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Often it’s wanting to be judged as a group for good deeds and judged as an individual when bad deeds are discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:41 AM
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Have you built a bridge??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:23 AM
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I’m sure you’d know better than his children
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:08 AM
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Those are some good examples. I would say they are uncommon relative to the reverse. Women in media never get to reach the level of ugly that men do. There’s no Quasimoda. Some of those women are just fat. Ugly Betty just has braces and bad fashion. That meme is about an unattractive man and an attractive man wanting an attractive woman. It’s always an attractive woman. But men never see the irony of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:07 PM
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And unattractive men pursue attractive women out of the goodness of their hearts and not because looks matter a great deal to them? Esmeralda was a drive men crazy level hottie but Quasimodo deserved her because he was a good person. This narrative exists everywhere in media. But where are the Quasimodas? They don’t exist. If Quasimoda had wanted to date male equivalent hottie Esmeralda would you think that he was a bad person for not wanting to date her?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:20 PM
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You’re not talking about mandatory paternity tests you’re talking about mandatory paternity tests or you can’t legally be added to the birth certificate which I maintain is something that nobody else is talking about. I have put forward my reasons why this is a terrible idea. I’ve spent most of the time defending men’s bodily autonomy and parental rights which is ironic don’t ya think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:49 PM
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You changed your argument at the very end and now you’re claiming your initial argument shows this. Will you admit that your position was extreme?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:14 PM
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“The government can without any legal issues acquire you to show a positive paternity test for you to put your name as the legal father. If a person want to be a legal guardian, you prove your biological ties to the child.” if someone wants to be a legal guardian they must prove their biological ties to the child. - and if they have no biological ties I’m supposed to assume you think that’s all good. From what you said? And you must show the positive paternity test to put your name as the legal …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:13 PM
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“If a person wants to be a legal guardian, you prove your biological ties to the child.” - this is pretty clear anti adoption rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:05 PM
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It doesn’t explain your position it complete negates your initial argument. Maybe next time you have this discussion clarify your point. You went straight to the most extreme position and then claimed every pro mandatory paternity test person agrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:31 AM
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“The government can without any legal issues acquire you to show a positive paternity test for you to put your name as the legal father. If a person want to be a legal guardian, you prove your biological ties to the child.” - this is what you said
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:17 AM
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But your new laws would also strip the husband of any paternity claim. Current laws allow him to be added to the birth certificate without needing to prove he is related to the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:09 AM
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Because he can’t go on the birth certificate unless he proves paternity. Your words
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:59 AM
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Identify the sperm donor who by current laws has no paternity claim. He has to consent to the father being able to adopt his son? So it’s going from legally recognised on the birth certificate as the father to an unrelated adoption. Huh What about egg donation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:41 AM
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Actually exploring your idea. Married couples that use sperm donation for various reasons. Currently the father can be put on the birth certificate even if he didn’t provide the sperm. That illegal too?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:00 AM
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Mandatory doesn’t automatically mean that men aren’t legally related to their children if they don’t get one. Most people were talking about it being automatically done at the hospital as part of testing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:34 AM
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I’ve never come across it it’s quite extreme. Why not do a thread and see if others think that fathers shouldn’t legally be put on the birth certificate unless they prove paternity?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:46 AM
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Making it so fathers can’t be legally recognised on the birth certificate unless they do a paternity test isn’t usually what’s proposed even in the most extreme examples. I’m pro have a conversation with your partner about wanting a paternity test ideally not springing it on them at the moment they give birth. Why does it need to be a government run mandate?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:11 AM
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Your circle is strange and you likely surround yourself with people like you. Genuinely do you think that the majority of relationships involve choking?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 09:08 PM
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Where are mandatory paternity tests being brought in? I don’t know of any country that’s using them in the way you describe?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 09:02 PM
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DNA and medical rights probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:23 AM
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And you think that would be a popular policy for a party to run on? Again mandatory paternity testing supporters assume that all men will also support mandatory testing. Would the fathers be able to legally adopt their children if they object to mandatory genetic testing?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:06 PM
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Not for me there’s so many untested rape kits. But you were the one who suggested mandated paternity testing. Which again is not possible. There is no standardised test that is done at a hospital on a person who is not a patient at the hospital so yes it will always require the conversation and consent to do the test on the man. The main argument for making it mandated is due to conflict avoidance as it removes the need to ever have an awkward conversation. But sorry you’d still have to explain …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:02 PM
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Wow so as the head comes out you’re going to yell give me a paternity test you sloot. That’s cold blooded dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:53 PM
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Your argument does not apply to you. You’ve clearly thought about paternity testing future children. You’re not the only man here who has. So you can’t claim to be suddenly wanting to get a paternity test because trust was broken in a future relationship. You already want the paternity test. Unless you are planning to get amnesia. So when would you tell her?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:16 PM
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This argument first assumes that all men will agree to provide dna for a government mandated test. There will be men that will refuse. They have a right to refuse. We can’t mandate vitamin K injections or vaccines either even though they save babies. Hospitals also can’t mandate tests on people who are not patients at the hospital. It is always medically and logistically necessary for a pregnant woman to be present at the birth of her child. That is not true of the father. At best it would be an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:05 PM
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I don’t think you can claim plausible deniability when you’re on this forum arguing with everyone about how important paternity tests are to you. Clearly you want a paternity test in either scenario 1 or 2. You’ve already planned to get one. So in scenario 2 would you ever talk to her about it? In the planning our lives together stage? Waiting until the positive pregnancy test? Or are you waiting until her water breaks?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 07:58 AM
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A bias I have is that any time men tell a story about a woman rejecting him in a rude over the top way my immediate assumption is that he kept asking after she said no. Can’t fault her for it he was never going to listen unless she was rude. Men so often interpret a polite no as keep going. Doesn’t matter how many times you say it. But if you call security, call him a creep, yell for help. Suddenly he backs off. He asked her for sex nine times but on the tenth what happens? She says no again. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:08 PM
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They work in the sewers for financial compensation would they do it for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:51 AM
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And I can’t tell you how many times we’ve been out to dinner as a group of friends and a man keeps trying to sit down with us and won’t take no for an answer. I can promise you that we’re not trying to have sex with him he’s being a weirdo. I work in a customer facing role and I’m supposed to smile and be friendly but it is still a no if I say no. It’s crazy that the men here think that woman are apparently only interested in what the top 10% of men but also any time a woman says no she actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:58 PM
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A bias I have is that any time men tell a story about a woman rejecting him in an over the top way my immediate assumption is that he kept asking after she said no. Can’t fault her for it he was never going to listen unless she was rude. Men so often interpret a polite no as keep going. Doesn’t matter how many times you say it. But if you call security, call him a creep, yell for help. Suddenly he backs off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:49 AM
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Do you enjoy living in a stinky house full of trash and vermin?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:09 AM
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I think you’re not the only man who does this version of oh a group of woman has expressed a preference for a trait that I have. But an individual woman from this group whom I don’t know the preferences of doesn’t want to date me. Hypocrites all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:51 PM
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Dating advice for men doesn’t work because you are asking out an individual with their own lives, existing relationships, wants and dreams. They aren’t living their lives for you stranger. You didn’t ask that person for dating advice. You asked random people on the internet for advice. The women you ask out aren’t ethically obligated to conform to the opinions of randoms on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:30 PM
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Any time I see a profile on a dating app with no identifying pictures I assume they’re trying to anonymously cheat on their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:49 PM
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It is at no point a consensual relationship. And if the wish person had said yes you can amend it however you want? He would have kept her trapped in that relationship with no free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:13 AM
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He asks to amend the wish, you keep defending that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:23 AM
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What does the love being real even mean? Love without consent isn’t love. He makes the choice to try and keep her in the wish. It is a selfish choice based on what he wants not because he thinks that she wants the wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:00 PM
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Walk me through what he says because I don’t see it being she is in love with you and consents to everything that you do to her and wants you to keep the wish. Also does this happen before or after the phone call because again in the phone call his first question is amending the wish not is it real which shows his priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:49 PM
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He says it might be real. Bear wants to amend the wish because he wants to be with Nikki and the idea that Nikki wanted the wish just doesn’t make any sense and is not justifiable. It’s a film about Obsession and how Bears obsessive love hurts the people around him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:29 PM
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So your interpretation of the film is bear wishes: I wish Nikki loved me more than anyone else in the world. He believes his wish is real but he doesn’t believe that Nikki’s love was caused by the wish. Does he believe that Nikki coming onto him was a weird coincidence that had nothing to do with the wish? Does he believe that Nikki was in love with him before the wish? He believes that the relationship is 100% consensual even after learning the wish worked? The wish has no effect on her apart f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:47 PM
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Why didn’t he ask to cancel the wish immediately if he thinks that Nikki is legitimately in love with him? Why ask to amend it if they’d be together regardless of the wish? He knows it’s because of the wish by this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:47 PM
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Sorry that makes no sense. How can he believe her love is real but also caused by the wish? He asks to alter the wish as this will allow him to keep her as his girlfriend but get rid of the psycho behaviour. If he believed as you claim that Nikki’s love for him is real why would he call at all? Why would he ask to alter the wish? He thinks his wish worked - Nikki to love me more than anyone else in the world. You can’t claim that he believes his wish worked but that he also thinks the love is re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:40 AM
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No he wanted to alter the wish so that she was still in “love” with him but less freaky about it. He only wanted to end the curse once she started killing people. His response to finding out she is trapped by the wish and wants to die is to ask “what’s so bad about being with me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:57 AM
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What? Like if the hospital contacted them to say there’d been a mistake? Or seemingly impossible babies based on their parents genetics?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:43 AM
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What is the relevance? I’m not denying that paternity fraud exists. I think it is not as common as the men here seem to think it is. I’m suggesting that government mandated testing would not be as popular as men believe and is also unlikely to be possible. We can’t mandate MMR vaccines or vitamin K injections even though they literally save babies lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:39 AM
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I think that’s the issue. The men here want government mandated testing because it removes the awkwardness of an accusation - it’s out of their hands. And they think anyone who objects to it is a woman who has cheated and committed paternity fraud. But what they’re not thinking about is the people who will object to it because of these government mandated and DNA security concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:16 AM
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But nobody’s asking for the government to mandate following around your spouse if you suspect them of cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:02 AM
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Questions of DNA privacy, storage and use. We’d have a database of the genetic information for every father and child born. Are we going to use this to solve crimes? Prescreening for medical conditions? Should we be suspicious of any man who refuses to provide dna?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:51 AM
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So women should force themselves to have sex with men now or otherwise you pinky promise that government mandated girlfriends is just around the corner. It’s such a massive cop out to say it’s just my opinion, I’m not actually saying anything. You are dude. I’m replying to what you are saying. Besides isn’t the birth rate heavily linked to movement from rural areas into cities? Children have gone from a source of income to a massive cost. It’s so reductive to say taking away wamens rights is goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:51 AM
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And you lot are criticising women for not sleeping with incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:06 AM
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Have ya read the thread? Incels being unrepresentative in intimate partner violence is meaningless because they haven’t had intimate partners
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:45 PM
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Say I dated an incel who had talked about the reckoning coming for woman if they don’t start having sex with lonely men. Then he hurt me. Would you advise me that statistically incels are non violent (he is no longer an incel so that statistic is irrelevant) or would you suggest I should choose better next time and that dating men who advocate for violence against woman is a bad idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:24 PM
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But once someone starts dating a lonely man they are no longer included in the incel statistics are they? They are now in the violent man statistic. Better for women to stay single
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:01 PM
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You’re posting on a ppd male radicalisation discussion amongst all the men arguing why women should be compelled to have sex with them and all the things that are going to happen if they don’t. But you’ve touched on an excellent point. Women choosing to remain single is their lifestyle choice based on their circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:59 PM
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You also can’t compel women to have sex with you by threatening to lead an incel revolution on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:23 PM
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Ban video games and force boys to go outside and socialise
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:14 PM
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Lonely men aren’t just threatening not to care they’re threatening to hurt women. And if you find a partner who wants to have kids with you she’d have done it because she wants to have kids with you not because you threatened to retire early and chill if she didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:06 PM
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Men shriek endlessly about how much they require sex to live then shame any woman who has sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:53 PM
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And those men that commit crimes should go to jail. I’m not interested in forcing myself to have sex with a lonely man because he might otherwise become radicalised and hurt a woman one day. I’d rather stay far away from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:49 PM
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I’d rather they were arrested for the harm they cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:38 PM
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You must live a sheltered life if this is what you consider harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:43 PM
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You said it was unfortunate that the man can’t decide to have the baby. How is it unfortunate if it is the only outcome that is possible? Surely it is very fortunate that he can’t decide for her
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:23 AM
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But what’s stopping us from harassing and denigrating men online in response? Think you can handle it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:52 AM
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Ooo I’m so scared
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:38 AM
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How ya gonna do that keyboard warrior?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:09 AM
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And equality looks like what? Woman does not want baby but Man wants baby. What happens in your Egalitarian world? There is no compromise. There is no half baby. What should happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:04 AM
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Why should a man be able to decide to have a baby against the mothers will? Explain your position
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:44 PM
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If nobody wants you what do you suggest instead? You can’t force someone to be in a relationship with you. There is no advice or action that guarantees romantic success as a whole other person has to want to date you. Learn to be happy single is advice that influences the only thing that you have real control over: yourself, your decisions and your actions. Just be in a relationship doesn’t make sense as you can’t control other people’s actions and decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:41 PM
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Unfortunately a man can’t decide to have a baby if the mother chooses against it? Are you anti abortion but pro paper abortion? Reproductive equality is not the woman has zero input and control over her body while the man and her master can make all decisions for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:29 PM
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Go on what’s the return on investment if not sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:41 PM
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By return on investment do you mean sex? You bought what a $20 meal and you think that entitles you to full penetration? What’s the going rate for prostitutes in your country? Maybe visit one of them and actually buck up and pay for what it costs instead of tricking someone who agreed to a date to agree to be your prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:33 PM
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Wow such a weird coincidence the answer is only ugly men are good and all attractive men are evil. Well ladies time to find the ugliest man you can and make him your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:20 PM
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Right right men need to have casual sex but women who have casual sex are low value and for the streets. Wait who are men supposed to be having casual sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:38 PM
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Why would women be required to quit dating if they don’t want to date you? Men often claim it’s shallow to have preferences about looks but reveal themselves in one conversation. Go on do you preferentially try to date the ugliest women you can find?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:25 AM
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So what every single woman is required to go on a date with every man in the area? How many dates is she required to go on? When is she allowed to say no? Like enforced speed dating or is she required to spend an evening with every man. Is she allowed to have age preferences? Can an 18 year old say no to a 70 year old man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:11 AM
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So you are entitled to chances with unwilling women? And you’re so convinced that if you just managed to force a woman to date you that she’d fall in love with you. The idea of legitimate rejection doesn’t exist? Still not getting into those pesky details. How are you going to get more chances?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:00 AM
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Your whole point was something about we’ll stop giving women jobs if they don’t force themselves to date us. You never said anything about women going on dates they want to go on. Guess what they already do that. You’re talking about it being the norm for women to date men they don’t want to date? You think men will be happy with this? This subreddit is filled with I don’t want to be used as an atm beta cuck soy boy hysteria. I only want to be treated like chad I deserve it women should have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:12 PM
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A few dates to prove what? That they go on dates? And you think they’re going to fall in love with you after these court mandated man experience sessions? Promise you’re not going to go nuclear when they still don’t want to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:20 PM
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In your awesome new initiative does every lonely boy get to rape a woman or is it only the super special ones that get to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:08 PM
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Do you want us to tie them to chairs so they can’t run away when you try to kiss them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:56 PM
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Deserve more opportunities in dating with unwilling participants? How and why would this be provided for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:12 PM
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Your initial question was: I don’t see how it would automatically lead to higher n counts? Do you see now? I’m honestly baffled by the idea that automatically requiring women to have sex on the first date to make men feel special vs allowing women to wait three dates to get to know a person would have no impact on n counts. Can you explain why you think it would have no increase??? Again most people don’t marry the first person they date so if they have to go on a few first dates there is a diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:53 AM
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They assume that every woman has and act accordingly. That doesn’t make it true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:24 AM
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You can presuppose that every woman has had sex with Chad within seconds of meeting him but in dating you are dealing with individuals. It’s simply not true for every woman. Men here make this assumption and claim it is something they intuitively know as fact based off vibes and men’s intuition. But has sex quickly and higher n count are statistically more likely to go together. While has sex more slowly and lower n count are statistically more likely to go together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:41 PM
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So most people go on a date with one person, have sex with them, it’s their soulmate, they get married so no n count? Or does it take more than one date and one person? I’m not talking about your ideal world where woman have sex on the first date as a rule but have no n counts, I’m talking about reality. If someone has sex on the first date as a rule according to math and probability they will have a higher n count. I’m not sure why you think that’s not true. Do you think they will have a lower …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:35 PM
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Yes and you can totally use your men’s intuition to intuit exactly how long a woman has waited to have sex with someone in the past. But does your men’s intuition tell you that every woman has had sex with Chad the very first time she meets him? Is it not just insecurity and assumption? Does your men’s intuition perhaps need to be recalibrated?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:15 PM
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Have you considered that there are men in this very conversation making this argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:10 PM
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Six hours is not enough time. People take more than one date to figure out they want to date somebody long term. Most people don’t marry the firstish person they date. Requiring sex on the first date but demanding low n counts is bad math.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:49 PM
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Requiring women to have sex with you within six hours to prove they are interested is requiring women to have higher n counts. You can’t demand behaviours that increase sex while having tantrums about women having sex. If you’re a prude be a prude. Makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:00 AM
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all you’re doing is justifying demanding a paternity test to yourself. While still insisting that paternity tests are not an accusation of cheating and in fact have nothing to do with cheating even though you admit that cheating is the reason men want paternity tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:54 AM
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Why won’t you admit that men ask for a paternity test because they’re worried that their baby mommas cheated on them? Like it’s about cheating why are you lying? Do you think it’ll fool anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:27 AM
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So the main concern and reason for asking is worrying about cheating but also asking for a paternity test has nothing to do with cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:03 AM
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Sorry I don’t believe that paternity fraud as a hot topic red pilled debating point is caused by men’s paranoia around hospital admin errors and ivf mixups. It’s cheating. Thats what they’re worried about. It’s weird to pretend it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:50 AM
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Realistically we know that government mandated paternity testing isn’t going to happen. Arguing on reddit isn’t going to convince the future mother of your children not to be offended when you ask for a paternity test unless you are having these arguments with her. It is an accusation of cheating. How else would the dna not be a match? It’s not because you think the baby was swapped otherwise why not test her dna instead? We’re not the thought police you can’t mandate that she won’t be offended …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:37 PM
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We’re doing the mandatory dna test then using the results to solve all unsolved crimes. What’s the matter with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:13 PM
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And opposing paternity testing as a woman doesn’t automatically make you a cheater. That is ops argument: if she hesitates then she cheated. The whole red pilled argument is making dna testing mandatory at birth removes stigma and consequences of the mistrust. But mandatory dna testing is something that a lot of people oppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:10 PM
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Let’s use the dna database to solve crimes. Those ancestry dna kits caught the golden state killer. Any man who tries to opt out of mandatory dna testing is probably a criminal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:44 PM
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Let’s use the dna database to solve crimes, every father and child born after the policy is instituted will be added to the database. If a man refuses to provide dna he’s probably a criminal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:35 PM
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Well then they can test the mum if that’s the only reason they want the test. Accomplishes the same thing and is not a cheating accusation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:59 PM
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Think of all the crimes we could solve with a dna database of every father and child born accessible to government institutions. There are so many rape tests with no match. If a man refuses to offer dna we should assume he has committed a crime. We could use the hereditary disease info to add preconditions to people’s insurance and adjust their preminums. What a utopia
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:40 PM
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You going to feel all good if a woman did this to you? Finger up your ass no discussion or warning? Would you prefer to be asked first?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:58 PM
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On this subreddit there’s a fair amount of any woman will do mindset for desperate men. But if he’s only with you because you said yes and you are interchangeable with any other woman, that is not a stable foundation for a relationship. He’s going to stay loyal your whole life through the good and the bad? Obsessively competing with your peers to elevate yourself is more of a male trait no? The people who assume they are immune to relationship struggles may not even believe it themselves: trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:48 PM
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This new ppd obsession is nothing more than a conspiracy to increase the pressure for women to perform uncomfortable unprepped anal they never wanted for their insecure partners to prove that they loooove them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:12 AM
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I reject the role and therefore don’t have to fulfil it. What are you going to do about it? Force me through your computer?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:32 AM
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Not if it comes at the cost of their freedom and happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:32 AM
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Their happiness demands somebody else spend their life with them and have sex with them frequently. That’s great if the other person wants this. If nobody does then what should happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:24 AM
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Should women as a collective instead advocate that undesirable men must have access to sex and companionship? What should happen if no one wants to have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:20 AM
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Sex and body contact with another human are not the same thing. Don’t compare babies dying from lack of body contact to men not having sex. You’re not going to die and nobody will be charged with neglect for not having sex with you. Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:51 PM
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My TikTok is mostly animals, funny videos and things I’m interested in. If you consistently click not interested on types of videos you don’t want to see, you won’t be shown them anymore. If you watch and engage with gender war slop then you’ll be shown more of it and it’ll take over your feed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:10 PM
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Any type of video is avoidable. You can curate your algorithm by clicking not interested on videos that you are not interested in. Videos that you spend a lot of time watching and engaging with will be shown to you more so it feels like that’s all the content there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:52 PM
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There’s a lot of claims on here that women in the west have absolute unchecked privileges with men as second class citizens. They’re not just talking about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:06 PM
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Just think of all the crimes that could be solved once the police have access to the dna of every father and child once the policy is implemented.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:11 AM
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Are men going to stop judging women based on n count?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:37 PM
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Men use celebrities like George Clooney as an example of this phenomenon failing to recognise the money, nutrition, training and enhancements that go into aging like that. These celebrities are the exception not the rule and were genetically blessed when they were young.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:11 AM
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Therefore sex with men is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:12 AM
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Yes they use men’s intuition to assume that every woman has had sex with Chad within seconds of meeting him and demand the same treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:55 AM
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I don’t think men understand it. They’re constantly demanding sex from women. If she was interested she’d have sex on the first date etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:02 AM
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Lesbians are pedestalized compared to gay men who are negatively affected by the strong sex with men aversion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:24 PM
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But for every other man sex with you is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:23 PM
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The natural lesson from the n count discussions: sex with woman is always positive. Women are purifying and good. Sex with men is overwhelmingly negative. Men are disgusting and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:18 PM
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What % of women are attractive? What % of men are unattractive? If all unattractive men can only date attractive women who are attractive men supposed to date? Unattractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:27 AM
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Sex with unattractive women won’t fix it but most of these men will be unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:55 AM
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I don’t think there’s a good consensus on what hypergamy actually means. There’s men on here that say if a man is taller than the women he’s dating than she’s hypergamous but men are taller than woman on average so it’s basically meaningless. Also if man better = woman is hypergamous and bad. If woman better = man is beta cuck and woman is settling and therefore bad. I haven’t seen evidence that the men here can imagine an equal relationship even within hypotheticals so there isn’t anything woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:38 AM
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“Nobody is saying women shouldn’t date who they want” - read the subreddit you’re posting on yes they are. It’s not just a couple of fringe weirdos with the majority adhering to your idealised view of what the redpill was supposed to be. You’re in the minority now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 09:42 PM
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Well what would happen if she disappeared for a week? Would you step up and take care of 100% of house duties and raising of children with 0 notice? If it were me I’d dump you because you are a liability and someone who can’t be depended on. How does that make you the best boyfriend/husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:14 PM
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Do they tend to listen to your no? If they kept asking or tried to touch you would you remain polite?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:19 AM
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This is a nice change from the every woman is in a harem with Chad conspiracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:55 AM
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Men often enjoy brutal honesty, emphasis on brutal. They don’t worry about offending people because they enjoy offending people. Cruelty is cathartic to them and they use honesty as a guise. They’re usually lashing out to make themselves feel better because of insecurities or because they believe life has been unfair to them. Also men are always lying on dating apps. If your dating preferences are set to women how would you know what men are doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:51 AM
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The “don’t put all your eggs in one basket theory” having offspring with more genetic diversity - multiple baby daddies, leads to more resilient offspring and greater success
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:16 AM
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Am I supposed to believe that the men of ppd are drowning in so much pussy that they can easily reject any woman who doesn’t have sex with them on the first day or meeting them. Do you guys have heaps of first dates lined up? I mean have whatever standards you want but don’t expect me to cry for your male loneliness if this is why you don’t have a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:21 PM
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Did you not read the OP? It’s about the contradiction on PPD of don’t make men wait for sex but you can’t have a high n count. You have to vet properly but you have to immediately have sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:57 AM
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Advice that will make you attractive to a single person while making you repulsive to every other person in the group is not good advice. So it may fill men with rage but longer term vetting and waiting for sex is a better idea
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:53 AM
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Looks like she’s at an award ceremony of some kind. It’s a lil bit different than your average day. I think even male celebrities understand that. Most of them will be wearing makeup too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:41 AM
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Do you also expect women to have low n counts?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:22 AM
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None of these represent a permanent devaluing in the same way that having sex with men permanently affects how men see women. And no I don’t think women demand these behaviours to close to the same level as men demand sex but think women who have sex are disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:50 AM
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The consequences of sex are higher for women with pregnancy and childbirth. A man wanting sex doesn’t mean he loves you or even likes you. He could literally hate you and still want sex. I know the n count discussion is taboo but it’s fascinating that men want women to have sex with them as early and easily as possible while believing that women who have had sex are somehow ruined. Active sabotage clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:00 PM
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One party, one time, in one country? At least you’ve said the anglosphere but do you genuinely not know that there have been other instances or are you arguing in bad faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:52 PM
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Why restricting higher education?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:07 AM
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Do you have proof that is beyond anecdotal that this is more prevalent among women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:30 PM
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Does your wife get to cheat too? She’s in a marriage with a husband that broke his vows that should entitle her to breaking hers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:31 PM
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Are you a virgin by choice? Do you feel resentment towards women because you are a 30 year old virgin? This would count as baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:17 PM
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They’re not equivalent. Books are entirely fictional, while porn has real actors. There’s no sex trafficking, rape or exploitation in books but there is in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:38 AM
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I mean the men here act like if a woman has an n count above 0 she’s murdered someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:37 AM
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It’s extremely surprising that someone can have experiences that are different than yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:27 AM
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Do you consider yourself a traditional provider man? You don’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:28 AM
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At least you didn’t say we farmers this time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:23 AM
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Great. Maybe you can use this as your achievement instead of demanding respect and gratitude for things you’ve never done
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:53 AM
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I genuinely don’t understand what you were trying to say. And I quote: I didn’t say you had to be grateful to me but not allowing me to use my kinds, achievement is meh You’ve got to rephrase this it doesn’t make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:52 AM
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I thought it was hilarious. Did you get the reaction you wanted from posting our convo in the daily thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:48 AM
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Reddit moment where you’re replying to someone specific but instead of adding to the chain it’s posted as a new comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:37 AM
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But not allowing me to use my kinds, achievement is men? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:34 AM
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But not allowing me to use my kinds, achievement is men? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:32 AM
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Not allowing me to use my kinds? What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:16 AM
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Do you enjoy duty sex? Knowing the other person doesn’t want to have it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:21 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/esemxktjxsfg1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10882d50f037f4684a78ad478f47c8b57dfacbd7 You forgot the first half of the conversation. Here ya go.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:19 AM
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I’m not going to be grateful to you because of other men’s achievements. Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:28 PM
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Hey dude you used the emoji first 🤷‍♀️ loving the shout out you are so obsessed with me 😚
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:24 PM
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Don’t phrase it as we men 🤷‍♀️ it’s specific men. Lots of them. But not you. Their accomplishments aren’t yours just because you also have a penis. Do you think they would want you to speak for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:36 PM
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You said “we men” have to take up risky jobs and build society. Sounds like you’re trying to take credit for something you have nothing to do with. You should be grateful to them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:18 PM
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What do you do for work?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:08 PM
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Are you currently in a relationship? Have you already got your side piece lined up? How much time is she allowed to be sick for before you start cheating? A week?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:05 AM
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How many relationships have you cheated in? Do you really think it says nothing about your character?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:00 AM
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Men always want some strange nothing to do with his partner. The only thing affecting his cheating is his capacity for loyalty and whether he is a good person. Break up with her nobody made you cheat. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:54 AM
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Have sex with me or I’ll cheat on you? Have you ever had non coercive sex? PSA post pregnancy there at least six weeks of no sex doctors orders. Unless you want your partner to get septic and die.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:47 AM
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But they are unlikely to have a low n count which is the contradiction. I want a woman who has sex with me instantly but has little to no sexual experience? Makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:02 PM
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I mean statistically there aren’t enough 6-7 women for most men to be happy. Also most men aren’t 6-7 or above so do you think it’s a realistic thing to want?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:02 AM
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What rating would you give yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:41 AM
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I’m not the one claiming that attraction can be manufactured
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:56 PM
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What do you do with that hatred? Does it affect the way you interact with and treat people? If we tell you that it’s ok to hate people in this context it doesn’t protect you from the consequences of that hatred, including judgement and criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:03 PM
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Someone moved the sauce so men can no longer use their eyes or hands to find it? It’s in the fridge not on the moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:33 PM
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Shouldn’t be allowed? What do you suggest be done to stop them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:16 AM
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And yet you choose only to focus only on single mother’s influence on crime statistics? Yes or no there is more going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:44 AM
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Did you know that 47% of single mothers in America are black? Are black people proportionally over represented in crime statistics? Is that because of all the single mothers or is there something else going on?? Parroting incarceration statistics with no nuance or thought towards the social trends and dynamics that influence the statistics is useless. It’s easy to hyper focus on one trend and ignore everything else. Stop pretending that single mother = child will be career criminal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:39 AM
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How would you enforce a male only hobby? Should I need to show ID to buy a video game? Automatic rejection of sale if woman? You can try gatekeeping but I’m not changing my habits because men are whinging about it on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:56 PM
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They watch anal in porn but don’t learn anything about preparation and safety or how to make sure it doesn’t hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:00 PM
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Go fall in love with a “landwhale” then
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:07 AM
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No you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:59 PM
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Nah worried about sex trafficking and abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:22 PM
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It’s a common sentiment here that an n count over 0 makes a woman undateable. While also believing that if a woman doesn’t immediately have sex she’s not interested and also undateable. Clearly sex with a man is a much more degrading and devaluing experience than sex with a woman. A woman who risked having sex thinking she was in a relationship will feel betrayed at being tricked. Because having sex with men makes men view you as disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:54 PM
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Do cheaters practice safe sex generally? If he doesn’t want exclusivity he can use his words and communicate instead of lying. She doesn’t have to agree to be in an open relationship. Cheating has repercussions for the betrayed party especially when people find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:38 AM
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Preventing STDs is a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:11 AM
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Shamed for being frigid and not putting out on command
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:09 AM
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The claim I refuted was that no women are shamed nowadays. Easy to prove wrong which I have done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:40 PM
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Mr Handcoversbruises claimed that woman are not shamed nowadays. I refuted that claim with excellent examples. Go tell him he’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:35 PM
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They are still shamed. To win this argument I just need to prove a woman has been shamed what within the last year? Month? This proves your claim is false. For you to win you need to prove that no woman has been shamed within the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:24 PM
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Your claim was: “there is no shame against women nowadays”. Clearly you know there is shame against women nowadays. Just “not enough” maybe next time write what you actually mean
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:16 PM
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And do you think that single mothers are shamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:45 PM
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Single mothers, crazy cat ladies, sluts and land whales would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:36 PM
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For some red pillers sure it’s about love but for lots of others it’s about spinning plates and having as much sex as possible. You’re misrepresenting the red pill message by saying it’s only about love and desire and not about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 11:17 PM
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Would men collectively decide to remove women’s rights and turn them into objects and breeding cattle? Most men aren’t redpilled and most men know women that they love and care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:08 AM
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How many dates are you willing to go on in two weeks?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:13 PM
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Attractive men are the most successful at dating
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:33 PM
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And lots of women mean what they say when they reject men. I’d be inclined to say this is more likely. Maybe you’re happy to take your chances with getting pushy and insistent. If she reacts badly and you get in trouble for it I’m not interested in blaming her
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:00 PM
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Men that struggle with social cues should not assume that woman want to have sex with them when they reject them. The message has been keep pushing you’ll get confident and laid. I’ve seen no nuance in your discussion. Your whole point has been well I’ve seen women who said no and didn’t mean it if you wanted men to listen to no women (the hive mind) should stop doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:32 AM
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So the message assume that no never means no and keep pushing does what? Get these men laid or arrested?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:20 AM
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How common is this vs legitimate rejections? Because from how much you’re going on about it we’ll have to assume that no woman has ever said no and meant it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:16 AM
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How common is this vs legitimate rejections. Telling the autistics of purple pill debate that no means yes is a bad idea
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:08 AM
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The advice seems to be keep pushing and making women uncomfortable after they’ve said no because they’re playing games and actually want to have sex with you. Of course the extremely likely alternative is that they are rejecting you. Therefore the woman has no choice but to start being mean and drawing attention to the creep to get him to leave. Your massage therapist example does not mean that you should assume every massage therapist wants to have sex with you and start inappropriately touchin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 10:59 AM
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K so what does she have to do to get you to leave her alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 10:44 AM
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Do you genuinely think that a woman who says she has a boyfriend never has a boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 10:40 AM
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The assumption that women don’t mean no when they say no is why over the top and mean rejections are often necessary to get men to leave women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 10:25 AM
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Men having short term partners and casual relationships does not prevent them from dishing out heartbreak. Elsewhere in this thread rejecting a stranger is used as evidence that women create heartbreak
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 10:46 PM
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The amount of heartbreak hot women will be dishing out would be equal to the men they are dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 10:27 PM
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The hot woman will be pairing up with other hotties who are dating around then. Do you think she’s dating ugly men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:46 PM
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Based on what gut feelings and anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:21 PM
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They have to say no as I said. There is no way they can say yes to everyone without hurting men. So they reject. Yes rejecting someone sucks and so does being rejected. Getting asked out all the time also is probably annoying and disruptive. You genuinely can’t care deeply about every man who tries to fling himself at you. You’d also see the worst of how men handle rejection. You’d have to worry about them getting pushy and aggressive and going full psycho and following you home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 11:46 AM
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There’s zero info in the prompt. The assumption that hot woman break up with men more than average is strange. I assumed rejection as the logic that hot women are asked out more does make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:31 AM
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Would you prefer they said yes to every single man who propositioned them? Then they would be a slut and worthless to men no? Also if they are in a relationship that would be cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:56 AM
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Does assuming that make you resentful or jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 11:13 AM
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Well that’s rare on here. But you assume every woman has slept with Chad within minutes of meeting him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:43 AM
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I think you know that it’s not true for every woman but the point is the whole “I wouldn’t require her to sleep with me on the first night if she hadn’t done it for other guys” is meaningless if you assume every woman has even if she hasn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:33 AM
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Online dating is a massive sausage fest. The gender ratio is 3:1/4:1 and how many of those are female bots?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:27 PM
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The men here assume every woman has slept with Chad within minutes of meeting him
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:06 PM
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I’ve always thought the aversion to hunting and fishing photos was more of a posing with a dead animal makes people uncomfortable situation. Rock climbing is cliche but it’s not a dead animal. Gun pictures feel threatening because people interpret it with a “I could shoot you” slant. Again if it helps you weed out people that share your interests or have conflicting values it can be a good thing but you might reduce your pool if you are an automatic no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:10 AM
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If they are single, attracted to you, wants to go on a date with you and not busy they’d probably like a slower get to know you conversation. This version is a lot less likely to happen statistically so maybe get to the point. If they are dating/married, not attracted to you, don’t want to date you, and busy they’d rather the interaction never happened and that you’d go away as quickly as possible. You can try body language and social cues. Short annoyed answers. Closed off. Don’t bother people …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:24 PM
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I’m not following your question. Trad wives of now vs the wives of yester year who stayed home to take care of the children/were excluded from the workforce. The argument that women used to be happier is from studies like this: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00148-024-00981-5 This has been used to justify the idea that the reason women used to be happier is because they stayed home and had less choices and rights. Therefore women should do that now and become tradwives. There are iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:00 PM
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It’s an argument I’ve seen on here for why women today aren’t actually happy and should quit their jobs and become tradwives. Because women today use lots of antidepressants and the women of yesterday had better happiness scores. I don’t agree with it it’s a stupid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:43 PM
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Yes that too lol ludes and wine. They were putting eggs and shrimp in jello
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:48 AM
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My grandma had electroshock therapy. Today is better
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:17 AM
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It’s more that people use today’s antidepressant use vs the “idyllic” 50s happiness rates as evidence that women were happier when they stayed home to take care of children and had less rights
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:58 AM
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Your only requirements for a man being an asshole archetype were men doing behaviours that women say they don’t like. Not approaching is one. Maybe be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:17 AM
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Varying degrees is the key here. How mildly do successful men have these traits? At a certain level it’s just confidence, ambition, cheekiness and a lack of preoccupation for what others think. I would say a sprinkle of these traits can be positive and calling them assholes is an overreaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:54 AM
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Lots of women claim that it is bad to approach women for dates that you don’t know. If a man asks out a stranger that he approached at a bar after striking up a conversation and she says yes. Is he an asshole? I don’t think so
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:49 AM
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Can you not be more specific than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:42 AM
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Sorry who dis?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:27 AM
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Sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:27 AM
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Why would she have to choose? The choice to remain single is always an option. Also please define what bold and aggressive behaviour he engages in? Is it confidence? Is he punching old ladies and bullying nerds? All asshole behaviour is not the same as
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:50 PM
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Have you tried being an asshole? Did it bring you success? What asshole traits did you emulate? Because often it seems to be confidence and not simping which yes while attractive is not asshole behaviour? Or are ya engaging in criminality, bullying and abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:21 PM
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Are attractive good men not attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:33 PM
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If men choose to interpret it that way I can’t stop them. If they try to emulate it and find out that the bad behaviour wasn’t what made those men attractive I won’t be sympathetic to their anger
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:20 PM
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Or she’ll ignore both uggos and be single/wait for someone attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:18 PM
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So becoming more attractive makes you more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:17 PM
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Off you go then. How do you intend to act like an asshole? Report back your massive success
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:11 PM
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How are they levelling up? If it’s pua techniques the success is massively overstated
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:55 AM
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But are you only trying to date 2s?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:03 AM
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Are you looking for attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:50 AM
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Money? Also not American
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:49 AM
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This is fun. Debating is great
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:28 AM
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Where do average guys have women chasing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:26 AM
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Where am I scared to say that attraction is important? That’s all I’ve said. Do I think that a man needs to be a Chad to be in a relationship? No. Do I disagree with these women? Yes. Do I think average men are doomed? No. Less women will be automatically attracted to them whether they are assholes or kind. People find attractive people most attractive. If you are below average less people will find you attractive. Do I believe in the 80/20 90/10 whatever rule. No it’s a flawed study and people …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:24 AM
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I agree with this there’s such a lack of consistency with what constitutes bad behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:55 AM
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Are nice attractive men aiming to have a series of short term relationships? If they get into a long term relationship does that mean they failed and are less attractive? This is a weird measure of success that is biased towards men who date with short term aims
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:19 AM
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How about no? Women are having sex with men because they are attracted to them and want to have sex with them not as a reward for good or bad behaviour. Nobody is making personal relationship decisions based on the good of society according to what redpill says. Would you marry the ugliest kindest woman you can find to make the world a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:16 AM
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If you are choosing not to be virtuous because you believe you will have greater sexual success with women and you are not a Chad then you are have nobody to blame but yourself when that strategy doesn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:56 AM
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Will unattractive men get the ladies if they start acting like assholes? No because being attractive is the most important factor for being attractive. Are attractive good men unsuccessful? No they are in long term relationships with attractive women however the men here view success as spinning plates and hooking up as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:40 AM
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But he wants women to start incentivising virtue but not to settle?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:26 AM
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You guys need to stop making absolute claims about how women always do something if you only mean sometimes. How often does it backfire badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:18 AM
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They are attracted to the hotness yes women are incentivising being hot. Men focus only on the bad behaviour and ignore the primary reason for the attraction: hotness
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:12 AM
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A compelling sample size of 1? So scientific
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:11 AM
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According to what? Red pill stereotypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:00 AM
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Attractive good men do very well but are likely to be in a couple and not engage in bad behaviour- cheating, maximising hookups, pumping and dumping, being pushy or targeting women for abuse etc. in what way are attractive good men less successful? Does success mean as many hookups as possible? How do you define good? the women who are attracted to bad boys often have other stuff going on - drug users will often get with drug users.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:49 AM
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Then why did you say “this is not true” as I said the bad behaviour is not what is attractive being attractive is attractive. But men pretend the bad behaviour is attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:34 AM
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If you are unattractive does a backhanded compliment lead to success? How often?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:28 AM
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If you are unattractive then it will be harder to find people who are attracted to you. Women aren’t going to start having sex with men they aren’t attracted to just because you think it will make men more virtuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:21 AM
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They are attracted to the hotness not the bad behaviour though. But the men here present it as the bad behaviour being attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:59 AM
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My original comment was about the ugly man supermodel wife tv trope. All the comments are saying that it’s necessary gaslighting of men. So yeah do you think that this is what you were promised? Ugliness attracts supermodels?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 09:58 PM
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Did they say that ugliness is the most attractive quality a man can have and that all ugly men will have hot wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:53 PM
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Do you think that you would have more success with women if you started kicking old ladies, bullying nerds and robbing banks?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:55 PM
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When I met my boyfriend was i already a famous actress and had I appeared nude in films and had done sex scenes before? Either way he shouldn’t date famous actresses or he can set the expectation from the beginning that he can’t date somebody who does nude scenes so that I can dump him before wasting my time. Why do men actively seek out women to date that do things they hate and then get angry about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:24 AM
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Are the men on these tv shows exceptionally good therefore deserving of these exceptionally beautiful women? Most beyond providing some money do as little parenting as possible and seem to hate their wives and constantly complain about them. They were unpleasant men who weren’t kind or generous. Is this what you grew up thinking you deserved?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 08:21 PM
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Does ugly men expecting supermodels because the tv told them they deserve it suggest a lack of superficiality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:51 AM
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True he tended to keep the nitpicking in the group. With him I suppose the joke was also that he was pulling all those woman and was never happy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:11 AM
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I would think that people would be reasonably looks matched overall. Would ugly men have cucked attractive men that consistently unless they had a lot of power? Why would ugly men have automatic pick of all the babes. Did uglyness used to make you more socially powerful, stronger and richer?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:08 AM
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George Constanza was a fairly whiny unpleasant man. All the Seinfeld characters are to be fair. But he doesn’t fit the nice guy trope because he sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:04 AM
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All unattractive men married attractive woman in ye old times? Who did attractive men marry? Or do you believe that all woman are more attractive on average than men? I lean that way a tad
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:36 AM
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As in its give up worthy? Unattractive men will probably end up dating unattractive women why should they expect any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:25 AM
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Why is the suggestion that an attractive woman would want to date an attractive man instead of an unattractive man so hard to accept? Is that not just how life works?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:23 AM
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I sincerely believe that the ugly husband/boyfriend paired with the hot wife/girlfriend tv trope is largely responsible for men’s belief that that being nice was all they needed to attract an attractive women as an ugly man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:37 PM
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In what situation would shirt on nipples covered be more revealing than shirt off nipples in the breeze?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:10 PM
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Do you believe that a woman wearing clothes is more revealing than a half naked man? Double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:34 PM
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I’ve had to ask lots of men multiple times at the location I work at (don’t want to be specific but it’s inside in a place where getting your tits out is inappropriate and there are children around) to please put their shirts back on. I don’t want to see your man titties. So no in my experience men tend to be more revealing with their clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:27 AM
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Supply vs demand sure there’d be more men lining up for 20 bucks full service but the supply of women willing to do that for only 20 bucks would not meet the demand without loooots of sex trafficking. In general I don’t see any benefits of increasing the use of prostitution beyond that 3% sure legal is better but increased demand leads to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 09:07 PM
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Indeed so what happens when men start voting against women’s interests. Why the lack of elaboration? It’s a debate subreddit so debate. I’m also skeptical of the assumption that some men not getting access to the sex they think they deserve means that enough men as a voting block would be able to vote for something heinous. Red pilled thinking is not the majority. Young people have never been well represented in voting. Women can vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:38 PM
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It’s always brought up in these discussions as a start having sex with undesirable men or else… threat. It’s pretty annoying that no one wants to even speculate on where it’ll go. It’s clearly revenge fantasy for lonely men so they’ve thought of specifics. This is a debate subreddit why bring it up if you don’t want to discuss it. Are you leaving it open ended so we’ll assume the worst possible eventuality? Full handmaids tale? Do you want to lower the age of consent or make child marriages lega…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:45 PM
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Not being coerced, manipulated or forced into having sex you don’t want is a more important need.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:21 AM
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Vote against women’s interest as in? Be specific
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:41 AM
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If men stay in relationships while feeling contempt and resentment towards their partner. Using them as a placeholder for sex while they hope someone better comes along. Why would we view woman breaking up with men as a negative thing? Breaking up is the honourable non-cowardly thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:36 AM
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You will never be guaranteed a date from somebody. If they are not attracted to you, aren’t available for dating, and aren’t interested it doesn’t matter how you approached because the answer is no. Why would there be a magic approaching method that changes a no into a yes. Approach if you want to, demanding guaranteed success is unreasonable. Men don’t listen to polite nos and will keep pestering, begging and arguing to attempt to change the no into a yes. It is often necessary to give rude and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:54 PM
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I read them I’m just not required to believe that being attracted to a 14 year old is natural instinct and therefore beyond reproach. Even if you don’t act on your attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:39 PM
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Being attracted to kids isn’t natural. Definitely keep that to yourself. People are going to be wary of your opinions not just because they “operate primarily on emotion and instinct” but because if somebody is advocating for being attracted to children I’m assuming they’re a pedo and shouldn’t be around kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:17 PM
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Your only requirement for attraction was post puberty. You should have more requirements around aging and fully developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:53 PM
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It can often finish at 14-15 and is trending earlier generally. Yes I consider 14 children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:49 PM
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I was specifically talking about the post puberty minors that you have claimed all men are attracted to. That’s why I talked about leering at children. You don’t try and hide it when you look at them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:42 PM
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I don’t obviously. I know that a lot of men leer so obviously we’re catching quite a few. How do you know that nobody has caught you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:34 PM
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Perhaps more than you’d think and less than I’d hope
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 07:58 PM
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Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 07:49 PM
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Men also overestimate their ability to leer subtly. The children you’ve been “admiring” they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 07:45 PM
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I’m hoping it just means 18 but from conversations on here it’s younger than that. Gross honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:36 AM
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20 was just the youngest option on the survey. They would’ve gone younger
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:38 AM
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Exactly so as I was saying being irate to men you want to reject is good and necessary. Men should stop complaining when women reject them with cruelty. Wow dozens of articles? Do you believe everything you’ve read about men too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:13 AM
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The number of woman saying no to “test you” is minuscule any you know it. But here’s the thing do you back off when she starts yelling, screaming and swearing? Great guess she never wanted you! Will you leave her alone now? As I said men don’t listen to no and polite. While we’re having team meetings with our gender can you sort that one out with the lads?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:53 AM
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If men accepted the first no and left without complaining, begging or pestering there wouldn’t be a need for over the top rejections. Men don’t listen to no and they don’t listen to polite rejections. Also a lot of people here view a civil rejection as hostile.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:16 AM
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The attractive woman is not obligated to make herself available to your advances. She is there to workout while listening to music. There is nothing hostile about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:18 AM
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How young?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:26 AM
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For future reference when you are talking about pedophiles and children people are not going to assume you are talking about 14-16 year old victims. They are going to assume you are talking about much younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 01:45 AM
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So if a pedophile is not convicted it means that the child must have pursued them? Can you please specify an age for this situation because yes under a certain age extremely sexual behaviour is a sign of abuse. Also what does extremely sexual mean
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 01:22 AM
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What do you mean by only convicted pedophiles? A child who does extremely sexual things in the presence of an adult or to an adult has likely been sexually abused. You should call the police or social services. To clarify what age are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 01:08 AM
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The average age difference between couples is 2-4 years no? Personally if this is as widespread as you claim I don’t credit old men with enough self control for the average to make sense. Pedophiles often pursue victims using sexual coercion, grooming and rape. This is without the victims ever pursuing them sexually. Do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:31 AM
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The average age difference between couples is 2-4 years no? Personally if this is as widespread as you claim I don’t credit old men with enough self control for the average to make sense. Pedophiles often pursue victims using sexual coercion, grooming and rape. This is without the victims ever pursuing them sexually. Do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:10 AM
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From the opposite side older men also flirt more aggressively with younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 11:26 PM
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Obviously legality is a major factor but my question is 18 is legal but does desire actually skew younger and if so by how much
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:56 PM
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How about both for comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:55 PM
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If the most attractive qualities a woman can have are youth and beauty. How young do men actually find attractive? I experienced most creep catcalling younger than 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:10 PM
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Yeah the men here complain about being a beta bucks so clearly being selected as a safe and stable choice is not what they want. They want to be chosen for their looks but they don’t have the looks to back it up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:51 PM
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Neither of them would pick any of the men on this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:48 PM
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I hate it when people use acronyms expecting everyone to know what they are talking about. Just write it once you have time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:55 PM
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Well you’ve done that. The advice pops up over and over again and this is the place to argue against it. If I’m interpreting you correctly you agree the advice is bad but you don’t like that I’m discussing it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:57 PM
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Well you’ve done that. The advice pops up over and over again and this is the place to argue against it. If I’m interpreting you correctly you agree the advice is bad but you don’t like that I’m discussing it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:56 PM
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This is purple pill debate where we debate pill ideas? Or am I in the wrong place?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:51 PM
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I wouldn’t tell you not to complain about bad and contradictory advice if a women gave it. Are we not allowed to debate bad advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:48 PM
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If you were to take men’s advice and have sex with every man on the first date you’d rack up an n count pretty quickly therefore making yourself undateable apparently. So bad advice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:48 PM
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I’m on ppd to debate ppd weirdos. The real world is a very different place
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 09:48 PM
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Yes letting people vet and wait to get to know someone without screeching about how they let Chad tap that immediately and how it means you’re not attracted to me rah rah rah
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:24 PM
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He’s deleted his nastier comments but I’ll add them here for posterity. It was threats of singleness, cats and depression. A common ppd projection. So basically have sex with any man you date immediately or you’ll end up alone forever but also having an n count makes you unworthy. As I said ignore men’s advice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:17 PM
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Mr have sex with me right now or I’ll leave you is not the catch you think he is. As I said it’s a great vetting method. And the idea that the only men that exist are mr have sex with me right now or I’ll leave you says more about your outlook on the world than it does mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:18 AM
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So the trash takes itself out? Great
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:12 AM
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Mens intuition right? They think they’re psychic but they suck at it. But genuinely what would be the downside for the woman of waiting? Gives you time to vet and get to know somebody. You’ve not increased your n count if he’s a dud.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:06 AM
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And you would know how? You assume every woman has screwed multiple chads within seconds of meeting them and have a sulk about unfair treatment. Your consistency is in your preconceived assumptions. You would never be happy to wait
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:56 AM
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And you would know how? You assume every woman has screwed multiple chads within seconds of meeting them and have a sulk about unfair treatment. Your consistency is in your preconceived assumptions. You would never be happy to wait
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:55 AM
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And they would have done the same thing for the first date? Waiting gives you time to vet and get to know somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:40 AM
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Nah we’ll just wait for longer than the first date because the good ones won’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:28 AM
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Men’s advice for women is a double edged sword and should be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:20 AM
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You have to have sex on the first date or you’re not interested and not worth dating. But also having an n count means you’re incapable of forming attachments and nobody will want to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 01:22 AM
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The often shared advice for women on this subreddit is choose less attractive men. The belief is that attractive men have the most options and are therefore more likely to cheat or treat you badly while unattractive men will have no options and will be unable to cheat and treat you kindly. There are all sorts of negative stereotypes about women. That they are hypergamous and will monkey branch to higher value partners. However I have not seen the same cautionary advice about women directed at me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:50 AM
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I agree. There have been a large number of tvshows with unattractive male characters married/dating supermodels. These tv shows have existed for a long time and most people know they’re delusional wish fulfilment for the male creators of these shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:14 AM
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There are a lot of threats on here about the awful things that will happen if women don’t start having sex with men they’re not attracted to. Most don’t leave it at just men checking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:10 AM
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My father went to an all boys boarding school. The bullying was deeply psychological not just physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:53 PM
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“Women can withhold sex but not forever” - so men are going to take it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:47 PM
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Is the answer mass rape? What do you think will happen if you men don’t get to have families? Be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:12 AM
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Makes sense. Where’d it come from it’s very specific and widespread on here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:00 PM
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They’re pretty intense about the range if it’s not actually what they’re looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:59 AM
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Have you calibrated your accuracy? Like checked if your guesses at bmi are accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:57 AM
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But how accurately can they judge it? Or are they asking prospective dates for measurements
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:55 AM
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The men here want a 19-21 bmi range. That’s not just judging over or underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:53 AM
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Do you guys think you can accurately tell a persons bmi just by looking at them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:48 AM
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People who claim to value bluntness and honesty overwhelmingly use this bluntness as an excuse to be insulting and cruel without consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:37 PM
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Yup and unfortunately playing mean is often the only thing they will pay attention to. They’ll conveniently leave out how pushy they were being and it becomes a women mean narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:53 PM
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Had she already said no once? Or had you asked any follow up questions/lingered in the conversation after clear signs she wasn’t interested? I’m aware it’s a not all men kind of thing but curious about how often it’s 0-100 without anything else going on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:50 PM
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You’re right. There is a trend of people commenting on things they have zero experience in. Definitely skews everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:44 PM
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Lots of men complain about the intensity of the rejections that woman give. But in my experience men don’t listen to a polite or even a firm no. They will keep asking/arguing with her. You have to go crazy/draw attention to what he is doing utilising public shaming. When I hear any “the worst she can say is no” story my immediate assumption is he would not leave her alone. Call it bias but look at what men do not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:39 PM
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If she is in a situation where she can’t walk away. Like working at her job, sitting eating a meal on public transport. Do you listen to her no or do you keep badgering her? This is why I advise women to give these big over the top rejections after they’ve ignored your no. It’s not worth it to be kind. Men don’t listen to no
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:54 PM
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If you ask somebody out and they say no and you repeatedly ask them. What is the purpose? Do you think they didn’t hear you or misunderstood. Do you think if you ask them enough times they’ll give up and change their mind? You’re right it isn’t a crime unless your behaviour escalates. But a better question is what is the point of trying to convince somebody who doesn’t want to date you to date you. As I said take the rejection and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:33 AM
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This is true. Hopefully there will be social consequences at least. They’ll earn a reputation as a creep who can’t take no for an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:09 PM
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It’s fine to ask but you have to take the rejection. Which means no asking repeatedly or becoming aggressive or argumentative. You should care about making people uncomfortable in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:57 PM
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Are Galadriel, Eowyn or Arwen?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:47 PM
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And the female characters in lord of the rings are actively participating in the story are they not? They fight and lead instead of waiting around to get saved. You’re using a weird example for your argument. Do Galadriel, Eowyn or Arwen behave like Daisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:38 PM
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Saving the damsel in distress is the male fantasy. They require an object of their desire as a prize for beating the monster. We don’t want to be the damsel in distress who wants to get kidnapped by a monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:31 PM
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Can’t drink can’t vote can’t have sex with a 50 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:33 AM
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Yes please I think it should be illegal even with parental permission gross
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:57 AM
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All countries should raise the age of consent to 18. America is right 16 is creepy. You can add Romeo and Juliet laws for a 2 year wiggle room in established relationships if you must.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:42 AM
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What about all the male fatties 🤮 they have tits
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:38 AM
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Female infanticide is actually widespread across many countries throughout history it is not just in china and India
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:58 PM
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Disappointment with having daughters instead of sons happens everywhere and is not seen at nearly the same level in reverse
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:57 PM
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Sorry honey there are filters that can be applied to videos too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:09 PM
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But do these men not realise their ideal which is the body type all women they date will be compared to doesn’t actually exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:17 PM
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But the majority of responses for ideal body type are photoshopped to have unrealistic proportions? That’s not a wide range of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:08 PM
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How much do Photoshop and Facetuning influence men’s ideas about their dream women? If you get used to seeing bodies that are so snatched they can no longer fit organs does this set you up for disappointment in real women? There’s a post on here asking for ideal female body type and every pic is obviously photoshopped
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:57 PM
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Hate to break it to you but her waist is 100% photoshopped
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:47 PM
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It’s interesting how hated instagram is on here. I use a private profile to keep up with what my friends are doing, follow small businesses and tattoo artists and watch cat videos. I think it’s important to remember there are algorithms at work with social media. Don’t assume your exclusively bikini clad thirst trap instagram is the same as everyone else’s. I’m all for age limits and protecting young people but banning outright is melodramatic. Also how much coupling up do you think is happening…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:11 PM
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No I don’t there are no guarantees in life. I do believe that men here want to be handed a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:24 PM
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I agree but men are big mad about height
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:23 PM
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For men age factors are less important/ can be better to be older
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:23 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:22 PM
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Highest divorce rate is people who married young
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:22 PM
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But the youth that men crave tends to be only a small margin. I think most people don’t have the experience or wisdom to select well at 18. And again your youth will fade and he moves on. And if she selects wrong then the vitriol towards her is high no?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:19 PM
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That might be the high fashion model type unusual features that stand out. Celebrities tend to be more conventionally beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:15 PM
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To men who think height is an unfair standard because it can’t be changed. Do you think that youth is an unfair standard for women? It also can’t be changed in fact it will always be lost. Like if you lost an inch every year
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:14 PM
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I think where we’re disagreeing is in the identification with what is average and above average. I guess I’m comparing Margot to people in general and you are comparing her to only attractive celebrities? Agree or no? Because yes above average
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:09 PM
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I get ya. But have you seen Margot Robbie in a swimsuit? Is that really an average body? She is skinny and has curves in all the right places
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:01 PM
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True but there is a lot of concern on here about how I shouldn’t have to lower my standard/ your standards are too high. So the question of how do you rate yourself and how do you rate others is interesting. I think most people here aren’t as hot as Margot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:58 PM
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Congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:55 PM
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Isn’t it usually I’ll sleep with her but would be embarrassed to be seen with her? My point is that men do care about facial attraction a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:54 PM
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Also isn’t butter face used as an insult by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:47 PM
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Do you consider your body mid or hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:45 PM
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To the men who think Margot Robbie is mid: do you think you are also mid? Do you believe your looksmatch is Margot Robbie level attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:39 PM
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There are men who fantasise about women losing the right to vote and losing their jobs on mass so they beg to date the lonely sad men they rejected. Don’t pretend mens revenge fantasies don’t get extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:31 AM
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Are you in the one week without sex = no assets after divorce club? No excuses allowed apart from physical health
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:52 AM
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Cool no complaining about declining birth rates
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:23 AM
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Is there a way to go 50/50 on the pregnancy and maternity leave? She’s losing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:20 AM
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Would you want to your spouse to stay home to raise the children while they are young? This causes a loss of income which with your new marriage laws would cause a severely reduced division of assets in the divorce or a 100% loss of assets if the husband has gone without sex for longer than a week. If you would require your spouse to immediately return to work are you using daycare? Are you working from home with the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:15 AM
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Do you want children?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:07 AM
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You have a sore back and don’t want to have sex with your wife for a week and she can take you to court and gain 100% of the marriage assets?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:29 AM
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And that means they are entitled to zero marriage assets after the divorce? Because their partner decided on an arbitrary amount that was unacceptable to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:38 AM
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One week? Then you have to give away all of the marriage assets you earned in the divorce. That’s insane. Post pregnancy alone is six weeks because of the risk of infection. You can’t go without one week?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:36 AM
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Why not just break up?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:25 AM
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How many times is the wife allowed to say no to sex before she should forfeit the right to assets created in the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:00 PM
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Do you assume that the marital assets belong entirely to the husband? The default should be halved
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:09 PM
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So men should be hypergamous and monkey-branch?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:04 PM
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Why would you not break up if you are unsatisfied with the relationship? Why is cheating the solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:00 PM
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If you don’t have sex you’re not monogamous? That’s one I haven’t heard before. What’s the time frame on that happening? It’s interesting we keep coming back to the idea that divorce proceedings should in some way punish women who don’t have sex. You can’t have an annulment after 20 years of marriage where she hasn’t had sex with you for two years. Yes there will be a division of assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:40 PM
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I mean you’re talking about changing the way family court works as if it’s the easiest thing in the world. I think you’re being unrealistic. There is a long history of established cases the law is based on, you’d have to change the way the law is works, how it’s taught. You’d need a huge number of people to be on board with this change. There’d be massive overreaching consequences to doing this. It can happen in the way that all the water in the world can evaporate tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:26 PM
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The division of assets isn’t used to punish bad behaviour in a marriage with the entirety of the assets goes to the wronged party
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:19 PM
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I was having multiple discussions with men on my previous post with men who insisted they are allowed to cheat if their wives don’t have sex with them. I wanted to make a separate post to ask these men about this belief. I phrased the question as for men who believe they should be allowed to cheat if their wives don’t have sex with them for x amount of time. Nobody is forcing you to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:12 PM
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Well that’s bleak but unsurprising. It’s the husbands that are likely lying to them. Why are you so sure the wives knew on some level?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:08 PM
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The current practice is not if a wife doesn’t have sex with her husband for x amount of time she gets nothing in the division of assets. That is what he believes should happen. Do you agree with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:05 PM
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Cheating isn’t viewed positively. If he wants to divorce he can. You can’t control what people think
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:03 PM
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What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:58 PM
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Well I suppose you don’t know what the arrangements with their wives were. Maybe they would be heartbroken if they found out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:58 PM
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Glad these guys don’t make the law. Terrifying
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:57 PM
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Correct so it doesn’t create legal penalties in the division of assets in the divorce. Are you pro cheating because it’s not a crime? What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:55 PM
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Vice versa? So the husband should loose all the assets if he doesn’t take care of his wife’s needs in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:49 PM
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The division of assets in divorce is based on the assets accumulated over the marriage with the assumption that a married couple does this together. Do you believe that if they divorce without her being at fault in this way that she should receive a division of assets? Not having sex with your husband isn’t illegal and doesn’t carry legal penalties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:37 PM
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That would depend on the man. But if he can find somebody how do you view his cheating. I’ve talked to other men who suggested he should be allowed to cheat and that it’s his only option. Do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:29 PM
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Let me guess the sacrifice is having sex with someone you don’t want to have sex with because they need it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:47 PM
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Let me guess the sacrifice being having sex with people you don’t want to have sex with because they need it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:46 PM
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My main arguments are: I have seen posts that place sex as a fundamental human need on the same level as water food and shelter with the suggestion that sexless men suffer deep psychological harm. I think that these posts suggest that woman are withholding something fundamental to survival by denying them sex and are being cruel by doing so. There is no ethical obligation to have sex. On this post are rants about how by denying men sex women are going to face a reckoning where an incel army will…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:35 PM
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There is no grand conspiracy to withhold sex from men what are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:12 PM
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I genuinely don’t know how else to interpret this? I also don’t believe a lack of sex is oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:10 PM
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Do you believe that refusing to have sex with somebody who is a virgin makes you a bad person…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:40 AM
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You can divorce a partner who doesn’t want to get a divorce you might need to take them to court to get it done.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:35 AM
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But parents who don’t love their children are viewed negatively and judged for it. Even if they can’t force it the expectation is that they will love their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:34 AM
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Not sure if I understand the comparison. The need for sex doesn’t fit with other needs because it requires the willing consent of another person such as the need for companionship? While the need for food or shelter can be fulfilled by an individual? So food and shelter are trolley and sex is lottery?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:32 AM
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Then get a divorce. But here’s the thing I’m just a person on the internet I can’t stop you from cheating. I won’t know if you cheat. Also cheating isn’t illegal. The consequences of cheating are social. Are you looking for me to tell you that if your girlfriend says no to sex a certain number of times you can cheat and it’s morally justified and nobody will ever get angry or look down on you? That’s not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:57 AM
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We don’t know the context of this hypothetical relationship. Do you think that saying no to sex is cruel?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:50 AM
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It is the definition of cheating. How do you define cheating??? If you want a divorce the other person doesn’t have to agree it’s just harder to do. You could get seperated if you don’t want to be together. You are your own person? You don’t have to stay with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:41 AM
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Are you talking about an open relationship that’s discussed between partners? Or cheating? Because no cheating is not socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:27 AM
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What does ok mean in this context? If your partner finds out and wants to break up with you because they find cheating unacceptable they have every right to do so. If there are social consequences from cheating where your friends or family view you negatively they are allowed to feel that way. Feeling that it was justified cheating doesn’t protect you from that. Cheating is viewed negatively by the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:23 AM
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I think you’d be surprised by how fringe your fantasies are. Your lonely incel uprising would be cut short. The majority of men would not join you in creating this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:39 AM
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So have sex with sexless men or they’ll be forced to r*** us??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:34 AM
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The question of duty sex has come up before in these debates. The lie back and think of England crowd is alive and well. I believe the psychological harm caused by having sex you don’t want is greater than the psychological harm caused by not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:13 PM
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We should not make decisions as a society based on the threat of an incel army. What will happen if they do? They’ll probably end up in jail for their crimes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:08 PM
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Fundamental to human survival will die without them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:07 PM
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The people here who argue that it is? It’s a trending question
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:06 PM
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I like that. I think that peoples needs can be at odds but freedoms trumps all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:37 PM
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Because this is purple pill debate and all of the discussion is about sexless men and what they need.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:36 PM
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Most people pursue romance I don’t think this is demonised. How you go about it can be. The psychological burden of not having sex? I do think the extreme significance people place on it is too much. Sex vs companionship or other love. Loneliness vs lack of sex? They are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:34 PM
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I’m responding to posts and opinions I’ve seen here. There are people who view sex as fundamentally necessary to human existence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:31 PM
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Completely. I do think people are talking about sex when they should be talking about love and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:30 PM
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This may depend on the individual. People can become fixated on one goal and ignore all other possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:28 PM
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Sex can be a fundamental need for you in your relationship. I believe more harm is caused by obligating someone to have sex who doesn’t want it than somebody missing out on sex. There are plenty of reasons for sexlessness work on it together if you can or perhaps break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:25 PM
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I don’t believe we as a society have an obligation to provide sex for sexless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:23 PM
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With love I believe the parents are responsible for fulfilling this need in children. Yes there are monstrous parents who do not love their children and do not meet their needs. But we view these parents as morally bankrupt. In this way love has obligations. With sex and romantic love there are plenty of people here who fault the people who reject them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:22 PM
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Genetic death of individuals has always been inevitable in a population. A sex drive has been fundamental to the continuation of the human race yes. But if you can’t find somebody who wants to be with you and raise children with you then yes you too will be a genetic dead end. Nobody is obligated to do this just because you need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:19 PM
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People have plenty of urges many cannot be acted upon if they are to live in society. You can’t punch your boss even if they really piss you off. The individual is the one responsible for managing their urges not for society or others to fulfill them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:13 PM
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There are plenty of people claiming that sex is a fundamental need as with water food and shelter. They are claiming a lack of sex causes severe psychological harm. I am responding that there should be no obligation to save people from this harm. As people are not obligated to continue the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:11 PM
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My issue with the claim that sex is a psychological need is that it places pressure on the person who is denying sex. The idea that denying sex is harmful with claims that it is as fundamental to human existence as love. People should not feel ethically obligated to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:08 PM
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In my country medication is subsidised by the government with only a prescription fee of $5. This is not exclusive to birth control but covers the majority of medication that is deemed necessary. Please remember that birth control is also used for medical reasons such as irregular and painful periods and hormone imbalances.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:06 PM
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For love there is a moral and ethical obligation from parents to love their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:02 PM
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