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The study is that they find 80% of men undesirable, not average or below average. Undesirable means unattractive or not someone they would consider sexually or romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:46 AM
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In a way, it does work. I know some women who went through 50/50 relationships and were resentful the whole time. Sure they ended up cheating, but the guy still got consistent companionship despite his gf not being attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:44 AM
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It’s as simple as- she’s desperate as well and knows she wouldn’t be able to get a come out of a man anyways. Might as well sleep with him for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:09 PM
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So a woman is a 9 simply cause she gets lots of likes on Instagram? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:43 PM
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The funny thing is the majority of the women in here do brag about being easy. If you go 50/50 you are easy (in comparison to your fellow female peers who expect provisions)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:29 PM
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Sure. There’s women that men will sweet talk so he can fuck her. But that doesn’t mean she’s attractive. It just means he knows a couple of compliments and $0 will get her into bed. That’s easier and cheaper than dealing with a woman that’s either a pro or a woman that expects a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:45 AM
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This is delusional. “6” and “decently attractive” shouldn’t be in the same sentence. She’s either the type of beautiful woman that can gain status and wealth through her looks (modeling, gaining a huge following online, getting handed good jobs, rich men wanting to be with her) Or she’s average- living an average lifestyle. No successful man wants to be with her. She is not worth a dime (even average men will not treat her to a dinner) There’s no competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:37 AM
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If no man settled then most women wouldn’t be taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:02 AM
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Attractive women are usually harder to get. Men want to get laid. Where do you think he’s gonna go?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:58 AM
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This won’t happen due to 50/50 women, yall will go out with anyone who asks you on a coffee date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:31 PM
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You realize it’s women who brag about going 50/50 the most right? At the end of the day, the guys that access them don’t have to pay for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:53 PM
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If a man gets his money up and goes to the gym he can also become a chad. You either become a chad or settle for mids that chads would sneer at.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:47 PM
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Read OPs title and first post. Then tell me how much is the average woman worth when it comes to dating. Why should a man spend any money on her during the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:54 PM
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Curvy is not the same as fat.. how do you not get this Plenty of men like curvy women.. that doesn’t mean they like plus sized women with belly and arm fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:02 AM
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Ok then why are you talking about curvy hair women when my post was about fat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:31 AM
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Why would he do that when you just said there are plenty of women who would spot a man $15 and still put out?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:08 PM
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When I say fat, I mean a woman with a belly, arm fat, saggy chest, big chin and cheeks, back fat. There are women with huge boobs hips and ass and they still have skinny arms and a flat belly/muscular back etc. You don’t have to be fat to have curves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:01 PM
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He picked her up and dropped her off. They went to a cocktail lounge in a central location, that’s kind of far from the suburbs that they both live in. Is she supposed to get a free ride? Btw you’re proving OPs point, that it’s easier for a man to date if he has more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:57 PM
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How was it a sugar situation if the date was going well until she saw he left a $0 tip, and needed gas money? How do you suggest my friend prevent this woman from going to edc in a helicopter? And in the near future, how would he make sure that the women he asks out, have never been on a date where the man can afford to tip the server?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:49 PM
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You realize cocktails are around $15 at the cheapest here for a cocktail lounge right? Appetizers too. There’s also tax. He did stay under budget, if the woman was willing to let go of the fact that he didn’t tip or needs gas money from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:06 PM
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But that was the only attractive woman he’s gotten a date with, from using multiple apps for months. He doesn’t want a mid or fatty. She’s on a billboard in our city. If you know a woman that’s attractive enough to get chosen for that, and is only with a $80 date budget (no tip) (she has to pay for gas) and will put out since he had to spend $75 on her then show me her instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:05 PM
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If you saw how the girl looked like you would know she wouldn’t want to go on a walk. Shes on a billboard here for a nightclub. She just posted herself going to edc with VIP tickets, on a helicopter with possibly another guy. Well the type of women that would go on cheaper dates than him don’t look as good- and could never get chosen for a billboard here because you have to be attractive and really fit. If your solution is that men have to settle for mid women if we aren’t rich, then I can see w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:02 PM
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I’ve never seen a good looking man with an overweight woman… Any man with options is not going for an overweight woman, when they could have curvy women (that aren’t fat) and women that are in shape. There’s plenty of models that are under 6’0… look at Victoria’s Secret lol and none of them are fat. Show me one celebrity man that married a fat woman, or a fat woman on Instagram that has more followers than the skinny models on Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:52 PM
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There’s a difference between curvy and fat. You realize a woman can have all of that and a small stomach right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:45 PM
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But the average man pays for a ring to marry mid women… so that’s even more beta
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:32 AM
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lol no they aren’t. Btw a woman can be skinny but have ass and tits. Somebody doesn’t have to be overweight. I don’t believe you. Show me one fat woman that gets paid more in modeling than one that’s in shape. Show me one rich man that’s married to a fatty, and I’ll show you 10 more that are married to a skinny woman. Btw, some men only go for fat woman because they are perceived to be easy and cheap. Nobody is gonna turn down an easy $0.00 lay, that doesn’t mean you are attractive. Men see you …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:24 AM
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You’re leaving out the part where he’s paying for above average women… He can settle for a mid if he would want to. Something being cheaper does not make it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:21 AM
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He did stick to his budget, he did not spend more than $75. That’s why he didn’t tip, and why he had to make a scene to get some gas money back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 10:07 AM
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How is he a beta, when the alternative (that most average men take) is settling for a mid woman? Just cause she’s free to access? Thats for a reason buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:37 AM
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Yes but they’re doing that to get attractive women. You could argue men without wealth are also beta, because most of them have to settle for mid women. Please look at the average man’s wife. Why would a man in tech want that? He might as well pay for someone who’s actually worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:31 AM
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Explain to me how men with wealth can be beta. What makes him beta when men with no wealth settle with mid women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:27 AM
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Because it’s beta to date and marry mid women. You’re going for the women that a man with money wouldn’t even glance at. How is that not beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:24 AM
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Not really. You said rich men can be beta… but have you seen the average man’s wife or gf? Committing to a mid woman doesn’t make you an alpha just cause she’s free
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:22 AM
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Yeah but the quality of women is better. I think it’s more beta to commit to an average looking woman, or a woman that wouldn’t be good enough to get a millionaire in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:00 AM
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Are we talking about the stingy ones? Cause I know a guy who works in tech who would mess up his own dating life by only asking girls out on coffee dates. And he was doing this in Miami and LA, so the attractive women that fit his standards would ask him for a dinner date. If he was willing to sugar date, he would be able to get a woman that’s significantly more attractive than the girls that are free.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:53 AM
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Yes it is. How many men do you know would choose a fat woman if he had other options?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:41 AM
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Because most attractive women will write off a man who can only afford to take her to a taco stand. Or who asks for gas money. My buddy did that because his budget for the date was $80, their bill was $75. He didn’t tip the server and she saw that, when she mentioned it.. he asked her to do the tip and give him gas money. They were having a great date until that point. She never spoke to him again, because he had to plead and argue with her in public to get $15 from her.. since he can not afford…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:39 AM
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Men with wealth can never be “betas”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:34 AM
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I believe this because I had a buddy that was trying to date this girl he matched with on hinge. They went out for drinks and apps and his budget was $80 their total ended up being around $75 so he didn’t have the room to tip. They were having a great date up until this moment. (Keep in mind I live in a city known for hospitality, so a 0% tip is rare here unless you got terrible service) When she saw it she was like “why not throw $10 on there?” He then proceeded to tell her that the $5 extra wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:34 AM
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Women in the western world are generally overweight, or they have small breasts/bum if they are thin. Most Canadian men do not have an attractive gf or wife, she’s usually the type of woman that isn’t good enough to get a millionaire or successful man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:04 AM
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Doesn’t matter. The average woman in any country is usually overweight, has small or saggy breasts. Look at the average man’s gf anywhere in the world lmao, and then compare it to a millionaire or celebrity man’s gf in that same country.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:01 AM
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If that’s the case then why do most mens gfs not look like her? He’s the average man, but the average man’s gf is significantly fatter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:53 AM
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I agreed with you until the last sentence. Most men could look like this guy, except their gf is 3x bigger and unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:52 AM
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They’re not banging attractive men. They are not good enough for one. The reason why men don’t have to pay for them is because they’re mid- doesn’t matter if the man is a 3 or a 10. That doesn’t change her price.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:51 AM
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You want me to believe this when most of them are on here bragging about low maintenance placeholders and cheap tinder dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:32 AM
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You can judge their body and hair though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:54 AM
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Why would he be with her if he could be with a supermodel? Are you admitting that men settle more?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:53 PM
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So you’re admitting he’s hotter and can have anyone he wants? What would happen to women if men realized their worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:27 PM
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So are they a looksmatch or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:09 PM
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Well the woman has a nice body but she does look over 25 and wears a lot of makeup. How would this mean she’s not for the average man? Especially when men are expected to do all the work in relationships it would make sense for a man to get a woman that’s 1-2 points hotter than himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:08 PM
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There’s entitled women because a lot of men in here keep telling them that they look better than the feminine women who do their hair/makeup and are skinny with big breasts (like the woman in the photo)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:04 PM
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If that’s the case then why do women (that are 3x her size) think they deserve a better man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:02 PM
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I think it’s just makeup but I think we can both agree the average woman is 3x her size, but they want a 666 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:01 PM
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Yeah most women are fatter than her, less educated than her, and have the same average face- but they’re probably aging faster since they don’t have her money. Thats the real reason why men go 50/50 with them. They’re simply not worth it. Loving a woman does not magically turn her skinny or gives her big breasts. If a woman thinks she deserves Mark then tell her to get herself one. I bet she would stay single because most men don’t like overweight women that are already known for sleeping around…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:00 PM
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<image> Is this a looksmatched couple?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:53 PM
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Yeah and she wasn’t fat in her 20s. How is a fat chick gonna get luckier than her? How is a chick with no degree gonna get luckier? Are most women getting lucky? lol no. They have to go 50/50, because they are not worth a man spending a dime on. Not sure what you’re trying to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:50 PM
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She’s not. But if she’s getting more than you, then what does that say about you? The original post is about sugar dating. You know damn well most women go 50/50, and now you want to pretend that a bunch of overweight women are upset that their dating app required them to put their weight? The most mid girls are on the regular dating apps- not the sugar dating kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:32 PM
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Priscilla isn’t sleeping around for free. The women who do are worth less than her (decided by their partners) how do you not understand this? Mark zuckerberg doesn’t decide if Sarah is worth a dinner or not. The men that Sarah sleeps with for free, does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:17 PM
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lol, go find the average man and ask if he would still be in the relationship if his mid looking gf started asking for things that hott girls would get. That would show you that he settled. Ask him if he prefers 4s that are satisfied with French fries from McDonald’s and $2 beer the most, or if that’s the kind of woman he can easily obtain right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:48 PM
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It’s not out of touch when you consider actions > words. A man telling you that you’re x,y,z does not mean much when they are just trying to sleep with you for as less effort and cheap as possible. A man keeping you around as a placeholder because you’re easy and cheap to keep around is not something they’re going to say to your face. It’s well known that chubby chicks are lower maintenance than women that are in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:38 PM
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Why would I when the average woman is sleeping around for free? Ask the average man what his gf is worth, they’re usually worth nothing (including the skinny ones) which is why most women have to go 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:17 PM
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Why would they be freaking out, overweight chicks don’t last long on sugar apps cause men will see them when they meet up. And most overweight women aren’t sugaring, they’re in 50/50 relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:12 PM
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That’s seeking. You realize men and women can lie about their height, weight, race and income on there because it doesnt require you to verify? Most of the overweight women are on tinder/hinge anyways and sleep with men for free.. not an allowance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:10 PM
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That’s the point… most women are not worth a free dinner, because the guy asking them out doesn’t find her attractive (most women are average looking- get it through your heads. The average woman is not better looking than the women that are capable of being a sugar baby/model/bottle girl etc or anything where there’s a barrier to entry) A guy being willing to sleep with a woman he deems easy and cheap is not an actual barrier to entry. If a 10/10 Sofia Vergara chick was easily obtainable for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:39 AM
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I never said they were common… I’ve already stated multiple times that the majority of women are not attractive enough to even get a free dinner from a man, so how would they get money? My point was it’s the women who sleep around for free (and get no commitment or orgasm) that think they’re so much better, smarter, hotter than the women who can get money from it. With this logic it’s like saying the women who get rejected from the most modeling agencies, and clubs are the hottest simply because…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:58 PM
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There was a post on here the other day where a woman posted something like “women shouldn’t have sex for free”. She was talking about casual hookups since she’s a sugar baby herself and other women in the comments were bragging about how they are superior than her because she charges stranger men to hookup, while they sleep with men for free instead (and without getting a commitment)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:18 AM
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Because they’re not attractive either, they are average. Why should they be requiring the same things a hott woman would?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:17 PM
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Attractive women are out of the average man’s reach. Average women are supposed to be easy for us and you guys are the main ones saying they will sleep around for free so then why aren’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:40 PM
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Those are the women that brag about how they will Netflix and chill with anyone though.. those aren’t the women that men want to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:38 PM
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Because most men have to settle. Men are expected to approach 99% of the time. Why should a man have to do all of that, work 40 hours, settle for women that are below his physical standards but she still makes it hard for him to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:34 PM
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This contradicts what most women in here claim. You guys claim that women love sleeping around for free, since they use this to compete with sex workers and hypergamous women. You guys also claim being a single mom makes you more of a “real” woman because you’re independent and don’t need a man, unlike those pathetic married women who need a man to help raise her child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:26 PM
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This is absolute bs. No man is wasting a dime on the average woman. The women in this forum literally gloat about how they sleep with random stranger men for free instead of charging like a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:23 PM
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If you agree to going 50/50, then why is it an issue that other women get more than you? If you’re so happy to be easily obtainable by the guy you are with, then why would it bother you if he treats you exactly like that? If a woman wants to sleep around casually for free then that’s on her. I would argue these women are the most hateful towards stay at home wives, spoiled girlfriends, sugar babies and sex workers simply because men perceive them to be worth less and easier to get with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:45 PM
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How much would a cheaper sugar baby cost if you met up with them 4 times a month? It’s still significantly more expensive than just finding a regular woman to be casual with.. especially because you can ask her to pay for her own half on the dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:43 PM
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You have no idea how much a sex worker costs. Let’s say the average guy wants to sleep with his gf 2-5 times a week. Do you know how much a sex worker would charge for that? That would be 8-20 times a month. Most girls charge by the hour, and sugar babies usually want a 4 figure allowance. Why would a man spend that if he can find a woman to go 50/50 with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:05 AM
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Why would I have to do that if women are volunteering to go 50/50 or sleeping around with men for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:04 AM
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I don’t believe that you know a lot of supermodels or bombshells. The average woman doesn’t deserve a dime, the majority of men are settling for them so of course you would not pay for one. Most men would not pay for someone that’s not worth that much, so what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:01 AM
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These are also the same women who hate on sex workers, despite acting like free ones. If you agree to have casual sex with a guy without negotiating payment or commitment first then how would that be his fault? You don’t have to sleep with him. You don’t need to have casual sex at all. A lot of women don’t even realize that some men want to hire a pro, but can’t afford it so they will sweet talk to get a fwb/situationship. (Ladies it’s obvious, half of you can’t even get a dinner from him or any…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:58 AM
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Most hott women are not with a hobo sexual lol. Those men who want to mooch usually aim for less attractive women. Show me proof of a 10 that’s free to fuck. And is free to date and marry. If this was the case, most men would not be settling if there was a bunch of 10s we could fuck anytime without spending a dime.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:53 AM
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Nah, if anything you’re the one coping if you genuinely believe the average woman looks better than Sophie rain or that they’re not going 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:24 PM
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No there’s not. Most women are going 50/50. Most women are not trophy wives. You can go argue with their husbands who clearly see them as lower value than sugar babies, strippers, etc. Think about it like this. If a man wants to see a hott chick like Sophie rain he has to spend money on her OF, how are you better than Sophie just because men sleep with you for free and also don’t have to commit? If Sophie was also willing to fuck the average joe for $0, what chance would average women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:14 PM
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Yeah, why would a man pay when 90% of women would sleep with him for free right? Most women are average looking- and definitely look worse than most escorts. There’s a reason why most women can’t get a dime. The problem is you guys trying to require the same things that a hott woman would require in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:12 PM
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Women are the ones here bragging about being free and easy to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:11 PM
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Okay, and do you promise that it’ll cost that hot man $0 to fuck her, date her and marry her? And does this mean every average woman should be free for average men? No free dinners and no anniversary gifts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:11 PM
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Do you think every man is married to a bombshell?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:14 PM
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It’s funny because the average women in this forum would probably call her unattractive and lame for not showing her chest to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:06 PM
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Because you don’t know what “free” means. Once you show me a hott woman that any average joe can fuck for $0, then I will believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:04 PM
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If I refuse to spend a dime on my wife, she would surely know she’s average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:03 PM
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Who cares if they’re out earning them? That doesn’t mean they are spending on them. Nope, how’s it revenge when even 99% of the women in this thread admitted that most women sleep with men for free? 😂 if anything you guys seem envious of sex workers and sugar babies… because they can get something a lot of women can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:02 PM
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Yes, now imagine being a woman that’s completely free to sleep with. You would be considered lower than those sex workers. Idc. Reality will show you what you’re worth when the men you sleep with never spend a dime on you or commit to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:01 PM
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You’re right. Most women are going 50/50 so you don’t even have to buy her a $5 coffee 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:00 PM
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If I hook up with a woman casually for a coffee date then she’s basically a $5 escort, you realize that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:58 PM
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I dont have to convince you of anything, the majority of women are already sleeping with men for free and they will never be able to get anything more because those men don’t think she’s worth anything more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:56 PM
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Dude I never said that women don’t enjoy sex. I simply said most aren’t attractive enough to get anything out of it. Nah, there’s plenty of attractive sex workers and women that aren’t “free”. Tell me this- why does the average man’s wife look like that, if it was sooooo easy for us to be with a gorgeous women for free? Most men have to settle. The guys that fuck gorgeous women have no issue spending money on them. How do you not understand this? Just because a woman enjoys sex, does not mean th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:50 PM
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Either average women will require nothing from average men, or they do. If it’s the latter, they are just as transactional as a sex worker. If you are not out of a man’s league there is no reason why it would require money or effort to date you or sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:46 PM
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If you don’t then you’re admitting that all women are prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:45 PM
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Admitting your wife is average does not make you a scum bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:45 PM
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Hm so what does this imply about the women that are worth even less than a prosti? Again, I’m not against women sleeping around for free but stop hyping them up to be 10s. A man fucking a woman cause it was easy and cheaper than hiring a professional does not mean she’s the 10 she thinks she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:44 PM
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Don’t believe you, the majority of women don’t get anything. Hence, that’s what being “free” means.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:43 PM
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Instagram models also don’t sleep around for free. Look at the average man’s wife or gf. Thats enough proof that we have to settle for what’s easy or free if we don’t make enough money or have enough status/looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:42 PM
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Is somebody actually paying them? What would this imply about the women who will never get a dime out of their bf? I already told you the majority of women will have to sleep with men for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:42 PM
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I never said they don’t get horny. But they don’t sleep around for free, if it was that easy- any average joe would be able to fuck a 10 by spending nothing. Not even a dime on gas money. I’ll believe you once a janitor can fuck Sofia Vergara by just messaging her on Instagram. Gorgeous women are not as easy or cheap as the women who get 0 attention. Look at the average man’s gf or wife. That’s enough proof that most men can’t get an attractive woman- whether it’s organic or transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:41 PM
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Exactly and reality will show you that 80% of women are not worth enough to charge for sex. Sorry but if they don’t put out for free, no man would ever pay attention to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:35 PM
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Have you seen what the average woman looks like? Lmao there’s a reason why they charge even less than a prosti. A lot of women sleep around for free, won’t get money or a commitment out of it. Men use them for free sex and they think it’s a flex, because it makes them “cooler” than the sugar babies or women that do get something out of sex. You know some men adore the women they sleep with and don’t mind spending money on them right? It’s just that the average woman is not worth all of that.. wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:34 PM
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No, the majority of women can’t charge for sex.. that’s why they are cheap to date and sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:32 PM
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A man you desire can still choose to spoil you lmao, but the problem is most women are not worth that. I saw a woman get a Chanel bag yesterday. But there’s also women that didn’t get a dime or effort yesterday. Not all women are valued equally. Thats why some women get cars as push presents and other women never get a dime/provisions for their child from the man they slept with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:31 PM
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Yes they are. It’s just nothing to brag about since they are the average women that men settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:30 PM
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Yes they are lmao. Sure they’re just average looking but it’s still free, cause they enjoy sex with men who don’t value them remember? At least be consistent. Lies lol plenty of women were crying yesterday when they saw how other women got Mother’s Day presents whereas the men in their life gave them nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:12 PM
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Sure but the men in your life decide your value. Thats why some women got a present yesterday and other women didn’t. Some aren’t worth spending a dime on, so why would OP tell the majority of women to stop sleeping with men for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:10 PM
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How is 200 cheap when most women hook up for free as long as the man sweet talks them into a situationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:06 PM
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Most women are average looking so why would a man pay to do anything with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:05 PM
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They definitely do. Look at all the comments of women thinking they’re holier than thou because they hook up casually for free
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:04 PM
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No it’s not lol a lot of women are too average looking to charge for sex. What makes you think a random man would pay a woman for sex, when that same woman can’t get a dime out of her own husband or boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:04 PM
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They’re bragging to other women about how they’re free lmao. Did you read OPs post? Any man can hook up with these free women. One minute you guys say most women are free to access and now you’re saying a man can’t hook up? Why would it be harder to hook up with one of you vs paying a sex worker? One requires money, that I have to work for. The other doesn’t require anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:01 PM
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I already said only a minority of women are attractive enough to be “seggs workers” or worth any effort/resources in general. So we agree that the average woman sleeps around for free.. I won’t have an issue getting laid lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:00 PM
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It’s not a minority but sure let’s let women keep believing that so you can all continue to sleep with us for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:50 PM
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Doesn’t matter what most women want, they wouldn’t be able to get a dime either way if they get respect or not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:50 PM
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I don’t have to “neg”. Women do enough of that by bragging about how they sleep around for free like yas girl hooking up for a cup of coffee makes you so much better than the women that men are willing to pay for
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:49 PM
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Most women would never be able to find out if their husband had a sugar baby. Sugar babies are discreet. How would the gf or wife find out, since she’s so arrogant to assume that every other woman on earth is free to access? If these men don’t have sugar babies then they are cheating on their wives for free. Yes, but the women that are free are free because they are below a man’s league. Do you understand that as well? They are not out of my league or any man’s league, they are free because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:08 PM
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Yes, because most women aren’t pretty. They’re average. It’s funny to me how women are other women’s biggest haters. You guys make it seem like beauty is no big deal.. then why can’t you explain why most women have none and are average?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:54 PM
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No, it’s because she’s cheap. Why else would it cost $0 to sleep with her? And you don’t have to commit to her either. False. A lot of handsome married men have sugar babies- that look significantly better than their wife. Just because you are free to access does not mean other cute women are. Do you understand that? If you know so many free women then let the incels in this forum know, so they can get laid for free instead of paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:50 PM
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They are sleeping around. The men they sleep with aren’t committing to them or spending a dime. Sure they might like the sex but the point is they are still free and cheap compared to sex workers, because they have lower value than them. You can argue with the men who sleep with them for free. Even if they wanted to charge or ask him to drop off a Starbucks- he wouldn’t because she is not worth that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:49 PM
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I don’t have to click on it. The fact that the average woman has to sleep around for free to compete with other women proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:42 PM
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Doesn’t matter. Plenty of women will still sleep with men for free, and then brag about how they’re not “transactional”. One day you guys will realize that a penny is still a transaction, that doesn’t necessarily mean you are better than the women that are worth much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:42 PM
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Physically attractive men with good jobs don’t marry women that have $0 value. Literally anyone with $0 can sleep with her. You want me to believe that handsome successful men are with women that are not worth a dime? Why would he choose someone that’s lower than a low end escort? You realize free women are still transactional right? They’re just aware that they are not worth as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:40 PM
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If a man treated a woman like a $0.00 sex worker- and she sleeps with him anyways then what would that make her? Newsflash but a lot of women that sleep around for free aren’t necessarily found to be attractive or interesting by the men they sleep with. They just chose her cause she’s cheap. How does that not make her easy if she’s easier to be with than a low end escort, that will actually require money? Men exchange time for money at their job. It’s safe to say the woman the costs $0 is easier…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:37 PM
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Yes but an average looking woman wouldn’t be able to get a dime in the first place. Why would you pay for her when she’s supposed to be free? Most women are not worth that much- that’s the actual stigma. Most men would definitely pay for a 10/10.. the average wife and gf of a man is a 5. They simply can’t compare to an actual beautiful woman, because they don’t have a drop of value outside of cheap sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:35 PM
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They’re attractive but also worth $0? Just because you think they’re attractive does not mean the men in their life thought they had any value. They weren’t worth any money or effort, that’s why some women have no choice but to be free to date and sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:33 PM
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Attractive women don’t sleep around for free. Other women do, it’s the only way they can compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:23 PM
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Because the real reason why men would refuse to spend a dime is because most women are average looking. Look at the average man’s wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:23 PM
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A lot of average looking women are also boring. You realize that right? Women think being mid and easy automatically makes them interesting or charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:22 PM
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Yes but the average woman looks worse than most professionals… thats why they have to offer free sex. It’s the only way they can compete. You must have never seen the average man’s wife… it would be unfair if men had to spend money or effort on average looking women. I never said they could be high class escorts, I said most of them are free. They would not even be able to charge $200 a hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:05 PM
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Nope. Most women are too average to be expecting a man to pay for full date. Most women are going 50/50. And of course a date is cheaper than a professional, that’s why it’s laughable that women put themselves on a pedestal for sleeping with a man after a coffee date. And then complaining he ghosted her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:57 PM
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Because men aren’t gonna turn down free and easy sex and companionship if he’s an average earner. I never said men were more attractive, but they have more value. Which is why it’s unfair that we would have to spend any money or effort on a woman we had to settle for. we can agree that 80% of women should be cheap to date because that’s what their value is, but it’s not actually their choice to be “cheap”, it’s simply because the men in their life have decided that’s what she’s worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:55 PM
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Yeah that’s why some women get time and resources, cause they have value. Women that have low value have to have sex for free. What don’t you get? It would be unfair if they required something- because they are not worth that. You are basically agreeing with me by saying you sleep around for free, and that you feel superior to the women that offer more than cheap, easy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:51 PM
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But you fail to realize that most women are not worth that much.. so it’s appropriate that their bf does not spend a dime on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:50 PM
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Nope. You’re most likely going for cute women who know they can get a man to spend money on them. There’s plenty of average looking women who can’t get a dime- they’re the ones who will sleep around for free
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:49 PM
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Because you wouldn’t be able to. Average looking women are free so they can compete with attractive women. If attractive women were that easy and cheap to sleep with, do you think any man would even bother with an average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:48 PM
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A man being willing to sleep with a woman because she’s easy and cheap does not mean he likes her. Why would a man turn down free sex, do you think all men are millionaires that can afford to hire professionals/have sugar babies? Thats my point. Most women aren’t Stacies so how they be able to charge for a casual hookup? Why wouldn’t she do it for free, if that’s the only thing she can offer that a Stacy won’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:47 PM
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How is it “retarded” if he can’t afford an attractive professional? Why should a man go heads being sexless when there’s plenty of average looking women who will give him what he wants easily? You sound like a woman who thinks too highly of her gender. Most women aren’t attractive, which is exactly why men are willing to pay once they get the funds to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:44 PM
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That means you’re going for women that are “hypergamous”. You have to go for the type that are in this forum bragging about how they sleep with men for free to prove how sexually liberated they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:39 PM
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You wouldn’t be able to charge. Most women couldn’t. Why should a man spend any money or effort being with an average looking woman, when effort and money is only reserved for attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:37 PM
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Yes but that’s because it’s free.. Average women would not be able to get laid if they started charging, or expected a free dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:36 PM
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Most men can’t afford to. Do you know how much an attractive professional costs in comparison to the average looking woman? Most men simply don’t make enough. We have to settle. Most men’s wives are average looking, it’s delusional to say he is attracted to them. A man fucking you cause it costs $0 and little effort does not mean he finds you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:35 PM
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The supply is definitely not “low” if you consider how many women are willing to give it up for free, that’s the only way average women can compete with attractive women. Stop inflating their egos. Most women are not worth enough to spend any money on, whether it’s for a one night stand or long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:34 PM
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I doubt it. Most women can’t charge- and they shouldn’t be able to. They’re too average looking. Most men have to settle, whether it’s for a marriage or one night stand. Look at the average man’s wife. Most women should be free to keep around and access. If men wanted to pay, we would be with someone that’s actually worth it. If you’re average looking, the time you spend with a guy should be free and easy. Stop making men jump through hoops or wait for the second date if you know you do not look…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:32 PM
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Not necessarily. Most women are average looking and wouldn’t be able to charge anything.. this is why most women can’t get a dinner date out of her boyfriend. She knows she is not worth that money or hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:27 PM
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So if a man can afford to hire an attractive professional that fits his fantasy, why would he let his average looking wife that he settled for stop that? It’s funny how you women brag so much about being financially independent, but then you lose it at the thought of other beautiful women that are worth spending money on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:25 PM
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Average looking women absolutely do. No man is investing time or money for an average woman. Thats what the op fails to realize. How can a woman stop having sex for free when that’s all she’s worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:18 PM
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Most men have an average looking wife. Being settled for because you are cheap and easy to access and keep around does not mean you are our first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:18 PM
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If that’s the case, then most women are still charging too much. The average woman is average looking. She shouldnt be making a man wait til the second date, and she shouldn’t be expecting him to spend any money on her. If she does then how is she different from an attractive sugar baby who wants a financial allowance?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:11 PM
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If anything, we should criticize her for inflating women’s egos. Most women are average looking and couldn’t be a prostitute in the first place, they have to be free or else men would never glance at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:10 PM
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Most women will do it for a coffee date. That’s all they are worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:09 PM
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Wrong. Most women aren’t attractive enough to be an escort. What the op fails to realize is that most women are average looking so yes they should be free to access. I’m glad more women in this forum are agreeing with this and knowing their place. A lot of you aren’t worth enough to be demanding anything, this includes the women who think men should pay for their coffee dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:08 PM
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So? A lot of women are average looking and not worth much. Your fellow female peers have to fuck for free- or they wouldn’t even get a glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:07 PM
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This is BS. Most women are average looking so they are already cheap. Men are inflating their egos by making them believe they have the same value as an attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:06 PM
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That’s because a lot of men don’t have the option to and have to settle for a mid wife to get free sex. Why can’t we be honest to women and stop inflating their egos?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:05 PM
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That’s not necessarily the case. Some women have to have sex for free because they are not attractive enough to get a dime in the first place. There’s plenty of women on onlyfans that love having sex- and men love spoiling them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:05 PM
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Well a tall guy would deserve a fit woman, why would a short man deserve the same as him? Or are you saying that tall men should be with fatties?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:28 PM
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Technically men show you guys this by asking you to go 50/50. It’s the delusional liberal feminist boss babes that insist that these men are in love with you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:34 AM
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I’ve had women tell me that they feel manipulated if that older man does not provide for them or give them cash. Because they don’t actually want him for his looks. If he was upfront about 50/50, they would have stopped entertaining him. A lot of women want a sugar daddy but don’t want to explicitly say it. They assume you will automatically assume the role if you are older than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:32 AM
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But it’s too expensive to do that for an average looking woman. $40 isn’t bad for drinks and a meal at a sit down restaurant, but $40 is pretty bad for one McDonald’s burger. Most women are not worth that much. Doesn’t matter if you have money or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:39 AM
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That’s my point.. she made it seem like only ugly women in poverty want to date men with resources. Bottle girls make more money than her probably- and they’re not out here choosing for looks. Some of them literally are dating old ass bald men that are paying their bills and bought them a car. Since they have their own money why aren’t they okay with dating a janitor?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:47 AM
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This is such a stupid take. A lot of bottle girls in my city make 6 figures and they still won’t date a janitor or unemployed man, even though the average man probably looks better than they do without their makeup. How would you explain this? The women here who drive nice cars still date men that have resources and nice cars themself. They won’t date an average joe, even though she is average herself if you minus the makeup and boob jobs. Making good money as a woman does not turn you into a Vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:47 AM
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Yes but my point is it wouldn’t matter if a man could provide $0 or $1000000. If he has to settle for an average looking woman then he shouldn’t have to spend anything on her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:27 AM
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Men already do settle. It’s women who won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:22 AM
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Any woman would have to answer to those consequences. If your man had to settle for you then you shouldn’t be expecting him to pay for anything- this includes presents, dinners, etc. If attractive women had realistic standards then men would not be having to settle for other women out of a lack of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:08 AM
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I doubt it, unless the nepo girls are the unattractive ones that no successful man would ever glance at twice. You guys have to stop hyping up 50/50 girls. There’s a reason why no man would spend a dime on them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:40 AM
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They don’t necessarily have an expiration date but if they ever let themselves go or gain weight then yes. Some women might have big breasts and a small waist today so they think they can be picky. But what happens when that waist gets bigger or her chest gets saggier? Will she still expect men to ask her and treat her to dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:00 AM
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Those super attractive women probably only have 2 more years of being attractive so why wouldn’t they want to lock down their looksmatch now? If they wait too long- they will no longer even qualify for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:19 PM
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They’re not “whores” for simply being attractive, and I’ve seen women who look like that in real life. They’re rare though, which is why I said the average woman shouldn’t expect men to pay for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:18 PM
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Women should already be self aware so why would it dry their panties up? Do they really expect men to waste money on women that they have to settle for? If attractive women’s egos weren’t so inflated, and they were willing to date their looksmatch… most men would not have to even settle for an average looking woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:17 PM
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False. Most women aren’t “pretty” enough to get away with the “bad behavior” of being worth a first date. My point was we should be honest about why a lot of women should be pulling their weight. It’s not for any of the reasons you listed, it’s simply because it’s not fair for the man to spend money on average looking women. Most women are not worth enough to be doing the things you listed anyways. Thats exactly why the man they’re with right now is not doing it for them. You realize most men ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:15 PM
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No, the alternative is only dating women that are worth spending money on. Don’t date women that other men would sneer at or consider “trash” “cheap leftovers” etc. There’s a reason why she’s used to paying her own- no man has ever thought she was worth it. If you’re the first guy- then you probably have to clean your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:12 PM
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She’s fine paying because she’s used to men not wanting to pay for her. It’s not her choice to go 50/50- the man was gonna make her do it anyways, because she is not worth the meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:09 PM
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Nope, this is why women are delusional. What a man does for you for the first date has nothing to do with him, but has everything to do with THE woman’s value. The “fresh” thing doesn’t make sense. A man meeting you for the first time does not increase your value to the point where you would be worth more than a $5 coffee. Any “50/50” woman is like that for a reason- most men have already decided her value in the dating market. Her value is low, which is why she can’t expect to get a cocktail or…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:48 PM
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You can say that all you want but there’s a reason why some women never get spoiled or provided for, the men they date or marry simply think they are worth $0. 50/50 aren’t “bought” because they are free. But we should at least be honest and admit why they are so easy to access compared to beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:19 PM
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I disagree. The women you think are not worth it are probably below average or average looking. Again, that’s not the type of woman that any man should be trying to date in the first place. You guys pump up their egos by validating them with a relationship. If a woman isn’t beautiful enough to attract men that would think she’s worth more than $0- then she isn’t marriage/dating material. Thats a woman that any man can access, including homeless ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:16 PM
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Nope. He says he doesn’t pay for dates which means he’s dealing with 50/50 women. 50/50 women aren’t as attractive or desirable as their other female peers- which is exactly why men refuse to spend any money on them. It’s a double edged sword, yes they are easy to get with but you pay for that with their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:14 PM
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What quality of women do you get with the 50/50 thing? Because I do agree the average man’s gf is just mid and not worth more than $5… but most men should not be bragging about cuffing that type of woman. Thats called settling and simping. It’s a double edged sword. It’s true that most women aren’t attractive enough to spend any money on… (they’re used to this because most men don’t find them attractive) but the thing is they’re not the type youactually date and introduce to your family and frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:11 PM
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No it’s not. Why can’t men acknowledge that most of their gfs are mid? If she can’t attract a millionaire she’s a mid. She can’t compete in miss universe- she’s a mid. Reality will show you she’s mid with an average lifestyle. So why would any man spend more than $5 on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:59 PM
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No, it’s more like because that woman is not worth any time or money in the first place. I’ve seen most of the women that average joes marry. She’s not worth more than $5. Men complain about simps, and then go out and spend $500 or more on a mid woman’s engagement ring. It’s hypocritical. You can’t complain about women’s egos but then you are dating one that can’t even compete in miss universe. Coffee dates are simply about what a woman’s worth. Attractive ones can get something better. But most…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:57 PM
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I don’t have to. The men that you guys date will show you by being stingy with his resources, meanwhile he would have no problem spoiling someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:53 PM
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What? No I’m blue pill. The thing is with red pilled men is that they do not want average looking women, which is why they improve themselves and try to get better. And I believe that a mid woman can only be “mid” if it’s objective, it’s not enough if 2000 men would ignore her, but 5000 would buy her a drink and ask for her number. It needs to be a woman that is ignored by the majority of men. Most men aren’t picking to hookup with a 39 year old woman when other women exist. Men rather pay for y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:28 AM
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What do you think a “mid” woman is? I’m talking about objectively, where 90% of men think so. Sorry but I’ve seen overweight, average looking 39 year old women who don’t have that many options. She would be the average joes looksmatch. Your looksmatch is not a woman that is technically able to do better than you. It has to be a woman that can’t attract a better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:18 AM
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It’s true though. If they were hypergamous then how do so many of them get used for free sex? Why is it so easy to meet up with a stranger on tinder, all you have to do is offer a cup of coffee… make them pay for it themselves and they’ll still come over after and hook up. Actual hypergamous women would expect a man to pay for a real date and to “prove” himself. You can just randomly message them and expect them to clear their schedule for a cup of coffee(that they have to pay for).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:13 AM
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Yeah, she’ll lose the man to somebody else. She doesn’t have as many options so she actually has more to lose by making the guy wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:53 AM
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Fluffy women prefer fluffy men. Fit women prefer fit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:49 AM
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It depends, he was probably going to make you pay your half. My point was- when a man is expected to pay for dates… a woman shouldn’t expect anything over $5 if she is average looking. This also goes for girlfriends, most women simply don’t look good enough for a man to waste $50 on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:46 AM
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Most women are not smart enough to practice hypergamy. Or they’re simply not attractive enough to have the option to choose between an average joe and a handsome man. Mid women shouldn’t require the same amount of resources/time/effort that an attractive woman does… meaning that you should accept coffee dates or walk in the park dates if you know your appearance is not top tier. It would be a waste of money for the man. Mid women shouldn’t require the same things in a long term relationship eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:44 AM
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Yes but the reason is because most women aren’t worth a dinner. Anything over $5 should be reserved for attractive women. It’s funny how women always frame it as they prefer coffee. Maybe you do prefer coffee but that isn’t the reason why men want to only do that with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:36 AM
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I already said no. Men with beer bellies tend to be attracted to women with masculine bodies (smaller chests, wider waists, belly fat) Whereas men with masculine bodies (muscle, abs) tend to be attracted to women with perkier/bigger chests and smaller waists/bellies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:08 AM
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If you think you look better than another woman simply because you are “natural” and invested less time and work, then you are arrogant. This is like saying a regular 35 yo woman looks better than miss universe cause she’s more “natural”. I said that it’s usually feminine women that like masculine looking men. And vice versa, it’s usually women with saggy chests that like skinny fat men and it’s usually skinny fat men that like women with saggier chests. This excludes women with nice bodies that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:20 AM
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The woman I posted has 6 million followers. Can you show me proof that the average woman with saggier boobs are more attractive and desirable than her? A woman isn’t necessarily above another woman just because she’s natural. If lizzo is natural, that doesn’t mean she looks better than Megan Fox (megan fox has work done)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:07 AM
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Then show me a natural woman that has bigger, perkier tits than her and a smaller belly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:03 AM
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I don’t think so. Most chubby women I have seen, especially on here are the breadwinners… so they can’t be dating a doctor. Not even chubby women. But the women that aren’t shaped like this will have no choice but to be the breadwinner or they will most likely stay single https://preview.redd.it/mxmwwdsmzuxe1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ca3ecde3685b99f868e7c0835b77f00fbc7f8dc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:31 PM
1

No doctor is going for an obese 24 year old. That obese 24 year old woman would be with another obese 24 year old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:28 PM
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Most young women are not ugly or out of shape. You are confusing them with middle aged women, whose eating habits finally caught up to them after a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:21 PM
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Yes but this means a young woman that is also pretty or in shape is not an average joes looksmatch. It’s not possible. If she can not keep him then she can just wait til she gets older and fatter and settle for an average joe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:15 PM
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You don’t know what “mid” means then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:07 PM
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This only works if men as a collective, stopped engaging in age gap relationships. If a 36 year old doctor and a 24 year old game stop worker are going for the same 24 year old woman then what? The 36 year old doctor probably sees her as attractive and youthful instead of “average”. Whereas the guy her age sees her as “average”. If women are hypergamous then wouldn’t they go for the men that see her as attractive vs going for men that are settling for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:04 PM
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Women that have youth are not AVERAGE. So it makes sense that they wouldn’t want an average man. Actual average women have no positive attributes, so they are always of an average age. (Middle aged, not young) Average women are not supposed to be young, smart, pretty or in shape…. Average women are simply average. They become the average joes looksmatch once she loses her youth, good looks and fit body.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:56 PM
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Yes but the average joes looksmatch is not a woman that has youth or beauty or anything. It would be an average, plain insignificant woman that is burned out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:44 PM
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Yeah this would mean that most men wouldn’t exist, cause their moms would not have qualified for their dads. It also means that IF their dads weren’t a simp and left an average woman- most men would have to grow up without a dad since their moms are very very average looking, and shouldn’t have been able to keep a man (unless he’s a simp)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:39 PM
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No it’s not. Some women have a lot of options because a collective of men decided to go for them, possibly offering them free food and even money. This gives those women more things to filter out. For supply and demand- most women wouldn’t have options if men only went for their looksmatch…. And your looksmatch is a woman that wouldn’t be able to do better than you. She either says yes to you or stays single forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:38 PM
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Most men wouldn’t even exist if their fathers only went for above average women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:35 PM
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It won’t happen cause men aren’t gonna go sexless just because a woman is average looking. Most men wouldn’t even exist because their moms were also average looking
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:34 PM
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They are apart of the dating pool. A lot of women hide it. You are inflating her wallet. Men should be seeking out free sex, you realize most men are not rich enough to pay for sex every time they get horny right? Most women are going 50/50, so a man can’t bring finances to a relationship… the escorts are benefitting hundreds from you in exchange, for something that would be free if you and the escort were looksmatched
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:49 PM
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This won’t work because simps simp for a chance at getting sex. They rather get sex and get called a simp than to not simp and lose out on sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:46 PM
1

Right. This is the only way a man can sleep and date around for essentially $0.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:43 PM
1

Most women are going 50/50… And most men in this forum are not paying for dates. Thats a Disney fantasy that the women on here keep trying to push on us, to shame us into paying
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:42 PM
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Turning to sex workers inflates their egos and wallets. You know this right? Also a lot of women sugar on the side in secret, the women you’re trying to date might have inflated standards because she already is taking some men’s money on the side. And why would a man want to pay hundreds for sex when most don’t even want to pay $20 for a first date? If you sleep with cheaper, less attractive escorts you will inflate her ego. If you sleep with the top escorts, you will be spending over $1000.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:42 PM
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Most women aren’t doing that though. Look at this forum. So many of know they’re mid and are going 50/50 and will clear their schedules for a last minute coffee date for any man. If anything, it’s men who are inflating egos by constantly competing for the small % of attractive women, those are the women that can reject an average joe to go out and hook up with a chad. Chads aren’t sleeping with average women, they literally sneer at them. Go for the women that Chad would sneer at.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:38 PM
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Most women are not attractive enough to be “compensated” for their looks. Men can’t complain about women’s “unrealistic” standards if you are contributing to hoeflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:12 PM
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Show me a woman with natural saggy breasts and belly fat that has millions of followers. Cause the woman I sent you, definitely has more men admiring them than the fat women you guys try to push on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:11 PM
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Do you think men are attracted to saggy chests? Do you think men are attracted to belly fat? All because you claim it’s natural? You’re assuming the woman in the photo is plastic simply because she is not overweight and saggy like the average woman… Some women are actually attractive, and won’t have the qualities that average women have due to being lazy and sloppy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:10 PM
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He said he likes “mid” women.. how are mid women attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:08 PM
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Just because a woman has big breasts that aren’t saggy does not mean it’s plastic. And I think a flat belly that is achieved with lipo is still better than a natural one that has belly fat… belly fat shouldn’t be glorified in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:07 PM
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Well this is why unattractive women have overinflated egos. Men should not be validating them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:53 PM
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In the first photo he is skinny fat… in the second he lost fat but gained muscle. Even if she has plastic surgery, she has a more feminine figure than the average woman. Men don’t like belly fat or smaller chests. The same way women don’t like skinny fat men, but are virtue signaling. Women virtue signaling about liking fat men so they expect men to agree with the whole “all sizes are beautiful” crap
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:51 PM
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Because men can sugar date.. when you sugar date you can get a new gf or casual fling any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:41 PM
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no, men do not prefer mid women. Men prefer beautiful women with feminine figures. <image> You guys are always getting men to lower their standards into settling. It’s called “hoeflation”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:40 PM
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It’s a actually fit chicks with <image> big feminine breasts that prefer the right Women with masculine figures (smaller chest) prefer men with feminine figures (belly fat like the left)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:38 PM
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No. It’s like comparing a woman with belly fat and a saggy or smaller chest to a woman with huge perky breasts and no waist/belly at all. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:36 PM
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Well for some women, money doesn’t matter cause they have always went 50/50 and no man is gonna spend on dime on them either way.. A woman liking a skinny fat man is similar to when a man likes a woman that doesn’t have huge perky breasts, small waist, big bum combo.. have you seen the average man’s gf because her chest is either small or it’s big but saggy.. in my opinion, if your gfs breasts don’t look fake or people don’t assume they’re fake then it means it’s not big and perky enough to be c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:35 PM
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Nope. Most women are 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:22 AM
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Sure but she can be cheap compared to her other female peers… why do you think some women require men to provide for them… whereas other women will clear her schedule to entertain any man that asks her on a coffee date? Some women are simply easier to access. Most men don’t have the time and resources to take a woman to nobu, but most men can buy a coffee or ask a woman to his apartment after midnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:31 AM
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It doesn’t matter because what a woman is worth is based on HER appearance, which is what decides if she can be cheap to access or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:42 PM
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It is necessary to have a lot of options or else men will inflate the woman they’re with. Look at the average man’s wife- she’s no Sofia Vergara yet their egos are pumped up since men validate them with a relationship. Men shouldn’t be giving commitment to women that wouldn’t have a chance in becoming a celebrity or supermodel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:42 PM
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That’s not a good thing. Average men still deserve a woman that isn’t an eyesore/leftover that no other man would want. How many men would qualify as “successful”? Thats my point. The attractive women will choose successful men over average joes- which would leave average joes with the rejects.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:38 PM
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Because you said that they can’t afford the lifestyle… wtf kind of lifestyle are you implying that average women would deserve? It doesn’t matter if a woman is successful or not. She won’t get a successful man if she’s not in top % of attractiveness. Men are not intimidated- they are just not attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:27 PM
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The man’s race/looks etc doesn’t matter. Women that are free to access are supposed to be free to access by anyone. It’s based on the woman’s value and worth. Most women are not capable of getting a dime out of a man-simply because she is not worth that much. How would she practice hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:05 PM
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Most women in general go 50/50. They don’t have the option to practice hypergamy if they are average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:02 PM
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If you’re going for the top 33%, then you should easily be able to get laid for free.. or $10 coffee date max. Most women (90-95%) are not attractive or desirable enough to practice hypergamy. If they did they simply would never be able to go on a date or get laid, or even meet somebody off the app. A 5 man doesn’t have to drop cash to date a 6 or 7… he would have to drop cash to date somebody like Miss Universe, Kylie Jenner, Sofia Vergara… not random nobodies. If you’re a non celeb man only wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:48 PM
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Honestly this is why I laugh when a man brags about his gf being 50/50 or low maintenance.. he doesn’t realize that she’s cheap to access because she is not cute looking enough to get a dime out of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:43 PM
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No they don’t. If you look at the average man’s wife you’ll see she’s none of these things: young, fit, beautiful. She’s insignificant and plain- something a successful or gainfully employed man would sneer at.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:39 PM
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Sorry but I don’t believe this. Even if you’re an above average man that does not mean you are looksmatched with the top 1% of women.. you would have to be top1% yourself. If you’re willing to fuck an average woman, it would be free or at most $15 for a coffee date. Paying $15 once, to be able to fuck someone over and over is more realistic than it is for the average man to pay $300-1500 an encounter. There are Splenda babies. Most average men don’t even want to fuck those. They want to fuck the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:15 AM
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But a lot of guys are already turned off by the $100 fee, or the idea of paying for a $150 dinner date. So how would they be able to hire an escort? Thats obvious to everyone except for the delusional 50/50 women and men. However if you’re an unattractive guy you should be okay with guaranteed free sex with an average woman. No, average women are willing to fuck anyone. Not just Chads. Hypergamous average women are not the same as regular average women, because the hypergamous women usually tend…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:54 AM
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So why did you ask me what planet do they exist on?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:31 AM
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No. You can easily date a woman that nobody else wants. If you want to go for women that every other man is going for, then you have to be prepared to compete again 10-100 guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:31 AM
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That’s my point. Most men won’t be able to afford to hire an escort even if it was legalized. Plus why would you do that when plenty of women are on hinge looking for casual hook ups and are willing to do it for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:29 AM
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There’s plenty in this forum that brag about how 50/50 and easy they are to please Take a 50/50 chick out to a coffee date, she will sleep with you just to prove she isn’t “high maintenance” or “prudish” like the other girls
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:26 PM
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That’s because some men still have standards and don’t want to settle for mid women- despite those women being free to access in comparison to the ones participating in sugar dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:25 PM
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You know 0 beautiful, high maintenance women? Lmao please show me a hott, fit but tastefully curvy, young Cuban, Colombian or Ukrainian woman that would date a 50/50 man. Don’t use an example of a woman that is average looking.. men don’t prefer average looking women. They are settled for. The women that have a ton of options due to being more beautiful than the average woman aren’t the ones that are willing to go 50/50 with an average joe. This is why the average man’s wife usually has belly fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:24 PM
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If he is settling for her, then I don’t believe he has to meet any of her financial/lifestyle/physical standards… because she has already failed to meet his. If you ask most men, the body type and facial features they want are often not found on their current partner. It’s usually found on women, that are out of reach for them.. because beautiful women usually have more options and they can be spoiled by any man. It’s harder to impress a woman that has received “princess” treatment by her former…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:18 PM
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If she’s average looking then she should be paying the majority of the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:55 PM
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So you think the women who get spoiled are poor? Or do you think they’re simply just worth spoiling? I’m glad you agree that the average woman is not worth a dime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:54 PM
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Did you pay back your husband for the engagement ring? Do you reimburse him for every present he buys? Gas money for every time he has to pick you up or drive you somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:09 PM
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They are. I’m just telling you that being settled for does not mean you’re a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:08 PM
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You already took the “bait” by admitting you’re not actually 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:05 PM
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Or they can just date a 50/50 woman and still get consistent intimacy and companionship, which is something that all men need.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:04 PM
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Nope. I guess this reply means you’re admitting that you still expect your husband to spend money on you. All you guys do is virtue signal about going 50/50, when it’s not actually 50/50 if he has to buy you presents or give you a free dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:03 PM
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Yes.. cause some of them still have to waste money on a woman that’s not worth it. You realize most women go berserk if you refuse to buy them any birthday/christmas/anniversary presents right? Or they get mad if you decide to spend your money on dancers, despite them being more attractive than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:02 PM
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It doesn’t matter because most women are not deserving to have any money spent on them in the first place. I hope you have never made your husband cover a dinner bill, or use his own money to buy you a present. Women should also be paying their husbands back for the money he spent on the engagement ring and etc. Because if you have, then you’re in the same boat as these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:00 PM
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Were you dating a 25 year old supermodel or miss universe? I truly doubt it. Most women are 50/50, they know that’s all they’re worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:59 PM
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Most men already do settle.. which is exactly why most women have to go 50/50. Men wouldn’t mind providing if our gf or wife matched our physical expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:58 PM
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This would imply that women aren’t actually okay with 50/50. 50/50 is financial 50/50. You shouldn’t slack on the chores or gain weight just because you are also working full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:57 PM
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Well in most relationships, men prefer to date younger. Why would a 40 year old man and 25 year old woman be making the same amount of money?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:54 PM
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Sure. Most men want a beautiful, young woman that’s fit with huge perky breasts and no stretchmarks. Those women usually don’t go 50/50 because they have options. You’re forgetting to mention that it’s only fair that women pull their own weight, cause the majority of men will have to settle. The average man’s wife does not live up to his physical standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:51 PM
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You can say the same about 50/50 women, who still do the majority of the cleaning and cooking. They rather go 50/50 and still be the homemaker instead of being single. If anything this should prove to you that men are the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:48 PM
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A successful man should be with a beautiful young woman. An average man should be with an average woman (she can’t be thin, or young, or beautiful). She’s just plain and insignificant
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:39 PM
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Dating is cheaper than onlyfans/sugaring etc because most women split the bill, and put out. Which onlyfans woman will sleep with you after you refuse to pay for her drink? Most long term girlfriends don’t even expect their boyfriends to cover the bill. They know deep down that they are not worth that much to him. You probably just go for hypergamous women, instead of independent 50/50 low maintenance types.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:11 PM
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My point is the girls on onlyfans actually make money, and they just post content. Men are paying for it. Whereas the average woman will never get a dime from the men she actually fucks, dates, etc. The average woman simply is not worth the $5-100 that men spend on subscriptions and customized videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:32 PM
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Men still spend more money on onlyfans than they do on relationships with average looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:27 PM
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Wouldn’t this mean that young women will avoid broke/short men for tall/rich ones (if that’s her preference) by a landslide?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:44 AM
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If this is the case then this just makes me laugh at 50/50 “independent” boss babe women even more. They’re dating a man that wouldn’t spend a dime on them but apparently there’s 300 lb chicks who can get money out of her man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:19 AM
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The men you get involved with do though.. which is why some women are spoiled and given a lot of effort and resources while other women have to go 50/50 or they would be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:23 AM
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Okay sure. You want me to believe that men would waste money on her when theres thousands of hotter Russian girls. Sophie Rain and Camila Araujo make real money on onlyfans, which is why they’re not gonna quit being millionaires because they feel like it’s “too much work” With your logic, 4s and 5s can be 10s?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:17 AM
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But she would be considered fat in Russia. Have you seen actual beautiful Russian women or no? She obviously wasn’t making a decent amount if she stopped. Why would someone subscribe to her when there are millions of hotter, slimmer Russians with nicer bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:29 AM
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So you admit most women are not worth providing for at all? Not even a free dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:18 AM
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How are 50/50 women getting the $$$? They’re paying because they know deep down that man would not ever treat her to dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:19 PM
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But he’s actually meeting with her in real life and sleeping with her for free…. The onlyfans girl, is clearly doing it as a JOB. Which is why you have to pay for a subscription. If a fat woman had to hire a male escort, she knows that they’re not in a relationship. If you have to pay for a chick to talk to you- you are not her bf and she does not like you. You may never even meet her in person. She won’t pump and dump you- because she won’t even chat with you.. she hired a chatter to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:18 PM
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Ok then you’re proving my point that women are virtue signaling when they say women and men are the exact same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:16 PM
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You’re the one who claimed she could make bank on onlyfans. How would she do this when she’s considered fat in her country?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:16 PM
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I don’t know what to tell you If an unattractive, fat woman believed she has a chance with a 6’4 Chad millionaire, you guys would say she doesn’t know who her looksmatch is or that her ego is inflated. It’s not a real relationship. You are paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:06 PM
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This is proof that men would choose parasocial transactional relationships over 50/50 ones with average women. Yet you guys think you are girl bosses by splitting the bill
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:03 PM
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Actually, it’s a large volume of guys paying her bills.. which is why they hire chatters. Only sugar daddies/provider bfs will pay for the majority of a woman’s bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:58 PM
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But that’s the point. If random hot or average chicks don’t approach you at the bar or on tinder then why does that all of a sudden change on onlyfans? The girl is there to make money.. she doesn’t actually want to chat with him. If he stopped paying he would lose all access.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:41 PM
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Okay and if an unattractive, fat woman told you a 6’4 handsome billionaire wants to chat with her online then you would call her delusional. Actually, how many unattractive women do you think are paying for onlyfans? If the genders are equally looksmatched then there should be the same amounts of men and women paying for these parasocial ONLINE relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:31 PM
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So the less attractive a guy is, the more he will believe that hott women are looking for him to flirt and chat with? Thats insanely delusional. Thats like a fat ugly woman who receives no attention in real life or online thinking that modeling agencies want to sign her. No, I don’t see how it can be fraud because most men have eyes. Look at the average man’s wife- that is proof enough that most men are not tall or rich enough to have random hot chicks online wanting to chat with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:14 PM
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Having a huge following on social media is how you make money on onlyfans… Again she has 10+ posts and barely any clicks. You can’t call Sophie average or unattractive if the chicks you’re posting can’t even come close to her numbers. Besides the numbers how would you explain Sophie being thicker than her, but having a slimmer waist, smaller nose and youthful appearance? How is the chick you posted gonna make money on onlyfans when plenty of other chicks on that platform have bigger perkier brea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:12 PM
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It should be common sense that a top model does not want to chat with an average joe. Go out and see for yourself- how many attractive women are walking around looking to flirt with average looking men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:40 PM
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Why should a man have to spend any money on a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:33 PM
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Sophie has millions of clicks, and a small waist… The chick you sent me has 10+ posts on YouTube… but most of them had less than 100 views. She wouldn’t be able to make money. She already shows her body and barely gets clicks and attention. Yeah it’s easy to say that when most women don’t have the option of making a dime anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:32 PM
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This is similar to sugaring. The young women you see either 60 year old men or fat bald men are not with them because they’re hott chads. Even the sugar daddies themselves know this. The girls on onlyfans are there to make money, they hire chatters to keep up with demand… it’s the same way you would hire a waiter at your restaurant instead of doing everything yourself… Do you go into restaurants thinking the owner wants to serve you for free or do you think they have a restaurant to make money? …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:27 PM
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You proved my point. Come back with a woman that has full lips. Large breasts WITHOUT the wide waist and belly fat. How would that woman make money when she’s competing against slim thick latinas with full lips and women like Sophie rain?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:20 PM
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Whoever that woman is knows what she’s doing. A lot of less attractive women will compete with attractive women by being the breadwinner in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:18 PM
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The sex industry is mostly women. Tell me this- how come the day clubs in Vegas only hire women as bottle girls and model bartenders? How come most sugar babies are women? Why are most IG models women and not men? If women are going to act like they are independent men, then you guys shouldn’t do anything that is biased towards your gender. This would mean all you “independent” women should be the ones asking and paying for dates, and also being the ones who propose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:16 PM
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Ehh, you guys will call anyone hott and then post a woman that has small breasts and belly fat. If you’re going to inflate women that would never have the chance of marrying a rich man, then you can’t be surprised about hoeflation or their delusional standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:13 PM
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She can choose another way to earn income- one that doesn’t highlight her femininity or her looks. If women are going to claim that they are the same as men- then they should enter the same industries that men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:03 PM
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Yes, they’re basically doing what onlyfans girls do for free. Probably because they are not attractive enough to sell the content, so they have to send it out for free to boost their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:00 PM
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If women claim to be independent then yes men are going to expect free content.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:32 PM
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You realize the ones who don’t have onlyfans usually send it to a bunch of guys they just met on hinge for free anyways? The nudes you guys send out to hinge guys gets shared to group chats and discord groups. Just so you know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:32 PM
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Yes and a lot of men don’t like the fact that pornstars are acting and get paid per video. We are told that it should be free and that the woman enjoys giving us free content
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:31 PM
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Because it costs money.. do you think a man would be mad if a woman sent him pictures and videos?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:54 PM
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Most men in this forum aren’t willing to pay for it. There’s sugar dating available yet most men complain about the $100 fee to sign up for a monthly membership
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:04 AM
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Most women don’t have the beauty to gold dig a dime out of me, you or ANY man (including her own bf or husband) so I truly doubt that will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:52 AM
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If we can both agree that the woman you posted should be free to access then you basically agree with my point. She’s not miss universe, or Sofia Vergara so women like her shouldn’t be expecting her husband to spend any of his own money on her during the entire relationship. This means no anniversary dinners or presents as well, Actual attractive women are worth spoiling and doing nice gestures for, average women aren’t worth that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:54 AM
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Ronaldo is attractive but he still spends money on Georgina, so your logic is flawed. You’re calling any average woman “attractive”, with that logic then yes I would still be able to get “attractive” woman for free but she’ll be flat chested or have belly fat. Thats called settling. The man you showed me isn’t dating a chick that looks like Shakira or Sofia Vergara so you proved my point. Average women with average jobs are free to access, for any man despite his attractiveness. How do you not u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:14 AM
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I doubt those women were attractive.. otherwise he would have married someone that isn’t flat chested. He settled for her since he is higher value than her. She’s average- stop inflating her, she wasn’t gonna be able to get a provider man anyways. If a woman has never been treated to a dinner by her husband or she had to pay for own engagement ring then he simply thinks she’s low value. It doesn’t matter what you or I think- her husband decides her value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:02 AM
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If that’s the case then why does Ronaldo spend money on Georgina? So you’re saying if a woman finds you attractive, you will be able to fuck her without ever having to spend money? And she will be okay with paying for her own engagement ring?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:38 AM
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If she was cheap to access.. meaning her husband didn’t have to do anything to court her. Then you basically proved my point. Why would a man pay for a hook up, if you’re claiming that most women are willing to give it up to every man for no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:21 AM
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Okay, and do you have proof that her husband had to spend any money or effort on her to get her? Would a man have to waste money buying a flat chested woman a drink or dinner to “get to know her”?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:10 AM
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She has no chest and her hair is thin and kind of short for a woman. Is that what you think men find attractive? He settled for her. There’s no way you think his first choice would be someone that’s flat chested.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:01 AM
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No it’s not lol. You are inflating average women by calling them attractive. Show me one teacher that looks like Shakira or Sofia Vergara. Because most average women I have seen- either have belly fat, a saggy chest, cellulite, stretchmarks, dark circles etc. Show me a woman that has perky huge 32DDD breasts, a small waist (24 inches max), a huge bum that is also perky, long legs, wide hips, skinny arms, no stretchmarks/cellulite/hyperpigmentation, clear skin, perfect white straight teeth, REAL …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:54 PM
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Because those “incels” don’t want average looking women. Most men have to settle. Look at the average man’s wife and gf and tell me if she looks like Sofia Vergara? Does she have Shakira’s body? Yes or no? If the answer is “no”, then you should understand why most women are free to access.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:30 PM
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Nope, the most attractive girls in college had sugar daddies or were hooking up with athletes and celebrities. The ones who hooked up for a $3 beer were low value compared to her peers. Literally anybody could fuck her, so why are you trying to make it sound like an exclusive thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:21 PM
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Most men do have to pay if they want an attractive woman… I already said the average women is usually free to access. It’s not about whether the man is a “beta provider”, it’s more about the woman’s worth being low enough that any man should be able to sleep with her. If you look at the average man, their gfs aren’t better looking than Priscilla. Most men date women that have belly fat and saggy chests- ofc you don’t have to provide for her. What if a man wanted to date a woman that was actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:13 PM
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Nope. Women are just delusional about their worth. Like I said, most women can’t be in the same proximity as a successful man where he would glance at her.. because they are even less attractive than Priscilla. Most women aren’t IG models. You can insult me all you want but that isn’t gonna change the fact that most women are perceived to be “free to access” because of her average looks and average background. They will never be able to find a man that will provide for her, or a man that will bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:03 PM
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Okay, where are these womens millionaire bfs then? Not sure why you’re propping them up when there’s no proof they have high worth or value. Again, Priscilla isn’t a good example because the majority of rich men have cute gfs and wives. Look at Georgina.. and tell me why most women can’t get Ronaldo to look at them? Average men telling you that you’re cuter than one 40 year old woman (Priscilla) doesn’t mean shit. It just means he wants to sleep with you (for free). Ask these men to provide for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:53 PM
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Not really. There’s enough “pick me” women around that are low maintenance, it’s just that most men don’t want them because they are average looking or give off desperate vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:12 PM
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They already are sleeping with men for free. What do you think a 50/50 relationship is? The thing is a lot of women think it’s serious and will end with a ring, whereas a lot of men will tell you he settled for her and is content with the free companionship she offers. Even if a man tells a woman this- she won’t leave the relationship because she is emotionally validated by him. What’s funny is women will make fun of stay at home moms for being “trapped” by finances, but a lot of 50/50 women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:05 PM
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I have heard women use this argument. But then they can’t explain to me why Priscilla Chan was able to get a billionaire while all they could attract are losers or men that would never give them a dime. You’re calling your competition “average” yet you are not able to get the type of man they can get. This is similar to when a woman calls herself a 10- yet no man thinks so. You’re not a 10 just because you said so. Unlike Priscilla, most women can’t bag Mark. Unlike Georgina, most women can’t ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:01 PM
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I never said that rich men have average looking wives.. I said the AVERAGE has below average/average looking wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:53 PM
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No they won’t, because they don’t want to pay. If they’re on tinder then they can already ask a chick to come over at night to hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:48 PM
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A man doesn’t have to pay shit for a normal woman. Yes you have to pay if she’s out of your league (IG model)or a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:46 PM
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Stop going for the top 10% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:44 PM
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That’s only true if you’re going for IG models. You don’t have to flatter or do shit for the average looking woman (90% of them) And most guys wouldn’t be able to afford an escort that looks like an IG model. Again, you are choosing to hook up with the top 10%…, high end escorts have politicians and celebrities as their clientele. The average man can’t hire one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:40 PM
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No, it’s because most American men are not willing to pay. Why would they when tinder for hookups exist? There’s already plenty of women tht have a price in Miami and Vegas… yet plenty of men there still have issues getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:33 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/mi0a1585fgwe1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55df2326b1b3736bf0321fbf64957ed1856e3be6 How do some man have this mentality when most of the women in here brag about how they will hook up with anyone (including men that are jerks to her) for funsies and for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:28 PM
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It doesn’t matter.. most men won’t sugar date, pay to play or hire an escort because it costs money. How do you know understand this? Lol Any man can easily get laid anytime he wants if he opened his wallet. Most men don’t want to hire a pro, because most average women are free.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:25 PM
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For all the prostitution should be legalized threads on here- we can only assume that average women have been virtue signaling all this time about how “sexually liberated, “low maintenance” and “easy to access” they are in comparison to the other girls that will admit they are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:24 PM
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Most men aren’t willing to cause the average woman is willing to fuck for $0.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:21 PM
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There’s already sugar dating.. where you can have casual, no strings attached sex as long as you spoil them. Most men can’t afford to spoil. Most guys in this forum can’t even afford to take a cute chick out, what makes you think they can afford to access her body? Which will cost more than food.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:20 PM
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Nobody said you had to be. Most average women are free to fuck. When I say free, I mean effort and cost. With escorts, you actually have to pay and follow rules (use protection etc and some have rules like no kissing) Sugar dating is pay to play.. you don’t have to pretend to be interested, you just have to give an allowance. Most men can’t afford it or won’t spend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:18 PM
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It depends. Hypergamous women aren’t with average joes. Look at the average man’s gf- she’s undesirable to most men. IG models aren’t “prostitutes” but they’re definitely not dating broke men… hence why average men have wives and girlfriends that are an eyesore in comparison. I already told you that most normal women are free. Which is why men aren’t spending money to date prettier women or sugar date. Legalizing prostitution isn’t gonna do anything, because the average man already can’t afford …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:16 PM
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There already is sugar dating where no woman is exploited. The simple fact is most men can’t afford it or refuse to pay. Most men in this forum won’t spend $20 on a first date, and you somehow believe they will spend $500-1000 to hook up with a woman out of their league. To do this 4 times a month, you would have to spend $2000 and always use protection. Whereas in casual hookup scene, you can fuck somebody for $0 with no protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:11 PM
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Okay, even if you just want a hookup.. what are the odds that it’ll be with an IG model? Like I said, plenty of average 50/50 women also just want to fuck someone. Not a relationship. And it’ll cost $0. Most IG models won’t fuck or have a relationship with most average joes. You will be competing with the top % of men. The average man can’t afford to compete with millionaires, or be able to pay to play
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:06 PM
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Stop going for IG models who have millionaires and sugar daddies (and doesn’t even follow you back on instagram or have your phone number) and go for average women that go 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:04 PM
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You don’t have to. A lot of women are just like men- horny and wanting to fck anything that has a pulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:46 PM
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Yeah it’s more fun because the girls on tinder are free… escorts charge you money. Regular girls pay for their own meals. That’s the actual reason why. And yes there’s usually a huge difference in looks- there’s a reason why it’s free. Most single women on tinder wouldn’t be able to get a dime out of a man in the first place. If you look at the average man’s wife- it’s an average woman that is not worth much in the dating market. Most men go for the bottom of the barrel to save money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:31 PM
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It’s not “crap”. Men will still search for casual dating with normal women because it’s significantly cheaper. Thats the real reason why One of the biggest complaints in this forum is that normal women are too average looking. Sex workers and sugar babies usually look better, any man that can afford them always say they’re the better option. But normal women that go 50/50 basically don’t cost a dime to sleep with…. That’s the only reason why men put up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:50 PM
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But there’s sugar dating and it’s pretty normalized where I live. It’s pretty much pay to play. Most of the guys in this forum have said they wouldn’t pay $50 for a first date.. what makes you think they can afford one hour with an escort that’s out of their league? Escorts use protection. There’s average looking women that go 50/50 and still sleep with you afterwards.. why would an average salary man pay for escorts when dating average women is more in his budget?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:48 PM
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If most men were that successful, they would have plenty of women chasing them instead. Again, $2000 is a lot compared to $0. Most women will split the bill and still sleep with the man afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:09 PM
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Those are the lower end girls. Why would they do $300-500 for overnight, when there’s men willing to pay more? You are seeking out lower end workers if she lacks high end clientele, which is fine but stop overflating their looks. Where I live, female bartenders in strip clubs can make more than $500 a night.. so yeah the women who would fail an audition to get into a bottle girl/bartender position would have to price herself cheap, to compete with higher end girls. Even then, a lower end escort …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:06 PM
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Which means they’re not going for women in their league. If an average joe wants to compete with a chad for the rest of his life- then we can’t blame the overweight, unattractive women that try to compete with fit, beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:40 PM
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Low value women aren’t getting a dime out of men, whether it’s for a casual hookup or in a long term relationship. Men and women see this differently. But it’s actually the 50/50 women that have less “worth”, which is why the men who date them refuse to pay anything for them. Average looking women need to carry their own weight in relationships, and hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:01 AM
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The hotter ones are more than $300 a hour. 300 is actually very low end, unless you’re only getting a massage or it’s 15 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:57 AM
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You don’t have to treat average looking women to nice things. That’s reserved for attractive women that can actually date millionaires and celebrities. If you’re a regular woman you are doing yourself a disservice by expecting men to treat you the same way that the top 10% of women are treated.. that’s what I mean by they are worth less (in comparison to other female peers). See that’s why women have inflated expectations that don’t match their worth. Why should a man have to buy a drink or two …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:14 AM
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The standard expectation of a date is that it’s supposed to be 50/50.. and if it’s a good man, the woman is supposed to appreciate that and go back to his place after.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:10 AM
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Most relationships are 50/50 so how is it not cheaper than an escort?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:09 AM
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Dude there already are girls that are pay to play- so tell me why onlyfans hasn’t crashed yet. Some girls on onlyfans also do meet ups.. men CAN pay for a meet up, or sign up for a sugar dating app (where it’s basically pay to play) But why would they do that if they can go on tinder/bumble/hinge where the women will go 50/50 and will most likely sleep with you on the first or second meet? Do the math. A lot of sugar dating apps cost $100 a month, or it costs to unlock messages. Meet ups cost $.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:25 AM
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There are already plenty of women that have a “price”, from bottle girls to dancers to onlyfans girls to sugar babies.. men can already be negotiating. I’ve seen a lot of women on instagram and tiktok say that they only date providers. Most men don’t want to take on a role where they have to spend money. They want to the woman they’re hooking up with to carry their own weight. Most men won’t be paying an escort $500, when most are not even willing to pay $50 for a first date that will lead to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:30 AM
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And a woman can get her own job and pay for own things instead of expecting her bf or husband to, and he shouldn’t have to buy her any gifts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:34 PM
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How many relationships are sexless? Whats the percentage? You can also say women are dating for free meals if they refuse to split the bill and be intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:24 PM
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Plenty of men take escorts out for dates too lol… they get paid by the hour. Some girls get paid for 3 hours.. includes dinner and intimacy. The point is if you’re a regular girl you should be okay with going to dinner and having intimacy, but the bill is split. And you realize men also think a date ended badly if there’s no sex right? So tell me again why should a man have to pay for a date if the woman isn’t gonna provide what an escort will, but she won’t split the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:21 PM
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Sugar dating is already legal and it’s almost the same. Plenty of men hire girls in vegas and Miami…. Through instagram. It’s not as uncommon as you think.. the price that it goes down to does not and will not ever compare to the average non sexworker woman being free. It will never be as cheap. If it was, most men would stop wasting their time on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:49 PM
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If you’re not lying then show me 5 supermodels that are dating an unattractive, broke man right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:29 PM
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How are you manipulating them if they just assume every man wants a relationship with them, by default? Lmao men can tell women they’re only looking for something casual, or a booty call and somehow these women will agree cause she thinks she’s special enough to change him and get marriage instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:28 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/v726sr8rj1we1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c55ed2650c72531583ba8eaddd45c71f8ebb0c11 Either this man is actually going for women that are attractive and calling them “average” Or women have been lying about them being independent and low maintenance.. if you are not a man’s dream girl then you should not be expecting him to pay for you at all during a date or relationship. Carry your own weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:27 PM
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You are not manipulating them.. they are simply assuming because they think a man wanting to sleep with them = he wants to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:25 PM
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You don’t have to “dangle” it. A lot of them will just assume it, which is why they sleep with men so easily. It’s a scam paying $500, if you could simply just split the bill and still get laid. Stop going for 32DD-24-36 instagram models that look like Kylie Jenner. Go for the type of woman that works in HR and has b cups and stretchmarks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:23 PM
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His point is- what’s the point of taking an average looking woman out if it’s gonna cost money? In that case, he can get a good looking sugar baby. The point is it shouldn’t cost the same to date a 5 and a 10. But he’s probably one of those men that only goes for cute girls, cause the average woman is definitely going 50/50 since she knows most men would not spend a dime on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:22 PM
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Do you have proof of this? How would they be able to get the man to pay for her dinner, if she doesn’t have the leverage to ask this of him? Again, most dinners will still cost less than an escort. Most men would rather pay $76 at Cheesecake Factory to get laid instead of $500..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:20 PM
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It would still cost nothing if you go 50/50 on 100 dates… and most women will put out in hopes of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:18 PM
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Because you are virtue signaling. If women don’t care about a man’s appearance then why doesn’t the 5’5, fat, bald unemployed man have a beautiful girlfriend? If a beautiful woman is gonna expect me to pay for dinner… and then an average woman expects the same then how is that fair for men? Shouldn’t average women be significantly cheaper than beautiful women? Especially if they aren’t “shallow”, then it shouldn’t matter if a guy asked you to a parked car date for the first date or to Dunkin’ Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:16 PM
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They are.. I’m talking about average women. Not the IG models who expect fancy dinner dates just for being pretty. 50/50 is the norm.. most women aren’t pretty enough to have a sugar daddy or provider man so what makes you think someone has to buy them a dinner for the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:14 PM
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Spending $30 to get laid, and possibly getting into a situationship (where you will have consistent access to sex and you won’t even have to commit) is not a shit time. If a man wants to get laid once a week, then he’s gonna have to spend $500 x 4. Instead of $30 once.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:12 PM
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This post is about escorts and hook ups. It doesn’t matter if she wants the famous rockstar, an average joe can still sleep with her for $0 or at most.. a cup of coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:06 PM
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Most dates are 50/50… how is the average man gonna pay $500 for an escort, when it’s cheaper to go on a date and get laid? Even if it’s not 50/50, you can take her to coffee or a taco stand. It would cost $30 max
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:03 PM
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No, you shouldn’t have to pay for an average looking woman that isn’t your sugar baby. So yes, they are usually easier to maintain because these women have lower standards and accept less than hypergamous women and escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:53 PM
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Most men absolutely do not pay in some way shape or form. Date an average looking woman… (any woman that’s not a celebrity, sugar baby or model) and she will have to go 50/50. Stop feeding into the delusion that men are supposed to pay for dates or buy presents for their wives, that’s reserved for women that look as good as Sofia Vergara only. If men stopped simping and treated a woman based on her actual worth, then it would cost most men $0 to access, date and marry these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:35 PM
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How so? If anything it’s red pilled men that feed into these women’s delusions about men being providers. Men are providers for beautiful women. Thats 10-30% of you. Men need to start being honest that the majority of women are supposed to be free in comparison to escorts. Thats the only way an average woman will be able to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:32 PM
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The dating market with average women IS the easy sex. A lot of men in here are simply going for women that are actually attractive, so she has options. Sex workers ask for money.. it’s 10x more expensive than the average woman who pays 50/50… whether it’s a hookup, situation, relationship or marriage. They don’t have the leverage to be asking a man to spend a dime on them.. however sexworkers won’t even entertain you if you told them that you won’t pay. Example: The escort will ask for $500 for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:08 PM
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Not exactly. The average woman goes 50/50, and has no leverage to be demanding anything more than that. Sex workers will cost infinitely more, since your gf will sleep with consistently for free .. and you can make her pay for her half of the dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:06 PM
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It’s not unless you have a lot of disposable income. There are plenty of women that are dating for something “long term”. Meaning you can easily sleep with them if you dangle commitment in front of them. Average women will sleep with a man for a plate of food and a cocktail. Escorts charge 10x more than that… they will ask for cash. Not food, validation, alcohol etc. Theres a reason why men will keep around lackluster women for consistent access to sex at a low cost… you have to specifically go …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:05 PM
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No. Simping costs $0. If you are a man that’s okay with an average woman, and you have an average salary. Then escorts will be too expensive for you, think about it.. most men in this forum don’t want to spend over $10 on a first date, or over $100 on their actual girlfriend. If you want an escort that’s at least a 7, it would cost $500 or more. The dancers in Vegas charge $1000 a hour for a VIP room- that’s not even hooking up. If a man can’t even afford to date an average looking woman that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:02 PM
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You’re virtue signaling. Look at the average man’s wife, and then look at a rich, successful man’s wife. It’s absolute bullshit when you guys claim that average joes can get 10s. And it’s bullshit when you guys claim the most beautiful women on earth will pick janitors over CEOs. It’s also absolutely bullshit that a lot of women think a 5 will be a man’s first choice. What if it’s simply because the beautiful women are not accessible to him, because they’re use to men that are successful and han…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:57 PM
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The average women would never be able to get a man that’s 5% as successful as Jeff Bezos. Or a man that would even be generous with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:00 AM
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Well yeah which is why lower maintenance women are seen as more accessible and easier to approach. We know that you guys don’t have as many options as high maintenance women, and that the main way you compete with them is by being lower maintenance. (Going 50/50 and receiving 0 gifts, understanding your cheaper value vs the women that expect their bf or husband to be successful and generous)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:59 AM
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It’s women who don’t understand this. Why do you think some men absolutely refuse to spend a certain amount of money on their basic looking gf? But they would definitely be financially seduced by someone else? It’s women who assume that it’s the second woman that’s perceived to be lower than her. This is why women who only attract lower men, think they are better than rich housewives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:50 AM
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It’s not, because she looks better and more fit than most women her age. There’s no way you think the average 50 year old woman looks better than her, or has better options than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:49 AM
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Look at the average man’s wife. Do they look like Sofia Vergara? Look at the average man who’s dating or married to a 50 yo woman.. does she look as good as Lauren Sanchez? Because average looking women don’t have as many options. If I wanted to date one, I would not have to put in as much money or effort into the date because she would not have anybody better to compare me to. Any man who can do better would choose a higher caliber woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 11:41 PM
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Not really. A lot of men in this forum agree that the average woman is perceived to be easy and cheap for men to hook up with. It’s the average looking women who assume that a man with financial stability and his shit together will take them seriously, when higher caliber women exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 11:39 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/h5v1ets5mvve1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05580d953524d43260ce7b7a05de0924b5013871 I wonder what women think when they see videos like this, and then constantly still brag about how much they get approached by men who want them to buy their own drinks/coffee on the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 11:29 PM
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If they are average looking, then yes they are significantly easier to access. Let me give you an example- an average woman is barely going to be glanced at, complimented or approached.. she’s the type that would have to accept coffee dates and etc or she would never have the opportunity to be taken on a date. Some of them will even put out, because they are not used to a man spending $5 on her. Most average women are pumped and dumped- you don’t necessarily have to even take her out on a coffee…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:48 AM
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I’m not talking about average looking women that are easy and cheap to access. The 28 year old woman who works in HR, is not attractive enough to get a successful man or sugar daddy in the first place. They’ll have to settle for coffee dates because no man would ever spend a dime on dating them. Most young professional women are not attractive. I’m talking about women that can actually make money off their looks, or they are already dating/married to a millionaire. She’s with an average joe with…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:40 AM
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If you don’t want to be kept then why would a man need to have a job to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:13 AM
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No, and that’s BS. There’s plenty of young, fit women here that are dating older, bald, fatter, shorter men. From Miami, to Los Angeles, to Dallas. Even in South America, beautiful Colombian sugar babies will date nerdy tourists that aren’t attractive because he’s providing for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:12 AM
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Do you think most women are dating handsome, rich men? There’s a trade off. I also know girls who have their body done, and always do their hair or makeup. Dressed in tight dresses and heels just to go to lunch or Whole Foods. These women usually are dating an older man or a less attractive man that is on the shorter side. They don’t care though because he is spoiling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:21 PM
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This is not what a girl boss is lol. Girl bosses are the ones who don’t want a man to pay, cause she needs to prove that she can be the breadwinner in a hypothetical relationship. These women usually think it’s a flex to sleep around with men who don’t invest or commit to her, and they also flex being a single mom and sole provider since being a girl boss is about how much you don’t need a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:17 PM
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Okay so why are these beautiful women too shallow to date broke, short, unemployed men? Women always say that you guys aren’t shallow or materialistic. So why does a man need a job or looks to date an attractive woman? What makes her better than him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:26 PM
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Exactly. These women have no idea how much we are willing to spend on attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:25 PM
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A lot of men can get a woman. But it won’t be the type that he will want. The most beautiful women are usually sugar babies.. they won’t date an average joe for free. Show me one fat, bald guy you know who is dating someone who looks like Sofia Vergara. And she is the breadwinner in the relationship. The women who expect a man to make more money than her and to pay for dinners have the same expectations the “prostitutes” do. If they didn’t they would be okay dating an unemployed man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:15 PM
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Most women don’t have to pay to play since men usually are more willing to engage in casual sex. Most sugar babies and sex workers are not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:04 AM
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Hott women are with successful, rich men. Average women are with average men. She can’t get Ronaldo for a reason. She can call herself a “7” but reality will show you she’s a 4, which is why she’s with an average joe instead of a millionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:43 PM
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No, you are simply overinflating them. They’re not “hott” if they can’t receive the pretty privilege that actual beautiful women get. Not all women get intimate with their “sugar daddies”, plenty of men would pay to go to dinner with an actual beautiful woman. (This is about 5% of the female population, don’t try to make it seem like the average man has a cute gf. Those women are average, which is why they have average lifestyles and are with an average man. No rich or successful man would ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:40 PM
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The girls who were getting run through in college for free by losers are not the attractive ones amongst their peers. The attractive ones had sugar daddies, dated with or slept with chads (rich, tall frat bros) and got flown out by athletes, rappers, actors, etc. The ones that let any man access them are not the “prime” I’m talking about. Look at the average college dude’s gf, it’s the type of girl that would be turned away from a hooters audition from being overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:33 PM
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No, I believe you definitely have to “bring something” to the table or else you will end up with a post wall woman. Why would a woman in her prime choose the man that has no resources/no car/no muscles/no looks over the guy that does? If it was that easy, every below average to average man would have a supermodel gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:23 PM
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I think their point is those men would be paired up with women that are also not impressive in any way (this means she can’t be attractive, educated, fit, sexually skilled, young, feminine, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:21 PM
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Most women aren’t getting attention from Ronaldo or Jeff Bezos. How many women do you know are dating millionaires? So the attention is worth nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:37 AM
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Yes and they’re sleeping with a lot of men. No, you guys seem to think every woman is a super hot IG baddie who has options, standards and is hypergamous. The average woman is a 50/50 liberal boss babe feminist that thinks it’s a flex that she fucks a lot of men for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 08:22 AM
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Nope, there’s actually a man that’s been arguing with me that beautiful women are paying for dates and fucking men in the car on the first date. And that it’s the broke, unattractive ones that have standards and won’t let you fuck immediately. And I actually have gotten into many debates like this… with women telling me that there are also plenty of women willing to for for $0/no commitment, and they also don’t care about looks. This means they are accessible to a majority of men, since they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 08:05 AM
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Most men have to settle.. the woman he ends up taking out might not be his 1st, 2nd or 20th choice. Why should it cost anything to date or be with a woman, that is average looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:10 AM
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That attention isn’t worth anything. Those men are only giving her attention because lower cost women are known to put out for attention. Whereas higher maintenance women require more work than that. Look at the type of man a woman marries or dates, if he has average status then it shows us she has low status (for a woman, low status means she’s the fat, unattractive, manly looking one in her group of friends) Women with value marry handsome, successful, tall rich men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:19 AM
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A “chubby chaser” is just a man who likes women that have some belly/arm fat. They’re usually still a size 0-4.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:18 AM
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The issue is most women’s time is not worth $20. Or even $5. This is why men are complaining. It shouldn’t cost a man any money to take a woman out, unless she is super attractive (hotter than 99% of the other women in any given room).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:17 AM
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It’s more like desirability match. Women that have less options should be paired up with men that also have less options. If you’re the type of woman that would be ignored by handsome rich men then what makes you too good for the unattractive guy that’s also ignored by beautiful, fit women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:14 AM
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The “attention economy” isn’t real. Any woman can get attention and sex. There’s only a small % of women that can get provision or commitment out of a man. They’re comparing themselves to the trophy wives who get a car as a push present, when they themselves split the bills with their husband and didn’t get a car for giving birth. They are realizing they are simply not worth that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:01 PM
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Btw no man has to deal with a “raggedy poor 304” when 304s charge money and your entire thread is you claiming that there are beautiful 23 year old supermodels willing to fuck random men in any car. If your logic was true, sugar dating/brothels/escorts/onlyfans wouldn’t exist since men could all could fuck Sofia Vergara after she paid for the date. You would have to admit your car date gal is not the 23 year old supermodel with high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:49 PM
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If she didn’t marry a millionaire then you proved my point. She’s an average woman with an average man dude. Stop acting like a degree makes women rich when half of them are still mid afterwards, or they got a bullshit degree that put them in debt. You proved my point. If she was actually worth as much as you were saying, she would have gotten a richer man. Sofia Vergara doesn’t cost $0 to fuck. Her husband is still likely more rich than the man that married your car date. I would bet she also d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:40 PM
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Not only that but average men keep inflating average women by saying they’re attractive. No, average women are dating millionaires, athletes, celebrities. If those men ignore her then she’s not worth anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:44 PM
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If men went for women in their league only, then there wouldn’t be that many women with 100 men after them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:18 PM
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In a way yes, that would explain women on dating apps ignoring their matches and messages
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:14 PM
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Mid women are transactional, their value is just less. This is why men go 50/50 with them, spend less on dates/relationships/marriages with them. And this is also why some men refuse to contribute financially to the kids they have together. Most women can’t attract a generous old fart… and they also can’t get commitment from a man their age. These are the same women who will have to pay for themselves on dates. You’re the one insisting that the attractive women are the ones that cost the least t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:27 PM
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“Internal validation” is just mid women telling us they are 10s…. Despite no man finding them worthy or any time, effort, resources or commitment. No, I already told you most women are cheap and free to access. There is no highest bidder for them. Like I said please look at the average man’s wife or gf. They are no Sofia Vergara. Actually my logic would keep hoeflation more in check because it’s based in reality instead of a woman’s “internal validation” telling her that she’s a 10 just cause sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:08 PM
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What makes you think that most women are worth that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:58 PM
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Below average (fatties) AND average women won’t be able to attract men that will be generous towards them.. because any man with common sense will know she is not worth a dime. You’re overinflating her value by saying she’s attractive or high value when in reality she’s just cheaper to access. It’s like when women say they choose to be single- but in reality nobody was asking them for commitment or marriage anyways. It’s not your choice. It’s the man’s choice. No man is paying for an average loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:50 PM
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Unless she looks better than Sofia Vergara- I don’t believe you would pay the bill. Or you’re simply overinflating her value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:44 PM
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It’s not about if a man is a sugar daddy or not. It’s simply that most women are worth less, which is why she has to pay. If men had to pay for dates, they would only go for attractive women… if you look at the average man’s wife- she’s no Sofia Vergara. So yes, why should a man have to spend any money to date her at all? All relationships can be considered transactional, it’s just that a lot of women are $0 or $10 compared to actual, beautiful women that turn heads. Thats why it wouldn’t make s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:42 PM
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Nope. Your example is exactly why incels shouldn’t exist. 90% of women simply aren’t attractive enough for a man to spend any money or effort on them. They act like it’s their choice when in reality, no man has decided they were worth a free meal in the first place. Unless this is a top 10% woman, then I rest my case. She wasn’t gonna get a free dinner from you, from Chad or from Joe either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:37 PM
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Yes, but the people they are attracted to (you in this case) decided she is not worth a dime. This tells me she can’t be the 10 she claims she is. And that she must suck in bed, that the men she sleeps with decides she deserves less than a sex worker or kept girlfriend. Idk why you’re inflating their values. Your actions already show me what type of woman they are. It’s not about their income lol.. hott women can always get men to pay for them. She simply doesn’t have that choice. Are you really…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:33 PM
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Yes, but most fatties aren’t sugar babies. Men aren’t spending a dime on them- despite them putting out in a car. It’s okay though, the women that are free to access will just get ran through while they hate on wives, girlfriends and sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:32 PM
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Yeah, those aren’t the women that are worth bragging about. Idk why you’re inflating their value. They are worth less than the women that actually deserve a free meal. Again this would imply they cost way less than a prostitute. They don’t require commitment or payment. The man who’s fucking them doesn’t even want to take her home- she’s simply not worth cleaning the sheets for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:30 PM
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No, I’m saying she’s not attractive due to how men treat her. Again, fatties always claim they’re 10s on here. But the men they choose won’t even spend on a dime on her. That’s for a reason. It’s not her choice, it’s the man’s choice whether she is worth spending on or not. You already told me she gave it up, and that she wasn’t worth a nice restaurant to you. What would this imply about her body? That it’s simply worth less than other women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:28 PM
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Sure. But the pics don’t matter because her reality already tells everything I need to know. You can call her a 10. She can also claim to be a 10. But there’s a reason why she can’t get a man to be generous with her. There’s a reason why you pumped and dumped her- despite her being free to access and keep around. She’s simply worth less than objectively attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:25 PM
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Some of those women are not worth that much, so of course they can’t be taken out to a nice dinner in the first place. I have seen the average man’s gf- that’s exactly why some men are johns. They rather pay for women that are beautiful instead of settling for free use women. Let’s not be delusional. No LA/Vegas/Miami 7,8,9,10 is gonna go 50/50 or give it up that easily. If it was, every unemployed incel would have a gf that looks better than Sophie rain that pays for everything. You are leaving…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:22 PM
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u/freevoulous - here’s an example of free use women. If you went for women who have low standards and expectations like this man then you would realize that sexbots are a waste of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:16 PM
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But this gives them more opportunity to cheat on their boyfriends while getting away with it. I see your theory but I’ve also seen this in practice- she can easily sleep with someone else and risk the relationship especially if you guys are going 50/50. If she doesn’t need you sexually or financially then you can’t really be the only one she dates or sleeps with. This is why average men always end up competing with Chads for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:09 PM
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This is not true, because the women that are worth nice places will get that paid for. If a man is asking her to go 50/50, she’s not a prostitute. She’s worth less. There’s a reason why nobody wants to take her to a nice restaurant and pay for it. Because they require payment while she gets ran through for free. It’s funny how you’re trying to give them credit for being smart enough to get a free meal in the first place, but then you say you pumped and dumped them. And they did it for free. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:03 PM
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Providing is how men compete. If we take paying for things completely out of the equation then this means most women would only go for conventionally handsome, tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:00 PM
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It’s because nerdy men want a nerdy woman that looks like Sydney Sweeney or Madison beer
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:59 PM
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Yes, most men are settling. It’s only women that are in denial of this. Look at the average man’s wife/gf… tell me how that’s not settling. Women like to hype women up by telling them they’re all 10s. I’ve never been willing to pay for a date for most women I’ve taken out. But would I pay anything for a beauty like Sofia Vergara? Yes. But the average woman is worth a lot less compared to her. Why would a man provide for an average woman? You can be in denial all you want. But I even have married…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:00 PM
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It depends. No man is choosing the less hot option on purpose. It’s because he can’t afford beautiful women, cause they’re usually not cheap and easy to access. If women stopped being 50/50, they would be able to tell if they’re being settled for. No man in their right mind is wasting $25 to buy his gf a meal when he’s settling for her. Women can’t grasp that some of them are only taken because they are free to keep around. They can’t grasp that other women, that are beautiful have a lot of requ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:04 PM
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It’s pretty obvious. If he isn’t willing to provide 100% for you it’s because he’s settling. Most women are the 50/50 independent boss babe type so you guys will walk straight into the “trap” of being settled for. Every day there’s a woman on here arguing that she’s better than everyone else for being cheap to access and low maintenance. When in reality her husband settled for her so why would he be spending xyz on her anyways? A lot of men won’t give up guaranteed, consistent sex and companions…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:58 PM
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You are erasing the majority of women. There are tons of women that will sleep with any man that gives them validation. There doesn’t have to be 7 women to 1 man to make this happen, because the ONE woman that is easy and free to access is usually available to anyone, including the men you claim “can’t attract anyone”. They can’t attract beautiful women or the top % of women. They can’t attract hypergamous women that have standards The majority of women are liberal, feminist independent 50/50 bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:56 AM
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So if he’s skinny fat with a beer belly then does this mean he also belongs with a woman that looks like that as well? The thing is men with beer bellies can still have nice faces, but women can’t. So it’s lopsided
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:46 AM
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What’s the lowest income race? Does race or income really matter if the man won’t provide in the first place? It doesn’t matter if he makes $10 or $10000 a month if everything will be split 50/50 anyways. I’ve noticed even Gen z/millennial alt right caucasian men are going 50/50 nowadays and making their wife work after having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:32 AM
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What if his face is decent looking and he has those long eyelashes that women like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:11 AM
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Do women think it’s green flag when men invite them over so fast to cook them dinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:00 AM
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Ok so what if he has dark eyes? Or is it about the jawline? Why is profession not relevant when they’re gonna be making good money as a doctor in 2 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:56 AM
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What would a 31 year old, middle eastern, 5’10, skinny fat beer belly man that’s a resident physician be looksmatched with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:35 AM
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She will have no problem dating then. What’s your point? Most women aren’t beautiful so they will have to use makeup and etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:55 PM
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Sure but most women aren’t as beautiful as Cuban and Colombian models. So now what? Idc if a woman has a career, that doesn’t mean she looks as good as Sofia Vergara. She still has unrealistic standards if she expects men to pay for anything while dating her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:39 PM
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Yeah, maybe she’s considered beautiful by other women but not to men and society, in general. You can call yourself a 10, but if men, modeling agencies, pageants and the internet rejects you then where’s the proof that OTHER people actually find you beautiful?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:38 PM
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But what it means is that these women shouldn’t expect a man to spend any money on her for a date, relationship or marriage. Thats reserved for attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:10 PM
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That’s my point. They’re not Sofia Vergara so what justifies their unrealistic standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:34 PM
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Let’s see how she looks like. Because ive noticed sometimes you guys will say you know a “slightly unattractive” woman that does x y z, but she still looks better than the average man’s gf. The average man’s gf is mid and overweight.. there’s a reason why taken men seek out sugar babies and onlyfans the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:40 PM
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The girls on dating apps are rejects lol. The hott girls get approached whenever they go out. The OF girls look good enough for men to pay them. The girls on dating apps aren’t even worth a coffee. They literally brag about that here. What makes you think they’re so attractive when no man would ever spend on them or cold approach them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:58 PM
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I do believe average women can go on dates and get married. But that doesn’t mean those men are wasting money on them. And if they are, it’s a shame.. there’s literally hott women that work as hired guns or that are sugar babies that would deserve that money more. A woman doesn’t deserve to have her meal paid for just because you two are dating, especially if you had to settle for her and she is below average compared to other women. What makes her more deserving than women that are actually bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:49 PM
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The thing is a man would not want to pay for an average looking woman, because she is not worth that. Keep reading your romance novels though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:38 PM
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Why would a man want to pay for something that is not worth much and should be free?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:32 PM
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You don’t understand that some attention from an attractive woman that we yearn for, has a lot more value to us than a woman we had to settle for. Sure, it would be great if the younger attractive woman wanted us for us and not our money. But sugaring gives men a way to fill a void, especially when a lot of them settle in marriage. You must have no idea what the average man’s wife looks like.. they’re no Sofia Vergara.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:31 PM
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They will lol. There’s plenty of sugar babies and hott women on sugar dating apps, or women that are working as dancers and looking for a sponsor. The average girls saying they won’t do it for $$, but will let Chad run through them for $0 are not the women that men care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:29 PM
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Reality isn’t the romance novels you read where skinny fat women with huge noses are getting asked out on dinner dates. At best, she can have a relationship as long as she pays for herself, doesn’t expect gifts, and is always easy and cheap to access.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:26 PM
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Because like the other woman said.. they’re still low value because of their job. It wouldn’t be their place to feel entitled to a hotter man. They’re just a waitress. They should be glad if anybody asks them out- including a cashier at GameStop.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:24 PM
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So what? If he’s in a relationship, he can still easily fuck other women. Even have threesomes etc. I never said he has to stick to one, my point was there’s always gonna be plenty of women that are free to access and they’ll do all of what I listed for free without a relationship. Why would you spend $200+ on a sexbot when you can spend $0 and just sleep with multiple women? Who will clean up the house after? Because you are focusing on the small % of women that care about a man’s appearance an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:23 PM
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Ok where’s the proof she’s beautiful? Does she have a rich man? Does she have actual pretty privilege or is she just claiming to be a 10? With your logic any woman can claim she’s beautiful- meanwhile Instagram and tiktok and modeling agencies would say she’s unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:21 PM
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Is she an IG model? Does she have a rich man? Where’s the proof that she’s pretty? Just because a feminist said so or because a man would sleep with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:42 AM
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It’s not the same… most men would prefer to relieve themselves with a female partner. Why would he waste money on a sexbot when these women will do it for free, and they would most likely also do the dishes, clean his house and cook for him for free as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:29 AM
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There’s plenty of short IG models. My point was most women can’t be any type of model or get a successful man because she is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:27 AM
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She can’t be an IG model either.. the point is she can’t be in any position that’s only reserved for beautiful women. No man is wining and dining her. No man glances at her twice- she’s someone that they settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:10 AM
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This is because feminists will tell you they’re both in the same league (they’re just trying to virtue signal that a man’s wealth, status, and appearance doesn’t matter. But it does)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:36 AM
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No it won’t. Why would a man spend money on a sexbot when there are plenty of women that are free and easy to access? Keep in mind they won’t be attractive women, they’ll be average looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:31 AM
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No, there’s no point in men contributing to society if they have to end up with anything lower than a 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:29 AM
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Look at the average man’s gf or wife.. they’re relatively unattractive and fat when compared to Sofia Vergara. Basically, it’s women that are free to access.. that aren’t good enough to get a successful man that could afford to take her to dinner. Basically it’s the type of woman that has no choice but to date an average man, because successful men look down on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:27 AM
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You said “The reality is that unless you are visibly deformed, there is definitely a guy who would be attracted to the “natural” you (no make-up, fancy clothes, lip fillers, botox, etc).” Which is not true. That guy wouldn’t be attracted to her. He would be settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:00 AM
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Average men deserve attractive women. Nobody should be settling for average women unless you are below average as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 09:55 AM
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That’s called settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:19 AM
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Those men are called simps. Becoming friends with a woman won’t magically give her a hourglass body.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:15 AM
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No. I just believe in reality and social proof. You’re not an attractive woman just because some simps want to sleep with you. You either have proof through your job, pretty privilege or your husband’s status (and him deeming you worthy of being taken cared of and spoiled). If hooters deems you unattractive, all successful men deem you unworthy then where’s the proof that you are “pretty”?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:12 AM
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Do not lie to them. Most men won’t actually be attracted to them. They would simply be settling for them because they have no other options. Average women are average. It shouldn’t be normalized for men to pursue these women, when biologically men are attracted to the most beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:07 AM
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You realize most bottle girls wear makeup right? Most men would be in the same league as them, if they weren’t delusional about their value. So no, if they were reasonable they would date incels as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:04 AM
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No they’re not. This is the type of delusion that keeps women single. Most of the girls on OF look better than the girls on dating apps. It makes more sense to give those women $10 for pics, than it is to spend $3 on coffee for an average woman that should be buying her own cup of coffee on the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:03 AM
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Nope, women need men. Not the other way around. Also, women can become physically attracted to a man if they build a bond. For men, she either fits his type or doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:02 AM
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No they wouldn’t. That only happens in the romance novels that women read and believe are real. If you are average then you can not expect a man to spend on you. You are not worth that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:59 AM
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Internal medicine
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:58 AM
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I am not gonna play the feminist game of pretending that a 300 pound woman and Sofia Vergara deserve the same types of dates. The problem with red pilled men is that you guys delude women into thinking they are worth doing x,y,z for. When in reality, they are not. Thats why the majority of them are going 50/50.. no man deems them worthy of spending a dollar on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:56 AM
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It doesn’t matter. Men are visual creatures. Men do 99% of the approaching. Men are the ones that do the majority of the work in society and in relationships.. so we deserve an Angelina Jolie whether we are a doctor or a cashier at GameStop. Most women are not Angelina… and you wonder why most men are opting out of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:54 AM
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If it’s not a prestigious job then why do hott waitresses have the nerve to turn down incels? Let’s say those women are low value because their job is seen as “low value”, then why do they turn down men who ask them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:53 AM
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It doesn’t matter. That doesn’t mean their husband isn’t settling for them. I agree with you that a female lawyer can marry another male lawyer. But he’s most likely settling for her. Just because she’s a lawyer does not mean she’s hotter and more fit than Miss Colombia. Do you understand this? Following your logic, why doesn’t every incel have a bottle girl gf if they’re that low value in the dating world? Why doesn’t every successful man have a 10 on his arm? Men are forced to settle. Most men…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:50 AM
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No, they’re not. Most men settle. Just because a woman is easy and cheap to keep around.. you’re gonna assume it’s because she’s attractive? No. She’s just easy and sometimes we don’t want to work hard for something that is not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:28 AM
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And I would bet $100 that their husband prefers looking at the Cuban bottle girl more than them. But I know you women are delusional and think no man can ever find a woman more attractive than you just because she’s a cocktail waitress or a dancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:25 AM
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Yeah sure, if it was that easy then most women would be insanely fit with huge boobs. Yet most women in the states aren’t even fit enough to pass a modeling audition… Most Americans are skinny fat. Look up the cocktail servers at encore beach club.. most mens girlfriends and wives are not as fit as that. Most men will have to settle. Which was my point. No female doctor has ever come close to a Cuban bottle girl in Miami. I’m not surprised that you’re a woman bashing beautiful women with hourgla…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:24 AM
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If it was that easy, then why do most women fail the auditions? If you want me to believe that all women have 36DD-24-34 measurements then you’re delusional about how the average female doctor looks like. Also, these women are insanely fit. It’s funny you think they have no skill when most women can’t even come close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:21 AM
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A bottle girl at encore Las Vegas makes more than a doctor. Thousands of women fly out to audition and only 30 pass. The older women you’re talking about wouldn’t pass in the first place. This is also why they also failed at getting a rich, successful man to love and take care of them. She couldn’t be a waitress at that club if she wanted to, because she simply wouldn’t make that cut. It’s also obvious she wouldn’t since she can’t even attract a successful man, what makes you think she would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:18 AM
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Because theyre only “drop dead gorgeous” to other straight women that are fake woke. They wouldn’t be considered “gorgeous” in comparison to the women that men actually spend money on or admire. Most female doctors are old or are skinny fat, with saggy breasts. It’s obvious you have never seen what a bottle girl in Miami or Vegas looks like. They have low body fat percentages with huge round perky breasts. Not the skinny fat round stomach thing that you women hype up in other women….
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:15 AM
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Men aren’t physically attracted to every woman they date or marry either. It’s only women who assume that, most men will only admit this to other men that they’re settling
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:13 AM
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She couldn’t be one, even if she wanted to lol. Most women don’t pass those auditions. You realize those women have to be super fit while still have a big ass and tits right? Most women don’t have an hourglass figure, so no they’re not attractive just because their girl friend says they are. Being intelligent or having a degree does not mean you are physically attractive. Women have no idea what men find attractive. There’s a reason why she’s a nurse, that is single. She couldn’t get a rich man …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:12 AM
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Then he can settle for an average looking woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:04 AM
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If you are gonna call any average woman “pretty” just cause- then you can’t blame women for having big egos and developing unrealistic standards. She’s not a model, for a reason. She has no man taking care of her, for a reason. You can claim she’s a 10. Reality will show her that she’s a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:53 AM
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Those nurses you’re talking about usually aren’t the attractive girls amongst their peer group. Again, they wouldn’t make it past a bottle girl audition in the first place.. just like how they wouldn’t even get accepted as a golf cart girl. They’re average women.. hence their average lifestyle. Those incels have no “options” because they want attractive women. Men, in general want attractive women.. we don’t necessarily want to settle for an average one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:45 AM
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Anybody can get an average looking woman.. they’re average for crying out loud. They are not used to being wined and dined, or even used to getting compliments, so they have lower standards. Those women however are not partaking in the activities that OP listed. Pretty women get jobs like bottle girl, model etc. They wouldn’t be a nurse unless they are older or have no options (no man wants to take care of her because she is unattractive, and she would be rejected from any job where her appearan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:32 AM
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No, I’m not being sarcastic. Sorry but I don’t buy it that you’re a doctor, but have no luck dating. Are you trying to date women like Kylie Jenner, who has access to actors and millionaires?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:23 AM
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Speak for yourself. If a woman is gonna expect a man to pay for the dates then she should at least have better breasts than the majority of women in the room and be better dressed. Otherwise what’s the point in paying for her meal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:21 AM
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This is a delusional take. The only women that have it easier are the ones that are blessed with a nice symmetrical face and a hourglass figure. They’re the ones that men do things for, and will spend on. The rest of you will have to pull your weight, meaning a man should not have to spend a dollar to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:20 AM
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This is BS. If you’re making a good salary, you should have access to the hottest, youngest, fittest women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:18 AM
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Women who read nothing but romance novels and smut, will delude themselves into thinking that men will spend money to date them.. when they are not worth that much. If you are not hotter than 90% of the women in the room.. then you should not be setting your standards up that high unless you are ready to be single for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:02 AM
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I disagree. You only have to look good if you expect a man to pay for the dates. If you’re an independent 50/50 woman like what most of you claim to be then any man would be open to dating you as long as you regularly put out and don’t demand any gifts or finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:51 AM
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Do you genuinely believe men are attracted to every woman they watch in porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:22 AM
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Unless your sister is IG model hott then I doubt this. Most women will settle for a burger and a beer, why would a guy over spend?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:27 AM
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How much do resident doctors actually make? Know this girl who’s in her second year who constantly whines about how $150 is too much for her to spend on her appearance- yet she expects men to pay for the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:25 AM
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Because there are actual statistics that back up the correct sides of these arguments. It’s women that have the low ass standards that they keep accusing men of. Think of all the women you know that give it up for nothing- they are essentially marketing themselves as the cheaper alternative to a street walker. While they bash the women that actually require a ring and commitment before having a man’s kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:24 AM
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Thanks. You just described hoeflation. This is why men are opting out of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:00 AM
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Yes but women expect the guy to assume she’s not free. But if she doesn’t explicitly say it then she will be seen as free and accessible to anyone. Men know it’s transactional, there’s a reason why richer men usually have better looking girlfriends than the average man. It’s women that are in denial about any type of transaction going on- yet they get offended when a man tries to get their body for 0 effort/dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:05 PM
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Because then some women will realize they are cheap, and then some men will realize that it’s a reflection of them (how valuable their wife or gf is perceived in society)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:59 PM
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You realize that all fat women have bigger breasts by default because they have a bigger everything right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:31 AM
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Yes they are. The one you like isn’t proportional.. because she is big everywhere. Do you understand that? Your breasts are supposed to big in comparison to your waist and arms. Your arms and waist are supposed to be a lot smaller than your boobs. And they’re not supposed to sag.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:25 AM
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She has a smaller waist than the other woman and her boobs don’t sag all the way down to her stomach. If that’s the case you can’t complain about hoeflation. The first woman is an average woman who can only live an average lifestyle. This second woman is a model and influencer because men actually find her attractive, instead of settling for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:48 AM
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Those are big boobs because she is skinny. Big boobs don’t count if all of them is fat/big. You shouldn’t be giving overweight women credit for having fat everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:47 AM
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Plenty of skinny women have curves. They’re skinny in the stomach area but big in the ass and breast area. If you have belly fat then you are not skinny and your “curves” don’t count.. it’s just fat https://preview.redd.it/7lnjrvz9kzle1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=162274ebbfba71b36e82db3691c259a8b6604bcf If you have big breasts, your waist is also supposed to be skinny. And your breasts should be round, not sagging downwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:04 AM
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No they don’t. Plenty of women have big breasts that aren’t saggy, and they aren’t fat either https://preview.redd.it/9rlj3c44kzle1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d8ebbdb20d4a4b85a5aa19120b7b84acef5104e
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:03 AM
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This woman is not skinny. And the woman I posted has a waist that’s boxier and bigger than this. If we are gonna call overweight women “skinny” then it only makes sense why 4s think they’re 9s now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 01:53 AM
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Natural is not better if it’s saggy. There are plenty of skinny women that have bigger, rounder, perkier breasts than chubby women. They only have breast fat because they also have belly fat. That cancels it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 01:52 AM
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But our mom’s appearance doesn’t r stay the same at all. You realize men can lose attraction when your looks change or gain weight right? How you looked 20 years ago is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 12:38 AM
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Our moms are in their 40-50s. I’m sorry but there’s no way a man would choose them over anyone younger. It wouldn’t matter if he was married to her for 5-20 years, she’s still less desirable and less attractive than any average 20-30 year old woman that our dad could date right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 12:09 AM
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Not necessarily. The average man’s wife doesn’t look that good so by default I would argue that most of our moms weren’t good looking. There’s a reason why some women were provided for back in the day, and why some already had to work (in a time where it was normal for husbands to provide) The attractive women never ended up having to work. The mid ones did work or got divorced and weren’t able to remarry. There are a lot of divorced women past the age of 40. What could have happened was their h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 11:19 PM
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There are a lot of couples like that though, but they are matched. Danny Devito is successful so I’m not sure why you’re implying that Scarlett is above him. She’s no supermodel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 11:16 PM
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Where’s the proof that those women are more attractive than their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:13 PM
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This is common sense. Look at the average man’s wife. Most men can’t get a conventionally attractive or fit woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:13 AM
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Yes. It’s also attractive when women have natural breasts that are big, round and perky. Doesn’t matter. As long as it’s big, round and perky. Doesn’t matter, as long as she doesn’t have thin lips. If it’s natural then that’s better. But plumped big lips > natural thin lips Depends. Is she fat? Depends. Is she fat? It can be a real tan or a fake tan. Any tan > pale skin Yes. Average women are shown their value through their reality. No. Because men are contributing to hoeflation At the end, yes.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 07:33 AM
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Nope. I’ve noticed it’s mostly fake woke feminists who will try to lump those two groups of women together. They hype up overweight women because they don’t have to compete with them in the dating market. But they feel threatened when it’s a skinny woman with big breasts (whether it’s natural or fake). I’ve also seen women accuse other women of getting bbls just because they are not flat like them. Some women have also told me that any woman with long hair has hair extensions. If a woman is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 07:28 AM
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Because you’re basically telling overweight women that they are skinny with big tits if they’re gonna tell them they’re the same as the women I have posted. Women always hate on women for “fake” features even though they lack the natural one themselves. Why doesn’t she go get the work done if she’s so financially independent and can afford anything she wants since she’s a boss babe?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 07:15 AM
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See. This also contributes to hoeflation. You somehow think skinny women with big perky breasts are in the same category as overweight, bad built women with saggy breasts. This is exactly why they think they are 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 07:04 AM
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Okay so your logic is “if mark zuckerbergs wife can get a statue commissioned for her then a fat woman can say she’s a 10”? Thats contributing to hoeflation. If men continue to do this then they can not complain when women rate themselves higher than they actually are. If I dated a fat woman with saggy boobs I am not gonna lie to her by saying she looks like VS model Adriana Lima.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 07:02 AM
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But their “fake” features still look better than the features of the women that men hype up and overinflate. My point is if you’re gonna bash these women, then you would have to admit most women are 3s in comparison. But men don’t. You validate them by giving them a relationship, something that should only be reserved for attractive and fit women (that still have boobs and ass that don’t sag)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:57 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/9q7d7sf3vtle1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5845f858c2c5e89677f1b7b5a2b11102ac2cb61b Small waist, big boobs that don’t sag. Toned, skinny arms. Those are 3 things that most women lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:54 AM
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The average woman doesn’t have nicer facial features than her. There’s a reason why she’s a model and the average woman is getting pumped and dumped by Chad and can’t even get a man to take her on a date. Average women can keep screaming that they’re a 10. Their reality will humble them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:53 AM
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Most women have bigger arms than her a smaller hip to waist ratio saggier tits or smaller bigger waist/belly And you guys still hype them up. I’ve seen the average man’s wife and gf. You have too. Most of them don’t look better than this, simply because most American women have a way bigger waist. If they have bigger tits then it’s usually saggier and they’re on the chubbier side.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:52 AM
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She’s a model. Most women are mid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:48 AM
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Hers aren’t that big. But look at how she has a small waist and it doesn’t sag. There are women that still have smaller or saggier breasts than her but they are 3x fatter. Why do they get to be hyped up as 10s?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:46 AM
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Do you think all women with natural boobs look like this? They don’t. Which is why they hate on women like her and hype up the overweight ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:45 AM
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Here’s a Northern European woman that has a nice body. Notice how she’s not overweight and doesn’t have a saggy chest? https://preview.redd.it/0s06ewh7ttle1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd49763afd4c71081a199b29c534e2dab42af71a
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:43 AM
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How come you didn’t show me a picture of natural big tits that look better then? Send me a woman that has big tits, but aren’t overweight (no belly fat, no wide waist) and her breasts don’t sag all the way down to her stomach. I’m not gonna praise a woman simply for being natural. That doesn’t mean she looks good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:39 AM
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Okay? The majority of women are mid and average looking. I never claimed otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:38 AM
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Women wouldn’t be getting plastic surgery like lipo if men preferred fatties. Women wouldn’t get boob jobs if men preferred flat chests or saggy chests. Why do you think there’s something called a breast lift or mommy makeover? Where women take off the saggy tummy skin. Why would they do this if men preferred that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:30 AM
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Show me natural big tits that are still perky and round. Just because a woman has tan skin, does not mean it’s a spray. You assume all women are pale? And some women have full lips. Not everyone has thin lips. You are describing mid women that don’t have any positive features.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:18 AM
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You guys call any woman that isn’t overweight or flat chested a Barbie sex doll. But then simp for women that Chad would call a landwhale. It doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:10 AM
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It is common lol. Or it’s more common than what WOMEN claim is beautiful to men (overweight women, women with small or saggy chests). It’s really funny to me that women hate skinny women with big breasts so much. You guys also hate slim women that have big booties. But you’re okay with women that have average bodies (she doesn’t have an above average waistline, hips, ass, tits or legs) it’s almost as if women have to downplay their competition and gaslight men into preferring 4s over 9s. There’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:06 AM
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This is the most likely. It’s also women with single moms that constantly shit on women that men provide for or take on dates, because their mom didn’t get that treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:59 AM
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It is. Men give eachother kudos when their gf looks better than the average “normal” body. Any woman can have a small chest, big waist or saggy chest. It’s not special. Again, most men have to settle. It doesn’t mean the woman they settle for is their preference. The women that have more options, are harder to get because of the competition and her higher standards. It’s easier to date a woman that other men would not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:57 AM
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I have noticed that most guys on here would say they don’t wanna be settled for. Whereas women pretty much brag about it (they’re unaware of how much men settle. Men put in less effort when they settle. But women clock this as “he’s just letting me an independent woman” when in reality he doesn’t want to invest that type of time, effort or finances into someone he only feels neutral about)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:54 AM
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Men are expected to plan and pay for dates. Do you know how much a man spends on engagement/marriage? Why would he do all of that for a woman he’s not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:24 AM
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Not really. There are women with big boobs and ass with a small/waist/back/arms. Most women that are overweight have belly fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:38 AM
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No, they find those women okay enough to have sex with. This does not mean he is attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:30 AM
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Why don’t those men deserve attractive women? Men put in 90% of the work for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:30 AM
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They are contributing to hoeflation as long as they are making those women feel as if they are on the same caliber as beautiful, fit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:27 AM
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<image> That’s what big boobs should look like. Not on a huge waist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:06 AM
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They both have big boobs.. but one is saggy and not round. SHES literally overweight and boxy. One has a job where you’re required to be hott.. none of the girls there have saggy tits. Doesn’t matter if they’re big, why are they not round? Why are they low on her chest?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:06 AM
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What’s considered fat? It doesn’t make sense that men on here claim 40-60% of American women are fat but then when I post an overweight woman, they will say she looks the same as the skinny women I post. If there’s no difference between a size 2 with big perky boobs and a size 10 with proportional saggy boobs then how can they complain about hoeflation? “Even mid girls have more options than a handsome guy” yeah why wouldn’t they when you guys simp over the women that are supposed to be consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:01 AM
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Ah, another post complaining about the consequences of hoeflation. The men in this forum constantly contribute to it. When I post a woman that most men would consider fat, they start defending her, calling her skinny, comparing her to skinny girls, or simping. Men on here say 4s act like 9s. But they validate 4s by giving her attention, time, a relationship. Even if you say “4s get coffee dates. 9s get dinner”, they will run in to claim those 4s are somehow 10s. And therefore making these women …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:52 AM
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I’m aware it’s Kylie Jenner. Women brag about being breadwinners now, they can’t afford to get work done? Either way surgery or not, you don’t look better than someone else just because you are natural. You don’t get special points. You won’t get special treatment. There’s plenty of fat women who say their bmi is natural so therefore they’re a 10 and in the same category as fit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:45 AM
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They don’t. But they’re demanding it. I know they don’t. That’s why men take them on coffee dates or Netflix and chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:43 AM
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The other girl has bigger, rounder and perkier titties especially if you compare to her waist. It’s not the same proportions. Her waist wouldn’t be boxy, and other women get a breast lift if their chest sags that much. Ken is wearing a swimsuit and her breasts are big, round and perky. Whereas the other girl is clearly wearing a bra and it still looks low on her chest, she also doesn’t have a small waist. The overweight one has a wide waist. Then you guys can’t complain about size 14 women think…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:43 AM
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Im describing the average fake woke feminist woman. You guys do this in real life too by being envious of the pretty coworkers or any woman that looks better. Anything I can say about a woman- there’s another overweight one that has said something 10x worse about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:31 PM
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You are contributing to hoeflation. The skinny girls I posted have bigger tits when you consider the proportion.. this woman has bigger everything. Ofc a woman will have tits if she’s overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:26 PM
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Do you think short broke men already get raw passion and kinky stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:46 AM
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Plenty of men settle. Whats your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:17 AM
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If anything, I think you women are negging skinny women with big breasts by saying they look the same as a chubbier, wide waisted woman with saggy breasts. You guys can’t stand that some women have featured that make them stand out from the average woman, which is why you say a size 2 woman and a size 10 look the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:17 AM
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And then I posted this body type <image> And a woman said they’re the same. This girl above is a model cocktail server at a Vegas pool. You have to audition and they don’t hire overweight women. How are they the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:15 AM
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I posted this body type. <image> And I know this girl on Instagram. She actually is chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:15 AM
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I don’t believe this for one second because a lot of you will simp and call any woman beautiful. Show me their body shape at least. These type of women aren’t dating broke men <image> Also, why isn’t Kylie Jenner, Adriana Lima, or Melania Trump with a broke guy and going on Applebees dates then? Men who contribute to hoeflation can’t complain about the fatties who think they’re skinny 10s. A woman that can only attract average men/average lifestyle is average. There’s a reason why she’s not good…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:09 AM
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Why would she deserve princess treatment? The women that are worth low effort should only expect low effort for the entire relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:07 AM
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Do you think men need to ask a CPA if they should waste money dating a woman they had to settle for? Most women’s reality will already show them what their man thinks of them. Most don’t have the option to stay at home, whether it’s for a week or 1 year… you realize some women don’t even taken out on dates right? There’s a lot of women nowadays that think meeting at a guys place for sex after midnight = relationship. It’s safe to say that those women can’t get 1% of what a married, sahm would. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:05 AM
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Where’s the evidence that sleeping with someone = relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:03 AM
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It’s perfect for mid women, but the problem is a lot of women think they are worth more effort than that. Or they expect more effort in the relationship. I think if you are the type of woman that a man would take out to coffee then he shouldn’t ever have to invest more to be with you. Meaning you shouldn’t be asking for birthday dinners or presents. That should only be for beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:56 AM
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They actually are sleeping with the guy. Those women are seen as easy for men. Haven’t you heard about how some men purposely go for chubby women because it’s assumed she will put out faster? She doesn’t have as many options as a beautiful woman would so her standards and expectations are lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:55 AM
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Why do I have to be redpill to say that an unattractive, overweight or average woman should not require the same amount of work a beautiful, fit woman would require?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:54 AM
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A situationship is not a relationship, A man sleeping with a woman one time does not mean he was interested in her, or was dating her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:53 AM
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But most men are still in a higher league than the women they settle for. So we agree that she shouldn’t get any effort or a dime from him then right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:52 AM
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I’m not providing shit if I end up with an average looking woman. She wouldn’t have the option of being a SAHM or being provided for 2 months, don’t know why you said 30 years. And yeah, most men are dating women that have limited options.. that’s what an average woman is. She wouldn’t be able to attract a guy who can do math, or a guy that enjoys being around her enough that he would spend any money. Being a placeholder/being settled for because you are easy to please and keep around does not m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:51 AM
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So? I also have buddies that settled for their wife. It doesn’t mean she’s his first choice. Some of us can’t get attractive women, and have to settle. Yes but most women would never be offered to be a sahm anyways because they are not worth that. It’s not really a choice that a woman makes, it’s up to the men she dates to decide if she’s worth providing for. And men shouldn’t have to provide for women that they had to settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:01 AM
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I’ve never said otherwise. It’s mostly women on here who say every woman is beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:57 AM
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I’m using womens logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:57 AM
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Most of them were never lied to. They just assumed they were in a monogamous relationship because a man slept with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:54 AM
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Or I’ll just settle for a Becky
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:49 AM
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The average woman won’t be able to find that. 80-90% of women would be out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:46 AM
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Most women are average though. So do you think most men can date a woman like Sofia Vergara and Salma Hayek? You realize what the average woman looks like like in comparison right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:45 AM
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Stacy for LTR/marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:44 AM
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So you agree that a man shouldn’t have to put in the same effort when dating an average woman vs beautiful one? The average one shouldn’t get anything that a beautiful woman would get.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:43 AM
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How
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:40 AM
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How can dating be that hard when there’s mid women everywhere talking about how they would give any nice guy a chance even if he will only bread crumb her?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:40 AM
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Most women are average looking so by default most men would have to settle. You must live in a dream world where every woman is a 10. And that every man is able to date a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:39 AM
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Only for attractive women, not women that he has to settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:38 AM
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Reality will humble those women you’re talking about though. If they were actually attractive they would be worth more. But men see them as an easy lay. Which is fine, but you guys make those women believe that they are 10s. You’re not a 10 just because men want to sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:37 AM
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You did lmao. The sprinkle sprinkle lady would agree with YOU that all women are their boyfriends first choice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:36 AM
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They struggle because they expect men to treat them the same way skinny women are treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:34 AM
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<image> Would you guys take a woman shaped like this to coffee on a first date or to something she actually wants to do, but costs more?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:34 AM
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I never said that all women should be treated on a first date. I simply said that unattractive fatties can’t get the same investment than a beautiful woman would. You were the one trying to make it sound like beautiful women get less than fatties by saying that the less effort a man makes (coffee), the more he likes you over the other girl (that he’s willing to take to dinner). Your argument is that women that are seen as cheap and easy are wifey material. When in reality men see them as bootyca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:30 AM
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I don’t have to project anything. A woman’s reality will show her what her value is. The women in here can scream that they’re their 10s. But they won’t be able to explain to you why no man would ever find them worthy of investing money or effort in. Why should a guy make a reservation and spend $200 to see her if she’s the type that SHOULD be happy with a 3 AM booty call/$3 McDonald’s coffee date? 4s want to be treated like 10s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:28 AM
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False. I don’t agree with her. I never said ALL women should be treated on the first date. I said attractive ones. My argument is average women inflate their egos by thinking they’re better than hott women- simply because men put less effort into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:26 AM
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I’m not. She’s just saying that because she wants to justify women being easy and cheap to access for chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:25 AM
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Because men usually date below their level. So he’s still better than her. And average women should get average treatment, there’s no reason why a guy would have to commit to her or put in unnecessary effort when that should only be reserved for women he actually wants. He’s settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:18 AM
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This is delusional. When a girl is really pretty she’s used to being given nice experiences without added pressure. Average women are still pressured during casual dates.. the man is already settling for them, why would he want to play a waiting game for her? She’s a dime a dozen. If she doesn’t sleep with him it’s okay, since she paid her half of the date it won’t be a loss for him. Average looking women aren’t worth much in the dating market, you can’t compare them to the stunners that can att…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:17 AM
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Who cares? She still looks better than the average woman. Fat in the breast area is good, not in the stomach/waist area
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:26 AM
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That’s Kylie Jenner. Women hate anyone that isn’t overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:12 AM
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No I like fit women that aren’t flat chested or saggy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:10 AM
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I don’t see how they can have trouble landing dates when most women go on coffee/parked car dates and she wouldn’t be able to get any better. They are most likely going for the attractive women that other men actually want to impress. Those women are used to dinners and other things because men don’t see them as just an easy lay Financially struggling zoomers dont have to spend money to be with mid women… mid women aren’t the goal though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:05 AM
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Yes, but if you look average you shouldn’t be making demands that only a beautiful woman with deserve. There are tons of average women that want a man to take them to dinner for their anniversary. How is that fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:03 AM
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I’ve posted an actual fat woman on here before and this girl replied saying she has the same body type as a pool cocktail server/model I posted https://preview.redd.it/nqbc34f2alle1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e55b6f55aae64b2fef0067b4653a5592641ae9d
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:02 AM
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You’re right. Why should I argue when reality will show women what they’re worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:00 AM
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The average woman isn’t fit with big, perky breasts *** Yet you believe that the average woman is her boyfriend’s first choice, and that he’s not settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:00 AM
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Men on here always post about how undesirable overweight women are. It’s the women on here who keep saying fat women and skinny women have the same body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:57 AM
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Nope. I never said that all women should be hypergamous. Only the beautiful ones. However you’re the one who has the mindset that all women are of the same value to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:56 AM
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Broke men can still scramble up $100-200 for a real date if the woman was actually worth it. Most men are settling so it wouldn’t make sense to have to spend money to date a woman that’s below your league. Beautiful women are the prize. Men love them. Most men aren’t with one though and had to settle. Look at the average man’s wife. What’s her body shape and bmi?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:50 AM
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Sleeping with a woman does not mean he’s attracted to her. Men aren’t gonna turn down easy sex. How do women still not get this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:49 AM
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This is feminist delusion lmao Most men settle. I have settled for every girl that I have dated. It’s actually delusional that you think every woman is attractive enough to be her boyfriend’s dream woman or first choice. Most men would not pick their current wife over Sofia Vergara if they had the chance
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:49 AM
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It should be easy too. They’re in the comments saying all it takes is a coffee date. Thats $5
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:47 AM
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Funny how you’re using cheap as an insult now but when a woman is cheap to access it’s somehow a flex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:47 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/sneyct637lle1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15e2250835337b9d2e116e55f528c979b96dff46 I wonder what the feminists are gonna say about this study. They keep arguing with me that men lump attractive, fit women and overweight women into the same group.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:46 AM
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Then why do most men tell me they settled for their wife? Maybe you are happy but the men aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:45 AM
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They have a man that treats them what they’re worth. Most men are settling. You realize easy and cheap women can be married too right? It just means we don’t have to do as much to keep her around. You guys keep conflating that with love and admiration when most men just settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:42 AM
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Yes but it’s not about the man’s finances. Thats feminist delusion. It’s about what the woman is worth. Ofc he wouldn’t spend money to date an average woman… most men are literally settling. It’s women who delude themselves into thinking they’re the prize. You guys always say provision isn’t a good indicator because men would not choose to spend on you anyways. If a man has to settle, she should have to pay her half in the relationship. And she shouldn’t expect any special gestures or gifts for …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:40 AM
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I can’t tell who’s the more delusional gender on here anymore. Women who insist they’re 10s despite being viewed as someone that’s easy and cheap to get. Or men that complain about hoeflation but then contribute to it by giving average woman a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:38 AM
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They do. Thats why you guys accept bare minimum effort. Its obvious when a man sees a woman as an easy lay. He’s never gonna want to spend money on something he’s planning on dumping after one time. Yet you guys keep insisting that you are more special and loved than married, stay at home moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:35 AM
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Sure, this is also what women say about every man that pumps and dumps them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:34 AM
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Yeah. Men settle all the time and will date for quantity. This is why they rather go on 20 coffee dates a month than take 2 women out. Women can’t clock this though, because they keep arguing that it’s the bare minimum girls that are the ones being taken seriously. Women don’t like reality. It’s why they keep arguing with me that overweight women and beautiful women get treated the same in the dating world. When I say some men reserve low effort dates for low value women, these women will argue …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:32 AM
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Okay, and let’s say he goes 50/50 with you as a placeholder for 9 years. And gives the next woman everything and proposes. With your logic, you would assume he hates her but loves you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:31 AM
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According to women on here, it should be easy to achieve that since you guys claim to be so easily impressed and not shallow. Yet ig models never date average men or go to Applebees for their anniversary dates
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:29 AM
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And if he wants to spoil another woman, he should be able to. Women don’t dictate which women are deemed worthy of the effort of provision.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:26 AM
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If your man took another woman to Paris on her birthday, and gave you coffee on yours. Who do you think he likes more? Who is he using for sex? With your logic you think men treat side chicks significantly better than the main.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:24 AM
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Yeah but some women just deserve it. I bet you think stay at home moms are worse off than single moms, cause they receive something from a man huh? I have a buddy who never gets his gf any birthday gifts. But he gets his female friend gifts because he’s attracted to her. According to you this should be fine, yet his gf still complains about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:23 AM
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Yes, which means it also has everything to do with the girl. Some women aren’t worth the money or effort another would be worth, yet women have an issue with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:22 AM
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She wouldn’t deserve it anyways. You basically agree with me that average women don’t deserve the same effort a beautiful woman would.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:20 AM
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I know her chest isn’t small and saggy like the average woman’s. A lot of men settle. So why should he have to ever spend on his gf?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:18 AM
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You just said women are sooooo impressed by walking dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:14 AM
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Then tell me why most mens gfs look significantly worse than her. Why would a man take a mid woman to a Michelin star? She wouldn’t deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:11 AM
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If that’s the case then why wouldn’t an IG model go to coffee with a random?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:10 AM
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So your interest can’t be bought, and that’s the reason it costs $5? Sorry but it sounds like you can be bought. It’s just cheaper so you shame women that require more. You also assume every woman that goes to nobu is gonna be forced into sex after.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:10 AM
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If actions speak louder than words then why does coffee = he’s taking you seriously? When that’s just the cheapest way for a man to meet up with women. It’s insane that you think unattractive fatties and beautiful women get asked out on the same type of dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:39 AM
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Not everyone is dating online strangers. Some women have options. I can’t message a woman like this for coffee. Cause she’s constantly posting herself at nice places and on boats. Any woman can also “run away” at a restaurant. It’s delusional that you guys think nobu can hold them hostage for you. https://preview.redd.it/kbys2m6mukle1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e2655869db3cd4ca192e9426e88a058d2909e61
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:35 AM
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You implied it. With your logic there shouldn’t be any lonely men in this forum if all it took to access a woman’s body and time was a coffee
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:17 AM
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But if I take a woman to nobu, it means I’m using her for sex right? This is with your logic. Most men settle. Just because we meet up with a woman does not mean we care about compatibility. Do you think men need compatibility for easy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:13 AM
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But you said all women were impressed by coffee. How would she be able to afford to pass this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:13 AM
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With your logic, I can be any random man that messages her and I should be guaranteed coffee date since that’s what she’s worth. Why would it require more to meet up with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:09 AM
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I’m tagging her so another woman can tell me what this woman’s value is. And what kind of date she deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:08 AM
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Because he’s taking you to coffee and that means he’s committing to you remember? The less he gives, the more committed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:08 AM
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The ones arguing with me that the most desirable/beautiful women go on coffee dates and that the unattractive fatties go to nobu
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:05 AM
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But u/cauliflowerelegant76 said a coffee would be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:05 AM
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Let me guess. With your logic, any man can meet up with a woman like this by just messaging her for a coffee date. You promise that’s all it takes to impress a woman like this right? u/cauliflowerelegant76
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:04 AM
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It’s not cheating if it’s a situationship. A lot of women say they’re taken, then their “man” would say otherwise. Women conflate men sleeping with them for a relationship. Some of you never even get taken out on dates. Just meet up at his place for sex. He makes you pay for your own Uber. That’s not your boyfriend but women will never understand this or believe this. Yall rather believe that it’s the married stay at home trophy wives that are the ones being used.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:01 AM
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But it’s different if we use coffee dates to try to hook up with them right? Thats called commitment? It’s only being used for sex if it’s nobu or costs more than $5
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:56 PM
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U/elegantcauliflower76
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:54 PM
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Actually you’re right. She’s the perfect looksmatch for a coffee date since she isn’t a perfect 10
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:47 PM
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Why didn’t she meet you for coffee? I thought women couldn’t pass up a coffee date in case it’s her future husband (it’s just a guy who wants to hook up)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:47 PM
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Doesn’t matter. She still looks better than the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:44 PM
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Then why doesn’t the average man’s gf look like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:44 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/kvrmstaskkle1.jpeg?width=975&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f674cbd09b1bdee87955e34c067d5fdcce4e1ca If I message this IG model asking her on a coffee date in 18 hours, I would be guaranteed a yes right? (This is by using women’s logic on here)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:41 PM
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No he wouldn’t. He’s just settling so he can get laid and married and have kids. That doesn’t mean he finds her beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:39 PM
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No he wouldn’t. This is feminist delusion. You guys insist every woman is beautiful, even if a man tells you to your face that his wife got unattractive and fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:36 PM
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Rating with numbers doesn’t make sense cause it’s subjective. However there’s only two categories. He actually wants that woman and would pick her over someone else. He’s willing to do stuff for her. He’s settling for her. He can’t get anyone else that’s better. She’s the easiest and cheapest to keep around. Most women fall into the second one. Which is why they accept breadcrumbs in relationships/situationships/hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:29 PM
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A 5 woman doesn’t turn into a 10 just because the man looking at her is a 5. With this logic would you also agree that a Honda is the average man’s dream car? It’s not. He just can’t afford his actual dream car. It’s the same with women. Most men would prefer a woman that looks like Sofia Vergara, but they will have to settle for someone who is not even 10% of the woman she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:26 PM
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You are describing hoeflation. Most women are not attractive. Show me an average man who has a gf or wife that is shaped like this <image> Most women are average. Most men will have to settle out of necessity. If men only dated women we found attractive then the human race would be extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:11 PM
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Nobody is forcing women to accept breadcrumbs. Some men will put in a little effort to fuck a woman. And women will confuse that with commitment and effort. This is why every 50/50 woman thinks they’re better than a woman that’s provided for. This is why every cheap lay thinks they’re better than a sugar baby. This is why every girl that only gets asked to coffee dates/3AM meet ups think they’re better than the women that men put money and effort into dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:10 PM
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No they don’t. Look at the average man’s gf and wife. There’s no way you think men are attracted to overweight women with saggy chests and mid faces. Settling means he doesn’t find her attractive, but she’s easy and cheap to keep around for company and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:03 PM
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He’s sleeping with her. It’s usually never “dating”. It’s just women who get used for easy sex. It’s not like the guys have ever brought her on a date. A lot of women can’t tell if a man only sees her as hook up potential. Even though he puts in the least amount of effort into dating her. u/cauliflowerelegant76 would probably tell you those women are being taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:59 PM
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No. These women know deep down from the beginning that these guys are breadcrumbing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:59 PM
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Yes but those whores actually require something. The women that accept coffee and breadcrumbs don’t require much. What would be easier for a man? To hire a $2000 stripper to entertain him or go on tinder and find a girl who’s willing to meet up with anyone? Most men aren’t gonna spend unnecessary money or time for a date to use a woman for sex lol. Why would he when there’s plenty of women here arguing they would do it for coffee?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:56 PM
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Yes. But if you’ve ever been shown that page it actually is just average women posting about how a Chad sweet talked her into a coffee/parked car date, they hooked up, and then he ghosted her. Women always think these men are so into them and want to be with them long term. It doesn’t cross their mind that men look for easy sex and that they were easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:45 PM
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Women love to accept breadcrumbs and then they will act like the man manipulated her. But in reality she accepted the bare minimum because she knows she can’t do better. They usually will also gaslight you into thinking that the women who receive the most effort and provision are the ones being treated “terribly”, and not the ones that men bread crumb to keep around as a placeholder
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:43 PM
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This is not true. Plenty of men are dating average to below average women, that they had to settle for. There’s no way you think most men can truly get the women they are actually attracted to. Most women don’t have exceptional faces or bodies. They are average. I would believe you if every man’s gf or wife looked like Sofia Vergara or had this type of physique that is superior to her peers. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:36 PM
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That isn’t as common as spending as least money and effort as possible. This is what I meant by women are delusional thinking they know how men think. The difference is the woman being taken out on expensive dates are not as easy to access.. it requires more effort than hitting up a girl last minute to grab coffee. If a man doesn’t want anything long term for sure (she’s mid), he’s not gonna spend $200+ when most women will meet up for free and sleep with men for free, your comments are basicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:09 PM
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It would be rational if men stopped contributing to hoeflation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:49 PM
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Yes it does, because no man is spending money on a woman that he has to settle for
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:48 PM
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Who’s a bigger red flag? The woman that cries randomly on the 2nd date or the woman who asks for money on the 1st/2nd date?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:48 PM
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Most women are average looking, they would be the perfect match with a broke man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:44 PM
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You’re contributing to hoeflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:43 PM
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Is something wrong with being broke? Cause the women in this subreddit sure do brag a lot about how they’re the breadwinners of their relationship. If she’s so independent she can pay for all of her things in a relationship, this includes dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:43 PM
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My opinion is that Average women think coffee dates from Chad or an average Joe means she’s a 10. Meanwhile men just don’t wanna spend too much when they are trying to sleep with or date a woman they had to settle for. Women delude themselves into thinking that them being easy to access and sleep with means they are 10s. When in reality that man would not have spent $20 on her in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:42 PM
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Why? I thought the women accepting low effort dates from chads were flexing on Stacies by being easier to access.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:39 PM
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It’s not men who argue with me lmao. Most men won’t ever put effort or finances into fucking women that they had to settle for. And most men will admit their wife or gf is average looking.. again it’s only women who claim every woman is beautiful. I’ve had a woman argue with me that an overweight woman with a saggy chest and a skinny woman with huge tits had the same body type. Hoeflation is so bad that the women that get asked out to coffee/used for easy sex think they’re 10s, while they claim …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:37 PM
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I’m talking about hoeflation. Coffee dates are basically the mid women who are easy to meet up with and sleep with. They think they’re on chads level, but he’s only casually sleeping with her because she’s easy to access. Come on, you are familiar with this concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:35 PM
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It’s not a question. If I took out Stacy to a dinner and then took out Becky to a park then who’s gonna develop an inflated ego? Becky.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:33 PM
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Will Sofia Vergara sleep with men as easily as the low hanging fruit on tinder then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:33 PM
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This is exactly how women delude themselves into getting used for situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:32 PM
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If I was an insecure woman I would have posted the opposite. Saying that it’s the unattractive women that get real effort from men and the hott girls are the ones that are used as casual sex for chads. Show me a hott woman that will go to coffee with any guy that messaged her. What’s her IG?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:31 PM
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It’s funny how women always talk about how men are desperate to fck anyone. But then they can’t clock that’s the reason why men also swipe on every girl, ask every girl out to coffee and feel out if he can sleep with her for free. I’ve seen women make videos about how men take hott girls on real dates and coffee/walking/parked car dates for unattractive women that he’s okay with casually fucking. And the funny thing is it’s mostly women in the comments defending coffee dates and how men actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:00 PM
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What’s a normal woman? An overweight one? I’m saying that guys on here complain about hoeflation and women’s egos, but now I see how women can think they’re 10s when you guys give passes to ANY woman despite how her body looks like. This is why they believe all women are beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:32 AM
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Those men have muscle mass. A woman isn’t supposed to have a wide waist with small ish saggy breasts. That’s not proportional. This is https://preview.redd.it/b31cotcxsele1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc6aeed58f4fd54f338296df56fe84ac5ce6559d
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:15 AM
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It doesn’t matter. Her waist is still too big. The ideal waist (not overweight) is 23-25 inches. If it’s bigger then her breasts should be bigger AND not saggy. It’s not true that we were evolved to like saggy chests. There’s a reason why most men lose attraction to their wife when she gives birth and breastfeeds. It gets saggy and loose looking. The girls with “bolt ons” still have a skinnier waist and bigger tits. So what would a bigger woman’s excuse be?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:13 AM
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No. If she has a job she can pay for her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:00 AM
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What kind of shape would it have to be? Her waist is wide and her chest is saggy. It’s insane how men in this forum complain about simps and hoeflation but then you guys come and defend overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:00 AM
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Yeah but a man shouldn’t have to spend money to date and be with an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:45 AM
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This is common sense, have you heard of pretty privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:36 AM
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How can slightly overweight look nice? Thats an oxymoron
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:56 AM
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I never said she’s peak. And how do you know mark definitely spends more than $5 on her for dates? For all we know, she could be getting nothing. He could be spoiling other women. Pretty privilege = being spoiled. A man can use you for sex and therapy and still spend nothing. Just because you are a gf or wife does not mean your man will spend any money on you. Show me proof that mark has spent on Priscilla.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:39 AM
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Sure, as long as they don’t expect a dinner date down the road
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:29 AM
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I’ve posted women with natural boobs before. And they’re saggy in comparison. So what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:26 AM
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So you admit she would be a guys 3 AM lay?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:25 AM
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No. Why is it bad for a woman to be skinny and have huge breasts that aren’t saggy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:17 AM
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Their boobs look better than the average woman’s natural boobs though. So why haven’t they paid to get theirs done?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:06 AM
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Did mark find her worthy? Yes. He married her. Now go ask any average woman on the street, if any tech billionaire has ever proposed to them. Let’s see their ring. Let’s see if they have a richer husband than Priscilla Zuckerberg. Reality will show her what her value is. Idc if she says she’s a 10
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:06 AM
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Either way the husband shouldn’t have to spend any money on his wife if she is average looking. So if they went to Japan and there’s a $20 sushi dinner, he shouldn’t cover that bill for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:04 AM
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Hmm I don’t believe you. I think men virtue signal on here but if they came across a woman that big in person… they would not hit on her unless they just wanted easy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:04 AM
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Most women don’t have that choice. They are lucky if a man was even willing to buy her a coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:03 AM
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How can you be so confident than an overweight woman with a saggy chest can bag a fit man, when fit men can bag women like this? https://preview.redd.it/txnz7uosjdle1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=666e0edd5ceaa0eb8292bd083395423994fb7914
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:02 AM
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Attractive women get pretty privilege and attract the highest status men.. she can have a square face, or round. It doesn’t matter. The point is she isn’t average. Actual average woman (any head shape) don’t get pretty privilege and they can’t attract a rich man in the first place. These women shouldn’t get the same things that an attractive woman would get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:01 AM
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No, I just like women that aren’t overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:00 AM
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Then go by yourself or take your gf but have her pay for all of her own things. My point is only attractive women should be getting dates that cost more than $5
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:59 PM
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When did I ever mention anything about jaws? Look. You are an average woman if you have an average lifestyle and can only attract average men. You shouldn’t expect dinner dates or birthday gifts when that’s reserved for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:57 PM
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She’s overweight with a saggy chest and yet you guys say she’s not. This is why every woman thinks she’s skinny with huge tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:56 PM
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A 30 inch waist is fat.. an acceptable range is 23-25
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:55 PM
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It’s called being realistic. Most average men will have average gfs. There’s a reason why she can’t do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:55 PM
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Above average women = supermodel, has a lot of pretty privilege or can easily attract a millionaire, can pass Miss universe audition Average women = a woman that wouldn’t be able to pass a miss universe audition, can only attract average men, millionaires ignore her
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:52 PM
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Yes but average women should always only get $5 dates from their boyfriend and husband. Doesn’t matter if it’s the first meet or 10 years together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:51 PM
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This is proof that men will complain about hoeflation but then contribute to it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:50 PM
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How? This is what causes hoeflation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:50 PM
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What’s skinny fat for a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:49 PM
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How is this slim?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:47 PM
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Women already know this. The ones who don’t are delusional. It’s like screaming that you’re a 10, but you get no pretty privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:47 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/4i7sdjrmgdle1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db3cb8e2c98516e4bb5351e0aceed1923d6cafc8 Is this considered fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:44 PM
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Coffee dates are for average women. Dinner/lunch/anything that costs more than $5 dates are for attractive women. Gifts, trip, unnecessary special gestures are for attractive women. Not average. Men are inflating their wives/girlfriends heads and then complain about hoeflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:43 PM
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Dude. Thats Kylie Jenner. Her chest doesn’t sag the same way an average woman does. And yes I have. Most women wouldn’t be able to do porn or pass a pool audition… why do you guys try to dictate what men find overweight or saggy? There’s also a study that shows most men lose attraction to their wife after she gives birth because of how the body changes. Idc how the average woman looks like…. Because the average woman is overweight compared to the pool girls I posted. How do you not get this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 10:47 PM
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This is fit with big boobs that don’t sag. https://preview.redd.it/enqqbt6gtale1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9e6d1ea225b3a9a1b17e9087f88368924c4a00b Are you really gonna say the average bikini day club model cocktail server is the same size as the average overweight American woman? It’s delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:51 PM
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The first woman I posted actually is chubby though. And so is the one in black. And is bigger than the rest. The others I posted are fit with big boobs. They passed a strict audition. I know women love to hate on them, but the truth of the average woman could never pass the audition. This is not fit, and her chest sags https://preview.redd.it/ritxa8wctale1.jpeg?width=374&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56886ac0a7e056a06293aacad7432fc6114cad2d
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:50 PM
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With your logic, it’s the fattest ones that have a flat stomach and it’s the skinny ones with perky tits that are overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:44 PM
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The average American woman is fatter than this and you know it. The girls im posting work at pools. The average American woman is considered overweight, and wouldn’t be able to pass the audition. Don’t disrespect these women by saying they’re the same as a wide, chubby woman. The woman I posted in the green bikini has given birth. The average post partum body looks nothing like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:43 PM
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I’ve posted two women that have flat stomachs.. that’s why it’s smaller than the average woman’s stomach. Show me a picture of the average woman’s stomach. The skinny girl has also given birth. Are you gonna pretend that most women look like that post partum?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:39 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/4q5cz9g5rale1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b769e77f49b1f011e489ee77e1b96ff6433bf1a Let me guess, she also has the same body type as the chubby woman with a wide waist and belly fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:38 PM
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I know the skinny girl. She passed an audition to work at encore beach club as a pool girl lmao. You can’t be fat and pass that audition. Then the first woman must be a size 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:36 PM
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As this one? I bet you will virtue signal and say they are https://preview.redd.it/k802mk9bqale1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20786b74a18fed6b123baa1a7bd7fd02b388bad9
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:33 PM
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Do you think this body is the same type and size as https://preview.redd.it/c5mebtq8qale1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4156d39370459a4f9b74288af22617c7a77dc52f
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:33 PM
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I actually know these women in real life. One is skinny with big tits and the other one is chubby, boxy, and has belly fat and saggy chest. Saying they’re the same body type is bullshit cause how is a size 0/2 with big boobs the same as a woman that’s BOXY and has a saggy chest?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:32 PM
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It’s not the same body because one is significantly chubbier. Shes boxy because she’s wide. And she has a saggy chest. You don’t know her in real life. If she wasn’t fat, my friend wouldn’t be trying to get with her as an easy lay. https://preview.redd.it/7js7ymuxoale1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1153fa81775014e0e8c02bd5cce30b51c339f55 If this is considered fat then what would the average woman be considered?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:25 PM
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They’re not the same body type. The first one is a fat chick my friend is trying to use as a fwb, and the second one works at a pool. The first one wouldn’t be able to pass an audition. If the second woman is “round” then the first one is obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:21 PM
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No she doesn’t lmao her waist curves in and her boobs don’t sag. You don’t know the first woman in real life. She’s chubby and could never work at a pool. The second girl is a small Asian with big tits. Again all this shows me is women are the only ones who hype up fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:20 PM
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Because you’re trying to say the woman that’s actually fit with big boobs looks the same as an overweight, boxy woman that has a saggy chest and a wide waist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:17 PM
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Ahh women are definitely other women’s biggest haters. The first girl is actually chubby in real life, and wouldn’t be able to pass a hooters audition. The second works at a pool. Try again. The first one is literally 3 times bigger. It’s so obvious that women hate skinny women with big tits. Boxy = fat btw
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:11 PM
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Clearly not? The first one is wide af. And has a saggy chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:54 PM
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You can’t be serious. There are girls that have big tits, but a way smaller waist, stomach, back, fupa area, and arms https://preview.redd.it/1hiqwkajiale1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90753cd34ab9f000fc8cff17994cd43f4ffc7840
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:50 PM
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Those men are climaxing to those women repeatedly, it’s gonna affect his perception if he gets off more to porn vs sleeping with a woman in real life. If those women actually fuck those men IN PERSON then that event is grounded more in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:18 AM
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Exactly. A vast majority of women also love to fuck broke men. So how is that a high standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:17 AM
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How? Is she skinny? Is she in shape?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:05 AM
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Technically the same thing happens when a man watches OF or pornography. He will also think he experienced that scene in the video, with those type of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:03 AM
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The single moms in wealthy circles aren’t dealing with deadbeats. A lot of them get good child support and etc from their child’s father.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:52 AM
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No. He’s not a chubby chaser. He thinks only above average women (like the skinny ones with huge tits) should be the only girls who can expect a man to have a car. Yet he’s validating average/below average women by having a car and still showing interest in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:52 AM
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If you knew my buddy you would realize it’s the same group. He doesn’t think average looking women should deserve/expect their bfs to have a car. He has a car and yet he’s going for women that are chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:34 AM
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This is what contributes to women’s delusion. Really fat = obese
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:33 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:20 AM
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Yes but those are the low hanging fruit women that men have to settle for.. do you get it? They won’t survive without a man’s validation, so they have to take anything they can get. These men can’t afford to have options or be able to attract beautiful or educated women. That’s the part of reality too. It’s also on Reddit where every man claims their gf or wife is attractive or desirable- when in reality she is low hanging fruit and can’t attract a provider. Most women are easy and cheap to acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:32 AM
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Hmm but men on here have also called Margot Robbie fat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:59 AM
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I have a buddy who’s a gym bro and these are the local women he brags about to me (he finds them on IG). Just proves my point that men will call women like Margot Robbie fat, but then go for women that are way bigger than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:54 AM
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Yeah but a lot of women that have kids are not as fit as her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:51 AM
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<image> Is this considered fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:50 AM
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Nope. If you’re truly independent then be single. But I know you won’t cause a lot of women need a man’s validation/presence, to the point where they’re willing to go 50/50 or be free to date and access
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:38 AM
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False. They are free to date and keep around. And they brag about it too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:33 AM
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False. Actual average women are overweight nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:33 AM
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A man downplaying his career is the equivalent of a woman downplaying her straight white teeth, clear skin, small waist, perky double d chest, nice bum, long thick hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:42 AM
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But they wanna be found desirable by low hanging fruit women that can’t even get a provider.. why does he need validation from free women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:41 AM
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I find it hard to believe that unemployed men with no business connections are out here with the most muscles/biggest build. There’s a halo effect. You can look it up. Attractive/taller men tend to be more successful, and are nicer and more generous because they are used to receiving a lot of praise and generosity from society. Single moms aren’t picking the men that are smart enough to be a homeowner, degree holder or business owner. They’re getting with men that lack everything a high status m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:38 AM
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That’s because those BMIS are desirable…. The same way a high income for a man is seen as desirable. Do you expect men with higher incomes to date the overweight women while unemployed men date the in shape ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:35 AM
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Sure, I can understand why a man doesn’t wanna be seen in the same way a 50/50 woman is seen. But a lot of men in this forum have said they don’t provide for their gf. So it’s hypocritical. You want to be desirable but somehow you want to date undesirable, cheap women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:30 AM
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They also aren’t real gold diggers if they’re gonna fuck him without a payment first. He can’t be serious. I live in a town that’s popular for sugar dating. Women that gold dig approach 40+ yo men or men that are willing to spend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:28 AM
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This advice is irrelevant when OP is clearly looking for an arm candy kind of gf. Those women are gonna have high financial expectations. He doesn’t want an average looking woman, even though he’s probably average himself. (Working in tech doesn’t turn you into a Greek God unless you have Bill Gates money). Average looking women are literally out here fucking homeless men, so OP is clearly going for women that are above average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:27 AM
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This isn’t any different to the safe 50/50 girlfriend option vs the woman you actually want, but she won’t be free to date. Obviously the first chick is the safe option, cause she will sleep with you without you having to spend any money or time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:25 AM
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No, this is feminist delusion. A man that’s dominant and high status can afford to provide and bring women on dates (even the ones he doesn’t take seriously. It’s not a dent in his wallet. It’s literally pennies to him) Single moms choose the opposite. Men that other men don’t even want to network with, because they’re unproductive, unsuccessful and probably unemployed. If feminism keeps encouraging women to sleep with bums that sleep on their friends’ couches then go ahead. But stop crying when…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:23 AM
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Because women will wonder what’s wrong with him since he can’t get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:26 PM
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Then who’s his match? A Stacy? A woman with 100+ other options? Women want the best option they can have. That’s hypergamy. So he would have to the best man she can get. That’s realistic if he went for his looksmatch… not women that are cute enough to attract someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:17 PM
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Yeah but a chubby woman with a cute face has options. His looks match would be a fatty that has an average or below average face. Or it’s the women that can’t compete at all.. 40-70 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:07 PM
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You almost got it right but no. If a man goes 50/50 with you, he is taking advantage as well cause most men who do that spend on other women. If you don’t mind that then it’s fine. I think if women accept 50/50, it should also be no business of yours of how your husband spends it. The smartest women I know have their own income, get provided for, and their husband gives them money to save or invest. There are literally doctors and lawyers who save 80-100% of their own income because their man pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:05 PM
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That’s because a short woman is not perceived the same way a short man is. A lot of men like short women, especially if she’s petite with a nice ass and rack. If you are gonna go by the market, it’s fat women that are seen the same way short men are. That would be his looksmatch. Women see his physical build and think he might have bad genetics cause he’s short, well then his match would be a woman that also has a bad build physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:58 PM
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No they wont. The men who complain about being single or dating apps are only struggling because they won’t go for their looksmatch. If you are a guy that gets 2 matches a month then your looksmatch would be a woman who also gets less matches than her peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:48 PM
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The men on here aren’t going for the 40-70 year old women. Is the average man gonna start going for them once they realize they have as little options as undesirable women cause they are also undesirable? The men on here who complain about chads taking all the 20-30 year olds are going for 20-30 yo women that have other options. Men already know deep down that these women have options, they just don’t care. Most guys are single cause they won’t go for their looksmatch… and your looksmatch is a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:46 PM
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But they already do know that chads have a lot of options nowadays and it’s not hard for a woman to be a man’s play thing. Chads will get with the women you are talking about, they already are fucking them in current times. This is knowledge that everyone knows already. Most guys on here who complain about having less options all go for women in their 20-30s, not realizing those women have an abundance because they are competing with women that are our moms age. You realize chads will pick a mid…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:04 PM
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How does it achieve true equality? Those women will simply share Chad. I don’t think they will go for men that have less options, because women are already aware that chads have options and still go for them right now. Dating apps showing people how many people the other person is messaging- is not gonna magically even out the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:44 PM
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No, they wouldn’t win. Because then women can see that average joes are also talking to someone else. Why would they compete for him if they can just compete for Chad? It’s already common sense that desirable men and women have abundance in dating. A lot of men just assume their subjective rating of beauty is objective. Most women in their 20s or look 20s in their 30s will have an abundance. These women are competing with women your mom’s age. Who do you think men will rush to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:43 AM
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Most guys will not like that, cause then they would be able to see how many options women have. And I know girls who said they skipped on an average looking guy if they find out he’s talking to someone else. They figure that if they have to compete, they would rather compete for a chad than an average joe. That feature would just make it worse for average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:30 AM
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I’m not sure what your point is because this already happens. Imagine there’s a 6’2 handsome 29 year old man that’s making $300k a year. And a 5’9 unattractive man who makes $40k a year. Who do you think will get more women? Who will get better women? Exactly. Men already know this. It’s women who don’t understand the female equivalent of it. The thing is men don’t brag about being the 5’9 unattractive man that can barely get girls. But women sure do brag about being the unattractive woman that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:25 PM
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Or they just spend on other women? I know guys who would never spend a dime on their gf, but they’ll spend $3-5k on a Vegas/miami/colombia trip and they spoil the girls they meet there (dancers, etc, girls at bars, maybe get a table at the club) There’s also plenty of men who spend money on onlyfans, but not their gf. If a woman accepts 50/50, then it’s not any of her business where his money goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:10 AM
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It is. A woman can scream from the rooftops that she’s a 10. Reality will show her she’s average when she’s with an average man living an average life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:08 AM
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No they don’t lol. Rich men typically have better looking gfs/wives than average joes. The women with average joes literally aren’t good enough to attract a successful man. Reality will show her what she’s worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:54 AM
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Where are you from? The objectively pretty girls in my city can easily get nice dinner dates.. cause they can attract men that regularly spend that much on dining out. I wouldn’t call them gold diggers- men naturally are willing to spend more for women that are more worth it/more attractive. The thing is men don’t want to pay to date an average looking woman. But average women will see pretty girls get taken on dates, get presents/trips from her bf/husband and expect the same treatment. Why aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:53 AM
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If rich men were actually frugal they would be dating the unattractive, less desirable 50/50 women that average joes have to settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:47 AM
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And how old is his wife? How does she look like? Her body measurements? Most average joes stay average, they don’t become ceos. Unless she’s a hott 25 year old model then you proved my point that only low value women go with men that can’t/wont provide. Some women know they could never get a dime out of a man- because they are less desirable and a leftover. It’s not a flex to brag about getting one of these women, ofc she doesn’t care about your money. She can’t afford to since she has 0 options…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:03 PM
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I don’t think the owner of your company dates low hanging fruit women though. That’s typically what average joes have to do and settle for, which is the type of woman that can’t get a provider in the first place. You don’t see rich guys bragging about how free and easy their gf is to date and keep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:07 PM
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Yes but with actual providers, the woman doesn’t even have to ask, a lot of those women already have their bfs credit card on her Apple Pay. I think men should just be honest and say they don’t want to provide because they settled for an unattractive woman (their looksmatch). That’s the reason why he doesn’t want to accept these requests. Hes keeping her around as a placeholder because the attractive women he wants want a provider and he can’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:35 PM
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Then why do rich people stay at the best hotels when traveling? Or fly business/first class? Why do they buy high quality clothes with the best fabric? Why do they spend the most on fun/entertainment? Those aren’t investments. And how would they see $500 as “too much” if it’s like $5 to them? Their version of frugal is not the average joes version. This is why you never see rich people get married at cheap, trashy venues or throw their birthdays at Applebees. They also don’t go to cheap dive bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:26 PM
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No, most men can’t. There’s a reason why most men rather have a 50/50 placeholder gf, it saves him money in dating because he can’t afford to do what he actually wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:14 PM
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Most rich people aren’t as frugal as you think. You never see them living in a shitty side of town, send their kids off to the worst schools, choose the worse doctors cause it’s more affordable, or even date lower quality women cause she’s cheaper to access. A $300 dinner is like $5 to them, I don’t think they are affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:01 PM
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For Americans, it’s not. This is why a lot of married women go 50/50, and why a lot of men kick out and cut off their children financially at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:58 PM
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I know actual sugar babies, they get 5 figure allowances. I don’t think giving money to your own gf is sugaring. Attractive women are always able to get money, I’ve seen them ask random guys at bars for cashapp and it works. I think a lot of guys just don’t provide, because they can’t get an attractive woman in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:57 PM
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This is kind of a trick question because I believe men provide for the women they like. But a lot of women are delusional and think their current man likes them, when he doesn’t. The truth is a lot of men can’t afford (let’s be realistic, a woman that looks like Sofia Vergara is not going 50/50 with an average man) to get the women they want or he is not able to organically attract them. A lot of men are also delusional about this. They date average/unattractive women, the type of low quality wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:55 PM
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A lot of men do think like this. Why do you think some men go 50/50 with their average looking gfs while they’re willing to send money to OF girls or spend more on dancers? If you go 50/50, and your man tips a cute bartender $50 on a $50 tab, then she technically has already gotten more effort from him already. If she was willing to give him a chance at sex or a relationship, he would take it. Because we know one thing for sure, he’s willing to spend money on her but not the current woman he’s s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:36 AM
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I think a lot of you guys are virtue signaling by saying that. You guys rather lie and say every girl is a 10 and that she’s a 10 simply because she said so or because she has an average man as a boyfriend. In a way, you’re proving my point that men don’t genuinely like average women. Because you have to paint every taken woman as a “10”. Instead of admitting that some men date unattractive women, or that some men settled. According to the women on here, you guys have all hated on the convention…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:33 AM
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A man doesn’t have to say it to his woman’s face. His actions will show it. There’s a reason why some women get a lot of effort and resources from a man, while other women get 0 and had to go 50/50 or she will be left.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 01:02 AM
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If we go by your logic, any woman can just claim she’s beautiful because a simp wants to fuck her. You’re describing average features. You haven’t looked close at women enough if you think most of them don’t have skin discoloration and dark under eyes. Go look at any makeup artists page that has a before and after. Now tell me how many women have a small, cute button nose. A lot of them have big noses or flat ones. How many women have full lips? And eyebrows that are even and have hair on them n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:47 AM
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No, that description does not fit a lot of women. Especially because of the hair, body and skin description. Most women have dark under eyes, discoloration, cellulite, acne etc. Most women don’t even have a big chest or a big bum with a small waist- so no their bodies are not good looking and it looks low effort. 40% of American women are overweight. I’m sure another 40% have average looking bodies. Hair- most women don’t have naturally long, healthy thick hair. You can’t be serious. Most women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:35 AM
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How is this a surprise to you? Just look at the women in this subreddit. The ones who get taken on coffee dates think they’re better than the women who get taken on dinner dates. The ones who get nothing from their bf think they’re better than the bf’s side who gets gifts, trips, money from him. The single moms here think they’re better than the wives that are provided for. Idk what it is but women think we like them more if we do less for them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:30 AM
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This post is a bunch of copium. No, the reason why average, less desirable women get offered lower cost/effort dates is because that’s what they’re worth. They compete with beautiful women by being lower maintenance, easier and cheaper to court. Would a man pay $200 for great steak and seafood? Yes. Would a man pay $200 for McDonald’s fries? No. The point is a lot of women are McDonald’s fries, so they already don’t have what it takes to expect a man to take them to dinner. It’s the equivalent o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:22 AM
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So describe a beautiful woman to me. Would it be someone with a small or saggy chest? Some girls don’t need plastic surgery. They already have a big chest, hourglass figure and nice bum. Those are the women that are attractive enough to attract wealthy men. That’s why you never see an average man dating a woman like that. You’re simply ignoring the majority of the population if you think there are “plenty” of beautiful women that date broke men. Or you are contributing to hoeflation, by calling …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:16 AM
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Do you think over 50% of women are “beautiful”? I find it funny how a man is calling me porn brained but he’s following the feminist logic that any woman can say she’s beautiful simply cause she has a man. Without considering the fact that he might just be settling for her since she’s free to access. Yes, plenty of women don’t care about money but that’s cause they are not attractive or desirable enough to make that demand.., that’s why a lot of them are dating average men and living an average …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:46 PM
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Technically, most average men can’t afford that “type”. Why else do you think the average man’s wife looks like that, with dark under eyes, cellulite, small or saggy chests and a waist wider than 25 inches. She’s overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:36 PM
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They definitely are not as beautiful as you’re making them out to be. I’ve seen the average man’s wife/gf (the kind that works and splits the bills) compared to athletes and millionaires gfs and wives who don’t have to work. An average salaryman’s gf does not look better than a millionaires gf. The latter looks significantly better especially because they get breast lifts after giving birth whereas the average woman walks around with a saggy chest and skin, she also can’t afford a nanny to help …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:31 PM
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I disagree. There’s a good amount of women that would care. Especially the most attractive ones. That’s why you never see janitors date the type of women that Donald Trump and Ronaldo can. We have to be realistic, when your resources are limited so are your options. Show me one average joe making $40k a year, who doesn’t spend money on the women he dates and has a hotter gf than Ronaldo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:01 PM
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You’re a woman so married men don’t vent to you. But most married men I know have said they settled. It’s only women who delude themselves into thinking that 20% of you or more are attractive, when it’s not.. men just settle for guaranteed companionship and sex. Men go for less desirable women cause those women are supposed to be free to access and keep around compared to their more attractive counterparts. So why should he have to spend $20 on her on Valentine’s Day? He is already settling for …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:01 PM
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Those women were still good enough to get a billionaire. Thats what you have wrong with the South American women you’re hyping up. Her looks can’t get her a high status man. Her education can’t get her a high status man. And her personality can’t get her a high status man. That’s why she can’t get what Melania Trump, Priscilla Chan, Miranda Kerr, Georgina gets. Georgina was working retail and was noticed by Ronaldo. I’ve noticed tons of women are always out and about, and yet no millionaire or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:48 PM
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Rich and high status men in Latin America countries are not single. They are with a woman that’s good enough to be with him. Which means she’s better than the competition. There is no proof you are beautiful if you are living an average or below average lifestyle. Men looking at you and wanting to fuck you does not mean you are at the same level as Melania Trump or Sofia Vergara. Their man is a reflection of them. You are with an average man that gives you an okay lifestyle because that’s what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:50 PM
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You just said most people aren’t rich, which is exactly why men have to settle for women that are supposed to be free to access and keep. You said most people aren’t rich but now you’re trying to justify a man spending his hard earned money on gifts/dinners for the woman he’s settling for. It shouldn’t take money and effort to date a less desirable woman- that doesn’t make sense. In that case that man would deserve a woman that looks like Sofia Vergara. This is why men are opting out of dating. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:56 AM
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It is a “prize” considering that most women would not be able to get one from a man either way. How do you not understand this? If 80% of the women around you are not worth more than $5, but you are worth the money and effort to take out to a nice dinner then you’re objectively higher value than the women who are not worth any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:53 AM
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But the thing is a lot of Eastern European men are providers. So yes women are gonna date them even if they don’t look that well, And no. You’re over inflating them. Either way, reality will show them their real value. You can scream from the rooftops that they’re a 10- reality will show them they’re average by giving them an average lifestyle. There’s a reason why they can’t pull off what Melania Trump pulled off, it’s not because of the ratio.. lol the rich men in their country are not single.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:50 AM
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My point was most women wouldn’t be able to get a dinner date even if they tried. Those are for above average women. It’s copium that you guys use that excuse. Just be honest and say it’s because a man would not spend more than $5 on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:54 AM
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Universally, it is. This is why women with flat bodies usually go on cheaper dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:22 AM
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Having a small chest is below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:38 AM
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Okay so what happens if you’re a girl in Russia with a small chest and an average face? You would be forced into paying then right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:37 AM
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You tell me. I’m mutuals with this girl on instagram. She’s always going to high end restaurants in Miami. Tell me why she isn’t going to Starbucks. Tell me why the men she dates are willing to spend money on her. I thought we all agreed that average women weren’t worth spending a dime on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:36 AM
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Kylie fell in love with Tyga. Kim fell in love with Kanye. Angelina fell in love with Brad. Yes it happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:34 AM
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Okay so let’s say the woman doesn’t believe in being 50/50, meaning she doesn’t want to pay for the snacks. Will she be able to attract a man that can afford to pay for her snacks or will she be forced into paying for it? If she doesn’t pay, then she will never go on any date in her lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:33 AM
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If she can’t ever do any better then she technically is forced to go on a coffee date or she will never go on a date in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:32 AM
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I never said that this woman can’t get food on a first date, I know she can. I’m using the average man and woman’s logic in here. Since you guys claim literal 10s will go on coffee dates with any man who asks them. I wanna see how these women look like, if women were this cheap and easy to access, there wouldn’t be so many men complaining about hypergamy on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:31 AM
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A woman just replied to this saying this woman wouldn’t be able to get food because of how her armpits look, so you’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:27 AM
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So you agree that any woman who is less fit/smaller chest than her has to settle for coffee?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:27 AM
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Your opinions contradict what most women and men on here would say. They would say the woman in the picture is a 4 and has to settle for coffee. But I’m mutuals with her on instagram- she goes to high end restaurants in Vegas and Miami with men she dates all the time. It makes me wonder how the men and women on here get to dictate what kind of dates a woman is allowed to go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:23 AM
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For the coffee first date discourse on here. Would this woman be forced to go on a coffee date (because an average woman on this subreddit said so) for a first date or would she be able to find a guy that will buy her food? https://preview.redd.it/dgyjyo9nptje1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e36b8d5b3a2004102bb95e3aeca5999bcc702680
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:15 AM
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She most likely was not attractive objectively to other men. Or she was still seen as low value, which is why she only gets asked on low value dates. The dates value is based on the women’s value. Any man (whether he’s rich or a bum) deserves to spend $0 on a date with average looking women, since that’s what she’s worth. You didn’t want to take her on an expensive date because she is only worth a $5 coffee. Thats why. Expensive dates are for women that have high value. Most women are not attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:09 AM
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Men would do this in a heartbeat if they could. But there’s not enough women in leadership positions to hand us jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:50 AM
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Go look up what hoeflation means in the sexual marketplace. Then you’ll understand
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:49 AM
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Average men don’t need much to be impressed if they’re dating average looking women. Use your own logic, a man with dignity would not spend money on a mid woman or date her. He would only be impressed by stacies. He’s settling for the average woman so why does he have to spend money on a date to impress her? I agree with you that she should be the one impressing him. She’s lucky to even have a chance, when stacies exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:07 AM
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That’s called inflation. Why should it take any effort to impress an average woman? And they are lol. That’s how they justify accepting coffee dates. When in reality, men ask them out on coffee dates cause they are not worth spending on. Instead, these women rather say “they prefer it” because then they won’t owe the man anything But in reality she can’t even get asked to a restaurant date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:08 AM
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If they enjoyed it so much they wouldn’t be crying about being pumped and dumped. They’re still doing what sex workers do but for free. I’m just saying if we slutshame the pros we should also slutshame the free ones. Yeah and those women are the type that will fuck any man that buys her a cup of coffee. Coffee dates are for low hanging fruit women. Which is fine since the average man is already dating an average looking woman that wouldn’t be able to get a dinner date from another guy in the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:50 AM
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Those women usually aren’t that attractive. They’re average. Actual attractive women can attract millionaires, successful men, athletes, etc. they’re not dating an average earning man. Her reality shows her what her value is- not what a simp passportpro thinks. Is the “gringo” a rich, powerful man that could buy her a house without flinching? Probably not. Because he’s an average one. She’s average and attracted an average foreign man. Melania Trump is a woman that actually attracted a powerful …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:47 AM
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Yes but it shouldn’t cost any money or effort to impress or date a mid woman. Thats my point. Thats why men take them on coffee dates. Also a lot of mid women are close to being overweight. So it should be out of the question for a man to feed her any food from restaurants that usually contain more calories If you read the comments you’ll see men saying “well my current gf was okay with coffee because she didn’t want to owe me afterwards”. What do you think that implies? It means women subconsci…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:45 AM
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Yes but a lot of women are average looking so a date or relationship with them should never cost any money. But it’s not about the man’s finances, it’s about the woman’s looks and desirability. We have no problem with fit, beautiful women wanting a proper date or effort throughout the relationship. The problem is with average women who are almost overweight, wanting food on the first date or wanting her boyfriend to spend his own money buying her food later down the road. Most women don’t need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:42 AM
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No, some women are simply average. They should accept low effort like coffee dates on the first date, but they should also accept low effort for the rest of the relationship. For example that would be never having to buy her a gift, take her on a date or have to spend a dime on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:39 AM
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They can afford nobu for the right girl, who’s actually worth it. Most men settle. You’re not a man so you’ve never been given advice to from other MARRIED men. If you had to settle you would never want to waste any money on a woman like that. That’s just a double loss. She’s unattractive and still costs money to keep around. Most men do want a 9 or 10.. 6-8 is what they settle for. Just because she is not a 500 lb troll, does not mean she deserves a brunch date or a decent engagement ring. Okay…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:35 AM
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Yes, but that’s also because a lot of men lie about their girlfriends and wives being cute. Be honest. 80% of men have average looking/unattractive girlfriends, that’s the real reason we take them on coffee dates. But men have lied to them by saying it’s “financially irresponsible” to take them to nobu, but in reality it’s because they are not pretty enough to be seen at nobu.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:33 AM
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The difference is that a lot of men’s girlfriends are average looking and aren’t worth a dime. That’s why she has to do anything a sex worker would do, but for free to gain male validation/relationship. The minute she expects her bf to take her to dinner or spend any money she will be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:31 AM
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Not necessarily emotional investment, it’s about attraction and her value. A lot of average men date unattractive/average women.. so of course you shouldn’t spend a dime on her. But most beautiful women can easily attract financially stable men that can take her to dinner without it stressing him out financially. The average woman can not attract this man. And most men have to settle, so looking at current couples (most are average looking) will still prove what I’m saying. Men have to be more h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:28 AM
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Most men ARE settling. This is why a lot of married men spend a lot of money on hott dancers at their bachelor party. Look at the average man’s wife or gf… do you really think that’s his first choice? This is also why a lot of men want to go 50/50… if we have to pay then we should at least get our dream woman. The thing is a lot of women can’t be honest about coffee dates. You guys try to frame it as a thing that makes you better than the beautiful girls that get taken to nobu. Or that it’s your…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:57 PM
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This is cope. Real chads don’t dumpster dive. Do you really think Dave Franco and Henry cavill are fucking 50 yo overweight single moms?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:53 PM
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I’m sorry but the women who do that should not be your example. The girls who date men who can’t give her a comfortable life usually only do that cause she can’t attract a gainfully employed man in the first place. A chick who looks like Sofia vergara is not choosing an average earning 20 year old man or an average earning 40 year old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:52 PM
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Don’t inflate these women’s egos lol, a lot of “whores” cost way more than the average gf. Thats the only reason why most average men have to date instead of just getting a sugar baby. These girls literally go 50/50 for fucks sake.. meaning they essentially sleep with men for free and still end up with no ring (placeholder gfs). No sugar baby is gonna fuck you for $0 a month, but a girlfriend will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:49 PM
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No. Men need to start being honest. A lot of women are worth the investment (the attractive ones). The problem is a lot of men date average looking women that could never get signed to a modeling agency or land a millionaire. That’s the real reason why they get $5 dates. Not because of the man’s budget or finances. The dates that a woman gets is a reflection of her, she gets asked to coffee because she is not good enough to attract a financially stable man that can afford dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:48 PM
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I disagree. I would argue that a lot of men chase these average women on coffee dates on purpose. They don’t wanna spend money on the pros, and a lot of average women will fuck for 90% less. It’s evident in these comments by the ones bragging about how men only take them on coffee dates.. yeah that’s because no man wants to spend more than $5 on you. I wish men would be honest with these women. Stop telling them that it’s because you guys are strangers and start telling them that they get coffee…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:45 PM
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Because a lot of women are in denial about them. If a man asks you to coffee, that’s because you are less desirable than your female peers and are worth less in the dating market. I don’t like how women cope with this by framing it as if they’re low maintenance or a girl boss- no. It’s simply because you are not worth spending more money on, it’s not a reflection of the man. It’s a reflection on you. No man is taking a beautiful woman to coffee. The average woman is not beautiful, she is average…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:43 PM
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A lot of women won’t be able to figure this out. This is why a lot of single moms/undesirables/last options think they’re better than spoiled gfs, stay at home moms, trophy wives, sugar babies etc. They think the less money it takes to be with them = the better they are. When in reality that man could just be with her cause she’s free to fuck and keep around. It’s funny how women on here talk about how men just want casual sex blah blah but then they make access to them so cheap- meaning any man…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:40 PM
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In America, most women are mid and go to Starbucks or Applebees on the first date. A man paying for your $20 pasta is not the flex I was talking about. American men have no issue paying $30-40 when it guarantees him getting laid, and a lot of women are sexually liberated enough to think they are obligated to sleep with a man if he buys her that $20 pasta and $10 cocktail. Show me a mid woman that goes to Carbone or nobu for dates- and doesn’t have to go 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:01 PM
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It’s not revenge when women are already dating men that make them go 50/50. Show me one average looking couple, where the man had that much money to waste on a mid woman. Show me one average looking woman that goes to nobu because a man asked her there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:37 PM
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It’s not. Some women give it up for nothing, but other women don’t. It’s important to realize there are hypergamous women out here and then there are women that are not hypergamous at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:33 PM
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This is wishful thinking/coping lmao. Most of those girls probably had to transfer her half after. I know guys who never spend on their gf, but go crazy on other women that are out of their league. No “average” man has a $400 budget for something that is barely worth it. This is like saying the average joe is willing to pay $50 for McDonald’s fries, when those fries are worth $3.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:32 PM
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Here’s the thing. I’ve seen a lot of attractive women get taken out on $300-800 dates for the first date. It’s actually very common in Las Vegas and Miami. For average women- yes she will accept McDonald’s or Starbucks but the average man in this forum does not want an average looking woman. This is why I’m confused by the men that are unwilling to pay- yet they want the type of woman that other men want and will gladly spoil. Wouldn’t it make sense for them to date the women that no other man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:59 PM
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Most men do not take women to expensive dinners. A lot of girls on OF (custom content, not the entrance subscription fee) literally cost more than most dates that average women are taken on. Just know some women charge $100 for a 4 minute video. Whereas a lot of women will go on a two hour date that costs $30 for her part. I also know some dancers charge $1000 for a private room.. just remember most women will never get $1000 spent throughout their entire relationship. It’s more about the women …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:53 PM
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Or maybe we have to pay for someone who’s not mid, and we are dating her for free cause she is mid and not worth spending on. Stop letting women control the narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:35 PM
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This is paranoid behavior. It’s unlikely that a woman will find out, and so what if she does? Like I said, a lot of them are just insecure about the fact that they are worth $0 to hook up with and keep around. It’s more embarrassing to be the placeholder gf that men keep around for easy, free sex. Also, most pros look better than the average man’s gf. This is why a lot of taken/married men still pay for it. You can date in your league or pay for actual attractive women that aren’t giving it up f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:03 PM
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Show me an average woman that has more options than an average man, but it has to be an actual average woman. (Meaning 80% of men will treat her like she’s average). She can’t have any nice features, and can’t be in her 20s. A lot of “average” men would have more options if they went for their league. Your league is not a woman that gets noticed by other men… a woman has to be somewhat cute or have a nice body to get glances. Nobody is admiring an unattractive fat 37 year old single mom and givi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:51 PM
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False. A lot of “prostitutes” are on IG or sugar dating sites. They don’t have a pimp. They’re also more picky than the boss babes that fuck for free and get pumped and dumped. Also most women would not be able to find out. Do you have any idea how many married men have Splenda or sugar babies and their wife still doesn’t know? Why would a single guy paying to hook up be found out?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:48 PM
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What’s the difference between paying someone and hooking up with a woman that’s free? One requires something, whereas the other one is willing to give it up for nothing to anyone. The women who will think you’re a pariah only think that cause no man would ever spend a dime on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:45 AM
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If there’s nothing wrong with men pursuing women for looks then wouldn’t you agree that it’s the same vice versa? Then these same men shouldn’t complain about the unfairness tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:03 AM
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One man thinking a woman is attractive does not make her attractive, that’s what hoeflation is. If she’s not conventionally attractive then don’t give her the satisfaction of a relationship or attention. But a lot of men still do this. If only attractive women were allowed to be in relationships, then 75% of women would be single. And they would be the ones pursuing and spending money on men instead. Yet men ruined this by going for the bottom 75% It’s not a stupid statement since 75-80% of men …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:09 AM
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Most men would not be able to choose an attractive woman in the first place. Attractive women are not with average joes, there’s not enough of them to go around. The average man’s gf/wife is average- that’s why she can’t do any better and she doesn’t have the pretty privilege of attracting a man that other men actually look up to. She has to take the scraps she can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:07 AM
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So? Look at the average man’s wife and gf. He is not attracted to her either. You realize most men are not dating models or IG models right? So why care if she is attracted to you or not? It’s very unlikely you’re even attracted to her, unless you are a high status man going for models… the average man and average woman worrying about attraction is stupid. You’re not Henry cavill and she is not Sofia vergara. The unattraction is mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:57 AM
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But you would waste time and energy trying to court a woman to sleep with her? That doesn’t even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:56 AM
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Those men make it hard for themselves by trying to court a woman. Why not just pay for a pro if quick sex is the goal? Taking the hard way and then complaining about it is insanity. There’s an easier way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:18 AM
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A brow artist. He paid for her business building. I wonder why he would do this when so many women and men insist that every woman has to pay for her own things and never ask a man for a dime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:17 AM
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Men don’t go for women below their league unless they’re at a dive bar and a fatty wants to hook up for free. You guys really overestimate the time energy and money that above average men waste on women below them. They have supermodels that they can bring out in public and smash afterwards. They are not going to waste time meeting up with women that aren’t that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:20 AM
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They’re not. But the red pill would say he could be dating Madison Beer, Kylie Jenner or a 23 yo model in LA (because he’s older, financially stable and not bad looking) yet he’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:36 AM
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Blue pill couple of the day: This woman is over 35 and her husband provides for her. I wonder how the men on here are gonna explain this. https://preview.redd.it/vkgo9eajseje1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23910171d56304119c42dfeb7dedba0320cdfcef
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:04 AM
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That’s the point I’m making. Men don’t do whatever is the easiest either, just like how women don’t do that. (Working vs being a stay at home mom) Paying for casual, and masturbating is easier than casual dating… yet so many men waste their money time and energy on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:14 AM
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This chart is a bunch of BS. How can 46% of men be dating a woman that’s “close” to their type, when only 20% of women are conventionally in shape and attractive. No man’s type is an unattractive fatty. Some of those men have to be lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:47 PM
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No. If men were taking the easy way out, they would pay for hookups/relationships instead of spending so much time and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:45 PM
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Yeah the okCupid study would imply that a lot of men think they can afford a certain restaurant, whereas the restaurant disagrees and refuses to lower prices. The men that adjust have less issues dating because they understand the women in their league are realistically the women who can’t do any better. If you’re an average joe you should not be trying to date women that are attractive enough to get a sugar daddy or get a job somewhere where they require the women to be pretty (hooters, country…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:01 AM
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Well it’s like going to a restaurant. Why would you go somewhere that’s out of your budget? Then you won’t be able to eat and they get mad if you can’t afford to tip. Men should go for who would realistically say yes to them.. not for women that have other options. If I decided to go for Sofia vergara then I would get shot down. It wouldn’t make sense that I blame all women for Sofia turning me down- if I was unwilling to be with my looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:24 AM
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It does because he’s the one choosing to approach and ask them in the first place. Why doesn’t he ignore them and reject them then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:54 AM
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Exactly, men choose who to approach. He chooses who had the option to accept or reject him. Why give so many women this option?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:32 AM
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That you’re lying. You really expect us to believe there are women over 30 that are in shape. Is this is America?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:32 AM
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They’re in shape but older than 40? This entire post is cap
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:47 PM
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They do. Saying otherwise is like saying a fat 67 year old single mom can get more than 0-2 matches a month. If you encourage delusion on one side then you gotta apply it to both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:47 PM
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Men do 99% of the approaching. Yes, men choose. Men lead society, including relationships. Those women only have options because men gave it to them by being available.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:42 PM
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What she probably means is that men do 99% of the approaching, so yes he is choosing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:41 PM
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But Hispanic women are the most desired so I find it unlikely. She has a man spending money on her- other women don’t even get glanced at so that’s my point. How would you be able to get a man to spend money on you if you can’t get a man in the first place? And yes, because your mentality is exactly why women’s egos are inflated. Why delude them into thinking men will spend on them? Most are average looking and shouldn’t be expecting anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:40 PM
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Well Hispanic women are the most desired so that makes sense. If you’re gonna use a woman as an example then maybe you should consider a type of aesthetic that most men would not even glance at twice, instead of the most desired aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:20 AM
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I’m talking about average looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:40 AM
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Sure pal. How does she look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:39 AM
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This is unlikely for most marriages because a lot of women are 50/50.. no man is letting her spend his money (married or not)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:48 PM
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Because some women make it known on their profiles they want reservations to be made or how they want a real date. The point is you wouldn’t be shooting your self in the dick. Plenty of women are desperate enough to accept last minute coffee dates/car dates. My point is why should a man put in more effort than than when other women are willing to give up their time and body for less?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:46 PM
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No, they’re not. This is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:44 PM
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But I thought the women that gained something from a man were prostitutes right? Why can’t they be with men for free? No ring, no provision, no child support. Aren’t these women independent enough to do it themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:49 AM
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You don’t speak for all women. Women definitely try to “out cheap” each other, which is exactly why you called those girls prostitutes. If they were willing to sleep with any man that will lie to her about wanting a relationship, you would applaud them for being independent, low maintenance boss babes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:40 AM
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Exactly, that’s why some women are only worth a coffee date. They would not be able to have the demands or expectations of the FIT women I posted. Most women can’t even afford to have their nails and hair done all the time. This is also why some women have to go 50/50.. men don’t want to trade the time they spent at work to spend money on an average looking woman- that should be grateful she got any attention at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:22 AM
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How? You basically agree with me by implying that only prostitutes require something while “normal” girls will do it way way way way less.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:08 AM
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It depends how she looks like. Go for a blue pill liberal feminist independent boss babe. They’re always in here bragging about how they got into their “relationship” by fucking a man for a cup of coffee
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:48 AM
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They are. Some of them are bragging in my comments about how low maintenance they are. And they call girls that expect more, “prostitutes”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:47 AM
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So you admit that non prostitute women will sleep with men for free then? Thats most women, so you proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:47 AM
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Yes but since you’re a woman you should know better, so tell me.. would those girls fck any random guy who buys them a coffee? Cause if they did then why would any guy put in more effort for girls that are less fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:11 AM
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What’s the point of this? Just don’t go for women that require any money/too much time to be spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:57 AM
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It doesn’t cost that much to start a family nowadays because most women don’t require a ring or provision. A lot of women pay for their child themselves like an independent boss babe and the dad can see the kids on the weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:56 AM
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That’s my point. They are pump and dumps or placeholder gfs. They’re the ones who make it harder to put in effort for the other girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:50 AM
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Yes those IG girls are not gonna be the ones accepting coffee dates. But the girls who are average looking will. They’re literally all over this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:49 AM
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Even if all of that was true, there’s still gonna be a woman that would accept that and she would call you high maintenance and stuck up for implying that it was a negative thing in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:06 AM
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Well the average woman is fat and average looking, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:58 AM
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Nope. I think women underestimate the amount of desperate women on the dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:54 AM
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Why does a man have to be serious/higher effort to get with women that aren’t worth all of that? Like I said, if there are women willing to let a guy fuck them for a cup of coffee.. why should they have to put in any more effort for anyone else? This is why men don’t need relationships or marriage anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:42 AM
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I’m going on a coffee date tomorrow. I’m sure she will put out too since I made this plan last minute and she agreed.. meaning she has no other plans/no guys taking her out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:41 AM
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Not really. Plenty of girls will take low effort dates. Not sure why you’re disagreeing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:28 AM
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Yeah that’s too many demands when there are women willing to accept less to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:06 AM
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It still depends. If she’s average looking in Europe most men won’t take her out somewhere in public for a first date. It’s just straight to his house. These girls still think they’re hot shit even though men only see them as a private booty call.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:05 AM
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No, my point is the opposite. Most women here aren’t hot shit, that’s why they get $5 coffee dates. Nobody is spending $40 on them. The beautiful ones, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:04 AM
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Low effort girls do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:01 AM
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Most women are low effort. Are you calling them desperate?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:01 AM
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Yes.. if he’s willing to settle for a 5 then he can definitely spend $0 on a date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:00 AM
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You’re right. Most of the “dates” a lot of women are asked on are free since it’s just Netflix and chill or she pays for herself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:00 AM
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I know plenty of men that were raised that way. That doesn’t mean they’re gonna waste their money when other women are willing to do it for less and free.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:57 AM
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Women do have that mindset. Thats why you guys shit on eachother for being spoiled girlfriends or stay at home moms lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:55 AM
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It is.. why do you think some men purposely go for less attractive women? Becuase they require less. They are not used to a man taking them to nobu or a restaurant in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:54 AM
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That doesn’t sound smart. No man is gonna waste $100 taking a woman out on a date when there’s 10 more willing to go to coffee and hookup afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:53 AM
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So you think your experience is the majority of women’s experiences? No. A lot of women won’t be taken to restaurants in the first place. She will be taken to Starbucks and even then she can pay for her own. There are plenty of women who will hook up and pay for themselves. Why would a guy pay or commit when low effort women are willing to do everything for less?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:53 AM
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Most women will have to tolerate it if they want a relationship or man. Whatever you won’t accept, another woman is happy to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:50 AM
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Yup and the same can be said for women wanting commitment- there are other women willing to shag without any dates or commitment involved. Same with women who want marriage- while there are plenty of women happy to be a placeholder and won’t be demanding a ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:49 AM
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Yup. This is why women are only playing themselves by expecting a date. You are competing with women that will accept a Netflix and chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:45 AM
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Why would a man pay for a woman’s stuff if another woman is willing to be with him for breadcrumbs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:44 AM
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False. Average looking girls only get hit up for $5 coffee dates and late night booty calls. It’s not actually a win for them but I’m sure some of them will think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:42 AM
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Either way why should a man put any effort/money into dating a woman when another woman is more than happy to accept anything from him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:41 AM
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They don’t want to pay. Thats why a lot of girls get asked to $5 coffee dates. No man is spending more than $5 on her
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:41 AM
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The first girl won’t get a dinner, but another girl is more than happy to take her place and accept a $5 coffee instead. You realize that’s a win for the guy right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:40 AM
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Yup. They’ll stick around for 9 years for an engagement ring even if you were never saw her as wife material in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:39 AM
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I wonder how coffee date girls feel when a guy messages another girl “why would I take you to dinner when other girls are willing to go to coffee and possibly bang afterwards?” Low effort girls (even though they are less attractive) are good for men but I can see how they’re bad for other women. Why would a man have to try so hard if other women are cheaper and easier to access and keep around? Women always ask “why be with someone you’re not attracted to?” But they fail to realize it’s because …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:33 AM
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I wonder how coffee date girls feel when a guy messages another girl “why would I take you to dinner when other girls are willing to go to coffee and possibly bang afterwards?” Low effort girls are good for men but I can see how they’re bad for other women. Why would a man have to try so hard if other women are cheaper and easier to access and keep around?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:30 AM
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Would it be better if she’s only banged rich guys/provider guys? However I disagree, a lot of the women in this forum brag about being cheap lays. Why would they all of a sudden want a beta buxx provider, when they’re so used to bragging about being the breadwinner/a girl boss?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:28 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/7hzo5vza5tie1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bc05072c52d5e29b86d48933f9533bf4ea8dc73 Is this couple looksmatched?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:17 AM
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It doesn’t matter. So what? Fat women are told they’re beautiful all the time by other people that want to virtue signal. They still don’t have as many options as women that are in shape. Your desirability is shown to you in reality. And in dating, you are competing against other people. How are they a catch if other men get chosen 10x more before them? Those comments don’t mean anything. Because I have also seen women on Reddit hype up fat women with saggy chests and ugly faces. Being complimen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:56 AM
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Nope. This is cope. This is like when an unattractive fat woman goes off about how she’s not fat or ugly. The point is the opposite gender perceives them as low value/not desirable.. that’s why they have less options. Men don’t decide if they’re “objectively” attractive or not that’s decided by the opposite gender. Same with women. Women who get less pretty privileges/less attention are less attractive (by the objective standard set by men)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:51 AM
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Quality men have a ton of options though. Shes not wrong about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:40 AM
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It’s actually more comparable to a woman that also isn’t good enough to be used for sex. Men don’t like unattractive fatties. Those are the female equivalent of men that have less options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:39 AM
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This is exactly why there’s so many child free women now participating in hookup culture with Chad. What would she gain out of monogamy/having a child with a man who can’t provide financially or provide more looks/sexual attraction than Chad can?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:31 PM
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When I say overweight I meant any woman that’s bigger than a size 2. When I say saggy, I mean any woman that has breasts that aren’t super perky but big at the same time. Most men’s gfs and wives are overweight by this definition. Most men’s gfs chests are saggy by this definition. Which means the majority of men will have to settle for a fatty. You can scream from the rooftops that she’s not “medically” considered obese, but the point is other men will perceive her as obese if she is bigger tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:26 PM
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I said they’re either overweight single moms, or just overweight. Look at the average man’s wife/gf.. she IS overweight. This is why fit women can afford to pick and choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:30 PM
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I said they might not be single moms, but they’re definitely overweight by the average man’s standards. Look at the average man’s gf. She’s not a size 0, with a huge chest and a big bum. Most of those women have belly fat, a wider waist, saggy chests etc. I think you’re confusing insta models with the women that average men are typically dating in real life. When the guys on here consider a size 2 “obese”, then yes I would argue it’s extremely rare for them to get an “in shape” woman. You can go…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:29 PM
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If you look at the average man’s wife or gf, she also has no positive qualities. Just average/neutral, not anybody that any man would glance at twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:59 AM
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Most women that have kids are not married or provided for. If they’re not a single mom then they’re overweight. The math does math if you go to an average date night restaurant (average prices) and look at the average couples there. Those women are usually overweight with average faces, saggy chests etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:58 AM
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Young beautiful fit women don’t necessarily belong with average men her age just because they’re the same age. What’s this average guys height? His finances? His social status? What would make a child free, in shape woman choose him over another man? Most women are overweight single moms. Yes, including women in their 20s. Men in this subreddit consider size 2 women obese. There’s not a lot of size 0 women with huge double dd knockers. That’s why they’re the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:37 AM
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No it’s not. You guys don’t know what an average woman is. Or an average man, an average man is not fit or put together. He has no positive qualities, he is neutral. That’s why his match is overweight single moms.. because naturally the child free fit women will go with men that have some positive qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:43 AM
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I believe ALL men deserve provider dads. And a low stress stay at home mom. That gives them the best advantage. And that’s what a lot of chads have. Too bad most men outearn women, and the women who act like that end up being single mom boss babes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:38 AM
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But he definitely wouldn’t be a provider. Meaning the mom would have to work full time, during her entire pregnancy as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:50 PM
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And yet most men in Europe still can’t afford to get one, so they have to resort to dating. I’ve seen the average Europeans man’s gf too. They’re usually average and flat chested. They can’t afford to bang an attractive big chested woman either unless they’re above average in income.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:49 PM
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It would cost more than $300… do you realize attractive women can get $400 dinner dates and they won’t have to put out at the end? Why would these women start having sex for $300? They could be offered more. The country I’m in, $300 is for low end unattractive street walkers. But they still look better than the average man’s gf/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:08 PM
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So would you agree that a lot of men that have average looking moms, deserve deadbeat or broke dads?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:51 PM
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I’m bringing up dads because men are directly affected by the type of man their mom chooses to father them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:50 PM
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Depends, a lot of men actually were raised by single moms nowadays. A lot of men correlate a woman’s attractiveness with her children’s provision. With that logic, if a man’s mother is not young or a supermodel anymore then we can assume she wouldn’t receive a dime or any contribution from her kids father. This would directly affect men if their dads decide to leave their mom and him if she’s not an 8 or above. And yeah, that’s exactly why a lot of “average men” can’t compete with chads that wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:47 PM
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No. Women that are married to the average joe work 40 hours a week, even when they’re pregnant. Because she has to help contribute to the bills, or the father would most likely leave his children since he doesn’t want to provide more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:05 AM
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Exactly. This means that any man with an average looking mom is not gonna see a dime from their dad. You realize what that means for society right? And no, men growing up in single mother households still end up worse off than “entitled brats”. If you want to give your son a head start you would make sure his mother is as stress free as possible (stay at home mom)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:03 AM
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These men would change their tune if it was their own mother choosing a poor man to be their father.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:10 AM
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Are you suggesting that pretty women should only date providers while average men have to settle for slumpbusters? Cause then this entire subreddit would have to stop complaining about how only fatties want them. I disagree with you. Saying that an average woman doesn’t deserve provision would only imply that most AVERAGE men deserve to grow up without a provider dad/stay at home mom. Do you think most men deserve daily home cooked meals from a low stress mom and financial stability/help/nice li…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:08 AM
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Those women shouldn’t be the standard though. It’s funny that a lot of women and men bash single moms on here/slumpbusters with no standards but then they promote the type of behavior/choice making patterns that lead to that outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:05 AM
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Saying women don’t deserve provider husbands also means you don’t think boys deserve provider dads. Do you know the difference between a boy who grows up with a provider dad vs one who grows up in a single mother household? Again, this means that if you have an average looking mom then you should settle for your father not taking care of you at all. This is crazy to think that men deserve this. A mother not having a provider husband hurts the son more, do you understand this? Think of a man you …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:59 AM
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Average joes who make average money can’t necessarily provide enough for a woman to take off work for 1-2 years when she becomes pregnant. She would have to work the entire time, and those guys don’t necessarily contribute financially to their children. Because low standard women don’t require provision or commitment from their kids’ fathers. Saying that your fellow men don’t deserve a provider dad is insane when you think about how the current economy would require a parents help to buy a decen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:58 AM
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It’s not that rare when most of our mothers and grandmothers were taken cared of. Single mom/single income households were not that common back then as they are now. Women having low standards affects OTHER men a lot, what do you think happens to a man when he grows up without a male figure that will teach him how to be a man? A woman can’t teach a boy on how to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:56 AM
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What Chad do you know grew up in a single mother household? Chads go to good colleges, wear the best clothes, drive the best cars in high school, and join frats. This is very unlikely if they didn’t have a provider dad. Most women aren’t gonna be earning a CEO salary AND do the majority of the child rearing. Saying women don’t deserve providers also implies that most men don’t deserve to be provided for from age 1-25. The men I knew with a rich provider dad ended up doing a lot better than the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:41 AM
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Would you tell most men that they only deserve a dad that can provide a $50-70k childhood/lifestyle growing up? I don’t think so. Also, most chads grew up to be well off. Going to good colleges, joint frats, driving new cars as they get their license, this is not possible if they don’t have a provider dad. You would be dooming your son to be an “average man”, which is considered to be pretty undesirable because of the head start that chads get. (Provider dad/stay at home mom)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:38 AM
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With this logic would you also agree that average earning men should be okay with having no women, and all the pretty women share a higher earning chad? I don’t think another fellow man deserves to grow up without a provider father just cause his mom is a 6 to you. Think about it. Most men have a mother. Most of their moms won’t be supermodels, this would imply that most men would not receive a dime from their father from age 1-18. And this means they won’t have a father that will help with coll…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:34 AM
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Yes. Except the thing is you might think they’re good men, but women don’t because they might not be attractive or providers etc or whatever standard they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:26 AM
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Well that’s true but an unattractive “nice” guy isn’t necessarily considered or perceived to be a “good man”. They can definitely be taken and be in a monogamous relationship with a man. But not necessarily a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:33 PM
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Well most women can’t get a man that will pay for dinner. So a chad that will fuck her and pay for dinner would be considered a win, when you consider the alternatives. There’s no guarantee that a below average man would pay for her dinner OR commit to her. And most women know what they’re doing. Don’t infantilize them. If they actually wanted a relationship they would have already chosen a man that has no other option (he might still not pay for the dinners though). But they pass him up on purp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:10 AM
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This is not true. Both 10 and 6 men want hookups and 10s. If anything I think women adopted the male dating strategy- that’s the alpha fucks beta bucks thing. Chads get “pretty privilege” the same way stacies do. Average women see average men pining for above average women, and realized they can actually fuck these chads instead of just pining.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:59 AM
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It’s not. Especially if she has a job. She can pay for all of her own things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 02:49 AM
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Depends. In a 50/50 relationship she would be contributing financially for half of the ring cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:07 AM
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Ok, I meant Instagram models. A lot of men don’t consider them out of their league since she’s not a “real supermodel” even if she has 500k followers and doesn’t even know him. They can’t get a match because they won’t swipe on their looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:47 PM
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You are talking about ugly women who can’t get glanced at. Thats not the same as an average man failing at dating cause he keeps going for models/sugar babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:20 PM
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I don’t see women complaining about being dateless and sexless on here. Men compete against other men, obviously the better option will win.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:53 PM
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What I’ve noticed is that the majority of dating complaints in this forum (from men) are due to them not wanting to be their looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:20 PM
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Some men would prefer to hire a professional that’s highly attractive. But it’s expensive, that’s where the 50/50 “friends with benefits” come in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:16 AM
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It’s not a fantasy. It’s the average woman’s reality. Go ask how many women are getting their bills paid for by a man. Dinners treated to. Getting a hamburger after he uses a woman for sex doesn’t count. Unless you’re implying that’s how much it should cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:03 AM
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If you split the check then you’re proving my point that they aren’t paying. I am American. Most women go 50/50 because they have to. No man was gonna foot the bill for them anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:16 AM
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No they don’t. This sounds like a feminist fantasy. Most men are dating in their league which is why they don’t have to spend a dime on their partners… why would they spend money on a woman they’re just friends with benefits with? The same woman wouldn’t be able to get a date treated for by a long term partner or on a first date. It’s unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:17 AM
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Well then let’s say he doesn’t sleep with another woman, but he spends money on another one. Is that okay? If he never spends a dime on his gf, but still expects sex from her or it’s over. But he can spend money on other women he finds attractive. If most women are okay with this then why do women get mad when their husbands or boyfriends spend money on strip clubs and onlyfans? And let’s say he does sleep with someone else. Does this imply that his girlfriend’s only value is sex? I would argue …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:14 PM
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They definitely do shit on them. If you were spoiled gf then you wouldn’t understand. There are women who brag about how they don’t get anything from the men they procreate with, date, sleep with etc you know that right? They do that to feel superior over the women who do get stuff from the men they procreate with/date/sleep with. This is why single moms think they’re better than trophy wives/stay at home moms… because she’s independent.. and the other women are receiving finances/help/time/supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:49 PM
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Dude you and I both know the majority of women are not attractive enough to even get a dollar from their LONG TERM boyfriends. What makes you think a fwb would stick out his neck to spend that money on someone who would sleep with him for free? Men only do that for women out of their league. Most men aren’t fucking or dating supermodels, so no there aren’t gifts exchanged. There’s women that have been gfs for 4 years and they don’t even get presents from their boyfriends.. what makes you think a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:43 PM
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But they do “owe” him- they’re in a relationship. They’ll find another girl to sleep with if she turns him down anyways. And if she doesn’t owe him anything then why does he have to listen to her about not following other OF Girls on IG or subscribing to them? Why does he owe her that? With this logic I hope women stop getting mad at their boyfriends for sugar dating someone else or by spending money on strippers. He doesn’t “owe” you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:41 PM
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But the women think they’re in a relationship. Why else would they be going 50/50 and then be getting mad at their bf following of girls on IG?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:20 AM
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Why are women dating these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:43 AM
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I didn’t say he buys you or any woman. A male physician would deserve them for free. Meaning she also pays for her own dinner bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:05 AM
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How’s it prostitution if I said it should be free for those men? I said they should be able to get women that are technically attractive enough to be a sugar baby, but is free for him. Thats not prostitution because he wouldn’t be spending any of his hard earned money on her. They are looks matched.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:15 AM
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Not really. I’ve noticed European guys will go Dutch with average looking European girls. But he has no issue spoiling an attractive Eastern European woman or latina. Women are just in denial about this since they all think they’re 10s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:46 AM
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They probably still look better than most women who work in that field. Thats what hoeflation is. A career can definitely make a man “hott”. Then explain all the old men who walk around with 24 year old hotties in LA, vegas and miami. They are looksmatched and someone women that are older or fatter than these 24 year olds think they deserve a man that’s better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:32 AM
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That’s what men call hoeflation. If a man is a doctor then he should be able to get a woman that’s good looking enough to be a sugar baby, but is free for him. It’s actually insane that you’re calling male physicians unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:13 AM
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She wants to be the breadwinner/provider, and expects her man to be the birth giver/stay at home dad. Which is why she hates stay at home moms/women that embrace their femininity (aka women that don’t feel ashamed for taking off work to raise their kids.. even if it’s only for a week).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:08 AM
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I didn’t say wanting good money was competing with a man. The point is a lot of women want to be breadwinners nowadays- so yeah actually it would make sense that they’re paired up with a broke or unemployed guy. There’s plenty of women that have good careers but they’re not attractive or feminine- so no they can’t get a guy that has a good career. Guys with good careers don’t wanna date a fatty just cause she’s in the same field. Those are the exact women that shit on women like you for getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:05 AM
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Yes it’s a common theme amongst women. The hypergamous ones are excluded, obviously. But a lot of women compete with men financially, and try to prove they can be the breadwinner in relationships to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:57 AM
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You can’t be serious. Women shit on - stay at home moms - wives that don’t have to work full time year round - spoiled gfs - gfs that get presents/trips/dinners instead of splitting the cost down in half - women that expect a man to pay for a first date - women that get free drinks at a bar instead of paying it herself - women that get into a club for free instead of paying it herself - women that won’t go on walking dates/Netflix and chill dates - women that expect something before having sex -…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:39 AM
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No they don’t. Your fwb was an outlier. Most women in long term relationships don’t even get a dinner paid for. And they like that cause then they can flex on women like you and brag about how they’re so independent while they point out how you’re depending on your fwb for food. That’s not how I or men think, I’m just pointing out how WOMEN think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:22 AM
2

Trading your body for a $50 meal vs a $5000 meal is still transactional. A lot of women think being cheaper means they’re better than the high maintenance girls. Meanwhile, they’re still being transactional because they wouldn’t give it away for free.. even though that’s what most men do or are expected to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:01 AM
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A lot of men have “starter” gfs or “placeholder” gfs. I’m sure you’ve heard of men giving a woman the bare minimum for years, never providing her with anything. Then he meets a woman he actually wants and desires, and is willing to give her everything he wouldn’t give to his ex. It’s why some men will date a woman for 8 years, while he proposes to another one after only a year of dating. A lot of women know this. Them being low effort/low cost is to compete with other women. This is why a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:00 AM
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What about the women who trade it for trips, nice gifts, nobu, allowances etc? Why aren’t women willing to trade it for free the way men are? Cause if they were, men would not have to spend a dime courting, dating, and proposing to any woman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:26 AM
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Well they’re not that wrong. I have buddies who have had starter gfs, or women they kept around for guaranteed sex. However, they didn’t have to pay anything cause these women had that mentality that they’re “equal” and are taken more seriously if they’re 50/50. However, they weren’t taken seriously. They were just easy sex. It’s cheaper and easier to do it this way than to go to bars and dating apps. Since these women are your girlfriends, they feel like they have to provide the sex anyways. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:24 AM
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They don’t have to compete. They can sugar date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:29 AM
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That would mean that women compete. Men compete against other men to become chads. Men compete so other women will “pre select” them. Lazy women who don’t compete end up with deadbeats. Lazy men who don’t compete end up with scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:29 AM
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Maybe if they had that body where their curves still show through loose clothing. But most women don’t have a tiny waist with a huge chest and bum, so I really doubt it. Most women also don’t have a 8-10 face card, so I doubt it again. Straight women always try to tell men what we find attractive. It doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:30 PM
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What’s a HTN?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:17 AM
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They’re usually the ones who get provider husbands (if they’re a good looking 304 with a nice body) while modest looking girls get 50/50 treatment though. I know this cause my married buddies sugar date attractive women and married average looking women who know they’re average and can’t expect the treatment/dates that a hott woman would get
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:15 AM
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Are you saying she would look better before or after surgery?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:14 AM
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She’s a woman of color.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:15 AM
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So you’re saying he looks fake too?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:15 AM
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<image> Are they looks matched?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:10 AM
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But then why doesn’t he have a prettier woman from that ethnicity?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:40 AM
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Hm so these women are getting a better looking man and he’s a provider. Tough dating market these days
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:38 AM
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Depends. Is he providing or are they going 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:08 AM
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<image> Is this a looksmatched couple
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:02 AM
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This is how the standard Latina looks though. Just go to Colombia or Miami?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:08 PM
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What’s her age?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:58 PM
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<image> Is this couple looks matched?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:03 PM
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<image> Is this a looksmatch?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:03 PM
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How so? Even the guys in this subreddit say most women are overweight and unattractive.. if that’s the case this means most women won’t be approached and hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:02 PM
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Yes but that doesn’t mean their wife is more attractive than the women with small waists and big chests. It’s usually toxic feminists on here who insist that every man must find their wife the most attractive. Usually women that are active, don’t have big chests. A lot of the women I posted are fit. Would you guarantee that the women I posted will date a broke guy then? If these are the women that are willing to date a broke, short unattractive guy then why are guys in here always complaining ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:33 AM
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You could prioritize your children but also admit your wife has gotten heavy and you have no attraction to her anymore. Have you seen how saggy, deflated breasts look like? And somehow you think fake juicy looking ones are worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:19 AM
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Yes that’s what I meant by most mens gfs and wives looking objectively worse. She would probably disagree and then proceed to hate on women that are shaped better than her. These are the same women that complain when their husband loses attraction to her. Most women don’t have perky tits or a small waist after giving birth. Good luck to them trying to keep their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:41 AM
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Well I’ve noticed that when I post fit women with huge breasts, the men on here hate on them. So we can assume that those women aren’t approached cause they are considered too heavy or mid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:28 AM
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Well this is how people are in the workplace too. Some people can get away with slacking or being late because they always talk to everyone and make friends with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:22 AM
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But I thought the women in this subreddit said that women don’t care about resources and would date a janitor if he was nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:18 AM
1

That’s one person. Most men don’t like bbws. Most men have to settle for their average looking wives and gfs- why do you think these womens waists are so big and their boobs are so small? If they man actually loved them they would get them the boobjob, bbl lipos and the ring. But they don’t, which is why the average American woman is walking around with small chests or a saggy one, belly fat, and an ass that nobody would care for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:12 AM
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Fat women don’t pull more/better men that fit women. Actually I don’t really believe fat women pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:59 AM
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How do you know she’s a gold digger?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:58 AM
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But women on here always preach that any man with a good personality can get any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:02 AM
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