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discussionMax-Paul2022/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/24 05:58 AM
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I'm starting to see why so many queer folk are in on the new trans activist agenda. You, like both groups, recast typical and normal gender flexibility, and pragmatism, as Queer. In so doing, you deny and eradicate the history of progressive change whereby, inter alia, rigid gender roles had been largely dissolved, except for those who chose otherwise, thus giving us a sorta "liberal utopia". in this one area, at least. Thanks to the scarce few sensible core tenets of basic, 2nd Feminism/common …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/24 06:32 AM
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Hence, via obfuscation, they are an enemy of The Left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 03:05 AM
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Have you seen what they do to their own? If you deviate at all from the script they dogpile you like crazy. I thought it was all misandry til I saw that. Unbelievable cruelty. Online safety bills to protect women...ya gotta be kidding me! They're, by far, the worst offenders.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 03:01 AM
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<3 very well said
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 02:55 AM
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Well, the implicit claim is that all men are complicit in patriarchy, ignoring the reality of powerless working class men. Then, on top of that, they (Democrats and Labour) have abandoned workers' issues entirely. Feminists defend this position using intersectionality, which is its own form of incrementalism, that excludes the needs of white working class men. Plus there's their use of the label, "economic reductionist", which is a glaringly Orwellian term for an actual Marxist!!! So, Feminism i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 02:54 AM
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Yes. But I do think pointing out facts to them has not worked too well. Therefore we should put them on trial, in a manner of speaking, and accuse them publicly of defeating left wing action by deflecting from the true nature of power with their nonsense patriarchy theories...even if it's just on a Facebook comment section...or whatever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 02:40 AM
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Plausible deniability is a major tactic for all women, but indispensable to Feminist operations. If you look closely, every word or phrase they use has at least two meanings. The more divisive one they wish to explore...or test in a pilot trial...and a safer fall-back interpretation. Same tactic is used in their use of deliberately ambiguous phrases, like, "Believe Women". Nowhere is this more evident than with the concept of Patriarchy which changes from moment to moment. But tends to mean a sy…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 02:36 AM
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Wow...best comment I've seen in a while. Thank You.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 02:26 AM
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Thanks. You're really speaking my language. I truly believe Feminism enjoys a hand in glove relationship with Neoliberalism. No question about it!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 02:23 AM
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Agreed. As I said, above, Patriarchy theory deflects from the truth about power. Which is more than a minor concern.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 02:20 AM
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Even worse, the myth of patriarchy deflects from how power actually works, and therefore ought to be of the utmost concern to The Left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 02:18 AM
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It's worse than that. They went from openly declaring this is a misogynist plot from men who enjoy harassing women, to allegations that the Trans activists are really Men's Rights Activists. Julie Bindel had definitely said this and I believe J.K. Rowling has said the same. Obviously, the standard misandry isn't great, but the second claim bothers me more. Partly because it is 100% untrue, obviously. But more so, because I feel these little thought motifs, once released into the wild, are a sort…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/24 01:26 AM
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Interesting theory. Will chew on that one. Thanks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/24 12:21 AM
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Well, that's for sure. We must never forget that. I frequently watch youtube videos with anti trans (anti gender ideology) campaigners, for example. Here and elsewhere, I beg the mostly conservative audience to, call it like it is, and start calling out the true culprits for this all of this, Feminism. It's all just Feminism. Same thing with videos about free speech and anti censorship issues. They have destroyed the capacity of both sides to have good faith dialogue, with their constant smears,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/24 12:11 AM
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It's very sad, indeed. But be it Brand or Dore, first woke came under scrutiny, now there are healthy signs of these people being able to call b.s. on Feminist shaming tactics and many other aspects of cancel culture.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/24 11:54 PM
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Warren Farrell — 'Men's greatest weakness is their facade of strength, and women's greatest strength is their facade of weakness.' Even being the greatest political force since the Catholic Church, they can still play at being helpless damsels needing a big strong man to save them, or, scolding mothers treating other adults as children, nagging, deriding and shaming them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/24 11:51 PM
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Thank You. That makes a lot of sense. But that depends on what audience you assume I am addressing, but grateful for your input, all the same. But, surely, any experienced MRA knows about conservative figures in the movement like Paul Elam, Mike Buchanan and Janice Fiamengo, along with other right wing adjacents like Karen Straughan and William Collins, as well as most of the other people over at honey badgers, XY crew/avfm and so on...?? Who else is there? It should be clear that the body of th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/24 11:18 PM
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Good observation. Pity it is so seldom acknowledged in our movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 10:50 PM
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Honestly, can you tell me, which part you do not understand? Do you understand that a theory necessarily works on assumptions, owing to a lack of "facts", and that some level of so-called "vagueness" is inevitable as a result? Please feel free to reply if you wrote the comment, are one of the three that liked the comment, or anyone else, for that matter. Thank You.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 10:48 PM
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I largely agree with the picture you painted, but, most of all, where you landed. Both the right and Feminists, combine to keep men in the strait jacket of gender roles. One side pretending they hate the other, but, yet, working hand in glove to not only enshrine certain gender roles for men, like the continuing sole obligation to provide. At the same time both sides promote special treatment for " the ladies", as and when suits.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 10:38 PM
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That resonates. I used to be a hell of a lot more like this. The good news is it didn't last. But I had to work on my fear of conflict for the guts of ten years. I dunno ...it seemed a long time anyway. But, yes, it is horrible and it is exhausting. It is a problem made worse by being isolated from males, or other accountable people, and, say, only having women in the family. Red pill aside, it's no good being around them all the time. It's just not healthy. I get pretty sick of just hanging aro…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 04:15 PM
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Amen to that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 03:21 PM
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As for you point about associations, I have mixed feelings. I deplore the people you're referring to and share your most valid disgust. However, I am almost as disgusted by the neoliberal feminist "left" as someone who views himself as a genuine traditional leftist. After it is they who are the subject of your original post. I still admire Paul Elam. But some of us had major reservations about his appearance on a similarly brain-dead right wing show called, Just Pearly Things. He says it was wor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 02:38 PM
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You're fundamentally correct. Tradcons will always just push the trad roles. They leave it to the Andrew Tates of the world say "yes but..." to this formulation. Yes, but these days you need 6 figures to even get a starter home and fund a family etc... Just making a side point that these low-end pundits in the manosphere are even worse. Because it's trad values plus hussle culture. You're never enough as a man. You must always level up. For me, this is very, very, similar to what women's' magazi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 02:20 PM
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By the way, it was your last paragraph of the OP, that really got me. It really amounts to a form of gaslight-lighting to tell someone they're problems are not real or important, just because they happen less often than some other group-or compared to some other arbitrary number.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 02:10 PM
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https://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/hypernormalisation-2016/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 02:06 PM
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Not the point. Don't like her either. But she was effectively fired from the daily wire because she did not go along with their views on Israel. Point being, they were all huge free speech warriors until and up to this point, made careers of it. Hence, they are giant hypocrites.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 02:01 PM
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They are literally as bad as the Right. The little right wing rubes, online, often retort with "why u crying..?" when a decent person makes some basic , humane point in service of humanity or the dignity of others. Again, the deterioration of the quality of dialogue has been a slow, gradual, process, but it sure as shit is now here. We really need to fight back. Whether it's challenging them for being hypocrites by promoting "toxic masculinity" by trying to shut men down when they express themse…
/r/EverydayMisandry02/04/24 01:50 PM
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Yes. That too. It is entrenched in some sense, with politicians from both sides. However, some people report that many of these people, including politicians, are going along with this out of fear. Like with, censorship, seems more likely there are supporters drawn from both sides who like the new politics and the seductive promise of unprecedented power it offers them (unprecedented in the West, at least). Then you just have phonies on both sides, making the appropriate noises and paying lip-se…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 01:46 PM
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Yes. Except this is far more sophisticated, insidious, and ingrained.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/24 09:10 AM
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It is a highly effective, soul-crushing, oppressive narrative. One of the worst on offer. Have been thinking, more and more, lately, how so much of this is down to lack of critical thinking. Growing up we had, so-called, common sense. It was not without its pitfalls, but offered a range of pithy sayings and maxims. Even those were highly subject to human error and only as good as the mind of the beholder. But at least there was some consensus on "reality". Like a working theory of the ways are a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/24 07:19 AM
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Thanks for your reply that illustrated you exactly get where I'm coming from. I have rarely seen better deployment of a Marx quote to greater effect!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/24 06:50 AM
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You see, we shouldn't even have to say that, "good and bad exist in every group". It is literally the first thing we all learn about morality and the outside world, as frickin children! Probably our first encounter with abstract reasoning, and the most basic one we can conceive of!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/24 06:45 AM
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I feel like hugging you...right now! Never change.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/24 06:24 AM
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Why am I getting this message: Sorry, this post was removed by Reddit’s filters??
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/24 06:07 AM
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Thank You for bringing up a vital issue central to our existence as human beings. And, as MRAs, it is a great shame it is not something we are unafraid to list at the top of our list of concerns: where it should be! So, Thank You, once again. Touch is a guarded and limited discussion in society. Partly, out of ignorance, as data on this is comparatively new, but mostly for reasons of control. ( Digression: Data primacy , is most likely, also used to maintain ignorance-shielding peoples' awarenes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/24 04:53 AM
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Yes. Fighting and sowing division...And being hand maidens of the Neoliberal establishment. Where are the feminist hashtags for Palestine, for example? I really do think it's, fundamentally, all about division, though. As a leftist, if you stray too far from the wisdom provided by the notion of divide and conquer, it's always possible, you may have lost your way. It's up there with "Follow the money"!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/24 03:12 AM
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Insightful. Very well said. I like that your observations of reality are enhanced by theory, and not captured and diverted, by it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/24 02:55 AM
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It's the lack of intellectual consistency that gets me. I mean, on top of the injustice and cruelty of it all. So, thanks for you initial post here. It is a very worthy topic-and something we could all benefit from staying conversant with. It's not only a key driver of dismissive attitudes to male abuse, but it is also, simultaneously, central to Feminism's success.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 09:02 AM
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A quick note. I am, sincerely, an old school lefty. We are living in a post-modern era-in one particlar sense-that is relevant to your question about masculinity, and many more fundamental questions. We are post-modern in that we have just recently dispensed with many traditionally conservative values, most of all religion. A lot of other traditional values, including traditional formulations of masculinity, were bound up in religion and, more so, religious practice. By religious practice, I mea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/24 03:48 AM
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