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If you feel like you would have to be forced to be friends with women, it's clear that you don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:17 PM
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I demonstrated which parts indicate this. If you are unsure why that indicates hatred of women you can ask me specific questions but I believe I made myself clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:13 PM
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If you think any man who is platonic friends with women are lying just to seem PC, then my earlier charge stands. You hate women and don't see any real redeeming qualities in being friends with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:53 PM
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No, that's not just what you're saying. You're saying that women have no redeeming qualities when it comes to being friends with them platonically. I can’t find anything interesting when it comes to being platonic friends with women This indicates a dislike of women. If you can't see them as people who you could possibly be friends with then the issue is you, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:45 PM
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If you hate women and only are interested in them if there is the prospect of sleeping with them then the issue is you, not women's capacity to be worthy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:38 PM
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No, it's me saying the idea that men hinge their sense of masculinity on impressing particular women is not the fault of those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:00 PM
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and say women can't help being unattracted to xyz? I didn't say that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:25 PM
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You seem to be agreeing with me without realizing it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:57 PM
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Y'all so emotional
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:12 AM
0

That's a diverse band.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:41 PM
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Tate doesn't say that though. Tates misogyny is his thoughts on the inherent nature of women. You have a problem arguing in good faith? Are your ideas so weak you have to field these idiotic attacks rather than actual arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:40 PM
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I responded to it by dismissing it. Women only enforce hegemonic masculinity in this way in so far as you want to contort yourself to fit their expectations. You're in the driver's seat bud. Your problems are from within.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:13 PM
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Discrimination isn't when a woman won't sleep with you because you fell in the shower lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:00 PM
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they do hinge their masculinity on women in general being attracted to them. Yeah, that's toxic and it's not women's fault for being attracted to xyz
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:53 PM
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A woman heads to the public square and shouts "I am unattracted to men who trip in the shower". The only way this amounts to toxic masculinity is if you hinge masculinity on this woman being attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:06 PM
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The internet does affect real life. You are blind if you don't see that I never argued otherwise. Indeed, I think that the internet is reflective of our values. That's why when the manosphere dedicates a lot of time fear mongering about the fall of western civilization because some high schooler made fun of short men, I take it as a statement of their real values. Our major difference it seems is who we think the problem is here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:54 PM
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Yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:46 PM
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OP's point would be that some women expressing a preference for masculine men represents a driving force for toxic masculinity, which is different than the mere observation that they prefer masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:25 PM
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I don't see how this addresses anything I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:23 PM
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Icks are preferences phrased in the negative. The preference being expressed is vaguely for masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:15 PM
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Even when you used quotations and said "bad things are bad", you couldn't bring yourself to say that toxic women are bad. I'm just telling you what the issue is. I admit that toxic women are bad. However the problem is that we disagree whether or not women are being toxic in this case. I'm pointing that out because just agreeing that toxic women are bad without qualification seems like I'm agreeing with your hidden premise that these women are actually being toxic. I hope that clears it up for y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:12 PM
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I've been around long enough to see misogyny online pre Andrew Tate. Tate was just the latest personification of it of an endless cycle of feminist wins and misogynistic backlash that goes like this: Women gain ground in society Men have a crisis of masculinity Men begin to spiral around figures that represent a resurgance of their lost standing, and obviously these tend to be not the greatest role models. People blame 3 on 1 because they are unreasonably sympathetic to 2. Rinse and repeat
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:05 PM
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I think you have it backwards: a woman talking on tiktok about her icks is stating her preferences. For example, if a woman is saying that she is only attracted to jealous types or whatever, this does not contribute to toxic masculinity. What contributes to toxic masculinity are guys who look at that and decide that impressing this particular woman is worth changing their personality for or taking it as a decree from all women to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:59 PM
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Because you're not formulating the argument correctly. "Bad things are bad" is an easy concession, sure, but that comes loaded with the assumption that the topic we're talking about is accurately described as a "bad thing".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:53 PM
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I did not say 18 year old women posting on tiktok were being toxic. The biggest problem in this exchange are the men putting targets on their own backs and making it everyone else's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:44 PM
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Examples of what? What do you suppose a girl talking about her icks on tiktok says about anything and what response does it warrant?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:39 PM
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No, access also means legality. Abortion rights post Roe V Wade are highly restricted in a number of states. You are free to argue that this is a good policy, but I don't like your chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:37 PM
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I do not support older/wiser women shaming 18 yo for talking about height preferences on tiktok. The more important part of this equation to change are the people who are making a concerted effort to drag these girls. when 30 something year old men are telling young/unwise teenage and young adult men that “this is how all women are”, there has to be a balancing force. The balancing force is not to capitulate to their narrative about women. They are wrong. Call them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:28 PM
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exactly what manosphere creators mine and use for their content. Exactly, they mine it. No amount of perfect behavior on the part of women will lead to people who hate them being unable to criticize them. The manosphere loves to trump up what they see as bad behavior (again, being shallow online is normal and not a gender crime) so that they can post hoc rationalize their already held beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:22 PM
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I know your point. Ultimately the manosphere creators and consumers do take the most blame here, but it isn’t about pointing fingers. But that's what your post is doing. You're saying that the behavior of these girls on tiktok justifies the response of manosphere creators. Using social media to talk about your (shallow) preferences is completely normal. What is not normal is to take that, blow it up as if that is the position of all women, and then use it fear monger about the fall of western ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:11 PM
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Yes. Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:02 PM
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The 30 year old men in the manosphere whining about 18 year old girls being shallow on tiktok is not the girls fault
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:59 PM
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The most objectionable part of your policy is the opt in issue. If you insist on not defending that, then how strong can that idea really be?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:46 AM
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presumably ‘Plan B’ is not too onerous? Either financially, nor availability wise? You have to be over 17 to purchase it and it is not widely available. It is also not an alternative to abortion rights. If your policy is that fathers needs to be negotiated into opting into child support, that will obviously take time. If it takes longer than six weeks you are SOL in many US states. Is this preferable to 100% knowing where you stand? When making such a life altering decision? But that's not the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:44 AM
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Go for it, I'm posting publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:30 AM
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Your opinion has been registered.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:28 AM
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I know, there is nothing to counter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:25 AM
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Not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:23 AM
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So it is about men's comfort. In another thread you're swearing up and down that it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:38 PM
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Women already have an unfair amount of responsibility on them to raise the next generation. Your scheme here would result in more childhood poverty. Women have autonomy on paper but: We do not live in a world where abortion is accessible and affordable The choice you're laying at women's feet by absolving men of responsibility is to abort the baby knowing there will be no support (in this economy, no less) or not aborting the baby and then having to raise the child with no support.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:24 PM
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We shouldn't have to control our gazes. Why is that uncomfortable for men to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:15 PM
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It is semantics to quibble over whether something qualifies as staring or glancing to distract from the point that whatever you called the behavior it was making them uncomfortable. It's not men's comfort that is at issue here, it's women's. You're arguing for men's comfort to ogle women. I know you don't frame it like that because it makes your argument look like shit but that's what you're doing. I have no bias against women. Yes you do. When women complain about being ogled at in public, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:12 PM
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I really don't care about the semantics about it as much as you do. Insisting on arguing them is just further demonstrating your inability or unwillingness to listen. And the world doesn't owe anyone comfort. You seem to think so though. You are of the belief that men can't control their eyes and that it is only natural for them to be checking out women in public. You're privileging their comfort and ability to ogle people in public over other's right to complain about that. I have a feeling mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:03 PM
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"This guy staring at me is making me uncomfortable" isn't a lie. You going on an unhinged rant about whether it qualifies as staring smacks of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:29 PM
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The point is that instead of hearing what people have been saying re:being looked at in public you're complaining about their word choice. You need to do a better job listening bud
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:18 PM
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I left you another comment regarding the buffoonery on display over your semantics that addresses this. Your argument is that men can't help it. If that's true, men are babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:10 PM
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We can't even help it, most of the time. You are a whole baby if you do not have the self control not to stare at women in public
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:59 PM
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Women on the train: "This guy was staring at me and it made me uncomfortable" Men on this sub, tripping over their undone pants and falling face first exposing their whole ass: "Um, actually, what he was doing was not staring because it was not prolonged per se. As you can clearly see he breaks his gaze over multiple intervals. What he is doing is GLANCING or CHECKING YOU OUT, so clearly it is unreasonable for you to be uncomfortable"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:54 PM
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The only acceptable conditions for legal parental surrender are: total respect for abortion rights with no limits a high guaranteed level of support for children. I'm talking guaranteed high quality nutrition, education, health and child care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:45 PM
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I don't disagree. You'll live. The point is that it's rude, and when you're in public there are a set of social norms that people uphold for the comfort of others. You are talking about limiting someone's gaze I'm saying what people should do and defending people's rights to film people who are leering at them. I don't know what you're construing as "limiting". Suggesting that you should not swear in front of children is not limiting your free speech either. You on the other hand are asking for …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:41 PM
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If it's just their eyeballs, then yes exactly. What baffles me is how anyone can argue against that. You can fart in a crowded elevator too. It's just their gas, what's the big deal? They are free to be as upset as they want without lamenting on social media. By what right do you limit their free speech? You implied men who were saying those comments (about the videos in the other thread op mentioned) all view woman as property or some bullshit like that. I'm replying to men suggesting that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:19 PM
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I thought there was no expectation of privacy in public? How can it be acceptable to leer at women and unacceptable to film men leering at you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:17 PM
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I thought there was no expectation of privacy in public? It seems like you have it two ways: Women have no expectation not to be leered at in public Men who leer at women should be able to expect to do this without being called out publicly. My explanation for how you can believe these two things at the same time is chauvinism. What other explanation is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:13 PM
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A person calling another creepy for leering at them is not saying they are breaking any laws, they are saying they are breaking social norms. You suggest a new norm: What's out in public is to be seen, by everyone. To make it seem like the above situation is not happening, but we all know it's impolite to leer at people in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:04 PM
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I don't care what they wear, be it a burka or a bikini. Whatever they wear, they have no right to police peoples eyeballs. They need to get over themselves. Right, this is what I'm talking about. The argument is that women are in public and whatever men decide to do with them with their eyeballs is free reign. Your view would cover anything from stealing glances at them to leering at them, and women are not entitled to be upset about this because their bodies are in public and men want to look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:12 PM
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If your response to a woman saying she is uncomfortable with men staring at them is to tell them to wear a burka and to deal with it, then you absolutely believe women exist for your pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:06 PM
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I don't stare at women in public because it's rude and everyone knows this. Same as 1. No. The reaction you're pointing out is the reaction of a spoiled kid getting their candy taken away. The reason you're getting all of this bluster from men blaming women for essentially existing in public is because they actually think that women exist for their pleasure and they are offended that you would even have an opinion on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:48 PM
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Well it is unironically because God made it that way LMAO OP didn't mention Evo psyche they simply mentioned evolution/biology/nature which is last time I checked a thing that definitely exists. It doesn't matter to my point. OP still needs to do the work of their exercise and make sure they aren't telling just-so stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:56 AM
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Feet has a wiki man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:34 AM
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If you're claiming that they have good evidence isn't it on you to show that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 01:15 AM
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I told you to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:59 PM
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Be honest now, would you sum up red pill and incel ideology as "women like tall attractive powerful men".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:01 PM
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Counter evidence to what? All you did was assert that they had more evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:41 PM
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Incels cherry pick research to justify already held beliefs. The amount of time they dedicate to this process does not make their conspiracy theories actually more valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:31 PM
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You're welcome to make an argument to that effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:26 PM
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The incels and redpillers are a minority of conspiracy theorists who are spinning a narrative that doesn't survive real world applications.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:50 PM
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Similarly, I can justify any double standard by explaining that god made it that way. When doing your exercise you need to make sure that you aren't telling just-so stories. Evolutionary psychology in particular loves to look at particular behaviors and cook up post hoc explanations for how this behavior is arrived at through evolutionary processes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:44 PM
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I'm asking you to relate it to sexual politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:36 PM
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I'm just asking you to relate what you're saying to the topic it at hand. If that's too scary for you I guess I don't really care to know what your opinion is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:34 PM
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That doesn't really explain anything for me. What about money?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:55 PM
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Like what
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:30 PM
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It's not dishonest at all. People's preferences depend on their values. The reason it spirals into a moral argument is that when people share those preferences based on their values and they are attacked for it, they have to relate it back to their values in order to explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:30 PM
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Sexual politics reflect gender politics, which is what this is. It's not merely stating a preference. What you have on here are sets of descriptive ideas about the nature of men and women. These are statements like "Women are hypergamous", "Men are the pursuer, women are the pursued", or "Men need regular sex to be fulfilled" or any other number of statements claiming fact about how things are. On top of that, there are prescriptions for how society should align itself given these 'facts'. Usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:14 PM
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I mean as a man that's what it sounds like to me too. I'm sure all sorts of people would love to claim that their stances and understanding of reality come from logical conclusions. The truth is that the red pill is just as emotional as anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:08 PM
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Nuhuh, in so many words
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:50 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:06 AM
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What am I supposed to be shaken by here? You aren't presenting arguments, you're stomping around and whining that I'm an ideologue for talking about my point of view. Should I be impressed by your big displays of emotion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:58 AM
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Why don't you calm down and come back when you're ready to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:53 AM
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I don't think you're saying anything, really. It is trying to coexist with it. Each profiting off the other. This is what you said. If this doesn't mean "feminism is trying to ally itself with patriarchy" then you aren't even paying attention to the words coming out of your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:48 AM
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Anyone can label themselves a feminist, that doesn't mean that they do so coherently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:43 AM
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I think its more weakminded to strawman all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:42 AM
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So many crack pot theories come from anti-feminism. I've heard patriarchy doesn't exist and it exists but its good, but this is the first time I've heard Patriarchy exists but its actually an ally of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:40 AM
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Sounds like some people agree with me then. But it has not thing to do with conservatism. Sounds like a you thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:07 AM
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You're caricaturizing the kind of person who says this. I want to know what you get out of that. Is it an ego thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:29 AM
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You didn't answer
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:32 PM
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What do you get out of this caricature
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:47 PM
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Great example thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:30 PM
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It's not a me thing, the concept is used often in conservative politics. The Wikipedia page for the red pill has lots of examples of the red pill in political, racial, and economic contexts. If that's not how you mean red pilled, fair enough but understanding how I mean it should help you understand what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:00 PM
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For example, inherently biasing the idea of male leadership and being biased against women in roles of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:55 PM
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Red pill has become more than the sexual strategy forum on Reddit. Red pilled has come to mean an awakening on many topics, and especially awakening to "not politically correct truths" about people who aren't straight white conservative men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:42 PM
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Yes there is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:31 PM
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A system that tends to put power in the hands of males
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:31 PM
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Yeah have you seen the definition of patriarchy before? It just means eldest male in a given society has the power and control That's its usage in anthropology. In feminist analysis it describes the distribution of power in gender dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:12 PM
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I'm talking about patriarchy. That's the one ideology I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:08 PM
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No ideology passes the bar of being unable to be co opted. You're confusing anyone's claim or what feminism to be with what feminism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:07 PM
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The ideology is both logical and consistent. You might object to it but that doesn't make it incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:01 PM
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The coherent ideology in question is patriarchy. You'll find that ideology though out feminisms despite differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:56 PM
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If you have specific questions to aid in your education let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:54 PM
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Ok, then you need to recognize criticism of a given thing is not inherently support of its opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:53 PM
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The coherent ideology is patriarchy. You might have specific issues with facts justifying it but it is both logical and consistent. Anti-feminism has been around far longer than the red pill and isn't based on nonsense like the red pill is. Anti feminism/=the red pill The parts off the red pill that is relevant to this argument is its status as an anti-feminist ideology. No. The red pill is primarily an independent grift designed suck money out of low socioeconomic status and low esteem men. Its…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:52 PM
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You need to calm down before we can talk about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:45 PM
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No, patriarchy would be the idea about how power is distributed, dismantling the patriarchy (the most popular prescription) is about removing the system that distributes power unequally, not inventing a system that grants the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:34 PM
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People live in comfort of their hegemonic identities and privileged spaces blind to the reality of the world overwhelmingly. No those people are redpilled against attempts to dismantle a hegemony they like. If your only standard for red pill is the belief that you are awake and others sleep, no one really believes otherwise. You are the one who said that redpill means conservative. What exactly are we conserving? Conservative doesn't mean "a desire to conserve" plainly either. Conservative means…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:13 PM
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We're all redpilled then, making the label meaningless. That's clearly not how most people mean it. People not calling feminism red pilled is not because they are bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:02 PM
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The red pill is not plainly "seeing past prescriptions to some greater truth". If that's what it was every political position would be red pill when that's clearly not what is meant by it. Red pill means conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:56 PM
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That doesn't sound right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:50 PM
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We're not talking about anyone in particular. Some people do self criticize in addition to this, and some don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:42 PM
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Feminism has a coherent ideology with regards to distribution of power. Anti-feminisn (the red pill) reacts to the spreading of that ideology by claiming what it supposes gives those arguments weight: claiming to be victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:35 PM
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I'm not sure what you're asking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:15 PM
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The Red Pill's one and only overarching belief is that the world is lying to itself and a minority of bold truth tellers are speaking plainly about how it actually is. This idea is used mostly to talk about generally counter-culture conservative leaning opinions. So-called sex-realsim, gender-realism, sometimes race-realism and capitalist realism all packaged into that one scene from the matrix where a person wakes up and sees the world how it truly is while everyone else takes the blue pill and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:25 PM
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Same reason as an incel insulting women. People who feel wronged shift the blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:11 PM
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A person saying "where are all the good men" is complaining about their situation, probably complaining about a string of bad partners. They aren't necessarily making a population level statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:07 PM
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I wouldn't listen to anything redpill has to say about women. Its only good advice is its most banal: taking care of yourself and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:05 PM
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Like most manosphere anti-feminist rhetoric, it's to fear monger about a genocide that isn't happening perpetrated by authoritarians that live in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:00 PM
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Female mental patients were also subject to hysterectomies
/r/MensRights29/08/23 03:38 PM
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Well, there you go
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:30 PM
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The argument is that he's trumping up the role of luck and downplaying personality aka being a likeable person. As I mentioned to another user, it's not very attractive to whine that things are outside of your control and you're just unlucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:56 PM
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The kind of person who blames all their problems and lack of success on luck does not usually inspire attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:20 PM
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Depends on what the goals of that conversation are. A lot of online discourse making the current state of dating out to be a crisis are coming from a male perspective with a tinge of conservative thinking (for example, J Peterson's call for culturally enforced monogamy). Rhetoric that conceptualizes dating as a market and sex as a transaction will tend to skew towards this sort of thinking. "The Left" broadly does have conversations about dating and sex, but the left's prescriptions tend to be r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:11 PM
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No I mean RP doesn't have a monopoly on things that impress women. Otherwise any man trying to date women would be RP and that's obviously not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:54 PM
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Maybe it's your personality that's getting in your way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:38 PM
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Impressing women is not RP lol. RP is not the same thing as being masculine or trying to date
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:33 PM
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The things I think that align with "Bluepill" isn't a sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:31 PM
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So brave
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:08 AM
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Yeah man the women just love it when they see your irrational contempt for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:18 AM
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Their rhetoric is objectionable no matter their actual political prospects. Red Pill and incel theories might be on the fringe of our societies, but those people will use these issues when deciding what to advocate for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:36 AM
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They can touch grass all they want, most people's problem here is that they are misogynists and it's easy for anyone interacting with them to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:31 AM
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They also want to affect change on culture and politics. If it was just venting with no inherent goal, sure, but the whining has a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:19 AM
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Just pointing out your reliance on anecdata, and especially your misrepresentation of what happened with Norah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 04:22 PM
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This is a misrepresentation of the full story of Norah, who struggled with mental health generally. What you're doing is taking a severe consequence for a person that is somewhat related to your agenda and holding it up as evidence. Missing from this are the experiences of transgender people who don't believe the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 04:16 PM
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I'm pointing out why a disgust threshold is different than an attractiveness threshold. Do you agree or disagree that women having a higher disgust tolerance would necissate that less men are attractive to them. Disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:08 PM
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The things you write: It is easier to hang out and just talk about anything without being scared of stepping into a landmine. You're not at ease in the company of women Also, girls naturally expect guys to do stuff for them because it is ingrained in their brains that men have obligations like protection and provision. And they sure will use guys for it. You ascribe natural behaviors to women because of their status as women, and your beliefs of their natural states are negative. You seem them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:07 PM
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Give it some time and you might be able to disappoint them with your misogyny too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:55 PM
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I would gently suggest that the reason you don't have a lot of friendships with women is that you don't appear to particularly like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:49 PM
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Do you have male friends? It's like that but with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:37 PM
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If you plotted the all the sandwiches from turd sandwich on a turd bun to the most delicious sandwich ever, there will be two lines: one line where the sandwich is not so disgusting as to be out of bounds of eating, and one line where you would describe everything above it as delicious. In the middle you'll have a lot of average sandwiches. If you move the disgusting line up by a hundred notches to denote greater disgust, the other line may not have moved at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:25 PM
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A woman in going to find more men disgusting then a man is going to find a woman disgusting all things being equal. This is not similar to the claim that male attractiveness threshold is higher. A disgust threshold is not an attractiveness threshold, given that finding a person disgusting or attractive isn't binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:37 PM
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The threshold for male atractiveness is higher. Can you demonstrate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:09 PM
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You brought this up not me. The real evidence we have is that bullying has consequences opposite of what you desire. I can provide anecdotes of people killing themselves from bullying, that must mean that it's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:45 PM
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The point is that it's not restricting freedom of individuals to pass restrictions on corporations to make sure our environment is healthy. It seems like you're just disagreeing with everything I say with more and more insignificant reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:44 PM
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The belief that men and women can't be friends can only be held by anti-social losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:11 PM
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Next you'll tell me that people have a right to drink the contaminated water in Ohio and passing legislation to increase water quality is restricting their freedom. Also I never said adult post bullying syndrome is all good but you’re being ignorant if you don’t identify benefits. The person researching it didn't mention benefits, nor does what was quoted there amount to added resilience, if anything, it increases vulnerability. All teen boys who were picked on turned out to be ceos like bill ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:06 PM
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Do you know what is adult post bullying syndrome? https://www.michiganpsychologicalassociation.org/index.php?option=com_dailyplanetblog&view=entry&year=2021&month=07&day=11&id=111:the-effects-of-bullying-in-adulthood This? But deLara’s research indicates that years after being mistreated, people with adult post-bullying syndrome commonly struggle with trust and self-esteem or develop psychiatric problems. Some people experiencing APBS become people-pleasers, or rely on food, alcohol, or drugs to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:54 PM
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As a patriotic American I believe in their right to waste their lives however they choose. Though if your intended outcome is to get people to work out, you might have a better chance of this by increasing access to fitness, encouraging people to value fitness, regulating unhealthy food additives, and so on. When all you're really committing to that outcome is shaming and bullying, it makes me think that you're just looking for an excuse to justify being a Karen all up in someone's business rath…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:41 PM
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You said you get outcomes. So how did you help the homeless by insulting them? The first question was trying to appeal to a sense of intuitive morality that you don't seem to have. If you're willing to argue that we should be insulting each other and you're fine with that just so you aren't a hypocrite when you do it I think that speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:34 PM
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Oh you get outcomes? What was the insult you dished out to a homeless person that ended with getting them housed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:25 PM
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So you're ok if the majority of polite society calls you the dweeb that you are instead of listening to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:13 PM
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Ok, given that having a policy of insulting people you don't know is a bad choice, why should I not dedicate myself to shaming your hatred?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:02 PM
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Why do you feel like these people need their feelings hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:48 PM
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If you photoshopped the face on the right onto a male body standing up straight and wearing fitting clothes that don't make him look small all of this would go away. Truly eye opening stuff. They're joking man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:46 PM
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I speak for all your inferiors when I say that I'm just so glad that you can't seem to process human emotion or conversational english. If you could you'd truly be unstoppable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:58 AM
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You guys are all very normal huh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:52 AM
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The distance granted by being behind a screen, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:47 AM
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Your theory needs to account for normal people seeking relationships too, you can't base your broad generalizations on merely your self pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:29 AM
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nothing of that would be there without sex. You are spending too much time thinking about sex, that's why you are insisting on viewing all relationships through this lens. It's not as simple as you're trying to paint it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:26 AM
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So is OP, but you reduce the relationship with the other gender to just sex and discount the other stuff as friendship. Do you think you might like to share a bed with someone you love and trust and who takes care of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:10 AM
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This is what I mean about needing to get out and see people. You're falsely reducing heterosexual relationships to sex because the other things that can happen in heterosexual relationships can be done by other people, completely ignoring the human element of wanting to have sex with someone you trust, the elevated status of a spouse or life partner, wanting to build a home with someone you love, etc. Your strange claims about the unimportance of love are necessary to for your argument to make a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:08 AM
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You're speaking out of both ends of your mouth here. You're saying men only want one thing and that's the only thing that women are really good for, but then your response to this is to face how people do other things as "friendship" and not related to sex. So is your point that sex is important to sex or can we argue in the bailey that is your stance against modern dating in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:02 AM
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I can be more constructive if you like. Your thesis is that men today look mainly for sex from women because that is the only thing that women provide uniquely. Your first unqualified assumption is that men in general or as a class only really want women for sex when this is not the case. Current trends are actually pointing to people seeking meaning and commitment in interpersonal relationships as priority number one over sex. Your second unqualified assumption is that women don't have anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:53 AM
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You need to stop theorizing about sex and actually talk to some real human people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:30 AM
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Talking to those people is my specialty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:56 AM
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I know, I was disagreeing with you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:02 PM
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Due to, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:44 PM
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Men have never been freer than they are now post sexual revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:57 PM
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Things would be similar because the primary gender role differences come down to the mechanics of reproduction. Women would still pay the high individual cost of getting pregnant and giving birth, and they would still need to be taken care of during that vulnerable time no matter how strong they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:25 PM
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I've never been stabbed before, but if I were to be stabbed I'm sure I would be able to tell it was an unpleasant experience without a point of comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:06 PM
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Ya'll can dish it but can't take it. You call me everything in the book, but if I suggest the same to you I am lower than scum. Take a look in the mirror and take a deep breath.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 07:13 PM
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Missing from this is any acknowledgement that you could indeed be the problem. You claim I need self awareness but that's just presupposing that I am indeed the problem. The facts don't shake out that way though. You've said farewell like 10 times now. If you don't want to talk you don't have to. Your defenses and excuses are just getting weaker anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 04:54 PM
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But I don't do that, that's just an excuse you make up to save face and manufacture a bad guy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 04:50 AM
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Yeah, your point is that I should elect to give you an out for your bad behavior. Nah. Own it dude.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 04:46 AM
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I never complained about you being a problem of mine though. You tagged me in a different subreddit. Didn't even know who you were.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 04:43 AM
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See, there you are being rude again. Maybe you're the source of your problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 04:39 AM
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I'm not responsible for your reaction to disagreement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 04:37 AM
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I looked at your tiers for the hell of it and you're in one thread claiming that an insulting generalization was begging for you to make it, so IDK dude maybe you're just kind of bad of following rules and people disagreeing with you tilts you enough to break them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 03:57 AM
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Always nice to meet a fan. Unfortunately for you people screaming at me and blaming me for the rules they break is pretty common, so you don't ring any bells. Go wild dude.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 03:46 AM
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You have permission to talk about me without pinging me, but IDK who you are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 03:40 AM
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What you want those links to say and what they actually say is two different things. It doesn't make any sense to be so spiteful about this misrepresentation of a person's position. When someone else called you on this you resorted to just calling them a feminist as though it were a dirty word. If you're beyond listening to your opposition you're beyond reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 03:50 PM
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