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how horrible men are to each other, how even the most benign daily interactions are often turned into a one-sided pissing contest you have no way out of. Every conversation is a challenge, every group project is a duel, god forbid you need something from a man you don’t know, the horror. I know this is true with a very high frequency in some circles, but it does seem like you need to hang around with better quality people. I'm generally able to avoid people like this (mostly) in my adult life. W…
/r/MensRights20/07/26 02:22 AM
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When fathers start getting custody at a more appropriate rate, they'll magically find a way to do these audits
/r/MensRights07/07/26 02:13 PM
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This is pathetic. You'd think somebody or some team out there trying to prove a point would overdo the integrity of the structure as insurance and then use the advanced integrity as a bragging point. Throughout my career, I have been given a chance to do something younger than most people, and I use that as a chip on my shoulder to make damn sure nobody can nitpick at anything and say "see, this is why we leave this to experience"
/r/MensRights29/05/26 03:35 PM
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I'm another case Not retired yet, but targeting mid to late 40's. Many of my friends make more than me, even before accounting for the 2nd income in their households and still can't visualize a scenario where they retire before death. A select few optimistically think they won't have to work for the last 5 years of their anticipated lifespan.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 03:04 PM
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Yeah, the most common one I hear is the right to walk down the street alone at night, which we have no more legal protections than they do. But mention the right to remain silent in family court while everything is taken, and you're a misogynist
/r/MensRights30/03/26 04:55 PM
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In case anybody is interested, last Friday's episode of 20/20 was about this case
/r/MensRights23/03/26 08:05 PM
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This is going to be an unpopular take, but when it was viewed as a movement, it would start off positive and slowly become toxic. The affiliated subreddit had some great resources, but eventually the discussions were dominated by a vocal minority that would just argue amongst themselves. Some were so anti-women that you'd be called a cuck for not disowning your sister. I personally have always viewed MGTOW more as my sexual orientation than some movement I am part of. While I think it can techni…
/r/MensRights09/02/26 10:05 PM
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That does sound interesting, but I'm even more intrigued by stories where there was bias in datasets which made things look completely broken, when they weren't. e.g. Automatic soap dispensers not working for black people or Asians having trouble using face detection cameras unless they went bug-eyed
/r/MensRights27/01/26 02:40 AM
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Probably not in the actual software. It's training data is the biased online discussions already taking place. We're in a gynocentric society, that's what it's going to learn
/r/MensRights26/01/26 05:20 PM
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"It's what's best for the child" never mind that he is one too
/r/MensRights14/11/25 05:05 PM
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That last one is the big one for me Money can possibly be replaced. Your children can't be.
/r/MensRights05/10/25 11:50 PM
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Price comparison is generally in favour of the method you outlined, but that calculation makes a lot of presumptions. In my case (and I've never used an escort, but definitely have done the math) the issue is that I've paid for my home, and live in an area where that's not relevant. It would still be divided 50/50. At the pace the real estate market has appreciated, the amount I stand to lose increases by over half my salary, annually. If I was a renter, and had a prenup, in a jurisdiction where…
/r/MensRights05/10/25 11:24 PM
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It's very common for people to be suspended WITH pay during an investigation of wrongdoing. People on Reddit complain about this happening with police all the time. Only after they are declared guilty does the pay stop. I think this is a reasonable approach. The employer may not want a suspected employee on the front lines during an investigation, but the employee deserves to not have the consequences of guilt until there is a determination of guilt. The oddity here is that these players didn't …
/r/MensRights12/09/25 01:47 PM
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> People shouldn’t be suspended from their jobs when they’re not guilty of any wrong doing. I don't disagree. I don't even think people should be on unpaid suspension while they await trial. But this isn't a normal job, once their contracts expired, how much do you feel they should have been paid? Like how does somebody fairly decide that number? The CBA probably needs a provision for how to handle any appealed suspension running past a players contract length.
/r/MensRights12/09/25 07:52 AM
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By whom? At what rate? Do they have contracts to reference?
/r/MensRights11/09/25 11:02 PM
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Absolutely And we need to stop doing it to ourselves. Women will be shallow, men don't need to value each other based on how many women they attract. We need to do a better job (collectively) of not buying into this crap. Some of us are so desperate to get the girl that we put each other down. This doesn't help. It's not even half of men who behave this way, but it's enough for men's self-worth to be highly correlated to who and moreso how many they can pull.
/r/MensRights10/09/25 02:08 PM
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They want to be advantaged, in general, and be in the top 1% of they can, they just expect to get a man in the top .1%. They still want to be ahead of the average man, they just expect their partner to be even further ahead of the average
/r/MensRights10/09/25 01:12 AM
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You need to remove the incentives for people to be willing to throw it all away for a temporary high. Divorce should not be a financial windfall for either party, and child support should be a little less rigid. There seems to be this silly attitude that a child will alternate between eating dirt one week at one parent and filet mignon at the others. If those extremes are true, a social worker should examine that case and determine what is best for the child, otherwise, there should be flexibili…
/r/MensRights08/09/25 05:55 PM
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How many items do you have? What size city do you live in?
/r/MensRights08/09/25 05:19 PM
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It gives credibility to some unsavory ideas in other parties. This cannot be stressed enough
/r/MensRights03/09/25 08:03 AM
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I'd have my guard up and question their motives
/r/MensRights20/08/25 05:38 PM
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I'd argue worse If somebody pulls down my pants, I can at least pull them back up....he didn't have anywhere near a similar option
/r/MensRights16/08/25 06:00 PM
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To add, the original MGTOW subreddit was getting pretty toxic. Somebody started MGTOW2 which was trending much better. I don't hate women, I just acknowledge that the family courts have created such a power dynamic in relationships that it has infested our Western culture as a whole, and I choose not to participate in that aspect of society. In the original MGTOW subreddit, you'd be called a cuck for admitting that you grabbed a coffee with a female coworker or helped a female cousin move her fu…
/r/MensRights29/06/25 06:27 PM
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But over time, I started to see how little space there was left for me. No free time, no real sense of partnership, just me constantly pouring into someone else's life while mine was just to support hers. I am quite self-sufficient so I never actually tested her capacity to reciprocate. I realized this as a teenager and have been MGTOW since. I remember telling myself: I know I won't regret this at 20 I have no reason to believe I will regret this at 30 I have no reason to believe I will regret …
/r/MensRights29/06/25 06:24 PM
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I think it was actually 9
/r/MensRights19/12/24 01:52 AM
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She starts off making a great point and then takes it to draw an extreme conclusion. I don't want women to lose any rights, especially the right to vote, but I think if you cut her off before she gets to those conclusions, she is pretty spot on about stuff.
/r/MensRights23/10/24 03:01 AM
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OK, so I agree with most of the comments here, but nobody has addressed this part of your post specifically yet each side she wins and I lose. You shouldn't be in any relationship, romantic or otherwise, which makes you feel this way. People cut off family who makes them feel this way. It's one thing to put up with it if you feel you can't replace what she brings (I personally went MGTOW), but why bring this INTO your home? Dates are at least an arms length away. The costs are fixed and predicta…
/r/MensRights12/10/24 03:00 PM
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This depends where you're from. It does not take years and calling each other husband/wife where I am.
/r/MensRights12/10/24 02:53 PM
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The short answer to your question is yes, absolutely. The more nuanced answer is that "having a chance" vs "logical thing to do" have a few degrees of separation between them, so I may not jump at a chance just because it arose.
/r/MensRights08/09/24 06:27 PM
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All this will do is cause women to not tell the father that she's pregnant until it's too late
/r/MensRights04/08/24 04:02 PM
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If you're OK with this in a reverse gender situation, I don't see the issue with your behaviour, and doubt most others would
/r/MensRights26/02/24 03:58 AM
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I just thought I was being helpful by trying to reduce stress on him. Was I wrong? I'm sorry you're being downvoted for asking a legitimate question. Honestly, it's hard to answer. It depends on the person and the nature of the issue. Personally, I judge on the persons intention, but I can understand how somebody can feel like you're piling on. Especially if they have issues with anxiety and you have a history of piling on. A large factor is also how it's phrased and what the issue specifically …
/r/MensRights18/02/24 10:39 PM
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Not OP, but sometimes if the wife is having an affair and moves out, it can really help with keeping the house. She still gets the cash out of the equity that will cripple you, but if there's kids, often the spouse who leaves first can end up sacrificing their right of tenancy
/r/MensRights13/12/23 07:47 PM
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Most of them are likely neither. I am willing to bet over 90% of these women who have a height preference only do because it's a social norm
/r/MensRights30/10/23 06:57 PM
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You're only 20, so this is a very forgivable error, but you're using logic against people who do not (and probably cannot)
/r/MensRights30/10/23 06:55 PM
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While I agree with you, towards the end, there was definitely a focus on whiteness in a few posts (best estimate is around 2-3%). There were definitely the occasional threads where I felt as a non-white man I was being labelled as part of the problem, which is silly. I think there was a tiny percentage of the community that wasn't about "hey, these are things you can do on your own" and more about "I really only want to associate with other white men because we are being discriminated against in…
/r/Divorce_Men10/05/23 02:23 PM
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I don't know how well it would take off. Some men would use it, but most men who suspect they're a free meal are checking out of the dating game.
/r/MensRights10/05/23 02:14 PM
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It's quite common for a man to get married and have the wife move in to the house he lives in already with his parents. Most people aren't moving out before marriage. I think it's generally the oldest son or maybe just the first one to get married who this responsibility falls on, but I imagine it varies slightly with family dynamics
/r/MensRights14/04/23 08:49 PM
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There was an episode of House I remember where a child patient convinced an adult male doctor to give her, her first kiss, but even there, later in the episode it was something that was made fun of
/r/MensRights13/04/23 04:32 PM
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I think there are a lot of men who do, but they get lumped in with the other murderers and abusers, so we may be less aware of those cases. I'd bet a lot of men who are in jail for harming their spouse were hoping to avoid a horrible situation and just hoped they could get away with it in the heat of the moment
/r/MensRights03/04/23 04:23 AM
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HR rarely has straight men on staff - you have to be very careful when the issue is sexism
/r/MensRights21/02/23 06:21 PM
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Right, but I said "unless" not "even if" Which in this case, is a huge difference Him making less absolutely matters. If he has the kids 1/3 of the time, and pays 1/3 of their expenses, and makes 1/5 the money, he shouldn't have to pay support. That's not taking him out of the equation. That's just accepting the reality of the numbers.
/r/MensRights30/11/22 09:03 PM
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Her making more doesn’t take him out of the equation. I was very careful to not suggest this. I don't know why you think I am saying this. I only said he shouldn't pay support if the discrepancy between time with the kids is greater than the discrepancy between their incomes. He has a moral obligation to contribute to their upbringing as a parent. There's no reality I can think of where the amount in question is justified. Even if she has them full time, even if you don't care about income discr…
/r/MensRights30/11/22 07:33 PM
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So...yes, what you said. However, nobody is making an example of him. There is a formula in place that decided 2 1/2 million dollars a year was appropriate for this circumstance. If she's wealthier than he is, and he has the kids at least 50% of the time, why is ANY support being ordered? However you want to feel about Kanye, this is absolutely a Men's Rights issue. Unless she has the kids nearly 100% of the time, I'm not sure why he should pay support at all given the discrepancy in wealth. In …
/r/MensRights30/11/22 03:12 PM
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they don't post a sexy / pretty looking photo of the woman They may have if they could have come across one. She's much older now, and may not be very photogenic. There's a picture here: https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2022/10/03/6-former-colton-high-football-players-allege-sexual-abuse-by-former-coachs-daughter/
/r/MensRights04/10/22 08:41 PM
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Sorry for the rant Don't be! I, for one, appreciated reading that
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:34 AM
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I have some Googling to do Thank you!
/r/MensRights20/09/22 01:21 AM
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So when more and more men are expelled from campus before their 2nd semester in undergrad What is this in reference to? Is there a news article I missed somewhere? This seems concerning
/r/MensRights19/09/22 10:07 PM
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Usually nothing, or pretty close The mentality is that if we punish people who admit they made it up, it deters others from admitting they made it up...but we do nothing to deter them from making it up in the first place
/r/MensRights20/08/22 04:15 AM
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I'm a few years younger than you and keep trying to articulate this to my social circle They see how I am with children and think I should put myself out there, but there's no point. Nothing would destroy me more than having children of my own taken from me, especially if it's literally out of spite
/r/MensRights06/08/22 06:37 PM
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Even if you were being an absolute prick, the fact that they didn't even ask you your version of events is in itself something that should be fought back against Do you know any of the men on their team that might support you? Even if it's just that you should have had the right to share your side
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:30 AM
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Some US States are trying to criminalize it again, or at least that's the speculation. I'm pro-choice, personally, but the level of obsession some people have with the right to abortions has astounded me. You'd think that this is like an annual event in some of these peoples lives. Maybe I am naive, but I think the average person, over the course of their lifetimes would be more heavily impacted by something like a discriminatory hiring practice than they would be by an unwanted and unintended p…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 07:15 PM
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My guess is this person is referring to abortions
/r/MensRights12/07/22 01:15 PM
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I agree And you don't want to disincentivize optimal behaviour during marriage. I think there should be a standard wage applied for this purpose, maybe a percentage of the other partner's earnings capped at the median wage This unfortunately puts Trophy Wife and Super Mom at the same standard, but that's kind of what happens now anyway
/r/MensRights01/05/22 04:48 PM
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While I obviously agree with the points in the post, I imagine many governments prefer it this way so they don't have to audit a situation where the father claims 104 days and the mother claims 313 days resulting in larger than the standard deduction and then having to intervene and figure out the truth. The standard legal practice is to screw the father if it's less administrative hassle. I think this can change when there is a foolproof and tamper-proof way of doing the division
/r/MensRights18/04/22 03:31 PM
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This is lost on too many. MGTOW and Incel are both labels, both of which get more and more bastardized into stereotypes and both of which are being more and more entangled with each other. Incel literally means involuntarily celibate. "Incel" however has been associated with a stereotype of a subgroup of incels who have gone over an edge. I am sure there is a portion of people who are involuntarily celibate who have just accepted it and moved on with life. I think these fit with what you are try…
/r/MensRights15/01/22 07:32 PM
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It's interesting to see somebody bring this up. I identify as MGTOW, I phrase it that way because there is definitely a misogynistic vocal minority, and media (traditional and social) has painted the whole group with that brush. One of the ways in which I deviate from the group is that I don't believe "all women are like that". I firmly do believe a large enough percentage are, but as somebody very involved in my own religious community, I know that there is a very very small group who are still…
/r/MensRights15/01/22 07:13 PM
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Yeah, tons of people in this thread are saying that he should have taken this video to the police and the courts, I don't believe for a second that would do anything other than a judge saying "hey cut that out!" and then dealing with this again
/r/MensRights27/11/21 03:58 PM
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If she's leaving you and not taking your children from you, I'd call it a win. Most men whose wives get bored get to see their kids twice a month, if she doesn't play games to make it worse. A woman like this is probably wired to leave at some point anyway, if she's leaving all 3 of you, take the win, and don't try to change her mind, because the next time she has this idea, she may take the kids with her. As for your question, no. If the woman leaves, it's because the man isn't doing enough to …
/r/MensRights26/11/21 01:05 PM
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The Prime Minister is a simp, but I think this would happen under Scheer, O'Toole, Trudeau, Singh, even Bernier. This is what society as a whole has become and finds acceptable.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 07:15 PM
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Nailed it. When I tell my male friends I am going to stay single, less and less do I get told I'm wrong. More and more I am sensing I am talking to a man who does not have the strength to do the same, and wishes they did.
/r/MGTOW31/05/21 07:39 PM
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This is what I am thinking. Somebody probably thought this, but didn't think "what ELSE could I do for him?" I'm sure a gift card for a coffee would have cost less and meant just as much
/r/MensRights21/04/21 04:55 PM
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I actually had this happen to me way back when. She said it would even out in the future. To her credit, she was sincere, it did. I was asked out under the pretense of it not being a date, when it ended up being very clearly a date. She invited a friend, who insisted on paying me back after the fact, but the "date" herself didn't. (It was only like $10 anyway) She was very upset that I accepted payment from her friend because she was insistent that it would even out over time as we took turns pa…
/r/MGTOW27/02/21 06:31 PM
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I'm surprised this isn't higher up. Me and my buddies were all like this in high school, but we kind of knew what was appropriate and when a line was being crossed, and more importantly, it didn't leave our social circle. It was only ever a problem if somebody was dishing it out and couldn't it take it themselves
/r/MGTOW213/02/21 02:39 AM
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Most people are incapable of this level of empathy. Why do some people prefer to spend their disposable income at $200 restaurants, while others prefer luxury cars? Definitely not the same thing, but the person who eats at $200 restaurants looks at the luxury car and thinks "What a waste of money!" and the person who prefers the luxury car looks at the $200 restaurant bill and thinks the same. It is only a few people who can look at the other and say "we are wired differently, and his meal bring…
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 03:53 AM
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I'd love to see the standard deviation on that number
/r/MGTOW214/01/21 03:26 PM
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While I agree with your perspectives, I can tell you that /r/MGTOW is exceptionally right leaning. Politics are brought up when they're not even relevant at times. I don't see it as much here, but I bet you this sub is right leaning as well. I consider myself a Centrist, but as a Canadian, my definition of Centrist is probably very left-leaning for the average American. I too believe in strong social programs, and I do want to be in a society where we help people who genuinely need it. The probl…
/r/MGTOW210/01/21 02:55 AM
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Disgusted by Onlyfans? No! I will never subscribe to anybody ever, but the fact that it's created a marketplace where any woman willing to sell her body in that way can, is wonderful. Women have always competed for the top resource-providers. Normally, it's the attention of an "alpha" male. Now, it's for the simps dollar. In both cases, there is only so much to go around. Much like any highly commoditized marketplace, they will have to keep undercutting each other or providing a better service i…
/r/MGTOW214/12/20 06:19 PM
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Hang in there She'll never see the wall coming and will spend like she'll make a million a year forever. You'll live within your means and have a peaceful existence and hopefully never have anything taken from you by repossession (or family courts)
/r/MGTOW28/11/20 05:23 AM
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Probably not Too many single mothers celebrating themselves again
/r/MGTOW27/10/20 09:52 PM
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He'll get burned, but better to learn at 24 when his net worth is 5 figures than at 34 when his net worth is 6 or 7. If he doesn't learn from being burned now, he's probably lost
/r/MGTOW27/09/20 01:18 AM
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I've posted this before, but when I talk to other men about what they're about to get themselves into, there are definitely some who just don't get it. But there's a few, where you can tell, they understand the logic, they just don't have the courage to go against the grain. We are very lucky to be MGTOW. We don't just understand, but also have the strength to go our own way. Some are too stupid to get it and will keep getting bitten. Some people are scared of being alone, so they metaphorically…
/r/MGTOW19/09/20 11:05 PM
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Your first few sentences tell me the problem right away. Because they appear to be better than you at one thing, you've gone and assumed they're better than you at everything. Even if you weren't going MGTOW, that's just awful logic. All you can say is that he's better than you at attracting that girl. That shit shouldn't matter anyway when it comes to a measuring stick. I fully acknowledge that if I wasn't MGTOW, I would probably not be the most successful guy out there in racking up pussy coun…
/r/MGTOW214/09/20 10:26 PM
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Even if I accept everything you say as correct (I'm skeptical of your last paragraph), I think most people would find this inappropriate even if the genders were reversed.
/r/MensRights12/09/20 04:38 AM
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Spousal support has its place, but it should literally be just enough for the other person to get back to even. She's been out of the workforce 15 years, yeah, it's going to take some time to find a job and work her way back. You give her maybe $4000 a month for 3 months to get on her feet and maybe $1000 a month for a year to make up for a lower wage. You're very correct in saying that $600000 a year is insane
/r/MensRights12/09/20 04:34 AM
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You'll have to give her one game a month until she gets a PS5 Hopefully she won't take you to court, because as much as I'm joking, she'd probably win
/r/MensRights12/09/20 04:28 AM
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Some googling suggests that she initially won by claiming that some of the settlement was lost wages. He later won on appeal. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2014/05/13/appeals-court-ex-wife-shall-not-receive-a-penny-of-dallas-county-dna-exonerees-compensation/ It saddens me that I actually had to check if she was successful because I wouldn't have been surprised if she was.
/r/MGTOW31/08/20 07:05 AM
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Yeah, she'll do that when somebody else is paying the bills
/r/MGTOW20/08/20 02:56 AM
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Yes...THIS is it. The vast majority of men do have a friend like that to show them the way. They just think it can't happen to them because they've found "the one". Some of my friends actually do listen, but you can tell there's this inherent fear of being alone, so they risk their lives. Thankfully, more and more men are seeing the light in their 30s when there's still lots of time to undo the damage, and she hasn't walked away with a massive retirement fund.
/r/MGTOW09/08/20 03:47 PM
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What I find hilarious is whenever I have this conversation, the people who argue with me the most are men who have been divorced (some single, some married again). The people who tell me I'm right the most... elderly women. They start from telling me I should get married and end up telling me I'm so right and then offer a story about how a nephew or cousin or someone got screwed over, in many cases shortly after the wedding.
/r/MGTOW203/08/20 06:23 AM
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That's probably a 2 week pay period for which these hours may not qualify for overtime
/r/MensRights04/07/20 03:24 PM
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Yeah, most of them have a few hundred subscribers at what $5, $10, $20 a month? Plus the site must be taking a cut. I'm sure the upper half don't need a day job, but I doubt there's more than the very top women making 7 figures a year
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 11:08 PM
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Yes, but the term "feminism" has been so bastardized recently that it does seem to be the literal opposite of MRA. So claiming to be a feminist would not project to necessarily mean what you are implying it to mean. It's not that being for one genders rights inherently imply you're against the other, but people and words change with time.
/r/MensRights09/06/20 02:53 AM
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Young men always ask my advice. I tell them not to go their own way...yet. Get it out of your system when dates still cost $20-30. It feels like a lot to a teenager, but it's better than thinking you're missing something and losing much much more when you're older. Learning your lesson young is the most financially saavy thing you can do.
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 01:00 PM
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This is exactly what they say they want to achieve. Break up the group and it will likely only exist in fractured pieces.
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 04:03 PM
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Yes, but it's kind of gone out of fashion. I used to hear it a lot in 2011-2013, now I mainly see it in /r/wallstreetbets when somebody is gambling their life savings
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 01:09 AM
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"You Only Live Once" Many idiots say it before doing something stupid or risky to justify what they're about to do.
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 12:08 AM
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Reported for spam, this guys profile is all about the video, not even paying attention to what subreddit it's in "I even started dating again" You've inspired so many Men going their own way to join you
/r/MGTOW230/05/20 11:15 PM
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George Carlin, Lewis Black and Jim Gaffigan
/r/MGTOW230/05/20 10:56 PM
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I can imagine "Can you dig it SUCKA" during the walk-up to the witness stand
/r/MGTOW26/05/20 10:35 PM
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I was thinking the very same thing If he spent less than $1000 a month on her (and could afford to spend what he did), he got a great deal. She didn't nag or bitch for 2 years either. The only thing that sucks is OP didn't see it coming and got hurt emotionally. Sucks, but a much better way to going your own way than most men find.
/r/MGTOW222/05/20 08:39 PM
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Your wife actually thinks that exercise is selfish? How does she justify that? Let me try spinning the hamster wheel! *If he exercises, he can't drop dead of a heart attack at the age of 54, the poor woman has to wait an extra 25 years to collect on his life insurance. If he loved her he wouldn't be exercising.* More likely she sees it as leisure time, and thinks that by being a mother she doesn't have any, and that's not fair to her. Whatever her reasons are, it's beyond selfish to think he's b…
/r/MGTOW222/05/20 06:15 AM
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impressively, nobody seems to be taking her side in that thread
/r/MGTOW16/05/20 05:55 PM
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My unpopular opinion Not worth the risks. You do all these things to go your own way, set up for an awesome life of solitude, and could end up having the same problems as every simp. Regret rape, faulty (or sabotaged) birth control, jealous partners, strings being attached, etc Risk vs Reward just seems way off to me Some dudes go for hookers to avoid all this. I work hard for my money and really don't think sex is worth paying for. However, if I had a lot more money and/or hookers were cheaper,…
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 10:38 PM
2

We do know that, but there's value in a single source with experience from both saying so - especially to the people who do know it, but don't realize it. I, for one, love that I am seeing things like this more often, and moreso that people confirm their experience rather than accusing them of misogyny
/r/MGTOW209/04/20 02:49 AM
5

And it will be the comeback story of the decade and a movie about her struggles will be made in 2035 to inspire the next generation of misandrists
/r/MGTOW09/04/20 01:45 AM
3

They won't qualify and will get welfare instead, and if anybody protests, they'll be vilified for not wanting to support the vulnerable
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 06:52 PM
1

logic See why it didn't work out that way?
/r/MGTOW05/04/20 05:40 PM
8

I've been seeing this happen more and more often the last little while and it's wonderful to see people waking up
/r/MGTOW05/04/20 07:30 AM
2

My exact sentiments as well. I even hope that waitstaff who have been laid off only get support in proportion to whatever they've been reporting on their taxes when there hasn't been a pandemic. I have no problem helping the vulnerable in society, but if you're not paying your share when you're raking it in, then I have no problem with you living on cat food when it dries up
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 05:28 PM
1

It depends on demographics a lot. When I was 14 (1999/2000), I didn't know a single pregnant girl, but my 13 year old girlfriend had 3 girls in her grade who were pregnant. She lived about 45 minutes away from me. It's very possible that this shit was going on and you just weren't exposed to it.
/r/MGTOW02/04/20 06:40 PM
1

I love how people think a lifetime subscription is a good idea. Briffaults Law says once you've paid her, she doesn't need you anymore. It's stupid enough to pay $10-20 a month for this bullshit, but giving her everything upfront just means she doesn't have to "work" for your dollars anymore. Even if you want to be a simp, why would you not see the risk in your investment? Did he think she was going to be taking pictures for the next 40 years?
/r/MGTOW02/04/20 03:23 AM
3

If he was a little black girl, nobody would even care. That's not true Lots of people would care. She'd be featured on the evening news for that days feel good story about how she was empowering other girls her age for being so brave.
/r/MGTOW02/04/20 02:57 AM
1

When the victim is a male, courts don't care. When the victim is a mall, we fry 12 year olds.
/r/MGTOW02/04/20 02:55 AM
1

In her mind, she's being punished for no reason. She doesn't think she did anything wrong and is being punished for no reason. I think crying makes some level of sense if she's convinced herself that she is being wrongfully prosecuted.
/r/MGTOW02/04/20 02:52 AM
2

"But my entire life, my parents told me I was a Princess!"
/r/MGTOW01/04/20 09:19 PM
4

Yeah, that's insane Deleting the post, fine, they can have their sub rules like any other, but a ban? That's probably a mod who just got told her fertile years just ended last month.
/r/MGTOW31/03/20 09:28 PM
7

I wonder the same, but there's tons of men here who like to play with fire. This probably isn't from somebody here, but look around a few posts, a huge chunk of the men on here are on dating apps
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 07:32 PM
1

OK Let's for a second say that everything you said is correct. Maybe we could use that to justify having 8 women's bathrooms for every 7 men's or whatever ratio is appropriate based on your sources. How does ANY of this make it OK for a woman to use a bathroom clearly labelled for men, when you know full well that the opposite would be unacceptable? Your point, if valid, is only relevant when constructing and designating bathrooms - not invading one because you think it's unfair that your bladde…
/r/MensRights22/03/20 11:22 PM
91

"Not the Asshole" In that sub, people post an anecdote and ask if they are the asshole in the situation
/r/MensRights18/03/20 02:43 PM
5

I find it's easier if you show vulnerability, especially emotionally.
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 04:11 PM
6

Posts like this make me happy I've been GMOW since before everybody had their faces in a smartphone. It's not OK, but it's not my problem, because I will never be in a relationship.
/r/MGTOW14/03/20 08:53 AM
18

My mother tries this crap on me too. She does mean well. She thinks I will be happier. When people tell me I will regret not getting married when I'm older, I tell them I'll regret even more if I marry the wrong person, or end up in a situation where the courts can take away my children as well as money I have worked hard to save, negating not just my hard work as a married man, but my sacrifices even as a single man. When people insist I will need somebody in old age, I express to them that jus…
/r/MGTOW214/03/20 08:40 AM
5

BTW, women entering the men's washroom is normal at the University of Toronto. I'm grateful I graduated years ago, where does this happen? I hope they at least are decent enough to not pull this shit at Sid Smith
/r/MensRights01/03/20 09:02 PM
9

No but sometimes you have to do things you don't like to please the people you love. Spoken like a true man. This is what the feminists mean by toxic masculinity, right?
/r/MensRights01/03/20 08:59 PM
1

Precisely! People ask if I'm unhappy or lonely. Then I remind them I do what I want, when I want, if I want. Nobody has that freedom, not even the singles, because they are still worried about the chase.
/r/MGTOW27/02/20 05:57 AM
9

I don't know how to escape this You're just detoxing. Stay strong
/r/MGTOW26/02/20 05:11 PM
9

I feel weak, I feel like a simp, an offspring of a cuck. I don't know what to do. I'm genuinely scared and question my masculinity. Don't be scared! If I can give you any assurance it's that being self-aware and cautious is 80% of the solution. You're going your own way and you know AWALT. Always keep it at the back of your mind and don't get into a relationship. You're not going to be forced into marrying somebody, so it's just a matter of self-discipline. Your brothers are here for you for sup…
/r/MGTOW24/02/20 12:19 AM
9

You are sooooo right, but post that logic anywhere else on Reddit and some loser would go "found the incel" When people are full of hate (whether it be towards a race or gender) it's amazing how much mental gymnastics they'd do to justify their position.
/r/MensRights22/02/20 03:48 AM
3

How did she convince him that wearing it on his FACE lets him experience how she feels? Does he thinks that menstruation involves a week of nosebleeds?
/r/MGTOW21/02/20 02:46 PM
2

I would think that's part of legal costs that are recouped in civil cases, but I'm not going to pretend there's no bias in family courts
/r/MGTOW19/02/20 05:17 PM
3

Imagine having a brain, but still choosing to act like property
/r/MGTOW218/02/20 05:52 PM
2

Definitely know a lot of men in the "cheaper to keep her" crowd. But many of those men are also sticking around because they believe it's what's honourable. Providing a stable home for their children is a higher priority than their personal happiness. Plus they know if they pull the trigger, they're lucky if they get their kids 2 days out of every 14.
/r/MGTOW216/02/20 03:22 PM
1

Could you sue the other guy? Courts might actually make a male pay if he lost. Or was he not the father either?
/r/MGTOW15/02/20 02:58 AM
18

Yeah The only reason college age are more likely to is because they can, not because their loyalty increases with age
/r/MGTOW13/02/20 12:01 AM
2

I tell them: "Maybe you're right. That doesn't change any of the reasons I gave you to not waste my time looking for somebody. In fact, it proves that it's going to be fruitless and I should concentrate my efforts on other things." Then people feel bad until I explain to them I don't care, as I've been saying all along. After that, the reactions are interesting, sometimes even jealousy. That I can be comfortable in my own skin and not feel lonely
/r/MGTOW211/02/20 03:12 AM
5

Let's hope they keep away from each other
/r/MensRights02/02/20 10:33 AM
16

Amber Heard and Elon Musk are/were together. His previous wife married and divorced him twice allowing her to double dip into the divorce settlement fund. Whatever spare money he has and doesn't really need goes into SpaceX. If Amber Heard desperately needs $50M, it's only a small stretch to assume it will come out of humanity's space exploration budget.
/r/MensRights02/02/20 10:32 AM
19

Great! I'm glad he's getting justice, but this will set back SpaceX big time
/r/MensRights02/02/20 06:56 AM
3

Cut this girl out of your life completely If you lose your sister, whenever that is, she'll want to be part of it. Not to support you, but because she'll get the attention of having lost her boyfriend's (or whatever's) sister. You will not be able to grieve, she will pretend to be there for you, and will just be pulling you away from your family who will need you. I hope your sister has many wonderful years ahead of her, and that you get whatever support you need from less selfish people.
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 10:58 PM
6

Many men going MGTOW have gone to such an extreme, that they don't want to help anybody at any cost. They don't want their tax dollars going to support women who have made poor choices (which, hell yeah!) but over time seem to have extended that to anybody they see as not a fellow able-bodied male. This unfortunately extends to people with disabilities sometimes. You'll find that it's mainly a vocal minority, not the majority, but it can get toxic sometimes
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 05:18 AM
3

She probably convinced the poor simp that it was because he was such a good beta that he changed her mind on marriage
/r/MGTOW28/12/19 06:05 PM
2

It's not The picture is at least 2 years (I think 2 1/2) older than the mugshot. She must have done something much worse than this to have been held accountable
/r/MGTOW23/12/19 08:45 PM
6

The potential for abuse would cause insurance companies to not want to offer such a product
/r/MGTOW22/12/19 10:31 PM
2

Did you just assume her gender? /s
/r/MensRights18/12/19 09:31 PM
6

Please tell me you made that call
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 05:00 AM
14

Holy fuck 200k + What's more disturbing is that Reddit's demographic skews lower
/r/MGTOW17/12/19 11:46 PM
3

It's not "strange" This is a leech who doesn't want to have a bill to pay
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 06:06 AM
2

How can you write all that and call it a mistake? It sounds to me like the only crappy part is how much mental stress you had to deal with to make your contribution to society. We're men, that's going to happen no matter what. What you did there for your 3 months minus a day is commendable. 30 children got 3 months of a positive male role model. At least 5 of them will remember you forever. At least 12 of them probably didn't have a male role model in those 3 months aside from you. I'm sorry for…
/r/MGTOW13/12/19 06:37 PM
14

Canadian MGTOW The real way to be True, North, Strong and Free
/r/MGTOW03/12/19 09:05 PM
3

Scottie doesn't know
/r/MGTOW03/12/19 04:16 AM
7

Tyreight!
/r/MGTOW22/11/19 03:06 AM
23

She never said anything about cutting him off completely She literally said "I feel I cannot continue with this relationship." I'm not sure what world you live in where that's not cutting him off. Plus a nice gesture is just that, a nice gesture. 8-14 years of schooling is NOT a gesture, it's a sacrifice. This person was barely scraping by doing low paying jobs. And you're right, he shouldn't "expect" marriage for it. You don't do something for somebody you love expecting something specific, but…
/r/MGTOW02/11/19 10:01 PM
27

and no one should be manipulated into building a future they aren't going to be a part of.
/r/MGTOW02/11/19 09:10 PM
80

This If I ever found myself in this woman's situation, that break-up wouldn't happen without a fucking cheque in my hand - unless she was cheating, then fuck her.
/r/MGTOW02/11/19 09:09 PM
10

Best of luck I've chosen to stay single, but I know that's not the path for everyone
/r/MensRights30/10/19 04:59 PM
35

He'd probably pay her half his income to cheat for the rest of her life
/r/MensRights30/10/19 04:16 PM
1

You sound like you're still at the stage of life where you're still building yourself up. Very necessary. Pay your dues, get a good paying job, and stay on course. If you're 35 and saying the same thing, then maybe you need some advice here. If you're 22, just keep at it, the light at the end of the tunnel is near.
/r/MGTOW229/10/19 05:09 PM
1

To be fair, not yet, the saggy part was definitely starting though.
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 12:15 PM
48

I recently had somebody try after 14 years. The results were almost as comical (I didn't engage as much). She knew I was essentially MGTOW then but always assumed a tit-flash would forgive whatever she did. Didn't see that wall coming
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 05:10 PM
12

Or just be like us and don't let it start
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 04:43 AM
1

Every time I dated a girl and it didn't work, I learned something from it, and would basically restrict what was acceptable to me more and more. I did some soul-searching after my last relationship (2004), I kind of realized that the outcomes were never improving. To make matters worse, as I was getting older and older, the sacrifices I was making to be in a relationship were becoming more real. When I was 14, wasting a Saturday night with a girl who was bound to cheat wasn't going to be a big l…
/r/MGTOW226/10/19 01:45 AM
5

If only we could turn off our real empathy the way they turn on their fake empathy
/r/MensRights23/10/19 03:23 AM
8

As it should be, but there are subtle ways to get away with it Plus why break the company's perception of where your friends loyalty lies? You can't help them by doing that
/r/MensRights13/10/19 08:27 PM
17

You're lucky you didn't get in shit for telling her how much you make. If a coworker ever tells me their pay, I do not use it as leverage and throw them under the bus. I bide my time and confidently demand an increase when it's appropriate. Their name should never come up for doing me a favour
/r/MensRights13/10/19 04:04 PM
11

No, they really don't have anything else to bitch about. They've won. They wanted equality, and now they have gone so far past it, that they really need to dig deep to find things to bitch about
/r/MGTOW13/10/19 06:42 AM
17

That's momentum, or am I losing it?
/r/MGTOW13/10/19 06:13 AM
7

Actually this is how we should teach young men about marriage He traded in an appreciating asset so that she could have a depreciating asset. I can think of no better metaphor for marriage
/r/MGTOW12/10/19 02:04 AM
1

I like this response best This subreddit often points out that it's always the females who work with our children as their teachers and they never have a male influence. People in here are correct that you're taking a risk, but you're doing something you love that will benefit society. Just cover your ass properly and go do you. Those kids will be lucky to have you
/r/MGTOW211/10/19 12:28 PM
2

Sort of I think the prostitute also pretty much guarantees you'll get laid at your whim
/r/MGTOW11/10/19 04:38 AM
4

Listen to this It you do it alone, he will think you're jealous or something stupid. Not always, but it's not uncommon
/r/MGTOW06/10/19 04:21 PM
1

I don't consider myself left wing, but I have to admit that I'd rather lose an election to somebody left of my views than somebody right of my views (usually) I generally support the Canadian Liberal Party, which to me is a Centrist party, but to most American red-pilled men, would be extremely left
/r/MGTOW205/10/19 01:34 AM
18

Some are wonderful, unfortunately, there's no way to tell until it's too late.
/r/MGTOW02/10/19 11:50 AM
63

It's a CONSUMPTION tax Unless there's something I missed, women will disproportionately pay it.
/r/MGTOW01/10/19 03:49 AM
16

Why do women think they are above us and that we wouldn't survive without them? Because they are the gatekeepers to our reproduction. I for one, would love to have kids, but if I can accept that it's not going to happen, solitude is definitely my preferred state of being.
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 01:13 AM
12

You're going to love /r/pussypassdenied
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 01:08 AM
1

I tell her any time she dares to message me that if I was going after her with the same level of persistence and lack of success, I'd be in jail, but when she does it, it's supposed to be cute
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 10:45 PM
1

They're waiting at the finish line to fuck the winner Except you're awesome enough that the finish line is just your lap line. Let them bag some other sucker
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 12:52 AM
5

Volunteer somewhere Too many people here have a "I'm going my own way, so fuck society" attitude If you can find something that you can help others with that you're passionate about, take this advice. Going your own way doesn't have to mean shutting the world out.
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 12:49 AM
2

Sadly some guys like this think MGTOW is absolutely wrong. They'll defend to the death that their life is better because they found someone to love so much. I know it's easy for us to all say go your own way, but I don't think everyone is wired to be able to
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 12:47 AM
3

When I was in high school, I'd ask my friends why they wear makeup, it seems to be a waste of time, and the response I got most often was "we don't do it for guys, we do it for other girls" They pressure themselves to look a certain way to make their peers jealous
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 01:49 PM
13

Not in India The number of selective sex abortions that have taken place basically guarantees that women can be every type of bad idea and somebody will still be thirsty enough to feel lucky to have her
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 01:22 PM
4

This happened to me 15 years ago I called her a whore and moved on with my life. Cue the wall, she found me last year and wants to spend the rest of her life with me. I kind of feel bad though. I was trying to explain that she had nothing left to offer me; last she contacted me was a selfie in a boot and crutches, apparently was overdoing it at the gym and hurt herself. She wanted to be young and beautiful again, so I could still have some of her peak years if I cave. But hey, at least she got a…
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 01:23 PM
2

I assumed joke because garbage men don't usually have high status
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 02:20 PM
1

I went through this shit for SEVEN WEEKS as a teenager and went MGTOW. I hated how I just accepted it at the time and swore never again. 16 years later....life is awesome
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 02:18 PM
1

An independent woman is seen as a woman doing more than one what an average woman could/would. A man not supporting a woman is seen as a man doing less than what an average man could/would
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 04:38 AM
1

Oddly, in my case, the grandmothers suggest it and when I tell them I'm not planning to, they turn it around and tell me how smart I am. The boomer generation and younger though pretty much see it as a natural course of life
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 04:20 AM
3

Let's join our hands in prayer that it's a divorce lawyer
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 04:16 AM
8

Imagine the feminists if a woman posted "My husband let me...."
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 04:15 AM
16

Women don't care about the struggle They just want to stand at the finish line and fuck the winners. She waited at the finish line and saw the tortoise win the race and always loved turtles! I'm impressed she admitted remembering being against it. Many women would take credit for having been there when it all started
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 04:10 AM
32

She only upgraded twice in 15 years She's one of the good ones.
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 04:42 AM
1

Fuck man Even if I was a beta, this shit would be enough for me to toss her on her ass.
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 04:24 AM
51

Lucky the video got to him somehow There's a vigilante hero somewhere
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 04:16 AM
35

So much this. We can call women dumb as much as we want, but they do this shit because it works. No vagina is worth your self-respect
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 11:33 PM
3

Yeah, but shareholders need to vote him out, and all of the female sharehold...oh yeah, he's screwed
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 08:30 PM
5

How the fuck do you do this? How does a person be so emotionally detached that they can physically prevent a baby (let alone their own) from getting air long enough to die? Whether she strangled them or put a bag on their head or whatever...how evil must somebody be to not feel compelled to stop for the minute or two it takes to do that? This is sickening, and I'd love for her sentence to be what she put her children through.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 09:56 PM
1

Reverse the genders and the man would have been told to "man up"
/r/MGTOW231/07/19 07:29 PM
2

While she's waiting for Mr. Right, she's going to have sexual needs to satisfy. She'll meet a jobless loser in a club, accidentally get impregnated, and our tax dollars will pay for her dream....and she still won't be satisfied
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 02:24 PM
1

Maybe I'm unique, but I never feel lonely. There are times in fact where I kind of wish I could be alone, just for a short period like a weekend of not leaving the house. The thing is, I do a lot of things, and I enjoy doing a lot of things that force me to interact with people. I'm going my own way in that I am not doing it TO meet people, nor do I want a partner, but between hobbies and volunteering and even hanging out with people at work, I'm generally relieved to be home alone for a little …
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 05:39 PM
7

I had trouble finding one that isnt
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 01:50 AM
1

You may have mentioned women in a post without insulting them
/r/MGTOW225/07/19 05:14 PM
4

How is it ridiculous? It's very obvious that bringing out a steak took much more time and energy and attention than bringing out chicken tenders. And your glass of coke? That was heavier than my glass of water...But not as heavy as my beer! So we have to tip by percentage of the bill, no other way could possibly make sense, especially not just including an appropriate price of labour into the price of the food
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 04:52 AM
2

Well duh Her feelings trump your facts 11 times out of 10. Things are only true if she feels like they're true.
/r/MensRights22/07/19 04:47 AM
2

It has to be, that's what keeps it going
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 12:25 AM
2

I agree with your sentiments But if she suddenly us faced with the prospect of having to pay child support, she may suddenly want custody. If you want to keep your kids, the best thing she can do is fuck off and not care. I do agree he needs to get his shit together to be a good father
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 04:58 AM
2

I have to give the commenters their due I didn't see a single dumbass saying it's the guys fault and that it's his job to be there for her, etc. Everybody is saying dump the bitch
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 11:35 PM
1

It's Men going their own way If that's what you are, then that's what you are. Don't let that sub or this one tell you that you're not, because you're not going your own way their way. Are you a Man going your own way? Then you're a MGTOW whether you fit a stereotype or not. I myself decided to go my own way at 18. The only reason I don't suggest it to people that young is that if you've never had a girlfriend, you may think you're missing something when you're older. You know what you had, didn…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 04:32 AM
4

The comments in the original thread are actually suggesting men are starting to wake up.
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 03:01 AM
5

I feel bad for that man too Not just for being stuck with a loser, but because he clearly didn't value himself enough to think this was an unacceptable deal. This won't stop as long as not good enough is good enough
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 03:05 AM
3

Same reason people smoke when they know you can get cancer "That happens to other people!"
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 02:25 AM
6

Toxic Masculinity /s
/r/MGTOW30/06/19 04:51 AM
39

Maybe not...but they will one day! That's why people like this are heroes. They're doing something good, knowing it's good, even though they themselves may never see the fruits of their labour.
/r/MensRights23/06/19 03:08 AM
1

Only a few people will succeed, but every woman trying probably thinks it will be her someday, they just need to keep pushing the envelope more and more. Most of these women see prostitution as a last resort, be it morally or physically, so they're not going to just go "awww fuck, I only made $40 off twitch this week, better go rent out my vagina!' By the time they are ready to give up and cross that line, they are older and probably the 4/10's that OP describes So the fact that it exists, even …
/r/MGTOW213/06/19 02:04 PM
1

I actually went MGTOW because I felt I had much better purpose than looking for a partner who may or may not mess up my life, and waste a ton of my time in the process The guys who lose purpose when they went MGTOW probably didn't have much purpose beforehand anyway. Some will find some, others only think they are MGTOW, but are probably just frustrated There may be exceptions, but I think most men who go MGTOW start off with "Fuck this shit, I have better things to do"
/r/MGTOW202/06/19 03:38 PM
2

I don't want to argue because I mostly agree But how do you suggest society handle the situation where a paternity test concludes the husband is not the father, but there are no leads as to who is? I think it's easy to agree that the husband is off the hook financially, and it should be grounds for divorce, but then what? Does the woman need to pass some income test to keep the child? Do we need more foster homes? Do we keep a DNA database of everybody so we always know who the father is? I'm ac…
/r/MGTOW28/05/19 10:51 PM
7

Thats the shit guys gotta start doing for each other instead of trying to get your dick wet. Amen
/r/MGTOW28/05/19 06:35 PM
14

Sounds like his friend would probably not believe him
/r/MGTOW28/05/19 06:23 PM
0

I wish I had known about it earlier! I just checked it out after seeing it in your post. I too like it here, but I find there's a great deal of douchiness sometimes. Heaven forbid you don't hate women enough or don't call somebody a cuck for working with one.
/r/MGTOW24/05/19 01:05 PM
1

This woman should only get 4 years of rent and groceries plus the cost of tuition at a community college as her payment. She stayed at home on a collective decision, she should get SOMETHING, but she cheated, she should only get enough to not be a welfare queen. If after 4 years, she can't support herself beyond minimum wage, then she learns to live on minimum wage + whatever free meals she can get from having a vagina
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 01:35 AM
5

If you can save a few hundred thousand in alimony and "equalization" payments, every man will pay for those things
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 01:30 AM
3

They know they hold all the cards. They just keep asking for more and more and more, and if the NBA ever says, "Wait a minute, we're no longer getting return on our investment" they'll be a bunch of misogynists. I actually think it's nice that they provide support. I think if nothing else, they should at least allow women's leagues to use them as a marketing platform (I also feel the same way about minor leagues too - grow the sport and the fanbase by promoting leagues that in no way will ever c…
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 12:10 AM
2

You better not get banned, you were extremely civil So much so, that there's probably jerks on THIS subreddit who would call you a cuck for it. I applaud your patience and demeanor
/r/MGTOW02/05/19 11:10 PM
9

future The future is now! Check out tennis Also the WNBA has some deal, but I don't know the details. I think it's kind of like alimony with the NBA
/r/MGTOW02/05/19 09:26 PM
6

Agreed My biggest problem with this story was how his wife just completely undermined him Poor guy saw his daughter growing up too fast and panicked. His wife should have been more tactful
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 02:07 PM
2

8.6% of refuse collectors are women? That seems a lot higher than my anecdotal observations
/r/MGTOW28/04/19 04:34 PM
4

You beat me :( I had one after 14 years try to come back. She was angry when she got rejected. "You said you'd love me forever" Bitch, that was assuming you weren't going to cheat. She knew I was leaning MGTOW when we met, so it was no shock that I was now. In fact, she was happy that I hadn't been in a relationship this whole time. Same problem as well. Wants to lure me with sex, hasn't taken care of herself and is 40s and hitting the wall. I say hitting instead of hit, because even in pictures…
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 03:08 PM
15

This is the correct answer She will think your pressing charges is how you fight for her, and may lead to her hanging on a little longer, but trash stays on the curb
/r/MGTOW21/04/19 02:59 AM
5

I wonder if there's any chance the girl has told her parents that he can afford it and they should ask for the moon. She could "intervene" get it down to 60 and he might actually be excited to pay it. I'm not Chinese, but my parents are the type where it it was tradition, they'd demand it, and then instantly use it against the principal on my mortgage
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 02:34 PM
17

I wonder how many convinced themselves they are lesbians because of how much they actually hate men
/r/MensRights20/04/19 02:06 PM
0

I'm sorry about your poor reading comprehension you fucking retard.
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 07:17 AM
0

If they have to pass the same standards, they can handle the job. If you think that's not true, then the standard is the issue, and that impacts the males too.
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 07:12 AM
9

Honestly, if they have to pass the same standards, I don't care of they're women. In fact, I can see the advantage of having a few. The problem is when standards aren't equal...to promote equality
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 03:25 AM
1

Lots of guys, if forced to choose between that and divorce-rape may see it as the lesser of two evils
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 03:21 AM
2

Holy crap Things are changing, it wasn't long ago that these posts and those comments would have been downvoted out of visibility or deleted People are starting to wake up
/r/MGTOW19/04/19 05:21 PM
1

She needs a fucking economics class. The incels are her target market
/r/MGTOW16/04/19 10:41 PM
42

Why the fuck is she mad? 16% of 20000 is still 3000 losers who are willing to pay up. If any car manufacturer put up that poll and got 16% their stock would double Dumbass
/r/MGTOW16/04/19 12:24 PM
16

I'm loving this thread A lot of people in there actually UNDERSTANDING exactly what happens to men in this situation and how screwed up it is.
/r/MensRights13/04/19 06:20 AM
38

Or just don't be dumb enough to get involved I agree this is awful, but it won't affect me
/r/MGTOW13/04/19 04:24 AM
9

When one goes their own way, they are deciding to not rely on and leech from others. This gets applauded. When another goes their own way, they are deciding to not allow somebody else to leech from them. Society has conditioned most people to believe that they have a responsibility to allow somebody to be a leech, so this is viewed as selfish behaviour. It might be unfair, but I do get it. I'm OK with people I don't want around having the false preconception that I'm selfish though.
/r/MGTOW12/04/19 08:55 PM
9

Block, Ignore, Ghost. Seems like an easy acronym for people who want to be the BIGger man
/r/MGTOW29/03/19 12:21 PM
3

You know what's sad? I read one sentence of each paragraph and know exactly what happened... because I've heard this shit too many times
/r/MGTOW28/03/19 03:26 AM
10

I was married for the majority of my 20s I'm sorry for you. Happy it ended well!
/r/MGTOW22/03/19 01:34 PM
3

This sucks I would like to think your boss and your family know you well enough to not assume the worst without any real evidence. Why does your ex know who your boss is? The only reason is if you work for a small company that you've worked for, for a long time. If you have changed jobs, or work at a large company, with enough restructuring, she shouldn't be sure who your boss is. ​ Lastly, when this passes. Be grateful that your ex is threatening you. It could be worse...she could still be your…
/r/MGTOW15/03/19 12:32 AM
49

You're not a pussy - you're the exact opposite. I am MGTOW primarily because I know full well I would do exactly what you're doing. Put up with the abuse just to be a present Dad. Once your son is in his teens, he will be free to make an informed choice, as to where he wants to be. Once he's 18, the courts can go fuck themselves. Hang tough, life will start at 50 for you, that does suck, but if you take good care of yourself, you'll have 20 great years and a best friend through it all. I'd love …
/r/MGTOW10/03/19 05:11 PM
1

You got lucky. If you hit the 10 year mark you’d be paying her alimony all the money. FTFY
/r/MGTOW01/03/19 03:10 PM
1

I tell a lot of younger men that even though MGTOW is the way to go, not to follow my example until adulthood. I've seen too many men have ZERO success with girls in high school and then grow up to be the thirstiest simps out there. Get it out of your system when you have very little to lose, and don't grow up to be a lonely 26 year old.
/r/MGTOW26/02/19 03:17 PM
3

Oddly, having that much money, you wouldn't even have to buy them dinner first
/r/MGTOW23/02/19 11:41 PM
1

That, but with a striploin and on my recliner
/r/MGTOW23/02/19 11:35 PM
2

Not me I don't want to tell somebody else HOW to go their own way, because that's stupid. But for me, I refuse to put any effort into attracting women. No time, no money, no energy. If somebody still wanted something casual despite that, I could see myself entertaining the situation you describe, but nobody is tripping over themselves to get to a guy who doesn't give a fuck and won't open his wallet.
/r/MGTOW23/02/19 11:34 PM
2

If you yell loud enough and are female, the consequences are taken away for you
/r/MGTOW21/02/19 12:47 AM
3

Easy to say, but we live in a society where she could screw you over for that. If she calls the police and makes up any exaggeration, you're in shit Live alone and be awesome
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 06:54 PM
3

As fucking usual, it's the man who ends up having to leave, which is the first step in securing the cash and prizes in a divorce
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 03:19 PM
5

No government would agree to that You'd be punishing a child for being born to a whore. Unfortunately, the thought of "is the child better off with a single father than a single mother on welfare?" Will never be entertained. So taking the child away from that situation is even more difficult
/r/MGTOW16/02/19 08:09 PM
6

But it's an investment! (In another simp's paycheque)
/r/MGTOW10/02/19 07:34 AM
1

Well you see, when I got pregnant once as a teenager, I didn't see a problem with where my life was going....so I did it again!
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 01:35 PM
11

The #MeToo movement has been very powerful
/r/MGTOW27/01/19 08:55 AM
3

"I can absolutely go through life without getting hurt. I take risks any time the expected benefit exceeds the cost. Show me a girl where the probability of success combined with the value she adds to my life is worth the risk and I'll be the first one to sign up. Keeping in mind that my life is fucking awesome and I'm not in need of any sort of companionship nor do I have a void to fill. I endure virtually no pain, and I'm happier than you are." - My response every time I know there's a huge si…
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 11:50 PM
43

This I don't want to do anything to them or have them feel unwelcome or get revenge or anything like that. I just don't want to spend my life chasing them, and I don't want to be part of a society in which my rights come after their desires.
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 11:40 PM
1

They do stand up for each other, it gets censored
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 05:43 AM
4

3 people have recommended Dollar Shave Club, why not just go to their supplier? Dorco I find the blades to be higher quality than Gillette when brand new, just not as durable, but with the price difference, worth it. I go through blades at 1.5x the speed, but pay 1/4 the price
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 04:35 AM
3

Agreed He came to the right place. Clearly not going his own way yet, and maybe never will, but I never understood the obsession with ignoring men who haven't gotten there yet in this subreddit. Tell him he's playing with fire and move on :)
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 03:32 AM
1

I could never do such a thing to sabotage my future People then insist I need to reconsider the benefits of getting married I tell them I will when I'm very very old, so if I outlive her, I can collect her pension
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 03:07 AM
1

Oh... You think she'll be charged
/r/MGTOW23/01/19 03:33 AM
8

Not just you I feel like it was very recently people were excited to hit 40000 subscribers
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 06:35 AM
2

It's funny, how sometimes I read threads in other subreddits about how awesome somebody's partner has been, and then I open it and find out it's a gay dude
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 10:26 PM
3

I'm impressed that none of the comments are defending her behaviour
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 09:25 AM
4

And a piece of your future income too
/r/MGTOW17/01/19 05:35 AM
1

Thanks for the insight This seems to be a cultural issue
/r/MGTOW23/12/18 01:47 PM
2

Question: do you think it's the fact that they are military wives, or do you think it's a certain type of woman that drives their husband to join the military? I imagine there's a lot of instances of young men seeing the military as the only way they can support a family on a single income with a wife that doesn't work. I wonder if these men are enlisting because of their relationship situation more than it is women turning into certain types because their husbands are enlisted. I think a lot of…
/r/MGTOW23/12/18 03:48 AM
1

33, MGTOW since 18, so maybe not as old as you're looking for. I never feel lonely day to day. I never come home and wish somebody else was there. I never wish I had somebody by my side, but a lot of that is because I'm out doing things and making a difference whether it be in the workplace, in the community or just having experiences I desire to ever feel lonely. I know I would appreciate a partner in that if the TradCon lifestyle was real, sure I'd love somebody who completes me and I can lean…
/r/MGTOW23/12/18 03:18 AM
6

It wouldn't be hard to manipulate If I go to the grocery store, I'm buying groceries for me and my child, and putting it all on one card. It's not practical to split purchases because most items will be prepared and cooked and then split into portions to eat. So yeah, if I'm buying booze or something, maybe a Child Support Credit Card would be invalid, but otherwise, there's no real way to disassociate. Regardless of what you do, when you give the other person money, you are freeing them up to s…
/r/MensRights17/12/18 08:56 PM
1

I send links using lmgtfy to any question anybody asks me that's easy to google I'm happy to help people who need advice or a well thought out answer, but in the days of WiFi everywhere and Google knowing everything, some shit doesn't need to be asked
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 07:35 AM
5

You're absolutely right Good on her! I think OP was posting more because the post was made by her fiance, and the risk/reward profile for that man and this situation is one most people here would avoid. I'm proud of anybody who overcomes addiction issues and turns their life around. Would I want to be engaged to them? Tough sell
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 07:32 AM
0

Then fewer of them will happen and more men will be on the hook for child support
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 04:00 PM
13

"Fine, I promise I won't divorce you!"
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 02:50 AM
5

It wouldn't cost so much if it wasn't worth it!
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 02:49 AM
24

We got this! Close that "wage gap" by having all income reported
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 02:30 AM
15

"Gender fluidity" They don't want lawsuits from people who don't identify as male or female. It's cheaper to screw one gender over than get a 3rd bathroom. Want to guess which gender they picked?
/r/MensRights07/10/18 05:19 PM
68

She is paying it back! ...at a rate that will take him 45 years to get it all back. Funny if it was the other way, he'd owe her interest, but no mention of it here.
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 06:49 AM
6

You're a wonderful friend and I would hit send. However I think you're going to get a biased opinion in this subreddit. If those invitations have already gone out, then I think you're going to see that he's just like 99% of other men who are not going to cancel their wedding, and feel "in for a penny, in for a pound." The best your email can do at this point is probably caused him to be more vigilant during his marriage and be more willing to bail out at the first sign of trouble. Best of luck t…
/r/MGTOW01/09/18 04:01 PM
1

33 myself, I'm grateful that I've always been a very foresightful person. e.g. saving for tuition from a very young age with all my birthday money, etc So once I had enough girlfriends to know AWALT my mind was made up.
/r/MGTOW19/08/18 03:36 AM
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I went MGTOW at 18 (almost 19) People used to ask me how I could be so sure this is what I wanted in life. I said, I know I won't regret it at 20 I know I won't regret it at 30 I won't regret it at 40 I probably won't regret it at 50 I may or may not regret it at 60 Should I suffer for 40 years for a maybe? I live alone now, and coming home, locking the door and knowing I don't need to interact with the outside world for the rest of the day gives me peace of mind.
/r/MGTOW18/08/18 02:14 PM
0

Grateful! I've never liked seeing dicks in porn
/r/MGTOW13/08/18 07:53 PM
6

This is what I was thinking as I typed it It's not that they are jealous of what they see. It's exactly like I have a superpower. The way I would feel if I knew someone who could fly
/r/MGTOW28/07/18 06:52 PM
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I don't think it's just about smarter Many men I talk to about the philosophy of GYOW not only totally get it, but I sometimes see a level of envy. They're not jealous of my life and freedom in itself; my life and freedom is more proof that I'm right. The envy I pick up on feels more like they're jealous that I have the strength of character to not need a woman. I actually think they'd be less envious if I was a Chad picking up girls as I please, because the men on the plantation usually see tha…
/r/MGTOW28/07/18 06:15 PM
14

It's certainly possible If you have a job with fluctuating income (like one based on commissions), the courts assume that you are always capable of earning your highest ever income and are likely just sabotaging yourself to mess with the child support formulas. Also, it doesn't really take much for child support + alimony to run you into a deficit. If you live in a city where it takes 60+% of your income to just provide the bare essentials (food, clothing, shelter) for one person, do you really …
/r/MGTOW28/07/18 02:52 PM
6

Not really man A lot of women these days have big boobs, they're often big enough to cover a stomach roll
/r/MensRights27/07/18 02:06 AM
1

Because the post said sperm bank, but you have a valid point
/r/MGTOW15/07/18 04:50 PM
2

If he divorced her before the child was born, could he safely walk away as not the father? Also do they allow single women to get artificially inseminated? They don't allow single parents to adopt, I would think they wouldn't allow single parents to conceive, but then they'd need his signoff too. If that's true, could the clinic be held responsible for the child instead of the husband?
/r/MGTOW14/07/18 09:04 PM
15

But she deserves half! No way he could have made all that money playing basketball if she wasn't making her contribution!
/r/MGTOW13/07/18 03:35 PM
1

Sometimes it does feel like it's just a place to bash women, but whenever I post something reasonable and rational, I do get a lot of support. I don't discriminate against women at all, I just refuse to allow one to destroy my life, an option our society has handed her with no consequence, and if someone wants to call me sexist, fuck them, I wouldn't marry a man either!
/r/MensRights11/07/18 09:09 PM
4

I'm semi-active there myself Let me just warn you, don't let the hive-mind swing you too far to the opposite extreme. There's a lot of people with very extreme views, but we're mostly good men who are just sick of bullshit :)
/r/MensRights11/07/18 08:44 PM
8

I've noticed this as well, but assumed it was just that the women I find physically attractive are getting older as I age too
/r/MGTOW08/07/18 09:26 PM
2

MGTOW or not, this shit belongs on /r/funny
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 11:21 PM
25

Part of it I'm sure is the refusal of many women to "commit" to somebody who makes less than they do. The more you make, the smaller that pool gets, and the wealthier a man gets, the more youth, beauty and fertility he wants to buy. If women were capable of loving men simply for who they were, this would be a much smaller industry
/r/MensRights02/07/18 08:22 PM
1

I look at my life as a whole. Let's assume the worst case scenario and suggest that MGTOW is wrong and we're just idiots for the sake of this exercise. Look at what you've achieved (including savings), the skills you've developed and what your future looks like. Compare that against your peers that are the same age, but seem able to attract/keep a mate. Would you trade EVERYTHING you have for EVERYTHING they have? Intelligence, interpersonal skills, money, responsibilities, mental state in an ev…
/r/MGTOW28/06/18 07:24 PM
5

This! When that becomes acceptable as humour, then I will find this picture funny as well. I'm sure the intent of the poster was a lame attempt at humour, maybe he staged the scene himself thinking it'd be funny, but people would lose their shit if everyone in the picture switched genders while maintaining social status
/r/MGTOW24/06/18 06:40 PM
2

I know it's happened on occasion, but I don't think it's as generous as it would be if the genders would reversed. Although your point stands, receiving something small is still better than having to pay
/r/MGTOW24/06/18 03:47 PM
10

If not for Briffaults Law, this is the most financially prudent thing to do as she could technically replace the money much faster than she could have paid down the loan. The question is will she? I don't know either party, but my thought is anybody willing to spend 50K without even a conversation, even if towards a necessary expense probably won't feel there's any need to contribute. Legally it was communal money, and he's a man, so best case scenario he walks away with nothing
/r/MGTOW24/06/18 03:21 PM
1

The judge won't give a man alimony, he will just be told to man up and get a job. Best case scenario is slightly lower child support payments
/r/MGTOW24/06/18 03:12 PM
2

For sure Your wife has ensured your life is going to suck for the next 15 or so years, doesn't mean your kids lives need to suck too. Your main "fight" is to make sure that their mother doesn't tell them shit about how Daddy left because he doesn't love them anymore
/r/MGTOW22/06/18 12:41 PM
1

He means either stop working so you have no money to pay child support or alimony; or kill her, be sentenced to 20 years and deal with that, to avoid what your fate should otherwise be.
/r/MGTOW22/06/18 12:19 PM
3

So these women are great. They look like unicorns and in many ways they are. They're a tradcon's wet dream, they're not the type to monkey branch, you trust them to be good mothers to your children when you're not present, and they'll often pull their weight in the marriage. They seem to almost defy AWALT. The problem isn't all the things that usually bother us about women, it's that in order to be this way, 2 things need to happen: They need to be raised in a manner to behave this way - and thi…
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 01:37 AM
3

I'm assuming it's that in the last couple of days, people have been posting pictures of their motorcycles here kind of just saying "No woman bringing me down, so look at the fun I'm having." Then some dudes without motorcycles started posting their cars to join in the fun. It's a fad. It's funny for a couple of days - much like a trending hashtag on Twitter. It'll stop by the weekend I'm sure. I'm guessing OP thinks that they are beta incels trying to show off how nice their possessions are to s…
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 01:16 AM
4

Honestly, when younger and more about looking for a partner, I too felt sex, even as a male was meant to bond with a specific partner, and not just to get my rocks off at every opportunity. So my personal belief system put male virginity and female virginity equally. However, in traditional societies, for a female to stay a virgin took a lot of self-discipline, and commitment to her traditional views - these are virtuous traits, For a male to be a non-virgin took confidence - which is also a vir…
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 01:01 AM
14

They think that we don't like them having had many partners because that's more men that we need to try to be better than at sex. If she's had 1 before you, there's a 50/50 shot, if she's had 99 before you, there's a 1% chance of you being her "best". We all have our reasons to not like it, but it's generally along the lines of what it says about her than fear of bruising our egos. Most women, although possibly capable of understanding that, won't take the time to assume it's anything other than…
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 12:44 AM
9

Some do, but that's not really solving the problem they have. Yeah they probably want their balls drained like most men, but they want somebody to want to -much like women need orbiters. In many cases, I don't even think the problem goes that far. The problem is 99% of women won't acknowledge a man even socially if she doesn't think he's a viable sexual partner. These men get treated like dirt just for saying hello in an elevator, don't get invited to social gatherings amongst what they feel is …
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 06:31 PM
1

I actually get pissed when a girl asks me out. If it's obviously a date, I'm quite clear about being MGTOW, but they usually make it look like it's just social, so I will go with it if we're on social terms. I'm not Chad, so 2/3 of the time, she cancels the last minute. I have shit to do. True, I never cancel plans to socialize, but I do keep that date free once I agree to it, and my calendar is stuffed.
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 05:20 AM
6

I gave up women at 18, I'm 32 today, and I've spent more time volunteering than most people ever will in their entire life. I've progressed to a point in my career that I think fewer than 20% ever manage, and I won't get to the top because I'll be retired within the earliest 5% of the population. I've built closer and longer lasting friendships than most people ever will in their lifetimes. If I died today, the only place I'd fall short compared to a typical old dude in terms of not having had a…
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 05:12 AM
5

Don't take it so personally if they're as good daughters as you say. I was with my dad today, as I am every Sunday, and there was no real compulsion to say "Happy Father's Day" neither of us cared that it's Father's Day, our relationship is such that the date on the calendar doesn't really change anything. I'm optimistically hoping for your sake that your daughter's feel the same. And if I'm way off...that's OK too. You're a dad who made all the sacrifices necessary to make the next generation b…
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 03:07 AM
1

"You're probably right! And if you are, then no woman deserves to have to go through what my immaturity would put her through. So either way, staying single is the way to go" Ironically, that's seen as a very mature attitude
/r/MGTOW17/06/18 03:28 PM
2

I have to respectfully disagree. If a Top 30 player in the NBA couldn't go to a good college, or a Top 30 in the NHL couldn't play Junior hockey, or anything similar of the sort, I'd accept that they probably still would have made pro because of their talent eventually, but that player would likely be of a slightly lower calibre as a result. They might be the 5th or 6th best guy on their team instead of a star. The game would have one less superstar. This guy will still make something of himself…
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 12:09 PM
7

She didn't just destroy his life either. I personally have no appreciation for clarinet music, but I still feel the world is worse off when somebody of that level in any field is unable to develop their talents. Fans of symphonies he could have been in are now being deprived of something they might appreciate.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 02:59 AM
1

Honestly, I'd rather they spend the money on their salaries to pay me better, provide free lunches and keep my hardware top of the line...that would motivate me a lot more than having a pretty girl to look at, and that was true in my case long before I was a MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW15/06/18 02:46 AM
2

I do I'm in your camp, but we all have different ways of going our own way, whether it's monk mode, masturbation, hiring professionals or living on the edge (I find the last one stupid). But I think anything that contributes positively to this space is helpful!
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 03:12 AM
2

At 19, this may not be financially feasible for everyone, but the point stands. It is cheaper to rent than to buy.
/r/MGTOW13/06/18 12:23 PM
2

Picture is inaccurate...that road would never have been surfaced in the first place
/r/MGTOW10/06/18 01:26 AM
3

Really? Just like you in every way but better? To a woman, that's a rival To a man, that's a mentor You've found someone who can help you improve and has enough in common with you that your presence won't be a bother to him. He will probably enjoy your company and you'll be the beneficiary of that. Be happy that you're MGTOW and don't have someone at home stopping you from hanging out with your new friend?
/r/MGTOW04/06/18 04:09 PM
23

This won't be a popular opinion here, but I'd say let the kid determine that. Offer to be a friend, if his mother allows it, be a friend. Feeding the kid a Happy Meal on his birthday isn't going to break the bank, and if it feels like the right thing to do, do it. Don't push too hard or she'll think you're using the kid to keep HER in your life...which you're hopefully not doing. If she doesn't agree, move on. We can and should be role models to everyone around us young and old, but this child i…
/r/MGTOW03/06/18 09:51 PM
2

It's not cheating! We were broken up for 14 hours!
/r/MGTOW03/06/18 08:13 PM
6

While your sentiments are accurate, not all men are fortunate enough to see the light before it's too late
/r/MGTOW01/06/18 09:41 PM
2

Never hold it against the guy unless he knew As for fighting, it proves nothing. If he didn't know, he doesn't deserve a fight; if he did, he's a scumbag and it's not worth giving the girl any satisfaction that she's worth a fight. For FOR those you love, not over them - and don't fight for someone who doesn't love you back. Fight for your kids, fight for your pets, not some bitch who cheated on you.
/r/MGTOW01/06/18 09:39 PM
4

Probably But I do see a lot of couples these days where the actual wedding/date of marriage is irrelevant and it's more when they get around to it. After all, common law and having children gives women everything they want these days
/r/MGTOW01/06/18 09:15 PM
7

Only if he sells OP out
/r/MGTOW01/06/18 06:11 PM
13

She may have deceived him into believing it was a low probability of pregnancy otherwise
/r/MGTOW01/06/18 06:11 PM
2

I did not say "suddenly", in fact I said quite the opposite. One day, an extreme will be hit, and people will be desperate to resolve it. If fathers don't have rights, one day, there won't be enough people willing to be fathers. Something will have to give. Maybe it gets worse from that point before it gets better, maybe there's a technological solution, I don't know. What I do know is that we are on an unstable trajectory, and that's all I was saying. No sudden epiphany, and certainly nothing t…
/r/MGTOW30/05/18 05:02 AM
4

Unfortunately, this can only change through two avenues 1) The hive mind realizing the problem and being vocal. This will influence judicial decisions where subjectivity is involved. I am optimistic that this will happen, but I don't think it will be soon enough for anyone here right now to benefit 2) Lawmakers stepping in and enforcing fairness. I can't see this happening sooner than the above. Society is still more obsessed with the quantity of women in and running for office, than they care a…
/r/MGTOW30/05/18 04:48 AM
32

And in some cases with a new guy footing her part of the bill with a second income too, so often it's worse than 70% less. Good luck to you
/r/MGTOW30/05/18 04:40 AM
2

I'd like to give you my heart felt congratulations
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 08:17 PM
16

We don't know that for a fact, depends on how attractive OP is
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 08:33 PM
98

There's a lot of guys in here whose hate on women is more extreme than I personally find appropriate. I've NEVER seen a post here where a man wishes harm on his daughter, real or hypothetical. Ironically, refusing to breed male children will just put their own daughters in a race to the bottom for the rare male attention available later
/r/MGTOW24/05/18 06:17 PM
1

The lodging is the worst The prices are for double occupancy, so you end up paying a lot more than you otherwise would, and as you get older, some hostels may not be so keen on taking you. Cruise ships are starting to have single rooms, but when you do your research, you find the price is still 1.6x what it would be for a regular double occupancy room. And singles themed vacations are still very focused on "meeting people" and hooking up. Everything else, is awesome! Especially if you're a foodi…
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 04:31 AM
6

The weirdest adjustments were going on a vacation by myself and going to a sporting event by myself I don't do either frequently just because of time constraints, but once I got over both, it hasn't been a problem Dining alone has never felt odd, but it depends on the setting, but I'd never go to a place where it felt odd to be alone, even if not dining alone
/r/MGTOW22/05/18 08:10 PM
2

I do something quite similar actually, it's called growth investing. Look for a company that's poised to hit it big someday, and get rewarded if and when they do. If they don't, you move on to the next one
/r/MGTOW22/05/18 04:22 PM
3

Me too, man I'd love to have kids, and honestly, I'm not against the concept of marriage either. If there existed a woman worthy of sharing my life with, I'd do it. I don't even believe AWALT as wholistically as the rest of this sub does, but there's no test. A woman can seem perfect until the ring goes on, or until the first or second kid pops out, and then show her true colours - then what? Bye bye half the equity in my home, 2/3 of my paycheque and I get my children twice a month while her bo…
/r/MGTOW22/05/18 04:19 PM
5

I think we're living in a "What have you done for me lately?" world. It's not limited to relationships, we as a people have shorter attention spans, have become more selfish and refuse to be loyal out of belief that the other party is not loyal. Mostly this is manifesting in the workplace. However, you also see it in Finance (focus on the quarterly results, not long term sustainable growth), Politics (lose an election, especially one you were expecting to win, and the people and party think your…
/r/MGTOW22/05/18 03:54 PM
1

What happens when 200 million women only want the same 4 million men?
/r/MGTOW20/05/18 07:52 PM
6

The funny thing is they don't really do anything. I can recall two experiences in recent history where I was THE perfect candidate for a job, and in both cases, my resume was tossed before even being looked at by a human. I know it's easy to suggest that I may be the best candidate, but in the first case, the specifications were so specific, that I'd know anybody else who is remotely qualified...and the job was reposted 3 weeks later. The second case, my resume was ignored and then 3 months late…
/r/MGTOW20/05/18 07:48 PM
6

I'm not white myself, but even I think this has gone too far. Gender and race should not impact hiring decisions. That should be true whether it works in favour or against whites or non-whites, or males or females. If there's a discrepancy like women not wanting to go into tech fields, or men not wanting to be nurses, that needs to be looked at as a society as a whole. If you want more women CEOs, then more women need to be in a position to BE CEOs, that means they need to have a fair chance of …
/r/MGTOW20/05/18 03:23 PM
3

Not yet. They can only get to the men that voluntarily associate with them... that's not enough!
/r/MGTOW20/05/18 02:58 PM
8

On gender studies, really? Do corporations not have higher standards? Is there an HR certification process? If so, what are the pre-requisites for that? I'm all for gender equality, I really am, but if gender studies is sufficient enough on its own as a path to HR, our schools or our corporations really need to smarten up
/r/MGTOW20/05/18 02:56 PM
4

Damn, so much this Last time I met a girl who didn't want to take "I'm GMOW" as an answer without at least making a genuine effort just couldn't wrap her head around the fact that just because I was exactly the ideal partner for her, that the reverse wasn't just magically true by default. She couldn't get it. It was all about what was in it for her and couldn't wrap her head around the fact that, that's not all it takes to be in a relationship, that she needs to be an improvement on my being sin…
/r/MGTOW20/05/18 02:50 PM
10

You're right, I did But what happens to those people when they're in their 30s? Are they still there? Or have they usually become alimony cases by then? I'm not a coffee drinker, but I always imagine baristas to be relatively young
/r/MGTOW20/05/18 02:30 PM
39

3% can teach gender studies 97% can collect unemployment and alimony
/r/MGTOW20/05/18 02:14 PM
19

I want to be as optimistic as you are, but I think it will take a couple of generations. Society as a whole will be too slow to figure out what the problem really is and they'll probably try tax incentives or something else to encourage more children, even if it means the same amount of women just having more babies. The other problem is, for different reasons, India and China have spent a whole generation taking measures to only have male children. There are close to a quarter billion men who a…
/r/MGTOW19/05/18 02:31 PM
10

I love these I start telling them about my life and also discuss things I don't need to do. They end up scaling back to "OK, you don't need to get married, but don't you want somebody there when you get old?" I usually end the conversation laughing with "What guarantee is there that finding a woman in my 30s means I won't be alone in my 70s? Look at the divorce rates"
/r/MGTOW19/05/18 11:24 AM
9

both agreed This is the key here.
/r/MGTOW18/05/18 02:49 PM
3

How old are you? Is your sex drive starting to drop in general, or is it very specific to porn?
/r/MGTOW18/05/18 04:04 AM
3

Stay single, go your own way They can't spend 80% of the money if they only ever have control over 50% of it
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 01:36 AM
3

Great male friends always rib each other, even if they don't mean anything by it. Most of us here with a close male friendship over 3 years know we always bust each others balls. Despite this, men still say they feel less judged by their close male friends? If I was a young male approaching dating age, that would be the type of information that would make me very hesitant. I'm glad this stuff is coming out. The biggest disservice we do to young boys is telling them "Be yourself! Girls will love …
/r/MGTOW13/05/18 04:21 PM
1

Pretty much Like I don't care what Girl Scouts do, as long as they don't ruin BoyScouts. Let the girls in, but don't take away the integrity of what's happening with or without them. Let them go their own way (as an organization), whether that's 100% boys, 90% boys or 50% boys. Much like if Planet Fitness wants to lose part of the market, great, fuck 'em! As long as they don't come into your gym and tell you what to do, and your new gym doesn't have to change it's rules because some former Plane…
/r/MGTOW12/05/18 01:05 AM
6

You're asking why girl scouts don't just start doing boy scout things I'm saying that just because they both have the word scout in them doesn't mean they're run the same way or by the same people or with the same motivations in mind, so they may simply have no interest in doing so
/r/MGTOW12/05/18 12:38 AM
11

Because "that's not what little girls want to do" Also, I'm sure the cookies play a role. I don't know enough about Scouts to be making comments or accusations but if one is funded heavily through sales and another is predominantly volunteers scraping together whatever they can, those organizations will be run differently. Calling Boy Scouts just "Scouts" allows the organization to define what a Scout is before somebody starts attaching gender to the issue. I hope they take advantage of that bec…
/r/MGTOW11/05/18 11:38 PM
55

This is actually what worries me. If girls joining boy scouts is going to make them more well-rounded and have them learn skills that will make them better people, let them in! If a girl wants to learn to tie knots, survive in the wilderness and make sure to do one good deed every day, I'm not yelling "AWALT" to a 9 year old girl. Give her a chance to be independent and participate. But what will probably happen is in a few years, some uber-feminist with a psychology degree from a hack school wi…
/r/MGTOW11/05/18 08:45 PM
4

where's that study that says women mature faster than men? They probably do (on average)...maturity is a much less involved process for some. Plus I'm sure all of us know "men" who drag our average way down. Saying you can walk to work faster than I can drive there is a stupid even if accurate comparison if you work from a home office. Similarly we shouldn't be measuring how fast people become who they are going to be, we should be measuring how much of a journey that is and what they contribute…
/r/MGTOW09/05/18 05:05 PM
2

I support a society in which people like this are sterilized. I wouldn't want her raising a son or a daughter
/r/MGTOW09/05/18 04:13 PM
6

Because if you try to leave, she gets half your shit and you don't get to see your kids As much as guys want sex, I'm sure a lot of men are willing to put up with more than what's fair to be able to see their children more than once every 14 days You don't lose when she shows her true self, you already lost when you slipped the ring on her; when you realize it, it's about damage control. For some men, that's walking away with a small financial loss and a lot of wasted time, others aren't so luck…
/r/MGTOW29/04/18 01:41 PM
35

Yeah, but you're an honourable person, that's generally not what we're dealing with in this situation
/r/MGTOW17/04/18 05:27 AM
12

But Elon Musk is a genius! /s
/r/MGTOW17/04/18 05:06 AM
23

The only reason she put it on Twitter is attention, but maybe some women out there are starting to see a problem, even if they don't do anything about it. I think we can at least acknowledge some level of self-awareness in some cases
/r/MGTOW08/04/18 05:14 PM
4

It will still be up to male colleague to save them, and take a risk he probably would not have had to otherwise. And when it finally happens, it will be a policy change like requiring guards to be in groups of 4 instead of in pairs, which only increases the taxes we already pay. Male prisoners will probably kill a male guard trying to save a female guard anyway because even amongst prisoners, there's a you don't hurt women attitude. I have zero problem with women in these jobs, I have a problem …
/r/MGTOW26/03/18 05:22 PM
5

Oh not to worry, I'm well aware I was guilty of being a rapist as soon as it was one of my father's XY sperm that won the race.
/r/MGTOW18/03/18 12:08 PM
51

I have always hated what we define as a party these days, yes. I still "party" the way we used to when we were kids. Have some friends over, watch a movie or the game, eat some "sometimes food" (stuff you shouldn't eat everyday) and/or play some board or card games. I've never understood simulating a nightclub, or going to them, you go out to a place where you can't hear your friends and sexual assault just comes with the territory.
/r/MGTOW18/03/18 05:24 AM
14

I'd be inclined to think if it was real, the prices would be higher
/r/MGTOW17/03/18 05:21 PM
3

He got the kids too?! Sure she didn't have to pay support for them, but that's still sadly a win for a father these days.
/r/MGTOW16/03/18 12:36 PM
2

I don't think that's what that means It means if you had 100 female cops and 100 male cops, the strongest 98 of the 200 would be male, the weakest 98 would be female and the other 4 in the middle rankings (99-102) could be of any order of the remaining 2 males and females. (not exactly statistically accurate, but it'd roughly work out that way)
/r/MGTOW16/03/18 12:19 AM
1

...and of course your aunt didn't consider that telling her husband's sister about his porn habits might be embarassing to both of them. Like fuck, my sister doesn't need to know what I'm into
/r/MGTOW11/03/18 09:03 AM
20

Love it! MGTOW cyclist means that when I say "I bought a chain for my girl" it cost under $20, has 116 links and I'm going to cover it in lube.
/r/MGTOW03/03/18 02:21 AM
4

I often get asked what I'm going to do with money if not going to spend it on a wife. The idea of retiring in my 40s blows their mind every time. These poor people are stuck in a matrix where you're supposed to struggle to make ends meet, work until you're almost dead and come home to someone society keeps telling you is better than you and makes you happy by agreeing to exist in your space. The very possibility that somebody they know who isn't crazy wealthy can retire 20 years before they've b…
/r/MGTOW02/03/18 02:22 PM
4

I agree with your sentiments. I think a lot of men in here take their disdain to the extreme. Maybe they're at a different place in life than me and you are. I try not to tell people how to go their own way. The point you make that I think people can really learn from is your last one. Women are going to be how they are...just like everything else. Dogs will bark at doorbells, raccoons will tip over garbage cans..it's just what they do. We adapt to other things around us, supporting each other s…
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 02:14 PM
2

This is exactly it. She's hoping your inner alpha will go "how the fuck does he have a woman like her? He's not better than me! I'm going to steal her back" Ignore her. Best case scenario, some lower SMV guy quenches his thirst, understands he was missing nothing, and one more eventually joins our ranks. Most likely scenario, it plays out as long as it does (days, weeks, maybe even a couple of years) and the first time she's lonely, she'll try to reach out to you...just to see how you're doing. …
/r/MGTOW18/02/18 04:53 PM
3

This is why I tell younger men and boys that I mentor about MGTOW but don't recommend it to them right away. I tell them get dating and girls out of your system when it's cheap and you have much less to lose. Better than being 23 and lonely, desperate for the first thot who looks their way.
/r/MGTOW17/02/18 06:36 AM
2

Don't be so rigid with Amazon and eBay, if used wisely, you can possibly help your cause. Don't feel bad about only 5000. Invested well, at your age that's 160000 in retirement
/r/MGTOW14/02/18 03:23 AM
4

"That won't happen to me! Those women are older!"
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 01:36 PM
3

Race gets involved here way too often. Politics too. MGTOW isn't just right wing white men.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 03:34 PM
3

If it's going to be taxed, judges will just increase the amounts so women aren't impacted. Its treated like a make-whole payment as it is, they will ensure women will have the same net benefit
/r/MGTOW16/12/17 03:53 PM
14

Being single, not giving a fuck and being wealthy enough to be able to not give a fuck
/r/MGTOW16/12/17 12:04 AM
41

Start being open with your feelings, get clingy and insist on doing only what she wants. Be overly enthusiastic. The best way to expel a sociopath from your life is to appear boring to them. Sociopaths thrive on manipulating others to get what they want. If you don't need to be manipulated, you are boring. This only works if you follow OPs advice too... otherwise she will spend all of your money before monkey branching off
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 09:44 PM
1

Thank you! I was worried about rambling too much off-topic, so I cut myself off a bit, but my concern about reactions to posts like yours are what make me hate this sub sometimes. It's nothing to do with what you wrote itself, but it seems to me that you're in the process of finding your own way (or maybe this post was about a time further in the past than I understood it to be?), and really are just looking for the support a forum like this can give to men in a similar situation. I feel that so…
/r/MGTOW13/12/17 10:38 PM
9

I don't regret it. It was the truth when I said it, and I still believe if you're going to treat somebody like your partner, you need to be comfortable expressing yourself and put your trust in that person. I've just grown too wise to actually be treating anybody like that anymore. With all honesty, if I ever come across a unicorn (come across, not find, I will never expend any effort to look) I'd probably catch myself saying it again. Very much like if I ever ran into Santa Claus, I'd offer him…
/r/MGTOW13/12/17 01:15 PM
1

If I were to find someone with similar spending habits and move her into my current home, the lifestyle change would probably cost $18000 a year before kids. Theoretically, if she can gross $22-25000, I'd be no worse of in terms of day to day expenses. This would include the extra savings I would need to support 2 people in retirement. However, this doesn't consider any financial compensation for the risk I'm taking. If this goes on for 5 years before she runs off, then during those 5 years, I a…
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 02:05 PM
12

I tell them I'm refusing to date until they change our divorce laws. I'm often pleasantly surprised with how many people tell me I'm smart for it. I do get a lot of "be positive" nonsense too though.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 07:04 PM
2

Too many sometimes. I feel a lot of my friends see me as the most put together person in their network and I get leaned on a lot for various things. The irony is that my entire circle of friends knows everybody's a burden on me, and they all think they're the exception. Whenever I (rarely) get asked "Is there any way I could ever repay you?" I'm tempted to say "Yes, delete my number" The silver lining: A lot of men, especially younger ones, have learned the truth from me. Many still need to lear…
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 04:30 PM
3

This is a more eloquent version of what I would have responded Thanks
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 06:17 AM
4

For sure When I first hit that level, I was proud too, and when you get there, you should be as well. But for amounts under $250000, it's really just a matter of how long have you had a steady job and lived below your means. When the numbers start getting into the 3s and 4s hundreds of thousands and even higher, it's harder to replicate because it involves some combination of very high salaries, a good business or some sort of investing luck/prowess. That's all I was getting at - that you're not…
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 02:23 PM
2

Plus you're 23, and that's not a massive amount. Depending on your life situation, you can save 1/3 of that per year.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 01:55 PM
9

Or better yet, lie to them and tell them you're poor This is exactly what I do. If you're asking, there's only one reason you want to know
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 06:58 PM
6

I went MGTOW at 19, so cannot speak from experience, but I've read many an article suggesting that Toronto women at clubs were pioneers at being 6s who thought they were 10s and expecting the type of treatment Tinder affords everyone now. I doubt they're worse than American women, but might be ahead of the curve.
/r/MGTOW14/03/17 10:16 PM
11

People ask me very frequently when I'm planning to get married - I always respond with "when they change our divorce laws". The response is usually a smile or "Why are you already thinking of divorce before even having a girlfriend?" In every other aspect of life, I'm applauded for thinking ahead and planning for potential consequences, but for the biggest contract I could possibly sign "Be Positive"? Go Fuck Yourself
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 05:23 PM
29

“When a partner isolates their [sic] spouse from friends, associates, and public places it’s called domestic abuse. When it’s done to an entire gender, it’s called feminism.” This is phrased so eloquently, I am going to use it...frequently
/r/MensRights22/02/17 07:12 AM
2

You sound like you're in your late teens. Sorry if I am wrong. I tell a lot of kids I mentor and speak with not to beat themselves too much about dating when you're a teenager when I explain to them exactly what they're up against and I see the deer in the headlights look when they can think of examples of everything I explain to them. The life lesson is cheap (financially), and usually not as severe as what you are going through. You learn what women are really like and it might have cost you a…
/r/MGTOW10/01/17 06:10 AM
1

I think you've hit the nail on the head I frequently wonder about this myself. When I was younger and marriage was still a possibility, I used to ask myself how would I handle an affair. My pride would say show her the door, but then what? If she has no guilt or remorse, I'm just shooting myself in the foot.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 04:43 PM
1

I see a lot of what you're talking about too and it has taken me a long time to move from being a lurker as well. From what I see (based on upvotes) most people here are reasonable, but the ones you are referring to may be posting more often.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 05:30 AM
59

Because they get away with it. When I am conversing with anybody, male or female, as soon as I get 2 answers which don't further the conversation, I end it. I'm not here to chase you.
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 01:16 AM
21

Precisely We're going our own way, not being chauvinists. Tipping good service versus good cleavage actually sends the right message in my opinion.
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 12:57 AM
1

Hey I'm a bit older than you but find myself in a slightly similar situation. I'm seeing a lot of commentary here that supports you but doesn't seem to help, and I think I know why. Your parents are looking out for your best interests, as most parents do. Unfortunately, like most parents, they aren't right 100% of the time. I have had similar conversations with my parents, and I don't boil inside because I know they mean well. "I'm not gonna pick your happiness over mine. I didn't ask to be born…
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 01:18 PM
2

I only use credit because of the cashback, otherwise I'd probably just use Debit. When I was younger, I used to transfer money from my chequing to my credit as soon as I charged my card. Nowadays, I don't have time. I usually just transfer $1500 to my Credit Card. I check it every 2-3 weeks and if my balance is negative, I just transfer another $1500. I'd be a little more efficient if interest rates were higher than 0, but having an extra $1000 on my Credit Card instead of my chequing account ma…
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 01:59 AM
8

There's this here: http://www.stopcrush.org/?p=1938 Where it says he was his own lawyer. But it also seems to imply the minimum was 25 years, so I wonder if the woman plea bargained maybe even offered to testify against the man for a lighter sentence? I don't know how she could get 10 when the minimum sentence was 25 otherwise.
/r/MGTOW05/03/16 11:14 PM
2

I think they are batshit crazy in TRP as you said. Even here, there are times I see things posted that make me wonder about the sanity of the people in this subreddit, but there are often enough people who post valuable stuff here for me to stick around. The most annoying thing here is I see a lot of hive mind mentality for a subreddit of guys going their "own" way. A lot of "If you're not going your own way, my way, you're doing it wrong" type of mentality. I've recently started liking more of …
/r/MGTOW25/02/16 05:43 AM
3

I have similar issues, and I know my family still deep down doesn't like it, but what I have been able to do is demonstrate to them that my reasons for not wanting to be attached are the exact same reasons they want me to be. They're genuinely concerned about me being happy, and fear that I'll grow old alone and be lonely. I always respond to that with I'd rather that, than be married and still FEEL lonely. I show them instances of divorce, how messy it can get and what kind of impact it can hav…
/r/MGTOW21/02/16 11:23 AM
2

That's actually not a bad price on a per flower basis, but sending a flower to everybody is going to be as successful as sending a flower to nobody. More likely, he'll attract a girl from another school who will see how desperate he is and try to bleed him dry. It might be good for him to experience that in his teens rather than when he has much more to lose later in life.
/r/MGTOW15/02/16 10:28 PM
12

So many people tell me not to worry about how bad Mens Rights are in divorce and just find a woman to marry. If I'm worried about losing my house, just put it in my parents name. This is going to be an awesome article to pull out. There are too many people who really don't understand how bad things are - at least with child custody, I'm able to pull out statistics.
/r/MensRights24/01/16 06:24 PM
3

Yeah, it also depends if you're asking this to a 20 year old or 50 year old too
/r/MGTOW21/01/16 03:20 PM
4

Used this to win an argument on the weekend http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/fl-lf/famil/stat2000/p4.html
/r/MensRights21/01/16 06:35 AM
2

Sorry man, I'm new here, I thought it was Men Going Their Own Way, not Men Going the Same Way. I genuinely thought your answer would be of benefit to more than just me. I still think there is somebody here who is glad you answered and didn't have the balls to ask you themselves. If so, fuck the -10 karma you got for answering. You got real life karma for it. Poly isn't for me, and if I love somebody enough to commit to them, I expect them to do the same, which is why I am MGTOW, because I won't …
/r/MGTOW18/01/16 03:13 PM
1

My biggest objection to AWALT is that I KNOW exceptions. Sure, some of these exceptions are the type of girls who just feel lucky to have a man who tells them what to do and is around to make sure they don't die alone, and other exceptions have other types of self-esteem issues, but the fact is there is a type that isn't like that.
/r/MGTOW18/01/16 03:08 PM
1

Hey, I can totally get that. I never unsubbed from /r/atheism, but I can describe my relationship to them similiarly to how you described yours here. I think 99% of them are insane, and not atheists but anti-theists, but I like where the sane ones are coming from. I can't stand redpill and some of the stuff I read here is a little on the extreme side for my liking too - which is why I don't post often.
/r/MGTOW18/01/16 03:02 PM
4

Can I ask why you're here? (in this subreddit) Genuine question, not being a troll. #2 is a big reason I quit dating. I always found I had to be a girls rock (which is fine), but the second I have a bad week, I'm bringing her down and she can't be around.
/r/MGTOW17/01/16 04:39 PM
3

I'd love to see the comments if this was written by a woman liberating her husband
/r/MGTOW14/01/16 09:45 AM
4

Here's one I, as a man, refuse to do certain things that would no doubt stimulate the economy because of lack of Men's Rights. As unpopular as this opinion may be, if I find a unicorn, I don't care if a small portion of my money goes to making the house "pretty". I am more than happy to go out to eat at least 25 times a year more than I do now, I don't have a problem if she wants to have a garden or anything else like that. But my money does none of those things out of the fear that if I settle …
/r/MGTOW05/01/16 02:28 AM
4

I teach her about honor, integrity. Responsibility and consequences. Without specifically mentioning any person or situation, I teach her that just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. This post needs to be higher. I am not a parent, but I often work with children of varying ages. It is the girls who have these traits and developed early that become the loyal and caring women later in life.
/r/MGTOW14/12/15 12:50 AM
32

I can't afford the consequences of a divorce
/r/MGTOW07/12/15 03:11 AM
1

Do you think he'd believe you? If he would, I'd tell him, otherwise, your good deed can cause shit to hit the fan.
/r/MGTOW30/11/15 03:02 AM
10

You're sick of people telling you that you need to "settle down"
/r/MGTOW22/11/15 02:55 AM
1

I long ago decided I was done with playing stupid games and being in relationships if I have to go through the ordeal a man has to go through in 2015. The risk/reward just makes no sense at all to me. I find the only way to get women to treat you right is fear losing you, and I'm not the type of person to cause that insecurity, so I get walked all over. Because of this mentality, like-minded people tend to post stuff in other subreddits that have piqued my interest and I found TRP and this subre…
/r/MGTOW25/10/15 03:57 AM
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