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And you don't think you have a biased perspective because you could only experience the perspective of a woman? I feel like there's men on here who also seem to believe women to be much crueler towards those they believe to be ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:37 AM
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Ah come on dude, if you're smart enough to be a socialist, you should be smart enough to see that a lot of the shallowness coming from men, women and ourselves are a result from this honestly quite shitty society. I've never read Marx, but I'm quite sure that the commodification of human relationships is something a lot of communists are concerned about. I don't share your exact experiences, women are a lot more intelligent, generous and wise within my bubble, I avoid people I don't like as the …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:28 AM
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Communicate. If you're going to put feminist in your flair, live up to it and don't let the validation of men scare enough to silence you. If you're worried, talk to them. You're brave enough to confront someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:55 PM
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You can >Ask< Jesus. Don't be that insecure, ffs. Is everyone on this sub insecure? Is everyone in society insecure? Seriously, you can just ask instead of assuming the worst. Who tf views a boner as some kind of magical tool that shows you how much someone likes you? Are we in pornoland or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:53 PM
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Dude, that's insane. I've mostly had women insist on buying stuff for me because they like giving gifts to people. I keep being surprised at the weird-ass women y'all seem to be meeting on this subreddit. Either I'm insanely lucky or you somehow found yourselves in the midst of some of the most bitter, lazy and entitled people on this planet and based your entire worldview based on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:51 PM
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Segregation, yaay! Instead of holding creepy men accountable, we'll just stuff women away in a seperate cart. Let's seperate families and friends from eachother based on gender, whoo!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:50 AM
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True, but let's not pretend that this media doesn't have a decent effect on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:19 PM
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Maybe women aren't fairy tale creatures, but maybe they're not the horrible creatures redpillers try to paint them as either? I feel like there's room between these two extremes. Humans are nuanced. I don't even like centrism, but come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:37 PM
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Hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:37 AM
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That's not the true. The average in someone's lifetime is around 7 to 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:36 AM
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That's an idiotic statement. Why would people want to live like some retard who has women on his arms like they're his pretty juwels to show off so he can feel better about themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:36 AM
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Or perhaps there just weren't that many men they were actually interested in taking it that far with? I'm not sure why y'all always have to assume the worst of people. Doesn't that make your life miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:34 AM
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It is, especially considering the average for someone's lifetime is somewhere between 7 and 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:33 AM
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Yes, exactly. It also doesn't account for alcohol spiking, because how could it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:08 AM
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Are you denying that alcohol can be used to spike someone's drink? YOU ADD some alcohol, or mix it with a stronger drink, it's that simple. That's actually retarded. I can't with this subreddit. I absolutely hate the absolutely bitter and horrible people that gather themselves here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:03 AM
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Don't victimize yourself. This study is flawed and people are allowed to point that out. That's a part of science too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:59 PM
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"Trust the science" is an idiotic statement, but even that statement is about science as a whole, not a single study that's used to argue for something that it can't be used to argue for. Can you tell me how these studies are supposed to account for alcohol spiking? Edit: You blocked me like a coward (oh no, mean internet words), but can your peabrain understand the idea that science isn't supposed to be taken at face value and never be looked at critically again? The whole point of science is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:56 PM
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You're an idiot if you think this study is a good way of arguinig for that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:52 PM
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And this study doesn't account for alcohol spiking either. And this study doesn't show if the women watched their drinks or not. This is the worst studies in history when it comes to proving OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:51 PM
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A more important thing: this study is unable to detect alcohol spiking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:50 PM
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No. I mean that drinks are actively >spiked< with extra alcohol. Are you being obtuse on purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:44 PM
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And what about alcohol spiking, does your study account for that too?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:43 PM
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Also: OP is completely ignoring that alcohol is the most commonly used substance to spike drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:43 PM
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EDIT: something that's incredibily important: MOST DRINKS ARE SPIKED WITH ALCOHOL! How is this study supposed to measure that? https://adf.org.au/insights/what-is-drink-spiking/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:41 PM
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Isn't alcohol one of the things that's most commonly used to spike drinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:40 PM
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Huh? I don't get what you're saying? Because it puts these people in a lot higher risk of danger, obviously. I'm genuienly confused, obviously the bartender can't be some kind of magical watchdog, but why wouldn't people getting far more drunk than they expected be a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:33 PM
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Wouldn't the simple explaination be that women date older men? That doesn't sound like a genetic or something related to general appearance, that sounds like something related to age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:29 PM
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No? That's not how this works. Sometimes people work based on stereotypes that are inaccurate. It's best to just watch your drink regardless of gender. If it's really not that much of a deal, why not take that small extra step? The discrimination doesn't really bother me that much, although I do think it's silly, the part that bothers me the most is that seeing women as totally harmless actually puts people in danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:25 PM
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If you want to prove that, give us a better study or argue your point without using ones that are unfit for the job. It would probably serve OP's argument better than trying to hide behind an "intellectual" wall of studies that are fundamentally unable to prove his arguments. And is it really that much of a bad idea to not take any chances when it comes to something like rape? We can do the whole man vs bear thing again (please don't), but bears in the city are far more rare than rapists in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:17 PM
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That seems like a huge oversimplification. Why assume it's all based on genetics? If you think it's based on physical attraction, why not argue that the American population becoming incredibily fat has something to do with it? I believe there have been studies shown that men that are of average weight are considered most attractive, almost 50% of men and women are predicted to be obese by 2030. Despite the study having plenty of flaws, I'm able to believe that Americans don't really fit their ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:09 PM
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Science is never that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:05 PM
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And sometimes someone just doesn't fit the things society likes, which wouldn't mean there's anything wrong with them either. Not drinking already makes you wildly unpopular in some circles. Perhaps they could be more popular if they started drinking, but does the fact that they don't drink mean there's something wrong with them? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:53 PM
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That's not OP's point. That's the point you want to defend. OP's evidence is sloppy at best. And they seem unable to treat science with the respect and nuance that it deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:50 PM
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You don't think men can't pick up on added suspicion towards them? Honestly it sounds stupid to me, aren't there plenty of rapists known to get women involved to help them find victims? Your drink can be spiked by another woman too. Why not just watch your drink regardless?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:48 PM
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Ah, fair enough. Yes that is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:46 PM
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That's not the attitude of a scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:45 PM
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You seriously think women can't spike your drink? That's so incredibily reckless and stupid, I can't fucking believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:42 PM
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It's also idiotic. Other women can spike your drink too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:42 PM
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Easy opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:42 PM
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That's not even what the research shows, the research shows there's only a small chance to get struck by lightning (getting drugged) overall. But most people are already somewhat careful with their drinks/most people don't stand next to trees when a lightning storm starts. So OP, being the dumbass that he is says: "Hey, the chance of being struck by lightning are pretty small, since it's so small why not stand next to the tree?" Edit: I really want to spread this message as much as I can, but: m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:39 PM
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Besides this doesn't prove that covering your drink is a bad idea. That's not what this research shows. Remember, many people were probably already watching their drinks. We don't know if the situation would be far worse, if they hadn't watched their drinks. This is faulty logic. If you wanted to prove your hypothesis you'd need a different study design. And OP would rather risk putting women in danger than actually thinking over his arguments for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:34 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:30 PM
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Can you actually counter the argument though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:29 PM
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That's a stupid idea. Your friends can end up failing to watch your drink and sometimes you trust them more than warrented.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:28 PM
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Idk why y'all are so sour in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:14 PM
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Sometimes people change and realize how empty and unhappy that made them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:05 AM
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Or you could reword it as: "Be a good partner and actually behave like a partner that loves and cares about me or I'll have a hard time being vulnerable with you." Not everyone is a horrible manipulator, sometimes I wonder what's up with this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:33 AM
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Easy to deny yourself from any responsibility. Besides, assuming that you're American 80% of your population has a "dad bod" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:32 AM
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Look at the post. That seems to be how she meant it, she just worded it badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:30 AM
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That's not what she meant though. I don't see why you'd rethink an entire relationship over a verbal miscommunication that subtle. I don't think she wanted to say that said she wouldn't have casual sex with him, I think she meant to say that she >couldn't< have casual sex with him because she liked him too much and would have wanted more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:44 AM
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Sure, or you'd just be wasting eachother's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:42 AM
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You could also just see it as: "I don't just like you, I love you." From that post it seems she believed that she was complimenting him by saying their chemistry (sexual or otherwise) was so good that she wouldn't have been able to contain her feelings for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:35 AM
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I don't think people here are talking about this relationship, just that they would find the very idea of casual sex offputting in the first place. That being said, some people >do< lie for a long while until the guilt starts eating them up. That's not what happened here though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:33 AM
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I don't think they're talking about this specific relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:32 AM
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I think this guy saw it as: "I don't think our sexual chemistry is enough, unlike other guys, but don't worry I still like being with you for other reasons."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:31 AM
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I'm not the same guy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:30 AM
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Obviously there are flaws in self reporting. What methodology would you'd rather see being used?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:23 AM
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This is what google pops out: Ages 30-34: Among women, 22% had 0-1 partner, 31% had had 2-4 partners, 25% had had 5-9 partners, and 22% had had 10+ partners. Among men, 17% had had 0-1 partners, 21% had had 2-4 partners, 20% had had 5-9 partners, and 42% had had 10+ partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:40 AM
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Yup, you're right. Gaslighting indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:38 AM
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How come? I don't believe it's neccesarily true, but I don't see what the contradiction is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:38 AM
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I don't remember any cashier to be honest. Regardlesss of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:32 AM
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What's the contradiction? There's plenty of men who'd like sex, but wouldn't want to buy it. Sometimes we want something, but we want them in a specific way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:00 AM
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??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:12 PM
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You seem more bothered by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:44 PM
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I've not yet heard of anyone who says they're seeking out poor women specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:36 PM
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It's spinning the truth right? Or trying to barge in a memory they've never had by confusing them. "I never said that. Your memory really sucks, doesn't it?" "That never happened."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:33 PM
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In a lot of cases people just assume that a misogynist can't fuck. Ignoring the fact that many of these statements come from men who've plenty of sex, that seems like an incredible oversight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:32 PM
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I think you don't know what gaslighting means. Besides, theyér saying that they (being a woman) have to deal with this insult too and that it's not gender specific. That seems like a valid argument to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:27 PM
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No?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:20 PM
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You don't think these words are overused?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:18 PM
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Depends on the context, right? I've called people weird in an apperciative way and people've always looked at me as if I just insulted them. Maybe it's a cultural difference. In my country (or at least the people I interact with) it's most often seen as an insult. Though some of my relatives and friends use the word in a lot more light hearted way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:16 PM
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Oh sure, incel is used as a cheap insult. At the same time: I wouldn't be suprised that this sub has a relatively high amount of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:14 PM
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Preach preach preach
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:12 PM
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Most often people are called "werid" as a way to imply that ther's something wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:11 PM
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You're so bad at appoaching topics with any ounce of nuance. Is this supposed to be the "logical" mind of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:10 PM
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I never implied that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:42 PM
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Dude, you're so desperate to turn this into a race thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:32 PM
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When there's lots of prostitutes in a poor country, there's a decent chance it's because they're poor. (Idk why we switched to talking about prostitution, but sure, why not?) I don't see what racist about saying that people will do whatever they can to survive. And that people in poor countries are generally more desperate than those in the richest countries on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:30 PM
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There's always going to be some toxic people out there, no? There's lots of jealous men under comments of women that wear too little clothing or are with a bunch of foreigners. I only see a reason to criticize "passport bro's" if they're actively searching out desperate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:28 PM
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Very cool. You're a very strong social justice warrior. Very commendable. Could you explain how it's racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:22 PM
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Then you're not the "passport bro" they're talking about. Pretty obvious, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:22 PM
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Dude, act like a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:21 PM
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Why not flirt in a sexual way too? Do you truly believe it to be disrespectful? Or are you afraid of taking that risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:19 AM
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This could answer like 90% of the people here saying that "that group" holds contradictory opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:52 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:32 PM
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Destiny? Ewwww
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:32 PM
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"Sex worker exclusionary radical feminism." doesn't exist. They don't exclude sex workers, as far as I know sex workers are quite important to many radfems. I also don't really see them rant about sex workers, moreso about the concept of prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:42 PM
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Is there any form of organ trading that should be allowed to exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:40 PM
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"SWERFS" don't exist. These women don't hate prostitutes, they dislike prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:39 PM
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And something being illegal doesn't make it immoral. You'll have to come with a better reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:37 PM
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It's a decent take. Remember how careful we are about consent? How could anyone give "full consent" to something that involves money?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:37 PM
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People who call others "SWERFS" have got to be the biggest tools on the planet. "Look guys, there's an insult for transphobic women called "TERF"'s, let's just call the women who dislike sex work "SWERFS."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:35 PM
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I'm finding to be a lot lower, but still quite high. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/strictly-casual/201401/in-hookups-alcohol-is-college-students-best-friend
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:02 AM
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I'm still convinced this is a troll account.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:56 AM
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Sure, it rarer for men to be murdered by their spouse. I'm just saying that the research that has been done on lesbian couples do seem to indicate that especially when the physical strength differences are abolished, women can be quite violent too. I believe there's even some stats suggesting that gay men are the most chill when it comes to domestic violence, compared to hetero and lesbian couples. You're right though, at least in heterosexual relationships men do seem to murder their partners m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:10 AM
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That seems like such an easy way to view the world. Some of the worst body and slutshaming I've seen was by other women, because believe it or not: people can just be awful. And they're not "victims", they were bullies. Everyone is a "victim" of hateful rethoric, but that doesn't mean someone can't be genuinely nasty to be around. On the other hand, I think I've personally known more violent men. Like I don't care about making this a gender war or anything, but let's not pretend women all love e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:05 AM
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"Women are so mindblowingly peaceful" Yet they seem to commit to domestic abuse almost just as much as men do when there's no large difference in physical strength (like in same sex relationships). Yes, anger from women is treated very different by a lot of people. Yes, there's different expectations there, but women aren't >that< much more peaceful. It's not as simple as that being the reason. Another part of the reason for the difference in treatment is because of old stereotypes that don't re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:00 AM
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That's fair. It's honestly just a stupid song.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:59 AM
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Uuuugh, women are soo much trouble. I wish I could fuck my male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:56 AM
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Yes it is. It shows how women aren't nearly as peaceful as you're saying they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:54 AM
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Oh come on, do you seriously believe that? Almost all women I know can vouch for the fact that there's plenty of misogynistic women out there. And even when that's not the reason, there's plenty of reason why someone might dislike someone else. I've seen plenty of women bully eachother growing up. Obviously men did it too, but let's not pretend women are these peaceful little angles that float and drink honey from flowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:53 AM
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Women are so mindblowingly peaceful that a lot of lesbians have been abused by their partner. https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:50 AM
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women don't hate other women Lol lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:48 AM
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That's culturally how we've seen women for decades now, right? Used to be different during the time of the ancient greeks. They absolutely loved how men looked. I've rarely heard of ancient greeks loving women's bodies in the same way, but maybe I'm not aware of the full picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:47 AM
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Women can't feel sexual urges? Where have you slept? In a cave? Anyways, sorry that happened to you. People can be quite horrible, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:40 AM
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Nothing feminist about fucking someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:25 AM
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I love how shallow this sub is, absolutely great. Waiter waiter, more bitter men and women please!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:24 AM
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If you want to be happy living a king's life Never make a pretty woman your wife If you want to be happy living a king's life Never make a pretty woman your wife Now all you have to do is just what I say And then you may be jolly, merry and gay Therefore, from a logical point of view Better marry a woman uglier than you From a logical point of view Always marry a woman uglier than you A pretty woman make a husband look small And very often causes his dawn fall Soon as she marries then and there …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:24 AM
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Give bears a chance, jack.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:19 AM
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Me when I want to wipe out all men but remember that chads exist:
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:19 AM
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Everyone on this sub has unsolved issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:16 AM
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We bring more to this world than just assualting people, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:12 AM
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Fair enough, yet when it comes to physical strength men have an advantage (on average at least). Your parents don't represent all parents. Then why are plenty of women still getting together with men? I've seen plenty of loving relationships. I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:11 AM
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Do you believe that women couldn't create those things in the world that you foresee?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:08 AM
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I don't see how that would misogyny to be honest. Seems like you're talking to some rather silly people, because that doesn't make any sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:07 AM
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I feel like this argument is mostly based on the idea that men are inherently a negative for society. I don't think that's very accurate though. When you look at lesbian relationships, there's more or almost as much abuse as with heterosexual relationships. It might somewhat equalize the playing field when it comes to physical strength, but I'm afraid that power dynamics would still easily arise in such a world. And in general, I think diversity is a good thing. Perhaps there are ways in which m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:02 AM
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Or maybe fix society in a far more fundamental way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:01 AM
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Where did I say that? Also, glad that we can judge women on her quality to clean for men. Really makes me happy to be amongst sane people again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:47 PM
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You just said that that's a woman's role! Pfffff, why is everyone in this sub sooo ungraceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:59 PM
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Thanks for cleaning the kitchens, really valuable. Thanks thanks, I'm glad we're clear that that's >your< role, so I can do things that actually give me power in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:53 PM
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I want rich men to buy the bodies of women. I want more meaningless commercalization of relationships!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:27 PM
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I think so honestly. I've seen more rich people hang with strippers and cocaine than seeing them stay with one woman. Most celebs have parters with a sexual history, right? Many of them genuinely don't seem that bothered by it. Because there's more to a person than their "purity", don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:40 AM
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Alright!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:39 AM
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That's true. Still kind of funny. I'd say it's more like being tall and then complaining about men being too tall or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:38 AM
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Is it actually that bad? Have an article or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:37 AM
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Marry an okay girl Live In this okay world It’s just way easier not to try Baby I’m dancing in the dark so I don’t see your face If love was a race you would be in middle place When I saw you in that dress, looking mediocre at best I deserve this, not better or worse than this I have to say this You look okayish tonight
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:35 AM
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Wait, so why are pretty women "intimidating"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:33 AM
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💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:33 AM
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She literally had fan meet and greets that made her 30k. If she was really that bothered by these weirdo's she'd stay the hell away from them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:32 AM
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Or maybe these men just don't care? Why try to generalize men all into this small box? Different men like different women, isn't that already more than obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:30 AM
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Not the kind of person that's interesting to me. Not because of "purity", I just don't see the appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:29 AM
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I'm saying >not everyone<, so people men would, others wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:28 AM
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Ye
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:27 AM
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ME me me me me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:27 AM
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You'd still fuck them on the short term. You don't sound that "pure" and classy yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:26 AM
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You have a preference for sexually experienced women, why are you really suprised that other people prefer more sexually conservative people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:25 AM
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Not tainted, just not someone everyone here sees as someone they want to build a relationship with. But sex? No simp on this sub would pass up the chance for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:24 AM
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Depends on the person. Everyone here tries to generalize men and women towards 1 point and that just doesn't work. Some are more sexually conservative than others, sometimes depending on context and you can't just generalize men or women into wanting 1 thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:21 AM
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I honestly don't see why people are simping over her that much. This sub continues to suprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:20 AM
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Yeah beautiful women are very intimidating. Let me summarize it. "If you want to be happy living a king's life Never make a pretty woman your wife If you want to be happy living a king's life Never make a pretty woman your wife Now all you have to do is just what I say And then you may be jolly, merry and gay Therefore, from a logical point of view Better marry a woman uglier than you From a logical point of view Always marry a woman uglier than you A pretty woman make a husband look small And v…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:05 AM
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The vulva vanguard shall rule over the weakwilled mushroom people, heheheheh!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:39 PM
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Perhaps, it's what I've associated with the movement though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:38 PM
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That being said: I still think this is funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdQ_HhyGRk
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:30 PM
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Controlling people with their consent is still control. And don't forget you're normalizing corporations surveilling people when you normalize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:24 PM
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Life isn't fair, is it? There's bound to be people who feel the same as you. And it's not horrible to sometimes do these things yourselves, but it's still be something you might want to work on, just a bit in case society actually improves a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:22 PM
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I feel like even people from the CIA veterans would feel a little weird for secretly recording their own dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:19 PM
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What makes you think they're a radfem?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:18 PM
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Eye tracking camera's? This is like "thought police" levels of control. Even most dystopias that have been written don't have those.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:16 PM
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Even Joseph Stalin himself would call you too controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:15 PM
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True, there's a lot of hypocricy there, but using that as an excuse to be shitty yourself is just a cheap excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:12 PM
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How do you learn things from conversations if you're just going to shy away from anything that's uncomfortable to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:11 PM
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Then step away from the "good guy" things and step into a world of actually improving yourself without taking the shit from your partner or society. You can do so without buying into cheap ideas on controlling women, a fetishization of "traditionalism", hypermasculinity, sleeping around and on your "value" compared to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:09 PM
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They don't all believe they're "high value" that's why they watch Andrew Tate-ish figures and use charts to lookmaxx. There has to be something to improve, something needs to feed the insecurity. And calling a spade a spade might be true, but calling a spade a spade for the sake of bullying the spade is still a shitty thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:06 PM
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I don't think one needs to view being betrayed as a net positive just because they learned something from it. Ridiculing people can sometimes propt people to explore themselves though. There's a level where it's uncomfortable, but won't damage someone. I think that's the best space for someone to learn from experiences instead of getting pushed further into bitterness and anger. Often it's not done to help people though, often it's done to bully them. And I think it's quite pathetic to bully peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:02 PM
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I think that's a fair take.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:57 PM
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We don't have to agree, although it's better to not expect to come to an immediate agreement on a debate sub. I feel like you're just quitting because you feel like I got you in a corner. You can't tell why it's "living properly" to live making these kinds of mistakes. Obviously I'm not going to force you to keep on talking, but think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:56 PM
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So what did it bring you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:52 PM
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I don't see why disliking someone means you're not "tolerant" enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:52 PM
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Yeah, I though that was funny too. Nobody said they supported Trump, that was a assumption on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:51 PM
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Fools take wise quotes to heart. Wise men know how to look beyond.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:50 PM
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You're viewing those stupid things as "properly living". You still value it. How can you claim to have changed when in reality you feel like that was part of "properly" living? Should I lie on my deathbed and feel sad because I didn't fuck lots of different girls who I don't really care about at the end of the day?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:49 PM
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They seem to think that supporting someone that's so blatantly a misogynist to the degree of endorsing them means that you're likely one yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:48 PM
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I'd date a girl that's a "loser". Is it still hypocritical then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:45 PM
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Most people in their 20's aren't that stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:43 PM
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Does that reason actually make sense though?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:42 PM
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Dude, where are these women? Is this like an American thing? Because this seems completely insane and not something that overlaps with the way most women IRL think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:40 PM
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Can we really decouple our past from the person we are today that much? It clearly implies some things about the person, no? That being said, I'd probably rather date a girl that's been to jail if it wasn't something like straight up murdering someone. I feel like I can personally empathize more with that, even if I don't really get in trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:38 PM
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But it isn't just behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:57 PM
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That's bullshit, right? I've 100% been creeped out by someone having a crooked eye before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:46 PM
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Imagine being such a coomer that you can't even imagine people being different from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:13 AM
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It's not a no-brainer. These high preferences aren't neccesarily an inherently biological thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:18 AM
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More likely =/ all of them would jump at the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:10 PM
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If I murder someone who's murdered children, I'd still consider myself better than the person who murdered innocent children. Also, let's not murder people who the state considers to be rapists. The state has enough power as is, I'd rather not normalize them murdering people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:08 PM
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Yet in my family line, there've been men that couldn't be more respectful of women, breaking with what their own parents did. And they did so on their own accord. Nobody forced them, there were just genuinely good people. As for the countries you're talking about: these are not just countries where men are "left to their own devices", these are countries >dominated< by men. Domination is always going to involve oppression sadly. Women in wars have commited war crimes too. It's a place where insa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:58 PM
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Hurting a pedophile is horrible, but it's not the same as hurting a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:41 PM
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Assuming that you're right (which I don't), have you ever been able to find someone attractive without assaulting them? Don't you have a moral compass? A part of you that cares about other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:54 AM
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They were almost genocided by the Germans. Do you realize what that trauma does to people? Do you have any idea how many people were murdered, enslaved and raped by the German army? It doesn't justify anything, but it does show that these are extraordinary circumstances. War is about the lowest that humans can get. We didn't grow up in the middle of a war of extermination. Nor were our parents traumatized by the Russian Civil war which claimed many millions of lives before the second world war.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:34 AM
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No? Why would I?...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:32 AM
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I'm not a racist, "I just because black men are all rapists that need to be kept in check."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:31 AM
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Do you think these women represent the majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:27 PM
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Alright, so maybe it's once again cultural. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:21 PM
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Some people believe fucking around to be a dimorphic thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:35 AM
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Oh yeah, people act really weird about that. The idea that liking slim women is anything like being creepy towards children is genuinely idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:23 AM
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All of your traits are centered on them being small. I don't think their insults are fair though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:18 AM
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You can. But I think insults can be a fair expression of anger. It being understandable or just outright cruel or unneccesary depends on the context for me. I don't think the word "problematic" is really able to capture any nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:17 AM
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There's actually not that much evidence that this attraction is "natural". It might very well be a cultural influence from Western culture. I've seen studies that studied tribes that haven't been in contact with western culture as much, in which they reported a lot less height preferences. I don't see why you both have to have the same attributes either, can't you be attracted to someone with a certain trait even if (or because) they don't share the same traits as you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:12 AM
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King Redpill, what are you doing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:09 AM
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Anger is a natural part of being a human. I don't see the point in being all lovely dovey all the time. Obviously that doesn't mean you should go around antagonising people and tagetting their insecurities for no reason. That just makes you a shitty person that nobody likes having around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:07 AM
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Do you also apply this logic to things like height?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:05 AM
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The way you word it does make you sound a bit creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:04 AM
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Oh fuck me sideways then, I guess I'm problematic af.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:04 AM
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Idk about "problematic", but it does make you sound like a manchild with mommy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:02 AM
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Not neccesarily, it might also be wanting someone to have similar values. Anyways, what's so horrible about insecurity or jealousy in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:47 AM
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That's not what my comment was about. Did you read what I wrote? It's not about ego, it's about apparently not opening up to me as quickly as other people. If you have a harder time trusting me, we're probably not a great match.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:46 AM
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Many people with little self respect sleep around in the hopes of getting validation from strangers. Not always obviously, but often.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:16 PM
1

What makes men and women different from your perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:44 PM
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You'd be incompatible, yes. You're not looking for the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:16 PM
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Yeah, you'd be incompatible. Doesn't mean either person is in the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:15 PM
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If you open up to someone really quickly, but are really reluctant towards me. I don't think the assumption that we're not a good match is that far off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:14 PM
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What's boring about not fucking around with a lot of different people?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:13 PM
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Do you really think that shaming people about their insecurities is going to do anything? It's almost certain you're insecure about stupid shit too, who are you trying to fool?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:11 PM
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They're saying that if you do this, you shouldn't try to conceal it because it's dishonest. You shouldn't have to conceal it. Just look for a man who appericates it more. I know women who had sex too early in a relationship because they were scared their date would leave them otherwise. That's even more harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:05 PM
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For me it is. And for a lot of other men too. So why not seek a man who's more compatible with the kind of life you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:02 PM
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Seems like our brains are fundamentally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:11 PM
2

30 isn't old at all, but it does start to narrow the age for having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:08 PM
3

That's seems like an overstatement tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:07 PM
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Yeah, more shallow sex please! The more regrets, the better life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:58 PM
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You're still willing to pressure them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:33 PM
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That's actually insane. That's an actually insane take. Why should men be reponsible for the happiness of women? We should encourage healthy relationships, but there's no need to shame any- wait a second...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:32 PM
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"Give us better quality" jesus Christ, are the men and women of this sub ever going to allow themselves to fall in love?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:21 PM
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Marriage is just a contract, isn't it? (Unless you're religious view or give it a cultural value). You can be in a union together without marrying. Marriage isn't needed to build a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:19 PM
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You can build something deeper with one person. Not everyone is into pure hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:16 PM
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Yes, but also a consequence of larger societal problems. The US is going to have a 50% obesity rate for both men and women in 2030. Less stress and better food would be a complete game changer and would probably be a major factor in turning the tide towards a better world, but it would mean someone would have to go against corporate and maybe even government interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:27 PM
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True, but getting an iphone will probably kill a few kids in Congo. This goes for most consumption. Obviously drugs aren't good. But when you want to look at societal consequences like Cartels, at least consider the societal problems. The opioid crisis causes 100.000 deaths in the US every year and a lot of it is caused by poverty, lack of education and an overpercription of medication. You're right about a lot of the personal advice, but on a larger societal scale the question should be: does g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:15 PM
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They specifically mentioned non-Western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:01 PM
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Most of those guys are handsome af, what are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:10 AM
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What? I don't fucking care about who's the "natural leader" or whatever. Both men and women can try their best to prevent pregnancy, but even then there's a decent chance it'll still happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:18 PM
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"Pulling out" is still far less effective than the pill. And I'm sure the effectiveness of that depends on the man too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:55 PM
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You could say this about women too. How effective is the pill again? Aside from bodily autonomy we keep hearing that poverty is a fine reason for abortion too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:21 PM
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Are you really a feminist if you just thoughtlessly walk along with traditional gender roles? It's so easy to call yourself a feminist, but I've seen far fewer women actually live up to any feminist ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:08 PM
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A woman having complete control over their bodies makes sense, but that can also be used to abort for financial or "I'm not ready" reasons. We view these as valid reasons. Why then can't men justify their leaving under the same reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:07 PM
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Depends on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:25 PM
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they dont, who cares if im never going to see him again. youre probably drunk anyway,. That sounds incrediibly sad to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:58 PM
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There's more nuance to this world than: "Sex is degrading and an act of submission of the woman." and "Sex is fun and it means literally nothing."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:57 PM
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I've heard more Jordon Petersons complain about casual sex and dehumanisation than "neo-Marxists", but sure, it's the leftists who are trying to prevent you from casual fucking. Believe me, I'm quite unique when compared to my left leaning friends. They all view it as something to "broaden their experiences" or something, while the conservative Christians I know look upon it with a sense of disgust. There's always exceptions ofcourse, but in general I'd say leftism and feminism as we know them r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:52 PM
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That's not true, it's also dehumanising if you view it as something personal and close. You'd be breaking through that boundry to obey your most animal instincts. And do you really care who they are at the end of the day? Or do you only see them as an easy way to get your fix? You can have this "progressive" view of sex just being a fun activity like anything else, but a lot of people view it differently. And it's not just because they view it as degrading or shameful, that's an incredible overs…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:49 PM
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Nah, you're painting with too broad strokes here. There's lots of different people with different motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:33 PM
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I honestly doubt that casual sex will really improve your life that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:31 PM
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The amount of different partners you've had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:30 PM
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Isn't thing something you can communicate about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:29 PM
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The mental health thing might be a causation, correlation thing no? A lot of people with healthy boundries won't like casual sex as much, same with people who have an exciting life otherwise. Also, some people have casual sex as a way of selfharm even, or because they need constant approval. So what is it? Do hookups make them unhappy or were they already unhappy before that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:28 PM
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No seriously, I've kept away from it because even flirting without any connection made me feel deeply sad inside and I assumed that a lot of the guys here just didn't see the appeal of that lifestyle either. Now they're all saying: "I'm angry that I'm not a swinger that goes to orgies and ends up in someone else's bed every night"? I don't understand, isn't it quite easy to find your way into that lifestyle if you seek these people out?...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:21 PM
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You sound jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:19 PM
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Yeah, it sounds like a stupid thing to strive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:18 PM
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Wait so none of y'all mf's are doing it because you want someone with similar values or something?.. You're just resentful?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:15 PM
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It's bad to the younger woman if she's easily to manipulate because of it. And 23 and 18 are very different things already. Those 5 years out of highschool and extra brain development change a lot of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:33 PM
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Maybe I don't understand online dating dynamics, but what made you think she wanted to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:13 PM
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Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:28 PM
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Dude, I don't fucking care about "teams". And I wasn't mindlessly defending her, I was just thinking about the premise in my head and forgot the details of what she said by the time I wrote that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:35 AM
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Oh, that's weird af
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:15 AM
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There's a balance there, being completeley agreeable and having no boundries will easily get you into things you don't want to. Being overly aggressive can make people angry or aggressive. I don't see why they're contradictory, seems like there's plenty of nuance there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:26 PM
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Why view it like a video game? You're not "unlocking" anything, you're getting to know eachother and in the proces you discover the more vulnerable parts of someone's personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:23 PM
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The person I reacted to said: "If she can't keep Chad interested." or something like that and that she's now "dating on her level". I fucking hate someone who'd try to put me in a "league". Aside from that? Yeah, I feel like people should be smart enough to not get into a lot of relationships with shitty people, but I know that judgement from my side. I'll see if I still believe that in a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:20 PM
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I like the "soft" parts of "femininity", but the no boundries and "submissive" part doesn't serve anyone except abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:18 PM
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I don't think getting someone to trust you is something you "earn", that's just a way of putting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:17 PM
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Who even wants to earn a "submissive housewife"? And I also don't understand why you'd have to be "aggressive"? Can't you be authentic and still be great at setting boundries?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:13 PM
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Dude, what kind of weird fucked up ideas do y'all have about eachother? Every time I look on this sub, there's the most vile stuff being commented about men and women, mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:12 PM
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That's not what stats show, right? A lot of stats show that male and female virginity have never been higher. Idk what tf people are doing nowadays, they're at home playing stardew valley, playing fortnite or listening to K-pop or whatever, but they're not fuckin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:10 PM
2

A lot of people in our generation don't fuck, right? Is that really an accurate statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:48 PM
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Obviously, I'm just saying that people shouldn't be suprised
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:32 PM
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Well I fucking hope that's not it, if it is, it shouldn't be a fucking suprise that people don't react as well to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:20 PM
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If they'd rather be with someone else? No. I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:10 PM
2

That's fair. I agree. And if women have dated abusive men in the past? Well let's be fair: lots of men will consider her to broken in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:26 PM
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I'm not going to be "settled" for. Fuck that. Obviously men aren't going to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:23 PM
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Reddit made me hate the phrase: "consequences for your actions" because that's whatever people will just say whenever says they're being treated unfairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:22 PM
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You're always allowed to change, but what does OP mean by changing? Does he mean becoming "mean" instead of "nice"? Because obviously people aren't going to like that. That has nothing to do with sexism and everything with the fact that people don't like assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:21 PM
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Both are learning to set boundries. I think that's good, just don't let bitterness consume you in the proces. I've honestly not heard of women getting hateful or angry at guys who don't let themselves get stringed along, but if you did experience that then that sounds quite unfair. I just didn't experience that myself, I've only had women that were happy with me for not puppying along with her, because it set the relationship on a more equal footing, which is a lot less uncomfortable. I'm still …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:10 PM
2

I don't want to leverage my strength for rich people to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:31 PM
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Yeah, I'm not sure if it's wrong, but it's certainly pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:36 PM
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Yeah, I can't imagine it mattering that much in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:34 PM
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I love cheating on my wife charlie! I LOVE CHEATING!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:34 PM
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What if you lied to save a life? And is every lie the same? I feel like lying about your career so someone's impressed with you is different from lying about cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:31 PM
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That doesn't make them assholes. How many men wouldn't be with a woman who has vaginismus? Especially in the case where it wouldn't be treatable. And it might also very well be that you're talking with a specific subset of women. We all grow up in different bubbles. I know some women who genuinely wouldn't care, I know others that would.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:24 PM
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Go to r/bigdickproblems. Almost all of them agree that women have no fucking idea what they're talking about. Generally speaking they're horrible at guessing the length of a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:10 PM
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My bad, I'm viewing this from my own perspective. I probably wouldn't care about that kind of women in the first case. Not judging eachother over being "unusual" has been incredibily important to me. I should have taken into account that you might very well be into those kinds of women and that's fair too. Honestly, that would suck, but you'll only need a few women who don't really care that much in order to get some experience, right? I personally feel like you'll be fine, but I don't know dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:52 PM
6

Is having sex at an early age a sign of someone being social?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:41 PM
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Most women here don't seem to mind, but aside from that, don't worry so much about women with shallow ideas about relationships and milestones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:32 PM
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Why would you even want to be with someone that believes in something so stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:31 PM
7

If a woman called their filtering out men with trauma "draining the swamp" I'd call them disgusting too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:59 PM
8

Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:56 PM
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Jesus you people are rotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:52 PM
6

You can do whatever you like too, that doesn't make it's a smart thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:48 PM
9

There's like billions of Facebook users.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:37 PM
1

Then it makes even less sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:36 PM
3

What makes you think that? None of the men I know IRL would ever expect that from their date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:35 PM
6

Oh yeah, I actually remember that, that was incredibily stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:33 PM
8

I think I can make better judgements about someone's character than the stupid box you put them in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:32 PM
5

Wait, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:30 PM
1

Obviously not. Cooking together is one of the most fun activities anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:24 PM
7

People who think it's common sense won't comment under that facebook post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:24 PM
0

What about the men in the middle? Especially teenagers who didn't make a decision on how the world works yet. Don't you want them to keep them away from Red Pill communities? Confirming their Alpha male bullshit would be one of the worst ways to get them into that ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:03 PM
3

Yeah, I don't understand either. I was trying to see if I could make the argument work, but it doesn't. That being said, "confidence" is often confused with something that's more alike to a mask. Psychopaths are a lot better at setting up a mask so they're generally seen as incredibily charismatic and confident. I've seen genuinely horrible people being great at getting relationships because of it, especially with less sharp and wise women. Also, being manipulated sets back feminism because it m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:18 PM
6

I would rather not have that kind of extreme judgement in our society. People should look for genuine connections because they actually want to form them. I don't want to date a girl and find out she'd rather be hooking up with people. That sounds awful. Not the mention how much it would increase the chance someone might cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:09 PM
7

There's not that many psychopaths out there, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:06 PM
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When I was just a little thing, I used to love parades, With banners, bands, red balloons, and maybe lemonade. When I came home one May Day, my neighbor's father said, "Them marchers is all commies - tell me, kid, are you a red?" Well, I didn't know just what he meant, my hair back then was brown, Our house was plain red brick like most others in the town, So I went and asked my mamma why our neighbor called me red, My mommy took me on her knee and this is what she said: "Well, you ain't donе no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:01 PM
2

I'm not in favor of anything like this, it sounds absolutely insane, but I could imagine the arguments to something like: It's bad for society because these men get to raise children who will be all kinds of fucked up because of it. It's bad for society because psychopaths will most likely hurt these women. It's toxic masculinity because our society idealizes "confident" men, which often just means psychopaths, it's a self reinforcing loop where more men will try to act this way to get laid. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:58 PM
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Not trusting people to choose their partners and not giving a fuck about their wishes sounds quite psychopathic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:57 PM
6

Marxism isn't an ideology, it's just a lense to view the world. Yeah, but we still know what conclusions you're (most likely) going to draw.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:11 PM
3

Hahaha, you're literally selling a certain vision about sex. Just like the porn industry is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:36 AM
2

People on this sub are really sensitive about their porn for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:48 AM
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That's a really easy opt-out. "I-I bet you're a sexist/homophobe/feminist/communist, I'm no longer wish going to argue with you." Aside from the hypocricy, they didn't say anything weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:44 AM
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Loooo, you fucking produce porn yourself? That's so incredibily hypocritical I can't even
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:37 AM
7

Yeah, I'm sure that quitting cigarettes can be stopped more easily by fixing the underlying emotional problems or whatever, that doesn't mean the cigarettes won't cause damage to your lungs lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:44 PM
2

Yeah no, sometimes addictions are stronger than something you can fix by going to therapy or meditate on a mountain whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:42 PM
-1

Y'all have sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:40 PM
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I'm not saying it's all porn. This is like saying: "smoking causes cancer" and you say: "but there was cancer before people smoked!"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:40 PM
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Jesus Christ, some of you have such a victim complex, it's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:35 PM
3

Ah, you meant the psychological aspect. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:33 PM
4

Can't it be both?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:30 PM
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Let's not pretend porn doesn't have any effect in what's normalized and fetishized. Before I watched porn, I didn't care about having a large penis. Now I do. Anyways, I think women in this society are incredibily sick too, obviously. Childhood abuse is heavily correlated to these fantasies and >lots< of children are being treated shitty by their parents or at school. If men can be damaged from porn and abuse, why wouldn't the same be true for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:19 PM
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I've never heard this logic being accepted when applied to women and vibrators. Although that doesn't actively promote rape fantasies to teenagers, so I guess that's 1+ for the vibe at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:08 PM
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Yeah, it's not just porn. It's never just the addiction. That doesn't mean the addiction can't negatively impact your relationship though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:06 PM
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I'm already like that, but I'm really close to my family. I wonder if that has an effect too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:00 PM
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Only gripe I have is that in real life these traits aren't isolated from eachother, something like "confidence" might very well correlate with some dark triad traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:42 PM
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Does anyone here really look at people and view them as a sex symbol? I've never felt that way about someone tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:39 PM
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Ah, that's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:39 PM
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Yeah, you're the top dog. You're basically the 1%... Bourgeoisie detected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:38 PM
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I'm saying that someone being "good" shouldn't have anything to do with what women want. I'm not "good" by any means, I'm not trying to say I'm a great person, but I'm more "good" than bad. And I wouldn't become worse or "dominant" for the sake of attracting women. Anyways, I've seen plenty of men who are "good" that aren't having a mental breakdown over them being a genetic reject, but it can be hard at times. Honestly, it would still be easier for women to get into a relationship if they play …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:33 PM
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I just edited my comment to elaborate a bit. Anyways studies always have flaws. Pooling together all the "good" and "bad" personality traits seems like a mistake from my POV too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:25 PM
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I'm saying that there's a lot of factors that could make this study inaccurate. Being told someone is bad is very different from actually experieincing someone acting in a bad way. And "goodness" and "badness" aren't that well defined. Someone being pushy might considered a good trait to some, while others despise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:17 PM
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What if the "positive information" from other people just registers in our brain as: "Ah, so they're high status"? This is something different from actually seeing it happen. Would you still care about someone's bad qualities if they treat >you< well, while treating the rest bad? In that sense the real world is far more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:14 PM
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That's not the same as teaching them to be ruthless and selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:11 PM
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What has that to do with having to break the concept of love at a young age and teaching them to become selfish and ruthless?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:08 PM
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Most of the people on this sub wouldn't consider this to be virtueous. My comment has enough stuff for both feminists and redpillers to turn away. That being said, it's insane to me that you would raise your children so they're appealing to women. Being a decent person isn't something you do because you want to be appealing to women. And there's a lot more to life than being appealing to the average woman in this society. Same goes for women btw, you shouldn't build your life around being "good"…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:05 PM
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I'm not kind because I want to be a sex symbol. Why should you care this much about what women want? There's also a lot more to someone's character than being kindhearted. Obviously just being kindhearted won't make you a good match to everyone. Aside from that, most women I know are damaged as fuuck. Obviously a lot of women don't have a really healthy attraction in the first place. Why change yourself to appease that kind of insecurity that seeks "dominance"? The idea women on this sub have of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:57 PM
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Ah, in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:55 PM
3

These people are actually insane lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:51 PM
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I think a lot of people "deserve" love honestly. It's just that you can't force it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:36 PM
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Who tf would want to be with a woman that only has sex as a way to extract value from them later on?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:32 PM
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Most people with rape kinks are mentally damaged. There's a reason why it's strongly associated with childhood abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:19 PM
4

That's not an automatic green light. That's a silly assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:19 PM
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You sound like such a tough guy. This is like a middelschool insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:15 PM
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Dude, American culture is fucking confusion. I can't even.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:14 PM
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And other women wouldn't have liked it. That's the whole thing. You're not representative of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:12 PM
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Who cares about putting up a act for women? Why care so much about their "ideal"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:10 PM
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I don't see why someone with a "heart of gold" would grab someone's ass that early. Is this like an American thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:08 PM
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That's not a green light. What kind of women are you even interacting with?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:05 PM
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Y'all are so obsessed with being "dominant" it's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:03 PM
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Pretty sure the majority of people would find that somewhat creepy. Although maybe I live in a more "conservative" bubble than y'all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:02 PM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:18 PM
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What do you think the problem is? Do you think women just aren't that into someone cold approaching them or do you think it had something to do with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:03 AM
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Yeah, it seems stupid to me, but I've never tried so I can't really speak on the effectiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:56 PM
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No, in the literal definition. At least in my country. Seems like the same is true for the USA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape_in_the_United_States
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:28 PM
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It was legal to rape your wife until the last 3 to 5 decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:53 PM
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Oh ffs sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:51 PM
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Such victimization.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:48 PM
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How do you think people got addicted in the first place? People don't just start using opioids out of nowhere. It often starts with a hospital perscription.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:05 PM
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Doctors were handing it out like candy back when the pharma industry lied to them telling them oxycodone was harmless and non addictive. That's like one of the big reasons for the fentanyl crisis in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:21 AM
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Yeah, it still means you're body is getting a lack of good nutrients and movement. Just getting rid of the fat won't make you healthy, that's just one part of it. Not to mention all the side effects from the drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:21 AM
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That doesn't mean it can't have any other side effects. I googled it and it has like 20 possible side effects, some of which are more dangerous and rare than the other, yet they still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:18 AM
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https://nuancepill.com/no-most-people-are-not-meeting-online/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:54 AM
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How did you come to the conclusion on point 1 about non-western women being more accepting of "softer" men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:53 AM
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https://nuancepill.com/did-1-man-reproduce-for-every-17-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:06 AM
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Men do that to women too. "She's not the prettiest, but I know they'll be easy to manipulate." I've seen that shit happen. Believe me, men can be quite horrible in that regard too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:02 AM
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Bluepill, blackpill, redpill. How about you get some bitches on your dick, nigga?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:10 PM
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The whole idea of setteling is dropping your unrealistic standards to get something from people, right? Men do that too. I know men who just want someone to elevate their status or clean for them. There's no more love in that than a woman setteling for similar reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:09 PM
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Same shit as people calling men "incels". It's so incredibily stupid, it's actually unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:44 PM
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No you didn't you just said they're full of shit. You never made any arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:39 PM
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Women are notorious for not wanting men as slaves lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:04 PM
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They're more likely than previous generations to be at home all day, playing video games, reading books and working out instead of going to parties and drinking alcohol. Also, if you can't afford to rent a house and live with your parents, bringing lots of different partners home is going to be a lot less appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:56 AM
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Sure, but you can still give a little bit of pushback, no?... I feel like that's always helpful honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:56 AM
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Might be because young people are stupid and not using contraception right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:55 AM
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One partner a month? Most people have like... 7 in their entire life. That means one a month is literally 50 times as high if you kept that up for 30 years. That's a lot of new partners, a lot of your brain having to adjust to new partners constantly. I'm not sure about the psychological repercussions, but I've personally found people with a lot of new partners to be quite mentally unstable. Although that might just be a chicken and egg story, what came first? The person being miserable or the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:53 AM
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Yeah maybe, I'm not sure. Another factor could be the fact that we already have lots of media for boys to explore their sexuality. Sexualized women are literally everywhere, you don't need something as specific as a music band.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:49 PM
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Maybe a safe ways for girls to explore having a "crush" without managing the real consequences of a relationship? Some of the teenagers I've known find direct confrontation scary and would rather crush from a distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:35 PM
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Why? Marriage is just a contract, no? And cheatings really hurts your partner, not being married and having sex together doesn't. I don't see how they compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:55 PM
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What's the problem with "feminist"? I mean people who parade it around can be a bit weird, but it doesn't indicate something fundamentally wrong. Seems like you want them to have the same policial opinion as yourself too. Aside from that, you could also just consider dating more ethnicities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:49 PM
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Ah, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:01 PM
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Hahahaha! No fucking way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:00 PM
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OP's post history is full of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:55 PM
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That seems silly, why would you do that?... How much can the attention of others possibily be worth to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:54 PM
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Being attracted is normal, but just for the sake of argument: do you watch a lot of porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:52 PM
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I'm not saying that we should generalize everyone who dresses in a certain way. I'm talking about the larger cultural trend that's behind these clothing styles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:49 PM
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It's not deep to say that our culture is reflected in our clothing styles and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:48 PM
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I'm not trying to prove anything. I have no interest as ousting you as a porn addict. I'm just saying that you might be oversexualizing people, rather than just them being the problem. It really depends on how you frame it. Now it seems the person who reacted to you believes you're deep into porn. I won't comment on how true that is, but I'll say that this is most likely what their argument boils down to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:38 PM
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I think the kinds of people who surround you are also incredibily important, even when you can't and shouldn't want to control that. That being said, it seems fair to say that we as a culture should try to cultivate more authenticity instead chasing after status so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:34 PM
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What's wrong with you? She gave one of the most nuanced positions so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:33 PM
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It rewires your brain, making everything far more sexualized. Maybe it's not just women who are pornifying themselves, maybe it's >you< who have a scewed perspective? You want to hold women responsible, but it's far easier to hold yourself responsible, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:30 PM
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It's what our society values. You can't expect a society to look different when it brings along the idea that a woman's status is at least depedenet by how many men desire her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:21 PM
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Why? I can't control the lack of greenery outside, yet it can still bother you. You can still wish your society would value building parks more, even if you can't directly control it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:19 PM
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I've never seen anyone genuinely believe that. It seems like an internet thing tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:39 AM
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Aaaaaah, beaten once again! You've got me this time woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:38 AM
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mkay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:35 AM
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I had to look up what "shit test" means, but I'm pretty sure that's wrong. My communist beliefs have generally scared women rather than reassure them lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:35 AM
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The liberal myth of progressivsim is that progress always advances in history. That's just not how it works. Anyways, I've said something very cool and progressive/feminist, now will you be part of harem?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:32 AM
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I'm talking about the other guy too. Y'all just keep flapping about how awful and transactional relationships are. Sometimes that's all this sub does. Klap Klap Klap. And it's to the point that I'm wondering why people on this sub are even interested in building a relationship in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:25 AM
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I personally think "I don't need a man" is a great mindset, but I 100% agree with you that this "girlboss" thing has just become a covert way to get women to work themselves to flesh and bone. Anyways, do you believe there are more options than having a family and pursuing a career?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:21 AM
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Is that like an American thing? Because I'm not afraid to flirt because of metoo honestly. You just got to be attentive of each other's boundries, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:18 AM
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If I didn't know better, I'd give up on love. Y'all are so incredibily cynical, it's unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:16 AM
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So they have less dating options? Why is that bad? If women want to live by their values, good for them honestly. If they start saying stupid things, don't be afraid to push back a bit. Obviously they're going to be wrong about stuff sometimes. Nobody has the truth, and that includes you. We can fool ourselves that "center ideology" is closer to the truth, but that's not neccesarily how it works either. The real world is too complex and nuanced to be captured like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:13 AM
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But it was too late for him, his heart was gone And in it's place was a black hole that yearned to be filled Not by love but by power An all consuming desire to have everything, everything, everything Everything, everything Everything, everything Everything, everything Everything, everything I just want to be loved ('Cause love is power of course) Is that asking so much (I want to hoard a scarce resource) I just wanna be loved (By someone out of my league) Just some human touch (If you're a six …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:05 PM
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I don't think I would want to trade your life with mine. And while I feel like lots of men would disagree with me on that, others would fullheartily agree. Because it's nice to build something and have a personal connection with >one< person. I don't see why being rich would change that honestly. And regardless of relationships, I don't really want to be on a boat with hookers, that sounds lonely. You seem to value money and your status a lot. Perhaps that's why it seems so much scarier and fool…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:59 PM
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20 dollars says that most of this guy's experience on women comes from short form content on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:56 PM
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"Guys, I feel an connection with guys, but not women. So I've been thinking and I want an honest answer: what do you think is more likely, the fact that I find it difficult to relate to women, or do you think they don't exist and that we're all living in a simulation in which only men are real?" Lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:55 PM
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I think their point is that women automatically side with other women on this sub, while men have a diverse range of opinions. I honestly disagree, but I do think women on this sub tend to stick together more. Which honestly makes sense to me, I think it's likely because women were never the main audience of the redpill, it doesn't focus on convincing women that they're only into chads as much as they tell that story to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:00 PM
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LIES! The man speaks lies! Men come from GOD, while women reproduce asexually effectively making them GENETIC CLONES. It is a DISGRACE to imply otherwise. It is, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:57 PM
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People don't like being judged by people. Call it whiny all you want, it's something that would bother a lot of people. Especially when they're younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:19 AM
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Or confront them by charging into them like a bold donkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:17 AM
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I've seen men do it too. They thought the women were ruining themselves. Anyways, what about hurting others, not dressing modestly enough? There comes a point at which judgement about them being a "whore" or a "sociopath son of bitch" will come out. That's shaming too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:14 AM
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Men and women alike love using shame to shape behavior. I think slutshaming is a good example of that. I'm not saying it's healthy to have sex with a lot of parters, but the shame has a very clear purpose here of controlling people - for better or for worse. We shame those who hurt others, we shame those who dress in ways we find unacceptable because it doesn't qualify with ideas about modesty or sexuality. It's something that's used widely in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:08 AM
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Whenever I have my wits about me and have the mental energy to deal with that shit, honestly? I just confront them. I tell them they're being foolish and judgemental and that they need to quit, or at the very least that it's annoys me. Doesn't make me particularily popular, but I'm fine with that. It's worth it, it gives you a sense of integrity and "whole"ness rarely found when you keep quiet about how actually feel. That being said, please don't worry too much about social media. The slippery …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:03 AM
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Yet they're all handsome in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:58 AM
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You're making the mistake of generalizing all women as being the same. Women are incredibily diverse and there's a decent amount of them who will overlook significant flaws if they're viewed as handsome or confident. How common that is, well that really depends on which bubble you're in. Men do this too btw. There's plenty of men who are with women who are just... shitty towards them. Although, it's the the fault of the victim, men who can't set boundries for themselves are far more likely to ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:26 AM
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"The 99% must unite against the top 1%. The sex bourgeosie have gotten far too much power. Therefor the incel proletariat must rise up from the chains into the redpill." Lmaooo! They've literally become commies at this point. It's literally a >red< pill. "We've got nothing to lose but our virginity!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:11 AM
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That doesn't mean that people can't be more biased to notice attractive looking people right? And with ugly people that are horrible you might think: "Why would I interact with them?" But when they're horrible and handsome? You just might tolerate it. At least some people work like that. And aside from looks, our society is 100% biased towards: "confidence", which often just ends up being someone who doesn't respect boundries. That would still support the convinct story.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:04 AM
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I would want someone to stay with me because they actually want to. Not because I'm their only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:51 AM
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I don't think stats support this, although I'll say that plenty of women seem attracted to shitty men because of this false sense of "confidence." And I might imagine that these women, as well as women who've just had horrible luck are both going to have less favorable views about men. In the first case though, it's partially because of their own lack of confidence and ability to set boundries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:39 AM
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It's actually the other way around in Disney movies. Anyways, I don't believe in this chad - beta distinction, but purely limiting yourself to people who are "high status" will 100% deprive yourself of genuine connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:34 AM
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Yet I've heard people say they'd still prefer that life because it's closer to that ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:34 PM
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You'd be suprised. Ever heard of neo-luddites? The cottagecore kinds of people who say: "Fuck modern life, I want to go into nature and have a little farm and leave all this bullshit behind."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:24 PM
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Yeah it really depends on what you mean. Do you mean the 50's only? Or do you mean medieval peasants? Because they might have worked less hours than we did. Obviously they worked far harder than many people do right and that's without healthcare, but they also had several months of free time. Both man and woman would have to work really hard whenever the farms needed to be maintained though. And in ancient times, women had their own bussinesses too. Same goes for prehistoric times where women wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:15 PM
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I don't think you have to be a feminist to complain about poverty hitting you hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:02 PM
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Yeah, I'm not going to offer up my life for money. A life is worth more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:01 PM
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No, I want someone who I can connect with as a whole. Not because they're in their "hoe phase" or something stupid like that. I've refused casual sex in the past for that exact reason, why would I want to participate in something so shallow and empty? I'm sure I wouldn't do that great in the hookup scene, but it's a very concious choice all the same. Same with someone saying: "Oh I'm ready to settle down now." no, fuck that. I'm not someone's security line. I'm not nearly desperate enough for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:13 PM
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I don't see women crying on camera either, maybe on some social media sites. If I had to guess it's because people react very different to men and women crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:09 PM
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Who doesn't want their partner to be attracted to them? And I would never be with someone for the sake of getting children. That's incredibily transactional thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:01 PM
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You can easily develop a bond which causes her to be "first choice" by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:59 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:57 PM
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I've seen some men who've thought like this. I'm sure there's women who do too. And for the sake of this argument I assumed this was widespread, because that's the scenario OP outlined.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:11 PM
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People can grow in those 10 years. The reasoning behind the "Yes" or "No" matters far more than the actual answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:10 PM
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I don't think it's that widespread, but if it was it would suck right? Why wouldn't men complain about not finding someone who doesn't just want to use them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:59 PM
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There's men who do this too. Looking for a woman to settle down with to take care of them while complaining to friends about how they're not as attractive as their previous partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:58 PM
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I'm talking about OP's scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:51 PM
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See how OP talks about different men being good for different things? Don't you see how that's transactional thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:41 PM
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Depends on how mature she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:39 PM
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Why should I want to be with someone who just wants to use me for whatever I'm convenient for at the moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:36 PM
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Or maybe men don't like being used for whatever they're convenient for at that moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:34 PM
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Nothing, but it's probably unhealthy. In my experience these people are often quite selfish, not to mention immature. They're not looking to build a connection with someone, they're looking for someone to give them sex, a house or family.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:30 PM
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This has got to be the laziest feminist argument at this point. Whenever men mention something, some jackass will shout "Men want control!" and everyone agrees mindlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:29 PM
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I'd rather do that than be with someone who sees me as a convenient latch onto maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:26 PM
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It's proof that an app where men make up the vast majority of users benefits from men making more effort, because the few women would never intiate contact with all those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:35 AM
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I've once met a dude who was 30 and dating a 18 year old. He was the biggest manchild I've ever encountered. He worked in making mozaics in pools and thought he was kind of like "Robin Hood" because rich people payed him money for it. He also uncomfortability ended the conversation after he discovered his philosophical talks didn't really impress me, although maybe he just thought I was unbearable to deal with. Anyways, aside from any judgement it just makes sense to me. Ofcourse he wasn't going…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:52 AM
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Alright, fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 10:22 PM
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Also, people giving advice must work with what they've got. In a lot of cases these people show how desperate they are online and people assume that this probably translates into real life too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 10:03 PM
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Meh, I've seen especially women with lower self esteem become uncomfortable when they were treated really nice by someone, because they feel like they don't deserve it. Or sometimes it's abuse, they think it's a trick to get something from them, which sometimes it is. You can't choose who you're attracted to, but I'll say that the people I've been attracted to have become healthier over my life as I figured myself out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 10:02 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:14 PM
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I would easily trade sex for commitment, if it even had to be a choice in the first place. Isn't it in the interest of both of us to keep the relationship healthy?..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:56 PM
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Could you outline some of these different interests?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:41 PM
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I don't care for reconciling these two mindsets, but I don't see why I would spend my whole life working to support someone financially. I also wouldn't care about someone earning more money, but I would like it if they didn't spend their whole lives on their career either. I don't think either one of us should have to waste their lives away at home or work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:36 PM
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I don't understand why you would want to incentivize single motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:11 PM
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I actually like learning about new stuff a lot. I wouldn't mind if we had fairly different interests as long as the interaction feels right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:49 PM
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That seems like a silly reason to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:39 PM
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It really depends on the kind of game, right? And both being addicted to games won't make for a happy relationship either I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:32 PM
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Yeye
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:17 PM
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I love games, but I don't think I'd offer all of that up for a silly battlepass. This isn't an issues of games, it's an issue of addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:16 PM
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Why do you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:10 PM
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That's fair. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 08:49 PM
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That's a really physical way of looking at it, isn't it the feelings and wanting to build something together that matters in the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:37 PM
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I wholeheartily disagree. Sex helps a lot, but it isn't the only thing that's able to forge that bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:31 PM
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Can't you fall in love with someone without having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:12 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:19 AM
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Yeah, I understand. I honestly wonder the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:18 AM
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I consider myself quite "feminist", but then again I've fought with feminists over and over again because I thought they were being disgusting or stupid. The label has lost most value I think. I could also call myself a men's rights activist, but we all know how loaded that term has become. Anyways, why wouldn't it be rape morally if they were both not able to consent? I'm not saying the law should lock them both up as rapists, but I do think it still has an incredible potential for damaging the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:15 AM
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There's no reliable to find out, but I think most of the times they're both going to be drunk since drinking is a social activity most people are expected to partake in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:12 AM
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I don't like agreeing with him, but I agree with his take here, at least on most accounts. I've never heard about the "written consent" thing though and when he starts ranting about "muh radical left" he gets annoying as fuck, but a lot of it I agree with wholeheartedly. Why is this "party culture" so normalized amongst students even though it goes against so many of their proclaimed morals? Do people completely lack any sense of self-reflection?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:06 AM
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Do you think two people can rape eachother, technically? Or would you put that under a different classification? Whatever you choose, it doesn't seem like something that doesn't deserve the be recorded.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:58 AM
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I talk to women in the same way. I really don't care about winning their favor. I'm not sure why you're so convinced of that. Don't try to make this about me. It's you who seems hellbend on denying that people can't always give consent when they're incredibily drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:57 AM
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When someone is considered sexual assault or not is based on how someone feels in the first place. If someone says they were too intoxicated to give consent, that's should register when you're recording these kinds of things. There's also women who , but that deep down feel like they've gotten assaulted, but they'll deny it to perserve their sanity or because they don't respect their own boundries. It still hurts them though. I'd say this actually means it's likely underreported, rather than ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:53 AM
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What makes you think I'm trying to defend women? I just think you're a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:51 AM
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You know that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:39 AM
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I don't think it's something people do regularly, but I honestly think it's my bubble. Being in control of myself is incredibily important to me and I have disdain for alcohol. This obviously means I won't be hanging around in places where people drink a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:37 AM
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The CDC is right. I don't care about your little womanhating shenanigans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:32 AM
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Most people don't think 1 is "too much".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:31 AM
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Yeah, because that gives you power, instead of taking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:03 AM
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Children are capable of free will too, yet we acknowledge that this is inhibited by their lack of life experience and biology. It's not a question of free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:45 AM
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"Free will" from someone who's spend half their life in highschool and has an underdeveloped brain? At the very least give them a bit more time to experience the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:37 AM
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Voting and being preyed upon by a much older man aren't really the same in amount of risk. And hear me out: maybe 18 year olds shouldn't be send into war or sentenced to death. Luckily, most women with healthy upbringings don't fall for that crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:07 AM
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Lol, you're going to tell me that an 18 year old has a half developed brain?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:00 AM
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Lol, at least you have a developed frontal cortex, unlike her. You can use that frontal cortex to not let yourself get manipulated by a woman who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:58 AM
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Yeah, I'm going to creep on people who are barely adults, because the state won't stop me. And who cares about morals, right? As long as I can't get arrested I don't fucking care. Whoooo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:54 AM
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Kind of weird how we equate asking for advice to "being someone's therapist". As if anything has to happen via market transactions or people somehow feel coerced by a simple question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:19 PM
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Why would it even matter if women don't view you as a "man" when you ask for advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:54 PM
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So, I'm asking someone for advice and now they don't want to fuck me. Even if that's true, why the fuck does that matter? Have you seen how many people there are on this planet? I'm too arrogant to ask for advice in the first place, but I don't see the big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:35 PM
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I think plenty of women are great, but I don't think I would want to date them. Either because of a lack of "spark" or because of simple incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:03 AM
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From a leftist perspective you're completely right. We're treating eachother like commodities rather than people that we love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:16 AM
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Oh nooo, the horror! What if I can't engage in every single of my hedonistic impulses?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:14 AM
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Slash her tires and break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:37 PM
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That seems fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:12 PM
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Not befriending girls because you think they're drama would probably make things rather awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:21 AM
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I'm just saying it's silly to take a complete reverse and use that to argue your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:20 AM
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Black and white fallacy! 🤓🤓🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:04 AM
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I think it's more complicated than that because 1: I want people to be able to love themselves. I respect it when women can keep themselves happy without the constant need for male validation. 2: Healthy relationships should go through rough patches sometimes if you want to grow. You can't validate someone and make them feel super loved and happy all the time. This is the perfect recipe for cheating too. 3: People who don't have boundries deeply disturb me. They make it far too easy for someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:02 AM
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Assuming these things weren't genuine (I like some of these things, others I don't mind), well that would be concerning, wouldn't it? It signifies lots of insecurity of her part which creates and unequal relationships and will make her immensely more likely to cheat and look for validation elsewhere if she can't get it from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:45 AM
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Common commie W
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:44 AM
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I'm not blaming women, I'm just saying there's still things that are worth fighting for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:42 AM
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I'm not involved in MRA stuff, but if I had to guess: the amount of men who die in hard physical labour. Their rape (as children and as adults) being trivialized by both men and women. The increasing amount of boys who are struggeling in school, meaning they're getting less and less degrees. The amount of homeless men. The amount of men with trouble feelings their own emotions. The difficulty men have expressing their struggles without being treated like a joke by society at large, ect. Those ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:37 PM
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Yeah, I agree with that. On the other hand: you can't expect people to be perfect when speaking out against the struggles they're going through. What annoys me the most in this (and women do this too) is when people use their own struggles to invalidate those of the others. "Oh you have it bad? Well we have it worse so obviously we shouldn't listen to whatever you have to say." And I feel like a lot of MRA's (at least online) are doing that quite often. Sometimes it's used as an excuse to dismis…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:31 PM
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I've personally only seen the manosphere being an alternative, And I honestly doubt if they're really helping men in the long term. At least from my point of view, the problems men face aren't really being solved in the slightest. And let's be fair: people will mention women's struggles whenever men's struggles are mentioned, because we all want to feel heard to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:26 PM
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In this economy?!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:22 PM
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I've never seen people who are more cynical about the possibily of what men can be than internet warriors that claim to be MRA's. According to them men are lust machines without any restraint, without care for others and men getting in jail raped is funny to a decent amount of them. That being said: I understand why men mention their struggles whenever those of women are mentioned because they feel like they have a lot more trouble getting their voices to be heard. They don't have a progressive …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:17 PM
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People who don't get romantic, sexual or platonic intimacy will long for that kind of intimacy. That doesn't automatically mean they want on-demand sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:50 AM
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I'm not sure if it's helpful to be honest, but fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:49 AM
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I think it is, purely looking at IQ at least. A lot of the people here try to use their logic to solve things which are emotional issues. This is something smart people do all the fucking time and probably one of their biggest weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:48 AM
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Ah, don't let that stupid clickbait inform your opinions of women at large. I'm pretty sure that if you held a national poll, things would look quite different from Reddit. And this is about men they don't know. Humans are scarier and less predictable than a lot of animals. A woman in the woods would probably have a higher chance of murdering you than a bear too, assuming the bear doesn't have cubs or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:45 AM
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Obviously this place attracts a certain demographic of people. They're probably far more bitter, but also more intelligent than a lot of the people you'll meet in your day to day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:43 AM
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Obviously, but it's still fair for people who never get to experience that to long for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:41 AM
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Colonization was constantly justified by Christianity. We needed to convert those savages after all. And Hitler wasn't really Christian, he had his own weird occult stuff going on, yet most of his supporters were. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:38 AM
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Most of these men want intimacy though, you won't get that from prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:37 AM
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Wait, so why are women commiting suicide at an even higher rate then? Absolutely insane, don't they know they can just fuck chad and be happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:36 AM
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Yeah, it's not weird that people want >romantic< connections with people though. With the right person it allows for far more intimacy than most platonic friendships, that's part of what makes it special for people. Is it really entitlement to want a good life and complain when that doesn't happen? Isn't everyone entitled to happiness? Ofcourse you don't deserve to force anyone to love you, but wishing for it to happen and being frustrated when it doesn't seems completely logical to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:34 AM
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What the fuck? She never said anything about that, did she?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:33 AM
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Delusional, how many people did the Christian, Belgians, Germans, British and French murder during the colonisation of Africa? How many people died during the Irish or Bengal famine? How many people died during the genocide of Congo or the Herero-Name genocide? Also might I remind you that most Germans were Christians during worldwar II, yet they allowed Hitler to take power? Aside from what was done by secular vs religious regimes, remember that secularism wasn't used as a justification for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:30 AM
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Yeah, just blame his religion instead of adderessing his arguments, I'm sure that'll work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:28 AM
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He "earned" a woman? Looool. And you call us sexist :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:27 AM
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Stop trying to diagnose everyone who doesn't fit society ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:25 AM
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No, they don't complain so there's nothing wrong with them!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:25 AM
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Not neccesarily, what makes you say that? The kind of men you grew up with?...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:08 AM
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Well I'm not asking her to wear expensive makeup, am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:02 AM
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That sounds lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:01 AM
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So does she pay for the extra expensive clothes?...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:01 AM
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I guess you'll pay for my fancy clothes then, huh? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:00 AM
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You can be very attracted to someone without jumping into bed with them at the first moment. At least if you have a half-developed prefrontal cortex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:56 AM
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Entitled? Oh not at all. That would make me a rapist instead of someone who refuses to date certain people. Quite the opposite, I just think they're not entitled to me. Easy. In the end it comes down to different values. There's values I respect in a partner and others I don't. Promiscuity is one I don't respect. Ofcourse, that's not the only factor that comes into play. Humans are more complicated than that. And sometimes people change their views too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:58 AM
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Yasss queen!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:45 AM
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Ah shit, I deleted the comment because I misinterperted it. Overall it sounds quite disrespectful towards eachother's relationships though. Knowing that's what they're capable of, I don't think I could ever trust them fully from that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:44 AM
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Because you don't view it as a degree of attraction? I'd say many other people here would view it as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:41 AM
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Dude, you waited for her to break up and grew closer to her while she was in a relationship? Ewww brother ewww, what is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:36 AM
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It's not something I would respect, but your husband did. That's all that matters at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:34 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:32 AM
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Values: the regard that something is held to deserve; the importance, worth, or usefulness of something. You seem to frame it as something for religious or insecure people. I think it might just be different cultural values.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:29 AM
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I wouldn't put it like that, but it shows something about their personality, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:28 AM
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That would probably show you get attached to people far too easily and get into sex very easily too. Honestly, seems like trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:19 AM
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Or maybe some people just have different values than you? I'm not interested in casual sex, if anything that made me feel like a far bigger cuck. It feels transactional and cheap and honestly disgusts me. Honestly, I expect the same of a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:16 AM
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That's very much true, yet bonobos fuck around increasing their social status in the ground and manipulating men in the proces. There's not one answer to what human nature is. In animals it is found that the more sexually dimorphic species are, the more likely they are to not commit to their partners. Humans are relatively sexually dimorphic compared to a lot of birds for example. The shape of the human penis also suggests we fucked in groups. Then there's other things that suggest we're monogam…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:11 AM
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What would he reveal about himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:10 AM
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To put it crudely: you can abort the child. And most women who casually hook up don't care about finding a romantic relationship with guys who dislike that, or they assume they can just keep their past hidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:02 AM
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https://www.apa.org/moniTor/2013/02/ce-corner Here's a summary from the American Psychology Association.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:00 AM
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You can look it as a continious scale, rather than put people into categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:57 PM
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To put it simply: it depends on the kind of progressive they are. And the more economically left leaning they are, the more critical they are of "casual sex" as a concept. At least in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:56 PM
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They don't speak for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:51 PM
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You'd lie to your partner for the fun of it? You seem very mentally disturbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:51 PM
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As someone who's an atheist and has a very large penis, he doesn't speak for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:48 PM
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Why would you lie to your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:47 PM
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It depends right? But I feel like most "progressive" values in my country are that sexual restriction is just something that was imposed onto women by conservatives and that women should be able to have as much sex as they want without shame, to some degree it is even seen as "empowering" because you're going against traditional values. Ofcourse there are other progressives who would argue that this is stupid. Especially more far left leaning progressives would call it a consequence of human rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:46 PM
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I don't think they said that. Anyways, it probably reveals poor impulse control, progressive values, hormone levels and increases in the risk for STD's. That's what most glances at studies seem to suggest, but I've never dived that deeply into the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:40 PM
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??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:32 PM
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I'm not saying there's something wrong with the way your brain is wired, but if you want to fuck a lot of different people that probably has implications on the kind of person you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:32 PM
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True, but the argument that it won't affect you is silly because your past often says a lot about you as a person. It tells you something about the way your brain is wired. I'm not sure if I want to be with someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:29 PM
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Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:10 PM
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Childhood abuse is associated to the need for control or being controlled: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1158136021000888 Shitty as it might be, a lot of men and women were abused as children. This is interesting to me because it deconstructs the narrative that men are just horrible or whatever and shows more complex mechanisms are at play here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:00 PM
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Are you not that fit yourself so scared to get criticized?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:32 PM
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Lol, so you want strong muscular men who don't ever give you unsolicited advice because of your feelings? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:43 AM
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That's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:13 AM
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Or skinny, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:07 AM
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https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-adults-who-are-overweight?tab=chart&country=GBR 40% instead of 20% that are either underweight or of a healthy weight with an increasing trend towards more obesity. Doesn't seem like the UK is doing that much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:00 AM
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I hope you're not American lmao, because at this point that would mean you'd have to go for 20% of the population hahahahaha https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity That goes for both men and women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:22 AM
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I think everyone can get casual sex to be honest, it seems a whole lot easier than getting into an actual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:16 AM
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Nobody who wasn't abused wants to be a literal slave. He has issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:10 AM
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"Dominant switch femboy cuck" Shut the fuck up, shut up about all of it! AAAAAH!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:10 PM
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He honestly sounds a bit damaged in different way than most men, I don't think this counts for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:09 PM
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Probably, without mothers we'd have so few well-adjusted people in this world that we'd probably nuke ourselves within a few decades. I'm not sure why you're completely excluding birth and childhood from the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:23 PM
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Physical labour is part of being a human. I'm quite sure that getting pregnant is quite difficult too, we don't stop them from doing that. I'm sure they'd apperciate a bit of help, but you can't always be there to help them with every single thing that requires the slighest amount of strength or endurance. Honestly, it's probably healthier to do a bit of phyical labour every now and then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:20 PM
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Things don't really get cancelled that easily in real life, do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:19 PM
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Who cares about idiots on TV? I honestly wouldn't care if TV idiots said that about women either. That being said, hypocrites do exist. I'm going to speak out for both men and women regardless of them though, I'm not going to give up my ideals just because male activists sometimes laugh at the idea of men getting raped or because of spiteful women like these.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:17 PM
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Wasn't a male golddigger the whole premise of Parasite?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:15 PM
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And how is what you've explained any different from female golddiggers? On another matter: if I ever become rich I'll happily marry a poor woman. I have no need to show off my wealth, so I really don't think golddiggers would find me interesting in the first place. I honestly think a lot of "high class" women are quite annoying and obsessed with status, I'm not going to limit myself to just them. If a rich woman likes me for my money, how is that any less transactional than a poor woman doing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:12 PM
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Yeah, why would I marry a woman who can't survive the jungle? Smh. I have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:13 PM
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Some women on his field trip had period cramps and frostbite, so obviously women should marry the first man they encounter. We all know that men can't get frostbite, because men are famously better isolated against the cold than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:11 PM
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I can't tell if you're being ironic or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:08 PM
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I would probably be somewhat put off by her not respecting her boundries from the start. That's not a good basis for a relationship. Also, anal sex doesn't sound like something to envy in the first place, so I personally couldn't be bothered less about that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:27 AM
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Obviously, I don't know how people are expected to make any friends or get into relationships otherwise. This sub confuses me sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:24 AM
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YESSSS! YEAAAAH CANNIBALISM WHOOO!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:22 PM
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Literally delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:21 PM
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Cannibalism my beloved :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:21 PM
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Going alone in the forest with soemone removes all ability to get help. When humans aren't inhibited by social norms they can become far more dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:09 PM
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I think that has more to do with aggressive tendencies, right? Obviously they can hurt you more, but by the simple fact that men get abused by women too, it seems that a lot more than just physical strength comes into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:08 PM
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Some people are attracted to toxic traits too. That's still relevant. There's plenty of men and women who are willing to look past abuse if it means they need for being "loved" is fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:04 PM
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This sounds incredibily paranoid. You don't seem have trust in your own ability to vet genuinely good people either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:02 PM
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The point is that this is a risk you're going to have to take if you want to date. Men will have to take the risk she won't kill the children. But the chance of a child getting murdered by their mother is a lot lower than getting assaulted by a man, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:00 PM
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Genuine question, why would they be less dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:58 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:57 AM
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Using statistics for individuals doesn't always work. A lot of women just suck at seeking out genuinely good people. If you don't have that problem, the trust you build will probably be a lot more genuine and justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:56 AM
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That's because you get exposed to them a lot more. But you're still able to vet them a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:53 AM
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I'm not saying all of them are poor and desperate. I'm saying that's the only moment at which people really have a problem with it. I don't see all these western women who are criticizing people who date overseas, especially not when it's on somewhat equal terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:33 AM
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It's silly to compare a rich city with an entire country. Stop twisting statistics and then calling me ignorant. You're not only making this far more personal than needed, according to 10 seconds of googeling you'd be completely wrong too: "Thailand is the second-largest economy in Southeast Asia, after Indonesia. Its per capita GDP 247,828 baht (US$7,069)" (...) "In 2022, the GDP per capita in Spain was around 29,799 U.S. dollars." And I don't see all these women raging about men dating foreign…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:27 AM
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Dude, do y'all nigga's ever talk to real life people? Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:13 AM
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Yeah, let's be honest: a lot of these countries have a looot of poverty. You can call me racist or whatever, but Thailand isn't nearly as rich as western countries are. And I'm not seeing all these people who are angry about men that don't specifically seek out poor women. If you want to date abroad, go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:13 AM
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I don't see it. Most of the times people just don't like it when someone specifically seeks out women in poverty that are desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:57 PM
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What if most men don't follow women in the first place? Most simps are men, but most men aren't simps, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:35 PM
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Would this be a crude, but true translation of what you said? "Asian women still want you for your money, but at least they'll be submissive and show respect?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:22 PM
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I don't have instagram so I didn't know they were that popular, but there's 2 billion people on social media, if only a small subset of men followed these models they would still be considered extremely popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:20 PM
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Hahahaha, I love how your flair is literally just: "Communist." Fucking radical man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:08 PM
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HAhaha a feminist on reddit saying: "Not all men"? This feels like it's opposite day. But yeah, anecdotally I've known lots of people with a healthy weight that I didn't want to have sex with because: There's a lot more that comes into play when talking about attraction. Physical, but also mentally. I'm risk adverse af, I'm not looking to get emotionally tied down to someone I don't love, get a disease or even worse become a parent without being ready for it. I'm a little bit conservative and a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:05 PM
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I don't think men do that, that honestly sounds kind of pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:55 PM
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Two questions: First, why do you think women in the West don't value intelligence? Secondly: why do you think these East Asian women couldn't like these guys over their money too? Especially since they're more likely to live in poverty in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:49 PM
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Imagine being on an island with a some guy who ends up wanting to fuck you after being stuck without other people for 3 months. Jesus Christ, have mercy. I'll pick the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:39 PM
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I'm not sure if I'd classify it as a "type", but there's certainly things I find attractive and things I don't. Does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:35 PM
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I think the point is that they can't really know what kind of person you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:28 PM
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Why would I do that? If anything, I'd probably rather resent other women for not liking me before that point. No wonder y'all nigga's sound so miserable all the time, you keep assumming the worst of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:04 AM
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They can't know that. I know it's hard, but please don't take it personally. And don't be afraid that you're an "oppressor", society isn't fair and some people are higher in social status than others. That's just how life is. If it bothers you though, try to learn a bit about it, talk to some feminists, disagree when you want to disagree, but keep an open mind. That's probably the best way to learn. Don't feel too guilty though. And don't expect to be celebrated over your intelligence or "wokene…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:52 PM
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Idk if you read my last edit, but I honestly think those things are pretty universal between cultures. Women will always be at a higher risk of having sex than men. And to be fair: a lot of cultures have become Westernized, so that might play a role too, although I genuinely wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:22 PM
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It's not really an "accomplishment" eh? Even if some women believe it to be. Honestly kind of sad we view eachother as ways to lift up our feeling about ourselves and status in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:21 PM
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Oh, that's fair. I should have reacted to your premise a bit more. Honestly, I'll think about it some more when I have more time, but if I had to guess it's because we as a society love men who "conquer", it's seen as a but we don't really view women having sex as something of high status. Women having sex historically got them in a lot more trouble than men, I think that probably has something to do with it. Pregnancy was a huge risk and without parternity tests she couldn't prove jackshit abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:16 PM
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I really like sharing values with someone when it comes to relationships. I hold myself to the same ones. In the end the number doesn't matter, but it is an indicator, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:12 PM
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Idk dude, it's not about power for me. I'm just a jealous nigga.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:11 PM
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I don't know what the men here believe, I honestly don't care because honestly I think they're dumbasses. As for your comment: "I let everyone bf I had do increasingly more stuff I didn't like." sounds sad to me. Isn't it somewhat disrespectful to your own wishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:26 PM
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That sounds incredibily sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:57 PM
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You want to be held, but the best thing you can opt for is getting choked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:04 PM
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That sounds kind of sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:32 AM
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In that case: are you truly feminist deep down then? Or is it just your rational mind that's feminist while your deeper beliefs are still deeply ingrained within you? If that's truly lifelong, I truly hope the new generation will have a better time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:04 AM
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Although things might have changed in the last few years, generally speaking most women don't really seem to like this that much: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1743609521005312#tbl0002
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:01 AM
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I think there's a large difference between who we are and the way in which we present ourselves. What you said might very well be true though, I genuinely don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:58 AM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1743609521005312 This study shows that women and men both have fantasies about getting raped (around 40% of them at least), but men had more fantasies about being a rapist than women. As for the abstract of the results: "All participants reported non-aggression-related sexual fantasies and 77% reported at least one ASF in their lives. Being male, frequent sexual fantasies, psychopathic traits, and negative attitudes towards sexual fantasies pred…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:57 AM
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It's heavily associated with mental illness from a scientific POV. There's no denying that. It might not be the reason for you, but this association has been observed again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:37 AM
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So, either you're ashamed over your sexuality (not very feminist) or you're an adrenaline junkie that standardly opts for a submissive position? Neither sounds that feminist. It's easy to virtue signal, it's a lot harder to live your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:35 AM
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Or maybe the most submissive people are the most ashamed over it and try to boost by acting tough externally? Most truly confident people don't need to pretend to be a "boss".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:30 AM
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They're not saying everyone who likes this is a psycho, they say psycho's on average are more likely to be into power dynamics, including "breath play" or "asphyxiation" depending on how generous to you want to describe it. There's a study that does support this statement: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1743609521005312#tbl0002
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:28 AM
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It shows that deep down you still crave these power dynamics, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:12 AM
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Most older people I've talked to are shocked at the idea. Younger people in my surroundings are more likely to view it as a normal thing you do during sex. I think internet pornography played a large role in this one. Also, wouldn't be suprised if the declining mental health has something to with it too. People that suffered from childhood abuse are much more likely to be into sadistic or masochistic dynamics. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1158136021000888
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:59 PM
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No, but if someone said: "I thought you said men didn't like makeup, now they do? They just can't make up their mind." I'd say: "Yeah no shit, we're talking about different people here."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:56 PM
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Men aren't all the same either, if we were I'd feel ashamed over seeing all the cringelords on this subreddit and beyond.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:45 PM
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Almost like different people want different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:37 PM
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Not interested. Not looking to be someone's "daddy", what the fuck is wrong with y'all niggas?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:10 PM
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Sounds like you're in the 1/10. Good for you. According to your profile you won't date women older than 24 though, are you sure you're as developed mentally as you believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:48 PM
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9/10 times fuckboys are hedonists that are unable to keep up a relationship with people in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:41 PM
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Different cultures view fatness differently, I've also seen a study that showed how men in the West prefer women >below< healthy weight. To me this suggests that culture does matter in attraction, although biology obiviously plays an incredibily important role too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:39 PM
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That's what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:25 PM
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*Kid gets groomed "Oh my god guys, this is just like a telenovela!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:55 PM
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Honestly this sounds nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:23 PM
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You posted multiple comments, including how find it difficult to emphatize with women because of the "control" they hold over dating. But you just want to fuck them, you don't want to date, do you? So why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:38 AM
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God, sometimes this sub is so pathetic. And you're blaming them for "mate selection" and not wanting to be with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:29 AM
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I might be dense and completely skipping over a joke here, but going on a date because someone pities you isn't really a happy outcome, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:05 AM
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You're literally showing off your boobs, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:59 PM
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How come?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:18 PM
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Solidarity in pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:31 PM
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I'm not sure how much that applies or not, but the mate selection of some animal species works like that. It's called the sexy son hypothesis. However, it might not actually apply to humans: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347208003928
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:19 PM
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What?.... "strange pussy" what are you yapping about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:07 PM
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Who's bored enough to pat down their wife before letting them go to the toilet?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:23 PM
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It's really nice when someone wants to contribute though, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:42 PM
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Absolutely sick. What kind of shitty people will flirt with others just to "test" their partner? What kind of person can't even trust their partner with their own phone? I want a partner, dammit not a child I feel like I have to control at every moment. None of the more traditional women will put up with this either. You're only going to attract people with incredible mental problems this way, and you'd be exploiting them because you feel you need to control everything at all times. Actually be …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:38 PM
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Yeah yeah sure, just say: "That's how boys are" instead of fixing your relationship. I'm sure that'll make people happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:14 AM
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Yes, I do think women have it easier on average too, but having to do nothing? That only happens with this subset of men. And down the line, it doesn't really make for happier relationships. Some things are easier for women because they're sexually desired, some things are harder - like sexual assault and being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:12 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:07 AM
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This isn't about fault, but either she accepts she's never going to be satisfied by him, or she can give it another chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:46 AM
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Actually push for change instead of just determaining this is a gender difference or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:18 PM
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Being rich doesn't increase the risk of getting raped. And unless you're willing to whore yourself out, being sexually appealing doesn't buy you a house either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:12 PM
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No, it doesn't make me a cuck, it makes me a cool Wolf that's chasing my prey, raaawr I am so cool and totally not a simp. I am a conquerer!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:10 PM
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For whatever reason, they didn't think the other factors you mentioned really apply. Or she didn't read the whole post, I don't know. Either way I personally don't see it increasing the ease of getting into a happy relationships. Most incredibily horny men aren't really able or interested in building a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:04 PM
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Same with men here complaining about porn and the women engaged in that industry: stop watching porn if you really think it's that bad for both you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:54 PM
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Well maybe those women enjoyed playing with you. Most women I know don't like manipulating men though. I guess it really depends on the people you interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:52 PM
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You could literally say this to anyone who doesn't agree with you. This is the weakest and laziest debate tactic I've in a while. They literally told you >why< it's not as big of an advantage from their POV: they don't think getting someone to fuck you at any time is really that nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:49 PM
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Men and women on this sub are really like that metaphor about the dying man in the desert and the drowning woman in lake. If they would encounter eachother seconds before they died they'd be shocked to find that the other person is complaining about a lack of water, while the other one is complaining about an excess of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:47 PM
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They can try to fix it and communicate. But it doesn't seem like he wants to listen. Honestly kind of sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:25 PM
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Yeah and most men grow up watching porn too. Plenty of men might see sex as purely PIV, but far from every man will just shrug off the wishes of their partner, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:21 PM
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"Look at porn, (...)" Sorry, but this has got to be the most stupid way of gauging actual sexual interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:17 PM
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On average? Men probably. Men don't like being controlled because people tell them they're supposed to be leaders. Being in the "controlling" role isn't neccesarily that mentally healthy either though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:20 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B5H0AmsJpk&ab_channel=JREG
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 02:43 PM
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Illustrative social commentary if done right. Rather than just pretending to be this person, I think it might be worth it to explain why they think people say these things. That kind of explicit art with an explicit message is why I like Jreg so much. https://youtu.be/MwuBUmlz5VA?si=nwspbtJXorIzmVls
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:55 AM
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Jesus Christ, sometimes I think y'all never talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:40 AM
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I think that getting into a relationship that's unhappy will end up making you even lonelier.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:44 PM
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Real hunger is when you have no options it's not by choice. (The choice is to either not eat for a while or to eat food that doesn't nurish you and ends up making you feel even more hungry in the long term.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:35 PM
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Sometimes that's even lonelier. I know plenty of attractive women who can't make friends with guys even though they really want to, because the guy will often end up falling for them. We can never truly know what it's like to be in both positions (unless someone's transgender maybe), so let's not judge eachother too harshly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:43 PM
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Yarg. I mean, all women are like that one specific woman they happen to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:40 PM
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I'm not saying they shouldn't feel this way, I'm just curious because videogames are generally made to make you feel competent. And if it's really mindset, does thinking you're absolutely fucking great have any impact?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 09:40 AM
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She's saying showing up doesn't guarantee a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:54 AM
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No ratio, just emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:18 AM
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Isn't that what you implied with the "#metoo will come for you next."?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:17 AM
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If that's true, I wonder how that affects gamers who feel like they're on top of the fucking world, or if being delusional about your "status" would affect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:15 AM
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Alright, fair enough. I won't inquire further, I'm really curious if it's confidence or something else, but sometimes we just like what we like and don't know why exactly, we just do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:21 PM
3

That seems nice honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:14 PM
5

Alright, that's fair. I think there's a difference between not being outright flirty with everyone you find remotely attractive and not being shy though. I personally prefer getting to know someone a little before showing interest, because I want it to be genuine. I'm not remotely shy though. That being said, I'm not saying it doesn't work, I just trying to understand. It honestly just seems like you like flirty men, which is fine too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:13 PM
5

Aren't there plenty of guys who aren't shy, but aren't outright flirty either? I'm curious, because if you need that kickstart, without them really knowing you, they'd almost have to be flirty with anyone they found attractive at first sight, right? I don't think it's a bad thing, but I'm honestly wondering why you think that is and if it doesn't filter out far more people rather than just shy ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:09 PM
1

Huh, alright then. That's quite interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:01 PM
2

Maybe not. I think I could hit far harder, but when it comes to wrestling? No, I simply too skinny. If I worked out for a few months I'd agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:01 PM
1

Oh, this seems like a fun topic. I'm not really flirty I think, although I love teasing people and prodding them a bit. I've never really liked flirting in the way most people do. It seems rather fake to me, because it takes a while for feeling to develop and I don't want to fake attraction beforehand. That just seems shitty, I've (rarely) had girls like me without me liking them and that's not something I want to encourage by making it seem that I'm interested in them unfairly. Either it's an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:58 PM
3

"The Nice big man with muscles can keep away the Nasty big man with muscles away. Safety. Yaaay." At least that goes through the minds of some women. I've also known women who didn't feel this way. Both mindsets make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:40 PM
2

Keeping yourself from being as strong as you want to be because of women? Why wouldn't it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:39 PM
2

Thanks, although I'm quite sure it's my genetics, rather than testosterone levels. I've had incredibily strong parents and grandparents, but they were all quite skinny too. As well as the fact that I don't experience any other symptoms. I'll see how exercising works out for me though. A bigger beard would be nice at least :P
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:38 PM
2

Yeah, that's fair. I still wanted to check because although it doesn't make sense in a biological sense, some part of me still manages to worry myself. Can't hurt to exercise more either way, but yeah, this "MORE TESTOSTERONE = MORE CHAD" thing is a bit silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:34 PM
1

Yeah, that makes sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:29 PM
1

I could, but I honestly don't know what I would do with that knowledge. I'm not letting my beloved balls shrink by injecting testosterone at the very least. As long as my dick works and my beard grows well I'm happy. Anyways, I don't do any physical exercise and when I do I tend to gain fast, so I think I'm good. Apart from my incredibile inability to keep at a routine that is. Anyways, who knows? Only two ways to find out, getting a doctor or exercising and actually keeping at it. I'll probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:27 PM
2

I'm good at appearing non-threatening. I've got a very "child-like" and friendly additude to me most of the time, I think that does more for my non-threatening appearence than my lack of muscles. I'll get back to you on that though, if I can actually manage to push myself through some exercises. To me it sounds like cope to make having very few muscles sound like something good, but I might be mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:25 PM
2

Our biology is a bit more complicated than that. I've got plenty of body hair, no erectile problems, depressive symptoms or obesity, but the muscles in my arms are thinner than breadsticks. Biology is an incredibily complicated field. Hormones are just one part of the puzzle. In my case it's mostly my total lack of movement, but whenever I do move I build muscle fast because being a man still gives you that little testosterone boost. To my knowledge, testosterone makes you muscles restore a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:21 PM
3

I'm not sure if that means we have it easier than women. I mean, I'm happy that unlike most of the women in my family and friends, I've never gotten sexually harrased. That's one thing at least, but maybe I was just lucky in that sense, since I'm hearing more and more stories of men who've gone through something like that. I genuinely think I prefer being a man, but idk I might have felt the same way if I had been born a woman. It's not because of the different in physical strength though, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:18 PM
7

I'll get back to you on this, but I don't think it's muscles that's preventing guys from befriending women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:14 PM
1

I don't think being physically weak neccesarily says something about your Testosterone levels, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:12 PM
2

No, honestly. I'm already physically weak and I don't think being more comforting helps that much. It can be nice for people to trust you earlier maybe, but physical strength has so much more benefits. Being able to do physical labour and being able to protect yourself and others to a greater degree, while also looking cool all seem like pretty great benefits to me. And I think I come across as pretty non-threatening anyways. Having big muscles wouldn't make me intimidating, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:05 PM
2

Yeah, that's understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:04 PM
0

What? Have you ever interacted with women in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:57 PM
0

Honestly, looking at the reaction here, I can kind of understand where you're coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:54 PM
3

Would 4B also imply that you wouldn't go out with friends you might develop feelings for? Because that honestly seems kind of silly. If you already know them to be a nice person and you can skip the "selecting through horrible people during dating proces", wouldn't that work great too?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:48 PM
2

And I'm going to be a pedantic dick here: but what's the punishment? A lack of sex? Wouldn't that mean you view sex as something women give to men? Idk if that's your view, but if that's your view it would make sense that from your POV relationships would seem like a kind of sad thing. I'd go MGTOW too if I believed sex to be purely about satisfying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:45 PM
2

Yeah, I think everyone is going to be affected by it either way. 4B or no 4B, the relationship between men and women has 100% been damaged. I'm personally just not sure if it's great to completely dismiss yourself from relationships because of the possibility of getting hurt, but maybe I don't understand women's perspective there. I don't think trying to punish men will work, but taking is break from dating can be absolutely great. It gave me some peace to figure myself out at least and kept me …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:41 PM
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South Koreans are incredibily overworked. Ofcourse nobody is getting children. Same with Japan. Why do you assume it's because of 4B? You're completely ignoring the broader context.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:37 PM
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Correlation is not the same as causation. South Korea is an incredibily overworked society like Japan and China. The birthrate plummeted in those countries too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:36 PM
2

Collective punishment is a war crime. You really want to break the geneva convention over this? No, but seriously, why do you think it's punishment? Both camps will just end up missing the potential of happy relationships and heartbreak. It seems like a rather scared and avoidant way to live, rather than a punishment really. It can be good to take a break, but I don't see why you have to cut that part off yourself off for the sake of punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:35 PM
1

Brb, turning myself lesbian by drinking frog water
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:33 PM
6

I honestly don't think it's this simple, because most sex crimes being done by men doesn't mean most men are criminals. Even when assuming most men suck at boundries, it would still be somewhat silly, because you're generalizing men, instead of just looking at it on a case by case basis. Aside from all the awful things that happen, there's plenty of kind men and women who match very well with eachother. I think both women and men will end up happier when they don't discount healthy relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:28 PM
7

It's not "punishment" though, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:27 PM
8

Online. Not in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:27 PM
1

What this society considers to be "confidence" is mostly just arrogance to be honest.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 09:14 PM
2

Mhm, I'm just not sure if that will imply polygamy though, to my knowledge most women really like the 1 on 1 connection with their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:40 PM
2

From my own experience, I honestly doubt it. I'll say things are definitely quite rough for men though. It's not easy to find a kindhearted partner you connect well with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:39 PM
3

Idk what kind of progressive people you're talking with, but most progressives in my country still like monogamy. And society won't neccesarily become more progressive either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:58 PM
5

Is that so? I honestly doubt that only 10% of men are liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:56 PM
3

I doubt it, most people that I know with poly parents, absolutely hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:53 PM
9

I don't think being interested in people makes you a part of someone's harem, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:52 PM
2

Wow, so progressive!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:17 PM
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So, does this apply to humans too? Birds are incredibily far away from us evolutionarily speaking. Sometimes you have converging evolution, but I wouldn't say this is a very strong indicator yet. That being said: we all know Gorilla's with the silverbacks, right? And we know it might apply to our closest evolutionarily relative too. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15645461/ Although this seems to be correlation, which isn't neccesarily indicative of causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:34 PM
1

Yeah, I'm sure that agents have the best interests of her in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:29 PM
1

I'm not saying young adults are pure and idealistic, nor did I say that older people are manipulative. Why do you dislike casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:26 PM
1

Being a libertarian doesn't mean you can't think things are bad, it means you don't want to involve the government, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:25 PM
2

Jesus Christ, may God forgive us all. At least she's 30, but that sounds sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:07 PM
0

Does she really benefit from that fame? It's not like she's old enough to understand what that means anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:06 PM
2

You allowed to hold opinions. No need to automatically take this "liberal": "I don't care if someone harms themselves, as long as there's consent." approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:05 PM
3

How prudish! You're telling me that having sex with someone who's young, hoping they don't get attached and dumping them whenever they do get emotionally attached is unethical in some way, shape or form?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:02 PM
2

Yeah, I think there's a difference in that, that's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:59 PM
6

Oh, never mind. I should have added: "if you were 30."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:19 PM
2

I don't see what's weaponizing about it. I'm a guy and I would feel that way too. I don't care if that makes me better or worse, I'm just saying what I'd do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:13 PM
2

Yeah, being skinny can really suck in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:12 PM
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Sexually, but not mentally mature. That part matters too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:10 PM
4

If I think: "Ah, they seem a lot less experienced in life and they didn't have chance to grow into their own person yet." yeah, I would probably not date them. I think that's more respectful of them and more morally sound. I don't see the problem with that. Now to be fair: I do think a lot of women overesitmate their own maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:00 PM
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If I was 30? I might honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:41 PM
4

Understanding eachother and being your own person are both easier when you at least have some basis in life experience. And our brains keep maturing for a while after we're 18 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:40 PM
8

So you don't care about chasing someone who's a lot younger than you, right? Seems like these women seem to care more about that aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:32 PM
12

They haven't figured themselves out as much as someone who's a bit older. They have little life experience and a underdeveloped brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:25 PM
1

Wouldn't you feel creepy for chasing after 18 year old girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:24 PM
25

I'm not seeing women being that much more mature to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:23 PM
9

The disrespect, tsk
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:23 PM
3

Good, I don't want a woman to be with me because she's after my money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:20 PM
7

Y'all are making women (or at least their genitals) far more important to your life than needed. Learn to be happy by yourself or it'll seep into your relationships and pressure them when they happen to not feel like it as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:49 PM
3

Maybe look up some other positions where women are more active? + Foreplay is a thing, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:47 PM
5

Didn't you hear, being happy by yourself and not needing a woman to validate your big man feelings makes you cuck :P
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:46 PM
2

Damn, this subreddit is full of hoes :P
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:42 PM
1

Yeah, a healthy upbringing in this regard is relatively rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:41 PM
1

You can a lot of sexual urges without immediately fucking it. You have a brain besides your hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:40 PM
3

Yeah, that makes sense. I was mostly just messing around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:39 PM
3

I mean, you literally just replied to someone who believed the G-spot exists, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:09 AM
3

Yeah, I'm honestly baffled too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:07 AM
6

Besides, a long penis can be very awful for other women. It's not about either being good or bad, it's about compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:05 AM
3

10% of the effort? Aren't most women a little more enthousiastic and involved than that? Maybe we should put oxygen and heart monitors on men and women during sex and test your hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:21 PM
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Have you ever talked to a feminist woman? Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:18 PM
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I feel like I might hang in a very progressive environment or whatever, but most guys I know would like getting a little card, food or a massage too, none of which they'd consider to be an attack to their masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:17 PM
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Honestly, I don't see why it has to be this complicated. I'm "romantic" because I want to show affection. Why can't women enjoy sex? They have a clitoris with many more nerves than the head of a penis, and the bonding from sex affects both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:03 PM
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Fair, but everyone offers that, right? Sometimes getting something extra like a little gift can be really nice for the receiving person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:02 PM
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I never said that you're sexist. I said that this isn't something I could reasonabily know, for all I know you're completely right when talking about the women you've interacted with in your life. I'm not interested of accusing you of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:00 PM
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Firstly, I love arguing online, so that's why. Secondly, cooking for women isn't seen as oppression where I'm from. I'm not sure which studies you're talking about, honestly. In my experience women do support their partners. And men are expected to compliment women, sure: but women still do it. In my experience women give plenty of gifts and show plenty of affection towards the people they love. Maybe you've just hung around a different crowd?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:57 PM
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I'm not sure if it's sexism, you might just not have many loving women in your life yet. The world has a lot of shitty people, it's totally possible. And yes, to be rational you should be aware of your own emotional state. Our emotions and logical minds are not seperate. That's makes sense, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:53 PM
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They cook sometimes, give gifts, massages, kisses, give emotional support, encourage you. It really depends on the person ofcourse, but these are things most women I know do. Most "romance" is just a way to show affection right? Plenty of women show affection in plenty of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:49 PM
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Nobody lives without bias. If you want to be rational that's the first thing you're going to have to realize. Many people have given you logical answers, even if you don't agree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:47 PM
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You're biased yourself. Don't make yourself believe you're more rational than others, that's silly. Anyways, consuming romance content does it likely you care more about romance. It's just that this doesn't automatically translate into being a good giver. Although many women I know are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:44 PM
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Everyone is forced to put in a little bit of effort in their relationship, right? I don't see women being excluded from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:43 PM
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Women I know are affectionate by giving gifts on birthdays or otherwise, making food for their partners sometimes or by hugging or massaging them. They give encouraging words, they give kisses, emotional support and attention. Those are all quite "romantic" from my POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:41 PM
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I don't get it. I genuinely don't. Most women I know get little gifts for their partners and try showing affection in a lot of ways. I don't get where you're getting this "princess" treatment thing from. Did you get that from people online, or do you just happen to know very different kinds of women than me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:38 PM
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That hasn't been my experience, maybe I happen to know more "modern" women, who don't care about gender roles as much?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:34 PM
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What are you on about? What makes you think women don't show affection?...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:33 PM
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Never gotten gifts from a lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:32 PM
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In my experience, women like giving gifts a lot. I think men are great in a lot of ways too, but I don't think I know many men who brought along self-made food or cookies. Or that got you little cards, in my experience that's mostly been women. Now, I do think that men offer a lot to their partner and families too, that's not my point, but little romantic or thoughtful gestures, most women that I know love making those.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:30 PM
1

So women changed instead of men. All serious relationship mf's must be seething right now. "It could have been the other way around."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:27 PM
1

Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:12 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:07 PM
2

If that's true, that's actually insane to me. I genuinely hope you're talking out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:58 PM
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You know you're allowed to say: "No" to sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:53 PM
10

I don't understand dating, but purely logically: why can't you be happier with someone, without being reliant on them for a decent life? Those two statements aren't contradictory, right? Sounds like she wants a life with you to be better than a life without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:02 PM
5

Hahahaha, well fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:38 PM
0

PPD moment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:32 PM
4

I'd feel predatory for dating a woman a lot younger than me, even if it was legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:32 PM
2

I don't think I'm neccesarily that attractive, but I feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:28 PM
0

I don't get it. How would you know if they were desireable or not? By the reaction of other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 12:50 PM
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How can one know if they're in a position to have sex or not when they never make the effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:13 AM
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This world is full of mentally ill people, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:49 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:31 PM
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Either way, it probably won't convince redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:27 PM
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I think you'd reaffirm red pill beliefs with this one dude, you're not unattractive in the slightest and are in real estate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:18 PM
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I'm not interested in that. As my confidence improved it became incredibily unappealing to me. I think some other men here aren't interested in hookups either, but that might be me projecting my own views on the others - I don't know. What I do know though is that the men you're talking for whatever reason don't seem to agree that it's as easy as you're claiming. So something's up, right? Maybe it isn't quite as easy as you're saying it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:15 PM
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For whatever reason, that's not happening with some of the guys here, or they're not interested in sleeping around and are looking for a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:09 PM
3

I feel less pressured, because I don't feel like I have to decide before wasting lots of people's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:06 PM
3

My brain can't handle that. It makes me incredibily miserable and feel like I have to constantly "compare" my options. It has taken away any resemblence of an actual connection. I prefer mono-dating over poly-dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:03 PM
0

No? But hitting them when they hit you is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:57 PM
0

Either way, women aren't dogs. They can be held much more accoutable for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:13 PM
0

I don't see any reason to hit someone with more force than neccesary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:10 PM
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You need to defend yourself, no? You might have provoked it in some way, but in the end you don't want to end up dead or heavily injured.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:09 PM
4

Many women are. As are many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:59 AM
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Nice post, suprisingly positive for this shitstorm of a subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:32 AM
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A gynocentric world huh? So what is the redpill about again?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:26 AM
0

Look and behold: the manwhore!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:12 AM
4

Porn appeals to neither gender. They prey on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:12 AM
10

I'm literally going insane guys!!! AAAAAAH! I've been 3 minutes with porn already, someone bring me a blanket and some lube. *falls the the ground pathetically
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:10 AM
8

And no man would pay to jerk off to it if women collectively agreed to not distribute that shit anymore. And let's not pretend OF isn't advertised everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:55 PM
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What? Noooo, isn't that what friends are for? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:40 PM
12

Onlyfans is not just created by demand, it's also created because of supply and advertising. I don't really blame women, but it's their choice at the end of the day. Also, women aren't forced to sleep with just few men (assuming this is even true), that choice is on them. Simping? Sometimes women have a hand in that too by flirting with lonely men. These are complex mechanisms, you can't just blame one gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:35 PM
7

You don't even counter the points.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:18 PM
4

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:17 PM
5

Red pillers are silly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:56 PM
1

Honestly, idk if it's a picking out of your league problem, the people I'm talking about would often be considered more attractive than the people they date. Do they have issues? Oh yeah, totally. I know very few people who don't have some honestly, especially when they're younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:26 PM
7

I've met incredibily attractive women and they've had trouble dating too. It's easy to find people who want to sleep with you or date you, but to connect on a deeper level? That's suprisingly difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:18 PM
2

Why do you think that is? And should it be that suprising for it to take a few years to find someone you connect well with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:15 PM
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Marriage is just a fancy term, no? Yes, I would, but I wouldn't spend it on extravagent travelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:02 PM
1

Average commie fail:
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:42 PM
3

I would want to share what I have, not go on fancy trips waving my girlfriend goodbye. If you don't mind that, that's cool too. I'd rather spend some time with them and save up some more money so we could go together if they wanted to come along. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they just wanted to go themselves if they preferred going alone, but if it was about the money I'd worry a bit about our future.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:07 PM
1

Whoops
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:06 PM
6

Yeah, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:38 PM
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If they're really poor they'll have a good chance of having to become a prostitute for the rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:16 PM
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What? I've loved people before, I didn't need a promise of sex to care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:46 PM
3

So both of you just generalize the other gender are make yourselves miserable in the proces?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:29 PM
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I think we're a bit fixed on status in this society, height is often a part of that. Weight too, there's studies showing that on average men like underweight women, not healthy weight or overweight women. That seems rather silly to me too, it's not even about health at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:15 PM
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I'd start caring for them far earlier than marriage. Marriage wouldn't make that much of a difference to me. I think I'd have trouble understanding her perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:11 PM
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I don't see why them having sex matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:10 PM
2

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:52 PM
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Honestly not interested in a bourgeoisie woman, especially not when they're keeping all their stuff to themselves. I would feel far more inclined to share with my partner, I'd hope they'd feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:49 PM
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I'm just saying: they were being rejected before they became "entitled." That's not their problem. The problem is that they're not attractive for whatever reason - and sometimes those reasons are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:01 PM
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Yeah, you don't have any nuance in your worldview. You've obviously just copied internet arguments about "nice guys."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:13 PM
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Yeah, but these people were often rejected before they started feeling entitled, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:50 AM
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Not all 4 billion women do this, but I can question why the ones that do, do it. And I'm not uncritical of men's behavior either. You're unneccesarily making this into a gender war thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:34 AM
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It doesn't bug me. I think height preferences are a bit silly, but that it honestly. I'm just saying that short men do get the shorter end of the stick for something they can't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:11 AM
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Why aren't people allowed to feel sad over it? And ofcourse the internet only shows guys who are only "nice" to get in someone's pants, OP isn't neccesarily talking about those men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:02 AM
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You can still question someone's choices, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:58 AM
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They're not saying it's right because chat gpt said so, they're saying they used chatgpt to explain their point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:40 AM
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Seems like a rather simplistic worldview, because you don't think their shortness is the problem, some people just conclude they must be an awful human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:37 AM
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I think it's indeed unfair to expect anyone to be attracted to a fake persona of "niceness", but sometimes genuinely kind people are rejected over and over and over again. And some of them might develop a sadness or bitterness because of it. Saying: "Oh you probably weren't that kind in the first place." misses the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:18 AM
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I've seen "your height isn't the reason we won't sleep with you, it's probably your awful personality", whenever someone expresses their grief over the lack of dating oppertunities one might have has been repeated on this site quite frequently. I think that's not something women believe IRL though, seems mostly like an internet thing. And I do think that this "high risk taking behavior" is often wrongly seen as confidence, by lots of young women (and men too).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:45 AM
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Autism is a large factor in inceldom, sure. I'm not sure where you got the idea from that OP said women can't like people who are "good" though. Honestly despite that, I think some people find "goodness" to be boring. Some people care a lot about status, being genuinely kind doesn't neccesarily help to elevate that, right? And in my experience the people who care a lot about whatever their friends will think of them are quite high.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:22 AM
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I don't know. Nothing is known about them apart from these little bits you've given us. Introverted can mean a lot of things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:48 PM
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I'm not a redpiller, but the first one seems much more able to live life. Ofcourse life's more complicated than that and not every woman is the same, but if I was one I'd probably feel very out of place in a "wealthy" environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:24 PM
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Depends on the person, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:07 PM
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"Guys, what if I walked to a random woman and said: "Nice boobies, mind if I give them a lick" Then you walk away. Do you think this is a good strategy or does it still need some work?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:08 PM
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Backstories help us to understand the origin of things. Understanding that can help us work towards something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:48 PM
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She viewed his shortness as a part of how young he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:46 PM
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Doesn't seem healthy to hang onto that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:45 PM
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I know right? I might be "good" or whatever, but I'm not pathetic enough to grovel for a woman who doesn't find me attractive because I didn't sleep with tons of women in my past as "practice".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:13 PM
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Yeah, good luck finding your bourgeois woman. I'm sure her having a high social status will end up making you really happy. Or not, I guess you'll find out what works for you. Anyways: you're right in my opinion about these "Guru's" chasing OF models though, it's quite pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:30 AM
3

Don't you think clothes can be used to cover up flaws?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:43 AM
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Sure, it has existed for a long time. Being aware of potential downsides can never hurt though. And who's shitty towards them? Practically everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:15 AM
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Dick
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:13 AM
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What makes you think they view it as something intimidating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:08 AM
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Idk, I see some women complain about men watching porn. I think it's good they're spreading awareness tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:07 AM
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I'm really not. If I was, I wouldn't have taken a single glance at this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:03 AM
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So people can think about it. You're allowed to do "unhealthy" things, but being aware that they might be unhealthy can help one to slowly ease off that behavior, and it can help us to be less shitty towards women who don't wear makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:00 AM
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No, they also exist to please other women and society as a whole. And to please their own ego whenever it feels insecure. That's how a lot of people work. Has nothing to do with women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:32 AM
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Yeah, it's actually the MEN who are insecure lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:31 AM
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"Hey, I think watching porn is somewhat unhealthy." "So? Do you think I'll stop watching porn? Shut up. Just date someone who doesn't watch it." Why can't you point out unhealthy dynamics without demanding of people to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:30 AM
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All I've seen this do is pressure kids to be in relationships they're unhappy with or to objectify themselves to their bodies. I would never want to do that to my own daughter. How could I?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:50 PM
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Depends on the man. Anyways, being legally required to send some money isn't real involvement anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:33 PM
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Women can abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:30 PM
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So it's mommy who gets to decide if the baby is terminated or not. It's not the man's decision then, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:15 PM
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You are being silly, are you forgetting that: "Just don't have sex" and "consequence and effect" is used against abortion too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:14 PM
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Wait, so it's already a person when it's conceived? From a pro-choice POV you could say that >she< chose to let it grow into a fully grown human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:04 PM
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Lol, they said that in Texas too. In the end raped women had to give birth their rapist's baby. Rape can't be proved easily, that's just how things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:03 PM
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"Just don't have sex if you don't want to get pregnant/financially dependent for 18 years."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:02 PM
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Idk, my liberal european country has it at like... 22 weeks I think? Anyways, that's fair, although I don't think these things actually large barriers. There would be ways to deal with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:01 PM
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Ye
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:55 PM
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Rebranded abortion arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:53 PM
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Why shouldn't men be allowed to abandon a fetus? Women are allowed to terminate it. Ofcouse it's ethically difficult, because of how hard abortions can be on the mother and in our current system: single mothers are financially fucked by the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:51 PM
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Yeah, so it would depend on your general views on abortion. And the woman would suffer from having to go through it. As for the notarization: I feel like that barrier would be worth it for most men who don't want the child and could avoid a 18 year long monthly payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:50 PM
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Sure, but they can still be tied for 18 years straight. That's still a valid reason to want out. It isn't a person yet anyways, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:47 PM
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So you should have to prove you've been raped if you were raped and have to pay child support? How would someone proof that? We all know the majority of cases go unreported.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:47 PM
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18 years of payment for something you never wanted can mess with a person too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:44 PM
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Ah so, you're pro-life then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:44 PM
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Why would it have to happen within the first trimester? And I'm sure nobody would complain about abortion costs if it means getting out of 18 years of monthly payments. Nor do I think they'd have a problem getting it notarized, don't see why that's a barrier either tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:42 PM
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Wouldn't be fair to force a woman into giving birth for failing to screen the kind of person they were with either. Also again people change can change their mind. It might not be their bodies, but 18 years of payment isn't nothing either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:40 PM
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Maybe she changed her mind? Or maybe she lied? Maybe they made a mistake. Why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:30 PM
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Why is it your responsibility if you didn't choose for it? She made the decision to turn a lifeless blob of cells into a person. That's all on her, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:29 PM
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He's not free of 18 years of child support. That's quite a heavy responsibility too. Women can "just" abort. They hold more power in that sense at least. I think it's a rather difficult question tbh. If you believe fetus isn't a person then it's the woman who decided to turn that bunch of cells into a human being all on her own. She made the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:27 PM
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You can't force her to take a plan B.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:27 PM
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Ah, but you never chose for that child though. The woman gets to decide. And it might not be your body, but isn't it still unfair to expect someone to pay for 18 years become someone else chose to keep it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:26 PM
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Condoms don't always work, which is why we don't use that argument against women with abortions either. A woman can decide to keep the baby (and obviously) there's nothing a man could do about it. Some women feels incredibily attached to the fetus after they get pregnant, they can also lie. So shouldn't there be a way for men to opt out? I'm not saying it should be there, but it's interesting from a "philosophical" POV at least. Women can abort (which isn't an easy choice), men have no choice bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:23 PM
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Yet still, the woman gets the option to abort, the man doesn't. Ofcourse getting an abortion isn't easy, yet it is true they hold all the power. Shouldn't there be a way for men to opt out too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:19 PM
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Sometimes unlikely scenario's happen. Same with getting pregnant from the woman's perspective, no? It's difficult, honestly I'd rather reform society to a point where women financially able take of children all by themselves if they really want to. It's difficult because the biology and the corresponding responsibility of men and women are different, but I don't think it's unreasonable to want men to have some way out too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:13 PM
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Even with modern machinery?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:41 AM
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What does "submissive" mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:43 PM
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"My girl getting mad at me because the waitress smiled at me 0.1 seconds too long but also not letting me go to work/bed without eating first is just a good fun dynamic." I've met someone like this, it wasn't fun for the other person and got suffocating very fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:41 PM
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You know what, fuck it I'll agree: 18 year old girls shouldn't be allowed to be groomed into making porn. Does that mean the government should intervene? I don't know, that's a much more complex question. I think in general agency for individuals is good, at the same time I'll say that 40 year olds shouldn't prey on teenagers. I don't see how that's neccesarily contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:02 PM
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Why does someone need a fully developed brain in order to vote? Young people might not have as great self-control as older people, but I'd say they have an important stake in their future regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:00 PM
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https://nuancepill.com/does-height-influence-mens-reproductive-success/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:57 PM
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Meh, you're completely ignoring culture. Men are generally attracted to underweight women rather than women of a healthy according to a few studies that tried testing this. Would be silly to assume women aren't vulnerable to cultural influences too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:48 PM
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Yeah, I might be quite difficult, there's a lot of stupid people on this planet, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:45 PM
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Yeah, so the stereoype might not make sense, but it still exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:43 PM
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I'm mostly talking about the reason that short women who feel vulnerable might be attracted to taller men. Aside from that though, I think it's a cultural thing too. We focus a lot of "thinness" in our society, there are studies showing men (on average) are attracted to underweight women, not women of a healthy weight. We might have conditioned ourselves into overly focussing on certain traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:42 PM
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Find someone who's not so caught up in showing off their partner to their shitty friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:40 PM
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I've seen tallness be a pretty good intimidation factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:38 PM
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Women are a lot shorter than men on average. And you're leaving out the other 50% who doesn't seem to care as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:36 PM
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I've seen so many people being bullied over their height - no wonder that they're less mentally stable on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:36 PM
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Don't you think it makes sense that some short women would be the more caught up in finding someone who's tall so they can "protect" them? Some people really care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:35 PM
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Being short isn't neccesarily a disadvantage, it depends on context. Being slightly overweight isn't one either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:33 PM
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Idk dude, I feel like plenty of lesbians are doing just as well as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:30 PM
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It's hard to adapt a body in such a way that it won't risk dying from something as extreme as childbirth. Women already have larger vaginal channels and larger hips to as adaptations. It would be far easier to select for hairgrowth. We already got a mechanism in our body to differenciate between men and women when it comes to hair growth. So to me it seems rather easy to select for. I'd wager it's mostly cultural. Remember the whole: "shaving companies wanting to sell more razor blades" thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:03 PM
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What? What does women dying in birth matter for the natural or sexual selection of armpit hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:58 AM
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You're being silly, the fact that evolution didn't filter out all the hair from women already means it's not a big issue or it would be selected out already.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:49 AM
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Well, that's difficult, isn't it? I would have liked for a somewhat decentralized or democratic socialism or maybe something entirely different I can't imagine right now. That being said I honestly doubt if we're ever going to get out of this threadmill. Neither Marx-Leninists and Liberals would ever accept something like that, so I honestly don't know. The best I can do right now is try to not let this society affect me too much, to try and be a steady rock in the tide of something I can't chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:18 PM
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Yes, I think that's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:46 PM
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Online relationships are to real life relationships what a well watered wine is to a strong brandy. It allows for so much more social depth and when it comes to "shallow" attraction: doesn't dismiss half of our senses either. Even if you think these relationships are worth something, one could make a point that society complicated the forming of healthy relationships by digitalizing such a large part of our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:43 PM
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Maybe, you're a horny little meddeling social monkey. Although parts of that exist in me, I'm or we are so much more than that. I'm also a bipedal ape that sweats through their skin. One with incredibily advanced vocal cords and a brain that's unheard of in the animal kingdom and beyond. Sure we're also social monkeys that care a lot about social connections, but those go deeper than some silly checklists. There's a reason why most relationships start outside of dating apps. Don't assume that ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:35 PM
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Less, we're more isolated and digital than ever before. That being said, most of the socialist leaning people I know are getting fed with up "capitalist commodification" and seem steadfast in their idea of not using dating apps in order to form relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:35 PM
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Attachment is scary for people. And sadly the ideas people have about attraction don't always align with the things they value on a deeper level. It's no use being bitter about it, we've all inherented some flaws from our parents, society and the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:30 PM
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Capitalism will always push for more technological innovation, regardless of human benefit of downsides, as long as it serves the purpose of production and power for those that wield it. We won't be the ones who will control AI, we don't be the ones that get to decide how neurolink chips are used, we will just move along dancing in the comfort of our new toys, that were neither designed nor controlled by us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:28 PM
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Who says they were talking about the 50's? Dating apps are far more recent than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:24 PM
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The question is: is doing everything online really making us happier? OP is arguing that relationships without dating apps are formed on top of more genuine relationships between people, rather than just a few pictures and checklists. They are asking if this was better than what we have right now. I honestly think most people in succesful relationships meet without dating apps, so that might either say that dating apps aren't as common as people believe or that they're largely unsuccesful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:22 PM
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Yeah, but they didn't neccesarily wipe on apps all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:16 PM
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Lmao, so you're a hoe yourself, but you judge others for being one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:12 AM
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According to redpill logic you wouldn't be. Your values wouldn't overlap with building a healthy relationship. I'm keeping my own opinions out of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:55 PM
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A right wing radical feminist? That's new.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:54 PM
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Even if men are able to seperate sex and emotions better (which I doubt) they'd still be contributing to something they view as a problem by going out of their .way to have sex with women It's just as nonsensical as shaming porn stars while watching porn, why tf do you think they exist? > YOU < are the reason they exist, how tf are you going to judge them over it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:49 PM
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Yeah, this sub is full of hypocrites. It's easy to hold people other people to standards, but when it comes down to holding themselves to these same standards they're suddenly scared hedonistic rabbits that NEED to fuck the first woman they see.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:47 PM
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I'm saying it doesn't matter. In the end you're just as promisculous in both scenarios, honestly you could even argue you're moreso promisculous if you went through the (higher) effort of finding and bedding 100 women. Why would it matter what's more impressive? I bet a woman that fucks 1000 men in a year is quite impressive too, put a lot of effort in. Does that make it something you suddenly apperciate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:44 PM
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That doesn't change the underlying values of the person who has sex with this many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:35 PM
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The men on this sub are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:25 PM
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You're treating them as something to jack off to, you don't care about the person behind the photo. All it takes is seeing you something fit to jerk off to, they don't need to like you for that, they don't need to view you as a person. All they need is a bunch of tits and fantasies and maybe some attention too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:10 PM
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They're just using societal standards in their favor. Lots of people don't have very strict standards for themselves and women refuse to hold them accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:08 PM
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OP says she loves doing OF. Is she lying to herself according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:05 PM
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Why does it mean that? Some men and women view sex as something to consume, or to be consumed. They don't view it as something intimate at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:04 PM
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Then your problem isn't objectification, you just don't like being objectified in certain contexts. You like it when people use you as an object to jack off to in certain contexts, dislike it in other ones. And liking someone sexually is quite differently, since you know and view the person as a full-fledged human being. You not condencing them to being something to consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:01 PM
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Consent doesn't make something more or less objectifying. You're consenting to being used as a sexual object for their desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:58 PM
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You can hate something and still use it. People might hate cocaine, but still like using it to satisfy their desires. You equate the ability to use something with loving something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:50 PM
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What's your problem with objectification, it's how you earn money, no? Do you think people subbing to your OF view you like anything else than something to fuck? I honestly doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:48 PM
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You're so promisculous, do you think you're "husband material"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:46 PM
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I don't see how it's more dehumanising than sex work. That's about treating people like solely sexual objects too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:26 PM
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Because they're desperate. That's why people subscribe to onlyfans and fake a parasocial relationship instead of finding someone they actually value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:14 PM
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Sounds miserable. Like you're slave to your impulses. How could you ever judge the "slut" if you're one yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:09 PM
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I feel like I'm missing a part of the conversation because I'm not sure what you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:08 PM
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I don't think it's a horrible thing to not want to be with someone who does sex work or views sex as a very casual thing. It's just weird that they're not able to apply these standards to themselves because: "Muh sex drive."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:05 PM
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Yeah, you think that being sexually desired by men is something special?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:57 PM
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Maybe women should start judging more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:56 PM
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Why does it matter that it's easier for women? Your desire is still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:53 PM
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Don't you think people who are promisculous tend to value what they can get out of sex rather than, rather than the person they're with? That doesn't sound like a good basis for a relationship. In my experience it also often stems from a low self esteem and need of validation from the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:47 PM
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Wait, so you're still promisculous yourself? That seems rather hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:43 PM
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This isn't about statistics, this is about your individual life. And some people genuinely don't feel a need for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:22 AM
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Alright then, let me be more clear: I think this "milestone" is bullshit. I've seen so many people actually get stuck because of unhealthy relationships they got into. The only real issue is the judgement you might get from society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:15 AM
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Idk, maybe I haven't met enough abusive people in my life, but I'd want someone to actually trust me to not be a virgin chaser. I'd feel awful if that's how they might view me. I'd rather just have them trust me on the basis of getting to know me rather than them feeling like they have to lie to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:11 AM
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That's not a choice, not really compareable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:10 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:07 AM
0

Why would you care about "life mile stones"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:06 AM
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Or you just ask them if it's important to you?... I'm honestly baffled at all the strategies the men and women on this sub employ in order to hook or test the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:01 AM
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I hate it when people lie to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:00 AM
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Disagree, have you seen the hate some young women get from older women for dating older men? It's not just concern, it's competition too. Not every old woman is caring and nice, some of them remain completely immature, caring more about "a good man being stolen" than the fact that the young woman might be in trouble. Men and women can be incredibily vile, the gender stereotypes for women don't exactly hold up in real life. Women's competition might be "sneakier" or whatever, but it's there and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:21 AM
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Do you? Because using other reddit isn't much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:33 AM
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That goes for you guys too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:33 AM
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He has been far crazier than just those things. Cherrypicking some things about pronouns and accountability is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:56 PM
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I'm honestly puzzled at how you came to that conclusion then, maybe we just grew up in very different bubbles of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:38 PM
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And you can still be bitter about things you perceive to be the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:06 PM
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Biology is never that simple. Have you only ever been attracted to women for these characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:03 PM
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Have you ever befriended women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:01 PM
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Jesus Christ, y'all are bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:55 PM
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Or maybe women just don't want to be in a relationship where they would be unhappy because their partner is completely dependent on them for their happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:23 PM
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Women aren't a monolith, eh? Talking on a sub like this won't let you talk to the average woman either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:17 PM
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Don't most mentally healthy women want to feel safe during sex too? I haven't met many women who were secure and happy with themselves who didn't keep an eye on who they were vulnerable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:09 PM
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I think both me and the person I'd be with would deserve to find someone we actually like on a deep level. Otherwise it seems more like using the person to combat your own loneliness, rather than your actual love for them. The idea of viewing people like that would make me sad I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:02 PM
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I think our liberal culture 100% has had an effect on the commodification of human relationships. Nobody is more positive of sex work than liberals who believe it to be "empowering". We've reduced our sexual urges to porn and reduced eachother to competition on so many areas of our life. Wiping Tinder doesn't seem like it develops a healthy mindset surrounding relationships, for neither gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:59 PM
2

How do people do that? That doesn't seem healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:58 PM
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Huh, alright then. It would absolutely make me miserable I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:54 PM
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Would you prefer this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE7RgfuQyFY&ab_channel=JREG over being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:46 PM
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Can't you have casual sex while still being somewhat emotionally involved? Or I guess not honestly, most people would get attched and getting attached often means people wanting something longterm. It sounds kind of awful ngl, no idea how people are able to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:05 PM
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I'm a very zealous and judgemental person, but I think it's reasonable to expect a half-decent people to not cheat on their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:48 PM
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Maybe because they're not a dirtbag that cheats on their partner? And maybe they like having you as a long term partner and building something with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:34 PM
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So you use eachother as glorified masturbation devices? Holy shit capitalism has ruined us. Talk about alienation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:25 PM
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Oh jeez, you people are insane.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 12:19 AM
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Such high standards, you expect men to fill all three of those?
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 12:19 AM
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Calling yourself a feminist/leftist/anarchist/ect is annoying, people start expecting you to have certain opinions about things instead of just allowing you to have them. I hate having to justify my anti-porn positions and being told I'm not feminist over it. And If I did like porn people would still call me an anti-feminist. Leftists constantly argue over who's a "real leftist" too, so I don't like adhering to labels. And I've also heard some people hating it when men call themselves feminists,…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 12:08 AM
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The World of Warcraft effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:23 PM
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It's quite entertaining, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:48 PM
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Maybe get heart monitors implanted into everyone so they can be monitored to see if they're really excercising. Let the justice system punish them whenever they didn't manage to work out. Now that you mention it, if that doesn't work, how about: mandatory stomach operations for anyone that's unable to lose enough weight. Authoritarian cybergovernment speedrun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:37 PM
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I expected something like: "Do something about the insane work culture that causes stress. Less stress means less stress-eating and more time for cooking healthy food. More regulations on the food industry and a stronger focus on mental health would also help. Let's give people the space and peace to develop themselves both physically and mentally." Instead this guy wants the US government to drag you outside of your home to do jumping jacks under the force of a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:36 PM
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Not concerned, just think you're weird too
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:49 PM
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You seem to really enjoy attention, most people wouldn't want to hear from their coworkers that they'll fuck them right now. I'm not saying that's a bad thing neccesarily, but it's quite unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:41 PM
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True, but that includes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:30 PM
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Imagine getting a DM saying something like: "May I send you a picture of my penis? Madam?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:31 PM
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"Sexual advances" that are non-consensual are called sexual harrasment. There's women who don't care either, but others find it quite awful to see your greasy dick. Shouldn't be that hard to flirt a bit to check if they'd be okay with it before sending it if you really insist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:24 AM
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Do you have women sending photo's of their vulva in your DM's? That case I'll speak out against that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:18 AM
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Yoooo, this sub is crazy for real "Nooo broo, I was just making a sexual advance by showing her my penis!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:07 AM
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What do you think it is then? Have a better reason for sending unsolicitated photo's your penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:06 AM
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Hope that 3% thinks the same about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:12 PM
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Oh alright, I just think i'd be weird to seek out people you dislike so you don't get attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:24 PM
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Y'all really use eachother as glorified masturbation devices huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:14 AM
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Yeah no, I'm a guy and I feel the same. Makes it pretty easy for me to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:12 AM
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I had genuine friends when I loathed myself, I think this "how could anyone love you" is just useless wisdom. I agree that it's a lot healthier to be with someone who accepts and cares for themselves though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:10 PM
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I'd argue aside from healthy trends, there's there's also some unhealthy things going on here. I've personally found people to be more and more afraid of commitment and the possibility of getting hurt, offering up a lot of growth with people in the proces.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:08 PM
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Oh yeah, I'm quite sure we are. It might be overstated, but hormones alone are enough to significantly influence the way we act.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:29 PM
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Social sciences aren't as drycut as natural sciences are. And evolutionary psychology is basically a mix between the two, rather than just a natural science.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:49 PM
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See how quickly a woman "loses her value" according to the people here as soon as she starts treading outside of contemporary social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:59 PM
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Yeah and how many times in history have evolutionary scientists been completely wrong by now? A scientist saying something doesn't automatically make it true. Especially not when it comes to more "social" topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:56 PM
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You seem to underestimate how weird humans can be: https://blog.sciencemuseum.org.uk/tuberculosis-a-fashionable-disease/ And I've seen studies highlighting that most men are attracted to women that are underweight. Which shouldn't be a fucking suprise considering the abuse models have to go through in order to be skinny enough for the frontpages of magazines.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:53 PM
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You're acting as if cultural upbringing doesn't affect the things a person is attracted to. People used to be attracted to the pale skin of tuberculosis patients, partially because a book that fetishized them - culture matters. "Woke" culture isn't nearly as widespread as you seem to think it is, porn and social media still show skinny women with huge tits as the standard. These things are far more nuanced than you're bringing it. And obesity and being overweight are two different things indeed,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:45 PM
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Because culture doesn't change that easily. Decades of fatshaming (and an association with health problems) doesn't go away because of a few virtue signalling ad campaigns.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:33 PM
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That's stupid, fatter women have been found quite attractive at some points in history. Did you ever look at older artwork?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:21 PM
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And yet we live in a world where it >is< incredibily important, even if it's not innately human. I'd rather not be seen as a masturbatory device, nor as someone to be used soley for someone else's material desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:59 AM
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I'm sure those things matter, just like how busty a woman is matters to a lot of men, that doesn't mean there is some kind of magical formula explaining attraction from either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:53 AM
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I added a part to my comment. Anyways, in that case I'm confused on what you're referring to, didn't they talk about going after someone's money?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:49 AM
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I don't think you should base your judgement of people based on statistics. I also think liking someone for their money is still shallow even if you pretend it's because of their personality traits, rather than just the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:46 AM
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Believe me, I've met plenty of rich people and their personality traits weren't all that great. Rich people aren't "evil", but they have plenty of problems going on. And in most cases they were born rich, turns out having rich parents with connections with other rich people is a good way to end up with a well earning job.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:21 AM
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In our world money is incredibily important. You could also argue you're feeding someone and keeping them alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:20 AM
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Pfff, obviously being wanted only for sex is so much better than being wanted only for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:20 AM
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Well, then I don't know :P
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:04 PM
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Yeah, I'd say you're probably in a different environment from OP, that's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:55 PM
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I've added some other stuff to my comment. Anyways, I agree, but I think expecting men to paid is something that's expected at this point. That's not something I'll ever be bitter at women for, men maintain that exact same status quo, but it is something I find to be rather shallow and not really a genuine expression of love. And gender roles are great and all, but trying to discovering other ways to show love might actually allow you to find something that's far more suited for yourself as well…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:49 PM
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I feel like love that's expected is a lot less genuine. I'm also not sure if men neccesarily prefer showing love by being useful and providing stuff, it's just the default that they've been taught. I personally love being useful, but I don't like it when it's expected of me, I want it to be >my< expression of love, not something society or acceptance by men or women coaxed me into. And as a guy, I've apperciated gifts so much. Even if other men don't, maybe letting go of seeing love languages as…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:41 PM
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I've gotten attention before >because< I wasn't that macho at times. I'm not saying that's common or that most women don't apperciate masculinity, but I think y'all are overgeneralizing like crazy. Even if you think the other gender sucks and is shallow or whatever, there's always a lot of variety between individual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:33 PM
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Yeah, I'm not talking about sides either, but I personally don't think women view relationships more transactionally than men do. How it seems to me is that in our society, men are expected to show apperciation with money, women are expected to do so with emotional support and sex. I think that's transactional too. So I don't agree with the person you initially replied to in that sense, just because you expect to get something else than you've given in return doesn't make it any less transaction…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:23 PM
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I'd say plenty of men see women as a doll to bang too, or as a way to get their emotional needs met. That's transactional too. Neither men or women get out of this one unscaved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:10 PM
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What makes you think that? I've had women give me gifts before. I don't think they were into me (unless I missed some really obvious signs), but I even got a card for my birthday from someone I barely knew at that point. They even dragged me to the cafetaria in college to buy food for me whenever I would forget it and be too stingy with my own money. I don't think I'll ever over that simple kindness seemingly coming out of nowhere. It even got me to quit simping for someone I was simping on for …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:54 PM
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Idk dude, if women went overseas to prey on men with a low income or trying to flee from a dictatorship, I'd have said something about that too. Stop victimizing yourself. Feminists have plenty of flaws, but they're not "out to get you." And criticism of passport bros can't be justified with a whataboutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:53 AM
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Men have found a cheat code? I thought y'all were whining about how many men are still single. Honestly, it doesn't seem to be working.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:52 AM
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So? They view the girl they're dating as a chance to get their dicks wet. It's transactional in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:47 AM
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This seems overly pedantic. Not wanting to involve other people into your sex lives seems perfectly fair to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:38 AM
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Monogamy is narcissism now I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:47 AM
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It's not fucked to expect that from your partner. During marriage there's compromises to be made, on his side too. It would be unfair of you to expect him letting you hurt him for your pleasure, right? So why do you expect that from yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:43 AM
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Yeah, it will makes things harder for you. Most people got exposed to porn as teenagers. I think in the end additude matters more than never having watched porn or virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:38 AM
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Yeah, that sounds quite rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:36 AM
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Interesting, I've genuinely never thought about it like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:36 AM
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You should say no to things you don't want. Stand strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:32 AM
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Sure, but that doesn't make it healthy for your mind. And I don't think the men on romance novels are that attractive, but maybe my straight guy is showing. Anyways, I genuinely don't see how feminism wouldn't contradict fetishizing abusive BDSM. Just because it's popular doesn't make it harmless, or internet pornography would be completely innocent as well, which it obviously isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:30 AM
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Nobody is fully aware of "male or female sexuality", especially not on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:20 AM
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Redditors will never not be shocked to remember you can masturbate without porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:18 AM
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Yeah, that's fair
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:13 AM
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Not at this point. I like living in the moment and I'd rather kill any desire to watch porn alltogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:13 AM
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I'd opt for cocaine at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:11 AM
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Ha, gottem!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:10 AM
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"You're just insecure honey, brb going to fuck another man." Yeah, none of you would take this shit. It depends on your boundries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:10 AM
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That's quite different from the incredibily abusive and fetishized porn industry that most people watch. Also can't tell me that written porn can't be harmful (Remember 50 shades of Grey? That was quite a shitstorm). I'll 100% believe that it's better, but keeping a critical eye is still important.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:07 AM
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Bad idea, you'll still end up craving porn if you become addicted to it. You can't use your girlfriend as a replacement for porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:05 AM
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It's not unrealistic to not want a partner that watches porn. It's not >that< hard to stop, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:05 AM
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No, you're totally right. Most of these people wouldn't date a sex worker either, yet they're still choking their rabbit whenever they see them. And that's totally ignoring the insanely abusive industry and studies showing negative effects for your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:03 AM
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