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DebateMeowbelieveitornot/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:19 PM
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Probably for the same reason men want women to care about them. Because it benefits the whole society. Also because we have natural empathy, but that’s just some of us
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:35 AM
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I can’t speak on your experience, but at least know that there are many women that don’t have a special reason for it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:34 AM
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You make many great points and I’m definitely stealing them… Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:32 AM
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I think body positivity is something that have grown out of people having believed beauty is in the eye of the beholder for a long time now, and I still think that’s why people are told looks don’t matter. I agree with your first paragraph 100%, and even if I’m not as sure of the rest, I can’t say anything since I don’t have much experience with discussing dating with friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:12 AM
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You’ll have to find your own sources to prove this, because I’m tired of doing the job for you. But I can tell you right now that you are the one that have fallen for propaganda and struggle to question it. The only difference between you and me would be that I actually base this on real life where women clearly work in all parts of society. Your reality could only be true if majority of society was collectively in on lying about women’s contributions, and by that I’m talking about linkedin prof…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:20 AM
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I’m asking you what you meant if you hadn’t written wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:55 AM
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Again, peer reviews hinder scientists from lying. Scientists are losing credibility because people like you don’t agree with reality, which is the big irony here. I hoped to be able to show you here that everything you said could be easily proven wrong, but if you don’t listen to science, then what else? I should have told you I was andrew tate so that you could have blindly trusted me then
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:52 AM
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Women make great thinkers. I think it’s pretty clear why you wouldn’t think so since you clearly don’t value others’ well being which women are more likely to advocate for. But simply also because you believe what you wanna believe. Like, tell me why countries with many women in the government are so much better off than majority of the other countries in the world? With your logic, those countries should have tanked long ago with so few ”actual” thinkers taking up the seats in the government. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:39 AM
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I’m not gonna use up too much time on you, because you’re either just trying to provoke or too gone into conspiracy theories. But first of all: you didn’t give examples. Don’t make up that as well. Second of all: it’s so ironic that you go on and on about women being easily manipulated when you, like many other men, have created this world view that is supported by nothing in real life except for other men simply telling you that. Men like you are as gullible as people that believe in dieting te…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:22 AM
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Lol. I am no true dark triad but I sure hope to one day get there. It would make dealing with women way easier. Its hard to be faking being this evil all the time. Makes me wanna laugh. Troll. I don’t think you mean that. But I looked into what studies I could easily find about productivity, which wasn’t much. I found that there was no significant difference in factory work and basically nothing else. At least I know your basing that on nothing except your own gut feeling. And don’t feel discour…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:08 AM
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You said that women are useless, failing at being equal, and should be kept away from breaking things, but you never said why
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:00 AM
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But what did you mean by it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:57 AM
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Everything you say is just a bunch of conspiracy theories. Scientists don’t lie. How could they with peer reviews? There are many scientists that want to find bad results about women but you can’t hide lies with methodology and studies being replicated. And where do you get your information about men performing better? Or the comment about horniness that seems to just be your personal thoughts? I couldn’t find anything online about how men and women perform in those fields, so we’re basing thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:55 AM
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What guys are you talking about? And do the socialist countries china and Russia have female leaders today? Nope. Women were the ones that made themselves work (after the small time period of being house wives. Before that, women have always worked)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:48 AM
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men wanting to use them, sexually, politically and professionally (me included). Spoken like a true narcissist. Unless you’re a troll, but I think those usually have something narcissistic in them as well. You didn’t give a whole lot of examples of women being manipulated (because what is ’everything’? The moon landing?). But you mentioned that women don’t detect manipulating men, even though many do and leave them. Many men say that all women are manipulating them and secretly using them, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:41 AM
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So you are a narcissist. Knew it. And yeah, I actually do think many men are sexist like that and view women as children, but at least studies show women are as good at work as men. Men and their biases, striking again as the more ’logical’ sex, am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:57 PM
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I did. It’s just you claiming things. Where did you get it from?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:49 PM
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Why are women ”fake deception”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:43 PM
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The scientific community (who conduct studies on both social and biological matters) is on feminists’ side. Your truth lies outside of science, got it 👌 Women are finally allowed to work and study, and not only have women spread out across society, but there’s also more world peace. When you say women are useless, are you basing it on anything at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:42 PM
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When have women failed to show themselves to be equal? Women have proven to be equal in almost every except strength. And which countries with socialistic ideals have women in power? Russia and China certainly don’t, and you know that social democracy isn’t socialism, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:36 PM
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What exactly have women been manipulated to believe? What important things do women risk breaking?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:32 PM
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According to this study: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11735252/ men feel less hostility towards women if they have many sexual partners. But at the same time, men who view themselves as highly attractive are more hostile. So since hostile men who deem themselves to be very good looking don’t have as many sexual partners as an attractive man logically should have, the study theorises that men who are hostile towards women are likely narcissists. Oh, with a strong link to extreme right…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:29 PM
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Can you explain why women deserved it? I’ll check the facts for you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:20 PM
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What? No. Most of us women just don’t like that look for no other reason than that we just don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:07 PM
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A couple of years ago, body positivity was a thing and made women tell everyone (themselves too) that looks didn’t matter. Sorry you feel lied to, but the realisation that looks matter is a new thing that has become acceptable to admit to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:04 PM
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Why? Because you’ll get approached and pursued? You don’t think you’d reject those guys, you’ll just settle instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:15 PM
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And what have the elite done that is controlled by women exactly? Except for equal rights? Oh wait! I know countries where the men in power take away women’s rights! Usa is actually one of them 🌝
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:10 PM
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If men were women, they’d wish to turn back into men again. Female friendships are what makes it bearable, because without it, it’s just a life with expectations on you that you don’t want. Like the expectation to do the right thing at all times so that you’re not a bad person, that you have to be super kind to not be a bitch, that every personality that differs from the rigid norm is a statement or attention seeking, that you have to fight against the sexist assumptions people have about you, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:05 PM
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I’m a virgin, so I can confidently say you’re just exposing yourself. Sex are one of the things I care the least for
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:31 PM
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Would it be too complex of me to say that I support equal drafting into the military but would absolutely flee if someone allowed me? To me it sounds like normal human behaviour, but maybe that’s just me. You know many men fight in war because it’s mandatory, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:29 PM
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As anti feministic men like to tell me a lot: men and women are under the same laws today. Except for usa’s weird thing of giving child custody to only one parent, women don’t hold more power than men. And while the laws for us are all the same, there’s still biases in opinion and treatment between men and women. Sure, people say they hate men (although we’ve made it clear many times that we don’t mean it literally), and criminal women can get away with lighter sentences than criminal men. But w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:23 PM
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When people are biased against women and falsely blame them for a lot, it’s only natural that you’ll be called out on it a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:15 PM
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Hello? Why wouldn’t women be wary of men when we still face misogyny? It’s especially common on social media, which makes me think many men have misogynistic thoughts like that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:12 PM
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My only reaction to all this is how absurd it is for men like you to overreact when it comes to feminism. Yeah, I get that it sucks for men to be lumped together in generalised takes, but being mad at movements that were created because of women’s mistreatment is so self centered… 4b told all of you that they refuse to date men until they stop being mistreated, and men like you react with ”okay, how can we battle this EXCEPT for supporting women like they asked us to do?”. I don’t know if men li…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:59 PM
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I see so so SO many men who deny there’s issues with misogyny or even that women have suffered in the past (all I have to do is say the word ’misogyny’ and I will summon them) so I think it’s safe to say there are at least as many men who don’t take accountability. And since men typically aren’t in female online spaces, I can dm you a picture when I see accountability happen next time ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 03:10 AM
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The article you linked to mention that there’s a divide in women about who should pay, meaning there’s many women who do in fact try to break the gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 03:01 AM
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I don’t doubt that they exist, but are they many and not just a few?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:58 AM
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I can agree with that. I think lust and other similar things (like your example of gambling) are nothing wrong as long as it isn’t damaging, and that’s what mental health professionals say as well. As long as you can still form a loving bond, act on your lust as much as you please.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:56 AM
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That happen a lot too but not only with feminism. It happens with anti-feminism too, and when I talk to right-winger as well. There are also people who stop talking because they genuinely listened with an open mind and think the opinion was outrageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:51 AM
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You’re right, you’re right (and I have to say that you have a very nuanced view). I still think most of us on this sub reddit only have a problem with those who blame women, but people in real life situations probably have an ick problem. So many people out there are too comfortable calling people cringe and aren’t interested in accepting things that ”seem weird”, for example adults liking kids shows. Though I have never heard about feminists being against something that has nothing to do with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:42 AM
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You’re misunderstanding me… It’s absolutely true that autistic men have it harder with finding love, but I just tried to say that the original post and everyone else agreeing with it most likely don’t have an issue with autism in men but rather the way they complain about dating on here. That’s why I find this to be a conspiracy theory (in its more casually used definition of someone thinking something is secretly a certain way): what you REALLY hate is men-you'd-like-to-see-removed-from-the-gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:27 AM
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Can you explain these last ones? As for love/lust, theres a reason lust is deemed as the mortal sin. Humans arent everything BP talks about. I’ve always wanted to know why people look down on lust so much. I just assumed it was because we want our crushes to be innocent and not think about other people (or something about how it’s ”selfish” outside of love). And the last line, do you mean humans aren’t the only topic blue(black?) pillers talk about or that those pillers have a false view on huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:09 AM
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Honestly, I thought blue pill meant being a feminist, and that red pill meant being an anti-feminist or at least misogynistic. Have I misunderstood..?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:50 AM
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Really? That haven’t been my experience. Even if I don’t count the blatant misogynistic comments on youtube and twitter many types of content with a woman in it, people seem less sceptic when a man is presenting information or ideas, possibly because people unconsciously think about how there’s more men in economics, engineering etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:42 AM
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No… This is such a conspiracy theory… I think I can very confidently say that it really is the misogyny that is the worst part and that there’s no problem with autistic people unless they are misogynistic. I’m glad most guys aren’t like the guys on this sub reddit, and that’s not because they’re autistic. It’s because many of you blame women for your dating lives, and all the other misogynistic things that is being said here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:29 AM
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Not to be rude, but let me guide you towards the truth. So yes, men were lied to by women collectively Even though this probably isn’t meant in the most literal sense, ”lied to” and ”by women collectively” have this emotional tone all women having come together to do this evil thing. Society tells everyone looks doesn’t matter. I was told that and I’m a woman. And I know all the girls throughout my childhood was told the same thing. I haven’t really entered the dating scene yet, but I can imagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:19 AM
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Right. I haven’t talked to a lot of people in my civil engineering program, but most have had a girlfriend. They all look like regular people too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:38 AM
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Even though I can sympathise with men being less likely to get any compliments on their appearances from family and friends, I do have to mention that as an ugly woman, it’s just something to accept. And I know men have the argument that even ugly women will find someone, but I think that’s true for men as well. We just have to find beauty in personality instead
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:28 AM
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People aren’t lying except for when it comes to how much attractiveness matters. When it comes to giving advice such as being nice, it’s just because those people themselves don’t really know and haven’t researched it. They’re just guessing and saying something on top of their heads. Saying people have lied is probably not literal, but it does give the tone of people being evil
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:22 AM
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It really isn’t as many women dating richer dudes than men think
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:15 AM
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Voting on which person is the most unattractive is so disgusting…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:13 AM
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Women saying they care about looks make them seem shallow after all. It’s the whole of society that tells everyone looks doesn’t matter, not just lying untrustworthy women. I was told that too as a woman, and even if there certainly are a lot of men that make it very clear they only care about looks, there are also those that say they are fine with an okay looking woman, and I don’t know how true that is since humans most commonly do want the most attractive partner there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:12 AM
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As a woman, everything he said was true though… No one lies about what’s attractive because they want to manipulate you. Society does it because it’s nicer to tell kids that looks doesn’t matter and give them hope
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:03 AM
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As a woman, I can confirm that at least for me personally, looks is the most important. Good looking people with good personalities win over people that are only good looking, but someone that only has a good personality is most of the time not enough. This is human, most men and women are like me. But maybe it could be more clearer, I guess? I’m sick myself of people saying looks doesn’t matter, because most people subconsciously know it’s not true anyways, and it can help those that don’t know…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:59 AM
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Is that really the case with most guys? I see so many guys express disgust for overweight and unattractive women online, but also in my school when I grew up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:54 AM
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I gave you an upvote despite that comment on kindness 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:47 AM
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Okay, good, because the first option was definitely better. I don’t know either if women and men biologically are draw to different jobs, but I really hope they don’t, because ”feminine” jobs are seen as more useless, and I don’t want women to be useless
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:39 AM
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Okay, forget that, I change it since court statistics say otherwise. In court and in the case of sex offenders, I think women are scrutinised too little. But I still think that in day to day life unrelated to crime, women are trusted less and people are more likely to assume women are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:36 AM
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I can agree with that. I think patriarchy was mostly created and upheld unconsciously, and even though all men benefit from it, most aren’t doing it on purpose. The people that don’t want to change society is the evil ones however. And yeah, women can use the patriarchy to their advantage (even if they aren’t truly benefitting), but it’s hard to admit this problem when anti-feminism uses it against us
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:14 AM
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I can’t really say that’s my world view… Neither in court or every day life. In arguments I’ve had with people both online (mostly men) and in real life (well, mostly my family…), most people including myself have had a mix of truth in their words and gaslighting, delusion, cognitive dissonance. I could even go as far as to say that men tend to be a bit overconfident in themselves and also more quick to resort to only throw insults… I also think men have a culture of wanting to win arguments, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:05 AM
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I’ll check all that out when I have time, which will not be today, and I will give it an open mind. But still, I will never support anti-feminism no matter what feminist has done, because that’s anti women’s rights and equality. I don’t think it’s only a name of a movement, I think the core values are in the definition. And I still think I have enough experience to safely say feminists are as different from each other as I said they are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:56 AM
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Oh, okay then. I don’t agree with everything you have said in this comment section, but many things seem pretty true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:46 AM
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That… was not what I said. I didn’t mention that at all. And with your last comment, I don’t know if you’re talking about a man opposing feminism or a man helping feminism since you changed my quote. I have definitely seen women mock men that oppose feminism, because I’m also the one doing the mocking
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:44 AM
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My opinions about this are: 1) It’s true that most things has its roots in patriarchy. Direct misogyny, indirect misogyny, expectorations on men, internalised misogyny etc, everything you mentioned. 2) but it’s not helpful to bring it up if a man simply talks about his issues. It does bring awareness, but I think it would be more helpful to just say ”men need more emotional support in their friendships”. It does take away a bit of the focus from the man’s struggles. 3) I think feminists do this …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:24 AM
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Even though I think many people are like this, it still mostly seem like a conspiracy theory. Most people have a strong self interest, but actual organisations and institutions should be trusted at least. I would actually say most people have empathy for others if they’re leftists, so defensiveness against male issues is probably due to feeling blamed, not because women don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:42 AM
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Aren’t those just human traits? I don’t exactly see men taking accountability either
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:37 AM
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I disagree. Women are very heavily scrutinised, in many cases more so than men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:34 AM
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I think you’re very right about a lot of things and I too don’t think patriarchy was created consciously, but we do agree that it wasn’t fair or what was needed back then, right..? With everyone in a group helping and contributing, everyone should have had a say in what was being done
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:32 AM
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Yeah, a lot of things really have patriarchy is it’s starting point, so the people saying it aren’t exactly wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:26 AM
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Even though what you say is true and has happened, I think many of you feminist-sceptics blow it out of proportion compared to how much of an issue it actually is. Well, at least online, because I do think people in real life are more prone to just adopting whatever most people think at the time. I can see how it would be hard to challenge things in passing, but with deeper conversations, I think most people would be able to see it as grey rather than black and white and come to the conclusion t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:24 AM
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I have only two countries I can compare your statement with and in both cases it’s untrue. In USA, there are only two parties, so there’s not many enough to choose the one that support women the most and men the least. In Sweden, no party goes against feminism or male issues, and people tend to vote based on economy vs immigrant issues anyways. Please do share an example where your theory applies
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:14 AM
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If they’re clearly different, you wouldn’t confuse the two. I have personally never seen a woman mock a man trying to help feminism, but if you have an example, share it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:10 AM
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So my knowledge about feminism and long experience aren’t enough? I have never heard about your examples, so I think there might a lot more people like me who weren’t involved. I do recognise that there are feminists that take the woman’s side no matter what, and that is fair criticism of feminism, but it’s very important to know that feminist have this discussion themselves about these issues
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:07 AM
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I agree, but I still think my point is true as well. Women are very likely to support racial issues, lgbt and things like that even if they aren’t a part of those social groups. Even if men are painted as villains, women are in first place when it comes to the people I have seen talk about male issues, and men who bring it up whenever women talk about feminism are in second place
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:01 AM
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Men are taller, smarter, able to provide a better quality of life, less sexist, more open minded, better at regulating their emotions, healthier (yes despite us being fatter), etc... Even if it is an increase, most men I come across aren’t all that… And I think that the women who don’t require men to be providers are increasing too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:56 PM
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Even though I can slightly see your point here: men have mostly improved but women's treatment of men has gotten worse. So I think it's fair to say the root cause of most of the modern problems in dating is women. (With the nuance that you’re most likely seeing a lot of extreme cases and that most people lean towards being fair, empathetic and loving and their relationships) I definitely have something to say about this: The most recent example would be the 4b movement but the more relevant exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:50 PM
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You’re definitely right about it being a human trait and I surely see a lot of women blame others for their problems, but I do still think people are culturally inclined to dislike women more easily and therefore blame them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:37 PM
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I’m with society on this one, because I do think a whole lot of things has the patriarchy as it’s starting point. Bringing that up when a man seeks help is of course another thing and really unhelpful, but I do think it’s true at least
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:35 PM
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I don’t think women have it that much worse systematically nowadays. But if men what to use male depression as an example of a systematic issue, it’s true but a bit weak in comparison if it’s brought up in a discussion about women’s systematic issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:21 PM
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If we’re talking about freedom and not just voting, it’s true that women have fought for centuries
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:10 PM
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Help from women would be in the form of spreading the message though and not pressuring men with gender roles though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:07 PM
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I have yet to see someone bring up something that actually is only done by women and is not just a human thing. But maybe I’m just not around those discussions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:54 PM
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But there’s a difference in how it’s used. But it’s one thing to criticise a real problem within a group of people and another thing to try and disadvantage a group
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:51 PM
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I can’t know the history of patriarchy for sure, but I imagine that since men hunted and most likely did most of the building (note that women still worked hard but as gatherers, with farm work and crafts) men decided they should have more say, and women could do nothing about it since men were both stronger and could choose compliant women to be with. And the way men’s power network worked was by men tending to look up to the man they deem most powerful. But that’s just my guess
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:45 PM
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I really wouldn’t say women are more likely to uphold it. In fact, feminists and women in general are the leaders in all social issues, including helping men and breaking gender roles. I agree that many women still uphold these male gender roles, but so do so so many men, all from the comments under youtube videos to loud boys in school to conservative politicians and their followers to old people. I know you’re most likely talking about men having to be providers in our dating culture and I agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:37 PM
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Saying this is the whole of feminism is just so wrong. Most women have empathy and also realise male rape victims must be recognised, even rape by coercion, so that we strengthen the justice system for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:23 PM
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Under every community post on youtube from news channels about something bad having happened to a woman, there will be at least one saying she deserved it. Not many, of course, but still chillingly common. And believe me, even if I can’t judge someone for the the bystander effect, most people don’t do anything when a woman gets assaulted. There are male feminists but they’re few. Maybe just as many as women advocating for male issues. Women hold other women accountable ALL THE TIME in my experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:11 PM
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How can you confuse women mocking misogynistic men with men that actually help?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:03 PM
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Many feminists do in fact care and advocate for men’s issues, more than most other types of people even, since we 1) have empathy, and 2) recognise that male gender roles indirectly hurt us women. Feminists aren’t all the same and there are many types
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:58 PM
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For your information, feminists are trying to get other feminists to stop doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:54 PM
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Don’t say ”women” like it’s most of us. Many many feminists try to break men’s gender roles too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:48 PM
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Even though some feminists are like that, it’s far from everyone. Many feminists do in fact try to break that gender role for men, more than many other people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:46 PM
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Both can exist at once. Both the patriarchy and racism
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:44 PM
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It’s almost equal so I wouldn’t call it majority. Plus, since we can only vote on leaders, not policy, it’s not that significant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:41 PM
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One thing I have to say is that all movements have the responsibility to make it known that they have issues, otherwise everyone else wouldn’t know about it. Feminism has made their own issues heard and male activists should too so that women know about it in the first place and can get involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:38 PM
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Feminism is for women’s rights and equality, so everyone should be feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:32 PM
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I agree that most men aren’t excreting power, but I still think most men benefit from being seen as more important and taken more seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:23 PM
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I agree that it’s not men’s fault in a literal sense, but I think there’s a certain culture created by men that makes rape so prevent. I really wish people wouldn’t take it so personally
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:18 PM
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Wow, wow, wow, wait a little… Do you mean that necessary shouldn’t be the goal because we should focus on employing the best for the job or do you mean equal power to women would be a bad idea…?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:14 PM
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Just because someone’s ideal partner is a muscly man with loads of money, emotional intelligence, good looks, great fashion sense, height and the exact same values doesn’t mean that women don’t fall in love with imperfection people. You have an ideal type too, right? Most do, both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:06 PM
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Exactly, this is my impression too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:01 AM
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Hormonal contraceptive. Ah, that pill. Birth control made so many lives better by giving them control and therefore more freedom in their lives, so that’s a great invention. A nitpick, but nut peelers are objectively more important You said it was a nitpick yourself, so I can’t say anything about that, but what about my point? Women have always grown crops, helped at the backside of businesses, produced things in factories, and raised new humans. Women have always kept things running in the ways…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:46 AM
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About everything you said about men producing more, from materials to books to innovation to services): Yeah, I know, I’m not arguing against that, but I still don’t think it’s due to biology. If it was, then why would there for example be an increase from one female engineer in Sweden 1917 to 60.000 today? It has to do with accessibility, less discrimination and changes in attitude. Why would women suddenly want to work with certain things now and not before? I don’t think it has to do with new…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:56 PM
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This does not change my stance fundamentally, because my argument is not that women's contribution is zero. My stance is that even when women contribute less, it’s not their choice, so it doesn’t count, plus a different view on what contribution is, because if men did the building material and women did everything else that was left (being a store clerk, for example) then we have all contributed to the buildings being made. It’s only that people think the ones that built the pyramids are more im…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:13 PM
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Of course, it’s okay. I also have to study, so it’s the same with me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:49 PM
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Not to bombard you with replies, but I just realised something… Who are the retired people? People from my grandparents generation. First of all, it was way less common to go to university at that time. None of my grandparents on either side of my parents went to university, and although my grandpa landed a job as an automation engineer from no experience and just learned as he went, my grandma worked as a secretary while my grandparents on my mom’s side were both factory workers. And this was d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 12:06 AM
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You think saying something is evil and jealousy are correlated? Is that really proof? I can’t say Hitler is bad without being jealous of his power? I told you, I don’t think normal people or even millionaires to a certain point need to have the responsibility of saving the world, only billionaires that wouldn’t even notice if the money disappeared. I’m only a university student on a student loan who has already donated 200 dollars to Rainforest Trust meanwhile billionaires are showing how they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:20 PM
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Jealousy? You mean by people that have nothing to eat, right? Because I only worry about the world’s problems. And no, not theft. I just think that billionaires are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:40 PM
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Don’t worry, take your time! Since you seem so civil, I will try my best to be that too and not let myself slip into being mean. And to answer the rest, I know it’s possible for the sexist discourse to get too far, but more often than not, I think women are in the right… Because some things aren’t obvious. For example with what you said about men saying when they find women unappealing. I don’t have a problem with whatever preferences people can have because people don’t choose that, but I don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:24 PM
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I don’t know. I agree that people should be rewarded for their hard work, so most millionaires can do what they want. But it gets to a point. Billionaires can buy yachts to their hearts’ content and they still won’t ever use most of their money. And to be nitpicky (even though it’s a real issue) they would pollute the planet if they spent all their money on stuff. Since they have so much money, I personally find it evil that they could easily help so many people but they don’t. Well, the theoret…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:49 PM
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My source never mentions workforce participation; From your source: ”Unlike men, unmarried women have higher lifetime earnings than married women, never married women having the highest earnings (approximately $560,000) and remarried women have higher lifetime earnings than continuously married women. These patterns are consistent with lower labor force participation of married women relative to unmarried women.” ...Because the topic of your OP is ”Women are freeloading and ungrateful”, thus, we…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:43 PM
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Half of marriages still don't survive to 20th anniversary, women still initiate 2/3rds of divorces, 55% of women still rely on men as primary or sole breadwinners. I don’t really understand stand why red pillers like to bring the divorce thing up. To be fair, no one has outwardly said women are bad for this (well, people have in youtube comment sections…), but it still sounds like that’s what you mean when you bring it up in a discussion like this. Of course it’s sad to divorce if one of the peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:42 PM
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Police force does not boil down to "almost-only-women under-serving men, over-serving women, and getting paid with men's money for it". I don’t understand what you said. All the times I got maltreated by female nurses, or they demanded I do their job for them, or they laughed in my face when I told them where it hurts, could make a decent-sized horror story. But sure, men don't ask for medical help as much just because they're lazy and reckless. First of all, the fact that you make it sound like…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:41 PM
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(I’m gonna create three replies since it would be too long otherwise) Share of women farm owners here, food security here, remove records where less than both data points are known. Correl and Pearson give -0.21. Not an iron proof, but nice reality check. My older analysis was on larger and older data set, and used net food exports as proxy of food security; the result was basically the same. I agree on the rest (women being important). You think the lacking food security in poor African countri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:38 PM
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They’re still billionaires with mindblowingly amounts of money they will never use, so I definitely think they should use it for more good. Plus, many escape taxes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:51 PM
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Didn’t you see my other reply? I answered all the claims you made against feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:49 PM
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Saying men are unappealing when they’re sexist is wrong now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 06:08 AM
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First of all, feminism is the movement for women related issues, so you shouldn’t have beef with them for not including you in their fights. That’s not to say that women that identify as feminists shouldn’t help with male issues, it’s just that the area of feminism don’t have that purpose. It’s like how both the environment and diversity are important things for a government to think about, but there’s different organisations working on them. You can’t blame feminism. And also, it’s not feminism…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 05:53 AM
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I give up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 04:30 AM
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You’re saying a man would make a better decision when faced with a professional and their tricks? You know what, it turned out that you were right about women spending much more in just about everything. Not to backtrack, but I don’t see anything wrong with it. Spending money on enjoyable food, trips, furniture and clothes (second hand, I care about the environment) is the best way to live life in my opinion. When it comes to peacocking, I can’t speak for all women since I don’t really know how …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 04:29 AM
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We're on different wavelengths from the start if you begin with taking a metaphor literally. I meant it metaphorically too… I just couldn’t believe that’s the metaphor you use for women’s labour. Last time I ran numbers, higher share of women among farmland owners impacts national food security negatively, with exception of countries that are mostly deserts. The "women make up 51% of farmers" non-stat is a myth based on including non-commercial backyard cucumbers. Argiculture as we know it today…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 04:02 AM
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I don’t know about tech ensemble because it was hard to find any statistics about all kinds of factories’ gender ratio, but the clothing industry and things like fruit/vegetable picking has more women. Things that people use everyday, just like how people use the houses low income construction workers build https://hmgroup.com/sustainability/fair-and-equal/gender-equality-in-our-supply-chain/ https://www.fao.org/family-farming/detail/en/c/1634537/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:18 AM
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Help me out here because I’m genuinely lost
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:12 AM
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Downvotes instead of anyone telling me why I’m wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:38 AM
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No study, but enough anecdotes that it seems too common at least
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:32 AM
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No study, but enough anecdotes that it seems too common at least
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:32 AM
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I never cared about height or my future having a bigger income than me, so I’ll just move on with my life after reading that part… But you have a very black and white thinking if you think women only give birth when there’s women in every occupation out there. Like, if I should act the same as you, then I’d say you’re cooked since you don’t hunt anymore or protect us. What happened to nuance?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:29 AM
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You’re saying that the market not awarding house work is a sign that it isn’t valuable… By the same logic, a man fixing the car isn’t valuable as well, right? We’re talking about difficulty here, not anything else. House work should be taken seriously from the perspective of a couple living together, not from society, because it’s private business. I just don’t like the fact that men act like if women didn’t do the housework at home, then they would be forced to do it instead. It IS contribution…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:22 AM
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Can’t believe you pulled the ”boohoo, women chose this” and still are on the side of men complaining about working more… Those men would be completely fine just being cashiers. Women wanting children doesn’t discredit that we want recognition for their work it takes, we just don’t want it do be seen as nothing or unimportant. I also can’t believe you brought poor people into this like Filipino women, because poor people usually have to work more hours to stay afloat, that’s why they manage to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:05 AM
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Oh wait, sorry, missed the ”in total” bit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:55 AM
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Oh god, now I read what’s in the link ”when parenting”. Tell me how men do more work in the house when the number of hours say it’s Household activities: 2013: men 2,02 women 2,73 2014: men 2,04 women 2,75 2015: men 1,96 women 2,77 2016: men 2,01 women 2,78 2017: men 1,98 women 2,74 2018: men 2,02 women 2,83 2019: men 1,87 women 2,70 Leisure and sports: 2013: men 4,50 women 3,98 2014: men 4,41 women 3,94 2015: men 4,18 women 3,78 2016: men 4,02 women 3,75 2017: men 4,25 women 3,89 2018: men 4,23…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:48 AM
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Yep, I have read what was written in the first link (”when married”) and I know you aren’t reliable now. The picture of the American time use survey clearly shows with its numbers that women each year take more care of the house and family members. Did you do that on purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:26 AM
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You mean… rich men spoiling women..?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:12 AM
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You say men can live a simple life style meanwhile a lot of men spend money on boats, fishing gear, cars, gucci clothes, shoes, online betting, and more I’m not aware of? Humans just do whatever the norm is, I bet there’s nothing biological that would make one gender more materialistic than the other. Men like you also tend to have an unrealistic theoretical view on how useful the genders are, because sure, some families probably still have the man fix the garage door, but I trust professional w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:07 AM
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Yeah, the things you said are definitely not based on numbers… First of all, really? Decorating is what women do when I just wrote an essay about women making clothes, collecting food, working on fields, taking care of children? Can we live without all of that? And nowadays, women are dentists, doctors, scientists, office jobs, and other things that doesn’t even matter to mention since everything supports the economy anyways. Now, I haven’t looked up the numbers either, but how can single childl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:53 PM
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So you mean tax usage?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:35 PM
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Okay, then I take it back. That’s good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:34 PM
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I see men say mean things about women online ALL THE TIME, because misogyny is undeniably a big issue and hate against women is provably much more common than women hating on men (and women usually have good reasons). I’m not saying it’s in any way good to be mean to innocent people, but it’s just not true that people are more mean to men than women. It really seems like it’s common for men to take a few women’s actions and make a whole generalisation, because you act like all women are expected…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:28 PM
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Define grateful, because why does it seem that women are ungrateful? I think it’s enough to just think ”oh yeah, glad another day has gone by without a man strangling me for no logical reason” and then still talk about injustices
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:15 PM
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That sounds like an emotional overreaction, because why is it so devastating that women don’t need men and instead choose them based on looks and personality? Don’t you want other humans to have that choice? Isn’t that fair? Do you only think about yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:56 AM
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You are probably talking about women saying they hate men, because I have not seen unprovoked hostility. Hating men is not meant in a literal sense. It’s in a frustrated sense because of the very real oppression many men partake in whether they realise it or not. Wouldn’t you hate the police if they turned against the people even if not all cops are like that? There’s general hatred and individual hatred. You can understand how one can hate snakes although not all of them are dangerous, right? W…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:50 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:22 AM
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You need to elaborate on the stealing part, but when it comes to tax: the biggest reason women spend more of the tax money is because they have lower paying jobs and tend to take breaks from work more. Why? Because of the patriarchy. Before WW2, men didn’t want women at their jobs, and even during the 80s there was discrimination against women in male dominated fields. The number of women with higher paying jobs are increasing every year but it takes time. And women work less because of the gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:02 AM
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Just because women don’t have a tendency towards it doesn’t mean you can’t be grateful we aren’t violent. You could for example be grateful we weren’t born as aggressive as men. Where does the line go in how much we need to care about the things that aren’t done to us? Now about the common argument that ”women have it easier in life”. Men who say this seem to only mean relationships and sex partners, but what about getting a job, being successful and achieving dreams? The struggle is equal and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:54 AM
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Those that want men to be providers want it because of gender roles and women didn’t create those. I don’t like that there’s women supporting it but it comes from a system. Those that aren’t that interested in feminism will follow the system because it’s the one in place right now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:38 AM
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”Men start being a net positive at 24yo. Being rich or not do no matters unless you think a lot of 24yo are rich dudes swiming in money.” No, I don’t think they’re a lot. It only takes a few. ” Who said they do?” Erm, your source..? Look at figure 10 and 11. ” How does gender roles make women spend less” I’m guessing you meant spend more. Look at figure 8 and 9, they say that men spend more money on things, even though it’s probably because they have more money to spend. If you’re talking about …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:31 AM
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But what do you mean by spousal support then? It sounds like you mean that women seek rich guys to spend their money for their own benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:04 PM
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You think married women use their man’s money on unnecessary things they haven’t agreed on together?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:01 PM
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So true
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:54 PM
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Is that why women (and preferably also men) need to take a break from work the first two years of having a child before they can be put in kindergarten? Yes, it’s not that hard when the children are at school, but that’s not what I’m talking about here. And even if the children are school age, it’s still a whole other job on top of the official one if only one of the parents cook, clean, plan trips, keep check
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:49 PM
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Very much agree
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:44 PM
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Well, then I have to admit it’s a fact that women use more tax money (even though the study didn’t consider what I said about crime). But I have some things to say, because this needs context, and that is that: 1. If the very rich men are in the sample size, they will raise the statistics on males a lot. 2. Since it seems like men and women spend about the same money on healthcare and education, plus that men have more indirect tax, then the reason women have net negative is practically because …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:37 PM
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Please tell me why you think women are the cause for men being violent. By the way, women could poison your food, women could shoot you with a gun, women could push you down the stairs, women could run you over. Are you grateful we don’t? Do you think it’s worth thinking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:45 PM
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What ”trends” and ”data”? Just look at this: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2024/05/living-arrangements.html It seems like women and men are equal for once
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:37 PM
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The majority of women work every day… You sound like you live on a different planet
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:33 PM
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I sincerely tried to search for which gender use up most tax money but I didn’t find anything. It would help a lot if you gave a source. Until then, I’m still firm in my believes that men use more tax money due to them doing most crimes and the most reckless driving etc. I’m not familiar with what tax money goes to but except for healthcare and the police, aren’t everything else used by the government for everyone’s equal use? School, military, infrastructure, child benefit, retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:30 PM
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Wait, are you really saying the world is bad right now because women do nothing..? Or because of women at all..?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:14 PM
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Can you explain this more? Do you mean that women use more tax money or that they don’t pay as much tax money?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 07:02 PM
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Oh yeah 😂 Well, both statements have no ground so I guess it’s easy to switch between them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:55 PM
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It’s like saying ”our ancestors worked with agriculture while also watering the crops”, because cleaning clothes is a part of taking care of children (and yourself). And if you take all the tasks associated with raising a child and give it a salary, it’s as hard as the other jobs I mentioned. You can gladly compare the jobs I mentioned and tell me why they’re harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:53 PM
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Raising children is as hard as a ”real job”, because you need to constantly be with them, do tasks like clean, cook, walks, play, help. It’s not easier than working at a store, it’s not easier than working in an office and it’s not easier than building someone else’s patio for their house. Men don’t do it because they can’t have multiple jobs at once and they had gender roles or even the choice to choose working with something else. Building a building might be ”more important” since we all need…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:45 PM
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Women have always worked since the dawn of time. Also, not that long ago, many kinds of jobs didn’t want women, but women always did something even then, like always. There’s still many male dominated industries so you don’t have to worry about not getting a job, but I get how it can be annoying if someone gets a job for just being a woman. Except for the women are required to know what they’re doing, so that’s wrong. If a work position stood between a man and a woman who were just as good as ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:34 PM
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I have met women who want to pay half and for a whole date. I’m not sure since I haven’t talked to many people about that, but I think dating culture where I live aren’t centered around payment and restaurants. But sure, I have also met those that want to be paid for and that’s rooted in patriarchy’s gender roles. I don’t like those gender roles either, I think they should go, but society isn’t like I want it yet. Also can you give me examples of the other instances a woman does less for the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:26 PM
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Yes, I also think that might be the true underlying cause for why they would go down this extremist path… Women love skilled men with good personalities so they can probably get a date with a woman of the same attractiveness level. And with that woman, he would learn that woman are more humans than he thought. So obviously these men haven’t tried that since they’re here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:13 PM
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Exactly, and by the way, why aren’t those men fucking each other to show their gratefulness? There’s surely men out there who just work at a desk job and need to make up for not using his muscles enough… Oh wait, he’s protected by his male ancestors who PROBABLY built a house. Or more probably worked on the same wheat field as women, but hey
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:09 PM
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Things are becoming more and more equal between the genders for each year and I’m really thankful for that. Those conservatives are left but I hope for not much longer
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:04 PM
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Exactly, and you need to remember who gives you that comfortable life and life at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:00 PM
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Okay, maybe… Also, I think they will just ignore my post anyways, so I get what you mean 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 04:59 PM
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That’s good for you, I hope you two are happy together. I actually don’t know about the difficulty for guys, I usually just see comments on youtube where guys say how women would never date a guy that isn’t rich and shorter than 6 feet… Maybe it’s American culture because the majority of people in my country is middle class, so there’s no different incomes to choose from. And I’ve never heard about it either
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:20 AM
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Yeah, I think that those men lose the women that want to be more progressive. Women are divided with their preferences so I think it’s safe for men to choose their own values. And yeah, women who want to be provided for will realistically need a very rich man if that’s going to be possible in this economy, and most people are only middle class. But if she manages to get someone while being open with it, good for her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:30 AM
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How could they rebuild society without women to grow the population? I think a group of women could also do a good job of surviving since humans are so adaptable. When a human needs to, I think they will learn what’s necessary, so I imagine how a group of women would get more muscles and learn some skills. But I get it, you mean that men are the only ones that have actually done it, but those were only a few times. For the majority of human existence, women and men have lived side by side and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:25 AM
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Share the study please
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:08 AM
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Ah, okay, I see. Also, I hope the link works now
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:04 AM
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I’ve heard men say they can’t get rid of their gender roles since they get less options in women that way. I guess that includes providing for a woman just so that he can finally have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:03 AM
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Yeah, I did really search… The ai summery told me it means ”diversity, equity and inclusion” and ”environmental, social and governance” so I thought I did a good summery. I know all sorts of work places try to hire more women, and that’s because men currently take most of the space. It’s to become more equal. I don’t think men will be pushed aside anytime soon, but tell me if you have a study about it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:00 AM
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Well, will you look at that. Then I guess it’s ”only” the police force and rescuers that men use tax money on. But also, if I can throw out a personal theory: except for childbirth, I think a big reason women seek healthcare more is because men just tend to not worry as often even if they probably should since they are more prone to things like high blood pressure, I believe, which will lead to a lot of other issues. I also think men seek care much less often for mental illnesses than women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:54 AM
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That’s true. This is my personal theory, but I think men are more desperate to get into relationships because they care about sex more…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:38 AM
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Most young adults in Sweden move out and live alone during university and then quickly get a parter they move in with, so it’s rare to live with parents here at least… I can’t speak much about USA but according to https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2024/05/living-arrangements.html it seems like women and men are equal when it comes to how many live alone and with their parents
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:35 AM
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Honestly, rich men should pay much more in taxes. They are the real freeloaders by escaping them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:18 AM
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Yeah, I’ve seen those influencers and I just think they do harm to feminism… It’s okay if both people in a couple agree on it, but it SHOULD NOT be a gender role. That will just limit everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:17 AM
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That’s true, I’ve met women like that, but I don’t think they are enough to say women are freeloading, especially not in society since they have a job
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:15 AM
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But my point is that they wouldn’t be able to control the laws without some labour of women. Laws can only work in a society and a society can only work with women too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:11 AM
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I already told you about some ways men use tax money in another reply, so I’m skipping talking about that here. I had to search up what DEI and ESG are and I think you basically mean the society favors women? I’m not an expert about issues in USA but I have heard about custody of kids only going to one parent. Feminists didn’t create that, it’s just that women and men have always trusted women with kids more. I believe that’s wrong and that if should be like in Sweden: the separated parents get …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:09 AM
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What do you mean? Do you have examples? In Sweden taxes goes to healthcare, and elderly men usually have more health issues. A lot of our taxes also goes to the police and most criminals are men. Most people lost in the wild are men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:00 AM
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What beef do you have with us?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:57 PM
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I’m so thankful that those men seem to be the extremist minority… Humans are all dependent on each other like machinery!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:57 PM
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Out of all the gender debates, ”women being freeloaders” sounds so detached from reality…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:54 PM
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First of all, since feminism has given us more choices, more and more are women. Second of all, who made the food so that the officers can eat and go make the law? If women stopped working, men wouldn’t be able to have power, or anyone else in society for that matter
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:49 PM
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Because they have higher paying jobs? I think it’s a very hateful and unnecessary thing to think about but I guess it could be right. Women have been withheld from certain jobs and now that we have more choices, more women are choosing those high paid jobs. That way, we aren’t the ones that made us freeload, it was men. And why is being a feminist ungrateful? Is it ungrateful to for example not want men to rape us or stereotype us?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:42 PM
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Sounds like you live in a poverty area. I don’t think that’s the norm in USA and certainly not in my own county Sweden
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:38 PM
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That would be a truth, but women aren’t reliant on men in societies with law enforcement and police
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:36 PM
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I guess that would be a truth without society’s police force, laws and security. With law enforcement, women don’t have to be dependent on men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:34 PM
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Exactly, I think those claims were exaggerated from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:29 PM
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Can you elaborate because I don’t know what you meant by your first comment. What more do women need from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:27 PM
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What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:25 PM
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Ah, well, I hope my reply sound open for discussion when you get to read it 😅 Have fun and I’ll try to remember going back to Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:29 AM
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I hope you still answer because I read the NIH article about sexual victimisation and found it interesting. Yeah, it really does seem like males experiences sexual harassment as often as females, varying from category to category. The study defines rape as anything sexual that is unwanted, which is a good thing, since cohesion into sex should also be counted for victims sake. Yeah, I thought most perpetrators were males and the article says that most people think the same. Here’s the thing thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 02:23 PM
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