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| 1 | This is how they fucking work to undermine the MRM. They spread misinformation and make false associations. I'm so fucking tired of seeing this kind of dishonest bullshit.Here's your problem - you keep referring to what the victim considers to be coerced or not coerced, as if you have any fucking way of drawing any reasonable conclusion as to what a victim might, or might not, consider coerced or not coerced. Self reporting is not evidence None of this is relevant to whether or not the statistic was used correctly, but fair enough - even if you're right, and we should put an end to collecting statistics about the victims perception of sexual abuse, it doesn't cha… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/14 09:40 AM |
| 1 | This is how they fucking work to undermine the MRM. They spread misinformation and make false associations. I'm so fucking tired of seeing this kind of dishonest bullshit.What? What the fuck are you talking about? This is fucking troll nonsense. If we accept your black and white view of sexuality and your premise that most women are heterosexual (which is entirely up for debate) then would it not follow that most men are also heterosexual? I'm not making assumptions about individuals sexuality, but the sexuality of men as a group. It is estimated that about 5% of men in the USA are homosexual - thus we can expect the proportion in the juvenile system to be simila… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/14 10:47 PM |
| 1 | This is how they fucking work to undermine the MRM. They spread misinformation and make false associations. I'm so fucking tired of seeing this kind of dishonest bullshit.(Considered by the victim, as it says in the report you should really actually read if you're going to use it to make a point) You have it backwards - it's not that sexual contact between a man and a girl is more likely to be uncoerced, it is that sexual contact that the victim considers to be uncoerced (again, the victim, not the justice system or the detention centre or you or I) is more likely to be with a man due to the fact that most women are straight, and as such would inherently consider… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/14 01:19 PM |
| 1 | This is how they fucking work to undermine the MRM. They spread misinformation and make false associations. I'm so fucking tired of seeing this kind of dishonest bullshit.Actually she is insisting on the misleading use of statistics Read the report - make up your own mind. There is a lot to be outraged about in it, it is definitely not an issue to be handwaved away. It just does not say what the "95%" statistic implies. In fact, it outright states 'uncoerced' while the authors statistic says 'attacked/coerced.' I have elaborated more on why it is misleading in reply to another guy, but basically the author has taken ONE indicator and implied it applies to ALL ind… | /r/MensRights | 19/06/14 05:12 PM |
| 2 | This is how they fucking work to undermine the MRM. They spread misinformation and make false associations. I'm so fucking tired of seeing this kind of dishonest bullshit.THERE IS NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE between coerced and non-coerced sex in a fucking prison! First off, it is not what I, you, Mercier or the people who wrote the report consider to be uncoerced - it is what the victims of abuse consider to be coerced, and as such inherently includes their perception of the event. Of course a healthy sexual relationship can never develop between a juvenile detainee and an adult staff member - this does not mean that all sexual relationships must be lumped in together… | /r/MensRights | 19/06/14 05:02 PM |
| 1 | This is how they fucking work to undermine the MRM. They spread misinformation and make false associations. I'm so fucking tired of seeing this kind of dishonest bullshit.Mercier is not saying that it is not abuse if it is a young boy and a woman, or that the boy's 'wanted it' or anything - she is objecting to the misleading use of statistics The author of the article claims "95% of abused boys in juvenile facilities reported being attacked/coerced by female staff" This is misleading as it implies that 95% of the abuse suffered by boys in the juvenile system is perpertrated by women - this is not borne out by the report they cite, which explicitly states that it … | /r/MensRights | 19/06/14 09:46 AM |
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