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CMVMeihuajiancai/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:06 PM
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I'm a man, and I am not aware that many adult men dont have friends. OP, I gotta ask, why dont you have any friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:03 PM
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Because we can shame them if we want to. Why shouldn't we? If you don't like it, don't be a 70 year old trying to date 20 somethings. And if someone said bisexuality should be shamed, you'd probably ask why, no. And if the answer was "Because we can shame them if we want to. Why shouldn't we?", you'd think that was a pretty disingenuous answer, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:01 AM
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You seem to be implying that the conventionally attractive tier of men is way smaller in number than the conventionally attractive tier of women. Well ya, that's definitely true. how large are they relative to one another? Uff duh, that's tough to say. At least double, if not quadruple. is this simply because women are more selective or because in some innate way men are actually less attractive? I'm not sure, part of it is that so many men who could be attractive are just lazy slobs. I think pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:45 PM
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Western governments? You think governments in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, etc, prefer polygamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:14 PM
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That's a fair point. However, I don't see many scenarios in which an ambitious and goal oriented person is working at a snack bar with no schooling and is vague about their goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:35 PM
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who gives a shit about her job? Anyone who likes having extra money and who likes people who have goals in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:59 PM
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I agree, but I don't see it not happening tbh. While I'm not as much of a doomer as op, the phenomenon he's describing are happening. Some percentage of young men are just not attractive partners to women, that's a fact. And the harems described by the red pill are not accurate, it does seem that a certain proportion of men out perform their peers in romantic and sexual encounters. I don't know what the answers are, as these are complex societal and cultural phenomenon. All i know is that they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:47 AM
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It also might encourage some female bad acting Get a paternity test when they're born, it's not hard at all. Discreetly get a swab and send it in using a friend's name and address. I've done that for a friend of mine for all three of his kids. The line of reasoning you are advocating for infantilizes men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:28 PM
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Just to be clear, you're asking if a father should be allowed to severe legal responsibility for a child years after he assumed responsibility for the child? My answer is emphatically no. The man chose to be this child's father. I have zero empathy for a man who didn't do his proper due diligence when the child was born, only to do so years later. The time to make this decision is when the child is born. If the man chooses not to do a paternity test at that time, that's the end of the discussion…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:24 PM
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He agreed to take care of them under false pretenses though it was misrepressntation which under contract law makes a contract voidable. He could have easily found out though, he just chose not to. Any man who does that to a child is an absolute scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:24 PM
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What does the law say?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:22 PM
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seeing an entire gender of people as some sort of blob that you can write a set of code to get sex out of is both selfish and inaccurate. So, I guess you think the entire industry called 'marketing' is a scam?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:42 PM
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The feeling of struggling to find love is something everyone can empathize with. This is a true in a certain sense. But in a more substantial sense I don't think it's true. For example, I've had dry spells in my life. It's not fun. But, for me a dry spell doesn't mean I couldn't get a date. It means that I couldn't get a date with a woman who meets my standards. And for me, a dry spell is usually a month or two. Compared to a short, ugly and broke guy, our struggles are completely different. So,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:39 PM
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Ok, what would you say to the people here who flair as purple pull? Or the name of the sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:37 PM
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it's patently absurd to say someone can't sympathize with dating struggles if they haven't experienced the exact circumstances Again, you're ignoring what I said and you're also ignoring what you said. My first comment was that I can empathize with them. But you lumped all dating problems and loneliness into one bucket that everyone experiences. That is blue pill to a T. The problems a short, ugly and broke man experiences are so far removed from those of a tall, attractive financially secure ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:22 PM
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What unique challenges? You may disagree, but I think it's a true statement that, especially for younger men, the bottom 50% struggle immensely to get a date, let alone a relationship. You may also disagree, but I think there are immutable characteristics that are severely detrimental to men, like height, to which there isn't a comparable analogue for women. Women have their own unique struggles as well, I don't deny that. Paying for dates? Umm, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:15 PM
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Yet red pillers on this sub confidently state they know exactly what it must be like to date as a woman, for instance. So which is it? Why are you deflecting what I said and instead demanding I defend the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:11 PM
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Struggling with dating and loneliness is pretty much a universal experience that anyone can sympathize with. It's not though, at least not in any meaningful sense. At best, I can only empathize with a short man. The dating world that a short man lives in is so different compared to the dating world I live in. Same for an ugly man. Or a broke man. I can empathize with those guys. I can give them advice. But it's insulting to them to say that any dating struggles I've had are comparable to theirs.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:49 PM
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Excellent point This idea that red pill is the only group making an active claim and that anyone who doesn't agree with those claims is definitionally blue pill is asinine. One of the biggest factors is the blue pill's inability to acknowledge that there are unique romantic challenges in a man's life that don't manifest in a woman's life. Whenever these challenges are brought up, the blues will obfuscate, deny or change the terms of the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:41 PM
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I would say a lack of suspicion is a foolish reason to choose to be a child's father. The cost of a DNA test is miniscule compared to a lifetime commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:28 PM
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So, rather than that discussion which will go nowhere No, let's have that discussion. Damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. Men are going to shit on him for not testing, women are going to shit on him for testing. Wtf are you talking about? He gets the test privately. If he's the father, throw it away and never discuss it. If he isn't the father, leave the woman and the child. I think it's better to discuss where things should go after a guy discovers he's in that situation. Some would…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:27 PM
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When the child is born, the man can easily get a paternity test. Waiting until the child is 12 or something is too long and will do immense harm to the child. Either get the test done when the child is born, or not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:04 PM
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I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:38 PM
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Nope If he's such a dolt that he chose not to do any testing on his child for years after they were born, that's on him. He chose to be this child's father. But she loves me is fine, but don't get butthurt 10 years later. Paternity tests are so easy, there is no excuse. NB4, don't bring up France ffs. This is an all-encompassing post, not a French specific post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:37 PM
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When I invite a woman to hook up with me On, but are you a famous movie star? Do you not think that that experience is going to be different compared to yours? A nobody like you (not meant as an insult) is going to have a much easier time having a night of fun with some woman than a movie star.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:46 PM
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You think the hot 24 year olds sleeping with Madonna are doing it because she’s such a nice person? Ok, top tier women are not running through dozens or hundreds of different men. While top tier men are. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:05 PM
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Good responses so far, but one thing that hasn't really been mentioned is that in American culture, not only are children taken care of almost exclusively by their two parents, who live in a home by themselves without any other family, buy also it's the cultural norm for both parents to be together, in the home, every single day. If one parent gets away for a few hours at night, it's like they've punished the other parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:53 PM
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You will try our sausages
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:50 PM
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Email? No, Emil. Have you ever tried their sausages?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:58 PM
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OP, the problem is how you define patriarchy. By your definition, you're just describing human behavior. So, in that sense I agree with you. But that's not a patriarchy. You're essentially the other side of the coin as feminists, who take every negative aspect of society and human behavior, and blame it on the patriarchy. A patriarchy is necessarily a political system, a system that explicitly gives more legal power to men than women. For example, a legal system in which women can not own proper…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:59 PM
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I'm sure if we had an unfiltered look at who you've slept with they would be respectful, feminist leaning, non toxic guys around my age
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:08 PM
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Also Divorce is not look at the same. How is divorce look at?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:08 PM
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If you play MTG, no date with me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:24 PM
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She is nothing special. I do t think you and I have the same definition of the word special.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:20 PM
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FeMiNiSm kiLLeD iT
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:48 PM
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But, they're were like a dozen women who made up the 4B movement. Therefore the county is a feminist hellscape
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:47 PM
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Because getting rid of no fault divorce means that this particular contract can't be broken. I feel we're talking past each other and I'm not sure how we can have an actual discussion. My argument is, because I was replying to op, I don't support or oppose no fault divorce because I dint think the government should enforce a one size fits all arrangement for marriage. That's all. So your response is really confusing to me. I don't care that no fault or at fault or whatever fault is the rule the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:02 PM
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Sweetie, a prenuptial agreement doesn't take the place of a marriage contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:51 PM
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Yes, and that is a state mandate. No one is allowed to enter into a marriage contract that deviates from that one. Maybe I'm just not saying this correctly. If that's the case, that's my bad I guess. But I'm having trouble understanding why all the replies focus on the fact that contacts can be broken, but ignore the fact that no other aspect of life does the state mandate only one form of a contract. That's the point ffs. So go ahead and argue why the state should mandate that. It's a legitimat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:48 PM
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The question is about no fault divorce, which is the one size fits all, state enforced marriage contract. That is the context of the discussion. I'm confused by you and the other persons response. Yes, it's true that contracts can be broken. However, most contracts have provisions for what happens if the contract is broken. And if they don't, then everyone walks away. So what's your point? Because my point is that we don't need a one size fits all arrangement, just let people make their own arra…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:03 PM
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My bad, I thought your question was about our opinions on fault divorce, not our analysis on the law as it is today and how that affects people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:55 PM
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You can break a contract at any time I'm not sure what kind of contracts you've dealt with, but you can't usually just break them. And usually only with consequences predetermined by the contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:53 PM
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There are just better ways to handle this stuff. Hospital decisions and visitors is just a variation of power of attorney.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:35 PM
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Like I said, the rules should be the same for any contract between two individuals. Or more I suppose. The state should only be involved to the extent that they act as the arbiter if a dispute arises between the two parties who signed the contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:18 PM
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I don't 'support' or 'oppose' no fault divorce. What I oppose is a state mandated contract that provides benefits in exchange for adherence to their contract. The state shouldn't be involved in marriage, full stop. The rules for marriage should be the same as any other contract two individuals can sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:37 PM
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Marriage is not a vibes based arrangement. It's a legal contract with specific rules. The 'vows' are ceremonial or specific to the religion. If you don't want what vibes with legal marriage, don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:17 PM
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If a rich women married a broke guy and he said if you don't get your tubes tied I'm talking your house would you consider that reasonable? Yes, that was the terms of the agreement she signed up for
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:05 PM
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Disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:35 PM
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men care almost exclusively about sex appeal. Incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:57 PM
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That isn’t and never was the responsibility of parents and elders. Says who? You? I say it has been the responsibility of older men involved in younger men's lives. I do agree that it's not really a mothers role. Just like it's not a father's role to teach his daughter how to attract men. Attracting a woman is something a young man has always had to “figure out” by himself Where did you find this knowledge? And I think it's curious that you specify men. Was it your experience as a young women th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:51 PM
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Teach boys how to get more options by applying broad technics. Ya, exactly. You're telling them the same lie that the film told them but in plural. I'm sorry, what? Do this and this, the girlS will like you. No it's 'do this and this and more women will be interested. A subtle difference, but an important one. And when he'll be muscular, rich and masculine, build his personality on the edgy dark triad redpill confident masculine guy what? See, this is the problem. You can't see the difference be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:36 PM
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Sorry, you don't get it. I'm sure you're a good mom, but that's mostly irrelevant. It's not your job to explain in detail to your son how to attract women. Your job is to be a good role model, a model that he subconsciously looks for in a long term partner. It's the job of men in his life to tell him what it takes. Because, again, you have no clue what it's like to be a man and what it takes to attract women. You don't have to be some absurd caricature of a Chad. I feel I need to add before this…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:03 PM
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Can you see the 200'000 meters jump you made here? No, I can not. Did the girl in the movie fall in love with every mid guy with "neat personalities" she encountered? No! Why? Because it is not sufficient. It's a film ffs. It's not real life. You're doing the same thing they are except trying to get them to see a film a different way. The curvy answer is that films aren't real don't learn about life from them. We fall in love and get attracted to specific things not broad ideas. Otherwise we wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:59 PM
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These things do participate in attracting partner it's just obviously not sufficient. It may be obvious to you but, with respect, the problems young women have with dating are not the same as young men. So, just because it's obvious to a woman that women are not attracted solely to a nice personality, it is not obvious to loads of young men. That may seem strange to you. It may seem ridiculous. But you're not a man. You don't know our lived experiences, so don't delude yourself that you do. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:47 PM
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It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. They don't want young men to go to T8, fresh and fit, etc. But their own inability to adequately respond to those young men's questions drives them to the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:33 PM
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I was a young man in the same society. So was I, but I was lucky that I had a few people early on that got me on the right path. The difference between you and me is that I have empathy. And that I also recognize that these young men are eventually going to look for answers. When they do, they're going to find fresh and fit, who give them actionable advice that somewhat aligns with what they've seen with their own eyes. And they'll find guys like you, who will call them losers who should stay in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:24 PM
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you can't use what your mommy and daddy told you It's clear from your tone that you aren't interested in actually understanding the lived experience is done young men, you just want to dunk on them. Because it's not just "mommy and daddy". It's teachers, sports coaches, pastors and priests, scout leaders... authority figures of all stripes. Mass media as well. The number of films and shows in which some mid guy gets with a model because he has a neat personality is enormous. I'm 40, and I rememb…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:54 PM
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So you're telling me that to learn how to deal with dating issues that have been present for the last 4 decades, men are learning to... work out and flirt with women? Things that have exist way before the red pill? Things normies that don't know what a pill is do already? I don't understand why this is so difficult to understand for some people. Especially for men. A significant number of young men grew up with a naive understanding of women. You may not have. I know I didn't. But I also know a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:35 PM
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There is a mindset I've become aware of over the years, prevalent amongst Americans, in which it is considered not only acceptable but also laudable to draw a box around a group, find the most problematic people in that box, and then conflate all people in that box with the most problematic in that box. You see it in every facet of life, and it should be rejected out of hand completely for the intellectually bankrupt way of thinking that it is. No, Florida is not a theocracy. No, the Democrats a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:26 PM
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Huh? I'm 40 and in a relationship. I also had a lot of fun dating in my youth. Why does me having empathy for short, ugly and/or fat men man I'm one of them? What other aspects of life is one incapable to empathize with a group because they are not part of that group? Do I have to have been homeless to empathize with homeless people? Do I have to have had cancer to empathize with cancer patients?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:06 PM
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I'm ignoring a very small segment of men based on characteristics they self apply. It's not as small as you think Y'all are ignoring all women and not based on characteristics they self apply. You've said yall a few times now. Who are these "yall" you keep mentioning. Just because I think there is a large amount of men who can't really hook up or have purely sexual relationships. That doesn't make me red pill. In fact, I would argue that it's blue pill types like you who claim only 5% of men can…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:45 PM
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I think about 5% of all men are completely unable to do this thing. You're just flat out wrong. But clearly you've made up your mind, just like red pillers who ignore what women say so that they can live in their delusional reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:22 PM
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I was going based on what I've seen around me, which is that dudes hook up pretty easily and don't find it very difficult to have one or two girls they're entertaining. Not to repeat myself, but you continue to be a caricature of red pill talking points. I don't know you, and this is anonymous, but try to really think about what I'm going to say. Can you honestly say that the dudes around you, those that you base the opinion that 75% of guys can get purely sexual relationships and hookups, are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:00 PM
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Spoken like a woman. What would it take to prove to you that some proportion of men have no options? Edit to add; when I say 'spoken like a woman' I mean that specifically in this context. Men can be just as arrogantly delusional about things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:48 PM
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If you just mean they could find someone else to get food or drinks with, 95%. Multiple partners, much lower, probably like 60%. If you mean purely sexual and hook ups are included, it's going to be lower still, but probably in the 75% range. This is so far off base it's like you're playing the role of the caricature that red pill has of women. Men often pretend because women could have unpleasant sex whenever they want we're gatekeepers. Great. We're so glad we can have orgasmless likely degrad…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:45 PM
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Ya, I don't disagree. But we live in a society, and our society has decided that many discussions about race are taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:25 PM
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Although I agree with you, I can understand may the mods have a blanket ban on these kind of posts. It's unfortunate, but it's a taboo subject in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:13 PM
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There are men who travel places to meet women. A term for them could be passport bros. They may even discuss pros and cons of different countries. Nothing wrong with that. Then there are Passport Bros™. Those guys are insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:36 PM
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I personally don't know of any man who follows the lives of celebrities on his own accord. You do realize sportsball players are celebrities, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:49 PM
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If you want to have kids, it would be cruel to do so with someone who has videos of themselves having sex out in the interwebs. That kid will be mocked and ridiculed to no end. If you're child free however, I think I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:01 PM
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Every person has different taste in food, music and movies. But if you makes statistic you find out that some food, music and movies are statisticaly more popular than others. It same with people. Yes, every person has unique taste and yes, some are statisticaly more popular. There is no contradiction. The contradiction does exist though. I'm not red pill, but it is true that the use of outliers and niche interests is over used in the dating advice sphere. To further use your analogy, if someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:51 PM
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The fact that these issues exist across cultures is evidence that is not the result of some psyop, but a natural result of modern society. You're the one who hasn't provided any evidence except that one social media platform is owned by the chinese and that it would be in russia and china's interest to sow discontent. That's not evidence. Facebook, YouTube, Snapchat and Instagram are all American owned and while banned in China are widely accessible amongst the youth. All your arguments can equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:07 PM
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Wtf does that have to do with either your op or my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:51 PM
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Your thesis would carry more weight if Russia and China didn't have the exact same problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:30 PM
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There are two groups. One of them wants it as a tool to debate. For the other group, it's more academic. It's like encountering a flat earther. So, to rephrase your question ;"Why is it important that people agree that men have it harder in dating the earth is a sphere orbiting the sun? Why is it important? An individual having an accurate understanding of reality is advantageous to making the best decisions throughout one's life. Additionally, it's also important because a society wide collecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:31 AM
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This argument falls down immediately because it requires another living, breathing person with their own wants and needs to compromise on those values. How does that not apply to everything else though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:26 PM
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The problem is American culture. It's considered a huge social faux pas to make a truthful statement, no matter what, if someone might feel ways about it. And I don't mean this in the boomer way. A larger than average sized nose, obesity, dark skin, red hair, big ears... all of these are just attributes. In other societies, nobody thinks twice if someone notices your eye color or your buck teeth. But in the US, someone might feel sad if it's pointed out that they have a round face, so it's stric…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:51 AM
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Are straight women really qualified to give advice on how to date straight women? Yes 100% of course they are The question is do they give good advice, which they usually don't. But that's just an aspect of American culture, not specifically attraction. It's a massive taboo in this country to acknowledge any truth that might hurt someone's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:37 AM
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They wouldn't Most people don't post their complaints online. They complain to their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:24 PM
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Groping on trains is a huge issue in Japan Is it? How did you come to this conclusion? Because I've looked into it and I've found no evidence that is any worse in Japan than any where else. The difference is that the Japanese goverment had actually tried to do something substantial about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:29 PM
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Japan is notorious for groping incidents on trains towards female passengers, Is it? How did you come to this conclusion? Because I've looked into it and I see no evidence that is any worse in Japan than anywhere else. The only difference is that the Japanese goverment had actually tried to do something substantial about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:28 PM
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I find it very interesting that people here definitively claim that groping is a major problem in Japan without any evidence. Women are groped everywhere. The difference is that the Japanese goverment had actually tried a solution, whereas every other country just says 'to bad so sad'
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:26 PM
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Jfc, every one of these guys has a great body. Try again op
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:32 PM
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Sugar daddy relationships are closer to how marriages were historically Wasn't this your op? In today's world, where everything is institutionalized, money means power over all that labor and things. In which world was that not the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:02 PM
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Not true at all. Even amongst upper classes. How did you come to the conclusion that for all of civilized history a man provided resources to a woman in exchange for sex. In reality, men and women complimented each other with both working, sometimes the same tasks, sometimes different tasks. In a sense, marriage was more like a job. You don't have to necessarily love your job or your boss... you may love aspects of it, you may like your job sometimes or partially, and ideally you have a job you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:47 PM
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Not necessarily imho. I think it's more about her abandoning her preferences in favor of something more stable. If she has a history of preferring guys like you, then it's not settling. But if you're the clear outlier in her dating history, then ya, it's settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:35 PM
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I lived in Asia for over a decade so I have plenty of firsthand experience with foreigners who come for women. (Note that I said foreigners, not westerners. Despite what the trpers think, this phenomenon isn't exclusive to the west). I have no problem saying that the vast majority are either losers in their home country or absolute scumbags. A minority, but not a tiny minority, are regular dudes who just can't connect with women in their home countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:06 PM
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At least half of my news intake is from various foreign sources. It's necessary for a proper perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:03 AM
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If you're talking about the mean of all people's opinions on the matter, it probably switches from a preference to misogyny around 15-20, depending on age to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:20 AM
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I lived in Asia for eleven years and traveled all over, but I wouldn't call it passport broing. As others have said, if your sole purpose is to find women, you can try it I guess, but you'd be much better off looking at it as either a vacation or a new life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:51 PM
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You're not who I replied to but that person laid the blame for low birth rates solely at the feet of neoliberal capitalism. Your points, while valid, don't provide evidence that neoliberal capitalism is to blame for low birth rates. North Korea; https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/multiple-children-02142023184314.html
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:40 PM
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So birth rates in China and Iran should be pretty high then, no? Oh, you claim those two societies also embrace neoliberal capitalism? Very convenient. How about north Korea then? Birth rates are falling there as well and the goverment is taking measures to subsidize births. Have they also embraced neoliberal capitalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:55 PM
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The trend is universal, and related to the widespread of internet and Western influence You have no evidence for this. Again, many researchers posit that it goes hand in hand with development. As a society develops, the birthrate will necessarily fall. It's a human thing, not some vague western thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:41 PM
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100% agree It's just lazy thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:36 PM
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Did you at least read the link? I did modernism as we know it today started in the West, To the extent that's true, I would argue that's only because the west modernized first. Birth rates declining goes hands in hand with a society as it develops. If you want to hand wave that away as sealioning...ok, but I don't think you really understand what that means. I'm providing a different explanation and asking you for evidence of your claim. That's not sealioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:36 PM
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The trend is universal, and related to the widespread of internet and Western influence Again, do you have any evidence for this other than you repeating it? Because many posit that it is an outcome of a modern society, and yet you continously repeat western western western over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:22 PM
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Many times, it's why having female friends is so valuable
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:00 PM
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Women, I know it seems ridiculous to hear it, but the fact that men can genuinely ask this question is evidence that lots of men are told absurd things about women and what they like
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:35 PM
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Excellent question I think part of it is that sex is easy for men so it can be difficult to wrap their head around good sex being complicated. Another aspect is that for men sex is more mechanical. Generally speaking of enough stimulus is applied, climax will be reached. But women don't work like that. Some days one technique gets her off, some days that same technique does nothing for her. Yet another aspect is that it takes effort to get a woman off and many men just don't want to make an effo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:24 PM
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Ya, that's my point. Lots of men will maintain a relationship with no intention of long term commitment just because he thinks she's a hoe or is ugly or whatever. I'm not defending that behavior but I've seen it with my own eyes from loads of men throughout the years and I guarantee the women they were dating had absolutely no clue the real reason they broke up. Women do it too, but in a slightly different way. Lots of people suck and water is wet, more news following this commercial break.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:50 PM
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<insert gif of guy blinking and shaking his head> Jesse, wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:42 PM
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Every guy I’ve dated didn’t ask, never cared. How do you definitively know that though? Implicit in your comment is that you're not together with any of them any more, so how can you say with certainty that it wasn't a factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:31 PM
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But you think being seeing shooting the shit with an attractive woman is going to move the needle in an office? Where people are busy with their own work and their own lives? Yes, people already gossip about my dating history since I've been seen in town with different women on seperate occasions This is unchecked Main Character Syndrome. You’re not that special. Possibly, also possible that it's a risk mitigation strategy that is necessary for some people. Maybe you're the type of guy that no o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:38 PM
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What kind of junior high remedial social skills workplace are you guys working at where a man and a woman can’t be seen making polite water cooler talk without it becoming some kind of scandal? Again, you're talking in extremes. I don't think anyone is describing a woman saying hello at the water cooler and the man looking at the ground, not replying and quickly running away. I know I'm definitely not describing that. What I am saying is that stopping by someone's office or desk to shoot the shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:23 PM
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You're painting extremes and ignoring the mundane. Offices are filled with gossip. Two conversations between a man and a woman in an office can easily spread and morph into something it's not. It just isn't worth it if it can be interpreted as flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:06 PM
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While I am friendly to everyone at my office, I only really chit chat with women to whom no one, including them, will think there is even a possibility that I'm flirting. The older women and the ugly women basically. I'm cordial with the younger attractive women but that's it. I'm a pretty friendly and outgoing guy, but office gossip is ridiculous and I just will not risk any rumors or gossip if I'm seen talking to one of the babes. It's just not worth it. It sucks because some of them are proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:03 PM
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just as it is hard for men to understand how most women think. Didn't you just do a whole write up describing how you perceive women think?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:54 PM
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The top-level Chads know that some women will sleep with them no matter how aggressive and rude they are because on any given night a certain percentage of all women are horny, pissed at their boyfriends, or disappointed about an exam they just flunked. Those women are just looking for the hottest guy they can snag, and nearly every woman is one of those women on some nights. This
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:19 PM
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But...that would destroy the comforting embrace of their victim complex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:29 PM
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But...I saw a meme with different salmon filets, isn't that scientific fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:07 AM
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I identify as a future 50 y/o passport bro retiring to philippines to settle down. Peak reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:42 AM
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Not fat is far and away my biggest deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:09 AM
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Like the song says "If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, *never * make a pretty woman your wife."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:11 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:56 PM
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My hand does
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:00 PM
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Only them missing out and obviously the poor woman they've managed to get into bed. You're assuming these guys have ever actually been with a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:30 PM
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It's because they've never given a woman good sex and been on the receiving end when she returns the favor lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:23 PM
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Trp: women only care about good sex. If you give it good she'll always want you Also trp: going down on women is for cucks. If you go down on a woman you're a beta Smdh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:13 PM
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They go for many reasons. If a passport bro lives abroad for an extended period of time, he's an expat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:22 AM
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EXPAT's is the white version of 'passport bros' Expat is just short for expatriate, a citizen of one country living in another. What circles do you run in where expat means passport bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:05 AM
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Truly fucked is definitely synonymous with bad. Is English not your first language. The population decreasing isn't bad. It's what comes with it, that is. I'm not sure what you mean. Are Hurricanes not bad, it's just what comes with them is bad? Are earthquakes not bad it's just what comes with them is bad? Are we even speaking the same language?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:28 PM
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I never said it was bad "truly fucked" isn't synonymous with bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:03 PM
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Why is that bad though? Can humanity only survive with a perpetually increasing population?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:59 PM
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Even in Africa you're seeing rates drop, especially in developing places like Ghana and Kenya.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:50 PM
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Ok, this is a fun game. Define purple pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:54 PM
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Purple pill is a movement? Is no pill a movement too? Blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:49 PM
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And if they spent less time dating and focused more on their health, fitness and career wouldn’t that mean women would be less experienced in dating and relationships? I don't think that's a very big deal. These women are still dating. I'm still not convinced it's better or worse, which is why I asked for some evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:48 PM
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My movement? What movement is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:47 PM
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I'm bitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:43 PM
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The trend of the beautiful 35ish year old single career driven women is is a GOOD one and I think more people should strive for it, and from what I am seeing more and more are. This will only lead to longer lasting and happier relationships overall in the future between more realised and experienced people. Ok, but you haven't provided any evidence that this is, or will, actually happen
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:32 PM
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Everything from 18-45 Show me the percentage breakdown of each age group Women who did not complete schooling up to PhDs Again, show me the breakdown We see only fans girls, waitresses, lawyers, athletes and everything in between Breakdown or gtfo Having one women with a PhD doesn't overshadow the hundreds of moron women they bring on. Same with age, and career. They are disproportionately broken ratchet women. I could randomly take five women from my circle of friends who would make these guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:06 PM
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many seem to think that disarming a woman is the same thing as attracting one. It's in the same ballpark
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:07 PM
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women only want men who other women want” is projection. It's not projection. It's taking a phenomenon that exists and then morphing it into an all or nothing law of nature When a man is in the company of other women and those women are comfortable around him, yes that makes other women think that he's s good enough dude that other women like him. That's absolutely a plus for a man. But it doesn't mean "women only want men who other women want”. Unfortunately socially inept people are unable to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:09 PM
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She could've chosen to be the breadwinner herself and let the father be the homemaker. It was her own decision to stay at home and let the man earn the household income. Apart from carrying and bearing the child, men and women have identical agency to make a division of household roles. It's not like she has no say in all of that. If you don't make agreements on that before starting a family, consequences like losing on earning potential or having a strained relationship with the kids are their …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:38 AM
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If one partner home with the babies and was granted alimony, but then they remarried to a partner whose salary is comparable to the ex’s, that would be another situation in which alimony should be rescinded. Ya, that seems fair
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:02 PM
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line cooks are not paying alimony Definitely not lol, I just wanted to be clear that I didn't mean any person whose spouse didn't work must pay alimony regardless of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:55 PM
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My answer in that thread is that if one spouse has stayed at home to raise the kids and take care of the household, it makes sense to give them alimony for a limited amount of time to get on their feet and be able to support themselves I disagree. Depending on income and earning potential of the homemaking partner, alimony can and should be larger. If a couple meets at grad school, and one gives up their career to be a homemaker while the other works for 20 years, that person gave up a lifetime …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:50 PM
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Since she lives at home on his dime instead of contributing financially, would that also make it fair for the man to retroactively charge rent for all the years he let her live in a home where he paid the bills? Would it be fair for the father to get custody to compensate for all the hours he couldn't spend with the kids because he was busy providing and putting food on the table? No, because that's the deal he made. After divorce, his earning potential doesn't change. He can usually get shared …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:45 PM
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I'm 35+ but I am not an unlucky runt. I think I've done pretty well for myself, although currently single. I do have many friends however that I've known for 20+ years who for your description and i think I can answer for them in the aggregate. Were you always a repellant for women? Most, yes. Although not all. What is your life like now? Mostly work and then go home. Lots of video games and/or watching sportsball. Plenty of porn too. Most friends are married so lifestyle and hobbies differ. Did…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:38 PM
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Well, I'm not sure I agree with op that that is dual mating strategy. But assuming it is, it's not the only way. My understanding is that at one time in your life you pursue one kind of mate and in other times you pursue a different kind of mate. I guess for men it would be party girls in their youth and church goer in their adult life, or something like that. But, as others have pointed out, that's not really an option for most men while it is an option for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:14 PM
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I can be attracted to a woman and sleep with her and decide I don't want to wife her up. That's normal, no? Yes it's normal but that's not dual mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:59 PM
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The difference is every woman can do AF/BB. Most men can't do AF if their life depended on it. Ding ding ding
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:58 PM
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I'm a grown man. I don't think I've met a virgin woman in like fifteen years. If I went out with one I'm not sure how I would feel, except that it's pretty weird she's never had sex before. I can understand a young guy wanting a young girl with the same lack of experience. But once you get out of your teens, you need to be realistic. I've slept around quite a bit, so it's not number of partners that I care about. The only thing about her sex part that matters to me is if I am an outlier in her h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:30 PM
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It is not actually women that they hate so much. The real crux of the problem for these guys is just how much they hate themselves. People who hate themselves, tend to project that hate into others. Based
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:24 PM
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I love these analogies because intimacy is the only aspect of society in which a ruthless free market is not only accepted but embraced. There is no other aspect of society in which envy of, and tbh even acknowledgement of, privilege is completely disregarded. NB4, no, I am not advocating for a state enforced solution in any way, shape or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:11 PM
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It absolutely is, but women here will deny it. There is a huge chasm of a difference between women who explicitly like taken men and the observed reality that women generally are more comfortable and open to guy who demonstrates that other women are comfortable and open around him. Sometimes I comment and people say 'why are you purple pill'? This is why. Obvious facts of reality are denied by the blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:17 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:38 PM
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Basically the same as women get. It's not considered taboo for women to be told what men find attractive. It is however, taboo for men to be told what women find attractive. So, for the young boys and men in my life, I tell them that, more or less in order of importance, Look good (out of their control) Don't not look good (100% in their control, ie style, clothes, hair, etc) Be fit (don't need to be a gym rat, but get fit, not fat) Be outgoing and sociable Have friends Don't intensely focus on …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:13 PM
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Personally I don't have a problem with it. I feel for my short, ugly and/or socially awkward brothers out there, I do. But the cold hard truth is that this is the world and any proposals to 'remedy' this world would either do more harm than good or would just not achieve the results intended. Women like what they like and in the aggregate that means a not insignificant amount of men will be left out in the cold. It's the most ruthless form of capitalism that exists. My problem is that young men …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:23 PM
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The VP as well
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:16 PM
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It's not a majority of marriages which are like th Ya despite what the red pill wants us to believe is not the majority. But also, despite what the blue pill narrative is, it happens quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:37 PM
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Is there anything new with purple pill dudes, you are all the same Umm, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:11 PM
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I don't think it's really settling if you want a certain kind of partner but you've never actually had a partner that meets those standards. That's just delusion. It's settling when you've had what you wanted, but now you can't have it. That's settling. And in those cases, it's lose lose for everyone involved. NB4, people in this sub like to make it sound like women are the only ones who settle. I think it's true that more women than men have to settle, but I know quite a few men who slayed when…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:08 PM
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A visual difference between a 20 year old and a 30 year old men of the same race is much smaller than that of 2 men of the same age but different races. Because age difference is far more about lifestyle and interests than appearance. That's just virtue-signaling and nothing else. Virtue signaling, gtfo with that shyte. What, are you going to call me an sjw next? I'm not interested in discussing this with someone who resorts to that kind of nonsense. I've made my point, you're entitled to disagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:45 PM
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I wonder if we have different ideas of what preference means. If you're using preference in the context of 'all things being equal I guess I prefer brown hair' that's fine I guess. But if preference means 'I only date black women despite the fact that there are plenty of other women to choose from', nah mate that's weird. Especially if that person lives in a racially homogenous place I'm sorry, what? A Japanese person who grew up in Japan and lives in Japan, who is only interested in Japanese pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:18 PM
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I mean, there are hair color preferences and those aren't considered weird I consider that pretty weird But skin color preference is weird for you? Race is not equal to skin color ffs. Have you ever even met an Asian person? What color is their skin? You can't really ignore all the cultural things that impact racial preferences, but leaving that side, if you break it down, what is it that people like? Is it blonde hair? Women can dye their hair. Is it asmall nose? All sorts of different women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:50 PM
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In my lived experience, I'd say about 25-30% of women I know ended with guys who are completely different than who they got around with during their youth. And for the vast majority of them, the dudes they got with in their youth were more attractive than the schlubs they ended up with. And I'm now at the age when divorces are starting to happen and lo and behold, it's disproportionately those women getting divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:18 PM
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That's fair, but I think the gender dynamics play a role. The girls are learning from their father and mother while the boys are learning from their mother and father.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:40 PM
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The most egregious example may be Brittni Colleps Wow, i just read about this. Her wife gets gangbanged by four dudes and he 'stands by her'. Are any of his children boys? What does he think he's teaching them about self respect by staying with her. Absolute loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:32 PM
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Yes it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:13 PM
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People who have racial preferences are weird, full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:09 PM
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Ya seriously. If you think relationships are supposed to be easy, you're definitely going to have pretty crazy relationship views lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:23 PM
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Sorry to offend anyone but Americans just aren’t as concerned with how they present themselves compared to other cultures. This is a fact, so don't apologize. It's one thing I really dislike about American culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:20 PM
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Nope. Just because it doesn't work out and you break up doesn't make the relationship a disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:53 PM
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China for some of the time, also Vietnam and Indonesia with a stint in Thailand
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:10 AM
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I never said it does
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:01 AM
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That we are one of the fattest countries on earth is indisputable, are you seriously disputing that? I thought you wanted specific data that there as many fat men as women, to which I have none except my own anecdotal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:30 AM
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No data, just my anecdotal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:22 AM
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There are just as many fat men as there are women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:14 AM
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Again, how did you come to know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:54 AM
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I lived in Asia for ten years. 1 is absolutely 100% the biggest fallacy of all of them. 2 is true but only if you can't get laid back home. 3 is tough to say, probably 50/50. 4 is absolutely 100% true. 5 this is up to personal preference. Personally I think all ethnicities have beautiful women. However, the lack of fat women means that more women are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:52 AM
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I lived in Asia for ten years. I've seen scores of these guys come over and get eaten alive by these women. Whatever it is they think they're getting they're wrong. Except the no fat chicks part. That's definitely true. I've seen some good relationships too, but faaaaar more disasters
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:48 AM
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there are plenty of fit western women as well. Rofl
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:46 AM
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He thinks his 200k annually means that doubling that income would change nothing in his life, smh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:05 PM
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Not true. At best, your conflating women feeling more comfortable around a guy when other women are already comfortable around him. Getting a woman comfortable around you is like, half the battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:22 PM
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Very true. The Mexicans and English are gunning for us as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:40 PM
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The average American is fat so any person who pictures an average that isn't fat is wrong Edit; fixed a word
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:45 PM
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How many times do I have to copy and paste what she wrote before you comprehend it? "Their gain, your loss" It's clear as day what she means.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:51 AM
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wouldn't that be to the guy's gain? Yes, like she said "their gain"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:49 AM
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being used as a one-sided masturbatory aid to an ungrateful guy that will likely also judge you for it. Did she stutter?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:45 AM
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Why are you a stereotype or why do women generally not sleep around like men do given the same level of options?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:00 PM
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If a female model had walked into the gym, she could’ve done the same thing with the guys there. Jfc, you're like a walking stereotype of what RP complains about. If a female fitness model was at a gym for a few months and actually did sleep with all the dudes there, all dudes of varying looks, then you'd have a point. But it never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:34 PM
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Ha can we agree that Vietnam has the best bread in Asia?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:25 PM
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I've spent probably three months in Vietnam over the course of ten years. That was not my experience with Vietnamese food.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:22 PM
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Steak isn't Vietnamese cuisine though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:19 PM
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Food is way better in Vietnam though, so there's that at least lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:57 PM
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I lived in East Asia for over a decade. In probably 2009 I was vacationing in the Philippines and met a guy from Chicago, probably about 30 at the time. He received an inheritance from his grandfather that would pay about $1,000 a month for the rest of his life. He visited a few locations, Thailand and Costa Rica for sure, but he settled on White Beach in Mindoro. That thousand dollars paid for his flat on the beach, a seasonal trip to Manila, a trip home once a year, dining out for virtually ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:36 PM
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For the three men that I responded to, they were very kind and wanted to talk about ourselves first rather than jump right into sex. Noticeably absent is how good looking those guys are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:13 PM
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Men are more rational so our emotions are more rational. Ha, pure copium bro Men get angry to fix things, women get angry to control people. It's very different. Jfc, the cope is strong with this one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:00 PM
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The idea that women are emotional while men are not. I mean ffs, where do I even begin with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:13 PM
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Absolutely. My physical requirements go down as her income goes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 01:14 PM
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I have plenty of women in my life that I would call friends and they would say the same. Late thirties though, while I'm not opposed, I don't realistically see developing a friendship with a woman I'm not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:22 AM
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You do not understand genetic bottlenecking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:40 PM
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Not that I agree with OP, but while proportionally the number of Chads is small, numerically there are plenty of them. If only Chad is impregnating women, I don't see how that isn't a good thing for the species lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 12:09 PM
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If anything, it's the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 03:35 AM
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That isn't true. I think we live in a diet patriarchy. Isn't that kind of proving my point? And if virtually every society ever to have existed is patriarchal, is it patriarchy or just humans and their societies?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:29 PM
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If men hold the societal narrative and call the shots and women hold no or little power, how are men supposed to know what women like and find sexy. I think you and I would disagree on whether we live in a patriarchy. Suffice to say, if you can use one term to describe ancient Rome, Tang China and The Aztecs, as well as modern Japan, Sweden, Ghana and Canada, it's essentially a meaningless word.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:22 PM
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Why is it mainstream? The why is irrelevant. I hate how we women get the blame to men not knowing how to be attractive to women. Ya, I think it's pretty dumb too As if it's our fault and we want men to be unattractive, instead of the result of us never getting the chance to be open and fully expressive with our sexuality from the metathorical societal podium. The result of this is that a minority of men, a small minority but still a numerically large amount, are essentially doomed. It's an uncom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:14 PM
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If a woman couldn't attract men you would simply blame it on her being unattractive and expect her to figure it out, politely listen to advice or accept it with pride and just move on, not for her to yell at men and threaten to take away their basic human rights until they change their mind. Those are fair points. However, advice for women to attract men is very mainstream and, most importantly, effective advice. It's just not like that for men, you need to realize that. While I agree that the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:04 PM
17

Ya...and 'silly' used to mean 'blessed' but in 2023 it has a different meaning...like chivalry...which is what op asked about...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:18 PM
2

They don’t think it’s misogynistic if men preferred a partner that shaved they only dislike when those men say women SHOULD shave. Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:20 PM
10

You, random anonymous redditor, may not think it's misogynistic. But others in wider society do, which is what op is asking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:42 PM
1

BS, you couldn't even give me six
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:31 AM
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Men's sexual market value can be worked for, whereas women's SMV is mostly genetics. Based. Men's SMV does not decline as rapidly as women's True, but it starts at a way lower level Men can buy happiness more easily than women. Nah, men need emotional intimacy too TLDR: In summary, men have the PRIVILEGE of working for their SMV, while women are born with what they get. I repeat, based Some men are screwed, especially our short brothers. There is no inherited trait that is a bigger detriment, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:23 AM
9

Wait until dudes make groups called "Is this girl a ho" and watch women completely flip the script lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:06 AM
2

You have no clue what you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:50 AM
4

Wtf are you talking about? How much time have you lived in China? Can you even speak the language?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:50 AM
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I don't know better bachelor but I really can't see what kind of video that could be related to dating and sex dynamics would elicit those kind of responses
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:22 AM
8

Lol, mic drop
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:05 AM
5

Talking to women "as people" first usually gets the guy friendzoned Get to know women as people without pursuing them for relathionship/sex These are absolutely not the same thing. Treating women like people means NOT putting them on a pedestal and tiptoeing around what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:51 AM
38

A 9 is the highest objective rating. A 10 is different for every man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 01:02 AM
3

we previously had a stable situation (enfored monogamy, patrichal rule), There's this meme going around that relationships were simple before sometime around 1970. But this has absolutely no basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:40 AM
6

Nothing. Do you have anything other than your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:21 PM
7

I'm not saying that either of the pills are political. What I am saying is the venn diagram of people on the left and blue pillers is pretty close to a circle, and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:12 PM
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Excellent question op. Many people are taking issue with the left/right blue/red comparison, but it's clearly a thing. And it makes sense tbh. The left views phenomenon through a structural lense. This is why blue pill critiques of modern dating focus on systemic issues like a bad economy, or lack of male role models. The right views phenomenon through an individual lense. This is why red pill critiques of modern dating focus on the individual by promoting self improvement. The problem is that f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:45 PM
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Leftism is a political paradigm based on class structure, it has very little to say about sexual dynamics. That's true to an extent. However, there is clearly a divergence between the left and the right when it comes to analyzing sexual dynamics. Most everyone agrees the redpillosphere stuff is considered right wing. Most everyone agrees blue pill is left wing. I think the core issue is that the left tends to focus on structural problems. This is why when blue pill people talk about the current …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:36 PM
10

The guys on here are different, in that we don’t have the luxury of seeing what they actually are like IRL. If that were the case I'm confident it would be painfully obvious why they struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:10 PM
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I don't think cult is necessarily the right descriptor, but it's not far off. It's getting more and more maintenance by the day though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:07 PM
1

I hear you man. I just turned 40 myself. I've tried dating single mothers and it's really hard. I pretty much won't date a woman now if they have full custody and don't have a strong support network to help her. Leaving aside the responsibility you would be hypothetically taking on if you even get to that point, you can't even find the time to get to that point. You get maybe a few days a month. How can you develop a relationship with someone you see for 14 hours a month?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:07 PM
1

40/M here. I've never had a problem with dating. I've plenty of girlfriends, lovers, hookups, etc. My problem now is that I came back to the US right as Covid started kicking off which made dating very hard. Then, right as covid started dying down, I accepted a really good job opportunity in a very rural location. So, my options are extremely limited. My standards for dating are not high. Don't be fat and don't have five kids with three dads. But that right there eliminates a significant amount …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:57 PM
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I don't understand. My point is that the term pipeline, in this context, is almost exclusively a pejorative. It's not an objective description of a vaguely connected assemblage of somewhat affiliated people and groups that collectively try to bring people to a certain viewpoint. If an altright pipeline exists then either there are pipelines of various sizes for all political ideologies or it only exists for the altright. I find the latter very hard to believe. That's all I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:42 PM
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They call it a pipeline if they don't like it. When someone gets exposed to ideas they like and then become more and more open to those ideas that's just called good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:00 PM
5

Wait, you're comparing neoliberal globalization to passport bros?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:24 AM
11

What is it they always say? Don't ask a fish, ask a fisherman. Clearly this is not the fisherman to ask
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 12:20 AM
5

Young men need guidance, both in their personal life and from broader society. Just telling young men to figure it out on their own isn't helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:15 PM
5

Because you can make out and play with her boobs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:01 AM
1

I'd have to see the details but ya, I think I would
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:51 PM
0

One of the keys to that is that I didn’t discriminate. if I liked the person and found them attractive on some levels there was a good chance it was happening That sounds like discriminating to me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:12 PM
1

100% correct, and this is why it's more important to look at who a woman racked up her n count with, not the actual number of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:17 PM
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It's relative. I would date a woman taller than me. Just not significantly taller. The masculine or feminine isn't so much their height but their demeanor and their look.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 07:32 PM
11

That doesn't answer the question in the op.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:49 PM
0

I can't speak to their motives, however when you almost exclusively bring on a certain type of woman, you're going to exclusively get a certain type of perspective. If the women in my life were on the podcast it would be a completely different show. The women they bring on can barely even speak in complete sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:15 PM
2

From what I've seen, 100% yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:55 PM
8

No one is at fault, it's just the logical extension of a modern society. If you're a man, you have to be the best you can be. If you don't want to be the best you can be, then you're going to struggle dating women. Women need to be smart early on. To some degree you need a crystal ball to know what you'll want later in life because if you make the wrong choices early it will be that much harder when you're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:55 PM
1

Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 02:47 PM
1

I think I’m pretty purple pilled. There’s a lot of things about “women’s nature” that I agree with. Women tend to want the highest status/tallest/richest/handsomest guy. Women can have sex with people higher up than them and think this means they can secure a relationship with those guys. Women can throw men’s vulnerability back in their face. But I disagree with trp on AWALT. All you have to do is look around the world and see poor people getting into happy relationships to disapprove of that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 02:47 PM
1

If you combine the color purple with the color blue, what color do you have? You have a shade of blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 02:45 PM
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I'm a man and I consider myself purple pilled. Tbh, your op screams blue pull to me. Your last paragraph seems like you wrote out all your beliefs but then thought 'that's all blue pill, I'd better write something that seems red'. To me at least, being a purple pilled man means that you recognize that the red pill gets a lot right in general but that they then expand from those correct observations to incorrect determinations. For example, I think the 80/20 rule is a good example. While we can q…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 02:40 PM
1

As a rural guy 5 years younger than you who's married with children Are you in the same rural area you grew up in?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:17 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:15 AM
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Women are emotional and men are logical Your premise is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:03 AM
10

Sex usually comes after a bond with your partner Rofl
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:30 PM
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You're misinterpreting. I'm not saying people don't have aggressive discussions about issues. I'm saying that it's an aspect of American culture that when someone brings up some societal phenomenon, the immediate assumption is that the person has a strident opinion on the solution. Why else would they bring it up unless they're a <insert objectionable group>.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:07 PM
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No it's not. Have you ever been to Japan? People there can bring up the issue with the birth rates without an immediate and aggressive "So what are you saying we need to force women to give birth and date losers? People who bring this up are usually incel fascists."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:04 PM
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No, it's a Left Wing American thing. That's not true at all. There are countless stats that I could point out to conservative people and I'd get the same type of response. Medical bills are the top cause of bankruptcy in America. "So what are you saying? We should have death panels and communist medicine?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:56 PM
9

It's not just a Reddit thing. It's an American thing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:39 PM
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I'm not sure if my reply is changing your view or not, but this is a bigger thing than just this one issue. This is an American phenomenon (not the stats but what I'm about to say). In this country, identifying a societal phenomenon, without any sort of solution, is like some weird taboo thing. In Japan, usually the poster child for the decline of relationships, you can talk about it without a tense expectation that you have an opinion on the solution, or if there should even be a solution. In A…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:58 PM
1

Where is the disagreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:46 PM
1

What stats are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:34 PM
1

I'd say it's not even just the black community. It's standards for black men in general. Women of other ethnicities who either have a thing for, or just want a taste of, the dark meat will only go for the best of the best. Obviously generalizing but I've been around the block enough and been friends with enough black guys to know that it's a whole different ball game for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:17 PM
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Their standards for attractive black men are insane In my experience all the things men complain about are like exponentially more pronounced for black men. Regardless of the ethnic background of the women; white, black, whatever. If 80/20 is a thing, for black men it's like 97/3.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:00 PM
2

I grew about 13 inches within a 3-month period, Jfc dude. I was picturing every sci-fi film I've ever seen that had some form of sped up aging process. Star Trek 3 for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:57 PM
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They're usually more picky lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:21 PM
2

That's just fine, as long as you recognize that the pool of potential partners will be exceedingly small.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:03 PM
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This is one of those things that is tough to understand for people who need objective data or are on the spectrum. A proper understanding of 80/20 is that it is a rough estimation of the aggregate desirability women have towards men. Like GDP or median income, it's essentially irrelevant to an individual living their lives. Or, as they say in econ 101, the macro is not the micro. But, it still has value in understanding human behavior. Just like GDP data is valuable, even to the common man. I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:33 PM
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Assuming this is a CMV, you're only highlighting the negatives. Social media has also created many positives for humanity. I've lived all over the world and social media allows me to keep in contact with friends I've made along the way. Social media allows individuals to spread information that people never would have seen without Twitter or Facebook. I remember a time when girls would all hover over a magazine and go through it no differently than they now do with social media. There is the fam…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:03 PM
2

Excellent question I don't think anyone can definitively answer this question. However, it's clear that women's attraction, while certainly influenced by physical characteristics, is also very reactive. There was a very interesting study done where a group of men and women were shown photos of the opposite sex and then asked to rate them. Then, they were given a brief description of the person in the photo. When asked to rate the attractiveness after learning about the person, the men ranked the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:13 PM
6

blame women for having sex with them? Do you even know the definition of accountability? Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:19 PM
6

Spend some time on the Adultery sub I don't consider Reddit to be anything more than anecdotal at best. Otherwise I don't really disagree with anything you've written. The purple pill is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:12 PM
1

Ok There are broad things every man can do to make themselves more attractive to women. There are also individual specific things that an individual man can do to make himself more attractive to women. You're either doing both wrong, one wrong, or you have some problem that is difficult to overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:43 PM
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You're not working hard enough or are working on the wrong things if this is your mentality. Also won't CMV if you say it might work for OTHER men. Then you should change your post because your title says 'men' as in, all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:37 PM
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I think they would say that it's a risk mitigation strategy. Not driving would decrease my risk of dying in an automobile accident, but I'd also live a subpar life. Same with dating. All dating comes with risks. But you can mitigate those risks with a sound saying strategy. Again, I'm not an n count focused guy. The aspects of a woman's past that matter to me are not the specific number of men, but who those men were.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:26 PM
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Well, I'm not one of those guys, but I think they would say it's a calculated risk. A low n woman may cheat, but a high n woman is more likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:30 PM
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Not that I'm one of the guys pursuing low n count women, but why would the converse not also be an issue? ie, after seven years she might say 'I know what else is out there and I need some some'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:18 PM
13

You missed the entire point of my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:44 PM
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Based on other comments here, the sticking point is the definition of 'prefer'. If preference means 'the best situation that a woman wants' then the answer is clearly women do not prefer soft harems. But, if preference means 'the situation women will accept when they can't have exactly what they want' then clearly a soft harem is their preference. So, as is usual in America, we don't have a collectively accepted meaning of a word and so we argue over the semantics and ignore the bigger picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:40 PM
1

That’s convenience Convenience is value
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:27 PM
1

I can't discount your lived experience. All I can tell is my experience, which is having lived in foreign lands immersed in the cultures, now that I'm back it's clear as day that what I described is an aspect of American culture. You're focusing just on the sexual lifestyle aspect, but it's an everything aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:27 PM
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men will fuck women they don’t like Women need to like you and find you attractive Ya, that's the value
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:14 PM
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Just bc one sex gets free validation and cheap sex easy doesn’t equate to high value. Maybe not high value, but value nonetheless. I think we focus too much on how low value the average men is, while disregarding how equally low value the average woman is bc people equate validation with value and bc it’s socially unacceptable to criticize a woman in the context of what she adds to society other than her beauty Yes, that's true. Except the equally part. By definition if two people, of different …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:10 PM
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I also think judging people might be our national pastime. I think what Americans consider judging wouldn't be considered judging by most other cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:04 PM
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Hook up culture has the same pitfall as purity culture, it put a created a crushing social pressure on a group of different people to take one specific approach to dating. We need a culture that acknowledges mass shaming of people for either having sex or not having sex is damaging. The issue with this is that one aspect of American culture is this idea that if you say you have a preference or opinion on a topic it means you think any other opinion or preference is wrong. This applies to pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:40 PM
2

He wants children with me but sadly we can't afford it. We're both in full time white collar jobs I mean this in all sincerity, how can two full time white collar jobs not support a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:17 PM
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Nah mate, she's a 5/10 at worst, probably more like a 6.5
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:38 PM
11

Women are worse at achieving orgasm that man is willing to first do charity Jfc, this is a ridiculous mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 02:16 PM
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And if you’re about to tell me raising your kids while being home is hard, please go work my 60 hours week office job and I’ll raise the kids. I have a six figure job and work a lot. If I quit now and tried to get back in ten years later, I'd get laughed out of the room. You're not addressing the point op is making
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:34 AM
2

I'm friends with a few women who have been with celebrities. Do you think when they're out with friends that they're reminiscing about the footballers they smashed that one night, or their current boyfriend. NB4, if your reply is bUt tHoSe aRe jUsT sHiTTy wOmEn, don't bother
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:42 PM
2

If you asked a religious zealot, or a bigot, or a right wing leaning individual regarding rape, their response will be one of "it's her fault that she got raped" type of response. This is tied to their ideology. You won't find reasoning or a level headed approach to your question. Some will, but not all. The other cohort will say some variation of "the child is still blameless"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:58 PM
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You're not oppressed because people are a bit less likely to date you. What if you changed the adjective "bit" with something else? Is it the degree that people are less likely to date you? Anyway, if oppression is defined as a societal structure that limits one's ability to achieve happiness and success, then I don't see how it's not oppression. Swap out height with any other immutable characteristic and it's oppression. Why do the rules change if it's height and dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:52 PM
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For people who argue the past is always the past, does this extend to other serious dealbreakers? Yes of course What about someone who turned their life around after blowing their inheritance on cocaine and heroin? I would definitely be very hesitant to get involved with a former drug addict. What about someone who has a criminal background? This is absolutely a factor. Obviously it's a scale based on the type of crime though Does your belief that the past is the past still apply? Of course, are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:48 PM
2

If it was one child I'd probably go with the single mother. In this case though, assuming I have to choose one of these two, I'd go with the party girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:28 PM
1

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:39 PM
2

What group are you in where abandoning children is praised? Lmao that’s just wild. Are we speaking the same language? I responded to your claim it's accepted by saying anyone would be a pariah. And you're somehow able to read that is me saying my group praises it? Because a father doesn’t have to claim a child, sign a birth certificate, or be their for the birth in the fist place. I agree that pregnancy is born by the woman. But the mother can put whatever name she wants for the father wtf are y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:30 PM
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The social shame and ridicule for a woman abandoning a child is much worse then a man doing it, a man can even get let off easy socially by paying child support. Maybe in the circles you run in. If any of my friends abandoned their kids they'd be a pariah. For a woman to abandon the child she either has to give up a already born child to foster care, Leave it with the father ( if he’s willing) How is that not exactly same for the father? Or abort. I'll give you abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:25 PM
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They have this deep envy of fathers who abandon their kids and think it’s “alpha” to be a deadbeat dad with many baby mamas That's not true at all Your confusing trpers acknowledging or even lamenting the fact that those guys are attractive enough to sleep with multiple women and that those women will get pregnant by him even though they already knew he was a deadbeat ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:23 PM
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Regardless of a man’s smv, should he decide to abandon a family, he just can, with literally no consequences besides child support . Women can do that too wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:19 PM
2

Thank you for this op! The amount of people on Reddit and irl who truly believe that up until fEmiNiSm all woman did was sit at home, cook food and watch kids is mind blowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:59 PM
9

Mm ore than likely if you weren't successful at university you probably won't be wildly successful irl. However, it's very possible you could do better
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 03:08 AM
0

I'm not so sure about that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:32 PM
2

She's settling. She wants her bailout after hitting the wall. Settling and a bailout are not necessarily the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:19 PM
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Well, I'm not the type to go on about AFBB anyway, so you're arguing with the wrong guy. I was replying to the question about settling, not AFBB.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:10 PM
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the whole AFBB thing is about woman who think she can do better but stays with you just because you are safe. I don't think that's what it's about at all. When people talk about AFBB the argument is that they had better, not that they can get better. How is having a kid related to her ability to feel love? Who said it wasn't? The question is about settling. Can you not love someone you've settled for?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:03 PM
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are people with kids unable to feel love again (if the felt it before)? Not necessarily, but I took op's question to mean what are some indicators, not definitive signs
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:52 PM
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if you are different it could be cause she’s changed as a person ROFL, unlikely. Although maybe I wasn't clear that minute differences are not what I'm talking about. But people's preferences do not change so drastically that you'll have years of specific preferences and then poof, suddenly the preference changes. NB4, sure maybe you can point to one person, maybe it's even you. I don't care, I'm talking about probability, not possibility. There are millions of women in this world, why take a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:34 PM
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Definitely if you are noticeably different from the guys she used to get with. If she has kids. If she used to be very active but now just likes to lay around and do nothing. If sex with her is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:10 PM
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If she have a high body count and decided to magically decided that you're the guy she should stay and form a family. That's only an indicator of you're not like the dudes she used to hook up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:08 PM
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A guy who convinces himself that he has to be 6'5", ruggedly handsome, white, etc., and at the same time be perfect emotionally - always confident, never nervous or anxious or shy, never get angry, etc., will set himself up for failure 100% of the time. As nobody can possibly meet those unrealistic expectations, men end up disappointed with themselves and there is nothing that kills self esteem and confidence like being disappointed with yourself. I've read through your comments here and it seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:39 PM
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I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:35 PM
1

Just turned 40 In theory, 27-44, practically speaking though, 31-38
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:05 PM
1

I think it's pretty weird because Instagram photos are small and you can't be naked. So like, what can you see there that you can't see on any of a thousand different porn subreddits. If there is like one particular model that he likes, that's one thing. But multiple different accounts...that just doesn't make sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:10 PM
2

I'd hardly call that policing. People have all sorts of weird standards, I don't understand why this one inspires such vitriol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:47 PM
2

Til body policing is when don't want to date someone
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:19 PM
6

This is the real answer So much of relationship dating sex dynamics are taboo to discuss in any meaningful sense in our society that the only place you can do it is anonymously online
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:09 PM
6

Fitness has always been popular. Nah mate Fitness has taken off as a direct result of the fattification of America. Fitness wasn't a big deal in the past because way more people did fitness in their everyday lives. Walking places, physical jobs and there were no screens to stare at so people did stuff. Plus the whole foods thing I won't get in to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 06:22 PM
0

This study doesn’t tell me that men expect an extra $7k of compensation to date an older women. It tells me that people judge other people based on what are normal achievements for their age group, and don’t want to build a future with people who can’t keep up with life. potato potato
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:40 PM
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Every one of those complaints are valid, but each one has a converse that is on the man to do better at as well You’re a grump. - So are you You're a nag - You're lazy You’re a cold fish in bed. - Sex with you is five minutes of thrusting You’re a frump. - So are you, you probably can't even see your own cock over your beer gut You’re a “Mommy,” and nothing else. - Because she does all the parenting and your idea of a 'date' is a burger at the local bar You’re an alpha parent. - To you, parentin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 10:39 PM
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I hadn't thought about it but I think I subconsciously do this. A younger woman's career and income is less important than an older woman's, albeit marginally
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:51 PM
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If yes under what what conditions? Under the condition we're compatible and live each other If your wife made significantly more than you but somebody needed to stay home to take care of children, would you be ok with doing so? Definitely Edit: BONUS QUESTION: would you prefer a wife who made more than you over one that did not ceteris paribus Definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:51 PM
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And I would bet my life savings that they are all larping and writing fiction. Maybe you're young but I can tell in an instant who is a genuine person on this sub and who isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:21 PM
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Those posts are basically fan fiction
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:03 PM
2

Ok, you're trolling me right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:21 AM
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men don’t hookup with young chicks and marry old ones. That's not what I said for men it’s vice versa, they will tell how they hookup with older chicks and marry young ones. Wtf, where are all these older men hooking up with younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:16 AM
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Ummm, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:13 AM
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You're missing the key point which is very very very few men are actually sleeping with hot young women and then settling with an older woman. The argument made is that many women sleep with certain types of guys when younger but then settle with a different type of guy when they get older. I'm not even the one making those arguments but for the life of me I can't understand why so many here can't comprehend what they're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:53 AM
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A man doesn't 'get women' if he doesn't get women. It's as simple as that. Women can get men even if they don't 'get men'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 03:28 PM
2

Mate, it's definitely a flex Flex away!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 03:22 PM
2

the only one in control of her vagina is that woman...y'all can argue with us till you're blue in the face, that's still not going to make us sleep with guys that we either don't want to sleep with or are not ready to sleep with.... Strawman much? No one, except for maybe aspies and incels, believes what you just wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 03:19 PM
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Ha, for sure. Look at the guy lower in the comments who thinks me blowdrying my hair for a minute makes me a metrosexual and not cramming animal flesh down my gaping maw multiple times a day makes me a vegan ffs Tbh though I've tried giving some advice to friends in the past, but they're so deep in the matrix it's hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 03:09 PM
1

It gets better if you get better at it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 02:59 PM
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You know my initial comment was that my friends engage in some good natured shit talking and high five me when I get laid. Stop acting like an emotional woman, go to the gym and then go engage in some good natured shit talking with some men. You might learn something
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 02:22 AM
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Dudebros think looking good means obsessing. Enjoy your cheeseburger pal
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 02:17 AM
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People usually look down on a guy who seems obsessed with his own appearance. Dudebros are the type of people who think one minute drying one's hair is obsession
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 02:03 AM
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Typical dudebro response. It takes me less than one minute to dry my hair and get it how I like it. I've used a blow dryer the morning after or for getting ready around women plenty of times and it never harmed anything wtf are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 01:42 AM
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Fun fact: the USA spend 10% of annual household income on fast food. 37% of Americans eat it once a day or more and 83% once a week or more JFC that's depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:59 PM
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Eating meat 100% improves your looks via better muscle building because of bioavailable amino acids Every human is different and I can say that this 100% does not apply to me and many other people as well. Do I sacrifice marginal gains at the gym because I don't consume much animal protein? Probably. But I know my body and my body responds best when I don't eat much meat. If you like meat and it works for you, great. The vegetarian diet has done wonders for me and if you saw me at the gym you wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:41 PM
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My dude bro friends who have beer guts and wear screen print T-shirts everywhere always give me shit for using a blow driver for my hair, or wearing shirts with a collar or for not eating copious amounts of animal flesh with every meal. Then they high five me when I make out with some woman at a party or get a phone number at the bar. They never seem to be able to make the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:46 PM
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Yep, all those men making bank on only fans lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 03:53 PM
3

Not necessarily, could just be a locally famous musician
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:07 AM
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I mean, I have a lot of female friends and it's like a small percentage who I've heard say this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:47 AM
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could you please try being more polite? No Either you're a child and have no clue what you're talking about. Or you're a man with the mentality of a child. Get off reddit and go to the gym or play some sportsball.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:35 PM
1

Ah, the classic incel moving of the goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:24 PM
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Oh god, gtfo with that shyte Most women don't notice that most men exist. That doesn't mean they hate them. WTF does hate even mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:21 PM
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I think all people have at least some degree of negative opinion about the other sex. I mean, I'll make a 'wymynz amirite' joke sometimes, often even around female friends. But my friends know I don't hate women, I'm taking the piss a bit, and they'll take the piss right back. But, as a man, do I think there are some annoying things about women? Ya, obviously. And most women will say the same thing about men. That doesn't mean I have hate or contempt for women. It just means I'm a normal human.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:18 PM
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Nah, they just use a more specific definition than you. Most people even further subdivide cheating into the emotional variety and the physical variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:14 PM
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In my experience, it's the getting with lots of women that tends to make them misogynstic, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:12 PM
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I guess, but I don't think that's how most people use that word
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:10 PM
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Under no definition I know of is that cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:51 PM
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I have female friends, some married, who still to this day talk fondly about the footballers or musicians or other high status guys they hooked up with in the past. It goes without saying that they do not talk about their current guys in the same way. And yes of course, not all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:33 PM
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Not necessarily superior per se, although that would be fine. It's more about if I'm just way different than what she likes. Maybe she only got with musicians, or artists, or Asian guys or whatever. Also, it's not like this is a rule set in stone. One of the best women I ever dated was African. Like, from Africa. We met in Taiwan and dated for almost two years. It would be pretty stupid of me to look at her history and be like 'Oh, you only like black guys'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:14 PM
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It's not anger that I would feel. It's just that there are lots of women out there and I have only one life to live. I'm not going to waste the limited time I have on this earth to play the guinea pig so that some woman I barely know can test the waters on a guy that's not her type. I don't live my life based on possibilities, I live my life passed on probabilities. And the probability that some woman I meet, who has a clear and consistent history with men unlike me, is going to magically throw …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:49 PM
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This is sort of my opinion as well. I've done my share of sleeping around so I can't hold it against a woman for that in and of itself Where I draw the line is if there was a lineup of all the dudes she's been with and I would stick out like a sore thumb. If I wouldn't have been an option back then, I'm not running the risk and playing guinea pig for her trying out a new type of guy. I should add, if I stick out in a good way, I'm probably fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:32 PM
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To add to this, families with that many kids usually have extended family that help out and wider networks, usually religious, that help as well. So to op's question, the wife would probably ask her or her husband's family to come help out and just tell the husband what's happening
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 02:12 PM
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She thinks that what she finds attractive, men also find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:57 AM
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Ya, op is essentially telling men to sacrifice their livelihood for a greater good that will never actually happen. A true Faustian bargain
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:36 PM
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The best woman I ever dated was black, I still think about her often African widowed for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:36 PM
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It was actually pretty funny
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:29 PM
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It's not harmful, it's very helpful actually. You're probably confusing being a nice person with being a doormat with no opinions of your own that aren't calculated to please your girl. It's a common mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:05 PM
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You should always be escalating. Now, for the neurodivergent among us, that doesn't mean every single moment should be escalation. It's nuanced and should be gradual. But if you don't escalate the date from where you started, you're doing it wrong. NB4, incremental escalation is the key, especially for beginners. Don't immediately stick your tongue down her throat ffs, at least not until you're more experienced because sometimes that's called for, albeit rarely. Women can be incredibly frustrati…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:31 PM
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I lived most of my adult life, from 26 to 38 among expats in East Asia. My life experiences in general, let alone with dating, are so far removed from most Americans that I often feel like an outsider, even though I was born and raised here. Dating, adulting, everything I feel so out of place and confused sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:16 PM
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The vast majority of men. But they don’t want to be like the majority of men. I want to be the playboy plowing a over dozen women but dont want to admit he’s equally as shallow and dickish as the men he idolizes. I don't disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:29 PM
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Young men want sex. They look around and see very clearly who gets attention from women. You can scream into the void all day long 'not all women' but you might as well bash your head against a brick wall. If I said Americans like to eat hamburgers, does it matter if you're a vegetarian and don't eat meat? No, it doesn't matter at all. One person's preferences or behavior is irrelevant when looking at an entire population set. So, you may not like the terminology, but sleeping with someone is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:24 PM
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The amount of obese people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:22 PM
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Truth They say that's what happened to Andrew Tate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:35 AM
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I don't disagree. Too many young men are given garbage advice about this sort of stuff. And then what happens is they try using that advice, fail miserably, and then they get garbage advice from other people but on the other side of the spectrum. We'd be a lot better off if we could be honest about sex, attraction, relationships, etc. But all of that stuff is pretty taboo in American society. All I can do is give sound advice to the young men in my life, which I definitely do and will continue t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:30 PM
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Being a people pleaser in the hopes that it will garner good will in others' eyes and you receive your karma, whether that be through platonic or romantic relationships. Ya, that's the stereotypical nice guy. Don't be that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:11 PM
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I remember thinking 'oh here we go, she'll kiss the prince and live happily ev...oh wait, she flipped the script, nice'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:50 PM
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Being a nice guy has only helped me with women, both short term and long term. But I don't consider a nice guy to be some loser no self worth doormat who is too timid to say anything to a woman other than 'would m'lady like a drink of the finest spirits'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:52 PM
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It's only false advertising if you think being a nice person means being a no self worth doormat who treats women like m'lady is some angel from on high.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:47 PM
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Wrong That's why I separated actual nice guys and the stereotypical nice guys. I'm a nice guy and it benefits me every day in multiple ways, including with women. But I'm not the type of nice guy who wears a fedora and gets highlighted in r/niceguys
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:42 PM
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Stereotypical nice guy? No advantage and probably disadvantage Actual nice guy? Advantages in all areas of life, including dating and sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:32 PM
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This was a banger back in like 1952 ♫♬If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, don't make a pretty woman your wife♫♬ ♫♬From my personal point of view, get an ugly girl to marry you♫♬
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 02:23 AM
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Nah, the idea is that if she's less attractive than he is, she'll feel like he's a catch and will treat him better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 02:21 AM
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It's not a hard requirement. There are women out there who don't have a university education that I would date seriously. But the likelihood that a woman without a degree will be able to fit into many of my social circles is unlikely. When I bring her to meet extended family or friends from university, I need someone who can be at that same level. Additionally, the type of woman with the type of intelligence I'm looking for in a partner and mother of my children will likely have a degree of some…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:40 PM
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Most people don’t join massive echo chambers too. I would say people joining massive echo chambers is a characteristic of our modern society. From news, to hobbies and yes, to dating advice, the vast majority in their own echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:24 PM
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They enjoy being told that women will hit the wall at 30 and that women's value goes down as her partner count goes up. Yes, schadenfreude is a phenomenon, no doubt Go watch an F&F podcast, it's like 20 mins of bashing men and then 2 hours of bashing women. I've seen clips but I have more important things than three hours of that kind of podcast. I'm not denying that RP podcasts need content every single day and that shitting on women's stupid antics gets views. But the core of RP is that most m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 05:11 PM
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If the blue pill narrative didn't deny a few obvious social phenomenon, trp would be irrelevant. It's that denial of what men have experienced that leads them to trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 03:50 PM
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Because the red pill tells them what they want to hear. That’s like saying there’s a reason people find value in the fat acceptance movement. That's not really true. Most people failing at things, anything, don't generally want to be told it's their fault and that the only way to improve is to improve yourself. It's not comparable to fat acceptance because fat acceptance claims you don't need to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 03:49 PM
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That's what a marriage is ffs. If a man is ambivalent about his girl's career, and willingly marries as the sole income earner, then don't sit there with a shocked Pikachu face when you have to pay her alimony. If that's a concern, don't get married
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 03:43 PM
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it would be justified for a married man who is not satisfied by his relationship to cheat in order to not deal with said losses. I guess that's true, as long as he doesn't get caught. Also, like many men on this sub, you're assuming that the man is the bread winner and the woman is a stay at home mom or otherwise low income. So, in those cars you're probably right. But those cases are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:00 AM
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Your title and conclusion have no relation to the body of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:53 AM
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True, I find an intelligent and educated woman attractive in general. Something about hard sciences gives just that little extra.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:57 PM
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Anecdotal evidence of the pareto principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:47 PM
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I'm not sure exactly, it's hard to know exactly why certain things are attractive. I think the fact that those fields are male dominated, the kind of woman who would choose it would probably be really smart but also confident enough to always be the only woman in the room. Don't get me wrong, it's not like I would only date a woman in that field, or that working in that field is a big part of the equation. But it would certainly increase my interest in the beginning. Over time it's more about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:22 PM
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No, I studied economics and political science, starting an MBA next spring. I don't find it attractive because it's the same thing I studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:13 PM
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In hindsight, I should have said hard science. Pretty much any non social science. The more difficult the field the better
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:05 PM
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Any degree in a hard science would increase my interest in a woman Edit; clarified the kind of science degree
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 08:48 PM
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If you live in a small town where everyone knows each other, and most don’t leave, maybe going to church or the local drinking hole or tennis club might get a whole bunch of results. Tinder is pointless in places like this, everyone swipes through every prospect that exists within 50 miles in one night. So of course more people will meet locally and of course more people will settle because options are slim and the economy is quaint so you’re not chasing high earners….so it’s fairly chill….your …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:49 PM
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They're two different leagues
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:15 PM
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The amount of women who casually fuck some guys but make the man they supposedly want to be with for the rest of there lives wait for a year is essentially zero. A few dates, sure. A month, rarely. But a year? Gtfo with that absurdity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:08 PM
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Just turned 40, 4 LTRs total, currently single
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:04 PM
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Men on the other hand, love taking risks. I almost spit my coffee when I read this, real 'we hunted mammoths' energy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:31 PM
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Mic drop
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:16 PM
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Not having sex was probably a key indicator, but I was young and stupid and idealistic. Got that out of my system real fast
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 09:20 PM
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Its very eye opening to see how woman treat different guys differently and put guys in these boxes. This
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 11:58 AM
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I'm surprised more trpers haven't bombarded you with 'wELl aCksHuLLy' replies by now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:14 PM
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It came from the real world. Look around you, I see loads of disgusting male specimens roaming around with average women. I see average schlubs with absolute babes. Rarely do you see the opposite, although I admit it does happen. The real question is why do so many young men feel as though they were told that women only care about what's inside and don't care at all about looks or status. Because there are loads of men who feel exactly that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:14 PM
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I think you replied to the wrong person
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:45 PM
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You can't fuck around, be a single mom or dead beat dad and then be suddenly "lol, i'm a born again christian trad nao". That's not conservative conviction, just pretense. Gotcha, it originally sounded like you were saying that you can't be a trad man if you won't wife up a single mother with four kids from three different dads
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:51 PM
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Yes* If my nieces or nephews lost their parents or my friends die and I'm in the best position to raise their kids, absolutely. What's the other option, have them raised in foster care?! Hell no But if you're asking in the context of dating, that becomes a much grayer area. In that case I am very hesitant and it depends greatly on the custody arrangement, level of extended family involvement and number of kids. So, a divorced mother with two kids who has 50/50 custody and has siblings and parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:45 PM
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Anyone saying "no, I don't wanna be a cuck" isn't really socially conservative. You don't get to pick and choose from trad roles: You have a duty to provide no ifs, no buts. Woman has a duty to follow. That's the covenant which makes it work in the first place, you can't just eat your cake and have it too. Wait, what? I genuinely have no clue what you're trying to say here
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:39 PM
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But isn't that if it's been like five years since the child's birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:02 PM
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Then don't suggest it, just do it. If the test comes back and it says you're not the father, then you can suggest it to your girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:21 PM
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This isn't France. If a man wants a paternity test he can get one. Edit; fixed a word
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:31 AM
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Ha, good one, you got me, that must be the only reason one could be skeptical that your three daughters claim that not a single man exists that they could date. I hope you're looking forward to being a cat grandpa!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:32 PM
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To the extent that it prevents your three daughters from finding one young man to date, yes it's absolutely delusional. Based on your few posts here, my guess is that you happily feed into the delusion that no one is good enough for your little princesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:20 PM
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If they posted here I'd shoot them. Also, you presented this as if it was true, and not your daughters' delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:01 PM
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Oh please, there are loads of men out there who fit that description. Your daughters are most likely too picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:42 AM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:38 PM
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Now, what do all these have in common? capitalism as a system is primarily designed to maximize profits at all costs - meaning that in order to maximize profits, human behavior in itself needs to be changed - car culture means big oil and car companies maximize, the lack of a 3d place means large chains benefit as well as increased isolation, increased isolation means entertainment, social media and so on all benefit - all at the cost of your humanity. All of these large corporate entities liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 03:34 PM
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It's not all wrong. They are more likely to approach women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:07 PM
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For women looking for a relationship, if you're in the top ten percentile, I think it's actually harder. A lot of guys who would make great partners aren't going to approach you and even if you do somehow go out there is a not insignificant chance that he'll be way insecure and ruin any chance at a relationship. But in general, being attractive gives you more options, it's just up to you to pick the right one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:56 PM
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I'm unmarried but have lots of married friends in the 30-40 age range. There is definitely an element of truth to this but to call it patriarchy in steroids is ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:45 PM
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Agree 100% Women can approach, indicate interest, etc. But if she pursues him and asks him out, etc. it's more likely that a man will take that to mean he can treat her as disposable than it is he will date her as normal. NB4, I said more likely than not. This is about risk mitigation. If you want to use the powerball strategy when dating, go right ahead. You might win the jackpot, but your more likely not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 03:25 PM
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So, you got AMOG’d once and decided to quit trying with girls? Lol, I'd have been an incel at about 14 at the school dance if I did that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 12:57 PM
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The core of the body count problem isn't really the number itself. It's the large cohort of men who didn't or don't get to sleep around feeling ways about their potential partners having done so. And these guys know for a fact that they never would have been an option so they feel whatever emotion you want to use. Setting aside whether they are right or wrong for feeling the way they do, men are just going to feel this way. There is no solution
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:58 PM
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Red Pill - Better for meeting women and initial interactions Blue Pill - Better once you're in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:45 PM
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Are you talking about how some young people tend to fawn over the toxic fun dangerous archetype and then they… grow up? Because no young man ever wanted the slutty party girl and then settled down with the quiet good girl right? The difference is that the party girl is not fucking average guys. The fuckboi Chad is fucking average women. I get that the way red pill types talk about it is off putting, but there is a lot of truth in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:18 PM
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It sounds like you are agreeing, you just don't like the way it's phrased??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:16 PM
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Good answer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:13 PM
2

It reminds me of the lock and key analogy and the rebuttal 'an electrical outlet that only accepts one kind of plug is less valuable than an outlet that accepts many kinds of plugs' Checkmate bitches!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 09:18 PM
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It's actually a really good rebuttal. I'd never thought of it. Red pill types like to talk about how men and women are different and the equivalent of a woman sleeping around and changing for their new partner is like a man spending a lot of money on previous girlfriends but being a scrooge with his current partner. You're using their logic and pointing out how it can applied elsewhere. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 08:58 PM
0

Yes, you checkmated their argument
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 08:43 PM
0

I mean if she feels this way no one will fault her for leaving. I think people would fault her for leaving
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 08:35 PM
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Do you not think she might also feel the same way? That you will have made moves on many women, and she is just the one who accepted. Checkmate
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 08:19 PM
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I think one aspect that is ignored when people bring this up is the environment. If a woman hooked up with a guy after meeting for an early dinner going to a concert and then after show bar hopping, that's not the same as not fucking you after a walk in the park and some ice cream. I think there is a difference between a young person at University and a thirty two year old with a salaried career too. If you meet on Tuesday night and have an important meeting at seven tomorrow morning, it's reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 08:15 PM
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I was going to comment something similar to this. I'd also add, don't fuck him until he's introduced you to people in his life as his girlfriend. Specifically women in his life. Introducing you to three of his dudebro friends at the bar doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:48 PM
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Only if "I'm single because women are all 304s who only want Chad" is also just narcissism
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:53 AM
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Fair enough, that's awesome it worked out for you bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:44 PM
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If I had a dollar for every time I heard, "I never thought I'd date a guy like you" I'd be a whole lot richer. So, to my point, you're not still dating any of them, correct? And to your point about uniqueness, I'm not saying that every person she ever dated needs to be a carbon copy of me. That would be asinine. Just that, if we had met in the past, would I have been an option or would she have dismissed me out of hand because of my demographic, whichever demographic that may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:30 PM
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What's the supposed problem? People have preferences, there's nothing wrong with that. If a woman only days guys with lots of tattoos, or Asian guys, or guys with red hair, she can do that and I have no ill will towards her. But I'm not going to play the guinea pig to some women looking to broaden her horizons. That's just a risk I'm not willing to take. NB4, I choose my words carefully. I said clear and consistent dating history. If a woman likes men of all shapes and sizes, I'm happy to get to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:22 PM
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There are a few objective risks like alimony What? Do you mean alimony is one of the few risks of divorce? You can't be serious. How about completely upending the entire life you've built, and probably your children's lives as well. Not everything in life is about money. And honestly, I think the whole alimony thing is the dumbest reason to avoid marrying a woman. Their "mitigation" goes well beyond anything necessary to cover off the objective risk and deep into the realm of the subjective and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:15 PM
2

The principles of risk mitigation apply to every aspect of our lives, regardless of cultural taboos and people's emotional responses. If a risk can be objectively identified, it can be mitigated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:45 PM
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Ha, fair point, I guess they do share the authoritarian label.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:42 PM
2

Assessing risk is weighing your fears against potential outcomes and seeing if it's worth the effort. No, it's not. You keep conflating an emotion, fear, with an objective risk analysis. My fear of jumping out of an airplane is unrelated to risk mitigation strategies for skydiving. If you go skydiving, you will have two parachutes, because there is a small risk that one will malfunction. That's not based on fear. It's based on objective data. You've already stated you use the word fear because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:23 PM
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The fact that this person thinks that there is some analogue between the Soviet Union, The PRC and modern day Russia just shows he has absolutely no clue about anything smdh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:15 PM
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The only thing that matters, at least to me, is who she racked up that count with. If I was in a lineup with every man a woman has slept with and I stick out like a sore thumb, then I'm going to nope right out of there. As long as a woman doesn't have a ridiculously high amount of different men she's slept with, the number doesn't really bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:10 PM
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And I chose the word fear because that negative connotation triggers "logical" people into an emotional response. No. Risk and fear are not synonyms. Assessing risk is not synonymous to assessing fear. Fear is an emotion that humans feel. Risk is an objective description of potential negative outcomes to an action.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:53 PM
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But you're still just describing risk mitigation. The only difference is that your tolerance is higher. You've already repeated multiple times that phrase "no risk no reward". But that's a false statement in relation to risk mitigation. Mitigating risk, by definition, is not 'no risk'. It's evaluating the risk compared to the potential benefit. You've also mentioned driving fast multiple times. What goes through your mind when you approach a curve in the road? If you're a normal human, your mind…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:50 PM
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What does the word justify mean to you? Maybe we're using different definitions, but when I see the phrase "justify fear with data", it's not a neutral phrase. The implication is clear that 'justify' means you're providing a reason where no good reason exists. But if you mean it in a more neutral way then I guess I understand. It still seems like an odd way to define risk mitigation though. Out of the, at least, dozens of different phrases you could have chosen, you chose that one. You didn't sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:40 PM
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Risk mitigation is the practice of justifying fear using data. I'm sorry but...what? Risk mitigation is mitigating risk. I don't understand this need to restate things with different words. Risk mitigation is just smart life strategy, not just for relationships. My apartment has shitty windows. In order to mitigate the risk of a high energy bill, I purchased window plastic and put them over my windows for the winter. Would you describe my actions as "justifying fear with data"? If I drive carefu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:32 PM
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Pretty good comparisons actually
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:15 AM
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Ah yes, I see that now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 02:43 AM
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Women are indeed incredibly complicated to understand I'm are this is not unpopular opinion In what world is this an unpopular opinion? This is like a normie opinion and has been for as long as I've been alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 02:29 AM
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Tbh I think it's kind of weird to only be attracted to one 'race' I don't hold it against anyone but it just seems odd to me. Especially as a man, if another man claims they are only attracted to one race it just...does not compute.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 05:37 PM
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When choosing a partner do you specifically look for someone that aligns with your values and behaviors or do you date people however they are and expect them to change to conform to your beliefs? That's pretty broad. There are some values and beliefs I think we should share. I'm kind of a minimalist and pretty frugal (although my mother would disagree on that one lol). It would be tough for me to make a life with someone who is constantly buying new junk and throwing money around frivolously. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:07 PM
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Ya, a few times in my life I've had to get slightly physical to push them away. Usually though, a gentle but firm "I don't swing that way" is enough. But I'm a six foot tall fit dude. I can definitely understand why women are reluctant to speak frankly with men who are hitting on them and it's super cringe the number of men out there who can't seem to understand why a woman will tell you she has a boyfriend when she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:25 PM
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Also have gay guys approach me and usually take it as a complement as well. That happened to me last weekend. He just made small talk at first then asked me where my partner was. I told him I only go for women he says cool, I turn my head for a second and then he's gone lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:53 PM
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I would advise women not to ask men out. That doesn't mean you can't approach a guy, let him know you're interested, etc. But I would still make him be the one to ask you out. While there are men that are cool with it, I think enough men would take that as a signal to treat you casually that it's not worth it. Risk mitigation basically. One of the longest relationships I was in started this way. I was at a friend's birthday minding my own business rolling a spliff and this Canadian girl came up …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:50 PM
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I can still see the comment that I replied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:15 PM
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It’s not like there is anything more to it than thursting movements Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:48 PM
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I'd be pretty limited in my choices if I did lol I'm 39 so you may get different answers from guys closer to 30. Tbh I do prefer dating when younger than me, just not that much younger
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:42 PM
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millions of girls are jumping out the gate the moment they turn 18 to get on onlyfans and other webcam/porn gigs. 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:57 PM
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Every person is different. Some readjust their standards, some get with a man below their standards, some get more cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:32 PM
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The term you're looking for is called Alpha Widow
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:28 PM
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According to some of "red pill" guys, as a member of the "666," you should have women throwing themselves at you. Ya those guys are ridiculous clowns.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:07 PM
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A solution, at least to the degree there is one, is live your life and do the best you can to succeed in your goals, romantic and financial. That's how I feel as well. Have you ever read any stoic philosophy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:35 PM
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Pretty sure that's a big reason for your troubles It's definitely a big part of it. Unfortunately I have an awesome job for this stage of my career. It's not all bad. I pay $500 a month for a spacious 2 bedroom apartment ffs. I can go out to a nice restaurant and eat like a king for $50. As much as men want to think that women want to date old guys, I'd say most women still want to date within 5 years of their age. Every time I see someone say that I just cringe. That applies to like, top tier g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:29 PM
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I think trying to isolate individual factors is futile tbh. I'm confident there are many factors that could be identified but I think a better starting place is to recognize that this is a phenomenon that necessarily manifests when humans reach a certain point of development. I would compare it to the similar, but still different, phenomenon of low birth rates in modern societies. No matter what governments and wider society does, there has been no appreciable impact on birth rates. From Japan t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:13 PM
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This year I've gone out with 9 women. I slept with 7 of them. Six of them broke it off with me. I broke it off with three of them. In order to go out with those 9 women I had to put in what, to me at least, was a tremendous amount of effort. Daily check-ins on multiple dating apps, going out random events, going to random bars more often than I would like to. If I calculated the amount of time I spent on finding women and convincing them to go out with me, it would probably be embarrassing. I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:02 PM
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What we are attracted to on evolutionary level doesn't change, but what behavior, lifestyle, visual representation this goes with changes with a change of culture and environment. That's fair, and I wasn't saying that there is no evolutionary basis to attraction why is being fat sometimes regarded as attractive and sometimes not, in human history? That's a fair question, however what was considered fat back then is not what is considered fat today. There is a vast chasm between nicely plump and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:03 PM
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But the point was, that the OP said the most attractive women disregard the most attractive men and strive for someone better and that they have so many choices to pick that they do behave as equals to those men. This is not true. The most attractive women are in fierce competition about the most attractive men. Ya fair enough, no disagreements there. Lets say there are double the amount of 10/10 women than there are 10/10 men. This would even further disprove OP. Only half of those women can ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:02 PM
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Because evolution happened even before people existed or life forms with any form of mental capactiy. How do you think they did sexual selection? How do you think they came to do the necessary stuff to procreate. How do you think they even started to care about being with other individuals of their species, as compared with others? You do not need to understand why you do something. Genes make you do things. And the things that lead to the most successful individuum/offspring will accumulate the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:43 PM
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One of my coworkers was in immense pain for weeks but just refused to go to the doctor. He finally went when he couldn't stand and low and behold he has a gall bladder infection that would have been easily treated two weeks ago but now he's out for two weeks smdh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:23 PM
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But it's also a little lowkey funny that you had to include that last part. Even when the OP specifically states that physical attraction isn't part of it, you still gotta throw in the, "... but no fatties" haha. Ya, I get that. It's just that whenever women here say what they like in a man the red pill brigade immediately chimes in with 'bUt ThaT's oNLy tHe CasE iF hE's HOt' so I figured I'd just address it right away lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:16 PM
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Intelligence, curiosity, optimism and interest in doing things other than sitting and watching a screen. If she likes Star Trek that would be icing on the cake. NB4, yes this is all predicated on a woman meeting my attractiveness threshold. A woman could have all those traits but if she's obese, I'm not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:10 PM
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why would a woman not want to pick the best genes from the pool of available men but rather leave it open to chance if she invests her life into mediocre genes. You're taking your knowledge and retroactively applying it to more primitive people. Why would a primitive woman have any concept of genetics? For someone born into a primitive tribe filled with superstition and a complete lack of any scientific mindset, it would make just as much sense, if not more sense, that it's better for your unbor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:53 PM
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In very small tribers, were everyone is related, sharing genes, kin-selection offers explanations why you would share resources with your relatives and care for their offspring to a degree. Yes, that is the thesis. But leaving it completely to chance if your genes got into the next generation, because nobody knows who the father is, seems highly unlikely in a genetic interest sense. But primitive people have no concept of what you just described. Primitive people don't understand lineage and gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:09 PM
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holding such a belief as "everyone fucks with everyone in the population" is SO DEEPLY DEEPLY anti-evolutionary. I'll read that link you sent but there are plenty of scientists who think it's very likely that in small tribes everyone fucked everyone. Have you ever read Sex at Dawn? But still, my point stand: baseline genetic attractiveness should be equal. If your argument is that distribution of genetic attractiveness is more or less even between men and women, I guess I might be able to accept…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:12 PM
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Our whole concept of attractiveness is BASED on what are signs of good genes. That's accurate, but that doesn't mean that hunter gatherers living in tribes of a few dozen were reproducing more often with men who have a good jaw line or women with nice tits. It's just as likely that everyone in the tribe was fucking everyone in the tribe. If anything, I think it's more plausible that sexual selection based on superficial attractiveness is more of a modern concept. As civilizations arose, attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:12 PM
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Anna Kendrick, Zhu Zhu and Rhianna
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:35 PM
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How would that come about evolutionary, if women have been selectors of good genes more than men? I have no clue, but I'm not sure I believe that women have selected for good looking genes over the lifetime of the human species. All I know is that there are more objectively good looking women out there than there are objectively good looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:26 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:07 PM
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Very attractive men and very attractive women are equal numbers. Disagree, strongly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:42 PM
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The few comments here that concede that the red pill made predictions all seem to conflate the Red Pill with traditionalism. I noticed that too. Is that what people think the red pill is? Is that actually what it is and I've been wrong this whole time?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:07 PM
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Not that I'm looking for making friends with my partners exes I mean, but if I find out their "men" used to be nothing like me, and specially if they were kinda the opposite... This is how I feel, although I don't know that I'd disqualify a woman for one guy but if she has a consistent history of preferring men unlike me I won't be pursuing a long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:35 AM
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I don't have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:33 PM
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What is a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:32 PM
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I realized then that I should ask directly about people’s sexuality/sexual history and to be more blunt about my values so it’s no surprise to them that it’s unacceptable to me. Lol, I'm just imagining being on a date with you and getting asked how many men I've been with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:32 PM
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If this were true, the change would happen to men too, It does happen to men, it's just much more rare. To be clear though, I'm not talking some pseudoscience of chemistry or whatever. It's just about expectations. I know men who peaked when they were younger and every single one of them is disappointed with their current options. 99% of my past hookups were shit in bed most women need a significant emotional connection to enjoy sex. Do you not see the obvious disconnect between these two statem…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:25 PM
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No feelings except that if a man thinks it will help then go for it. Certainly if the lifts are multiple inches then at some point people will notice what happens when he takes his shoes off. But an extra inch or so is probably fine. I feel for my short brothers out there. The world is a cold and unforgiving place. I'm glad I reached the six foot threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:09 PM
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That all may be true, although I don't think most women are awful in bed, but that's kind of my point. The bar is much lower for a woman because it's so much easier for a man to get off. And like I said in my op, for women to be good it's less about skill than about desire and enthusiasm. Men do actually need to learn some skills to be good in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:59 PM
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How so? If you're going to say that prostitutes wouldn't exist if women were better in bed...sorry but that's incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:54 PM
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You're speaking like a man and describing what's necessary for a woman to do well, and I don't really disagree. But women could not be clearer that most men suck in bed. That's because it takes more for a man to do well in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:07 PM
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Most men are god awful in bed. I think to a large degree a man needs experience to please a woman. Experience alone isn't enough though, as many women will attest to. He needs to want to do better and learn how to be better. And the experience doesn't necessarily need to come from multiple women. Women don't really need experience in the same way. It's much easier for a woman to be a good sex partner. It's more about enthusiasm than experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:38 PM
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You're conflating two different N count opinions that some men have. Any woman with an N count above 'X' is a walking red flag Any woman with a history of sleeping with men unlike me is a walking red flag. 1 is unreasonable but I think there is merit to 2
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:21 PM
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Categorizing it into only two categories is probably incorrect. I mean, what about a guy who is a virgin and wants a woman with similar values regarding sex? Where do they fit? With that being said, I think there is a lot of truth in your two categories. The red pill double standard hypocrites who have high N counts themselves while dismissing the fact it's the women (and men) who have a history of cheating that are problematic. These guys definitely exist, although I think numerically they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:32 PM
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I understand some people operate that way, I just think it's trashy behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:58 AM
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Multi dating is fine but once you sleep with someone, and you will continue sleeping with them, it's pretty trashy to continue seeing other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:52 AM
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Agreed It's like with pretty much everything in life, the more someone talks about how great or righteous they are the more suspect they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:17 PM
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Male feminists in general. To be clear, I'm not talking about men who are vaguely feminist because they think women should be treated equally. I mean men who identify as feminist. The ones who will tell you they are a feminist or an ally. Not all of them are bad news but enough of them are for it to be noteworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:06 PM
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I don't think you know what preference means. Straight men don't prefer women over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:39 PM
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It's not the same and if you actually think it is you're insane
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:37 PM
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A man getting turned on by dick is not the same as preferring one or multiple partners. Where do you come up with this stuff... Furthermore, I don't think there is any substantial evidence that suggests one vs multiple partners is innate as opposed to cultural. At least not even close to innate as a man liking dick and not tits and ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:31 PM
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What's the difference between saying "If everyone accepts poly lifestyles, everyone will be poly" and "If everyone accepts gay lifestyles, everyone will become gay"? One of them requires same sex attraction and the other does not. I can't believe I even have to point that out smh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:27 PM
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It's like saying gay men are kinda accepted now (in the western world) and they get to have a lot of sex, why aren't all the incels just turning gay to get what they want? That's not even comparable ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:05 PM
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Comparing her at whatever age she was at to other women at that age. So today, yes, comparing her to other 47 year old women. It's one thing to say she's not the hottest woman out there. That's fine. But she is objectively attractive and that's a fact. Claiming otherwise it's like when women here say Chris Hemsworth isn't very good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:22 PM
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Nah mate, those women are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:45 PM
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people on here have rated Angelina Jolie a 6. 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:19 PM
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Individual women have no reason to care about individual men. But at a macro level I think, to some degree, we all should care about everyone's struggles. I mean, you want men to care about women's struggles don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:35 PM
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Woah does this seriously happen? If thats so then things are extremely fucked up. I don't think it's a simple line from A to B, but yes it definitely happens
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:29 PM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:21 PM
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My boss is a shark. She's not my equal, she's my superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:27 AM
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Regardless of gender, I feel that the third party isn’t inherently guilty or to blame for being involved with someone in a relationship. If you know they are in a relationship and the other part doesn't know about the sex, ie not open, then the third party does bear some moral responsibility imho. It's not as much as the person in the relationship obviously. But to claim they have zero responsibility? My views on morality don't agree with yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:44 PM
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I've answered this a few times in other comments
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:25 PM
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Yes But I would say that taking the time, albeit a small amount of time, to delete a number requires justification. Doing nothing and leaving a number on your contacts requires no action. I think my years working in supply chains has infused me with a lean six sigma mindset lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:09 PM
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Knowing immediately who is texting you instead of scrolling through texts to figure it out
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:53 PM
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I get all of that. I just find it easier when they do reach back out to know immediately who she is instead of having to scroll through old text messages. It's like lean six sigma applied to dating I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:36 AM
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Maybe you're the unicorn and I'm the normal one 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:35 PM
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as a guy you're going to have plenty of temptations to do that. I'm a guy, and I don't have that temptation. If it works for you that's cool. I was genuinely surprised that people would delete the number of a woman they've been on multiple dates with, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:34 PM
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Delete her number Why would you delete a number? It's not like you have limited space in your contacts list. Do people do this? I never delete a women's phone number. I don't think I've ever deleted anyone's phone number tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:28 PM
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Ha, I figured by your answer you wouldn't have been in a rural area.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 08:23 PM
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I think seeing ugly people is really rare Where do you live lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 08:21 PM
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The thing is, I only have one life to live. So if I meet a woman and maybe there's a spark but her entire dating history is with men unlike me, why would I take that risk when I can just date someone else? I'm not interested in being some woman's guinea pig for the 'next phase of her life' or whatever. It's more of a risk mitigation strategy than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:04 PM
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Because it's really damn hard to meet women organically where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:29 PM
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there's a decent dude around to check her son Yes, children need men and women in their lives, no argument there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:48 PM
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If that man in the past was actually perfect do you think she would be dating now? No. I never said perfect, just better. And, men here also overestimate how much good sex women are having. Like…dude….there’s a really good chance that if you ask what your partner likes, and take some critiques you’ll be the best she ever had . There is truth in that statement Emotionally, because she’s dated she knows what she needs, so if she’s choosing you then bam, you have that. The whole package is what mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:48 PM
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I'm not saying it's a deal killer, I just think your comparison is inaccurate. It's not the same for men and women because those women have generally had the best while for men in general it's only that they wish they could have the best. And, in my experience as a man, the men who have to lower their standards after having had a taste of the best, are generally unhappy. Women here and irl always claim that even if a women has been with men way better than their current partner, she's not settli…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:09 PM
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Most men here suggest that a woman who dates and married someone that’s not her “ideal” type physically or financially is settling. some men here also say that men do not have the luxury of being picky when it comes to looks, so they “settle” for the best looking partner they can get. Yet for some reason, this is not seen as the same kind of settling that women do. The difference is that those women have more than likely slept with those better men, while those men have never slept with those be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:02 PM
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Thinking ambition leads to success but not everybody who's ambitiousleads to the same amount of success especially the type of success thatgirls think about. But that's not specific to women. Men and women do the same thing. Obviously men don't claim ambition is attractive for a romantic partner, but in every other aspect of life it influences what they think about other men. Also you can have a guy by definition who is ambitious like a computerprogrammer but because he does not conform to other…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:11 PM
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It is a glitch because it all assumes traits instead of actually looking at what is What are these assumed traits? I just feel like it's a different type of Cope If that's what you call recognizing the world for what it is, sure. I would argue that the cope is spending time fantasizing about a world that could, or should, be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:53 PM
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Keep in mind girls wake at the finish line to pick the winners and that's the glitch. You guys don't have to do the same work and the guys you pick for at the end of this Finish Line aren't necessarily the most hard-working the guys just because they have more stuff. I know a guy who is a rich kid and he should not be getting as much female attention as he should because his social skills are busted but he's a rich kid so I imagine he doesn't really have to do extra work because his riches are e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:32 PM
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I think this is like the weird glitch in a lot of women attraction because they don't really care how you became successful just so long that you are Why would that be a glitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:40 PM
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A consistent history of dating and sleeping with men unlike me. Not quite a red flag but as close as yellow can be without turning red
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:09 PM
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12 is a little young for that stuff, probably when they get a little older
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:45 PM
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A woman will tell her son to behave in a way that she wishes attracted her, to save herself from having to admit what really works on her and on most women, because that would make another attractive "asshole" that has leverage over women. There might be some truth to this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:39 PM
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Fresh and Fit say that stuff all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:55 PM
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I think half of us care about the feelings of strangers. I think women care about people’s feelings a little more than men do. It's about instilling a mindset. Of course strangers in your life will care about you to varying degrees. But setting the baseline that you shouldn't expect anyone else to care about your problems is important. Learning later in life that some people do care is like icing on the cake. Whereas expecting people to care and then learning later in life that many do not care …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:54 PM
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I've never watched any of Andrew Tate's content. But I can go on YouTube right now and find dozens of men putting out red pill content. You can claim it wasn't fair that Andrew Tate got cancelled but they must have had some pretext at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:22 PM
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Well there is something wrong with women that want to lie to their sons and feel protective I wouldn't call it 'lying'. It's important for young children to have feminine and masculine in their lives. For young boys, they don't need the feminine to be giving them harsh truths. They need the feminine in their lives to show them what good women are like. I wouldn't fault a father for not giving harsh dating truths to his daughter either. What is he going to do, tell her she's too pudgy and doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:23 PM
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Correct, many were raised soft when it comes to women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:10 PM
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resent women less . This is a big part of it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 12:56 PM
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Women love to coddle their sons and give harsh truths to their daughters. And there's nothing wrong with that. The boys just need men in their lives to give them the harsh truths
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 12:56 PM
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True, and you can tell people not to do heroin but some still might. That doesn't mean you don't try
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 12:54 PM
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That's a good point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 12:53 PM
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Just flip the genders and I feel that it's basically what women just know. I'm guessing you're not a man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 12:52 PM
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I misread you at first. That's why I think it's important they consistently get this message especially from men they can look up to. The more they hear it the more it will seem like the norm instead of what only one person has said. So, I agree to a degree, but they need to hear it more
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 11:13 PM
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I don't subscribe to many parts of their ideology. Things like 'women are the oldest teenager in the house' I find absolutely absurd. In my experience it's more common for women to act more mature and responsible in relationships than men. At best it's even. Monkey swinging is another one; men are just as likely to swing away if they level up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 11:08 PM
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Cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:56 PM
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I do not consider myself red pill, no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:43 PM
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Her and her friends wear dark robes while chanting around a bonfire. The woman in question sacrifices a white rabbit at the anointed hour and then toss it in the fire. The smoke that arises will provide guidance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:42 PM
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I think someone can get through high school without any real dating experience and still make it to adulthood and be successful. But it's going to be tough dating successfully if you're starting with zero experience at age 24 that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:38 PM
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Spread the word brother We are legion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:32 PM
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I never alleged that hate and contempt are the same I never said you did. I said we are using different definitions of the words 'hate' and 'contempt'. I follow the meaning found in Ms. Webster's handy guide, it's called a dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:31 PM
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He'll probably dismiss your advice but it's important that he knows that he can come to you for real talk when his finally ready to listen. Good on you for recognizing the role you need to play, young boys need men like you in their lives. Going off your post, I'm guessing your daughter is not with the father and that you are involved in her life and your grandson's. Well done sir
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:29 PM
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Again, different meanings. If you want to find the meaning of contempt that I use, please reference the Merriam Webster dictionary
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:56 PM
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Ha, denying your absurd classics is hardly defensive. We just have different definitions of the word hate. Mine can be found in Merriam Webster. Not sure about yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:50 PM
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Incorrect but try again if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:45 PM
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It doesn't show contempt at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:38 PM
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Nah, doesn't fit the bill at all. Nothing in that statement states, explicitly or implicitly, a hatred of women, which is what misogyny means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:32 PM
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That's the horrific misogynistic comment I made jfc Is the misogyny in the room with us now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:26 PM
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I did, please point it out to me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:24 PM
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The knee-jerk assessment which is not based on anything but contempt for women is the misongny. What was the knee jerk assessment?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:21 PM
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So boys are both coddled and somehow also no one gives a fuck about their feelings, especially women? JFC, a boy's mother and aunts certainly care about his feelings. Didn't know that has to be explicitly stated ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:10 PM
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pretty misogynistic and likely false. So you've decided it's misogynistic, incorrect but ok. But it's only likely false??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:08 PM
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Preach brotha!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:14 PM
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Being yourself is the best advice possible Disagree. "Be the best you you can be" is the best advice possible. It's not enough to just be yourself and the nuance of just be yourself will likely be lost on a young boy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:09 PM
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This may be slightly controversial but I think men don't cringe or take offense when women 'red pill' young girls and young women. But women tend to cringe when men 'red pill' young men and boys. I don't think it's nefarious or even intentional. But I do think it is a phenomenon that exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:06 PM
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the advice I give to younger men who will listen. Give it anyway, they may not listen now but they'll remember
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:04 PM
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That's not what a mother should tell her son. It's what fathers, uncles and cousins should be telling him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:02 PM
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The idea that only women will monkey swing or monkey branch or whatever Men are just as likely to trade up as women are
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:43 PM
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It's a tough call. American culture considers it highly taboo to comment on people's flaws or appearances. It's one thing for men in their lives who are older to tell a younger man or boy to get his act together, but even that is somewhat taboo. A young woman that he is pursuing however? I don't know. It could be the wake up call he needs or he could get really butt hurt and make a scene and try to fuck with you. If you didn't have mutual friends, it could be a generous thing to do if done corre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:02 PM
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Pretty sure you're a woman. I'm sorry, but you have no idea what it takes as a man to attract women. It's fine for you to tell this stuff to young men and boys in your life because, the way I see it, men and women are both equally human and it's important for young boys and girls to be exposed to both facets of humanity and how the different sexes tend to see the world. Just please please please don't discourage the men in his life from speaking to them from their perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:58 PM
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I don't know if you're man or woman but having a nuanced discussion like you want to have is all fine and good for experienced adults. But when a young boy asks a question like "why don't I have a girlfriend" they need to be told the truth bluntly. And the truth for men is that if you want to consistently attract women, you need to do all these things. What you're describing is the 'win the lottery' version of dating advice for men. Is it possible that a pudgy dude who wears gamer t-shirts and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:46 PM
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Want me to post it a 4th time? No thank you. I understand completely now. Your anecdotal experiences define everything and my anecdotal experiences are irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:30 PM
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i disagree with the “to attract women u need to be the best” That's not what I said and you conveniently left off the "you" at the end of "be the best" And anyway, the kind of 'advice' you would give is wow our society is filled with pudgy men in stupid t-shirts walking around wondering why they don't have a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:29 PM
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West Elm Caleb is an illustration of 80/20 and what a modern harem actually looks like. I don't see how it has anything to do with accepting rejection or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:13 PM
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This isn't at all "freak out" worthy. I disagree. Or rather, yes I agree it's not freak out worthy but ime most women would object to telling their sons that message. The issue would more be about the age of the nephew and whether or not he's really that interested in getting a "girlfriend" at that age. If he's asking, it's time to start telling. It's never too early once they start asking
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:49 PM
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This is one of the better answers I've seen. Truthful without the misogynistic butthurt Thank you Though I wouldn't say nobody\women don't give a fuck about your feelings. Young men need that kind of direct language beaten into them. But yes, when speaking to young boys I would certainly make note that women in their lives, like family, care about them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:46 PM
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But maybe you can ask me the same question in a 3rd different way. Maybe you could just answer the question Because given your posts that I've read you're sheltered and don't actually have majority experiences. Numerically speaking I am above average in quantifiable categories like height and income. I'm probably above average in subjective areas as well. But I'm not basing these opinions on just me. I have plenty of short working class friends, guys I've known my whole life. They consider a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:33 PM
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No, you're just an outlier. And that's based on what? Your anecdotal evidence that somehow trumps my anecdotal evidence because reasons? I mean average as in the average of all men. You're an outlier. That's OK. But you're in the cast minority and clearly don't interact with normal men. Again, why do your anecdotes trump mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:25 PM
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I wouldn't say it that way, but yes I would try to explain the nuance between being respectful and being confident and having boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:23 PM
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Hell no, that's the worst advice possible In a vacuum, it's neutral. But what young boys hear when you tell them that is "I don't need to change or improve anything about myself and women will be interested in me because I'm a special snowflake and mommy says I'm her handsome little boy" Men and boys need other men to beat the truth into them. Using 'beat' figuratively here obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:17 PM
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Off the top of my head Nobody gives a fuck about you and your feelings, especially women People judge you based on your appearance, especially women. Get a good haircut and dress well. To attract women you need to be the best you. That means exercise and weight training. You don't need to get jacked but you need to be fit. Attracting women requires being social. That's a learned skill that you don't learn sitting on your ass playing Fortnite. Get off your ass and get into social settings Women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:10 PM
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I'm sure dudes whose only hobbies are sitting on their ass and watching sportsball would have no problem with a woman who sits on her ass watching TikToks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:42 PM
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The average man, courting a woman, is not concerned with her income or career. I disagree Unless by average you mean a guy with no options who will date anyone that can tolerate him. Ya, he'll date anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:39 PM
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That what they were told their whole lives was a lie and that they wasted so many years doing the wrong things all because people in their lives lied to them. I have a nephew as well as other young boys of very close friends in my life who I would consider as nephew like. When they start coming of age, I am going to be as brutal as possible with them. They'll probably ignore my advice and take comfort in the bs that everyone gives them. But at some point something will happen that challenges tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:17 PM
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Ya, I just roll my eyes every time I see those posts or hear it irl. I heard it a lot more when I was younger, less so as I get older so I'm pretty sure the people who post it here don't have any real world experience lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:27 PM
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Even if you remove the children factor, I still wouldn't want to spend all day with someone who isn't educated and doesn't have any intellectual interests even if she was a total babe. Kids just makes it doubly important. And it's not like there aren't intelligent attractive women out there either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:20 PM
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Every time someone in here makes a claim that men don't care about income or education I just smdh I am a man with a good career and I sure as hell care about that stuff. This is potentially the mother of my children. You think I want some high school graduate who watches TikTok and Kardashians all day raising my children?! While it isn't an exact 1 to 1 correlation, educated people are usually smarter. For the people claiming that a woman who's slept with more men than they can count on one han…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:08 PM
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Have you searched for men on dating sites as a 40 year old woman? 40 year old men on those sites are generally deficient in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:12 PM
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What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:00 PM
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Would you ever consider moving closer to a city? All the time. The problem is that I have a really good job for where I'm at in my career.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:40 PM
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I see your point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:24 PM
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All I'm saying is that your original comment anyone who's not in a relationship and wants one, usually doesn't have realistic expectations in the first place. is overly broad. If someone moves to a new town as a single person, just because they aren't in a relationship within a week or even a month doesn't mean they have unrealistic expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:05 PM
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If you originally meant that anyone who wants a relationship but can't get one for a long period of time, then I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:00 PM
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if all men started working harder and looked like Navy seals the female standards would just go up. That's true to a degree, but not to the extent you claim. If all men looked like navy seals, a lot more men would be getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:47 PM
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I mean anyone who's not in a relationship and wants one, usually doesn't have realistic expectations in the first place. Well, that's not true
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:43 PM
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the initial topic was about about men "getting what they want", but it was never about having realistic expectations. They go hand in hand. You're a man. If what you want is wildly out of reach, should you even want it? Maybe we're quibbling over the meaning of 'want'. I mean, depending on how you define the word, I 'want' to sleep with Rhianna. But I don't 'want' her in the sense I'm actively trying to get her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:43 PM
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A) Good job, good income, physically fit, outgoing, dress well B) mostly bars and online My problem is that I currently live in a very rural area and am in my late thirties. Single women who aren't obese and don't have five kids three dads are very very rare
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:14 PM
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It also depends on what you consider overweight so maybe your definition is more generous than mine. Based on what you said, we definitely have a different definition of overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:13 AM
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People can be overweight and active Very rarely Just don't be a dick to overweight women (or men). I never would
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:54 AM
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I wouldn't say involved but I workout regularly and am pretty active. An overweight person and I would have too different of lifestyles to be compatible long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:51 PM
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I dated someone for a while who was...less attractive than I was used to. We broke up because she had a job offer far away but I could have stayed together, even married. Her other aspects made up for her looks. She wasn't ugly, and I guess I was attracted to her in the sense that I wanted to have sex with her. She was slim too. I could never be with an overweight person, that would never work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:07 PM
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When I commented it was a discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:53 PM
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To quote the great philosopher Jean Luc Picard "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:27 AM
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Someone larping as someone who understands women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:21 AM
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Where’s the gaslighting? Denying that attractive men and attractive women, in general, have different habits and histories Is you don’t want to be gaslit code for you don’t want reality pointed out to you because it challenges the cocoon you built that you don’t have to try because women are picky bitches anyhow? No, go argue with an incel because I didn't say anything you're accusing me of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:42 PM
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I'm not blaming anyone for anything. All I'm doing is pointing out a societal phenomenon, which apparently really triggers a lot of people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:38 PM
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Yes. I have and I will continue to do so. I'm not dating them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:05 AM
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Men aren't traditional anymore. They don't make enough to support a family. They can't fight. They are addicted to porn and video games. Most are overweight. Most don't know how to use a weapon. Most can't do basic home improvement without calling a plumber or electrician etc. Most can't even build a home. The problem is that many young men have been gaslit to believe that playing fortnight Fortnite all day and wearing a dirty T-shirt is enough to get a woman. Men need to have the truth beaten i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:47 AM
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I don't either and I encourage every young man I interact with to recognize this. It's the gaslighting that irks me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:43 AM
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Water is wet, thank you for telling us
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:29 AM
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Average women date average men, above average women date above average men, because they can. Yes, but above average men are running through below average women. Above average women are not running through average men. This isn't a difficult concept to understand if you've lived a normal life. A top tier man is sleeping with loads of women, some average some not. A top tier woman is only sleeping with top tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:27 AM
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They wouldn't be attracted to short guys unless he's extremely good looking in other respects. Correct, height is one aspect of male attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:18 AM
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Definitely, many times, although I should add that post wall is both subjective and also, at least in the way I will answer the question, a frame of mind. My mother is definitely 'post wall' but I'm not describing her. So are other women in my life. What I'm describing is a woman who is post wall and unhappy about it and single A deep nostalgia for the past is a big part of it. Everything they talk about is about the past. Things she did when she was younger, places she went when she was younger…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:40 PM
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Thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:41 PM
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The only one's I've known did loads of drugs and if you looked at a line up of the women they've slept with it would be...unimpressive to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:08 PM
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Ya, it's amazing that this even has to be debated
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:02 PM
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How does the song go? If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, you'd better make an ugly woman your wife
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:36 PM
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There was another poster who said only absolute numbers mattered to him regardless of context. Ya that just makes no sense to me. If she's only been with three guys, but they were all pro athletes there is no way an average guy can stack up to that. But a woman who has been with ten guys but they were all more or less in your ball park, is that really a worse bet? Doesn't seem so to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:39 PM
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We all have to live in society
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:17 PM
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If you realize this, why not do something about it? The relative number only matters if you let it matter. As a man, do you want to let ego and envy run your life and potentially limit your options? Part of this is how other men will talk about him. Whether it's wrong or right, men will, to varying degrees, judge other men based on their partner. If their partner is a well known ho, people are going to laugh at him and he'll lose some respect from his peers. This is especially a thing if the man…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:28 PM
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Disagree. Excluding women with numbers far outside the mean, the N count itself is pretty meaningless imho. Unless of course you are religious or genuinely feel sex should be with your life partner only. In that case the number does matter. For me at least, what's most important is who she racked up those numbers with. As long as I would have been an option, I'm fine with it. Where I draw the line is if a woman has a consistent preference for men unlike me. I've had this discussion many times wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:21 PM
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OP claiming men want thrones because muh society muh power. Get outta here with that. It's the idea that two women are so into you that they both have sex with you at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:16 AM
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I haven't been here since the beginning but at least five years. There are a lot more blue and purple pill people here now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:04 AM
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An electrical outlet that can accept many plugs is a master outlet but an outlet that only accepts one kind of plug is a shitty outlet. A pencil sharpener can sharpen pencils indefinitely but a pencil can only be sharpened once. In general, analogies are for dumb people that can't understand a concept on its own but need to compare it something simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:26 PM
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Ok cool, thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:30 PM
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Interesting. Do you mind if I ask how you met your husband, why you gave him a chance and what made you realize your 'type' wasn't actually your 'type'?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:33 PM
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Do you mind if I ask what that 'type' was? Because if we're defining type as maturity, for example, I don't really consider that a type. The women I got with at university were not as mature as the women I get with now. But they are the same women basically. Obviously not literally the same but I would have considered them an option when they were young and immature as well as now that they are more mature, if that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:29 PM
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I'm a happily married woman. My husband is not my "type" nor did I ever think I'd be with someone like him, but we're ridiculously great for each other, work well as a team, and always are each other's biggest supporter and best friend. This is one thing I can't wrap my head around. I'm not the kind of person who has a super specific type. If you were able to see either all the women I've slept with and all the women I've dated the only commonality would be most were at least moderately attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:22 PM
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I think a large motivation behind men pursuing sex is the gratification of have sex with women who actually want to have sex with them. This
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:47 AM
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Then you're delusional...or lying
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:20 PM
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That's why 30 years from now most western male will actively seekpartners from the east where there is still traditional society. Tell me you've never been to the east without telling me you've never been to the east
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:18 PM
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That's what I would say too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:06 AM
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Are we saying the same thing or completely different things? I can't tell Telling a young man that all bodies are beautiful is not going to get him off his fat ass and into the gym. Telling him to just be himself and he'll find that special girl someday doesn't work. Maybe that kind of stuff works with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:04 AM
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I do not see this same support for men, and it bugs me. That's because men don't want what you call 'support'. Men need to give their brothers support through hard truths and assistance in improving. We don't need more men lying to them that 'all bodies are beautiful'. It's both counter productive and counter to male natural. Unless of course I misunderstood what you mean by support, in which case please disregard my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 01:52 AM
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She can choose whether to include or exclude him as a parent. I'm what world is this true?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:08 PM
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About 32 I think that was less about age though and more the fact that I was doing Kung Fu hardcore and lived amongst promiscuous expats. I was fit af and most women were dtf
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:17 PM
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Did you ask her if she thought you were neurodivergent? No...that's something a neurodivergent person would ask. I'm just assuming she didn't because we had a good time and are meeting at the Oktoberfest at the local brewery today
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:46 PM
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It's not judgey, it's just awareness of society and how social circles operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:33 PM
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Upper Middle Class
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:47 PM
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??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:44 PM
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I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:17 PM
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It was Thursday, we weren't that intoxicated
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:15 PM
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I recognize that it's taboo and that people don't like it. I don't disagree that a person shouldn't verbalize this stuff to a potential partner. Or probably anyone for that matter. I mean, I'm the one saying it shouldn't be taboo but if a woman I was dating said something like "the effort I'd have to put in to find a new partner would likely only provide a partner that is marginally better or worse than you so I'm content staying with you" would not be very romantic. But that doesn't change the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:14 PM
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If someone genuinely believes this stuff, they will not be capable of masking to hide their other social abnormalities. Lol, wrong because none of my friends seem to notice. I was at the bar last night and the woman I was talking with didn't think I was neurodivergent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:03 PM
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I don't disagree that talking like this irl is a social taboo. My point is that it shouldn't be. Either they have a neurological problem or disorder of some kind. That's...overly harsh. But further evidence that while one should still use the best tools available for understanding the world, one still must abide by societal conventions. In layman's terms, understand the sexual marketplace but never talk about the sexual marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:54 PM
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Just as some people enjoy candy corn and some people don't. There is no reason that someone would have to complicate what is and should be basic knowledge into a theory that relates to capitalism The mistake you're making is confusing economics with capitalism. Economics applies regardless of whether a society is capitalist, communist, feudalist or whatever other ist. Economics is the study of scarcity. Anything that people want that has limited supply can be analyzed with economics. Whether it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:41 PM
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Definitely. I would go further and say most people cringe at it. Which is ridiculous imho. Every other aspect of life can be analyzed in economic terms. Why is this one area arbitrarily fenced off and discussion considered taboo??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:35 PM
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Go to bar...Profit!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:26 PM
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Any man that identifies himself as an incel is not going to have much luck at a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:25 PM
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I think it was inevitable that dating was going to be political. You're probably right, everything is political. I still think it's unfortunate though. Teaching young men and boys the reality of the world shouldn't be political. Maybe you disagree with me on the prior point. I don't necessarily disagree. I just think it's shitty that our society has chosen to divide itself in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:18 PM
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In my experience a promiscuous past is a problem when you're dating within social circles in which one's promiscuous past is known. I've seen it play out numerous times. Then you'll see a post on Facebook years later that she's engaged to some guy from another state none of us have ever met. And he's almost always...less desirable than the guys she used to smash
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:09 PM
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You seem to be arguing that it comes with a realized benefit in terms of sleeping around a ton. This is what I am disputing. There's no evidence that this potential benefit is being realized in this way It's realized if the man wants it. If he doesn't want to sleep around he doesn't have to. this (mega artist celebrity) is such a small fraction of men that there is no way there are sleeping around with any significant portion of the female population. I never made that claim. It's just one examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:18 PM
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I feel like you think I'm saying something like 'you can only get women if your face is perfect' or something. But I'm not saying that at all. I feel like it's actually a positive message for young men and boys in more ways than it's not. Teaching them that women are people too and that being an attractive guy is attainable if you work hard is a good thing. Lying to them that being top 20% in attractiveness doesn't come with a benefit with women is ridiculous. And the key is that it's not linear…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:52 PM
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There is a difference between looking at things in the aggregate and looking at things at the individual level. Just because the average number of partners increases exponentially as a man reaches a certain point on the attractiveness scale, does not mean that every single man who reaches that threshold is a man slut. But the existence of outliers doesn't change the aggregate. Plenty of the men who have lots of sex are not the stereotypical image of wealth, dominance, or masculinity. To quote Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:12 PM
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I agree that some women intentionally gaslight in dating. It's not only women and it's not only in the context of dating. It's a taboo area of discussion that pervades our entire society. I think best revenge here is being the best man you can be; I wouldn't call it revenge but otherwise I agree 100%. Join an MRA group, have kids, push separation between conservative vs liberal/left wing areas of the country. It's unfortunate that this topic is becoming more and more political. I see it as somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:32 PM
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This is a bad analogy because the reason people are concerned about billionaires is because You're proving my point and it's a great analogy. A social phenomenon exists regardless of its moral implications. This constant need to read into hidden motives instead of just responding to a statement as accurate or inaccurate is mind boggling to me. Do the wealthiest have disproportionate access to wealth? Are wealthy people with disproportionate access to wealth a problem? What is the solution to wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:25 PM
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This is one thing that really boggles my mind. I'm a college graduate UMC guy. I'll be at a Halloween party in a few weeks with a few dozen people I went to university with, we're all a big group of friends. If I brought a woman with me who was a server with a high school education...it would be scandalous lol. Regardless of how hot she was. It would be a negative for my social life. And that's just in public. Nothing against servers, but unless she's one or of a million, we likely have totally …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:13 PM
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Mega updoots for this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:07 PM
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Not sure if this should go under the automod or not. I agree with your title, but not your reasoning or criteria. Holding it against a woman for having slept with someone who was disrespectful isn't my standard. Women like that are like really hard to find. And anyway, how could she really know in advance? To me the only thing that matters is if there is a big difference between me and the type of guys she consistently gets with. As long as I'd have had a chance with her in the past, her past is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:00 PM
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The rhetoric is more akin to 'whats the big deal, lol?'. I disagree. The rhetoric, at best, conflates it to a very generic "well ya, attractive people get more attention, water is wet" why should they care about incels? It's not about caring and it's not about incels. The fact that you bring up incels when all I said is top men get disproportionate sexual access sort of proves my point; any acknowledgement of this social fact is met with varying degrees of scorn, denial and gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 07:50 PM
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You’re already hyper-focused on a small minority of men Is it hyper focusing to point out that billionaires have disproportionate wealth because their numbers are numerically small? It's just pointing out a societal phenomenon. What to do about it, if anything, is a separate question. Even if we grant that these are undisputed “facts” about our world, when someone with a clear agenda is deploying these facts in support of their agenda, it is important to contextualize the facts and to push back …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:49 PM
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Yes! Isn't it crazy that some people deny it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:50 PM
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Lots of different women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:46 PM
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I don't know why you have to reword what I'm saying. Men who are in the top 10-20% of attractiveness receive a disproportionate amount of sexual access with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:45 PM
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I dont get what phenomenon you’re saying though That men who are in the top 10-20% of attractiveness receive a disproportionate amount of sexual access with women. attractive men are having a lot of sex Amount of sex is not the issue, it's having sex and having sex with multiple people. Someone in a relationship has sex more than someone only hooking up. But the person hooking up is having sex with more people. I feel I need to reiterate, I am not ascribing a moral judgement on any of this. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:27 PM
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Yes, that's true, if by "plenty" you mean a numerically large number, but not a proportionally large number. Vegans exist as well. But if we are discussing the dietary preferences of the population of North America in aggregate, vegans are a rounding error. This is what I'm talking about when I say gaslighting. Focusing on outliers when analyzing the sexual preferences of a population in the aggregate is essentially irrelevant. Men in the top 10-20% of attractiveness receive disproportionate att…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:22 PM
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Not to mention that a ton of young, celibate people are that way by choice. That's probably true for women but definitely not for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 04:56 PM
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Gaslighting about what? That the top 10-20% of men get disproportionate access and interest from women. Usually the best you'll ever get from women is something like "Well ya, attractive people get more attention" But that is still gaslighting. Top women aren't running through dozens or hundreds of men. Dua Lipa is not hooking up with loads of random men while she tours. Members of the collegiate volleyball team are not going through different men every weekend. Their male counterparts are thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 04:54 PM
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This is one of those things that if women would just stop gaslighting it would go a long way in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:42 PM
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exercises 1-2 days per week has visible abs ROFL
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:26 PM
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Less so how many and more so who with
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:17 AM
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38 I mostly date women in their thirties. I'd be open to dating a much younger woman but she'd have to be pretty mature for her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:37 AM
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A male that a significant amount of women want to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:34 PM
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My opinion exactly. I've never tried it and have no desire to. If a long term partner really wanted it, then we can do it, but I won't be the one pushing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:12 PM
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"I have an amazing career, make almost 6 figures, have lots of friends and family, fit and physically active, many hobbies and talented, but I can't get a single date" Lol, if I wanted to be a doomer I could plausibly make the case that you're talking about me. Hell I'm six figures+ (albeit just barely) The reality is I'm limited because I'm stuck in a very sparse rural area, a far cry from where I spent most of my adult life. I have a great job though so...life is compromises. I get dates, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:45 PM
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Didn't even have a tldr
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:36 AM
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In the online space it's considered completely normal to do what you described. Irl, it's not quite so simple
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:04 PM
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Aponte says the men outraged by the Tinder trick exemplified "how men are so quick to just judge [women] and put a label on us just because we didn't give them what they wanted ... it's just a bruise to their ego," she said. If she actually thinks this...her brain is just broken
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:33 PM
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Feminism hasn’t affected places like parts of Latin America and North Eastern Europe to the same extent. It definitely hasn’t affected the Muslim world Like I said, modern and developed The problem is that Western feminists unfortunately believe in cultural imperialism and have no respect for religion or culture. You just have an ax to grind. That's fine, but don't pretend that you have any actual basis for your opinions. Look up feminism in Korea and tell me that only Western feminists are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:33 PM
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Feminism and the Andrew Tates are successfully dividing men and women Incorrect Those are the symptoms of a wider phenomenon, not the cause in and of themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:20 PM
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This is mainly the Western world though. I don't know where people get this idea, unless you somehow define 'west' as 'modern and developed' Look at birth rates in east Asia. Look at dating and marriage stats in east Asia. Ffs, it doesn't take much effort to see that the phenomenon we're discussing is consistent everywhere once a society reaches a certain point of development.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:19 PM
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Depends For the most part all of my female friends are attractive so that's not the issue. But a lot of them are tied into broader friend groups. So, the only thing that would hold me back is how it would impact that group dynamic. If no bad impact, let's smash girl
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:57 PM
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Wait are you admitting AF/BB is mostly about other men than your partner? Bless you! It's not really a comment on AF/BB My third comment is in that ballpark though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:19 PM
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A lot of what you've said is accurate. However there are a few other bullet points that you should add Generally speaking, other men will judge a man who gets into a relationship with a promiscuous woman. This judgement is exponentially more pronounced if the current man is very different from the men she used to sleep with. Similarly, if a woman has a clear history of previously sleeping with a certain type of men and the current partner is not like them. Women feel this way too a lot of times,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:09 PM
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Women totally can have beards bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:54 PM
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A more apt comparison would be a vegetarian who meets another vegetarian. Then as they date, they find out the other has flip flopped from vegetarian to omnivore multiple times over their life. Now they're concerned that at some point they will want to eat meat again and they don't want to date someone who eats meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:04 AM
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Funding what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:44 PM
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Sorry, that's not what I meant. I mean that so much of what red pill is, again using the most generous interpretation, is things that should be obvious. Like, for example, an often used quote from Sun Tzu.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:18 AM
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I feel like red pill, looking at it in the most favorable light, is one of those things that is so true it shouldn't need saying. Like Sun Tzu "know yourself, know your opponent and you'll never be defeated". It's kind of obvious, but sometimes obvious things need to be pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:06 AM
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we just don’t physically fit very well, if that makes sense It does not
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:16 AM
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Ya I agree completely
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:41 PM
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if anything some of them are pretty chill and they are willing to lift other bros up, help other bros get game. This has been my experience tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:35 PM
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True statement
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:32 PM
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Since Atlas left it's been marginally worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:49 PM
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What if he wants just a little casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:25 PM
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I can see how a woman who always gets pigeonholed as "good for sex only" can struggle with dating. Can you see the other side of that coin? How a man can struggle with only being 'husband material'?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:23 PM
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Read stoic philosophy, read Taoist philosophy, learn what food is, and isn't, and how to make meals with food, exercise and lift weights, involve yourself in outdoor group activities, make a five year and ten year goal and plan of action to achieve, don't make life decisions because of someone you're dating and avoid casual encounters, you can date someone without being married ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:47 PM
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You're not wrong. It's just difficult for a lot of men to square that circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:23 PM
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So ‘taking dick’ is bad because it’s not you she’s taking it from even though hypothetically you haven’t met yet. When the man knows for a fact she wouldn't have given him the time of day, it's a tough pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:22 PM
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The most generous explanation is that, even if it is an uncomfortable truth, knowing the truth is better than not knowing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:22 PM
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There are two types of men who do this; one is the angry incel who can't get laid and hates the world. He wants a virgin who will give him porn star sex on the first date. The second is the average guy who took a woman on five dates before she kissed him and then waited months before they had sex. Then two years later he found out she hooked up with multiple hockey players within hours of knowing their first name. The dynamic is different between both of these types of men. The incel has loads o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 07:51 AM
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This is a totally fictional conversation you made up, but I'll move past that What do you mean? It's totally normal for purple pill debate redditors to have conversations with real wymynz who totally admit they have knock out threesomes with Chad but won't sleep with their long-term boyfriends until they're married. That makes perfect sense and definitely actually happened
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:25 PM
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Doubtful, most likely they are stuck in their routines that they've developed over years and years. Eating real food and exercising a few times a week is not some unattainable goal. It's very simple actually. And most people find that their stress goes down when they exercise and eat real food. But I do recognize it is easier to wallow in self pity than to look internally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:04 PM
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I don't accept that. No one's job is so stressful that it prevents them from eating healthy food and exercising a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:57 PM
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Most men can, they're just too lazy to put down the taco bell and the Xbox controller
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:56 PM
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I wouldn't quite characterize it as either or. Having a good career is very beneficial to life and getting women. It's the stem lords who think that's the only thing they need who fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:14 PM
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The thing you have to understand, or at least how I understand it, is that the situations are usually not the same. For example, if she occasionally went to house parties at university and hooked up with a few dudes after meeting them that night, that's not the same situation as meeting on Hinge when you're 31 and going out for a drink and art museum. It's a different environment. So, I'm not disagreeing that, if the situations are the same and you're treated differently, then she doesn't see yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:53 PM
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I've always thought it was pure projection from women. They generally discuss their partners in detail with their friends so they assume men do as well. Add to that men in general talking more crudely about things and you get the so called 'locker room talk'
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 06:16 PM
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I'm probably better looking than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:36 PM
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Very interesting post! I'm not sure that the Giffen paradox applies, partially because, iirc, Giffen goods are still a theory and haven't been proven consistently to be an actual phenomenon. Additionally, the usual examples used for Giffen goods, food and fuel, are not exactly analogous to a relationship. With that being said, we need more of this type of analysis! Economics applies to everything, but it's taboo in our society to use these tools, the same tools we use to examine every other aspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:33 PM
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imagine That's the key word.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:42 PM
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The only good answers you're going to get are from men who have had a 'glow up'. Other than them, no one can understand a life different than the one they have. If you've always been short and ugly, you can only imagine what it's like to be tall and good looking. So the guys here who are invisible won't be able to articulate their experience to you in a way that you'll really be able to internalize. I've been told that the book written by that woman who pretended to be a man is about as close as…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:38 PM
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First, you have to define what 'better for society' means. Personally, I think any effort to change modern dating dynamics is doomed to failure. It's analogous to a finger in the cracks of a dam. What we're living in is just the inevitable result of a modern society. There are a lot of positives, a lot of them. The lack of robust communities and interpersonal relationships is probably a negative. But we can't have one without the other. Think about that the next time you have a tooth ache and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:53 PM
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I think they'd probably do it like Facebook does
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:09 PM
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Unrelated to op but I've often wondered when LinkedIn will enter the dating game
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:42 PM
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I currently live in a rural area and it is bleak. If you define options as 'a woman who wants to fuck me' I have a lot of options. If you define options as 'a desirable woman who wants to fuck me'...well, they almost don't exist out here. At my age, late 30s, all the decent women are taken. The rest are obese and/or have five kids with the different dads. It really sucks because I have a great job with a great salary in a very low col area. Other than the lack of dating options, I don't mind the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 01:01 PM
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Ahhh yes, the 'gays can get married, just not to someone of the same sex' argument
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:10 PM
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1-2. Unlike many others on this sub, N count is not something I worry about, unless it's crazy high. What matters to me is who she racked up her numbers with. If the guys she racked up those numbers with consistently have a trait that I don't have, I consider that to be a flag of whatever shade of yellow that is closest to red. Not a deal killer, but almost a deal killer. Never have I asked but it's not hard to tell if you don't come off as caring about it. Just listen intently and fill in the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:37 PM
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https://youtu.be/gJKYpt6UpMw
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:28 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:35 AM
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I don’t want to gaslight anyone because I really do think some disabledpeople have disadvantages but it’s different and better to have thegovernment help poor people than “redistribute sex” which could be anissue for enthusiastic consent. Ok, but that's kind of my point, which is that there is a big difference between the method used to analyze human interaction in the aggregate and proposing a solution. Analyzing human sexual interactions in this manner is considered somewhat taboo purely becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:17 PM
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What ought we to do about that huge unfairness in the midst of our society?” Other than spread awareness and attempt to mentor young men about the reality of the world, there's not much I can do. We certainly shouldn't legislate any solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:15 AM
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Because it’s not an apt comparison. It’s “off limits” to enforce equal access to women because women are people and not resources to be distributed. But that's my point, maybe I didn't phrase it correctly. It's not wrong because it's wrong. It's wrong because the ostensible 'solution' is wrong. I agree that the proposed solution is wrong. But that doesn't mean that viewing and analyzing it the same way we view and analyze every other type of human interaction is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:22 PM
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I'll show you mine when you show me yours
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:12 PM
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Which part? The part where I agreed with your math that claims people are delaying gratification? You didn't show your math there either... The part where I pointed out that many aren't getting married or having babies in their thirties? The part where I claim experiences impact who we become?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:53 PM
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Got it I think the point people would make is that our experiences in our twenties lead to decisions in our thirties. There is a non trivial amount of young men who are effectively shut out of dating in their twenties and this leads to many of them forsaking any relationships going forward. Whether they are right or wrong is kind of irrelevant. The fact is, it's happening. I also think this is a good illustration of the economic distinction between the macro and the micro. When you talk to any i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:47 PM
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Unfortunately, yes I think this will be a consistent phenomenon we see as the implications of a modern society take hold. I don't know if it's good or bad in the aggregate. I just think it ~is~. I'm open to ideas, but I don't think there is a solution. Although I have sympathies to the argument that compares basically everything else in society to sex and relationships, it doesn't come with a solution. It's only descriptive. A lot of people bristle at the comparison, but it is accurate to say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:17 PM
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You guys just don’t understand delay of gratification and marriage/babies Please explain
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:05 PM
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You replied to the wrong person. My response was, at least I thought, obviously sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:49 PM
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I think its part of western culture Yes...this is only in white people countries...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:42 PM
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that’s why it usually 23 to 24 weeks in most places in the world. Citation please
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:50 PM
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Correct And healthcare is subject to regulation by the elected representatives of the people. I can't even buy a pill that is legally sold in Germany, but somehow I have no right to privacy in that regard. I can't buy a bag of weed from my buddy who grows it on his own property. Where is my right to privacy there?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:44 PM
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Fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:42 PM
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What's the difference between an ex who did that, and some random woman you met who did the same thing but to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:34 PM
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I started working at a new company about a year ago and the men there are nothing special. Then we have the Christmas party and a lot of these guys had wives that were at least a few points above them. It was kind of shocking actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:48 AM
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this is part of western societies general arc away from families and towards single adults being a cultural focus. Have to disagree here. Developed societies in East Asia are at least on par if not further along than the west. I think a better analysis would be that this is a result of modernization, not any one culture from any one place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:33 AM
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having sex once is all it takes to lose virginity. 80/20 rule means that 80% of the sex is distributed to 20% of men, which it is. Nah mate, that's not possible, there is no way that 80% of all sex is had by 20% of men. Now, if you were to say that 20% of men have had at least one sexual encounter with 80% of women I'd probably agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:49 AM
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Career But to a large degree, any woman in my dating pool who is a barista either has made some pretty poor life choices or is much younger than me. In either scenario, they'd have to be an exceptional person in every other regard for me to seriously date them. So, I both would not seriously date either, nor bring them around my friends. Edit to add: the last sentence was in reference to the much younger barista and my age barista A social worker...I'm not sure, I doubt they make as much as a ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:28 AM
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No men do not care about a woman’s career at any point of their life. I do and have for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:52 PM
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I'm a single dating man in his late thirties. My circles are generally middle to upper middle class. I don't care how hot she is, I'm not bringing a barista around my friends and introducing her as my girlfriend... I'd be embarrassed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:51 PM
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This happens to people all the time, not just women. It's probably numerically more common in women, but it happens to men as well. They don't show it in the movie, but you don't think Uncle Rico doesn't think about his hot high school girlfriend all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:10 PM
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That's basically my opinion as well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:19 AM
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Very well said, thanks for your input
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:40 PM
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And many men did the same thing My point is that I'm skeptical that what they are attracted to actually changed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:32 PM
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When a restaurant owner says "I don't get it. I make amazing food at great prices, but I still can't attract any customers", I don't interpret them as wanting to force people to eat at their restaurant. Rather I interpret it as someone who's confused why there's such a large gap between (a) what they believe are reasonable expectations based on what they believe are accurate assessments of themselves, and (b) the reality. This is a perfect analogy because I grew up working in restaurants and 8/1…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:22 PM
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Sex is best with fit thin girls who are slightly shorter than me, and with some girls my slightly curved dick just really hits the spot so thats a bonus. Are you me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:13 PM
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can you understand that others do? That may help I understand that they say it changes and behavior sometimes follows but I'm still skeptical it's true. I think it's more likely than not that what they are attracted to hasn't changed but what they want from life takes more precedence and therefore they peel away the different layers of what they're attracted to until they find someone the happy medium of what they are attracted to and the life they want. However, other commenters have given me s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:06 PM
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In some ways that's a major shift in life philosophy that only really happened because I wandered off and became very good friends with non-catholic and did some. Major self reflection. And changing my own beliefs meant I'd be looking for someone who matched my current beliefs. That's an interesting analogy because I've always been very politically active and my views have changed over time. However, I consider that to be based on logic and reason. What gets me horny is not based on logic and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:57 PM
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You make it sound weird but it's not like I have some super specific fetish. Literally; intelligent and fit/healthy. If you had a lineup of every woman I've ever been with, the only common physical characteristic would be only like 3 heavy women in the whole lineup. All the rest would be healthy. No other physical characteristic would stand out. Not hair color, height, race, breast size, nothing. If you talked to them however, you'd find they are all (except a few mistakes, I'll admit it) very i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:53 PM
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Based on the other comments, and my own personal experience, this is not gender based at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:46 PM
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Notice she could be talking about the same man in different stages in his life. If that's the case then we aren't talking about the same kind of preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:44 PM
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Ok, but in the context of this conversation, about who you like to fuck, making the statement 'all bodies are beautiful', when there is clearly a body type that you think is more beautiful, is pretty confusing, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:44 PM
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But did you know exactly who you were going to become? I'll put it like this; if you went to 20 year old me and asked where I would be in twenty years, you'd probably get a different answer to the exact path my life took, for the most part. But if you instead explained the path my life took, twenty years old me wouldn't be surprised or anything. I'm pretty sure he'd be impressed actually. At 16 i thought the artist type was cool. At 21 they were kinda annoying and we're going no where a lot of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:42 PM
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How old are you? 37 Tbh I feel the opposite, I wouldn't want to date someone that never changed. Deconstructing from religion isn't something people usually do multiple times so I don't get the "change again" worry for that example. Even as a kid I knew I couldn't believe in a god, so even that hasn't changed lol Whether it worries you or not, do you get that people's preferences can change for a myriad of reasons? That's literally my op. No, I don't get it, although other commenters have given …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:38 PM
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Nah, you're just being purposefully obstinate. I've already admitted that preference was probably not the correct term, but it's already out there and many others have replied in his faith so I'm not going to just change the terms already used in multiple replies If a preference is the same as The flavor of ice cream you like at any given moment, that's not what I'm talking about. If a man says he prefers women with brown hair, but only 30% of women he's been with have had brown hair, that's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:35 PM
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Thanks for your perspective!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:28 PM
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Just trying to keep it light-hearted. If you think all bodies are beautiful, do you actually have a preference? All bodies are beautiful could mean anything, ranging from 'It's incredible how we've developed and evolved as a species, all bodies are beautiful' to 'my drink genuinely gets hard for any human that identifies as woman'. So, could you be a little more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:25 PM
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Like I imagine when you're young and a teenager you're a very different person to who you are in later life. People say this but I'm skeptical. Have I grown and married since I was at University? Of course, but I'm still the same person. I'm not a butterfly. For example i went through the partying phase at university. And I meant my husband at a party. And my ex-boyfriend were pretty party people people too. Not like party every weekend, but we partied at least once a month. Ok, going to the bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:21 PM
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A person who wants to settle down, have a steady life and start a family young isn't likely to be looking for the same personality type as someone who wants to travel spontaneously and be child free. All other things being equal, those two women would be equally attractive to me. Just because I chose to date one over the other doesn't mean the other is less attractive Someone brought up strictly religious may initial prefer demure, modest women. However if they deconstruct and get into metal the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:19 PM
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~Ron Burgundy enters the chat~ Well, that escalated quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:16 PM
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But, as you said they are different. You still like intelligence, but (as you said) you might not be interested in an intelligent woman that is broke because you understand the actual implications of being with someone broke. Not like, it's a deal breaker. If I meet a woman that was temporarily broke, that's one thing, life happens. But if she was perpetually broke tbh that's just a sign of low intelligence. Assuming Brooke means the same thing to both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:15 PM
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Anyway, attraction feels about like that, to me. That's what I can't understand. Both your analogy and my op. I've never been a picky eater. I want them and I'm not now. Certainly the type of food I favor at any given moment can change, but there's never really been a cuisine that I dislike. But secondly, how do you reconcile that with a long term relationship? If preferences for women are as fucked as the type of food you like, why would a woman date you? Apologies in advance if you're gay or d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:09 PM
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I have had some preferences change over time. One stupid example, shaved pussies.... Lol, see my edit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:06 PM
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That makes sense, but I consider stuff like that separately. I didn't care about a girls major when I was at University, but I certainly care about her career now. But at both times in my life, now and then, intelligence was attractive to me. Being dumb was a turn off. That hasn't changed and is not dependant on what stage of life I'm at. When I'm 60 I'm pretty confident I'll only be attracted to intelligent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:05 PM
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Fair enough And you attribute this to what you were exposed to as a child? So would it be accurate to say you were always attracted to bigger girls, you just didn't know it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:03 PM
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Maybe it's arbitrary, but I exclude age from this. It's normal that you're attracted to people around your age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:01 PM
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My preferences have changed too, over time. I’m not attracted to the same physical type of guy. I preferred tall and lanky, and now I’m into shorter and stockier guys. I hated craning my neck to kiss the tall guys, and keeping myself at a distance to avoid being in the way. I’m 5’7 and my husband is 5’10 and it makes things so much easier for me. Thanks for your input, I can see that. I'm kind of right at the 'sweet spot' of height for a man so my height requirements only ever excluded the outli…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:50 PM
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Changing (or widening) preferences doesn’t invalidate other attractions or preferences (in the past, present, or future), right? Whether it does it doesn't, what I'm saying is I'm skeptical of the claim. Is this related to the idea that if a woman is attracted to you now but in the past was attracted to a guy with a different look, she must be lying/setting I guess, but that's not my intent. I'm not some incel and I think if you read my other comments that's clear. I think this applies as much t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:48 PM
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I changed a lot between 15 and 25, even my tastes for food changed. This is a pretty common development process for humans, even if you haven’t changed much, not everyone is like you. I probably shouldn't have used the word preferences, I mean things more like deal breakers. Well that’s not a preference changed, he still prefers something else, he’s just less picky about having someone that meets all his preferences. That is also something that can happen, standards can change, but that’s not a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:40 PM
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Interaction and good experiences with a variety of aesthetics and body types over time has led to the realization that there are so many other things that are a turn-on than just what I could identify in my late teens, you know? When you say it like that it makes sense. I've always been pretty open with what I find attractive so maybe that's why I haven't really 'changed' my preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:32 PM
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Lol at the turn of the century (1900s) American men were worried American women were too thin and wanted them to be fatter. True, but macro trends aren't really relevant to individuals. Did you personally only date flat women and then changed to preferring women with big asses?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:45 PM
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Interesting, what caused this realization? Other than this one change, has there ever been any other drastic change of preference? Are these physical, personality or both?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:43 PM
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Thanks for the reply, this makes sense, however you only mention personality. Have your physical preferences changed over time as well??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:41 PM
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Ok physically when it comes to that there was Nice Booty, pretty face, brunette preferred, thin waist With preferences in that order. BUT there were a lot of exceptions. (Curvy blond cheerleader who had this laugh I could not get enough of. Sorority girls of all types. Hardcore feminist. Cougar took me home once. Etc) Bro, your preference is just good looking lol. Like, I guess you could say I have a 'preference' for longer, jet black hair, but I don't even think I would classify it as a prefere…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:37 PM
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Thanks for the thoughtful response. I don't know that you've changed my view, but it's helped my understanding. Maybe the fact that even though relationships have ended for me, they didn't end because of personality contrast like yours have. It's always been life stuff like moving cities that caused my ltrs to end. Outside of the creative vs. focused (or whatever we want to call the dichotmoy) did you have a change for physical preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:34 PM
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Thanks for your input. I wrote out a few different replies, but I think it would be easier if I asked one specific question rather than address everything you've written. Hypothetically, if you were in a relationship with a woman that is pale/petite/busty/brunette and, somehow, she came to understand that your type changes relatively drastically. How would you assure her that this time it's real? Also, in this hypothetical, would you yourself feel that this preference won't change? ​ Edit, added…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:28 PM
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That makes more sense but that's not really the type of preference I am talking about. Sorry if I wasn't clear in my op. I'm talking specifically about appearance and personality. If we had a lineup of every woman you've been with, would we see strong commonalities? Would we see big differences based on the age you were at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:20 PM
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I'm just not the same person I was at 16, I have different wants and goals This is what I don't understand. What you're describing here just doesn't make sense to me. My wants and goals don't impact the type of woman I am attracted to and I am the same person I was at 16. Of course I've matured and gotten experience. I'm probably better at relationships because I've experienced them. I'm better at adulting too. But that doesn't mean my preferences in a woman's appearance and personality has dras…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:18 PM
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Gotcha, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:10 PM
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So, maybe we're talking about different preferences. Do you not have any preferences that you do act on? Height, weight, abilities, ethnicity, interests? Like, are you saying that any man has just as much chance with you as any other man? tbh that seems hard to believe. If we had a lineup of every man you've ever slept with, would there be no commonalities between them? Either divided by time period or across the board?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:05 PM
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Gotcha Are you saying that, when you were younger, your preferences were 'be a female and don't be hideous'? And then you met your wife and fell in love? If that's the case, it sounds like your preferences didn't really change. It sounds like you met a woman, who met your preference criteria, and you fell in love with her. That's awesome man, but it doesn't really CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:02 PM
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I know for a fact that I’d let any girl in a ripped band tee with her midriff showing put a dog collar on me. So there’s that. Lol, don't let your current girl see the porn you watch
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:00 PM
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Preferences/attractants are shallow and usually based on ignorance. Do you feel this way about your current preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:59 PM
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Interesting. It sounds like in the past you had a preference for artist types. What is your preference now? And, if you get with/are currently with someone who fits that preference, do you ever wonder if that preference will change just like your previous preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:44 PM
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My preferences was for attractive, ready and willing when I was really young. And then suddenly my preferences were for women with “potential Can you expand on this? What is added to the mix for someone to have 'potential'? And do you not have a preference any more for 'attractive, ready and willing'? Any more with the understanding that you're now married so I guess it's a hypothetical
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:42 PM
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I think superficial preferences can change. I used to think that the alt girl and goth aesthetic was off putting. Same goes with tats and piercings. But today, those are usually the girls that I eye-fuck. Interesting, have you given any thought to why you changed? Personally, as long as she was intelligent and not fat, hair color or piercings or whatever was and still is irrelevant to me. With the caveat that like, 8000 piercings or complete face tattoo would be off putting, but I felt that way …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:40 PM
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I think the same type of guy still typically turns me off, like i don't think I'd ever be into a gym bro or a man with frat boy energy. That's exactly how I feel. I've never had like super high preferences or anything but they haven't really changed over the years so it's tough for me to imagine a woman, to your example, who previously only liked skinny nerds but then changes to preferring gymbros, or vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:38 PM
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Thanks, I appreciate the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:34 PM
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Are you perhaps trying to say that standards don't go down? Or that women who like high-alpha men won't suddenly start liking high-betas? I know a lot of people are sensitive to incel type posts here but I can assure you that ain't me. My thoughts on the matter apply to both men and women. Fwiw, I'm 6"1' white passing and have never had problems dating. It's just specifically the claim the preferences change that I have trouble understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:34 PM
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Thanks for your input, this does make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:32 PM
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Fair point, however it's tough for me to understand that change unless it's in a context of priorities. Like, I know guys who only went after party girls when they were younger but now are either with or looking for more 'stable' girls. But none of them claim that their preferences have changed, just that their priorities have changed. When we were at university, the priority was getting laid. Now the priority is family. But the preference didn't change. They still prefer those girls, it's just …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:31 PM
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You're basically saying "other people experience this thing but because I don't experience it, it doesn't exist. I'm open to having my view changed. I'm just hoping someone can explain a little more how and why they change. Also, how they are certain their preferences have stopped changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:27 PM
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Ok, thanks for your reply. Help me understand how your preferences can change like that? Are you in a serious relationship rn?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:20 PM
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I edited my comment, those aren't really the preferences I'm talking about. Appearance and personality are the preferences that I meant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:19 PM
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I didn't know I like women who could be dominant in bed once in a while until I tried it. Before that I wanted girls that were always submissive in bed. Types of sex isn't really what I had in mind because, leaving aside your other comments, any type of woman can have good or bad sex. I prefered completely shaved pussies before but now I prefer a bit of hair (trimmed, nothing wild), it looks sexy and feels good when I go down on the girl. Similar to the first one, personal grooming of that natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:15 PM
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I think dating is extremely difficult for “low tier men”. These men can be described as unattractive, overweight, balding, socially retarded, poor, no style, awkward, etc. Correct I see it similar to a hyperbolic curve. At some inflection point a man's dating prospects skyrocket, but for the men in the preceding categories it's pretty grim
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:41 PM
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The principle is the same, either commonalities exist amongst classifications or they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:15 PM
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Asians have a more conservative culture, right? Like they don't even go telling everyone how many people they have sex with. It'smore of a private thing right? That's way too much of an oversimplification.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:19 PM
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It seems like the main difference is that it's viewed as an internal problem (I need to improve myself and up my game to find a girlfriend), compared to an external problem (What's wrong with women? I'm a great guy and they only want sex with Chad!). This I lived in East Asia for over a decade and am fluent in Chinese. Op has Thai roots so I can't talk about that, but in East Asia it is definitely a thing and men get made fun of for it all the time. The difference is that it's not some taboo sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:17 PM
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You know that experiment where you tell people some statistic that is objectively true about human behavior and they technically understand what you said well enough to repeat it but then you show them examples of real situations where that statistic applies and they functionally completely forget about it and are in disbelief when the statistic holds true? So true
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:50 PM
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When I was younger I had plenty of experiences where I got to second base or fooled around but didn't have sex. But my goal was always to get laid. If a girl offered, would you really say no to playing with her breasts and trying to make her cum from licking her nipples? If that was the offer and that's as far as it would go and I'd never see her again, hell no. But if it was a first hookup situation and I might see her again but she only wanted to mess around, sure. But that wasn't what I was p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:45 PM
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I'm listening lol I hear you and it makes some sense, but for just a hookup? I still can't completely wrap my head around it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:28 PM
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I think these women are probably a little more open with sex stuff than you are Maybe open is the wrong word, you know what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:18 PM
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racial stereotyping is wrong, so why is gender stereotyping ok? That's kind of the million dollar question lol I don't know that I can answer that, it's a complicated cultural and sociological thing that people probably write books about. For me personally, I just think race and gender are not comparable, just like gender and hair color are not comparable. So if someone makes an all encompassing 'all Asians _______', even if I'm operating under the assumption that they don't literally mean 100% …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:04 PM
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Irl it's usually something along the lines of 'we were having a fun time and ended up making out and I was kinda horny but didn't really want to have sex or get naked because I didn't know him that well but I was having fun so I gave him a blowjob' On PPD I've read many women say that men don't understand what sex is like for a woman, to be penetrated, etc and that they would sometimes prefer to stay more or less clothed and/or not have sex while still being intimate. So, I hear what they're say…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:52 PM
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i'd say why is it just men, why not "women need to be suspicious of people" or people should be suspicious of people Because in their day to day lives, women are not constantly approached by other women and in those few occasions when they are, it's less threatening than some random man who is probably bigger and stronger, since most men are bigger and stronger than most women. ​ Short answer; yes, that's ok Long answer; The difference here is that, with the phrase "All ______ do _______" you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:25 PM
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Dating is such a personal topic it short-circuits all the reason we apply to other domains. We don’t tolerate not hiring someone because of their race, but you can discriminate based on your “preference.” We research the housing market in our area but if you research the dating market it’s “overthinking” Exactly I've never understood this. I certainly understand when people take issue with certain claims that are made. That's perfectly reasonable. But anyone who has friends and knows people irl …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:13 PM
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Do you apply this to any other sociological topic? If I said that "Humans like salt in their food", would you get bent out of shape and tell me that people exist who don't enjoy salt? If I said that "People like movies or shows where the underdog wins" would you tell me that people exist who like when the bad guys wins? If I said "I like pizza" would you say 'oh ya, well here's an english muffin with ketchup and a slice of kraft that I microwaved. It technically fits the definition of pizza, do …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:02 PM
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I always thought of it from a man's perspective. Would I hook up with a woman if the hook up was only a little making out and fooling around and then me going down on her? The answer is no. Even if Rhianna proposed an ons like that I'd say no. But I've read what women say, and I try to understand. It still doesn't make sense, for an ons at least, but I'm trying to listen!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:05 PM
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Focusing on the exact proportion is foolish, but the general principle, at least how I understand pareto applied to sex, is that a numerically large but proportionally small number of men have slept with, at least once, a very large proportion of women. This aligns completely with my lived experience. The exact proportion is probably more like 70/10. So, while I don't necessarily disagree with your point, I also think you're not able to see the forest because you're so focused on the individual …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:23 PM
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It’ll hopefully help you realise that women are all individuals just like men, My problem with this line of thinking is that, seemingly, this is only applied to sex and relationships and nothing else. For example, if you open a business and are planning your marketing, would you not look at best practices in the industry? If you opened a pizza place, would you make pizza or would you use English muffins and ketchup because 'there are customers out there for me, I just know it'? If you wanted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:03 PM
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Minor thing, but I never understood women who would meet a guy and hook up with him, but that hookup was only giving him a blowjob. Like, you get nothing from this and yet you willingly do it. After reading commentary from women, I still can't really 'understand' it but at least I know what their perspective is So, not really an ideological shift but an expansion of my understanding I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:41 PM
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Well said Did you read that famous story, she may have written a book I can't remember, about a woman's experience masquerading as a man, I think a bowling league was involved somewhere? A lot of the manosphere point to it all the time, just wondering what your take on it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:36 PM
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One of my closest friends is similar to this. His mom was a sahm and did everything for him. I'm not dating him so I can't compare in that way, but ffs why did you even bother dating this guy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:48 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I've never felt it held me back or anything, I just meant it to illustrate my point, it's not like I'm weird looking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:41 AM
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This is tied to a greater cultural phenomenon here in the US: any comment that could be construed in any possible way as a negative to the receiver is considered taboo. I have a big nose, that's a fact. I'm not a freak by any means, but since the new Star Wars came out I've had people tell me I look like Adam Driver... a lot. I don't feel bad about it, it's just the shape of a part of my face. In the US, no one will ever say it. Why? Because a big nose could maybe be considered a negative and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:31 PM
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Oops my bad, you were posting so much in this thread my mind just signed you as op lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:26 PM
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Says the guy who just posted " Women aren't meant to be monogamous"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:23 PM
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Remember that scene in the first guardians of the galaxy with all the gold people? I'm pretty sure the 80/20 rule exists there too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:46 PM
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Think of it like +2 to charisma if there’s a woman This womxn speaks the language of redditors lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:04 PM
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Ummm, is this actually a thing? Any adult human, male, female, womixn, otherkin, whatever, should wash every part of their body, probably especially the past with shit on it. Ffs, it's 2022, this can't be a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:05 AM
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80/20 rule to me means that 20% of men have, at some point in time slept with or been intimate with, 80% of women. 80/20 has no bearing on amount of sex, only number of partners. A hookup counts the same as a three year relationship. This is based mostly in my lived experience with a few other data points mixed in. So, obviously any individual person can claim that they're different and unique. But I think if you had a true accounting on a spreadsheet of who every woman has ever been with you wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:48 PM
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Ya, that fits with my lived experience as well. So, for me at least, I think there are two valid uses of the 80/20 rule
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:46 PM
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Correct, Although tbh, I think there is some merit in another reading of the 80/20 rule. And that is that 20% of men have slept with 80% of women. I think in this case the proportion is probably less than 80%, but the idea that there is a numerical large but proportionally small percentage of men who have been with, even if just once, a significant proportion of women, does jive with my lived experience. A lot of women don't do the casual thing, but many have done it once or twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:03 PM
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20% of men are having 80% of the casual sex This is always what it meant to me, but it's often twisted by omitting the 'casual' part.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:44 PM
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It's only hypocritical if they themselves have never been with an older guy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:43 PM
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Yes, but only if she has a large family network that helps and has a good relationship with her father (good in the sense that they aren't always fighting and coparent well) And if she only has one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 03:08 AM
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Ya, and I know you're just one person and don't speak for like, the aggregate of Reddit, Twitter, etc But I kinda feel like, until an objective standard is openly and clearly articulated and enforced, we should all vocally oppose banning all but the most egregious cases. Child porn, instant ban and sent to the authorities for investigation. Rape porn, believe it or not, instant ban and sent to the authorities. But in cases like the one someone linked to on this post where a Trper says women want…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:23 PM
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And yet #killallmen doesn't get anyone banned
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 02:39 PM
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Ok, I didn't realize I had to spell it out in that much detail. When I'm dating a woman, her personality, whether I like her, whether she likes me and whether we mutually enjoy each other's company is very important. It's also important long term that I'm above par on the guys she's slept with. Whether it's only two or more than fifty, it doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:56 AM
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How the heck did you get that from what I wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:11 AM
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Right, OP misunderstands the 80/20 rule. Or maybe I'm the one who misunderstands it I guess. But the 80/20 rule as I see it, accurately describes my lived experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:09 AM
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It means that any woman I date has likely slept with a guy that's better than me and that guy would laugh at me if he was made aware that we were dating. It also means that when I'm looking for a relationship, I generally don't date my looksmatch. I prefer a woman slightly less attractive than I am so that I'm more likely to be one of the best she's been with. With that being said, it's not something that I really focus on. It's just part of life as a man. You can either accept it and live your …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:54 AM
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I guess When I hear the 80/20 rule in terms of dating, it never occurred to me that it was literally 80% of every sexual encounter are had by 20% of men. That does not align with my lived experience at all. It's ridiculous. But apparently some people here think that is the case. What does align with my lived experience is that 20% of men have slept with, at least once, 80% of women. It's probably not exactly 80/20, that would be odd. But the principle of is probably accurate; that a numerically …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:38 AM
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I am sure a more than significant amount of all individual instances of sex are had by the very few men and women that find themselves in good relationships and that doesn't change if the girl had a wild phase in her past. I don't think that's true. If you sum the total instances of sex, I find it highly unlikely that 80% of all encounters were had by 20% of men. What I do think is likely is that a numerically large, but proportionally small, number of men have slept with, at least once, a signi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:30 AM
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And we can prove this….how? I don't think it can be definitively proven how is that at all useful ? Some people find human behavior interesting. I don't think the 80/20 rule is exactly 80/20. But the principle that there is a numerically large, but proportionately small, number of men who have slept with most women, at least once. That definitely matches up with my lived experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:27 AM
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To me, it always meant that 20% of men have slept with 80% of women. I'm not sure those numbers are accurate, but the principle behind them certainly jives with my lived experience
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:24 AM
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20% of men are having 80% of the sex. have had sex with 80% of women. At least that's how I understood it. The exact 80/20 are probably not accurate, but the principle is sound. But if you think it means 20% of men are having 80% of the sex...I mean that's just absurd. If you're in a relationship, you're going to have more sex than someone who isn't. However, at some point in the past, it's likely that your girl has slept with at least one top 20% guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:22 AM
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It's based on the Pareto Principle, which isn't specifically about dating but a lot of people have used it to describe the SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:16 AM
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No need to apologize bro! I don't want to sound like an MRA lol, but keep lifting and bettering yourself. I don't want to get political, because I'm not a Trumper and didn't vote for him. But it was really sad to watch the same people who oh so self righteously perched on their soapbox, lecturing about body shaming, then do a complete 180 and embrace body shaming. It's just like #metoo, if you're not going to be consistent, then what the hell is the point because you're never going to convince p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:54 PM
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(insecurity of my hand size as a man) Interesting. What did you think of the blatant body shaming towards Trump? I can't imagine it felt good knowing that a significant segment of the population embraced shaming men for having small hands
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:24 PM
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Ahhh, gotcha, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 07:40 PM
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have the relationship be even in terms of power and age appropriate I think I know what you mean by power, but I don't get the age appropriate part
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 06:29 PM
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I would prefer not to, but where I live and in my age bracket, it's virtually impossible to meet someone palatable without a kid
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 06:28 PM
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Someone with an understanding of Japanese culture is irrelevant, but your analysis based on people who post on the internet is valid? Is Reddit and accurate representation of the real world in America?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:31 PM
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Fair point, but then what about the converse; if sex is just a glorified massage, why monogamy? Why not a deep emotional connection with someone but y'all bang who you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:54 PM
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To me the number is less important than who she was with to get those numbers. As long as I would have been an option when she was racking those numbers up, it becomes less important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:19 AM
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and a healthy weight. Is that average in The UK?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:38 PM
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I I'm born and raised in the US but lived in multiple different countries for most of my adult life. Everything you listed is accurate. Dating in America is absolutely ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:37 PM
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Do you spend every single minute with your partner? Tbh, that sounds awful. There isn't anyone I'd want to spend every minute with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 04:30 AM
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The phrase used was good friend. If I was gay, I'd date all of my good friends...except the ugly ones lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 04:12 AM
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This is something I have trouble understanding. If they're good in bed and a good friend...what more do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 01:06 AM
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Preach!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:32 PM
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secretly I always felt a little bit sorry for her, as she was missing out on all the wild times I had a teen. Her story ended happily; she's a married SAHM, and I'm glad for her. Did this experience lead you to question whether your idea that 'wild times' (your implication being sleeping around) are necessary to have a happy and fulfilling life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 06:47 AM
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You KNOW hot guys are WAY more likely to cheat. This is self-evident... Not true at all
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:58 PM
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I live in a rural part of the US and it is brutal here. Not only are there so many fat people, but the not fat ones are disproportionally off the market. Of the single people, the proportion who are fat and have kids compared to no kids and not fat is like, at least 10-1.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:14 PM
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I don't necessarily like the AF/BB dichotomy, but if we're using it, alpha bucks is the best, not beta bucks. A guy like you has no idea what it's like to spend years of your life without any attention from women, watching guys like you run through them like Kool aid, and then have those same women, but fatter and saggier, try to tell him he's actually the winner. Without using those terms, the best is to be a well socialized guy who dates and has sex in his youth and then settles down with a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:03 PM
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Everytime this discussion comes up, I'm always so confused with analogies like this. The accurate comparison is not a guy who 'chases' supermodels. It's a guy who consistently got with attractive women when he was younger. Then as he got older, the type of women he could attract were noticeably different than the women he got with in the past. I know men who smashed hot women during their youth and then fell apart after they got older. In no uncertain terms, they are miserable with the type of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:31 PM
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There was a draft. That doesn't mean it was necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:53 PM
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This is the answer. Any conflict that genuinely threatens the US will have more than enough volunteers. Drafts are only necessary when the population is not convinced the threat is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:05 PM
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Loads of them believe it...that doesn't mean it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:09 AM
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What's wrong in revoking your paternity after you know that they aren't your bio-kids? Because he should have tested when the child was born. If he is blinded by love and thinks 'shed never do that to me' he's an idiot. Nothing is stopping a man from testing his children at birth, except his own idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:46 PM
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DNA testing at birth solves this outright. Yes, and that's why I'm going to test my children, I don't need the state forcefully taking my genetic profile. Nothing is stopping a man from testing his kids
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 08:34 PM
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I think it's more that if a man and a woman both say they are the parents, forcing them to get tested isn't right. We have protests all over the world regarding forced medical procedures and here we are debating whether a woman who just gave birth to a child and the man both agree is the father should be forced to submit their genetic material for testing. It's offensive tbh. I think the real issue is the cultural taboo around a man confirming a child is his. Nothing is stopping a man from check…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 08:09 PM
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I think my view is still a bit different than yours. Maybe I didn't describe my view well enough. If a couple has a child and when the child is born the man agrees to put his name on the birth certificate, if they break up six years later and he then asks for a paternity test, that's too late. I mean he can get a paternity test, but he's the father. He should have done it when the child was born. If he was in love and doesn't believe she would do that to him, too bad so sad. He signed up to be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:21 PM
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I don't like the idea of the state forcing every woman who gives birth to prove who the father is. That's not right and the state shouldn't have that right. Child support is another discussion however. We can debate whether the state can take your money to support a child you created. I think that's acceptable. So when a woman files for child support with the state, then I would be fine with her having to prove who the father is. That doesn't necessarily require paternity test though. If the mot…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:56 PM
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Ha, ya, well, lots of guys on here have lots of weird ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 05:58 PM
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Biggest reason is they don't want everyone laughing at them behind their back. Second biggest reason is they are worried she'll get bored. Third biggest reason is they are worried they won't measure up to past lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 04:51 PM
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Living in the middle of nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 05:05 AM
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100% agree with you, it applies to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:24 PM
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It absolutely applies in the reverse scenario. It's just that it's much rarer for a man to have lots of experience with women who are way better than the woman he's dating. Women can and some do though. Edit to add: I have a good friend from University who is an alpha widow. He was a hockey star and slept with loads of beautiful women. Then he graduated and let himself go. The women he can get now are... drastically different. It absolutely affects him and his relationships. I feel sorry for any…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:35 PM
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It think op actually means something else that seems similar. I don't think so. I reread the post, it's pretty clear that it's not about her actions at all. The question was solely whether you are objectively the best, not whether she treats you like the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:14 PM
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Unfortunately, zero Some thought they did, some tried, some didn't care. None, however, that would take pride in it. I don't mind cooking though, and I do it well, so it wasn't an issue for me. Only talking about dated though. Of all the women I've dealt with, of course some take pride in cooking. If you've actually never 'dealt with' a single woman who takes pride in cooking, you're either very sheltered or aren't paying attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:46 PM
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You don't have to be 'the best' but you have to be good. Look man, women are weird, they're not like men. For sex to be good for men, as long as she's enthusiastic, it's more about the technical aspects, ie this position at this angle for x minutes followed by... For women, it's all wrapped up in the moment. She could have the exact same sex with five men, same positions, same duration, same dick size, etc. But everything that led up to it, the lighting at the club, the tone of your voice when y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:22 PM
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WhaT aBOuT mUh roadS
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:07 PM
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Based and George Costanza pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:43 AM
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https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/courier-archive/news/vancouver-rape-relief-targeted-with-vandalism-threats-over-transgender-controversy-3106045
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:46 PM
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Getting to marry some girl who's already been plowed through by 50 dudes after she realizes she is beginning to age. Imho, there's a big difference between someone who slept around, but would have considered you an option, versus someone who slept around but never would have considered you an option. If a man is a virgin at age 30, that's a him problem. It's true that lots of young men weren't raised to properly understand women and dating. But when I was younger, most guys knew that good lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:03 PM
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Interesting Do you think most couples feel that way? Honestly, if I had to guess, I think the vast majority of couples would describe their romantic partner the way you define casual. I have a wedding to go to on New Year's, I'm going to ask the couples there. Have you ever thought that your fwb might actually be a good long term partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:54 PM
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I'm not emotionally detached from my sex partner during sexual intimacy, he's still my best friend regardless of if we're out hiking, going to the movies, fucking, or playing videogames. There is no romance, but I always care about him on a personal level. What is the difference between this and romance? I think if I described what you just did to most people I know IRL they would say that's a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:35 PM
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Blasphemy nuance is not allowed here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:51 PM
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Basically the take on women is “oh she wants a guy who takes her on some dates at Chili’s and will help support her during maternity leave? Gold digger! looking for a beta buxx she doesn’t even love!” and then if she skips all those things and mates with a deadbeat it’s “why did she reproduce with a deadbeat loser alpha, she should have vetted for a nice guy who would take care of her.” Hahaha, so true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:06 PM
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I see this all the time, feminists getting banged out on a Friday night at the club by the guys the guys in the VIP section. You see this all the time? If you spend all your time in clubs with VIP sections, I'm not surprised this is all you see
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:49 PM
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the primitive state of animals is solitary, Not necessarily true. Many animals must be part of a group to survive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:33 PM
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Never
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:32 AM
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What flag means you should have your guard up but not necessarily exit the whole relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:51 PM
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Mate, it's not silly at all. If I meet a women and she has a clear and consistent preference for guys who are not like me, that's a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 10:40 PM
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Ya, I don't understand why it's controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:54 PM
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Of these two I would only slightly prefer woman A. But there is an option you left out that is most relevant to the post you reference. Woman C: Three past boyfriends. No other experience with sex outside of these relationships. All three are similar races, similar height and similar body types to each other and different from yourself. This is the scenario that makes many men nervous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:45 PM
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This seems more like she was done experimenting with hot guys in her youth and is now focused more on dependability and financial stability in her partners. ​ Yes...dual mating strategy ​ Obviously the bf should similarly be able to date who he wants at his age without judgment, but the simple truth is that he happens to be dating OP (who isn't at fault for any of this) so his frustration is weirdly misdirected, and actually telling her something like that makes him a tactless dick. ​ He saw a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:31 PM
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Australian women "hold my beer"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:28 PM
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He will often comment on other, good looking women’s appearances saying stuff like “she’s not that attractive” clearing forgetting his own girlfriend is below average. Few things bug me more than guys like this. I've met so many throughout my life and it never ceases to amaze me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:56 PM
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It was Aubrey Plaza...mega babe
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:59 PM
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That includes repeat marriages. First time marriages have something like a 70% chance of lasting. It's the second, third, fourth marriages that bring the average down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 06:46 PM
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I've heard the analogy 'you don't ask a fish how to catch a fish you ask a fisherman how to catch a fish' Absolutely agree with this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:09 PM
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I think young women are given much more realistic advice about what attracts men. There certainly is a lot of garbage advice given to young women concerning relationships, that's true. But when it comes to initial attraction, they are told the truth from family, friends and wider society. This is absolutely not the case with young men. What they're taught is absolute garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:35 PM
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I mean this is also pretty standard advice in general, No, it's not. You may think it is, but for many young men coming up in the world it is not standard advice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:02 PM
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I've never had a problem recognizing, over the course of an evening, where the night is flowing and reading signals. One thing I've learned from this sub is that there really are people who either don't have the social experience or are just mentally challenged ( not a dig, I mean Asperger's and the like) and are unable to read people. And the choking and rough stuff, so weird to me. I mean, there's a big difference in my mind between light hair pulling and light ass smacking and full out chokin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:53 PM
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You're talking about Carlos Slim I assume. I had no idea, that's very interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:43 PM
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So honestly ladies and gents, what's your solution in an ideal world? I think that what we're living in is simply the manifestation of humans in a modern society. As a man, all I can do is understand the society we live in and do what's necessary to maximize my potential. That and to help the young men in my family to understand the world we live in. I'm not sure I would call myself a red pill, butt I probably lean that direction in the sense that, for men to attract women out comes down to Be g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:41 PM
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Political Rally Are you kidding me. Assuming your both share the same political views and are activist minded, this is a perfect date
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:07 AM
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My thoughts exactly. It what world is Brazil and Mexico not part of "the west"...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:41 PM
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It's absurd. I'm actively dating and income per se isn't what I'm looking for, it's more about her intelligence and character. Certainly, all things being equal, more money is better. But I already make enough to support a family, so her job is more of an indicator that we're of the same social class. Like, I would date a teacher even though she'll never make a salary close to mine. I wouldn't date her if she spent all her waking hours watching real housewives and cruising Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:32 AM
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It's absurd. I'm actively dating and income per se isn't what I'm looking for, it's more about her intelligence and character. Certainly, all things being equal, more money is better. But I already make enough to support a family, so her job is more of an indicator that we're of the same social class. Like, I would date a teacher even though she'll never make a salary close to mine. I wouldn't date her if she spent all her waking hours watching real housewives and cruising Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:32 AM
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It's absurd. I'm actively dating and income per se isn't what I'm looking for, it's more about her intelligence and character. Certainly, all things being equal, more money is better. But I already make enough to support a family, so her job is more of an indicator that we're of the same social class. Like, I would date a teacher even though she'll never make a salary close to mine. I wouldn't date her if she spent all her waking hours watching real housewives and cruising Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:32 AM
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It's absurd. I'm actively dating and income per se isn't what I'm looking for, it's more about her intelligence and character. Certainly, all things being equal, more money is better. But I already make enough to support a family, so her job is more of an indicator that we're of the same social class. Like, I would date a teacher even though she'll never make a salary close to mine. I wouldn't date her if she spent all her waking hours watching real housewives and cruising Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:31 AM
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Even with the most charitable understanding of their points they're still wrong. For example, a good friend of mine from University could fit the mold of the nerdy loser who never had success with women, but then as he got older became somewhat of a "catch". His wife doesn't make nearly as much money as him, she's some kind of part time nurse and he basically supports their lifestyle. Is she some kind of instathot?? Of course not! She's basically his looksmatch (they're both not very attractive)…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:04 AM
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Even with the most charitable understanding of their points they're still wrong. For example, a good friend of mine from University could fit the mold of the nerdy loser who never had success with women, but then as he got older became somewhat of a "catch". His wife doesn't make nearly as much money as him, she's some kind of part time nurse and he basically supports their lifestyle. Is she some kind of instathot?? Of course not! She's basically his looksmatch (they're both not very attractive)…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:04 AM
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I'm a man and I'm telling you, I care. We're talking about the woman who is going to raise my children. The woman who's going to be around my mother and aunts. I'm not picking some thot who watches the Kardashians and TikTok 24/7 for that role. I don't care if she's marginally more attractive. I mean, I have to be around her all the time, I want someone who I can talk to and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:12 PM
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I'm a man and I'm telling you, I care. We're talking about the woman who is going to raise my children. The woman who's going to be around my mother and aunts. I'm not picking some thot who watches the Kardashians and TikTok 24/7 for that role. I don't care if she's marginally more attractive. I mean, I have to be around her all the time, I want someone who I can talk to and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:12 PM
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The only men who don’t care about women’s money and education are broke uneducated men. So true The supposed men on here who say they are six figure engineers who don't care at all about their partners education... Who are these people? Because I've never met one. I don't know a single educated man who thinks that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:08 PM
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Man, what are you talking about? I'm a college educated man from a solid middle class family. A wife with a doctorate absolutely had status. Not all doctorates are equal of course, but in the aggregate, I would be much more likely to be interested in a woman if she is well educated. My friends and I are all more likely to marry educated women. It's certainly conceivable that I could ended up with a line cook, but the probability is very low. It's not about income per se, it's about compatibility…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:05 PM
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My grandfather was a farmer, my grandmother stayed at home until her kids were old enough and then she got a job. They weren't poor by any means and my family is still living off of their work to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 03:49 PM
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I do sympathize with men to the extent that dating women is much harder Just curious, but in your experience what is much harder about dating women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:26 PM
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This wasn't like, light choking... She wanted me literally squeezing her neck hard. I'm def not into that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 04:28 PM
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I've been with women who like "rough" sex and it definitely changed my feelings for her. One woman I was having sex with just up and slapped me...never saw her again. Another wanted me to choke her... never saw her again either I'm not interested at all in that and tbh I think it's weird at best and indicative of deeper problems at worst. In short, a big red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:29 PM
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By the age of 20?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 02:47 PM
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Male 38 Purple Single No one in particular, but I like the women who give thoughtful responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:23 AM
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Country women are usually way fatter though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 04:11 AM
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I feel like relationships and sex are taboo topics in real life. With most people you can only go so far before someone gets butthurt or takes personal offense. This is kind of the only place I can go to hear these ideas talked about. The incels and black pillers are tiresome and topics tend to get repeated over and over again. But when you get past that I find much of the discussions enlightening.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 04:04 AM
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I said more than nostalgia. And anyway, it's not gendered, have you read anything I've written?? It's just more common for women to experience better partners than who they settle with. But the same applies to men. And tbh, men take it much harder than women when it actually happens to them, it's just much rarer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:36 PM
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When I look back at my younger days, the women I was with are not that different than the women I can get now. Yes we're a bit older but still fit, active, etc. If I could only get fat gravel donkeys I'd be pretty depressed. I wasn't able to get with bikini models. If I had, I would definitely look at my current options and be slightly depressed about it. But, I do know lots of women who did hook up with top men. Pro athletes, rich finance guys, models, etc. For some, it was consistent, for othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:10 AM
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Do you have also consistently seen it with your own eyes amongst all of the women that you have close friendships with and female family members? 1000% yes nb4, I'm not some mgtow incel. I have healthy friendships with women I've known for many years, decades even. But this is a reality that no amount hamstering will change. Best case scenario is that she looks back on her younger years as a different lifetime and she is happy with her current man, even if he isn't as fit or popular as the hocke…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:30 AM
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Whenever this comes up I think of Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite. It's like, any human being who experiences X at a point in their life and then has to 'settle' for less than X is not going to be satisfied. It isn't women, it's people. However, it's much rarer for men to have tons of casual sex with hot babes and then settle for less than that as they get older. I know what I've seen with my own eyes and I know that for most guys, they have relatively consistent attractiveness of women they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:57 PM
2

This has more or less happened to me a couple of times
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 03:45 AM
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Ok, I understand the responses women are giving here, but I've actually lived this to some degree. When I first started making money I did spend somewhat lavishly on the woman I was dating at the time. For a number of reasons we broke up. Since then I've changed how I see money and I don't waste it on stupid things. It's happened a few times that women I've dated since her have found out about my previous lifestyle. The reaction was never "gee golly that's neat but I'm happy with you now and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 03:42 AM
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Op is trolling, it's like a stereotype thread of anglos vs latinos Ya, I get it's a CMV but it would be nice for op to debate in good faith. As soon as he wrote that Catholics aren't real Christians it's like, ok dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:23 PM
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No, people in the US are not all descended from Puritans. In fact, a plurality are descendants of german peoples fleeing the thirty years war, especially in the middle of the country. By your logic it's the legacy of people fleeing war that explains it. But those same german peoples also went to Mexico, and Brazil, and Argentina... Yes, Europe is less religious than the US, but many countries in south america are crazy religious, just like the US. But they don't have the same weirdness with dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 03:18 AM
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I don't have an answer to that. It's a cultural trait that can only change with time. I can only observe and translate through the lense of the life that I've lived. I'm not sure that you're correct though with your focus on puritanism. Religiosity in general may play a role, but I don't think it's the whole story. I think it's much deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 03:05 AM
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Nope Minnesota.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 02:48 AM
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It's not that The US is sexually repressed per se. In fact it's not even dating per se. The weirdness in dating habits is more of a symptom of a deeper weirdness. I grew up here but after university left and lived abroad, mostly in Asia but a year long stint in Italy and nine months in France. I came back a few years ago and the experience of living abroad and then coming back has kind of exposed this weirdness to me. I've thought about it a lot and I don't have it exactly figured out but I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 02:46 AM
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I just moved to a small city, 40,000 people, from a major metro area, 4million, and it is BRUTAL. At least 50%, if not more, of the women over 25 are obese. Another 25% are overweight. Same with the men. I've never really used OLD but we're currently in lockdown here so I've been on it and it is very depressing. I've been getting matches with attractive women but it's obvious that they are overwhelmed with matches and since people are hesitant to meet up it's pretty much a waste of time. I'm hop…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 01:57 AM
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Look at Tim Tebow. He dates women and they break up with him because he won't sleep with then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:19 PM
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This isn't hard to understand if you grew up in society. Look at how people tiptoe around fat people. You can't say anything that might possibly in somehow acknowledge that their fat as hell. Same thing with dick size. No one will ever say something like that in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 01:34 PM
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I grew up in one of those areas on the fringe of a major metro area, so somewhat rural but not like middle of the nowhere appalachia rural. Because of this, I have a good mix of social classes in the group of people I grew up with and can say, especially amongst the working class types, they don't care at all. In fact, they want her to work and make as much as she can. If their wives were doctors, they'd be ecstatic. Amongst the university attending types, I think they are conscious of anyone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:55 PM
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Ya, only if he's dumb enough to wait five years. All it takes is a quick swab when the child is born. If it comes back negative, then you go to court
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 03:40 AM
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Only if he's dumb enough to not get a paternity test
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 03:18 AM
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This is why TRP should be CHEERING feminism instead of shitting all over it. Feminists have killed off a ton of male competition for you guys. Excellent point Yes, Chad has it easy, but there are millions of women out there and if a man can just be smart enough to get an education and aware enough to exercise and dress well, he's already in the top 20 percentile, if not top ten.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 03:28 PM
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We're talking about high school kids
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 12:16 AM
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At any given HS/college the top athletes almost always have serious GF's practically glued to them. That wasn't my experience then, it wasn't the experience of most people I know and it isn't the experience of the few high school kids I know through my job. One of these kids is a hockey player, good looking, fit, has a gf just like you described. Last week he was showing a couple of the other kids snaps from a couple girls he was messing with on the side. So, no different than fifteen years ago …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 09:36 PM
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At some point they do, but that's usually after they've gone through loads of other girls. Ime, the most desirable guys, under 26 years old, went through tons of girls. Often they had a gf who would either overlook his slutting around or would break up when she found out. Rinse and repeat. Then they graduate and find one to marry. Maybe your thinking that "universally admired" is so narrow that only like, Tim Tebow fits your description. If not, all I can say is that this is my lived experience,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 08:29 PM
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Ok, I see what you wrote. I read "are" not "aren't" So to answer your question, I've never heard that. I think, generally speaking, Chad's hang out with other chads or Brads. In my experience most friend groups don't have Chads and incels in them. Usually there's a smaller range in the friend group. So maybe the closest I've ever experienced to what you've described is something like "god dammit chad, you always take the hot chick WTF "
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 08:20 PM
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Weirdly enough I find that the biggest status marker for young guys is LTRing the most attractive/desired girls, not racking up a high N. Wrong, but close. The highest status marker is sleeping with lots of attractive/desired girls, not LTRing one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 07:58 PM
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Lol, I doubt it. I mean, lots of people feel lots of ways about things so I'm sure you could find some guys who feel that way. At the end of the day, most people, if not all, think their experience is similar to other's experiences. I think most guys who get laid a lot would just say something like "it's not hard bro, just get out there and have a good time and talk to women." It never occurs to them that they are good looking enough to get that type of attention from women and that other people…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 07:56 PM
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I'm not sure how you got that from my post...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 07:51 PM
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Where I work there are a fair amount of high school kids. I sometimes interact with them. It looks to me no different than when I was in high school, albeit with social media( I'm an older millennial) A few guys are getting laid while the rest of the guys aren't. The guys that are getting laid are doing it with multiple girls. Usually one girl is their main and the others are ONS or some variant of side chick. This is just my anecdotal observation but it jives pretty well with what I've experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:55 PM
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Ya...I'd like to know who these people are that you've apparently talked to who say everything is fine. Can you introduce me? Because, unlike you, I have lots of sources that aren't American, and none of them deny the reality that is in Xinjiang. Is Turkish media to biased for you?? How about Japanese, or Taiwanese? If I thought you were genuinely interested in knowing the truth I would take the time and link some of the countless interviews and talks Uighurs have given but it's pretty clear you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:36 PM
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Lol the whole Uyghur thing is largely american propaganda and "fake news." Umm, what On what basis can you say that?? Nb4, I lived in china and Taiwan for over ten years and am fluent in Chinese. If anything, the western press downplays what's going on in western China, and it's not only uighurs, anyone not ethnic han Chinese is opressed to varying degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:26 PM
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Not necessarily disqualified but maybe 90% disqualified
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:25 PM
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I think sex and relationships is an area of our society that serious discussion of which is considered kind of taboo. I find the discussions interesting because it's not the type of thing that you can generally discuss in the real world. Nb4, I think superficial discussions are common place, but as soon as anything controversial or uncomfortable comes up people tend to get uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 06:39 PM
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I think we're kind of talking past each other. I don't really disagree with what you're saying. I must not be accurately describing my thoughts on the matter. That or the massive amount of incels here makes people touchy and edgy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 01:55 PM
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Plus why would the women tell you about the dudes she casually fucked? If you're discerning it's not hard to get an idea Funny enough, my college and early 20s BF was prematurely balding, but he cropped his hair close, so it didn’t look bad. But my last 2 ltr had full head of hair in their 30s and 40s. Should I have had to be consistent because of that? No, women don’t work like that If I have you the impression that hairstyle was what I meant by dating/hooking up with someone like me then I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 01:34 PM
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I don't think, in aggregate, that you are correct. And when it comes to dating, to some degree I have to play the numbers. If I'm dating a woman and it turns out that the type of guy she"dates" changes drastically over periods of time, my concern is that she will either continue changing with time or never changed to begin with. Both cases are a risk that I'm not willing to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 01:12 PM
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For me, it's not about n count per se, but who are the people she racked up the count with. When I'm dating a woman, I try to determine if she would have dated/hooked up with me 10, 5, 2 years ago. If the answer is no, then that's a much harder sell. If the answer is yes, then n count isn't so much of a big deal for me. Similarly, but different, woman can sleep men higher on the scale than they are, that's just a fact. Occasionally you will find men who used to get with top tier women but for wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 02:21 AM
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I've been a lurker for at least three years if not more. This is spot on. You can't read anything without a snarky incel comment that doesn't contribute anything to the discussion. Drop that hammer as far as I'm concerned, they contribute nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 11:48 PM
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That's a tough question. I don't know the answer. Tbh it depends a lot on my perception of the particular woman. If I've deemed her as the type that sleeps around, not long. But if I've deemed her as the type who doesn't, probably longer. Hypothetically, a few months, max
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 05:15 AM
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Sorry to burst your stereotype but that's a Mitt Romney quote...a Massachusetts governor
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:59 PM
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Binders full of science
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:03 AM
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For me, while not a deal breaker, as a I get to know a woman I try to determine if she would have been interested 10, 5, 2 years ago. If not, I usually stop seeing her. I should add however, that I've never really had trouble with women. it's not like I was a fat neckbeard ten years ago and now I'm a Chad or whatever. I was a relatively fit and outgoing guy then and I still am today. So, to CYV, a potential partner's past is an issue for me, but I have plenty of experience. When I evaluate someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:56 PM
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I've lived in countries with public funded health care, it didn't suck at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:16 PM
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Not per se. When I'm getting to know a woman I try to determine if 2, 5, 10 years ago she would have been down. So if she's promiscuous, but she would have been promiscuous with me, then I don't really have an issue. But, if for some reason she was promiscuous but wouldn't have been with me, then I would stop seeing her. I'm not a Chad but I've always been varying degrees of fit, am outgoing and have lots of friends so while at some points in my life I've had higher smv than at other points, I'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 09:42 PM
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For me, it's about her responsibilities and if her kids really are her life. A single mother with three kids she takes care of 100% of the time and doesn't get any support from the father or his family or even her family is someone that I would never in a million years date or enter into a relationship with. A single mother with kids who splits custody, has a good relationship with the father, father's family and her family so she's not so stressed out all the time and has free time, I would tot…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 02:47 PM
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I know very few attractive women who have never slept with a "top" guy. Even those with low n counts almost always have someone in there past, be it a footballer, musician, celebrity, etc. that they've hooked up with. I don't think women will ever comprehend what men are referring to when they say soft harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 03:46 PM
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I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but the fact that the women she's talking about were paying clients is a big factor. The type of person who is willing to pay for a matchmaker is going to be a pretty small subset of women. I'm not surprised that someone who would pay for a matchmaker has very high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 05:49 AM
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Read the first chapter of Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus. The author lays out a plausible scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:58 AM
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This is the hero we need
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:57 PM
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That's not how it works at all. US citizens abroad pay income taxes on any income earned overseas that exceeds around $100,000. Iirc the US is the only country in the world that does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 01:59 PM
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