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No, they were always here, some new ones, but some no longer posting. BPs simply aren't responding as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 08:11 PM
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Christ. I don't know which analogy was funnier. I'm brigading you with Upvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:27 PM
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You've fallen for one of the worlds classic blunders! The first, never get involved in a land war in Asia. And the second, but slightly lesser known is this- don't take everyone on this thread so seriously. They're not approaching you honestly, and don't care what you say. Some are, and do. Suss them out. Forget the rest. I can give you my short list of red pillers worth talking to and save you some trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:04 PM
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Did you read the rest of the exchange? If you did, then you also don't understand what others are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 05:23 PM
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Then you can post a few on a main sub, get quick karma- that can be your "askfeminists" account. Really lots of people do this it's not difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 02:50 PM
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Very typical example of a conspiracy theorist. Take a few days. We can discuss that article too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 02:09 PM
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No. You don't understand what any of these links are saying. You don't understand what's going on. You've got full context, yes, and you still don't understand. You're looking to demonize feminists, not understand what any of those links say. Like most MRAs you were feminist first? I've heard that one lots of times. Red pillers claim it all the time. How could you call yourself something if you don't know what it is? Seriously. Look at these posts you've written. Should we take a few days break …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 01:10 PM
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No, you are wildly misinterpreting what you link to. I don't mean to talk down to you but there's a huge gulf between what you're saying and the links you're posting because you're not interested in understanding what's going on. You want to demonize feminists. I've seen the laundry list of MRA complaints. They don't understand their own issues. Highly recommend you post to askfeminists to sound more credible. Feminism is much more than more women in STEM- that's just the activism I do. I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:55 AM
2

You don't get excited from emptying the dishwasher? It's the highlight of my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:25 AM
1

I agree that relationships don't fail for no reason. That's not what I said at all. I'm saying that meeting the right person is not enough to get you through the pitfalls of marriage. I say you don't understand because red pill does not understand marital relationships. And you adhere to red pill. It gets you a superficial encounter with some people some of the time. Marriage is much more complex and red pill does not have the tools to understand or cope. I say you don't understand because liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:23 AM
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I apologize, I'll modify my statements in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:58 AM
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And? The feminists here agreed with the article, you acted as if they said something else entirely, and then brought a bunch of links having nothing to do with the topic except that you demonstrated a disconnect between what is said and what you think is being said. Yes, you should go utilize the subreddit. Go ahead. Maybe you'll start understanding what they are saying instead of what you think they are saying. Since you discount those that respond to you here, and you get your information from…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:48 AM
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No, that's not a good comparison. You don't like them breaking down gendered stereotypes and roles. Not everyone agrees with you. They don't want to be restricted. You are, of course, free to have a traditional relationship. Restricting women from voting is not giving them a choice. Women who think they are inferior to men are, of course, free to not exercise their right. I don't understand why MRAs bring up the tender years doctrine at all. It's anachronistic. VAWA is implemented unequally desp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:39 AM
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Alt accounts are difficult to make? Many have alt accounts to participate in the rest of reddit anyway. If you want to be informed you'll have to expend some effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:37 AM
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And now they have....? You did realize that I agreed with the article and said that it's changing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:28 AM
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I'm recommending it for the humor, not objectivity. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 02:10 AM
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LOL. And nicely put.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 02:01 AM
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Amazing. You do realize that not a single feminist here said this? They all agreed with the article? I keep telling you guys to use the askfeminists sub and few are up to the challenge. Certainly doesn't stop you from pretending that feminists are saying what you want them to say. How could you possibly continue with your caricature if you actually knew what the talking points were?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:56 AM
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I see your point, and disagree. You want to make claims about a movement (or anything really) by how much people who don't know anything about it know? That's called ignorance. Go to the source and that will reflect what's actually happening. Aside from that, if you ask random people to name feminists, they'll most likely not know anyone aside from Beyoncé. Who is a WOC.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:53 AM
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No, I support doing studies that show the subconcious bias that people have, and disseminating the results so that people are aware, and try to take that into account the next time they make a decision. Which is what's currently going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:43 AM
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Why would you even ask this. Even if I couldn't name 5 off the top of my head I could certainly Use google to fill in my knowledge gap. Haven't you heard of intersectionality? I regularly read feministing, which has black feminists contributing- both male and female incidentally. Never heard of it even though you follow closely? Haven't heard of WOC entertainers that are feminist and express it in their work? Havent heard of the crunk collective? Or WOC feminist novelists? Writers? Polemicists? …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:35 AM
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You read them specifically to debate them? Christ. I couldn't make it through the first book. Here: cleanse your palate. http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/340987215 She reviewed all three and did the trilogy. Had me in stitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 09:24 PM
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Yep. It's only changing recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 09:00 PM
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And perhaps it's apt, but I'd argue that being the thief is better than being the bum people walk over. Most red pillers would. What they fail to understand is that you don't have to be one or the other. And most people are not one or the other. Red pillers go from one extreme to the other and miss everything in between. And this is why (and I'm sure you've read my comments in the past) I've always stated that red pillers make themselves worse people. There is no self-improvement when you go fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 08:55 PM
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Fucking helicopter parenting needs to die a painful death, quickly. Can we torture it first? Agree with what you said about school being structured poorly for boys, It's structured poorly for both genders. Some boys have more difficulty with this. Chances are, it won't matter for your kid because it's a minority of boys that really have difficulty. That minority of boys is larger than the minority of girls. Save your private school money for something else. I don't think feminists really care ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 08:02 PM
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We're trying to encourage him to just turn off his brain and do things, without concern for whether or not he is able to do it perfectly right off the bat, and we have to resist the temptation to do it for him or show him how it's done... Bingo. Step back - don't interfere. He needs to take that stubborness that is directed at you 24/7 and direct it towards whatever it is that he's doing. You sound like you might like this blog http://www.freerangekids.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:40 PM
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Hey, I found two! Some radfem group all the way over in Australia: http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/14/of-course-madison-wis-feminists-are-protesting-and-boycotting-fifty-shades-of-grey-video/ And a bishop of El Paso, Texas: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/02/11/archibishop-calls-50-shades-an-attack-on-marriage/23219231/ It's horseshoe theory!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:10 PM
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Is there a boycott?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:00 PM
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Mine are older than yours. Don't worry about it now. Also, when you have the older one doing it, the younger will follow suit more easily. Around 3 - 4 they can start "helping" you. You'll see how competent they are and what they can handle - you'll be surprised at what kids can do. 6-7 you can threaten them with taking away of a privelege to keep them on a routine. But you do want to try and make it fun. There's loads of advice on how to get kids to do chores. To sum up: start young, do it with…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:58 PM
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I know you do! By your blood, sweat and tears! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:50 PM
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Here's a novel idea, let's take a look at what feminists are actually saying. (I know! What is this subreddit ever going to do with all that straw?) http://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/2cr599/what_are_men_to_make_of_all_of_the_hyper_popular/ http://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/2sdalk/what_is_your_opinion_on_50_shades_of_grey/ http://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/2w4l72/one_of_my_facebook_friends_posted_this_on_my_wall/ http://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/1s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:47 PM
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Not at all. Few here understood what she was asking. They saw the word "objectification" and went on auto-pilot. Disappointing. Could have been interesting if people actually read the OP. You're the one who doesn't read the sources you cite and fails to realize they don't back up your claims - so you didn't notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:19 PM
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she's doing us a favor. when you get going I have to wiki half the concepts and words you use
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:16 PM
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Once while backpacking through Europe (totally dig your estrogen fueled adventure here), I met a nurse in the streets of Paris. She spoke 8 languages and everything she owned was in the duffel bag that she carried. Moved constantly, took temporary work assignments. Part of the reason that I chose my field was that that it had both travel and a changing enviornment. It's EXCITING.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:49 PM
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Well, that was refreshing. Most here simply don't understand what it takes to raise children don't take women discussing how difficult it is seriously. I'll give you an upvote for being reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:39 PM
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I'm just stating that your views seem to be awfully old fashioned (which you kind of admitted yourself), and the stereotyping is not at all true these days. Pretty much. It's dependent on how you were raised, not your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:26 PM
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This is why you have to teach your kids to take care of themselves. So that they know that no one is going to wipe their ass for them (sounds like OP is having a rude awakening that life means you have to wipe your own ass), but also to get more help around the house. My daughter does the morning dishes before I even get home from work. My preschooler does the plastic dishes. They both put their own clothes away. They cook and clean to their age, set and clear the table. Start 'em young.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:22 PM
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what does that have to do with anything? You asked a question: And those are basically all the "domestic" tasks there are. Why all the fuss? And I gave you the answer. Kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:13 PM
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One word: Kids. One more word: No, that just about sums it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:07 PM
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you just don't understand that marriages ending up in divorce often start with mutual love and attraction between two people that are genuinely happy. Like I said- this thread is a bunch of myths propagated by the red pill- which does not understand relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:42 PM
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You misunderstand me. What's going on in the classroom doesn't have anything to do with feminism, but of helicopter parenting and a lack of knowledge about the value of free play. I'm talking about elementary school here. There is no test cramming. School is organized around how teachers think they should teach a subject such that kids can pass a test. Always has been. not how kids should learn a subject. It has nothing to do with girls organizational skills. Nothing to do with feminism. Now Edu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:38 PM
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There really isn't a distinction the way those two are written. He writes it as if the woman wants to date him but he's either a jerk or immature so she doesn't. Also, see the title. Yes: that is the premise. That you can't have both. And it's a bogus premise. That's why I say it's a myth. Precisely because the implication is that this is the case for the vaaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of women. Red pillers need to believe it. No one else does, they just live a life that red pillers don't believe exi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:54 AM
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I shouldn't have limited myself to number three. The range of choices is a myth because it does not reflect anyone's reality. But take a step back- look at where they are in life. This is how they view relationships. This. I really feel bad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:30 AM
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There's about 50000 other options there, and only some of them exist for some people. This thread is bogus.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:21 AM
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Not at all. Because most don't. It's easier to rationalize beliefs and actions on the red pill if you assume they do but this entire thread is simply bogus. I know red pillers cling to this myth like there's no tomorrow: their outlook is dependent on it, as is their self worth. They simply can't handle everyone who's in a good relationship with someone they truly want to be with because they don't experience it. Much of the world is an anathema to the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:19 AM
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No, the whole premise here is faulty. Look at what's being asked: Women, there are only 3 types of guys, correct? (No distinction between 2 and 4 really. 1) you don't want to date or sleep with 2) you don't want to sleep with but want to date 3) you do t want to date but want to sleep with None of this exists. This world simply does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:16 AM
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Yeah, that question is a bit too advanced for this crowd. We're still discussing whether or not women are human and you post this question? There are a lot of solid posters on askfeminists. I think they'd understand your question better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:12 AM
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The whole premise of the thread is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:09 AM
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Not at all. The way this is worded, the whole premise of the thread is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:09 AM
-1

No, it's not. Oodles of more options OP (and you) can't conceive of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:28 AM
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I'm sure they do. Men also settle. People settle. this whole AWALT concept is wrong. And your beta bux comment is so off the mark. Also, not all your sources are even applicable did you read them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:25 AM
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Some men settle and some women settle. The AWALT way it's presented here is a red pill myth. Your interpretation of marriage is wrong. Have you read the title of this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:21 AM
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Good to see someone realistic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:14 AM
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I'm not an exception. It's an AWALT myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:10 AM
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Have you tried posting this on r/feminism or askfeminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:51 AM
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Bah dum. rimshot
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:50 AM
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The simple fact that women's behavior is so varied renders red pill theories myths. Red pill concepts are myths precisely because they claim AWALT but not really AWALT. Also, it's possible for single women to both live in poverty and be financially stable. They're not all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:46 AM
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I've seen it done. Don't want to take my word for it? Then don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:37 AM
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No, the question was asked of the women here, this is my answer. I have never viewed men this way. Why would I? Sounds like you're backtracking. By the time women's looks fade they have bux of their own. And usually most of their mortgage paid off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:33 AM
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OP was asking the women here (that's me) how they classify men. There is no type 3 for me. It's a myth. Again, I'm sure some men settle (yes, men settle too) and some women settle. I've never seen it. And I'm in my mid-thirties. However, I am aware that people (yes, both genders) do settle. Seems like something that happens with a small minority of people and red pillers fixate on it. They don't see good relationships. Good relationships are an anathema to red pillers because their ideology can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:28 AM
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The OP was asking the women here (that would be me) about 4 types of guys. Type number 3 doesn't exist for me. So again, why in the world would I want to commit to a guy I feel no passion for? I am a woman. Why would I want to do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:22 AM
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Perhaps for some women, but not for me. Why in the world would I want to be with someone I wasn't passionate about? OP was asking what kinds of men we knew. 3 does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 01:16 AM
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No. I'm saying that TBP claims moral superiority and they don't necessarily have it. That sub has many people that have nothing better to do than poke fun at others. And they have doxxed before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 12:55 AM
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4 isn't worth my time. 2 isn't worth my time. 3 doesn't exist. It's a red pill myth. You don't have enough "types" on your list.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 12:10 AM
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Fear of Doxxing. It's happened before. You don't need to be a misogynist to be a terrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 12:09 AM
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Books sometimes do. It's both a book and porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:33 PM
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Not at all. I'm not the one claiming that other people aren't happy/successful/whathaveyou by virtue of making a choice that I claim is impossible to do well. That would be red pillers, and they sound ignorant. The world has changed. I'm pointing out that those that must invalidate the choices of others are not complete with their own choices. Red pillers certainly have an axe to grind because the existence of the many women (and men) that have a good career, marriage and family goes contrary to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:31 PM
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Sorry, didn't see the edit. Yes, overworked. I won't argue with that. It's more difficult when the kids are small, easier when they're older. Despite that, men and women do it. I've seen it, it's quite common. People telling me otherwise simply don't know what they're talking about. The world's changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 09:29 PM
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Not at all. "Can" depends on the person. On the couple. Completely. I've heard mrs strom on RPW say pick two: career, kids, marriage. It's just ignorant. A bunch of women either incapable of doing all three or simply choosing not to do all three because they think their and their family's life will be better (which is a valid decision and I certainly am not going to fault them for it or claim that they aren't really happy or successful in their choices) but they are now trying to speak for other…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 09:22 PM
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And what is a first class scientist? Do you know how to define it? Because I know both, men (yes, male scientists are often wed to working women with full time jobs) and women, that have good marriages, family lives, and are first class scientists. They manage to do it. And yet, you want to take the claim of this woman that couldn't make it work and say that no one can? Baloney. Red pillers don't want to believe that others (particularly women) can and do make it work. So instead of being happy …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 09:02 PM
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your issues are common in both books and porn. Yet it's only women that like this book you have problems with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 08:57 PM
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That's true for everyone and everything. But since there are lots happy families with two successful spouses it seems like you've got an axe to grind to try and make it less than what it is. Do you need people to be just "okay" in order to validate your choices or beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 05:32 PM
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Could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 04:34 PM
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No, there's good people to debate with. You don't need to debate with everyone. I don't feel it necessary to initiate conversations with everyone. There's plenty not on "my side" that I enjoy talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 04:01 PM
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Yes. You can, in fact, have a good marriage, successful career and active family life. I know many men who, like me, have working spouses and manage to do it. Also, "Eco system" is a valid scientific concept not sure why you're bringing up Gaia.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 03:45 PM
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Her comment nixed by the many women (yours truly included) that manage to do all three.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 02:19 PM
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Sounds like you're secure enough with yourself to not need your wife to be insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 12:25 PM
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No need for an AMA. I'll answer whatever questions you have, by PM if the details become too self-identifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:59 AM
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Lawls! Frills for maximum masculinity!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:49 AM
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Gender roles are a social construct. Roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:47 AM
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You missed the point. The video was a fail. It got taken down within 24 hours because it was so sexist. The fact that it came from an organization that is trying to promote women in science just goes to show you how little they understood the problem. But they figured it out. What women need are role models so that they realize that these subjects aren't "for men." Seriously, that's all they need. And that's the approach the EU took afterwards. You should look at the responses to the video. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:43 AM
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Seriously, something weird is up in your department. Thats highly unethical. Not just what they're doing, but also that they're telling you. This story has red flags all over it. Not you- just the situation. Anyway- there's two things here from the survey. 1) women aren't interested. They felt pressured because if their gender. This is exactly what I was saying. Girls are actively discouraged from these fields from an early age. And they feel like they represent their gender in their actions- th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:35 AM
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Ok. So that's what TRP does for you. I don't know any sources. I'm not a man looking to date women. But validating TRP by saying you don't know anything better - that like saying you don't know how to get ahead in life so you steal. Do you really believe all that crap about women? I've talked with some people here who said they use TRP like a tool kit. They get what they want, the help that they need, but don't hang around lest they pick up too much of the toxic views on men and women. I can res…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:19 AM
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Here you go. To help you get over reading 50 shades. http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/340987215
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:11 AM
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Lots of books (much better than this one) have characters that are broken and need to be fixed. Many plots and character arcs center precisely on that concept. It gives an unhealthy view of D/s relationships and porn gives an unhealthy view of sex. There's no reason to single women out and berate them for what other people do that you aren't willing to berate them for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:08 AM
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The change is that instead of wondering why you can't relate to women, you have a subreddit telling you that it's not your fault. You can't relate to women because Women can't be related to! They only think about themselves, aren't logical or rational, act like children, are not loyal, and will drop you as soon as the next shiny object comes along. Solipsistic childish hypergamous sluts all of them. How can you relate to that? You can't. So? It's not your fault that you couldn't relate to them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:05 AM
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Towards girls? No. The gendered message is hard to miss. And it's harmful. Also, I'm a woman in a male dominated field, in a dual income family with kids that directly feels the impact of a society that does not value family friendly policies. You can bet your ass I'd still be a feminist even if I had sons. They're the only group actively working on those issues as well. It would have taken a few years more but I would have gotten there. However, as a mother of sons I'd do my best to go against …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 10:39 AM
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis It is a force behind evolution, not just a result. See the sub category "evolution" I.e. Competition isn't the only driver. Taking a step back, Eco-systems exhibit this on a more broad level, not just 2 species.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 10:08 AM
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Sincere. People have interesting stories to tell. And it's a good way to weed out the bad ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 10:02 AM
1

Looks like an orgy request
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 09:47 AM
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I think that sentence you made is highly contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 01:46 PM
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Symbiosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 01:00 PM
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Very well done. Amazing what can happen when you actually read a paper instead of looking for easily digestible zingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 12:57 PM
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Excellent. Seriously, all you have to do is read the articles they cite. The red pill world continues to display a lack of the very qualities that they think women are biologically incapable of having. I'm sure the irony is not lost on anyone here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 12:56 PM
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Per usual, red piller fails to understand the papers he links to. Makes crazy conclusions that have no base in what he cites. Demonstrates a complete lack in qualities that women are supposedly biologically disadvantaged at. Irony. Seriously red pillers. Don't double down. Take a step back and realize the idiocy on the sub reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 11:28 PM
1

Mazal tov!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:41 PM
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LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:31 PM
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They can't handle it. You must be some evil caricature feminazi! How else can they go to sleep at night!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:29 PM
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Well, I'm not ugly, I'm not a lesbian, I'm not manly, I don't own any cats, I'm happily married with kids, have a good paying job and I'm feminist. I got pregnant with a girl, looked around and didn't like the gendered messages society was telling girls (and women) saw that feminists were the only ones doing anything about it. And so I became a feminist. I'm not BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:27 PM
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I like to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:23 PM
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Feminist because I got pregnant with a girl, looked around, and was appalled at what gendered messages society was sending her. Feminists were the only group doing something about it. So I became one. Fortunately, the impact of real life role models beats cultural stereotypes hands down. Just got to spread the message. I'm not worried about my girls. But I want to help others, and so I support groups that do, and do outreach for what I'm qualified for. Also, feminists are the largest movement ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:11 PM
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Obviously red pillers and manospherians in general see women upset and venting about their problems and jeer/laugh/etc and call them entitled whiny babies, laughing at their pain and not caring if they're hurt. In other words, duh. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Don't complain about a lack of empathy in others when you have none. Lots of hypocrites posting on this thread. Complaining about behavior they themselves engage in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:13 PM
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Agree with the BDSM analysis. You're saying that women who like it have boring sex lives. Are boring themselves. You lose respect for them. Do men that like porn have boring sex lives? Are they themselves boring? Do you lose respect for men that like porn? The plots of porn aren't much better than 50 shades and the depictions of sex are just as accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:51 AM
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If he deleted it then perhaps I shouldn't repeat it. Why don't you Ask him to tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:30 AM
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Good for you. I couldn't help myself and it ruined the hunger games for me. I was so over love triangles by the time I started reading it, and it was so much better than the twilight story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:28 AM
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Word. Wait- barbed wire? Eeeeek!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:22 AM
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Hee hee. She's got everything from rocky horror to kids in the hall to Sesame Street- what a collection. Read the other reviews of the series. Just as good. She manages to review the book and give a social commentary, all while I ROFL.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:19 AM
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Yes, yes. Was trying to be funny. Not that his actual age is 105. I mean, how would I know that if I didn't read the books? I totally didn't read the books. goes off to hide in a corner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:17 AM
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Edward Cullen was 105 years old. TRP has you beat on this one. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:21 AM
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It Would depend on what you want out of life. Wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:52 AM
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I've also heard of Andrea Dworkin. Feminists do not do this non-stop. some feminists are anti-porn, and they are an ever decreasing minority. You are wrong. As I said, I wouldn't use porn to shame men any more than I would use literotica to shame women. And I'm a feminist. Would you use literotica to shame women? How goes the discussion of 50 shades of grey at TRP? Are they using it to shame women non-stop? Never mind. We both know the answer to that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:51 AM
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Why? Is porn for naive husbands who only do missionary? The women I know that like it are still in the beginnings of their LTRs, I'm amazed that they could get through it without clawing their eyes out but they read the trilogy. All three books Gah. It has an incredibly large audience. I doubt the overriding characteristic of that audience is that they aren't getting sex, or that their sex lives are boring. It's (poorly written) erotica. Lady porn. Sometimes I read erotica to get in the mood. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:47 AM
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Go ahead then. Follow through.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:29 AM
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Wayne's world! <3
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:23 AM
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Even more so, if you look at it from the author's point of view- she's middle aged.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:11 AM
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I empathize with your efforts. I tried reading it, started just skimming to the "good parts" and couldn't even make myself read those. Give up. It's horrible. It's ok to not finish a book. Life is too short! 50 shades made a market mainstream that many weren't aware existed. Apparently the need was waaaay overdue because the writing was excruciatingly painful, and it still sold more copies than the Gutenberg. If you want a hiLARious review, try this. http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/34098721…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:02 AM
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I agree. I'm just pointing out that it's another area where they are misinformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:52 PM
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Hah!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:27 PM
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Neither. A few of those traits are turn offs on both lists. No appearance rating?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:26 PM
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Was there a comparison made between young and old? No. So you can't make that claim. The study didn't make that claim - you did. You really think that the bitterness turns on at 50 like a switch? What exactly are you saying here? Your other study claims... what? You're now onto retirement, old age (old like elderly, not eek! a person who is 30!), spouses dying, levels of happiness.... No mention of bitterness in either link. You're all over the place here. One thing you certainly are showing is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:06 PM
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Where does that study say that the 30+ group is more bitter than the 20-29 group? And where does it say that it's only women this happens to? Yet another example of an RP making a claim, and bringing forth a study that does not back up the claim. Sigh. Did you even read what you're linking to? Again - some people are bitter. My world is crashing around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:54 PM
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Absolutely - she's saying that too many are in the opposite direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:42 PM
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Aww.. I was hoping for the RPs that participate here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:41 PM
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Logic is knowing that you were directing a post to me that referred to a post made by someone else entirely without linking to said post? Anyway - go ahead. Data mine for bitter things said by post-wall women. I foresee that the conclusions of your data mining will be that... some people are bitter. Earth shattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:40 PM
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LOL. Now we know, there are 5 distinct carbon copies. Ok - take it one step further and place our RP participants in their respective categories. Any RPs here have a similar breakdown of BP?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:31 PM
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I'm sure that sentence made tons of sense to you but I have not idea what you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:28 PM
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measure? No. Use a straightforward dictionary defintion to point out things that fit said definition? Yes. Isn't that what you were asking for in this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:13 PM
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Yes, I think it's hateful, completely wrong, not even on the level of pseudoscience. I certainly see the appeal to newbies. Here are the misogynist bits - but really, the whole thing is misogynist. And it's the welcoming committee. Today, the best that you will get is mocked, disrespected, cheated on, and divorce raped. Because there are no consequences to any of these things; and it's in a woman's nature. When a woman fucks around, especially with more "alpha men" according to the statistics an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:51 PM
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Is that the hostile/benevolent sexism study? Because it showed the same result for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:36 PM
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I'll give you an upvote for self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:33 PM
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Take women off the pedestal that you've placed them on and realise that they're people who behave in predictable ways. Be honest with yourself. It's not just taking women off the pedestal, it's relegating them to sub-human, inferior status. There is obviously more to it than that, but it's patterns of behaviour; perception of self worth, outcome independence; not tricks. Semantics. I'd call it tricks because it doesn't require much understanding and the bar for success is so low. No. If these gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:23 PM
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But.... He-Man!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:04 PM
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The mechanisms and language is different, but it's the same drive and affect just from the other gender role. How so? the drive for feminism is not to increase a woman's SMV and not to score a LTR or ONS. I see nothing in common between TRP and feminism. Whenever I see people pulling the "different sides of the same coin" bit, I view it as reaching - in order to validate TRP in some way by comparing it to a legit social movement. Mra's try to do exactly the same thing as feminists. But it doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:03 PM
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No, the article can't prove it's a natural instinct. It's the theory, yes. The data they gathered supports it, yes. BUT it doesn't prove that these are natural. Do you understand the difference? I could easily take the data and say that it supports my hypothesis that these trends are socially ingrained. I wouldn't have proof, but I could claim that it supports my hypothesis. I could take the differences in countries depending on how patriarchal they are and use that data to show that it's social…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:51 PM
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Social interactions can be done without playing mindgames. It can be done with mindgames as well. Maybe with the people you hang out with it's done all the time. Merely existing is not playing mindgames. It's existing. One does not equal the other. Mind games is something that you actively engage in. It's petty and immature. Oh, I'm sorry that it's such an overwhelming burden to garner the attention of numerous possible mates. You prove my point. RPs have no clue what it's like for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:13 PM
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Lol Game of Thrones. Can't wait for the next season.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:05 PM
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Ok... still haven't seen anyone saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:04 PM
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Social interaction consists of mind games. With some people who choose to engage in it. Existing is not playing mind games. It seems like you don't like the idea of someone else having an advantage that comes to you naturally. RPs have no clue what it's like for women in the dating world. This viewpoint about dread game is a symptom of it. That's understandable, but tough luck. someone will always be better than you at something, naturally. That's life. No one told me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:30 PM
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What mind games? The woman is not playing mind games. She is merely existing. Last I checked, it's okay to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:18 PM
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If you say so - I'm just not used to redditors spending so much time on me. You stood out. I don't have a good standard of comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:16 PM
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You're right, it's not obvious. Which is why so many fall for it. It's easier to see from an outsider's perspective. I apologize. AWALT, women are terrible people. Hardly human. Silly men, thinking they were dealing with actual human beings. They're not logical, not rational, act like children, not loyal, manipulative, incapable of honor, narcissitic, incapable of loving you, hypergamous sluts all of them, etc etc etc. You can't relate to them and they can't relate to you. And the current system…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:14 PM
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You don't know the definition of troll. I go through the studies and explain why the conclusions that RPs make have no basis in the study itself. It's not that difficult since the conclusions are that far off-base most of the time. People are welcome to respond, and I reply to their responses, until no one is interested in the discussion anymore. I'm polite with those that are polite with me, and try to give the benefit of the doubt to those that deserve it - everyone has a bad day now and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:59 PM
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Is being a woman so goddamn difficult yes and no, it's called the human condition that by having an equal state of dread game with a partner, I'd get rid of someone that played mindgames. Who's got patience for that shit? It's immature. life becomes completely unfair? Life isn't fair. Who told you it was? Why is this bullshit? Because existing with a vajay-jay is not dread gaming your SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:45 PM
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So a woman being a woman is dread game and society is okay with this (a woman existing) and therefore it's hypocritical to say that men shouldn't? Yeah, that's bullshit. But I know that that's what RPs believe. They don't know what it's like to be a woman, only what it's like to pursue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:26 PM
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The point of what? The question was why blue pillers say it's okay for women to dread game and men not to. Did you read the title? NO ONE ON TBP IS SAYING THIS. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:16 PM
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What I see in this thread is someone laughing and jeering at lame guys commiserating with one another. Then you didn't understand the post. What you saw were people (who obviously had RP views) laughing and jeering at the woman that killed herself. /u/craveravens pointed it out since it was the opposite of what the OP was claiming. I didn't see anyone laughing at the so-called lame guy. It's not straw - the OP is making a claim that feminists have no sympathy for these guys. This is the subject.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:12 PM
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How in the world does this statement claim that it's ok for women to engage in dread game, such as the OP described, and that it's not ok for men? I said - the OP made up a viewpoint that isn't expressed by anyone and then asked why people believe it. The answer, is that no one believes it, no one is expressing that viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:10 PM
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Many sites have voiced that women should be totally believed when they say they are raped. Yes, this is what I just said. This is not the equivalent of proving your innocence in the court of law. Like I said, it seems you don't understand the difference, and don't understand the talking points of third wave feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:07 PM
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No, women are the scapegoats. And feminism. Obviously. It's the misnomer about RP men taking responsibility. They're not, they're laying the blame on women who just can't help themselves by being shitty human beings by nature. Man up and learn how to deal with shitty humans. That's why it's so attractive. the illusion that you are taking responsibility for yourself when you're in actuality blaming something else. I mean, I can see why so many fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:05 PM
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Look at this: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2vmkm5/reactions_to_men_killing_themselves_vs_women/coj8n2w I just don't get it. Never mind that my example doesn't prove what I want to say, I'll just pretend it does! This thread was ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:01 PM
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I don't know any mainstream feminist sites that are advocating for guilty until proven innocent. They are saying believe the victim don't shame the victim. Not - prove your innocence in the court of law. These are very different concepts - perhaps the difference is lost on you. I don't think you have a good understanding of the talking points of third wave feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:55 PM
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Your example disproves what you are trying to say. /u/Cravenravens was trying to show you that it was the woman that was seen as entitled by the people that were commenting about her. Now who is seen as entitled? Who is seen as entitled? Not who is entitled. Who is seen as entitlted. The man? No, the woman who killed herself. by who? By someone who obviously shares common ideologogies with TRP. Really, if you want to prove this feminists-have-no-sympathy than pick an example that actually shows …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:52 PM
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No, that's not what mainstream feminism says.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:39 PM
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Pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:38 PM
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Feminism: political, economic, and social equ- no, no, no! Feminism: Happiness in men. Yeah, that sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:37 PM
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Okaaaaay - I thought I did address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:34 PM
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Why? You disagree with my statement, but why? All the quote above says is that you disagree. You claim (and I've seen this claim before) that RP isn't really that extreme because it's just locker room talk - what we're seeing is men being men, no holds barred. It's a bunch of baloney. We're seeing misogynists, no holds barred. Proof is the massive rejection of TRP by men who aren't misogynist. Who flat out deny that it is "men-talk". That's a cop out answer. It is not how all men talk. It's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:30 PM
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Yes, there are shitty people everywhere. I've seen women get told that they are entitled whiny babies for expressing their issues on twox or askwomen or askfeminists, etc etc etc. I'm sure they were also crushed. And yes, it is common. Very common. People are shitty. I haven't seen it IRL because I don't surround myself with assholes. But I know that assholes without a shred of empathy are in both genders. Feminists are people. They have the same positive and negative attributes as everyone else…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:15 PM
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There is no proof that it is in any way "natural." Please reread. You absolutely need "some". And not because of outliers. Where is the proof that everyone is like this? Where is the proof that this is a general rule? It's saying men more than women. Women more than men. Not "in general" women want this or "in general" men want this. Again, there is what you want the article to say, and there is what the article actually says. There is also a difference between hypothesizing, and proving. The ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:00 PM
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Did you not notice that no feminists were actually saying this? No one said entitled? The OP shot himself in the foot. He didn't even read the example he posted. It backfired on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:57 PM
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No, feminists don't claim that women are children and can't make rational decisions because they are women. That's what red pill says. So you shouldn't be agreeing for equal treatment under the law if you think women are children incapable of making rational decisions. You should argue that they need supervision. Like children. Be consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:56 PM
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No, literally I spent a good portion of time here showing RPers exactly how and why they don't know how to draw conclusions from scientific studies. And I'm not the only one. I've seen the conclusions that RPs derive from studies shredded to pieces not just by me, but by anyone who takes the time to look at the study (hell, sometimes just the abstract and conclusions are enough) and compare it to the wacky conclusions that are being made by the RP. Time after time after time after time. STEM my …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:53 PM
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Take away the word "naturally" add the word "some" before every gender and you're all set.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:14 AM
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Did anyone actually say it's ok for women to engage in these behaviors and not ok for men to engage in these behaviors? Why are you asking why, to a statement that no one is making?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:59 AM
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Actually, surveys said that only 50% of BPs identified as feminist so you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:56 AM
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Who said he was entitled? No one? The comments are the same. Tragic loss of life. Your "red pill perspective" is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:50 AM
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It's your claim, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:49 AM
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They don't know what to do with the journal articles they cite. They don't understand the articles, and they can't differentiate between what the article says and what they want it to say. They're uninformed, in general, and so don't have a proper refutation for work that contradicts their view- that's how you do a proper literature review. You survey everything in a topic. You don't pick a few articles that you like, and then misinterpret them. Really. When RPs bring a study here this is the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:44 AM
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And what problem do you believe TRP made to fix?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:38 AM
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I understand, I went through an ayn rand phase, too!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:21 AM
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Well, it was certainly enlightening to see just how differently we interpret current events. A good explanation for how you view the world around you. TRP isn't "male feminism". The closest you get are MRAs, who are equivalent to tumblr feminists, not feminism. I'm not sure what TRP is equivalent to but it sure ain't feminism. More like a white supremacist group, if that group was trying to sleep with the minorities they despised.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:20 AM
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Red pillers aren't very informed, generally speaking. So I wouldn't doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:17 AM
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If a gender are mentally children by nature the law should treat them as such. If a gender is incapable of making rational decisions then the state should make decisions for them or make sure they are under the wing of a gender that is capable of making rational decisions. Can't have it both ways. (Psst- this is how women were treated for much of human history because this is how women were regarded for most of human history)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:17 AM
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Who knows? Ugly is relative. It's enough to make an attractive guy no longer attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:16 AM
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I really don't care about who is down voting who although I do see some here commenting every other day about RPs or BPs downvot ing and the tint of the sub. Seems pointless. I appreciate the sentiment though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:15 AM
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An AWALT AMALT universe. Are all humans sexy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:13 AM
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That was precisely my point. All you need to be considered "successful" is greater than zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:12 AM
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Superior option for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:23 AM
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Well, I'm not surprised you believe that. If men and women aren't equal, then why should the law treat them equally? Be consistent at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:22 AM
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BLASPHEMY!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:19 AM
2

Well that's one more thing than I know how to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:53 AM
1

Lol. Ok kiddo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:48 AM
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Yeah, I can't orgasm from penetration, so this was a great discovery. Seems you don't have that issue!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:00 AM
1

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:58 AM
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A guy reading atlas shrugged? Ew! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uJkrCBZNL6c
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:47 AM
2

Would you like multigasms? Rocket pocket (or some variation thereof) Best $20 ever. Easy to use during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:45 AM
1

Nope. My husband wants to have sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:40 AM
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Absolutely. I'm feminist, and I want my husband to be happy. Don't let other people not understanding what feminism is get you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:19 AM
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Nope. He wants me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:16 AM
2

I see they have he-man pics up- they're a-ok in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:14 AM
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Like r/ trollychromosomes? Thats the whole point- posting gifs, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:11 AM
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What's with all the gifs? You have a gif in every post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:06 AM
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Hmm. That will be my next alt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:02 AM
2

I read an article written by... Can't remember her name. She argued that the 20's have become an extension of teenage years with too many youth not being goal focused and treating that decade as a time to try out new things and experiment- the end result being that they've got no career trajectory and that their 20's should have been spent increasing their earning power so they don't get stuck in a rut in their 30's. She said both jobs and relationships are treated like experiments and not the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 11:52 PM
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Yup. Realization that your PhD actually results in a net loss than if you would have stayed with your bachelors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 11:45 PM
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That's how I found TRP as well. Agree on the WTFuckery.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 11:37 PM
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That's only because they lose the postdoc/resident/clerk status around that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 11:34 PM
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No, a common defense of RPs for their posts is that they are expressing what others won't. It's a cop out, and load of baloney. Sexism is bad for the same reason that racism is bad. On a national level, it results in discrimination in many layers of society. On a personal level, if you're in a position of influence your decision making will be influenced by how you think someone would act hypothetically based on unfounded stereotypes. If you're not on the other end of it, and you have no ability…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 11:26 PM
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TRP is weird because the ideas are completely out there and hateful to the core. Not because it's a bunch of rebels raging against the system. They attract men and boys at their most vulnerable, provide a scapegoat and a solution for their problems. What do I expect? I expect the same as any other hate group that provides a scapegoat to people's problems. And there are many parallels between TRP and white supremacist groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 11:04 PM
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Ok, you argue that choosing not to have sex with men is sexist. I have no interest in straw man. I explained that generalizations are sexist. Dislike is misogyny. It's not that difficult. You were the one that said you found women boring and uninteresting outside of sex. That means you don't know how to relate to them. Which is a symptom of RP so I'm not surprised. Your hobbies aren't relevant I don't know why you keep mentioning them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 10:53 PM
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I bet there's a lot of fake stories. I bet there's a lot of true ones. I have no doubt that TRP works for some men, on some women, some of the time. That's not justification for the weird and wacky misogyny. Every story on TRP could be true and it still wouldn't justify AWALT because of the obvious selection and confirmation bias at play, everyone else's observations that much of the world just doesn't work that way, and that even if it did, there is still no backing for the Evo psych obsession.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 10:46 PM
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Libraries, bookstores, comic stores, computer game stores... Where would I look? A bar? Be serious. I don't want a guy that hits on women at bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 10:35 PM
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I don't say it doesn't work. Who says that? I say it gains you a superficial connection for some men, with some women, some if the time. It's a pretty low bar for success but that's all you need to say it works. It just has to work on 1 of the many you hit on. Weight loss has to work on you and you alone. The rest is just scapegoating, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 10:11 PM
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I thought you meant homosexual. Did you mean pretty and witty and gaaaaaaaaaay?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:49 PM
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I'll certainly get my man after midnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:46 PM
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I wouldn't ever fuck a guy, but I would fuck a girl....That's sexism by your definition. And that's why I have no problem with being sexist. Be serious. That's a strawman. The few people I do have the majority of my interests overlap with are almost all men. You can only relate to people that have the same hobbies as you? Well, there's a problem. You can't relate to people who aren't like you. I notice traits that are common based on gender and you telling me that makes me misogynist not only do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:45 PM
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That the new "just the two of you" won't look anything like the old "just the two of you" that I miss so much. Of course not. It will be better. The two of you when you're old crochety octagenarians shouting at kids to get off your lawn isn't going to be the two of you when you were in your 20's. You've got a lot of life ahead of you (god willing), life spent together long after your kids leave and move on. Don't mourn what's past, you're both different people now, and you're moving through life…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:40 PM
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Ah, then maybe two easy payments of $19.99 instead of 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:32 PM
0

it really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:25 PM
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It is not a literal promise but guys sub there with the expectation that if they do the 12 step program they'll start gettin' some. It's like a weight loss program, replete with stories: "I was on this miracle (red) pill for 3 weeks, and lost 12 pounds! Here's my picture before and after!" "Once I was a douchebag/beta/feminist/BP/doormat/niceguy and then I swallowed. Now I'm juggling plates/balls/fruits and kicking 'em out the door almost as fast as they throw themselves at me!" They're just mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:24 PM
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You've embarrassed yourself enough today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:21 PM
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I just see the world the way it is. That's pretty much it. The attitude that people owe you things you haven't earned is an entitled attitude. Dictionary definition. Many of the participants fit that description. It's not necessarily a moral judgement, it's an adjective that describes their attitude towards women. They think they are entitled to sex. Why those men are feel so entitled is another, more interesting question. One I don't know the answer to. But why I call them entitled? Because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:19 PM
1

Slash fiction is incredibly popular among the ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:15 PM
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No, that's not what I said at all. I said that if you expect sex from someone else because you have a job, you are entitled. Perhaps your inability to understand the criticism is why you posted this thread. It's pretty obvious to me. There's a difference between "wanting" and "thinking people owe you." Everyone else is saying "thinking people owe you" and you hear "wanting." And so you misunderstand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:08 PM
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Seconded. Yes, men who read turn me on. Intelligence turns me on. Wit turns me on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:03 PM
1

Jellicle cats!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:01 PM
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Like I said. Get an actual example. It's pointless to speculate on something that nobody gave your desired reaction to. If you're claiming that people are calling out men that think they should have sex because they have boxes checked off, then yes, those men think they are entitled to sex. They feel they deserve sex something they haven't earned. That's the definition of entitled. It's not that difficult. And I don't have a subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:00 PM
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He forgot the cats. What will we ever do without the cats to keep us company!?!?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:54 PM
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Incidentally, this also adds a much needed element/distinction to the idea of (bear with me) the captain/first mate dynamic. I agree - I tried this dynamic with my husband and it's just not good. I'm trying to be less combatitive (he appreciates that) but he doesn't like me deferring to him. It irritates him. He likes me taking initiative, there's a reason he married me and trying to change those characteristics he went for just isn't doing it for him. I have no doubt the captian/first mate dyna…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:52 PM
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RP using a study to prove TRP - doesn't understand that the study does not actually prove TRP. Must be Tuesday.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:43 PM
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This made me laugh. So the whole "never say no" thing - my husband refused me a few weeks back because he said I was too tired. But he appreciated the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:40 PM
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Do you think her observations are correct? No. She's generalizing. Many women are repulsed by assholes. Say "some women" go for assholes and I'll agree. What of it? "Some men" go for assholes as well. Do you think society should criticize women who respond positively to assholish behavior? Society does criticize them. What were you thinking? What were you expecting going for a guy like that? Why do you put up with that? Why don't you dump him? Why don't you leave? What's wrong with you? Why don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:29 PM
1

No, you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:23 PM
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Promise of sex and a scapegoat for their problems. Hard to resist for vulnerable people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:20 PM
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Meh. Newtonian physics are too mechanical. It's hard to relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:08 PM
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Yes, I've seen BPers say it too. I'm just pointing out to you that I don't agree. My criticisms of RP are solely based on the comments of those that consider themselves RP. Not: mannerisms, language, lifestyle, clothing, socio-economic class, of which I could care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:01 PM
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Yes, it's also political egailistarianism, economic egalitarianism and social egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:53 PM
1

I don't think RPs are all carbon copies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:47 PM
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I think the mistake (made by both parties, but I'll blame my wife, lol) was that the marriage was the first set of needs that got left by the wayside. We became increasingly focused on our own needs and less focused on "what would be good for our marriage?" This is so true. I never thought of it that way. I appreciate that sentiment. I know that our marriage can get taken for granted quite easily. If we don't work on it, it's difficult to see it faltering because we're so busy! It sounds like wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:43 PM
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Disappointment's a bitch, huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:34 PM
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Yeah - aside from the "never say no to sex" my husband isn't a fan of me deferring to him. He didn't know that I was trying anything new, but it really irritated him. I actually thought that it would reduce conflict, but it didn't. There's a reason that he married me, and it wasn't because I was submissive to him. I am trying to be less combatitive - I'm argumentative by nature and I'm trying to go about it less aggressively. RPW is definitely not for everyone, but I think that there is a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:20 PM
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Nope. This isn't going very well for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:08 PM
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Yeah, it's 2015 and people still believe this idiocy. The internet can be used to self-educate, unfortunately it can be used to make one stupider.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:08 PM
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I agree. RP men live in a parallel universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:03 PM
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No one actually did call this guy entitled, so why don't you use a better example? You brought an example that actually proved your title statement wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:02 PM
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I dread gamed my daughters. They have iPad priveleges, they can be taken away at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:57 PM
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The Dutch have no universal basic income for stay at home moms like I propose. The Dutch don't even pay for daycare, and why should they? They're not as progressive as you think. Generous social programs make it possible for a two-parent family to get by quite nicely on a single full-time income. And yet, a strain of social conservatism persists in Holland: daycare is expensive, and shops close at 6 p.m. on weekdays and are closed entirely on Sundays—less than conducive to the daily juggling of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:50 PM
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Do you dislike people just because they have different beliefs to you? Because I don't, despite that being what you're implying. Perhaps I'm not being clear as to when I mean you hypothetically. If you dislike women, you are misogynist. If you don't, but hold beliefs about them as a gender, then you'd be (upgraded?) to sexist. Just because I think a Christian or Muslim is less smart that I'd think they were if they weren't religious, doesn't mean I also downgrade how good of a person I think the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:23 PM
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You feel you do. Feelz. Get used to disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:13 PM
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Being a domestic suuuuucks for me - it's exhausting, I have no free time (mostly), I work much longer hours than I ever did when I was working full-time, I'm bored out of my skull, have no social life or even meaningful adult interactions 95% of the time, and I'm probably more stressed than I've ever been in my life. Exactly. Most men don't get this (espeically here, someone said something about being able to get everything done like a 9-5 job with a 30 min lunch break - a lunch break! hah!). Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:12 PM
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Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah no. Aformidablecontender just embarrassed himself with an entire thread not knowing the definnition of entitled means. Looks like you've got the same problem. feeling that you have a right to the good things in life without necessarily having to work for them Entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 04:58 PM
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The worst that TRP arguably does is make stereotypes or generalizations on women. My first impression was it was a bunch of sexists, misogynists, bigots, etc that need a scapegoat for their problems - it's not just generalizations about women - it's hateful generalizations about women. KKK style. But the more I came to talk with RPs here, the more I realized that it's much worse than the misogyny. No, the worst that TRP does is make its adherents stupider, and incapable of relating to women or h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 04:55 PM
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1:1, we're both engineers. Satisfaction: 7-8 TRP is ridiculous. I'm not BP either. We have an egalitarian relationship. If it weren't egalitarian, I wouldn't have married him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 04:44 PM
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Keep dreaming. Yes, you are entitled. http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/entitled feeling that you have a right to the good things in life without necessarily having to work for them You keep shooting yourself in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 04:41 PM
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Technology didn't allow women to be able to own property or vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 10:55 AM
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Nope. I'm saying that being tired decreases your sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 10:49 AM
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I said that disliking a group makes you misogynist. You're all over the place here. Yes, you thinking Christians are not as intellectual as you by virtue of them believing in a faith would be an - ist if their was a name for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 10:47 AM
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Either you don't know how to read or you're being dishonest. Adjective Believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment. Exactly. First the thread blew up in your face, then you didn't know how to interpret laws, now you don't know how to use definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 10:42 AM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 10:40 AM
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These guys have waaaaaay to much time on their hands to be stalking the posts of redditors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 10:39 AM
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Your story has red flags all over it. You had some kind of problem with your department. 1) that's not what title 9 means, that's not how you interpret it 2) many universities weren't interpreting title 9 correctly, but this is waaaaay out there- the school is putting their credibility on the line as a grantee of degrees and a source if prospective employees 3) your professor sounds highly unprofessional. highly. You didn't ask yourself why he was telling you these things? 4) your department sou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 10:21 AM
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Never saying no to sex has improved my marriage. I'm Experimenting with the captain/first mate dynamic- we'll see how it goes. Too early to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 10:05 AM
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Anyway, the problem with women in STEM is that there's a stigma that it's for guys - and that prevents many girls from going into those fields and falls off the radar for many when thinking of possible majors. The way that media and toys are marketed to boys and girls is abhorrent. The reason that we've gone backwards (it wasn't always this way) are two reasons- the realization that Disney princesses were a marketing gold mine, and the fact that if you make the same object "gendered", many peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:59 PM
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Well, I think I told you that I wasn't a feminist until I got pregnant with a girl, right? I never saw the point in being feminist. I had lived in a sexist country for several years, and it didn't phase me. The only place where I didn't see any sexism in that country was in the chemical engineering department. And how could anyone be sexist? The top achievers were usually women. (Perfectionism and anal retentiveness were more common with the women, I'm not saying they were smarter) and the depar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:06 PM
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I wasn't referring to you. I know you're not RP. What's RIT?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:35 PM
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They're a lot more common than uninformed RPs think. I've got a hell of a lot more to say on the subject though. Anything specific you want to start with?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:28 PM
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And your example doesn't prove that acceptance equals sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 09:58 PM
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You obviously don't know the definitions. When you play a semantics game, not knowing the meaning will cause that game to blow up in your face. Which it did. I suggest you open a dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 09:58 PM
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Petticoat isn't red pill. But yeah- when what they believe is that wacky, it's hard to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 08:19 PM
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even egalitarian relationships tend to have the women doing more. There's still some of that bias. Check out who is chilling out at 9 pm and who is tending to odds and ends around the house. It's exhausting. But I do believe it is getting better, surveys reflect this. Change takes time. I've got no complaints about my husband in this regard. That being said, I agree that an equitable work balance won't work for everyone, but it will improve things for many, and RP men don't want to hear it becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 08:16 PM
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Nope. I'm saying you (you're making yourself an example) are not entitled to have sex with me and that you are acting entitled. I'm also saying you don't understand how dictionaries work. You quoted only the definitions which allow you to play a semantics game. OBVIOUSLY the word "entitled" has more uses than that. Like many words in the English language. You chose not to quote other uses, either because you are ignorant, lazy or dishonest. I don't know which one it is and I don't really care. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 07:54 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 07:51 PM
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I think petticoat was joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 06:29 PM
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And here is a depiction of red pillers and their biotrooooofs. http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1174 (They're the grandma in the tin foil hat)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 04:59 PM
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Here's one he did on movie science. http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1391
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 04:58 PM
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"If" would be the key word here. Also, you don't know how definitions work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 04:31 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 04:29 PM
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Are you familiar with PhDComics? If not, you should be! http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1156
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 04:11 PM
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Myth busters is not as good a source as a peer reviewed study. Here, enjoy this joke: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1156
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 04:11 PM
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Married mid 30's 2 girls Chemical engineer Feminist Currently reading Neverwhere. Haven't seen the BBC miniseries yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:59 PM
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I think you forgot to mention "masturbation widowhood" but other than that not bad at all!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:46 PM
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Nope. Acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:17 PM
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Nope. And ew. Entitled douchebag wants sex. Gag.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:17 PM
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Aside from your rant, which is neither here nor there, you're arguing that acceptance means sex. And I'm pointing out that's a ridiculous thing to say. When feminists say acceptance, they don't mean "Have sex with". Nobody says that. It's an absolutely ridiculous way to interpret it. Non-feminine women don't want to be the butt of jokes or shamed. Non-masculine men don't want to be the butt of jokes or shamed. You want sex? Good for you. I want a million dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:15 PM
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Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:04 PM
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Yup. Pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:04 PM
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Yeah. We're all working. The workday begins and ends. Parenting is being on call 24/7. Completely different. Much More demanding. You don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 01:56 PM
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Everyone is different of course. But on average, women are putting in more hours for domestic duties- that's not a 9-5 job with a defined beginning and end. When couples are tired, they have sex less. When they are not, they have sex more. There's not much to argue with there. Men on average could still have higher sex drives, I'm not saying that's not the case. What I'm saying is the situations are not equal, and the women are on the clock more. Fortunately, younger people want a more egalitari…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 01:47 PM
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Except that when you state that women should have sex with you, that is called being entitled. What a cliche this is. This thread didn't work out so well for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 01:42 PM
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Nope. http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2sudg7/a_modest_proposition_to_attenuate_the_sufferings/cnx5hc9
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 01:40 PM
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What in the world was that rant about? This is a nonsensical argument and I can't believe you're doubling down. MAybe I gave you too much credit. Acceptance does not equal sex. You don't want women as an example? How about fathers. Who are men. Fathers do not express the acceptance of their daughters by sleeping with them. Brothers do not express acceptance of their sisters by sleeping with them. Men do not express acceptance of their friends by sleeping them. And RP men, who sleep around with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 01:40 PM
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Sorry bud. You're not entitled to sex. You want it? Go pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:57 PM
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so they can go on their own. Problem solved. They need sex? They can pay for it. They want it for free? They'll have to find a willing partner. Sorry, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 05:41 PM
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You must be joking. RPs have sex all the time with sluts. They certainly don't accept them. I accept my friends, I don't have sex with them. I accept my children and family, I don't have sex with them. You went off into the deep end here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 05:40 PM
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Of the prostitute. Not the customer. And we're back where we started. If you're so scared of the wording. Then just don't pay. Nothing is stopping the incrls you're so concerned about from paying their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 04:35 PM
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She was the prostitute. Not the customer. In other words, the person being trafficked. This is a human trafficking law. I've never seen someone so willfully obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 04:32 PM
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If you really think so, then pay for the trip. The uncles can pay for the prostitute. How much are you contributing? I expect to see your concern matched with your wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 04:13 PM
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And you're wrong. Open your wallet since you care so much. Put your money where your mouth is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 03:12 PM
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Nope. Not when you're the customer- where it's legal and you're going of your own volition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 03:11 PM
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Then don't being a buddy. So how much are you donating? Don't be cheap!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 02:47 PM
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Since they care so much. This thread didn't turn out very well for the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 02:46 PM
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Lots of senseless shit is posted here. Why repeat it? Acceptance does not equal "have sex with". The premise is ridiculous. Acceptance at the very least means to not shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 02:45 PM
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Nope. You're the only one interpreting it that way. So how much are you donating?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 02:44 PM
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No you're not. They're going of their own volition. So how much are you donating? Don't be cheap!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 02:43 PM
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The incels would be. They are alleviating their suffering. Of their own accord. They aren't being enticed at all. They NEED it. To end suffering. Boy this thread backfired on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 03:50 PM
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Exactly. No enticement needed because it's something the incels need anyway to alleviate their suffering. You're not enticing them. They are alleviating their suffering of their own accord. This way, you're only degrading incels with your proposition. And it's actually possible. This thread certainly backfired on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 03:47 PM
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You are great. I told you you're a feminist at heart. ;) I'll get to your other comments later.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:00 PM
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I've read the article a while ago. It's interesting. But your prerequisite is supplementing someone's income to do what is normally unpaid work. Where does that supplemental money come from? Taxes. "Hey John/Suzy, how would you like to work less hours for almost the same amount of money?" "Oh boy! Would I!" That's not free. And most humans (men too) would take that option if offered. The reason why you can't support a family on one income anymore is not because of women's consumerism (what?????)…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:51 PM
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You need the higher taxes to support that lifestyle. You don't get it without it. Everything has a cost. If men worked part time they'd also be a lot happier. I don't know a single person who wouldn't want to work part time if they had the financial means of doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:31 PM
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It's more than the manosphere that can't stand stay at home moms. Studies have shown that men with stay at home wives are more likely to have sexist views of women and take their female coworkers less seriously. Look at the GOP. Bunch of guys with wives taking care of everything at home- bunch of sexist douchebags. Men with wives like that rarely appreciate them because being a mom is still not respected in our society. Feminists are the only ones trying to change the national conversation so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:25 PM
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Yes, they have demonized stay at home moms. In the past. They also fought the mommy wars, and the feminists saying feminism means having the right to choose to be a mom. and be respected like any other profession won that war. Like, a decade ago. Your information is outdated. Feminism changed, you missed it. Feminists are the only ones trying to ensure that women aren't left poverty stricken after divorce, and don't have to stay in abusive relationships for lack of financial means. Feminists are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:07 PM
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What? That makes no sense at all. Come on fizolof. Surely you see how absolutely absurd that sentence is? Feminists say it's ok for men to not conform to restrictive ideals of masculinity, therefore, feminists have to have sex with everyone who doesn't conform? That's one of the stupider "a, therefore b" statements posited here on PPD, and that's saying a lot. You're better than that. This thread really backfired on the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 12:59 PM
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I agree with you on getting the foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 12:55 PM
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Try doing it. You'll understand why feminism caught on. Women are the ones pushing to get moms' work recognized and appreciated. Men pay lip service to "the hardest job in the world" while patronizing those they marry and devaluing their competency.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 12:54 PM
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Continuous growth is absolutely the monetary system we're on and we're staying on, with almost every economist in the world is supporting it. That's not true. It's a huge debate. HUGE. As it should be. There's a reason it's called "sustainable." Common sense tells you that women aren't going back now that they've tasted freedom - that's why you need to have family friendly policies. However - I (really, really) applaud your universal basic income approach. You are the first RP man that I've talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:38 AM
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An economic model based on continuous growth is not sustainable. The reason the population is aging is not only because of a declining birthrate, but because people are living longer. You need a sustainable system, not one based on continuous growth. Most economists know this, and every western style democracy is trying to make that switch. You can't make women have children they don't want to have. Feminism was no accident. Support family friendly policies if you want more kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:25 AM
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You do know that I've been with my husband for 15 years now and have two girls? That I have a full time job where I do have the knowledge and training to interpret scientific studies? I am absolutely passing my values down to my daughters and their generation. I do STEM outreach all the time. A female role model is really all you need. And I vote for politicians that encourage family friendly policies. You want people to reproduce? They you should too. Also - Japan is not feminist and lack of in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:19 AM
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Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:08 AM
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It's an inevitability. (wo)Man controls nature. Not the other way around. We're stripping the social construct away, and every country is doing it differently. I'm doing it locally, on a small scale. And oh my gosh does it work. RP men just aren't aware (or don't care) about the studies or the work that's been done. They stick their heads into the ground because they need to feel superior to women. They are reactionary, and they aren't able to swim against the tide.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:06 AM
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Not right now, no. Eventually, we'll find out. It takes time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:55 AM
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You're right. Neither can be proven because we're swimming in a social construct. But what I can see is that when you start removing the social construct, the differences disappear. And so I know we're heading in the right direction, and we'll get there eventually because... it's natural. And I'm doing my part to remove the social construct. And getting results.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:53 AM
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yes. That's exactly what the thesis says is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:51 AM
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No - completely different. It was excluding that the study was about both in order to make conclusions that would only be possible if it were only women making those reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:50 AM
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Here's more: Are Marriage Statistics Divorced from Reality? A new book takes aim at the notion that 50% of newlyweds are destined for Splitsville http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1989124,00.html Divorce Rate: It's Not as High as You Think http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/19/health/19divo.html This is why I say that RP men sound really uninformed about this issue. The laws, the stats, everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:48 AM
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Not at all. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1409232722000&bicmet=1419773522000&_r=4&abt=0002&abg=0 About 70 percent of marriages that began in the 1990s reached their 15th anniversary (excluding those in which a spouse died), up from about 65 percent of those that began in the 1970s and 1980s. Those who married in the 2000s are so far divorcing at even lower rates. If current…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:46 AM
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I see your edit - yes - you centered on womens' reactions even though the thesis discussed the reactions of men and women. Just like what people are doing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:38 AM
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No, you are making theories (not conclusions) based on the conclusions of other people's work - while misinterpreting the conclusions themselves and the reasoning behind them. You simply don't have the training or knowledge to do it properly. You are not validating your theories in order to make more conclusions, and you are not looking at contradicting results - which must also be true - and incorporate them. You would have to do all these things in order to advance understanding. Normally, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:34 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:20 AM
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lol. This is true. You are the scientific study king. Now - if I can just get you to realize the differences in the conclusions that you are making from the conclusions that the study makes, I'd be a happier woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:16 AM
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The study that I remember you bringing had to do with empathy, and you were confusing empathy with emotion. and the study wasn't gendered - and you were making conclusions about mens' and womens' brains when there was no delineation between the two - wasn't mentioned at all. Maybe we're thinking of two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:12 AM
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I predicted that people perceive an illusory negative association between men’s HS and BS attitudes because lay theories expect men to have univalent attitudes toward women. People. Women and men perceived low BS men as being HS. Did you make the mistake back then of thinking it was just women viewing men this way? I remember you took a brain study that wasn't discussing gender at all and tried to correlate it to something about womens' brains and mens' brains - you have to look at what is actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:09 AM
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I don't think it is, the OP is being purposely obtuse. The thread backfired on him. But the wording was twisted to "get" people. Not having anything to do with Nevada and happening elsewhere. Just going to a different state to commit adultery. They tried to clear up the wording so that those kinds of prosecutions couldn't be done anymore. The majority of the business in those Nevada counties comes from truckers. If it was illegal to come from out of state - they'd be easily caught, and they woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 05:11 AM
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I think the first reference is where the prosititution is illegal (the default status in the US) but voluntary. So, not applicable to those counties in Nevada. The second is to have the prosititute travel to you across state lines. So, not applicable to those counties in Nevada. I think we've got a legal solution for the suffering incels. Not so sure the suffering incels want this solution, but it should make OP happy. He should at the very least match the donations raised - since he cares so mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:54 AM
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Enticing customers? Even if that were true, and you are using the wording of a human trafficking law veeeeeeeeeeery liberally (you're putting in those parenthesis - not the law, no one else is interpreting it that way which is why you are wrong), then you simply don't entice them. You provide the funds. They take it if they want it. People go there all the time from out of state. Truckers are the majority of their business. It's legal. Quit dancing around it. Also, the Mann Act was indeed used t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:43 AM
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Gender neutral because prostitutes are both genders. People come from out of state to Nevada all the time. For that purpose. Because it's legal. Mainly truckers. The sex tour operators were not in Nevada. You going over there to pay for sex because you can't get it elsewhere is not illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:41 AM
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Yes. THE PROSTITUTE. Persuading, inducing, enticing, coercing a person to engage in prostitution. In other words - THE PROSTITUTE. Not the customer. You do know what human trafficking is, don't you? this is an anti-human trafficking law. Mann Act n. a federal statute making it a crime to transport a woman across state lines for "immoral" purposes. The Mann Act was intended to prevent the movement of prostitutes from one state to another or in and out of the country in the so-called "white slave"…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:24 AM
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You're wrong. Mann Act The Mann Act (18 U.S.C.A. § 2421 et seq.), also known as the White Slave Traffic Act, is a federal criminal statute that deals with prostitution and Child Pornography. Enacted in 1910 and named for its sponsor, Representative james r. mann, of Illinois, it also was used to prosecute men who took women across state lines for consensual sex. Representative Mann introduced the act in December 1909 at the request of Chicago prosecutors who claimed that girls and women were bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:21 AM
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no, wikipedia actually explains it. did I miss something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:16 AM
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No it doesn't. Transport of the PROSTITUTE across state lines. Not the CUSTOMER. It's against HUMAN TRAFFICKING. Get your collection box ready. You want to help incels. How much are you donating?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:10 AM
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No, transport of the prostitute. Not the customer. Sex trafficking. Age of consent, yes that I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:07 AM
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OK MANOSPHERE. Time to put your money where your mouth is. Start walking the walk and quit whining about feminists. Get your collection boxes ready. I expect to see TRP, a voice for men, Roosh, dal rock, he artiste et al, in an effort helmed by this particular whiner/blogger with paypal buttons for the manosphere to donate money for weekends in Nevada so the incels can have weekly visits with prostitutes to ease their suffering. In addition to helping your fellow man, you'd be supporting small b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:02 AM
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Right. Of the prostitutes. Not the customers. It was used to prosecute interracial couples, adulterers, pedophiles, Mormons, gays, you get the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:01 AM
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How? You're not transporting women for prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 03:44 AM
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You can solve a lot of problems if people just acted the way you wanted them to. Now be realistic. My solution is: the manosphere, that cares so much about these guys, pays for a weekend in Nevada where prostitution is legal, for every single one of these poor suffering guys, and pays for the prostitutes. Problem solved. Start up your collection box. I'm sure all those manosphere sites will be happy to pitch in. Get to it! Chop chop! Incel weekends in Nevada! The sex industry will thank you, mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 03:29 AM
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Baloney. Send the blogger to the Bog of Eternal Stench.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 03:16 AM
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Mazal tov! Having kids will change you. Come back in 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 03:10 AM
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There's a joke- husband is dissatisfied with the amount of sex. Wife says she's tired all the time after cleaning up after dinner and putting the kids to bed. Husband says he'll clean up after dinner and put the kids to bed. He does. Wife wants sex. Husband is too tired. Bah dum. rimshot It's possible that, all things being equal, husbands want sex more than wives. However, all things are still not equal. I am saying this even though my husband wants sex more frequently than me, and I would say …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:51 AM
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But is it PEER REVIEWED?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:42 AM
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For a LTR? No. It will get your foot in the door, it won't stop you from crashing and burning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:28 AM
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His impression. He's not objective, he sounds like a terrible therapist (for marriage anyway) because success rates are higher, and his divorce stats are way off. RP men delude themselves about marriage. I swear none of them read the news. Not a one. Which is fine, they'd make terrible husbands. Better they keep playing the field with women that don't value them any more than they value those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:24 AM
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Not a person. A group. That you don't know or understand. Judge the person all you want. As they are free to judge you. But you decide you don't like an entire portion of humanity without knowing anything about them? Yeah, you're a racist/ misogynist/homophobe/whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:17 AM
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Red pill not knowing how to use the stats they cite. I'm shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:35 AM
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No. It describes a phenomena. That's the word we use. There are plenty of ridiculous and counter-intuitive words in the English language. Being non-PC doesn't get rid of the dislike people feel for entire groups that aren't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 06:28 PM
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Like I keep saying after you complain, you don't have to talk with me. There are other people here. I don't see much point in initiating conversations with you. I see no value in your posts, And so I don't initiate with you. You don't see value in my replies, then talk with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 03:07 PM
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On PPD. I said "here." "Here" meaning PPD. I know it's not a physical place but "here" would refer to this sub, especially after I said "here on PPD" I wouldn't think the subject was the entire manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 03:04 PM
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No data on women? "Getting nothing" when you're not taking LTRs into account? Men that don't want to hook up? No data on women? Also, what is "the top"? These men are not "the top" in my book. But maybe Dalrock has the hots for these guys. This doesn't prove hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 03:00 PM
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And because cliff diving changes your brain, sex only changes women's brains and by change you actually mean makes them incapable of marriage. Just like cliff diving.... Or not. That analogy doesn't work at all and you don't have science backing up the ridiculous things you believe, despite your claims to the contrary. That's why you guys seem like scientologists sometimes. The stuff you believe is so weird. Like, conspiracy theorist weird. I mean, you're not just wrong, you're off the deep end.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:52 PM
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Your bar is pretty low. But I would agree. It's easy to find advice for fulfilling relationships. Difficult to find good advice. I don't think TRP is any different in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:47 PM
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Ah. I'm Not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:45 PM
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He wanted to know what feminists think. It's not my reaction as a feminist, it's what I think, and I am a feminist. That's what the OP wanted to know. If you look at other replies from feminists, they simply ask- what does this have to do with feminism. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:31 PM
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No, dislike doesn't equal hatred. Islamophobe is the term for those that don't like Muslims, even though it has the word "phobia" in it. Muslim-ist just never caught on. Just like anti-Semitic is the term for those that don't like Jews, but Arabs are also a Semitic people. Homophobe- the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:29 PM
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Maybe you should look at the women that are staying with average guys to determine what the common denominator is. Divorces have been on the decline since the 80's, and people stayed married even when divorce was at it's peak. I'm not sure why you think people don't stay together. Since alphas don't marry, Just who are all these happily married couples then? If you don't believe the numerous financial stats about divorcees, then it isn't possible to discuss it. I always wondered where all the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:26 PM
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I believe it!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:20 PM
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No, that's called a misanthrope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:19 PM
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Well, you still have your period. Use it wisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:03 AM
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Have you been pregnant yet? It gets worse. You can kill plants and most invertebrates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:34 AM
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Excuse me? I'll have you know that period farts and pregnancy farts can cause anyone within a 20 foot radius to pass out from the noxious fumes, hopefully without choking on their own vomit in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:22 AM
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Left to their own devices, men will also pursue the top women. They get stonewalled by those top people having an opinion and not wanting them. Or they do get lucky and get those top people. What of it? That's life. At the end of the day, if marriage isn't a net gain for someone (and sometimes it takes years to figure out if it is or isn't) then people won't get/stay married. If you want people to stay married, you have to incentivize it. Despite the complaints of the manosphere, divorced women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:15 AM
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Ah. You've got way too much time in your hands. But I will say, I was not expecting that story in any way, shape or form! A+ for creativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:07 AM
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No, that's not it at all. If someone does not like women, they are misogynist. Does. not. like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:06 AM
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But see, what you want goes against human nature. And if you force people to be together, they'll be miserable. I know you're very anti-feminist but the success of feminism was no accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 12:22 AM
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Well, my question was rhetorical because I'm 35 and have been with my husband for 15 years now. I have a husband I love, an active family life, and a career I love in a field where the ROI is high when considering the cost of education. The career would not have been possible with a husband that was not willing to pull his weight with domestic and kid raising duties. (You're right, raising a family is very time consuming- best to marry someone who doesn't mind getting his hands dirty, not someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 11:21 PM
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You're really the only one that doesn't get it here. And somehow I don't think it's really worth my time trying to explain a simple sentence that you're trying to obfuscate. Such a negative reaction to an offer to help!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:50 PM
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In this case, it wouldn't be racism since "Muslim" is not a race. It's called islamophobia . Much like those that dislike Jews are not called racists, but are called anti-Semites. It's easy to discriminate against a lot of things. People aren't racist against blacks because of their skin color , they're racist because of behaviors that they associate with black people. People have control over their behaviors. They fail to recognize that black people are human, and have a full range of behaviors…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:48 PM
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Hah! Virtual fist bump.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:40 PM
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Huh? I'm sorry, I didn't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:40 PM
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Well, what are your theories? Adding the "snicker snicker" means you think you know... er... Something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:39 PM
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No, it's pretty narrow. You don't like women, you're misogynist. There's plenty of RPs here that don't have difficulty with the concept. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:38 PM
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Psh. My SMV is at it's peak now and I'm 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 06:19 PM
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He's pretty famous it the world of TRP. But the ideas he's stating- this is the backbone of TRP. I'm glad you think it's drivel, that's wonderful. I'm not asking you to defend what you don't believe in. I'm just saying - this is the RP community. These are the prevalent attitudes towards women. You're deluding yourself if you think it isn't. "1 in 90,000" As to sexual strategy- the idea is to knock women off the pedestal. So they do that so much that they start to despise them. They also need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 06:09 PM
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I want to have a husband I love, an involved family life, and a career I enjoy. To achieve these objectives, feminism is incredibly helpful. What would your RP advice be for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 06:03 PM
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Here's the thing. Once upon a time, everyone got married. It was the thing to do. If you didn't, you were an outcast and a burden on your family. Same if you got divorced. Now? You don't have to get married anymore. It's becoming more and more acceptable to not get married, not have kids. And to get divorced. Marriage is difficult, it's unnatural, and requires that you put someone else's needs ahead of your own quite often. People generally don't enjoy doing that. You don't need to reform marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 05:57 PM
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Racists abound with reasons as to why they don't like a particular race/culture/religion/sexual orientation- it's not because of what the group can't control, obviously, it's how they act. Which is a choice. You're not saying anything new or different. It's a very common rationalization. They've all got reasons, probably a friend or two who "isn't like the others". I mean, it's pretty simple. You don't like black people? Yeah, you're racist. You don't like women? You're misogynist. The reasoning…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 05:12 PM
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If people don't like women, they're misogynist. You don't like a particular race? You're racist. You don't like Jews? Anti-Semitic. Muslims? An islamophobe. Gays? A homophobe. It's pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 03:57 PM
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Yes I agree. It really drew a line in the sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 03:43 PM
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She's stating why RPW have no interest in plate spinning RP men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 02:51 PM
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A PC misogynist is still a misogynist. It's the content, not the tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 02:27 PM
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They provoke it. In other words, he is not responsible for his behavior. For Pete's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:45 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2gsl2k/what_do_red_pill_women_think_of_these_trp/ We had a discussion about this. It was an endorsed contributor (I'm assuming RP works for him) got a positive reply from the mods (assuming RP works for them) loads of Upvotes, and plenty of RP men on PPD weighed in on it. http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2gqt8l/what_ive_learned_from_the_women_in_my_family/cklqpii Look, you don't have to agree with the misogyny. It's great that you don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:30 PM
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Nope. You had to take half sentences out of context to give them entirely new meanings. So of course you're going to be way off the mark. I've never seen someone on reddit expend so much negative energy on an offer to help someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:06 PM
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I don't know if they sub or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:26 AM
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Hells if I know. I'm sure they have an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:17 AM
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Lol. Good eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 12:57 AM
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Unless they don't find help or solutions and leave because they don't identify with the content.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 12:53 AM
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No, teenagers are an entirely different species. I'm terrified of the day my daughters turn 14. Absolutely terrified. They're not human, I tell you! NOT HUMAN!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 12:44 AM
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No, not what I said at all, and not what I was thinking. Interesting that that's how you're interpreting it though. Very interesting. Want to try again? You're still waaaaaaay off. Hey Aerobus, yoo hoo! where are you now that I have people putting words in my mouth? Care to weigh in?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 12:31 AM
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I'm talking about entire industries. Pennsylvania has ghost towns that didn't survive the steel and coal industries going elsewhere. Michigan didn't survive the car industry going elsewhere. Massachusetts struggled with the textile industry relocating but is bouncing back. There are many other examples. Those three just came to me now. Manufacturing used to be done in the states, but now is only something that's done here if it's a niche, highly specialized product or if the company wants to con…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 12:28 AM
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I like Mark Twain, but you can disagree with the majority intelligently. And not turn to conspiracy theorists. Also, if those talking about wages aren't even addressing foreign competition and manufacturing of nearly everything being done elsewhere - they're not being honest. How do you think the influx of those that used to be in manufacturing jobs to other markets impacted the wages of others ? The US is not the best in everything anymore. How does it affect wages if another country does a cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:46 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2rjnaf/cmv_trp_mods_and_rpw_mods_have_every_right_to_ban/cnh69rq THEY SUCK. (And I so want to go back there!)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:19 PM
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Didn't anyone watch Mad Max? Or the Road? GAWD.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:14 PM
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Perfect. So succint!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:06 PM
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Actually - that ranking, it's both outcome based and dependent on the feelings of the giver of tzedaka towards the good deed. Being altruistic is deemed "higher". however, a good deed done for selfish reasons is still a good deed. I don't know much about Christianity's view towards this. and there are so many different types anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:04 PM
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I told you - I will make a feminist out of you. But seriously, when women started coming back, they didn't all go for the same jobs as men. Some jobs would have had male and female applicants, yes, and some didn't. And yet most wages stagnated with the economy. What that means, is that there are more important factors that these yahoos in the manosphere are ignoring. I mean, if most of the thinking world doesn't agree with you (hypothetical you) and you live in a country where there is mostly fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:02 PM
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No, the workforce did not double. Women always worked, most couldn't afford not to. Some stayed in the home post-WWII, and then they started coming back. There was no "doubling" there was a decrease in participation, and then an increase again. Families couldn't afford for an able-bodied person to not work. That's why children worked. This: Yup, second wavers did to middle class what happened to working class during first wave's time. was the claim that I was arguing. This is the manosphere's ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:38 PM
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But it's silly to deny that slowly doubling the size of the workforce This never happened. The manosphere take on this is way over the top, and they don't want to look at the importance of... everything else that was happening in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:19 PM
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no, it's not close at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:07 PM
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Reason is difficult to come by when someone believes that the mere act of sex changes a woman's brain such that she is made more incapable of pair bonding, or of marriage. I mean, some ACTUALLY believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:05 PM
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An o for every notch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:01 PM
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No, not a meteorologist. TRP doesn't do science very well (at all, really). I'm not naming anyone. You're welcome to search for the thread I mentioned. You'll just have to content yourself with calling bullshit. That's how you miss things that others don't, despite your "credentials". LTR tags don't prevent people from voicing their opinions. And we can all read those opinions. Especially those that are in LTRs asking those questions. That's why they leave. Unhelpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:57 PM
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Ah, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:54 PM
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I never claimed to know everyone's rationale. I'm telling you what I've seen, and you're denying it. I mean, what? Am I lying to you? It just didn't happen? There's quite a few here and at RPW that say that they can't have a serious conversation about LTRs. So many came that they started to take down the posts - and they direct them right back to TRP. Not sure how helpful that's been. However, some still go to participate, not to ask for advice. Someone here, self-identified RP, said he couldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:50 PM
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That's not the reason they give. Try talking to the RPs here on PPD. I do. Like I said - you don't understand. So you don't know, despite your "credentials."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:39 PM
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Obviously you don't. If you don't understand why certain self-identified RPs are leaving and have no use for the sub anymore. Like I said, everyone can see the dirty laundry. Experience isn't worth much if you're not learning from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:35 PM
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It really is. That's why those interested in LTRs don't find much use for it. There are quite a few RPs here that have outgrown the sub or have no use for it, went elsewhere. It's really for guys that want tricks to have a superficial encounter and then laugh about those they have the encounter with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:22 PM
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I got banned from r/askfeminists and r/feminism a few times. I gave up trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:20 PM
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And so the majority of it is spent on plate spinning. Which is exactly what I said. TRP advocates spinning plates because it is the more sensible option, but nowhere do we discourage LTR's. Sounds like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:15 PM
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Yes, I know. You think that major national and international events are irrelevant. So does Voxday. This is how conspiracy theorists operate. They focus in one thing, to the exclusion of all others. They can't understand how the rest of the world impacts their reality becuase their pet cause CONTROLS ALL. I did bother to read. You (and Voxiebaby) are ignoring major national and international events.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:14 PM
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awww. my sister is in the same boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:11 PM
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Heh. You should call him that ALL THE TIME.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:11 PM
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It's interesting you bring this up. In Judaism, maybe you remember, there are different levels of giving tzedakah. The highest level is giving such that the person becomes independent. The lowest is to give, but to do so begrudgingly. There's all different qualifiers in between. Anyway, my point is, like in Judaism, It's still a good deed, no matter the motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:09 PM
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Sorry! Let me describe in detail. So vox takes a paragraph out of context from authors quoting a study they didn't perform that appear to not be looking at the major national and international events and how they impacted the US economy. I wonder why he's considered a conspiracy theorist. So voxday is your source material? Well, there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:52 PM
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Nasser shutting down the Suez Canal in 1967 and the Arab nations starting the oil embargo in 1973 had no impact on that in the 70's? And wages stagnating wasn't a driver of women entering the workforce? For Pete's sake. Voxday is your source material? Well there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:38 PM
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I can't disagree with any of that. Also, happy Friday!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:30 PM
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I read that because he said he doesn't take TRP seriously. Whatever. The mods changed their minds. So that's good. I'm not going to complain about every decision they make, it's a thankless job. I'm glad he's back though. I think a lot is tolerated on the sub, banning really should be a last resort. Then again, I don't have to deal with the crap they deal with, I don't have to keep order or figure out how to hold this sub to a standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:28 PM
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There is no affirmative action for women. There are no quotas for women. Small businesses are not facing discrimination lawsuits for not meeting quotas that don't even exist. Google offering 5 months maternity leave is an outlier because there is no mandatory maternity leave in the US. It's in the news because it's so damn rare. Why would you expect this to be the norm when even our federal government is still struggling with the idea, period? Let alone 5 months? You offer an article about a uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:19 PM
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Is that what I said? Quotes are to be used when there's an actual quote in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:16 PM
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I really think most of them just didn't pay attention in highschool American history class. And now they're filling the gap with conspiracy theories. So many things are just common knowledge. Or at least, they should be. You'd think they could at least keep up to date with current events. Maybe because a lot of them are still young. I think younger people on average don't read the news as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:15 PM
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Foreign competition. Vietnam. Oil embargo. Cold War. International and national events and you want to blame a subset if women going back out into the workforce that they had been in previously in anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:08 PM
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That's a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:54 PM
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So does tempest. Happywifelife, I think phantom does but can't be sure. Many of the participants do. Many make more than their husband/SO. We associate finances with being the "head" but it doesn't have to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:49 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:47 PM
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Nope. Outsourcing, importing things we used to export, and foreign competition. The US lost it's edge a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:47 PM
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Many of the mods are working. RPWs are not all SAHMs. They like the captain/FO dynamic. That doesn't mean they don't have a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:42 PM
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Most of TRP is about plate spinning. Most of the participants are terrible people. Most enjoy imagining that they are hurting the very women they are chasing. I know that there are some RP men in LTRs. What of it? Lots of people are in LTRs and lots of people are married. Do you want a cookie? Most of TRP is about plate spinning. So much so that those in LTRs go to the RPW sub because they don't like the atmosphere at TRP. You guys hang your dirty laundry out for everyone to see and don't like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:38 PM
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I think that their self-improvement is excellent advice for those in a marriage, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:30 PM
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Are you unbanned now? Good!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:28 PM
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I'm giving you an upvote for gratuitous use of o's in sloooooot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:23 PM
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I'm talking about TRP and those that participate. I don't know anything about your relationships. TRP does not advocate helping people, and the participants derive happiness from hurting others, or imagining that they are doing so. If that's your "thing," then of course you would think it's a good resource. It's excellent at achieving superficial encounters with women that they despise. Plate spinning. That's about it. Superficial tricks for Superficial encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:20 PM
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They're looking for a good man that values commitment. Does that sound like the guys on TRP? Would the guys on TRP make a good captain? RPW and TRP are completely different entities. RPW actually do strive for self-improvement. By and large, They're not with RP men. They're with good men. And the captain\FO dynamic works well for their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:11 PM
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Also income- so you'd think they would advocate their wife having a good career to increase the income. Few jobs pull in a six figure salary early on. Two good jobs can just about make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:05 PM
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Also slooooooots.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:49 PM
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Relationships? No. Superficial encounters with women you despise? Yes. You like helping people? No you don't. Women are a subset of people. So are children. So are the elderly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:47 PM
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Someone told me once that a woman having sex with other guys before marriage was not preparing herself for marriage and family life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:44 PM
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I think we should start spelling biotroofs with multiple o's. Biotroooooooofs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:40 PM
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My friend moved jobs/cities because she wasn't able to meet anyone. It worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:37 PM
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Which is why I said that it's a moot point. he wanted to know what my reaction would be, as a feminist. That was my reaction, as a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:35 PM
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Yeah- the MGTOW might have set off alarms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:28 PM
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It's up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:28 PM
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I can't see the post, it's deleted. Try askwomen or twox if you want more reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:27 PM
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Like I said, there's much distance between trying to please everyone and deriving your happiness from trying to hurt people. Life isn't a choice between being a doormat and a terrible person. Most people manage it. TRP is off in the deep end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:26 PM
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If you want more reactions from feminists, you could try the askwomen or twox sub. They'll probably leave it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:22 PM
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Of course to you. A terrible person isn't likely to admit to being so. All that effort and to come out worse off? Of course you wouldn't think that. I wouldn't expect you too. People actually do manage to not exist to serve others without being terrible. Most people do. There's a lot of room between being a doormat and being a narcissist who enjoys hurting others. TRP? Off in the deep end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:18 PM
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Me as well. I wonder if the post was the same. I've seen much worse and more controversial than this being left up. They're much harder on feminists than those that come in asking questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:15 PM
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No. To your particular case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:05 PM
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You want a relationship. You're having trouble getting one. If I could help, I would want to. I like helping people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:04 PM
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I'm a feminist. And my gut reaction is to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:58 PM
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If I knew you I would probably be trying to hook you up with someone I knew, but since you're eschewing the dating scene that wouldn't be so helpful, would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:49 PM
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I once started a thread here about what RP men had to offer their future wives. They had this laundry list of qualities of what the ideal wife would be, so I was curious as to what they thought they would offer this perfect ideal wife, should they meet her. It was under a past account so I don't know if I could find it, but the answers were interesting. Most hadn't thought about it and really had trouble answering, like, I had to hound some people to get an answer, despite them obsessing about w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:41 PM
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No, that was the original argument. there's no self-improvement to be had. With all that's going on, you're at a net loss. You are coming out of TRP a worse person than before you went in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:32 PM
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If I get the vibe that someone is interested in me, I work my husband/kids into the conversation. If she is taken, she 'll tell you. It's the easiest answer for when someone doesn't want to be hit on, but doesn't feel comfortable telling someone else to back off. I would proceed assuming she was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:18 PM
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Where in the world do you get this stuff? The US does not have paid maternity leave at all. We're the only industrialized nation that doesn't. Really primitive that way. Google is trying to attract employees through better benefits. Lots of companies do that. Also, I have not heard of small companies pressured to hire women. Have you? Are there quotas? Is there affirmative action? No. There isn't. Where in the world are you getting this stuff from?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:11 PM
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What few key differences? What trend? How much are they a product of society? There is no science to back up what you're saying. Masculine and feminine associations are social. You can see the differences between genders disappearing as our society becomes more egalitarian. Indeed, this is a complaint of the manosphere. Men aren't men anymore and women aren't women. Because the associated behavior is not biological. It's social. When people are less limited, and have more options, they exercise …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:05 PM
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What's the connection to happiness? Terrible people can't be happy? Some people punt kick a yapping dog down the street and it makes them happy. Some people read stories of women unable to find partners when they are older and it makes them happy. Some people enjoy shaming others. Some people are happy when they think they are screwing someone else over. Some people are absolutely giddy at the thought of pumping and dumping someone, because they are happy to have used and defiled them, they thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:01 PM
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No. Misogynist is different from anti-feminist. As I said, there are a few here on PPD that are anti-feminist, but not misogynist. The sites we are discussing are both. Women can also be misogynist, (take a look at RPW), just like you can have self-hating Jews, Muslims, blacks, etc. there's no contradiction. The problem with anti-feminists and MRAs is that they are being led by a bunch of misogynists and It's a focal point for them. The important issues aren't going to be addressed any time soon…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:56 PM
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Yup. I don't see any responses on this sub indicating that people believe it. Does anyone here believe it? I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:45 PM
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FIf the message is misogynist, the language you deliver it in won't matter much. It's still misogynist. Anti-feminist does not equal misogynist, Price is both. So is AVFM. We've got some anti-feminists on PPD that aren't misogynist. It's certainly possible. Those representing the movement are ruining it for you though. Bad PR.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 09:34 PM
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Both sites, posters and commenters seem pretty bad to me. The posters also take part in the comments. Although the commenters are worse, obviously. Price doesn't use inflammatory language like they do at AVFM, but his ideas are pretty horrible. He would be the PC version of misogyny. Offensive ideas with non-offensive terminology. I've spent enough time going through their sites, I don't need a feminist website data mining from 6 years ago. They're pretty bad, period. It doesn't take much search…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 08:31 PM
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I imagine it more as Luke whining about wanting to go to the Toshi station to pick up some power converters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 06:01 PM
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Not at all. Where do you get this stuff from?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:13 PM
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Women are outliers? I knew I was special!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 04:42 PM
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I agree with this. And I'm glad you found someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 04:33 PM
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Ok, then we're not disagreeing. That's refreshing! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:18 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:00 PM
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Of course you could. Very few people know how to interpret scientific studies. However, it's the RP community that is trying to prove crackpot theories. If they weren't so emotionally invested in proving TRP, they might see that they don't have anything scientific to support their views. But they're desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 01:29 PM
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That would cause financial stress. Stress is bad on marriages, no matter the form. Financial is one of them. That's why lower income divorce more. So again, it's not the expensive wedding that causes divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 01:11 PM
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Haha. You get an upvote for making me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 01:10 PM
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Except when "the whole research" shows there are more differences within genders than between genders. RP guys don't have a good grasp on how research is done, how it's interpreted, or even what the definitions of the words they use are. Everytime an RP cites a study, there's no proof in the study for the wacky beliefs. Despite them insisting so. Every. Single. Time. You guys don't understand science. "The whole research" - what does that mean even?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 01:09 PM
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When I look at the AVFM site, or the spearhead, I see a bunch of misogyny. I haven't looked at the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 10:42 AM
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Having an expensive wedding does not increase your chances for divorce. The personalities associated with those that have expensive weddings increases your chance for divorce. You said yourself correlation is not causation. Now apply it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 10:39 AM
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No, they aren't. Your genitalia is biological. Your behavior is social. The associated behaviors are social, not biological- that's what RPs are trying to convince themselves of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 10:36 AM
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Ooh! Allan Quartermain!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:32 AM
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Does anyone here actually believe the 1:1 pairing fairy tale? I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:29 AM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:07 AM
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Physically stronger, but a terrible human being. You set your own priorities. It's possible to lift weights without becoming a bad person. Most people manage to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:02 AM
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Nope. No sentimentality. It's reiterating verbiage directly from the horse's mouth, including yours. I do pity them, yes. But on the other hand, they're digging their own grave. If RPs chip away at women's humanity, and then find themselves unable to love them as a consequence, it's a problem of their own creation. They wouldn't know a unicorn if she was tap dancing in front of them. How I feel about it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, that's their reality. I don't have a Disney version of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:48 PM
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And old RP members. And mods. And endorsed contributors. Not just newbies. You're not improving yourself, you're making yourself a worse person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:13 PM
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What sentimentality? I'm only reiterating what RPs have expressed themselves, including yourself. We're not disagreeing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:03 PM
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some women, sure. I think your post is full of false constructs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 09:19 PM
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On PPD. Where RP participants can start threads too. RP men don't think it's important. They devalue it at the same time that they render themselves incapable of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 08:47 PM
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For much of human history It used to be pragmatic, and love was a luxury. That approach has been going out of style as young people have more agency
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 08:30 PM
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Inertia and complacency.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 07:56 PM
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Of course it's a thing. Arranged marriages are also a thing. However, the typical answer is certainly not what you state. Not in the west anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 07:54 PM
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That's how I found my husband. No hate for MRAs. but they sure do have a lot of misguided hate for women and feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 07:54 PM
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No more advisable than it is for women to trust men right now, or for people to trust people right now. Choosing a life partner isn't easy. It doesn't require that you trust an entire gender as a whole, it requires that you find someone (one person) good enough to trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 07:52 PM
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Of course not. How are TRPs and MRAs going to help you find a good woman when they tell you they're all shit? She'll be right in front of you and you'll miss her. AWALT. They don't help you find the good in people. They help you find the bad in people. And exaggerate it. And dismiss the good. How can you possibly expect to find someone that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 06:22 PM
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I'm sorry you feel that way. I can't imagine what my relationship would be like with my husband if we didn't love each other. Love can grow and mature. You also need to work at it and be compatible- love isn't enough, I agree. But I have no idea why you'd want to be in a LTR, let alone be married to, someone you didn't love. It's why I feel sorry for RP men. But it's a problem that fixes itself. Improve yourself until you're incapable of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:45 PM
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Gender is biological. Your definitions as to what is feminine and masculine are social. Same with race. Equality and fairness are social.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:06 PM
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Love. A topic hardly ever discussed here. If you don't want a superficial connection, then don't go to places with people that are primarily looking for superficial connections. And don't use superficial tricks designed to get a superficial response.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:01 PM
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I read roots. Ive seen the knick. I've heard of dear white people but haven't seen. I'll check it out. I haven't read the invisible man, I have native son though, somewhere around here. Same author? Haven't heard of blackish. Will look at all your suggestions. And bug you for more via PM later!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 03:15 PM
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So- I'm very interested in the day to day life of black people during that time period and afterwards. I'm familiar with big events, but in mad men in season 6, they touch on the subtleties of being African American in a world where whites are forced to integrate them. I'm very familiar with the struggle of women, not so much with the struggle of blacks outside of famous people and events. Do you have any books/movies/shows that you feel captures what it is/was like to be black in a world that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 02:14 PM
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19 was a tough year for me. Then 25. Then 33. My metabolism dropped in those years - gained some, and then had to work like hell to lose it. Sometimes I think even looking at food makes my butt larger. There's no buffer zone anymore. And it's just going to get worse...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:01 AM
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Here's a question. If you're arguing with a feminist about what feminism is or what feminists believe, and said feminist tells you that you are wrong and that you believe misconceptions about feminism, and this happens often, why don't you consider the beliefs of said feminists about what it is? The no true Scotsman complaint is heard often. But if you always hear a retort that your idea of feminism isn't representative, by said feminists, why isn't that legitimate to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 02:44 AM
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I looked for members of the tribe 'yo. Could care less about race.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 02:35 AM
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I think they take reality TV as actual reality. Btw- do you watch mad men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 02:32 AM
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Yes. There is only woman leeching off man, or man leeching off woman. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE! Sometimes I think these guys just haven't seen the light of day. Where do they come up with this stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 12:20 AM
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This post made me chuckle. The quoted reply even more so. I'll go back to my video gaming homogamous husband now. Hee hee.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 11:07 PM
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That's exactly what it is. I had to do some seat dancing in my cubicle at the memory. I saw them live back in college. They played in our auditorium. We were only 200 people there, all crammed towards the front. Back half was empty. Everyone dancing. So. Much. Fun. I need to introduce my daughters. So many good songs!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 10:57 PM
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQrKZcYtqg
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 07:05 PM
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Anyone not RP. They're actually capable of emotional intimacy with the people they're with and forming and sustaining healthy relationships. A lot of women are making a good life for themselves by first having fun and then settling down. Divorce rates aren't that high you know. They've been decreasing since the 80's, despite more liberal attitudes towards sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 05:07 PM
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Seconded.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 05:00 PM
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Home cooked food. Balanced meals. Exercise. That's what we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 02:00 PM
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Things change. Saying it's because of less children being born is an extremely narrow way of looking at things, and not accurate either. My grandmother retired at 65. She's now 87. That's 22 years of collecting social security and using Medicare. She's healthy (thank god) and will hopefully live much longer. It will get to the point when people are collecting for more years than they've worked, or a good fraction of it. Due to medical advances, we can care for our aging population much better an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:52 PM
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Depends on who you're talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 10:10 PM
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I think of it as random "girl talk". Not something that is being pushed by feminists, or something that is directly said to men - although it could be. It doesn't really matter how you feel. The useage has changed. Viewpoints on casual sex have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:48 PM
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No. The cheating was going to happen anyway. The cause is relationship problems. Not an attractive person. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201209/the-eight-reasons-people-cheat-their-partners
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:40 PM
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Hypergamous does not equal a wandering eye. If it did, all men would be hypergamous, and it wouldn't be tied to the time of the month. If you mean infidelity - same thing. There is no evidence for your assertion, or the scientists' assertion about infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:32 PM
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I meant - as a moderator, you will have to side with someone (rule-breaking wise) whose viewpoint you disagree with. Like an umpire. You have a home team, but you still have to call the foul against them. Does it make you more understanding of the other side? It's probably not as relevant at RPW since it's not a debate sub. But feel free to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:24 PM
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Think about it. A guy opts out because he doesn't see any women that are worth marrying. He's got reasons. Legitimate to him. He's done the dating game and decided it's not worth it. Is there a dearth of women with x, y, z characteristics? Or does he just not want the women he's dated? A woman opts out because she doesn't see any men that are worth marrying. She's got reasons. Legitimate to her. She's done the dating game and decided it's not worth it. It's not a dearth of men of similar educati…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:21 PM
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The problem with those talking about this supposed sexodus, is that there are two phenomena that they are conflating. The first? Men that are pissed because they think feminism made dating/marriage a losing deal for men and want to opt out. These people are insignificant. The second? Youth, men and women, that no longer want to do the whole marriage/children thing because it is becoming more and more acceptable not to. (You can also blame/thank feminism for doing that). When people have more opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:55 PM
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They talk about the bell curve but AWALT doesn't even apply "in general."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:34 PM
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Meant. Languages change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:07 PM
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Every movement has dumb/toxic people in it. It's unavoidable. Do the idiots cancel out those that I respect and agree with? (Which happen to be those that matter) They're all part of the same movement. I don't have to agree with 10's of millions of people. But when I think of issues that affect, me, my husband, my children, feminists are advocating for policies and social dynamics that I agree with. Who cares about some mod on reddit? Who cares about a 15 year old poster on tumblr? They're insig…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 05:52 PM
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Feminists are people. Of course they can act silly. But feminism is also responsible for a great many changes now and in the past that I agree with. Why wouldn't I call myself feminist? I read somewhere that 20% of the US self-identified as feminist. That's 10's of millions of men and women. There's bound to be some butt heads in there. I'm level headed enough to acknowledge that the mod of r/feminism and r/askfeminists is on a power trip, still find value in those subs as sources of information…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 05:45 PM
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Maybe it's not the same individuals. I don't think this is very common. But as I said, you pay more attention to BP posts than me, and I don't read TBP, maybe you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 05:37 PM
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Did you actually find someone that holds this position? I really haven't seen it, it's so blatantly hypocritical. I'm not saying there aren't- but do you have any examples? Is this a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:03 PM
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Happy birthday!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 01:57 PM
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Yes. And some prefer it that way. it's a common misconception that they're not working outside the home- wasn't sure if that was what you were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 01:54 PM
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That's not exactly true. Many of them are the breadwinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 01:42 PM
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They're pretty harsh on feminists. It's ironic. Check out the wherearerhefeminists sub. It's full of banned feminists. First time, I expressed a non-feminist opinion about the definition of sexism, as a first level response. I explained that it wasn't an "official" feminist stance, although many feminists do think that way, but I thought it was important that the OP see variety. That's against their rules- posting non-feminist first level responses. So they banned me. No warning. Didn't reply to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:53 AM
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Well, it bothered me and it didn't. I'm glad it happened because it showed me what you guys put up with. They take something personal and hold it up for ridicule. I never participated in the BP sub before, but it certainly made me empathize with those they target. Btw- why did you guys decide to ban me? I find TRP abhorrent, but HHL knew my old handles, I thought everyone was ok with that so long as I didn't voice those opinions on RPW. I was actually surprised you gave me that magenta flair bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:12 AM
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That seems to be the true way to go. I can dig that. The women I know like that are the same. Just have no interest in marriage/kids, doing other things. No reason to obsess about half the human population.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:02 AM
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Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:02 AM
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That happened with me in the past. First they mocked my marriage and my attempts to dress more feminine for my husband, then they tried to get me to go to that get feminine sub. With a smile. Like nothing happened. I called them on it. Linked them to the posts. No shame whatsoever. And it's been far worse for others. Some of them are just terrible people. Not racist, not misogynist, but terrible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 01:52 AM
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Nope . They ban lots. Feminists though. I got banned from 3 separate accounts. I gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 01:46 AM
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This analogy doesn't work. The black man isn't lauded, the white man isn't shamed. At the end of the day, they are judged for their output.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 10:10 PM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 10:09 PM
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Women and men. Yes. That would be a good example. Like I said, I don't know how often i've seen that conflicting opinion expressed here, but you pay more attention to BP posts than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:56 PM
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It would depend on the person, but if they believed in the concept of safe spaces, then it would be hypocritical to complain when they are denied participation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:38 PM
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Well, that's a bit hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:18 PM
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I don't think many will disagree with you on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 08:47 PM
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Most people learn the hard way. Don't sweat it. Not everyone is worth the effort here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 08:43 PM
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Yes, you could try to prove that I said something entirely different from what I actually said. It's futile, but you could try. Also, it's silly to complain of being baited when it's you that initiated a conversation with me. You don't like talking to me? Then don't. You're not required to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 08:41 PM
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Yes, there's a lot of misunderstanding. It's very rare when you find someone on the opposite end of the debate isle that can list off what you actually think instead of what they think you think. It's both sides, and again, it's every debate. This one isn't special in that regard. This is one of the more interesting aspects of debate sometimes. The challenging part. Truly understanding what someone is saying. I've got two RPs here that aren't understanding me. Here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Purpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 06:59 PM
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No, the "you" was rhetorical not directed at the OP, and I didn't propose solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 06:54 PM
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Many of the current threads are RPs trying to convince BPs that they are right. Or to disprove them. They also get pissed when it doesn't work. It's endemic to both sides, it's endemic to every debate forum, regardless of the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 06:09 PM
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That's not exactly the reason. What reaction would you expect black people to have towards white people claiming they are intellectually inferior? Or lazy? Couching it in politically correct terms doesn't do much to hide the racism. It's your viewpoints they hate (and you, as a consequence) not the way you frame your arguments. But yes, because you are solidly RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:41 PM
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"You're a misogynist" was not my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:00 PM
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Nope. it's the second. you want to pretend it's the first to justify righteous anger. It doesn't sound so righteous if you're a misogynist asshole complaining about a lack of attention. And yes, this whole brietbart crowd and self-declared MGTOWs are misogynist assholes. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. We know these guys want us to care. These SEXODUS posts are desperate pleas for attention. Now if they would just "go their own way" already and quit whining about the women they suppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:37 PM
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Not at all. Because personality impacts attractiveness. Porn is damaging because it gives unrealistic portrayals of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 03:13 PM
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Low status men? Or low status (any status really) men who hate women, blame their problems on women, and then remove themselves from the dating market in the hope that those same women will care?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 01:19 PM
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No, I mean, there seems to be some here that have sour grapes that they were ignored in this thread. No marry/kill/fuck mention by anyone despite posting often. It was just a rhetorical question, is it better to be ignored? Or hated? like everyone seems to have this hate hard on for you and HHL here. I mean, it was a "fun topic" as mentioned, and many people couldn't keep it light. Although HHL just threw it back at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 01:08 PM
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WAH hah hah! Oh my. I snorted my tea. You get an upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:34 AM
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1) she doesn't know what feminism is. We're finding lots of starlets don't know what feminism is. I'm not offended by this. 2) she's not in a traditional household by any means. If she were, I wouldn't be offended. 3) there are feminist stay at home moms. Do a search, you'll find them. Momsrising.org includes SAHMs. There is absolutely a place for traditional women in feminism. The mommy wars were fought and won a decade ago by the. "Feminism is about choice" crowd. 4) "taking care" of a husband…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:22 AM
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Yes to all you said. One effect of Feminism means that when you finish your college degree and have a shit ton of loans to pay off with a salary that is not adequate to do so any time soon, you at least can be sure that most women won't be expecting you to provide for them if/when you choose to marry. They'll be working their asses off trying to pay that loan off too. It must be so depressing being in college now. Good luck to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:15 AM
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More for the PhD glut.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:09 AM
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There's a few sour grapes here- people upset they didn't called out. What's worse? Being hated or being ignored? Definitely some people upset about being ignored here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:04 AM
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Bars? Why a bar? Boooooooring! How about paintball?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 03:56 AM
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Hmm. What would we be arguing about? If we're married, we're splitting household duties and I'm working at a job I like. We'd be living a feminist reality anyway. Hope you don't mind me getting serious. It's a different angle to approach the debate from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:39 AM
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What is it that this article proves?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 01:59 AM
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So what do you do when I start arguing with you about philosophy/politics? Also, why is it important to marry a woman that believes in god if you're an atheist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 01:48 AM
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To be fair, this "fun topic" was used to skewer him right off the bat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 01:46 AM
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What's the male/female ratio in this poly marriage? Looks like good times.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 01:19 AM
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Of course you wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 01:13 AM
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Really? You'd marry a feminist? What is this world coming to? I don't think I can rely on gravity anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:22 PM
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If you marry me, you've ceded your patriarchal man card by default. I'm working and we're splitting domestic duties, remember? I'll sleep with your MRA card under my pillow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 04:17 PM
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What fun would it be if I didn't have to work for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 04:06 PM
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Cuddles are always good. You do know I will turn you into a feminist, don't you? You'll be one of those- feminists and MRAs are on the same side- guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:56 PM
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Oh. Thank you! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:46 PM
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Because it is reeking of desperation for women to take any of this seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:36 PM
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Really? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:26 PM
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You know you'd be marrying a diehard feminist, don't you? Are you absolutely sure you want to do that? I'd be bringing home more bacon than you and you'd be splitting household and kid raising duties with me. Also, no barbies or princess toys for our girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:24 PM
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Fuck: Jack1000, He said something awhile back about dating someone that wanted to be spanked and fucked after being chastised for not ironing his shirts properly. Yep. I still remember that. Call me a feminist man-hater while you do it and I'm good to go. Marry: MrSamsa, I don't think anyone debates as well as him or has as much patience Kill: Phokus. Everytime I've talked with him I wonder anew what I hope to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:20 PM
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