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idk what gamergate is
/r/BlackPillScience15/01/24 07:27 PM
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any woman that saw this comment section would immediately vomit and fear for her life
/r/BlackPillScience12/01/24 05:32 PM
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and if youre an attractive man you can be with them.
/r/BlackPillScience12/01/24 05:31 PM
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the fuck is wrong with people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 10:10 PM
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yes but men like struggle and afterwards are thankful for struggle so its not unfair, its built into the be intrinsically desirable. its just different. and if youre jealous of women having it different youre just a failure of a man or you just havent begun living
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:51 PM
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bro get a life fr
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:01 PM
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but are you as a man wired to be jealous of a woman? do you want to be what she is? do you not recognize the value in struggle and earning things as a man? like its so pathetic to be saying what youre saying like you sound like youve done nothing ever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:00 PM
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youre just such a clown tool, like men and women are different. if youre comparing yourself to a woman you literally know nothing about people or life whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:49 PM
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you envy how they can fuck dudes. arent you red pillers all about how women dont even like casual sex and its an aberration for them to do it, so what the fuck are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:48 PM
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i feel like like they must resent their moms or something because why tf do they care
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:27 PM
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its funny cause whats more feminine than being jealous of women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:26 PM
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entertain who though, woman haters?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:25 PM
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yes theyre easier to imprint
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:08 AM
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yeah women dont care about looks the way guys do. enough with this bitching about obvious misinterpretations of sex differences
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:59 PM
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wow these fucking pussies. FBI stats versus “why arent women arrested for fetal alcohol syndrome “ like shut the fuck up. pathetic that you got downvoted 9 times and them upvoted 10
/r/MensRights27/02/23 05:47 PM
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what are you talking about what women berate men for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 06:04 PM
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im describing what women want
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 05:03 PM
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what are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 05:03 PM
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uh no, being loving, intelligent, interesting, maybe creative, - like maybe powerful is appropriate? but itd be the power to ____ which already diminishes the accuracy of the word. so i think fullness of character is most accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:59 PM
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yeah but thats like half the picture. the full picture is what i said, fullness of character. and strength comes with that but strength alone is not that attractive even though weakness is UNattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:50 PM
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like total submissivity, the man controls everything has the final word on everything- basically women arent equal, not the same, but not even equal but different, just inferior. i think thats at the heart of all of this
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:52 PM
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and the figureheads guys look up to and shame womens promiscuity also talk about “imprinting” and love the control element and being looked at like a god by their woman rather than relationship and i wonder if all of you have at least a tinge of that. basically ownership, women being property
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:51 PM
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im a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:50 PM
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and i dont think they do unless theyre insecure or are chaste themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:49 PM
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well i bet you think its a problem as everything on the male end is excellent, holding open doors, being polite, courting etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:46 PM
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“innate” doesnt mean its a problem of the other person. guys are horribly insecure, thats why controlling and shaming has been an enormously prevalent tactic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:27 PM
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why? please no “paternity issue” or “pair bonding hypothesis” or family institute promiscuity study that finds no statistically significant difference between 0 partners and 21+ partners on marital happiness and also shows identical trends for men and their promiscuity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:56 PM
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like you say between then and now a difference is back THEN they LISTENED to mans authority.. mens authority being a constant.. do you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:48 PM
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absolutely different meaning and i bet you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:47 PM
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you should have said “listened to men” or “were forced to listen only to men”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:46 PM
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“listened to mens authority” means you believe men have all the authority and the only difference is women listened to it back then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:42 PM
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“having sex before marriage” and this is a problem why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:35 PM
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what exactly is traditionalism and what is “modern”. istg if you say “submissive to husbands authority”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:34 PM
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because why, divorce court?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:30 PM
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how are women not traditional? worse cooks?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:29 PM
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in what way are they not holding up their end of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:28 PM
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why cant you “court” someone who goes out? madonna-whore complex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:27 PM
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i mean to me that seems so vague and interpretable you might as well not even say it, i think they like men who are fully embodied, and that can take on many forms, so theres a fullness of character that allows them to do what they want in the world and theyre like passionate if theyre in touch with reality and that fortifies them emotionally which i guess is strength but saying “strength” doesnt say much and also you can be strong physically or emotionally but completely unattractive in every o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:25 AM
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guys work in large part to get girls and everyone knows plenty of guys do it to get over insecurities, if not all of them so how would they think that.. also women are attracted to all types of guys of every variance as long as they seem like theyre solid and full as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:16 PM
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i think of personality as the amount of yourself that life has forced you to develop or that youve voluntarily developed. everything else is just noise
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:43 PM
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okay a personality created by doing your best or just a degrading default “personality”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:42 PM
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no, you can have very little personality, i clearly mean a full-fledged personality that allows to be in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 03:03 PM
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do you actually ask out girls? have you developed a personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:19 AM
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yeah gives you like 45 years to figure out how to convince a single person youre worth a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:35 AM
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uh physical attraction plays a role in wanting to be intimate, also reflects health and character sometimes. if he doesnt mind and its not a factor for him, hes good- if its not then its not. ???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:49 AM
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uh doing things for women youre not attracted to isnt a “simp”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:48 AM
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okay well you guys talk about everything as like ultimate truths and the truth about men and women and women wanna fuck chads and everyone else is beta bucks and that explains your sexual frustration. like no you just are autistic and cant socialize. its not that serious for everyone else unless you are like mentally handicapped, deformed, or genuinely dont deserve a relationship because youre mentality is antithetical to the betterment of life. so maybe a autism dating group would be better and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:18 PM
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so they have tits and are cute… there are millions of women who arent 10s in any regard and many are also lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:13 PM
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alright well thats not “men” its “autistic men” and they should research groups and resources for them rather than “the purple pill” or the “truth about the dating market”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:11 PM
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its called get in the game to any degree whatsoever… like you have to be literal POS scum to not find a single woman that would date you if you have a job, arent actively sabotaging your life, maybe going to therapy if you have emotional/mental confusion… like clean yourself there are tons of women that most people find atrocious that you get get with minimal effort, theyre not gonna fall into your lap but put yourself out there and ask out a ton of girls… like theyre “out there” for a reason, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:08 PM
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men have been pumping and dumping forever. sounds like an excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:54 PM
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in what way are they changing? men have always fucked around, more than women ever were because society shamed women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:50 PM
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in what way is it “self preservation”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:28 PM
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dude you cant be serious. they promote fucking as many woman as possible, fresh&fit fucks women that want to collab with him. thats not traditional. or morally comprehensible. yes its harder for men to fuck tons of women than vice versa but for it to not be degenerate in the slightest for men and it absolutely be for women is an absurd double standard. and like once you can fuck a single woman you can basically fuck anyone close to however pretty or whatever she is- unless you can only fuck if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:50 PM
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no theyre contributing to the “lessening” of someone whos apprently too corrupted to know any better. thats exploitation and clearly not commensurate with whatever morality RP people claim to have
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:48 PM
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tf are you on that wouldnt happen with anyones consent
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:17 PM
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im sure youre in common company here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:13 PM
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yes for stupid shitty men thats the only standard. thats men fault more than anyone elses. unless youre just talking about hookups. but a hookup for a woman isnt as much a “win” as it is for a man so thats irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 12:02 AM
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do you guys leave your homes or have social lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 12:01 AM
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women are more attracted to personality and who you are
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 09:11 PM
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right having hooked up isnt mutually exclusive to being able to be in love, they were just hooking up because they werent in love
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 09:13 PM
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“throws away” “to anyone” can you speak about it without hyperbole? and is her virginity her only quality such that if she loses it before you she’s “thrown away” i.e. worthless?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 06:21 AM
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red pill is just pointing out real and imagined flaws of women, some of which are reactions to the flaws (which are likely far worse- check rape statistics) of men which red pill never acknowledges or factors into their worldview. its one sided at best
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:13 AM
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i think they mainly care about being shamed for having casual sex or innate personality traits that bother men. also some women are heavier built or have far different metabolisms. no ones obligated to do anything with them but shaming them as if its always a moral decision and therefore deserve to wallow in suffering as a result of rejection is cold and wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:08 AM
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yes i didnt mean only men i was just outlining the situation for men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 09:05 PM
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i didnt watch the video but differences are men hate unwanted advances but are less threatened (unless theyre armed) by the women so are less likely to be intimidated or even have it get to the point where the woman gets what she wants
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 09:00 PM
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not true. i have friends who have been molested by women. ive been groped by women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 08:57 PM
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what are their roles
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:42 AM
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yeah no ones denying that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:33 AM
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guys stop acting like you get fit and make 6 figures just to acttract women like you do it to respect yourself and women are a byproduct. theres no imbalance so quit whining
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:16 AM
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right cause if you were the 666 guy youd be with literally any single woman that isnt fat, is feminine and friendly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:13 AM
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do you have friends? ever been to gatherings? parties? go to concerts? have hobbies with communities? like what do you want, what did society take from you besides womens crippled desperation to find a caretaker else they be impoverished?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:43 AM
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did you fully think you were gonna be into it going into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 11:04 PM
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have you ever done anything casual?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:20 PM
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this red pill blue stuff is literally insane. do you understand that like attracts like? even if youre rich something you view as “high status” if youre still attracting women that make you not trust women or think they should be second class citizens youre “low status” in the next dimension, that of spirituality which is consciousness and connection to God/universe/Love etc. no one who has an open heart is going to be fucking you over and being malicious or shallow or exploitive- sure you might…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 07:10 PM
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How about everyone STOP fucking worrying about anything wrong with any women, individuals will be who they will, raise your kids how you want, nothing any of you bitch about will ever be handled politically so stop “organizing” and recognize that your narrow dystopian view of women is because YOU ARE LOW FUCKING VALUE. YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF GOOD PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE. MAKE YOURSELF BETTER SPIRITUALLY AND YOU WONT BE WITH SPIRITUALLY BANKRUPT PEOPLE. LIKE ATTRACTS LIKE. NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 05:23 AM
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ah so dont get married men! destroy civilization by destroying the family! MGTOW!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 05:17 AM
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its called get a life, work harder, pray, and you’ll be less of a twisted fuck who ends up with equally stupid women. the government or whatever you want to change does not create women. seriously. ground yourself and stop being so fucking weird and work harder at developing a life that worthy people want to be a part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 05:13 AM
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how about no pill and get a fucking life. find God
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 05:11 AM
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and what have you learned besides apparently the best way to have a healthy relationship is to berate your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:13 PM
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no youve never been in a relationship or no you have been in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:11 PM
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okay so youve never been in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:06 PM
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did you get cheated on?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:58 PM
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you dont think theres love? how are families supposed to function?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:52 PM
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why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:52 PM
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not for an actual relationship they dont. do you think for hookups women want to be exaggeratedly submissive and men exaggeratedly dominant?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:47 PM
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right i think its the traits that the sociopathy allows them to have disproportionately like unwavering confidence and dominance, not the dark sides of those personalities. the bullying one is clearly that because the definition of bullying requires the bully to be socially, physically and maybe otherwise dominant than the bullied which are all predictors of reproductive success
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:37 PM
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its not getting laid its controlling women through violence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:16 PM
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they dont “get laid more”. did you even read the last study abstract?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:13 PM
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that is so utterly untrue. so many are abusive and horrible to their partners which is insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:42 PM
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and not looks alone but not being fully disqualified like it sounds is happening in asia. like theyre wokring their asses off and failing. 40% of 18-34 y.o japanese men are virgins and im pretty sure theyre a fairly sexually liberal society
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:37 PM
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word as long as everyones gettin theres im happy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:36 PM
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right im just loathed to imagine only the narrow ideal is attractive to women and everything else is just settling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:29 PM
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koreas declining birth rate: including the high cost of living, low wages for an OECD member country, lack of job opportunities, as well as rising housing unaffordability and taiwans birthrate only declined in 2020 due to the pandemic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:17 PM
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it does for some people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:10 PM
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call them whatever you want, whether theyre mentally ill or thats just their sexual style or theyre polyamorous
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:54 AM
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no, 10+ is a different bracket that predicts different degrees of marital success. but 2 partners is significantly worse than 3-9 statistically
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:44 AM
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its not a terribly significant difference than those who have 3-9 partners. and a factor in that is that someone who waits to settle is someone who is the most interested in monogamous settling as opposed to someone more open to casual sex so it makes sense that theyre most likely to happy in a relationship. but it doesnt work that the people with 3-9 partners are all a percentage less happy, many of them are happier than any of the virgin marriages. everyones different and some people are not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:34 AM
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what do you know? thats just patently false
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:30 AM
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just being interesting and devoted to something meaningful. its your best bet and regardless youll be happier
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:12 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:10 AM
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i mean whats wrong with you? you have a horrible attitude and dont attract excellent women into your life
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:52 AM
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as someone who has 2 threads going with like a total of 400 comments in them people dont talk how you talk about it. they always make an objective claim that theres something inherently wrong with women having casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:52 AM
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its madonna/whore complex and they want most of society to be disposable whores then they marry one of the madonnas
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:44 AM
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exactly right with you except where is this illusion that all women dont want to have sex come from- i thought RP was to combat the societal norm of accepting women having premarital sex by horribly shaming them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:30 AM
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y’incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:21 AM
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no plenty of women like it and are mature enough to have it and not suffer emotional consequences because they didnt invest them in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:16 AM
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okay so because you dont enjoy it, everyone that does is unknowingly a hooker… which means they must not enjoy it.. because they have to get paid, but theyre not getting paid.. you know people are different than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:11 AM
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??? what, so youve never gotten anything fun and casual out of a hookup? or FWB
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:05 AM
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right so its not appropriate to say women are whores or not valuable for having casual sex because everyones different.. im just so so so against shaming because it can shame peoples healthy progressions and if theyre not grounded enough to see the shamers as being closeminded then i can imagine itd be very destabilizing and troubling. like recovering from religious sexual shame- idk if its traumatizing but being severed from yourself and not being able to trust your heart is really up there for…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:55 AM
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caring about moderate body count. lots of fully confident men dont care whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:42 AM
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okay but i dont think its a hardwired instinct, i think its a complex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:35 AM
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?? i think what should go along with that is that “purity” should be a quality of their character which isnt tainted necessarily by a history of any casual sex. im not saying you cant have copious amounts of sex as a trauma response or something like which could be a red flag for some people but that healthy casual sex is good if its right for the people having it and is not at odds with their purity of character
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:00 AM
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okie doke
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 12:58 AM
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no? you can have feelings that are rooted in inadequacy and insecurity or they can be rooted in genuine distaste and honest contempt. just trying to get at whats what- and it sounds like a mix of both although im also partially skeptical about peoples claim to honest contempt and disgust because that can be a defensive reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 12:24 AM
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so the difference is feminism would encourage you to not waver from your career and get a nanny to raise your kids?
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 11:56 PM
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are you poly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 11:07 PM
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i mean isnt it fine except for the fact that youre specific personality gets attached? i dont mean literally fuck and not like them, i mean like them at least as somewhat of a friend or just find their personality compatibly flirty and sexy enough for a one night stand
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 11:07 PM
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my fault
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 10:59 PM
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being vulnerable and expressing yourself will get you far ahead of everyone shaming you. not integrating your unconscious makes you weaker
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:58 PM
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its also a congregation of proponents of a philosophy that other people want to know about
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 10:55 PM
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remove it then idc. i didnt know thats why they told me to read the sidebar which i could find on my phone, i read the sticky and went from there
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 10:54 PM
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very visionary
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:52 PM
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or its just what you do for sexual release and fun until you meet your person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:51 PM
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right in my mind vibe and emotion are a little different like you can vibe without thinking theres a huge depth to be explored which would warrant a relationship or even seeing them again
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:47 PM
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well youd probably have a disgust aversion if youre not gay, but idk cause you think theyre hot snd theyre energy is good etc? do you think thats universal how you feel or is it just an orientation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:44 PM
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like i get needing to vibe on some personal level but that can be the depth of like a passing friendliness or a friendship but still short of a romantic partner
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:35 PM
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well cant you be erotically attracted to someone and not romantically?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:34 PM
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uhhh what? you gonna fuck your wife twice?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:20 PM
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what is “frame” is that a pickup artist thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:13 PM
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you sound like you have madonna-whore complex , like woman cant have sex at all prior to you without it defining her whole being like she fucks completely indiscriminately
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:11 PM
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is it your 50th?
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 09:09 PM
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why
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:08 PM
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okay i dont know what your initial comment meant at all then. i thought you were saying a woman having sex makes her mediocre
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:07 PM
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i wonder if thats whats at the heart of it- half of them say it it outright the other half say shes “low quality” or easily accessible or its “not an achievement”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:07 PM
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okay so become FWB. or if you like each other alot start a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:05 PM
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no im not…youve never found someone beautiful by the joy and depth of their personality expressing itself with their body?
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 09:05 PM
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huh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:02 PM
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oof. i do wonder if people were more conscious and had more spirit or something if physical beauty would matter less- like baseline what your body and face look like without your personality inhabiting it- because peoples personalities can make them gorgeous or make them ugly when they HAD a pretty face or body
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 09:00 PM
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but what if she loves you and you sexually satisfy her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:59 PM
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theres nothing that make her not able to pull as high status a guy from having casual sex. why would that be the case
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:58 PM
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i think everyone suffering the from the madonna/whore dehumanize and restrict life and make it some weird imposition on reality that deludes and limits it. like if everyone understood that lots of women want casual sex and can nearly always get a guy at least as attractive as they are to do it with they wouldnt judge the worth of their prospective partners on that because it would be equalized (equalized in that all it means is you like casual sex which says nothing about you and a low body coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:54 PM
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right but what if you had sex for the innate experience and not to brag about it ( as a guy ) or to talk about it as an expression of liberation (as a girl) and you just had it for fun and for health? like strip the situation of the optics because those dont exist for mature people that dont air their sexual business to everyone because why on earth would you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:48 PM
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so a high class woman doesnt ever express her sexuality for the following decade after going through puberty until she is wed by someone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:45 PM
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yeah ik im just wondering why people have the feelings they do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:43 PM
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people say “emotion” enters into it and complicates it, isnt the aim of a one night stand for something to just be erotic? thats not really an emotion like you dont emotionally bond with porn stars by jerking off but youre having an erotic exciting and not dehumanizing experience, its just almost generic and doesnt involve any depth of your personality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:42 PM
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youre just describing male dating strategy hypogamy/isogamy. guys usually pull below or equal to their status. thats just normal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:38 PM
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yeah all these discussions reminded me last night of the madonna-whore complex that freud discovered and i wonder if thats what all this is about- which is a fucking insane complex. yeah but theres a third alternative which idk why you left out which is mutually understanding a situation as a one night stand or a FWB, which is the most common way to get sex and both parties have the same expectations. requires a bit of maturity and communication but doesnt lead to anything messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:36 PM
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maybe im confused as to what RP exists in contrast to. is the latest wave of feminism literally saying to be macho and let the guy be feminine or something? because every response ive been getting to this doesnt resonate to me as “red pill” it just sounds like normal, like equally flourishing passionate women (independent of their relationship) doing their thing and then when it comes time for kids they become stay at home moms- like duh yeah thats the best possible scenario
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 08:31 PM
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what is up with guys though- they would literally be in a fine relationship but then find out their partner had slept with 10-20 people before them and break up with them. that to me is insane, like even as a “preference”- like it doesnt exist beyond a thought and citing it as a necessary predictor for future behavior seems like a copout
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:28 PM
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you just described not getting sex, not having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:27 PM
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im just responding to the overwhelming stance from men that would literally be in an otherwise fine relationship but then find out that their partner had slept with 10-20 guys then they break up with them. which to me is utterly fucking insane and makes me feel crazy like why do i not care. they say its a geniune “ick” but i find that hard to believe because its so abstract or something
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:25 PM
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no no exactly what you laid out to me is like the pinnacle perfect ideal. im just regurgitating what ive gathered from RP. thanks for the reply
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 08:22 PM
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also you said youd like to have more casual sex but i think that would (its only fair) make you a “cum-spraying sex obsessed pervert”. do we want our fathers to be cum-spraying sex obsessed perverts?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:47 PM
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and sane people dont look at women that have sex as cum dumpsters. do you watch porn regularly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:42 PM
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because they want sex without being in a relationship like guys do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:41 PM
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right but things arent just logical theorems on paper like knowing a womans body count (say 10) doesnt tell you anything about her attractiveness. she could be the most desperate unattractive person and fucks lowly dudes or could be gorgeous and has been in a relationship and traveled and partied and fucked super high status guys. the only way to confer some sort of worth based on body count is to view every body as a failed courting attempt where she was used and discarded but she wanted it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:12 PM
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i didnt mean using a relationship as like a repeatable one night stand, i meant and ig its so stupid its not worth talking abt but a lot of RP people shame women for having any experience at all, i meant can someone interested in casual sex be able to setlle down and having a fulfilling relationship. which is dumb like obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:03 PM
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word yeah but do u think that could also be a sign of maturity and her withholding her desires because she actually sees something worth holding off on sex for? or is that just dumb and she’d fuck you in either case (casual or wanting LTR)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:00 PM
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no i dont think so i was saying what RP fkers say
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 11:58 AM
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okay so it applies to guys too. and yk thats a somewhat of a straw man (unless everyones irresponsible) because responsible people would use protection and get tested and not fuck someone if they have something
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 11:57 AM
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it was a shitty response to a shitty response
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:57 AM
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no, it just doesnt say anything about them at all. thats a false imposed paradigm- women dont know how many women youve fucked before they fuck you, its not a determining factor in attractiveness, its a byproduct of it. and if the men the women have fucked are higher status than you then it does say something about them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:56 AM
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not sure how relevant this is but the difference between 1 partner and 21+ partners for women in marital happiness isnt statistically significant at the p < .05 level and the difference between 1 and any other number is terribly practically significant, ~10% difference (probably because people can fuck for more negative reason than people can be abstinent for) and is the same proportions as men’s happiness per number of partners. thats with 10,000 people sample size across 30 years of data https…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:51 AM
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im 100% okay if you ever want to stop replying but if i can treat you as an ambassador to RPW i just have a question or two- I read the sticky or whatever it is, it says the dynamic RPW look for is “male-led”- im wondering what that really means, i know you said planning and paying for dates, so obviously being the breadwinner- but within the relationship would you find that you have equal and opposite weight like a real yin and yang because to my mind it sounds like the man being very large in …
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 10:10 AM
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right but am i misreading or have you pitted relationships and hookups against each other like they cant occur in the same lifetime? and you mentioned sacrifice, why do you think having casual sex (or do you rather) precludes having a healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:56 AM
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how so? ik exactly what youre saying but what bearing does that have on a woman having casual sex at all? and not as a measure of some sort of achievement, just for what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:52 AM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:46 AM
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right so male RP and red pill women really have nothing to do with each other
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 08:46 AM
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i dont think youre grasping the distinction im making. its like measuring a guys success with women because he got an arranged marriage. its not an actual measure of someones psychological health or development in the same way staying together out of religious adherence says nothing about the health of the marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:43 AM
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barely anybody besides religious people dont have any premarital sex at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:38 AM
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like i saw the study, i think the healthy normal range is 2-9 partners because abstinence is usually for the religious and more than 9-10 is somewhat of an imbalance. i think the rates of divorce in the 2-9 range reflect people being genuine and healthy not adhering to a religious thing despite your actual happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:37 AM
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can you elaborate on the experience of it eating away at you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:36 AM
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yeah if thats literally all they want but im talking about women that have just had it before not chronically but like explored it to some healthy degree
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:31 AM
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i think the rates being the lowest is because its a sin to christians to get divorced. like youll stay together even if you want to die
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:30 AM
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the reputation one, unless its actually like crazy body count numbers, could just be bs and baseless. and bonding one doesnt have strong evidence, and whatre you claiming, for every body its like a steady deduction in future ability to bond? cause thats just nonsense. and why does a woman have to have had sex to leverage a better guy? she can do that regardless. and being the portal to the world is sad cause ig if youre generic and expendable and dont have an actual relationship with personality…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:29 AM
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so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:21 AM
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and not getting divorced for religious reasons which was the primary reason for premarital abstinence says nothing about their psychological health or the strength of the marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:20 AM
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so christians essentially and normal people have the best success on average
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:14 AM
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well “here” i just found this subreddit today, im going off of how RP men talk about women
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 08:12 AM
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idk why everyones responding with this exact answer, im not asking if society should disallow preferences. im questioning to basis of those preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:39 AM
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respectful playful openminded and good at listening are good traits for anyone to have. what did i say that sounded shallow?
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 07:37 AM
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right but that sounds like the pattern of a lost immature person which is not the only person interested in casual sex- unless youd make the case for that. like to my mind casual sex can be healthy and fine and between two communicative mature people and not lead to all those horrible things
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:34 AM
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do you think the ick is genuine disgust like finding out a guy is racist or something is or is it more of a complex of pain threat and confusing emotions? not in the case of a genuinely mentally ill sexually coping person who needs help but like someone whos just had their share of hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:18 AM
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its weird i just dont get it. like is it actual disgust or is it threatening? like does it actually say something about the womans psychological constitution being flawed and suboptimal or is it something else… cause repression of sexuality is horrible like the history of this stuff societally is there to see
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:11 AM
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what is “n”? ik ur referring to body count but why n
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:09 AM
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i think the cure is to understand once youre in love sex is infinitelt greater than anything prior to it no matter how attractive they were so it’s irrelevant.. if thats true i dont even know. do you think theres something actually to men not fucking before they meet mr right (sorry) cause that ego thing i imagine would be enormously disruptive to any guy that isnt like a 10.. like any sense that youve been settled on.. or maybe theres a delusion in theres some objective more and less attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:08 AM
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yeah i get it. i think its 100% ego conservation except in the cases of the woman manifesting mentally ill behavior or something through hypersexuality or constant validation rather than healthy casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:05 AM
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huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:52 AM
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exactly. i think men designate “wifey-material” women who are off somewhere like not getting an education maybe not having sex and doing God knows what then there all the scum of the earth nasty ass whores who they fuck every weekend until theyre ready to find wifey who has body count of 0
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:51 AM
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every other study ive seen says rates of infidelity are equal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:49 AM
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i wouldnt defend dishonesty but it sounds like you liked her in every other way but just her body count made you dump her? why? like thats just in your head no? does it make you feel less special?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:42 AM
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to attract them to rope them into a relationship, at least thats the unconscious motive yeah? otherwise isnt that just getting your rocks off? like guys do stuff to get girls outside of their league like pickup artist stuff and thats just to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:38 AM
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could you imagine a scenario where you have completely fallen for someone but then they tell you theyve had casual sex however many times before and you just instantly realize that theyre disgusting and low value? or is that an impossible invalid premise for a scenario to you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:36 AM
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because thats what replacing every meal with sugar implies. abstinence from all casual sex would be never allowing yourself desert or something
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:30 AM
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right im just curious why it bothers men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:29 AM
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do you think women can have a healthy relationship to casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:28 AM
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casual sex isnt the ultimate goal for men either
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:20 AM
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what do you think about those points?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:20 AM
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and women are hypergamous… so they will be able to pick from equally and MORE attractive men on average compared to men who generally get to pick from equally or less attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:18 AM
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hey youre that asshole (jk) yeah same, Red pill would say a womans a whore for ever acting on her sex drive. and are you bi (last sentence)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:17 AM
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thats just a synonym for want. that doesnt tell me anything
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:11 AM
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yes but why do you not want to date them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:08 AM
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in your mind is everyone replacing romance and love with casual sex? like replacing it, not integrating it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:07 AM
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good thing i wasnt saying it to you dipshit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:04 AM
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you sound like a judgemental dipshit with poor reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:03 AM
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the legitimacy of the double standard banks on 1. men on average are capable of shallow casual sex, women on average cant 2. promiscuity to some degree can predict infidelity in marriage and the cheating affects men and women differently- dont have studies on this men may be less likely to subsequently leave the marriage after cheating because it was shallow whereas women might because it was more emotionally based what are your thoughts on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:58 AM
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so you wouldnt judge a woman for having previously had an interest in casual sex? sounds like not if you dated them after
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:54 AM
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“damage”?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:52 AM
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while it is thrown around baselessly dont pretend like incels and their delusional spiteful consequent philosophy dont exist and in huge numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:51 AM
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“yourself” isnt a tiny bandwidth of unsexy powerless low level personality, to be attractive you need to be even MORE yourself and cultivate all your potential, not to abandon your psyche and craft a fake external persona and become hollow
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:46 AM
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does blue pill tell you to be physically unattractive or something?
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 05:44 AM
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Can someone correct me if im wrong but doesnt this sound like you have no imagination or knowledge of what you want? Like do you have places you want to see in the world, concerts you want to see, things you want to do- wouldnt even just making those known be you “leading” in some way? like do you want to be a child shown the world by a knowledgable parent? im not trying to be mean and hopefully im wrong but it just sounds like you have no innate desires or relationship to the world or God indep…
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 05:42 AM
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right i found those after i posted this- im at the end of a long day, is that all just statistics about womens infidelity or is comparative between rates in men and women because it looks like just abt women but i couldve missed something
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:31 AM
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no need for apology, just a further clarification!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:29 AM
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A note about me: I have trouble interpreting statistics - i know promiscuity predicts infidelity to some extent but because it doesnt predict it 100% what does that mean? cause some people are less able to be monogamous or find the necessary depth of value in marriage, its not all just poor behavioral conditioning. and what does it say about all the different sexual styles and orientations. i hope someone understands what im getting at. like theres a huge landscape of sexual styles, lgbtq+, poly…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:24 AM
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yeah ofc im just responding to misinformation that women having premarital sex is provably pathological because they become promiscuous in marriage. because its the same rate as in men (according to other studies, this one has it as disproportionately likely for men or even inverse)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:05 AM
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yeah im not positive abt this one but every other study has the rates as the same
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:03 AM
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men cheat nearly twice as much as women. so what about that, do we need to question whats accepted about men and their own sexual behavior?
/r/MensRights04/01/23 04:07 AM
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how are you not? are you arguing for contributing to your future promiscuity?
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:53 AM
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no it has to do with assessing the risk of infidelity based on your prospective partners sexual past. thats 1 thing
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:42 AM
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exactly. astonishing how OP put so much work curating all these studies i THINK to combat the conversation surrounding correcting the double standard to do with casual sex (shitty lock lets in every key) while completely omitting that its identical or even MORE predictive of infidelity for men… unless hes just advocating for christian purity in which case ok
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:37 AM
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have you read studies on male infidelity? its the same
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:35 AM
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also monogamy isnt for everybody so a closed marriage may just not be for everybody
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:33 AM
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but why does sexual history necessarily correlate with not controlling harmful sexual urges? it predicts infidelity for men and women equally if not more for men (from a study i read) and everyone accepts mens desire for casual sex. anyone without a disorder is just being shitty for cheating but you dont need to be shitty to have casual sex
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:31 AM
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so do men buddy… men are even more compartmentalized emotionally than women when it comes to sex.. and i dont have a study link but im pretty sure women cheat more often out of emotional insufficiency in a relationship while men cheat purely out of lust
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:28 AM
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Do advocate for men to be sexually experienced before marriage though?
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:26 AM
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right. so how do you feel about the judgement of a womans sexual past?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:21 AM
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youre just wrong. body count influences infidelity equally or more in men depending on the study
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:18 AM
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Okay but your preference better be celibacy for yourself too then, why didnt you post any studies on mens infidelity following a promiscuous past?
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:16 AM
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precisely. Red pill literally wants to promote men fucking 200 women then women fucking only their husband
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:15 AM
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sounds like a personal problem. or very random preference
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:13 AM
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I hope you’re advocating for celibacy until marriage for men too OP because its no different for men
/r/MensRights04/01/23 03:13 AM
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tbf his hustlers university thing is a pyramid scheme which ig is fine but i wonder how good the info is. cause you call the entire world except you “the matrix”, sell yourself as the sole savior in escaping the matrix but you have to sign up for the course, then after you do you make channels for him and spread his clips all around social media which exponentially grows the cycle more and more. just sounds like a way to make fast money because you only need their initial investment, like it doe…
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