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| 3 | "When we talked about domestic violence, we never talked about how these women were so delinquent and terrible and they needed to get their heads together and be taught right. We talked about protecting them from people who are trying to hurt them. We don't talk about men that way."Absolutely. We spend way more as a society ostensibly trying to protect white women from the dangers of their domestic partners, while black men are being murdered regularly. Anyone up in arms about that? heck no. Just keep spending more on VAWA. Notice there's no VABMA. Violence-against-Black-Men-Act. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/10 01:11 AM |
| 2 | No-fault divorce destroys the concept of marriageya, well it's not uncommon. Another sad but true tale. There are too many of these, and the one consistent theme is that the men lose their children, or their fortune, or both. I was a working dad, but I don't see how that has any relevance to whether I should lose custody. It doesn't, in any rational universe. Only in the modern divorce court does it make sense that if I worked specifically to provide for my family, I lose my family when my wife decides to walk. And then, surprise! since you do… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/10 09:50 PM |
| 3 | No-fault divorce destroys the concept of marriageThe only thing that needs changing about "no fault" divorce is better protection for men I agree 100%, as long as you include "protection of custody rights for fathers" in your phrase "protection of men". The pattern is proven: want a divorce? Don't want to give up the lifestyle? Allege physical abuse, obtain defacto custody of children while dragging the father through a legal morass. Over time, defacto custody magically trasforms into legal custody. In the end, the mother wins financial suppor… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/10 02:47 PM |
| 0 | NY Man Free after Woman Recants Rape Claim. He was 3 years into a 20-year prison term.is it fun for you, to insult people? | /r/MensRights | 10/05/10 12:33 PM |
| 1 | NY Man Free after Woman Recants Rape Claim. He was 3 years into a 20-year prison term.Let's see how forgiving you are after spending 3 years in jail over a lie I lost my kids over a series of lies. My own children. My beloved children. It's not for 3 years. It's forever. If I don't forgive I am lost. People make mistakes. Sometimes they're very big ones. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/10 12:32 PM |
| -1 | NY Man Free after Woman Recants Rape Claim. He was 3 years into a 20-year prison term.With all the commenting I do, I really don't have time to actually read the things I comment on. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/10 03:10 AM |
| 1 | NY Man Free after Woman Recants Rape Claim. He was 3 years into a 20-year prison term.What's a mistake then? How about driving too fast and crashing? IS that a mistake? or... is it deliberate irresponsibility? What about forgetting to record a debit, which results in a bounced check? mistake? or is it willfully careless bookkeeping. You're not very forgiving, eh? you ever make a mistake? a big one? Think you might, one day? | /r/MensRights | 10/05/10 03:09 AM |
| 2 | NY Man Free after Woman Recants Rape Claim. He was 3 years into a 20-year prison term.I don't get it. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/10 07:43 PM |
| 1 | " If your husband hopes he can get out of paying you alimony by filing for bankruptcy, he's going to be very disappointed."Equality is a bitch. I agree. Of course it's an absurd world that you describe. I'd rather make the definition of rape quite a bit more restrictive, for everyone. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/10 07:36 PM |
| -1 | NY Man Free after Woman Recants Rape Claim. He was 3 years into a 20-year prison term.Well I think lying is a mistake. You apparently don't. In any case I'm not interested in an argument about semantics. I believe this woman is only pretending to feel bad, so that she can get out of more serious charges. Maybe you're right. I didn't read the piece, but from what you say, it sounds like she's trying to wiggle out after having been caught. That's not commendable behavior, I agree completely. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/10 07:32 PM |
| 2 | " If your husband hopes he can get out of paying you alimony by filing for bankruptcy, he's going to be very disappointed."Women are rapists, enabled by feminism Some Women are rapists, enabled by feminism. FTFY ps; some men are rapists, too. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/10 01:57 PM |
| 2 | DailyShow segment, a drunk woman slaps male interviewer in the face; true comedy. Now imagine if the genders were reversed. (@2:17)Maybe we could all get together and cry ??? It's not about bemoaning the portrayal of men. My post calls attention to the double-standard. It's ok, funny, to slap a man. It's illegal, a jailable offense, for a man to slap a woman. Either way is fine with me, as long as it's gender-consistent. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/10 01:46 PM |
| 3 | DailyShow segment, a drunk woman slaps male interviewer in the face; true comedy. Now imagine if the genders were reversed. (@2:17)Exactly. The issue is not "omigosh, a man got slapped!" it's a thought experiment - what would we think about a reversal of genders? The reason it's only a thought experiment is because, these days it would never be possible to air video of a man actually slapping a woman. Just not possible. I don't think we need to eliminate slapping from TV. I think we need to move to true equity. If slapping is abuse, then it should be treated as such, for all genders, in all situations. If slapping is not ab… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/10 01:44 PM |
| 2 | DailyShow segment, a drunk woman slaps male interviewer in the face; true comedy. Now imagine if the genders were reversed. (@2:17)Even if it was.... reevrse the genders. Would that make the air? Why is it ok, even funny, for a woman to slap a man, but it is unacceptable for the converse? | /r/MensRights | 09/05/10 01:39 PM |
| 1 | NY Man Free after Woman Recants Rape Claim. He was 3 years into a 20-year prison term.Ok, I will call you crazy. "You're crazy." I agree that it takes courage to admit when you've erred, especially in such a public fashion, especially when the results have been so damaging to another person. It takes real courage to correct one's mistakes. I don't think we should revere her for making the mistake in the first place. But for finally, at last, doing what she could to correct the mistake, we should recognize her courage. If more people acted like this woman, there would be many fewe… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/10 01:37 PM |
| 2 | DailyShow segment, a drunk woman slaps male interviewer in the face; true comedy. Now imagine if the genders were reversed. (@2:17)It didn't look staged to me. The way she was flipping out on him obviously surprised him initially. He didn't appear to be expecting the slap when he got it, and it looked like he got hit pretty hard to me. But maybe I'm gullible. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/10 03:18 PM |
| 10 | DailyShow segment, a drunk woman slaps male interviewer in the face; true comedy. Now imagine if the genders were reversed. (@2:17)If he punched her and injured her, not if he slapped her. You seem to be living in dream world. I didn't even slap my wife, I locked her out of the house for a night, after I found out about her affair. And as a result of that, I lost all custody of my kids. I had never been arrested. I still have never been arrested. There was never an injury to anyone. As a result of her going to the court and reporting my actions, I was court-ordered to attend Domestic Violence therapy for a year, with other … | /r/MensRights | 08/05/10 03:14 PM |
| 8 | DailyShow segment, a drunk woman slaps male interviewer in the face; true comedy. Now imagine if the genders were reversed. (@2:17)I imagine there would be a criminal prosecution, if a drunk man in a bar struck Samantha Bee in the face during an interview. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/10 10:37 AM |
| 1 | Enough is enough: Stop demonizing Ben Roethlisberger, the likely victim of a false rape claimThe writer's comments accomplish the seemingly impossible task of insulting two genders at once: they insult men, because they suggest men are predators. I don't see how you get this from the excerpt that begins, "Even if you cast Ben's actions in the most favorable light, they appall. At the very least, he took advantage of a drunk college student who was significantly smaller and younger than him". Nowhere in that article does it say or imply that "men are predators." It said that Roethlisberg… | /r/MensRights | 08/05/10 09:11 AM |
| 2 | Enough is enough: Stop demonizing Ben Roethlisberger, the likely victim of a false rape claimSo the big, evil, nasty man had sex with the sweet, pure, flower of a young woman who is incompetent and can in no way be take any responsibility for her choices. Is our feminist-dominated media STILL resorting to infantilizing women? Nope. That's not what she wrote at all. In fact she wrote that the woman made "horrible choices." The author of the excerpt made no attempt to relieve the woman of responsibility. You're grinding your own axe here. At the very least, Big Ben did take advantage of a… | /r/MensRights | 08/05/10 08:53 AM |
| 2 | Enough is enough: Stop demonizing Ben Roethlisberger, the likely victim of a false rape claimIt's unclear whether there was, in fact, a rape in the Capital City bar in Milledgeville. What is clear: the DA investigated and concluded there was not enough evidence to pursue a case against Roethlisberger. Big Ben was charged with no crime. Big Ben was not detained or arrested, at any time. the involved woman did not seek to press charges. There has been no claim of rape. How can someone allege a "false rape claim" when there is no rape claim to begin with? Now, that website might logically … | /r/MensRights | 08/05/10 08:36 AM |
| 4 | In 2010, We will just assume that the porn on your PC is underage - Adult film star saves man from 20 years prison term.One more reason to vote libertarian. Reduce the police state. I'm not in favor of allowing predator video producers to exploit children for sexual pleasure. On the other hand I'm also not in favor of allowing predator prosecutors to exploit adults for professional pleasure. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/10 08:22 AM |
| 2 | Cheer Me Upps: I'm NOT one of the people unaffected by all this. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/10 10:18 PM |
| 2 | Cheer Me UpMost people don't live in the world of constant conflict. Many people marry, and stay married. Some people divorce, but do it with respect for their soon-to-be-ex partner. The stories you read here are the extreme. They're not the norm. Things need to be changed, but still, many people are unaffected by all this. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/10 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Helpful dads "hurt mums' self-esteem" - Damned if we do, damned if we don't!If I were you, knowing what I know now, I would be getting into therapy with her. In therapy you should demand more of her. It is not acceptable for you to be the main wageearner and also do all the house work. She is not pulling her weight and her feelings are spot-on. If this continues (even if you don't mind the workload) she will eventually crumble, then run to a divorce attorney, who will make the case that you were overbearing and domineering, thus you do not deserve custody of the kids, a… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/10 04:23 AM |
| 1 | Helpful dads "hurt mums' self-esteem" - Damned if we do, damned if we don't!WARNING: this works ! It may sound preposterous now, but it happens, it's a repeated pattern. Beware! | /r/MensRights | 22/03/10 04:22 AM |
| 2 | Helpful dads "hurt mums' self-esteem" - Damned if we do, damned if we don't!Perhaps you can give her a job that's her responsibility alone, that will help her feel important? No. It is not a man's role to "give a job" to a woman to "help her feel important." It is an adult's role, regardless of their gender, to choose a vocation and a role for themselves and embrace it, and do it, and find fulfillment in it. As for the adult's partner - it is THEIR role to to step out of the way, to not interfere, to remain interested and encourage, to NOT jump in unless explicitly requ… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/10 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Helpful dads "hurt mums' self-esteem" - Damned if we do, damned if we don't!entirely unhelpful | /r/MensRights | 22/03/10 04:13 AM |
| 2 | Study: Helpful Dads Damage Mother's Self-Esteem at Home - So...don't help out around the house, eh?I don't know if this study is valid, but... anecdotally, I feel this phenomenon is bona fide in my case. I not only "helped out", I "owned" the tasks in the house, not all of them, and not the extent that I excluded anyone, but I cleaned bathrooms, I did ironing and laundry, I washed dishes, vacuumed. To characterize it as "helping" implies some sort of superior/inferior relationship w.r.t. the housework and I never had that mindset and that dynamic was not present. I never thought "it's her job… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/10 04:11 AM |
| 1 | My views of Alimony and Child Support Reform - do you agree? Please explain if you don't.Ah, my misunderstanding. Could you elaborate on that? Why is 50/50 custody stressful? What makes it stressful? | /r/MensRights | 06/03/10 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Domestic abuse lobbyist murders husbandoh... THAT kind of martyr. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/10 05:38 AM |
| 1 | My views of Alimony and Child Support Reform - do you agree? Please explain if you don't.Not sure why you're telling me to fuck off for saying that 50/50 has torn my stepdaughter to shreds You never said any such thing. You said that "the parties in question" can be petty assholes. I'm pointing out that it doesn't take two parties to be petty. It takes only one. And the one who holds all the cards in a custody battle - the woman - is the one that can afford to be petty, the one who is actually ENCOURAGED to be petty. All she has to do is accuse the man of fostering conflict - no evi… | /r/MensRights | 05/03/10 05:33 AM |
| 1 | My views of Alimony and Child Support Reform - do you agree? Please explain if you don't.I said fuck off for attributing the carnage around divorce and custody to "both parties". The point I made is that "the parties in question" do not need to be mutually hostile. Only one needs to be hostile, and here is the key point, which bears repeating: the one who will win custody by default in a battle - the woman - has all the incentive to be hostile and petty. The one who will lose custody by default in a protracted battle - the man - has no incentive for such hostility. I said fuck off b… | /r/MensRights | 05/03/10 05:27 AM |
| 1 | My views of Alimony and Child Support Reform - do you agree? Please explain if you don't.Fuck off. It takes only one parent to be a petty asshole to screw it up. And, surprise! The one parent least motivated to work for shared parenting is the parent who will get sole custody if shared parenting is "impractical." The woman. The man can be as reasonable, sane, flexible, and understanding as he likes. If the woman doesn't want shared parenting, it won't happen. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/10 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Domestic abuse lobbyist murders husbandUm no. She didn't die. The man did. He's the martyr. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/10 12:40 PM |
| 3 | Objections to erotic materials are often made on the basis of supposed actual, social or moral harm to women. No such cause and effect has been demonstrated with any negative consequence.which is? go ahead, you can tell us. | /r/MensRights | 23/01/10 06:40 AM |
| 1 | I need some advice about potentially suing someone for defamationIt works! | /r/MensRights | 13/01/10 01:25 AM |
| 5 | I need some advice about potentially suing someone for defamationNo, you won't "win" in court. what you can do is make it unpleasant enough that the other side stops hassling you. That's how the game works. You just convince her, through long experience, that you won't tolerate this stuff, and you will drag her into court every time she tries something. It's not personal. It's like training a pet. Just keep on delivering the negative reinforcement. Eventually they get the idea that this thing they are doing, is too unpleasant. and then it stops. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/10 11:41 PM |
| 3 | Since when has it been OK for women to hit men? This is unfair and wrong to men everywhere.a reasonable explanation... A supporting player is the divorce lawyers. They make money if physical abuse is a wicked crime. They also make money if acrimonious divorce is standard procedure and acceptable. If there were no money in it for lawyers, acrimonious divorce would diminish, and would be used only by the truly irrational couples who can't see beyond their own anger. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/10 07:37 AM |
| 13 | Since when has it been OK for women to hit men? This is unfair and wrong to men everywhere.The whole idea is preposterous. Somehow physical contact - let's say, gripping a woman's arm - is considered "abuse". But staging a bitter custody battle, beating the hell out of the father in divorce court, bankrupting the family, and smearing his name as a child abuser, that is considered "just par for the course" in divorce court. That's not abuse. The ridiculous prohibition against physical contact is just a way to revoke men's rights. It's treated as a "nuclear weapon" - where all use is il… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/10 01:23 AM |
| 3 | Men who avoid sex with their wives could face up to 5 years in prison. The progressive new law was passed this month to protect women from domestic violence.this is typical of this subreddit. A55hole, why do you think so many men are ticked off and quick to judge? do you think we were born that way? or maybe it has something to do with the legal rape we suffered in divorce court? Think about it. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/10 10:45 AM |
| 2 | Men who avoid sex with their wives could face up to 5 years in prison. The progressive new law was passed this month to protect women from domestic violence.How long until "making a woman feel bad" and "not listening enough" are crimes. Are you not paying attention? it already is, as far as divorce court goes. I was accused of making her feel bad, and that was the justification for me to lose my house and children. You could say "well there's no criminal record." True, but the penalty is much worse in divorce court, than it ever could be in criminal court. The financial penalty and loss of personal freedom is immense. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/10 10:43 AM |
| 3 | Men who avoid sex with their wives could face up to 5 years in prison. The progressive new law was passed this month to protect women from domestic violence.I actually go this the other way. In my divorce trial, my ex swore she cried every time we had sex, for the last 5 years of our marriage. That would be, oh,... about 30 times. She accused me of raping her in the divorce. So you see, men get it both ways: if we have sex with them, they can allege rape. If we don't they can allege sexual abandonment. ps: anyone know where I can get a home lobotomy kit? | /r/MensRights | 08/01/10 10:41 AM |
| 8 | Dan Savage; You're a douche if you don't like the idea of your GF or wife flirting with and making out with other guys.In some relationships flirting with someone who is not your partner is ok, in some it's not. Making out? That would cross a line for most people, I think. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/10 01:50 AM |
| 7 | As much as mothers want their partners to be involved with their children, experts say they often unintentionally discourage men from doing so. Because mothering is their realm, some women micromanage fathers and expect them to do things their way.Is it possible? Are you kidding? Of course. Not only is it possible, it is common for mothers to intentionaly discourage or undermine fathers. When it happens explicitly in divorce it's called Parental Alienation. Mommy shows up late for exchanges. Mommy doesn't allow the kids to call, or doesn't encourage the kids to call, or mommy files a bogus protection order preventing daddy from calling the kids. But if explicit alienation happens during the divorce, it likely happened before the divorce, … | /r/MensRights | 05/01/10 06:53 AM |
| 2 | First-hand account of abusive relationship: beatings, yelling, ridicule, followed by promises that it would all stop. Repeat.Did you get that decided in a contested divorce, in a courtroom? | /r/MensRights | 04/01/10 10:58 PM |
| 1 | First-hand account of abusive relationship: beatings, yelling, ridicule, followed by promises that it would all stop. Repeat.It's possible for people to agree on 50/50 custody. People do. But in a court of law, in a contested divorce, I think it may be not so much "non-existent" but if not that, then "very very rare". | /r/MensRights | 04/01/10 10:57 PM |
| 8 | The way a domestic violence advert should be doneNice to see. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/10 05:30 PM |
| 3 | Female U.S. teacher jailed for 20 years for sleeping with pupil, 13No, they shouldn't be exploring sex with anyone. Couldn't disagree more. Humans are sexual beings almost from the day they are born. Children do, naturally, explore sex. It varies as they age. When they're one year old, they do different things than when they're 5, and when they're 13. Thwarting those attempts is a perfect way to give them hangups about a perfectly natural part of life. | /r/MensRights | 02/01/10 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Female U.S. teacher jailed for 20 years for sleeping with pupil, 13I agree completely that the sentence is insane. It's one thing for a crime to be wrong and damaging. It's another thing to get a 20-year sentence for doing it. I agree there ought to be less draconian punishments for such things, but I think (a) the sentences come from those "tough on crime" bills that no congressional rep has the capacity to vote against and (b) sanity will probably only happen after (insane) equity returns to criminal sentencing. And another thing - aside from the severity of … | /r/MensRights | 02/01/10 02:43 AM |
| 3 | Female U.S. teacher jailed for 20 years for sleeping with pupil, 13...and also none of my business. | /r/MensRights | 02/01/10 02:36 AM |
| 13 | Female U.S. teacher jailed for 20 years for sleeping with pupil, 13No, it's pertinent because it is the outlyer case. Many people don't realize that, in the USA, there is a system-wide discrepancy in sentencing between men and women for the same crimes. There is a similar bias against blacks and minorities, but the bias against males is persistent even accounting for skin color. For example, a man is found guilty of a crime (say, manslaughter) and gets a sentence of 22 years in prison. A woman is found guilty of the same crime and gets 7-9 years. Why? Because t… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/10 03:46 PM |
| 0 | Is there any way to secure my assets against my wife before mediation/divorce begins? What is my best protection strategy?I don't know. People don't like it I guess. Divorce is unpleasant. | /r/MensRights | 28/12/09 04:34 AM |
| 9 | Is there any way to secure my assets against my wife before mediation/divorce begins? What is my best protection strategy?Hiding assets is not merely "frowned upon". It's a crime. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/09 11:08 PM |
| 2 | Is there any way to secure my assets against my wife before mediation/divorce begins? What is my best protection strategy?No. See a lawyer. You cannot "take" anything of hers. Even if it is a joint account, if you shut it off, it will be declared a controlling action and will work against you. You cannot take her belongings, even ones that you gave her, unless you want to be seen as a dick. What makes you think you are totally fucked? Because you can't have her stuff? I'm sympathetic to the situation for men in divorce, but you're not "fucked" unless she starts playing dirty. You should be thinking defense first, n… | /r/MensRights | 27/12/09 11:08 PM |
| 0 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Thanks for the support. I can understand your motivation to not work in the US, knowing that your money will just go to your ex and her lawyers, Just to be clear, it's not that I don't want her to have money. I understand she needs money. I understand the kids benefit from having money. But I'm no longer capable. I was flattened. I am flattened. I hate that, but it's just true. It's not that I choose not to work. It's that I can't even sleep. Work was carrying me. They knew what was happening. T… | /r/MensRights | 27/12/09 01:27 AM |
| 15 | Domestic-Violence Crusader Mary J. Blige Slugs HusbandIn other news, the woman who attacked the pope is being examined for mental health issues. When a guy hits a girl it is a crime, when a girl hits a guy it is a mental health issue. | /r/MensRights | 26/12/09 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Practical Implications of Current Domestic Violence Research: For Law Enforcement, Prosecutors and Judges | National Institute of JusticeSo not only is it business-as-usual, it recommends building in resistance to any change from business-as-usual. Let's just define the current split between female-on-male and male-on-female abuse as "True" and then anything that deviates (like a correction to correspond to reality) must be resisted. What's gonna happen when the liberalized marriage laws start showing female-on-female abuse? How is the establishment going to blame men for that? | /r/MensRights | 25/12/09 09:55 PM |
| 0 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Nope. I didn't shrug my shoulders, I assure you. I cared quite a lot, at the time. I've moved beyond that, at this point. | /r/MensRights | 24/12/09 06:25 PM |
| 0 | A woman who viewed other men as 'potential rapists' now sees the same standards would apply for her sons!!I may be wrong about the N2O. In any case the women were unconscious for some time, expecting a dental procedure. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/09 10:46 PM |
| 1 | "...the consequences of the rape of men are much less severe than the rape of women." What is it with reddit feminists? Are they really this crazy?People only like to throw punches, they don't like to be on the receiving end. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/09 07:19 PM |
| 5 | Dad wants child support laws rewrittenPartial / shared custody would be fine. Equitable shared custody, and an equitable share in paying. If the state declares a man an unfit father, unfit to care for his kids, and he is relieved of his right to his kids, then he should also be released from his responsibility to support them. No father wants this, by the way. The do not want to be relieved of their children. I believe if these two were tied together, if the money were contingent on the custody, then we wouldn't have the ridiculous … | /r/MensRights | 23/12/09 06:27 PM |
| 4 | A woman who viewed other men as 'potential rapists' now sees the same standards would apply for her sons!!This is weird = in my town there's a dentist who was indicted not long ago for sexually molesting his patients. He apparently would put them "under" using N2O, and then undress them and have his way. Sick. Women would wake up disheveled, with their clothes not quite right, and wonder, what the hell happened? Enough of them complained, and eventually he was caught. But after the conviction they suspended his license, so a background check by patients, wouldn't have helped. But I guess there are o… | /r/MensRights | 23/12/09 06:23 PM |
| 0 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I had never heard of the covenant marriage. Not sure that is the way to go. If a person wants out of a marriage,.... they should get to go out. I think a better approach would be to reform divorce laws so that equity is available to the father. In particular, the handing out of protection orders like candy is an abomination. It settles custody in a defacto manner, unilaterally. A woman says "I am afraid of him" and therefore the man can no longer see his children. As if the children are part of … | /r/MensRights | 23/12/09 05:12 AM |
| 1 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Washington. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/09 02:52 AM |
| 1 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I do. it hurts to be helpless as this happens. They don't deserve this chaos and conflict. It hurts to be away from them. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/09 02:29 AM |
| 4 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)don't just hope. Do something about it! I swear, I never thought I'd be divorced. This is about the ugliest thing I've ever heard of. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 09:47 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Thanks. The kindness of strangers is one of the things that keeps me going. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 08:00 PM |
| 1 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Lots of things could happen. Suppose my sons decided they've had enough and they miss their dad. Suppose they decide they'd rather live with me. If I am in Peru, that won't be a real option. Your wife has probably poisoned their minds against you by now, That may be true, but maybe they are wise enough to see it. If it's true then I could use it to regain better than half custody. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 07:44 PM |
| 3 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)The friend is no longer around. This is a bizarre part, or it seemed bizarre to me: her friends were shocked and dismayed by the affair when they learned of it. Betrayed even. But when they found out she WAS NOT with him, they were even more upset. They felt like an affair to find your true love is justified (even if it breaks a marriage) but to disintegrate the family over nothing, well that was just stupid. I felt insulted by that sentiment, for some reason. That they were more upset that she … | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 06:27 PM |
| 3 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I'd encourage you to post your story, maybe on r/AMA or whatever the reddit is for AskMeAnything. or here. Here is good too. People are generally understanding if you need to change or omit details to ensure privacy. I see people say "Men, NEVER GET MARRIED!" and if I were a young man I would discount it as the rantings of an old grump. I wanted to provide some actual anecdotes to show what really goes on in a contentious divorce. I mean, unless your story starts with "Well, they found me upside… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 06:22 PM |
| 3 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Oh, yeah, the protection order was a long time ago. It was set for a year. But it was just a tactic to gain custody in the divorce. That part is permanent. I could appeal but it would be more of the same. I've already been through the process, and I'm broke. I can't afford another spin on the wheel. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 06:20 PM |
| 0 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)The state where it all went down was Washington. We had moved, while she was carrying on the affair. Actually I discovered it 7 days before we were to sign papers for the new house. I had accepted a new job. The old house was on the market, for sale. We had said our goodbyes. The movers had come and taken our cars. We were moving. And then I found out. So we had a talk and she said she was not interested in leaving the marriage. She committed to counseling, and that we were going to be together … | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 06:19 PM |
| 1 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Ah, thank you for the good wishes. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 06:05 PM |
| 3 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I was that. It's not babysitting. It's my kids. The thing I missed was the one-on-one time. Once I was out of the house, I only got all four of them , or none of them. I loved seeing them, but there was no one-on-one time that was so easy when I lived when them. So I started taking the oldest boy to the gym on Fridays, to play racquetball or shoot hoops, just him and me. Just like the old days. Except I took off half a day of work to do it. We did that twice, and I was going to start doing the o… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:50 PM |
| 1 | "..most women I know (feminists and others) have been sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.." Um, what?I don't buy your reasoning for why sexual assault trumps physical assault. I am unconvinced. Being beaten is traumatic. Being harassed in a divorce trial is traumatic, and messes you up for a long time. Why are they any different? Why is sexual assault special? That sex is "supposed to be special" is an interesting and aggravating aspect of sexual assault, but it seems neither novel nor unique. Walking in a public street is supposed to be pleasant. People who get mugged can be traumatized for a … | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:46 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)What do you do about the arrears? This is my life now, you know? I Can't keep up with what they're asking. What I am legally bound to pay. I will never be able to make the payment. My payments were well over $6000/month. At this point, I have given up. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:40 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I do. There are two others in between. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:24 PM |
| 1 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I'm just... not that into murder, you know? | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:02 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Thanks for the tip. Lots of people do this. I don't know if it's for me. I also don't know why you're getting downvoted. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:01 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Well I'm not working. I couldn't make the payments and I honestly couldn't bear to go to court one more time to ask that they be reduced. I had lost so much in those courtrooms. I watch a lot of TV now. I can barely watch TV courtroom dramas though. I was an asshole (according to her), an abuser (according to the state), no kids, divorced, in debt, and no way to get current. I couldn't keep going. So I stopped. I gave up. I can't sleep. I don't um... function normally anymore. I haven't been out… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:55 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I'm pretty broken, yes. I'm not apathetic about what they did, but I'm exhausted. It was devastating to me. I was not one of those stereotypical fathers you see in hollywood movies, he doesn't give a shit about the kids, and he's cruel to his wife. I was in love with my wife and my kids and my life. Really. It's been hard. I don't know the path out, yet, but I know one path to destruction is to nurture hate inside me. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:50 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)yeah - Italian. I would like to live in Rome. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:41 PM |
| 3 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)No. I will not debate the merits or morality of killing ex-wives. I understand when men do it, and I think it's wrong. No. Just no. actions like this leave people few options. There are plenty of options. One is, going to Zihuatanejo . Another is, grin and bear it. If you mean "there are no options for justice" you're right, I agree. But killing isn't justice. It's retribution. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:37 PM |
| 1 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)What's the name of that town? Zihuatanejo. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:21 PM |
| 1 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Well that was me. I didn't have an affair. When she did, I wanted counseling, which she avoided. She eventually ended counseling and filed for divorce. I proposed settlement terms (for discussion) several times during the divorce process, and she declined to even respond. I think she was at a disadvantage, because of her actions, and dragging it out and accusing me was her way of turning the tables. I hate what modern divorce does to marriage, and to people. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:20 PM |
| 4 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)You watch too many movies. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:00 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I have this thing against killing people. "Thou shalt not kill"... that sort of thing. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:59 PM |
| 1 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)A fair system would be to let the dispute be settled by the parties to the dispute. I think in this case the children and BOTH parties would have come out better, if we had taken this path. I tried to settle. The terms she was offering were unacceptable (time with the kids, mostly). | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:58 PM |
| 1 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I am currently unemployed. Previously I was in software marketing. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Feminist: Husbands and fathers are “useless hunks of flesh”I'm with you on that. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:56 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Thanks for the words of support. I have come to see that I lack wisdom. I thought my life was my family and my possessions. It was not. It was just an illusion. I am starting to see glimpses of the zen wisdom. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:56 PM |
| 1 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Was she a good mother. um, no. A good mom does not have an affair financially destroy the children's future attack the father, and try to destroy him Is she a good mom now? Well, they seem to be physically safe, and they seem to be eating. Will she do a good job teaching them? Yes and No. On the NO side, I think they will learn how to avoid conflict, how to duck responsibility, how to shift blame, and how to hold grudges. They may also learn to drink, but I'm not sure about that part. Not that s… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:52 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)yeah! I like that imagery. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:48 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Well I'm divorced, and I'm restrained from being near her. Wire-tapping is definitely NOT me. It's not safe for me to be anywhere near her, ever again. I mean it's not safe for me. Based on what she's been able to do to me, in the past.... there's no way I would ever want to be near her again. Did she hate me? We didn't have a high-conflict marriage. But she learned to hate after she started the affair, and when she sought help from the women's abuse shelter. Where did all the anger come from at… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:47 PM |
| 4 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)In retrospect - at the time, my father had died suddenly and my mother was fighting cancer. She was very close with my parents, closer than she was with her own. But it was almost like she felt she couldn't or shouldn't be upset about it, because they were my parents. Counseling would have brought this stuff out. Around that time, she started changing her hair. Every few months, a totally different style. I liked them all. But she just kept changing it. In retrospect, one style change is a style… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:40 PM |
| 6 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)That's a hard question. It struck me very suddenly, when the wife of the other man called me, and told me, her husband and my wife were screwing each other. I didn't believe it. I couldn't. It wasn't conceivable. But as time went on, retrospection brought some more signs out. At the time, you know, I noticed these things, but always interpreted them optimistically. Going Waaaaaay back. She was a child of divorce. Happens a lot these days, and no disrespect to children of divorce. But right there… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:39 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I'm hanging in the wings because I'm not prepared to walk away from that part of my life. As I said elsewhere, I'm still concerned about my kids. The process was so surreal. Her family does have mental health issues. Who knows what will happen? And if so, I'd want to be there. But as I said somewhere else, I'm not good at being a backup plan. I haven't figured out how to make a vocation out of that. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 02:15 PM |
| 8 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Oh, my stuff is gone. I did that with the sherriff, I Called them, brought the papers. Drove near my old house. Called again. Apparently they were busy. They told me they'd come. Never did. I Waited, waited. Never showed. I called again, they told me they were on the way. It was like a setup. I drove away. I think maybe they do this just to see what the man will do. My impression is there are multiple attempts at entrapment. Her lawyer actually started an irrational argument with me in court, it… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 02:03 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I take credit for that. We had an understanding that we'd see how it went. We weren't sure about the financial hit, because there were going to be many things changing at once - tax rates declined, housing costs up, sale of the old house, I had got a raise at work. It wasn't clear how it would all shake out. We identified it as a thing to watch and the upshot was - "you may have to get a job." Then it became clear we needed the money, as the old house didn't sell. She never did get a job. Instea… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 01:53 PM |
| 1 | "..most women I know (feminists and others) have been sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.." Um, what?this could be tied to a more general problem of how to properly inform/educate the general population. Well yes. The women's movement has educated America that women are the only victims, men cannot possibly be victims, men are a danger to children. Those views are consistent. It's convenient ans easy and wrong. what is supposed to be a "feminist representative". They'll say things like "its not my problem if he cant afford to pay alimony". And I'm like. WTF?! The adversarial approach you descri… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 01:49 PM |
| 4 | Feminist: Husbands and fathers are “useless hunks of flesh”The feminist ideals started out well. It's gone way too far now. Because of what they've done with the laws, women are above reproach. IT is as if they have come down straight from heaven and are infallible. They can do no wrong. Conversely, the courts treat fathers as less-than-human. Whatever the woman says is true. The woman has an affair and then accuses the man of being unfaithful, and the man is sanctioned. Why does it have to be this way? I don't know. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 01:41 PM |
| 5 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Those don't hold water, it's well known. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 01:38 PM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Yep, it's depression, right out of a textbook. you can start enjoying life again. Well, yeah, except the twist is, the life I enjoyed is gone. No part of it remains. The courts decided that needed to happen. I fought like hell to avoid it. I lost. My life was literally obliterated. I don't have the energy to start again. What's the point? She'll come after me again. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 01:38 PM |
| 7 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)It generally ISN'T that bad. Almost never. The problem is, sometimes it IS that bad, and there is literally no insurance or protection. There is no backstop. It's like buying a house with no insurance. OR a car with no insurance. you could do it, but it wouldn't be wise. The chance that you will have a disaster may be low, but the risk is so high, that it is imprudent. All of this is true only recently. It didn't used to be this bad. I'm a believer in the beauty in marriage, by the way. I come f… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:35 AM |
| 13 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)wise choice. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:24 AM |
| 12 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)2 days a month, plus wednesday evening for 2 hours. Aside from how ludicrous that is, I have no confidence that she is done. Given where we are, all it would take is one allegation from her about me abusing my daughter, and I'd be in jail. I literally felt I was going insane, as I was going through this. It was like a combination of Yossarian and Kafka's bug. I was just watching my life go up in flames, and she kept tossing one more log on the fire. Shit, I know people go nuts. I can accept that… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:24 AM |
| 7 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I appreciate the support, but it's over. It's done. Once she alleges abuse, I am not permitted within 500 feet of her. There is no appeal. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:17 AM |
| 11 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)No no... it's not $50k. I lost much more than that, financially speaking. The entire contents of the house went to her. Why? because She alleged abuse. She forced me to move out (protection order) and then staged a custody battle. This required me to rent a home. Of course I was also paying for her house, which we had just moved to, and which had a mortgage that was double what I had been paying the prior year (we had talked about it, agreed she would get a job to help pay the mortgage, but that… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:15 AM |
| 4 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)oldest is 14. youngest is 7. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:07 AM |
| 19 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)It sounds cynical but it is oh so true. Men, Never get married, and if you do get married, do not agree to her staying at home, quitting her job. That old-timey arrangement is quaint and comfortable if you can afford it, and it's good for kids, which is why we did it. But with the changes in the laws these days, it absolutely is a huge unsecured risk for men in the USA. Managing risk is part of almost every job. If you are an engineer, you or an investment banker, or a washer of windows on skysc… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 05:07 AM |
| 12 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Yep - so the thing that holds me here is... the kids. The mother's mother is a wacky alcoholic and her father is old and distant (they're divorced). She has 2 siblings, neither of whom are parent material. They both have personal problems. (Brother, younger by 14 years, suffers psychosis (really), and the sister, 2 years older, is a heavy drinker. In other words the entire family has significant mental problems. I don't say that to be critical. It's just true. So... what if ... what if this enti… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:58 AM |
| 7 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I don't know if she is evil. I've thought about it. I think she's sick. Am I nuts for sayiing that? What's the difference between sick and evil? Is Charlie Manson sick or evil? both? What's the difference, where's the line? It's all academic. the result is the same - men are out, women are in, with custody anyway. But she does not have the world handed to her. Her life is not easy now. Also, I think she is tortured inside. We had everything going for us, before. Life is much harder now. I don't … | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:47 AM |
| 4 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)yes, I have thought about it. It may yet be the best thing I can do. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:40 AM |
| 7 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)It's no so much overt suicide that is a worry. The problem is, I don't frigging care about anything now. I used to be a conscientious person, a serious person at work (and I had a successful career, too). Used to have hobbies, saw friends regularly, went out to music. I don't do any of that, anymore. It's not a risk of suicide, so much, but i've pretty much dropped out. It's like a "virtual suicide" if you know what I mean. I don't know if a psychiatrist could help. I've got problems that aren't… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:38 AM |
| 10 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)She came close. It was VERY WEIRD. 4 weeks after she filed papers for divorce, she let me into the house the night before Christmas. I had come to bring gifts for the kids. I put them under the tree. I hadn't spoken to her in a month. We caught up. She found a bottle of wine, I opened it up, we sat on the sofa and chatted. She was concerned about her mother - she was losing her memory and was experiencing the first symptoms of dementia. Misremembering facts, not able to recall names. The warning… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:27 AM |
| 2 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Good to remember, thanks. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:20 AM |
| 9 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)no. I don't know how serious you are., but... I can understand crimes of passion. I can understand a reaction "in the moment". I cannot understand or tolerate premeditated murder. It's just not part of me. Even aside that, she is the mother of the kids. And what would become of the kids if that were to happen? I don't know, but I'm sure it would not be good. I'm here on earth to do something good. I don't know what it is and I'm not sure if I've already accomplished it. Either way, I'm pretty su… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:17 AM |
| 10 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I''ve never considered the killing idea. I've got a foundational belief that it's not ok for me to even consider taking someone else's life. It's just really completely utterly out of the question. Not a solution. I didn't even want to punch him. He's an ass, but he knows that. He doesn't need me to punch him, to understand that. I also don't have revenge fantasies. That guy, and my ex, have enough troubles. (They are not together.) They have their own problems and nothing I could do to them wou… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 04:14 AM |
| 1 | "..most women I know (feminists and others) have been sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.." Um, what?OK. If that is the case, then EVERY PERSON has experienced sexual assault. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:51 AM |
| 1 | "..most women I know (feminists and others) have been sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.." Um, what?I don't see why these both very serious problems must be measured against each other to determine which is worst. I don't either. But I believe the focus on women as victims has caused the perception that (a) men don't get assaulted or (b) if they do, then the assaults are not as serious, or (c) the assaults are overwhelmingly committed by other men, therefore the male victims of these assaults deserved it, or are somehow not sympathetic victims. All of which is poppycock. we all have problems p… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:39 AM |
| 5 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)I'm glad for you, that your Dad did. For myself, I'm not so sure. But anyway that's not the point. The point is, that this happens, and is legal, and is perceived to be a "good outcome" by family courts. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:27 AM |
| 8 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Yeah, the guy - I can write him off as an ass. But the ex-wife. . . she went over the line, and then stayed there. Honestly I think my useful life is over. Not being dramatic, I just mean - you are married for 15 years then your wife leaves, convinces the court to prevent you from being with the kids, takes all your belongings. . . I'm exhausted. It's not a matter of "hurt". It's damage. Huge financial loss. bankruptcy. Loss of my kids. I don't know how to recover. There is nothing to recover, r… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:22 AM |
| 19 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)Aha! Well, that is an interesting question. A more appropriate question might be Can I trust anyone again? Remember, it was my best friend and my wife. When the two people I trusted most do that... well, then,... the common thread points to me. So No,... it's not just WOMEN I have trouble trusting. It's people. I have trouble trusting people, but it's not PEOPLE that are the problem. It's me. It's my judgment of people. I'm obviously bad at it. I picked a couple people to really trust, and that … | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:12 AM |
| 12 | I have no problem with her wanting to screw my best friend (AMA)mwah ha ha! | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 03:03 AM |
| 1 | "..most women I know (feminists and others) have been sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.." Um, what?I think it happens to most women at some point yes. And you? have you been assaulted? And let me ask you this - is sexual assault worse or more serious than other kids of assault? Once I went with 3 friends to Montreal, for a sporting event. As Americans, we stuck out obviously. We were not belligerent, but we were obviously not French Canadian. 4 canadian guys came up to us in the street and assaulted us, totally unprovoked. We were not "in the wrong part of town". We had not just come from a s… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 02:28 AM |
| 6 | Feminist: Husbands and fathers are “useless hunks of flesh”Nice sentiment, but the law actualizes her sentiment. The family courts DO tak kids away from fathers, at the mere requst of mothers. That's all it takes. Mother is tired of the father, wants a new sex partner? Just ask the court to dispense with the father, and he will be gone. One allegation of domestic violence is enough to eliminate a father from his kids' lives. An allegation is all it takes. There is no burden of proof. Even if she took the new sex partner BEFORE alleging the DV, it still … | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 01:58 AM |
| 5 | Amy now sees the sex that resulted in her pregnancy as rape.The same revisionism is possible in divorce cases, where a woman can recast an entire 13 year marriage as one long assault. That, of course, justifies loss of custody for the man, and also loss of the house for him, and exorbitant support payments. And the "family courts" look kindly on this sort of re-analysis. It's appropriate, it's legitimate, it's expected. There is no burden of evidence. The fact that the woman stands to gain materially from this sort of re-analysis, is never considered. Th… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 01:52 AM |
| 0 | "..most women I know (feminists and others) have been sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.." Um, what?Is it true, then, that "most women" have been sexually assaulted? | /r/MensRights | 22/12/09 01:42 AM |
| 3 | "..most women I know (feminists and others) have been sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.." Um, what?Keep in mind the score on this comment - I just looked and her statement was at minus-19. The rantings of one bozo does not constitute a conspiracy. But it does show that there are at least some out there who energetically nurture and feed a victim ideology. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/09 04:09 AM |
| 13 | "..most women I know (feminists and others) have been sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.." Um, what?The original comment didn't define assault. When I was younger, I had a job where there happened to be a large number of female execs and managers. All the way up my chain, it was women. I used to get ogled and razzed daily. The giggles and sly glances, the commentary about my clothes. It was uncomfortable. I'm 6' tall, and at that time I was in really good shape. I was bigger than any of them and never in any fear of my physical safety. But it was still very uncomfortable. I know what it's like… | /r/MensRights | 21/12/09 04:05 AM |
| 1 | This is the kind of insane zealotry feminists use to scare the shit out of people.It is a controversial statement without facts. "Insane zealotry" may be going a bit too far. If I Were writing the headling it might be "This is the kind of propaganda gender feminists push, without citation". I'd like to see the statistics, but REAL ones, not cooked stats offered by an advocacy group. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/09 06:32 PM |
| 0 | I have a question for /MR on female privilege in this societyYou seem to take a contentious tone, but your response essentially repeats what I said. The reason I responded is because you originally characterized differences as "privilege" and I don't agree with that characterization. The cultural bias that exists today, described in various posts here, are not the result of privilege. I think of "privilege" as rights earned or awarded explicitly to a group or a person. To me that does not apply to these cases. A more apt word is BIAS. Rights of fathers ar… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/09 06:21 PM |
| 0 | I have a question for /MR on female privilege in this societyI saw that you disagreed, and I took no issue with it. You also made an emphatic statement which I very much think is suspect: "Violence is never acceptable. Never. End of story." I called you on THAT. And if you'd care to respond, I'd be interested. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/09 05:51 PM |
| 0 | I have a question for /MR on female privilege in this societyViolence is never acceptable. Never. End of story. Wrong. There is no justification for your statement. Ever watch a hockey game? At any level? a lacrosse game? Rugby? American football? How about wrestling or boxing? Do you know what "boxing out" is in basketball? None of those things are illegal. People pay a lot of money to watch it, and THEY CHEER. The hundreds of thousands of people that watch these spectacles - Is that some way that society indicates that the action on the field of play is… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/09 05:29 PM |
| 0 | I have a question for /MR on female privilege in this societyLess likely to commit suicide sure feels like evidence of a cultural bias to me. There's no Law making it so, but if the outcome is that men take their own lives significantly more often than women, then it seems reasonable to conclude that the prevailing conditions for men are significantly more stressful than for women, or that men enjoy significantly less support. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/09 05:06 PM |
| 0 | I have a question for /MR on female privilege in this societyYes, ..and... this is true even without an equal amount of money. In the US, all a woman has to do is allege abuse, and she will get gratis legal help, paid for by the taxpayers. One allegation. There is no standard of proof, or even credibility. Try that if you have a penis. And the alleged abuse need not be physical. "Emotional abuse" is enough, meaning... I don't know, shouting in the house, giving ugly looks, or controlling her friendships. That is enough to get free legal help. Remember, th… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/09 05:03 PM |
| 0 | I have a question for /MR on female privilege in this societyResponding to a request to fill in for a secretary, with a class-action lawsuit, seems ridiculously over-blown. Just say no. If they don't accept that, she needs to find another job. Why would she want to work for a company like that. And secondly, Who the hell wants to go to court over that? Who has time for that? (I'll tell you who: lawyers) | /r/MensRights | 20/12/09 04:45 PM |
| 0 | I have a question for /MR on female privilege in this societyLegal rights have been granted to women to match men. True, possibly, in theory. Not true in practice. The crime sentencing statistics show otherwise. The fact that women receive child custody in divorces, overwhelmingly, despite the so-called "equal" rights to mothers and fathers, belie your claim. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/09 04:42 PM |
| 2 | I have a question for /MR on female privilege in this societyI'd gladly be drafted so I can have freedom and autonomy over my body. I presume the irony of that statement is lost on you? | /r/MensRights | 20/12/09 04:41 PM |
| 4 | Hey, MensRights: Bravo.You ever hear that saying - it only takes one bad apple....? I think the other way works too - It only takes a few people, demonstrating respect, setting an example, to inspire a whole bunch more. A few people at a time, make the difference. And that's truly what it's going to take, to make changes for better equity. It's going to take patience and respect and tenacity and truthfulness, and never settling for "that's the way it's always been." | /r/MensRights | 20/12/09 05:58 AM |
| 1 | All it takes is 2 lines from facebook to paint a perfect picture of the modern marriage traditions....yes, and that is what I call a downfall. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/09 02:40 AM |
| 8 | All it takes is 2 lines from facebook to paint a perfect picture of the modern marriage traditions.No, she's not thinking at all. Joking would mean she's one step ahead of everyone. I'll wager she has no idea that her focus on the symbol, rather than what te symbol is meant to honor, is a major error, and will eventually lead to her downfall. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/09 04:23 PM |
| 0 | I have a question for /MR on female privilege in this societydo you believe that women have more power and privilege in this society? YES. In some areas. In particular, in the area that has affected me most strongly and severely recently, in child custody cases in divorce. My ex made all sorts of kooky allegations about me, which would be laughable except for the fact that the court believed her, or at least thought that in her allegations there was enough reason to deny me access to my own children. I, as a male, would never be able to do this to any wom… | /r/MensRights | 19/12/09 03:17 AM |
| -3 | Couples who share the responsibility for paid and unpaid work stay happier.Do NOT get married under the proviso that the spouse will stay home. They stay home all day and think up ways you are not kissing their ass. Pretty soon they have moved on to considering the ways you mistreat them, by working and holding a job and having a group of professional colleagues. Eventually they feel inadequate enough to imagine that you are the source of all their problems. Being or having a kept spouse doesn't end well. What they really need is to get up and go to work every day. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/09 02:17 AM |
| 3 | Tigers 'abusive' wife is moving to Sweden, with the kids? Word is, she wants 205 million.he's in big trouble financially, anyway. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/09 05:36 AM |
| 0 | Tigers 'abusive' wife is moving to Sweden, with the kids? Word is, she wants 205 million.I was going to say, there's no way Tiger will get custody. He travels, what, 200 days a year? More? But that applies to normal men. Even if they don't travel. On the other hand we're talking about a guy who made nearly a billion dollars. The regular lawa of physics don't apply. Not sure what will hapen here, money is the giant variable. If Tiger were a regular guy, making less than $200k per year, then he would lose custody. It would not be abduction. she would only have to say "he raised his vo… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/09 05:36 AM |
| 1 | A feminist asks for your help.interesting. The focus on individual, as opposed to group rights, is important. The balance between individual rights and civil society a timeless issue. But I do have something to add. For example, we can encourage full contact sports instead of actual violence, Since when is the violence in a full contact sport not "actual" violence? It's violence, it's just somewhat controlled. It operates with certain rules. If you've played american football or rugby or hockey, and have been hit, then you k… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/09 05:11 PM |
| 1 | A feminist asks for your help.What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right? But losing custody of your young children is not a minor loss. It literally is killing me. Really. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/09 04:30 PM |
| 1 | First person story of an abusive boyfriend: a woman relates the story of her realization she needed to leave (+17:57)never occurred to me, but now that you point it out... you're right. | /r/MensRights | 13/12/09 10:38 PM |
| 0 | First person story of an abusive boyfriend: a woman relates the story of her realization she needed to leave (+17:57)If my post was off topic, then this forum is no different than the worst militant feminist forums that dismiss mens rights. With that approach, /r/MensRights is just another echo chamber, a place for closed-minded people to re-inforce suspicions and prejudices, a mirror image of the worst of what we presume to decry when we see it on the other side. With that attitude, it is easy to see that we will fail to make progress. try to push your opinions on us with attempted appeals to emotion. You use… | /r/MensRights | 13/12/09 10:36 PM |
| 3 | Divorced dad spray paints courthouse after being denied visitation rightsThat captures it exactly. How to make an instant deadbeat dad: Take away his kids, the apple of his eye. Take away his house. Impose ridiculous payments he cannot possibly make, unless he himself sacrifices his own standard of living for the woman who divorced him, and now alleges he is abusive. And they wonder why so many fathers are "behind" on payments. Fuck. | /r/MensRights | 13/12/09 12:44 AM |
| 2 | The Myth That Will Not Die - One-in-four women are rapedThanksgiving isn't the place for it. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/09 03:22 PM |
| -1 | It's golf or me: wife tells Golfer Tiger WoodsHe doesn't want custody. He plays golf, he's probably travelling 180 days a year. He enjoys women. Why would he fight for custody? | /r/MensRights | 11/12/09 03:13 PM |
| 2 | What does "being a man" mean to you?I did enjoy that, thanks. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/09 03:10 PM |
| 1 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?I guess that might be a better way to phrase it. Realistic. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/09 03:09 PM |
| 2 | First person story of an abusive boyfriend: a woman relates the story of her realization she needed to leave (+17:57)Look Krush you seem to be pretty peeved about the whole thing. I was not aware that everyone "knew all about it" or that "I'm not offering anything new." For my part, I didn't know about what abusive relationships were like, until I was accused of being abusive. I had to learn a lot, all at once. I don't imagine every other person on this forum has been through what I have been through. I also imagine some of the readers on the forum have not taken the time to understand what it's like for some … | /r/MensRights | 11/12/09 04:23 AM |
| 9 | What does "being a man" mean to you?If - Rudyard Kipling. If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you But make allowance for their doubting too, If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated, don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise: If you can dream--and not make dreams your master, If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Tr… | /r/MensRights | 11/12/09 02:38 AM |
| 4 | New Yorker Cleared Of Rape After Nearly Three Years In Prison After Victim Says...She Liedvery interesting | /r/MensRights | 11/12/09 02:24 AM |
| 0 | First person story of an abusive boyfriend: a woman relates the story of her realization she needed to leave (+17:57)It's good to have the understanding of what other people are talking about when they use the term, "abusive relationship." | /r/MensRights | 11/12/09 01:43 AM |
| 0 | First person story of an abusive boyfriend: a woman relates the story of her realization she needed to leave (+17:57)If you're looking for a story of how men get mistreated, this isn't it. This is a story told by a woman, of how she realized, when she was 23 years old, that she needed to leave her abusive boyfriend. There's no unfounded allegations, there are no arrests, there's no violence. It's just one woman relating the story of how it was for her. Listen to this, about 9 minutes long (start at 17:57) to gain a perspective on what it is like, for some women, who live with men who do not take care of them, … | /r/MensRights | 11/12/09 12:43 AM |
| 2 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?What happens if you walk away is, you either pay her 60% of your income, or you go to jail. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/09 02:52 PM |
| 0 | Soul-searching: is there an essentially "male" way of dealing with problems, both emotional and practical, or is this a result of gender roles arbitrarily imposed by custom?I can't find anything to latch onto here. What's the question? Is it "is there a male way of dealing with problems?" or is it "why do I find common ground with men when when I'm closely related to women who have grievances against them?" or.... something else? | /r/MensRights | 10/12/09 01:50 PM |
| 2 | When feminist writers celebrate domestic violence against menit bothers me that people think it's funny to joke about a spouse getting comeuppance for cheating with a club to the head.) What is the appropriate comeuppance? | /r/MensRights | 10/12/09 01:02 AM |
| 3 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?I think it would be fantastic if as a group we collected information about cases where the men did win, cases where the woman won and turned out to be unfit afterwards, No one "wins" in a divorce. It's a zero sum game. The only thing you can hope to get is equity, a fair division of time with the kids, and assets. As soon as the woman alleges abuse, equity is out the door. An allegation is all that is necessary. In some states the burden is on the court to explain if THEY DO NOT order the man in… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/09 12:51 AM |
| 1 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?With no lawyer, why didn't your ex just settle? Why go to trial? | /r/MensRights | 10/12/09 12:46 AM |
| 2 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?I am the perfect counter-example. I refused to throw mud because I didn't believe it was the right thing. I knew it would lead to hurt psyches and broken bank accounts. I figured she would stop eventually. She did - almost. In the end she started again. I lost. Badly. We got the hurt psyches and empty bank accounts, as I predicted. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/09 12:42 AM |
| 6 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?Look at it this way: the penalty for perjury is a night in jail (contempt) and the loss of his trust in you, which you didn't have in the first place. the penalty for being truthful is the loss of your assets, sanity, contact with your children, and any hope of future prosperity. This is exactly right. Except, there is no history of prosecuting perjury in a divorce case. It never happens. Therefore, there is NO legal downside to perjury. If you have no moral problem lying, then it is the proven,… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/09 12:36 AM |
| 2 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?He should transfer ownership of EVERYTHING he owns to a trusted family member RIGHT NOW. That is called fraud, and it's against the law. The court will not look kindly on a spouse trying to hide marital assets. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/09 12:33 AM |
| 3 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?As for /MensRights I would really like to see the pity party end and the effective help beginning I appreciate your input, and I disagree that it is a pity party. I can only share my experience. The ideas you suggest - starting with disproving her allegations - are reasonable. But reason does not rule in the divorce court. I am not saying this to be dramatic. This just is. There is no standard of evidence in a civil trial. The proof or not of the allegations is useless. No one is found guilty, o… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/09 12:31 AM |
| 3 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?If you're serious, Send me a PM and I will get you in contact. he's in Pittsburgh, PA. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/09 06:48 PM |
| 9 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?Second answer: This worked for my brother: he accused her every time she accused him. I talked to him afterwards. He was doing coke, and both he and she drank too much, and some other stuff. All this came out in court. In fact, a wise court could hae said, "you both suck as parents!" In any case, she accused him of being abusive, and so on. He put it all back on her. He asserted to me that she actually did throw plates and dishes in the house. But he accused her in court of much worse. He just a… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/09 04:33 PM |
| 2 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?Funny, but no. Posession won't be enough, and he'd have to live with himself afterwards. Even if she were actually DEALING, she'd only have to promise to give up her career, and then he'd still lose. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/09 04:30 PM |
| 4 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?Stop it. You are offering false hope. It does not matter what happens at the hearing. If the state is involved in an adversarial divorce, and there are allegations of abuse, the man will lose. Period. He can be as calm and cool as he likes. It will be interpreted as psychopathic. ("How can he sit there so calmly? Only a true abuser could sit there like that.") If he is a large man, he will lose. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/09 04:18 PM |
| 5 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?This is all false hope. It doesn't matter. The judge told me my kids still believe in Santa Claus, so of course they are also deceived when they think I did not abuse them. I had a priest, a PhD, a CEO/President of a company, family friends, my sisters, my aunt. Parents of the kids' schoolmates. They all wrote to the court on my behalf. It was all discarded, discounted. It didn't matter. It only prolonged the inevitable. There was not a single adult or child who corroborated her allegations of a… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/09 04:17 PM |
| 14 | How do you counter lies from a soon to be former spouse when it comes to a custody battle?There's no defense. Lying works. Even if it is not simple lying - like if it is honest delusion - it still works. If she is honestly crazy and believes he has threatened to murder someone, she will be more believable. Delusion helps her case. Face facts: He'll lose his kids. The "system" weighs 2 things: is the mother alive, and does she refrain from illegal activity? If she is actively abusing drugs, or if she is bringing a different man home every night and partying in front of the kids, or if… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/09 04:11 PM |
| 10 | British feminists plan a "Don't be a rapist" advertising campaignGreat idea. How many of us would have declined to rape if only we saw an advert on a passing city bus? Why not expand it to other things, too? What an easy way to reduce crime! Just picture it: "Reminder: Don't murder your neighbor" "Reminder: don't lie" "Reminder: don't steal" (This list is starting to look familiar). What's the likelihood that public advertisements will instill a spirit of morality in people? Will that work better than the older institutions we used to rely on, the ones we hav… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/09 07:13 PM |
| 1 | The Affairs of Men: The trouble with sex and marriage.I am saying nothing like what you attribute to me. And I don't appreciate your tactics in completely contriving an argument. Why, if I advise prudence when selecting a spouse, do you suppose I condone unfairness in divorce laws? On what basis would you draw such a conclusion? I advise care and thought in choosing a spouse. How can you possibly disagree with that? It is the responsibility of the government to establish rules .... It is the responsibility of thoughtful people to understand how thi… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/09 09:28 AM |
| 0 | Is Tiger even allowed to talk to the cops?No. The police are interested in determining if the injuries to Tiger are consistent with the car crash. (We already have reports that they are not. There is no blood in the car, and the injuries to his face are scratches.) If the police see him, then they will have to arrest his wife. And there is no upside to that, for Tiger. Inviting the police into your house and your family and your life is not an act of a person in control. It is an act of powerlessness. The state likes to say that they ar… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/09 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Women are still treated as financially dependent on men by laws that haven't been overhauled since 1857. It's unfair all round.Here's an idea - How about ending community property and alimony all together? Both wives and husbands (mostly wives) are moochers/loafers for the precise reason they know they have a worker to leech off of. Ending marital welfare would go a long way in repairing modern marriage. It doesn't worth that way. You seem to have had a particularly bad experience. To call women who stay at home and take care of home and children "moochers" and "loafers" is inaccurate and unfair. In my experience, the h… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/09 06:31 PM |
| 1 | The Affairs of Men: The trouble with sex and marriage.Sorry Mesca, but this is just blaming the victim. There is NO WAY to really tell what your woman is all about and, more importantly, especially as a man, you have NO power to influence her whatsoever in marriage. Nope. I disagree. I is not "blaming the victim". It is calling out a responsibility for people who intend to marry. Be thoughtful. Get your head out of the wedding planning magazines. Spend more time thinking about the commitment you are making to each other, spend less time thinking ab… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/09 03:29 PM |
| 3 | Is Tiger even allowed to talk to the cops?The correct answer in most cases is to NOT talk to the police. About anything. If you need a refresher course, please review the video. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/09 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Is Tiger even allowed to talk to the cops?I doubt it. Of course it's impossible to know, but I don't think it's chivalry. Tiger has some very highly paid advisors, who are paid to be coldly rational. I am sure he is getting input from people who have good perspective, and chivalry is not their top concern. It's more likely his career, his future earning potential, and the kids. The reason he isn't talking is because he's smart, and wants to maintain control of his own life. He doesn't need the police to intervene, and he doesn't need (p… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/09 05:22 AM |
| 4 | Is Tiger even allowed to talk to the cops?Tiger isn't talking because he has smart advisers. If he spoke to the police, and they saw evidence of domestic assault, they would have to arrest his wife immediately. There is no discretion permitted on the part of the police. We've heard that directly from Florida law enforcement people on this board. No discretion. IF the police saw his scratched face, at that point the state would take over their lives, arrest his wife, and his real troubles would start. neither he nor his wife would have a… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/09 05:18 AM |
| 3 | The Affairs of Men: The trouble with sex and marriage.An interesting article, but ... not a very mature or novel viewpoint. Every person who gets married, at some point, comes to the point where they realize that married life is not all wine and roses, whether it's about sex, or something else. And every person makes a decision at that point to stay married or not. To stay true or not. To keep their word or not. Everyone does this. Some people don't do it explicitly or thoughtfully. But everyone makes the decision. The author seems to be ovrly conc… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/09 03:01 AM |
| 8 | The Affairs of Men: The trouble with sex and marriage.At some point you have to decide. You have to be a man, not just physically mature, but emotionally mature and responsible, before you marry. If you aren't sure you can do it, don't get married. Trust me. You'll save yourself a lot of money and heartache later. And there's no shame in not being married. you can be a fulfilled individual, unmarried. You can have a steady girlfriend, or not. You can make your own choices and be happy. you don't need to be married. It's not the only path. If you do… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/09 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Gender Double Standards at Work in Tiger Woods Incidentisn’t it amazing a classic alpha worth $1 billion still cannot keep a woman 100% happy. ? if we believe that he was unfaithful, why should his wife be happy? She has good reason to be unhappy, right? I'm not excusing the violence (if it was her) but ... he's not blameless here, if he's screwing someone else. I don't think Sean Connery had the right idea at all, and I don't think it's even funny. It's about as funny as a "Lynch Obama!" poster. Violence and conflict isn't the answer, and no though… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/09 04:31 PM |
| 5 | We do not need more laws to mediate the relationships between men and women. The State’s role in women’s liberation has reached its limits. Now, just back off, and leave us alone.And female privilege will soon be consigned to the trashcan of history - largely due to the intervention of the state, as ever, regulating for sexual equality. We'll see. I'd like to see equality across all domains. Starting with child custody. I'm not convinced that outcome is assured. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/09 04:03 PM |
| 9 | Women are still treated as financially dependent on men by laws that haven't been overhauled since 1857. It's unfair all round.Links? No, I don't have links. I have the scars on my own back. I have my name in the county sheriff's database. I have the foreclosure on my credit history, the loss of my house. I have my clothing in a trash bag. I have the long-distance relationship with my kids. I have her family that are so embarassed they cannot talk about it. I have her friends who don't understand what the hell happened. I talk to them - her family and friends - more than she does. Yes, it happens. How could it possibly?… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/09 02:06 AM |
| 12 | Women are still treated as financially dependent on men by laws that haven't been overhauled since 1857. It's unfair all round.The reason that men tend to get the short-end is because, on average, they make more money. No. That's not right. It's simplistic, and it's wrong. Making more money is justification for asking men to contribute proportionately more. If the man makes $60k a year, and the woman makes $40k per year, then after the split, assuming all other things are equal, there would be a proportional contribution. The man would have to contribute $10k per year to her. Well, this is also much too simplistic, but … | /r/MensRights | 28/11/09 01:47 AM |
| 2 | Women are still treated as financially dependent on men by laws that haven't been overhauled since 1857. It's unfair all round.WTF indeed. Same thing happens with longer marriages, only instead of televisions and sofas being stolen, it's children. Distasteful to compare children to consumer goods? maybe. But they are treated the same by courts. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/09 12:44 AM |
| 7 | All men contribute to domestic violence "by virtue of being raised a man"It's not simply a matter of belief. The propaganda is a way of controlling people. Once the belief is popularized, then the propagandists can disenfranchise those who are de-humanized. This is standard operating procedure. Not to be too hyperbolic, but this is exactly what Hitler did with the Jews. This is what the US did with slaves, or native Americans. First you spread the propaganda, then you can treat the people as if they were not human - steal from them, take their property, deny their ri… | /r/MensRights | 26/11/09 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Jeffery Leving has received an invitation from Oprah Winfrey to discuss fathers' rights and gender equality for men, on her showIs this sarcasm? He was invited "3x's"? Is that supposed to be three times? and if he was invited three times, why? why didn't he accept the first one? Why did it take 3 invitations? Did he accept the third one? ps: twitter is stupid | /r/MensRights | 22/11/09 11:49 AM |
| 2 | Men's Rights I need your help.In my state parents could go to the family court and ask for assistance. There were volunteer attorneys who could help with things like this. They'd help you prepare your papers, tell you what needed to be filed, and so on. Especially if both parents are willing, it should be pretty easy and straightforward. Gratis. Contact the family court system and inquire if something similar is available in Texas. The other avenue I know of is Catholic Charities. They have free services, including legal hel… | /r/MensRights | 22/11/09 11:24 AM |
| 2 | Report: 20% of Divorced Parents Want to Make Other Parent's Contact with Child 'as Unpleasant as Possible'And 20% more are in denial about the same thing. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/09 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Switzerland's first refuge for beaten husbands and their children is to open next monthI don't share your pessimism. Today, you may be right. There's not widespread support for it in the US today. On the other hand, as I read in Forbes magazine, a California Court of Appeals ruled last year that state-funded domestic violence programs that refuse to provide service to abused men violate constitutional guarantees of equal protection... And in September 2009, in West Virginia, a circuit court judge ruled that the state-funded abuse shelters discriminate against men. Change is happen… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/09 08:45 PM |
| 5 | And that's when feminism becomes nothing more than another form of sexism.two different subreddits? I would not have seen it in the other place. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/09 08:20 PM |
| 6 | And that's when feminism becomes nothing more than another form of sexism.i get tired of seeing man/woman-hating coming out of both sides as if bashing the other gender as a whole, or blaming the rights advocates on the other side as a whole..somehow gets you further as a person, or us as a society. YES YES YES | /r/MensRights | 20/11/09 08:18 PM |
| 6 | Forbes publishes an article about the men's rights movementStarting to see balanced coverage of men's rights advocacy in the Mainstream Media ... this is TERRIFIC ! Steady on. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/09 08:12 PM |
| 3 | Mass. Rep. Alice Peisch 'Knows Better than her District' on Equally Shared ParentingI love to see the persistent attention Fathers & Families is focusing on these issues across the USA. Sacks has just hired a couple fulltime professional lobbyists, which is what it will take I think, in order to move the ball on reform of divorce and custody laws. I'm going to donate and I hope you all will consider it. http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/?page_id=14 (I am in no way affiliated with the organization, but I think they do good work and as a divorced father who lost custody of his ki… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/09 08:10 PM |
| 5 | The Necessity of the Men's Movement: Defeating Modern Feminism One Step at a TimeWe should all strive for this level of clarity, rationality and balance when expressing ourselves. Note that she didn't use the word "feminazi" once, nor did she open any room for doubt about whether she believes rape of women is a real problem. She didn't deny that some men commit criminal attacks, and she didn't make excuses for same. Her position is rational, unemotionally stated, and unassailable. We should all strive for the same everytime we communicate with anyone, formally or informally,… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/09 11:00 AM |
| 1 | The Necessity of the Men's Movement: Defeating Modern Feminism One Step at a TimeIs she religious too? I specifically looked for that and saw no indication. She calls herself "far right wing" - that's about as close as she gets to religion in the description she offers of herself. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/09 10:56 AM |
| 2 | Missouri Girl Allegedly Killed 9 year old 'to Know What It Felt Like' -Nothing to do with men's rights. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/09 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Drink-spiking leading to date-rape is a urban legend. (British Journal of Criminology)Creating the want; profit. ... and maintain control. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/09 06:54 PM |
| 5 | Feministing contributor praises Valerie Solanas - the nutter who shot Andy Worhol and who also wrote the misandrist S.C.U.M manifestoWhy are we paying any attention to that nut? It's a big world. There are a zillion nuts on the internet. Some of them write blogs. Some of them are crazy. Some of them are crazy and write blogs. Let's not freak out about nutty blog writers, and construe this person's opinion with "what women think." | /r/MensRights | 19/11/09 06:08 PM |
| 4 | Drink-spiking leading to date-rape is a urban legend. (British Journal of Criminology)The authors of the study said, in a news article in the Telegraph, that there are reasons the myth persists . Among them: the excuse scenario described by potroast it is a way for women to negotiate how to watch out for each other in an environment where they might well lose control from alcohol consumption. Also, an interesting anecdote from the article: Earlier this year, Australian researchers found that not one of 97 young men and women admitted to hospital over 19 months to two Perth hospit… | /r/MensRights | 18/11/09 08:21 PM |
| 2 | More Fathers Are Getting Custody in Divorce - Motherlode Blog - NYTimes.com...But the tone seems to hint that this is a bad thing, and "discrimination" against working mothers.I love this excerpt: Julie sat helpless as Mark’s lawyer argued that he was the one who arranged the playdates, took the kids to the pediatrician and volunteered at their schools. Affidavits from teachers and neighbors attested to his hands-on involvement in their daily lives. Meanwhile, Julie’s long hours at work meant that people in the community didn’t witness just how much parenting she did out of view. Ok, now switch the names "Julie" and "Mark" and read the paragraph again. This is what ha… | /r/MensRights | 18/11/09 03:15 PM |
| 1 | More Fathers Are Getting Custody in Divorce - Motherlode Blog - NYTimes.com...But the tone seems to hint that this is a bad thing, and "discrimination" against working mothers.I didn't take it that way at all. I read it as an observation of the tradeoffs that working parents make, and an observation to the costs of working outside the home, in the case of a divorce. I think it's terrific that this issue has been raised. It is patently unfair for a parenting arrangement made on the assumption of being married - where one parent stays home and one parent works outside the home - remains locked in, in perpetuity, when one parent decides to leave the marriage. This is exa… | /r/MensRights | 18/11/09 03:11 PM |
| 7 | Drink-spiking leading to date-rape is a urban legend. (British Journal of Criminology)Interesting. The study conducted by the British Journal of Criminology concluded that drug-facilitated sexual assault - DFSA: spiking a woman's drink and then raping her - is not a widespread problem. Women in the UK and US perceive it to be a much larger problem than it is. The authors of the study conclude that the myth persists because it does serve a useful purpose - to remind women to look out for each other and not drink too much, thus losing control. | /r/MensRights | 18/11/09 02:36 PM |
| 1 | MSNBC's Dr. Nancy talks about Breast vs Prostate cancer on Morning Joegreat to hear about it. Post the video when you can find it! | /r/MensRights | 18/11/09 02:00 PM |
| 2 | I think we're starting to look a bit petty.../r/MensRights becomes /r/MensRights(to Complain) ? I can see the desire to have two separate areas, but "Mensrights" doesn't seem like a good place to put all the whining and complaining. | /r/MensRights | 18/11/09 01:42 PM |
| 3 | I think we're starting to look a bit petty...it makes those on the other side look like total idiots. Try it.. Is the goal of "being the bigger person" to make the other side look like total idiots? Really? I've no interest in making anyone look like an idiot. People do not summon their deepest virtues and behave their best after they're made out to look like idiots. And is it really true that we need to think of this as "our side" versus "the other side" ? There is a better way. | /r/MensRights | 18/11/09 10:45 AM |
| 2 | I think we're starting to look a bit petty...How much of a role does the mod have? Can the mod not exercise a bit of censorship here? | /r/MensRights | 18/11/09 10:44 AM |
| 0 | I think we're starting to look a bit petty...ya, maybe it's time to bring something like that back. But /r/MensIssues doesn't seem the right title for a "OMG a woman killed her children" post. Maybe it should be called "/r/WomenBehavingBadly" if that's what you want. Or, call it /r/WhereMenComplain . Sounds like that's what you want to get rid of, from /r/MensRights . I support moving that content out of /r/MensRights, but who will patronize WhereMenComplain ? | /r/MensRights | 18/11/09 10:43 AM |
| 11 | I think we're starting to look a bit petty...The name /r/mensrights doesn't imply that it's a "place to blow off steam," and the description is not that either. The blurb says: For men and supporters of men: discuss the comparative treatment of men and women in the media (news and entertainment) and in the law, especially concerning sexual harassment, sexual assault, domestic violence, and divorce. Diverging viewpoints are welcome. Thought-provoking posts are encouraged. If there's a need for /r/MenBlowOffSteam then make one. Group therapy… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 11:28 PM |
| 5 | Embarrassment for Jessica Valenti as feminist bloggers encourage a boycott of her Feministing websiteFeministing is an embarassment. But I couldn't even understand the post calling for boycott. Whatever. I'm filing this one under: "Various shouting among angry or uptight women." | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Dear sirs, every time you use the word Feminazi you are parroting Rush Limbaugh. Is this an association you intend?yep. And that's the way it goes. And there is no progress or dialogue. I wonder if that happens on /r/mensrights . I don't think it does but ... maybe I am just as blind as the people who write "they don't teach men to not rape." | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Dear sirs, every time you use the word Feminazi you are parroting Rush Limbaugh. Is this an association you intend?A feminist is someone who believes the path to equality lies in advocating for women's rights, as women have historically held an inferior position in society. A lot anger towards feminists seems to be that they "ignore" mens rights in their pursuits, but that only seems understandable as it is a whole system set up to focus sharply on advocating for womens rights and consequently is why a Mens Rights movement is needed. No one that I have spoken to, ever, complains that feminists "ignore" men's… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 04:18 PM |
| 3 | Dear sirs, every time you use the word Feminazi you are parroting Rush Limbaugh. Is this an association you intend?debate by soundbite! | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 04:07 PM |
| 3 | Dear sirs, every time you use the word Feminazi you are parroting Rush Limbaugh. Is this an association you intend?I very much appreciate your perspective on this. I totally agree with you. Yes, I can see how an outsider could take offense, or conclude that /r/MensRights is filled with people who hate women. In support of your point, every once in a while, I look on /r/women, or in other forums focused on women's issues, and I see the analogous dynamic - women characterizing men's rights advocates as "rape deniers" or whatever. Just today I was on /r/women and saw this statement: women are taught to carry th… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 04:07 PM |
| 3 | Dear sirs, every time you use the word Feminazi you are parroting Rush Limbaugh. Is this an association you intend?take a look at the headlines 'round these parts, how many could be construed as having a misogynist or anti-feminist slant? I don't know how many. You have a point: I regularly see posts on /r/mensrights that I think are ...frivolous, whiny, or unhelpful. I vote 'em down. I also see a bunch that are valid, thoughtful and on point. I vote those up. In general though, I disagree that the forum is "drowning in misogyny". There is some. But not drowning. And when it pops up, I see people discouragin… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 03:39 PM |
| 4 | Dear sirs, every time you use the word Feminazi you are parroting Rush Limbaugh. Is this an association you intend?Ok, I see your point.. But using the term "feminazi" isn't going to help calm anyone or encourage anyone to thoughtfully consider the issues. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 03:35 PM |
| 6 | Dear sirs, every time you use the word Feminazi you are parroting Rush Limbaugh. Is this an association you intend?While Mens Rights in general and r/MensRights in particular have many good and important things to say, it is largely drowning in a sea of angry, misinformed misogyny I don't agree with this characterization. There are some who are angry and bitter and misguided, but to characterize this reddit as "drowning in misogyny" is ... flat wrong. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 03:14 PM |
| 2 | Dear sirs, every time you use the word Feminazi you are parroting Rush Limbaugh. Is this an association you intend?what about all of the false use of MRA and what that stands for? or attacking and insulting mens-rights supporters as being sexist when they are not? Are you saying, ... ah... basically.... "they started it" ?? | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Dear sirs, every time you use the word Feminazi you are parroting Rush Limbaugh. Is this an association you intend??? I find it "very reddit" that the guy who wrote the post got downvoted but the canadian girl who concurred got voted up. Anyway I totally agree as well. It's clever, fun to say, and it's a nice catchphrase but ..I also believe introducing derogatory labels is not helpful. It takes the focus away from the issues and turns it into a personal disagreement. It's not conducive to an open discussion. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 03:10 PM |
| 2 | Feministing contributor encourages women to boycott menDoes it ever make sense to read that blog? It's just hype, it's not real, it's not mainstream. Why do we even pay attention? | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 04:15 AM |
| 2 | Feministing contributor encourages women to boycott menI'm completely in favor of the proposal as well. Those who are inclined to take this advice, would be doing a service to all humanity by boycotting men. Everywhere. Constantly. Maybe we can carve out a country for them. Maybe the water-on-the-moon opens some possibilities for a colony there. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 04:14 AM |
| 2 | So it's Sigma Chi's fault that she got too drunk and went to another bar and then went home with some guy? Yet her friends were the ones who noticed she was drunker than usualAn oil derrick on the North Slope? | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 04:11 AM |
| 2 | So it's Sigma Chi's fault that she got too drunk and went to another bar and then went home with some guy? Yet her friends were the ones who noticed she was drunker than usual"drunker than usual" ? When did we arrive at the point where there is a "usual level of drunkenness" for a young woman? Call me old fashioned, but in my opinion it's time for people to take some responsibility. Enjoy a drink, responsibly. Getting drunk, then getting in trouble, and then blaming people who were nearby - how is this a reasonable thing to do? Regardless of the gender of the person. I had a few drinks at the ballgame yesterday, the tailgate party started before noon. And I had a dri… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/09 04:10 AM |
| 4 | Feminist refers to the men's rights movement as the "embittered asshole lobby"I completely agree. There's no need for the childish name-calling. It lowers the level of dialogue and takes the focus off the issues. IT sounds cute and it might rally the true believers but it doesn't do anything to persuade anyone else. ... which is what the goal ought to be, I think: Persuading people that some changes are due. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/09 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Feminist refers to the men's rights movement as the "embittered asshole lobby"yeah, bitterness can drive a person to take action, but it doesn't have to be bitterness. And the bitterness doesn't have to stay. Shit happens, I don't like it, so I try to do something about it. Does that make me bitter? | /r/MensRights | 16/11/09 07:32 PM |
| 2 | Feminist refers to the men's rights movement as the "embittered asshole lobby""When a woman is wronged, she is a weak and innocent victim that needs help, support and to be made a martyr of; when a man is wronged he's an embittered asshole ... You're exactly right. This attitude will eventually collapse on itself. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/09 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Men's Health Care need funding too (Letters to the Editor)It's great to see this letter posted on the website of the Dallas Morning News. Good response from readers on that site, too!, even though some of them, like the one you cited, deny the facts. That's ok. This is what it will take - being consistent about the issues, factual, straighforward, high-road. People still react negatively. That's ok. It'll take time. The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/09 07:27 PM |
| 3 | My school is having a "Women's First Aid Course". What gives?Obviously it is because only wymyn are worthy of first aid. And only wymyn can be entrusted with delivering it. Soon the "for women" will be dropped from the description - it will be patently obvious. It will be like having a sign at a barbershop "for people". It's obvious. Soon, things like human rights, university courses, financial aid from the government, .... all these will only be for wymyn, but we won't say it that way. (eye roll) | /r/MensRights | 16/11/09 07:18 PM |
| 1 | I'm tired of feminists trying to convince everyone that Feminism is the same as Gender Equity.Ahh, very good context. The question still remains, why should the YMCA and YWCA be structured differently with regard to being open to the "other" gender? I'm not even sure that is the case - it was claimed by the OP that the YMCA will welcome women, but the YWCA will not welcome men, but I don't know if that claim is true. Also not sure if it is a broad organizational thing or if it is done on a case-by-case basis. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/09 07:15 PM |
| 1 | I'm tired of feminists trying to convince everyone that Feminism is the same as Gender Equity.oh, I didn't realize the poker game was a public thing; I thought he was talking about a private game. Thanks for making that clear to me. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/09 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Two men were following him. He turned and asked "Why are you following me?" while holding a knife at his side, 20 feet away. Sentenced: Guilty of criminal threatening with a dangerous weapon.it's true, the hearings appear to be for theater purposes only. | /r/MensRights | 14/11/09 09:59 PM |
| 2 | Two men were following him. He turned and asked "Why are you following me?" while holding a knife at his side, 20 feet away. Sentenced: Guilty of criminal threatening with a dangerous weapon.interesting - they are now holding hearings regarding the police response to the crowds around the G-20 event in Pittsburgh in September. The testimony of the people I have seen shows young people - students at Univ of Pittsburgh I'd guess - say they asked the police in the riot line which way to go, and were given no direction. If you remember the students were encircled with military-type maneuvers by the police. Give people authority without oversight and it will be abused. | /r/MensRights | 14/11/09 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Two men were following him. He turned and asked "Why are you following me?" while holding a knife at his side, 20 feet away. Sentenced: Guilty of criminal threatening with a dangerous weapon.True, but .. the article states that they were, in fact following him. | /r/MensRights | 14/11/09 12:58 PM |
| -1 | Castrol - Think With Your Dipstick - Hilarious ad where men get whipped, recoil in painIt shows that it's ok to whip men. If it were a woman, there'd be an outcry. Listen, I never figured to ever cry "oppression!" about the "plight" of men. But the fact is that men get beat up, and we don't see it. We accept it, and it's ok. I don't really care if some comical Bugs Bunny violence is portrayed on TV. But, if we are going to bbe hyper-sensitive about violence with respect to women, we ought to apply the same standard to men. If it is not ok to ever hit a woman, the same should be tr… | /r/MensRights | 14/11/09 10:43 AM |
| 6 | Apparently, this reddit community is full of "idiot misogynist trolls spouting off under the guise of a 'men's rights' forum"This is what I find shocking: One commenter to the Radical profeminist blog, under the name of "V", wrote: Since all men are guilty it is open season! You need not worry about that silly concept known as an "innocent man" because all men are guilty and deserve to be attacked for their past history... But a lot of women can't summon this level of contempt or hatred, and that's a shame." The Hermes Journeys blog (linked by this reddit post) criticizes those remarks: For me, feminism is about being… | /r/MensRights | 14/11/09 06:26 AM |
| -2 | Castrol - Think With Your Dipstick - Hilarious ad where men get whipped, recoil in painWhat can you to today? communicate to Castrol that this ad campaign is completely inappropriate. You can contact BP Lubricants (Castrol) in the US at 1-800-462-0835. Couldn't find an email address, but there's an online Contact Castrol form Anyone can send this message via their online form: Your "Think with your Dipstick" ad campaign is completely inappropriate and unacceptable. I will not buy any BP products, and I will advise all of my family, friends and associates to do the same, for as lon… | /r/MensRights | 14/11/09 05:59 AM |
| 5 | Two men were following him. He turned and asked "Why are you following me?" while holding a knife at his side, 20 feet away. Sentenced: Guilty of criminal threatening with a dangerous weapon.This is a fine example of the criminalization of men. Here's a guy who knew he was being followed. He feared for his safety. He turned and asked why the people following him were doing so, while holding the 2-inch folding pocket knife at his side, and standing 20 feet away. He was found guilty of "criminal threatening with a dangerous weapon." This is nuts. (cross-posted from /r/Libertarian) | /r/MensRights | 13/11/09 08:30 PM |
| 1 | How do I introduce my open-minded, self-proclaimed-feminist girlfriend to the Men's Rights movement?Yep - you got a wrong number with that woman. This will not end well for you. Find a woman that comes from a family, where the mother held a position of respect (whether she worked outside the home or not) and the father held a position of respect (ditto). That will solve many problems. I married a child of divorce, and when crunch time came, she lashed out at me, signed up to the "men are violent thugs" belief system, and used that as an excuse for any and every attack on me. It came out of the… | /r/MensRights | 13/11/09 08:11 PM |
| 3 | I'm tired of feminists trying to convince everyone that Feminism is the same as Gender Equity.I don't really have a problem with the YWCA / YMCA thing, although I agree that it is illogical. The way I figure, if it's exclusionary, then it's no good. suppose a town with a YWCA and no YMCA. Then you might have an argument to admit men to the YWCA. I suppose that is why women are included in the YMCA - because they are more common. Just my perception. Not sure if accurate. On the other hand that sort of destroys the very foundation of the YMCA. If it is not about men, then why not YPCA. (Yo… | /r/MensRights | 13/11/09 08:04 PM |
| 1 | I'm tired of feminists trying to convince everyone that Feminism is the same as Gender Equity.yeah, I see what you're saying. on the other hand, - if a group of people don't want you in their poker game, stay out. Most people won't agree that a male victim of statuatory rape should be responsible for child support. I see your point, though. Things need to change. And they will, in time. Most people I know, are reasonable. | /r/MensRights | 13/11/09 05:15 AM |
| 6 | The Shameless Bigotry at /r/womenAre they? is what you say really true? Is there a law somewhere that says a reddit moderator cannot ban anyone he or she desires? I'd be surprised. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/09 11:09 AM |
| 4 | The Shameless Bigotry at /r/womenyou didn't post a link to the comments or the discussion. anyway, reddits are like little fiefdoms. The mods can do what they want. /r/women is no different than any other subreddit. There are a ton of little napoleons out there. I'd consider it a challenge. The internet is just one variation on human discourse. here, you see people behave with fewer restraints than in a face-to-face setting. had you made the remarks you made to this person at a cocktail party, would she have turned and walked a… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/09 10:38 AM |
| 3 | Family Member believes in gender equality laws that favour women - help wanted!I disagree with the premise. It's attitudes like these that get us into trouble. "Like most men, he beats his kids." | /r/MensRights | 12/11/09 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Family Member believes in gender equality laws that favour women - help wanted!Just tell her that .... yes, and do it calmly. People don't realize what they've bought into. Then when you raised doubts, they defend their positions, even if those positions were not hard won. Calm presentation of the argument will win. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/09 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Family Member believes in gender equality laws that favour women - help wanted!that kind of attitude will get the entire group, nowhere. We have to try. We cannot stop presenting rational positions, calmly. Even if the person to which it's directed is unconvinced, other people will read and make their own opinions. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/09 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Family Member believes in gender equality laws that favour women - help wanted!if you believe in reason, you can. We all make decisions and fashion opinions based on limited data. When more data comes along, we reconsider. Look at fast food. When people are young, they love McDonald's food. then they get a little more information and maybe change their minds a bit, eh? Or, Look at me: I never considered that men were being disfavored, but looking at real data convinced me otherwise. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/09 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Family Member believes in gender equality laws that favour women - help wanted!Equality means... woemn need to be favored. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/09 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Family Member believes in gender equality laws that favour women - help wanted!I don't think its so simple. She's saying in this particular case she thinks it's ok. I don't think you can conclude that she, or even he, has a broad view of the gender disparities,such as they are, in various domains. It is easier to wave away an injustice when it's an isolated case. "Oh, well, it's been the other way for a long time..' that response works well when the problem is limited, not systemic. If you first show that the problem is systemic and growing, it is no longer rational to wav… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/09 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.Impressive. I had no idea reddit had so much reach. And how did they find it? | /r/MensRights | 11/11/09 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.Fact Sheet on Prostate Cancer from US NCI (cites $296m in NCI funding for prostate cancer in 2007, declining ) Similar fact sheet from US NCI on Breast Cancer (cites $572m in funding for breast cancer in 2007, increasing) The federal dollars awarded through NCI are only one part of the story. The Susan Komen foundation skews things considerably. Also, the NCI figures don't count Dept of Defense spending (why is the DoD spending money on cancer research instead of letting NIH do it? I don't know)… | /r/MensRights | 11/11/09 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.ya kinda do, if it gets you. | /r/MensRights | 10/11/09 12:22 PM |
| 2 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.Colon cancer is a better argument for de-politicizing federal cancer research budgets, but it doesn't make the point about gender bias in the same way as the stats on prostate cancer do. | /r/MensRights | 10/11/09 12:22 PM |
| 1 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.Doctors look at patients as if they were meat. Being a medical care consumer can be very dehumanizing. You lose your physical privacy, exposing yourself to strangers. It stinks to be sick. | /r/MensRights | 10/11/09 12:20 PM |
| 2 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.Keep writing letters, idiots. What makes you so angry? | /r/MensRights | 10/11/09 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Female Misogynist: How feminism and matriarchy are destroying civilization.Interesting. I never read the book thought I had intended to. The abortion theory has been advanced elsewhere, too, well prior to Freakonomics. Bottom line is the post was a rant, but even so it offers some interesting insight into how people feel. | /r/MensRights | 10/11/09 03:34 AM |
| 6 | Feministing link to the Double X article and complain that "Men's rights groups just won't go away"Doesn't it stink that Men won't stop demanding their rights? I think it's troubling to see people label Men's Rights groups as "frighteningly effective" as if men demanding the elimination of bias in the judicial system is "frightening". I guess if you are "afraid" of equality and fairness, then... yes, Frightening. Some say "men’s rights groups use the same scare tactics as abusers": discredit the accusers, minimize. The irony here is so ridiculous a 10th grade high school composition teacher w… | /r/MensRights | 10/11/09 03:27 AM |
| 3 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.I wish you good luck with your cynicism. It seems to be coming along nicely. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 11:54 PM |
| 4 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.I'm not in favor of gender war. I'm in favor of eliminating gender bias, where I find it. You wanna call that a war? Your choice. If you suggest that my motives are "awkward" or "aggressive", or misplaced, or less than respectable, I disagree with you. What is aggressive and unacceptable is when a woman can point to a man, claim to be afraid, and take away the man's children, for life. That is a crime. That is gender bias. And it is ubiquitous. Cancer funding by the federal government is just on… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 11:46 PM |
| 9 | Female Misogynist: How feminism and matriarchy are destroying civilization.I agree that the linked article is fueled by anecdote and opinion. On the other hand it was entertaining and enlightening. To pick it apart would take a big effort. But just a few points - Her assertion that women run the schools, and are therefore to blame for the ills in the school system. I don't subscribe to the idea that because women might make up the majority of primary school teachers, that they "run the place." Slaves made up the majority of cotton pickers in the 1840's, but they didn't… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.Where were you before, when the syntax was attacking me? | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 11:11 PM |
| 2 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.very mysterious! part of the problem but after bigger game. I agree I'd rather talk about boobies than man ass, but that particular bias is not a good excuse to under-fund prostate cancer research and spend more money saving women than men. The even deeper irony is that black men, who make up most of the NFL, are struck with prostate cancer at a rate twice that of all men, and die at a rate twice that of all men. (and also, at twice the rate of breast cancer in all women, and twice the mortality… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 10:16 PM |
| 3 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.I love ass, just not hairy man ass. But seriously, I think you make a valid point. That's one of the key things with women and breast cancer, too - many women still don't like to get annual examinations. I suppose for the same reasons guys don't go to the doctor. a man surly won't want to stand up in front of a crowd to rally them about his ass problem. Imagine the US Monday Night Football telecast where the starting QB is interviewed and says "We're out here calling attention to the problem of … | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 10:12 PM |
| 4 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.US NCI says ... you are incorrect. US NCI says prostate and breast cancers have ~equal incidence and mortality, your prior points notwithstanding. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.regarding earlier in life - that is a very worthwhile point. Regarding malignancy - bottom line is people contract prostate cancer at rates equal to breast cancer, and die at equal rates. I don't understand how malignancy or rates of metastazation enters into it. Red herrings. Breast cancer may be "worse" if we believe the young are more valuable than the old. That is an error of the times as well, though. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 09:12 PM |
| 6 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.??? gotta be kidding. Because a man's ass is hairy, we're gonna let men die? You're part of the problem. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 09:11 PM |
| 3 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.very true! In your words I see the beginning of a very funny TV spot. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 09:10 PM |
| 2 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.Thanks, I have a bouncy keyboard. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 09:08 PM |
| 2 | Sex attacks by women on UK children soarswomen are more likely to abuse their kids: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm06/chapter5.htm | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 02:38 PM |
| 12 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.What else can you do today? Find the online-submission form for a letter to the editor of your local dead-tree publication. Submit this letter to them: Editors: The concern shown by the NFL during the "Breast Cancer Awareness month" in October was admirable. But did you know that incidence of prostate cancer, which of course affects men more often than women, is equal to incidence of breast cancer? And mortality is approximately equivalent. These data come from the US National Cancer Institute. … | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Claims of sex abuse by women grow: "here is a reluctance or unwillingness on the part of professionals to acknowledge or identify sexual abuse by females" -BBCWhat can you do Today? Find the "web form" for submissions of letters to the editor to your favorite local newspaper or other dead-tree publication. Send the editor a letter referencing this fact - that in the UK, there is a growing recognition that women are abusers, and incidence of woman-on-child sexual attacks are underreported. Do it. Take 7 minutes and do that. If everyone takes that time to make a statement beyond our little circle of concern, and if we do that every week, eventually we w… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 02:22 PM |
| 15 | Cancer of the Prostate vs Breast - Incidence rate is higher, and mortality is comparable, when comparing Prostate to Breast cancer. Yet funding is totally skewed.Some additional sources: US National Cancer Institute Prostate Cancer facts - fact sheet that shows incidence and mortality rates of Prostate cancer from 2002-2006. Fact Sheet on Prostate Cancer from US NCI Similar fact sheet from US NCI on Breast Cancer The data clearly show that incidence is nearly equal, and mortality is nearly equal, yet - you don't see commercials on TV talking about protecting men's prostates. You don't see NFL players prancing around in special colored shoes to show that … | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Claims of sex abuse by women grow: "here is a reluctance or unwillingness on the part of professionals to acknowledge or identify sexual abuse by females" -BBCI appreciate the fact that it is two women who are quoted in the article, asserting that #1, the incidence of female attackers is understated, and #2, that there is clear bias among the professionals in the field who are expected to deal with these reports. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 01:38 PM |
| 3 | Claims of sex abuse by women grow: "here is a reluctance or unwillingness on the part of professionals to acknowledge or identify sexual abuse by females" -BBCYou are under-stating it. 25% of all calls where the gender of the alleged attacker is identifiable, involve women. about 75% of those reports where the gender of the alleged attacker is identifiable, involves men. AND, the experts suspect the 25% number under-states the actuality. The 13% number is sort of meaningless - you've taken the numerator from a specific case (and the number of reports where the gender is identifiable, and where the gender is female) and used the denominator from the ge… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 01:27 PM |
| 8 | Claims of sex abuse by women grow: "here is a reluctance or unwillingness on the part of professionals to acknowledge or identify sexual abuse by females" -BBCJust for clarification - The reports ARE on the rise. The possibility raised in the article is that the incidents of attacks is not on the rise, it's just being more accurately reported. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 01:23 PM |
| 7 | Claims of sex abuse by women grow: "here is a reluctance or unwillingness on the part of professionals to acknowledge or identify sexual abuse by females" -BBCThis is amazing. One small step. The truth will emerge, eventually. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 06:01 AM |
| 5 | Sex attacks by women on UK children soarsAnd also, don't forget the other article that went into some more detail, and specifically stated, shockingly... there is a reluctance or unwillingness on the part of professionals to acknowledge or identify sexual abuse by females, the charity suggested. And i mean that. That is shocking. This is a case of "burying the lede". It's not that reports of sex attacks by women went up. That may be true but it's not the big story. The big story is that professionals are biased. They're putting their t… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 05:59 AM |
| 3 | Sex attacks by women on UK children soarsCareful! Headlines can distort facts. According to the article, kids are still more than twice as likely to be sexually abused by their father, as their mother. The story also says, in 25% of sexual abuse calls in which the attacker's gender can be identified, the attacker is a woman. Presumably, that means in about 75% of cases, the attacker is a man. So we conclude that sexual abuse by women is not a myth. But still, men are much more likely to be the attackers in these cases. Keep it straight… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 05:35 AM |
| 1 | woman admits to filing false domestic violence claimyeah, that's the idea. sort of the converse, though. With Shroedinger, you don't know if the cat is dead or alive til you look. With DV allegations, you know the guy is guilty and you don't have to look. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 05:11 AM |
| 2 | woman admits to filing false domestic violence claimI want to also point out that this woman looks perfectly normal. She looks like a normal person, a nice person. She probably IS a nice person. But the fact is that "nice people" sometimes do bad things. Sometimes your next-door neighbor who appears to be so nice, is really lying when she swears, under oath, that her husband hit her. I'm not trying to throw suspiscion on "everyone". That's not what my comment is about. My point is that some women, even respectable women, people who are normally p… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/09 02:10 AM |
| 16 | woman admits to filing false domestic violence claimHell hath no fury... I can empathize with the woman. I don't condone her actions, but I can empathize. If he's an unfaithful jerk, I can understand that she's not happy about it. The problem is, her lies are accepted unquestioningly by the police. I honestly don't have a ton of blame for her. People do odd things when they're under stress. They lash out, they lie, whatever. But, the government, the system - the people we rely on to be un-emotional and rational and impartial in these situations -… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 03:39 PM |
| 1 | "The county’s domestic violence counselor said, categorically, that in all her experience I was one of the only women she’d interviewed whom she was certain had not been abused. " hubby still gets protective order.yeah, I'm with you on that. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 03:28 PM |
| 6 | "The county’s domestic violence counselor said, categorically, that in all her experience I was one of the only women she’d interviewed whom she was certain had not been abused. " hubby still gets protective order.Why is the Duluth "power and control wheel" sexist? is it that the "power and control wheel" always uses feminine pronouns for the victim, and masculine for the abuser? "Won't let her have her own money" and "prevent her from seeing her friends" - that sort of thing ? is that what you mean? It's funny. As you can imagine, once accused of DV, I saw that wheel in the offices of several court-mandated counselors, and I never picked up on the gender issues. Just the other day I saw it, and noticed t… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Dear Reddit, I present to you the Neo-Pussywhip - "...he keeps begging for forgiveness"I agree but I don't call it that. I don't think "pussywhip" is the right term. He's not being an independent person. It has nothing to do with pussy and everything to do with having personal integrity. Not that I think "being an independent person" means to go out and get drunk. But if he has things he likes to do, he should do them. And if she doesn't like him to do those things, they should talk about it, and resolve it some way. She can grin and bear it, or he can stop, or they can split. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 12:21 PM |
| 1 | "Men's Rights" Groups Say Feminist Society Oppresses MenYou mentioned progress in Austrailia. But they are talking about rolling back the shared parenting laws they had previously passed. Men's rights groups are not happy. It sounds like the opposite of progress to me. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 12:17 PM |
| 2 | "The county’s domestic violence counselor said, categorically, that in all her experience I was one of the only women she’d interviewed whom she was certain had not been abused. " hubby still gets protective order.Actually, SHE got the protective order. The hubby didn't get anything. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 05:40 AM |
| 5 | "The county’s domestic violence counselor said, categorically, that in all her experience I was one of the only women she’d interviewed whom she was certain had not been abused. " hubby still gets protective order.Scary. ok, so now, couple the culture of DV victimhood which is now deeply embedded in the state of Washington, with a wife who is pissed off. Do you thnk the man has any hope? No, I am not talking about a case where the man has pushed down the womman, or has beat her. But the woman is pissed, like long-term mid-life-crisis pissed. She's off fucking another man, her husband's good friend in fact, and sometimes in the house with the kids present. But that's irrelevant. The only relevant fact is s… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 05:28 AM |
| 2 | Dear Reddit, I present to you the Neo-Pussywhip - "...he keeps begging for forgiveness"Exactly - we have a debate of extremism. We learn at the knee of TV - how to speak irrationally, how to yell and not listen, how to dehumanize the person who disagrees with you, so as to more easily dismiss them. Some of the people talking about men's rights advocacy compared it to abuse "they use the tactics of an abuser - denying the fact that abuse has occurred." Those are the tactics of a witchhunt. If someone accuses you of abuse, and you concede, you are an abuser. If you deny it, you are … | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 05:12 AM |
| 3 | Rhianna wants to “shed light on the reality of domestic violence.” (re Chris Brown). Will she discuss her own violent attacks?ok, so what does a proper man do in that situation? Pull over. Stop the car. Gain control. If she won't stop beating him, he walks away. In no case does he need to beat her. No person who respects human rights is sympathetic to Chris Brown's reaction. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 04:44 AM |
| 3 | Rhianna wants to “shed light on the reality of domestic violence.” (re Chris Brown). Will she discuss her own violent attacks?Of course. But my "should have" was in response to your bringing up what Rihanna did to him. Whatever it was, there is no justification for what he did to her (assuming the photos weren't faked), unless she was threatening him with mortal danger - as with a gun. It doesn't matter if she verbally abused him or slapped him previously. honestly I don't know what specifically you were talking about, because I haven't read the aticles. If she did something terrible, he should have walked away. The sa… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 04:33 AM |
| 1 | "Men's Rights" Groups Say Feminist Society Oppresses MenI agree. In general neither are "oppressed." | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 04:21 AM |
| 3 | Why Women Should Be Concerned About Men’s Rights GroupsAnybody else notice that the recent upsurge of these anti-MR articles/blogs all seem to stem off of one ignorant and biased article? I've said that time and again. One false, radical, or crazy article penned by a "men's rights activist" can do more damage than can be repaired by 10 honorable, honest, thoughtful advocates. We must not encourage lazy thought, irrationality, gender bias, or emotional appeals within MRA. Men's Rights are human rights, just like women's rights. We need to present imp… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 04:20 AM |
| 5 | Dear Reddit, I present to you the Neo-Pussywhip - "...he keeps begging for forgiveness"Most of the world agrees with her. The problem is the debate, on the feminists side and on the MRA side, can be dominated by loudmouths who do not reflect the beliefs of the community. For example, when men demand fairness in custody disputes, some women turn it around and equate that to excusing domestic violence, even though most men do not condone anything like that. Women advocate protection for those who are battered, and men believe that is an attack on men as a group. It's not. There are … | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 04:08 AM |
| 2 | women's soccer rumblego away. you are neither helpful in advancing the purpose of men's rights, nor entertaining. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 03:53 AM |
| 2 | women's soccer rumbleI don't see how this is a men's rights issue. It's about #15 on the red team behavng very badly. Is the goal to confront the idea that "only men can act unfairly"? are we not beyond that? Really? | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Fathers Gain Respect From Experts (and Mothers)Lesbian? ah, More likely, the mother doesn't want her daughter to get dirty or hurt. I've seen mothers than won't let their kids play, because they don't want the nice clothes from Gymboree to get dirty. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 03:48 AM |
| 1 | Conn Supreme Court recognizes due process rights for accused in DV casesGood to see, but this doesn't go nearly far enough. Connecticut proposes to require a "preponderance of the evidence" as is common in civil trials. I don't believe that is enough. That is not a strong enough basis on which to act, when taking a man's children away from him. The judges in these cases have too much leeway. There ought to be a requirement of proof. Sad, but true. I hate to say it, because no one wants to be required to present a photograph of a bruised 6 year old kid - it means tha… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 03:41 AM |
| 3 | Rhianna wants to “shed light on the reality of domestic violence.” (re Chris Brown). Will she discuss her own violent attacks?There's no defending someone like Chris Brown. This has no place on a Men's rights forum. Men do not have the right to beat women. I don't care what she did to him. He should have walked away, run away, stayed away. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 03:35 AM |
| 2 | Dear r/MensRights, is there a Men's Rights manifesto? It seems the cause is getting attention faster than supporters, and is already getting wrongly branded as fringe and extremist.I'm sorry, I was being dense. You make a good point. What I was trying to say was that one individual's act can do more damage than can be corrected by the good efforts of 10. As you point out, it was not written that way at all... | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 02:47 AM |
| 1 | "Men's Rights" Groups Say Feminist Society Oppresses MenYou make some good points. I'm not in favor of requiring "consent" to divorce but rather reducing the adversarial approach which is inevitable today. I am against the blanket judgments, the 22% custody for men, the DV-allegation-means-you-are-locked-away-from-your-property. These are basic civil rights being waved away, in the idea that it is "protecting" women. It's a nutty time. It will take several more generations at least, to figure this out. About marriage as welfare, it would seem we'd ne… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 02:42 AM |
| 1 | "Men's Rights" Groups Say Feminist Society Oppresses MenWell, sure, not every guy gets to drive a porsche. But there are lots of things men can do - the possibilities are pretty wide open, at least in the western world. I don't know about money falling out of your ass, but whatever... The point is men have it pretty good. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 02:25 AM |
| 1 | "Men's Rights" Groups Say Feminist Society Oppresses MenI think you're right - the MRA/feminist groups seem to attract nutjobs. Of course there are plenty of people in each group that have a clear understanding, and have honorable intentions. Then there are some who are loud, and ticked off, and less than honorable. It's almost as if we, western culture, have completely surrendered the hope of having a rational, honest disagreement. We somehow believe that disagreement must necessarily become venomous and vitriolic. And anyone who disagrees with me o… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/09 02:24 AM |
| 1 | "Men's Rights" Groups Say Feminist Society Oppresses MenInteresting. forcing people to stay in their marriages by applying mutual consent to divorces is draconian to say the least to any freedom-loving person. I do not advocate forcing anyone to stay in a marriage. What I am suggesting is to eliminate the adversarial pitfall of divorce. It only takes one party to decide to descend into acrimony, and it's over. The attorneys have no interest in preventing this. Walking down the street - if someone challenges me to a fight, I can walk away. But in a di… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/09 12:14 PM |
| 0 | Dear r/MensRights, is there a Men's Rights manifesto? It seems the cause is getting attention faster than supporters, and is already getting wrongly branded as fringe and extremist.ok, so what's "kind of the pint"? Calling women bitches is the point? | /r/MensRights | 07/11/09 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Dear r/MensRights, is there a Men's Rights manifesto? It seems the cause is getting attention faster than supporters, and is already getting wrongly branded as fringe and extremist.You must be talking about tomek77 . . . | /r/MensRights | 07/11/09 12:05 PM |
| 1 | The Misguided Message Of Men's Rights GroupsI loved this article. I think it correctly characterizes some real problems in "the men's rights" movement, such as it is. standing for men's rights - for example equity in custody arrangements - is tantamount to "belittling domestic violence against women [sic]" This is a real issue. The fact is that women get beat up - physically, emotionally, and financially - by the very people they depend on for physical, financial and emotional support. Domestic partner abuse is real, and women suffer for … | /r/MensRights | 06/11/09 08:37 AM |
| 2 | Restraining Order Abuse - TROs are granted without evidence, and permanently affect the legal rights of the restrained partyhttp://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=4345 | /r/MensRights | 06/11/09 08:23 AM |
| 7 | Julian Real (male feminist nutjob) responds to the Men's Rights Reddit communityDon't feed the trolls! | /r/MensRights | 06/11/09 07:55 AM |
| 16 | "Men's Rights" Groups Say Feminist Society Oppresses MenEveryone should read that link and understand how people outside the MRA "community" such as it is, views MRA people. if I could summarize MRA people are cranks. MRA people make some valid points, but take them too far I don't believe that many of the issues they raise are real (eg, custody bias) The way to "win" - and by that I mean advance the cause of equity and justice in gender issues generally - is to address these concerns, which I think are valid. don't be a crank. When you communicate, … | /r/MensRights | 06/11/09 07:42 AM |
| 6 | "Men's Rights" Groups Say Feminist Society Oppresses MenI think the comments on the article are Very very enlightening. On balance they show a strong resistance to the MRA effort. On the other hand I think it is a sign of good progress that the term MRA is appearing in other places. (Or is this a case of that phenomenon - there's a name for it that escapes me now - where you see a thing once, and then you start to notice it much mroe often. it doesn't mean that the thing is actually appearing more often, it is just that you notice it more often. but … | /r/MensRights | 06/11/09 07:13 AM |
| 0 | Dear r/MensRights, is there a Men's Rights manifesto? It seems the cause is getting attention faster than supporters, and is already getting wrongly branded as fringe and extremist.thatthan I meant to say ...is more damaging than... | /r/MensRights | 06/11/09 06:42 AM |
| 2 | Dear r/MensRights, is there a Men's Rights manifesto? It seems the cause is getting attention faster than supporters, and is already getting wrongly branded as fringe and extremist.I think it's an interesting question. Seems like a coordinated effort - a single 5 point "platform" or similar - would have more of an impact, than a bunch fragmented complaints and related perspectives. (like "men get shafted!") At the same time, I think each person should be thoughtful enough to have his own more-or-less formal if unwritten "manifesto", ready for deployment at any cocktail party. What is it you really believe, and why? What do you personally think are the top issues facing men… | /r/MensRights | 06/11/09 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Dear r/MensRights, is there a Men's Rights manifesto? It seems the cause is getting attention faster than supporters, and is already getting wrongly branded as fringe and extremist.yes and at the same time we need to remember that the scale is still tilted way in favor of men, in most of the world. You don't see men walking around in burqas. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/09 06:17 AM |
| 2 | Dear r/MensRights, is there a Men's Rights manifesto? It seems the cause is getting attention faster than supporters, and is already getting wrongly branded as fringe and extremist.those man-hating cunts ... expect more of it, as we move into the mainstream... The simple act of calling people cunts, off-hand, is one of the reasons MRA as a movement will continue to struggle for legitimacy. There is too much ad hominem gender-war language in the informal dialogue. We need to stick to the issues, the facts. It's reasonable to say we disagree with their philosophy. It's reasonable to say why. It's provocative to use the term "man hating", and I understand provocation may be t… | /r/MensRights | 06/11/09 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Dear r/MensRights, is there a Men's Rights manifesto? It seems the cause is getting attention faster than supporters, and is already getting wrongly branded as fringe and extremist.YES. I think the rare occasion where you hear a self-identified MRA man say "women are all bitches" or some other misogynist shit, is more damaging than 10 men rationally articulating what they see as the clear problems around things like date rape, gender bias in custody battles, rape accusations, prison sentencing bias, and so on. The "women are all bitches" guys should get their own tent, and everyone can treat them like the fringe group they really are. That would shield bonafide MRA to some… | /r/MensRights | 06/11/09 06:12 AM |
| 1 | Dear r/MensRights, is there a Men's Rights manifesto? It seems the cause is getting attention faster than supporters, and is already getting wrongly branded as fringe and extremist.Women, in the usa, have NOW. Not that it is the final arbiter of the feminist agenda, but it offers a formal, written agenda as far as I know. There are MRA groups, but nothing so pre-emininent as NOW. Fragmentation. What term would Sun Tzu use to describe the organization of the various groups? | /r/MensRights | 06/11/09 06:08 AM |
| 13 | Humiliation for Harriet Harman as statisticians dismiss her claims on equal payIf you multiply the pay gap by 1.84, and carry the banana, it comes out to 43%. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/09 04:51 PM |
| 2 | Appeals Court Says Swearing in Text Messages Isn’t a Crime : “Fuck u u stupid fuckin girl!,” read one of texts, in part. One of the girl’s friends told police about the texts, leading to the boy’s arrest. He was held four days in juvenile hall.interesting! So, I can describe a public official as a douchebag, and it's ok. But if I call a person a douchebag to his face, that might be "inciting a rational person to violence" ? What if I called a public official a douchebag to his face - he is both a public person and a private person. Doesn't matter. It's just interesting how the law works. Getting back to the texting of salty language - it's friggin ridiculous that anyone can be arrested for this. The govt has gone too far. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/09 04:20 AM |
| 2 | I'm reminded why I hate most television showsMy point is that such characters are extremely rare. Well yes, I think such characters are extremely rare, but I've been wrong before. It could be my own bias. Without a more thorough, at random survey, preferably from some experts (like a university researcher who knows media/culture/film studies) I'm not quite ready to conclude that "Male characters are rarely shown in a better light than their female counterparts". I think it's true, but not sure. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/09 01:46 AM |
| 3 | Daddies be damned! Who are the British women who think fathers are irrelevant? | Mail OnlineDaddies are damned in the USA, too. I don't think it's a matter of a conscious thought that "fathers are irrelevant." I think it is more along these lines: My attorney says I will get 50% custody, unless there is evidence of abuse. She suggests I might go to a shelter to find out if he abused me. (The attorney knows the score, gives strategic advice) The shelter says he abused me. The shelter says I (drink, have affairs, crash the car, etc) because he abused me. The shelter says he will continue… | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 11:09 PM |
| 5 | Appeals Court Says Swearing in Text Messages Isn’t a Crime : “Fuck u u stupid fuckin girl!,” read one of texts, in part. One of the girl’s friends told police about the texts, leading to the boy’s arrest. He was held four days in juvenile hall.No, that's totally wrong. You are obviously not thinking rationally. The correct party to sue is the one with the deepest pockets. At this point that is likely not your male friends nor the city. It is the distiller of the fine adult beverages you consumed. I'm sure the execs are all men, or if not, brainwashed women, all intent on oppressing women. Come on! Smarten up! | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 10:55 PM |
| 3 | Appeals Court Says Swearing in Text Messages Isn’t a Crime : “Fuck u u stupid fuckin girl!,” read one of texts, in part. One of the girl’s friends told police about the texts, leading to the boy’s arrest. He was held four days in juvenile hall.Vee hav vays of dealink vith such tings. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Appeals Court Says Swearing in Text Messages Isn’t a Crime : “Fuck u u stupid fuckin girl!,” read one of texts, in part. One of the girl’s friends told police about the texts, leading to the boy’s arrest. He was held four days in juvenile hall.can you please explain these rulings to a layperson? Does that mean I'm not permitted to call someone a name? Would I be allowed to say "Our government is fascist", say, in a letter to the editor? Would I be allowed to say "Our Vice President is a fascist" in the same letter? | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 10:52 PM |
| 2 | Appeals Court Says Swearing in Text Messages Isn’t a Crime : “Fuck u u stupid fuckin girl!,” read one of texts, in part. One of the girl’s friends told police about the texts, leading to the boy’s arrest. He was held four days in juvenile hall.You just fucking swore! In public! Write an essay describing what an asshole you are, for swearing! | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 10:50 PM |
| 2 | All parents - absent a finding of true harm - should have an absolute right to 50 percent custody of their children. (Slate, June 2004. I couldn't find a newer, mainstream press opinion)Funny how in alimony and child support the states want to make sure one side is placed on equal footing so the child can have similar life in both households and not to adversely affect one side. Should be no different in custody. The problem is, custody determines child support. Winning custody also means larger child support dollars, and as a result there is a strong financial incentive for a spouse to fight for more than 50% of custody. Allegations of domestic violence, because they are readi… | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 10:46 PM |
| 1 | All parents - absent a finding of true harm - should have an absolute right to 50 percent custody of their children. (Slate, June 2004. I couldn't find a newer, mainstream press opinion)Send this to your legislators, especially your state reps, but also your US congressional reps and Senate reps. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 11:40 AM |
| 2 | Judge in West Virginia issues summary judgment, ruling that the Abuse Shelters in the state are biased against men. (12 October 2009)Exactly. In Washington State, the Judges in cases involving child support, get paid by the Division of Child Support (DCS). The prosecutor also gets paid by DCS. http://washingtonsharedparenting.com/?p=425 It's an old-time corrupt racket. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 07:15 AM |
| 3 | I'm reminded why I hate most television showsSmarter? - hmm, how about Indy in any of the Indiana Jones movies. How about Rick in Casablanca? what's your point? | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 07:00 AM |
| 3 | If you search for "custody gender bias", there are ZERO links that mention bias against women. EVERY single link discusses bias against men.What I said in the other comment: that the people who post on the internet certainly don't think that gender bias in custody cases is a myth. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 06:52 AM |
| 2 | If you search for "custody gender bias", there are ZERO links that mention bias against women. EVERY single link discusses bias against men.Every one of the top 30 pages. What's your point, anyway? Suppose it isn't every single link. Suppose it is just 98% of links. What is your point? Are you suggesting that I have said something that is materially or substantially incorrect? | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 02:38 AM |
| 1 | If you search for "custody gender bias", there are ZERO links that mention bias against women. EVERY single link discusses bias against men.What is the "hyperbolic claim" ? | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 02:27 AM |
| 2 | I'm reminded why I hate most television showsIt's easy to cite examples. Frantic (1988)) - Harrison Ford movie. Typical damsel in distress, his wife is kidnapped. He uses the help of a female French-speaking drug runner, but her main quality is speaking French. The only reason I mention it is because I watched it recently. Lion King - highest grossing 2-D animated film in history. Simba's mother and Nala are both helpless without him. Scar takes over. When Simba returns, he saves everyone. Because it's easy to cite examples on either side,… | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 02:15 AM |
| 6 | Judge in West Virginia issues summary judgment, ruling that the Abuse Shelters in the state are biased against men. (12 October 2009)Summary: WV appointed a private coalition - the West Virginia Coalition Against Domestic Violence -- to set standards for oversight for the state-funded abuse shelters in the state. It turns out that the group defines "Domestic Violence" as a man-on-woman problem, ignoring the statistics. From the group's website: "violence against women is a political problem, a question of power and domination." In setting standards, the group decreed that shelters could not be certified unless one-third of th… | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Man-on-Woman violence is a crime. Woman-on-man violence is a mental health issue.I agree. I am for personal responsibility, and against persecution. Illness is not an excuse for bad behavior. Your crappy childhood is also not an excuse. On the other hand, bad behavior is not the same as "must be banished forever." | /r/MensRights | 03/11/09 01:01 AM |
| 1 | I'm reminded why I hate most television showsyou make a good point. It'd be interesting to do a more comprehensive survey. Mayeb someone who has taken a "Gender Issues in Film" class knows more. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/09 10:33 PM |
| 2 | DA wants judge removed from 2 DV cases - says the Judge inappropriately downplays the seriousness of DV allegationsWhat you describe sounds scary. Where's the data? The judge has seen lots more than you or I have. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/09 10:32 PM |
| 3 | Man-on-Woman violence is a crime. Woman-on-man violence is a mental health issue.The devil's advocate position is that the woman does have mental health issues. She needs help, not persecution. And likewise for a man who strikes a woman. I'm not arguing that the people at risk of violence should not be protected. I'm arguing that the family members should not be persecuted. When we criminalized normal human behavior, for example characterizing shouting during an argument as abuse, we started down a path of peril. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/09 10:30 PM |
| 3 | Man-on-Woman violence is a crime. Woman-on-man violence is a mental health issue.Except that there are probably feminists who subscribe, only to downvote everything. How else to explain it? | /r/MensRights | 02/11/09 10:28 PM |
| 3 | If you search for "custody gender bias", there are ZERO links that mention bias against women. EVERY single link discusses bias against men.There are some people who still deny that is exists when awarding custody in divorces. Just look at this article - there are 8 people who downvoted it anonymously without bothering to comment. A simple google search does not prove that custody bias exists. It does prove that the people who post on the internet, believe it exists. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/09 10:25 PM |
| 11 | Man-on-Woman violence is a crime. Woman-on-man violence is a mental health issue.One third of the people who voted on this, voted it down. ???? How can anyone think this is an undeserving story? It's a shocking example of bias. I guess downvoting this is just the equivalent of holding ones hands over one's ears, I'M NOT LISTENING!!!! LA LA LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING!!!! | /r/MensRights | 02/11/09 10:31 AM |
| 13 | I'm reminded why I hate most television showsYou can tell who the show is aimed at, by looking at the characters (although the tampon (or beer) commercials also give it away). That stuff can be invisible until you start paying attention. On the other hand, for a very long time, women have been portrayed as completely helpless and powerless in many action flicks. The damsel in distress, the hero coming to save her. She is completely passive. That's another theme that can be completely invisible, until you start paying attention. Tomb Raider… | /r/MensRights | 02/11/09 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Men accounted for 97% of alimony-payers last year according to the U.S. Census Bureau.There's nothing wrong with political activism. Your perspective - hire or lawyer or get fucked - is one view. I am suggesting unilateral disarmament as an alternative. Solve it through the family - the father in law, the sisters, the uncles and aunts. Giving money to an attorney is a form of implicit, perhaps unintentional political activism. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/09 08:24 AM |
| 5 | "First they ignore you (check), then they laugh at you (this has started), then they fight you (not yet), then you win." Looks like we're half way there.yep, we are well into the "laugh at you" stage... | /r/MensRights | 02/11/09 06:27 AM |
| 12 | Man-on-Woman violence is a crime. Woman-on-man violence is a mental health issue.It's not novel or unusual. It happens in many ways, many times every day. This guy was saved by the presence and testimony of children. The sad thing is, the presumption of guilt is never re-examined in many cases. In my case, the judge simply waved away my own children's testimony, explaining to me that they "still believed in Santa Claus", hence they were certainly not credible witnesses on my behalf. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/09 05:31 AM |
| 1 | DA wants judge removed from 2 DV cases - says the Judge inappropriately downplays the seriousness of DV allegationsps: Write in to the Houston Chronicle to register your opinion. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/09 11:17 PM |
| 2 | DA wants judge removed from 2 DV cases - says the Judge inappropriately downplays the seriousness of DV allegationsHere's an interesting case in Houston, Texas. A DA is now requesting the removal of a judge from DV cases - because that judge expresses skepticism about the DV allegations he sees. ...according to Thursday's motions, [Judge] Helm phoned a woman who wanted an emergency protective order. Sitting at the bench, Helm asked how she would pay for groceries and take care of her children without her husband. “He looks like a real killer to me. You're telling me you are afraid of him?” Helm is alleged to… | /r/MensRights | 01/11/09 11:16 PM |
| 34 | Man-on-Woman violence is a crime. Woman-on-man violence is a mental health issue.The man that was attacked was a Marine, and was partially disabled. Despite what he and his daughters reported to police, they arrested him anyway. Later after speaking to the daughters, one of whom was 11 years old, the deputies uncuffed the father. They advised him that he should use his medical insurance to seek help for the mother, his attacker. He later remarked, “When she had a fat lip, it was a felony and I was going to jail. But when they finally realized that she tried to stab me in the… | /r/MensRights | 01/11/09 09:15 PM |
| 2 | One Man's Story of Abuse, Restraining Orders, Family Court Bias, and Separation from His Little GirlI like this story because it shows the power of persistence and good faith actions. This father was arrested for domestic violence, prohibited from seeing his daughter, restrained from contacting the ex-wife. Through it all he continued acting the father, and eventually he obtained shared custody of his 4 year old girl. No family should have to go through this. Too many do. Read and understand. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/09 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Men accounted for 97% of alimony-payers last year according to the U.S. Census Bureau.I agree completely, that's how it ought to be. But it isn't, not now anyway. There is no burden of proof in divorce cases. It's all a judgement call by the judge. There are ways to fix this. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/09 05:10 PM |
| 3 | Men accounted for 97% of alimony-payers last year according to the U.S. Census Bureau.What can you do, right now, about this disaster? I'll tell you: stop paying divorce attorneys. Every dollar you give to a divorce attorney, whether for "good" reasons or not, is a contribution that encourages continuation of this ridiculous warfare. You cannot end a war by sending more weapons into the killing fields. You may be thinking "yeah, that's exactly how you end a war - with overwhelming force." or "I need to win the battle." No, sending in more armies and and more weapons that is how y… | /r/MensRights | 01/11/09 04:56 AM |
| 4 | Men accounted for 97% of alimony-payers last year according to the U.S. Census Bureau.But that's naive. Of course if she decides to end the marriage, she has a reason. "I just don't love him anymore." or "he is not the man I married." etc etc. Even that is not enough to justfiy alimony, hence it's got to be "he abused me" and "the abuse was so bad, I can no longer get a job." = Alimony. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/09 04:42 AM |
| 5 | Women Against Rape describe false accuser's two-year prison sentence as "outrageous"Is there some sort of slippery slope argument afoot here? No. It's just blind, mindless advocacy. "Women who accuse men are always right." | /r/MensRights | 01/11/09 12:37 AM |
| 4 | Women Against Rape describe false accuser's two-year prison sentence as "outrageous"Screw the feminists who don't think women No, don't screw them EVER. That way they won't reproduce. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/09 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Is there a REAL controversy over VAWA? Wikipedia entry gives no such hint. Who will write a section characterizing the criticism of the act?And no one cares to articulate why this is being downvoted? | /r/MensRights | 01/11/09 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Is there a REAL controversy over VAWA? Wikipedia entry gives no such hint. Who will write a section characterizing the criticism of the act?Criticism : Is it working? Is there any correlation between VAWA and decreased violence against women? Is it fair and constitutional? Given the statistics on violence, why is there a special law protecting women? Men may commit more violence, but they also suffer more violence. Why are women singled out here? Have there been abuses? Is Lisa Scott, a divorce attorney in Washington State, correct when she says, “protection orders have become ‘weapons of mass destruction’ in family courts. Whenever… | /r/MensRights | 31/10/09 08:03 PM |
| 2 | Paul and Theresa Taylor were married for 17 years. In their 1982 divorce, both agreed "to waive any right to past, present or future alimony." 20+ years later, Ms. Taylor had no job, retirement savings or health insurance. A judge ordered Mr. Taylor to pay $400 per week to support his ex-wife.The headline just captures one story from the article. There are many others that are equally ridiculous. The larger lesson I take away from this, is that adversarial divorce doesn't work, that family courts are ridiculous. We need reform. | /r/MensRights | 31/10/09 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Paul and Theresa Taylor were married for 17 years. In their 1982 divorce, both agreed "to waive any right to past, present or future alimony." 20+ years later, Ms. Taylor had no job, retirement savings or health insurance. A judge ordered Mr. Taylor to pay $400 per week to support his ex-wife.Women have been fighting for 100 years for Equality!! and this is how far they've got? Hmmmm.... | /r/MensRights | 31/10/09 06:30 PM |
| 2 | It can't get more what-the-fuckalicious: Aerik promotes claim that misandry does not exist.This is a post about a post. But ...the world is ok.... all the top comments on the original post disagreed very strongly with the statement that "misandry does not exist." | /r/MensRights | 31/10/09 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Convince us that you are worth the things you will take from us. Otherwise, leave us to our relatively awesome lives.Is there a trend toward more prenups? Seems like it but I have no idea. The problem is, the concept of a prenup goes against everything I ever imagined marriage was about - trust, lifetime partnership, loyalty, fulfillment through personal service to another human. Hopelessly naive, I know. But at that point, why marry? If you need a legal document (which a marriage already is)... then why call it a marriage? Why not just shack-up? | /r/MensRights | 31/10/09 07:45 AM |
| 2 | Jennifer Beeman at UC Davic inflated DV figures "the more assaults she reported, the more money her department received from the federal government"The boy is doing fine. He is a terrific teenager now - awkward and beautiful, at times energetic and lazy, sometimes pure genius and other times hopelessly naive. He's fine, he's growing up. He's not on drugs. It wasn't horrible for him at all - he wasn't aware that his parents were having these discussions. The downside for him now is that his mother does not speak to me. Kids suffer when parents feud. The discussion about Ritalin, and the years-later characterization by her attorney of my opin… | /r/MensRights | 31/10/09 07:39 AM |
| 1 | Convince us that you are worth the things you will take from us. Otherwise, leave us to our relatively awesome lives.Never offer to buy a woman a drink. | /r/MensRights | 29/10/09 06:54 AM |
| 7 | Convince us that you are worth the things you will take from us. Otherwise, leave us to our relatively awesome lives.You must be dating the wrong women. The woman I have dated have never tried to send me to jail or cripple me with legal costs. I have a huge boost of self esteem from relationships, even after the breakup (once the initial pain goes away). Where does a lower standard of living come from? what you said was true for my case as well, until... it was no longer true. It only happened once. And once was enough. The lower standard of living comes from a contentious divorce. The original comment mention… | /r/MensRights | 29/10/09 06:38 AM |
| 2 | Convince us that you are worth the things you will take from us. Otherwise, leave us to our relatively awesome lives.An entirely defensible and rational position, from where I'm standing. | /r/MensRights | 29/10/09 06:01 AM |
| 7 | Convince us that you are worth the things you will take from us. Otherwise, leave us to our relatively awesome lives....just exposes you as the troll you are. There was no need for that. There was plenty of room to interpret the question as a reasonable request for an exchange of ideas. You chose to take it negatively and then escalate the negativity in the dialog. | /r/MensRights | 29/10/09 05:59 AM |
| 7 | 10 Steps to a happy, healthy remarriage -- although not big mens rights issue, I thought it was refreshing to share and article written by a woman, putting men in a positive lightI thought it was refreshing to share and article written by a woman, putting men in a positive light Many of us forget, that women are our partners. A woman brought us into this world, and in many cases one or more women took care of us while we were young. Women, at their best, contribute patience, diplomacy, and compassion in the world. I know I am repeating the stereotype, but you know what they say about stereotypes - they're always true. Most women are NOT hateful, irrational, controlling b… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/09 06:28 PM |
| 1 | I don't know where to turn.earlier you wrote: to compensate for cases where women are indeed abused but cannot prove it. There is no burden of proof in family law court. It is not like criminal court. I thought it was, but it is not. I thought there would be an examination of evidence. But there is none. I thought for sure, with the accusations she is making, she will be proven as a perjurer, and I cannot lose. I was wrong. so I can't accept that this was in fact the sole reason why your kids were taken away You don't bel… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/09 07:10 AM |
| 1 | I don't know where to turn.People are still irrationally afraid Precisely. She was irrationally afraid. That was my observation. And my opinion is that irrational fear should not be a good reason to take my kids away from me. But in fact, it is. Before she asked for the protection from the court, she changed the locks on the house. I had moved out 30 days prior. I had never come to the house uninvited. I had not phoned her. Then she announced that she changed the locks. I asked her, why? (She had left the house for 5 days… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/09 06:59 AM |
| 1 | I don't know where to turn.I have no idea about the rate of actual cases of abuse. I do know that the system is not interested in making a serious evaluation. If the court hears a complaint, an accusation, the gears are in motion and there is no stopping them. That is, literally, all it takes. Did you read the thing from the Attorney Lisa Scott, that I included in a prior post? Wait, here's more: A tutorial for women, for effective use of DV allegations highlights: Get him out of the house, on any pretext (my ex did this)… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/09 06:54 AM |
| 1 | I don't know where to turn.No, not at all. I don't think I'm being emotional , and I don't know what you intend by saying that. After it happened to me, I started to research and solicit assistance. And every one I spoke with told me, this is how it goes. This is all it takes. I was ordered by the court into a DV offenders program. I sat next to real offenders - people who admitted to starting fights with complete strangers in the street. People who broke into houses. People who actually, truly beat their spouses. These w… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/09 06:30 AM |
| 1 | I don't know where to turn.ps: how would I possibly have statistical data on this? Would I ask judges, "have you handed out protection orders needlessly?" What do you think a judge would say? | /r/MensRights | 27/10/09 06:26 AM |
| 1 | I don't know where to turn.None. I can only report what I saw. My ex petitioned for protection. At the hearing I protested and said there is nothing to worry about, there is absolutely no need for this, the kids are not in fear of me and I have not harmed them. There was no evidence of any harm - not a single third party report or testimony. The judge threw up her hands, and said (verbatim) "She appears to be afraid." And then ruled that I could not see my kids. That was all it took for me. That is why I said "in practice… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/09 06:21 AM |
| 3 | Radical feminist: Men's rights activists 'deserve to have their fun destroyed'yes, Diplomacy. But also: Self control, thoughtful concern, and rational arguments presented calmly. We can be torqued off about something without resorting to name calling or whining. It is so much more important than that. | /r/MensRights | 27/10/09 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Radical feminist: Men's rights activists 'deserve to have their fun destroyed'Some women defend men's rights groups only because men have abused them for so long, to lead them to believe what we all know is untrue - that men are human. It takes years of therapy to undo the damage. | /r/MensRights | 27/10/09 12:38 AM |
| 9 | Concordia professor tells men to 'man up'And by "man up", he means men should start organizing and fighting for their rights as women have done – because as everyone learns at some point or other, ignoring problems does not make them go away, and they only come back later to bite you even harder. | /r/MensRights | 27/10/09 12:35 AM |
| 1 | I don't know where to turn.I think it's unwarranted to conclude that "other people support her" means they believe her concerns are valid. I spoke with my father in law when my ex-wife was doing all sorts of things, and he didn't want to discuss it. In the end, he shook his head and said "Blood is blood". He understood, and communicated to me very clearly, that he did not approve of what she was doing but he supported her anyway. Why would this guy, a stand-up respectable older gentleman, do this? I'll tell you why: it's … | /r/MensRights | 26/10/09 11:14 PM |
| 1 | I don't know where to turn.Nobody said she had done it "lightly". "Fear for their safety" is one reason she could take the kids away. (A related question is whether such fear is well founded, or whether it is based on an irrational over-reaction. But leave that for another time) "Fear of losing custody" is another reason she could take the kids away, and in my estimation it is not an uncommon motivator for such actions. "Fear of losing custody" is real fear, and may often be valid. For example if the woman has abused alco… | /r/MensRights | 26/10/09 11:09 PM |
| 2 | I don't know where to turn.EXACTLY | /r/MensRights | 26/10/09 11:05 PM |
| 6 | Why do women have sex? For the same reasons men do, explain the authors of a groundbreaking new book that looks deep inside female desire (great article)So you say. It sounds very authoritative, too. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/09 05:28 PM |
| 6 | Why do women have sex? For the same reasons men do, explain the authors of a groundbreaking new book that looks deep inside female desire (great article)What is at odds? I don't see it. The claim from the article, as far as I know, is that women have sex because they like it, just as men do. How is this at odds with the orgasm stat? Are you saying that sex is not enjoyable unless there is an orgasm? Lots of women disagree. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/09 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Why do women have sex? For the same reasons men do, explain the authors of a groundbreaking new book that looks deep inside female desire (great article)75% DON'T, not can't. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/09 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?Yes it is. Merciless is the word for it. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/09 03:29 PM |
| 3 | The top 10 cruel things women do to menI dislike articles like this because they distract from true cruelty. The article should be "10 petty annoying things women do, that I want to whine about." The fact is, as BS pointed out, women do some truly cruel things. Bringing up silly, petty matters and characterizing them as cruel, just dilutes and obscures the truth. It actually harms the mens rights' movement to have whiny columns like this. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/09 03:59 AM |
| 1 | The top 10 cruel things women do to menfeel no shame in openly visiting hookers This sort of violates the "Don't ever buy woman drinks to get her into bed" rule. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/09 03:56 AM |
| 2 | Woman gets fired and falsely accuses boss of rape. Judge: "People who make false sexual accusations...may expect to receive immediate...sentences...these sort of allegations are all too easy to make and very difficult to refute. ...my public duty requires me to send you immediately to prison."I don't know the law, but there is one. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/09 06:32 AM |
| 7 | Woman gets fired and falsely accuses boss of rape. Judge: "People who make false sexual accusations...may expect to receive immediate...sentences...these sort of allegations are all too easy to make and very difficult to refute. ...my public duty requires me to send you immediately to prison."wow. Great to see. Now please post a story about a woman being jailed for lying in divorce proceedings. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/09 12:18 AM |
| 2 | I'v come to the conclusion that most women are not good peoplehe is an opinion. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/09 03:23 PM |
| 1 | I'v come to the conclusion that most women are not good peopleYeah, it's pretty hard to argue against honesty, integrity, and honor. That doesn't feel like a judgment call to me. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/09 03:22 PM |
| 4 | Obama: Men need to be 'knocked across the head' when it comes to sharing family dutiesWomen need to be knocked over the head ... Wait by your door. The police will be coming by to pick you up. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/09 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Do we need to video record our entire lives to protect ourself from fraudulent accusations of rape or sexual harassment?Very true. And there's no way to directly get them to do so, either. The only thing we can do is be the change we want to see in the world. | /r/MensRights | 22/10/09 03:51 AM |
| 3 | Do we need to video record our entire lives to protect ourself from fraudulent accusations of rape or sexual harassment?No, we don't need video tape. Instead we need to find our way to a more moral way of being. We need to teach our children to respect other people, and to value honesty and personal integrity. We need to set examples. There is no quick fix. You can only act locally. The next time the cashier gives you too much change, give it back. The next time you are in traffic, drive with patience and courtesy. The next time someone does something that bothers you, speak honestly and calmly. There is only one… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/09 09:34 AM |
| 2 | The Australian Government is planning to roll back shared parenting law passed in the final term of the previous Government, enraging men's groups, which say the laws have finally given them access to their children after separation.I'm amazed. In the US, in my experience, fathers DO have rights, but they are easily pushed aside based on unfounded allegations. There are recommendations or "stated positions" from family courts that children benefit from a relationship with both parents. There are no firm guidelines that state that a father should get equal parenting time as the mother. The courts still entertain questions like "who is the better parent?" and when the father has a career while the mother has stayed at home, t… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/09 04:34 AM |
| 3 | The Australian Government is planning to roll back shared parenting law passed in the final term of the previous Government, enraging men's groups, which say the laws have finally given them access to their children after separation.Why was the shared parenting amendment thought of as controversial, when it was passed by the Howard Govt? The article doesn't say. Why do they think taking children away from all men is the appropriate reaction to a man murdering his child? It's a horrible case, but rare and specific. We don't all demand to take kids away from all women when a crazy woman murders her children. Why would we take kids away from all men? | /r/MensRights | 19/10/09 10:08 PM |
| 3 | Victim of child support torture claims hidden bloody evidenceI'm glad sanity has returned for this particular family. It's ridiculous that it only had the chance to return when the woman relented from her attacks. The lesson from the story is, if the woman is pissed off and wants to have a war with her ex, there will be a war. The man will lose his money, his kids, and ultimately his personal liberty. It's entirely her choice. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/09 08:33 PM |
| 4 | Misandrist mothers: the next (current?) wave of feminism.That's a good point. I guess I was saying, that people who are strong, independent, intelligent, thoughtful, mature, and self-capable, are by definition not going to be seeking help through a shelter for feeling oppressed. I'm not imagining that intelligent means "technical", or that strong means "physically strong". Also, I'm not advocating that parents should fashion their girls into Hillary Clinton, or Dana Torres, or a clone of themselves. I share your view that kids, properly nurtured, will… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/09 05:14 AM |
| 5 | Misandrist mothers: the next (current?) wave of feminism.Wow, that's early. There are good people out there. You'll find one. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/09 04:51 AM |
| 10 | Misandrist mothers: the next (current?) wave of feminism.Ahh! good point. But I never said that. Not sure if you are attributing the idea to me or not. If you want to argue that point, you'll have to find someone else. I was responding to the original statement along the lines of "I will be deeply disappointed if any of my children are women (girls)'. I never suggested to anyone to have more children "to get the full experience." | /r/MensRights | 14/10/09 09:24 PM |
| 5 | Misandrist mothers: the next (current?) wave of feminism.I think you can have the full experience from any given child. and I'm telling you, from experience, you're wrong. | /r/MensRights | 14/10/09 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Misandrist mothers: the next (current?) wave of feminism.I'm just saying, they're different. Baby boys ad baby girls are different. Like the mountains and the ocean. You'd be missing half of the parenting experience. | /r/MensRights | 14/10/09 08:51 PM |
| 11 | Misandrist mothers: the next (current?) wave of feminism.You'd be missing out on half of parenting life. Actually when babies are born, they are not women. They start out as beautiful baby girls, and they are a true treasure. If you take care of them well, they can grow into strong, independent, intelligent, thoughtful, mature, self-capable women, who won't join NOW or ever have cause to visit a women's shelter. | /r/MensRights | 14/10/09 08:45 PM |
| 5 | Misandrist mothers: the next (current?) wave of feminism.What I'd like to know: If you truly are a misandrist mother, and you have a male child, and assuming he grows up to have some masculine personality characteristics - in other words he is confident, he is forceful with his opnions when convinced they are valid - when does that mother switch over from being in love with this child to hating him? Or, more generally, what is the cut-off point? In the continuum or masculinity, on one end sniveling, groveling eunuch... and on the other end the genetic… | /r/MensRights | 14/10/09 08:43 PM |
| 3 | Modern man a wimp says anthropologist. So which is it 'violent masculinity' or wimp?I think the article is saying ... I agree. It's a distortion to project a misandrist viewpoint on the author. | /r/MensRights | 14/10/09 08:38 PM |
| 7 | Modern man a wimp says anthropologist. So which is it 'violent masculinity' or wimp?No, I don't think the author's opinion is that we shouldn't be alive. I took his point to be that in the past, humans were physically very capable. Your point, that we have used our brains to eliminate the stress ourselves seeking shelter or food, is reasonable. A big brain can be an advantage over strong legs. | /r/MensRights | 14/10/09 08:37 PM |
| 6 | In Warren County, Pennsylvania, persons arrested on a charge of domestic violence are given two options: Go to jail, or sign a pre-printed form that says, “I have physically and emotionally battered my partner.” The defendant is never innocent.There oughta be a law! | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 04:45 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?Well, thanks. | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?I appreciate your compassion. The problem is, I don't know what to do now. I've been thoroughly beaten down, and I think it's bad for the kids, but I have no other ideas. I left the house, and 6 months later she used a DV allegation to prevent me from returning. I had no money for a third residence (we had just moved, across the country, and the prior house was not sold). So I went bankrupt. Then foreclosure. Then permanent loss of the kids. I don't know who was served throughout this experience… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 04:37 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?Most men don't sue for custody simply because they believe children belong with their mothers. I know, they are my clients and they have told me so. ok, I'll believe you. My case was a clear outlier. When I tried to fight, there was literally no upside. One allegation, and I was in the penalty box, and that was the end of the story. It was just a matter of accepting it. | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 04:29 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?Results in uncontested cases are not the result of bias in the court, because the court has no impact in their outcome. The parties decide themselves. Your reasoning is not sound. The parties decide based on the prevailing legal climate and precedents. What father wants to lose his house on a chance of gaining custody? These are terrible decisions. Eliminating 90% of the cases and saying the actions of the court have no bearing on those decisions, is faulty. Let me ask you, in malpractice cases,… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?FSU questioned the analytical approach of dismissing uncontested cases. Why are there so many? Could it be because women win so often? The FSU analysis does not have the answer. But it raised a question that the 20-yr old Mass study did not even acknowledge. That is evidence of bad analysis. | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?Hey, I learned something. That Massachusetts study on gender bias that you cited? The one that is 20 years old now? It too, like Wietzman's work, is held up as an example of persistent bias in the system! B. The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court's Gender Bias Study of the Court System in Massachusetts Although allegedly implemented "to determine the extent, nature, and consequences of gender bias in the judiciary and to make remedial recommendations to promote the fair and equal treatment of … | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?Here's another one on Weitzman. The theory was founded on a profound fallacy – actually a deliberate fraud. Multiple studies, beginning from that point and continuing yet today, demonstrate this. Today, Lenore Weitzman has admitted that her study, made more than thirty years ago, was fundamentally flawed. She admits that the “statistical model” used to analyze that data was in substantial error, and worse, that she knew about it when she published her report. In fact, the statistics showed that,… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?Yes, I agree that it is the parties that make it ugly. One person willing to make it ugly is enough. If I don't want a "brutal bloody battle", in the interests of the children, I have no recourse, if my adversary is a terrorist. | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?I think you are pulling my leg. Are we looking at the same Gitlin Law web page? You are offering a number, and so is a law firm. Where is the study? Where is the real data? I read in a magazine the other day that "1 in 4 women live in a black-and-blue world, are abused daily byb their mates." No citation. Where does this data come from? Without a citation, no one should accept the data. Certainly not you. But doesn't the law then give a party (generally the woman) an incentive to make up false a… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?I'd like to know more about the stats. What do you mean by "women win contested custody cases 60% of the time." What is a "win"? How often do men "win" using the same definition? How often is there "a tie"? Citations appreciated. | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?I don't understand how anyone can look at my situation and conclude there is anything but bias against men in the system. Honestly, an evaluator told the judge "he reported that he saw them at Christmas." I told her I was with them for an entire week. How does this happen? How does she manage to write those words, if she is not biased? When I asked her, she actually attempted to defend her statement as an accurate description of my remarks to her. It's not a matter of perspective. The system is … | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?Obvviously I did it wrong then. See, I went into it without a sexist bias. A female judge, attorney, evaluator - they were as good as a male, I was gender blind when it came to professionals involved in the case. And so. My mother was president of a community bank, in the Jimmy Stewart Wonderful Life sort of way. She was a leader. I have three sisters - one an attorney, one an MD, another in private banking. I have always respected women. I never felt "oppressed" or ripped off. I don't feel the … | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?You have much more experience than I do. I have experience in exactly one case - mine. I expressed a desire to have fully shared custody. The longer I persisted, the more I lost. When I expressed the opinion that I could pursue a cooperative parenting plan with my ex, her lawyer held that up as a sign that I was stalking her. My willingness to cooperate was evidence that I should not get shared parenting. Surreal? yes. But also just-plain-real. It was the state that took away my kids. | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 02:10 AM |
| 2 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?ok, I follow. And then Person A says "he was abusive" and Person B says "No I wasn't." Then Person C says "well, I can't be sure so I'm going to uphold person A's petition for protection, pending an investigation of these serious allegations." Then Person B doesn't see his kids for a month. By this time they have established an independent life from Person B. They are afraid to call Person B because Person B told them he cannot talk to them. They invite Person B to their (his) house, but Person … | /r/MensRights | 13/10/09 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Inequity in Divorce and Custody - What can YOU do today?I don't understand why this would ever be downvoted. 3 anonymous silent downvotes so far. Any downvoters care to explain why? | /r/MensRights | 12/10/09 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Inequity in Divorce and Custody - What can YOU do today?In any state? How does that work? | /r/MensRights | 12/10/09 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Jennifer Beeman at UC Davic inflated DV figures "the more assaults she reported, the more money her department received from the federal government"Thank you. He's doing fine in school now. He still fidgets, but less. He's not on drugs. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/09 06:11 PM |
| 2 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?And another thing - why do men have to "fight" for custody of their own children? What kind of system is it, where my children are taken away from me, and I have to "fight" to get them back? What kind of world is this? I am not saying my children are not worth fighting for. I am saying, a state that unilaterally takes children away from fathers, routinely, as happens in the US, is wrong. I am saying that it is distorted that someone, anyone, can say to a parent "you must now fight for your child… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/09 11:02 AM |
| 2 | Who is responsible for the state of divorce and custody law today?What does it mean "fighting for custody"? I borrowed to the point of ruin, I furnished a home, was on time every time, for pickups and dropoffs. No homework crises. No health issues. No safety issues. We always had fun. And I still "get to visit" 2 times a month. "Fighting for custody" means attacking the mother. It's insane. The groundrules of the game are insane. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/09 09:08 AM |
| 11 | Jennifer Beeman at UC Davic inflated DV figures "the more assaults she reported, the more money her department received from the federal government"And it loops around. My son, 10 at the time, was one of those "problem kids". HE fidgeted in school. An excellent student, he was not apparently very attentive during lessons. When the teachers challenged him directly, he would answer completely and correctly. He had been paying attention, but he didn't "look like" he was. The school suggested drugs, the physician suggested drugs, even the mother wanted drugs. I resisted it. I asked rational questions like, what problem are we trying to solve he… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/09 05:24 AM |
| 8 | Jennifer Beeman at UC Davic inflated DV figures "the more assaults she reported, the more money her department received from the federal government"The same pressure occurs at every little fiefdom represented by an abused women's shelter. Once established, once there is a manager of the shelter appointed, her validity and importance is increased if there are more people served. There is no dis-incentive for any of the managers of these centers to report fair numbers. I understand there is corruption in government bureaucracies. It's a sad fact of life, unavoidable. It costs lots of money. A reality we all sort of just accept. On the other h… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/09 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Any help or advice for divorce/custody battle?without breaching ethics, or has he already (by telling "his" lawyer that she seemed "not all there") Sure seems like an ethical breach to me. I hate divorce, and I think divorce lawyers give lawyers a bad name. How arrogant can a person be? They are all cronies. They all know each other. People come to them to divorce, and the lawyers make the decision on how it should go. The lawyers conclude "she is not all there* or He is large and scary and that's it. They pronounce their judgments silently… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/09 10:56 PM |
| 4 | Any help or advice for divorce/custody battle?I think going this route now would brand me in a poor light. No, it would not. It happened to me, and the only incident in question was 2 years prior. She is not in a womens' shelter. That doesn't matter. What matters is the legal advice she gets from the people at the shelter, the tactics she learns how to use. They are not in danger right now, though. Doesn't matter. By petitioning for protection, you are demonstrating that you want to protect them in the future. Listen, I understand it takes … | /r/MensRights | 09/10/09 11:02 PM |
| 4 | Any help or advice for divorce/custody battle?from a battered womens' shelter, even though I never touched her and haven't heard any accusations of such behavior. I know she got some furniture from them and is seeing a counselor there, though, which pisses me off because I know there are probably families out there that actually need those resources instead of her. Huge warning flag. Immediately change what you are doing, NOW. My attorney's strategy was to hold off on court for as long as possible to establish the current custody arrangemen… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/09 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Perpetuating the myth "1 in 4 women is beaten in her own home. Fists and Bruises, a black-and-blue world."Let me tell you, a slap on the face, a single slap, is enough to lose your children. And yes, it was because she was cheating. She didn't call it abuse until 2 years later when she went to a DV shelter - there was no intervening incident, unless you count her continued cheating during that time as an incident, and her profane tirades at me as "me committing violence". When she went to the shelter, she learned how to file for protection, and that was the day I lost my kids, permanently. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/09 06:21 AM |
| 1 | Purse-holding: Manly display of caring, or emasculation?I am glad to do favors, when it is not possible for the person to do for him or herself. I will make money for a family, but I don't hang up the towels that the 10 year old leaves on his floor. Sure, I could do that favor, I am fully capable. But in the end it is a disservice to everyone concerned. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/09 05:14 AM |
| 1 | Perpetuating the myth "1 in 4 women is beaten in her own home. Fists and Bruises, a black-and-blue world."You see my point, then. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/09 04:56 AM |
| 1 | Purse-holding: Manly display of caring, or emasculation?It's not that holding a purse is feminine. That appears to your your hangup. The issue is that it is unnecessarily subservient. It's not like she's physically unable to hold the purse herself. Or if she is, she should have thought of that, and left the purse at home. It's like getting pushed around in a wheelchair when you are perfectly able to walk. In a world of equity, there's no reason for you to command or even request someone else to serve you in that way. I am a big believer in service. I… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/09 04:53 AM |
| 1 | Purse-holding: Manly display of caring, or emasculation?Hold your own damn purse! Why would I hold your purse? "Here, honey, hold my keys." | /r/MensRights | 09/10/09 04:48 AM |
| 1 | Perpetuating the myth "1 in 4 women is beaten in her own home. Fists and Bruises, a black-and-blue world."Yes, it's entirely possible, maybe even likely? that this is the way the statistic was worked into this article, an article full of imagery like "fists and bruises" and "black and blue". Whichever way the statistic was worked into the article, whether accidentally or, if you are a conspiracy theorist, willfully - It is irresponsible. The fact that some author, or some editor, or both, allowed this paragraph to be written this way, is completely unacceptable. Imagine if this kind of blatant exagg… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/09 04:40 AM |
| 1 | Perpetuating the myth "1 in 4 women is beaten in her own home. Fists and Bruises, a black-and-blue world."So far 9 people voted this down, and not one of them offered a source, or even a suggestion for a source, of real data. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/09 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Perpetuating the myth "1 in 4 women is beaten in her own home. Fists and Bruises, a black-and-blue world."I would love for a men's rights org to do a substantive, anonymous survey of law enforcement officers. Ask them: how many DV calls have you been in in the last year? How many involved men being violent to children? to women? How many involved women being violent to men? to children? How many involved children beating their parents? (when I was in high school a classmate of mine was arrested for beating his parents. He was large and very troubled.). How many of these (or what proportion) seemed l… | /r/MensRights | 08/10/09 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Perpetuating the myth "1 in 4 women is beaten in her own home. Fists and Bruises, a black-and-blue world."Exactly. A very effective tactic used by litigators. And demagogues. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/09 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Perpetuating the myth "1 in 4 women is beaten in her own home. Fists and Bruises, a black-and-blue world."Special interest groups abound. I'm special, you're special. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/09 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Perpetuating the myth "1 in 4 women is beaten in her own home. Fists and Bruises, a black-and-blue world."So no-one has the real data? Where does the 1-in-4 number come from? | /r/MensRights | 08/10/09 04:28 PM |
| 4 | Perpetuating the myth "1 in 4 women is beaten in her own home. Fists and Bruises, a black-and-blue world."I'm not so sure everyone else has the same sniff test you do... The wording of the article is such that it evokes sympathy - who cannot feel for a black-and-blue woman? The care and effort it takes to paint the image, with full in-color visualizations, makes it clear that this article is not about data or facts. It is about establishing and re-inforcing the image of women as the suffering gender, the oppressed minority. And men, especially larger men, are the criminals. If you are a male, the la… | /r/MensRights | 08/10/09 04:27 PM |
| 2 | Perpetuating the myth "1 in 4 women is beaten in her own home. Fists and Bruises, a black-and-blue world."Are you serious? It already is abuse, in family court. It is reason enough for the state to take away children. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/09 04:23 PM |
| 2 | How do you locate a Divorce attorney? (This is NOT an ad) Can we make a list?marriage did? I don't think I understand your point. you seem to not believe in marriage, but that opinion doesn't imply marriage created the divorce industry. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/09 05:05 AM |
| 1 | Congratulations MR, we are now 6,000 and ever-growing!Ok, I appreciate that. But isn't there something else we could do? Discussing alternative actions is one option. Even if those actions can't happen on reddit, is it not a useful thing to discuss? That goes beyond awareness (aka circle jerk) and into discussion and planning of advocacy actions. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/09 07:39 PM |
| 3 | Is there a NOM - a National Organization for Men - that can carry forward men's issues?I replied to the response of this. I'm posting this to let you know, you may want to read the response, too. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/09 05:49 PM |
| 3 | Is there a NOM - a National Organization for Men - that can carry forward men's issues?I think it requires data, a basis for opinions. We all have opinions, but why do we think the way we think? What supporting evidence or data do we have? What does it mean "Argue in another forum"? Arguing seems to alienate people in any case. Advocating a position is a little different. Ok, so what position are you advocating? That criminal sentencing is inequitable? That fathers' rights are not respected in divorce cases with contested custody? That false accusations of rape are common? Any of … | /r/MensRights | 04/10/09 05:49 PM |
| 4 | BBC misandry: Do we need men?Well of course he would be labeled sexist. He is a sexist. That is easy to see from the penis between his legs. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/09 05:37 PM |
| 5 | When daddy is just an optional extraLenore Weitzman write a book in 1985, The Divorce Revolution, that claimed that men have a 42% improvement in their post-divorce standard of living while women have a 73% decline. This was complete rubbish, but yet was presented scientifically, and on that basis became accepted as fact, and became very influential in defining state-mandated spousal maintenance tables across the USA. Despite being proven as based on faulty data, the influence of this bogus finding remains. Many researchers have s… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/09 05:29 PM |
| 1 | When daddy is just an optional extraAn great social change happens only through organized, thoughtful advocacy. I'm not talking about street protests. I'm talking about clearly identifying the issues, articulating and documenting the inequities, and describing what needs to change and why. Rachel Carson's 1962 book "Silent Spring", served to catalyze real action on environment issues. But the book alone did not cause the change. It was one piece in a large puzzle. We don't need "one piece". We need to assemble all the pieces of th… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/09 04:58 PM |
| 1 | When daddy is just an optional extraYawn. Another story about inequity for fathers in parenting. I'm glad it ran. I hope millions read it. Reading it "validates me". But, what is the real result of this article? We can all stop wringing our hands for a moment, and feel a little satisfied. Does that actually change anything? What is going to bring about real change? If we truly cared, we would take a strategic marketing approach to the situation. This means, we collect real data, draw conclusions, and determine if we think a change… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/09 04:55 PM |
| 3 | Is there a NOM - a National Organization for Men - that can carry forward men's issues?I hear the question coming out of my own mouth, and it sounds ridiculous to me. But let me tell you, too many people, too many good men are being cut down, beat up legally, violated. I don't wanna sound like a bitch. I never thought this stuff really happened. But I've lived it. I've seen it. I've seen what the other side does. I used to be so naive, thought that if you just play it straight, be honest, you'll stay clean, live a good life. That's not what happens. There are people out there who … | /r/MensRights | 03/10/09 08:11 AM |
| 17 | Ex-Wives Angry Over Paying Alimony After Divorce - ABC Newsimagine that. Alimony is no fun and feels like a ripoff. Hmm. | /r/MensRights | 03/10/09 04:46 AM |
| 2 | I don't understand the hate!yes that's what he meant. | /r/MensRights | 03/10/09 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Congratulations MR, we are now 6,000 and ever-growing!Glad to see it growing, but... what's next? Honestly, sharing stories, commiserating, ... it's helpful but it only goes so far. It's like the ladies meeting for tea. I'd like more people to be aware of these issues, and organic growth of this subreddit is good, but it doesn't scale very well as a way to spread the word. The end goal is to achieve more equity. To get fairer treatment in courts, to reform VAWA, that sort of thing. Concrete results. What else can and should be done? Or am I expecti… | /r/MensRights | 02/10/09 11:06 PM |
| 3 | A woman's unwanted fetus is wanted by the father. He demands it be placed in this 1960's artificial womb to be born and raised. Should he have that right? (and next- should the woman be forced to pay child support?)Quite right. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/09 10:56 PM |
| -2 | The Psychology of HateStarting with a headline like that, it's almost like a losing cause from the beginning. But they've got to grab attention with the headline. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:55 AM |
| 2 | Why I loathe feminism ... and believe it will ultimately destroy the family | Mail OnlineVery true. good points. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Why I loathe feminism ... and believe it will ultimately destroy the family | Mail OnlineThe pendulum has swung too far, and I don't hear any feminist leaders complaining about it. Men are deprived custody of their children, and are there women talking about how important men are in a child's life? I don't think so. Feminism has honorable goals but tragically has now been used as a cudgel against men. I like security and the order of law in society, but taken too far, we get to a police state where people cannot congregate outside. Feminism as an ideal is good, but in practice it ha… | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:52 AM |
| 2 | Why I loathe feminism ... and believe it will ultimately destroy the family | Mail Onlinethe "doofus" is unnecessary. you can make a point without that. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Why I loathe feminism ... and believe it will ultimately destroy the family | Mail Onlineit's 1-in-3. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:46 AM |
| 0 | The Psychology of HateTotally agree. No need to go over the top - the facts speak for themselves. It's so hard to maintain an even keel when discussing these things. People look at an unjust situation and think that it warrants drama or hyperbole. It's rarely helpful. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:31 AM |
| -2 | The Psychology of HateCareful! True, thoughtful feminism is about equity, not equality; about fairness, not retribution or demonization. I know that lots of adversarial policies wear the mantle of feminism, but it is not true feminism, any more than creationism is true science. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:30 AM |
| 1 | The Psychology of HateThere are a LOT of students that enter the field of psychology because they think it will teach them to self-diagnose ... interesting. Do you have a source for this? or is this just a guess of yours... | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:28 AM |
| 2 | The Psychology of HateWait til she becomes entrenched in a practice, when all her peer interaction is with other women. It's an echo chamber. All the goofy things her classmates talk about now, garnished with professional credentials, let it cook for about 8 years, and what you get is a truely misguided staff of psychologists running state CPS agencies, family courts, and so on. It is the same effect as the "good old boys club" in the boardrooms and executive suites. Neither is good. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:27 AM |
| 1 | We constantly hear how women are treated badly, but you guys get the shit end of the stick a lot also... I'm sick of the battle of the sexes.Great perspective. If anyone is in doubt about the cultural bias against men, read this article from another reddit post. I don't think there is any short term solution to the problems we are facing right now in this regard, but a good first step is for each person to broaden their perspective of the other side. It is much harder to turn your eye or even to pursue or encourage an adversarial policy if you can see the common humanity of the "adversary". For that reason it's important for people t… | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:24 AM |
| 1 | We constantly hear how women are treated badly, but you guys get the shit end of the stick a lot also... I'm sick of the battle of the sexes.Funny - watch some old James Bond movies with Sean Connery. It's rare to see a film from the 60's where he does not slap a woman when she is getting uppity. These days that is an imprisonable offense. Moral: Don't take lessons from the movies. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:13 AM |
| 1 | We constantly hear how women are treated badly, but you guys get the shit end of the stick a lot also... I'm sick of the battle of the sexes.There is no battle. There doesn't need to be a battle, but honestly, there are people who benefit from a battle. Divorce attorneys make much more money if there is more rancor in a case, because there are more filings and that means more time. In addition, attorneys benefit if there are more divorces. Child Protection Services ostensibly serve children, but when they make decisions on custody, this puts them in the middle of an adversarial relationship. This is a power trip, and CPS people often… | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Is There Anything Good About Fathers?The article stated, in part: The conclusion of all these books and studies can only be one: the status of fatherhood needs to be upgraded immediately. The available research clearly demonstrates that growing up without your father puts a child at a real disadvantage in a host of ways. I don't disagree with that, but all these studies and "metrics" miss what I think is the key thing - growing up without a father who loves you and loves to spend time with you is a rip off. It's a personal loss for… | /r/MensRights | 30/09/09 12:02 AM |
| 1 | How the horrific marginalization and treatment of fathers is leading to the collapse of societyBut how will it ever change? If I pay my attorney $40,000 to "fix" my situation, money which I do not have but could theoretically borrow, all I have done is contributed to the conflagration, implicitly encouraged 4 more promising young people to enter law school and become a "family law attorney", because there's good money to be made. And there is no guarantee that it is even possible to "fix it". Every legal step I have taken so far has been completely pointless. Borrowing $40,000 to fight my… | /r/MensRights | 28/09/09 05:23 AM |
| 2 | The campus date-rape campaigns of the early 1990s weren't motivated by a genuine concern for the well-being of women. They were part of an ongoing attempt to delegitimize heterosexuality to young, impressionable women by demonizing men as rapists.I'm for men's rights (and women's rights, and people's rights in general). but this sounds like a crackpot. delegitimize heterosexuality? | /r/MensRights | 19/09/09 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Turkish woman cuts off partner's penis.Belongs on WTF or EWWW | /r/MensRights | 14/09/09 06:30 AM |
| 2 | This is how I feel about the black female who won the race.I don't know, I'm not a doctor and what I read of the case did not get into specifics of hormone levels. I understood that it was "more than baseline testosterone levels expected for a female." But I don't know if it is also "as much as an average male". | /r/MensRights | 13/09/09 04:10 AM |
| 0 | This is how I feel about the black female who won the race.In the wrestling analogy, (s)he would need to wrestle the men in her own weight class. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/09 03:39 AM |
| 1 | This is how I feel about the black female who won the race.The person can compete as a male. She has male sex organs, which produce male hormones, which promotes muscle growth, which leads to being faster, in general. Seems fair to me. Not optimal, but fair. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/09 03:07 AM |
| 1 | This is how I feel about the black female who won the race.rhythmic? | /r/MensRights | 13/09/09 03:04 AM |
| 0 | The Masturbation Double-StandardYawn. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/09 12:37 AM |
| -1 | Why television men are dopes: "When you make fun of a white, Anglo-Saxon male, husband, dad, you don't get a single letter of complaint." - let's change that.I'm prepared to go down with the ship. white men is the only group that concerns itself with others before it meets its own needs. I know you might think I'm completely backward and naive and unmodern in a Jimmy Stewart, It's-a-Wonderful-Life sort of way, but...concerning ourselves with others sounds like a really good start. The divisions between groups that we imagine, create, and encourage, only serve to lessen our own human potential. The less I imagine myself to be "different", the more com… | /r/MensRights | 12/09/09 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Why television men are dopes: "When you make fun of a white, Anglo-Saxon male, husband, dad, you don't get a single letter of complaint." - let's change that.anything that causes laughter is inevitably going to hurt someone's feelings. It's about time we all realized how cruel humor is. Imagine what a wonderful world we'll have when no one laughs, ever. | /r/MensRights | 12/09/09 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Why television men are dopes: "When you make fun of a white, Anglo-Saxon male, husband, dad, you don't get a single letter of complaint." - let's change that.mmmm.... football.... pancakes.... boooooobies.... | /r/MensRights | 12/09/09 05:26 PM |
| -2 | Why television men are dopes: "When you make fun of a white, Anglo-Saxon male, husband, dad, you don't get a single letter of complaint." - let's change that.We need more politically incorrect stuff in the vein of Monty Python and Mel Brooks. Perfect example: Mel Brooks' "Blazing Saddles" is totally centered on making fun of racism and racists. Its failing is that the "n-word" is featured heavily in the fist 15 minutes of the movie. I am afraid to even say the word, and this is on a board where no comment is complete without including the word FUCK. Imagine if a studio released that movie today. There would be protests in the streets, and calls for b… | /r/MensRights | 12/09/09 05:25 PM |
| 0 | Why television men are dopes: "When you make fun of a white, Anglo-Saxon male, husband, dad, you don't get a single letter of complaint." - let's change that.Everyone already is pissnig and moaning. I, for one, realize how far out of hand it's gotten. No way I will bitch if a white man is being depicted as silly or stupid in a tv program. | /r/MensRights | 12/09/09 05:19 PM |
| 5 | Innocent men permanently on restraining order registryIt's worse than this. If the accuser does show up, there is zero burden of proof. In the hearing when she granted the Petition for a Restraining Order against me, after hearing my lawyer's testimony addressing each of the claims, the judge said "Well, she does appear to be afraid of you." All the requestor has to do is put on an act. I refuted all of her accusations. There was no instigating incident, there was no evidence like a hospital report, a police response or arrest, or even a third-part… | /r/MensRights | 09/09/09 12:40 AM |
| 5 | Divorce Main Reason for male suicideI will tell you that the loss of spouse was heartbreaking, but the way the law sided with my lying, cheating wife, and took my kids from me, was the real heartbreaker. She alleged every damn thing you can imagine, short of sexual abuse of the children. I was "found guilty" of nothing - divorce is not a criminal proceeding - but regardless of the "proof", she convinced the judge I was a no good sonofabitch, and that was that. Yeah, the loss of my house, all my belongings, my wife and my kids - al… | /r/MensRights | 07/09/09 01:43 AM |
| 3 | Divorce Main Reason for male suicideBingo. No vagina tells the court you don't know how to shop for groceries, do homework with kids, make dinner. It's complete horsepucky, but it is absolutely the way it is. And the attorneys make money from dismantling marriages. Disgusting state of affairs. | /r/MensRights | 07/09/09 01:35 AM |
| 9 | As long as we deny men choices that women are allowed to take for granted, we will continue to see men marginalized and exploited.The Hey, wait a minute moment has already occurred for many people. hey, wait a minute. Why doesn't the father get equal custody? hey wait a minute, why is the protection order granted with no evidence? hey, wait a minute, why can he be evicted from his home? These things can be fixed with some very basic reforms. Nothing radical. How about - establish a burden of proof for cases of allegations of sexual abuse or physical abuse? How about, establish and enforce REAL penalties in cases of perjury… | /r/MensRights | 07/09/09 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Documents in the "Men's Rights Library" at ScribdI hate scribd. The usage model stinks. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/09 01:18 AM |
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