Mitoza Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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3	Do You Think Being Platonic Friends With Women Is Worth It? If the reason they don't want to be friends with men is that they don't think highly of them, yes. OP demonstrably hates women. That's what the logic operates on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/23 09:52 PM
9	Do You Think Being Platonic Friends With Women Is Worth It? If you feel like you would have to be forced to be friends with women, it's clear that you don't like them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/23 07:17 PM
12	Do You Think Being Platonic Friends With Women Is Worth It? I demonstrated which parts indicate this. If you are unsure why that indicates hatred of women you can ask me specific questions but I believe I made myself clear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/23 07:13 PM
14	Do You Think Being Platonic Friends With Women Is Worth It? If you think any man who is platonic friends with women are lying just to seem PC, then my earlier charge stands. You hate women and don't see any real redeeming qualities in being friends with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/23 06:53 PM
9	Do You Think Being Platonic Friends With Women Is Worth It? No, that's not just what you're saying. You're saying that women have no redeeming qualities when it comes to being friends with them platonically. I can’t find anything interesting when it comes to being platonic friends with women This indicates a dislike of women. If you can't see them as people who you could possibly be friends with then the issue is you, not women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/23 06:45 PM
15	Do You Think Being Platonic Friends With Women Is Worth It? If you hate women and only are interested in them if there is the prospect of sleeping with them then the issue is you, not women's capacity to be worthy friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/23 06:38 PM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Calm down	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/23 05:32 PM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Im not saying anyone has to be perfect. You aren't reading what I'm writing correctly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 11:16 PM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Men are going to make the changes necessary to succeed regardless of how women feel about it. Right, that's men's prerogative, not women's	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 06:09 PM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. "Men should decide that." Men are deciding that, and then going on to decide that women not validating them are threatening their masculinity, and then people like OP tell women to stop acting like that so they don't provoke men with precarious masculinity on the manosphere. Men are measuring themselves by women's stick's and getting mad that they don't measure up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 05:50 PM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. I think you're confused. It's men who are deciding to hinge their masculinity on this, not women. Women will say they're not attracted to XYZ and that becomes suddenly political because some dudes don't think they exist without women validating them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 05:33 PM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. No, it's me saying the idea that men hinge their sense of masculinity on impressing particular women is not the fault of those women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 05:00 PM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. and say women can't help being unattracted to xyz? I didn't say that	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 04:25 PM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. You seem to be agreeing with me without realizing it	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 03:57 PM
2	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. That's not what you wrote	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 01:44 AM
2	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. No it wasn't. You had to make up stuff Tate never said, like liking assertive women. So if he did only just frame this as just being attracted to traits xyz that I described, you wouldn't have a problem with it? As I said, Tate can desire a trad wife all he wants. But you know he doesn't stop there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 01:24 AM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Y'all so emotional	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 01:12 AM
2	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Hypotheticals are only as useful as they are reflective of reality. Your example was Tate. Tate unironically believes women exist at the pleasure of men. He does not frame this as just being attracted to traits xyz. If you want to make a comparison you have to actually compare like things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 01:02 AM
2	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Her place is subservient to men according to Tate. To liken that to not liking men drinking Starbucks is insane on your part.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 12:52 AM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Describing her place in a relationship dynamic is different than not liking me drinking Starbucks by a vast margin. You seem very supportive of his existence though since you're okay tolerating the toxic things dumb women say online as well Argue in good faith bro	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 11:12 PM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. He's said many times before he likes certain hegemonic forms of femininity That's fine. He can like trad wives all he wants. He goes further than that though and you know it. Don't pretend otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 11:01 PM
0	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. That's a diverse band.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 10:41 PM
1	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Tate doesn't say that though. Tates misogyny is his thoughts on the inherent nature of women. You have a problem arguing in good faith? Are your ideas so weak you have to field these idiotic attacks rather than actual arguments?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 10:40 PM
0	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. I responded to it by dismissing it. Women only enforce hegemonic masculinity in this way in so far as you want to contort yourself to fit their expectations. You're in the driver's seat bud. Your problems are from within.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 10:13 PM
-3	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Discrimination isn't when a woman won't sleep with you because you fell in the shower lmao	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 10:00 PM
-10	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. they do hinge their masculinity on women in general being attracted to them. Yeah, that's toxic and it's not women's fault for being attracted to xyz	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 09:53 PM
-11	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. A woman heads to the public square and shouts "I am unattracted to men who trip in the shower". The only way this amounts to toxic masculinity is if you hinge masculinity on this woman being attracted to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 08:06 PM
2	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. i’m saying this content gives them justification to act this way as a whole I'm not confused by this. "The manosphere existing" and the manosphere's activities are not relevantly different for me. The manosphere is defined by the activity they are engaging in. Presumably if this group of individuals weren't talking to each other the group wouldn't be said to exist. it will keep existing so long as they’re fed content that feeds into their biases. I understand that this is your view. Your prescri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 08:00 PM
3	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. I don't care whether or not you've criticized the manosphere, the problem with your argument remains the same. You believe that the manosphere has a reason to exist in reacting to this content from women and they are justified in that response. That's what I'm talking about. It simply means that one reason Y justifies its own existence is because of X (i suppose i should’ve made that clearer - but I assumed the overall point of the post as well as making where I stand clear insinuated that im ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 06:03 PM
3	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. The internet does affect real life. You are blind if you don't see that I never argued otherwise. Indeed, I think that the internet is reflective of our values. That's why when the manosphere dedicates a lot of time fear mongering about the fall of western civilization because some high schooler made fun of short men, I take it as a statement of their real values. Our major difference it seems is who we think the problem is here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 05:54 PM
1	We don’t need Paternity Tests. Yawn	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 05:46 PM
2	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. OP's point would be that some women expressing a preference for masculine men represents a driving force for toxic masculinity, which is different than the mere observation that they prefer masculine men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 05:25 PM
2	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. I don't see how this addresses anything I wrote.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 05:23 PM
0	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Icks are preferences phrased in the negative. The preference being expressed is vaguely for masculine men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 05:15 PM
7	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Even when you used quotations and said "bad things are bad", you couldn't bring yourself to say that toxic women are bad. I'm just telling you what the issue is. I admit that toxic women are bad. However the problem is that we disagree whether or not women are being toxic in this case. I'm pointing that out because just agreeing that toxic women are bad without qualification seems like I'm agreeing with your hidden premise that these women are actually being toxic. I hope that clears it up for y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 05:12 PM
10	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. I've been around long enough to see misogyny online pre Andrew Tate. Tate was just the latest personification of it of an endless cycle of feminist wins and misogynistic backlash that goes like this: Women gain ground in society Men have a crisis of masculinity Men begin to spiral around figures that represent a resurgance of their lost standing, and obviously these tend to be not the greatest role models. People blame 3 on 1 because they are unreasonably sympathetic to 2. Rinse and repeat	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 05:05 PM
-6	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. I think you have it backwards: a woman talking on tiktok about her icks is stating her preferences. For example, if a woman is saying that she is only attracted to jealous types or whatever, this does not contribute to toxic masculinity. What contributes to toxic masculinity are guys who look at that and decide that impressing this particular woman is worth changing their personality for or taking it as a decree from all women to all men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 04:59 PM
2	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Because you're not formulating the argument correctly. "Bad things are bad" is an easy concession, sure, but that comes loaded with the assumption that the topic we're talking about is accurately described as a "bad thing".	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 04:53 PM
3	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. I did not say 18 year old women posting on tiktok were being toxic. The biggest problem in this exchange are the men putting targets on their own backs and making it everyone else's problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 04:44 PM
3	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. criticize and call out… not shame, big difference. Not meaningfully different, no. Your goal is to try and get this behavior to stop through criticizing and calling out (which is a shaming technique). Regardless, I made my stance clear. And I think the solution goes both ways, call these men out and shame the RP/manosphere content creators that use this But that was not your first suggestion. Your first suggestion was that this sort of behavior justifies the manosphere. So what is it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 04:43 PM
-10	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Examples of what? What do you suppose a girl talking about her icks on tiktok says about anything and what response does it warrant?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 04:39 PM
1	We don’t need Paternity Tests. No, access also means legality. Abortion rights post Roe V Wade are highly restricted in a number of states. You are free to argue that this is a good policy, but I don't like your chances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 04:37 PM
6	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. I do not support older/wiser women shaming 18 yo for talking about height preferences on tiktok. The more important part of this equation to change are the people who are making a concerted effort to drag these girls. when 30 something year old men are telling young/unwise teenage and young adult men that “this is how all women are”, there has to be a balancing force. The balancing force is not to capitulate to their narrative about women. They are wrong. Call them out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 04:28 PM
8	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. exactly what manosphere creators mine and use for their content. Exactly, they mine it. No amount of perfect behavior on the part of women will lead to people who hate them being unable to criticize them. The manosphere loves to trump up what they see as bad behavior (again, being shallow online is normal and not a gender crime) so that they can post hoc rationalize their already held beliefs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 04:22 PM
9	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. I know your point. Ultimately the manosphere creators and consumers do take the most blame here, but it isn’t about pointing fingers. But that's what your post is doing. You're saying that the behavior of these girls on tiktok justifies the response of manosphere creators. Using social media to talk about your (shallow) preferences is completely normal. What is not normal is to take that, blow it up as if that is the position of all women, and then use it fear monger about the fall of western ci…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 04:11 PM
9	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. Yes. Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 04:02 PM
23	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. The 30 year old men in the manosphere whining about 18 year old girls being shallow on tiktok is not the girls fault	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 03:59 PM
1	Staring vs glancing You're right, that would require you to be capable of engaging on my level. All you can do is react with anger because you're incapable of forwarding a real argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 03:08 AM
1	Staring vs glancing Scared you might learn something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 03:00 AM
1	Staring vs glancing I feel pretty confident about it given that the only thing you guys can muster are bad insults.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 02:55 AM
1	Staring vs glancing Sad about OP losing huh. It's ok little buddy. Maybe you can learn from his failures.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 02:46 AM
1	We don’t need Paternity Tests. The most objectionable part of your policy is the opt in issue. If you insist on not defending that, then how strong can that idea really be?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 02:46 AM
2	We don’t need Paternity Tests. presumably ‘Plan B’ is not too onerous? Either financially, nor availability wise? You have to be over 17 to purchase it and it is not widely available. It is also not an alternative to abortion rights. If your policy is that fathers needs to be negotiated into opting into child support, that will obviously take time. If it takes longer than six weeks you are SOL in many US states. Is this preferable to 100% knowing where you stand? When making such a life altering decision? But that's not the s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 01:44 AM
1	Staring vs glancing Not at all, just not interested in having to explain the difference between "preventing" and "outlawing", especially because the other user themselves doesn't really care about preventing creepshots they care about stopping women from recording men behaving creepily at them. Once the other user decides to argue forthrightly, so will I.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 12:59 AM
1	Staring vs glancing I know, it's me trying to cut to the chase instead of arguing through a layer of irony. If you're too scared to do that oh well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 12:53 AM
2	Staring vs glancing How about we cut the shit and just argue about what we believe instead of caging it in all these allegations of hypocrisy that needs to be cleared up before you can understand me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 12:48 AM
2	Staring vs glancing What do you mean by support? Do you think people shouldn't be able to?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 12:37 AM
3	Staring vs glancing Go for it, I'm posting publicly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 12:30 AM
1	Staring vs glancing Your opinion has been registered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 12:28 AM
0	Staring vs glancing I know, there is nothing to counter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 12:25 AM
-1	Staring vs glancing Not an argument	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 12:23 AM
1	Staring vs glancing Thank you for agreeing	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 12:16 AM
1	Staring vs glancing I declare simply that I am right when you stomp your feet and say "no" without any argument. It's an invitation for you to actually defend your arguments, which I understand is very hard for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 12:12 AM
1	Staring vs glancing Only if they deserve it. I told you why I was saying the things I was saying about you, and they you went on to clearly demonstrate I was right. Now it's time for you to self reflect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 12:02 AM
1	Staring vs glancing No that pretty much wraps it. I hope you learn something from this	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 11:51 PM
1	We don’t need Paternity Tests. No, that just means that ethics are contextual and cultural, which they are. You're expecting to see the old school ultimate moral authority of God defining what is right and what is wrong, but that too was merely the most popular conventional morality at the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 11:45 PM
1	We don’t need Paternity Tests. No, that was you. I said community ethics was derived from the community and you replied with a non sequitor. If you're confused ask clarifying questions, but I was quite clear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 11:41 PM
1	We don’t need Paternity Tests. No, the community. The community defines what is laudable, acceptable, and deviant behavior and thus enforces community ethics. That's why when you see some people called heroes for going the extra mile to help others and why you have a hard time relating to people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 11:38 PM
–	We don’t need Paternity Tests. The good thing in question is the social safety net. You know, that thing you were complaining about when you were whining about taxation. And who defines it as good? The community. Misanthropy is a cool look for teenagers and an embarrassing one for adults.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 11:33 PM
1	Staring vs glancing Can't argue with the dictionary when it shows you're a misogynist and then use it to have pointless arguments about the difference between staring and glancing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 11:25 PM
–	We don’t need Paternity Tests. Yes, in a secular society. It is basic kindergarten ethics to make sure your neighbor is reasonably taken care of. If we shouldn’t give a shit about birth rates or men actually fathering their own progeny It sounds like you're just jaded and don't want good things to happen to other people out of sense of aggrievement. This is not going to get you very far in life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 11:24 PM
1	Staring vs glancing Well, you're ridiculous. Misogyny is dislike for women. You just painted women negatively as wanting to live in fear. QED. It's straight from websters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 11:15 PM
-1	Staring vs glancing That I believe women these days are experiencing irrational fear of men, to the point they can't handle glances, means I hate women? OK then. Yes, exactly. Incorrect. Unfortunately it is true. Appealing to the dictionary will be unable to save you from being a misogynistic creep.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 11:11 PM
3	Staring vs glancing Misogynists taking L's	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 11:05 PM
2	Staring vs glancing Nah, living in fear is a woman's wet dream, not mine. Yea, bro totally doesn't hate women lol It's clear to you because when you can't win an argument you call people names and paint them as whatever you think will be hurtful. An argument implies a back and forth using arguments. Your arguments are just deflections and word games, which is why I needed to get to the root of the issue: what you think about the world stems from your hatred of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 11:05 PM
5	Staring vs glancing You responded to my question asking about why this made men uncomfortable. You didn't have an issue with it then before it was clear how you contradicted yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:58 PM
3	Staring vs glancing Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe my wandering eyes are something people like you shouldn't worry about. I guess you'll just have to learn to live with fear being caught and blasted on social media. You can keep telling me how I feel over and over but it doesn't make it true. It's clear from the stuff you write. I know it's hard to look into the mirror when your reflection is so unflattering, but it's the only way you're going to grow out of this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:58 PM
6	Staring vs glancing That's about comfort. You can choose not to look at women on the bus, but you're more comfortable doing it especially if there are no consequences for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:53 PM
2	Staring vs glancing Maybe those women should approach their discomfort in the same way and just move on or else take an actual stand instead of running to a social media mob for attention and support. Maybe you should learn to look out the window and not whine about your wandering eyes getting caught. You see, I didn't ever say they were ogling anyone I know you don't, your effort here is to minimize what's happening on one end and trump up what's happening to men on the other because you hate women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:51 PM
–	We don’t need Paternity Tests. I don't have a clue why you think this is relevant to anything I said, and yet it still manages to be wrong on its own terms. Unless you're the kookiest of kooky libertarians, you recognize that you have a duty to the common good of your nation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:43 PM
6	We don’t need Paternity Tests. The policy de-incentivises getting pregnant by any rando We already live in a world that does this and it still happens. No amount of inflicting more suffering on women for having sex will stop inconvenient children from being born. Backwards policies like this only make those children suffer more. As for women having power because they are the ones that get pregnant thats bullshit. As long as she didnt use a sperm donor the man should have an equal say. No, that's bullshit. There is no moral ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:42 PM
4	Staring vs glancing So it is about men's comfort. In another thread you're swearing up and down that it isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:38 PM
3	Staring vs glancing There is a difference between staring and glancing by definition It doesn't matter to the message they're trying to convey and that you're trying to ignore. Come on, be a brave boy and deal with the things that you disagree with honestly. I don't believe someone being uncomfortable justifies social media dragging and shaming. I don't believe you being upset about using the word "staring" rather than "glancing" warrants your tirade here, but nonetheless you are free to demonstrate your hysteria a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:37 PM
–	We don’t need Paternity Tests. Right, so the policy relies on coercing women from keeping babies knowing that they will have no support in raising them. Those that do keep babies without the father opting in will be the stupid ones because we all know that raising a kid without support is difficult. Women have more power than men over abortions because women are they are the ones who get pregnant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:31 PM
–	We don’t need Paternity Tests. You need to get your head checked if this policy makes sense to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:25 PM
3	We don’t need Paternity Tests. Women already have an unfair amount of responsibility on them to raise the next generation. Your scheme here would result in more childhood poverty. Women have autonomy on paper but: We do not live in a world where abortion is accessible and affordable The choice you're laying at women's feet by absolving men of responsibility is to abort the baby knowing there will be no support (in this economy, no less) or not aborting the baby and then having to raise the child with no support.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:24 PM
5	Staring vs glancing We shouldn't have to control our gazes. Why is that uncomfortable for men to do?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:15 PM
2	Staring vs glancing It is semantics to quibble over whether something qualifies as staring or glancing to distract from the point that whatever you called the behavior it was making them uncomfortable. It's not men's comfort that is at issue here, it's women's. You're arguing for men's comfort to ogle women. I know you don't frame it like that because it makes your argument look like shit but that's what you're doing. I have no bias against women. Yes you do. When women complain about being ogled at in public, you …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 10:12 PM
8	Staring vs glancing I really don't care about the semantics about it as much as you do. Insisting on arguing them is just further demonstrating your inability or unwillingness to listen. And the world doesn't owe anyone comfort. You seem to think so though. You are of the belief that men can't control their eyes and that it is only natural for them to be checking out women in public. You're privileging their comfort and ability to ogle people in public over other's right to complain about that. I have a feeling mys…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 09:03 PM
7	Staring vs glancing "This guy staring at me is making me uncomfortable" isn't a lie. You going on an unhinged rant about whether it qualifies as staring smacks of misogyny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 08:29 PM
8	Staring vs glancing The point is that instead of hearing what people have been saying re:being looked at in public you're complaining about their word choice. You need to do a better job listening bud	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 08:18 PM
9	Staring vs glancing I left you another comment regarding the buffoonery on display over your semantics that addresses this. Your argument is that men can't help it. If that's true, men are babies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 08:10 PM
10	Staring vs glancing We can't even help it, most of the time. You are a whole baby if you do not have the self control not to stare at women in public	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 07:59 PM
8	Staring vs glancing Women on the train: "This guy was staring at me and it made me uncomfortable" Men on this sub, tripping over their undone pants and falling face first exposing their whole ass: "Um, actually, what he was doing was not staring because it was not prolonged per se. As you can clearly see he breaks his gaze over multiple intervals. What he is doing is GLANCING or CHECKING YOU OUT, so clearly it is unreasonable for you to be uncomfortable"	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 07:54 PM
1	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? Passing a law limiting speech is anti free speech, which makes you...	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 09:27 PM
2	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? Unfortunately your participation speaks louder than your attempts to avoid the implication.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 09:26 PM
1	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? You're running away because you know you can't beat the allegations	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 09:23 PM
2	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? I know, because the issue is gendered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 09:20 PM
1	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? Whatever you need to tell yourself, authoritarian	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 09:20 PM
2	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? It's not gendered. Sure it isn't. You just happened to have this conversation about women. I know what a burka is, fool. I know you do. You were confused by what I said about modesty laws. That's what I was referring to. No, it's not straigforward. It's nonsense My bad for assuming a reading level above 7th grade	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 09:17 PM
1	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? Yeah and you are making this about me limiting that even though you want to limit what and how people can look at things. I never advocated for a law about who could look at what or advocated for criminalizing looking at things. You on the other hand want to control what women can post online. My record on speech is better than yours	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 09:14 PM
2	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? This particular norm could be enforced by doing what I already suggested which is saying something instead of defaulting to tik You suggested if they are being stared at, while this isn't particularly a big deal, they can inform the other person that they do not wish to be stared at. You have a lot of rules for women's behavior and not a lot for men's it seems. There is no modesty laws, man It's like you want to misunderstand. The modestly law question is reference to burkas, where in some count…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 08:57 PM
1	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? I don't follow. I believe people can be rude and we should just move on with our lives perhaps after doing the bare minimum by informing them. Change your tune if you want, we can all see what you wrote before. Where do get this? From your arguments. The only response to rudeness you have floated as acceptable is politiely informing the other party that it is rude, and it's unclear if you even think it's rude in the first place. If she let's him know, and he stops, what else is there to say? Wha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 08:50 PM
2	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? I said are allowed to be rude and nobody should her into a twist over it because can and should go on. Right, so how do norms get enforced? Earlier you were saying that you would support women confronting men about this, but you clearly don't. You don't think people who fart in an elevator should be ostracized either right? I don't think women must wear a burka or anything else You're not misunderstood. I know you aren't arguing for this unironically. The burka thing is making fun of women who d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 08:37 PM
1	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? Yes! This is how it works! Avoid them or confront them! But you don't believe in the social norms that classify them as rude. See the farting in the elevator example. I have no problem calling anyone out when I feel it's necessary But you never feel it's necessary. So what!!!???? So if that woman confronted that guy what would you say? You clearly don't think that that amount of looking a big deal, which is why I don't believe you'd ever actually stick up for a woman confronting people staring a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 08:23 PM
2	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? ...but you don't believe in social norms that would classify staring as rude. I never actually said the burka thing. You brought that up. I know, that's the argument we're talking about and you're defending. You agree with the burka argument and that's why you're disagreeing with me. Your attempts to deflect here make you look weak. Assumptions again. I don't care if you are personally afraid about it or not. Your argument only works through fear mongering.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 08:18 PM
3	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? I've already explained that you can hold someone accountable without using awful social media shaming, like a coward Right, as if I really believe after this performance that you would support women making a public scene about being stared at. No. My argument is they don't need protection at all. I know, that's why you satirize efforts to do so as alike to wearing a burka. It is embarrassing that I understand your argument better than you do. And I dunno why you think it's effective at all. Beca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 08:09 PM
1	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? Maybe you can fetch me one when you stop making silly arguments about my supposed contradictions instead of staying on point. This is the point. You're a chauvinistic hypocrite whose position sums to men can't be accountable for what they do in public and women can't complain about it using powerful communication tools. That's what the fear about the mob is based on right? Nobody needs protection from staring. It's ridiculous. I am going to try and explain this more slowly for you. There are wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 07:45 PM
1	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? People can be rude without the internet gistapo being called in. As another poster aptly put it, it's much ado about nothing. More importantly, you're defending people's right to be rude to the extent that the onus is on the people they are being rude to avoid them, because you're never going to call them out for it and don't think they should be. Nobody I saw was leering. I see that you have completely moved on from the free speech whining. I looked at the first video and it's clear that guy is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 07:37 PM
2	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? Fuck social norms if we are going to start publicly shaming everyone for breaking them on occasion. Isn't your gripe that people are violating the social norms by filming people they should just brush off? It's rules for thee and not for me. From what? From the stares. That's the point of saying they should wear a burka. You put the onus on women to not be stared at. If you want to understand what's being said you're going to have to read the entire thing. It's not long I believe in you. Lol.of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 07:20 PM
1	What would the ideal conditions for financial abortion look like? The only acceptable conditions for legal parental surrender are: total respect for abortion rights with no limits a high guaranteed level of support for children. I'm talking guaranteed high quality nutrition, education, health and child care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 06:45 PM
3	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? I don't disagree. You'll live. The point is that it's rude, and when you're in public there are a set of social norms that people uphold for the comfort of others. You are talking about limiting someone's gaze I'm saying what people should do and defending people's rights to film people who are leering at them. I don't know what you're construing as "limiting". Suggesting that you should not swear in front of children is not limiting your free speech either. You on the other hand are asking for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 06:41 PM
2	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? They are though. They are violating social norms. Instead of agreeing that what they are doing is wrong, you put the onus on women to protect themselves. But when they do that by filming the people leering at them, you complain about that as well. What's more, it's pointless, because it doesn't actually deter any leering. Are you sure? Because you and people like you seem to be very afraid that you will be accused in this manner. It seems like public shaming is very effective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 06:37 PM
2	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? I don't see a reason to distinguish the two. How can you argue that women have no right to privacy such that women should wear burkas if they don't want to be leered at but don't place a similar responsibility at the feet of people who don't want to be recorded in public?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 06:26 PM
3	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? And above all the guy getting accused gets to have his say. Guy can do that on the internet as well. But the internet is for ever and this lady has recruited strangers into her life. Same thing happens if she makes a public show of it, the difference here seems to be that you want people to move on from it without consequences being too high. Posting a video of someone you don't know the name of hardly ruins their life, and I'm not about to respect their privacy in public if they are crossing th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 06:24 PM
4	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? If it's just their eyeballs, then yes exactly. What baffles me is how anyone can argue against that. You can fart in a crowded elevator too. It's just their gas, what's the big deal? They are free to be as upset as they want without lamenting on social media. By what right do you limit their free speech? You implied men who were saying those comments (about the videos in the other thread op mentioned) all view woman as property or some bullshit like that. I'm replying to men suggesting that wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 06:19 PM
6	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? I thought there was no expectation of privacy in public? How can it be acceptable to leer at women and unacceptable to film men leering at you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 06:17 PM
2	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? I thought there was no expectation of privacy in public? It seems like you have it two ways: Women have no expectation not to be leered at in public Men who leer at women should be able to expect to do this without being called out publicly. My explanation for how you can believe these two things at the same time is chauvinism. What other explanation is there?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 06:13 PM
6	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? A person calling another creepy for leering at them is not saying they are breaking any laws, they are saying they are breaking social norms. You suggest a new norm: What's out in public is to be seen, by everyone. To make it seem like the above situation is not happening, but we all know it's impolite to leer at people in public.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 06:04 PM
7	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? I don't care what they wear, be it a burka or a bikini. Whatever they wear, they have no right to police peoples eyeballs. They need to get over themselves. Right, this is what I'm talking about. The argument is that women are in public and whatever men decide to do with them with their eyeballs is free reign. Your view would cover anything from stealing glances at them to leering at them, and women are not entitled to be upset about this because their bodies are in public and men want to look a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 05:12 PM
10	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? If your response to a woman saying she is uncomfortable with men staring at them is to tell them to wear a burka and to deal with it, then you absolutely believe women exist for your pleasure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 05:06 PM
8	Do men really spend so much time staring at others that they believe that anyone who feels uncomfortable by it is malicious, foolish, or playing victim? I don't stare at women in public because it's rude and everyone knows this. Same as 1. No. The reaction you're pointing out is the reaction of a spoiled kid getting their candy taken away. The reason you're getting all of this bluster from men blaming women for essentially existing in public is because they actually think that women exist for their pleasure and they are offended that you would even have an opinion on that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 02:48 PM
1	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? I was referring primarily to the quantity of the evidence, significantly more than their opposition. YoUr ClAiM iS uNfOuNdEd UnLeSs YoU cAn PrOvIdE a SiGnIfIcAnT QuAnTiTy Of CoUnTeR eViDeNce	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 07:16 AM
1	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? As I said, having a "whole ass wiki" doesn't mean that they actually have good research or arguments. Feet has a wiki.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 06:46 AM
3	All Double Standards Between Men and Women can be Explained by our Evolution - Change My Mind Well it is unironically because God made it that way LMAO OP didn't mention Evo psyche they simply mentioned evolution/biology/nature which is last time I checked a thing that definitely exists. It doesn't matter to my point. OP still needs to do the work of their exercise and make sure they aren't telling just-so stories.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 05:56 AM
1	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? I'm not unreasonable, but you're not going to change my mind with source: dude just trust me	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 03:49 AM
1	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? The feet wiki has even C list celebrity feet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 03:36 AM
–	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? Feet has a wiki man	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 02:34 AM
–	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? If you're claiming that they have good evidence isn't it on you to show that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 01:15 AM
1	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? I told you to be honest	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/23 11:59 PM
2	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? Be honest now, would you sum up red pill and incel ideology as "women like tall attractive powerful men".	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/23 11:01 PM
6	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? Counter evidence to what? All you did was assert that they had more evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/23 10:41 PM
5	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? Incels cherry pick research to justify already held beliefs. The amount of time they dedicate to this process does not make their conspiracy theories actually more valid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/23 10:31 PM
-1	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? You're welcome to make an argument to that effect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/23 09:26 PM
14	Why do we hear less about how toxic dating is in real life? The incels and redpillers are a minority of conspiracy theorists who are spinning a narrative that doesn't survive real world applications.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/23 04:50 PM
11	All Double Standards Between Men and Women can be Explained by our Evolution - Change My Mind Similarly, I can justify any double standard by explaining that god made it that way. When doing your exercise you need to make sure that you aren't telling just-so stories. Evolutionary psychology in particular loves to look at particular behaviors and cook up post hoc explanations for how this behavior is arrived at through evolutionary processes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/23 04:44 PM
1	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? Coward	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 10:20 PM
1	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? If you had something worth saying you would have said it by now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 10:15 PM
1	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? I was asking you what the issue with the obsession with money was in relation to sexual politics, you know, the topic of my post. My mistake for assuming you would understand that conversations go back and forth and build on what was previously said. If I see you in the future I will be sure to be very specific in my language so you don't hurt yourself in confusion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 10:11 PM
1	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? You said obsession with money, and I asked you to expand on that. When I did you got hostile and now instead of talking about your point you're whining about how questions get asked to you. I wasn't aware I needed to spell out conversational english with you just so you would make your own point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 10:01 PM
1	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? You came in this thread disagreeing with what I wrote, saying you didn't disagree with the sexual revolution you had other issues with western ideals that spilled into sexual relationships. I asked "Like what". You said "Obsession with money". Ok, what about money and sexual relationships? Stop being a little coward and just make your goddamn point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 09:56 PM
1	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? I'm not going to yank your teeth trying to get you to make your own point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 09:50 PM
1	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? You are the one responsible for making your own points, I'm not going to make them for you. As it stands I can't see what you're trying to get at.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 09:43 PM
1	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? I'm asking you to relate it to sexual politics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 09:36 PM
1	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? I'm just asking you to relate what you're saying to the topic it at hand. If that's too scary for you I guess I don't really care to know what your opinion is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 09:34 PM
0	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? That doesn't really explain anything for me. What about money?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 08:55 PM
0	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? Like what	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 07:30 PM
3	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? It's not dishonest at all. People's preferences depend on their values. The reason it spirals into a moral argument is that when people share those preferences based on their values and they are attacked for it, they have to relate it back to their values in order to explain it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 06:30 PM
-1	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? Sexual politics reflect gender politics, which is what this is. It's not merely stating a preference. What you have on here are sets of descriptive ideas about the nature of men and women. These are statements like "Women are hypergamous", "Men are the pursuer, women are the pursued", or "Men need regular sex to be fulfilled" or any other number of statements claiming fact about how things are. On top of that, there are prescriptions for how society should align itself given these 'facts'. Usual…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 06:14 PM
6	Q4Men: Why is it important that people agree that men have it harder in dating? I mean as a man that's what it sounds like to me too. I'm sure all sorts of people would love to claim that their stances and understanding of reality come from logical conclusions. The truth is that the red pill is just as emotional as anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 11:08 PM
1	Oppression olympics Nuhuh, in so many words	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 07:50 AM
1	Oppression olympics Lol thanks for holding off on the hard gendered insults in favor of similarly hostile wild accusations. You're quite the gentleman. Go fuck yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 07:15 AM
1	Oppression olympics Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 07:06 AM
1	Oppression olympics It ain't that deep man, I just don't respect you given your performance here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 07:05 AM
1	Oppression olympics I read emotion into your stream of accusations like this: There will never be a dark night of the soul where you have to question the ideology much like a fatatical priest will never self reflect on the destruction his religion has wrought. like IDK man, you're responding to a thread where I'm doing light feminist apologia with all these wild accusations and it makes you sound like a scared wimp.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 05:06 AM
1	Oppression olympics Ironically that's what I would say of your attempts here. You aren't a free thinker, you just like the aesthetics of being a free thinker.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 05:01 AM
1	Oppression olympics What am I supposed to be shaken by here? You aren't presenting arguments, you're stomping around and whining that I'm an ideologue for talking about my point of view. Should I be impressed by your big displays of emotion?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 04:58 AM
1	Oppression olympics And you are an incoherent heckler	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 04:55 AM
1	Oppression olympics Why don't you calm down and come back when you're ready to listen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 04:53 AM
1	Oppression olympics I don't think you're saying anything, really. It is trying to coexist with it. Each profiting off the other. This is what you said. If this doesn't mean "feminism is trying to ally itself with patriarchy" then you aren't even paying attention to the words coming out of your mouth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 04:48 AM
1	Oppression olympics Anyone can label themselves a feminist, that doesn't mean that they do so coherently.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 04:43 AM
1	Oppression olympics I think its more weakminded to strawman all the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 04:42 AM
1	Oppression olympics He wasn't, learn to read.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 04:41 AM
2	Oppression olympics So many crack pot theories come from anti-feminism. I've heard patriarchy doesn't exist and it exists but its good, but this is the first time I've heard Patriarchy exists but its actually an ally of feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 04:40 AM
3	What are the essential tenets of the red and blue pills in the modern day? Sounds like some people agree with me then. But it has not thing to do with conservatism. Sounds like a you thing	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 01:07 AM
0	“Where are all the good men” You're caricaturizing the kind of person who says this. I want to know what you get out of that. Is it an ego thing	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 12:29 AM
0	“Where are all the good men” You didn't answer	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 11:32 PM
-1	Oppression olympics This is hilariously ironic, as this definition in no way shape or form agrees with yours. It does. Name one relevant difference. No its worded with more deliberate detail intended to define the exact parameters by which it functions, whereas yours was designed to be as minimalist as possible to steel man your position. Having a hard time dealing with a steel man? Hahaha. I'm the one who provided the definition initially. (A real one) and then you're the one who tried to counter mine. (With a fak…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 11:32 PM
-1	Oppression olympics Name one https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarchy First I used the anthropological definition, then I used the feminist one. Both different from yours. Nope your second definition is closer to mine but is worded more strongly. Lol that's not how it works, everyone knows that. I can't disprove it for you. So far all you've done is play games with the definition. If you can disprove it go for it, but you clearly don't even understand it so I don't like your chances. Feminism as an idea can't eve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 11:03 PM
0	“Where are all the good men” What do you get out of this caricature	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 10:47 PM
1	Oppression olympics Great example thank you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 10:30 PM
1	Oppression olympics You're just wrong. All you need to do is Google and you'll see tons of examples of it being used like I defined it. Even your definition (which I see has changed since your last attempt to define it) is consistent with how I mean it though is more strongly worded than how feminists tend to write about it. Because you're trying to avoid that conversation. That's your task. You can do it whenever you like. I welcome your challenges and I don't think you're likely to have good ones. That's complete…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 10:29 PM
1	Oppression olympics I didn't define it that way, I gave you the accurate definition of how feminisms use it. You can cry foul all you want but what I'm not hearing is you actually disproving it. Feminism isn't a club. It doesn't have leaders.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 10:21 PM
1	Oppression olympics More that you used a fabricated definition designed to be difficult to disprove So not so easily disproven then. It isn't fabricated, you just don't understand what you disagree with very well because antifeminism is a reactionary ideology. That's why your point has regressed to this	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 10:17 PM
1	Oppression olympics Coherent means logical and consistent and it's a statement about validity. We can disagree with the evidence for and against it for sure. I'm not sure I trust in your assessment that it is easily disproven when you couldn't define it accurately earlier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 10:06 PM
1	Oppression olympics Yes, but an ideas evidence is not the same thing as coherence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 10:01 PM
4	What are the essential tenets of the red and blue pills in the modern day? It's not a me thing, the concept is used often in conservative politics. The Wikipedia page for the red pill has lots of examples of the red pill in political, racial, and economic contexts. If that's not how you mean red pilled, fair enough but understanding how I mean it should help you understand what I'm saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 10:00 PM
1	Oppression olympics For example, inherently biasing the idea of male leadership and being biased against women in roles of power.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 09:55 PM
1	Oppression olympics I think the concepts would be recognizable as each other but they might come to different prescriptions or scopes of the effect	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 09:43 PM
4	What are the essential tenets of the red and blue pills in the modern day? Red pill has become more than the sexual strategy forum on Reddit. Red pilled has come to mean an awakening on many topics, and especially awakening to "not politically correct truths" about people who aren't straight white conservative men	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 09:42 PM
1	Oppression olympics Yes there is	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 09:31 PM
1	Oppression olympics A system that tends to put power in the hands of males	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 09:31 PM
0	Oppression olympics Yeah have you seen the definition of patriarchy before? It just means eldest male in a given society has the power and control That's its usage in anthropology. In feminist analysis it describes the distribution of power in gender dynamics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 09:12 PM
1	Oppression olympics I'm talking about patriarchy. That's the one ideology I'm talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 09:08 PM
0	Oppression olympics No ideology passes the bar of being unable to be co opted. You're confusing anyone's claim or what feminism to be with what feminism is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 09:07 PM
1	Oppression olympics The ideology is both logical and consistent. You might object to it but that doesn't make it incoherent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 09:01 PM
0	Oppression olympics The coherent ideology in question is patriarchy. You'll find that ideology though out feminisms despite differences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 08:56 PM
4	What are the essential tenets of the red and blue pills in the modern day? If you have specific questions to aid in your education let me know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 08:54 PM
2	Oppression olympics Ok, then you need to recognize criticism of a given thing is not inherently support of its opposite.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 08:53 PM
1	Oppression olympics The coherent ideology is patriarchy. You might have specific issues with facts justifying it but it is both logical and consistent. Anti-feminism has been around far longer than the red pill and isn't based on nonsense like the red pill is. Anti feminism/=the red pill The parts off the red pill that is relevant to this argument is its status as an anti-feminist ideology. No. The red pill is primarily an independent grift designed suck money out of low socioeconomic status and low esteem men. Its…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 08:52 PM
0	Oppression olympics You need to calm down before we can talk about this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 08:45 PM
1	Oppression olympics You don't know what red pilled means.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 08:38 PM
0	Oppression olympics No, patriarchy would be the idea about how power is distributed, dismantling the patriarchy (the most popular prescription) is about removing the system that distributes power unequally, not inventing a system that grants the opposite.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 08:34 PM
1	Oppression olympics You honeslty believe that everyone is fully aware of their privileges in this society? I believe that people believe that they view reality accurately and if all the red pill is is the claim that one views reality as it is opposed to how people are telling you to view reality, most people would consider themselves red pilled. The fact that this is a meaningless label is a consequence of you expanding the term to be over broad. That’s not a redpill idea. That’s bias males conclusion. That is a re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 08:30 PM
1	Oppression olympics People live in comfort of their hegemonic identities and privileged spaces blind to the reality of the world overwhelmingly. No those people are redpilled against attempts to dismantle a hegemony they like. If your only standard for red pill is the belief that you are awake and others sleep, no one really believes otherwise. You are the one who said that redpill means conservative. What exactly are we conserving? Conservative doesn't mean "a desire to conserve" plainly either. Conservative means…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 08:13 PM
2	Oppression olympics We're all redpilled then, making the label meaningless. That's clearly not how most people mean it. People not calling feminism red pilled is not because they are bigots.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 08:02 PM
0	Oppression olympics The red pill is not plainly "seeing past prescriptions to some greater truth". If that's what it was every political position would be red pill when that's clearly not what is meant by it. Red pill means conservative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 07:56 PM
-1	Oppression olympics That doesn't sound right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 07:50 PM
4	“Where are all the good men” We're not talking about anyone in particular. Some people do self criticize in addition to this, and some don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 07:42 PM
-2	Oppression olympics Feminism has a coherent ideology with regards to distribution of power. Anti-feminisn (the red pill) reacts to the spreading of that ideology by claiming what it supposes gives those arguments weight: claiming to be victims.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 07:35 PM
1	“Where are all the good men” I'm not sure what you're asking	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 07:15 PM
8	What are the essential tenets of the red and blue pills in the modern day? The Red Pill's one and only overarching belief is that the world is lying to itself and a minority of bold truth tellers are speaking plainly about how it actually is. This idea is used mostly to talk about generally counter-culture conservative leaning opinions. So-called sex-realsim, gender-realism, sometimes race-realism and capitalist realism all packaged into that one scene from the matrix where a person wakes up and sees the world how it truly is while everyone else takes the blue pill and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:25 PM
6	“Where are all the good men” Same reason as an incel insulting women. People who feel wronged shift the blame.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:11 PM
10	“Where are all the good men” A person saying "where are all the good men" is complaining about their situation, probably complaining about a string of bad partners. They aren't necessarily making a population level statement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:07 PM
0	Which parts of Redpill philosophy do you think have merit? I wouldn't listen to anything redpill has to say about women. Its only good advice is its most banal: taking care of yourself and so on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 05:05 PM
14	Feminism’s wet dream may be possible in the near future as Male Killing virus discovered in insects. Like most manosphere anti-feminist rhetoric, it's to fear monger about a genocide that isn't happening perpetrated by authoritarians that live in their heads.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/23 06:00 PM
10	Oh, hey, did you know they used to castrate patients in mental hospitals? (Only men, obviously) Female mental patients were also subject to hysterectomies	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 03:38 PM
1	Dating/Sex Success for Blue Pillers Well, there you go	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/23 04:30 PM
2	Dating/Sex Success for Blue Pillers The argument is that he's trumping up the role of luck and downplaying personality aka being a likeable person. As I mentioned to another user, it's not very attractive to whine that things are outside of your control and you're just unlucky.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 05:56 PM
4	Dating/Sex Success for Blue Pillers The kind of person who blames all their problems and lack of success on luck does not usually inspire attraction	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 05:20 PM
1	Dating/Sex Success for Blue Pillers Depends on what the goals of that conversation are. A lot of online discourse making the current state of dating out to be a crisis are coming from a male perspective with a tinge of conservative thinking (for example, J Peterson's call for culturally enforced monogamy). Rhetoric that conceptualizes dating as a market and sex as a transaction will tend to skew towards this sort of thinking. "The Left" broadly does have conversations about dating and sex, but the left's prescriptions tend to be r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 05:11 PM
1	Dating/Sex Success for Blue Pillers No I mean RP doesn't have a monopoly on things that impress women. Otherwise any man trying to date women would be RP and that's obviously not true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 04:54 PM
1	Dating/Sex Success for Blue Pillers Maybe it's your personality that's getting in your way	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 04:38 PM
2	Dating/Sex Success for Blue Pillers Impressing women is not RP lol. RP is not the same thing as being masculine or trying to date	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 04:33 PM
1	Dating/Sex Success for Blue Pillers The things I think that align with "Bluepill" isn't a sexual strategy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 04:31 PM
–	Rant: Men on here have not touched grass in their life. So brave	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 06:08 AM
–	Rant: Men on here have not touched grass in their life. Yeah man the women just love it when they see your irrational contempt for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 05:18 AM
–	Rant: Men on here have not touched grass in their life. Their rhetoric is objectionable no matter their actual political prospects. Red Pill and incel theories might be on the fringe of our societies, but those people will use these issues when deciding what to advocate for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 04:36 AM
–	Rant: Men on here have not touched grass in their life. They can touch grass all they want, most people's problem here is that they are misogynists and it's easy for anyone interacting with them to see it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 04:31 AM
–	Rant: Men on here have not touched grass in their life. They also want to affect change on culture and politics. If it was just venting with no inherent goal, sure, but the whining has a goal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 04:19 AM
1	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men You asked if i believed if rape didnt happen in paleolithic times. To my argument that suggested women chose the men they preffered my argument would be rape was rare. What proof do you have that rape was rare? So I think ill let you believe that you're the smartest person in the world and only you could possibly know that kublai khan was real and keprmt concubines. IDK man you're the one who said it was a movie reference. The alternative is to believe that most women where raped and we just evo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 11:42 PM
5	Women often lie or “trickle truth” because they genuinely feel like they did no wrong and victimize themselves Just pointing out your reliance on anecdata, and especially your misrepresentation of what happened with Norah.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 04:22 PM
10	Women often lie or “trickle truth” because they genuinely feel like they did no wrong and victimize themselves This is a misrepresentation of the full story of Norah, who struggled with mental health generally. What you're doing is taking a severe consequence for a person that is somewhat related to your agenda and holding it up as evidence. Missing from this are the experiences of transgender people who don't believe the same thing	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 04:16 PM
1	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men Ask yourself that question do you actually think i believe that in 300k years of human history not a single rape happened I'll explain it at length then. You wrote this: So throughout history womens family members would stand by as their daughter got raped by someone she didnt choose? to me saying: which doesn't really say anything about that man's attractiveness or whether or not the women even wanted to mate with them So, pretend you're me and try to figure out what exactly your own argument i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 06:06 AM
1	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men So throughout history womens family members would stand by as their daughter got raped by someone she didnt choose? ??? Are you saying that rape didn't happen? Correct, in an age without contaception. Sex is likely to lead to pregnancy. So women are going to be choosy of the men the sleep with. You have vast misconceptions about the power dynamics at play. Kublai Khan had something like 20 wives. Even if we take it as a given that all of those wives were there under their own free will, it says …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 03:51 AM
1	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men Again whether disgust or attractiveness why do we have twice as men female ancestors? Ok, you want to change the subject I see. Having twice as many female ancestors means that men were mating with multiple women, which doesn't really say anything about that man's attractiveness or whether or not the women even wanted to mate with them, so I don't understand why you're taking it as a fact demonstrating attractiveness thresholds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 03:10 AM
1	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men No, I wanted proof of a higher attractiveness threshold, to which you supplied evidence of a lower disgust threshold.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 02:07 AM
1	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men Why do you think women are less attracted to their male selfs while men doing this challenge are not? Could be for any number of reasons, such as the performative emotions of publishing online videos. The lack of an explanation doesn't make your explanation more sound. Also i know that attraction is likely normaly distributed because the individual constituents of what we consider facially attractive follow a bell curve. Attraction is more complex then how students rate pictures in the N=100 stu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 12:48 AM
1	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men We appear to disagree that a threshold of attractiveness is the same thing as a threshold of disgust. I say it isn't, you say it is. I've argued directly against this point with an illustration of how I see it. Being able to make sense of your opponent's arguments would require a curiosity that you don't seem to have. Instead you just want to label disagreeing with you is inherently bad faith without attempting to address the argument. we can just say " womens disgust threshold is lower and that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 11:38 PM
3	If a woman has guys friends are they all trying to get with her or are they truly friends? Yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 10:14 PM
1	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men I'm pointing out why a disgust threshold is different than an attractiveness threshold. Do you agree or disagree that women having a higher disgust tolerance would necissate that less men are attractive to them. Disagree	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 10:08 PM
8	If a woman has guys friends are they all trying to get with her or are they truly friends? The things you write: It is easier to hang out and just talk about anything without being scared of stepping into a landmine. You're not at ease in the company of women Also, girls naturally expect guys to do stuff for them because it is ingrained in their brains that men have obligations like protection and provision. And they sure will use guys for it. You ascribe natural behaviors to women because of their status as women, and your beliefs of their natural states are negative. You seem them a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 10:07 PM
1	If a woman has guys friends are they all trying to get with her or are they truly friends? Give it some time and you might be able to disappoint them with your misogyny too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 09:55 PM
10	If a woman has guys friends are they all trying to get with her or are they truly friends? I would gently suggest that the reason you don't have a lot of friendships with women is that you don't appear to particularly like them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 09:49 PM
9	If a woman has guys friends are they all trying to get with her or are they truly friends? Do you have male friends? It's like that but with a woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 09:37 PM
1	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men If you plotted the all the sandwiches from turd sandwich on a turd bun to the most delicious sandwich ever, there will be two lines: one line where the sandwich is not so disgusting as to be out of bounds of eating, and one line where you would describe everything above it as delicious. In the middle you'll have a lot of average sandwiches. If you move the disgusting line up by a hundred notches to denote greater disgust, the other line may not have moved at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 09:25 PM
3	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men A woman in going to find more men disgusting then a man is going to find a woman disgusting all things being equal. This is not similar to the claim that male attractiveness threshold is higher. A disgust threshold is not an attractiveness threshold, given that finding a person disgusting or attractive isn't binary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 08:37 PM
2	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men The threshold for male atractiveness is higher. Can you demonstrate that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 08:09 PM
1	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves You're not arguing that I should ban weed, you're arguing that I should shame people for smoking weed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 07:48 PM
2	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves You brought this up not me. The real evidence we have is that bullying has consequences opposite of what you desire. I can provide anecdotes of people killing themselves from bullying, that must mean that it's bad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 07:45 PM
1	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves The point is that it's not restricting freedom of individuals to pass restrictions on corporations to make sure our environment is healthy. It seems like you're just disagreeing with everything I say with more and more insignificant reasoning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 07:44 PM
11	If a woman has guys friends are they all trying to get with her or are they truly friends? The belief that men and women can't be friends can only be held by anti-social losers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 07:11 PM
4	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves Next you'll tell me that people have a right to drink the contaminated water in Ohio and passing legislation to increase water quality is restricting their freedom. Also I never said adult post bullying syndrome is all good but you’re being ignorant if you don’t identify benefits. The person researching it didn't mention benefits, nor does what was quoted there amount to added resilience, if anything, it increases vulnerability. All teen boys who were picked on turned out to be ceos like bill ga…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 07:06 PM
5	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves Do you know what is adult post bullying syndrome? https://www.michiganpsychologicalassociation.org/index.php?option=com_dailyplanetblog&view=entry&year=2021&month=07&day=11&id=111:the-effects-of-bullying-in-adulthood This? But deLara’s research indicates that years after being mistreated, people with adult post-bullying syndrome commonly struggle with trust and self-esteem or develop psychiatric problems. Some people experiencing APBS become people-pleasers, or rely on food, alcohol, or drugs to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 06:54 PM
4	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves As a patriotic American I believe in their right to waste their lives however they choose. Though if your intended outcome is to get people to work out, you might have a better chance of this by increasing access to fitness, encouraging people to value fitness, regulating unhealthy food additives, and so on. When all you're really committing to that outcome is shaming and bullying, it makes me think that you're just looking for an excuse to justify being a Karen all up in someone's business rath…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 06:41 PM
5	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves A wall that crumbles just by asking it basic questions	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 05:10 PM
5	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves Run away if you want to, though I'm still really curious what insults you're using that help cure homelessness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 04:46 PM
5	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves Are you asking how being skeptical of the outcomes you allege speak for themselves relates to you saying they speak for themselves? From our brief interaction I can't say I'm particularly impressed by your "outcomes".	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 04:44 PM
7	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves You said you get outcomes. So how did you help the homeless by insulting them? The first question was trying to appeal to a sense of intuitive morality that you don't seem to have. If you're willing to argue that we should be insulting each other and you're fine with that just so you aren't a hypocrite when you do it I think that speaks for itself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 04:34 PM
4	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves Oh you get outcomes? What was the insult you dished out to a homeless person that ended with getting them housed?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 04:25 PM
2	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves So you're ok if the majority of polite society calls you the dweeb that you are instead of listening to you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 04:13 PM
7	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves Ok, given that having a policy of insulting people you don't know is a bad choice, why should I not dedicate myself to shaming your hatred?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 04:02 PM
14	The way the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselves Why do you feel like these people need their feelings hurt?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 03:48 PM
14	TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive men If you photoshopped the face on the right onto a male body standing up straight and wearing fitting clothes that don't make him look small all of this would go away. Truly eye opening stuff. They're joking man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 03:46 PM
–	Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at all I speak for all your inferiors when I say that I'm just so glad that you can't seem to process human emotion or conversational english. If you could you'd truly be unstoppable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 04:58 AM
–	Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at all You guys are all very normal huh	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 04:52 AM
–	Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at all The distance granted by being behind a screen, sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 04:47 AM
–	Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at all Your theory needs to account for normal people seeking relationships too, you can't base your broad generalizations on merely your self pity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 04:29 AM
–	Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at all nothing of that would be there without sex. You are spending too much time thinking about sex, that's why you are insisting on viewing all relationships through this lens. It's not as simple as you're trying to paint it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 04:26 AM
–	Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at all So is OP, but you reduce the relationship with the other gender to just sex and discount the other stuff as friendship. Do you think you might like to share a bed with someone you love and trust and who takes care of you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 04:10 AM
–	Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at all This is what I mean about needing to get out and see people. You're falsely reducing heterosexual relationships to sex because the other things that can happen in heterosexual relationships can be done by other people, completely ignoring the human element of wanting to have sex with someone you trust, the elevated status of a spouse or life partner, wanting to build a home with someone you love, etc. Your strange claims about the unimportance of love are necessary to for your argument to make a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 04:08 AM
–	Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at all You're speaking out of both ends of your mouth here. You're saying men only want one thing and that's the only thing that women are really good for, but then your response to this is to face how people do other things as "friendship" and not related to sex. So is your point that sex is important to sex or can we argue in the bailey that is your stance against modern dating in general?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 04:02 AM
–	Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at all I can be more constructive if you like. Your thesis is that men today look mainly for sex from women because that is the only thing that women provide uniquely. Your first unqualified assumption is that men in general or as a class only really want women for sex when this is not the case. Current trends are actually pointing to people seeking meaning and commitment in interpersonal relationships as priority number one over sex. Your second unqualified assumption is that women don't have anything…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 03:53 AM
–	Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at all You need to stop theorizing about sex and actually talk to some real human people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 03:30 AM
0	How different would historical gender dynamics and modern dating be if the size/strength difference between males and females were reversed, but everything else had remained the same? Talking to those people is my specialty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 02:56 AM
2	How different would historical gender dynamics and modern dating be if the size/strength difference between males and females were reversed, but everything else had remained the same? I know, I was disagreeing with you	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 11:02 PM
0	How different would historical gender dynamics and modern dating be if the size/strength difference between males and females were reversed, but everything else had remained the same? Due to, really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 09:44 PM
-2	How different would historical gender dynamics and modern dating be if the size/strength difference between males and females were reversed, but everything else had remained the same? Men have never been freer than they are now post sexual revolution.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 06:57 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread So post whatever I want?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 05:44 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Yeah but does the food fight involve general gender politics or is it about dating. I don't mind spicy conversations but I only sort of care about dating markets	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 05:36 PM
3	Daily Community Chat Megathread Is this sub for general gender politics discussion or is it generally restricted to dating market talk	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 05:32 PM
1	How different would historical gender dynamics and modern dating be if the size/strength difference between males and females were reversed, but everything else had remained the same? Things would be similar because the primary gender role differences come down to the mechanics of reproduction. Women would still pay the high individual cost of getting pregnant and giving birth, and they would still need to be taken care of during that vulnerable time no matter how strong they were.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 05:25 PM
5	When She complains that her man is "bad at sex" I've never been stabbed before, but if I were to be stabbed I'm sure I would be able to tell it was an unpleasant experience without a point of comparison.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 04:06 PM
2	Debate outside the bubble Ya'll can dish it but can't take it. You call me everything in the book, but if I suggest the same to you I am lower than scum. Take a look in the mirror and take a deep breath.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/09/20 07:13 PM
2	Debate outside the bubble Missing from this is any acknowledgement that you could indeed be the problem. You claim I need self awareness but that's just presupposing that I am indeed the problem. The facts don't shake out that way though. You've said farewell like 10 times now. If you don't want to talk you don't have to. Your defenses and excuses are just getting weaker anyway.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/09/20 04:54 PM
2	Debate outside the bubble But I don't do that, that's just an excuse you make up to save face and manufacture a bad guy.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/09/20 04:50 AM
2	Debate outside the bubble Yeah, your point is that I should elect to give you an out for your bad behavior. Nah. Own it dude.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/09/20 04:46 AM
2	Debate outside the bubble I never complained about you being a problem of mine though. You tagged me in a different subreddit. Didn't even know who you were.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/09/20 04:43 AM
2	Debate outside the bubble See, there you are being rude again. Maybe you're the source of your problems.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/09/20 04:39 AM
2	Debate outside the bubble I'm not responsible for your reaction to disagreement.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/09/20 04:37 AM
2	Debate outside the bubble I looked at your tiers for the hell of it and you're in one thread claiming that an insulting generalization was begging for you to make it, so IDK dude maybe you're just kind of bad of following rules and people disagreeing with you tilts you enough to break them.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/09/20 03:57 AM
2	Debate outside the bubble Always nice to meet a fan. Unfortunately for you people screaming at me and blaming me for the rules they break is pretty common, so you don't ring any bells. Go wild dude.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/09/20 03:46 AM
2	Debate outside the bubble You have permission to talk about me without pinging me, but IDK who you are.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/09/20 03:40 AM
1	How social justice made me pro life. What you want those links to say and what they actually say is two different things. It doesn't make any sense to be so spiteful about this misrepresentation of a person's position. When someone else called you on this you resorted to just calling them a feminist as though it were a dirty word. If you're beyond listening to your opposition you're beyond reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/17 03:50 PM