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I’ll tell you what, a short black dude has it worse than a short white dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:13 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:12 PM
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A short dude has it worse than the average woman and black man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:06 PM
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You do you. To expand on the respect bit, https://www.statista.com/statistics/1115255/us-presidents-heights/ , the average height of US presidents is 2 inches above the average height of the average US man. To me, that shows a definite bias that being taller simply gives you more authority because of your stature. But I would say that’s about as common sense as looks matter so I’m not sure why you were so confused? Oh, have you seen the new deadpool movie? A viral joke from it was a 5 foot 3 wol…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:58 PM
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Well I guess i'm a liar then, I guess you do in fact agree height matters significantly. I didn't ask you to post or whatever, I just asked you to check those subreddits out, just to see the difference in vibes if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:45 PM
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Right... now, watch! Does a 5 foot 2 man have even remotely the same dating potential and meritless respect of a 6 foot 4 man? If the answer to that is no, than I guess I am a liar. But I know you will refuse to answer. Just check out r/tall and r/short if you need to get an idea just how much difference height makes. Then, search for "s**cide" in each subreddit and see what you find out. Sure, reddit doesn't paint the whole picture... it's reddit. Yet it's interesting just how different the 2 s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:36 PM
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You imply it, by the way you talk, by the way you side with things. I really would like to see you debate in the looks discussion thread. You seem to be absent from those even tho you seem to have all the time in the world to defend women (from who even?). Again, that alone says a lot. I guess I'm a liar. Sorry, I wont bother to look through your whole post history to get a bunch of evidence, I'm not so obsessed to the lever you are. But keep on white knighting while simultaneously trying to say…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:25 PM
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I'm quite chill, I think you should chill out. Obsessing over imaginary things that you think people have over and over is actually sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:18 PM
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Uh your whole post history. You seem to have switched sides for a bit, just to not look out of place huh? I never see you in the daily and weekly discussions, you seem to like to hide behind the wall of "discussing/debating looks are not allowed" ban that the mods of this subreddit decided to put in place... quite funny. I'm not sure why you seem so obsessed on the tantrums I could throw, it seems like an unnecessary ad hominem at my character, so now I know I got under your skin and you're mad.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:15 PM
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You call that a tantrum? You sound quite triggered. I suppose you got offered, thats cool. Yeah, my point is just that, looks matter, why do you keep repeating what I always say when you've always been denying the importance of looks for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:01 PM
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So why you always denying the importance of looks? Did you have a change of mind? Did you finally learn? Common sense hit ya? Exactly, looks matter and that’s common sense, yet so many blue pillers get a stroke when people say that. I knew looks mattered way before I was 12. Look man, drop the patronising tone, I don’t need a pill to tell me shit. If you haven’t noticed, I don’t side with a pill, I don’t have a pill in my flair. They are all dumb as fuck. Logic prevails. At worst, a mix of all 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:36 PM
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Oh yeah they are, I know I am. It’s only logical. Looks matter. Can you now agree that women are attracted to things such as being tall, great shoulders, a great face? No? Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:25 PM
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I really don’t understand how you can compare an immutable trait to so a mutable trait… it’s… kind of insane. Some of you blue pillers sound more obsessed to white knight than black pillers are to being sad. Give it a rest man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:11 PM
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Height?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:24 PM
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Oh yeah, this wasn’t even me trying to blame women, it’s definitely just an issue with making fun of short guys that a lot of dudes don’t see a problem with which is just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:19 PM
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Sure I did he made all kinds of inappropriate jokes I would like to understand what’s funny about being a 5 foot 3 man?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:51 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:45 PM
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I still don’t understand how you can make a joke out of being a 5 foot 3 man, can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:45 PM
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Lmao it wasn’t even triggered people it was people thinking it was funny and others agreeing with it brining it to the top. You’re so dumb it’s crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:44 PM
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Of course you didn’t hear of the it 😂😂😂😂😂. The topic of my OP on this thread was about how body shaming short men is ok but you’re just going to ignore it and answer only what it’s convenient to you. Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:41 PM
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Ok, will you also address why a 5 foot 3 wolverine was such a funny joke that went viral?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:37 PM
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Ah so a shit joke got it. Still haven’t addressed why making fun of a 5 foot 3 man was the joke that went viral. I guess you can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:36 PM
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Ah yes. Yeah what can you expect im starting to think the average person is borderline retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:32 PM
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Uh because you attempted to make a joke about short people like normies always love to do? It made no sense but it was clearly a dig at short guys which is what I meant to address. Overall it was a shit joke that made no sense so it was difficult to really understand what you were trying to say. Unless I have been mistaken and I’ll retract statement but everything else I have said still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:29 PM
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It was a shit joke, it doesn’t even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:25 PM
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Which question? I’m currently debating some delirious incel tear user so I’m a bit lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:24 PM
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And my point is that you’re brain dead and purposefully ignoring how trendy the joke was as evidence that body shaming short men is ok. It’s actually fucking hilarious how you’re so delusional and you just choose to ignore all the evidence I linked. Shit you just did it! Like clockwork! Also I’m not short so go fuck your self 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:22 PM
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Ok so you’re actually retarded. What’s your point? What are you even talking about? I’ve used the 5 foot 3 wolverine joke as an example of how it’s acceptable to body shame short men and now you’re just brining in stupid hypotheticals. Have you even read the linked post? Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:17 PM
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Are you just stupid? Do you suffer from stupid syndrome? Stupid mentality? My point is that making fun of short men is acceptable body shaming in today’s society and instead you’re not even addressing the argument properly you’re just chatting shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:12 PM
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Yeah too bad that’s just you since the trending joke was wolverine being 5 foot 3z
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:09 PM
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Yeah and the biggest joke in the movie was a 5 foot 3 wolverine. Can you address that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:04 PM
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My guess? Are you just dumb? A 5 foot 3 wolverine is a literal joke in the eyes of not keeping so they had to make him taller for people to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:59 PM
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Are you 18+? I don’t want to be talking to a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:57 PM
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Besides that’s not even the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:57 PM
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No normies aren’t mentally challenged to the degree bluepillers are .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:56 PM
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He was in the comics, not anymore and I wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:55 PM
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B-b-but personality!! Bluepillers seem to love to blame someone’s lack of dating success for being a total shit bag of a human being… https://np.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/s/tfpPRoLDrl Yet even in normie subreddits the most upvoted comments would give bluepillers a stroke. Dam paid actors! If not that then I guess they all have dog shit personalities 😂. They will say “Uh but that’s only one post!”. The funniest joke in the new dead pool movie was that wolverine might have been 5 foot 3. Yep,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:48 PM
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interesting, I would argue that they are quite different. May I suggest giving the black pill science subreddit a look? I'd genuinely like the well formed opinion of a stranger that strongly opposes my own views, for enlightenment sake. for randoms reading this, I would recommend you to not bother looking into the subreddit, or black pill ideology it self, its very fatalistic. That doesent mean I disagree or agree with it, I just think its better avoided altogether for the sake of your mental he…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:23 PM
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Hey man what's your opinion on the black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:46 PM
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He’s a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:48 AM
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It’s funny how you don’t engage in posts like these https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/qtiG3Vibho Such a privileged clown you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:32 AM
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Have you heard of rule 1 and rule 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:59 AM
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I’d much rather be average in height and black than white and short.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:32 AM
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May I ask why you don’t want to share how tall are you? It’s really been bugging me. I don’t want to harass you so I’ll only ask this time at last.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:28 AM
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It’s more like getting upset that the sky is blood red and the air is toxic (even tho that just what it is). Should I just accept that? I can’t. I’m pretty average really. But why does it matter? Why should it matter? Should I break my bones to grow a few inches and become 6 foot? I don’t give a fuck what parents have and don’t have control over. Don’t play at the roulette with my fucking life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:45 AM
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Frankly, yes. If I were told that many immutable characteristics would affect my life and that people are either discriminated or privileged depending on wether they spun the wheel and won or lost I would have asked my parents why they brought me into this world. (The shallowness of people in general is a depressing thought) Being lied to, I could have died lied to and blissfully ignorant. But reality would have given me enough hints and at some point I would have found the truth anyway (as I di…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:05 AM
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I would have rather remained ignorant, the truth made me think about suicide a lot. It’s better now, but I don’t feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:33 AM
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My 5 foot 9 ass reading this: 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:13 AM
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Yeah people basically assume that you already have a half decent job and have some money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:10 AM
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Can you give some reference points? How tall are you, how tall does the general population feel in some mid area, and how tall does the population feel in a wealthy area.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:09 AM
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Im guessing you’re 18+? I remember money being important since I was 6 and I saw my parents cry because bills were difficult to pay. Safe to say I actually was very mature for my age because of those struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:06 AM
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Which country? That’s my worry, get a good job and great money to live in a good area so I’d get to care less about random shit like my height only to start getting mogged. I could move to some southern european country and live in a wealthy area there but I wonder if it’s that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:03 AM
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Well I generally agree. I actually prefer face over body on a woman, and the average woman that works out has a good enough body. Maybe I just spend too much time reading doomer posts about height that I’ve given myself an unnecessary complex… 🤕. I’m not even short, somewhere between 5 foot 8 and 5 foot 10 I have many different measurements so I have no idea. But I suppose even at 5 8 I don’t think it’s short. I know that I’m good looking, I’ve been told so, mostly by guys tho. I actually look l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:42 PM
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Hmm, so you would rather date someone that is 5 foot 8 with a 8/10 face than a 6 foot 5 guy with a 5/10 face?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:47 PM
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How’s a 172-175cm man doing in Romania in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:14 PM
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That sounds more like straight up harassment than some socially awkward guy trying to talk to you while you’re shopping for groceries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:54 PM
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Honest question, how can you spend so much time on this subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:23 PM
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it's actually hilarious how some people are born to basically live in privilege and they decide to just fuck it up by smoking pot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:33 PM
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So you agree that being tall is generally an attractive trait that in general women prefer? Yes or no it ain't difficult. I don't care why and why not is it a yes or is it a no. Enjoy your privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:07 PM
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You seem to want to deny that being taller is in general an attractive trait. I don't really understand why but ok I guess, not like it matters to you when you get the benefits of it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:42 PM
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I take it that you're tall and probably get pretty privilege so I understand .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:36 PM
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You know in what way I asked those details for, it's to decide whether to take you seriously enough but I think I've already got an idea. Can you confirm that you're at least 18+ and not a child? So you believe that the manosphere are using things such as height of men a scapegoat? Do you also believe that the height of a man has no effect on how successful he is in dating, and that a 5 foot 3 man will do just as well as a 6 foot 3 man? (both 6 inches below and above the average of 5 foot 9).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:55 PM
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Uh, people should be attracted to you whether you adhere to a beauty standard or not? Im really confused here. Are you purposefully ignoring the "attraction of the opposite gender" component? You think that traits that cherished and those that people are bullied for have no correlation with traits people find attractive and traits people find unattractive? Who's the manosphere exactly? Also how old and tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:47 PM
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I'm not decrying anything, instead I'm actually high lighting that often beauty standards for women is "just take of yourself and you're good" and that for men it's often stuff out of their control and how men are far worse affected than women from beauty standards. Blaming the manospehre for beauty standards is a bit mad but you are a blue piller. Just check out FDS subreddits. Is the FDS manospheres fault? Why do you think the manosphere tells men under 6 foot that its over (I dont agree to su…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:35 PM
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So how did some trait become a beauty standard if not because theres a widely shared appreciation for that trait? Are you saying most people are not attracted to beautiful people (aka that adhere to certain beauty standards)? I have no real issues with "land whales" comments when they could just lose some weight vs "little man syndrome" and "Napoleon complexes" when they cant just gain height. As a former fat man if someone called me a fat cunt I could literally not care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:18 PM
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"It sounds like you're saying women aren't allowed to be attracted to tall men (for example)" Attracted to. Are you now saying that beauty standards and attraction from the opposite gender don't have overlaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:07 PM
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I haven't said anything so it's interesting how you came to that conclusion. Is height not a beauty standard for men? What's beauty then? If men like non-fat women, then is being not fat (mutable characteristic) a beauty standard for women? If women don't like short men, then is being tall (immutable characteristic) a beauty standard for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:57 PM
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Body image issues cause by beauty standards such as immutable traits yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:49 PM
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What's your opinion on mens beauty standards and how does that affect men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:36 PM
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Are you a man speaking for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:05 PM
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Not what I’m talking about. A lot of people say short guys have all kinds of complexes, why do they have those complexes and why do tall men not have any. Answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:28 AM
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You know what? Tell me why so many short guys seem to develop complexes but tall men don’t (assuming an equal spread of normal and abnormally borned babies). Why do so many short guys end up with complexes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:18 AM
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For anyone that can’t fucking tell I’m being ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:15 AM
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As a former fat man, you comparing being short to a fat woman makes me want to vomit. Because you can actually do something about it. But just keep ignoring the main study I posted and your own data. Just ignore it all. You are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:14 AM
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Bigger or not there’s clearly correlation height and suicide risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:07 AM
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Yes the starving kid in Africa makes me feel great.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:06 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2700457/Boy-13-commits-suicide-bullied-years-small.html If you want to get an idea, look around on the r/short subreddit and then look at the r/tall subreddit. I genuinely don’t know what else to say. I might respond later with more info if you’re inclined to learn. I don’t know what else to tell you. I’m tired. I’ve been arguing on this post for the last how many hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:05 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2700457/Boy-13-commits-suicide-bullied-years-small.html
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:02 AM
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The data doesn’t lie and you’re actively choosing to ignore it. I’m done arguing with you. You just have no idea and will never have an idea. But just for lols, what’s your age, how old are you, and how tall is your boyfriend if you have one?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:01 AM
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Do my research? That was literally the first study I linked, that accounted for many variables. Are you crazy or? Like seriously. I hope you never end up with a short son my heart would break for him. I genuinely can’t believe you unironically think being short has no effect on a man’s self esteem and life experience. Like seriously. I’ve seen enough jokes made by dudes at short dudes that end up with fake smiles because there’s nothing they can do about it or else they will be called napoleons.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:59 AM
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I genuinely don’t care what random Reddit retards have to say. It’s easy to tell someone to grow thick skin. Life as a man is hard, and there’s a reason to why most suicides are committed by men. Telling a man to just laugh it off and grow thick skin is like telling a man to just grow a pair. You are basically saying “nobody gives a shit how you feel”. Just laugh, and be funny. You know what I fall that? A ticking time bomb.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:55 AM
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What the actual fuck are you on about. I’m not talking about abnormally born babies. Im talking about normal babies, that clearly show more suicidal tendencies if they end up short in adulthood than their tall peers. Just look for suicide posts in r/tall and r/short. And as for the abnormal babies, where are the chips on the shoulders of the now tall ones? Like are you just stupid? Are you being purposely malicious? Look up the height of the average CEO and their respective countrymen height. Lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:52 AM
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Are you delulu maybe? Where in my post did I blame women? Both women and men are part of the bullying off short men. I don’t deny it, men do bully shorter men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:46 AM
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In 2022 over 20000 men committed suicide in the US. 56% is only a 2 inch difference, make it 4 and you’re 5 foot 5 man is how much more likely to commit suicide now? Those are not even remotely trivial statistics. But yes ignore it. Short men that were born normal kill them selves more often all for no reason. Just go in r/short and r/tall and search for suicide posts. You won’t be able to count one in r/tall. Honestly I’m just going to go cry this level of cruelty and dismissal is way too painf…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:45 AM
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I’m glad to have been born of average height I could not deal with the cruelty and dismissal the modern world treats short men with today. I could give you countless studies and you would still rather blame short men. Just go on r/short and then go on r/tall and compare how happy men in each sub are with their height. Search for suicide posts in the respective subreddits. It’s not my fucking narrative. You are trying to fit your own narrative and ignore the truth. I’m gonna have to accept that p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:35 AM
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If someone is going to attack my Reddit username to construct their argument they are retarded and I could not care less about what they have to say. Again my point is just that people don’t want to admit that height discrimination exists and that people just don’t seem to care about short guys problems which I find to be incredibly painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:30 AM
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The fact that you unironically believe that there is a genetic link between being born short and having depression and that heightism just like lookism doesent exist makes me want to cry. This is actually so unbearably painful. This level of dismissal is crazy. How can you be so cold and delusional and rather blame someone’s genetics than accept that people will bully and discriminate someone for having undesirable physics traits. How.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:28 AM
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You’re actually heartless. You’re unironically blaming men for being bullied. You’re actually telling me you think those guys are born with chips on their shoulders? If that was the case then there would be tall men with chips in their shoulders too yet you don’t hear about it (because they are privileged and benefit from their height). Actually heartless it’s crazy, I have no words for evil like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:24 AM
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You’re literally ignoring the part where they accounted for the babies being born normal yet height showed to be a huge motivator for suicide. Data doesn’t lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:21 AM
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The fact that you even have to ask that question clearly tells me you don’t give a shit, and you don’t know much about the subject. Data shows clear correlation between height and suicide while accounting for many variables. I gave you my reason for it, what’s yours? No reason? Short guys just kill them selves more for now reason? This is so exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:17 AM
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So they accounted for the variable of being born normal and height turns out to show a massive difference in risk of suicide and you tried to use that as a counter argument? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:15 AM
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Yeah and? You literally did not disprove anything, you actually have extra data points. Shorter men clearly have greater risk of suicide than taller men. What’s there to say that preterm babies don’t get mental disorders that then significantly affect their life? Like what? I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:13 AM
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Why do women on average seem to prefer tall men then. Doesent make sense from a biological perspective if it wasn’t for a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:07 AM
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I’m not saying you did. I’m speculating that being short is not ideal (or atleast how society views it) which probably affects people’s self esteem and how they feel about life in general. You never hear about tall man syndrome but you do about short man syndrome. Why? Why do short men develop complexes but tall men don’t? Again, I’ve also linked many times stats from Bumble, where most women filter men under 6 foot, meaning most women filter most men. I guess most short guys probably don’t feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:06 AM
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Argue that with the guy that wrote that in the article you linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:01 AM
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It must be the napoleon complex they were born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:00 AM
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That also doesent dismiss the study I linked so I’m not sure what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:59 AM
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“The interesting question is whether this is some kind of organic effect or whether this is a cumulative ‘playground effect’,” he says. “Because you never quite catch up if you start small, so all your life you find yourself at the bottom of the social pile. One could imagine that this might give rise to suicidal tendencies eventually.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:59 AM
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Well let’s see does this give us an idea? https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/pdf/10.1176/appi.ajp.162.7.1373#:~:text=The%20height%2Dsuicide%20association%20was%200.94%20(95%25%20CI%3D,ex%2D%20cluded%20for%20this%20reason.&text=We%20found%20a%20twofold%20higher,ences%20on%20growth%20(5). “RESULTS: There were 3,075 suicides over an average follow-up period of 15 years. There was a strong inverse association between height and suicide risk. In fully adjusted models, a 5-cm increase in height was …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:56 AM
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2 inches makes a huge difference I guess, it’s the difference between most women filtering you out or not on dating apps ( 5 10 vs 6 foot)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:54 AM
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No, but I can see that for a 5 foot 6 guy. In fact I think it’s exponential. Besides it doesent matter what I or you think, data is data. Think about it, if 2 inches seem to make that much of a difference, how do you think short guys actually feel? How do you think they are treated that some end up with complexes? Anything else? The stats don’t lie. I guess it’s the 5 foot 8 guys fault who’s now twice as suicidal as the 5 foot 10. Should have been born taller dammit!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:53 AM
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No one cares about the bullying for short men. That’s problem number one. Number 2, I never said anything about bullying being not wanting to date someone. I’m talking about life experiences in general please stop focusing on dating. Women on average prefer tall men and that’s the end of it. It’s clearly a very important feature. As a once fat man of average height the struggles of being fat are incomparable with being short. You can actually do something about being fat. Yes of course you don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:49 AM
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Right my point was that I have no clue because I’m an average height man, how would I know how a tall women feels unless I’ve read countless stories of their lives and/or was a tall woman myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:43 AM
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Yeah you can only see how they act you can’t see how they feel. Some depressed people laugh all the time does it mean they are happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:42 AM
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Correct and?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:41 AM
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You simply don’t understand then. Ginger? I live in England, so I have an idea… that it literally doesn’t matter. I don’t think I’ve actually seen a ginger woman in my life being bullied about it, and as a guy I literally never gave a flying fuck if a girl was ginger or not. Sure there were some stupid af jokes about ginger people but past the age of 15 I don’t think anyone cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:40 AM
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I’m 5 9 and I don’t blame my height but I somehow feel like this was targeted 🤔. But it’s great to hear the opinion of a woman about how most short guys feel! I think I got an opinion about how most tall women feel, I just doubt anyone cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:33 AM
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Good luck man, I wish you the best. It’s sad that I wish for your sons to be tall, it shouldn’t matter, but it does and I hope they get the best shot at life they can. You sound like a good dude. I think you will be a great father. If they end up being short somehow, I think you’ll be able to approach the situation well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:31 AM
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That’s what your husband tells you. Fuck the jokes. All of them. Fuck them all. I’ve seen enough jokes made at the expense of short guys, and they just have to go with it or else they have little land syndrome, but you can literally see the fake smile in their face. Fuck all those shitty jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:27 AM
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Ah yes it’s my complex. It’s always the damn complex. I’m not even short lol. Like I said you ignored my point and continued with yours. I don’t particularly care that you have dated a few short guys and you didn’t like it. It’s not my darn complex. Just check dating app statistics. I’ve linked it many times now, but some Bumble representatives outlined that most women filtered men under 6 foot tall. Meaning most women don’t want most men. Stop trying to victim blame. Stop trying to tell people …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:22 AM
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Dam that’s a lot of weight. I think the one area I got lucky is in strength genetics, I was about 200lbs 5 9 at 17 and benched 240 with a 6 foot 1 or so wingspan and squatted well over 300lbs (I got short legs but they are about as thick as they are long 😭🤣) after 2 months in the gym lmao I wasn’t the biggest guy (there was a huge 6 foot 7 guy) but I was pretty much the strongest. My dad is 6 foot 1 and a good build but definitely not 250lbs. Me and my dad weight more or less the same I just hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:17 AM
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Or unless you’re 6 foot or taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:02 AM
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Yes 85% of men are going to focus on 49% of women I wonder how that will go!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:58 AM
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Hmm 6 foot 3 sounds fun. Really depends on what build I’ll get. I’m 5 9 with a large build, and I wouldn’t trade it for let’s say 6 foot 1 with a small build or even taller. I mean if I had a good build I’ll take 7 foot because… 7 foot. (Or 6 foot 3).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:57 AM
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Ask women not me man. You think I haven’t asked my self that question?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:55 AM
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It’s all relative. We have gotten taller and taller and taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:52 AM
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That’s a hypothetical tho. Most men are at women’s mercy. Most women want tall men on dating apps. Just look at the average pickiness statistics, the difference between men and women is tremendous. I completely disagree that most people admit short men have it harder. Most just blame their personality. Sure a positive attitude will do better than a negative one but that’s not my point. Perhaps we should start doing something about height discrimination instead of telling short guys “Just be posi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:48 AM
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Which makes it even worse actually. My point still stands, being taller is clearly a positive trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:45 AM
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My point is that people don’t want to admit that short guys are discriminated. The fact that people don’t want to then deal with their complexes is what it is. My issue lies in people saying height doesent matter it’s your complex, when in reality height matters to the people around you that bullied you into having a complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:39 AM
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Ok let’s do some maths. According to those statistics most women want 15% of guys. Assuming most means just 51%, it leaves 85% of men with 49% of women. It means that a TON of men will simply have no one to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:38 AM
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I mean the 6 foot 3 guy can actually do something about it. He’s just losing while playing on easy mode. Having game mattes obviously, but it’s better to be 6 foot 3 and handsome without game then 5 foot 2 and ugly with game, + you can actually do something about it if you’re the 6 foot 3 guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:35 AM
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“A former Bumble product manager says that a majority of women on the platform tend to set a floor of 6 feet for men, which would limit their candidate pool to about 15% of the population.” https://www.wsj.com/articles/online-dating-investing-match-tinder-bumble-11657890982?mod=lead_feature_below_a_pos1 I’m not sure how tall you are, but please don’t dismiss the importance of height. Some dudes are tall and can’t get a gf, it doesent mean height doesent matter. Those tall dudes just need to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:34 AM
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So you think that knowing that 85% of women are filtering you out because of your height on a dating app it won’t affect your self esteem? Do you think looks, who care very important for dating, don’t affect someone’s self esteem? You can’t be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:29 AM
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Honestly I’m not familiar.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:20 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:17 AM
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Honestly I’ve seen some dudes pick on shorter guys. It’s a bit of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:16 AM
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Your guess is obtuse. You can deduce from other data that it’s more likely that shorter men simply abuse substances more to relieve the pain. Such as dating preferences clearly being biased favourably for taller guys which would most likely affect the self esteem of shorter guys severely. I gave you data, you gave me speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:15 AM
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Of course they are not. That’s not really my point but thank you for engaging nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:12 AM
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Discussion “We found a twofold higher risk of suicide in short men than tall men. The associations do not appear to be attributable to socioeconomic confounding or prenatal influences on growth (5). Stronger associations were seen with alcohol-related mortality, suggesting that substance misuse may contribute to the observed patterns.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:10 AM
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So you believe that short guys are more likely to simply misjudge how much they can drink all the way to death instead of simply drinking more because they are depressed? Like what the fuck? Have you thought about the fact that some of those death might have actually being from prolonged alcoholism instead of simply drinking too much one day? And if so, why is alcoholism more prevalent? You’re just being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:06 AM
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Most people know yet they don’t talk about it. They would just rather say height doesn’t matter than admit it does. I’m not talking about discrimination simply in dating terms. I’m taking discrimination in all kinds of life situations. I’m sorry, but I am going to use dating app preferences. Why? Because it’s tangible data. I’m tired of being lied to. It’s clear that women prefer taller men. My problem is that people don’t admit all of this. They just say height doesn’t matter. They would just r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:03 AM
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The study talks about alcohol misuse. Why are shorter guys misusing alcohol more then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:59 AM
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There’s is literally nothing in the conclusion that talks about short problems metabolic systems I don’t even know where you pulled that from.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:57 AM
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There’s nothing I need to read. You’re simply trying to say that it’s not because more of them are abusing substances, it’s just that shorter guys are more likely to die from substance abuse because of their metabolic system? Like what the fuck? Back up your speculation then. Read the abstract and conclusion, you’re the confused one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:56 AM
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No need to apologise friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:52 AM
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It’s simple. Women on bumble filtered 85% of the male population by height. Meaning 15% MIGHT not care. Who cares who has to focus on who. Also what are you actually on about with the study? YOU are the one that keeps speculating random shite. The abstract and conclusion are clear as black on white. Are you telling me short people are dying because of substance abuse? My question is why are more short guys abusing substances then ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:50 AM
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I hate how fucking delusional some people are man. I can’t deal with this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:44 AM
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Sometimes I feel bad for making posts like these. Some people are oblivious and it’s probably better that way. Maybe I’m badly influencing a short guys life perspective right now. But if you’re on this subreddit then it’s probably not your average normie anyway. Obviously there are many successful short men out there. Life is worth living. I simply want to stand up for short guys, because I see their frustration and I see how some people treat them, and I see how people dismiss their feelings. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:42 AM
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How am I ignoring everything? I’m literally quoting the abstract AND conclusion, 2 very important pieces.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:39 AM
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Uh what? Why do you think short guys end up abusing substances more? Like cmon. You’re sad because you’re being bullied ——> do drugs to relive the pain. Pain is not relieved… and we know the rest. Sure you look swole. Ok. But I simply cannot argue that being short doesent disadvantage you. “A former Bumble product manager says that a majority of women on the platform tend to set a floor of 6 feet for men, which would limit their candidate pool to about 15% of the population.” https://www.wsj.com…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:38 AM
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I mean it’s not racism because it’s not racism. Racism is discrimination because of race, an immutable characteristic. Heightism is discrimination because of height, an immutable characteristic. They both discriminate based in immutable characteristic, so you see why I compared them? My post was simply meant to be a thought provoking argument. Why do so many short guys have complexes? Because people treated them in certain ways. Bad ways. Bad ways can include being bullied for being smaller, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:35 AM
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Honestly what pisses me off the most is the denial from people. Like there are people, and so many of them, if not the majority of them, that think height doesn’t matter and short guys would struggle because… they have a complex! (Hmm I wonder how they got a complex ). Hurts my brain and soul honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:27 AM
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Yeah I know? That’s my point. Some delulu 5 foot 10 guy is gonna tell me there’s no height discrimination. He’s got no fucking idea because he won’t be discriminated about being 5 foot 10 so what is he gonna develop a complex or victim complex about? I say this as a 5 foot 9 guy, being average is fine. Never being bullied about my height. Im talking about short guys, not average height and tall guys that obviously had no issues with their heights and now think height is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:23 AM
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How are my points mismatched? I’ve literally read women say they won’t date short guys because the few that they did date had a complex. It’s completely fine to not date someone with a complex, it’s not ok to entirely dismiss a whole portion of the population because you had a few bad experiences with problems they developed because society treated them wrong. How far away from racism is that even? Most women don’t have a height preference? “A former Bumble product manager says that a majority o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:21 AM
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Exactly. 5 foot 8 is not even short. Imagine what guys below 5 foot 6 have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:16 AM
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Honesty is what’s appreciated. May I please know how old are you? I’m not going to attack you I’m just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:16 AM
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Have you even read the conclusion? What are you on about? It doesn’t matter what they proposed it in the end their conclusion is “The strong inverse association between height and suicide may signify the importance of childhood exposure in the etiology of adult mental disorder or reflect stigmatization or discrimination encountered by short men in their adult lives.” “OR REFLECT STIGMATIZATION OR DISCRIMINATION ENCOUNTERED BY SHORT MEN IN THEIR ADULT LIVES”. If you wanna debate points in the pap…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:14 AM
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As a 5 foot 9 guys shut the fuck up, sincerely. Me and you both have never experienced discrimination because of our heights. You have no fucking idea. If you weren’t so heartless and actually short you could actually gather a bit of empathy, but I guess you have nothing to say about the cold hard statistics that short men are indeed at a higher risk of suicide. I guess it’s all that victim complex and napoleon complex and short man syndrome and angry midget syndrome and over compensating right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:10 AM
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Thank you! At last someone said it. They are less desirable sexually and often discriminated at the job place (and that’s only part of it).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:07 AM
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Yet it never shames the ones who gave them the complexes. It’s funny right? One develops a complex from trauma as a response to said trauma and then they are shamed instead of being helped by understanding people. Oh and the ones that bullied them? Who cares. Nice one just be Tom cruise. I genuinely cannot fathom such flawed thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:02 AM
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Oh I know exactly why short men are discriminated against. I’m simply trying to make people think a little. Why do short guys tend to develop complexes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:59 AM
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You’re deducing that out of thin air. Think about why short men often develop complexes about their height. Think about it before responding to me again. There can only be one reason: they have been discriminated and or bullied for it. It’s not hard ffs. What do you have to say about this? https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/pdf/10.1176/appi.ajp.162.7.1373#:~:text=The%20height%2Dsuicide%20association%20was%200.94%20(95%25%20CI%3D,ex%2D%20cluded%20for%20this%20reason.&text=We%20found%20a%20twofo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:55 AM
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Correct. Your point? My point is that I’ve often read things like: “I don’t date short guys because the last few short guys I dated had a complex and I hated it!” “Their problem isn’t their height, but their complex!”. So we are basically victim blaming and dismissing their emotions. They developed complexes because they were bullied, and now it’s their fault they have complexes and they should be ashamed. Because that makes more sense than think as to why someone developed a complex in the firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:52 AM
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So what do you have to say to my short friends that get border line bullied by my taller friends? What do you have to say about this? https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/pdf/10.1176/appi.ajp.162.7.1373#:~:text=The%20height%2Dsuicide%20association%20was%200.94%20(95%25%20CI%3D,ex%2D%20cluded%20for%20this%20reason.&text=We%20found%20a%20twofold%20higher,ences%20on%20growth%20(5). “RESULTS: There were 3,075 suicides over an average follow-up period of 15 years. There was a strong inverse associati…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:50 AM
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I mean I’m ok to debate whatever I don’t mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:45 AM
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You got it twisted. You’re literally doing it again. The reason to why they are being discriminated is not because of their shitty personality, but because they are discriminated based in their height THAT THEN CREATED THE COMPLEX. Literally victim blaming. You bullied someone into a complex and then are mad them for having a complex as if it’s their fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:44 AM
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What some 6 foot 6 is gonna come in and cry about how their height did nothing for them (essentially proving that people genuinely think height doesn’t matter)?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:39 AM
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Or basically all the normie subreddits, where apparently it’s all about confidence. You are really trying to argue nobody says that? I should have included it into the post this is a classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:31 AM
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I’m guessing you’re not familiar with r/tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:30 AM
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But yes sure let’s debate I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:28 AM
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In my opinion experience guys that love their beards just have no chin. You can call me a woman I’ll just call you Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:21 AM
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I don’t think you read my question properly. You stated that “woe is me” and black pill fatalism are negatives of such discussions. You did not explain why. What’s wrong with the ranting of an involuntary celibate person? Did we lose the meaning of the word incel? Does it just mean misogynist now? Because I know plenty of misogynists getting laid, so they can’t be Incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:55 PM
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What’s wrong with “woe is me” and black pill fatalism? Should be very easy to debate against them if they are so wrong right? Just a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:59 PM
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