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1

How do you know it is AI?
/r/seduction12/06/25 07:16 PM
4

I'm surprised this is having such a negative reaction
/r/seduction11/06/25 08:10 PM
2

Ask a girl on a date something fun like bowling can be good, focus on her in conversation, escalate to a kiss at some point, keep going and try to go somewhere private if she is comfortable to do so and agrees to go
/r/seduction10/11/24 10:57 PM
3

Was thinking the same
/r/seduction27/03/24 09:40 AM
1

I wonder if it is because they don't want to admit that they want something short-term or at least if we write that that are tacitly saying that? It is usually about themselves in these kinds of situations
/r/seduction26/02/24 12:48 PM
3

4 and 6 are really big ones, 6 can apply not just to money but willingness to make time or give up something for you is a big one
/r/TheRedPill27/12/23 02:13 PM
3

Oh yeah that's a good point I might be wrong now you've pointed that out
/r/TheRedPill10/12/23 07:28 PM
-3

Sometimes, I think that having high quality in this area makes them more likely to seek high quality elsewhere also Might even increase the chance of infidelity as she has had her appetite whetted for something more than she had before Purely speculating
/r/TheRedPill10/12/23 04:16 PM
7

I noticed a similar thing, and even David Shade said something similar when giving his life story, that he used to perform well for his wife every night and she enjoyed it, yet she still left him I'm coming to the conclusion that whether she stays with you is down more to things like perseverance during tough times, whether she believes she should stay with you and endure dissatisfaction at times and the quality of her life generally I'd be interested to hear if others agree
/r/TheRedPill10/12/23 04:14 PM
1

Agreed, I do think it is very much possible to keep this situation over a longer term. One way of doing that may be to be alpha, another what that has worked for me is being a good friend to her also I get that this is controversial on TRP, but it has been my experience
/r/TheRedPill09/12/23 07:28 PM
0

Intellectually I agree with this I'm in a similar situation to OP and know that you definitely feel things about these kinds of situations when it's happening
/r/TheRedPill09/12/23 06:19 PM
1

Well said 👏
/r/TheRedPill01/11/23 06:10 PM
-1

Was it his cheating or her reaction to his cheating that broke the family apart?
/r/TheRedPill01/11/23 04:04 AM
2

This is a really good example, it’s the differences in the way individuals behave around people that shows it, we have to consider the baseline of a person's behaviour before making this determination
/r/seduction24/05/23 06:52 AM
8

That's generalising. There are some people that are helped by generalising
/r/AntiFeminists28/04/23 04:57 AM
0

Yeah exactly I'm not sure being mysterious is necessarily good dating advice for women It might be beneficial in some other ways to them, I'm not sure
/r/TheRedPill07/02/23 10:50 PM
6

One of the worst things (in my opinion) about the current trend of wokeness is we a prohibited (in a soft sense) from questioning the dogma It's anti-scientific
/r/AntiFeminists04/02/23 10:02 AM
1

A backup is a very good idea for any sub at risk of being banned
/r/AntiFeminists01/02/23 08:46 PM
1

It could be worse, really it could That does not, for a single second, mean there aren't injustices now or that there aren't problems to be solved It could be far, far worse
/r/AntiFeminists23/01/23 06:28 PM
14

Then they bring other irrelevant things into the argument
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/23 04:42 PM
2

Yeah, that's true. Rereading what I wrote, it might appear I was defending her, and I didn't think of this point. Thanks for the clarification
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/23 12:19 PM
-2

If there is one thing I had learned from posting on the Internet, it is that making a spelling mistake when speaking on controversial topics, your ideological enemies will pick on that and heavily criticise you for it. They will even use it as a means of dismissing you Today, I have learned that the same thing applies to maths errors as well This is meant in a non-partisan way. Both sides do it, and it is the reason I am (usually) careful to proofread things I write on any controversial topic Ed…
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/23 12:08 PM
1

Any straight man will tell you women look better with their hair down
/r/AntiFeminists12/01/23 10:49 PM
1

As a larger man (heavier), I can tell you that compared to a slim woman, there is a range of temperature of only a few degrees where they will feel cold and I won't Not that it's ant of their business if a man chooses to wear a jacket
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/23 11:48 AM
4

This is not intended to support the accusation but punishing a confession that was not influenced by there being evidence of their lying, which allows an innocent person go might be a dangerous thing to do as it would discourage others from confessing to false accusations in the future As I often post on these types of cases: if the principle of innocent until proven guilty was actually applied, none of the would be an issue as he would never have been charged with anything
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/23 12:03 PM
15

Their ability not to answer the actual question being asked or diverting from the topic is horrifying
/r/AntiFeminists01/01/23 12:55 PM
3

Yeah, exactly, and I appreciate that you've taken the chance to have a dig at leftist which is equally full of shite as feminism
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/22 10:37 PM
4

Equality to them means equality for them. When equality is applied more generally it is at that point that they no longer believe in equality
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/22 04:56 PM
16

Totally, they're doing this purposefully to prevent the actual issue under discussion from being discussed I'm sure a disabled woman does have it more difficult than an able bodies man, but I'm not going to give her a standing ovation for pointing out the obvious
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/22 02:49 PM
8

I personally cannot stand it when people won't answer a direct, fair question, that's on topic
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/22 10:57 AM
9

It was funny when Tate replied, saying it was 50/50, whether she was male or female, and he didn't want to assume her gender
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/22 10:49 AM
4

This is a genuine problem between the two sides, I have personally read feminists state that they would not want to ask any questions of the other side because there's no point or something to that effect, this is a very disturbing attitude and suggests a degree of Dogma within their ideology. This is something they should not do and nor should we
/r/AntiFeminists29/12/22 12:14 PM
5

Exactly, it is hard to accept that they don't just disagree with us but they are not telling the truth, it isn't about equality
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 01:44 PM
12

Yeah indeed
/r/AntiFeminists21/12/22 04:20 PM
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I wonder if a lot of these kinds of posts are jokes / trolls
/r/AntiFeminists19/12/22 09:18 AM
2

This is very true about devaluing actual human rights issues
/r/AntiFeminists18/12/22 11:36 PM
6

Terrible response on their part
/r/AntiFeminists17/12/22 02:46 PM
10

Yeah exactly, you've put into words what I lacked the articulation to express clearly, nice one
/r/AntiFeminists11/12/22 03:33 PM
20

If the standard of innocent until proven guilty was actually upheld this question wouldn't need to be asked
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 11:09 PM
1

r / suddenlygay ?
/r/AntiFeminists09/12/22 11:30 PM
5

In Iran there may actually he a case for feminism, in the West it's a load of shite.
/r/AntiFeminists09/12/22 08:19 PM
19

Weird comment given that she points out that random tik tokers say it
/r/AntiFeminists08/12/22 09:54 PM
3

Logic goes out the window with them If there was causation they would say the statistics were as manipulated as the ones proving the wage gap
/r/AntiFeminists08/12/22 05:34 PM
2

They know it's wrong when it personally affects them, as you rightly point out I'm becoming less sympathetic
/r/AntiFeminists08/12/22 01:53 PM
2

Yeah you're probably right, when I wrote that I was just thinking out loud What I meant was if a paternity test is freely available at the time of the child's birth and the man doesn't have to inform the mother there is no reason to criminalise it From some of the other people who replied to my post I'd say that there should be a paternity test before any money can be extracted from the man
/r/AntiFeminists08/12/22 08:08 AM
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Yeah I can't disagree with any of it, they'd demand full disclosure for a credit check they should have a paternity test before chuld support is issued It's the female first view of family law thay needs to change
/r/AntiFeminists08/12/22 08:05 AM
1

Yeah that's true
/r/AntiFeminists08/12/22 08:03 AM
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I get that this may go against the general consensus of this subreddit, but do we really want to criminalise this type of thing? If paternity tests weren't allowed, or if there is a statute of limitations on getting one, then sure there would be a definite aegument for it but a man who doesn't have one is choosing not to have one if they are available. A woman may be unsure who the father is and thus not want to open this can of worms by asking for one, there are cases where doing so would be un…
/r/AntiFeminists07/12/22 08:54 PM
1

Brilliant 👏
/r/AntiFeminists07/12/22 07:50 AM
43

This is a great example of why the term feminism doesn't mean equality for men and women just equality for women Try repeating this statement replacing the word feminist with the word egalitarian and see of it makes sense
/r/AntiFeminists03/12/22 01:21 PM
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If the principle of the assumption of innocence until proven guilty was upheld strictly this wouldn't be an issue in terms of criminal justice. Family court may have some additional considerations
/r/AntiFeminists01/12/22 03:00 PM
4

Guess we don't have it so great after all, if it is acceptable to target us with hatred
/r/AntiFeminists20/11/22 01:02 AM
2

Hahaha I see what you're saying When I wrote that it was mostly a joke about the username rather than the content of the post, I've written that joke quite a few times when it has been relevant and appreciate an opportunity to use it on the rare occasion it presents itself I disagree that this forum is full of personal attacks but it is critical of feminism unsurprising given the name of the subreddit. Undoubtedly there will be some (many?) who are vitriolic I don't really know... notice that "i…
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/22 10:57 PM
1

I agree with you OP there isn't much of a dialogue between the two sides and I wish there was more This sub is called antifemisinism so criticism of feminism would be expected here Other than that right on
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/22 05:14 PM
5

Username checks out
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/22 08:23 AM
2

Pretty much yeah Thank god we still have the freedom to disengage from such nonsense, who knows if and when theyll try to enforce their ideas It'll be our fault when it goes wrong too
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 06:48 PM
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There is a twisted logic to their views, still messed up as you say, disgusting and narcissistic through and through It is another good example of the beneficiary asking to be paid for the process of receiving their end result
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 08:17 AM
3

Thank-you, reading that meant a lot to me
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 10:31 PM
10

Yeah true Working is about doing things that other people are willing to give you something for, not things you deem worthy of payment yourself. Dishes in your own house doesn't count for this, neither does cleaning your own house of changing your own babies nappies, these are all ends which you care about. If anything you would have to pay someone else to do these tasks if you didn't do them rather than deserving pay from others
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 05:10 PM
2

They think this crap means something
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 08:46 PM
9

Feminists with logic?
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 01:47 PM
1

Oh I didn't mean you OP I meant the person who wrote it
/r/AntiFeminists11/11/22 05:49 PM
1

If it doesn't matter what was the need for the post? How many people who don't already agree with this would be convinced by it anyway?
/r/AntiFeminists11/11/22 05:47 PM
8

You know when you read something that jumps out at you as made up? Number 7 did that to me
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/22 06:50 PM
1

Depending on the country and the numbers of dead men. I would imagine that then remaining men would impregnate the widows. Men could and would do this. Trust me
/r/AntiFeminists28/08/22 09:40 AM
12

Thanks for this reply, I genuinely appreciate discussions with feminists who are fair minded. I actually think the reason men were drafted rather than women was mostly due to women being the rate limiting step in reproduction, were women to die I such large numbers it would have resulted in population collapse
/r/AntiFeminists27/08/22 09:43 PM
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Might as well look at it that way, if feminists can interpret men being drafted as sexist towards women anything is fair game
/r/AntiFeminists27/08/22 05:48 PM
1

On the one hand it is their right to do what they want with their bodies, on the other hand they are being exploited. Either way women are oppressed. This is the kind of thing they say. Can't make sense of them.
/r/AntiFeminists23/01/22 03:12 AM
1

Agreed. Left wingers generally are trying to do this.
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/22 05:21 PM
3

It's equality for women. Not equality for all. They want to "level the playing field" for women. If they have privilege in some areas that will not contradict their goal of levelling the playing field in other areas.
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/22 04:58 PM
0

In what sense could this be considered virtue signalling?
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/21 08:01 PM
1

An alternative would have been a job at McDonald's.
/r/AntiFeminists29/12/21 11:12 PM
3

When the LVW doesn't realise she is a LVW. I hate these acronyms.
/r/AntiFeminists22/12/21 05:41 PM
2

Isn't it misoginistic to blame women for things? Edit: spelling
/r/AntiFeminists26/10/21 10:32 PM
8

We could have men and women all compete in the same league with mixed teams. Problem solved
/r/AntiFeminists25/10/21 01:18 PM
10

The way the term all genders is being used is cringe
/r/AntiFeminists24/10/21 04:29 PM
7

We need a men's fairy godmother if women are getting one. No homo obviously.
/r/AntiFeminists18/10/21 07:01 AM
5

This is so stupid. I can't stand them. Feminists, not women that is.
/r/AntiFeminists22/09/21 11:53 AM
16

Actually FDS users are hot and successful on average. The OP of one of their posts said so, therefore it must be true. It doesn't matter that it is an anonymous Internet forum where you can post anything without proof. Anyone who disagrees is a mysoginist.
/r/AntiFeminists15/09/21 07:22 PM
1

This would put women on an equal playing field with men so I have to agree. I like the idea that they should not get abortions if men are on the hook for a baby without their permission. The idea that both genders are responsible for their actions in terms of having sex is valid. In the case of a rape or incest resulting in a pregnancy what would you say should be done? It strikes me as a distinct possibility that if a woman were to be able to get abortion in the event of a claim or rape or ince…
/r/AntiFeminists07/09/21 02:17 PM
1

This would put women on an equal playing field with men so I have to agree. I like the idea that they should not get abortions if men are on the hook for a baby without their permission. The idea that both genders are responsible for their actions in terms of having sex is valid. In the case of a rape or incest resulting in a pregnancy what would you say should be done? It strikes me as a distinct possibility that if a woman were to be able to get abortion in the event of a claim or rape or ince…
/r/AntiFeminists07/09/21 02:17 PM
0

Arguably it is her choice what happens to her body, but I take your point also.
/r/AntiFeminists05/09/21 10:49 PM
1

Interesting reply. Goes to show that these matters are less straight forward than they may at first glance seem.
/r/AntiFeminists05/09/21 09:01 PM
4

I do not support the abortion ban, I'm pro choice but the argument is flawed, there is a categoric difference between forcing someone to undertake a medical procedure and refusing to allow someone to have one. Again to reiterate I am pro choice. I am only arguing that the logic this person is using is unsound.
/r/AntiFeminists05/09/21 06:46 PM
1

Women couldn't be drafted as they were the rate limiting step of keeping the population at a stable number.
/r/AntiFeminists20/08/21 11:31 PM
6

When TRP becomes about TRP rather than sexual strategy for men...
/r/TheRedPill20/07/21 12:25 PM
2

As a 34 year old man who had the same struggle I agree with you that those other things are important but they are important for you now, for someone in your positing at 18 their priorities are likely going to be different.
/r/seduction06/07/21 05:02 PM
8

Nice one bro!
/r/seduction18/06/21 07:59 PM
1

Still can't tell of these feminists are trolls or serious half the time.
/r/AntiFeminists10/06/21 10:18 PM
1

Different people can express the same emotion differently?
/r/seduction02/06/21 11:24 AM
1

I find them outwardly difficult to read also, I wonder if it is because some of them are trying to not give away what they are thinking or something like that?
/r/seduction01/06/21 10:52 PM
9

Probably fake but if anyone out there thinks guys don't have feelings they are very very wrong.
/r/AntiFeminists31/05/21 09:05 PM
5

You'd think this was trolling if you didn't know any better
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/21 05:02 PM
2

The problem is she holds that opinion of cheating, even more than the actual act of cheating
/r/AntiFeminists26/05/21 09:47 PM
1

Can't tell if it is trolling?
/r/AntiFeminists26/05/21 09:40 PM
79

When they pick fights against suicide prevention you know they have overstepped the mark even if some of their ideas had merit.
/r/AntiFeminists15/05/21 12:23 PM
1

This.
/r/seduction26/04/21 06:21 PM
5

Oh I see. They're insane I don't get them
/r/AntiFeminists20/03/21 06:21 PM
2

I am against feminism, but how do we know this isn't a troll saying this?
/r/AntiFeminists20/03/21 05:38 PM
28

"It is just me trying to validate my own ideas" This is wisdom. I never realised it but it is true. Edit: typo
/r/TheRedPill12/03/21 11:31 AM
8

Yes good advice. I also think that even those who have experience can benefit from being reminded about the basics from time to time.
/r/seduction28/12/20 02:07 PM
3

Should say and. Typo
/r/AntiFeminists22/12/20 10:08 AM
4

It reminds me of a post on FDS where they literally stated that most of their followers were hot and successful lol. It is an anonymous forum. You don't know if these people are women or not. Edit: typo
/r/AntiFeminists22/12/20 12:05 AM
7

I agree with this. If they do this it is likely to get results. The issue is doing it. In my opinion it is not that most guys who struggle with this have no idea what to do (they will likely struggle with how to do it well though) the issue is being willing to do it at all. I do not know how to inspire this willingness. Maybe it must come from themselves? Edit: typo
/r/seduction20/12/20 02:39 PM
1

I think he is referring to dramatic irony rather than situational irony.
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/20 02:52 PM
4

Having distance between people can assist with getting along
/r/seduction09/12/20 11:10 AM
1

Why do they celebrate this kind of thing? Because they're nutters. End of.
/r/AntiFeminists07/12/20 07:02 PM
27

I read a post where they talked about how hot and successful all the members of FDS are and how these kind of accusations are not true. It is literally an anonymous forum, how they can claim this is beyond me.
/r/AntiFeminists06/12/20 08:59 PM
5

I was not bragging. I was unaware of how badly shorter guys were treated because I am not short myself. When I learned it I was very surprised. Yes I was that ignorant before I learned it. But I do get it now, and no I didn't not learn it from this thread it was years ago when I realised. It surprised me.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/20 04:10 PM
3

As a slightly over 6' man when I learned about the way shorter guys can be treated by women I was really surprised. I don't get it, I don't think any less of other guys for being short.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/20 12:37 PM
1

Are you aware of adonis index?
/r/TheRedPill01/12/20 12:33 PM
3

Well written and interesting post. I agree with what you are saying for guys who have options. I wonder though for a guy with less options and experience is this a good idea? I suspect that these kinds of guys would benefit from first hand experience of being in these shitty situations. It would be a good learning experience for them.
/r/seduction29/11/20 02:23 PM
5

If this kind of thing is free toothbrushes, toothpaste and dental floss should also be free, as well as prescriptions and any medical care.
/r/AntiFeminists26/11/20 06:25 PM
17

The king is priceless, the queen is worth 9 points
/r/AntiFeminists26/11/20 06:18 PM
3

Yes good example, they made it clear before the race that the first girl was his whether he won or lost but if he won he got both girls.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/20 09:06 PM
1

I've experienced the opposite of this. Not saying the principle isn't valid, but my experience has been different. I'm talking about older women when I say this, maybe that makes a difference?
/r/TheRedPill24/10/20 09:17 PM
5

I agree but they won't understand what what are doing until they feel it themselves. I am conflicted over how to think about this situation.
/r/AntiFeminists15/10/20 08:49 PM
1

To go on fun dates, like bowling
/r/seduction25/07/20 02:24 PM
1

The biggest hurdle you may have is him thinking it is a joke or a prank, but if he is confident he will go for it anyway. It is the shy ones who may need convincing. Source: formerly shy guy
/r/seduction06/07/20 09:40 PM
13

They don't even agree on the definition amongst themselves but most of them are nutters
/r/AntiFeminists02/07/20 10:59 AM
1

She doesn't own the copyright to these videos so I doubt it will work
/r/TheRedPill29/06/20 10:13 PM
9

There seems to be a debate amongst feminists about this. But when they are angrythey are definitly anti-male
/r/AntiFeminists29/06/20 10:02 AM
2

As a 33 year old man's very refreshing to hear someone my age talking about this. Isn't it incredible how time flies by feels like all the young man last year but really it was over a decade ago. I can say that women are like NPCs because they are very similar to each other in a lot of ways maybe it's my subjective view but it feels like there are more differences between men than women. I think you may also be right to say this not worth it I had a lot more success with tinder and online dating…
/r/TheRedPill28/06/20 03:25 PM
1

I'm not sure it's dumb to be concerned about this kind of thing. Any attempt to to restrict free speech must be seriously considered because the implications of censorship may affect us one day. We are actually on the same side here as we are both anti-feminist all I'm saying is free speech should apply especially to those that we disagree with. Someone once said a principal isn't a principle until it costs you and I think that I'm paying that cost Right Now by defending The Rights of free speec…
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/20 09:57 AM
6

Not sure how I feel about this sub being banned as I believe in free speech. Even though I am opposed to feminism. See my post history tor proof if you wish.
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/20 09:23 AM
12

If your not with us you're against us mentality. People can in fact be neutral on issues.
/r/AntiFeminists19/06/20 08:44 AM
4

This is actually has a known cause, it is genetic and occurs when the subject is lacking a y-chromosome.
/r/AntiFeminists18/06/20 11:14 PM
3

Respect for her
/r/AntiFeminists18/06/20 09:41 PM
17

Good one.
/r/AntiFeminists18/06/20 09:41 PM
0

Are the terms nice guy and alpha actually real or is it just whether the girl is attracted to you?
/r/seduction07/06/20 12:13 PM
4

True, the shocking thing is so many of them are
/r/AntiFeminists31/05/20 11:10 AM
15

It is like Orwell's double think from 1984
/r/AntiFeminists31/05/20 11:05 AM
3

I assume the gender wage gap "evidence" is created by manipulating statistics but does anyone know how this was done?
/r/AntiFeminists31/05/20 01:11 AM
6

Yeah that's exactly it. I didn't laugh at all though
/r/AntiFeminists29/05/20 05:39 PM
2

That's the most useful observation of her post. Ironically she thinks that it is more relevant that men do not see the humour in this. But in reality it is more pertinent to notice that feminists do not object to this type of comment at all.
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/20 08:58 PM
1

Lol this is ridiculous. It would make more sense if their background symbol was a flat Earth as this is level of scientific inquiry that is suited to someone who conducts polling like this.
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/20 08:54 PM
2

This triggers me because the Earth is clearly flat
/r/AntiFeminists28/05/20 08:49 PM
2

Disagree.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/20 11:26 PM
12

Probably because they tend to ban half the people who join.
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/20 10:31 PM
6

This reminds me of Brexit
/r/AntiFeminists25/05/20 05:52 PM
5

The sidebar of the feminism subreddit says otherwise
/r/AntiFeminists10/05/20 11:19 PM
1

Tranny?
/r/seduction26/04/20 01:15 PM
2

Muppet. Downvoted
/r/seduction17/04/20 08:34 PM
1

Thanks for letting me know.
/r/seduction17/04/20 08:23 PM
0

Tyler Durden of RSD once clarified what he meant by looks don't matter. He said that what he meant by that was that looks should not be an excuse not to approach etc. So by asking this question the answer should not prevent you from trying. I didn't look at the pictures because it is irrelevant to whether you should try. Even if you do look different there's no way to know if she cares. So you have to press ahead and try anyway.
/r/seduction17/04/20 07:57 PM
0

Not sure why it matters. You can try anyway
/r/seduction17/04/20 07:47 PM
1

Thank-you for sharing your thoughts. May I ask what is your age, nationality and race? To me these are all relevant even though it is often regarded as taboo to ask. As a woman do you believe the alpha / beta dichotomy is a real phenomenon? How do you perceive guys in these categories and would you say that you reward guy with sex who display "alpha" qualities? If I didn't make an effort I would never have sex again and I think this is something women do not understand well enough and is part of…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/20 02:29 PM
1

Probably because of the lockdown.
/r/seduction16/04/20 03:54 PM
1

Use online dating instead
/r/seduction16/04/20 12:15 PM
2

Well done Bro. It's scary but you did well.
/r/seduction12/12/19 09:07 PM
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