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Alright dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 08:57 PM
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My statement: You can get all the examples of negativity you want, and that doesn't prove anything about the validity of the principles of the movement Your response: lots of examples
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 04:20 AM
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Dude, this entire side conversation started because you made an assessment of what RP philosophies are about because Many of the issues RPers have experienced with women in the past seem to stem from two sources: anxiety/depression or abusive past relationships. Justifying anger at one's predicament with lots of theories about evopsych and "the sad state of modern women" is understandable as a defensive reaction to pain, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Why do you have so much difficulty a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 04:18 AM
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I just noticed that there is literally a post on this sub about the core beliefs required to be RP. Far and away the highest rated response: The belief that men and women are different and have different sexual strategies is the most basic core, and you can't be RP if you disagree with that. I'd like you to explain how believing that is evidence of being abused by women, and that it is therefore not a legitimate viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 02:47 AM
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Nice cherry picked example. You can get all the examples of negativity you want, and that doesn't prove anything about the validity of the principles of the movement, or the existence/lack thereof of people who follow the philosophy without believing or claiming harmful things about women, men, or their relationships. If every woman in the feminist movement hated men, would that be proof that women never receive any discrimination?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 02:18 AM
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the original goals of feminism were to "kill all male scum" And what were the original goals of RP? Saying that Forney and Heartiste are the base of the movement is inaccurate, as Red Pill philosophies, in my eyes and from what I've seen, are fundamentally about tying together various "game" principles in such a way as to provide a coherent understanding as to why those principles work, while simultaneously providing a bulwark against ideas that red-pill proponents believe are either neutral or …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 01:55 AM
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And what are you using as your source for a "Red Pill Manifesto"? There is none AFAIK. /r/theredpill describes the subreddit as The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men. Business Insider describes that particular subreddit as an Internet community on Reddit founded on the general belief that women have it better than men. This might be an extreme version of the definition, but if you narrow it to belief that women have it better th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 01:29 AM
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I wouldn't, because I never use definitions as the basis of my arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 12:41 AM
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Would feminism be any less a legitimate movement if the first two feminists were man-haters?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 12:39 AM
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Let me point out, you're quoting Matt Forney. Forney is a shithead (IMO), and I say that as somebody who read a lot of Red Pill material some years back; Forney was one person who was too fundamentally hateful to read. Taking Forney's interpretation of Red Pill ideas as representative of the RP ideas in general is like taking an extremist feminist's interpretation of feminist ideas as evidence of the fundamental abusiveness of feminism. You could then proceed to argue that feminism is based on w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 11:59 PM
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But you're still making the assumption that RP strategies are equivalent to gaming the abuse system. That simply isn't a fair analogy; RP strategies must be analyzed on their own merits, not on why people start to use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 11:23 PM
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Based on what? I had to define SJW myself because there are no official definitions of SJW. I'm don't really wish to argue about the definition. I'm happy with the definition I already outlined. You can be happy all you like. That does not mean anybody else has to accept your definition unless you can do a very good job justifying it (which you have not).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 11:09 PM
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pretty much the opposite of what red pillers advocate, to not be kind That is such a warped distillation of the red pill philosophy that I don't even know where to begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 11:00 PM
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Many of the issues RPers have experienced with women in the past seem to stem from two sources: anxiety/depression or abusive past relationships. The driver that pushes men into researching RP strategies is not a statement on the validity of those strategies, any more than 98 pound weaklings getting beat up and starting to work out is a statement on the validity of weight lifting for strength improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 10:56 PM
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A more accurate statement might be that Australia still has heavily patriarchal elements in parts/all of its culture. That can still lead to rape reporting measures that lump together different types of rape and non-consensual actions, and are otherwise not comparable to different countries for various reasons. Rape reporting measures usually cannot be compared across countries because of measurement differences, same as issues like deaths during childbirth and other measures that have strong po…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 10:33 PM
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