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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
98	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same	CMV	MilkyWayDot	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 04:49 PM

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1	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can That's reasonable, the problem is most women use their physical attraction for initial assessments, so, I don't see lower physical standards will ever happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 07:03 PM
1	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can So, if women won't lower their standards, and men cannot meet these standards, what do you suggest?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 06:41 PM
2	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can This is one of those cases where guys just have to grow up and accept the way the world really works. Becoming bitter about it won’t actually change the reality of things. And remain single, you mean? Or change to meet women standards?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 05:58 PM
5	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can But even on Okcupid where you can write intros, you don't get matches. Dating apps have definitely played a role in raising standards. When you have many options, you become picky	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 05:55 PM
4	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can Good valid point	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 05:53 PM
2	Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they can In my personal opinion, it's not women standards and their refusal to lower them per se. Most frustrated men start with expressing frustration, but when their frustration is met with vicious attacks and bans, these people go to extremes as a reaction. I think it's better to discuss these things instead of closing any outlet for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 05:35 PM
–	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I think I already have a full life. Going to work, excercising, reading, participating in meetup groups, watching soccer games with colleagues، taking care of shoppin, cleaning the house, laundry, .. etc. I also have time to relax and think of my life and of life in general, and to watch Netflix. I think if your life is so full that you don't have time, it means you're escaping from something like being alone, and from your own thoughts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 04:06 PM
–	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same That would be reasonable	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 03:53 PM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same English is not my first language, so I agree with you on that	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 11:17 PM
2	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same English is not my first language, so I agree with you on that	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 11:17 PM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Top 50% of men settle for bottom 30% of women all the time And I'm the one who needs to study statistics. I doubt you have good understanding of statistics or math from your argument. But this isn't the point of my post. If you think women are having what they want, good. All my post was based on women's expectations for men, which I still think they are unrealistically high to be met.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 11:07 PM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Actually, I agree on much of what you said, but still there's a caveat. Let's go back to my math 🤣 We need to start with the fact that, statistically speaking, there are as many men as there are women. Let's simplify it by saying we have 100 men and 100 women in the dating pool. Theoretically there's enough mates to either gender, but in reality most women select the same small percentage of men. If we say 80% of women selects the same 20% of men, which is supported by data from dating apps, in …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 09:00 PM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Women have more options how? It's impossible. It's a simple mathematics: if 80% of men are not being selected, this leaves 20% of men to be competed for. It may seem there are plenty of men for women, but these are the same men who cheat on all of them	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 08:01 PM
-1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Excellent comment	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 07:56 PM
-1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I think the family intervention in daughters and sons marriages played an important role in keeping their selection better and reasonable for the long-term, because sometimes individual selections are blinded by impluses than by rationality. But for some reason arranged marriages understood as coerced, which might have been the case sometimes, but it's not generally true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 07:53 PM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I've never associated with the red pill, and I don't know what these terms mean. I'm talking from personal experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 07:11 PM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Good for you. I'm good being alone than being someone's last choice. Thanks	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 06:09 PM
0	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I prefer to be single over taking care of someone's else's kid. I'm ok with not having children, although it was my desire, but if I want to take someone older, I don't want children to come with her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 05:56 PM
0	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Keeping social connections and taking care of themselves and taking care of children are all natural to women. But yes I agree, women are capable of managing many things. Men are, too. However, my point is on mate selection in specific. Doing and managing many things don't mean you will be selected. Mate selection depends on other traits, and mostly doesn't depend on your efforts	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 05:53 PM
0	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Of course they're not unreasonable, for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 05:46 PM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same By logic, if women have always selected attractive men, all men and women shouybe attractive. Isn't this how passing genes work?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 05:44 PM
0	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Well, most psychologists are women, this doesn't mean anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 05:42 PM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I'm not upset, I'm ok with being single. A good relationship would be great but without it I'm fine. I think I've made a huge effort from where I was to where I become to be a decent guy, and that's what women keep saying, men need to put effort, until you realize it's not true, at all. I'm trying to shed light on a problem that no one wants to admit it exists. I'm all for women independence. My sisters all are independent, and we supported them to finish their education and get good jobs, and e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 03:02 PM
0	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same And if you think these requirements are not crazy, then I'd say you don't know men. Men haven't evolved to be funny and play music. We evolved to protect our group and provide to our children when life was dangerous and tough, which was the majority of homo sapiens existence over 10 of 1000s of years. If it wasn't for men, women and children wouldn't have survived, and now women say we don't need men when life got easy. Women selected men to survive and to provide for their children, because wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 12:44 PM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Good news is at least at 30+ they starts to be real a little I'm 39 and my age range goes up to 39 and sometimes 42 on dating apps, and still not getting matches. 39 years women are as selective as 29, and they prefer to be single the rest of their lives over giving average looking guys a chance to know them	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 12:35 PM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I put the effort to take care of myself. I shower everyday. I put clean clothes ever day. I have a hair cut every week. I shave my beard every other day ... etc. But what I don't have control over is my facial features. I'm 5"9 do height is mot a problem. I'm also lean, which isn't a problem. I'm also a little introvert and shy and socially awkward. But you see, just one or two flaws can ruin your whole dating, even if you are good in many other aspects. You must be many things at once. All of t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 10:21 AM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I wouldn't have mentioned this if I wasn't in shape.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 10:05 AM
2	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I was very good looking in my youth There. This is my point. Good looking now is the most important thing. Before it was being responsible and being able to provide and protect. Now all of this is 0 if you're not good looking	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 10:01 AM
2	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same This is nowadays. This wasn't the case before	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 11:41 PM
1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Can you elaborate more? I didn't get your point	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 11:26 PM
0	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I don't like to hike, it's not impossible to me 🙂 I meant playing music as a talent not hiking	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 10:27 PM
0	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same So how do you explain that most men aren't attractive if women selected only the attractive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 09:55 PM
-1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same They're unrealistic. Women have unrealistic views of what men should be, because they're not that. Men are humans, with simple and realistic skills. They're not super humans. Preferences are: being confident (even slightly shy is not good), being attractive in facial features not just body fitness, being funny, being sociable, having many interests and talens that conform to what's considered good, like hiking playing music, .. etc. All of this after you are financially independent and have high…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 09:40 PM
0	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Being taller is a sign of power and strength. Homo sapiens males weren't selected for being attractive per se, I think.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 09:22 PM
2	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same The complaints on dating subreddits say the opposite. Women are frustrated, too. But yes, hot men circulate, and thus it seems there isn't a problem for women because they get them at some point while circulating, until they discover no one of them wants to commit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 09:18 PM
2	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I don't thing hypergamy is the problem these days. Yes women still seek men of higher (economic) status, but it's no longer enough. Status now is being measured on different scales at ones. Beauty scale. Funny scale, talent scale, social scale, fitness scale... Etc, in addition to the economic scale	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 09:09 PM
0	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I think this is what women try to depict as the problem. Most men are good mates, I'd argue, but women go after the same hot men, and then they think men quality has declined, while quality men are being ignored, because they're not hot enough to be given a chance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 09:02 PM
5	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I don't think this is entirely true. Women enjoyed different degrees of freedom and power at different times. This arranged marriage I think wasn't common in prehistoric times, for example. Women became less free when humans settled down in cities, which is relatively new. Even where there was/is arranged marriages, it's not like what you think. In some countries arranged marriages are still a practice, but it's not a coercion as far as I can tell. Anyway, going back is not a solution, and now w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 08:54 PM
5	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same I disagree. Women's preferences are too difficult for men, and I think trying to change men to conform to women's preferences, is like asking women to lower their standards. Both are impossible. That's why we are in the current situation. It's not lack of effort for men. I have a phd, physically fit excercising 3 times a week, healthy, well read, not extrovert but like to talk with people and have a meaningful connection with them, have a good paying job ... etc, still not being desirable. I thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 07:19 PM
6	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same It's based on experience. I've been on dating apps, with new photos, bio, prompts, interests, but with no matches. On the other hand, I saw someone on YouTube who only had pictures in his profile, but he was good looking, and he had 1000s of matches to the point he didn't respond to many of them, because obviously he cannot. How he got 1000s of matches without a single word in his profile? The pictures, the look	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 07:14 PM
3	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Exactly my point, but what's needed now is new to men. We aren't adapted to this new reality, and that's why men struggle to meet women's preferences. In the animal kingdom, males evolve gradually to be selected by females. In humans, the shift happened in one night, while biologically and psychologically we remained the same. It's not about men refuse to work on themselves, it's about things men don't have control over for the most part	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 06:59 PM
5	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Most men are good people, I'd argue, but women go for the good looking, even if they're bad, and say they are the ones who put the effort, while most men don't even get a chance to show their personality or what they have to offer	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 06:50 PM
-1	Women's selection criterion have changed, but men have remained largely the same Liberating women was the best thing ever happened, but there has been some unforeseen consequences. This is what I'm talking about, not about returning to the past	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 06:47 PM