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I think there are a few things going on here: Girls that are super chill, low-maintenance, etc. can be perceived as not caring and/or boring. If you are always like "meh, ok" with your guy, he is going to think you aren't particularly enthusiastic. Likewise, girls that never get jealous set off a guy's spider sense. We want our women to be a little possessive. When you cry, get emotional, etc., it might be telling your guy that you have thrown everything you have into the relationship. So instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 08:15 PM
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You are mate-guarding Stop being insecure and naive: you need to think of yourself as a king, and this other dude as a worthless interloper. Unless the chick I was dating was really special and potential marriage material, I couldn't care a less what she did when I wasn't around. I knew she would be back (and I was almost always right) She likes the attention she is getting from this dude--gives her affirmation. Of course she lied. When it comes to men, women lie all the time. even my female fri…
/r/askTRP03/02/20 03:40 PM
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The line from Casablanca: "Who are you really, and what were you before? What did you do and what did you think, huh?"
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/20 04:58 AM
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Calling women "plates" is dehumanizing. I think a better term can be used quite frankly. Guys shouldn't be complaining that women are shallow and superficial, and then turn around and call women "plates".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 03:21 PM
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I don't think men or women should be promiscuous. So #1 applies to both. Sure, women can have careers, but that often comes at the expense of family. The divorce rate among women with careers, especially among white-collar, high-achieving women, is much higher. So is the rate of infidelity (your wife the nurse will end up banging one of the doctors at the hospital where she works). Having tats doesn't make you an individual. Just makes you look like a trashy woman
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:03 PM
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I want better behavior from both men and women. I want a better culture. Some objectives: Women with high N counts need to be criticized, shamed, and put on sexual probation (at the very least). If they don't get their act together, they should be excluded from the list of appropriate women that men should consider marrying. Younger women will then get the message: if you act like a whore and engage in AF/BB strategy, expect to be treated badly. For women to be focused on home and family and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:09 PM
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that is 100% true. Too bad I didn't realize it until too late, although I had a suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 08:26 PM
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as a married guy wasn't looking for anything sexual from her, so the beta orbiter thing doesn't apply 100% here, but I suspected that was what she wanted to some degree --so I shot that nonsense down when I realized where this was going
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 07:57 PM
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Are there support groups or conventions for people with the same condition? It sounds like a challenge, but not one that cannot be overcome. I am 6'1 and I dated a girl in college who was 6'6 (she was the center for the women's basketball team). I never really thought about her height being a negative. I later dated a girl who was 6'2 for 3 years. Elena Della Donne of the WNBA is 6'5 and she's a babe. Some men might be intimidated because they figure that you won't date anyone shorter than yours…
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/20 06:22 PM
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Two different issues really Men engaging in self-betterment, trying to improve their SMV and lives. Women's behavior, or natural inclinations The first one doesn't have that much to do with the second, and men should NOT be judging their self-worth against the opinions of capricious women. You need to be the man other men admire and look up to. Being a better man will help you get attention from women, but that is not why you should be a better men. being a "bad boy" or outright dbag because you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:08 PM
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work, wife and family. If both spouses are focused on career, the marriage goes to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:15 PM
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Wife needs to be focused on family, husband, and home. If she is focused on career and shopping, you will grow apart, and likely end up divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:22 PM
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No, you are not screwed. Let me speak from example: I met my wife when I was 29 and she was 33. We met at a swing dancing class, and after having a fun night, she actually gave her phone number to me. I was flattered and surprised (I was a bit shy with women, and was never comfortable asking for numbers in bars, etc.) So called her up and arranged a date. I met her outside her apartment and she was in a pretty green dress, looking very feminine, like a cute girl from the country. I then thought …
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/20 04:30 PM
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Women should NOT have the attitude that "the guy who shows the most effort and chases me the most is the attractive one". It sounds counter-intuitive, but the guys who don't do this are the ones women should make themselves available to. Those guys are the ones who don't need female affirmation and attention to bolster their self-esteem, are typically focused on more important things than the single life, and are not "players" or cads. Now once a woman has sent the proper signals and has opened …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:29 AM
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You could also say that pretty much none of this works MGTOW: defeatist and leads to ultimate loneliness (no family, etc.). All good when you are young--not so much when you get older FDS: women who practice this end up with HVM, but those men don't look at them as high-value women, and ultimately end up cheating, or stringing women along with promises of marriage, etc. Bluepill: might work in some cases, but in other instances men settle for low-quality woman, marry down, and succumb to feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 06:32 PM
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I never invited or asked out twice. If I get a "no" answer, or some bullshit, I moved on and didn't look back now if the girl approached me later and wanted to get together, with concrete plans, sure. But I was never the type to pester a chick or chase her, especially after sleeping with her. soft next this
/r/askTRP02/01/20 06:21 PM
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first-night hookups are burger-and-fries. Low-quality women never did much for me Finding a quality girl always improved my feelings of satisfaction, status, and accomplishment. But yeah, I feel the red pill rage sometimes too
/r/askTRP02/01/20 05:20 PM
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all that is good, and sex should be part of the vetting process, but I wouldn't jump right into bed with any dude. It sounds old-school, but guys wake up the next morning and wonder how many times you did that before. That is when they start vetting you, and it isn't a positive. so make him wait a bit, have some romance, vet him as much as possible, and then take him for a test drive. If it goes well, carry on.
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/20 05:17 PM
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There was a lack of attraction. She was keeping you around for reasons other than sex. I had a similar situation back in my 20s. Started dating a girl who had hooked up with one of my friends the second time she met him. She was very hot, and she kept me waiting for sex. She let it slip one night that my friend was "fine", which pretty much indicated she was in it for sex. But she did dump him almost immediately afterwards. I reflected on it a bit: the dude was a bit better looking than me. Mayb…
/r/askTRP02/01/20 04:59 PM
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depends what you mean by quality women. If it is just looks, and you are already bagging the top 20% (8/10), I don't see much of an issue. I rarely see 9s and 10s. Maybe my standards are really high for that, but women in that zone are pretty elite: like Rachel Skarsten, Alicia Vikander, Antje Traue, Heida Reed, etc. Unless you look like a fucking god and have deep pockets and serious status, you aren't getting with women in that category. But quality also means Good character and ideology (hone…
/r/askTRP02/01/20 04:52 PM
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While some men are out to simply get as much sex as possible, that isn't the norm. My guy friends and I were out to find high-quality women we could fall in love with. Most of us wanted LTRs. Sure, there were a couple players who slept with low-quality women, but at least in my world, most guys were not like that. I broke up with a few women when I realized there was no long-term prospect, and that I didn't respect them a whole lot (they were promiscuous, unreliable, etc.). I wasn't a guy who wa…
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/20 04:14 PM
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best thing to do is serve as a role-model and try to raise ethical kids with a moral compass. Some will still rebel, but we can do our best
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/20 06:59 PM
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I am not really talking about divulging details of a rape or assault--that is a separate matter. I think the husband should probably know it happened, but no details are needed. I am talking more about sexual history
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/20 06:58 PM
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I am in a big discussion about this on another forum, and it is pretty simple: For yourself, come to terms with your decisions, and don't try to say to yourself "oh, I was young and stupid", or "I was talked into that". We need to say "I knew what I was doing, there were reasons for it, and those reasons were not good ones. I have since found better character and ideology". When discussing your past with a LTR or husband, do NOT be vague, defensive, or lie. Don't minimize anything, and be transp…
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/20 05:28 PM
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to some extent yes, but Mary does have ideals and is of strong character. Elizabeth is even more interesting (if you got that far in the show) Mary learns to be pragmatic, decisive, and assertive, while maintaining femininity. But she still "wants it all". Elizabeth better commands her situation, understands the sacrifices that are necessary (marrying for political reasons).
/r/askTRP01/01/20 04:25 PM
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someone has been drinking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 05:35 AM
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A good show with feminine role-models is the series "Reign" about Mary Queen of Scots
/r/askTRP01/01/20 01:31 AM
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sounds like some depression and self-esteem issues. Maybe a lot of trouble at work?
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/20 12:37 AM
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I guess it depends what he did. Infidelity?
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/19 08:37 PM
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this is going to sound a bit silly, but I was watching this tv show with my wife called "Reign" about Mary Queen of Scots. At one point, Mary is raped pretty brutally, and the viewers are left wondering how she is going to handle it. The way she does handle it is pretty good and inspiring. I recommend checking out (on Netflix)
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/19 02:52 PM
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well yes for sure. I am married, and I make a point to stay in good shape (same waste size as when I was 18), be good to my wife, be a good father, etc. It takes ongoing effort and commitment. There are lots of guys who get fat, don't care, etc. They have no one but themselves to blame when their wife monkey-branches.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:49 PM
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No --I am merely giving a truthful answer as to how men might perceive these issues. A lot of guys can overlook the high N count (my wife's is double mine), but the rape thing is going to be a tough one. If you find a LTR, that guy is going to need to be sure that the rape isn't going to become an ongoing issue, or create trust issues. It takes a lot of therapy and strength to get through that obviously. As for being a plate, no woman should tolerate that. When I was dating back in my 20s, a hot…
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/19 02:47 PM
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If you were a stripper, we have to assume you have a nice figure, and you are only 27, so you still have youth. You also have a good career. I always say be honest with anyone you are going to get into a LTR with, or anyone you intend on marrying. That being said, the stripper thing isn't a big deal. A body count of 30 at 27 is another issue. Some guys won't have an issue with that, but most guys will, and some won't even consider dating a girl with that kind of sexual history. Just being honest…
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/19 02:49 AM
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that's not reality: studies show that 90% of women get custody and over 75% get the property.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:50 PM
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I was just talking to this about my wife last night. I have a policy not to stay in contact with, or include any ex-girlfriends in my social media. No FB friending, texts, emails, etc. My wife follows the same policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:50 PM
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"Average" men of moderate means should not marry. Women's hypergamy, mate-switching behavior, and the pressures of our culture make marriage a losing proposition for these men, and many realize it. We have a 50% divorce rate in the US with 70% of the women initiating. The percentage of women in marriages that are cheating has gone up dramatically in the last few decades (despite what some official stats say --women lie), especially among "career women". And we all know what happens to the guy in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:31 PM
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it should be, and that is the problem pretty hard to tell girls to behave one way when you are doing the opposite--and they don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:04 PM
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there are a lot of very attractive men with very low N counts. Such men might be shy around women, or simply don't like to sleep around
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:58 PM
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This isn't rocket science Men who whore around and engage in ONS while complaining about sluts and hypergamy are hypocrites I never looked for casual sex from women, even though I probably could have gotten quite a bit. I always looked for women of decent quality to have relationships with. Some were long-term, and others only lasted a few months. By my late 20s, I was looking for Miss Right, and thinking about marriage and kids. I always had impulse control and didn't let my lust control me. Di…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:53 PM
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I'm not gay, but I am under the impression that many gay men like masculinity, muscles, and assertiveness. Sure, there are the effeminate queens, but most of the gay guys I've seen in my city look, and even act, masculine so I'm not sure "going gay" for unnatural men is a good option
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 07:10 PM
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Simply say "oh, I'm a man, I assure you" and smile it off
/r/askTRP28/12/19 03:12 PM
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and here is the other scary thing: I am in my late 40s, and back in the day, when we were teenagers, or in our 20s, AIDS was still a big scary thing. So pretty much ALL of us used condoms ALWAYS. No one wanted to test those waters. These days? Woman are getting pounded bare-back by guys by default. Two of my female friends have HPV. One got another STD years ago. There have been several pregnancies.
/r/askTRP27/12/19 09:00 PM
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I am in my late 40s, and I have known a lot of women. The absolute lowest N count among all of them was 6. Most had N counts 2 - 3 times that. My wife's is much higher than mine. Welcome to the 21st century. Is it bothersome? Sure, but don't waste mental energy on it. Don't worry about shit you have no control over. I would be a lot more concerned about her "good career path". Career women are not suitable for LTRs and certainly not for marriage. So why waste your time with this?
/r/askTRP27/12/19 06:56 PM
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I don't know where the hate for Derrick comes in. I listened to a few of his videos, and he makes sense for the most part. Maybe I'm not seeing something
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:18 PM
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Depends on the time of day. I am a guy in my late 40s In the morning when I wake up, I typically lay there and think about sex (hormones are high at that hour) If I am bored at work, my mind might wander Strangely enough, when I think about sex, it almost never involves me. I might fantasize about some encounter between a girl and guy, or some dirty scenario, but I don't inject myself into it very often. Maybe I am just voyeuristic? I have often wondered if girls do that--or if they always invol…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:14 PM
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I had a buddy over to my house to help with some interior painting. He worked as a painter many years before. So he starts painting the walls, and I start on another section of the house. He tells me "put the brush down. I got this. You don't know what you are doing". So I did. This guy's wife probably takes pride in keeping the house in order, and she has a system. She enjoys cooking the meals. If she isn't asking for help, and doesn't need it, he should back off.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/19 04:05 PM
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Dread protocols need to be initiated at the very least, while you start looking around for another girl. She is keeping plan B on speed-dial, and is probably in physical contact with that guy. Don't get played, and don't be stupid
/r/askTRP27/12/19 03:43 PM
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Relationships should never feel like "work", and they should never stress you out. If this guy is being severe, playing games (withholding time and affection, etc.), it is a problem. Leaving right after sex is classless. Sounds like he is trying to act like James Bond or something. He needs to grow up.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/19 12:40 AM
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I am wondering what these "shameful" experiences are that he speaks of? Stuff that he did, or stuff that woman did to him? (cheating, etc.)
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/19 04:39 PM
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Lust is something that is directed towards a woman, and plays out in a dramatic way that does not take into account her individuality, or even her personality. In English, we say one can "fall in love", while in Spanish, "in" is replaced with the preposition "with". When speaking of love, one philosopher remarks "It is not simply that I project myself toward her, but that I project myself with her" --and that means apprehending and understanding the person we go with. Authentic love is unrenounc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 03:56 PM
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oh no ...dad wanted to maintain status with my mom (who was from an upper-crust family) but also wanted to go whore around with bimbos An example of marrying down is the highly educated and wealthy industrialist marrying the flight attendant who grew up in a trailer park
/r/RedPillWomen25/12/19 01:56 AM
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I would say that most men don't want virgins. We want women with some experience, but not promiscuous women. A girl with a few prior partners is probably best A girl with 10+ is another story, but even then it can work out
/r/RedPillWomen25/12/19 01:52 AM
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Past performance is no guarantee of future results Al Bundy was a fuckboi in high school when he was playing football. Now he is a low value shoe salesman with a dad bod
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:52 PM
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the hypogamy is a big problem actually. I know guys who married down and the women was uncultured, not particularly bright, unreliable, and a liability. Doesn't mean poor or working class people are all like that by any means, but guys marrying white trash because they can't find a girl at their level isn't good. I grew up in *almost* the upper class (top 3% for sure). We had a huge house with marble floors in one of the most elite areas of the country. My mother was obsessed with etiquette, man…
/r/RedPillWomen24/12/19 07:33 PM
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Back in my 20s, I was pretty fit for the most part. Like 6'1 185lbs. Some muscles and could run, bike, etc. I wasn't ripped by any means. One time, when my GF was giving m a massage, she said my back muscles were "ropey" or undeveloped, and she said this with some disdain. I wasn't happy to hear that. Now I could have been in better shape for sure (and am now), but I was like WTF? Not every guy is built like Hugh Jackman. Some women have unrealistic expectations, and it is getting worse
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:24 PM
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yes, the definition seems to change at times, but it can be narrowed down to the following behaviors: The attempt to marry above one's social class or caste, and/or secure resources The tendency to engage in mate-switching (monkey-branching) when presented with a better option, even if the woman is already married or in a committed relationship that is happy and fulfilling. #1 really isn't a problem--a woman should aim high and try to get the best husband she can, who will provide for the family…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:04 PM
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again, not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:29 PM
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Finance / markets
/r/RedPillWomen24/12/19 03:29 PM
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well that's not an argument if you object to what I said, and have an alternative viewpoint, I am glad to hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:07 AM
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I'm actually not angry at women: I feel bad for them. They have bought into a bad ideology and are subverted by their own behavior (and so are men). I love women The issue is with the sexual market place, hypergamy, mate-switching (monkey-branching), and promiscuity. Instead of trying to find a man of good character and quality to settle down with when they are in their 20s, women sleep around while using online dating as a kind of sexual "candy store". They then end up in their early 30s with 8…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:56 AM
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men's reports are nonsense. Woman have many more partners and sex than men in 21st century USA. In the new age, average men and those under 5'10 are essentially frozen out of the mating pool, save for rare circumstances. the old studies are based off boomer stats and stuff from the 70s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:56 AM
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It is much easier for a woman to cheat, especially if she is attractive. For men it takes a lot of effort and planning. A woman can open a Tinder account and get laid that night. A vast majority of men who cheat on their wives do so because the wives gained 50 pounds after getting married, started shutting them down in the bedroom, became bitchy and bossy, stopped communicating, or started setting up side deals themselves (plan B guy). Guys are lazy, if they have a good homelife and wife, they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 04:26 PM
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I don't think you are disproving hypergamy. Women are presented with more choices than men in the sexual marketplace, and they feel compelled to explore those choices. Women are not necessarily inherently hypergamous, but they do have a biological drive to mate-switch (monkey-branch). The issue for men is not deciding whether or not women are inherently hypergamous, disloyal (43% have a plan B guy waiting in the wings, and 8 /10 are in contact with that backup man, and more women cheat now than …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 04:19 PM
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Not for me. I was decent looking, but couldn't get much of anything going in high school. Didn't lose my virginity until a couple days after my 20th birthday. I did date here and there in HS though, and there was one girl I really loved
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 04:11 AM
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not always. It depends A guy I work with isn't a Chad. He is like 5'9 and balding, but not ugly. He is like a 5-6 / 10 But, he is one of the smartest, most well-read guys I've ever encountered. Awesome to talk to. He has a great sense of humor, a job that pays 6 figures with good prospects for advancement. He is a terrific musician (guitar), dresses well. He is a pretty devout Catholic and completely honest. A dude that would never cheat, simply on principle. But he is frozen out of the dating s…
/r/RedPillWomen21/12/19 05:14 PM
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it is a vicious circle. The RP guys complain endlessly about female behavior (promiscuity, hypergamy, etc.), but it takes two to Tango. If men were not allowing such behavior to continue, and contributing to the culture that makes it possible it would not be happening. A vast majority of women could do much better than a hookup or FWB, and they know it. But women's magazines, television, and other women tell them "go for it!", and there is always some dude waiting out there who will make it happ…
/r/RedPillWomen21/12/19 05:04 PM
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I was 29 when I met my future wife (still married). Like you, I went through some crummy relationships, or ones I knew wouldn't work. But I tried to always have LTRs with some level of commitment. But check this out: I know a 31 year old girl who hasn't been in a relationship for like 5 years (no sex). It isn't because she isn't pretty--she's adorable. Not only that, she is smart, has a graduate degree, excellent career and owns a home. She is traditional in outlook, not some flaky leftist or fe…
/r/RedPillWomen21/12/19 04:49 PM
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that is another possibility for sure. Just as automation is disrupting the manufacturing and transportation sectors, the Internet is impacting dating and relationships in a huge way. The high value men may conclude (and are probably already concluding) that they can have virtual harems, and that marriage and kids would constrain them. But that is where we get into the difference between high value men and women. Traditionally, a high value woman is not simply attractive, but also smart, cultured…
/r/RedPillWomen21/12/19 04:37 PM
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I have had to tap into my Stoic philosophy to let that go. Yeah, it did bother me, and still bothers me a bit, but it isn't something that will impact our marriage.
/r/RedPillWomen21/12/19 04:17 PM
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it's very good. She is honest, reliable, and affectionate
/r/RedPillWomen21/12/19 05:14 AM
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dude, what are you doing ...? this is the #metoo era
/r/askTRP20/12/19 08:41 PM
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I think it is going to be more like the Middle-East, where 10-20% of the men have access to essentially all of the women, and vast numbers of men remain single, either unwillingly, or through choice The men in this 20% might have wives, but they will also have "kept women", or a kind of harem. The ugly women will be kept around as virtual servants or "Monday night dates", while the attractive ones will get a LTR or ring. Just as in the stock market, a small percentage of people will control the …
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/19 05:45 PM
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this x1000
/r/askTRP20/12/19 05:09 PM
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A lot of this is true, and good advice. However ... There are situations where the guy is positive, a good father, works hard, and is still fun, and the wife STILL cheats. I just had this happen to one of my friends. The guy in question has a good blue-collar job (probably makes close to 6 figures), keeps himself in decent shape, is very positive and easy-going about stuff, is an excellent dad, and takes the wife out frequently. They were held up as an example of a marriage that works. Then I fo…
/r/askTRP20/12/19 05:05 PM
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this 100%. I got married when I was pretty blue-pilled and clueless. Didn't expect a lot, and the quality of the marriage started going down hill 5 years in. I then straightened out my head, got red-pilled, started talking to the right guys, and I fixed the situation. These guys that complain about their marriages are frequently at fault themselves.
/r/askTRP20/12/19 04:04 PM
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see my comment above on this. The woman changes, yes, but that is often because the man gets lazy, lets her change, etc. My kids are my life, and they bring me great joy. Guys who say they are miserable because of their kids aren't being good fathers, and are probably immature and selfish.
/r/askTRP20/12/19 03:59 PM
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I have sen a lot of bad and a lot of good. Maybe 50 / 50. I grew up in a very unhappy home (dad was out banging chicks right and left while mom drank herself to death over it--not good). My marriage is good, and I am happy, BUT that shit takes work. Some points: After a few years, the sex tends to drop off, become routine, etc. A lot of wives simply focus on other stuff (kids, job, house, etc.), and the husband gets ignored in the sack. You CANNOT let that shit happen, and you need to call it ou…
/r/askTRP20/12/19 03:56 PM
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when I was in my 20s, before online dating, the whole idea of a "hookup" was alien to me. Even my most womanizing male friends were not out having one-night stands. Sure, some of them had short-term relationships, but sex almost never happened on the first date, and I only saw one girl ever respond to a buddy's "bootie call" for a fun time. I had 7 partners before meeting my wife, and not once did we get together by virtue of a ONS or FWB situation. The whole idea of that didn't even occur to me…
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/19 03:27 PM
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I think that is how things used to be for the most part: the old paradigm. Some women still behave that way (dating a guy for his personality and character, kindness, etc.), but the women who are doing the online dating, and the women who are in college, have options open to them now, that they never did before. Those ugly guys you speak of are not going to get any dates through dating apps. Not even the average guys get dates, and this has ben proven through research (although more studies need…
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/19 03:12 PM
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such a strategy leads to an unstable social and sexual life. Divorce will be the result if the woman is married (typically). No woman practicing a dual-mating strategy deserves fidelity, or even respect
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:51 AM
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she is waiting for you to show some initiative and ask her out. Stop being flaky and passive. if you want to get her back into bed, ask her out to a movie or something, This isn't rocket science
/r/askTRP20/12/19 12:05 AM
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I am a guy, and I have a lot of younger friends. About 50-60% of these guys never intend on marrying, and are completely black-pilled when it comes to women and marriage. Most of these guys are handsome, smart, have careers, etc. Some of them don't even date (full mgtow). That was unheard of 20 years ago. All my friends back then (including myself) wanted to marry and have kids. There are a lot of reasons for this. Online dating has created a "candy store" situation for women, where they select …
/r/RedPillWomen19/12/19 11:18 PM
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It depends ... western men, especially in the US, are frequently immature, unambitious, and unreliable. When I was in my 20s, I was pretty immature for much of it, and it was a consequence of culture, environment, etc. "Healthy" women want stability, reliability, and in some cases status. They want maturity and masculinity--a guy who is a leader, not someone she needs to take care of. This is why women are attracted to men much older than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 05:32 PM
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Well like anything, there are degrees to this. Most guys aren't going to care if a woman has had 5-6 sex partners. But if she has had 20, that is evidence of a chaotic sex life, recklessness, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 04:27 PM
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Remember the Chesterton quote "The reformer is always right about the things that are wrong, but seldom right about the things that are right" thus is the situation surrounding red pill theories and complaints. As a person who sits on the outside of all of this, and who tries to unpack it all, here are my insights: Do women have empathy? Of course they do--some are more empathetic than men, and can connect on deep, emotional levels. But women are also somewhat selfish and solipsistic, and they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 04:25 PM
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agreed, but there are a whole lot of guys out there who know very little about their wives "previous life", or even their LTR's previous life. A lot of women won't even discuss it (I speak from experience)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 10:00 PM
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Actually, I think you should be the one to bring this up, as you are the one that has more to lose in this situation. I spent 4 years in my 20s in a LDR, and it was a huge waste of time. I could have been focused on a better, more fulfilling relationship close to home. I got emotionally attached, and it hurt when everything imploded. You could have the "talk" before he comes to see you, or have it in person. You don't want to be the girl on the side or the part-time lover. Unless you guys can fi…
/r/RedPillWomen16/12/19 05:17 PM
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I would have a discussion with this guy before jumping into bed with him. If the relationship is some vague LDR thing that is mostly electronic, the last thing you want to do is get emotionally attached and then be crushed later on as the dude vanishes or finds someone else in his immediate area. Unless there is a real future here, you might want to put the breaks on.
/r/RedPillWomen16/12/19 04:54 PM
1

I was talking to one of my very socially conservative / right-wing female friends the other day, and she told me she has enjoyed making out with some of our mutual female friends. She said she likes everything "above the waste" (boobs, etc.), but won't go beyond that. Needless to say, I was pretty surprised. Women can't even figure themselves out, and I won't try
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:47 PM
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where have you been? If you go over to some of the other subreddits involving dating and sex, there are dozens of women talking about their causal relationships, ONS, FWBs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 08:46 PM
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LOL, there is a big difference between Boomers and Gen X, believe me. I am Gen X, and we have very little in-common with our parents and grandparents. And I married long ago, so I'm not out cruising for young women As for marriage and kids? Girls in their 20s like to say they will never marry and ride the CC for the rest of their lives. Then we they become 38 year old cat ladies with no friends, they start getting worried
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 08:35 PM
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yeah it was, but we were still pretty afraid of it. The media had everyone hysterical
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 08:21 PM
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A lot of this ties into time-preference: those with high time-preference are impulsive, concerned with immediate gratification, etc. Contrast that with people who can delay gratification, assess the situation rationally, weigh the costs, etc. When I was in my 20s, AIDS was still a thing--bang a girl without protection and you could end up skinny and puking 12 months later. There were serious consequences for reckless behavior, unlike now. Likewise, decades ago, a girl's "reputation" was pretty i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 04:23 PM
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Excellent work here! Thanks I will read through and comment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 04:11 PM
1

and sexual strategy isn't simply about appearance or behavior in a nightclub. Women perceive the way men behave in the real world, and that has a bearing on the desirability of the male. If a dude is overly-Alpha in his general behavior (aggressively arguing with everyone, acting in a domineering manner, staking claims and making enemies, etc.) it will impact his success in the sexual realm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 08:25 PM
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my wife has all of those points save for the N count, which is a bit high (10+). We married when she was 32, so there were a good number of boyfriends before me. But as far as I know, there were not bad experiences, abuse, banging musicians, etc. But all my friends love her, even the catty ones. Very intelligent (IQ like 140+), well educated, dresses in traditional attire, no tats, and isn't crazy. She is from a good family and is very cultured. so you might not be able to get everything on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 07:18 PM
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a woman can be very feminine and agreeable, but also challenging and assertive. think Jane Erye
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 07:11 PM
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High value woman is Wheatfield girl pretty: natural beauty, no tats or excessive piercings. Not even a lot of makeup. Thick hair, light complexion Witty and assertive, but not domineering or attention-seeking Ideologically sound with traditional values Can be vulnerable to friends and lovers--does not put up a front Values marriage and family Low N count with no history of ONS, FWBs, etc. No history of sexual degeneracy Good in bed with the right man: no hangups From a good family
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 07:09 PM
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Not a fantasy: I like sex as much as the next guy, but I almost never slept around before marriage. Sure, I had a couple minor encounters (kissy face stuff at parties, etc.), but I really never had a ONS. I got a bj from a female friend one time that I didn't have intentions on dating, and she had a BF--which of course wrecked our friendship, but that was the closest thing to a FWB situation with me. But once I am in a relationship, I like frequent, adventurous, and good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:36 PM
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Maybe, but a lot of TRP guys do use it as a dichotomy, and insist that they are 100% alpha! It's nonsense. Here is a good example of when being very Alpha gets you into trouble: I had a co-worker half-ass some important work and act a bit dismissive towards me. My Alpha side told me to let this guy have it, put him in his place, etc. --and I did. Dressed the dude down big-time. Then I got into trouble for doing this with the higher-ups. The "appropriate" response was to be "diplomatic", "underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 04:45 PM
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I mean guys who go into a major depression if their cat dies--dudes that are way too attached to animals. Always seemed effeminate and flaky to me
/r/askTRP13/12/19 04:41 PM
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The 3 date rule must be a new thing. I am in my 40s, but when I was in my 20s, I never heard that once. I never once expected a girl to sleep with me after 2-3 dates, and quite frankly, was kind of glad if it didn't go that way. I'm not into promiscuous women at all, even though I have a pretty high sex drive. When I met my future wife, I think we slept together 4-5 weeks in, and had been on a bunch of dates. Don't ride the CC, don't have ONS and don't do FWBs. Respect yourself and others will r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 04:41 PM
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if you knew who those guys were in #5, especially Zinn, you would fully understand what I am saying
/r/askTRP13/12/19 02:40 AM
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I wouldn't read too much into it, and I don't see it as a problematic comment. He was just being honest, which is good. Just because he might have married that girl, it doesn't mean he would have been happy, or that it would have been a good idea. I take the comment as "she was the one I might have married had things turned out differently, but I am happy with you, so I'm glad I didn't"
/r/RedPillWomen13/12/19 01:25 AM
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Beta behaviors? Real ones? White guy marrying an Asian girl Any dude who goes to a woman's march Dudes who are obsessed with their pets, especially cats Any guy who unironically calls himself a feminist, or white knights women in hopes of getting sympathy tail Any dude who has Noam Chomsky or Howard Zinn in his book shelf is probably an epic beta faggot Guys who work as bike messengers at age 26
/r/askTRP13/12/19 01:14 AM
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and remove Alpha Chad's good facial features and replace them with acne scars and rotted teeth. Do they still fuck him? remove anything from anyone and the whole picture changes. I'm not sure what point that makes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 09:40 PM
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likewise, determination to succeed is Alpha. Bill Gates is a skinny nerdy guy, but his drive, determination, work-ethic, and intelligence make him alpha and I don't think people ever walked all over him including women. Alpha should not mean Chad thundercock who does whatever he wants
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 09:39 PM
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That is why the whole Alpha / Beta dichotomy is Spergie nonsense. There is no such thing as a pure "Alpha" man or Beta man. Likewise, there are many traits that don't even fall into those categories. In addition to that, there are women out there who don't want a full-on aggressive Alpha dude. Some want a much lower-key, caring, guy (and not because they want to dominate him). I think one person here said a while back that the Alpha man is always a competitor, enemy, and never an ally. Such a gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 09:00 PM
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Counseling is completely worthless and probably damaging quite frankly. I've known numerous people that have done it, and all ultimately got divorced. Some people, such as myself, can't even do "counseling" --the "therapist" would throw me out of his or her office after I countersignal their pozzed neoliberal bs.
/r/askTRP12/12/19 08:33 PM
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and a redhead too!!! Talk about false advertising! I've only been with a couple redheads, and they were both absolute demons in bed. One wanted to do things not even a pervert like me wanted to do! lol
/r/askTRP12/12/19 07:35 PM
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I've seen maybe 3-4 happy, healthy marriages in my entire life, among the 30+ couples I've been friends with One of those is mine. Another consists of a very religious couple. Then we have the remainder, in which the husband and wife love and respect each other, don't cheat, etc. In some cases, the husband married down, and the wife is of low quality. She is also controlling, problematic, and disliked by others. A bunch divorced, with the wife typically cheating. The chances of you finding a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 07:21 PM
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I had a very depressing experience in my 20s. I somehow hit above my weight and landed an absolute beauty: girl wasn't hot--she was downright gorgeous, with a perfect little body, ice-blue eyes, raven hair, perfect skin and teeth. Easily a 9 if not a 10. After a few dates I got her into bed, only to discover she was clueless in the sack. I figured that it was the first time for us, and it would get better. It didn't. She was unimaginative, wouldn't get into many positions (like a 69), and was lo…
/r/askTRP12/12/19 04:04 PM
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already happily married sweetheart, and my wife isn't out fingering the overweight yoga instructor
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 03:14 PM
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no seriously: a lot of guys (and girls) won't marry a bisexual person. They don't want to have to worry about the intentions of ALL their spouse's friends, and also worry that they can never give their spouse everything that person wants. No one wants to end up with a perpetually unsatisfied spouse who is unreliable. Sorry hun, that is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 01:44 AM
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well the N counts of women these days are pretty high, so ... but 5-7 partners is fine, as long as the goal isn't to ride the CC until finding a provider and bisexual women? Immediate disqualification unless a guy wants to get cheated on and divorce raped
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 11:01 PM
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fair enough, but that isn't the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:07 PM
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When I was in my 20s, I dated a couple girls who were way below me in terms of SMV (also dated at least one who was way above me). These girls were not all that attractive, a bit overweight, etc. They were outgoing, smart, feminine, and uncomplicated. I was "settling" for sure, because at the time, I was tired of complicated hotties who were a pain-in-the-ass to date. So even these very average girls got decent relationships with a guy that was probably in that 20% or maybe on the edge (6'1 185l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:04 PM
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well there are exceptions to the rules of course. But I'm sure your friends talk about what they look for in men, and that is always "tall, dark, and handsome" --even dudes with light hair have a harder time. There is literally one type that men have to adhere to, while women can be petite, tall and leggy, athletic, skinny, blonde, redhead, whatever, and guys will be into them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:52 PM
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average guys get married to women who have already been on the CC for the last 10 years and who are out of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:40 PM
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oh come on! lol Women completely disqualify men who are under 5'10 or who are losing their hair. Women won't even date guys who are redheads! They aren't and obsessed with weight, but they are still very superficial. There is a guy I work with: smart, funny, makes a six figure salary, and is a musician. Can't get a GF to save his life. Why? 5'9 and balding. He isn't even ugly--just that is enough to make him single at age 32. He just laughs about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:39 PM
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after Chads have pump-and-dumped them, or even dudes who are barely Chads
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:24 PM
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I'm not sure what the "about me" phrase means. Do you mean that I am limiting the discussion to my own experiences, or seeking some kind of validation? I specifically asked others here what their experiences were, and I also indicated that male infidelity is worse than female in other parts of the world Also, men have their own issues as well. yes, we like to discuss women here, but I criticize men here pretty frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:40 PM
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it really is depressing. I have experienced a bit of what you have as well. Wives of friends and acquaintances being too friendly with me, making suggestions. When I was leaving a meetup one time, a dude's wife gave me a long kiss on the neck (while no one was looking). I was like 'whoah ..."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 03:25 PM
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I would put that women's number from 16 - 40 but yes, men do cheat more after 40, as women's SMV goes down dramatically in their late 30s. If men stay fit, they don't see the big drop-off likewise, men have more resources later in life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 03:23 PM
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well part of the issue involves open promotion of female infidelity in our culture: women's magazines, websites, even news sites. the other issue is women underreporting their infidelity (and N counts). A lot of guys here see very different behavior and numbers from what the "stats" tell us
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 03:13 PM
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I have close, honest friendships with my guy friends. If they were up to something, or even considering, they would tell me. Sure, this is a small sample size, but that is why I am asking others here what they have experienced
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 03:11 PM
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Things in Europe are a bit different than in the US. A more visible and socially-acceptable sex industry, more diverse populations. In some cultures, men cheat quite a bit because of arranged marriages, restrictions, etc. so yes, in some places, male infidelity is much higher, but I speak only of the US
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 03:10 PM
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There are many: here is a good one https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/apr/23/my-perfect-affair-sex-lover-extramarital-secret Woman says "I didn’t start an affair because I’m lacking anything with Stephen. He’s a brilliant dad and funny, intelligent, fit and attractive. We’ve always made an effort to keep things fresh" sucks to be Steven --like why should guys even bother being nice to their wives at this point or this author who says men should give their wives permission to cheat htt…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 02:48 PM
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there was an underlying respect issue between hi and her I believe. Didn't matter how much money her made, how good he was as a father, etc. --he was a blue-collar guy with simple tastes (for the most part), not some Chad intellectual. When women's magazines, websites, and feminists tell women that they can "have it all" and that they should always be looking to trade up, women will never be happy, and this is the result
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 02:33 PM
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I have a general policy at work: no closed-door meetings with women, no travel on the same plane with them, no after-hours meetups or drinks (unless it is a whole company xmas party, or something like that). No joking around, no socializing, and no direct emails (all emails have cc to other people). I don't even do direct phone calls on my cell. Females in the office don't even have my cell number (the men do) I take zero chances
/r/askTRP11/12/19 04:17 AM
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according to mate-switching hypothesis, women establish plan Bs for biological and evolutionary reasons. When men were providers and protectors, women had to be sure she could find another if the primary died
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 03:34 AM
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that might be true, but I was talking about marriage specifically. Most dating relationships are non-exclusive these days
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 01:09 AM
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everyone can be tempted, and at the very least, everyone can fall into emotional affairs this nonsense we hear from women about how they never do wrong, it's all the guy's fault, etc. is just that. It's like women who claim that all jealousy is bad, and a sign of insecurity and weakness. They say that because they want to set up plan B and C, or maybe run around on their boyfriends and spouses with impunity. If the guy gets jealous, well he's just an insecure loser!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:33 PM
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go look at the statistics regarding divorce rates of women who work 40 hours a week outside the home. It isn't pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:18 PM
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do you live in Utah or something? lol --how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:15 PM
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None were religious, save for maybe one couple. So there is that ...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:13 PM
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are they religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:11 PM
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that is the worrisome thing about it. Not that there are people out there who are cheating, but that there are a lot of women in very happy, fulfilling relationships, in which the guy is a good husband, provider, etc., and they still cheat woman are TOLD to do this by women's magazines, tv shows, etc. How many online and print articles have we seen with headlines like "even if you are happy, you should find a lover ..." Quite honestly, I was a pretty bluepilled, traditional guy for a long time. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:25 PM
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that is why I am asking for other people's experience
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 07:59 PM
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Unless my guy friends are lying to me, I only know of one or two that outright cheated on his wife. I know at least 5 women that have cheated on their husbands and another 3 that are highly suspected as having done so. Not all this cheating was full-blown sex, but it was all cheating for sure. Obviously guys cheat as well, but for me it is a 2/8 ratio (at least), and my guy friends never talk about cheating (save for the guys who did it) maybe it is partly due to where I live and the culture I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 07:58 PM
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big city
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 07:39 PM
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More cynical, but I can still fall in love with a girl, and I still like romance Just have to be realistic and focused
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 03:13 AM
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There are actresses out there who play good tough girls. Examples: Antjie Traue Sylvia Hoeks Alicia Vikander
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 09:53 PM
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I am a guy and I would never even think of doing that on a date. It's tacky and unacceptable. When a man asks a woman out, he pays. That is especially true early on. Now a woman can say"I'd like to take you out for your birthday" and pay then, but as a general principle, the guy pays If you are living together or married, the money is likely coming from the same place, so it isn't an issue Believe me: if a guy is asking to go dutch on the second date, and even asking you to give him cash at a la…
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/19 12:54 AM
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I am in my late 40s, and I get a TON of attention from women. I am in excellent shape, look 10 years younger than I am (with the grey streaks), dress in fine clothes like a boss, and have very deep pockets I'm married, but if I weren't, I'd be getting more tail now than in any point in my life
/r/askTRP07/12/19 09:22 PM
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I "real" Alpha male is a leader of men, with courage, refinement, and class. He is committed to excellence and self-sacrifice. He isn't simply a bad-ass or a brute, but he can defend himself and others. Some examples (of of many): Leon Degrelle George Patton Marcel Cerdan Teddy Roosevelt Horatio Nelson Marcus Aurelius Yukio Mishima
/r/askTRP07/12/19 09:17 PM
1

Did you do something in bed that freaked her out? Slapping/spanking, jizz in the face, etc. --or was it standard fare?
/r/askTRP07/12/19 08:56 PM
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very true --a lot of women these days scoff at the very idea of putting effort into a marriage. They want careers, and domestic responsibilities are secondary at best. Kids? Send them off to daycare. Of my friends that are married, the ones who have problems are the ones whose wives work full-time. Stress levels go up, responsibilities are not fulfilled, kids neglected, etc.
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/19 06:26 PM
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Wait ..why the hell are you introducing this girl to your family. I never introduced ANY chick to my family unless she was potential marriage material (meaning exactly two got to meet my father and sister, that's it) Why hasn't this chick been in a LTR in 4+ years? What is up with that? She been getting pump-and-dumped? ONS? Did she actually ask for "space"? What did you say? Sounds like you are way more into this than she is, and you need to soft-next, or cut communication altogether.
/r/askTRP05/12/19 11:28 PM
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but it isn't gossip. It is evaluation when guys get into their mid to late 20s, they don't typically engage in locker-room talk, or boast of their sexual conquests and activities. What they do discuss is how a particular girl might be right or wrong, or worthy of a LTR (or marriage). They might confide in their buddies, or seek advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:46 PM
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he means publicly in the sense that the MSM and other outlets never slut shame but you better believe men talk about women's N counts and female sexual behavior behind closed doors. High N counts, ONS, FWBs, etc. are looked at as huge negatives, and a girl quickly earns a "reputation" (aka, good for sex, not suitable for any kind of LTR, and certainly not marriage material)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:20 PM
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Note: women want status both for themselves and for their children Hypergamy is largely an evolutionary / biological impulse: the family must have lots of resources and power Doesn't make it right, but it isn't simply about the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:15 PM
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I agree with much of this. Our government and society should be promoting, and in some cases enforcing, healthy family relationships. Instead it turns a blind eye to degeneracy and entropy I recommend Devlin's "Sexual Utopia in Power" for more insights regarding this Promiscuity, hypergamy, and mate-switching have reduced the value and desirability of western women tremendously. There are, for the most part, of low value, when compared to women overseas, and from different cultures. The informat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:29 AM
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Quite honestly, I have not seen a lot of hypergamous / mate-switching behavior from my female friends, but I have seen some. I knew girls in my 20s that did want to find Mr. Right and settle down to get married, even if that dude didn't have a lot of income and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:20 AM
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no, I see that as well. But it is too easy for a guy to say, after starting a family and being married for 6-7, that he regrets his decision and wishes he were still single and sleeping around.
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/19 11:27 PM
1

Well it depends ... if a girl has had several LTRs before the guy gets with her, it isn't an issue. If she has had several ONS encounters, it is a whole different story. A woman that gives herself away cheaply and recklessly could be a problem. Not always (some women grow up, and we all do stupid shit when we are young), but it is reason for concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 11:26 PM
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I would take that article with a grain of salt: out of 5 guys they spoke with, 3 had affairs, and a couple had multiple affairs. The guys were totally unapologetic about it Out of all my friends, I have only known one who has cheated. That is like 15 guys, and the dude who cheated was in a really bad marriage with a woman of much lower quality than himself. They had no kids, and were like roommates. So this idea that guys routinely cheat on their spouses isn't something I've encountered. Studies…
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/19 07:11 PM
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you can call it a tradcuck game and bow out, but it isn't like the alternative is better do you want to be the creepy single uncle at age 45? so yeah, the divorce rate is way too high, the laws suck, and the risks are there. But going the other way is curing the disease by killing the patient
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:35 PM
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yeah, and show me a girl with a N count under 10 these days. I literally know of ONE currently in my own life. Every girl I've known, of which I had any knowledge of their private life had numerous partners, and the number was typically 9-20. you gonna tell me you don't fall into that category?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:32 PM
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Nonsense. I am in my lat 40s and have been married over 15 years. I get a lot from my relationship: my wife is an excellent mother, a reliable spouse, and an ideological partner. We still have plenty of sex. I have several friends who are happily married This idea that marriage is universally bad, a dead-end, and that men will end up cucked or miserable, simply isn't true. Are there lots of bad marriages? Absolutely. But that doesn't mean you can't find a good woman to settle down with. Men in b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:25 PM
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The average person is becoming more redpilled these days on a number of issues, not simply ones dealing with men and women I was at a party recently and people there were openly discussing things that would have been unthinkable even to mention 10 years ago. My wife has gotten a lot more open to RP ideas and has reevaluated a lot of the nonsense she believed when she was in her 20s (me too) But it is true that tech firms, the MSM, and others are tying to "shut it down"--deplatform, defund, etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:08 PM
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$10 says your N count is twice her's sweetheart, and with much lower quality guys
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:56 PM
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just because guys like you who can't get laid, or even get female attention, are thinking about bowing out, doesn't mean men in general are bowing out. 90% of men still want to find female attention and/or eventual spouses. They want to start families after they reach a certain age
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:52 PM
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The current environment is challenging, but going full mgtow and not having kids is not an option. No guy wants to be *that* guy who is 40 and hanging out in singles bars once he realizes all his friends have gotten married and no longer hang out with him. They don't want to be the guy in his 50s who is suspiciously single, with no kids, and no one to take care of him when he is elderly. The dude everyone thinks is a closet fag or pederast Some guys will end up there anyway, simply because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:46 PM
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yes, but when women keep moving the goal posts, they send themselves further behind As an older guy, I see what happens when these women hit their early 30s: they can no longer compete with younger women, cannot find quality men (depending), and end up alone, or with some loser Pat of setting expectations high, is the idea that you will never actually reach them. It is a way of explaining away your failure before you ever try: "I wanted a man who looked like Brad Pitt, had a 6 figure salary, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:38 PM
2

It isn't that woman like men who sleep around. It is something called "Mimetic Desire" Women want things other women desire, even if they didn't wan that thing initially (the same holds for men). When other women express admiration and lust for a guy, a girl thinks to herself "perhaps I should want him as well". Then it becomes a kind of competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:18 PM
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No double-standard here: I don't think men should have high N counts either, and women should hold them to the same standard. Speaking to the ladies: you do NOT want a dude with a very high N count. Believe me, I've known a bunch, and they were all low-quality, shifty dudes. Completely unreliable and immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:11 PM
5

If a woman who has had a lot of partners (within reason) tells you that she regrets it, that it was immature and maybe irresponsible, a guy might be able to move past that But if a woman is like "yeah, I fucked 20 dudes back in the day, and I don't regret any of it. Don't shame me"! A guy better move away from that feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:09 PM
1

Back in the day I didn't. We didn't think about N counts very much, but I would recommend guys be careful in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:06 PM
1

A woman who wants to marry and have kids isn't going to want to be working 60 hours a week to support them. If they plan on settling down into a traditional marital relationship, maybe as a stay-at-home mom, or working part time, they are going to need the man's income and resources
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:06 PM
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Very good. Been married over 15 years. 2 kids. My wife gives me space, allows me to hang out with my buddies. She doesn't violate my trust or pull any bullshit. We are 100% honest with each other. I got lucky quite honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:30 AM
25

if you think there are lots of women out there who are virgins just waiting for a dude with no prospects to sweep them off their feet, you are mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:51 PM
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I think we need to look closer at hypergamy. Women wanting to settle down with a man who has resources, career prospects, and/or who would make a good father is a completely understandable thing. It is the *other* side of hypergamy that is the problem--women engaging in promiscuity when they are young, seeing out those "alpha" men before settling down, and then suffering the consequences later. So it isn't the "beta-bucks" portion of this equation that is the issue (and we know that not every pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:55 PM
1

sure
/r/RedPillWomen03/12/19 05:49 PM
6

and from that you learned that men are unreliable. You also learned that women are impulsive My father cheated on my mother numerous times and had long-term bimbos. Divorce was the end-game. The bimbos stuck around for his money Terrible example for a young kid. Grew up thinking people were complete shit, and I had trust issues. Took me a long time to get with the right people and to find good examples
/r/RedPillWomen03/12/19 05:43 PM
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You may have been worried that you didn't "deserve" guy #1, and that he would ultimately be unreliable. Your self-esteem might have been too low at the time, and you may have felt that guy #2 was easier. Guys do this all the time: they settle for lower quality women because they feel that if affords them more control, requires less effort, etc. I did this a couple times in my 20s, until waking up one day and realizing I was selling myself short
/r/RedPillWomen03/12/19 05:39 PM
6

Just about every girl I've been with has been different in bed: different turn-ons, enthusiasm, etc. I've only been with one that was an outright demon in the sack, who wanted to do everything and anything--even stuff I was hesitant to do! (one time she wanted to hold my cock while I pissed--not sure I would have even be able to do it) Don't force the head down, and don't start up with the "suck my dick you whore!" talk--that won't go over well. Like others here said, gently lead her and ramp up…
/r/askTRP03/12/19 05:15 PM
2

On a side note: a 1.8% match rate for Tinder pretty much indicates the app is a total waste of time for just about everyone, women included.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:26 PM
2

My female friend told me that she often swipes left on men she finds attractive, but who look like they might be assholes so it might not have to do entirely with physical appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:51 PM
1

Don't go back to his hotel. Have you even met this guy in person? Meet him for coffee and vet him
/r/RedPillWomen02/12/19 07:42 PM
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She has eyes for Captain Britain, and you need to respond with dread protocols and find yourself other women Does she live with you? End that right now--no guy should be living with a woman he isn't married to. It allows her to control him, snoop, limit his options, etc. She has a new job and she is on the prowl. Distance yourself from her emotionally and physically. Set aside weekends for other girls and keep your mouth shut. Do not discuss this other dude. Don't even say shit--just be vague
/r/askTRP02/12/19 04:52 PM
1

well considering the author is an actual professor at the University of Utah who conducts original research, it isn't "dogshit" now there might be issues with the study, but he states "I present a statistical portrait of Promiscuous America by using General Social Survey data collected between 1989 and 2016" You can find that here https://gss.norc.org/ so your claim that he is using data from the IFS is simply false. Try reading the article before talking out your ass But let me ask you this: if…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:35 PM
2

you can do a weekday date initially, but limit that to coffee or something super casual. Then set up something for a weekend. If she likes you, she will make time on a Friday or Saturday. If she wants to steer it back to Thursday, she probably has a boyfriend, or isn't all that interested.
/r/askTRP02/12/19 02:22 PM
1

Well it was 2 out of 10 or so. In his day and age, that isn't all that bad. With one chick I had pretty much an open relationship, and didn't care. The other one was a different story. Got screwed over pretty bad. Now of course others may have cheated and I never found out ...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:47 AM
1

https://ifstudies.org/blog/promiscuous-america-smart-secular-and-somewhat-less-happy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:45 AM
1

that is true to some degree. Lots of guys use RP as an excuse ("not going to work out anyway, because women are manipulative whores"), and they don't focus enough on self-improvement. Despite hypergamy, mate-switching, hookup culture, etc. there are good women out there. It isn't a unicorn situation. I have known a few, and I am married to one now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:04 AM
3

I was blue-pilled throughout my 20s. This was before RP was even a thing, although we had suspicions I was probably a solid 7 (6'1 185lbs, good features. Brother was a solid 9 or 10, so inherited some of that), and from a good family. Had a lot of education and was cultured. But I was a bit shy with women. So my N count ended up at 7, even though it probably could have been higher. I had mostly LTRs I still believed in romance, sentimentalism, and gave women the benefit of the doubt. Despite tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:01 AM
1

it could be correct in the sense that men with low SMV and few career prospects simply aren't getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 01:00 AM
2

men should not have high N counts either. It goes both ways But we know that it is 20% of guys out there banging 80% of the women--and those are the dudes spreading the HPV (and other STDs) A recent study showed that "In 1990, about 3% of women had had over 15 sex partners. By 2016, this number was up to 7 percent". The women with high N counts tended to be liberal politically (no surprise there), have advanced degrees, or some school after college, and non-religious or Jewish.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 12:59 AM
3

I have seen studies that say people are having less sex, and others that say people are having more. Considering the usage of dating apps, more relaxed attitudes towards hookup culture, FWBs, etc., I find it very hard to believe people are having less sex these days. I don't think it is dramatically more--when I was in my 20s, people were definitely out there getting laid, nevertheless ...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:46 PM
1

25% of American woman have HPV. We can thank soaring N counts and reckless behavior for that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:38 PM
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When I was younger (20s) it was almost never discussed, unless the girl had a reputation for promiscuity. Even then it wasn't a big issue. But women these days are sleeping around a lot more, using Tinder, etc. for that, and more openly practicing hypergamy and mate-switching. Now, almost ALL my guy friends talk about this, and they use numbers whenever possible. One guy I know asks for the number on the second date lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:36 PM
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the problem is, a high N count (10+) for women correlates with a much higher divorce rate, and with a marital unhappiness rate. Men might not know the exact number, but they probably should.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:32 PM
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Yeah, like you should believe the story about her falling asleep and accidentally ghosting you lol She was banging her "ex" on Saturday night, and keeping you on the side as a backup plan. One thing you forgot --don't do Wednesday night dates. Unless a chick was able to set aside some weekend time for me, I didn't bother with her, since that typically meant she had something else set up.
/r/askTRP01/12/19 08:53 PM
2

I think that is how it should be. If a women really likes a man, she should send clear signals of availability. Sure, he needs to show initiative and work for it, but she shouldn't give him a cold shoulder, send mixed-signals, etc. There are a lot of good guys out there (I was one) who never wanted to be "that dude" at social events, bars, etc. --the guy who is overly-aggressive, annoying, and a cad. So we go too far the other way, and become a little shy and apprehensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:53 PM
6

When I met my wife at a party, she asked me for my number at the end of the night ("wanna exchange numbers"?) Then it was up to me to call her and ask her out. The door was clearly open, but I had to take some initiative. We've been married over 15 years Rejection sucks for everyone, but sometimes you have to take the initiatives. Some guys are a bit shy or apprehensive when it comes to women, even if they are very confident and outgoing. I was in that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 03:25 AM
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Let's back up for a moment and view this in a different way When I was in my 20s, I didn't typically jump into bed with any chick quickly. There were a couple exceptions, but my sex was almost always in the context of a LTR I was vetting these women, deciding whether or not I wanted them in my life, etc. I liked taking it slow and making her want it. The payoff was typically much better But I do see the point here. I once had a GF who slept with a buddy of mine the second time she met up with hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 07:55 PM
2

Meanwhile, the horny Chads of the world bang everything that moves, and the women keep coming back for more. And the 80% of men will have to settle to some degree. They get the used girl with the emotional damage (and probably abortions and maybe STDs to boot) I know exactly one couple that married young and are happy. Virtually all my friends, male and female, married when they were aged 29+. Some are still unmarried. Pretty much all us guys came late to the party, and our eventual wives had pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 04:43 PM
1

Go home, and be casual about it. Stop wasting your time on this chick. Keep her around as a plate (at best) and move on.
/r/askTRP29/11/19 01:50 AM
2

depends on the girl's interests, but if she is into poetry, I will get her a rare book of verse from overseas, maybe signed by the author. One girl I was dating graduated from a nursing program, so I got her Florence Nightingale's book "Notes on Nursing", first edition from the 19th century (very expensive now, back then it wasn't too bad). It used to be customary to give a new nurse a copy of this book. If it is jewelry, it has to be personal. Maybe an amulet/necklace with her favorite Greek or…
/r/askTRP28/11/19 04:50 PM
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OK, sit back and prepare for the redpill You bought her jewelry because you didn't know what else to get her. OK. I ve loved three women in my life exactly: my wife and two girlfirends. I knew *exactly* what to buy them as gifts, and these things were unusual, personal, and sweet --It wasn' a fucking necklace. you went from FWB to something more, because there was nothing better available. FWB never turns into anything legitimate or serious. She has put you in a placeholder relationship, and you…
/r/askTRP28/11/19 05:25 AM
1

I am a former teacher who worked in the inner city. I'm a white guy You gotta connect with these kids on their level, while at the same time teaching them. Cast aside the reading list and build something that they can relate to. Emily Dickinson? Nah, more Joe Louis. Walt Whitman? Try Jean Toomer. You can teach literature, rhetoric, and other arts though things that interest these kids, without pandering or being politically correct. The black kids loved me when I was teaching --I won their respe…
/r/askTRP28/11/19 04:28 AM
1

My wife is extremely logical and practical. Strangely enough, she had a lot of lovers before me, and we didn't marry until she was 33. She is very intelligent: after being out of college for 15 years, decided to take the graduate record exam (GRE), after studying for a few days, went in to take it. She got close to a perfect score (1-2 questions wrong on the entire exam). She is no nonsense and totally straightforward. Probably the main reason we are married. If anything, I am the romantic, sent…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 12:49 AM
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That is going to happen to a lot of guys--in fact, most. I thought I was Mr. hot shit before a chick cheated on me hardcore. I had broken up with all previous girlfriends before that. The chick who did me wrong was very hot, and had a pretty cool personality too, but I was a placeholder relationship for her, and she got back with her ex-boyfriend. Lied to me, and I felt like garbage. I was pissed. Then I realized that the problem was me: I went into that with the wrong attitude, and let her cont…
/r/askTRP26/11/19 01:38 AM
1

Depending on where you live, there are meetup groups and adult sports clubs --stuff like coed volleyball, etc. You can also join a coed tennis class. You can try political meetings (we have stuff like the Chicago Young Republicans here. They do events at restaurants and bars). Dance classes are another good option (swing dancing, western, etc.). Museums and architectural societies have events periodically.
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/19 01:31 AM
3

true story --unless you find a religious girl or get very lucky
/r/askTRP25/11/19 08:00 PM
16

if she is smoking pot, she has a dealer that means sketchy people in her life, and she might even be trading sex (or at the very least attention) for weed with guys it is another story
/r/askTRP25/11/19 07:27 PM
13

Vetting is everything, and guys gotta stop jumping into bed with thots --because these dudes then get attached. Every man needs criteria by which to vet a potential LTR, and certainly with which to judge a marriage prospect Does she have a high N count? Above 10? Next her unless it is an unusual situation. Has she had several one-night stands, or FWBs? Next her Has she had threesomes? (especially with two dudes) Next her Does she habitually smoke pot or do other drugs? Next Is she a hardcore fem…
/r/askTRP25/11/19 07:00 PM
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In my case the signs were: She was being vague and unreliable when it came to dates and hanging out. Would complain about having too much school work. She told me a couple days before we broke up that she couldn't do anything over the weekend because she had final exams. She seemed nervous and distracted, and my spider-sense was going off. So on my way to a buddy's house close by her's I grabbed a pound of good coffee, and gave her a call (was going to drop it off). The ex-boyfriend answered the…
/r/askTRP25/11/19 06:53 PM
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I got stuck in a placeholder once (maybe twice), and didn't realize it until the ex-boyfriend suddenly appeared on the scene out of nowhere. back then I had way too many beta qualities when it came to women. Instead of being assertive, lowering my expectations, and maintaining frame, I complained. It is important for guys to recognize the signs of a placeholder early on, and next her when they appear
/r/askTRP25/11/19 04:13 PM
5

Yes, kudos on doing the right thing. I would have immediately dumped her
/r/askTRP25/11/19 04:05 PM
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LOL! Drop the mic.
/r/MGTOW24/11/19 01:52 AM
4

Depends on what kind of guy you are. If you are looking for a traditional, edgy crowd, find a pool party If you are a standard dude, go to some meetup groups, running or lifting groups, etc. Maybe go to conventions (I attend a retro video-gaming convention every year that is a blast. We drink beer and play Space Invaders and pinball).
/r/askTRP24/11/19 12:54 AM
3

you should never have to ask "what do I bring to the table"? It should be obvious and manifest, and your value within the marriage should be clear. what are the priorities? to be a high-powered attorney, or to be a wife and mother?
/r/RedPillWomen23/11/19 06:34 AM
1

I get a whole lot more that. But why don't you put your boyfriend back in your mouth and STFU
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 12:56 AM
1

not sure what post you are even talking about, but at least I am getting sex Meanwhile, you are stalking through some dude's reddit posts going back months looking for some juicy details like a faggot or some sociopathic chick maybe you should focus on your own lack of game rather than spending hours hounding people in cyberspace
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 09:46 PM
1

heaven forbid men have standards
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:32 PM
2

when the number gets really high (25+), here has to be numerous one-night stands in there, and maybe even threesomes. That means reckless sexual behavior, and problems with impulse control. aka, better get the girl tested before touching her
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:26 PM
1

nah, my sex life is OK. Could be better, but that goes for most people. But thanks for stalking my posts going back like 2 years to find that. Obsessive much?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:21 PM
0

I wouldn't be dishonest about it. If she wants to know, simply tell her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 06:23 PM
0

oh I think it does matter, because I think the younger guys going into this dating world need to know the reality of the situation. It doesn't mean that all western woman are of poor quality (there are some good ones out there), but 3rd wave feminism, the sexual revolution, the nannie state, and degenerate culture, have created a situation in which promiscuity, hypergamy, dual-mating strategy, etc. have become the norm. So men have to either stop respecting women, giving them fidelity, marrying …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 05:51 PM
2

no, I knew about it going in, and like I said, it was an issue Decided to take the chance, roll the dice, etc., and I was lucky it worked out. I don't resent it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 05:40 PM
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oh I don't doubt any of that. There might be reasons for high N count, but it doesn't change the fact that a high N count reduces the quality of a woman and makes her unsuitable for marriage or even LTRs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 05:38 PM
5

It would be interesting to see a large, comprehensive, and well-designed study. A lot depends on country, region, religion, etc., but figures can be reached. I would be especially interested in seeing the stats for college-educated women. I also suspect that the idea that the average male has had 7-8 sex partners in his life, is very misleading. Of ALL my guy friends, I know one that has a high N count (15-18). Most of us had 4-7 tops, and a couple of us (myself included) were solidly in that "2…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 04:27 PM
3

unfortunately, that's what it turns into. Waiting for your turn is pretty much coming to the realization that western girls are sluts and not marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 04:22 PM
0

The N count was an issue before we married--and I almost broke up with her over it. I knew about the statistics involving marriage to very "experienced women" even back then. I didn't want to marry some jaded women who had nothing left to experience, and who couldn't form meaningful bonds. I got lucky: while she was more experienced than me, things worked out. So it doesn't mean that every woman with a high N count isn't marriage material, but the risks go up exponentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 04:21 PM
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that is one option for guys, but those girls are hard to find these days. The most religiously conservative states are Utah and Louisiana. Utah has the lowest rate of sex partners (Mormons) and Louisiana the highest (Catholic)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 04:16 PM
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I'm a guy, but the advice works in any case Porn is a complex thing: while there is nothing wrong with erotica, voyeurism (within reason), or erotic fiction (love it), we have to realize it is an industry, and not a particularly pleasant one Beneath the wild fantasies and acrobatic sex, there is human trafficking, drugs, abuse, and exploitation. It really is a guilty pleasure to be watching this stuff. While you can lost in this stuff (which is what has been happening to you), we need to take a …
/r/RedPillWomen18/11/19 04:15 PM
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Studies have shown that once a woman has over 10 sex partners, her ability to stay married goes down dramatically. The divorce rate almost doubles among these women vs. girls who have had 3-4 partners. Also, the marital happiness among those women is half that of others, and they have 4 times the STD rates. Over 50% of women cheat in relationships and marriages, according to some studies. This goes way up in conjunction with the number of sex partners a woman has had.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 04:06 PM
2

Meh, not sure this is entirely accurate. My taste in women changed a lot from my teenage years to age 28-30
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 04:11 PM
2

What does being conservative have to do with liking "alpha" qualities in men? While liberal women tend to end up with passive beta males, they most certainly like more traditional, masculine, "alpha" guys. They might be with some 5'6 hippy dude, but they would get with the guy who looks like an Arno Breker statue in an instant, even if that dude were a hard-core right-winger. The Asian guys may not have traditional masculine forms, but it doesn't make them beta males. Look at Korean actor Choi-s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 04:54 PM
1

true in general --no one asks me about my degree, and it doesn't even have much to do with my job. I don't recommend graduate school. Get out there and start making money instead
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:24 PM
1

Some men don't stay in the 20% or the 80%. When I was in my mid 20s, I was poor (student), in mediocre shape, and was a bit insecure. By the time I reached age 29, I had a pretty good career, a lot more money, better clothes, etc., and had crosses into that 20%. Now in my 40s I would be in the top 5%: a few million dollars to my name, excellent shape, a sense of style, etc. I get noticed a lot. The rising divorce rates are due to both women getting more societal rights and the existence of a nan…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 08:12 PM
3

I disagree. The "pill" metaphors are useful descriptors, even if the underlying theories are not 100% clear or sound. I would have been helped quite a bit by RP ideas when I was in my 20s, and would have been happier and better adjusted. Now things worked out for me (married a long time now) simply because I was in that 20% of men (or very close): tall, athletic, graduate degree, good income, family with money, cultured, etc. But for a vast majority of men, marriage, or even LTRs are a bad idea,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 06:58 PM
1

I don't think this is all that bad. She is divorced, yes, but it doesn't look like she has been sleeping around, or was trying to get with a sugar daddy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/19 04:34 PM
1

I can provide a pretty easy list of things women find unattractive in men, and things which men are seemingly oblivious to: Lack of effort into appearance: wearing dirty jeans, sweat shirts and athletic jerseys, etc. poor grooming. Wearing baseball caps (especially backwards) after the age of 20. Seriously guys, the cap means you are either losing your hair or you haven't grown up. I know a lot of woman who hate the cap, especially when it is worn indoors. Cheapness --going dutch on the first da…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:56 PM
1

my father cheated on my mother and even his other girlfriends. He was pathologically unfaithful. When I was young, I swore that I would never be like him. I saw the damage his behavior inflicted on everyone around him. So sometimes, men learn from the bad behavior of other men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 04:22 PM
3

Women are not *always* looking to trade up. They do have a biological, evolutionary impulse to find "backup" mates, or auxiliary providers (mate-switching hypothesis). They will not typically act with infidelity unless that other option provides much greater physical and emotional fulfillment, or status and resources. But that doesn't mean all women are moved by such an impulse. A woman who is committed not only to her husband (or LTR), her people, culture, traditions and values, will not simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 04:20 PM
1

no --and if she did, I wouldn't have a wife
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 04:44 AM
1

well "polyamory" (which isn't even a real word) is basically authorized cuckoldry. The lowest men on the beta scale exist in that sorry realm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 04:44 AM
1

congratulations on totally missing my point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 04:42 AM
1

men shouldn't be spinning plates, and women shouldn't be allowing it. The sexual revolution brought us here, and it isn't a good place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 01:41 AM
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I didn't say all women are terrible human beings. But women are driven by evolutionary impulses: replacement theory says that women will look for someone to take the place of their current mate out of a need for insurance (guy number one can die in war, etc.). But feminism has injected a new dynamic into the mix: women's freedom and political enfranchisement is the primary goal, and family, fidelity, and constancy are liabilities. Men are to be looked at as temporary providers of resources and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 01:38 AM
0

the question is, why give fidelity to a woman that gets with you because you are a walking ATM machine who will do what she says? Women ride the CC until they are "exhausted" then find some dude to settle down with, but beyond this, mate replacement theory says they continue to scan for others to replace the current guy. This doesn't mean all women are going to cheat (check the article--a lot has to do with cost), but men should be aware of female dating strategy and replacement theory, and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 12:27 AM
0

hypergamy deals largely with women trading up to find a man who can provide the most resources. This involves women actually replacing their current husbands and providers with another mate, for reasons that do not always involve resources (thus the illustration of what happened to Vanderbilt)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 12:21 AM
0

my conclusions are hypothetical, and are based on the studies involving dual mating strategy and mate replacement Of course men cheat too--that's not what this is about. It is about the behavior of women specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 12:19 AM
1

Very beautiful women (and men) tend to be narcissistic, self-absorbed, and oblivious to the feelings of others. This isn't always true, but ... I only dated one girl that was downright beautiful in my life, and it was a nightmare. While she could be sweet and fun, every dude on the planet wanted to get into her pants, people fawned over her at work and in her social life, and she had many options. She was selfish, duplicitous, and unreliable. So men like me prefer the wheat field girl who is pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 06:53 PM
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This guy's behavior is totally unacceptable. Losing your temper and getting into arguments is one thing ... Leaving for a few days after threatening divorce is an entirely different thing. That tells me he has zero commitment and investment in your relationship, and that's not good. Even if you upset him somehow, charging out of the house and threatening to end the marriage is a completely inappropriate response. This guy is looking for an excuse to leave, and probably looking for an excuse to c…
/r/RedPillWomen07/11/19 06:47 PM
3

I think this is a situation where the behavior of some women tars the reputation of others. While most woman are NOT promiscuous (this has been established through research), if just a few girls in the dorm are sleeping with dozens of guys, it makes everyone look bad. The same is true for men, and if some guy in the dorm commits a date rape, all the other guys are looked at with suspicion. But I honestly wouldn't worry too much about the N count and attitudes toward it. My wife's N count is doub…
/r/RedPillWomen03/11/19 03:30 PM
1

Women go nuts when you openly say that promiscuity and high N counts are a bad thing: they want to continue doing what they are doing, and practicing hypergamy. Modern feminism has convinced them that unbridled sexual indulgence and promiscuity is an expression of freedom and control. The truth is, the consequences of such behavior are far more severe for woman than for men (pregnancy, more likely to contract diseases, etc.). Now this doesn't mean men should be promiscuous either--as the OP says…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 05:05 PM
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This sucks, but I don't think this hot guy cares a bit about this woman's career, and you can't compete in the superficial, aesthetic olympics. Were you in love with this dude's character, personality, and charisma, or in love with his looks and status? I once fell for a girl because of looks and status--it was a disaster, and something I didn't repeat going forward. I know a lot of "alpha" guys who ended up as losers in their 30s and 40s. Believe me, 90% of the time that doesn't last. So instea…
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/19 03:55 AM
10

I am an asshole to pretty much everyone at work, especially women. Never date, or even express interest in any woman at work, Don't even have a one-on-one conversation
/r/askTRP02/11/19 01:53 AM
1

I'm not making that judgment --it is the guys she likes. But I can see why he is making that judgment--most potheads are not reliable people, and all of them have a dealer in their life. Before legalization, that was tantamount to having a criminal in your life, and a lot of guys don't like that.
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/19 06:38 PM
1

I don't think you really did anything wrong, just missed a few things. If a chick calls you and starts giving you the breakup line, be like "sorry you feel that way. Maybe we can discuss further in the future. I gotta run" hangup and next her hard. I made the beta mistake when I was younger of letting a chick break up with me and then work her way back into my life later. She was a big waste of time, and I could have been with better women. act like someone just cancelled a lunch date. She will …
/r/askTRP31/10/19 06:36 PM
1

well look at it this way: you were the one who reached out first and tried to set something up. They backed off. Now it is up to them to express interest and try and meet up I've had girls initiate several times. My future wife gave me her number without me even asking. if they are into you, they will make an effort. Otherwise, next them and move on
/r/askTRP31/10/19 05:55 PM
2

Sounds like they are keeping you in their orbit in order to stroke their own egos. When it comes time to go out, they flake Don't set up anything with them unless they text you directly and ask to meet up. Otherwise you are totally wasting time
/r/askTRP31/10/19 05:49 PM
2

If you are going to go the dread / mystery / STFU route, it needs to be balanced with keeping her interested and happy. If she is having fun, is fascinated by all the cool stuff you do, places you go, etc., she isn't going to start asking a lot of invasive questions, wondering what you are thinking, or if you are even into her at all. She's bored bro. She likes the sex, but aside from that, you are some quiet dude who doesn't engage her mind, and doesn't seem to have a lot of interests. You are …
/r/askTRP31/10/19 05:43 PM
1

I can count on one hand the number of "actual 10s" I've seen in real life or in film/photography lol.
/r/askTRP31/10/19 05:08 PM
1

nothing to do with low sex drive. A woman could have a low N count, be very selective, and a demon in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 02:50 PM
3

spare me the hand-me-down feminism.
/r/RedPillWomen30/10/19 02:20 PM
6

true --I might have to have a talk with her. The clock is ticking for this girl and she has a lot to offer. It is stupid for a bad habit to derail her love life
/r/RedPillWomen29/10/19 08:09 PM
7

true --a girl does not need to be some expert in music, art, wine, etc. Just genuinely interested
/r/RedPillWomen29/10/19 08:07 PM
3

when we initially met and hung out. Not really a date, but an encounter
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:06 PM
20

Such a "three date" rule is stupid, and counter-productive. I didn't even get a kiss from my future wife until 2 1/2 dates in. Sex was 4-5 dates after that over a couple months. If the girl is the right one, the one with character, conviction, culture, beauty, and all the qualities to be an excellent wife and mother, you should spend as much time as needed before jumping into bed. I often said I'd rather spend 6 months to a year dating the one I know is Miss Right, before ever having sex, than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:00 PM
6

yeah, I have debated on whether or not to tell her the pot smoking should probably stop. She knows it is low-class (has told me) Now that it is legal in most places, it isn't as big of a deal. But keep in mind, that before this, if a girl was a habitual pot smoker, she also had a drug dealer on standby --and that is very bad. Might just be a family member, but it could also be some scum-bag or criminal. I only dated one girl ever who smoked pot on a regular basis. It is completely anecdotal, but…
/r/RedPillWomen29/10/19 06:48 PM
5

Most men yes, but not all Virtually all the women I dated, and the woman I eventually married, were cultured. They liked classical music and opera, museums and cultural events, foreign film, ethnic food, poetry and drama, etc. For myself, and some guys I know, it is a HUGE bonus and key to attraction. Not only does it make the girl a lot more interesting, it also tells us she is from a good family, and has a decent education.
/r/RedPillWomen29/10/19 06:44 PM
0

OK, but that is a European study. Situation is quite a bit different there. I am specifically talking about the US
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:15 PM
0

but where is the recent data? It isn't in that study you posted. That study mentions that recently, the divorce rate for women who out-earn their husbands, has not changed, but it points to another study. The study was this, but it isn't complete: it is a proposal, or abstract https://paa2015.princeton.edu/papers/150296 In here it says that previous studies from decades ago confirmed that women who earn more than their husbands had a higher incidence of divorce, but that things had changed. Now …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:00 PM
0

Women don't go for men "on their level" --they typically practice hypergamy, and go for men one or two levels above. There are some valid reasons for that: men with resources can better provide for a family, and men with high status, stable careers, tend to be more stable providers. Even within a given profession, the divorce rate for women is higher than men. Last I checked, the divorce rate for female doctors was 38% vs. 27% for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:17 PM
0

well some generalizations can be made for sure Many studies both in the US and in Europe have shown that divorce rates skyrocket when the wife achieves high career status, especially in professional fields. It has also been shown that marital satisfaction goes down, especially if the husband's career is not as lucrative or prestigious (women treat husbands who have lower-paying, lower status careers with contempt, and typically divorce them quickly) While studies have shown that girls tend not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 04:13 PM
6

understood I don't mean you should have these big, long text exchanges. Just get to know her a bit through social media, what she is into, etc. If you see she has "likes" for Naomi Wolf and Amy Schumer, you know that taking her out is going to be bad.
/r/askTRP29/10/19 03:14 PM
1

if I asked her on a date, it is on me, regardless of what goes down. Now if the girl asks me out, she can pay
/r/askTRP29/10/19 03:12 PM
0

let me elaborate I want family to come first, not career. If I have to work long hours to provide for the family, someone is going to have to look after the children's education, emotional, and physical needs. That can't be daycare workers, teachers, etc. Now in many cases the woman has to work by necessity, so there is no choice. But in my case there is, and this is the way I want it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:09 PM
1

Soft next? Dude, hard next that
/r/askTRP29/10/19 02:27 PM
1

most of this is good, but #8 might not be I met my future wife at a club, and she was there with her friend. It was her friend who told her I was cute, and encouraged her to go get my number. So she was putting in a good word for me. So it isn't a hard-fast rule.
/r/askTRP29/10/19 02:24 PM
7

true --never do dinner on a first date. Do coffee or grab ice-cream. And talk to her quite a bit beforehand on social media, phone, etc. to make sure she is worth the bother
/r/askTRP29/10/19 02:22 PM
3

Dude, things were bad before you even said that. Any girl who is looking at her watch and announces she has a cold-stop at 8:30pm isn't into you, and wants out of there. While I still would have picked up the tab for dinner, I don't blame you for pushing back. But as for the comment: yeah, you were being a dick, but she sounds like she had it coming
/r/askTRP29/10/19 02:20 PM
4

A lot of guys don't want women as "money makers" --we want good wives and mothers. Marrying some chick who is a lawyer means that your kids will grow up without their mother, in daycare, and then 12 hours of schooling and after-school shit because mom is at the office and can't pick them up. Then mom starts traveling one week a month and ends up banging one of her co-workers at some conference, because she no longer has any kind of connection to her husband. Divorce? Who cares? She will get paid…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 02:10 PM
7

She is being honest and straightforward. Good! I'm not a "10" --from purely objective observation, I've seen like 4-5 guys in my life that I would say were "10s" (actor Onur Tuna is a 10 --show me a dude who looks like that guy. I know I don't) My wife isn't a 10 either, and she knows I don't consider her one. We are together for a lot of reasons aside from looks. There is character, intelligence, drive, prestige, etc. Unless your GF starts talking about your good-looking buddy in some wistful m…
/r/askTRP28/10/19 07:40 PM
9

no I don't think so. Obviously, not every woman has the option to be a housewife and to homeschool (like my wife does). Sometimes working is by necessity. Actuaries can sometimes work from home, and are given flexible hours. Might be a good career option
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/19 07:10 PM
61

I am a traditionally-minded guy. I never wanted a girl who was a doctor or lawyer to be my wife. In fact, it was an immediate disqualification. I wanted a women who made our children the priority, and who would spend lots of time with them, teach them, etc. That work is more important than going out and earning a wage. I didn't want a women who would be working 60 hours a week, traveling, etc., and have my kids in daycare or with a nanny. Kids who would have no relationship with their mother. Ju…
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/19 05:47 PM
4

The friendzone can be amusing ... Many years ago, a female friend of mine, who was pretty cute, asked me if I wanted to attend the Christmas formal with her at her company (a consulting firm). It was pretty clear that this was a date, and we had made some eye contact previous to this. Two days before the event, she calls me to say she is going with someone else, and that she isn't ready to date (she was married to a guy for like two years in her early 20s). I was like "uggh ...you are the one wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:01 PM
2

That's just maturity: when you are a kid, everything feels like love, and the very idea of falling head-over-heels for some chick is romantic. Then you get older, more redpilled, and rational. Your standards (should) go up, along with your expectations.
/r/askTRP17/10/19 06:21 PM
8

so true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 05:39 PM
0

If she is: A hard feminist Has banged black guys Has been sexually-assaulted Is on meds for depression Has a very high N count From a trashy family
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:54 PM
5

Looks can get you an interview, but they will not get you the job. Not every time anyway I am 6'0 185lbs and about a 7 in the looks department. I dress well. When I was in graduate school, I had this chad roommate who was better looking than me--taller, more muscular, and a lot more aggressive with women. We had a mutual friend who knew this girl who was easily a 9/10 --she was beautiful and elegant. My roommate set his sights on her. I ended up with her, and she told me there was no fucking way…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:19 AM
1

I am a white guy and Asian women don't do much of anything for me. I find them boring, rigid, unimaginative, and bossy. Physically they can look nice, but they have purple genitalia (sorry, just a fact--white women's private parts look a whole lot better). Latina women can be hot, but I find them trashy, low-class, an argumentative. I like my European women, and I also like Persian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 11:03 PM
5

Men are not driven to "fuck as many girls as possible". I wasn't like that, and neither were a majority of my male friends. There were a couple guys I knew who wanted to bang everything in sight, but that was not the norm, and they were criticized for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 03:48 PM
1

Small towns/cities suck for social life. You will have to branch out to the city that is 1 hour away (not a big deal) Find yourself a pool party. If you are religious, get involved with the church. Start doing some online dating.
/r/askTRP12/10/19 03:05 PM
1

Dude, what the hell are you doing in a 10 year LTR? What is the plan here?
/r/askTRP12/10/19 04:42 AM
2

While he sounds like a nice guy, and was a gentleman on the first date, I would vet him further for sure. Now this previous marriage may have been something two young people fell into unprepared, and it fell apart for the typical reasons, but there are a couple red flags here The bi-sexual wife raises my eyebrows. While his family might be Christian, did he and his wife embark on some lifestyle that alienated him to his folks? Why did they divorce? If she cheated and broke his heart, he could st…
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/19 03:33 PM
1

There is a difference between rejecting former Chad-chasers and rejecting ALL women. MGTOW guys see bad behavior in some women and extend it to all of them, and the reason they do this is to justify their current and future lack of success in the dating market. It is defeatist in the sense that ultimately having a family is a major goal in life, despite the difficulties. Passing on your genetics to a future generation, continuing the existence of your people, and preparing for a retirement in wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:08 PM
3

The solution to much of this is adherence to standards, enforcement of behavioral norms, etc. In other words, if it is socially acceptable for women to be promiscuous, care-free, and reckless in their late teenage years, into their early 20s, women are going to do just that. The same holds true for men. Dual-mating strategy (AFBB) is encouraged by our culture, and it is made possible by our laws, and social norms. The first step towards correction is for men to begin rejecting women who follow t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 06:51 PM
1

What is the ethnic/racial background on this? Are STDs on the rise among all groups? Or is it focused on certain groups (Hispanics, blacks, etc.)? Immigration (both legal and illegal) from countries with poor public health and hygiene can cause a spike in STDs. Sexual behavior in the poor inner city areas can also cause an increase. So is this really due to millennials not using condoms, or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 03:48 PM
1

nah. he should generally pick up the tab (or look like a broke-ass loser, or a cheapskate), but once they have been dating for a while, she can treat him to a meal
/r/askTRP08/10/19 07:31 PM
86

the OP treats the girl like a house maid and can't even afford to buy her dinner, and yet he thinks he is high value. Go figure
/r/askTRP08/10/19 04:08 PM
0

no, I mean she was acting like a slut because she jumped into bed with a dude in Prague she knew she would never see again. ONS is slutty behavior, men or women. Is it normal single life? Maybe to some degree. But in reality, the vast majority of the girls I knew in college and after college, who I wasn't dating, were not sleeping with lots of guys and having ONS. Almost all of them had LTRs and were pretty serious about finding Mr. Right. Some would go through a few boyfriends every couple of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 11:39 PM
0

nah, not that many. Some do for sure, but research and statistics don't back that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 11:27 PM
0

An ex-girlfriend of mine went to live in England for 6 months right after we broke up. At age 23, I had been her only sex partner (took her virginity). Before she got to England, she traveled around a bit, and the minute she ended up in Prague, she ended up fucking some dude, in what was clearly a ONS or hook-up at best. By the time she got to England, she had gotten with another guy for a bit, and then started living with a girl as a lesbian. Anecdotal yes, but it seems American women become sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 11:26 PM
2

general information like that is fine. I don't really want to know about specific partners either. And then there is the risk of hearing about something that freaks you out (threesomes, freaky stuff, etc.) --so opening Pandora's box is risky. But it is pretty damn sad in this day and age that we even have to worry about hearing about shit like this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 07:44 PM
4

we did fight once or twice about it a few years back. Didn't accomplish much unfortunately (and I am pretty persuasive) It was my RP moment, and in a way, that is a good thing. I had some beta qualities I needed to get rid of. I was also feeding into liberal notions of feminine prerogatives. Not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:39 PM
2

While some of this might be true, you are taking it to extremes to invalidate this guy's position and feelings. Many men are simply unhappy and disgusted by the current state of affairs, and women should be too. Hypergamy, promiscuity, manipulation and shallowness are not good things for men, and not good for society, even though such things have existed for centuries. Men want women they can respect, and who love them for who they are, not what they can provide, be it social capital (a chick wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:53 PM
2

and they wonder why they can't find a "decent guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:20 PM
1

slut-shaming isn't about insecurities. It is about adhering to standards. And it shouldn't be simply directed at women--it should be directed at promiscuous men as well. Now there may be some jealousy tied into it, but there are many other reasons for being critical of reckless and irresponsible behavior. The guy that can't keep it in his pants may very well end up with bastard children, a STD, shot by a jealous husband, divorced, whatever. Now everything is contextual. There is a fine line betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:14 PM
5

a lot of women won't talk about it, or if they do, they will gave you vague answers (at best) I've been married over 10 years and the only thing I have is a body count (12-15) and a couple very vague details (told me she did anal a couple times --all she said). Wouldn't answer any additional questions, and made it clear that a fight would happen if I started asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:01 PM
-1

I think it is important to look at the positives vs. the negatives: You WANT to be a good, traditional wife, and be devoted to your husband. You want to change. That is huge. There are a lot of women out there that simply want to sleep around and then decide one day that they want to have kids, so they find some dude to marry. These women don't have any intention on changing their behaviors or attitudes, and are completely unapologetic about their pasts. Yes, you slept around, and sometimes did …
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/19 03:37 PM
1

didn't you know that the girl down the street will screw you if you just add 5lbs to your bench press?
/r/askTRP02/10/19 07:29 PM
0

With women entering the work force in large numbers and carving out careers for themselves, the "bux" component to this theory is overstated and somewhat inaccurate. In decades earlier, women were motivated to find financial providers for themselves and their children. The need to do that isn't as strong now. SMV only works in the context of superficial sexual desires. You should use MMV (Marital Market Value) as a much better indicator of the overall value of a male. Ideally, the MMV should tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:22 PM
3

After 3 months of dating, you should be looking for the positives and not the negatives. Having conversations with him about potential incompatibilities just leads both of you to look for what is wrong, and might scare him off. Is he ok with abstinence until marriage? Has he had sex partners in the past? Guys get worried when it comes to virgins. We think that she might marry us, but then go looking for other experiences out of some desire to find what she missed. On the flip side, we also worry…
/r/RedPillWomen30/09/19 04:50 PM
16

Why did you even discuss this with her? Like some kind of conversation is going to make it better? If something like this happens, you walk and never look back
/r/askTRP30/09/19 02:06 PM
8

since when do modern, western woman want commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 01:35 PM
63

Sounds pretty humiliating and abusive to me. Why women put up with this stuff these days I will never know
/r/RedPillWomen29/09/19 09:43 PM
9

OK, so let me get this straight. RP guys and MGTOWs complain about the promiscuity and hypergamy of women, and ye insist that pretty much all relationships should start with sex on the first date, or one-night stands?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:42 PM
1

I don't typically hear these canned phrases from men--they are almost always used by women (for various reasons) I don't think it is to protect another's feelings: I think it is to avoid conflict AND keep men within their orbits. "I'm not dating right now" can be interpreted as "I might be open to dating at some future time" (only foolish men will continue to pursue, but ...). "Let's take things slow" can also mean "we are not exclusive, and quite frankly, you are my #2 or #3.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:36 PM
2

He could be outright lying. Unless you want the humiliation of being the "other woman" I would run away
/r/RedPillWomen29/09/19 07:34 PM
2

every frustrated guy out there starts finding assholes around every corner, and then blames those guys for his lack of dating success. It is total confirmation bias. High quality women don't date assholes--ever. Low-quality, trashy chicks who have limited options end up with assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 03:32 PM
1

that is true, but that wasn't the point I was making. Reliability and honesty are not key factors in finding a mate, but they are key factors in being a leader of men. The idea that these qualities are somehow "bad" in a general sense is autistic mgtow nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 03:22 PM
2

6 which is like a miracle these days. I only know 1-2 women with less than that, especially at her age
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 03:20 PM
1

there is a big difference between being nice to women and a decent husband, and being some passive, cucky doormat You have to express authority, stand your ground on key issues, and be assertive when it comes to your wants and needs. You have to be strong and stoic. All that is good, but if you go from there to being a total asshole to your wife, forgetting her birthday, staying out all night without explanation, etc., you will quickly find yourself in divorce court. That isn't being alpha, it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 03:15 PM
21

excellent ...means a lot to guys (the right guys)
/r/RedPillWomen29/09/19 12:03 AM
5

In the context of gaming? idk There are many ways to express desire in a subtle way. Eye contact, brief smiles, and perfectly phrased complements. Examples: I met a girl a couple weeks ago in a restaurant. Beautiful girl, just amazing. Today, I saw the same girl in the supermarket, and she looked over and said "hey I remember you"! to which I replied while making a little eye contact "and I certainly remember you. You are difficult to forget" and then I went back to what I was doing Express desi…
/r/askTRP28/09/19 11:15 PM
13

that's what I was wondering. If I saw some 6'3 dude bullying a much smaller guy I would step in right quick
/r/askTRP28/09/19 10:41 PM
6

you can complain all you want. Meatheads who don't read books don't get quality women. Guys who work on biceps instead of their careers and education end up working at Chilis, and then they get into their late 20s and women of quality laugh at them. The dbag with the backwards cap who can't put together a coherent sentence isn't getting top-shelf women. I am not saying this to be elitist. I'm actually giving out good advice. Self improvement means improving the entire self, learning how to navig…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 10:15 PM
2

meh, I would say they are "omega" qualities --stuff that doesn't "excite" women, but clearly falls into the plus column. Unless you are saying Alpha men are inherently unreliable, dishonest, etc. --I don't consider that Alpha, because leaders of men are not like that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 08:54 PM
6

quality women want to do interesting, cultural things. Nights at the opera or symphony, gallery openings, architectural tours, festivals, and when you get more serious with them, foreign travel, etc. Case-in-point from a couple nights ago. I was at a bar with friends for an after-work thing. A couple of the dudes were better looking than me and ripped. When a very hot waitress came by and asked me what I wanted, I made some eye contact and said I would take a bottle of the Mouton Rothschild. She…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 08:03 PM
4

Yes, I did see the studies on Tinder, etc., and it seemed to confirm this 80/20 idea. There was also some study that said 90% of women won't even consider dating a guy under 6 feet tall, even though only 14% of the male population in the states is 6 feet or over. Shallowness for sure. But we also have to consider things like socio-economic class, education, etc. When we go beyond looks, women (and men) are not likely to date a working-class guy with a GED, if they themselves have a college degre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 07:47 PM
6

but this isn't the Pareto principal. It might use that as a foundation of some kind, but I think it needs to be borne out through research
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 07:12 PM
1

agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 07:11 PM
11

I was wondering: have there actually been any empirical studies to confirm the 80/20 rule in western countries? Or is this just a theory based on anecdotal evidence (at best) I wouldn't doubt it is real, but I'd like some confirmation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 06:21 PM
3

reliability and honesty are not beta qualities. Let's take those qualities away from a 4-star general and see how much of an alpha man / leader he is. a beta male is a guy who placates women to his own detriment, white-knights, has very little backbone, has white guilt, and is a good little worker-bee. He might make money or have a decent career, but he coworkers think he is a weasel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 05:56 PM
5

well that is true --empowered western women in post-sexual revolution society are prone to AF/BB behavior. Some of them consciously do it. But we need to fix our woman AND our men. Guys don't like to hear this. By sleeping around, men perpetuate this behavior and make it more common. And then we need to change our society on a fundamental level, and change our value system. Women in the Islamic world don't have 30 sex partners before marriage, kids out of wedlock, or carry around 2-3 STDs. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:26 PM
7

AF/BB s simplistic. Why? It assumes that women have a greater degree of agency and self-awareness over their actions than they really do. A young women simply doesn't know what is important in life, and a lot of guys are in the same situation. When you were dating in your early 20s, were you thinking long-term, about family, about future? nah. Beta bucks is real, but it isn't what it seems (usually). Hypergamy is a rational strategy for women, because women ultimately imagine themselves with chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:19 PM
1

I am 49, so I don't hang out with a lot of very young women. This is just one that I know of personally. She has no kids. Of course there are quality women in their early 20s. The wheat field girls that men are obligated to find
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:14 PM
3

It is the Faustian impulse of the western man: we are never completely satisfied with what we have, or what we have achieved, and will continue to strive towards impossible heights, even if it destroys us. It can be a good thing, or destructive. It is certainly a problem with me (comparing my wife against other women, or even my career against others, and wondering ...). But my sense of duty, tradition, and self-worth keeps me from doing anything stupid. Because most of the time, the grass ins't…
/r/askTRP28/09/19 04:13 PM
7

It is good that men better themselves, but a lot of RP guys do it in the wrong way. Working out in the gym for 4 hours a day to make yourself ripped might get you some more attention, but a lot of that is for other guys, not girls. When taken to an extreme, it becomes some weird homoerotic thing. Stay in shape yes, but learn a new language, take a course in fine wine, watch some foreign films, work on your career, learn to speak in public, improve yourself culturally. Engage in politics or ideol…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 03:57 PM
2

This might be purple pill, or maybe a black pill, but while men have had to increase their qualities and desirability, women have not been motivated to do the same thing In other words, western women in 2019 are of conspicuously low value as both girlfriends and wives, when you compare them to women from the past, or in other cultures. Why? High N-counts: lack of self-control, discipline, and self-worth. Riding the CC unapologetically. Materialistic and focused on career objectives rather than f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 03:50 PM
2

wait until you get into your 40s lol Women love confidence and serenity in men, and I have a lot of that right now. I'm relatively wealthy, with a good career, and I kept myself in good shape. I'm also happily married, but I get more good attention from women now than I ever did. I had a waitress at a bar put her number into my shirt when she brought me the bill the other night --that was a first (and she was gorgeous) I'll never cheat, but the attention is nice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 03:34 PM
15

bullshit. I am 49 and have known many women, both as friends and lovers. I have listened to what they told me and observed how they acted. Yes they wanted attractive exciting men, but they also wanted guys who were reliable, honest, and who other men looked up to. By the time these women got into their late 20s, they matured and realized that a good man who didn't act like a child, who didn't have to be taken care of, who had good prospects, was the man they wanted. The highest quality single gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 03:28 PM
6

The "nice guys finish last" thing is a stupid generalization. There is a difference between being a passive doormat and a "nice guy". I was a nice guy since the start, and I didn't have any problem getting dates. Once I did settle on a girl, I had relationships that lasted 3-4 months to a few years. A certain type of women goes after bad boys, and that is typically when she is young. It is female rebellion, just as when young guys go after the "dangerous" girl. It's all about excitement, and we …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 03:17 PM
1

I'm not sure what your point is. Are you saying that high N-counts are nothing to be ashamed of, and that they don't lead to people judging us harshly, or maybe unfairly? Or are you saying that women who are trying to better themselves and find quality men shouldn't be judged harshly for things they no longer do? Quite honestly, if Tinder had been around when I was in my 20s, my N-count would probably be 20+, and I would not be proud of it at all (I'm a pretty good looking guy and successful. No…
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/19 07:53 PM
3

Men of quality will have an issue with it. We can scream and yell and say it isn't fair, but that is reality. Sleeping around is not a good character trait for either men or women. Some people don't care, but most people do. I was worried that her sexual past might make her more likely to seek a divorce in the future. I wanted to marry a woman I respect. But like I said, I came to terms with that history, put it behind me the best I could, and we ended up getting married. Been together ever sinc…
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/19 07:38 PM
1

Tinder has turned both men and women into degenerates. No other way to say it. I have very little respect for people who can't control their sexual impulses, and who treat people like objects. I worry about my teenage boys, and what kind of dating life they will experience. If things are bad now, I can't imagine what it is going to be like 10 years from now.
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/19 07:28 PM
1

studies have shown that divorce rates and marital unhappiness skyrocket when one of the partners (especially the woman) has more than 10 lifetime sex partners. There is also the issue of STDs (especially HPV, which a lot of women don't even know they have). I didn't get all the details from my wife about her previous encounters. I probably should have, because when guys don't have details, their imaginations start running wild, and they assume the worst. We were actually engaged when we had the …
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/19 07:26 PM
4

wow, women are having a lot more sex these days apparently. Well into double-digits by 30 can't be a good thing. My wife had a N-count of 12-15, and that became an issue before we got married. I was ultimately cool with it, and it doesn't bother me much now, but she was my 7th! But the N-count doesn't matter as much as what the sexual history involved. Having a bunch of boyfriends over the years isn't going to bother guys much, especially if most of those were LTR. But if there were threesomes, …
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/19 02:10 PM
0

the league stuff is silly. And there isn't buyer's remorse If there were, I would be out the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 07:57 PM
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negative: I had imperfect and vague information about her sexual history, and that was part of the problem. My imagination started running wild because I didn't have much to go on. It is easy to start imagining yourself in some af/bb situation when that happens
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 07:54 PM
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I think the Madonna-whore thing is outdated. Most guys these days are not looking for some virginal, inexperienced girl, while visiting hookers on the side. Most guys want a girl who is a good lover, and who has had some experience. That doesn't mean she is a whore. There are plenty of women who have had 4-5 LTRs with good sex, and are marriage material. And like others have said, being dirty and fun in the context of marriage is great. Being "slutty for him" is just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 07:45 PM
1

how fucking old are you? Might want to finish high school before commenting on this board
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 07:16 PM
1

I can guarantee I treat my wife better than any guy has ever treated you And I don't buy into redpill (see my post about that).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 07:13 PM
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it isn't just about the anal. You did read the OP yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:51 PM
2

This is probably correct: I think she likes straightforward, simple, pounding sex. She gets off and calls it a night. I wouldn't say I am inexperienced by any stretch though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:50 PM
1

yeah go figure lol --the option was on the table. Somehow it never happened
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:49 PM
1

spare me the feminism future cat-lady
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:44 PM
2

While thee is some truth to what Rollo says, and some women certainly act this way, it isn't a complete theory, and it is full of holes. For instance: men also practice similar behavior. Ever have a hot GF who was wild in bed, but whom you never had the intention of marrying? She was unstable, had no job, was 100k in debt, drank too much --but she was fun! My friends used to tease me about the hot "goth girls" I dated in my 20s. I didn't have any intention or expectation of something long-term w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:42 PM
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I don't pay too much attention to the redpill stuff. Some of it is correct, but a lot of it is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:31 PM
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I am 49, and she is a bit older
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:30 PM
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don't try to convince me to be a cucky beta-male doormat. People who want good marriages and sex lives attend to their partner's needs, and beyond the bedroom there are always sacrifices and obligations. This feminist idea that men are there as complacent meal-tickets needs to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:29 PM
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I think this may have a lot to do with what is going on. She has this image of me as this conservative guy who wants a trad-wife, and has internalized the idea that it means keeping the wild sexy stuff out of the marriage. I probably waited too long to change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:26 PM
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I never did anal, but I had plenty of fun, and some very hot sex (and some bad sex too)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:10 PM
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sexual history is important. There might have been kids born out of wedlock, STDs, etc. If a chick had 6 abortions, she probably won't be able to have kids. A potential husband needs to know that On a lesser level, both men and women need to know if a potential spouse has had a string of short-term, bad relationships. It could mean that person is ill-suited for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:09 PM
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and this is why men cheat lol (not that I am going to cheat, but ...) If the wife's attitude is "I'm not obligated to do shit for you, you're not entitled to anything, but you better bring home that paycheck and mow the lawn!", men respond by getting what they want on the side. Reactionary feminism within marriage means men feel rightfully justified in cheating, and the women ends up as a cat lady after a nasty divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:06 PM
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And I had amazing sex with some ex-girlfriends back in the day. The way the world works. The porno-slut isn't the one you marry. Did she have some dude with a 9 inch dick and a six-pack back in the day? Maybe. I can't worry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:01 PM
1

we are in our 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:57 PM
2

I remember reading this a while back. Pretty scary stuff. Fortunately, my situation isn't anywhere near that bad (I would be out the door), but it is something every guy needs to be conscious of
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:57 PM
2

dread protocols have been considered
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:50 PM
1

if she weren't into me sexually, there would have been little to no sex from the start, and the sex that did happen would have been bad. It wasn't like that. She enjoys the sex, always orgasms, and is very into me. It's just very vanilla. She was Mrs Right because she was cultured, mature, intelligent, cute, and from a good family. She wasn't a game player. Out of my league? maybe in some ways--she is from an old wealthy family. So there is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:49 PM
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I made it clear in my post this isn't just about anal. Goes way beyond that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:41 PM
1

I suspect that the guys you have your eye on are pretty simple, uncultured, and shallow. You say you are artistic and talented --you need to find a guy who appreciates that, and is honestly interested in it. For instance, if you are a classical musician, and a guy you know shows up to one of your recitals or practices, that is a very good sign. Or if it is fine art, maybe a guy wants to go with you to a gallery opening, or to see some of your art. ​ When I hear "Alpha male" I think meathead in a…
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/19 05:38 PM
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some of this is true for sure, and it plays into my situation. I had a girlfriend once who was a demon in bed. Full-on porno stuff, some of which I was even hesitant to do. She was also very sexually liberated and not shy about going out and getting it. And while I liked the sex, I was a little freaked out about her past. I was like "if she is like this with me, what else has she done?" So with my wife, I was probably trying to retain a certain image of her as a "good girl", and didn't press the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:22 PM
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I do lift. Not completely ripped, but in pretty good shape. My diet is good, and I have all my hair. On the looks scale for a guy my age (40s), I am a solid 7. Not Brad Pitt, but handsome. Other women flirt with me lol. I have single female friends (platonic) who say things like "I wish I could find a guy like you --not married of course ..." So really, if I were some cucky guy happy with what I get, this wouldn't be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:00 PM
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The sex, on a scale of 1 - 10 is about a 5 or maybe 6. So it isn't "bad", just not great. But yes, you are correct in saying I want some things that she doesn't. I wish she would expand her mind a bit and decide some new stuff that she likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:56 PM
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like others have said here, people change. It seems that some people think it is OK to change in such a way as to become more prudish, but not to change in a way as to become more adventurous. When I was 29 (when we first met), I was cool with pretty standard sex. Not missionary/boring sex, but nothing particularly adventurous. In addition to that, I didn't want to push the envelope too much with a woman who was obviously "Mrs Right". But when I got older, I was like "hey, I'd like to spice thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:51 PM
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thanks for the reply. so I'm not crazy lol and let me emphasize: whatever my wife wants sexually, she gets. Especially if it is something I did with another girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:49 PM
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I'm sure she is stressed about some stuff. We have two kids, and are very busy. There are plenty of times when even I am too tired for sex, or not in the right frame of mind. I imagine this has a lot to do with the lack of excitement in the bedroom, and I may be reading into things more than I should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:33 PM
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Well I don't know her detailed sex history, and I'm not sure I want to know (she probably wouldn't tell me anyway). But if she hadn't done certain things, this would be much less of an issue. You see the difference between the way the men are reacting to this post than the women. Most of the guys are like "you are a beta cuck for putting up with this", while the women are like "she has a right to shut you you down!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:31 PM
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that is probably true. Most of her sex was probably inferior to what we even have now. She is extremely practical, steady, and a bit serious. Good traits for a reliable wife, but not good for wild sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:28 PM
1

it isn't just anal. It was a bunch of other stuff I wanted to try, but she just wasn't into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:18 PM
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nah, I got some good answers there, but this is a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:17 PM
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I did ask her, and she didn't come back with much of anything. That is one of the issues here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:12 PM
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well that is a worry, but I think it is too simplistic. First of all, I'm certainly not a beta (6'1 185lbs, excellent shape, good looking, six figure salary, wealthy family, advanced degree --just about all the checkboxes) and if I were, I wouldn't be raising this issue. I'd just be like "oh well, whatever she wants!" But yeah, I do worry a bit about this behavior from her
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:11 PM
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I don't think I mean less to her, but human sexuality is a complex thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:07 PM
1

yeah, but she is pretty striking and exotic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:48 AM
1

not necessarily. My father was very involved with my family before he died, and loved his grandkids. It might have been the only thing he really found purpose in at the very end. yeah, I know, modern, western woman, are problematic, but finding a good wife is possible. Starting a family is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 06:53 PM
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A good man is one of integrity, courage (both moral and physical), and culture. He pulls together the practical and speculative virtues, is always seeking to better himself and society, and has a feeling for aesthetics. Examples: T.E. Lawrence, Sir Richard Francis Burton, Wagner, Leon Degrelle, etc. He is a man other men look up to, not because he bangs a lot of women, or has 20 inch arms, but because he is a superior individual, and a natural leader. There are no short-cuts to being this kind o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 06:42 PM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 06:37 PM
1

yeah dude, but you don't want to be in your 40s a single. Those guys are looked at by society as losers, closet homosexuals, pedophiles, or whatever. Sorry, that is just the fact. Starting a family is something you need to do. You don't want to be 65 and single, long after all the hot tail has abandoned you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 06:34 PM
1

Quite honestly, I was ALWAYS a "good guy" or even a "nice guy" (even though that carries a negative connotation) What did that mean? Not using pick-up lines or acting like a dbag. Not looking for one-night-stands, or doing pump-and-dumps. Not ridiculing or putting down women in some effort to seem disinterested or edgy. I had standards for myself and my women. Once I did get a date, I started with some coffee, and if that worked out, we would go to an opera or a nice dinner. Maybe a picnic. No g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 06:05 PM
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David Bowie was more alpha than alpha lol. There wasn't a woman on this planet who would kick him out of bed. His masculinity was in his tremendous will, his tireless drive, complete indifference towards his critics, and courage to re-shape the world of music. Sure, he was androgynous at one point, but for most of his career he was dapper and stylish. And he was smart and cultured.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 05:50 PM
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she is trying to invoke mimetic desire (telling you someone desires her, so you should do the same) Instead of gaming her, just figure out if she is worth dating and go from there. Continue to ignore her statements about this other dude
/r/askTRP25/09/19 03:16 PM
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classic
/r/MensRights28/08/19 03:48 PM
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While some of this is correct, you are assuming that women think the way men do. They don't. There is something called "Mimetic Desire", and it is fundamental in understanding female psychology, especially in reference to sexual and romantic matters. A women doesn't decide who she wants to date or have sex with based on her own, rational desires. She makes decisions based on what other women in her peer-group are doing. A woman thinks socially, not individually. Ever ask out a girl, have her tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:16 PM
3

you have responsibility for your kids. Don't go pushing that on the taxpayer
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 02:59 PM
1

true --guys with no money and losers turn check-time into an awkward situation. First dates can be coffee, a drink, hiking, etc., but that first dinner date is always on the man. You slide your card to the server without ever breaking eye contact with your date. Another reason no to go dutch, is that it immediately allows the woman to friend-zone you. If she is insistent on paying, you probably didn't make a good impression, and she wants to make sure this is just a "friendly meal".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 02:51 PM
1

yeah, good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 02:45 PM
1

you go ahead and tell yourself that. Meanwhile, the women you go dutch with will look at you like a cheapskate loser. Again, I don't make the rules, but that is how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 02:44 PM
1

that could be true, but I have a rule in life never, ever look like a cheapskate. We all have that one friend who is a tightwad that everybody talks shit about when he isn't around. The dude who goes into a four star restaurant and orders table water. The guy who drives a PoS car when he could easily afford something that isn't rusted-out. The guy who goes dutch when he dates. The guy who pulls out a calculator to see how much he owes after a group dinner. I have heard many women say "he was a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:23 PM
2

programming and engineering not socially acceptable careers? say what? Many years ago, I was a teacher (high school and college). Now THAT wasn't socially acceptable, as women see a dude in poverty with big student loans. I might as well have been a garbage man. Since I moved to the IT field, and have become successful to some degree, I didn't have any problems getting dates, and ultimately married.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 05:01 PM
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well if the incel has low SMV , he will have a hard time anywhere. But we also can't assume that every chick out there looks like Rose Leslie and can have any Chad she wants just by smiling. There are a lot of girls out there who are plain, a bit overweight, and have poor social skills or low self-esteem. The incels I have encountered are ugly dudes who think they are entitled to hot women. When they get shot down, they start complaining about how unfair the dating scene is. But one thing the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:36 PM
2

well not every chick out there is a slut in her 20s, nor do they get fat in their 30s (my wife is in better shape now than 15 years ago) If the incel goes out to bars, he isn't going to find a whole lot of quality women. If he goes out to a charity function, a political meeting, on a hiking trip, or even to a religious function, he could meet a nice girl who is looking to get married and start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:26 PM
1

The man pays always. If the woman offers to take you to dinner, tell her that you would like it better if she cooked you a nice meal at her place ... Guys that don't pay for the dates, especially the first couple, are looked at as cheapskates or losers, and rarely get additional dates. Every woman I have ever spoken to confirms this. If you don't like it, sorry. I don't make the rules. Either look like a chump, or do what is expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:11 PM
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it is only betabux if a man is being exploited by his wife. The inverse to betabux is guys who bang hot sluts when they are in their 20s, and then settle down with a conservative chick from a good family in order to have babies and build a home. It's that same shit: slut around when young, and then settle-down with someone who might not be exciting or hot, but who is reliable and has resources. I was certainly guilty of some of that. I knew the hot goth chick with a drug problem wasn't future wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 02:29 PM
1

OK, it is easy, and I wish I knew this when I was 20-25 years old. You find a women of outstanding character, who has an ideology consistent with yours. A women who wants a traditional family, values men, and who respects you. Make sure she has maturity, drive, honesty, etc. Not easy to find that, I know. But if you get with some chick who has feminist ideas, is immature, selfish, and all-over-the-place ideologically and politically, you are going to be disappointed. She will be unreliable, flig…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 09:59 PM
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Hypergamy is essentially a bad word for something that is quite reasonable and biologically driven. A woman will desire a man that has lots of resources, initiative, and status. Not simply because she wants to go out and buy nice things for herself, or be wined and dined, but because she wants a safe place to have children, a stable home, etc. She may also want some status for herself. Obviously, some women take this to an extreme, or are outright gold-diggers. That isn't the norm. Young men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 09:41 PM
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I've been to marriedredpill. A vast majority of the guys over there have clearly never been married, and most are under the age of 18. One of the biggest collection of incel losers on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 09:24 PM
1

As others have pointed out here, there are no pure "alpha males" running around out there. There are some men that are more assertive than others, but it depends on situation. I've seen guys that are very confident around women, but submissive wimps in a business setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 09:21 PM
1

I do lift and exercise --that isn't going to change my wife. For a guy who is 48, I am 6'0 185lbs solid. I have a very good social life, with a lot of friends, so that isn't an issue either. But it is true that I might be too "nice of a guy", and that is partly what worries me. I've read some of the literature surrounding this stuff. What I put into the marriage and home life is my six-figure salary, work ethic, efforts to educate the kids, etc. But these days, women expect this shit and don't s…
/r/MarriedRedPill02/01/19 08:49 PM
2

Lots of BLM crap in there as well
/r/TheRedPill23/01/17 04:11 PM
1

Update: I sat my wife down and told her that this situation needed to change. That she needs life insurance, and that the trust needs to specify clearly that her money would go to the kids, and I would have control of it until they reached 18. I also said I wanted to be on the accounts. She came around and agreed. We worked it out diplomatically. thanks for the help guys
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 04:16 PM
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unlike you Mr. NEET, I have worked 20 years in the private sector and am more than capable of providing for myself and the kids. I live my life to the fullest I can. There is something called estate planning: I have done it, my dad has done it, etc. When you are married, it isn't about you anymore, it is about the family (or should be). If you fuck up estate planning, you get raped by the IRS, invite family battles over assets, or lose money. I intend to provide for my kids after I die. This isn…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/16 08:56 PM
1

I would certainly hope so. Nevertheless, I left my inheritance to her directly, not the kids. I didn't bypass her, or use her as a custodian until the kids were 18.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/16 06:59 PM
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true, but if she died before her father, her entire inheritance would be split between our kids and her family (according to her). In other words, I am not in the equation. Now it is her money technically, and I understand that. But my inheritance lists her as the direct beneficiary, and we even have a joint account already set up for that. It was never a consideration that I would bypass her and leave the money to the kids when they hit 18. I always planned to take care of her. This is a red-pi…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/16 06:44 PM
1

I got a policy ready to go, and we would have no problem paying for it. I get some life insurance through work. She just told me "ok, we can get some life insurance, but we should decide what we need" WE don't need life insurance. She is worth 3+ million all by herself, not including my IRA (another 100k) and the house and savings. I am the one who would be in trouble if she died, because I would have to quit my job to continue homeschooling and taking care of the kids, and her inheritance goes …
/r/TheRedPill16/12/16 06:38 PM
1

I have been gaming for many years, mostly RPGs, but also board games, and a few video games here and there. In that time, I have seen the hobby dramatically change. Many table-top gaming scenes have become the province of SJWs and socially-maladjusted males. These males seek affirmation and brownie points from other losers and the few females who engage in the hobby. The most popular RPG, Pathfinder, has a long list of gay and transgendered characters that appear in its adventure modules and boo…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 07:39 PM
1

Money and fame does not make you a real man. Johnny falls in with those effeminate, self-hating, leftist candy-asses who lose the respect of their women (if they ever even had it).
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 05:49 PM
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This is one of the reasons we homeschool the boys. They don't get any of this bullshit
/r/MGTOW04/01/16 11:52 PM
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