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No. Women are people just like men. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:31 AM
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The issue is if a man is attractive and wealthy, why would he pay for what he can get for free? It destroys the value proposition on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:47 AM
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“The men that frequent strip clubs / sex workers only offer money” 🤯 She’s taking her work which filters out men looking for relationships and chooses men looking to pay, then is shocked when the relationships are transactional or that the man’s primary method of initiation is financial. You can’t make this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:38 AM
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He’s teaching you to make more money as a part of his business model. It’s not valuing yourself as a person, it’s valuing yourself as an asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:34 AM
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You’re talking about tricks not men in general. You’re taking your work clients / Johns and thinking it represents normal men. It doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:32 AM
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I didn’t say sad pathetic. Where did I say that?. I said simple. Not extremely high cost, expensive flowers, expensive complicated items. You can have a nice classy wedding without having to spend crazy amounts or stress yourself out over insane details to impress people. Some people are happy with gold bands, but she wants a diamond. Not understanding or having good taste without needing to spend lots of money is a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:40 PM
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If men planned weddings, they’d usually be small simple and inexpensive. The reason weddings are expensive is because the bride wants a huge expensive party and he does most of the paying. It’s not some elaborate gift for the man that she plans for him. It’s for her. You think men really like flowers, diamond rings, fancy cakes, brides mates dresses… at those prices?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:56 PM
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He defers to what she wants. It’s a privilege to be the one that decides the house you buy. Just admit it and stop tap dancing. If estate agents said “if ignore the woman and sell to the man” because he’s the important one to convince, you’d call it misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:09 AM
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If you hear real estate agents talk they say to sell to the wife. If you can convince her about the house, the husband will go along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:10 AM
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What’s irritating is that anything that’s clearly a privilege, they are quick to reframe as not being one. Being the one that chooses how you want to spend money someone else earned is a huge privilege. Who’s the one that steers the wedding and has it tailored to her tastes? But they focus on picking out toilet paper like that’s hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:42 PM
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If men are really slacking off like they say, what are they doing while the wife is slaving away around the house? Is he kicking his feet up and going for a 12th round of Helldivers 2? Or is he at work coming home late, leaving early? It’s seriously going to consistently be okay for him to grab another beer and watch the game while she’s vacuuming, cleaning, cooking? That’s a feature of many houses? I’ve seen men from very traditional cultures (where is not normal) willingly take on house work w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:29 PM
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They also decide the house bought.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:19 PM
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It’s not that they aren’t interested in the space but still attend, it’s their behavior in the space. If a woman wants to attend a more male space, nothing wrong with that just be a good citizen. But when she is flirty with people she’s not even interested in, tries to get special treatment, complains about everything, tried to change the space to suit her, doesn’t contribute then complains when she isn’t treated like the people that do, that’s the issue but it would be an issue no matter who di…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:54 AM
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Says who? Where are the hobby police dictating these rules? Your “should” really is an “I want them to”. You don’t decide that for people but feel free to stick to it yourself. People can join hobbies for all kinds of reason. People take up golf because it’s a great way to network with people in business or join cigar clubs or other groups where a particular kind of person hangs out. People do things for a variety of good reasons beyond the surface level reason that is obvious. Many social activ…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:50 AM
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Why can’t both be true? Why can someone enjoy a hobby but also want to meet a woman through it. Why do you need to take such extremes? And then you add the negative framing of “going there to hit on women” … like that’s even fun thing guys love doing. Newsflash, there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing things to meet a potential partner. If someone joins a hobby group, is respectful of the space and tries to meet a partner in a decent manner, they aren’t doing anything wrong. If someone is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:43 AM
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Okay I’m talking to someone who disagrees with official definitions of words. This guy is in the same category who threatens violence if she refuses to you? Crazy talk and you just dilute what the words means. Coercion can now be making an offer. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:47 PM
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You think he was saying that on the apps? Or on his profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:40 PM
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Well then he made no threats and coercion didn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:27 PM
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Here is the definition of demand: “To ask for something forcefully, in a way that shows you do not expect to be refused” Where was he forcefully in his asking? In his request he specifically says that if she’s not okay with it we should go our separate ways. That’s a far cry from “not expecting to be refused” when he says what he feels they should do if she’s not okay with his request. Here is what yourself and others here are doing now and do often. When confronted with something you don’t like…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:18 PM
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I have nowhere said I think this will be successful or it is a good approach. I have said it’s honest. I think it is extreme after a date to feel that unless date 2 ends in sex, he should move on… but if that is how he thinks it’s better he let her know and there isn’t anything wrong with being honest about his position. If he is going to hang out at someone’s place it shouldn’t be wrong to have an honest discussion about sex if that’s what he wants. It’s more honest than going over, planning on…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:06 PM
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But if your example is coercion, these are all coercion too or is it okay as long as it’s non sexual? By your standards #4 is sexual coercion. He has to respond to her hints (even if he’s not ready) or she will reject him. Wouldn’t threatening to leave if he doesn’t marry, be financial coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:46 PM
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No it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:43 PM
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Men get his with ‘coerced’ like this too: - I’m going to hint, make eye contact but you must ask me out or I’ll lose interest. I won’t ask you. - I will offer to pay for my own food on the date but if you do, I will not see you again. - Take me someone expensive or no date - I will hint that I want you to go for a kiss/make a move and if you don’t, I’ll reject you. - propose to me or our relationship is over - Read my mind or I’ll be upset with you. In short “if you don’t give me what I want, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:19 PM
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What did he say that demanded sex? Asking for something is not demanding. You’re intentionally misusing that word to imply something. That’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:03 PM
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Definitely. The we have sex on the second date or I’m out signals low actual interest in her, but being that honest about how he feels gives her a chance to nope out. In “normal” dating, he would be expected to keep dating her, to make his love and then if he gets sex, he’d possibly still leave. She might say no, I don’t get physical so fast and suggest something else that he agree to or leave. It’s better around if everyone is upfront. It saves a lot of confusion and pretending but as is clear …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:02 PM
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What does that have to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:40 PM
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Due to social norms, what he’s done is considered weird (his delivery was weird) but if people were this upfront with each other, I think society would be in a better place. Even seducing someone involves both of you participating in something without openly acknowledging what you’re doing. This leaves so much grey area for things to go wrong, bad actors, manipulation and consent issues. You don’t come over to “have sex” you come over to Netflix and chill but what if the other person just wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:39 PM
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What I realize is the ball has to always be in the man’s court. If he does anything to pass some of the responsibility back to her, they will complain and find a way to point fingers at the man. Even though it’s against cultural norms, he is very right to clarify what they are planning tonight. Sure he could use the voice memo to claim she was interested in sex before forcing himself on her… but he could also use them to absolve himself of guilt if he didn’t. The people here talking consent, are…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:32 PM
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He didn’t demand anything he asked. Where did he shout, say I’m entitled to x, you better give me x now? You’re lying. There was no demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:02 PM
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I think the way he delivered it wasn’t the best but dating would be in a way better place if people were upfront about their feelings and desires. Instead we have a convoluted game where you can actually want to have sex, plan to have sex but aren’t allowed to actually talk about it until you’re about to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:01 PM
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One man’s actions proves things about 4 Billion men? 🤔 Would you like me to generalize women like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:58 PM
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No it is very tone deaf and a turn off but the actual proposition in the message isn’t wrong. If we’re not having sex when I come over I don’t want to continue our relationship. Men get his with ‘agreements’ like this too: - I’m going to hint, make eye contact but you must ask me out or I’ll lose interest. I won’t ask you. - I will offer to pay for my own food on the date but if you do, I will not see you again. - Take me someone expensive or no date - I will hint that I want you to go for a kis…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:56 PM
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He didn’t demand anything. He asked politely. Why would anyone “enforce consent”? There is nothing wrong with both being in the same page about sex before going over but still having to listen if she says “no”. Enthusiastic consent was the standard a second ago, but now he asks her to be clear, it’s “enforcement”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:47 PM
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You can pre give consent! But you can also change your mind. Saying “I’m down to have sex tonight is consent but doesn’t mean you HAVE to follow through”. Ironically going over to “Netflix and chill” then expecting him to make a move because you have given hints, or him trying to see how far things can go is FAR less honest and gives room to far less explicitly consensual situations than this. What I think you don’t like is he is being very upfront in a way that avoids most of dating ambiguity. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:43 PM
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Yeah and they have it worse than western women in terms of the core metrics they would measure for equality. Saw a video of a Japanese woman being asked about man vs bear and she laughed, said it was a dumb question and said of course a man. A lot of the hate towards “men” is programmed through radfem ideology because they can’t seem to distinguish the difference between men and the small who set government policy or the small percent that are violent towards women. Men are all one cohesive mass…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:48 AM
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The fact that her messaging towards men consisted of that and not at all addressing their current issues is the point. Actual porn access isn’t. It’s a condescending insulting message to send towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:00 AM
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Therapy can be useful but you have to find the right one and that’s hard, especially with no help or guidance. Especially for the issues that men face. Some issues also can’t be fixed with therapy they require action, solutions, help, resources or just accepting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:40 PM
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The left actually tries to address these issues but it’s honest enough to admit it’s difficult. The right just lies and says vote for us, we’ll build a wall and make America great. The lie is more appealing than the truth as you can’t tell which is which till much later.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:38 PM
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You didn’t see her ad campaign that consisted of “you’ll lose your porn and not get laid sex… vote for me”. It was condescending and insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:35 PM
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I’d best most of the men on the left are 50+ and got out of the dating and economic landscape we’re in now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:33 PM
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Yep. He never gets called a deadbeat right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:42 PM
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The amount of delusional takes on men’s lives is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:41 PM
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The anxieties men face around sex aren’t as acute as the danger of being with someone that can harm them but they’re still there. He usually has to initiate when the signals aren’t clear, performance anxiety ,at the back of his mind has to be careful this isn’t a woman that will turn around and accuse them of something they didn’t do. The pressure of having to make the approach, is not fun. It’s a source of stress self doubt and feeling like a failure when the anxiety gets hold of you. And your …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:30 PM
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There are attractive women without makeup. If you need makeup to look nice, it’s because you naturally aren’t that attractive. It’s like a guy saying he needs shoe lifts to be tall. He just isn’t naturally tall so does things to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:25 PM
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They don’t have to put on make up. They do it to look more attractive but they don’t have to do it. Women that are naturally attractive don’t need it at all. It’s like a guy saying he “needs” to put shoe lifts in or do steroids to date. No you are trying to compensate for things you don’t naturally have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:22 PM
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You fall in love with someone when you are both younger and grow old together. You build familiarity, trust, comfort, go through things together, have children and you both change. I think the connection you build counteracts aging and goes above what a younger body could offer, so greying hair, aging skin, changing body shape don’t change the person you see. The man is also aging, losing hair, looking older and she has to love him despite him not looking the way he did 20 years ago. Aging and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:17 PM
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Your “illustrative example” is completely useless. I’m even more sorry you don’t know how to effectively make or use one. The guy says “the women in my life are like X”. You uselessly reply “well I’m not like X”… you’re not in his life and you obviously don’t know what his life is like. He will likely never meet you. You took his comment to make it about yourself, as if you’re the entirety of femininity which you aren’t. Then you devolve in to personal attack at me because “I must not have been …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:24 AM
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Guy makes a generalization about his experiences with multiple women, you make it about you, like every woman is you. It makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:22 PM
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The replies to this are frustrating. Can’t even acknowledge a simple observable truth. Nothing but topic changing, trauma dumping, irrelevant replies and accusations. This sub proves that conversations are pointless when one side argues in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:49 AM
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When you look at money and see the amount as “getting more / less” you’ve already lost. You have a mindset that isn’t compatible with family. She births the children because she’s the only one that can. From that she gets her own children. That’s worth more than a monetary amount. She does not have to do more child care. He could scale back his work hours and dedicate more time to child care. A lot of women won’t take this deal. I saw one poster who said she resented that her husband had grown c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:36 PM
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OP claims to what a man that makes more money because she does more housework. Regardless of how much housework is don’t, she’d want someone that earns more. It’s all BS to distract that she wants a high earning man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:42 PM
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That can be true but she can also lose respect for him when she becomes the bread winner and makes more. Some start looking for a higher earner once they make more. The dysfunction can come from either or both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:35 PM
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Are the majority of those men able to run a household? Can they clean up to the women’s standards, cook, grocery shop, maintain the children etc? I’d argue a lot of them can’t. You’re acting like men somehow can’t live on their own. When you actually ask married men, it’s nothing to do with “standards” she just wants things done her way. She wants the towels folded the way she likes, the house decorated according to her tastes etc. It’s not “standards” it’s what pleases her. Plus for women who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:32 PM
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“The difference is down to the amount of housework they do!” What complete BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:26 PM
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I don’t really mind flowers. I don’t particularly like them but I appreciate someone doing something kind.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/05/26 11:03 PM
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Yes of course they can but they generally don’t date men of lower status. Status is only an asset if you’re willing to share it with someone that has less. It is less useful when trying to marry up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:38 PM
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Lesbians get to experience how other women can be toxic and express it in ways that most men would be gaslit or told to be quiet. The male role in relationships isn’t at all fun or privilege and power like some would frame it. Sometimes it’s obligation, expectation, judgement, pressure and heart break. All of these things are unacknowledged and endured in silence.
/r/Divorce_Men10/05/26 10:52 PM
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The discounting of your contributions, while overvaluing hers.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/26 09:06 AM
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Even better how about they do some of the approaching. It’s ridiculous they both want to sit back and let men do the difficult parts but then criticize men for something they’re too afraid to do. Great post!
/r/MensRights02/05/26 09:05 PM
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The chance of the man doing that is rare. The bear is also capable of prolonged forms of torture or killing you slowly. I saw a bear skin a fish before eating it. They might eat you alive slowly. You’ve looked at possible outcomes like winning the lottery and being struck by lighting but not what is probable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 12:18 AM
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How do you know good men aren’t worried about stories that generalize them as being bad? Did you perform a survey or just make that up to validate a point with no actual foundation?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 09:57 PM
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Men don’t “get sex from women”. Women don’t lose a finite amount of sex each time they have it with a man and the man doesn’t still have a piece of a physical quantity called ‘sex’, when he leaves. It’s a shared experience. Women actually want to have sex too and start complaining if men don’t pursue them. Let a husband stop initiating with his wife and see how she takes it. Men and women have sex WITH each other and both want it. Men being the ones that are responsible for perusing, gives the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:37 AM
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OP could write the new script for Harry Potter. Pure fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 02:15 PM
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Nobody said anything about needing a precise percentage. That’s something you said. But you can observe it from most comment sections that there is far more positive attention to women from men than negative. Morbidly obese women can post in the right places and be fawned over. But if you want to make the claim that it’s a huge amount of men you need to prove it. You’re the one making the assertion, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:50 PM
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Else where you were corrected that women receive way more positive fawning comments from men than critical or insulting comments. Run to almost any IG comments section and see for yourself. You’re working hard to paint a picture that isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:48 PM
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I’m not interested in “winning” I’m interested in being accurate. Your statement is an invalid generalization, unless you believe is fair for women to generally be smeared with the same brush as the worst of women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:36 PM
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For you to say “not all men” you’re implying that it’s lots of men but there are a few that don’t. It’s a very small proportion of men for you to be making someone kind of generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:08 PM
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No it’s “barely any men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:03 PM
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I think the online bashing of single mothers is too black and white. There are some great single mothers out there that got unlucky, done dirty, divorced, betrayed by a guy, made a dumb choice etc and work really hard to provide a good life for their kids. The other extreme is an irresponsible woman that is frivolous with who she has kids with, even if she finds a good guy, she’s gonna have a kid, ruin the relationship and move on to her next victim. She’s selfish, doesn’t really care about the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:11 PM
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Yeah exactly. She’s not even responding to what’s being said. She’s taking the worst interpretation of people’s words and attacking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:16 PM
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Yes she does. The rest of her comments show she’s a man hating lunatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:58 PM
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There are probably as many crappy women as there are crappy men. The thing that creates the imbalance in dating, is men making the first move almost exclusively. Women receive a disproportionate amount of attention and validation, compared to men, because they can sit back and expect offers to come in. It’s an entitlement. Men being responsible for asking and being rejected forces them to lower their standards so telling them to just have standards isn’t going to fix that. Especially in the age …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:35 AM
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It depends. Teasing is fun and a good way to build friendship. Putting someone down is a sign to not engage with them at all. Cruelty shouldn’t be tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:02 AM
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They will refuse to abandon those ideas and concepts because those concepts point the finger at men exclusively for the problems in society. In reality is not “men” is can be a very small group of usually men, or the culture, the pressures of survival, or any any other number of factors shaping things. If they can frame reality as men collectively being at fault, they can push for change without having to participate in men’s struggles. They can then push for equality selectively where it benefi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 06:57 AM
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What do babies produce? 🤔
/r/EverydayMisandry16/02/26 03:59 PM
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This is the same garbage that comes up with discussions about men expressing their emotions. There is absolutely zero evidence this guy cornered her and yelled his feelings in to her face for 30 mins. You’re framing the discussion like this to avoid dealing with any criticism. It’s dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:11 PM
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Unfortunately it’s completely wrong.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/26 07:25 AM
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Not gonna happen. If there is any revolution, it will be over the worsening socio economic issues that society faces as a whole. Seriously what are men to revolt over? They want girlfriends? Men generally don’t organize or advocate for issues that exclusively affect them.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/26 07:23 AM
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It doesn’t really address the issue that men face at all infact it reaffirms the ideas that make men end up looking for answers in places like the red pill. You assume that women are simply good people and the issues must totally lie with men. Women can’t be wrong at all and any issues men have with women must actually be men’s fault. This idea is part of why men have gone online to look for answers or to share experiences with other men who have the same issues keep happening This idealized vie…
/r/ExRedPill13/02/26 07:19 AM
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Online way too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:46 AM
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This is exactly it. Then men are called entitled. They can’t conceive of actually making the same effort a man makes to make him feel wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:37 AM
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Why is it exclusively on the man to court and pursue? Aren’t those things she should do as well? Shouldn’t she be making an effort to make him feel desired as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:36 AM
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Were there any signs she was going to do this?
/r/MensRights07/02/26 09:33 PM
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That was such a painful, completely missing the point read. She just reframed and ignored your valid concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:47 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7r-tOYvBFO4 She did 36 dates in a year, spoke to 233 men and swiped on who knows how many.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:27 AM
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More likes in a day than you’ve ever had in your life. Just saw a video of one woman who was pretty average. She’s been on 36 dates in a year, spoke to 200 guys and swiped left on who knows how many. She still couldn’t find anyone. Imagine a really attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:23 AM
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This is the exact problem we only get two choices and both of them are controlled by the same financial interests. So we get small wins in tiny issues but on the things that really affect our quality of life, not much change.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 07:05 PM
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It the classic redefining words so they aren’t/are applicable in situations that are inconvenient to their cause. One word they don’t like takes on an extremely strict meaning so it is can never be applied, while the word they like can be applied liberally. I just simply reject their redefinition of words so they can’t stack the deck in their favor.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 06:56 PM
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By that metric, most men are financially stable. Even more so than women right? It’s soft language for “someone that earns a lot more than me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:18 PM
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My problem is equating this to“good” and then saying “there aren’t many good men”. There are lots of morally good men and of nice men but very few that meet her standards, which have little to do with being a good person. So she acts like men are mostly wicked people. That’s not true. She could say there aren’t many rich, handsome, very successful men, that spend money on her for just existing, only have eyes for her. Everyone would be able to say “yeah, of course, why do you think there would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:13 PM
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Well just look at her last paragraph “financially stable… generous” that’s indirectly saying “someone that makes a lot of money and will spend it on me”. It has nothing to do with moral character.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:12 PM
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Financially stable = Financially in the top 10%. Generous = will spend it on her. Fun to be with = constant source of novelty, emotions, and surprises (ie spending money on surprises) Kind = does things for her and gives things to her She’s being vague and acting like they are small asks but actually if you were to ask her to be more specific, she’d end up describing someone way out beyond what she offers. If he were earning average wage, gives to charity, loves gaming and babysits for the neigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:48 PM
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I think there is way more to it than that and you’re showing how you think men value you only based on your looks, which isn’t true. He said men will always prefer the looks of women in their 20s. That’s pretty much true. For the most part women (and men) look better in their 20s. That doesn’t mean that that’s the entirety of a woman’s value proposition to a man at all. He might marry a woman and love her in ways a superficial glance at a younger woman could never replace. Men have the range of …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:45 PM
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That’s just complete nonsense. You’re expecting people to value what you value and judging them when they don’t… despite you not valuing what they value. Ironic. The 41 year old has every right to value the 29 year olds relative youth, intellect, lack of baggage, personal values, fertility and other things over an extra decade of “life experience” which could just as well be doing the exact same things for another 10 years and never growing. The most pathetic thing here is your inability to acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:28 PM
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All you’ve said is that your response is based on emotion not any form of logic or reason. If you can’t keep your feelings in check and match them with the idea that people who are of age, making informed decisions and might be in healthy relationships, that’s a problem with how you think not what you’re observing. You have every right to your feelings but don’t expect people to at all take them seriously when they aren’t based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:13 PM
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Any time men find alternatives to dating a particular group of women, there are complaints. Age gaps, sex robots, dating another race, watching adult content or going abroad. It’s all the same, there will be people ready to shame you in to constraining your choices to them while they enjoy the broadest selection of men possible and encourage the complete opposite behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:56 PM
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Probably but the way women choose men and have influenced the dating market based on their preferences has made them very likely to choose bad men. If a woman can disregard a man for answering her text messages to quickly or because he’s too “nice”, she’s gonna end up with a bunch of men who are the opposite and she can’t complain about that. Some men are covert jerks but it’s the ones who are overt assholes who seem to be being picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 04:14 PM
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The other side of the coin is that purity culture is pretty harmful. People end up getting married to the wrong person, or have hang ups after years of suppressing their sexuality. Extreme promiscuity and purity culture both have big problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:32 PM
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For some they liked a guy who was a challenge, wasn’t too in to them, was a bit of a bad boy, made the first move early, had lots of other women interested in him, said all the right things… the are surprised when he turns out to not be actually in to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:22 PM
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There are sex pats and there are guys that go somewhere else looking for a wife. Some of these women had to correct some of the misconceptions that they’re all broke and uneducated, destitute and begging when many have degrees come from good families and have their own careers. A lot of this is really fake concern when in reality you just don’t like men that you have rejected having other options or finding happiness elsewhere. The guys that get married are looking for someone with cultural valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:03 PM
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This exactly addresses your post. If you can dismiss a guy for being “too nice”, responding to text messages too fast, being too in to you, not passing unfair ‘tests’ that are only really navigable if he doesn’t really like you, not making a move soon enough (while a guy that likes you is more cautious) etc you’re actively screening out good men. Some icks are so nonsensical or counter to what you say you want. If you can’t be friends with a guy before dating him, you’ve actively filtered agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:44 AM
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They’re just assuming the husband does nothing around the house while the wife is slaving away. He’s either also doing chores or working longer hours so she doesn’t have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:54 PM
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The also act as if the husband does nothing around the house. It’s just made up. He does chores too and when he’s not he’s working longer hours than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:53 PM
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Even worse it drives boys in to the hands of guys like Andrew Tate. Once they see through the lies and see that while boys can be awful, so can girls, they end up siding with the person that told them something like that all along.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 10:54 PM
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They types of women saying this online all have the “mean girl” persona. What they’re saying has nothing to do with facts, it’s designed to lower the self esteem of men. After man vs bear, “toxic masculinity” and whatever trend of day there is, they’re just putting men down because it makes themselves feel good.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 09:21 AM
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My concern isn’t that there are bad takes, it’s that there are highly influencing figures that can spread bad ideas that are uncritically accepted. The amount of “feminine energy” influencing coaches who are celebrated for promoting harmful ideas is really concerning. They’re like Fresh and Fit or Andrew Tate but have zero pushback or exposure. This kind of crap also need to be in the news.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:02 AM
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I don’t think it’s conservative ideals, they just want men to act in ways that benefit them at their his own expense. Men pursuing and paying for dates from a woman who is seeing multiple other men isn’t traditional. It’s not conservative, they just want to extract that part of tradition because it makes their lives easier. They somehow aren’t influenced by the traditions around chastity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:17 AM
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Friendships won’t replace the need for a romantic connection and the reverse is true too. This lie is going to blow up in people’s faces when they’ve squandered their time to find a partner and realize their friends can’t give them what they need and are too busy raising their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:36 PM
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A lot of men’s behavior is a result of having to almost exclusively make the first move. If that expectation went away, a lot of the desperation would too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:33 PM
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A huge differentiator is that men have to make the first move. They have to openly express their desire, court and pay, while women don’t. She could easily have a very successful dating life and never make the first move. This may have made sense before the push for equality and the changes in societal attitudes but now it’s caused imbalance in dating. Dating apps have made this even worse. At every level of attractiveness, women receive more offers than their male counterparts which leads to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:29 PM
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Men might be on a technical level as attractive as a woman (facial symmetry, features, etc) but what makes a man “beautiful” at things that only a small percentage of men have. A woman can be short or tall and still hot in photos. A man has to be in a high percentile of height to be hot. The things that a man could have to compensate for not being exceptional can’t be displayed on an app. Apps give women the home court advantage by appealing to a strength (looks), in addition to the fact that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:06 PM
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If you removed the requirement that men make the first move while women can sit back and mostly let their options present themselves. She can be socially inept, never make the first move but still have a very successful dating life compared to a guy who on paper is better. Women’s relationship lives are so easy compared to men’s that they can believe that “when you stop looking it will come to you”. That’s because men are the ones doing all of the looking and approaching. They really think you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 09:59 PM
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You attack the weakest thing he said but won’t touch the rest of it…. because you know he’s mostly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 11:09 PM
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They’re just so frustrating to talk to. Every trick I. The book to distract from talking about the point. It’s exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 11:06 PM
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If you really worried about that you’d be completely fine with bringing back chaperones, going somewhere moderate and buying your own food till trust is established. It is a valid issue but you’re using it as a smoke screen to distract from the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 11:05 PM
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This is a typical silly response. He’s making generalizations to explain general behavior. You take offense and instead of addressing his point, make a personal attack by implying he’s just undesirable. His personal desirability has nothing to do with the conversation. Who is we? You don’t know his dating life. How can you not be choosing someone you don’t even know? Pure foolishness on your part. His point is very valid. Women do intentionally take the passive role in dating so they don’t have …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:58 PM
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Every single paragraph is complete bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:53 PM
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Men aren’t punished for seeking emotional closeness. We just socialize differently and don’t form close bonds without doing things together. That is increasingly difficult in an atomized society. Also “hegemonic masculinity” 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:45 PM
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Can we call them women? “Females” is just so clinical and disrespectful. It’s like you’re talking about an animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:38 PM
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A major driving force for a man working extremely hard and achieving is to share it with a family. That’s a far more noble cause than self satisfaction or to impress/compete with other people. Working hard to contribute to a family and society does far more good than living mainly for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:36 PM
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The thing that shocks me is how indifferent men are becoming. I never expected a time where men just weren’t interested in women. They have a bit of a captive audience and could do almost anything while still having men there. Take the nightclub scene which treats men like garbage but men still went along with it because some were there. Now the incredibly low ROI. I didn’t guess that men would just lose interest because the messaging towards them was so hostile and the rewards for their effort …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:41 PM
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That’s not really true. They aren’t a business looking. For maximal profit from the most amount of customers, they are looking for one customer. If a person dating overvalues themself, they may get people that want to investigate what they have to offer but they won’t buy ie “marry” the person. The real marriage offers might have been from people who were priced out of entry (weren’t tall, rich, successful enough or they expected an instant spark and passed on them for someone that seemed more e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:54 PM
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The first problem with what you have written is you think a “Manhattan 10” has the right to be entitled. She doesn’t. This is part of the foundational issue with dating. A woman that is extremely attractive gets to expect a huge amount of investment and effort. Being beautiful does not entitle her to that. It will get her lots of offers but men as a whole sold the farm when they started competing with each other to ridiculous degrees, giving away things undeserved and disrespecting their own val…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:43 PM
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Wouldn’t they be avoiding dicks as much as possible and actually be trans?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 11:01 PM
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In this context, a man violating a woman implies he physically assaulted her, or forced himself on her. If you pointed at a man and said “he violated me” everyone would have a way worse image in their heads than sending an unwanted picture. You’re blurring the lines of by using the same word that can be used to describe rape to describe something that is just disgusting. You can’t read their minds. I’d bet the majority of men who send them aren’t trying to dominate you, they’re trying to arouse …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:19 PM
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The premise of the original post wasn’t that women need to just exist. The title literally says women won’t admit it’s easier. That’s the focus of the conversation, not the straw man you’ve erected and even then failed to demolish. In your world, you can just put up a post “signaling” you’re available and be genuinely shocked men aren’t flocking to meet you. That’s way easier than it is for men. You’re proving OP right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:50 PM
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Why are they easier for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:44 PM
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Violated is a pretty strong word for receiving a picture you don’t want. Almost things you list are a result of male biology vs female biology. Men are physically stronger so are more dangerous, or their biology confers not having certain concerns. These things can’t be changed or at best can be mitigated through strict rules around dating. But women would oppose those same rules. The issues men raise are a result of the social roles in dating. There isn’t a good reason for men to be expected to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:43 PM
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To make your point you have to compare men at the top to women at the bottom. You have to compare like for like. You have to compare a male 10 to a female 10 and a male 4 to a female 4. At all levels, the woman has it far easier. Her opportunities come to her. In your example, the man actually had to build a social circle and has to go out of his own space to make things happen. In your complaint, you complain about leaving a vague message up on Facebook… but you don’t actually do the work of in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:21 PM
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You’re extremely likely to get matches from men who are below, equal to and above your looks level in online dating. That’s mostly not true for men. Unless the guy is extremely attractive, most of his matches will be way below him, bots, scams or flakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:10 PM
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But they didn’t land the job with one reply. If they did, they would be taking it out of desperation as it’s the only thing available.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:04 PM
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Which one will have an easier time finding someone that they like, someone that has 20 resumes land on their desk and they can screen out who they want and don’t want or someone that has to send out 20 resumes and many never get a response. You know it’s the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:03 PM
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They’re on inceltears. The first woman that looks their way IS the love of their life even if they’re incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:02 PM
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Explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:59 PM
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They’re likely dating older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:53 PM
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I can’t blame some women in the slightest for taking extreme opinions or being radicalized. Men can be terrible and society does acknowledge that. I think the big difference is that outside of some of these online circles, you will be shunned for at all bringing up how women might do things to men that cause immense pain or how Soviet often isn’t fair towards men too. I think a lot of this redpill stuff would go away if society had open and honest discussions about this stuff, but because they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:42 PM
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No. It’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:16 PM
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The other problem is if she does choose the 7 who is in many ways better than her, she still thinks she settled. The marriage has her resentful that her husband isn’t perfect, when she has more flaws than him. The current dating dynamic is creating women who believe they have way more options than they actually do and when they get a good ‘deal’ they aren’t satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:38 PM
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I think it can be both but now the guy has no idea what she means. Some women bring up other men, to try and make him feel jealous not knowing it’s a complete turn off. Others bring up other men who are the polar opposite of you seemingly as a way to let you know you don’t match up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:16 PM
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The problem with this is after enough rejection and disinterest, you can become over calibrated for rejection and miss opportunities as some women are clueless at signaling interest. I don’t even think it’s a guys job to just keep putting himself out there, it’s just a symptom of a very broken dating dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:10 PM
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Where? I pretty much only see radfem/TERFs criticize mainstream but never see much else on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:51 AM
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Women also don’t love each other but they do support each other against men and percieve other women as better than men by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:36 AM
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No. It just seems as if you like making points that are obviously wrong and don’t want them challenged.
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/25 06:23 PM
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You can be so “mature” it makes you stupid. If the person you are relating to doesn’t show any of it back, it’s a complete waste of effort and makes things worse.
/r/Divorce_Men31/03/25 11:08 PM
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“Let go of what she’s doing and focus on your self” If you have to do that, what the point of being married.
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/25 09:53 PM
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It’s exactly why marriage doesn’t really work. They call it “commitment” but it’s confinement. You can’t leave anymore so I don’t have to try. Commitment means working hard not slacking off.
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/25 02:51 PM
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It’s so selfish. Shouldn’t the fact that they’re married, motivate her to try even harder than when she’s single?
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/25 12:11 PM
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You have no idea how he did it. He could have done so considerately. She may resent it but it’s an important part of the relationship. What if her husband just resented the things she complained about so didn’t do them? How will a marriage ever work? Only doing it now that the relationship is over is selfish on her part. She can make an effort to attract a new guy but doesn’t care once he’s committed. Deep down she knows it’s something that’s important but doesn’t try now that her husband has to…
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/25 12:10 PM
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The only time women who think like that approach is if the guy is just so far out of the range of options they have and has way more to offer her than she has to him. Some women can walk up to a guy they like, start a conversation, say something funny but it’s just rare that women have those social skills or that courage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:51 AM
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Starting a conversation isn’t even being assertive. Neither does that make you unsubmissive. When most men say submissive I think they just mean someone that’s easy to get along with. Being able to say hi and express interest is not at all opposed to that. You’re just making false equivalencies to obscure the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:45 AM
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I approached him and he used me for sex then moved on to one of his million other choices 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:43 AM
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That’s because it’s so abnormal. Alsoby assertive we don’t mean pushy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:41 AM
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What kind of dumb logic is this?
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/25 01:15 AM
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He should have made his mind up, hired his lawyer and got the drop on her because she will likely get the drop on him.
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/25 12:21 AM
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Guys keep asking out because they have to ask out to have a viable dating strategy. Your daughters don’t have to ask anyone out to still have options. That’s why the guys keep asking them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:42 AM
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It’s a way of shifting the blame entirely on men. Whenever something is wrong, there is a man somewhere to blame for it. In reality women being more picky is a good thing in some ways, it does filter out some bad men but a lot of good men get left behind too. Some become bitter or develop negative coping strategies after enough rejection. As always ideas like this put women on a pedestal of being completely right, while men are considered completely wrong. It’s not a realistic guess at how the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:01 PM
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I don’t think this will happen by a movement pushing this idea on me to do so. It will happen because the rewards for all of this just aren’t worth it. A lot of men just seem turned off by dating as it’s high cost, high effort, low likelihood of success. It’s funny to see videos about singles meetups where men have just stopped going. You read the comments and men say “why would I go, be charged double what the women want only to be ignored?” I think the nightlife industry is also in a decline. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:05 PM
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Equity Feminists aren’t real feminists. Only your true form of feminism is feminism. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:19 PM
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Ah the “no true feminist” fallacy. You are a true feminist. If this is really the case why are the real feminists correcting the fake ones? Why does equality come up so much if it’s not a core tenet? Saying a system of oppression backfires by having a person advocate for harming a group and then by accident end up in that group is a nonsensical comparison. Firstly the onerous healthcare costs are the reason they ended up becoming homeless, not the policies they implemented towards the homeless. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:31 PM
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Part of the issue with this idea is that women generally marry their financial equals or above. When having a child it makes sense for the person earning more to continue working to lessen the financial hit while the person earning less do child care. Even if they earn the same, she’s just carried a child for 9 months. May be post partum. It’s insane for a guy to send her back to work while he does the majority of the child care. Either way, the man ends up focusing on work while she focuses on …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:57 PM
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This is complete nonsense. I’d bet 99% of feminists would say feminism is about equality. You’ve just conveniently redefined the word to suit your needs. You will never actually argue with the feminists that say it is about equality, you’ll simply use this new definition here and then go quiet around the 99%. Systems of oppression do not backfire. What you call “the patriarchy” is a misrepresentation of society to further your goals of cherry picking the benefits men have without the responsibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:48 PM
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Not everyone is what you’d consider smart then. That’s still lots of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:27 PM
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Which parts worked out for you? Are there any parts you ignored?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:20 PM
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No it’s lowering yourself and trying to earn a woman’s attention by doing things she doesn’t deserve. It’s being a complete doormat and letting her use you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:08 PM
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There are some awful channels about there that teach some really cruel manipulative garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:06 PM
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I think some people use “negging” in a way that just hurtful or cruel. I don’t think there is anything wrong with teasing someone just don’t be a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:05 PM
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If she’s incentivized to leave, I’m incentivized to collect alimony.
/r/Divorce_Men02/03/25 11:45 PM
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Add to that women now have pretty much told men they don’t want to be approached while still expecting them to approach. Man vs Bear, the Gillette ad (not cool bro), being told that anywhere you can naturally meet women (gym, work, the store she works at) are off limits. Women think men don’t listen. Not true. The decent men hear the message loud and clear so are now more likely to leave you alone. The guys that don’t care won’t listen one bit and will keep approaching. The ideal guy for a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 02:33 AM
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Yeah. It’s really baffling. I don’t think women realize how their preferences filter out a lot of good men. It often comes down to them not wanting to do the difficult work of risking being rejected. Then they filter out guy friends (unless he’s super attractive) because once she sees him as a friend, she doesn’t want to date him. This is the opposite of decent guys. They may think you’re cute or not even realize how attractive you are until they get to know you but that attraction is way deeper…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:40 PM
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When you are in the masculine role to do feel more or less powerful? The masculine role ‘looks’ more powerful but in actuality is high pressure and the woman is really the one in control. He has to jump through the hoops she sets, at the right time or she loses interest. Men sometimes look powerful, but are actually subservient to a set of expectations and pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:23 PM
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This is how women end up consistently choosing men that “want one thing”. If guys that aren’t pushy physically are left alone, all you get is men that are primarily sexually interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:20 PM
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They have it easier than men but still don’t like it. A woman dating a woman hasn’t put her into the “man” box with quite all of the male expectations or negative connotations of what a man is. She’s not a physical threat, not expected to pay, can be understood if she doesn’t quite tick all of the expectations… and still isn’t good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:16 AM
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Also you need to consider that this avoidance of rejection results in women dating the men they complain about. The type of guy that goes for a kiss on date 1, is likely primarily interested in you physically and not on a deep level. The type of guy that waits until he’s emotionally attracted to you is as rejected. Women expect a lot of things that result in them dating men who have shallow interest in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:14 AM
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They shouldn’t lower their standards either. Turn down cheap housing and raise their standards so they can live in a mansion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:29 PM
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“Poor people need to be more picky about the mansions they buy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:31 PM
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Exactly. After a while guys just start spamming likes to see what hits because it makes no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:52 PM
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You don’t know that. Can crippled people just not be crippled if they choose so?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:52 PM
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But it seems like it might work so they try it. It’s an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:31 PM
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How do you know any man can?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:30 PM
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We’re talking about swiping where guys are willing to lower their standards and consider a broader range of women. That’s the more logical action compared to spending life alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:29 PM
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If you’re someone that’s getting a reasonable amount of matches you can do this. Most men can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:37 PM
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For guys that don’t get many matches, keeping their standards high means no dating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:35 PM
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The problem for men is that being the one that actively initiates, does the pursuing, makes the first move, does the courting etc puts a lot of pressure on you to lower your standards. If you have to deal with a lot of rejection, it can seem like feedback saying you have less options than you think. Conversely, women get the opposite and the feedback tells them to be picky, men on their level or better are a dime a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:40 PM
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Threads where men talk about women being abusive get locked frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:44 AM
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What else can someone do? Chain her to the sink and feed her scraps? 😧 Of course he’d have to provide for both of them. She can’t stay at home if she doesn’t have her needs taken care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:42 PM
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This is really the heart of the issue with modernity. “Men have to embrace their traditional roles or die out”. No expectation of women to make any concessions. They should keep modernity and all of the benefits, while men are expected to struggle even harder to achieve a traditional role that women compete with them in. It’s just not feasible. There have been times where women have made way more of an effort to express interest. Even now if a man is attractive enough, women can be very aggressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:57 PM
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I don’t see anything wrong with wanting to be desirable it’s just the dishonesty. If they had to admit that they were wearing provocative clothing to the gym, to get attention, people could call them out and question the appropriateness of their behavior. Instead they deny it and it’s become so normalized that we don’t acknowledge that clothing that form fitting is presenting your genitalia to the public. Because of this, the same behavior is passed down to younger women who aren’t mature enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:01 PM
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I don’t really think that’s true. Men and women validate each other. Being asked out is a form of validation and being accepted is also a form of validation. A man that never got a date 1000 years ago wouldn’t feel good about himself. The reason boys are struggling with becoming men is that access to the things men are valued for have been reduced by societal progress. Part of the issue is we have moved to a more equal society between the genders while still holding men to the same expectations …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 11:08 PM
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I genuinely don’t blame young women for leaning so heavily on their looks. When trying to figure out some kind of self worth, I think most people grab on whatever they can. Female beauty is such a super power relative to everything else whether that be intelligence, some kind of career, being a good person, moral values, etc that it would be impossible to resist. Conversely this also causes a lot of insecurity and harm as the standards become so high with everyone competing for this very visible…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:57 PM
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And let’s be clear, when men are attractive enough that women do shoot their shot, their behavior is abhorrent. Groping, sexual comments, pushiness, being forceful, not taking no for an answer, even attempts to get pregnant. Ask bouncers who work in clubs around celebrities. I don’t think it’s that women are morally way better than men, is that they can usually get what they want without having to put themselves out there and risk creeping out most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:03 PM
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We need better words to describe this because objectification means almost any form of interest nowadays. From a guy calling a woman beautiful or glancing her way, to the groper who makes lewd comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:53 PM
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And if you say anything about being careful where and when you show off your body, you are called a misogynist. Some of these young women grow up and it seems like a big part of their self esteem is based on sexual attention that they deny is at all sexual. They go to the gym in super thin spandex shorts rammed up their asshole and a sports bra but won’t admit that a big part of any they wear it is to be seen. The clothing manufacturers love it because they can just sell shorter, tighter, thinne…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:44 PM
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You really have to consider WHY online dating apps are majority men. Men are socially tasked with doing the looking, initiating and pursuing. If they aren’t acting, their options drop to zero. Why are men expected to do this? To protect women from experiencing overt rejection. Women have their options present themselves. A guy that likes her must show his hand first and initiate. To have dating options, she doesn’t need to do much actively. Guys constantly have to take the initiative while women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:53 PM
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Something he made up lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:14 AM
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Which advantages?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:48 PM
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I think the extent of the retaliation is just men losing interest in women and relationships. Just seeing they don’t derive much worth from them and not investing in them will really burst their bubbles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:47 PM
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What are you even taking about? Why are you asking me for stats on things I didn’t say? Every sentence is a new layer of irrelevant stupidity. Beyond refuting your idiocy is simply correcting your abysmal reading comprehension which I’m just not interested in doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:43 PM
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Choosing guys based on star sign. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:40 PM
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It really depends on who you’re talking to. If I were ever to use a phrase like that I’d be specifically talking about the persons character traits. Women seem to select for guys that display traits (obvious to other men) pointing him being a poor long term match. When they “choose better” they just ramp up their superficial criteria making things even worse. He has to be taller, richer, more successful, even more expensive dates, even more princess treatment for a woman he doesn’t know. In real…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:33 PM
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How many women spent $1000 just to take a picture with Chris Brown? Most guys can’t get a woman to split a coffee date without giving her the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:23 PM
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One thing the YouTube dating guru call ins showed is just how out of touch some women’s standards are. They’re choosing guys that have no reason to be attracted to them. Some are combinations obese, multiple kids by multiple guys, plain, boring, not good looking, broke etc but want the top 5% to give up their harems to be with them. It’s insanity. They won’t even try to meet him. He has to do all of the work. The problem with “better” is their standards just become more superficial, taller, rich…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:14 PM
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It women say that trait X in a man MAKES him attractive, as the person pursuing. Very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:26 PM
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But they want people to have more kids? 😂
/r/Divorce_Men03/02/25 11:54 PM
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How about they do some of the approaching now?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:56 PM
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Even when he’s not attracted. Some women don’t deal with being single and having a guy around them that doesn’t want them like that. She tries to normalize bf/gf stuff in a friendship. Just gotta tell her to kick rocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:25 AM
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Some women can be really good friends. Some can’t. The want boyfriend level benefits in a friendship. Just depends on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:02 AM
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A huge part of dating and relationships is the man pushing his emotions to the side to accommodate hers. First date, he has to ask, deal with multiple rejections, plan the date, pay, lead the conversation, take the initiative etc. he has to express his desire clearly while she can hide hers and respond. He has to take lots of emotional risks to make her feel safe and at the same time not show he is at all bothered by doing so. Then all of a sudden he’s asked to now do the opposite and show his v…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:52 AM
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Men just aren’t that calculating. Why would they bother making women they don’t want jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:35 AM
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Ah. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:25 AM
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I never thought it would happen but look at the numbers and hear that stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:24 AM
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What does this have to do specifically with feminism? There is lots wrong with feminism but I don’t think it’s really connected to dating choice. We need a new word to describe the common modern attitudes towards men and or society of which feminism would be a part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:50 PM
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Why did you match with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:46 PM
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I’ve heard both stories. Some enjoy being invisible, some are miserable once they realized that the guys they like don’t notice them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:45 PM
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I think a lot of men will opt out of dating and take a passive approach due to there being low rewards when they try. Whether it is high rate of rejections or low quality options to choose from. A lot of guys will opt out because there isn’t much out there. This will probably end up forcing the market to change. Older guys that see their friends get married see them in unfulfilling relationships with someone who doesn’t respect them, or get divorced and raked over the coals. A lot of men are coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:41 PM
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Which is fine and fair but for the guys to get zero attention in comparison? Her situation being worse makes the guys situations disappear?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:08 PM
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This is exactly true but I don’t think once a woman enters the range of having a relatively decent career compared to yours, it will matter as much to men as women. Men rarely have the option to marry up economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:55 PM
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They can’t admit even a little that women may be less committed to staying in a marriage, sometimes have poor relationship skills, don’t do the work they claim to, aren’t always the amazing partners they claim to be. If they do admit any of that it’s men’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:23 AM
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I love how they move the goalposts and won’t admit the obvious. Somehow women have no flaws or faults. Any data is always a reflection of how awful the man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:19 AM
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It’s an expectation the culture sets men comply with and women reinforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:13 PM
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“With sugaring everyone wins” No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:48 PM
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There is a video of a woman posing to take a photo with a bear and she’s scared out of her mind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/24 04:42 AM
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She can be very traditional but the meeting place isn’t traditional anymore. Unless you’re meeting at church, through connections or something, expecting a guy to adhere to traditional values when he has no idea if you do makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:11 PM
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If a man was meeting one woman he’d met or been introduced to in his local town, going on a few dates, meeting her father, before settling down in a short amount of time this would make sense. This isn’t how dating is being conducted anymore. Women are going on way more dates than men. Online dating gives women access to a lot of men, while not giving most men many more choices. There is an imbalance. Who was the woman who went on 40 dates in 40 days? Expecting men to go foot the bill for countl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:26 PM
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I’ve heard the same in that it’s really materialistic in the US compared to Europe. If a woman offers to split the bill and you take her up on it prepare to be blocked. It’s a shame tho. America has a lot of really hot women there. 🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:45 PM
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Firstly how can you call men stingy when you yourself are even more stingy? He’s expected to pay for BOTH of you. Him asking you to pay for just yourself is stingy? How? He’s not asking you to cover the entire bill like you are. Secondly what if the reason they are tight with their money is because they’ve been used for free food and reciprocal uninterested conversation repeatedly? If you’ve been used multiple times wouldn’t that make you wary of being used again? Or are only women allowed to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:31 PM
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Here is the problem, when a woman offers 90% of the time it’s a fake offer. If you take her up on it, prepare to be blocked. It’s nonsense. It’s fake and done to make her look polite. The real issue is that she’s offering to cover her self. She’s offering to not be a toddler and pay her own way for a guy she just met and that is seen as being generous. He has to by default do the asking and then pay for both of you. It’s garbage and this is coming from someone that doesn’t mind paying but I hate…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:29 PM
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This is complete nonsense and really a deflection from the core issue of holding men to “traditional” roles while women aren’t held to any of them and the world is also non traditional. When men question why a man should pay there is often no meaningful answer or they say the person that asked should pay (also the guy is expected to ask). When the mask slips a bit, they just outright say the man should pay. They can never answer why. The why is the issue as it permeates the rest of the relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:21 PM
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Yeah but women expecting that in a first date for some guy she met on tinder is a bit much. Someone you know and asked out, cool. I’d love to do that but when it’s the entry requirement to get a date, it’s nonsense and not even traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:46 PM
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How to dry a woman up instantly, discuss splitting the bill before. Having to haggle about this is such an unbelievable turn off that most men know it’s not an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:45 PM
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I think a lot of the messaging to single women, telling them that being single is way better and happier, is gonna blow up in their faces as they get older. The people that are actually happier single are probably wired that way but it’s not something that will work for everyone. Most people want romantic companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:34 PM
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Being a competent provider vs being a rich showboat are completely different. Either way men ARE judged on how much they make / their careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:27 PM
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It’s part of the lie women were told that men’s lives were all amazing and we were having an amazing time at work leaving the wife to do the boring stuff at home. Working for someone isn’t fulfilling. I think men found fulfillment in sharing what they had earned with a family they loved but the work itself wasn’t fulfilling. Other things in life matter way more. Modernity is adding men’s burdens to women and selling it as empowerment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:15 PM
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30 is not “the wall” as if you suddenly expire. There is hope. They say women are “happier” than men. Didn’t say they were happy. Men might be miserable and women slightly less miserable would qualify as “happier”. I just think most people would like to have someone in their life that’s a romantic partner that stays with them because they like being around them. I can’t get my head around why being single is being promoted as an amazing life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:10 PM
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“I haven’t experienced any of those things so I have no real sympathy…” That’s a completely useless sentiment to run the world on. “I have never had to deal with sexism so therefore I have no sympathy for women that do”. It doesn’t affect me, so it don’t care. Useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:13 PM
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If you were being honest, you’d admit that men are above women in some ways and below women in some ways. In areas of being cared for, not having to risk their safety (physical or emotional), having options (primarily a mother or primarily a worker), receiving sympathy, being seen as the one in the right in a relationship dispute, being loved intrinsically… women are above men. Men need to be elevated in ways too. All we are doing right now is bringing men down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:41 PM
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No he wasn’t. The case was sent back to the prosecutors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:26 PM
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I think men care about acceptance way more than sex. Sex can be part of acceptance but sex is not all men care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:26 PM
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The extremist groups offer some relief of their hurts instead of making them worse. They don’t realize these groups are extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:24 PM
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I think primarily, they are going to spaces that address the issues they have seen. When a guy grows up in an environment that validly points out how awful men can be to women, then does little to warn men that women can be also be awful in other ways, finding a place where people confirm some of the stuff you’ve seen and experienced is real is very alluring. A guy like Tate gives men validation of their experiences, a game plan for life then throws in some misogyny and male superiority. He’s an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:22 PM
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Feminism is such a broad label that it’s very hard to know what the person believes without investigating. I’ve heard some really reasonable feminists. Most of what makes it in to the mainstream is pretty dumb. A lot of women aren’t really aligned with the deeper points feminists make. They are all for a man expressing his emotions but if that man is their husband or boyfriend, their feminism quickly ends and they are extremely traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:05 PM
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Gutting NPR and leaving the world with Fox News is not anything like a win. If anything reinstating the fairness doctrine (that Regan abolished) would be ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:03 PM
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Short guy makes 1 mistake, the entire population must be awful 😂
/r/BlackPillScience10/12/24 10:41 AM
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Dry Dimension. 😂
/r/BlackPillScience10/12/24 10:40 AM
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I’m glad. I hope we can get to a phase where men’s and women’s struggles aren’t seen as antagonistic or in opposition to each other. It’s going to take work and time. There is a tendency on both sides to dismiss the other’s issues and pretend they don’t exist while their own are the real issue. It just makes things worse. Personally I think a lot of the infighting is due to wealth inequality putting strain on people in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:30 AM
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I feel like for women a heavy amount of pressure is placed on their looks (social media is a disaster for this) along with other personal pressures. It’s not an easy ride at all but I get the impression that women feel inherently deserving of someone loving them. This isn’t really a thing for men and if it’s there, life experiences beat it out of you. Depending on the guy, it can be a realization that you actually need to put in effort, so you work on yourself, your social skills, your looks and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:27 AM
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For men, love is earned. They generally have to do something (ask out, make the first move, pay for dates, risk rejection…) to be loved. Most men are not intrinsically loved and the moment they stop being useful is when they are discarded or ignored. The idea that a love or being wanted is even earnable is better than the default of being invisible so they will take it. Being great is a struggle of the top 0.01% most men are never going to be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:48 AM
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I think it’s a huge mistake to assume that male advocacy is blaming women. I also think the over use of “misandry” as a mirror image of misogyny is a mistake. Pointing out that discrepancies in the systems we live in against men, is an indicator that we aren’t quite living in the patriarchy that always privileges men and always harms women. Sometimes it does but often times there is more going on and sometimes, men get more rights that came with a heavy cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:38 PM
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I don’t think you can say these things are due to “misandry” in the same way you can’t say other things are purely misogyny. These are labels that are over used and imply intended harm by a system designed against you. What you can say is that these negative outcomes are indications that society isn’t just designed from the ground up with men’s interests in mind. You don’t see disparities like this against wealthy people. It’s a huge mistake to attribute everything to misogyny or misandry when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:34 PM
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It really depends on what you class as misandry. I’m not a fan of it becoming a word that is abused to the point of meaning nothing like misogyny has sometimes been. For the example you gave of Boko Haram. They would often kidnap the girls and kill the boys (we’re talking around 12 years old). We had international outcry about the girls but the boys didn’t even make the news. Is this misandry too? Men had more rights but also had more responsibilities. Whether that was to work (mostly strenuous …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:31 PM
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Almost all grass is green, so anything green is probably grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:08 PM
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I don’t completely believe in “choose better”. It can be fair in some cases when she has intentionally chosen a complete psycho because he’s exciting but at other times (I’d guess most), she chose someone that seemed decent. It comes across as dismissive and uncaring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:08 PM
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100% of war criminals are human… is everyone on the plant a war criminal? Are you? 100% of US presidents have been male… is every man the president? 99.9999% of cats have 4 legs… is everything with 4 legs a cat? 99% trees are all… is everything tall a tree? All chocolate ice cream is brown… is everything brown chocolate ice-cream? You see where I going right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:04 PM
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They can interpret them just fine when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:58 PM
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I’ve never seen the idea that women being mean to men makes them vote Trump. I’ve only seen that the left is anti male in a lot of ways and doesn’t seem to have any interest in men’s issues. It looks more like the economy is a bigger factor along with the forcing of ideas that people aren’t comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:44 PM
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Because you have an experience, other peoples different experiences are false. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:34 PM
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I also love the idea of threatening men who aren’t getting laid with even less sex. 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 10:36 PM
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Yep. I’m way more left than right leaning. Bernie would have been a great choice but I can’t get on board this absolute train of hatred towards men. They have such hateful ideologies that they can’t see how hateful they are. They think comparing men to wild animals, constantly telling men they are trash etc is going to change men. At some point, people become numb to shaming and all they are doing is alienating the men on their side.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 10:34 PM
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And these are HUGE voting demographics. How dumb can they be?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 07:54 PM
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They’re telling men who mostly aren’t having sex, they will stop having sex with them. 😂 That boat sailed a long time ago moron. 😜
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 07:52 PM
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I can’t help laughing at how they have no idea how alienating men… alienates men. 😂 they just keep doubling down in the insulting shaming language without actually trying to have a conversation. At best suddenly they care about men because they want men to vote in their interest. 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 07:50 PM
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Also ironically, if women were choosing more lethal methods, it would be proof of their desperation to escape their awful lives. When men choose more lethal methods it’s because they are defective.
/r/MensRights25/10/24 10:58 PM
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I love hearing about stuff like this. There are so many layers to deceptive and obfuscating speech. This is a great video I saw recently on it https://youtu.be/CzsEp_hakK4 What I really dislike about speech like this is that most people have no guard against it and that enables them to be “brainwashed” by deceptive language. You have to have seen speech like this before to identify what is going on. Speaking more broadly I think it’s a big mistake to dismiss the concerns of groups you aren’t in.…
/r/MensRights25/10/24 10:25 PM
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I think the point of this language is to obfuscate the issue and to place the focus back on women or at least away from men. If men are choosing more lethal methods, then they are more at risk of death so it’s a crisis. But either way, it’s possible for this to be a thing that affects men and women differently and be deserving of resources and help. The thing they seem to need to obscure is that men have actual problems that society isn’t addressing and saying “it’s not a men’s issue” doesn’t ne…
/r/MensRights25/10/24 06:34 PM
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The first thing is to not fall in to the trap of making this a competition and to realize that both cases matter. A suicide attempt is tragic and even worse is an actual suicide. Both deserve compassion. Secondly, regardless of if there are more attempts, men are actually dying a lot which does need to be recognized as a huge problem and is indicative of men not having the help and resources that they need or there being other things wrong. The things misandrists will do is twist this to be thin…
/r/MensRights25/10/24 05:45 PM
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P Diddy should be a great guy in their eyes too? 🤔
/r/MensRights23/10/24 03:31 PM
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That’s a good way to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:01 PM
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They should cap the number of matches a person can have at one time to 5 and penalize not talk in to matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:10 AM
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The poor would be rich if they chose their jobs more carefully! 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:07 AM
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Most men will risk being rejected up front and then pay for a date to meet a potential partner. Women won’t do this. Men aren’t just trying to have sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:07 AM
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I don’t think apps can ever really work well. You need community, low pressure interactions, friend groups, accountability. We need to meet in the real world instead of on a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:04 AM
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That’s what these apps and the dating dynamic do. They reduce people to thumb gestures. Some of the guys you rejected were probably great guys but how would you know? And when you have so many more options, you are incentivized to pick based on more superficial things as it’s all you have to go by. Then you might as well raise your looks standards as why date a 7/10 when an 8/10 wants to meet you?… So the guys that get all of the attention also raise their standards or just play the field. You m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:02 AM
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Men start off on the apps being picky. It doesn’t work so they swipe on everything to see what they get. The big problem is that men have to make the first move. This is the core of the issue. Women get to be passive and picky while the men must declare their interest up front, shoot their shot, and lead the conversation. This is the dynamic that leads to women being flooded with attention. Women’s passivity in dating which lets them avoid rejection forces men to be extremely active if they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:53 AM
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Even without the make up, it would still be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:34 AM
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Guys with extreme fame, wealth, power or status are edged cases. Not even 0.001% of the cases we’re talking about. Including them in the conversation just devotes a disproportionate amount of time to something that is very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:25 AM
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Not sure if youve noticed but getting rich and powerful is not at all easy. Getting makeup is however relatively simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:22 AM
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It should penalize people that match with someone and don’t talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:49 AM
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Hold the line!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:18 AM
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Is she from out space? Wow! Sounds amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:15 AM
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It doesn’t suggest hope or a lack of it because we have no idea who didn’t respond. It might have been 5 women out of 1000 that didn’t respond. We don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:55 PM
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It’s possible to have problems with OF but still watch adult content. OF lowers the bar for entry to adult content to the point that people who would never do adult content join OF without really thinking about the consequences. Porn is usually a remote group of people you never really interact with by now, OF workers are flooding social media promoting their content, they are influencers on kids sites (Twitch) and sex work has become more visible. There are plus sides to the models but this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:29 PM
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Again. Never said single people aren’t happy. I’ve said that if someone desires a romantic connection, even if they are happy with the rest of their lives, an unfulfilled desire would be a source of unhappiness in that part of their life. People can be generally happy and fulfilled but have parts of their lives they are unhappy with. You attract who you are. This is something that sounds true but definitely isn’t. Sometimes kind people attract abusers or people with great personalities struggle …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:23 PM
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When I say “friendships”, I am talking about guys that they’re either hooking up with, or are friends that give them boyfriend treatment. They may be single but what they are doing couldn’t continue if they found a relationship, so they’re in a bit of a grey zone. They’re not in a relationship but are also doing relationship stuff with someone to technically not quite single either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:03 PM
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Never said it should be your sole source of happiness. I’ve said that it is an important PART of your happiness, just like having friends, a good career, good family relationships etc. Nobody would say “you should be happy unemployed” to a job seeker. The lack of a job is a source of unhappiness. You may be happy with the other parts of your life and doing well but an important part being missing should bother you. The idea that if you want to be in a relationship, you should already be so happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:00 PM
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I really just do not buy this “be happy alone” mess. I do think someone should be content alone and be able to live well. Like I said, someone that needs to go from relationship to relationship and can’t be single has a problem. But it is very valid to crave a romantic connection with someone and have the lack of it be a source of unhappiness or pain, especially if they have lived so for extended periods of time. I never said a romantic relationship is the only kind of human connection, I said i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:50 PM
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The real solution is for both men and women to be proactive, not just leaving it all on men to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:02 PM
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That’s just wrong. While I do think someone that can’t be single and goes from relationship to relationship has problems, I take issue with this idea that ever having a romantic partner at all is optional for most people. People need companionship and for humanity and important part of that is in the form of finding a partner. The loneliness of a lack of romantic connection is a serious pain that can’t be waved away with therapy/social groups etc. most people have a real need to find a mate and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:01 PM
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I’d bet even the ones that aren’t have guys they see sometimes or “friendships” that provide them some sort of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:55 PM
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It’s like when they say “you’ll meet someone when you stop looking”. For a woman that’s fine simply because men are doing all of the work behind the scenes making relationships happen. It’s funny when that life advice stops working and they have to realize the universe isn’t some magical place where everything works out automatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:53 PM
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Just because they are easier to manipulate doesn’t mean a guy actually wants to actually manipulate them. Pet’s are easier to eat for breakfast than children, it doesn’t mean that people who get pets do so for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:20 AM
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As always, they can’t accept that some women are more desirable than them or that they don’t have some of the traits that men are looking for. Admitting that a younger woman may be prettier, less in a rush to marry, have less baggage, be easier going, etc is too painful so they project flaws in to everyone else. The younger woman must be dumb and naive and the guy must have evil intentions. The older woman judging can’t accept any fault even admit she’s not got everything… and that kind of minds…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:14 AM
2

I’ve seen some posts where the woman just has an issue with him playing. He’s done his chores around the house, finished work and all that but just needs to chill for a bit and do something. Her endless reality shows are another matter though… that’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:00 PM
1

That’s pretty small depending on the games you play. I’ve not encountered anything like the videos you see online. I’d assume their dislike applies to single player games too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:58 PM
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And rules don’t apply 100% of the time, just most of the time. Exceptions make the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:33 PM
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I think you can compromise on superficial things like looks (to a degree, you still need to be attracted to the person), but should never compromise on a persons character or them being a good person. There are lots of average looking bad people out there. I’d rather be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:46 AM
5

And then you’d likely get rejected a lot more as he’s also been approached frequently. It’s like a guy thinking he’s gonna get supermodels if he just approaches them. Reality is going to pay him a visit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:32 PM
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Precisely this. When you shoulder the responsibility for approaching, you get instant feedback and a bit of a wake up in terms of how you see yourself. All of these women that rate themselves 10/10 would have to think very hard if the guy they liked simply said no because he was approached by women more attractive often.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:30 PM
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If all women collectively did something of course it would change… but then they would realize that a small percentage of women are very naturally beautiful. No make up, not much hair to remove, naturally hour glass bodies etc Some women have those features naturally or with very little work and the women that stop lose their competitive advantage if the top 5% beauty is about. It would be a big demotion in terms of beauty. They’d start doing things to compete with women who are gifted with look…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:06 PM
4

It would have a very profound on dating dynamics if women had to experience the men’s perspective of dating. Firstly, it would knock women’s self evaluations of themselves way down. The women that claim to be 10s would have to deal with the reality of not getting many yeses and you can’t call yourself a 10 when the world says “no” that often or ignores you until you ask. Second it would have a profound effect on men. I think a lot of the emotional issues men have are linked to only being valued …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:42 PM
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Even then, women are constantly comparing themselves to the standard of beauty set by social media; the women that successful men date, the women that are promoted as beautiful on IG, the latest beauty fad etc. So the opinions of these men, brands, algorithms etc is shaping how you perceive your looks, even if you never meet with these people. Like you say the opinion of a guy you don’t want is near worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:25 PM
4

It’s a cult.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/07/24 11:40 PM
3

I’d guess you have a high ELO score so your profile is promoted more heavily. This also keeps you on the app as a guy who ranks highly, has other options. Guys who don’t rank so highly get strung along and their profile is buried until they pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:31 PM
3

It’s pretty wrong to dismiss a man’s feelings about a woman as only being about sex. It’s like dismissing a woman’s feelings as being only about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:24 PM
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There are lots of reasons why women won’t like manosphere. One is that having your world view challenged isn’t fun. Realizing that men get the short end of the stick sometimes isn’t a pleasant thing to acknowledge when society and feminism are focused on telling you the opposite. Hearing that some of the things you do contributes to negative outcomes isn’t fun for anyone. It makes people uncomfortable because it means you need to change and most people (men and women) would rather blame the mess…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:20 PM
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FD Virtue Signifier.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/24 05:37 PM
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Because average men don’t get good results when dating. If they are average or below average, depending on where you are, results are the same. These women still notice the top 1% guy at the party.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:48 PM
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Right? I just think on dating it’s so easy for a woman to not have to deal with reality. Men do the heavy lifting when it comes to making relationships happen and her friends tell her she’s a 10 even if she’s obese. Why would you bother confronting a difficult reality if you don’t have to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:26 PM
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If the guy isn’t in some way exceptional he’s invisible. He’s gotta either be very attractive have great game.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:24 PM
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The thing is a mid dude might think he’s above average, his results will remind him otherwise consistently. Not getting dates, not getting asked out, online dating gives no results, no girlfriend, no sex. A mid woman will be asked out, have an active inbox online, have people pay to take her out etc. once in a while a cute guy (who may just be looking for an easy lay) shows you interest. It’s very easy to delude yourself if you get results like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:18 PM
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I don’t think that’s true. Men might be more interested in sex but women want kids a lot especially before their fertility declines.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:25 PM
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I do think men could do more with their presentation but I don’t think it’d do much for the average guy either. If the guy is already what she likes, bad presentation might disqualify him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:21 PM
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She described one attractive man in a “sea of amazing women”. Yeah right. She’s delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:07 PM
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You’d think she’d move to Atlanta to increase her odds of finding someone right? Nope. Some women won’t lift a finger to even make it easy for a guy to do the work of meeting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:05 PM
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I honestly think that this “girl power yaaaaay! Single women without kids are the happiest demographic. Look at the single lonely men suffering lol” thing is gonna bite a lot of women in the ass in a few decades. I’d bet that those women who don’t have kids/family but are happy truly never wanted kids and would be miserable with them. The majority of men and women want to get married and have a family and their biology is going to hit them in the face very hard once their 40s happen. There will …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:03 PM
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That’s not really true. Both men and women want to pair with each other but firstly, modernity has made a lot of men’s default contributions to society obsolete (labor, protection from the elements, provision). Secondly, men are the ones socially obligated to do the approaching. This upsets the perception of desire as she gets to sit back and have men who are interested, make it known. Men have to express their desire openly while she gets to keep her cards close to her chest. She also doesn’t g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:20 PM
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I think part of who women view as attractive is based on how they view themselves. She described herself and the “sea of amazing women” in the room which indicates she’s sees herself as up there… when in reality, she’s quite average looking and probably overweight. I’d bet there were other decent looking guys but they were 5’10 instead of 6ft so she dismissed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:15 PM
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I bet that’s not how things would actually end up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:09 PM
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Do we have any idea how many men did breed?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:07 PM
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These women aren’t even that attractive. They’re a bit above average for the UK and way below average for other countries. But she thinks herself and other women are “amazing”. It’s delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:54 PM
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When she talks about 1 attractive male in a sea of amazing women or her amazing friends, I just laugh. It’s the “we’re all 10s” when in reality the blonde woman is a little above average in the face but looks overweight. Her and her friends overrate themselves and look down on their equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:53 PM
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You know full well a lot of women aren’t interested in those and see them as low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:37 AM
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“Own volition…” no spending money is mandatory. If he doesn’t want to spend he has to deal with being alone. It’s like saying women in the 60s did housework of their “own volition”. They could say no to marriage and housework but would end up being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:48 PM
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Definitely not black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:25 AM
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Stop engaging with the content. It is misandrist garbage. If they need to insult all men to make their point, they should do better. Stop entertaining it and rewarding bad behavior with your attention.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/24 12:59 AM
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I was interested in what you had to say but you’re just way too condescending.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:55 AM
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I think so too. It’s why the 80% of men on OLD being unattractive is misleading. These are men that would become more attractive if they had a chance to talk to the woman in person and be funny or interesting. Men have other things that make them interesting. Men can’t lead with just their looks because few possess that crazy high level of male beauty needed to do that. Women can just be average and use their looks to be successful dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:52 AM
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My impression is the archetypal Chad will stand out on social media or initially in meeting a group of guys but there are other qualities that matter a lot too. Guys you might not notice initially can become really attractive after talking to them, some guys who were hot become less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:49 AM
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Which makes non assholes try even less.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:17 PM
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I KNEW this was coming.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 03:07 PM
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Their only point in quoting religion is to have a framework for them to control women. They can take the authority of the Bible and quote rules for women while not living by any of them themselves.
/r/ExRedPill22/05/24 07:27 PM
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😂
/r/ExRedPill15/05/24 07:26 AM
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Welcome to dating like men do. 😂 It’s funny that when women want something they have slut walks, fight to be in the work force and can out talk anyone that disagrees but when it’s stuff like this, they fold at the first bad experience. Guys have negative experiences approaching women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:48 PM
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Where did you hear this? I had been thinking this. Most don’t have the social skills or courage to deal with the constant rejection men face.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:45 PM
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I’m glad the clubs are feeling it too. They’ve benefitted for decades off of exploiting men’s loneliness. Ladies nights, double entry fees for men or free entry for women, bouncers that treat men, like trash, men buying all of the overpriced drinks, flyers with pictures of women that definitely will not be there, attractive women scooped up in to the VIP… all to go home empty handed most weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:44 PM
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Women do need to pick and choose back. 300lbs Bob from accounting isn’t automatically getting to pick supermodels based on being male.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:11 PM
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For 3, you’d be surprised that some men don’t really have this either. They know who they’d have sex with sure but actually who they are romantically attracted to takes time. We have to be super interested in a woman we barely know or like to even have a chance of finding out. Some women become a lot more attractive once you get to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:31 PM
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In terms of revenue dating apps are like a night club. They want to get as many women on as possible, especially attractive ones. They can treat guys like complete garbage but they will keep coming back for more. Charge them higher costs, give them less features, have better services for women etc. men will take it because they are under a constant psychological pressure to approach, pursue, make the first move or be alone. Charging women, or limiting their options will just result in them using…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:25 PM
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If I were on an app where it’s specified I have to, of course. On Tinder it’s expected for men to message first and I’d take a match as a sign of her interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:14 PM
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It there are lots of things that are natural that we as human beings have transcended. Men and women not having equal work roles is something we have made great strides in making equal. We have enfranchised women in education and in voting… but when it comes to something that would benefit men’s wellbeing, suddenly we want to appeal to the way nature is as it being the way it should be. Don’t you think men feel unsafe reaching out to a woman that has unknown motives? We expect men to do all of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:06 PM
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From reports and things I’ve seen, they sometimes resurrect inactive profiles even though the person quit the app. I’ve heard that once you quit premium, they sometimes start matching you with people just to get you to resubscribe. They want to get you to pay so they do things to make it seem like you’re missing out or have matches you may miss if you don’t. While they may want you to match, I’d bet they want to delay it as long as possible so that you pay as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:52 PM
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They prioritize short term big profits over longs term sustainability. If they wanted to “empower women” they would tell them to get their act together when messaging men and penalize them for not responding or lazy openers, the same way men are penalized for swiping on everyone. Instead, they just keep babying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:47 PM
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Similar seeming but they’re not. Looks, personality, culture, sense of humor, values etc are things that you enjoy about a person. The person isn’t left with less of these things because you’re in their life. With money, usually the person who has high financial requirements wants to take this persons money for themselves. There is a consumptive aspect of it. I do believe financial considerations are important but when the person is looking for large amounts of money from another person, it’s to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:45 PM
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If the women don’t want to talk to a guy, they don’t have to match with him. It’s impossible for him to message her. They always had 100% control of who they spoke to. Women messaging first is just a gimmick as many do not like the responsibility of leading a conversation.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 12:13 AM
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Yep. It was a fake marketing beat about “empowering women” when in reality women have always had more power in on line dating. If you can put a feminist spin on something and claim to empower women, lots of people will buy it even if it makes no sense.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 12:07 AM
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Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:40 PM
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Precisely. For a variety of reasons forming social bonds is really hard for men especially where there is little community. Chatting with someone that will never talk to you again isn’t the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:29 AM
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For all of this talk about the wall, SMV, etc human beings are a pair bonded species. If you fight pair bonding, you’re swimming upstream against a very strong current. It’s what we’re designed to do. Men need women. Women need men. That’s not going away anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:46 PM
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I thought women didn’t do that stuff for men? 🤔
/r/ExRedPill13/04/24 03:09 PM
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I thought women didn’t do that stuff for men? 🤔
/r/ExRedPill13/04/24 03:08 PM
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This is specifically with regard to dating and relationships. Men are the ones expected to ask out, court, risk rejection, pay etc to get a date. The woman is inherently valuable to a degree while her equivalent has to earn a relationship. What specifically do women do to make a relationship happen? Not looking nice, or making eye contact for a few seconds etc. logistically, what do women do that makes the relationship happen? They leave the difficult stuff up to the guy, even when they don’t ha…
/r/ExRedPill13/04/24 03:04 PM
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Please stop calling being an asshole “masculine”. If women acting masculine upsets you, there is something wrong with that way men behave. I’d find a woman with a very masculine presence unattractive but her behavior wouldn’t be a problem or unpleasant to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:26 AM
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It’s a generalization but if people respect you at work but outside of that, nobody cares about you in your life, it’s a pretty miserable existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:53 PM
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Blaming men or women is a bit too simple as there can be other causes such as socio economic issues, societal attitudes, changes in social structure, lack of community... Not every men or women’s issue is directly the fault of the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:49 PM
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That sounds horrible for women!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:44 PM
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This is the most realistic take. People want to prioritize one size and claim the other has it easy. Just not true. Women are cared about and men are respected. When you switch sides, you lose one of those. What I do notice is that men are aware women have issues with certain things. They are at least aware. Women either don’t know, or seriously think that if they just approached it like they do as a woman, it will be fine. They just don’t understand that men have real issues with the way they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:39 PM
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My guess is that at work as a man you are more respected but in general life you aren’t loved. You’re less of an actual person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:33 PM
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This is a pretty naive take on trans women’s lives. Every trans person can get access to upper middle class/rich activists? C’mon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:32 PM
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I would consider the “industrialization of women” a contributing factor and that is in some ways a product of feminism. However the big problem now is that people that want kids, simply can’t afford them. Multiple recessions, increased cost of living etc has made it expensive to form families. Dating apps monetizing relationships have made things worse. Even meeting someone you still can’t afford to start a family with is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:05 PM
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I wonder how effective these will be on guys that aren’t having sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:19 AM
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She’s not even trad. Just greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:40 AM
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I thinks it’s from he looking at the world and deciding what she “wants” to be true should be true. The idea of equality feels good and the idea of being taken care of feels good to, so does feeling special. Instead of trying to reason these things, she just decides she wants all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:37 AM
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Because a lot of men are. Slowly it’s reducing but lots of guys are able to be confused by the language to believe they’re not getting an absolutely awful deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:35 AM
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That’s not really what I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 11:52 AM
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What makes you wait until marriage? Is this religious. It’s actually good to hear that not everyone is jumping into bed super fast. It just sounds like a disaster to me. Maybe it’s growing up in purity culture but I value some waiting. It’s crazy to me that sex is expected/common on the third date. There is this weird pressure as a man that doesn’t think quite like everyone else. She’s going to give the signals to “make the move” and if I miss them, she loses interest. Modern dating culture does…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:18 AM
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One thing I’ve heard a few times is that he’s willing to do what’s asked but she’s wanted it done her way and that’s a cause of tension. He will take the garbage out, but she wanted it done now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:10 AM
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For a decent woman this is all pretty good. It’s a great requirement to have. For women that aren’t as mature as they think they are I find this means, she wants a man that can understand and relate to her emotions. The end. She wants him to read her mind and accommodate her quirks. Problem is she isn’t able to do it back at all. She won’t accommodate or listen to how he’s feeling. Her emotions and ways of feeling are THE way things should be done, regardless of how selfish she’s being. You will…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:59 AM
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It’s the money not the attitude lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:44 AM
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Didn’t work for Bill Clinton. Nowadays getting involved with people you work with when you are successful is the dumbest thing possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:53 AM
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I thought that is a thing not done anymore because nowadays it’s too easy to lose absolutely everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:26 AM
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It’s the confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:22 PM
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That’s complete nonsense and you know it. You won’t find many guys this expect women to make the first move then get upset when they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:22 PM
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Face palm. I’m talking about meeting someone for the first time when you otherwise wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:44 PM
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What makes you hang out on this sub? Must be completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:42 PM
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Oh you are lesbian or asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:05 PM
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Fair enough but even if they are linked, saying a guy that wants to date you is “after sex” is pretty insulting. It’s like me saying a woman that wants to date is after “free money, dates and gifts”. She may even expect those things in a relationship but reducing her interest to those things is insulting. It’s like some women don’t realize that a guy that genuinely is interested in them, likes them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:56 PM
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What I mean is in terms of approaching. Just say you’ve never spoken. The guy is unlikely to go across the room and near embarrass himself unless he’s attracted to a the woman. They don’t do the same things to meet women to befriend that they do for wine they want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:39 PM
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But there are so many conversations and meaningful topics that could be covered but most of these show want to bring on airheads OF women and be shocked they aren’t smart. They could at least have some intelligent normal women on there but the hosts are often so shallow, they wouldn’t be able to debate someone with a little intelligence. More interesting would be seeing some show where normal women present their ideas. I doubt it would be very impressive but it would be a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:36 PM
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First time on a dating app, man starts out picky. Reading profiles, crafting messages, filtering out. After low or no success, he decides to rework his profile. Nothing. Starts being less picky, nothing. Oh someone likes me, I’ll pay for premium… she’s 65 and no teeth. Keeps swiping getting less picky. At some point, reading all of the profiles of women that will ignore you is depressing, so just swipe on everything until you’ve used all of your likes each day. Nothing or next to nothing. Get a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:16 PM
3

Just be Henry Cavil.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:12 PM
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How do you know it’s “arrogance”?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:07 PM
2

No someone very average like Henry Cavil. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:05 PM
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Everyone messages the almost top but also women below medium attractiveness get messaged too. They have options too. Medium women get lots of messages to the point that very attractive women don’t get much more and even the most attractive women get less. This graph does show that men are more inclined to message very attractive women but average women also get a lot of attention too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:04 PM
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It’s such a hijacked label now. It was some observations about life for men but now it’s synonymous with fresh and fit types obsessed with asking OF women their body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:56 PM
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You’d date a misogynist that’s hot enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:45 PM
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Ted Bundy somehow went undetected but guys that vent online are easy to spot. Saying so sounds good. It’s gratifying to believe and I’d hope that a woman could pick out genuine misogynist but real life just does not look like that. The funny thing is when you chat to guys who are popular with women, some of them have complete contempt for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:43 PM
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I think there is going to be a big dating crisis as the seeds these dating apps have planted bear fruit. On the women’s side, you have women that have been constantly show that there is an ocean of available men to choose from. They also are told how happy they are being single. On the men’s side, you have a lot of men who become jaded and hurt by the constant rejection. Constantly being ignored, if they do win the lottery and get a date, they still have to do all of the foot work to make it wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:36 PM
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A high status man messes with the women he works with? You sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:20 PM
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Women do that stuff too. Stop lying lol. A guys “no” means “try harder”. If she is a woman with not many options, she can be just as much of a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:12 PM
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Some are cool. Some turn quite mean regardless of how nicely you say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:10 PM
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I think in a platonic setting a guy is likely to make friends with a woman if she’s cool but I see little likelihood of a guy putting himself in an the same kind of awkward situations he would to ask someone out, to be a friend. He doesn’t even do that to make guy friends. It’s unpleasant and difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:09 PM
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Why do you reduce a guy being romantically interested in you to “wanting sex”?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:06 PM
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When a woman invites you out, say you’re “busy” and get blocked lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:04 PM
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You’re cruel. How about just being someone’s friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:01 PM
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“God, grow a spine” Ah I must have read that wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:00 PM
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I never said women never deal with rejection. Where did I say this? Please show me. You are doing the “failing at objectivity” thing you see women do online. It’s why questions like “rate yourself” get asked because you can’t get a straight answer out of some women. Even when it’s obvious. If a woman’s issue was brought up, you’d be laser focused able to give detailed nuanced intelligently reasoned answers on how things affect women. Now when something that primarily affects men comes up suddenl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:13 PM
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You’re missing my point. In a discussion (nothing to do with if he wants to date her) talking to women can be frustrating because some give answers to objective facts but based on how they feel. They give answer that makes them feel good but can have nothing to do with reality. Women may have “nothing to prove” but we still evaluate each other. Without that how would we even understand one another. Part of the “amusement” guys can get watching some of these discussions is seeing just how untruth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:55 PM
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Not quantifying something makes no sense. If a guy has to go through a 10 explicit rejections to get a date and a woman has to go through 0, that’s gonna have different effects on both people. It’s like saying “we should measure the wage gap because everyone gets money at the end of the day”. If something hurts, shouldn’t the amount of times it’s experienced be a factor too?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:37 PM
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When you say most guys, do you mean that in a room of 10 guys and 10 women all of the men would have sex with around 8 of the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:45 AM
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I think women confuse language and say what feels good even though they don’t believe it. Some women will rate their male “besties” as 10s but never consider dating them, “ew”. The host is asking for an objective scoring but some women take objective numbers and make them subjective. There is a bit of a cruelty in asking this online though. I just don’t like it under most circumstances as the motives aren’t kind but I get why guys think like this; dating and women will give you a harsh reminder …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:23 AM
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That’s part of it on some shows. They’re trying to knock the woman’s confidence. In other circumstances the asker just wants some objectivity on how attractive she thinks she is. If she can give an objective answer at all is progress because some women are impossibly difficult to nail down on anything they don’t want to acknowledge or think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:11 AM
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Some of the guys want to take the women down a peg but in some conversations, they’re trying to get some objectivity in a conversation that is very feelings based. Everyone can have a feeling but without some objective metrics, how can we even talk. A woman calling herself a 10 on some shows when she isn’t even close is an example of some women’s ability to warp language to mean what she wants it to. 10/10 is perfection, no room to improve etc but she gives an answer based on her feelings. I saw…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:09 AM
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But that’s what 10 means! 10/10. Top tier attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:04 AM
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What does “empowering” even mean? Believing he’s a 10 but then his dating results show the opposite is just going to hurt him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:03 AM
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People are in fierce competition with each other especially when resources are scarce. I wish this wasn’t real but it is. Hierarchies do exist. Ignoring them is a good idea sometimes and at other times not so smart. A world with less hierarchy would be a better place but we just aren’t there. While I think asking people to rate themselves is a bit douchey now, it has some validity in getting to see how highly they view themselves. Problem is it’s often a trick question, no answer is good enough.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:00 AM
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They will lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:51 AM
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It’s because there isn’t much choice and even to get to the place of communicating with her a guy has had to emotionally invest a lot more than her. If he just leaves, when will the next woman arrive? A year? 3 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:42 AM
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There is that amazing empathy guys hear so much about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:55 AM
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Nobody is saying women don’t face any rejection at all but for a male to date, the amount of rejection to acceptance is way higher. It’s not even close. Having to deal with a lot of rejection vs having to deal with a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:54 AM
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It’s frustrating to listen to. “Oh I smiled at a guy once and he didn’t propose to me, I totally get what it’s like to be blown off for a whole year by every woman you try to date”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:49 AM
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You’re changing the topic. This is about dating where men near exclusively have to deal with making the first move and being shot down. A woman can successfully date without ever asking a person out or making the first move. A man cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:47 AM
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How can men meaningfully fight for their rights? Men on masse advocating for their own well-being isn’t really a thing that ever happens. Why? Not sure but I’d bet it’s got something to do with the idea that men believe they have to fix their own problems and nobody else will. Even more so, the issues men are facing aren’t obvious issues where someone has objectively done something wrong. Lacking places to socialize, a lack of community, a lack of economic options, poor services etc are things t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:44 PM
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Where are significant numbers of people even blaming women? Can’t these problems be systemic/social?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:07 PM
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69 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:40 PM
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“If poor people don’t want to sleep outside just avoid doing it” 😂 The level of simple mindedness that comes from women regarding male experiences is hilarious. “Just open up more about your feelings!” “Cry more!” 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:39 PM
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It’s an emergent property of male and female dating. It’s not dictated by any one person or group of people. It’s like saying, “which drop of water makes an ocean”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:37 PM
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It’s not just that, it’s that men have to make the first move. In a society where women did it in equal measures to men, men would be pickier too. Low standards because of low options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:34 PM
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It’s a constant theme of women denying their power because they’d have to take some responsibility. These discussions just make me think a lot of women are just disingenuous or extremely unself-aware. I really wish women got to date as men do. They’d hate it. From the low response rate to the constant pressure to perform, to her making the fake wallet reach, to the pressure to make the first move at the right time, in the right way etc. Suddenly this would all be seen as “emotional labor” 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:51 PM
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I really think it takes more time to draw meaningful conclusions like that about someone. Honestly, I see and hear women’s intuitions get it wrong often. They don’t reality test, are impulsive and instead of holding out for more evidence, leap to very wrong judge mental conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:39 PM
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Some of the problems are things women have actively verbalized and it IS picky. He didn’t go for the kiss on date 3 so she lost interest, he likes some trivial think she doesn’t so she didn’t want to see him again. If women’s intuition was really that good, how come you all seem to end up with assholes? How come some serial killers seem to get lots of dates before getting caught? How come some can’t tell the guy with 5 kids by 5 different women isn’t a likely stable person to have kids with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:35 PM
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Yeah. The guy isn’t pretending, he’s presenting an aspect of himself. One version of him. It would be inappropriate for him to go on the date and trauma dump. He has to “perform” because if he doesn’t, it’s back to square one. Maybe a long time before the next date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:32 PM
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Yeah. They do all of that and at one time where a job was for life, it might have been fair. Now, you’re family until it gets inconvenient and they get rid of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:01 AM
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You could say the same thing about a woman not “inspiring romance” from her man, so he gets to stop putting in effort. If you read OPs previous post it’s the same dumb idea, that a woman who isn’t having sex with her husband is completely not at fault. When I responded that a guy might just not “feel” like taking her out, courting her etc… that’s a problem. Sure a guy has to work on his end of the emotional relationship but so does she. This is why in the west, from the first date, emotional dys…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:10 PM
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It’s hilarious how people think it’s a utopia when it has a lot of its own issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:00 AM
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If you are talking about Norah Vincent that’s not the real story. She did find being a man hard but that’s not why she ended her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:03 PM
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A more accurate metric would be to ask “when was the last time you went on a date, had interest expressed in you or had sex?” And try to correlate that with happiness. Women going through the same droughts that men do likely aren’t happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:09 AM
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A more accurate metric would be to ask “when was the last time you went on a date, had interest expressed in you or had sex?” And try to correlate that with happiness. Women going through the same droughts that men do likely aren’t happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:03 AM
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I honestly think it’s a memetic trend. The idea has been passed around so some think it’s true and believe it about themselves. It’s fashionable to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:49 AM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:43 PM
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Men don’t change because women hold them to traditional gender norms while claiming modern benefits. If women want men to change, choose men who are less traditional. Quick hint, they won’t. They like the traditional gender roles that benefit them and most scoff at the idea of doing the asking out, paying, courting, risking rejection, breadwinning. Given the choice between a high earning man and a medium earner that splits chores, we know who most would choose. You’re seriously telling me that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:15 PM
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Women have changed and modernized in their societal privileges while discarding their social roles. However they still have traditional expectations of men. That’s why men haven’t changed, they can’t while still having any success dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:04 PM
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The fact that the people in power are men has little bearing on the policies they make regarding the lives of average men. It’s one of the overreaches of the term “patriarchy”. The court system is overwhelming male but still discriminated against men in sentencing. Just being a man gives you no special advocacy towards men of power, (in fact I’d say sometimes it reduces your advocating power). It’s like saying that homeless white Americans are the same nationality and race as most of the billion…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:00 PM
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Thanks! Sorry to pry. I was wondering as the info might help me. Any non personal tips on coping with PTSD?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:35 PM
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Yeah those guys are being jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:05 PM
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Usually it would be because she’s putting how she feels about something ahead of the facts of the situation. She cares more about her emotions over fixing the issue and becomes incapable of thinking beyond how she feels. While men do this too (look at politics), I see it far more commonly in women. Even really intelligent women do this which is frustrating. Had conversations with other guys about how unbelievably frustrating it is to have someone you think is smart be unable to reason all of a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:04 PM
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What helped you get better?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:53 PM
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Women don’t really lose their sexual leverage in the way RP would like to believe. Sure many/most women lose their looks and lose access to the men they could get in their 20s but they still have guys interested in them. They still will always have filler inboxes than most men. They do have less options than they did and getting commitment from a guy they like way later in life will be hard/impossible but they still have options especially because of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:49 PM
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Yeah. It’s like being alone in a room where you can leave anytime vs being locked in a room. I’d really like to see women deal with the level of loneliness men go through. Having to always do the pursuing and chasing. Getting rejected directly, getting flaked on. Having someone wait for you to ask them out, expect you to pay then do the fake reach for her purse. Carrying the conversation that she contributes little to and she still gets bored… having all of this be a lifetime experience of provi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:40 PM
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What did they teach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:25 PM
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I think compared to men, they get to experience way more. They get way more validation from relationships, are courted and pursued. If they decide they’ve had enough of it all, they’re coming from a place of relative abundance compared to a man that’s had to constantly work to be validated his entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:21 PM
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Generally I think even those women get to partake in a hook up, going on a date, being desired, being pursued something to let them know they are wanted. Guys never really get that. A man’s singleness is living in a huge romantic void. I’d love to see the that women that proclaim their happiness being single as some kind of victory over men, try to live with a lack of any validation or expressions of desireability. Even better, deal with this as a lifetime experience. They’d change their tunes s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:18 PM
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Generally as most men, you are picking out something that happens extremely rarely that you don’t see often. Of course you are going to be less able to identify it, react to it and be certain it’s not just in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:47 PM
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What a useless comment. How about refuting what was said instead of just labeling it?
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 12:43 AM
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Media pairing aren’t representative of normal life. The man is usually extremely wealthy which covers a multitude of flaws. Also looking at relationships from a way older generation isn’t representative of now, if anything it illustrates how the scales have tipped. In the current age of social media, and the unlimited (seeming) choice presented to women by online dating, an overweight man and an overweight woman do not have anywhere near the same amount of choices. That’s a fact. An illustration…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:53 PM
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… in other words a woman that deviates far from the ideal beauty standard can be desired whilst a man like that couldn’t. If she can still be seen as attractive, men will also be more willing to accept women who don’t look good. All you are doing is reframing what is obvious without admitting the clear truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:09 PM
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Male depravity is not the topic. We’re talking about “men accepting” ugliness. My point reinforces that an unattractive woman can be accepted in a way unattractive men wouldn’t even dream of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:07 PM
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Male depravity is not the topic. We’re talking about “men accepting” ugliness. My point reinforces that an unattractive woman can be accepted in a way unattractive men wouldn’t even dream of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:10 AM
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The Patriarchy prefers women now? Lol. What a useless word.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:29 AM
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Just change the topic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:27 AM
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If they do, just blame men for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:53 AM
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They’d just claim to want historical justice. It’s like those feminist calculations that it will take 200 years for gender equality to be reached. They give women a sense of moral superiority and a blank cheque to make demands from men. In reality despite many of their life key metrics being better than men, they still get to feel entitled to demand more without earning anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:52 AM
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Victimhood has become the default way for some women to get what they want. They frame everything in terms of patriarchy or some injustice so they can get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:46 AM
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Reddit relationship threads are hilarious. I’m genuinely surprised when, after some serious teeth pulling, people can see the woman’s fault. It does seem like things are changing a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:43 AM
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Twitch changed their rules to allow more lewd content because the current rules regarding lewd content “disproportionately affected women”… That’s because women were the ones breaking them all of the time. In some ways when it’s time for women to be called out, people just play extremely dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:41 AM
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A obese ugly woman can start and OF and make crazy bank off of the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:38 AM
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The bar for women’s behavior is non existent now. There were rules and social norms to restrain promiscuity, cheating, having nothing to offer, disgraceful behavior etc. Some of them were even too harsh but they kept women in line because without them and with giving women the benefits afforded to men (without the responsibilities) society becomes lopsided. It’s where we are now and the men that can’t cope with being alone, simply have to lower their standards. The men who have had their fingers…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 05:19 PM
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Having a girlfriend early and breaking that mental barrier must have really helped psychologically. The online “black pill” discourse has mentally crippled some guys before they even shoot their shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 09:08 AM
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The gene pool needs diversity. It being completely dominated by 6’2 square jawed frat bros would probably have led to us missing the technological advancements of the past 200 years. OPs post is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:56 AM
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The truth is that human beings are where the problem resides irrespective of sex. My problem is that things get blamed on men all the time and women’s wrongs are way more hidden or ignored than men’s. In reality, there are lots of good men and women out there, just like there are lots of awful ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 09:30 AM
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If you chat to almost guys, I’d be even in here, they wouldn’t think cheating is fair or acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:51 PM
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PS5.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:44 PM
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I’d bet that women choosing to not have kids are a small dent in the numbers. It’s probably still 2.5 kids… at the moment. I expect it to drop off hard with this generation of 30+ year olds. It’s too difficult financially, time wise. Even meeting someone is so hard as we don’t have communities that make organic relationships happen. Everything is a high pressure first date with someone you barely know and probably pass up because there wasn’t enough time to find out their more positive attribute…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:42 PM
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OnlyFans is mostly funded by lonely desperate men, it takes advantage of vulnerable men. This is an extreme example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:31 PM
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The guys that say that are podcast bros. Most normal men don’t think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:01 PM
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If you are super attractive to her, sure but if your “I’d date him if he played his cards right or could just be friends” attractive, you have a finite window with the women you meet to establish who you are to her. Take to long and she loses interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:51 PM
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For men, that’s just a numbers game. Way less options than women, see what snags when you go fishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:49 PM
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The other thing is that with those other interactions, he has a reason to talk to them. There is a context to hang out with your friends and talk about life, sport, etc. with some random beautiful woman, you’re on the spot, required to make conversation out of nothing, build bridges and rapport etc. a lot of men would be more confident if there were community spaces where people met and interacted more naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:41 PM
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The nightlife industry would completely collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:36 PM
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Plus you probably wouldn’t get paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:30 PM
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Talk to guys at these events. They are usually pretty cool and way more interesting than the hot girl. Some of the women you aren’t even attracted to can be pretty cool too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:01 PM
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If you need to talk to a few close friends about it that’s okay. I know women process their feelings a little different than men but some women get angry when a guy moves on. They expect boyfriend treatment from a guy they just want to be friends with. Still some guys are awful. Protect yourself. If he doesn’t respect you boundaries, walk away. I am Not a woman so can’t advise on how to fix it completely, but true feelings of love run deep in men way beyond “just getting laid”. It’s not your res…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:41 PM
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Yep. It’s happened to me and it cuts like shark teeth. Then she acts like the guy just wanted to be friends and it’s a complete asshole nice guy fake friend who just wanted to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:32 PM
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Some do some don’t. 🤷‍♂️ Many use that excuse to not take responsibility for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:17 AM
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Just have some platonic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:06 AM
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Whether it is or isn’t, you have established a boundary which they are trying to cross. That’s a bad sign. I’d verbalize this and if they don’t respect the boundary, end the friendship or at least put distance between yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:05 AM
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This is how women act when a guy rejects them https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/13mvme1/men_who_have_rejected_women_what_was_the_womens/ Given a black eye, shouted at, insulted assaulted… but men are awful people for walking away. I am just waiting for someone to call the women’s behavior “toxic masculinity” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:14 AM
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This is how women act when a guy rejects them https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/13mvme1/men_who_have_rejected_women_what_was_the_womens/ Given a black eye, shouted at, insulted assaulted… but men are awful people for walking away. I am just waiting for someone to call the women’s behavior “toxic masculinity” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:13 AM
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This is how women act when a guy rejects them https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/13mvme1/men_who_have_rejected_women_what_was_the_womens/ Given a black eye, shouted at, insulted assaulted… but men are awful people for walking away. I am just waiting for someone to call the women’s behavior “toxic masculinity” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:12 AM
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Oh hey the sub is back here is the thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/13mvme1/men_who_have_rejected_women_what_was_the_womens/? One dude got a black eye. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:47 PM
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If she wants to be a friend she needs to: Respect his privacy, telling mutual friends about it is embarrassing. Give him time. Those feelings just don’t switch off. Let him know if he needs time away that’s okay and you still want to be his friend. Not jump to conclusions that he’s trying to woo you. Allow him to move on. If he finds a new girl or is interested in one of your friends deal with it. Don’t expect him to do all of the bridge building. I’d say it’s also important for her to be safe. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:09 PM
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I’m similar. I’ve been turned down and stayed friends with the person. The things I like about them are still there but I naught take some time out. Another time the woman is so disrespectful of my feelings; telling everyone she turned me down, constantly trying to get me to do stuff for her. I’d been welcoming understanding, even invited her new bf to things I was doing… she just kept gossiping, has a problem when you move on, lying and trying to get me and other guys back who didn’t want to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:02 PM
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The sub has gone private due to the current Reddit backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:04 PM
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I don’t agree with a single thing you’ve said. If the only difference between your relationship with your boyfriend and best friend (if he is male) is sex and romance, your relationship with your best friend is probably inappropriate. Possibly in the verge of emotional cheating. What about the validation of someone you thing is special, thinking you’re special? Commitment, emotional safety? Companionship? The possibility of spending your lives together? Slowly working towards an extremely deep b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:03 PM
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You can make up any justification for it you want. They are fully aware of their actions when they act awfully. There are zero outs or empathy when a man does it. We need to stop coddling women when they act like complete garbage. Even better how about women do some more of the asking and getting rejected so they get better at it instead of leaving it all to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:08 PM
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It really doesn’t. I can tell if I would screw someone in a second but actual feelings can take a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:05 PM
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Yeah. It can completely depend on where you are, the culture, the social circles etc. There really are some great women out there. I’ve just seen mostly horrible behavior from women. Askmen has gone dark but there was a thread asking men what happened when they turned women down… it was not at all pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:07 PM
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As you say, if they were friends with deceptive intents that that isn’t good but I think a lot of women like to paint men with this broad brush that makes all men out to be deceptive predators. Loss of a friend is easier to deal with if you paint them as a complete villain. That or if they are someone that felt like they were being manipulated and used as a pseudo boyfriend, it’s way easier to accuse them, rather than look at her own behavior. Some women use men for time, attention, ‘friend date…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:05 PM
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Some of the women that have become attractive to me I wasn’t particularly interested in until spending time with them. I honestly think the idea that a guy should 100% be invested in a woman they barely know is part of the problem with modern dating. Also of course… the guy has to lay his cards on the table, swoop in completely invested and risk rejection. Women don’t have to do any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:59 PM
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I honestly am just kinda done with it all. Some of them are NEVER happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:53 PM
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Because men don’t have real feelings and if you shame them just enough you can get them to do exactly what you want. /s The moment she finds a boyfriend, she’s gonna ghost him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:51 PM
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They don’t handle it better lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:49 PM
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Relationship or sex. Why is the rejection sexual advances so different from a relationship? Women don’t take either well. So a woman gets held to a lower standard of behavior because she doesn’t have to deal with it usually?… but at the same time men have to listen to women tell them how they should deal with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:15 PM
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Try rejecting a woman as a guy. You’re in for a rude awakening. The women in this thread are mostly full of complete shit. If the shoe was on the other foot, they’d be worse than the men their complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:56 AM
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How is a guy wanting a relationship with you “wanting your pants”? Women trivialize men’s emotions like it’s nothing then shame men for not opening up. It’s ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:55 AM
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And the moment she finds a boyfriend she’d ghost you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:51 AM
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It’s crazy that the people here think guys are robots that don’t have real feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:49 AM
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Whenever I’ve rejected a woman friend, I have never expected her to spend the same amount of time around me or want the same kind of friendship we had. Even worse they stay “friends” but try to get you back, make you jealous, put you down… whatever. A rejection or hurt changes the friendship. That’s life for men and women. Men aren’t entitled to sex, women aren’t entitled to a man’s attention or time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:49 AM
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How did I know it was gonna be GirlWritesWhat? 🤣 She nailed it completely. I wouldn’t say women are always trying to extract benefits but sometimes that is what is happening. For her to not understand that by rejecting him, he might need some space just shows how much of a utility dispensing service she saw him as. This idea that people should not be friends before dating is insane. How is someone meant to know you and decide if they like you apart from how sexually attractive they find you? The…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:44 AM
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Exactly. They’re acting like women take rejection kindly or well. You say “no” as kindly as possible, she’s gonna try and hurt you back. Women do NOT take rejection well and aren’t the bastions of emotional maturity they seem to believe. The poster turned down women… as a woman. Different experience completely. Women don’t really empathize with men. If they did, they wouldn’t expect someone who is probably hurting to just suck it up. Also other thing, if you turn a guy down, how about not tellin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:35 AM
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Like I said in another comment. Try rejecting a woman friend as a guy. Now matter how you do it, it does not go well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:31 AM
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Try rejecting a woman as a guy even when done as respectfully as possible. Different story. Recent askmen thread of insults, sometimes being hit, slander or whatever. Women do NOT take rejection from men kindly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:29 AM
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Reject a woman as nicely as possible and see if she’ll stay friends with you. Most of the time nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:25 AM
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Only media reinforcing this is also an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:44 PM
0

Wow. That’s nuts. Salutes to you then. It must be pretty bad. I can somewhat appreciate how crappy a lot of men must be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:48 PM
1

I can respect that. Often times when I hear people complaining about those relationships it’s because they want the men to not have any options. These same women dated older men for their money when they were younger and I get the sense that their options have dried up so now they are resentful. I also don’t think these same men have lots of viable options at a similar age and are just choosing to date younger. Once you get into the mid 30s women have kids, can be bitter and angry at you, can st…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:46 PM
1

That sucks. Thanks for your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:42 PM
1

Nah, dudes can be very crappy. Even if it’s one in a hundred, they’re still out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:40 PM
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12-13? Try your whole life never getting much if any attention. “I felt ugly and unlovable”… deal with that for 30+ years. It can crush your soul. I have no doubt that dealing with the opposite is VERY difficult. I can empathize but really have no idea how much it sucked. But dealing with a few awkward years of undesired years as a child is not the same as growing up like that or a life time of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:37 PM
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Or if it was 50/50 things would actually be a lot better but women don’t make the first move because they don’t have to. If I could successfully date without doing it, I would. It’s soul crushing when you are feeling low but have to anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:27 PM
1

You have a link I can check out? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:21 PM
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What is a young man’s worth? If he isn’t actively pursuing and paying he’s nothing. I don’t doubt that women have to deal with guys just trying to get laid, but young men have to deal with… nothing. They never/rarely get to feel that anything in them is desirable at all. It can really screw you up that unless you go out, constantly risk rejection, constantly pay, perform like a dancing monkey, you’re alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:21 PM
1

I would love to know more about the trans experience of being a woman or man. Is there anything harder about being male than female? What is easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:12 PM
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For myself, I WISH I could date someone the exact age as me. We could talk about the same decade, music, movies etc but at the same age, the clock is ticking. I have no time to get to know her and decide if we should take it further. Date for 3 years then call it off? She’s screwed and even if it is her fault, I don’t want to be responsible for leaving her and her not likely being able to have kids. It’s too much pressure. She’s also likely bitter because she’s dated lots of crappy guys. There a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:59 PM
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It’s crazy. An 18 year old man has enough agency to enter the military and get his legs blown off or die. A 23 year old woman can choose to date an older man while rejecting her peers, but is still the victim. What happened to “women maturing faster than men”? Are there even masses of younger women who even say they were manipulated in to dating an older man? It’s fake concern and imagined manipulation. The same way they accuse men who go abroad to date. They can’t stand men having other options…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:45 PM
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They probably chose older guys when they were younger too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:36 PM
2

Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:28 PM
2

How about the older person being aware it’s for his wallet?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:28 PM
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It’s not that men are somehow autistic and don’t get it, it’s just that after trying super hard, writing thoughtful messages and getting nothing, they’re shooting the lowest effort shot they can. A few of the women they sent “hey slut” to probably responded positively, because they like being degraded.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:26 PM
2

It’s not the make advice it’s the lack of honesty/perspective from some of the women that post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 01:57 PM
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I feel like muting 90% of the women that post here sometimes. Absolutely pointless posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:04 PM
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I’d certainly be fine waiting a few months or whatever but I’m also afraid of being the guy she makes work for everything while there is someone else she is crazy about. I’d prefer to take things slow but men are always under pressure to accommodate her emotions at the expense of their own. This all is why women attract and pick assholes. The guys that really are in to what they want are usually crappy guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:00 PM
3

They would never tell gay men/women facing discrimination in countries where it is banned “just find friendships, your sexuality doesn’t matter”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/23 02:23 PM
2

😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:56 AM
1

Some of it is insincere though. Calling an obese woman with the face of a bulldog a “hottie” or “gorgeous” is a lie. It may make them feel good but deep down, you know it’s not true. You’d be mortified if you ever woke up looking like her. The only time I’ve really been upset about stuff like this is when they try to push these things on to us as “beauty”. Putting Lizzo on the cover of a magazine as if she’s a sex symbol does not change the fact that she’s obese. Calling someone beautiful who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:56 PM
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Men and women are superficial about different things. Guys place more emphasis on looks but don’t care about a woman’s money. Women care about looks, just not as much as men but care way more about money. You also have to consider that psychologically and financially it costs men more to date. A guy goes thorough a bunch of rejections to get one date and when he has been “short changed” by a catfish I’d expect him to resent it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:41 PM
2

Why is having some say in what you want to do a bad idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:34 PM
1

That’s all a guy needs to woo you right? Love that straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:33 PM
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The idea that men can sit back and wait for women who are all in, comes from such a privileged place. Women do not at all understand how most men, even men with a lot of positive traits and good looking, get zero perceivable interest. They have to take the first step. Unless a guy is what she considers way above average, most women won’t actually do anything to initiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:29 PM
1

How about short ugly women get with short ugly men? Part of the problem is that average women don’t want average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:23 PM
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Incels make up a very small part of TRP online community. Reducing the discussion to those “losers” is part of why those spaces are growing. Shaming men (by assuming they are incels) who have legitimate issues with divorce, custody, emotional abuse, self esteem, getting help, forming meaningful relationships etc just makes things worse. Even Vaush (who is trying to engage) gets this really wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:08 PM
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The fact that a lot of people aren’t marrying and a lot of young men are single means that TRP isn’t going anywhere until these issues are fixed. Men are still failing in education and dropping out of society. TRP answers some of their questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:02 PM
1

Yeah it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:41 AM
1

Tell them it’s piss. It is lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:41 AM
12

“Why are starved people obsessed with food?”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:40 AM
2

I wouldn’t even say it’s “lying” most of the time. Who people think they are compared to who they actually are can be quite different. Asking customers what they want then giving it to them can often result in them not buying as they don’t really understand their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:54 AM
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You can decide if you get used. And pets aren’t a replacement for human contact or desire. If you don’t want to feel wanted, just eliminate all of your options for finding dates. It’s under your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:26 PM
3

Would you choose never feeling wanted or having someone see something desirable about you, even if it was just your body?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:57 PM
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Even an unattractive woman has way more options than an unattractive man. Even an average man. Women have their own struggles but when it comes to dating, the deck is usually stacked in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:54 PM
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Even an unattractive woman has way more options than an unattractive man. Even an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:52 PM
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If women had to do the asking and courting with their general level of social skills, they’d be a bunch of 50 year old virgins. Many women think they are socially advanced because they have the deck stacked in their favor. Put them in the male role and they crumble immediately. Communicating with someone else who comes from a different life perspective is hard. Men are putting in all of the effort to build bridges while a lot of women sit back and critique the choice of paint.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:30 PM
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I don’t think some women realize they are shooting way out of their range. So they don’t see the accusations of being vapid as true. She things a guy that has way more to offer is her equal, while guys that are on her level or even more attractive that her are below her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:28 PM
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Women that are on track to do well, and are attractive think men are plentiful. They can’t imagine a time when they don’t have the options they do now. While they one some level know that their looks expire, they can’t imagine it being as bad as it really is. Since she entered her teens, she’s had a steady flow of male attention. The idea that men wouldn’t be interested in her is just so alien as she attributes it to her “game” or intrinsic value. I think that’s why some women get really angry w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:25 PM
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And you do that by becoming rich, tall, extremely handsome and preferably white.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:15 PM
1

Lots of men never have kids and I think in this generation, being childless will be a way bigger thing for men but also women to a lesser degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:55 AM
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They don’t feel good and are fiddly plus need to be carried. If a guy could switch his fertility off and just have sex, he’d be way happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:12 PM
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You are assuming I’m trying to be abstinent 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:07 PM
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I use the one form of birth control that works 100%, not getting laid 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:57 PM
1

For guys to be able to have pregnancy risk free sex and hookups, they’d inject it into their eyeballs if necessary. In a relationship, it’d be a toss up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:51 PM
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I don’t know about “to benefit women” but they’d take it to have sex without condoms and not worry about kids. The amount of hook ups they could have raw, those pills would be like gold dust.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:50 PM
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I hope it finds a way to rid us of gym thot fitness influences too. The AI models could have yoga pants that go impossibly far up the butt crack, and outfits so tight that the veins pop so regular models can’t compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:43 PM
1

How do you know? I’d think most guys are running from having kids like The Flash lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:40 PM
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Who would you even report it to?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:37 PM
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Very, very accurate description of what it can be like as a single guy. I’ve just been feeling the burn out of doing all that stuff and it not resulting in much. Meeting people can be like sticking to Teflon; you meet a new group of people exchange contacts. Message them then… nothing. After a while it just wears you down. Even other guys who have lucked out really can not understand how cold people can be to a lone guy trying to make new friends or find a social circle. Women have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:40 AM
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Those guys in their 30s are dating younger women, just like those women in their 20s dated guys in their 30s. Guys in their 30s come to realize that a lot of women can’t be taken seriously. The things that excite them aren’t conducive to long term relationships. They’ve seen long their friends get screwed over in divorce and it all just seems not worth intense desire we had when younger. So guys just enjoy dating for what it is and now that these women that treated them like dirt want to settle …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:27 AM
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Even though it’s an over used word, I think the reality bending blame shifting is as you say gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:25 PM
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Might as well have not gotten married and just seen the escort 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:22 PM
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They just say anything to feel like their point is right. Like this guy doesn’t flush, leaves his food plates on the floor, can’t wipe his ass, doesn’t use the shower and throws garbage on the floor. If that was true, they’d be single. The women on here will say anything to be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:21 PM
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The idea that men need to “take the hill” and women should just get to sit there is it’s own problem. Men should stop trying to earn love, while the woman get to be desired just for being. One side is meant to work themselves to an early grave to be loved and the other sees herself as a prize. That can never work long term. Not people need to be working to preserve the relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:08 PM
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Really, even with OLD, not so much anymore. They can still get guys who show interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:27 PM
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Women are just as clueless about men, they just have the upper hand by having men do the asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:02 PM
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This is what ends up happening. Genuinely good men who are honest are dismissed as “needy” for not being “mysterious” so they start looking for flings and just give up on love. 30 somethings roll around and the women that want families are ready to settle… but the guys have either found someone else or are disillusioned with serious relationships. The women now complain that there aren’t any “good men” or “emotionally available” men. The guys just learned not to take women seriously because of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:59 PM
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“Studies” I looked on of these up that someone quoted. It was a survey by Nickleodeon as a promo for their TV show that judged men as immature by criteria women set; liking video games, being competitive when playing with the children, eating junk food all resulted in men being labeled immature. No mention of watching reality TV, reading romance novels or eating lots of chocolate 🤔 While I do think women in some ways do friendship with each other better than men do, the idea that women are more …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:28 PM
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What’s frustrating about these conversations is that the women take the most extreme interpretations of something to disprove it. Guys have to constantly rework the conversation to keep it from falling off of the rails. There are many negative emotions but you ignore all of those and instead go to the extremes that make the woman the victim of some abusive man. Expressions of sadness, worry, fear, low confidence, vulnerability? Nah. You jump to the abusive expressions of anger to make your point…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:19 PM
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I don’t think guys are evaluating women like they are buying a car and asking for a list of features. The women here talk and it sounds so devoid of actually loving someone. The guy needs to sell himself like some kind of utility that meets a checklist. Most guys want someone they are physically attracted to (does not need to be some model at all), that is kind, nice to be around and they get on (share similar cultural values, have similar personalities and/or can compromise etc). I hear women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:40 PM
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I don’t even think it’s just looks. Men see a woman’s immaturity or selfishness through the lens of a million excuses why it’s okay for HER to act that way. Behavior they wouldn’t take from a guy, they accept from a woman; violence, lying, manipulation, being self centered. Men have been programmed to see these are something else or acceptable. A few examples: A woman for whatever hits a man, he hits her back. The discussion moves almost entirely to him having should not have hit her back. He sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:29 PM
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It also covers up the fact that now women have money, they don’t see the need for a man, unless he can earn way more than her. Men are viewed as ATMs. You will hear every excuse under the sun about splitting house work, emotional labor, etc but at the core of it is that they want the rights of men, without the responsibilities. A married man earns a high wage for his family, she earns a high wage for herself. She will only share if the guy is spending way more. Men have had to adjust their view …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:09 PM
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Part of the reason I can’t take this sub seriously. Convinced that a lot of the women on here are full of it. They say a lot of the right stuff but are for the most part the stereotypical rp description of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:55 PM
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Stats I heard was that when you sum hours worked and domestic work, it’s 50/50 for both men and women. I’d honestly rather be home cleaning than working extra hours in the office.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:04 AM
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If all men had to do was a bit more house work and stuff in the household, to be attractive to women, I think they’d be doing it. Heck it have pictures of me in my apron on for my dating profile with “extreme emotional laborer” and be cleaning up with women. It’s what women say they want but not what they choose at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:02 AM
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I read that and the cynic in me translates it to “big dick, tall, handsome and rich” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:55 AM
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Being a parent can put the years on. It seems so stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:53 AM
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I hope so!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:17 PM
2

Yeah. Gonna try that. Moving to a new country partly for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:14 PM
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I’ve done all of those things and depending on the city and a few other factors, it can be really disappointing. Sometimes they were awesome events but the attendance was not so great, even for making guy friends too. Sometimes it seems like women in your age bracket don’t really go out unless it is a bars or clubs. I remember at the end of University accidentally meeting some wine. Who I’d never seen out anywhere before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:29 PM
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https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw even if you are thoughtful in your messages, it really isn’t much better for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:57 PM
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How come nobody has made an app that “appeals to the female way of dating”. Doesn’t how a guy looks matter to women? Is there a meaningful way to pick someone beyond surveys, profiles and pictures? Outside of education, my experience has been that women do make more of an effort with other women as friends. They pull someone who seems cool in to the group. Guys also watch out for women a bit and bring them in to their circle (especially if she’s attractive). Unless he really clicks with the guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:54 PM
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So on a date the guy has to take you to a nice place and pay… and likely do this on every first date he has?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:47 PM
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…and force women to actually make an effort in the conversations. Guys are “thirsty” because they have to put the actual effort in to make a date happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:44 PM
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I think when women imagine 5’8” they imagine some dwarf when it’s still quite a bit taller than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:41 PM
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I’d bet that some try the app, find someone and leave/deactivate once the are in a relationship. Guys stay for the long haul just playing the odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:39 PM
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For a lot of guys, clubs/bars are also bad places to meet someone. They are inherently not great places most of the time. Women are out with a bunch of friends so starting a conversation with the one you are interested or the group can be hard. There just aren’t many great places to meet women and form natural friendships without the pressure to turn it in to a date. It’s just too much pressure on the guy in every encounter, with little chance to get to know the person first.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:37 PM
2

Or how about women do some of the approaching and asking too? Why is it all left up to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:32 PM
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I did it for the same reasons. What surprised me was the guys profiles were just as good as the women’s. Everyone trashes how men take pictures but they were pretty good. I got about 1000 likes per day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:59 PM
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If you want to really be pissed off with the apps, make a female profile and see how much better your experience is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:37 PM
2

You don’t deserve it. You might have made a bad choice but you don’t deserve to be abused.
/r/Divorce_Men16/01/23 03:01 AM
1

You mean for serious relationships or just sex?
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 09:37 PM
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I’ll add… I literally have no idea about what the right answer is to any of what you are asking. They are just things I am considering. I think it is very fair for a woman to have concerns about a guy who does the things you have listed. Those concerns would make a woman more compatible with the way I think about relationships. Women have every right to discriminate based on sexual history too but I think guys that get around are seen as highly sought after by some women, which I don’t understan…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 08:05 PM
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I’m not the person to ask. I just think it’s not a bad thing to consider anything you see as valid when dating/marrying someone.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 03:37 PM
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Let’s say a guy has a bisexual history, many women would not want to date him. Even some bisexual women won’t date bisexual men. Many men won’t care if a woman has experimented. Or a woman that has gone from guy to guy and can’t stay single. Once she isn’t 100% satisfied moves on to the next is a bad prospect for long term monogamy. Similarly a guy that was a “womanizer” or serial cheater isn’t a good prospect. He will likely cheat again. Someone that has no sexual history may also be a concern …
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 03:12 PM
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It really depends on who you are listening to.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 02:59 PM
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Sexual history matters to almost everyone. Some guys probably won’t care if they are in to open relationships. A man or woman should care if they’re partner has an odd amount of sexual partners (crazy high or low) or has some strange practices. If their sexual history predicts some kind of incompatibility in the future it’s a red flag. Sexual history matters because it is part of your entire history. It would odd not to care.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 11:50 AM
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If you have meaningful answers to their questions and issues about dating, you’ll make good progress. If you have things that actually work when trying to find a partner they find attractive, that will do far more to move people away from these ideas. Problem is no one is addressing their concerns.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 02:14 AM
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An alternative take but the need for redpill ideas in men comes from some point of deep hurt. When anyone is hurt, they want to know how to prevent it happening again. These “ideas” are meant to protect men from dating someone who will eventually deeply hurt them down the line. His worry about penis size is a male insecurity exacerbated by porn but also by the powerlessness men feel when it comes to feeling wanted in a relationship or being abandoned. “If we’re having sex, is she dreaming about …
/r/ExRedPill14/01/23 07:50 PM
1

This is definitely true but the point being made here is that men are being criticized for not having any dating success due to not meeting really basic requirements. One post I saw recently claimed the bar was so low, just “take regular showers and not be a misogynist”, as if most of the men don’t meet these requirements. It’s an insult to the men who are struggling finding someone. Instead of just acknowledging that it can be tough, they are being told they are incompetent at a basic human lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 10:25 AM
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Probably because fixing the issues is difficult without altering the business model significantly and taking advantage of people’s loneliness is very profitable. The app is there to make money number one. People in happy relationships don’t use the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:30 AM
2

You just sound human to me lol. That’s most people on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:14 PM
1

Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:24 PM
2

There are probably lots of great guys in the matches but the overwhelming volume makes finding them extremely difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:16 PM
2

Not being white seems to hurt OLD. If you are in less liberal cities, people will be less open on interracial dating. The way people date in Europe differs to America as the culture is different. If you are in Asia, being white is a huge plus not being white can make things a lot harder. My point is that even for the same person, there can be lots of other factors outside of their control that affect their success.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:51 PM
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It feels like the lottery now. After getting to see the woman’s side, I’m completely done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:48 PM
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I only started indiscriminately swiping once I got fed up of getting no matches. Once you lose the idealism of actually feeling like you have much of a choice, the mental effort of choosing is a complete waste, so I just started swiping indiscriminately to see who would match with me at all. I’d guess most guys start out like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:45 PM
2

I wanna hear more from the Stories of Chad. It should be a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 01:12 PM
1

Location, race and social circle can make a huge difference outside of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 01:05 PM
6

I think this is the unseen side of OLD. Analysis paralysis for women and just being more comfortable dating someone you’ve chatted to in person. There is no easy way to filter profiles meaningfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 01:01 PM
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“The bar is so low…”, “The bare minimum…”. These women are out of their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 12:52 PM
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Create a profile as a woman on OLD and see the disparity in how you are treated. The quality of the guys photos were just as good at the women’s. Still… I got about 1000 likes in a day as a woman, but zero in a day using a picture of a good looking man. That is just too much choice to meaningly filter. How would anyone meaningfully read 1000 profiles and pictures. Even if you spend an evening(s) going through all of them and 10% make the cut, that’s 100 conversations to manage. So you become pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 12:42 PM
0

If men didn’t have to do the pursuing and risking rejection, it would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:11 AM
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But the claim was she stays in shape… she doesn’t. The man is not the topic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:58 PM
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Longer list does not mean one person is contributing way more than the other. Doing a big difficult task can be just as consuming as lots of small tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:39 AM
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So men don’t take on any mental load when getting married. Seriously, the women I meet online overvalue what they contribute to a relationship while completely disregarding what a guy does. No wonder it is absolutely impossible to make them happy. “Mental load”, “emotional labor”… all ways of being vague about what they have to do and inflating it’s worth, while at the same time ignoring that their husbands take on responsibilities too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:26 AM
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Idiot lol. Back to FDS with you fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:22 AM
1

I have no idea why “females” like yourself feel like you can quote “statistics” without actually providing any statistics… then demand statistics. Lol. You goof. I’m not digging up your posts when you are lazy enough to only write “statistics” then have the balls to quote an anecdote at the end of your comment but dismiss mine. Still my last point stands. Either way, back to the main point, a lot of women still wouldn’t date a guy that earns the same as them and took on domestic roles 50/50. Nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 07:48 AM
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Across quite a range of cultures I have not seen any families where he is kicking his feet up chilling while she is at work. This is across some very traditional cultures… we could pull stats and anecdotes all day, the data I have seen points to men working longer hours but contributing less in the home because they aren’t there. Regarding sex, isn’t it a big assumption that because the woman orgasms less, he isn’t putting in just as much effort or more than her? Isn’t it much harder to make a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 06:15 AM
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“Even one salary is enough to raise a family”… so $100,000 which is 30,000 above average isn’t enough? Couldn’t the person who earns less stay home for a while if money is the issue? But cool… pick apart what you think is the weakest part of my comment. Is anything else I said wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:26 AM
4

Liberal women and conservative women are the same on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:21 AM
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Every answer here is some sort of deflection from the fact that some women think like your comment says. They want to earn like men but want none of the responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:54 AM
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So women don’t treat hot men differently? If he treats you like a hot woman, is he entitled to be treated like a hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:52 AM
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Like every guy on the planet is subscribed to someone’s OnlyFans. 🙄 Would you even date a guy that did?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:51 AM
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Nah. Liberal women are like that too. She can be ultra feminist and still expect the guy to ask for the date, then pay. Still wants an expensive ring and him to pay the majority of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:49 AM
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It’s not really about 50/50 it’s about the contradiction of wanting “equality” but still sticking rigidly to gender roles when it benefits. Even a guy making the same as a woman isn’t good enough in some cases. He has to be more successful than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:48 AM
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So because he did something for someone else, all women are entitled to it? What if he regrets doing that? If she put out for the past few guys she met, is he entitled to sex too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:46 AM
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Generally what I have seen is that the man works out of the house more and has to leave more chores to her. Usually, both pick up the slack in some way. If one can’t do something, the other does it and vice versa. It’s team work. Even in some really traditional countries, men and women split the chores. The women here are overvaluing what they do while undervaluing what he does. Seriously, while the “woman is working her fingers to the bone” what exactly is the man doing? Where is he? They serio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:43 AM
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You said the women stay in shape for him, when it is quite clear she doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:37 AM
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So the men don’t do those things for their wife? Or he’s not working longer hours to bring in more, doing chores, child care etc? You’re listing the basics of a marriage like you’re doing something exceptional. So many women make it sound like the guy finishes work at 3, spends the rest of the day gaming and cheating while she is his personal slave. He doesn’t have to sexually please you? He just pumps grunts and rolls over back to his Xbox for the rest of the night?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:35 AM
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This isn’t even the topic. OP asked about households not dating or hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:29 AM
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No you don’t. You both need to earn enough to stay home. If he makes 70,000 and you make 100,000 even when you take maternity leave, you guys are financially way better off than most of the population. Even one salary is enough to raise a family. The women that say stuff like this won’t date a guy earning 70,000. Also what would be wrong with him being a stay at home dad? Would any of this even change if you decided to not have kids? The real issue is that financially, women don’t like having to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:25 AM
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That really doesn’t have much to do with the topic. Marrying someone that is financially irresponsible is a bad idea no matter their sex or how much they earn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 04:19 AM
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It is more they can’t find a romantic relationship resulting in sexual contact. Paying for sex isn’t an intimate or romantic relationship. I think the sexless was is a symptom of a bigger problem. Hiring a prostitute doesn’t solve the problem.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 07:37 AM
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A 7 with her head screwed on will have a higher quality partner than a dumb super hot woman. Any man worth his salt will eventually see through looks alone. The woman with just looks will get more matches and men approaching her but will have lower quality relationships due to her personality and the type of guys she attracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:34 PM
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They don’t prefer it. They have to do it. It’s like saying women in the 50s prefer being housewives; they didn’t really have much choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:32 PM
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He could be a pushy jerk (most likely) or might feel disrespected at how you are avoiding him. Could be a guy that is frustrated with approaching and getting hurt while making himself sort of vulnerable to you. If it happens a lot, it can build up. Guys can get frustrated with online dating, going to bars or anywhere else and getting blown off. Either way, it’s not your job to “fix”. Don’t be rude if you don’t need to be but put your safety first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:41 AM
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It’s just another way of pinning the blame back on men. “The patriarchy made me do it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:34 AM
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Even “slutty” women let men make the first move lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:32 AM
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They don’t do it because it’s scary and difficult so they’d rather let the guy do it. If guys didn’t have to do it, they wouldn’t either. It’s unpleasant, doesn’t feel good, painful sometimes, embarrassing/humiliating and often has a low success to failure ratio. Every woman who I have seen try, then had it not go their way doesn’t say anything about internalized misogyny just that they quit because it didn’t turn out how they wanted. They would rather leave it to guys to do. If women can march …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:28 AM
1

Really interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:02 PM
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Also… you described men finding happiness in other things as “hedonistic yet pathetic…”. When women are happy alone, it’s empowered but when men are it’s “pathetic”. What if the guy is happier without female interaction? As usual, unless a man is living up to a woman’s ideal of what a man should be (which is usually doing stuff to please women), some see him as pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:46 AM
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Yep. It’s often AskWomen/twoX but for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:05 AM
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I think it is the opposite way around, men retreat in to video games, porn, internet etc because they don’t have anything else meaningful in their life. They have no meaningful community, relationships or people who miss them. Those things don’t keep men truly happy at all. They aren’t “hedonism” for guys, they are coping mechanisms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:57 AM
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I would guess that women have more places to vent and talk. Men are slower to open up but yeah spaces for women too are a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:06 PM
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I think this is the primary factor in a lot of social issues. In dating, it affects women less because men will still approach so women have options but it affects the quality of men they get. Without social filters to validate a man’s character, the chance to really feel a guy out they are left taking risks on guys that approach because they think the woman is hot. He may just be confident or he may be someone that doesn’t respect social boundaries. For men, they relied on these social networks…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:03 PM
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We need both. Sex segregated events and sex integrated. But I do think men need their own spaces which they don’t have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:47 PM
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Yeah. That rejection because of weight can be a monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:41 PM
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If you had to make the move 100% of the time do you think things would feel different? Or if the person you liked would 0% of the time make the first move but expected you to. If you had no sense of actually feeling innately desired but had to do take some kind of risk for someone to potentially show any interest in you, would that change things? What if you reaching out was more often that not met with hostility, indifference, rudeness and flaking?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:41 AM
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Even one of the women on here was like “I do 50% of the asking out”… Hmmm but how would doing 100% of the asking out feel, never having the experience of being asked out and then you doing all of this leg work being seen as “the bare minimum”? I don’t think they get that asking someone out a few times compared to it being your only dating strategy is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:33 AM
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I think it would psychologically break a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:00 PM
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It had nothing to do with the interview. I would have turned it around on Piers and said his negative (racist, just throw that in there to piss him off) attitude towards Megan probably hurt a bunch of young black children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:39 PM
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If this would happen instead of women just demanding more and constantly telling men to change, dating would generally improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:13 PM
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Yep. You can just reduce a complicated behavior to a single issue. 🙄 You also just moved the goal post from someone blowing up over some thing small, to them consistently doing it. not really, its pretty easy to observe someone blowing up over something little and realize that they don't know how to regulate their emotions. So after viewing one event, you could “easily” remote diagnose someone as needing therapy (even therapists can’t do that).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:14 PM
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Someone losing it might have just had a bad day, but when you can tell there is something way deeper going on is when they need to see someone. Normal people can blow after a very frustrating day. Simply “regulating emotions” (is that the hot phrase now) doesn’t mean a person is well adjusted. When they say something along the lines of “your just like my father, who left” that’s a different story. When their reaction to a situation brings unwarranted feelings, thoughts and experiences from past …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:59 PM
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Which is why when you see someone and say “you need therapy” something is REALLY wrong. Most people learn to mask their psychological issues. Before the phrase became popular a year ago, I had said it exactly to one person in my life, and it wasn’t in a dismissive “I’m better than you, do the work” sense. More in a, “this helped me stop making the same cognitive mistakes you are”. Nowadays it’s a dismissive way of saying “I’m not interested for reason X, you did something I don’t like (even if i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:54 PM
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You’re not a foodie? Boring!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:10 AM
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That’s the exception though. Ask any woman where the majority of her dates and relationships come from, it’s been a guy asking her out. Women do not take the initiative and risk rejection like men do. It’s not even something debatable. Sure once in a while a woman will pursue, I have had it too but for the most part, they drop hints, they make extra long eye contact or whatever and they guy has to pick up on her signals. Very few women put themselves out there even if they really like they guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:47 AM
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Irrelevant to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:52 PM
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If you barely knew someone and said “you need to see a dentist” something is seriously wrong with them… to see something wrong with someone psychologically is another level of something being wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:51 PM
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I think part of why men commit suicide because they are socialized to be tools of resource extraction and protection, at the expense of their well being. If we raised men to care about themselves as much as they care about they women they are trying to attract or protect we’d have a less successful society but with more stable and happier men. Women on this sub want to play both sides. They want equality, while having successful men that strive for success, while having emotionally stable men. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:18 PM
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Your prior comment? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:57 PM
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Okay sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:56 PM
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Lemme guess… If I say “no”, you will say “so you aren’t qualified to speak then (mic drop)” if I say yes, you’ll say “well you don’t know about my particular case!!! (Mic drop)” It’s a no win question and completely irrelevant to the discussion. This sub is a debate not an academic forum. Get over yourself. I’ve done a lot therapy; CBT, dynamic psychotherapy, some other shit I don’t know the name of. This talk of “therapy” making men better partners has some very valid merit but also is bs. It’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:56 PM
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Definitely not but for someone to make the observation “you need therapy” is extreme. For someone in a regular interaction to say that indicates that your issues are very abnormal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:45 PM
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Not even the topic of conversation of if women could. You said most women wouldn’t give a “flying fuck”. Women would quickly descent in to class warfare where the women at the top would force the women at the bottom to do the crappy jobs. Women would care very greatly about being “drafted” in to men’s positions. Some of them would require expertise that would have disappeared from the planet. Some would require physical strength that 99.9% of women don’t have. If you think women wouldn’t care ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:41 PM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:18 PM
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Hmmm… so when the power cuts out and won’t turn on, heating stops working, food supply ends, manufacturing, emergency services, transportation and general social infrastructure stop working… women would be completely fine? If men vanished from the planet instantly, the world would descend in to chaos in under 24 hours. Delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:30 PM
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Her reply along with a few other posts like it are the completely delusional. I’ve been noticing it more recently but some women are overvaluing what they do while completely ignoring what men do to make society even possible. The lack of awareness is obscene. She literally sat there on a man built chair, in a man built building, on a computer/phone made of man extracted resources, using energy that men have generated, using internet cables that men have laid, typed that message out and hit send…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:25 PM
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So most women are good at sex? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:18 AM
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So most women are good at sex? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:17 AM
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I typically require a bit of time getting to know a man before I desire him enough to have sex with him, and simply did not find any available men I had sufficient chemistry with to reach that point. I’m a guy who is exactly like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:12 AM
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The idea that women are some emotional geniuses who “regulate men’s emotions” despite it being quite obvious most women have no idea how men’s minds work is laughable. They aren’t even aware they don’t understand men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:13 AM
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The amount of delusion in what some women think they do in a relationship and what men don’t is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:36 AM
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You’re seriously telling me the average wife comes home, to her husband with his feet kicked up on the couch watching TV, expecting her to cook, clean up, take care of the kids, feed the animals, hand wash the laundry before pleasing him for the night? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:35 AM
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Ah this bullshit narrative again. A women cooks a microwave dinner so that makes a her a gourmet chef. A woman listens about his day work = fully qualified psychotherapist. She moves in (not paying rent btw) and they split some chores = she’s his full time maid. She reminds him about a mutual friends birthday = she’s his executive assistant. She lays on her back while he works up a sweat and she is an experienced high end sex worker. You can’t be serious? “Regulate his emotions”, “managing his s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:31 AM
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And married people BOTH live longer. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7452000/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:21 AM
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You mean women need to contribute to keeping the relationship exciting too? 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:19 AM
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Well what do women do to create romance in a relationship? Mostly they complain about a lack of it but contribute very little towards it. Have you ever thought of doing things to make a man want to take you out or be romantic? It’s all on the guy to guess what she wants and make her feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:18 AM
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married womens life expectancy goes down and married men's goes up. So of course, once separated, she is relieved, her situation is improving. Once separated his situation gets worse. Not true. Both married men and women live longer. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7452000/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:14 AM
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Every time I have just met someone (I am talking just found out their name) and they dump their problems on to me it’s been a woman. In terms of a relationship, why wouldn’t a woman want a guy to share his problems with her? And don’t women rely on their boyfriends as shoulders to cry on?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:09 AM
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I honestly don’t think the women that say stuff like have any idea what you learn in therapy. They are also unaware that men process and deal with their emotions differently from women. They expect a guy to come out of therapy and emotionally act the same as her or get her emotions… he’s not the same as you. Most men aren’t walking around as ticking time bombs the same as most women aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:06 AM
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It’s the new dismissive gaslighting phrase that came about after that trash psychology today article. It doesn’t even make sense to say unless someone has severe psychological issues. It’s just another ring on the ladder of expectations for men, even if it makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:02 AM
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When is say “the issue” I am referring to it being a topic not a problem. If unattractive women want to rate them selves 11/10 go ahead. Self-esteem is like a muscle You pulled that out of nowhere. Zero proof that simply “exercising” it gives you more self esteem. If I turn down every woman on the planet does that give me high self esteem? And yet they’re faring better with their elevated images of themselves than a PPD OP who is down on himself and expects to world to follow suit. This isn’t ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:51 AM
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Women don’t even need to risk being turned down, just breaking the ice will put her far above women that wait for a man to talk to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:34 AM
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Yep. This is the only real advantage I have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:31 AM
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Can we see the data?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:29 AM
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She’s completely delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:24 AM
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women build communities and create offspring men compete to be part of that Men create infrastructure, resources and safety for those communities to exist. Men are just as vital maybe even more. Without men’s contributions society would crumble in days. Like I have been seeing recently, women are valuing what they do highly (sometimes validly, sometimes to an absurd extreme) while ignoring what men do. The idea from your post that women bring all of the value to society and men are begging to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:20 AM
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That’s just not the way it works. Women generally do things to attract men, they invest heavily in their looks and will flirt. They guy still has to do the pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:06 AM
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No. Men are expected to do the pursuing. Even if the woman is the most interested, she still expects the man to make the first move. Men doing the pursuing has nothing to do with an men needing women more than women needing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:07 PM
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In real life, a woman can know your vibe, have an exact idea of what she is getting, you can make her laugh, share common interests. You are way more real than a message in her inbox. That post is 100% wrong. OLD is dating on hard mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:55 PM
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What worked for you fixing your online dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:51 PM
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It’s advice that sounds great but honestly the results can vary greatly. Depending on where you live, it can just be a poor strategy to meet someone unfortunately. This is a symptom of something being wrong in society, there is no real community. Especially now when you are out, women don’t seem to be really looking because they already have lots of attention, matches, etc. They are happy to talk endlessly, but already have boyfriends. The strategy can work but depending on the city the person e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:50 PM
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Sex does not cure loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:38 PM
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I think it’s that on looks alone, most men aren’t attractive enough. Online dating, or clubs play to men’s weaknesses in attracting women. I think a scenario where women got to know guys, develop trust build some familiarity etc would favor men more. Guys that were meh, would actually become attractive but those opportunities are rarer now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:37 PM
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I just don’t believe this. They go out and dress up partly to do this but they still want male attention/validation. Nobody has made a women’s only club. Women will even go to gay clubs (I have heard this is becoming it’s own problem) but still want male attention. They leave lesbian clubs alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:33 PM
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Keep looking man and working on yourself. It’s all you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:29 PM
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Yeah. These posts about women being happy alone are just lies. They can be alone, but once they realize that they might be alone permanently, different story. I am expecting psychology today to have articles asking men to “step up” and asking where all the good men are in the next 10 years. Nobody wants to be alone or is happy without companionship, men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:27 PM
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For men, “subpar” is way below average. Obese, unpleasant to be around, stupid…. For a guy, being cute, fun, pleasant to be around puts her pretty high up. She can be a very normal everyday woman. For some women, subpar means a normal guy. Unless he is exceptional, he’s subpar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:23 PM
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Where did I ever say women should suppress their own market value? I’d love to see women maintain their own self esteem while they were the ones that have to make the first move and deal with direct rejection. You can carry yourself all you want but it all falls apart when they weight of making an interaction happen is on your shoulders. It’s not that women’s strategy is better, it’s that their side of the interaction is easier. Being passive is easier than being active. The people I am talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:18 PM
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The issue is that when you read articles and posts, very basic women seem to think they are way above the men that are their equals. They complain of a “skills deficit” (when they too are poor communicators), want men that earn more than them and have a set of requirements that they don’t meet. Their “raising their standards” is really them picking the hottest guy they can who won’t ever take them seriously because outside of convenient sex, they have nothing to offer. The current tide in articl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:57 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xy1yd5/women_are_not_wrong_in_saying_that_the_average/irfn38r/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:46 PM
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It is not that men ‘need’ women, it’s that the social norm is for men to do the pursuing. A woman can do next to nothing and fall in to some kind of relationship. Being the active agent changes things. Guys seem desperate and in need of women because they have to act first. It’s like saying a door to door salesman needs the customer. In reality they both need each other (if the product is at all decent) but one has to put way more explicit effort in to making a transaction happen. Women are “con…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:45 PM
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Love your content! I have heard that the STEM figure leaves out biology and medicine which women are very well represented in. If you include those it’s around 50/50.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/22 08:27 PM
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Male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:46 PM
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Yup. Even if the group was established to help boys/men in an area where they are not doing well, cry oppression Andean will roll over.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:31 PM
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This happened with the Men’s Sheds in Australia. From what I know they were originally very successful with getting older women to socialize by having tea/coffee events. Women were really happy to sit together and chat They had no success with doing the same with men. Someone had the idea of having sheds where men could make stuff and it took off. Men were having a great time socializing and chatting while working. Eventually the women cried foul that these places were only for men and got acces…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:21 PM
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I saw a comment about a “study” showing that women were more mature than men. The source of the study when you dig deeper was a … survey by Nickelodeon as promo for a show. It only asked women of their opinions and the results were of the type “him liking stuff that I don’t, makes him immature” (liking video games, skateboarding, being competitive, silly jokes etc…) we’re all reasons why they saw men as less immature. Ironically, isn’t not being able to accept that someone’s interests and hobbie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 03:47 AM
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This is what makes me laugh about these articles; they are bashing men for not being emotionally available, but trashing them for being lonely. So when a man does have some sort of emotion, it is seen as grounds for mockery and insult. The condescending tone of the article, assuming that men are a bunch of toddlers who need to step up and be more like women, underlines that the people talking are a big part of the problem. Ironically, they are so un self-aware that they can’t see they are creati…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/22 09:37 AM
1

It’s low quality “red pill” content that is trash. Andrew Tate says a few interesting things but he is a self absorbed, misogynist jerk. Kids listening to him are going to go off the deep end. He deserved to be banned but not for the misinformation about things he hadn’t done.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 09:54 AM
0

Women who are like that think empathy is sympathizing with their issues. The idea that it is reciprocated doesn’t even register.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:40 AM
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Just like the psychology today article, when men aren’t doing well, they are berated and shamed because it’s “all their dumb fault”. Then we complain that men don’t open up. Why would they when they are insulted for it and told how crap they are? These spaces love to take the worst of men and pretend they are the general case because if it turned out, kind considerate interesting and otherwise well adjusted men were in pain, it would require empathy. Even the phrase “nice guy” used to actually m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:34 AM
1

Unfortunately, I have mostly started keeping my male and female friends apart. It’s just too much trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:25 AM
0

I think a single father is more likely to realize they can’t do everything alone when it comes to understanding their child’s lives. They are more likely to bring someone in when they encounter something they don’t get. I usually see the women think they know everything. They know how to raise a man and can be the father. There is a point as a teenager when you realize your mother just does not understand your life. The kid is often bigger than her and stronger. A teenager just isn’t smart enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:52 AM
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That’s a matter of perception. A lot of what guys and fathers do is taken for granted. Father’s Day is barely celebrated. But really, I have seen a lot of parental alienation. Fathers that want to be in their child’s lives but the mother does everything she can to keep the child away as punishment for things not working out. It’s a mixed bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:39 AM
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It’s such a large extrapolation. “The sun rose, so I expect it to continue rising until it never comes back.” It’s redpill fantasy. There are so many other confounding factors. I would expect that to happen if there was some kind of wide scale financial collapse that never recovered. We are on the way to that but likely the market would have to correct itself or lose much of the workforce. This in turn might make crime less appealing than jobs who’s wages would have to rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:16 AM
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I’d guess the combination of single parenthood along with poverty, with the latter being the primary factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:08 AM
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That is the extreme worst case and mothers like this exist too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:05 AM
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It’s just more complicated than men abandoning some kids. Some fathers are driven away. The mother can be abusive, may take the child and move away, use the courts against him. Denying the father access is one of her punishments for things not working out because she blames him. There is a lot more to the story than the black and white picture of men abandoning their kids. Some women choose men that have a history of not being in the child’s life or have multiple children by different women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:56 PM
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I have heard that one parent not being in the house leads to worse outcomes, so no mother would be a bad thin too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:46 PM
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I know how you feel. I don’t mind a little weight if she carrys it well but that is the rarity. Marshmallow women aint for me. While not a chonker, I am working on my weight due to health issues. I look relatively in shape but weigh more than I should and it is visceral fat (the worst kind for health). It makes me a long term heart attack risk which I don’t want to offer to a wife or kids. When I feel like I just should do better I mostly take myself off of the dating market. Even if an amazing …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:13 AM
1

It’s fatties I would never touch What if they are really good at eating ass? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:18 PM
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Marriage would be like a job but people would be banging left right and center. The sexual market just becomes a sexual black market. It would go underground.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:47 AM
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I’d consider that “their money” might not be their money depending on the economic paradigm you look at things through. That money could come through wage theft, tax avoidance, unfair laws, corruption etc. even though they technically own it, is it truly theirs? Do the 1% really have the right to own most of the worlds wealth? The rules we live by were created by the wealthy in the first place so the game is rigged in their favor. They might not be “giving their money away” but returning it to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:13 AM
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Hey there EatMyAssssssss 😂 I’d suggest being open to the idea that intellectual ability and intelligence aren’t only conferred by degree certificates. Some people only did undergrad or went in to trades but are extremely intelligent. If you think a masters makes someone “intellectually on your level” you might pass up some really good matches who are just as or even more intelligent than you but didn’t spend thousands on a course. You can see way more about someone’s intellect through getting to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:07 AM
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Another solution would be men stop almost exclusively shouldering the responsibility of initiating and pursuing. Having to do the work and deal with rejection takes your expectations down a few pegs and normalizes your self perception around what your actual SMV is. Most guys know they likely can’t get that 10/10 because the rejection has forced them to evaluate themselves more accurately. As a result they have to bring some of their expectations down and find value in other things. What do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:04 AM
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Another solution would be men stop almost exclusively shouldering the responsibility of initiating and pursuing. Having to do the work and deal with rejection takes your expectations down a few pegs and normalizes your self perception around what your actual SMV is. Most guys know they likely can’t get that 10/10 because the rejection has forced them to evaluate themselves more accurately. As a result they have to bring some of their expectations down and find value in other things. What do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:01 AM
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“A person that claims that aliens don’t exists, clearly doesn’t hangout with aliens” It is an accepted fact that men are the ones that initiate most of the time. There may be pockets here and there but for the most part women do not initiate, even if they really like you. They may give out “signs” but they expect the guy to act on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:40 AM
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It’s gonna be like Wall E but the human race is obliterated by sex dolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:31 AM
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Not even interested in owning one but why should they be banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:29 AM
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They aren’t a good enough replacement… yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:29 AM
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“Submission” is such a vague word. On one hand it could mean this domination of the woman by the man. On the other hand and what I think a lot of guys mean is, be easy to get along with, be supportive, be cooperative, when you want me to lead, let me lead, do things to take care of me and make me feel loved (besides sex). Some women both want their men to lead but then want to fight them every step of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:23 AM
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I am of opposing views. Firstly the 20s aren’t really the age when people are ready to get married in the west. Especially guys. Still getting established. Still finding their worth, still building character. For women, I would say the same but biology is still the limiting factor. Women do have way more options than men during their 20s. For their relative attractiveness levels, they will have more choices than their male counterparts by very many orders of magnitude. The downsides of this is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:26 PM
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TheRedPill sub is mostly trash. The red pill/manosphere on YouTube is a mixed bag of really good and trash. Men’s spaces are marginalized, shamed and shutdown. Almost any thread talking about how women can harm men are often locked. Incel and MRA are used as pejoratives. When the first is a serious issue for a person due to multiple factors and the second is an advocacy group for men’s issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:05 AM
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It’s pointless arguing with anyone about your struggles. You can talk to women and let them know the truth. You can even debate them about the garbage men go through. The ones that get it have some empathy towards men. Arguing with them is pointless. If they don’t want to accept it and are in the “women are always the victim even when they have the upper hand” mode, they will never see you’re sure. They refuse to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 09:34 AM
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Even if you aren’t rich, losing your house and having your wages garnished is still really bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:35 AM
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When he is in the room watch a video of Aba and Preach roasting Fresh and Fit. They did not come out of that looking good.
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 10:49 AM
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It depends what you mean by “redpill” if it is the subreddit, than yeah avoid that. But realizing that women can be as crappy as men or that the present dating/marriage paradigm is very broken is true. If you feel angry towards women in general, that is a red flag. Some people go through “redpill rage” but what they are angry about is being lied to about women. Being told to give your heart but accept bad treatment or little in return. Or being told that they are so much better than men. “Happy …
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 08:16 AM
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How did they find out it was her?
/r/MensRights13/05/22 02:59 AM
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What exactly is “leaving red pill” really? It means so many different things depending on where you are. On Reddit it’s the cringy sub, on YouTube it is the Manosphere with a reasonably diverse set of ideas. In a documentary I saw it was the most misogynistic cringeworthy thing I’d ever seen. There are some valid ideas in RP just as there is a lot of BS. Should the ideas KS had about self improvement, realistic expectations, women if they want marriage and kids, not blowing off their 20s and 30s…
/r/ExRedPill12/05/22 11:08 AM
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Well, RoocheV is a bit of an PUA dickhead who I thought you might now. I’m not American either so 🤷‍♂️ What I mean by ‘want’ is that who I am and what I offer is good enough for them to desire me. If that is not enough than might as well spend my time seeing sexworkers and getting random hookups. Way less costly. If you think you are in an LTR but the person you are with doesn’t desire/want you, might as well be single. They don’t even like you. You aren’t even friends, just convenient for each …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:02 AM
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Why? Is not wanting casual sex a bad thing? Or is wanting to feel wanted a bad thing? I am genuinely curious. You sound like I have just quoted some DoocheV material and raged at all woman kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:21 AM
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For myself, not really keen on casual sex. I want emotional connection too. I want emotional safety and not worrying about this woman turning in to an absolute psycho. Saying that, just like I will take McDonalds in a pinch (but don’t want it) I’ll take casual sex if that is all that’s out there. Most guys could pay for sex, it’s just that what guys really want can’t be bought. Someone that likes you isn’t a commodity. Once the clock runs out, she’s gone. I think women also don’t get to have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:51 AM
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Show her this video https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:44 AM
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Pretty odd question but just try to meet some cool ones. Take dating and relationships off the table and just interact. There are some really cool interesting women out there. Also on Twitter/social media follow some women who are doing interesting stuff and not trying to play off their looks to get attention. Women are just as intelligent and interesting as men with a bit of a different flavor to guys that is pretty awesome.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 05:47 PM
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It was almost the opposite. He praised blue collar men and told women they were good picks. They could make amazing amounts of money and he chastised women for looking down in them. They were the ones that made modern life possible. He did seem to have respect for normal men. They just weren’t what women considered “high value”. He even said this was not a phrase he created. One thing I didn’t like is that he didn’t seem to make an effort to promote the non-superficial parts of his beliefs. They…
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 10:00 AM
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His followers were like a cult. That chat was so keen to deepthroat him and anyone that wasn’t 110% onboard was attacked.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 09:51 AM
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His reported corporate history was questionable. Some people believed there were holes in his story.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 05:55 PM
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His point about HVMs was not clear and my interpretation of it was that the label was not one he created. He actually said good things about blue collar workers and that often they make great money but women don’t want blue collar guys. He seemed to think regular guys were a good fit for women but that “regular women don’t want regular guys” I was not a big watcher but if you got past the shock jock parts of his content, his message had a bit more nuance than it appeared. I did not agree with a …
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 05:53 PM
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I don't think red-pill created it for them. Most of them would in no way spend their time in the "manosphere" listening to points that don't validate them. I think their outlandish expectations has caused them to dismiss good men that would be great fits because they aren't 6ft 5 with huge bank balances. There are good men that are high value in terms on loyalty, kindness, faithfulness etc that I think some women have no interest in. They are even good looking guys but the women that call think …
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 03:48 PM
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Why?
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 03:25 PM
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Yep. He did encourage therapy but where are you going to find a therapist that is brutally honest with you sometimes.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 01:11 PM
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I don’t even think that it is even gold digging and I never said I thought all women were like this. Just seen and experienced it many times where when a man is suddenly vulnerable, some women lose respect for him. Quite a few threads in Askmen or wherever confirm this. Seen to much of women losing respect for men that earn less.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 01:09 PM
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It should be!
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 01:07 PM
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I think it is the delusion. Women with 3 kids by 4 fathers and are obese, that want to believe they are the exception. Others who think that he can help but ignore their very obvious flaws and then some who are attractive and just want validation. Some are just desperate for answers. I don’t know why some think he or others are experts and their issues can be diagnosed with self reporting and 3 minute call. Sometimes it’s obvious but other times the idea that some “guru” immediately knows the an…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 11:40 AM
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I honestly don't understand why they keep calling in but it speaks to women liking assholes and the delusional nature of some of the callers. Some of them knew they had the looks and youth to get a favorable opinion but many of them...
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 10:41 AM
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Any relationship is a trade. We trade our time, sex, affections, money, exclusivity, fidelity, love, effort etc with each other. Some women do trade sex for money, safety etc. And some men trade vice versa. There are some women that would never do what you have done. They would lose respect for a man they had to provide for. I think women like you are the exception, rather than the rule. The relationship I desire is that we bring whatever we can to the table. The core of it is our love for each …
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 10:33 AM
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Yeah. I'm not super chivalrous but something about being that hard on women off the bat, just rubs me the wrong way. Shouldn't even do it to guys too. He just came across as a bully on the calls. Wish he calmed down a bit. Sometimes he was right but sometimes it was just over the top. I think he leaned in to the outrage and offense because it was excellent marketing but as a person, it just made him seem like not such a great guy. He would also do stuff that was just disrespectful to callers and…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 10:25 AM
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Yeah. Pretty much my feelings. Sad that he is gone. I wish that his message evolved to be more inclusive of better concepts and a healthier message. I did not like the transactional nature of his idea or the sometimes cruel belittling of his guests. Some of what he had to say were good points and sometimes he was completely right about some of the delusional callers. The harshness of some of his opinions was pretty bad sometimes. I sometimes understood why he was so harsh as some of the callers …
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 08:02 AM
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I just think they need to risk some rejection or at least put some work in to meeting people. They just wait for the perfect guy to meet them but sometimes if the situation is not inviting, genuinely good guys won’t approach. Players are willing to approach anytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:17 PM
1

Can you imagine how bad it is now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:09 AM
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With less risk or stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:58 AM
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When often she is just his hard up end of the night lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:56 PM
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POW. Awesome answer.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/22 11:53 PM
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You didn’t get the “choose your illness” form at the Annual Patriarchy Meeting?
/r/FeminismStopsWhen02/04/22 11:14 AM
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If I approach. I usually notice something unique about them and pay them a compliment. If they aren’t interested, I at least made someone feel a bit better about themselves. Cold approaching is okay, just be considerate of their time, safety and space. It is better to offer them your number so they can decide if they want to contact you. Be pleasant and don’t take too much of their time or put them under pressure.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/22 05:05 PM
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If you cold approach, just be considerate of the persons space and safety. Make sure they don’t feel trapped or pressured. Nothing wrong with speaking to strangers. If you don’t cold approach, you pretty much have zero dating options.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/22 04:59 PM
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When I visited there weren’t many good looking women compared to other places.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:35 AM
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Korea too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:28 AM
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Easy. Men don’t think they are superior to women in every way. Never in my life heard a man say this. If anything in some ways men are subservient to what women want from men, in other ways women are to what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:43 AM
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I think it can depend on your attributes. Some people can work on themselves a little, stand up straight, smile, go out and have a big change in results. For other people race, height, location, looks, social economic factors etc can really make things much harder. These ‘statistics’ can give a sense of justification and comfort for their difficulties. But they become a self fulfilling prophecy. They become a reason not to try and sit back angrily not participating in dating.
/r/ExRedPill08/03/22 03:13 PM
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Yep. 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 02:24 PM
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Some will do the fake reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 02:20 PM
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For first date no, because it ends up with guys paying for 99% of dates. I think longer in the relationship when people know what they want that is possibly a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 02:17 PM
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Yep. Starting a relationship should be like starting any friendship. All of these expectations are ruining relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:42 PM
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Do men really want to be catered to? I just want some balance in the gender dynamics. Seems like women want the best of being a man and a woman while there is not much advantage for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:21 PM
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I want the money of sex work without doing any sex.
/r/AntiFeminists05/03/22 06:19 AM
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Please tell more. This is hilarious. I want to see this car crash.
/r/AntiFeminists05/03/22 06:19 AM
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They had a choice. The men didn’t.
/r/AntiFeminists05/03/22 03:56 AM
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Can’t they also blame men for the good stuff in society too?
/r/AntiFeminists05/03/22 03:55 AM
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That’s a trash and pretty hateful comment. Not a bit of truth in that.
/r/AntiFeminists05/03/22 03:51 AM
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Somehow they will claim that women not dying in media at the same rates as men is misogyny.
/r/AntiFeminists05/03/22 03:50 AM
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Why aren’t companies like Amazon and Tesla moving to Utah? They could make a 35% saving in wages if they went there and hired only women. They are happy to exploit both in their factories and warehouses so why not?
/r/AntiFeminists05/03/22 03:41 AM
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What I am seeing at least online is that many women feel that because they have careers and can make money, the man needs to make even more money. Despite having enough, they want even more. A the woman might be making around average salary but wants a man making way more than her because a guy that can’t upgrade her lifestyle is pointless. At least two said so in this post. As an example a woman teacher would think a male teacher is not good enough. He has to be a couple of steps above her to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:01 AM
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Men don’t aim for the best looking women when they are looking for a partner. They might try it at the club but experience shows that looks do not mean she will be a good ‘catch’. They aim for a woman that they find attractive with other qualities that matter such as personality, integrity, personality compatibility, being smart and other things that a relationship can be based on. A woman being too good looking might even be a disqualifying factor. I have had older men warn me about marrying ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:49 AM
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Some women actually think that unless a guy can provide an upgrade to her lifestyle, the guy is worthless. Women that think like that should go in to escorting or sugar dating and leave the dating pool alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:41 AM
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I don’t think most women think like this. OP is delusional. I really hope she posts again in 20 years. Cats, frazzled eggs, cheap white wine, “where are all the good men”, the one that got away. It’s gonna be immense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:48 PM
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It’s ridiculous. I am glad these greedy materialistic freeloaders are exposing themselves. They sound like glorified sugar babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:38 PM
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When he says “average” I think he means normal. A good looking in shape guy in earning $80,000, living in the suburbs, with character, a good heart, integrity, who’d make a good father and husband isn’t a HVM to a lot of women. He’s average to them because he may ‘only’ be 5’10 not drive a fancy car, have a flashy lifestyle etc. These women want CEOs while overlooking some really good men and the criteria they are using to filter these men out are extremely superficial. The first thing that come…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:36 PM
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Yep. To some women, unless a guy is extraordinary, he’s average. Even if she is below average in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:28 PM
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But the criteria of what makes him the ‘best’ might be wrong. Most of the talk in this thread seems to revolve around finances. A guy being rich tall and handsome does not mean he is automatically a great partner. If you can get a guy that is all of those things and a good person than go for it. But being blinded by money, status etc and ignoring guys who have character, integrity, morals will be many women’s downfall. These can even be good looking guys but because they aren’t exceptional they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:26 PM
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Unless the guy is extraordinary, he’s average. I think the growth in the “Manosphere” on YT is due to these delusional standards. Sometimes obese, broke women with kids look down on men that that have nothing to offer, thinking they can do better. Even if OP is a 10/10 in terms of looks, her criteria for judging men is so warped, she will likely end up alone or choosing the wrong guy. It’s really ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:19 PM
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Nope. It’s to get money out of someone apparently. Even this concept of an “average man” is absurd. It sounds like something that falls off a production line and comes in a generic label. There are lots of average (a better way to say would be normal or everyday) people who have wonderful qualities, character, morals, great personalities, warm hearts, integrity, great parenting skills and many other things that can’t be measured on whatever goofy chart OP is using. These guys being overlooked by…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:09 PM
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Yeah. My point is that height is not the end of his dating life, it just does not work well online.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:11 AM
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Yep. I feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:40 PM
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At some point women have to accept the responsibilities of earning more money. If they want 50% of the leadership positions, that comes with the responsibility of having to provide and marry ‘down’ more frequently. Both earning more and expecting to marry someone that earns even more than you can’t work long term. It will throw society off balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:37 AM
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I think the “who has it worse” question is pointless. I think it is enough to realize that each side has significant issues and being a man wouldn’t mean you are gonna live a life of ‘privilege’ and relative ease compared to women. Once you say one side has it easier, people start go generalize and look down on each other. But being a man can be really rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:34 AM
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I really think these replies just smell of BS. The women have decided ‘no’ and are now inventing reasons why they aren’t interested. “Too athletic”, “too active”, “too driven”… yeah alright. Like they really wouldn’t give a guy that ticked a bunch of boxes a chance because he was too much. At the top of the list I would guess is color. Being black and in certain locations can make dating pretty hard unless you tick every box and/or are a bit of a stereotype. Even pretty average white dudes do be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 09:59 AM
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Color and location can really play a huge part. Depending on where he is, I can bet that if he moved he’d probably do much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 09:43 AM
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Likely race and location unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:53 AM
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I don’t find it racist. The reason for the preference might be racist but you don’t have to be attracted to everyone. I’m not in to most white women but there are a few I think are stunning. It just is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:47 AM
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Yep. People watch porn and think dating as a black guy is easy. Just whip out the 12 inch and girls com flocking. In reality, a black guy has to tick off a few more boxes to date well depending on location.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:42 AM
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Race can play a factor too. Despite what porn tells you, dating as a black guy can be pretty hard depending on where you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:39 AM
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Trans people report being more respected and listened to at work when they present as male. On the other hand, I think some women really believe every male gets to be the CEO of the company at the same time. They don’t realize that the huge majority of men don’t get any respect by default. At best he gets to tell people exactly what they are expected to say. If that man dares deviate off script, he’s tossed into the garbage. In general, I think women are more outspoken and more willing to give p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:02 PM
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When I hear spark, I think people want instant fireworks and feelings on the first conversation. Its a ridiculous standard to judge anyone by.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:08 PM
2

I think it is just an instant exciting connection. Expecting it the first time meeting for a serious relationship is unrealistic and impractical. Sometimes you can’t really tell what is awesome about a person until you have been around them for a while. Sometimes a person becomes beautiful in a profound way after knowing them for a bit. I think the “kiss test” is a good physical standard. If they are someone you’d kiss, give them a chance. If not, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:07 PM
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My answer exactly. Both people should try to do things to please each other sometimes when they don’t feel like it. If they are in a state where they need/want to say ‘no’ that’s okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 11:07 PM
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I was talking in the abstract not in your particular case. I said nothing about ADHD or OCD. In the case where a guy is working longer hours to provide is he a jerk for wanting his wife to take care of the house while he cannot? Same if the roles were reversed. Is the person working longer hours a jerk for wanting the things they don’t have time to do taken care of by the person with more time?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:42 PM
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Well mostly if he is bringing in the majority of the income, he is likely working more hours too. He is also likely working a job that is more exhausting. Last I heard, when you add up the hours worked inside and outside the house, it was about even between men and women. If he is getting home late trying to provide more for the family, is he really a jerk for letting his wife handle the house work? Also I’m not a redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:38 PM
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He’s bringing in the majority of the income?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:28 PM
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People seriously think this happens then at the end of the night he drops his pants and expects to get laid while his wife is in an exhausted heap. But he can’t figure out why she is never in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:57 PM
1

You’re gonna have to at least look in STEM/professional rich places. The randoms from general population like dating apps would just be too low frequency matches for what you want. What sucks is that there is a lack of community where people can vet and recommend people to date. I am in a similar position to you but doing it as a guy. I am thinking of leaving the country I am in because finding someone I click with on that level just is not likely. The women I want to meet likely aren’t in the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:21 PM
1

It’s not that bad out there (depends on the country)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:10 PM
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No, a lot of women want a relationship with someone that out values them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:08 PM
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And bearded ladies!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:07 PM
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And at the end of it, if you can win the ‘prize’ of taking her on a date, you’ve got to pay. Screw all that who asked who, women want men to pay at the end of doing all of the heavy lifting. If you meet someone, she wants ‘sparks’ on the first date, even though in reality getting to know and like someone takes time. It’s exhausting. I’ve stopped caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:06 PM
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And you can bet that that man is also working a full time job plus longer hours. I don’t get how people think a guy just gets home, kicks his feet up and plays games while his wife is cooking dinner, cleaning and taking care of the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:53 AM
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When women make these gestures, they are returning what a guy has done for them or hoping to get something way more in return. A games console would come after a guy has spent way more money on her than she has on him or she is hoping for something from him. I can bet very few women give freely like men do. When a woman spends money on a man, pays for a date, etc, he has already spent way more on her or she is hoping to later get more out of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 10:44 PM
2

I think it is a bit of envy. A lot of men would love to be objectified by someone they thought was attractive even if they had to deal with some that weren’t. Just feeling desired for once, without the pressure to make all of the moves, is something a lot of guys don’t get to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:34 PM
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I don’t think that video is an admission. I seriously doubt anyone is dumb enough to go on TV to advocate that boys as young as 11 have access to a date rape drug. Spanish Fly is meant to be an aphrodisiac and while I do think that it is very wrong to give someone something without them knowing, this has nothing to do with the allegations that he used drugs to knock women out then rape them.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 06:01 PM
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The key point is that under patriarchy as they theorize these things cannot exist. These facts disprove the idea that we live in a system entirely designed to benefit men over women.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 03:09 PM
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It’s not a patriarchy if it benefits women over men.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 03:06 PM
1

A lot of games are just big grinds now. RPG mechanics, dlc etc. I see NG+ as an admission that the game isn’t fun enough to do it all again. So bored of open worlds too.
/r/MGTOW221/12/20 01:38 PM
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My experience is that men don’t share their emotions because there is zero incentive to. Very few people care when a man is in distress or needs help. Being a vulnerable male can leave you a target. If you do, an older male or older woman is a way better choice than your peers. The matriarchs and patriarchs that can have perspective may understand. If not, a guy that is a good friend. I have found most female peers to be useless to talk to. They just don’t at all understand how lonely men can be…
/r/MensRights18/12/20 03:38 PM
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So close to the truth then goes in to wacky land. Most men don’t get off on the idea of ‘oppressing’ their wives and kids. What do they even get out of it? In class or racial oppression there is access to financial resources. A man oppresses his family so he can hand his check over to take care of them ...🤔
/r/FeminismStopsWhen17/12/20 09:14 AM
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Yeah I worded it wrong. I would say the primary importance of a man is as a to society and to family is as a provider and protector. Women get to take on two roles. Obviously men have very many more vital roles to the family. Women often get to choose between their providing and taking care of the family. Men earn more because they have only one choice.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/12/20 01:58 AM
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I am talking in terms of resources. Fathers are vital parts of the family but when it comes to money, fathers generally have no other option than to earn, women get to choose between earning and focusing on the family.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/12/20 01:29 AM
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Men earn more because they have to. They have no other usefulness to a family other than being a wage earner. A woman has the option of working or scaling back her career if she chooses to once married.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/12/20 04:01 PM
2

This bitch don't know about Pangaea.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/12/20 03:58 PM
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She's talking like she has a PS5 between her legs. lol
/r/PussyPassDenied01/12/20 03:04 PM
1

That’s ruff 🐶
/r/PussyPassDenied30/11/20 01:02 PM
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Telling her parents is the right thing to do. Male or female. When a partner does something so awful as cheating, let their parents know what a piece of crap their child turned out to be.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/11/20 05:14 PM
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This was a skit for YouTube. It does happen but this is not a real video.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/11/20 07:48 PM
2

Did she provide any proof it is paid?
/r/PussyPass15/11/20 06:52 AM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/jo9br6/yes_we_do_soyboy/ According to those morons, women shouldn't vote because they did not get the outcome they wanted. Weren't complaining last election.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 11:04 AM
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Pretty much nailed my perspective on this whole shambles. I hate both parties, I just hate the Conservatives way more. This election shows how broken the system is. That the democrats can’t cobble together a meaningful candidate in this time says a lot. Sabotaging Sanders and forcing two unlikeable candidates in a row on us says a lot about them. I just can’t get my head around the mental gymnastics it takes to support Trump though. The amount of “alternative facting” and duct tape needed to hol…
/r/FeminismStopsWhen01/11/20 03:52 AM
1

That would be awesome.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/10/20 12:54 PM
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Dude you sound like an uneducated, uninformed racist fucking idiot. Writing a reply to counter the piles of bullshit you wrote seems like a waste of time. I’m probably just too black and lazy right? Every ‘privilege’ you listed is trivial, dismissed with even the most basic amount of research, or met with a way more weighty counter point for black people. How about you show me what your hard working superior self can do and read up/learn a bit more? Or are you just as lazy as dumb old black me? …
/r/PussyPassDenied25/09/20 05:38 PM
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I think you have to view all of these in context. If you remove all historical context, these look like privileges... but they aren’t. At best they are ineffective mitigation’s first historical injustices. Some scholarships specifically for black people. When you consider these in the context of the socioeconomic disadvantages that have been ha fed down to many blacks, these aren’t much. Don't get accused of cultural appropriation. Oooooh. What a disadvantage. If you don’t want to be accused, ac…
/r/PussyPassDenied24/09/20 04:16 PM
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What are some black privileges?
/r/PussyPassDenied24/09/20 01:09 PM
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It is also important to keep in mind that women are likely under report actual incidents too. This is a good article on false rape claims and the conclusion is that it is very difficult to know numbers but idea that is rare might be very wrong. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2015-06-04/what-we-don-t-know-about-false-claims-of-rape It is awful for the men that are accused and the women that are victims. I despise the idea of a false accuser getting away with it just as much as the ide…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/20 12:14 AM
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I'd prefer something like toxic/unfair expectations of men by society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/20 12:07 AM
2

I would not spit at an officer without my will in order. People have been killed for less (see various videos).
/r/PussyPassDenied12/09/20 07:08 PM
8

My hands are gender fluid.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/09/20 07:03 PM
1

Hope that gets better.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/09/20 02:22 PM
2

Not PPD. You can delete posts yourself. It is one of the links when you view your own post.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/09/20 02:20 PM
1

People call her “Mayo Angelou”
/r/PussyPass10/09/20 05:51 PM
1

Pow. Shortest definition is have ever seen. If they wanted to help men, they would call it toxic society or toxic male oppression or something. The phrase insults and blames men for all of their troubles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 04:50 AM
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I knew how this discussion was going to end. Every time someone brings out that trash phrase that IS an attack on masculinity, then covers for it, you are talking to a bigot. Calling it something else would make things so much clearer but they won’t do that because they know what the phrase actually means. They get to stealth all sorts of garbage using it. Such bullshit that abuse of a man and people laughing at is, is actually related to the toxicity of masculinity.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/09/20 09:12 PM
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They are not your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:51 PM
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They should have restrictions on how many women can take women’s studies as part of solving the problem. As a guy your degree options are business/economics, medicine, engineering/compsci or law.
/r/MensRights28/08/20 08:59 PM
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That is a bit much man.
/r/PussyPass23/08/20 04:38 AM
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She has makeup caked in and probable lip fillers. Bet she does not look good really.
/r/PussyPass23/08/20 04:38 AM
1

I actually want to buy one. Lol
/r/PussyPassDenied21/08/20 04:59 PM
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What is your favorite team? Yes!
/r/PussyPassDenied09/08/20 07:47 AM
2

If you say you are marching for men most people would think you are crazy. Men as having unmet needs is alien idea up front. When you march for a cause that affects men, they will start to realize that they know of men who are affected by it and start to empathize.
/r/MensRights19/07/20 07:11 PM
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He did great things but never argue with another parent or demean them in front of the children. They are just not old enough to process that information and will internalize it. His wife is more than an asshole but he should not have done that.
/r/MensRights19/07/20 09:21 AM
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They really need to get their PR right and provide a clear message. I wouldn’t even brand it a men’s march, just a march against cause X. That could be divorce laws, domestic violence, custody, ... etc Pick a cause and march on that.
/r/MensRights19/07/20 09:17 AM
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First point is that while there is a criminal element, you have to consider that black crime is partly ‘manufactured’ as in police will arrest and charge a black male far more likely than a white one. Don’t believe me, check out the interview with James Wood on Joe Rogan. People are arrested and have the book thrown at them for minor things. Why? Prisons have quotas to fill. Crime is also a function of economic disadvantage which is a whole other story with sinister roots. Second, the question s…
/r/MensRights14/07/20 03:35 PM
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Funny but not PPD.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/20 02:18 AM
1

You would never suspect her.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/06/20 12:27 AM
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Lock her pedo ass up! She’s hot tho.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/06/20 02:13 PM
2

Thank you!
/r/MGTOW223/06/20 04:18 PM
1

Thank you!
/r/MGTOW223/06/20 04:17 PM
1

Thank you!
/r/MGTOW223/06/20 04:17 PM
1

Thank you!
/r/MGTOW223/06/20 04:17 PM
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Can we at least have a fathers hour? Just one where guys can finally be recognized? Nope. Lol. Even that is too much.
/r/MensRights22/06/20 09:13 AM
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Yes! We would love to know.
/r/MGTOW218/06/20 11:23 PM
2

The look on her face? Priceless.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/06/20 08:05 AM
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Sure there are enough web devs online that could volunteer to fix it.
/r/MensRights13/06/20 06:04 PM
2

Likely not hot though.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/20 04:55 AM
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This guy is determined.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/06/20 04:54 AM
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Perpetrator: “I lied and also.... I’m racist too!” Not gonna work. Even the KKK wouldn’t admit to that.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/06/20 03:42 PM
1

You mean that peaceful war?
/r/MensRights11/06/20 09:27 AM
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If you're going to have a revolution or start a movement, you do it properly and in an organised way 🤣 When has this ever happened or worked? Revolutions are violent and messy.
/r/MensRights06/06/20 10:56 AM
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What do those stats say about people that are already restrained, who are innocent, who have committed a minor crime (ie: selling loose cigarettes) or are complying peacefully?
/r/MensRights06/06/20 10:52 AM
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A man died... donate to women!
/r/MensRights04/06/20 04:28 PM
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With all of this movement is accomplishing (whether you agree with the methods), you can bet the intersectional feminists will be there to burrow in and try to co-opt it to make it self serving. For better or worse, the outrage, protests and riots have caused companies to acknowledge and take action. Whatever their motives, when enough people are pissed off, even large companies will be moved. It can bet feminists would LOVE some of that action. If it for a valid women’s issue, I am all for it b…
/r/MensRights04/06/20 04:27 PM
1

The men should sue for her claiming they had sex. That is slander!
/r/PussyPassDenied02/06/20 03:14 AM
1

It is an exaggeration but when people attention seek then complain they get attention (ie: someone looking) then that is what it is talking about. Obviously none of this gives you the right to touch or harass someone.
/r/AntiFeminists31/05/20 08:17 AM
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Fuck Nestle. One of the most evil companies in the world.
/r/MensRights28/05/20 11:11 PM
4

I think most men and women are good people. Flawed but mostly good.
/r/MensRights28/05/20 11:10 PM
4

She shat on the guys bed!
/r/MensRights28/05/20 11:08 PM
1

Roxanne Pallet who accused a man of beating her but got caught recently was interviewed and was described as "inspiring" for having gone to therapy and being back on TV.
/r/MensRights28/05/20 11:07 PM
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A whole blender😂I’d give a promotion for showing people what happens when you screw with us. Customer violence solved 🤣
/r/PussyPassDenied28/05/20 10:18 AM
1

If I were the boss I'd want to give the employee of the month but I'd have to fire them.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/05/20 07:20 AM
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I don’t mean it was justified but the worker would be fired for it. For such a crappy job and having to put up with abuse I would feel quite gratified even though I went too far. The reaction was disproportionate and even though it is unfair, they could sue. Especially because it was not self defense. It is pretty funny to watch though. That aim and her falling over.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/05/20 05:10 AM
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Fired but worth it.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/05/20 03:30 AM
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Well the stats tell you about the group not an individual sample. At best, they tell you what is likely for a single instance not what is happening. But fine if you want have your point if it makes you happy “black people are criminals, that are actually treated better than anyone else, racially targeted police brutality does not exist” (although even if it were proven you’d just say blacks are very likely criminals so it is justified). Anyway cool, her mentioning it was an “African American Man…
/r/PussyPassDenied28/05/20 12:49 AM
2

Paul Elam’s one?
/r/PussyPassDenied27/05/20 05:23 PM
1

That face is also a crime.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/05/20 05:22 PM
1

Inverse, inverse Egyptian famous building shaped scheme.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/05/20 05:21 PM
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Till you look at her face.🤮🤢
/r/PussyPassDenied27/05/20 05:19 PM
1

Aaaaaaaaaaaam just checking in on ya. Is it racist racist racist racist? 😂
/r/PussyPassDenied27/05/20 05:18 PM
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It was both. She used the fact that it was a man and the fact that he was black. If it were a black woman she was reporting, she would have not been able to play victim as much. She could have reported a white man for violence too but less effectively. I WISH I could find this clip of some crazy woman accusing the random chilled white guy at work of stalking her. She walks up to his postal van and is like “why are you sexually harassing me and stalking me”. He looked so hilariously confused when…
/r/PussyPassDenied27/05/20 05:15 PM
1

I way she is on customer facing duty. Fryer and janitorial for you m’lady.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/05/20 05:11 PM
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Na. As much as she is an awful person, internet bullying is not okay. Let the law, social pressure towards her company etc handle her. She is awful but it can lead to suicide. Already had one a few days ago. She deserves jail not death. Far more effective and just.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/05/20 05:09 PM
1

You can’t be serious.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/05/20 05:07 PM
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Innocent man was reported as an aggressor when he was not and she tried to use the police to attack him. Stats simply don’t matter in this case. They are not relevant to this situation. If it were a white guy, he would be in trouble. For an innocent black man, he will be treated with suspicion and more force if your stats or true or not.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/05/20 05:03 PM
2

The silicone in their systems will deny that pass.
/r/PussyPass24/05/20 06:17 PM
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She even fell the wrong way lol.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/05/20 06:19 PM
1

He didn’t ask for consent for her to be in her dreams? Lock him up!
/r/PussyPass18/05/20 09:41 PM
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One story I heard, the kid extorted her then reported her. She got imprisoned and he sued the school district and got millions. I think she got pregnant. Dude wins at life for getting that money.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/05/20 05:40 PM
2

Thanks. WODELMD Equality NOW!
/r/AntiFeminists15/05/20 04:38 PM
2

Mark Perry Do you have any links to Mark Perry? I can find bits and pieces but no central channel or website.
/r/AntiFeminists15/05/20 04:15 PM
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Can I have the source of the info about STEM. I had ZERO idea about it. STEM is more "safe clean careers where men are succeeding and making lots of money". What is funny is there is no talk of more equality in WODELMD... Waste Disposal. Oil Rigging, Defence, Emergency Response, Laboring, Mining, the Draft. hmmmmm.... I wonder why🤔
/r/AntiFeminists15/05/20 03:13 PM
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Those are actually hate subs and should be banned.
/r/AntiFeminists15/05/20 02:59 PM
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Although a woman's beauty will fade, a guys attraction and love of her may stay the same or even grow stronger... if she actually brings more to the table then a stress, demands, drama, conflict and occasional unimpressive sex. These women that consider themselves the prize do so because they are used to being pursued by men and dangle sex as the finish line. While a guy is infatuated he will do anything to impress her but after getting used to the sex and realizing there is not much else there …
/r/AntiFeminists15/05/20 12:16 PM
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It is this profound mix of entitlement and narcissism mixed with seeing themselves as the victim but being blind to when they are privileged. They have always been wronged, are always entitled to more, are always oppressed and even when you provide evidence to the counter, they dismiss it. They will twist any and every statistic to make themselves the bottom of society. Just watched one video where the guy said that STEM was actually 49% Female. The reason it is being reported as much less is th…
/r/AntiFeminists15/05/20 12:06 PM
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They need to sue the shit out of the University.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/05/20 06:09 AM
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https://youtu.be/VgmMNba99X8?t=230
/r/PussyPassDenied11/05/20 10:34 PM
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Would have been great to see her cuffed for such an outburst. Utterly disgraceful.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/05/20 10:33 PM
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Would you consider making a post about how the system screws men? I mean we all know it happens, but how is it done?
/r/PussyPassDenied11/05/20 10:31 PM
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https://youtu.be/VgmMNba99X8?t=230 The timestamp you want. What is ironic is that women complain that fathers don't want to be in their father's lives but when men try, they do everything they can to exclude them. This is a deadbeat mother. She should also have been arrested for her behavior in court and gone to jail. Her behavior is disgraceful. I have a friend who's exwife tried to attack his mother in court. She was still awarded custody. She still got a pussy pass. The man is arrested she wa…
/r/PussyPassDenied11/05/20 10:30 PM
1

There needs to be a mgtowdating sub.
/r/MGTOW210/05/20 07:55 AM
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Exactly. There will be creep and there is no easy effective way to moderated which posts are okay and are not. This sub should not care about women but life improvement MGTOW dating should be another sub.
/r/MGTOW210/05/20 07:54 AM
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It really depends. I would love a sub about only self improvement. Nothing to do with women or dating. How to make money, invest, save, optimize your life, stay in shape, quit your job, take care of your health. MGTOW are really obsessed with women. The focus is on avoiding women or not being burned... but it is still women. Another sub just for MGTOW dating would be better.
/r/MGTOW210/05/20 07:52 AM
1

“Something something patriarchy, toxic masculinity” the check your privilege. A++ with an instant PhD.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/05/20 07:01 AM
1

Don’t go against the grain in academia unless you are working as a researcher.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/05/20 06:53 AM
1

Bud, the entire thing is explained by Trump thinking it was consensual conduct. Someone thinking something is consensual while not actually checking for consent does not make it completely fine. If I think it is okay for me to enter your house and chill out on the couch, eat your food but don't actually okay to do it without checking it is okay with you. But hey, the door was open! You just let me enter! 'Grabbing' implies he just touched them. It was not touching something when you know it is o…
/r/MensRights07/05/20 07:29 AM
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Oooookay dickhead: His comment was about "grabbing 'em by the pussy" no talk of whether they consented or not. He did not even check if they were okay with it, he just did it. He claimed they just let him but he did not have any idea if it was okay. The topic was not about rape in his case. It was about him grabbing pussy because he was a celebrity. If someone did not want their pussy grabbed he was powerful enough to get away with it. You're an idiot.
/r/MensRights07/05/20 07:02 AM
0

That is my point. The things he said were not in the abstract; he was talking about an absolute incident. He was not talking about rape but serious sexual assault.
/r/MensRights07/05/20 06:17 AM
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Slapped her so hard she was reincarnated as a woman with sense.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/05/20 08:40 PM
1

People dismissed it as locker room talk but I have never heard of anyone saying they actually did something in a locker room. In the worst of locker room crass talk: Rape joke = possibly funny Saying you raped someone = likely getting reported to the police. Might land yourself a beating too. Locker room talk is always in the abstract.
/r/MensRights06/05/20 09:12 AM
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He constructed a set of rules that condemn a college student based on just an accusation. The student cannot effectively defend himself as he is denied due process. Biden made these rules and he should be judge by them. No legal representation, no chance to cross examine the accuser, no informing of the actual accusations ... a student has zero chance of defending themselves.
/r/MensRights06/05/20 09:08 AM
2

The GOP doesn’t care either.
/r/MensRights06/05/20 09:04 AM
1

I would love to see Biden fed into the meat grinder he built. Not really on the right or left but his hypocrisy deserves to be rewarded.
/r/MensRights06/05/20 09:02 AM
3

I am both liberal and conservative depending on the topic. Taking a side is silly to me. Judge individual policies and issues. The manosphere is pretty right wing.
/r/MensRights06/05/20 09:01 AM
19

Everything is someone else’s fault.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/05/20 04:01 PM
1

https://youtu.be/fnPGxbUgfik Very similar interview content.
/r/MensRights03/05/20 11:10 AM
1

Sorry. My mistake. It was the audio of a similar interview he did.
/r/MensRights03/05/20 09:28 AM
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People are pissed because of the loaded language she used. It sounded like he almost tried to rape her or assault her. Add race into it and this type of language would have had him swinging from a tree early last century, when he did nothing wrong. Her even remembering it after 16 years is amazing but now bringing it up like some traumatic event. Ridiculous.
/r/MensRights02/05/20 09:41 PM
1

There is literal audio of the interview and all he does is correct something she says. No raised voices, no angry tone nothing. He just sounds intelligent and like he out thought her question. People are pissed because of the loaded language she used. It sounded like he almost tried to rape her or assault her. Add race into it and this type of language would have had him swinging from a tree early last century, when he did nothing wrong. Her even remembering it after 16 years is amazing but now …
/r/MensRights02/05/20 09:40 PM
1

They can pull that card up for anything. A guy they don't like is around... uncomfortable. She did something wrong and is now accountable for it... she feels uncomfortable. She has to defend something she said...
/r/MensRights02/05/20 09:37 PM
2

You can’t just make that claim. It really depends on who is filing for divorce and why. I would suspect that a lot of the time it still would be the woman but let’s not jump to conclusions. Also being stuck with someone 24/7 is going to put a strain on any relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 02:00 AM
1

Yep. When you try to tell people about this during their rant about black people, they don’t believe you or dismiss you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:36 AM
1

He gave her a lesson in civil rights and lefts.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/04/20 06:22 PM
2

Worst thing they can do is be indifferent. To mock something, you must acknowledge it exists.
/r/MensRights29/04/20 11:16 AM
1

Me, I just don’t expect people to care or feel like they owe me anything. Nothing to do with pride. I will do the opposite and help people in need but for me, just don’t feel like I deserve it so don’t ask.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/04/20 12:24 AM
1

One of the best posts I have seen anywhere in a long time.
/r/MGTOW217/04/20 07:49 AM
2

Probably won’t press charges.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/04/20 12:35 AM
3

When they said “got what she deserved” I was expecting him to have grabbed a gun and shot her. No excuse for what she did.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/04/20 12:33 AM
1

That’s my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:16 AM
2

Yep. It is not some moral conviction that violence is wrong, the are just less capable of violence. But they do use other means quite happily to hurt, bully, defame, slander, intimidate and wound their partners. It is just difficult to report and prove. The Amber Heard case, or that woman that hit herself in the elevator and then called the police are examples. Both of these are cases where the man would have been classed as the abuser. It is only because there was incontrovertible visual and au…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 06:22 PM
1

I don't mind. Honestly, when I really care about someone, I care about and support their answer whatever. I respect their choice over what I want. I can be friends with a woman that has rejected me as if I were to date her, friendship would be the foundation of it. I would like her as a friend. If my feelings did get in the way, we could respectfully part but I would not hate her. Where things fall apart is where she does not let me heal in private. She has to tell all of her friends. So now I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 08:18 AM
2

Call the police. A nice night in a mental ward clears suicide right up. If she does jump, meh. Her fault. That is the thing with vindictive women. She will not just make it about your and her, she will try to recruit as many people as she can to hurt you. Johnny Depp was lucky to have audio. There are lots of Amber Heards out there but they guy has zero chance of being believed over a crying woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 08:10 AM
5

Women take rejection extremely poorly. They are just less able to physically harm men but if they could, many would. Their go to method is likely going to be some kind of slander or attempt at sabotaging your chances with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 08:07 AM
4

It just depends on the situation and woman. Some women like stringing men along, playing with their feelings, giving non-verbal yeses, doing things that imply interest then when the guy takes the bate, saying 'no'. Other times women have to avoid school shooter type guys that they are afraid of. Some women take pleasure in getting validation from men without actually returning it. I was listening to a vlog of a woman who I think is a great woman. I would really be lucky if I could marry a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 08:06 AM
0

I saw a video where you have one of those 400 pound women. Like she can't walk, takes up a corner of the room and eats near all of the time. Washed down with a rag and a stick. Room probably smells of candle wax (you know the fat smell) They found a dead fetus inside of her when they examined her. Someone had thought she was sexy enough to have intercourse with. Make up, heels etc enhance a woman's visual characteristics but really, men want women's company, love and validation. Sex is a part of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:55 AM
0

Men could have female company (without sex) very easliy. No. No they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:46 AM
2

This just does not work. Both points are faulty. In this case, we are considering the point were a man or woman are between relationships and are looking for some 'fast food' sex. Women can easily get sex (from someone that is around their physical level of attractiveness) but is it from someone she likes? Is it emotionally fulfilling? There are lots of guys that will have sex with her with little effort on her part. If she is going through a 'dry spell' and needs her fix, she can usually get it…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:46 AM
1

As a true feminist, I would consider him not being awarded the money toxic masculinity. I approve this equality 🤓 Next up, the draft! 🤣
/r/PussyPassDenied10/04/20 09:04 AM
2

I do actually agree with you. I think the similar pressure for men is to be successful with women. Men are shamed for the opposite and the moment a woman wants to hurt you, she will go for the jugular attacking your masculinity. A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin while very funny, is a good example of this. But yes, a woman that sleeps around indiscriminately is seen as 'losing value'. Apart from just the cultural bias, there is something different about promiscuous women in a bad way. I can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:53 PM
1

Dude... She has a boyfriend https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/fut0xe/woman_blames_the_fact_that_she_doesnt_do_anything/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:56 PM
1

Women do the most of the slut-shaming. A guy may not want to seriously date a woman who hooks up regularly and it is his choice. I can't explain it but something about her just changes in a negative way and she gives of this vibe that makes her seem like someone that is just not suitable to marry. It just feels like you are more likely to be cheated on and dumped. The bitterness she has to the guys from her past will be poured out on you. Sometimes she has had her fun and now wants a boring stab…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:46 PM
2

The mistake is thinking thirsty one-track men are “opportunities” Of those thirsty opportunities there are a few decent men to pick from. I do agree about the deception of thinking that there is an abundance of men. Women are deceived in to thinking that dating is really easy. Just show up somewhere, put up a profile and the men just appear. As they get older, these opportunities decrease. They are still there but the good men have either gotten married or given up on dating and just want to hoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:37 PM
0

Yeah. I imagine once the virus succeeds, hookups are going to go crazy in numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:19 AM
2

Yep, what I am saying is that it is harder for men because the opportunities don't present themselves, you have to work a lot harder to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:18 AM
3

Most men would kill for an inbox with 1 in 10 okay messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:00 AM
2

Yep. Approaching is way better than online dating for men. OLD requires you to be way more attractive even with women that are nothing special, whereas if you can approach and not make an idiot of yourself, make her laugh or just pay her a sincere complement, you can do a lot better. Another place I have lived before, there are simply not many attractive women and you are going to get shot down approaching one. It varies from place to place. I was talking to a guy and he remarked that where he l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:30 AM
1

The sad reality for women is that this game of musical chairs does come to an end and unless you choose a great guy in time, you will be left out. Then you hear the "Where are all the good men?" which usually means "Where are all the men that had way more to offer me than I had to offer them?".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:13 AM
2

Another thing I would say is that getting advice from women is awful. Just awful. They know the truth but will usually say what sounds right instead of what is really true. "You are such a sweet caring guy" often means "you are a pussy and boring". Women won't say be assertive, look in her eyes in a way that would show you'd fuck the shit out of her, don't be afraid to touch her etc. When you hear women talk with their friends, the truth comes out. Especially in this social climate, men are back…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:08 AM
2

It really depends on where you are in the world and what kind of social structures are in places. I have grown up and seen quite the opposite. A lot of high quality men and women who are just single. Women who I would have described as 'hot' in their prime and are still attractive who are single in to their 50s now with a kid. A lot of really good guys, both physically and personality who are single too. I have no problem believing that what you say is true for your location but the whole world …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:04 AM
2

You've pretty much shown that the bar is too high for most men and even guys at the top, still have to compete. I would guess you are quite good looking but seriously, mid 30's is quite a bad deal for most men. For many/most women, their good looks are going to fade pretty quickly (Though a few women can remain stunning). Men are going to want a few years of dating before getting married. By that time, you are close to or in your 40s odds of birth defects go up and fertility goes down, miscarria…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:01 AM
2

"Coronavirus" - Chinese curse
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:45 AM
4

You will die alone doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:41 AM
3

You refuted the entire discussion in 4 words. It is a simple fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:40 AM
2

we have been shamed for sexuality our entire lives. But honestly, most of it comes from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:39 AM
6

But is every message like that? At least 1/10 has to be somewhat normal. The funny thing is women also bemoan the lack of interesting first messages. But when I was on Bumble I was ready to be blown away, the first message..."Hi"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:37 AM
1

I'm a decent looking guy but partly due to my location, I just gave up on it. Created a funny interesting profile, got a few decent pictures (although I will try a pro photographer) and ... next to nothing. I am a decent looking guy, about 7ish I would say (I get complements every once in a blue moon, especially for how I dress). When I have a good haircut and dress up, I am maybe close to an 8 (at least in the face). In good shape and all that. Not 6ft, but not particularly short. ( Larger than…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:35 AM
5

Simply men are judged on other things, status and career being one of them. An awful lot of energy and work goes in to trying to make more money, forcing themselves to do things that are exhausting just to achieve status that can give them choices in women. Add to that going through the exhausting cycle of approaching and rejection and and I think it evens out if not tips the scale in men's direction. It does depend on where you are though. Some very average men with a pulse and warm body can cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:10 AM
0

LOL. Women lie about their n-count all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:05 AM
2

Doesn't that go the other way round for men, it is just that they can't whip their dick out and have someone jump on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:00 AM
10

Can't a woman just go out to a bar and find a guy that is on her attractiveness level. She is obviously not gonna get a male model if she looks awful but she will likely get someone? Dating apps are not really needed for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:59 PM
1

Should have put her in the bin, upside down.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/04/20 07:52 PM
1

Absolutely savage take town. FINISH HER!!!!!!!
/r/PussyPassDenied30/03/20 11:50 AM
1

But personally I wouldn’t ever say yes to a man who proposed in a fast food chain restaurant Even if he was the guy you knew you wanted to spend the rest of your life with? He could be your perfect match in every way and if this was the best he could give you at that time, you would say 'no' because of where it was? Or instead of proposing yourself, you would wait for him to do everything and then reject him if it was not good enough? Love is just so materialistic now. The pressure to perform an…
/r/PussyPassDenied29/03/20 02:11 AM
1

Or just that is all they had. Nothing wrong with that. Titanic is all romantic until the fact that the guy is poor becomes real.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/03/20 02:04 AM
2

I hear it is finger licking good!
/r/PussyPassDenied29/03/20 02:03 AM
23

I hope it bankrupts her and leaves her in serious debt.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/03/20 06:49 PM
1

Honestly, I get concerned when you see young men going MGTOW. Like 18. Fall in love, get your heart broken. See if it works for you. Some people have great marriages. Just use what you learn here to know to be careful. Shock horror, there are actually great women out there. MGTOW is going your OWN way. Not going OUR way. There should be MGTOW concepts but how a person navigated them is their own choice.
/r/MGTOW214/03/20 08:28 AM
1

If it wasn't for Brie Larson and the current climate, I would take it as so 100% but ah, he was just a douchey boss. Can't read in to everything. If they want to continue down that road, let them and see how customers react. Guys are being overly sensitive.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 05:34 PM
0

Yeah. I don't mind the ad. I think people associate it with Brie Larson's douchey comments which taints peoples view of it. Not a bad ad at all. This is the kind of stuff that gets the MRM labelled as pathetic.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 05:31 PM
9

You can see the previous wife in a photo. She’s a porker. I have nothing bad to say about the current wife.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/03/20 01:13 PM
1

I’m no doctor but I think the spine ain’t meant to do that.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/03/20 12:49 PM
1

It was a while ago. Sorry.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/03/20 12:30 PM
3

She should go to jail but man, I can’t be mad at the boy.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/03/20 12:24 PM
6

Disgusting but man she’s hot. As Birdman would say, this is not a crime.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/03/20 12:20 PM
18

It is what I thought, feminists should be at every game. The rafters should be packed with women supporting the game. There are more women in the population too and the NBA puts money in to the WNBA. Sad for the athletes that don’t get recognized but I am not sure how things could be fairer.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/03/20 12:15 PM
7

After seeing a video of a guy sort of snap in half and crumple, women and most men want none of that NFL action. It was brutal.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/03/20 12:13 PM
-1

Sit on him.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/03/20 12:11 PM
33

I am glad that so much hard evidence is coming out showing women can be just as evil as men, it is just that the methods are different. There was a recent post of a woman that convinced her daughters that their father sexually abused them and it was good to see that the thread could finally empathize with the male. Video and audio evidence is really starting to show that men can sometimes also be victims and that is really important. As for this land whale. She could just have sat on him.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/03/20 12:11 PM
1

Triggermortice.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/03/20 03:15 PM
7

Let me handle death sentences. I have a range of prices that would save a loooot of money: Covering in steak and do dumping in a cage full of Rottweilers. $70 Prison beat down. $10 Pushing in to hornets nest. $53 Shark infested waters. $72 Bear mauling. $120 Canyon tight rope for on windy day. $15 DIY electric chair. $53 Deep frying $97 Chain saw decap $120 Samurai sword decap $200 High speed lathe. FREE Angry snake pit. $5 Hydraulic press. $250 (cleanup is pricy) Catapult $21 (this one is fun) …
/r/PussyPassDenied08/03/20 02:40 PM
19

Amber Turd 💩
/r/PussyPass08/03/20 02:20 PM
22

There have to be some quality puns to make from this. Right “Hook” Back Hand to the Future Bea T Slapping Private Ryan Schindler’s Fist
/r/PussyPassDenied05/03/20 11:26 AM
3

KingRichez. His recent focus on stopping chasing women and getting power is really amazing. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChelK--WqGLW7Qnfc8W-2nw Goes in to some race things which you may or may not disagree with but the videos on not focusing on women are really good.
/r/MGTOW203/03/20 05:42 PM
3

Wow, that's dark.😨
/r/PussyPass28/02/20 06:31 PM
19

Wish he pushed her down the stairs and she broke her ankle. d0m£stiK Vi0l3ncE!!!
/r/PussyPass26/02/20 03:09 PM
1

Teach women not to rape. Seriously, can we go 2 weeks without some woman banging her students?
/r/PussyPassDenied18/02/20 06:42 PM
2

I hope Melody is a guy for the extra saltiness.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/02/20 05:57 AM
1

If you read the tweet replies, they are tearing the magazine a new one. So glad people can see through this garbage.
/r/MensRights11/02/20 10:24 PM
33

Bbbbbbbbbbbut patriarchy!
/r/MensRights08/02/20 04:31 PM
1

If Jason did so he would be gone and the movie would be cancelled. I would replace him with Kevin Hart 😂 just I annoy people.
/r/MensRights08/02/20 04:30 PM
36

As a corporation they should distance themselves from someone that brings negative publicity to their image. I think starting a boycott Aquaman 2 campaign might let them know that this will hurt their bottom line.
/r/MensRights08/02/20 04:27 PM
1

For laughs I listen to Birdman. Really funny. Most MGTOW content got boring for me. The same topics again and again, the wall, hypergamy, and all that. I just don’t want to spend my time obsessing over women. KingRichez is a REALLY good channel. But not quite MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW206/02/20 12:10 PM
3

Someones gonna kiss you!
/r/PussyPass01/02/20 02:09 AM
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