Marthman Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
5	What is TRP's opinion on "Cruel Hoax: Feminism and the New World Order" by, Henry Makow?		Marthman	/r/TheRedPill	30/10/14 03:06 AM

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1	Special Snowflakes I absolutely could not care less about who archwinger is. And could you possibly sound like you're part of a cult any more than you do now?	/r/TheRedPill	04/02/15 06:05 AM
-6	Special Snowflakes And hypersensitive. Wow. You do realize that "impotent" doesn't necessarily refer to sex, right? Although, I guess i shouldn't be exactly surprised that you'd automatically assume I was questioning your "sexual prowess" via "hate speech" (fucking LOL- hyperbole is one of your strong suits, isn't it?), given the insular mindset focused on sexual achievement prominent in this sub,.	/r/TheRedPill	04/02/15 01:43 AM
-8	Special Snowflakes Sarcasm: tone of the weak and impotent.	/r/TheRedPill	04/02/15 12:13 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible Definitely not worked up. I'm just growing tired of repeating myself. Well, you explicitly brought it up. People can commune every way they want. The point is not every community has to be all inclusive. On rational bases. Sure. What is your rational basis for your non-inclusiveness? If you discriminate on some irrational level, that's when it becomes a problem of bigotry. So go ahead, I'm listening. This should be obvious. I couldn't care less looks like you finally got that phrasing down. good…	/r/TheRedPill	06/01/15 10:48 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible I think you just come here to disagree with people and troll them. You love seeing people get worked up. Are you worked up or something? That certainly wasn't my intent when I posted my initial post, nor was it my intent at any point during our exchange. You make assertions that you surely know are ridiculous such as saying TRP should be all inclusive Why is it ridiculous to assert that all men, i.e. males and females who identify within the power structure of human relations as the dominant, sh…	/r/TheRedPill	06/01/15 08:50 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible Hypergamy is one. Men do not tend to date "up" they tend to date "out", and whilst some might claim this is the same, it's not. Men on the whole do not care as much about the status of their mate as long as they are above a certain level, they instead try to obtain as many such mates as possible. Women will, in the absence of preventative circumstances, tend to "branch swing" to a higher value mate without retaining the old one. First, let me state that we are going to operate with your definiti…	/r/TheRedPill	06/01/15 05:19 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible There is nothing to concede. You have your point of view as do I. I tried to at least convey what the other view was but you're not interested in that are you? You're only interested in displaying your self-aggrandized view of intellectual superiority. I find it funny that you think that you can speak for me. Of course I am interested in hearing the other side. When I am welcomed to debate TRP in general -because apparently TRP's philosophy is based in logic and evidence- and a user steps up to …	/r/TheRedPill	06/01/15 05:02 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible You call it strawmanning I call it moving the goal posts. Do you even understand what I'm saying to you? Do you even understand what you're talking about? If I'm to understand your sentence properly, in that "it" refers to the same thing in both your uses of it in your quote, you're saying that you yourself are engaging in the logical fallacy of moving the goal posts. I said you're strawmanning. You say "no, what you call strawmanning is what I call moving the goal posts." You do realize that th…	/r/TheRedPill	04/01/15 04:54 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible You're missing two key points still. I will try to be concise to prevent any obfuscation. As I've said before, we've completely gone off on a separate tangent that isn't really necessary, and has almost nothing to do with what I originally posted. When you post shit like this: You continually decry the idea of anecdotal evidence yet you fail to realize three things You're setting a strawman up of my argument. I made one comment that said that if I were to make particular conclusions, I'd rather …	/r/TheRedPill	04/01/15 03:31 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible Sure there are plenty morons in this sub spouting useless bullshit. Agreed. But the core ideology - at least my own ideology (I could care less about the sub's purported ideology) does not include such things. Would you care to espouse what you're speaking of? Any hivemind groupthink is prone to devolve into mediocrity. That's why I've been stressing this concept of thinking for yourself. I'm going to assume that the latter sentence is not in reference to our conversations, but rather, in genera…	/r/TheRedPill	03/01/15 08:08 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible You miss the point. There is no way to quantify the evidence we have. Thus we must fall back on our own brains and experience. Shuddering thought apparently - that we should rely so heavily on ourselves to understand things. At this point in the conversation, I must note that we've deviated quite a bit from my original point, which we will get to in the next paragraph. If you wish to say that TRP is anything but subjective musings, then it can't be what you've just said it is. And if TRP is just…	/r/TheRedPill	03/01/15 07:53 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible Dude, you are still not getting it. Most people here, myself included, dont care about scientifically verifying any of this. That's really not the point. I understand where you're coming from. Let me be charitable and explain: There is certainly wisdom to be found on these forums. I am not denying that. You can see certain things that are explained here as being correspondent to reality, IoW there is truth to be found here. I am not saying that you necessarily must "scientifically verify" TRP, a…	/r/TheRedPill	03/01/15 07:26 AM
30	Bill Burr vs Philadelphia: Holding frame to an entire city. Bill Burr is one of the best modern comedians we have; and he's also a great example of someone who is both in the public eye, but has the ballsack to exude Red Pill. If you haven't seen his new special, you can catch it on netflix. Fucking hilarious the whole way through. So very rare for me to 5 star stand-up specials on Netflix, but this guy owned it.	/r/TheRedPill	03/01/15 06:53 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible I thank you for the gentlemanly discourse. That, one should hope, ought to be the prominent ethos of what is essentially an intellectual men's club. Happy new year.	/r/TheRedPill	03/01/15 06:26 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible The superiority complex is implicit. When I say, "if the horses didn't allow elephants to engage in rational discourse with the horses" I mean that sayings like NAWALT imply that no matter what a female does, she is always rationalizing her actions and behaviors, and thus can not be trusted as a contributive member to the forum. These are hardly rambling, and while I have not provided any specific evidence, if you don't see this behavior in this sub, or at least infer that this is how TRP males …	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 07:22 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible Would you agree the default is that a man take on a masculine role and a woman take on a feminine role? I wish not to make this difficult for you by engaging in semantics or sophistry. While I find "default" not to be the best word (as it seems to imply abnormality if not the default), I will charitably interpret you as meaning that there is a certain correlation of man-behavior to males and woman-behavior to females, as I've previously stated in another post. Secondly, there are certain subject…	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 07:15 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible I will be getting to your other posts in the morning. In the meantime, I will answer this post. Not only is this absolutely false but you've devolved this discussion into one of semantics which is particularly abhorrent. First off, with what justification can you say that philosophy and science are not inextricable? Because surely, science goes hand in hand with philosophy of science, and the whole theoretical component of science (as in, creating a falsifiable theory that metaphorically "skewer…	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 07:01 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible My logic is that if there are less alphas, there will be less competition for me. Surely. If there are less woman here, the redpill will be more male oriented. Why is this important if being a male has nothing to do with accepting TRP truths? Of course, if you're using my definitions, then yes, of course, women shouldn't be here, but that would also include males who take on the gender role of women. But if this is the case, then females who are men should be able to participate here freely, as …	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 06:41 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible Certainly I did not say males should/shouldn't act in a particular way so I suppose to ascribe "you" to mean the sub as a whole. That is correct, I am not personally trying to attack you. Thank you for charitably interpreting my choice of words. Whether a man wants to take on the traditional female role is totally up to his prerogative. And I'd venture to guess given the current state of social affairs men will increasingly chose to do so. By that last sentence you mean, given that we've assente…	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 06:28 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible There is no such thing as objective philosophy in my view that would be the dividing line between science and philosophy. Although now we are delving into the realm of existentialism. Even if you wish not to call this a philosophy in general -as TRP is purported to specifically be a science, and empirically based- your findings still must be objective. That is, it must include all facets of the picture, and not ignore the unsightly portions that would discredit your theories. IoW, if your observ…	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 06:06 AM
0	Red Pill is not the bible Does it really take pages and pages of writing to explain that? Is there something wrong with that? Nope, and nope, but if you're asking those questions, you're missing the point. The point is that if your philosophy can not be an objective philosophy for all persons, then it is subjective and based on emotion, which is exactly the type of philosophy I'd rather turn away from, as I prefer something based in, well, logic and evidence.	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 05:05 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible Then the philosophy is invalidated, subjective, and based on your emotions, rather than logic and reason. An objective philosophy can not work for only a small subset of people, it must describe the full picture.	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 05:04 AM
2	Red Pill is not the bible Certainly; and I'd say it wasn't difficult to infer that. The problem comes when you say males shouldn't act a certain way. Is there something wrong with a male taking the woman's role in a heterosexual relationship? If you are about to provide anecdotal evidence as to why a male shouldn't put himself in this position, I'll ask you one question: How sure are you that you aren't just falling prey to confirmation bias and the texas sharpshooter fallacy?	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 05:02 AM
3	Red Pill is not the bible Men and woman do use almost entirely different sexual strategy. That is mostly what this sub is dedicated to. And they do tend to love differently. Certainly. Hence my staying subbed to TRP. I am a male, and I definitely see the merit in this philosophy. I just think that some particular things need to be shown or sussed out that will allow for better relations with females, rather than allowing ourselves to be demonized and not care about it. In other words, we need to have better public relati…	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 04:25 AM
2	Red Pill is not the bible While TRP doesn't focus on hamstering in males, I haven't noticed anyone here suggest it to be impossible, either. Very true. My point is that there is a deemphasis on that point, and an emphasis on females being the culprit of such behavior. And that is surely promoting an us vs them attitude, even if the person who is making such an observation did not mean to imply that. IoW, the boys who are learning how to become men here are making false inferences that jeopardize their relations with the …	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 04:16 AM
1	Red Pill is not the bible And while that may be true, can you name any of the other behaviors attributed to women in this sub, that can't be found in men? I doubt it. And that's the problem. The objection to "NAWALT" completely loses its power if what I'm pointing out is the case, because then "woman" just comes to mean anybody who finds her/himself in the "less power" role in the power structure of humanity. And if that is the case, then feminists are right in a sense that females can be men too. Granted, if females wis…	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 04:03 AM
15	Red Pill is not the bible Okay, this isn't a subjective feeling. Let me give a real observation. There are plenty of men who exhibit behavior consistent with what is sufficient to deem a woman as having a rationalization hamster. Since a rationalization hamster is only a metaphor, and the behaviors are indistinguishable, pragmatically speaking, we can conclude both sexes have the rationalization hamster in their head. If this is so, why the emphasis on women exhibiting the hamster? If men are equally guilty of essentiall…	/r/TheRedPill	02/01/15 03:35 AM
2	Dance, Monkey, Dance: The Time Has Come For A Shift In The Mediums Of Seduction Definitely untrue. While I agree with the OP mostly, it's so much easier to open a toneless combination of characters on a screen that you essentially parse instantly vs. opening a voicemail, having to listen through all of your messages instead of being able to choose a single one from a particular sender (like texting), and then listening to a multi-layered (emotively speaking) message comprised of complex, spoken, human language. You can easily avoid messages you don't want if you're looking …	/r/TheRedPill	18/12/14 11:44 PM
3	It's not the red pill truths that upset the masses as much as the socially unskilled ways they are presented This is just a good post in general for any philosophy. It also explains very well the false notion that all atheists are fedora wearing spergys. I think this is why someone like Alan Watts is a lot more popular than someone like Richard Dawkins, in terms of philosophical stances. You have one who is just brutal, and nobody (that disagrees with him) wants to even entertain his thoughts. But the other kind of masks his atheism in a spiritually-friendly way. He gently leads people to a more sound …	/r/TheRedPill	12/12/14 03:44 AM
2	The Sexodus, Part 1: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society While I don't agree with everything he says, there were a lot of things in his book, "Cruel Hoax: Feminism and the New World Order," that made me think. The book is partly the reason I've started lurking and posting here. There are some minor differences between Makow's book and the general trend that TRP has been following, but fundamentally, they're very similar. I'd highly recommend it. There are some things in his book that you should take with a grain of salt, and if you're an atheist like …	/r/TheRedPill	10/12/14 09:31 AM
2	The Sexodus, Part 1: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society I think Henry Makow said it well when he compared feminism to communism and even stated that feminism was a surviving, PC offshoot of communistic thought. But in the end, "equality" (in either ideology's case) leads to the corruption and subjugation of the masses to the benefit of a small group of people. Feminism is doing what communism couldn't: destroying the metaphorical mitochondria on which countries like the U.S. are founded- that is, feminism is destroying the nuclear family. Do not misu…	/r/TheRedPill	09/12/14 11:39 PM
-1	Alphas foster strong loving relationships, whereas relationships with betas rot and fester into toxic codependency. He is one who easily falls to the whims of the world.. and to other women. Damn. One day I ranted to one of our mutual male friends, “He is such a pussy!! Why do I have to be the man in the relationship?? Dating a woman is so exhausting!” To which he nodded and replied, “Oh believe me, I know.” I love this because it supports my own thoughts on the difference between the dichotomies of men/women and male/female. A man finds fulfillment and actualization in possessing and having the power in a re…	/r/TheRedPill	09/12/14 09:56 AM
1	What is TRP's opinion on "Cruel Hoax: Feminism and the New World Order" by, Henry Makow? Just wanted to update this topic. I am on the last "book" in the physical book, and my conclusion is that Henry Makow is pretty red pill, but he does take a conservative view to sex that many Red Pillers may not agree with. In the end though, I think he does justice to Red Pill philosophy in many ways, and is totally worth the read for anyone in this sub. In fact, he may be a good stepping stone for betas with a conservative background, as his philosophy is not as jarring as strict red pill phil…	/r/TheRedPill	20/11/14 09:14 AM
2	‘Man Up,’ ‘Don’t Be A Pussy’ Labeled Offensive Language at Duke University I completely agree with this campaign. I don't think we should censor speech, or disallow people from saying what they want, but people should be made aware that what they say makes them look uneducated and ignorant. From the article: He also questioned the discouragement of statements such as “man up.” “I’m a little concerned about censoring a phrase like ‘man up’… a world without manliness, like a world without femininity… would be a pretty dismal place,” Hendrickson said. Really? This dude is…	/r/MensRights	28/04/14 07:21 PM