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And same as marriage rates your point? Cant lose what you never had.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 05:22 AM
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My favourite one is women tryna use that fact that men who are married tend to be wealthier as sort of gotcha, and my response is always ya if the same dude was broke He’d be an incel. Having money got him the wife having the wife didnt get him money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 05:21 AM
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And the redpill didn’t fabricate the male loneliness epidemic btw. Which blue pillers conveniently leave out. Your right that most men aren’t red pilled but there still struggling with romantic relationships regardless, men didn’t run to red pill only To suddenly become single due to wrong think they were single even with the “right views” and “right politics” and then move over to red pill hoping for a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 05:10 AM
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been down voted too hell for pointing out that it's hypocrital to claim that men who don't want kids should just keep it zip up, only too then claim that a women keeping her legs closed is misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:14 AM
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women here will agree with you since you worded hypergamy in a favorable way. but anyways your right that a very large portion of a men's value comes from his bank account all this is just redpill 101 btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:03 AM
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nerds who get STEM degrees and make tons of money have high social standing? Or just guys in finance who look like Alec Baldwin in Glengarry Glen Ross? yes high education, plays hugely into ones status, and earning potential. Which makes the individual look better then there broker counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:26 AM
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hypergamy is the idea that most women are chasing a small portion of the most attractive guys and/or wealth guys and tryna date up. so it's hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:23 AM
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umm... actually your Kind of right the data is outdated however you overlook that things are actually worse then before. she male loneliness and sexlessness compared to women also she that the statistics point to women being even picker and chasing a smaller group of men then before.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:20 AM
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while I won't deny your lived experience (I'm not a blue piller afterall) I will say that your an anomaly. many many men's experience point to the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:09 AM
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They were single and struggling because there is always a portion of men who struggle. You just debunked your position that this only happens due to manosphere interference btw, that's how this discussion started. And while your right on how thats apart of it, many men who do this or atleast try to, still struggle with forcing intimate relationships especially the romantic kind. while some guys with anti social personalities and tendencies are doing fine and still have quite a few friends/ are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:13 AM
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What actually happened- a generation of struggling young men ended up listening to PUAs-then manopshetr/rp-alpha bros, who kept them online consuming content and posting in echo chambers (all with banner ads or “programs” to sell. You've almost got it but you need to address why these men were single and struggling in the first place before these groups took off? You keep skipping over how we got from point A to point B. This is the find out stage for a bunch of men who spent their youth playing…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:01 AM
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Cart before horse. men where lonely and then geared more towards menosphere ideals, not men jump on the menosphere for shits and giggles even though feminism was working just fine, and only then does loneliness start. What really broke it was social media telling women there’s always someone better, women getting more educated and not wanting guys that make less then them and just generally being more acceptable for people to be single etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:42 AM
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Are we going to acknowledge when men are the ones harming men? If not, that's why it gets shut down. Because it's just a ploy to talk shit about women instead of actually looking at the problems. the main stream societal message is already that any and all problems ever are solely due to men alone, even mentioning that women do infact play a part in this is already taboo as is. idk what more you want. it’s more then already being acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:03 PM
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Men try to understand women far more then the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:13 PM
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Yet even with this we keep hearing that women are oppressed women need more opportunities within this evil patriarchy etc etc. Never in the history of our species have the oppressed been finically better off then the oppressors well until now I guess…. If you ask libs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:37 AM
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i mean we‘ve talked endless about a select few men running through dozens of women we are all aware that many top men add to the problems of dating. This is nothing new. Most of the guys complaining never get to be the other guy, running through options just the guy getting cheated on if they can even find a partner at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:09 AM
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the relationship probably won't last or at the very least will be extremely unhealthy if there isn't sufficient attraction involved, it ok to want to be desired as a men which seems to be only problematic in blue pilled spaces. this reads like yet another stfu and fulfill you roll as a beta, cause it benefits women and some other nonsense about being a real men. my question then is what about the men's wants and needs within a relationship, why is it always a problem if men have any standards at…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:19 PM
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coincidentally if your hot and rich they there's almost no wrong place. usually enough in the looks and status department.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:29 PM
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I'll I agree with the conclusion and will point out that one of those is way more common then they other due to side being heavily monitored and policed while the other side is just venting or is allowed to express themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:11 PM
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and feminist make up stuff to justify there innate hatred towards men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:52 PM
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why do you specifically get to decide who or what counts as real feminist. my guess is that you'd never give this grace to say the manosphere for example. We also have enough evidence of feminist leaders saying outright bigoted and hypocrital things so ya I will continue to hold the group to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:22 PM
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don't tell that to me tell that to feminist then. there are the ones who will disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:08 PM
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most men are sick of being blamed for both crimes they didn't do and culture that no longer exists atleast in the West. and giving up for most is less about revenge and more about peace and freedom from the ones who hate you. all while women complain about having expectations whatsoever and still demanding that the men simultaneously fulfill there's.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:57 PM
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if you as an individual don't bring enough value then suddenly no such setting exists for you in the first place. coincidentally if your hot and rich they there's almost no wrong place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:54 PM
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to many people talk about the right place. when it's unfortunately more about the right face.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:45 PM
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why is a men who doesn't do his God given gender roles evil misogynist bigoted and not a real men yet and women who doesn't do her roles empowered and enlightening? all bro claim is that if men aren't owed so then keep the same energy for women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:42 PM
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the expections are still in place however you are right that said men are starting to give up, I won't say they all stopped or enough to claim that they already don't do most of this list by due to bigotry and the changing feminist landscape in culture there definitely is a shift towards those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:37 PM
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. A man cannot cry because it's not manly to cry. feminist do not care about nor are they attracted to men like this. In the first place they very much would like rules like this to remain as is. It doesn't benefit the women afterall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:22 PM
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Tell this to women there the ones who go on and on about there not being any real masculine men that’s why were here in the first place. they continue to push said outdated roles for men, while simultaneously complaining that they should be doing theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:32 AM
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Yes and Again I believe mine everyone gets a relationship eventually doesn’t do anything to disprove settling and actually proves so evidence towards it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:55 AM
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which is why men do in fact have a higher rate of infidelity despite women not being nearly as “easy” as men on average. this is mostly cause the guys with options who want to cheat usually cheat a whole fuck ton driving up the numbers substantial on the man's side of things
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:34 AM
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personality does matter just not in the blue pilled be nice and follow the right politics kind ot way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:27 AM
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again not all men is never an exceptable anwser so why would we accept not all women as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:36 AM
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racists claim the same thing, when the proclaim the dangers of whatever minority group you wanna place here. they believe there also just looking out for there safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:34 AM
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maybe they just want the women to take accountability for the bad ones. after all that's how people in this modernized society describe men. all men are rapists all men are more dangerous then wild bears and will kill you. no men care about children (atleast till you wanna claim that they do something sexual with them ofc) etc etc. then when a guys says he doesn't do any of things suddenly it's yes all men and men need to take accountability for the actions of a few. it's all women till it's no …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:32 AM
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your gasping a straws with that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:26 AM
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my guess is if we took a couple of instances where the word men is used in theses statements, and replace said words with women or a minority group suddenly you'd claim it's hate speech and the most bigoted thing ever. it's a good thing then that these biases and collective guilt is only but lobbed at the "correct" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:25 AM
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I mean that's what single men are already doing. and with the increase or singleness more and more men are already living this life. also men who end up to feminine usually end up being wildly unattractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:05 AM
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Your being to morality consistent and not blatantly biased in favor of women only, the so called equality gang hates this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:46 PM
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Men often lack both quantity and quality is the thing and throwing away their genders roles is basically the equivalent of just giving up entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:43 PM
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and your evidence towards this is? other then a classic trust bro it didn't happen don't believe your eyes, and then believe that your arguments are somehow convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 05:11 AM
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settling exists, as the anwsr to the most people do pair up question. also men are lonelier then women at most ages up until their 50+ (where women start to vastly outnumber them) so simply dating older doesn't anwser all of this. Most young men are not suitable to date, period. That's entirely on them. They need to grow up. You women will either date older or stay single rather than dealing with little boys. That's cause money, that's what your tryna touch on and that's where 90%+ of these comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:11 AM
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duel mating 101 some men are strictly for favors and utility to them, and women get upset when the loser don't shut up and except there proper place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:18 AM
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ok... that point isn't that important just replace it with the few men they claim that they find attractive and you get the same conclusions Chad is just shorter to write then tall and hot guy. we can indeed get to the same conclusion without using the terminology. women themselves also push this message when they claim most men are trash as well as, dating app statistics plus many guys anecdotals where we all see evidence of a few guys having an abundance of women. 2.thats what the top guys wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:10 AM
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this plus women's standards, rising, combined with what they offer declining etc. that's why more and more gen z guys give up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:58 PM
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most are actually in there 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:53 PM
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it's a combination of social skills, looks and wealth men who score to little in 1 or more of these are the struggling ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:53 PM
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i mean get the immigration away from are jobs is a far right talking point FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:47 PM
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for one there aren't enough of these jobs for everyone, and society won't collapse if every due only worked in tech. Also this shit reads like why don't the homeless just buy a house. just but wealth bro isn't the 500IQ conclusion that you've convinced yourself it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:45 PM
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for many men the answer is any and all. most people do indeed want to be deemed desirable by the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:10 PM
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I mean to anwser your question your right, and some women do understand this or don't and then just choose to be single or adapt there standards at a latter point in life once they realize prince charming won't both appear and adapt themselves to whatever standards that women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:22 PM
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hes not wrong this is how many many women talk about dating nowadays the chad or nothing mentally. not they there wrong for there standards but simply math will tell us there will not be enough Chad's (or as women claim where are the good men) for each of you. unless maybe where talking about sharing him then it's a bit different but women atleast on paper claim they don't like this either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:20 PM
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hand exactly yoww many women are really into this arrangement again? the people you really have to convince of this are women in general not men. typically as women climb the economic ladder there looking for men even richer the her. which of course bears the issue where the higher you climb, the less people continue to be above you. then you have more and more women complaining about where the good men are cause of this dynamic. most men willing to run the stay at home husband roles are either …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:15 PM
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ironic isn’t this. The same shit was considering bigotry just a little while ago, guess the homophobes where correct all along apparently according to OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:53 AM
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The new manuals simply point out that many men will fail within this extremely uneven and competitive landscape. Also coincidently women themselves still haven’t updated their manuals on men either which is a large part of why where still stuck where we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:44 AM
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Research indicates more and more women are identifying as LGBTQIA+ over time; in the US in a 15 year time period (2011 to 2026) it's more than doubled from 22% to nearly 50% among young women. Most women are straight, and on top of this lesbian relationships aren’t all sunshines and rainbows like many feminist keep tryna claim, heard many complaints first hand. You also left out that a large portion of these are bi and still have a large preference for men btw. and people frequently misinterpret…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:41 AM
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Theirs a limit but no the 5’7 guy probably won’t be doing better then the 6’4 guy unless there’s other compiling issues on top of this. Mr. 6’4 would need to be extremely ugly or too autistic to socialize at all For example, or the 5’7 guy is jacked and has a face of a model then things will be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:39 PM
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it's also, women who claim they find 1 men attractive every few month. The guys you describe have horrid personalities. again we have countless examples of guys who really should be incels but aren't due to being attractive. And also examples of guys who do everything right by the blue pilled book but are incels. nice feminist, correct think men are overlooked consistently when they don't have the traits that actually are able to open said door. or as you as you said most men don't have horrid p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:40 AM
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The guy could focus on compatibility or he can be a superficial attention whore, wondering why women who care about morals dont want his attention whoring ass Again the stuff that only matters once your in the door. Guys like the ones you described keep hearing how women say they wish they could find SOMEONE LIKE THEM but NOT THEM aka he has the personality but lacks the looks and status
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:11 AM
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If you want your moral character to matter you first need some other trait that makes you attractive first and foremost. something needs to grab someone’s attention before you can sell a product, as without the hook, and I mean that as in without someone wanting to give you there time romantically, you won’t be selling shit, even if the product itself is good, companies pay a very large sum on advertising for a reason. if you lack the looks and status then no one really cares to get to know your…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:21 AM
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Rapist and women beaters are getting girlfriends while there’s a male loneliness epidemic going on that affects liberals more then conservatives I’ll add. Blue pillars can never answer this, as it goes against your just world
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:12 AM
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It doesn’t matter what they claim if there actions show the opposit. Mr. bad personality continues to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:56 PM
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Guessing this is cause of the discussion we had earlier. The group you need to be calling out is blue pillers. They’re the ones who keep claiming the male excessive just world. Here’s the real issue: most men are not abusers. Tell this to blue pillars here especially blue pilled women. Also, most men also do not spend their time victim blaming abuse victims, resenting women, or treating basic decency like a service that should be rewarded with sex. “I’ve never hit a woman” does not make you unus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:52 PM
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Where? They say alot of men lie about being good men and they're assholes too. More just world nonsense, however thankfully after this election many are becoming more inclined theses days to actually believe the ppl who had these experiences over the ppl who don’t and are just tryna insert their selfs into a situation. Example being you’d trust someone in Ukraine over the events happening there more then you’d trust a random America saying talking points about Ukraine events, especially and most…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:30 PM
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You guys cant even explain what they believe in. Also, you're changing the topic. The blue pill explains it for us there left leaning feminists that’s the ideology pretty simple. Give an example. Dont just claim shit,. give an example. If that is so common, you can find something for me to look at. You haven’t backup any of your claims btw. You just said trust the just world is all we need. https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-lefts-marriage-problem-fewer-liberals-marry-and-liberal-teens-are-giving-up…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:44 PM
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You guys use that as an excuse to not work on yourselves. Most of you dont have pretty privilege and will never have it. again Lilith this whole process you described is known as the red pill. This is what I'm talking about, most of you will never be hot enough to convince women to tolerate misogyny. You guys think being a 5/10 will be enough, but that requires 8/10 looks to pull off. Then there should be basically no liberal incels if what all you need is personality to succeed, not only is you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:46 PM
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Instead of simply not being a red flag, you guys envy Jeremy Meeks because he made his red flags not matter. You guys can't accept that Meeks is extremely rare and none of your will ever be that hot. what you don’t seem to understand is that lacking too much in the looks and status department is the red flag, and not lacking the right politics or even being misogynistic or whatever you wanna place here in terms of morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:46 AM
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Projection. That's why men dont do well on a=dating apps. They want to rely on looks and nothing else. When attractive criminals consistently do better then average men even when said man has all the “correct“ blue pilled feminist beliefs, you do start to wonder the actually value of these other traits. And before you claim your obligatory Most of you will never be Chad, so just do the blue pilled method, ill again point out that the blue pill doesnt work unless the man in question has more impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:43 AM
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When you have nothing else to offer. then it’s indeed funny that the people claim this are the goes silent when you ask how it’s even possible for the guy with the “right” beliefs and ”right” politics are still ending up incels. Remainder that we have more leftist incels then right wing ones, which should be possible if all your blue pilled women judge on personality bullshit was actually real.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:34 AM
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Your grasping at straws cause the above don’t fit your male exclusive just world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:22 AM
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oh no. you're under attack 🤣 why do you need to be a victim so badly? no one did anything to you. many men in gen z are adopting the ideology of we can help everyone or im not interested in a one side transaction at my own expense. you never had any incentive to help women. you never cared about them. It’s the other way around when it comes to feminist and leftist points which again is why gen z feels so isolates. 3 die every single day at the hands of their partners and you want us to do what f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:11 PM
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that doesn't anwser why she was horny with previous partners, but suddenly seemly become almost a sexual with the settle down guy. there also the fact that men don't usually like super promiscuous women generally while women prefer to incel/ virgin shame instead. This also compiles with all the fact that a men has to bring alot to the table inorder to be promiscuous in the first place, and such a rare men is valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:48 PM
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the claim is that feminism is for everyone as it aims to help everyone. this is often used as an attack on men's right groups or male centric places. you're not owed women's activism. then why lie firstly and secondly what incentives do men have to help out women theses days and follow feminist ideologies, when the favor will not be returned and when they never cared for what happens to them at best, and actively are against them at worst. as for dismantling patriarchy, I'm afraid you're beating…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:31 PM
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another point other then the election (which I mean your making my point here) is that many feminist in general do attack tradwifes for still being slaves to the patriarchy in there eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:42 PM
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the issue is that this leaves out societies expection of men needed to purse men and be a bit pushy at times. many women actually do want to access that a men is dominant and can Chase what he wants. so at times this ends up being a shit test where the women expects the dynamic just out the bases of how there attraction works. Yet at other times she doesn't want you near her at all. the problem then is that this is that women are generally piss poor at communicating whether or not there the type…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:38 PM
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of course more schrodinger's feminism is for all genders. why do you people lie that feminist is an all encompassing gender movement then turn around and claim that men are on there own when it comes to their problems. the partarichy is bad it hurts men to that's why we need to eliminate it they claim. only for them to pull a you arent a real men if you don't follow your partarichical standards and also a misogynist if you expect to follow mine. demand everything and give nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:25 PM
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I mean actually he isn't a representative of all manosphere now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:21 PM
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I've been saying a healthy relationship needs to be reciprocal for awhile now but that seems to angry many women in here. the mere mention of so what do you offer him is seen as a personal attack and an unfathomable amount of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:13 PM
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Choice feminism is the belief that any choice a woman makes is inherently feminist simply because she chose it. It centers on individual agency and personal empowerment, asserting that no decision should be judged, whether a woman pursues a traditional lifestyle or a progressive career." oh ya... feminist definitely aren't following through with this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:07 PM
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feminist also by and large still look for men with traits that would make them good paychecks and body guards. many men have discovered that the anti gender role crowd was never for them but was actually only for women. again if all these traits women swear make guys attractive actually did we have a very different dating landscape then we do now and less complains from both ends, buy as it stands not many many of the men with the traits you listed are incels, or waiting for there chance to be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:06 PM
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they are when it fits the feminist agenda and not when it doesn't. schrodinger's women actually are a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:12 PM
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uh... about that dating app data has been proving a small minority of the same guys are getting the vast majority of all swipes. and it been like this for well over a decade now. Maybe for casual sex but if the woman is looking for a relationship, it’s going to be humiliation and heartbreak on repeat for her You just described most of the men are trash and unfaithful crowd. so yes this is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:40 AM
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truly undesirable people do that I Mean if where talking dating apps then this is pretty blatantly almost all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:36 AM
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I large chunk of those guys don't give a shit since they already will get what there looking for regardless of there morals. the another chunk treats women well by are having the classic just world bullshit thrown at there faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:22 AM
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does this logic mean that women who think that most women are hot are lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:16 AM
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This already happens it’s called the betabux it just happens later in life after chads gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:04 AM
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Responsibility, loyalty, stability are extremely important factors in choosing a partner. But so is chemistry, social skills and yes someone you are attracted to My question then is why leave out the concerning number of women who bring nothing to to the table. buyt have endless demands of men. Also I find it absolutely hilarious that you just reworded hypergamy in a way that the blue pillers in here are ok with and would even pat you on the back for just cause you reframed it as men bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:03 AM
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No one has ever claimed that however the women are wonderful effect and general female bias are observable all through out our culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:38 AM
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you swamped the genders and the ideology there what your really looking for is feminism and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:44 AM
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I mean the idea that it's this lopsided is redpilled at best and the rule 6 group at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:49 PM
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That nice and all but it won’t suddenly make the unwanted men hot. Women already swipe right on what is it now 5-10% of guys as is. So all a state owned app will accomplish would be exponentially driving up the body counts of chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:16 AM
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How many men where red pilled 20 years ago, how many are redpilled today? ill give you the answer not enough for the views to be considered mainstream, the reason male loneliness is here is cause men kept listening to the wrong blue pilled advice. plus social media making it easier then ever for chads to sleep around. the statement you should be saying is that 20 years ago feminist claimed that all masculinity was toxic, and that more emotional feminst considerate guys were what’s actually attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:01 AM
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Women are much more likely to be attacked by there male partners then a random incel walking down the streets. however the media would make you feel like it’s the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:48 AM
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You still dont understand that attractive people are attractive? I’m not part of the group of people who denies this exists btw put your attention on blue pillers. If attractive guys get treated better and it’s not based on the heart or whatever blue pilled values many in here swear is happening the question then becomes how does one actually be come hot. if the anwser to that question is yes then one becomes red pilled. If the anwser is no and give up or that it’s hopeless then one becomes that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:45 AM
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Alright explain then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:40 PM
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Your basically making it sound like men force this kind of media onto women and the only push back is from other women…. and then you add that cause women can have what some would claim are degenerate hobbies and still date easier then there male counterparts doing the same thing, that men’s media is bad and women’s isn’t Is that your claim now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:35 PM
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Places like Reddit can echo what’s said in Society and mainstream media often. many guys will tell you how they are treated from there own anecdote experiences, or at best when women insult these guys maybe they just add the caveat that he’s one of the “good” incels or something. Also with how big and integral online interactions are with many people excluding it from society doesn’t make any sense it is a part of our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:27 PM
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You’re still making the same unsupported claim. You keep saying men are labeled creepy, evil, and moral failures simply for being sexually unsuccessful, but you haven’t shown that’s actually what’s happening. there are tons of place like even just here on Reddit where if a male vents about his lack of dating successes he’s immediately labeled a misogynistic, showerless, women beater who voted trump into office or something and not for any factor thats outside his control for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:18 PM
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Blue pillers like yourself keep claiming this but have no answer about why the taller wealthier guy with the same or even worse believes and statements is still never without women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:12 PM
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I think you’ve got the cause and effect backwards. Men aren’t criticized because they’re sexually unsuccessful. They’re criticized when they turn that frustration into resentment and start treating women like they owe them something. THIS is what you got backwards, men are labeled creepy, moral failures, and out right evil individuals for being sexually unsuccessful. which can often lead to the bitterness not the other way around. Im guessing that this doesn’t fit your blue pilled male exclusive…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:53 PM
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still thats mostly due to conservative ideas, and not cause feminist and leftist are fighting against degenerative content. Theres no push to have body positive men in shows like love island or the such like there trying to push body positive women into gaming if you need an example. So while we hear endless screams about objectifying women and harmful unrealistic standards targeted at women, these people have nothing to say about the 6’5 ripped diamond cutting jawline billionaire archetype in w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:33 PM
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Your description of him sounds like he’s above average, not the guy most women other then that one particular friend would rank a 4 in looks anyways. too be fair the picture you painted of this dude in my head is rather vague so I can’t conclude anything. either way even if this guy isn’t secretly Chad, then your situation does sound like an exceptionally rare outlier as most women don’t think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:28 PM
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You people say this and then clown on the rule 6 people. your basically confirming that they where right this whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:01 PM
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Ok…. and consent isn’t based on your morality more attractive and taller men will still get consent for acting the same or often times even worse then shorter less attractive counter parts. That’s the whole argument here, which you seem to not understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:00 PM
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its in fact YOU who has it backwards classic cart before horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:55 PM
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<image> well looks like were posting this shit again. Here we have the usual. Life isn’t fair and there is no just world, lets not pretend that the standards are the exact same for everyone. plenty of nice blue pilled feminist men are friendzoned incels, while the misogynist women beater is never without options. After seeing this men get hit with it’s your personality and just treat women like humans as if all problems ever stem from solely moral issues on the men’s end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:54 PM
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Fixing society if the cost is giving lower tier men a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:47 PM
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You dated an ugly men whose broke and only brings the heart to the table and nothing else really?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:45 PM
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Women by and large dont care about that, your an exception not the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:36 PM
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Most women would view this subjugation, and a violation of there rights. You can’t force these women to suddenly become inclusive with there attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:35 PM
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As women get wealthier they start to view men in lower tax brackets as pathetic generally speaking. Unfortunately, the down with the patriarchy, down with gender roles people aren’t actually nearly as open as they portray themselves. Meanwhile the greediest and richest men who actually control this so called patriarchy also remain some of the most attractive and sought out individuals by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:55 PM
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I agree however when we ask women about this they suddenly get ick. Many would rather chase and potentially be single or often end up sharing the ever dwindling supply of “real men” in a higher taxes bracket then them, all while also whining about the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:48 PM
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The blue pill is what failed men first otherwise we’d have no red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:38 PM
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I see no issue with women being involved in men’s issues. Why is the societal message Always about men going put of there way to help or make situations better or more comfortable for them women but never the other way around. if men truly are owed nothing from women why then are the women in question owed something from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:34 PM
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Strawman, all the guy above claimed is that the just world doesn’t exist around sex (or in general)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:24 PM
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Yes that is what we call the blue pill In short.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:14 AM
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Yet no women wants a guy who brings only the blue pilled definition of personality and not the aforementioned, I pointed out above.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:37 AM
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True. There is a bar. For both looks and personality. Most men fail at the personality bar. The bar is mostly for looks and status pass those other factors only start to matter a bit, after this is met, and if you score expectional well in them then they dont matter at all. that's why guys like Trump or Ted bundy aren't incels but the kind feminist but bald and short guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:40 AM
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it's just true minus the very very attractive guys, women don't want men making less then them. no amount of self reflection on the guys end will suddenly change up women's standards. you ethier meet the bar or be content being single are the options.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:19 AM
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many liberal women are still demanding provider men. and the few that aren't will even find that dating guys within there tax bracket to be quite difficult, as more and more women are moving up in status compared to men. being a sahm, isn't the only reason women care about money is the thing, and again the supply is shrinking and the demand is staying the same or growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:13 AM
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Men also need to stop treating a corporate title as the only path to becoming valuable. I agree with everything else but I feel like this is again mostly a question towards women's standards, are women themselves open to guys making less is the really question. with the expection status or being Chad are women really ok with men find different paths if not the chance will have to start with them. Or singleness will only continue to grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:07 AM
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how many women actually want house husbands come on now. and even with the very very few who are ok with, would still probably only be ok with this arrangement if the guy was Chad. this is statistical anomaly so rare, that most men should just forget it exists. women DO NOT Want this arrangement the very though of a house husband will give them the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:02 AM
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the only exception to this ofc is physical attractiveness (without talking about settling) which most men aren't according to women anyways. that's why this is one of the biggest factors in loneliness growing. otherwise the situation you present is a crazy statistical anomaly. that basically no men should expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:48 AM
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Anyway. Lots of women will happily date the guys that aren't completely obsessed with the power dynamic in a relationship based on money. with the expection of Chad which most guys arent, women actually don't like this dynamic all that much. As women continue to do better then men financially less and less of them appear attractive collectively to the women just hypergamy 101. of course this is there decision but the math dictates that if there are more women moving up the financial food chain y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:44 AM
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your correct however you left out that you can be kind but passive and that's what will make a men struggle to date (minus the chads ofc) while guys who are pieces of shit but assertive (plus physically and financially hot) won't have that problem. meaning assertiveness is what moves the needle not kindness like many swear it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:29 AM
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it's this plus looks and status those are things that actually build a women's attraction however you can have all the listed improtant traits while being a piece of shit, and the end result will still be you do great with women. while guys who are kind, loyal and respectful but lack the more improtant traits will probably be a beta in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:21 AM
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When* auto correct my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:39 AM
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ya thats pretty much the difference, men will date down for sex but women wont. and women will date up and immediately give sex if they believe that it will win the hot guy over especially if she senses that her competition would give it quickly as well. we can then talk about the guys who dont act like this but there usually to unattractive for her standards or ironically pull a page from the womens play book and never settle meaning chad grabs stacy and leave the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:02 AM
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the part that shes not mentioning is that women mostly do not want the guys who most likely to take things slow and build commitment. while the attractive and wealth dont need to think like this and even when they do they end up as picky as women meaning that the average girls are excluded usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:54 AM
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most men want both, is the thing but often will get them at different times if possible. many women are them upset that just cause the hot guy fucked them (and also 10 other women recently) he wont ncessary commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:47 AM
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i think the biggest part and also the anwser to most of womens frustration with dating is that while this passively and selectiveness does rewards them it mostly just rewards then with the best genetics and not the best fathers or faithful reciprocating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:42 AM
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so what do you tell men when the blue pill doesnt work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:27 AM
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Gather around class, this is how to directly answer a question. Active=acting, Passive=not acting you said the other dude was vague then answered the question so vaguely that even a group of seasoned polications would need to shed a tear over while giving you a standing ovation. What exactly is acting? You just brushed over the whole concept of what it then went back to critiquing this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:26 AM
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someones never seen a femcel sub
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:17 AM
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when a women complains about that they cheered on for having standrads and knowing her worth. when a men conolains about this he gets labbeled a contrilling misogynist who isnt a re men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:16 AM
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YOU SAID “ Acknowledging that this is how the world works is.tne redpill btw, that's why redpill basically says morals are irrelevant” and thats dumb In terms of attraction are are indeed much less relevant then blue pills claim them to be yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:34 PM
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honestly I agree with 95% of this one. This was a mostly good post. Whoever I will add that the action of having friends in and of itself doesn’t suddenly make some one attractive if they where lacking before. Which brings us back to the dreaded girl says I wish I could find someone LIKE you claims which is basically short for the guy being ugly. however everyone really really should have ffiends it will improve your life even outside of dating. So while yes it guarantees nothing in the form of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:16 PM
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No Lilith we’ve been through this many are upset that being an asshole or not is irrelevant in the first place while being told all they have to do is “show the heart” bs. Again the idea that morals matter much less then attractiveness is redpilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:52 AM
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Feels like your strawmaning the post. what I claimed is that being a nice blue pilled men doesn’t affect one’s attractiveness, which blue pilled adjecent people swear it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:49 AM
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it's not my that you don't understand your own aurgement here and are back tracking now. but hey you do you. in the meanwhile I'll just say things like they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:04 PM
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Again it's only ironic if you can prove that redpill itself is inherently anti trans. I'm repeating myself here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:35 PM
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then how is matrix being made by a transwomen the gotcha you think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:16 PM
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Stay on topic. you were the one who brought up the marrtix being made by a transwomen. Please remember to follow your own advice next time. If you don't see the irony. That's fine. Again it's only ironic if you cab prove that redpill itself is inherently anti trans.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:08 PM
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I mean while I can of see your point, I'll ask are the women in the example I've given really working to make men more attractive to them or are they just throwing demands and shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:52 PM
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many so called blue pilled guys are ethier single or in a beatbux situation. I don't see how the marritrix being written by a transwomen is ironic where in the redpill did you hear that they are anti trans.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:47 PM
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Let me be clear, manosphere content is wrong some of it is but it makes sense for men to go there when the other side is telling them shit thats even worse, as in more adjectively false. you also missed the part where if the whole blue pilled treat women like humans stick worked we'd never have the redpill in the first place. it exists because many men with the "right" beliefs and the "right" politics still find themselves single while the must misogynist pieces of shit are somehow always seeing…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:29 PM
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ya said it was manosphere but you didn't say it was wrong many men end up down that pipeline when the alternative blue pilled methods aren't working.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:19 PM
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Most of you arent exceptional enough to be rulebreakers. Get over it, Acknowledging that this is how the world works is the redpill btw, that's why redpill basically says morals are irrelevant just become attractive that's all. That’s for other people to decide. Not for him to decide. It doesn’t matter if he says he’s a good person, other people have to believe he’s a good person. in many case other people do claim that the guys are nice people indeed. However this still doesn't make a man attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:02 PM
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You guys are honestly upset that you you have to suffer massive consequences for being an asshole, like everyone else. I don’t know what makes you guys think that is sympathetic. nope incorrect yet again Lilith. Their sad that what they been told works and what actually works are too different things. it's not just that attractive men get treated better and the men have been gaslit on there about personality only mattering. Its also that on top of this many men with the personality, are still ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:33 PM
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people who want the truth is who cares. the very idea that dating isn't a fair game for everyone is how we get things ike the redpill in the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:25 PM
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remember the other side claims that the expections do not exist. in the first place also being upset that other have just been fortunate enough to pull a better lot in life is understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:18 PM
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many are single for reasons outside they control. like looks status or just having a disability to name a few obvious ones. also the same behaviors done by a men different men will be interpreted differently by the same group of people. what's viewed as creepy and weird for one men will be viewed as quirky and endearing if done by a more attractive men. many guys try to live by the blue pilled book only to still find themselves unsuccessful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:08 PM
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Men don't want to admit that their thoughts, beliefs, and actions are ruining their chances at relationships. women don't wanna admit how life is unfair and many many immutable characteristics are also held against men. The game is infact rigged there is no just world. this also leaves out that 2 people can act almost identically and still have vastly different dating lifes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:56 PM
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I mean I agree but the part that gets left out is the idea is that this gets pushed equality if not more so pushed by women themselves. They are for some reason venomous when women are not mind readers and have bad experience with men. They bitterly say that women supposed to have intuition and x-ray vision to see who is good who is bad. that's blue pills fault. When every struggling guy is told nonsense that women can sense the misogyny you hold within you before you've even talked to them and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:53 PM
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And you think this is unfair to the men, who can just work hard to be good at something? TBF most men will never be good enough at something of merit, to be treated as such in the first place. meaning the majority are worse off then women. also pretty privilege verifiably exists for men as well two. taller men for example are more likely to get promoted over there shorter counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:53 AM
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also no evidence you provided shows that men are picker then women. and actually shows the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:22 PM
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she got fuck zoned the female version of the friend zone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:05 PM
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if you hate helping ppl so much might be time to pick another career. there bud. also my guess is that your also naturally way nicer and give more excuses to women who need help... theres also usually just more men at gyms then women so your sample size is bias
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:24 PM
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You haven’t meet Lilith then are you very new to this sub by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:20 AM
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Was the ex the guy who gave her the child was was the ex in this case the step father cause those are 2 different scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:16 AM
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unfortunately listening to women and seeing the difference in what they do compared to what they say is what gets men redpilled in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:05 AM
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yes and modern western society is all about blaming men for anything and everything where does that lead us?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:29 AM
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legit got into an argument with a women on here that said claiming all men are evil is just cause they share the same genitals and therefore must be violent. eventhough I claimed that this is no different then say a racist profiling all black people as the same due to a bad experience. the whole argument is was then them basically claiming "ya see its different cause blacks are appressed so making bigoted blanket statements about them is wrong and making but making blanket bigot statements again…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:54 AM
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things like looks and status and charisma do. if you have those a couple of anti feminist talking points here and there don’t matter. Actually it never really mattered in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:56 AM
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Like if a woman has high standards and finds a man = he’s a player who only looks to sleep around but if she goes for what society dictates to be a below average man = he’s a good guy and is interested in a genuine relationship Not entirely ofc however theres way to many single moms for this not to hold some weight and when guys like Elon musk gets 12 or so bady mommas you do start to question where women’s standards are leading them, basically we have enough evidence to prove that plenty of top…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:51 AM
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It’s not an opinion its data swipe statistics have been proving evidence toward the women are hypergamous claims for awhile now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:24 AM
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Standards aren’t too high or unrealistic if one can consistently attract people they seek. For women it’s mostly who wants to marry them or atleast wants to be in a long term relationship with them. the issue is women keep telling themselves that whoevers willing to sleep with her is thus her league. This usually doesn’t work out for her. as many top guys will date down for easy sex. Ultimately the dating market sorts itself out. Pursue whoever you want. If you succeed, great. If you don’t, eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:55 PM
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are you asking how matches work or something? Anyways I’m already aware that you will not find dating app data that claims that men are hypergamous and not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:54 PM
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ok here ya go, article has an amazing name btw. https://preview.redd.it/buafv7i0qgeh1.jpeg?width=1261&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19e9cd4bad1fe622528cc28347e82244feef825c https://goonlife.com/blog/tinder-match-rate-gender-5-percent-statistic/ Now, with that being said you keep claiming that it’s men who are hypergamous what sources do you have that backs up your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:41 PM
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Yes, that women don't want lazy bums for partners who expect women to clean up after them. Yeah, so why don't men do it? Because they're lazy and it's an unpaid chore that requires work Im saying the men who do often dont get picked in the first place, it doesn’t make him attractive not when women care about several dozen standards that are more important, and sometimes even end up excluding things like chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:33 PM
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90% of women YOU WANT goes to the same 10%. Lower your standards. Nope of all the women on the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:30 PM
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That says alot about the types of women you want. Lower your standards. I mean its pretty much verified to be nearly every women at this point and the app data backs this up as well. Meaning that no lowering ones standards doesn't do much of anything as plenty of guys are swiping on anyone and everyone as is, and then still not succeeding. So it has nothing to do with Chad, it's the gender imbalance in in dating apps. it's both again 90%ish of women's attention goes to the same 10%ish of guys so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:59 PM
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Chad is not your competition unless you make him so. and how do you suppose the other bottom 90% of guys do with the 10% of women not sharing Chad then. There competition to the average guy due to the sheer volume of women that there taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:47 PM
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Nope I’m saying that as long as chads are on the apps and willing to pump and dump, the women will compare the options and simply choose chads. Most guys not being chad is completely irrelevant point here. not when studies show that like 10% of men or whatever it is now are getting 90% of women’s attention. so more women seeing and thus swipe left on your profile means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:24 PM
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This argument completely dies off when we point out there they are tons of dating app experiments where a women manages a men’s profile, takes new pictures rewrites the bio and STILL cant get matches. coincidentally we also have experiments where where someone grabs a few random photos of Chad writes that he’s an ex convict rapist and still gets hundreds if not thousands of likes and match within a few days.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:17 PM
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If anything it’s more likely for the women to be wwaaayy lazier then the guy at the start of the relationship. Also if you hate men so much just don’t date its that easy. If men could collectively do more chores and childcare and become less of a liability to women, men would raise their value as partners. If these are the guys getting picked instead of the ones who do end up doing chores. that says a lot more about women’s choices. Basically if doing dishes made women wet in the first place we’…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:11 PM
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That’s all mostly irrelevant as long as the guy is also competing with chads on the app. Boosting does little when women are just a few swipes away from someone taller, richer and with a better jawline.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:06 PM
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No you literally described men as diabolical. Having a standard doesn’t exempt him from being criticized for that standard. Men criticize women all the time for any standard that women have. I criticized nothing but claimed that if women are free to have there standards then men are free for there’s. just like OP for example isn’t wrong for having a looks requirement for her causal sex. the men having their standards for causal or relationship isn’t wrong either. For example, you criticize a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:29 PM
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Nope, I never claimed any of this my only argument is that if men aren’t owed anything then so aren’t women. if a men has a standard where he may want sex fairly quickly he’s allow to have it. Just like you’d argue for women. further more women aren’t owed relationships with Chad just cause she willing opened her legs quickly for him. Men go so far as to coerce random women online to have sex with random men via guilt trips and fear mongering/ threatening that the good man will leave. coincident…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:56 PM
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You might just be closeted who knows, or just asexual. Nothing wrong with btw but you’ll need to come to terms with it on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:43 PM
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i have no clue what your trying to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:34 PM
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The narrative is even “land whales” can get easy casual sex from men but probably wouldn’t be getting commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:50 PM
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Fair enough don’t do it then, but just keep it consistent what a guy doesn’t wanna hear is that now that she’s finished “discovering“ herself she suddenly wants to be near asexual with you this time around. We already are all aware that the problem is that the few guys you find hot are probably the same few guys every women finds hot and therefore they have zero incentive to commit to you, and will be playing the field. anyways a gender flipped version of this post probably won’t go do well. the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:38 PM
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No it’s that pretty privilege is real and assholes get there issues overlooked all the time. all while blue pilled and blue pilled adjacent people scramble to invent and attach a personality flaw to the struggling guy in order for them to still look morally superior In end. When actually rejecting them for much more shallow reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:59 PM
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And when you have shit looks and status personality surprisedly isn’t important
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:47 PM
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thats cause its mostly true, scoring sufficiently in looks and status is what will get you into the door in the first place, without it starting a romantic relationship with a women will be next to impossible (unless you wanna count the beta bux as such). technically the firend zone guy does get to show his personality to women but they still dont want him due to lacking the above, and thus he will struggle when it comes to communicating said personality in a romantic way as no women wants to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:43 PM
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why are women both impowered for there decisions yet at the same time have zero agency over the events of there lives. if you don't want kids, use protection, move to a state or country where abortions allowed, or simply don't have sex all of that is within the women's control.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:23 PM
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ironically we've tried this but many feminist have fought against such an idea for reasons that are beyond my understanding. many places made it legit made it illegal to have men's only gyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:14 PM
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Shit like this is exactly what corrupts the word misandry. You all want us to take it seriously but continue to misapply it. The irony of this when it’s actually misogyny that’s used as a scapegoat so any and all bad female actions. a great example is anymore who claimed someone like amber heard wasn’t a great person was immediately labbed as such. in contrast most people don’t know what misandrist is which is by design. i can also point to feminist trying to changing the definition of rape to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:26 PM
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ok here we go. misandrist like yourself are sadly what’s wrong with society. I've never seen an article like that Aka I’ve never never bothered to look so it’s never happened Even if they did exist those are extremist opinion pieces You could use this argument against all misogyny and racists etc. as most don’t hold outright extremist Values, nor are they in a position of power where they can enact this. Believing a man isn't fit to date you is not the same thing as believing men are beneath the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:11 PM
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Women choosing careers that require a degree ≠ women believing that they are superior to men. now that women are graduating at higher rates then men and often making more then men there are tons of leftist articles out there claiming that men are financial losers unfit to date. a bit larger since you didn’t read.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:52 PM
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Bigotry requires the bigot to believe they are superior. ok the goal post moves again a bit, but I’ll follow it anyways. now that women are graduating at higher rates then men and often making more then men there are tons of leftist articles out there claiming that men are financial losers unfit to date, as they can no longer compare to the women’s income or at least earning potential. Now you have the superiority complex you were looking for and thus this is bigotry, even by your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:43 PM
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this is circular again your look for any excuse possible to be as bigoted as you can against the “correct” group. unfortunately the perfect example of why people are leaving the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:34 PM
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Any and all. Just don’t be surprised if the people you want many have preferences that don’t include you. Which doesn’t make them evil btw, just like your preferences don’t make you evil. then afterwards don’t lie in order to virtue signal that your the “good guys” unlike evil men as well, most of you are shallow as well and it’s ok. also criticism will always be around like with most things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:28 AM
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Black racist people discussing past traumatic experiences at the hands of white a minority people is, in fact, not hatred and bigotry. technically added 3 words by the point still stands. Again. It is super weird you would even think that. You just want victims to shut up Anyways your straw manning the argument now, the problem isn’t victims speaking up against abuse it’s blaming the whole group of people said victim seeming belongs to as evil due to side experience. Otherwise you like the racis…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:08 AM
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Honestly it's wild how stubborn men leftist are. This isn't a competition. Women rasicts discussing past experiences isn't hatred and bigotry. Again 2 words. See how it sounds. But again it ok when you all do it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:37 AM
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edited above. anyways again your claiming so called power imbalance so that you can continue being hateful and bigoted while still appearing like your the "good guys" Even though I can take many of your claims change 1 or 2 words only so that it applies to some other group and suddenly it becomes the most bigoted shit ever. everything else after that is trying to rationalize the "It's ok when I do it part" if they where truly consistent they wouldn't be holding immutable characteristics over any…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:29 AM
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Except men aren't a minority. You have it flipped. It's more akin to black people not trusting white people. It's a wrong point of comparison. No no no ya see I'm a bigot with only the CORRECT PEOPLE so everything's OK. at the end of the day it's the same mindset many leftist just hate when that mirror gets held up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:17 AM
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chivalry existed due to women having less right no money of there etc. now that times have changed is and women seemingly swear that gender roles are a thing of the past (or probably only there's) in that case we should be able to move past it. especially for someone with your flair Id add. not even hating but I will point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:13 AM
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racists also claim this when there talking about whatever race they feeling like hating. since quite a few of them have had a bad experience with a minority they believe that they should also be able to vent there trauma and aren't looking for you to scapegoat there problems or experiences ethier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:03 AM
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misogynist groups are still rather fringed and atleast a bit underground. however the reason they are growing is because of the blatant and often times encouraged misandry thats being pushed by mainstream media over the past 10-15 years if not more.​
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:57 AM
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simply want nothing to do with her?" Nah, don't buy that shit. If she hits on him and he says no, her feelings might be hurt, but again "very few people would criticize you." not everyone takes rejection gracefully. Again you'll be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:49 AM
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ok fair, they often do but compared to the work that others have to do it starts to seem unfair. or as red pill puts it rules are for betas not alphas, meaning while some guys need to compete 100 different objectives just for an opportunity while others have to competely only 1 or 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:33 PM
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One thing I often hear from red pill men is that women would throw away their morals or standards to sleep with a man if he were attractive enough. Ironically, that's a stereotype that describes male sexuality far more often than female sexuality. A man's appearance doesn't tell me whether he'll be a good sexual partner. I need much more information than that. Is he respectful? Does he listen? Is he emotionally intelligent? Does he care about his partner's experience? Physical attraction gets hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:07 PM
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But we are just not lustful or drooling over these guys because we have discernment and self control and we are more logical about who or if we approach anyone If you see some of the guys who are getting consistenly choosing signals from women you’d know that all logic has already been thrown out the window. also women are lustful to the hot guys. and no it’s in no way the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:53 PM
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cause it’s not always attainable when other dudes just have to exist and show up it does start to seem unfair. If your argument is life isn’t fair in general I agree with you which moves us into redpilled territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:38 PM
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and... personality doesn't matter unless it's backed by something else that's improtant we've been through this. which leads us back to be attractive don't be unattractive. Hence what someone should be aiming for is to be as physically and financially as an attractive as possible in order to improve there chances that’s the red pill. and look at that i already touched on this above. you also haven't addressed how your projecting women's behavior onto men. most of your complaints are women coded …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:09 PM
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And very few people would criticize you for turning down a single mother with tons of debt and mental health issues your gonna be very surprised then. Many women indeed act like this usually when the tall attractive and wealthly guy doesn't commit or simply wants nothing to do with her. and ofc she gets to know her worth and demand fit, tall, rich good jawline etc, while any and all male standards are misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:01 PM
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He was a drug addicted jackass. If you think that's not a personality problem, then it is certainly a behavioral problem. It is a behavioural problem but it doesn’t make one single if there hot and/or successful you even pointed this out yourself. Hence what someone should be aiming for is to be as physically and financially as an attractive as possible in order to improve there chances that’s the red pill. Because shallow women want him. You wanting shallow women is a personal problem. Again wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:21 PM
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His value to the production outweighed the problems he caused until it didn’t. That does not prove personality is irrelevant. It proves that people tolerate serious flaws when someone offers enough value in return. Correct and if you don’t bring value elsewhere then no one gives a shit about your personality in the first place. you Keep mentioning this but the other side of the coin is nice feminist men who gets to be an incel cause there too ugly/boring or just otherwise low in status. The men …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:17 PM
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reminder that's theres also nothing put into place in modern society that's the same on the other side of things. like we aren't going into women's media and trying to force shorter, balder or.more obese men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:22 AM
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below average women are busy screaming I know my worth and never settle. which leads them all to Chad and we know the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:10 AM
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that's a fair position as long as you also agree that the top men also don't owe women relationships that's the thing that gets left out. however many women love to police men over what they should or should not expect then cry misogynistic at the first sign of something that could even possibly be misinterpreted as ​critique against theirs. it's a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:02 AM
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only for them to go back to female centric media where they still have unrealistic standards for men. Ever realized that theres a noticable lack of obese 5'3 bald men in women shows and novels for example. or how cookie cutter and similar the chad archetype is. only for them to complain and rush to change what's exceptable on the men's side of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:46 PM
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there are teenaged boys chugging roids and following people like clavicular
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:31 PM
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that's a lie many run to censor male centric media in hopes to changing the image of how women are precieved while bashing the men for consuming said media only to good back to female centric media where the men are all 6'5 and jacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:30 PM
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your getting women's behavior mixed up with men's on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:22 PM
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ok just don't lie about it by spewing blue pilled just world nonsense and tell men the truth then. afterwards don't be hypocrital by trying to police men's standards, all under the guise that unlike evil people we women are the virtuous ad morally correct gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:31 PM
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Slutty ugly girl gives easy pussy, so she’s valuable. The fact a 10/10 wants her shows she can definitely do better with less attractive men. The rest just comes to her standards and her personality. Again women more often then not don't view it this way otherwise there would be zero complaints from there end. We know this isn't true and there are multiple complaints about unfaithfuls and pumping dumping and ghosting after sex a couple of times or even just once. women would be happy, and say no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:17 PM
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Why are you guys treating obvious facts as a new revelation you came up with? Why is the fact that chad will have sex with average to below average women and not offer commitment seen as a crazy revelation then? so she wants Chad You guys only being around women who want Chad is your problem. this is just most women which is there prerogative ofc, don't get me wrong. However just a simple look at how supply and demand works dictates that most of these women will ethier lose out completely or jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:31 PM
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You guys really just don’t like acknowledging the way you find ugly are actually desirable to other men. So now you’re just making up weird definitions of leverage. the women in question doesn't want other men though that's below her worth, as she claims. so she wants Chad, and Chad has leverage that's the thing. so while your right women by and large do have leverage its different when it comes to who they actually want to date. Oh, so we’re pretending men dont find women who fuck them by date …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:47 PM
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If a woman is able to get a 10/10, she has leverage. Not really the real person with leverage is the one with the least to lose and the one who can walk after the quickest which in these situations it’s always Chad. Oh, the women in question ethier won’t fuck after dates 1-2 if not immediately after saying hi, then the chad in question will just stand up and get someone who will, because he probably can. This is precisely the leverage I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:55 AM
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"Intuitive when it comes to determining whether someone is authentic". I'm speaking specifically about their ability to sense a man's intentions. Say what you want; chads are authentic. many of the women in this situation seem to believe there getting commitment after the sex from the Chad, when they arent that sounds like the supposed intuition missing the mark if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:33 AM
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Because a lot of single men only view other women through the narrow lens of where she fits in his dating hierarchy, she becomes only an object; a means to an end for sex or a date. You’ll be very surprised to then to hear that this is often how men are viewed. Ethier that or men are simps meant for emotional support, wallets or just some sort of utility that gets nothing in return from there services. Here's the kicker: Women are incredibly intuitive beings when it comes to determining whether …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:19 AM
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For example, guys keep explaining that average women have a legion of simps, always surrounded by men, always getting compliments for just existing, and she can treat guys like utter shit and still be able to get a man. most women do indeed have options and it’s usually way more then her male counterpart. This also leads to a lot of guys getting upset of ugly women thinking they’re too good for him. Well, this is where personality definitely matters. As I have said in a previous post, women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:38 PM
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The above means the red pill was right as well. Top men have always had substantial more partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:25 PM
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why many young men are running from leftist ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:55 AM
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I agree just that you missed the part where women start complaining after getting said cock from top guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:32 AM
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There actually is alot od truth to this body dysmorphia and a large uptake in steroid usage in even teenage boys, does drive alot of then over what’s the limit of what’s considered a more healthy bmi. The number of women doing this in comparison is extraordinary small as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:12 AM
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I mean we can fault them for lying and claiming that moral character is all that’s being judged in an attempt to shame less attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:07 AM
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A lot of them be getting neither is the thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:16 AM
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honesty I'm all for leading men who cannot date down a happier path that's the side of the one pill that breaks rules 6 that I agree with fully. however incel shaming needs to die first and same as more so blue pilled ideals where if a men fails to date its purely due to lacking morals need go as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:46 AM
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someone's never seen a femcel sub what do you mean only men bitch about there dating woes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:42 AM
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the truth goes against the blue pill so they aren't allowed to mention it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:01 AM
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Well that’s fucking depressing, I mean there probably a lot of truth in your claims but for all the women who do think like this probably neither shouldn’t date, or as many blue pillers love to say become gay (lesbian) I suppose. (even though that does have homophobic connotations apologies)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:18 PM
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I mean the number just make sense when you realize there's more older women then men (which is the only reason the singleness balances itself out btw). so alot of younger working men basically end up funding there retirement. I'm guessing this is where most of the tax discrepancy comes from. and your probably right that as more women get educated and as more of them stay single, because of this the numbers should reverse (or atleast it will be a women funding women thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:26 PM
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the left has yet to offer a better alternative to the manosphere, calling men trash and saying everything is our fault doesn't cut it, which is the biggest thing. also even with the grifters alot of what redpill claims is actually the true, and explains atleast some of the gaps that leftist spaces intentionally leaves out as the truth doesn't paint women as perfect angelic beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:13 PM
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brain chemicals tell you that cuddling feels nice or something is the reason. and also sex, having someone to talk too, feeling appreciated and desired in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:57 PM
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Chad can usually just date younger provided he doesn't suddenly get to fat and bald in his 30s. so if he wants there plenty of beer goggle women left for him. average to below average men cannot do this however and are often stuck with the single till its time to be a beta route.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:54 PM
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nah if your an unattractive men in your 20s your probably not doing to great in 30s ethier. money withstanding its more so that 30 year old single guys give up cause they know the only other option is to be the beta know that chads done with the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:39 PM
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technically bad is subjective and bad doesn't mean worse then a mans.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:24 PM
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who exactly is condemning women for not sleeping with players?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:20 PM
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the world is healing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:16 PM
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more men have opted out earlier and first a well is the thing after all mgtow is older then 4b
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:47 PM
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well then its a good thing all abusive, violent, corrupt and otherwise bad men are end up as incels..... wait a minute....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:46 PM
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The just world fallacy is blue pill 101
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:06 AM
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They do and it’s been happening for a long time with leftist groups body positivity etc. porn is bad what men see needs to be checked yadda yadda, you know how this works. and again they go back to women’s media and admire there 6’5 billion while complaining that men have unrealistic and harmful standards, and it’s the hypocrisy that irks a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:50 AM
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there's sadly some truth to this and it's already happening well expect for the few who don't give a fuck and happen to usually be the most dangerous individuals which leads us back to how we started this convo you've only succeeded in chasing away the good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:58 PM
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I doesnt only have to be assault, and mens fear of having HR called on them kicked out and banned from a public place or arrested because the women in question ethier grossly misinterpreted the situation or deliberately had malicious intentions is also just as valid as women's fear. Which is why I find it so funny that the men here in the comments are all like "either I am allowed to SA a woman or I won't say hello anymore" this is a strawman. Likewise we can sit here and claim women are complai…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:40 PM
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I mean your not wrong but this is the sort of thinking that leads to that one pill that breaks rule 6 here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:29 PM
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Or they just gave up and stop approaching altogether. Leaving women the ones who need to pursue, if they care about a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:25 PM
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consent is dependent on a variety of factors mostly starting with how physically attractive the men in question is, if he isn’t hot or clearly has status then it’s harrassment. keeping boundaries or being kind doesn’t automatically mean that the women will be respectful back, just like politely rejecting a man doesn’t mean that the individual will take it well, idk how this is hard to understand. many dudes get falsely accusing while being respectful like many women get assaulted for no fault of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:21 PM
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Cause the solution proposed doesn’t really actually stop women from being assaulted or raped. Alternatively we could just get the ladies to “women up” and start approaching, that would probably solve at least a good chunk of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:10 PM
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Again. Why is "saying hello" always the same on here like sexually assaulting someone? We are talking about consent. excellent question why do some of these women believe someone they aren’t attracted to saying hello is assault? If we can get to the bottom of this maybe more men will conclude that it’s safe to approach again till then we’re stuck were we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:05 PM
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if your argument is men have an irrationally fear due to chances being low then all also point out that women's fears are irrationally due to low chances as well, it's ethier both are or none are. I agree with the rest of your statement that the alternative is just everyone gives up and no one dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:02 PM
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this whole arugement is fear mongering. I could also bring up how low the chances of the next dude who approaches you will physically assault you, but women don't wanna hear it and its generally the same mind set. but hey I guess no one can date that is an option as well you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:53 PM
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I mean men are already approaching women less as time goes on. and if 45% of women are single its probably gonna be 70-80% of men in that same situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:48 PM
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good actors have stopped approaching women in general, and bad actors don't give a shit as the guy above explained. and were lowkey already in questionable territory in this convo like imaging telling minorities that its up to them to cleanse their people otherwise they deserve the racist stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:44 PM
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the issue the is women start complaining that men aren't putting in enough effort, when they do this. let's not forget that it doesn't even necessarily take a men being pushy to get a negative reaction. Sometimes being nice and respectful about it, is all it takes to get a bad response, and have the police called on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:19 PM
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what about unattractive women. or how about we goo into women's media and replace the male leads with 5'3 balding fat guys to get the point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:06 PM
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The difference is that women cry and scream misogyny then go into men’s media in order to regulate and change the perception of what’s allowed under the claim that it’s harmful and unrealistically only for them to head back to there side to continue admiring there 6’5 jacked billionaire boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:22 AM
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yes this situation is called the beta bux. and usually just leads to misery. the only part that you left out is that as a women ages she sometimes forces her self to lower her own standards as she aged out of Chad's harem. and is bitter with the new guy now since he doesn't compare the the previous lover in looks and status. this also leads leads to conclude that a certain more incel adjacent groups where always right about certain men being screwed no matter what as well as blue pill being a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:54 PM
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the nice girl is actually the pump and dumped girl, that's the female version.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:43 PM
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tell this to blue pillers they're the ones who don't believe Chad exists
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:13 PM
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honestly this is like maybe the 3rd post of yours ever that I'm in full agreement with. only thing you left of is that redpill does actually acknowledge this and they thus call it the not people or invisible man theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:05 PM
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agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:35 PM
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Don't worry she will eventually get tired of sleeping with more attractive men and will settle for you" as a good thing they usually phase this as just wait till your older women mature and figure themselves out. I've seen the same talk directed at different dudes from within Blue pilled circles. They just don't call it by name which is beta buxxing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:31 PM
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the female equivalent of the nice guy is the pump and dump girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:27 PM
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so I short attractive guys are fucking everyone and have the lions share of sex. Basically redpills 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:23 PM
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there are whole bbw subs and forums dedicated to guess who like heavier ladies the same cannot be said in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:18 PM
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obese women also are expecting fit and tall men. if anything more then the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:17 PM
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on top of the the guy said women also dislike obese men so we could aruge that women have both a height and weight requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:14 PM
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tell this to the blue pilled crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:07 PM
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Then don’t date those women. If those are the only kinds of people, the guy is getting, that kind of goes back to my three points. they then just wont date at all as you cannot pick from nothing. If no one wants you then what. your just telling men to be single at that point which isnt wrong but give up does fit a different ideology. There’s baseline attraction and then there’s overwhelming lust. The vast majority of men have never caused women to have overwhelming lust for them. That is a fanta…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:02 PM
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they'll hate on you for saying the truth unfortunately rankings exist whether or not it needs up hurting someone's feeling or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:54 PM
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not to mention if the 600 pound life is still getting matches and attention which still does happen, then her looks match 600 pound guys an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:52 PM
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Even other guys will say he’s the problem at that point. Including guys who aren’t considered conventionally attractive. Agreed but this contradicts your all men need to do be willing to take any women claim that you made above. Guys here have said they don’t want to feel like they’ve been settled for. Even guys here agree with me. yes as of recently many guys are learning about womens duel mating strategies however as if now these guys in here are not representive of general population plus its…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:50 PM
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the issue is that atleast 95% of the instances that women claim are romantic end up just being a men doing favors for her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:16 PM
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honestly I think the removal of gender roles is good and makes sense with where society in general is moving. women in fact really should work as it helps them if they ethier don't want a partner (or can't find one hot enough for her standards) or just doesn't like the idea of marriage. the above is just makes logical sense to me and my only issues is women themselves will still try to shackle men to there roles while claiming that the women's part is outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:10 PM
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Women are less shallow than men though at least on average. That is they prioritize physical beauty less than men do. its that they have looks requirements on top of things. like wealth and status not that they ncessary have lower looks thresholds. however enough wealth and status can potentially make up for looks. So technically not wrong but once you break it down they aren't less shallow. But people take that to mean women don’t care about looks at all which is obviously delusional and false.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:42 PM
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fair enough but every time libs bring this up I have to remind that this is dangerous close to the mind set of racists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:25 PM
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I heard a wise men once say that we don't call women losers enough which could be more true. we all now how many men with thr same attitudes would be labeled and well if it's ok for them then it should ok for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:22 PM
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yes many of these women do wanna date but are chadsexual. is the difference usually
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:19 PM
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and both the left and the right shame men for being incels so what's your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:14 PM
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so basically, yea beta bux bux is real but huh.... let's not call it that. ya see those single moms in there 30s who now lost Chad as an option and decided to settle for you are huh... In there primes or something. Also any and all dead bedrooms are the men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:09 PM
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this is just how women behave in spades your just projecting rn except the only difference is thst we don't need to go down far enough and find a dude on my 600 pound life for the dude to be rejected like what your claiming men do on the women's side of things. He makes it obvious that he does not appreciate the women who give him a chance. in many such cases no one's giving him the chance. He acts entitled, as though he deserves someone “better” and is being forced to settle. Because he lacks s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:50 PM
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every time i bring this up it angrys libs sadly. ive been saying this and how racists operate is legit the exact same snd includes the same mind set and though process. only difference is that we have acceptable targets to be bigoted towards, according to leftist polices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:16 PM
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why are you blue pilled with this take is my only question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:11 PM
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it's the fact that so many libs would rather dive off a cliff with explosives tied around there necks and an anchor belted to there shins then address the fact that it is indeed possible to be bigoted to even the "wrong groups" as they'd put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:54 PM
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you shouldn't be a cuck because it's a bad position for the man to be in. however being a cuck or not has nothing to do with the individuals morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:41 PM
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because redpill never claimed being a beta cuck is a moral issue in the first place. being a beta is a looks and wealth problem, sometimes a confidence or assertiveness issue not kindness one. redpill also doesn't say nor claim that any of this Is right just that it will happen and it's in your best interest to avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:37 PM
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Ya dating is naturally unfair and un balanced game not based on morals like blue pill likes to claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:54 AM
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no its definitely both
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:25 AM
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that's the general talk that's been going around in both left and right wings spaces. it didn't come from the manosphere. all the manosphere did was ask now what eill you do after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:25 AM
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No one, but moral judgment about dating failures, especially towards men, seems to come more from progressives than from redpillers. I’m not sure about tough love, but saying it’s your responsibility to improve your dating life is different from saying it’s your fault. Sometimes things aren’t your fault, but if you want them to get better, it’s up to you to fix them. The only thing I disagree with is that red pillars don’t all claim that it’s your fault blue pill just claims its solely a moral i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:09 AM
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The idea that if a men fails romantic it is 100% due to lacking morals or hygiene is blue pill 100% The group that claim the idea that you can do everything right and still lose will sadly force me to break rule 6 so I’ll let you figure the rest out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:07 AM
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The biggest issue is that most of these spaces are first and foremost geared to help women first and not men if the advice, and situations will make women feel like the better and more moral gender it will be passed whether or not it actually helps or benefits the man in question. And if it so happens to benefit the man asking then that’s fine however helping them isn’t the main point, and can often and usually is skipped over as long as placing women as the moral and correct gender agenda is me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:04 AM
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The left specifically ignored and shunned The advice of people like Bernie who repeatedly claimed it would be bad if the average guy was left behind. That’s part of why we all ended up with trump as president rn Isnt AOC unironically the one who used short man energy to describe her political ops. She also describes liberal men as spiritual 6ft and I mean surely even you can see how the body positivity group behaving this way is off putting. Jon Stewart is an activist that really uses his platfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:57 AM
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women just neither want do deal with the risk nor the effort that apporaching takes. no one but themselves forces them to not apporach in 2026.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:49 PM
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wealth increases a mens attactiveness, plenty of data backs this up. having jobs just rasied womens standrads from anyone with wallet because I cannot pay for my own thngs to wealthy then her minimum. thats why theys so many where are the educated and wealthier then me articles often written college educationed liberal women, who should be the most ok with breaking gender roles but end up not being.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:46 PM
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women going out isnt you doesnt guarantee she likes you ever heard of a foodie call. it could be shes hungry and needs a free meal it could mean she wants validation for a night it could mean she wants to make an ex jealous with the first guy who shows affection etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:43 PM
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then its a good thing that we have no data none at all about a mans wallet and his attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:40 PM
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nah if more women wanted to pursue and not be the extremely passive party they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:37 PM
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they dont really have much advice because by and large they dont care about what happens to them at best or actively try to bring them down as they believe that will improve womens position at worst. in order to have blue pilled influences that care about men in this sort of way you actually have to have leftist spaces that advocate for them in the first place, outside of very specific miniorty related issues ofc which sits in a different category. when at best what they give to guys is a tuff l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:24 PM
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ok, and emotions are caused by a verifty of things, your point? your proof for why im wrong and you are right is basically a trust bro situation. plenty of research backs up my claims here. yelling that someones on the spectrum and touch grass doesnt make not yout arguments stronger there bud nor does it make my points sudden vanish into thin air like you've lead yourself to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:29 PM
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You clearly have no authority on this subject and it's frankly laughably wrong that you're writing like you do. silly me we should all be quite and listen to the self proclaimed womens expect over here I’m sure you’ve got all those certificates in the closet somewhere. I never said it was "the norm" - the examples I gave all make the same conclusion: women care about emotions (in their own life outside men and in dating) - and how men make them feel and how often they make them feel. the mistake…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:27 AM
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No they're not. Because if that was the case, they would end up with a great girl. the logic doesn’t apply as they need to be wanted in the first place. They're morons for women who cause him to think with his penis. As I have shown with that pop that balloon videos, "desperate" guys are quite willing to reject women who have personality and behavior standards. And this sub wants women who "truly desire them". Pop the balloons is the worst example you could have brought up. as it’s a minority of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:26 AM
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There's plenty of average guys that do well with women (because of how they make women feel), I know one very unattractive guy who does well with ladies - but he's certainly uncommon. This is where I call out ann extremely rare outlier, (which are so potentially extremely exaggerate to fit you position) and present them as the norm. I don't think you really understand that women are attracted to men based on the emotions she feels and how rare he is (in many ways, mostly his behaviour) correct, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:10 AM
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See about not hearing/reading what's actually said. I said: "The average doesn't have these types of grievances. They think they're stupid grievances and they also see guys being morons for Stacies." That has nothing to do with women complaining about an unrelated topic. there are guys who are morons for the vast majority of women all types. we call them simps. there no world where it’s only stacy like how women’s attention is massively disproportionately sent to Chad. Because a large portion of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:53 AM
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The average doesn't have these types of grievances. They think they're stupid grievances and they also see guys being morons for Stacies. if what you said was true way less women would be complaining about pump and dumps and more would be complaining about being femcels, there a reason this is usually the opposite when it comes said both genders complaints. no male loneliness studies should exist either and women should be the ones who are more lonely instead. Because you guys dont want to actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:39 AM
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Oh wait I minute I actually disagree with nothing here. Your right the bugs life isn’t the message the guy above believes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:28 AM
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It wasn't framed so much like betabuxxing as women maturing and realizing that some guys they had overlooked actually are attractive and interesting. Besides, college guys are famously broke. Betabux are rarely wealthy as wealthy guys usually have options. I also seen and have heard from many others that college is when the fuckboys gain the most bodies, there probably isn’t a more lob sided period of whose getting sex vs who isn’t then at this point of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:36 AM
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you believed that I said game doesn’t matter at all just be hot. My actually conclusion is while not irrelevant game doesn’t matter till your hot, or atleast bring something else important to go along side it most importantly money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:28 AM
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Women do this then lie that the only beauty standard is the heart on the mens side of things, because they cannot be shallow whatsoever unlike the evil men. When if anything there standards are harsher.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:20 AM
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No one told you guys this either. You intentionally misinterpret what you were told and never bothered to understand people as people. “I never saw this” therefore it’s not possible bullshit. I’ve never personally seen a black person harmed by police either therefore all instances must be false, keeping up with this line of thinking, you can also put assaults against women in here as well. Because they lie about what they were told and say awful shit about women. Of course they get dogpiled. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:17 AM
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There are women nowadays demanding that there future husbands but like that bad boy in whatever recent smut novel that they read.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:07 AM
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Actually as long as they portray the pizza dude as tall and fits it probably becomes the more realistic of the two scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:04 AM
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He still had to win a war and stop being a fuck up. I mean being a war hero sits comfortably in high end status’s ranges, he’s elevated himself above other men put himself in the top 20% and can now win women over, I’ll let you ponder over which ideology this fits into. Not only did you intentionally not understand the point of A Bug's Life. Most of the guys here wouldn't actually do what it would take to be a hero. You want the validation a hero gets without being a hero. YES EXACTLY THIS. plea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:00 AM
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But mid girls aren’t really ignored at least not nearly to the extent that average men are we all know what the actually numbers look like here. Women keep saying ”no you” whenever the hypergamy talk is brought up saying it’s actually men who behave like this not women. Yet literally nothing at all backs this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:44 AM
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We were also told that, after high school, women would become more mature and see the value in the smart, thoughtful, adorably nerdy guys they had previously overlooked. I mean how long after high school are we talking here cause if you go far enough it starts to sound like redpills description of a betabux.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:38 AM
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Surprised this is coming from a blu pilled women if I’m being honest, but I’ve been pointing out that basically while yes it’s true that looks only get you in the door (or status) if your to lacking then no door will open in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:33 AM
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Porn didn’t tell no one that women only value the heart and not things like looks and social status. it also doesn’t help that when men go to Well… mostly anywhere to vent they get dogpiled over how they‘re terrible pieces of shit and how, this is now the fair and just world enacting on itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:28 AM
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Game does matter but it’s more on a scale. for the very ugly no amount of game will save you however for Chad it’s extremely difficult to fumble and the women will probably do most of the work for you, but yes there are those who can behave correctly and still fail due to things like scoring to low on the attraction scale, while a better looking guy will be successful while doing the same thing or even while putting in 1/5 of the effort. that’s why I’m posting this meme for the 60th time to emph…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:56 AM
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women being telling short guys to kill themselves were have you been?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:05 PM
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the main difference is that his female equivalent doesn't wanna hear that and will claim your a misogynist bigot for daring to mention there isn't a 6'5 millionaire waiting for her. men being pampered less in this department however means there's significant less men who end up grossly overstating there value compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:33 PM
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while not compelety wrong what you and what blue pillers leave out is that none of this matters if your not attraction or have enough status to get in the door in the first place. if your to ugly, anti social, autistic or otherwise lack status then suddenly no girl wants to get the know your heart. women don't typically understand this as there problem is usually how can i keep the guy i like to stay which is very different from mans, how do i get my foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:31 PM
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If your two ugly or otherwise low status then suddenly nothing you say can create said sparks. I think to many people underate just how much the above matters matters to women. Men with the exact same personality a d another guy will be interpreted differently just cause one of them happens to be tall and the other short.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:21 PM
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But ok ya see it’s ok only when they I do it is basically her conclusion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:00 AM
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I love how this immediately got ignored once I mentioned why someone would want someone who keeps demanding treats for doing the bare minimum, which most people don’t think is healthy at all for a grown adult to do. guess I’ll repeat myself. agreed that’s why the best thing a struggling men can do for himself is level up, till he’s actually wanted by women, which means working on looks, wealth which is redpill 101 If you have nothing to offer don’t expect anything in return the only issue With t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:45 PM
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The typical context is usually demanding immediate rewards for doing something unimpressive like the bare minimum. agreed that’s why the best thing a struggling men can do for himself is level up, till he’s actually wanted by women, which means working on looks, wealth which is redpill 101
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:28 PM
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the issue is as soon as we even begin to ask What the bare minimum is for women, you’ll get all sorts of ad hominems thrown at you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:23 PM
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You guys are that upset because the rules apply to you? There upset cause they where told about a false criteria and a false set of rules is what was being used to judge. You guys cant even spot when someone is being an asshole. There’s no reason to trust you guys even know what a man with a heart of gold is. and neither can women apparently. how else could she have known that the convicted felon who beat his last 3 partners wasn't a safe dude, yet he gets picked anyways since hers tall, ya know…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:46 PM
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Who told you that the bare minimum would get you laid? That’s like thinking passing your classes was gonna get you the top university. Again that would be blue pilled just word nonsense DUH. DUH Usually an excuse to bash the less successful, especially when many who fail are still doing everything “right“ by blue pilled standards. You guys still aren’t listening when people explained that to you. They’re saying you guys dont have the self awareness nor the social tact to hide your red flags. nop…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:41 PM
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That would be blue pillars again that why you keep hearing nonsense like the follow: just treat women like humans its your politics you never shower (other hygiene related things) they can sense your misogyny (but surprisingly not the abusers) all this and many more serves to push the just world agenda, and another thing you’ve also missed out and what blue pill leaves out is that men with a heart of gold but who lack to much in things like looks, status, charisma etc end up as incels or betas. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:25 PM
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and with merely two feet left to the finish line you veered a hard left and missed the goal. The issue is the blue pill states that the rules apply for everyone and that the only thing being judged is the heart. Once people learn that this is actually bullshit is then when they start hearing out other options (other pills) the lie is that the 99% or whatever ya wanna claim now, do not exist and that the game is fair and just for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:07 PM
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Correct And who pushes this lie, come on your almost there now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:55 PM
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Because it debunks the dating isnt based on having the correct morality. Nonsense pushed by blue pillers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:42 PM
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nothing I said disagrees with this whatsoever but again that’s not the blue pilled point ya think it is, we’ve been through this dating isnt based on having the correct morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:33 PM
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the issues is this but itself is incredibly vague. What is the thing the bring you joy. cause once you look even a little deeper you'll find its looks status, confidence and typical traits assigned to a successful men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:09 PM
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yep this ^^^
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:06 PM
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and they like them due to thinks like looks, money, status because those things make them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:06 PM
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its cause healthy relationships need to be reciprocal. and both party's need to want to be with each other, bloopees have yet to describe why exactly a loveless and sexless beta relationships should be so enticing to the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:03 PM
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wanting to be physically attractive, and desirable to your partner doesn't mean you care about nothing else. they just don't wanna find themselves in beta situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:00 PM
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another blue pilled looks only get you in the door statement. While not false what they always leave out is that if you don't look good enough (or have status) then no door will ever open
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:53 PM
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I’m asking because attraction and attractiveness seems to be used as this catch all phrase, For example: Quotes like “Being nice doesn’t make a man more attractive!” Everyone wants to be seen as attractive to they're potential mates. I know crazy relevation. So are men happy being considered attractive but no one wants to be around him? Are men happy being considered attractive but doesn’t want to fuck him? If hes attractive then women wanting to fuck him is the default if he's unattractive then…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:49 PM
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they could have settled even if you didn't and then sometims try to leave if a potential better man comes around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:36 PM
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Women are more so middle to middle mostly and men are more so top to bottom mostly also theirs significantly more people at the bottom then they are at the top of society which needs to be kept in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:26 PM
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the only thing you left out is thats there's far far more people at the bottom then at the top and being a bottom man is still the worst position of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:22 AM
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I mean smut exists so.....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:30 AM
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Most of you dont have the looks nor money for people to tolerate you being insufferable. nothing I said disagrees with this whatsoever but again that’s not the blue pilled point ya think it is, we’ve been through this dating isnt based on having the correct morality. I no clue why you feel the need to pat yourself on the back for repeating the same point a point over and over again in which it’s only your side who disagrees. Being nice is part of being sociable. Most people don't enjoy the compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:10 AM
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So now its Just date the robots, uh didn’t think you were that much of an ai supporter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:21 AM
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Oh boy. Buddy bloopies were better off stating that dating apps aren’t actually real life, at least that has some legs, now there continuing to push whatever nonsense this is. dating app data is pretty concrete and has been showing redpilling numbers for ages now. A random sub were very few people compared to bumbles total numbers are posting some success proves nothing this is a classic survivals basis. let’s not forget that the people who fail are alot less likely to post or potentially even b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:14 AM
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Your immediately thought was the friendzone and men pretending to be friends in hopes of getting pussy. People who value friends dont think like that. its you who brought this up, and then said that man need to friend women first with this in mind, which many man do only to find themselves in said position which upsets women. Again you should have friends even if your goal isnt to date them but make no mistake it doesn’t suddenly make you attractive if you were struggling before. coincidently, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:56 PM
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This whole message is a strawman, I never once claimed that making friends is bad or not important just that it does automatically get you a girlfirend unless you have the above, more improtant traits that aren’t blue pilled. In fact I said my sociability is very important but you don’t need to be very blue pilled and nice to be social and know how to talk, trump is Social for example. that means the friends part often is not the issue at hand or at least not the main one. On top of that let’s n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:45 PM
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Complains about strawman while making one yourself. Most of it is. Most of you dont have the looks nor money to overcome a bad personality. Again I keep repeating to you that: this is called redpill, and blue pillars active deny this fact. the actual issue is looks and money period Its called making friends. Just because guys dont value friends doesnt mean most people dont. it’s also called the friend zone making friends doesn’t guarantee a relationship unless you have the above more important t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:06 PM
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Because most of you have garbage personalities, which is the leading cause of you guys having problems Here we go again with the strawman and the just world fallacy again, that ignores the entire argument, for the 10th time it doesn’t matter if you lack looks and status youll be an incel or a beta. Notice how you had to go from feminist to ugly feminist because I reminded even worst case, male feminists like Will Smith get married. Lol Also, the male feminist is still gonna be more well liked th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:41 PM
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80% were considering 4/10 or less. The kinds of attitudes the redpill wants to get away with is top 1 to 3%. Again the idea that this lob sidedness even exists in the first place is the red pill and goes against the just world we see in blue pill. He's not an incel, so yes he is. Wife. Betabux, look how he’s disrespected.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:05 PM
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You guys claim that, but where’s your evidence? If its such a massive problem, where’s the problem? The amount of blue pillers who swear that just treating women like humans will sudden end all of men’s dating woes, is bullshit. you should be checking them if you have a problems with the above statements Most of you are not hot nor rich enough for people to tolerate a nasty attitude from you. You keep claiming you understand this, but you really don’t. the point is that attitude by itself is alm…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:59 PM
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Most go off to an enclosed place and try to live life with the hand dealt to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:40 PM
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I'm waiting for guys to tell me who told them that would automatically result in their dicks getting sucked. that would be blue pillers, and there abject circles. When the claim that your only an incel due to personality gets thrown around everywhere we can conclude, that blue pillers do agree with the above. Most of you aren't hot enough for that to be true. No it’s just that confidence, competence and looks matters significantly more then kindness, the kind man without these is an incel or May…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:38 PM
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most blame themselves, God or whatever for there misfortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:14 PM
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Most of you are NOT hot enough for pretty privilege this is also redpill that's where concepts like 80/20 come forth. No theyre not. At worse, they’re in a situation like Will Smith. Will is not the talking point against red pill that you think it is. Wealth and status 2.even look how his wife as treated him if anything this is an example a redpiller who use to claim your better off not better that nice. Also most men will never have have Will fame and status so where does that leave them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:11 PM
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personally in of itself is a vague term but in blue pilled adjacent places you often hear things like just be nice and treat her kindly. That part of personality is unfortunate mostly irrelevant. Now If we're talking confidence there right but it's mostly the former more then the latter that gets brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:05 PM
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well all am allowed to say is that the idea that it's over and you need to give up and focus other aspects of life, actually belongs to a different group.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:39 PM
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And they wont answer because they know they dont have the looks for their personality to not matter, they just wont fix their horrid personality because the fantasy to get validation while being a piece of shit. That's a strawman. The complaint is that blue pillers caim that personality is the sole reason a man can ever fail to attract women, so bringing up that pieces of shit actually do great with women is the counter to this. Real thing preventing them are things like lacking looks, status, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:33 PM
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surprised your blue pilled with a take like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:15 PM
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your whole speech there is basically whats called the red pill. the idea that women have value from just being women and that most men are unattractive by default but can then work there way into being successful is one of the core tenants of the ideology. Because guys here keep crying "It's not my personality, it's my looks!" but most of you will never be hot enough for your personality to not matter. the people most likely to disagree with this are blue pillers. The other pills will mention th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:50 PM
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if you want a relationship you need to make yourself attractive whether or not that entails being yourself or faking it depends solely on if you already possess attractive attitudes or attributes in the first place. Basically there are a select number of traits that are attractive and a set number of traits that are nor, if you have them naturally then you'll be attractive if you do not then being yourself will probably repulse whoever your tryna attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:33 PM
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it actually cause successful women generally do not want less successful men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:44 AM
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<image> Every single time. We‘re tapping the sign yet again. It’s always been less about the behaviour itself and more about WHOSE displaying said behaviour, which is the quite part they leave out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:09 AM
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That actually says the real problems. Guys being mad that the traditional ways are dying. traditional ways are dying FOR WOMEN. men who cannot enact upon there own tradition roles have all sorts of names lobbed towards them even from so called progressives, and thus it’s the double standards that piss them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:58 PM
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their bank accounts are pretty desirable though which is why the rich old men young women exchange keeps happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:19 PM
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that's pretty low down the list, especially since a wish that results in the welder having more power, wealth or authority over society would probably result in the same thing but simply as a side effect of gaining the above. or ya know just a wish to be hot enough that the women themselves willing choose you. this reads of more feminist psyops of no men wants us to have rights kind of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 04:02 PM
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the issues then is that the masculine ideal is still both upheld and getting more and more difficult to achieve by the day. yet at the same time women themselves are becoming less and less of what men want at the same time. also realize that any conversation like this in reverse about what real women are and what real women should do in a relationship will gets ad hominems thrown at the asker, but at the same time we have to consistently hear about what real men are and what they have to provide…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:57 PM
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more real men have to do ABC to be consisted men bullshit. and again it often comes from the progressives. gender roles are a thing of the past people (but they only mean womens ofc) imagine if we actually held women to similar standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:38 PM
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many stories start with a guy talking about a depressing moment in there life and then end with there girlfriend losing attraction to them. claiming it's only related to incels being sexless Is a false.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:34 PM
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im pretty sure we have predicts that are close to those numbers expected in the not so distant future. and yes your righ not everyone can date chad thats why i alot more women then before are also sungle and marriage rates are down. basically your correct about your statement and where as a society are moving towards that what your claiming
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:30 PM
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everyone is free to have any standards they so i disagree. what women should be told though is thslat if they vring nothing to the table then they inturn deserve nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:06 PM
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Ok I guess I can entertain this, what’s ur point then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:01 AM
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Your entire premise is if dating doesn’t work for you just be gay, and then end with it’s ok to be gay meaning sexually was a choice all along according to you correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:48 AM
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Another just be gay and sexually is a choice post, from another blued pilled women huh. The bigotry and homophobia doesnt end.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:41 AM
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unironically misogynistic to claim women from foreign countries are too stupid to choose better. Let consenting adults be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:35 PM
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not only that but since women ofc only judge men on purely there morality they them expect people in this situation to adopt a I'm actually a piece of shit who deserves what's come to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:40 AM
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I agree with most of this however it's not really that women understand men all that well its just that they really do not need to. for the most part. they'll have relationships sex etc come to them (well for the most part expects exist) while 5he male equivalent will often find himself an incel or potentially a betabux I'd he doesn't understand the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:44 AM
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I assert that you are making this up in your own head: how are you even observing this behavior it if is rich powerful people talking in secret backrooms? I have never been in the room where it happened… are you claiming that you are a rich and powerful man, and that rich and powerful women are constantly confessing to you that they hate men? I cannot express how incredibly unrealistic this all sounds. It carries much higher social implications then does for when fot women when they behave in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:22 PM
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ya do know you can apply this logic to any group for example if a racist had a bad experience with a minority then it's not his fault that he has negative and bigoted opinions. it's up to that group themselves to cleanse out bad actors so the racist can develop more positive opinions otherwise its on the group as a whole thats the problem not the racist. so I ask is his opinion on the matter ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:51 PM
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by this logic your admitting that the many who become redpilled are right. also so are rasicts
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:35 AM
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Tell me you have never ever worked in a corporate environment without telling me, lol. No, it’s not fucking “expectable” or acceptable to tell anyone to die in the workplace, man or woman. Stop doomscrolling this curated manosphere stupid bullshit and touch grass. They ethier do it in private are rich or are rich and high positioned enough to vet away with it. Otherwise that's a trip to HR. This must be more of that “male accountability” the manosphere keeps bragging about: no matter what a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:44 PM
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The number of women telling short men to die is way smaller than the number of men telling unattractive women to die, but you’re only here to shame women and glaze for men. highly doubt it when one’s socially expectable and one will give you an immediate trip to HR (unless you have enough status) Why do you think that being willing to suck it up and fuck someone you don’t like with a paper bag over their head is some weird virtue signal flex? Those numbers are impossible to prove btw it’s just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:22 AM
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No, I’m observing what men say and and do. You cannot say old women are disgusting old hags, and fat women are nasty ham planets… and also claim you adore 90% of the women in general. Women tell short men to kill themselves all the time There are women who like short men too: if you won’t acknowledge them, why should I acknowledge men who prefer obese women? The numbers are much smaller while you find bbws in various place you'll never find a we love short kings sub or something of that sort and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:33 PM
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You simply do not register the majority of unattractive women as women at all. The majority of women in the US are old or fat or both… respectfully your projecting how women view men onto men themselves. if this was true you won’t have groups of men being dictated to every kind of women possible, while the inverse simply isn’t true whatsoever. there are bbw groups, muscle mommy groups, amazon groups etc etc, while the same isn’t true for womens side of things. date app statistics have also back …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:03 AM
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Said the same thing multiple times on here and everytime i do I pisses a few blue pillers off. Ya see bigot is good as long as you have the “correct targets”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:55 AM
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the men women want aren't struggling with the whole move from women to women thing. and the men you dont want, have basically given up their position at the back of the line waiting for everything to be done is what's happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:03 AM
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ah... about that conservatives are actually less single them liberals, so yes it is affecting them more. everyday we end up proving yet again that the kind feminist agreeable men, who dont exhibit more redpill characteristics are in fact the incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:59 PM
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also important to note is that its definitely taller then the average koren male
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:45 PM
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kpop models, largely still fit the model. they still usually have more stereotypically masculine characteristics and are usually tall fit and have status. not the point you think it is, and isnt all that far off from what would be the ideal masculine western look.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:27 AM
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so I guess this is were the true colors are shown and the equality bulshit slips huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:08 AM
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ah yes schrodinger's the kids both yours and not yours depending on whether or not the women in question wants the child or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:53 AM
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I think the person above has to be a troll its the only way. you can also add DEI whose main beneficences are women particularly white women, the left also focusues on things like womens safety which is good on paper till assholes start metoo'ing innocent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:50 AM
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It's part of the feminist fight to bring down the patriarchy and toxic masculinity expectations. But men don't like it when women fight for this for some reason Because there aren't really fighting for that cause. whenever a mans issue comes up they claim that men aren't owed jack shit as this is a movement for women only and men need to take care of themselves and fix there own problems. So then when men get up and try to fix these problems they then get called misogynistic for not centering wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:18 PM
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and then complain when certain men don’t do there gender roles(”something something a real men would do whatever action benefits me at this point”), but cry misogyny and down with the patriarchy when they themselves are told that they have expectations placed on them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:01 PM
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Many such guys get picked last, due to things like looks status or not being exciting enough unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:56 PM
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Because many so called progressive claim (or at least pretend to claim) that things like gender role and patriarchal standards are behind us that is atleast till it’s time to cash in and claim you need to do abcd in order to be considered a “real man”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:52 PM
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There is nothing inherently wrong with that, those are his preferences to have, but some women will just not find that attractive. its like 90%+ percent of them even the progressive ones ironically enough. Not that its an inherently bad thing but these are the people who are supposedly say that gender roles are a thing off the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:35 PM
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I thought I was hearing that women were in to 50/50s these days but I guess gender roles are still gender roles as long as it applies to only men. also you could easily flip this argument and then claim that women aren’t agreeable. gender roles for thee but not for me. patriarchy bad till it’s time for my benefits, and even if you want that sort of relationship (which isn’t a problem btw) are you prepared for what a women usually had to offer and do in return? my best guess is that you’d claim t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:30 PM
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Lack of looks, social status, wealth having a mental illness and/or lacking confidence or competence are the reasons. Women absolutely love intimacy and romance just as much as men, but they rarely exhibit that same high-volume, visual "obsession" or pursuit toward men. or if you want me to directly answer this then the answer is that they do but most men aren’t nearly attractive enough in most women’s eyes, for it however the very few who are do solicit those reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:20 PM
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It’s scale but if men cannot up whatsoever then were back to the stoic thing. Also I guarantee that if we take your standards and directly apply them to women you’ll find that most reach the prerequisite of a whiny bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:17 PM
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That’s not how women pick who they casually sleep with at all, in my experience tbf I should have added and/or status to this sentence. that’s why on one hand there’s a male loneliness epidemic and on the other had. guys like Elon musk have 12 baby mommas. I don’t think most women are being strategic or dumb enough to think sleeping with a guy will help secure a good relationship, they’re at least just horny and not being very serious about finding a bf. Maybe at worst you’re describing someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:10 AM
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all this just to conclude that men in the end need to be stoic and unyielding emotionally. Basically never open up and coming to preform your genders roles, but also gender roles are bad sure (when they apply to women)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:59 PM
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Ya this is the part that women don’t see. Which frustrates them in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:49 PM
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It’s difficult due the difference of risk and reward that sex has for women versus what is it’s for men. since women actually get pregnant they’ll only take flings with men who have the best genetics possible the vast majority of the time. so men aren’t competing over a small minority of women there mostly just blocked off from the possibility completely, since if a women would be open to such a thing the guy needs to be extremely hot or high status’d, which most guys aren’t. women then become s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:46 PM
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Women definitely get very horny for the right guy however most men aren’t that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:36 PM
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nah he’s right at what point does it become the women’s fault, why do women go on and on about safety and feminisms values to there unattractive male friends just for these guys to realize that the corrupt politician and murderer are never without women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:00 PM
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I mean ill give you the benefit of since what he did could be lllegal unless there are other factors at play that I'm am missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:56 AM
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honestly surprised ur blue pilled with a take like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:21 AM
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female breadwinner have the highest divorce rate women yes even the most leftist ones complain about wanting provider men etc etc. so ya when there not virtually signally in there gender roles are bad discussions we get to see what women actually believe. not that I'd claim it's wrong or evil but just how life is and we should all just embrace what's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:15 AM
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your grabbing the most fringe far out groups you could find and then claim that's the norm and not the expectation. most women would be appalled if they made 1.5 times there husbands income
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:59 PM
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bro doesn't want to believe that his heros were never so heroic after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:34 PM
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People who think alcohol makes someone unable to consent say it for both genders Tell that feminists then. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:32 PM
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50/50 just isn't attractive in general due to wanting a man who fulfills the provide and protect role being biological ingrained in there DNA. after getting into those relationships women feel wrong about how said dynamics are playing out. and, no amount of doing more dishes is gonna fix that, and suddenly make the man in question attractive. it's also why female breadwinner relationships fall south even quicker then the aforementioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:14 PM
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schrodinger's online is real life: where the the stuff you see posted on social froms is both real and a correct view of an entire group or false and only a display of fringe minority solely dependent on which side of the fence that particular individual is on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:04 PM
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The woman being stronger, smarter, richer, better than the man is always something difficult for the average man to accept since modern society leans and promotes that men are supposed to be the 'bigger,stronger, faster, richer" Unfortunately women push for this standard for more then men do. Which kind of shackles guys to ther gender role far far worse then how women have it. the guy in this question would probably not have to much problems finding a men because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:04 PM
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I mean I've never once in my life hear a guy claim "damn look at the eyebrows on that one" and I'm gonna wage no dude on here has as well. if anything historic I've heard makeup was actually for men so... maybe going back to this times would help with the attraction proble, also the birthrates were higher in those times then today I'll add.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:01 PM
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not ncessary however it is true that hot people get treated better which in turn gives them a more positive outlook on life their uglier counterparts who are treated worse in comparison. there's also the whole pretty privilege thing where how someone behaves will be interpreted differently depending on how physically attractive they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:45 PM
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what if men have a negative experience with women? are they now correct in there views? what if a racist has a negative experience with a minority are they now correct for displacing bigot? funny that it's only ever "correct" when it happens one way and toward the proper group. Great to know this is coming from the equality gang as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:31 AM
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You want women who get horny for murderers? If they keep getting horny for murderers but never for ugly/autistic men then it does show what traits are valued more then others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:26 AM
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it's the opposite women feel cheated out of a proper relationship when the men can not compete his appointed gender roles. again it's not Maga men writing where are the financial attractive men articles it's actual liberal women.​
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:51 PM
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you were on the right track however while you were climbing up those stairs you leaped over about 4/5 of said staircase and then arrived at the an incomplete conclusion. The issues you left out is that the left simply doesn't give a fuck about struggling depressed men, tells them that everything in this world is there fault and then tells them that continuing to only help women is the priority, all while saying its women who are still oppressed. That's how you get rooms full off well off women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:46 PM
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honestly, honestly I cannot aruge with that was prepared to have you bend over backwards to defend bigotry when it comes from the "correct side" to bad that way of thinking isn't consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:17 PM
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it's a good thing that only positive thoughts from the womens side of things such as "kill all men" and "men or bear" are what's being broadcasted like just imagine if it was something actually negative....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:12 PM
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unfortunately twoX will redpill you (if not worse) faster then tate or fresh n fit ever could
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:51 PM
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The whole reason men guess these things is cause women expect “good men” to just read her mind and know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:17 AM
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part of this is due to apex fallacy. where you judge a group only by its top performers. Basically women only care about and see the most attractive men which also overwhelming have the least amount of incentives to be good people as they'll be treated well regardless. If he cannot control his anger, he is not a good person. This is an example of men not taking accountability This is the cart before the horse the anger usually comes after he realizes what he was told is false in the first place.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:54 AM
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because its a direct debunk on blue pills just treat women like humans crap they love to preach at the unsuccessful like some sort of weird religious teaching. the fact the some known murders are never without women, yet the guy whose say even slightly autistic, and short can be as blue pilled and feminist as humanily possible but still ends up an incel is in direct opposition of what we were told is ssupposed to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:40 AM
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I mean if you wanna talk autism the stats on that are rather well mods don't like me breaking rule 6 for let's just say it ain't blue pilled whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:31 AM
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and if you have neither then the door will ever open in the first place. you could have the best product in the the world but if you only knock on abandoned homes don't be surprised when you sell nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:28 AM
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why would men date down? If we say women are attracted to the top 20-5%, why would the male 20-5% not date the female 20-5% and instead go for all of them? well in many such cases the men in question just want easy sex, however there also the point that men genuinely like more members of the opposite sex then the other way around, so there’s that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:22 AM
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Just because someone has less choices doesn’t mean said choices are still good. your mind is still stuck under women are wonderful nonsense, there are bad women just like there are bad men. It’s like the answer to the men tryna find drinking water in a desert and women tryna find drinking water in a swamp, Just because the men have found some water in the desert doesnt automatically mean it’s good and clean therefore men have legit both problems and thus still have it worse by the logic. the who…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:00 PM
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They either don’t think that far ahead or hope that they different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:45 PM
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The patriarchy were they now outearn men get degrees at higher levels, are less likely to be in prison and less likely to be homeless etc etc. never In the history of men kind have the oppressed scored lower in all these categories then the oppressors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:57 PM
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A lot of women know that however there also scared that if they approach it like this then Chad will simply leave. When your a in demand guy with a million options why wait on an average girl when there’s dozens of them that wont Make you wait, and are already lined up looking for there turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:46 PM
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The reason men are drafted is biology. You cannot get pregnant and you are larger and better able to fight. mostly social at this point we have guns. also you could then argue that getting pregnant is an advantage as it inherently makes a women life more valuable then a men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:29 AM
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If you Don’t have merit in a particular field of note, aren’t rich and/or not hot then not really. People don’t have much of a reason to give that guy respect. it definitely isn’t just there by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:17 AM
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I mean while I don't agree that biology cannot be argued as a disadvantage or advantage. I think it's fair to claim that women have more social advantages then men atleast in western place. biological one can't be changed ofc. so you can't just say men will get pregnant now obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:50 AM
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also the men are privileged by having respect part only comes if they have ethier looks good or was able to generate results in a certain field it however is not there by default atleast for the vast majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:40 AM
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what evidence. You've been backpacking the argument this whole and only claimed I never said that which still ironically leaves us with a random redpilled conclusion, to said data. in which women message patterns via dating apps still leads to redpilled conclusions on concepts like hypergamy. your argument is the old trust bro your it never happened very typical of a blue piller. at best your points a nothing burger, while you've been going around refuting what you said yourself. just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:19 AM
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ah so you've been caught in a lie and are resorting to "no yous" I see you have nothing else to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:08 AM
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all said was that your claims are a bit deceitful as average doesnt actually mean average in a traditional sense. we both know what you meant. precieved attractive isn't actual average. apps have already being complieling data for years. again your definition of average in this scenario is still a noticeable above average men still leaving us with redpilled claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:42 AM
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Cause many kind blue pilled men still end up as incels. which is the part they’ll never admit since it directly goes against the male exclusive just world. the point then is if at all possible you focus on more important attributes that actually move the needle. aspects that actually verifiable matter cause it usually isn’t the blue pilled, points that bottlenecks you by itself you. 99% of men arent Chad, so you’re focusing on the exception, which you called Blue Pill 101. yes exactly what’s you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:24 AM
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80% of messages were sent from women were to men with a mean attractiveness rating of "average" or lower. that idea that you tried to present this paragraph as meaning the average men using apps would be getting attention. even if you didn’t directly mean this then your being intentionally misleading in hopes of getting people to steer away from the truth. you've now made you own argument mute as "average" really just means average Chad due to how lopsided women rate men overall the perceived av…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:18 AM
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The idea you brought up that women are usually going after average men on data apps is refutabe. And stepping out of your prefered range doesnt mean the average men on apps are going attention, it just means people outside the tippy top, yet still notcible above average can get so matches. No point you've brought are necessary lies howver they definitely dont prove the points your trying to make about the average means experience whatsoever and more so prove things like 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:56 AM
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yep he intentionally leaves this one women messg8ng a men she views as below average is just a 5'11 with money men instead of a 6'2 with money. so still an noticeable above average, man but just slightly less then the extent it was before. Basically women are more likely to go below there prefered levels and message a men whose 7 instead of the 9s then a men who prefers a 4-5 who message a 2. so no it does not disprove that women are less picky. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:28 AM
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Second, any way you want adjust the attractiveness ratings, the data irrefutably debunks the claim of "the vast majority of women are going after the same small percentage of top men. Well then congrats you've played yourself as you've now made you own argument mute as "average" really just means average Chad, leaving us at square one and not actually disproving anything. You've refuted nothing. If average just means top 20 percent anyways then where still back to redpilled talking points. Prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:14 AM
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Just questioned something similar and guessing since he avoided the answer it probably means we’re correct, “average“ in this case just means anything below a top 20% men even if ever so slightly, aka still objectively well above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:44 AM
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does that mean that 80% of the messages goes to the actual men who scores at the mean attractiveness like objectively, as in a normal bell curve in statistics, or the actually mean attractiveness of what the women view as average or lower. As There actually is big difference, especially when the same study your talking about claims that women think 80% of men are below average, so in that case that so called average would then be say a men the top 85th percentile or over yet still viewed as aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:41 AM
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because its a debunk on blue pills just treat women kindly, as they only see the heart as certain men can be verifiaby be not blue pilled and still never go without a girlfriend if not without several. While lower status uglier and somethings just awkward, or unlucky blue pilled guys who practices "right think" or whatever end up as incels. The idea then is focus on the principles that actually move the needle and can actually make you seem attractive. Chad is evidence against blue pilled princi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:14 PM
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When feminism started women truly did have much less rights then men so there that. people supporting feminism did it for those reasons and didn’t actually care about dating and it’s effects. also feminism in of itself didn’t create invent hypergamy, it was always around. plus a lot of getting women into the work place was so that the rich could devalue work with more competition and thus pay the average employee less. however feminist did raise women’s social status substantially which yes made…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:46 AM
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That’s blue pill 101 unfortunately the whole I know a 5’3 janitor whose slightly autistic and had several girlfriends plus even married twice before 30, kind of talks. even if the person claiming this isn’t bullshitting (and often times they are let’s be real) that men’s experience is not what the average men in his position gets, which they fail to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:28 AM
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That’s true however women still swipe right one 5%-1% of men these days so it still leads us to the same conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:22 AM
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known serial killers have entire fan clubs if there attractive so forging ignorance doesnt apply here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:44 PM
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Again said group swears this doesn’t happen as looks and status barely matter, while there correct that personality does have an effect they misconstrued the fact that it’s confidence and perceived status that moves you up not things like kindness or being a feminist or whatever. then you have the whole if you struggle to date you must be a misogynist with poor hygiene, nonsense that gets virtue signaled at unattractive or low status dudes so that women can appear less shallow and like the “good…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:56 PM
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It not just a certain group in here will swear it’s all in you head and that only kindness and the heart are ever judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:44 PM
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this Is red pills 80/20 being proven yet again. anyways no one’s wrong for wanting whatever they want, and best of luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:41 PM
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I mean that idea that some are just screwed no matter what falls very close to a certain ideology, which I’m not allowed to call by name as the mods don’t like it…. anyways where still at the part where personality at least in blue pill terms doesn’t actually matter unless your hot or have status, also if you hot and have status but none of the blue pilled values then you’ll still do great with women, debunking the whole just be nice to them claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:33 AM
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What ur saying has no contradiction as red pill itself states that if a men can reach a certain level (or if he starts there) then the rules don’t apply to him. rules are for betas not for alphas is kind of redpill 101
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:28 AM
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It’s unfortunate but directly does provide that redpills beta bud concept is real And debunks the blues pill most people eventually get marriage which means there automatically living happy and balanced life’s. then they tell ya to look no further.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:19 AM
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I think you are ignoring the possibility that those girlfriends are also not mentally healthy individuals and probably assholes themselves. Do you want to have a mentally deranged girlfriend also? ok fair enough, what your saying obviously has some truth to it but doesn’t answer why there are men with the some called “right feminist mind set“ that still end up as incels. it still directly counters the just treat women kindly as they only see the heart. right think still gets you no where if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:16 AM
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Why don't men stop adhering to gender roles themselves? Would probably just be a society wide effort not just men although it is happening slowly, were they are. I know plenty of men that already have. And their lives are better for it. Including their sex lives. Which tend to include me as well. Very skeptical on this one. Sure I guess I can take your word for it ɓt you should know that basically ZERO men would gloat about how there wife's or girlfriends or whatever are leaving them sexless esp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:28 PM
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Incel = Involuntary celibate. Which means they don't have sex at all. Like, at all. For years if ever.... It's not about violence. It's about protective men. Yes that's my point, many of these feminist end up appearing weak and that turns off women. Feminine men tend to be very strong and resilient. They have more power being emotionally aware than a man who has physical strength and lacks mental and emotional wit. This may actually be those things, however appearance Is everything and what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:07 PM
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respect it's hard to take that seriously when you javelin a flair that says your husband 6'4, i can guess why you pick him and I can guess that he wouldn't be with you if he was a foot shorter. not that it's wrong or evil or whatever but that women need to owe it and start with the personalities and be kind to women bullshit, as it doesn't matter till you possess the more superficial requirements first, as life simply is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:34 PM
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now I'd agree it isn't hard however many who find themselves in this position understand how much more leverage they have then the average women, and that there a rare commodity. and as the saying goes whoever is more willing to leave and just get someone else has the most power in a relationship and that's pretty much always the high status guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:28 PM
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other way around, men's mental health us still being mocked if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:10 PM
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Right, because they primarily do so by predatory means, you get that, don't you? These women are very seldom with these men willingly. No matter what the media may try to sell you. So guys like Ted Bundy or Richard Ramirez where forcing all those women to send them love letters now. Or did said women choose to voluntarily. no incels on the epstein files as well, I’ll add that in too. You don't get how women work and that's clear. it’s becomes a watch what they see and not what they do. How come …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:25 PM
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If this shit was true, there wouldn’t be attractive killers and corrupt politician who can get not only one but multiple girlfriends. there also wouldn’t be any studies linking things like height and aggressiveness with attraction, and popular smut would mostly be about the short balding guy, whose hearts are able to win women over instead of the usually dangerous and 6’6 ripped dude, whose chin cuts diamond or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:59 PM
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There probably incels unless substantial rich and or hot in order to make up for such a glaring flaw as seen by most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:48 PM
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Technically is is the patriarchy, by it’s standards definition. now many libs do lives to claim that said patriatchy is a system that solely favors men or whatever thats Incorrect. and yes even very feminist women are competely hypocritical when it comes gender roles and upholding certain values. Most of there complaints are about removing gender roles for themselves alol while shackling men to there with statements about who or what constitutes as a real men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:45 PM
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So… ya don’t know you have consent till after the act is what your claiming correct? anyways ur proving my point. back to be attractive don’t be unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:35 PM
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Unfortunately despite what blue pill claims the right person saying something often matters much more then what’s actually being said. back to be attractive don’t be unattractive <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:48 PM
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Guys are to desperate for sex and act like it’s a need so they end up putting up with anything. Where at that point it’s better to learn to live without a relationship, instead of harming yourself through desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:44 AM
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So the first source shows that among people who are having sex, men have more partners. ironically proving redpill correct sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:09 AM
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Fellas, if this is a normal thing, you live in a dysfunctional area where people were raised around danger. That's not normal behavior. thought the general message was that women always have to look over there shoulder for the next potential rapist due to not being safe which is the cause all the there dating problems. since when did this change, your side will disagree with you on that one. I notice this question I pose never gets answered. 99% of men aren't Chad. agreed however the fact that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:01 AM
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"After asking guys here a question about whether they want to be around unpleasant people in general, seems the majority of guys here are extremely tolerant of unpleasant people as long as they see that person as useful or will stroke their ego. women actually do this in great numbers that’s why bad boys is a type and why criminals and corrupt politicians seemingly are never within girlfriends and sometimes get multiple. the idea that this never happens as women only judge the heart or whatever …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:00 AM
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Most men (that the same women want) are straight, (and have options) Why would they want a whiny entitled bitch for a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:29 PM
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alot of women themselves arent special enough to be demanding the treatment they do from Chad. crazy that the no one owes you anything logic goes out the window as soon as you apply it to women. it's women who claim I exist therefore I deserve ABC from top tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 09:29 PM
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Why does a random pop the balloon, video suddenly dictate all men everywhere on earth. Crazy that you’ll reject red pills taking points when they have magnitudes more evidence then this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:49 PM
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How do you know that unselected men are typically self-centered, lack social tact, fake being nice in order to get sex, etc.? By this logic, anyone who complains about the price of groceries is a disgusting poor who's lazy, entitled, too stupid to get a good job, and has a victim complex. thanks for the honestly kind of getting rare from a lot of women in here. anyways to answer the question your correct the two aren’t reality however that defies the blue pills just world that they love to push …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:45 PM
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They’re commenting on how these guys write and how they’re presenting their personalities online, not on their looks, because most incels aren’t posting pictures/videos of themselves anyway. Whether or not it’s accurate or helpful, that’s just how it goes with anonymous interaction online your firstly misconstruing what people say on an anonymous site like reddit to how they must interact in real life, which is false. on top of this most incels are closed off and not actually ranting about women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:34 PM
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It’s also typically the women here (and blue flaired men) saying that beauty doesn’t correlate to good or bad character, that plenty of average looking men are great, etc. they lie and go in the opposite direction is that thing that’s why they claim that all struggling men are misogynist who’ve never showered which is basically blue pill 101, red pill never claims beauty and character are related just that character (or at least character in the blue pill sense) doesn’t matter as long have more …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:06 PM
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It’s often projection and ironically its usually the solution for women's dating problems as well just many view the average to even a bit above as the new ugly for men. for men it’s much more likely to just have no one due to the above. then again this sort of reads like on of those gender flipped scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:57 PM
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I just hope your title is memey but seeing your answer it sound like you genuinely believe that bad attitude can be overlooked. because time and time again we see that if often can as long as the actually important traits are present within the men in question, looks, wealth status and social ability being a good person barely moves the needle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:21 PM
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Oh boy were do we even begin. seems the majority of guys here are extremely tolerant of unpleasant people as long as they see that person as useful or will stroke their ego. Well, at least that belief is very consistent, which explains why they believe women wouldn’t be turned off by a shitty personality. this is a projection of women overlook safety for other more important traits. that’s why the hot and dangerous bad boy types are popular. this is a pattern I’ve seen with guys who cry about ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:18 PM
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Agreeable, nice and also hot or atleast rich is what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:45 PM
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mentioning the pill that agrees with you the most would get me banned however your legit pushing there ideals right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:45 PM
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I still firmly believe the the difference at the very least isn't that big however there are significant less men who are attractive enough for just causal no strings attached sex then there are women who can get that. Basically women would say yes if the right men came along but most individuals aren't the right man in there eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:36 PM
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imagine a popular main stream show saying this about women or a minority and then they finally know what this is bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:48 PM
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this good back to who many here claim that women get upset when the suppossed loser class of men gets any sort of romantic attention at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:46 PM
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what leads to it is most fomo over a Chad, because there to much in there feeling to let him go regardless of said behavior. there also worried about the competition stealing him away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:16 AM
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many have more experience then you think and it's said experience that drives those conclusions. also even then zero experience is actually a kind of experience in a way, what you claim is the equivalent of telling a homeless guy he has no right to complain about the house market due to his evident lack of a abode.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:06 AM
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learning is exactly how many got to this point your forgetting that most start out as blue pilled and just do what society says should work but often doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:55 AM
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women created the six foot agenda not men. that like me claiming women are the only ones with negative views of high body count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:53 AM
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fair enough but this is also the Taking point of well... let's just say the rule 6 pill. where they say if you don't pass the looks bar it's over. only for said group to get flamed for "not trating women like humans" and misogynistic tendency that they love to virtue signal about. while proposely leaving out that none of that gets you in the door ro begun with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:18 PM
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women by and large also make things alot harder for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:13 PM
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actually many lesbians have the same complaints about dating women that straight men do. but yes things like being viewed as inherently safe does ease some of the tension for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:08 PM
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Why are you salty that being physically attractive is a significant component to sexual or romantic relationships? cause blue pilled ppl have been saying just treat women like humans and shower is all that's required. And ill be banned fo mentioning the groups thats been preaching this from the mountains as it breaks rule 6. No, you are not reasonable to think that now you should sneer at all those fools who didn't want you when you were ugly. You were ugly. If you want to prove yourself better …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:04 PM
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based and honest take
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:30 PM
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women have more voting power then men and trump was voted in partly because the Majority of white women voted for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:25 AM
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So ugly men with a good feminist mindset or whatever the fuck ya wanna call it = incel misogynist fuckboy who calls all women bitches but is tall and square chinned = never without options. once men learn this is when they discover that life ain’t fair and that kindness barely moves the needle unless backed up by more important traits thats the redpill btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:33 AM
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all relationships, are transactional the only difference is that women often aren't told that if they offer nothing then they deserve nothing. the I am the table talk however the idea that a men who give nothing will be an incel is probably one of the few points agreed on by every single pill, just what that something is whats different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:38 PM
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I actually mostly agree with the caveat that confidence has to be built off of something, (like looks or a preceived skill/possion that gives one so status. otherwise that's simply delusion. Basically confidence is a multipler and multiplying zero with zero still gets you nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:01 AM
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non blue pillers have been arguing that the just treat women like there human talk doesn't work unless you have the more important qualities backing them up for years and year now. goodness by itself is actually very low on the list of things that start relationships for men but many don't want to say the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:42 AM
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looks and status as well them you have the big three sociability, how ya look, height face, and status, wealth and being in the right circles or playing a theme usually bad boy. this matters way more then having the right polictal opinions and respecting women, otherwise we'd see a ery different group of men being incels then we do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:37 AM
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I really really don't understand why you view this as some zero sum game where both cannot simply exist why do you automatically believe that the idea of a nuclear family month must be anti Trans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:23 AM
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the truth is is it one the items on the list of improtant traits , however blue pillers greatly GREATLY exaggerated just how high it is on said list. as well as the fact that more often then not it isnt a disqualifier like more improtant traits are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:05 AM
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I mean how much sex are these less desirable men really getting let's be a bit honest here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:23 AM
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ironically here's the funny thing feminist don't. there some of the first people who will put claim real men need ABC but then conveniently proclaim that gender roles are bad when the agenda suits them. the idea that these people are lesser men is funny enough some of the very few things both red and blue pill conservatives and liberals all agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:13 AM
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as I've said this western patriarchy (so not middle eastern place and such) that feminists keep ranting about has more men suicide, homeless, and prison in mates that they female counterparts. never at any point in history before this have the oppressed faired worse then these oppressors in all these metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:00 AM
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did not expect a take this honest, are you sure your blue pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:38 AM
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just world nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:37 AM
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no no. no... that cant be it sometimes its also money and status
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:33 AM
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reminder that feminists were lobbying to redefine instants of force to penetrate as legally not being counted as rape. that means by said definition women couldn't possibly rape men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:25 AM
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I've said multiple times that most blue pilled advice is how women wish the that the guys there are already attracted to behaved and not what actually works. blue pill can be effective if your already In but isn't at all required in the first place it also often fails to get you in if you don't have more improtant qualities backing them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:00 AM
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ironically just described feminism. Anyways the redpill definitely has its problems but at its core actually tells you life isn't fair and that for most men they probably won't have value unless they're able to reach a certain level which is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:29 AM
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ya this ones a lie. you'll then need to explain why known abusers and corrupt politicians, keep getting more women dispite past actions. they idea that all women are simply tricked every single time doesn't actually hold water. and is mostly a lie to keep kind but ugly, crippled or otherwise low status men at bay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:11 AM
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the loneliness stats have been around for longer then the current Trump administration so no less abortion isn't the case, women never would have chosen those guys in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:00 AM
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having sex with some one you supposedly love is a herculean task? never beating the beta bux is actually real allegations. way different then expecting men to continuously chase and spend time and money and other parts of courtmenship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:37 AM
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I mean fair enough but by that logic men also don't owe women relationship I actually vividly agree with the notion that no one owed anything, and that life isn't fair. you've be very surprised with a large portion of the ppl who argue against this. this message ironically kind of validates the fuckboys dating strategies. though as this is how they see things in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:23 AM
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I disagree that they’re isn’t a scale for women, heavily agree that its more balanced out and much less extreme then on the men’s side of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 03:49 AM
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and who exactly pushes the idea of a men being worthless if he cannot fulfill said provider role. here's a hint the majority of it comes from women. yes the idea the women entering the work place increases competition for current jobs is true, however what you left out is that men who ethier can't find jobs or are place in less prestigious industries then there female peers also struggle to date as the women themselves view those men as lesser. Basically the more a women earns and the high up th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:50 AM
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because personality barely moves the needle unless it's companied by other more improtant traits. unless blue pills meant the guy comes off as say extremely autistic and unable to socialize which at the point its a black pill talking point and Not a blue pill one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:57 AM
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“men who wont adapt to the dating market are acting more like women. “You should take me as I am or FUCK OFF! redpills adapt or die theory right here, no one is obligated to take you as is so you better improve or be content being alone. this is redpill 101 you just don’t know what your debating tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:53 AM
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and that point it doesn't even more the needle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:20 PM
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when the alternative for many men is to be an incel they start to see though the lies, when these guys asked for help most in more blue pilled oriented circles are just tryna get them to shut up and stay away. afterall out of sight of of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:18 PM
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this goes back to the whole if blue pill worked for everyone no one would be redpilled. this is more just world nonsense, when will blue pillers learn that dating for men isn't some weird input system where you insert kindness, showers and whatever fucked feminist thought piece they wanna claim in the last slot and then output a girlfriend. I thought even you Lilith have said there's a group of men who will just fall due to immutable characteristics, which means ya know the truth but it just doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:16 PM
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reminding people again that there are dozens of men are now finically unattractive articles out there, and where are the good men content. basically even liberal women will still chain guys to gender roles that is if said men still care about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:54 PM
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I hate this narrative that women were forced to marry all across the world for centuries until a few years ago. That’s what they brainwash you with in feminism studies 101. They claim this then say redpilled concepts like beta bux aren't real btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:51 PM
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nah when terrible men who are tall rich or both end up with 5 baby mommas, and then end up dating a future 6th it does really start raise eyebrows on claims like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:47 PM
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Women don’t talk about guys looks with each other really?? What do you get from being so blatantly dishonest I wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:51 AM
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<image> This this meme right here
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:28 AM
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that's correct however the date still shows that 1-5% of men still get something like 80% of swipes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:18 AM
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they do its there main complaint in dating these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:12 AM
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"you want women to treat you like your hot or rich while you’re not hot or rich, that’s also being very picky." By this logic women shouldn't and cannot demand stacy treatment if they aren't stacy. AKA if she's getting pumped and dumped she deserves it kind of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:12 AM
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They do, they just blame women for the shitty women they are left with. Replace men with women and you just described the where are the good man epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:01 AM
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It doesn't matter to us if men we do not want, stay unwanted. The non blue pilled crowd has been trying to get this point across forever the goal then is if it’s possible to not be part of the losing class. as women especially so called blue pilled ones have never liked the losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:58 AM
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would love to hear what you believe is real adapting, also I can probably alright guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:56 AM
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I mean that’s fair but what women seemingly forget is that by the same logic if they aren’t as hot as Stacy then the best richest tallest men on the market also don’t own them a relationship because they opened there legs for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:37 PM
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I mean a based and red pilled take, is coming from lilith? your legit regurgitating red pilled talking points and listing it as some sort of gotcha and then patting yourself on the back. adapt or die cause life isnt fair and there will always be a losing class is legit red pill 101 idk how else to tell ya. The idea that women will just expect man as is more adjacent to blue pill speech then the people you actually believe your debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:32 PM
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It’s more so that blue pill and there adjacent groups claim it doesn’t happen and that women judge soling on personally traits like kindness, and faithfulness. many men just want to improve on the factors that actually more the needle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:22 PM
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This is also an extremely toxic way of looking at things. unfortunately the truth isn’t all rainbows and sunshine regardless of what one personality would prefer. You don't become a feminist to become laid. You become one because it's the right thing to do. I mean I could debate you on what feminism actually is and weather it really stands for the “right thing“ these days but that’s, a little off topic. Anyways I agree with the idea that being a feminist overall and getting laid have nothing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:18 PM
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rich high status and attractive men get pretty much whoever they want to date it’s just that simple. especially when we Can asked the same question back to you who are the nice feminist men getting? and I’ll answer it for you usually it’s ether beta buck or there incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:30 PM
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When the most popular men getting the most women are emotionally open empathetic male feminists, then perhaps men would be more motivated to be like that and stop questioning the mainstream narrative. unfortunately as of now these guys are the most likely to be incels, which contradicts the blue pilled just world message they like to preach. or another way to look at this, there where no incels on epsteins island. thats the real redpill, even if we blatantly ignore the experiences of all the lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:21 PM
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You’ve almost got it but we’re already at that point due to mainstream media and college already pushing misandry for quite some time which is what brought up the red pill in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:19 PM
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There is and it’s worse actually 80/20 is the old and out dated stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:52 AM
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Fair enough many will agree with this, as long as we also throw away the false notion that sex is only given to men who display the “correct behaviours“. And thus guys without it must be morally bankrupt with no exceptions. which has 2 preposes of one elevating women over the losing class of men while also upholding women are wonderful bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:44 AM
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Too many anti patriarchy and anti gender role people are often the first to criticize you for not adhering to your gender roles as a men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:19 AM
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Whose gonna tell him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:12 AM
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Ya need to stop shaming struggle guys for they‘re lack of personality and tell them the truth and said truth isn’t nearly as blue pilled as many hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:10 AM
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nothing like finding out that lib women’s first insult to a guy she doesn’t like for whatever reason is he must be gay. ironically tons of transphobia coming from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:05 AM
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feminism will ethier decrease heavily or change heavily at least on western place when many more start realizing that the women always oppressed men always oppressors frame work doesn't really hold true within these place anymore. they'll wonder what they're even fighting for at that point. There also the whole being a feminist in and of itself ranks very very low on a list of attractive qualities which more men are becoming aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:12 AM
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The issue with this claim is that we dont see a flipped loneliness epidemic of women In there 30s or even 40s that mirrors the men’s loneliness which we’d expect if these were the pearings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:40 AM
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We’ve been saying this for a while but blue pillers either strawman with look outside, eventhough you don’t know the exact relationship status of every individual ya walk by and are often mistaking friends, siblings, cousins etc, for couples. second, things like dating apps as well as are we share the same guy groups, and the many stories guys hear about the popular guy really does paint a picture. that doesnt mean that every normal guy is sexless (although it does seem to be leaning this way mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:34 AM
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I don’t know how you believe it’s that’s some sort of gotcha, like the Points suddenly refute each other, the man typically makes more in a relationship or at the very least he does long term, ergo if a women doesn’t have acccess to 100% of his earnings then she fairs worse after the divorce. the real problem that your missing is that the most broke least and least healthy men, mental illness, a disability are the so other issue are less likely to get married in the first place, and problem more…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:21 AM
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Divorced men lose money which often lowers there quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:03 AM
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Well fuck that depressing. I’m gonna take a point from the women on here and say at that point you might as well just be alone, and learn to live it’s what you’ve got. seems better then being disrespected and hated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:02 AM
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you've just proved his point isnt an femcel (although females probably do exist in very very small numbers) those are volcels so voluntary, which and I'm gonna be honest the vast vast majority of the time are below average women that are Chad only.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:31 PM
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ironically for so some each one of these points could be debated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:22 PM
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fair enough this however isn't the blue pilled statement ya think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:56 PM
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I mean just listen to messages you hear echoed through out TikTok, social media pipeline. Some of my favorites: “When men make more money they try to get closer to women, when women make more money they distance themselves from men.” “There are 1000 beautiful women for every 1 handsome man.” “A top tier man is the average woman.” Etc said it before and ill say it again this is the real redpill, it’s not tate its men listening to women and then after hearing these quotes over and over and then co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:41 AM
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Then feminist, need to stop lying that they have an alll encompassing gender quality movement and when it suits them, but then turn around and claim women only whenever ask to make good on the mens problem of the equality spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:32 AM
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Heavily degree that feminist care about all other equality in all aspects of society in the first place feminism is by and large a benefit women first group. the problem is when they claim its not in order to shut down men’s group or go out of there why to shit on individuals even considered The possibly of helping said other side or shut down anyone who questions anything there, doing (or just women in general).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:27 AM
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Being creepy isn't hard. Confidence is not how yall think about it either it isn’t hard for some and next to impossible for other the thing that also gets left out are the factors that happen before said approach, mainly looks and status, and which social circles your in or aren’t in, and if the women in question is aware of said status. And that's something men really don't understand what confidence actually means to women. confidence only starts mattering once you score high enough on the abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:14 AM
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But I'm also not a feminist, so I don't have to juggle the internal contradiction of simultaneously saying all gender norms are bad. majoity of feminist do actually believe all gender roles are bad just the female, ones if a man won’t or cannot perform his for whatever reason then they believes he’s just a loser. it’s a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:02 AM
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Racists are usually not “just taking precautions.” A lot of racism is built on ignorance, stereotypes, and hatred toward groups they barely even interact with. unironically again can claim the same for the cautious women in this scenario she’s trying to protect herself to ignorance, stereotypes and these day misandry. again same shit. Women’s caution around men is not coming from some abstract fear of a distant group. Women are raised around men, work with men, date men, live with men, and start…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:30 PM
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Everyone exercises caution around strangers. People lock doors, avoid sketchy situations, text friends their location, watch their drinks, and teach children stranger danger. You’re the one acting like women applying that same logic around unfamiliar men is uniquely immoral. my only stance is if one’s immoral then all are immoral. however you did kind of finally above meaning this it is fair game for anyone and everyone to be cautious around certain individuals due to immutable characteristics i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:58 PM
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I answered your comparison already. I said context, history, and power dynamics matter, which is why I do not think every form of caution toward every group is automatically interchangeable. it’s ok when I do it mindset which were already been over. And you literally proved my point. You can empathize with why Black people might be cautious around cops because of lived experience and patterns, but the second women talk about caution around men suddenly all context disappears and it’s just “bigot…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:47 PM
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If your Black friend told you they were cautious around cops because of lived experience, power dynamics, and awareness of patterns, would you accuse them of irrational hateful bigotry too? Yes or no? by definition yes, it is bigotry however I can emphasize with said experience, and you still have yet to answer why the scenario I gave a above this is all that different form the white guy being cautious around the black guy due to pasted experiences you’ve still danced arounded and haven’t mentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:22 PM
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So they preferred ugly women less than women preferred ugly men. not what that means. the correct conclusion is that men find far far less of the female gender ugly to begin with then women do with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:52 AM
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No it cant be from you lived experience you must watch Tate daily and could only come to said conclusion through him alone. also you must of never stepped outside in your life? And uh misogyny or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:35 AM
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If your Black friend told you they were cautious around cops, would you call them irrational and accuse them of hateful bigotry? Or would you understand that caution can develop from lived experience, power dynamics, and awareness of statistical realities without meaning they believe every individual cop is evil? So if say a white person so happened to have a negative experience with a black person or better yet knows so one else who had, then there bigotry is now justified Correct? it’s both sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:19 AM
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that's false,it just showed that men where less likely to message women outside they preferred range then women where for men the part that typical bloopees leave out is that men's perfered ranges is vastly bigger then women's perfered ranges. which for example means that a men is less likely to message a women in the bottom say 30 percentile of overall attractiveness then a women would be to message a men in the 70 percentile of overall attractiveness. which doesn't prove that women are less pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:06 PM
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you can thank the blue pill for that. the idea that women only see the heart be kind shower be friendly and you'll get a girlfriend and if not women will sense your true personality thus making you an incel is the ideology pushed by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:59 PM
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and this my friends is how you get redpill. they think it's tate by women like these do a better job advertising for the redpill then tate ever could.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:46 PM
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yet it is profoundly beyond the ability of quite a number of men on this subreddit who insist that a woman should be a trophy given to them for moral behavior. We call this the blue pill btw. Modern society and alot of women push this message no matter how false it actually is. It'd also why they can never explain why bad but rich and bad but handsome guys are never incels. But many of they less rich lesa attractive peers are. It's so bloopees can an hold onto there imagined moral high ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:19 PM
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They often times are obvious but are often overlooked but things like looks status and charisma are far more important then actually being a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:46 AM
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I said red pill/manosphere ecosystems often become ideologically closed in ways participants stop recognizing internally. And honestly, the fact that leftists constantly fracture, purity test each other, split into subgroups, and fight over theory is almost evidence against ideological uniformity, not for it. ironically you claim, that but refuse to even look into said manosphere that your critiquing. if ya did you’d know that the Manosphere is full of conflicting groups that never wanted to gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:16 AM
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ya unfortunately alot of bigtry and the classic rules for thee and not for me is why i wont really consider myself left leaning anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:07 AM
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Then the racist will claim that they just want to be protected from those may endanger them, (the whatever the race in question is) You keep acting like “women are cautious around unfamiliar men” means “women believe men are inferior human beings,” and those are not the same claim. So if a racist is extra careful around say a black or Hispanic person they are correct because they just wanna protect themselves same as refusing to interact with said person because again as you say it's about safel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:02 AM
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Are the racist justified since most claim it’s also for safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:56 PM
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It’s based on navigating a real-world pattern of risk tied to physical vulnerability and violence statistics. exact same nonsense racists use when they claim the guy who looks like they might be from a third world country just has to be a dangerous criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:43 PM
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what newleaf doesn’t get is that he’s defending the rhetoric that he’s also evil. since he seemingly agrees with yes all men. he also has yet to contest why having collective praise is such a bad thing especially when he also believe that’s men must have collective guilt. Typical feminist logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:24 PM
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Women can't do that now can they. your implying that no women has ever abandoned her child so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:19 PM
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And all men rely on women to create them. unless you implying that your secretly a plant all humans have 2 parents you where inside your days balls at one point btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:17 PM
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Because we’re not talking about the men who aren’t doing those things. does yes all men ring any bells. also this sadly rings very close to how say a racist would push there nonsense about how most black ppl are actually violent thugs btw by hey if it’s the right groups it’s all ok just tell the usually implied few good ones they there weren't talking about them and if they have a problem it’s cause there on of the violent and evil ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:13 PM
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I never argued: “if you disagree on one issue you are evil” “people must ideologically conform” or “if you are not with us you are against us” or gonna be surprised when you learn which party pushes this exact thing more then others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:41 PM
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But blue and purple pill spaces usually at least contain disagreement internally. Red pill spaces often feel ideologically closed in a way that people inside them no longer notice. disagreements in leftist spaces?? I think that heaviest most blatantly ironic post I’ve ever seen, which is actually sad has I generally have been primarily left leaning for most of my life, and still agree on several key points, by man you can never disagree or debate about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:39 PM
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Ive been saying that the numbers are worse then 80/20 and not better for like. Years now education gap and gen z women outearning men, TikTok and multiple other forms of media ducking on men as trash, the political divided created from the former, why women felt the need to have the tea app etc etc, yet blue pillars claim that 80/20 is outdated and with ZERO arguments to support there claims say it must be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:08 PM
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women are actually more at risk of being hurt by an intimate partner then a random incel. In first the vast majority of incels are harmless and usually pretty passive. most of the hate they get is from blue pilled/ feminist male exclusive just world crap and also certain people (especially but not always women) wanting to shit on the loser class of men I’m order to elevate themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:59 PM
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Blue pillars go immediately silent when you asked them why men like bundy aren’t incels, yet according to stats the blue pilled feminist lib dude is, narcissistic and wealthy dudes and criminals are much more likely to find a girl friend then they the More agreeable guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:24 PM
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while i do see good points listed here the idea that all attention men (AND YOU FORGOT IF THEY GET ANY) is automatically genuine and respectful is a blatant lie, it's more all women are wonderful bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:42 PM
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the dude above is just correct, while I can empathize with with the safely concerns it is eyebrow raising when criminals and corrupt politicians are seemingly never with without a girlfriend. while many feminist left leaning meeker dudes are incels, one the other hand we consistently see the wrong group success then get gaslit into thinking all incels don't see women as human which couldn't be further from the truth.​
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:20 PM
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so your claiming if they have sex they should be OK with the consequences is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:31 AM
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Ah no it just means that each individual men that claims he’s attractive has a greater effect on the total number.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:16 AM
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um ok, then just don’t date them is what I’d say no one really owes anyone anything at the end of the date well expect taxes to the government that is, it’s one of the guarantees of life after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:09 AM
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ah yes the Blue pills male exclusive just world, that’s what it usually all comes back to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:04 PM
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the prediction is a marriage market in total collapse with wealthy women universally single. That is not what the data shows. College educated women marry at higher rates than non college educated women, not lower. well Yes actually it’s happening slowly there also gonna be a few wealth women who end up sharing the same wealthly guy, as well as an increase of ppl on both sides staying single in the end. and again less edcuated men are less likely to be married, so you've missed the point With th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:14 PM
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Women are statistically outpacing men in lots of metrics, including home ownership and college degrees. The idea that women are still "gold digging" right now is ludicrous. i have no idea why you believe that these points must contradict each other. Even if you don’t want to listen to a redpilled bro about this issue there are literally dozens of men are Financially losers articles out there, and where are the good men content. so basically wealthy women look for even wealthier men this is the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:27 PM
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What comment are you talking about, and what are you so sure proves your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:37 AM
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And most men never date a 10 percentile women your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:35 AM
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Let's use an average 50th percentile man as an example. At any given time, there are tons of 10th percentile women who would happily date him. now think of someone who isn’t making at least 6 figure plus and try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:49 AM
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There are literal serial killers who get love letters from women and men. Both genders do that shit. It's a gotcha cause things like blue pill and usually other left wing spaces claim nonsense like not showering, beating women and voting Trump is the only thing that created incels. When in actuality it's the lack of physical or social attraction. This makes it really nice for things like redpill and others to show and pount to the typical politician or attractive criminal not being incels as an …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:02 AM
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they push this agenda , then claim men are now weak and pathetic then get angry when said men turn redpilled, when there the ones working hard to do to prove said redpill correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:39 PM
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Feminist men are thriving, they are happy and they are getting laid, Uh about that..... more liberal men are single and sexless then conservative so much you be a kind feminist men = get a girl firend
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:51 PM
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well again it's blue pillers here who have a very vague definition of what blue pill is to the extreme, especially when they some times agree with redpilled taking points making just not redpilled flawed in any of itself. redpills definition is more concrete especially since the term came from said redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:29 PM
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its the blue pill that claims this again I don't disagree with your above statement btw however it's an extremely redpilled coded take just saying. I have absolutely no idea why you guys keep lying to yourselves, but the vast majority of people have never told you that. At best, you heard it one time from one person and you never let it go Again with the classic blue pilled women, insisting that a men's experience could never exist. That's like someone claiming that they dont know any racists th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:24 PM
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its the blue pill that claims this again I don't disagree with your above statement btw however it's an extremely redpilled code take just saying. I have absolutely no idea why you guys keep lying to yourselves, but the vast majority of people have never told you that. At best, you heard it one time from one person and you never let it go AAgainwiththe classic blue pilled women, insisting that a men's experience could never exist. That's like a men saying I don't know any racists therefore racis…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:22 PM
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You guys severely overestimate the amount of men that have level of sway over women. That's a Chad in romance novels. I thought that is was a figment of a redpillers imagination and that men were only judged on character, the idea that different groups of men get different treatment is redpilled at best and.. well the other group at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:11 PM
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If where taking blue pill specifically then these people say things to: protect women’s self image (women must be presented as wonderful and correct almost no matter what, unless what was said or done happens disagrees with said message in above) be a benefit for what a women might get out of a man, or what benefit to her by weeding out perceived losers. if points one and two are met and said advice so happens to actually be helpful to the man in question blue pill will allow it However it certa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:50 PM
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Men are more likely to seek out the truth even If it isn’t all rainbows and sunshine, that’s actually how the redpill came into being in the first place. its actually the women centric advice and spaces that claim your perfect no matter what and you deserve better and not the redpill spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:38 AM
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You can't blame women for the cowardice of men. ya cannot claim this unless you know the person very well. by you definition we could also sit here and claim women’s usually passivity is also cowardice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:44 AM
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The vast majority of women are extremely vague about it and actually, just send indirect hints at the very least most of the time. they aren’t personally asking guys out the vast majority of the time with a few expeditions of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:39 AM
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Your correct, but again those are those supposed outdated conservative nonsense or at least that’s what they claim it is cause gender roles bad. You can't blame women for the cowardice of men. and again why can’t women its 2026 not 1802 why are women so so desperate to push only male gender roles while also claiming that gender roles are bad and sexist, and outdated conservative bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:10 PM
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Young women have already been radicalized, by this claim, if we where to hold them to the some criteria that your tryna hold men too. however, technicality it isn’t since men hate is the norm, which is by the way is also the main contributing factor that making guys walking away for feminist shit. also If we look mainly at gen z there’s never been a point in history where the oppressers have been more broke and majority low paying jobs, less educated, serve more time in prison/ have been convict…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:59 PM
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no, people don't like misogyny site like wiki skew heavily liberal. and will actually disallow any definitions that don’t fit there agenda thats how you get hate for shit like mgtow which is really just learning to live without romance in one’s life. its also why you won’t see more misandrist groups being called out or presented as such on said sites. maybe that will change with everything happening around men these days who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:53 PM
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I mean it’s 2026, brother women can ask a men out, or at the very least send signals to the guys they actually want. I thought that conservatives where the only one pushing gender role nonsense, and outdated philosophies. Well at least that’s what they claim, so then why are you defending it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:47 PM
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I think your statement projects how women believe in said situation and then projects on how to men, ever once have I heard a men handle a situation where he’s the cheater like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:36 PM
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When you realize that the game truly was never fair, but you can do something to change it (well probably that is depends on who) that’s why you leave the blue pill and embrace what’s true. they say wisdom is understanding both the things you can change and cannot chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:07 AM
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this has been known for ever again we actually have more left wing feminist incels then right wing ones, cause traditional men that could be masculine are stull seen as the most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:30 AM
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alot of them start with blue pilled advice but it doesn't work for them. again most bluepill/ blued adjacent men imagine that guys wake up decide to hate women for not reason maybe vote Trump and only then dos there dating life's suddenly callospe. when in reality they were blue pilled first Stull remained incels and then looked for alternatives. way to many terrible men with girls friends for blue pill to be the end all be all many claim it to be. there's still more leftist incels then right wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:28 AM
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that's redpilled advice at best and is actually the very core of that one other pill the mods don't like me calling by name, but is actually the true opposite of blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:10 AM
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RP exists because there will always be losers who aren't chosen. Mostly claims from that other pill that I'm not allowed to say by name. Also you actually almost got it after this the question then becomes how can I not be a loser cause following Blu pill advice more often than not doesn't fix that for those who are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:08 AM
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Are men actually providing that cause so far I only see men abandoning their wives still to this day. Women initiate about 80% of divorces. It's actually them abandoning their husband's not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:32 AM
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I mean there are literally feminist screeching kill all men how can you in even slightly good faith claim that isn't hate speech. at that point its hard to really claim anything is really being wrongly interpreted as ppl have just been conditioned to be less empathic towards the "wrong groups." like imagine if kill all men was say kill all black people, or that men or bear was black person or bear I'm guessing you finally see an issue with said statements and bigotry within them. hell there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:06 AM
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Ya mean like kill all men, or prominent feminists leaders claiming that men need to be locked away in concentration camps?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:13 AM
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The afbb Mindset has always been prevalent, I’ve heard quite a few times even in womens spaces or talking to women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:56 PM
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I mean what you just described sounds a lot like looksmaxing ya know a notoriously NOT blue pilled take, I’m also not allowed to say which pill it fits the most so we’ll leave it a that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:41 PM
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the blue pillars heavily struggle to define what blue pill themselves, and thus just say it’s not red pill, when asked questions like redpill believes confident and assertive men will do better in dating, blue pillars often don’t at the very least doesn’t usually push back against it, although that could be considered red pill think, which contradicts it’s self redpill defines blue pill as the mainstream advices that’s where you have shit like be kind, shower be patience and considerate and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:33 PM
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the Blackpill was correct this whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:05 PM
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To BPers, "blue pill" is basically disagreeing with TRP the problem is you first claim this in the OP the claim this. then you claim this plenty of blue pillers also advocate for male self-improvement. Plenty of BP'ers, self-included, also believe in pretty privilege(that isn't a fringe idea, but is actually a mainstream belief which agrees with redpill taking points thus if you believe as such you’ve already contradicted your own definition of what blue pill is. So now blue pill isn’t only not …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:47 PM
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this is the reason women are picker in general. and I've heard it as an explanation as to why redpill pushes talking points like 80/20 btw this just justifies said talking point and is very much in line with the above, because yours explaining the why this happens part of the equation. the emasculation issue is by and large mostly one that women put on themselves, once they become successful they start to see less successful men as beneath them. it's the once you've reach the top there's isn't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:55 PM
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when there more single and sexless guys then women yes. despite what blue pill claims it's not only the kindest most feminist men who gets the girl infact plenty of data point shows the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:37 PM
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welcome to why men leave the blue pill and join things like redpill I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:34 PM
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Attraction doesn’t necessarily mean or involve superficial looks for women like it does for men. My only question to this is why do you feel the need to lie. No women aren't blind and do judge on looks and it's actually harsher the men on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:31 PM
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just world fallacy, in response to a question. and just denying a point or arugement, or a general trend cause as not true because of some anadolical. example you know a guy who knows a guy that got a girlfriend dispite being autistic and wheel chair bound therefore no men has ever been negatively judged on said traits and only misogynist who don't shower can have problems with dating. anyone who disagree with a feminist talking point or points out any that theres any part of society that doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:01 PM
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where were you when the all the articles on men are financially unattractive forms where written. there this huge thing going on rn now where women keep complain about men's media have conventionally attractive women and change only to them place the same cookie cutting men into basically all there media. Basically men are policed in there regard far far more then women are the vast majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:20 PM
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pretty sure this just agrees and solidifies his talking points also this is kind of just more redpill checkmarks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:02 PM
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said this multiple times if you cant even define it then it could mean everything and nothing blackpill is also blue pill by this very definition as it's also simply isn't TRP. Things like pretty privilege has to be a lie, according to this as well same for things self improvement, boosting your dating prospects as again your definition is just not redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:08 AM
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ah yes I see the section now, page 8 3rd paragraph of the redpill handbook, it claims here that women where never disadvantaged within the workplace. but regardless I actually very much agree with the vast majority of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:54 AM
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chiristain can still tell what there ideology is and means to them is the difference, they all believe in a God they all follow atleast a portion of the Bible and other things etc etc. we are not redpill is so vague that it could mean anything including blackpill or saying something like rape is good since there nothing about rape in redpill. you start to see what the problem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:13 AM
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I mean technically if we take the definition that most blue pillers are spouting in here as legit then black blue is blue as it's not redpilled as well. and blue pill is anything that isn't redpill apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:09 AM
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redpill claims that those women will get sex but zero commitment from said high value men, as there will always be a group of guys down for easy sex. The issue for women is that they then think those guys will marry them which they don’t. men are far less likely to care about there partners income then it is the other way around however rich people usually hang around others from wealth backgrounds which gives them a larger chance of meeting other Rich people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:49 PM
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Red pilled men are low value losers who are typically ugly and choose the red pill because it allows them to externalize their lack of success with women I thought according to blue pill only misogynists who where allergic to showers could be incel what does being ugly have to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:42 AM
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we can prove that the earth is round. We actually have Plenty evidence for it just like we have evidence that some really are betabuxed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:34 AM
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I mean blue pill claims to be about nuance but then states that most ppl get married and live happy ever after, and then proceed to claim case closed and please don’t look any further. since things like divorce rate (mostly initiated by women btw) and relationship happiness also being lower for women does point to the idea of settling and miserable statements being very real. thats why blue pillers like yourself usually cover there ears and go lalala when concepts like betabux gets brought into …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:31 AM
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believes that morality and often what some would consider “right thing” is what determines one’s dating and relationshi success.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:12 AM
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Women aren't demanding 6 foot+. That's just your algorithm feeding your scripted nonsense and rage bait. Stop falling for bullshit. for your first point you still haven’t answered this below on top of this what if you just so happen to be shorter then the average women then what? for the other paragraph (the 3rd one about your husband) my argument already above already address it here: I mean agreed, but I could just urge that this is one of several things that makes said timing, luck and emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:39 AM
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Men on average are taller than women. I mean with the amount of women demanding not just that but guys taller then 6” that changes rather quickly, on top of this what if you just so happen to be shorter then the average women then what? If you're awkward around people that's going to impact everything from dating to employment. I mean agreed, but I could just urge that this is one of several things that makes said timing, luck and emotion next impossible for someone. And also proves dating is fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:35 AM
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Just world fallacy(male exclusive ofc) and women are wonder effect at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:27 AM
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height or some perfect jawline or the right amount of confidence. then you need to explain, why does the guy who has possesses all 3 of those have a near universally easier time dating then the one who lacks the 3. surely it’s not that surprising that the first has multiple dating opportunities and women interested in them and the second struggles to and rarely finds anyone if he can find anyone. MAYBBEE with high amounts of wealth withstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:10 AM
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Fair by the thing is he probably won’t put up with this if he both has a group of women who are willing to fuck him fast cause he’s attractive, and secondly all you give him and have to offer is cuddles, or I guess if he likes it enough in some situations he’ll just take both, cuddles from you sex from the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:52 PM
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I mean iconically the groups that have been saying this gets called misogynistic and controlling funnily enough. Just for many women to come to the conclusion that they where apparently right along I guess Which I find funny. also alot of this has to do with which men are getting most of the causal sex, those guys who score the highest in looks and wealth really don’t have to give a shit about committing or how that particular women feels as another one, who will come by and gladly open there le…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:45 PM
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If women hate causal sex then simply put why do they keep having it? And why are some so desperate to defend promiscuous women, y’all know if it’s this bad you can just stop right? simply put it’s cause they don’t hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:30 PM
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honesty you kind of correct about the birthrates, affecting who will inherent which worldviews however you don't seem to liberal yourself so why do you care, is my question, if it's that big of an issue for you let things take there course.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:16 AM
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china's actually recently discovered this and is tryna censor female media like some western companies try to censor men's media. mainly due to the terrible birthrates and women's standards being even higher then the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:25 AM
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anyone is free to have any standards they like but if they don't bring much then they should also expect to be disappointed. I think men usually understand this point way before women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:21 AM
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as I've said multiple times its the cart before the horse situation. Men don't just wake up see Andrew tate talk about a lived experience no one's ever had and then decide ya I do great with women so let me follow him for no reason, and only then be incels like blue pillers claim They already started out struggling with men even while following the mainstream advice only to see other who don't do most if not any of said advice and still succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:14 AM
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genZ are too young to be partnered, youngest is 14 y/o so it's kind of expected your correct however most of said studies usually only include individuals around 18-30ish so that doesn’t change his point. no, actual statistics show that the average woman is paired up with the average man. You just can't get around that fact. although times are changing and this probably won’t be the case in about a decade or a decade and a half. (And no not because shits getting better but because men are giving…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:15 PM
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He’s right we can firmly conclude a trend for where most of these studies will end by now. you‘ll never find a study where the short, bald, weak chin men are the sexiest males within a diverse group (unless somehow the whole group is well below average looking) so ya we pretty much are aware of what’s physically attractive and what isnt and the trends are mostly very fixed at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:01 PM
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behaviour is overrated and looks are still somewhat underrated alright behaviour isn’t technically that overated, but It is the traditional blue pilled sense. the confident assertive kind of socially aggressive dude will usually be rewarded (assuming he has other thing going for him and isn’t say butt ugly and/or very autist) however the blue pilled to feminist a little to passive and agreeable guy will struggle heavily unless he’s sits at teh top of either looks or wealth and status
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:52 PM
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thats still extremely vague and completely meaningless, you’ve just made the definition more confusing now it’s just not red pill (again already quite vague given my example above) to it’s not red pill but only sometimes. Which could easily be interpreted as anything and everything at this point, again meaning its effectIvely meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:48 AM
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well first Bundy only got his fame and large female following AFTER he was convicted and they showed his mugged shot to the world, so the women couldn’t have known excuse doesn’t fly. Second Even if you were correct, (which you weren’t) all you‘ve really done is defeat the blue pill argument about safety or misogyny being the primary reason for why men struggle to date at all/are incels cause if women couldn’t know but are still dating (and it often is said dangerous men) then it’s clear not tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:12 AM
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That’s some fantasy you’ve made up for yourself. That’s the equivalent of me saying nonsense like any women who wants a tall smart well off men is weak, broke, and retarded. a rich men isn’t a men but a status symbol that is hers to use for material gain and social validation. ya see how that sounds dumb. People are free to want what they want I thought well at least you love to claim that for women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:55 PM
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If women are allowed to select traits they want why can’t men. Crazy that the same group that demand or and the very least will turn a blind eye to women needing men at a certain, height, build, face income assertiveness, etc, will then turn around and cry misogyny when men have any demands of there own whatsoever as it messes with women’s duo matting strats.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:47 PM
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At the point bp is so vague that it really means nothing at all, so if redpill says things like confident and assertive men are successful, your claims would simply mean that bluepill needs to state that confidence is bad?, since that would be a not red pill point. I hope you start to see why its confusing the definition is so broad and open ended that it loses all meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:31 PM
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The type of woman you are talking about will totally get a man as long as she’s still fun and horny. So its not “too late”. get a men and get the men you want are to very different things and even then the formers becoming less likely as many men are giving up on being betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 07:54 AM
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And yet how many women end up complaining about a chad pumping a dumping them. they get upset when those same causal sex chads aren’t willing to wife her up. basically many women are complaining about subpar men will also Being subpar, then they complain about being owed relationships while stating that men aren’t owed relationship, funny how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 07:52 AM
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and plenty of women don’t date like this? It’s no different then the I’m the prize girls who also screech about what a real men has got to be, or have while also simultaneously complaining that single moms and very obese women deserve better or it’s an act of misogyny. Women never ask how this is beneficial to the men who would want to Be with them long term, which they should especially if said men has a lot of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 07:29 AM
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Most understand THAT SHALLOW PEOPLE EXIST. The solution is to avoid shallow people. And the best way to avoid shallow people is to not be shallow yourself. You have to gravitate towards people who also don’t care about the superficial. Crazy that this answer most of your questions and rants on here. On top of this most of the evidence we got shows that it's women and not men who are the picky gender. Again if you only followed ur own advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 06:50 AM
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if that was true known criminals should all be incels, that safety sensor ethier doesn't exist is is so badly calibrated that it ends up being the opposite. the problem is the ppl who continuously state this immediately go slient when questions like "why aren't men like Ted bundy incels gets asked"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:17 AM
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alternatively women insult men who are sexless by calling them incels lets not forget that part. giving up on fuckboys for women means basically completely forfeiting any chances with the tallest wealth most attractive looking guys around which most deem as not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:47 AM
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The vast majority of men will never be hot enough to get away with a shitty personality. Stop expecting Jemery Meeks treatment without Jeremy Meeks looks. if it was that common to be that hot, he would not become a supermodel and a sugar baby. fair enough but cant we say the same thing about women. why do they expect men to treat them as if they where margot robbie (and more often the not top tier ones who much actually qualify) if they aren’t t margot robbie. many women love to preach about how…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:11 AM
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Has it ever occurred to you that maybe your just chasing the wrong men, idk a lot of your post seem like trauma dumps. maybe just maybe your own advice about vetting would work for you in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:03 AM
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shes Or wrong in what she says be it does go both ways a lot I was about to say the same thing seems like she been venting about an ex for awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:56 AM
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You might be reaching in a few of your conclusions, there were weridos or sometimes women actually do fake helplessness to get the attention of a guy there fancy and they were misreading the ques. could really be any of these honestly best not to overthink it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:00 PM
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IF you change words to mean anything you want to then they don't mean anything and you all sound like idiots. so… like how incel gets thrown around here and other places.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:35 PM
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This is correct actually and one of the few blue pilled talking points that actually is correct. however while usually very needed if confidence is all you’ve got going for you that your gonna have a usually bad time, confidence also has to be backed by something of meaning. basically being confident with nothing as going for you only gets you the doorstep of a heavily guarded and enforced door.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:32 PM
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there is a limit or a floor so to speak (the black pill) but yes most men can improve and work on themselves inorder on have more success.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:21 PM
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Not every man knows something that why you listen to the successful one though who do that the general idea. and much more useful then many many women who will either just say what feels good, or more likely whatever’s needed to upkeep the women are wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:16 PM
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But its men who are either assholes or the nice guys who get passed up. Since its so binary to these guys you are either good, get no women or are shitty and get multiple women It’s less so about good and bad and more so about attractive and unattractive, neither is technically inherently bad. Because its basically either hot shit men who are good at getting women. Or ugly men who are nice who can't get women, according to red pill narrative again attractive vs unattractive good and bad is actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:11 PM
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It’s only forced if you believe women have no say in dating whatsoever. I thought the women here go on and on about how there free to make whatever choices they please, so yes the shitty dating landscape is your fault just as much as it would be the top guys who don’t commit, that is if you care for the Blame game that much. redpill correctly points out that you can’t change others point so you might as well change yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:04 PM
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I think what gets glossed over is that many women try to uphold the WoW effect over telling you what really works for men and gets them the progress they seek. That’s when you hear more blue pilled centric advice like treat her as a human and just be nice, to which many, many men try and still come out the other end as incels. then they see men who don’t follow those rules and wonder wait whys he so successful while doing none of what I was told? That’s when they look for other sources. the idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:51 AM
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unless I’m mistaken I believe you also said they you fucked different men in your youth and then got when said stable guy for his personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:18 AM
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No, they don’t. Yes they do No, they don’t, because the red pill knows theyre misogynistic assholes about everything they talk about. Redpill states that those who score to low in looks and status must improve said area or they won't date or at best be selected as a beta later in the future. Many misogyny claims these days just means things that disagrees with the WoW effect. yelling but there Misogynistic assholes doesn't actually make there statements any less true and again your, above paragr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:07 AM
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What is a mediocre guy doing thinking he's no different than Henry Calville in the dating world? Henry is rich, hot, and talented. its the blue pill that claim this doesn’t happen. Red pill says improve and you might just become someone worth treating better. Keyword: SOME. And he's EXCEPTIONAL. welcome to red pill I guess No they don't. They do all that AWALT, hypergamy, AF/BB bullshit because it soothes the ego of their followers to blame women that their mediocre asses aren't owed special tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:52 AM
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Male exclusive just world. Aleast if the individual in question is male he has to only recieve what he deserves based on his actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:37 AM
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Well that one actually isnt fully true otherwise betabux wouldn’t be a thing, but yes women generally dont perfer the settled for guy, but other factors societal pressure to settle down cost of living and/or needing an extra partner To look after chads kid are all driving factors that affect coupling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:33 PM
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Levi is 5”4 and anime fangirls obsess over him. Manjiro Sano is also 5”4 and he’s the most loved character in Tokyo Revengers. oh do you watch anime or something? still id argue that those characters are all presented in a male centric space, even then theres male diverse women then what you’d find in women centric spaces, like I could use small breast just a quick example (even if admitted bouncing breast are the norm) to slap a short list. Ruika for bleach rei for evangelion, nezuko demon slay…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:26 PM
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They don’t do they often are aware that they can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:43 PM
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That means a lot of women lose access to the few chads entirely and have and thus have to yield them to the other girls. many feel like there eternal locked in a game of chicken cause if she won’t do it quick the chad in question can simply get someone who will, it’s supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:42 PM
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Women usually forget this part the chad you see being flirty in the apps or at the clubs are usually the players the chads who aren’t like this are either already in relationship or as women like to put it know there worth and will not bother with average and below average women. faithful monogamous chads actually do date all like women, meaning most of them are actually invisible to that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:56 PM
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This is more, male exclusive just world shit that’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:51 PM
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We have incels, neckbeards, and neckbeards trying to dox a trans woman for being a game dev for Fable becaude the newest Fable game isnt featuring a hot woman. currently theres no push to force women’s media to be more inclusive. for 1 if the next big drama or smut was forced in include 5’4 bald and weak chinned men as the male leads we can all guess the reaction to that. Men were more likely to use AI for a romantic partner. men are mostly by an large not choosing AI over women but over being s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:47 PM
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Those red pill spaces were so attractive because they could blame women for their problems and be supported. what problems? I thought you said that If one isn’t redpilled in the first place they shouldn’t have dating problems at all. Why would they start off blaming nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:54 AM
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I mean your not wrong but it’s actually women who have this issue way worse and pretty much all arguments around whose the picker gender supports me on this. If youre not exceptional, stop expecting exceptional treatment. Just because anime protagonists can be mediocre and get a bunch of female chasing after him does not mean thats realistic. I don’t disagreed but again this is women with their smut far, far more then it is men. “The never settle girl“ and “know your worth kind of women fall int…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:24 AM
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I mean your not wrong but women have this issues WAAYYY worse then men do but. Large margin. as they never settle and wait for they’re perfect 6,6,6 prince who apparently also wont have any standrads of his own cause that’s huh… misogynistic or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:01 AM
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We call that the black pill and your right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:59 AM
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This is basically what’s called an ad hominem in debates. Misogyny can both be very real and both be used as a sort of scapegoat sort of answer to any accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:58 AM
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If theses were the only situation that where misogyny was claimed you’d be right however it is quite often abused in and attempt to hand wave away any claims that a women could do no wrong what’s so ever. the actually answer is that both misogyny exists and is very real, but there are bad actors who cry misogyny in and attempt to get away with a particular behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:54 AM
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I mean if we look at the info available many men especially in your age group ethier cant date or have just given up. So that may explain some things. I also wouldnt be surprised if it’s also another one of those “the only men I see as men are chads type of situation”, if so it’s not a shock whatsoever that 21 year old chads are having there own hoe phase so to speak, as these men who are always in demand and are that age will act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:40 AM
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The black pill happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:20 AM
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I wish you the best of luck on your journey brother but I will be 100% honest with you that being autistic is the single most black pilling trait that 1 can have, not thats it’s impossible, if your very high functioning but it will be a very very hard task as life simply isn’t fair, nor is a good life and the things you desire rewarded to good people. for example I’m older brother would Be consider a long functioning autist person. hes never had and never will have a girl simply put.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:17 AM
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my point and the part your missing is these men were already incels, and more often then not very blue pilled ones before the rest of your made up scenario takes place then they discover redpill. not they one learnt redpill and instantaneously catapulted there way into inceldom the second after, that’s the just world nonsense am critiquing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:50 AM
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And then the reason they are struggling stops being this mystery. They made poor choices and those choices came with consequences. Yep as predicted here we go again with the male exclusive just world and cart before the horse situations. you still haven’t addressed why or how it’s possible that men who do none of this are still incels or why men who only started acting like this recently where already incels for years before. my guess is ya do know the answer but it just again doesnt fit well wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:16 AM
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Not every women has a lot to offer just like not every man has a lot to offer, however if you got a large list that’s often very similar to what other women have the you must present yourself as better then your competition or you’ll just be single, since you don’t offer much. men usually get that point across much easier then women, you can thank society for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:56 PM
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well again I never said your wrong just too many women demand the world and offer very little in return which is actually the usual women’s dating issue. If all he offers is sex. this is how a lot of what some would call top men see women which leads us back to how supply and demand works. A lot of women simply never ask “hey what do I as a person offer in return” if they cannot answer that the question themselves it’s gets anwsered back for them as all she has to offer is a quick lay then on to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:39 PM
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I am expected by you to want a man i don't desire... because? He doesn't want the burden of changing himself to meet my emotional needs, yet expects me to meet his emotional needs? your above paragraph explains that you expect this very thing from the men you date, they change and they meet your needs and you don’t have to do shit for them. The thing is yall can not better yourselves but we are under no obligation to date yall this is the redpills improve or die theory they bring up. again your …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:20 PM
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this is the thing if the average person has access to this info them large rich companies should to.and the fact that 90% of those employees aren't female, leads me to Believe that the other explanation are correct. no way the rich and greedy knows about the pay gap and are willing losing billions upon billion annual because hiring the one with the dick just feels good all while such an obvious loophole is right in front of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:22 AM
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in that case they should also include the homeless as well which would also significantly alter said stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:16 AM
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you ever heard of the just world fallacy not very different then how some religious people push concepts like karma. crazy how we can admit that a women might be unsafe walking home, a black men maybe unjustly treatef by the police, a lgbtq member might be ostracized by a conservative family and all people struggle aren't all just lazy gamblers, yet the second you mention that a struggling men might just not be a peice of shit suddenly they think it must only be due to his personality. they do k…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:54 AM
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I mean thanks for being more honest then most women here I guess. I mean this is the shit that leads more guys to redpill if not just black pill outright but hey atleast your truthful. sucks to suck I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:20 AM
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was thinking this is the Door dash guy, he really does have those tinted glasses on that cannot possible see a world where every breathing women isn't a Saint, honest dudes a great example of one of the biggest issues with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:25 AM
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sees dude bending over backwards to justify every female wrong possible. yep the flair checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:22 AM
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again with the usually cart before the horse as even in the situations where your are correct (which even then is the minority) most of those men did start out blue pilled but there lived experiences cased said hatred. which isn't the best thing tbf but hey women get validated for saying all men rape all men aren't loyal etc etc due to there experiences so if we aren't being hypocrites then they should be allowed as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:45 AM
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my bad that wasn't a personal attack, I was just tryna convey that in alot of betabux situations the wife isn't truly sexless that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:17 AM
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wives refusing to have sex for YEARS who says shes refusing to have sex for years? well maybe with you she is but not in general usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:43 PM
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I never said that misogynist don't exist, just that it actually has very little to do with one being an incel or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:02 AM
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Like I told everyone on this thread, don't post your struggles where hateful incels post their struggles and hate because people will assume you are one of them. i fixed the issue in this sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:29 AM
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You almost got bur forgot it’s a male exclusive just world. Women who may have problems exist due to the patriarchy and there supposed lack of rights in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:09 AM
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A neutral normal man who is unsuccessful will never have people say he's disgusting and evil out of the blue. they literally do as blue pill believes good men = gets dates, and bad men = incels, while reality tells us that simply isn’t the case and we have tons of counter examples. You are omiting a key part where some of these unsuccessful men turn into hateful misogynistic men. They rant about how women are this, women are that. your unironically contradicting your first point blatantly which …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:02 AM
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It’s brought up because it’s an attack on blue pill. The blue pill states the only bad men are sexless and unwanted while the red pill shows that plenty of non blue pilled guys who probably are just pieces of shit actually do great with women. If blue pill was correct plenty of tall rich and famous men shoils be incels, and there should be atleast some dating experiments where, that short bald Asian janitor guy is liberal enough to be drowning in options, like he we have dating experiments where…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:27 AM
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personally not very religious myself, I’m just pointing out how it’s both funny and hypocritical that libs will bash Christianity but praise and defend muslims when one group clearly, CLEARLY hates them more then that other. For example try being say an lgbtq person in a heavily Christian area very being one in a heavily muslim area and tell me which one will treat you worse, if you can even survive the Muslim one that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:01 AM
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Not all conservatives are Christian for one secondly, wait till libs realize what Muslim cultures have to say about women, they won’t be so strongly against Israel if they did know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:19 PM
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I don't like personally inserting myself into someone else's life and claiming I understand their lived experiences much better then they do. but... if you think this should apply to both genders (meaning we also have to include women) I guess I can applaud you for consistency atleast. you do believe that women are also capable of saying bullshit or atleast gross over exaggerations as well don't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:01 AM
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Most want to be blue pilled by when reality hits them hard they decide it’s no longer worth living in falsehood. Better the hard cold truth then a comforting lie they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:55 AM
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So now we’ve gone from beta bux is all in your head and red pill is full of shit, to betabux has been real all this time but umm… let’s just not call it that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:29 PM
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He’s blue pilled so he has to dodge the question as answering truthfully heavily contests the male excessive just world, that they push.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:01 AM
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Blue pilled think is just as black and white. that’s why whenever a men simply says something like “hey I have problems attracting women”, they immediately attack his lack of showers and perceived misogynistic tendencies. the obvious counter to this is why do women experience bad relationships, and problems within relationships with what they say are supposedly bad men, if allegedly only bad men are being filtered out. Those types of men have existed for hundreds of thousands of years and will f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:48 AM
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what your saying is simply the truth however I’ve learnt that most of Reddit and other places HATE the truth as long as it doesn’t subject women to seeming morally superior. Thats why the blue pill doesnt have an answer to why guys like trump and musk aren’t incels, but many, many blue pilled feminists men, are or they know others who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:43 AM
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i Mean by the same logic they probably won’t be satisfied with no one ethier. Having a wider appeal lets you choose from something, having no appeal lets you choose from nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:36 AM
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I mean it can but the species will probably just go existent, or st best will have a dating dynamic much much worse then modern day, where only the 1% of guys who actually ever get approached ever are having any sort of relationship, or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:37 AM
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people definitely mask more when not in anonymous spaces duh. However alot of the opinions do in fact carry over. Also from my experience women are much more likely to spread there misandry due to getting significantly less backlash then a misogynist men would get.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:29 PM
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I mean fair just like how woman are allowed to say sexist stuff in real life and they just do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:26 PM
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By “relationship” I meant long term romantic relationship, not a fuck buddy or fling. alright this changes the question quite a bit however i still kind of answered already. They have better sex with guys that they are actually attracted to physically. If this is the guy whose she’s having a long term relationship with then yes, if it’s more of a betabux situation then no. So my answer is still depends but not necessarily, dead-bedrooms exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:17 AM
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They have better sex with guys that they are actually attracted to physically. So sure I agree, as even something like a being a fuck w buddy or a random flung on a tuesday is a kind of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:01 AM
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on top of this if the advice "fails" then it's vague enough that they can claim that said advice was never followed correctly in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:16 AM
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such as trying to speak to her when she's with a group of friends; or trying to speak to her when she's This one's funny and aggravating and true all at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:13 AM
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I mean who cares if redpill invented a term or not. all it really claims to be is observations of what does and doesn't work with women, as well as who women tend to gravitate to and why. think of say a cook book having a ton of different recipes in one collection but not inventing any of them. also 80/20 comes from online dating statistics mainly okcupid and other forms which have complied data it isn't a number that was pulled out of no where for shits and giggles. buuttt I'm guessing that pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:02 AM
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like everything some people will not want something and some people will bullshit about not wanting something, I'm completely for anyone whose willing to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:52 AM
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it has to do with scarcity, the guy who only maybe has one or two women look there way in his life if even that will value relationships alot more then the guy who can snap his fingers and basically have another women other at his place in 20 mins. which leads as back to both genders dating problems, average men have little to no options who actually find them attractive, and women are fighting over the top % of players. there will be some exceptions ofc but this is the general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:27 AM
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the Idea that trump getting voted is solely due to men due to how women on the internet treat them. for many more reasons other then being mad a women for being incels. is a false premise in and of itself Why do women have a better ability to handle hardships caused by the other gender? they don’t they just get more validation, backing, and care for said issues then the men who are told tuff luck bozo. while I don’t think it’s ideal the idea that men of future generations will tear down society …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:15 AM
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Simple, it’s cause we see many guys like this end up as incels, while guys who are tall, have more attractive faces and or are higher up on the social ladder, do great with women regardless of there morals. this is why they can never explain why the nice feminist blue pilled liberal dude is an incel yet guys trump and musk never are. Basically if you have the looks (face height) and status (and no debilitating mental issues) but next to no blue pill morals you’ll do great with women, meanwhile i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:39 AM
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“basically disagreeing with TRP”. I mean that sound like it could be anything and everything. for a bit of a funny example what if andrew Tate said trump is a terrible garbage president, feminism is great for all, and there are definitely no corrupt wealth ppl then what. but your definition, blue pill now needs to disagree. i also wouldn’t a 100% true wiki pages on things some ppl edit things with not the best intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:43 AM
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there's actually more left wing incels then right wing ones FYI. speaking of Trump he also isn't an incel if what you claim is true how'd this happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:09 AM
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On today’s episode of “life isn’t as black and white as dudes on here like to think”- This is my response to the ppl claiming that only misogynists who don't shower are incels and what not, it's clearly not the truth. If anything black, and white think is more prominent in those spaces. Good man = not incel bad man = incel Rules number 1&2: Be attractive - look good Don’t be unattractive - don’t be an incel douche blaming being a Nice GuyTM for your dating woes. What part of my statement above l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:02 AM
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funny that this gets down voted when it's simply adjectively correct. unless now women suddenly have all the choices in dating and men cant end relationships whatsoever. but I guess if blue pillers give up this they have to admit that betabuxx is indeed a very real thing, which is also bad for women of settling age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:33 AM
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that ideal only works if we also assume that it was only ever women who decided to initiate break ups. if not then it's not a matter of you deciding the second guy is a better option, but just whose left. women are not leaving chads in droves, it's the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:24 AM
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and what if you didnt? who says the women in question HAS to be the one who choose to leave, they may have not wanted the relationship to end.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:21 AM
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well technically no, but yes for the way that blue pilled women usually use it. if personality meant the guy can't come off autistic, or extremely socially incompetent to the point that they can barely even hold conversations that yes personality can make even attractive men struggle. when they say it in the usually he's a nice guy who respects boundaries and probably holds some feminist values they yes that part is at the very bottom the list and will most likely be ignored if the man has more …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:57 AM
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ya I agree with this one men's standards are for sure more laxed then women but there's no world where fat, ugly single moms are just plainly excepted by men wholeheartedly, but by women mostly yes actually but not by men for sure not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:50 AM
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as a guy on here said before where are all the guys tall rich incels struggling with women if personality really is the end all be all blue pillers make it out to be. why is Trump not an incel but the blue pilled feminist who would never vote for him is? why are there dating experiments where a misogynist tall guy with a bit of extra cash and criminal record is basically drowning in options, but none where and average guy (let alone very short and ugly and broke to really drive the point) whose …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:45 AM
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Women just don't even notice short ugly guys, they don't make us angry Not the gotcha you think this is now just add it to the other studies where men are much much more favorable to women when it comes to looks in general and what your left with is redpills 80/20 and the invisible men theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:48 AM
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I actually think this is the fair take no one loves unconditionally
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:46 AM
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the Chad in question will get to most of them If given enough time. Again
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:24 AM
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Extremely redpilling, btw Women are interested in men that are interesting,but as humans we developed feelings that are more than our instincts. And what makes a men interesting is what you left out it’s looks and status. If you actually look at the dead bedrooms, you’ll see it’s roughly 50/50, with the top post about a women telling his husband she doesn’t want sex with him because he makes her do all the childcare and domestic work whist she’s working with him while that’s a fair complaint in …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:19 PM
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There is some truth to this, however I do believe we at least as of now haven’t reached the point where everyone has to be black pilled. however yes it’s very true that the 6’4 slightly obese men when a good jawline, mogs the 5’4 bald recessed chined gym rat, when it comes to dating. outside of debatably having multiple millions in the bank, it is debatable how much certain men can improve which black pill is sadly very correct about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:09 PM
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And hot guys still get laid almost regardless of what comes out of there mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:47 PM
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The answer to that is that the Chad in question will get to most of them If given enough time. So basically he fucks both to put it simply.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:57 PM
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He can, he just takes much more time and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:55 PM
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blue pillers and women just don't understand what betabux usually means there rarely rich as rich men have options and will probably just date younger women. it's just whose willing to take her up and help pay bills for her and more often then not chads kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:35 AM
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If a guy has to sleep with a 6/10 woman, he's not a Chad by definition. In the age of instagram and dating apps, there's literally never a night when a top 5% woman isn't available with little to no effort. Who Said he HAS to he's mostly just doing it cause she's easy and he wants a quick fuck. Especially since the Stacie aren't as easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:06 AM
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because the 6 is easier to to pump in dump to put it bluntly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:03 AM
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Fairness in what? Equal opportunity in getting pussy? You mean a sense of entitlement? The very thing guys here claim is a feminist buzzword, I mean fair do your gonna be real shocked once you find the group of people who are likely to agree with this and even push this message in mass. And I'll give you a hint it isn't blue pill. Right, because guys here dont want relationships. They don't wanna be betabuxes in sexless relationships more accurately. Most of them wont ask for a hookup, so it's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:15 AM
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they don't want the "losers" having sex at all that's the part not said out loud
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:06 AM
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There's this company out there trying to encourage men to approach women again. That's how bad it's gotten. where aware. The reason now is the the risk outweights the reward since metoo beame a thing. InB4 "wHy dONt wOmEN apProAch tHen!?" Men don't typically care about a woman being Blue pillers love to claim that gender roles are the thing of the past so what happened. Unless we can address why men have stopped in the first place the situation will never improve the problem is that will require…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:51 AM
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So a man can get multiple women pregnant. How does that help a woman who he got pregnant in any way? she now has the best genes she can get from a man that's part of biology. Its also why shes more picky in the first place. A society for men whose sexuality is catered to. Just proving my point further Ironically this is actually proving MY POINT FURTHER. We're in a society were CHAD/ WEALTHY men are having there sexuality being catered too. Again redpills invisible man theory and the apex fallac…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:27 AM
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How’s that possible when about half of gen Z dudes have giving up, and haven’t even asked out a women. did you happen to pull your stats for the 1950s by any chance cause those number aren’t adding up. Male loneliness stats also pretty blatant say that around 60 percent of gen Z dudes are actually single and sexless so where your getting those stats of most losing there virginity at 17 is either completely horseshit, or was outdated several decades agos.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:15 PM
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this is sadly why redpill was right about the apex fallacy and the invisible men theory, if you aren’t one of those chads or the wealth whose able to be a fuckboy you might as well not exist in women’s minds as they only see the small minority of men who can.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:01 PM
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Oh no it’s an excellent double standard to benefit from beyond what you’re even focusing on here. Agreed but when most men never will benefit from it then it becomes relevant. a lot of this is also on women remember that basically the male equivalent of a hoe isnt a fuckboy (cause women chase those guys) it’s actually an incel. Basically due to how biology works men who get multiple women are viewed as more attractive due to needing to score very high in the looks or wealth department. women unl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:58 PM
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This is classic apex fallacy, the men you see as real men (tall, hot, high status, etc) never have issues getting sex obviously. The ones you don’t aka the invisibles (so most) have never had it harder in terms of finding women willing to hook up, and are actually getting much less sex then precious generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:34 PM
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I mean I agree but we have several examples where men like this are excelling with women. While guys who exhibit more Blue pilled values end up as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:39 AM
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There are indeed, free to want that but they aren’t free to force others to change there standards for them. Just like she isn’t obligated to like the too short, bald or broke guy. But when men have standards suddenly it’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:35 AM
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Right, because they see sex as soon as possible as the better deal, but for some reason, they just don’t want to admit that they want women who dont vet. I do wonder if it’s a fragile ego thing knowing that she’ll practically be fucking any guy and it doesnt make them feel special. almost they wish that things were simply more fair and they also are starting to feel like what they are giving isn’t worth what they getting out of it, selective vetting is usually a bigger deal then then vetting all…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:57 AM
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Well ya see that doesnt fit the feminist we are oppressed agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:12 AM
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which they do and that why men end up redpilled if not black pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:54 AM
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Notice how they always use CEOs, politicians, etc. and not plumbers, garbagemen, or roofers as the comparison? They don't want to be like men, they want to be like the elite. most of the the complains from feminist about men privilege is just more apex fallacy nonsense. That's why they Conveniently leave out that most homeless people are men most minimum wage works are men etc. The guys who aren't winning basically dont exist which actually does tie back to redpills invincible men theory, where …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:55 AM
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There is no warfare: but class warfare. Human rights are the focus a rising tide raises all ships. please please tell this to the people who actually need to hear it the feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:51 AM
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That's legit what the dude above is implying also the message has been drilled into men for the past decade or too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:37 AM
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when blue pillers feel just slightly more honest this is generally the sentiment they send to men, it's that no bodies owed a relationship. and I actually agree however if you bring the same energy back to women which is only fair suddenly your the bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:35 AM
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You guys don’t want to acknowledge women who never had sex with scumbags because then you’d have to admit you don’t want to be vetted at all. they just don’t want the worst deal if your being treated vastly worse then the last guy its a fair concern to have. You still have to anwser why they have to except that they’re going be the ugly vetted guy while chad just needed to show up and hit. If she vetted everyone it’s fair if it’s just you then she doesn't like you all that much. And you guys pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:24 PM
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Plenty of women know this (thats why sex is slow for the beta) however they don’t excise it due to Chad having options and generally wanting them less then vise versa. If they don’t give Chad sex immediately he simply gets up and picks another eager women who will, thus they have to gave up more. The person who wants the relationship the least and often has the most options care for it the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:52 AM
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it can be both as women are usually perceived under the women are wonderful effect and are thus much less likely to be seen as threats. which makes socializing a bit easier for them as well. pretty privilege also exists, attractive people get treated better, and are allowed to make more mistakes, thus they tend to enjoy socializing over someone less attractive whose interactions aren't as positive. I mean we have tons of experiments were say for example, a rat presses a button and gets rewarded …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:06 AM
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this is my life as well, was the fat pimply kid in college that then become attractive (and also less liberal btw) and suddenly women started treating me alot better. but blue pill says its all in my head, that pretty privilege is a made up term and only misogynist, who never heard of the concept of showers can be incels, and other just world nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:53 AM
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seeing this coming from a women s slowly getting restoring my faith in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:49 AM
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while this is somewhat true men groups or atleast majority men groups are generally more up to criticism them women groups or majority women group generally that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:44 AM
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my point is that the words copied and pasted by exchanging men swapping the instances where you use men in your sentence for women and vise versa would get you called an insecure misogynist. I have no problems with your personally dating standards I just wanted to point out the hypocrisy as a men would be crucified for saying the same thing but gender reversed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:21 AM
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women ARENT single moms who impulsively fucked scum also vet. Correct, they don't suddenly want to be the vetted guy when others weren't it's the lack of consistency and knowing they're getting the worse deal that bothers them. Great now we’re doing No True Scotmans fallacy. red/purple and black pillers are the ones who will correctly point out that shit ain't fair Thats a lie, especially in this sub. They insult women for any reason, even when contradicting. That's extremely irrelevant to the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:12 AM
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But as soon as relationship minded women realize they should make sure the guy they’re dating is not a piece of shit before having sex with him, suddenly women are the bad guys Why should said good men wait around for when women have “learned“ just to end up in a shitty relationship as a stepdad whose not even liked by his wife. Which is why they rely on relationships. Problem is women vet harder when it comes to relationships. i mean fair by again this is red pills BB/AF reworded slightly which…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:13 AM
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People aren't stuck in their hometown with their only option the 50 men from high school. this is the exact reason why it's harder especially for men. Why date Joe when there's a dude on the app whose taller wealthier and better looking. With so many more options less and less women want guys like Joe and he gets left out. especially when the lack of options and pressure to marry and stabilize are the only reason guys like Joe where ever picked in the first place to begin with, now there better …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:23 AM
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but average to below average men aren't getting fucked as strangers in any statistical significance numbers. it's the women here who say that men who don't bring high tier looks need to bring something else?? so basically the guys who are complaining where never going to get fucked as strangers in the first place. the complains are more so about how unfair the game is and how little effort (if any) a higher caliber of men has to put in, in order to get to sexy time. I guess guys here are pretend…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:04 AM
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unless that guy was already married to the women in question or the women in question is exceptionally hot herself, Chad in his 30s will much more often then not choose the woman (or often times the women as in multiple) ya libidoes do decrease with age, but we know the real and most important reasons are: A) Chad gets married taking him off the market for the many girls who where just fuck with buddies B) starts dating younger, also accomplishing the same thing​. this usually forces said women …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:37 AM
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well, I don't know you and your personal experiences so I can't gauge nor will I tell you said lived experiences are 100% false, that you havent showered ever or other nonsense (that's the blue pills job). I will say best of luck on your journey to find love and if it doesn't work out then maybe try to focus on other factors you can enjoy in live. ironically this kind of black pill advice btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:16 AM
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Ironically feeding blackpilled taking point yet again. and he’s right about the age thing which you avoided. If your from an older generation your dating experience is vastly differen then it is now this ain’t the 80s or 90s anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:24 AM
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The hot guys ain’t coming back that’s why they settle in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:15 AM
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Betabuxes are usually not rich as rich men have options. betabux is usually refers to the guy whose the last resort, since to the women in question he’s the one guy left after the hotter or richer men either get married or start dating younger. hes the one whose last be is willing to be nice to you as well as usually look after their above men’s kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:12 AM
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Yeah, I get it. Just wanted to also bring up that like gets with like. There are boring, unwanted women for a dude who never had a relationship… not necessarily there’s actually more single and lonely men then women based off the stats we currently have. so there isn’t enough unwanted women for every unwanted men. boring dork unwanted awkward mid girl who is actually his match. most women like this are complaining about to much male attention with the caveat that they aren’t really really ugly, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:07 AM
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To be fair I do believe such women exist but also : Seen fair more femcels who are strictly Chad only and seen more or incels willing to take any breathing women. the stats we have show that men actually rank women free more generously then vice versa. so ya it still is most women who are doing this male 2s will take female 2s but female 2s are waiting out for someone richer and taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:01 AM
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I mean according to the blue pillars here especially the blue omen your now and Insecure misandrist. (a men saying the same words is an insecure misogynist)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:56 AM
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Apex fallacy, it is oriented towards men just the very small minority of the riches and best looking ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:50 AM
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Its only controversial in blue pilled circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:36 AM
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No one claims it was for sure a calculated maneuver however that doesn’t change the fact the she’s less enthusiastic about the settle for guy they she was with Chad. men have figured out that yes it wasn’t under some cynical plan she’s been cooking for years, but more so she’s sees the new relationship as an unfortunate event that she now has to adapt herself to. Men just dont want to be viewed as said unfortunately event.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:10 AM
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A lot of the time it’s also that she aged out of the hottest men casual sex lineup as those high value men either get married (and usually with with much younger women) or just start hooking up with different women also usually younger. Then after she’s gets scared of being alone, due to usually financial, societal, or just being lonely reasons, she feel pressured to quickly get the with the settle with guy aka betabuxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:45 AM
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Well that’s sadly redpilling. Thank you for the honestly though, I do think many men from experience will argue on how common women who think like this are however.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:32 AM
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So women actually do care about money and now your suddenly, agreeing with me is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:28 AM
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Feminist online spaces will take critique when it's useful. Id love to hear so explains of this, cause what we usually get is fully agree with us or else, even plenty of women here have complaints about how performative you need to act in womens spaces since they hate any sort of critique in general. So the short answer is what your claiming is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:24 AM
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But feminist subs aren’t about debating redpill grievances case in point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:02 AM
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The reason it bothers me more when leftists do it, is because i have a bias that leftists are reasonable people. And if that bias gets violated i don’t like that. As an ex leftist myself I’ve come to realize it’s basically all performative, that just pretends to be more equal and less bias then they actually are once you peel off the layer you’ll just see double standards and hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:59 AM
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So how does immediately removing anything you disagree with achieve this I’m wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:54 AM
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Ding ding ding, people like yourself and I have figured what the hidden meanings behind there words.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:53 AM
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Bring us stats that say male loneliness is over then and everyone especially thistle under 30 ppl are easily getting dates then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:23 PM
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Tryna force some sort of just world. Even if being redpilled in and of itself really was the reason most of those guys were single and sexless, they already were before they even knew what it was. There is some correlation, but what the guy above is saying is like me claiming that a suicidal Hotwire is the sole cause of people’s depression because it’s usually depressed people who make the calls there, cart before horse yet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:13 PM
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Some do. Some don't. There's no hard rules. It's different for every woman. most of them do is the thing. There's not enough men to fulfill the needs of production. your probably correct however this is extremely irrelevant to how attractive a particular man maybe. You either need to bring high looks or high status and these days sometimes both. It's definitely men. As evident by your response. my response is basically just pointing out the obvious like green being green. It would be like me cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:09 PM
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are women holding off to better test though would love to see more if this I it were actually true. most of the highest value men around, will probably try for a bit and then more on to easier targets if the women is taking to long to give him what he wants. women then get scared cause men like him are rare and Chad then proceeds to get what he wants. maybe not every breathing women will be like that ofc but enough that chads are basically never lacking for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:02 PM
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it's easier for most women and basically all chads is the part that always gets left out. not easy average and Belo guys and very very ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:50 PM
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which means the standards are even higher as now they value men who make less as losers, while taking jobs off the market that those guys potentially could have fill if said position wasn't filled by a women. and no it's not men who have a problem with this usually it is by and large a vast majority of the time the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:42 PM
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thats part of the question, men end up insecure because society and especially the women themselves view men underperforming them as losers, which ties back to the core of hypergamy women like men who are financially above them and other stuff. never once said this makes women evil that’s something you came up with yourself it is however just how reality is which is not very kind or fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:59 AM
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Less people are getting into relationships now then before and common complaints from women are often that men are financial losers now that said women are making more then them (also known as hypergamy btw) personally deluding yourself that women don’t by in large think like this is basically the grass is purple analogy I gave above. Making up believed reality, women liking men who make noticably less then them and view said men as equals is cope. At least in any sort of noticeable numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:48 AM
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Just dont be insecure doesn’t solve there problems when they insecure in the first place seen society and ESPECIALLY WOMEN THEMSELVES view man as lesser because of it. what you personal believe and say to yourself WILL NOT CHANGE HOW SOCIETY OPERATES, and what people as a whole usually see as good or bad. WOMEN WILL VIEW YOU AS LESSER BECAUSE OF THIS REGRADLESS OF WHAT THE MEN IN QUESTION TELLS HIMSELF TO COPE WITH.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:36 AM
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What about Jesus is relevant to my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:29 AM
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Cart before horse, men can have different beliefs but when what they believe continuously mismatches with reality they eventually realize that they can no longer play pretend. Your trying to argue that what you believe is true automatically changes what is true. while I’m stating the truth is simply a constant that is unchanging, regradless of what you personality believe. telling yourself that grass is purple doesn’t actually change all reality thus making youself feel better it, that is in fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:25 AM
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women say that but it’s mostly they wish that for the men they actually like, not just any man. So once again even with this, I don’t think its fair to say it’s easy. This is just the​ blue pilled summed up funnily enough, it's not about values that women wish YOU displayed its about values that women wish wealthy CHAD DISPLAYED TOWARDS HER (or sometimes that attractive bad boy) they just don't say the quite part out loud
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:17 AM
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before I can properly ingauge in your question I have to ask? dating is easier for WHO since that greatly changes the anwser. Basically is super easy for Chad's, harder for average men easy for little below average women and up, atleast initially but much much harder if they want commitment from Chad, or easier if they want to settle etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:14 AM
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So money now matters and not being the nice guys who showers being the only thing you need for a relationship this is now considered blue pilled advice these day huh. Again where moving the goal post from redpill is full of shit to redpilled talking point have always been correct but they were obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:42 AM
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I mean I'm pretty sure it is or is near the top in things like red pill which is what entice many men to move over, and it's true but sadly usually gets covered up to make women look less swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:40 AM
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I mean her reply below hers basically tells you everything ya need to know. it indeed is time to give up. feminist isn't about equality anymore and you could even debate anymore part for at any point if I'm being honest. they simply don't have have never cared for those kinds of issues yet they'll claim there some all encompassing egalitarian movement, whenever they want to shut to down men's movements. they are simply lying, to hold there agenda, which is the patriarchy is our society which mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:34 AM
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the real question here is can women, I've seen with my own eyes/ heard more then a few stories of women being the ones who have a problem with this dynamic. once she views herself as better then the man it's her who has a problem with it as he suddenly becomes an unattractive loser, or it the dynamic started out as such she slowly becomes resentful of him not living up to the "real man" expections
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:14 AM
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acknowledging that something exists and then acknowledging that it isn't fair and is thus leavaged against you inorder to make things harder for you to achieve e what you want arent contradicting point of views whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:09 AM
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cannot believe believe I'm agreeing with the wokie on something. but ya there really is no such thing as unconditional loves, what you mean is that those men want to feel physically sexy to a women which in of itself is a condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:54 AM
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blue pill is obsessed with pushing a male exclusive just world agenda, which simply doesn't not exist but makes women look morally better then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:51 AM
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gender abolitionists and queer and non-binary people on the progressive side and this is the key component of your argument, you won’t however find this amongst straight women, which is who these guys wish to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:21 PM
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Blue pill can never answer this, honestly so expect your response to be ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:16 PM
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What are you trying prove it’s well known that men have more variety in there types then women do that’s all this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:40 PM
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Yes and being ugly nice guy or (sometimes even just average looking) doesn’t get you laid yet being a misogynistic Chad does that’s the entire argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:37 PM
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He never claimed that, it’s just that provided a men is hot and/or high enough in status suddenly blue pilled values start to matter very little. On the other hand nice blue pilled men who are ugly (or something just plain and average) struggle to get girlfriends IF they can at all. No one has any rights in terms of being owed a relationship at all but what men keep observing contradicts the blue pill, which they continue to point out is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:36 PM
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Red pill realizes that you can’t negotiate attraction and snice men who don’t confirm to gender roles are by and large repulsive they might as well force everyone to there gender role after all if a men is expected to give abc to be a real men or whatever he may as well expect abc in return. Its pretty clear that one of the few thing both progressives and conservatives actually do vigourously agree upon is that men who can’t complete there side of gender roles are worthless. It just that progres…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:13 PM
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where do blue pillers get this nonsensical idea that only misogynists who’ve never even heard of the concept of a shower are incels? The reality is that most of those guys are either to ugly low on social status, or just plane unlucky. Blue pill still has no answer to the question of why are there leftists feminists incels at all if only criteria that women ever judge a men on are to be nice and clean. how the fuck was there ever a male loneliness epidemic ever a thing if the average guy was in …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:06 PM
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Because women lie and usually by omission what they really do is give advice the few already physically and/or economically attractive guys out there, on how they wished they behaved regrading her. But since alot of these guys have options themselves they don’t care or have to follow those rules so women get upset over how the minority of top guys dont have to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:34 PM
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i mean ofc not all women vote not all men vote as well so what point are your trying to even make. Especially when just rare percentages alone don’t tell the full picture, cause as I mentioned there’s more women or voting age then men in the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:11 PM
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it is to fight for gender equality in a way that makes women equal to men, what's so hard to understand? So what exactly is you definition of equal then this is starting to sound like sure everyone equal but some are MORE equal then others type of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:21 PM
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many have tried infact it just really passes of feminism and the mainstream left leaning agenda unfortunately. also its these very same ppl who do infact claim that feminism is the all encompassing gender equality movement till that have to make good on there words then it's we don't owe you jackshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:20 PM
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this shit again. Men have tried but that get attacked and forced to close down or rewrite all there arugements to fit more of a feminist view. after while the very same people claim a men's movement isn't needed due to feminism actually being an all encompassing rights movement for everyone. then it's back to square one of we wouldn't help create your own movement rinse and repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:17 PM
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there are more women of voting age alive in the country however so raw percentages don't tell the full story.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:14 PM
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As i mentioned a while ago this is Schrödinger's women's monolith. Women aren't all after so and so attribute because, women dont do or thing the same, to the reason your an incel is because you do have/do whatever attribute fits the now changed message to women actually do all thing the same and we lied. Example blue pill will claim that no women's ever judged you negatively on you height or jawline, or even if they do rarely admit it they will claim that those kinds of women are extreme outlin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:11 PM
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divorce stats are significantly easier to prove then what your provided is the thing, if Your idea then is just to discard it then we honestly could say the same for say male violence on women as is hard to tell just how much of it reciprocal. Guessing you wouldn’t be will to look at a scenario like this since it goes against your women are wonderful beliefs though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:27 AM
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So your claim is simply being blue pilled increases your chances?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:14 AM
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ya I I’ll like you to reread what I wrote then come back here and tell me what exactly we’re disagreeing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:24 PM
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i just said social media had a much larger effect and made things bad, long before blue pillers started the "but trump" arugements the classic Cart before the horse kind of arugement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:57 AM
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they were more single and lonely for YEARS before they become more conservative btw if that's the gotcha you believe your making. men moving right is a much more recent development, that came AFTER they were lonlier, which stats showed were happening in the events of dating apps and social media becoming more popular, like a decade plus before now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:58 PM
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Ya actually I thing this is just the correct take
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:36 AM
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It’s entirely possible to be a feminist while also bringing awareness to male-specific issues and problems but rarely do you see anyone manage to successfully thread the needle. it this day and age many would consider them antithesis of each other
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:21 AM
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Everyone has trouble getting dates. Dating is a challenge for everyone. no not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:48 AM
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I mean the anology kind of doesn't work reversed due to how passive the majority of women are. but I do agree that women should understand women's situations better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:46 AM
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man are actually more open to less traditional roles in women, more respectful of women's feels and more open to women's thoughts and opinions as a whole, compare this to say like 200 years old no feminism and all that yet somehow they have never been more lonely and sexless, the fact that there more likely to be incels today then back then does kind of speak volumes, to blue pill not working. Basically there are little to correlations on being blue pilled and doing better with women as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:40 AM
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this is known blue pillers keep tryna deny it but there's more feminist leftist incels they there are Trump supports who are. being a feminist or kind or whatever has never made men go from incel to having women swoon over them. that's why attractive and wealthy misogynistic guys continue to have higher body body counts that anyone else. while uglies do keep struggling no matter how blue pilled they behave. which is kind of the core of blackpilled thinking btw, which will just sadly get them eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:31 AM
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we have stats saying there are more leftist incels then right wingers. it's just on the left complaining about anything that isn't 100% female positive is a no no. so they keep it to themselves non-leftist incels are just the ones allowed to be vocal about there issues while leftist incels are ostracized, and silenced thats why you'd probably only really ever see them on anonymous sites like reddit sometimes not even there, due to the fear of ostracization.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:59 PM
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I bet I would be banned immediately, if I copied this post and changed about 7 words, but anyways while I don’t bring this up often you really need to take that blue pilled advice and get some therapy then get offline. Also you cannot really blame, victims for what a few crazy guys are doing i wonder how much things like removing repeat offenders would bring these women’s down. this amount of bullshit in one long conceded statement is genuinely impressive I think the mods should interject and ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:02 AM
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For anyone on the fence THIS THIS leftist mentality right here is why we sadly have trump, in office with this much hate and misandry going around is it really a surprise that so many younger men just said fuck this fuck the left trump is the better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:35 AM
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suprised this is coming from a leftist even though it is indeed extremely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:19 AM
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schrodinger's women's hivemind is just bluepill 101. Of course women aren't all attracted to the exact same things too then, of course no women would want to date you because you don't apply whatever bluepilled talking point (like just not being a misogynist), being the only possible reason for anyone being an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:34 AM
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respect that this truth is coming from a women. better being told the truth and then seeing what could be done from there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:12 AM
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we desperately need more ppl like you in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:10 AM
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it's like all the women saying you can't shame someone into not having whatever standard they choose. the same for men then, they all get the standards they choose. also the male equivalent of sult shaming is virigin shaming also known as the incel to make it clear. this is just hoth genders wanting different things
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:32 AM
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So ya went from it doesn’t happen bro, to I guess you were right but then it’s your problem, so don’t talk about it. also I think you and raven ironically may need to switch flares.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:54 PM
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So have women just been bums for centuries then according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:51 PM
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By good men I meant just men who meet women's relationship desirability standards, so yes absolutely incredibly limited supply according to women. I mean I fail to see yet again how this is different then redpills 80/20, just gonna point out that A lot of the “where are the good men”, talks are truly what leads men to redpill and not the perceived blue pilled thinking of Tate saying random bullshit that no ones ever experienced, and men just follow for no reasons whatsoever. basically this is ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:52 AM
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Stop expecting special treatment solely because you exist. That is not the reality for the vast majority of people, and you’re always setting yourself up for disappointment if you think that that’s even attainable for you 99% of the time. Lilith I think you’ve be very very surprised, when you discover the group of people in here who actually agree with your statements here. cause it ain’t who ya think I'm tired of people acting like love is dead because they can't find someone to accept them bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:37 AM
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I’m actually not fully sold on the women happier single as a whole talking point however certain individuals will of course be. but ya I actually fully in agreement with the rest of your points. single men being not very open to being approached though whatsoever is rare, though but that statement actually really doesn’t take anything away from your talking points so I’ll just agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:43 AM
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No the guys right if your a shy girl who isn’t on the extreme ends of ugly you will probably still be able to have a few boys approach you from time to time. If your not a chad as a men and are too shy however, you’ll more then likely will never date. So maybe the type of guy the OPs mentioning might actually be approached a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:05 AM
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It's cause the nice blue pilled Men are incels and the nice Chad with options grabs the stacy and leaves the dating market quickly. So with that being said it makes sense that most women are now running into the hot players. How is it that so many women have a he cheated on my story or he was an asshole during a male loneliness epidemic or why do women feel the need to have things like the tea app. Womens Hypergamy is the reason situation, the few attractive men getting the majority of sex don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:36 PM
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Yours speaking to much sense to be blue pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:34 PM
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I don’t really fully get what your claiming, especially since I do believe personally is a part of it (just not really the being nice and friendly is all you need parts thats pushed by blue pill) My claim is that just that there is no sixth sense, where women avoid bad men which usually is the defence of why do incels exist again the dude name trumpfuckskids brought it up. the it’s not all or nothing claim is true but some factors are indeed more important then others. and it’s not like we dont …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:34 PM
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>That’s same all or nothing thinking that she points out. I agree and I am actually point out that the “all or nothing” claim gets used to swear that women secretly have a sixth sense that makes them very alert to bad men, the common blue pilled, your an incel because women sense you hate them before they talked to you nonsense is what I’m calling out. Women aren’t actually able to just sense misogyny and it’s not the thing that makes incels incels, it’s usually things like looks status or a men…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:54 AM
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>how they are supposed to know that they are good dads or not. I mean fair enough but then you also have to conclude that women aren’t just avoiding the bad men, since they couldn’t know it and then you have to conclude that incels arent incels due to personality but other traits that are much more visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:22 AM
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Dating Is very lopsided and women can typically always date up (unless there 10s, themselves) it usually just depends on how far up they feel that they need to date up that’s bottlenecking them. also the unique challenges your probably referring to is some one fake with some sort of ulterior motive I presume. The issue with this line of thinking is that it only works if he can confirm that most of the women's possible suitors are trash and undatable, (which is ironically the redpills 80/20 claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:11 AM
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Technically it isn’t a direct lie yet it is lying by omission.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:06 AM
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Love to hear what exactly your definition of blue pill is then. Cause women love pretty men definitely falls under redpill and ESPECIALLY is the essential taking point of blackpill. Yet those people get called crazy incels for pointing this out. Guess where moving the goalpost yet again from red/ black pill is full of shit and all lies to, ofc red and black pilled taking points where always correct yet they where so obvious that you didn’t need the pills in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:04 AM
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You forgot the parts where A.) Joe first tried meeting women in real life but was rejected even within said social circles by women as he’s just the friend and ends up being no one’s type. B.) Joe tried meeting women outside and found that due to things like looks or a mental health condition no women wants him in there social circle in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:41 AM
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This doesn’t solve there issues, though and reads as yet another if you were actually a decent human being you’ll have a girl. then they try to be a nice feminist and more socially or whatever yet still end up single only to get told yet again, how shitty of an individual they most be. Again with the male exclusive just world which seems to be very popular in blue pilled spaces. Once they discover this they then try red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:16 AM
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your correct however the problem is that your statement does not blatant say that men are evil demons and women are blameless angels. Dont ya know men start off good and then for no reason whatsoever decide to listen to a guy like Andrew Tate explain a lived experience that no one’s ever lived, which leads them to the wrong conclusions, where only then can women immediately sense the misogyny, leaving said men single and lonely. It could never be that men tried other things they did work and are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:09 AM
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Women: Dating for men is like looking for water in a dessert (they try but no ones willing) and dating for women is like looking for clean water in a swamp (most men aren’t dateable and are too ugly for us) Also women why would men listen to redpill nonsense like the 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:16 AM
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Well if that was true, i do think that men would just take the get a prostitute route thats been brought up a few times, and let's not forget and let's not forget that many of these guys that do get married are also getting beatbuxxed and deadbedroomed. If if your claims were true then no attractive guy would simply ever get married as arm candy and sex are as free to him as candy is to a 5 year on halloween. I do however have to agree with you points on pretty privilege attractive people really…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:26 PM
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were in an era of women who are very pronounced men hating misadandists and me-too as well. with that said are you that surprised that the stats point to less and less men approaching these days. >Meeting IRL is the more natural inorganic way than online dating. So the bear has nothing to do with it Saying you hate men and that there dangerous is one of the biggest reasons more guys are leaving women together how you can't put two an two together when it's so blatant is surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:12 PM
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Blue pillers incoming to tell you it’s all in your head and the only reason you could ever be disrespected is due to your misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:08 PM
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No such thing as an equitable redistribution system for people. The best is telling them what’s true, that life is in fact not very fair, that for some it’s possible for them to improve enough, to be desirable and that some are probably just screwed and should wait for Ai or pickup a hobby to distract them from there dating woes. however let’s stop lying to ppl by telling them that it’s the good and moral who always win the game, when its actually the physical/finically attractive prospects who …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:37 PM
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Men see time and time that the nice guy really does finish last. the guys who work on there personally ethier remain single or get chad leftovers as some call it which is basically short for single womens who don’t like you and still wish there where with chad but since he won’t comeback they now choose a lesser dude to help pay the bills and be the settled for guy. to put in Disney terms the Quasimoto‘s in life ether die alone or begrudging Get pick as betas while the Gaston’s of life usually e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:26 PM
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They are the beggars when it comes to the LTRs with the men they actually want though which is what they don’t seem to understand. The chads with all the Options have little reason to stay after the sex is done. this is why so many women keep complaining about mens commitment issues, it’s cause the top guys they keep throwing themselves at have little reason to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:59 PM
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I mean I’m all for women being aware of the pump and dump from chads and being aware of how the market works. guess this is supposed to be a gotcha of some sort, of how man believe women treat more attractive individuals better, and I mean yes your correct in being able to demand what sort of treatment you’d like and should probably be better for women in the long run. Just don’t be surprised if the chad in question gets up and leaves you immediately, for a different women or doesn’t wanna take …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:18 AM
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What is there not to get the red pill correctly points out that more attractive individuals will be treated better and will have to up less effort and are allowed to make more mistakes. Redpill is the first to say that if you want better results here are the things you need to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:04 AM
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Another why can’t men just be mind reads it’s so frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:51 AM
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So black pill is the way in your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:37 AM
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>I agree. But that only applies to men that actually payed for dates in the past. It doesn't apply to men that never payed. or ya know have never been on a date before then. meaning they had no opportunity to do things differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:55 AM
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That your blinded by double standards and hypocrisy, which your putting forth. But guess you’re just not understanding the premise of this whole convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:03 AM
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Ok. Men who want virgins aren’t insecure women who demand taller and/or richer men are insecure cause there egos can’t handle another women possibly having better then her But it’s ok. Women are allowed to be weak/broke and insecure. I hope your seeing a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:17 AM
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> But women persisted and now most normal men prefer working wives. And yet women’s preferences in men havent really been challenged by comparison and are still the as the times of old. Ya well ya see this just brings us to the other issue with modern feminism. they claim to be the group that’s all encompassing in terms of gender rights and is actually an equality group intended for everyone, to the point where things like men exclusive groups aren’t even needed. (and thus are often attacked so …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:51 AM
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>Men have narrower social scripts : be a provider… but that is enforced by fellow men who say indulging emotions and wanting to cook/clean is “gay”. Not the fault of women. and this is were I disagree, women definitely go around making claims like real men do a,b,c (which is usually what ever behaviour benefits women). this idea that it’s only ever reinforced by men or by conservatives or whatever is horse shit. even the most liberal and supposedly progressive women have strict standards on whos…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:20 AM
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Being about to show off a higher status male is indeed an ego thing that’s not the only reason ofc, but as explained above by a few ppl men not wanting promiscuous women, also isn’t just an ego thing. The claims were both making have very similar tones at the end of the day, by you’d never agree with it since that would interfere with your women are wonderful views.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:38 AM
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while I don’t agree with the premise, then by the logic you presented women also too are “insecure” and then should also be free to be allowed to be as “insecure” as they please. since preferences equals insecurity allegedly. while I do see alot flaws with this train of thought, as long as your consistent I guess it should be ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:25 AM
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Then he and whoever else is likeminded is free to only want virgins then if that’s there preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:15 AM
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You could spin everything like this and not even just body count, is the thing. Any women who cares about height and build is weak and pathetic, any women who cares about a men’s income is dumb and lazy etc. whatever nonsense to justify why men can’t have standards at all I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:11 AM
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Another heres why men cant have any preferences comment, cause misogyny or whatever. while In the same breath you’ll also hear that these are the 50 things every women deserves from a real man, cause she knows her worth, typical blue pilled double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:08 AM
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Women just have a much easier time finding dates in general so they usually end up removing there profiles from the apps, once they do get a date which statistically will be in a much shorter time frame then men. Meanwhile for so dudes there profiles sit there for months to years cause they get nothing at all or are just matched with a bot or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:14 AM
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this is the main part of redpill I really like and agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:23 AM
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Yes actually something like this would be fair. If you still find that women are making less under these circumstances somehow, then it should be easy to correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:33 PM
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The only problem with this is that it doesn’t state that men usually work more overtime, and don’t take as much time off. (usually due to not giving birth) Also despite this I’m pretty sure gen z women actually do outearn men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:20 PM
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>Men here need to stop vilifying women just because they don't want the hunchback of Notre. Ironic you say that since quasimodo is a textbook example of the good hearted nice guy. which means you admitting and validating the main black pill taking points that some man are indeed just screwed no matter what they do, or how blue pilled they are. >Women don't own men any explanation of their choices, either step up or step out. And this here is the main idea behind the red pill, btw. most would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:12 PM
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so what are you debating, seems like he's just claiming that if no one wants to fuck you couldn't prove your good a sex in the first or potentially learn if you are bad at it. ya ofc you can't prove your good at something you've never even gotten opportunity to do, doesn't seem like there's much to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:56 AM
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i mean that, doesnt rebut anything hes said, for one, (as you could still, see have said relationship as a means to an end to fullfill a number of proposes) and two in this day and age we could make very good arugements that feminists don't see men as people in the first place more like dangerous rapey animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:52 AM
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good vibes = physically attractiveness, signs of confidence and status, no signs of any mental illnesses. way too many women complaining about there exs for it to be things like kindness and good nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:25 AM
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Sounds like he wasted his time, if I’m being honest its quite possible that she gave him a fake number out of maybe fear or disgust, to get him away from her. It’s legit situations like this that make more and more men start to approach less and less. Then ya get the shit about women complaining about there being no real men, anymore because said real men needs to do A,B,C to be taken into consideration. all from the same people that are supposedly against gender roles, and then claim (at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:58 AM
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it's guys that can read women plus are hot.and/or high statused enough to usually get positive feedback in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:00 AM
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because not all those suppoused ques mean the same thing when coming from different women, and is also left intentionally ambiguous so they can claim plausible deniablity. funny that blue pilled women themselves claim not all women are monolith, till it comes to something like this or things like just having a kind personally mattering, and not looks then sudden they are one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:59 AM
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once ya explain it like this it all makes sense. average to women is probably a guy who would pass as I guess a Chad-lite as some call it and also probably has some sort of status. then he can make up for the fact that he's 5'9 probably 5'10 and not 6 foot. an actual average looking men status and wealth withstanding simply isn't getting 1000 matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:49 AM
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pretty sure liberal dude are getting less sex via the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:26 AM
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you probably overestimated the 15% and 5% margins, it would be more like 7.5% and 2.5%. also forgot about money the guys she imagines also probably makes 85k plus on the low end.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:13 AM
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They don’t exist in the blue pilled mind since it doesn’t agree with the male exclusive just world they push.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:40 PM
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>Lack of accountability. It is because they’re assholes. They’re just mad they don’t have the pretty privilege or the income for shallow people to overlook their awful personality. No, actually Thats my point. if more physically and/or financially attractive individuals then you,don't have to play the game by the same rules then the biggest obstacle bottleneck these men is said looks and status and not nice guy hood as I mentioned above, which blue pill swears doesn’t happen since women only see…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:38 PM
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pretty sure this is redpill 101, that's why they tell non chads to get rich and fit for example. it's to make up for the fact they aren't as tall or as handsome as Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:33 AM
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>why don't men advocate for a seperate land free from rapists women? When men can be safe from women? Because women are very happy to have a land away from men. you'll be very surprised to realize this isn't the case. Anyways that people claiming that the other gender is useless (and in certain cases needs to be genocided) isn't the one your blaming. There is no hashing #killallwomen for example while there was one for men. also are you sure that the misandrist women re making there own society …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:07 AM
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>Meanwhile, the “good men” who are overlooked for the hot douchbag fuckboys are also selfish pricks that objectify women. It’s just they can’t successfully pull it off. They just pretend to be morally outraged at pretty privilege to seem superior and push this fake belief of fairness the just world fallacy, also the people who push this narrative are blue pillers mostly, honestly this paragraph up here is really the only one a disagree with. Also I thought those things never mattered in the firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 03:22 AM
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I mean feminist and probably a very large portion of the left hell even the right if I'm being honest barely care about all 4 things you've listed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:20 AM
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I'd aurge that this is actually the things that blue pill tell ya to do
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:11 AM
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>One of the reasons I believe young men are so miserable is because they think their 20s are suppose to be easy. While they are and should be fun—its also the decade you push yourself the hardest, sleep the least, and are suppose to be okay not being comfortable Ya, forgot the parts where ppl come out of college with a truck load of debt and still struggle to find employment. Then your in 30s broke and have little no one relationship experience (and probably the latter) which just makes dating e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 11:36 PM
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the just world is basically the belief that everything is fair and just, and every single outcome in life is completely within your control. Therefore if something bad happens to you it must 100% be because of an action you yourself took and not anything to do with something outside your control. Good things must happen to good people and vice versa for bad thing. Say a men is short and autistic so he struggles with dating, the bp will claim these cannot be a negative factor and will attribute h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:51 PM
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Its interferes with the blue pilled women/ feminist women are wonderful message, and also the male exclusive just world shit they push to try and morally justify the above. Basically a female person must be seen in a positive light no matter what as the women gender can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:20 PM
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Yes this is actually sexism however, its benevolent sexism, which feminism welcomes whole heartedly (if it’s towards women only), And will not chance anytime soon. Of course they down play any benefits the system has towards women in order to fit there narrative, and In order to continue pushing said agenda, they will just ignore any counterpoints either out of ignorance and/or out of spite for men. It’s kind of like being told by a multi millionaire that the economy isn’t actually bad and taxes…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:13 PM
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the halo effect, and the benefits of having status. that's why guys like Trump and Elon have had multiple girlfriends each an the short, weak chinned lib guy who supports feminism is still an incel. also why they say rules are for betas not alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:00 AM
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>Women vote for policies that give men more safety nets. But since YOUR GROUP hates feminism, you vote otherwise. nah, this is hilarious feminism has records of activing acting systems setup to try and help men. "equality" to them is is pushing women up the totem poll at all and any costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:56 AM
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How to end up in prison 101
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:31 AM
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ya see evidence is only ever relevant when it's a a women being accused of something
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:07 AM
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Still sounds better then getting a misread and ending up in prison no thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 01:22 PM
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>Male fetishes are not censored nor scrutinized. The very platform we are having this discussion on allows males to openly fantasize about raping women in gross porn subs like “women are things” that dehumanize women. that doesn’t disprove my points above, I never claimed that every single thing ever was censored just that it happens fair more, then with more women centric media. (See shit like collective shout for example) >And gaming as a hobby doesn’t belong to men either fair enough, but not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:40 AM
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>It’s a rebuttal to this act you males do of pretending you’re so virtuous when in fact your ‘fantasies’ are depraved and nearly always involve violence against women Ya got it backwards it’s the male fetishes that get scrutinized sometimes censored, and very often attacked while the shit that that OP mentioned which is common in women dominated literature, doesn’t really get called out nearly much, in order to push the man bad and women are wonderful effect. no one’s trying to go into womens me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:41 AM
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ya this is a simple relationships need to be reciprocal aurgement, not sure why so many women seemingly dont get that or maybe they where told by feminism thats misogyny or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 09:10 PM
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alot of feminist do love there benevolent sexism. though its funny that in instantances like this they take to the point of infantizing adults and basically claiming that said adult women dating older guys are too stupid to make decisions for themselves which runs contrary to there whole women should be free agenda. also ironically thats "too stupid to make the right decision for themselves mentally" also seeps heavily into the justice system and court rules on women as well. by hey as long as i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 09:04 PM
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It’s easy to say when you probably just sit on the finish line and wait for the winners. Men who didn’t win simply just need to be better your not actually all that concerned with any details on why or how they didn’t win just that they are now losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:41 PM
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>As someone who has known unhinged women all her life, their man hating and wokeness comes from serious trauma why is it so difficult for blue pillars, to even consider that maybe just maybe the reason that a lot of those struggling men also aren’t to fond of women is cause they also had there fair share of issues with the opposite gender. Again with the male exclusive just world nonsense. >No, I hate victim complexes, especially ones where people have never actually been victims. could point to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:37 PM
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nope, incels get mad when the just be a good person bullshit gets thrown at there faces yet again when it hasn’t worked out the first 50 times, they tried. All while simultaneously watching more attractive misogynistic chads seemingly never struggling to get women. Its brought up since it heavily contradicts the blue pilled ideas of the good men, gets the girl saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 01:54 AM
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>“being a good person won’t get you laid and therefore doesn’t matter.” it can be both as in being a good person matters, but it isn’t a factor in getting laid. It’s also most likely brought up whenever a blue piller swears that only reason that incels exist is cause they yell hateful crap at women’s faces on the streets and threaten there safety, when plenty of evil but attractive men still succeed while basically doing the same things BP swears is what keeps guys as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:53 PM
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I think alot of men would be more preceptive to blue pilled messaging if it gave them more tangible results. so many hear about how they just need to be a good person, cause women can never be shallow or something. then they proceed to see the messaging not work out, while getting attacked for there seemingly lacking morals, and also simultaneously seeing the higher status and/or taller and more attractive guys not follow the supposed moral code and still succeed with women. After this experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:44 PM
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it doesn't accure to them cause they operate under a male exclusive just world fallacy. thats why her only anwser even under this is because hes red pilled. it doesn't accure to her WHY men become redpilled in the first place and it's impossible to fathom that he's probably already tried the other advice listed above, to no avail. as the OP says the advice mostly comes down to pull yourself up by you bootstraps, then when men realize this never works they look for an alternative, which also pass…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 09:25 PM
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>Most conventional dating advice is sorta aimed at the upper mid-tier these days id argue it’s for high tier dudes actually, attractive enough that the usual responses from women won’t be to negative at the start, but not quite the chad that can get away with just showing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:30 PM
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There’s a lot of truth that the halo effect is probably the main thing guiding women options on this. Chad behaviour certain ways is cute and endearing while the average or even ugly dude doing the same behaviour is seen as a deal breaker. However ill also give some benefit of the doubt and say that the unattractive guy, might lash out due to previous experiences in his life and negative views of himself. However make no mistake in most situations it’s the first paragraph and not the second that…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:25 AM
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the aurgement is that most women will never marry Chad regardless of what they themselves want. this is like saying that if people actually cared about and wanted money then they'd just choice to all be billionaires. see 99% of ppl arent filthy rich boom you all hate moeny and enjoy being poor. its never gonna happen regradless of what want, just like most women will never marry the wealth chad regradless of what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:14 PM
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That married stats that blue pillars keep mentioning doesn’t disprove anything unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:14 AM
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Nah, men have higher libidos then women in general so they would just act like alot of chads do in the dating market. Lots and lots of sex with a multitude of women, as most guys probably won’t be as picky as women on average. That why the dating scene is what is it today a lot of picky women plus a few attractive non discriminate men (well usually very low standards, not no standards) equals soft harems more or less which is what he see now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:01 AM
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I’m guessing OP meant to say 6ft cause then the numbers make sense. Or he meant that if your 5’8 then 85% of women will weed you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:47 AM
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>Who wants to suck dick with an ugly face staring at them? ya know it’s the blue pill that claims this as long as he’s nice and showers, cause women can’t be shallow or something. The people you’ll find mostly arguing in favour of this aren’t the blue pillers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:00 AM
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I mean porn and smut which has largely female audiences also has its fair share of kinky stuff, the difference is that it’s usually with a chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:55 PM
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Most CEOs are actually over 6ft so ya height does play a big part in how society views you. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/the-necktie-syndrome-why-ceos-tend-to-be-significantly-taller-than-the-average-male/articleshow/10178115.cms?from=mdr
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:52 PM
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5’8 isnt 178cm that actually a little over 5’10
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:49 PM
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I mean most women can’t marry Chad simply cause He Has standards for LTR (but much much lower for easy sex) Supply and demand there are far far more women who believe that there a 6’2 ripped and rich guy willing to commit to them then there are men who actually look like this on market. so for your marriage point most women have to marry the “medium ugly guy” or just don’t get married at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:41 PM
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Agree accept for men it often ends up being in a relationship whole getting zero lust whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:27 PM
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“Trump is rich and powerful and therfore an exception” You do know this is the entire argument against the blue pilled just world right. Trump has status money and height so he gets women regardless of his other behaviours. meanwhile the short bald guys an incel regradless of how much he loves feminism and tries to voice his support about women's reproductive rights etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:53 PM
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your correct, no one really cares about the voices of those preceived as losers found can only ethier improve or be content with your position/treatment in life and maybe preoccupie yourself with other things in life. the blue pilled just world simply doesn't exist. so will simply lose the game through no fault of there own, but at the point you have to ask yourself what can be done next or be content with other joys in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:45 AM
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fair point, as long as you also agree that men as a group shouldn't also be judged by the negatives of a few if they aren't allowed to take the credit for the positives. all men being predators and rapist or more dangerous then bears, etc etc needs to also die.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:36 AM
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but when it comes to mens negatives (usually the feminist) people are very keen to claim it as all mens doings, so if we're already forced for one side why not just take the other side as well then is my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:33 AM
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this is the one area your wrong in. This is basic supply and demand if your a chad with options and one women isnt giving you what ya want you simply claim “next” and watch the next few in line become willing to please you. this is actually a lot of women problems in dating if you ask them, it’s often Chad lack of effort to continue LTRs well after the sex that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 07:50 PM
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Honestly the blackpillars could make some good arguments that what your claiming has been one of there main taking points forever (and they get attacked for mentioning it btw) let alone redpillers as well. But I guess now it’s just the ”right persons” whose claiming such so it’s just different….. somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:45 AM
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Charisma and confidence do matter but only once you’ve reached the looks threshold (or don’t have a debilitating mental issues or something)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:04 PM
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Tbf its often the blue pill that puts that misinformation in mens heads about womens tastes. Attraction cannot be negotiated after all and the door will only open if you pass the looks threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:00 PM
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she probably doesn't get it cause most women typically only see men through the lens of the apex fallacy only the winners are in view
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:07 PM
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then it’s funny that they also both claim that men don’t need men’s rights movements or anything adjacent to it as feminism is an all encompassing equality movement, yet when asked to make good on there words suddenly it’s why aren’t men supporting themselves with there own movement, and thus we get back to step one, and rinse and repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:23 PM
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If a men who watched to much porn claimed for example that he only deserves big titty models, and that most women are now trash cause hes aware of his worth now, would you also conclude that he’s just “gaining standards”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:32 PM
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Agreed I’ve pointed out that porn and smut are effectively the same thing (he’ll I could even argue porn is actually more varied then smut is) does get you a lot of hate in feminist spaces. something something it only effects the mans mental state on how they view women, all while going back to claiming they indeed find most men both physically and financially now unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:20 PM
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my aurgement is that the indecent men who would act the same with social norms in place or not, the men who would approach and respect you are currently the ones that get chased away. he'll many women themselves are complaining about just this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:11 AM
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ppl look down on murder yet serial killers still exist, just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 03:32 AM
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it's only in the blue pilled mind where one can trespass into someone else's house grab pictures of them without there consent and then publicly post them on the internet for everyone to see and still somehow end up the victim after of it. again there is ZERO chance this would every even begin to be tolerated in a gender switched scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 03:23 AM
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the guys who get to pump and dump actually don't have much reason to change because unlike women Chad is getting exactly the kind of relationships he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:10 AM
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they won't being that usually mean giving up access to chads whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:09 AM
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again you're claiming it's ok if I as a man come to a womens house, say (invited as a friend) called as say a repair men or other job, uber drive etc. proceed to see her naked, then its completely in my rights to snap shots of her for later and then post it on the internet, for all to see publicly thus exposing her then id still be in the right correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:48 PM
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"If we’re talking fairness, imagine if a woman were filmed half-naked through an open door while asleep, and the footage went viral. Would people be saying “she should’ve closed her door,” or would they call it an invasion of privacy? You can’t flip that principle depending on gender." Sadly the blue pillers and feminist in here are always like this with there nonsensical double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:39 PM
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weird as hell what that guy was doing. whoever with that said and knowing you from here, I can probably accurately guess that you'd never ever support a gender swapped situation of a guy posting a girls nudes on the internet without her consent. if you cant see how what she did was Wong then idk what to tell you. edited to add this last part: I've even worked uber myself and never have I enter someone's house without there permission, if they don't anwser immediately you take and picture of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:22 PM
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its about 90 objective 10 percent subjective you might have genuine decisions abouut whose more attractive when comparing two tall male celebs but you wont but having that conversation with a one of the men above and the 5'4 guy with down syndrome
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:52 PM
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Fair enough, I believe ppl are better, being told the truth then told things like showering and being a feminist makes you hot, as well as things like how certain ppl how how mostly everyone is shallow to so degree etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:59 PM
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Why do you think blue pillers so often try to lie about the concept of betabux. there whole argument is that it’s all in your head. Despite how many women complain about a lack satisfaction in marriage and how many also initiate divorce. Hell it’s quite easy to find women here even admitting that they used to date for fun and now date for stability and security (which is just af/bb reworded)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:32 PM
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The blue pill and things like feminism are also very very responsible for this messaging
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:16 PM
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Not even just individual behaviour but often the fault of a society for her personal actions, and if its towards and men often HIS fault that she wronged him in someway
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:14 PM
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Again with the apex fallacy it was never men, was more so the rich and powerful, you’ll be surprised how rich well off women behaved in alot of situations, which is something most feminist will never except cause it doesn’t align with the all women oppressed all men oppressors agenda they push.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:08 PM
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While you could easily debate raw numbers and statistics on what it takes to be seen as an attractive person to the opposite sex, and then use that as evidence to prove that women are on average much more shallow then men. I won’t go that far and just point out is how it isn’t usually men who claim that personality is the only trait that matters because where “the good sex” who that only sees one’s heart or whatever other lies and hypocritical nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:19 AM
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>Older women have way more interest than the equivalent man. High n-count women have way more interest than the equivalent man, regardless of his n-count. probably yes to the first one with certain caveats (unless the man has money) and no to the second one since to be a high body count man your either already chad, or well off financially in about 99% percent of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 08:58 PM
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As I said In a different comment awhile ago you can never shame people into finding what they don’t think is attractive to being attractive, many women seem to get this intrinsically until in applies to them is the problem. you cannot both scream that men are trash and that they don’t meet your looks/ financial standards then scratch your head in confusion while demanding that the guys you find attractive shouldnt be allowed there own set of standards (at least for anything long term) due to mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:30 PM
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the kicker is more of those guys end up incels then the actually redpilled guys. since redpill is based off what women find attractive in the first place. that's why we have saying like nice guys finish last.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:36 PM
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The friend zone for women is being put in the fuck zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:51 PM
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Yep, and when you discuss men's issues, that does not preclude men being criticized for causing men's issues, and this topic is a perfect example. the issue is when this is used in order for women to wipe there hands clean and claim that have no involvement in the matter whatsoever. Also do you happen to keep the same energy in a gender switched scenario, or does the break your all WAW illision.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:08 PM
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It’s ok to admit that just like men, women are capable of wrong doings and being shitty individuals. The problem with blue pilled men like yourself is that they’ll desperately look for any and every excuse for bad behaviour in order blame men for women’s actions and also to push the WaW affect. however since feminism is addicted to the oppressor and the oppressed dynamic, they can not be allowed to let “the bad guys” look like there struggling in anyway whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:03 PM
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Funnily enough I’ve seen plenty of women even agree that women themselves look for different kind of guys during different part of there life’s. During there youth it’s fun and hot but later its the stable. blue pilled men have even tried to advise me How much easier dating gets around 30-35ish. And how after ppl have Discovered themselves and let themselves go dating gets easier. Yet they violently attack the concept of Beta buxx, the whole beta bux isn’t real argument from blue pill is a straw…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:09 PM
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The point is that this book and others like it also perpetrate, unrealistic body standards. “The but women have an imagination” augmenting doesn’t counter the fact that all those male characters usually have the same traits mostly: extremely tall, jacked, potentially and probably dangerous too bystanders, probably very wealthy and basically always has a exaggeratedly big dick, which has an effect on women’s psyche. I could have used a different book like say 50 shades, if the but minotaur point …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:31 PM
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Smut is female dominated porn and that filled with riDICulously large dicks (pun intended I’m sorry)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:59 PM
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If Women truly didn’t care then it wouldn’t be shoving into every single smut novel for example. A genre heavily dominated by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:55 PM
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Men fetishizes basically the whole spectrum and women fetishizes, basically just the chad archetype or the wealthy or big dicks but you wont find much outside of these Narrow list of attractive traits. The very very niche exceptions, I can think of who be like a famous hollywood star whose ripped, very wealthly, and facial attractive then you can finally get away with things like being 5’7
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:53 PM
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said this in another comment before, but to reiterate, the problem with the left is that they heavily believe there are no wrong actions but simply just wrong perpetrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:21 PM
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I mean progressives complain all the time about porn bit conveniently decide to say nothing about smut being as popular as it is. men are apparently porn brained which gives said men negative and unrealistic views on the female body. however when books like the like the below become best sellers, and have multiple women praising it I do believe we do need to consider the affects of it being just as bad on as said porn is on men. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:15 PM
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if what you said was true the red pill simply won't exist. luck is a factor in everything and some people are genuinely just more unlucky then others. as true as this is it seems to be denied vigorously by blue pillers in order to push there just world narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:24 AM
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