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No I don’t have kids (I am a teenager myself), but it is quite apparent that socialisation shapes how kids grow up. The whole “boys are naturally more rebellious and energetic” and “girls are soft and kind” bull shit is just meant to push down harmful gender stereotypes down our throats. Also I don’t understand why you compare us to dogs? I think we should stop gendering basic personality traits and I think that would improve our society because putting a person in some rigid framework just beca…
/r/MensRights11/08/26 08:45 PM
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Bio-essentialism is a very bad hole to fall into. I think you should not think that our sex determines our personality to that degree and accept socialisation has a more profound influence on our behaviour
/r/MensRights11/08/26 05:02 PM
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Benevolent sexism is sexism so it literally harms women just in a different way. It frames them as weak and in need of protection so that strips them of being equal agents and justifies keeping them out of power. Also this is literally not misandry. It would be misandristic if it stem from a hatred of men which it, OBVIOUSLY, does not. But it does put a burden on men. That’s why sexism against women hurts both women AND men
/r/MensRights09/08/26 05:09 PM
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Definitely yeah. Unfortunately the most radical ones are usually in power
/r/MensRights09/08/26 04:29 PM
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The post addresses serious issue, although the point that feminism caused it is just not there. Completely forgot to mention how there exist gender norms that women are inherently “innocent, pure and soft” therefore they are unable to commit crimes or be petulant at school. It really isn’t misandry, it is just benevolent sexism 🤷‍♂️
/r/MensRights09/08/26 07:18 AM
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Most normal feminists I have spoken to, which means excluding radfems, literally acknowledge this as a problem. I really feel like outside of reddit which is filled with both sides of the extremes, feminists are generally much more aware of the messy reality and that both sexes have their issues. Could be my own experience I guess?
/r/MensRights09/08/26 07:06 AM
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Addressed none of what I said and ranted about something else. I will never understand this obsession redditors have to talk about their own thing instead of addressing the actual claim. Feels like I am talking to a child. For the record, I was talking about internal traits on how to build a relationship. You completely flipped the topic and started talking about who provides for whom.
/r/MensRights30/07/26 01:04 PM
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Strawman fallacy. Not even going to interact further, if you can’t attack the statement then just remain silent. That easy
/r/MensRights30/07/26 11:04 AM
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Incel propaganda what is this bullshit
/r/MensRights30/07/26 10:59 AM
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Education usually in most cases correlates to higher emotional intelligence, better cognitive skills and abilities, better communication, better decision taking and more. Basically a lot of the essentials for a relationship to actually function. It really takes just a little bit of thinking to figure this out
/r/MensRights30/07/26 10:56 AM
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Of course men were happier when they held most of the money, the wife had to obey and stay at home and basically surrender to her husband. No shit they were happier when they had the undisputed authority in their household
/r/MensRights30/07/26 10:53 AM
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How the fuck is this discrimination? Education usually in most cases correlates to higher emotional intelligence, better cognitive skills and abilities, better communication, better decision taking and more. Basically a lot of the essentials for a relationship to actually function. Is it really discriminating if those women just refuse to comply and date someone who isn’t on their level? And again this is NOT an absolute claim. Of course there are men who are non-graduates and have all those qua…
/r/MensRights30/07/26 10:47 AM
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So funny you focused on only one part of my claim and completely ignored everything else. Thank you for indirectly conceding. Also you can’t make a generalised and universal claim with just your personal experience. Not that your experience is invalid, I am saying that whilst I am talking broadly, you are focusing on a personal experience we can’t argue about. Sorry you had to go through it, as I said it does happen (don’t put words in my mouth, never said you are dramatic. You said that and pur…
/r/MensRights29/07/26 11:58 AM
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I genuinely think you need to go outside because this can’t be further away from the truth and apart from the few femcel communities saying shit like this, this just DOES NOT happen. It is a fact that conservative values promote gender stereotypes that are linked with suppressing emotions, put an emphasis on the role of a “provider” for a man which is obviously a burden, trying to live up to those societal expectations of what a man should be and also attacking people who don’t conform to these …
/r/MensRights29/07/26 11:18 AM
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Don’t you think that suicide rates are actually more heavily influenced by the traditional and conservative gender stereotypes that are upheld in society? Exactly the ones that say a man “should bottle up their emotions”? Liberal views, if anything, promote mental health
/r/MensRights28/07/26 10:39 PM
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Yeah and that is too close minded and restrictive. Strips your individuality and freedom away. And also it doesn’t work
/r/MensRights28/07/26 10:36 PM
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Actual and real feminist are not like that. They don’t stand for this
/r/MensRights28/07/26 10:34 PM
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I don’t understand this. Women are just able to qualify for the university? You just have to study harder and pass the exams and have a great admission portfolio. This is gender neutral however you look at it
/r/MensRights28/07/26 10:31 PM
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Yes, sorry I apologise. After looking at a few studies I actually understood that reality is much messier and I made the same mistake as some people here to just make a too strong and absolute claim. In reality we just know that women on average tend to exhibit more supportive attitudes toward male sexual assault victims than men in some cases. This actually really changed my view on this topic, turns out that women are not always more supportive than men and it varies a lot
/r/MensRights28/07/26 02:05 PM
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Why are you reducing this category of men to just “sex addicts” and not placing the necessary moral weight on them whilst shifting that moral weight and responsibility on women (by the way I have no idea with what femcels you have spoken to, but I have never seen a parallel case where women to that scale have belittled men’s SA). I really think you are trying to frame women as the ultimate villains here, but reality isn’t reflecting this. Now obviously both men and women can stigmatise and belit…
/r/MensRights27/07/26 10:21 PM
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Unfortunately yeah the reality is that some conservative and traditional states still think that only a man can be a perpetrator of rape and only a woman can be a victim, I don’t deny that. Underreported SA are actually true for both genders, even if men do experience it at higher rates but it is important to note that the imbalance is still there. Women would still the majority Everything else you mentioned is subjective personal experience that does happen, but we can’t be sure of how often th…
/r/MensRights27/07/26 09:41 PM
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I see you have never seen a comment section under a post where a guy talks about his experience where it is filled with mainly other men saying how “lucky” he is etc. I have very rarely seen women saying that. The key word here is rarely. There are both sides of the spectrum as always, I am just saying that it is usually other men belittling and mocking, not women
/r/MensRights27/07/26 03:15 PM
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Yes you are right, the point is to help victims. But we are not arguing about that. I genuinely think you and the other people in this comment thread are just putting words in my mouth and assuming I am a certain person without even implying it in any way. Again I think we both agree on this topic, I was just correcting your statement that it happens at the same rates (i might have understood that).
/r/MensRights27/07/26 01:35 PM
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Well I condemn people like this. Genuinely how cruel do you have to be as a human being to say something like this I can’t believe how people like that exist. I am not claiming that though and I stand firmly on the opinion that every victim of whatever abuse deserves help, support and kindness and gender doesnt matter
/r/MensRights27/07/26 01:31 PM
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Dude those statistics compare the data between men and women victims based on reports. There is a baseline 😭
/r/MensRights27/07/26 12:54 PM
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Yes, that’s true the statistics do show that during arguments a similar percentage of men and women report that their partner might have shoved or slapped them, but the physical harm difference is obviously much larger. That doesn’t discredit men but it does point to the fact that women most times do suffer more from that. Additionally (this is what I pointed out in my first comment) women are much more likely to get hospitalised by DV, suffer from marital rape (which goes both ways as do the pr…
/r/MensRights27/07/26 12:53 PM
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I think the point is, same as domestic violence rates and sexual assaults, that women experience it more frequently than men, not that men don’t. Making the conclusion that it is just reality and it happens to everybody is just disregarding the fact that the majority are women and is disrespecting the experience of those women. That doesn’t invalidate men’s experiences, it just shows that there is an imbalance
/r/MensRights27/07/26 11:44 AM
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How privileged of you. Gosh you have no idea how bad it is outside of your progressive bubble of a western country
/r/MensRights25/07/26 09:40 AM
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I think feminist just view it from a specific angle but at the same time that doesn’t mean that it is making it about them. For example as we all know and have seen feminine men are ostracised exactly for being feminine but i really doubt someone is making a conscious decision to hate on a man for his feminine behaviour. I think it often comes down to the gender stereotypes we have in society and when we see a man doing a gesture that is associated with women’s behaviour, some brains flag it as …
/r/MensRights25/07/26 09:21 AM
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I don’t want to take a position, but if we assume what you are saying is correct, it is definitely only in the west. Here in eastern europe for example it is hell for women
/r/MensRights20/07/26 08:05 AM
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This is genuinely ridiculous 😭😭. Men are the ones perpetuating those gender stereotypes, very rarely women. Also it is weird to blame girls or boys for that because they are kids and they are socialised to think that way. I have never denied that women and girls are equally smart? I in-fact strongly believe in this and completely reject bio essentialism, something i often see support for in this subreddit. I think we actually hold a relatively alike position on this topic
/r/MensRights16/07/26 08:13 AM
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It did happen but the generalisation is building a narrative that some might pick up. Also I apologise my initial message was indeed insensitive and too blunt
/r/MensRights16/07/26 06:30 AM
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I also had an incredibly misandristic teacher who despised me and I had a lot of trouble with her because she adored them and did uplift their grades, so I know from experience that it exists BUT GUESS WHAT the opposite exists. It isn’t that widespread of an issue really. Also about that study yes teachers give girls better grades because there are other factors to a grade apart from the evaluation on the test. Activity in class, good behaviour and overall performance play important part in that…
/r/MensRights16/07/26 06:29 AM
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i am genuinely astounded by how ridiculous you are. The whole assumption I am a feminist (which I am) is true but why did you make that the center of your entire reply? Why do you need to bring feminism into this conversation? But yeah I don’t think that it is misogyny or femcide. Because sexual assault is rooted power, control and entitlement. There is nothing ideological behind it (at least in my opinion, a lot of other feminists disagree with that and think everything is misogyny). But also I…
/r/MensRights16/07/26 06:13 AM
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Boys are socialised to be more active, rebellious, bustling and action-oriented whilst yeah girls are socialised to be quiet and passive. So i guess yes those things are indeed in favour of girls but I think it is a societal problem rather than a misandristic Also I have never heard of many schools purposefully funding stuff only for girls? I am trying to say to not think of it as a gender issue that has its purpose to attack one group because of their gender, but think of it as a financial deci…
/r/MensRights15/07/26 09:38 PM
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Can we stop making gender neutral issues GENDERED? Dividing every struggle and issue by gender just perpetuates the cycle of hatred and does nothing positive. Fat men get shamed. Fat women get shamed. It isn’t about the gender and I don’t understand why people make it out to be
/r/MensRights15/07/26 06:57 PM
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I am not trying to oppose your opinion but genuinely isn’t the reason behind the lack of these methods in schools that it is simply cheaper to just have the classroom passive? All that equipment costs a lot of money and you also have to add that this would be more arduous for teachers in a way Please tell me if I am wrong these are just my thoughts
/r/MensRights14/07/26 05:45 AM
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Yeah, I agree with you. To me this is another thing that is gendered but actually goes both ways. If a person has feelings for a friend of theirs, they shouldn’t keep them up and instead try expressing them (of course in respectable terms and circumstances. If that friend is in a relationship, obviously don’t)
/r/MensRights12/07/26 06:23 PM
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I meant I don’t want adults to view my media history, it is basic privacy. Besides you creep me out lmao. I don’t see any actual converging evidence to back up the claim that “misandrist” feminism exists and impacts the world in any meaningful way. I meant that the woman in question accused OP not because of his essence as a man but rather because it was convenient. That’s how I see it. I empathise deeply with OP because that’s a horrible thing that shouldn’t happen to anybody. But it is not mis…
/r/MensRights12/07/26 08:06 AM
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You did not address why my statement is false tho? It is proven through studies that those gender stereotypes lead to overall worse mental health outcomes
/r/MensRights12/07/26 07:58 AM
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Yeah sorry I went off on a tangent. What you are saying is really horrible and you are correct to feel disgusted as I do too. Sadly a lot of political figures do not reflect the principles they should stand by
/r/MensRights11/07/26 09:49 PM
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I am a minor I don’t want weird adults accessing my media history. Also yeah I don’t feel like defending this because there isn’t really much to say - I find it incredibly unreasonable to promote ur ideology that supposedly “misadrist feminism” which doesn’t even exist caused that situation. It really wasn’t a specific gendered attack, the girl didn’t do it out of prejudice because he is a man. My point is we should empathise with OP instead of bringing up more and more things and starting point…
/r/MensRights11/07/26 09:45 PM
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Yeah that’s stupid women resorting to using the same patriarchal stereotypes and ideas they want to dismantle. You will see how they are contradicting themselves - they claim they hate the patriarchy but still cling to some of the benefits they have from it (being “protected”, expecting a man to take care of them etc)
/r/MensRights11/07/26 09:12 PM
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The issue at hand is that this isn’t just “oh he has different values”, in this case that guy is actively perpetuating objectively harmful gender stereotypes and ideologies that undermine psychological well-being of kids. But yeah OP definitely needs to get checked out but he is right to feel such strong aversion to this specifically
/r/MensRights11/07/26 09:08 PM
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The reason behind that is because we still operate under a lot of the norms installed by the patriarchy. Women are considered incapable and considered to have less value in the military, hence why they are excluded from mandatory military service. From my experience every feminist i have talked to is actually on the opinion that men shouldn’t do conscription. As a guy myself I actually have noticed that only men (my age and older) upheld and perpetuate the belief that it is “manly”, and an “hono…
/r/MensRights11/07/26 08:57 PM
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I am crine did you seriously use what happened to OP to reference, defend and promote your idea that “misandrist feminism” caused this? How obtuse
/r/MensRights11/07/26 08:49 PM
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Some of my thoughts on this though. First, just because patriarchy is optimized for men doesn’t mean that they benefit in every way. Due to patriarchal norms men are socialised to suppress emotions for example. Also I don’t see how the facts you listed deny the existence of the patriarchy. For example where you said that some women could vote before 1914 in england. That’s like saying “well female scientists existed therefore women weren’t excluded from science at all”. The modern statistics you…
/r/MensRights07/06/26 05:02 PM
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Okay I might actually need to do more research lmao thank you for educating me
/r/MensRights07/06/26 04:48 PM
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If it was embedded into society and masculinity, then why don’t we see traditional values being the same all across the globe in different cultures? There are and there were matriarchal societies and the understanding of masculinity varies in different cultures. My point is that gender roles are highly socially constructed and flexible. This doesn’t mean that there aren’t biological tendencies, it just means that the reality is much more complex than just saying that “traditionalism isn’t just a…
/r/MensRights07/06/26 12:10 PM
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how can you deny something so evident and apparent throughout history. Patriarchy is a system where men, as a group, hold institutional power and authority over women. One thing for example is that women couldn’t vote until modern era and women couldn’t own property or money independently. What the fuck was the point of your comment??
/r/MensRights07/06/26 07:16 AM
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First, it is really contradictory to me how can men for most of history have the institutional power, yet you say they are the disadvantaged and oppressed group. Second, genuinely why are you viewing relationships like some sort of a math equation when they are far messier than this. Humans are conscious and we are capable of choice and reflection. Therefore even if some sort of biological patterns exist, that doesn’t mean we are obligated to follow them. In my opinion the fact that women throug…
/r/MensRights07/06/26 07:12 AM
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Not going to dismantle all of the other asininity you yapped about, but please do not view homosexuality as a “western ideology” or that crap. It is a fundamental part of someone’s identity that isn’t at all influenced by your views because you can’t change it. There have been gay people since beginning of civilisations (you can research about the native americans, the Egyptians, ancient Mesopotamia etc) and there are gay people from both left and right. Why would Grindr crash when republicans w…
/r/MensRights06/06/26 04:08 PM
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It really isn’t when you look at how common domestic violence is in women and how sever it is. I can imagine that it feels unfair and uncomfortable to be constantly looked with suspicion but it really does happen often enough for those social services workers to think like this. I am not saying your reaction is unreasonable - it really is very human and understandable, but at the same time you have to realise that those social services workers have seen so many cases that their brains subconscio…
/r/MensRights06/06/26 12:36 PM
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It is sort of common sense I won’t elaborate much just going to say that patriarchal values remain today. They affect men (stereotypes that men shouldn’t express emotions, should be dominant, should always work etc) and women (socialising women to be submissive and compliant). These social norms lead to many of the issues we face today. For gay men it is mainly because homosexuality directly challenges the established by patriarchy standard that a relationship can only be build between a man (wh…
/r/MensRights06/06/26 08:03 AM
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I think that you are describing a traditionalist worldview rather than answering the question OP asked. I can assure you that women and gay men tending to get along doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with whatever you are talking about and more to do with other factors such as gender expectations, patriarchal oppression and safety (women know those men aren’t going to try getting with them). Also why are you treating homosexuality as inherently opposing to family? That’s a philosophical cla…
/r/MensRights05/06/26 07:57 PM
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In my experience as someone from Eastern Europe it is because women here tend to be more progressive than men. I am not gay myself, but I have some gay acquaintances and I literally see it myself - they receive hate from other men and women are usually the ones that comfort and support them. It is a whole another conversation that to some degree they definitely do take advantage of them. One girl outed a boy because they had an argument. She seemed like a supportive person on the outside but the…
/r/MensRights05/06/26 07:25 PM
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Yes because in Latin america it is less accepted to be out of the closet. That doesn’t mean the women are not queer there? 😭 Do you actually think before writing lmfao
/r/MensRights04/06/26 09:36 PM
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Why do you even bring feminism in this conversation? Women did it all by themselves and build it for themselves. If you do your research you can see mind blowing laws that were a reality until a few decades ago. Only in 1993 did marital rape became a crime. Think about that. Both genders face oppression. As a man myself it has always been another man that tormented me and women always stood by me and helped me. If you are a genuinely good person, they see it and understand
/r/MensRights04/06/26 09:30 PM
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The problem is that men struggle because of standards and stereotypes MADE by men and upheld by men. Yes, sometimes women also do but it is mostly other men that perpetuate them. Many women hate men because of their experiences with men. Also something I often see is the self-centering that most men perform. They see a post on social media where a woman says that most rapists are men (which is a fact by the way) and suddenly in the comments everyone is like “oh but I am not like this I feel so o…
/r/MensRights04/06/26 09:24 PM
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