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This depends on the woman and culture, but I know in general it goes like this: if you give sex to men too early before there's a bond they lose interest when the hormones subside, this gives you less time to develop a bond emotionally. The idea is to establish an emotional bond before a physical one. If you are just going to have sex with an attractive men you wouldn't want a relationship to this isn't an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:13 AM
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Where's the statistics on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:32 PM
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Doesn't say anything about men with taller women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:09 PM
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I am not sure if there's any sources for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:17 PM
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Some women are into the softboi aesthetic, this might work out for you if you invest in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:43 PM
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Personally I'm pro-abolition of marriage. It's just disastrous for both parties, especially with capitalism the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:16 PM
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Masculinity: I like most masculine men, but it has to be a well-kept/groomed masculinity, than a sloppy one. I like groomed beards, broad shoulders, and a confident and respectful stance. I don't mind masculine with a feminine touch, it can be nice. I don't like hypermasculinity to the point he's a bit of a himbo/insecure. I don't like them to be over-dominant though, masculine men who are a switch are really hot. Femininity: Not hyper-femininity. I don't like femboys and crossdressers, they giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:12 PM
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Yeah I agree with this, I use okcupid and I don't find most of the men attractive on it. As a bisexual female when I switch to look for women only I find women on it are much more nicer looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:59 PM
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Other women have their own standards and I admit I cannot speak for the general group, just like I assume you cannot speak to the general group of men being hypersexual. That being said, I do think women are more likely to attain higher value men than vice versa, my theory is that women are generally higher quality in general due to genetics and how male preference dominated media has upheld feminine features as beauty, even an ugly woman looks a lot better than a man around the same rating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:58 PM
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Yes but height isn't the only attribute people discriminate on. Men like women with petite bone structures and curvy fat distribution body types. Most men I know wouldn't date a woman with a masculine facial phenotype, for example. Women state preferences but in general are more likely to let things slide for dating, men are less picky for sexual encounters but as just as picky as women for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:06 PM
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It is from okcupid still, and does show how men are very visual indeed. So hey, still relevent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:04 PM
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As horrible as it sounds, she's not wrong. It really do be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:50 PM
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Yeah most men aren't conventionally attractive, or they could be if they tried. Women who aren't naturally conventionally attractive tend to enhance with things like makeup and clothing; men typically don't unless really pushed to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:48 PM
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I can name a ton of less conventionally attractive men married to attractive women. This isn't sex specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:47 PM
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I'm sorry but I've witnessed this on both ends. Honestly that's basically the experience anyone who deviates far from the societal norm for their sex in appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:42 PM
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Just how it is I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:40 PM
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Would you consider men who aren't into taller women shallow or vice versa, though? Personally I don't think preferences are shallow in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:39 PM
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Like this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:37 PM
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How does abundance not mean more chance of quality? I think woman have to face pitfalls in dating with men that greatly lower their chances of finding a good one. Of course this is based in subjectivity, but consider how women have to consider more things in a relationship then men do because of gender roles, like him being actually safe to her - she can often easily overpower her, so every time a woman dates she's risking her life. Not only that, there's a lot of social ills between both sexes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:49 PM
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"It's easy to get a date, it's easy to get laid, it's easy to get a relationship, but it's hard to find your soul mate." - Woman proverb.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:12 PM
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I don't respond to guys in bars and clubs, I am picky when it comes to social compatibility and most guys I meet in those places I tend to have nothing in common with. Unless it's for a one-night stand I wouldn't do it, even then I'd have to find him very attractive. If he's in the same social group/club with me there's a chance we have something in common and I am more likely to date a guy that way. You likely have some events that happen around that thing involving both of you, so there's plen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:10 PM
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This shows that's it's a growing trend but it's not normal by any means. I never made the claim it's normal, mainstream, or the majority. I simply said many men do it, you'd never know that they did it, and they have the advantage over those who don't. Simples. Those before and afters I linked in my previous post show a huge difference, and as a woman I do find the men who wore it more attractive. Up to you how you want to process that information.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:55 PM
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Yeah but to have 80% of them be "below average"? Lol. Men ranked 50% of women below average and 50% above average in the same study. Yeah, as a bisexual woman I think women are generally more attractive than the average man, I do pity the lack of options among straight women. I find it easier to find an attractive woman than an attractive man on dating sites, so I see it from both sides here. Even a slightly overweight woman looks better than the average slightly overweight man. Thats especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:53 PM
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Probably? But it's probably very similar. Considering my experiences talking to very tall women. Short men say that they feel feminized/emasculated by their height, women consider them more feminine and prefer to have a taller partner who makes them feel like the "woman" in the relationship. Some women will go for a shorter guy, but this is a minority. Taller women (and I mean 6 foot and above) feel masculinized by their height, men who date them are made to feel "short" and thus emasculated. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:36 PM
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"Ugly" is a subjective term. Ugly is in the eye of the beholder, if the woman consider a short guy ugly because he's short, than lo and behold, he's ugly to them. No difference. A lot of men wouldn't date a 6 foot 3 and above woman who towers over them, it's natural and just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:25 PM
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Do your research on this one before getting angry, it's real. Also this is still not proof that most men are wearing makeup. Just the insta models you pointed out Also. I said just now "I didn't say most, I said many." - did you read my post at all? I think you're the one who needs to touch grass. A lot of men, even ones I know in real life are even using filters on social media now. It differs among social groups and demographics of course, but a reminder of how culture changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:22 PM
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Sometimes I see a dude and he's ugly and thus feel no attraction to him, and I'm sure you see ugly women and think exactly the same. What's the difference between you and I?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:20 PM
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Abundance =/= more chance of quality. I think more quality women (this is including dateability, not just appearance) exist than quality men, as a bisexual female and my experiences with dating. I think women don't overrate themselves that often, they just are very good at bargaining in the sexual market and pushing their luck because men have low standards (with fucking, re: relationships they're about the same) - competing with other women since childhood, sometimes to their own detriment. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:16 PM
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Maybe there was nothing they saw in the guy that they actually liked and had to resort to appearance, did you consider this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:08 PM
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Makeup is a game changer for women. But most men can not use that as a game changer because most men are not using it. S On the contrary they could start wearing it right now and a majority of people wouldn't notice it. They could if they wanted to, while it's not conventional I wouldn't judge them. Men have to put most of their effort into attraction physically into stuff like working out, clothes, and hairstyles. If men did latter two more success would increase significantly, sadly I think a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:06 PM
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If women are rating men based on appearance, they will only choose appearance based attributes because they don't know him. Men are no different when rating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:59 PM
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Depends on the female group. In the mainstream, a younger female virgin is normal but an older one is weird and her attractiveness or "how this happened" will be called into question. In religious circles, an older virgin female isn't judged for this or it will be seen positively, but there will be questions on why she's not married.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:54 PM
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There are some societies that exist/existed on earth where it's normal for either gender to initiate the relationship. But my theory is that men-leaning relationship initiation comes down to traditional Christian values that went into "Lady" and "Gentleman" gender roles. It was not considered modest for a woman to approach men, and I think this has stuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:51 PM
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Yeah as a woman getting laid is significantly easier, but the quality of the lays themselves are pretty terrible. There is a known orgasm gap between heterosexual women and men relationships, a lot of men don't know where the clitoris is and only learn their techniques from porn, a lot of them are really just there to nut and leave. A lot of them don't foreplay, or are a bit selfish in bed. I have never orgasmed from a hookup. The attractiveness ratio women and men are skewed, most men are not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:40 PM
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What is considered attractive or not attractive is cultural, however lookism is just human nature. As cruel as it is, that's just how it is. You can't force attraction. Of course there's things you can do to offset being less attractive, IE: Makeup, fitness, fashion, but you have to play the card you're dealt with. When I was a young teen I was on the uglier side and when I developed I moved more to the conventionally attractive side - the difference between how men treated me back then (even wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:34 PM
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No this is something both genders do, this is normal human behaviour, men only have lower standards when they have less success in dating (unattractive), but it's higher when their prospects are better, even women do this if it applies to them. Shallow =/= having a preference for attractive people. A shallow person is someone who will only consider appearance in dating and nothing else (IE: don't care if their partner is compatible with them, has a personality, etc, just wants them for their loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:24 PM
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Right off the bat, what percentage of men meet even those requirements? The 80/20 rule is pretty well proven on attractiveness; "self-sufficient" means different things to different people, but a recent survey of 30-40-year-old women in Miami put a lower limit of $120k/year on men they would find acceptable, which is the 88th percentile of income. It depends on class. A mid-to-upper middle class woman may find this salary self sustainable. I am working class, so this just means the man has a ful…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:52 PM
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Lol no it's not. Muscles are attractive to women. Studies actually says so Read it again. It's not an essential preference. Woman find men attractive with or without muscles. It works as an advantage, but isn't needed. Many men do NOT use male makeup. I don't where you get this idea. Many men do use makeup, it's usually the middle-to-upper classes, it's more common in some countries than others. The men with either good genetics, or wear makeup have an advantage over those who do not. Men's make…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:47 PM
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I like men who are physically attractive, self-sufficient, good mannered, smart and have good social ability to carry a conversation and keep it going with moderate political compatibility. You usually do not have this combination all at once usually - so it may be considered high standards. Shallow? I don't think so. Shallow would imply you don't care about personality and attributes, women are picky on those too. Men can sleep with an attractive woman even if he hates her, which I find shallow…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:09 PM
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It's true though, men just really aren't that attractive, there's very few men who I'd stop and say "wow he looks really good."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:05 PM
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Muscularity is a myth of essential preference for women, yes it is nice, but it's like big breasts - not necessary. Makeup does indeed exist for men, many men actually use it, they just don't talk about it for obvious reasons. It can improve your looks significantly. Male bodytypes that are actively disadvantaging are actually very skinny or very overweight types, being average is fine, being toned is good, being fit/muscular is an advantage. I'd say one of the biggest physical disadvantages a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:57 PM
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Most men who struggle with dating are disadvantaged because they are not conventionally attractive, this is similar for women as well, but women usually are socialised to work with it. So a woman will apply makeup, select clothing for her figure, and do anything to boost her attractiveness up. Men don't really do this, they will wear basic/unattractive clothing and do not do their hair or try to figure out what women currently chase (the closest I've seen men do is worry about unalterable attrib…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:50 PM
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Older men have been cold approaching me since I was 14. Never at any point have I given into one of these men, I'm now in my late twenties. When I see a man cold approaching I assume he's doing it for sex, I see his appearance and usually it's a huge "no". I tend to walk right past.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:37 PM
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I play video games and I am semi involved in gamer communities but I don't think I'd want to marry a full time gamer. My list of reasons are as follows: They tend to be lazy/unpassionate and unambitious. A lot of them do spend copious amounts of time gaming, and will resume doing this once the novelty of having a gf wears off. They are not romantic types, there is a common correlation I've seen with my girl friends having gamer boyfriends and them neglecting her and never taking her out anywhere…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:34 PM
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This is happening because young men are increasing embracing hikikomori lifestyle and playing video games instead of pursuing ambitions and careers. The scary part is that these men are still preferred over women with degrees if they dropped the controller to get into the workforce. I couldn't imagine being a "working mom" wife to one of these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:30 PM
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I never grew up in a nuclear household so traditional gender roles never got that strongly enforced on me. That said, in relationships I do judge a man slightly if he doesn't offer to pick up the check, offer to walk me home, etc - not because I think that's how it should be or that I need it, but rather because men who ditch the check can either be A) Just non-traditional, or B) closet misogynist, or C) Not trying to woo me and dtf, and I have to guess which one it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:27 PM
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Not really, at this age most men shed their social insecurity and actually have a stable career around this time, this is the age where they look to settle down and actually find a woman. Usually they approach it much differently than in their teens and young adulthood, hence more successful. Men are not more physically attractive at this age, just more confident and relaxed around women. Hope that gives insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:23 PM
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My main struggle with men is not finding an attractive one, but instead finding one that is actually compatible. I can go with average if his personality is interesting, but often this is not the case. With attractive men you find their egos are high, and many are commitment phobes - maybe young women fall for this but I can usually see past it. Even worse is the less conventionally looking male, or the one who thinks they are often start to form complexes about women and get socially conservati…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:17 PM
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