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| 1 | For 133 years of the last 200 years the head of state of Britain (and many other countries) has been female. How can this possibly be viewed as a patriarchy?Great, so we’re all on the same page now eh | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/08/23 12:17 AM |
| 3 | For 133 years of the last 200 years the head of state of Britain (and many other countries) has been female. How can this possibly be viewed as a patriarchy?Sure why not. Why are you even asking about me instead of discussing the post | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/07/23 01:56 PM |
| 2 | For 133 years of the last 200 years the head of state of Britain (and many other countries) has been female. How can this possibly be viewed as a patriarchy?I’m not sure why I shouldn’t accept OPs definition, which seems falsifiable. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/07/23 02:11 AM |
| 6 | For 133 years of the last 200 years the head of state of Britain (and many other countries) has been female. How can this possibly be viewed as a patriarchy?If this is the metric we use to determine whether or not a country is patriarchal, how do we feel about America? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/07/23 11:58 PM |
| -1 | 55% of White Women voted for Trump - What feminists don't want to speak about“What feminists don’t want to speak about” Actually I read a whole book that led off with this exact statistic, written by a feminist, but okay. I guess if you never listen to what feminists say you can make up whatever positions you want for them. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/23 05:03 PM |
| 0 | This was deleted by Mods on r/Feminism :(Did you read what the commenter linked in your post on that sub? Also, did you think you were the first person to ask that question? | /r/MensRights | 19/12/22 04:10 AM |
| -5 | Feminist SuppressionSo it’s less about advancing mens issues and more about being anti feminist? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/22 02:13 AM |
| -7 | Feminist SuppressionWhat's your goal here? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/22 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministOkay, you keep presenting masculinity as one immutable package. It's not. I don't think this conversation is going anywhere. Good luck with everything | /r/AntiFeminists | 09/10/22 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministSure men suffer when we bottle up our emotions but society makes us suffer immeasurable more when we do show emotion. This is why men are always encouraged to bottle most things up and deal with it. Thats the world we live in as men. Yeah, and this is toxic masculinity. Growing up, it was my father and male role models who told me that it's not manly to cry, it was men who said we have to be stoic and strong individuals for our partners, its redpill communities who say you can never cry in front… | /r/AntiFeminists | 09/10/22 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministI'd encourage you to have some flexibility in what we call "masculine" and "feminine" as these concepts change over time and are different in different cultures. I'll be a bit more charitable with an example. Independence is generally considered a more masculine trait, and it is good for men (anyone really) to be independent. HOWEVER, it can become toxic when men take independence so far that they refuse to ask for help, refuse to open up to anyone, and end up killing themselves. Do you see how … | /r/AntiFeminists | 09/10/22 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministObviously thats what id like to happen, but I really don’t know how. Most people change positions as a result of personal experience, not because some rando on Reddit said “feminism good actuly.” I can wish people - MRAs and feminists - were more empathetic and charitable and willing to seriously engage, but it feels a bit like fighting against human nature, so, I really don’t know. | /r/AntiFeminists | 08/10/22 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Feminists downplay the mass raping of young boys and describe perfectly how the titles of news articles are written, but with the genders switched.You can call it trolling if you want, but I think you’ll see I’ve had some pretty long and productive conversations. I don’t hide that I’m a feminist, in fact I basically advertised it on the sub you linked and two people engaged me in polite conversations that have been going for like three days now. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/22 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministI think we have some fundamentally different worldviews here that I'm admittedly not going to be able to dissect in a reddit conversation. Like, sure, we can say "everyone had it terrible," but if we can't agree that certain groups of people didn't face more oppression than other groups of people, then our understandings of history I think are maybe a bit too divergent to really have a productive conversation. And I don't want to accuse you of not having empathy, but I think you should reconside… | /r/AntiFeminists | 07/10/22 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Feminists downplay the mass raping of young boys and describe perfectly how the titles of news articles are written, but with the genders switched.Did feminists write the UK law?? Obviously society views boys being raped as less bad then girls being raped, but that’s not from feminism… the people saying “lucky guy wish I’d fucked my teacher when I was a lad” is like my boomer uncle. I’m just confused what you think feminists had to do with it? | /r/MensRights | 07/10/22 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Feminists downplay the mass raping of young boys and describe perfectly how the titles of news articles are written, but with the genders switched.So let me get this straight. You think male journalists are downplaying rape of young boys because feminists… ??? | /r/MensRights | 07/10/22 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministEvery movement is “pushing a narrative,” so, sure, but I’m saying there is genuinely a difference between what these words mean colloquially and what they were intended to mean by feminist scholars. Yeah, I hate that feminists are cavalier with language like that, it’s true in a very abstract sense but in reality it’s not useful and doesn’t exactly make allies. I have a little bit of a different perspective as someone who used to consider themselves an mra. I guess I know how alienating that lan… | /r/AntiFeminists | 07/10/22 02:57 AM |
| 0 | Feminists downplay the mass raping of young boys and describe perfectly how the titles of news articles are written, but with the genders switched.Sure, but that’s not feminist hypocrisy, which is what the comment I originally replied to was saying | /r/MensRights | 07/10/22 02:19 AM |
| 0 | Feminists downplay the mass raping of young boys and describe perfectly how the titles of news articles are written, but with the genders switched.Okay but isn’t that only hypocrisy if the articles were written by feminists? | /r/MensRights | 07/10/22 02:14 AM |
| 2 | Feminists downplay the mass raping of young boys and describe perfectly how the titles of news articles are written, but with the genders switched.Im still confused, are we just assuming the articles were written by feminists? | /r/MensRights | 07/10/22 01:12 AM |
| 0 | Feminists downplay the mass raping of young boys and describe perfectly how the titles of news articles are written, but with the genders switched.Okay I’ve been staring at this post for like ten minutes trying to figure out how it’s hypocrisy, what am I missing | /r/MensRights | 07/10/22 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministI wouldn't compare the oppression that woman in modern developed countries today face to what they experienced in the past, experience in underdeveloped countries, or even on par with the history of racial discrimination. 100%, don't disagree. The way feminists understand the word "oppressors" is far less loaded than we would use it colloquially. As for the gender wage gap, controlling for everything explains the discrimination but it doesn't explain it away. If women are making less money becau… | /r/AntiFeminists | 06/10/22 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministOkay there's a lot here that needs to be addressed, so let's just start simple. Do you believe women were oppressed in the past, like, at all? And today, can you think of any ways in which modern women are disadvantaged, or underrepresented, or face particular issues? Like, if I pressured you to name something, could you identify any particular problems women face in modern society? 1b as an aside: "Toxic masculinity" isn't an indictment of masculinity as a whole. For one thing, "masculinity" is… | /r/AntiFeminists | 06/10/22 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministOne problem with feminism is its full of loaded language that should never have been divorced from a more clinical academic setting. "Oppressors" and "toxic masculinity" and even "patriarchy" can sound like an individual indictment of men... they're not. The answer to your question is yes, but a lot of things that you might imagine follow from that, don't. On an individual level, this word doesn't apply; I'd never look at an individual man and say he's an oppressor, even if he's very successful … | /r/AntiFeminists | 06/10/22 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministThis is, I think, where the different factions of feminism come into play... intersectional feminists like myself would 100% agree with you when you say that "adding women to positions of power isn't going to solve things" and that women can uphold and propagate the patriarchy. This is in contrast with the Sheryl-Sandberg-esque "liberal feminism" (or as some more provocative intersectionalists call it "white feminism") idea of "equality = more women CEOs," mindless veneration of women, etc. Femi… | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/10/22 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministI mean I personally agree that hating men, even ironically or as a joke, is cringe, but I also would argue the (more controversial around these parts) feminist position that women saying "men are trash" is not the same as men saying "women are trash." So the misandry that you speak of, while we should work towards doing away with it, doesn't bother me enough to turn me off of the broader egalitarian ideals of feminism. Recently the question "Can you be a feminist and also hate men" came up on th… | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/10/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministI don't think feminism is as much about "blaming" people as anti-feminists seem to think. The term "patriarchy" isn't a blanket indictment of all men, and terms like "benevolent sexism" are patterns of behavior that they seek to identify and eventually end. It's not about "blaming" people. As for "not holding themselves accountable" I'm sure any feminist would tell you that identifying and mitigating their own internal biases is an ongoing process, I mean that's even what "internalized misogyny"… | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/10/22 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministSorry that's been your experience, they probably are pretty defensive. That said, I think its still worth browsing the echo chambers of "the other side." I mean, I consider this sub to be pretty echo-chamber-y and here I am. | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/10/22 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministThere's a lot of things I'd like to point out as a response... for one thing, feminism is not a monolith, of course there are many feminists out there who say shitty misandrist things, sometimes as jokes and sometimes not. I won't defend them, but I would argue they are rare enough as to not be really representative of feminism. The problem is that social media reinforces extremist and sensationalist talking points so if your exposure to feminists is just what you see on twitter, or youtube, or … | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/10/22 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministAnecdotes are fine for making your own personal decisions, the problem is when we're using anecdotes to then push our normative claims about the world on others. I can use my own anecdotes here to counter yours: I grew up in a rural, religious area with lots of "traditional" women. I know many women with no interest in a career, who got married very young. Some of those women were already divorced and remarried by the time they turned 24. That lifestyle worked out well for some, but some are mis… | /r/AntiFeminists | 04/10/22 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministAh, I see a couple of problems here. So its one thing to say "women tend to be more family oriented than men... and that's the result of societal influences" and "women are biologically hardwired to be more family oriented than men." Most feminists would take no issue with the former claim, but feminists and even men's rights enthusiasts should take issue with the latter. Not to say there are no differences between women and men, but propagating the stereotype that women are just inherently bett… | /r/AntiFeminists | 04/10/22 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministWell that's an incredibly vague thing to say, what do you mean by "family-oriented?" What statistics are you showing to back that up? This could also be a fairly anti-men sentiment, are you familiar with sentencing disparity in the family court systems? (ie how women are disproportionately favored in child custody agreements?) | /r/AntiFeminists | 04/10/22 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministAnd how do you tell them men and women differ? Because its obvious that's the case but that in itself probably isn't what's netting the harsh reactions. | /r/AntiFeminists | 04/10/22 02:27 PM |
| 1 | what do you guys think about the gender wage gap I don’t believe it’s realDid you see the part where I specifically italicized the word “just.” Obviously men and women aren’t the same, but to pretend that societal influences have nothing to do with it is to be small-minded. Why did computer science go from being a woman’s job to a male dominated field in half a century? And why did teaching and therapy go from male dominated positions to female dominated? Did we as a species evolve that much over 100 years? Or has society and gender roles changed, like they always hav… | /r/AntiFeminists | 04/10/22 02:30 AM |
| -1 | Why does each conversation end the same with feministSorry you’re having these issues but If you’re looking for feminists to talk to that won’t call you an incel there are plenty out there. If you have a specific conversation starter you can try “ask feminists” (avoiding the specific name because of this subs rules). I’ll talk to you if you want and won’t call you names. Anything in particular you’ve been talking to them about that gets you these responses? | /r/AntiFeminists | 03/10/22 08:22 PM |
| 1 | what do you guys think about the gender wage gap I don’t believe it’s realTelling someone to learn on their own, think for themselves and stay away from echo chambers is a weird way to manipulate them | /r/AntiFeminists | 01/10/22 08:45 PM |
| -2 | what do you guys think about the gender wage gap I don’t believe it’s realIt is real and it can be fixed. Lots of people are going to say “women choose lower pay jobs” and act like that’s the end of the conversation. It’s true, but of course the obvious follow up question is “why do women choose lower paying fields? Like teaching and social work over engineering and comp sci?” And no, it’s not just some evopsych “men and women are wired differently” bullshit, but societal factors are a huge part. Look up the history of gender disparity in computer science, for example… | /r/AntiFeminists | 01/10/22 08:42 PM |
| 0 | They don't want equalityThat's fair, but I wouldn't expect feminists to go out of their way to end the draft... they are called feminists after all, they're primarily focused on women's issues... but I promise you if abolishing the draft came up for a vote tomorrow every feminist I know would absolutely turn up to vote to get rid of it. | /r/AntiFeminists | 30/09/22 03:11 PM |
| -1 | They don't want equality[they’d just] bitch about lowering the women's retirement age to be below men's again. Do you genuinely believe this? Do you think it was feminists who made the age discrepancy in the first place? (I’ll give you a hint - the pension system was set up decades before women even had the right to vote in Switzerland) | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/22 09:22 PM |
| 1 | They don't want equalityThere's no other ways of solving that problem? Just seems silly to expect a group of people to want to raise their own retirement age just to equalize. I bet if you ran a proposition to lower the men's retirement age to match the women's, the feminists who are protesting this would be in favor of that. | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/22 05:53 PM |
| 12 | They don't want equalityIf we want to equalize men's and women's retirement ages, wouldn't it be better to lower the men's rather than raising the women's? | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/09/22 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Are men's issues coming from more than just feminists and their ideology?Feminists support conscription? That's news to me. Same with the "traditional male gender roles" | /r/MensRights | 22/09/22 01:58 PM |
| 5 | Is it even worth the effort to debate feminists?Then the answer to your question is gonna be “no, definitely not worth it” | /r/MensRights | 19/09/22 04:55 AM |
| 6 | Is it even worth the effort to debate feminists?Ah, I looked over your most recent (apparently still ongoing) back and forth. A question I ask myself frequently (I debate online a lot) is… “why am I debating this person? What’s my goal in this conversation?” It’s hard to say if something is “worth the effort” if you don’t have a clear idea of what you’re trying to do. So… what are you trying to do? | /r/MensRights | 19/09/22 02:50 AM |
| 1 | Is it even worth the effort to debate feminists?Which feminists are you debating? | /r/MensRights | 19/09/22 02:34 AM |
| 5 | "Historical oppression" of womenusually what people try to do is form a conclusion based on the evidence, not start with a conclusion and go seeking evidence to support it on a clearly very biased forum. If you’re finding it difficult to find evidence that supports your pre existing narrative, consider changing your narrative? | /r/MensRights | 14/09/22 01:16 AM |
| 4 | What do you think of the #MeToo movement?Im curious OP… in what way do you feel trumps election was a boost for mens rights? | /r/MensRights | 13/09/22 03:14 AM |
| 0 | I wonder why men are less inclined to get married nowadays 🤔Is there no context where these comments could be justified to you? Like, for instance, let’s say hypothetically, she supported her man through thick and thin for years, stopped working so she could raise their kid (essentially putting her trust in him that he would keep providing for her while she bears and raises the child, which is traditionally how marriage is supposed to work) and he decides to drop her because he’s bored of her. She has no savings now because she was trusting him to provid… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 04:54 PM |
| 1 | I wonder why men are less inclined to get married nowadays 🤔True | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 04:15 PM |
| 0 | I wonder why men are less inclined to get married nowadays 🤔I’m not claiming to know who he is, I don’t and neither do you, which is why I’m confused why you’re so upset about someone asking for more context. But do you see how you’re building a self fulfilling narrative? You say women divorce men unfairly. You see these comments, with absolutely no indication of where they came from. You have no evidence to say these comments were unjustified, only your feeling. Yet use that feeling to substantiate them. Again I ask: what if the context for these commen… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 03:34 PM |
| 0 | I wonder why men are less inclined to get married nowadays 🤔So, the context doesn’t matter to you, these comments are unjustified no matter what? How do you even know the guy is the victim here, what if he’s the one initiating the divorce? | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 03:18 PM |
| 2 | I wonder why men are less inclined to get married nowadays 🤔Is it possible, or is it definitely the case? Because you were replying to the guy like it was definitely the case, such that asking for context is ridiculous. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 01:10 PM |
| 1 | I wonder why men are less inclined to get married nowadays 🤔I thought the person you replied to was just asking for the context and saying it’s possible these comments were justified since it might have been about an abuser or something, it’s impossible to say without knowing more. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 05:45 AM |
| -2 | I wonder why men are less inclined to get married nowadays 🤔I appreciate your concern for us guys but the person you’re replying to is right, this sub is about mens rights in name only. For instance, what does this post that were commenting on have to do with mens rights? | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 02:27 AM |
| 2 | I wonder why men are less inclined to get married nowadays 🤔That doesn’t follow at all, why would over half of men have to be bad for these comments to be justified? | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 02:22 AM |
| 2 | Why is OF not frowned upon? Sending naked pictures use to be embarrassingIf you subjectively feel like that is devaluing your body, then by all means, don’t do it. Doesn’t mean you have to get offended about other people doing it. Also still doesn’t explain what is hypocritical | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 02:55 AM |
| 3 | Why is OF not frowned upon? Sending naked pictures use to be embarrassingIm failing to understand why that’s a) hypocritical or b) bad. Just because something “used to” be the case doesn’t mean it should stay that way, surely you recognize that? | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 02:48 AM |
| 4 | Why is OF not frowned upon? Sending naked pictures use to be embarrassingThe argument against masturbating in public is that it is offensive to see sexually explicit stuff that you didn’t want to see, so it actually does hurt people. But it makes sense that you wouldn’t understand that since you don’t seem to understand the difference between intentionally selling nudes and someone else sending your nudes to people you didn’t want to send them to. These are completely different things and you still haven’t explained what is hypocritical here. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 02:44 AM |
| 3 | Why is OF not frowned upon? Sending naked pictures use to be embarrassingWell if you accept there’s a difference, I’m confused what you’re upset about. To answer your post, OF is still frowned upon by most of society, unfortunately, it was in the last couple years that a medic having an OF and losing her job over it was national news. Second why is it such a bad thing if women decide to be topless or sell their nudes? How is it hurting you? | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 02:37 AM |
| 4 | Why is OF not frowned upon? Sending naked pictures use to be embarrassingWhat is hypocritical? Do you think there might be a difference between intentionally choosing and posting nude pictures of yourself on your own terms, and sharing nudes with one person in confidence? | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Do we live in an actual patriarchy?Ive heard so much talk about it I don’t know what to thinkThen even from your own definition we would still be in a patriarchy because men hold more of the political and economic power, though things are changing as you have noted. I’d recommend this video for your gender pay gap issues. It addresses everything you brought up including the bigger-gap-in-more-egalitarian-countries | /r/MensRights | 28/08/22 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Do we live in an actual patriarchy?Ive heard so much talk about it I don’t know what to thinkFair. I (and I think most feminists) would take issue with your definition of the patriarchy though. Firstly, it’s not just that men tend to hold more power in govt. Men are also disproportionately ceos and disproportionately represented in the highest paying industries (see gender wage gap). But even despite all that, patriarchy doesn’t just mean “men oppressing women.” It would still be possible to be a patriarchy even if the majority of politicians were female. I think it has more to do with … | /r/MensRights | 28/08/22 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Do we live in an actual patriarchy?Ive heard so much talk about it I don’t know what to thinkOP if you’re actually serious with your question and you want unbiased and nuanced answers, you’re asking in just about the worst possible forum. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/22 06:02 PM |
| -2 | Women are more likely to cheat than menI haven't linked to any article, so I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I would like to see it. Also, I was hoping you'd have some self-respect. Assuming you're correct and you have read many times before that women cheat more than men, can you, as someone who frequents subs like r/mensrights, think of any reasons why that would have happened to you more often than the opposite? And these previous times that you read this claim, did you hopefully apply more skepticism to those claims tha… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 11:47 PM |
| -3 | Women are more likely to cheat than menbut the reality is that this is not the first time I've read such conclusions about women being AT LEAST as likely as (if not more likely than) men to cheat while in a relationship. This is seriously the level we're at? And what if I told you that many times before, I've read the opposite conclusions? More than you, in fact? Since apparently how many times we've read something is evidence for it being true, I win. Just come out and say it... "yeah, I can't find any actual evidence supporting my … | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 10:15 PM |
| -2 | Women are more likely to cheat than menthe NY Post article purposely and blatantly misrepresented data to imply the conclusion that women cheat more than men. That's a bit generous... as far as I can tell, they couldn't misrepresent data they didn't even have in the first place! | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 10:04 PM |
| 0 | Women are more likely to cheat than menThe only piece of those three "sources" that actually supports the NY Post article's claim is the third one, but that section doesn't actually mean anything. It only cites another "Body+Soul" article (which doesn't even say what the original article says it says) which in turn only links to more "Body+Soul" articles. Saying "science says" is not a citation. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 09:58 PM |
| -2 | Women are more likely to cheat than menNone of the three "articles" that are linked by the NY Post article actually say what the NY Post article says they say. On top of that, the first link, the one that you posted, which supposedly proves their title, only refers to a "YouGov survey," to which the link is broken and I can't seem to find independently. The NY Post article is garbage, but its got a title that confirms the worldview of this sub's average user, and that's all it takes to be posted and upvoted. As for why you're getting… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Major backlash after Toronto's "no-beards rule" leads to over 100 Sikh security guards being laid off | NewsThanks, this is kinda what I was looking for | /r/MensRights | 07/07/22 11:03 AM |
| 1 | Major backlash after Toronto's "no-beards rule" leads to over 100 Sikh security guards being laid off | NewsIm not asking for decisions that negatively impact men, obviously there are a lot of those (the draft comes to mind). I’m asking for examples where feminists specifically pushed policies trying to hurt men. Preferably in the last 30 years (second wave feminism was kinda shitty) | /r/MensRights | 07/07/22 05:58 AM |
| -2 | Major backlash after Toronto's "no-beards rule" leads to over 100 Sikh security guards being laid off | NewsI found an example of that happening where a woman suggested it to “make a point” about double standards being applied to women, and that it was “not entirely serious suggestion.” Nothing ever came of it anyways (besides a lot of outrage). Do you have any other, more serious examples? | /r/MensRights | 07/07/22 04:39 AM |
| -8 | Major backlash after Toronto's "no-beards rule" leads to over 100 Sikh security guards being laid off | NewsLike what? | /r/MensRights | 06/07/22 06:49 PM |
| -13 | Major backlash after Toronto's "no-beards rule" leads to over 100 Sikh security guards being laid off | NewsWhat makes you say that? | /r/MensRights | 06/07/22 03:30 PM |
| 3 | Johnny Depp Wins On All Counts and 15 Million DollarsMost feminists are against conscription for anyone | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 04:02 AM |
| -31 | Dear Society, you made it clear you don't care about men. So I'm going to stop caring about you.TL;DR: “waaaaahhhhh!!!!” | /r/MensRights | 25/03/22 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Why is supporting men's rights viewed as redpill or incel?It seems we agree that the Patriarchy and Toxic Masculinity are indeed extremely sexist. At the end of the day, I don’t think it’s productive to talk about “men’s rights” or “women’s rights” individually as though they are opposing goals. Because the established system hurts men AND women and most of our problems can be solved simultaneously. But we’re going to have to change some of the way we do things, like stop perpetuating inaccurate gender stereotypes, and I don’t seem to understand why yo… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/21 02:52 PM |
| -1 | Why is supporting men's rights viewed as redpill or incel?I’m so confused. Do you think that feminists aren’t doing enough for men’s rights, which you implied in your last paragraph? Or do you think that feminists are too involved in men’s rights and should stop “barging in” as you said in a previous paragraph? Why on earth would feminists oppose maternity leave, most of them are social Democrats or outright leftists and support workers rights like paternity leave. All you have to do is google “feminism paternity leave” and see how many feminist sites … | /r/MensRights | 19/04/21 11:19 PM |
| -1 | Why is supporting men's rights viewed as redpill or incel?Certainly. I don’t know where you live, but I can only speak from an American perspective on this. So, gender inequality and dated gender norms dont just hurt women, but men as well. Did you know, for instance, that the FBI definition of rape didn’t include men until shockingly recently? It was feminist organizations who fought to change that definition in the “Rape is Rape” campaign. It’s also been feminists who’ve fought for things like paternity leave, immigration reform which benefits men, a… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/21 05:56 PM |
| -11 | Why is supporting men's rights viewed as redpill or incel?This isn’t the circlejerk answer people on this sub seem to be looking for, but it’s because usually the phrase “men’s rights,” while not sounding bad on its own, in practice is used almost exclusively by incel/MGTOW/similar groups as a way to shut down conversations about feminism. So no, “supporting men’s rights” is not the thing that feminist subs are banning people for (in fact, feminists are often the ones making the biggest strides forward for men’s rights), it’s being associated with a gr… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/21 03:24 AM |
| 0 | In an office in IndiaNice. I'm in my last quarter about to graduate so I hope your experience is going well (though sorry its probably sucked the last year not being in person). I encourage you that you'll get the most out of your time by being earnestly open minded to all the things you might be viscerally opposed to, like feminism, and you might find out its a lot more nuanced than reactionary Reddit communities make it out to be. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/21 05:27 PM |
| 0 | In an office in IndiaMy point is that you’re not making sense: saying there’s no diversity of thought but also these colleges are full of both liberals and socialists, which are opposing ideologies by themselves. A place isn’t “ideologically homogeneous” just because they don’t talk about right wing ideologies any more than a place is ideologically homogeneous because they don’t entertain flat earth theory. It’s just that most right wing ideology doesn’t stand up to any rigorous historical analysis or empirical stud… | /r/MensRights | 13/02/21 05:04 PM |
| -4 | In an office in IndiaI’m curious why liberal colleges are breeding grounds for socialism, considering those are fundamentally opposed ideologies. Pro tip, In the future I would say “leftist colleges.” Leftist is a much more vague term, and the more vague you are with your language the more bullshit you can get away with saying. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/21 08:56 AM |
| -1 | If feminists actually believed in the theory behind toxic masculinity, they would support the men's rights movement. MRAs are giving men a voice and a safe space to express themselves.Before I go point by point, I want to point out that the goalposts have been moved. I was responding to your claim that “No, they [feminists] fucking don't [care about men’s issues], never have, and never will but will likely take credit for it when it happens.” I gave you several examples of this exact thing happening, which you have clearly ignored given your responses, and now we are arguing about minutiae. But anyways: I don’t know how you can say “It’s disingenuous to propose that feminists… | /r/MensRights | 15/12/20 09:03 AM |
| -5 | If feminists actually believed in the theory behind toxic masculinity, they would support the men's rights movement. MRAs are giving men a voice and a safe space to express themselves.This is not a criticism of social science peer review. Peterson's criticism was of Weitzman's claims that had been published in a book, not a peer-reviewed journal. I'm still interested in seeing actual examples, though, if you've got any you can think of. Also, as for the wage gap thing... no. There's a distinction between the nonadjusted gender wage gap (which is the 20% or whatever figure people throw around all the time, this is the 'lying with statistics' number) and the adjusted gender wag… | /r/MensRights | 15/12/20 06:28 AM |
| -2 | If feminists actually believed in the theory behind toxic masculinity, they would support the men's rights movement. MRAs are giving men a voice and a safe space to express themselves.Open a male shelter: Earl Silverman is probably the most well-known case of someone who tried to run a men’s shelter, and he had to close it up because he was denied funding from the government. As to why the government denied him funding, I have a few theories (they didn’t take him seriously because they didn’t think abuse against men was a real problem – great example of the ‘gender stereotypes’ that feminists are against), but I have not seen any case of feminists “campaigning against it”. Ma… | /r/MensRights | 15/12/20 06:10 AM |
| 0 | If feminists actually believed in the theory behind toxic masculinity, they would support the men's rights movement. MRAs are giving men a voice and a safe space to express themselves.This is exactly what I came here to say, hope more people see this | /r/MensRights | 15/12/20 02:03 AM |
| -2 | If feminists actually believed in the theory behind toxic masculinity, they would support the men's rights movement. MRAs are giving men a voice and a safe space to express themselves.Show me these 'biased' wage gap studies. For a scholarly paper to make it through the peer review process while being "filled with inconsistent data" is unlikely and rare. Even conservative outlets have found that there is a gender wage gap in the United States (although its much smaller than the 23% or 30% or whatever that commonly gets thrown around). A study isn't "biased" just because it comes to a conclusion you don't like. | /r/MensRights | 15/12/20 02:01 AM |
| -3 | If feminists actually believed in the theory behind toxic masculinity, they would support the men's rights movement. MRAs are giving men a voice and a safe space to express themselves.Feminists do actually care about the issues MRA's claim to care about, they just don't associate with the 'movement' because 90% of the time someone claims to be an MRA, they only bring up men's rights in the context of shutting down a conversation about feminism. | /r/MensRights | 15/12/20 01:52 AM |
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