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https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america Is 2018 50 years ago? Man I'm old. Also if you're gonna say "No they're just lying" to all data in favor of your existing belief there's really no point in looking at any data, is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:14 PM
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The divorce and relationship statistics thing is BS, because the most common reason women leave men is "mental cruelty," not boredom. And from what I've seen, most women are talking about what they've seen in general and offering themselves as exceptions. If women are more impulsive and less committed, why are men more likely to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 09:38 PM
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What makes it so likely that all the women are exceptions and you and op aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 09:07 PM
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That's interesting. I think a factor might be that I'm an actress - I'm not gonna gain weight or stop taking care of myself period, and the people I'm dating are mainly in the industry so they can't either. I want to be able to wear sweatpants at home and not wear makeup around my partner, and be silly/goofy - that's my definition of comfortable. I can see how a relationship where people let themselves go can be undesirable. Then again I also don't value my peers' opinion of my dating life as mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:38 PM
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Not trying to cope, just saying that someone who has any out-of-your-control expectation for their child is probably an unfit parent, regardless of whether that expectation is ultimately met. I have a beautiful mom, a beautiful dad, and a sister born with a red and purple growth the size of a golf ball above her eye. If their relationship was built on the beautiful children they'll make, that might have been a lot harder than it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:23 PM
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https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2017/11/29/personality-more-important-looks-across-globe Sure people could lie, but if your argument is "they must be lying," you must know you're taking an infalsifiable stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:04 PM
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This is fallacious and unfalsifiable. "Hey women, y'all are like this" "No we're actually not here are my thoughts and feelings that I see mirrored in my friends and others I know" "Well then y'all are lying or an exception" What if instead of assuming that the RomCom version of What Women Want is the truth and asserting that they're all wrong for disagreeing, we tried listening to women who might know a little better about their own psyches?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 04:12 PM
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THIS. The games get old sooo fast, and more often than not, once those are boring there's nothing real there. Just be loving and supportive, appreciate what I do for you, and find time to spend with me every once in a while. No one wants an exotic vacation more than 5 days a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 04:03 PM
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That's interesting. One of my first relationships was based on VERY strong mutual attraction and lasted about 27 days before I decided it wasn't worth it to be with someone I didn't want to spend hours talking to or couldn't be totally myself around for fear I wouldn't be as sexy anymore. Since then I've strongly prioritized personality and only dated people after a couple months of friendship (not on purpose, that was just how it worked out) and everything about those relationships has been bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:55 PM
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Maybe they age well, maybe they don't, but you're going to be spending most of your time in a relationship not having sex, especially when you're older. That time is more important to most women I know at least. Also I'm definitely not going to be eternally grateful to have been bestowed beautiful children. I'd much rather my children be intelligent, selfless, compassionate, insightful, and confident enough in their own value that their appearance is not the most important thing in their lives. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:46 PM
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071129145852.htm This is a super shallow take. We've been together for years - he's slipped up many times and obviously has many flaws I didn't know about before we were together (as is the case in all relationships). And I'm definitely not deluding myself. Certain personality traits are proven to make people more likely to be perceived as attractive (see above). It's worth noting that he's not unattractive at all - just against my type and not someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:39 PM
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Not necessarily. I have had relationships in which attraction came first and ones in which personality caused a person to seem more sexually attractive, and have known many people with similar experiences. OLD is really the only setting where attractiveness is a prerequisite (and bars/clubs in some contexts, but who honestly goes to a club to meet their wife/husband)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:36 AM
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We have an extremely fulfilling sexual relationship. About 90% of the women I know would agree that intelligence, sense of humor, kindness, and other traits can be sexy. My romantic and sexual attraction with Punic Wars Guy was and still is off the charts - and he appeared much more physically attractive to me once I started liking him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:49 AM
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That's true - but conversation makes a big difference. I've gone out with GORGEOUS men I had had a crush on for months and figured out rapidly that we really weren't right for each other because we wanted vastly different things in life. I've had a conversation with a guy I would ordinarily never notice and been seduced by a HILARIOUS and riskily obscure joke about the Punic Wars (not good general advice obviously, I'm just a dork, but you get the idea). I've been with that particular man for ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:41 AM
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On OLD, yes - for traditional dating not so much. I obviously can't speak for all women but when looking for relationships (not hookups) I've generally seen myself and my friends go for less conventionally attractive men who we get along with better over even nice, attractive guys who just aren't as compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:33 AM
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I'm going to disagree that that's the imperative - at least in long-term relationships (if you're tallking short-term disregard this completely). Isn't it better to find someone who's most attracted to/turned on by your personality, sense of humor, etc.? People get less attractive as they get older in almost all cases. In the long run, it's better to be desirable in ways that last.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:27 AM
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46.1% of single mothers are divorced or widowed. Of the remaining 34%, 2% fall into the "contraceptive failure" category. I don't think the morning after pill is fair game here because you can't always tell when a condom is faulty, you have no reason to take the morning after pill if you're sterilized or using a hormonal contraceptive properly, etc. So that leaves 52% who had kids out of wedlock either without using contraceptives (or while misusing contraceptives) or intentionally conceived out…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 11:21 PM
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But why do you think that? If it's an assumption based on what is generally agreed upon, I would consider seeking evidence either for or against and seeing what you find. Surely you can understand rationally that people who are good decision makers can experience negative outcomes. Many marriages end for reasons that would not be foreseeable at the outset. This includes death. 11% of ALL women aged 18-65 are widows. They're not some rare, mythical species. 5% of all unplanned pregnancies happen …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 10:22 PM
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To the first part, that changes the definition of poor judgement then - you're now saying everyone who has done something riskier than getting married has poor judgement, and that anyone who embarks on something that ends badly is a bad decision maker. There goes the whole human race. To your second point - I don't believe that single mothers who were divorced, widowed, or got pregnant despite being cautious are the exception. From what I've seen from people I know irl, it's much more common tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 10:06 PM
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How? If half of marriages end in divorce, and the average marriage does not last long enough for a child to be of age, does that mean half of all people just have poor judgement, or that the outcome of marriage is unpredictable? Women could also be widows. Contraceptives can fail. Women who don't have a partner but want children can be a single parent by choice. Unless you choose to have unprotected sex or there was an obvious red flag with a partner (which is highly subjective), being a single …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 09:31 PM
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Yes, it's somewhere between 40 and 50, but children make divorce more likely, so it's going to disproportionately result in single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 09:19 PM
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The average marriage lasts 8 years and produces 2 children in the United States as of 2012.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 09:15 PM
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I think there's probably something to that. The only time I was ever tempted to cheat on a partner was the month between him becoming complacent to the point that he literally no longer cared at all if I was enjoying myself and me leaving him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:08 PM
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I know, just assumed more input is better than less. Plus I've got a feeling I might be some kind of record holder on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:10 PM
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Going for the gold with 4'11. I'm 5'6.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:51 PM
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But painful sex is something that, particularly in casual encounters but also in relationships, is sort of the norm for many women. Having sex with a partner who doesn't care for foreplay or doesn't mind if you don't get off is not only annoying and frustrating, but physically painful before and after. I don't believe women who aren't fully lubricated having sex with men when it's going to be painful for them too is as common, but I've never been a heterosexual man so maybe I just don't realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:58 PM
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But for example, an unattractive man who is kind, funny, and intelligent could be appealing to a woman who just happens to value those things, and unappealing to someone who doesn't. She doesn't necessarily have to be "damaged" or have an "ulterior motive" and probably isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 09:22 PM
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What does that even mean? If a woman wants to have sex and has sex, how does she lose? Casual sex isn't a zero-sum-game last I checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:28 AM
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As a relatively uninhibited woman who finds so-called Chads to be generally unattractive, I think you need to consider that if you are primarily occupied with a woman's looks, the women you'll be drawn to will be the ones who are primarily occupied with men's looks. I'm conventionally attractive and have been pursued (never successfully) by "Chads," but I'm more frequently approached by (or at least I more frequently notice) people who prioritize personality and intelligence because that's what …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:27 AM
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Woman here. Hell yes it does. Would SO much rather be with someone unattractive and super smart than handsome and ugly. Every woman I know who's in the 120+ IQ range agrees. Stupidity is one of the biggest turnoffs out there, second only to bad breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 11:30 PM
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I think most people are frequently unnecessarily illogical, especially when upset. The rest are sociopaths. I have noticed that men are more like to try to talk their way out of it when they're being illogical, leading to the illusion of logic. I obviously don't represent all women, but I kind of just start crying when things go wrong, which makes how emotional I am more obvious. Still, the man in the situation who's defensively using semantics and turning every issue into right versus wrong is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 02:32 PM
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And yet you're defending your preconceived notion. You ask why women feel a certain way, and when woman after woman explains that we DON'T feel that way, you continue to affirm that we must. I think that this is a natural human thing though. I like feeling strong and independent sometimes, and at work and in my social life I'm almost always in a leadership role. But when I'm upset or insecure, it's nice to be able to act "weak" and have my boyfriend take care of me as if I wasn't fully capable o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 03:28 PM
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I think most people who meet long-term partners via OLD were looking for a long-term partner, and I think it's borderline impossible to meet a long-term partner online if you're looking for hookups. That's not to say that most people on OLD fit into that category; just that OLD relationships don't count as an example of long-term relationships evolving from casual sex. You also don't profile someone totally from their Tinder bio; you meet them in person and that informs your opinion. Also most f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:28 PM
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I think that means online dating to meet people though. I know couples who have met online, but they were on dating apps specifically looking for partners and not hookups or casual sex. Looking online for a partner for multiple years, you're going to look for different qualities than when you want an fwb or ons. Also I think the friendzone is not always the case because people can both be attracted to each other from the start of their friendship. Me and my current (long-term) boyfriend were bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 04:11 PM
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Do you have data on most LTRs evolving from casual sex? Almost everyone I know in a LTR was either dating with the intention of finding a long-term partner at the time or went from friends to dating. I don't think I actually know anyone who had a real romantic relationship that started as a hookup... like literally anyone, come to think of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:51 PM
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I agree completely - I've never heard of men creating"blossoming, mysterious romances" outside of RomComs. Most of the time, from what I've observed, the goal in things like planning dates or buying flowers is to make the other person happy, not an obligatory "monkey dance," and most women (who have been in relationships ranging from 1-20 years) I know make an effort just as often to surprise their partners with gifts, dates, and pampering. Besides, I don't expect actual real life romance to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:12 PM
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Most people prefer normal conversation to smooth talking in my experience, and if you're looking for a relationship I'd say it's better to be a relatively normal person with little experience than a pickup artist with a lot of experience. When I started dating my SO no part of me was turned off or on by the fact that he was a virgin, I was just psyched that I found someone who was fun to talk to and who I had a lot in common with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:27 PM
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If a woman is attracted to you, she's not going to care about women finding you unattractive in the past, especially if your situation has changed. If your problem was to do with your personality or behavior that would be more relevant because it would cause potential partners that had liked you before they knew to reconsider.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:12 PM
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Like I said, 2018. The source is University of Glasgow, and the sample size is 15,000, making this the largest study of its kind (I believe it's also considered the most representative based on the demographic distributions of the sample size): https://www.gla.ac.uk/researchinstitutes/healthwellbeing/research/mrccsosocialandpublichealthsciencesunit/sharingourevidence/news/headline_598913_en.html
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 06:18 PM
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Do you have more recent stats that lead you to believe that? Or was there some kind of event that you think was significant enough to greatly change sexual practices of people of all different ages in less than three years? I mean I guess the pandemic might have decreased numbers but we probably wouldn't see the effects of that for a few years, and even then mostly only in younger people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 06:40 AM
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The most promiscuous men had 110+ partners, while the most promiscuous women had 50+. The average was 14 for men and 7 for women. Additionally, men were twice as likely to see casual sex as "not wrong at all," and 8% more likely to think extramarital affairs are acceptable under certain circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:34 PM
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Do you really believe that? Men have twice as many sexual partners in their lives as women on average. There are many, many men who qualify as "manwhores," they're just not as frequently labeled that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 06:48 PM
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