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Question For RedpillMissPearl/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 01:26 PM
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It's easy, with autism, to look for a way, as if you could just learn the rules everyone else has figured out and presto, problem solved! I am going to approach from a different angle: your appearance is causing you to fixate because you have very little other agency or control in your life right now. You are a SAHM with a wee one and no financial control. And you don't speak the local language! The money part is no beuno. Unless you have a history of dangerous over spending, you need a discreti…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 05:58 AM
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In the sense of raised sans consistent male parent, yes. In the sense of my mother reproducing asexually, no, mammals are incapable of that. Is there a specific thing you want to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:32 AM
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Yes. I rather like men, as a whole and feel largely sympathetic to them, but the whole marrying a guy like married mom is a concept as curious and foreign as deciding to go out into the bush on a spirit quest, or trying to imagine what bronze aged life is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:04 AM
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And these people generally do not want a partner who also does financially well/ok for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 07:31 AM
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You are going to explain this a bit more basically, this still went fwoosh over my head. What constitutes "the provider" role?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 07:27 AM
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What is a "marriageable man"? I mean, I am not just even an extremely permissive culture's idea of a slut, I continue having a side hobby that's hypersexual and I have never had any problems being loved/finding commitment. Additionally, one of the side effects of what I do is I am adjacent to a lot of sex workers (escorts, OF models, dominatrices), many of whom are married or happily partnered. And, periodically strange men will wander in and say it's all very well for them to make a living this…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 05:25 AM
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It's actually really hard to make a financially viable OnlyFans account- the ratio of available porn to buyers is such that is requires an aggressively cultivated social media presence and advertising. Any look at the ratio of earners shows that most OF accounts don't break even for the effort the owner puts into them. And that's the really funny part about adult work- it's actually quite challenging to make a decent living out of it. Not only is it hard to maintain any copyright or control over…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 02:23 AM
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In other words you are assuming as a woman I am incapable of understanding the sexual expectations of my environment. I am saying that either all the men I know are absurdly hot by your standards or this is a regional problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 09:24 PM
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The lack of desire is in least in part because of a pleasure gap- with 10% of the female population being anorgasmic. Not to mention the whole perspective a lot of people approach sex with makes no effort to make men an object of desire or gives only the most rudimentry advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 01:56 PM
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You do realize that when no men are around women will still put effort into their visual appearance, and are brought up on frequently hypersexed rolemodels, which to a girl child exist in a realm where heterosexuality is an afterthought? I'll believe "boys!!!" are the be all and end all when whatever bobble headed monstrosity Barbie begat stop being the primary toy and the Kens and whatever are not about the same level of optional accessory as the horse or the shopping mall playset. Hell, the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 01:30 PM
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Well, first off you are vastly underestimating the amount of casual background bisexuality among women in relation to ourselves- but there are a number of reasons women dress in a sexualized or ostentatious fashion. To attract attention, sexual or otherwise. From both genders. To conform with a social expectation. For example because it is expected party wear. To display power, that they can dress in an attention getting way without experiencing negative consequences. To express and feel sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 01:12 PM
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Clickbait content churn to maintain page rank and improve ad revenue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 11:41 AM
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Probably not? Dealing with guys who are more conservative, careful and less sexual than me doesn't seem to abrogate any gender interaction hiccups. But it's a chicken and egg problem, because a lot of the misery people are experiencing is re-enforced by the norms people interact with- if you assume sex is going to be less pleasurable for the other person as a baseline you're going to only invest so much effort into that and not develop any idea of how things might work otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 11:36 AM
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It wouldn't help? I am a lazy bisexual- I prefer men but have fucked about as many women because it's easy based on my lifestyle choices. Nonetheless the vast majority of the gendered nonesense I object to is more like background radiation and less something that only comes up in love and sex. Also my granny did the lesbian seperatist thing for a while so I have first hand experience that the problem is not some inherent trait in being with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 11:30 AM
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Assuming the other person is lying of delusional is a lousy way to approach a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 09:23 PM
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Or I live in a more sexually permissive area.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 08:01 PM
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Oh yes! Completely!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 04:57 PM
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so after a few times of this I just decided to give in and fuck her whenever she wanted. For what it's worth, I'm really sorry you experienced that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 12:13 PM
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You go boiiiiii!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 12:09 PM
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Life. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 09:57 PM
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I apparently live in the land of the stunning model men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 09:56 PM
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Partner not in the mood. Partner thought this was moving way too fast (we were both virgins). Guy was gay. Guy is terrified. Guy is in complicated poly situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 11:14 AM
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So in other words in a moden society all those virtues and values amount to dosh, since none of the pressures that might make obedience and chastity useful to women are present?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 02:28 AM
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Why should I be emotional and turbulent?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 02:25 AM
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About half the guys out there enjoy being dominated, but contrary to popular stereotypes, the fantasy is a lot less sissies and latex mistresses and again, light BDSM- hand cuffed to the headboard for oral. Dark fantasies need to be defined- two partners at the same time or "ravishment" are not the same as the minority who want to be raped violently or think about death.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:27 PM
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Expanding on your point, people have a very variable idea what pleasure involves, with some people's idea of naughty being wearing lingerie and oral while other people see that as baseline. The sort of person who worries about their partner's sexuality that way is the sort of person whose sexual tastes are more in the land of stockings being edgey. But a lot of people are guilty of thinking their personal kinks are the best sexuality. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:21 PM
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Everyone says they want hot sex and a supportive partner, with the exception of a few sex negative or asexual individuals. Both are not mutually exclusive traits. The advice to become "good girl" is that if you are in a heavily anti-slut subculture, the consequences of perceived promiscuity are not worth it. That being said, if I am giving man advice to straight women, bold, independent and interested is the trifecta I propose. However good sex starts outside the bedroom and there's something to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:14 PM
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Yeah, jesus, where are people living that a blowie is a rare scarcity?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:00 PM
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It tends to come out- eg "I've never had a dick in my butt" or is implied by context. I'm not going to go over a complete history of everything I did ever because it would be tedious and irrelavent. But there aren't a lot of guys in immediate proximity who are terrified by "I think my deep throating needs work". Or "I'm sort of a sexual libertine, so while you are dick number four in my vadge and five in my mouth, my overall n count explodes wildly when you expand the definition of sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 01:09 PM
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I find it disappointing when I get "You're not 22?!" I do a lot of volunteering with younger adults and yes the hope and promise glow is very nice, but OMG you could not pay me to go back.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 12:35 PM
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My anecdotal experience at the apparent wall (whee!) follows that I have lost a huge pile of guys with daddy fetishes who wanted me for casual sex or some kind of daughter wife. I continue to get romantic interest from guys ranging from 19 to senior. However there's a whole pool of guys who have an equivalent level of having their shit together, who are starting to think about investing that in kids or at least realestate. All the youthful pathos is being given a healthy dose of perspective and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 12:31 PM
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The one that tends to make me entertained is the flip between women having an obligation to be attractive, but that anything that helps them acheive it is witchcraft. So on the one hand some manosphere writers talk about horrible short haircuts and piercings and no makeup, and on the other hand another group hates the way they try to control men by being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 09:31 PM
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Plain. Unremarkable. Normal. Neither pleasing nor displeasing to the eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 09:21 PM
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Yeah, I tend to get the boomerang guy in my inbox a lot, not here but in other locations: "Hey, you are so beautiful, let's explore the sexual pleasures together!" "No thanks." "Are you sure?" "Yes." "WARRGLE BARRGLE!" In real life I've dealt with either street harassment, which in Montreal is generally pretty tame (guys here know better), or the occasional guy who will be up in my personal space until I run away- for some reason the biggest man magnet is if I draw in public, as apparently a gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:27 PM
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Honestly, if I'm in a nostalgic mood I am more likely to boot up Colonization in Dosbox. I think I liked the trading Sim aspect best more than city spamming, although I admit I've gotten super into Stardew Valley.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 02:19 PM
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The reception on your oil rig is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 01:31 PM
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http://www.oecd.org/gender/data/balancingpaidworkunpaidworkandleisure.htm I did you a google- there's more on this line but I'm on my phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 11:53 AM
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I believe the point they are making is the traits are inherently contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 11:40 AM
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I enjoyed 1 and 2, but I never could get into any of the versions past 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 11:39 AM
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Oil Rigs, last I checked, refuse to employ women because it would require making dormitory accomodations. It makes a nice talking point, but you can't really find women accountable for what they are actively prevented from doing. Be that as it may, my oil and gas comes from inland sources as well, which do employ women. My power is hydroelectric, which employs women. If you are from the US, as a Canadian, we are your top supplier of oil courtesy of having more than our share of this resource, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 11:33 AM
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Yeah, don't come here. Too cold. Brrr.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 11:15 AM
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What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 04:35 PM
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So to summarize, MRP says they are marriage agnostic and you believe they are pro-marriage with tenuous RP ties? Does this make them effectively heretics?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 02:31 PM
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I think one should read what someone says in good faith, given that the rest of his post was promarried for old guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:46 PM
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He wasn't saying that, he was saying that he personally makes a disapproving face if she's over 28 and still a girlfriend, and that he personally thinks marriage was the right financial and life balance choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:36 PM
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Would you say it's a lot closer to dealing with the cards life dealt you (eg if you already got a mortgage on a house you can't sell, learning to do house repairs rather than bankruptcy) or does it lean more to the marriage having been a good choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:30 PM
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If people treat you poorly, the solution is to get them fired or sue them in some way. Being low status, among many things, means you have less access to leverage that would let you do that. Whether explicit caste systems or rank hierarchy, or the implicit lack of access that goes with being part of a persecuted/disapproved of group, that's like saying that poor people just need to spend more money and all their problems would go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:28 PM
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So the difference is in implied life priority and the marriage part is an incidental thing that guys that age tend to be married? Or that marriage is a priority for older persons? Are there older MRP members who are not married?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:03 PM
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can't you technically phrase any interaction between humans as 'manipulative'? You could, but you would be disingenuous to what people mean when they call TRP "manipulative".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 12:22 PM
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Logical. Which still has nothing to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 10:10 AM
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How am I more emotional, since you brought this up in relation to what I said? What specific evidence are you using other than "lol, no!" responses?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 02:33 AM
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No, you need to address my actual points for me to take you seriously, which you have yet to do. Making spurious claims about my life (eg expense of commitment) and calling me delusional are both unacceptable arguments if this has anything to do with logic. I will be clear, I'm not mad. I just disagree based on the previous premises I stated and don't accept what boils down to "lol, sweetie no". You have not effectively challenged anything I believe in or addressed any challenges to your own bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:57 AM
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You are not actually providing and counter arguements, just calling me delusional. Which is not a strong position to hold if you are claiming the higher ground of rationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:26 AM
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That's not an arguement it's a series of poorly assembled personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 12:45 AM
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You have to actually back your assertion with evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 12:08 AM
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I've been masturbating pretty steadily since I was twelve, with a consistant average of an orgasm and a half a day between the ages of 14 and 27, which implies I must be bloody well bonded to myself like super glue. I have had one solely partner induced orgasm in all that time and I'd been in love with him for a year and a half before hand. Meanwhile 10% of women appear to be completely anorgasmic, with many women never experiencing it until their 30s or later despite frequent sex. For women sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 05:12 PM
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I don't need to love someone to sexually interface with them. Handling a guy's genitals is cheap, dating him is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 05:07 PM
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That's a no true Scotsman arguement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 05:05 PM
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Riiiiiiight. And did I claim I was special? No, I claimed I was normal. If I were a special snowflake I'd be saying it was true except for me. We go through this a lot, a certain segment of TRP does the thing of assuming penises are magical tools that we women always bond with like a piece of progressively less sticky tape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 05:03 PM
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I want to settle down with a guy who has a nasty autoimmune ailment, which may lower his lifespan by a decade and the women in my family live a long time. If he has until his early 70s and I have reasonable odds of making it to 90+.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 04:41 PM
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He assumed that every sex act was "the one" at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 02:26 PM
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Actually no, my partner count was not serial, I am a sexual libertine who did a lot of threesomes, etc... I was in a six year relationship that ended after severe sleep deprivation of me, physical abuse, etc... Now I'm in a 3 year one discussing marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 02:23 PM
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Shrug it off. There already are a subset of guys who would never want a relationship with me for the variables I listed, and at the age of 18 I found the barely legal fetishists repulsive because I didn't (want to) embody their fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 02:20 PM
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Improbable? Like a completely alien thing that never happens. Probably intensely confused unless I could see a clear reason why she was popular. Like I guess if I was trapped on an island of conservative anti slut Christians or BDSM doms, or I got some sort of head injury and got attracted only to the men who vastly prefer teenagers regardless of their age? Wrong body type? I'd probably just get a dog and become a spinster. S'cool, I'm probably going to spend the last decade to fifteen years of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 12:42 PM
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My high partner count has removed neither my ability to bond hard, nor the desire of men to commit to me. I'm just one of those stars in her eyes romantics, and despite being a libertine weirdo, this has always been a selling point. To be frank, though, I think I'm a lot more bonded to my current partner than the guy I lost my virginity to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 12:30 PM
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As far as competition, friendly or otherwise, my urge to make comparisons tends to be piqued by my values. A clever person who knows stuff and is socially well connected. Streetwise, life of the party or social politician- all inspire competition in me. A person with both creative talent, but more importantly, creative skill. I both respect the effort involved and greatly value this, whatever the art. An athletically competent person. Admiration for women who are physically talented and dedicate…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 12:05 PM
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http://policeprostitutionandpolitics.net/pdfs_all/GOVERNMENT%20REPORTS%20US%20Justice%20Dept%20stats%20SEE%20ALSO%20TRAFFICKING%20ALL/Rape%20and%20Sexual%20Abuse%20Adults%20Including%20Rapes%20in%20Prison/Sex%20Offenses%20and%20Offenders_%20An%20Analysis%20of%20Data%20on%20Rape%20and%20Sexual%20Assault%20-%20MINCAVA%20Electronic%20Clearinghouse.pdf On aquaintance rape VS stranger rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 11:44 AM
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The idea is that if you display psycho aggressive body language you look less like a soft target. Other women are very territorial about their right to scowl for the same reason- hence some of the undercurrents of frustration of being told to "smile" on the street. Like stranger danger for kids not focusing on the actual likely perpatrators of child assault, amped up hyperawareness about that tends to take the focus off improval of more complex problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 11:37 AM
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Then they shouldn't go around fucking people if they have no way of measuring enthusiasm. This is not a complicated subject, people who want to have sex can talk about it. "Rapist" is not a common diagnostic criteria on the autism spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 11:25 AM
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It's really true, much how other assaults happen most often from people you actually know. Your relationship partner, as a woman, is statistically the most dangerous person in your life. In turn she's the most dangerous woman you know, just based on the odds of women who might murder you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 11:21 AM
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If we were talking animal kingdom, the lesser status primates use kindness to cuckold the dominant males- escaping territorial squabbling for affectionate, reciprocal hookups, in the case of some species like baboons, right under the alpha's nose. As far as 'low status' people being treated poorly, that's the definition of being low status. People treat you poorly, both men and women. But being lower status is not the same as low. And there's a giant begged question oriented around assuming that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 11:16 AM
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I am a pretty good girlfriend, and I've had sex with 10 people while interacting with so many more in a sexual fashion I literally don't have an exact count. I'm a libertine, a pervert and more than a little bit of an exhibitionist. It in no way alters my ability to nurture and love. It mean partners can assume more chances for threesomes. It means a creative definition for fidelity expectations that gives a lot of leeway- no bitching about porn, flirting with others, etc... It also means a sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 03:13 AM
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ಠ_ಠ
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 04:55 PM
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Feminists are great just as long as they aren't fat or ugly See, one of the thing that goes with being feminist is that I make this face at you when you say things like that: ಠ_ಠ
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 04:06 PM
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Possibly for the same reason she's a college senior who doesn't own a computer? She has never even masturbated before meeting him and starts doing it spontaneously with his shampoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:56 AM
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1) I'm into femdom and men trying to control me repells me. 2) I would like to eventually marry. 3) I have short hair (as of 2 hours ago) and the tips are still green. 4) I'm a sexual libertine and have had sex with 10 people, 5 of each gender, plus am heavily involved with the fetish scene? 5) Feminist. 6) Vain as fuck. I like myself and my appearance most of the time. Lots of primping and self fluffing. I think expanding more would be TMI.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:20 AM
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Yeah, yeah, either I'm an uggo bog beast or a liar, I know it's painful to imagine that someone could GM a call of Cthulhu LARP, play D&D once a week and be female without also having a hideous facial deformity, but you're just going to have to accept the truth. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 02:14 AM
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He loves me, I love him. <3 I am so not a TRP dream girl it isn't funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 01:49 AM
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I unno, if I am like a type, we tend to be in solid, stable LTRs in the midst of the kink scene. Look for the bossy woman with the maternal streak? TRP wouldn't like me though- I just came back from the hair dresser where I got an inverted asymmetrical bob. Totally lost 5 inches of hair, which I am told is a crime against humanity. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 12:44 AM
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I'm sorry, you don't see vaguely queer/normcore styled musicians having sex? Do you hang out with queer styled normcore leaning people? I don't think I have ever had sex with a six footer or a guy with a tattoo and my BMI is bang on normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 12:17 AM
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The second best lay I ever had was an obese guy who was briefly a call of duty pro player. Loved that kid, but he was too young to last. Hope he's still having hot kinky hookups with girls- I think I would have a hard time staying attracted to a non-nerd. What would we talk about? Met Gentleman at a Larp, although I think he's amazing looking. But nice try with the "you don't really mean it unless they are Chad". :P
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 12:10 AM
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I've frequented some BDSM circles, and the male doms always outnumber the male subs. What a co-incidence, I'm heavily involved with the BDSM community too and this isn't the case. Must be a regional thing. :D To be precise the numbers are close enough not to say Doms utterly Dominate the field. A recent study of around 700 men and the same amount of women (done in Quebec, just incidentally) found 53% of men fantasized about being sexually dominated, while 60% of the same group said they had fant…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:29 PM
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It's going to make the next 4 to 8 years incredibly awkward if he's elected and grow my country's already pretty scathing streak of anti-Americanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 03:43 PM
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You're just mad I know more about "degenerate" things than you. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:34 PM
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Meanwhile, women eat 50SOG up. If you actually read that book (which you didn't) there is 0 "degradation" of the female protagonist. That's not the kink subset that's explored, it wasn't Story of O or Venus in Furs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:27 PM
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Just because a small minority of men enjoy getting beaten does not mean that most men are into that degenerate shit. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Oh my sweet summer child. Yeah, no, the rates of guys who want a little spank and tie are reliably high. That's not even getting into the guys who like it rough as fuck, or enjoy a choke in the bedroom. As much as we snicker about CEOs in panties, a much more common permutation is "she wants my cock so bad she assaults me for it".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:16 PM
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Yeah, they're not really in a position to hurt me, because I'm not the target market. A lot of the PUA stuff has always, at it's core, been about seducing men with either the painfully obvious or outright snake oil, to take their money. It's less honest than pimping, which at least gets someone laid. They're relatively savage about any man who doesn't fit into their narrow idea of appropriate masculinity- while their worst at me is "I won't marry you, you are a sloot", to the subset of men they …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:54 PM
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What's really curious to me about this is that male-centric media doesn't seem to glorify the "bad girl" the same way. As far as general female characteristics that consistently show up in, it's the woman being hot or cute.. No, there's a definite tendency to make the hot chick have a capacity for violence that exceeds the norm, even if she's a heroine- and a dangerously sexy woman is a pretty standard story trope. You get less roles for women over all (they have less speaking parts), but you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:26 PM
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Don't really care about your beef with Whisper(although I am kinda interested to hear more) Rubber necking on my part. I generally try not to drag the bitchcraft out into the shared space beyond snark, but it was a personal to the heart manifesto on his part, so it seemed like a bit more personalization from me was appropriate there. As I said, I could be doing him wrong with a horrible case of mistaken identity. something about dating and sex inspires passions on both sides. Sex (and love) is c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 02:27 PM
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Dude, you brought my gender into it, not me. and unlike my gender, your level of red pill affiliation is something you chose. Nobody made you decide that. You already do this with your friends, acquaintances and family. You are conflating friend and acquaintance, because you are confusing "be nice to" with "friend". I demonstrably am nice to TRP people all the time. "To make a friend you close one eye, to keep a friend, you close two." I'm a big believer in taking as much as the world as I can w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 01:26 PM
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Yeah, no. You're not moving any Overton windows, you're clinging to the same shtick you've ran for over a decade as you lose increasing territory in the mainstream for the one thing you do that people have any meaningful objection to. I mean, let's review your "what I stand for!" list... Lifting weights? Bog standard activity in /r/fitness. not under threat. Hell, xxfitness likes it a lot too. Classic cars? Quaint, but again, not a marginalized group. It puts you in the company of Dita von Tesse…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 01:16 PM
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You're still helpfully proving my point- you aren't worthy of my friendship because sooner or later someone would be frank about their feelings, you'd feel personally injured, and then whip your unpleasant opinions out. If you were a friend I'd call you on it, you'd say "but my beliefs!" and I'd terminate the friendship. I have yet to see TRP demonstrate enough scope the way I do religions or other belief systems I might not subscribe to but have a live and let live policy about. Believe it or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:12 AM
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There was both the classics (A Little Princess, Little House On The Prairie), scifi and fantasy theifed from my parents, French comics (Tintin, Asterix), and Diana Wynne Jones, Joan Aiken, and many, many more authors whose names escape me now. I was a precocious and voracious reader, so quickly moved into stuff written for adults, although my cohort grew up with Harry Potter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 02:41 AM
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It really strongly depends on your group of girls, but while we are still playing, our games and toys tend to be oriented around dolls and telling a story through them, and craft kits, usually in bright pastels. We also had all sorts of girl oriented activities- science camp and brownies (blob tag! Moar craftz!) and of course reading. The other distinction I remember about being a girl was that we were supposed to mature way faster- there being less permission to self indulge in the physical and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 02:28 AM
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The irony of your last line did not occur to you, did it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 02:06 AM
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You seem awfully bothered by someone disliking you for what you believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 01:17 AM
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It feels good? Like there's something deeply satisfying in torturing someone to the point of incoherence that's like few other sensations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 09:51 PM
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Male or female? Sexual orientation? Female, prefer guys but do both. Relationship status? Relationship preference (spinning plates, marriage, poly, LTR etc)? Purple, blue, red or non-pill? LTR, feminist sexual libertine. :P What are your personal ‘red-flags’? These are things (behaviors, traits etc) that indicate to you that the other person may not be worth pursuing. Pushy, aggressive and mean. What are your deal-breakers? These are the behaviors and traits etc that make you ‘next’ someone. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 07:20 PM
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You don't brigade, you aren't in the midst of a harassment campaign and you don't make lots of mainstream negative publicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 02:27 PM
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Can a plate earn commitment? What must they do to get the upgrade? See, that's a stacked question, because monogamy isn't always a top value state or an end goal for every person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 02:00 PM
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You can be red pill and also a "nice" guy for want of a better word. You can certainly be red pill and courteous. Okay, but I'm not calling them all assholes, indeed I just made the argument that courtesy is possible even when you disagree. Indeed my point was never that TRPs are hostile and pushy all the time with everyone. What I did say was that I don't like it, and by extension it's unlikely that I'm going to like someone who subscribes to said beliefs with any meaningful level of attachment…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 01:27 PM
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If RPWi is to be believed, if it is dumb enough, leave the marriage. They're not anti-divorce, just the scope of seperation inducing choices are, in their perspective, of heavier magnitude than the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 11:47 AM
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This comes up from time to time- RP people asking why bloops don't like them. People point to specific examples and then TRP moderates make the buffet of advice arguement. From my perspective you're still hanging out with and taking advice from a bunch of dinks, drips, idiots and performance artists in hyperbolic shock value sexism. It's a thorny subject, because "I don't like or admire you" is a hurtful statement for a lot of people to hear. When previously approaching the subject, people on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 11:12 AM
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Men aren't trying to get "as much sex as they can get" by default. Loads of them who can get multiple sexual partners prefer one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 10:36 AM
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Nerdy shit, kinky sex related things, serendipity through the internet, highschool. Gentleman and I met at a LARP and then after several months of chaste friendship with zingy chemistry, he was single, so I jumped him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 02:19 AM
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Do you mean like intimate friends, or do you mean co-operative aquaintances? The fact that I can hold a civil conversation here should suggest that I could have a 'friendly' relationship. I think I would have a hard time trusting a guy who thought I was many of the things RP abscribes to my gender and I refuse to think I'm special. If I actually thought my rights were being revoked (or even endangered) I'd be a lot less ah... Open. And probably really hostile. But if we were coworkers and the gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 02:11 AM
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No, my lady hookups have all been chill, awesome women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 01:59 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 06:03 PM
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I'm not saying everyone is going to marry, I'm saying that it's not realistic to assume everyone can or will. Not only is it a huge waste of resources because of the duplication of material goods (there's a huge cost saving for both of us for my partner and I to bunk up), but not every person is 100% able bodied and employed at all times, even leaving aside the production of kids, and marriages also provide mutual care and support. Sure living apart is a thing. You could it that way- this is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 05:49 PM
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Okay, so you're a radical feminist. :P Seems like that cartoon is about a guy who didn't want to have kids. However, what I was saying was... The economic reality is that some version of marriage will keep cropping up as long as people move in together- in my neck of the woods not getting married in the traditional sense is the norm and it has alleviated none of the stuff that is complained about, only creating a separate marriage-lite through how the local law interprets common law. Marriage wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 05:24 PM
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Men don't care about how much money a woman makes with regard to if he's willing to have sex (reproduce) with her or not. But there are varying degrees of preference in whom they knock up and how widely they sire offspring that is not directly correlated to opportunity, because some people prefer to have a few children with lots of individual investment and some prefer to have a lot, and put little attention into them (or have a passle and only invest in a few). And of course some of both gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 04:38 PM
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In an ideal world, no one would marry. So you would be free to earn and live large or save and invest as you see fit. You would have romantic relationships in your life, but everyone would admire people in longer lasting relationships and look down on people who hook up with strangers. No money changes hands Except it does, because households don't exist with a twin bed and one of each for everyone. A marriage is just a formalized version of "this is your non-genetic family, here are the obligat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 02:58 PM
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Would the expansion and/or strengthening of Covenant Marriage be a good thing No, I think you should make dissolution more painless. The legal role of marriage is to help with the natural tendency for persons to form households based on a romantic/sexual relationship. There are some things that are just fucked- there's no practical way to do the child custody thing that doesn't leave someone miserable when you start needing to slice up a family in real life (but this is the case outside of marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 02:53 PM
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My argument is not that violence is not inherently sexy- men also find violent capable women arousing, for example. It's that the complaining about women liking "thugs" or "felons" is a stacked perspective. People in the lower echelons of society generally have more kids- but this doesn't mean people find poor, often unhealthy people more sexy, as much as uncontrolled reproduction is a symptom of both despair and poor impulse control. This is not about preparing for a society collapse (evolution…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 02:38 PM
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shrugs The average salary for a person in Canada is a bit more than 40K, although this occupies a curve that just some industries well below that. But marrying yourself a nice lady engineer seems good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:41 PM
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and only men with a killer's instinct survive Killing, while potentially traumatic for the killer, occupies a broader space than just persons of criminal origin. Plenty of successful soldiers are in fact the opposite of a criminal, orderly and in control. Indeed the more successful find ways to inflict violence without ending up getting hammered by the social mores of your culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:34 PM
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Ah, you're in the dowry school of marriage. I'm not in disagreement of that sort of thinking, although it means you would definitely be pushing marriage back to an older woman rather than an early 20s woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:31 PM
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It's not in women's nature to be [...] feminine. fem·i·nine ˈfemənən/ adjective 1. having qualities or appearance traditionally associated with women, especially delicacy and prettiness. "a feminine frilled blouse" synonyms: womanly, ladylike; 2. GRAMMAR of or denoting a gender of nouns and adjectives, conventionally regarded as female. noun 1. the female sex or gender. "the association of the arts with the feminine" So I take it you're one of those people who doesn't believe in inherent gender,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:27 PM
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And gets to father the kids. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:22 PM
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I don't understand the bolded part. They mean that there's surprisingly little emphasis on "we're not have PiV so I gave her a lick/ quality time with the hitachi". The suggestion is that you're not getting anything other than duty sex because you are bad at sex, and guys with this problem are self selecting for women who aren't very sexual, because the ones who are hold you to higher standards in the bedroom. I'm not going to lie, as a slutty libertine, your perspective on sex feel grim and joy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:21 PM
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I feel like this thread keeps going back to why TRP feels men shouldn't marry while neglecting that obviously high value, no matter how it is reasonably defined (fuckable, powerful, etc...) men do marry. Beyond that, if you LTR you are going to get enmeshed assets and you are going to need to trust that person, eventually possibly with your life. You are going to have to make medical choices for each other- I was a year into dating Gentleman and bam, I was at his hospital bedside for 30 hours an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 02:18 AM
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Wut? Is this one of those things that makes sense only if you are from your immediate social circle? Because the wealthy, popular and powerful include recreational occasional pot smokers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:22 AM
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I am going to argue with you here- I am a control freak. Aggressive, assertive and dominant. And I don't do that thing where I put it all aside to surrender in the bedroom. However, I cannot have a healthy, trusting relationship if I can't be confident in my partner's own capacities including to know we're fine if I can't. Don't submit if it isn't you, but don't mistake self selecting for incompetence around you for manditory leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 12:09 AM
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Clearly the only solution is to wife sluts. :3
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 11:42 PM
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I know, he was so violated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 10:49 PM
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I don't think I've ever been in a relationship where a guy wanted duty sex. The interest TRP has in servicing a guy the way you might pack his lunch or faithfully do the laundry is a fascinatingly alien perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 10:29 PM
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Yes, not being directly involved, I lack an accurate perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 09:32 PM
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Oh shit yeah. First time Gentleman and I hooked up, just before the clothes came off, and he gave me this look to affirm everything was a-ok... It's pretty much at the top of the list of Pearl's most magical moments ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 09:27 PM
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Migrained people should not have internet, apparently. At it's face, nice honest and tactful requests whenever seem like a good idea. However guess culture is not about expecting the other person to be telepathic as much as understanding the appropriate context questions might exist in. A hyperbolic example is the unsolicited sales pitch- that's "ask" culture to the extreme. Very few people have the headstate to receive rejection and be zen about it- while guess culture is also about anticipatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 08:45 PM
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Be up front and forthright (with tact!) and you're more likely to have an amicable relationship. Thing about guessers is there's a lot more demand about intuitive empathy. My partner and I are both guessers, and while it's not a good 100% strategy, the ability to feel things out while allowing people to save face, is, for example a pretty key flirting skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 05:57 PM
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if either of us asks the other for something, the other person will, 99% of the time, do it. Which means we often don't ask for things, lest the other person unwillingly fulfill it. I'm seeing Ask VS Guess culture here: http://www.thewire.com/national/2010/05/askers-vs-guessers/19730/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 05:41 PM
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In addition to the unrelated bossy personality, I'm dominant in the sadomasochistic sense, and this preference bleeds over into what I find attractive- eg there's nothing more masculine, in my perception, as a man in pain or vulnerable. This tends to express itself as a hurt/comfort thingee and some improbably high drama and florid fiction. Contrary to popular belief, I do not have an FLR and my partner doesn't identify as submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 04:50 PM
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So you would say for a man to be willing to consider marriage she would need other traits? Can you give me some examples of things outside of femininity that would be absolute requirements?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 04:15 PM
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I think she means socially with other people, not dominant like me. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 03:27 PM
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When her dad is rich and you need his gold and soldiers to secure your bid for the throne. Yaye, I'm wife material! @_@
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:46 PM
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The TRP position on Marriage is (and always has been) that it is a sub-optimal strategy for men that they should avoid Are there any cases where you shouldn't avoid it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:34 PM
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Ah. And back to my edit: What role do you see monogamy playing in heterosexual relationships? Co-habitation? How would you prefer to handle shared property, inheritance and offspring? Also: Do you expect an exchange of fidelity or mono-directional fidelity? What is your position on LTRs relative to female partner count?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:32 PM
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That would be a stupid, confusing label. Can you elaborate on how it is impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:23 PM
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Common law marriage is absolute bullshit Okay, so from that, just to make sure I understand, would you say it would be accurate to describe TRP as a MGTOW group? (edit, hit "save" too soon) What role do you see monogamy playing in heterosexual relationships? Co-habitation? How would you prefer to handle shared property, inheritance and offspring?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:20 PM
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Thanks wingnut! It's all too easy to miss the finer details when you're not part of the group. Would you like to expand on that then? If not trad-con, how would your define yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:09 PM
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The little guy is in school these days, so that helps. Possibly time to start weaning him off you guy's bedroom then. I assumed you meant a pre-verbal poppet for co-sleeping, but that's old enough to start learning that parental bonds are also special and need privacy. /unsolicited parenting advice Anyway, thanks for engaging in conversation on this. It's interesting, though I can imagine it's probably frustrating/depressing to deal with my lack of forward action on this in order to engage, lol …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 12:47 PM
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I think you're talking about the recent RPW/TRP doctrine split, right? So we've established that core TRP thinks marriage is heresy. And I think what you are trying to discuss is if a male directed relationship is viable as a global concept without all the expectations of trad-con. Is this correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 11:20 AM
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I take him out to breakfast every Sunday.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 10:40 PM
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As I've said before, I never realized how much of a Captain/First Officer dynamic our marriage had until I became the proverbial "drunk captain." It became much more clear in the absence of my "captainship" than it ever was while I was actually being a "captain" (at which time I would have sworn that we had an egalitarian relationship, lol). You didn't become a drunk captain, the boat started sinking. Sounds like Captain has been running around filling holes and pumping more so than Captain fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 08:16 PM
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if men weren't sexually interested in women do you think they would still look for physical intimacy with them? I don't think gay men do all that with women but maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, I know cuddly gay men. However they tend to be cuddle addicts who can't get enough physical contact- generally it's straight guys who are most starved for any kind of physical contact because they can't get much in the way of touching without sex or their sexuality being questioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 06:59 PM
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Yes, but do you want to lead?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 01:12 PM
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That's an unreasonable limit (cunning? like Bismarck?), but even leaving aside the monarchs, you have people like Florence Nightengale, mother of modern nursing and hospital reformer. The abolition movement is chock full of female visionaries, as is the progressive movement of the Victorian era as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 10:31 AM
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My menstral period, while inconvenient, is not the magical teaching tool you suppose it to be. Are you sure you are not projecting, based on your perspective, how I feel about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 01:47 AM
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Queen Elizabeth I, who took a country with a debased currency and intense religious strife, as well as complicated politics and led her country into a golden age? Empress Maria Theresa of Austria, reformer in medicine, government and education. Two dynastic wars, heirs in every royal family and oh yes, early champion of vaccination. Isabella of Castille, queen in her own right (co-ruler) who funded Columbuses voyage, is your Elon Musk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 01:41 AM
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We don't have that kind of rapport.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 09:26 PM
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Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 08:39 PM
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What kind of panties you got on? ಠ_ಠ
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 08:27 PM
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Still I win and you lose. I'll sign a social contract. But not one this bad. And once it's gone it's gone. I can do whatever I want. I reject your social contract. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8qcccZy03s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 08:18 PM
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how did you get over that kind of thing? I was raised to be as slutty as possible, with the advice to be gentle with men's hearts because they may assume that you want to date them if you fuck them, and be hurt if you don't. I don't have advice to overcome sex guilt other than maybe to talk to a therapist like you would any other anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 08:11 PM
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Yes, but what do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 07:45 PM
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"You should save sex for marriage. If a guy has any sexual interest in you and he's not going to marry you first, he's a bad man who will break your heart."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 07:38 PM
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It strongly depends on his relationship to me. I have a party trick where I can pick guys up and sometimes spin them around- sub 200 lbs and I can manage a hoist. But I ALWAYS ask, because such behaviour is at best boorish and at worst threatening unless I'm actively at the play wrestle stage of comfort with someone. As far as being overtly sexual, again context matters. If he starts trying to initiate by way of asking I'm going to thump a mother fucker. If he's a friend and mentions an interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 07:35 PM
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Gosh, that never occurred to me!!! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 06:57 PM
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How does that make us ass hats? "Oldest teenager in the house" ring any bells?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 06:46 PM
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Well, I do have my way with the panniers and muslin. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 06:38 PM
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Bah, you wigless sans culottes! Get out of my receiving parlour and take your ironshod steed with you, I'm trying to conduct a salon here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 06:28 PM
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I really don't think anyone is buying this at a fetish shop. Evidently you have never been in a fetish shop that caters to people who are attracted to men. Heels make dat ass look better, and your legs longer. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3d/a7/a3/3da7a3701223069380c3cd0d82407235.jpg https://blantonn.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/rigaud_hyacinthe_-_louis_xiv_roi_de_france.jpg Badonka donk!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 06:10 PM
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And my racing leathers are the least flattering piece of attire known to man. Jesus dude, you literally buy that shit at fetish shops. Do you know nothing about how people look at you? Leave it to a straight guy to forget his body is as sexual as a woman's body. I also assume you NEVER wear a suit. Right? A top piled haircut? Pfft, shave your head "high and tight" is shamelessly adding height and changing the shape of your head you lying liar. What do you need that hair for at all if it's just c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 04:06 PM
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Oh, I get that. It's a competition. If everyone is using steriods...the only way you're going to be able to play ball is to follow suit. It's still deception. I'm sure you never cut your hair or beard and run around naked or in form fitting clothing. :D Outside of that, if you can't handle a nuanced conversation on human expectations I think we're just talking past each other. Yes, women are lying liars who make your penis hard against your will. We even fucking SMILE when we're not happy. The a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:29 PM
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On the other hand there's social pressure to do a lot of the things we get accused of doing- depending on your office culture things like make up are seen as "professional" more so than a means to try to trick someone. And got help me if I have visible body hair- it's eyebrows, eyelashes and head hair only. Gendered norms aren't fair. And if it's know you're wearing a water bra, it's going to be treated as inherently ridiculous. The best you can hope for is to have it put in the same category as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 02:18 PM
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I think that also hits into how much you see appearance as effort exerted to communicate and how much you see appearance as "you are only allowed soap and water, and even then we should be allowed to sense your natural musk ye lyin' hoar!". Your so called lizard brain will also react differently to her shirt colour and the aforementioned big hat. And if she says "fuck" a lot, and if her body language is deliberately extra positive. So like, I probably should not tell a guy "if you have sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 02:05 PM
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Eyebrows = popehat. But if it isn't being mistaken for "real" (as per the lady with bolt ons) it's not deception now, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 01:46 PM
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The idea is that it's not the norm to judge someone by their merits, no matter how much it's ideal, so companies actively have to advertise they will. Given the known role things like networking play in hiring, it would be wrong to assume that hiring is ever based on pure merit. And it's within living memory that women would get turned away from a job because they should be looking after a husband. That was the shit my grandmother dealt with. Today things are better, but things don't flip over w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 01:43 PM
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Hate is such a strong word. If you are asking my emotional feeling on the subject matter, and you want negativity, any group that endorses the idea that I should be treated as perpetually childlike contains more then it's fair share of asshats, but you're a reactionary offshoot of a mainstream that's pushed you out of the dialogue about sexuality and gender relations- so you don't fit my threshold of feeling you impose on me in any way, shape or form. Sometimes you say things that are unintentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 01:26 PM
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And the orgional question was why a straight person would transition, so I was simplifying. Probably overall there's a bias towards straight-trans as I know that in years past it could be challenging to get a doctor to sign off if you weren't, although I am working from media written for trans persons because my life is overall absurdly full of gender fluid people, trans people, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 10:37 AM
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Correction- outside of regions like Iran there is no reason to assume a trans* person must be interested in the opposite sex than what they transition to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 10:53 PM
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Hmmm, I took a few days to think of a response to that... I think 99% of your problem is that kids suck the joy out of everything. Yes, it's wonderful, magical and special thing to make life and sustain it to adulthood, but there goes all your emotional energy. From people who do have kids, what helps them is not what you are doing now, where you are both trying to focus on the shared project at the expense of everything else, but if you don't carve out space for yourself it turns into a martyrs…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 12:33 PM
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Trans* does not have a connection with orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 11:32 AM
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Okay, but there's a big difference between my FLR where I was the dom round the clock and my relationship now: "You're getting a Christmas tree" "Ok. :(" VS "I'd like to get a Christmas tree. I know you aren't a fan of holidays, but would you be willing to help me bring it home?" And then in the latter case he sat in the car as an act of general protest while I ran around the tree lot like a gleeful idiot. We do egalitarian- he has his money, I have my money and we pool a percent of what we need…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 01:19 PM
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I've already explained to you that trans* people include those who do not want to change their body into an exact binary gender opposite. Where the notion comes from is probably due to the way we assign certain traits into one gender category or another- for example a couple of days ago we had a thread where a bunch of women discussed how "male" their brains were. The ability to have that conversation requires gender to be understood as something fluid. Different cultures handle gender different…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 12:47 PM
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Them. You also get people who hate a body part or can't stand some aspect of their appearance to the point of pathology. Luckily gender is way more fungiable than having a desire to be an amputee.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 03:24 AM
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I think if I started unilaterally swinging my weight around I would get bitten. As much as I tend to set priorities, he isn't going anywhere he doesn't want to go and not just in the consent sense but also in the punching-the-ocean not effecting the tide sense of his ability to be his own person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 02:53 AM
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Depends on the trans person. Some of them feel their gender identity needs to match their plumbing. Some just want to change some details but are happy with the existing plumbing or want to change one thing- for example transmen don't usually bother with our surgical attempts at fake dicks, but masectomies are more common. Having two queer, biologically female aquaintances who went the lop off the tits route, as a cisgendered woman even I can see the appeal. :P Thus you have binary trans persons…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 02:38 AM
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Well... When we're not being disgustingly cute... I don't nag/micromanage- there's nothing in our life that would need me to do that. But I do tend to be a lot more intense about stuff and make a lot more descisions- I experience it that I generally have an idea and then he takes the idea and makes it work better than I expected. It's not barking orders as much as having a Plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 02:20 AM
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I don't have an FLR though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 01:28 AM
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I'd venture to say your "Gentleman" had no idea how to be dominate. Snrk He's a switch. But that particular auto correct is like a running gag in BDSM circles. He is gonna be a sad sack if you ever leave him though. Probably, but he won't lack for sex. I imagine he'd miss the back rubs though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:05 PM
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The thread talks about someone edgelording about punishing women for trying to be in med school by being intentionally hostile.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:42 PM
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True, but then it was probably impossible for me to do so given the conditions that are considered acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:50 PM
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Most men have no idea what the fuck they are doing, and I also have a puzzle box vagina. It took me a year, with all the biofeedback my body gave me, to have my second orgasm after I got my first.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:27 PM
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That was pretty much the conclusion- the premise I went into was that one person (egads, months and months ago) was suggesting that this was ideal for most folks. I am pretty sure Gentleman is an amazing match for me. The test was because A) it was easy to test a premise rather than just keep it in the abstract and B) if I was wrong, I'd be wrong to deny Gentleman a better relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:04 PM
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No where does RPW claim to be able to get you more sex. Well screw that then. ;) Again, it is because you follow what he wants. But he also follows what I want. For example when we started living together, his place was cheap but more than a little bit of a dive. It developed a serious mouse problem, with feces everywhere. The landlord failed to address that after being told, being a crazy slumlord. Gentleman preferred the money saved and figured that cleaning mouse poop daily was worth what had…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:52 PM
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Yes. Moar Sex Plz. MOAR. He's the guy that gave me my first orgasm from another person. As a result you can imagine soft whining and grabby hands being made on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:38 PM
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Because she doesn't respect me, and she is confronted with trying to do something that she doesn't feel. Respect or trust? The two are very wound up in each other but are not the same- for example I have more trust issues than respect issues. I realize that those two often get conflated, but being you have control over. Feelings are arbitrary. See, if you go the full circle you only change the being that is expressed by the feeling, but doing. This is whether you have a phobia to get rid of; nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:35 PM
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Thus is RPW was going to make him want sex more without harming him it would be a huge point in its favour. I don't understand this sentence. Thus if. Typo there. If RPW gets me more sex, I'd be very happy. It didn't. You weren't set out to get better, you set out to make a point. You created an environment where nothing you could do would have worked. And you're setting out with the premise that all men who are happy in their relationship are in RPW relationships. You're also approaching this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:27 PM
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IG eyebrows spring to mind. Really, a bunch of the hyper-exaggerated stuff you'll find in /r/makeupaddiction. The fashions jokingly called "man repellent". Anything TRP makes a point about talking about being a violation of the sanctity of a woman's body. Although realistically you're going to find at least one guy who is totes down with whatever or even prefers it, and at least one woman who thinks it's eugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:16 PM
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Yeah, actually. I paid a lot of money for those psych and poli sci classes. I'll be damned if I won't put the premises I learned there to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:12 PM
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Obesity is cultural- or specifically it's a marker of health problems created by shifts in how a culture chooses to conduct itself, and matters like infrastructure and investment in nutrition and nourishment. Gender is an arbitrary set of traits we've attached to people, whom we sorted by sex at the moment we were able to see their genitals and make an educated guess at what colour of baby blanket we suppose they need.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:10 PM
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It's easy enough to just do it without telling your partner and letting them react naturally. But informed consent! :((((
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:06 PM
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Striving ever upwards for continuous improvement, comrade! Less facetiously, and going very dark, I grew up with abusive shit. I'm intimately aware that where you place your baselines for what is "good" are based on assumptions that can be self limiting and this kind of testing is healthier than passivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:02 PM
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See, the be vs do distinction was something I also found fairly awkward about the whole thing. I got a lot of "no, no you need to respect your partner, not just make a list of things to do". That left me baffled, as I really respect Gentleman or I wouldn't be with him. There's nothing actions-wise that anyone could give me that were concrete, it was all about feelings. Indeed at the time people couldn't agree if Gentleman was an exert shit test wrangler who had me wrapped around his finger or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:59 PM
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/u/CoochQuarantine has a point here though. This is why clinical trials have placebos. If you tell someone "I am doing this and expecting this" it has a big psychological effect. It's not the same as letting it play out naturally. I don't think any of us have the tools to do that. Any discussion about the method is going to be biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:52 PM
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The biggest thing Gentleman noticed about this project was being coddled/emotionally managed made him feel like a child. Keep in mind that this also involved reading "The Care and Feeding of Husbands" which is about making the best about a loveless relationship so your children won't be scourged by the Evils of Divorce. This skews it to having been more than just Surrendered. Ok. So that is his choice and you follow that. That IS RPW. It seems like you decided to become a robot rather than foste…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:51 PM
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I'm going to be explicit here and say that I think this deserves its own discussion post. Would you be interested in participating in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:07 PM
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Yeah, Not All TeRPs Are Like That or I wouldn't be talking to you. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:44 PM
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Well, you're also never uncivil, that I've experienced!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:47 PM
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In your posts the first this you do is tell your SO that you are doing and experiment. This creates a mindset that it is temporary. > You are also telling them that your behavior is going to change and thereby not allowing them to react naturally to how an actual change would affect them. That is just for starters. Yeah, experiments have to have informed consent. I'm not going to unilaterally decide to change all my behaviour- he has veto and I feel like it would be not being supportive to his n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:45 PM
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whether y'all genuinely believe RPW are out of their minds. I don't personally- I disagree with several premises, but yes, you have a lot of bad faith "you want someone you can look up to so you're a baby with brain damage!" being flung around. I don't think it's fair either. That doesn't mean that if my hypothetical loving husband of 5 years does a sudden about-face and takes up meth and beating myself and the children, that I'm gonna stick around and take it. That would be nuts. With gentle di…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:23 PM
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I think, honestly, that different people have different levels of comfort with that concept. Mine is "trust in God, but tie your camel."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:56 PM
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You can have input without it being about yourself. I'm talking about the people who literally and explicitly say I'm lying or deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:42 PM
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you are in a fem dom relationship Nope! I'm not. We don't have a FLR. overall poorly executed. Expand on that, please. :) edit Added smiley for tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:41 PM
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Certainly! An... oh my goodness, two years ago, now... it was discussed that the RPW approach might be more ideal for general relationships. The write up of it is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2wokrw/rpwexperiment_week_4conclusion/ But as far as a general summary, I found that "surrendering" just drove a huge wedge of distance into my relationship. My partner felt like I was treating him like he needed to be handled, paradoxically creating more distance between us than…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:40 PM
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Yes! I totally read "The Surrendered Wife" as part of the RPW experiment I did a while back. Tested the premises to the best of my ability and everything. It was pretty terrible. It made both myself and my partner unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:24 PM
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If you don't want to make things personal, don't discuss personal things. Especially if you are trying to represent a minority opinion. If you care for my input, instead of it just being TRP (where I don't bother you because it would be rude of me to try to violate your stated wishes) that doesn't fly. And if you don't care about my input, you don't belong here. I'm pretty easy going about this, but I'm not going to debate with someone who can't make the basic standards for civility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:22 PM
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Purple, ironically, seems to function as a place of dissent for red vs red more so than anything else. It's unlikely that I will ever change anyone's mind- about a quarter of the people I interact with on the opposition are slightly dubious about my personhood to one degree or another, from insulting my intentions to just flat out insulting me. This is not a good place to launch a discussion from. But TRP itself is very message hygene focused, to the point that if you aren't on board with a very…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 12:33 PM
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Sex is very important. It's also an immensely complicated thing. I think no sex is grounds to end a relationship. I think any arbitrary reason is good enough not to want to have one. As a slut I don't want you to marry me. We'd be a terrible match! I do want to be considered an okay human being with inherent worth and dignity, and like most sluts I get pretty used to ranting about sluts and whores sliding into more than a personal aesthetic preference- kind of like "I don't date asian guys!" is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:52 AM
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Huh. He's actually really cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 12:41 AM
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The act of penetration gives the psychological concept of invasion. I am now taking YOUR space. I am now inside of YOUR body. Your penis bends when it is engulfed. It is forced, the most intimate, vulnerable symbol of your potency, to yield. If we're being poetic, it's the mouth that sucks you into incoherence, all the sweating and struggling you do only ends in you in a state of helpless vulnerability. One orgasm later and I'm raring for round two. The man is spent, useless for all sexual funct…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 12:34 AM
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I'm sorry sweetie, no matter how much you neg me I'm not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 10:40 PM
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/bats lashes Oh you see it's just a giant shit test. I just need a big, strong man to take the crop out of my hand and throw me on the bed before jamming his penis into me until it fractures. Nothing is sexier than a man crying in pain and... Oops, doing it again. I'll never get an Alpha. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 10:00 PM
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That's not deception, anymore than wearing a big hat is deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 09:55 PM
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But that has nothing to do with who puts a penis where. I've had multiple dicks and multiple cunts and there has been no difference in my capacity to love between virgin me and slut me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 09:54 PM
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No, I mean feed him a sandwich before he blows away skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 09:51 PM
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Well, if you never take your bra off and sex is conditional on you have breasts bigger than they actually are, a padded bra is rape-by-deception. Similarly I wear a lot of sports bras because I prefer a flatter looking chest on me- if a guy's sex with me was conditional on having limited breast tissue it would be wrong of me to trick him, but I hope he understands how boobs work. Thus a "push up" bra that is just an uplift bra isn't deceiving anyone, it's just shifting the breast tissue around. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 07:45 PM
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It really depends- some makeup is about contouring and subtly changing your appearance, but most of the trendy stuff does no such thing- artfully sculpted, painted eyebrows don't look "real".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 07:39 PM
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If you really believe my lips are blood red (or blue) and my eyes have black lines poking out from the corners I'm not sure you are sane enough to consent to sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 07:37 PM
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That doesn't make any sense, that means every time I masturbate (or hold a baby) I lose the ability to bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 07:34 PM
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So by what process do dicks reduce the ability to "bond"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 06:11 PM
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I am a literal female dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 05:41 PM
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Erratum- became legal in Texas in 2008, still illegal in Alabama.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 05:40 PM
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They mean "frottage". It's two males dry humping. If you've never seen two guys fucking like that... :P
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 05:07 PM
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Eh, you can't buy dildoes in Texas. Becung illegal is no arguement that something is inherently bad. Much of the rest of the world has decriminalized or regulated sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 03:50 PM
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Could you possibly not insult the people you are talking to? It makes it hard for us to feel this is a good faith debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 03:43 PM
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You can fuck other men, can't you? :p
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 12:32 PM
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Nope, but they are the closest genetic relative- and we do loads of sexual things that won't ever make a baby, from buggery to strip tease.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 11:57 AM
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But... They aren't. This sort of popularity is only useful as a front for selling something else, but there aren't a pile of talent scouts pouring over the top IG crew- the way you make money at this (that isn't directly selling sex) is brand endorsement and promotions. As a blogger, there aren't authorial talent scouts looking to offer me a publishing deal. I leveraged my free writing into book sales, but the money to be made is in link building for paid services and product promotion. This goe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 11:55 AM
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CMV - there is literally no evidence you will accept regarding this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 10:49 AM
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I like skinny men with unusually long arms. Given the preference I like gaunt. It's an instant turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 10:45 AM
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Okay, then everything in my last post is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 01:17 AM
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Does it go down with every vadge she licks? What about strapons?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 01:14 AM
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I'm glad you know all other penises as well as your own. Also no woman ever enjoys being fingered or having a man control the thrusting compared with masturbation. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 12:35 AM
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But she's not losing when she has sex then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 12:14 AM
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You mean the cousins of the species that practices casual intermale frottage? Are hard wired for what? This still doesn't semonstrate sex makes a woman "lose".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 12:13 AM
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My mistake, you came into the conversation after I responded to some else to be pro anonymous gender. These women are taking nothing from other actresses. They are not even trying to hook up with anyone in the industry- the blogger is pretending to be a client from dubai.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 11:46 PM
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Eh, but in many regions not only is sex work stigmatized, it's illegal. So sex workers who use euphamistic language have a sensible motive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 11:44 PM
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And none of these women are actually actresses, so they are not taking work from anyone. As far as whining, you started complaining about women sharing their gender, I just poked you after the whine was well under way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 10:53 PM
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I find that hard to believe given that contraception is at least as old as writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 10:51 PM
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Vadge is probably cleaner, it's not actively growing plaque, for example. As far as cunnilingus, I don't like it on me, but doing it is nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 10:49 PM
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Given how married you were to the idea of hiding your gender to avoid getting special attention, how is it any of (y)our business? Seriously, they're not hurting anyone. Do the artists who can't make a living at it and wait tables or have a straight job owe you their tax returns?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 10:23 PM
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Makes the blogger seem like he wants everyone to care about his desire to humiliate sex workers. Kinda icky, not for the women who are just doing their thing to the enjoyment of millions, but the sort of whiney jerk who get offended about it. People like that are why you don't get to see me naked, because any hint of sexual fun (even my not for pay) leads to morons and monsters homing onto you. I fear for my sex worker friends sometimes because there's this idea that you don't deserve privacy or…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 09:48 PM
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No, it's because most women have clitoral orgasms, myself included. I enjoy penetration but on my own time I buff the muffin, not jam the clam.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:37 PM
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Le gasp! Undone by butt stuff!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:29 PM
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Indeed? Do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:24 PM
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Hey, palaeolithic me would have probably just had a lot more anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:20 PM
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Truly the most logical of arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:18 PM
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Which is not a huge deal, particularly since human young are typically a team/tribe effort anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:15 PM
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I don't think I got your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:14 PM
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emotions are scared of snakes, Snek? Who issss ssssscared of smol snek? You also get the picture, that sort of biological absolutism doesn't work when plenty of people defy what we are supposedly programmed for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:11 PM
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I am now poking my cheek with my tongue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:00 PM
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Throughout the day, males and females, adolescents and elders alike greet one another sexually for apparently almost any reason — and do so with everything from a quick feel, to porn-style choreographies, to elaborately athletic couplings. This feature — the variety of their easygoing sex life — is what led Duke primatologist Vanessa Woods to cheekily title her book about them Bonobo Handshake. Bonobos have deployed their elaborate sexual toolkit to ease all kinds of social transitions — ranging…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 07:55 PM
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Hah. Yeah, I find partners can stretch the experience out if they really, really want to, but there's the laziness factor that makes the other kind of thing appeal to said dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 07:52 PM
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Sex also serves as a social bonding and communication tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 07:27 PM
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0.3% perfect use is what I rely on, with the expectation of an abortion if it fails. For comparison that's a 0.4% chance of being involved in a motor vehicle accident where I am injured or killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 07:08 PM
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If you use withdrawal method correctly, the risk goes down to 4%. 27% if you fuck it up sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 06:58 PM
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Guys are special snowflakes, their bodies are as magical and full as nerve endings as any woman. However because most of them can get off via dick in hole pretty quickly there tends not to be as much attention given to the subject or respect to male sexual complexity. (And it would be remiss to imply all men behave sexually the same way. I'm not going to do that nonesense about how you don't know your dick as well as I do.) HOWEVER it's short and is a precursor to something I can't do when I'm b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 06:55 PM
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I'm not sure what women are getting out of casual sex. Would you like me to try to explain? Even if you don't have an orgasm from sex, it gives you happy fuzzies when it's good sex. Like going to see a stripper, where you aren't going to get off but it's titillating. Some people are into that, while others don't. When I get titillated a lot, I'm overall happier and more horny. Guys are sexy. They sway their shoulders and arms when they walk, and they smell nice. Their skin is all flushed and war…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 06:24 PM
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Right, but I think the disconnect is a fundamentally different viewpoint of the term "submission" and it's sister term, "dominance". Does everything exist in that sort of push/pull in your definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 05:24 PM
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If he sticks around, it's a win. If he doesn't, it's a loss. What about women who have casual sex or choose to be the one who walks away? Do men default to not wanting relationships, according to your philosophy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 05:23 PM
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SMP More complicated than TRP states. And like all markets, irrational. AF/BB Simplistic dosh and wishful thinking. hypergamy Universal, humanity loooooves its idealized quasi royalty fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 05:17 PM
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Which still leaves me a bit confused about say: Deep down it's the sexual dynamic within women which makes them want to be a slave to a powerful man. But not any man... only the top man... the man on top of the pyramid. So think about that, a woman is instinctively seeking through Hypergamy to be enslaved by the most powerful Game in town. She wants to lose. She wants to be penetrated. https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/4fjyeq/game_and_slavery/ Is she winning or is she losing there, acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 05:12 PM
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Our lizard brains don't care about this. It's hardwired into our genetics. When you see a girl you want to bang, your brain might say shes hot, but your genetics are telling you "Those are some good genes right there!" Okay, but human sexuality generally lacks that level simplicity- neither us nor the other pleasure fuckers (eg bonobos) are doing it just to trade DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 05:09 PM
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By that logic he's submitting to anyone he puts his dick into, since the wrong twist during cowgirl and he's in broken dicksville. Similarly the apartment visitor could be mugged.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 04:57 PM
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Internet, around $60 a month. Retirement savings? As much as I can. Art supplies? Hahahaha... that's hilarious. EVERYTHING. It's not a cheap hobby. :P Edit More realistically, my biggest expenses in the last month were that I sent a care package to my brother in the hospital and the fog machine, for the theatrical effects I was creating. Upcoming I would like to buy the fixings to put out a herb garden on the balcony and in the three season porch, and buy wood to make shelves for the linen cupbo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 04:34 PM
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That sounds very self defeating. Like the only way I can imagine considering sex a loss is if he was a really shitty lay or somehow otherwise used it to hurt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 04:20 PM
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It is submitting because it must be ALLOWED by the woman. Wouldn't she be submitting if she didn't want it, but had to anyway (eg force?). I don't think if I invite a friend over to my house I'm submitting to them, even if inviting the wrong person over could lead to them peeing in my sink and stealing my teddy bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 04:18 PM
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Expand on this point, im not sure what you meant by it. Women want the very best male genes they can find because they invest/risk a lot with each kid Sex, in humans and in some sister primates, does not just exist for procreation. Hell, even mammals of other species (like horses) use it to prevent infanticide as insurance such that they don't depend on inter-male territory competition to the same degree they otherwise might. As much as we talk about "alpha" genes, you're not having a group pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 04:14 PM
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Being penetrated is synonymous with losing Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 04:00 PM
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But that didn't answer my question- it doesn't imply it is submission/losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 03:54 PM
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Yeah, but most acts of copulation are non-procreative even without birth control and this expands particularly into getting a blowie. She's also not "losing" in this context, as there's no assumption she didn't want the sex at all with anyone. So you could say he won compared with other men, but she didn't lose, right? edit Stats- conception sans birth control is an 85% success rate, assuming you're having the standard amount of sex a human does year round. But among those pregnancies, that she …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 03:43 PM
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Like art supplies and internet and retirement savings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 03:19 PM
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Because I like having control over myself, and it's more reliable to earn the money myself, and negotiate directly with an employer than rely on trading specific domestic and sexual favours with one man who negotiates with the world for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 02:12 PM
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Probably quite a bit but only in a relative fashion. Much like being ultra-petite can be a selling point for women. It is surprisingly easy to make one gender seem like the other one when you have anonymity- so height in either direction becomes a great way to make an arbitrary distinction on which to hang heterosexuality on. It has to because there's such an intensely social component to sex. Of course there's various other pressures that encourage smaller stature- more compact humans need less…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 02:10 PM
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Why is having a social life bad? I mean I've never been into boozing, but since when was crashing with a friend a drawback? Why does it need handling?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 09:59 PM
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I have no sympathy here. It's okay, I'm not looking for special treatment. Which was where we came in here, gender is a lot more than just whether or not it makes your penis happy, it's a marker of defined interaction since the doctor made an educated guess on what was between my legs and slapped "Babygirl $lastname" on my bracelet. Thing is, I continue to identify as female because I enjoy pissing people like you off who wish everyone defaulted to male neuter except for sex. Because why should …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:46 PM
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Yeah, 'cuz the only contractual partnerships are slavery. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 10:53 AM
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Anything's an insult in the right tone. I have always been able to take my femaleness for granted and valued the so called feminine traits in myself. I've had slightly more male than female friends historically; but this rapidly corrected itself once I got outside the hobby bubble of small town nerdery. Said environment was very conservative, and I occasionally got enciuragement from teachers to be less outspoken and dire warnings that boys wouldn't like me. This did not come to pass- guys I dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 10:32 AM
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I think you don't really agree with the concept of social change and encourage a very passive/submissive way of interacting with your environment. Because basically your question is "who is forcing you to have hobbies and interests?" which is a bizarre approach- nobody is forcing me except that I need the same basic leisure and human interaction every human does. And it's bizarre that such a fundemental part of my identity had to be actively hidden or I'm assumed to be literally "asking for it".…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:07 AM
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D'accord! Je vous comprends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:27 PM
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People assume I'm male, not gender neutral. Unless this is your local lefty safe space, we don't function on a non-binary system. Indeed many games and so forth only offer a male or female avatar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:25 PM
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Nopes: Gets bossy and aggressive with me. I define my personal space and boundaries, you play coy and let me chase you, kay? Starts dictating his preferences for women (girls shouldn't wear pearls, should wear high ponytails) before I know him well enough to ask. Can't understand kink and isn't interested in being the person aggressively mauled. Not creative and imaginative/doesn't enjoy reading. Yup: Past history says I like unusually long armed men, semites and/ a sort of hairless slick look (…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:21 PM
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Pourquoi?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:06 PM
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Having to default to male is sexism, my gender isn't something I should be hiding like a second vagina on my forehead. I choose to use female coded psuedonyms for a reason other than special treatment, but because it needs to be common place enough to be ignored. It's obnoxious that I have to pretend not to be a part of my identity that has defined my existance from birth to avoid people claiming I'm doing it to get attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:03 PM
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Let me get this straight, you just asked for a woman to give herself entirely to you so you could change her into a better person here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4f5zn7/trust_hypocrisy_in_the_red_pill/d26hyw4 But if your feedback allegedly causes a woman to develop an eating disorder it's weird that everyone blamed you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:08 PM
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Literal ownership of people is slavery. I'd rather not be a slave, thankyouverymuch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:56 PM
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I don't care if you go get a nose job and turn into a neurotic mess about your rosatia. I don't even notice that your cheeks are "too pink" because you have way too much fat on your body for me to ever look closer That seems oddly specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:46 PM
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You know some really shitty people. Like encouraging people is such a normal trait I don't even put it as a selling point any more than "I have BOTH legs". o_o
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:29 PM
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http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22/3523/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:18 PM
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Would you say it is more rare to get that, than sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:01 PM
1

So yes fruit beer?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:01 PM
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a gift like a fresh beer (no sentimental bullshit, manly man, man beer only) No Fruit Beer. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 06:35 PM
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Evidently you've never created a planned fetish experience. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 04:56 PM
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To expand on that- you can still be neurotic and have a happy relationship. Both Gentleman and I have the opposite of a Happy Bunnies family background and given a literal OCEAN personality test would score high neurosis. Thing is that you can own your scars- an our understanding of damage tends to mean we compliment each other. We're never going to be rid of them without some sort of experience inclusive amnesia mind wipe, but living with it manageable. I acknowledge he's seen some shit- while …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 04:55 PM
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Nope. I just don't think feminism is a monolith just like I don't ask other TRP people why they assume the worst possible interpretation of what I said, just because you consistantly do. Instead I generally ignore you because your arguements at me always boil down to "Gotcha! You DO eat babies!" :P Specifically I'm a radical feminist. I've always been pretty vocal about my views. I actually generally don't get along well in far left circles locally as they are currently locked into a deadspin ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 03:06 PM
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In my social circle we're the cute couple. Like the gooey (friendly) jealousy creating mwahmwah everyone can tell after three years we're in looooooove. Lots of sticky eyes and snuggles. And I care about Gentleman an awful lot. Contrary to popular opinion of our friends we don't fuse minds and do everything as creepy body swapping puppets, we're two people with our own bullshit and baggage and needs and agendas. What matters is treating things like a mutual project where his happiness is activel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 02:30 PM
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Awwwwwww.... :'( /hug
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 01:09 PM
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(hey guys... im a gurrll. treat me special...) Pics. Pics? PICS! Picz! Want picz! Will you be my gf? Here, I'm going to give you random shit in this RPG will you be my GF? Less sarcastically, one of the reasons I notice some men collect female associates is not the sex, it's the trust and safety. Just as much as I get solicitations for relationships, you find guys clinging to you because nobody else will be nice to them and I'm the only one they presume they can be themselves around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 01:06 PM
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Having been online as a presumed dude and been online as a presumed woman, anecdotally there's way less bullshit as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 12:49 PM
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Discourage shaming language targeted at men- for example "pussy, wimp, coward". Pay more attention to the sexual harassment of men (usually this is also by men, so ymmv in getting traction with this). Stop treating violence against men as a normal and acceptable way to carry on a social dialogue. Could the rise of SJW culture with its "punching up" doctrine be to blame? No, male on male violence has always been a huge problem, through all of human history because it is assumed to be a normal par…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 12:45 PM
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/chucks a "free range" egg at you. I totally know how the sausage is made, from rinsing the bung to raising the pig. :P There is no reason to take the entirety of human misery and decide to treat it casually and no sense in an unregulated scramble of "fuck you, got mine!" particularly when I can use minimal effort to prevent it. And minimal attentiveness to be aware of what is going down. There isn't much I can personally do about the inequality in other countries. I can send their governments f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 12:27 PM
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Nope. Happily disavow it. Just like I disavow Femen's anti-abortion arguements.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:59 AM
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Nope. Unless Itunes counts. Although child labour does happen, this is not the norm for manufacturing. It is more likely that your low priced item made in China was made by a (formerly) rural migrant in their late teens and early twenties. Now there is different expectations of quality of life where a I enjoy significant privilege compared with said people (I live in a nice apartment with my partner, they live in a worker's dorm). But child labour is a hyperbolic example. I would be more concern…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:57 AM
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Good, I'm still in Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 09:50 PM
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A good partner is a good lay with his shit together, who cares about me. Enough overlap in goals and values we're not running at loggerheads enough to burn each other out. I can go into specifics about how I like a man who likes to be nurtured, or the kinky sex, but that's specific to me. But I generally find most men don't have a problem with the way the rules are laid out in life. A minority, however, see this like a dating minigame in a life sim, where any of the arbitrarily available (in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 08:54 PM
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I had to do a a bit of digging, because this is not a major part of NOW's platform, but the argument you are talking about is here: http://www.politicalresearch.org/2011/03/01/fathers-rights-groups-threaten-womens-gains-and-their-safety/#sthash.bKv9KktJ.dpbs It's a critique that male custody/mra movements are not about the kids best interests but in building power for men. All that aside, this is a US debate with an american organization that sees MRA as using the kids thing as a trojan horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:54 PM
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Which feminists? Can you be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:40 PM
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My phone was manufactured in Korea. It's not really known for high use in child labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:33 PM
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If I could choose the person out of my pool of peers and friends, and the going rate for as much pain as a punch was 100k I have a few friends I know are tough enough that they would be happy to trade a thump for the entirety of the money (which I would give to them). Better still if I could ask them first because the consent issue is what bugs me. But no money is worth it. I'd take a punch for someone else's material gain though, as I know I can take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:28 PM
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50/50 is better, although without the intercession of the court generally couples choose to give a woman more custody. With it, 50/50 is the norm for contested custody in Canada. As a feminist I am 100% on board for more paternal involvement and paternity leave. This tends to be the trend among feminists more so than "motherhood is sacred and men eat babies", at least in contemporary pro-feminist countries. For example one of the main challenges in my country is encouraging more men to take adva…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:20 PM
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As a person who has repeatedly got into physical violence in the defence of other people and puts her personal reputation at stake to stand down the predators in her community, stating the nature of a scenario makes you a realist, not a coward. Yeah, we should all be caring and sharing and perfect too. But we aren't and we work with imperfections. This isn't easy, and it's not very useful to imply it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 06:01 PM
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It's more effective to shame the fuck out of behaviour that's seen as grey area/just "naughty" (eg sober people cruising for drunk folk; consent assumed to be yes until told otherwise; and so forth) and to back a woman's defence of her personal space and physical integrity. The problem is not "fuck me or I kill you". Dark alley rapists are not the norm. The problem is that there's a lot of borderline behaviour you are not socially encoraged to freak the fuck out about. For example women get less…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 05:43 PM
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Also as TRP gets increasingly more oriented towards message hygene, it is impossible to discuss much range of theory. The repeated pro marriage schisms in satellite subs is a symptom of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 11:59 AM
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You literally took the worst, most illogical reading out of what I said. I'm not even mad, it's remarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 11:54 AM
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I meant that testing paternity should be available in cases where there is reason to be curious- but that mandatory testing is a giant waste of money. Most men serving as father to non-genetic children are well aware of that fact. As observed by personal experience, when a guy doesn't wanna, he won't. There are a lot more guys whose life choices leave them unable to contribute than guys innocently wronged by some cuckoo's egg. Mandatory paternity testing is only enforcing the idea that fathering…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 11:34 PM
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Cold sales are always gross. I'd use the word gross, not creepy, because it's just as obnoxious when someone's doing it to sell something other than admiring them and touching their genitals. Different environments broker different levels of interaction- at a party or hobby group my presence (unless in locked down headphones or reading) suggests being open to casual conversation, but my patience is less thick if it's on the bus or buying kumquats. This patience goes down still further if said pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 02:15 PM
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Yes! Actually I'm rather good at it, as long as I have faith in the product. I also have the benefit that one of my shitty college jobs was supervising post sale and garage service customer satisfaction surveys for a $popularCarBrand. In the case of selling furniture and decorator knicknacks (I had the top sales per hours worked in the company for December of that year, go me! :P) the trick was to be attentive and available. In the case of the cars, what was the winning strategy was listening to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 02:05 PM
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it's for those gullible saps who do trust her, the type of dude who has a big "WELCOME"-sign on his forehead. Who are such a tiny minority of people that you could protect in much more sensible ways that also didn't perpetuate the very model of legal attachment that a lot of you TRPs hate in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 01:38 PM
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...and you seriously want to tell me than an additional 300ish bucks make or break the deal? Because it doesn't actually help men. This isn't about say, genetic heritage testing or something sensible, it's like telling people with ulcers they should reduce their stress level because popular wisdom tells you the two are related. Meanwhile the actual science of the subject says paternity fraud as a wide scale thing is bullshit. You know it's bullshit, but instead of dealing with a society wide pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 01:36 PM
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Hey, I use the Canadian medicare system. Knowing what is nonesense is part of making it cost effective- you don't see me advocating for any number of stupid extras so don't project you weird ass stereotypes onto me. Just because you can't relate to me with any degree of nuance is not my problem. The truth is that I'm a paternity test kid whose father bought into the rhetoric about money stealing sluts who think babies are traps. And all it was, was a symptom of adults being idiots. It didn't cur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 01:24 PM
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Since most women have a baby by the person who is the father according to what they claim, I feel like this is creating a voter fraud prevention style extra layer of needless expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 11:58 AM
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Everyone thinks college is one big fuck fest, but the reality is that most people do not do that and the people having the highest amount of sex are in stable relationships. College hookup culture is exciting, so it gets sensationalized and exagerated, but it's like saying the entire population of Montreal works in porn because we're the home of the tube sites. College has the advantage of providing introductions to people who are easy to make friends with because of how much you have in common.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 11:33 AM
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Eh, there's enough specific not penis in vagina things they ask for that the "just thirsty" holds no water. But I wouldn't expect someone who thinks this is a gendered thing to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 02:05 AM
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You'll get over it. Ted Bundy is hardly someone with "psychopathic traits", he's an unfortunate example of an all out mess and goes back to my point about being able to pass as normal or even charasmatic- at the end of the day self indulgent murder was not a good long term strategy. As for faux dommes, the number of guys loudly screaming more dom than thou who end up in my inbox trying to get a discreete "session" means that I think there are a lot of people unhappy with their hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 12:56 AM
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She's probably not that into you. Possibly she's shitty at flirting- remember I didn't come out of the womb knowing this. Nobody does. But there's also a difference between weird text games (probably a very bad idea) and deliberately not playing your hand too soon by not letting the guy know you are googley eyed over him. It's the challenge that the biggest aphrodisiac for a man is to know you like him, but it's also overwhelming if you squirt your metaphorical eggs in the water too soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 10:11 PM
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high functioning psychopaths That's a pop-psychology concept, though. It's like talking about a "high functioning schizoid". If you're actually studying the behaviour people who meet the criteria for a clinical diagnosis, you just have a person with a learning disability - they can't learn from negative feedback/consequences and make poor and impulsive choices as a result. That's dependent on the Dom, no? Just because you haven't found a quality man to submit to, doesn't mean that they don't exi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 07:58 PM
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I'm paraphrasing, but yes, a literal sociopath, on the grounds that if you were important to him he would be smart enough to look after you. Then again, TRP has a tendency to get super into the idea that "dark triad" traits get laid a lot. There's a correlation with sexual frequency and mental illness, but it neglects how absolutely miserable said people are, seems to be like being jealous of the special ed kid because they don't have to do math worksheets and can just do colouring. There's a bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 07:20 PM
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RPW does- they see kink as "fake". Functionally, BDSM subs range from purely sexual submissives to people who are emotionally into deference to a person or people. As a degenerate libertine I generally find my biggest critique with RPW is the self destructive choices - eg when one of the mods said she thinks marrying a sociopath could be great if you were important to him. This is of course not how these things work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:36 PM
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RPW do not want to identify as submissive in the sense people are using and vocally defend their right not to be labled on the spectrum of BDSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:24 PM
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Uh... No? If I do sexual things with you, it means I find you sexually attractive and there isn't a reason why this could be a bad idea. I'm bisexual- I do both- but I'm (for example) closer emotionally so some friends I don't feel attraction to than some I may have a casual hookup with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:41 PM
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How is it healthy to stay in a relationship because you want something, even though you'll never get it? You are seeing sex as a "promotion". It's not. It's one of the many fun activities you may or may not do with a person, but not everyone approaches fucking like it's the next level that they have to reach to feel complete with their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 04:54 PM
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Not everyone is a monomaniacal about fucking everyone they are attracted to or else withering inside like a flower watered with bleach, and thus sexual attraction does not default to being unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 04:34 PM
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if one party has unrequited sexual desire for the other? The willingness to fuck someone is not the end of the world for all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 04:23 PM
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Nah, I'm similar with no body art, and trust me, the average TRP'r has made it clear I am NOT what he wants. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 02:31 PM
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Yep. Of course I'm consciously involved in the process! Courtship doesn't actually go "man initiates on woman floating in stasis, woman makes 3 second snap judgement". Look at a guy with a pleasant expression, look away, look back, lock eyes and smile. Boom. It actually works for men too- bouncing your gaze consciously is part of your communication skill tool kit and can be considered a first foray. These are important because it allows either of you to abort while saving face earlier in the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 02:30 PM
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I respect your choice. Meanwhile I have fisting to do!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 10:41 PM
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No i dont read cosmo Then you clearly lack the authority to communicate what women expect if you know nothing about the sort of information we consume and by extension, our expectations. I live in the real world The one where giving up your seat to women is anything other than a bizarre affectation? dont get my personal view's on the world from a(n) [..] online forum You mean like TRP? Or the place you're hanging out that it specifically to discuss how things work? you cant tell me about reality…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 01:40 PM
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Bull, people have been writing about brute man for a lot longer than now. If anything I would describe it as being a very Victorian concept, at least in the non-nuanced version you are objecting to. Go over to RPWives, they just made that arguement, something that TBP is trainwreck oggling right now because we don't agree with it. But I strongly think you don't actually consume media intended for women. I don't think you've ever heard of engadgement chicken or cosmo's hilariously embarassing sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 11:20 AM
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Frankly there's enough effort in popular culture to man pleasing that the chivalry = appeasement arguement is a little spurious. The devaluation of female on male violence is atrocious, but outside of consensual BDSM or martial arts, nobody should be slapping anyone. Complain about the actual problem (risk of unchecked violence from a woman) and I'll agree with you, but my point holds that nobody is making you do the song and dance of chair pulling/door holding/seat surrendering and most women f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 02:01 AM
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You know where I live, outside of socially stunted people, showboating chivalry is on the general menu of gender discovery for 12 year old boys as putting socks in your bra to help imagine your breasts is for 12 year old girls. Hell, it's the gended equivalent of wearing a layercake dress with a tiara and white cotton gloves. Who is going around giving you the impression you need to do this? It's not a popular thing in contemporary media. It's not in any of those picture books for little kids th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 01:37 AM
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Be desired as a sex object by a large number of women while making various very public upheavals including potentially changing the very way we select our leaders in Canada? liberal Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not expressing power when you get your way. But I mean, pure violent grandstanding, he did beat Brazeau in a boxing match.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 04:30 PM
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Trudeau. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:38 AM
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I have no idea what you are trying to communicate, you want to edit that post?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 12:08 AM
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Reads like a low effort porn novel premise intended to get sub guys off. Let's see, what is the roots of our power. Pheromones? Boobies? There's always some improbable conceit in these stories before they start talking about cock cages and being "forced" to watch the lesbians sneer at them. Really though, I don't see what you're aiming at. What would the digression into asexual reproduction have for anyone? Hey, you did work a sort of lizard people into your conspiracy theory so I will give you …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:15 PM
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Have fun and drink responsibly!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 10:38 PM
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Well, by that logic, you just want to believe they're assholes, because it justifies your position, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 06:23 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 02:41 AM
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But you just said if you cared about something you shouldn't be ashamed to show your face. So we're waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 01:34 AM
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Going to post a face pic, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 01:19 AM
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Dude, in Canada if you suck my toes without my permission it's sexual assault, but if you punch a woman in the boob, unless it was with sexual intent it isn't. In any case it's legal to run around with most of a boob exposed, but you still don't get to touch them in the bare part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 01:16 AM
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You aren't offering anyone a climbing aid by lying to them. It doesn't resolve their problems, and it doesn't alieviate the sense of disempowerment to get that kind of charity. When the person I was responding to lays out his plan to try to repress my sexuality, and does so outside of an echo chamber where everyone gives him high fives, what precisely is the response? Other than "it doesn't work that way?" We've already talked "sluts are not bad" into the ground- it boils down to complaining tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 12:18 AM
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Really? Do any of you TRP guys really want to be coddled? Hands up guys. I've always made it a policy to be as sincere and honest as possible. I am not going to call anyone names, but I also have always been open in the other direction. I'm gentle with the hurt and wounded, but this pretence that TRP are misguided children or victims who don't know any better does them no favours. Don't condesend to them, most of "them" are grown ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:16 PM
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I'm not writing for your benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 10:42 PM
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Define dominant. Also define the context of "should" and over whom the man is dominant. Absolute power tilted towards any group tends to disadvantage the other groups. Since gender is literally given to you at birth, and most of us survive to adulthood, being a man is a silly thing to assume default leadership on. It also tends to become a self re-enforcing system that people will try to pass on to the people the like at the expense of the group as a whole. Specifically over me, you shouldn't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:15 PM
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Too late. Speaking as what you fear could become the norm- Our naked pics flood the 'net and yet we are still loved and respected by those we care about. Our partner counts occupy a comfortable curve from few to many, and everything is still fine. Our shame diminishes, and with it, your power. You can try to control me all you want, but you have no leverage and nothing of yours I'd value. Free yourself from paternity? Sure, in a better world no baby would depend on clumsy and unwilling parents. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 12:34 PM
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Initially sympathy- I associated in over their head male friends and aquaintences with TRP pain. I was also curious about the precise logic. The world view is so alien it can be interesting to examine it, and making a sock puppet disguise to explore TRP itself would be rude. As a feminist, my perspective is tilted by the toolkit I work with- so checking for blindspots. I didn't think TRP was likely to convert me, but I'm not an expert in men's issues so I wanted to be able to listen too. I did n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 01:23 AM
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Yeah, my boyfriend's ability to know which of the 3 styles of $15 H&M t-shirts suits him is SUCH a marker of his wealth. He got those fat stacks in his moderately priced, but picked to fit his numerical measurement jeans. That Chris Evans as Captain America conservative-but-fashionable $50 haircut ain't because they give him a delicious head rubs at the nicer salon, it and the time spent with the beard trimmer and a dollar shave club razor is so you can see his green fan out like a peacock tail.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 02:56 PM
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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsm.12669/abstract Yes actually, lesbians have a higher rate of orgasm acvording to that study. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 09:14 PM
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The thing that I don't think Vamps considered is that happy, fulfilled men don't just detonate their happy, fulfilling marriages for no reason. Adults can communicate why they are unhappy, though. Such that we can see, he's vaguely anxious after watching his friend's marriage implode that he'll suffer the same fate. It's like if his friend lost his wife in a fire, and he reacted by replacing all her clothes with fire-retardant fabrics and threw away everything that was flammable. The overwhelmin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 04:02 PM
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Given that you are letting people insult you repeatedly and you haven't told us to get stuffed, you clearly will put up with a lot for him. My advice is to figure out your personal limits. You're clearly willing to consider reordering your dynamic for him, but he needs to communicate realistic, concrete goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:04 PM
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I am not claiming that I should have authority over my husband There in is your problem, you're arguing with people to who don't believe in equality. So from their perspective, if you don't specifically commit to defer to your partner, you are stealth leading. You're going to get a lot of round about "separate but equal" or people trying to argue that lesser does not mean lowly, but I don't think that's what you're asking about, because TRP does want females placed lower on a social hierarchy th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 01:10 PM
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Why does he outrank you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 01:09 PM
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Nope, but I think the context of this is important, because Vamps is being coerced by a guy who just decided to renegotiate their relationship. And the worst part is that he did it unilaterally, deciding "this how it be from now on" with the theory she'd just fall into line. But it's not working, and then when she tried to at least understand his logic (because she respects him enough to consider his perspective) she went to RPW and got piled on for being disrespectful. The thing it, in the cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 01:06 PM
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Pertinent to your post, a common problem I noticed is (some) male friends treating me like I was a combination therapist, fashion guru, dating coach and sometimes surrogate mother-sister. These men often feel uncomfortable opening up to other men, and see me as non-threatening. Realistically I'm no professional therapist and I can't help seriously fucked up shit. I am also inclined to get impatient with a person of either gender if they engage in self destructive or obnoxious behaviours. So the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 02:25 AM
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"Kill all X" is not an appropriate way to express yourself if you want to be taken seriously. This is why you need to get outside your own echo chamber, whether you are on the far left or the far right. An antagonistic relationship with what you perceive as a power imbalance is both normal and part of what facilitates activism (movements tend to have an aggressive side and a conciliatory side and both matter), but just because someone is white and male doesn't mean you should unilaterally advoca…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:51 PM
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male version of love is infinitely more convenient Where we came in here is pointing out that traditionally feminine achievements aren't getting respect, encouraging pursuit of things we associate with masculinity. Atlas asked why one might want that, and people have explained. Personally, even if I'm passably conventionally attractive, getting people to value me for my achievements is more useful than relying on men to whom I seem nice to, to try to collect me. Beyond that, if you believe TRP, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 04:24 PM
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I ain't that special, as much as I like to pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 02:33 PM
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Given the comparatively drastic outcomes for men VS women for addiction and suicide, if we use mental health as a measure it's not looking good for men doing that either on the respect VS love scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 10:30 AM
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Who is having sex with 300 people? I mean I know a few people are, but it's a very rare occurrence so it seems like an odd behaviour qualifier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 01:27 AM
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she has to respect herself. Could you explain that a bit more?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 09:00 PM
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How is that a personal attack?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:42 PM
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Because your version of respect is a fuck ton more useful to me than your version of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:03 PM
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I don't respond to someone if my civility level is going to drop below "moderately snarky".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 05:00 PM
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Could you explain with an actual argument? Like, with a premise and supporting evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 09:03 PM
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I don't think the 'how' of that is as obvious to your audience as in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 05:48 PM
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No, because it's not about sex, it's about finding the idea of being a mass shooter the only meaningful expression of identity and self worth. Having pity sex wouldn't help, because they are not looking to be eleviated of excessive semen. They are looking for a sense of belonging. They do not appear to say, become rapists, but rather do something that is borrowed from the values and hobbies of masculine socialisation. I will follow that observation with the caveat that wanting to murder the fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 12:02 PM
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I don't have my father's name, I have my mother's surname, which one supposes came by route of my grandfather, but if lineage is correct, with a particular group of people who claimed variously to be descended from or in admiration of a particular saint. Family names identify family- why is it the Honkie family instead of the Wife'sName family? Why is your dad more important than hers?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 01:15 AM
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It's a really weird US thing to the point that Gentleman's sister-in-law got harassed at the border for "lying about being married" because she doesn't share her spouse's last name, never mind that in Quebec, the province that shares the border crossing she was at, name changes are an elaborate process that is in no way associated with weddings or included.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 01:12 AM
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Mother, finished only some college, but couldn't juggle single mothering + school. Father has Masters, but was completely absent from my life until adulthood. Woo, financial abortion! Me, BA & Blooo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:49 AM
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I don't owe anyone anything regarding sexual access (the moon is full, is a good reason not to), but I would probably provide my partner with a reason why, since our relationship default is set to "ALL THE TIME" and I want him to keep that standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 07:53 PM
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We have Netflix, will it be Deep Space Nine or Twin Peaks? I made popcorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 07:44 PM
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You are suspect I am so suspect!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:27 PM
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I have a secret suspicion that both genders would like it if we had the leisure time to stay home and play with out babies. As long as we had another person that, when our babies went from cute to irritating, we could hand them over and go be self indulgent for a while. This study came to the conclusion as well that men have less sex when they take on household chores. This goes for classic household chores like wiping the floor or vacuum cleaning. But when he repairs the car, frequency of sex i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:31 PM
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You know... I am perfectly happy with a guy with an associates degree to my bachelor's degree? I have plenty of reasons I could tell you he is so dreamy and best, best, best, best, because this sort of decision making has an arbitrary aspect. Let us, for the sake of argument, say that hypergamy is real and everyone not only wants the best partner, but can agree on a "best". Let us also say in this hypothetical future, economic shifts are such that male education continues to decline. Hell, let's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:18 PM
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You have disagreements/do something wrong to your partner more than rarely?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:13 AM
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Some of your problem might be that you've confused empathy with sympathy. Although colloquially we tend to use the terms interchangeably, empathy is one's ability to understand the position of another person, but it is not the same thing as being sympathetic. I can easily understand you want someone to service your penis, but that doesn't give me much motive to be sympathetic. I know sexual denial is survivable and I don't find you particularly pitiable. You seem shocked. To paraphrase you: "She…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 07:04 PM
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I specifically said I could make all sorts of excuses BUT, they would be excuses. Note the 'blah, blah, blah'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 04:33 PM
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I don't need you to dictate to me that men like sex, I am already having sex, enthusiastically. Nothing you are saying is relevant to anything I said, you just want me to listen to you complain that women don't love you the way you define love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:08 PM
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Again, not relevant. Your problem persists and you did nothing to prove that it's unfair I don't want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:42 PM
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And no there's no cop out, you only get to fuck your wife you can't cheat on her in either scenario. You aren't aware she's cheating in either situation once you've decided your memory of the decision is gone. So guess which one men chose by a landslide? Not relevant. I'm fucking a dude on the regular, with all the bells and whistles, who are you providing emotional support to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:29 PM
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That's why women don't get why a man would rather be sexually loved than emotionally loved because they can only view things from the female perspective. I can collaborate with my society to make sure you are fed, sheltered and protected to the best of my ability. (And yes, I'm actively supportive and occasionally involved with volunteering to help the homeless, who are mostly men). But I'm already balling one dude as often as the bamboo grows, while I write porn, most of which I give away for f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 01:49 PM
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Yes, because those are your feelings. And it reaffirms my point that my womb has nothing to do with this, what makes you so itchy is that you want me/women to feel a particular way and you can't. In my personal life I can clearly use both empathy and express love in any way that it is conventionally defined, but it's pointless to discuss it, because this is about your needs, not my behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 01:30 PM
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Your accusations are irrelevant even if true. There's no need to argue "b-but I am smarter", because nobody gives a fuck if your memory span if five digits, not four. The rest is a huge pile of your feelings about people with a load of subjective, and I'm not going to address your feelings because it's your head, you can be disgusted I'm a liberal weenie or whatever all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 01:21 PM
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Not necessarily, actually lower socio-economic status tends to correlate with more promiscuous sexual behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 12:46 PM
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As a bi/heteroflexiable person, I have more luck with women than I want- they generally are more interested in sex with me than I with them. I'm a flirt, but my lesbian side is so lazy it's sad. Hard to judge, but I'd say that out of say, a social group, about a quarter to a third are potentially okay, but for all my slutty ways, I'm actually pretty picky about taking the D- if I'm allowed to masturbate my partners and call that sex the number is way higher than if I have to put them in my vagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 12:42 PM
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Yet I am the one who must approach you. I am the one who is expected to chase you. All because of your ability to give birth, your only redeeming quality. Nah dude, it's because you personally, have no shit I specifically need but you think I inherently have something you want. I want nothing to do with you, I'm okay with you stopping approaching me and you really add nothing of value to my life, just a sad little voice asking "why don't you appreciate meeeeee?" Humans specifically do a lot of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 12:36 PM
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Occasionally I say stupid stuff, as all humans do. Sometimes I'm inconvenient or inconsiderate, once in a blue moon I'm dead wrong or partially wrong. An example of a "wrong" might be that my partner gives me a lift to work every morning. I don't need it- public transit is fine, but it's faster to go with him. However traffic in Montreal is intolerable past a certain hour so if I go with him I have to go super early. Thus if I hitch a lift I have to go when he wants to leave, and it's easy for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 12:01 PM
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Point still holds, agree that wild sexy fun times are not the be all and end all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 10:31 AM
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You have one of three choices- Get involved with the entertainment industry/creative and into a bohemian lifestyle. Or Go into sales in an industry that does lavish bribery. Or Make a lot of money and devote your free time to throwing lavish parties/going out. Gentleman and I are in the area of the start of our third decade, and have access to lots of sexy fun through the local BDSM scene. He 'married' scene royalty (me) who plans events, which means he has constant access to a stream of cute gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 10:29 AM
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Bwoooop... penis. Bwoooop, now it's gone!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:06 PM
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No, I don't see any benefit to me from this. Changing physical gender at will, now that would be a cool super power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:08 PM
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Fap to gone wild or something. Or research your porn and buy ethical. Also, use lube unless this is a weird kink thing. Because how does a raw dick help anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:31 AM
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I'm so torn Moar lube!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:50 AM
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Anal stimulus is nice and not painful, although I've never had a dick in my butt. I prefer toys/fingers on the smaller side. Painful anal attempts feel the opposite of erotic. It's not even domination, just like defection gone wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:48 AM
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He is making my strapon sad with his default pain-al.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:43 AM
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If someone is offering help and they can't help you, it's more effective to say something like that, yes. You are less likely to get a hostile reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 05:49 PM
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Drenzard for example with the constant anger phase posts Yes, that is bad also. If you obsess about the same topic over and over again on here, people notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 05:47 PM
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If people in any pill colour on the spectrum are saying, as a united voice, that this isn't the best place for you, maaaaaybe it's time to start listening. (or in other words, what he said!)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 12:13 PM
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any mention of relationship stuff throws me back into this angry/anxious place. I have a friend who I believe is borderline, she can't stop posting relationship quotes on FB, I don't want to be like that, but it's useful to have some knowledge of how to improve rather than just give up entirely. You and her have zero difference in your behaviour, as described. You are constantly coming to us to address your anxiety, but we are not going to resolve it for you. Particularly since your anxieties ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 12:03 PM
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Yeah, if you ask for help and then argue vigorously at people who ask, they will stop trying to help you and suggest you seek more qualified, professional help not strangers on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 11:59 AM
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No, they are generally bi women who choose to identify as lesbians, because they prefer to avoid men. You see the same thing with guys who are only gay in prison or when women are removed. Many, although not all, humans have the potential to enjoy homosexual activity. If you can't, no big deal. Anyone claiming everyone can is an idiot or really misinformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 03:00 PM
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If you were in a new relationship with someone, found out they had slept with almost every other one of their partners with little delay, but wanted to make you wait much longer... knowing little to nothing else about their sexual past/reasoning... would you be ok with that? Yes, although as soon as I'm interested in a guy I'm ready for the sex to start. Inversely if I knew a guy had leapt through more hoops for past girlfriends, I am demonstrably okay with him being less hoop jumpy with me. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 08:36 PM
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If I want to cover them, a sheer foundation in downwards /vertical strokes- the advice for eastern european women is a slightly salmon tinted concealer. Keep in mind over concealing will look weird, skin is not uniform by nature and removing them entirely will make your eyes look smaller. Dehydration and low iron can both increase darkness, as can a sleep shortage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 10:13 AM
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None of my business- I wear it sporadically, but I find foundation can make me break out, so I have motive to skip it. My colours are so dramatic to start with (milk skin, dark brown/black hair) that plays well with lots of black liner and mascara, but bronzer and so forth just looks dirty. My female relatives are anti-makeup and leg shaving on my mother's side, so I'm self taught. I have plenty technically wrong with my skin (a very pink nose, dark circles), but I'm okay with that, and everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 01:33 AM
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Yeah, actually. I have a lot of experience specifically with anxiety/autism spectrum, depression and to a lesser extent personality disorders
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:16 PM
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Hoo boy. Okay, sit down and have a cup of tea (herbal if it's bed time) and I'll try to unpack this for you. You're locked in an obsessive loop over this shit because you've taken your excessive levels of biochemical anxiety and are using it existential issues like "can I be loved?" to apply logic to what is essentially your brain going derp. I don't mean this at all unkindly, but you aren't going to feel better if you keep asking purple to help. But about your question, no, relationships that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 07:27 PM
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Everyone's a 10 to somebody who looooooves them. That being said, most of us are not professional models- if the argument is that that's >8, that's a reasonable top of the scale for conventional attractiveness. It's just statistically unlikely we are all that hot. I think our entire perspective is skewed because of the social weight we put into appearance, similarly to how most people are poor at handling measures of intelligence and think they are slightly smarter than average regardless of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 12:31 PM
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Huh, the choice to have babies is based not on how sexually attracted I am to the guy, but how invested and skilled a father I think he might be. I have a lot of childcare experience. Babies are fun, but they are little attention absorbing blobs and they need to be raised as a tag team effort. Since the pregnancy and childbirth thing gives me moderate levels of body horror, they cost a fortune to raise, any guy I make a baby with better be 110% on board with it and think it's the best thing ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 11:44 AM
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I like running more than any other exercise. It tends to get derailed a lot since I have a lot of things I value to juggle, but I find pushing my endurance, on a treadmill or out on a path along the water soothing. Other than that I enjoy fencing and combat sports. I'm really bad at it, but it's fun. Aggression appeals to me. Lately I've been trying to get better about doing yoga, for health reasons. I'm trying to be more relaxed and less of a perfectionist. Bloo, of course. Equality, feminism, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:19 AM
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To develop feelings for someone I have to have sex So don't have sex with him until he develops feelings for you. Surely you have more to offer the opposite sex than coitus?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:21 PM
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Yeah, and I don't fuck unless it's already there. I am quick and aggressive, but I can spend time with the opposite sex long enough to grow love without sex. For example with Gentleman, he and I knew each other for several months of friendship before I pounced him, and by then I was in a state of quivering rapture over him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:04 PM
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She doesn't necessarily love them. Then why are you having sex if you only want to have sex with people you love as per an LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 05:53 PM
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My Husband even agrees with me and he is a man So why is that not good enough for you? Is this about arguing about you because you feel you don't get your promiscuity held against you and are a counter example of sleeping with many people being okay, or is this about worrying you don't meet someone's arbitrary standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 05:52 PM
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Yes, but that's kind of normal, most of us take a while to meet people who are a good match to us. Even attractive women. You don't actually have to sleep with all men to hold their attention long enough to decide if you'll escalate the relationship. I think it's your right to do so if you want, but blaming "couldn't help it!" implies a lack of free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 05:50 PM
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He and I have lived together for about two years, but our dynamic is effected by the fact that I moved in on top of him. Almost all the initial furniture and home goods are his, with a few exceptions, but the longer we live together the more things merge. Bills and rent go through him, as they started out in his name, and I pay a share of them based on a percent of income calculation. Originally I calculated my share, but he felt that I was overpaying him (I round up generously) and this made hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 05:35 PM
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No kids, but I like the idea of being married and prefer stable partnerships that are close as married as make little legal difference. I like the comfort and coziness of making house with a man, I like having my sexual partner close on hand and a wedding is really just a community social activity for a union your friend circle recognizes anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 05:13 PM
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Are you in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 11:46 AM
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Then how they look doesn't actually require compassion, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:13 PM
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Yeah, women you're not attracted to don't need your compassion, you can work with the same basic level of respect everyone gets. Not avoiding someone because of a physical disability/deformity is a morally positive thing to do, as we can't all be pretty, but being plain is not something that requires pity friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:07 PM
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Yeah, but a lot of species favour kids that might be their's, by avoiding infanticide with a female they have ever mated with. Female chimps will capitalise on this by going on an out of territory sex tour before they are finished puberty. Other animals use selective bursts of promiscuity as a guarding measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 02:54 PM
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I find not every guy has this issue. So it is either not inherent in men, or not inherent in enough men to effect my life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 02:50 PM
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Many women in this situation see him as their "boyfriend" and the point holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 06:17 PM
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Plenty of powerful people have creative or strange fetishes. But wanting to watch sex and having a co-operative partner can be expressed many ways. Hell, pimps specifically share the women they control for profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 01:36 PM
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Nobody is entitled to sex with anyone, but you can end a marriage for any reason. If my partner is not fucking me in the manner I find satisfying, I don't want a romantic relationship with them. However my personal ethics make me feel trying to use sex as a leverage point distasteful- I'm not going to fuck with their heads to try to change their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 10:45 AM
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That's a no true Scotsman argument, or it is making alpha a very, very specific term that the general population isn't using.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 10:27 AM
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What is TRPs obssesion with cuckold porn? It's like people who freak out at the "abuse" in BDSM porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 10:26 AM
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We don't, that's a fetish that is sold to men. Generally the women doing it are either enjoy consensual power exchange or enjoy sex and pleasing their dude. You guys seem to have this weird fixation on cuck porn. It's not the porn women are buying, when they get mmf porn they typically would rather watch their two new husbands fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 10:24 AM
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/fangirls at you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 01:20 AM
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Fantasies about harming TRP members make me uncomfortable. It's rare, but it pops up from time to time. Also persistently insisting all the RPW are men feels sexist. Plenty of women can have beliefs I disagree with and be my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 01:19 AM
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What doesn't work on Gentleman: Making him jealous. None of his insecurities are connected to infidelity and he doesn't see other men as being remotely related to me being there or not. Insulting him I could probably scupper his self esteem, because he takes me very seriously, but I'd just make him sad. Sexually manipulating him I don't think he's capable. He would probably just go wank and then nap. What does work: Going off on my own and doing things/withdrawing my presence. I don't believe in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 06:06 PM
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Slut means "dirty". The word literally evolved from a term to talk about sloppy, terrible housekeepers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 02:50 PM
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Can confirm, horn is extra pointy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 02:44 PM
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Do you mean humans who are a comfortable and good fit for other humans? Yes, there are people who meet that criteria, but one man's unicorn is another man's piebald nag. For example I'm a relatively pleasant and nurturing person who is conventionally attractive- not like I'll be the next face of Maybelline, but enough for most people- but I'd make an anti-feminist who wanted a submissive woman miserable. To a RP dude I might be precisely the kind of brazen sloot they want to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 02:41 PM
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It's only useful if you are trying to attract the specific person trying to make the judgement. But beyond that, what makes a random stranger qualified to notice what you don't? Shouldn't you hire a hairdresser or hang out in a place devoted to the subject? TRP, for example, only gives general appearance guidelines (lift moar, pay attention to clothes) precisely because of how subjective and time linked that info is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:18 AM
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Not really, because you aren't going to be able to appeal to all women, just the appropriate ones to your subcultural membership.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 01:51 PM
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Yeah, but if you ask individuals about what we like you'll just get our preferences. Your therapists aren't giving you tools to make you hot because they are trying to help you unpack your underlying anxiety. If you were less chewwing your own foot off with worry you would have more energy to pick and decide a flattering cut, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 11:13 AM
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"Patriarchy" wasn't about impressing the hot chicks, it's a method of rulership where a few men rule over other men and women, typically through a family clan. That's where women are only some of the spoils, but also land or territory, property and so on. A thirst for social power and territory exists in other primates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 02:31 AM
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Maybe if you were better at negging we wouldn't be insulted. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 12:14 AM
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Seconding the motion for a unicorn cursor. I feel it would be in the spirit of the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 06:53 PM
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And you think that these guys you had to put up with were accessible to the messages of feminism, and that moar feminism would have prevented them from treating you the way they did? Moving to a place with more progressive attitude towards both conduct and social policy did. I've found men are remarkably fluid in expression of impulse control and appropriate sexual conduct based on their accepted norms. Why do you think were women more or less willing to put up with patriarchal domination for mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 02:59 PM
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That sounds like they're the same, just that both genders use a push-pull of dominance through things like banter. I mean, I don't have a dog in this fight (my broader observation of negging in popular discourse is that it tends to get sidetracked into taking her down a peg or two instead of being an antidote to throwing yourself at her feet and clinging to her legs sobbing "love me, why won't you love me?!"), but the vocabulary difference still sounds like a branding distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 12:45 PM
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Okay, this thread is going to get top heavy, stuff's going to get missed, apologies in advance. I strongly doubt that it really had a tangible effect on lower class women Heeeeeey, guess who spent a good percent of her life shit poor in the Maritimes and is qualified to speak on that subject! My experience with the whole thing, from barriers to abortion and reproductive health, to the shit I dealt with for being a clever girl child, to my initiation into the opposite sex including sexual assault…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 12:42 PM
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Also, camera guys of the kind who take selfies of them operating the camera in a mirror. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 01:23 AM
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True, although I think guys are way picker than TRP gives them credit for, so I think we're on the same page
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 01:05 AM
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"It's great you're into self improvement! A lot of people would be unable to stay motivated if they had as much as you to work on." /calls you a demeaning but cute nickname "shortstuff" "Napoleon" "Cyclops". (End neg)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 01:03 AM
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Uh... What's the distinction?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 12:58 AM
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Whoops, thought you were OP!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 12:56 AM
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Social "game" is part of my toolkit- I am aggressive about my seductions. I don't think I'm ugly, but certainly how I behave matters in bedding and mating. I'm saying that all you have observed is that the guys you want aren't responding to what you are trying, but you are limiting your selection pool. It's possible more than just your looks are disqualifying, you unless you are actively disfigured.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 12:55 AM
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Well, how do you know what you say won't, if you limit your testing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 12:45 AM
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Reading between the lines, your problems are emotional health related and you are using a power dynamic to try to self medicate. The reason why the various RPW have careers and so forth is because trying to subvert the self into another human being is self destructive behaviour. You've then turned to purple for reassurance, but this is the wrong place for that. We don't even agree that wife goggles are a thing. We are also not equip to be a therapy group.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 10:48 PM
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Wait, I thought any woman could get dick by existing...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 10:35 PM
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Whether it's stuff that's one's own responsibility, or stuff that's just the consequence of unfortunate circumstances that aren't really about gender. That's kind of a point in dispute, but also I feel like I encounter a lot of people who think the Patriarchy is some sort of conspiracy group like the Illuminati for sexism. When feminists talk about patriarchy they mean the attitude that women are a controllable resource in a competition between men, and the consequences, both well meaning and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 01:59 PM
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The realities of sexism tend to be more complicated- feminism is just a convenient rallying point in which to exert leverage and gain momentum. The closest to feminism-as-a-life-choice I do is hanging around in locations that consider feminism one of many guiding principles. TrollX, not TwoX, for example. This moves into "but you don't need to be a feminist to be a feminist!" or the "I'm not a feminist but..." There's a lot to unpack in your post, so I'll do my best to address as much as possibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:43 PM
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Wow, we've just skittered off into accusations of sexism, from calling your debating partner trashy. And we've wandered wildly off topic into views I've never expressed any endorsement for. How is this a productive conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 02:27 AM
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I'm sorry, we will discuss this when you can avoid getting emotional about the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 02:00 AM
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Y'all can call me blooper, but I draw the line at calling you "twerps". If I'm going to insult you I can think of more creative invectives and while blooper almost feels affectionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 12:49 AM
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Share!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 12:43 AM
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Unsolicited dick pics are like whipping it out at the restaurant. Obviously I don't actually want a picture, but if I actually want something to do with the guy, a well shot nude with dick as the focus can be very nice. For example Gentleman sent me one after I sent him a lingerie pic when we started seeing each other as an "I approve!" But by that point me I'd already dined on cream of mushroom, if you catch my drift. The trick is context, and framing. For example if you check my tumblr porn pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 10:47 PM
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How would you define loyalty?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 09:00 PM
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The 50Shades guy was stark raving insane, to the point of having a mess of intimacy phobias and touch issues, he was a molestation victim with mommy issues. The 'taming' aspect of the story was a lot more about the fantasy of addressing a very damaged person than him stopping being a sociopath. On that point, you can help a partner, but you can't take complete responsibility for their development, because you are too close to the person to be an effective therapist. However men appear to lean he…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 08:58 PM
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There were lots of strange customs back then And Those laws weren't implemented to keep women down. Show you really don't understand how sexism works. There wasn't a time when people sat down and went "grrrr, those women, let's oppress them!" Nobody is arguing that, it's a straw man. The various people who were slaves were also placed so because it was believed they were subhuman and needed a master to guide them. Similarly it wasn't like a bunch of white people sat down and said 'you know what …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 08:46 PM
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Also, pics. For, you know, science. /creep emoji
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 08:45 PM
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I think that's the point where theory hits personal preference- and the effort is to deal with discussing the split between guys who approach the topic with the idea that any sex, outside of sex with them, marks a woman as an unstable partner, and those who are more generous (and in my perception realistic) with what they'll tolerate. I see the ones looking for a youthful submissive virginal sex maniac as sensible as a woman waiting around for the 6'+ doctors who are also extremely good looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 07:10 PM
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Well, at that point the whole thing needs restructuring because the question becomes: which would you rather marry for the rest of your life: "a man you don't find attractive who lavishes you with money, or a man you find attractive." Most women aren't into sex work, and the ones that are, well we know from the forum here they don't marry their clients. The OP's question is "which would you rather, an unknown quantity who is a virgin or a known quantity who is not." so trying to make an equivale…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 06:35 PM
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That's my point, just that raw length in inches is not good shorthand for a good lover, as cheap a cliché it might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 05:35 PM
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You know for the period you are describing respectable women didn't travel without an escort? That we have numerous records that, as it became available, anything other than simple letters and figures was considered inappropriate by many people? You are correct, that everyone did some form of labour. However women were effected by inheritance laws and tradions that rarely left them with property, and gave them in guardianship to male caretakers. They did not control their wages or their labour. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 03:27 PM
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... Have you actually read anything written about the subject of educating women over that century? I'm seriously curious, because it was a well recorded struggle over the century you are asking us to consider. More to the point, in the era you are asking us to look at, very few people worked outside the home because even skilled tradespeople worked in their homes and lived in or above their businesses. This hypothetical carpenter we're talking about lived with his apprentices and family, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 01:14 PM
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Honestly I prefer a wider, shorter penis. I don't like cervix punching and the sensation of fullness is nice. Particularly if the head is big and flared so it sort of pulls on the back stroke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 12:46 PM
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That's kind of an "of course, duh" question. Having done laundry entirely by hand and carpentry work entirely by hand, I'll take the hammer over the washtub any day. Doing laundry by hand, particularly if I'd be using the soaps of the period, is also physically punishing activity, only it paid less, and it's cold, damp and much of the prestige is missing. You seem to be under the impression that female labour of the period was any more sheltered. It wasn't, and there was a lot of task overlap. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 10:49 AM
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So does TRP cause most people to go cold and cynical after a bit? TRP favours two kinds of paths, the one where you're snarking to your buddies because you enjoy the positive attention, and it becomes a competition to say edgy things; and the kind where you decide some of it is applicable or is a good rule of thumb even if it's not actually true, and just sort of hand wave away things that don't fit. As purple demonstrates, plenty of TRP affiliated people have the same human depth everyone else …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 12:31 AM
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Early 30s. He also has an unpleasant autoimmune disorder. Look, there's a point where you don't need to worry about it being true if it causes you emotional distress. If how you get into relationships works, then it is largely unimportant if a bunch of TRP guys do things differently. I take breaks from Purple whenever this stops being an exercise in visiting a foreign culture, and I start seeing people as hateful jerks. Similarly, for all we have cultural wank about dark trooths, there's so many…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:33 PM
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That's a point in common dispute here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:12 PM
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Gentleman has a generalised anxiety disorder and a small army of young, attractive women after him. I wrote this with him lying with his head on my lap. Severity of these things matters, but don't think you can't have meaningful, healthy relationships because you need affection and support. That being said, don't get caught in the loop of trying to argue with a reality that you are frightened might be true by further imersing yourself in the ideas of that reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:10 PM
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You still need someone to try them with, and particularly with kink that newness can often lead to very charming enthusiasm. "You mean I can actually hit you as hard as I like?!" Or things they were not expecting, like "Wow, a heavy flogger is a really relaxing massage."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:26 PM
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It's possible I could have achieved that, but it was an uphill battle to which, historically, feminism has been a companion. For example I don't think all my interest in sexual health would have flown without activists like Sanger, and getting an education and a job that wasn't menial is challenging. One thing a lack of feminism would contribute is a need to be independently wealthy or secure an indulgent male guardian as my sponsor. Basically I might have done it with a disability, but why is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:28 PM
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Yes, combined with my fondness for oral sodomy, I would be okay. The rate is 4% success if you actually do it properly according to planned parenthood, which given my partner's evident self control, and other home remedies as backup (sponge soaked in lemon juice, douching), we'd take the risk. That's only a few percent worse than my current setup on the (mini)pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:57 PM
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Yes. I've done hand carpentry before, part of the legacy of the brief flirtation my grandmother had with lesbian separatism. I know I'm on the stronger side among women so assuming roughly the same physical configuration I'd be okay. On the one hand, I'm not as strong as men, on the other hand I can do more with less calories. So hey, I'm functionally cheaper to keep alive! The thing about a lot of the professions of the past is that we know women did them as part of the family owned business. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:49 PM
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You mean 1800 level technology, but complete egalitarianism and social mobility? Practicer of the withdrawal method, happily married to a skilled tradesman (whitesmith) or clerk, whether Gentleman did his historical family trade or the 1800s version of his current job. Depending on which side of the family tree you climb, of course, the resources I'd have based on family ties would vary but we both have a branch that got off the farm pretty early. Shoemakers, etc... Gentleman descends from a lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:21 PM
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How many floggers do you have hanging off the belt of your utilikilt, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:54 PM
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That's what I've noticed in that feminism always looks at things on a personal level but not on a societal level. Well, not having my life limited by the strictures of reduced opportunity, I went on to become a community organizer and my volunteer work provides a community for a hundred or so people, I fucked a handful of dudes, including collecting a couple of virginities (it's nice not to get penalized for being sexually giving) and providing people with relationships that were emotionally mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 12:42 PM
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Speaking as a woman who tends to gravitate to positions of responsibility and authority (it's what you do, right?), who benefits greatly from sexual freedoms, and who was a pretty clear cut case of a guy getting a financial abortion (he wanted backsies two decades later, but then again he also got himself a well turned out daughter at no effort on his part) and had to rely on the sort of social programming that gets sneered at regularly as a result... Without feminism, I'd have ended up marrying…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 10:39 AM
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Every guy has to learn me anyways, so practical level of experience has never mattered. Gentleman had 10 years of solid monogamy to my six years of fuzzy monogamy, with someone as vanilla as a cheap birthday cake. I have had absaloutely no problems with "try all the things, whee!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 10:11 AM
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Oh come on! I mention being into S&M and I'm a weird outlier. Half the population of TRP seems to want to spank and tie, and it's just treated like bonus. I call shenanigans! Hax! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 10:06 AM
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The trouble with that is you are actually licking it off a condom if you are being a grownup about your ladyladydude action and condoms are oral sex killers because lube is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:48 AM
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Yeah, a lot of people have weird body horror about stuff. It's like how some guys are horrified to be reminded about menstruation and some are completely indifferent to dipping for sharks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:46 AM
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Pearl's Guide to Attracting Men The first thing you have to keep in mind is that men are not a monolith. The idea that many billion people from a range of cultures and access to technological development would want to have the same conversation is absurd. A Shengzou factory manager, a Dalet caste street cleaner from Utter Pradesh, a Nigerian IT worker, an under employed but popular Canadian artist and an aboriginal living on the Amazon might have a Y chromosome but they aren't going to all talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:13 AM
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I think most men can find a man who will fuck them. Try craigslist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:30 PM
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Ha! Score one for team openly feminist. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 01:40 AM
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nope. the man will use the term literally to mean women that have sex without commitment, and will be horrified to even think that his own sister is that stupid. Okay the "yes it is, no it isn't" think isn't going to get either of us anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 04:18 PM
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It's not really a "pussy cartel", it's a status hierarchy that both men AND women use. The same guy who'll sneer and call women he sleeps with sluts will typically punch you if you tell him his sister has more lovers than fingers. Of course it would be silly to claim women aren't involved in this process, but it's not as simple as "bitches are bitches" either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 04:07 PM
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Men cannot say the same. Both men and women can always find men who will treat them like a fucking orifice. Somehow this fact is supposed to comfort women and frighten men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 12:09 PM
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Mate selection is complicated because sex serves so many different roles to people, from a method of nurturing to a way of expressing power. People generally form family units with people of similar backgrounds- most people are looking for someone who is similar enough to be tribe but different enough not to be incest. Some people are outbreeders or inbreeders. Usually people run multiple sexual scripts simultaneously and may have primary or secondary sexuality, for example resorting to homosexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 12:07 PM
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Agreed, and to expand on your point, if you look at a history of pornography, although there is a great deal of variation in sexual behaviour, a repetitive narrative is the promiscuous female heroine's life, as told in vignettes. This is not to say that humans operate in a state of sexual free-for-all, it's just that there's clear evidence that there's nothing universally wrong on the subject. Hell, we can't even get a universal on what "slut" means, and the pejorative can easily be attached to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 11:56 AM
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Just state your point and we'll go from there. I stated my point several times. From there you started grabbing random things that had nothing to do with your point and asking me to tell you their veracity in relation to my point. You debate my position as it is stated, not every single thing ever said that can be remotely tangentially related to the discussion since 1750. :P Considering an idea is not an endorsement of that idea. You know if it's the quickest go to answer to a problem's cause, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 11:48 AM
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The RPW experiment was interesting, but taught me that it is a faith based subreddit more so than being concerned with particulars. When you try to apply it to real life, outside "have yoy tried not being a jerk?" advice, it rapidly explodes into untestable abstracts. However the idea that they are brainwashed morons is ridiculous and sexist. RPW are quite capable of making their own choices. It is a pity that all the male spouse pleasing groups have to have some ideology or a fixation on submis…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 12:01 AM
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Is there a reason why she shouldn't consider that variable? Allowing for the fact that you are failing to answer my question... It gets considered to be a variable, but from personal experience I can literally dance naked inches away from a guy's crotch without getting my ass grabbed. Entitled assholes cause trouble, not mini-skirts. :P I'm not going to get into more than the basics of why garment blaming isn't a sensible way of dealing with things if you're going to keep changing the subject or…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 12:10 PM
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He's the one who brought up polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 10:04 AM
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You did a lot a giant leaps of logic- for example which variables could be blamed for sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 10:03 AM
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Would you say all men grab ass without consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 12:33 AM
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Why would it make the "problem" worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 08:12 PM
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Would two husbands work as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 07:52 PM
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You keep trying to drag me into defending the position of other people, going in so far as to cite them. I am not of the position that abuse is a uniquely female situation. Abuse tends to follow opportunity, but not everyone will take that opportunity because personality is variable. You are going to need to be more specific, though, in so far as the inherent evil you think lurks within me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:33 PM
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That's a case of anecdote VS anecdote though. But as per your claim of induced desires: My sexual desire exists in the absence of men- just in term of getting clitoral erections or wanting or masturbate more or less based on internal desires. I don't feel a compulsion to submit to anyone, man or woman. The only count argument there is to say it is simply a matter of "yet", but having a rich life of sexual perversion and libertine desire, I seem to have an inherently nurturing urge, the desire to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:25 PM
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I don't know you, however reasons why I want to get married include: 1) So I determine what happens to him if/when he gets sick, not his parents. 2) So if I go to law school and he supports me he can sue me for alimony if I shamelessly take advantage of him. And one supposes vice versa. 3) So if I continue to write he can easily inherit my ongoing royalties. It's a small sum but why not? 4) To fill my family's and friend's secular need for social ritual. 5) To hash out a legal contract regarding…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:17 PM
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Nope, looking at a series of abusive relationships in your life, including having been a victim of child abuse as part of a pattern is pretty standard therapy advice. Not because everyone is a potential abuser who needs the right parameters to induce abuse, but because long term exposure tends to dull your instincts. I'm not sure I understand your question- there might be a typo there?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 05:41 PM
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You are the one trying to provide an accurate description for my behaviour based on gender. I'm not remotely that ambitious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 05:32 PM
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Are you sure that's not the women you are selecting for? I mean if you are having a pattern of abusive relationships, the common therapy advice to to look at your own behaviour and try to figure out why you are reliving the same scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 02:26 PM
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An assertion with nothing to back it up. We're going to put this in the same camp as "You might be gay, you just haven't met the right man yet!" and "How do you know there is no giant purple dragon that eats teapots?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 01:51 PM
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What in the what what? That sounds like a giant begged question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 01:36 AM
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Mmm, if it weren't for the whole feminism thing it would nice to have a place to hang out to talk about being nice to my partner. I don't even think I'm bad at it, just as RPW observed there is a dearth of secular communities that combine an interest in femme with the sort of nice/cozy/nurturing I like. You're right that I don't feel at all compelled to be led though!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:35 PM
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Would you say the same applies to RPW, that the group is usually stretching towards an ideal they don't yet embody? What percent of each group would you say have "made it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:04 PM
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Catcalling isn't just about expecting sex with me, though. Possibly following me around trying to discuss my ass with me, yes, but the guys who lean out of a car going "wooooooo" are not expecting any woman to run after them going "wait, wait I love you!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 01:26 PM
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Oh, very sexist! But when you don't depend on men and you watch some of the shit they deal with, you get skewwed ideas. Plus, unrelated to the feminism, my mom was a bit of a man eater. I worked hard on losing that notion and seeing men as equals. I still fuck up sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 10:30 PM
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Any effort to enact TRP as per my RPW experiment quickly runs into an absence of concrete advice, and things get slippery, while the audience blames the people testing it for being the wrong sort of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 06:24 PM
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Critics of TRP don't object to that, they generally object to other things like women being called the "oldest teenager in the house" and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:30 PM
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If you ever want to watch a cultural appropriation person implode, try to talk to them about the sexism in drag culture, where men perform as women for the purpose of comedy or to appropriate the voice of women for their own words. It's mean, but it's difficult to resist doing to someone who is too up on their high horse about the subject of who is stealing from what.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:30 PM
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It's okay, society already rewards me for having a healthier BMI than my softer bodied female friends. I have 'thin' privilege. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:24 PM
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No you aren't. You're still going to be an utter crankypants if I tell you: I want a man who is at least vaguely shaped like a carrot. I prefer Semites, have fucked two continental Europeans, but I also like East Asians . I have a preference for long arm bones and am indifferent to height. Thinner is better, willowy and elfin, with huge eyes. Please know how to dress yourself to impress. I'll compromise on the physical if your brain delivers a high level of written communication ability, imagina…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:22 PM
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My SO leans more towards me getting a tubal in the long run than him getting a vasectomy, but he has enough surgical shit in his life as it is that I feel a degree of sympathy. I might get a tubal snip done, but the pill agrees with me for non-contraceptive reasons, so I'll probably just take it until menopause and discuss my options then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:12 PM
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"Women are disadvantaged in every way". Nope. There's nothing wrong with my brain. Physical strength isn't actually that relevant for most of the problems I have to deal with and I get lots of health related advantages. There's some stupid social shit, as well a perception based on my gender, and there's the sex thing, but, for example, being a woman doesn't give me a disadvantage as a writer, and artist, in my technical ability, my ability to form logical thoughts, etc... Sure getting published…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:07 PM
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Because it heralds a better outcome in the kids, as well as the sort of shared values that matter for precisely the reason you are involving your parents in your sex life. You are not buying a body. You are adding to your clan as an investment. If you don't want an educated woman, don't marry one, but I find it weird I, a white person, whose culture gave up on arranging marriages centuries ago, has to tell you how this shit works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 10:08 AM
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Well, no. edit But don't let reality get in tge way of an elaborate fantasy of my personal life. Never mind that one of my biggest relationship problems is that all the girls lining up for him think we're a package deal and I have to gently get accross that I'm only moderately bi. But yeah, clearly this is all just an elaborate ploy to make some poor beta tolerate my evil plot to um... Have hypothetical sex I might want down the line rather than being his perspective on jealousy and a huge helpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 10:01 AM
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I'm sorry I don't think I understand what you are getting at. Could you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:54 AM
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How do you know he wants to be the dominant bull, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:54 AM
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/shrugs No, more that I have been handed this infinite freedom and it didn't turn into him watching me mount a series of studs while being left out in the cold, which was where we came in. But really, there was so much pillfluff in your last post I thought you were being sarcastic or it was some sort of parody and I was checking to see if you blew a rivet or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:52 AM
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But the guy is already married to her, and more often than not the lady half of the couple is the one coaxed into it. They clearly can and do fuck her. Sure the scenario is built on weird ass male insecurity, but it is only possible in the boundaries of her wanting him there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:03 AM
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Wat?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:55 PM
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It's not about literally not feeling you measure up, it is about enjoying the scenario. It's like asking why someone would want to watch a movie. Or say, why someone would want to play any character in a movie than the hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 10:55 PM
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I don't think you understand the nature of the fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:09 PM
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You're getting repetitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 03:59 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 03:49 PM
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Yes, that's how we try to deal with it. That's fairly healthy for both genders. Boundaries about people being stupid are a unisex thing we can all appreciate. Look, common ground! women just aren't sane and rational. All 3.5 billion of us?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:59 PM
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I'm not even sure what you're implying. People have different spectrum of how adventurous they are, and this is not directly slaved into how emotionally monogamous they are. In all the poly scenarios I have observed, outside the context of /r/relationships where the relationship is one having an issue by the nature of the sub, you either have a core pair who are fairly heavily bonded or a family group that's basically your fuck-tribe- or some shade within that boundary. Many, many people have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:57 PM
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If being "alpha" is defined by "any man who is not a blithering idiot".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:48 PM
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God forbid someone with actual personal experience with the scenario weigh in! That would be the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:27 PM
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The guys generally don't have small dicks or anything emotionally wrong with them, that's the hilarious part. And that's even if the woman in question is getting a "hall pass" scenario and he's not lurking the closet jerking off. If you lay out your shingle as a promiscuous lady, the noise to signal ratio tends to be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:26 PM
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If you've let a sexual interest develop into a fetish Fetishes are a lot more like being gay, you can't just willpower them away. It takes a hell of a dude to be able to pull off a cuck scenario, much like the ultra-masochists who are still hard after getting the crap beaten out of them remain really impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:23 PM
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This. Similarly a woman who gets off on sharing is not the same as a woman condoning affairs because she feels like she has no choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 01:53 PM
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The fact of the matter is all she is going to care is getting laid and women have a massive advantage there. I have a complete carte blanche to fuck whom I choose, as long as I'm safe about it. I haven't yet met a guy who makes me inclined to take him up on it because my pleasure matters to me more so than just strange cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 01:51 PM
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You mean like cuckold fetishists? I laugh because their biggest problem tends to be the shortage of bulls that are actually able to even fake being the superior he man manly alpha that the guy's fantasy wants him to be. The most common complaint about couples looking for a bull is to wonder what the hell is wrong with the guys looking for promiscuous no strings sex that they can find.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 01:48 PM
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I've never met a pedestal dude who did not think the pedestal was also a heavy thing he could hit other men with. It tends to go hand in hand with special snowflake style "not like other boys!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 01:44 PM
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Eh, you tend to get three possible directions guys can take this, particularly faced with a badly behaved woman: 1) I'm a MAN and WOMAN is a crazy, delicate, wannabe submissive governed by feelings. I just need to Man at you because your behaviour is governed by the vagina pixies who need my logic penis to function. 2) I'm male, I have my shit I like, and my experience with people tells me that your stupid is stupid on its own merits. GTFO. 3) Women are teh angels I adore, please, dear creature …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 01:20 PM
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Maleness is either shit that just happens or it's something a guy works really hard on. There is a difference between performance masculinity and behaviours that are common to many/most men. The more invested a guy is in seeming as masculine as possible and the more weight a guy puts into his own gender identity being distinct, the more likely he is to interpret my behaviour based on being female, not being human. So a guy with a lot of interactions with women and little concern or interest in b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:57 PM
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Indeed, sorry some of us find this charming. It's cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:24 PM
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Yeah, no silky hippy locks like in my grandparent's generation!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:23 PM
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We in the colonies approve of your tea empire! God save the Queen, and bless my dear caffeine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:21 PM
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I really like it that way. It's not like the local blokes (or women) don't know how to communicate interest without screaming "this is my territory and you are part of my purview!" It is not like any of the guys still doing that expect me to be all: "Oye, niño grande, voy a insertar mi consolador grueso en su agujero de espera. ¿Usted está lubricado y listo?" At least not anymore than the drive by honk'n'screams expect me to chase after their car going "Wait, wait, I love you!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:20 PM
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Actually when we do that, we see that as very, very male, and are bitching that we wished their priorities were more in line with our equally frivolous feminine ones. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:09 PM
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I find the less "masculine" invested a guy is, the less likely he is to put me on a pedestal and the more likely he is to expect me to be sane and rational. The maleness quotient doesn't change, but I like that the less gender invested guys understand women better as people rather than a concept and tend to have a much lower bullshit tolerance. For example if I started hurling crockery around the average guy in my cohort, he wouldn't think women are passionate, he'd think I needed to STFU and ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:07 PM
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'S true, to minimize divorce the statistically least likely partner would be an older woman with a high level of education who does not work outside the home after a marriage in which you did not live together until after the wedding. :P But trying to come up with an explanation for the education thing, although having other options and opportunities may make it easier for a person of either gender to jump ship, certainly post secondary ed is helped by having an ability to commit yourself, as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:41 AM
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I think that if you are trying to arrange a marriage in a culture which tries to make marriage as permanent as possible, having someone kick your metaphorical tires is par for the course. If you want to be treated like a good prospect you need to actually be a good prospect and if a family values education in their daughter they are going to want someone who matches, both so you share her/their values and to create grandkids according to their values. Of course feminist discussions on education …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:22 AM
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You don't see me asking men not to commit assault I guess you aren't really interested in leading people or dealing with underlying causes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 07:16 PM
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Quality is pretty good. Includes a good scope of well educated attractive doods who get laid easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 07:06 PM
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"Male privilege is categorical and absolute, even in first world countries." No. The subject didn't come up. More like - you don't need men. You might want them, but they aren't important. The metamessage was on the fragility of men, not their evil. And not poor impulse control brute either, just "poor little things, awww, they need us so!" "Pornography and prostitution are wrong because they promote violence against women." No. Sex positive feminism. o_O "Men are the cause of much of the world'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:42 PM
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Less tongue in cheek, what sort of indoctrination do you think I got?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:16 PM
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/coquettishly swings a hairy leg, warming herself on the fire of a smouldering bra as she drinks a mug of male tears. "Bring it.'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:13 PM
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Focus on everyone. You're a possible assault victim too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:45 PM
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You can't eradicate all crime, but you can change the variables that encourage a behaviour, and given plenty of evidence that covering and hiding doesn't actually help, I'm interested in trying an alternative solution. It's not like I'm not already living my life according to avoiding sexual assault, but I will continue to push against the walls that hold me in because I care about my liberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:37 PM
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Terrible metaphor, unlike a bike, my sexuality is grafted to my body and is an impossible thing to actually remove from consideration. You saw how stupidly thirsty guys got just at the idea of my picture when there's loads of prettier women on /r/realgirls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:30 PM
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I should be able to wear whatever I like Yes. Yes I should be. Assuming consent from a pair of pants is moronic and arbitrary, and establishing a social norm that there's no such thing as a consent costume is a good thing. Certainly burka/chador cultures don't exactly experience better outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:24 PM
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Learn how to give clear, unambiguous removal of consent I am, I'm interested in making sure that society actually understands the concept of consent and can't hide behind "sometimes men just get horny" or "that's how women show they are interested". Going on a march is the exact opposite of absolving yourself of responsibility. It's disagreeing with you on the fundamental source of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:09 PM
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that they have agency over their safety The "protect your candy" advice is a problem because it doesn't help or allow you to function, because wherever you set the boundary becomes fungible. Part of this pushback is because the parameters of safety are what make some cultures swathe you in fabric and put you in the custody of male relatives. If you've ever done anything nudist related, you'll very quickly get an idea of how un-erotic the body can be and how contextual sexuality it. But even beyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:36 PM
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SJW is a pejorative. It's like asking TRP why they would be offended if someone called them a pig or something equally ridiculous. I'm anti-racism, sexism, etc... and I don't want anyone calling me a SJW, or a feminazi or any other discussion shuttering insult. Similarly I avoid tossing around pejoratives that might shut down discussion with people I disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 12:39 PM
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Slutwalks are EXPLICITLY about the idea that someone could be asking for it in dress or conduct. Parading in the clothes you were raped in and carrying a sign explaining that is not remotely concerned with what makes you sad about a woman's relationship VS sex prospects with you. I don't care if you don't want to marry me because I am what even a liberal and generous culture would call a "slut". I'm more worried that naked pictures of me can be weaponized against me, that police and other people…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 12:33 PM
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Like many people who were raised with a feminist background, I tended to take it for granted as just how the world worked- but also that it was taken care of already. Teenage me tested her boundaries by exploring gender outside of the sort of perspective rad-fem would produce. (Child me preformed her feminism by demanding the same responsibilities as my male classmates. I wanted to move chairs and carry stacks of textbooks too and would lispingly explain we hadn't hit puberty yet so it was even …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 12:19 PM
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If you buy a cheap suit or a poorly fitted to one, yes. Otherwise suits are actually known for making virtually any man look better because they are designed to emphasise a male shape. Formal wear for women can often be achieved more cheaply if you are good at choosing clothes, but it has a lower price tag that goes with the expectation of changing it up a lot more. The "Little Black Dress" is a wardrobe staple precisely because it is supposed to be the least memorable item and thus allowed for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 10:52 AM
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Get a good hairstylist/barber and ask their advice. It's a matter of practice- all the guys I know with good hair know what the hell they are doing. The right products make a difference, as does respecting the natural texture of your hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:26 PM
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I must have ridiculous SMV, given that I get commitment thrown at me constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:17 PM
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I think I missed a sentence in my response to you, as I edited/wrote it on my phone- in that I'm not sure we did not have to live our errors to be able to learn from them. I think being wrong path is a symptom of the starting material you are working with and is often because you are not ready to deal with something different. Now I didn't encounter the idea that breakups were the guy's fault, just the idea that I should have incredibly low expectations as per the examples of all the relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 03:29 PM
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Scary women with anxiety disorders and depression! You never know when they're going to have a panic attack about a birthday party or lie on the couch all week with unwashed hair!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 07:16 PM
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http://advance.cornell.edu/documents/ImpactofGender.pdf http://www.nber.org/papers/w5903 That's just a few studies. Note that this is something that is correctable and can even lead to interesting effects when people are aware of biases, for example a study of the behaviour of contestants on the "Weakest Link" television show uncovered a positive bias towards not voting black players off and a negative bias towards hispanic players. People are not very good at equality. They get it wrong, a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 04:53 PM
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Unsurprised, a lot of us rely on perception of positive sexism as part of our internalized gender identity and safety heuristics. This is not shocking. Plus we tend to associate claims of 100% neutrality as dog whistles used to hide sexism, since where you find a measurable bias (say rating an applicant's fitness for a position, with gender as the variable and identical applications) the people doing it will use things that sound like equality oriented critique to disqualify someone female more …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 04:01 PM
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Thus, an equalist campaign Except the actual current "equalists", humanists, tend to advocate shorter prison times for everyone. You're not going to get a movement that wants a strict status quo, movements get infected with the pet causes of the right or the left based on how they shake down what their priorities are. Thus increasing prison time for women does nothing to help the overall life condition of everyone unless your starting position is longer sentences, which we don't have a consensus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:56 PM
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Nah, be generally put that under the heading of "positive sexism", and consider it inherently noxious as well. The assumption that women have no normal range of aggression, for example, hampers us. There's a lot of different perspectives to go into that, you have the femininity is an evil construct folks, and you have the femaleness and by extension femininity is devalued folks, and within feminism that's a source of a great debate. Eg: "I have better things to do than wear makeup!" "But makeup …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:48 PM
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The joke was the other girls are beta and you are trying to get the alpha, yes. I'm teasing you about hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 10:15 AM
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A lot of the problem with expecting the lonely virgin thing to be banished at the touch of a woman is that I have never seen a scenario where adding one woman solves the underlying issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:01 PM
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How about if she sexually assaults you? That's more likely than falsely accusing you of rape. And if you think men with a rep get a shitty deal, dealing with sexual assault as a man makes dealing with the psychological aftermath of rape as a woman look like a day at the spa. At least we don't have to deal with people denying it could happen at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 01:29 PM
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Likewise, this is a very good deal for us sex fiend pervert folks. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 01:22 PM
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Alpha ring, beta fling. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 01:21 PM
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You aren't supposed to give up on self improvement if you have a somebody. That's for your sake, not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 01:20 PM
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The time to mature VS idealism thing. Agreed! Judging from Gentleman's self report (awkwardness and all), I'd pursue him at any stage, and probably suit each other very well. But we did so much growing up separately too. I'd love to spare us both a super shitty long haul monogamy situation we made a mistake on (met his ex, she is beautiful and utterly insane, mine was... A testament to my loyalty but not my self respect).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 01:19 PM
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Yeah, meeting you guys half way, its very important for me to affirm my partner's needs, wants and capacity to get things done. I owe it to them to have clear, reasonable boundaries, but it is vital to support them if you want any measure of trust. Gentleman needs to feel safe knowing I can let shit go and respect his judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:13 PM
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My Gentleman is perfectly capable of dominance. Rather good at it, actually. He just expresses the full spectrum of human emotions with me and has better shit to do than boss a grown ass adult, because he knows I respect him regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:09 PM
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Even the simple fact that you told your guy: "hey you be in charge," is evidence of your dominance. RPW specifically says your guy doesn't have to be TRP to do it, its about self improvement. It did not improve me OR my relationship. As far as my 'dominance', that presents a chicken & egg question that makes it impossible to secede control. That being said, he was consenting, and his choice was to react how he wanted to. that might be evidence of RP not being for you Evidently not better as per …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:48 PM
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Died from lack of organizational support for wazzup, the chief dude responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:41 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2wokrw/rpwexperiment_week_4conclusion/ Guess who documented it in detail!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:32 PM
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I already did a RPW experiment for a month. It did not improve things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 06:04 PM
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The low budget version involves being a very good male dom in a stable relationship who goes to play parties. If you are in the youth scene not the older folk scene you get a steady stream of women conventionally attractive women who want to treat you like a human Hitachi. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:44 PM
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Uh... There is no evidence that this should effect one's sexual response, though. I fall in love like any normal person, and although I place on the autism spectrum it is relatively mild. I think that's kind of a cop out. :P Don't fall into the trap by trying to define a person by a single factor- I have autism but you can't explain the entirety of my existence with it, anymore than my mild myopia does, or the fact that I'm pale. The bad sex insecurity follows that if I'm getting properly docked…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 11:47 AM
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Funny, I must be wired wrong. The shittier the sex the less loved I feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 02:06 AM
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Evidently the point is that you can slay mad pussy and still accomplish things?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 11:42 PM
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Uh, Einstein did no such thing, dude fucked... A lot. So did MLK as mentioned in the prior post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 11:23 PM
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Co-habbing is getting married where I live, minus a few benefits/responsibilities. Marriage is that thing you do where you feel like throwing a party for family and friends. Or to expand on that, do you know anyone you want to invite to a wedding? Do you have a tribe that cares about any family you make?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 11:09 PM
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'Tis all good fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:35 PM
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If you aren't good enough at sleuthing to find the Pearl pics, you don't deserve to have 'em...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:16 PM
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Sooo. Thirsty. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:53 PM
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Hold on a moment, I need to gain fifty pounds, buzz my hair and jam a few holes into my face, I have a stereotype to fill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 03:42 PM
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/u/Cyralea provided verification, said I was Above Average (TM) Less in character, tongue is firmly in cheek. I do okay enough for everything I want, but I doubt I'll be the next face of Maybelline or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:21 PM
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You are not in a position to really judge anyone that way That's entirely your opinion. You're the one who is trying to force this into a Men VS Women dynamic. Dude, I'm bi. I fuck both genders. I wouldn't want to be friends with or fuck a woman who thought all men (or women) were terrible either. or you are just completely oblivious to the rest of the world around you. Or I'm pointing out something common is also unhealthy. Good advice isn't always going to be easy, you know? You seem awfully m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 01:30 PM
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And they probably aren't ready to date until they grow up a little, particularly since this sort of sexism can lead to bad behaviours or unhelpful ones. Trying to date someone you are also educating is not a good idea- you can't be someone's teacher/therapist and their partner. You can be supportive, of course, and share ideas, but a starting premise where they are getting something fundamentally wrong according to your world view makes it hard not to shade over into contempt or rank pulling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 01:02 PM
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A lot of the successful, confident seeming guys I know are actually the same fragile, vulnerable people underneath. That act isn't sustainable 24/7, no matter what their public face. The most self improving ambitious people I know all have an angry hateful little imp in their heads telling them they're not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 12:55 PM
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Women do not like casual sex, and if they do they are crazy and broken. In all fairness, TRP does not generally dispute this point, even though my observation is that many women adore sex in all it's forms... if it is good sex. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 12:12 PM
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"Do you want your apple juice in the red cup or the blue cup, sweetie?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 12:01 PM
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Which is both unreliable and requires society wide self delusion. It's like if you lived in a hyper religious community where everything was filtered through belief in magic including medical care, only some priests would sneak science based treatments into their rituals- but nobody will admit it's the medicine not the prayer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 11:58 AM
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I am happier in a LTR cozy domestic scenario, but the last decade has involved a lot of growing up, as well as a lot of upheavals, so you are right- although the bones were there to be a good wife, my "dowry" has matured with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 11:46 AM
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Actually, having been a MechEng PhD. plus one, the culture tended to be pair up with similar backgrounds- or she would have a money job, for example undergraduate in math and work as an actuary. Although engineering graduate school paid, it helped to have a wife working, since it did not pay well. But socially, the most common party ice breaker was to ask about my research. Being a floofy artist was not respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 11:38 AM
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In all fairness RPW like to idealize having the personality of a territorial pitbull except being a submissive puddle of goo with Cappy as one route, as well as the other method of everything working out because of their feminine wiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:48 AM
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I thought I was a 6.5 only to discover people think I'm a 9. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:42 AM
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Hey, if he's literally perfect, let's get this over with ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:41 AM
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Sergey is more in line with the guys I find attractive as far as a "type". I've never liked big, blond and blocky, but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 12:21 AM
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I'm not going to do that because that would be silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 09:27 PM
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genuinely good people will talk about how most men are awful TIL sexism is okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:28 PM
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Regarding the relationships that imploded, perhaps some of them were not poisoned, but the advice itself, which is interpreted to become an uncommunicative bully without disagreement from the group, certainly was not a helpful medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:15 PM
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I've also never met a woman who hated men who wasn't a feminist I've met plenty of women who have nothing nice to say about men who are avowed not feminists. At this point we're just arguing about anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:13 PM
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If we assume that those who are not "nice guys" are also not nice Why are we doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:00 PM
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I'm sure my ex interprets my post-breakup attempts at reconciling friendship as immense selfishness too… Hey, that's your personal life. I couldn't begin to comment. simply self destructive or poor advice https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/2nj2ed/my_compilation_of_posts_on_why_trp_is_sexist_and/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:33 PM
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I mean it would be a bad sign for ANYONE.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:22 PM
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I'm sorry, I don't follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:21 PM
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I would describe it as immense selfishness more so than just insecurity. But there's no one-to-one relationship with this experience and my general opposition to TRPish stuff, I either disagree with it on the matter of sexism (oldest teenager in the house) or find some parts of it simply self destructive or poor advice. Of course on the subject of trying to dominate someone into submission- my ex is one data point that you will be unhappy and eventually single. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:21 PM
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If I were a gender neutral energy field from the planet Plyx this would be a bad sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:07 PM
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I'm not sure the two follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:52 PM
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all men to the lowest common denominator "Nice" guys are not all men. They are a minority of men. Most men are just, you know, dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:45 PM
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Gradually escalated negative behaviours, starting with cutesy "oooo, you are so derp!" that moved into "you are completely incompetent because you are derp". An increasing lack of respect followed from there, including escalating laying hands on me; fucking up the shared budget leaving me with the shortfall to figure out; becoming increasingly hostile to my friends in an effort to drive them away; being unable to comfortably let me go out by myself without harassing me; threatening to make me ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:44 PM
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So, would that imply that the women who complain about not finding nice guys aren't really looking hard enough? Probably, or they are in a niche that doesn't encourage meeting people easily. For example if she's in a small town with a meth problem, or there are 300 women and 30 men this can provide additional challenges. the feminist position on "nice guys" "Nice guys" are not nice, they are persons who believe because they are acceptable in conduct they deserve more female attention. However th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:18 PM
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I can find tons of guys with good personalities who are willing to be kind, supportive partners. I would say only one of my past partners was a bad person, and he didn't become one over night, but a little bit at a time over 6 years. I'm a feminist, I've never believed all men are scum. There seems to be an equal number of non-feminists as feminists among the man disliking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 03:57 PM
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I'm a really good writer; a community (dis)organizer; I draw (which is a huge man magnet if you do it in public); I like to go running; I spend too much time on the internet; I twiddle about non-seriously with French and programming, although I have the attention span of a gnat. I make pretty, if not professional grade cakes for people's birthdays, and floofy pancakes and biscuits. I keep a herb garden on my balcony. I like to play LARP/D&D type games and computer games which involve building an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 03:51 PM
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Because all sorts of different men are attractive- humans have many different reproductive strategies. Romance tends to involve hyper-blown overly emotional behaviour as a cheap way of titillating the audience, kind of like how erotic illustration will include genitalia and so forth that is larger than anyone could reasonably expect to have sex with or find attractive on a real human. Both male and female protagonists will do seemingly insane or irrational things, have fights over absurd things …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 02:52 PM
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I think it should be legal. I don't think you're going to get many people who are against it on here in the first place though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 02:34 PM
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Why is it not okay for us to slut-shame, but perfectly fine for you to virgin-shame? Its not, virgin shaming guys is gross and I don't go it. However you do have a few noteable persons providing advice with zero actual experience. This calls their credentials into some question. Did you know that TRP advocates for taking responsibility of your own happiness? Irrelevant. So does any decent advice, of which there is plenty. Why do you waste time on TBP? 'Cuz sometimes the shit people say on TRP is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 01:00 PM
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I think we're probably the wrong people to ask that sort of question but- There's absolutely nothing wrong with you. We just live with the side effects of a culture that spent several centuries deliberately trying to give the impression that the equatorial people were dangerous and inferior to justify owning and controlling them "for their own good". There's nothing particularly 'masculine' about you- this is something that gets applied to the under class of any culture. The idea that there's an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:53 PM
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Lie: Men are horn dogs who will lie to get sex and lack the capacity to love most of the time. They aren't sentimental and live on a diet of beer and sporting events. Reality: Men are very similar to you. They may be operating under a different frame of reference, but most of 'em just want to be be loved and appreciated. When this was busted - first time I talked to a member of the opposite sex. Lie: If you're just sensible about this relationship thing you can get it all straightened out in no …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:21 PM
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The full transcript (http://www.vulture.com/2014/05/read-amy-schumers-ms-gala-speech.html) describes someone who is slightly more coherent/awake than the quotes- HOWEVER still I would consider the guy unable to consent and wouldn't risk it for his sake. Female on male sexual assault is very poorly handled or treated, in part because the assumption that any sex men get is wanted sex. Dealing with a post-sexual assault male victim as a romantic partner was eye opening just how bad the pressure on …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 07:15 PM
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Tea/coffee in the morning, brought to you in bed. Breakfast on the weekends. Someone else thinking about all the little comforts of home. Someone pulling and rubbing your muscles when you have an ache... or just an act of affection. Someone else cleaning the puke you sprayed behind the toilet and calling and telling work you aren't coming in today while you ready another volley.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 06:07 PM
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I think you're arguing about a matter of preference here. I mean I don't need a man for any of the things you listed either, but I'm rather fond of them. The gender differences in upbringing mean, as Cyralea puts it, a refreshing experience. Given only ones own viewpoint one rapidly disappears up one's own butt. As for "marriage", it happens more or less automatically if you cohab with your primary romantic partner, particularly in a region that favours common law. It's not so much that one migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 05:57 PM
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I'm not offended that other women are submissive. I specifically said that TRP had their thing, as do the guys who are into me, which, while it colours discussion, it does not make them or me wrong. Offence is entirely something you are bringing into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:26 PM
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Which is cheerfully ridiculous, since all I means is "I know how to pose", but I suppose besides the point. :P However there are plenty of female specific achievements you can use as general male lures- writer/artist works for both genders, where as a lot of hyper-feminine professions have their uses. Meanwhile depending on the social circumstances, other achievements matter- a TRP guy is not going to be impressed that I just sold 250 self published books in the last quarter because nothing is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:23 PM
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Yes, I'm being a little mean to Dilbert, mea culpa.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:13 PM
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You're going to have to provide actual evidence of this bitterness instead of just tossing it out there along with the allegation of my anger. Otherwise you sound like you are too emotional for this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:12 PM
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"I'm a model" sure as hell piqued a weird amount of interest in guys who already knew what I looked like. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:07 PM
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Why do you want to ruin other womens lives your so pissed What on earth are you talking about? Are you perchance talking to a straw man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:06 PM
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Their level of education/professional life is irrelevant if they can't provide the basics so it really isn't important unless there is a massive gap in the profession(doctor or cleaner type situation etc). Yes, although you will generally see people not going too far outside their bracket. The male doctor probably won't marry a hotel drop out hotel maid. If he lives in a culture that holds both parents of a child accountable for its welfare or is inclined to care about the fate of his offspring,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 02:29 PM
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He got super butthurt and created an alt to try to defend himself when metafilter discussed this piece a long, long time ago. This is old news, much like Dilbert. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:17 PM
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I'm saying that degrees are a matter of competition help for people who have choice and go with expectations of repeated copulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:15 PM
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Just how drunk is the guy in question? I admit this is out of my wheel house because I'm not much of a drinker or involved in drinking cultures, but the point when being liquor'ed up matters is when the person is so incapacitated they lack perception of what's going on. Thus "sleep sex" is also considered exempt even if if the person sleeping is doing the fucking. I think a lot of the problem is that people see "she was drunk" to mean "she was running around going wooooooo! and everything seemed…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:12 PM
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I have a hard time believing the average woman is going to get clitted up just for "I have a Bachelor's in Engineering/English Lit/Business Admin" either, where as the degree thing is about contextual interest. Generally this goes around and around in a circle- "I am a desirable person more so than others because of my accomplishments" "Naw honey, I'm too easy to care!" "But actual people I care about appealing to care!" "No, they don't because I'm easy! We're all easy!" "Yes they do, because me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:33 PM
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Nope, but that's why we have concepts like honour- and external measures like credit score that provide measure of one's reputation. Authority is just people, the argument that there's no "morality police" doesn't really apply to how the world actually functions. These things tend to be one part the weight of popular opinion, one part raw violence. When it comes to sexual/romantic conduct, there is shit that we, as a society have done our best to install external negative consequences to via law…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:16 PM
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My experience with this, as a femdom where there is a lot of overlap, is that the biggest challenge is not that the guy has less experience, its that couples trying to do this can't find bulls that are as attractive to the woman as the original partner is. Particularly if the guy has an inferiority fetish, I find the most common complaint is "wtf is wrong with other men?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:24 PM
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I believe the technical term is "unicorn". ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 07:52 PM
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My dad did the whole skipping a grade in school and gets laid like tile. Starting from being a year younger than his peers and having 16 year old girl pluck his 15 year old virginity. Sounds like a caricature nerd, replete with horrid braying laugh, is all broad shoulders and masculine faced. I have a closet full of trinkets to celebrate my brain and I can work a man until he cums dust. The porn I write thrills people with both its bawdy nature and my writing ability, but leaving aside my creati…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 04:28 PM
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Yup. My escort friends cost a pretty penny. Even the ones who are not the sort of attractive that TRP likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 03:55 PM
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The trick is not, you know, spending a fortune on what is supposed to be a legal recognition of familial connection. If you are not getting something just as nice/thoughtful on gifting holidays (or you don't like gifting for its own sake) you are doing it wrong. But if you persist is trying to have a relationship with the worst sort of grasping, dull person you can hardly expect a different outcome. Myself, I tend to be good at getting prezzies for dudes, and don't seem to attract men just for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 03:54 PM
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I think if you get your advice on women from gift shop coffee mugs and comedy television you might get that impression about the opposite sex, much how men are all supposed to be beer swilling children. Personally I feel like TRP is like jumping from being Protestant to Catholic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 03:20 PM
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I like short men too and have no height preference, but nobody asked me. I would say looking down on short men isn't internalised sexism as much as explicit sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 10:58 PM
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Yes, my Gentleman has cried, whole nine yards. Just before I left for my trip he had to detach me from trying to make myself late fondling and rubbing against his penis and spent the next few minutes teasing me that I have a problem. I think you just date crappy, unsupportive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 05:36 PM
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That "man plan/woman react" model is an over simplification. One of the reasons why women get better health outcomes is because they are more likely to take preventative steps for themselves and people in their care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 11:24 AM
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Helping other people to make yourself feel better is still seeking outside input to effect your emotional state. Just to make sure we aren't talking past each other: The position I occupy re: emotion, are that some are transitory and some are there to motivate action. Mastery is identifying which is what.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 11:12 AM
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Depends on your relationship with the source of the emotion though. Sometimes you need external solutions to your feelings, for example expressing anger in a useful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 02:02 AM
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Autistic people actually aren't unusually rational though. They can be creative and obsessive, but you are just as likely to get someone enumerating Pokémon and being unable to function if they don't get their morning soda in a blue cup as anything else. But rational is related to your ability to regulate emotion and make balanced choices. Making a gendered call on that is harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:59 AM
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Yeah, the problem with the Aspie = no emotion is that people on the autism spectrum are also disproportionately vulnerable to anxiety disorders. The problem is never a lack of emotion, it is more likely to be related to an inability to express emotion in an expected or appropriate manner- eg the correct facial expressions, empathy based reactions, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 09:07 PM
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Me being attracted to them. I'm not going to pursue a relationship with someone I have zero interest in because they think I hung the moon. I will express interest in someone, first move style, when I don't have reason to already think they are interested. I will stop pursuing if my attention is unwelcome. Blooooooo, female
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 06:35 PM
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I participate very little because when I do, the best response I get is "yes, well, you're a special snow flake". At that point its simply not worth continuing because anything I say is being discounted as a weird outlier. That and the rudeness (insults, accusations of bad faith). It's neither entertaining nor interesting- and it largely doesn't cater to my main interest, which is to satisfy my curiosity about TRP without harassing them in their own space.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 06:33 PM
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The post wasn't for you, ma'am. We don't give a shit what you think. I think you posted in the wrong sub then. AND you're still talking to me. Again, if you really gave zero fucks you'd be back in TRP doing your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 05:57 PM
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TRP is not concerned with fairness. We do what we do because it's good for us. We don't need to justify it with anything you gals do. Then stop trying to justify it with "but you do it too!" arguments. You can't have it both ways: if you don't actually need my approval or at least the tacit acceptance through the absence of my criticism, you wouldn't be making (vaguely insulting) noise at me or worrying about my behaviour relative to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 04:47 PM
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This argument is as follows: "Its not fair they do something I disapprove of, I want to do it too!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 10:30 AM
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Okay, correction, you got it out of your butt and a bunch of pop psychology books. In that case I'll see you those and raise you Delusions of Gender, which is a pretty broad overview of the study of neurology VS gender. That's from 2011, by Cordelia Fine. One of the biggest problems with what you are doing is you're leaping from "there are some behaviour differences in the brain, but it is incredibly complicated" to "this stereotype is true and it works like this!" Kindly don't lecture me on kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 02:40 PM
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Uh, you just pulled that out of your butt. As much as psychology is a punching bag for "soft" science, the thing you are describing is not something noted in neurological studies of sex differences, just popular fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 01:29 AM
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That's nothing to do with a woman. I'm just as much a woman, and can be pithy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 01:10 AM
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don't overthink problems at work I don't find men inherently calmer and less neurotic, particularly about work or their social relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 01:08 AM
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Suffice to say, my point holds, I can't just drop down to man-mode by laying off the mascara. It doesn't lose me attention, it just gets me different attention, occasionally negative attention in a manner that a man doesn't deal with. As far as what men versus women do, this is hardly here nor there. I exist in a world with both genders. The idea this is just a critique of the evil mean menz is something you seem to be reading into this on your own. And, for what its worth, shoes like that model…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 10:34 PM
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Because nobody cares about the actual content of my posts, they just want to feel vindicated about their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 12:45 PM
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A couple of the threesomes I didn't know the girl well enough to get chemistry going. If I'm not into it, its the bad sort of ouchy, so I stop. Only Gentleman has managed to give me an orgasm. Usually I see the guy's job as being to make me want one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 12:04 AM
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Stopping wearing makeup doesn't stop men from being sexually interested in me. Femaleness is not something I can turn off just be deciding to skip it. However, not conforming in the fashion expected or your biological gender is usually penalized. Case in point, not shaving my arms pits and legs is considered to be a political act what many people will call disgusting. Dressing in a masculine fashion will make you stick out like a sore thumb and may earn you negative attention for being a "dyke".…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:34 PM
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Haha, noooo, being simply clean and kempt will get me treated like I am ugly, gross and disgusting, through to unprofessional or disrespectful, depending on your audience. I think you lack the frame of reference to discuss this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:04 PM
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Can we quit it with the idea that all women are only putting up with blowing guys as an act of love and that super raunchy porn sex only works for men? I'm a dom, and I adore nahming on dick. And a blowjob is way, way less effort than breaking out the strapon, and certainly more directly physically rewarding. You don't run sex as a quid-pro-quo of awfulness. You do things you both enjoy. People don't deserve sex- that's uncomfortably next door to obligation sex. Nobody should be being coerced in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:47 PM
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I think the point is moot, since needing "validation" about your appearance has a disproportionately practical application to women. If I don't conform to at least the minimal standards of conventionally attractive people act shitty to be and value my input less. This is not exactly abstract. Plenty of men find the aging process traumatic, it just tends to be things like not being a young hotblood anymore and being seen as gramps. The ridiculous dancing around that happens over male pattern bald…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:23 PM
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No, the article provided the sort of focal point that is causing a false positive- its not that niceness is particularly a subject of objection- its how it is presented and what is assumed by it. You're going to have to take this sort of thing in the context of advice and arguments for behaviour- in this case its space filler designed to provide easy to accomplish advice with very little thought involved. The old fashioned part comes from our awareness of a legacy of things like this: (Its a vin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:13 PM
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Guy insecurity is not going to be couched in terms of the obligations expected of women. Often the vent they need to do is based on things people ask of men, to be strong, to be stoic, etc... But things guys complain/vent about include: Not knowing how this woman thing works. Being exhausted of everything asked of them. Interpersonal relationship problems. A truly traumatic past girlfriend. Being sexually assaulted or abused. That time they had to do a surprising amount of violence in highschool…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:32 AM
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They totally do, they are just shy about showing it to other men. Make a guy feel sincerely safe and they roll over all big eyed, for pets and reassurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:43 AM
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If it's advice for women, as these sorts of things are, a hypothetical lack of male curiosity is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:30 AM
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I joke sometimes that the technical term is "unicorn". :P
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:28 AM
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A few reasons: 1) Sex makes babies and diseases. I prefer scenarios where I can be more risk aware. At the very least I could be tied to a guy for the rest of my life after one sex act. 2) I can't fuck a guy I don't truly respect. 3) For some of my more intimate stuff I fall in love with a guy's personality. Love is a powerful sexual lubricant. 4) My romantic relationships contain a "friend" component. I want to be able to have fun with them. 5) I don't do one night stands for reasons of how I o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:13 AM
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It's not a matter of making me feel "comfortable" its that I don't want you or your cock if we can't get on as "friends". Frankly I have more faith in my ability to be compelling, given the overall way I get on in the world, including gay men and straight women, and I don't think straighf men are love starved idiot children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 01:16 AM
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Yes, I buy friends lunches, fix their computer (probably not in the dead of night, but I've certainly dropped everything in the middle of the night for actual emergencies for people that were just friends, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:55 PM
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Is she?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:06 PM
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Yes? That one was easy. I am a shoulder to cry on for loads of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:06 PM
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Buy if she is giving the same thing he is (friendship), how is it exploitive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:55 PM
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What if you do not have a boyfriend? Do you make one up?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:17 PM
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If you are not interested in him, then don't start a friendship unless you know he is gay So men are not allowed to be friends with women because... wanting to have sex with them is bad? Or they are incapable of friendship if sexual interest is present?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:16 PM
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What is the appropriate way to act? Edit I mean, I'm seriously curious what TRP feels is the polite way of managing the hypothetical eternal boner. Right now I treat the possibility of attraction like I would a teenage boy with an erection- politely ignore it so as not to embarrass him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:58 PM
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I'm sorry, I think you missed my point. Try re-reading the last sentence. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:33 PM
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I'm not sure how many RPW would like calling their husbands "betas".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:32 AM
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Its not that being nice is old fashioned, it's that the glurgey cult of the perfect domestic wife is generally seen as the post war mid century blech we use as narrative shorthand for a set of cultural roles we decided was unsustainable. Personally a lot of these are Baby's First Relationship tips, and the retro vibe is coming from the banality more so than the advice to be nice to your man, particularly with the reductionary and not particularly well explained nature of the instructions- there'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:56 AM
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Shrugs The whole thing is really arbitrary. You've got cultures where promiscuity is the norm and ones where trying to talk to someone else's woman is ground for an assault. I'm not sure what your perspective on falling in love is, in the first place though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 10:03 PM
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A lack of sympathy. I have perfectly fine empathy to the position of someone desperately pining- I've burned with crushes on the unobtainable myself. However being a big girl (and this is something I discovered in middle school) means learning that people don't owe you their affection. And if you run around trying to rescue people from loving you, it requires you not to respect them and their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 09:59 PM
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A lot of guys are (for lack of a better word) betas. I feel like this stretches the term "beta" past its usefulness, and presumes that everyone starts off on the same level of sexual jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 09:35 PM
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biologically-based behavior patterns would appear to support what TRP calls the "AF/BB" dynamic. Actually no, in the animal kingdom that sort of early in life promiscuity seems to be more as a buffer against infantacide- you find it in all sorts of mammals from chimps to horses and the payoff is that one fuck (initiated by the female) gives her a liftime immunity from getting her young murdered. Chimps even do it as a sex tour of other territory before they are actually fertile. So a non-reprodu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:20 PM
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Guys claiming to be friendzoned generally don't want the girl to slime n' climb them either, though. Indeed the stereotypical Le GentleSir has an elaborate fantasy of how he's going to treat her sooo right forever and ever and ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:59 PM
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In promiscuous circles you also get male "plates"- contrary to their reputation as the gender built to fuck and leave, a lot of guys are inclined to get attached. You have to have a circle where there's absolutely no penalty for being sexually open though. Then guys who don't get clingy and weird about it suddenly start getting laid like tile.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:55 PM
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That's not your problem though. It would be unethical if you were in any way lying, but admirers who hang around where escalating the relationship is impossible are still grown ups- and being nice to someone doesn't entitle them to more, whether your nice is half an hour of hide the sausage or listening to them explain to you in detail how haaaaard dating is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:52 PM
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How do you know their sexuality? Most people assume I'm 100% straight unless I'm actively having sex with my own gender at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 08:07 PM
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That's all very well for you, but where I love (urban Canada) "interacial" dating is normal. Similarly dating your own gender is not exactly shocking. Even in my small town conservative highschool a decade ago, we had a LGB population. Of course an unusually high percentage of reddit users are Canadian, so who knows. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 08:05 PM
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Yeah, the problem it that it points to a fundamental flaw in TRP theory, namely the AWALT. If you start adding exceptions, you either have to admit you are making a gross generalisation or you hit a sort of running No True Scotman fallacy. There's been a lot of wriggling around, for example claiming that AWALT is just a precaution (which is akin to me saying all men are corpses, and you should treat them like that as the core or your relationship because they might die on you), or this sort of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 01:31 PM
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Yeah. It was a conversation involving admiration of that trait in him. Since being hit in a non-kink context is alien and my brush with domestic abuse was more gross feeling than calming, I was hoping she'd have an actual perspective on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 01:58 AM
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Right well, I'm only interested in concrete and testable ideas. I'll leave counting the alphas dancing on the head of a pin to you. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 12:17 AM
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Are you saying you are not human or that your participation in this is purely abstract speculation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 10:51 PM
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It's a simple question, yes or no. You already stated a potential violence of your husband being a good thing- I wanted to examine the logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 10:28 PM
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I'm curious, does your husband hit you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 08:41 PM
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I generally express things in terms of belief, since things like safety are relative. This does not imply conspiracy to trick men, just honesty of perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 03:24 PM
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How is it creepy? Is it better that men believe they are unsafe?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:52 PM
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But it certainly allows for it more so than the other way around. For example it seems like users like Aerobus are more than welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:08 PM
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Okay, so I'm curious- TRP is very negative about a female "try everything" approach. Is there a perception that women are supposed to know what they want up front but guys are not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 01:22 PM
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In my anecdotal experience, you want to feel safe, special and valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 01:09 PM
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Longest dry spell- 18 to 21. After that, I was getting sex every six to four months, then just about every other day for four years. Then a four month gap. Then another five month gap. Then about once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 01:04 PM
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There's a difference between monogamy and commitment. However, even in countries with legal polygyny, monogamy based pairings are the norm, probably due to the economic realities of having a family. And that is probably the key point of examination- society still works on a binary when it comes to households and children, although blended families challenge that- but even a multi-family model works on the idea of overlapping pairs. As a model, serial monogamy has the advantage of simplifying pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 12:57 PM
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Americans are very good at their uh... wishful thinking. For example the most moral subscribing states tend to have the highest rate of teen pregnancy, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 11:55 AM
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Your problems sound a liiiiittle more complicated than just being unattractive, if you are truly alcoholic. You have an untreated health problem infamous for making the people they are close to suffer. As such, you aren't in a position to get an emotionally stable girlfriend. You might find an enabler or a fellow addict, but neither option is going to help with recovery.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 01:19 AM
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Not according to many of the guys here, or RPW!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 10:25 AM
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I think his feminism has nothing to do with his open marriage, unless he had some sort of anti-feminist belief as the only reason why he didn't want to. Otherwise he sounds like just another poly wanker who thinks the ability to share his partner makes him particularly exceptionally well adjusted compared with monogamists. Speaking as someone with a more open scenario, people like this are irritating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 04:41 PM
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I cook, because I'm a grown up. In my current relationship though, Gentleman does most of the dinners because he's an expert at it and really enjoys me being all "mmmmm, ooooo, nahm!" I think he enjoys having a woman act like he's the most impressive thing ever. Don't worry though, TRP makes it clear I'm a freak and my dominance makes their penis sad. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:20 PM
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Now I'm 1.75 years into a relationship with a 5'11" guy who spent the first two weeks of dating intermittently crying and curled in a little ball because he was having his month from hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:57 PM
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No, I got dumped for a minecraft server. :D <edit> Probably the only one of my exes I would still bang. Such a lovely boy- way too young for me, to be honest, but a lovely brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:46 PM
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I fell intensely in love with a morbidly obese man with a menial job and little education, because he was just so damn fascinating. We fucked like bunnies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 11:05 AM
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Always, assuming he's not entitled, pushy, weird, etc... Any man is allowed to want to fuck me or have a relationship with me or both. I'll be pissed if this desire supersedes everything else including my personality, and he has no chance in hell of hooking up with me if he's not content to get just friend status (my dating life reflects this). However if he's going to strike up a conversation without an introduction, he better be ready for bristles, just like I'd expect any stranger in the groc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 10:58 PM
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BP Women: Would you date a man that was shorter than you? One notch count is shorter. My mom dated a literal dwarf, I never got the big deal about height. I'm 5'5" so very few men are shorter than me. I have a freaky psychological blindspot thing where I see myself taller than people who are actually taller than me, which throws everything off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 10:48 PM
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Sensitive, nerdy, needy. Strong verbal communication skills and extremely playful. I seem to have a huge maternal streak tied into my romantic leanings- you better be down for endless backrubs, being brought $beverage, and using me as your safe place. First weeks of dating activities with Gentleman included nursing him through serious life shit that left him a wreck, and unglamorous day surgery. Physically I prefer lean, lanky and even emaciated. I'll sacrifice the physical, but only for someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 10:31 AM
5

Better. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 08:39 PM
1

We don't work that way. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 07:33 PM
1

I think the general principle there is that verbal scores test a combination of memory and frame of reference. Although using it as part of IQ is complicated because bilingual people tend to have a smaller vocabulary in each individual language, simply as a factor of having their attention split between two equally valid ways to say things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 05:57 PM
2

Yeah, that's not something I got as a late 80s baby in Eastern Canada. There also was very little interest in having people skip a grade, even if you were an academic over achiever, where as both my father and aunt were grade skippers- I think I knew one in my high school and she had done so in the private school her father was in charge of so... All you got out of being smart was a clutter of trophies and certificates, and possibly scholarships for college if your high school grades were high e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 05:45 PM
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Most people don't take IQ tests in my social environment. Growing up, you get streamed by academic performance and that is assumed to be all you need unless they have to test for learning disorders, at which point out come the block puzzles and vocabulary tests. So not knowing your partner's intelligence as measured on paper simply means there was no reason to measure it. Thus it is like someone said "I like thin guys!" And you scoffed at how they don't know a guy's body fat percentage. Generall…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:36 PM
4

Because sexual frequency is not the ultimate measure of status. Indeed looking at things from a class analysis perspective: A 14 year old who is sexually active, of either gender, is more likely to come from a disadvantaged background, and a lower intellect seems to be paired with poor impulse control- again correlating with promiscuity. Measurable intellect and perceived attractiveness go hand in hand (and tend to go with wealth and prestige), but teens from luckier backgrounds fuck less and la…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:28 PM
2

Yeah, but then you have anti-pedestal TRP and guys who place themselves atop women like she was the pedestal they need to ram face down into the muck. If you are calling all adult women "teenagers" you are not pro-equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:33 PM
1

Given my family history and genetics, any son of mine would already be getting laid like tile. He'd be blind as a bat and/or awkward as fuck, but nonetheless able to get some. I mean I can see him doing it as a "fuck you Mum, I do what I want!" But also I have confidence in my parenting that he'd be able to make intelligent choices. After all, I read many silly things as a teen and rebelled by telling people I'd be a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 08:20 PM
3

No dude, anime chicks are the ones having threesomes in highschool. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:32 PM
3

Well, my BMI is in the healthy range, but I am annoying and nerdy!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:29 PM
7

I prefer the position that I'm not a special snow flake and my kinks/libertine life are in no way revolutionary or better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 10:20 AM
1

You know, asides from pegging. ;) Basically the resounding answer here is "It's not abusive when I do it!" Or that there's nothing inherently wrong with the behaviour, just that they personally would find it repulsive, but only in a woman. Just going to have to chalk this up to living in a completely different universe under different rules. At least its a happy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 09:43 PM
1

I found that endlessly amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:08 PM
1

So it would be fair to say you would not like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:55 PM
1

As I've said when I've been asked the last 3 times, depends on which hand - my fingers do not mirror, much how my right foot is a smidgen bigger than my left.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:54 PM
6

What is so darn special about blowjobs that they are some sort of measurement of love? I adore Gentleman's cock, but my willingness to try to swallow it whenever he chooses to share it with me is not the primary manifestation of my affections. Blowjobs are inherently rewarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:58 AM
2

The BDSM sex is banal. But where in my post was she bitching at anyone? If being bossy in bed is bitching, are dominant guys bitching in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:35 AM
0

Nah, that is not the sort of thing I blog about. Well, maybe being aggressive in bed, but my personal experience is that that is shooting fish in a barrel. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:25 AM
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User base is well aware of the femdom thing. Probably wishes I'd shut up about it, actually. Nor did I write something SSC.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:16 AM
6

I think Atlas found it funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 12:29 AM
5

what do you think about RPW? I did a RPW experiment for a month, and the most challenging aspect I found was that literally every facet of it is fungible other than "respect your partner", which from my position was already something I do. He perceived me sitting on my bossy streak as coddling him, and found it more emasculating than my regular self. The rest of the trifecta are kinda non-starters, he prefers to cook and takes a lot of pride in his ability; I have a higher libido by quite a bit(…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 12:28 AM
2

No one has ever called you a brat? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 06:10 PM
14

No, you are only responsible for your own stupidity. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 05:16 PM
13

Funny, the other guy on here told me women function on pure intuition and need no guides.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 04:45 PM
1

If being bossy makes a woman a man, does it follow that people interested in them are gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 03:39 PM
2

So you would reason that men dating RPW would be at higher risk of being dumped?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 03:32 PM
1

So if you check out my tits, does that make you gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 03:31 PM
1

Precisely- many of the dirty/dangerous male jobs are well compensated or have a path for promotion that appears to favour men. Not all of them, obviously, but for example a BA, as a woman, looks like a more sure bet than culinary school.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 10:52 PM
3

Women are more likely to work in the public sector, so credential focused career building makes sense. Beyond that the positions you can get without post-secondary education or through trade programs that are path-of-least-resistance for women to acheive tend to be lower status and lower paid. Female fashions reflect this- our clothes are designed such that it is high status to signal you don't do manual labour. As a woman I would have evidence to believe that office work is probably the best wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 12:59 PM
1

I learned that men are frequently soft, fragile and loving. Also often beautiful. The "I found out you're a sloot, haha! Now I may disrespect you enough to give you my filthy penis!" crowd are in the vast minority. There is a small minority of sad assholes with issues. The desperately want to fuck sexually open, wild, free (other adjective) women but they are also terrified of them. It creates an odd scenario where they value women by how little they want to fuck them, but invest a lot of emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 12:35 PM
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Yep! And if you can't agree, you terminate the relationship. That was easy!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 11:24 AM
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Adultery is a personal symbolic thingee- and the roots of jealousy and possessiveness are inherently irrational. I'd obviously be deeply disappointed if Gentleman did something I considered 'cheating', but it's not like if he became a devout Mormon or something it would be any worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 03:52 PM
2

Yes. He's not a sex worker I had on retainer that I chose to terminate for poor performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 03:07 PM
1

Given the kids are closer with your husband, and want to stay with him, should he get main custody? He should get main custody if that's what he's been doing, although obviously much depends on how we divided our duties. It not about our relationship, its about the kids. Being unfaithful in no way implies he's a bad parent. I still need to work with this guy if we have a tend year old together. As a SAHP, the kid has already been in school for five years, so if I've been supporting him not to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 12:51 PM
1

They're not going to have sex with you, so it's moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 10:32 AM
2

Sex can be good without kink. Let's not be elitist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 01:21 AM
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Well, in real life you know that to be true. But there in is another facet of my critique- actually women being complicated and interesting compared with the coyly simplified "cave man" shtick and overtly anti-kink norms stance of many of the mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 01:12 AM
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Honestly having done my RPW experiment, my main critique is that it doesn't have any consistency. For example all the talk of "lady like" is all very well and good, but actually trying it had several prominent members leap in and tell me how it wasn't about what you did, it was about your faithful belief in your Captain. So it basically boils down to the uninspiringly banal advice to love and trust your partner, with a whole bunch of stuff that is clearly not relavent because it can be jettisone…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:46 PM
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It was a throw away account, so I reported it to reddit proper. No worries, it was so unfounded and crazy its hard to be intimidated. For example it informed me I looked like a gecko and who could be bothered by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:54 PM
1

I generally draw the line at personally responding to the PMs calling me ugly and telling me to kill myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 02:00 PM
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I think you'll find we don't care. Au contraire, rants about discrimination against men frequently touch on the "stooopid man!" as one of the things worth being uset about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:58 PM
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See, the issue with the locker room talk excuse is that not everyone believes one should say mean shit one doesn't really endorse. For example, in my relationship, no matter how cranky I'm feeling, I'm still actionable for what comes out of my mouth. And that is also if I'm hanging out with other people, say having a lady gab fest- "grrrr, men are stupid!" is not an acceptable way to talk if I want the men in my life to take me seriously. Even not allowing for the fact that they still have to fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 12:35 PM
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Yeah, I can't remember if it was you or someone else whose core RPW advice was to shut up and let him lead, if you were a woman. But it was one of the mods of the sub. This does not really gel with 'tell him in a first officer fashion', nor is that kind of communication a strong focus of the sub. To be honest the position that women in RPW get assigned (and discuss) more often is closer to quartermaster or cook - both might tell the Captain the boat is sinking if they happened to observe that, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 12:23 PM
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I find the sex research seems to suggest both genders, in high percentage would love it if someone "ravished" them. So dominance sells well in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:34 PM
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Same goes for dudes. Erections like iron bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 08:11 PM
0

Weird. I read it as pro-life on my phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:08 PM
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How does "pro-life" work withing "quality?" I imagine to a pro-choice woman this would be a decided draw back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:23 PM
1

Why is it that you don't enjoy the byproducts of dating an utter moron but insist that a smart woman is so not important?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 10:40 AM
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Yes, you just need to find someone whose home is owned free and clear who is looking to get married. That's kind of a very special case, usually getting a mortgage paid off takes time that you are still paying into yourself. Not a lot of guys can afford to keep a woman out of the job market completely and buy a home without the bank basically owning it. Better off getting a time share in a dungeon and buying a whip, unless the marriage is about less tangible benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:45 PM
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Usually half the house free and clear is going to take you many, many years of marriage. Half a mortgage, maybe, but dollar for dollar, and speed- that's not very feasible and most people are going to have to both pay into the house. And if you ain't working its unlikely he's wealthy enough to cover servants too. So I hope you like housekeeping! Knowing various cam girls, pro-doms and straight up escorts, yeah, if money is all you care about, go that route. You can get a surprising amount of lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 11:17 AM
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Because its nice to be there for someone in that case. Purely from a hypothetical perspective, sex work would probably get me more money. Beyond that, single Pearl being courted gets more possible offers that could be exploited than contendedly partnered Pearl. If I were in it to grift, monogamy would be a poor idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 02:44 AM
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Or just a non-married long term couple. Although the hospital married me to Gentleman. Went in a girlfriend, came out common law, on account of it letting me stay bedside. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 01:32 AM
2

You don't need to marry someone for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 01:26 AM
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Negative, firetrucks are occasionally yellow. http://onlyminutesaway.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/Engine41.jpg Or even green! http://www.sycamoretownship.org/images/L-92%202008%20Seagrave%20Marauder%202%20100ft.JPG
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 04:33 PM
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Because firetrucks are red, what incentive to they give for industrial investment?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:21 PM
0

No, as someone who sleeps with both, I've never experienced that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:05 AM
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Nope. I'm relatively picky. Basically the logic I work under is that the idea of him has to make me want to have an orgasm. Since very few men do that- I stick only to cases where I'd have fun. Edit I think part of the problem here is that you are seeing men as fundamentally identical units, possibly being measured by X status. (I don't want to assume) But until you know a guy there's no possibility of being attracted to him except in the most shallow sense- and at that point he's an imaginary c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 08:26 PM
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I know what my heart and my lady parts want. I've never encountered a guy 'too attractive' for me that I desired. In a relationship or completely disinterested yes, but either I unknowingly have SMV off the charts or this is not a Thing. If you are generally nice and outgoing around all men (which I am) most guys will relax and enjoy your company without having to clean his house or him buying you dinner. The admirable, fuckable ones will display their positive characteristics more readily if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 06:54 PM
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Nah, the "more" comes later. Sexual favours as a treat to dole out is something most worthwhile men won't tolerate. Trying to play hard to get generally only selects for guys who can, on some level or another, be controlled by sexual access. If you aren't looking for a pussy puppet, you need to get it off the table and make it clear you want to climb them like squirrel up a tree. And if you are actually attracted enough to make him worth more than a meal ticket, you will want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 03:42 PM
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Speaking as a woman who is drowning in commitment, you in no way need to withhold sex. Instead you need to be extremely aggressive about your own pleasure. Most men are not aware of how attractive they are. Making a man feel attractive without making him jump through seven sorts of hoop has a double blessing: first of all by picking the guy rather than waiting to be noticed, you have a larger pool to choose from. Secondly the opportunity to feel special will make him feel incredibly safe with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 03:07 PM
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Go to any text based roleplaying area where the genders are inverse. Being male gets you crazy attention. Women decide they are in love with you after talking. The most garbled RP gets treated like poetry. Basically these environments are based around sexual things women generally like, so the dynamics get radically inverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 03:00 PM
1

I don't know if I'm active enough to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 10:53 AM
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1) Lazy bisexual, aka I prefer men but hey, fun! I'm comfortable enough with sex to do so in public. 2) ayup. Sex works better with practice. 3) Extra people. Cuffs on the bed is pretty normal, organising an orgy takes more effort. 4) Scat. Not into fur suits, age play, permanent injury, uncomfortable butt stuff. I don't sub, it feels itchy and icky, although I ID as a dominant sadomasochist. 5) Violent. I tend to get off in me time to erotica about utter degradation and control. I'm bloooo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 03:16 PM
1

Not relevant to my point- its broadly accepted that since marriage has been one of the main factors in the standard of living for women (being unable to own property or even being property will do that) through relatively recent history this has effected social behavior. However the emphasis on the few women that do in exclusion of everyone else who doesn't, or the idea that a woman's appearance is her sole sorting factor in mate selection are both absurd. Nobody sensible is going to dispute the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:34 PM
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Sigh: http://search.proquest.com/openview/a1e1a48512e3cc33af1e273a50fca5a6/1?pq-origsite=gscholar It works for both genders in partner selection. Although there tends to be a bias to look at the men first when people study things (yaye, sexism), it goes back to the reality that both sexes have limited interclass mobility, marriages tend to be intra-class. http://www.ijsrp.org/research-paper-1013/ijsrp-p2225.pdf So while a small number of people marry up, and there is still a greater emphasis on …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 06:26 PM
5

Removing a beard is in no way "basic tidiness". Neither is facial fair manicuring, waxing it, etc. Although hacking a beard back to manageable length has practicality, the popularity of shaping or completely denuding the face shows that this is way more than just not getting soup in your fuzz. But on the flip side, why should we conform to what makes you happy? Since pretty much everyone who has a remote degree of awareness knows that women are wearing makeup, its not really much of a deception.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:29 PM
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Why? Shaving your beard leads to horrible ingrown hairs for many men. Beards are healthy and natural, but our culture likes to pretend that they don't grow the way they do, either eliminating them entirely to look like the small minority of men with hairless faces, or sculpting them into carefully manicured shapes that would never occur in nature. Real men have things like a beard that doesn't fill in properly on one side of their chin until they hit thirty, through to wolf man specials. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:11 PM
1

Porn stars are literally professional attractive women. They have one job, and that's to be so good at selling ideas that extract sperm from your body pleasantly that you feel compelled to pay. Porn stars and cartoon characters are indeed hyper exaggerations of what is considered attractive. The mutable standards are determined by whatever signals the highest status women. I'm sure college aged woman I see at pool parties at rich kids house and frats are not socially mobile. I'm sure. Hooking up…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:09 PM
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You know, I have an entire bureau covered with little bottles and pots and pallets, and speaking from personal experience, although I can make a fancy face, the context for fancy face is when everyone else is doing it. Foundation to the point of contour is painfully obvious up close. Likewise all the lengthening mascara, etc... It is only as effective as the environment you are in, just like how I can't wear a sequin covered party dress to work. In so far as feelings of superiority, if someone p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:40 AM
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Pretty much. Although ironically the sex pos, nonreligious, slut walking gender is a buffet crew tend to be more "pure" in their frequency and habits than someone who is conservative- and the higher your socioeconomic membership the later one tends to put things off. So the sort of career minded heavily educated feminist boogeyman that gets held up as The Worst has less sexual partners, more stable relationships and so on. Hell, if you want to examine the obsession over female fat composition, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:22 AM
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Congrations, you just learned the difference between actual measured human behaviour and what your heart says. So yes, if that 10/10 was outside your normal social environment you would hardly be aware she exists. You might wank to her picture if you happened to come across it, but people wank to fictional characters all the time. And come on, we both know your favourite porn stars might as well be anime characters or super heroes for all they effect your sexual reality. Although a small number …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:05 AM
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Well, she ain't going to get the guy unless she's in a similar socio-economic and cultural bracket, if this is real life. But "imaginary person does it too" is not a justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:38 PM
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No they don't. That's a cliché riddled summation of the abstinence only sex education fairy tales we use to express a purely emotional and imaginary concept like virginity. People are not candy bars or whatever that get unwrapped and consumed. Actual human sexual behaviour shows this to be an unsustainable hang up, counter to both sensible public health measures AND actual sexual frequency- the groups that tend to embrace that sort of thinking are precisely the groups that start fucking early an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:37 PM
2

Actually we generally don't get to have orgasms until later in our sexual "career" so technically yes, if you look at actual female sexual behaviour it can take until 30 before sex makes you cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:32 PM
4

Would you rather have a surgeon who had never operated before in their life or one who operated on thirty people? If we're going to make analogies of experience that makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 02:37 AM
2

What, even if you were doing it to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 12:23 AM
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Now now, don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of righteous fury at cultural myths taken seriously. Everyone knows all divorces end in her taking house, truck, sports car and dog!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 04:36 PM
2

Vibrations don't work on me, but we both know that telling guys who can't get laid to go have a wank would not amuse or impress them. You're making this argument for me- its not about sex, its about demanding that particular people treat you the way you want that goes beyond common courtesy and into full on invasive. And the picky-ness goes both ways- when you start putting conditions you start sounding a hell of a lot like the women you say can't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:16 AM
2

Power imbalances in your sex (eg dominating your partner) and/or rough stuff are both pretty core for BDSM aficionados. But there's this idea that kink is package deal (must wear fetish gear, sneer at manpigs, peg) when really its a buffet. You can identify however you want, its not my place to lable you- some guys who seek out sex with other men really aren't bi/gay. Be that as it may, BDSM remains unremarkable and fairly inclusive. Sorry dood, you aren't a rapist. Hell, the real nonconsent I'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 09:42 PM
2

There's enough of me I don't feel that magical, maybe I just get invited to cooler parties. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 09:16 PM
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The bits without the hair pulling and the calling her a slut. ;) I haven't just done a fair bit of BDSM, I have the benefit of having a significant part of my social life revolve around it, and have been doing it as long as I've been sexually active. You would be completely invisible among self identified kinksters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 09:12 PM
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Actually what you describe is pretty bog standard BDSM stuff. You don't need to wear a stupid outfit and call each other fancy titles or involve props more complicated than your hands. I am a dom. And you know what? The best sex I've had, encouraged by various dudes, is me dominating the shit out of them, dirty talking them (depends on the guy, some like the slut/whore route, some want vulnerability, some are into more sex specific stuff), hair pulling, choking, cumming on him. Whatever. All the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 08:39 PM
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Does he own a utilakilt, a large amount of rope and a strong opinion on Starwars Prequels?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 08:29 PM
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I think the trick is to work on not denying the personhood of the other party. Like, I will probably never truly understand what it feels like to get kicked in the nuts, but its not needed that I do so to understand the concept that genital torture is to be confined to consenting men. The biggest critique I have of "being a horny man suuuuuucks" is that the solutions proposed seldom ask reasonable things of the people they expect to provide the solution. Or they are packaged with self defeating …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 03:52 PM
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Its not going to work, because if we are making analogies, you're like a water buffalo telling a lion that you have no idea why they are hungry with all this delicious grass. And it doesn't work to make the "even ugly you can find sex", because if, as a guy, you lower your standards enough you can still get laid, albeit possibly as john or via a bath house hook up with another dude. And that's the literal rub- $100 bucks gets you a hand job from a reputable establishment if you're not a shitty t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 02:19 AM
6

Hey, save your merciless amazon wank fest for literotica.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 10:58 PM
6

Awww, poor widdle sexual assault committing babies just want their mommies! Did you really just come up with a rape apologia that makes men seem even worse than the common narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 10:28 PM
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Its 45.8% of heterosexual men, if I'm looking it up. Guys like their femdoms. So we totally have "options". ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 10:17 PM
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No, that is male as victim fantasies- male as rapist fantasies are slightly less.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 10:04 PM
5

Men actually have rape fantasies at about a 40% rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 09:56 PM
2

Except for his hunting buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 12:41 PM
1

Nope, generally its the male leaders who happened to be on the winning side. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 12:13 PM
2

Uh, no men in construction work generally don't go into the profession because they want a better tomorrow for all of society as worker bees while decorating women, they do it because they want to earn a wage. Which they will spend on the same things that female labour goes towards supporting. To imply this is inherent male altruism is a pretty bold claim and demands more backing than just because someone said so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 12:12 PM
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Useless. I will increasingly come to resemble a tiny raccoon in my dotage (eastern European represent!), but that is hardly a bad thing- my aging female relatives all seem okay with their appearances. I do not expect this to change those who love me from applying the term "beautiful", since all that means is that your physical visage gives people positive emotions. As long as I continue to be a positive factor in people's lives, my "beauty" is assured. I like compliments that make me feel powerf…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 12:00 PM
2

Good. So he's possibly not stupid. Which would be a non-spurious argument only if I had, at any time, claimed Bush was stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 01:34 AM
2

Other Clinton.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 01:32 AM
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Okay, so why should we consider that definition more valid than the one we use for other animals?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 09:42 PM
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Did Clinton have a legacy admission or similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 09:41 PM
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You need to be more clear about supporting your working definition of alpha-ness in women and supply it then. For example in describing "alpha" in other species, said females are also in high ranking positions- for example horse herds have a lead mare who actually outranks even the biggest, meanest stallions as far as making choices for the herd. So if you are working with a radically different definition, it would help your audience to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 09:00 PM
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Your argument, while pedantic, does not invalidate my point. Meeting the entrance requirements for a prestigious law school is clearly a mark of distinction. Be that as it may, thirty seconds of biography skimming on wikipedia shows she was politically active from her early teens onwards, and seems to have been extremely successful at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 07:31 PM
2

You know more guys have submissive kinks than dominant ones and BDSM is very, very normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 07:19 PM
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Yeah, yeah anyone in this forum has the means to graduate from an ivy league law school, clearly. Why, you did it twice! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 07:15 PM
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That's a "no true Scotsman" fallacy and you know it. You don't get to redefine what women are to make the definition exclude exceptions that violate the paradigm you are working with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 07:12 PM
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How did you meet this guy? Male friend? Aggressively pursue, but make it about your feelings not his obligations. Bang on the first "date". Make your overall goals clear without being rigid. Be fun to spend time with and useful to have around. Fucking like a minx can't hurt, but male libidoes are not always garuntees. Make him feel safe by demonstrating your sincere interest in his happiness. Being "feminine" is way too abstract to be useful advice. It worked for me, but being aggressive is one …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 02:35 AM
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Slut is an arbitrary label that gets tossed out at all sorts of women. It has nothing to do with partner count and is related to entirely subjective and variable standards of behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 10:10 AM
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You of course have fucked more men than I have, but that doesn't make you...a guy. You think you think like us, but you can't. At the end of the day you want love, but don't know how to get it. It's like casting a wide net: you fuck a bunch of guys in hopes that one will love you. What on earth are you talking about? I'm in a happy relationship with a person who loves me. I might be a sexual deviant, but my life has not lacked for love from dudes. My behaviour is demonstrably loving/supportive. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 04:12 PM
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Because the system benefits a few at the expense of the many, while pretending its about the other person's behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 11:09 PM
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I'm going to go out a limb here and guess that I have had sex with, and intimate relationships with, more men than you. And, as a general constant, a lot of guys like to believe they are simple but nobody is excused from human complexity. In the sport of asking the fisherman not the fish- men as easy creatures is not a working model if you wants results. For example guys tend to think of their genitals as fairly simple units- but in practice every cock and balls is special. You can get away with…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 12:38 PM
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Not really. Gentleman and I have a relationship that includes multiple persons- our first "date" was to invite him to one of the private little parties I go to, to defile and use a cute red head. So I'm supposedly pretty and filthy enough for anyone. And you know what? Men are wonderful, clever, full of depth and all sorts of good things- they will always be my favourite gender sexually, but they are not universally easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 12:28 AM
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Honestly , swinging is what my grandparents did. That's not very exciting or out there. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 09:13 PM
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Wrong question to ask, "dick" is men willing to have an orgasm on, at or in you. What I want is an orgasm. I don't need dick for that, nor is sex only dick, dick and more dick, and defining it that way is begging the question. And when it starts being about you, the clit rubbing, horny for the useful kind of stimulation woman, suddenly the general male population gets a lot more reluctant, and its a matter of can't or won't. Its like as a female dominant, guys say they are falling all over thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 12:50 PM
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Me. And I can get an RP person who has seen a pic of me to confirm its not for lack of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 09:06 PM
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I find that 99% of these conversations tend to digress into kink if they go on long enough, probably because if you're talking about power dynamics in relationships, a comparison will get made and if you are talking about sex, people be kinky.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 12:15 PM
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Still don't get it, sorry. .... http://www.intimateweddings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/doiliecupcake2psd.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 10:08 AM
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I don't understand if you were trying to communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 12:24 AM
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I'd rather never fuck anyone ever again than fuck you. If there was literally a gun to my head death-or-sex once scenario I'd probably pick rape once over death forever, but if it was like "this is your husband now and adultery carries the death penalty", no sex would be had. Likewise if there was a gun to your head if I didn't, I'd probably fuck you. Because you don't deserve to die. I can't think forced marriage to me would be any fun either, if that's some comfort. Icy autistic level self wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 08:57 PM
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My brother seems to get laid fine. And my family was stark raving insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 05:45 PM
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They just believe that hardcore dominant women (as in, women who want an actively submissive man) are rare enough that you shouldn't hedge your bets on finding one. Nnnnngh... Must, resist commentary... Unnnnhhh... Okay. Fiiiiiiine. Hi there! This is my thing! I even have a moderately successful project devoted to the subject. The problem with this compromise is that it doesn't really resolve the problem, it just tries to pretend it doesn't exist, kind of like the advice the Mormons were giving …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 02:55 PM
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who would you rather give a chance? Its the antithesis of my dating philosophy to give people a "chance". Giving chances are for your big break on broadway, cuz everyone's been a kid with a dream or for allowing a new food a few tries before you decide you hate it. This particular choice is like picking whether you'd lose your right arm or your left. Realistically given my dating history the one who's a bit too sensitive for his own good and makes me feel needed, so probably Foreveralone?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 12:07 PM
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He also acts pouty and playful. I call him crocodile, he calls me panda. We use disgusting baby voices with each other. Really we're that gross gooey couple that everyone calls "so cute!" Me personally, I'm fucking adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 10:32 AM
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Since we established that physically overpowering someone is not the only route to noxious things, I think I don't need to state my point a third time, that physical strength is hardly the be all and end all of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:09 PM
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You saying women never sexually assault men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:55 PM
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And I told you that a guy tried to sexually assault me by brute force and I punched him (I also barked "NO. Put Me Down.") He did not stop because he realized I was not into his kink (previous attempts on his part had already settled that issue), he stopped because I made it clear I wasn't a soft target. I am not some sort of badass paragon. You're never going to see me claiming I'm immune to damage or could take any person in a fight. But the principle to which you are arguing has been personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 12:37 PM
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Remember, what's most important is middle class men getting access to teenage virgins. Who cares about the actual rapes when we can worry about the much smaller minority of false accusations!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 12:20 PM
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Try like, about half of guys if all the sex surveys are to be believed. Most people don't want to go all hard leather about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 09:47 AM
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The extension of that particular advice, along with the baffling "ladies don't run!" is that femaleness is difficult to abrogate, so indeed they won't see you as an invisible tainted boy thing and chase the mysterious girl things that up until recently had cooties, they will see you as the person they are not baffled and terrified by when they want practice for that awkward process of becoming a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 01:26 AM
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Precisely. Its fun. Its not like some anointed finger from god assigning you into your role in the social hierarchy, its good 'ol raunchy, bed thumping play.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 01:18 AM
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Yes, and a guy's bedroom preference is in no way a measure of his masculinity, leadership qualities, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:12 PM
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As opposed to Japan, where acts of physical violence are the norm? :P Come on, you know appeals to absent civilisation is a cop out. Even Afghanistan has Bibi Ayisha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:32 PM
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He would have gone to prison after getting badly bruised and lacerated. As I would if I assaulted someone. He was trying, as he did several times, to show me my gender made me not a true dom. Guy had serious no touchy issues when it came to women. To this day I used my social power to get him banned from all the cool kink parties too, because I know I'm unusually punchy but not all women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:21 PM
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Right, they have a human brain, which you can dominate with your brain. Like you say "no drugs or weapons", but there are thousand points of leverage people have access to that are not brute force. Hell, unless you are Putin, there is a shortage of ass kicking world leaders. And practically the few guys who actually are gonna rely on being bigger have to deal with the social ramifications unless they are psychologically impaired in some way. I mean the last guy who tried physical dominance on me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:11 PM
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I do. Oh yes, I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:59 PM
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99% of domination is getting into the guy's head- kinda like riding a horse involves taking a huge, muscular and potentially dangerous creature and making it do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:38 PM
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I find the same amount of guys wanna be dominated though. I mean, aggressively and roughly using a guy for sex is not a hard sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:33 PM
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I'm scary. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:32 PM
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Had my hormones checked recently as lady health shit. Am 100% womanly woman in that respect. Get off on the idea of having a male sex slave, sadomasochistic games, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 09:31 PM
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Good luck with that!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 03:07 PM
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I don't think you made a very compelling argument for not continuing a conversation I was already having with him on a problem that's been discussed in detail here. I think you think I'm attacking him, which is why it does apparently matter who someone is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 02:42 PM
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It's more that people often have weird hangups about what they need to do to be worthy- its like the zit on someone else's chin probably doesn't even register on a conscious level, but the zit on your chin is the end of the world and OMG everyone can seeeee.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 02:18 PM
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I'm sorry, who are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 01:44 PM
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Oh, we've had a couple of conversations about the subject in thread here that he feels an ongoing challenge with his ability to have women like him and how they end up shocked at things he says. I'm not saying anything about his worth as a person, I'm just saying related to an ongoing conversation we've been having this might be the root of the challenge he's experiencing- which the net conclusion might be for him "I wish more women were into murdering the weak." But its nice of you to be consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 01:24 PM
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It's not just the inexperience, its that someone who pops out "I love you!!!" or whatever within a short time frame is advertising that they probably have widely impractical expectations for your behaviour in response. Men don't like a super emotionally over attached insta-bond woman either, unless they themselves have unrealistic expectations for the time frame of a typical relationship. Like there are two ways to be saying "I love you" and one is "I am addicted to the idea of you" and the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 12:54 PM
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If you take it out of a corpse you remove it via the vas deferens and a needle, although in the case of persons declared brain dead rather than being dead-dead electro stimulation via the rectum is also used. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthumous_sperm_retrieval
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 12:25 PM
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Yes, there is an unbelievable amount of sex workers with medical training hanging around mortuaries. I don't know which is more awkward, the fact that having family in the funerary industry means I'm familiar with the process by which you can use a needle to extract a post mortum sperm sample (typically this is something that surviving spouses do) or the fact that this is being brought up as a bizarre trollish derail. Corpses aren't people- at that point its the same as necrophilia not being sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 12:12 PM
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I don't mean this as a personal attack, but you know how you keep telling people that you just can't seem to get that love connection you want 'cuz girls keep going "What, wha? Omg! What's wrong wit'chu!?" after a certain point? I think, with all sincerity, I found your problem. This is one of those basic human decency things that either you get, or you don't because its built on a certain amount of sympathy to the plight of others and ability to imagine scenarios. Is it possible you are having …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:53 AM
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A system needs to function for its dumbest members. In a world where some of the population can't handle a simple discussion about sexual education that doesn't develove into "tell them not to do it, ew!" getting this operational is simply beyond the scope of the tools we have. You are really thinking in terms of best case scenarios not worst case scenarios. I'm saying that this is an unfeasible idea because it adds an extra level of complexity onto something humans are horrifyingly bad at, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:30 AM
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Generally guys I know have the opposite problem, excepting one who is pathalogical about the clingy to the point of being literally mentally ill. Basically the over bombarding people thing is something most people seem to learn about early in the process, in their teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:17 AM
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Man advice I got: from my mother, a promiscuous woman Ensure your safety, carry back up birth control, never let a guy be your sole means to get home (carry mad money). Be careful, some guys fall in love after sex and other guys don't know how to say no, you could accidentally pressure them into something they don't really want. Treat people you fuck with respect. Nobody owes you a relationship. from society Men want sex more than women. (Personal experience no). Virginity is a magical gift. (Er…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 01:07 AM
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Culling the herd? I thought it was supposed to be the feminists who didn't care about men? In so far as feminity being inherently pessimistic, pessimism is generally both correct and allows for pragmatism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 12:45 AM
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As a welfare brat, since you just called for my death... Really, when your arguement is institutionalised child neglect you know you kind of miss the point behind this whole having a civilisation business. Basically the reason why you pay for impoverished children is because you are one serious head injury away from drooling all over yourself on a disability allowance. And we try to not make it a campaign to decide who is and isn't worthy to live in case say, I get the upperhand and decide you n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 12:40 AM
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I think the number dead men that result from that implies that "deal with" works up until, you know... The male on male murder rate is taken into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 12:10 AM
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Still fundamentally unenforceable. We can't get a certain percent of humans to use birthcontrol correctly- you think you can get and maintain a sex contract database for a species with so many pathological hangups about sex that people lie about partner count? Can you imagine- "I want to lose my virginity, but at 16 my mom would kill me if she found my maternal abortion agreement. She doesn't handle me not going to church with the family well anymore. And besides I don't have the $150 for the la…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 12:09 AM
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I think both parents should have the ability to surrender rights and obligations, but that in that case you are going to need to have the social support kick in. Technically my dad was severed from me at birth- in this neck of the woods you can have three parents (eg 2 lesbians and sperm donor) or just one if one parent is filed as unknown or undeclared. My father is "undeclared" although almost 30 years later her wants to amend this, but that's my personal scenario. Custody gets weird, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 11:53 PM
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Which many humane, liberal societies think the banning there of is a gross violation of human rights- indeed the hot button issue is the complete failure of the Swedish model VS say, the German one. Indeed prosititution in Canada is in a state of dispute over legalisation after our supreme court pitched the laws out- unfortunately Conservatives are currently in power so we'll probably get something boneheaded to replace them, but regardless, this is not a unilateral meanie feminist thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 11:36 PM
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I don't think feminism is unusually oppressive to men, but men are definitely dealing with a bunch of really shitty things. I generally subscribe to the idea that men carry the ridiculous burden of being placed in constant competition, and women to be spectators, support, trophies and occasionally the metaphorical ball. One of the advantages of being a woman is that I get to point to the stupidity of the whole damn game from the position of an observer, and although I may indeed be chased off by…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 11:26 PM
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I'm okay with burdening society, that's the whole point of having one. As I said, I think paternal/maternal rights need a giant overhaul post birth, however retooling the welfare state accordingly will be a headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 11:12 PM
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Because it's gestated in her body not his? In the event that we invented artificial wombs, more equitable split on this would make sense, but as long as its in her its not considered a separate person anywhere abortion is not in peril of stopping being an option. Female abortion choice is because its her uterus- this isn't a matter of the choice to become/not become a parent, which happens after birth. Now I think paternal/maternal responsibility laws could use a better overview, but matters are…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 06:57 PM
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What are you trying to get? It sounds like you want to know how women perceive the men in their lives, what they do and what is important to them and how those three factors relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:35 PM
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Generally these guys aren't actually good people, they are the weirdoes who want to be your beeeeest friiiiend and then flip out that they are so nice, why don't you love them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 12:11 PM
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Um hmm... No. In the BDSM community there are people who feel the label of "dominant" works best for them, of which a certain percent are utter fucktards. But being a kink dominant in no way is a magic everything else- its not like sexual subs or switches are any less good at leader things in real life. Look, I'm blessed that people will coo that I'm a "natural" dominant. All this means is that I fill the fantasy they have in their head well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 12:09 PM
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I'm amused by the idea of trying to make people sign a paternity obligation contract every time sex is had.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 11:51 AM
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Society pays for unwanted/extra children if he doesn't. Anything the guy doesn't pay for everyone pays for- essentially they are holding the two participants in the child's creation most culpable. Since women gestate young in their body, they have more control over pregnancy termination, but on the other hand nobody can compell men to do anything with sperm while its still inside the guy's body. Or donate bone marrow or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 11:48 AM
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Gentleman owns two aprons, now that you mention it, leftovers from his college job at NYfries. He looks particularly cute when he's wearing nothing but. (He says "they're pinstripes, that's how you know they're pimp!")
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 01:38 AM
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career and status mean virtually nothing to most men. And you don't want those men if you value your own career/status. Hypergamy, remember? ;) Being a less facetious, humans also couple up via tribal groups. And obviously sometimes you get exceptions to the tendency for people to stick within their own socio-economic bracket. But people pick people who fit into their lives when they pair off. And with female status increasingly determined on our own terms, not of the person we attach ourselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 09:35 PM
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Well, guys do seem to like flexible women!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 05:19 PM
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And women who score better for intelligence tests tend to score better in tests of visual attractiveness, because life isn't this wonderful fair thing where you can't be both dim and homely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 02:31 PM
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hot and pleasant but dumb rather than an unattractive asshole Can I choose an apartment to myself and large amounts of masturbation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 02:30 PM
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One of the smartest women I know was a host of psychological issues - sorry, I'd take average intelligence but being reasonably down to earth over that at any time. Hmm, but it sounds like you have an unusual bias for presuming stark raving bonkers. My experience is that less intelligent people can be insane too, its just less likely they'll have anything approaching coping skills. you professed to be into nerdy guys; if you look at least semi-decently, odds are that attracting them is like shoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 02:26 PM
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Uh- huh, on the other hand certain factors like a good hip to waist ratio tend to correlate with female intelligence. All that brainy achievement shit correlates with being higher status- you set trends like what other women name their kids. Your status symbols trickle down until eventually they get devalued because the lowest social tiers glom onto them. You can tell me you just want a sweet not smart girl all you want, but at the end of the day the cultural shtick that goes with being brainy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 11:47 AM
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You know, the metric to which one decides domestic responsibility is Hours Worked + Commute, Personal Standards, and Limits of People. I do more housework than Gentleman despite working a similar number of hours because he is frequently deathly ill and I am slightly more of a fussy person than him. It has nothing to do with spiders, there is no lawn work, and general home fixing is a both people thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 10:58 AM
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Given the general male reaction to their perception I'm a smart person, my intellectual curiosity etc... has always been a powerful factor in guys deciding I was sparkly and unique. So as long as there are enough fanboys of uh... Guys who do make passes at girls who wear glasses, the personal anecdote that you find PhD girl tedious is never going to get the effect you want it to. Maybe if you tried different framing? Because right now the arguement tends to revolve around "I don't care about you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 10:48 AM
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I am talking about personal experience here Right, I'm talking about my personal experience and perceptual studies. ample reason to be critized on that basis Maybe all leaders are bitches and we just fail to use that word on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 10:01 PM
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... Also the studies are related to, you know, scenarios where they take the same piece of text an assign male and female names to it and get people to give their reactions. And thus it has zilch to do with the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 09:36 PM
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If I swap my gender to male online I get significant less crazy/angry/irrational accusations thrown at me. I also stop being asked how I look.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 09:30 PM
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No, I/we get told I'm "too aggressive" and "crazy". This has been repeatedly studied- assertive behaviour attributed to women is rated as more bitchy, unpleasant and violent than the same behaviour attributed to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 08:58 PM
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does this mean the female is not truly attracted to her husband or boyfriend? We don't know why she doesn't do them. She could think these activities are inherently sinful now. She could have disliked them the times she did them. She could need a confounding variable (eg getting stoned) to feel comfortable enough to do whatever. Her partner's equipment could be radically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 06:06 PM
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If she actually ended up with the perfect guy for her. We all dream the dream. Nonetheless, sex does appear to get better for women as they age. Anecdotal personal evidence says yes, it takes a surprising amount of time to learn to operate your own equipment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 05:51 PM
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Depends on your framing and your interactions with the individuals, as well as how your assumptions guide your behavior, now doesn't it? For example, note how leaping to me "demonizing male sexuality" involved you operating off some pretty broad and over riding assumptions? That's the difference between having preferences and letting your beliefs haul you to strange, awkward places. I suspect you've probably experienced a lot of dominant shaming (and fuck 'em for it!), so its not that unnatural …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 05:09 PM
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There is nothing wrong with being attracted to someone submissive and kinky You are literally talking to the wrong person about that. I moderate /r/femdom. Paaaahlease mister, take your weird persecution complex to someone who doesn't write D/s erotica for beer money. :P If you assume all Koreans are kinky and submissive you are racist. If you like submissive kinky girls you have a sexual fetish and that's cool. As in all things, framing matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 04:19 PM
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Humans like being desirable as long as they feel in control of the desire. But I think this is a subject were we end up talking past each other a lot. Generally us sloots are not largely concerned with random individual men wifing us, its that there tends to be a collective bit of nonesense that, among many things, calls our behaviour a risk to ourselves that makes us more deserving of a kind of violence we consider more arbitrary, a mark of less competence, etc... On the flip side, there's a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:49 PM
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Inflammatory gets you no where- like if I posted asking "TERPs! Have you stopped beating your wife yet?!" I'd get a very different reaction than if I asked "Guys, in your opinion what level of physicality is appropriate in a relationship? In so far as your follow up question "what do you all like to do for fun in your free time that isn't about self-improvement?" That leaves you open to eliminating things like putting on my Panda onsie and binge watching Netflix while cuddling, since this does f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 02:44 PM
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The term is "heteroflexible" I was going by "bi-curious" but after a certain point I was starting to look like a slow learner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 02:19 PM
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How long before you end up under the Paris Opera House in a half mask, strangling people and telling confused women to sing for you, my angel of music?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 12:48 PM
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Its racist if you try to justify your fondness for a physiology with racist stereotypes- see "Pearl likes semites!" VS "Semites are better because who doesn't like graduate degrees and being neurotic?" Or "I like the facial configuration typical of Korean women" VS "I could go in for some Korean food. Baby you are the best, you are a submissive kinky flower!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 12:38 PM
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Psychological gets more complicated because studies in personality psychology show that individuals describe the opposite sex in terms of stereotype but are more likely to use the same gender neutral vocabulary to describe themselves. It like how everyone tends to think they are of above average intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 12:22 PM
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I'm not sure- I have a moderate n count and a perverse lifestyle. But there is no shortage of men trying to wife me. So when I disagree its more "no, I think I am a good partner and also this belief does not conform with my reality". The fact that I would never fuck a TRP and that they would only have sex with my body while trying to ignore my personality enough not to kill their erection doesn't bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 12:20 PM
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I don't like Benedict Cumberbatch or Tom Hiddleston, but its not my job to dictate to a million tumblr female wankers their fantasies are wrong because either of the Gyllenhaal siblings are more my type. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 12:15 PM
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I gave a critique, but if you are sincerely trying to understand, I am suggesting a continued line of inquiry. It seems like some of what you are trying to understand are the priorities of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 12:07 PM
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Can I suggest a follow up question asking users what their nonwork free time is spent doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 11:28 AM
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Mais oui, il fait partie française , partie arabe collés ensemble avec la rigidité de la turgescents britannique. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 08:20 PM
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I don't understand why you are so against the idea to encourage man to look critically at the women and their life. Because I'm coming from this from the opposite side of things and it doesn't help to split men between unless cute things I can fuck and skilled people. Sometimes men don't owe me shit to get basic respect, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 04:54 PM
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Haha, yeah, well I certainly wasn't trying to be scientific. Well then, you were asking leading questions to try to confirm a preexisting belief. And I don't see anything wrong with challenging women. It's the exact opposite of "aw, you are a woman, you look beautiful and I need to protect you." That's um... a very strangely binary way to approach 50% of the species.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 04:26 PM
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I second this motion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 02:14 PM
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The OP was framed such that it was supposed to be a challenge to women doing $things. The fact that you asked whether I was a typical woman/ stacked it with trying to get us to think harder implies in the use of phrasing, a very leading set of questions. If this were going through assessment experiment design, unless you were measuring for emotional response to surveys you would be getting a lot of frowny faces from the review committee.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 02:10 PM
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This discussion is like a microcosm of every gender thing ever: "Women, you have less value because you fail to do $manthing that is manly." "Some of us do $manthing." "You are freakish exceptions and I'm not going to count you as women. Also you are probably bad at being a woman, which is lesser but if you fail at that you have no value even if you do $manthing." "Okay, we will try to do more $manthing. Will you respect us now?" "Damn it woman, stop invading our male space and demanding to be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 12:58 PM
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Not enough seperatist feminists? Hey, that's like, just your opinion man. :P No analogy of national comparison would or will be perfect, all countries are subject to fundamentally different pressures. I do feel, given the influence of welfare on maintaining the social order (eg the sort of situations you can get family support) you can make a crude comparison. I don't disagree that Norway has a lot more going for it than just oil- but my point was that as far as conscious efforts to shape their …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 11:06 AM
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Our leader hard at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 10:45 AM
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How did we go from "society is more feminist" to assuming I meant all Swedes were all political clones? You can say many Swedes disagree with gender quotas, but its still a part of their political selection process. Structurally they are more feminist. No country is a feminist utopia (dystopia). Of course individuals disagree- its not like feminism drugs the water supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 10:45 AM
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Si vous habitez à une ville français, pour une femme, ouf! Les homme sont très mignons. Masculines mais jolies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 01:33 AM
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Yes, but after you've died of sexual exhaustion, what are we to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 10:45 PM
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Nah, because if I approach the opposite sex that way I miss out on all the cool competent dudes. Its like its not infrequent that I am the Smartest Person in the Room (TM), but I should never presume I'm more clever than anyone I meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 09:09 PM
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Libidos vary?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 08:13 PM
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I think its because of personal selection bias. You know the concept of an orbiter? Imagine if 95% of your interactions were tilted to people to whom adjectives like "magical" were the context that they though to you in. Thus its easy to be lazy and conclude you are seeing the sum total of the opposite sex. If TRP is to believed, being surrounded by fanboys is not an unusual state of being for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 08:11 PM
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Well if you don't have aids or a prolapse, that's something you have going for you. Judging from your posts, you seem like a perfectly articulate coherent person who can get other people to be interested- so unless you are unable to enjoy sex unless the woman is literally not consenting or something, are you sure its not all in your head?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 08:07 PM
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The least able to navigate the world I live in are little old white dudes from rural Ontario who call me "sweetheart". Does that help? If I was sexist enough to extrapolate based on the guys I know versus the women I know, I know less competent guys but I know a lot of competent men, and I've worked hard on my innate sexism in regards to males in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 07:42 PM
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Hey, no problem, I can only hear the words as they sound in my head, if everyone else hears "THIS PERSON IS A TOTAL CAKE!" they're probably correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 07:36 PM
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If I'm not friends with them, I wouldn't know about the intimacies of their life now, would I? In my broader experience there tends to be certain problems men are more likely to have training with, but these are not the sum of everything that is important, just like stereotypically female things are not the thing to which the world revolves- I wouldn't claim to be better than men because I can replace buttons. Most people of both genders are pretty feckless about problem solving. In so far as my…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 07:23 PM
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Hey, you still made a sincere effort to explain, and for that I am grateful. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 07:01 PM
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Why does it need to be neutral in nature? Why lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 06:29 PM
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Show me a woman who tries to get better at a skill when she is not obligated, forced or actively encouraged to do so. Oh hai! Learning French and Python. Taught myself how to draw when I was 14. Took up fencing in college and running in my late 20s. Taught myself how to cook. Etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 06:28 PM
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had problems with your computer. Me! I'm a tech right now because writer doesn't pay shit and fixing computers doesn't come home with you after work the way all the traditional chick shit does. wanted to buy a new bike, camera or any other expensive gear and needed someone who really knows their stuff and has a good overview of the market. Someone who has a subscription to relevant magazines and enthusiastically reads them. My female friend "Redhead", who knows more about consumer design than I …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 06:15 PM
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Instead you waited 10 minutes, made a big deal about leaving and insulted everyone else participating by flat out saying the conversation couldn't possibly add anything of value (I don't remember your exact wording, but it was unnecessary and rude). Mhm, and the topic was not the one I initially agreed to discuss either, the organizer promised, after I repeated my reservations about GLO, to handle things differently. If Baker or Maya were insulted I apologize to them, but I sincerely doubt it. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 05:28 PM
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Hmm, but treatment is also going to have cultural implications (see how some countries love certain medications and others are morally opposed)- and depression (and anxiety, to which many of these pills are being used for) is NOT the same thing as being generically unhappy. You can't cure a depressed person by giving them a birthday cake and a blow job. But when you're making comparisons, Sweden and Norway are both pretty far down on the rate of suicides, but South Korea (a wealthy not very femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 04:46 PM
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Yes. Women, on the other hand, need to put in considerably more effort if they want to have as many orgasms as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 03:48 PM
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It's the way love, or rather limerance, works. For a few weeks to a year or so (with a few rare weirdoes who love for years or forever) the object of your affection might as well have hung the moon in the sky for all you are able to rationally assemble their good points. Both men and women do this, although how vulnerable they are to infatuation determines how often and to what degree of intensity. Must suck as far as the effect on your feelings if you keep getting girls who don't bother to lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 03:45 PM
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Doesn't that just as easily imply that actually their lives are so nice that their biggest problem is securing their happiness, as opposed to say, dying of sepsis from child birth? I mean use of medical services is not the same things as being sicker. Women get more preventative care than men because of the sexism that men deal with when they try to look after their health. So the presence of anti-depressants probably has a lot more to do with state funded medical care giving them access to bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 03:30 PM
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When a woman sleeps with too many guys, or is abusing a perk He specifically grouped this in as being part of exploiting womanhood. Given the "but women can get laid easily" point that's part of TRP, sleeping with men easily is a perk. So is exploiting this perk exploiting men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 03:08 PM
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Yeah, but the "creating your own societies" thus far attempted are all small scale projects you can fit onto a commune (at best like a religious community) or island, or colonial expansion into an occupied territory. You can't create a human society that is not an extension of the society it departed from - maybe Israel is the closest, but you've got some pretty basic socialist influenced feminism baked in there. And there's no such thing as a static uninfluenced society- at the very least arch …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 03:06 PM
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I think being "no fun" is an accepted requirement for feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 02:16 PM
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Depends on the guy, but I think its pretty implicit that every woman who ever complained about her husbands obligations interfering with their relationship is facing the same problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 12:19 PM
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You know, lesbian separatist communes are a thing? They just aren't very interesting because when women GTOW they actually do it, and do so quietly with no interest in the opinions of those they leave behind. And they are generally okay as far as management. The main problem they face is that even if monastic arrangements may be quite sustainable in the short term, you need to make a significant allowance for reproduction and recruitment that is incompatible with abandoning the opposite sex enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 11:57 AM
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Hey, I said no GLO if you wanted Pearl, he delivered GLO, I noped out. I'm consistent- I wouldn't respond to his post on PPD, so I am not going to have anything to contribute in a podcast that included him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 10:55 AM
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Kinky does not equal submissive. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 08:06 PM
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1) I'm "above average" in attractiveness. 2) I'm extremely nurturing. 3) I have a non-stop libido. 4) I'm relatively intelligent. 5) I am relatively good at life management. 6) My daddy's rich. 7) I'm ridiculously frugal. 8) I'm OCD about birth control. 9) I'll look after you when you're sick in a way that makes you feel better. 10) I'm unflappable about your weakness, and event supportive. 11) I'm nerdy, if you're into that. 12) I'm fucking adorable. 13) I'm aggressive and sincere about my attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 07:55 PM
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I dunno, I generally have boys for fun and uh... marriage material. Gentleman is, as sure as some irrational magic, been able to wrench my heart out of my chest and into his grasp, but with a wider circle of guys they are cute and fun to do sex things with but I don't exactly imagine marrying them. And its always been thus. Maybe you need to be a sloot to understand this sort of thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 07:34 PM
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/bliss
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 06:28 PM
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I have zero interest in other people's fantasy life. As long as he's not bugging me or being weird, a guy can imagine dismembering me and eating the pieces, if that's his thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 06:26 PM
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I think acting the damn fool is moderated by social expectations. Some humans of both sexes are gonna be thirsty, but I know, for example, certain subcultures have different levels of how much they think your gender should short circuit your brain and behave accordingly regarding factors like catcalling. Thus, yes, setting a norm that certain behaviours are stupid works to stop the behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 05:56 PM
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I think that pedestals are only helpful if you want to sustain inequality- they tend to be a crutch for situations where basic respect seems beyond the grasp of the participants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 05:37 PM
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How is having a lot of sex exploiting men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 05:04 PM
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Nevertheless... For similar "wtf?" party voting in Canada shows an inherited component. Even though indeed the parties of today have gone through considerable shifts in platform and motive, the fact that their great - great - great grandfather war a Tory is often good enough for the voter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 01:01 PM
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Ever heard that quote from Helen Mirren about "powerless power?" A lot of modesty cultures have this at their core, the idea that men are uniquely vulnerable in a way women aren't, and pile on restrictions and shame. It really doesn't actually help, because this vulnerability simply shifts to encompass whatever fabric swathed, shy and soft spoken creature comes out the other end. Some point into puberty, while I was running around playing guns with boys, the whole social dynamic changed to empha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 12:37 PM
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I did it while shoving someone else's ass through grad school, and frankly it was made harder by his presence not easier. So anecdotal to your point, I think if I did a life do over I'd do that half decade on sloot mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 10:48 PM
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Wait, who helps me through my education period? This devoted wife thing sounds like a good deal, do women get one too?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 10:16 PM
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My parents? They can't even get their own shit sorted, why the hell would I expect them to sort mine out? They can't even be friends on Facebook, I don't want to see them try to pick me a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 09:34 PM
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Technically so did some men to other men. But the biggest change over was probably the increasing decline of value for raw physical strength coupled with reliable birth control and medical care, tied together by modern mass communication. For much of human history a lot of the specialized labour of women was things like manufacturing textiles, tending fires, etc... While these tasks generally have been simplified and automated out of existence, the increase of wealth that came with the industria…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 08:18 PM
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The same issue also suggests buying a silicone pastry brush as a teaser and using your bra to tie him up. Another sex tip from another issue suggests grabbing his penis with both fists and twisting your arms as hard as you can in opposite directions. They also really like lightly slapping cocks and mention food sex pretty religiously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 04:01 PM
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Ahem, from the August 2012 issue: "Press a fork (firmly, but don’t break the skin or anything) into different parts of his body — his butt cheeks, his pecs, his thighs." "As you’re riding him, clamp down on his earlobes with your fingers, and pull on them to rock yourself forward and backward." So comparing TRP to Cosmo is not flattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 03:51 PM
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I guess my point mostly focuses on whether you see all female sexual behaviour as "giving" and that AF is just an attempt to ensnare said dude or whether you see the sex she is having as being inherently rewarding. Looking at the hard data on female sexual behaviour, they seem to enjoy sex more in committed relationships, but also their ability to enjoy it goes with age - for example multiple orgasms generally kicking in at what TRP generally sees as post wall (with her beta...?). We also know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 03:38 PM
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Eh, hot crazy wild sex compliments pornography. People who live the dream still will consume sexual media. Back in the day men worked hard as physical labor and were strong as fuck. Reports from every time a draft was called, etc... actually says that a lot of the population was physically sickly and under weight. We tend to forget very quickly how much starvation was a serious problem in the west basically up until the end of WW2. So there were physically competent people because of all the far…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 02:27 PM
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This presupposes that sexual arousal is something that's by conditional comparison instead of a base state. Picking someone based on qualities other than that they make you tremblingly horny does not mean you are unaware that some people are just more... interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 02:13 PM
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At that point it turns into splitting hairs about how she is "ruined" or "used up", because as far as they are concerned she's supposed to trade the first decade of her time as an adult for the next following 4-5 decades where she is seen as worthless for their sexual purposes. So its not as much a matter of being worried about cuckolding and feeling that they need someone 18-29 ish to be happy, but will somehow be happy with her as long as they got that first decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 03:24 PM
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Yeah, as a tool the problem is that its used to explain cultural phenomena with little fables about how some trait was useful in primitive times. The reality of evolutionary pressures are not always directly teleological or don't always have the meaning that we assign to them, and that any human observation is tainted by our beliefs about how things "should" be and they tend to assume how things are now was how they must have been in the past, such as the "women like pink because berries". Or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 02:40 PM
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You know regardless on how much you emphasise being completely phobic of women is somehow healthy because some women are terrible, that's still like if I were trying to get heterosexual dating advice from a political lesbian. Hell, I have female friends who are functionally too scared of guys to date. I just wouldn't go to them for advice about men collectively. And indeed the idea that TRP is just Cosmo for dudes is still not a flattering comparison- the best you can hope for is "just as bad as…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 01:21 PM
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God forbid. She was a niave twit. I kind of like the body I have now best, 10 years later. Its in better shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 11:19 PM
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The problem is that there is no magic formula. It's asking for the impossible and thus you have a cross between Cosmo's sex tips and Baby's First Serial Killer Manifesto being sold by a collection of shock jock style self promotion focused shysters and voluntary celibates to whom their anxieties about the opposite sex are their biggest barrier, not technique. The same logic is basically what fuels the sale of love potions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 09:59 PM
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Aerobus, literally NO women appear to be good enough for your standards. That's not conservative, that's that you are effectively asexual because you are displeased with the actual women that exist. All of them. Even the RPWs aren't good enough for you, for all that you happily give them your perspective and they never could be. I don't even think a century ago the women were good enough for you. And I don't mean that as a dig at you, just that any comparison of X woman to Y woman is effectively…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 06:05 PM
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Ah, Cosmo, home of the sex tips like "run a fork along the inside of his thigh" and "wear two pairs of panties".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 05:52 PM
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Nah, you need other humans. Plenty of women are perfectly happy to be emotionally supportive, but everyone has their limits. Trick is finding the individual balance that works for you. Being "attracted" to someone who needs support is like being attracted to doing laundry. Like, literally, when I started spending a lot of time at Gentleman's place doing his laundry just... happens. Likewise I do all those support things: rub his shoulders, listen to his troubles, etc... I don't think I'm all tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 05:49 PM
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The type of guys who gravitate to women for "emotional support" are in fact looking for female attention/affection, and using your platonic relationship as a substitute. A lot of humans of both genders are dependent on this - but actually I'd put it the other way around that guys are stuck getting this sort of attention only through sexual relationships. So this puts guys in a particularly awkward position- I can ask other straight women to brush my hair, provide suggestions to managing my relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 03:18 PM
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I did not ask him to change my lightbulbs. I posted on facebook "does anyone have a ladder I could borrow?" because it seems silly to buy an entire ladder to change two lightbulbs that need to be replaced once every couple of years. He responded with an affirmation - I only found out he was at an event when he arrived with a ladder. Discovering that I'm 5'5" and even on the top of his ladder the light bulbs were out of reach, he changed them. I discovered from talking to him that this was not a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:40 PM
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If not for actual sex, then quasi-romantic attention from a female. Hmm, but my experience with this is that stretched into quasi-land, they just enjoy the company of women. Like a lot of guys I'm friends with will lean on me for emotional support because I am female, more so than for their guy friends. So my gender is relevant, but they are mostly looking for someone who they can be vulnerable at who responds by telling them all the girls they were to oblivious to notice. Of course my experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:23 PM
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I more have fantasies of enslaving men and keeping a stable of sexy gladiators, but my favourite local BDSM club has a ridiculously popular men's wrestling event in the cuddle room that's mostly sub or switch ID'd males. Femdom gonna dom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:15 PM
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If the guy knows, with absolute certainty, that there is no chance at all, the flirting is a lot less fun. That's a subjective opinion. Some people really do enjoy this stuff for its own sake. For example if you will never fuck the girl in a bikini poster, but plenty of people like to decorate with sexy ladies for their own sake. There's a definite split between people who see flirting as fun and people who see flirting as a means to an end, no matter how remote. I like it when guys I never will…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:11 PM
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Yep! and why I think anyone who embraces that is a raging asshole who is part of the problem. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:26 AM
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The amount of sex that goes on under the table at a strip club is pretty insane. Depends on the stripper, but I'm friends with a few, as well as women more actively involved with sex work and nope, sex in the champagne room is not a given. If you want to get fucked here in Montreal, you don't go to a strip club, you go to say, one of the many, many blatantly advertised "massage" parlours and someone jerks you off (or more).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:25 AM
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The cost for not being cheery and social is higher than dealing with the occasional nutcase who acts butt hurt because his desire for me outweighed his ability to understand context, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:20 AM
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The sort of flirting you're describing of smiling and so forth actually works between two straight women, or on exclusively gay men and so forth, which is one of the challenges inherent in not being able to turn your sexuality off if you're a woman. And when you do that, you're literally just being nice- its the social version of giving someone ear scritches.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:04 AM
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I don't think your understand that flirting is not teleological. For example plenty of people know that strippers will never fuck you. Their job description is specifically not fucking you while being as arousing as possible. People want that tease for its own sake and strip clubs stay in business even where prostitution is also legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 12:45 AM
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Can confirm. If all else fails, walk on his keyboard or do figure eights around his ankles as he tries to walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 12:41 AM
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Nope. Depends on the action though- we tend to get more punished for things like sexual promiscuity. Generally the nuisance women deal with is that we are both seen as less culpable... but also less competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 12:25 AM
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Generally anyone who thinks I am a child, or at least should be treated like the oldest teenager in the house, has lost the baseline respect I usually give out. My discussions are mostly just to try to understand a fundamentally alien world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 08:51 PM
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The problem with trying to be more specific is that it is going to be connected to age and social background. Men's fashion isn't quite the zoo women deal with as far as consistency, but how a 19 year old engineering student presents himself will not be the same as a 28 year old investment consultant and still not the same as a 35 year old married father and digital marketing manager- and none of these would dress like a 25 year old doing seasonal construction. That's not even getting into where…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 03:13 PM
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