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We’re saying that the terms refer to stereotypical characteristics of men and women. A woman can exhibit toxic masculinity and visa versa. It’s describing the behavior not the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:16 PM
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Ouch, stop personally attacking me!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 01:51 PM
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It’s the prisoners dilemma. If men and women acted morally, being honest and not trying playing games then it would be better for everyone, but if one of them plays games and lies then it’s doubly worse for the honest one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:42 PM
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I’m blue pill but totally agree. This is the tragedy of the commons. I think it’s honestly the main point of miscommunication in this sub. The red pill is trying to get men what they want (sex) while the blue pill is trying to get men to behave morally (honesty etc). I think that if everyone started acting morally and didn’t play the dumb games trp recommends it would be better for society, but in the short term it’s not going to get dudes laid more..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 10:47 PM
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Do men have right to sex with men? If so, would you bend over and allow another man take what is his right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:51 AM
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Cause it’s hypocritical to pine for a lifestyle in a hypothetical but in reality not want a family member to live that lifestyle. It goes to show they are just saying that lifestyle is desirable because it supports their warped beliefs but in reality they don’t think it’s desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:06 PM
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How do you know your experience isn’t the exception? I find that a lot of what is discussed on this page doesn’t apply to my lives experience and that of my peers, I think it has something to do with the socioeconomic and political groups that I’m a part of but most of my friends are in relationships with women who make more and are happy about it. They are highly educated and us men take on more home making burdens. I do believe that your lived experience is what you talk about above, but I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:09 AM
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Thank you! Just letting you know that there are great women out there if you look hard enough and in new places!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:21 AM
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Not yet. We are planning to in the next few years and I’m planning on taking the majority of the child care (taking time off from work etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:20 AM
0

False, my wife loves that she makes more than me and that her career comes first
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:16 PM
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Just to be clear, that is one person’s MO, not all women’s MO. Please don’t extrapolate from a single source to all women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:49 PM
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You mean that your life depends 90% on getting a partner? How could you perceive what other peoples life depends on?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:57 PM
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What? Where are you getting that 90% from?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:50 PM
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Generally the older generation tends to be more conservative, which aligns with red pill ideas as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:55 PM
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Oh yeah, your right. It’s about 60% self made. For “ultra high wealth individuals”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:19 AM
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Most of the wealthiest men in the us also inherited their wealth.. Edit: it’s actually wrong, about 60% of ultra high wealth individuals are “self made”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:12 AM
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Why not everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 10:43 AM
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That’s not a common thing! Most people that have unwanted pregnancies tried some method of birth control but it failed, usually due to ignorance or a mistake, not malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:45 AM
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Many of them do… some of them have person histories that lead them to that hatred, some of it is just regurgitated hate, just like many red pill guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:59 PM
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A lot of those men here do have inherent hate against those women.. posts here are consistently talking about how this women will take half your money! And they rode the cock carousel and now want to settle down and feel entitled to your money etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:39 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:03 PM
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This is just communism for relationships. Tinder right now is a free market and matches and dates are based on supply and demand. You are trying to redistribute the “wealth”. Not saying it’s a bad thing, just pointing out the similarities to a system that many people despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:57 PM
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I don’t think thats a generally accepted difference between those two words. I agree that your kind definition sounds like a more likable person, but I just don’t think those two words mean those things for most people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:13 PM
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I’m a dude 7/10 looks and I loved dating while I was single. But I’m an extrovert and really liked meeting new people and wooing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:40 PM
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The pendulum of womens rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:16 PM
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What’s happening in 2027?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:09 PM
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We are trying to change it, which is why we are having these conversations, so gather support. What are you doing here if not trying to prevent that change?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:06 PM
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Sure, the relation is that the system allows self interest and corruption to rule rather than the interest of the people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:46 PM
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Abortions and roe are supported by more than 50% of the population. Unfortunately the Supreme Court has no relation to the populous opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:32 AM
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That doesn’t have anything to do with why abortion isn’t protected anymore. It’s the Christian Right imposing their will on the rest of the country. They wouldn’t have protect roe if men could opt out of child support. That’s a stretch of a straw man argument if I ever heard one
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:58 PM
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What’s an opt out?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:24 PM
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You shouldn’t stick your dick in anyone that you don’t trust. So if you don’t trust women in general to not cheat on your then you just should stay away
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:56 PM
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But this is taking the ability of dealing with the consequences away from those people.. like you can’t say deal with the consequences and then prevent them from dealing with it..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:09 AM
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Why limit sex to only childbearing when we have the technology to allow sex for fun and prevent unwanted births?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:37 PM
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Right, I’m talking about the ones that didn’t want to have a birth and are now forced too because they can’t get abortions. The other person was equating that to men being forced to pay child support
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:18 PM
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I wouldn’t expect either parent to return to work within that amount of time, even in the case of an infant adoption where neither parent had any medical complications
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:59 PM
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I would argue that parental leave is to take care of an infant, which takes a lot of work, feeding around the clock, diaper changes, preventing it from trying to kill itself (human babies are suicide machines). Generally I’m against forcing permanent physical distress on people they don’t choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:54 PM
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Forcing a life changing medical experience on a human is far from “equal” to purely a financial burden…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:36 PM
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Aren’t women mostly raising kids on their own? Like what are the stats on single moms vs single dads? Pretty sure many more women are stuck with parenting than men are..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:21 PM
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0 for women? What are you talking about? Single mothers had to raise kids all the time when men left them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:15 PM
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What privilege are we talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:13 PM
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Cause capitalism works so great… nah I’ll actually have empathy for other people and try to help those less fortunate out than shit on them for some perceived laziness then complain why no one is progressing in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:21 AM
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Yes having all four limbs is a privilege, not everyone does and being able to walk around and use stairs and door handles is a privilege. I never said that white people can’t have challenges. And just because you are privileged doesn’t mean you can’t have challenges. All you have to do is realize there are areas of your life that were easier than other peoples. It’s not that hard, but for some reason so many people feel like they have to point out every little challenge they personally faced ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:12 AM
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Did your parents beat you? Drink away their money? Use drugs? Did you have a decent school to go to? All those things are privilege. Why do people think privilege means that you don’t have to work for anything in your life. Privilege doesn’t mean you are billionaires, it just means you had some advantages, which it sounds like you did..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:27 AM
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So leave those kids to fail and they become failing parents. Helping those kids break the loop of poverty isn’t “enabling” their parents. And yes, you are privileged. You just said that being born into certain households results in certain outcomes. So by being born into a household with working parents IS privilege. Why do you think working and raising kids makes you special? Plenty of people do that all the time. Making sacrifices.. like most people don’t? Plenty of people have to suffer a who…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:08 AM
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Writing off kids as lost causes before they even take their first step. I usually don’t resort to name calling but that’s a dick move. It’s that kind of holier than thou bullshit that I hope you don’t procreate and raise more arrogant pieces of shit. Or at least I hope your kids don’t grow up like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:22 PM
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We’ll, I support ubi, so I totally agree everyone should have a living wage. But your other statements aren’t earnest arguements. It’s not the parents that “get money” it’s the children that benefit from childcare and good schools. They are the ones that get more equal footing to their rich counterparts whose parents have high paying jobs and can send their kids to the best preschools and private education. Why do you think you would pay 100% for your own kid in this scenario? Your kid would als…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:25 PM
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So paid parental leave, better child care and good school systems seems like a good solution, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:31 PM
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Ok, so show an example of a post where someone brings up any of the 3 6s and people take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:41 AM
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“Don’t date him” sure sounds like a group to help women not date abusive or asshole guys, not a duck measure database..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:34 AM
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Post an example of one of these Facebook groups. I dated through my 20s in a major city, meeting dozens of women and not a single one I dated or was friends with ever was a part of one of these Facebook groups, let alone wanting 6, 6, 6. Plenty wanted tall guys and some wanted rich guys but not a single one cared about penis length
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:55 AM
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But like what actual actions do we take, or just increasing awareness?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:46 AM
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Ok, I believe you. What is your suggested path of action? Men are being discriminated against in the hiring process, what do you suggest we do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:34 AM
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Randomly dropping resumes on LinkedIn isn’t how you get high paying jobs though.. it’s networking, who you know, who your daddy knows etc. so your suggested “test” is a false premise. I haven’t seen any legitimate data come from you yet, you’ve been cherry picking small examples while ignoring the overall numbers. Look at manager numbers at most fortune 500s and they are heavily skewed male. As a white male, I’ve never once been personally discriminated against in the work place or see any of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:57 PM
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That first article is talking about academics, not tech industry. The second article is specifically about a small group (200) people at google had the women making more than men, this isn’t a systematic truth If you think women have been in the lead for decades then why are there more male doctors in all the high age brackets? Do you think that men and women have equal footing from birth to achieve in all of these area and women are just genetically inferior or do you believe that society pushe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:57 PM
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I’d take that bet for high paying jobs like doctors, lawyers, Business directors, and bankers. Nurses and teachers aren’t high paying jobs and they are traditionally the only jobs that women were allowed to have. There definitely is discrimination against men getting caretaking type jobs, but women face discrimination in many more industries like business, tech, finance etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:41 PM
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Where do you live and what income bracket are you in? Genuine questions, I think there is a big cultural difference between people who live in liberal east coast cities vs conservative small towns or Midwest cities. Living in liberal east coast cities my whole life and associating with upper middle class people, I’ve seen this a whole lot, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t happen as much in conservative areas with lower paying jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:13 PM
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Not op, but I was living in a big east coast city working a desk job and happened to meet plenty of women, either through sports leagues, bars, happy hours with friends (yes that’s a social network), and on line dating. Yes I struck out a lot, but I’m not expecting to connect with a woman on each interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:42 PM
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In context of becoming a ceo, what does “put more impetus on non power related things” mean if “not less driven to work hard for corporate progress”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 11:40 AM
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You said women are less hyper intelligent, less sociopathic, and less driven to work hard. Which you said are the valuable traits for business leadership. Doesn’t that mean women aren’t as good as men at business leadership? I’m not trolling, just trying to understand the mental gymnastics you are doing to avoid calling women inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 07:55 PM
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You know how big Texas is? Not everyone can afford to take days off work and pay for transportation at the drop of a hat. How about politicians stop putting their hands into peoples private health decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:44 PM
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If men aren’t better than women (at corporate progress, cause that’s what we’ve been discussing) and men aren’t privileged (when it comes to corporate progress) then why are so many more ceos men than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:50 PM
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So the women should live with the “consequences” of sex for the rest of their lives, but men just need to pay some money for 18years.. and you think women are the privileged ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:43 PM
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Right, they just need to go through a traumatic 9 months with lifelong physical and emotional consequences, then they can just leave the baby on the doorstep of some man, who is now stuck caring for it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:32 PM
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Women can’t get out of parent hood in Texas… suck it women!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:26 PM
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You are saying that women do have equal opportunity, they just aren’t as good as men so the results aren’t even? I understand what you are saying. But I disagree. I’ve seen the effects of unconscious bias hold back my female coworkers, while my career has progressed quickly and easily being a white male. I have a huge privilege being who I am. I understand why so many men are unwilling to admit that, because it makes your accomplishments seem lesser, when someone says you have privilege, like yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:43 AM
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What I’m saying is we should give them an actual fair and equal chance. But when history is stacked against you and the corporate ladder is full of white men, with their own unconscious biases. It’s hardly a fair shake for women and other minorities. I’m glad you believe in equality. I just hope that you are willing to acknowledge the privilege that we men have in our society today and that we need to work a little harder to even the playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:46 AM
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Is that the speech you are going to give to your daughter when she’s graduating high school? “Hey honey, I know you try really hard but don’t bother, a man is gonna be your boss one day”. I don’t think CEO’s need any of the traits you just mentioned and I think that women can, and will, be a more equal share of the leaders of the future. But it seems you want to continue to belittle women’s efforts to achieve those goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:35 AM
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How many communist female leaders did the ussr have?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:20 AM
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If you think that working 120hour weeks is a trait that makes ceos, then yeah I guess so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:13 AM
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How many historic women leaders are there compared to male leaders? Women worked, but not in the roles that lead to leadership. I didn’t say anything about the 50s so I’m not sure why you are focused on that decade
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:11 AM
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Those “planned” societies were also created by men, for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:01 AM
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Our current economy was developed in a time when men worked and women didn’t. So the standard of what a ceo should be like was developed with only men in mind. Women weren’t available to break the mold of what we expect out of our business leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 12:56 AM
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Having role models is incredibly important. Without seeing people in positions of power that you can relate to, someone may not even consider that as an option. Well, since the standard for ceos has been developed in a patriarchal society then we could reformat our expectations for ceos. Edit: It’s even more important when your superiors aren’t sexually harassing you too..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 12:20 AM
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I’d add in that they had role models that looked like them at every step of their career (white male). And that they were encouraged by society to dive into a career and ignore family life in lieu of being good parents. So what would you suggest to do to help even out the physchopathic traits among ceos?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:39 PM
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Typing in all caps doesn’t make it any more truthful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:16 PM
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Amen to that! The biggest privilege is being rich!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:18 PM
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That is number 2, just focused on a small portion of each gender. That arguement might stand up for the ceos but if you look at management and lower level execs across major corporations, it’s also heavily skewed toward men as well. That’s not the upper end of the bell curve, and they don’t need to work 100 hours to get those positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 08:52 PM
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By replying I assume you feel the same as the above poster. Why do you say that “common factor is that women make a choice to not work long enough hours” you don’t need 50% of women to work 100hour weeks. You just need as many as men who are willing. In my career, I’ve seen equal portions of women and men put in the long hours (my wife included) but less women end up in positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 07:52 PM
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Where do you get the idea that many women aren’t willing to put in the hours? There are three potential reasons why the majority of executive positions are filled by men: 1. Men are naturally better at the jobs 2. Men work harder than women and therefor produce better 3. Men are privileged and they have an edge on women when selected for advanced positions. It sounds like you think it’s number 2. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 07:47 PM
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But what is the common factor for all those ceos? Just because a group is privileged doesn’t mean that all will be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 07:29 PM
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I don’t care about other dudes history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:08 PM
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I’m a dude, so my hypocrisy isn’t the issue. I’m asking how your belief changes how you are going to go about interacting with women in the world. Cause if it doesn’t change your actions. I don’t really care what your believe and I’m not sure why you would either. I’m curious to how this belief applies to your life or how it will improve your relationship with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:14 AM
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How does your belief in this matter effect your actions in dating or interacting with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:43 PM
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You can choose what parts of your past matter. Because it’s your past. Simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:40 PM
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You are doing it wrong if consent ruins the fun
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:45 PM
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If that’s true then why don’t more people opt to test? If they really care so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:12 PM
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Why does it matter? Unless the man explicitly doesn’t want to support a child unless it is theirs biologically it shouldn’t matter. And In that case they can opt to have a test. Seems like a waste of resources for most couples
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:12 PM
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Oh well congrats to me I guess. Best of luck to you as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:36 PM
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You are looking at that through a man’s lens. Most women are reluctant to use their “sexual privilege” to get the commitments they want from men. Just like most men are reluctant to use their money and stability to get the sex they want from women. At least that’s how you should think of it if you prescribe to a pill. I went out and found a woman that enjoys sex and making more money than me, so idk what pill that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:32 PM
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What about next of kin visitation in the hospital or filing taxes jointly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:44 PM
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Why blame the women in this scenario instead of the guys who were cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:40 PM
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But we are arguing WHY they took the actions, you say its because they dont find the new man attractive. I'm saying it can be for other reasons. You can observe them not doing X but you can't observe their motivations, only a mind reader would know that. You are saying you are "deducting" their motivations, I'm saying your deduction is wrong. You have not provided any data or even anecdotes that support your "deduction". You keep pointing to your own comments like they support your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:00 PM
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You can read women's minds? Like you know WHY they aren't doing X with you? That's incredible! We should get you into a scientific study to see if we can find out how you have that incredible super power. It could change the world!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:54 PM
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Why not both? 12 hour days!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:53 PM
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So because you keep repeating yourself it’s fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:43 AM
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Why do you think that sexual preferences can’t change?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:42 PM
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Cause people can change. I used to love staying out to 2 am. But I’m older now and like being in bed by 10am. I used to love frozen pizzas but now I don’t dip below dominos. Why do you find it so hard to believe peoples preferences change?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:38 PM
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Well then you are just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:17 PM
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Why do you judge other people’s choices and then you complain that people judge yours? Live and let live, if other women want to sell their sexuality, let them. If you want to not work, go for it!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 01:10 AM
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I don’t think men that want casual sex will shame women for having casual sex…UNLESS that casual sex is with someone else. Because then they are just complaining they aren’t getting their dick wet. Plenty of men will look down on promiscuous women but in a heart beat change their tune if suddenly those women want sex from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:56 PM
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I mean you can make the scale start at 1, honestly I think it makes more sense that way with the way most rating scales work these days. You can’t give 0 stars on most review systems, which forces 3 stars to be the middle of the curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:28 PM
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Wouldnt 5.5 be absolutely average so 6 would be very close to average
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:12 AM
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Right, but friends are typically a lot easier to make than romantic partners. So if you have neither, I would suggest starting with trying to make friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:10 PM
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Do you have friends that love you? If you are looking for love you have to win/earn but is easier than a romantic partners love I would try forming strong friendships
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:51 AM
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If y’all and actually running into women like this then start looking elsewhere. I didn’t run into any women that demanded or even expected half of that in a single man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:52 AM
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If we really didn’t have free will then that removes responsibility for our actions because it wasn’t you who decided to take that action. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:22 PM
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So are you trying to remove blame or responsibility to your actions by saying you didn’t have free will in making those choices? Or are you a psychology student who just finished sophomore year psych? Or maybe both
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 11:35 AM
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Yes, what are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 12:12 AM
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What? You just admit that we can “react” which gives us free will. Then you say you can predict with near certainty. Which is it, are we completely controlled by these biological inclinations or is there a chance I’ll cut down the tree? Also what does cutting down a tree have to do with anything? I have free will, obviously my choices are influenced but in the end I can choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 09:03 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 01:06 AM
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That’s influencing others but you can “make” someone like you. They have self autonomy to make their own judgements.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:11 PM
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They love sex, they don’t love women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:21 PM
1

Why play that game though? Why deal with a woman who is going to play games with you? It’s like giving you the option to walk through a landmine field to get laid when there are women who aren’t circled by land mines.. just pass on that bitch and find another
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:52 PM
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You are reducing women to reward that you can “win” which objectifies and minimizes them as humans. This is how you get men who feels entitled to sex “ I bought you dinner so you have to give me sex” kinda stuff. Because they don’t see the complex human on the other side of the table they just see the sex object. When you buy birthday presents for a friend, or go out for beers with them, are you hoping for some sort of reward at the end or do you just enjoy hanging out and seeing that person hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:21 PM
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You said a woman becomes irrelevant, I didn’t realize you meant a sahw. Never mind then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 11:29 PM
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It’s almost like women want to have careers and get paid like men do and not be relegated to just home makers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:24 PM
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You just said “no it’s not” when responding to assumptions and ignored others. Provide some real supported responses or accept that you have unsupported assumptions in your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:12 PM
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I mean that’s the case with any social progress. We had a black president and the next president is a racist. There is always a reaction from conservatives (not referring to republicans but people who want status quo) when progressives make strides in their direction. Sure feminism has overstepped multiple times but in general i think it’s doing well and if we focus on the few failures it distracts from the progress and conservatives will hold everything back until there are no failures
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:36 PM
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Eh, I mean we both know that even faced with hard data people don’t change their mind that easily and even in the case they do they aren’t happy with it. I think generally my stance on a lot of topics we talk about here is that the red pill is acting based on how things are. While the blue pill is making decisions on how we’d like the world to be, more equal. I generally think that if we all started acting this way the culture would change and that would change behavior. But for now it looks lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:12 PM
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I said I would check that out when I wasn't on mobile. I got to my computer, looks like a peer reviewed journal, no qualms there. You win
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 11:56 AM
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Do you understand that I’m not arguing that men don’t have a preference for lower n count women. What I’m arguing is that it’s unfounded. Men have been told that high n count women are bad for ltrs and therefor prefer low n count women. If there was a way to perform a blind study where husbands didn’t know the n count of their wives and visa versa, I don’t believe there would be correlation. I’ll have to take a look at the Wikipedia article you sent when I’m not on mobile, can’t find the source …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 11:22 AM
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Oh I’m sorry. I thought you were using that as a way to gauge what was “high n count” now I see you were saying that since people say they prefer a lower n count that a high n count person has a harder chance of finding a ltr. I understand where you are coming from and I think that there are definitely people who this is true with but I think it’s stigma against high n count that drives this preference not something inherently different about people who end up having high n counts. So yes I agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:37 AM
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Right so with n counts in the teens I don’t think there is any effect on ltr ability. Before someone used an example of high n counts been 50-100. Which I won’t comment on because I have no experience or knowledge of anyone with those numbers. That is why I clarified.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 06:06 PM
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I only brought up the fact of the rarity of “high” n count women to say that it’s not helpful to have a conversation based on their experiences in relation to women as a whole. It’s like using Michael Jordan as an example for all basketball players when he is an outlier. I don’t have any reasonable insights into how likely n count of 50+ women do with ltrs because I don’t know of any. When talking about n counts in the teens I believe there is not a negative correlation with ability to have a lt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 04:59 PM
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Almost 1%. But all kidding aside, what I think we are saying is that in reality these absurdly high n count people/women are so few and far between it doesn’t make sense to even factor them into your evaluation. In reality a “high”n count is in the teens. And at that point we/I don’t believe there is an appreciable difference in ability to settle into a ltr. I complete agree with the previous commentor saying that a woman who has a n count in that range can find the right person after than many …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 03:56 PM
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Ever heard of an asymptote?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 03:00 PM
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Go ahead and insult my profession, I don’t mind, and I’d rather have an open discussion about the topic than you feel like you can’t fully express your thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:18 PM
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Yeah actually I do. I work in consulting and while it’s not quite 50/50 male female it’s getting there and by no means are the women the bottom of the ratings ladder when year end reviews occur. And before you jump in and say the ladies are getting their ratings handed to them because they are women, that’s definitely not the case on my teams, where the women regularly outperform the men. Edit: I guess I should add and many of the women are attractive as well, because that was a criteria for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 01:33 AM
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But I know plenty of attractive white women in high pressure hard work jobs. Sure they aren’t blue collar jobs but still lots of hard work
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:47 PM
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I’m a guy so I can’t say why I reward men for being jerks. Nor can I speak for all of women, but sometimes humans dont make the best decisions for themselves, they make mistakes and sometimes they make systematic mistakes. For example, I know I’m a lightweight when it comes to alcohol but I still got sick drinking last night even thought at my age I should know better. It doesn’t mean getting wasted was a smart decision but I still made it, wether consciously or not. Now I understand the inclina…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 05:46 PM
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It’s immoral to cheat on an exam, doesn’t mean you won’t get a better score. I don’t want to speak for anyone else, but my issue with trp isn’t that it won’t work sometimes, it’s that it’s immoral to be manipulative and misleading and belittling. If you want to work out and have hobbies in order to be an interesting prospect for women, of course that’s fine but when you take the next steps of manipulation through lies or misdirection is when I start to have issues with your methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 05:27 PM
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“Be a man” no, op is asking a woman to teach her son about how to interact with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:27 PM
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Hey, I don’t agree with pretty much anything the other guy said either, but I do want to address your last statement. Why would you not take into account feelings in a situation like rape? Like the main issue with rape is the feelings it produces in the victims afterward. Serious feelings like ptsd and powerlessness and depression. If person a is raped and ends up having ptsd and has issues being close to another person for years that had a worse outcome than if person b had the same act perform…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 12:59 PM
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Oh, thats great. Yeah I'm not nearly opposed to that idea if those are considerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 08:44 PM
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Oh so you are saying that with your plan, if no one signs anything and they get pregnant, the man still has to pay his share of the abortion and related costs? Maybe in a world where abortion was safely and easily available to all and wasn't so demonized I'd be ok with that. But because its not, I don't think that we can assume both parties are just OK with an abortion. I usually check with the women I've had sex with before having sex, though that was just a verbal confirmation, not a legally b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 07:11 PM
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I don’t think that addresses what we were talking about, which is who should bear the burden of getting the other to sign something before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 05:21 PM
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The biological burdens can't be transferred, but the financial and parental burdens can be shared through legal institutions. My arguement is that because the biological burden cannot be shared we should ensure the finacial and time commitments of abortion/adoption/parenthood should be shared through legal means. Now I understand the desire for men to eschew those burdens so by giving them the ability to opt-out, we fulfill that desire. But to have the burden of the biological as well as the leg…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:28 PM
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Got it. Yeah so what you are saying is put the burden of getting papers signed on the woman and not the man. What I’m saying is because the woman has serious consequences from pregnancy outside of legal consequences that I think the burden should be on the man and not the women. To even the load as it were. I understand your point I just think it will lead to more men abandoning women with unwanted children because the women didn’t get them to sign a paper. Which you’ll say is there fault, but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 12:46 PM
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Sorry, could you elaborate. I’m not following this point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:13 AM
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When you say both have nothing to do with the guy you realize you are glossing over both abortion and birth have a lasting effect on the woman. So when I say scott-free for the guy I mean they can just walk away without any lasting effect, but the woman has to go through some serious stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 01:59 AM
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something happens means the duo conceive a child when they weren't planning on it. I guess my question is, why do you think it should be the woman's responsibility to get the man to sign something before sex and not the man's responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 09:53 PM
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No, again, because of what the woman has to go through in terms of physically being pregnant I think it tips the scales in their favor on that decision. If neither person had to actually be pregnant and give birth or have the abortion (hypothetically a surgot or when we invent 100% lab babies) then I think they would have to both agree to terminate. But while we are talking old fashion pregnancies and births, the women gets the final say in abortions and if a man doesnt want to be responsible th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:13 PM
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Women's behavior? It takes two to tango. There's two ways to manage this, one is have men have to opt out, which puts the duty on the men, the other is to have men opt in, which puts the duty on the women. IMO because women have to deal with more of a physical repercussion to pregnancy, I feel its "fair" or at least more appropriate to put that duty on the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 04:57 PM
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Because we all know that opt in is a high harried to entry than opting out. So this would leave many women high and dry without support in the case of an unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 04:15 PM
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Could it be that many men have been lied to by movies and tv shows that we will all end up with supermodels when in reality the average women has a BMI of over 20. Everyone likes to think they are above average but in reality about half of us are below average and most are basically average. And we don’t see below average women on tv or movies, only the 9-10 range
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:41 AM
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BILL BRASKEY What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:35 PM
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Dan Bilzerian
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 05:34 PM
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Does Dan Blizaran or whatever his name is have a disorder? He is celebrated for fucking tons of ladies by millions of followers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 09:20 PM
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But why does it have to be each person individually has an escape plan? Like just make sure both party’s want the same thing (abortion or not in the case of unwanted pregnancies) and then you’re good. But if you take away abortion you are taking it away from both men and women, not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 01:41 PM
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How? Just cause I said abstinence? No I’m pro abortion, if a woman doesn’t want to have the kid since it’s their body they deserve the right to abort. Since it’s not men’s body if they don’t want kids they should either make sure the women is on the same page before having sex or just not have sex with that woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 01:38 PM
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Are you saying only if the dna test shows they are not the mans kid or they can renounce even if it’s their bio kid? I’m just clarifying your statement no judgement (yet ;))
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 01:36 PM
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So what do you suggest?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 12:06 AM
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Do you know what anecdote means? It refers to a single story or occurrence of an event.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 08:09 PM
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No need for a scholarly article. Just more than a hunch. #metoo was about an epidemic that is clearly supported with studies and data. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/21/587671849/a-new-survey-finds-eighty-percent-of-women-have-experienced-sexual-harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:50 PM
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Oh sorry I wasn't specific, I was asking for a source, not just your anecdotal ramblings
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:32 PM
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Except those laws are making women go through pregnancy. Where the child support laws are just financial burdens. If a man doesnt want to ever see their child they can just bugger off and pay for their half. They dont need to be parents. But a woman without an abortion has irreparable changes done to their body through pregnancy and childbirth. Plus then they need to deal with either raising the child or finding someone to take it from them. Do you see how one is not like the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:31 PM
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Where’d you see that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:04 PM
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That’s where, abstinence if you don’t want to deal with the possibility of pregnancy. Everything else is only 99.99% effective. No but seriously if a woman has to deal with the consequences of sex the man does too. I feel like many men feel like they should get off Scott free cause it’s not their body that has the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:04 PM
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You realize it takes two to get pregnant? Why are you saying it’s the woman’s actions alone that result in pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 06:20 PM
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Are they not doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 06:09 PM
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Oh and I thought we were going to have a productive conversation. If you like using anecdotal evidence to form your opinions, try taking a walk around the top universities and see if you see Steve urkels or good looking people. I think you’d be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:40 PM
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Statistically I agree with you on having kids but I'd like to see your data on having sex related to academic achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 04:50 PM
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Why would you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 11:40 AM
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Tell him not to do that cause it’s sexual assault... what kind of society do you think we live in that having big muscles allows someone to bully other people around? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:19 PM
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Ahh, yeah any red piller would be terrified with my relationship, we go against basically all the recommendations except that I tend to flirt with other woman but that’s just cause I’m a huge flirt. But it works for us so I’m happy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 05:58 PM
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Sorry, Im unfamiliar with Branch Swing, care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 05:16 PM
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Most men but not all men. I’m banking on my girlfriend being the bread winner when we get married. She already makes more than I do, which is in the 1% for our age bracket
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:47 PM
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I think the word responsibility carries some connotations that aren’t fair in these situations. Yes the person could evaluate the safety of said parking spot while parking just as a woman could attempt to evaluate a partners likelyhood of abuse early on in a relationship. But that doesn’t mean a diligent Parker can always avoid having their car broken into. There are ways people can reduce the risk of these things but one can never be 100% safe while engaging in these activities. Humans are unpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 08:11 PM
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Not just pay for poor folk but for things like public schools and roads and public transit. If you own a home that is more than 3/4 million, I think it’s safe to say you are rich enough to not need another tax break
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 07:54 PM
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I’m asking for your evidence or support for the declaration that something is “basic knowledge” cause I sure didn’t learn that in school or on jeopardy so I was wondering what you consider basic knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 10:02 PM
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Haha thanks, good constructive talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 09:48 PM
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How is that basic knowledge?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 09:37 PM
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What companies do this? I work in consulting and never had a client where this was a practice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 04:14 AM
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What if your boss was a woman and wanted to have a one on one conversation with you in her office? Or if you had a direct report that was a woman and you needed to have a one on one conversation with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 09:27 PM
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Biological shittyness? What’s shitty about having standards and sticking to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 01:13 PM
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You don’t think woman have a bar for their boyfriends? If not, please explain how you think woman decide if a man is datable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:42 PM
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Because the wage gap has the independent variable of gender where the fatality is independent variable of occupation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 08:13 PM
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Right, so this seems like less of a gender issue and more of an OSHA issue. If you are talking about the lack of public uproar about it or lack of funding for OSHA, then I at least understand your argument, but I would want to see the data on funding and such before I agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 07:35 PM
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If your car is stolen, is it on you for picking the wrong parking spot? Don't victim blame, especially in cases of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:19 PM
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Dude If you don’t like kids, don’t let people tell you you need them!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 05:34 PM
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Ok, I was speaking about developed countries. Developing countries have a whole host of other issues that cause dangerous work environments which need to stop and change. Would you rather more women get into these jobs to even out the death rates or make these jobs more safe or eliminate them all together so death rates just go down?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:55 PM
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How is this different from a “career man”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 01:27 PM
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I’m in, the fact that marriage has any legal benefits is an old Christian artifact from our days of Christian leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 12:58 PM
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Yeah I believe it. I’m pro zero homeless and zero hungry. I’m socialist so my utopia would make sure no one is hungry or homeless let alone their gender. I’m the mean time I try to feed or give money when I have cash to homeless people who are pretty much always men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 12:06 AM
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I mean mass manual labor will be automated. Sure artisan or craftsman work will continue to exist but that will be such a small portion of the workforce it won’t effect any statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 12:02 AM
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Manual labor is going to be automated away in the next decade anyway. Learn to code or buy stock that’s all that will be left soon. No danger there
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 09:44 PM
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Well if you mean circumcision then I’ll say I don’t see any laws requiring it and in most states I believe the parents need to ask for it to be done. If you know differently please educate me. That’s just from a quick google. As for the draft. We don’t have one anymore. And I’d say that the whole women in the military thing is being blocked by right wing macho men more than any feminist groups. Did you see the backlash women faced when women were finally let into ranger school?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 08:41 PM
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I’m going to focus on the one that seems more easily handled by new legislation, welfare programs. Cause fraud is already against the law so that’s more of an enforcement issue which just requires better enforcement, no real new or novel ideas. So addressing welfare for men, anything specific? Like homes for homeless men, halfway houses, any particulars?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 08:25 PM
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So like enforcing prenuptial agreements more vigorously? Or having marriage not be required for the tax and legal benefits involved like hospital visitation and such? Thus allowing people to live together their entire lives without having the government dictate they need to get “married”? Cause I’d be down for marriage to mean nothing legally let the church’s have “marriage” we’d have to come up with something for visitation and living will situations but I don’t think we need tax benefits for b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 08:23 PM
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What issue do you want to be worked on that effect men disproportionately? Give me your top one/two
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:32 PM
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“Bigger problem” how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 05:47 PM
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But people who resort to violence, even restrained violence, are more likely to harm someone/something than people who don't resort to violence when in stressing situations. Sure, I'd prefer someone punch a pillow than someone's face, but I'd rather they just cry or breathe deeply or go for a brisk walk than punch anything in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 02:29 PM
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That gap is alot smaller and more easily traversed that you think it is. If someone in stress goes to those things as relief, then what will they do in higher stress situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 01:53 PM
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I’m telling everyone to not be violent. Women, men, kids, dogs literally everyone. Can’t speak for other people but I don’t discriminate in my disapproval of violence. I do happen to see men perform the violence more often, so it may seem I’m more vocal against violence from men but it’s just that’s what I see more
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 01:42 PM
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But crying isn’t destructive and violence is inherently destructive. It’s not that one is “feminine” and therefor “ok” it’s that violence is inherently not ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 12:49 PM
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But you're not a man speaking in the first person. You are a woman talking about what men should do with their bodies or what men should feel. It's entitled. Actually I am a man. So when you are saying that I dont understand the "dangers" of being a man and confronting another man, you are dead wrong. I have confronted other men, and I have bit my tongue when its a dangerous situation, I dont understand why you seem to refuse you make the same judgement calls. But I see neither of us are going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 09:18 PM
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Entitlement: the fact of having a right to something (from google's dictionary). I don't think woman have the RIGHT to men standing up for them. I think men should do it (when its not obviously dangerous) You may not see the distinction but one is a HAVE TO and the other is a WOULD LIKE TO. For example I would like if I got a promotion this year, but I am not entitled to one, its up to my company to choose to give me one. I think that all women should suck my dick. That doesn't mean I am acting …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 08:55 PM
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I do think men should stand up against certain forms of what I would call inappropriate behavior such as cat calling yes. That doesn’t mean women are entitled to men doing so. Obviously men need to analyze the situation and not put themselves into real danger to correct what could be called a minor injustice. But I think saying that a man telling a friend that cat calling is wrong will lead to physical harm is an over exaggeration of the actual danger in the majority of cases. Now I don’t sugges…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 08:14 PM
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Dude, you keep putting words in my mouth, entitled and deserve are synonyms. I already said women aren’t entitled to men being nice to them. This is as easy as a women asking a man to hold the door. If the dude feels like he doesn’t want to hold the door then he can walk away and let it slam in her face, we can all agree he is under no obligation to hold the door but it would be nice for him to. Do you understand now?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 05:49 PM
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Where did I claim to be entitled to another’s body? Never did I say that men need to do anything, just that it would be nice. Desire and entitlement are two different things, as you pointed out with the blowjob example
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 05:04 PM
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You think that a friend telling a friend that cat calling could cause a physical altercation? Jesus, what kind of friends do you have? Also, the only thing anyone is "entitled" to from someone else is to not be harmed. This is a "if you want to be nicer, you can do this" kinda thing. Personally I want to be nicer, so I do these things. If you don't feel the need to be nicer, then don't but dont be surprised when people call you an asshole, or do its a free country.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 02:59 PM
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How is telling a friend that “hey cat calling isn’t cool” self sacrificing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 02:44 PM
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It doesn’t need to be self sacrificing, you can teach your son or any child that you are close to about good behavior and consent early on. You can call out your friends at work when they make a sexist comment, neither of these things hurt you in anyway except for an awkward conversation but they can end up making a huge difference in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 12:49 PM
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Lets get some male hypergamy going! I hear there is a new eligible bachelorette that is very rich ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:14 PM
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If you don't want luck then thats up to you. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:11 PM
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Sorry to hear your experience with smart, financially successful women has been so lack luster. I can tell you from experience both personally myself and others around me, that there are successful, loving, fun and sexy women in the world and they do date men who are no more financially successful than they are. Best of luck to you in the search for fantastic partners
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 04:10 PM
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What does career driven have to do with being a shrew?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 03:36 PM
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This is why men shouldn’t marry down. If you marry someone as wealthy and driven as you then you don’t have this problem :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:13 PM
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What about taking a lower paying job like teaching instead of business so someone has summers and afternoons with the kids? Does that factor into how much they deserve in a divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:58 PM
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Who hurt you? Do you need someone to talk to?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:38 PM
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THATS NOT HOW STATISTICS WORK! You cant say that any specific case of a unlikely outcome is falsified because it is unlikely. People win the lotto even though the odds of that are terrible. Woman will get pregnant on the pill, statistically 1/100 if you are taking your own metric to be true. The rest of your argument aside, you should at least learn how statistics work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:07 PM
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So what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 10:24 PM
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Hell yeah, you can have a great relationship if you get what you want or need from it for the time. People dont say that a job was worthless if you dont retire from it. If a relationship teaches you something that helps you improve or you get what you need during that time (sex or intimacy) it was worth it for the time spent
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 08:36 PM
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You are gendering chores, my mom mows the lawn and changed her own flats as much as my dad. And neither of them could change a taillight. Just cause you havent seen it and you have a preconceived notion of what chores a man should do be a woman doesnt mean those are correct assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:47 PM
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No, there are plenty of submissive men and dominant ladies. Sexual preference is just that, ones preference sexually. Some people sexual preference and social preference line up, but one is not a compensation for the other. Thats what large jacked up trucks are for
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 01:27 PM
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When did I say it was
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 05:38 PM
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Doesn't that mean their father's just aren't biological? It would be a shame is 8 kids had absentee fathers, now thats an issue I could get behind solving
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 10:35 PM
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Its been debunked in that its not 1 in 5 have been raped and reported it. But the 1 in 5 number still stands for experienced sexual misconduct, but show me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:46 PM
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I know this is anecdotal, but I don't know a single woman over 21 that hasn't been the victim to sexual misconduct in some way shape or form. So maybe my 100 or so women victims make up for the lack of victims in your circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:41 PM
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1 in 5 isnt rapes reported to police, its sexual misconduct and most of it goes unreported, like a student that has a teacher constantly touching her inappropriately, or a boss that looks down a blouse when standing over an employee. These things don't get reported often because the perpetrator has power over the woman and they feel they will be retaliated against, no matter what the "Policy" is. That shit is far to common, and many men don't even think its a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:17 PM
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Both gun violence and terrorism coverage are just ploys to push agenda's, gun violence to push liberal agendas and terrorism to push conservative agendas. If people really wanted to cut down on death's they would start funding autonomous car research and development. I understand what you are saying, I just personally seriously disagree with all of these agenda's being pushed, anti gun, anti immigrant and anti-feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:14 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:29 PM
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Because it isnt systematic, 4% is such a small percentage there are bad people in every walk of life, but when you look at the numbers about women who have been sexually harassed, its like 1 in 5 sometimes more. That is systematic, 5 times higher than this percentage. You can't stop all crimes, but if you see a certain crime is way more often than all the others like it, there's some systematic shit going on that you can actually address.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:33 PM
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Umm, not the analogy I was going for. More like people who are born good looking get sex without much "skill"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 02:26 AM
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Ok as long as you are consistent, women who get sex for being a woman is equivalent to people who are born into wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 02:24 AM
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But you can be successful financially without any effort or skill also.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:16 PM
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I don't want to speak too much for those women but my friend treats his friends to nice dinners, presents and takes them on vacations pretty frequently so if you are able to get in the good graces of someone that rich, you can benefit alot in experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:16 PM
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I think you are simplifying the exchange a little too much. These women aren't just hitting it and quitting, they want to be in these men's good graces so they get expensive dinners, drinks, vacations, jewelry, etc. Being around that kind of money, they get more free stuff than us normal people buy in a year. I have a friend who is in the first group and just hanging out with this guy I get fed more expensive food than I would buy for an anniversary dinner, and Im just a friend. Imagine what wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 06:19 PM
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Not unless its a major reason you love your SO. I would just infer it from the context of them being so happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 04:20 PM
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Not even close. Im saying the original question didn't ask for evidence that she was into him, so he didn't address that unasked question. You called him out for not supporting an answer he didn't try to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 02:33 PM
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That wasn't part of the question though. So why would he put that info in the answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 02:14 PM
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Wow I can't believe it, but I agree with just about everything you've said so far. From the gift won't change he opinion, to not expecting anything in return for the gift, to just asking her out. All great advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 01:35 PM
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Not specifically the example I gave, but similiar idea: http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/violence-desensitize.htm Violence in the video games people play and the tv/movies they watch can desensitize them to violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 07:21 PM
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No, I can assure you I am hilarious, my mom tells me so all the time. And you can tell alot about people by what they think is appropriate to joke about. I would wholeheartedly disagree with your first sentence there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:15 PM
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Not regulated, that's the opposite of the point. If people stopped saying terrible shit I wouldn't be able to avoid them before they DID the terrible shit. This way I can see the warning signs and remove them from my life, and warn others before they do anything bad. I want people to be honest with what they say, so that I can judge their character easily. If they censor what they say I won't know until its too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:57 PM
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Yes there is. Especially on college campuses, where young men try to "get away with" as much as they can sexually instead of having serious conversations with their partners. And for normalizing violence? How about boxing, UFC, "Boys will be boys" when they fight in the school yard? Riots when sports teams win, or lose. Yes we normalize violence all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 01:11 PM
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I bet you also think that evolution is a myth cause there are still monkeys. Of course it doesn't happen like that, but if you are constantly exposed to speech and culture that talks about woman as sexual objects and that the reason someone shouldn't hurt a woman is cause shes "someones daughter, wife, mom" and not just a human that deserves respect simply for that reason. It makes that leap easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 01:09 PM
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Whatever, read the example how you will, the rest of my original statement stands. Its not the "light gossip" its the rape culture and violence normalizing talk that people get upset about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:58 PM
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Its the addition of the fact that HR is the only thing holding the person back. If they said, "I'd like to hit that" that would be less bad, cause that keeps her consent in the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:47 PM
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Its implies that her consent isn't needed for the person to have sex with Sandra, it implies that the only blocker is the fear of being caught. Its not necessarily violence, but it is rape. There are better examples of worse things to say but that doesn't change what I said. Its light gossip that makes people mad, its the bad shit that makes people mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 07:23 PM
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No one is upset with "light gossip", its when men say stuff that normalizes rape and violence is when people have a problem with it. Saying "I hear Sandra hit reply all on an email to the whole firm asking to be taken off the distro, lolz" is fine. Saying "Did you see Sandra's dress today? If I wouldn't get hell from HR I would've hit that a long time ago." is a problem, cause it suggests her consent isn't important and that "HR" is the only thing stopping him from taking what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 06:45 PM
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I would disagree, because they are at least having the conversation, if the statistic came out that only 1/10 women on college campuses are being raped, alot less people would care. Even though thats thousands of women, the stat isn't as eye catching. Society these days only pays attention to crisis, and they ignore the larger, but more mundane atrocities. So by combining those stats the issue gets the attention it deserves. The same thing happens across all issues you see in the media, Islamic …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 03:04 PM
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There are people who will argue just about anything, and some of them might even be feminists, that doesn't make feminism bad, or even responsible for the stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:30 PM
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Who is excusing their behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 07:24 PM
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Thats a false dichotomy, its not "rape" or a bum touch, alot of it is between full penetration and wondering hands while dancing. By including both you come to understand that this culture of ignoring consent (across instances) is pervasive at colleges. Grabbing bums at bars is a gateway sexual assault, you heard it here first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 07:16 PM
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Because there has only been that push within the last few years <5 and it takes over a decade for the kids that get exposed to that to get to college, graduate and get a job. Its not gonna happen overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 09:05 PM
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If an average man lived in a populated city/town and went out multiple times a week and didn't care about being attracted to his partners I'm sure he could maintain these numbers for a time. But no one wants to have sex if there is NO physical attraction, so this is an unrealistic scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 08:45 PM
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If he had no standards of attractiveness and lived in a well populated city I don't see that being too ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 08:40 PM
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Its a negative trait, instilling fear in those you are supposed to love. I would argue that the church rightfully looks down on terrorizing others in the community, which is why you haven't seen it as much as.. idk the trailer park?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 04:05 PM
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Genuine masculinity forces women to respect men because NOT doing so could endanger them, frankly. Thats not respect, thats fear and intimidation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 03:54 PM
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Just as if a man was attacking him. Stop the attack while trying to minimize injury for both parties. If the woman has a knife and is welding it skillfully, pick up a bat and knock her out. But if shes unarmed and weak and you have the ability to just hold her hands and no one gets hurt, do that. I wasn't responding to the original question, more to the specific comment I replied to. Men shouldn't be shamed for defending themselves, thats part of toxic masculinity. The fact people think a "man" …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 06:26 PM
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"Equal" doesnt mean its open season on women. We can have equality and still want to protect women, and men. Why do anti-feminists insist on equality = allowed to prey on women cause men don't need to protect them anymore. Men, and women should protect all humans regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:18 PM
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Dude idk what to tell you, Im only 5 6 and have dated girls my height and taller. None have had an issue with my height. I mean obviously there have been ones who are discouraged by my height. I don't date them. Just keep trying different girls, from different walks of life, youll find your niche soon enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:45 PM
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Try dating girls that are 5'4" and below.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:36 PM
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Human growth hormone, if you take it during puberty you can get taller than if you dont take it. But it doesnt work once you are through your growth spurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:36 PM
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Well being nice is attractive, but it can't be your only attractive thing. Like if you did have an education and management experience but didn't show up to work on time, you'd also probably get fired. You need it all. Being nice isn't a handicap, but if its your only positive feature its not going to get you anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:58 PM
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Thats not dumb as fuck. Thats how you get consent. You can't just do something like that and hope its cool later. Thats like me going up to you and planting a big kiss on you and hoping you are cool with it. Now imagine that Im a huge Arnold S. looking dude and I push you up against the wall and kiss you. You might be a bit afraid to tell me no wouldn't you? Thats why you ask before you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 01:09 PM
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I know it sounds like something corny that adults say to kids on their first day of school, but honestly youll only be hurt by other people if you respect there opinions. If you are open and honest to someone and they use that to try and hurt you, then their opinion of you isnt worth you caring about it. Obviously that works better for people you just met. Im not talking about someone you dated for years and turns on you. Thats just the hard part of life. But when meeting people for the first ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 05:50 PM
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No its incredibly shallow here. But most people will be honest if you tell them to be honest with you. They might end up being honest about being shallow, but at least you know then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 05:46 PM
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Which is why we need to ostracize the ones that fuck it up. If you see someone who takes consent lightly, tell them thats not ok, call them out. In the end everyone (except the rapists) will be much better off for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 05:46 PM
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So lets change that. Stop playing games, find other people who are fed up with playing games and be honest with them. Tell them you want to stop the games and you refuse to play them. Some wont understand and will leave but others will agree and youll end up having much better relationships, built on honesty and openness. Not just romantic relationships either but all. Be the change you want to see!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:59 PM
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Oh alright, you scared me. Obviously there will always be rapists and murderers and what not. But if we start to educate men and change the cultural perception of consent, more men will realize what they think is ok is not. And that will hopefully stop at least some of the rape that is going on right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:56 PM
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All around in the DC area as well as Baltimore. Can't say for anywhere else but I'd bet its not much different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:54 PM
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"Harms way", by this you mean your bedroom? Because if a "No" doesnt get you to stop then you are the harm that would come to them. What would you suggest for them to stay out of your way?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:52 PM
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I know you are being sarcastic, but actually yeah thats about how it goes. Without the awkward wording of the third line albeit, but yeah thats what consent is supposed to sound like. I think that many men are afraid that if they break "the mood" a woman might say no or something, its literally never happened to me that a woman said no because I asked for explicit consent. In fact most of them say they really appreciate me asking for it so forwardly. If you can't talk about sex candidly then you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:51 PM
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Why wait for women to change when you can be the change yourself. Stop pursuing women that play those games. Hold yourself to a higher standard and you will find yourself with women that do as well. If we play the game that TRP says all women play then itll never get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 02:35 PM
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Choking and dominating a woman is perfectly fine as long as you have explicit consent to do so. How is that hard to understand? If she doesn't ask for it or at least say yes when you ask to do it, then its rape. If she does ask or say yes, then its not. That simple
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 02:32 PM
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Know better? You mean know that you are going to keep pushing no matter if they say no or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 02:30 PM
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Women, but the arguement that others are making is if men would stop slut shaming women for sleeping around then this wouldnt be the case. Women are told constantly growing up and through all avenues of culture that they need to protect their virginity and purity. This causes the issue of women being the gate keepers and men trying to open that gate. If we just taught our children (girls and guys) from an early age that sex is great and there is no stigma associated then the whole gatekeeper thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 03:17 PM
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Its very possible. Live in a large city, have a good job, be attractive and your 20's can easily be like this life. I can't speak for your 30's and beyond cause I haven't gotten there yet, but I imagine it probably gets a little harder as most of the other people your age are typically married or at least settled down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 01:21 PM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 12:56 PM
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But you should get some consent before you shove your thumb up her butt, like how would you feel if a girl shoved her thumb up your butt without asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:45 PM
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Or have weird kinky sex where both parties want it. Problem also solved :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:43 PM
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Parents, teachers, friends, other students, TV shows, toy companies. Culture, it's stronger than you think
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 04:40 PM
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Oh, most definitely. The issue is alot of adults don't realize that those gender norms exist or are harmful so they continue to uphold them, which in turn hurts their childrens ability to have more opportunities when they grow up. So we need to teach and convince adults that gender norms are hurtful to women so young girls get legos and blocks of wood for Christmas instead of just barbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 06:33 PM
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Why do you think you were curious of how things worked? Just coincidence, or because males are just naturally more inclined to be curious?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 03:18 PM
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I'm studying engineering - there is literally no reason that 80%+ of my class is male, other than the fact that women don't want to work as hard. What about girls being discouraged from learning science and math from an early age? Encouraged to focus on reading and writting instead of spacial visualization like boys? I grew up with legos and building blocks and when i was old enough real tools and stuff to build. While my girl cousins were given barbies and makeup and books. You dont think this …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 02:24 PM
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I would venture to guess because of two things. 1. They are illegal and most of the stuff TRP endorses isn't illegal so the president is to avoid illegal recommendations 2. Not everyone has the same viewpoint of drugs being good for "self improvement" as you. Of all my friends that do drugs, none of them have improved their lives from it, and the majority of them have seen significant decreases in their quality of life. (Spending money and time on drugs instead of social life, loosing jobs, drop…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:43 PM
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No its the self improvement in order to have the casual sex that TRP endorses
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:39 PM
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That is the prefered, Im sure most of the women that prefer pic one would go for you before the skinny guys. Its just that the body builder isnt the TOP pick for women that like muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 07:11 PM
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This is a ridiculous comment. You can approach a woman respectfully without worry of a sexual harassment accusation. How is consent so hard for RP to understand? Just don't do anything without getting permission first. Go up to girl, introduce yourself, if she responds thats permission to continue the interaction. Ask her to dance or whatever you want, if she says yes then you have consent for dancing. Later, ask her if she want so have sex, if she says yes you have consent for that. Is it that …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 02:30 PM
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Thats about privileged people becomign billionaires, not poor people becoming middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 04:48 AM
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I realize that, but are you really ok with people who are trying to make a living starving or being homeless or not able to get medical care? Is that a country you are proud to be a part of, one that lets people go without basic human needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 11:41 PM
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But at least we can work to combat special interest groups because the government is SUPPOSED to work for us (i realize thats idealistic) but companies and private citizens have zero incentive to provide for the public well being.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:52 PM
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but I also wouldn't expect someone to raise a family on a McDonald's pay check. But people are trying to, because they couldn't get an education that qualifies them for anything else. There are a ton of people that do low/no skill labor as their career job. Those people shouldn't be starving, or homeless, or go into massive debt if they have a medical emergency. They aren't lazy, they are working 40+ hrs just like many of us, just not getting paid enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:51 PM
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Because living with the bare minimum is miserable, so people would work so they can have luxuries and wants, not just needs. If you want to pay for that weed and alcohol then youll need work. If you want entertainment like TV or transportation like a car. Then youll need to work for it. Do you really think everyone would be satisfied with the bare minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:48 PM
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So lets fix the education system. That argument sounds like "Hey what we have aint working, lets not fix it, lets just get rid of it" Instead of just pointing at all the failed programs we have and complaining, why not try to fix them and make them work for us again?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:56 PM
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No I don't need to work for it. You have to give it to me. It's my right, my entitlement under YOUR system. Thats not at all what we are saying. Thats not the system that we are proposing. We are proposing a system where basic human needs like food, basic clothing, healthcare, and basic housing are rights. This doesnt mean luxuries or anything other than the bare minimum is a right, that you have to earn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:52 PM
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Thats great that you have enough extra income to afford those insurance policies but some people don't make enough. When the decision is feeding your self dinner this week or paying for this insurance policy that you might not use, people usually pick the food
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:48 PM
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They subsidized birth control for tons of poor women... That was like one of their biggest things..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:45 PM
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Making the market freer would only allow the rich to take even more control. The poor and middle class would have nearly no power in a market where money talks and has no restrictions. EDIT: Also, the "Hard working" and "Lazy" dichotomy isnt true. There are many people that would love to work but do not have the ability or skills to get work that one can truely live on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:16 PM
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When the system is already set up in the rich persons favor and the options are either change the system to give everyone equal footing or work around it. I would rather they change the system than break in and steal my shit. If you haven't realized America is a pay to win country and if you are born into a family that has really any means at all it give you such a large head start ahead of people born into poor families.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:09 PM
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What would your definition be then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 02:08 AM
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Feminist definition of rape? From dictionary.com: unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim. Gonna tell me dictionary.com is feminist propaganda now? Its all about consent, its always been about consent, now a bunch of guys are crying that they cant get away with the rape they used to get away with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 10:42 PM
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What? No for rape to occur one person has to do something to the other without their consent. What you just said is extremely concerning and detrimental to stopping rapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 09:23 PM
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Or just stop when they say no and get away from a woman that doesn't take a NO in the bedroom seriously. Unless you talk explicitly about a safeword other than NO, NO should not be used as a taunt or play. Its like shouting fire in a movie theater.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 09:20 PM
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You are using the fact that there are other suffering groups as an arguement that we shouldn't help the originally specified suffering group. They are unrelated because the aid that is going to Group B wasn't going to Group A either way. They are separate conversations. We have the ability to help the refugees and if we don't many will die, if we do then our economy might suffer. Personally I would weigh peoples lives higher than the health of the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 08:01 PM
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What you are doing for the children in africa to help them from dying of hunger? Thats just misdirection. Its not like the resources are being taken away from those starving kids to help refugees. This isnt a question of who deserves it more, its a question of what can we do right now to help anyone that is hurting. And right now, we can take in refugees. We can also send food to hungry kids in africa, but thats a discussion for another thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 06:13 PM
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Now let's look at refugees. Does the benefits (questionable) of refugees outweigh potential crime and rape? The economic benefits are questionable at best. Did you ever think to consider the benefits for the refugees, like not being killed by ISIS or another terror group? I feel like peoples lives should be weighed heavier against "economic benefit"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 05:34 PM
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It would be the other women that are lying, all the feminists Ive been with are open and honest about that kind of stuff. Its the women that still hold onto social stigmas and "standards" that are the ones that are ashamed to say their N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 10:07 PM
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Except that most rapes aren't by strangers. They are by "friends" or acquaintances. So it isn't as easy to identify the threat before its too late. In order to answer your original question, don't have relations with anyone you dont trust, and always go for enthuesiatic consent. Sure some random woman you bought a drink for at the bar could claim you raped her, just like I could claim you robbed me. Its just like any other crime in that way, and unfortunately that just something you have to deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 01:26 PM
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alpha widows? sorry I dont really know the lingo flung around this sub at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:17 PM
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alpha widows? sorry I dont really know the lingo flung around this sub at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:17 PM
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Is that just sex, or oral also, or what? Im not really sure what people consider N count to be
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:13 PM
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I recently ran into my first encounter in the real world with n count. A girl Ive been seeing doesnt want to go all the way because I would put her over a threshold she doesnt want to cross. She went to a catholic school so that has something to do with it, but until now Ive never even mentioned it to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:12 PM
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Sure confidence will make you more attractive but when I say personality I don't mean alpha vs beta or confident vs drag of a guy. When I say personality I mean things like outdoor person vs city person, netflix and pizza night vs going out to clubs kind of person, republican vs democrat. The stuff that you consider when you choose friends. Imagine if you would still hang out with that person if they were your same gender. If you would then your personalities mesh, if you would hate them and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 01:52 PM
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You are looking for a one size fits all linear step by step manual on how to fix relationships. I can't offer you one because I don't believe one exists. If communication isn't solving your dead br then you can try dread while keeping communication about your wants and needs open. If by the end of dread sex is getting better but the talking is hurting your relationship then you might want to reconsider your relationship. Sounds like you don't actually get along. Basically relationships need mult…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:30 PM
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No, you asked that if the open communication is the issue then it wont work. But if she isn't attracted physically then working out and dressing better will work, if its a few other things then dread will work. But in the end if your personalities don't mesh then communication will always create issues for your relationship. Just because talking didn't help doesn't mean talking is the issue. It could just not be the solution. If your personalities mesh but there isn't physical attraction then ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:07 PM
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If being open and honest is causing issues in the relationship then you two aren't meant to be together. Essentially that means that your true personalities don't mesh. So you can either act like someone you aren't in order to make the relationship work or break up and find someone who will like you for who you naturally are. If you think your partner is worth changing who you are then go for it. But its gonna be hard to keep it up constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:47 PM
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Obviously you need honest and open communication at all times, without it would become manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 12:47 PM
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Alright I will continue to not believe you. Thanks for your contribution to the dialog.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:19 PM
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Always? Dude if you are going to make claims like that you are gonna need to show some evidence other than your own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:45 PM
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Well when you put it like that it doesn't seem bad to me at all. It seems like you are just being honest about your needs and wants. And are willing to change your situation when things seem past repair. Dread game has such a dark and sinister ring to it and the way some Terpers here utilize it seems way more dishonest and manipulative. But this write up sounds like something I would do in a sexless marriage, first talk to her, then make yourself more attractive, if that doesnt work show her you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:01 PM
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TURKEY!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:25 PM
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Do you mean free drinks? Stop buying women drinks if you expect something back from them. If you think women are using sex to "buy" things from men, (or the false promise of sex) then stop giving women stuff in hopes for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:33 PM
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I usually hold my bathroom needs through work meetings and other social engagements until socially appropriate to go to a restroom. I also wait to eat when food is available and socially acceptable. I will stay up late or wake up early when I need to be available for something. So yeah it does work on other biological urges..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:45 PM
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Saying stop violence isn't any actionable slogan, by qualifying it to stop violence against women, the movement can focus on specific issues that mostly effect women and therefor can be more effective. If the MRA platform picked up a stance of "Stop domestic violence against men" I would get behind that, and I would bet/hope that it would receive support. (Im sure there would be descenters but thats with any issue)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 01:09 PM
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You must live in the mid west. I think Cbus probably lives on the east coast, where, no people don't just say Hi to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 01:22 PM
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You think so? I would think that wall street would be very pro marriage and old money type values
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:31 PM
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The population is <10% gay, also it just goes to show that men are the issue here. Can I see the stats for that? And are you talking about all assaults or sexual assaults. The last two points are exactly the issue. You are saying that because men want more sex they don't understand when women don't want to be sexualized. It doesn't matter if you dont understand why they don't like it. If they ask you to stop, then stop. If a women looks uncomfortable with the way you are treating her you might w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:16 PM
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Im really happy for her, its great that she was able to pull out of that slump. Any suggestions for someone in that slump now?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:58 PM
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I don't understand where the redpill gets the idea that women are treated better than men. Sure they might get a few drinks bought for them at bars or have doors held for them. But in return they have to deal with men grinding up on them on the dance floor. Called lewd remarks walking down the street, and generally not seen as anything more than a sexual object. Redpill says it plainly, that women only obtain value through their looks while men can gain value through basically having a fulfillin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:56 PM
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Im not saying it can't be done. But the social structures at that age make it ALOT harder than in your younger years. Obviously there are people that will just be able to make friends whatever the situation, but for the people that need help to make friends it just gets really hard as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:41 PM
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What do you mean irrelevant shit? Harassment and being treated like a second class human aren't irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:36 PM
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I feel like you are being sarcastic, but honestly what you said is fairly true for most of the adults I know in their 50s-60s (My parents and friends parents). The ones that are still married are doing alright. The ones that are divorced or widowed are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:25 PM
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Silicon valley is not really a good example of the rest of the country socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:23 PM
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Do you think Hank Aaron and the early black athletes just accepted that they were looked down on or do you think they actively pushed to change the stigma against them? Thats what feminism is now. Its a movement to change the stigma that women are less than men. (In addition to a few legal concerns like abortion rights and sexual violence) But mostly its about educating people about the social inequality, not so much legal inequality, that women face. Hopefully once people are educated, their em…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 01:34 PM
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As a lawyer or as the defendant? Either way a huge rush I can assume but very different reasons..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 06:38 PM
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I stand by my statement about a woman that is obviously drunk (but not passed out) being coerced into a sexual situation. Sometimes all you need is someone who is clear minded (not drunk) to talk to you in a serious tone to get you back to a clearer state of mind. I do the same thing when my drunk guy friends are about to do something stupid like drive home or sleep with their ex. EDIT: I understand that you see that as treating women as less than men because I am defending them when I wouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:31 PM
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If the woman is very drunk I would at least ask her if she thinks she is sober enough to make these decisions. Possibly a better example would be a guy that is harassing a woman that is trying to get away from him then I would probably intervene.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 08:40 PM
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You don't need to be a die hard altruist to stop a guy from taking advantage of a woman thats too drunk. If I saw someone breaking into a car and I didn't feel personally threatened I would try to stop them. You just need to have empathy. I wouldn't expect or even hope that the car owner pays me for saving their car but if they wanted to reward me I wouldn't turn them down (probably not).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 08:10 PM
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Im a dude, so I doubt that would work. But just because someone does something without EXPECTING anything back doesn't mean they would turn down a reward. Its bad when they do it expecting something back. And yeah I will agree with you that many WKs are expecting something in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 07:56 PM
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Or a man can genuinely care about how a women is treated, without any ulterior motives...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 07:10 PM
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*Some men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 07:07 PM
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If you need someone to talk to about your problems feel free to message me. I feel like you aren't in a great place and could probably use a pick me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 04:08 PM
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I know a few guys that are the same exact way about the women they date. They want a women that is at least at attractive, at least as physically fit, and are just as financially stable as they are. They don't find many women that meet all their standards but they are fine with waiting. Me on the other hand will settle just so I have someone, while I look for someone that I think is worth a LTR. It just goes to show, some people settle, some people only reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:33 PM
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Depends on the prenup, if you are so worried about it then you should get a good lawyer to write an airtight prenup. Honestly, it would be a shame that the fear of the possibility of being screwed over financially would prevent you from committing romantically to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 06:18 PM
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Things such as alimony, loss off half of assets, child support, etc. Loss of Half of assets isn't really an unfair thing is the women is providing half of the combined income, as for child support, damn straight I would help provide financially for my children. If you are worried about loosing financially in a divorce get a prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:04 PM
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I would hope she's got a count at least in the double digits by 25. 8 wouldn't be bad but anything less than 5 by age 25 would imply to me, that she isn't comfortable with sex, hasn't explored/tried many things in sex, or is undesirable to men for some reason. Plus I wouldn't want too much of a difference between my number and hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:59 PM
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If she finished all of them then she must be amazing at blow jobs, so yeah that would be AWESOME. As long as she meets my other non sexual criteria for a partner (smart, fun, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:54 PM
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Im really sorry that that is the case. Like I said, I consider myself fairly average so I dont observe the group of women that you must be looking at much. Are you in a geographic that has many more men than women? Like I know while I was in college studying Engineering all the engineering girls had their pick of guys simply because of supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 06:29 PM
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How would being a woman give me more privilege? If your definition of moral is different in this situation then please explain it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 05:51 PM
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You were almost right at the end there. Im actually a white, suburban, hetero, male, born into a christian family. So I am part of the most privileged group in the world. Which is why when I say things like "Dont you want to change the world from being sexist" it is true empathy. I have zero self interest in that statement, in fact I have much to lose from it. But I realize that it is not fair to the under priviledged to continue culture as it is, therefor I want to change it. I am happy for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 03:05 PM
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So I don't have much experience with this case as I identify as a pretty average man. But do you really think that there isnt a lowest women for the lowest man? And again, due to personal preference you may be the lowest to one women but far from lowest for another. I think there is a women for everyone but being at the bottom end there are just less options (because a 10 guy can date 1-10s while a 1 guy can probably only date 1-2 girls)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 02:59 PM
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Changing reality is too much work? Thats the root of the problem, because you are on the priviledged sign of the status quo you wont work to change it because you dont have empathy for those less fortunate. As for black crime rates, what does that have to do with racism?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:49 PM
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Find a nice "bottom of the barrel" girl that has the same interests as you and date. I have empathy for men that dont cut it in the dating and sex market but everyone has to date around the same level as themselves. Obviously there is a little wiggle room based on personal preferences, but if you look like jonas hill you arent dating scarlet j, unless you are actually jonas hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:47 PM
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And you dont want to change that? Thats what people were saying about racism before the 60's and things have gotten way better for minorities since then. I realize that people are sexist, thats what we should be working on to change, and to start you could change your opinion of the word "slut".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 12:49 PM
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Why is slut a word for women only? Doesn't that seem sexist to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 12:40 PM
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But I mean do you care if your number goes over your threshold?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 07:54 PM
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So you must be looking to settle down with your last one soon or youll go over your threshold right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 07:45 PM
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You can judge them on their intelligence, looks, humor, shared interests. Whats wrong with a women just wanting to have sex and not settle down, Im assuming you have no problems with a man wanting to just have sex and not settle down. What do you mean "Used up?" Women don't have a number of times they can have sex in their lives and then have to stop. Thats not how biology works.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:51 PM
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I don't think lying about your partner count itself would be sexual assault, I don't think its ok but I wouldn't say its sexual assault. But if you lied about being clean of STDs then I would say that could be sexual assault. If someone lying about partner count to cover up having an STD then I could see that being sexual assault as well. But without the STD thing I wouldn't say partner count should be sexual assault, just unmoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 09:23 PM
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I know you were answering someone elses message but Im gonna jump in here. What if someone omited they had an STD before sex? Would that be considered sexual assault, or if a man lied about being infertile (vasectomy or something) or a women lied about being on BC in order to get pregnant and then the man is legally on the hook for the child. I think certain information being omited or lied about should be considered sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:57 PM
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That is the same thing. The feminist movement is about equality, contrary to what all TRPers here think. Just because there are a few bad feminists that preach and practice some bullshit warped ideas don't think that the rest of us want women above men. We want them to be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 04:49 PM
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See the thing is, femenists believe that culture is effecting people's choices in a harmful way. Like when girls are brought up they are told to play with barbies and dolls, while boys are told to rough house and play with legos. Who do you think is going to want to grow up to be an engineer, or some blue collar physically demanding job? The one that rolled in the mud and played with legos. Yes, those women have the free choice to decide to be an engineer if they want but why would they if durin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:45 PM
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I would tell him that doing nice things for women doesn't entitle him toa romantic relationship. But if they don't respect him for the effort he is putting in and just using him then they aren't worth the time. In order to become intimate with girls I would say that confidence is key, as well as being up front with his intentions. If he is interested in a girl, go tell her that. You can flirt and whatnot for an ice breaker but shortly after meeting her you should ask her out for a date so that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:18 PM
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I guess thats where we differ in ideals because I think thats a good thing. If everyone is competing against everyone else then you will get the best possible person for the job. If a women happens to have "masculine" traits but isnt appreciated for those traits just because she is a women then her skills are being wasted
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:10 PM
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Why can't we teach women that "virtues like strength, resiliency, courage, and the ability to master one's emotions, will always make a woman more valuable as a member of the group"? I agree that we should promote good character traits and virtues but those traits should be segregated between men and women, traits like confidence, courage, logic and decision making are good traits for either men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:35 PM
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Gay men would disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 01:31 PM
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Right, MRI's aren't cheap. There are a ton of babies every year. Still a huge cost to either the gov or low income families
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 12:57 PM
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Cost, for many with health insurance its no big deal but for someone who doesn't have health insurance a test like that could be a huge problem financially, and if you put it on the state to pay it would add up to a huge amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 09:20 PM
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Firstly, Im really sorry people have ruined feminism for you. That sucks and it hurts both of us. Secondly, Im sure that there are plenty of great things in your life. Didn't you mention you are at college, thats something alot of people don't get the opportunity to do, enjoy it. I wish I had enjoyed my time in college more. (im not talking as a feminist here just as a person) Lastly, I think that just because you feel good about doing something for others doesn't make it dis-genuine. You can do…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 06:34 PM
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That might be a little farfetched don't you think? But to take this back to the beginning, do you see how you immediately turned to how you perceive feminism not helping you (im assuming you are male), instead of asking how it can help others? Is it so hard for you to just want to help others because they need to help, or do you really need to directly benefit from it? Feminism is helping people in all walks of life with many issues, but you immediately focus on the perceived holes in the moveme…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 05:49 PM
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Even when we do acheive some success we get bad press. Women getting more access to the military That was a 15 second google search. Im sure you can find more if you looked. The issue is that the media portray the exciting stories like "fraternity rapes coeds" because they will get viewership but "Man becomes stay at home dad, while wife makes family wage" doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 05:36 PM
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I said very few, not none. And feminists are fighting for alot of these things to change. Feminism promotes men being caretakers for their children if they want. Thats one of the huge benefits I personally get from feminism, as a guy who wants to eventually be a father very involved with my children. As for dating and courtship, feminism promotes equality there with things like encouraging women to take initiative and ask out men, split the check, own their sexuality and initiate physical intera…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 05:20 PM
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Paternity leave is a part of many feminists agendas, unfortunately there isn't much that women have on men historically..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 04:22 PM
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Equality is THE feminist value, equality between everyone. Thats the true point of the movement. Like I said, there are a few bad actors that detract from that ultimate goal and thats why the word feminism puts such a bad taste in many peoples mouths but in actuality if you think men and women should be equal then you are a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 03:54 PM
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They are, this group is fighting for alot of feminist values and are gaining footholds in the government there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 01:40 PM
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There are always bad apples in any movement, but instead of constantly pointing out the few so called "feminists" that "hold down man" listen to the movement and as whole and realize that feminism is really about equality across all genders, races, socio economical classes, religions, and sexual orientations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 01:37 PM
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Which is why we need feminism, not all women are feminists, and alot of women go against feminist values, like equality. But with feminism hopefully more women will be happy to be the bread winner of the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 01:33 PM
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Did your parents make your breakfast, lunch, dinner or did you do that yourself? I made breakfast, bought school lunch and dinner was usually made by parents (I would cook dinner maybe once a week in high school) Did your parent do your laundry or did you do that yourself? Parents did laundry I would fold it Did they help you with your homework? They couldn't help me with any of my math and science since middle school but earlier years they would make sure I did it. Did they care about your grad…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 02:48 PM
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I am definitely someone that looks for systems, its literally my job. It would make life alot easier if all relationships followed a system, but it would also make them super boring. I've dated around alot over the last few years and frankly haven't been happy with any of them but recently I found one that I am happy with, because this woman is different than the women I've been with recently. She isn't at all the way TRP describes the perfect woman and thats what makes her fun. Of course there …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 03:56 PM
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Im not saying there aren't patterns Im just saying that there is a range of characteristics that make someone successful in relationships, not one example of the "perfect male" that TRP would have all men strive to become. Use your natural strengths when dating, if you are funny, be funny. If you are smart, be smart. If you are naturally a strong silent type, then be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 03:51 PM
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Firstly I really liked your post, now when you saying you want an alternative I'm assuming you mean a step by step guide similar to TRP for men to achieve having a relationship? I think the issue here is that there relationships don't have a walk through guide. Each relationship is different, each women and man is different and there is no one sure fire way to start and foster a health relationship. That being said there are some fairly universal things that help, many of which TRP address, such…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 02:42 PM
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Compromise isn't an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 01:42 PM
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Im not saying go to a sports bar and ask women there if they like video games. Im saying participate in social things that you enjoy and find people at those events. That way you have something in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 01:42 PM
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I mean make friends with girls with no other motives. This will not only make him less lonely but also build confidence speaking with women and help him understand women better. Then apply those leanings and confidence to new women, while maintaining friendship with original friend women. Bonus: Friend women can typically help man with future love interests with a woman's perspective. Understanding and empathy always help relationships, it allows one to be more emotionally supportive, it helps o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 01:40 PM
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Not that I am offering up any alternate reasons but is there any evidence supporting the causation and not just the correlation with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:37 PM
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I have no idea, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:33 PM
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I'm assuming you mean romantic attraction when referring to love here, and as weak and undesirable Im assuming you are going by TRP's description (correct me if those are wrong). But I will say that there are other forms of love, and each person will consider different traits/characteristics "weak" or "undesirable". When I said love and compassion I meant as a human being, not as a potential romantic partner. Love for your fellow humans is what makes society worth living in. But I don't know wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:02 PM
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So do you think that war in itself is a good thing? Don't you think that we should strive for a society that reduces conflicts in order to reduce violence and therefor death? I admit that conflict will always occur but it can be reduced through understanding and empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:44 PM
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While I agree with most of the suggestions here about improving hygene, appearance and whatnot. Find a women that enjoys the same things as you. If you like gaming, find a gamer girl. If you like comics, go to cons and find a girl that is enjoying your hobbies. Make friends with girls without the intention of being in a romantic relationship with them in order to build confidence with talking to women as well as building understanding and empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:24 PM
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Why do you say that hatred is the healthiest human urge there is? I feel like love or compassion for fellow man (i mean man kind not males) would be the healthiest
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:20 PM
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So why are guys like me actually that way already? Am I ignoring my primal instincts or am I evolved past that? I mean don't get me wrong I like my women to look a certain way, but factors like being able to hold a conversation or being driven play a huge role in their over all attractiveness for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:04 PM
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Unpleasant truths right there. The only reason that those things may be remotely true is because people like like believe they are. If a man doesn't take the RP or subscribe to its beliefs then they can be attracted to women because of status/education/intelligence. Also they may not mind that a women has slept with as many if not more people than they have, even if that number may seem large to some people. If people in society stopped believing that those things mattered then those arbitrary r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:51 PM
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How am I victim blaming? I am talking about two consenting adults, not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:53 PM
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You are saying that like men are powerless in saying if sex happens or not. Sex doesn't happen unless a man wants it to either. Its not like men are powerless to have sex with any women that opens their legs to them. Sex is a decision that two people make, they should both carry the responsibility. Is that too much to ask? Before birth control, I'm assuming women had more births and miscarriages (due to lack of medical stuff). I don't really know where you are going with that comment..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:55 PM
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Convincing the man to not use a condom, how is this not the man's fault? If the man doesn't want to have a child, he should utilize the one form of protection he has at his disposal. We are talking about consenting participants here, he always has a choice to either not have sex, or to wear a condom. Why do you make the distinction between the decision to have sex and have a baby? If you have sex there is a chance you will get pregnant. Once pregnant the choice is between an abortion, and having…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:53 PM
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Being promiscuous is a choice, having a penis isn't (no I'm not going to address sex changes). Please keep don't try to derail a good conversation with comments like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:31 PM
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Do you not see that without child support, women take ALL of the responsibility for sex. Even in a situation where both parties consented, were protected, but both parties did not want a child, in the case that the women gets pregnant, she faces all of the consequences. She either has to go through an abortion or have a child that she then needs to care for financially and as a parent. I understand that you say life is not fair, but this seems a little lopsided if you ask me. The decision to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:11 PM
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That is very unfortunate that your ex lied to you like that, but that is ONE woman. If that happened to me, I would be furious with THAT girl not the whole female population. They may have more options but many of them either don't protect from diseases or fuck with their hormones, while condoms are simple, effective, cheap and don't have many side effects. I think we both can agree that men shouldn't be able to force a women to have a medical procedure on their body they didn't want. So would y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:20 PM
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You are saying those things like they are absolutes but I don't see any evidence to support those claims, please enlighten me. As for the child support thing, he decided to have sex with her, he decided to not wear a condom. He had plenty of say in the matter. Equality isn't about being the same, its about being treated equally, and no I do not mean like the 60's "seperate but equal" bullshit. The apple and the orange can be treated equally during growth, harvesting, transportation and sale. Doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:00 PM
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You are comparing promiscious women to dog shit, and women having sex to men farting inside her. Do you not see how that could be seen as mean or non empathetic? I wonder, do you consider yourself a promiscuous person? If so then its fairly hypocritical of yourself to judge women for being the same way. If not, then leave those women for men who don't judge them and go find yourself a women who values non-promiscuity just as much as you do. That shouldn't be an issue as there seems to be more of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:37 PM
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So are AMALT? Because I know plenty of dudes that are terrible at making friends and then some dudes make friends with everyone. So whats the strategy at being good at making friends, is there a pill for that?
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 05:48 PM
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I think that "just be yourself" isn't talking about hygene, kindness, and genearl demenor. I think it applies more to if you like videos games and tv don't go telling people you are a dare devil that goes sky diving on the weekends. You should always strive to be better looking, better smelling, and a better person, just do it in a way that you enjoy, not a way you think will attract more (member of gender you like).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 07:03 PM
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