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| 1 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.You're literally spamming character atracks because you ran out of counter arguments. Desperate hate bot. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 11:42 AM |
| 1 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.Factually incorrect. That's a lie. You're literally one of the people I replied to in the thread, before you started character attacks. That's a poor way of handling moments when you run out of arguments. That makes you a hate bot! | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 11:41 AM |
| 1 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.You're spamming replies. You're literally one of the individuals i replied to in the thread I created, amongst others. You ran out of arguments and attacked the person that made the arguments. Ggwp hate bot. Know other tricks or is behaving unethically the best you can do? | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 11:39 AM |
| -1 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.There is one single thread there that OP joins while I comment for other people's reply as well. I barely interact, if at all, with the OP. Try again bot! | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 11:00 AM |
| 0 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.Lol, you literally have me mixed up with someone else. There are individual threads here and I have one opened that involved multiple people. You'd think chatacter attacks would get borking but hey, you do you. Try again, bot! | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 10:59 AM |
| -1 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.There are individual threads with individual discussions. Try again. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 10:53 AM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.I do agree that men are seen as expendable. The draft goes back to Mespoptamia, so we haven't changed much in thag regard, which is one, sad, and two, fucked up. Then again, for women to be included in the draft, you need a military doctrine that can include, involve and benefit/utilize with efficiency. We're not there yet. I wish we were, but we've made insufficient progress with integration. Performance is not universal. But I do agree something must be done. I disagree however, that adding re… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 10:16 AM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.I would see the solution as investing and supporting active military professionals and enticing reservists, whilr balancing out participation, if not in the same roles then the same %. I do not see equalling gender % in drafting as a solution as drafting itself is detrimental. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 09:51 AM |
| 0 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.Talking to different people with different takes and points of view. Feel free to review and join the threads. Not sure what place that accusation has outside being random. Cheers. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 08:48 AM |
| 1 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.I went by the definition of sentience. Sentience is the feeling or sensation as distinguished from perception and thought. 18-25 weeks is considered the earliesr stage at whicj the lower boundary of sentience could be placed. At this stage, there is little evidence for the central processing of somatosensory information. Basic neuronal substrate required to transmit somatosensory information develops by mid-gestation. That's the 18-25 week boundary Before 30 weeks gestational age, EEG activity i… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 08:47 AM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Conscription and travel bans are not one and the same. Drafting: selective service system calling registered men ages 18 to X (x accounts for country variation) for duty. Men are examined for mental, physical and moral fitness for military service. Conscription is often refered to as the draft, but at its corez its a practice dating back to ancient mesopotamia. Drafting in peace time is one problem. Drafting under martial law another. You can fight against drafting in a civil law context and fun… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 08:41 AM |
| 0 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.Risk of complications and availability from a legal standpoint. Before 14 weeks of pregnancy, the main risk of medical abortions are: - needing another procedure to remove parts of the pregnancy that stayee behind in the womb (70 out of 1000 women) - serious complicatione such as heavy bleeding, damage to the womb or sepis. (1 out of 10000) From 14 weeks of prrgnancy, the main risk of medical abortion are: - needing another procedure to remove parts of the pregnancy that stayee behind in the wom… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 08:02 AM |
| -1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Op refers to the situation in Ukraine speciffically. This is entirely ABOUT martial law, as no one here bothered to check that the law passed was about leaving the country not joining the war effort. Those men are not forced to fight, only to stay within the country's borders. Its also not all men who are forced to stay, as any parent of 3 children (under 18) single parent, adobtive fsther, father of a child with special needs or similar, is not obligated to stay within the country's borders. Th… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 07:13 AM |
| -2 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Murder only applies to sentience and sentience is post natal not prenatal. While sentience has degrees the lowest possible form is only found within the 18th to the 25th week of the pregnancy. Had the child have his or her life at risk post birth, yes, that then, if devolved to such a point, be murder. Arguing for fetus sentience is like arguing for chicken sentience. Go sue KFC. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Its in order to add weight in court to the repercautions of the criminal's actions. Ultimately, the charge is "taking twice that which should not be taken" as that life and potrntial sentience may be desired by the parents. There is no way to know, especially since the mother has not yet aborted the child but kept it. That doesn't change its current state of being s mass of flesh. Sentience is post natal. The choice, however, was taken away from the mother as well as her life taken awaynin the p… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 06:50 AM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.I think hero worship is jusr another poison. Not a great idea. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 06:45 AM |
| -5 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.To be dead, you must first be sentient. The moment you're sentienr, you're already unwanted. Sentience is post natal. There's no "better dead or alive" comparison, as rhe only present sentience is telhe mother's. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 06:45 AM |
| -1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Oh no...:)) | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 06:42 AM |
| -2 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.25th week. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 06:41 AM |
| 4 | The possibility to abort an unborn child is NOT a human right, we as human beings, as men, should NOT support abortion rights.We should support abortion rights. How can someonen so interested in life hold so little respect for the living? Do you offer yourself to raise all the unwanted children that result from this context? Of course not, why should you be responsible when its all about telling other people to be responsible. Got more nuggets a' wisdom to share or was that it? | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 01:35 AM |
| -2 | If the roles were reversed...Oh no... | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 01:03 AM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.I'd accept that if not for the machinations of the previous leadership. This is not a matter of morality but legality. What enters the constitution should not be dependent on your belief in one god or another. Alowing religion to dictate law is unconstitutional according to the first ammendment. At least to my knowledge/interpretation. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Well aware, but that doesn't change the fact that even within those raised by christian ideals, opposers of abortion are a loud minority. Not all members are cultists, not all believers are blind. Also, if we used abrahamic religion as the point of reference, the list of negatives brought forth by their impact would be endless... No greater plague, no wider sin to the history of mankind. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 11:43 PM |
| 3 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Fair play, I did imply that, but you also chose the wrong context to express views on global population. I'll take back the implication. Moving forward, of course men get the short end of the stick. Military doctrine is archaic. The funny thing about necessity is that you're only needed when a need occurs. Its quite niche. Most governments haven't yet figured how to function propperly. Expecting them to treat their citizens right at all times is a stretch. Its Martial law that enforces that need… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.What's happening now is the opposite of representstion. Roe vs wade was overturned intentionally, against the will of the people. It was overturned by the supreme court in an attempt to give ellected representatives back control over the matter. Its in the fucking SCOTUS Initial Draft. Its also the end result of key justices being replaced by the past administration. You outright lied by calling this the will of the people. That lie, I will call you out on, because its simply crude and smells of… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.A participant in society has no right to remove the rights of another participant while both are under any presumption of egality or equity. You've further demolished your own argument. Please continue. The more you struggle to prove that spitefull and irresponsible narrative, the less work I have to do... Cheers! | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.They don't protect sll women as they don't force all men to participate. Men with 3 children or more under the age of 18 do not participate. Single fathers do not participate. Adoptive fathers do not participate. Fathers of children needing care or suffering from a disability or handicap do not participate. Men who have higher professional or higher studies do not participate. Ukraine has 200.000 professional soldiers. 300.00 reservists. Military doctrine changed only recently, the same with vie… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 11:08 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.How is it worse if ukraine repopulates? Ukraine has 44.13 milion citizens. Global population is 7.95 billion. That makes them, if my math is right, 0.55% of the global population. They wouldn't repopulate their entire population, only a small part. Natural repopulation would be done to fill the gap, which doesn't add surplus. You're literally arguing against the natural repopulation ranging in the percentage of TREMENDOUSLY LESS than 1%, because that would somehow be damaging to the planet...?! … | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 10:51 PM |
| -1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.How on earth are you so oblivious to the twisted things you utter? Do you not account for context? Must be easier that way... Context was ukraine. You knew that. You put that shirt on, now wear it... | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.We havent gone over existing risk. You just glanced over it and hope its not brought back into the picture. Again, why do you, the one not opening themselves to risk, get to tell others they should be more open to risk? By what authority do you dictate the price of life? If your next question was going to be, by what authority do women get to do so, that would be "bodily autonomy". The solution is not birth prevention, its improving economy, educstion and building solid generations for the futur… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 10:36 PM |
| -6 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.We don't. But they factor into repopulation much more than men do. Its not about breeding but rebuilding society. You're welcome to tell the next Ukranian refugee you meet, that the world is so much better now that their relatives are dead. Oh yey, the dead children of Ukraine have made the world better. Do you hear yourself? Wonderful argument, steaming with maturity and compasion Got more? | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 10:26 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Thats a huge problem and one that's been around for a long time. Men are not the primary tool for winning wars with today's rechnology, but archaic military doctrine acts much like any tradition. Its outdated, but enforced nonetheless. You can do more with air superiority, efficient information channels, and artilery than with more men than you can count. Its alrwady been proven that the terror induced by artilery bombings led more men to surrender than ahything else. Read the book "Brains and b… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 10:19 PM |
| -2 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Martial law actions are not equivalent to drafting. Drafting is done in swizerland and the last war they joined was in the 1800. Martial law takes bodily autonomy away. Martial law does not exist within civil law. Martial law overthrows civil law because it replaces the government. Under martial law, forced labour is no longer considered as such. That means doctors can be conscripted. Long haul drivers kept within the country and used on supply lines. Supply lines get hit all the time. Forced la… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Read the start of my previous comment again. I acknowledge potential. Potential does not overrule existing sentience. No argument outclasses existing sentience in favour of potential sentience. Trying to negotiate risk to one party while the party that argues the motion shoulders none of that risk is disengenous and inhumane. The equivalent would be trying to prove torture acceptable because it may end well. There's no discussion there, never was. If you can't see that you're arguing for the pot… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 09:35 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.I do not asume a fetus is flesh without potential. I simply find no data that proves flesh without sentience equivalates a human being. Even venom has potential because in the right hands it can create antivenom or lead to the development of new cures and medical solutions. That doesn't mean I equivalate venom to its processed state, nor that i'd chose to retain venom within my organism just because it may help someone someday. I might die because of it. Managin risk is not removing risk. My rig… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 09:16 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Who attacked your rights and choices? Name 5 things you can no longer enjoy or lost the right to? | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 08:39 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.I'm blaming the action of a few for the suffering of many, but i'm also blaming the many who ignore that fact and seek to redirect blame on unrelated matters. Both are guilty. One part for inhumanity, the other for unethical redirection. Im not arguing that our situation can't change. I'm arguing that how we try to change it leads to more harm than good. In order for men to have more women see our side, we must first allow the room they can occupy, and rhe means to communicate. We are too hostil… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 08:38 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.So, the bottom line is, havinng professionals that can carefully treat and inform their patients so that the best decision can be made for the health of the informed parties, primarily the woman since they are the primary sentient being involved, being the carrier of the non sentient flesh. Correct? | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 07:51 PM |
| 6 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Yes. It is. Best I can say is sorry. Sorry for how that impacted you or your loved ones. Maybe we can do better for those that come after us. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 07:27 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Yes, it absolutely isn't a good excuse and governments/cultures need to relize that, but the odds of it happening soon is...low. Which is why we need to address the impacts of tradition on existing culture, ranging from abrahamic religion impact on culture and law, all the way to the treatment of men and women in a balanced society. This issue is bigger than it seems. Much bigger. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 07:25 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN."This is exactly why men won't stand for women's issues anymore"? Oh please. Yes, because we, the rest of the men here have no choice but to condition our empathy, our kindness and ability to help and support others on the condition that we absolutely have to SEE it reciprocated immediately. That we can't be more than that. That we can't rise above that and be better, kinder, ethical, moral and overal stronger versions of what people think we are. No...we have to be spiteful and retaliatory. Tha… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 07:23 PM |
| -1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Support? I'm sorry, but what action did women take that let to men being forced into war by martial law? I can name a seemingly enless list of actions men took that got them here. The audacity to seek blame instead of seeking solutions. You've had a woman quoted in this threat that wrote articles on the inhumanity of martial law. You have women doctors and phylosophers support men's rights for paper abortion since the 90's. You're just looking for excuses to be hateful. You don't seek to underst… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 07:13 PM |
| -8 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Why is this the perfect time to being it up? You usually ask for a loan when someone looses money? | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 07:02 PM |
| -5 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Not funnyz or even intended. Just tired and missed a step. Paper abortion, financial abortion or ststutory abort is the proposed ability of the biological father, before the birth of thr child, to opt out of any rightsz priviledges and responsibilities towards the child, including financial support. A change in its early stages. We barely moved from the 1996 article from Steven Hales, regarding parental responsibility being inherent, to 2019 seein Hales goes back on that. Denmark had polls in 20… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 06:51 PM |
| -58 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Wait. This is a debate incorrectly anchored between 2 unrelated elements. A. The right of women to have an abortion within a functioning society, which is at peace. B. The way Martial Law functions and how it strips men and women of human rights. The corelation is not present. They're unrelated by nature. How do feminists factor into martial law? | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 06:27 PM |
| -4 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Sorry to break it to you, but discontinuing life support is common for badly damaged patients whose survival is highly unlikely. See Colby W.H Unplugged: Reclaiming Our Right to Die in America. AMACOM, New York, NY2006. When it comes to bringing sentience jnto this world, its not just a matter of birth, but allowing yout body to potentially be mutilated and damaged for the rest of your life, and we're not even counting psychological elements, such as post natal depression and more. There's nothi… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 06:25 PM |
| -49 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.I genuinelly can't make the mental leap now. Long day. Help me out. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 06:19 PM |
| -1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Follow-up to my earlier comment. What makes men more suited for war? Regrettably, not much, but that minor difference can help. While we can look at socioeconomic levels being asociated with leisure time physical activity, what we need to consider is "ability to perform physicslly during intense situations and for extended periods of time". Here's an example. Walking is a weight bearinf exercise that builds and maintains strong bones. Not only it improves bkne health but increases muscle strengt… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 06:19 PM |
| -1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Follow-up to my earlier comment. What makes men more suited for war? Regrettably, not much, but that minor difference can help. While we can look at socioeconomic levels being asociated with leisure time physical activity, what we need to consider is "ability to perform physicslly during intense situations and for extended periods of time". Here's an example. Walking is a weight bearinf exercise that builds and maintains strong bones. Not only it improves bkne health but increases muscle strengt… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 06:18 PM |
| -79 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Not sure i get who you mean. Which people? | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 06:02 PM |
| -2 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Brotherman, drafting and martial law are not one and the same.... Drafting is a tradition retained by functioning, peaceful societies. Martial law is the replacement of a government with a military rule, in a desperate attempt to control or win a war. These are not the same things. Not the same contexts. Equal drafting does not change the martial law stratagem or dynamic. Everything changes during martial law. We do not have the technological advancemwnts necesary to equivalate participation on … | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 06:02 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.I wouldn't put it past Merkel if she was in the same position. That being said, while I see your point, the problem is the nature of martial law, as used as an equivalent for a functional society and its views on birthrate. Have a good one! | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Interesting point, but here's my counter. Actually, calling it a non sequitur is a non sequitur fallacy. That occurs when there is not even a deceptively plausible appearance of valid reasoning, because there is an obvious lack of connextion between the given premises and the conclusion drawn from them. Bodily autonomy is only surfave level and holds no actual connection to the heart of the problem, because the premise that would lead both examples to common ground don't meet on any common groun… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 05:50 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Absolutely. Anyone under marrial law, affected by martial law is also fucked by it. Its the opposite of having rights. Anyone deemend necessary by the military leadership has their rights stripped bare. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 05:42 PM |
| -13 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Mandatory drafting is not the same as martial law. While it retains similarities it doesn't impact the force of drafting and the rules of participation the same way. For example, my father was in the military. Artilery. No war in sight. Ended the training period and became a tailor. Never fought. Never will. Martial law replaces the government with a military rule, giving it authority to sign off on any law. Its a last ditch effort in a war. Regular drafting is kept by other countries as part of… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 05:40 PM |
| -5 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.The only strange thing here is how you can quote so much but read so little. :)) Seriously, which part of "martial law is inhumane" accounts for sexism? No, really, go on. Make it make sense. You have an abundance of answers already having deconstructed your entire premise, made by me in this thread. The only fault men have, to their detriment, is being good at war. Bit enough time has passed for techological advances allowing full equivalence of fighting capacity between men and women. In short… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 05:33 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Function is prenatal. Actual sentience is post natal. 18-25 weeks is considered the earliest stage at which the lower boundary of sentience could be placed. Thats 4.14 to 5.75 months At that stage of development, there it little evidence for central processing of somatosensory information. Sentience has degrees based on intensity, duration, complexity or precision, number of qualitatively distinct experiences and organism is able to have, or the degree to which information about a senrient exper… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 05:24 PM |
| 5 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.I see your point. Sorry for dragging war elements into our discussion. It was a lingering idea from addressing other comments. That being said, birthrate decline cannot be resolved by abortiom bans. At best, it adds additional societal problems.to solve that no one needed to have to begin with. It makes it difficult, not easier to have a healthiet thriving society. I do get your point on how data can drive that argument tho. Thank you for the interaction. Have a good one! | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Follow-up to the previous comment. There is no reason a functional and peaceful society would corelate abortion rights to martial law rights. The comparison has no common leg to rest upon. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:53 PM |
| 0 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Bingo. Martial law literally allows the military to dictate laws at free will. If they though shoving babies up cannons would deter the war effort, you'd see it in the news. Hellz they strapped bombs to gods in ww2 and it wasn't even martial law. They just did it because they thought it would work. Martial law means a country is fighting for its life. Its a last resort. Any element protecting your human rights ends the moment martial law is declared. No matter what gender you have. Martial law s… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:51 PM |
| -13 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.The child exists from the moment it forms sentience. Birth is not sentience. Your argument is invalid. Abortion removes flesh, not sentience. Cheers! | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:49 PM |
| -42 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.That's just it, it does and doesn't. It affects men harder in the short run, but the impact is nearly equivalent in the long run. Short impact on men is absolutely horrendous, on the condition that you do not meet the requirements for rejecting forced participation. War effort participation is also not equivalent. Again, where you are sent depends on functionality and efficiency. You might end up lobbing mortars or cleaning kitchens. You're still on the frontline so still fucked. The next "most … | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:45 PM |
| -1 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Exhibit A. Country at peace bans abortion. Exhibit B. Country in a state of war employs martial law, cancellin the human rights of ALL those it deems non essential to the war effort. Martial law, is not civil law. Martial law is the opposite of humanity, where the military cancels out the current government as it has deemed it inneffective in the war effort, at which point all human rights go out the window. I repeat. All human rights. Its in the fucking definition... Martial law doesn't target … | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:27 PM |
| -9 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.You don't use enough words to register intelligence. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:15 PM |
| -6 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Yet...:/ Sure can live rent free in your head for a while tho. Cheers! | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:15 PM |
| -2 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Ditto. You didn't reat article 43 of the ukrainian constitution regsrding forced labour. Women aren't directed to the war effort. Are you a female long haul driver that doesn't have kids? Fuck you and good luck getting out of ukraine. Enjoy working the suplly line. Are you a female physician or paramedic? Fuck you and good luck escaping the forced labour. (55-60% of psysicians in ukraine are women, out of 132.000 registered. At best, that's about 30k women and 20k men that are stuck in ukraine b… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:13 PM |
| -17 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.The defeated troll retreats. Oh no... | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:00 PM |
| -38 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Easy on the dumbdumb juice. Special breed of troll earns internet points amidst spiteful propaganda. Your text, your reward. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 03:55 PM |
| -2 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.I understand your point, and we could certainly have that debate within normal societal conditions, but abortion rights activism takes place in a peaceful society, while the example for war participation is brought forth by martial law context which deals with non essential individuals. Men with multiple children, single parents and higher studies aren't forced to join. The list goes on. You can find it in another comment in the thread. This is not a practical comparison. Its no longer apples an… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 03:53 PM |
| -58 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.I get your point, but you do realize these 2 are fundamentally unrelated, yes? Ukraine is under martial law, which kicks out unessentials, including men with multiple chidlren or higher studies. This is about martial law, not men's rights. Martial law negates humanity in the attempt to bolster a war effort. Requesting humanity from that context is absurd. There was never any to be had in the first place. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 03:50 PM |
| -65 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.That coment was so dumb, with the speed at which Darwin spins in his grave we could harness the rotation force for unlimited energy. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 03:42 PM |
| -6 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Brace for impack bucko'! Yes, all ukranian men have the right to control their body, except for when martial law is declared in the country they're citizens off. That law also has limitatjons and exceptions as not all men are required for the war effort under the martial law. After martial law, some men retain the right. Martial law is inhumane. That also aplies to women, but within a different subset of principles. I'm gonna enjoy breaking this down to you. Martial law is the imposition of dire… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 03:31 PM |
| -17 | Nobody ever cares about "my body my choice" when the bodies belong to MEN.Its already considered a human's rights violation you propagandist nitwit. Its even covered by Amy Maguire from the University of Newcastle. Martial law was declared, which is why the ban on men 18 to 60 was enacted. God forbit you grew balls and blamed what should be blamed. Instead you strawman the shit out of it like a bot. Let's look at some contextual facts. The United Nation's charter allows Ukraine to defend itself given the illegality of the invasion: https://theconversation.com/why-bann… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 03:04 PM |
| 0 | Resolved: Feminism is evilLet's pretend you're not here in order to add a low effort gasslight or win internet points. You didn't propperly read the thread. You didn't address any of the facts brought into the discussion. You only came here with the oh so typical and inneffective "haha, x good, y bad" comment. Room temlerature IQ production. Real great stuff. You should really get your hopes up for an Oscar. You want effort? Deliver before you make a request. Its give and take, and you gave fuckall. Cheers! :* | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Resolved: Feminism is evilOh no...how dare he. :)))))) What ever will I do?! We're all fools if we learn nothing from history, or try to use it to promote easily demonstrable logical fallacies. Try again. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Resolved: Feminism is evilIf that's what you took out of the thread after reading it, then go get a refund on your school years and take a trip back to kindergarden. Learn better insults. :)))) | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Resolved: Feminism is evilAh, a uno reverse card. Come on brother, you can do better than that! | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 01:09 PM |
| 0 | Seeking insight from former feminist men or women on this site. How do feminists deny the massive number of facts showing men are disadvantaged?Batteries ran out huh? Good try! | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 01:02 PM |
| 1 | Resolved: Feminism is evilPropaganda bot got tired. Sad. I mean, look, i'll shake your hand. It was a good try. Best of luck! | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 01:00 PM |
| 0 | Seeking insight from former feminist men or women on this site. How do feminists deny the massive number of facts showing men are disadvantaged?Not a centrist. I reject group membership in principle. The very notion that beings as complex as us can be easily fit inside a label or group is ridiculous. Ultimately, everyone has a right to identify with whatever they chose. I chose to identify with nothing. I drive my existence by other rules. I do not believe in class warfare. I believe in history verifiable facts and understanding their implications. Your attempts aren't getting much better, but you're welcome to try again. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 12:57 PM |
| 1 | Resolved: Feminism is evilA. Opression does not require psychopathy. It only requires ignorance. B. Responsibilities* (edited gramar) are provided by rights in the same manner they are required. What responsibilities have women missed troughout history so that their rights would be challenged? C. I do consider the situation for men. Which is why I do not tolerate propaganda and anger bots such as yourself who seek to win internet points but never reach out to help a fellow man. You comments spew hate when they could deli… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 12:53 PM |
| 0 | Seeking insight from former feminist men or women on this site. How do feminists deny the massive number of facts showing men are disadvantaged?I'm as much pro feminism as I am pro men's rights. Which is to say that I'm neither. I do not promote warfare of any kind. History shows what we've done as much as what was done to us. I only point to history. People like you do the fighting themselves. Ever wonder why that is? :)) I do... I also don't talk to groups, I try to talk to people. Unless they're bots, but even so, everyone gets a fair shake. You're welcome to challenge me on history, young propaganda bot. Internet searches no more th… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Resolved: Feminism is evilNowhere have I stated that men are psychopatic. Your narative not mine. I addressed men's needs and wants and how incorrectly those have been directed troughout history. I come from eastern europe, a land where men were valued less than a boot with a hole in it, not too long ago. I'm well aware of the historical context of both men and women's struggles and how both sides had it bad. The problem that you're avpiding like the plague is that due to a number of variables such as religious culture a… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 12:38 PM |
| 1 | Resolved: Feminism is evilWell ain't that something. Besides deflecting and avoiding answers and fscts, do you have any other tricks up your sleeve? :))) Or did you wake up and decide that Thursdays are for propaganda from this moment on, and you're sticking with it? Good on you. Do another trick. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 12:21 PM |
| -1 | Resolved: Feminism is evilAnd here you can spot someone who's only listened to people read a holy text, never actually studying one themselves. I love triggering anger bots. You can see it when they start dodging references and call you a liar. Lovely. Expected, but still fun. Yes. That is exactly the statement I make, because its historically accurate. There is no suffering olympic. Suffering has no favorites, but we've done major harm to women troughout history, and some parts of the world continue to do so. We've also… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 12:16 PM |
| 0 | Resolved: Feminism is evilA. Most of recent culture involves a cristian religious structure of abrahamic origin. If you're unfamiliar with how that culture has devalued women troughout the years we can talk about it. B. Clear example, the american common law and its lacking functional justice untill the implementation of statuatory law. Feel free to review Bradley V State for more. This is history. Past needs, drives and wants were unethical and often immoral. In many circles they still are. You don't win this with anger… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 12:05 PM |
| -3 | Resolved: Feminism is evilAre you ok? That's a lot of word soup and poor factfinding you've got there. Tell us more about what makes you angry. Its kinda the theme here. I'll wait. :) | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 11:54 AM |
| -2 | Resolved: Feminism is evilYou ok bud? :)))) | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 11:50 AM |
| -2 | Resolved: Feminism is evilEasy there instagram... | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 11:48 AM |
| 7 | Lots of Women discovering they don’t want to be Males ….because reasonsNow now, careful handling the propaganda bot. They BSOD often. Cheers! | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 11:43 AM |
| 1 | Save Your TearsI understand your point and get where you're coming from. We need help, and there's no denying the fact that we're not handling men's issues efficiently, but efficient communication comes into play here, and this post ain't it... Talking points that I've seen on the matter tackle emotional growth, not crying per say. There's nothing wrong with crying, but it barely covers the spectrum of what emotional growth means. To me, it looks more like the people here use the belief that they're only being… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 07:03 AM |
| 2 | Save Your TearsFinal note. Sorry if it seamed i had a bone to pick with you. I don't! Thank you for interacting with me, and have a wonderful rest of the day! | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Save Your TearsI get your point, but I have a bone to pick with the framing. The framing js problematic. "I NEED HELP!" -> does not require a negative before it. "I DON'T NEED TEARS, I NEED HELP!" Is a wonderful, but entirelly uncecesary dramatic way of sayong you need help. What does crying have to do with this? Is it the crying of others to the plights of men? Is it a rebutal to being told to cry? Is the idea being presented that instead of being helped we're told to cry? What does crying have to do with it?… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 07:47 PM |
| 2 | Save Your TearsAlso, who woke up and thought "we must stop these people telling us crying fixes everything"! Who are these people? Who told you crying can fix all men's issues? In what reality is that a thing? What is the point of this post? Also, what if for some men, crying is the solution? Walk me trough that one please. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 07:29 PM |
| 2 | Save Your TearsIt said "don't need tears". Missing the point is the point. :))) Thank you for the explanation, but that should have been part of the post. Que drama I guess. Cheers! | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 07:19 PM |
| 0 | Seeking insight from former feminist men or women on this site. How do feminists deny the massive number of facts showing men are disadvantaged?I'm not a feminist, but i do enjoy talking to both sides. I haven't encountered people outright denying the suffering of others unless they were there picking s fight or had a toxic agenda. This apllies to both sides. Some people wouldn't review data and context if their life depended on it. This also applies to both sides. That's not to say there aren't radicals out there or people running low on factual informstion. Not at all. The problem is that this is a forum. Most of the discussions are n… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Save Your TearsWhoa, wait, i'm missing the point here. What's wrong with tears? What year is this? | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Feminism has a monopoly on gender equalityThere is no one true movement for equality today. In the past, sure. Feminism saught to raise women to an equal status and function. How and wether it has succesfully achieved that can be debated, as with all things. These days tho, we're just 2 children balancing a plank. We can fight about it, or play with it. If any one gets to the middle, the balance is lost. Give and take, and beware of extremists. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 08:23 AM |
| 0 | Google treats misandry like it's not realFirst, please check if your language uses "Misandry" in its english form. Borrowed words are common. Second, take a moment to consider what you're stating. "Because my language doesn't easily incorporate or translate certain words or concepts, it must mean that an online database is morally or ethically corrupt". To call it reaching would be a compliment. Please don't treat men's issues like this. Its disprespectful. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 08:10 AM |
| 1 | Banning transexual males from competing equally against women is simply admitting women are NOT as strong as men. So why is it still taboo to say this fact for men? People have had careers ruined for saying men stronger than women.This was taboo? :/ You run in some wild circles friend. I have no doubt some crazy folk out there decided to turn vengeful and damage another person's career for stating a fact, but that's all they are. Crazy people. Men have different bodies with a clear physical advantage. We should work to preserve the essence of competition towards the betterment of us all. Have a good one! | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 07:59 AM |
| -1 | women are overvalued while men are devaluedYou've just stated absolutes, but provided no evidence in support. That marks this as a post intended to seek validity trough emotional response. In short...a manupulative bait. If that was your intent, its disappointing. If that was not your intent, then please provide evidence that supports your claim. Have a good one! | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 07:47 AM |
| 0 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?I don't see how the example in OP's post relates to feminism. I always look behind me. Once to get an idea of what's there, and twice to validate the speed at which things behind me approach. This entire post feels like a bait. What exactly are you angry at OP? | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 07:40 AM |
| 1 | Toxic masculinity is a symptom of the Patriarchy, enforced by men, for men, right? And women hate it and suffer under it helplessly, right?Ha, a TF2 refference. Bueno! :D This wasn't a fight. At leat, I hope I didn't come off that way, altough my first argument regarding Jodie Foster stands...I have a knee jerk reaction when it comes to celebrities saying dumb shit. Your points have value. I'm a random Joe from the other end of the world. I'm not a doctor. My research is limited. Maybe I didn't look into enough, maybe I'm missing something. Then again, maybe you are. We communicate, we share, we learn. I appreciate your time! Have … | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Toxic masculinity is a symptom of the Patriarchy, enforced by men, for men, right? And women hate it and suffer under it helplessly, right?What you've shown above with those examples is part of "cultural trend". You wouldn't see that in eastern europe. You'd be chased away by a babushka holding the deadliest weapon known to man...the flipflop... Jokes asside, this element of "cultural trend" (being popularized outside the norm of psychologicsl issues and past abuse elements) is quite recent. Historically, masculinity has seen a number of different faces. The badboy has grown consistently, but it ran in paralel with the countercultu… | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Toxic masculinity is a symptom of the Patriarchy, enforced by men, for men, right? And women hate it and suffer under it helplessly, right?Follow-up to the recent comment made. You may find this study interrsting. Not sure if the link will take. I've had some that were instantly blocked: https://www.walshmedicalmedia.com/open-access/women-attracted-to-incarcerated-men-a-case-study-2573-4598-1000139.pdf | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Toxic masculinity is a symptom of the Patriarchy, enforced by men, for men, right? And women hate it and suffer under it helplessly, right?Hybristophilia, a great find however, regrettably not what you think it is. It was demonstrated to be linked to victims of abuse, both men and women (which is why it used to be called "the bonnie and clyde syndrome") but it shows up predominantly in women, marked by at least six months of symptoms, including sexual urges, fantasies and behaviours involving suffering. This is sepparate to a cultural trait. This is just human suffering with a twist. Its why I said that, in the form of a cultural t… | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Toxic masculinity is a symptom of the Patriarchy, enforced by men, for men, right? And women hate it and suffer under it helplessly, right?Its a statistical blip because the very stats you share* [edited gramar] have a limited historical context driven by a limited cultural context. | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 05:21 PM |
| -8 | I asked why I need Men's Rights, well this is why.Do you need mens rights forums, or do you need justice, fairness and health? | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 04:25 PM |
| 3 | Toxic masculinity is a symptom of the Patriarchy, enforced by men, for men, right? And women hate it and suffer under it helplessly, right?Well organised comment! Historically, we've seen different cultures color masculinity different. Much like people thought thongs were sexy only a few years back, each culture, trough what it promotes, can create different symbols of attraction. Don't get me wrong, much of the core reasons remain the same, but "the bad boi shtick" wasn't as predominant far back as it was in a limited timeframe lf american history. It js entirely true that it was predominant during that time, but again, this was b… | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 12:17 PM |
| 0 | Toxic masculinity is a symptom of the Patriarchy, enforced by men, for men, right? And women hate it and suffer under it helplessly, right?Yes, lets start a gender fight based on the whims of some holywood rich folk...because they're so connected to the real world.... What? Are you fucking serious? Who put salt in your coffee? | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Dave Chappelle | Do You Know What A Feminist Is? #shortsEqual rights for A in a context of A and B, means bringing A to the level of B, or viceversa. If either A or B is not equal to the other, a request for equality intends to make them equal to the other. Balance, not imbalance...because the absence of balance created the request for equality. How did you take "making equal to..." so out of context that you endedtup with that imbalance nonsense? Where exactly did you find the implication in that joke that women don't believe in equal rights for men… | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 12:05 PM |
| 2 | Mum used boy as 'sexual play thing' and even had a baby with himThat's fucked up. | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 11:28 AM |
| 3 | It is time for men to have their own version of "feminism".Oh, my bad sister. As for your question, be sure that someone will jump in with some headline about what would ultimately be a genuine issue for some folks, but here, used to somehow discredit a reality check. I can't think of a freedom or joy I'm missing. They're all there. The funny part is that i'm dating a hard core feminist. Not one propaganda instance. Not one attempt to change me. Does that mean everyone's like her? Does it mea she has no faults? Does it mean I have no faults? Fuck nah. W… | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 07:17 AM |
| -7 | It is time for men to have their own version of "feminism".I get you...but... Tell that to the rage bois and angry bots that wouldn't learn a page of history if Jesus came down to cram it trough their ears. Look at what these people have made the mens rights forums into. We've all seen posts like these: Suffering olimpics. "Wamen bad because they no want my peepee". Legal system unballanced, must be woman fault. Endless streams of unrelatwd whataboutism. Can't think of a valid argument, will delete posts then. If woman gets an apple, I also deserve an a… | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 06:44 AM |
| 4 | Aren't men superior than women? because he calls himself HE?Was food too spicy bud? Are you good? | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 02:04 PM |
| 1 | It's ridiculous millions of young men let feminists win. Where is real leadership?Where is real whatnow? Please provide a clear example of real leadership! | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 02:03 PM |
| 4 | Thoughts on DNA test?Agreed with testing. You'd both have to raise that child. Lies never really escape. They always find some way to poison the well. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 01:41 PM |
| 0 | The real reason why most men in my life have always regretted opening about their emotionsWhy must people use suicide rates with so much pride. Its like the suffering of others is somehow their biblical cross to bear. You think you don't but its plastered everywhere. You think people somehow forgot? I guarantee they haven't! I mean, here you go advertising the same childish stoic nonsence that people push like its the cure for fucking cancer. Stop it. You're upset. And legitomately so, but your upset doesn't justify talking out of your ass. "Men regret opening up?" Everyone has momen… | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 12:57 PM |
| 2 | I got accused of rape at schoolSure thing! Keep your chin up and remember to take a deep breath when your chest tightens. Drink enough water, and don't skip on your sleep. I knownits tough, but you need to stay well rested. Step out of your head every now and then. Once you start focusing on your worries for too long, that will become a vortex of dread that sucks you in. I suppose that by now you have a lawyer, so you would have professional legal support. I wish you the verry best of luck! | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 11:46 AM |
| 9 | I got accused of rape at schoolThere's also this: https://www.suttondefencelawyers.co.uk/articles/what-to-do-when-falsely-accused-of-a-sexual-offence.html | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 04:12 PM |
| 11 | I got accused of rape at schoolI'm not qualified to throw an opinion but I found this trough a google search: https://www.hmichaelsteinberg.com/ten-things-to-do-when-falsely-accused-of-sexual-assault.html I hope it helps. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 04:11 PM |
| 5 | if men are getting soft, what about women?Men are getting soft? How? I don't see it. People are products of their time, place and culture. Be carefull when drawing connections based on the impression of a fact absent of data proving the fact. Sure, relationships aren't what they were, but we don't know if that's good or bad, nor do we know what things will turn into in the future. We make it happen as we go along. For as long as we treat people well, I don't think we're headed off to someplace bad. Also note that economy plays a big par… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Do/should men dye their hair? And if so, what kind of dye should I use?Paint your hair however you want. Its yours. Own it and enjoy it. Can also ask a professional for tips/options depending on hair length and more. Cheers! | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 03:53 PM |
| 0 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Ya gotta love watching anger bots who leach off the group delete their shitstains after they realise they went to far. You go, you majestic creatures! You go! | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 11:17 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Mirroring, where immagination goes to die. We gather here today to honour a fallen anger bot that ran out of ways to poison the waters. A sad day indeed. Time to make tea. :)) | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 11:13 AM |
| 1 | Why don’t fathers get a say in legal actions involving their child?Let's do a recap. You made a statement that was proven false. You took out of the argument's data the only possible context you could use to feed your narrative, which again was proven false, and addressed none of the counter arguments, but somehow you're right. (Somehow palpatine came back.) Oh, no...you're doing fine buddy. Keep going!:* Upgrade that firmware anger bot. You got this! | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 11:09 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Oh no, it ran out of ideas. :/ Its sad to watch. I had such high hopes... | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 11:07 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Oh no, it ran out of ideas. :/ Its sad to watch. I had such high hopes... | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 11:07 AM |
| -2 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 11:06 AM |
| 0 | Why don’t fathers get a say in legal actions involving their child?Texas familly laws you dunce. Its also a custody case meaning thst the parameters of the case already don't match your example. You said there'd be no choice but to pay untill the child is 18. There is choice. That choice is also affected by texas familly law and the context of the case. This is already hinted at in my reply. Not that you'd know what the difference is. Try harder. All that schooling and this is the best you come up with. Little angry bot being petty is adorable! Go on, try takin… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 11:04 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Do carry on. I plan on keeping this fire going and you seem to have plenty of wood. Might be a beacon for others like you who seek to leach off more of the movement's lifeblood. You go anger bot! :)) | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 11:01 AM |
| 0 | Why don’t fathers get a say in legal actions involving their child?Not true. You actually have a form for being released from parental rights. The challengen is state laws, but you can legally be released from parental responsibility. The method of terminating parental rights may also vary depending on state. Texas has familly laws which can be an obstacle or a much needed break depending on context. You don't study much...do you: https://texaslawhelp.org/article/terminating-parental-rights-answers-to-frequently-asked-questions Expected. :)) | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 10:56 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.To run out of arguments, I'd have to have arguments to refute, but there aren't any as everything you've done is try to force unrelated topics in an unrelated thread and I promptly cut you off at every turn. The thread is a testament to the faults outlined in my first comment and the failure of men like you to gain any traction towards posotive growth. You try to shove your way towards a better futhre while retaining everything about yourself that is obnoxious and destructive. The rest of us jus… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 10:54 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Anger bot is improvising. Go on buddy, you got this! :)) | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 10:46 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.:))))) Did you just try to pull of a uno reverse card? This is adorable. I'm saving it. Thank you! | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 10:45 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Wait, so...you mean you ignored my argument regarding "unloading things in someone's front yard" and how unproductive that is, and you're only starting to connect the dots now? This is so much fun. Go on buddy, you're almost there. :D Try a bit harder and you'll almost understand how this was already addressed in the thread as counterproductive demeanour. OP's post is literally about communication failure, whicu you repeatedly demonstrate. Do another trick! :)) | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 10:05 AM |
| 0 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Facts? Only fact here is that you came to argue and avoided relevant context like the plague. You embody the anger bot ideals by trying to force arguments where they have no connection or need no connection, so you csn poison the waters and feel good that you've somehow prooven a point. The only point you're proving is that you're absolutely unreliable and toxic. Mens rights movements should rid themselves of leaches like you that feed of of its lifeblood and poison it with hostility. My comment… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 10:02 AM |
| 3 | Most women good, most men badWorld's a box of shit. We just happen to have names and the occasional expression of individuality. Gender is irrelevant. Suffering has no favorites. Best of luck to ya! | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 09:56 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.You spent nearly an entire day and full set of answers being a baiting anger bot and are surprised your actions and those of people like you can have consequences? Sure, you didn't run OP out of the house but you sure as shit sang in the tune of everyone else that did.:)) Must be another one of those things you think no one sees clearly and you get away with it, but people actually do and label you an anger bot from the first few minutes. And you weren't the only one. Thread is full of it, thus … | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 09:46 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.You haven't tried talking to the OP once. Walk away angry bot. Come back when your priorities change. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 09:37 AM |
| 2 | I have always made this a comment but I feel I need to state it in its own post regarding abortion rights.There's a voluntary termination of parental rights form you can fill in. Found this: https://texaslawhelp.org/article/terminating-parental-rights-answers-to-frequently-asked-questions Haven't researched enough about where and how it applies. Does every state have something like that? I'm also unfamiliar with Texas family code, but I know that plays a big part on the final decisiom for such applications. Any public resources I could read to get a better grasp on the issue and its context? Could y… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 09:25 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Its also about men's rights activists and rhe inneficient way we communicate between parties. You only read half of the context. This gets better and bettet every time. No...please don't stop. :))) Add more, its absolutely fucking hilarious. Do another trick! | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 09:19 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Simple. Instead of addrsssing OP and having a conversation, you made this about feminists in general. You also put all of your effort (pointlessly so) into dragging the discussion into a space you've prepared arguments for (another anger bot trait), despite that topic space being irrelevant to the context of the initial interaction, which you've tried to use as a source of discontent. Do you think we're blind? Brotherman, Stevie Wonder can see trough such thin gaslighting... Did you actually thi… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 09:15 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.A. You're the only one that made the blanked statement that all feminists want to work together in an attempt to dismantle a take only you ultimately had. B. You've never proven that OP is an imposter nor demonstrated your take on the situation. C. My post is a reaction to the simple nature of the post and the reaction and demeanour of the people in the comments. You have literally proven my initial comment correct. You've taken things out of context in order to feed anpersonal narative. You've … | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 07:32 AM |
| 5 | A look at female power by proxy: the Roman Empress Agrippina, her husband Claudius, and her son NeroAmazing post. Well presented, researched and worded out. This was pretty cool to read! I appreciate the effort you put into it! | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 07:22 AM |
| 3 | Working Men’s DayLove it, but I'm concerned about logistics. At best, you can have it in the same month, but not the same day globally. Cheers! | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 07:19 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.This was my original statement: "I love seeing how people that complain about toxicity also downvote someone for wanting to find ways to work together. The irony has a strong, silly smell there. Cheers toxic peeps. Never change yer spitefull ways." The OP actually says that the problem is on both sides of the fence and gives credit to some of the points we make about failure to communicate. A point I make here as well and one you've so excelently proven, you debate chumbucket you...Mwah!:* My po… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 07:04 AM |
| 2 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Waste your time? Easy there princess, I didn't even know you existed untill you got your panties in a bunch on this thread. The problem was shitty demeanour and how it undermines your own arguments and needs which you've done time and time again here by the way, further cementing the point. The initial assertion that people like you don't want to work with people they solely intend to argue with is further supported by this. You've literally added more weight to my initial argument. Congratulati… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 06:54 AM |
| 2 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels."Why are you so afrait fo face the truth?" Well shucks Moses, take a break there yea? Don't split my soup in half! "Truth." We're using big words today. Do another bait! :)) Does this thing take coins? | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 06:21 AM |
| 2 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Oh, something doesn't happen when you want it to? Clear sign of incompetence from the other party. Is "you don't have the balls" even an insult? Are you ok? Yes, mighty overlord, let me just derail my schedule to prove you a point by posting something rashly and without taking time and consideration to research the full complexity of the topic Fuckin' hilarious. People like you are always irresponsible with their posts and wonder why the traction is shit. Proving you're right by proving you're w… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 06:19 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.Yes. Working together requires patience and compromise. What it doesn't need is children throwing a fit. Go to your room. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 05:58 AM |
| 2 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.And who the fuck said anything about fixing feminists. Is everything you got, a collection of titles, baits and narrative quotes? That it? What's next? | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 05:57 AM |
| 2 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.No cold feet. Just proving a point. You couldn't persuade a fish to go into water yet you complain about people not being on board with you. There's no pretending. You have a shit demeanour that undermines any value you try to put forward. Try embodying a value for a while, you may pick up a thing or two. Try again. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 05:56 AM |
| 1 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.I love how every single time there's a chance for a constructive discussion, some champ like you thinks that the best foot forward is going to the other side's camp and literally unloading their concerns like they're dumping trash on the front lawn. You lie in wait for the perfect "oh YEAH?!?" moment. You're hopeless. Any other party tricks or was that it? | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 05:51 AM |
| 2 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.The expectations were low but man, you missed making sense of that one by a mile. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 05:44 AM |
| 1 | One of the most telling criticism of Men’s Rights Activists is when they are called Incels. So sex has nothing to do with gender rights unless it’s a man advocating for his legal rights. Then it’s down to the fact he can’t get laid.Looked it up after the previous comment. Still have questions. See follow-up comment. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 05:42 AM |
| 2 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.@Bisexolar14 u/Bisexolar14 Unsure if any of those formats worked for pinging OP as I'm on mobile, but I hope one of them did. Feel free to ping in follow-up comment (ifnitnworks that way) and let's all have a chat. Let's ask OP why they decided to have this interaction. A. What was the overal goal. B. What was thw expected outcome. C. Was the expected outcome matched. Those should be interesting points for debate. Cheers. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 11:53 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Her movement wasn't hijacked by the feminist. Her efforts were being hijacked by the state long before. I do have to point out how absolutely hilarious it is to spot your carefuly done context cherrypicking. Radical feminists and some of the regular breed certainly showed hostility towards her but major oppositon came from the state starting with her first shelter for women. Her second attempt had little to no traction left as she was already losing traction after the first. The fact that men we… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 11:01 PM |
| 1 | One of the most telling criticism of Men’s Rights Activists is when they are called Incels. So sex has nothing to do with gender rights unless it’s a man advocating for his legal rights. Then it’s down to the fact he can’t get laid.Follow-up: All I could find is a study in 2001 from the journal of sex research linking involuntary celibacy to frelings of anger, frustration, self doubt and even depression. Not a field I've researched much, so, any links or quotes you can provide would be appreciated. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 10:11 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Here's that 4th grader gasslighting again. You revert back to that whenever you make wild statements you offer no proof for. The people i spoke to on this platform had the decency to back up their arguments. You're welcome to prove where I was proven wrong, but you can't because there is no such segment. The discussions were constructive. You could provide a paragraph, but given the effort you've shown during this discussion, I can't wait to see what out of context nonsence you come up with. You… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 09:26 PM |
| -11 | saying all feminists are radical misandrists is the same as saying all mens rights activists are like incels.I love seeing how people that complain about toxicity also downvote someone for wanting to find ways to work together. The irony has a strong, silly smell there. Cheers toxic peeps. Never change yer spitefull ways. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 08:43 PM |
| 1 | One of the most telling criticism of Men’s Rights Activists is when they are called Incels. So sex has nothing to do with gender rights unless it’s a man advocating for his legal rights. Then it’s down to the fact he can’t get laid.Is that a medical diagnosys/therapy diagnlsis or some sort of labeling people came up with? | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 08:33 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?I'm guessing you're american, and if you are, this is gonna be a laugh. IF you aren't then you're just doing poor research so you're half forgiven. First of all - voting right comes from the constitution and its amendment. Citizenship is granted based on being born in us soil, being born to US parents, or applying for citizenship. Outside citizen application needs to not apply to regular citizens. They become citizens at birth based on birth context. "The 14th Amendment extends citizenship to al… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 08:27 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?level 3RepresentativeFew553 · 1 hr. ago u/RepresentativeFew553 Alright - you had plenty of prep-time, its my turn. Let's play. Erin Pizzey attended took her first activism steps via the 1959 WLM, which was a radical women liberation movement in Europe. You all scratch your ass and spit at the idea of radical feminists, and here you are, using a previously radical feminism activist as an example for mens rights movement efforts. I know the irony of that fact will go right over your head, but its … | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 07:53 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Wait, so you mean to say that people weren't as open minded 50 fucking years ago? Shucks Steve, you fucking got me. The previous discussion addressed the right tk vote and how absolutely irrelevant the premise of war participation for general population was towards getting rights to vote. 99% of it was completely unrelated actually, with the exception of certain minorities being granted citizenship. Thank fuck you people get an education and can read a paragraph. God forbid you actually understo… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 06:16 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?I find your little "you're not right because I say so" argument a joy to read. I enjoy the chaos people like you sew. I like watching you all fight. Not because you have to, but because you're wiring eachother to be spiteful and angry. To create your own sufferinf so you can then complain about suffering. You rarely provide context, demonstrable facts or put any effort into proving a point and when you do, its taken out of context. You generally squirm at the mere thought that your position coul… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Why don’t fathers get a say in legal actions involving their child?Absolutely. I don't discriminate idiocy based on gender. I spent years racing my organism trough every possible self destructive shit I could get my hands on. I drank like a fish and fucked like a rabbit while smoking like a train in a tunnel. Its idiotic at best, but I was aiming for self destruction with some flair to it. I was my own fuckup. I own my fuckups. Any shit that followed was mine to deal with. We can talk about upbringing. We can talk about trauma, hell, we can list a number of thi… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 03:41 PM |
| 0 | Why don’t fathers get a say in legal actions involving their child?Maybe he should be more responsible of his welbeing and avoid walking trough life like its a theme park where nothing can go wrong. What if he's drunk and gets taken advantage of? So let me get this straight. He gets drunk and fucks a stranger, and then he gets his rubber of someway or another. (Somehow, Palpatine returned....kek) It has to be a stranger, otherwise I don't understand why you would leave yourself so vulnerable and open and then wonder why shit went south... You can't say you have… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 03:11 PM |
| -4 | Why don’t fathers get a say in legal actions involving their child?Addressing male sexual accountability will see any argument be met with a swift death on these forums. How dare you be reasonable, heathen?! Cheers! | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 03:06 PM |
| 2 | Why don’t fathers get a say in legal actions involving their child?Child support is enforced by the system and existing laws. The right to abortion and final say in the matter belongs to the body that has to risk its health haulling along that extra mass of flesh. Individuals should protect their existence and wellbeing from unnecessary damage, and like it or not, pregnancy can be exactly that. Absolutely unnecessary damage. That's all there is to it. You wanna blame people for how shitty child support can be? Look at the laws that led us to this point in time.… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 03:03 PM |
| 2 | Found this comment on YouTube. I DO NOT TAKE CREDIT!A mastery in corporate puppetry. Yes, lets blame the women for why there isn't enough money to go around. Not like there could be other reasons for that. Right? Can't possibly be, no? There's absolutely no way we're working for scraps while CEO's pile cash like its 2020's toiletpaper shortage...RIGHT? ...Sigh... If people would just stop trying to pick fights with their neighbours, that would be nice for a change. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Am I the only one who has the feeling that the further politically left a woman is leaning the more they are sexist and have misandry?Any extreme usually opens the door to a world of shit. It is what it is. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 01:43 PM |
| -4 | One of the most telling criticism of Men’s Rights Activists is when they are called Incels. So sex has nothing to do with gender rights unless it’s a man advocating for his legal rights. Then it’s down to the fact he can’t get laid.Oh, gosh darn it, not the mean names again... Tzk! | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 01:39 PM |
| -1 | One of the most telling criticism of Men’s Rights Activists is when they are called Incels. So sex has nothing to do with gender rights unless it’s a man advocating for his legal rights. Then it’s down to the fact he can’t get laid.Ah, good ol' passive aggressive behaviour. By its definition, as applied to the behaviour of a person, it means "persistently annoying or finding fault with someone". Now why would you give such a person any of your time? You'd only disrespect yourself if you do. Big red flag. Turn away from that, and enjoy your day, friend! | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 01:37 PM |
| 0 | One of the most telling criticism of Men’s Rights Activists is when they are called Incels. So sex has nothing to do with gender rights unless it’s a man advocating for his legal rights. Then it’s down to the fact he can’t get laid.What are "actual incels"? | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 01:31 PM |
| 1 | What is their aim?Follow-up to my previous comment from about an hour ago. Let's put the final nail in this topic with the use of proper reference. A. 1776 - Only people who own land can vote. Given english common law roots, only men could own land. Decleration of independence signed. Right to vote during colonial and revolutionary period is restricted to property owners, most of whom were white male Protestants over the age of 21. New Jersey constitution of the same year enfranchised all adult inhabitants who ow… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 07:24 AM |
| 1 | What is their aim?A. You can make it clearer by providing reference, which you don't. Within which context did women refuse tbe right to vote. Please provide the reference. (I'll do it for you tho, its ok) B. This disucssion is about right to vote. You refer to men having additonal responsibilities in today's society, but we don't. Feel free to list them out and provide reference. Let's do a little reality check: https://time.com/5879346/19th-amendment-facts-myths/ Some women opposed the 19th Amendment. Equally s… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 05:33 AM |
| 1 | What is their aim?"Theres a 19 year difference between equal voting for men and women. Women haven't had to fight a single war, fight a single fire, or do any of the other shit men had to for the same thing." Its literally in your starting argument. Why follow up with this? "I never said it was, I said it was a requirement to vote because it was. You also never addressed bucket brigades or really anything else I said but ok." We ain't blind, and we can sniff a fight baiting argument miles away. You seem to be the… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/22 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Now that the Johnny Depp saga is over, it's time for the Marilyn Manson sequel.The problem with that is: A. What type of case if filled. B. What type of evidence is available. C. How competent is the legal team. Immagine having stolen a piece of bread 6 years ago, with no cammeras around, and only rumors and a bystander seeing you run. Its reasonable to think that absence of evidence neither confirms nor denies a statement. At the end of the day, we can only work with what we can reliably proove, but we should never forget that what we can prove is ultimately subjective an… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/22 01:01 PM |
| 2 | Interesting "debate" about male privilegePrivilege? That shit's individual. Its not a group benefit. And even at an individual level, its highly context dependent. Friend from Scandinavia. Great background. Had PTSD. Friend from early years had rich parents. Brain tumor right before his 18th birthdat. List goes on...life sucks. It must be quite the privileged individual, to be using the idea of priviledge so lightly and with so little concern for its complexity. How little we've learned about life if we end up thinking that suffering h… | /r/MensRights | 03/06/22 03:52 PM |
| -1 | Male Privilege is a Myth | Change My Mind (3rd Edition) | Louder with Cr...That's an oversimplification of both historical context and implication. Everything from the system of rights, family authority, legal authority, property ownership and more, was historically impacted by what you try to deny with that oversimplification. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 08:28 PM |
| 2 | Why are prominent feminists now advocating for an inquisitorial system?Thank you for the follow-up! We certainly can't ignore facts or the possibility of their existence.What we can lean hard on - is evidence and a good way of producing that is reporting. In Amber's case, calling the cops at their home didn't work in her favor, as the 2 officers that were there in the first or follow-up visit were 1 male, and 1 female and had, I believe, personal cameras and took statements. (I may be wrong, but I'm running on memory on this one) What was stated to have happened pr… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Why are prominent feminists now advocating for an inquisitorial system?Great set of points! Indeed - the systems have strengths and weaknesses, and we don't really know what would happen if they were mixed. How would they be mixed? There are courts of law in the world that prefer to mix and match, but the efficiency of that is not something I've looked into yet. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Men' s Rights , Libertarianism and ConservativismI really wish that was the case. Its more a case of "no one wants to claim them". Look up PiS. Right wing populist Law and Justice party. Polish case, 2015. Female priminister Beata Maria Szydlo was a member. Ideologically conservative, promotes traditional and national values and is supported by the Catholic church. Rejects "gender ideologies" and is reluctant to implement feminist policies. She's currently a vice-chajr of the European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR) group in the European Pa… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Why are prominent feminists now advocating for an inquisitorial system?Now - let's follow the idea that Johnny Depp had a big bad set of secrets that weren't unveiled during the trial. First - I must point out that Amber Heard's team should have been able to at least point towards some case-building facts that would have at least led to the unanimous decision being avoided. Even though its an adversary court, its not incompetent in its research and ability to address evidence, although a point could be made that the judge can't interfere if "presentation is insuffi… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 05:23 PM |
| 2 | Why are prominent feminists now advocating for an inquisitorial system?Thank you for the follow-up! I'm moving to a computer to send this, as I had worded my entire reply on my phone, switched to chrome to copy a link and when I returned - my comment was gone as I hadn't hit send. Big brain derp on my part. So - here's the French Civil code - 2020: https://www.fd.ulisboa.pt/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Codigo-Civil-Frances-French-Civil-Code-english-version.pdf PDF - a lot of slides. For those interested, you can give it a good read but its a lot - and it takes quite … | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 05:05 PM |
| 1 | "Jury Gave Me My Life Back": Johnny Depp After Defamation VerdictI agree with you on all of your points. I find it important to avoid biased approaches to sensitive matters due to the ease with which a train can be hopped onto. Thank you for replying. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Why are prominent feminists now advocating for an inquisitorial system?I should have worded my comment better. My fault, I apologize. Much of the flack that the trial result is getting, is ultimately the result of Johnny being human. Amber Herd is also human. Humans are flawed. We can shine bright one day and be avsolute shit the next. Focusing on the person too much and not enough on the trial and what it represents can do more bad than good. It was also a defamation trial. Abuse was a highly relevant topic indeed, but only part of what was addressed. One of the m… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 04:08 PM |
| -1 | "Jury Gave Me My Life Back": Johnny Depp After Defamation VerdictWe need less people cherry picking things out of context and angrily throwing words at strangers just because the prefer caution to frustration induced blind optimism. The irony in calling someone else ignorant and stupid while that person's advicating for much needed care and consideration is just sad. He has shown the entire world that he was defamed. He won a defamation case. Abuse context was secondary, and not the trial premise. Not once have I said this doesn't raise awareneas. Not that yo… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Why are prominent feminists now advocating for an inquisitorial system?I disagree. What I've observed is different, but I appreciate the different point of view. Maybe I'm wrong. Thank you stranger! | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 03:33 PM |
| 2 | Why are prominent feminists now advocating for an inquisitorial system?I completely agree with that, however we're glancing over how people approach the resolution and the perspective they have of the man involved. I call this the Elon Musk syndrome. Result is great for a number of reason. I find it irresponsible to stop there tho. I think the biggest challenge starts now. Our behaviour will be under more scrutiny than ever. If we trully care about people benefiting from the aftermath of this trial, I think we need to be there for eachother and stop ourselves from … | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 03:31 PM |
| -5 | "Jury Gave Me My Life Back": Johnny Depp After Defamation VerdictSame landscape as everyone elses arse I presume. Publicity for unspoken victims? Are you gonna be who they call when they think they can pull of what Johnny Dep did, without his money? Are you going to be the net for all the men tha might fall when they realise change doesn't happen from chasing idols? When they figure out that this isn'r enough. That it isn't the way? Everyone's ready to beat their chests to the sound of the drums of war, but not because someone is suffering, but because there'… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 03:18 PM |
| 2 | Why are prominent feminists now advocating for an inquisitorial system?Thank you for the follow-up. I believe that can be one take and an entirely valid one, but I was leaning on another mater. I believe that none of it requires cult idols. You can always use analysis in order to better understand something, and learn from this event we certainly should, but without idolozing a person. * (edited) Awareness is always welcome. But visibility does not require idolatry, and we must be very careful that trough our need of heroes, we do not remove from the equation the v… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Love yourselvesThank you stranger! Have a wonderful day! | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 02:37 PM |
| 0 | Why are prominent feminists now advocating for an inquisitorial system?People need to stop idolizing this trial. I get that everyone nees a "hero" of sorts, but, that's not healthy. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 02:33 PM |
| -5 | Male Privilege is a Myth | Change My Mind (3rd Edition) | Louder with Cr...Its part of history and past culture. Calling it a myth is incorrect. Its effect on current society is debatably less. Extracting an accurate measure is beyond my capabilities. Most christian doctrine heavily relies on patriarchal authority and its existence within most cultures is undeniable. While said cultures can variate in how they see and treat women, the idea that the patriarchy is a myth screams of how little research and debate has been done before making this post. On the other hand, t… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 02:29 PM |
| 2 | I found these, and I genuinely think it’s a good idea for a proper movement to move away from feminism and towards a more egalitarian movement. Thoughts?A lot of posts in this group are anything but egalitarian... This movement is more and more about winning, and in turn, les and less about balance. The irony is, you can't win against a side that you mirror. All you end up doing, is escalating, and then the other side mirrors. There's got to be a better way. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 02:23 PM |
| 0 | Now that the Johnny Depp saga is over, it's time for the Marilyn Manson sequel.Hitchen's razor. "Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur." What is asserted without reason (or proof), may be denied without reason (or proof). - Rest well old man. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 02:17 PM |
| 18 | Heard Blasted Over Statement: ‘Doesn’t Realize How Much Damage Her Lies Have Done’ To ‘Abuse Victims’People trapped in a bubble of their own making don't let themselves see out of it. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 02:13 PM |
| -11 | "Jury Gave Me My Life Back": Johnny Depp After Defamation VerdictI'm astonished how easily other men create idols out of simple, flawed human beings. I can only immagine that its done out of a demented need to compete in a form of victimhood olympics. This was a defamation trial. The internet is not a healthy environment. Its a forestfire that can't wait for another one of ya' to light up and burn more of the world, and more of the good in you with it. This is not a gender war. It never has been. It needs to stop before it becomes one. That man won a defamati… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Men' s Rights , Libertarianism and ConservativismGreat point! Thank you for the message. They say it takes a village. I don't have children so I wouldn't know much about raising one, but I sure could have benefitted being raised by a village compared to my actual experience. Suffering has no favorites. It doesn't see gender. If it can exist, it will. In my experience, limited as it may be, I found that it only has that one rule. At the end of the day, we're competing over a silhouette in the mist. Nothing there except what's in our head. Probl… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 01:42 PM |
| 7 | I’m terrified for my countryStop looking at it. You're on reddit. How are you surprised that the internet is a vortex of shit? And why are you forming opinions and concerns based on shit? Should you build a bunker because aliens wanna steal our showergell? Bruh... | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 01:07 PM |
| 1 | The Jury decision in the Johnny Depp case is "unanimous"This is a defamation case. Defamation was clearly proven. The fact that its unanimous has nothing to do with gender. It has everything to do with his legal team's efforts. And...yeah...money. The fuck-ton of money thrown at this trial so that the necessary level of clarity could be provided for the jury to make its decision. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Ben Chew: "We are also most pleased that the trial has resonated for so many people in the public who value truth and justice. Now that the jury has reached its conclusive verdict it's time to turn the page and look into the future." NO MENTION of the significance of the ruling for men as a wholeThere shouldn't be a major significance of the ruling for men as a whole. This was a complex defamtion case that had so much money thrown at it that I don't think you really understand what you think you understand. This wasn't a victory for men. It wasn't a loss for women. It was the victory of some rich person with issues over some other rich person with issues. I doubt anyone in this thread can affort his legal team. What are you going on about?! | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 01:00 PM |
| 0 | A study gave cash and therapy to men at risk of criminal behavior. 10 years later, the results are in.Liberian life expectancy is 64 years. American life expectancy, for example, is 78 years. Trying to discredit a solution for not being perfect within country that's dealing with a tremendous number of challenges is simply irrational and irresponsible. I've seen some of your comments about how the study doesn't prove much, and I'm thankful everyday that people like you have no social, scientific or political authority... | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 12:56 PM |
| -1 | Let today be the END of "Believe all women"-a sexist TOXIC rejection of mens legal rights, & right to a fair trial Women used it to ruin COUNTLESS men with fake claims & fake tears. Lets end feminists male witchhunts, & end shaming men as "toxic" for simply EXISTING. The tide is TURNING!Dep won a defamation case. An extremely expensive and complex defamation case. That's all that was. I understand the desperation of shortcut solutions that get us all to "some better place" but this trial wasn't it. The load of work that lies ahead of us has not lessened. Nothing in this context merits the war on the opposite gender that you so eagerly seem to await. That is not the way. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 12:48 PM |
| 1 | This a huge step forward for male victims of domestic violence and hopefully encourages them to seek help.Yes and no. This was a defamation trial. Be careful when turning a flawed person into a symbol of victory as ther's no justice in that, for you or for that person. People are allowed to be flawed and the stardard should stop there. Also, as this was only a defamation trial and a particularly expensive one, i think its best we teach people how to stay away from trouble. Its far cheaper than the attorney fees. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 12:44 PM |
| 5 | Men' s Rights , Libertarianism and ConservativismWe do the same to feminists. Let's slow down there bud. This became a gender war. Both sides fucked up. Point should be "how do we do better". Cheers. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 12:35 PM |
| -1 | A victory against the Feminist ideology: Depp WINS! Amber Heard FOUND GUILTY of defamation (Johnny Depp has WON his defamation case against Amber Heard. Heard was found guilty of defamation on ALL counts by a unanimous jury)!This was a defamation trial, not the gender olympics. Chill. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 12:33 PM |
| 2 | Follow Up Post on a comment chain: Another user had a lot of things to say to me. They seemed to have gone through my entire comment history and attacked me personally and degraded me a whole lot. Some of this stuff is on a tight rope between comical and worrying.Ah, the internet toxicity whackamole. Good luck! | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 12:32 PM |
| -1 | Just been told that being a man makes me unfit for a job application, not the first time it has happenedMarketplace. Some bars prefer female bartenders/servers based on audience and profit potential. Its business. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Same old SongDating apps are the same way everywhere. I've seen my friend's messages. You'd think the dick pick ratio was a myth. It isn't. Just how some would think that your experience is a myth. It isn't. Dating apps are shit. Some priviledged few with more flexibility may have higher odds of matching similar contexts, but your experience isn't caused by age. [Edit: Nothing wrong with that. I encourage you to make the most of it if you're in that situation and I hope that you find happiness] One general i… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 11:57 AM |
| 1 | Ex-Mormon/NBA Player on MasculinityAh. Astrology for men, was it? | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 02:37 PM |
| 8 | Hitchens the Low life grovels apologetically to feminists.Hitchens the lowlife? The whatnow? Anti-authoritarianist, anti war, fought for free expression and scientific discovery. Advocated for the separation between church and state and gave birth to the following dictum, ultimately known as "Hitchen's Razor": "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" This is the man you'd dismiss, on a men's rights forum? Read that quote again, but slower this time. | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 01:37 PM |
| 2 | I'm doing a class presentation on men's rightsHow much time 'till the presentation? You need a lot of research in order to build a reasonable set of arguments. History is complex and context abundant. You may raise eyebrows not simply because of talking points but historical innacuracies or logical fallacies. If you've done public speaking before, then you should already know how to compose yourself and interact with the class. If you haven't done any and have concerns regarding your ability to keep the audience focused, then you might want… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 01:04 PM |
| 0 | Stop requesting politeness from people fighting for their human rights. If someone requires politeness to support your human rights, they aren't reliable allies to begin with.Its not a request, its advice. The world of men and women is not obligated to care about you, but it can be persuaded to care, on the condition that your premise holds merit and your demeanour supports your claim. Toxicity is not required. Its a choice. Beligerence is no required. Its a choice. Persuasion does not work with those two in the same context as a request for help. If they are present, then that means you are not here to persuade. You can't trick people's empathy. If you treat people … | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 12:51 PM |
| -1 | I'm FWB with my ex who has a new man and feel blackpilledSo you had lingering feelings for an ex and caved in, then got surprised that you ended up hurt, and somehow that's a statement about women and the uselesness of trust... Not that you fucked up by expecting someone to have the same lingering feelings after a relationship you admitted to have sizzled out.... And yet still blamed the other person for being shitty due to not having met your expectations instead of asking yourself "why the fuck am I in this hotel with a woman i'm vulnerable towards"… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 12:08 PM |
| 2 | Why is there no rule for hate against men in feminist subs?Because this is reddit, and much like any social platform, its shit? | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 11:59 AM |
| -4 | Rethinking the Incel PhenomenonHypergamy is a trait historically shared by men and women alike troughout different societies. That's your weakest argument, and always has been, because you're deadset on cherrypicking history and eliminating any relevant context outside what feeds a much needed narative. You're not the butt of jokes because of your suffering, but because of your unwillingness to apply solutions that are difficult and uncomfortable by nature, as applies to any treatment or most forms of healing. Life is sufferi… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 11:12 AM |
| 2 | Rethinking the Incel PhenomenonYou can spot angry bots by their desire to get one side fighting the other at every turn. The good ol' "suffering olympics"... Never gets old. If we want help, of any kind, we must first learn how to help, or we won't be equip to recognize help when its available or offered. Have a good one! | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 10:59 AM |
| 5 | Somehow doubt many women lost fingers in factories to make a livingIts one thing to compare and another to compete over who has it worse. Comparing needs research and clarity. Competition within such contexts relies on negative emotions and generally results in more of the samd. We're not denying the value of the discussion, only pointing out the flawed approach. Have a good one! | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 08:58 AM |
| 7 | Somehow doubt many women lost fingers in factories to make a livingWhy is competing over suffering something so popular these days... What is there to be won? Who needs this? Why can't we compete over acts of good? Anyways, I 100% agree with your reply. This is not the way. | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 08:39 AM |
| 1 | What is their aim?I actually addressed the voting topic in a follow up reply. So, in us, a similar system of common law apllied, as it evolved from english commonaw, however, regular citizens would have had the right to vote (starting with 1828) To address your reply, it was actually 2 decades earlier than first wave feminism, in 1828's presidential ellection that non-property-holding white males could vote in the vast majority of states. Even so, female's right to vote only arrived nearly a century later, being … | /r/MensRights | 28/05/22 12:59 AM |
| 2 | What is their aim?They did actually. Common law didn't work like statuatory law. If a prior case was vetted, it became part of common law. I addressed this in another comment. :) | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 09:02 PM |
| 0 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Thank you. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 08:09 PM |
| 1 | What is their aim?Addressing Obligations: Military participarion as co-related to right of citizenship is a complicated matter. Mandatory participation is a problem and men should have no obligation to participate. Given the proven detrimental nature of forced participation, asking that something so inherently negative ia replicated on order to gain equal voting rights is irrational. One must not have been put in that situation to begin with, thus one must not ask for reciprocity from others, lest they propopagat… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 06:52 PM |
| 1 | What is their aim?Coverture was part of common law. Marriage under coverture trated a couple as one legal entity, with the majority of rights rendered to the man untill changes to the common law was made later on, which allowed the woman to manage the property, to compensate for the absence of the man from said property. Here's a reference to when the common law was changed: https://www.britannica.com/event/Married-Womens-Property-Acts-United-States-1839 I'm well aware of the coverture common law, however, untill… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Question: How are you doing? Are you ok?Understandable. Fair point! Have a good one!:) | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 06:06 PM |
| 2 | What is their aim?Sure thing, but i seem to have not done my prior explanation any justice. What I mean by exCt proof wluld have been having all 3 case sources available, where I currently only have 1. 1 is enough to prove common law context, but patterns require more. So i'm adding an explanation to clarify further. Current law is based on statutes. Statutory law or statute law is written law passed by a body of legislature. That's opposed to oral or customary law, or regulatory law promulgated by the executive … | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 05:32 PM |
| 2 | What is their aim?Glad to take part in the discourse. I think that one of the barriers to gaining speciffic evidence as requested was the nature of common laws. Also known as Anglo-American law, the body of customary law, bases on judicial decisions and embodied in reports of decided cases, that had been administered by the common-law courts of England since the Middle ages The existinf US legal system evolved from that. Common law stands in contrast to rhe legal system derived from civil law, which is widespread… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 05:18 PM |
| 1 | What is their aim?Regrettably, that is a terrible take on the history of the problem and seems to intentionally skip relevant context. The problem of voting goes pretty far back. We take our structures in many ways from ancient civilizations. For the purpose of this discution, we will use ancient rome as an example. Women were not allowed to vote in Ancient rome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women\_in\_ancient\_Rome Freeborn women in ancient Rome were citizens (cives), but could not vote or hold political office… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 05:03 PM |
| 3 | What is their aim?Bradley v. State case, (1824) Here's a link from lexisnexis providing a law school case brief:https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/casebrief/p/casebrief-bradley-v-state Rule: "Family broils and dissentions cannot be investigated before the tribunals of the country, without casting a shade over the character of those who are unfortunately engaged in the controversy. To screen from public reproach those who may be thus unhappily situated, let the husband be permitted to exercise the right of moder… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 04:41 PM |
| 4 | What is their aim?Will research further and return with links. Gotta go out to dinner first tho. Have a good one, talk soon! | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 04:08 PM |
| 2 | Question: How are you doing? Are you ok?You're probably refering to me and that discussion did get heated up. While I stand behind my points and I'm sure you do as well, I wish nothing but good things to you. (Might be worded in a weird way. English not my first language) If my behaviour has negativelly impacted you, I apologize. That's my bad. I hope you have a wonderful rest of the day, and a great weekend ahead! [Edited gramar] | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 04:00 PM |
| 2 | How is this toxic book allowed on Amazon?Wait. How is a shitty item allowed on a shitty platform? The company behind it treats its employees like human waste. You're surprised a toxic book made its way there? That book is right up there with titles such as, and I shit you not: A. The Zen of Farting. B. How to pee standing up. C. How to shit in the woods. D. Do-it-yourself Coffins E. We never went to the moon. F Spam, a biografy And my favorite: G. The Mullet Amazon...the online book jungle... :))) | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 03:52 PM |
| 1 | What is their aim?Laws can varry. Examples can be found in both british common law and American law 1857, the rule of thumb. Stick had to be the no thicker than his thumb. If that was rhe case, and it was his wife, it was considered legal. Rule of thumb goes far back, being officially endorsed in the Bradley v. State case, (1824). The first in a trilogy actually. 1893, there was another case In Mississippi. 1860, the law of coveture. Husband is held legally responsible for the actions of both wife and children, t… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 03:35 PM |
| -2 | What is their aim?I literally said no propperty rights for marriwd women, just so you can confirm that that applies to married women. Men didn't have voting rights troughout history. Entirely valid point except we're talking about 1848, not king Tut's reign. :)) Here you are stating that you need to observe factual reality while angrily taking things out of context because you got upset. Slow down. Reading something you dislike is not a declaration of war. Think it trough. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 03:21 PM |
| -4 | What is their aim?"Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Lucretia Mott, two American activists in the movement to abolish slavery called together the first conference to address Women's rights and issues in Seneca Falls, New York, in 1848." You mean that risky segment you quoted didn't apply to 1848? The time of no property rights for married womem, no voting rights, where married men had the legal right to beat or imprison their wives with impunity? Not your best choice of time contexts. First wave is 1848 to 1920. Their m… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 03:14 PM |
| -6 | What is their aim?It actually hasn't always been about that, but I understand your point. Mivement had diffefent waves with different messages. Last and most recent wave is just....i don't think it knows what it is... It just is. Maybe they'll figure their shit out in time. Too much hate in the world. Too much anger. Too much agression. Not enough patience. Have a good one, stranger! Weekend'a almost here. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 02:43 PM |
| 1 | What is their aim?Look. Whoever you are, however different our points and opinions may be, I hope you have a good day, a wonderful weekend and a limited exposure to how bad life gets. I hope you have it better than others. I really do. We need to stop competing over who has it worse and just try to be there for the other guy. Have a good one! | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 02:41 PM |
| 3 | What is their aim?I understand where you're taking your point. I do, but it draws from a tremendously limited context. What do you mea cis men never got opressed? What timeline are we refering to? White cis men are literally the prime subject of historic slavery, being enslaved to west asians, north africans and other europeans. Look up the volga trade route (varangians). According to Robert Davis, betwren 1 to 1.25 million white europeans were captured by barbary pirates and sold as slaves between the 15th and 1… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 02:39 PM |
| 3 | Question: How are you doing? Are you ok?Thank you! Best of luck to you in getting that promotion! Whether you get it or not, make sure to treat yourself to something nice. You deserve it. :) Sun's out here. Looks pretty. Feels good. Have a wonderful weekend! | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 01:30 PM |
| 6 | Question: How are you doing? Are you ok?I'm ok. Not sinking anymore. Long road here. I smile more. I sleep better. I spend more time with friends. I managed to tell my brother that i love him. I wouldn't be around had it not been for him. That one was tough. Now, I say it every week. Happy relationship. Stable income. Pain is still there. Comes around every now and then to say hi. I wave and send it on its way, untill we'll meet again, as we should, as old friends. One day I'll be gone. Hopefully because I'm old and its my time. Life … | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 01:20 PM |
| 4 | What is their aim?I was thrown in traffic by my mother because she no longer wanted me. My brother was strangled by my mother, but she stopped before he died and relatives got to call the ambulance in time. He's thankfully still around. She used to make us kill pets when we passed the 10-12 yo threshold. Puppies and kittens. My mother was a sociopath and my father an irresponsible man-child. Years of therapy. Still going. We had to raise ourselves from scratch, and that was only possible after we fixed the many b… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 01:06 PM |
| -1 | What is their aim?You make great points. Radicalism is found in any movement, including the movements we may not particularly like which is also why we may not like said movement and those that identify with it. Its always a toxic but loud minority that overrules the needs and wants of the majority. Its the 20% of the loud enough, angry enough that change the colors of the movement for everyone else. That's a problem, because more and more, we stop sepparsting a movement's core ideals from its recent toxic follow… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 12:57 PM |
| 3 | The Alienation of Young MenYou're an empty shell, a state caused by absent parents, and suddently find yourself jerked in all directions as hormones go wild in a seemingly endless storm, as soon as you come of age. You understand nothing about the world around you or the purpose of your existence. It doesn't make sense. You make mistakes. You don't mean to make them, but you're trying to learn, to figure it out, but it still makes no sense. You're made to feel guilty, for being, for existing, for trying to make sense of t… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 09:04 AM |
| 1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Ah. English not my first language, which is why I'm sure there are plenty of similar mistakes in my other comments. For some reason I duplicate particular letters. Thank you for the spot! Have a good one! | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 07:09 AM |
| 1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Its in the edit footnote...? Cheers! | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 06:07 AM |
| -1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?We literaly do the same for men's shelters. I love reading comments from mindless anger bots that try to bully reality into shape by being belligerant towards a particular matter. I also love seeing the pattern. A. You avoid dictionary definitions like the plague. B. You have 0 context understanding. C You have 0 subject matter understanding. All you have is claims and assumptions, as nothing in your comments ever connects to demonstrable reality. You've become exsctly what you hate, a group str… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 06:06 AM |
| 2 | oh yeah I forgot they are so perfect.Internet search quote: "But European history suggests otherwise, according to a working paper by political scientists Oeindrila Dube, of the University of Chicago, and S. P. Harish, of McGill University. They studied how often European rulers went to war between 1480 and 1913. Over 193 reigns, they found that states ruled by queens were 27% more likely to wage war than those ruled by kings." Really...people in power being corrupt and ruthless? Naaaaah...can't be. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 10:34 PM |
| 2 | "Our greatest public-health crisis? The angry young American male"; this sort of dangerous discourse is the new 'The angry young black male'"The angry gamers" was another one of them, right after Doom came out. Old retoric. Will eventually die out. Not to say we don't have anger issues and can benefit from therapy, but i'll hardly call it "a crysis". This is news outlets doing news outlet things. Bleah. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Feminists keep complaining about patriarchy and so on. Why?Historicaly speaking, patriarchy is an element of concern, but what's discussed today is mostly myth and trigger words. Lingering particles of an old problem that has since seen tremendous amounts of work/improvement. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 10:26 PM |
| -7 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?And you actually lie right now. You have worded your reply linking their absence of help towards men as a form of discrimination on multiple ocasions. here is your comment from 57 minutes ago: "The point wasn't about whether they owe men anything or not. The point was they make a statement for sympathy towards male victims while at the same time they chose to help female victims but not male victims. Its an empty gesture. The fact they're not legally obligated to help men doesn't mean they are n… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 09:11 PM |
| -4 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Not one lie shared. One of your answers does not allow me to reply to it, which wss located at the end ot our original thread. Try again. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 08:43 PM |
| 0 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?No lies shared. Reply was blocked 3 times via "something went wrong" notice. Discrimination relies on the presence of unjust or prejudicial behaviour. Which part od the organization's behaviour or the campaign member's post was not based on, or behaving according to what is morally right and fair, or following a preconcieved opiniok that is not based on reason or actual experience? We consider that we discuss support shelters, which require exlusion of one party on order to help the other. You c… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 08:42 PM |
| -6 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?I see that u/63daddy decided to block me in the reply thread because he ran out of counter-arguments, so I'll post it here. Nice try big man. The fact that they aren't legally obligated to help men has nothing to do with the fact that they shouldn't help men. That's actually the point. The fact that they have to help women, as per their tailored purpose, is why they shouldn't integrate men into the support group's target. In order to help people, harmed by one side or the other, you must first e… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 08:33 PM |
| 0 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Oh, ran out of touchy subjects and decided to bring race into the mix? Do you internet angry, gasslighting trolls follow a playbook? I swear, its like talking to the same person. Not only does your claim for discrimination have no grounds, but the only way it would work would be if everyone else knew as little as you do about how support groups are intended to work. Let's thank the internet that that's not the case. Moving forward: Nowhere in what they say or do, do they discriminate based on se… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 07:18 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?[Removed link to the NGO you referred to] Re-posting comment as previous attempts saw it removed. I listed men's shelter support groups and contacts. Great stuff reddit. Great stuff. The lady'a website can be easily looked up by searching for the Depp support trial. Ok. Find me where they discriminate against men. Or are you triggered by this part: "Mission Onlus works alongside women and children from all over the world to defend their dignity and rights with the aim of protecting them from phy… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Please - by all means - check all of my posts. This is hilarious.You'll find that most of the posts I reply against are much like yours. Entitlement, gaslighting and irresponsible behaviors. This was your comment:"This is no different than when feminists tried to take the credit for NCFM's struggle against selective service." Then you go to state the following:"I didn't say they took credit for anything. I said they look good for supporting him now. Nice try though, troll." And when you're calle… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 05:42 PM |
| -13 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?You literally said that this is just like a case where feminists took credit for something they shouldn't have. Don't back out of it now. You delt it...work with it. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 05:18 PM |
| -12 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Wait. Hold up. Name 1 thing they're taking credit for or benefiting from by having made that statement. :))) Come on brother, make it make sense! This'll be good.... | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 05:10 PM |
| -2 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Talk is indeed cheap. You said she discriminates against men, but how is it discrimination if you do not receive something you're not entitled to? If it doesn't rain, but I expect it to, am I being discriminated against? Am i thinking that I'm owed that water? You're all upset that you're not getting a piece of that cake, but what have you done to earn it? These are some steps on how to open a shelter. Steps here are taken from a guide on how a shelter for women is opened. This was a google sear… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 04:58 PM |
| -1 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?You're asking an organization that owes you nothing, that you've done nothing for, to suddenly open its arms and provide you with the same benefits it provides those that its intended for... Being refused something that was never intended for you since its creation, does not make the people refusing the request sexist. You on the other hand are sexist, and by far way to entitled to understand the amount of work they've done and how it has nothing to do with you. You're not here fighting for a so… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 04:32 PM |
| -19 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?Let me get this straight. These women, who are part of a womens abuse support NGO, who didn't owe men a damned thing, decided to go on social media and on public reccord in order to offer support to A MAN, in a domestic abuse/defamation case... Pretty much a free positive gesture that has likely put them in hot water with some people in the internet. Its so tremendously unlikely that they didn't get flack for it, that I just don't understand how people can take it for granted... And you're sayin… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 03:05 PM |
| 2 | What do you guys think about this quora post claiming that Feminist organisation supporting Johnny Depp against Amber Heard?The logistics alone would be a nightmare. Its only a non profit organization at the end of the day. You don't suddenly create a solution for everyone after barely making a solution for some. That doesn't detract from the impact of their actions. Good for them to take a public stand. Nothing there is hypocritical. What you're expecting is the equivalent of a divine intervention or a magical instant solution, and because it hasn't happened, they're suddenly hypocritical? Why can't we just sit and … | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 02:55 PM |
| 1 | I feel like I can't actually do anything in my life except avoid conflictI don't understand why the topic keeps changing. I do not relate to anything you say. That doesn't aim to invalidate anyone's experiences, but it does make it seem like you're redirecting the discussion in order to avoid talking about concrete examples. Being gaslit is shit. Being violent is being violent. Being violent because you've been gaslit is not ok. While exact context decides what would be a proportionate response, violence or violent behaviour is not justified. Fine emotional control i… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 12:05 PM |
| 1 | "If men don't have as many rights as women, then why don't they fight for them" <-- A question asked to me. Below is my response.I kinda gave up on the idea of a peaceful retirement. Maybe its too early to have these thoughts, but i've been working since around 16-17, but don't yet have 2 full decades of work under my belt. Been quite the odd ride ride. Shitty one for the most part, but it comes with the teritoey I guess. Got pretty close to wanting the ride to end short a few times there, but i'm better now. I love painting. Its what I actually went to school for. I got lucky...made a deal with my partner so that I can c… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 10:03 AM |
| 1 | "If men don't have as many rights as women, then why don't they fight for them" <-- A question asked to me. Below is my response.Cool. Is that more of a dislike towards the unnecessary challenges of workplaces these days, or simply wouldn't want to be involved in activities? If you could spend time, just growing fruits and vegetables, without ever being worried about the power going out or money running dry, would you enjoy that activity. Would you spend hours in a day passionately toiling away at this, or another activity? This is a context expanding question. I'm well aware such a situation does not exist. I'm curious a… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 09:45 AM |
| 1 | Do you think that the relative valuation of men's health vs women's health issues has hindered Covid science?No. Just different health impacting behaviours. Likely mitigated covid better. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 07:46 AM |
| 1 | How are subreddits hating (and advocating violence on) men even allowed?Its not particular to men. Sure, man hate is the new trend, but its just a byproduct of people's shitty behaviour. Hate, is easy. It fuels certain people, gives them a point to focus on. Some people are just fucked up. They likely need therapy, but decided they're above all that. If you replace man hate with woman hate, this comment read just the same. Hell, feel free to replace it with ableism, xenophobia or pretty much any nuance of hate or discrimination and I bet you there's some forum for i… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 06:02 AM |
| 0 | Why is it okay to teach a man “how to treat a woman”, but not to teach a woman “how to treat a man”?Also, are those special unearned privileges in the room with you right now? They can't hurt you so, can you tell us what they are? | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 05:57 AM |
| 1 | I feel like I can't actually do anything in my life except avoid conflictI understand. Were you disgnosed with autism, speech impediments and violent tendencies? If not, would you be so kind as tonprovide context regarding exactly what the therapists have pointed out to be bad behaviour kn your part? | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 05:55 AM |
| 0 | Why is it okay to teach a man “how to treat a woman”, but not to teach a woman “how to treat a man”?All movements become rotten, champ. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 05:53 AM |
| 1 | I feel like I can't actually do anything in my life except avoid conflictNot every therapist is a fit. These are just people at the end of the day. Find a therapist you're comfortable with. Being male is not inherently bad. Info request: Couls you please provide more context as to what therapists in your past have pointed out to be bad male behaviours? | /r/MensRights | 25/05/22 06:09 PM |
| 1 | UK charities call for menstrual leave for severe painThey did, above. Someone else's comment. Unfamiliar with quote or comment copying mechanic in reddit, but if you scroll up in the thread, you'll fin a small comment that mentions priviledge. Again...why should men get something because women get something? That's not equality. Equality would have us replicate their process, not expect a duplicate reward of a process we did not follow. Why are you treating this as a competiton? Everyone here is obsessed with forcing people to give them something … | /r/MensRights | 25/05/22 08:51 AM |
| 1 | UK charities call for menstrual leave for severe painHelp me understand how calling someone else's ability to get help, "a priviledge" and trying to gatekeep their ability to seek help, is not bullying behaviour. Do you feel that's been done to you? If yes, why? Where are the people keeping you from achieving better health? Who are they? What did they do? Would you, if you're comfortable with it, be so kind as to share some examples? | /r/MensRights | 25/05/22 07:32 AM |
| 1 | UK charities call for menstrual leave for severe painChanging comment order. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/22 07:31 AM |
| 1 | UK charities call for menstrual leave for severe painCutting comment to paste in thread. Posted out of reply thread. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/22 07:30 AM |
| 1 | UK charities call for menstrual leave for severe painAnd change it we should! Fight for it we should! We can find solutions. We have before, and it wasn't at the cost of anothet gender's ability to do the same. But not like this. Not by trying to morally gatekeep someone else's right to better health. We can't start this with "if you get X, then I also get X". That ain't right! We can't be getting upset when someone else get a solution that helps improve their health. That's not a healthy mindset. We're not being kept away from better health. No o… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/22 07:24 AM |
| 1 | I feel like I can't actually do anything in my life except avoid conflictStart going to therapy. I hope you find the help you need. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 11:28 PM |
| -2 | Some women, even on this sub, play mental games with us.Hey there! Thank you for the follow-up! I as out grocery shopping, but I saw you sent a reply, so please pardon the delay in getting back to you. (this reply will contain spoilers Alexandre Dumas's books - please be warned) A. Last thirty years are the context period of time where women have been held accountable less. Again - that doesn't narrow it down, as on the historical spectrum, there's fluctuation induced by cultural shifts, ups and downs. Examples are never consistent so trends can't re… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 06:39 PM |
| 2 | Does women hate most of men?My wording wasn't great. I was addressing the behaviour and actions not the person. I don't know you. I don't judge you. I don't have that authority. However, if the behaviour fits the example I provided, I do find it shitty. I haven't lived where you live. I haven't dated the people that you dated. Maybe those deserve the judgement, but painting everyone with the same colors is not depicting a healthy mindset. My 2 cents brother. At the end of the day, maybe I don't know shit about fuck, but I … | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 05:00 PM |
| 2 | Does women hate most of men?Not entirely sure what that means... I posted abour destiny 2 pvp on the account. Its what it was made for. Not my beat arguments and certainly not my best positioning in those posts. Feel free to review history and posts. Your first instinct was to become defensive and pick a fight. Not a single thought of trolling occured from my end. Why was that your first instinct? I'm not as familiar with the platform activity, so I wouldn't know how often one gets trolled on it. If my demeanour led you to… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 04:15 PM |
| 0 | Some women, even on this sub, play mental games with us.Thank you for the follow-up! Interesting set of points. Towards which historical period would you point to, that would clearly show how women would have been held accountable less? I believe context is important. Context isn't the pie as much as a slice of the greater mass of details we've yet to corelate. I don't disagree there's shitty online presence from women, but I also do strongly believe that culture plays a big part in that. I say believe as I use observations to build a theory. I do no… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 04:08 PM |
| 3 | Does women hate most of men?Yes and no. So many people ignore red flags. Same with women. "I had no idea she's be like that!" Bullshit. You rushed into it, ignored the red flags or thought you could change the other person. I'm living with a hardcore feminist. She's kind, caring and supportive. She backs me up and encourages my passions. I return the favor and then some, and we keep climbing that way beautifully. We disagree, constantly. Its not a big deal. We respect eachother first and foremost. We do not ignore our prob… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 03:43 PM |
| -1 | UK charities call for menstrual leave for severe painNo. That's rhe problem. Why should you get anything if someone else is getting something? The very fact that you call "help", "priviledge" speaks volumes about your hardwiring. Its not ok. Did you afirm a need? Is your need corelated to the physiology of the opposite gender? How is this in any way related to you, that you find yourself in a point of authority and validity to condition another gender's ability to get help?!? If you need help, seek help. Fuck it, i don't know you but i'll protest … | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that the relative valuation of men's health vs women's health issues has hindered Covid science?Eastern europe. Endless rows of beds filled with fat 50+ yo men that have more gunk in their arteries than the communism era waterways that lie under our feet. (Emotional argument, biased and exagerated, but with a good measure of truth) Their main physical activity, walking to the local sports betting/game/slots machines place while chainsmoking coffin nails. Just to see them loudly berrate the vaccine while a nurse is struggling to put an oxigen mask on them... And we're not even talking aboht… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 03:18 PM |
| 1 | UK charities call for menstrual leave for severe painWhat does women needing A, have to do with men needing B? Why can't we have both? Why is it thag everything has to be turned into a "us vs them" all the god damned time. "If women get this, I should also get this". No. "I should get this." has and should have ansolutely nothing to do with what benefits anyone else has. If you want something, don't seek to drag someone by their sleeve in the hopes they pull you up... Ask them how they got there and make your own plan. Christ. Everh damned time it… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 03:01 PM |
| -1 | UK charities call for menstrual leave for severe painGender differences have to accomodate help based on need. This discussion shouldn't be "if they get X, then I should get Y". These are people that need help. Let's offer our support. I doubt the kindness wouldn't be reciprocated in our time of need. We're so hardwired to avoid asking for help... How much better would my life be, if I had 1 therapy session a month, paid for by the company I work at. But we would never admit that we need that. We use too much of our time trying to apprar stronger … | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 02:53 PM |
| 1 | “Men dying in wars is a result of other men ordering them”George Carlin had a pretty good set of takes. The way I see it, the system is a mousetrap. It all merges together into a singular system of abuse. Religious Zealotry shoving the value of birthing children down our throats since early ages, leading to umprepared people making poor choices, propagating abuse and bad times across numerous follow-up generations. The system uses that form of belief and controls it towars its benefit. How else could you be so valuable when you're 10, but so easily dis… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 02:33 PM |
| 1 | “Men dying in wars is a result of other men ordering them”Any argument relying heavily on feelings for its coherence will be more story than truth. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 02:25 PM |
| 1 | What are y’all’s thoughts on the new Alex Garland film: Men?Everything has some measure of depth. Can that be greatly exagerated? Absolutely. Happens with most attempts at "making art". What should be considered is that people, in general, can be particularly dark and shitty. Men and women alike. The movie may describe some % of men. How many, unsure. I've met some fucked up people and i'm pretty sure you and everyone else here, has as well. The mistake of the movie is likely trying to paint us all by the colours of our worst. That's not ok. That's abusi… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 02:13 PM |
| 1 | "If men don't have as many rights as women, then why don't they fight for them" <-- A question asked to me. Below is my response.How exactly is the woman's right to have an abortion tied to the perceived innability of men to find the time to push for more rights? "Men don't have the time" is a terribly week argument. No one "has" time. They make time by trading one thing for another. There is always a trade. Not seeing the exchange does not remove the trade or stop it from happening. Also, "Women don't work?" What are you on about? | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Another dialog with feminists...Depends on their demeanor and intent. You could just as easily end up labeled as a "mansplainer" out of nowhere. People like that don't expect resistence so they display a controlled if not modest demeanor, just for it to flip to erratic or belligerent the moment they encounter an argument they're not prepared for. No value in such discussions unless you're fully prepared to listen to near endless monologues, and reccord key points to address when they stop to breathe. Unsure if that mitigates y… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 01:24 PM |
| 2 | Why is it okay to teach a man “how to treat a woman”, but not to teach a woman “how to treat a man”?I think that'a a sepparate culture that grows around movements and progress much like a fungus. Feminism had its purpose and a good one at that. But any good movement stays good only for a short while. The founding principles may remain clear, but as more shitty people pile in, the less your movement is about health and improvement and the more it is about narcisistic needs. Happens to every movement that doesn't course correct every now and then. That, however, is the byproduct of people being … | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 12:51 PM |
| 5 | Why is it okay to teach a man “how to treat a woman”, but not to teach a woman “how to treat a man”?We all need improvement. No matter what anyone says, we as a people...suck. All of us. But we also need a healthy environment within which learning can take place. If your partner or friend, or even family decide that you need to be shamed for being a man, or co-relate a valid flaw to one's gender, its time for you to move out of there. Those are baiting arguments. They're intended to make you either be hurt or react in a negative way. Give nothing, move away. The impact that leaves behind is fa… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 12:45 PM |
| 5 | Some women, even on this sub, play mental games with us.I don't understand the co-relatiom between feminism and shitty behaviour. What she did sucks, but I see an overwhelming absence of context. There are some weird people out there that may believe they're genuinely helping you trough such actions. That doesn't excuse their behaviour, but there's a lot more of them out there than we think. There are also spitefull creatures that simply want to be destructive and harm others for 2-3 seconds of pleasure. Then again, that's a trait shared by many, irr… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 12:33 PM |
| 3 | Feminism has scared women so much that I cant even warn a woman that shes walking towards a bear without her being stand offishExpectations and the anger of not having them met. These are strangers. People you don't know, who may have a boatload of entirely valid reasons to react differently than you would to q given situation. She didn't scoff. She didn't roll her eyes. She didn't berate you. She was on a trail, likely enjoying the activity and now she has to consider the risk of a bear attack. That takes some processing. People don't just proactivelly learn bear kung fu or whatnot. Also, not everyone can snap out of a… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 12:24 PM |
| 1 | Feminism has scared women so much that I cant even warn a woman that shes walking towards a bear without her being stand offishThat's got nothing to do with feminism. People's minds often go blank while walking. Walking, running and jogging can be quite therapeutical I hear. Whenever i need to release some tension, i go for a walk. Works like a charm, but my mind's blank for most of it. Careful with the content you consume online. Leads to biases and unhealthy habbits of projecting negative traits on others. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 12:18 PM |
| 1 | It shouldn't have to be said, but violence is NOT an acceptable answer.I felt the need to post, and its probably a bad idea. I'm not great with words. Please take this with a grain of salt. I also may be in the wrong section, for which I apologize. I'm new to posting. This will likely be a long reply. Anger is a bad teacher and much of what stems from it is unlikely to contain any wisdom. I've read some of the posts here and...I'm concerned. I'd love to understand people better. To understand why people behave the way they do. To understand why people are as hatefu… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/21 12:09 PM |
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