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How many women were "plants"?
/r/seduction27/05/21 05:41 AM
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I agree with your answer. What I have found is when I talk to my younger male friends about self-image and emotional maturity in relation to beauty or SMV, they hear what I say but do not actually modify their behavior or thinking. It is almost like they can't change. I think it is difficult for an emotionally immature man to actually understand and reconcile the idea of self-worth and what it means in dating and relationships. Any thoughts?
/r/seduction11/05/21 11:02 PM
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How can you judge beauty in a woman as compared to yourself?
/r/seduction11/05/21 04:01 PM
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It's helpful to look at conversation with an interested woman primarily in terms of emotional techniques, with a foundation in being assertive. Tests are largely instinctual and women are not looking for an answer they are looking for an emotional reaction so they can judge your strength of character. If the test is in the form of a question, you have several options depending on the exact circumstances. 1) Guide the conversation by asking a question or making a statement of your own which is al…
/r/seduction09/05/21 07:47 AM
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Women generally choose a partner base on their needs (desires). I have found that attraction IRL is made up of initial attraction (before conversation) and mate value attraction (during conversation). The relative proportions of these are dependent on the needs of the individual woman. There are some patterns I see as to attractive traits in men as follows: Psychological Health Emotional Maturity Intelligence Beyond these the priority of what traits are important is woman dependent.
/r/seduction09/05/21 05:50 AM
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There is no universally attractive male. I have found emotionally mature women have a very specific type of man they are attracted to, and what women find attractive is very diverse. For, example, I could be at a venue with many eligible women, and find that none are interested in flirting with me. Then at the next venue, I could have three who are flirting and very interested, and if I really match a woman's "type" she may approach me first. I wanted to talk about the concept or rules in the "d…
/r/seduction08/05/21 03:59 PM
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Why are you scared of doing anything?
/r/seduction07/05/21 06:56 AM
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No I don't think it is a limiting belief. In terms of self-image a limiting belief is something that is true about yourself that you can't acknowledge. Also, I can read women really well, and I know very clearly the intimidated look in young women. It's important that the woman can imagine being a success with you.
/r/seduction07/05/21 03:42 AM
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In reference to IOIs IRL if you can flirt at a distance you can send as well as receive signals. Most men are poor at just reading IOIs. Where I can send a message and look for a response, and have a sort of flirting conversation. What I do depends on the woman and her reactions in real-time. Generally, the core IOIs are based on eye contact, smiles and smirks, facial expressions and body language. I use flirting at a distance and peacocking together to tease women. For example, if I sense the w…
/r/seduction06/05/21 05:30 PM
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I would agree that initial attraction IRL, which is mostly instinctual (involuntary), will prompt women to flirt with a man they are interested in. Basically, initial attraction leads to connection then trust then sex. For younger inexperienced women and women who are intimidated by attractive men the flirting IOIs get ever more subtle. It takes a lot of experience and empathy skills to read younger women who are not fully emotionally mature. I have these skills so I basically can flirt at a dis…
/r/seduction06/05/21 10:20 AM
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I would say it is more a possible technique than a guide, although well written and correct in its basic progression. The limitation is there is really no true step by step approach. What you do as a man depends on the woman and her desires, and I have found women do exhibit patterns depending upon age and emotional maturity. Men are faced with many challenges as to knowing what to do to sexually satisfy a woman. For example a young inexperienced, perhaps immature, woman may not be able to verba…
/r/seduction05/05/21 04:31 AM
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I think perhaps your impression of SMV is slightly skewed. SMV includes much more than facial looks or body type, especially in terms of what men bring to a relationship, and as you mentioned of high importance is masculinity. For example, facial looks in a woman is just one factor in overall SMV. Men tend to under estimate their SMV because they fixate on relative looks or leagues. Your a trophy as much as she is. Don't surrender you self worth so quickly.
/r/seduction04/05/21 09:34 PM
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From my own personal experience I think for me what women look at in terms of initial attraction at a distance IRL is like a quick instinctual survey as follows (The majority of which are genetics based): 1) Chest to hip ratio, or the V look. 2) Height to Leg Length ratio. This is very important. The tall lean look. Which I think includes looking at the butt if you are walking away. I know for me there is a definite sweet spot if I wear boots with 2 inch heels. Instead of looking woman stare at …
/r/seduction04/05/21 09:15 PM
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Its you valuing yourself over others. If you are emotionally mature you are not in competition with yourself.
/r/seduction03/05/21 06:25 PM
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Rejection is an irrational fear. Meaning you are not in any physical danger. Fear is an emotion within one's self. If a person is self-aware they can experience, understand and act accordingly when experiencing the fear or rejection. They are not controlled by it. To effectively deal with you own emotions you must be self-aware. Fear of rejection is a roadblock for people who are not emotionally mature.
/r/seduction03/05/21 06:18 PM
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IRL more effective would be to "Keep your damn heads up and don't be afraid to maintain eye contact" and actively flirt back and forth to understand her level of attraction. Flirting is a way to project your interest in someone.
/r/seduction03/05/21 05:14 AM
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Through emotional connection (nonverbal) both partners are invested emotionally in each other, it is mutual, and understood as such. Connection leads to trust and then intimacy. Women need to have an initial attraction to a man before forging an emotional connection.
/r/seduction03/05/21 04:38 AM
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How old are you?
/r/seduction02/05/21 06:33 PM
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From the standpoint of emotional intelligence, the term Self-confidence means the following as part of being self-aware: Included in self-awareness is self-confidence, or having a strong sense of your own self-worth, and not relying on others for validation. In dating and relationships psychological disorders can inhibit becoming self-aware, and by extension can arrest development of self-confidence. I looked at your website and the challenge for you is the same for most other dating coaches, th…
/r/seduction02/05/21 12:42 AM
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Can anyone acquire self-confidence?
/r/seduction01/05/21 11:31 PM
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Why would you be intimidated by their looks?
/r/seduction29/04/21 01:07 AM
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What are you looking for that you have been rejected? What do you want from women?
/r/seduction28/04/21 07:15 PM
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Negging is a form of emotional dominance in conversation. In my opinion it is taught as a newbie technique to understand context usually in response to women's tests. There are many other more advanced techniques in conversation to establish emotional dominance. Most consist of guiding the conversation based on desires and emotions.
/r/seduction28/04/21 08:44 AM
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Thank you for the explanation. Based on what you wrote, I think I like your world better than mine in terms of women. In SoCal you really need to have your own place to entertain and most high value women are looking for a man who is career oriented even if he has a lower salary. I have never been married or have any kids and have been in several LTRs, I am single at the moment. Where in Italy are you: My guess would be Milan? If you are please let me know I may have some fashion questions for y…
/r/seduction28/04/21 03:15 AM
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It's really not the immaturity which hurts men in general and me in particular. The one thing that effects me the most is when men with money date and try and buy women with their wealth. This is bad behavior in that women, to a certain extent, tend to be molded by their environment.
/r/seduction27/04/21 06:19 PM
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Your world is completely different than mine when it comes to women. The most attractive (high value) eligible bachelors in their 30s I know who like the single lifestyle have 2 to 6 women in rotation, and date a new woman once a week. I think this is a common pattern for men in their 30s who have a career and a social life beyond women (this is pre-virus) mainly due to the following reasons: 1) Sex generally improves when you understand a woman and her needs. This takes time. It also takes time…
/r/seduction27/04/21 06:06 PM
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In regards to: " I’ve wrote in several of my past comments about one of my best friends which still fucks dozens of girls/women each month as of today (body count beyond 1500, still single, still unable to settle in a LTR, but he’s also quite happy)." are these women in the sex trade? This would make sense why a LTR is not really viable.
/r/seduction27/04/21 07:51 AM
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What does this mean; "Things I use to get into her head"?
/r/seduction27/04/21 07:16 AM
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I think the how part, without a time limit, is you are seen as someone who can fulfill her desires. The 45 minute idea is really meaningless. In connection the rate of escalation has a foundation in trust. Establishing trust is woman specific and can't be rushed. Also, establishing trust is very dynamic as to traits in men, like emotional intelligence.
/r/seduction27/04/21 04:21 AM
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Value, or SMV (sexual market value) or earning power value or relative value in personality traits is very subjective. When talking to an interested woman I think the dynamic is more need based (desire). The partner with the greatest need is at a disadvantage in negotiation. So, instead of trying to understand value, try and understand relative needs. Which for me is a lot easier to do.
/r/seduction27/04/21 12:23 AM
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In my peer group I am the oldest eligible bachelor that has a high EQ (emotional intelligence), most are in LTRs or Married. As time marches on I look more and more like a Playboy to my peers, although I have been in several successful LTRs, which they know about but seem to overlook now that I am dating again. So why am I telling you this? Because I am also very interested in empathy in communications, I call these emotional techniques, which as a label, has been formalized in persuasion (calle…
/r/seduction24/04/21 07:33 PM
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Approaching groups of girls is very challenging even for the most experienced man. I can approach a group of two or three, but if there are more than three, I completely wimp out. I really need to work on approaching larger groups. But, lets talk about groups of two or three. Usually, one of the girls is flirting with me at a distance and her friends(s) don't really see what's happening. I flirt back and depending on the attraction level, I will usually approach and introduce myself and join the…
/r/seduction24/04/21 11:11 AM
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What does good flirting look like? I will try to explain. How many men know how to effectively flirt with women both at a distance and in conversation? Not many. Probably like only 1 in 250 eligible bachelors have advanced flirting skills, which I think is the basis for seduction. In other words, seduction is an advanced skill built upon a foundation of emotional techniques which includes flirting. Flirting at a distance: IRL when a woman is attracted to a man she will flirt (send nonverbal sign…
/r/seduction24/04/21 07:54 AM
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Are you talking about flirting at a distance before conversation?
/r/seduction23/04/21 08:41 PM
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Are you advocating cold approach?
/r/seduction23/04/21 10:37 AM
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Relationships take work. Given your situation you should probably work on yourself before considering how to bring another person into your life.
/r/seduction23/04/21 10:29 AM
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Why do you want a relationship with a woman?
/r/seduction23/04/21 05:15 AM
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Is this post real? Are you really a woman?
/r/seduction22/04/21 09:28 PM
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The vast majority of men on this sub do not have true empathy and probably upwards of 85% are not even self-aware. Empathy is a part of emotional maturity which many men lack for psychological and other developmental challenges. I think what may be helpful is for you to present specific examples of how you use empathy in flirting, conversation, dating and relationships. Thanks.
/r/seduction22/04/21 09:05 PM
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It depends on the woman.
/r/seduction22/04/21 08:47 PM
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Why would I be afraid to approach women?
/r/seduction22/04/21 08:14 PM
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What negative beliefs are usually holding them back?
/r/seduction22/04/21 08:02 PM
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In your coaching what do you teach the students? What is the goal of your instruction?
/r/seduction21/04/21 05:34 AM
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Can you elaborate on: " I took her to a more private place, we started kissing and had sex " Like on a park bench? Behind the stadium? Where? Just curious. Thanks.
/r/seduction20/04/21 07:04 PM
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What you are really asking about is learning communication skills with the context being talking to women, just search the web and you will see a lot of input of how to improve social skills. Communication is part learned skill and part emotional maturity. The learned skill portion will take a certain level of intelligence, and the emotional maturity from emotional intelligence which is a trait that comes from understanding yourself and others emotionally. A potential roadblock to emotional matu…
/r/seduction20/04/21 06:37 PM
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How old are you? If I knew your age I could comment better. Thanks.
/r/seduction20/04/21 05:47 PM
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For your bootcamps do I need to have any basic prerequisites to learn your techniques?
/r/seduction20/04/21 08:08 AM
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In my opinion, you can't really teach advanced seduction skills with the written word from a book. As you have realized, we have pushed the book instruction approach to the point of diminishing returns. Communication with an interested women is mostly nonverbal. What you say in terms of conversation depends on who the woman is as a person (emotional maturity) and her desires (intensity), and evolves in real-time as you are reading her nonverbally (empathy skills). Beyond books the techniques can…
/r/seduction20/04/21 07:44 AM
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From my experience in talking to women, is the reason they will not approach a man they see as attractive is the fear of rejection. Although a lot of women are not intimidated by even the most attractive guys in terms of looks, the fear of rejection is still the leading reason to not approach.
/r/seduction19/04/21 11:40 PM
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What confidence (self-confidence) literature are you referencing? As humans we are all unique. There is no gap in my recognition of self, there is nothing I need to cross.
/r/seduction19/04/21 04:42 PM
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How old are you?
/r/seduction18/04/21 03:53 AM
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What is the goal of your conversation?
/r/seduction16/04/21 08:53 AM
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The "what do you do?" question is probably the most common in scripting as per common questions on a date. Leil Lowndes' technique is to "Never the Naked Job". Most people, unless they are in the same profession, will have no idea what you do with a basic short description. So, the technique is to describe what you do in an exciting, meaningful and easy to understand way that conveys your passion in what you do. Make it interesting. For a person to be interested in you, you must be interesting. …
/r/seduction15/04/21 08:01 PM
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I have watched a lot of Victoria's videos and I would say she gets a lot of things right in interpretation from the woman's perspective. She is self-aware and able to cognitively describe instinctual behavior in women. Which is very unique.
/r/seduction14/04/21 04:56 AM
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Could you define what being good with the ladies means to you? Can you clearly state your goal?
/r/seduction13/04/21 07:13 PM
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Are you really a woman? So can you give me a specific example on what I should say for #1 that would not creep out the woman? Thanks.
/r/seduction12/04/21 09:45 PM
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Stories are ideas and imagery. Women are reading words in literotica and then using imagination to satisfy needs. I think the linkage between imagination and words for sexual desire is fundamentally different between men and women. So, what triggers this intense linkage between imagery and desire? Everything else being equal, to pique interest it must be tied to specific words. But what words exactly? Are there magic words? No, not really. All women are different in their desires, but I think it…
/r/seduction10/04/21 06:52 PM
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Are there a lot of smokers?
/r/seduction10/04/21 07:29 AM
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In the 1970s, early in the interaction the man would have offered the lady a cigarette. Maybe even before introducing yourself. It seemed that everyone smoked. Most women smoked menthol cigarettes. So, you would have your cigarette case half full of your brand and half menthol for the ladies. The go to brand was Benson & Hedges 100s regular and menthol. The bars smelled with the heavy stench of cigarette smoke.
/r/seduction10/04/21 12:32 AM
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So, if I understand you correctly, a woman's repeated inability to discuss her sexual needs is a red flag in indicating emotional immaturity. Is that correct?
/r/seduction09/04/21 04:18 PM
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The skill of flirting at a distance (two way flirting conversation) as a man with an interested woman IRL is a very rare skill, especially on this sub. How did you acquire this skill?
/r/seduction09/04/21 08:01 AM
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Even emotionally mature women can be challenged in expressing their sexual needs and fantasies. It's a very strange dynamic, that a woman is very emotionally mature in flirting and making a connection, but then will become less assertive during sex. I have really changed how I get to know a woman in having sex. I am dominant when it comes to initiating but then I let things unfold at a pace that is comfortable for the woman so she can open up about her needs. How do I know what's comfortable, th…
/r/seduction09/04/21 03:37 AM
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In my actual experience with women IRL, I find there are two basic categories of attraction, both are important to women: Initial attraction (instinctual): This is attraction at a distance before conversation, which includes flirting at a distance. When a women see a man she is attracted she will flirt in some instinctual way, which can be very subtle and I think is largely involuntary. Initial attraction IRL is not just facial looks (being handsome), which I think is actually the third thing wo…
/r/seduction08/04/21 04:05 AM
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If she is hitting on you why go over for dinner? This seems like a poor decision to me.
/r/seduction05/04/21 03:54 AM
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In relation to this statement: "There are a lot of clueless men walking around, struggle with women." I think the reasons they have difficulty in communication is most are dealing with unaddressed psychological trauma and/or are not emotionally mature. Under the age of 40 only about 1 in 6 adults are self-aware. I think on average emotionally mature women out number men by about 2 to 1. So there are a lot of men struggling with communication or social skills for many reasons. Flirting at a dista…
/r/seduction05/04/21 03:50 AM
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I am very charismatic and have true empathy. Conversation is not just words. You are continually communicating nonverbally. You know what to say because you understand who they are. The skill is in identifying passions and needs quickly. People are all different. If you can read people you have some idea of who they are before you talk to them, then in conversation you quickly move towards specifics which bring forward emotions and experiences. Emotionally mature adults who can project themselve…
/r/seduction04/04/21 07:02 PM
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Neurologistic programming Does this approach use journaling? and if so why?
/r/seduction04/04/21 06:47 PM
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Alpha Male in what context? Social hierarchy only? or in describing mate value traits?
/r/seduction03/04/21 04:01 PM
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There is physical dominance and emotional dominance. Physical dominance in the scope of dating and relationships (sex) is basically having the will to act in escalation. That is, taking initiative in touching, kissing, etc. Emotional dominance is about establishing and maintaining emotional control of the interactions.
/r/seduction02/04/21 11:43 PM
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Tests are not really mind games from the standpoint of how they originate. Mind games to me seem to indicate that there is a cognitive process involved with some multistep strategy with an end goal of some sort (like manipulation). I have found tests from women are instinctual and don't have a part B, they are intended to test for an emotional response in the moment. That's it. For the vast majority of men on this sub, the reason they cannot understand emotion in conversation is that they are ju…
/r/seduction01/04/21 06:32 PM
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I think I would put it slightly differently. I think initial attraction is primarily instinctual in women. So, there is the basic challenge for a woman to cognitively express what they do instinctually. Which is not really unexpected. Also, what they say cognitively about behavior is usually to satisfy their peer group in adhering to a norm (not sure if it is moral, but definitely ideological), with emphasis on not being slut shamed. I am male and very experienced in communication with women, bo…
/r/seduction01/04/21 07:49 AM
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Can you elaborate on what women really want and the behaviors women desire in a man?
/r/seduction31/03/21 09:56 PM
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Can you be more specific?
/r/seduction31/03/21 05:51 PM
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How old are these girlfriends? In general age matters in what women value. Self-Confidence is a trait usually recognized by emotionally mature women. If they are Gen Z they are probably not emotionally mature. What I am saying is self-confidence in instinctual initial attraction is closely tied to emotional maturity which generally tracks with age in women. For example, a 27 year old woman who is emotionally mature will put much more importance in self-confidence as a trait or mate value, even m…
/r/seduction31/03/21 05:11 PM
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How to you seduce with looks?
/r/seduction31/03/21 06:47 AM
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I like your example on, what I call, guiding the conversation. I have found that you can redirect the conversation at will without any real repercussions or negative feelings from the woman. Conversation with an interested woman is a rollercoaster of emotion and not a job interview. I want to identify her passions to unlock desires. Emotionally my direction is one of discovery in who she is. So, I may answer a question with a strategic statement which reveals a part of herself. For me I can ask …
/r/seduction30/03/21 05:26 PM
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This is a good general description of the technique from the traditional PUA play book. What I have found is many traditional PUA emotional techniques, like "negs" or "push-pull" tend to give a very limited effect in actual application. The PUA treatment of the subject of emotion in conversation is not very comprehensive. It tends to focus on scripting which ignores what is being communicated nonverbally. When I listen to advice from the PUAs I am struck by how they are not emotionally mature an…
/r/seduction30/03/21 07:20 AM
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The big picture: Emotional techniques are common in conversation. If you distill down conversation you would get basically two categories of technique; assertive and empathetic (emotion). Women in communication: If you look at the options for women to test a man's character, there are basically three categories: 1) Strength, is she stronger than the man, not likely. In courting I don't really see any tests of strength between the genders. 2) Intelligence, is she smarter than the man, a very real…
/r/seduction30/03/21 01:27 AM
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Are emotionally mature?
/r/seduction28/03/21 06:21 PM
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Do you understand instinctual behavior in women? and if so, give an example, and explain how you came to understand this instinct?
/r/seduction28/03/21 06:18 PM
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What is the purpose of the book?
/r/seduction28/03/21 06:03 PM
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Have you tried a convection oven?
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 09:07 AM
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If you are a man, in terms of initial attraction IRL it is possible to create a similar feeling in the loins of women. I use the term peacocking, although not in a flamboyant way. It is just a way for women to see your physical mate value traits IRL. You have to display what you have in order to peak initial attraction in women. So men, show your stuff. In general, body language is a huge part of reading women and flirting at a distance in recognizing IOIs. If you can flirt back, you can gauge h…
/r/seduction28/03/21 02:31 AM
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Masks suck! A wink is a sign of attraction. I would have talked to her, with the obvious subject as how difficult it is to meet people to date with masks on, and then flirt back.
/r/seduction27/03/21 06:48 AM
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Not really sure how to explain this to you in a way that you will believe what I say. For emotionally mature adults (look up emotional intelligence) escalation with women is based on connection (chemistry, empathy). Connection is like a journey without knowing the destination. The interaction could escalate to sex or a deep conversation about a subject you are both passionate about. Until you understand her as a person and her needs (desires), you will not fully know what you want. So, there is …
/r/seduction27/03/21 06:42 AM
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I was told specifically that MGTOW has been characterized as a hate group in the eyes of the moderators. Which in my case was a woman. Although, I don't think her sex had any real bearing on the over stance of the sub. I think the real problem was my references to instinctual behavior in women, and how in general I feel there is no general distinction between persuasion and manipulation in how they are applied in conversation. I was given a path to repent but I stood by my observations.
/r/MGTOW227/03/21 02:13 AM
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Interesting. I was banned by one of the subs, but I used MGTOW directly in comparison to a Red Pill discussion.
/r/MGTOW227/03/21 01:56 AM
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Not sure if this helps, but women have insecurities too, and it's generally just beneath the surface of their persona. In my younger days I used to look at insecurity as weakness, but I think everyone is insecure in some way. I now approach insecurity as just a part of someone's personality. Many are actively trying to address their insecurities the best way they can, and some actually achieve their goals.
/r/seduction27/03/21 01:48 AM
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Seduction doesn't always have to lead to sex, although this is generally the focus. Is there anything specific you would like to learn about seduction from a woman's point of view. I am a man, but I know that emotionally mature women follow this sub.
/r/seduction27/03/21 01:10 AM
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I am interested in what was in the digital pickup course. Can I PM or Chat with you?
/r/seduction27/03/21 01:00 AM
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How old are you?
/r/seduction26/03/21 05:40 PM
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Did you use "MGTOW" in your comment?
/r/MGTOW226/03/21 05:22 PM
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I am still an eligible bachelor, so I am actively dating (best I can with rona). For me in becoming emotionally mature I moved from cold approach to IOIs in pickup. I do still cold (warm?) approach women, but I can tell if they are receptive in someone approaching and open to talk, and I am only really interested in something I sense as unique in their personality. I am really interested in social anthropology so I do strange things at times as viewed from my male friends. I will sense something…
/r/seduction25/03/21 07:22 PM
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So if you didn't cold approach what did you do?
/r/seduction25/03/21 06:00 PM
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I would disagree with what you are saying about tests, and I would encourage men to understand and think about them. Emotional techniques in conversation are just as useful as assertive techniques. Understanding emotional techniques is key in being successful at dating and relationships. Tests are just attempts at emotional control to understand strength of character in a man. As a man you can also use emotional techniques, of which the most basic and well known are "negs", which I consider rath…
/r/seduction25/03/21 03:08 AM
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Perhaps the mental picture of "become a new and better version of yourself" should really be maturing into accepting yourself. You are not becoming a better version. You are just maturing into who you really are by becoming self-aware. Once a person is emotionally mature they can embark on learning new social and communication skills. Are there reasons why people cannot become self-aware. Well yes, with psychological disorders being a huge factor in arrested development. If we look at "learning …
/r/seduction24/03/21 07:01 PM
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You went to therapy, did you get a diagnosis?
/r/seduction24/03/21 09:39 AM
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In my experience before Rona, flirting IOIs at a distance I think are largely instinctual (some would say also involuntary) in women, meaning they will exhibit IOIs (flirt, body language cues) with a man she sees as attractive IRL. These "signals" are incredibly subtle for the most part, and most men have no clue that they are being sent. Usually, men who can read and understand these "signals", are emotionally mature and skilled at reading women (body language). They can also flirt back in a ki…
/r/seduction24/03/21 09:25 AM
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How do I become a man?
/r/seduction24/03/21 08:02 AM
1

Can you tell my why you think it is important. Do you have any examples? Thanks.
/r/seduction23/03/21 07:32 PM
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In your opinion where does emotional intelligence fit into your list?
/r/seduction23/03/21 02:22 AM
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Most men who complete their journey of self-discovery (self-aware) modify their PUA strategies from cold-approach to connection at some point. I think it is a reoccurring theme in how men emotionally mature. I think you modified your approach to one using IOIs? is that correct? How did you seduce your fiancé?
/r/seduction21/03/21 05:43 AM
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If you are interested in impressing the average group of women at the part, learn how to throw a Boomerang. If you get good you can throw one and it will make a nice circular arc and come back to you. Wear gloves, like weight lift / workout gloves to make it easy on your hands. Keep all of your kit in a bag so the women can't see what you have, and ask them do they think Boomerangs really do come back to you if you throw one? Many young women have never seen a real Boomerang come back to somebod…
/r/seduction21/03/21 03:59 AM
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How about a romantic trip to Las Vagas on her?
/r/seduction21/03/21 03:44 AM
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How old are you?
/r/seduction20/03/21 07:44 PM
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Seduction, as a high level technique, depends greatly on the person in how it is used effectively. You would probably need to ask a more specific question about technique in a narrow context to find out specifics. For example: For me, who focuses on IOIs for pick up, I do not cold approach as my primary technique where for other men it is. But to me this is because it best fits who they are or their experience level. Personality traits like neediness or validation are just basic issues with emot…
/r/seduction20/03/21 07:24 PM
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So, I am correct in that you are no longer advocating cold approach?
/r/seduction20/03/21 05:34 AM
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It's interesting, but I find women are not romantic. If you know a woman in a relationship ask her when was the last time she did something romantic for her SO, and ask specifically what it was and why it was romantic. Romance is an idea that men peruse in actual application.
/r/seduction20/03/21 05:11 AM
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Thank you for your age. I can comment in a more meaningful way. I am an Electrical Engineer, so I have already walked the path of self discovery you are on. For a male your age the challenges you face in social skills and communication are almost irrelevant that you have chosen engineering as a career. With the possible exception that you certainly are intelligent, which is important in the rate at which you can learn. To learn high level communication skills you need to be psychologically healt…
/r/seduction20/03/21 04:56 AM
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I generally find a woman asking for a cigarette is usually done in a much different context as a woman asking you (a complete stranger) to buy her a drink. I'm known to be generous with cigarettes with my friends and acquaintances. So I am like the cigarette go to guy. So many times someone is told by a friend that I can be persuaded out of a cigarette. So it's no big deal. The context for a woman asking me to buy her a drink is much different. If it is clear that she is just using me as in a te…
/r/seduction19/03/21 11:34 PM
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How old are you?
/r/seduction19/03/21 11:19 PM
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What age women are you approaching?
/r/seduction18/03/21 08:34 PM
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Really in seduction there are no basic skills. A basic skill would be how to tie a neck tie and bow tie. How to select clothes that fit you or can easily be tailored to fit. How to put together an attractive ensemble. Also basic is to select a cologne that enhances your natural scent. In no particular order for IOIs in pickup, this is just a short list. Emotional intelligence. Empathy skills. Know your seduction character and what it represents. Peacocking, showing your stuff IRL to interested w…
/r/seduction18/03/21 02:58 AM
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I actually care more about connection than sex. My problem with the OP is he seems to be skilled in fun conversation with women, yet not one example is given.
/r/seduction17/03/21 02:56 AM
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Just have fun and relax. No problem. But, it does not give my anything I can use. Can you describe how you approach women? how do you know what your doing is fun? Can you give some examples. Fun is good but tell me what you know about making an emotional connection that leads to trust and then sex.
/r/seduction17/03/21 02:30 AM
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Sorry to hear about your FWB bad experience. I had one FWB experience, which was intense but not healthy in the end. I do think I have matured since then and in a better position to play within the "rules". But, with maturity I have found I also value connection with a woman before getting intimate. It obviously depends on specific circumstances, but I prefer connection to just physical intimacy.
/r/seduction16/03/21 08:36 AM
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How old is your girlfriend?
/r/seduction16/03/21 07:27 AM
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Disclosure: I am a man. If I have a strong emotional connection (nonverbal chemistry) with you (you are a woman) and there is mutual attraction, when I make love to you, you will know I want you, I will know you want me. I will demonstrate my affection and not verbalize it. I know how to please a woman and I will unlock your desires. You will understand that I very much "want you". How do you reconcile your needs of attraction when the man demonstrates his level of attraction? do you still rejec…
/r/seduction16/03/21 07:15 AM
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Do you have any insight to why men fail to become fully emotionally mature?
/r/seduction16/03/21 02:32 AM
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Hi, can you also sense if a man is empathetic (kind) IRL by just observing him?
/r/seduction15/03/21 05:31 AM
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Self-confidence, or having a strong sense of your own self-worth, and not relying on others for your valuation of yourself.
/r/seduction15/03/21 05:19 AM
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Hi, thank you for the link. I have seen this video before the 1 in 31 reference comes from the research done by Dr. Perper in a bar social setting. The video is a little incomplete in that being able to flirt at a distance is just one way to demonstrate understanding women's nonverbal communication. The part B video should have been about how a man uses empathy skills to form an emotional connection by communicating nonverbally. Watching a man experienced in seduction forge an emotional connecti…
/r/seduction15/03/21 01:58 AM
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Do you want a wingman? I am just like you. Unfortunately, the men who can flirt (choosing signals) at a distance and read women before approaching is about 1 in 50 men Gen Y (1 in 31 Gen X) this is my estimate. Having empathy skills to communicate nonverbally in conversation and connection (chemistry) is also a very rare skill, about 1 in 250 men. When women see a man IRL they think is attractive they will flirt, basically as you describe. If as a man you can flirt back, you can have a sort of f…
/r/seduction14/03/21 10:30 PM
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IRL a woman does not know how much money you have in initial attraction, although she can recognize details that represent having money in relation to the general male population. So money is an enabler if used correctly. For example, being fit and healthy. A good diet and the ability to have time to workout and afford to do so takes money. Attractive clothes that are tailored to fit takes money. To a certain extent, if you want to improve yourself, it takes money. If you have money, if used eff…
/r/seduction13/03/21 08:19 PM
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Hi, good to hear your having success in cold approach. My remarks are based on approaching IRL where I live, which is SoCal / LA. My goal in approaching based on IOIs (flirting) is to have a conversation that leads to connection. Maybe you could explain what your goals are in cold approach that they are working "wonderfully", I am envious because I just don't have the time to "approach every woman". I have to be selective. I think my experience with women in connection and trust has a definite t…
/r/seduction13/03/21 12:10 AM
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Very good post overall. In regards to this: "Women fall into only two categories: those who are attracted to you and those who aren't." Only approach women IRL who show initial attraction to you through flirting. And this: "Fit and personal comfort are far more important than price and brand when it comes to clothing." You should wear clothes that project who you are as a person, in the context of attracting women, who are attracted to your "type". Essentially, project your persona. Women will n…
/r/seduction12/03/21 06:02 AM
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Not sure if the following is useful to you or not. I think what you listed: "Athletic, ambitious, self-aware, intelligent, confident, and good conversationalist. Fun in bed. Culturally competent. Likes cuddles. Treats me (and others) with respect." Is perfectly reasonable in terms of a high value male. I think if you date a man with high IQ and EQ (emotional intelligence) that you will have to be able to make a relatively deep emotional connection in order to peak his interest. Men at this level…
/r/seduction12/03/21 01:28 AM
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Do you mean sexual arousal? or sexual tension?
/r/seduction10/03/21 07:39 PM
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When I think about how I interact with an interested woman, I have never felt the need to impress her. Who taught you that in order to have sex with a woman you need to impress her? This is a very old fashioned notion. I can expand more on what you have posted, in terms of my own experience. It is important to understand that conversation with an interested woman in not just words, much of the communication is nonverbal. Words are important but not as important as nonverbals in making a connecti…
/r/seduction10/03/21 06:57 AM
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Not sure if the following is useful to anyone, but as an engineer, I thought it may be helpful in sharing what I know about women. What I know is based on my own experience in understanding women's instinctual behavior. I divide attraction in meeting women IRL into two basic categories; initial attraction and mate value attraction. Initial attraction is based on seeing a man IRL, looks, body language, walk, etc. IRL women will start to flirt with a man she sees as attractive. Mate value attracti…
/r/seduction09/03/21 09:31 PM
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I think the reasons men seek women (or even escorts) are very diverse and go beyond just validation. Some men feel compelled to get married in order to satisfy a deep seated need. Some men seek escorts just for the physical act of sex. Some are motivated by the need for companionship without wanting validation. It is really hard to lump motivation into just validation. I find the more interesting question is what is driving these needs in men? I find in talking to men about this that the reasons…
/r/seduction08/03/21 08:37 PM
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To respond to what you said: "Popular culture and society has dealt with romance and dating since recorded history." I have found that men who act on needs and ideals as stated above, have the worse outcome in relationships. They try to fulfill needs that are not their own and are largely misguided in how healthy relationships are formed and maintained. "All of the acronyms, daygame/nightgame, charts, etc. Since we were all the product of a man and a woman (hopefully consensually), one would thi…
/r/seduction07/03/21 10:01 PM
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My approach differs from yours. I am trying to forge an emotional connection (nonverbal, chemistry) with an interested woman. This is an evolving process and you need information to guide you. For example, who she is as a person and what are her immediate needs (desires). You are guiding the conversation based on feedback from her in real-time. So what you do in creating sexual tension is based on who she is and what she does. You are actively trying to maintain emotional dominance and keep her …
/r/seduction07/03/21 05:46 AM
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Agree for the most part, with my summation as follows: Emotionally mature adults understand they are responsible for their own happiness and basic needs. Both partners enter into a relationship from their own independent and successful lives.
/r/seduction06/03/21 09:00 PM
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I can speak better to attracting women rather than girls. What I mean by the difference is in patterns of behavior. In my experience emotionally mature women have identifiable patterns of instinctual behavior. Younger women, girls?, are often not emotionally mature. So although I can still create connections, I don't see as consistent trends. With the above distinction, attracting women is never effortless. In regards to: "Affirm your Reality" This is unnecessary if you are emotionally mature (s…
/r/seduction06/03/21 08:29 PM
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Sorry for the following if it sounds like a cross examination. But, I am really curious about this subject. There is no "who" in Movies, culture, society. You adopted beliefs not your own and not anyone specific who could personally influence you. Why where these unsubstantiated needs so compelling to you?
/r/MGTOW206/03/21 05:05 AM
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What type of man would you like to seduce?
/r/seduction06/03/21 04:57 AM
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Who taught you "getting the girl" is the ultimate achievement in life?
/r/MGTOW206/03/21 03:21 AM
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I think I would characterize my style more as assertive. Maybe you could give me an example of where I was snarky? You and I disagree on many things, but that doesn't make me a troll, and I don't attack you personally on the forum like you just did to me.
/r/seduction05/03/21 09:41 PM
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Talking to human beings is not why someone has a wingman. If you are showcasing conversational techniques that's great, but it's not a wingman. A wingman is a man of similar skill level in pickup that understand the dynamic of assisting in approaching (seducing) women with romantic intent.
/r/seduction05/03/21 09:34 PM
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Well what Neil is sensing is not intangible, it's emotional maturity. The young man was not self-aware, that is, he lacked accurate self-assessment (could not recognize his worth in himself). The issue here is Neil not knowing that what he is sensing is self-confidence, which is a part of being self-aware. In other words, if you understand women and relationships you will understand the roadblocks involved in learning communication skills. The problem for me is Neil does not understand the conce…
/r/seduction05/03/21 04:50 PM
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Why would you want to be my wingman, you don't even know me?
/r/seduction05/03/21 04:37 PM
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Cold approach is not a skill. Conversation is a skill. Reading women and flirting at a distance is a skill. Understanding initial attraction in women and when to approach is a skill. Identifying basic personality traits in women by just reading body language is a skill.
/r/seduction05/03/21 04:35 PM
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So would you say mission accomplished. Are you now Charismatic after reading this book?
/r/seduction05/03/21 04:10 PM
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When on a date I find it beneficial to look at her.
/r/seduction05/03/21 05:16 AM
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Can you be more specific, exactly what theory do you find nonsensical?
/r/seduction05/03/21 05:10 AM
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Can you tell me what's the goal of your conversation with these girls?
/r/seduction05/03/21 05:03 AM
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I think emotionally mature adults act in their own self interest when it comes to dating and relationships. To a large extent everything we do related to dating is persuasion and fulfilling needs. In communication there is not much difference between persuasion and manipulation. Meaning, in seduction, emotionally mature adults are essentially trying to manipulate each other to satisfy desires (needs). At what point do you decide persuasion is manipulation? Don't try it's largely a pointless exer…
/r/seduction05/03/21 04:58 AM
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I think for dating and relationships it is easier to look at communication with women as largely emotional. Meaning conversation techniques are emotionally based. From a practical standpoint, emotional based manipulation (tests) are the most common advantage a woman has over an immature man, and I have found "tests" are largely instinctual. However, women can cognitively hone their instinctual tendencies. If you want a mind set, think of communication with women as an emotional battlefield. Comm…
/r/seduction04/03/21 09:08 PM
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I do even with a mask on.
/r/seduction04/03/21 08:35 PM
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Some comments: As you said women choose men for sex. Totally agree. Looks and presentation are critical for initial attraction in women. I think women do want an attractive face, however many are not as picky in exactly what this means. I have a nice body and attractive walk, and I think I have above average looks, but what I have found is women when they see me walking IRL don't look at my face first. First they look at my chest to waist ratio (the V look), then they look at leg length to heigh…
/r/seduction04/03/21 07:40 AM
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I wonder how many women will answer this question in any great detail? Because you are asking women to cognitively describe what they experience instinctually IRL through initial attraction. Initial attraction IRL is similar to they know it when they see it. The goal for all men should be to make the most powerful first impression with women. You want to project who you are in your presentation. The more detailed you are and congruent with your personality the greater initial attraction.
/r/seduction04/03/21 04:24 AM
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I usually smile and don't say a word, and then redirect the conversation.
/r/seduction04/03/21 04:12 AM
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Emotionally mature men don't. They know that their SO is responsible for her own happiness, and the man is responsible for his own. The key to a good life is to fulfill your needs first.
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 04:06 AM
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Can I ask your age and sex? It will help me be more specific in my comments. Thanks.
/r/seduction04/03/21 03:59 AM
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I have to provide some background to reflecting on what you said in your comment, so just bear with me. I have not read the book "Charisma Myth" but I can tell you Charisma is real. I think for an emotionally mature male, charisma is when self-confidence and seduction character (personality) merge and become congruent. Charisma is an extension of who you are as a person, it is not at its core learned, you mature into it. Charisma is an interesting topic because people describe it as something so…
/r/seduction03/03/21 09:48 PM
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There is no universally attractive man. When you match a woman's type (desire) IRL she will flirt. The types woman like are very diverse. The seeming randomness is normal. If you are at a venue where you are not getting any interest change locations.
/r/seduction02/03/21 09:49 PM
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I bring what she emotionally desires.
/r/seduction02/03/21 08:42 PM
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Not sure how to convince you of this, but women choose men for sex. You will never convince an uninterested woman to have sex with you. Only approach women who show initial attraction to you through flirting. In reference to: " Guys are turned on by what they see, girls are turned on by what they hear." For initial attraction IRL women are even more objectifying than men. They see much more detail in the man's presentation and do it very quickly. Also: " Women want their beauty to be witnessed a…
/r/seduction02/03/21 02:29 AM
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I also pay the price. But, its the way I have always behaved in work environments. I remain unafraid.
/r/MGTOW201/03/21 10:07 PM
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I know I cannot control the actions of others, and I don't try through way of my own professional behavior. I am not afraid of consequences based on my actions when I feel something needs to be said to benefit the work environment. I will assertively say what I feel is important, what another person does with this is up to them. I don't tolerate disrespect. Do you?
/r/MGTOW201/03/21 10:01 PM
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Based on your age, if you are psychologically healthy (no untreated disorders) then your difficulties are because you are emotionally immature. To learn more look up emotional intelligence. For example: your feelings of inferiority are due to you not being self-aware. The vast majority of young people on reddit having dating or relationship problems, I have found, either have untreated trauma or are emotionally immature or both. Basically, they are not ready for relationships. A simple example i…
/r/seduction01/03/21 09:55 PM
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If you can flirt at a distance you do not need to approach uninterested women. Only approach women who show initial attraction to you first. I prefer talking to interested women one-to-one and not in groups. Although, if she is with a friend I will still approach and introduce myself, and the dynamic can be very fun especially if her friend is married and unavailable. I also approach if she is in a group of three women. For groups of four or more women, I usually wimp out. I tend to get into emp…
/r/seduction01/03/21 09:44 PM
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How would you classify a pro at seduction?
/r/seduction01/03/21 08:30 AM
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I would have to say that I refuse to act submissive (passive) at work, and because of this, I usually am shown the door within a relatively short amount of time. I assertively stand my ground with both men and women I work with, and usually at some point they see me as a threat in some way, either personally or professionally. This is a repeating pattern with both male dominant and female run work environments. Would you say I am not compatible with the dynamics of your work place?
/r/MGTOW201/03/21 08:24 AM
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How old are you?
/r/seduction01/03/21 08:00 AM
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What do you do when you have a legitimate disagreement with these tyrants?
/r/MGTOW201/03/21 07:52 AM
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So you are a man (electrical engineer) and you work with three women engineers?
/r/MGTOW201/03/21 06:48 AM
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You could ask her to stop talking about personal matters at work. Like: "I feel uneasy when you discuss your relationship with your husband, I would prefer we not discuss this at work, does this sound reasonable to you?" Would the above still be taken as a personal attack?
/r/MGTOW201/03/21 06:46 AM
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What does EE stand for in this context? Thanks.
/r/MGTOW201/03/21 03:01 AM
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What did the Alpha female do to choose you? was she up front with wanting sex? how did the conversation go leading to her intentions? Just curious. Thanks.
/r/MGTOW201/03/21 02:59 AM
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My impression was you thought there was a pattern of behavior over time. I guess this was a bad assumption on my part.
/r/MGTOW228/02/21 08:42 PM
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I find this useful: You should try and uncover why they are complaining about their husbands. Ask something like; "Do you feel it is disrespectful to talk about your husband like that?" Find out the why behind behavior and you can gain more insight in to what is really happening.
/r/MGTOW228/02/21 07:59 PM
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Online Dating (OLD) is hard for everyone. Especially women who need to see men IRL in order to gauge attraction. Both partners can put in a lot of effort to set up a date only to find there is no mutual attraction. Which is incredibly frustrating and disheartening. OLD doesn't work well for me. I need to interact with women IRL to understand attraction. I have true empathy and flirt at a distance with women IRL. OLD is almost useless to me. I wanted to touch on confidence, which is called self-c…
/r/seduction28/02/21 04:56 AM
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I want to start with your last paragraph: " One last point: it is my humble opinion that it is the woman that chooses you; not the other way around." This is 100% correct. You are indeed a student of female behavior. Without initial attraction from women you cannot escalate towards sex. It is a hard lesson for a man to learn that he is not a conquering knight slaying the woman of his fancy, he is more like a peacock enticing women to show interest and initial attraction. I think it is this image…
/r/seduction27/02/21 11:21 PM
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I could help you get more specific with your articles in terms of men's behavior and maturity. PM me if you are interested. For example, I can expand on male self-confidence from what you have in your article.
/r/seduction27/02/21 10:52 PM
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How would you define a REAL Pick-up Artist?
/r/seduction27/02/21 10:18 PM
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How did you acquire your self-confidence? When did you know you achieved it?
/r/seduction27/02/21 09:02 PM
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If you emotionally mature you don't have to talk about sex verbally. Through connection and escalation you move towards trust and then intimacy. Connection between emotionally mature adults with mutual attraction, sex is always a possibility. Demonstrate you affection don't talk about it.
/r/seduction27/02/21 12:57 AM
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What do you think are the main factors in "locking down" a high-value male?
/r/seduction26/02/21 08:33 AM
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I can only speak for myself, but when a woman is attracted to me IRL, she can't hide it, it is like an involuntary reaction to me and she will flirt. I don't need to approach to know she is attracted to me. I can then flirt back to learn more about her. Seduction is about satisfying needs. Before I even approach and talk to a woman I can understand a lot about how she views me and her needs. I am already screening before I even talk to her.
/r/seduction23/02/21 05:01 AM
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No, I really don't miss anything when it comes to flirting and understanding interested women at a distance. I don't need to assume anything. I know which women are interested in me and which are not. Why would I approach an uninterested woman? I have found that initial attraction in women is largely instinctual (involuntary), and women will flirt with men they find attractive. Also, older mature women are very effective at sending and receiving flirting signals. The challenge is in reading Gen …
/r/seduction23/02/21 04:10 AM
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There is a definite starting pattern to relationships with women. The first is emotional connection, which is nonverbal (you are not verbally expressing emotions), women who are attracted to you will be receptive to forging an emotional connection. Many call this having "chemistry". Next, is establishing trust. This is done through conversation and connection. Trust is an important step that will take time, how much depends on the woman and her needs. Many PUAs never talk about how trust takes t…
/r/seduction22/02/21 05:48 PM
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I think if you are emotional mature the fear of rejection is largely ignored. Meaning, you recognize on an emotional level that the fear of rejection is a false fear (emotion), that is, you are not in any physical danger. If you are self-aware you can recognize and ignore this fear (emotion). You do not need to mask it, which I think is an interim solution for many who are not self-aware. Also, if you are emotionally mature you are able to flirt at a distance with women. I would consider this th…
/r/seduction22/02/21 05:32 PM
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I would say we are very different in our approach to women. I find, in general for relationships, Gen Z young women seem to be delayed in emotional development in some way, flirting and social skills are a good example. Obviously, this does not apply to all women in the age range, and when the women become self-aware they seem to mature at a rapid pace. If we talk about emotionally mature women I think their signals of initial attraction (flirting) are easy to understand, and to gauge the level …
/r/seduction22/02/21 05:18 PM
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The guide is really not very complete. Escalation is not a step-by-step formula and much of what is happening between the partners is nonverbal. Escalation is driven by relative needs and how these needs are communicated. The interaction is dynamic and what you do depends on what she wants (needs). It is an evolving process which is happening in real-time. Escalation can originate from both partners. For example, after being playful she may kiss you first. Every woman is different so what you do…
/r/seduction22/02/21 08:23 AM
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The advice was directed at the women's peer group and not you. It's not uncommon when asking these kinds of questions to a group of women. The following is my input: 'Girls don't care THAT much about looks or whether you seem like a player or not. Absolute BS. I think women are even more detailed in a man's mate value (looks, nonverbals, etc.) for initial attraction than men are with women. 'You figure out on a date whether you have personality chemistry with someone, not in the approach' More B…
/r/seduction22/02/21 07:41 AM
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Are you saying change your mindset to address the fear of rejection?
/r/seduction22/02/21 05:24 AM
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I though when a woman shows initial attraction to a man she will start to flirt with him, are you saying that this is untrue or just unimportant from your point of view? Do you have a guess to why Gen Z women are unable to show choosing signals (flirt)?
/r/seduction22/02/21 05:04 AM
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Are you talking about Gen Z women or all women in general?
/r/seduction22/02/21 02:01 AM
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Your comment is valid for the limited information we have, meaning we don't really know her nonverbal communication. All we have from the OP is a written summary. I don't generally cold approach, I usually flirt to gauge attraction first, so I have some idea of her personality and frame of mind. That being said, I do cold approach on occasion. I would agree with you that for cold approach the OP does not fully understand cold approach strategy. For example, the dynamic changed when she approach …
/r/seduction21/02/21 07:00 PM
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It would seem the concept of "depth" is in making a deeper connection with someone rather than fixating on sex. So are you saying that it is better to strive for more meaningful LTRs rather than ONSs or FWBs?
/r/seduction20/02/21 07:33 PM
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Even Neo needed to unplug.
/r/seduction20/02/21 07:25 PM
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In regards to: "The success of a relationship should be measured by it's depth" What does this even mean?
/r/seduction20/02/21 07:11 PM
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I see things slightly differently: In regards to: "And it is a question of leadership. Women like to be led. This is not a misogynist statement. The whole reason for a shit test is a validation for them that you, as a man are worth following." I find "tests" in conversation and connection to be largely driven by instinct. Meaning there isn't really a thought process to uncover. I prefer to describe "tests" as a way to test a man's character, the underlying driver is emotion. "tests" are very use…
/r/MGTOW219/02/21 08:47 PM
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What do you do when the woman has money and time, is married and takes off her ring, and when found out says she is separated?
/r/TheRedPill19/02/21 08:05 AM
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Confidence cannot be faked, and even more disappointing is it really can't be demonstrated as effectively as IRL using the written word. Can confidence be taught? No. Self-Confidence is a part of becoming self-aware, which is an individual journey each must make on their own. Confidence is not relying on others for your validation of yourself. Confidence comes from feelings of well-being, acceptance of your body and mind (self-image) and belief in your own ability, skills and experience. The cha…
/r/seduction19/02/21 08:01 AM
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The power of the mind, it can be a prison or a paradise. You decide.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/21 07:09 AM
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I think she talked about several important things in the video which can be put into practice. Here is what I think is important: She talks about men radiating something, mostly described as masculine energy, but somehow men don't know they are radiating it. How is this possible? IRL woman can understand much about a man before talking to him. This initial attraction is largely instinctual and many would say involuntary. As a man if you understand what makes you attractive to woman, you can poli…
/r/seduction19/02/21 06:51 AM
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The PDF looks correct and complete. First published in English in GB in 1972. Having read the book I think times have changed from the societal norms at play, however an undercurrent to the overall book is why are men (or anybody for that matter) easily manipulated is pursuing needs that are not their own. The observation is one has to be mature enough to understand why they may embark upon dating and relationships, and do so in a prepared way to address their needs first. Any thoughts?
/r/MGTOW218/02/21 10:10 PM
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You and I have a lot in common in terms of stressing the importance of connection. Which I call emotional connection, which is largely nonverbal, it is a way to communicate desire between the partners. Emotional maturity is key in making an emotional connection. I think you will find the PUA shorthand is largely for the benefit on men who are not emotionally mature, but need to start somewhere. I find many men on this sub are not emotionally mature. So when you talk about "chemistry" (emotional …
/r/seduction17/02/21 08:35 AM
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In making an emotional connection (nonverbal, chemistry) with a woman demonstrate your affection and don't talk about it. If you feel she wants to be touched, touch her, if she wants to be kissed, kiss her. If she wants to be held, hold her.
/r/seduction17/02/21 08:19 AM
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From a big picture standpoint this post, is like many others on this sub, focused on how men need to step up and address their behavior to attract women. While at the same time saying we should treat women as people. I think implied in this is, women "as people" have just as many dating, personal development and relationship challenges as men. The post, in a way, is contradictory in this regard. That is, it attempts to remove this pedestal concept in young men, but still not seeing women as an e…
/r/seduction15/02/21 05:21 AM
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Would you consider remembering numbers using the phonetic alphabet a form of mnemonic?
/r/seduction15/02/21 12:41 AM
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Being a ballroom and salsa dancer of +12 years, you have to be very fit, and as you stated, will learn proper dance posture. However, this is a very expensive and time consuming approach to posture correction. To make it through "ballroom hell" you really have to love to dance. I have found, men that have a true passion for dance to be persistent enough to change everyday posture is very rare. Another bonus of being a ballroom dancer over time is it will improve the way you walk and move (poise)…
/r/seduction14/02/21 08:45 PM
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I would like to add, to me, implied in Perfect Practice is understanding the most effective way for a person to learn. That is, honing learning skills will help you retain what you read and/or experience, and this is individual based. For example, I really like the concept of journaling and scripting when it comes to learning conversation techniques. However, someone else may not benefit at all in doing these. I have found the challenge is in "high quality information" when it comes to understan…
/r/seduction14/02/21 08:10 PM
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Why do you want to date women? What do you want?
/r/seduction14/02/21 03:24 AM
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It's interesting to me how two basic schools of thought, PUA and Seduction, converge in many ways at the end of a long process of personal growth in being more skilled at successfully dating women, and along the way, understanding both instinctual and cognitive behavior in women. For definitions I think most people on this subreddit understand PUA concepts, however for, what I call Seduction, I mean techniques based largely on Emotional Intelligence (EQ), Conversation, Intelligence (IQ) and Conn…
/r/seduction14/02/21 01:52 AM
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I would minimize the amount of OLD banter, and focus more on seeing them in person before making any assumptions about their personality. I have met some women who are emotionally mature in their early 20s. I would say they have very secure and confident personalities which may seem like they are masculine. However, I don't view these emotionally mature women as masculine. Many are expecting men they date to bring the same level of maturity to a relationship.
/r/seduction12/02/21 07:43 PM
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What are the age ranges of these women?
/r/seduction12/02/21 07:22 PM
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Well, I would say the majority of your points are insults. However, as per your comment: "You also completely contradict yourself by saying conversations should be natural and unplanned, but then proceed to break down conversation responses into four categories." The four categories for responding to a question are basic choices to pick from. Which one you choose depends on the conversation in real-time. I think our basic disagreement is you believe that you can teach someone charisma, where I b…
/r/seduction12/02/21 05:01 AM
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I would add, how you walk and move (poise). Being skilled at conversation both verbal and nonverbal. Flirting at a distance. I think you should add, overall, the concept of being congruent. Congruent means you are consistent in how you dress, act and project who you are as a person. It like projecting a persona which is consistent in every aspect. People in general are comfortable with this because they, to a certain extent, know what to expect in talking to you. It is not really a stereotype, i…
/r/seduction12/02/21 04:00 AM
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The example you use about the author is the same argument PUAs use to convince men that they can teach them to be confident around women. You can't teach someone to be confident or charismatic. It is realized after their own personal journey of self discovery. Also, just because her students are executives does not mean they are prepared to learn high level communication techniques. I think many executives are physiologically unhealthy and exhibit behavior akin to having a psychological mask in …
/r/seduction12/02/21 03:27 AM
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In reference to the book, I find it interesting to get advice of how to talk to women by a woman. In terms of dating, the techniques are not as, let's say enlightening. A better general rule is, as a man you are not obligated to answer any question or respond to any statement. Take control of the conversation and guide it were you want it to go. Also, you do not have to only ask questions. You can make a pointed statement that you feel will allow her to respond in an open way to uncover who she …
/r/seduction11/02/21 09:31 PM
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So the target audience is men? who are dating?
/r/seduction11/02/21 08:42 AM
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In reference to: "Women are taught to accept certain things, and a lot of them are too young to know where their choices are leading them." Who or what are teaching these women?
/r/seduction11/02/21 08:38 AM
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Who is the target audience for this advice? The advice seems to target men who are emotionally immature. Is this the intent? For example with the statement: "Don't be that guy; drop the social conditioning." If you are emotionally mature "social conditioning" will not drive your needs or behavior.
/r/seduction11/02/21 08:12 AM
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Would you say initial attraction in women towards a man they see as attractive IRL is instinctual (intuition) or cognitive (reasoning)?
/r/seduction08/02/21 08:39 PM
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I find it very interesting that posts like this can make men sound so incredibly immature in general. Men who are psychologically healthy and emotionally mature, meaning they are ready to date, don't behave as suggested. For seduction it would be much more beneficial to focus on men who are ready to date (seduce) and have advanced skills to share. Let's assume that the OP is psychologically healthy. This is in contrast to many of the comments which focus on sociopaths, which is irrelevant to men…
/r/seduction07/02/21 07:49 PM
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Who taught you to idealize women? and why did it diminish gradually?
/r/seduction04/02/21 09:16 AM
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How old are you?
/r/seduction02/02/21 01:11 AM
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The phrase "it just happened" usually references social safety in relation to the woman's peer group. As you said, not to be labeled a slut. It's not really society that is the concern or driver, it is the woman's immediate peer group.
/r/seduction01/02/21 04:23 AM
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The power of the mind, it can be a paradise or a prison. You decide.
/r/seduction31/01/21 09:58 PM
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How do you know she is high quality before you date her?
/r/seduction31/01/21 02:58 AM
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My approach to conversation and connection is vastly different. I actually minimize disclosure. I don't talk about feelings. I demonstrate my affection physically, I don't need to talk about it. I guide the conversation where I want it to go. I am interested in sexual tension (keeping her emotionally off balance), why would I waist time initiating talk about my childhood. There is a huge difference in being a woman's friend as opposed to lover. If you are in a LTR you can cultivate friendship ov…
/r/seduction30/01/21 10:36 PM
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Obviously, we have two successful methods here, and our differences may be purely in our look, mannerisms and escalation. I can read women really well so uncovering needs, etc. is a relatively quick process in the course of the conversation. What I did not make clear is that until I understand some basics I don't know what direction I will go. So, the process is evolving and could be based on very basic needs (desires), which is not complicated. But, some women are more complicated than others. …
/r/seduction30/01/21 07:00 AM
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How do you "Make her enter your frame. Make her come towards you. Create tension." if you don't know who she is? What are her needs, motivations, desires, insecurities, etc. Would you agree that at some point you have to fine tune game as to the woman as a person? How do you motivate effectively, without know her needs?
/r/seduction30/01/21 03:10 AM
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I don't think I would call it controlled silence, for me it is probably better described as; Don't be afraid of silence or long pauses. The reason is, for a man who is emotionally mature, communication is both verbal and nonverbal. Silence just means communicating without words. Silence (long pauses) tend to slow down and relax the pace of conversation, which I find has a very calming effect. For example, on one extreme you would be holding and caressing her in complete silence, no words, but yo…
/r/seduction30/01/21 02:32 AM
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The Golden Rectangle. A most appealing ratio.
/r/seduction30/01/21 01:44 AM
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I like your comment. I would like to get your input on the following: 1: " Women go by their intuition - the feeling in their gut. That’s why the answers you got seemed so vague and intangible." I would like to discuss the use of the word intuition as compared to instinct. So, yes I agree initial attraction in women is not cognitive, and I previously adopted the word intuition to describe behavior. I have since adopted the word instinct to describe initial attraction in women, the reason being, …
/r/seduction30/01/21 01:34 AM
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I would agree with what you say, I dislike the generalizations. However, in forming strategies you have to have a base as a starting point in regards to understanding instinctual behavior. How this is applied is based on the individual woman, who she is as a person, her needs and insecurities, etc.
/r/seduction29/01/21 04:56 PM
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I think OLD is basically for introductions. When you meet women IRL that is when you can escalate to sex. Would you agree? If you are fortunate enough that she is actually attracted to you IRL after corresponding and setting things up with apps, then my point is, she is not cognitively trying to understand and identity her emotions, all she knows is she is attracted. I disagree about most reasonable guys are looking for lust. I think they are looking to have sex. Intimacy (sex) only comes after …
/r/seduction29/01/21 04:29 PM
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Is this Andy? I agree about being fit and lean. I have more a dancer body (soccer) that body builder, but I am cut in my arms, chest, back and legs, with the V look. I have a low body fat ratio but not a six pack just a block of abs. I was initially interested in your link because of the title for two levels of attraction in women. However, I have a different interpretation or the two levels, but to be fair mine only apply IRL encounters and not OLD; The first is initial attraction (before conve…
/r/seduction28/01/21 09:48 PM
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And at what point did you have the STD talk?
/r/TheRedPill28/01/21 09:32 AM
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How do women IRL sense "magnetic energy", is it just visual at a distance or does it also take conversation, or is a mix of both?
/r/seduction26/01/21 08:37 AM
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Perhaps what is missing is being emotionally mature which is different than "emotionally stable", which I think the OP context is describing as a symptom. I think part of the "calm magnetic energy" is being self-aware. But let's talk more about "magnetic energy", could you please describe it in more detail. In my parlance, in the context of seduction, I call this being able to project yourself. I can go into more detail if you would like. I think the point I am making though is the fact women ar…
/r/seduction26/01/21 02:10 AM
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Thank you for your response. There is a formal conversational technique to set boundaries of proper behavior (modifying behavior). PM of Chat if you would like to know more.
/r/seduction26/01/21 01:20 AM
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Can you give examples of how to implement these ideas? If not all, then just give me your technique in how to disagree with a woman that is attractive? What do you say?
/r/seduction25/01/21 10:01 PM
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Perhaps, because of its basic general content, this should probably be posted in r/socialskills and not r/seduction? Communication in dating and relationships related to connection and seduction are high level techniques and specific enough to be viewed as unique skills in themselves, built upon basic foundational conversation skills like in this post. In complete fairness, MK may have this as the plan to roll out his techniques.
/r/seduction25/01/21 09:10 PM
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Being self-aware is foundational, what the person does with it is up to the individual. However, without being self-aware, you are essentially disabled. Being self-aware usually leads to recognition of others (empathy) and then emotional maturity (emotional intelligence) which, overall helps and cultivates self-confidence. In the end you will accept and value yourself (attractive) for who you are. Being content with yourself is an attractive trait.
/r/seduction24/01/21 08:26 PM
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I think as you age you hopefully mature. If you are psychologically healthy many men become self-aware around the age of 33 on average (this is my educated guess), and can become fully emotionally mature shortly thereafter (1 or 2 years). Very few adult males become emotionally mature before the age of 30. Being emotionally mature is what leads to self-confidence and other traits that women recognize as attractive in a mate. The bad news is many men do not complete their journey of becoming self…
/r/seduction24/01/21 10:38 AM
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There are two basic reasons I don't get nervous or have problems talking to strangers. The first is I am emotionally mature and the second is I am very skill at reading people at a distance. Usually being nervous is linked to an emotion, usually fear, specifically the fear of rejection. Adults who are emotionally mature recognize the fear of rejection, and ignore it. The fear of rejection is a false fear, meaning you are not in any imminent danger of bodily harm, and is manifested in your mind a…
/r/seduction24/01/21 10:26 AM
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I think technically, as a pathology, social anxiety (nervousness) is not normal. Although, as you say it is wide spread and common amongst both genders. Have you been able to identify why you are nervous in approaching girls?
/r/seduction24/01/21 04:03 AM
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I have been skilled at reading women and having true empathy skills for about 10 years now. If I am able to observe a woman for at most up to about 5 minutes, I can tell a lot about her openness to having someone approach. Girls on the street or shopping will show interest in a man they see as attractive. They will also give signs that you could have a short conversation. Realistically though, in the general population, eligible men and women who are mature enough for a relationship and actively…
/r/seduction24/01/21 03:58 AM
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Not sure if your looking for feedback. If not just skip this comment. If so, read at your own discretion. You may not like what you read. For me a high level seduction technique is called guiding the conversation. The goal is discovery, fun and emotional intensity. The topics are anything but random. They form part of a strategy in understanding the needs of an interested woman. How you guide the conversation depends on who she is and what she wants (needs, desires). There is a huge problem with…
/r/seduction23/01/21 10:19 PM
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Seduction as a skill can be used for good or ill. For me, seduction is an extension of making an emotional connection with a woman which is nonbelligerent. That being said, to directly answer your question, as a man I don't really know the intentions of an interested woman until I find out who she and her needs, then I reflect on my own needs, and see if there is a basis for a relationship, which can be very diverse, or potentially, none at all. So in understanding a woman and her needs, the app…
/r/seduction23/01/21 07:35 PM
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I would like to add: A "simp" is easily emotionally manipulated by women. Essentially, he is weak minded.
/r/MGTOW223/01/21 06:54 PM
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Thank you for the list. I think it would be helpful if a real world example of behavior was given for each rule, but I understand making the list brief and referencing a video. So I would like to give my take on the list as written. Items 1 and 2: If you are skilled at communication (conversation, emotionally mature) both verbal and nonverbal, silence (no dialog) is really not a gap, you are still communication nonverbally, and you are showing that you understand your partner and pace the conver…
/r/seduction22/01/21 07:22 PM
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Do you know the cause of your social anxiety?
/r/seduction20/01/21 12:15 AM
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I would like to add to your comment. I think what is important about initial attraction in women is it forms the basis for an emotional connection, which leads to trust and then intimacy. Peacocking is the term I use to describe presenting your best self to attract women. What I do is dress specifically to project who I am. So as presenting yourself as a "type" everything, from clothes to how you walk, is focused on persona, in other words your complete presentation is congruent. This will help …
/r/seduction19/01/21 09:41 PM
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The quick answer is to stop comparing yourself to others. The long answer is complicated and costly. A psychological trick may help you modify your self-image. So, you should come to the realization that sexual market value (perceived status) is more than looks. It is also psychological health, physical health, emotional maturity, intelligence, drive, career, etc. Meaning your comparison is flawed from the begging if only judged by looks. Digging a little deeper, I think you will find that the o…
/r/seduction19/01/21 07:43 AM
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Here is where being charismatic fits into social skills: Social skills may include a wide range of relationship and interpersonal skills. These range from leadership through to influencing and persuading, and managing conflict, as well as working in a team. The term ‘social skills’ covers a wide variety of skills and competencies, many of which are rooted in self-esteem and personal confidence. By developing your social skills, being easy to talk to, being a good listener, being sharing and trus…
/r/seduction18/01/21 04:25 AM
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How do I learn? It's a good question, and important because in order to learn you must have certain prerequisites. Why? Dating and relationships are rooted in communication, both verbal and nonverbal. As with any skill, the question should be asked, What is needed to learn? I wanted to first define some terms so we know what we are talking about. Sexual Tension is created during connection through communication, largely nonverbal. For a mutually attracted couple, sexual tension is present in the…
/r/seduction18/01/21 04:03 AM
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When it comes to seduction, which I view as a high level technique based on emotional connection, I know how to maintain sexual tension in conversation, I know how to be playful and keep her emotionally off balance. In my approach, I don't establish initial attraction, this is needed before I approach and introduce myself, after which I forge an emotional connection. Emotional connection is two way and is what leads to trust (comfort?). As I said, I don't cold approach, I approach women after th…
/r/seduction17/01/21 07:40 PM
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I did not ask for a script, I asked for techniques. So give me an example of your pick up conversation technique. Just tell me some basics, like what are your goals, and perhaps how to deal with tests.
/r/seduction17/01/21 06:46 PM
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Does this approach work for you? Even though you have the tag conversation, you did not give any specific examples of conversational techniques?
/r/seduction17/01/21 10:57 AM
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I don't think a graphic t-shirt would work for me. Maybe a high quality black long sleeved T made out of Pima Cotton. But, other than this, I don't see the value in Ts as a way to communicate status.
/r/seduction17/01/21 10:52 AM
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I do think there are differences between the generalized PUA approach, which I would say I don't fully understand, as compared to an empathy and seduction based approach, which I would say I am fluent. Also, I think as men reach the age of around 30 the two basic approaches I believe do merge to some extent. One main driver in polishing the techniques is emotional intelligence (emotional maturity). I think much of how I would describe what is happening perhaps comes down to semantics, but I will…
/r/seduction17/01/21 10:35 AM
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Disclosure: I am a man. So women please provide input. Where did you learn, for initial attraction, looks are secondary to women? I really dislike the blanked generalization in describing dating behavior, so understand I am only talking about a majority and not, obviously, all women. I think the confusion is rooted in the fact that there are two basic types of attraction. The first is initial attraction based on looks and nonverbal (body language) and best evaluated IRL (before conversation), an…
/r/seduction17/01/21 08:04 AM
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Can you be more specific?
/r/seduction17/01/21 01:47 AM
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Is there anything specific you would like to know in relation to what Leo said? Leo is perhaps not as detailed as he should be in using terms to understand an outcome. He seems a bit disjointed in cause and effect. Let's dig a little deeper a paragraph at a time. Please forgive the use of generalities, I am just using Leo's context. Women are not sexually aroused in the same way as guys. They are not aroused by visuals alone. They are attracted to powerful personality and presence and leadership…
/r/seduction16/01/21 04:10 AM
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No, I think a 55 year old man would be able to manage.
/r/seduction14/01/21 04:43 AM
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Flirting at a distance includes eye contact, smiling, body language, gestures, etc. you are observing all of her signals without staring. I find it valuable to see how she carries herself while standing (posture) and walking, if possible. I start to get an overall impression of her personality and try to understand her needs. When you can flirt back then you have a sort of flirting conversation in real-time, so what you might do depends on the context and progression between the two of you. It i…
/r/seduction11/01/21 07:03 AM
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In reference to this: "There was a great book a few years called the Book of Pook, and it was basically about how men learn to remember how it was to be a child again. Children just go after whatever they think is fun without worrying about pleasing or being censored by women. If you can somehow recapture that, you will be attractive to women." Yes I agree about being playful. But, as a man who can read woman, I try and identify who she is as a person, and then identify what she wants (needs), t…
/r/seduction08/01/21 08:28 PM
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If you emotionally mature and skilled at reading women through empathy (body language etc.) there is no real dance in terms of being a rigid step-by-step approach. You are just able to read people at a distance and understand their emotions. To a person who does not have this skill, it seems like hocus pocus. I know other men on reddit that have this skill, however it is rare. For a man it is beneficial because initial attraction (flirting at a distance) in women (9 out of 10 women) is largely i…
/r/seduction08/01/21 07:56 PM
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Its focus is self-image from Maltz's historical view. The first two chapters talk about self-image and imagination, which is a good preface into some of the accepted techniques of journaling and affirmation as a technique to address distorted believes about yourself. If you go to Amazon you can get a good idea about the two books.
/r/seduction08/01/21 06:37 PM
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Thank you for the reply. I must admit I too was impressed by your interest in Maltz. A lot of how I visualize how the mind works in relation to self-image is due to Maltz. I don't find his books all that controversial. It can be helpful if one is able to understand how, in a way, we create our own reality. So the mind can be a prison or a paradise. Any thoughts?
/r/seduction08/01/21 06:53 AM
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I have never seen the 95% of men statistic before, in your opinion does this apply to emotional maturity in general? Would have an estimate for women? I think most people recognize that reduction of fear is iterative in terms of exposure, but I also think that one must be self-aware to recognize and deal with the emotion or fear. Can you comment on how you feel phobias, in your personal experience, relate to emotional maturity?
/r/seduction08/01/21 06:45 AM
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Perhaps the better book to read by Maltz is "The Magic Power of Self-Image Psychology". Self-image, as a precursor to self-awareness, is a part of accepting yourself by recognizing and understanding your own emotions. Becoming self-aware includes self-confidence. Its not who we think we are, its about discovering and accepting our authentic self. Once you realize you can only truly judge yourself, there is no need to compare yourself to others, and this includes women. So the concept of 10/10 no…
/r/seduction08/01/21 05:29 AM
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I think where we differ is in the definition of "reading women". When I use the term I mean reading emotions in women based on verbal and nonverbal communication, which includes body language. As for the rest of what you said, I guess I am confused. How do you "make them happen" without understanding the emotions that drive body language? Do you feel and recognize emotions within yourself?
/r/seduction08/01/21 12:53 AM
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In response to this: "You do the same as guy trying to convince a girl she should be with you. I think they're trying to gage who you are as a person and to see how much control they have. Girls can easily say anything to a guy and he'll do whatever she says." You do not have to prove your worth to anybody. Woman can test me how every they want, I decide how to respond if at all, this includes requests. Women "shit test" to test character (emotional maturity). Many times tests are instinctual in…
/r/seduction07/01/21 07:01 AM
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I find it very strange that you categorize women in this way. I have found women's initial attraction to men is largely instinctual and very diverse. I do not see any of the correlation you mention. In reference to the link. I find it absurd that you would reject woman who are attracted to you in favor of cold approach. This is makes no sense to me.
/r/seduction07/01/21 06:32 AM
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Does this actually work for you? It is not seduction as I know it.
/r/seduction07/01/21 04:30 AM
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I think the majority of your post is, in one way or another, is related to becoming emotionally mature (having emotional intelligence). I will discuss a few items: Irrational fears are overcome when someone is self-aware. That is, being able to recognize and understand your emotions as they occur and evolve. View emotions as appropriate or inappropriate. For example, the fear of rejection is inappropriate in relation to dating. As you stated there is no threat of physical harm. I think in practi…
/r/seduction06/01/21 09:14 PM
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How did you learn to read women? I developed my empathy skills growing up overcompensating for learning disabilities and dyslexia. So when I became self-aware emotional maturity came quickly thereafter. What I can say is my empathy skills allow me to flirt at a distance and understand what a woman is feeling nonverbally in conversation. To me seduction is an advanced skill based on several key areas; empathy, conversation, and escalation. In general it is more difficult for men to acquire empath…
/r/seduction05/01/21 09:40 AM
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I would agree with your view in general. There may be extenuating circumstances based on who the man is and his approach to women. For example, because of the way I approach women I need an emotional connection before I really escalate, and it doesn't matter if she is shy or aggressive or aroused. This is just how my empathy skills have developed in being able to read desire in women. Without an emotional connection I am lost. I escalate based on who she is and her needs and it is interactive, I…
/r/seduction05/01/21 05:42 AM
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Perhaps you could describe why EQ (my reference is basically the book by Daniel Goleman) is important to you and how it fits in with your approach to women and dating. I do have a question about this statement: "Because, all said and done, once guys start picking up some skills, it's not that difficult to get laid." Are there any prerequisites to learning these "skills"? For example, should your pupil be psychologically healthy, emotionally mature, have high IQ, or possess specialized communicat…
/r/seduction05/01/21 04:22 AM
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Most impressive. Let's say he is 50 and started banging when he was 20. So 30 years or 360 months, banging 1800 is 5 new women per month consistently every month for 30 years. So he is decisive and confident and likes to exaggerate.
/r/seduction03/01/21 08:16 PM
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Thank you for the detailed reply. My intent was to compare our approaches not diminish your comment. So don't take offense. But, I think the exchange is worthwhile. For me specifically, I like Robert Greene's book because it is rather complete in describing the different seduction characters, and also how seduction can be used for good or ill. Beyond that the book is better at history than seduction techniques. However, I feel you can't really teach advanced seduction techniques with the written…
/r/seduction03/01/21 07:00 AM
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The classic's, and the hits just keep on rollin'. It's a repeating pattern for confirmed bachelors, "Are you gay", and "he has other problems", with the classic retort, "Who hurt you", with predictable regularity. However, this cognitive behavior in women seemingly dissolves when they find a bachelor attractive, whereby being driven by instinct and initial attraction, they reveal and identify with their true situational needs. I find it all very interesting and entertaining.
/r/MGTOW202/01/21 09:30 PM
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Well 70s music is known for Disco. The couple dance to learn is the Hustle. Not the line dance the couple dance, look it up. There are two basic styles, but it is really fun with the Disco beat.
/r/seduction01/01/21 06:51 AM
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Shit tests are banter and insults are disrespect. I will comment on shit tests, or just tests of character (fortitude, intelligence, etc.). So what do I say when she says X? Scripting (preparing before hand) can be valuable if you are not skilled at conversation. However, scripting is not a long term strategy. Why? What you do in conversation with an interested woman depends on who she is (personality, needs) and what you want (sex, relationship, friendship, advice, etc.). There is a reason she …
/r/seduction31/12/20 09:11 PM
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From a conversation standpoint, do you talk to men and women the same way?
/r/seduction30/12/20 09:38 PM
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I think are negotiating styles are different. Correct me if I am wrong, but I would say I am trying to understand how to motivate an interested woman by understanding her needs, and you are only interested in yourself. Is that correct?
/r/seduction29/12/20 05:44 AM
1

Disclosure: I am a man. When meeting a woman for the first time, like at a coffee shop for example, I sit at a non-threatening off angle, not directly across and not side by side, and I try not to have a table between us. I push the small tables away a bit so there is nothing directly between us, but I can still use to put my cup on if I want to. I don't know how I know the best angle, but I will move my chair till it feels right for me, meaning I can sense she is at ease. I sit close enough so …
/r/seduction29/12/20 04:28 AM
2

I thought I would suggest a parallel to your PUA interpretation and translate into the Interpersonal Communication / Conversation world. In flirting / conversation we have techniques (verbal and nonverbal) and strategy (guiding the conversation where you want it to go), in PUA shorthand = Game. In conversation we have psychological health and emotional maturity (ex; emotional intelligence, self-aware, confidence, etc.), in PUA shorthand = Strong Frame. Given the above, let me suggest an interpre…
/r/seduction28/12/20 11:08 PM
1

Well I agree with you about negging as a poor approach. If you are currently dating would you be willing to answer some question that I might have in regards to conversation?
/r/seduction28/12/20 09:09 PM
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If you are currently dating, I could give you some tips to try in regards to conversation that you may find useful. Just PM or CHAT me if you are interested.
/r/seduction28/12/20 08:34 PM
1

Does teasing and leading work for you? At what point to you uncover her needs?
/r/seduction28/12/20 01:40 AM
3

In my opinion, a lot of what you are advocating can be generally described as conversation skills (interpersonal communications) with technique focused on audience (women). However, there is an element which is often described as "Game" which I call "Strategy". I call it Strategy because, before attempting it, you must be already skilled at conversation with women both verbal and nonverbal. To learn and be successful at advanced techniques you have to have a basic foundation to build upon. This …
/r/seduction27/12/20 10:07 PM
1

By saying "signing into the servitude with the State" do you mean marriage? At your age, I would think that socially implied behavior would no longer be a factor in you living your life. In other words, you would be unaffected by expectations to conform. Why do you still feel compelled to even acknowledge these falsehoods?
/r/MGTOW227/12/20 07:03 AM
1

For initial attraction from women, in your opinion, what is the most important aspect of body language for a man?
/r/seduction27/12/20 04:23 AM
1

Do you think Alpha males dance?
/r/seduction27/12/20 04:10 AM
2

As a bachelor have you been in any long-term relationships? Can you be more specific about "the incessant pressure from the society to conform". How does this pressure manifest itself? How is it incessant?
/r/MGTOW227/12/20 12:09 AM
1

Do you find value in having effective conversation skills?
/r/TheRedPill26/12/20 11:51 PM
1

Thank you for summarizing the book. I have never read it, but it sounds interesting. I understand reading the IOIs, and preening signals (involuntary indicators), but did the book talk about the man flirting back? I am able to understand the signals and send signals back, and have like a flirting conversation with the woman. This can be used to gauge the level of her initial attraction. This is important if several women are flirting with you simultaneously. I generally talk to the woman who sho…
/r/seduction26/12/20 11:31 PM
1

I am assuming you have read the book. If so, is there any mention of flirting at a distance in a two way conversation using body language alone, or are the signals sent in only one direction?
/r/seduction26/12/20 07:18 PM
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How old are you?
/r/seduction26/12/20 09:13 AM
0

So I agree with this: "Forming connections with others is only possible through honest communication". But not with this: "People rarely fully communicate their honest selves, instead hiding their true thoughts, beliefs and intentions out of fear of making themselves vulnerable". This type of behavior is due to unaddressed trauma or being emotionally immature. For emotionally mature adults you cannot hide your true self while making an emotional connection. I think you can assertively ask for he…
/r/seduction26/12/20 03:16 AM
2

Can you explain how stoicism is an extension or and outcome of "attraction isn't a choice". How does one put it into practice in dating?
/r/seduction25/12/20 04:10 AM
1

Do you feel your dating goals as a husband are different from a bachelor?
/r/seduction24/12/20 09:47 AM
1

Well, I am an eligible bachelor and I can give you some input from my point of view if you are interested.
/r/seduction24/12/20 09:25 AM
1

Do you think some of the items in your list would change if you were a eligible bachelor instead of a husband?
/r/seduction24/12/20 09:20 AM
1

Are you actively dating at this time?
/r/seduction24/12/20 08:59 AM
4

There are many ways to respond. Due to the belligerent nature of the question, you can answer anyway you feel is the most effective given the environment. You can answer with a question: "Are you implying that I'm vindictive?" "Can you be more specific?" "Why do you ask?" You can answer assertively: I feel that question is intended to be an insult and extremely disrespectful. You can reframe the question: Your question is interesting but is not relevant. You can rePlace the question: I have ofte…
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 03:23 AM
1

Are you saying, from a practical standpoint, if people, as a matter of course, fail to attribute correctly in what they believe is true, then what they say can't be trusted as the primary driver of their own behavior. If so, how can I learn from other people's mistakes if skewed per FAE? I am interested in the driver, even, as you point out, solely based on personality, behind peoples needs in dating and relationships. I am a straight male, so my experience in communication is different in some …
/r/MGTOW223/12/20 09:28 PM
2

Let's, for the moment, restrict our conversation to the needs in men in terms of marriage. What I have found is there are two basic reasons men seek women for marriage. The first is sex drive for pleasure or satisfaction, perhaps linked to reproduction if they want kids, and another element that is a form of validation, usually based on how the men were raised and exposure to expected behaviors specific to social upbringing. If you ask married men why they got married, they will give reasons tha…
/r/MGTOW223/12/20 11:46 AM
1

I am still not sure what you are saying motivates the need to "pair bond" as you put it. Is it the drive to reproduce?
/r/MGTOW223/12/20 10:44 AM
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Can you describe the internal need? and what motivates it?
/r/MGTOW223/12/20 03:46 AM
2

I have read it, in general, it is well written and entertaining. Do you have any specific questions on seduction? Are you male of female?
/r/seduction22/12/20 10:46 PM
15

A few comments: In reference to " Always treat women and yourself with respect " I think you mean, in terms of the reference to women, threat them with courtesy (good manners). Respect is earned, don't give it freely to anyone. I would really like to hear some of the Bad Boy advice you where given. Perhaps you could give an example? Question: Does having sex validate you as a man?
/r/seduction22/12/20 11:14 AM
2

So why are you intimidated by women's beauty when you are 33 years old? From your description in the post I would say you are emotionally immature, perhaps being delayed through unaddressed psychological disorders. Emotionally mature adults do not feel compelled to compare themselves to others, men or women. They see and accept themselves as unique, such that, any comparison is pointless.
/r/seduction22/12/20 10:47 AM
1

I know you don't care, but I don't believe a word of it. Sorry. This is the thing, if women are intimidated by you, you are the problem. Women can be intimidated by an attractive guy when you first meet, I think this is natural to a certain extent in initial attraction, but in conversation if you can not make an emotional connection and put her at ease that's your fault. Relationships are two way, yet somehow, you cannot admit to any flaws or any reason that you may be a part of the problem, why…
/r/seduction22/12/20 10:40 AM
1

Not sure what you mean by "born with". There is no social skill gene as far as I know. Social skills are learned skills and only possible after you are emotionally mature. Charm is a personality trait that requires emotional maturity. Maturity is a learned process. You are not born mature. The only possible gift you may get when you are young is knowledgeable parents who understand how to nurture and help their children grow in a healthy way, both psychologically and personality wise. What is im…
/r/seduction22/12/20 10:19 AM
1

Are you interested in discussing what you have learned and applied by reading these books? If so, let me know and we can discuss through PM or CHAT. Thanks. P.S. I own and have read the MATE book, as well as many others.
/r/seduction22/12/20 10:02 AM
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So if you take a closer look at how the authors present their findings what we find is they are making broad generalizations, or trying to identify a trend in behavior, which is fine. View it as a basic starting point. However, you can see the difficulty when trying to apply the concepts in real-life in relation to an individual woman. For example, all women don't have the same wants (needs), women are individuals each one is different and unique. Another challenge in understanding the material …
/r/seduction21/12/20 07:12 PM
3

In reference to this statement: “Wearing nice clothes that fit well on a good body is one of the most potent ways to attract women.” Is just another way to say as a man you should peacock to attract women. Which I find is true. The challenge is in polishing your look. So fit means tailored, okay next. Good body mean your fit. What is "nice"? This is the challenge. The most effective presentation is one that is congruent with who you are. That is, how you look is an extension of who you are as a …
/r/seduction21/12/20 06:35 PM
1

How old are you?
/r/seduction21/12/20 03:49 AM
2

So it come down to how we define natural: a person regarded as having an innate gift or talent for a particular task or activity. Bad boys and Good men are not born with the gift of talking to women. Nor do they necessarily have the ability to learn faster than any other man. What makes these men effective, in your way of thinking, is they have focused on learning how to talk to women. My point is, any man can learn to talk to women just as effectively as Bad Boys or Good Men. All that is needed…
/r/seduction21/12/20 03:46 AM
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If there are underlying disorders that inhibits the OPs ability to become Self-Aware, which I think we both have our doubts about, I don't think any amount of trail and error will directly address his immediate needs. Experience is good, but only if you can learn from it. I think where we differ is I feel the OP should sort out his roadblocks before engaging in an activity in which he will not understand what is happening, and you would have him try to learn through trial and error. Is this your…
/r/seduction21/12/20 03:36 AM
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I would like to comment on the following: "Both bad boys and good men are self-assured, fun, non-judgmental and natural communicators when it comes to women." There is no such thing as natural communicators when it comes to women. As a bad boy or good men or what ever men, you have to know how to talk to women. This is a learned skill, and the techniques you use are anything but natural. For example (some harsh reality): 1) Limit disclosure for important relationship topics. Never expose yoursel…
/r/seduction21/12/20 02:26 AM
2

Self-Awareness includes three elements: Emotional Awareness, Accurate Self-Assessment and Self-Confidence. Emotional awareness is an ability to recognize your own emotions, and their effects. People who have this ability will: • Know what emotions they are feeling at any given time, and why; • Understand the links between their emotions and their thoughts and actions, including what they say; • Understand how their feelings will therefore affect their performance; and • Be guided in how they fee…
/r/seduction21/12/20 01:27 AM
1

Confidence in conversation is not like learning a physical activity like kicking a ball. With interpersonal communication repetitive drill is only effective if the person has the ability to learn. For example: to learn assertive communication techniques one needs to be psychologically healthy and emotionally mature (at least self-aware as a starting point). I am also assuming the person has a high enough IQ to retain what they learn. Also, specifying a single learning technique is unwise because…
/r/seduction20/12/20 07:51 PM
1

I would really love to take a salsa dance class in Sydney, mate. Unfortunately, I live in SoCal. It must be nice and warm in Sydney.
/r/seduction19/12/20 06:52 AM
2

Where do you live that you can do Salsa lessons? or are they private?
/r/seduction19/12/20 03:50 AM
3

Hi, I am not bisexual. Conversation is, in general, a skill that is not tied to topic. So, in talking to women I would be using mainly empathetic techniques. When talking to men I would use assertive and fact based techniques.
/r/seduction19/12/20 12:08 AM
3

If you can polish your presentation to reflect who you are as a person in how you project yourself people will notice. Why? So very few people actually focus on their best presentation.
/r/seduction18/12/20 07:56 AM
5

Well by everyone, by process of elimination, you would be implying talking to men this way. One-on-one my techniques for conversation are specific to gender. I don't talk to men the same way I talk to women.
/r/seduction18/12/20 02:33 AM
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Women will remember how you made her feel not what you talked about. Instill strong positive emotions while making and emotional connection and she will remember you.
/r/seduction18/12/20 01:53 AM
1

I did not start the ranking the OP did, and then I was asked to give my list. But I would say it is definitely relevant to myself. If I am making an emotional connection with the women there is already sexual tension, much of it communicated nonverbally. It's not a heavy convo to ask what she does for fun.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/20 01:30 AM
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A few thoughts: Body Language: Women will notice how you walk and carry yourself. I am a dancer so I know how I walk. Dancers know expression through movement is a skill that is learned. What we tend to do is then extend this skill to how we normally walk. It is called poise. If you just watch how other people walk, you will quickly learn that how people move reveals a lot about who they are. Conversation, Empathy, Body Language: In forming an emotional connection with a woman you are combining …
/r/seduction17/12/20 08:04 PM
1

I tend to only approach women for two reasons, they show initial attraction to me through flirting, or I sense something in the woman I find interesting. In the latter many times I uncover something really unique about her that I find interesting and want to learn more about. There is the possibility that I could make a friend, but my motives are usually very selfish in the beginning. Basically, I do not limit the type of relationship I can have with a woman. I am very curious about what drives …
/r/seduction17/12/20 06:23 PM
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Thank you for that excellent description. The same applies to conversation, you should be non-threatening. Especially if you are talking to two women, you want to position yourself so they feel comfortable like off angle to both of them. In my younger days I would make it a practice to try and talk to two women at a time even though I knew nothing would come of it. The reason is you can play one against the other and see if they start to compete for your attention. It is especially interesting i…
/r/TheRedPill17/12/20 09:06 AM
1

Some thoughts: To me the #1 Pillar of attraction, is only approach woman who show initial attraction to you through flirting. Women choose men for sex. You will never convince an uninterested woman into bed, and if you do, the sex will probably just as uninteresting. There are really two levels of attraction from women. The first is initial attraction (before you approach) and the second is mate value proofs through conversation. Emotionally mature adults don't compare themselves to anyone to ju…
/r/seduction17/12/20 08:54 AM
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I think what you are telling me is to not let a woman vent her problems, to discover what she is feeling. Is this correct? In terms of being empathetic and helping her discover her feelings in her daily experience, is not how I would guide the conversation. She can't turn me into something unless I let her. However, I have been a shoulder to cry on at times, due to necessity, meaning she is stressed out and needs to vent or the evening is going nowhere. This at times can kill sexual tension but …
/r/TheRedPill17/12/20 08:00 AM
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I was hoping the OP would ask this question or at least respond to my comment in response to why I think negging is a poor #1 weapon. At least explain the use of the word weapon, as if I am going to war. Just tell me what battle I am fighting that I need this weapon. Who exactly is my enemy? First 7 techniques: 1) Flirting at a distance. 2) Reading body language. 3) How to approach (basically not head on or from the rear, she must see you). 4) Displaying mate value (looks, confidence, walk, gest…
/r/TheRedPill17/12/20 07:09 AM
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When I was younger I used to tease more. But I found it not as productive as identifying a need and then fulfilling it. In a basic way people like to talk about themselves, and in this respect I think women are no different. However, I tend to guide the conversation so we talk about one of her passions, what makes her happy, and in doing so she will once again identify her positive experiences with your interest. You will look attractive. Also, I find that when a woman talks passionately about h…
/r/TheRedPill17/12/20 03:50 AM
1

I don't disagree with your statements about the ill treatment of men. What I am asking is, in your opinion, how are men being conditioned to understand their role is to subjugate themselves? Who is teaching this lesson? Society? Dads? Moms? Who? Who told you as a man you need to suck it up? Is this how you were raised? I have never been coerced by unsubstantiated rhetoric. The saying "happy wife, happy life", never made any sense to me. I find, much of the boomer mentality to relationships to be…
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 03:35 AM
3

I am not a SIMP but I feel their influence, and in a way, I am paying a price. If men cater to women without due respect or subjugate themselves needlessly, it affects all men.
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 10:27 PM
1

Corey is attempting to teach a skill, without prequalifying his students. The skill is high-level communication and conversation with a specific audience which is women. The question one should ask is, if you want to teach effectively, what are the necessary prerequisites the students need to acquire these skills? You never hear Corey talk about what is needed to learn. This omission is interesting in that it is key to having successful students, yet ignored, why? The reason is the vast amount o…
/r/seduction16/12/20 10:22 PM
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There is a strategy behind the attitude. You do not have to be a bad boy to know the strategy. Strategy is based on understanding female instinctual behavior. For example she is not chasing to live up to his standards, she is chasing to fill a need. Usually a need to find strength (contentment) in a man's ability to understand and effectively cope with the demands of life. From a seduction standpoint you are being yourself. However, what you do in forming an emotional connection with a woman and…
/r/seduction16/12/20 07:29 PM
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Can you tell me exactly who or what in society taught you these things? and why you would consider them a basis of forming relationships, and possibly committing to marriage, without discussing with and acknowledging the validity of the source?
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 07:12 PM
1

Corey has some good general advice, but he is not skilled at seduction. I seriously doubt he could described accurately what emotional connection is and how is it formed, or to actually demonstrate how to do it in real-life. To be skilled at seduction what is important is to understand female instinctual behavior and not necessarily psychology, which I think as being more gender neutral. If a woman is attracted to you and you have forged the start of an emotional connection, I think what you do …
/r/seduction16/12/20 07:04 PM
3

I think perhaps the " View yourself as equal to everyone else." statement psychology wise is a little off. You should really say to not compare yourself to anyone else. You do not have to resolve if you are equal or not. The overriding objective is to dismiss the need to compare. The realization is that you are unique, comparison is meaningless. This is the mindset.
/r/seduction15/12/20 01:18 AM
1

I never really cold approach any woman without signs of initial attraction through flirting, with some minor exceptions. Obviously, this is only effective in real-life. My skill set is empathy and communicating nonverbally, and it allows me to judge her level of attraction, after which, if strong, I will approach and start a conversation. So, for me flirting is done at a distance. When I talk to a woman I consider it conversation. What is important if you are looking to date is to maximize your …
/r/seduction13/12/20 12:46 AM
1

If we continue my line of thought, based on your reply, the question that should be asked for women going forward is: Today, for women, is marriage alone, a viable goal? Remember men, by their behavior, establish what women can ultimately get in terms of relationships. What does it mean for a woman to say, without specifying the exact context, that they want to get married? To me it is meaningless. What they really mean is to meet a compatible mate, or a desire to have children. Marriage by itse…
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 08:58 AM
2

I think, men's desire to have children is key to understanding what options women have for marriage, and in relation to this majority of men, confirmed bachelors have very little overall impact. Confirmed bachelors have the maturity and means to get married but choose to remain single. I think you can be MGTOW and not aspire to be a confirmed bachelor. Which is fine and reasonable. What I am saying is women really just play in the sandbox men have created and are creating continually by their be…
/r/MGTOW210/12/20 05:45 AM
2

Everybody gets scared. Keep your head, be calm, make a play to your advantage, but don't run, life is too short.
/r/MGTOW207/12/20 08:01 AM
5

I think I would have stayed to find out more on the dynamics of how they hatched such a scheme and why. I am very interested in human nature and when something happens relationship wise out of the ordinary, I get very neutral (non-offensive) and start to ask questions that help me understand motivation. I tend to learn a lot this way, and I am usually amazed at what I find out. Even though I may not be into what they wanted, although you did not really find out, I would have been interested in h…
/r/MGTOW207/12/20 02:58 AM
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Yes he was eccentric. But he was MGTOW, a genius, famous and successful, and he knew how to treat a pigeon.
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 09:30 AM
33

One of my personal heros: Nikola Tesla.
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 09:08 AM
1

Can you give me an example of the seduction literature you are referencing?
/r/seduction02/12/20 04:54 AM
2

Can you tell me what he is needy for? and what makes his approach to women cringy? Thanks.
/r/seduction01/12/20 02:20 AM
1

It is probably as good as a book can be on seduction as a way to persuade and still be a book. What I mean is, seduction as a character is defined by people in real life. You can't capture someone's presence, influence and projection with the written word. There is a lot of what a seduction character might do in the book, but not how, in such a way to understand precisely how to put it into action, or what underlying skills are needed, like Emotional Intelligence, or understanding nonverbal comm…
/r/seduction01/12/20 02:08 AM
1

The statement is to meant to paradoxically confuse. In the context of dating, social or texting, I am under no obligation to make "sense". My approach is to provoke emotions ,not reason logically. As you have pointed out.
/r/seduction30/11/20 08:14 PM
1

"I know you better than you know yourself"
/r/seduction30/11/20 09:44 AM
1

Can you elaborate as to why being self-aware is important?
/r/seduction29/11/20 07:54 AM
18

It's only beautiful when you take your profit. Exit is just as important as entry. Plan and convert.
/r/MGTOW227/11/20 09:08 AM
1

Hi, he would be Gen X? To be honest, I really don't know what he means. I would need more context. Perhaps he should have said you can't be a real man unless you get married and have kids. Which to me would make more sense for Gen X to say.
/r/MGTOW227/11/20 02:53 AM
1

Hi, can I ask the coworker's sex and age that said this to you? If I knew, I could better comment.
/r/MGTOW227/11/20 12:05 AM
1

Would you mind if I PM you to talk about dating and relationships?
/r/askTRP28/10/20 06:54 PM
2

To you, what does it mean to be successful with women?
/r/askTRP22/10/20 08:46 PM
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If you let me know your age I can comment better. How old are you?
/r/seduction22/10/20 08:03 PM
7

"I'm not that easy"
/r/askTRP18/10/20 06:42 PM
1

Thank you for the detailed description. What you say makes a lot of sense. In summary, women can't openly acknowledge, and take accountability for, their own sexual needs. Sex just happens and is not talked about. I wonder where they learned this behavior? Is it taught or instinctual?
/r/askTRP14/10/20 07:15 PM
1

I think you and I have discovered we have similar goals but with different personalities, and as such, a different approach to the same test. The older I get and polish my presentation, I find the main reason I get approached is the woman is attracted to me. So, I am not really treated with much disrespect anymore. She can still test me out of instinct, but I know how to address it. I do have a tendency to try and provoke an emotional response out of women and keep them off balance. How this mig…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/20 06:55 PM
1

The disrespect is pointed out calmly and clearly, sometimes this is an instinctual test and at other times intentional. I like keeping women emotionally unbalanced by setting boundaries of proper behavior. She is clearly getting a request to correct behavior which is inappropriate but still accepted by many men. I call this Emotional Dominance. One example that I like, is when a woman (stranger) at a bar asks you to buy her a drink. I would say something like: "Did you know asking a stranger to …
/r/TheRedPill14/10/20 05:58 PM
1

If we follow your line of thinking, women are driven by their own self-image in feeling like a slut. There is a fear of feeling used. My point is in having a woman over for a "visit" to do something innocuous must at some point seem like a pretence in escalating to sex. Or are you saying they need to and want to believe that whatever happens is arbitrary?
/r/askTRP14/10/20 05:52 AM
1

The context is one-on-one conversation between a man and a woman in a non-work setting. My approach is to set boundaries of proper behavior for the woman, to me this is necessary for a good foundation in a relationship. It starts from the first moment I start talking to her. My question is, why would I want a relationship or even sex with a woman who is disrespectful? There are just too many other women who would not show disrespect. I hold people responsible for their actions, as I am responsib…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/20 07:49 PM
1

How is it the women do not get emotionally attached to you? If you are indeed good at pleasing a woman in her own specific way, how is it you are not seen as special in her life?
/r/TheRedPill12/10/20 08:15 PM
3

A few thoughts from a Bachelor: I think you dispelled your own title, in that, stating High Value Women. High value how? Looks perhaps. Anything else; Caring? Non-manipulative? Compassionate? Honest? Accountability? Intelligent? Let's work our way back from your outcomes and think like a woman. Caution, this might get nasty. Step 1: If you were to really use the tactics of women against them you would have spent more time finding out who she is as a person. Her weaknesses, her insecurities, her …
/r/TheRedPill12/10/20 07:07 PM
1

Context is really important here. I have worked in male dominated workplaces where the women act tough to get respect. So at work I have been told to F**K off, F**K you, etc. sometimes deserved and other times not, usually in a group setting. However, get these same women alone, and they can be very sweet and nice once you ask them to turn off their false bravado. Even so, I never get involved with women from work.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/20 05:39 PM
5

Are you saying you would accept a direct insult?
/r/TheRedPill12/10/20 06:52 AM
7

I would have to say for myself if I was called an Asshole by a women in conversation, I would have to point out her disrespect, and that I won't tolerate that behavior, and I would ask for an apology, and if I did not receive it, conversation over. I do not tolerate disrespect from anyone, man or woman. There is a difference between tests and disrespect. Tests can be in the form of a request or demand without disrespect, and at many times instinctual. Disrespect is not instinctual, the women kno…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/20 10:04 PM
1

My limit is 9% no matter what I do with a controlled workout schedule and diet. I think it is a genetic limit perhaps. I am at 13% currently. I am about to cut through aerobics/resistance not sure how far I can push as I get older.
/r/seduction06/10/20 09:28 PM
1

Hi I am similar age but 6'1 I am now at 193lbs with a muscular dancer body. My target weight is 186lbs if I push my body fat ratio to 9%. Do you know what your body fat ratio is?
/r/seduction06/10/20 07:00 PM
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I too will give plausible reasons to hang out. But, I think for the majority of women the fear is one of social safety and not personal accountability. That is, the fear is in being judged unfairly from their peer group, rather than themselves. How probable is information making it back to their peer group, well it depends on a lot of factors. I have found that if I make sure to tell the woman that what happens between us is kept in the strictest confidence, that the fear of being judged is grea…
/r/askTRP05/10/20 10:34 PM
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As per your statement: "Women need an excuse to fuck you without feeling like a whore." Do you know why?
/r/askTRP03/10/20 01:50 AM
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Would you mind if I PM you with further questions? I have some experience that you may find interesting.
/r/seduction30/09/20 07:50 PM
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Thank you for the detailed description. I am not really looking to get married, just trying to understand how to vet potential partners.
/r/seduction30/09/20 07:10 PM
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What questions would you ask the woman to find out she has no accountability?
/r/seduction30/09/20 06:22 AM
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How exactly does society push you into getting married?
/r/seduction30/09/20 06:18 AM
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Disclosure: I am male. I only approach women who show initial attraction towards me through flirting (signalling interest at a distance). I can flirt, so I flirt back to understand the level of interest. Until I have a conversation with a women I really don't know what she may want or what I may want. Maybe you could give some insight as to what signals are romantic versus sexual. Thanks.
/r/seduction29/09/20 05:25 PM
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Since you have seduced dozens of women, perhaps you could describe how seduction works. How do you seduce a woman?
/r/seduction29/09/20 05:06 PM
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What age group of women do you date? Do you date any women in their 40s?
/r/askTRP28/09/20 10:16 PM
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Can you explain what is the red flag for BPD. What behaviors are you looking for? Can you be more detailed on the tests? Thanks for your help, I just don't really understand how to spot BPD through actions or conversation.
/r/askTRP26/09/20 07:52 AM
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For BPD, do you mean Borderline Personality Disorder?
/r/askTRP26/09/20 12:23 AM
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I know your approach but without ever being married. The logistics for me are the challenge I am just to busy with career and business. How do you find the time?
/r/askTRP24/09/20 08:44 PM
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I am worried about the rocky relationships part of your response. Do you know why they were rocky? If he is emotionally mature, and you ask how his past relationships ended, he will take equal blame or responsibility. But, you are asking for commitment. Perhaps you should try and uncover some red flags as to past trauma. If he is mature he may opt out of exclusivity or LTR because of his lifestyle.
/r/seduction24/09/20 03:01 AM
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39 years old, never married, " he doesn't know what he wants out of life yet." He has no purpose in life at 39? He is emotionally immature. I really doubt he would commit to being exclusive or LTR if you make your intentions clear.
/r/seduction24/09/20 02:46 AM
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Only compliment a woman based on something she had to personally put effort into to make happen. For example, her clothes, she put effort in selecting what to wear. Perhaps her eyeshadow color in how it looks good with her eyes, she put effort in selecting the color. If she says something really relevant and intelligent to a conversation topic, tell her that is a really good point, or say she seems to have a real grasp of the subject. Don't say she is smart, she already knows this, and so do you…
/r/seduction22/09/20 11:42 PM
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The classic question is: How did you last relationship end? What you are looking for is the woman to admit that there was fault on both sides. If she just blames her ex for the relationship ending this is a red flag. Emotionally Mature people recognize that a healthy relationship requires understanding and commitment from both sides, and when it ends there is usually enough blame to go around.
/r/askTRP21/09/20 08:17 AM
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I see it a different way. Attraction in women is based on instinct (involuntary) which drives how they feel (emotions). Instincts shift with age. The process has not changed only the priorities. Roughly described as the dual mating strategy. However, the dynamics in actual relationships means that the generalities are of limited use in actual practice. Most women with high SMV can get whatever they want, whenever they want from men. They don't need emotional support, they can get their wants sat…
/r/seduction20/09/20 08:24 PM
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Did you have any LTRs? and if so, how did you avoid marriage? Did you ever cohabitate in a relationship? I have said this many times on reddit. The only real power a man has in a relationship is the sincere threat to walk away. When I was 11 I was just trying to learn how to ride a 10-speed bike. My eyes and ears where open, but more for vehicular traffic.
/r/MGTOW219/09/20 07:41 PM
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Thank you so much for all of your answers. So I am a man. I remember when a girl kissed me first. I knew through escalation that a kiss was coming, and I held off with an irresistible cute smirk and she grabbed me and gave me a passionate kiss. It was really intense. Wow! After the first kiss it got steamy really quick. Both of us were aggressive, but in the end, it was win/win.
/r/seduction19/09/20 03:35 AM
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When you find a man attractive is it just instinctual or is there a thought process that happens? When you are connecting with the man through conversation do you ever touch him first? Have you ever taken the first move in kissing the man? If the above is too personal, I understand if you are reluctant to answer. Thanks.
/r/seduction19/09/20 01:54 AM
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Thank you for the reply. Sorry for all of the questions but you are rather unique. Do you ever single out a man in a group of men and approach?
/r/seduction18/09/20 05:54 AM
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Thank you for the detailed explanation. I will make sure I pay more attention to the dynamics as to validation.
/r/askTRP18/09/20 05:51 AM
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When you approach a guy do you open with a compliment. Like I like your eyes, or something like that? I just wanted you to know that I never reject any woman that approaches me. I always stop what I am doing and go and talk. When she comes over I give you a cute smile and I am very welcoming.
/r/seduction18/09/20 02:06 AM
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Obviously I don't really know exactly what drives a woman, mainly because I am a man, but I would like to explore you statement more. To me female sex drive is based on the level of attraction towards the male, and I think it is largely involuntary. But if we look at your statement, how would a woman know you have to have her or that you would choose her over all others, and if she did then her attraction would be voluntary. How would this work? Any thoughts?
/r/askTRP18/09/20 02:03 AM
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How long did it take you to lose 70lbs. Have you reached your target weight? and if so do you know your body fat ratio? Thanks.
/r/askTRP18/09/20 12:30 AM
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Submitted for your approval. A new dimension of sign and sound. Turning from argyle to agile, heel to hump, get on the stump, bro says pump and dump. Jump and don't be a chump, looking to bump some lady rump. Thank you for your attention.
/r/askTRP18/09/20 12:28 AM
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How many men actually flirt back and have a sort of mini nonverbal flirting conversation at a distance? If so how long do they last until one of you approaches? Thanks.
/r/seduction17/09/20 11:37 PM
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I am very impressed by your bravery. So well done. You must be very emotionally mature. Do you know how to flirt (signal initial attraction at a distance)? I am a man and I can flirt. When women approach me it is because they are attracted to me, but also know I am attracted to them through flirting, so essentially they know that if they approach me first that they will not get rejected. We have invited each to approach. I only approach women who show initial attraction in me through flirting. I…
/r/seduction17/09/20 08:19 PM
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They are in fear of themselves, are emotionally immature, and need a woman to fill a void within their own psyche to complete themselves.
/r/seduction17/09/20 12:49 PM
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Simplicity is a friend of perfection.
/r/seduction16/09/20 07:56 PM
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#4 is why cold approach is inefficient. Ony approach women who show initial attraction to you through flirting (nonverbal communication at a distance before conversation). Flirt back and if she reciprocates approach and introduce yourself. Initial attraction is needed to make an emotional connection (nonverbal) that leads to trust and then to intimacy. Notice I did not say anything about her looks, to me connection is more important than looks for intimacy. Just go over and talk don't waste your…
/r/seduction16/09/20 07:40 PM
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Just a new way to manipulate men. Men are probably largely responsible for the creation of the platform. Perhaps men are the architects of their own subjugation to women. Ironic, but true to form.
/r/askTRP15/09/20 10:18 PM
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If a woman insults me, I assertively request that she change her behavior and apologize, or I'm gone. If she offers a genuine apology. I reinforce the fact that offering insults or tests is a sign of disrespect, and I don't tolerate disrespect from a woman, and if she does it again I'm gone. The only leverage a man has in any relationship is the genuine threat of leaving. This is the only thing women will respect. Anything else is a waist of your time.
/r/askTRP15/09/20 10:10 PM
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Time for new friends.
/r/askTRP15/09/20 09:58 PM
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Not sure how to sugar coat my comment. Basically it's over. How its over is up to you. I would leave the relationship but without any commitment on either side. Have her understand that it is okay to see other men (it would happen anyway). You will have to figure out where you stand and what you want to do when you get back. But leave it open and amicable.
/r/askTRP15/09/20 09:55 PM
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Do you have to deal with her ex?
/r/askTRP15/09/20 09:48 PM
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You will have to determine a way to understand if this past trauma has not been reconciled. Usually, if someone periodically brings up the same topic of past abuse, they have not personally addressed it. Meaning therapy of some sort would be needed. That was just a long winded way of saying it is a red flag.
/r/askTRP15/09/20 09:46 PM
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Thanks I will check out Ronin man.
/r/askTRP15/09/20 12:06 AM
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Are you saying women select men for sex? If so, do you know how?
/r/askTRP14/09/20 11:02 PM
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Hi thanks for the reply. I understand your approach very well. I wanted to ask if you ever get emotionally attached to the quick lay? It just stopped being fulfilling to me. Please let me know. I see a little of myself in you.
/r/askTRP14/09/20 10:51 PM
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Only if I squint.
/r/askTRP14/09/20 09:46 PM
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She is manipulating you by way of threatening to leave. Time to end the relationship.
/r/askTRP14/09/20 09:39 PM
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When I am making an emotional connection (nonverbal) with a woman in conversation, I always wait for her to touch me first. I use her escalation to judge what I should do next. This has worked well for me.
/r/askTRP14/09/20 09:34 PM
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I don't discuss my other relationships, I respect women's privacy, I never kiss and tell. Analysis: Women need three levels of safety; Physical, Social, and Emotional. The important one here is social. Women share everything in relationships with their peer group, and I mean everything. Do not volunteer any information about a specific woman. It will eventually make it back to her and usually with bad consequences, and by extension damage the man's reputation. Don't volunteer any information.
/r/askTRP14/09/20 09:27 PM
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I agree with your post. You should have included married women hiding the fact. But what is key is the item about being Chad. I don't think Chad is the best description of someone who can escalate based on a woman who is not at a disadvantage. That someone is man who can seduce a women. The sequence basically is; making an emotional connection (nonverbal), establishing trust, touch, intimacy. But is this quick lay really worth the rush? For a high value male like myself I would say no. What do y…
/r/askTRP14/09/20 09:15 PM
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When you play with hearts you may break your own.
/r/askTRP14/09/20 08:42 PM
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I think you should really get to know her and her needs before jumping to conclusions about a LTR. The cause and effect with trends, as to general assessments of behavior, red flag, green flag, checkered flag (I made that up) many times is too simplistic or just wrong. You will have to vet her in person as if you knew nothing about her. Make your own judgement.
/r/askTRP14/09/20 08:33 PM
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I thought unicorns poop rainbows? But I think I would like the skittles variety, even better peanut M&Ms poop, can I get one of those?
/r/askTRP14/09/20 09:01 AM
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I know many times women are not completely open until they can let go of their fears and inhibitions. Its like they need an emotional release (sex) in order to get comfortable with their own sexual desires and fantasies. What you have described is that women have a hard time verbalizing their sexual needs and fantasies. You basically allow them some emotional space to reflect on their own desires. You give them space enough to open up when comfortable. Does my description make any sense to you?
/r/askTRP14/09/20 06:30 AM
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What do you say and when do you say it? What is the response?
/r/askTRP14/09/20 01:54 AM
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First I will offer a definition: Empathy is an awareness of the needs and feelings of others both individually and in groups, and being able to see things from the point of view of others. It helps us to develop a stronger understanding of other people’s situations and feelings. I have natural empathy and it allows me to read people both men and women. It makes me a better active listener, more importantly, a better empathetic listener. Empathy is seen by many men as feminine, but only because m…
/r/askTRP14/09/20 12:43 AM
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Assertiveness is a conversational technique to express your ideas and stand up for yourself. A good book to read is: The Assertiveness Workbook by Randy J. Paterson, Ph.D. This book will help you understand how to communicate assertively with a foundation based on being self-aware. I am not associated with Randy in any way, but I have had discussion with him about the effectiveness of his book for young learners. I really like the book as a starting point. You will find that communication techni…
/r/askTRP14/09/20 12:02 AM
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Iron Rule of Tomassi #5: Never allow a woman to be in control of the birth. Two options: Vasectomy and condom. Always have protection.
/r/askTRP13/09/20 11:53 PM
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How are you a strong conversationalist? Can you share any techniques? Do you know what an emotion connection is? and if so, can you describe why it may be important? What makes you confident at 25?
/r/askTRP13/09/20 07:43 PM
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Thank you for the link. Frame in the context of intimate relationships in conversation, in relation to the male role, can be viewed as purpose as to understanding what makes and maintains a healthy relationship. Your specific example is a test. So how to respond? It will depend on how the man views the statement in importance to maintaining a healthy relationship. What he feels is the best course of action. There are several options, here are the basic 4: 1) Respond - Fully answer or satisfy the…
/r/seduction13/09/20 07:36 PM
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Prolonged eye contact is not eye-fucking anyone it is just a strong indication of attraction. The women should not send this signal unless she is attracted to the man. Do Alpha males, in the traditional sense, even know how to flirt at a distance? Do they even need to flirt? Can any Alpha out there tell me?
/r/seduction13/09/20 06:06 AM
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I helped a gorgeous 10 throw up for most of the night after she got drunk so she wouldn't die in her own vomit, I had to keep her hydrated and warm. I brought a home depot 5 gal bucket into the bedroom to make things easier. I lined with kitchen trash bags to help with the situation. It's hard to see any semblance of a pedestal after an experience like that. She was so weak I had to hold her head. I also helped her recover the next day. I have my own hot-toddy recipe which helped immensely. I go…
/r/seduction13/09/20 12:08 AM
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When in conversation with an interested woman there is no need to talk about sex. The reason she is talking to you is because you are a potential mate. Sex is always the unspoken topic. The conversation is to allow the couple to establish relative mate value in each other.
/r/seduction12/09/20 11:48 PM
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Disclosure: I am a man who can flirt (nonverbal communication to signal attraction). Check out the video below of a flirting nonverbal exchange from a woman's perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU9A242mrKA&t=3s So for men who can flirt we are able to judge the level of initial attraction from a woman before approaching. It's not about playing a game of cat or mouse, it is not about teasing, flirting is a way for a woman to display initial attraction to a man, and much of what she does …
/r/seduction12/09/20 11:43 PM
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I wish I had your emotional maturity at 18, my life would have been much more fulfilling. I don't know what brain differences exist in the genders specifically, but I do know how they manifest themselves in behavior. I have meet some women who are very good at critical thinking and can accept constructive criticism. But with MeToo will the men offer it? Especially in a business setting. Many young men are ill prepared for relationships and don't know how to deal effectively with manipulation whi…
/r/MGTOW210/09/20 07:05 PM
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I should have said, it is the most recent example. But yes I would say I value my first hand experience over anything else. It has served me well.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 06:42 PM
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I am not sure of your age, but I think you are 19? Disclosure: I am a man. I hope you won't be offended by my remarks. I am impressed by how you are introspective in understanding your own behavior, and can reason in light of what many would call ingrained emotional tendencies in women. You seem very emotionally mature. You are able to understand your emotions and reason as to cause, and deal with them in an effective manner. Many women do not have your level of emotional maturity. That's why yo…
/r/MGTOW210/09/20 07:22 AM
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Perhaps we could seduce each other? Have you ever had an emotional connection (nonverbal) with a man in conversation? Some describe this as chemistry, but what is actually happening is that both partners are projecting their wants and desires nonverbally onto the other. For me, if the woman is skilled at seduction, things can escalate rather quickly and are intensely playful. Do you flirt to show initial attraction to men? Let me first establish what I define as flirting. I describe flirting as …
/r/seduction10/09/20 06:55 AM
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No, I just confirmed this behavior with a woman who is 32. She even uses Alpha and Beta to describe the men that she has dated, and will go as far as call Beta a provider. My posts are based on what I have experienced in life and in talking with women and observing women's behavior. I only trust my first hand knowledge. So obviously, we disagree. I will say to your credit that you did not start your post with an insult, which was a step up from the previous comment.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 05:57 AM
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I think you learned that your approach is gender specific. Women will not openly describe their true nature by being asked direct questions due to peer group pressure to conform. You can for example get at the truth with a series of questions, but it will take some skill in knowing what to ask and in what order. Some women will openly admit to their behaviors as being abusive or unfair or a way to gain control over a partner. But these women are usually self-aware and know they have been a facto…
/r/MGTOW210/09/20 12:16 AM
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If you affiliate with MGTOW goodbye karma. Men and women will just berate you even though you are trying to help someone, or have a counter argument that is presented in a logical manner.
/r/MGTOW209/09/20 11:48 PM
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What gives women the power to control (manipulate) their men? Thanks.
/r/MGTOW209/09/20 07:34 PM
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I just got permanently banned on dating_advice for saying exactly the thing you just said, with reference to MGTOW. I even gave a reference: The way of the superior man, by David Deida. So the primary rule Deida states for tests is as follow: What she wants is not what she says. Meaning: Sometimes a woman will make a request of her man in plain english, not to get him to do something, but to see if he is so weak that he will do it. She is testing his capacity to do what he feels is right, and no…
/r/MGTOW209/09/20 07:29 PM
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Many pathetic men glory in their own subjugation.
/r/MGTOW209/09/20 07:14 PM
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Disclosure: I am a man, who can seduce. The ability to seduce is a very rare skill. Robert Greene talks about the different seductive characters (personalities) in his book, The Art Of Seduction. I am what is called The Charismatic. But it is hard to truly understand how seduction is projected onto another person by reading a description in writing, I think Robert understands this. A person who can seduce is not playing a PUA game, or concentrating on technique, they are being themselves. People…
/r/seduction09/09/20 07:00 PM
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No, you would ask, "How do you eat ass?"
/r/seduction09/09/20 06:16 PM
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Disclosure: I am male. So upon meeting, I would say "Hi, do you have time to talk?". Her: "Sure, Okay" Then ask: "do you have a topic you would like to talk about?". Her: "_____" Does the above sound creepy? Thanks.
/r/seduction09/09/20 06:14 PM
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I like getting coffee after work, and because I usually invite, I volunteer to pay up front. I want to allow us to get as close as possible if we make a meaningful connection. If everything goes well we have the whole evening to spend together. Even perhaps get a late dinner, but I usually suggest we go dutch.
/r/seduction09/09/20 08:06 AM
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I have read The Art of Seduction. Not sure what to ask. I can say that someone who has the ability to seduce can do so because it is who they are. It is not an act. Much of their power resides in the unshakable belief in themselves, and their ability to project themselves onto others. Their inner light is what attracts people to them. The challenge for Robert was his medium, the written word. It is very difficult if not impossible to fully describe the ability to seduce with words. Some of the t…
/r/seduction09/09/20 01:20 AM
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Disclosure: I am a man. I wanted to reply but it would be good to know if you are a man or a woman so I can tailor my remarks. Thanks.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 09:19 PM
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By unicorn do you mean desirable to women?
/r/MGTOW204/09/20 06:58 AM
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What's a woman's purpose in a man's life? In a healthy relationship, both man and woman bring independence (maturity, resources) and together create something that is greater than the sum of the parts. The answer is specific to individuals, men and women. Everyone is different, a healthy relationship is reciprocal. A man gains what he feels is important, and in equal measure so does the woman. It is this synergy that allows the couple to grow beyond what they themselves think is possible.
/r/MGTOW202/09/20 06:36 AM
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100% on the money.
/r/MGTOW202/09/20 04:43 AM
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My references are in relation to the OP. I'm not RP, more like MGTOW, if you must apply a label. I really don't have a problem with women or relationships. But I stand by what I wrote in regards to female behavior. I don't put women on a pedestal, they control access to sex, and by extension control over men. I did not say anything about scarcity in my remarks. I find Briffault's Law to be the basis of mate selection in women. For a modern reference lookup Geoffrey Miller, The Mating Mind. Witho…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 01:02 AM
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Disclosure: I am a man. Red Pill is the acceptance of gynocentrism in western society. It does not teach a man how to manipulate women for sex. If a woman does not like a man, there is nothing he can say to get her to sleep with him. The idea of manipulating an uninterested women into sex, in my experience, is complete PUA BS. Women select men for sex. If the OP is very attractive he then has an opportunity for sex. However, as the OP has described, it is the women who are using him, he is not m…
/r/ExRedPill01/09/20 07:17 PM
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Female nature is inherent learned behaviors that are exhibited without a conscious decision by the woman. The women behave in a certain fashion and don't know why. They don't think they just do. Which is effective in having control over men, who are ill equipped to understand how they are being controlled. How this plays out from a practical standpoint in forging relationships is a lengthy subject. From a very high level view I think the two motivators are Hypergamy and Dual Mating Strategy. I h…
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 11:53 PM
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I would say that some disorders like poor self-image can be corrected by one's self but could take some time. If the disorder is based on childhood trauma, I think therapy is most effective. I can only speak for myself, but in social settings I generally take time so people can see me and I can see them before approaching. I am looking for a reaction or impression where I can better understand their frame of mind. This will generally take time, something like 15 to 30 seconds upon seeing each ot…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/08/20 09:11 PM
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I like the post, but after working on my own Guided Conversational Framework for 6 months, I can say with certainty that a complete guide to conversation is a huge subject. You would have been better served by providing small specific topic subjects on seperate posts to make your points. I say this, obviously because of length, but also to have a targeted smaller comment list to gauge interest and understand your audience. My comments will reference the post and the comment content. 1) What I ha…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/08/20 07:04 PM
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Thank you for the detailed reply. I have read The Rational Male. However, I don't agree on the generalizations about women in a lot of ways. Also, Tomassi, in my opinion has not exhaustively tested what he states as fact. Let's look at these in respect to what you have written. I am a confirmed bachelor and have experience with women and relationships. I would consider myself handsome and able to seduce women. In regards to married women cheating in an otherwise healthy relationship, I see a maj…
/r/MGTOW227/08/20 06:05 PM
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So would you say you leverage her assets?
/r/MGTOW227/08/20 08:31 AM
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For me to have meaningful sex I need to form a deep emotional connection with the woman, and because it is a connection (two way) she has the same connection with me. I only date short term, sometimes even exclusively. I have no problem trusting myself. I think I understand women very well, and I understand myself even more. It is interesting that you end the relationship first. I find once the women are unable to change me, they usually end it, and usually in a very cowardly manner. I like your…
/r/MGTOW227/08/20 08:16 AM
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What do you mean by commits to a woman. Do you mean exclusivity, or marriage, or cohabitation? Is it true that women only want to have sex with a man who commits? if not, does this mean that women have no basis as a prerequisite to having sex? Because if this is the line of reasoning, then men would only get married to have children? and if men only want sex why would they ever get married? Does this fit in with your understanding of hypergamy?
/r/MGTOW227/08/20 08:02 AM
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What age group are you referencing for the woman who will only date for marriage or cohabitation? Is this all ages?
/r/MGTOW227/08/20 07:49 AM
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This has nothing to do with MGTOW, he is emotionally immature, and as such, is unprepared for relationships.
/r/MGTOW227/08/20 07:44 AM
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How long was your engagement? Did you not see any red flags? especially ones linked to mental illness? Family history perhaps?
/r/MGTOW227/08/20 07:32 AM
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An older reference for women's behavior is: The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar. The important realization is that, through society and women's teachings, that men subjugate themselves to the needs of women. Men are programmed so as to not see women as they really are, nothing more than a vagina, two breasts and some punch cards programmed with idle, stereotyped chatter. The book is from the 70's where the punch card reference is how computer code was kept on paper cards which would be fed into …
/r/MGTOW227/08/20 07:24 AM
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Out of the male population at 50 how many men do you think have their act together and is in the dating pool? 1 in 100?
/r/ExRedPill25/08/20 05:42 AM
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So for relationships what is valuable in a man? Your value is based on what women want in a mate. For a long term partner women are interested in emotional maturity. Although it is not usually expressed this way. For a man to be valuable to a woman, he must first value himself. So what is implied with an increase in age is completing the journey of emotional maturity as follows: Recognition of Self (Self-aware, Self-regulation, Motivation) and Recognition of Others (Empathy, Social Skills). Also…
/r/ExRedPill24/08/20 09:06 PM
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Can you be more specific as to what you mean by having their act together? For the women you describe, are they interested in only long term relationships, and are they looking for a provider? Are they open to short term relationships? Do you have a problem in dating single moms? Is it too much baggage? or are you a single dad? To get dates are you using online dating apps?
/r/ExRedPill24/08/20 08:30 PM
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I think both you and I are coming from a standpoint of an expected level of emotional maturity in our partners. You seem very emotionally mature. I don't mean this in a superficial way. What I mean is that you are describing a healthy relationship in such a way that it represents a great deal of maturity in yourself and with relationships in general. Which I think is very uncommon.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/20 08:53 AM
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It depends, do you bring any baggage? If you are single and have no exes or children, then dating a single mom is a huge lifestyle hit. I have no baggage so single moms are not on my dating radar. Imagine you are a luxury liner mid-atlantic and she is the salvo of torpedoes heading straight at you. This will give you some idea of what it's like. There are problems: You will never be #1 in her life, her kids come first. You will have to deal with her exe. Your life, as you knew it, is over. In my…
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 12:00 AM
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I have had a similar "exclusive" relationship. My GF was not exclusive, and I really did not expect her to be. I know she had orbiters and contact with other men. But I accepted this because I would not commit more of my time to her due to my job at the time. Just like you. What you should be planning for is the end game, because you will breakup sooner than later, unless you create more time for her. Women hate being alone. Decide for yourself how the relationship should end, your approach and …
/r/MGTOW223/08/20 09:59 PM
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Have you ever had an exclusive relationship with such equality and romantic intent? It sounds great. What follows is what I have experienced in an equal exclusive partnership: I too like equality in relationships but of a different nature. I would not be looking for someone to support me, nor would I feed I need to support her. Essentially, we enter the relationship from a basis of our own independent lives. We do not need someone to complete ourselves in any way. We can "do life" alone and be h…
/r/ExRedPill23/08/20 09:41 PM
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By partner do you mean marriage? cohabitating? Can you be more specific?
/r/ExRedPill23/08/20 08:03 PM
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Hi, what's the best way for a man to let a modern independent woman know (what should he say exactly) that when on dates he would like to go dutch?
/r/ExRedPill23/08/20 08:01 PM
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You stated men like feminine women at all ages. By feminine do you mean pretty? Can I ask, you as a woman close to 50, what are you looking for in a man? I am guessing you are single? You talk about an older man buying a young woman is not something to brag about, but as a feminine woman don't you want a provider to look after you financially?
/r/ExRedPill23/08/20 10:22 AM
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Would you consider a confirmed bachelor a maggot? and if so why?
/r/ExRedPill21/08/20 09:08 PM
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You know what's going on. It is up to you, but you could have been much more aggressive in your remarks. Obviously, you know the woman better than I do. You have identified that she is trying to use your past against you. To use it to manipulate you. This manipulative behavior is belligerent, it is disrespectful, and shows she does not care about you. What about just calling her out. , "I feel your line of questioning is disrespectful", "you just want to know more about my past in order to manip…
/r/TheRedPill20/08/20 08:50 PM
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Anytime a woman approaches to start a conversation it is a huge sign of initial attraction. Take my advice. No matter what she looks like sit down and talk to her. How do you know the timeline to close the deal? of course you have to act, but at what speed and why? If you are able to establish a connection with the woman you will know how fast or slow to escalate. If, as a man, you know how to flirt, you can establish the relative level of attraction before approaching. Don't approach based on t…
/r/TheRedPill20/08/20 06:53 PM
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I think perhaps you should separate the statistics to the general male population and to the available pool of women. Let's talk about the general male population 40 to 60. So contributing factors to a high value male are: Height: 14.5% are 6 feet and over in the US. Being fit and healthy: 20% (this is my estimate, and represents no underlying health issues) Financially secure: 10% Emotionally healthy (mental health, able to enter into a relationship, understand women): 20% ****Baggage Factor***…
/r/TheRedPill20/08/20 05:49 PM
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The question in my opinion is a test, and by feeling embarrassed you failed. The following may seem harsh to women reading this, but understand that emotional tests from women are belligerent. Just imagine the most difficult questions a woman might ask and script and memorize your own response. Then you will be prepared. To sleep with 100 women without being prepared for this question is really uniquely outstanding. I am very impressed. To answer your specific question: I never lie to a woman. S…
/r/seduction13/08/20 09:22 PM
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If you see a man you feel is attractive you should flirt to see if he has interest. For me flirting is what you do before meeting someone. It is an unspoken way to determine interest. I am a man, but I know how to flirt with women. This is what I see as the best way for a woman to flirt. Maybe you could tell me how you flirt? #1 Eye contact. It is hard to describe exactly how much, other than to say it is longer than an uninterested glance. It is somewhat a learned skill based on a woman's own p…
/r/seduction13/08/20 08:12 PM
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To me flirting is something you do to gauge initial attraction from a woman before approaching. When you are talking to someone it is called conversation. I don't flirt when talking to a women in conversation, I am doing much more, I am trying to make an emotional connection. That is, a connection of mutual attraction, we are not verbalizing emotions. Emotional connection is unspoken.
/r/seduction13/08/20 08:10 AM
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Hi, I wanted to reflect on your mysterious statement. There is another way to look at this with similar results. Although I tend to not be mysterious, in the strongest sense of the word. I guess I don't really know how to be mysterious, which is probably because of my personality. I would say I minimize what I volunteer in terms of information. To be more specific. When asked a question from a woman you can do several things. You can respond in full, or in part, or replace (provide an answer to …
/r/seduction13/08/20 07:40 AM
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I am not a girl so I really cannot answer your question. But I do have something to add. I can tell you that dancing well is a special skill that many women are attracted to. But you don't dance to get women. You dance because of your passion and joy for music and movement. You dance for yourself. I am a ballroom dancer (cha cha, rumba, east coast swing, and street latin (salsa, bachata, meringue). Ballroom dancing involves lead-follow (men lead, women follow). To dance well is a life commitment…
/r/seduction13/08/20 07:06 AM
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When ever a female brings up a topic that is needed before sex always take advantage of it. So, I would have asked about STIs in a nice way and volunteer your results were negative etc. Tell her you practice safe sex by always using a condom. You get the idea.
/r/seduction12/08/20 07:10 AM
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From Robert Greene's book The Laws of Human Nature. "nonverbal communication cannot be experienced simply through thinking and translating thoughts into words but must be felt physically as one engages with the facial expressions or locked positions of other people" by physically Milton is describing emotional connection. So I know what you mean by saying "allow her to feel my presence". Because I know that you are feeling her's. Many do not fully understand the word connection in this context. …
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:25 PM
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100/5 = 20 on average per year. 20/12 = 1.7 women per month. 1.7 relationships per month? Higher because most in the last three? Please tell me your secret. You must have some advice you can give?
/r/seduction08/08/20 08:54 PM
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My research shows that in the US adult population 83% to 90% are not self-aware. The accepted reference for emotional maturity is called Emotional Intelligence. It assumes a mentally healthy upbringing and most of the roadblocks are the common distorted beliefs or poor self-image. Complicating becoming self-aware are childhood trauma and other debilitating conditions like learning disabilities. I would fall into the latter category (dyslexia). Given the above, you can see the challenge in findin…
/r/seduction04/08/20 07:04 PM
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I see your point of view on the "you deserve" statements by way of men acknowledging their rights as participants in relationships, or as you put it, having standards. I think both of us paint a rather bleak picture of mental health for young adult males when it comes to relationships. How long did it take you to become self-aware? I completed my journey at about age 33.
/r/seduction04/08/20 05:26 AM
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You have a firm grasp of the subject. I would go as far to say an expert. I have the same conclusions but my journey is via interpersonal communications (conversation) and psychology not PUA. Let me add, that even in the past, if you can flirt effectively the PUA cold approach is largely a waste of time. What matters is initial attraction form the woman. The reason most men fail at conversation with women is they are emotionally immature (the majority of men are not self-aware). One example is l…
/r/seduction04/08/20 04:52 AM
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In my opinion the reason men settle is they are not emotionally mature enough for relationships, and as such, make bad decisions. For example the majority of adult males are not self-aware. To know what you want you have to understand yourself first, then you can understand others. I think self-aware men know that they deserve nothing without effort. The sweeping "you deserve" statements are just motivational fluff. Motivation is great, but you never seem to get details of how to make it happen.…
/r/seduction03/08/20 08:00 PM
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I will talk about Seduction as described by Robert Greene. To master seduction you have to have Recognition of self (Self-aware) and Recognition of others (Empathy, Social Skills), once attained, you will be able to project who you are to envelop your partner. Everyone has a core seduction type based on who they are, your personality type. Here is the important part: Seduction is an expression of who the person is. It is not an act. It is not reading a script. It is presented in everything they …
/r/seduction19/07/20 07:46 PM
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You should be comfortable and show it. Women need to feel safe in order to move towards intimacy as follows: Physical Safety (Just you and her, in a secured locked environment, no roommates) Social Safety (Peer group, make sure she knows you will keep in confidence everything that happens between the two of you. No kiss and tell to anybody about anything) Emotional Safety (She must trust that you will value her emotional investment in you) Then you need to communicate. Ask her if she wants anyth…
/r/seduction18/07/20 10:07 PM
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A recurring theme for both men and women in dating, well in life in general, is being emotionally immature. For example; Self-Confidence. Recognition of self comprises; Self-Awareness, Self-Regulation and Motivation. Self-Confidence is part of being Self-Aware, which is rooted in our Self-Image. Next you should have Recognition of others mainly; Empathy and Social Skills. With the above prerequisites in place you are now ready to talk to women for dating. So given the background above let's disc…
/r/seduction18/07/20 09:28 PM
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From a man: My definition of flirting is nonverbal communication before conversation. Each man must have his own method of flirting, rooted in who he is and his personality. Things a man needs, you have have good eyesight, pay attention without staring, and know how to communicate nonverbally to show interest (attraction) when flirting. Okay with the above as a foundation lets get to your question. Pardon me for saying, but I think you may not understand your role in the attraction process as fo…
/r/seduction18/07/20 08:45 PM
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You do not have to sexualize a conversation with a woman who is attracted to you. The underlying reason the two of you are talking is sex, it does not have to be openly discussed. When women make a first impression based on physical attractiveness, they will see the man as a potential mate or not. If so, they will flirt, flirt back and if there is a positive response, go over and talk. Do not cold approach a woman who does not show initial attraction to you. This is known as a creep. For intimac…
/r/seduction18/07/20 07:54 PM
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