Matthew_Cline Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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2	Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate? What is more inherently immoral about the male part in this drama? Why must the locus of shame reside entirely with male desire? ... Why must it always only be the men who are condemned? Why not both, or neither? Look, I explicitly said that I don't care about the sexes in such a situation, but only care about who's being a jerk. Do you think that, secretly, what I really care about is who's the man and who's the woman, and that what I said is merely a justification to make it look like I don't …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 11:13 PM
6	Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate? I don't want to stop women from fucking/marrying these types of men. What I want to stop, in general, is people going "acting like a big jerk pisses off 99 people but gets results from 1 person, so I'm ignore the fact that it pisses off those 99 people because it gets me what I want". In situations like that I place much more blame on the person being a jerk (regardless of their sex) than on the person who rewards the jerk (regardless of their sex), because the jerk is directly being a jerk whil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 05:58 AM
3	Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate? I'm not sure what you mean. Women who actually do refuse don't need any advice. It's women who say no to test men who need to be advised to either outright refuse or to stop testing men like that. Or do you mean something else?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 05:28 AM
4	Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate? What if a woman were to write an article advising other women to say "no" to men who behave like this? Or a man, even. Why don't you? Why don't women? What is the problem with this? Probably because they'd feel like they'd be preaching to the choir. I certainly would. I feel the chance that if a woman uses the tactic of saying "no" to "test" men that there's a vanishingly small chance that she'd read anything I wrote. If we want to improve on human nature why don't we tell women to stop respondi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 05:11 AM
5	Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate? If a woman had written an article advising other women to say "no" just to "test" men, I'm sure there'd be lots of people criticizing her. But since this is about a man writing an article telling other men to "not let her ignore you" and "don't let her gain control of the situation", it only seems natural to me that they're criticizing what the author said rather than inferring the existence of women on whom this tactic works and criticizing them. But, you know, men and women flirt and fuck and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 04:40 AM
3	Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate? To me, a tiny amount of women responding positively to a certain PUA tactic isn't a "market force". Maybe I'm using a different definition of "market force" than you. More importantly, even if you are using the term "market force" correctly, it's wrong to blame those tiny amount of women who do respond positively rather than blaming the men who go "I don't care if I'm being a rude jerk to 99+% of women, if I keep doing it for long enough eventually I'll score".	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 04:00 AM
2	Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate? No, my objections to the advice are moral. My remarks about it only needing to work a tiny amount of the time isn't an objection to the original article, but an objection to your remark about "market forces".	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 03:47 AM
1	Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate? Women instinctively use indifference or even antagonism in these scenarios as a way of testing male strength and insubordination. So at what point do you go "okay, this woman genuinely isn't interested"? Let's stick with "approaching women wearing headphones" as an example: You stand in front of her while waving so she sees you. She ignores you and steps around you. So you catch up and stand in front of her again. She steps around you again. How many times do you repeat before concluding she gen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 02:50 AM
3	Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate? It can even be a really tiny percentage of women. It only has to work often enough to inspire those for whom it worked to write this type of article. This leads some men to believe it works and they go out and perpetuate the cycle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 01:54 AM
6	Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate? It isn't the "approach a woman with headphones" that generates the venom, but the things like "don't let her ignore you" and "don't let her gain control of the encounter".	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/16 01:26 AM