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CMVMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 03:31 PM
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CMVMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 03:07 PM
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Question for RedPillMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:54 PM
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CMVMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 12:10 AM
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MissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:07 AM
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DiscussionMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 12:20 AM
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Question for RedPillMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:05 PM
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Q4WomenMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 11:50 PM
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Question for RedPillMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 06:12 PM
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DiscussionMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:01 AM
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DiscussionMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 11:54 AM
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Question for RedPillMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 02:11 AM
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DiscussionMissMaude/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 12:37 AM
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Awwww hell yeah!! MARRIAGE SUPREMACY!! 🙌🏼💍👊🏼 My parents have been married for 48 years and my in laws for 38!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:28 AM
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That’s the joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:59 PM
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First of all: how dare you?!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 07:03 AM
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Literally what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:51 AM
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You have talked repeatedly about your fat gf’s. Why are you always projecting your weird sad shit on me???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:08 AM
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Incel because short wasn’t famous though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:50 AM
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Yup! He’s an artist- not an actor/performer though. He actually makes an impressive living for the arts but that’s relative...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:48 AM
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BUT HOW MANY OF THEM ARE UMC
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:44 AM
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Cool! MOVING GOALPOSTS!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:41 AM
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I seriously can’t believe you are linking that transparent shit twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:40 AM
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That is an ad, you dolt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:34 AM
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Choosing a client does not mean they are attracted to them or enjoy sex with them in the way a woman who is picking her partner for non-sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:29 AM
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I can’t tell if you’re joking with/in this thread TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:26 AM
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You... you don’t actually believe that do you???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:24 AM
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Seems like the monetary return would be the difference in motivations for the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:23 AM
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Shush. How about we do a 347 long comment chain where I try to weasel the word “philosophical” into meaning “monetary”??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:17 AM
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$3000. #mathishard
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:14 AM
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YASSS BITCH. (there goes my plan to be reddit free in January...)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:13 AM
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You’re conflating financial stability with status and again with “a man’s job.” I make significantly more than my husband but he has a “cool” job/career. His job doesn’t give us much money (in comparison to mine) and requires us to live in expensive areas. However, I find his work- and his passion for his work- very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 01:03 AM
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Well that is convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 10:42 PM
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I think it’s thrown out when the (incorrect for any demo) “50% of people get divorced” is stated. Funny thing is cheating is just as common in UMC, they just stay married for the money. Again with stats lacking context- is cheating on men as RP claims is rampant happening in the UMC or is there nuance that may give us more insight?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 10:27 PM
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Whether they are human nature is debatable. Regardless, there is a whole section of society where this claimed universal behavior is not happening. The resistance to even discussing that group and their tactics is confusing to me. RP is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 10:24 PM
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You do realize that when bloops (myself included) mention that X isn’t an issue in UMC circles we are merely demonstrating that these behaviors are not simply human nature, right? The things many people on this sub claim are universal are actually unique to certain groups/communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 09:16 PM
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My parents wouldn’t allow me to be alone with my sweet 16 year old bf- they never would have allowed a 30 year old man to speak to me let alone date me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:46 PM
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That guy is CRAZY.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:44 PM
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I thought the definition of omega was a man who could not have sex. I have not heard of this definition. Anyway, like I said labeling people as omega or beta or alpha is too hard to nail down. Labeling traits is more straight forward and seems to be a vocabulary most pills can align on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 06:07 PM
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That is a weird definition of “beta.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:54 AM
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This is one of the stupidest things I have read on PPD and that’s saying a lot. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 05:17 PM
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“Shaming”- really??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 05:08 PM
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I was laying out what didn’t make sense to me in the previous post not stating it as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 04:33 PM
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No- this is incorrect. It has never made sense to me to call people “alpha,” “beta,” or “omega”- they are traits. But even if you buy into the idea of labeling people like that your definition doesn’t make sense. An ugly man doesn’t “become” beta simply because he has a job...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 03:23 PM
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No but I am 5’2”(ish) and my n-count is 1 soooo....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:45 PM
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What👏🏻The👏🏻Fuck👏🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 07:14 PM
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Most of the comments are just saying they’re incompatible which is absolutely true. (Also oh my god these posts are really funny stuff. He’s also into fashion; especially some obscure Japanese designers that nobody has ever heard that make these black clothes that make you look like a Vampire or something. Yup totally real and not the fevered dreams of a human Cheeto.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 05:27 PM
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Not in my demographic 💃🏻💅🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 05:38 AM
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.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 05:37 AM
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I do but then RPers call me “snowflake” 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 03:52 AM
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Yes of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 03:16 AM
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I did not but now I feel really super special. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 02:42 AM
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Look at the stats again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 02:39 AM
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Marriage rates are plummeting for lower classes. Divorce rates are high for lower classes. I am trying to understand how this shit isn’t just #proleproblems
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 01:39 AM
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What? Why would it be???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 01:38 AM
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What stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 01:04 AM
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IME: nerds add to their interests and get chicks but are still nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:46 AM
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Or we turn them into happy husbands!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:06 AM
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I am not afraid TRP is going to turn nerds into noncompliant Chads. I am worried TRP is going to turn kinda sad nerds into angry, mean jerks (who are still nerds).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:24 PM
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So you’re blaming porn for a trend you see in porn??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:09 AM
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Guess again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 06:52 PM
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What you are describing is rape. Talk to a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 09:12 AM
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One of us will bring up a concern to the other and we talk it out. He is usually less talkative by nature and I cry- not for any reason other than heightened emotions make me cry as a rule. He is fine with the crying, basically ignores it and keeps working through whatever the issue is with me. We’ll take breaks (this hard for me but I am getting better). We make a plan for moving forward and hug and make up. The issue sometimes pops up again but usually we have made some progress. We really onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 02:14 PM
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Live in Utah and you’ll get your own planet!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 02:23 AM
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Paul can eat dicks. I am an agnostic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:28 PM
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Nope- just seeing if you were a hypocrite in addition to being illogical and ill informed about religious marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:24 PM
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Kay- imagine the ED works like your magical sickness where a woman cannot have sex for years. Can she go get some D at some point? How will her husband feel about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:19 PM
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How do you think ED works??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:17 PM
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If a man has ED, can his wife go get some on the side?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:15 PM
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Nope. Growing up in Mormonville- I read a lot about the polygamous frontier families and it is difficult not by default but by design. It’s meant to break your sinful, selfish spirit and make you ready for heaven. This was considered a holy burden placed upon a chosen people who cheerfully pushed wheelbarrows from Ohio to fucking Utah. NO THANK YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:24 PM
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For as much as I am here- I first heard that like a month ago. Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:44 PM
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Well I disagree on the hierarchy thing, obvs. This why only looking at the female behaviors can confuse things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:30 PM
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Put in the sidebar!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:29 PM
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You underestimate my ability to recognize when being served isn’t what someone wants or needs. Kisses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:26 PM
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I am not kidding, IRL, I treat most people like children. Are you hungry, cold or lonely? Lemme help you! Playing with people is fun. Being enthusiastic with people is fun. It makes my life better and people seem to enjoy my company. It would be better world if we were all a bit gentler with eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:19 PM
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I observe that people having fun treat each other like children. Women watch men do stupid shit like they are their moms watching them do a cannon ball at the pool. We heap on praise and laugh at dumb jokes. We ride in your trucks/sports cars and indulge you like you are little boys going “vroom, vroom” with power wheels. Don’t be silly- women indulge (what I think RPers mean by “treat women like children”) men too. I know, I know- “RPers don’t care about men, they don’t want to fuck them!” but …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:17 PM
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The issue is that marriage is an incredibly powerful tool in creating and insuring generational wealth and advancement. Yes, this is important for people who already have money but it also allows people to move up social classes. The fact that the lower classes are not marrying and robbing themselves of this stability. Of course divorce can be financially ruinous but I think many are throwing the baby out with the bath water...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 04:08 PM
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I agree with you. We do not train people for marriage. Expectations are not set correctly and people give up on their marriage for not giving them constant happiness when that shouldn’t have been a guarantee. (I will say the MRP notion that attraction is the ultimate key to marital happiness & longevity has to be one of the stupider solutions I have seen and definitely part of the limerence lie you laid out. No amount of thrashing from unhappily married or single men will convince me otherwise.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 03:54 PM
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It’s gross that you think your descriptions are impressive and not just cringey and reminiscent of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:31 AM
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Sounds like revenge fantasy to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 08:17 PM
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I don’t know if 33 counts as older but I’ll bite. I was never drowning in male attention so haven’t noticed a decline. I am married which is a relief looking at the dates my single friends go on. Honestly, I felt this way in my 20’s too. It’s just now, most of my friends don’t act like I am crazy for not staying single. I am happy with the love and pats I get from my partner of 12 years. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 07:44 PM
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I wish you hadn’t told ME... so no do not tell women IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 07:40 PM
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When in Rome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 07:36 PM
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I’d be grossed out. But dealbreaker? I don’t know about that- I’d have to be not too into him to hamster it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 07:12 PM
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One goes with the other. Not they don’t. It is unrealistic to expect men to be outgoing chatterboxes Right which is why I don’t expect that. My husband is quiet and would rather I do the intros with new people but he is not socially awkward. You’re creating a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 07:06 PM
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Shy yes, awkward no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:48 PM
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I think you are confusing the theory with current application. Old school RPers do not say Beta traits are unattractive. They are just not attractive in excess or in the complete absence of alpha traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:40 PM
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Traits. A single trait does not define a person. Also being introverted =\= socially awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:18 PM
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I disagree with your definitions. Omega traits are just unattractive, good beta traits are romantically attractive, good alpha traits are sexually attractive. However being emotionally unpredictable or violent is an alpha trait- not always hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:15 PM
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I am not calling people omegas. I am calling traits omega. Just because many people have them doesn’t make them NOT omega traits. Having an omega trait doesn’t make a man “disgusting” as as other good traits often counteract it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:07 PM
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Sounds like a super fun way to be married 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 04:50 AM
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Again: It is pointless to classify people as “beta” or “omega.” They’re traits. It’s like I am saying “there are no good or bad people only good or bad actions” and you’re saying “BUT GOOD PEOPLE DO BAD THINGS SO THESE THINGS ARE GOOD WHEN DONE BY GOOD PEOPLE.” The actions are still bad and for some reason you’re not following that I am classifying traits not people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 11:28 PM
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It is pointless to classify people as “beta” or “omega.” They’re traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 10:45 PM
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Alpha: dominance, masculinity, inconsistency and excitement (female sexual attraction) Beta: consistency, kindness, consideration, (female romantic attraction) Omega: supplication, desperation, ineptitude (female repulsion) One does not need to be “at fault” for a trait to be omega... Disclaimer: check the flair. I don’t buy this the way RPers apply it. Just talking theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 06:16 PM
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I have 0 interest in classifying people as omega, beta or alpha- let alone fictional characters from a show with dragons. I am talking about traits. Being unattractive, an emotional dormat and socially awkward are omega traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 04:57 PM
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No “chubby bald round faced” are omega traits. “Daddy” (consistent, considerate, parental) and “engineer” (stable providership)= beta traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 04:46 PM
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Being physically unattractive, acting as an emotional doormat, social awkwardness to name a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 02:32 AM
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RPers constantly misclassify omega traits as beta. This confuses the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 02:03 AM
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OR she would have been fine with his body if he had been better in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 04:53 PM
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Omg: savage and accurate. 10/10. Would upvote again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 10:42 PM
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What do we call the more chaste women who actively reject the CC and hold out for a LTR even if they have to wait longer? Mrs. 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:44 AM
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Reminds me of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 09:09 PM
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The Natalie character is young and unreasonable. Alex is describing the things that matter, to her, now that she has experience. I don't see her description as sad at all especially seeing the way the scene was directed/acted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 09:01 PM
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ahaha! You made my day :D
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:12 PM
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I honestly, truly think that if you are concerned with quantity of love: you’re doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 04:17 PM
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Women also report more orgasms if they rate their partners as “creative or humorous” and if they have compatible genetics for offspring with increased immunity. I am not saying physical attraction doesn’t impact female sexual satisfaction- I am saying it is less directly related than men’s and the way men talk about it on this sub is projection. Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17100780/ Source: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/147470491401200507
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 02:21 PM
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I thought the low point was "polyamorois"...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 10:09 PM
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Do your friends get paid in beer? Do you move speakers for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:43 PM
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I am sure my experience spending 10 years in the arts would sound odd to someone who has friends in bands.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:30 PM
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I would say “yes.” But let’s look at your definition. -Be stylish. Yes? I am better dressed/groomed in my 30’s than I was in my 20’s though. -Don't be a slut. My husband didn’t care about it BUT I will say avoiding sex helped me keep my head about me and not think I was in love with ONS. So being reserved on sexual activities helped me but not because potential mates cared. -Never let him know that you're smarter than he is. No. This is silly. Don’t be a bitch. Be gracious when you know more abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:21 PM
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Because she’s amazing???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:14 PM
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Hahahahahahahahah. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:30 PM
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My husband is a working artist. I have written and produced shows for 10 years. We live on a compound with artists. But sure- YOU know about arts culture more than me 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:21 PM
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This is male view where quality of sex is directly related to how physically attractive their partner is. This is not how many women experience sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:02 PM
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Oh honey...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:42 AM
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No? I’d probably get praise for it TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:42 AM
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You’re right and no one likes it. 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:28 AM
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Low dom women don’t even want the pumping part...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:27 AM
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Autistic- a sexist would be social suicide in my artsy, bohemian circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:11 AM
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I can only speak to my experience as a 1 n-count woman, very happily married to what I would consider a low dominance man. I don’t like conflict. I like when people get along. I like that mom and my dad like my husband- I felt no desire to date men they disapproved of for some sort of rebellion play. My husband has healthy boundaries but he is gentle with me and I don’t engage in what RPers refer to as “shit testing” because I do not crave authority or dominance. I want comfort and kindness. Col…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 07:49 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 07:25 PM
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Never. I am married (also- “mall”- 😐). I smile at plenty of people especially now I don’t live in a giant city.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 07:05 PM
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I am stating I disagree with you- that's an odd definition of trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 06:16 PM
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I think your analysis is spot on! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 06:15 PM
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why not say WHY you think I am wrong You're unpleasant and uninterested of ideas outside your preconceived notions. Also, stating the obvious is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 06:11 PM
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What universe do you live in where men and women have identical sexual priorities and experiences??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 05:39 PM
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(That means you’re wrong.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 05:27 PM
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Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 05:20 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:38 PM
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Actually, other than the chubby thing the male character sounded how I imagine RPers. The dominance plays and paternal moves on a much younger woman all seemed red to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:35 PM
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During sex, he moved her through a series of positions with brusque efficiency, flipping her over, pushing her around, and she felt like a doll again, as she had outside the 7-Eleven, though not a precious one now—a doll made of rubber, flexible and resilient, a prop for the movie that was playing in his head. RPers/“women wanna be treated like objects” proponents, take note.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 03:35 PM
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Not really, if you put in more effort than the last girl it already shows the last girl was probably better or got a better version of that guy See how silly that sounds?? A goal of “putting the least amount of effort in of all the men she’s been with” is arbitrary. You think you found truth but you really found fear. The scariest answer isn’t always “the truth.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 06:29 PM
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Comparison is the thief of joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 05:24 PM
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This is the attitude I am talking about. It’s bizarre and such a guarantee of unhappiness down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 04:54 PM
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None of the men are in the hyperbolic situation I am describing. That is the IDEAL which impacts their viewpoint of the non-ideal situation they are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 07:12 AM
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Sigh. I am saying that THE IDEAL laid out by RPers/people buying into this worldview is a guy making a comically small level of investment in a woman and getting enthusiastic sex from her. This is often laid out in an deeply exaggerated way that humiliates the woman in question. E.G. “FR: I took a plate to mini golf. She paid and gave me tera anal in front of the windmill after I called her a cunt for shit testing about soft pretzels. RP confirmed.” If you buy into that worldview and you are a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 05:34 AM
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Did you not read what I said about “winning”? a man “wins” by getting freaky, enthusiastic sex without giving any time or consideration to a woman. Defining “winning” as a mutually beneficial relationship is not what I was describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 03:27 AM
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😂☠️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 03:22 AM
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Okay this doesn’t read like a request for advice for a personal issue- it reads like a theory discussion about a relatively common issue. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 03:11 AM
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You and I both know the issue isn’t desiring enthusiasm, it’s desiring enthusiasm while offering no effort on his part. I swear some red pillers act like couponers trying to get 37 cases of deodorant for $0.02.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 02:48 AM
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Why would anyone give a shit about something happening in 2% of relationships??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 02:46 AM
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1) Your post is pretty clearly just about women, is it not? 2) Of course, people settle. Everyone settles a bit as humans are imperfect but I think you are vastly overestimating how much people settle. I also think you misunderstand how and why people have sex in LTR’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 02:04 AM
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I don’t think this is a real phenomenon. It’s just the nightmare side of a male power fantasy. First of all, it relies on the sad (and frankly unsexy) idea that a man “wins” by getting freaky, enthusiastic sex without giving any time or consideration to a woman. If one believes a man “wins” like this, they will also be terrified they’ll “lose” by not getting/getting infrequent, unenthusiastic sex even after investing. It also hinges on the idea that women don’t really like sex they’re only doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 01:50 AM
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I am glad your child recovered and I am sorry they had a rough go at the beginning. This changes nothing about the absurdity of your claims in the OP or that your experience was a two non-working parent household and not a SAHP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:19 PM
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My question was so inappropriate you replied with a tongue in cheek response? And again: why are you asking me to apologize for other people’s comments? I didn’t/don’t believe ANYONE who claims what you do about newborn care knows what they’re talking about regardless of genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:03 PM
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Why are you quoting other people at me? I asked you a tongue in cheek question because I (correctly) guessed that your claims sounded off. I am so insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 03:40 PM
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Questioning you/the details of your claimed experience caring for a child is not an ad hominem attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 12:29 AM
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So you co-parented with another adult who also wasn’t working and are comparing that to being a SAHM?? What marketable skills did you foster in that time since you were literally doing 50% (or less given it sounds like the child was breast feeding) of the work a SAHM does?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 11:35 PM
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Well, if you’re letting a newborn sleep for 16 hours, I assume they’d starve. Was the mother also present? Your claims on the amount of time caring for a newborn requires makes 0 sense and I am trying to understand what set up leads you to the claims you make in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 08:16 PM
1

Did they survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 08:04 PM
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Full time? Meaning you know how often they need to be woken up to be fed. How much time goes into sleep training etc? Have you ever worked from home? Do you understand that Facebook can be shut off for a crying baby and online classes/tests and quizzes cannot be?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:52 PM
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Have you looked after a newborn, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:42 PM
1

I would hope that feminists would be able to differentiate between the film/art pattern of the “male gaze” (the former) and objectification (possibly the latter depending on circumstances). Right now YOU are confusing the two things. If you think feminists are opposed to objectification you’re right but then use the right terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:18 PM
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OMFG “YOUR” IS POSSESSIVE AND “YOU’RE” IS THE CONTRACTION FOR “YOU ARE.” The clip above is relating to the definition of scopophilia - which is in the clip. I refuse to believe one can be this stupid. You’re (you are) a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:11 PM
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Dude. Male gaze is a term used to describe a pattern in narrative film and art. It does not mean “men looking at women IRL” or “men being attracted to women.” You used it incorrectly while linking to it. You also don’t appear to know what “your” vs “you’re” means but at least you’re (you are) not linking to articles on contractions??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 04:15 PM
12

I want a new criteria for reporting: “this is stupid.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 03:16 PM
5

This has to be a troll, right??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 03:09 PM
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But this is how it's used. Incorrectly. This how it is used incorrectly. How else could they view it? Using its actual definition. It's labeled as men looking at women. No. It’s misunderstood as “men looking at women.” Creating a fake definition for something and then critiquing it falls well within “strawmanning” don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 03:04 PM
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Thank you. Saving to link to later!! Too many people see “male gaze” and think “men looking at women hur dur.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 07:56 AM
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It’s not moving goal posts, it’s what the term means. Most feminist terms can be linked back to patriarchy theory but that doesn’t mean all feminist terms are interchangeable. You used a specific term incorrectly while linking to its definition. You’re wrong. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 07:44 AM
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No. I am identifying your incorrect classification as incorrect. Male gaze has to do with narrative/artistic representation. The woman is passive to the active gaze from the man. This adds an element of "patriarchal" order, and it is often seen in "illusionistic narrative film".[4]:14 Mulvey argues that, in mainstream cinema, the male gaze typically takes precedence over the female gaze, reflecting an underlying power asymmetry.[5]:127
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 07:35 AM
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1) duh. hyper achievers want to achieve in all arenas. 2) You linked to an article on the male gaze but did you read it? Because you’re completely misclassifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 07:25 AM
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Thing 2 is a precious angel and would never. #Thing2squad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 03:36 AM
1

When faced with the grand guesture I described vs a coffee date request you seriously could not guess which one was “creepy”? This lack of understanding of social mores seems off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 10:06 PM
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Delusion seems lovely. Have fun 👋🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 10:02 PM
1

Where have you seen “ask a girl I have had one 1:1 convo with out to coffee” described as creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 09:55 PM
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... unreadable. Meaning bad writing to the point of incoherence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 09:44 PM
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This is unreadable and also does not remove a modicum of doubt about what you’re doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 09:32 PM
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Guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 09:31 PM
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Frankly, the women TRP complain and angst over seem, well...trashy as fuck. Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 09:17 PM
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Well people complaining about a dude they talked to ONCE and calling him a “friend” are dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 06:32 PM
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I think you are reading “romantic interests from a friend” as “ask a girl I have had one 1:1 convo with out to coffee” when really women mean “this guy who has watched movies at my house 47 times and has never touched me asked me out with 12 dozen roses in a public place and then wrote weird poetry about me which he then read in our creative writing class”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 06:29 PM
2

When?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 06:22 PM
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Which is fine. Asking someone out is not going to get you black listed. Repeatedly pestering her with lists of WHY she should date you, calling her a bitch for rejecting you or asking out every woman in your social circle will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 06:19 PM
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One on one, non-romantic time. I assume he’s not into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 06:18 PM
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Doubt it. So much is contextual. Can you observe girls with men they are clearly interested in? (Watch out for prolonged eye contact, an excess of laughter and arm touching.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 06:17 PM
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Get an IOI first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 06:08 PM
2

🐸☕️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 05:10 PM
2

Did you not read what I posted above? Are your repeated threads NOT related to the recent discussions about whether “Forever Gf’s” can be “high quality women”???
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:53 PM
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I have a reason. Your repeated attempts to vantriloquist validation from BPW make for bad threads. Sure, they are technically within the rules of the sub but the fact that you wait a day to post a new one doesn’t make it any less compulsive. Edit: And not even to me, but to her. I mean if you were at a party would you treat her poorly? I am not being rude to your forever gf. I made a snide comment under the automoderater because “these threads are dumb” and I want to know “Can we stop this now??…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:31 PM
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Knowledge of an exchange that had nothing to do with me is “egocentric”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:28 PM
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1) being 2) a forever 3) gf. These threads are dumb. Can we stop this now???
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:53 PM
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Okay you made me literally laugh aloud. Good work, you!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:52 AM
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We both moved past it because it’s needlessly pedantic...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 09:25 PM
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If he wanted clarity, he’d ask for it. He’s a big boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 08:38 PM
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He was saying it to me. Why do you need me to explain to you the shorthand Lewis and I are using effectively?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 08:35 PM
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Boxes or patterns or whatever term you want to use. The reported actions and/or motivations of the women on this sub are not aligning to the behaviors and deduced motivations of the women you meet in real life. That makes sense, right? They are different groups of women. When women start acting consistently with how they talk, then we'll start believing what they say. But we have already established that the women you are talking to here are different women than those you interact with IRL right…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:48 PM
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I believe you are an expert on YOUR inner life. I am not so sure you are an expert on WOMEN's inner lives. This is a quote from Lewis. I am using his terms and commonly used terminology on this sub and IRC. He and I appear to be on the same page about the topic we’re discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:21 PM
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If we are simply outliers then why do this? The prime reason we do this is because when we TRPers ask women (not necessarily women who post here) about their lives, relationships, marriages, their partners' qualities, their circumstances, et al.; we often, most of the time in fact, get answers that, to put it charitably, are completely inconsistent with what we see and know about those women. If we are outliers why engage with us at all? Why try to fit our behaviors into the boxes you have creat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:16 PM
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He's claiming to be an expert on some things and not other things. No, he’s not claiming to be an expert on anything but then literally describes himself as not only an expert but more honest than women to boot. Hiding behind “observer” doesn’t change that. Women's lives and what attracts women are not the same identical thing. We on a subreddit about relationships- I am not under the assumption we are talking about anything but women’s romantic lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:12 PM
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Do you agree that, often, women aren't completely honest about what attracts them? I think here, on an anonymous subreddit about relationship dynamics, women have very little incentive to lie about what attracts them. Do you agree that many times, what they are doing isn't consistent with what they're saying ? I think you are not seeing the women here IRL. I think it is possible that a vin diagram of the women/type of women here- talking about their preferences- and the women you see acting in p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:08 PM
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Let me clarify your stance then: do you think you understand more/better what attracts women than most women? Than most women here? Do you think you understand better what individual women are attracted to than they are themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:23 PM
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I am reading exactly what is there: contradictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:21 PM
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So you don’t consider yourself an expert except you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:17 PM
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I do not have time to post examples right now. I believe you are an expert on YOUR inner life. I am not so sure you are an expert on WOMEN's inner lives. Do you consider yourself to be an expert on women’s lives externally or internally?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:14 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:56 PM
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I understand that you’re wrong. I also understand the deep irony of RPers lecturing women on our spouses. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:31 PM
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You know what’s not mutually exclusive? Being RP and lecturing BP women about the traits of the actual men we are married to. In fact, it’s constant. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:54 PM
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For hooking up with: close in proximity and not hideous. For relationships: Tall, liberal, indulgent, kind, patient, permeable to new ideas but firm in his core beliefs, passionate about what he does professionally, family minded, protective, gets/values my crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:27 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7g4hsq/feminism_and_the_red_pill_have_far_more_in_common/dqgihs3/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:44 PM
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The loudest feminists actively oppose the all male draft? OMGIKNOWRIGHT
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:26 PM
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Putting your partner and, more importantly, your marriage before yourself. This can mean a lot of things: being generous in how you view his contributions, communicating clearly, being able to shake off small issues, sacrificing short term happiness for a long term goal, and generally picking your battles. (This makes for a good spouse not just wife TBH.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 10:38 PM
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I want to be fair, first and foremost, and then kind. I want to be a good wife and, if the opportunity arises, a good mother. I want to work to live not vice versa. I want to leave the world a better place than I joined it in whatever small way I can. I want the people I love people to feel loved and supported by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 10:21 PM
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One person can't do all that much more than advocate for what they believe in. Kay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 08:13 PM
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Do you understand the difference in signing up and serving or the difference is signing up when there is a slight possibility that one could be drafted vs signing up when there is no likelihood a draft will be held? The “responsibility” you claim is effectively paperwork. And again: I’ll ask why you haven’t joined a campaign to abolish or include women in the draft? Why do you not feel the urgency to change this? Does it have anything to do with no one being drafted?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:59 PM
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Sigh. No. Signing up has 0 impact on male lives. Serving would have an impact but no one is being forced to serve. You are not taking into account culture or how a draft would play out politically. Because of this culture, people know that the draft is never going to happen. This is why people do not care about it. Draft some 18 year olds and the blow back would be monsterous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:41 PM
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Again, everyone is making the same effort you are: none. (Declaring something on reddit is not “doing something.”) The reason people are or aren’t making an effort differs but it is fruitless to say “People need to agree with my stance and then they should do something about it. Not that I am doing anything about it... but clearly the issue is people agreeing with me which means they’ll do something... cuz reasons.” It seems your only concern is lip service.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:36 PM
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Who do you think forms “big campaigns”? It’s hypocritical to rail against people not doing something about female exclusion from the draft when you are also not doing anything. Your excuses are similar to their excuses except many of us get that the draft is effectively dead. The only way to get rid of it completely is if an idiot tries to draft a bunch of 18 year olds into service then people will get riled up. Until then everyone is making the same (no) effort you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:04 PM
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You’ve got a real generous definition of “be the change”...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:26 PM
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Neat. Let me know when that goes into effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:22 PM
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The responsibility is serving not signing up. Do you honestly think that if a draft began 1) helicopter moms of 18 year olds wouldn’t storm Washington and 2) people wouldn’t be railing against female exclusion?? No one cares because no one has been drafted in 40 years. If you (or others) want women to sign up for the draft or abolish the draft- start a campaign to do so. Most people see it as a non-issue because again: no one has been drafted in 40 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:05 PM
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You are wrong in your argument because, effectively, men have the same lack of responsibility in this area. The same amount of men are being drafted as women: 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:48 PM
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Be the change you wish to see in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:47 PM
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You are conveniently conflating signing up for selective service and actually being drafted/serving. Those are not the same things; much like you being afraid of going to Iraq is not the same as going to Iraq. Regardless, the draft (or at least female exclusion) is objected to by feminists so you have no ground to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:11 PM
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No. She is correctly identifying the responsibility that you claim is required by men is not actually required now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 04:38 PM
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Link me the chart then pls. What type goes best with most normies? Most redditors?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 12:10 PM
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I assure most people know the value I bring to the PPD community. Stay in your lane and don’t give me relationship advice. I win. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 12:09 PM
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Why would I, a happily married woman, give credence to the methods of, often unhappy, single men? My methods have resulted in success for me. I do not need to to learn about the methods that have resulted in failure for the women you pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:47 PM
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I really do not care how your plates allow themselves to be treated but thanks for the FR.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:37 AM
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🔥🔥🔥 And so we come full circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:23 AM
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That’s why I invited you tell a girl you’re screwing. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:12 AM
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What? Who cares if he treats her “as a friend”? My point is that you’ll be hard pressed to find a woman who will reply “oh yeah, sure okay” if you tell her you value your time more than hers and therefore the only equal exchange for your time is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:04 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:00 AM
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Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 01:27 AM
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🔥🔥🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 01:26 AM
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The OP’s premise is that viewing a relationship as [men’s time] in exchange for [women’s sex] is unattractive to women. Figgy goes on to say this in the comments: A woman who is attracted to a man will see sex as exchange for sex. As in, sexual pleasure for sexual pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:40 PM
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Great. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:13 PM
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Yeah try telling that to a girl you’re screwing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:10 PM
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The whole premise is about women’s inner thoughts you cannot gather this based on their conduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:09 PM
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And I again question why you think you’re an expert on the inner lives of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:03 PM
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That’s the whole point. If he doesn’t value her time he doesn’t care for her company or love her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:02 PM
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The whole premise is about women’s inward thoughts- women do not want to be solely or primarily valued for their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:01 PM
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So your first point is “women want to be in relationships with attractive men”- I do not disagree. Second point is entirely based upon inward thoughts. I disagree and question why you think your opinion has any bearing on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:19 PM
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It proves he sees Jim’s time as appropriate payment for his time. This proves nothing about how he values my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 09:23 PM
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I am not saying they are at odds. I am saying they're wrong and attempting to nail down your claims. I think I am clear so let's examine both claims. Women "don't want to be valued by unattractive men." Incorrect. Women, like most humans, want to be valued for their time and what they perceive to be their talents. This is true regardless of the attractiveness of the people they are interacting with. This does not mean they welcome the sexual attention of unattractive men it means they welcome re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 09:17 PM
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The quote above seems to be saying that women will be fine with being valued for their sexuality (primarily or solely) by an attractive man. I disagreed and still do. Now you’re saying women want to be valued for anything by an attractive man and don’t want to be valued by unattractive men? Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 09:00 PM
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Once again - her reaction to the "transactional" nature of this entire thing depends on her level of attraction to the man who is the subject of the transaction. Then you no longer believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:46 PM
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Where is someone saying there are “types of time”? Do you agree a man’s attractiveness has nothing to do with how a woman wants to be valued?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:43 PM
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I don’t see what the timeline has to do with this. The post is about seeing sex as the currency women use in relationships while men use time. Are you saying that the OP is correct and husbands and wives are exchanging time and not men exchanging time for women offering sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:37 PM
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I do not want to be solely or primarily valued for sexual attractiveness by any man certainly not one that I value highly. Sexual attractiveness is fleeting and hardly the basis of the life long marriages I see my 90 year old elders enjoying. Is sexual attraction fun and lovely? Sure. But it’s shallow and temporary and tantamount to building a marriage on sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:21 PM
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Once again - her reaction to the "transactional" nature of this entire thing depends on her level of attraction to the man who is the subject of the transaction. This doesn’t make any sense. I do not want to be valued for one thing, least of all this very base thing. This has 0 to do with the attractiveness of the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:15 PM
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If a man does not consider my time as appropriate "payment" for his time, he doesn't care for my company very much and probably doesn't love me This is very, very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 07:18 PM
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My BIL. He’s been dating my sister since I was 7 and they used to take me on their dates as a chaperone so he’s more like a brother than a BIL. He is incredibly hard working, gregarious and kind. He doesn’t believe in “strangers” and can find something to laugh about in any pickle. He is a fierce protector and provider for his family but he views my sister as an equal (they did biblical headship model but have softened to a more egalitarian model now). Their relationship has been a huge guiding …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:12 PM
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So, assuming decent looks, "girl game" is only required when one wants to lock down high-value men with options? Nah, not just “high value” but any dude with options. What are the most effective tactics/strategies? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4spbsx/q4ladies_what_are_your_best_girl_game_tips/d5bd6sq/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:30 AM
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Well that would move the relationship to the category of “man with other romantic prospects” 😉🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:26 AM
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Your categories are off. Most women do not need game to have casual sex. They also will not need “game” to secure a relationship with a man who has no other romantic prospects. “Girl game” is about securing a relationship with a man who has the option of other, lower effort sexual or romantic relationships with women. A woman does this by presenting herself as more enticing than the other, lower effort options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:56 AM
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For example, if you love your partner, but don't always have sexual relations on his terms, what is your core motivation... what are you trying to pull? My husband would be really upset if he realized I was doing things I wasn’t comfortable with or excited about. Neither of us see sex as something we’re doing on the other’s terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 01:43 AM
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Does your lady friend know about your previous “incel” status? Have you discussed any of the theories from PPD/RP? What does she think of it all?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 08:19 AM
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Oh I know. I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 08:15 AM
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You’d know if you had common since
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 07:54 AM
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Also- “its” is possessive. Perhaps you meant “it’s”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 07:47 AM
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It’s a low effort post and he seems to be unaware of the issues with it. Are you being forced to read this exchange?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 07:45 AM
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Do you see that your post has “common since” three times and you never use “common sense”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 07:38 AM
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The body of your post?? But my whole view today, is just have some common since. . I just have common since about how humans, both male and female, work. Is English your second language?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 07:34 AM
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Since vs sense...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 07:28 AM
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Oh “Hon” is used commonly by my family/in the place I was raised. I used it here though as a reference to him throwing it at electracute.🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:11 PM
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He says he did....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:07 PM
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cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:06 PM
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Then report it. I am not a mod. I didn’t remove his comment. I was making a reference to his tone below.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:02 PM
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Hypereal already posted the stats. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 02:58 PM
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I called him “Hon” as a reference to him doing it to Electracute. Good lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 02:57 PM
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Yup! You guys are absolutely right on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:09 AM
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I think you’re likely right on the older marriages abbreviated timelines still I think the vast majority of people are just having longer courtships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:01 AM
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Yes- they marry at 27 after like 1-2 years engagement + 3-4 years dating. That still means they are pairing off at 21(ish)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 11:52 PM
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Google it. Hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 11:51 PM
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Look at the average age of marriage + average length of dating before engagement + average length of engagement. The math comes out to women pairing off at 22-23. Electra is totally correct when you look at the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 11:38 PM
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The widespread claims that make up/lighting = “lies” or “sorcery” kinda prove you wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:53 PM
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Stock photo! That is what it is!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:25 PM
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I think the second from the right lacks any story or something that would make me remember him. I feel like I can’t see his face. Furthest right has a story but it’s all “nerd” and not in a good way. He needs new glasses and there is literally a computer behind him. Guitar guy doesn’t look bad at all. Furthest left needs to relax his eyes... got the crazy eyes happening! (Edit: or maybe he just needs red eye correction?? Something is OFF)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 07:55 PM
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I think some dudes can look scary and others can look nerdy or creepy (wish there was a better word for this...) and they need to get someone else to help them take and select pics!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 07:37 PM
3

Oh yeah! I actually think that is a documented phenomenon where women like faces they have seen before. I’ll have to look for that. I will also say that when I take pictures of my husband, get him smiling and with the right angles- he looks like himself. People even comment how friendly and happy he looks. Then he’ll send me selfies where he looks CRAZY. 😂 I would have very different reactions to those pics on OKCupid. I wonder if men don’t pick up in the need to look personal and approachable i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:24 PM
6

Even simpler: women do not respond to pictures the way men do. Men take/select significantly worse pictures of themselves than women do. Women rated 80% of pictures below average not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 05:52 PM
3

A unicorn trap. Duh. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:51 PM
14

I know women who party. I also know women who seem unable to resist men who treat them poorly. The latter are what BPers refer to when RPers claim women behave badly. Don’t set bear traps and be shocked when you catch bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:33 PM
1

Are you not American? People say this all the time about smiling at babies...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:28 AM
2

I think if it’s an inside joke between partners- it’s less god awful. But there is a strong correlation between unemployed, people and calling oneself a “king” or “queen.” 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:25 PM
6

You’re using them. Have any good minion memes?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:24 PM
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First of all, the phrase “king in his castle” makes me think anyone who uses it is stupid and probably likes Minion memes. Further, I think you are conflating running a household (day to day activities) and the way that is executed vs the long term goals of the people in the household (higher level plans). In that regard, I find collaboration and leadership where each person excels is most effective but to each their own. (As long as they aren’t calling themselves “kings and queens”...)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:51 PM
1

I flirt all the time with dudes, babies, old ladies- thanks to my southern raised mom! I can’t recall best or worst... If it’s not fun, low pressure banter, I wouldn’t call it “flirting.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 04:53 PM
1

You know- you’re right! It would be totally crazy (like shit scented candle crazy!) for someone like you to be critical of someone like me! And we know you’re not crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 03:59 PM
1

You try so hard and fail and fail and fail to actually get a dig at me. Poor little guy! My husband has never been in bands- I was specifically referencing an archetype of man I knew from college. Also- if you notice- I am talking about men who pair off in their 30’s and don’t spend their young wild years with their wifes- 1) that was to make a point about the absurdity of RPers/RPers adjacent ignoring male aging and 2) not my actual circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:07 PM
2

I have only ever been to night clubs when I have been paid to promote events/shows or been bribed with free booze by promoter friends. Even then, they suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:34 AM
4

I like reading other people’s perspectives. I like debating this stuff with people I’ll never have to meet/deal with in real life. I like writing out my own thoughts as it helps me sort through my opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:21 PM
4

NO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 04:55 PM
3

Is there a reason we are lumping two commenters together who have very different levels of reliability & therefore track records of blues questioning them??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:53 PM
2

I don’t think seeking out casual relationships mean someone becomes unlovable. I think some of RPers described behaviors and the women they are pursuing are why they cannot find love- and they are wrong in beleiving all men experience dating the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:37 PM
2

While I agree with your title, I think you’re defining “solipsistic” in a strange way. You’re assuming that RPers are opting out of love rather than just not receiving it from women. I think the latter is a common reason they go searching for casual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:28 PM
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Women don’t complain about lack of anal. They do complain about him not being “passionate” or “romantic” enough though. It changes nothing about the fact that these men gave their “best” to women in the past and don’t give that to their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:10 PM
3

Really? A sad, bloated 35 year old is better at sex than when he has young and hot and living it up as the biggest thing on his local band scene? You're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:10 PM
1

I am trying to be generous in reading it because what you wrote is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:41 PM
1

You literally just said “sex/romantic love is the one thing they can’t get from non-sexual relationships.” A man is not sacrificing that simply because she outearns him? Is that not what you meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:38 PM
2

But you’re assuming he’s not getting sex in a situation where she out earns him. That’s strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:13 PM
2

I was poking fun- but seriously- why "should"? Do you think men who are in relationships where their wives out earn them even classify which trait they are more motivated by? Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:00 PM
2

Flair checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:51 PM
2

What is this "should" bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:18 PM
5

Apparently. I just hate when people pepper all over a thread claiming no one is answering and then mocking the answers clearly laid out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 03:54 PM
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I also don't know anything about how THEY felt/feel about being with you and how THEY perceived/perceive their sex lives with you. So no answer from any woman would satisfy you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 03:53 PM
5

Dude, she wrote you a long ass explanation of men she was in romantic relationships with- why are are you being so dismissive??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 03:45 PM
3

YUP. They always do this...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 03:21 PM
8

Then maybe you should make an OP where Beta =\= Omega because this one is so painfully off in the definition you’re only going to get snark.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 03:20 PM
8

As others have noted, you’re describing omega men not beta men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 03:19 PM
1

So you are also of the opinion that this is not a Women only phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 02:57 AM
1

Sigh- in what sad, weird vanilla world is deepthroating “wild sex”???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 02:55 AM
2

And my unaltered response is “can you not fathom people code switching based on context?” I haven’t moved a single goal post whereas it doesn’t appear you even have goal posts?? I think we are done here- actually I think we were done when “deepthroating” was defined as “wild sex” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:06 PM
3

I have no hate for bald guys- I married one!- but I can totally see your point especially because shaving your head actually takes a bit of upkeep that men often let slide 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:25 PM
1

I never claimed most women are into wild, rough sex- I claimed that responsible women can code switch in sexual situations. Why are you continually misrepresenting what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:24 PM
5

Oh man, my sister’s church recently went through this crazy upheaval when the super hip “I was a wild kid too!” pastor ended up being in a decades long affair with one of the congregation... EEK!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 09:15 PM
1

it's highly unlikely a girl who dresses nerd-like, conservatively and is a software engineer is going to become a full blown super small mini skirt party girl after work. But that wasn’t at all what was being discussed. The question is whether a responsible woman would be open to enthusiastic sex/ “wild stuff in bed.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 09:09 PM
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I don’t think I am arguing in bad faith. I legitimately see the AFBB play out far more in men than in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 09:07 PM
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Marriage and kids starts looking a lot better when the alternative is being the old, gross guy at the bar. You’re over romanticizing these guys’ motivations. Further looking at the stats most people put on weight in their 30’s- that dries up the pools they are swimming in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 07:29 PM
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Again: you’re missing that these men are doing exactly what RP accuses women of doing in AFBB. You already have a term for it, it’s just reversed genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 07:22 PM
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?? Except this has nothing to do with the women (whether they are virgins or sluts) and everything to do with men giving their “best” years to random women and pairing off with a “steady” woman once they are no longer hot enough to fuck a new Stacie every weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 07:17 PM
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I have seen it far more in men than in women- cute boys who spent their “best” years chasing tail, getting drunk and screwing crazies. Then get podgey and then marry a nice admin assistant who helps them get a “grown up” job and settle down. The only woman I can think of who did the “sleep around and settle” thing still married a jerk who keeps her jumping through hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 06:57 PM
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It was an example of how people act differently in different circumstances. Someone can be very dedicated and “together” at work and carefree on their days off. A woman who is “responsible” in other circumstances can still have enthusiastic sex. I am confused by what appeared to be a claim that people are not dynamic and act the same 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 06:36 PM
2

Yup. I loooooved my HS bf and enjoyed all the things we did (or so I thought) and I had fun with some dudes but looking back he was very narrow minded and insisted we do things in a very specific way every time. I am so glad I found a hippy who is like “let’s have an adventure together!”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 06:31 PM
1

But haven’t you stated before that anything beyond second base counts on you n-count? That a girl who has given blowjobs isn’t a virgin? You expect women to just look at a guy and know that they will have a good, lasting sex life with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 06:26 PM
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You cannot fathom the idea that people can (and do) code switch? I am a very different person in business than I am in my personal life. It’s literally the cliche of “work hard, play hard.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:50 PM
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In all honesty, I was playing fast and loose with "the wall" definition. I was looking at women my age (33) who want kids. Timeline wise they are all a bit man crazy because they are realizing, even if they meet the right guy tomorrow, the standard timelines (1-2 years dating + 1 year engagement) is going to end with them older than they want to be at first baby. They'd be happy to date late 20's-early 30's guys but those dudes understand the timelines too and are dating at least a few years you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:00 AM
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None. I will help some of them with hair/makeup/outfits for tinder pics but that's as far as I will usually go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:34 PM
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Things I am not brave enough to say to my single gf's IRL: If your male equivalent hit on you, would you date him? No? You wouldn't date an unemployed, pudgy dude who doesn't do "man things"?? Then why would a man date you? Who are you competing with? That guy you want to date, what was his last gf like? Are you comparable to her? Who are women like you dating? Are you rejecting men like that? What do you actually want? Not "what looks good on instagram?" Not "what does everyone say you should w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:27 PM
2

Aw! Thank you!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 05:35 PM
1

Unmarried men lecturing married women about marriage is my favorite part of PPD!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 05:27 AM
4

Some women find "bad" alpha traits attractive, but it's a minority. Most women find "good" alpha and beta traits attractive. Very few women find "bad" beta traits attractive. Well put!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 12:15 AM
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Alpha and beta are traits. Some are "good" and some are "bad." Good alpha= tall, muscular or just big, stoic, confident. Bad alpha= erratic, low FTO, violent. Good beta= reliable, kind, considerate. Bad beta= supplicating, passive, boring. High betas have good beta traits and enough good alpha traits to keep a woman's sexual interests. These men are husband material. 😍 I have been happily married to a high beta for 6 years, together 12- romantic endurance is a high beta specialty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 12:00 AM
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Perfectly put! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:30 PM
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Mutual compromise is a tactic within a successful marriage. Raising a family is literally about creating and fostering the next generation of the community. Nothing you're saying is at odds with the idea that marriage is about fostering something beyond the two spouses inside of the union.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:25 PM
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Things my mom taught me: 1) Boys are after "one thing." She also told me that teenage boys are selfish, and therefore bad at sex and worse at respecting my privacy, so I should wait until I was older to have sex. It would actually feel good with a generous partner and I would be less likely to get heart broken. 2) Anyone who told me or made me think sex was all I had to offer was just trying to get sex and was also blatantly incorrect. 3) Marriage is about family and community. Your marriage is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 07:00 PM
1

The girls your age are all single?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:49 AM
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Did any of your gf's from college or church get engaged or married? What do those girls have in common? How do they differ from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:12 AM
2

How old are you? Do you currently attend a church? Are you college?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 10:14 PM
2

Sounds like poor planning to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 04:53 PM
2

Yes Groovy, "Nazis" are a part of all good analogies, are never a cliche and are sooooo applicable to this context. Go back to the thing you're mildly good at: telling incels to do drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 04:17 PM
2

You bring up Nazi's out of nowhere... I do not consider you an authority on arguments, solid otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 01:43 AM
1

No. You're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 12:38 AM
2

You're doing a poor job of making a bad point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 12:24 AM
2

1) Answer the question. When is the quote from? What was the historical context? 2) LOL THOSE CRAZY LEFTISTS CALLING PEOPLE CARRYING SWASTIKAS "NAZIS"!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 03:11 PM
2

It's taught in historical context. The majority of feminists aren't aligned with it. What year is your quote from???
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 06:39 AM
2

Nah, you're trying to hamster a definition that's not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 03:19 AM
2

That is not what Madonna/whore complex means.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 10:38 PM
3

Huh? Hump a cactus, man. I give 0 fucks. (I'm not using "weird" as a stand in for "bad" just "not common." Again: my point is most people aren't in the super duper weird sex world and if they are they are not skittish about other people in that world too...)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 09:09 PM
2

Do you think the Madonna/Whore complex is a model??????
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 08:07 PM
2

I am not arguing no one does weird sex stuff. I am claiming the weirder it is the fewer people are doing it AND weird sex having people are likely not pearl clutching about their partners also having weird sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 04:19 PM
2

Yup. Totally poor people who live in chic apartments, have sex with 100 boys and then do poetry slams about it 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 04:14 PM
2

I think you're whittling this down beyond Madonna vs Whore to just fantasy vs reality. Would I watch a porn where two dudes bone? Sure. Have done, will again. Would I want to be in a 3some or even wanna be in the same room? Nah probabaly not. I would guess most dudes who watch horse porn wouldn't attend a live show let alone befriend the girl let alone marry her. I really don't think the activities we would actually engage in are as polarizing as you're making them out to be. Madonna vs Whore, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 03:11 PM
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OOoh!! PICK ME!! They are my class! We were raised by accountants and VP's and small business owners. We had our loving parents pack all our things up in a Uhaul to follow our dreams to the big city where they paid our first and last month's rent. Then we had weird outside sex with vagrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 03:05 PM
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You may think that it is oh so empowering for women to be prostitutes, Who are you talking to? I am totally confused about the views you are projecting onto me. Atlas is making a good point below about the type of "whore"-y behavior that happens in MC/UMC circles. It's not literally being a sex worker vs being CTO.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 03:00 PM
3

What? Are you trying to say something about class or what is happening here??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 02:43 PM
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You could just date dudes who see women as people instead of archetypes...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 02:20 PM
3

Yes, Groovy. Feminism has had waves so this quote from a second wave feminist is no longer applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 02:00 PM
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Of course not everyone wants a life revolving around homemaking but many people (some women) DO. Reminder that feminism is about freedom of choice and that it's pretty counterproductive to shit on other women's freely chosen paths. The fact that anyone views these activities with an air of dismissal is a product of sexism- so maybe take a look at that??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 08:39 PM
3

ENFP tears for not getting ANY attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 01:39 AM
2

"husband"- YASSSS!!! Congrats!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 05:17 PM
1

Talk about ruining Christmas...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 11:41 PM
2

I wish you were better at stalking actually. It's spookier if you get the details right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 11:00 PM
2

Don't you have a hair doll you should be sniffing deeply somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 10:55 PM
3

Look at the OP. The whole point of the thread is to edit your replies to make each other look dumb. JFC you're so stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 10:05 PM
2

No and the fact that you think I meant that is an indication of your character. SHAME.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:36 PM
6

He is all of us. 😥
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:34 PM
2

Are you stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:36 PM
2

He's going to take this as a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:44 PM
6

IT'S KEAYALEAYH YOU IGNORANT BICH.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 08:15 PM
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iT's 2 LaTe NoW... ☹️ hE iS gOnE 5eVeR. gIvE uP. (P.S. wUt 7-11?!?! aXiNg 4 a FrIeNd.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 08:04 PM
3

Whoa whoa whoa. Can you explain more clearly and slowly for my feeeemale brain to process?!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 02:43 PM
4

Yes but like skinny jeans small, you know??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 02:42 PM
9

I don't know why anyone hasn't come to white knight for me yet. This is highly irregular.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 08:31 AM
11

You're such a weird little dude. You seem to take this pretty seriously even during purge week! It's like watching a dog eat peanut butter. So determined!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 06:00 AM
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BRB seeing if I can make lingerie out of mason jars.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:55 AM
6

I unblocked everyone for purge week!! ☄️💥🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:53 AM
5

I know tattoos are bad but should I get this tattooed in bubble letters on my arm!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:48 AM
5

OMG DO YOU THINK I SHOULD AIM FOR 6LBS?!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:47 AM
4

I blocked you for a while actually! It was lovely! I think you're getting your wall scribbling confused cuz my dad is awesome?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:47 AM
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OMG I CARE SO MUCH WHAT A MENTALLY ILL REDDITOR WHO RECOMMENDS SHIT SCENTED CANDLES THINKS OF ME!!! NOOOO HOW WILL I LIVE WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL?!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:36 AM
4

Awww! I would say the same to you but I know all other women are evil, evil butthole misers. So we must part as non friends. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:23 AM
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You're not very interesting and that's why no one likes you. Happy purge!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:19 AM
6

Good question! My grandma taught me that if I brushed my hair 1000x per night, ate less than 800 calories a day and believed in myself my man enough, my vanilla starfish would eventually morph into an entrance only. It worked!! My noot noot is ready!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:17 AM
7

Are you a complete fucking bitch? Because that might explain the women you attract...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 03:44 AM
6

I love when everyone hates the people I hate 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 12:01 AM
8

Tell me how much money you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 10:09 PM
2

Wealthy but unattractive. I was born as such and wouldn't trade it for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:03 AM
2

Yes, it can indicate values but a fair portion of your OP was about how the couple looked to outsiders and that's what I was addressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 11:28 PM
4

It just seems so shallow- even beyond the universal "am I attracted to him?" This is why everyone has HPV and no savings!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 08:45 PM
1

Haha- yeah insulting a SO is a weird way to garner favor 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 08:43 PM
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I can't imagine caring what strangers think of how we look as a couple. I think our height difference is funny and the rest I give 0 fucks about...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:59 PM
2

You cleaned?! I sent you a message on IRC- my phone died and as it was charging, Husband come home! Hope the house look so good you get addicted to cleaning!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 04:35 AM
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I miscarried in the audience bathroom at a big comedy venue where I was performing. I wanted to keep working at the space and was not all that close (yet) to the cast of my show so I just kept quiet about things. My cousin had just died young and unexpectedly and my mom was with her sister. I hadn't told her about the issues I was having. My doctors knew there were issues (improper hormonal levels, ultrasound wasn't showing fetal development etc) but they just kept saying things would either 1) …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:41 PM
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If you didn't want to hear tales of BB why did you click on this thread? I'm no Lewis fan girl but you're out of line.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:13 PM
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You're going to a place where people aggregate this content and saying any activity there is proof this behavior is wide spread... that's asinine. Further, those subs have like 100k readers. /r/GoneWild has 1M+... it's a fetish but it's not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 05:58 PM
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"I've noticed, that lately, women have sex with plumbers. He shows up while she's in the shower and says he has to go 'get his tools' and then she blows him. What does that tell us about the current state?" 🙄 (There's no automod... so must shitpost in the open!)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 02:01 PM
3

😨😱😭
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 09:34 PM
5

Be grateful he can spell "you."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 07:08 PM
6

I sought trust, emotional care and protection- someone who treated me being physical available to them with care and consideration. I no longer get that. If you didn't know he gave you HPV, then wouldn't things carry on the same, and thus the relationship didn't change? Until my next Pap smear when I am diagnosed or when precancerous cells grow on my cervix fucking up my chances of having a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 11:33 PM
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Yes- Using his dick as a syringe to inject me with a virus linked to cancer is a direct change to what I originally saught in the relationship AND CHANGES THE RELATIONSHIP. What the fuck are you talking about??? Good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 11:25 PM
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Aaaannnddd he's admitted he has no idea what he defines as relationship. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 11:06 PM
6

Sigh. Then something that only impacts one member of the relationship, is about the relationship by your definition. This is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 11:04 PM
3

😐 Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 10:54 PM
5

Dare I ask how you define the "essence of a relationship"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 10:50 PM
12

This is the most ridiculous exchange I have had here and that is saying a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 10:30 PM
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How we treat each other is the essence of our relationship. If I did something that directly or indirectly put my husband at risk, that is about our relationship. What are you not understanding about this???
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 10:29 PM
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Me being impacted by his actions. Him making a conscious choice to put me at risk. That is "about the relationship" in every way shape and form.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 10:17 PM
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How is putting me in harm's way NOT about our relationship??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 10:01 PM
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Presumably he wouldn't have caught anything either. Weird angle I didn't expect, but a valid one nonetheless. Though not really about the relationship. BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT. You know what most American adults have? HPV. You know what you can get from sexual contact, even using condoms? HPV. You know what I do not have? HPFUCKINGV. If he had the audacity to expose me to disease after I have only ever had sex with him, that has everything to do with our relationship. He is putting me in harm…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 09:41 PM
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Because we have discussed it and he knows I am fine with it. Just as sex with someone besides your partner in an open relationship is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 08:32 PM
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gave all his love and attention to you, was attentive towards all your emotional needs etc but decided to cheated on you with another woman These things do not jive together. He put our relationship below an encounter with this other woman AND, if he doesn't tell me immediately and I continue having unprotected sex with him, he is putting my health at risk. I would be murderous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 06:55 PM
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NP! Disclosure - I have nothing to gain in any way for reccomending SeekingArrangement, this is not an ad. This is my honest experience. This is what reads as ad to me. (Then the "hot, kinky 18 yo willing to 3some" 🙄 ESPECIALLY at the price point he's claiming.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 06:38 PM
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obesity was not a factor This is the biggest thing IMO. In old family photos, my mom and her sisters look like freaking instagram models in their short shorts and rompers even after having 3+ kids. My dad and uncles never lifted a weight in their lives but the culture of working construction for dad's company before you got to take over a management position seemed to give them a certain build even after they took on desk jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 06:13 PM
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This... this is an ad. A creative one but an ad none the less. That said- I would be incredibly suspicious of a woman's interest in her husband if she was comfortable with this arrangement. But what consenting adults do with other consenting adults is hardly my business. Per your question on "prostitutes" vs "sugar babies"- my understanding from sex workers I know is that a sugar baby arrangement is specifically set up to involve a relationship of some sort. Sex is often part of the equation but…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 04:58 PM
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I dunno- belonging to someone isn't the same as them owning you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 03:58 PM
1

I like non-conventional love stories where two misfits find each other. This is usually a secondary couple in a narrative like Marla Hooch and Nelson or Beatrice and Benedick. Secretary (while not sweet) also has this vibe of "these two weirdos better make it work because no one else will have them or make them happy!" The stakes are higher and I root for these couples more. I also love the first 5 minutes of Up but who doesn't??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:11 PM
1

Oh gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:51 AM
1

What? I am saying Christian Grey is a bad dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 11:55 PM
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Why are you stuck in this weird black and white thinking? A dominant dude can be good in bed and give you many orgasms and not be billy beta giving oral... this fucking sub sometimes, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 11:06 PM
3

Wtf is a shitty orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 11:04 PM
7

So? Are "perfect fantasies" usually classified as whatever is "good by national standards"? This terrible series gets trotted out as something women younger than 40 like and it's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 10:35 PM
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The main female character has one orgasm per sexual encounter. ONE. That is not a perfect female fantasy. That is "I AM FOURTY AND WEAR T SHIRTS THAT SAY 'You don't have to be crazy to work here but it helps' WITH MY SIZE 16 KMART JEANS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT A GSPOT IS. ALSO HERE'S A MINION MEME" fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 10:07 PM
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Nonsense. It's not that he's dominant- it's that he's a BAD DOMINANT.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 09:32 PM
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Women absolutely contribute to toxic masculinity. The worst examples of this are women who ignore their sons' physical and/or emotional pain. I become really frustrated when women speak distainfully about uncircumcised men which I think is still a huge reason we regularly mutilate baby boys ("girls will think it's gross!!"). That said, I think that someone not being attracted to a man isn't him being oppressed... and this is a strawman: which again goes against the feminist narrative that "looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 07:52 PM
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I am really sorry that happened. The LGBT folks I know take that type of thing very seriously because homosexuals were classified with pedofiles so much in the past. There is a very strong "this had better be a file with the police level accusation of child abuse or you need to NOT" attitude toward those type of accusations. I hope you find a place to help LGBTQ kids- it's important work and if you feel called to it, I am sure you'll be a celebrated asset!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 01:14 AM
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Honestly- I bet most people will think you're closeted or asexual? It will raise far more eyebrows by dating lots of people (men or women) than being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 09:41 PM
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I wonder if people ever look at my husband's car or ridiculous toys or our travels and think he's the one paying for it all... 😂💸
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 04:39 PM
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I mean... I have a relatively high sex drive but was aware of how seriously I would take my first so I waited. I felt good about my first time with my husband (who was just my bf at the time). Part of it was a religious upbringing but I got very lucky in that I was taught sex was magical and beautiful and spiritual with the right person. They never said it was dirty or wrong with the wrong person just a missed opportunity. All that said, I don't think having a low n-count is really that big an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 04:24 PM
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While you make a valid point about innocent until proven guilty, on PPD the most common objection is not that nuanced it's that enthusiastic consent seems robotic, has to be explicitly verbal or that you're playing a completely non-sexy game of Simon Says. That's not a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 03:30 PM
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Oh I thought you were saying they were equally rare. My mistake!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:07 AM
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I don't think doofy, sweet, cute is all that rare!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 12:16 AM
1

Shit man this is an old ass thread!! What are you doing here?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 11:11 PM
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Well, the men I am talking about will have casual sex if offered but they aren't seeking it out. But, because sex is offered in and out of relationships, yeah, they didn't need to learn the covert stuff. They probably prefer LTR's because while sex does happen when he's single it happens a lot more (and with more enthusiasm and variety) in a relationships and maybe they are virtue signaling but I have heard them speak higher of sex with "a connection." Again: this is just an archetype I've notic…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 10:57 PM
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Pretty accurate! I would say they usually have fine social skills but below average romance skills. They are great friends but aren't going to shift from "hey buddy!" to "hey baby" easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 10:06 PM
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Shhhh...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 07:51 PM
1

Irish. And southern Irish at that... we drink a lot. Also pills. So many pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 07:49 PM
1

Fruit juice? My aunts do straight vodka. Maybe some Diet Sprite or club soda.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 07:42 PM
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If 'all men' are taught abuse is evil and wrong and the consequences are immediate, why are there so many male abusers? This is a very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 07:39 PM
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I also think there's a cultural divide here: I'll call the police if there is a break in or issue with a stranger. MY people? No police. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 07:05 PM
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If you're Catholic and not a WASP- you keep it quiet publically but let it slip to your mom who tells your dad who tells your uncles and brothers and cousins and then the loser gets a visit. The woman is still judged for picking poorly though... and police are OUT OF THE QUESTION.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 06:55 PM
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One time I was at a party at a good friend's house- he was dating my roommate and sorority sister. We often threw parties at his massive house (our campus sorority houses were dry) this night was one of those nights. I had a crush on some guy in a show I was in and was pining for him. I was NOT on the scene for a make out or hook up- I was in a sweatshirt and jeans and ponytail just blowing off steam with friends. The house was enormous- 5 dudes lived there and I was friends of varying degrees w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 06:31 PM
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Aw- hey now, you're not the only dude who didn't pick up what I was putting down! I was just amused the women were like "AW YEAH" and the men didn't know/couldn't picture what we were all excited about!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 04:15 PM
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There's a happy medium between high n-count and virgin. The type of guy I'm describing doesn't pick up on IOI's so they likely had girls hit on them and aren't virgins. They are never going to notice covert flirting which is necessary for cheating to occur. It's funny the women here seem to know exactly what I am describing and the men seem confused by it...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 01:30 PM
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I'm happily married to a doof so... 💁🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 10:25 AM
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Who said anything about low n-count?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 10:23 AM
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1) I am teasing you. 2) Doing something less than 10 times doesn't sound like "not your thing"...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 09:49 PM
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Strippers? Was it strippers?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 06:55 PM
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Sigh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 06:01 PM
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I want someone attractive enough to get female attention and doofy enough not to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 05:31 PM
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Usually they are tied to actual data... 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 12:17 AM
2

😂☠️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 12:13 AM
3

That's not how graphs work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 11:42 PM
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Yeah- my marriage gets called red all. the. time. Shit- people were calling the OBAMA'S a red pill marriage the other week.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 07:05 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 05:55 AM
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No I think he's saying: No one forces women into stripping, porn or prostitution unless you live in some third world shithole somewhere and who gives s shit about those shitholes anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:43 AM
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Before I read about him: he's cute! Edit: Annnnnddd... he's effing crazy. Still cute but good lord!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 11:51 PM
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Then you fuck him 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 11:47 PM
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No. He is gross- physically and politically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 11:42 PM
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Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:34 PM
5

Yup- this is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 04:32 PM
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This is an odd claim... why would I hate women I see being victimized? If anything, I care about their plight because I don't feel threatened by them or indemnify with their status- I recognize my advantage and pity them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 04:11 PM
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I have sympathy for men who cannot get sex and visit sex workers. I just don't want to have sex or associate with them. Two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 04:03 PM
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Watch the documentary Very Young Girls... you're completely off base on the idea that no Western women are are forced or coerced into prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 04:00 PM
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At this point, they're not even building straw men- they're like straw dogs or even aliens...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 03:11 PM
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You're so far off, it'd be funny if it weren't so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 03:08 PM
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Please show me where I have said anything like "good people should kill all bad people." Your strawmanning is ridiculous. (Also, Jake Paul is a dumpster fire.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 02:51 PM
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That's one way to look at it. I have to fall back on the cheesy quote "the opposite of war isn't peace, it's creation." So while there is always war and destruction, there is also birth and collaboration and healing. Just depends on where you put your focus...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 05:16 AM
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I HATE the interfaces of those click bait sites... 🙄 I hate when people talk about their spouses with such dismissiveness. Everyone settles in some way but I also find myself heart eyes, sighing over things I never even knew I wanted when my husband does them. I think these women are likely ungrateful and ungenerous more so than their husbands being less than awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 11:59 PM
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Well YOU might not have thought it but it seems to be a stereotype thrown around by RPers and RPW (mostly on their sub).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 03:20 PM
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Back before the dress awakening, Husband used to be like "there is a pile of pants by the door. Can you at least get to the bedroom before you shed your work clothes?!" Fuck pants!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 04:35 AM
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I run a little cold too but I never feel as cozy in pants as a sweater dress, scarf and boots and tall socks- and I survived 10 Midwest winters 😂 I think maybe I buy cheap pants so I just think they are COLD!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 04:33 AM
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wears dresses almost daily When I became an adult and realized dresses were 1000x more comfy than jeans and they twirl AND I got credit for dressing up- there was just no going back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 11:45 PM
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I am sweet, even maternal, in person. I love hosting dinner parties and if you mention being hungry in my house, even if we are just supposed to be hosting for drinks: I WILL FEED YOU. I own aprons and nothing makes me smile like a skirt or dress with POCKETS. I pride myself on the comfort and care of my home and put lipstick on before husband gets home from work. I have never referred to myself as a "strong independent woman" or asked "where have all the good men gone?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 11:43 PM
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Exactly. Also I know couples where one is a "collector" and has a bad habit of amassing things that they are TOTALLY going to install or sell someday. Their spouse is inevitably like "NO MORE UNTIL YOU HAVE A YARD SALE FOR ALL YOUR PREVIOUS 'GREAT DEALS'!!!" My neighbor just purged while his wife was in London and kept saying "hahha! She is gonna be so pissed but look at all this shelf space!" If she brought home a dishwasher, he'd go ballistic and if he brought one home they'd have no where to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:18 PM
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But there is a world of difference between sending a text/making a call and saying, "hey I don't think we have anything tonight- was gonna go out for beers with work peeps. Lemme know if we have plans though!" (which is normal and absolutely a message I would send to my husband) and "bitchy wives that control every second of their non working hours"... you seem to be mixing up the two and assigning malice to someone checking in with their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:08 PM
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Honestly, I am just putting myself in his shoes. I wouldn't buy (or even take for free) a massive appliance that I would have to haul around and store without consulting my husband. It's a hassle and I'd talk to him first OR I'd use him as an excuse to get out of buying something I didn't want to buy...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:58 PM
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I am not pointing to myself as a unicorn. I am saying it's illogical to claim only hot jerks can get a beer after work before returning to their SO at home because a woman would have to be pretty pathetic to be incapable of entertaining herself for a few hours. Again, I think there are not these polar extremes you're claiming of battered beta rushing home harpy wife and hot alpha meandering in whenever to Donna Reed/porn star hybrid because she knows he can get another woman in 2 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:49 PM
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Yeah, this feels like an origins story of a hoarder...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:43 PM
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The only men that dont seem to care are those with enough options to replace said SO. I think this is unhelpful hyperbole. I don't think a man has to know he can get another woman/wife easily to go have a drink after work. I also don't think most women care all that much. Unless we have plans, I am not impacted by him coming home at 9 vs 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:42 PM
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Yeah this is my experience too... Sometimes he just wants to be home drinking scotch and shooting zombies!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:29 PM
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I consider my husband and he considers me. We discussed it at length and made sure my company could make a transfer work when he took a job across the country. We also check in on large purchases, travel etc. Any other set up would be scary as hell to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:40 PM
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The dopest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:02 AM
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Indifferent. I might in passing think they have a hormonal issue but as long as we aren't dating or married I don't care about your libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:55 AM
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Of course behaviors are within their control and of course we (feminists) should reward what we perceive to be positive behaviors. That is exactly what is happening when women select masculine looking men with liberal view and emotional availability. You're claiming these men are "faking" it without any basis for the claim. Maybe these men believe emotional availability and liberal views are advantageous and correct? If not, they could just be conservative- you claim there is space for them in 9…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:52 AM
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People who believe that X is morally correct and do not screen for similar beliefs before bonding with another person should examine why they would spend time with someone they are at moral odds with. Maybe this is a rare stance- if so, that's fucking sad. I don't think that the case but I can't speak to your experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:48 AM
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So yeah- depends on how liberal I guess. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:39 PM
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Then I question their morals and integrity. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:34 PM
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And I am saying you cannot always control physicality but you can control behaviors and holding people accountable for what they can control is not at all hypocritical. I married a 6'4" bearded Viking who cried like 6x this weekend about Nazis and ended up donating a lot of money to the NAACP. So yeah, turns out I can be attracted to the physicality and know without a doubt that the behaviors can be rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:32 PM
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If they happily associate with and have sex with conservatives, I don't consider them all that liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:23 PM
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Of course you can oppose behaviors and not physicality even if they are (sometimes) linked. Claiming otherwise is flat bizarre. I don't even know what you're claiming here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:22 PM
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Or, my original claim, "depends on how liberal you are" is the right answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:17 PM
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Then, as you are a non-liberal, I don't consider you an expert. Agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:12 PM
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I am not ignoring it, I am saying whether or not testosterone/the physicality is linked to the behaviors doesn't matter. The behaviors are what's being opposed not the physicality. Further, there are giant hairy men who are open with their emotions- these things are not inherently mutually exclusive. You do not have to pick one or the other which is what makes this archetype attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:10 PM
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I fear this is devolving into a "who's more liberal?" pissing contest. I was merely saying some people have a baseline requirement of "You must not think my friends should have their civil rights legislated against to ride this ride." I know there are people more liberal than me that would never work in my line of business- they have standards I do not. It's not a value judgement just a threshold for behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:05 PM
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the problem is that the muscular, bearded, intimidating stature is exactly what feeds into the traits of masculinity that feminism is apparently against. Disagree. I don't think feminists look at physical stature and oppose it. We look at behaviors and oppose them. Well, that's something different from being 'soft-hearted and trapped in masculinity' Right- because I didn't say "trapped," I said "trappings." Meaning, "the outward signs, features, or objects associated with a particular situation,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:59 PM
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I chose to live in a liberal city, surrounded by liberal people because of how liberal I am. My politics are the cause of my circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:49 PM
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As I said, depends on how liberal you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:27 PM
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Feminism/feminists are opposed to expectations of masculinity that hurt men or those around them. What do you think the dangers are of being a "lumberjack hipster." Every guy is a soft-hearted guy wrapped in the trappings of masculinity. I disagree. Not every man presents as very masculine but is emotionally open and available. I know very few "nu-males" in real life -- and they are only tagged that because they chose emotional expression at the wrong time, not because they have zero notion of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:24 PM
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My girlfriends rarely have ONS but we're literally surrounded by gay men and artists and writers with a political focus. It comes up early and often.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:12 PM
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I don't see feminists saying "hyper-masculinity" is unattractive. I see them claiming machismo is unattractive and that varying levels of masculinity are still attractive to many women. I for one don't want a literal lumberjack or their values. "Lumberjack hipster" is just a classification of guys raised on grunge music (already had flannel) who don't even care to shave now. If you think part of the attraction isn't also the soft hearted guy wrapped in the trappings of masculinity- you're missin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:06 PM
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Maybe you do. I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:52 PM
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Except it's not. Men can be capable and outdoorsy without being conservative. You can care about the environment and go back backing in the wilderness. You can be a feminist and still like building things by hand. Conservatives don't have a monopoly on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:52 PM
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Do you think having kids is morally good, neutral, or bad(even evil)? Neutral unless you cannot care for them and then I'd classify it as bad. Are kids an extension of their parents? Always part of their parents, owned by their parents, or in debt to their parents? Are kids a continuation of one's self or are they something sacrificed for at the cost of one's self? Kids are their parents' responsibility and I know my parents sacrificed for me and my siblings. I feel in debt to them. Why should y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:31 PM
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Meh- people my age just have one kid and then they take the kid with them abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 04:17 PM
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They don't want the man to delay sex. It infers he doesn't want her. If he wants her and she or circumstances are the cause of delays- that is appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:53 PM
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Sure but who wants to live there?? 😉 Anyway- I think liberal women are less attracted to conservative men than the same man with liberal values and some might see right politics as a deal breaker. Your first post was unclear on if you meant all women or conservative women being attracted to right wing politics so maybe we are in agreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:47 PM
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Hmmm... depends on how liberal I guess? In my circles being conservative is a pretty big status blow. No one dates a conservative unless they are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:51 AM
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Of course. I am saying that liberal women will find "masculine right wing politics unattractive." Edit: not sure why your last sentence didn't show in my inbox. Weird. The idea that women find masculine right wing politics unattractive is fucking hilarious Assumed you meant women in general not just conservative women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:43 AM
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Well, if their intention is to win him over and not just screw him- that's a stupid tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:41 AM
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I don't care if everyone gets a lumberjack. I care if I get a lumberjack. 1) Apparently not every girl wants a lumberjack- I see plenty of men I am not attracted to in relationships with/having sex with women who I would classify as more attractive than me. 2) apparently some men are still becoming lumberjacks despite the rhetoric so I don't think that's the deciding factor...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:29 AM
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Then they should work on being lumberjack worthy? I know chicks who have dated guys with opposing political beliefs and, especially with social media putting everyone's inner monologue on blast, it's a fucking nightmare. Especially if she was an outspoken liberal and he's vocal about his conservative beliefs, it's like a neon sign signaling how much she settled. Once or twice, I've seen these girls give up on their liberal circles altogether but usually it's awkward for a bit and then they break…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:21 AM
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But who cares? The existence of the bearded lumberjacks means there are hot guys who share our views. I don't care about the not hot ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:08 AM
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Don't you think us dirty liberals would rather be with a masculine liberal guy? (And before you say there's no such thing- the liberal men I know can build their own torch and don't need to grab one at Target so... 😉)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 05:54 AM
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Did you see the dweebs on the alt right side?? They look like their mom brushes their hair and no one has touched their dick. Good luck on turning any group populated with those dudes into a chick magnet....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 05:40 AM
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"Star fuckers" lovely nickname for people who put out for any level of celebrity. 😂 (And no- I have yet to hear about them getting an LTR out of it!!)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 07:32 PM
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Depends on how you define "Chad"- all I know is it is an age old tactic for women to get commitment from men by delaying sex. This isn't relegated to unattractive men- my god, a large portion of female erotica is wrapped around some sort of circumstance that keeps the heroine from giving into her love interest. Delaying sex until he proves himself is part of the female fantasy even when the attraction is already in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 06:11 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 03:34 PM
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Those were two separate thoughts. He's racist. He also does karate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 03:23 PM
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Ah! I wondered why you deleted it! Glad you're feeling better!! Once you feel totally steady- you should think about doing a post on the topic again. It was actually a good kernel of truth in there!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:49 AM
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Disagree. Average men do just fine in the early college, looking for an LTR market of sweet young things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:43 AM
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Ah, yeah artists have a similar mindset-good point. I am glad to hear you have a strong community but I think isolation in old age is a real issue (especially amongst men) in "normal folks". This was a great article that came out just this week on it: http://www.metafilter.com/168779/The-Legion-Lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:15 AM
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Would you classify your social circles as queer/homosexual? My gay/non-binary friends definitely have a more "chosen family" vibe than my straight friends. Many of them volunteer at an elderly care facility specifically for older gay people. I haven't seen anything like that outside the gay community.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 03:58 AM
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I think you have to define "weak men" a little more specifically to have a fruitful argument around this. In my estimation: yes, doormats are weak but so are blustering machismos. Dudes standing outside clubs in sparkly shirts seem weak. My friend's smug, racist "I do karate now!" husband is weak. I guess my personal definition of weakness is someone controlled by outside forces rather than internal ones. Sure women might have sex with these "weak" dudes to varying degrees but does anyone respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 02:01 AM
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Rest assured, if she mentioned cats- I would have included it. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:42 AM
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If you are going to give a public presentation wherein you set yourself and your lifestyle up as better than the norm, a little showmanship is required.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 07:59 PM
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Hmmm... I think some of us were raised to question and buck the limits people tell us we have. I know I was. "They told you you can't? Then do it anyway but you can't just be 'okay' at something they tried to keep you from and you fought for" -my parents being tough. "Did you prepare as best you could? Did you do your best? Did you have fun in the moment? GREAT! This is success" -my parents being gentle. Sure, some people figure it out on their own but some of us do have the advantage of people …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:40 PM
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You are very, very correct. 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:17 PM
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Posted in Automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:06 PM
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TL;DR: single people are statistically as happy as married people despite assumption to the contrary as well as perceived societal bias against them. Yay single people rah rah rah. Woman giggles incessantly at her own comments. Believes that society sells a single narrative that everyone's "happily ever after" is marriage. (Mentions marriage equality because... reasons???) Thinks we need to "share single people's stories." Starts to paint married people as privileged class-granted rights and pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:04 PM
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MUST BE JELLY CUZ JAM DON'T SHAKE
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 07:11 AM
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🍿🍿🍿
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:53 AM
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Grow a beard. Brow ridge is where it's at.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 06:55 PM
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Ha! The thing is- I look really friendly- like I have the opposite of RBF. So if I look scowl-y, I am likely in a really bad mood already!!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 02:46 AM
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Totally. I love that! Funny story: my FIL teases me about how I dress. He's not at all into clothes and I dress like Ms. Frizzle. One time, on a visit, he was giving me a hard time about it all day- I was wearing a green skirt, b&w polka dot top and coral shoes. Four different women came up to me while we were out and gushed at me about how cute my outfit was. He stopped giving me such a hard time after that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 02:11 AM
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It's what I meant to say- just skip the sex and go straight to murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 12:33 AM
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Dudes aside, I chase down women to tell them I like their outfits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 12:26 AM
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Depends on the time of day and neighborhood. If I feel safe and secure, I am friendly and smiley. If a stranger tells me to smile though... my inner succubus emerges. 😡🐲🔥🔥🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 12:23 AM
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I have yet to see a lick of evidence for this "80/20" crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 11:50 PM
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I'd say the CC improved sex for everyone (even non-riders). I saw CC adventures in media/from friends- I just did those activities with my boyfriend/husband rather than ONS or in STR's. Without the demystifying/bragging about those sex acts, I probably wouldn't have know about them let alone felt comfortable trying them. Thanks sluts!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 11:06 PM
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Or you can just offer commitment to a average girl early?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 11:02 PM
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I'll look... As far as "why"- think it might be hopelessness? And a belief baby making is the only legacy they'll ever leave? Which... they're probably not wrong but whether the legacy is positive or negative is up for debate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 08:56 PM
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Doesn't He? Jesus on abortion: ERROR CONTENT NOT FOUND He does address the death penalty though... how many red states oppose "throwing the first stone"???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 06:17 PM
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I wish I could find the study but there was one done on low income girls who were single mothers and had sisters who were not. Shockingly, teenage motherhood had little impact- the poor stayed poor. UMC girls who were teenage mothers recovered and were just as likely to marry and become high earners as their non-teenage mother sisters. It sounds totally backwards to me... I guess it's one of those things where if you're going to get out don't have kid but not having a kid isn't any sort of guara…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 05:58 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 05:28 PM
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I donate monthly to PP. There's no reason someone should have a child before they can support and care for them properly. A grown, single woman who wants to have a baby? Do you- sounds like a nightmare to me but not my life!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:27 PM
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Just because you like it doesn't mean it isn't helpful for others!! I won't tell anyone you're nice!! Secret's safe with me! 🤐
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:20 PM
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Hey- you take time to explain things to internet friends! That is a thing you do for the people!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:40 PM
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You seem like a really sweet couple. Happy for you!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:36 PM
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Oh poor little guy! My nieces stay far away from dog #2. She has them trained 😂 It's pretty common for abused dogs to dislike men, IME, but our little gal prefers them. I want her loooooove me but mostly she thinks I am the sidechick in the house and vastly prefers Husband. What can ya do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:26 PM
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Sooo pretty!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:59 PM
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They totally worm their way into our hearts while being terrors huh?! Garbage dog #2 is so much better than when we got her but she still gets really scared of strangers and is territorial. She hates women and was clearly abused and I am just like, "What trashy B smacked this little dog around to feel better about her shitty life??"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:55 PM
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Hahaha! This is evidence of the state of mind I have been in everytime I watched that movie. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:51 PM
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Second hand dog?? One of our dogs was street dog and she'd already been returned to the shelter once. She's terrible and we LOVE HER. Edit: DOH! RedSchool makes a funny and it goes right over my head!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:42 PM
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This is a good list!! Co-sign! Only our garbage dogs are tiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:40 PM
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paid his rent paid off his credit cards signed leases and loans together made a home with him made him sole beneficiary of my life insurance Missed holidays or events with family to be with him/save money for things to do with him sided with him over other friends PIV sex, eventually without condoms sex in a club bathroom (take that Chad!) run large style changes (getting tattoos, hair cuts, glasses) by him moved across the country for his job cooked and served him & his friends meals been hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:39 PM
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If I could choose where, when and what economic class- female. If that was up to chance- male. I would be terrible at masculinity so Foppish Dandy, HERE I COME!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:30 PM
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Ah gotcha. I think this will remain a mystery for the ages!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 06:07 AM
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Neither of them are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:04 AM
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That... sex feels good?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:04 AM
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I'm not following. A man isn't dominating me if he pays me to submit. He is dominating me if I legitimately want to go where he's taking me and experiencing what he wants me to experience. It actually takes a lot of trust- money can't buy authentic submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 08:55 PM
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When he's not paying me to do things. When I do them for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 08:18 PM
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Sounds like someone is sad because no one cooks them eggs? ☹️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 07:34 PM
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Well, now I am actually confused. Do you think non-runny yolks is a "fuckup" equivalent to six months unemployment and ultimate career failure? I am honestly asking. I used examples of day to day patience and kindness- which, yes, I show my husband. But frankly, I'm not sure why you feel this an appropriate or pertinent line of questioning. Are you claiming strippers show more unconditional care than wives do cuz I got $20 that will prove you wrong! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 07:14 PM
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Are you equating eggs not being the level of runny we both like to 6 months of unemployment and ultimate career failure? (I can only hope the base we've laid would help us survive any hardship. We've been through things before and come through. But I do have to say, if my husband suddenly failed at a career he has been happy in and successful at for 15 years... I think he would have bigger concerns than the quality of sex he gets.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 07:00 PM
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Do you get a dollar for everytime you link to that chart?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 05:48 PM
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1) I want to be treated like a wife. Tell me I am pretty when I am not. Hug me and tell me dinner smells "delicious" after I screw up the second batch of over easy eggs for your burger. Slap my butt in the laundry room. Love me till death. 2) wtf is your deal with strippers??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 05:46 PM
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Dude. Lewis means these things literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 04:15 PM
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There is nothing to be charitable about. It's a specific, wide sweeping claim that all women get what they need. I repeatedly asked for calirfication/confirmation that that absurd claim was what they meant. Again: go talk to them if you wish to add nuance to their hamfisted statement
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 04:06 PM
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That is not what is being claimed upthread. Talk to them about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 03:59 PM
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PLOT TWIST: MissMaude is ignoring you because your stance and claims are emotionally not factually based and therefore facts will not change your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 03:44 PM
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We know what's up. (Someday get on IRC and we can talk makeup. I found the BEST liquid liner and I need other people to share in its perfect application and smudge free wonder!!)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 03:34 PM
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If you look up thread, there are people claiming "women always get what they need"- which is patently false. I give 0 shits who has it easier and that is not what I am arguing with the posters upthread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 03:32 PM
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THEY ALWAYS DO THIS. "Women always get X" when really they mean "Women get X more than men... mostly hot ones. And white ones..."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 02:53 PM
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To be clear: your claim is "no women in modern, western society has ever died of hunger or cold or lack of standard medical care"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 02:52 PM
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So no women in modern, western society has ever died of hunger or cold or lack of standard medical care? (And please don't move goalposts- this isn't about men dying more it's about women dying at all when their needs aren't met-because your claim is that it doesn't happen. Never. At all.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 02:41 PM
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It being "easy" is neither here nor there. I explained further downthread: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6scykw/do_women_expect_too_much_from_men/dlce29q/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 11:55 AM
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Likewise, if you listen to neckbeards and incels and their female equivalents, they'll detail the harshness of the Blue Pill, and how it's so sad to see that nobody will give them a chance to show you that Disney love stories can really happen. What do you mean? Incels and neckbeards are trying to convince you Disney love stories happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 04:47 AM
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I think they're average just a small, small subset of average men. I think the rhetoric attracts the angry ones... it's why I don't buy the "it's not literal!" Or "it's a heuristic!" claims. I think the rage is part of the attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 02:17 AM
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I mean, I can't really argue anything other that what I've witnessed. Which is average people have higher standards than the bottom tier so they have less sex. If your experience differs- good to know!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 11:56 PM
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.e. Having a constant support system in place to help you alleviate your bad feelings and deal with your day-to-day shit. This doesn't mean being someone's priority. That sounds like unhealthy codependency. Being someone's priority means "you are the most important person in my life" not "I have no boundaries or agency. All your problems are my problems and mine to solve even when I am not equipped or trained to do so. Also you have no end of the relationship to keep up." The latter is what the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:52 PM
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Admittedly, this is not based on anything but anecdata. People here often comment about poly piles of traditionally unattractive people. It does seem like the kink/poly scene has plenty of traditionally unattractive, sexually active former band kids. Or my FB feed- the lower class folks are all clearly below average in looks but are constantly getting together/breaking up and popping out kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:15 PM
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My suggestion was to block me because you appear incapable of doing what I do to you: ignoring comments that aren't up in my inbox. But since you lack that self control: blocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:03 PM
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That is not what being someone's priority means... you're adding a lot of unhealthy baggage there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:49 PM
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Spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:20 PM
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I think lashing out at anyone is a sign that someone is hurt in some way. Would you consider passive aggressive women to be "lashing out" in their behavior of putting other people down? Dude, I have no interest in having this exchange with you. There are times when people make poor, emotionally based arugments, and I react with dismissal. If you don't like that, you can easily block me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:06 PM
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There are levels though. Sure, sometimes a therapist is the best route but I don't think there's anything wrong with knowing, caring about and being mindful of your partner's emotional state. My husband gets a cold, I am going to take care of him. Pneumonia? He goes to the doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:00 PM
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I think lashing out at anyone is a sign that someone is hurt in some way. I don't know applying this study to RPers is a fair/accurate translation though... Someone here posted long ago that it seemed like the relationship/sex market was mostly hard for the average. That the top and bottom was fine- hot people screwing hot people and the ugly were screwing ugly people and everyone knows their lane. Then the middle just sort of muck about, knowing they are better than the bottom but rejected by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 03:29 PM
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"This person is personally attacking other users. I had better report him! And the mods agree with me and removed his unecessary comment. GREAT!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:49 PM
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The only masculine thing you know about the man I picked is something the vast amount of men cannot control. You don't know my husband or my standards when I started dating him. I think you're latching onto one thing and it's irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:44 AM
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GIRL. I almost tagged you because I was thinking of your "$45k?! That's over the national average income! RP CONFIRMED" comment 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:41 AM
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At the very least you can change your values and not be a tradcon. You can't change your physical appearance and skeletal structure very much This is an odd stance... why would he change he whole value system for me? Further what would be the impetus?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:40 AM
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I think you misread my comment... I pointed out I would NOT have been interested in tall, strong tradcon. I think you missed the UN in UNINTERESTED.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:36 AM
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I'm ENFP though. 🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:34 AM
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Dated? No. FWB/crushes/unrequited affection on my part? Yes. I'm 99% sure I've discussed this before- tall guys seemed to like me more than short men and I likely responded with being more focused on taller men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:32 AM
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I probably would have honestly. I don't give 2 shits about his lack of hair so I probably would have been fine with him being short. But who the hell knows? What does it matter? It's weird to look at a person and ONLY focus on one element and declare that is the source of their partner's attraction just because it fits the RP frame. He's masculine/RP in one way and BP in a million others!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:27 AM
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Really? Maybe I am associating pickiness with being overly critical. I don't think that is a recipe for happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:22 AM
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Because my husband is tall? 😂 Okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:20 AM
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If he was big and strong but a tradcon, macho STEM guy- I would have been uninterested. Does RP recommend being a feminist, crier, artist? Cuz, to me, those are features not bugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:18 AM
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... being picky/aware of your partner's flaws means those flaws are more apparent and they bug you more. I don't know what citation you're expecting??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:16 AM
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🙄 1) I think you are vastly oversimplifying RP into "being as masculine as you can matters" 2) Masculinity is more than height. He's big and strong but he's a feminist and a crier and an artist and the day he tries to dread me... 😡🔥🔪
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:14 AM
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You seem to claim that women are pickier than men in selecting mates. While that may result in a better mate quality, being picky would mean we are more aware of the flaws of that better quality mate. We do not know the quality of the partners of the women here, only that they are happy with their partner. So it seems unlikely being "picky" is the key here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:04 AM
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The whole reason I post here is that I think RP is wrong about many things: one of them being the common claim that a relationship has to be RP to be happy. I would feel pretty silly pretending to have knowledge on something I am failing at myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:00 AM
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But that would just mean the women here would have high quality partners but be unhappy with them...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 11:54 PM
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Yes. BE ALL THE THINGS!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 11:42 PM
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Men and women are often attracted to opposite traits in one another. I was poking fun at the idea that short women wanting tall men is hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 10:14 PM
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I am specifically talking about RP claims that female professional success doesn't matter. Either it matters or it doesn't. If it doesn't, a waitress has every right to demand a 6 figure income guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 09:28 PM
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Generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:48 PM
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Everyone settles in some way. I don't think most women are holding out for penthouse Chad...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:46 PM
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I also just see women putting a lot of pressure on themselves. To be thin, successful, a good wife and mother- all while having a low carbon footprint and being FUN!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:39 PM
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Can you define "nesting mommy moo cow"??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:21 PM
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Yes, but not in the same way as a woman "feels safe". Yes, I just explained the way a woman makes a man "feel safe" and how it is different than how a man makes a woman "feel safe." And that "feels safe" isn't as important to men as "feels safe" is to a woman. Given the amount of bitching heard 'round the manosphere about women not supporting men, I don't think your community agrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:11 PM
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😳☠️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 07:50 PM
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I'm implying two things 1) that it makes little sense in a sexual dimorphic species to expect the same standards for each sex. Height isn't usually a requirement or preference for men- I'd go so far as saying a 5'2" girl has better odds with a 6'+ guy than a 5'10" girl 2) redpillers claim professional success is not important to men. Wouldn't a waitress have every right to demand financial success in a partner within the RP worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 07:22 PM
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"I want a girl with long hair who wears dresses" - you see where this is going... 🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 07:04 PM
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Dude. Reported. You keep personally attacking people... it's really uncalled for and against the few rules in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 06:33 PM
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Totally!! That thing where they "walk" up while holding the pole is BANANAS.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 06:18 PM
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Yeah- my friend is a competitive pole dancer. She rehearses like 30 hours a week. She would definitely survive a zombie apocalypse just using her ability to climb straight up things 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 06:09 PM
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Wait. What? When/where are women upset about the attention received by strippers? When/where are men acting with "high confidence and dgaf attitude with strippers"??? Not only do they give fucks, they give DOLLARS. I honestly don't know what you're talking about here...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 05:59 PM
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Yasss! Glad you made this thread cuz people were all over the place on defining them on the other one!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 05:56 PM
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I guess, I respect and understand it but it's not attractive. I've likely been spoiled by being around artists so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 05:53 PM
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Hard work at something he's good at and enjoys is very attractive. And if I get to join in the spoils- cool customizations around the house, access to some event or meeting interesting people is icing on the cake!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 05:32 PM
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Very short women are unattractive. Then why are so many very tall, attractive men with very short women? Are you sure this isn't a personal preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 05:14 PM
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I was clarifying by giving you additional expamples of what it seemed you were claiming. You lumped fat in with short and I was pointing out this commonly noted "hypocritical" female preference is based on sexual dimorphism. I think you're getting a little too down the rabbit hole on the height thing when you claim short women have "bad height genetics". Men have not been selecting for height for a millennia and we keep getting taller (nutrition plays a factor of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 05:11 PM
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I have never seen a woman being "too short" ever listed as a negative- unless her proportions get screwed up. I don't think you're following what I am saying- you can't claim a tall, muscular, short haired man is of equal attraction as a tall, muscular, short haired woman. Human males/females exhibit different sexually attractive traits. Men without boobs desiring women with boobs isn't hypocritical or problematic. Short women desiring tall men isn't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:45 PM
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That's an employer issue though. My degree is applicable to my job but not necessary for it. Neither my job nor my industry existed when I was in college though. Most of the people I work with have degrees unrelated to their professions but they learned on the job/created the model for the work... not sure what your point is?? Edit: a word!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:40 PM
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Oh gotcha! 👍🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:35 PM
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Haha. No, most people are bigger than me. I like having a giant with me when I go out. NO ONE talks to me on the street when I am with my husband. Maybe they say, "Hey big guy! Got a dollar?!" But I am invisible. It's nice and it is atractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:24 PM
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Being a short woman is not undesirable though... you can't claim sexual dimorphism traits as negatives in the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:22 PM
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I don't think many men would express support/security as "safety" but you don't think a stable, supportive woman makes a man "feel safe"?? Like he can take a risk and not be lectured for failing, like he has someone in his corner, like he has another set of hands in attempting something? Yeah, I feel completely physically safe walking with my husband in bad neighborhoods and alone with him after a few drinks. He "feels safe" giving up salaried jobs for something that excites him, being ballsy in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:19 PM
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Yeah, I think Michelle is gorgeous but I am clearly influenced by her composure, humor and the dynamic her and Barack exude. It's impossible for me to separate that from her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 03:54 PM
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The nature of Sookie's relationship with the male leads is completely different in the books... there are like 20 books so I can't totally cover here XD
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 03:48 PM
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Do you also think it's gender specific? I don't. I think it's a confidence issue. And I think this goes beyond just mate selection. I look at how my husband and some of his male friends approach job hunts: "I want that job. I don't have some of the skills they say they "require"- I'll send my resume in and the worst that can happen is they don't call me." Whereas many other folks (statistically women mostly) won't even apply if they don't have the required skills/experience. Romantically, there'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 03:15 AM
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Yes- selecting for passion/attraction is RP. Exactly what R&J did. BP would have been Juliet pairing off with sensible Paris.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 12:32 AM
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Even for a 14 year old virgin unicorn?? But seriously, I think all passion/attraction is RP not BP compatibility and communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 12:16 AM
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How much he sucks at the position he "won" despite receiving fewer votes than his opponent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 11:43 PM
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No one is claiming it's complicated. I am claiming that you're wrong. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 11:41 PM
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Ah gotcha! Trump on the brain 😂 Out of curiosity, how does that look to you? Well- I see a lot of egalitarian relationships where one spouse leads for a period of time and then another leads for a period and then back to the first. Just because one person is leading NOW doesn't mean that will be that way forever or that it is the nature of their relationship as a whole. My husband and I have a pendulum set up like this. Another model is a Christian marriage with male headship in place- the man b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:22 PM
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Okay hear me out: totally based on passion and attraction, her parents push her to marry a "safe" guy and she sticks with the forbidden guy- an eventual exiled outlaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:11 PM
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Oh oh- I didn't know you meant Trump specifically. I guess, I see lots of male led relationships that aren't RP. And I also don't think prioritizing one spouse's career over another's automatically means that spouse is in the dominant role.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:00 PM
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Meh, Romeo just chased his dick. Rosaline could have been his Juliet if she gave him the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:42 PM
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That's a very vague, and may I add convenient, definition....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:37 PM
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Wait- what? BP isn't always lack of RP knowledge- it's a rejection of it. Open communication (a widely noted BP tactic) is the opposite of a covert contract. Having an unfavorable relationship dynamic, or being unable to get into relationships. This makes no sense though- of that's the case you're just claiming all "good" relationships are RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:27 PM
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:24 PM
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Oh hey- that's my comment. I clarified a bit in that thread but I'll also post here: I don't think children should be the center of their parents' life. Right or wrong, I was raised to believe the #1 thing a child needs is a unified parental unit. My parents believed the health of their relationship helped their children immeasurably so they focused on their marriage and believed they were better parents because of it. Individually, they were each other's focus. As a unit, their children were th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 07:11 PM
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Oh I read them forever ago too. That convo stuck with me- I thought the gender dynamics + historical contexts + modernization via eternal life was really interesting. I should give 'em a reread. They were fun beachy books!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 07:00 PM
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😒 it seems pretty bizarre to claim two people who believe we live in a patriarchy and that there is a need for female advancement to overcome that are in a "RP relationship." I think you're watering down the definition to nothing...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:49 PM
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"They are awesome" =\= "they are RP" Both of them identify as feminists. They were both working parents. For a solid portion of their marriage she out earned him. It's absurd you would call them "Red Pill."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:40 PM
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Did you read the books?? I am not talking True Blood. I am referencing the books. Eric and Sookie have a whole conversation where she asks why he treats her like an equal and Bill treats her like a mix of property and breakable China. Eric explains that in his time they couldn't afford to treat women with kid gloves and that Bill was holding onto habits from the chivalrous 1860's.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:33 PM
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Whoops! Replied to the wrong comment!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:32 PM
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Also, theoretically speaking, couldn't 2 single friends be each others top priority? Yes but, unless they are both asexual & aromantic, it would be highly likely one of them will pair off. And don't you rank pretty highly on your parents priority list? What about kids, wouldn't they jump to the top of the priority list? Right or wrong, I was raised to believe the #1 thing a child needs is a unified parental unit. My parents believed the health of their relationship helped their children immeasur…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:29 PM
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Ohhh FUN!! Beatrice and Benedick (Much Ado)- BP Romeo & Juliet - RP Lily and Marshall Eriksen (How I Met Your Mother)- BP Ellie and Carl (UP!)- BP Ron and Hermione (Harry Potter)- BP Sookie and Bill- RP, Sookie and Eric Northman- BP (Sookie Stackhouse books)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:39 PM
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Someone make this for ladies now!!! Too many pool cocktails for me to do anything but comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 01:05 AM
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Ah- I thought you were echoing the other commenter's post. Sounds like we are in agreement!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 01:02 AM
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You're absolutely right and I have never heard it expressed that way. I am sorry you're going though this. If it's any comfort to you: I have very close friendships with some chronically single men and while they are not a higher priority than my husband- they are like family and I love spending time with them. My intention is not to simply improve for my husband. I am sure your have friends that feel that way about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 11:23 PM
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I think (other biological limitations) the issue is less about how old someone is and more the options available once you get into your 30's. Most people in their 30's who want a monogamous, committed relationship who are 1) attractive to get the attention of an object of their desire and 2) have the patience and generousity to have a happy relationship already paired off. The people I see getting together in their 30's are incredibly lucky in that they find someone just out of relationship to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 11:19 PM
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But that's true of either gender- trust me, I have paid for 5 different gaming systems I can't even name thanks to Husband. That doesn't change that it's baseline cheaper to share a household with another adult than have two separate spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 07:50 PM
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Excuse you, I have phenomenal duets with plenty of my gay friends (aren't musical theatre people totally fun and not at all obnoxious at karaoke?! 🎭🤣)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 05:15 PM
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Being someone's priority over everyone else. While I may be one of many priorities to them, friends and family usually have their own partners and those partners are their priority. My husband is my priority and I am his. I cannot get that from friends or family. Edit: female, 33, blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 05:08 PM
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Blue Pill comics
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:09 PM
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It's basically cultural appropriation!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:18 PM
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Oh I agree with you- just saying what my 70 year old parents think!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 01:49 AM
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I dunno- my parents think oral is sex... maybe it's a liberal vs conservative thing? 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 12:41 AM
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Look out, someone's gonna come in and declare our virginities were lost when we made eye contact with Chad the first time!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 10:10 PM
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21/F/blue pill. Married him. 🙌🏼💍 (Note: like most non-geriatric Americans, I am defining virginity loss as PIV sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 09:56 PM
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We called it "pink panty droppers"- SO KLASSY
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:21 PM
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Oh yes. There is a middle ground. I think people who haven't paid for a wedding see a $20-$30k price tag and don't realize that is what a middle ground wedding costs. The horseback, palace wedding is 100's of thousands....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:17 PM
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Also not sure why people who say they'll never get married have such strong opinions on this... it's not your money. In fact you're just guaranteeing you do a fuckton of work for the people getting married around you...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:15 PM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:25 PM
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I hope they are in union 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:23 PM
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Yup. In my circles, logos are considered low class even while being expensive af. So many of my friends will roll their eyes at a logo bag but then be like "oh this clutch?! It's actually made of wood! I traded a pair of boots for it on a mountain in Greece!" We still define ourselves by our possessions, it's just different and the divide is access rather than money (because everyone can get a credit card)!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:02 PM
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I designed my wedding dress. It removed a lot of stress honestly. I looked exactly as I pictured and there were no pushy sales girls. I even wore it again in an indie series last year!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:54 PM
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Even more annoying to me is the trend in liberal circles where you spend a shit ton of money but it better not be anything overt like a sports car or diamonds. Our houses are filled with refinished midcentury furniture, our cars are customized to the gills hybrids, our beer is local and aged in rose & gin barrels, and our dogs are rehabilitated rescues. All those things require money and time and while I enjoy them (I am guilty of buying & indulging in all of the above) I don't think we're someh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:48 PM
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I also think throwing a large party- especially one where the people throwing it are supposed to be the guests of honor is a tricky feat to pull off... People act like going this park, DIY route is the chill way to go but I have been to weddings like this and the day of is STRESSFUL. My husband was in a wedding where half the bridal party didn't fit in the car to the reception and he ended up spending part of the reception where he was a groomsmen gettting a limo for the bride and groom because …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:04 PM
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Echoing the sentiments on family pressure. Both my husband and I come from giant, pillars of the community families. We pushed back on the things we really cared about (not in a church, officiant we knew, no garter toss) and then were flexible on the rest- after all they were paying. As far as a giant guest list goes- I wanted a much smaller wedding but my parents ran a business at the time and "had to" invite their clients and vendors. We "had" to invite all the cousins and their kids and their…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:52 PM
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I would need to find the study/source but it's pretty widely noted that individuals who cohabitate use fewer resources than single person households. Which makes sense: splitting a 1 bed (and heating/cooling it) between two people is cheaper than paying for 1 bed yourself even if one party is only contributing 25%. Expenses do not double just because two people live in a shared space.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 02:19 AM
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I honestly don't know what you're talking about. I am specifically stating that LewisCross presents his experiences as universal. This includes but is not limited to: being lied to throughout childhood/adulthood that women were not attracted to jocks/hot men- that he was told "we have sex with them but don't like it, we like nice guys like you," that the majority of women of women are marrying men they are not and have never been attracted to, that lawyers and doctors are not attractive and are …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 12:03 AM
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In what world is anyone but the parents of bride paying in the 10's of thousands for a wedding?? My parents wanted us to have a big wedding and they wanted to pay for it- so a big wedding was had. The weddings funded by the bride and groom are usually smaller affairs. I have legit never heard of the groom paying for the majority or entirety of one of these giant weddings- it's always the parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 11:35 PM
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Are you white knighting for Pemster??? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:01 PM
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I don't even need for women to understand my own personal opinions, feelings or experiences. I just need them to understand, on a very rudimentary simple level, the male experience and that men are quite different from women in their wants, needs, desires, outlook, approach to life, etc. Yet you often present your own opinions/experiences as a universal male experience and then stomp and shout when questioned...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 09:09 PM
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But there is a world of difference in caring about/changing your behaviors for a group of people and the individuals you know in that group. The phenomena I think SunHappy is describing is this weird notion where women should model their actions after the desires of men in general which an individual is never going suddenly become that imaginary group they'll always be an individual. So will a waiter or any other man she interacts with. Edited for clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:08 PM
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I am not clear on the origin either but it is interesting to me that many very conservative, Christian sects that promote male headship in marriage are deeply divided on this. While some camps believe women should not ever be in a power position (even teaching or ministering) above men, some believe that women are only called to submit to their fathers and then their husbands and that a woman submitting to a man who is neither her husband or father is a form of adultery or fornication.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 03:51 PM
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I mean I see this here. There was a thread where some RPers/black pillers were saying they couldn't imagine Atlas, me and some other women in LTR's being submissive... they were gauging how we treat our partners by how we push back on men on PPD. It was weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 03:26 PM
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Motion to change "sex" to "assisted orgasm"- it would ensure we are clear on what one is getting from the encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 07:02 AM
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My marriage is out of my league...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:00 AM
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6'2 AW! Little guy!!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 05:59 AM
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Um how dare you? Strangers on the internet are much better judges of whether you deserve your partner or vice versa. It is known.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 10:51 PM
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"Wider society" can mean a multitude of things. I think what you wrote is pretty conservative advice. Not many modern, sex positive, "do all the things to all the people but get tested and use a condom" is going to say stay with someone who won't blow you...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 03:25 AM
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I mean- my husband specifically told me he wanted to take things slow because he didn't want to "hurt" me. He was protecting me (even if just from himself). There's no way I could take that as an insult or think "well, you rushed into this with other girls! Why not meee?!" He wasn't with those other girls for a reason. I didn't and don't feel competitive with his past.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 05:06 PM
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What I just wrote? OMGIKNO
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 03:59 PM
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What do you mean "less free"? To be clear: am not suggesting I refuse ever doing things with my partner/spouse that I have done with others. I am saying delaying physical things can lead to increased intimacy and can increase the likelihood of things becoming an LTR. I would be okay with that scenario... why wouldn't I be?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 03:58 PM
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Well, that's the blue pill advice, though, right? Nope. You should respect a woman when she says she doesn't do certain sexual acts, Yup. and if you "love" her you should stay with her and make it work anyway, right Absolutely not. If you are not getting what you want/need and you have discussed it and are at an impasse: LEAVE. Give both of you a chance to find happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 03:03 PM
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You are projecting female intuition onto men Is it really intuition if you're explicitly telling them? "I am not ready to do X yet..." or "not yet... I like you..." blah blah blah.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:55 PM
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I think there's less malice than you're assigning. For some men, it may be about judgement (I didn't feel that way)- it's mostly getting to know each other and incentivizing/adding excitement to it. Also, just personally, if I become physical with someone I like I get attached. Delaying that is a protective measure as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:50 PM
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And yet it works and lots of women use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 01:41 PM
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Which is possible, but the few video's I seen of him with these women it doesn't seem like a photoshoot tho But... that's the point? I'm struggling to describe it but it's like any photoshoot set where they get behind the scenes shots. The models are on and make it look authentic. Maybe they're sex workers or strippers (I have a stripper friend who travels all over) or models but he is very likely likely paying them and definitely covering their booze, flights, drugs etc. I should also say on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 04:26 AM
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That's my point- in Hollywood these girls will get paid for shoots even if it's meant for social media. At the very least he's footing the bill for everything, if not paying them a daily/hourly rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 03:06 AM
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Well, I am glad it's low key then!! Very exciting and understandable you would jump forward a few hours to next month!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 03:04 AM
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It's rumored but pretty obvious... they're not posing half naked on his insta for "exposure."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:48 AM
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Ahhhh!! And you just had surgery?! I am stressed FOR you!!! (Also congrats!!!!)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:41 AM
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Yes. I just don't get the time travel competition impetus. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:40 AM
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Or it's just a quick example I typed while stepping on an elevator? I didn't workshop the dialogue, Sam Shepard. Some people talk plainly about sex and boundaries- it's not robotic at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:29 AM
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But for some reason that can live without this thing they want because at least she never gave it to anyone else? Idk, doesn't compute for me. I got into this last month and no one could explain it to me... they sure got angry though!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 01:53 AM
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Totally anecdotal but I started dating my husband at 21 and was smitten from our first kiss. Even our dogs favor him. It's basically Beatlemania in my house when he gets home. My friends are pretty similar in histories- my good friends and neighbors were HS sweethearts. Our other close friends started dating when the wife was 21- she still talks about seeing him in Street Car Named Desire as Stanley and being like "YUP. DONE." and having to wait until he and his then gf broke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 01:19 AM
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It sounded to me like you were saying women will not have enthusiastic sex/give a man head when in a committed relationship or even once they're married to seem like wife material. Am I mistaken? What timeline are you envisioning here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 12:49 AM
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frequently girls do fuck the guy they want right away whether it's smart or not This legit seems less fun. I remember the feverish make outs and escalation period quite fondly... Yeah, this slut for ons then delay for the more desirable guy is confusing af to men. Is it? I think dudes are pretty aware of it? I mean, part of the game is telling the guy how much you want him but that you have to wait because you want to see him again- explicitly. Otherwise he won't know what the carrot is. My husb…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 12:38 AM
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You're ignoring that women will act more prudish to come off as wife material? We delay sex acts to seem more like wife material- we don't totally remove them from the table. My husband waited a bit for the first bj (because I wanted him to be my bf not a ONS) but you better believe he got it eventually and with extra gusto! 😂 I think you're mistaking the tactic women use...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:47 PM
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THIS. Why would someone vow to be with a woman forever who won't give him a bj?? Even if she has never given one before? I don't get it....
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:28 PM
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It's widely known he pays those girls....
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:18 PM
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I would say it's about submission as women submit ultimately to a man through sex, as that is when she is most vulnerable. I don't think this is universal. I also think this is a little (if not a lot) wrapped up in the notion that women don't actually like sex- they just do it to keep a man they want around. Of course there exists a healthy balance of trying things your partner requests and being honest about your boundaries/past- "I did this before- I hated it, I felt unsafe. Please don't ask m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:07 PM
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I think I missed that thread!! Sounds like a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 09:29 PM
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They're not "orbiters" if she is sleeping with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 09:20 PM
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For the first point, I said RPers not you specifically quite clearly. For the second point, I am merely elaborating on my thought that while I do not care if harems/polygyny exist I doubt they will become the only model. No sure why any of this is ruffling feathers or reading as "putting words in [your] mouth"...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 09:14 PM
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First of all, I think it's pretty comical when RPers don't do the math that a girl in harem usually has a harem of her own. Second of all, i don't care what consenting adults do so if that does come about I am in the "okay with it" camp. That said, I doubt monogamy will ever go away completely and I doubt the UMC and up will ever stop marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 08:23 PM
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Universal claims of effectiveness of any of the following: dread game, male headship without conversations/consent for female submission, overcoming LMR, rough sex without clear boundaries/communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 03:37 PM
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But the definition of average is the actual crux of the conversation. He is tall. That + social proof got him laid despite other negative traits. I don't think the BPers the OP is describing are looking at guys who are 5 across the board and calling them average; I am looking at guys with a few glaring negatives and a few shining positives- these are the non-Chad "average" guys that get laid. Not totally bland, cannot remember their names because they are basically vanilla yogurt made into man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 03:10 PM
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That is why I didn't seek out that dynamic. It doesn't work for me. I don't know why you're being so salty about this. Jesus. It's not like I am ordering extra mayo- I just like it when I have a lot of comfort and security. Damn. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:50 PM
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Well, we are on a forum debating sexual strategy. Why wouldn't we discuss our differing experiences and point out when a claimed universal truth isn't true for us? Just confused as to why you are outright denying the claims of other women here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:48 PM
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Women are no longer dependent on men. In the past men were financial providers. Now women don’t need a man’s money; in fact, most women are “expected” to work and earn their own money. Marrying a man is no longer a financial necessity. This always seems like a strange complaint... I make more money than my husband by nearly 3x. This doesn't mean I am not dependent on him- he brings a shitload of value to my life and while I could still live in my house and buy all the clothes and make up I want,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:29 PM
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Or because we see bad advice being given and disagree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:05 PM
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I don't... why is it impossible to believe that while this may be true for you, it's not true for all other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:04 PM
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You're kind of illustrating my point. He's 6'4" but he's been shaving his head since 17 as that's when he started losing hair. He loves people but is extremely quiet at first and has a to find an "in" which is a bit difficult. He wore oversized Hawaiian shirts or logo tees and Costco jeans until I got ahold of him. He has lots of positives and he had/has conventional negatives. They balance each other out- better than him just being average all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:07 AM
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ENFP here- not my style. I hate feeling insecure. I shut down or go batshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 04:55 AM
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Delightful! Been together 12 years- married 6. We travel. Eat good food. Drink good drinks. Take fun pills (responsibly). We make art together. I think he's dreamy and he has heart eyes for me. I got too much sun and he has been going crazy over my tan lines. He built us a saltwater pool in the back yard and we spend as much time in it as possible. He's very good at his work and I spend much of my time being proud of him. We have a very happy life 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 01:23 AM
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Hyperbole aside- I do think average guys have a fine time in the dating world. My neighbor is a good, solid guy- but I would say he's pretty average aside from him being very outgoing and funny (and not in a "game" way). He's dating a 24 year old, super cool stunner. They are very sweet together. (And no, she is not financially dependent on him at all). My husband (while I think he is the best thing since sliced cheese- he's infinitely better than bread, thank you very much) is, objectively, a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 07:48 PM
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I think this is pretty cultural. Even in Brazil the trend is to bleach your arm and leg hair as the blonde hair highlights tan skin. For a period in college a lot of the girls went without shaving but these were hot hippy chicks with hot hippy boyfriends so it was pretty accepted. Meanwhile some of the dark haired girls in my sorority naired literally from the eyebrows down. And I can't go more than a day without shaving under my arms, it's fine and sparse (when I went a few days to go for a wax…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 06:24 PM
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"Evolutionary reproductive strategies" != RP
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 04:02 PM
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Your entire theory is based upon the idea that RP is correct about "the true nature of women." What if it's not? What if women aren't garbage versions of men manipulating dudes for a higher status dick to suck his soul out of? What if women are just people- some of whom are mean manipulators, some who are selfless, kind and giving and most who are just somewhere in the middle? Who is angry about a lie isn't really all that important if the source is untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 03:51 PM
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My dad is totally fantastic. We disagree politically but I love him to pieces- we were really close when I was a kid too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 03:36 PM
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Men still protect women- even strangers in public. My husband has stood up for an acquaintance he doesn't even like- we lived in the murder capitol of the US and he did that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 05:47 AM
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I see him claiming to be things verbally that women pick up on non-verbally. For course hot people are required to be be less charming but nothing this guy is doing is a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 05:43 AM
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Nonsense. He's saying "I'm shy" and "I am awkward" not being shy and awkward. Whoever did this experiment needs to take a writing and/or scene study class. Weirdos don't just say it, they show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 12:32 AM
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Dude- it's not my friend's standards keeping you from her contact info; it's mine. I am not playing with that doxxing bait for one second.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 06:32 PM
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And I think there are a lot of women who are literally just looking for someone to accept them- for whatever reason those groups aren't overlapping. Sounds like you could build a dating app. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 06:00 PM
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She has tried online dating (edit: to be clear OLD is where she's meeting these guys- I don't know of anyone who has approached her IRL). And sorry, I don't give my friends' info out to strangers. I don't think anything will convince you the guys rejecting her are far from top tier but I'd seen their pics and her experience is far from what you're describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 05:32 PM
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Wise words my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 05:26 PM
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Yeah. I love my 30's. Can't challenge your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 05:22 PM
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You're a ray of sunshine!! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 04:59 PM
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Oh, so she's expecting to find a LTR through casual sex. She wants an LTR or even FWB but she ends up settling for casual sex because it's all anyone will offer her. OR MAYBE, she just wants a top-tier guy to get in a LTR with her. I assure you this is not the case. I have seen pictures of her hook ups. It also seems the worse looking/weirder a guy is the worse he treats her... I know this is hard to imagine but she's literally not being pursued by men. She is not rejecting men because there is …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 04:46 PM
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I have two friends right now that cannot find boyfriends despite actively looking. One has casual sex and the dudes are not attractive, rough and uncaring and ghost her shortly after. Life is rough for single women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 04:09 PM
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the truth is marriage doesn't work the majority of the time for the majority of people who do it, regardless of demographics. This is just factually untrue. Given your lack of interest in facts: bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 08:06 PM
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Might I suggest a moleskin for documenting your feelings rather than posting on a debate subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:58 PM
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Wait... There are no financial or physical advantages to being married. I don't care what studies you find or anything else. All facts are friendly. Be sad about your loss, that is tough, but don't pretend this is based on anything but emotion. Jesus, telling men there are advantages to being married is pretty fucking low. The advantages that are documented but you deny because of emotional reasons? Dude, you're off the deep end now...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:53 PM
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True but then you have the question is: are those 25-35 year old women better than the girl in his bio class? Both in her own innate traits and the history they'll have throughout the years? I guess it comes down to taste. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:50 PM
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You're an outlier. Your opposition to marriage is emotional- which is understandable- but this doesn't mean other men should forgo the known financial and physical advantages that marriage offers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:45 PM
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You have to take demographics into account. It's really strange to claim a college educated couple, making 6 figures, where both partners have married parents, no children from previous relationships have the same odds as divorce as a HS educated couple, one unemployed partner, with divorced or unmarried parents, dealing with children from previous relationships. It's just not useful to apply such a wide brush stroke when assessing benefit and risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:41 PM
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I mean really, when you look at the demographics/overlapping activities associated with low divorce likelihood (low n-counts, but later marriage, higher income)- this is the only timeline that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:24 PM
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It's not uncommon for those 24 year men to be boyfriends of the women who will become their wives though. Looking for marriage material in your 20's doesn't mean marrying then. I feel like these convos never take into account how long people date/are engaged these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:10 PM
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I am so sorry you had to go through this. I hope you are healing now. Good on you for getting out. You have a lot to be proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 05:25 PM
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I know what the conversation is and the one you're attempting to have so you can continue to grasp at straws. Good lord. Can you go lick your wounds somewhere else??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 12:08 AM
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I think you're labeling feminine behavior as "gay." And I mean a man is going to present happiness/joy/effervescence differently than a woman but look up Chris Evans interviews or Jimmy Fallon. They are totally on and not labeled gay or femme.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 11:42 PM
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I cannot blame you! He is majestic!!! His paws look so soft too!!! 😍😍😍
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 10:19 PM
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OMG that cat is adorable though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 10:13 PM
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Beautiful people have more fun than ugly people. Fun, charming people have more fun than boring people. This is genderless. (Women's clothes are more fun than men's clothes- I'll give you that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 09:53 PM
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Oh you're right- I should just assume all your comments are passive aggressive quoting chains. Thanks for the clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 08:35 PM
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If this is a consistent issue for you, perhaps you should look inward.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 08:13 PM
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IME the only bad sexual experiences I have had were when guys were trying to be overly prescriptive- attempting to replicate something they saw in porn or their own masturbation style. I have only had PIV sex with my husband and he has always treated sex like a fun adventure and never made me feel like we were supposed to be following a formula. That lack of pressure has been key for us experimenting, pair bonding regularly and just generally making sex a source of happiness instead of stress. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:29 PM
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That's not my point my point is that you wouldn't know most of these Reddit Ppl think this way irl Your claim was that I didn't know the men in my life's stance on this. You're wrong. Also, most people with OPs opinion don't think child brides get a good deal. There were multiple people in this thread claiming it. Those people are fucking garbage and I stand by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:43 PM
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No I do not think the people I associate with IRL are arguing for the things being argued for in this thread- even under the guise of anonymity. Sorry bud, not everyone thinks child brides have a good deal or that 14 year olds can consent to sex with adults. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:32 PM
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How? I am talking about actions not desires which I clearly said. I am also not opposed to people taking action with legal adults. This is the majority opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:56 AM
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Nope! Give zero fucks about their private thoughts. Only care about their stated values and actions which are: young girls are not on the sexual docket.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:09 AM
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People/men cannot control what they are attracted to but they can control their actions. Should men be penalized for their attraction? Nah. Should 12-15 old girls (unequipped for modern, adult relationships) be protected from adult men? Abso-fuckin-lutley. Part of that is separation of the two groups and part of that is making it clear to men where their lane is and how not staying in it results in criminal action and social ostracism. Did I fucking stutter?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:50 PM
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So all natural urges should be indulged regardless of harm or impact to other members of society? And any opposition to that is "spooks"???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:56 PM
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Nope. We control a multitude of "natural" urges for the greater good. Women are part of enforcing that. You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:49 PM
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Elaborate? I'll show an example: No. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:48 PM
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It represents a serious imbalance of power ensuring she can never set or enforce her own boundaries. Do you assume this hypothetical grandpa is an asshole and uncaring? Oh so you're a troll. Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:41 PM
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Are you really arguing that a 14 year old having sex with a gentle 70 year old out of duty is natural or healthy? What the fuck. This place is a garbage fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:36 PM
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An appeal to nature?? Really? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:34 PM
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Ensuring a relationship is not exploitative is an expectation of people in our society and people in said society are correct to shame people who do not prioritize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:50 PM
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I disagree with your baseless opinion. 15 year olds are more than capable of deciding what to do with their own bodies. Where do you think the line should be drawn? A 15 year old is not going to be an equal in a relationship with an adult. They do not have the power or autonomy to set and enforce their own boundaries. Age of consent should be 18 year old (with some flexibility for small age gaps). Subconsciously you're trying to limit your competition. I disagree with your baseless claim. Men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:46 PM
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Let me know when you're done editing your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 07:32 PM
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15 year olds are not equipped to have a relationship with an adult man in our society. I feel protective over young women, not competitive. Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 07:11 PM
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Because part of a non-exploitative relationship is an interest in your partner/their thoughts? So "Hur dur who cares what any woman says??! 12 year olds have the same value as adult women because I just wanna put my dick in 'em ReeeEEEEE" is a repugnant stance for adult women who want to be valued as more than a warm hole? Caring what women think is sorta key to valuing them as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 07:07 PM
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A soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:59 PM
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You have a really bizarre view of the experience of a child bride...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:51 PM
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And you think that's something to aspire to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:50 PM
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How old are their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:42 PM
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Why wouldn't it matter? Women are part of the community creating and enforcing the social mores. People/men cannot control what they are attracted to but they can control their actions. Should men be penalized for their attraction? Nah. Should 12-15 old girls (unequipped for modern, adult relationships) be protected from adult men? Abso-fuckin-lutley. Part of that is separation of the two groups and part of that is making it clear to men where their lane is and how not staying in it results in c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 04:56 PM
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My sister and BIL. They started dating at 17/19. Happily married for 20 years. I love seeing how they interact, hearing her stories/advice and stealing ideas from them. My mom and dad is more of a cafeteria situation. I pick and choose what I model after them. They've been together 48 years. Can't argue with that... Some older friends. They were getting their masters while my husband and I were getting our undergrads. They took us under their wings and we are neighbors now! I think guidance from…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 04:03 PM
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Yeah- desire is one thing, action is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 03:06 PM
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Threads like this are a sober reminder of the quality of human that frequent this place. 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 03:06 PM
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Hmmm. That makes more sense... still weird. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 11:08 PM
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Hmmm... maybe I hang out with white knight, outliers but I see plenty of men sticking up for women/people in need IRL when it becomes necessary (which isn't all that common but still). My BIL got into it with some shithead tourist for pushing a local when he and my sister were in a 3rd world country adopting my niece. He had a shit ton to lose but he has principles and wasn't going to sit by. My husband got stuck in a protest on his walk home from work and ended up just staying with the march to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 10:53 PM
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Alphas are unpredictable, too destabilizing a force to make up the majority. Long live the high beta. Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 09:53 PM
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This thread is getting like Mad Max levels of weird. Betas have always run the world... wtf is this thread???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 09:47 PM
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IT CAN GET BIGGER! 😱
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 07:25 PM
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I think your definition of "alpha" and "beta" is broken...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:52 PM
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You keep agreeing with me lately! Be careful, I'll get a big head 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:40 PM
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Haha. 1) I am 33- I assure you drug dealers and gangbangers were pretty exhaulted in 2001. 2) At my wedding my girlfriend from college kept yelling "you married the weed guy." There is a world of difference in doing drugs or even being the guy one gets drugs from and the archetype we are discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:55 PM
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I think the definition is sort of vague anyway but the cartoony versions being trotted out in the comments sound pretty cheesy. Whether women like this cartoon of varying levels depends on the woman... no no, really- NAWALT. I hate motorcycles. My dad rode one. So dumb and loud and dangerous. And I am dramatic enough for my taste, I don't need a swaggering asshole to fill that void. My husband is calm in the storm. My mom loves him. He makes everyone feel comfortable. Why would I want someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:23 PM
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Ugh yes. Everything you said... Of course it's believable and the idea that it's unbelievable is fucking depressing. Also, love the inference that her "beta" roommate was an orbiter who didn't want him there. NO ONE likes to come home to their roommate's hook up- and he was out all night too. Hopefully fucking/getting fucked by non-wierdos who overthink every interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:29 PM
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Hahah! Amazing. We kept it secret because art kids are gossipy AF. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 08:41 AM
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the bigger picture What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 08:40 AM
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The point... you missed it. It wasn't that I didn't want it hook up with him. It's that I wanted to hook up with him more than one time. I would have swiped to hump him for his height alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 08:39 AM
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I never had casual sex but I did fool around with boys. I went further with some dudes first night than I went with my husband. I have had RPers tell me my actions align with my husband being beta bucks because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 11:25 PM
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Is left swiping when you like them? He wouldn't know what it means either so... nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 09:08 PM
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Haha. Thanks! True desire Classic girl game Dude, say it louder for all the RPers who say this isn't the case!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:53 PM
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Awww!! The sneaking around before telling friends was super fun!! I am sure they all knew but the illusion of it all was very appealing!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:52 PM
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Of course our standards are higher for LTR's. My husband is the best man I have ever been with including boys I fooled around with in 45 minutes of meeting them after too many Natty Lights. I never cared to see those boys again. In fact, my girlfriends and I used to joke that we wished the boys we made out/hooked up with would disappear so we never had to run into them again. I couldn't wait to see my husband the day after we talked and kissed the first time. I specifically didn't go as far with…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 04:03 PM
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Yes. I honestly have been having some guilt about interacting on this sub as it's becoming clear a few of these posters have serious emotional/mental issues they need to sort through....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:26 PM
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I am so sorry that was pushed on you. That is a really hard set of beliefs to move past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:15 PM
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Ugh. Only thing worse is pictures of sad, injured animals with no call to action other than captions like "bet I won't get one share"... like why??? Just why??? I am all for posting about animals up for adoption & fundraisers but just sad, hurt animals for no reason?? Day ruiners!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 12:29 AM
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And they usually love "inspirational" quotes over pictures of Minions???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 10:48 PM
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What kind of woman thinks this is a good thing to post? Usually? Poor, single ones. (Also a strong correlation to bad eyebrows. sips almond milk latte)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 10:44 PM
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Y'all need to read more Tom Robbins. He writes only love stories that make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 10:27 PM
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I have a close circle of friends. Many of them are men. Many of them are very gay (including my best friend of a decade). Nearly all of them met me after I was living with my husband and are close with him too. Before I was with my husband, most of my close friends were female. Being in a committed relationship took the pressure off any opposite sex platonic friendships- I think my husband made my friendships with men possible more so than male friendships impacted my dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 01:47 PM
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Oh I am not lamenting my lack of involvement. It all seems terrible tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:41 PM
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Oh they do. Divorce rates for couples under 20 is high. There appears to be a sweet spot after 25 just looking at the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:39 PM
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Eh, a lot of people I know paired off at 20-21 and then married in ~5-6 years. I was 27 when I got married but been with him since I was 21. Just because you pair off young doesn't mean you marry young.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 09:18 PM
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That is crazy. Of course you need the favor of your manager by that is just part of it. At least at my company, gaining favor across multiple departments is imperative to getting things done. My manager favors me because I can get so much done with so many people across the org.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:42 PM
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THe cute homely girls who nail down a guy early 20s and then marry by 22-26, are the most successful. Once again, I succeed by pure accident! Everything is coming up Maude! But really, I think you're right. I would be lost in the SMP today. Plus, my habits and standards have grown with my husband's from garbage college students to adults so we are pretty in sync on the day to day stuff. It really is easier pairing off young (when you're not hot enough to be a dumpster fire and have everyone be f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:38 PM
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"Shit post is shitty" =\= a lot of feels. Gotta love the mods 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:33 PM
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Thank you! Me too!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:46 AM
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Mmm. I eat meat and even I love a good seitan hot wing. Love the texture!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:37 AM
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Because no cares that you saw someone you thought was too hot for his date at a bar. It's not worth addressing (two d's btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:35 AM
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Aww!! I love this!!! There are a million little things but the biggest thing I can think of is the last few holidays. Christmas 2015 was a disaster. We spent $1800 to fly home and spend the holiday with my family and it all fell apart. Like part of the family at our cabin, part still back in our hometown... People screaming through cell phones. This is not normal for my family... we don't fight like that especially not on Christmas. My mom was a wreck. The whole time, Husband was completely pati…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:31 AM
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Oh JFC, you don't think you made a "very good" point. Good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:19 AM
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Say "obersation" aloud- sounds like a drunk person trying to say "observation." You're not making a point in the OP. It's a rant. Laughing is the correct response.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:55 AM
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It was how you misspelled it. Have another drink, it'll do you good! 🍻
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:33 AM
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I make an acute obersation 😂😂😂☠️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:24 AM
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I am an ENFP... so many performers are and I refused to date them. We are effing CRAZY.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:16 AM
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My mom always says that. 😀 (The victim, volunteer thing not the asshole part.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:00 AM
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Fair enough! 👍🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 11:43 PM
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Good news is, it is only 1 or 2 users and their posts are being moderated into submission. There's hope yet!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 11:39 PM
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Also: you deserved it! (Funny I see plenty of that here and little to none in the Q4M...)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 11:23 PM
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Are you drunk? Wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 06:27 PM
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Sigh. Again: I am talking about historical mindsets. I think those historical mindsets can easily be classified as "repressive" when they are based upon/propped up by blatantly false medical information that dissuade (non-compulsive) masturbation and pleasurable sex between consenting, married/monogamous adult partners. I think mixing that with Calvinism's belief that all humans are inherently broken/evil and prone to sin (particularly of the flesh) with only a few viable for salvation through "…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 06:21 PM
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That downvoting is nice, level headed and logical? Agree but here we are!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:36 PM
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What a quick edit! I am not your student and you are not my teacher. I am not your subordinate and you're not my superior. Our knowledge on this subject shows otherwise. Nice downvote btw. Very level headed and logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:30 PM
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Is there a reason you are fixated on the single word "stop" in my comment? Is it because you recognize your continued lack of consistency on present action and historical contexts?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:24 PM
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Oh I ignore plenty of your unsubstantiated claims. Your complete ignorance on history/historical mindsets in this thread deserves correction. You're continually derailing the conversation by confusing present day actions and historical circumstances. Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:20 PM
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You are either 1) instructing a woman/women how to act now based on historical circumstances or 2) ignoring historical circumstances and pretending "do not get married" was a rational reaction rather than the path most women took at the time. Either way... stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:14 PM
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Totally agree. I also think there is a distinct lack of understanding on the impact of religion, particularly Calvinism but more generally religious sexual repression, had on historical mindsets and how far into modern times that extended. Loving Hearts of Men, BTW. Thanks for the reco!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 02:09 PM
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Nope, not lied to. Women (and men) were not raised with our modern idea of marriage being about individual satisfaction so instruction on marital duty wasn't focused on it. Whether their husbands wanted enthusiastic sex was not a concern women were trained to entertain (In contrast, many early 1900 instructions for wives tells them to deny their husbands sex for fear of overindulgence endangering his health or immortal soul....) Claiming women were "lied to" about tactics when the objective was …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 12:17 PM
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I actually was just discussing the passage you're cherry picking with my husband earlier tonight so I am good on the reread. You are omitting some pretty important text from these quotes. Paul was vocally anti-marriage... he was saying it is better to remain unmarried but if you have to be a lusty heathen, at least do it in the bounds of marriage. He speaks of marriage as a last resort for those unable to control themselves. 8 Now to the unmarried[a] and the widows I say: It is good for them to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 04:48 AM
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Reread the thread. I am saying sex for procreation was an expectation of both husbands and wives. Enthusiastic, porn replacing sex was not a requirement for either spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 02:04 AM
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I am talking about historical gender roles, not current dynamics. Read a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:59 PM
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Oh my god. It had nothing to do with desire (men's or women's) and everything to do with the cultural and societal expectations on men and women in their assigned roles. Women were doing their duty and didn't care about their husbands' desires. They cared about their duty to their family and their church. Life was not about desire. How have you read this little about history???
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:01 PM
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No, they weren't "lied to." That wasn't a duty of a wife and everyone knew it. Nice try to sing the song of your people on this unrelated thread though...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:49 PM
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Maybe they did? What does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:48 PM
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Oh that's interesting! Where is that data from?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:33 PM
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Semantics. "I'm sexing you right! You don't need porn! You don't need to read titty rags! I'm RIGHT HERE." Sex that rivals porn is hardly "sex a couple or three times a week." And the above argument isn't one a woman at that time would make- "you don't need porn! Only sexual deviants even like porn! Go to the doctor/the priest and get your mind right!" was more likely. The historical reality is: women were trained that CHILDREN were expected from marriage, not sex. Again, you're projecting moder…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:24 PM
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I don't know and I don't really care. I am merely pointing out the argument "why didn't women raised to be mothers and homemakers reject every level of training and social norms to be super fun sex dolls?!" is a stupid argument and ignorant to the climate of the times people were living in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:15 PM
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Further, none of these women were brought up to believe "fucking a man good" was the duty of a wife...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:52 PM
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Then why weren't those women fucking their men right? Because wives were not expected to be enthusiastic sex partners to their husbands. They were expected to be homemakers and child bearers. You keep projecting a modern idea of marriage onto historical contexts where it makes 0 sense...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:48 PM
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Well this exchange was DELIGHTFUL. 👏🏻🍿🍾
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:02 PM
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Jokes on him though. The fun, hot gay guys LOOOOVVVEEE women. He's gonna be stuck with uggos if he can't hang with their fruit flies...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:32 PM
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Given he's talking beating girls in his class...I'd venture he's pretty young.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:28 PM
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Good luck!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:07 PM
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Shit!! You are gonna plan a wedding in 5 months?!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:23 AM
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I'm not your husband. I am aware and am also deeply grateful. You don't get to manipulate me. I don't want to interact with you at all, in case there was confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:00 AM
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And I'm not going to put him in that position where it's so easy for me to help out. Oh yeah, this is a huge portion of it. It's not difficult. He gets it's important, and thanks me for handling. It just slips his mind and that's fine. I couldn't tell you where our router is or how to reset it... we have different strengths!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:56 AM
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Can you take your strangely outraged, word salad somewhere else? Your reaction appears to have 0 to do with my comment...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:35 AM
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I remind my husband of his mother's birthday and get her gifts (always "from" him) when he forgets because it's not her fault she only had boys and she deserves a birthday present. I also make sure he stays in contact with his friends because it's good for him to have an emotional support system. The biggest reason is that, like all work, it's much easier to maintain a working system than resolve a huge blow out... and that would impact the both of us so it's easier to just stay up to date on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 07:46 PM
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How do you know you one day you won't wake up and just not feel "it" anymore? I don't think desire evaporates all at once, it's a slow decline and much easier to resolve root issues early on. I keep an eye on things that are needling me and address them head on if I think they will become a larger issue. Do you think your desire or your partner's desire is stronger? Mine but that is a mark of my personality type. I am very passionate and doubt other people's devotion to my obsessions so I could …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 06:35 PM
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Hahah. Yeah, okay buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:23 AM
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I'm the higher earner by about 300%- does that make my husband a prostitute??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 05:18 PM
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I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only happily married person in this subreddit, lol. Oh you're not alone!! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 05:15 PM
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Thanks, that's nice of you to say!!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 06:29 PM
1

Any actor becomes objectified when doing a role. Especially a dancer or member of the ensemble who are objectified by height and appearance. Sounds like the claim of someone who hasn't done much acting...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 06:00 PM
1

Aww change your tinder profile to say "Help me make a Ouji board and we'll contact [someone you love or hate]" and see what happens!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 07:38 PM
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Yup!! We don't have anything running now, we moved cross country and are taking it easy/finding our footing, but we did it for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 07:32 PM
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Aw really?? I can't imagine a girl NOT wanting to insta-brag about a painting date!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 05:57 PM
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I work in entertainment- hot people are just as (if not more so) likely as us peasants to be batshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 05:56 PM
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What?? Ugh that sounds so cool. We are planning on hitting up estate sales in the Hollywood Hills and I think/hope we'll see some crazy stuff!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 05:28 PM
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We walked through Georgetown at dusk so we could get a glimpse of the interiors of the fancy houses. Oh we loved wandering fancy neighborhoods and making up stories about the people who lived there!! Estate sales sound like an amazing idea to get inside!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 05:23 PM
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I lived somewhere like that for 10 years. Granted, we have lots of expendable income now but the most entertaining things we do are cheap as hell. MAKE SOMETHING. Paint is cheap. Canvases are routinely 60% off at Michaels (I recently got 5 for $10). And they are not one and done- I have some canvases that I have painted over 8 times. You don't have to be good- it's just fun. Cardboard is free. Paper is abundant. My husband and I do 1900's nights. We light candles, play games we make up and build…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 05:11 PM
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YUP. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 04:57 PM
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Say it again for the short guys in the back!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 04:48 PM
4

Wait- you won't be friends with men who won't fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 11:40 PM
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Haha. FAIR ENOUGH.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 11:26 PM
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I mean if anything, the waiting makes him more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 11:04 PM
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I am kinda floored this is even being debated...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 10:23 PM
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Hahha! No worries!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 08:57 PM
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Ah okay. I wonder what about Christian values is at odds with this tactic? It's pretty traditional. My dad mentioned his dad had this talk with him the "some girls you go all the way with on the first date, some girls you marry- they are not the same girls" and then the typical Madonna/Whore bit...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 08:42 PM
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What an odd, self imposed limitation. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 07:58 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 07:35 PM
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It's not semantics. A group hang out where he is spending $0 on anyone but himself, where he has 100% freedom to leave without any social repercussions is a very different level of investment for him than a 1:1 date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 06:52 PM
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It's "beta bux men wife up girls who make them wait because that's all they can get; but beta bux men also don't get women who screw them immediately". Here are the men I am describing: can get immediate sex from girls 1-3, cannot get immediate sex from girl 4. He ends up in a relationship with girl 4. Why are you defining him as BB, if by your own definition BB cannot get immediate sex? Of course I have heard of women doing that- I think it's a shitty strategy further I am asking for links beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 06:50 PM
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Men who get women willing to have sex with them don't date women who aren't offering sex. Men who have women willing to have sex with them usually don't "date." No one is getting picked up and taken to dinner. People hang out, make plans to run into each other and some pair off at night. He can leave when he wants, text who he wants, meet up and go home with who he wants. This going on dates thing is just not all that common IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 06:35 PM
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Sure. Beta bux men. Except that most beta bux men aren't getting women who screw them immediately. Even most beta fux men don't get that. ... you recognize you're saying "sure this happens with BB except not half of it"... that makes 0 sense. I can assure you from talking with Atlas and others here, there are women who do this. Link me please.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 06:13 PM
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You underestimate the impact of actual abundance. A dude who has women willing to have sex with him pretty consistently doesn't view sex as the end all be all, it's just sex. The notion that he wouldn't hang out with someone he enjoys because she isn't offering sex would be laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 06:12 PM
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Of course there is: men have been incentivizing is not to fuck them immediately for decades. I don't understand this part of your response. Men have been wifing up girls who make them wait and discarding women who screw them immediately forever. How does this square with the current sexual strategy du jour, which is "put out for this guy you really are hot for and want a relationship with, and hope to hell he sticks around", which is pretty much what a lot of women are doing now? I don't know an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 06:06 PM
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It worked for me too and plenty of other women I know. This is girl game 101 not sure why you're denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 06:02 PM
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There's no reason for women to wait to fuck guys they want to fuck. Of course there is: men have been incentivizing is not to fuck them immediately for decades. I want to have sex with this guy but I want to have more than sex with him so he waits. This is about me feeling more than sexual attraction not a lack of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 05:59 PM
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So you admit women are capable of waiting to bang a dude they are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 05:50 PM
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You do realize self control is a thing right?? Women can be attracted to a man and not have sex with him immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 05:17 PM
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It's been so long since I have been at the early stages of a relationship, I'm struggling to remember the order of things. I think it's mostly a situation where I was/am open to close friendships with people (forming that "emotional connection"). It took something to kick the relationship from platonic to sexual. Sometimes, the dude was attractive enough that my mind went there automatically, sometimes it was my mood, sometimes it was an action on his part. I will also say, while I might not req…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 04:58 PM
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I actively avoid comparing myself to other people because, as others have noted, it just isn't helpful and only leads to negative bought spirals. As far as being jealous of the way another woman could make my husband feel, maybe I am tragically delusional, I don't think anyone could make him feel exponentially better than I can and do. We've been together 12 years, no one knows him like I do and no one loves him like I do- I just don't feel particularly threatened by other women given our histor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 05:37 AM
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You were married and didn't allow your wife to help you while you were sick from chemo??? Team actual marriage, get your fair weather shit outta here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 12:06 AM
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🙄 My husband took care of me when I had salmonella. He also held my hand while I got poked, prodded and had a 5 transvaginal ultrasounds all while openly weeping. If he can compartmentalize that, I can compartmentalize him farting. All these pearl clutching folks who can't deal with the notion that their spouse has a digestive track are gonna be in for a rude awakening if said spouse ever has a serious medical issue or emergency.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 09:12 PM
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Hahah. You're sweet. It is a fun (and seemingly random group) group we have here!!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:04 AM
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Look back at our exchange. Those details don't matter. Why 👏🏻 Did 👏🏻 You 👏🏻Automatically 👏🏻Assume 👏🏻 We 👏🏻Were👏🏻 Using 👏🏻The 👏🏻Term 👏🏻Incorrectly?????
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:00 AM
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Why would anyone accept these terms? Because MRP... the toxic corn kernel in the turd of TRP. The wives didn't agree to these terms. Their husbands/fathers of their children unilaterally changed their relationships. It's really, really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:36 AM
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It's The Oatmeal! I have no idea when I started following him...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:25 AM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:55 AM
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Hmmm.. try this: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/unhappy Edit: I would venture most people feel this way. When I look back at the best times in my life, I was tired, I was working towards something I wanted desperately and was stretching my own abilities to accomplish it. I was often surrounded by people I loved- at the time I wasn't pursing happiness nor would I have defined myself as "happy." But looking back, those are the golden times. That is happiness. Or maybe this isn't how most people feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:48 AM
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It's hairbrushing, all day foreplay guy...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:39 AM
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Seeking "happiness" or "satisfaction" is rarely successful. Most people find happiness while pursuing something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:34 AM
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Literally the last time I heard someone say "toxic masculinity" was after they gave money and a bottle of water to a homeless man and started lamenting the lack of resources for veterans. Also why is that guy toxic for not having resources available to him? Why would those details make a difference? Why do you think talking about toxic masculinity= a man is toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:26 AM
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Why would it be? First of all, marriage is about family and community not the individual- don't like it? Don't get married. (Or don't claim you're "married" when one foot is out the door OR at the very least don't call this set up "traditional.") Further, seeking satisfaction and happiness is unlikely to be successful- these are side effects of working towards something and accomplishing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:21 AM
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If you think divorce being viewed as an option or a hyper focus on sexual attraction is "traditional approach to marriage" have I got some fun news for YOU! (I am looking into my crystal ball 🔮 and see you asking me to elaborate on this comment. To save us both time: traditional marriage is about sticking it out until death and the impetus behind staying is willful commitment not satisfaction, attraction or personal happiness.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:59 AM
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Why in the absence of the italicized bit did you decide toxic masculinity was the cause of lack of veterans services? Please also specify where I stated I or my friend called the homeless man or men "toxic"- both things you assigned out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:31 AM
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You added the bit about him not getting help for his drug addiction afterwards. What?? If you understand the term why do you keep asking these types of things: And how did she know he came to be in this situation because men are toxic? . Please explain why that guy was toxic No one called this man toxic. There was a homeless man. My friend gave him water and money and ranted about societal circumstances that could have lead to his situation- one of the things listed was "toxic masculinity" meani…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:22 AM
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Nope. I specifically said the person said "toxic masculinity" AND lamented a lack of resources for veterans YOU added a bunch of unstated details. You also have repeatedly claimed I/the man in question called the homeless man "toxic" because you do not understand the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:10 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:06 AM
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The comment in question wasn't made in a vacuum. Given the context of the conversation, why did you add details to make it seem like I or the person I was talking to were blaming this homeless man for his situation??? Edit: And how did she know he came to be in this situation because men are toxic? Person in question was a man. What are you talking about? No one called this man toxic? Talking about societal ills and men not seeking mental health assistance is not the same as calling someone in n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 11:59 PM
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You clearly do not... The person in question lamented the lack of resources for veterans. Talked about opiates being used for pain management and how easily that evolves into a heroin addiction. They then talked about men not seeking mental health assistance due to toxic masculinity. Basically a rant in frustration about all the possible shitty circumstances that resulted in the man he was helping being in a bad situation. He never said anything about the man he gave water/money being toxic: YOU…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 11:42 PM
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I am shocked. 😂 Creating a thread to critique one user's view points is setting them up to be attacked as you can already see happening upthread.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 11:37 PM
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I think his views are warped and his approach is bad. I also think this post is boardering on witch hunting...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 11:24 PM
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😖 so you don't know the definition of toxic masculinity??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:25 PM
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Literally the last time I heard someone say "toxic masculinity" was after they gave money and a bottle of water to a homeless man and started lamenting the lack of resources for veterans. So... I think you're wrong on a couple of counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:22 PM
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I think I don't hang out with people who claim to be feminists but don't know the basic definitions of feminist terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:14 PM
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Do you hang out with feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:06 PM
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My friends also don't say "irregardless"... maybe people we know just use words correctly???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:04 PM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:00 PM
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I don't even know why you'd expect BP people to not like (traditional) masculine traits. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 09:24 PM
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People don't know how to cook or entertain anymore. I am glad I was raise by people who pride themselves on it. I am in my early 30's and my slightly younger friends and even some my age look at me like I am a magician when I bring out food, drink and actual glasses when they come over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:40 PM
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Eh, the only women I have known that have effectively partnered up in their 30's have been pretty extraordinary (either in looks and/or professionally). Average or even slightly above average girls paired off early (like 20-21) and fostered a "nice boy" into a "good man." (Also: pairing off is just getting into an LTR, not marriage. These girls waited to get married but had been with the guy since early 20's) Still better than pairing off with someone who has a very different life plan but I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:00 PM
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We know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 10:40 PM
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Hmmm... interesting reading these responses. My parents were/are all over each other TBH... lots of "I love you" ing, kisses, hugs, pats etc. My dad was infamous for "15 seconds of dancing"- admittedly, he did this to my mom, me and my sisters. Just scoop you into a waltz without music or he would sing loudly to accompany and he always ends with a very exaggerated dip. When I lived at home, I would walk in on him and my mom slow dancing to nothing- it's very sweet. My friends also walked in on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 03:16 AM
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🙄 of course. If you value physical attraction above everything else don't be shocked when the women you date are vapid idiots...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 12:53 AM
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Really? Churches recommend their young, promising men marry single moms? Or do they recommend older, single men marry divorced/single moms who are single women in those men's age range?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:21 PM
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This shit post is extra shitty...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:57 PM
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Really??? Which things in particular do you think most men would struggle with doing consistently?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:31 AM
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Seems like pretty basic requirements but could be boiled down to fewer, more general but compatibility focused things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:30 AM
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Meh. I was happy single. Happy dating. Happy having a crush. Am happy being married. Happy is a side effect of striving for what you want and being grateful for what you already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 08:53 PM
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If this is the guy I think it is, he also left out the part where his new gf/now wife was told it was him or her kid...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:42 PM
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Defining yourself by things you don't do/are not seems super interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:25 PM
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Don't wish something like that on TWM!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:56 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:43 PM
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33 white woman living in big city, USA. Raised in suburban utopia by married parents with 2 big sisters who were jaw droppingly gorgeous so I settled for being the funny one. Started dating an art obsessed farm boy in college. Moved with him to the big city where he found artistic success and I found success in business/marketing. We spend our time working, traveling and collaborating with other artists (as well as drinking/eating/imbibing delicious & fun things.) My network is made up of libera…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:53 PM
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Depends on the vibe of our encounters and his personality TBH. I knew things were casual at first with my husband but he wasn't much of an "active pursuer" so I would be surprised if he was all the sudden trying to be a player. I would not have been surprised if he went home with someone in our social circles if the opportunity arised, as that was in line with his usual MO. If I knew the guy I was dating was more of a pursuer/player- I'd have no right to be shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 06:31 PM
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I would be both crushed and irate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:45 PM
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I expect nothing we haven't explicitly discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:08 PM
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First of all, I don't think shit testing is a uniquely female behavior. All humans test others' boundaries by pushing them-hell, dogs do it. That said, I think it's sometimes intentional and sometimes subconscious. I have definitely dug in on something for no/an unrelated reason, realized I am being dumb and apologized. I have also become hyper focused on something just because he told me no and so I keep pushing like an ass. Husband is good at pushing back on me which I appreciate out of the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 04:01 PM
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Yeah. I know...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 06:44 PM
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I also think living a people centered life automatically makes you more noticeably happy/joyful. That can be considered cocky to those who are not having as much fun as us "YAY FRIENDS!!" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 03:33 PM
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I am a Hufflepuff too!! 💛🖤💛🖤
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 12:37 AM
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I am not bragging. I am echoing Atlas' sentiments. And I know my neighbors. Thanks though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 12:29 AM
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I dunno, those all sound upper class to me... my family has multiple generations of college graduates but not from Ivy League schools, we always belonged to a country club not a yacht club, we had multiple vacation homes but they weren't mansions, dad gave me a lecture before he easily paid off my $2k parking tickets from spring semester but I wasn't getting a credit card for Coach bags. I would consider my upbringing UMC.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 10:59 PM
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To be fair, your descriptions of your husband's family sound more Upper Class than Upper Middle Class.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 10:24 PM
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Walking by poor people, being served in restaurants by them is not knowing them... I know/interact with 0 single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 09:01 PM
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This. Both my husband and I declined job offers of working at/taking over our parents' companies. We moved away to pursue careers in the arts. We scraped by but help was never more than a phone call away. "We've been broke, we've never been poor." - my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:54 PM
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Status at 22 usually equals zilch at 32 though...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 07:20 AM
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I make a lot more money than my husband. I pay the vast majority of the bills, the vacations, nights out etc. He does get me gifts when he sees something I'd like (but he gets himself plenty too- walked in from a business trip to see a new set of golf clubs in the living room last week...). His expendable income is much higher thanks to me. We dated as college kids so "dates" were Dutch and mostly pitchers of beer and burritos.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 08:35 PM
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Both my husband and I had $0 when we stared dating. Our parents had similar backgrounds/incomes, sure, but we were both broke college kids. Then we moved to a city and were broke. Got our first jobs and were still broke. After a long time, I lucked into something lucrative. At that point we'd been together for years. I'd survived on rice and beans with him, lived in studios that barely held our bed and nothing else, spent our laundry money on tall boys of beer. You think I am gonna look at this …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 05:58 PM
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In my experience, young people are crap at predicting future success. The high status guys were big fish in small ponds (bands that ended up going nowhere for example). Being a law student or pre-med wasn't a status boost- it was seen as taking the "safe" way. Many of the best careers I see actually didn't exist yet when I was in school, it would have been impossible to predict where we are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:50 PM
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I don't know why some of these dudes live in crazy town.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:43 AM
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But the question is: are they? I am talking about people who pair off in their early 20's. Those people have an average 2-3 year age difference. I never witnessed a 20 something girl give half a fuck about a man's status/money. Everyone's a romantic at that age- they care about love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:04 AM
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22 year olds usually don't have money or status. Plenty of people are pairing off before these things become solidified.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 01:52 AM
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Like all RP stuff.... there stuff will work as long as her man is a man. Just as the RPMs stuff works...as long as the woman is a woman. Agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:50 PM
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We believe that embracing traditional dynamics within our relationship yields harmony, and that mainstream relationship advice is unable to provide realistic pathways to happiness. Does this girl want "traditional dynamics"?? This is why I am confused on RPWi being presented as universal advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 04:41 PM
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Kay. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 04:31 PM
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Nope! I just like when sublime gets all professional!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 04:31 PM
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I didn't offer advise because this is not the space for it, as many other others have noted, and I LOVE RULES!! There was a reason I replied to automod and not to any particular user- I was asking about what appeared to be a pretty fundamental shift in the way RPWi was framed and who it was for. RPWi, at least as of a year ago, was saying "this is a non-religious space for male led relationships. If you don't want a male led relationship, goodbye and good luck." Their advise is tailored to a par…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 04:29 PM
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Yes you definitely weren't talking about me... You follow me around these threads because you're mad I have smoked/drink (or something) trying to get a dig at me at least once a week. It's fine. I am not upset by a clearly hurt young man lashing out, it's weird you're claiming otherwise but do you. I am not trying to personally attack you, I don't think getting mental or emotional help is a cause for shame. I read TheWalkingMenu's comment where she advised you to get help the other day and I agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 04:22 PM
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Lawyered. 🙌🏼💃🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 04:16 PM
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If you're going to try to have a "gotcha" moment, maybe take better notes?? I have been with the my husband since I was 21. Lost my virginity to him. Never got pumped and dumped. Cute try though! Now, why don't you google counselors near you and try to get the root of these issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 04:08 PM
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No. (Also: gets some emotional or mental help, man. This place is toxic for people like you.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 03:53 PM
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What if I told you: there are other places to look for advice than subreddits? 😂 Why not advise her to look for a slightly older girl in a relationship she admires? Why not advise her to read any number of relationship books? We all knew this thread was going to get modified... just confused by why RPWi would be seen as universal relationship advice when part of their wisdom as always been "this is only if you want X kind of relationship."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 03:48 PM
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I'm perplexed by the RPWives recos. There is nothing in the OP about her or her BF wanting a male led relationship... has RPWi changed that much??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:48 PM
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☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻💯
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:47 PM
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Yup! I clocked Winona too!! Those brows are hard to miss!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:18 AM
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HAHHAHA! I love this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:59 PM
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Ah. I see what you're saying. Blanks are different than seeing boredom because the actor is bored and poorly conveying "apprehension."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 09:56 PM
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I think this test is a little shoddy in that they're models/actors (of varying talent. I mean, Keanu is in there). So the emotions they are conveying are not authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 09:51 PM
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I think the OP is arguing for why he thinks people dislike when something requires training or practice. I disagree with the premise that people/women dislike when something requires training or practice. The why is neither here nor there because I disagree with his premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 09:47 PM
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Oh gotcha. I don't hear it all that often unless they are referring to someone literally much older but that may be an age/regional thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 08:23 PM
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Eh, getting a dude and keeping a dude were different skill sets for me. I sucked at dating. I got too attached too quick, I'm too intense and needy. But hey, being very attached with 0 chill isn't a negative for my husband- maybe that's an age thing or a married thing but I am better at being married than dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 07:37 PM
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Well, I dunno. I literally mean old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 07:25 PM
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No. RPers are to banana runts as naturally attractive, confident men are to ripe, delicious bananas. Online, the difference does sound that stark. Is the difference that stark IRL?? See my first comment. I dunno how the RP guys seem IRL. Online, by their own testimony, they sound oily and sad and desperate and old. So I'm gonna label them banana runts and do a hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 07:21 PM
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Is he old???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 07:00 PM
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Literally what are you talking about?? I am saying the imitation of a flavor I like is not appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 06:59 PM
2

I understand your analogy. . How does banana TRP turn a banana into a piece of candy? No. You don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 06:36 PM
2

It's literally just "fake things you can tell are fake are not good"- it's not complicated enough to be unstable. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 06:07 PM
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Nah. I have all sorts of interactions here. I'm condescending when someone acts like their lack of understanding is my responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 06:04 PM
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Somebody needs a nap!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:28 PM
3

No one else seems to be having a problem picking up what I am putting down, sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:20 PM
1

Atlas: the Regina George of PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:49 PM
2

I don't even know what lime runts taste like! I have given up on runts entirely due to the banana ones RUINING MY LIFE!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:17 PM
1

Again, I don't think women care how you get the "real thing."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:16 PM
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I'm going to ignore your questions and give you the info I think you're actually looking for. You know what I enjoy? Bananas. Especially perfectly ripe bananas, little cold. Yum! You know what I fucking hate? Banana runts. It's reminiscent of the real thing but not at all the same, gross and cloyingly sweet. RP isn't gross because it's like the real thing and we don't wanna be fooled. It's gross because it's not like the real thing. (Disclaimer: know what? Maybe these sad, ranting dudes really a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:24 AM
2

I think it's mostly that it would read as inauthentic...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:08 AM
4

Aw thank you!! (The socks really do drive me crazy but I am slowly learning to channel that into a chuckle and a little appreciation.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:03 AM
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😳
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:57 AM
5

K.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:33 AM
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This all seems a bit much. I like it when husband orders Thai food so it will arrive right after we do it and then we watch old movies. But I guess I'm not properly romaaaaahhhhhhntic enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:31 AM
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"Dying to/of oneself" is a religious term. It means giving up the selfish parts of our individual self for a better, unified whole. It's not up to our partner to decide what we give up. It's me looking at my husband's socks in the middle of the living room and choosing to reject my first instinct and to get snippy with him. Instead, I take a moment and remember him refusing to let me a carry a single bag home from the grocery store because he's "got it" and say a little prayer of thanks to the u…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:25 AM
12

I often also wonder which sex is emotionally the strongest. Who walks away the easiest from relationships, men or women? What a strange way to gauge things. I look at my sister's marriage of 20 years and my parents nearly 50 year marriage as proof of deep emotional strength of the involved parties. They're all very committed to marriage and the work that entails. My parents have been open about going to counseling. My sister and BIL are pretty religious and get guidance from their church leaders…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:11 AM
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Gross. He's more of a Richard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 12:58 AM
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🙄 y'all have to stop calling BP dudes "red pill"!!! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 12:49 AM
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Don't you guys call this "AF/BB" and declare women who avoid casual sex, lower their standards and date more conservative men literal garbage fire monsters???
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 08:22 PM
3

I mean... how shitty would that have been "Oh I did find your sweatshirt! Gave it to my new girlfriend though..." He's nicer than that!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:37 PM
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No... I tried to claim it but he insisted on mailing it back to her. She was an old friend and it was a pretty nice hoodie 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:28 PM
4

Cut to me finding another girl's hoodie under my then BF's/now husband's bed the day after losing my virginity to him... in his defense we were "on a break" 2 weeks prior when he hooked up with hoodie girl. This made me sad but he wasn't doing anything wrong. As long as he was honest and hadn't promised exclusivity at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:17 PM
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I don't agree with your beliefs but I do admire anyone trying to help others. Good on ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 04:28 PM
5

They were both under pressure!! It's the nature of meeting someone you really like in person the first time. The pressure isn't created/enforced by either person (at least not all the time or it would seem in this case) but by the scenario. Stop blaming her for the pressure created by the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 04:02 PM
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Good grief dude, why are you assigning such malice to this?? I mean... I am almost impressed with the amount of hamstering you're doing to vilify a girl who 1) repeatedly made herself sexually available, instigating even, and 2) was open and honest about not wanting to continue because she felt the relationship wasn't going anywhere physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:50 PM
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Oh god... I am rereading this. She went on the balcony so he would follow and kiss her. She clearly had a whole movie moment mapped out in her head and they bungled the whole thing. Cringey all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:34 PM
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Also- she spooned him. I am 98% this is how cave women seduced cave men it's so freaking obvious and basic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:25 PM
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Ah, my mistake, thought she flew. Regardless, everything reads like she made a move and he didn't reciprocate and her ego got bruised and continued to get bruised as he didn't escalate. I think she may have felt rejected and pushed him away because of it. Too many relationships have started with bad first kisses that the couple laughs about later for one bad kiss/ freak out to be a death sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:20 PM
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That is exactly what I was I was thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:17 PM
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I am so confused. She kissed him, he rejected her. Then they spent lots of time together where he had the opportunity to make a move... if I were her, I'd be mortified. Flying all the way to be with a guy who didn't end up wanting me anyway!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:12 PM
3

It's from Bambi!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:06 PM
8

Not everyone gets fertility. #rude
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 07:47 AM
4

Me when I hear y'alls laundry list of requirements from an SO
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 05:56 AM
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I want to believe...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 05:30 AM
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As opposed to men who value youth and everyone knows women don't age if they're super nice to everybody (even nerds)!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 05:26 AM
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Also he says he has Aspergers but is an expert on how other people (women) feel...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:59 AM
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"Women hate cake!!" said the terrible baker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:42 AM
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I will literally never understand this claim/mindset. Getting an IUD was one of the most painful experiences of my life- I am about to get another one so I can have more unprotected sex. Why would I (or women in general) do something so painful for the purpose of doing something I didn't actually enjoy???
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:33 AM
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Haha. Then why do we have it??? My husband was playing video games and I convinced him to take a "snuggle nap" (wink, wink) before work. Why would I do that if I didn't enjoy it??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:29 AM
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That they want to have sex with them. I am confused by you separating the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:23 AM
2

Then what does "attracted" mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:19 AM
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I think there is a difference in actual sexual desire and the women as a group "wooing" at dudes in a group setting. It's a totally different response...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:19 AM
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Your continued insistence that women are asexual is both wrong and confusing your argument. Before we can move forward you'll need to explain this: So I'm certain they have no desire to have sex with him. You're using this kid as an example of being attractive to women then also claiming they are not attracted to him. What do you think these girls/women want from him? Do you think they want the same thing as women want from Chris Pratt or Adam Driver or Eli Roth?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:15 AM
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It really was genius writing to put him and April together!! I just love those two!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:08 AM
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The video you linked is showing a cute kid getting attention from girls/women play acting as girls- none of the attention he was given seemed truly sexual in nature. I experienced this as I matured- I started out being twitterpated by cute boys. "Old dudes are gross! But that boy is cute! His hair is floppy, he sings in choir, I wanna hold his hand!!" And then I hit sexual maturity and started noticing men. They stopped looking old and I started to want more than hand holding. You're confusing b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:04 AM
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Her podcast is ADORABLE.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:56 AM
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The question here is whether or not women care less about their partner's looks than men do, and the answer seems to be a resounding "no". I don't think that's the question and, even if it was, your answer is wrong... Edit: and women are not asexual. Our sexuality is just expressed differently than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:54 AM
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Yup. The model look lacks the "it factor" for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:52 AM
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