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Have you tried any of it, like honestly and sought out peer support.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/25 01:25 AM
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You need therapy. Seriously, your life can’t be this miserable.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/25 01:17 AM
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How is the other person supposed to do right in this scenario? The woman doesn’t seem to get any kind of fair chance at buffing someone’s admiration. She rudely rejects a guy she’s a bitch, but if she’s nice about it she’s being fake. In reality, it’s IMPOSSIBLE for any person to accept everyone’s advances and admiration. If we did that we’d never have a steady partner or ever be able to settle into the relationships that work for us. But, this applies to any and everyone. No one is obligated to…
/r/ExRedPill03/10/25 09:42 PM
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I'd say you shouldn't take these interactions, personally. I'm not sure if these are all women, or women that you might show interests in. It's really hard to say without being around you. Though, I would say de-center women, or even how one's might respond to you. Oftentimes, these interactions exist as very personal engagements. It shouldn't be any sort of indictment exclusively towards a specific large group of people (who haven't met you). Besides, you have a very gorgeous face, I honestly d…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/25 03:10 PM
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How can all women reject you, even if they don’t know you? Add in the fact, the number of women who are already partnered or in committed relationship, along with the women who aren’t seeking any relationship at all. Logistically, it’s impossible that you’ll meet every woman on the planet. Awhile, as I speak on your behalf in this paragraph, you have to consider these truths. I’m more than likely assuming, you’re not attracted to every and any woman that passes by. You probably have specific pre…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/25 01:56 PM
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Incel - Right Wing beliefs - Fascist worldview Venn diagram.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/25 11:33 AM
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They have a dichotomy with trad wives. Only glazing them compared to career/socially mobile/higher prestige women. In a certain context, they want trad wives but are not willing to offer her the whole life or not act as a total trad husband in return.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/25 04:02 AM
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Yes, incels have to deal with the reality of the Chad they see: Some Chads easily attain women, while others are very Johnny Bravo-ish with immature emotional intelligence. A singular Chad isn’t necessarily wanted by every woman, just as a singular Chad is not into most women. -The picture of the “so-called” Chad they use in their memes or photos is actually a gay man / men. -Or Chad is a pretty regular dude who happens to be a lawn maintenance guy, fire-fighter, or a sanitation worker. -Chad mi…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/25 03:58 AM
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It’s repackaged hyper-masculinity that includes relentless pro-Capitalism, rugged individualism, and egregious isolationism. Yet, a portion of the same men wonder why they are lonely with no friends or partners, while being broke. Tate followers, Rogan listeners, and other manosphere members hate dislike and detest women, thoroughly. But, are a topic of conversation and still want them as a trophy. Some of them are vocally against the system in place (patriarchy-capitalism), yet still support it…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/25 04:29 PM
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Different groups of people: 1a. Men who are romantically unsuccessful with women - Become frustrated due to a lack of relationship, casual sex, companionship, or all of the above. The difference between the one below is I think these men have had these interactions with women, but disappointing experience. Though, some haven’t. 1B. Incels -An Ideological self identity for men who may have never had any dates, relationships, casual sex, companionship, or even friendship with women. They have deve…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/25 12:10 AM
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Great response.👍 I’m glad that you see these things with your own eyes. The truth is a lot of people appropriate Christianity and Christian ideals. Often, I find it much weirder (cringey), when the “word” is co-opted in Manosphere/red-pilled spaces, which are heavily misogynistic and thoroughly anti-Christ. I say that, because I sincerely believe He would be ashamed of the behaviors that these men often celebrate or engage in. Christ did not mind people “not” getting married (he preferred), only…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/25 05:46 AM
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I amazes me how lamebrained some people are in thinking just because a man is gay that he doesn’t have any masculine qualities. I know people cannot get pass the binary - masculine women are lesbian as gay men are simply gay. A puny red piller would probably argue (in Matt Walsh/Ben Shapiro style) how he could beat a larger, more athletic gifted gay man, just because he’s gay. They can’t out think a dead fly./2
/r/ExRedPill22/01/25 07:38 AM
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From red pill brained dudes, the idea that higher earning men control the greater aspects of society, especially dating women. Their moral character is only questionable if they involve themselves in any behaviors that deducts from their high status. Which means they can still be deceptive, lying, or hypergamous. Their chastity is irrelevant because … patriarchal values dictate such.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/25 09:04 PM
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-“ I need to be hung or my wife/gf will leave at some point. That could be for 1,000 reasons and it’s not even 1008th reason why. “I’m undesirable” ~ Who said you were undesirable. Even, if someone did, that’s only person’s or a few people’s personal opinion. The one person who can make you totally undesirable is yourself. It could happen through physical appearance; personality; a life with no real goals or expectations; emotional immaturity; low self esteem; poor communication skills; bad hygi…
/r/ExRedPill09/06/24 07:16 PM
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This argument I’ve always found silly; looks are already somewhat to entirely subjective. Moreover, it’s hard to quantify what is exactly “ugly” versus people who think they’re ugly versus people who feel they’re ugly on top of how others perceive them. As you can see on subreddits, r/trurateme; r/rateme; and r/amiugly, there can be a huge variation in assessments, and I think it’s such manufactured and flawed process they remove the post of people who may give someone a slightly or more higher …
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 08:10 PM
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How do you even know that? I’ve seen a lot of unattractive guys who are with different women and even gotten different women pregnant. You can’t be living in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:00 PM
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He has to be. There were like hundreds of books about dating and half of them were about how much the dating scene sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:56 PM
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His failing health or stubbornness about not going to doctor and getting checkups His deteriorating/unstable relationships with his family and/or friends, not related to her by blood. How he manages his relationships. His pets His hobbies or lack thereof His conduct towards others, not just the opposite sex members he finds attractive. The type of programs or shows that he watches on TV, internet, or movies. Taking care of his personal needs, life, and health, again.
/r/ExRedPill23/04/24 06:12 PM
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Like, what you just said has nothing to do with what we’re talking about? You are sort of missing the point, very grossly. Playing nicely bro get women to sleep with you is a very childish and immature way of thinking and acting out. It’s one of several things dudes do to get women to like that and it’s actually very similar for most women and young ladies who walk around on this planet. If you only ingratiate yourself to people you only want to sleep with. That’s not a nice person or great guy …
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 05:52 PM
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They live. They live life and do stuff They find willing participants. Literally, no magic or special skills required.
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 02:14 AM
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The irony is glaring and murderous, since red pillers, especially incel ones basically the same boogey person /boogeyman they condemn. They’ll go for a woman strictly for her appearance, if they have the means, but they expect her to be their equal or better. But, if she is of a higher status/class or value as they say. She has to lower her overall value and potential to make the husband or boyfriend happy comfortable.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 10:42 PM
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No, it's a general subject heading. You have individual content creators for each sport. Though, the algorithms suggest figures like "Black and White Sports," "Outkick," "Jason Whitlock," and "Clasher Sports." ​ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/129391u/is_anyone_feeling_a_big_uptick_of_manosphere/ ​ "WNBA in trouble" "American players being phased out" "Lazy athletes"
/r/ExRedPill28/03/24 07:04 PM
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🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇
/r/ExRedPill15/12/23 03:09 PM
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Which makes no sense … They act as if a woman can have sex with every possible man in her orbit. Also they’d be the same people to slut shame her and say she’s definitely not “marriage or relationship material.”
/r/ExRedPill15/12/23 03:06 PM
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It’s almost as if anything that “allegedly” propagates the “Great Replacement” is seen as a threat. If any of them reached that part of the red-pilled spectrum, they might be too far gone into that rabbit hole. They might be capable of anything at that point. The greatest travesty in all of this is how easily avoidable it is and how men can healthily shape the lives they way they want to without engaging in vitriol, bigotry, and resentment towards women & others in society.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/23 12:30 PM
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Again, I don’t think you are comprehending this. ——> What's the reason red pillers love to hate on women over 30, Obese women, single religious women, Single moms, and effeminate men? I simply named all of the other groups of women or people that they are not too crazy about. I’m not saying this out of a personal opinion, I’m mentioning these groups who violence is likely to be taken against. Looking at MRA/red pilled or incel forums and channels these are the most commonly mentioned groups of p…
/r/ExRedPill15/11/23 12:32 AM
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No, a lot of incels who aren’t Black often don’t like Black people. Some of them think it’s a moral failing to be with someone who is not White or near White. The type of women they consider Staceys are almost primarily White. Go over to ratemylooks / trurate my looks. Look at all of the hoopla over Black representation…it’s pronouncedly anti Black woman and anti WOC. They don’t generally care how Black women date unless they’re Black. And, a lot of them lean so far to the right, they’d practica…
/r/ExRedPill14/11/23 03:51 PM
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No offense, but why point out heterosexual women in these situations. When in reality, most of the places you mentioned are pretty homophobic in general. Florida has a reputation for reason, while you look at their governor. There’s no need to wonder how such clod lack of a personality manage to win twice.
/r/ExRedPill14/11/23 11:23 AM
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You forgot Black women, trans women, rich women, and sex workers. Like, these are groups these guys don’t or would really have any romantic interest in or be in proximity to. Yet, you would think all of these groups of women (along with the ones OP mentioned) deliberated a coordinated strategy to firebomb a dude’s family and their home, destroyed his entire porn collection and SA him in the process while murdering his entire family. Stealing all of their money and assets.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/23 12:44 AM
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They are leading the blind into an abyss. They are the type of grifters that I point to as exploiting these younger and disillusioned men. They have these guys really build themselves for all of the wrong reasons. You build yourself for your own satisfaction and peace of mind, not to get girls or for people to like you. It’s a very conformist approach and really have men subscribing to a system that is already negatively affecting them, yet the excuses fall back on women. It’s always funny how F…
/r/ExRedPill11/11/23 01:39 AM
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Of course, the woman is completely in the wrong as anyone else would be regardless of gender. The sex/gender of a person is only relevant if they oppose the social order. For example, there are Jewish people who sided with the the Third Reich, just as many Black people who specifically opposed to Black progress and enfranchisement during the Jim Crow period of the US. Quite, in the same way we see certain trans people who oppose any sort of trans rights…discrimination; public health; or progress…
/r/ExRedPill02/11/23 10:34 AM
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The Madonna-Whore Complex is in full effect and it’s silly how a lot of men are oblivious to it and actually works against what a lot of them personally want.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/23 02:27 PM
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The answers above me are incredible, but I honestly believe it’s a pretty systemic problem and the failing of society that is far too controlling over gender norms and values. I also believe this sort is double negative in a country, like the US where “machismo” and “vast materialism” is so warped into cultural values and social values that it makes men feel isolated and failed, if they don’t fulfill certain aspects of manhood. Red Pill or incel communities, even many right wing channels or alph…
/r/ExRedPill01/11/23 08:43 AM
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You sort of have to interact with people, outside of work. You can find different hobbies or just join different city groups or clubs online. You know just find a good group of platonic people to hang out with.
/r/ExRedPill30/10/23 12:09 AM
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The two biggest problems with the pill movements (even the pink one): They take away a lot of personal accountability and self criticism in much the same way they criticize other movements of identity. But, just in the “red” and “black” pill spaces, the Guys sometimes by their own personal admission, like incels are their own worst enemies. They sometimes live scenarios out in their own mind, get caught up into online headlines, and following advice from charlatans. Where they are expected to us…
/r/ExRedPill29/10/23 12:48 PM
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I think it was a popular idea in very early RP movements, but modern RPs as you say believe in the “stoic approach”. Men should make zero moves or efforts unless a woman shows some interests or engagement.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/23 10:08 AM
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A lot of pickup artists’ routines, they may work in some contexts, but in as a universal rule … No … no … stop. If someone doesn’t heed your advances or give you positive feedback cues, please stop. This isn’t just for “trying to pick up women,” it’s a personal communication violation. Why would a random woman respond any differently, especially if she’s not making any eye contact or giving you a positive reaction?
/r/ExRedPill12/10/23 12:50 AM
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They really understand nuance and how interpersonal relationships work. A woman can be a wild party animal with a super high body count and settle into a happy monogamous relationship. A lady can be a virgin or have low body count and looser than a goose in a LTR or marriage. Or vice versa. Which is why you talk to people and date before you go down the road. If you see a woman has certain traits or tendencies you don’t like. You let her be, just the same you would be with any man.
/r/ExRedPill11/10/23 11:09 AM
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🏆
/r/ExRedPill11/10/23 11:04 AM
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You also don’t need to be rich, nor particularly brilliant or have impressive physicals/looks to get anyone of any particular gender. Just don’t be an asshole or a royal cunt, and expect things out of people. Your life can be so easy in that department.
/r/ExRedPill11/10/23 11:03 AM
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I think dating apps are ok in moderation, but if it’s your online outlet to meet people that’s a problem.
/r/ExRedPill27/09/23 02:56 PM
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Black crime is a symptom of society that has problems with all other existing laws that we Should crimes, on top of other issues that across with anti-Black racism. Black crime is not committed out of Black hatred. Islamophobia is typically not propagated by other Muslims on the basis of Islamophobia. Jewish community can’t possibly save itself from antisemitism, because they don’t perpetuated. Jewish people typically don’t engage in antisemitism or anti semitic violence. The keyword here is nua…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:00 PM
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You guys do realize millennial women are having less sex than previous generations of women. The silent generation women are closer to the millennials than they are to baby boomers or gen X. Women are less likely to be happy or even sexually satisfied after an encounter, remember these studies are primarily heterosexual based. Women also suffer way more consequences from sex, especially from their families, interested men, society, and health wise. If you get pregnant there’s a level of conseque…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:35 PM
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Here’s the problem amongst these ideas — it’s one thing for you to have personal preferences, which are strictly personal. Though, when it comes to certain incels and some RP beliefs, it’s a “them problem or issues.” To the point, it’s become a social problem where people are becoming radicalized just because no woman “currently” or “actively” gives them attention. The problem arises when they are advocating for institutions or practices that specifically seek to harm or control women, because i…
/r/ExRedPill11/09/23 01:57 PM
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Just try to follow this simple “DNA” sequence: ➡️Want women to be traditional and chaste housewives⤵️ 🔴Yet, want women to generally be open to having sex with any guy who asks (since women are also hated for turning down too many guys) as well as… ↙️ 🛑If her rejection rate is over 5%~10% would be too much for some of them 🔛 But, remember some incels or RPillers would still be reactionary and their arguments would still apply. 🔁 Because, in some scenarios that’s practically impossible in populati…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/23 02:17 PM
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Not the end, but definitely at a certain crossroad. Manosphere in general, which has several RP figures and personalities have taken a lot of hits. For Manosphere, they’ve essentially lost two vital figures with Kevin Samuels (deceased) and Andrew Tate (likely headed to prison). There’s been all sorts of in-fighting, grifting, and outing of some not so nice or honorable dudes and people. Jordan Peterson has sort been labeled a “quack” and “nutters” even by the right and many RP, where he has had…
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 03:16 AM
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Here’s the wildest thing about all of this craziness—They weren’t demonetized for their hatred of women and such. Their channel is still here and they can always get a new one or the old one reinstated in the sharing program.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/23 11:27 PM
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People are literally “transphobic” and use bigotry for no reason. Yes, those people are all bigots.” If we go by their logic as they do with trans people and generally all other LGBTQ people. We would need to ban: -Priests/Nuns from working with children. As well as youth pastors and pastors/clergymen in general, no adults or kids after a certain age can work around child. -Pretty much any person who is a teacher, because both male and female teachers have relationships with underaged students. …
/r/ExRedPill24/08/23 04:53 PM
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@kpopmycherry69 Their causes are a stark difference, where one side is generally trying to improve human condition and give equal rights and privileges across the board. The other doesn’t really benefit anyone except the dominant economic/ethnic/religious or social class with the rest of society serving their needs as individual people. In our society, it’s overwhelmingly paternalistic, so fascism and control of all other groups of people by hierarchy,class, and outright elimination of dissenter…
/r/ExRedPill23/08/23 10:42 PM
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I’m not sure you have public transportation in your city, but if you do you should utilize. I know a lot of people frown upon it, but it’s a very easy way to get around town. You could also get an electric bike or scooter. It’s different, but you’ll have transportation. You should find hobby groups and go to peer groups. Maybe participating in different events or do more volunteer work. You can do all of this and utilize dating apps that might have more of what you’re looking for or go out to da…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 12:48 PM
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I’d say for many, they don’t from their own personal accounts- incel.me / 4chan / Reddit. They pretty much admitted themselves. I guess a lot of them have no experience with women, because they talk about their interactions with women and it’s based in “their experiences with random people who just happen to be women or girls.” RPs, again from what it sounds like, seem to have alot different and diverse experiences with women. Often, through one or a few long term relationships or lots of casual…
/r/ExRedPill12/08/23 06:49 PM
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RP men are distinct from incels, because many have likely had relationships, sexual interactions, or dealings with women/girls (hopefully age appropriate), even married in some case. Now, incels can be completely RP, but they’re sorta talking out of their asses and are bitter no one (mostly women/girls) engages with them on any sort of personal level. Probably not romantic, but I can’t determine that because so many probably don’t recognize or can read communication and non-verbal cues.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/23 01:51 PM
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100%, this⬆️ I saw the Jubilee about flat -Earthers and the scientists. It was the most ridiculous thing I think ever seen. Why are we having people who spent their entire lives devoted to the discipline, only to be placed on the same footing as sceptics who have a belief that Earth is not what it’s said to be and use complete pseudoscience to prove it. Jubilee does this often with many bad-faith actors who are not in the dealings on a basis truth nor present accurate information and evidence to…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/23 05:13 PM
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Very….
/r/ExRedPill11/08/23 12:22 AM
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Hopeless and insecure, while finding a scapegoat in society, which is mostly women/girls, along with “being woke because it empowers women allegedly” and giving favor to non-white and non-hetero/cis- groups. When in reality, none of these groups could ever do any real harm to any of these young men. Some just want to be accepted or normalized, but they really don’t have the skills or can feel they have the right space to do that without being judged or seen as weak. Or, they want to live in the …
/r/ExRedPill19/07/23 05:31 PM
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Oh, there’s no leader and the leadership is shared. I never understood why people don’t think leadership and decisions can be made through two or more people. I would think it be above primitive patterns, because even other animals and organisms somewhat figure that out.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/23 09:45 PM
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Shocking. Positively Shockingly. ~ I heard a fictitious (likely alpha male said once).
/r/ExRedPill02/07/23 04:44 PM
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I got into big discussion about this earlier, today. I won’t just limit it to incels and “red-pilled” men. But, men in different walks of life, lack a steady support, which leads them to “far-right spaces,””groups that use them as collateral damage and profits (Manosphere and companies that exploit men’s desperation),” or “commit suicide or horrible crimes.” A lot of it is systemic and very intentional. Divisive, class warfare, misogyny, misandry (through patriarchal norms), toxic competitivenes…
/r/ExRedPill23/06/23 06:58 PM
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I think you should socialize more in general, build communication, networking through hobbies and social events. Detox from dating apps for the near future. Just work on yourself. Everything else is up to you, you have to do whatever makes you happy or satisfy your own desires. You are the arbiter of your own destiny. No one else can decide but you, since you’re not in a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 04:51 PM
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My mindset is exactly as you describe and it’s the way I’ve learned through school and life experience, just as much from parents who although have completely different experiences and worldviews was never rely on other people for much of anything. Being and only child, not really wanting to follow crowds, I just did my own thing and made myself help. I hate to say this, but a lot of people and groups who gravitated towards me in adulthood were always needy and demanding. Being a giver, self-rel…
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 04:43 AM
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Nope, absolute not. As others have said these two, like other red pill types and dating strategy personalities are “massive” hypocrites who feed off the misery and desperation of their own fans for clout, money, and notoriety. Going celibate and having an undesirable personality, while your idols are pounding the same type of women that they make fun of and go to bank, while they do it. As you sit home bitter, broke, and intimately & sexually unfulfilled. I must commend such men and women for ha…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/23 03:30 PM
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I’m going to come out of left field, but I think RP can come from any walk of life. I feel some have one of the following: Mommy issues: Like, how many accuse women and girls having daddy issues or an absent father. Some of the guys have the same issues with their mother or some things she did and hold it against all women. Bullied and teased by women or girls when younger: Same as the above, but replace “mean mommy” with “evil guuurrlls from school.” Learned toxic views from family, friends, sc…
/r/ExRedPill25/04/23 12:59 AM
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I actually don’t think RPillers/incels/mansophere are not a lost cause. There might be some hope at the end of the tunnel. They’d need to see the world for what it is. They see all or any women as “eager villains” or “opportunistic shrewds.” As if this type of behavior doesn’t exist amongst men and could possibly be wider spread in populations of men. We discussed on PPD, how these men often bemoan sex workers, including Instagram models (who offer services), OF users, or even everyday “stripper…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 10:11 PM
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Red Pill figures often over-emphasize the shortcomings of certain women in particular and present them as the majority of women, while they highlight men as “knightly,” even when they are dead wrong or have committed some atrocities. There’s even support of their worst qualities, just as long as it doesn’t cater to women. Men are painted as “honest,” “hardworking,” “direct,” “nothing to hide,” “exploring his options,” and their “self-fulfillment” is a natural part of men and lends itself to thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:34 PM
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Question -- Who lied to you? How you might say this person or people mislead you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:33 AM
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So, shooting for triple 6s, huh. Perhaps, a quadruple with a certain body part. Jking. I think you are on a good path, as long as you are happy. That's the best thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:12 PM
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OT - Do you find it unusual how alot of people attribute some awful behaviors about women, directly to feminism? I only asks this, because some people do speak as if feminism an aggregator to hypergamy, even though most feminist theories speak differently and encourage equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:22 PM
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What’s the point of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:37 AM
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That’s the fatal flaw with dating. It’s been commodified for so long that people have turned it into a chore. Because, like everything else in society, it is something that can be had or “at a price.” Want a car - Save your money; take out a loan; borrow money from institutions or loved ones, or get a higher paying job. Same thing, if I want a new TV, a innovative gadget, or a home. Even for things, like going to a type of school for education or job training, maybe a nice trips. A lifelong part…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:56 PM
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I know this is weird to say, but people who believe this should abstain from or completely change their expectations, approach, methods, or ways of how they view dating. I say for men in particular, who complain about dating, they literally could change the dating scene in a matter of days, if they really wanted to. They would not need to complain or fight with anyone over. No tears or bloodshed required.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:35 AM
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This true, but I don’t think you realize how many outlets and options exists in comparison to someone from say the 1970s, 1920s, 1800s, or 1400s. You realize how brutal those societies were and you don’t think finding companionship would’ve been challenging or even more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:10 AM
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Men in 2000s-2023, have way more dating options, outlets, and opportunities than they have probably ever had in the past. Considering the harsher conditions of society and people being limited in their choices, especially if they did not travel. You can match with people you have more in common with much easier now, because there are so many more outlets: Social media, online dating, better (public) transportation, hobby events, dating events, dating coaches, dating services, setup dates, employ…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:41 PM
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Being “nice” is equated with “singleness” or “being single.” It’s weird how people gloss over this part. It’s said and stated in so many different ways, I can’t keep up with them. “Me being nice or nice guy, then things should be better.” https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/kszm00/im_a_nice_guy_now_what/ https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/dkfge/if_im_such_a_great_guy_why_am_i_alone/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/zubvx7/women_that_gave_that_nice_person_a_…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 09:36 PM
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I think I fall somewhere close to the middle, but it does sow a lot of distrust into a relationship and can be a striking relationship-killer, especially with a child. The problems occur often due to people’s irrational fears and reactions to suspected infidelity. Which is pretty common, but oddly enough most people are fairly monogamous and don’t commit infidelity as often in the beginning of a relationship. It can if a relationship is deteriorating or one which was never built on trust or grow…
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 02:17 PM
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I’d respect them alot more if they were truly MGTOW. In the sense of breaking away from societal norms and expectations and living by their own rules and even means in the sense of making a better life for themselves. Pursue their own dreams and passions without adhering to some sort of life script. They mostly don’t do that. They have made idols of people who could be characterized as grifters or charlatans. While, many continue to have a malignant distaste for anyone who seems happier or more …
/r/ExRedPill13/02/23 04:40 PM
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Without question, I’d at least know he’s diverse in the bedroom. Besides, this question is somewhat inconsistent, because on one hand. Some men are judging women on the merit of how many other men she slept with, not how many women she slept with. Which would be a consistent analogy. This analogy reads like “would you date a bisexual man?” Which the opposite is “would you date a bisexual woman?” Not specifically a man’s body count with women. Me personally, absolutely. I’ve dated and had relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:20 AM
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There are objectively certain policies put in place to help women. Why were they put in place? What would be the purpose of those? ​ Their are women only scholarships. There are sometimes gender quotas on corporate boards and other positions. Their are pay gap laws when the pay gap is very nuanced and not simply outright discrimination. Again, why do these measures exist in the first place? I’m not debating their ethical nature or fairness? But, why do they exist. Another problem with this is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:30 PM
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And, some didn’t. Not every adult, regardless of sex, gender, or sexuality want or desire to have children. Some of which are conventionally attractive or successful. Just as there are many unsuccessful and conventionally unattractive people, who can and do fall into both categories and have an obscene number of kids. Which brings to different equations for one problem? Is it a matter of having children or sex? People can have alot of sex and not produce any children, just the same with a person…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:17 PM
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I don’t think he realizes that men get the same help as women, if *they typically have children, a disability, or extenuating circumstances.” Women don’t get money or benefits for merely existing. Alimony and spousal support only happens if there’s marriage. And, again we often don’t know the pretense of all marriage dissolution. Some cases favor the wife, but many don’t especially if they were the cause of dissolution. “Well, women can get sugar daddies and sell their body for sex (OF, porn, st…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:13 PM
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So, you believe people should merely exist to perpetuate a life cycle that lends to its beastly state. Besides, why do non-heterosexual people exist, if that’s the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 02:51 PM
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Yet, everyone who knows anything about it. Know it’s a wildly popular book by Brett Easton Ellis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:31 PM
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But, who created these standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:57 AM
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If they did, or did it successfully, these type of subreddits wouldn’t exist. If men and women are both frustrated with relationships, there’s a disconnect somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:17 PM
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It’s a statement being referenced to without regard to gender and other identity factors. Person to person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:22 PM
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I know this subreddit is mostly hetero-leaning and hetero-normitative. As a a queer trans person, I do think this in hetero culture is pretty silly and pedantic. I think there’s nothing inherently wrong with a 50/50 split, if you are equal partners across the board, or both of you willingly settle on splits, different responsibilities, and arrangements. There’s nothing wrong with a man or woman who pays 100% or near for everything, if they agree to it and are comfortable with that. Though, relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:09 PM
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I can give into the argument that “gender roles” are natural, yet why we should we follow them. Especially, if a person or people don’t want to, need to, or desire to follow them. They shouldn’t have to, if we as society actually believe in concepts of “freedom” and “liberty”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:56 PM
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Like, in your skin rash or hentai stash?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:25 AM
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OLD, many women still don’t date online, and demographics are often not 50-50. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/02/06/10-facts-about-americans-and-online-dating/ https://www.datingadvice.com/studies/iasods Younger women…in their 20s have way more suitors. OkCupid study is flawed nearly all comments pointed out, why it’s presented disingenuously. https://www.reddit.com/r/OkCupid/comments/cigdei/okcupid_study_compared_with_tinder_study/?sort=confidence Men have similar routines to boost …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:17 AM
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“Charisma” is the wrong word. Because, “charisma” and “the spark” are two different things. The better word for this scenario is “chemistry.” I won’t say it’s imperative or needed, but it can be very hard to maintain a relationship. Because, it comes back to why are you in a relationship with someone you don’t feel strongly about. Outside of money, status, looks, sex, or children, what’s the point of being with that person, if you don’t have any unique connection or attachment to them unless it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:33 PM
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Also, if a person is unemployed or underemployed, even if it’s temporary. Is it not something a potential partner should have a least a little bit of concern about? Before, it’s said to be only a “woman thing.” Do men in general look past dating women who are in the sex industry, even something as light as nude dancer, cam girl, or stripper? It’s something many can’t and don’t look past? Moreover, quite a few cannot handle women who work in a profession with mostly men cough competition and clos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:18 PM
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Everybody's experience is not the same. User experience. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:17 PM
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I think you are grossly missing point, here. IT's not about any other groups at this juncture, but they're struggles all come from the same place in society, which should be suspicious to anyone who does a little research. Why are any of these groups maligned in society? Simple question. Also, my whole entire point to anyone, how do you determine if a person is male or female, if that person has a sexual reproductive disorder or ambiguous genitalia? Other groups are not in this discussion. But, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:16 PM
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Me, too. Hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:56 AM
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/s.htm https://lifehacker.com/here-s-how-much-sex-everybody-is-having-1795561168 https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/05/06/CDC-40-of-US-teens-are-sexually-active/8811588709258/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:44 AM
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Unstable internet person -- Cite your sources from DSM - V, which says it's considered disorder. But, can you tell if a person with DSD is male or female, especially at birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:37 AM
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Going by Pew Research and observation-- 65%, at least. If we are not counting sex workers. 85%/90%, if we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:26 AM
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Please stop responding, you are wasting words and time. You cannot even tell us how a physician would determine the biological sex of a person with a sexual reproductive disorder. Anything you say on that topic is pretty much, negligible. Because, again some of those children do end being trans and may also have Gender Dysphoria NHS - Gender dysphoria is not a mental illness, but some people may develop mental health problems because of gender dysphoria. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:19 AM
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Ok, sweetie, like someone really needs to show you a good time and perhaps some good therapy. Perhaps, educate you on the nuances of being an intersex. Of course, doctors don't use the terminology anymore, rarely did Captain Obvious. Though, "people" and actual organizations recognize themselves as such, not as a third sex. But as an oppressed class of people and children in society who deals with the harsh reality of society that has stratified it's gender system in a strictly two sexed system …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:57 PM
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Gender Dysphoria replaced the term gender identity disorder. Because, the term was replaced. And, was replaced because mental disorder was acutely inaccurate and stigmatizing. Besides, intersex is outdated, according to what source, darling? Also, again you seem to have problem with comprehension or difficulties reading. I never said there was third sex. I did say that biological sex, like gender could and may exist on a spectrum. In your opinion and research, how would you know a person is livi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:25 PM
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“Intersex” is an outdated term that doesn’t make any sense and is no longer in use. Intersex Society of North America https://isna.org/faq/what\_is\_intersex/ https://isna.org/node/16/ Disorders of sexual development exist and every single person that has one is male or female lol. How would determine the biological sex of these children/people? Especially, when many of these children or adults have gender affirming surgeries later in life, different than what they were assigned at birth. How do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 09:59 PM
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So, I have curious question? How do we account for people that intersex, have ambiguous genitalia, or men who have female chromosomes/women who have male chromosomes. I dare say, why does gender dysphoria exist, as well. If there's not spectrum on biological sex. Also, this is only with humans, because that statement is false with animals who are hermaphrodites or can reproduce asexual (which every member of that species isn't necessarily able to do).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:39 PM
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ggressive behavior has rewarded them. They're able to use their aggression to ger what they want and/pe to get people to do what they want. Typically this behavior is reprimanded out of girls at a young age so most women do not behave aggressively due to socialization, not because of "femininity". People learn to navigate through life through the safest and or most productive means. If it's more rewarding (less chances for conseqences) for a specific person to be meek and "invisible", then those…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:21 PM
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Very much so, both feminine men and masculine women are pretty abundant in society. Most hetero people aren't around such people, refuse to acknowledge such, or are repulsed by them, because of social and gender norms. From the ones I've met or know, they are pretty awesome people in many different ways. ​ Most people are neither 100% of either, which is actually pretty rare. ​ As trans person, I've been judged harshly by both standards throughout my life, though I'm a pretty fem though with cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:13 PM
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I agree, boofthegirl. I don't think one should be that way. People should be able to make themselves with or without a partner (happy). It's not to say those kind of people won't attract anyone, but it can be seen as very needy and draining.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:17 PM
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Umm, you do realize he has been linked to other women, and been accused of being in an open relationship. There have been quite a few women that have been linked to him, again it's not of our business, but you are the one playing in that kind of cesspool. You're calling someone who is worth hundreds of millions and living his best life .... weak, especially when you are labeling yourself with something that doesn't even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:54 PM
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Which is very clear indication of a so-called weak man. OP doesn't even realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:40 PM
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Dude, you don't anything about Will Smith. You are only judging him by one interaction. Their relationship is alot more complicated than what you saying about giving how the things that go on between them. They've been rumored to have an open relationship, as well as being linked to other people for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:58 PM
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Glad someone mentioned this, I'd also like to add going by Pew Research, the rates are almost exactly the same as women in the each of the same age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:40 PM
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What exactly makes them different from other women, besides being related to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 07:15 PM
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That's the problem with discussing dating, especially in this forum and similar reddits. You can't quantify a nebulous person, because everyone's interests is so diverse. Even, the silly SMV/RMV acronyms, wouldn't apply, because for the man in question he could be a Chad to his girlfriend, but he could end up with another woman who has a bit or much higher social currency than he does (SMV/RMV). Even though, he's still a relatively average man, though at this point he is with a woman with better…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:17 PM
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Imperative. If you can't be friends with your partner is one thing, if you can't be playful or make humor with your partner. ​ How are you guys still together?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:01 PM
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The Chad is simply the man that a lot of women find attractive for whatever reasons. There are some similarities in traits such as confidence, success (relative to said woman), intelligence (relative to said women), Sexuality, social adeptness...but its not all some single trait, nor is it some specific look that must be true for a man to be a successful Chad. So, how does one identify a Chad for any particular woman, if they don't all specifically have the same traits? Because, it would be an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 05:54 PM
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Overall, I never said that you did or accused you of that. You are actually getting way off topic, because training and exercising is pretty small part of this argument. You are ignoring some vital aspects of our culture and history. Body dysmorphia is dangerous for anyone. That's what the comments acknowledged...physical health is imperative. But, for women, feminine beauty is also tied into their beauty and perceived health. Because, your argument assumes that women don't also have to work out…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:23 PM
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People SPECTRE were trying to kill both of them. Which is pretty standard in Bond films. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(2006_film))
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:03 PM
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Operative word, again is I. Not all or most men, nor average men in this conversation. This is about films, more specifically action or spectacle films, which have become more demanding of its leads over the decades, because of the action set pieces and stunts. While, it is an entertainment genre that is still mostly consumed by men. Those standards for men weren't created by women, but other men. Pumping Iron...the rise of Arnold Schwarzenegger to the increase in steroids usage in sports, espec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:23 PM
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Which one? Which films?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 12:09 PM
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A good bit of Hollywood, both modern and classic presents this ideal in both men and women. Though for reasons, many people overlook. Writers and storytellers often use unrequited love stories, because it often is easier to build a sense of mystery to a potential relationship. It is a story that can easily happen over an hour to 600 episodes. ​ ​ Also, a man doing grand gesture for romance, heroic, adventure, comedy (unintentional - intended comedy) or surviving a tragedy or horror is a standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 12:06 PM
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In general, men have to keep working to remain attractive to their wives long term and thus keep the marriage intact. I We all have to remain attractive to our partners in some shape or form. For people, it's different things -- physical attractiveness; romance & intimacy; having friendship; or being a good provider. It could be multiple things. You say I have to provide for my wife, but doesn't your wife have to provide for you. If she isn't or doesn't why would you been with her. If you got in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:09 PM
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Do you think that might be a social or economical? Marriages don't have performance , because it is already at-will and one can separate at their own will? ​ Why would you be in marriage that requires performance ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:27 PM
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figuringMylife, I agree with everything you said. They choose each other more power to them. We all just go about our day. She choose him for his money. He choose her for her looks, not for her personality, empathy, abilities It's pretty simple. It's not some magical equation for all or most women. A certain type of person or woman, which people call gold diggers, do exist. I can pull an anecdote, right here. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/woman-enrages-boyfriend-itemizing-monthly-150020545.htm…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:11 PM
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Have you considered therapy? Your thoughts contradicted one another and make no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 06:38 PM
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Yeah, is someone free to ask for an STD test?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:42 PM
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There's difference between twinks and feminine-looking men. Twinks is kinda outdated, while feminine men can have any type of sexuality. With that being said, I was never opposed to dating a feminine man, especially if we had a vibe and we were attracted to each other. My less real male crush, some people might have seen him as feminine, but he was really well-groomed and had a babyface, while being 40 ish. But, it was his personality that made me have crush on him in those days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:53 PM
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K-Pop is pretty universal, now over taking J-Pop. Those styles aren't every person's cup of tea. Though, I cannot deny most of their fans are either pre-teens, teens, and middle aged women. I swear to God. I had to go look at demographics backdown of each bands popularity. They are popular with those three groups, as well as younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:44 PM
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Also, why would a gay man date a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:42 PM
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I respect from all over the world from different spectrums, gender, or sexes, why would I(we)? I think people, regardless, if they are cis-, hetero-, bi-, gay, lesbian, trans, non-binary, agender, intersex, ace, or anyone who has no gender or sexuality at all, have the capacity to be wonderful. I don't think that something inherent in any particular group of people. ​ This is what I hate about questions, like these . Because, it assumes that people assume the worst. But, in reality, it's only th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:01 PM
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For the world, could the average guy alive now be comfortable in world with completely different dynamics and way of doing things. Do you have a skill set, trade, or intelligence to help the world? Or, you just good for sex, and if that's not enjoyable enough to women. Would you still be able to find out what makes you happy? Because of how you think from an Old World perspective in a New World out of your comprehension. Because, if you are a lucky average guy and get most of your personal satis…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:52 PM
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I'm going to focus on the positives, more than negatives, because everyone assume s a apocalyptic scenario is a default. I'm going into to focus on the positives that could happen. ​ ​ ​ ​ + Science and education may progress. The demands for a more educated populace and skill trades would increase. ​ ​ ​ ​ +Intellectualism, medicine, psychology, sociology, and mental health would be taken more seriously. Automated technology, AI, and robots would become much more common and developed. ​ ​ ​ ​ ​…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:39 PM
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Look #9 (under the girls/women) -- She's has a natural smile with very happy facial expression. She took photos with her showing alot of personality (in the process). You know it doesn't describe her personality, per se. It's a very good photo...well composed, well lit, and is showing her natural facial expressions and degrees of emotion. ​ A good smile is more inviting than a weak smile or no smile at all. Think sales people or customer service are you going to like an employee who smiles at yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 09:24 PM
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Oh! My vision is not the best. Though, both are beauties in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 01:33 PM
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Yes...yes...yes...yes...yes. Height doesn't f#ckin matter to every woman on the planet. I wish there were more threads about becoming a better man/person and not come off as a massively insecure asshole than threads about height, looks, preferences, genital size and someone's body count. Perpetually stuck in high school. Also, if you like Chads, so much why don't some you guys go fuck one, if women aren't making you happy. Jesus Christ!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 01:20 PM
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The women are gorgeous, especially 6-11. The guys are alright. The photos are very poorly shot. But, they're all attractive, definitely not ugly. 8 has a really well positioned photos. Most attractive to me: Ladies--6, 8, 9, 10, and 11. Very fit women and beautiful faces. I think 1-5 are very attractive, 4 and 5 are likely the same person. Most vibrant personality -- #1 ( of all the guys) and #3 (of all the girls). Are the most inviting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 12:20 PM
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I live in reality, not rejection in my head. I've been followed home; called epithets; been grabbed; nearly kidnapped; had objects thrown at me or my/our car; be threaten with physical with violence; have a gun and knife pulled on you; chased home; waited outside of residence; and have the police not care. Have people say it's your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 02:40 AM
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The thing about danger is mostly true but you didn't count on our feelings. ...We face rejection very often. And we don't feel desired. There are no women checking us out anywhere. If we don't say anything, we will be alone forever. This is what women don't understand. Rejection is tough feeling. Those feelings are valid, and people have to find healthy ways to deal with it. Rejection is absolutely not terminal. It's even silly to suggest a person will be alone forever, when they haven't live th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 01:50 AM
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That's the one thing, I cannot describe in forums or reddits, like this. Cis, het people, especially men have it very easy. Their safety is not in danger, like it would be with non-cis or non-hetero people. It's not to say men don't face dangers, because they do. They just aren't very concerned about them to the point women are. Women have targets on their back in almost any given environment with cis and het men. It's not to say all or most guys are bad, but women are going to get approached or…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:13 PM
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Trans woman -- Dating is hard in general, but it's alot easier to date women for me. I don't typically just run in and ask people out, you have conversations that lead up to that point. I've had women ask me out, probably as much as I've asked other women out. I think asking people out is an inaccurate word, because it is much too forward. You can get a feel, if someone is interested in you by their conversations, interests, flirting, and body language. They are also dropping hints. So, it's pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:05 PM
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Active criminals -- drug kingpin, mobsters, gang members, killers, or traffickers. Pastor/Priest/Nun/Religious worker -- Agnostic, so that's pretty obvious. (On the fence) Celebrity -- I don't think I'd want to be married to celebrity. I don't think it would work out unless they are out of the spotlight or we are already in a relationship. I have nothing against the people, personally, but I don't think it'll be a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:47 PM
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You do realize there are different types of motivational speakers. Like, career-oriented, educational, knowledge base, religious, social, and etc. They often serve different purposes beyond motivation, and it can be a very lucrative field. Some often teach social skills, not only in a general sense...but within in a given field, scenarios, or line of work. The way lawyers communicate is different astronauts, just the same between politicians or teachers. Speakers give advice how to be more succe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:37 PM
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Also, getting your safe to orgasm is much greater than having bad sex; a partner who doesn't care; un-romantic; STDs/STIs; infidelity; and there's no song and dance to initiate casual sex, dating, or a relationship just for the sake of having partner and offering them sex. Also, no prostitutes are harmed. Casual daters aren't let down by just a mild casual sex relationship. No unneeded children. No getting families involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:03 PM
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You think German Shepherds are disgusting? They are wonderful creatures and great companion pets. You didn't think I was talking about a romantic relationship, did you? It's frightening how alot of men think...especially those men who are obsessed with Chad's. I don't think a person could have a healthy relationship with anyone, if they are thinking about someone, like Chad. That person should consider therapy. I'm being completely honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:16 AM
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Chad doesn't and never has existed to me... Only as a random customer or ...a German Shepherd, next door. Now, he was quite lovely. A real beauty😉
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:02 AM
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I will get downvoted , but I think social skills and awareness can take you further than looks. Looks can fade and is not commodity in every field of work, study, or arena in life. It might be easier for attractive people to get into certain fields or types of work. Though, a so-called unattractive, obese, or below average Joe and Jane can go alot, further than a person who only has their looks. Even people with looks, have to refined themselves and master their crafts, because if you are a movi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:26 AM
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Yeah, the standards for alot of men are pretty high for other people, but themselves... no way not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 10:31 PM
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I don't have any children, but I'd support my son (s) or daughter(s) in whoever they dated, as long as the person is not abusive or toxic, while being fair and had their best interest in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:26 PM
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You'd think incels and other types of pilled people would understand that, but to them it's like talking to a wall. They don't see inconsistency in that and obvious subjectivity. It's alot of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 11:29 AM
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Are you FTM married to a MTF What does that even mean to anything? I just see two different people with two different subjective grades for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:32 PM
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According to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:15 PM
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This whole argument is annoying as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:08 PM
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So, how does one accurately rate a person (men/women), so it's fair in the dating world? Like, a looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 02:54 PM
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Are we being punked, here? This is like Sci-Fi. ​ All of the women, here are 100 in my book, just like all of the men are. Sue me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 01:53 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/tdvp8m/yikes/ ​ https://eddie-hernandez.com/online-dating-gender-ratios/ ​ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is also a big point in online dating that is not being mentioned at all, but it's great outstanding point. The two most attractive women received 83% of all messages. ​ That's the thing about this entire debate, the most attractive women are getting nearly all of the mess…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:48 PM
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Having children with the guys they are attracted to, but can't tie down, and then settling down and nesting with a beta provider. Only 4%, officially. You haven't listed any sources that said "negative, no match, or below 99%." You mention random statistics that can't even be defined or qualified. What is an attractive man? How do you even know of the "so-called" 4%-10% that woman had a child with an attractive man? The study doesn't even mention that or defined that. But, then you are talking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:34 PM
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But, I thought most women were hypergamous , so naturally they would always choose the higher earning man by default. Like, 90% right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:36 PM
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You are talking about infidelity? Are you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:34 PM
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Imo, big picture here is that we are going through several big revolutions that are causing “growing pains” in modern relationships. The first is the fact that love relationships are a relatively new model. The second is the internet. The third is the strength of feminism relative to the stigma of mens issues. ​ Revolutions causing growing pains. True, but non-revolutions also do as well. E.g. if not for labor revolutions, people would still be working 6 day weeks with 12-16 hour days, while chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:34 PM
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A simple Google search shows that about 4% of men are unknowingly raising children who aren't theirs. Not even just one study, either. Of all the paternity tests done, about 30% come back "unrelated." The studies are there if you want to read them. ​ Are you actually reading these studies or see them in context. You are almost right at saying that men don't commit infidelity or have hand extramarital affairs unless the women are having affairs with other women. ​ 4% is an official state, 30% is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:20 PM
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I'll add this one as well: ​ But there are a few interesting phenomena. For one, men on the site tend to be more generous than women when it comes to rating attractiveness, leading to a nice bell curve with the bulk of ratings falling around ‘average’. But despite their fair ratings, they tend to ignore many of the women they find reasonably attractive and primarily target the most attractive females. What does attractive mean? How is an attractive person defined? Moreover, does a person label t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:59 PM
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The point is that women see 80% of men as unattractive, and that when they complain about men they are only talking about the men that they are actually trying to get. Based upon, what study, ancedotes, research, interviews, and etc? And even if it's true, don't men do the same thing? Do you believe in your hearts and research that 80%-100% of men will stay with their wives or partners through thick and thin? No infidelity or extra marital affairs, or have children outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 02:51 PM
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No sources cited. Where's your evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 02:41 PM
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would imagine many men resent this setup where there is a much smaller set of contexts (I.e. in a romantic relationship) which are deemed socially appropriate for a man to get social needs met. And women can use this, among other factors, to shoot above their league generally. Guys just want a woman who’s their equal partner while women can leverage their social connectedness to either have a lot of NSA sex or only settling for men above their league. So, you think all or most men, if they have …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 12:23 PM
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Relationship -- About 5 years (90% voluntary)/5 years (mixed) Sex -- Nearly 4.5 years (voluntary) 2 years (voluntarily) / 3-4 month hiatus (mixed, but voluntary if my life gets busy). Pan-, not heterosexual. Also, trans.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:27 AM
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40% of men are single! That's a HUGE number of single men! I think the difference here is that single women are typically single by choice. Not so for men. I posted a couple of weeks ago wondering why women seem so much more content to be single than to settle over men. Men who are perpetually single seem to lose their minds. Women get a cat. ​ ​ that most women are marrying a beta bux tells you that the bottom 80% men ARE getting into relationships and marrying the women that couldn't land a to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:02 PM
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What else can a woman provide that a man cannot get on his own? Romantic companionship, but the same can be said for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 08:37 PM
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I think the difference here is that single women are typically single by choice. Not so for men. How are women at fault for another man or person's predicament, especially if it is one that they haven't caused or been a part of. Nor benefit from it, directly. Shouldn't it be up to man to find ways to be happy and fulfilled besides romantic relationships? That's like me getting mad at neighbors that have being married for 40 years and the couple on next door for getting married and being happy. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 08:18 PM
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Don't twist my words or the study I presented. Because, essentially there's also 40% single women, if you also round up . 😉 In fact, the amount has exploded and been explored for women in the last 40 years and are willingly not marrying or have children. Unless, you think it should be their essential purpose. A relationship has to be fulfilling or enriching for them to want to consider participating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 06:42 PM
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are invisible and when they say "men", what they really mean are "men I'm attracted to". How do you know who is invisible and what women find attractive? Women find different things about men, attractive, just like men do. Some women aren't even heterosexual. The same with men. Oddly enough, those people are more likely to be single through their lifetime than heterosexual. Also, you have the percentage who do not want to date or be in relationships. What would inspire them to be in relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 06:18 PM
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Because, the 80% is patently false. Most adults are generally partnered in the US (65%-80%, both men and women). No reputable organization has reported 80% for any group at any given. The only groups who come close to this are elderly women and pubescent children. Demographically speaking, there's no group remotely close to 80%. In fact, there are quite a few demographics of people where there are substantially more single women, given population, biological factors, environmental factors, socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:12 PM
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You answered your question...children and partnership. Stability, perhaps. But, it's not something that I'd need to convince someone into if they don't want it. I'd imagine alot of women don't mind, but ideally some probably would want to be married, before having children. Men aren't forced into marriages, especially not in America. For the most part, unless it's not arranged. You can say no to anyone. What would keep a man from saying..."no."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:47 PM
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It does. OP and other average women might get married. But they're not going to be able to land the man they want. How do you know what the average woman wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:43 PM
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sacrificing themselves in war But, when was the last time a woman waged war or global conflict against another group that ended in mass casualties. E.g. Ukraine-Russia conflict, don't think too many women had say in that. If men **actually** did that, it would go much further and you could find partners in other places of the world without boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:26 PM
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Excellent point!!! ​ The person who doesn't ask, you want to provide generosity to for a result. ​ The person who demands generosity, has none to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 07:50 PM
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-- They are certain cars that people love that I don't like. BMW, Mercedes, or Ferraris, I'm not crazy about any of those brands of cars. Doesn't mean they are ugly, bad cars. Doesn't mean I hate them, I think they have some awesome models. THough, I don't personally want one. --- There are certain foods, I like to eat, and prepare a certain way. Those same foods are not liked by other people, or they may not like the way I prepare it. It doesn't make those people bad or less classy. They just d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:05 PM
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Yeah, I hate to say this and generalize, but I really don't think some guys on PPD understand or comprehend this. Someone can be exceptionally gorgeous, but you don't feel any sexual/romantic/visceral attraction to them. It could be a celebrity or random stranger. They are GORGEOUS, but I'm not attracted to them. That doesn't mean we see them as ugly or unattractive. Then, there is someone who you are just VISCERALLY attracted to regardless of how they look. Maybe, it's their look, smile, person…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 05:42 PM
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I'm pan, and can confirm the difference is astounding. Women often send other pictures of themselves, sexy pics and casual. Different angles, poses, expressions, and even lighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 08:25 PM
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With STDs or without, no regards to age, content, formation, and etc. But, if that's the case, damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:48 PM
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I'm more floored when someone shows me picture of a stylish outfit or interesting talent. ​ It's almost like someone going to a fried chicken restaurant, and someone there harps on how great hot dogs are and how I should try some. Show pictures of different well-prepared hot dogs of many sizes and formation. It's not necessarily rude, but very out of place and probably isn't what most of the customers there would want. If they wanted, they may ask for it or go to a place where hot dogs are being…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:47 PM
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There's lines between "being a certain law of the world" and "having no merit at all." Attraction is subjective but hovers within a range of objectivity; for example, could someone in good faith tell you the most attractive person in the world was literally ugly? Could someone tell you the ugliest person was attractive? And even if said person existed, wouldn't 99.9% of people agree, besides that person? ​ True, to an extent, but realistically speaking, I doubt most people, if any at all fall in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 02:33 PM
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Live life. Initiate conversations, typically something unique about her fashion or wardrobe, perhaps hobby, if you see. Ask a simple question ​ Attempt eye contact. Casual smile/greet. ​ If you are really desperate, you could peacock. ​ But, this is all the same stuff, you'd do to attract strangers attention, even women do these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 11:33 PM
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It isn't a tragedy if he is only looking for sex. PNC will clear that up real quick anyway. If he isn't having success at it, like a few men on this site haven't. Then, it seems like a tragedy ... for them. Because, they may complain about women not giving them the time of day to date or even "f##k."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:52 PM
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Here's the key to everything...online, in person, over the phone, chat, video chat, or in passing is communication. One great thing about online, you can weed out people, pretty quickly. The greatest tragedy is for the guy just looking for sex, he could've made a great friend, partner, or gained something else, besides a potential quick nut. Women, generally are at least gauging in some form or fashion the potential for a relationship or dating. Not saying they don't desire casual sex, many do. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:40 PM
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I am now coming to this realization at 25. As a woman, I feel this pressure to date men that would be good providers, husbands, fathers. And the reality you start having other issues that put a strain on the relationship like dead bedroom if the attraction isn’t there. You can have all of those that's not impossible, and you are only still 25. Is it something that will happen tomorrow or even within the next few years? It could, but it's not likely or even should be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:57 PM
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Again, these two are somewhat incomparable. Considering, how some women are flooded with messages and dms, I think alot of them aware of that and often don't respond to probably good bit of them. More or less, it would be hard for anyone to know who is actually looking for relationship or just sex, if they are flooded with alot of messages and DMs. If a person is bombarded with requests, I don't think they could effectively figure out what every person on their wants, nor it's not their job to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:53 PM
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Exactly, he just proved why this whole looksmatch scale is flawed and open to interpretation. Follow the original link and responses. You'll see why none of this is rational nor necessary. People like what they like.😉
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 03:02 AM
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Why is that a bad thing? Attractive guys are slumming, Attractive women are dating and marrying down, as you say. Why is that so horrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:06 AM
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That's if they get married, or around at all before the child is born. Also, remember some women die in childbirth and other reproductive problems. Also, is a woman still considered a viable partner if she can't have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 08:22 PM
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In your last two statements, you already proved why such concepts, systems, or rating inherently flawed, biased, somewhat problematic, and lack of precision.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:44 PM
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Isn't that a personal observation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:02 PM
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My HS probably wasn't a good measure. There were quite a few attractive boys and girls who never got asked out or were flirted off. There were both young men and women who weren't lookers or had fantastic bodies, but got alot of offers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:01 PM
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But from many on PPD, so-called ugly and fat women have many options, while there are women who date below their looksmatch, social status, and financial status. How does that happen? If I see it in public, should I call the police because the woman is holding him hostage to blackmail a higher value man into relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:57 PM
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It's going to be subjective in most regards. Race is already one of many attributes that will make such rating system slanted. Besides, why would race and ethnicity be off the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:52 PM
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If I was a 4/10 woman or 10/10 woman could still date 0-10/10 woman, if I liked them? As 10, I could still date 0 or 1 woman, right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:50 PM
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I'm a -5, fairly anti-capitalistic and I feel that the dating value system ... high value system; low value men and women; PUA; Alpha..Sigma...Beta; FDS, and incel cultures are all regressive trash and do very little to help dating scene, hook up scenes, dating apps, and romance culture. They all do it for $$$, trashy industries, and give them a reason to involve themselves into awful behaviors and views. Have lost hope in life and romance. Because, of images, they've formed in their mind from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:46 PM
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Women are their own little island, getting an objective opinion from them is impossible simply because there are so many different standards, women don't know what other women find attractive. ...maybe they don't find the same things, attractive. That's a pretty simple answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:34 PM
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You're right. I feel like there's alot of intimacy in sex for some people it is to have sex partners. Much more power to them, especially if they can do it happily and fulfilling. Though, not me, even as an ethical slut. Living with the stereotypes of being a trans woman and pansexual/romantic, maybe Black. So, I think people often thought I was open for sex 24/7, even though I am partially ace. I went 4 years voluntarily without sex, I thought it was a great period for my self development. Even…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:20 PM
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How would you know?🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:41 PM
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That's how I feel, too. I really don't get close to people, like that in any regards. It's kinda hard to explain to people, that I'm very "demi-," and physical looks, are pretty irrelevant, especially getting to know or vibe with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:24 PM
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That's how I feel, too. I really don't get close to people, like that in any regards. It's kinda hard to explain to people, that I'm very "demi-," and physical looks, are pretty irrelevant, especially getting to know or vibe with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:15 PM
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I guess with people who weren't traditionally attractive or what people would say are classical attractive, but why would I care about how someone else looks in a physical body sense, male or female. Any persuasion, it has absolutely nothing to do with me. I honestly don't care how people look unless it is a situation of mental health, substance abuse, or imminent danger. Alot of people, especially some men are obsessed with someone's physical body shape that they believe other people are wired …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 01:55 PM
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Hot people can get action. Are you saying hot women or anyone else whose hot can't? Ugly guys don't regardless. Even if they are rich, bad boys, high status, tall, good personality, good people, or in arranged marriage. So, how come ugly girls, some women, especially fences can't get laid or into romantic relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:04 PM
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You can be comfortable in that reality and see how awesome life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:44 PM
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What about nice or well-mannered person, who could hot or not hot? I could say the same about men, would they prefer hot bitch willing to give it up versus an ugly bitch willing to give it up. Like, guys are really loving girls on Instagram, OnlyFans, and PornHub for . . . their personality. 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:18 PM
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So, Hispanics, Black, Asian, gay, lesbian, bisexual, trans-, immigrants, and other groups of people don't experience hate speech on Facebook and other social media apps. Blatant disrespect or misinformation that is not removed even after being flagged and reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:01 PM
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Less, and in positive ways, though the extreme of the other side has gotten so toxic and reactionary that it's a bit troubling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:49 PM
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Right. Being an asshole works so well for so many guys that they still manage to be single, lonely, unpartnered, no sexual active partners, or...involuntarily celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:31 PM
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A chad is very specific, subset of men, who I dare say are fairly nebulous in how they exist. How would you know someone is exactly a Chad? Even, if they were, they may not see themselves as a Chad and in fact could be involuntary celibate, themselves. I have sneaky suspicion that most Chad wouldn't necessarily identify as Chad or even fit the description, totally. ​ That's why we hear it so much from the woman's perspective and not from men. Because, alot of incels display hatred against most, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:30 PM
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But, you are assuming that the people who tormented incels are strictly and only women. Which is pretty untrue and inaccurate. Even by their own accounts, many of them say they don't get noticed alot by women or girls (from their own perspective). Some even say they haven't any interactions with women, outside their family or girls in their communities. Though, I did notice many of them are teased and pressured into sex by their fathers, brothers, friends, or other male family members. I thought…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:52 PM
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I don't think people have problem saying that to men who are incels, but the problem with alot of incels is their venomous and hateful behavior. I've seen them on reddit, seen their messages from their hangouts, and people have posted them in blogs and videos. There's nothing wrong with being a virgin. ​ I won't say all, but many of their comments are very hateful of people in general. People from different ethnicities (Rice cel, Curry Cel, Black cel, Vol cel, Chaddam, Hector, and Tyrone); "...w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:53 PM
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Biggest thing from everything you said that some really are not understanding... it's directly at someone else's expense. I'm not saying women don't do this or incapable of it, but it is not as likely as it is with men. Many pill communities go into this and use this as an argument. Man's loneliness - The fault of women, because they don't approach him; pass him over online, or don't ask him out. Man's rejection by one or a handful of women (usually one's he doesn't even know or know very well) …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:32 PM
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But, the trick is no one is entitled to intimacy. There are alot of vital things in our society that people don't think we should be entitled to, even a few basic survival needs. What makes intimacy, anymore important than these other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:50 PM
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Deterioration doesn’t have anything to do with absolute levels or wealth or luxury, it’s about the direction. Luxury and wealth can be at an all time high and things can still be headed towards disaster. So, you think meeting basic needs, like shelter and food or living in a stable environment are ...luxuries. How does society sustain, itself without education; advanced medicine to combat illness, disease, harmful conditions, and plagues; and etc. Also, if everyone or most people have luxury and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:25 PM
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So, you're reserving your right to choose taller (because everyone else does it) and then later are trying to say that height isn't everything. Okay. I think you have done my work for me. Thank you. ​ I never said that everyone does it (at any point), but I did say society does have a preference towards taller people. If society puts those messages and images out there, along with people in your surrounding environment, it becomes a very hard cycle to break. I could use all of the -isms and -pho…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:27 PM
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OP, I know for me, I was voluntarily single for over 4 years, and not really seeking casual sex/hookups. I think I needed that period to clear my head and get myself together, quite bit, which I don't think alot of people do. Very often, people want someone who can be a steady sex partner/therapist/maid/ATM machine or etc. I could get my rocks off without other people (I had several toys and etc/self-satisfying). I can cook and clean my own house, just as much as I can make all of my own money a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:22 PM
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It’s the best chance we’ve got at surviving as a species. I completely disagree with that, especially going with your next statement. Look how quickly things are deteriorating. We are not adapted to the environment we’re creating and it’s happening too quickly for us to adapt. We need to slow the roll a bit, and if it’s not clear I’m not just talking about the evolving dating market, but that’s one of the foundations that society needs to function well at all costs. Still, this has a big effect …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:25 PM
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That's the thing about these conversations, anecdotes, or statements. Many women never actually said their spouses are unattractive/ugly. They simply said they are not attractive in the conventional sense (Society). They say that in how society see them, not how they see their partners as "individuals." Being gorgeous...attractive...attracted to...willing to have sex with ... having relationship with...having marriage or long term relationships. You realize those are six different things with si…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:42 PM
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Exactly, how would most woman or anyone, be able to choose the best person, if you have 20 or more guys sending one woman messages at one time. 20% are "Hey, you." 20% are "novel-sized," 40% are "clearly sexual," 10% are pretty general," and 10% are ...just there." With some sites, especially free sites that are geared more towards hookups, the ratios are heavily skewed towards men at literally 7:3 /8:2 ratio. While, for paid dating sites, their ratios are nearly reversed being skewed towards wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:15 AM
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Yes, men from any walk of life, regardless of their looks or achievements.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:33 AM
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Exclusivity, what makes you think that guy will be faithful to you, or even care about you, simply because he is average? What if said woman doesn't want children? What makes you think she'll be a fit or even decent mother? A functioning society, like societies from the early 200ss, going back to pre-historic periods. That's not much of motivator.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:32 AM
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Yea. You're correct. How dare I question your right to privilege a superficial non-changeable attribute because it instinctively services your basest instincts? Holding women to a higher standard? Please. If you are not doing that to other men, institutions, or different types of people? why is it so imperative that women do it? What gives them the ability to go against the grain of society? At what cost, and even if they did would put your own life on them to go against the grain of society. ​ …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:25 AM
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Yes. Society rewards tall. It's not a moral quality, it's not a character quality, it's not a changeable quality. We give tall people enormous advantages in society. Is it right or wrong? I don't know. Tall people didn't do any extra work to be born tall. Shorter people have no control over how they're born and they can't change it after they're born. It is what it is I guess. Your logic is essentially - society agrees, so why can't women also? It's the same justification through the observation…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 02:00 AM
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Again, you are discounting inter-personal dynamics, communication, impressions, empathy, interests, goals, lifestyles, beliefs, occupation, effort, romantic energy, eros, chemistry, personalities, and etc. You need all of those things to go right or somewhat right for relationship to succeed. Male, female, non-binary, agender, and etc, you have to be open and willing. Just like men, women can also shoot themselves in the foot by being rash, emotional, being shallow, or not really seeing a person…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 11:26 PM
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Gee, maybe that could be related to the fact that the overwhelming majority of women of ALL heights report preferring to date men who are taller. Society prefers taller men. Companies prefer taller men as leaders. Other men give more respect to taller men (sometimes if they're more muscular). Directors/Producers prefer taller actors. People are amazed by taller people. Animals fear or will conform (more domesticated ones) to taller and bigger people. Coaches/Scouts/Trainers/GMs/Promoters (still)…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:41 PM
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Numbers really don't matter at the end of the day, maybe people should just date people who they will be happy with and have healthy relationship. There's nothing more complicated than that. People have their preferences, which is fine. Everyone doesn't have the same preferences, and some times they aren't even physical or shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:09 PM
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I agree with you, Dreams. It's like the women on this sub or in general are pretty gaslighted. Basically, a strawman argument that you cannot win. There's no point in debating or giving your actual feelings. The Pill Philosophy and Bro speak is very incendiary, accusatory, and undermines the experience of an actual person. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You say -- "I love my husband/bf, because he is very charming and funny. He's not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:55 PM
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Since when is a lack of in-group tribalism an excuse for out group people to not help the suffering? "I see you suffering and I could help you but won't until people that look like you do it first." Nice. I don't think you understand this part, because with out-group people they also experience these things, like suicide, depression, underachievement, homelessness, and loneliness. I hate when people use the word, "tribalism," because that is something an institution or society has already setup …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:05 PM
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Tall and ugly= will have a harder time finding dates -- Based upon? I thought most men at least from this site said they wouldn't mind finding their looksmatch. ​ Tall and pretty= will have a easier time finding dates -- Perhaps, though there are many tall women, some of them are absolutely gorgeous and even models themselves say that they have hard time finding a date or men are intimidated by them. Even, the trans- thing comes up, sometimes. ​ That's assuming they're not fat. -- Looksmatching.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:36 PM
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Is it a crime to just like a person for who they are? Why is such a brain-melt that not all people are crazy thirsty for Chads (or Stacys), especially women. Unless, some people think women aren't actually people or have the qualities to person or individual. Maybe, it's just because heteronormative values and expectations are so warped, toxic, demanding, and brutal, that men (and some women) cannot see beyond a default girlfriend/wife/partner. Like, just only cooking, cleaning, sex, listen to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:40 PM
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This is one place, where someone can say their spouse is great, attractive (to them), has a charming personality, and is fantastic partner. It turns into someone (esp. a woman), who still has a desire for a CHAD at some core part of their identity, soul, and psychology, because everyone is turned on by looks. Because, most, if not all men would get a Stacey, if she was available, so naturally women would do the same for a Chad. By the account of OP, women are attracted to different things about …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:32 PM
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Yet, there are many tall women who get stereotyped into people thinking that they only like taller men. They also get stuck with the awkward, a little too big for me. Hell, some of them even get accused of being "trans-," if they are exceptionally tall. They have to their own personal insecurities, but let's be honest, they probably encounter a good number of men who are insecure about taller women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:10 PM
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...I dare say even get a sense of pleasure from it or need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:00 AM
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I know it's a very shallow argument, and one that many men have put themselves into without provocation. Anyone can be gatekeeper for any particular thing. Companies don't have all the power in bargaining agreements and in actuality they could lose that power from laborers or consumers. The same dynamic with law enforcement and citizenry. Inmates and guards. Teachers or students. It's very nuance how does dynamics can play out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:34 PM
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Why is the same never done for male suicide, male underachievement, male homelessness, male loneliness? Do men who have means, resources, and ability make this priority #1 for young boys or other men? That's almost like saying that non-White people (esp. Black people) should be cognizant of the struggles of poor White people, or White people who are in the middle or working class. It's like telling a group of gay men that they need to consider the feelings of all heterosexual men at any given tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:21 PM
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Thats not ‘love’ to me. That husband/wife could be replaced by another individual who ticks the checklists, but thats not LOVE as in loving them as a person. ​ I guess I can only speak for myself, not other people. Though, I know for me, I'm probably what you call somewhat of classical romantic type. That's probably a big reason why I am pan-/queer-/demi- with the mantra of "love has no boundaries." Especially, if it is honored and worked for, as well understood and mutual. I hate TRP/RP/incel/F…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:51 PM
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You know everything in many of these scenarios are generalized, how you act as individual is one thing, but what other people do we can be too sure about. ​ The problem is women complain about being approached whatsoever. Some women complain about being approached whatsoever, and they do have right to feel that way. Other women love the extra attention they get, and some women (I know this will be hard for RP/PP/incels to believe ... don't get approached at all), for whatever reason. If I can fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:18 PM
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Signals are a great key to communication, especially non-verbal communication. That's why some men (and women), as well are more successful with gaining favor from people, because they are socially aware. I know that it is very much a key to winning some people over or at least gaining some agreement from them. I learned that growing up, also from being a sales-person; in hospitality; working with children and adults (special needs); and customer service. I don't think if people are aware how th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:11 PM
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I know I'm probably in different category to some people, but considering I'm a trans woman. You know we are stereotyped and notorious for being "thirsty for attention, especially from men...cis-het men at that." I also throw in pan-, pan-sexual and pan romantic. So, y'know another meaning for someone who could be interested in everyone. I digress, but the number of men who caught my eye and attention for than a few seconds. .. over the last decade or so...Going back to 2010. ********* A grand t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:03 PM
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Think about all of those sales people or religious people that try to talk to you in public. Just imagine all of those people were trying to talk to you at the mall, restaurant, store, gym, or park. Don't you think that would be a little bit annoying, especially when you have an idea of what they want from you. I think anyone, male or female with any identity would get annoyed with that over time. It makes a situation, much worse when they don't take no for an answer or harass people. Instead of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:06 PM
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Visible frustration/disinterest No eye contact In the process of walking and ambling away. Backing away. Folded arms Turning her/his back. "Farewell greeting is spoken." Calling for someone else. Show you a ring. They may mention their partner or spouse. Showing sense of agitation. Hesitation. In a rush (in general) or becomes in rush, when you start to try to talk to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:04 PM
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Irrelevant, it means nothing. If you are trying to find a good partner, I think it is more about being the best partner you can be. Prize implies a competition, but if someone really cares about you. You don't need to compete for them. But, if you are chasing after a certain type of person, then I guess it would matter much more, because you are somewhat competing against other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:15 PM
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I think it's all ridiculous how people (esp. some men) carry on like this. I won't single them out, because women can do the same thing, but in different ways. Though, this is about men -- who will often get upset with women, because they aren't more competitive in dating market or having as much success as their friends, family member, random guys, or ..."the Chads." So, I feel like it's getting mad at someone else (you don't even know) for not getting a job you wanted or even an item you saw f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:14 PM
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<---- Non-heterosexual and not with a man, dodged a high caliber bullet. Also, the other 99% of women don't need to be like me, in fact, I'd say they are probably alot less pickier than I am. I see many guys and would give them absolutely no chance, and it has almost nothing to do with their looks or supposed financial status.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:26 AM
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Again, you are comparing apples and oranges. The two fields are nothing, alike, and require different skill sets. Harder is a mere observation or opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:21 AM
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Well, it's a very nuanced answer, because it isn't a simple question unless I was a mild simpleton with a little understanding of how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:20 AM
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AquaChip, you also forgot to add divorces exploded in post-WWII, just as single parent households were actually growing, during that era through the modern 80s. Housewifery, in it's modern conception is mostly a value born of a Victorian and Puritan eras of history (and it was reserved for mostly wealthy families). Most women around the world had to work and held many of the same jobs as men, even the physically tolling jobs. They worked out in fields, sweatshops, with lumber, in coal mines, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:33 PM
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To be honest, I've done both, and they are both pretty difficult jobs in many different ways. Construction work can be physically exhausting and tiring, yet teaching is mentally exhausting and it's a position that requires exhaustive training to be decent at. You have to be able to handle children, keep their interests, literally take care of them, and pray that you can get them to learn new material, every day. Even with teachers growing tiresome and school system becoming desperate for a lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:23 PM
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You should really spend 7 - 9 hours a day, trying teach and maintain order among a group of 4-17 year old for five days a week for an entire year. We'll see if you feel the same way, afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:13 PM
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Actually, how is that even the case, when it was Republicans who started to pass anti-trans/LGBTQ bills, back in 2011 (trans-gender laws), and they went into over drive around 2014. The Left )for the most part) was already accepting trans-people as a protected class. Which is why people, including the Left demonize Republicans/right-wing media, because they are heavily invested in transphobia. They turned it from a small kitchen fire into a wild city wide forest fire. Especially, when they've co…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:11 PM
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But, some how I've slept with guys who were not and would not be considered hot, how is my...wap working with these people and other women. Is it malfunctioned, because I honestly don't care if someone is hot, there's so much more interesting things you can find in person that their raw, physical looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:28 AM
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Emotionally, how are people supposed to live?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:26 AM
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Perhaps not, but he's not in Thor's range. Though, to be fair and relevant to context, most of the articles I posted are from 2019 and much earlier. To further push this point, most heart-throbs, now and in pass fall into K-Pop/J-Pop to those older rock stars in their primes. Very smaller framed, skinny, and even shorter men with very little muscle definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:48 PM
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Many women prefer Loki, as many men prefer (or think women like) Thor. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1sizvl/why_do_so_many_women_like_loki_from_the_thor/ https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/bk9l68/why_is_mcu_loki_so_popular_with_women/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/9aav5s/why_are_male_characters_like_loki_considered/ https://www.tor.com/2021/07/20/loki-as-other-why-do-queer-and-female-viewers-love-the-trickster/comment-page-1/ https://forums.giantitp.com/sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:17 AM
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Men go more for looks than women. Women have other things maybe more important than that. Men are more centred on looks. Exactly, that's been most of the points made above. It's not to say some women don't focus, primarily on looks, because I do. OP says that women don't care about personality as much as they say, yet what is the entire reference point of it. Especially, when your argument is saying that men are mostly concerned about looks. But, to make it seem like it's a bad thing when women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:58 PM
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So, how can anyone make that determination about women going for looks, when they may or may not be the case, especially in the beginning? Also, it's relation to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:38 AM
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Speaking of which why is it so common to see older wealthier men go for younger and more nubile women for wives, girlfriends, or mistresses. And are 8x times as likely to leave and divorce their partners suffering from cancer or terminal illness. Men really do go for personalities, more often than shallow b!+chest who ride off the first cute face with a c*ck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 10:36 PM
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If she's anything close to the image of the "Ugly Duchess," I sincerely doubt it. It says nothing, but people are into looks. Not everyone, but let's not delude ourselves into believing it's primarily a female trait versus a human one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:07 PM
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I love your response. People say when you are happy being single or not dating anyone. Some assume that you are feminist or "have something against men." Even being bi/pan/ace, sometimes even being a lesbian, some people feel like you have something against men; have been jilted by men; or need to find that right man (or dick/cock/penis) to help them. Which sometimes is true, but most times, it's not even remotely close to that. Feminism is often the "scapegoat," though that was the whole purpos…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:55 PM
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Again, to 213322's point, you have that option on the table to be in a love-based relationship, financially dependent marriage or relationship, or you can fly solo for the rest of your life with FWB, groupies, bachelors/bachelors, or be ace. Each individual in a free society has that option. ​ What's point of incentivizing marriage? Especially, if divorces and alimonies are still occurring and as you say men end up getting the shorter end of stick, more or less. What does that actually do for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:34 PM
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I agree, the more freedom people have without involving others is much better than not. If all or most men and women can take care of themselves and acquire their own resources and stability. I don't see the harm in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:23 PM
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So, should we ... force people to have sex and enforce monogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:21 PM
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Which record did he break or match? ​ https://www.britishpowerlifting.org/records https://www.britishpowerlifting.org/documents/3086_female_equipped_records_25-01-22.pdf https://barbend.com/powerlifter-tamara-walcott-deadlifts-all-time-female-raw-world-record-636-pounds/#:~:text=News-,Powerlifter%20Tamara%20Walcott%20Deadlifts%20All%2DTime%20Women's%20Raw%20World,of%20288.5%20Kilograms%20(636%20Pounds) ​ https://barbend.com/andrea-thompson-strongman-deadlift-world-record/ ​ https://www.powerlift…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:58 PM
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Fake news story.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:58 AM
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Name the records that have been broken?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:57 AM
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Yeah, it's not even as effective or relevant as someone's horoscope. If someone calls themselves "alpha" or other people call them that...what does that even mean in a realistic situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:50 PM
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At the time, or any given time. Needed to work on myself -- self-esteem wise, build trust in others, make myself happy (like I did in past), and raise my standards. Just dating anyone is a recipe for disaster. I was happy being alone, by myself, or unpartnered after a few months and years. I could spend all of my time energy on myself and friends. Most people in person and OLD were already not serious about dating and wasn't attracted to them. Sex came put pretty quickly and harf. Not "dating fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:13 PM
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Can you prove that they did and they enjoyed, on multiple occasions? ​ What has she done wrong for you not to want to date her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:46 PM
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Dude, how do you even know that? How do you know his penis size or if he even had one? How do you even know how they were having sex, if any at all? Who is to say it was enjoyable for either party? ​ Dude, you are shooting yourself in the foot on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:40 PM
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I see what both of you are saying, but WilliamWyattD does have good point, men from higher socio-economic status (50k - 1 Bill.+) will date a woman with much less resources, as much as he would date one with higher resources. It's not to say women don't, because they do as well, and very often. It's just that men are more likely to do it. More men are not opposed to the idea. A man that makes $60 k - $100 K, dates a woman who makes less than $40 K, for the most part, if she is taking care of her…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:08 PM
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Exactly!!! That's what they aren't getting. For what they consider are standards for women (everything), but for men only looks and possibly personality. Women consider many things beyond those two facets, because they are actually evaluating their partners as if they are compatible, have chemistry, or they'll be able to live together. In PPD, or with RPs/incels, it's like a woman sees a gorgeous, 6 foot plus, man who seems to have alot of resources will instantly fall in love or give the guy a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:36 PM
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I'm going to be honest, SwimmingTheme3736. I think most women's standards in real life, are actually pretty low, and I dare say even lower than men's, sometimes. They won't agree to this, but I've seen it with my own eyes, through their own admission, their partner's admission, family's admission, online videos, blogs, and even Reddit. ​ They, by an observing, eye date down. A woman makes more money and is either above average in looks or absolutely gorgeous. But, the husband is pretty average i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:25 PM
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Also, who cares? If that's the case, how come you don't ask the men who sleep with them about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:01 PM
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So, are gay men flirtatious nature unacceptable, while straight men's aren't? Kinda hypocritical, don't you think. That uncomfortableness some men feel from being hit on by gay men or women that aren't attracted to is how some women feel when you shoot your shoot. Some gay men really love dick and want other men to entertain them. Why should they be left out shooting their shots? Let's at least be consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:08 AM
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I partnered, presently. Though, even when I was single, I often did say no or said I was in a relationship. Most guys leave at that, but some don't press on. Or feel like I am rejecting them, when I don't even know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:56 PM
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the only women that were ever interested in me were ugly and fat So, not telling you what kind of preferences to have, but wouldn't you be as guilty as anyone else at perpetuating a cycle of where people date totally on looksmatching. What do you consider to be ugly or fat? Many aspects of those can and often are relative, do you also fall into these categories?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:07 PM
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Who deems a man unattractive? ​ Even, if he is, how come some unattractive men, regardless of their socio-economic status able to still attract women, be in relationships, and marry? There are many relationships, which have women as the bread winners. I know this is only marriage, but 32% of wives out earned their husbands in 2020. Before anyone screams, "hahaha." That number has doubled from 1981...https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/only-30-percent-of-us-wives-earn-more-than-their-husbands-data/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:29 PM
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For guys, it does hurt, but a woman especially in passing shouldn't take the burden of that in anyway. Because, she cannot solve your problem. ​ Same thing with a woman who expects anything of a man, when he has shown no interest or given indication of affection, sex, or relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:24 PM
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A. If you play it safe every time then you'll never get called a creep, but you'll also end up alone. OR B. If you take risks when they reasonably make sense (the woman is friendly or enthusiastic towards you) then you have nothing to lose if you make a move politely and take no for an answer. At worst she'll judge you for a few seconds and you'll never see her again anyway. A. Not necessarily, true. What would make you think that? I feel like women drop alot of hints, but sometimes guys don't r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:21 PM
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That's great, I'm not saying people cannot flirt or act on initiating a date with someone, though it is certain way that it is done and doesn't make it harder for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:40 PM
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THat's true in many ways, but external validation can be just powerful, if not more. It always depends on the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:12 PM
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Women compliment or are polite to other women (older, younger, different ethnicities, religions)-- Neither one expects a date, usually. Women compliment or are polite non-heterosexual men -- Neither one expects a date. Women compliment or are polite an animal or pet -- For the most part, neither one expects a date. Women compliment or are polite to children -- For the most part, no one expects a date. Women compliment or are polite to a heterosexual men (18-50 ish_ -- I''d say most would not exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:29 PM
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Though, the big problem with that is assumption/presumption. So, how would you feel if men started to talk and flirt with you, after a mild compliment or you just being polite to them or etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:39 PM
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Pretty much, anyone on the clock is doing their job and smiling at everyone and being inviting. ​ Also, some people (alot of whom are women) are in general just warm and polite, even positive. They care about their fellow people enough to be polite to them. People are not obligated to smile or be inviting to you, much less. Though, I wonder how some men would feel if no woman smiled; gave them compliments; conversated with them; or I dare say really acknowledge them as people unless they were in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:32 PM
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Is it not an interesting question for this subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 02:11 PM
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like how you worked in racist, sexist, and homophobic. It wouldn't be reddit without that dropped in. If it weren't so casual on Reddit, other platforms, and real life. I doubt I feel the mention the mention, though it's somewhat common in this subreddit. It often appears when these things have nothing to do with a topic. It strikes me as odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:40 AM
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Actually, none, but like FDS...there are some very toxic, problematic, and vile attributes that could create a very awful person. It makes a person short-sighted, like a racist, sexist, homo/transphobic person. When you start to pain an entire or strictly regimented group of an entire people, it tends to breed mentality, similar to what happened in Nazi Germany with Hitler and the rise of the Nazi party. I dare say what happened, during Reconstruction after the Civil War, especially in South wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:20 PM
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I have two eyes😶 and listen to what's being said. You want me to list all of the occasions I've seen, heard, or said in person online. You want me to list the most previous ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:11 PM
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In my opinion, the problem with Netflix is that it's designed to be addictive. The way that they automatically skip the end titles and go on to the next episode. I think it would be probably beneficial to drop Netflix and watch movies/shows elsewhere. Plus Netflix is missing tons of stuff. Most of my favorite shows are not on Netflix. Don't know why people are so crazy about Netflix. There are other places you could watch shows/movies.. places that seem far better. ​ Fair assessment, but the arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:52 PM
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People getting married is only 1 part of the dating scene. Just because a select (increasingly smaller) group of people find success doesn't mean the dating scene as a whole isn't getting worse. Worse compared to what exactly, what phenomenon is being pushed away. If a person has social anxiety or awkwardness in real life, how does that change their situation? Also, if a person is not successful in online dating, I'm likely to assume they are having a tough time in real life (in person) dating o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:46 PM
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I'd think nothing initially. Maybe, be called "girly," "effeminate," "gay," "f-word," or a "p#ssy." Who would perpetuate that kind of harassment on insult, most likely another man or boy? ​ I say this who is more likely to bully a young boy or young man in school or public, even with adult men. Who is responsible for most of the violent, abuse, sexually molestation, assault, harass, bully, or murder men or boys...other men and boys. ​ Yet, there's a reason for them to have so much animus for wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:20 PM
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eems like an exaggeration to me. Women have always been far pickier than men which will lead to them leaning towards unrealistic. But when the dating culture is focused on relationships instead of casual sex and the internet doesn't let them have such a large pool of dating options their expectations as a group will be far more reasonable ​ Women are free to choose whoever they please, just as men are free to choose whoever they please, as long as it's reciprocated with the person of their affec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:55 PM
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I don't think these things are inherently bad or that everyone who uses them is going to become socially inept. But there a significant portion of the population who are practically addicted to these social substitutes who would have been normal functioning individuals before these things existed. So, what would they be doing instead of watching these streaming services or participating in social media. You do realize people can do those things, while working out, cooking, at work, library, trav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:21 PM
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Gladly!!!😁 One they all support the progress of free-market ideas. Netflix (and other video/movie/visual streaming services) ​ If you are a filmmaker, you have many more chances to showcase your work, find funding, distribution, and a market for your film or TV show. It eliminates some (not all of the) gatekeeper that is done in the entertainment industry. Also, a bigger budget isn't always required. If you are a consumer, you can watch hundreds or thousands of films, TV shows, and programmes at…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:07 PM
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I didnt mean to imply the internet was the only cause, just the main one in terms of whats causing issues today. But you are right that the trend of the gender drifting apart has been happening for decades. It just seems like the dating scene pre-internet while far from perfect, was healthier and more sustainable. I say that it is inconclusive or somewhat disagree. I've already pointed to divorce rates across different decades. Although, marriage rates has declined, while divorce rates have stea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:03 PM
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Because it likely wouldn't make a difference. If a woman I was very interested in back in say High School, somehow found my phone number and started texting me, I likely wouldn't be interested and would write her off in fairly short order. The boy she was fucking then had to pay no cost, so why do I have to pay with my time? I'll use her for sex, but then she has to leave. ​ Here's the jig "...why would someone care about someone who they interested in them from high school? High school equating…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 04:04 PM
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And, that's why these frustrated guys keep striking out or have no self-confidence, because their own fellow men don't actually care about them. and they chalk up their successes with women to their personality and game usually, also you can’t use seeing one random couple when you don’t know if the dude was rich, used to be good looking, or was just a rare exception to the rule (maybe the women was not conventionally attractive as well). That's actually true, but when I have heard, listen to, wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:56 PM
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Moving in together, getting married, making it official, sharing bank information etc is all taboo by date 3. But sex isn't? ​ Even if they do want a relationship, in the early stages, it is way too presumptuous and premature to get to the point of "wanting kids and living together, early." ​ Sex on the first date is fine, but sharing finances, moving in together, dating exclusive, disclosure about "STDs (STD test)"/other partners/having other children/crazy exes or family members/ other health …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:42 PM
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I agree, abaxeron. If men or women were actually complimentary... divorces, separations, break-ups, infidelity, and any form of abuse would not exist. Every man would offer himself to any woman, just as any woman would take any man who need a complimentary partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:07 PM
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So, why don't other men comfort or encourage men of lesser value? Because, there are many men who are not rich or middle class, nor are conventionally attractive, but have no problems with meeting or dating women. User error seems to common across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:02 PM
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This is only partially true, because these trends before the internet became popular and popular culture were talking about the decline in dating, back in the early 70s. That people did not need to couple, anymore, because of changing attitudes in sex, dating, and independence. You don't need to marry someone to have sex or children with. Unrealistic expectations can happen, anywhere, but people are free to choose whoever they please. I actually feel like NetFlix, dating apps, and social media h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:56 PM
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Fixed -- Many struggle, because they are expecting sex from a mere date or mild interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 10:50 AM
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No decision-- I think I'd need to date or talk to either of them, before I choose. These are some very basic details about someone's life. It tells me absolutely nothing about the person. Moreover, I'm not even sure if we'd have chemistry with one another or even be interested in dating one another. Way to many factors that could take place, before relationship is made.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:48 AM
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Is vetting a bad thing? Some people may have a lot of red tape and that's ok. There's nothing wrong with that. Beyond looks and general personality, perhaps domestic roles? There are so many intermittent factors that affect a relationship. It's not even funny. How's the person's temperament? What kind of job or income does this person have? Can they take care of themselves? How long have they had this job? How's their relationship with their family? If it's fractured, you may want to know. Who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:41 PM
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Funny. If you stop reading there, you sound like a man. Those traits don’t matter to most men. That's the thing about women they tend to assess the total package of a person, a little more. With many guys, it's mostly looks, occasionally personality. With alot of women, it's different attributes. Also, they do it much more often than many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:07 PM
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I agree what OP says about some men and women believe or act like that, but to put all or most in that category is short-sighted. Men and women are equally diverse people, which also includes their sexuality and romantic inclinations. I know I'm a weirdo in this subreddit, not only being trans- and pan-. Also, queer and have no interest in looks-maxmizing or hypergamy. I genuinely prefer the individual over anything else. Oddly enough, I've noticed it in many other people who are in fact cis- an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:03 PM
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It's almost as bad, as "you are in my thoughts and prayers." It's not bad on the surface, but given the condition or circumstances it can be very nebulous and dismissive. I dare say condescending. Of course, people know they have to work to get things or do things to earn value. It's almost stating the obvious, especially when it comes from someone who is in a position of privilege or on a higher platform. You almost have to find or gain knowledge of certain things without people telling you or …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:48 PM
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Yes, if you don't take basic safety precautions its your fault. Applies to guys also That's what many women take into consideration. 😉 Now, you see where we are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:52 PM
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I left it in my answer, and said (many) men don't value safety in the same way women do. If something happens to that women or girl, many people (both male and female) will say she should not have been out, so late...she should've chose better guy/people to hang out with ... she should've dressed a certain way...she should've had a weapon. Part of it is her fault, again. Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:26 PM
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Can I be your ride-or-die chick on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:06 PM
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Men get robbed and attacked too at night. Women think that only happens to them,? I know this is controversial, especially on PPD, but maybe because women do value their safety and surroundings a little more. Counter-argument #1 -- "Just carry a gun or a weapon, you'll be fine." That goes back to her point. Counter-argument #2 -- "You could always go out with your friends or family." Thanks for the suggestion 😊 Counter-argument #3 -- BIG advice always given to women from some men, "...Just be mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:42 PM
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So, by that notion, shouldn't men be far more concerned about other men and their own livelihood than what women are doing with their time, money, and attention? Men bully, harass, assault, attack, rape, sexually assault, and kill other men at more astronomical rates than women. But, why are women the problem in this equation and reason for so much frustration in the TRP/incels groups. I'm not saying women don't do these things or participate in them, they obviously do. Though, not nearly as muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:35 PM
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Depends on the individuals, families, and schools involved. I believe the best village wins, and that all depends who is running or involved with making the village :). ​ Situation 1 (A): Two very hard working parents who are still attentive to their children's needs. Children go to very good schools, good neighbors, and supportive family members. have responsible Maximizes the household potential, as well as the future of their children, especially if they are starting at 160K a year vs. 80k. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:14 PM
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So, now we know the source of the problem of OP's observation. Although, I think he's completely wrong in assertation about society where men's standards are low, in that regard. I actually believe it's the other way around, where men still are encouraged and congratulated for getting a conventionally "beautiful" woman and having a high status job. Who are the most revered men in our society -- Athletes, celebrities, lawyer, politician, war heroes, law enforcement, or high-powered corporate busi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:56 PM
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I agree, but 5% that's unrealistically low, given the marriage rates, numbers of partnered people, and successful longer termed relationships. Even taking OLD into consideration, the numbers will be skewed, especially if a platform has many more male users than female users, or vice versa. If someone is not having success, OLD, you can try other apps or meet people through off-line groups, clubs, hobbies, or events. It's not like it's a hopeless endeavor that people make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 01:13 AM
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Lots of guys are attracted to girly women, but they don't look for "friendship" in their relationships. ​ I know everyone has different aims in relationship. I know for me I'd want a friendship with someone I'm dating, or the relationship would serve no purpose to me unless it was purely sexual or financial, perhaps just a glorified "roommate." True, there women who don't mind being treated, "like, girls," or as with guys no friendzone, whatsoever. I don't even know how I would connect to a pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:53 PM
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Probably, I'd hope so, but I also say the same for incels and TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:53 PM
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I'm pretty much married at this point to another woman, but when I dated guys ... the least of their worries was me paying for a date or my own portion of the meal. No discussions about family, children, and income ever came up. Never expected a guy to provide me with anything, whatsoever in the vein -- no money...no rides home...no sex...or lifestyle changes. I got the sense that some men aren't necessarily looking for an ideal partner, but more of a domestic sex bot who is also a provider (and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:35 PM
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Many of terms are so nauseating and revolting, you'll wish that you never knew what they were.😫
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:15 PM
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It's a crap shoot, like anything else in life. Though, from the way many of them talk, probably not much. I say the same for anyone who is in similar group of any gender. ​ Besides, I loathe the terminology ... "HVM/W, LVW/M." It's completely arbitrary and lacks many real world factors that are needed to find a suitable mate, along with one who is personally interesting to you as an individual, yet secure, loyal, and comforting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 03:39 AM
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Yes, I don't really mind. My partner and I decided earlier on no children or marriage, which was perfectly fine by me. Though, she is one of the few people on the planet that I actually would marry. ​ Me* -- trans woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:39 AM
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Magical reimagination -- Divorce rates were much higher in the past. When some of our grandparents were at marriage age and still young. Divorce were astronomical, after WWII. Then, exploded again from the mid 70s to late 90s, so again most of these are baby-boomers and people born late in the WWII generation. With perhaps, a few Gen-Xers, because most of them weren't quite adults, or very young adults. Divorce was impacted by legal changes and definitions. Also, just because people stayed marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:37 PM
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Entitlements -- both men and women. People, especially online seem to be awfully entitled to many things or expect alot of things from mere strangers. Almost like para-social relationship, you don't know any of these people online, much less your peers, co-workers, and certainly not strangers in public. You may have romantic feelings for them, but their mind is in completely different place than yours. Furthermore, if they have never reciprocated the same feelings (a particular crush), there's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:56 PM
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I agree, Bendetto. Some people are often so caught up into looks that they don't consider what other aspects may come into play, such that person's temperament, level of happiness, and most of all, their own mental health. Especially, amongst, the Pilled or incel communities, there's this hyper focus on material things or surface level judgement, such as looks, height, weight, and finances. We grossly over look things, such as that person's happiness, experiences, background, hobbies, talents, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:37 AM
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Preferences for not being an a-hole/c#-+ to strangers, wait staff, crew, and homeless people (esp. If they are minding their business) is pretty high. Entitled, arrogance, disrespectful, and condescending kills the mood, pretty quickly. Talking too much about exes, especially in negative manner. Physical preferences - Pretty close to none, but ... I'm a sucker for people with great, stylish, or unusual fashion. That's it. My spouse is not someone I dreamed or I imagined marrying. But, she is bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:56 AM
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I'm really hating this thread with an almost utter distaste. Because, women are literally telling PP men until they are blue in the face that they are simply being pleasant and encouraging to our fellow people. Some have even admitted that they do the same thing with men, or believe men should encourage other men or pick up their self-esteem. They've been honest about their intentions. I see nothing wrong with that. Again, for myself, I'm not looking to gain anything, just as much as I am lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:58 PM
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Again, other women have said that they do it to be nice or building up another women. My reasons are pretty similar, I'm usually respectful and pleasant to every and anyone, regardless of gender, most especially if they are respectful and pleasant, back. I don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable, or jilted, if they have not approached me in that manner. Everyone does not have a greedy, selfish, or even I dare say a capitalistic mindset or forming some type of social hierarchy. Our societies have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:16 PM
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We never said we were ;). At least, not from us, certainly not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:39 AM
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Where are these men that are being called studs for hooking up? You mean like a lady killer or a Casanova. ​ Movies: The Last American Virgin American Pie (series) The entire James Bond series ​ TV Shows (pretty much any teen show over the last 40 years) Saved By the Bell (Zack Morris & AC Slater) -- technically we don't know if they had sex with most of those girls, but you can see them getting a hands for having success with the girls. Nip/Tuck (Christian Troy) Two and Half Men (Charlie Harper…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:24 PM
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People think celebrities have some magical powers and are inherently shallow -- nearly always hypergamous for looks and financial status. Even though, many people are, and like most people, celebrities act accordingly. On the flipside, like many other people, many celebrities married the best for themselves, not necessarily concentrated on looks and finances. They marry people that they work the best or give them the most comfort and security in a relationship. Someone that they can trust and he…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:56 PM
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Entertainment. See how I should handle or encounter certain people, if I have to deal with them in a public setting. It seems frightening how some PP/red pill people are potential walking land-mine, where they have animus for people who mean them no harm or no type of connection to them. Some posters are almost as bad as the type of women that are the subject of topic, if not worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:36 PM
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Wouldn't that be the fault of people who run society? Why don't men challenge other men with more power than them to change these horrible structures? If it is so horrible for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:24 PM
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I have absolutely nothing gain as a non-heterosexual woman, nor anything to lose. I believe even if I were perfectly heterosexual/romantic. It changes nothing in my personal arena. I'd still pay compliments to women of any and all persuasions with all their unique beauties. It doesn't mean anything, if you believe so...tell me these gains or losses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:57 AM
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Again, why would that be important, especially if two people are already in a relationship or married? While, that also says that this whole thing shows that these ratings are completely arbitrary, nebulous, and open to interpretation. ​ Just because a woman is elite in so-called conventional attractiveness doesn't mean she'll get what she wants, just the same with the "so-called" ugly or obese women. It's the same for men. Some people get exactly, what they want, while others don't get what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:32 PM
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You know those numbers don't match up, right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:21 AM
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If there's a woman who can/could block for a 1,000 yard rusher and beautiful or attractive to some people. She'd be in damn near peak physical condition and be the toughest player on offense, arguably. Have you seen the shape of most NFL FBs through its history. Greater power to her. I'd admire her even more, perhaps a career fan. I hope a woman like that plays in the NFL one .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:38 AM
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If there's a woman who can/could block for a 1,000 yard rusher and beautiful or attractive to some people. Greater power to her. I'd admire her even mor, perhaps a career fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:26 AM
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Homeless person doesn't have a home/shelter from the elements. People see them as homeless. Statistics list them as homeless. The homeless person says they are homeless, which may make them unhappy. What is an ugly woman? Does being obese make a woman ugly? Even if 99% of the world believes a person is unattractive or ugly, there's still 1% who doesn't. I have nothing to earn or lose heavily or moderately for rating any man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:10 AM
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I love seeing anyone succeed, why not a so-called unattractive or obese women with any man that treats them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:01 AM
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What's logical about insulting or chopping down a "so-called" unattractive or obese woman? I have nothing to gain, earn, or lose by insulting her. Really, I feel like this is all to make easier sexual conquest and lazy dating. Because, this means certain people think this is a good thing to date or have easy access to purported inferior women or a match in the looks department. Though, that's not great base for any healthy or thriving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:06 AM
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So, how are most women married, partnered in long term relationships, or dating, if there are only 20% of men being targeted or they want to date. I've been to many cities and places, seen friends, peers, co workers, and casual strangers. I feel like it's pretty big free for all. Many attractive women, I guess one's you may list as upper tier are often just like every other group. Some only date upper-tier men in looks or money. Some date all types of people or men. A lot of them also date down,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:13 AM
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But, what's the point of labeling a random woman or any person an arbitrary number? How does anyone or everyone accurately access value to a person that's agreeable to parties, like yourself. Me, personally, I have nothing gain or lose by rating myself, rating other women, or rating men on looks alone. It's kind of an infantile way to follow life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:57 AM
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I can in no way, shape or form speak for other women or people in this manner, like any other manner. I imagine the reasons are probably numerous, giving the more women who respond. ​ Though, I can speak for myself in this matter. ​ I don't like to tear down other people on looks, alone, especially on the surface. Regardless of their gender, age, race, ethnicity, skin tone, weight, height, body shape, facial structure, disability, and etc. There's absolutely no reason in the universe for me to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:54 PM
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As long as he is happy, besides how do we know that for sure. And, if he isn't, why would that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:48 PM
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Pretty much like any other argument, what does it have to do with you, personally? I honestly don't care about sex work as long as no one is harmed or abused. If men are upset about this, so much why don't they confront other guys about it. Stop them from spending their own money on it. Most men won't do that, because it will be an inevitable confrontation , especially by men who may be much stronger than they are or much more powerful and influential. Just like the women you would be taking awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:07 PM
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Married and not with a man, but whatever physical traits contribute to them being a good person and honorable.🖒
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:05 PM
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Yes, if sex is the #1 priority in relationship and winning some kind of the f#cking contest. But, a relationship. I don't see why it would matter for any particular reason, especially if they aren't actively in a relationship or love that person. How would you even measure something, like that if you have great sex with multiple people. It's silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:05 PM
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