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1	Christianity and Outcome Independence Your theory says that all adaptive changes in populations are accomplished by way of random mutation and natural selection. Not really. Specifically, all evolution requires is genetic change over time. That said, there's no other mechanism that has ever been demonstrated to allow permanent change over time. Epigenetic changes are, as we've discussed, only ever temporary and conditional. Genetic change is not so. You will not be able to find me one legitimate scientific source that will include H…	/r/MarriedRedPill	10/04/17 02:10 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence there are plenty of researchers who disagree None who are taken seriously. See, Evolutionary Theory is the foundation upon which all our current understanding of Biology is based. Anyone who thinks otherwise is, to be blunt, on the lunatic fringe. pass information around Yes yes, we know all about horizontal gene transfer, that's part of Evolutionary Theory. there are others who even suggest that bacteria are sentient, mindful organisms. They are idiots. If you're seriously willing to believe th…	/r/MarriedRedPill	09/04/17 04:55 AM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence sure there is. could be epigenetic. Gene expression. ...We've had highways for ~60 years now. If this were really epigenetic in nature, we'd have noticed it much sooner than now, not 60 generations down the line. It is, however, about right for an evolutionary change of this magnitude (small), where birds with larger wingspans were almost universally killed in every generation, the smaller-winged birds would become dominant. We see the same level of change when artificially selecting animals or …	/r/MarriedRedPill	07/04/17 01:53 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence what is scientific is that individuals change in response to environmental contingencies.....what is not scientific is that "only populations evolve" via natural selection plus random variation. You're equating two completely different things. Epigenetics and Evolution are apples and... I wouldn't even say Oranges, they're too close. Apples and Steaks. The issue here is that the vast majority, if not all, of the known adaptive morphological changes that happen in individuals are changes that get…	/r/MarriedRedPill	07/04/17 01:46 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence where exactly is the random mutations that caused the wings to be different lengths? I don't know that we've ever sequenced the sparrow's genome to be able to pinpoint the specific mutation - but there's no other explanation. You simply seem to have a problem understanding how such things come to be. check this out Irrelevant: sparrows growing up around cars (as they tend to build their nests in overpasses) aren't scared of cars. No dumb luck. No selection. Wrong: the very mechanism that causes …	/r/MarriedRedPill	06/04/17 02:21 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence as if those happen via dumb luck More argument from incredulity fallacy. see here's the thing: mind is extrapolated into body. Now you're veering in to pseudo-scientific nonsense. No, I give the creator credit for the stuff he created. Cancer and other assorted 'bad' stuff is the result of the fall See, you just did exactly what I said: you're crediting your "creator" with only the good stuff. When epigenetics causes harmful effects, that's not your creator, but when it causes good stuff, it's s…	/r/MarriedRedPill	06/04/17 02:15 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence somehow the awareness of/interaction with predators Stress hormones. of all the trillions of possibilities, they just HAPPENED... More argument from incredulity fallacy. Besides which, epigenetic changes aren't always beneficial either: they can cause heart disease, addiction, mental illness, and other terrible effects too - I suppose the same intelligence caused that shit too? Or are you going to pull the typical creationist tactic and only credit the "creator" with the good stuff while conveni…	/r/MarriedRedPill	05/04/17 11:26 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence And that's the key -- evolution has never allowed such a thing Evolution would select for such an ability, though, for obvious reasons. Epigenetics isn't counter to Evolution, it's just another genetic trait that can be selected for/against by selection filters. It's literally not even in the same category as Evolution because the change isn't permanent, and in the cases where it is heritable such heritability is limited because it always depends on environmental factors. this cannot be chalked …	/r/MarriedRedPill	05/04/17 11:12 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence It's yet another alternative to the theory of evolution. No, it isn't - it's a temporary expression of an existing trait that exists in DNA. It's just a feature of genetic expression, that's it. You're completely misunderstanding what it is. The Theory of Evolution describes Why and How life changes over time (the FACT of Evolution), and Natural Selection is just one of several mechanisms behind that. Edit: Epigenetics, on the other hand, is just a temporary change of how genes that already exis…	/r/MarriedRedPill	05/04/17 04:30 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence The layman's version is that, due to environmental factors that one generation is exposed to, the subsequent generation can have dormant DNA expression activated. A great example is the water flea: when a mother experiences danger from a predator during her life, her children (as a result of stress hormone in her body) will have little armored helmets. It's still acting upon DNA, it's just activating an inactive trait. So no, individuals cannot adapt to the environment on the fly: the next gener…	/r/MarriedRedPill	05/04/17 04:12 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence That's epigenetics again. You don't actually understand what epigenetics is, do you?	/r/MarriedRedPill	05/04/17 03:56 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence I say origins of variation is nonrandom and probably miraculous in nature. Well gee, it's a good thing the Lederberg showed that they're random. If you ever bothered to understand the experiment itself, you'd realize that. Here, this is a breakdown that uses small words. Selection is not really nonrandom either in real life Of course it is: variation is random, as mutations are random, but natural selection is the non-random filter through which mutations must pass in order to survive to be pass…	/r/MarriedRedPill	05/04/17 03:37 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence at best lederberg thing just showed that variation previously existed rather than arising in response to the environment. THAT'S EXACTLY HOW NATURAL SELECTION WORKS YOU DOLT!! What part of "Non-random survival of random mutations" do you not understand? Yes, if there's not some pre-existing mutation that can survive an environmental shift, the population will go extinct - and guess what? The fossil record is full of extinctions. Previously-existing does not equate to randomness Just how do you s…	/r/MarriedRedPill	05/04/17 03:07 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence noticed you avoided my point about how deleting and disabling coded elements is not new information. I did not - look at my last point, where I specifically addressed that. Edit: Information Theory looks at a much bigger picture than you do. From a population-dynamics viewpoint, that is absolutely new information: only through experimentation can a random mutation's effect on an organism's fitness be determined. Thus, nature (and I'm anthropomorphizing here) has a harsh new data-point: this muta…	/r/MarriedRedPill	05/04/17 01:27 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence Increases in variety are certainly NOT increases in information. As I suspected, you don't know jack shit about Information Theory: you're dead wrong. you are obviously clueless as to the argument of behe and others in the ID movement. On the contrary, I'm quite aware of how thoroughly Behe and his ilk were utterly defeated in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District. Their best arguments... ruined. but often (almost always?) this is characterized by a deletion or disabling of a functional eleme…	/r/MarriedRedPill	05/04/17 04:23 AM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence Every paper he shared showed exactly that, you buffoon. Increases in variety ARE increases in information. Novel genetic material IS new information. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you don't know jack shit about Information Theory - something that's my bread and butter - so why don't you just admit that you're a hapless nit-wit and that you're either unwilling or unable to understand the material so you can get back to bashing rocks together, or whatever it is that morons do with t…	/r/MarriedRedPill	05/04/17 12:48 AM
2	Christianity and Outcome Independence How about I show you every mutation that created the bacterial flagellum - a new and novel structure on its own, and for which each precursor step also had its own novel and unique function. Because we know each and every one. Michael Behe tried to use the Bacterial Flagellum as part of his argument for irreducible complexity... obviously, he was arguing from the same place as you are: abject ignorance.	/r/MarriedRedPill	04/04/17 03:02 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence I asked you about the cell forming. What part of "So, get an imperfectly replicating polynucleotide chain inside a lipid micelle, and you have a basic protocell" did you not understand?	/r/MarriedRedPill	04/04/17 01:46 PM
1	Christianity and Outcome Independence Oh hey, you did reply to me, you just don't know how to hit the right reply button... Why is this a common theme among creationists?	/r/MarriedRedPill	01/04/17 12:18 AM
2	Christianity and Outcome Independence ...you don't know what "Word Salad" means, do you? Because this doesn't fit the definition. It's a very specific and detailed explanation of both what "Fine Tuning" is, and why it's only an issue in your head.	/r/MarriedRedPill	30/03/17 07:23 PM