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| 5 | Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate?If a woman had written an article advising other women to say "no" just to "test" men, I'm sure there'd be lots of people criticizing her. But since this is about a man writing an article telling other men to "not let her ignore you" and "don't let her gain control of the situation", it only seems natural to me that they're criticizing what the author said rather than inferring the existence of women on whom this tactic works and criticizing them. But, you know, men and women flirt and fuck and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 04:40 AM |
| 3 | Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate?To me, a tiny amount of women responding positively to a certain PUA tactic isn't a "market force". Maybe I'm using a different definition of "market force" than you. More importantly, even if you are using the term "market force" correctly, it's wrong to blame those tiny amount of women who do respond positively rather than blaming the men who go "I don't care if I'm being a rude jerk to 99+% of women, if I keep doing it for long enough eventually I'll score". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 04:00 AM |
| 2 | Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate?No, my objections to the advice are moral. My remarks about it only needing to work a tiny amount of the time isn't an objection to the original article, but an objection to your remark about "market forces". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate?Women instinctively use indifference or even antagonism in these scenarios as a way of testing male strength and insubordination. So at what point do you go "okay, this woman genuinely isn't interested"? Let's stick with "approaching women wearing headphones" as an example: You stand in front of her while waving so she sees you. She ignores you and steps around you. So you catch up and stand in front of her again. She steps around you again. How many times do you repeat before concluding she gen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 02:50 AM |
| 3 | Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate?It can even be a really tiny percentage of women. It only has to work often enough to inspire those for whom it worked to write this type of article. This leads some men to believe it works and they go out and perpetuate the cycle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 01:54 AM |
| 6 | Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate?It isn't the "approach a woman with headphones" that generates the venom, but the things like "don't let her ignore you" and "don't let her gain control of the encounter". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 01:26 AM |
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