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Autistic women mask to a far greater extent than autistic men because they are socialised from the get go to be more agreeable and friendly in ways that men aren't. Women certainly aren't liked for their directness, far less their bluntness. And Aspergers as a term isn't used anymore. There's lots of research that has been done on this. You needn't be making stuff up on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:46 PM
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Emotion Regulation and Emotional Intelligence are very different things and the fact that you aren't aware of that kind of underlines the point about women having higher EQ lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:57 PM
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I'm definitely not discounting that it's becoming popular as an ideology, we've had 2 attacks allegedly with the impetus of 'incel culture' here in the UK alone. My dismissal is due to the cherry-picked bad-science which lies at its foundation. There's a lot of very popular ideas based on nonsense of course. I understand that it's something to cling to in times of hopelessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:57 PM
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I love it when people quote parts of a comment that's one or two sentences long as if I won't know what you're referring to. Further to that you could much quicker refer to what I said in your own sentence. Also smacks of taking all of this far too seriously lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:04 PM
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I have no interest in what 'Red Pillers' think, the ideology is based on complete nonsense. My comment is about the fact that her accomplishments aren't mentioned in any description of Lauren, for or against clown-piller logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:35 PM
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Err, she's pretty accomplished too! "She is a licensed pilot and founder of Black Ops Aviation, an aerial film and production company." Stop being so ridiculously shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:55 PM
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Nah - there's tonnes of very attractive men out there who are as thick as shit and incapable of proper conversation, they're just as unlikely to get into a relationship with me as your category 1s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:35 PM
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Would they now. Have you heard of lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 08:50 AM
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Do you have a realistic and adequately nuanced assessment of women's behaviour and motivations that isn't plucked straight out of an evolutionary psychology textbook? Lol. Didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 08:49 AM
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The majority of the Western world's population are overweight or obese and are also in romantic relationships. Rather than trying to put words in my mouth, can you elaborate on what you mean and own your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:05 PM
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Do you think women orient all their life choices towards increasing the likelihood of getting a man? The narcissism is off the scale lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:57 PM
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'Coaching someone into being a human being or an adult'? Where are you getting this from? Coaching means the same thing in both professional and personal life. You clearly have a story that you've fabricated for yourself around this which is quite different from anything generally understood about the term. So I don't think there's much point continuing to try and find common ground which evidently doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:01 PM
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I would say that's very much a problem with perception rather than the word itself. The most powerful leaders in the world receive coaching on a regular basis. However, as someone who works in a talking profession myself I'd be quite reluctant to engage in any coaching with someone in my personal life because I'm not being paid and it's not necessarily appropriate. If the guy requires coaching then he should be paying for his own outside the relationship. Coaching is a weird choice of word but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:02 AM
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Tell me something I don't know :) However, OP has written as if to assume that the 'coaching' is unwanted 'mental abuse' as default. It's a load of nonsense, there's no two ways about it let's be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:49 AM
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How did you get from 'coaching or improving him' to 'mental abuse and degrading'? Emotional support isn't abusive, you sound incredibly confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:38 PM
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Excuse me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:13 PM
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I'd be angry if I had a ring shoved through my septum too!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:11 PM
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Sure, there is no reason for women to be compelled to change traditions that benefit them and I don't think most men would want changes either. That doesn't change the fact that there are women 'irl' that like to buck trends and that this is happening moreso these days. I agree that on the whole women need to reach a certain stage of emotional security in a relationship before they feel safe enough to and have the inclination to behave romantically towards a male partner. And this makes sense. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 07:29 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:29 PM
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Look, I'm not the only person who was misled by the way you've set this post up and for that you only have yourself to blame. There's nothing to be gained from going on about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:04 PM
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I think the problem is that you're seeing this interaction as a potential argument whereas I'm not. I did not take any 'shots' at you. I simply pointed something out as interesting. I have indeed addressed your post in its entirety including points about how even lesser people have their own matches. I think you need to loosen up a bit :) Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:20 PM
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Your title literally says what makes a woman a bad woman. I'm sorry if me pointing that out makes you feel defensive but it's no reason to project the issue onto me. I'm aware that I went slightly off topic at the end but such is life. It's my study area and I enjoy talking about these things. Maybe come back when you're able to converse with a level head.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:04 PM
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It's interesting that you understand a bad person to mean not a good potential partner and assume everyone else makes the same connection. People with widely understood negative traits still have their matches in the opposite and same sex, depending on their sexuality. Universally a poor choice of female partner might be a woman who's 'high maintenence', a gold digger, unfaithful, jealous, 'psycho', needy, controlling.. but for each individual there will be large variation is who is good / right…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:29 PM
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Surely it's something of a bell curve lol, otherwise the most successful women in dating would be anorexic. Men are subconsciously attracted to signs of health and fertility, physically, and a partner who is willing and capable of meeting their goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:58 PM
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Women are definitely romantic within the relationship itself in my experience. What you're talking a lot about here is the tendency for men to pursue the woman in the first instance and the tradition of the man proposing. Although more women are proposing these days than before, in heterosexual relationships. The 'woo-ing' stage is usually done by the man in heterosexual situations. I would imagine that like a lot of other traditional relationship dynamics this has evolutionary roots and remains…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:55 PM
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It's not an arbitrary trait though. There are evolutionary roots to the preference for a taller man in heterosexual relationships. Due to height being a sign of strength, protection, and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:31 PM
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I never knew male shortness was such a big deal or even a thing people thought about until reading posts on this sub. Certainly have never seen posts about it outside reddit and definitely haven't bullied any men or boys about height. Never even remarked on it either way. Ex male partners have been shorter than me. Saw the male height thing mentioned on a podcast where Chris Williamson had William Costello on his show. That was about incel culture stuff. I'm thinking this is maybe another of tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:57 PM
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Firstly, this isn't something that you can make generalisations about across a whole gender and secondly the sexual energy itself provides the impetus to behave in certain ways. It doesn't really feel like an effort per se. But I'm not sure that it's sexual energy that men are referring to when they complain about women not exerting effort. This appears to be moreso general behaviour in a dating / relationship sense. Which isn't 100% based on sexual feelings, there are many other interpretations…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:10 PM
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No I haven't, but I've read about how they work and heard people talk about their experiences. It may also be a cultural difference. In the UK I've never heard of them being done like this. Perhaps we're just more mindful of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:50 AM
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That's not how it works at all. It's a business, they aren't going to purposefully orchestrate a situation that encourages people to feel dejected and humiliated. The reality of these events is that people are scored on forms and contact details are given to people with their consent if they choose to be open to the idea of meeting again after the event. It's all rather discreet because they want to avoid what you described. You're talking rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:50 PM
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What about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:59 PM
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I spent a lot more time on the build and decor of my first household than the couple of others after it. Same with effort on details of the Sims too. I need to slow down with the others but I rush because I just want a new dynamic to play with. I'm into both gameplay and the building side. I watched like an hour long tutorial on build tips but mine are quite basic in shape so far. I don't try and murder my Sims lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:59 PM
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What types are there? Sorry I know that's a rubbish answer but I'm not sure haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:25 PM
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Didn't come across like that. Make it more obvious next time. We're talking in text.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:26 PM
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This has taken a strange turn. I thought you put this up as a joke. I laughed because he looks as if he has a female cleavage. My only other thoughts about it are that a guy with decent muscles will look good regardless of the t shirt he wears. It made me think Joe Rogan who often wears t shirts and looks hot. In terms of 'having a shot', these wouldn't tend to be the types of physique I'd go for. Also, this advert looks like it's from the 50s which also makes it funny. I have a good sense of hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:24 PM
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No I found it funny hence the laughter emoji.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:17 PM
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Sims is a good call! I've recently started playing Sims 4. Sorry to hear about the tendonitis, hope you have a swift recovery.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:17 PM
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What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:14 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:13 PM
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I know the feeling. :( Are you unwell? Got anything else to keep you occupied?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:11 PM
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I'm not saying just be good with people lol, what i said was that people who are good with people tend to be good at dating as an extension of that. There's plenty of dating advice out there that doesn't involve just listening to random women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:07 PM
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Maybe she enjoyed talking to you but wasn't interested in anything more. Might have been commitment issues or anxiety about taking the next step. I don't know. Better to ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:04 PM
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There is no such thing as a male loneliness epidemic. Loneliness is an issue for both genders. It just seems that men seem to think it's more important when it concerns them not getting their dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:22 PM
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I don't think so. If anything it makes things easier. A proactive sorting of the wheat from the chaff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:05 PM
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I would hazard a guess that the majority of people don't care or even notice if unwanted men drop out of dating. Noticing something 'across the internet' doesn't really say much about real world attitudes. On the Internet people are often just looking for something to have a moan about. Those that are positive or neutral about it are less likely to say anything. It's like when people review services and products. Someone is far more likely to write about a negative experience than a positive one…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:03 PM
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Women aren't responsible for giving dating advice and at the same time it's up to you to critically analyse the advice you're getting and decide what you think is worth following. Women aren't a monolith anymore than any of your friends are. If you're good with people in general it's likely you'll be good at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:56 PM
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What on earth are you talking about? Coming into which country? Which religious beliefs? You need to back your ideas up with factual sources. You can't just make things and expect to be taken seriously. Especially saying things like that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:08 PM
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Marrying before having children is not a belief, it's a behaviour. And married parents lead to better outcomes for the child as I just mentioned. You are repeating yourself so I will repeat my response but after that you'll need to start coming up with better ideas because this far the idea of marriage being religious and good parents being more important are both wrong. Good parenting is synonymous with marriage. Marriage is declining but is in no way dying out as a practice. In fact in England…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:01 PM
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I do understand. It just isn't relevant. Lol what a twat
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:51 PM
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It's unnecessary to compare it to anything else. Unless you're trying to avoid the fact that calling single mothers stupid and poor is anything but a baseless insult. Either talk about precisely what you said or don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:47 PM
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You were talking about single mothers not bankruptcy. You're on the wrong thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:44 PM
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Children of married parents have better social, emotional, and cognitive outcomes than children of unmarried parents. Marriage hasn't been a religious value for a very long time. It's a financial and stability related decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:39 PM
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Marriage rates are reducing but it's definitely still a norm. So what's your definition of good parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:55 PM
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But it's not. It's a social norm, not a personal belief. What are you actually trying to say? Read back over your comments because you aren't really making any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:02 PM
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🤣 You said they were personal beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:49 PM
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That's not a personally held belief though is it. Only 22% of people who get married these days do so using a religious ceremony or religious officiants. So what are you actually talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:18 PM
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What do you mean? Marriage rates are already declining. But that's not what the original debate here was. You were saying marriage was occurring in the present day due to personally held religious beliefs. Which is false on the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:13 PM
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It's a social convention and tradition - the behaviour isn't based on values aside from following convention. Originally it was religious but the practice can continue without its original intention. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:53 PM
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You're on a debate subreddit, you can't expect to just make shit up and have it taken seriously lol. As I already mentioned - it's clear you just wished to insult with zero factual basis. Pathetic really.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:51 PM
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LOL. No they don't. It's associated with stability of the relationship, the notion is that that is necessary before considering starting a family. You sound incredibly out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:59 PM
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You think that single mothers are of low intelligence and low sociodemographic? Because it sounded like you were just being purposefully insulting. I wasn't aware you have actual data on this? For obvious reasons women in that situation are in a difficult financial situation often but unintelligent? What data do you base that assumption on?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:57 PM
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Yes but in the current day the fact that religion is, in part, personal isn't relevant as marriage is more of a social convention than something associated with religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:56 PM
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People may get married in a church but a significant amount of people who get married are not remotely religious lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:44 PM
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There's no such thing as a typical single mother. Is there a reason you feel so derogatory about them? I would say that the majority of people aren't silly enough to make such a sweeping generalisation about such a large demographic of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:43 PM
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Good chat 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:51 AM
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It's not something that's ever worried me. If I wanted kids I have plenty of opportunity to take that path. But the last thing I want is snotty screaming kids and a husband getting in the way of the lifestyle I've created. People make different choices and have different priorities. It's not wise to make broad statements and assumptions about all women and what they want. There's plenty of voluntarily child free women. It doesn't appear that you're capable of having an intelligent and nuanced co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:33 AM
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There's a reason that term was left in the 19th century. You can't tell anything lol. It's not as if you're coming across as someone with a wife and kids 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:25 AM
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I don't think i mentioned anywhere that I'm 4B?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:14 AM
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Troll account
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:00 AM
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What sort of decentering would you suggest, if any, for people who also (or only) date people of the same gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:57 PM
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It's extremely hard logistically? Is that the only sort of challenge it would pose? Logistics? 🤣 There are many men who rely on women for money and sit at home doing nothing while they work. Money is necessary for basic Maslow needs. It's not about gender differences in what is sought from the marriage itself, once it's over. Otherwise what's the point in it being over if, by your understanding, both parties are continuing to contribute what they did during the marriage. Sex must be voluntary an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:54 PM
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Incredibly closed minded. You don't get out much huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:34 PM
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Those are 2 extremes. My perception of what they're saying isn't that they say they thought it was mainstream. There's a bit of hyperbole in the first few sentences but it just sounds like normal exaggeration used to emphasise meaning - they haven't used word mainstream or said that it has become something the majority of people are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:29 AM
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I don't think anyone is under the impression it's mainstream are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:01 AM
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You're viewing the situation very differently to people who have chosen to engage in the movement. Which is what it is rather than a protest. Lots of women don't wish to have a relationship with a man or any children. I mean that's the fundamental aim of the movement. You seem to have missed the point somewhat. It's perfectly possible for a woman to have a happy and fulfilling life without men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:00 AM
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Fanfic for the human race. Imagine the scenario,..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:58 AM
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They aren't lonely or bitter though. You have made those assumptions. They have chosen to decenter men which is something quite different. And they've made this decision because they think it's the best way forward. They may still have friends and family. I'm unsure why you would assume either loneliness or bitterness. Perhaps because you are lonely and bitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:48 AM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:46 AM
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Incels are involuntarily celibate, these women are not. Sadder for who?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:18 AM
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It's quite an extreme movement. Were you expecting there to be more?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:17 AM
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There's still an active 4B subreddit with 24k users, if we're talking about its representation on Reddit (which obviously has users from all over the world, not just the US).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:04 AM
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I don't think that developing these feelings at a later stage denotes dishonesty. Friendship is a great foundation for a romantic relationship. There are plenty of couples who started off as friends. The idea that people are reluctant to change the status of a relationship isn't necessarily true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:07 PM
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Boredom? The attention? Might be like a stop gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:57 PM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:56 PM
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Why didn't you mention the context in your original post? Where on earth are you getting that 95% idea from? And even if it's the case. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:43 PM
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Of course there's no one size fits all. But I'm sure a lot of research has gone into trends and precursory patterns to inform perpetrator programmes and prevention. Drug and alcohol abuse have the potential to exacerbate and already violent potential but won't cause it in someone who didn't have that intention already. So what makes you think men used to be more dangerous? And do you now understand why non monogamy is not advantageous for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:20 AM
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elo?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:54 AM
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It's likely that more than one woman will want to date the man you're interested in, yes, but non-monogamy is not what women want. What makes you think men were even more dangerous to women then? I feel as if men have more drivers to behave like they do nowadays via feelings of inferiority - I'm not at all saying they're valid reasons but based on what actually happens. The weakest men most prone to jealousy and feelings of inadequacy tend to engage in domestic violence. Not something I've resea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:44 AM
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That isn't true. Social advantage doesn't run as deep as the evolutionary and biological need for a man to commit properly so he is there to look after her and the children. We're attracted to people with the most symmetry (noticed in the face primarily) and this is because it's a sign of their biological / cellular homogeneity.. thus health / ability to reproduce healthy children. All of the main features of human attraction are based on fertility and health.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:18 PM
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What do you mean by it being a prosperity? Prosperity is associated with material wealth. Do you read back over your comments before you post them? Because it's difficult to make sense of what you're trying to say. Everything is temporary. You've mentioned the temporary thing countless times. If those encouraging red and black pill are wrong then so what? It's hardly a surprise. Those ideologies are not based on reliable data. However, the answer is not to replace it with another one that encour…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:02 PM
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The second half of your sentence doesn't really make sense grammatically so I'm not sure exactly what you said. It very much depends on what the individual defines as success. Values are very personal and not something to be ascribed by other people. If someone has the values and personality that lead them to pursue relationships that are short or non-committal then that's up to them. If they aren't harming anyone then it's not really for anyone else to stick their nose in and tell them how to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:03 PM
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Everything is temporary. Even 'long term'. Also, the majority of cultures in the world operate polygamously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:52 PM
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No they don't, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:19 PM
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Are you saying that lack of emotional availability outside of this doesn't exist? Because relationships whereby many activities aside from sex occur that involve one partner being emotionally unavailable. There are also situations where a previously emotionally available partner becomes emotionally unavailable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:18 PM
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You're better? This isn't really a debate. It's just opinion and one person's experience. What's the discussion actually meant to be about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:04 AM
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Haha fair enough. I made a joke and you decided to take it personally and talk about your self worth. I'm guessing you aren't like a renowned philanthropist or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:01 AM
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Traditions are still valued in current cultures, regardless of your opinion. That's why we perpetuate them. Some of the marriage traditions have been changed as we evolve and progress. For example many women no longer mention 'to obey' their husband within their vows. To continue saying would be a quantifiable power imbalance. As opposed to your issue here regarding spending a few seconds on one knee. Also women are proposing nowadays, more than they used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:57 AM
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It was you who brought up the idea of worth, not me. What exactly do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:55 AM
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This could just be a sign that in order for people to be interested in you they have to be drunk? Lol. Dating apps are super convenient. For them to be 'gotten rid of' in general people would have to stop using them en masse. If they don't it's because they're serving a purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:54 AM
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Where does your worth come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:19 AM
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The bent knee thing is tradition. Both men and women love it, it signifies an incredibly special moment in both their lives. It's only you who's having a moan about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:19 AM
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Yes I didn't think so. But a guy like you with these views must have hot women hanging off each arm!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:17 AM
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No it isn't. Where did you get that idea about fairness? Survival of the fittest. The weak ones die out, no longer reproduce. For the overall continued thriving of the species.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:15 AM
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If you're marketing a product you want to first know who your target audience is. Identifying gaps in the market is one way to go about it, but be aware that if you are aiming for universal appeal then you're in competition with everyone else who already has with the same offering. Unless you've created some sort of never before seen USP. It's the customers who are buying, not the product. You're the product. You're offering yourself to potential buyers and competing with other products who may …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:25 PM
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You became one of the girls and this ensured you weren't introduced to their friends? That doesn't appear to add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:20 PM
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I mean what is it if it's not a personal goal? Lol. People manipulate others and are manipulated - it actually isn't always a negative thing. We persuade and encourage and try to prove our worth to people. It's all social transactions and payoffs at the core. You might find the theory behind it interesting. We aren't altruistic by nature, on the whole. And that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:17 PM
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Is that because you're planning to propose to someone soon?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:14 PM
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Traditions and social convention. Even if the initial reasons behind some of these things no longer stand, we value the customs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:13 PM
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I'm guessing this might be a good time to remind people that marriage began as a process by which the woman literally became the man's property. But do go off about the inverse power dynamic that er.. doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:12 PM
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Tell us you've never been in a decent relationship without telling us you've never been in a decent relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:09 PM
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History?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:17 PM
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That's not how that works lol. You can't just say something is reality and then it becomes it lol. Would be quite something if the case! It's your reality. You don't have the sort of personality or life that affords you the enjoyment of spending time with interesting people. We get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:12 PM
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Given your perception of women's capacity to engage in interesting conversation, it's of no surprise that you're only landed with the basic ones :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:00 PM
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That the majority of female conversation is vapid? Women talk on average 3000 more words per day than men. So how does your claim stand? If you're struggling to know where to find relevant studies try psychology of communication. Are you stupid? Because everything you're saying points to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:05 PM
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You're trolling at this point. And if you aren't then you need to provide sources for your claim. Because it's absolute bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:59 PM
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They absolutely aren't the minority. In terms of intelligence there are no significant differences between genders. What you've said there about basic conversation is completely false and a pretty disgusting assertion. There's no pretending anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:14 PM
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In what context are you talking to women and observing? It simply isn't true. You might not be spending time with women who aren't like that but it doesn't mean they don't exist. Have you considered that it might be a reflection of your own small minded approach to life that women with a scope and interaction outside of the interests of a Barbie doll don't spend time with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:07 PM
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What an ignorant, sexist, and grossly inaccurate view. Via what information did you make this assessment?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:02 PM
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Says the person that ascribes to an identity built on cherry picked bad science. Yeah I'm not gonna take your evaluation seriously. Sorry mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:59 AM
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I'm not really sure what you're talking about here. You're creating nonsense hypothetical situations and making strange assumptions about conversations I would never have a reason to be in. Happy to agree to disagree. You seem a bit thick and this conversation isn't productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:32 AM
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That's not what abortion is? So you'd have to understand that properly first. It's the woman's choice for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:52 AM
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You think you are. You're talking out your arse is what you're actually doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:03 AM
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Sorry, are you lost?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:58 AM
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You're not sure what's so hard? An adult having responsibility for his or her own issues has never meant that they're afforded the power to mistreat others. Other people's rights are nothing to do with a person sorting out their own issues. I'm not sure I can explain it any other way. But the fact you've even thought that meddling with women's rights is an option within your toolkit for finding a solution is a big red flag. Try and sort it out without fucking around with people who are just tryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:54 AM
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I don't agree at all. If it's your problem to solve then it's your responsibility. Which it is. There's no reason why that should involve impinging on the rights of others. You're effectively saying help us with the solution to our problem otherwise we're going to dehumanise you. It's quite clear why this isn't acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:28 AM
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Not if it impinges on women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:17 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:31 PM
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I didn't say I had a solution. You're talking some real nonsense here. I understand that it's hypothetical but you've made a lot of assumptions about me that aren't even remotely accurate. What I've talked to you about here are nothing but facts. There are some sex workers who like that they do but they are not the majority. By any means. It's not the first time someone has tried to refute my points with that age old nonsense. There are always exceptions. I haven't asked you for any advice. I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:30 PM
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I recalled slightly incorrectly. It's one in 8. Your arguments are weak and mainly comprise of whataboutism. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4380281 'Professional porn studios' are precisely where porn is filmed for the male gaze. You'd have to be really quite deluded not to know that. That's how mainstream pornography is filmed. Pornhub were found to have child porn and cases of definite trafficked women in their videos. Both of those issues are rife in the porn industry. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:14 PM
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How naive do you have to be to think that so called 'strict regulations' make a difference. Do you think they've joined a union? How often do regulators go round to these establishments to check that staff are being treated properly and all accounts are audited? You're having a laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:32 PM
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Exactly. It's not appropriate to victim blame when such a power differential exists between the producers and women who are often desperate for a way to make money and often tricked into thinking the situation will be a lot better than it turns out to be. These companies have many ways that they manipulate women into doing things they didn't agree to, are over worked and turn to drugs to cope with the situation, usually available from other people working on set.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:30 PM
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Are you really saying that watching porn is a viable substitute for actually having sex? There's probably quite a variety of reasons but many are against porn in general because of how appallingly the women involved are treated. It's also heavily skewed towards the male gaze and often violent and degrading. A study by the British Criminology Society found that one in 5 titles on PornHub and other leading free porn websites contained a violent act that would be considered a sexual assault if occu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:23 PM
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You're talking about the commodification of sex, not meaningful relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:09 PM
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And many stay longer than that! Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:59 PM
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Fs? You don't need to be a statistician per se. I study in this area so am more aware of these details. Good chat anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:01 AM
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That's a chart about reported rapes which is quite different to actual incidences of rape. It looks to be evidence of the impact of the #metoo movement on reports of rape. Interesting but not directly relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:53 AM
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Do you have a source for your claim about violence against women increasing? The reason not one stepped in re the attack you saw was because of the bystander effect and people's anxiety about getting hurt themselves if they did. It's rare that anyone steps in when these things happen. I would suggest that the self hate and jealousy is in itself not a reason behind increased violence. But I heard recently on a documentary that incel forums within the manosphere have many videos of women being vio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:58 AM
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What do you mean by 50%? Surely you aren't suggesting that billionaires make up half the population? On a society-wide level the hierarchies are different as you describe. But on a smaller scale, group psychology remains on trend with patterns that have been perpetuated throughout time for social animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:06 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 11:37 AM
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I hope that the complete annihilation that you've experienced as a result of this post puts an end to you taking up any further space with your nonsense. And if you think that's pseudoscience then I'm flattered 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:31 AM
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People in their 20s are often not yet at the stage where their values and goals are decided. On the goals side of things, that's something that can be reevaluated at later stages of life. As can values. Often as a result of particularly significant and emotional experiences and events. Socialising, partying etc I don't think should necessarily be avoided. It's an opportunity to make different connections and find out the sort of people who are your sort of people. And being that young should be …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 07:30 PM
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We aren't expecting you to admit it, but that obviously doesn't make it any less true. It's right there in front of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 07:21 PM
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I feel as if there are roughly the same amount of women as there are men at all levels of typical 'success'. Perhaps rather than always putting pressure on oneself to be different or 'better', aim for others in the same remit. Just a thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 07:20 PM
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This is nonsense. There are far more nuances and differences within high-school and outside of it. What on earth is an 'average high schooler'? Lol. You're talking about general neurotypical social behaviour and for some reason not just associating it with high-school, but talking as if it's only place these sorts of people are developed. You've simplified a much much more complicated array of human differences into a faux dichotomy to suit your ability to understand and explain difficulties in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:13 PM
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In general women need to be blunt with men to explain to them that they're not interested, don't want to see or talk to them again etc. Men aren't adept at picking up hints and will persist unless you give a clear 'no'. Having warmth in that particular interaction would mean that men found a way to try and persuade, twist, push back on what could be seen as an ambiguous msg.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:34 PM
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Whether we reach certain goals is a combination of immutable circumstances such as genetics and to a certain point what sort of life we were 'born into but there is also a LOT which we have control over. To what degree you believe that depends on your locus of control - whether it exists in you or is perceived to exist outside of you I.e. things 'happen to you' instead of you 'making things happen.' Nobody should be trying to change the core of themselves in an effort to succeed more in dating, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:20 PM
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he tried to sabotage my research career, and write up algorithms I developed as his own work. Oh that's infuriating, and sorry to hear about the put downs and attempts at control. I can see how many would find it a threat and resort to 'coping strategies' like this. I don't really have the sort of personality that would allow for that either. In terms of finding real connections with people who are compatible regarding how they believe relationships work, I find I'm not thorough enough to vet fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:52 PM
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Haha yeah you're right. It's mental. Filicide is a rare offence but particularly horrific, obviously, so perfect for this sort of baiting in what appears to be an attempt to make all of the audience feel bad in some way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:45 PM
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This guy posts particularly evocative and disturbing stuff on purpose to try and get a reaction. I agree it's a horrible topic but if it's any consolation he always gets destroyed in the comments and that can be entertaining to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:47 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:58 AM
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The hierarchical nature of society isn't borne of civilised society - it's been inherent since pre-historic eras and native to our animal instincts. All animals operate in hierarchies. Whether they consciously wish to or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:22 AM
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Women and girls who kill their babies are almost always acting under severe mental illness, usually psychosis (IOW, a complete break from reality). Exactly. It's beyond me that anyone wouldn't understand and assume this to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:14 AM
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Yes and not calling them pink collar jobs would be a useful contribution to that shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:54 AM
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What will be obsolete?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:55 AM
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1960s sexism? We've moved on somewhat since then and men tend to be a lot more comfortable with having the jobs previously assumed to be female jobs. I don't think using the term pink collar is useful in continuing to encourage men to be comfortable about moving into these professions. I'm glad this is the first time I've heard the term. It's not commonly used by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:35 AM
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Oh I definitely know IQ scores aren't BS. They're reliable predictors of all sorts of types of success and positive outcomes in life. It's not arrogant to talk about one's strengths. In fact I often make a point of saying IQ is hereditary and more of a gift than something that needs to be worked for and attained. Which is quite the opposite of arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:45 PM
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Yeah I don't think that's the case. You seem to be opting for explanations that paint women in a negative light through some sort of bitterness of your own. So I'm not paying much heed to what your saying. Just thought I'd point out how obvious it is. I've never managed to get through an IQ test myself as I find them too boring. So you're preaching to the choir there! I'm aware of my intelligence via other means which are backed up by parental scores.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:23 PM
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Thanks for such detailed answers. So did you end up with someone less 'bright' but easier to live with? Perhaps not someone you fell for but has better long term potential? Asking as I think I remember a comment where you mentioned having settled with a long term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:20 PM
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What's the definitive attractiveness scale 1-10 with pictures?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:07 PM
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Are you honestly calling this man a nerd because he's wearing glasses?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:01 PM
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Why did you feel the need to suggest the degrees are useless? Interestingly, for every IQ point higher than average; a woman becomes less likely to marry, while a man becomes more likely. We aren't perplexed about not being able to find someone who fits our standards. Or freaking out about it during times of being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 06:39 PM
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Maybe you find it loaded because it wasn't intended for men :) I was simply interested in women's preferences re education level. How that can be perceived is on you really.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 06:32 PM
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Right okay, sure, actively difficult personalities rather than just being a bit antisocial.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:17 PM
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I'm glad you got there in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:30 PM
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I wouldn't wish to deprive you of your suppository, rumour has it it's the only action you've had this decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:12 PM
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The OP is asking for personal outlooks of women. Why are you even here? Absolute clown. I've never had a problem finding a partner. Please just jog on. You're as thick as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:24 PM
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You're giving dating advice now? And assuming heterosexuality? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:05 PM
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What you haven't realised is that I don't have a reason to need or wish to prove anything to you. I'm not even the first person you asked the question. I just happen to be someone else that resonates with what the initial person said. It doesn't matter what you think of me, you're worthless to me. It's enough for me to be aware of who and what I am and what my experience is. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:55 AM
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Are you lost? That's not at all what that means. Jog on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:39 AM
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Intelligence levels are hereditary 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:35 AM
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👍 I'm done here. You're clutching at straws to try and continue talking to me and it's weird. Jog on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:34 AM
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Whatever you need to believe to supplement your handicapped self esteem. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:25 AM
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I don't think they need your help (or judgement) with that. Percentiles of IQ and genetics etc. Pretty reliable markers. Being too smart to date certain people isn't the only experience of isolation they'll have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:24 AM
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I study in this area and was interested in having seen the second attack based on this ideology. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. The ideal is that they just fester away in basements with PlayStations which is what the majority appear to be doing. But for me it's important to be aware of what may be emerging trends. Whether these ideas offend your lifestyle or not. Bit of motivated reasoning going on there I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:20 AM
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Who are you to think you're the judge of stupidity anyway? The arrogance is off the scale lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:16 AM
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Ah yeah, originating as a term in the 1960s certainly isn't surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:41 AM
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What do you mean by playing well with others? They aren't very agreeable, sociable, friendly?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:28 AM
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I'd only heard of blue and white collar before. How would you describe what pink collar means?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:25 AM
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Nah it's not me that's misguided. We're aware there's other things going on lol. I don't think it's the main issue or like a huge impending danger or anything. I mentioned it because of the context 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:51 AM
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By stupid do you mean contrary to your own views? Because that's something quite different. I'm far from stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:58 AM
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That's unlikely. Are you stalking my comments? Creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:44 AM
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It's not just a concern that's come from me. The issue is that these sprees were a result of ideology associated with incels. They've been classed as terrorist attacks for that reason. The concern is around the potential for further attacks due to extremist rhetoric and that it's a novel motivation. There's a disproportionately high amount of poor mental health, Autism, and hate for feminists in that population. It certainly isn't the case that only 2 incels ever have engaged in violent attacks,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:43 AM
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Ah yes the type 1 'regular guy'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:52 PM
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Indeed. Grades, speed of work, professor's appraisal. I obviously didn't just mean a personal fan club lol. What's so challenging to you about believing someone's smart?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:24 PM
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Oh sure. Yeah I'm not bothering with proof at this time of night lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:28 PM
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It applies to a lot of people, not just me. Thanks for sharing your views.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:20 PM
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Repeatedly being told you're intelligent throughout life, high academic and career success, partners saying they don't feel clever enough for you, feeling everything is too easy, finishing work and education tasks well before everyone else.. there's lots of ways to tell. It's not like people are unaware of where they stand in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:18 PM
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When talking more broadly about life in general we tend to have aspirations about what we want that we think will make us happy. But once we have those things we tend to think of other things we want because we're still not content.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:12 PM
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Can you expand on that? Because it's evidenced to be the case. People tend to enjoy the anticipation more than the acquisition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:05 PM
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Exactly! Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:39 PM
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You can't debate a person's preferences, or contend them, or disagree with them. If it's not simple enough for you to understand, consider the idea that someone prefers chocolate to marzipan. It's probably to do with food they had as a child versus food they didn't, particularly good experiences of chocolate. Due to the impact of parenting and location, culture. All of these things are implicit with regard their effects on the adult preference. No one thinks they're immune to social conditioning…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:38 PM
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Yeah not really. For it to be a debate i would have had to be partaking also. The Internet is used for a lot of different types of communication. Not just debate. I think some people take the debate name of this sub a bit too seriously. The mainstay of discussion is debate but that doesn't mean it's not possible to also have small amounts of casual discussion here and there. It's amusing to watch when people can't sense which is the correct style of communication to use. It's hard to believe it …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:18 PM
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Camera pans to a group of bears working out furiously because they've heard so many women are or on their way to the forest with a preference for them over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:56 PM
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Isn't that just people in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:53 PM
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I wasn't talking about your personal life I was talking about your enthusiasm to spend time on Internet 'debate'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:41 PM
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Am definitely with you on the need for intellectual connection - I make the mistake of equating it with education despite having met many people with degrees who aren't particularly clever. Maybe because I'm unsure how else to spot intellectuals without that guide. Funnily enough when you refer to liking the weirdos I don't know if that's about people in or out of higher education lol (having met my fair share of them in both environments).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:06 PM
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I wish you the best of luck finding someone who feels as seriously about this as you do. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:57 PM
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I was asking for individual approaches out of interest. Not in an attempt to debate anything in particular. Thanks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:06 PM
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Yes I wasn't saying that as an attempt at debate lol. It's just my personal view. Not everyone has the 1% approach so the issues you mention are unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:05 PM
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It's not delusion. We like who we like. It's a very personal thing. Not something that anyone else has a say in. Thanks for sharing your ideas though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:37 PM
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I see. So you're not advocating that women date men they aren't attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:12 PM
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But mating is an individual decision. What's the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:03 PM
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I was just making a joke. Not being serious. The only aspect I currently feel is worthy of concern on a societal level is that some of these Autistic, mentally unwell incels are starting to take to the streets and go on murder sprees. We've had at least 2 attacks in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:52 PM
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Nature will find a way. Or perhaps it won't and humanity slows itself to an eventual grinding halt - intrinsically preplanned due to how inhabitable the earth is set to become as a result of climate change. It's an interesting thing to be worried about - quite a burden for any one person's shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:36 PM
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In what sense are you suggesting they matter, in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:17 PM
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Wrong unfortunately. They mean exactly what the words say. What has given you the idea it has a meaning about politics?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:16 PM
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The guys in trade/business are worse, they want someone to do all the work inside the house. What's this stereotype based on, out of interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:14 PM
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Politicians where? The post is open to people wherever they're based. People appear to be getting hung up on the categories of tradesmen and those highly educated. It's really just a stereotype used to create an example of someone educated and someone else not so much. I could just as well have asked if people find it important to date an intellectual match. Not that education equates to intellect directly, but there is some association - especially once you venture into master's / PhDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:13 PM
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Sorry to hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:09 PM
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A clear honest answer I can relate to. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:07 PM
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You sound like a real drama queen. Do you actually have anything intelligent to add or are you just here for the personal attacks?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:03 PM
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Not at all. Strange comment to make about someone you know nothing about. Women are not radicalising incels. To claim that they are is a preposterous blame shift. To radicalise someone means to intentionally encourage them to take on an ideology. It means to target particular individuals and brainwash them. Women are simply living their lives. How some men choose to react to other people having a better life than them is solely their responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:01 PM
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Perhaps - but the 'radicalising' posts aren't designed by women. And it's about using critical analysis. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows not to take everything they see online at face value. Spending less time on screens would be a start, if they're really finding it that difficult to stay away from that material.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:57 PM
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Yeah, there's so many different ways of conceptualising the situation that there are bound to be contradictions in findings as things evolve. All interesting stuff!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:54 PM
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I'm not being naive at all. It's was your personal experiences that led you. Personal experiences of being you. Not women. And if you've been led to the red pill then I think you'll find it's you who has been naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:26 PM
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That's true. I agree! Especially if what you're doing is important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:17 PM
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Interesting. What's the input data?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:58 PM
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Of course. That goes without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:56 PM
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Chris had been wrong or his guests had? Anything in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:54 PM
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This is the response I most relate to so far. I like to be able to have complex and intellectually stimulating conversations too. When you say technical, would that mean someone from the same field who understood particular technical terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:53 PM
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There's no dispute over the money that can be made from a trade. It's about level of intellect and formal education. But you've certainly made it clear what's important to you 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:41 PM
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The question was 'how do you feel about dating outside your education level?'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:16 PM
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No, being in a trade doesn't mean someone is uneducated, but it's not really about getting into the weeds of that. He was using it as an example. I understood what he meant by that. Of course there's nuances with people individually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:07 PM
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It's not about competing to see who is suffering the worst. I'm aware of the differing severities of hardship experienced across the world. But I don't think this makes issues in the first world any less important. Happy to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:53 AM
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Radicalisation is a very intentional act which involves targeting particular people and brainwashing them with a particular ideology and persuading them to join the extremist group / following which uses it. That's certainly not what is happening when women innocently discuss their dating experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:26 AM
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Problems in the first world are just as relevant and valid as those of times gone by. The cost of living crisis, poverty, the impact of changes in the food industry, etc are all very real issues with significant impacts. It's naive to think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:24 AM
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I haven't mentioned trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:12 AM
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I had no intention of getting into a discussion about politics. I simply made a joke that wasn't received as planned and for some reason you've resorted to personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:11 AM
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What makes you think that? Because it isn't true based on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:07 AM
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Don't call me bruh. Large makeup retailers dictate beauty standards as does the fashion industry. If you aren't aware of this you might as well live on the moon lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:08 PM
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Well I don't live in the US and neither am I 'you guys', whatever that means. I doubt they think you're capable of being a threat lol. Surprised you aren't aware of that. He's not a totalitarian dictator but if you're onboard with his decisions thus far then we've far too little in common to be able to discuss any further anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:06 PM
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Am not sure that's a Reddit exclusive line. My point is that we're already there. The future that you're describing is the present.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:58 PM
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Beauty standards in general. It shouldn't be difficult to understand what I'm saying. Foundation, lip liner, fake eyelashes.. highlighter, concealer, bronzer..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:56 PM
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Is the future in the room with us right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:52 PM
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All of them! Lol. Just look at popular trends throughout their 100+ years in existence. Pure marketing and socialisation. It's capitalism not biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:50 PM
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I think you have to be very careful about how you phrase this because it looks like a huge blame shift of the radicalisation from men to women. Women aren't radicalising men. Men are having trouble with dating or finding a partner and choosing to spend time in online spaces where women are talking about their contrasting dating experiences. Men are becoming frustrated and instead of making a decision to spend less time looking at this content and stepping away from the device to do something pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:48 PM
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There are plenty of beauty standards that are created by Max Factor that have absolutely nothing to do with evolutionary psychology or biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:28 PM
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Do you have any data on the percentage of relationships which are healthy versus unhealthy? Because the idea of prioritising being a relationship too much, leads people to settle for people they aren't sure about and that dissatisfaction finds its way to the surface at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:25 PM
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The definition of success is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:19 PM
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I prefer the notion that, given the dire state of society at this point, to be maintaining normalcy makes you the crazy one. The astonishingly high rates of mental health issues that we have in Western society are the 'normal' response to the financial, environmental, nutritional etc stressors placed on the majority of people who make up 'society'. Further to that, we have increasing rates of Autism of which a hallmark symptom is the inability to maintain relationships (or even have the usual de…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:16 PM
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To a certain extent. But a certain degree of conformity is needed to fit in, at least somewhere. Belonging is important. I agree in part to your ideas but there's a lot I don't agree with which I've obviously started to go into detail with re self improvement. I agree, but not in the way you're describing it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:21 PM
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Do you mean go your own way as in give up on the idea of a relationship? If that's the case then no, I don't. I would say that self improvement on your own terms would mean that you're improving in a way that will eventually attract the right person for you. Many of the things people do such as ambition with their career and being a healthy weight and toned etc are done for themselves, regardless of the idea of the idea of a partner. But they happen to be the same things that others find attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:25 PM
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Are they? That's interesting. The majority of the Western adult population is overweight if not obese so it's become much more of a refined standard than you might think. I wonder if the men with that preference are fat themselves. Probably varies. I would they're shamed because the last thing a woman wants is to hear explicitly that men don't want them because they're overweight. It's a sensitive topic and likely to provoke defensiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:39 PM
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People have far more similarities than differences. Proper self improvement isn't obsessive, isn't done for external validation and doesn't result in misery. There's a difference between self improvement and trying to improve aspects of yourself to make you more appealing to potential partners. If you're into self improvement regardless of your relationship status then the heavy leaning toward pandering to external validation would be an issue you'd be working on! At least if you're spending tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:36 PM
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They don't even get a 1/5 the flack women get for being overweight. You'd never get the equivalent of the 'dad bod' as being seen as an attractive look for women (mum bod? Lol). Plenty of fat millionaires walking about with supermodels.. but that's another conversation. I'm not sure what your first sentence said. Typo I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:42 PM
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Haha fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:55 PM
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The attractiveness of actor's and actresses is a large component of what is used to sell entertainment media - I can't say I'd noticed a drop in female attractiveness but then again, I haven't looked for it either. I have read articles about 'Bigorexia' which is about men and their obsession with the gym, or some men's. It's likely that steroids were mentioned. I actually was involved in a research study interviewing people in gyms about their use of supplements. The results were used to inform …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:59 PM
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I think the reason the conversation shifts to extreme rhetoric such as "enslaving women" is partially how taboo this subject is. It seems to funnel people into violent forums or the harsher sides of "the manosphere". I think the people who seriously believe that stuff are either brainwashed impressionable young men, or more than likely severely mentally ill. You'd be surprised how 'normal' the sorts of people can be that get swept away into these ideologies. All it takes is a lack of social supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:52 PM
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No. But I'd have to have been paying attention to certain spaces, right? I guess I should just congratulate myself on not filling my head with mainstream nonsense lol. Where were you seeing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:37 PM
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I guess I've heard of that here and there. But I'm anything but the mainstream. Thanks for explaining. I've also seen the flip side where men are shamed for not discriminating at all on the women they're sexually attracted to. Coincidentally, just recently I saw a video of a homeless woman on another sub with the point of the post being to display the sexual objectification in the comments. Swings and roundabouts I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:32 PM
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I'm glad to hear you weren't ever bullied for not being as social as others. I can definitely relate to not having the drive to want to date - it's a lot of effort, as well as liking one's own company. Thanks a lot for sharing :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:28 PM
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I agree with most of what you've said. I don't think there's a problem with someone only wishing to date the top 1%, everyone has the autonomy to choose what their standards and preferences are. If other people wish to take issue with that then that's on them, but they should keep it to themselves rather than deluding themselves into the idea that their displeasure about it should influence women's choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:23 PM
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Men had high standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:20 PM
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I would say that the sugar daddy arrangement is talked about and understood by both the woman and man moreso explicitly. There's less emphasis on any emotional component to the relationship and payments are intended for luxuries as opposed to mere economic survival. It's far nearer the prostitution end of the scale than the normal relationship end in terms of how it's framed by those involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:08 PM
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Why have you never dated? I'm not sure that's 'normal' but I do agree with everything you've said!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:58 PM
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Sure, I understand your POV. It's definitely useful to understand what most people are doing i.e. the average person. I guess there's also probably a bias of people imagining that more people are like them than actually are (in my case I mean).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:22 PM
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That is just me I'm talking about, yes. With regard debate it wasn't clear that the OP wanted sourced data to suggest overall trends but I'm happy to have a look to see what's out there when I have time. Isn't it just going to be everyone talking about either their experience or an unsourced opinion, like yours, of how they think the world works? I guess we'll find out. Also, spending power only increases if he decides to share his earnings. I would have thought that's unlikely to begin until th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:08 PM
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I'm always interested in what someone does for a living but it's not because I'm looking for them to have a high salary that I wish to help them spend. It's more about what their career demonstrates about their intelligence and capacity / interests etc. Status is also important to a certain degree, but not because I see it as potentially having an impact on mine but because e.g. I'd be impressed by a doctor because of being aware of the dedication it takes to achieve that title. However, being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:43 PM
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Also just to add that I started listening to a Dr Cory Clark conversation with Chris Williamson this morning and it's super interesting. Thanks for the recommendation :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:26 AM
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An alternative reason could be because lesbians have higher rates of substance abuse and mental health issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:50 PM
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At this point it's safe to say I'm happy to agree to disagree as we're just going round in circles. Good chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:31 AM
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I read that section on page 4 and it's an explanation we're both already aware of that is also mentioned in the video? Do you have a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:02 AM
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The women are wonderful effect isn't about treatment towards women, it's about likeability which is something quite different - it also differs depending on subcategories of gender. E.g. career-focused women score equally to men in how people regard them. (Had a quick read on it after you had mentioned it, though I have seen it mentioned countless times on this sub.) You might have 'told' me things but that doesn't mean I've taken them on board as fact - I've already told you that nothing that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:57 AM
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No it isn't misleading, because gender equality is generally known to mean redressing the historical and structural disadvantages experienced by women. From what I remember of the video, they do do this for longevity. I don't think it's justifying an anti-male bias at all. You sound incredibly suspicious of their intentions and I think the fact that your mind is already made up about their supposed sexist intentions is heavily influencing your response. Are your ideas about the WEF and other org…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:23 AM
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I was interested to know why the WEF deal with gender inequality scores how they do, and it makes perfect sense: The Index is Capped at Equality, Not Reversed The index only penalizes gaps that disadvantage women, under the rationale that historically and structurally, women have faced more systemic barriers. Policy Focus The index aims to highlight where countries need to improve conditions for women, based on historical discrimination and underrepresentation. It's a diagnostic tool, not a neut…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:09 AM
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I watched 6 minutes of this but then had to turn it off because it's impossible to concentrate when the narrator is talking in such an emotive and hyperbolic way. He clearly has something against feminism too. The first part was interesting but it's something I'd want to look into by reading proper literature rather than via a YouTube video like this. Wikipedia is not a reliable source and he has wiki pages front and centre as the main part of the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:03 AM
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Lol. That's the entertainment industry. I don't see Netflix sending us any revenue to fund research. But it would be quite a peverse cycle of actions if they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:26 PM
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Research as a hobby is definitely something I can relate to lol. My undergraduate was psychology and I'm doing a masters in Criminology (specialising in global Criminology).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:07 PM
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It doesn't really make any sense to make assumptions about what people have studied, especially when I've only mentioned the school of academia lol. Each course involves different modules and areas of focus within those. What are you actually studying? Where were you taught how to research?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:32 PM
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Why is it baffling? It's clear you have biases and agendas of your own which obviously are skewing what your research interests are and what you're choosing to talk about here. As I said already, and to put it more clearly, you lost my attention when you shared an implicit bias related paper to try and make a point about research biases which wasn't even related to research biases. I'm not going to read anymore of your recommendations. What are you trying to achieve with your original post? The …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:08 PM
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Thus far I haven't had any reason to think that things you say are reliable or that feminist philosophy is biased. I will keep Dr Cory Clark in mind but each person has an agenda, hence we often call research mesearch. It's better to look at theories which have been replicated by evidence repeatedly over time and evidenced by a range of different researchers. At the moment I'm doing a masters degree and any other work that I look at has to be deprioritised until that's complete. Because I tend t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:02 PM
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Rape jokes are far more likely to be a symptom OF rape culture, not a cause of it. Have you considered what you're saying? Because it's quite absurd, the idea that certain topics of humour cause men to commit serious crimes. This is an idea that has come from you only, as you haven't linked to anybody else on Reddit claiming such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:27 PM
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Times change. There used to be a lot of stigma attached to online dating. It's now become normality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:14 PM
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The paper you've shared is about evaluating implicit bias in everyday social contexts. How is that relevant to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:10 PM
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I haven't studied the women are wonderful effect myself so I can't say either way. Feminism aims for gender equality so there's nothing biased about it. Thanks for the link, will have a look.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:02 PM
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The World Economic Forum is not skewed by feminist bias. And there is not anti-male bias in the social sciences either. I've been a social science academic for 11 years. If you want anyone to take you seriously on the drivel you're talking then you need to be including reputable sources. Thus far I have done this and so the claim you make in your original post has been refuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:43 PM
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It isn't biased you muppet. And neither is it the only source of this information. What do you mean by feminist agenda? The feminist agenda is equality, it doesn't create biases in this sort of research. You should be reading this research so that you educate yourself on an area you appear interested in. The article you have shared isn't even centred on the point of your post lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:14 PM
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A woman's own opinion of how she looks can't possibly be ignorant. It's the opinion that matters the most. What other people think is their opinion. There are general ideas about conventional attractiveness, yes, but that doesn't mean that appearances outside those norms aren't also found to be attractive by others and by those that possess them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:08 PM
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According to the World Economic Forum the global perspective is that women work more when paid and unpaid work is considered: source
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:59 AM
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It matters more than any other rating the world. And if you don't understand that then more fool you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:56 PM
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These industries as well as make up and beauty industries exist because they're businesses. Not because people asked for these products before they existed. It's the industries who spend large amounts of money making women feel as if there are flaws of theirs bad enough to require the products they're selling. Not the other way round.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:54 PM
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Shows how much you know lol. I don't personally find it a chore at all. I enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:49 PM
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You're talking rubbish. Women wear makeup because of the ubiquitous pressure they're under to look a certain way. This is a societal pressure perpetuated by the make up and beauty industries that through repetition over centuries have maintained that women are riddled with physical flaws that need covering and rectifying with their products. This is by no means an advantage to women. To stand out and be noticed would be to not wear any make up at all. This would only appear aesthetically substan…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:41 PM
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Oh dear. This cunt again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:25 PM
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You don't know what you're talking about. It's a as simple as that. If you have legitimate evidence of loneliness being gendered and not affecting women then I'd be interested to see it. But spare me the nonsense where it's just you rambling about your own personal delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:16 PM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:07 PM
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Men's or their own?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:06 PM
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That's not what loneliness means. A lack of loneliness means having a social and support network of friends and family ans maybe a partner but not necessarily. Men hitting on us does not reduce any loneliness that might be present and there is no such thing as the 'victimisation trick'. Hope that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:22 PM
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This is such nonsense. Men will have their whole town knocked down and rebuilt before even approaching the idea of using their initiative and getting off their ass and joining a sports team or interest group. The problem of loneliness is not gendered. It affects women no less than it affects men. Men don't have a problem with loneliness, they have a problem with finding a romantic partner which is something quite different and will not be solved via manipulation of town planning. Also, Asia has …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:26 PM
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Your last line is incredibly anticlimactic. Is it really such a cutting edge idea to consider that appreciating the physical and the psychological attributes of a person, in parallel, is the most reasonable way forward? Of course it is. You needn't even go into the biological and evolutionary origins of behaviour to illustrate this. It's just common decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:11 PM
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Yes but you're consciously able to challenge your initial thoughts and responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:30 AM
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They aren't stopping men behaving a certain way though. It's on men to decide to behave how they want to regardless of how it's recieved. And perhaps being more selective about who they spend time with or pay attention to the reactions of.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:29 AM
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They aren't. What's your evidence for this? And your definition of emotional instability?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:27 AM
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You need studies to support your claims because the alternative is that you just make shit up, which is exactly what you have just done. This is a debate forum. If you're going to disagree about something and argue that a different idea is true instead then you need to support your claim. If you can't do that then we have no reason to think anything you're saying is true. Because it isn't. Men are soldiers and Navy Seals because they're physically stronger. What's this about women being insecure…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:27 PM
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No I said what's your source of evidence. We aren't running a new study. Are you familiar with how research works?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:15 PM
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That's not true at all. Women are DEFINITELY not less resilient. They express themselves emotionally more regularly in communication. By nervous system differences what are you talking about precisely and what's the source of your claim? You can't just make claims like that without demonstrating evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:10 PM
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It's nonsense. People who grew up in chaotic homes tend to try and recreate drama as an adult because it's what they're used to. But it has nothing to do with gender. It occurs in both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:34 PM
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What do you mean by emotional instability? Are you saying women are emotionally unstable by default?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:31 PM
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Not necessarily, but it isn't mentioned in the original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:27 PM
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What do you mean by life teaches? Women aren't taught to listen to and act only on their emotions. As far as emotions and logic are concerned if someone is learning about emotion regulation they'll learn that emotions have a message for us but ultimately the best state to make decisions in is a logical and reasoned one, whilst using information from felt emotions. We're aware that thoughts occurring during a high state of emotion are created by that emotion and not rational. The idea that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:25 PM
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Sexual arousal is an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:17 PM
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What is 'society' if not the people that make up the population? I'm not sure people even know what they're referring to when they use the term 'society'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:14 PM
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If they're known to be immature why would anyone take it seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:12 PM
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Not allowed according to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:11 PM
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Oh that's pretty cool! I hope you find it an interesting read.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:26 PM
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While none of those things are abusive in a legal sense they are shunned societally because they aren't appropriate and aren't welcomed by women. These attitudes are useful because they dissuade people from behaving in a way that bothers others. Angst-ridden single men are creating themselves. Why not go to a singles event, ask friends who they know who is single, make connections via interest groups.. Women want to be left in peace to go about their day to day lives. As it stands, my experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:25 PM
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They might need help but that isn't the responsibility of women. If they're Autistic or have social anxiety then there are groups and programmes they can join. In the UK there isn't much on the NHS for Autistic adults so it would mean going private. However if they're the sort of loners who is depressed, jobless, fat, and addicted to gaming then it's up to them to make positive changes in their life. I certainly don't lack empathy but I'm realistic about how the world works. And for certain peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:29 PM
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If people don't have friends then the problem is with them and it's on them to go out and make connections. If they don't then yes they should just be left to be lonely because that's what they've chosen. If they try to make friends and fail then it's still on them to change their behaviour or where they're going to try and make friends. It's not other people's responsibility to seek out the loners. They're loners for a reason, because they aren't people that anyone else wishes to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:28 PM
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What a load of nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:58 PM
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You're talking about women as if they're a charity lol. Why would we be friends with people that we have nothing in common with? Life is busy and time is precious. I'm happy not to make fun of someone but to actually spend time cultivating a friendship with them is a step too far. They're adults they should be able to engage in the necessary self development on their own and with their own friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:56 PM
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There are always exceptions and as I explained to another person responding to my comments, they prove the rule. Here are the main points of the book I mentioned with the most relevant to this discussion being that prostitution is inherently exploitative. 1. Prostitution Is Inherently Exploitative and Harmful Bindel contends that prostitution is a form of violence against women, leading to both physical and psychological harm. She shares harrowing accounts from survivors, such as Sindy, a young …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:32 PM
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Won the discussion? It's not problem if you don't want to read it. It's useful for me to post it somewhere so I can direct other people who have replied to my comments to it, if need be. I won't be making a post about it. I'm not sure if passionate is the right word but there's nothing to be sought from asking people here their opinion, for me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:05 PM
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It's certainly not that simple and very misleading as a standalone line. Below is a list of the main takeaways from Julie Bindel's Pimping Prostitution: Abolishing the Sex Work Myth, each supported by specific evidence or examples from the book: Prostitution is Inherently Exploitative Evidence: Bindel interviewed over 250 people across nearly 40 countries, including survivors of prostitution. Many described their experiences as being akin to sexual abuse or exploitation, not consensual labor. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:09 AM
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No I did mean that exceptions prove the rule. That's why they're classed as exceptions. If you're going to take what I said so literally I'm happy to clarify that not 100% are involuntary. I'm not denying women anything. I'm simply talking about the reality versus the myths. If I get time to answer people in more depth I will pull some data from Julie Bindel's work. Either way I'd strongly recommend her book as an eye opener for those who have been influenced by the myths and largely leftist rhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:53 AM
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Exceptions prove the rule. One case doesn't equate 'many' and the idea of them being common is simply false. It's nothing to with echo chambers, my perspective does indeed come from an awareness of reality. If you want to become properly informed in this area beyond some dumbass click bait pieces from Buzzfeed I'd suggest starting with this book link
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:20 PM
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Many examples you say, yet you've provided zero sources to any of them. You can't just make shit up and then expect it to be taken on as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:04 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:48 PM
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That's not what I've said. But they don't tend to at all. Julie Bindel has written a book on this which I'd advise you read if you have questions like this and genuinely aren't aware of the reality of the situation. Which you don't appear to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:48 PM
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Of course I'm sure. The character in adolescence is young enough to be my son. And I've worked in mental health my entire adult life. So it's specific to my own trajectory, yes! You don't need to ask me if I'm sure, I wrote the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:39 PM
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Because if she had other options she'd engage in them instead. The idea of empowered, positive sex work is somewhat of a delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:35 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:18 PM
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I'm not sure it says something about their belief about men. If it's about general suitability as opposed to suitability for them personally then it might just mean that they think there are enough dreadful women around to partner with all the equally dreadful men. Of which there tends to be. Even the most seemingly unsuitable people are partnered or have known to be partnered, throughout history. Hitler, Trump, Harvey Weinstein.. to name a few. A further layer is that many couples that do exist…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:40 PM
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My standards haven't been mentioned here at all. The point i was putting across is that there are certain demographics of society that no one should be dating or are incapable of doing so and that cross culturally there will be further demographics that simply wouldn't be able to build a relationship because of the starkness of the differences. It's just a stupid question. But most of the posts on here are. Still entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:25 PM
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I'm absolutely sure I don't want to date a man who's currently housed in a secure forensic psychiatric hospital. There's also any man who's previously committed domestic violence,.. and I probably wouldn't pair well with a man from a tribe in the Amazon rain forest. It really is such a silly question, but some fun can be had with it!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:30 PM
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Laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:31 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:45 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:44 PM
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You don't know what triggered means. I was responding to what you said. Anyway you clearly aren't capable of intelligent conversation. All the best with your stupid idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:43 PM
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I'm not the poster girl for women. Try using your brain. It's in there somewhere!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:33 PM
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I thought you weren't reading my comments? You're on a short sub so that's why I mentioned shortness. Most women wear makeup. It's not a bad thing. I actually rarely wear it myself and definitely not a necessity to go outside. I still have no idea where you're getting the idea that I'm 'average'. Like I say I didn't even realise you were talking about appearance. I'm not preoccupied with that in the same way you are. I'm in the top single figure percentages on a number of categories within my co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:31 PM
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All you've done here is prove how thoroughly uneducated you are. Go and do some reading on factual history of feminism, why it started and why it continues. Your post is an embarrassing read.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:10 PM
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If that's what is happening then it is indeed natural. The fact that women's self esteem and confidence influences their dating preferences is also natural. Talking about 'inflated ego' isn't a scientific metric. Ego is confidence and self esteem, you're calling it ego because you want to turn it into an insult. It's insulting to you because you aren't included in woman's standards. It's not that our egos are disproportionate it's that you're so easily offended that you would need women to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:59 AM
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I hadn't even considered that you were referring to appearance. So wrong again unfortunately. Judging by your community membership it appears that you are short and so unattractive to women that you need to consider traveling to other countries in order to garner interest in women. I don't envy your circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:53 AM
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That's astronomically better than what I'm seeing which is a complete and utter wankstain lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:00 AM
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I'm not average. No idea how you came to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:02 AM
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You haven't even coherently explained what you're expecting me to be aware of. If you think that talking about Trump's reelection is somehow connected to the fact you can't get a girlfriend then that's a case misdirected resentment. I'm happy to have a debate but nothing you've said is either coherent or persuasive. You're annoyed that women have standards that don't include you. I understand that. But throwing words like feminism and Trump without having any ground knowledge with which to conte…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:08 PM
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You sound mental. Feminists are doing what they've always done. And they aren't doing it because of inflated egos or disproportionate dating preferences. Trump being reelected is problematic for all manner of reasons. But it's got fuck all to do with men's dating prospects 🤣 And I'm not sure what you mean by 'stirred'. I'm betting that you made yet more assumptions here about me being in the US, which I'm not. Although I'm well aware of America's impact on the rest of the world. I can't make hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:56 PM
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I'm not remotely afraid. I'm not even looking for a partner currently. You know nothing about my situation or even whether I'm straight so I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. I don't need to be personally involved in this to know your perception is bullshit. There is no such thing as an impending 'recalibration'. There's just a few neckbeards who are desperate for the idea to materialise because knocking women's confidence into the gutter seems like the only way you'll get a look in …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:14 PM
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You're talking complete rubbish. Women's dating preferences are their preferences. We aren't going to reduce them so that lesser men have more opportunity because we aren't a fucking charity. Sort yourselves out and become more desirable or decide not to and deal with the consequences. You aren't our problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:05 PM
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Err no it isn't lol. Women feeling good about themselves is a brilliant thing. I don't really give a damn what men feel about it. Neither do I feel compelled to prove anything. It's a presumption of yours and perhaps other men with poor self esteem. And that's not really how evidence works. You don't just say it exists and voila lol. It has to be demonstrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:01 PM
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That sounds like you think women need kicking into touch, which we indeed don't. What makes you think women have inflated egos? Perhaps we're just leveling and feel better about ourselves than we used to. It might appear like an inflation but in actuality it's a LOT healthier than they used to be. Change takes adjustment, but you've no right to get involved with another person's ego anymore than they've a right to try and deflate yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:52 PM
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It's bizarre that you seem to think you have a particularly strong understanding about the frequency and nature of infidelity just because you work in a 'commercial gym'. Most of it must be assumptive too, based on observation. Perhaps these are just the stories you fabricate because it's a boring job. We've all been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:48 PM
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Equity versus equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:53 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:40 PM
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It's not violence from women. Neither is it rhetoric. Now. I'm not really sure how this convo veered in this direction but I don't really have time or the inclination for a debate with sources over it. Happy to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:35 PM
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They really aren't. If you're going to try and talk on these subjects at least have enough respect for yourself to do the reading and gain basic knowledge on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:31 PM
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I'm sure you'll get over it. You get a bit of misandry while women get VAWG. It makes your complaints look a little tepid. Good chat anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:28 PM
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No I haven't. But then again I haven't looked for it. Autism is no excuse. It might just be that feminism feels like misandry when things have leant the other way as the 'normality' for so long. There's bound to be some kickback and protest, it's normal when anyone tries to change the status quo. All positives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:19 PM
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Are they insane or hateful? They're 2 very different things. At least 25% of the population have mental health issues of one kind or another, I'm not sure how feasible that is to completely avoid in real life or even whether it would be advantageous. It sounds like you might want to have a word with yourself about your attitude towards people with mental health problems. I haven't witnessed any of these women you speak of. What do you feel they are resentful about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:11 PM
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If all men were like the majority of the men on this sub I'd be man hating lol. But thankfully they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:26 PM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:23 PM
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What makes you think I don't know what the objective reality is? Through reading and learning about the state of society regarding gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:28 PM
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I see. Your observations are skewed by your personal perspective. Especially in this case as the objective reality is something quite different!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:59 PM
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What is it based on?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:52 PM
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Is that your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:45 PM
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What do you mean by 'gynocentric society'?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:36 PM
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They're more aroused so they rape women? Yeah, no. You might have made that connection but I didn't. It's definitely not arousal alone that causes that behaviour. People talk about men being stronger physically but it would be disappointing to find out that the reason they engage in the majority of sexual assault is because they simply can.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:48 PM
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They may well just have less inhibitions and impulse control. Just a theory but men are also engaged in the majority of rapes and sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:32 PM
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No it doesn't. Men take more risks in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:30 PM
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That's not a platonic relationship. That's giving advice because you're attracted to someone so you're looking for a way to talk to them. Is there a reason you felt the need to mention she recently turned 18? How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:04 PM
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The front page doesn't stop you from searching for the phrase is mentioned. You just don't want to admit the truth. The same reason that you've made baseless criticisms about the study i shared yet didn't express any of the limitations about your own suggested studies. Your views are built on nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:40 PM
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Nonsense unfortunately. 97 million people a day use Reddit and it is used in social science research. There will obviously be a certain degree of dishonesty but it's anonymity also causes a lot of genuine discussion. You sound thick as shit. If you have any worthwhile arguments let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:09 PM
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Not at all. I mention it because it's an easy search for you to do. Reddit is extremely popular and there indeed are many people on here discussing their lives. We use Reddit in social science and its regularly mentioned in the media. If you think it isn't credible as an example of people having discussions then I'm afraid it's you that's 'out of touch'.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:05 PM
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If you type in 'what are the advantages to being single for women' into the search bar on Reddit you'll find a lot of women discussing those advantages in threads. It's not rocket science. You just aren't choosing to see these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:01 PM
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What is?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:51 PM
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I'm glad that you also understand what a ridiculous claim that was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:47 PM
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Sadists? No one is being humiliated if they aren't there to see the conversation. If you've never made fun of someone with your friends for a laugh then you're a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:46 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:44 PM
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That might have been the case in the 1950s but it really isn't the same in the current day, at all. There's plenty of advantages to being single as a woman nowadays and there a lot of perfectly happy single women. If you aren't open to seeing that truth then you won't. The idea of women centring themselves around men as much as you claim they do is nothing but a fantasy at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:19 PM
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Who mentioned world views? The researchers will have accounted for biases that occur with questionnaires such as those related to self report. Their sample sizes are impressive. I'm not sure what the alleged benefit of lying on a survey like this would be. I have only glanced at and skimmed the beginning of the methodology thus far but it looks like good data and very recent too. Which matters a lot in an area like this. Aside from that I have my own anecdotal experience to go off. I don't think…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:10 PM
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Perhaps you haven't seen this: study
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:57 PM
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Desperate for an LTR and marriage? Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:41 PM
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It's not virtue signaling sometimes it's just something to have a laugh about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:39 PM
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Potentially because they even thought they had a chance in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:34 PM
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Disgust or repulsion to someone who you deem very unattractive is a normal response. It's about physical appearance and the opposite to the attraction felt when someone is very attractive. It's nothing to do with sense of security or status in the 'dating market.'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:31 PM
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They have no human worth to them perhaps. If they can't fuck it, what's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:24 PM
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I don't understand what the debate should be about this. I've read and agree. I'm one of those who used to be repulsed by some of the men that would show interest but it hasn't really happened in the last 15 years since my self esteem has improved and I wouldn't even take a second look at someone not on my level. It might be helpful if you elaborate about your ideas around status. Are you complaining about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:21 PM
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Autistic serial monogamist my entire adult life until the last year or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:16 AM
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I thought the same without even seeing the username.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:11 AM
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Oh shutup lol. Just because we're in a debate sub doesn't every last comment needs to be a debate. Why not just accept a nice comment and see the human behind the comment for once. Touch grass you silly boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:53 PM
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Haha I like that. I would never have imagined it was that thought through. Thanks for the explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:08 AM
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🤣 I wasn't writing that as a debate. Take it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:55 AM
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I'm aware it's not 100 - 0 lol. But it has an impact. Onto something more interesting. I was curious about your username it translates to spin gear in German. Was that intentional? Or did you just choose a suggested username? For some reason I'm noticing there's a certain kind of reddit user who has a 4 digit number after the word. E.g. 3000. Is that a code? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:52 AM
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Your last line is the truth I think. The being right part is what I think many are obsessed with. Rather than being open to learning something which might change your view or add to your current knowledge base. I find that I gain the rest of those advantages elsewhere. On Reddit it's more often than not that the person I'm debating with turns to personal insults and generally disrespectful communication. It's not a good energy. Especially when I have plenty of options offline for interesting dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:42 AM
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Some of us are clearly prioritising our conversations on Reddit much higher than others. For what goal I'm unsure. But there's not one worthwhile to me that I can see.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:34 AM
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Marriage stats mean little in a demographic of people who are prone not to care about following social convention :) better to look at stats on romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:32 AM
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You are correct about the severe part. I too think that it's 32% instead of higher because of the broad range of functioning encompassed in Autism levels 1, 2, and 3. I did start to look at Google scholar for actual papers regarding prevelance of adult autistic romantic relationships but only briefly. I have a lit review to write for my masters today so I am going to prioritise that over doing actual research for the purposes of a Reddit comment. You are by all means welcome to look into it your…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:30 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:58 PM
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Ho ho ho. Ragebait loses its effect when you make it so obvious to all. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:54 PM
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Do you think I don't recognise your username? You keep banging that drum. Stinks of ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:26 PM
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Yawn. No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:22 PM
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Yeah I understand that you're talking about Autists. The marriage stats are lower but that's also about Autists not being interested in following social convention. The statistic for romantic relationships is 32%. It's by and large lower due to the range of functioning presented in the entire demographic of Autistic individuals. I.e. Level 1, 2, and 3. https://www.steadystridesaba.com/blog/what-percentage-of-autistic-adults-are-married?utm_source=chatgpt.com
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:47 PM
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Both. What's your source for it not being true?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:35 PM
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Why would you talk about something you clearly know absolutely nothing about. It doesn't 'deoend on the type of neurodivergence' whatsoever. People with ALL types of neurodivergence are in relationships and have families. It's one thing to be ignorant but to then behave as if you have knowledge to impart to others who are clued up on the area is something else. You're going off dumbass stereotypes. Educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:13 PM
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Have you actually read my comment in the context of the one I was replying to? I'm aware of what it is as a business, but my point is that neurodivergent people are in relationships. Many many of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:50 PM
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You've made an assumption about some subtext here which is based on your perception, nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:46 PM
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but it turned out they are autistic. It's just a severe disability that will very very likely result in being single forever. Nonsense. Autism alone doesn't mean it's likely that someone will be single. You only need to do a quick browse on Google to see how many services and products are marketed to supporting the success of neurodivergent relationships. They aren't without their problems, but what relationships are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:43 PM
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What on earth are you talking about lol. More than 10% of the population are neurodivergent and it bears absolutely no association to attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:40 PM
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Yup this is pretty much my answer too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:59 PM
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Quite!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:47 PM
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1005kg?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:55 PM
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One of the key findings from a study on incels by University of Swansea last year was: 'Attitudes and beliefs: Participants perceived high levels of victimhood, anger and misogyny. They also acknowledged a shared worldview among incels which includes identifying feminists as a primary enemy.' I guess it's the anger that causes them to want someone to blame for their misfortune. Which consequently positions them as victims. But only in their irrational perception of course. It's 'victimhood' not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:03 PM
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Where are you getting this idea from? What's your source? Or is it just something you've made up? Sounds like complete nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:28 AM
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Also, how would that explain male violence against women in the context of domestic abuse? They have the woman and the relationship and yet..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:06 PM
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Oh it's definitely not that simple lol. It's not like you can say the inverse is also true as there would be soooo many more of these incidents. Only 5% of incels 'often' justify the idea of violence towards people they deem have harmed them. 25% sometimes. Interesting study here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/predicting-harm-among-incels-involuntary-celibates/predicting-harm-among-incels-involuntary-celibates-the-roles-of-mental-health-ideological-belief-and-social-networking-access…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:45 PM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:24 PM
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I'm aware. My admiration is for the poise, rapport building skills, and perfect amount of emotional resilience and detachment. It's my field so I have particular awe for these interactions. I'm not really sure what the aim of your comment was but that was my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:23 PM
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In this sub especially there's others just as warped as OP who would believe such an idea, regardless of explanation. I'm sure he means it's propaganda to encourage more young girls to get on the pathway to becoming amazing psychologists like the one who conducted the pre trial assessments on Jamie while he was in the locked unit. Or perhaps it's propaganda for going to B&Q on bank holiday. Because we don't do that enough over here. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:10 PM
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I'm aware of that lol. Am in the UK myself. It's a hot topic and the idea of it being propaganda is the dumbest take of all I've read and heard thus far. However I wanted to hear from OP themselves what he thinks it's propaganda for. Hence asking. Thanks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:02 PM
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Propaganda for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:40 PM
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Neither. As was recently spoken about on Radio 4, the events that the series are created around are not actually something which has happened or is anyway characteristic of what's happening in the UK regarding children of this age or the 'incel' ideology. I think it's more of a creative experiment of forecasting what could happen. It would make more sense to ask if the Jake Davison attack in Plymouth was due to the person or the system. As this is a real event which happened likely due to the pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:27 PM
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We do!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:18 PM
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That's not what I asked, neither was it you I was talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:15 AM
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I'm perfectly aware of what debate means in the context of this sub. Which is just as well as that wasn't much of an explanation lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:13 AM
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That's not at all what debate is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:44 PM
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Is the only reason you'd bother becoming a better version of yourself because it increases the likelihood of finding a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:38 PM
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Exactly lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:36 PM
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Nope it's Europe too. Source.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:11 AM
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There's plenty of fat couples around lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:29 PM
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The majority of the Western world are overweight or obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:10 PM
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They aren't just sitting there lol. Work, study, hobbies. Like I said in the other comment. Also side projects.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:08 PM
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Most people are in fulltime work which involves interaction of some sort even if virtual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:06 PM
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No you aren't. What about work, study, hobbies etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:05 PM
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I agree with you on both accounts but societally we appear to equate people to be 'better' if they have a better job and 'better' if they're able to attract a partner. As if we live in an equal opportunity society without all the wealth inequality and genetic fluctuations that exist. It's not logical, correct, or fair. But it's definitely perpetuated via capitalism and the media which doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:34 PM
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That's awesome, I'm the same. I'm autistic too, if you want a chat anytime my inbox is open.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 10:07 PM
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Same! Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:59 PM
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It means what family, friends and social life do you have. Who would you go to for support etc. Okay well I wish you the best of luck. There's plenty of online spaces where you can meet potential dates, I'd strongly suggest interest groups too. And if you're finding group interactions that difficult it might be something to look at working on if you want to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:56 PM
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Okay cool. Do you have a good social / support network in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:53 PM
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It sounds as if meeting someone in an online space and then arranging an in person date from there might be best. Have you had dates / relationships before?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:49 PM
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What DO you see working for you? There's a lot of good suggestions in that comment. What would you need from a place to meet people, to make it comfortable for you. I actually think the DnD and games night suggestions that were given at the beginning of the comment would be good. It's also likely that you'll meet other Autistic people there who share similar communication style.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:44 PM
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The first 2 sentences say there are no other studies that look at opposite sex attraction and dark triad traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:53 PM
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The ideology will pick at whatever literature they want to make their ideas look legit. Have you read the discussion on the paper you linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:50 PM
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Yup I guessed as much lol. The red / black pill and MRA 'literature' is cherry picked nonsense. It's sad that it's having such a genuine influence on the way people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:46 PM
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Where did you read about it first?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:43 PM
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This is a study on only 128 female students at a UK uni so it isn't a representative diverse sample of women. As well as being a small sample size. The study looks interesting though. It certainly correlates with women liking the bad guy, or the mean rebellious type. As opposed to the 'nice guy". One of the major studies we looked at when I studied Psychology was attractiveness being due to a person's capacity and willingness to meet the other person's goals. There's a lot more complexity to wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:40 PM
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Which statistic / source?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:26 PM
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No they don't lol. I mean it's impossible to generalise and say what women like, really. It depends on which woman. But this one certainly doesn't. Narcissism is terrible to live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:23 PM
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Haha fair enough. There's a lot of women out there who are quite into weird if it's the right type. Any more than a smidge of charisma can come off as quite narcissistic. Horses for courses, but if only it was actually that simple heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:18 PM
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It's not that obvious to me. I'm not that familiar with the terminology. How would you describe what game is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:04 PM
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Is every single woman programmed to respond positively to... 'game'?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:01 PM
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Correct but that's not what I was implying. It certainly doesn't stop them however. Trying at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:45 PM
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If that wasn't clear then you might want to look back over the literature. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:41 PM
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If there's information in the public domain that women wish to look at for peace of mind before meeting a date there is no line really. It's understandable to want to do some sort of search for safety. The only strange part of this to me was that she told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:12 PM
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What would that empathy look like exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:54 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:45 PM
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You must be joking. If someone wants to be offended that's their problem, not the person writing their profile. It's for efficiency. People can write whatever they want on their dating profile and if that includes certain physical aspects then it's fine. We aren't a charity, and life is too busy to be sifting through respondents who don't meet an individual's standards when they could easily be eliminated at the first stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:44 PM
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Exactly lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:38 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:04 PM
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The lady doth protest too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:03 PM
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Is there a reason you're taking a sudden interest in my comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:34 PM
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It doesn't really matter what you buy, don't buy, have seen personally or haven't - it's simply the truth. There's far more nuance to people than many on this sub appear to be aware of. The fact he's physically a man is a pretty significant essential thing to him being a man lol. There are many differences between men and women that don't have anything to do with commonly understood femininity and masculinity. Anyway I'm happy to agree to disagree. It's pointless to go back and forth like this u…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:29 PM
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Well they do happen. A lot. With regard to being 'better off' with a different gendered person, that's not how sexuality works. We don't really need the typically masculine traits such as strength, courage, independence, leadership, and assertiveness from a biological man. Masculinity can be present in men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:05 PM
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Because she loves him for how he looks, behaves, thinks, his personality, sense of humour. There are a huge amount of different reasons that people are attracted to others. Attraction is based on the a person's capacity and willingness to meet the other person's goals. In the UK it is common enough that we have a phrase 'she wears the trousers' to describe a dominant woman in a heterosexual marriage. I'm sure there are similar phrases elsewhere. In Italy for example it is a cultural norm for wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:15 PM
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Ladies: You know you crave that steady masculine presence. In terms of heterosexual relations there are many where the woman is more dominant than the man across all areas of the relationship and their lives. I'm also interested to know how you think this assumption about 'ladies' would translate into alternate sexualities. A lot of what I tend to see on this sub seems to be based on outdated gender roles and generalisations that grossly underrepresent the nuances of human behaviour, relational …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:35 PM
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Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:31 PM
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I don't care? Why have you even replied beyond your original comment? I'm answering this crap out of habit. No idea what your objective is however. What is have learned however is that it might be best to take my gender out of my flair. The dirty incels on this sub appear to get extra chatty and excited and I've surmised they're perceiving it as 'female attention' as opposed to mere answering stuff on a phone that does notifications. And that's slightly nauseating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:15 PM
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If I was interested in what these things mean I'd have looked it up myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:10 PM
1

Power? No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:40 PM
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The what test? I'm not a manosphere regular so haven't a clue what you're talking about. I can fully assure you that I haven't at any point deemed you worthy of being 'tested' for any potential use.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:22 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:09 PM
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Well duh. That was the obvious intention of what he said lol. I was asking why. He's answered for himself. But thanks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:06 PM
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The premise of my original comment is amusing to some regardless of whether it applies precisely to OP or not. You're wasting your effort on all these symbols and alternate typing styles given the drivel in the actual content of your comments. i'M sO WitTy iF I d1sToRt mY txt EnUfF tHeY w0nt no i fick az sh1TT
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:01 PM
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Forgive me? What on earth for? I couldn't give a shit if other people read my flair or not. I read what I find interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:49 PM
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I often don't read them, no. But then no one who upvoted my comment did either. So the comment still had its effect. It's been up for hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:07 PM
1

Happens a lot more than you are aware of. Just not to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:02 PM
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You're certainly going to have to elaborate on that lol. What is your perception of an 'average woman'?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:04 PM
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Could not agree more. Pin this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:33 PM
1

Okay? Firstly what is an 'average women'? And the majority of men here are not by any means 'average' either. So it's a null and void point really. There is no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:52 PM
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Breaking News: Male Reddit User Discovers Nuance in Human Behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:45 PM
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Are you for real? That's one Reddit user i.e. 'some'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:42 PM
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It's not dismissal. It's understanding the difference between personal experience / bias and the larger context of objective human behaviour. It would actually do a lot of you some good to understand what those biases are rather than to be so self centred that you think your misery and negative experience is universal. It's not something I need to argue about though. Especially not with someone so committed to misunderstanding the truth. Or perhaps not even having the capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:41 PM
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Just because I\ll never experience things from a male POV doesn't mean I don't have a good understand of how humans behave regardless of gender. If someone is talking from their lived experience it is merely a personal anecdote and should be treated as such rather than extrapolated as a generalised fact about all men and women and their interactions. All you're really doing here is explaining that you're equally if not more ignorant than they are. Experts on giraffes do not need to be giraffes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:26 PM
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Well I think it's pretty closed minded to base your assessments of all human behaviour on only your own lived experience. My response wasn't dismissive at all, quite the opposite actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:57 PM
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You appear just to be making a lot of generalisations and assumptions based on your own biases as opposed to reality. I absolutely do not work in IT lol. It's client-facing work. So wrong on both accounts unfortunately. It's amusing when people think they understand enough about people to make these assumptions though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:35 AM
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Women do not want men to provide. Some women might, but to make that generalisation is simply incorrect. It's a dated concept and expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:32 AM
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Well it contradicts what you've said, so it's clearly not obvious to you lol. If you don't understand how to answer I'd suggest you perhaps try reading it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:22 AM
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I'm a woman in a high paying job and it's important to me that I find someone who is my intellectual equal and has similar levels of ambition and work ethic. Although it's important that this work is meaningful. I'm not sure what you mean by 'beneath', but would a man not feel the same about wanting someone compatible in certain areas? Even on a friendship basis it can be difficult to relate to people who are working at wildly different levels or sectors. I'm also curious about what you mean abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:39 AM
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Fair enough. But it's sad that you've reached a stage where you're viewing these things in such a reductionist fashion. It's not absolute. There are women who approach men and situations where romantic energy builds organically via interactions which initially weren't intended for it. It's clear that a lot of people here who claim to know so much about these do not have much at all in the way of real world experience interacting with others lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:56 AM
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You think flirting with women at work makes you NOT appear like a creep?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:15 AM
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That's not a strategy for women, it's a male behaviour (the approaching). We aren't attractive for the sole purpose of attracting men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:13 AM
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Since when is porn a necessary substitute for sex with women? You certainly do have other choices. The real issue with porn is not what it does to the brain, but the deeply unethical treatment of the people on screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:27 PM
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In the grand scheme of things, relationships are of less value than health, career, living circumstances, poverty etc. It's far too simplistic to talk about relationships without considering how difficult it can be to find and cultivate one that actually brings advantage to a person's life. I would estimate that the largest majority of people who are in relationships aren't happy at all. And that's a best case scenario. In many it'll be relationships issues that are damaging a person's mental he…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:16 PM
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Can you explain what you mean by male specific dating issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:08 PM
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Love how you've posted this to try and catch women out as only seeking relationships and sex for money and not one of us has said they would do it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:05 PM
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If that's the story you want to tell yourself then you're welcome to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:29 PM
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Why isn't it the same? I'm not unattractive thankfully but I have been turned down by people and I've simply moved on. There isn't one story where I had a huge reaction because it hasn't happened. Also, it's about being good with people in general. You don't just launch into asking someone on a date or trying to have sex with someone.l straight away. I, like many people are good at reading people so even before we've spoken I have an idea of whether it'd be a possibility they'd be interested in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:13 PM
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Perhaps don't be so fucking unattractive then or try with women in your own league? Women have far more burdens placed on them e.g. beauty standards or our disproportionate lack of safety around the opposite sex. I'm not sure you understand how pathetic you sound. Also, has it occurred to you that I might date women too myself? I might have experienced needing to approach them and I certainly haven't experienced all this crying and distress that men appear to be wailing about. You just sound so …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:01 PM
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I once refused a man's request to have sex with me who had followed me out of a pub when I was 17 years old. So he drove his teeth into my neck with so much force that I was left with a black bruise which covered the entire length of my neck. So it's just wild to be reading these comments about men and the distress they're apparently dealing with when approaching women lol. If you're humiliated then that's your problem - it's a huge overreaction. You can't blame women for your emotions. If you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:41 AM
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You sound like someone who could get into an argument in an empty room 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:56 AM
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Where are you getting these percentages from?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:55 AM
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Okay. Why distraught? You have no emotional connection to this woman and you just did a brave thing. You could be pleased and try again with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:54 AM
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A bad intention?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:42 AM
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This isn't a common response.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:41 AM
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Women of all sexualities fear men. They don't tend to check if you're straight when they rape and attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:40 AM
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Perhaps but many overcome it so that it doesn't limit them too much. Alcohol, apps, self development etc. They aren't all just stuck in a basement lol. We aren't meant to feel comfortable and good all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:34 AM
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Pfft. You must have an incredibly sheltered life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:23 AM
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It's not mandatory for you either. Do you think lesbians just remain single forever? If you want to build a story where things are unfair for you then that's the one you'll exist in. The majority of women take no issue in being approached appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:21 AM
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Are you new to the human experience? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:18 AM
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I'm perfectly capable of approaching because my life isn't dictated by social norms. It's not easy but that's just life isn't it. Every no brings you closer to a yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:07 AM
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🤣 Right?!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:58 AM
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I'm talking about significant issues lol. Rejection is part of life, tends to be a good idea to learn how to become resilient to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:57 AM
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What are the bad things that you imagine may happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:38 AM
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Teenagers question and rebel against most things! It's actually very healthy and part of becoming an independent thinker as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:33 AM
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Do you have to wait until you go through University to learn that what you're told at school is information that you're free to critically appraise and decide how much of any of it to use in your adult life. Please don't tell me you're following everything you're told at school without understanding it's often nonsense and even when it isn't there is important nuance that is left out at the age that you're unable to take it in. I also suspect that the messages you were given weren't exactly as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:58 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:10 AM
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I would say the police have bigger fish to fry. Not enough resources etc. The topic of this post is relatively minor compared to what else they're dealing with in terms of consent and footage on the Internet, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:39 AM
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The reality is that a lot of it will never be taken to court. It's all very well saying what the law is and what terms and conditions of social media platforms are, as another poster did. But what actually happens in real life is far removed from both. Most people do not read terms and conditions and when you're aware that 4/5ths of crimes committed are never caught you realise how meaningless both those points are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:28 AM
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Well duh. I'm talking more about the fact that there is a lot of footage online where no consent was given for the person to be filmed or photographed, because it legally wasn't needed. It's a different person who uploads it to the subject of the footage. Tiktok especially is full of that nonsense. Pranks especially. Obviously it's worse in other contexts such as when children are the subject as consent is certainly necessary and more oft than not definitely not sought. A lot of people are carel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:22 AM
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Intimate pics is something entirely different. I was talking about normal photographs. I'm not sure what you're trying to say with the instagram stuff. But the fact is that there's tonnes of accessible personal content that people leer over all the time. Same with FB, YouTube and forums, the Internet in general. Hence my point about the disconnect between subject and viewer. In fact there's nothing to stop someone sexualising, at least cognitively, the in person image of anyone they see in publi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:33 AM
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Are you serious? A contracted photoshoot is a tiny minority of photos that people leer over online. It'll be photos from FB, instagram, professional websites, paparazzi photography etc. I'm not sure what sort of utopia you live in where you think all available imagery of people has been consented to and is taken as part of an organised photoshoot 🤣 It's not even illegal to film or take photos of strangers in the street. Whether they consent or not!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:18 AM
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How does the consensual part come in when it is mostly photos or videos whereby the viewer rarely has any real-time communication with the subject? would a lack of consent even have any impact if the subject isn't aware that the viewer even exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 11:34 PM
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If you look into it properly you'll find that in cases where women murder their male partner, more often than not it is in retaliation to years of that male partner abusing them physically and emotionally (at least, if not also sexually). There have been some really quite famous cases of women murdering their male partner in self defence whereby the woman is firstly incarcerated for murder and then after prolonged investigation and court battles she has the sentence reduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 10:05 PM
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I was talking about the broader meaning of the word relationship which includes friends and family. However, most would say that sex is vital for good health and is a normal drive for people. To reduce the risk of STDs etc that would be best within a romantic relationship and this would also meet the emotional needs for close intimate relationships that most people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 09:19 PM
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Wrong from the off unfortunately. The same women who talk about the unequal distribution of unpaid work such as childcare and domestic tasks are not the same women who 'complain' about not having a meal bill paid. Have you never had a date with a self assured woman with a decent salary? They're making damn sure you go Dutch on the bill so that there's no room for assumption that they owe the guy sex just because you picked up a restaurant bill. Lol. Those so called patriarchal benefits that you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 09:15 PM
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I'm suspicious about someone who claims to know the fundamentals behind why some people can't find a partner, yet doesn't know which type of 'there' to use. Companionship and relationships are still just as important. We're social animals and relationships are vital to our health. It's possible to have children without a partner these days. The meaning of 'family' is somewhat evolving and doesn't necessarily require a partner. Not from the outset anyway. You'll find that it is actually things su…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:57 PM
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I was half joking. Everyone on this sub seems so unhappy and irritated lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:24 AM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:23 AM
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Have you heard of the 4B movement? If not. Look into it. You sound incredibly irritated lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:18 AM
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So Charlie Manson is the red pill ideal?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:16 PM
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Mad? Lol I love the way redditors project these ideas of emotions they often feel during online conversations, expecting others to be deeply affected in the same way. Not remotely. I didn't even read your responses. Funnily enough, I can skim read or ignore 90% of what a lot of people say on Reddit despite them appearing heavily invested in what's going on and they can't tell either way. Thick as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:48 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:44 PM
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What on earth are you talking about. The options you mention; '1 and 2' fail to include what's actually happening which is women are spending their time and energy whilst younger on their academic and professional life. Men aren't the centre of our lives. There are no such groups as 'traditional' and 'modern' women. There are women who live in the 21st century who have options, rights, freedoms, and opportunities that they didn't have before. The traditional wife stereotype belongs in the 1950s …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:42 PM
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Most people are aware of what Radio 4 is. I had thought it was enough to mention the radio station. I have to say, the occasional reminder of how pissed off men are at being decentred is an added layer of satisfaction we tend all to agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:27 PM
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What would have been stupid is buying into the idea that I was incorrect and reading the responses and sources shared in the first place. I'm quite confident in these facts regardless of what people here may think. In fact the happiness of single childless women is being discussed on Radio 4 at the moment. Of course it's not what men want to hear. We don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:07 PM
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Surely if I'd been put anywhere I'd be cognizant of it? Which I was not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:51 PM
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Oh this is hilarious. Did you really just say 'put in your place'? We should never have given these troglodytes Internet connections. Snivelling amongst junk food wrappers in clothes they've worn for the last week and they're still coming out with the thoroughly unearned superiority like they were born with it. Stunning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:35 PM
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🤣 Some of the characters on here are hilarious. Hard to believe people like you exist. Yet low and behold.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:24 PM
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Haha. I'm glad people like you aren't taken seriously by anyone important. We'd be in trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:55 PM
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Reality check? I'm living it lol. That's about as real as it could possibly get.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:54 PM
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What a load of nonsense. Women have contributed to the world but aren't talked about nearly as much as we should be about it. We aren't here to provide sex and children as default. Grow up, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:44 PM
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What makes you think men are providing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:33 PM
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The what? I don't 'know you're right' at all. Hence I've shown evidence to the contrary. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:42 AM
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So if we were to accept that sex is an act of bonding, what's your point beyond that? What are you trying to achieve or get people to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:58 AM
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Mentally stable women still seek relationships with men. Women like you only make up a very small part of the female population Nonsense. Single, childless women are the happiest demographic of the population. I'd say that's pretty stable lol. And knowing that, making that choice would be the logical / stable way to go. What about women who seek relationships with women? Unstable? Increasing numbers of women are choosing to be single - Read here Why mso many women are perfectly happy to stay sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:43 AM
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Oxytocin release is one of the processes which is occurring. There are many other neurological, biological, cognitive, and psychological processes that motivate an individual to have sex, and that are experienced. For stress release, for self esteem, to feel like you've achieved something by 'conquering' the other person, physical satisfaction, distraction from other things, to feel wanted physically and emotionally. Sex is not just an act of bonding. The reasons people engage in it are multiple…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:06 PM
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No. It's: 1. Technological and Societal Shifts: Increased reliance on technology and social media: While technology connects people globally, it can also lead to superficial interactions and a decline in meaningful, in-person relationships. Rapid social change and globalization: These changes can disrupt traditional social structures and lead to feelings of anomie and disconnection. Individualism and a decline in community engagement: A focus on individual needs and aspirations can lead to a wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:46 PM
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It's not a rise of Autism, it's just a rise in it being recognised and diagnosed. But even in those cases there are groups especially for Autists and interest groups etc that aren't impossible by any means for many Autistic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:29 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:16 AM
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When was this written? Can you link to it? Because you're talking about one person's opinion, which doesn't really account for what's happening in feminism across different countries / contexts at this time. Plus there are so many different sub-groups of feminism each with their own views and actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:03 AM
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The protector / provider expectation of men is not 'clear' - there's evidence of this changing. E.g. with female breadwinners becoming more and more common - Source
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:47 AM
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Feminism is simply incomplete as an ideological worldview. It obfuscates the complex reality of everyday life, and creates a constant contention between the genders during a time when we should all be striving to work together. “Men” are often grouped together without any added thought to nuances such as class, race, religion, physical features, education level etc. It posits that the original sin, I.E the patriarchy, means that men are perpetually oppressors of women. All men are part of a nice…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:42 AM
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I didn't say that most men are in a constant state of starvation. They quite clearly aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:37 AM
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Everything starts to look like food when you're starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:31 AM
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Don't call me boy. Thanks. I'm aware of what it means. And so would you be if you simply Googled the term. Social status is determined by wealth and profession. Maybe that's disappointing for you but still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:09 AM
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To you perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:06 AM
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I'm not confusing it, no. Agreed with you. I could say it meant something in Chinese and could agree with myself 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:28 PM
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I'm aware of what you said. Google social status and the word status. It's all there. It's a Sociological term.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:27 PM
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Yes you can. Google the word status. It's not rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:18 PM
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I'm absolutely not lol. You called it social status and that's what I'm referring to. You probably should have called it popularity. A quick Google of the term status and social status will throw up info the same as I've assumed. I have an academic background in psychology and sociology and these terms have meanings universally so it's confusing when they aren't used correctly. That's all that's happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:17 PM
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Being high social status and being very popular with women are different things. There's more to status than being attractive. Depending on the level of STEM job they may well be incredibly high status, intelligent and successful. They may also be Autistic and friendless. There's a lot of nuance you seem to be missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:12 PM
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You've written it as if it's a factual piece. It isn't. As I explained in my other comment I think the issue is that you've called it social status because that isn't what you're describing. And what women want is highly variable. If it was a one size fits all then you guys wouldn't still be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:08 PM
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It's not the wrong way. It might be different to what you've intended but I think it's more that you've used the wrong term. I'm talking about what social status means.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:06 PM
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No lol. Social status is about profession, education, wealth etc. Google the meaning, definition etc. That's the widely understood meaning. Popularity is something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:52 PM
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For a long term relationship people want stability which includes financial stability. Excitement is only favourable on its own in the short term. Where did you get your information from about status? Because there's only one universally understood type of social status and it's about a person's wealth, education, profession etc. Fame never lasts long without being followed by large amounts of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:50 PM
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I'm not sure you understand what status is, because social status is linked to socioeconomic level and type of job. Being a broke musician i.e. the 'starving artist' isn't high status. Being a famous musician would be high, but celebrity tends to be a separate group to the general scale of social status. Someone could be a doctor but introverted with not many friends and they'd still be high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:29 PM
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Of course it doesn't help - like I said, it makes them feel better. Justification, shifting responsibility. A lot of people's beliefs are relatively unproductive but they ameliorate the cognitive dissonance which is much easier lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 05:12 PM
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Attraction and sociability? Based on what source? Attraction isn't what you think it is i.e. necessarily physical. Those most attractive have to have the willingness + capacity to help us meet our goals. Source
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:41 PM
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The vast majority of women are highly selective, leaving most men to compete for a tiny fraction of attention. Many would say that this is a reflection of what happens in RL away from the apps too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:33 PM
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I guess if they're saying women have super high expectations it makes them feel better about receiving no female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 11:58 AM
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This sounds interesting. I will have to look into it. No I hadn't heard about the Gloria Steinberg / CIA thing. I've found the last (and first I've seen) few comments of yours really funny. Especially the bit about POF / Craigslist contributing to 30% of the chaos of your 20s (words to the effect).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:52 AM
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Totally agree! Laughed at the fat women and feminism comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 10:04 PM
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Neither. But I did actually forget about the debate aspect, as it happens. Thanks for the reminder :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 10:01 PM
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Do you think it's a new option for men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:57 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:50 PM
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I know an interrogation when I see one lol. The couple I was referring to have been together over 15 years. The person asking me questions above would undoubtedly be looking at ways to make me out to be the baddie,.. and are looking for an argument. Which isn't how I choose to spend my time on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:48 PM
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Personally, no. Which is why I'm single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:45 PM
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If they don't want to go then they don't go. The best person to decide whether therapy is right for them is themselves. It's not your decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:06 PM
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What sort of weird interrogation is this? Lol. Someone's aggy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:14 PM
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Oh dear. A lot manosphere nonsense vocabulary here. I've never had a divorce. Not sure where you got that from lol. Victims? What's uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:12 PM
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I'm not really in a circle and not connected with trophy wives etc. This particular couple they're both on their second marriage. I dunno, she said he's a lot of fun and I imagine it was the idea of stability for current and future kids. But I'm just making guesses. I'd not make generalisations based on anecdotes. But the rich man / attractive woman idea is an evolutionary concept which still holds some truth I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:10 PM
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Men aren't stupid. They can tell. Do you really think it's such a rare thing that a woman marries for money while the man marries for looks? It's the oldest story in the book. They aren't deluded into thinking they're adonises, they're aware of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:39 PM
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I can't speak on behalf of all women. And judging me based on a friend's behaviour is bizarre. What I don't have an issue with is what I see as a happy family. People have to make cost benefit analyses and decisions sometimes. We put up with certain things due to other benefits and ultimately make decisions based on what's important to us. Her husband is a grown man who is able to make his own decisions. He's not oblivious to the situation and chooses to live it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:17 PM
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Totally agree. I find it weird how reductionist and formulaic they are about it. It's a really miserable way to look at life. But I suppose that's what caused them to resort to such strategies in the first place. Failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:08 PM
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Was that really worth writing out? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:01 PM
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I wasn't suggesting anything about sex in relation to the 15 years. But they have built a life together and with lots of kids and family obligations, sex becomes much less of a priority. I haven't attempted to make any excuses. There would be no need. But as a friend of the family I see them living a very full life of holidays, festivals, their children's weddings and becoming grandparents etc. Not everyone is champing at the bit for female attention with nothing but sex on their mind lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:49 PM
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It's not something I'd settle for myself. But they're very happy. He has a daughter from a previous marriage, she 2 daughters and they have a daughter together. It definitely doesn't mean they don't have sex. Women put up with certain things, act etc. There's a lot of nuance out there in real life that won't match up with nonsense learned in the manosphere and these forums. The idea of him paying for services or finding someone else would be nothing but hilarious to him. They've been together fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:32 PM
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What do the men have China have to do with anything? LOL. I specifically said male friends, partners, and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:24 PM
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Cool. I mean, they definitely don't all have that. But I understand what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:22 PM
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There is value in male partners, friends, family aside from only wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:18 PM
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I haven't forgotten anything. I think I was viewing them as equally important. In fact I have friends who genuinely don't find their husband physically attractive but there are aspects of his personality and ability to provide them the lifestyle they want that make the marriage, family etc with them worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:15 PM
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Not agreeing with you doesn't mean misunderstanding. Men do have values aside from making money. You're talking about an awfully reductionist idea of human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:11 PM
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But it was you who wrote a list? A lot of women have a list of must haves, red flags etc pertaining to things that either meet or contradicted their values. Such as political persuasion, sometimes things like veganism, views on certain things, personality traits, attitude towards health etc. It's wise to do so to save wasting time and energy on people who aren't suitably matched.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:07 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:58 PM
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So do women. That's not a male specific value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:57 PM
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Your 'what women care about' list is far too basic. Lists of must haves vary greatly between different women and further to that it's about the energy of the person when in their company.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:56 PM
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I didn't 'come with energy' especially for either gender. A quick link on the rise in female breadwinners: https://www.royallondon.com/about-us/media/media-centre/press-releases/archive/female-breadwinner-rise/ The more that rise continues, expectations will obviously change with it in time. It's spelled 'strict' not 'strick' lol. The rest of your questions I don't feel are relevant to what I have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:41 PM
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Well it looks as if so long as you're a man that isn't embarrassing to be associated with or behaving in a way to evoke revenge, you should be fine. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:00 PM
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We don't need your help, feminism is about redressing the imbalance of the patriarchy so that there is equality across genders. I also echo what everyone has said about the selfishness of your post and how men who intend to be feminists do so out of empathy for women and girls. I am wondering if this post has been written as a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:55 PM
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There's no such thing as the 'male loneliness epidemic', it's just loneliness, gender irrespective. Unless you're referring to more men being single, which is something completely different with its own explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:49 PM
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We expect men to take on the role of provider and protector, This is an outdated concept. Both of these roles are taken on by both individuals in a relationship. Female breadwinners are becoming more and more common. Couples protect each other and there are many men out there who are in no better physical state to protect a female from a physical attack than they are to protect themselves. It sounds like a strange idea tbh and unnecessary given how easy it would be to arrange a paternity test if…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:36 PM
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They are perfectly reasonable standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:14 PM
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treat women as if they’re of an entirely different sub category of human Women are dehumanised entirely. These guys appear to try and strategise their way into women's focus. It's really just a sign of how distant they are from women and their lack of experience of being around them in real life. Or socialisation in general. Basement dwellers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:11 AM
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Nah, we're perfectly capable of making money for ourselves. This idea is rather outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:55 PM
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Rage? My favourite discourse on women-hating men recently is their closet homosexuality. And my does it show lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:33 PM
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Modern women? As opposed to what? Historical? Lol. I'm sure it feels better using that thought process when you're in no place to be attracting a woman, modern or not, in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:19 PM
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I can't answer what the point is as I'm not a man. I was simply explaining what women contribute to relationships. In response to a poster who said it was just sex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:28 PM
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You need to provide reliable sources. It's not about what you think LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:43 AM
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You're talking nonsense. Lol. If you take the time to read my comments and fact check perhaps rather than just throwing out BS that fits your own bias perhaps? It stopped both of those I was talking to from replying because they'd run out of their own BS ideas to contest it. If you have evidence based arguments for precise things I've said we can talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:40 AM
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Generally proven. Google them yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:35 AM
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No it doesn't lol. I've not talked about any like that poster did. And I've been talking about proven ideas in dating and marriage in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:05 AM
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I accidentally responded to the wrong person with this before, but you were talking about the lack of things women bring to a relationship. The majority of divorces (69%) are instigated by women and that's due to reasons such as: newfound economic independence, feeling unsupported due to carrying most of the emotional labour in the marriage, being seen as primarily responsible for domestic duties, lack of support in their careers particularly when highly successful, women are now less tolerant o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:32 AM
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I didn't say men were particularly open to marriage. We were talking about what women contribute to a relationship. Where are you getting that 20% figure from? Financial independence is a perfectly reasonable attainment for women these days. The idea that they would need to rely on a man for money was true historically, but not now. I'm not sure there's anywhere else to go with the convo tbh. One of the reasons marriage rates are declining is because women are preferring to focus on their career…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:27 AM
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Sometimes they care, sometimes not. It depends on what they want from the relationship. But being a higher earner is correlated with a lot of other qualities that are desirable such as intelligence, ambition, stability, and ability in their field. It's not necessarily the money that we're after. Plus, things are changing with regard the traditional setup of previous relationship dynamics. There are many variations such as the idea of a stay at home dad, and the woman continuing to work alongside…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:10 AM
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This is all based on your personal opinion or experience. I'm talking about generally speaking. It sounds like you've had a lot of poor experiences with women so you've generalised, and not just that but misunderstood the value we bring to relationships. In terms of finance I'm not talking about a gender comparison of averages, I meant the fact that women simply don't need men for money anymore. That's why the marriage rate is declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:51 AM
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This is such an outdated view nowadays. Women's salaries and career opportunities are high enough that they're seldom looking to men for financial stability anymore. That's why marriage rates are declining :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:49 PM
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Emotional support, children, half the chores.. as a few examples of what women offer inside relationships. The idea of a relationship being expensive to a man specifically, is antiquated. Women have much higher salaries these days and a significantly reduced need to rely on men for financial stability. It's why marriage rates are declining :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:46 PM
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What do you mean by normal? Many women are child free and want to be single or in a relationship with a women because we don't have to rely on men anymore. That's neither abnormal or unfeminine. What is your perspective on the original topic? Everything I've said is relevant. What do you mean by working for commitment? What does this look like in a woman's behaviour? Also what do you believe are masculine incentives?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:05 PM
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My point was that value is present in many things other than reproducing and marrying and also that women have many other incentives in life that don't include either. And this doesn't make them any less female. Like I said, a lot of women who have had children would have been better off not. I'm thinking of women living off welfare with 5 kids. They may well be married but I struggle to see where this value you speak of comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:04 PM
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They certainly are valuable. In fact I'd rate the value of a female scientist far higher than the value of a woman who's only achievements in life were to get married and knocked up 🤣 Many who have passed their genes along would do as well not to have bothered lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:53 PM
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Not all women want those things. So they aren't female incentives per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:22 PM
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Maybe don't listen to: right-wing, conservative, redpill and SAHM communities !! They aren't healthy and don't have your best interests at heart. Concentrate on whether your situation feels right to you. That's all that matters. What is it that is drawing you to these communities initially?
/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 08:57 AM
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female incentives How are you defining the idea of getting married and having kids as 'female incentives'?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:12 AM
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Given that I'm not emotionally invested in this topic like you seem to be, it's neither blaming or resolving. All I did is point out some facts around male treatment of women. It was in response to you saying that men should not be blamed for preferring youth in women, which I agree with - what I don't agree with is men infringing on women's human rights in order to satisfy that preference. With regard the issues being resolved, progress has been made but we continue to encounter significant iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:22 PM
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So, do you want to actually look at the issues and try and resolve them, or do you want to continue to believe that only women face issues and to blame men, which will cause more resentment and lead nowhere? I have no resentment towards men. It's not on women to resolve the issues of the patriarchy though, it's the responsibility of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:05 PM
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You are not providing any evidence for your claims. Here is the explanation around height and wealth: Source
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:02 PM
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Because there are many many different ways of measuring and defining health. Try doing some reading and then you might understand. This page goes into more detail about types of health and the effects height has on these: Source
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:55 PM
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Define strenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:44 PM
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Exactly, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:43 PM
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I didn't make them up at all. I've linked the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:29 PM
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For me it's about what is evidenced rather than my opinion. So it doesn't really matter whether it's agreed with, it's just true. With regard that so called hypocrisy - the problem is that men statistically behave as if they have an entitlement to women's sexuality and attractiveness or just the woman in general. Statistics from Dr Jessica Taylor in the UK demonstrate that 99% of women have been the victim of at least 1 sexual assault and the majority of these happen before the female has reache…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:31 PM
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Everyone has to work for them in the same way, it's just that taller men are significantly more associated with these traits. A lot of it has to do with the increased social confidence that taller men have and how that translates into e.g. job opportunities due to perception of interviewers etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:25 PM
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Taller men are evidenced to be healthier, stronger, more confident, successful, intelligent, educated, and wealthier than short men. It's not just about the height itself, it's what it symbolises. On average women are happiest when their partner is 21cm taller than they are. Source
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:18 PM
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No. Both men and women look for higher earners as a potential mate, in women, this is more pronounced. However it is important for both men and women, 'how' the money was obtained. People have a higher preference for people who 'earn' their money as opposed getting it via inheritance or a lottery win. Intelligence is the trait women tend to find more attractive than money itself because it signals competence. Further to this, physical attractiveness has to meet the other person's minimum thresho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:28 AM
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It's more about compatibility than specific traits in mate selection these days. Different individuals have different needs and wants, hence attraction being about the capacity and willingness to meet the other person's goals. It doesn't specify those goals in the research. In the Oxford Handbook of Evolutionary Psychologyand Romantic Relationships (2023) they talk about the findings of mate selection and refine it to the '3 Cs' which are 'Competence, Compassion, and Compatibility.'
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:58 AM
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The women like rich and men like youth thing is evolutionarily programmed from a time when women needed a provider for their future children and men needed a fertile woman. But those desires, certainly on the woman's side are becoming less and less now that women are able to earn well for themselves. Take myself for instance, I'm a high earning woman who isn't interested in a rich man so much as someone with a strong intellect. I'd date a poor scientist but I'd not be interested in dating a gran…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:58 AM
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I think it's quite reductionist and uninformed to think that there are particular behaviours for women and particular for men. Obviously all humans are capable of bad behaviour. Women on the whole don't fall for the same sort of thing. In Psychology it's been found that people are most attracted to a person who has the capacity and willingness to meet their goals, or support them to. Your speculations also wouldn't make sense given the presence of same gender relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:22 PM
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So there's social norms which you're describing in the first part of your comment. Then there's personality. But people grow and change and you have to update your perception of them as that happens. It's not so algorithmic that you wouldn't encounter unpredictable behaviour in a human. I don't think it's the right word to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:55 PM
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Why haven't you left your flat in 3 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 09:37 PM
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Can you elaborate on how girls are algorithms?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 09:33 PM
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just looking for new bodies. see women as too equal to them. even consider women as more than just for sex. What a shitshow this post is, lol. Have you considered at all how a 'fat, old, ugly' girl might feel if they are being used for practice? Or does it just not matter due to the aforementioned perceived characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:48 PM
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just to see whats the fuzz is about...but probably would not stick to it (eh eh) Haha :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:21 PM
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Just as well, LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:46 PM
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I said in female only social groups. They are called out by women. You're talking nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:59 PM
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Oh that's not true at all. The bitchiness that exists amongst some female-only social groups is rife and vicious. They are certainly being called out lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:44 PM
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But that's not something particular to women. It's people in general. I don't know why you've specified this to be about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:39 PM
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What actions do you believe women need to take accountability for?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:35 PM
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Haha what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:29 PM
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It's not possible for them to reduce something which is biological. Although the prevelance of taking e.g. SSRI medicaation certainly helps. There are now 'AI girlfriends' which may help to fill the void for desperate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:57 AM
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have women really become as bad as you say It's not that women have become bad, it's a method used by men who can't attract any women in their own country.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:10 AM
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So true lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:58 AM
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The best option is probably college, but male enrollment has declined dramatically. Has it? (Source?) Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:55 AM
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never down That's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:51 AM
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They're generally thought of masculine traits perhaps but it doesn't make it bad if women have them. Otherwise we would have been submissive to men and allowed them to take charge of important things in the world till the end of time. Which would be dire.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:01 AM
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That's your perception. Not what I've seen, women are managing to have more of a voice than they used to and that's great. In general, everyone is fatter, men included. Higher socioeconomic demographics lesser so with more access to better health.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:45 AM
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Less attractive than what? And how are you measuring that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:32 AM
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Women have progressed to the same degree since 100 years ago too so it's obsolete really.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:07 AM
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Most men can be significantly more attractive than they currently are. They just choose not to put in the work & blame women for having too high standards. Yes! Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:24 PM
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Are you suggesting that women who go for highly attractive men weren't batting within their league to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:26 PM
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It's a benefit for women, trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:48 PM
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Trad school is by no means equivalent contribution between genders. It is widely known that women shoulder far more of the work in a marriage with children than the man does, via domestic, child-rearing, and paid work activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:47 PM
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Nonsense. I'm a woman and don't need a man to provide, and I'm intelligent so need the guy to be intelligent too. Otherwise, I get bored and they don't feel like an appropriate match. Single women are more successful than single men, there are twice as many single female homeowners, than single male homeowners. We're doing fine providing for ourselves. Regarding people being smart for a lot of things but dumb for others, that's not a gender-specific characteristic. It is normal for people to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:45 PM
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Well, the comment is sarcastic, but the we I was referring to is women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:46 AM
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I'd love someone who could work a wok.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:34 AM
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Avril?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:34 AM
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Well he's not wearing dirty clothes and working as a janitor for a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:33 AM
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We get it, women's expectations are too high. We should all just do more of the housework, rearing the kids, and receiving less income and shutup about it! At least give us the illusion of an idyllic experience to begin with, with those first dates!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:29 AM
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What is your source for that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:22 AM
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This is from your link: Although the uncontrolled gender pay gap has closed by one cent in 2023, there remains a disparity in how men and women are paid. The presence of the uncontrolled gender pay gap tells us the distribution of high-earning prestigious jobs in society favors men, while the presence of the controlled gender pay gap tells us that women are still being paid less than men when doing the same jobs. As our data will show, the gap is wider for women of color, for women at higher job…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:15 PM
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You didn't read the whole paragraph. It means the same level of work, I.e. the same value in different industries. It's not me who needs to work on their comprehension :) The gender pay gap is still alive and well unfortunately. Hence the UK government monitoring efforts to reduce it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:12 PM
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I'm tempted. What were the best things about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:53 PM
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Men don't need porn to say stupid things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:52 PM
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That last line. Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:51 PM
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Or he has a cheap car.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:49 PM
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The gender pay gap has not been debunked https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/earningsandworkinghours/bulletins/genderpaygapintheuk/2022 What else do you think has been debunked?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:25 AM
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When you say 'traditional', which traditions are the term based on? The happiest people are single childless women, so you're correct. One of many sources
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:42 PM
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Yes sure. I agree that everyone's values are different. It's interesting to see the difference between descriptions of HVM versus HVW.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:44 PM
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Haha! Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:39 PM
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Did you take a picture of a stranger in a store?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:36 PM
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Sweden is not a country full of people with those attributes. That's a stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:57 AM
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What on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:53 AM
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Poor parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:52 AM
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So do attractive men who are neurotypical. There are people with engaging personalities and people without in both the category of neurotypical and Autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:51 AM
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Do you think this effects only men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:49 AM
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So it's a combination of biological (adrenalin and liking the way a person smells e.g.), psychological (seeking people out who support your values), and insofar as location and culture; that's really just about who is available. Source
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 07:39 AM
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Yes! In fact I'd say it's socially undesirable to discuss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 07:04 AM
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It's wild isn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 07:02 AM
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It doesn't mean any of the things you listed. Fit in comparison to what? Maybe he's just opportunistic and finds a lot of drunk women in bars. Doesn't mean he deserves a medal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 07:02 AM
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This is a list of examples of how the current patriarchy is expressed in the West: Patriarchal Legal system – In patriarchal societies, the laws and rules are biased towards males. Legal provisions and laws are in favor of men, which leaves women exposed. For example, a patriarchal legal system may require men to sign documents on behalf of their wives. The Gender Pay Gap – To this day, women are often paid less than men for the same work. Women tend to do more part-time and precarious work, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:41 AM
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It can be helpful. There's lots of different options and there's nothing wrong with paying for childcare - it's been used throughout time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:40 PM
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Yeah! I can imagine it would be depressing to have no contact with other adults, socially, is problematic. And I imagine a child would grow up unhealthily dependent if they were never away from their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:36 PM
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You're generalising far too much for the variability in family life and relationships that we have evolved to have these days. It's not about articles. Especially when you were searching for articles to support your view. There's articles about everything. Families with SAHDs can work, the woman being the higher earner, the woman running her own business from home, single women adopting children or using a sperm donor, same gender relationships. In fact, what's your take on who should be the pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:34 PM
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​ What's fun for you to learn is that single women are far more successful than single men, not just independent. Twice as many single women are homeowners than single men. I would hazard a guess that you guys are more of a drain than an added value to women, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:29 PM
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Exactly, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:19 PM
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Everyone wants fun at 25 don't they? I disagree about the idea of 40 year old women being willing to bend on standards. For what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:55 PM
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Attraction is biological not societally based.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:52 PM
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Have you heard of masking? Was it ABA 'training'?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:33 PM
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Thanks for the tip :) How would you define status?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:32 PM
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LOL. I'm doing nothing of the sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:18 PM
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I don't negate that. But that's the same for someone who doesn't have Autism too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:56 PM
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Despite the inability to maintain basic hygiene?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:55 PM
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I haven't at any point said people are lying lol. It's just a term I've heard bandied around and I was interested to see what it means to people. This is a debate forum, so I don't think it's out of place for me to challenge ideas I don't agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:39 PM
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Cool, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:26 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:09 PM
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Especially when they see that so many women end up single mothers anyways. Haha, true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:08 PM
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What does SMV stand for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:07 PM
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How are you defining Autistic people's 'problems'? Autism isn't something you treat, it doesn't get better - but being in a supportive environment certainly helps. Why you would use such a dreadful example (Chris Chan) I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:05 PM
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I don't think anyone mentioned bad behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:04 PM
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Correct and any hindrance to socialising makes it more difficult to find a partner / sustain relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:03 PM
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The 1950s called, they want you to return to where you came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:48 AM
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No I'm not implying that. The mother is the primary caregiver in most cases though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:39 AM
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Exactly! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:37 AM
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Well there's a higher priority to support women avoiding homelessness because they usually have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:30 AM
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No one draws cash anymore. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:05 AM
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I'm sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:02 AM
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Its not obvious. Everything about my situation is my choice. Its not through lack of men finding me attractive lol. Have you seen the state of men? Or perhaps that's too close to home.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:53 AM
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What has given you the impression that men aren't attracted to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:51 AM
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I asked the question in order to get the general consensus on what people mean when they use the term. It seems as if the majority who use it here are sexist pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:47 AM
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I think the problem is that you're generalising which is very unrealistic. Many men aren't threatened by a successful woman and don't need them to be submissive and without any ambition of their own in order to feel like a man. Healthy relationships involve making decisions together and supporting each other to reach your goals. Women don't need to climb anything in order to make money. Thankfully the amount of women starting their own businesses is rising and they can also have children alongsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:43 AM
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What do you mean by their situation? E.g. I'm in my situation because I've never met a man worth my time and energy long term. What do you mean by masculine? Are you saying women who have money can't be feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:31 AM
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They'd be at school. It's not just being cooped up in an office. That's not the only job option. Plus it's important for adults to have adult social interaction. What will she do after the children become adults? Women are more than capable of having a career and having kids these days which is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:25 AM
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It doesn't take 40 years to raise a child. She could be self employed. Or at least working part time. I can't imagine many women would like to have no salary and have no aspirations apart from raising children. They'd be at school most of the time. How boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:20 AM
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Raises her kids? That's bleak. So she doesn't have a career?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:13 AM
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So if she has a lower salary she can't boss you around? What if she progresses to earn more while you're together?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:01 AM
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You're right. It means that for high earners like myself the selection of men available is few. Why aren't you comfortable with a woman that earns more?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:53 PM
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Nonsense. A lot of it is down to culture. E.g. in Italy its normal for the woman to be the boss and make all decisions. There's also lots of relationships where the woman is the higher earned and has every right to be making the main decisions. Being unwilling to relinquish control is a human trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:26 PM
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Are you saying that being submissive is synonymous with femininity? And that thinking for one's self is only associated with masculinity? How happy does your partner appear to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:12 PM
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Oh that's sounds really depressing for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:08 PM
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In everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:51 PM
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What do you mean by submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:47 PM
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Aggression isn't a personality trait, it's a behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:06 PM
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Muppet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:01 PM
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Well first of all that's not true and secondly you said they enjoy violent aggressive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:00 PM
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Where are you getting the idea about each gender caring about certain aspects of social capital? Social capital doesn't have to include all factors, one is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:50 PM
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Did you just say women enjoy being on the receiving end of violence and aggression?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:48 PM
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Satire? Have you not seen the rates of domestic violence that force so many women to escape their homes?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:37 PM
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Let's put it this way. The 20 year old is a much better lay than he is. Men leaving their wives for younger women happens a lot. What is your theory on why this happens if not for there higher rate of sexual capital?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:35 PM
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Attractiveness and socioeconomic status tend to be positively correlated. I don't agree that the majority of men would sleep with a homeless woman and consider them to be high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:22 PM
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And how would you argue it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:16 PM
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How do you define femininity?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:15 PM
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That's socioeconomic background. There isn't really a phrase 'sociological background'. Sociology is the study of society. So if something is sociological it refers to the study of society not a person. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:14 PM
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Yes, but as people get older there's such a thing as social stratification. Do you still want to fornicate with them if they're homeless?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:11 PM
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It wasn't me that said men were hypergamous to begin with. I was referring to the idea of a 40 year old man leaving their wife to be with a 20 year old woman. Men would be influenced by all of the definition of sexual capital. And all factors detailed in that definition would be higher in a 20 year old than 40 year old woman. Typically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:08 PM
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I read a lot! Hypergamy (colloquially referred to as "dating up" or "marrying up") is a term used in social science for the act or practice of a person dating or marrying a spouse of higher caste, social status or sexual capital than themselves. Source
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:03 PM
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No. Out of interest though, how are you defining value?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:01 PM
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The 20 year old has higher sexual capital.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:00 PM
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Attractive women don't have a higher social status without the right socioeconomic status. Sexual capital and social status are different independent factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:59 PM
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I see. So how long have you 2 been single?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:57 PM
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I see. So how long have you 2 been single?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:56 PM
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What happens if she develops mental health issues during the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:36 PM
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