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No, cultural zeitgeist impacts fertility rate far more than economic zeitgeist. I never said it didn't. Unchecked capitalism is both a cultural and economic issue (the word is socio-economic). Culture and economics are intertwined concepts that don't exist in vacuums exclusive to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:50 AM
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First off. The OP is about discussing this phenomena in western society. Not China or Russia or whatever country on the globe that you can point towards as an outlier i never argued that this was a global issue. Those countries all have entirely separate discussions and issues unique to themselves. Secondly. I never said Capitalism itself is bad. I said Unchecked Capitalism is bad. Being able to acknowledge the issues in a hyper-Capitalist western society doesn't in any way suggest that we ought…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:43 AM
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I feel like I've clearly hit a nerve somewhere within you. But you're also unwilling to engage or discuss your disagreement in good faith. So you're just lobbing random non-sequitor arguments at me with zero context as to what the fuck you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:04 PM
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This just the lazy socdem answer to very extensive and complicated social phenomenon "Unchecked capitalism". In other words, cost of living, inflation, debt, etc Saying "Unchecked capitalism" is just a simpler palatable term to use to identify the vast collection of socio-economic problems under this large umbrella of a topic. Yes I know there exists market regulations in the US and state owned businesses. I'm just using the term "unchecked/unregulated" as a short hand for discussions on issues …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:21 PM
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There's literally no such thing as a "non-capitalist" country. The issue isn't capitalism. The issue is unregulated capitalism. Did you actually read what's up there before jumping to respond?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:44 PM
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What a weird response. Edit: Ah you're a landlord. Now your reaction makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:01 PM
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I dont really follow your point. Please elaborate more on what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:42 PM
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Your comment needs to be at the top. The culprit behind the death of modern dating is the same culprit behind most societal issues. Unchecked Capitalism. A country's fertility rates directly corresponds based on the health of its community, urbanisation and economic structure. Unchecked or Unregulated capitalism pushes people to work their whole lives to the ground with no time to build and maintain healthy relationships. The cost of living, mortgage and various debt crisis has made many people'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:13 PM
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Lol I don't think you read my post correctly
/r/seduction01/11/22 10:09 AM
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Dating
/r/seduction01/11/22 10:06 AM
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This is exactly what I meant when I said I don't think this sub is qualified to discuss this topic in good faith. This is the kind of wishy washy non-answer I expected. Even if most guys are struggling more than ever, your odds of success are exponentially worse if you're in a community where you're marginalised. If you're an Asian guy in a Western country/community. You're going to struggle a lot more than if you're in an Asian country/community. Lets use another example. A gay man that lives i…
/r/seduction01/11/22 10:03 AM
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You're looking at Asian "Chad's" not the average Asian guy. KRock/Pop/Drama inspired Asian fem boys pulled straight out of TikTok are dominating yes. And of course you've got the rich punjabi guys driving around in their rich dad's Mercedes-Benz. But much like with most demographics they're in the extreme minority. When discussing Asian men, the average guy is just a normal looking schmuck like everyone else, who hasn't had a relationship in years if ever. The problem is, there's lots of negativ…
/r/seduction01/11/22 08:26 AM
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Aww cute
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:20 PM
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A 22 year old with 40+ bodies is... concerning. Like there's definitely some deeper psychological issues at play there. That many sexual partners before you've barely entered into adulthood would point towards a rather unstable relationship history ergo an unstable individual. But as you get older though, most people's numbers will start to add up. If your marriage doesn't work out. You're most probably gonna get a few extra notches added to your n count too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:09 PM
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That's fair. It's not easy coming back from a lie/betrayal of trust. And boundaries are important. For me though. A 40+ body count ain't that big a deal. Depending on age anyway. I'm 28 so most of my peers and I are already in the double digits. Given that we've been sexually active for 12 years or so. But yeah, I would probably cringe at a 18-21 year old with THAT many bodies. Thats just concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:52 PM
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The 2nd was actually a gf who lied to me about her n and then confessed about 9 months in. I promptly broke up with her. This one really stung because I liked her a lot. How much did she claim vs the real number? Presumably you must have liked her personality and other aspects right? Why did the n count reveal suddenly warrant a break up if she was someone you were compatible enough to date before learning that info?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:02 AM
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This question doesn't make any sense. She's just stated that she's in an exclusive relationship. Obviously she's not going around fucking other guys, and neither is her male partner fucking other girls (I can only assume anyway). Whatever point you're trying to draw from this is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:39 AM
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Let me just preface this by saying that I don't like the "Lock & Key" analogy either. I think it's frequently misused in very dehumanising and sexist discourse and reducing people down to objects is never a good way to have good faith discussions. But OP's argument fundamentally missed the point of why it exists. OP is arguing that you can subplant any analogy to work in any context. Which is absolutely right. You can deconstruct virtually any analogy under the lens of scrutiny. But the reason t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:45 AM
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Yup. We're at a point where society has become progressive enough to tackle harmful gender stereotypes, particularly those directed towards women (being housewives, submissive etc) But not much is being directed towards the fact that men are still very much held to these unfair gender norms based around taking the initiative in 90% of dating and relationship environments. If we're being honest. How many women actually approach men in public? ask men out on dates? offer to pay for him, and ultima…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:35 PM
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They respond poorly to YOUR forwardness. Here's the thing that I've noticed a lot of women struggle with. There's a principle difference between being forward and making an effort. Being "forward" is just being blunt and direct. Which can be refreshing and appreciated, but being too forward can also come across as rude and disrespectful to the other person if not done with careful consideration. When guys say they want women to make an "effort", what they mean is they want a team player Someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:43 AM
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Thank you for this. This has been an interesting and informative read. Out of curiosity, have you ever wanted children? Or do you feel that the health related issues you've described have completely put you off the idea altogether? And following the question of if you do want children. Would you ever consider the option of surrogacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:45 AM
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Sounds like you need to retake a sex-ed class and learn what contraceptives are before you're ready for these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:42 AM
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No worries! I know sometimes it's easy to get sucked into the rabbit hole when arguing with people here. I do agree with you that men should take responsibility for pregnancies. But unfortunately sex and life is complicated. Accidents happen. And not everyone is always ready for that responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:07 PM
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I just want to point out that you're literally paraphrasing rape apologist rhetoric. But because we're talking about men being the victims of non-consensual unprotected sex, you're implicitly ignoring a huge double standard in a desperate effort to win an argument. If we flip the roles and say that it was a man who tampered with a condom while having sex with a woman. He would already be on the news. I think you need consider thoroughly what kind of hill you're willing to die on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:01 PM
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Matters to whom? And by how much? And at what threshold does the degree/circumference of the gluteus maximus needs to be met before its met the appropriate quota? Are counting the softness of the tissue? Does muscle fibre and body fat percentage factor? Do we need to break it down by age and ethnic groups? What about cultural influences? Lets really deep dive and study this using concrete scientific metrics. Or does this all sound kinda stupid and subjective to you? Let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:26 PM
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Lol of course there's hope. Otherwise It wouldn't make any mathematical sense how the Earths population continues to grow and sustain if women were as hyper selective as these myths would have you believe. 70% of men become bald. 82% of men are under 6ft 40% of the US population is overweight. And as for dick size. 80% of women don't really give a shit. As only 20% of women can orgasm from vaginal stimulation. Its less about the size of your meat and more about what dat mouf do. If women actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:21 PM
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That was completely unintentional on my part. I was being sarcastic. But I suppose you're right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:04 PM
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These fuckers talk about women like Pokemon, and wonder why women want nothing to do with them. But to answer OP's question: It really depends on type match ups. For example... OP if you're a Fire Type. You'll be more successful against Grass/Ice Type Women. However, you'll be weak against Water/Rock Type Women. The trick to play to your match up strengths.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:55 PM
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Dude what are you taking about?! I made a lot of points up there. You're gonna have to be more specific about what particular point it is that you're disagreeing with. Use the reddit quote function and narrow it down a bit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:36 PM
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thread/ Another point worth adding is divorced men struggle immensely more than divorced women in dating. Men completely fall apart after a major breakup due to having limited support systems and lowered dating prospects. Men implicitly know that they're unlikely to experience this level of intimacy again for a very very long time. So they'll put up the marriage for as long as they can because it's better than being alone. A single man in his 40-50s out of a failed marriage, knows full well that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:45 AM
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If you had to choose between your own blood child and non-blood, you'd choose your blood. Give me a SINGLE example of a real life situation where this has happened to a same sex couple family. And show how its a demonstrable trend in same sex families that they will abandon their children. I want you to prove your bullshit with actual real evidence. The problem with people like you, is you love to make up imaginary scenarios and hide behind terms like biology to mask your very obvious prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:55 AM
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If there was a situation in which you could save your biological child or a non-biological one, your lizard brain would choose the one with your DNA every time. What on Earth situation are you talking about. Please give me an example of this "situation" in same sex families. I would love to hear it. Also you do realise that millions of biological parents abandon their children right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:43 AM
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I said that children do best with both biological parents. Two men and two women can never be biological parents to a child. No. Children do best with TWO parents. They don't need to be genetically related to facilitate healthy and positive development and upbringing for a child. And like I said, there's no scientific evidence that children of same sex parent families suffer any unique development issues. No. Nature determines how children are conceived. One egg and one sperm. The discussion is …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:59 PM
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Two men and two women cannot produce a child. Yes they can. It's called Surrogacy and Artificial Insemination. And in many cases. Adoption. Like I said, nature determines what normal is. Not us. If you truly think nature determines what's right or wrong in the world, then I suggest you log off, throw your phone/pc away, quit your job and go live in the woods on a diet of raw fish and plants. I'm sure you'll be fine without all the benefits of "unnatural" social constructs such as technology, med…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:06 PM
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Women today are less happy today than in the past by most metrics. Please provide a source or a single peer reviewed "metric" that substantiates this claim. You can't just make some giant sweeping statement like this with no basis, about women's collective mental health from some non-descript timeline, and argue that there's some possible direct correlation to horniness? Wat??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:26 AM
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Are we talking about needs in terms of pure survival (like how you need oxygen) or in terms of maslow's hierarchy - towards self-actualization (leading a fulfilled life). Because in either case reproduction plays an essential part of that. It's not a need for any individual to do. Sure. But it is a need in that we are alive right now because of reproduction. You are able to live and sustain yourself because others made the choice to reproduce and create the community and environment that keeps y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 02:21 PM
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Its a built in instinct that's essential to the survival of our species.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:42 AM
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I think they mean reproduction. Not just getting a nut.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:25 AM
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To be more specific. The problem is to do with how men are raised, supported and treated within society. A country with very good educational environment, a healthy and stable economy, and fair legal system will obviously have significantly less violent crimes than a country that doesn't have those things. If you took a random man from the greenest pastures of Switzerland's suburbia. And a random man from the worst most impoverished cartel-dominated favellas of Brazil. Despite both being men... …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:31 PM
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https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence Millions of women in the United States have experienced rape. As of 1998, an estimated 17.7 million American women had been victims of attempted or completed rape. Young women are especially at risk. 82% of all juvenile victims are female. 90% of adult rape victims are female. Females ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault. Women ages 18-24 who are college stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:58 AM
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Yes. But not in this context. A man going on a date with a girl he's never met, is significantly less likely to be in danger or have reason to fear for his life. A woman going on a date with a guy she's never met, is very much taking a gamble with her safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:20 AM
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Women make up the majority victims of sexual, gender and domestic violence based crimes. 90% of rape and domestic violence victims are women. Men make up the majority of victims of general violence based crimes. 80% of all murder victims are men. When we look at statistics like these. What's very clear is that both groups are victims of violence in unique forms. And the numbers get even more skewed and dramatic when we get into queer communities such as gay or trans people who have historically …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:45 AM
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And what point exactly are you trying to make here? That if victims of violence are by the same gender, that makes it ok? Are they less deserving of sympathy? Where are you going with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:15 AM
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It's not a competition. I'm just calling you out for making such an ignorant comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:09 AM
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Considering that men make up the overwhelming majority of victims of violence based crimes. For you to assume they have zero worries about potentially being assaulted/killed is a shockingly ignorant comment. And that's not even the tip of the ice berg for young black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:04 AM
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It always cracks me how this sub discusses women like some wild legendary Pokemon. They endlessly debate over the most optimum strats on how to catch one. The behavioural patterns. The spawn locations. The types they're strongest and weakest against. What the success ratio is. And whenever a woman comes online, casually scrolling through while taking a shit, is taken aback by these crazy ass threads and comments silly this all is. The fellas get all riled up like travelling sailors in some old B…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:31 PM
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He even included selfies to prove it. Dude literally incriminated himself for a drop of clout. Fucken redditors man.
/r/seduction26/06/22 12:59 PM
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He deleted them.
/r/seduction26/06/22 12:23 PM
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Posting nudes of people online without consent is literally a federal crime. The burden of evidence is on you to prove that you gained consent because you're the one who chose to make those very private pictures public. Its your post which makes it your responsibility. If you can't prove that consent. Then you really shouldn't be posting people's nudes online for clout. As it stands. You're basically banking on the hope that none of these women will ever see this so they can report you.
/r/seduction26/06/22 08:15 AM
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You're the one who made the conscious decision to take explicit pictures of people and make them public. The burden is on you to figure out how to prove (without a shadow of doubt) that they're consensual. You alone put yourself in this position. So you'll need to figure out how to assuage accusations of revenge pr0n. Until then. Your post is sus af. Personally, I don't really understand why you even needed to post these.
/r/seduction26/06/22 07:52 AM
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Look man, let's put down the silly posturing for a bit and talk like human beings. You've just publicly posted what are incredibly explicit and intimate pictures of a bunch of women with literally no evidence to suggest that you've gained any form of consent from any of them to do so. One of the pics just straight up looks like you took a stealth pic of a girl getting dressed without her knowing. It doesn't even look like you censored it. It looks like you took the picture quickly before she saw…
/r/seduction26/06/22 07:35 AM
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"Hey I'm gonna take a picture of your naked body and share it on reddit, alongside other girls I've slept with, to use you as an example on how easy it is to get laid. That cool with you?" "Oh yeah totally, go for it".
/r/seduction26/06/22 06:29 AM
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Yeah I dont believe you at all. But I suppose it can't really be proven either way so.
/r/seduction26/06/22 06:20 AM
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Beautifully explained. I didn't even bother responding to some of the comments here because I feel the dudes in this thread are just deliberately trying to poke holes based on a really flawed (and insecure) mindset. "What if K leaves R?" "R is getting shafted!". "Most guys wouldn't go for a woman like K" These questions dont matter because that's not what's happened. They are nothing more than a bunch of "what if" scenarios, essentially catastrophizing and reducing what is obviously a healthy re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:59 PM
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I'm pretty sure R doesn't give a shit what most men's ideal woman is. R is happily engaged to and living with his ideal woman. And that's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:34 PM
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End up like R? You mean in a happy and loving long term relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:15 AM
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This reminds me of a story about a friend/roommate of mine from years ago, I'll call her K. So K had impossible standards. She was kinda average looking, but could be really attractive when all dressed and dolled up, but she'd have to really make an effort. K was the girl who embodied the 80/20 rule to the max. On tinder she would NEVER swipe on any guy unless they were a 9/10 MINIMUM. Guys who are hot af, shredded with abs, from that Giga Chad meme. Most of these guys would swipe her back for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:46 AM
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I've seen people think it was fine to not use protection because they weren't around much So based on that scenario, the n 20 person would have most likely done the same thing when they were still racking up their own body count, no? How many people do you know with n 20+ counts, that have a spotless sexual background? I'll use protection, the one who accepts it That doesn't change the fact that the more sexual partners you have, the more risks you take on across the board. And this is assuming …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:21 PM
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That's kinda the point. All you have is their n count and their word. You don't really know anything else about them nor the extent to which they could be lying to you. In the real world. Both of them are going to claim they use protection because that's just what people say to not look bad. Who do you think will be more likely to be telling the truth about practising safe sex? The 5 n count person? The 20 n count person? The answer should be obvious, but I feel like you're deliberately looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:28 PM
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I mean. You didn't answer the question but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:07 PM
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Sure. But in the real world if both those people approached you and both claimed to use protection and all you have is their word for it. Who are you more likely to believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 08:27 PM
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If a person has had casual unemotional sex with 20 people, they're less damaged than the same person with 2 abusive relationships True. But when you look purely at behaviours. The person with 20 unemotional sexual partners put themselves at much greater risk of potential abuse and got off incredibly lucky and unscathed. Whereas the person who had 2 abusive relationships was the opposite. They showed much greater reservations and commitment but were incredibly unlucky with their choice in partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:44 AM
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High n count 100% matters because it speaks to an individual's level of promiscuity and sexual (ir)responsibility, as well as how well they look after their physical and mental sexual health. As much as we want to (and should) celebrate sexual liberation, much like food, there are very real consequences to consuming it gluttonously. Likeliness of STD's Unwanted Pregnancies etc I also sincerely believe being sexually intimate with someone requires a great deal of trust and emotional vulnerability…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:29 AM
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having an android waifu and 50% of your retirement fund into NFTs is going to pacify the lower classes even more and make them die alone, in jail and in wars in greater numbers. That's kinda the point. Those men will have pretty much given up on chasing after real women/reproduction entirely. They will 100% die alone. With no legacy or offspring. Just a glorified sex toy that imitates the real thing. And that is going to cause some very real and rapid societal consequences. i.e. A population dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:27 PM
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Agreed. I consider myself a feminist and social optimist at heart, but I'm slowly becoming more and more black pilled seeing the way women and society egregiously undervalues the worth of average men like disposable pawns on a chess board. I've come to the realisation that the best outcome for the average man is to just "peace out" of society, and enjoy their futuristic android waifus. Sounds bleak, but it's a hell of a lot better than what exists now with millions of men dying alone and miserab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:33 AM
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Seriously. Capitalism and inflation is going to cause a severe population decline if the government doesn't quickly figure out better ways to incentivize people to have more babies. Right now, having a kid is just financial suicide. Millennials and Gen Z are rapidly accelerating to become one of the largest aging populations in human history right up there with Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:06 PM
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I'm responding to your analogy of the 100+ n count guy. I'm saying that that's not a good thing. A guy who's slept with 100+ partners is not someone any rational person would view as sexually responsible. Similarly, there's an inherent hypocrisy in how that same man seemingly expects that women have little to no ONS's, despite the fact that Mr 100+ will have most definitely partaken in numerous ONS's himself. And a woman who has had several sexual partners usually won’t be attracted to a man who…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:31 AM
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When a man has slept with over 100 women it doesn’t seem to matter to them much. Maybe I live in a vacuum of outdated thinking. But I don't personally consider this something to be proud of, man or woman. I sincerely think any human being that's slept with that many people (save for sex workers) definitely has a problem. They seem to just care that you don’t have a bunch of ONSs. You don't sleep with over 100 people without a sizeable portion of them being ONS. It's unlikely that these men had a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:49 AM
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Replace "robot", with sex workers and parasocial Internet personalities, and you'll realise that we're basically halfway there already. Unfortunately, loneliness is a very very lucrative market that's ripe for the taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:58 PM
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Not really, they are incarcerated at higher rates because they commit crimes at higher rates Men commit crimes at significantly higher rates than women, so I guess by your own logic, sounds like the legal system is just doing its job correctly. (let me know when you're ready to start using your thinking cap) If whites had a huge statistical discount on their sentences for the same crimes I would count that as evidence that blacks and hispanics are held to higher standards. You mean like this? th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:48 AM
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Men are punished more harshly by the criminal justice system, a fact you have tacitly accepted. Diminished punishment and greater leniency are things that children, or the feebleminded, receive So by your logic, black and latin people being legally punished and incarcerated at disproportionately higher rates than white people, is a testament to how much more "truly adult" they are? This is what I mean that your argument has become garbled gibberish. You're literally glorifying fucked up social i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:56 AM
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I'm sorry but your argument has devolved into incoherent and garbled gibberish I can't take seriously anymore. You went from arguing that women are treated like "children" on the basis of men (not) being allowed to punch them, to randomly weaponising mens rights issues as a cheap tactic to belittle women. Men and people of color being treated like disposable pieces of shit in society isn't a good thing nor is it some kind of testament to men's "responsibility" or "adulthood" that should in any w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:23 AM
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Not really. No, I'm not talking about a woman relinquishing her rights to parenthood. I'm talking about the actual consequences of giving birth. The average medical cost of delivering a child is $5k - 15k. I'm talking about the medical health risks + injuries + infections + maternal fatalities. You seem to be under the impression that actual child birth or abortion is this super smooth and harmless experience that doesn't financially, physically and emotionally scar people for life. Because you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 08:17 PM
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What are you talking about? Women face zero accountability when it comes to reproduction. So let me get this straight. If a woman gives birth. She's not accountable for that? And if she opts for an abortion (assuming it's legal where she lives), she's not accountable for that either? I just love how you're casually glossing over the financial and medical consequences of either option to spread your rhetoric. The maximally selfish line for the woman is a protected right Yes. That's how laws work.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:43 PM
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Nah I understood your point. I'm just amused at how you define "responsibility" through physical violence as the seemingly singular metric in which adulthood is apparently meant to be measured. Instead of bringing up things like child rearing , nurturing, reproductive/abortion rights, you know the things that society actually holds women accountable for. Or even how women make up 70-80% of health, support and teaching industries, fields in which women are responsible for the upbringing of produc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:27 PM
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Reproductive/abortion rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:03 PM
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So your definition of "responsibility" and being an "adult" boils down to whether or not women can take a punch like a man (and it being socially acceptable)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:51 PM
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Be that as it may, financial inequality in relationships is a dynamic that can and historically has been abused. If your partner makes 3-5x your salary + mortgage in their name. And you live with them. They have the power to swiftly destabilise your life should they terminate that relationship. We've all heard stories of people getting kicked out their homes by their partners and basically having to restart their entire lives over. So yes, a UMC 45 year old dating a broke 20 year old would 100% …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:27 PM
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I guess so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:54 PM
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I guess I just personally don't consider a 20 year old an "adult". Just a bigger slightly less immature kid. But still young and dumb. However, a 45 year old... Is a fully developed, fully functioning grown up. I would seriously question why they would be interested in someone who just stopped being a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:48 PM
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Not sure about the US, but in Russia a 16 y.o. is still at school. They live with their parents, who are still responsible for them. A 20 y.o. is at university, army or is already working. In the UK and America, the average age that people move out their parents house is 24-25. Very very few 20 year olds can afford to live on their own. And those that live in dorms, they're paid for by either student loans, the government or their parents. Sure, there's a huge difference between them and people …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:27 PM
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I feel like people seriously overestimate 20 year olds. Most 20 year olds are fucking stupid and barely have any life experience or anything of value in their name. At this stage of your life your biggest experiential difference is that you're in college and will have maybe worked a shitty job or 2. If you weren't already working at 16. Sure you'll probably have bigger tits, but that's it. In reality, you have no assets, no house, no investments. A vague sense of direction in life. Maybe a car (…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:07 PM
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... Are you.. are you seriously equating a 4 year age difference to straight up bestiality to make a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:45 PM
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Right. But where exactly in OP's post is it established that his gf intended to lead him on? Having a ONS =/= leading someone on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:18 PM
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Why are you trying to pretend as if men don't often deceptively lead women on to get sex. You're also posturing it as if women are wrong for calling it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:31 PM
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I think you're getting things mixed up. Women have always been cool with casual sex, one night stands, fwb etc etc The thing that women criticise men for is when they lead them on. Deceiving someone into believing that you're interested in a relationship with them when in actuality, you have no intention of seeing them again. That's what's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:01 PM
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Are you actually surprised at the fact that women have no strings attached one night stands?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:48 PM
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The problem isn't their biological urge to have sex all the time. That's completely normal and healthy. The problem is that some of these guys straight up place pussies on an impossible pedestal which dominates so much of their emotional well-being. By treating sex as a "reward" , right out the gate, they approach relationships with women with this fucked up dynamic in which they egregiously undervalue themselves in an extremely needy way. I feel bad for these guys because a lot of them are just…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:11 PM
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There's no strings attached or emotions involved. Easier to get your nut, forget and move on. However, because she ended up actually liking OP. It's now impossible to have sex with no strings attached. Emotions are involved now. If they have sex, it will be intimate. And if it turns out he was just a player, she would get hurt as a result. So she needed time to get to know him better and feel comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:32 PM
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You have an extremely unhealthy view of sex dude. Anyone who treats sex like some sort of coveted prize (whether man or woman) seriously needs to re-evaluate the kinds of relationships they pursuit. Ideally therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:20 PM
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Dude... She literally just met the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:02 PM
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OP stop trying to use "dude logic" to decipher this. Sex is not a "reward". Try to understand the subject from your gf's perspective. For girls, having no strings attached sex with someone you don't give a shit about, is a lot easier to mentally compartmentalise, forget and move on from. Compared to having sex with someone you have genuine attraction for. There's a lot more intimacy and if things don't workout, it often leaves people with quite a bit of emotional baggage. The more someone likes …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:18 PM
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Dude take a moment and process your thoughts and explain what you're trying to say a bit more clearly. You're responding with short and quick answers and random links without actually elaborating how any of it ties to your overall argument. It makes it very difficult to follow what you're trying to tell us. Your last comment literally said. Where do you think women and children came from. Grammatically, this reads as gibberish in the context of the thread. Did you in fact mean to say Where do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:46 PM
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What on earth are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:48 AM
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Ooft, you sure showed me. You dropped the gauntlet of all scholarly debates, I guess this means I have to leave now and go reflect on this truly enlightening conversation. Darn... Byyeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:37 PM
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Ma'am nobody asked nor cares what kind of relationship you're in. You're very clearly not comprehending anything people are saying. You're just responding back with random words. All that's being said is your argument is dumb and you haven't actually done anything to back up your points. But at this point... I give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:06 PM
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Either be ok with 2 income households. According to divorce statistics. You should be telling this to women. Not men. Can’t be a misogynist who wants some SAHW/sex slave when your salary is that of an average Joe Except this is a bullshit myth not supported by anything. I'm 100% willing to bet that you haven't ever interacted with or even met any man like this and you're just basing this off theories you saw in femcel circles. Most men would happily marry a rich wife who would allow him to be a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:48 PM
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I agree... But I'm not exactly sure what point are you actually making here? On the one hand, you're saying the solution to all these relationship/economic problems is a) Guys should get over their egos when their wives make more money. Despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of divorces are triggered by women. And. b) The alternative suggestion. Guys need to magically escape all economic obstacles and propel themselves into the top 3%. ??? Huh?? I think there's something dangerously pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:19 PM
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Ma'am. We're in a global pandemic that's literally destroyed millions if not billions of people's livelihoods, financial security and overall family stability. There's people right now who have been plunged from healthy middle class into poverty and irreparable debt for the rest of their lives due to forces beyond their control. Regardless of whether you have a penis or a vagina. We're currently experiencing one of the worst economic bubbles in generations thats affecting everyone You casually a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:01 PM
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If they had standards, they wouldn't be so eager to fuck on the first date. The bitter truth is, they can't get laid, so they bitch and moan on subs like this. Anyway, sounds like I've clearly hit a nerve so peace out bro. Good luck with the pussy pursuit ✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:37 AM
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Explain in detail why, a guy should be patient and wait for sex with a girl who has a promiscuous past? Its entirely up to every individual to decide this shit for themselves. i.e. When they're ready. How long should he be expected to (wait)? At least 6 seasons and a movie. /s Why should he not just realize, she's just not that into me? How do you actually know she's not into you? Did you ask her? Fucking on the first night is not a prerequisite for attraction. Especially if its a promiscuous pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:27 AM

This has nothing to do with "consistency" . And everything to do with insecurities. Men that say shit like this have spent far too much time in terrible circles which have made them morbidly insecure about their masculinity and them being viewed as "beta" compared to other men. So they deflect and project these frustrations and insecurities onto women, making it the woman's responsibility to validate their insecurities and pseudo alpha complex through sex ultimatums. "Sleep with me. You fucked C…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:54 AM
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the stupid taboo and shame surrounding hook ups that's unfairly handed out to women is a huge factor The taboo is silly yes. But it doesn't exist in a vacuum because there are very very real risks involved in hook up culture, and a great deal of unspoken trust, goodwill and discretion is required for any girl to truly feel safe and comfortable committing to it. Think about the amount of potential implications that a girl is subjecting herself to by willfully sleeping with a total stranger she ba…
/r/seduction01/08/21 11:40 AM
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Oh absolutely. The funny thing is it always bewilders our other guy friends why they basically fail where Dave succeeds. These guys convinced themselves they're hot shit, and when girls don't fall for it, they get frustrated and start blaming women for having high standards. Meanwhile Dave out here being a goofball and batting home runs. A lot of the guys on this sub could learn a lot from that.
/r/seduction01/08/21 09:34 AM
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(which you can’t plan for or try to make happen). It’s just there or it isn’t. Lol this reminds me of this one dude back at my old job. I had this guy friend, Dave, who had a ridiculous hook up body count (I think 50s). Nearly every other night we grabbed drinks after work, he would damn near consistently take a girl home. Whether from some bar or a girl he invited from tinder. He's not the most attractive guy. In fact he's 5'8, has a crooked nose (from boxing), and can't grow a full beard. In s…
/r/seduction01/08/21 08:47 AM
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Kudos. This comment alone would shut down half the shit tier arguments in this sub if people like OP actually wanted a genuine discussion and learn anything. But unfortunately, as its become increasingly obvious. PPD isn't a place for critical discussions about dating and gender dynamics. Its just a blogspace for men to rant about how they can't get sex, and use warped logic to rationalise their own dating failures and blame women for it. I'm sure there are some valid points here and there. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:50 AM
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No we're not in agreement. Emotional availability means being mature enough to sensibly communicate your emotions while being respectfully considerate of the other person. What you DONT do is offload all your repressed emotional trauma and baggage at the first utterance just because someone shows interest. Both men and women are guilty of this. But men are severely inept at in a way that is quite dumbfounding. And the reason is cause men are more emotionally repressed (due to societal pressure o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:59 PM
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Because she's not the one making the sweeping statements. You are. Therefore the burden of evidence is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:25 AM
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I know the Olympics have already kicked off. But I would really love to nominate and sponsor you a late registration entry, for the Mental Gymnastics portion. To be able to take the topic of dating and taking accountability for your own shortcomings. And to manage to flip it into a charged debate about right wing politics, is some prodigious talent right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:44 PM
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You sound like right wingers talking about poor people. “It’s really there own fault and if they just tried it would be fine! We're talking about dating culture. Not politics and socio-economic issues. The fact that you have to create such a warped parallel to express your point tells me you have a very unhealthy and distorted mindset when it comes to dating. I get that that is emotionally easier; this way you don’t have to have any empathy. Reality check. I don't owe you any empathy or understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:04 PM
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Nothing in life is "guaranteed". But you're guaranteed failure when you don't even try. If more of the men that complain woe is me all day long actually put in effort, they will significantly improve their odds of success in dating as with any avenue of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:57 AM
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There's a difference between men judging women's appearance for the purpose of fucking them, and the purpose of actually dating them long term. Men's sexual standards are not particularly high because there's no commitment involved. But their relationship standards are extremely critical of women's appearances AND their personality. Most guys will fuck the fat girl. But very few are willing to actually put a ring on her finger. That's the sad reality. Luckily for the fat girl, she has the choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:44 AM
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The problem is what a lot of people call "ugly" in reality is just poor hygiene and zero grooming. Most men would significantly elevate their physical attractiveness if they were just willing to put in the time and effort to take better care of themselves, eat properly, exercise, style their hair neatly, and get a better wardrobe beyond just a collection of Rick & Morty shirts and the jeans they've had since college. Unfortunately most men are also incredibly stubborn and are addicted to the "st…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:20 AM
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I dunno dude. It just sounds like you wanna fuck Matt Bomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:11 PM
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I definitely agree with you. That chart just looks ridiculous imo. The problem is that its so absurdly one sided towards favouring 1 specific Western-centric "look" of guys that look like a cross between the Giga-Chad meme and Handsome Squid ward, with the bone structure of a Picasso painting. They're handsome yes, but the handsomness is overblown to an extreme degree here. I can only speak for myself here but I genuinely think a lot of the guys in the 9.0 - 9.5 range look like human caricatures…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:04 PM
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Marriage is literally a financial institution. The entire practice exists for no other reason than to combine household incomes and build families whose offspring will carry a legacy and become productive members of society. OP's question is clearly oriented around asking WHY should women (or anyone really) get married if there's no ultimate financial benefit for them to do so. And the answer boils down to the simple fact that there is no logical reason for marriage outside of the financial and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:24 PM
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Younger girls will always date older guys because of the illusion of success and life experience. Older guys will date younger women because they're significantly more attractive and far more complicit to the power dynamic. Men reach their "peak" in their late 30s, 40s and early 50s. This is where they are most stable, experienced, and have progressed far into their life and careers, have a home, have savings, ready for family etc. Women reach their "peak" in their mid 20s, early 30s. This is wh…
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:53 AM
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they need to feel emotionally connected to a partner to have sex with them, even if it's for one night. The real reason women don't use sex workers is because DICK IS FREE. That's all there is to it. There's virtually no market need for them to pay men for sex, when they have guys in their inboxes offering them free dinners. Can we please stop with this bullshit narrative. Women enjoy casual sex. Sure they're not as promiscuous as men, but that's less about needing an emotional connection, and m…
/r/seduction25/03/21 01:14 PM
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This is such a childish and broad generalisation of how women's psychology/biology works. All women are different and have varying degrees of "emotional needs". The women I've had casual sex with didn't give a shit about "spreading/selecting seed" or whatever the hell these regressive mammalistic archetypes come from. Their concern was literally whether or not I'd be a decent and fun guy who would respect her boundaries and meet her sexual needs or if I'd turn out to be a fucking creep. This car…
/r/seduction25/03/21 12:50 PM
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If that's the case, therein lies the hypocrisy because then why don't more women use sex workers for casual sex? Instead of placing the impetus on men on dating apps to meet their needs? Women also enjoy casual sex (they're just more selective for social and safety reasons). I've slept with women who legitimately just wanted me for one night stands who had zero interest in pursuing anything serious, due to their own personal circumstances. And that was totally cool. As long as everyone is honest…
/r/seduction25/03/21 09:27 AM
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Assuming you are talking about a dinner date, this might be the thread that makes me realize half of these people have no clue. There's your problem right there. A dinner date is a terrible idea for a first date anyway. Its far too formal and adds too much pressure regardless of seating order. The first date has to be light hearted and casual so both parties can relax and get to know each other without any pretense to maintain the absolute highest level of etiquette. You are literally going to b…
/r/seduction18/02/21 04:22 PM
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There are a metric boatload of people I would never date simply based off their looks. I think there's a big difference between having subjective standards unique to yourself as an individual, and when a society in general clearly has a racial prejudice when it comes to dating. One is informed by your own individual tastes. The other is based on some incredibly dangerous and negative depictions and stereotypes of ethnic minorities which can absolutely be detrimental both dating and career wise. …
/r/seduction14/01/21 06:46 PM
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No I got the point. I just don't necessarily agree that the mantra "being yourself" is necessarily helpful advice. Obviously the advice is telling people to be more authentic and honest. But it doesn't really work if the person receiving is actually a complete fuck head living a self-destructive lifestyle. Telling someone to be themselves when them being themselves is the problem, is where the whole mantra falls apart. Especially since that's not really the message the book Models is trying to c…
/r/seduction03/11/20 05:00 AM
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I've read Models, and even Mark himself makes this same jokeful observation that physically attractive people tend to unwittingly give pretty shallow advice unaware that their own success is steeped heavily in external factors like their appearance. It comes across as them just being blissfully ignorant if not a little patronising. Obviously looks are not the be all end all, and the advice isn't without some degree of merit. But to tell someone the advice "just be yourself" often fails due to be…
/r/seduction03/11/20 03:28 AM
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This is the correct mindset to have. Do the best with what you've got. Aim for the best possible outcome with the cards you've been given. That being said. There's no harm in light hearted memes from time to time haha. But sometimes the guys here do take things pretty personal and letting their emotions and frustration run rampant.
/r/seduction23/08/20 09:25 PM
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It’s saying the only thing women care about is money. Which is wrong and sexist. No. The meme is saying that women care more about a guys wealth than his hairstyle. The punchline is specifically making fun of the fact that men's hairstyles (or other superficial qualities) are entirely arbitrary and negligible when compared to their overall wealth, status and success. Hence the purpose of the 2 images portraying the exact same guy. The meme is NOT saying women only care about money. Let alone is …
/r/seduction23/08/20 09:13 PM
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More like a mountain of truth. I don't think its in anyway reaching or pushing a narrative to say that when presented with 2 equally identical options. The one who is presented as wealthier and more successful is the one who is going to be considerd objectively more attractive by comparison. Unless you have like a poverty fetish or something.
/r/seduction23/08/20 01:20 PM
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Bro. As one black dude to another. Lemme tell you. You gotta relax and not put so much pressure on yourself. Society, modern cultures and family already put enough pressure on us as is. Compared to me, you're genetically blessed my man. You would make me look like a toddler. You've slept with 6 girls. That's WAAAAY more successful for a 20 year old than most average people. Bro. I've got friends in their 30s who have a far less body count than that. When I was your age, I had only slept with 1 w…
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:45 AM
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Lol that is one incredibly polite assessment of r/FemaleDatingStrategy. I love that sub and lurk it every now and then to watch and learn. It's mostly memes, women heavily venting their frustrations with failed relationships with strong misandric overtones and the occasional covert 4chan troll just fucking around and playing along. I think maybe like 30% of it seems to be actual constructive dating advice. With the remaining 70% being incredibly self-destructive behaviours and impossibly high st…
/r/seduction06/02/20 04:31 AM
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It really doesn't matter as much as you think it does. That's your ego talking cause it's attached to the idea that attractiveness is what makes or breaks your chances with attractive women. That kind of thinking is what's gonna stunt your improvement. I'm average looking, average shape, 5'6, have a gap tooth in my two front teeth, have a fucked up hairline (need to cut my hair every 2 weeks), and have mild acne. Im black and live in a heavily white country where girls have flat out rejected me …
/r/seduction12/12/19 08:10 PM
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I think it depends on how socially dynamic and attuned you are in your own presence. Most people struggle immensely with this and cannot function unless a part of a group. Similarly this is something I've been teaching myself to overcome this past year. I've gone out a couple of times solo, not with the objective of successfully picking up anyone (that would be a bonus), but with the simple goal of having a great time and mingling with groups of people when possible. The first time it was extrem…
/r/seduction12/12/19 07:53 AM
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why does this matter?
/r/seduction12/12/19 07:23 AM
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Excellent write up OP. This post cuts right through the heart of the most toxic bullshit of PUA culture. And why so many people here waste their whole lives trying to fill an indelible hole in their heart caused by some childhood experience. The real reason most of us are here is because at some point of our lives we lost sight of who we were, we got uncomfortable with the people we became, and we've been socially conditioned to pursue this idea from birth, that the true measure of our worth com…
/r/seduction07/12/19 11:24 AM
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I keep seeing people in this sub hate on emojis and discourage others from using them and I genuinely wonder what kinds of women these guys speak to. Emojis are some of the best thing to happen to text game. They add so much tone and subtext which is crucial for texting women. Women have a tendency to overanalyse texts and can easily misinterpret the conversation. When you jokingly message a woman "Fuck off", it reads off as cold and rude. But when you message "Fuck off 😂😂" it adds a more upbeat…
/r/seduction24/11/19 02:59 PM
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Lol no problem buddy. Most of what I wrote you can find on popular videos like Todd V on YouTube. But honestly, experience is the greatest teacher.
/r/seduction26/10/19 09:53 PM
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I'm gonna be honest, I've literally never ever hooked up with a girl on tinder the same night I started talking to her. Every girl I got their number and snap and arranged a future hook up a few days later. To hook up with a girl the same night as the opener is borderline impossible unless the girl is horny af and has literally zero regard for her own safety. Basically you're looking at like the sheer 1% of girls who would ever do that. Without first screening you, it's a massive safety risk for…
/r/seduction26/10/19 07:10 PM
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Lmao no. Don't EVER be forward on tinder. Every girl on tinder will be receiving 10s of 100s of messages from guys being forward as all hell and pretty much failing. Girls on tinder will have their Fuccboi Radar on overdrive. Being too forward is practically self-sabotage and will only really work if the girl is already DTF in which case, your game will have very little influence on that besides fucking it up. As a golden rule of thumb, always remember that girls on tinder know exactly why you'r…
/r/seduction26/10/19 06:15 PM
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That really depends on you my dude and what stage of your life you're currently at. Personally I don't see why you can't take lessons out of both. The more communities you engage with, the better. You learn from a multitude of different perspectives which is a really important thing as you are a complex multifaceted human being. Whether it's r/Seduction, r/Self-acceptance, r/HowToNotGiveAFuck, r/DecidingToBeBetter, r/Self-improvement, r/Fashion, r/Food, r/AmITheAsshole or r/Fitness Every communi…
/r/seduction27/07/19 10:18 AM
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I view this sub the same way I view martial arts dojos. You come here as a lost frustrated soul wanting to get laid and use the PUA tips as your easy access into girls pants. You train your social skills and overcome your approach anxiety when talking to strangers. Build confidence and charisma. Buy fancy clothes, hit the gym and get shredded. But what you end up realising is that those things dont matter at all, and that you are far more deserving of unconditional love than you ever realised, a…
/r/seduction26/07/19 10:40 PM
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That's awesome man. It sounds like you really confronted your demons head on and that's fucking rad. At the end of the day, the hardest thing you can ever do is learn to love and appreciate yourself. And a lot of that growth definitely came from you developing and appreciating the person you are inside. The outside appearance merely followed suite. Like the old saying goes, "It's the man that makes the clothes", and not the other way around. I also used to be quite a fat kid in high school and g…
/r/seduction13/06/19 06:43 PM
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Guys who are better looking naturally develop game. Its like being born a child star. You think everything you touch is gold, and many people just believe it. Maybe on something like Tinder. But this is absolutely not the case in the real world. I know plenty of very attractive people both guys and girls with the personalities of a wooden plank and the self-confidence of a squirrel. They absolutely don't have any semblance of game. Looks are a cheat code that allow the individual to not have to …
/r/seduction13/06/19 10:06 AM
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Because whether or not people like to hear it, dating culture is heavily influenced by Western centric beauty standards and a history of racism. OK Cupid has released data which illustrates what each race of people are most/least attracted to. People can try and justify and defend themselves with personal anecdotes, but at the end of the day numbers don't lie and they reflect the larger problem with racial preferences in dating. https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f…
/r/seduction09/06/19 02:04 AM
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I know you like this girl, but try to avoid being a victim of Oneitis syndrome. Just send a simple funny text, and if she doesn't respond. That's your answer. Just leave it and move on. You've lost nothing. One super important piece of advice I wish someone gave me before I started college is to remember to have standards. Girls come and go. Some will treat you will amazingly, others will treat you like shit. We're ultimately just a bunch of organisms on a giant flying rock hurdling through spac…
/r/seduction06/06/19 08:03 PM
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Fair enough. Personally, next time i see her, I would just walk to her in person and "say what's up" - "it's been a while" - "hope you didn't miss me too much" "let's catch up" etc. Pretend that snap you sent her never happened and just be casual and cool and talk to her. If theres no other way, then send her a funny snap. If she doesn't respond to it. Then I would take it as a sign that she's not interested and move on.
/r/seduction06/06/19 05:56 PM
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Definitely don't confess to her before you've re-established some kind of rapport. It will completely blind side her and drop an immense amount of pressure on any kind of relationship you hope to have with her. If you really like this girl. Then I recommend you start from the beginning and try to reconnect with her as a person and understand where her heads at in terms of dating. For all you know, she could probably still be emotionally hung up on that guy she was seeing previously. And you may …
/r/seduction06/06/19 05:28 PM
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I want you to do me a favour and reread the above comment thread so you understand the actual conversation here. The first commenter made a statement on how if the gender roles were reversed, there would be calamity if a guy were to just randomly grab a girls phone and add his number onto it. The second commenter then pointed out that it is indeed possible for guys to do so, as long as they are respectful. And then I, the 3rd commenter added on in agreement, that even the girls in OP's post put …
/r/seduction26/05/19 04:29 PM
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Absolutely. Even the girls in OP's post clearly put thought and consideration into the context. OP was obviously eyeing her and paid enough attention to them. They knew OP was listening to their loud convo and was at least somewhat interested in her. So she approached him and made a pretty ballsy move. By giving OP the number, it puts the ball in his court to decide whether to act on it or not while also allowing her to save face without being blatantly rejected. It may seem like the girl was ju…
/r/seduction26/05/19 07:41 AM
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Texting should be for nothing more than setting plans, dates and logistics. Otherwise if you don't get to the point. Conversation will drag on. It will be boring. What most guys struggle with in texting is structure. Know where you are in the interaction, and know what direction it needs to go to progress. You need to avoid small talk and long drawn out meaningless conversations at all cost. "where are you from?" "what do you do?" "what music do you like?" Blah blah blah. These topics don't matt…
/r/seduction12/05/19 08:24 PM
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Most important thing when it comes to texting is structure. Know where you are in the interaction, and know what direction it needs to go to progress. Avoid small talk and long drawn out meaningless conversations at all cost. "where are you from?" "what do you do?" "what music do you like?" Blah blah blah. Avoid these kinds of conversations. They don't matter and will kill your conversations. Save them for talking in person. The idea is to get to the point and get the girl off the phone ASAP. Te…
/r/seduction11/05/19 11:03 PM
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Jesus christ.
/r/seduction11/05/19 12:44 PM
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Bingo. Girls are shockingly critical/protective of each other. It's basically a shit test minefield. The only way to win is to gain the acceptance of the whole group of girls and get them to like you, which will make OP's girl feel more comfortable knowing that you have acquired the social proof. Only other option is to not participate in the girl group interactions at all. But under no circumstances ever do you try to isolate the girl or single her out to try and game her in front of that group…
/r/seduction11/05/19 12:24 PM
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No no no no. That's not what Low Value Behaviour is. Low Value Behaviour isn't just a set of needy actions. It's also about the context in which those actions are done. If Arcade Guy had done the whole printed tickets thing on the 1st or 2nd date. That would have 100% been super needy low value try-hard behaviour because the girl would have had no reason to qualify or comply to his frame. But this was date number 3. Meaning he had already 2 full interactions with this girl. And asper the classic…
/r/seduction11/05/19 09:13 AM
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No offense. But you're needlessly over thinking things. Let's reiterate. OP agrees to 3rd date = She likes him Arcade Guy invites her to basement "for some fun" and she agrees = She wants to fuck Arcade Guy surprises her with unique date which she loves = She had a good time OP posts on reddit praising date but says there was no spark = He didn't make a move What went wrong has nothing to do with how much effort or investment or any of that irrelevant BS. It was the 3rd date and both parties wer…
/r/seduction10/05/19 06:55 PM
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Yup. This is the correct answer. Dude failed to sexually escalate and close. He had her, but fucked it up.
/r/seduction10/05/19 05:04 PM
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Here's the funny thing. It sounds to me like she was down with him but he fucked it up. She went on a 3rd date with him, he invited her over to his house for "some fun" and she came through. She could not have made it any more obvious that she was interested in the guy and was 100% dtf. Nobody wasted their time and goes on a 3rd date with someone unless they see massive potential. Hell, I have used Tinder a lot, and have gone on a ton of dates, many successful, others not. But I have never ever …
/r/seduction10/05/19 04:56 PM
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Imo I don't think the date is the problem. If anything, the problem was the guy's inability to escalate, not the date. It sounds to me like the guy was a very friendly, sweet and all round nice person with a unique hobby. The OP came over to his house because he was clearly a decent dude and made her feel comfortable and was ready for things to escalate. But he did not seem to try and sexualise the interaction between or be flirty. In the end, the total lack of flirting made their interaction pl…
/r/seduction10/05/19 04:42 PM
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This is always the inevitable outcome of a FWB situation. These kinds of arrangements are not sustainable long term. Either you go your separate ways or acknowledge that she wants a relationship and give it a fair shot. Nobody in this sub can tell you what decisions to make as its entirely up to how you feel about this girl and if it's worth it to you in end to pursue something or to move on. But what I can advise you on is to be respectful of her feelings. Which is to say, remember that she's a…
/r/seduction05/05/19 05:22 PM
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Been in your exact position. Post break up clubbing. Have had both hugely positive and negative results. So here's some quick tips I wish I had. Dress really fucking good. Flaunt and peacock to the point that girls will 100% look at and compliment you. Be bold and wear something that will make you stand out in a good way. Usually something cool, breathable + a necklace/chain. Wear a good cologne and spray it especially around your neck and behind your ear. Do all the interactions as early as pos…
/r/seduction04/05/19 08:05 PM
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I totally know where you're coming from cause this is something I've struggled with in the last. What I can tell you is you're doing an excellent job at establishing confidence. But what's happening is the girls aren't quite comfortable and relaxed with you yet. Girls tend to avoid eye contact cause they may be a little flustered in the moment. At that stage, you need to take action to lead her and make her feel comfortable while still maintaining that confidence and eye contact. The best way to…
/r/seduction28/04/19 11:32 AM
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Pretty much what u/Jermaul_m_w said. It always amazes me how so many guys are willing to put up with stuff like this just to maybe get laid...? Have some self-respect dude. Because look at it this way. Even if you had some kind of God tier game and managed to make her interested in you. Do you seriously want to invest time and energy into someone who is this much of a brazen asshole that they can so casually make dismissive and disrespectful remarks to your face like that? Cmon dude. Theres no "…
/r/seduction27/04/19 06:14 PM
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Please say it louder for the people in the back. Looks only matter on dating sites like Tinder purely because that's mostly what people will see. But IRL as long as you have decent dress sense, good hygiene, and regularly groom yourself. Looks will not make or break an interaction. Yes, a super attractive 6ft10 Chad McThundercock will definitely have some level of an advantage in the initial opening. But eventually your personality is gonna be revealed and at that point, if you're a weird awkwar…
/r/seduction25/04/19 05:28 PM
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Yeah. That's cool. A simple opener like "Whaddup dawg" and find out what's her schedule like. Though if I were you, I wouldn't suggest the show unless she indicates actual interest with positive responses. Basically, get her into a conversation first, then find out if she's available, then and only if she's actually engaging with you positively, go ahead and close, by suggesting she comes with you to the show. Take it step by step to gauge her interest before you close. At the end of the day, yo…
/r/seduction17/04/19 06:18 PM
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Depends on the girl. Nowadays some girls legit freak out over a phone call. But in my opinion, they're great at building comfort and focuses attention on the interaction. What you want is to avoid looking needy or desperate. So before you call, get her into a texting conversation first, then when you can see she's typing and you know she's 100% on her phone, give her a call. If she doesn't answer it, then she's the one being weird about it and not you. If she answers and you chat, then awesome. …
/r/seduction17/04/19 11:26 AM
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Few things. Abundance mentality my guy. Don't sweat over 1 girl taking a while to respond. Just talk to other girls and set up plans with them or better yet, just carry on with your own life and your own personal stuff. You really don't wanna be waiting on the phone for a girl you barely know to show some kind of approval. It's needy behaviour. Which will definitely ruin things. Secondly. You need to be more straight to the point and less wishy washy and waiting for her to give you the "GO" sign…
/r/seduction17/04/19 08:05 AM
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Technically he had sex with like 9 other women, including his sons teacher, and when his ex wife finds out, she's devastated and feels a similar crushing betrayal, but has no right to reprimand him because of what she did. So in a way, they were kinda square. If we exclude the whole him moving out thing. While I understand why people would definitely feel strongly against getting back with a cheating ex wife, the message is definitely not for everyone. However, I think the film does a very good …
/r/seduction21/03/19 11:08 PM
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Lol I think it's more that they're not used to being approached by guys + terrible battered self-esteem. Resulting in an awkward instinctive reflex to shut down the approach cause its an interaction they're not familiar with. Assuming the worst about someone who is interested in you, is basically a defence mechanism for people with poor self-esteem. Kinda similar to how when guys don't believe it when a hot girl compliments or shows interest and their immediate instinct is to assume she's just p…
/r/seduction20/03/19 07:08 AM
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The good news is, these are problems that mostly exist in the 20s age group dating scene. Everyone is still learning who they are and what they like, guys happlessly approach and tolerate every semi attractive girl that so much as looks at them because they don't have enough self-esteem to say, "actually, I can do way better than you". As long as they get laid, they will put up with Stacey's cardboard personality. And on the other end, youve got inexperienced girls with overly romanticised views…
/r/seduction06/02/19 11:48 PM
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