
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Can help you finding health risks, start a medical history, and know if there is predisposition to certain conditions even before the kid is born, that's how people know their kids have down's syndrome before they're born for example. All of it can be done with a NIPP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:05 PM
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Because I'm not doing it because she cheated, It can be done for legal or medical reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:20 PM
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I don't want to be with a woman that is so emotionally unstable. If her first reaction is to feel offended or cry rather than to sit and at asking why I'm doing that and discuss about it, she's not somebody I'd have as a partner. I guess is a ridiculous hypothetical situation to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:18 PM
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a Noninvasive prenatal paternity test (NIPP) will get rid of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:44 PM
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True, I agree with what you stated in the original comment. But the thing is women won't agree with that, that's why is a moot point. It's considered an extreme offense to ask a paternity test to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:30 PM
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As a man in my 30s, I've meet a not insignificant share of women who all claim "will be alone forever because men are so difficult" or "being single is great", even witnessed drunk female friends crying because they're single, just to end up married. I definitely agree that modern ideologies are absolutely messing with people's mentality. There's nothing wrong with wanting a relationship and the overwhelming majority of people regardles of sex or gender will be way more happier in a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:15 PM
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Those 30 years include highschool, college and a few work places. So not always "complete strangers"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:07 PM
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Yeah, sorry I worked for a while on two different 2M+ population cities, so I was thinking it's small in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:05 AM
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I've always though 0.1% is way too high for unattractive men. Somewhere 0.00001-0.001% would be more accurate, I grew up in a small city (300k) and not once had a girl finding me attractive in 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:25 AM
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That's a huge generalization. I don't agree with that. But even if that's the case, those women are still going to have a lot more options compared to the options men will have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:22 AM
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Again sure, plenty of men would still be attracted to that. The point you're missing is men are on average much more desperated than women. Remember BBW is literally a porn category.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:04 PM
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Sure, but that still will attract plenty of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:02 PM
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Oh friend, women are already extremely aggresive about it, and most women are aggresive against men in general because we are all "potential rapist". So that shouldn't worry him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:14 PM
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Actually that's... not the worst idea I've heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:08 PM
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It will be a change for women for sure. Most overweight women will become attractive since that's basically the only physical requirement for a lot of men (not being fat) Most overweight men will not become more attractive since women have a long list of physical requeriments (Short, unattractive face, bald? Good luck even if you're not fat anymore)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:06 PM
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I'm an atheist so overall no, I won't date people from the middle east if they follow a religion from there. I won't date people who have heavy religious beliefs doesn't matter which one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:16 AM
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I mean sure. As long as we agree on physicial appereance being a deciding factor on dating, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:14 AM
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I forgot that. No, generally I won't like to date in the middle east either because the religion there is absoltuely terrible. I cannot imagine how awful would it be for my potential daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 06:02 PM
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People date people in ther level of physical attractiveness (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/06/240627172014.htm), that's been stablished long ago. Is that the only thing men and women look for? Of course not. It's among the most important ? Yes. Men are more honest about this than women? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:50 PM
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I think you have your focus wrong. What's ruining, not only dating, but human relationships in general, are social networks and internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:48 PM
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I'm not white so dating in asia would probably be even harder. Other than than, I really don't have a preference of the ethnicity of my partner. That's more of a women's thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:42 PM
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Yes indeed, my friend, I agree with everything you said. That's the point I was making in my original comment. Now imagine if every time someone had issues with dating, the first thing people said was, 'You live in a bad area, that's why your dating life sucks.' It's such dismissive advice for such a complex issue. That's exaclty what happens whenever the "just talk to women" advice comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:34 PM
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No advice is going to be really good unless its really specific to your exact problem. YES that is my point. A lot of men having issues dating is not because they are women-hater far-right incel-type women-objetifying men (those men are called "womanizers" and they have no issues getting laid) as reddit like to pretend. Why would you expect its easy for someone to give you good advice when you clearly can't figure out the problem yourself? If it was easy wouldn't you just be doing it? Completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:08 PM
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Basically that's why a "girl boss" type of women isn't atttractive to a lot of men. You can be 40 and not have a demanding job, which is why a women's career is not as important for men, some are down to eventually settle with that type of women after dating younger and carefree women. And that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:03 PM
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English is my second language, I mean somebody on his 20s. 25-29 are fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:01 PM
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I... already said by 24-25 most people are over with school... you probably missed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:51 PM
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You're missing the point so much. That’s what I generally don’t understand - what do you WANT women to do? That they’re so awful for refusing to do? Nothing? I'm not complaining how they act. Don't understand why is this an issue for you or you have reading comprehension issues? Or im not explaining myself properly (english is my second language)?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:49 PM
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It's vague and reductive advice. Similar to "If you want to fix your financial issues? get a job". Sure, I guess you should do it, but simplifies an issue that may be more complex. And yes, men are women are different, we go through extremely different experiencies in life, is not uncommon for men to think of women as an extremely different set of people, same applies for women. Don't know why that's such a big issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:46 PM
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You're missing the point of what we're trying to make. Whenever a man has issues with women, women's advice is "stop thinking you'll get laid and treat us like normal people". That's really vague and mostly useless advice. You need to be attractive, however you treat women is secondary. I'll give you another example, one of the other 2 dudes was traditionally attractive and later ended up sleeping with 2 of the women there. Those women didn't even talk to him when they're working, they had an "a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:14 PM
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Used to work in interior design. There were like 12 women and 3 guys. Agree on the you'll be seen as "one of the girls" part. "A male friend" and "somebody who she finds attractive" 99% of the times are two different types of men. I even remember when we "hang out" their husbands/boyfriends were seldom around, unless there was some heavy social event to "show his husband off". It was still a good way to learn more about women, they are as nasty and superficial (i'd say more superficial) as men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:25 PM
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I'll invite the 20 yo to trips whenever I want. Also by 24-25 most people are already out of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:07 PM
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Because women aren't a monolith. Some probably don't want to date a man who is 5-10+ years older than them, but there's also a LOT of women who like that. Also if you're broke, out of shape and have bad social skills, doesn't matter if you're 30 or 20, you won't have a lot of woman interested on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:46 PM
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No, it happens due to the biological clock women have. And as you grow older you'll start to notice it more and more often. And even if it doesn't and you're right, life itself can make it more difficult to have fun. It's not the same dating a 20 secretary with little responsabilities that dating a 40 yo with a manager position that has to travel to other cities once a week. There's simply less time to enjoy. Some men simply don't want that, specially because at 30 a lot of men already have dema…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:13 PM
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I definitely see this becoming more common specially in younger generations. Nowadays, a lot of women are as manipulative and toxic as a lot of men, so makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:45 PM
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Like I say it depends on what you want. That's why some men eventually gor for a woman their age after having tons of fun with younger women. That's fine aswell, as long as you enjoy yourself 🤘
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:41 PM
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Hotter, more fun and less seriousness overall, and a lot of men find that attractive. But some men don't want that, they're about heavy commitment and planning their life, and that's fine aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:32 PM
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Older men date younger because those women are easy, BUT I don't mean easy in the pejorative sense that you're thinking. I mean they are more approachable and open, you have more experience and women prefer older men, it's a interesting effect. The only 2 times I've been asked out in my life were both women who were almost a decade younger (I was 30 and they were 20-21). They're not dead serious about relationships as older women are, they just want to enjoy life and have fun. A lot of men find …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:24 PM
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Ah I understand, yes you're correct. Sorry, english is my second language.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:20 PM
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Absolutely, but the men who want kids admit they want to be parents, there's nothing wrong with wanting kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:08 AM
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Not at all. I'm guessing most of you are in your 20s or younger. I'm in my 30s, and almost every woman I know (with two exceptions) is invested in having kids, to the point where they "don't feel like women if they don't have kids." If I had to guess, many younger women are following the trend of "not wanting to have kids and being career-focused." But as you grow older, people change. Most realize that dedicating your life solely to work can be draining and feel pointless. When I was in college…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:11 PM
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No. This is one of those ideas that are the reflection of what one genre think about something and they think is the same way the for the other genre. Women and men want different things in their partners. Most women care about the income of their partner, most men don't. As long as you're not unemployed and help with the spending in the house, it's not a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:11 AM
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Do you think women who married men who were abusive could have prevented the situation if they talked with them about physicial abuse in relationships before the relationship turned serious? Pople hide their true identity a lot of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:10 AM
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I'm on a small dose of testosterone therapy and it's great mentally and emotionally (testosterone is an emotional regulator) but as a lonely, heavily unattractive male, it's sucks because it has give me the horniness of a 15 yo kid again (im in my 30s) and I'm perpetually single, but the good thing is that I can handle it, like I said it does wonders for your mental health. Also masturbation helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:31 PM
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You know what? I agree with you. Thing most women don't realize is that women can be manipulative and controlling as men. You know that thing where the man it's so nice in a relationship and then suddenly becomes abusive? It happens with women aswell. I don't disagree that it's a sign of a poor relationship. Thing is, sometimes isn't men's fault, it's better to be safe than sorry. As a general advice when I don't know the details of your relationship, it's better to hide it than to deal with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:49 PM
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Luck, attractivness. First relationships seldom work unless you're extremely lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:46 PM
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Nope. Most women will get offended at this and start dropping the same sexist excuses men have throw at women for years ("if you didn't want to get a kid, you shouldn't have sex, it's your fault for sleeping with her, etc...") Do it secretly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:57 AM
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Romantic relationship experience is important to have romantic relationships. For everything else in life, it's overrated. You can be a good lover/husband/wife, but that doesn't always translate to other parts in life. Society have this "just cause" belief that if you're a good person, you'll find somebody who will love you, but that's a lie, which is why so many people think is a "red flag". But remember when a women is victim of a violent crime, the husband is often the culprit. Having "relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:51 AM
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And sounds like you have comples issues aswell, I sense being single is not your main issue. Have you tried therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:48 AM
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Don't think something as complex as being homeless is the same as a romantic need, that's a bad comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:35 PM
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Do you see why most men think woman have no clue what is like to be a man? A good percentage of men have never been approached by woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:24 PM
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I kinda agree... I don't think "happines" it's a on/off thing. I believe single people can have happines. Not the happines that comes from being in a loving relationship, but definitely a happines that can be enjoyable and can make you content with your life. But ultimately yes, being in a relationship will elevate your happines to even greater levels. Everybody men and women are happier in relationships. I also agree with the women prefer the "lesser evil than a bad relationship". That's someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:20 PM
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Sexual past absolutely matters regardless of gender. It helps you understanding how the person behaves/ what believes in life. There's nothing wrong with being interested on your potential partners past sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:50 PM
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We live in the age of hyperbole for sure. Most people don't realize how extremely damaging it is for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:44 PM
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Not a lot, a few not more than 5. Most of them are in relationships, usually the ones that I don't see often, some have ended up in toxic relationships where the women is controlling and seldom lets them go out with the boys. Not rn, I worked in a female-dominated industry for 5 years and I did have female friends, I lost contact with them sadly since they move out, they are cool tho. Great, no problem there I'm in my 30. Most men don't care for friendships anymore, their life revolve around the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:38 PM
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Irrelevan but why these extremely biased questions that aren't asked in good faith aren't removed by mods?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 07:36 PM
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Yeah, sounds like we differ based on our biased experiences. Like I said, nothing wrong with that, it's a difficult topic to analyze.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:32 PM
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Yep, I believe 20% of people in general regardles of gender, sex or race are complete fuck-ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:25 PM
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what percentage of guys would you think would rape/molest (a.k.a. sexually interact with someone without that person's consent) if they absolutely knew they would get away with it? It's not something easy to quantify. Any person giving you an answer is doing it from a biased point of view based on their experiences, including me. If you're still interested in knowing my answer, I know most men are decent. There are definitely a minority of complete fuck-ups, but sexual harassment is not being to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:22 PM
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it automatically screens out fat women legit telephone number IQ. 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:40 PM
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So, back to my original question. What do you think of the people who say there are reasons not to trust black people and don't have ptsd or survival instinct? Hell, it may be a 5'1 woman who is is scared because most black people are taller for her and black people statistically have stronger bone density, would you say you understand her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:46 PM
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Tried to read the study but is behind a paywall. I believe a study with a sample size of 86 made by an organization that works by making people aware of a problem usually needs cross-sectional studies. Not saying is wrong, tho, if anything people should realize is wrong, maybe doing more studies about the situation would help get a better picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:09 AM
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I mean... don't you think that ginger beard fear, being racist or not trusting men is a you problem? Like you said PTSD or similar...?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:57 AM
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I don't think it does at all, I believe porn and OF are equally bad for the consumers. But we're arguing without base, so no way for me, or you to argue our point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:48 AM
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The end product is the same: Men watching a woman degranding herself. It's not like the brain will take "who was in control in the backstage" into consideration. Fwiw, I'm against OF and porn a like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:47 AM
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I disagree and basically for a reason most men here don't realize. I'm a decent man, I've never made a woman uncomfortable with my presence, used to work in a female-dominated field (interior design) and had no issue talking with women. If I ever get rejected by a woman with a lie, I know she's not the type of women who I would want as a partner, maybe she's got traumas and won't make a good partner, and most importantly she probably is terrible at judging men if she feels the need to lie to me.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:36 AM
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You did the right thing. The fact that they don't believe you or argue with you is a common reaction, but your phyisical integrity was never in danger I assume?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:34 AM
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Honest questions, if mods think its against the rules please let me know, It's honestly something I've always wondered and why basically to me this ideology is harmful. Do you think is ok that some people have a bias against black people because their previous experiences with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:25 AM
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This place does more damage that they think, mods have a obvious bias that is not helping whatever their goal is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:59 PM
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Guess is a fair hypotesis, assuming the code stays the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:55 PM
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As a software enginer myself, I think unless you worked on the alghoritm in dating apps, it's impossible to say how effective they are. And even if you worked at tinder, you won't know how bumble or badoo's alghoritm would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:52 PM
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I'm guessing he misquoted the study. What he probably means is that men have a more ethnically diverse dating history than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:51 PM
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Dating apps are falling out of use and there's nothing that makes me more produ of genz and younger!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:48 PM
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It's obvious they want power and control over women. This is why these types are quick to romanticize the patriarchy/traditionalism. How is this thread still up? OP message is not written in good faith at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:41 PM
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They're usually physically attractive or it's a relationship of convenience, most often than not the man is loaded or has some position of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:38 PM
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Women's problems are accepted in society. Men's problemas means you're a women-hater incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:39 AM
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Men have higher libido due to testosterone. What's your objection/question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:36 AM
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Let's pretend that the dumb idea that every single "fat" women are 100% looking just for easy sex and don't care for a relationship lol. That would still mean it's way easier to be a fat woman than an average men. The women is at least getting sex, the man isn't getting neither sex nor love. So no, even in that silly scenario they don't have it anywhere as hard as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:40 AM
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boosting testosterone for someone with already normal levels increases their libido. There's a "cap" on the amount of testosterone the body can handle due to homeostasis. When testosterone levels are too high, the hypothalamus and pituitary gland reduce the production of certain hormones. In simple terms, if you start receiving too much testosterone, your body stops producing it to achieve equilibrium, obviously boosting testosterone won't increase your libido after certain point because your bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:28 AM
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I'm on testosteron therapy. Go ask a doctor if you want to know why, there's plenty information around this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:20 AM
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would you expect the desire for casual sex between the genders to be exactly the same as in our real world? I wouldn't. It would be different for sure but men would still have higher libido. Testosterone is the biggest reason. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5649360/ Also If you have been with several women, means you're attractive, which means the handful of libido that women have would spend it with you since you're attractive. Don't know if that makes sense: When you have very li…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:26 PM
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As a man, I agree with you. Modern culture that wants to paint women with same libido as men is insane. Outside biological anomalies, the average woman will never like sex as much as the average man. I blame pornography and things like onlyfans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:21 PM
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Agree. As a man also is annoying the the belief that women prefer decent, good, kind man when it's obviously not true. And there's nothing wrong with that, we're all humans, not saying men are any better, because we aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:10 PM
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Those men probably aren't "average". Unless the man is extremely attractive, I believe most men have a difficult time perceving the attractiveness of other men. For example Pete Davidson is good looking, but most men just don't see it. I've never meet a man who is "fairly average but they have women obsessed with them ". The fairly average men that I know are: 1.- Single or 2.- Have had 1 or 2 LTR in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:30 PM
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It happens, but back to my original comment. Do you want to genuinely be loved or just to be in a relationship? Do some research on the % of unhappy women in relationships, most of those women who are dating below them are probably in unhappy, transactional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:25 PM
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then nearly all guys are unattractive. Yeah.... remember women find something like 80% of men unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:03 PM
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No, those women exist and have absolutely no problems finding men. https://x.com/Interstella4L/status/1541532882149298178/photo/1
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:28 PM
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If you don't care about being genuinely loved by a women, yes you can count on money. But I don't think that's a healthy approach to have. And when I say unattractive, I mean really unattractive people. The ones that are in shape and still are unattractive. Think of Aziz Ansari or Harry Melling, those are men that will never be super attractive no matter how hard they try.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:04 PM
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Disagree. Awareness it's a great tool for changing people's behaviour. Accepting that women are as flawed as men when choosing a partner and they're not these magical creatures that can "sense good men" (which is a weird way to put women on pedestal that even women themselves do) it's not healthy. Arguing leads to awareness, awareness leads to improvement. "Focusing on yourself" won't do as much as you think in your love life if you're simply not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:43 PM
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