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He wordlessly smiled at a complete stranger while touching her waist, after having accosted her before. This isn't something a person does just because he's shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 11:47 PM
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I could be wrong, but I think Pickupscientist was using "I blame the patriarchy" as an example of a gender generalization. If his username had been different I might not have thought that. Also if that is what he meant I don't really agree with his example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 08:57 PM
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You totally missed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:27 PM
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Some examples would make the OP a higher quality post. I'll meet your generality with a generality though: Red Pillers don't talk about women like they are people. They talk about them like they are a uniform and inferior species.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:39 AM
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"I believe that Trump's ascendance will herald the end of the "PC" culture, where we spare the truth to avoid hurt feelings." Trump being president means we're living with a constant stream of lies to avoid one man's hurt feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 07:06 AM
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Man, there are a lot of creepy black guys walking around at night then, if all it takes is someone's subjective opinion. But really we aren't talking about the reactions of individuals. We are talking about the collective shaming that's been legitimized by internet feminism in recent years, against men with non-conforming mannerisms, low status, and/or lower-than-average looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 06:10 AM
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his whole appearance is a red flag. I'm not sure what you mean, you think he's actually dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 05:51 AM
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Along the lines what buartha said, men preferring younger women is painful to some women because it's so pervasive. Men on OkC on average rate women in their early twenties as the most physically attractive, no matter the age of the man doing the rating. OkC women rate men roughly their own age as the most attractive. Cougars are rare and therefore not a threat to men's feelings of self-worth. Men preferring very young women is a goddamn avalanche.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 06:10 AM
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"So...you don't date, get to know each other, establish you like each other and want to be exclusive before fucking each other? You just hop into bed with strangers and hope it works out?" That's a false dichotomy. I do the first three of four parts of the first sentence, but not the exclusive part. What if I commit to someone and we're not sexually compatible? I overstated my case about the universality of that though. Your way is totally fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:25 PM
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"You wanted a relationship. The guys you gave the pussy to didn't. You didn't make this desire clear. The only way to make this CLEAR is by getting commitment BEFORE sex." Only 14 year olds and the very religious get commitment before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:59 AM
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Sam Jackson has those big intense eyes, I'm sure some women are into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 11:13 PM
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I have personally witnessed the dramatic difference confidence and charisma can have for a woman's prospects. It's not a universal attractor for women like it is for men, but on the whole it is much better to have than to not have. Not only does it attract men, it helps women filter out men too timid to handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 02:53 PM
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Saying "it can't be argued that" can't actually stop people from arguing though. It's a common rhetorical device.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:53 AM
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To be a rock god, yes, but just playing guitars is enough for most guys to get with SOME attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 01:11 AM
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I was going to chastise you for the vague clickbaity title but I'm not sure how I would have improved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 07:07 AM
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Do you (or anyone) know how the data was gathered for that graph? I'm wondering how people's looks were determined and categorized, especially for the Tinder one. I'm just a bit skeptical because Tinder is less open with their data than OKCupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 09:53 PM
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This is some juvenile nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 10:27 AM
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Day game isn't inherently bad, it's just advanced. It's abnormal to just go up to strangers and start talking to them, so if you do that you really better know what you're doing. That's why I volunteer and go to Meetup groups and try to expand my friendship circle at work, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 08:55 AM
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I'm curious as to what you mean when you say a 4-6 man, since some evidence (often discussed here) shows that women rating men more harshly than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 08:52 AM
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I'm not convinced that feminists do this more often than non-feminists. It's unfortunate that more feminists don't follow the maxims of their philosophy (such as not shaming people for not meeting gender ideals). Like terps I think for a lot of women feminism can act as an amplifier and justifier of their natural tendencies; unlike terps I think those tendencies vary among women. Compassionate women will find justification and impetus for more compassion through feminism. Cruel women will find f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 07:19 AM
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This is actually a concession on the RP side or at least a shift. RP used to say women were attracted to jerks mostly BECAUSE they are jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:05 PM
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Dates generally cost much less than sexings with prostitutes You determine what kind of date you go on if you're asking (which, as you said, you probably are) and there a lot of date ideas that range from cheap to cheap as free. The fuck is wrong with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 04:13 AM
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Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog--Supergenius nerd loses the girl he was crushing on to a superpowered stud, and vows revenge. 100 Days of Summer--Nerdy guy falls hard for MPDG with limited emotional capacity, at least for him. Super--Fry cook Rainn Wilson loses his wife to charming drug boss Kevin Bacon. And vows revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 08:17 AM
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His definitely has a place on this list of figurative and literal cartoon characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 02:01 AM
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Do you have a link to the "love and shyness study"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 06:20 AM
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So, shouldn't you seek out sluts then? Imagine the amazing suite of personality traits and abilities an n>1,000 woman would have, especially if she migrates from scene to scene. She would be superhuman. She would be Legion.
/r/TheRedPill19/10/16 03:01 AM
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No one is a 10 period. Anything above an 8 starts to get really subjective. The people who have the most universal appeal look kind of bland, so the only way to be a 10 is to be a 10 to a certain subset of people who have a taste for your look. A 10 is an 8 or 9 filtered through the right perceptions..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 11:09 PM
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There is nothing natural about the broader SMP. In evolutionary terms it's very recent that humans have had to engage and compete in societies with more than a few hundred people. In that way, a subculture is closer to the ancestral norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 10:52 PM
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Fault divorce should exist as a fairly easy option, but not the default. People should be able to place those constraints on themselves if they want without having to hire a lawyer to craft a contract line by line.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 02:06 AM
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That's not an example, that's an argument by assertion. Without pictures to complare who's to say the clothes wouldn't nudge both women by 0.5 or more? I don't think anyone's saying they're both going to become 6's or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 07:07 AM
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Assignment: a very short three line piece including numbers. Prompt: Your gender is on trial. Try not to make us look bad. Yeah, that won't be biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 07:02 AM
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Just take what you want from a given ideology and discard the rest, what's so hard about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 06:20 AM
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There's a difference between being objectified individually and being objectified as a group. It's the second one that feminists are usually talking about when they talk about objectification--women as a group being valued mostly for their bodies, even outside a sexual context. If that happened to men we probably wouldn't be too happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 05:58 AM
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The only people I've ever seen directly brag about their intelligence--usually saying "IQ" to make it sound more like verified fact--are men on the internet. Talking about your IQ is obnoxious and causes you to instantly sprout a fedora.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 06:16 AM
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I looked through that thread, didn't see much venom. Groupthink yes, venom no. The problem with that kind of discourse is it makes sensitive and hyper-scrupulous men afraid of women. I've struggled with the same thing, but we can't let ourselves be swayed so thoroughly. If we can recognize internet bluster and hyperbole for what it is, and just be mindful of social realities and respectful of women, we'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:15 AM
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Think about hearing about a person who has to pay other people for friendship. Like a frat boy/sorority girl? Those people seem to to alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 05:38 PM
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I researched a skincare regimen to keep myself looking young and stick to it religiously. Any possibility you could indulge my desire to benefit from your research? Besides sunblock that blocks UVA and UVB, what have you found?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 07:52 AM
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Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 10:13 PM
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That's not defending women who cheat. It's making fun of terps for breaking this incident down into base components and reweaving it into a treatise. That's my best guess anyway, it's linked with almost no context. Very low-effort post on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 09:54 PM
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didn't like the harsh truths Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 10:27 PM
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It's not splitting hairs to say that someone wanting someone a bit more attractive than them is different than wanting someone vastly more attractive than them. It's still not healthy to feel entitled to, well, anything really--but why exaggerate? And your bringing Hollywood into it just muddies the issue. Why not focus on how people behave in real life? On OKCupid men rate 50% of women as above average and swipe right 45% of the time on Tinder. Women on OkCupid rate 20% of men as above average …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 08:33 PM
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If someone referred to "the most intelligent people" you wouldn't think of people with 120 IQ's, you'd think of geniuses. Likewise, standard usage of "most attractive" means model hot or nearly so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 07:51 PM
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It's not actually a cult. There are some cult-like things though, like the rainmaking nature of the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 05:22 PM
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So you're attracted to the most attractive women out there while you are admittedly average yourself. Even if overweight is average, 85% of non-overweight women under 30 is not "the most attractive women out there."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 05:13 PM
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This has been studied. People can be infatuated with other people of a sex they aren't even attracted to. Infatuation is not necessarily sexual. You're right that it is culturally mediated to some extent. "Romantic friendships" used to be a lot more common, especially among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 10:30 PM
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You have a cartoonish perspective on reality if you think the most likely reaction is a scream and a slap. You might get an indignant "excuse me?!" or unbelieving laughter. You'd get a similarly negative reaction if you went up to a guy you hadn't met and said "Those are some good strong calves you have there, want to come to my place and play soccer in my back yard?"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 06:16 PM
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This would not be a great outcome except for the regained years. I would use the opportunity to do academics a lot better this time around. If I had the same mind I'd still be attracted to women. I'd probably get gay married after I started my new career and settle into a comfortable bed death.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 10:25 PM
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Cynthia Nixon, really? Also ~ Swinton had a kind of unconventional attractiveness when she was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 06:33 PM
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That does not seem like a huge accommodation. Yeah, I prefer games that are grounded in reality as much as possible, but taking out one aspect of reality doesn't exactly cause suspension of disbelief to crash down like a Jenga tower.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 03:31 AM
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As a roleplayer and sometime GM, I'm kind of curious what bending over backwards to accommodate women in your RPG club looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 11:01 PM
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I know. As I said I don't necessarily agree with this dichotomy, but it seems closer to the truth than AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:46 PM
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Girls have been into Pokemon forever. Men don't have claim on every nerdly pursuit by default. Women have been writing Star Trek slash and singing filk since the 70's for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 06:05 PM
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But this kind of thing gets signal-boosted by mainstream feminist sites all the time. I ran into that article on Skepchick. It may be that only a minority of women and even feminists think that way, but in the social media reshare environment, the perception is different. And over time social perception becomes social reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 05:26 PM
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I wonder how many of the more vocal incels are the ljbf guy, though, vs. the kind of guy who has very few friends. That kind of anger tends to come from a deeper isolation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 11:07 PM
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It's hard to alliterate ch words, nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 06:38 PM
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It's only been an hour, chill
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:01 PM
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Combing your chest pelt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:23 PM
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Lowering standards is easy for men, but not for women. Only to a point. This difference of degree, not kind; women just can't lower their standards as much as men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 12:27 AM
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That's insightful and surprisingly self-aware. If you wouldn't mind, could you explain the differences between foreveralone, incel, and black pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 06:26 AM
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I was going to say "Netflix," but I have to acknowledge that for some people it's really hard to let go of their expectations for the world. I suspect it correlates with covert narcissism, which voteGOPk helpfully suggested might correlate with being an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 06:24 AM
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Kill the incel, save the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 02:22 AM
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I wouldn't rule this out as something that happens, but it seems unlikely to be common.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 08:18 PM
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Except "women" is used in a lot more contexts than "incels." Incels are mostly known for the communities they've created. I'd wager over 90% of people who have heard the term did so directly or indirectly because of one of these communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 08:16 PM
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Personally I don't have problems with generalities based in reality, like "women tend to be more attracted to conventionally attractive men." I do have problems with generalities based on pure spite, like "women are not rational adults" or "women are dishonest and mercenary in a way that is fundamentally different from men." Edit: attracted to, not attractive to
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 07:22 PM
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I think a lot of people get into sports fandom for this exact reason, so there is something with which they can converse with the majority of the people they meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 04:35 PM
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This seems like an extremely generous reading of TRP's views about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 10:07 PM
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Do you mean this literally, like all women have had or will have large numbers of partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 09:23 PM
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Usually there's some other factor or factors that compensate for mismatches in looks. Charm, money, etc. Also not every woman (or man for that matter) emphasizes looks equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 09:19 PM
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The ratios are inverted for alcoholism. It's probably the same thing manifesting differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 11:10 PM
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An alternative hypothesis: the internet is addicted to outrage, and terper beliefs are sufficiently different from the norm to outrage some people. I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh just because it made me feel righteous anger (against him). I can assure you, he was and is almost always wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 10:58 PM
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Thanks, but it's just common sense and trivial observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 11:36 PM
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"LMAO, pussy isnt currency. Why do you think guys even tolerate girls around them." What a demented thing to say. I question whether you actually know many men. Most of us are quite capable of enjoying the company of women we're not attracted to, or when either we or the women are unavailable sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 11:02 PM
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If a guy is romantically interested, but not being pushy or crossing boundaries, do you still think he deserves "yuck, get away from me!" Actually I've never seen a woman do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 09:44 PM
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Why is it inconceivable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:27 PM
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"You are not entitled" Well obviously not. But this is a bad way to frame it, it taps into the kind of spergy literalist strain of feminism we've seen in the last few years. Relationships are about mutual connection, and if one person doesn't want to do basic relationship things (assuming the relationship started out with them) then there is an issue that needs to be worked out mutually. It's not necessarily a problem withthe person being spurned--or with the person doing the spurning. What an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 06:03 PM
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One thing to consider from the woman's end: wealthy men are more rare than young women, even attractive young women, so it should not be surprising that a wealthy man could find a young woman to marry him. We could expect this to be true even if a small proportion of attractive young women were interested, so it can't tell us much about women's preferences in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 05:41 PM
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Clearly you already accept the Red Pill framework. I guess using any kind of not-gray flair kind of does. I chose purple because I find a fair number of RP ideas useful, some absurd and/or hateful, and a whole lot of their approach to knowledge to be deeply broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 09:09 PM
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Yeah I guess women didn't talk to adults in the ancestral environment, my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 06:41 AM
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It's often said (correctly) that bloopers don't give evolutionary psychology enough credit. But really, terpers don't respect it either. Otherwise they wouldn't try to pass off poorly-reasoned armchair speculation as legitimate evolutionary science. This, for instance: "The difference is that women have difficulty calibrating their interaction to the sex of the person in front of them because they are trained to deal with children of both sexes, which require the same nurturing response. Men MUS…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 06:38 PM
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Wait, 4 SD below average, as in 40 IQ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 03:57 PM
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The earlier thread about TRP being a kind of therapy is relevant here--it's not about the truth, it's about helping men feel better about themselves by tearing down women. It's not GOOD therapy, but that's a better model for understanding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 02:21 AM
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People have the right to feel however they want in a given situation. What's at issue is whether you can get someone in trouble because of those feelings, or otherwise assume that other people should automatically accept your feelings as an accurate representation of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 05:39 AM
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This was certainly true for F. Scott Fitzgerald and his wife Zelda.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 10:58 PM
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