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I didn’t have any sex drive back then hence no interest in sex.
/r/seduction26/09/24 10:32 AM
1

That’s pretty much like when men asked me why I was a virgin at (age higher than they decided anyone would willingly be a virgin) since men existed and I wasn’t ugly like wtf??
/r/seduction26/09/24 08:04 AM
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Good thing that’s what most well functioning people do then. I don’t exactly see your point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/23 07:09 AM
2

Lol what a piece of crap this is 🙄 men are happy to pair with most women because they don’t realise possible problems before they happen, meaning they need to actually make the mistakes since they can’t predict them. There’s also much less risk attached to women for men than the other way around. Women had to find a way to prevent possible negative outcomes, which’s partly why they’re more selective. There’s also the fact that more men than women are socially awkward, which’s something most wome…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 08:21 PM
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Oh don’t worry, I never cared much about downvotes anyway, or random people’s unmotivated opinions 😁
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 06:26 AM
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What do you mean? We know it does happen. What you were saying is that there’s no barriers for women not to falsely accuse men of assault. I’m claiming that there certainly are barriers and I’m presenting you with one
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/23 09:34 PM
-14

So what, having a conscience isn’t reason enough for you…?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/23 09:29 PM
1

Who’s forcing anyone to fuck though?
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/23 07:36 PM
1

The problem is that you, like so many men, don’t seem to realise when you don’t know enough about something and are better off just stop talking 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:03 PM
1

Whatever dude, I’m done with you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:25 PM
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No I actually don’t know what you mean. I was on a hookup site where I after a week ended up having 1500 unread messages. It’s overwhelming, not just made up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 11:21 AM
1

Okay, you’re entitled to your opinion, even when it considers something you’ve never experienced 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 05:45 AM
1

So you’re saying someone’s forcing them not to have sex? No? Didn’t think so!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:09 PM
0

You really don’t get it, do you? Only a minority of women even enjoy sex at all. Then there’s people like me who enjoy sex but hate the part that is physical intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:58 PM
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Why do you assume everyone wants physical intimacy rather than just being left alone and not bothered? Once again, you’re only talking about a majority, which could be as few as 51 % of women. If it’s just about comparing it with men it just has to be available to more women than men even 🤷‍♀️ And besides, assault isn’t physical intimacy. All it ends up doing is making you want it even less
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:57 PM
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Yea well those assumptions are based on the general population, meaning it doesn’t apply to all women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:53 PM
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Why would it though? And besides, who gets to decide what value other people have? It’s not even an objective assessment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:49 PM
1

So? It’s not quantifiable anyway, meaning it’s not possible to draw conclusions from it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:48 PM
1

What? That makes no sense, there’s several of ways to interpret that 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:47 PM
1

Why not simply call it celibate though? That’s what it means after all 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:46 PM
1

Eww that just makes it more disturbing 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:45 PM
1

Yea I don’t care, it’s fucked up no matter what you name it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:44 PM
0

Everyone deserves it as they’re human beings, but they can also easily act in a way that end up making them undeserving of it 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:48 AM
1

Yes he’s wrong, I just don’t wanna spend hours walking him, or you, through what’s wrong about it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:45 AM
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Lots of women are alone. Difference is that women typically don’t complain to everyone else about it, but rather turn inwards and hate themselves instead
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:43 AM
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I agree with you 100 %! 🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:42 AM
1

Ehh no…? Humans are per definition social creatures and do generally need social interaction as well as physical contact. The fact that lots of men seemingly believe sex is the same as intimacy tends to confuse these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:41 AM
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I’m 29 years old and realised just a year ago that there’s men who don’t find me annoying, unattractive, or a burden (no it’s not lack of self-esteem, but rather the result of being a woman with ADHD). I’ve never been in a relationship before and don’t rush to be in one either. What’s the point? I do just fine on my own and can’t really see what would make a relationship with a man worth dating, which I absolutely hate. This could obviously be because I was sexually assaulted on my first date ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:39 AM
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Great point 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:34 AM
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Sounds like you don’t consider anything but clearly visible or material things to be giving. That might be the issue here. Women are taught since a very young age that it’s their duty and responsibility to adapt to and cater to everyone else’s needs after all
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:30 AM
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Ehh first off, are we talking about men and women or males and females here…? Also, this is a thing in poor countries and the US where money actually matters much. Most women DO NOT CARE about wealth in any other place. I know as much since I’m a woman, know lots of women and regularly talk to lots of women. I know for a fact, based on what your claiming, that you don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:23 AM
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But that makes no sense if they want 18-22 year olds!!! 😱
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:20 AM
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How would one even know ones league??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:18 AM
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Volcel…?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:16 AM
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Except the reason behind his actions vary, which makes it relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:16 AM
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Lots of guys would fuck anything they could get their hands on though, meaning your point is useless
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:15 AM
2

Great, now I know what hair cut I’m getting next 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:12 AM
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Eww that’s just disgusting to think about 😣
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:09 AM
1

Of course it’s relevant, that’s why some believe on this made up and unscientific crap
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:58 AM
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Certainly everything that counts for dating Then why not actually mention those factors…?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:57 AM
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Most people exist in the middle in total but nobody is completely average ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:56 AM
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Ehh yea it is, it’s defined differently based on who you’d ask. Except of course income, but that’s because it’s the only one that can actually be accurately measured
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:55 AM
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That doesn’t make it any less sad 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:51 AM
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Lol no, people have standards, preferences, and goals. You are shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:51 AM
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That’s all got to do with your definition of what’s required 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:50 AM
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To me personally that’s what it means to be an adult though, but I get what you’re saying and I like the idea 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:49 AM
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Omg you’re impossible 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:47 AM
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Ehh that’s only because most men don’t realise they’re dumb and immature though 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:46 AM
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Wtf how shallow can you be?? What’s wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:45 AM
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I mean you’re basically just describing social constructs, which everything really is 😅 I don’t see the point 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:44 AM
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I’ve no idea what SMV stands for but whatever it is that’s bs. Women are still dumb and immature at that age, same as men. Stop making shit up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:55 PM
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Well yea, but I never mentioned anything about attraction though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:47 PM
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What are you on about? Did you just make that up based on your own opinions of what makes people good or bad? Why would anyone choose someone who’s just generally better or worse than themselves across the board? Makes no sense whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:45 PM
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There’s an average height, income, education level and so on. It’s very much possible to measure
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:43 PM
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What do you mean “just like the rest of the world”? Most people aren’t average across the board. And it’s boring since it implies someone who’s happy not to evolve at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:42 PM
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Lol what? That’s not how social scientific research methodology works at all. It’s only subjective unless you follow the research plan and keep the process transparent
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:37 PM
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Why would you, a supposedly grown man, need a nurturer…?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:19 PM
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Mediocre is mean value though. So yes, there is in fact such a thing as mediocre people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:19 PM
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Yes, which is why most people are also boring to anyone above average lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:18 PM
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A Stacy…?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:18 PM
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What’s that supposed to mean, men dating down? Who decides they’re above the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:17 PM
1

What do most consider attractive then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:16 PM
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Mediocre isn’t a subjective opinion though, it’s just a mean value
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:14 PM
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What? That makes no sense whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:13 PM
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Wow, that’s just sad 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:13 PM
2

Because that’s the type of relationship you’re describing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:12 PM
2

Yea well that happens constantly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:09 PM
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Sounds like you’re old fashioned and/or conservative lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:07 PM
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Yea, cause that’s what you made it sound like lol That doesn’t answer the question of whether or not you’ll reciprocate her though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:02 PM
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So basically someone that does anything for you? Do you plan on reciprocating it to her then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:50 PM
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What? How does that even make any sense? “Idiots exist that treat others like crap, why should the rest of us treat people with respect?”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:49 PM
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That’s pretty much what everyone wants, question is rather what makes a woman attractive and have a pleasant personality to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:45 PM
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Yea, the difference is that men, according to you, can’t even treat women they find unattractive like decent human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:06 PM
1

It it required for men to smell nice and fresh? Why would it be any different for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:46 PM
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Yea, and so can women. People with long hair typically use different products than people with shorter hair, that goes for both men and women. And no, neither conditioner nor “a bunch of creams” (whatever that is) are a necessity. That’s very much true, but you’re also not supposed to use regular soap to wash your intimate parts, water is enough. Again, women can do that as well, but we’re expected (as you make very evident here) to use a bunch of different products. Probably because it’s consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:23 AM
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I mean i don't notice most men stinking at all. Men have a lot worse sense of smell compared to women, meaning this doesn’t say much. Besides the male body is much less demanding about cleaniness than the female body. I’m sorry, what? Men sweat a lot more than women for one, what are you talking about?? 😅 Overall men have a much easier time cleaning themselves. Then why don’t they do a better job if that’s the case?? Just consider that if men go bald, they basically just need a soap bar for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:02 AM
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Better personal hygiene tbh, cause that seems to be one of the biggest differences between the average man vs the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:39 PM
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Yea, exactly what I’ve been thinking. Then again men tend to have very easily bruised egos and it rarely takes much to make them whine about something you said to them. People who are looking for ways to be offended tend to find it. Why else would anyone be offended by someone saying “women”?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:07 PM
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Why wouldn’t women want intelligent men though? Street smarts would reasonably only be more interesting for women who are shallow and care about what others think of them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:05 PM
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Are you for real? Me and my friends roast the crap out of each other! Men on the other hand seems to be mad about everything 😅 this isn’t a “women are sensitive and therefore can’t take a joke” thing, but rather “men expect to be able to roast women without them doing the same thing back”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 01:43 PM
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No point of playing the victim here. You can feel sorry for yourself all you want, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s still a male world. Just look at how many men reacted badly to the Barbie movie
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 12:17 PM
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I’m not ignoring it, I’m saying that this isn’t something to only be studied quantitatively
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 12:14 PM
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I’m sure you have spent a lot of time on this, which is exactly my point; you’re not viewing this objectively, same as everyone else 🤷‍♀️ it’s about trends, not biology
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:49 PM
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Body shape in women is always about the way your body is shaped naturally. And yea, the hourglass shape usually is what men desire the most (annoyingly enough). That’s something you’re born with though, not something that be created in the gym. Besides, add in the fact that women’s clothing isn’t even made to fit this apparent desirable body shape and suddenly we’re back to the same shitty situation as men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:48 PM
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I’m not claiming I know what others do or think, I’m saying that’s exactly what we don’t know. And that’s why we can’t assume women are more shallow than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:44 PM
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Except attractiveness can’t be measured that way and there’s no way of knowing how much the respondents are influenced by unknown variables. Quantitative studies only look for what’s already known, meaning there could be loads of other factors involved that’re simply unknown 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:54 PM
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So? That doesn’t prove shit 😅 you’re only one person ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:36 PM
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That’s not what body shape for women means. It’s the the way your bone structure looks, same as with jawline and stuff. And yes, it’s obviously gonna be easier for men to change those things by working out. I’m not even talking about being fat or not, but rather proportions. Men are square shaped, it’s not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:05 PM
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Working out doesn’t change body shape though, it actually tends to make it even more skewed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:58 PM
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Except men care about other way more shallow things. Don’t act like men aren’t as bad, because they certainly are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:57 PM
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Except the fact that they’d sleep with just about anyone doesn’t make them any less shallow. It only means they’re desperate enough 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:54 PM
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I agree with you, what a disgusting thing to say 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:53 PM
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Why would only those things matter though…?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:50 PM
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Neither do I 🤷‍♀️ I do believe, however, that it depends on where you yourself stand in all of this. If you, like me, grew up believing you were ugly AF and that nobody wanted you, that your life was more different than similar to your supposed peers, and that all of this suddenly changed and ended up being the complete opposite, I think you’d have a hard time believing it as well. It doesn’t necessarily mean you’re lying to yourself though, but rather that everything you assumed was true end up…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:19 PM
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Trust me, I’m well aware of how fucked up the world actually is (dad died when I was a kid, resulting in 20 years of ptsd and a fear of intimacy. Didn’t have sex until 2 weeks ago at 28 due to severe social anxiety and depression as a result of prolonged grief). I’m saying that believing in such a deterministic, idea out of all the things in this world, that’s depressing. Why would you believe something as subjective (and therefore individual) as attraction would be as simple as you suggest thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:37 PM
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And you believe that these principles are actually proven to be true, rather than a way to describe reality that makes sense to men who perceive themselves as unattractive? I suppose I simply don’t get why anyone would choose to believe in such fatalistic (and therefore quite depressing) theoretical model. If you weren’t already depressed you’ll surely end up that way if you decide to prescribe to these ideas. So basically flat earth level of science. But what else is to be expected when someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:06 PM
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What is even the core principles of redpill, before it became what it is nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:58 PM
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So what does it mean when women have sex with men they aren’t attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:40 PM
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Lol fuckboys and incels often have lots in common. Basically the only difference is one gets laid and one doesn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:36 PM
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Yea, so? I bet you wouldn’t do something dangerous that you know basically nothing about, simply to please your coworkers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:39 PM
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Oh who the fuck cares what teenagers think?? I didn’t get it when I was one and I don’t get it now. I also just realised how I managed to stay away from anything sexual until I was past 25 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:35 PM
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“It’s bad if you’re a virgin i high school…” - what does that even mean? Bad for who and how? That sounds stupid af 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:28 PM
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You’re the one living in your own head at least and discussing subjects you have absolutely no knowledge of
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 07:04 PM
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Because it doesn’t solve the actual problem. Even if it did, why isn’t it on men to stop swiping on 99 % of women or to write anything at all after you’ve answered them with as much effort as they put in their “hi”?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:47 PM
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I’m not wasting more time on you since you’ve proved yourself seemingly incompetent in having a civil discussion. Every single time you make a comment about anything at all you seem to feel sorry for yourself and put the blame on everyone else. Be miserable if you like, who cares? 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:45 PM
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Sexual assault, which happens to a lot women, not men. And since men are bigger and stronger than women, it kinda makes sense that such an experience would result in trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:30 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:28 PM
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I agree with you on this. I always assume no one likes me until proven otherwise 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:22 PM
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Yea, except most men aren’t in this situation because of earlier traumatic experiences with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:20 PM
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I had a similar experience, only I was bullied by boys all through school. I didn’t realise that any guys liked me until I was 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:17 PM
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Okay, did you ever consider that anxiety might be the default for most people? What makes you believe this would move any responsibility from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:49 PM
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Lol you explained something you apparently made up on your own, which is why it doesn’t make sense to anyone but you 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:28 PM
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Why do you assume it doesn’t apply to lots of women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:18 PM
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Nope, it literally means that you’re overwhelmed with all the messages
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:16 PM
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The fact that your body react to physical stimulation doesn’t mean that you find someone attractive. What part of that don’t you get? Or is it a question of consent perhaps? Do someone need to be completely sober for it to count?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:06 PM
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Well then how come I myself slept with a guy just last week that I wasn’t sexually attracted to whatsoever? People have been known to orgasm while being raped, are you saying it has to be because those people were sexually attracted to their perpetrators?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:00 PM
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It’s very much possible to have sex with someone you’re not attracted to, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:30 PM
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Of course, it’s obviously women’s fault that good looking men screw them over. Respect and morals my ass! More like conservatives and old fashioned
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:43 PM
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I don’t need to ask, it’s obvious to me. You’re basically saying what’s been the truth for women since forever but instead apply it to men. Although I suppose you’re only viewing this from your own perspective, meaning it’s only your personal unscientific observations. The fact that the majority of medical research have been made on males and generalised to females, that female products are typically more expensive than the exact same product that’s made for men, and the fact that history is ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:07 PM
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I believe this is a really important point that’s easily overlooked
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:58 PM
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And who are these people…?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:57 PM
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What an excellent way to explain this! 😁 I finally understand how even though I want sex and say as much, I don’t enjoy the way a lot of men are treating me 🫤 thanks ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:56 PM
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Nope, most women would definitely prefer someone who doesn’t tell lies or act deceitfully, the way you suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:50 PM
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Sounds like you’re mixing up men and women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:33 AM
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I think you forgot the “/s” at the end of your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:54 PM
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There’s soooo many things our brains are wired to do or not do, how’s it always when men act creepy that it suddenly becomes impossible to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:53 PM
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There’s not even a discussion to win ffs, you’re just making things up based on your own made up hypothetical scenarios 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:11 PM
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I mean sure, if you’re using those kinds of far reaching examples 🤷‍♀️ but why would these very specific examples be considered valid and undetected crimes aren’t? Falsely accusing someone is a crime as well btw, how come that’s okay to use? It seems like you’re just choosing examples that fit into your own narrative, and ignore all of those that doesn’t. Several of these things apply to the US and nowhere else. That’s a broken and faulty country in a million different ways and honestly a bad ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:44 PM
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I’d like to try though. To do that though, I’ll need for you to give an example as to what you mean when you say that a woman can ruin a man’s life so easily, how that isn’t illegal and why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:05 PM
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Well not all crimes are detected, so why’s that not relevant? Men can rape women and get away with it, no harm done on themselves while the woman’s life is ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:43 PM
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That’s pretty true of humanity in general though so what’s your point? I mean good social skills and beauty tend to make us feel good, why wouldn’t it be sought after by everyone? I’d definitely disagree when it comes to wealth though. Generally speaking it takes a certain type of person to gather wealth or to have grown up with wealth. Because of that it’s wanted by far from every woman, but rather a specific type of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:33 PM
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How’s that an answer to my question? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:21 PM
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Group level characteristics are also just that - on a group level. It’s an average and was never supposed to be used as an exact truth of how individual women behave, that’s a misuse of data and a false conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:08 AM
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If sex isn’t cheating, according to you, then what is?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:03 AM
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Yea I’ve read studies on it as well, particularly one from last year that looked on earlier studies. It showed that there’s a problem in how “fantasise” is defined; what it actually refers to and what the meaning of it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:21 PM
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Ah yes here comes the deliberate obtuseness Nope, I honestly wanna know what it’s supposed to be unless it’s emotions. “We never said we weren’t emotionally driven!!” Yes. Yes women did claim that their attraction and desire is a sort of meritocracy or how “kind and emotionally available” a man is. RP has been telling men about how to spike women’s emotions and create excitement. Women at best use flowery language to make their own primal instincts sound like high minded virtuous calculations. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:10 PM
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What else, if not emotions, would sexual attraction be driven by? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:52 PM
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All that says is that those men are just as broken and unwell as the women mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:52 PM
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Perhaps to you but that doesn’t mean it’s true for everyone. The fact that you keep insisting that those women are hot means you’re likely even more broken than they are. Only difference is that they’re self destructive while men like you are destructive to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:59 PM
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He’s physically manlier? Wtf does that even mean? XD
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:50 PM
1

Yea and also wear all that makeup because they can’t stand to look at themselves without it because after all of those years of sexual assault and/or abuse, of hearing how worthless they are, they now hate themselves. That’s the type of women who chooses to be with someone like Tate, because they don’t believe they deserve anything else 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 11:23 AM
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Well there’s millions of women in the world after all. A “hella lot” isn’t necessarily that many compared to the ones who isn’t like that, it’s likely even less than historically 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 11:08 AM
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And very broken ones
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:53 AM
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And those are often girls/women from poor backgrounds, such as victims of sexual assault or child abuse, who believe that’s all their good for. Those women aren’t the rule, they’re the exception and the ones who sadly see their value in men’s opinions of them. They seek validation and approval first and foremost and mistakenly believe that’s what they’ll get when they go after those men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:52 AM
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Lol that’s just depressing in itself 😆 but tbh, who wouldn’t be feeling depressed living in such a country? Seems to me like it’s more likely wealthy people who aren’t depressed and poor people who are. Same thing with those who are knowledgeable enough to not what’s actually going in and those who aren’t. Anyways, what’s the point? Why mention the political affiliations in this context? It’s completely irrelevant, whether it’s true or not 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:44 AM
1

That study was made on adolescents. How’s that relevant in this context? Or perhaps you’ve been talking about that specific demographic all along, not actual adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:18 PM
1

Again, if that’s a large part of it then how do explain orgasms that happen as a result of masturbation?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:06 PM
1

Lol no, that’s the definition of the word. You can believe what you want but at least don’t pretend like it’s something it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:05 PM
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Sexual compatibility has to do with preferences, i.e. likes and dislikes, not how much a person are able to cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:00 PM
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Whatever dude, sounds more like you’re blaming women who aren’t able to cum with you instead of trying to understand them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 09:43 PM
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Yea, because sex is obviously always consensual and must feel good for it to result in a pregnancy /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:21 PM
1

That’s what makes it so sad, you’re only 31 and already acting like a boomer
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:20 PM
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You believe it has to do with a lack of attraction, huh? So the reason a large portion of women don’t have orgasm is because they don’t sleep with men they find attractive enough? Then how does it work when women orgasm on their own?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:19 PM
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So do you like interview women about their ability to orgasm before you sleep with them then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:18 PM
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Yes, it’s obviously only liberal women who struggle with mental health issues, I’m sure there’s been studies where political affiliation and mental health was studied and compared. Very believable! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:17 PM
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You avoid women like that? 😆 sure, buddy!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:16 PM
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It’s the combination of different types of stimulation that does it, the same way several areas on the penis, other than the head, is sensitive. And lots of men are able to focus on two things at once just a fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:14 PM
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Yes, that’s actually what it is - the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:42 PM
2

But do you consider it as wanting sex even if people don’t end up having sex, like is it essentially about sex drive or the number of people one actually end up having sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:15 PM
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Why’s it weird to have to work to get an orgasm as a woman, like what’s your point? It takes me 45-60 minute for instance 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:01 PM
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Men and women have different ideas of what they consider to be attractive though. I for one aren’t happy with my body shape for instance but at the same time know it’s what men tend to like 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:26 AM
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Not really true, since there’s a bunch of other factors that are important as well, including the way you present yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:24 AM
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Well to me it sure feels like a mystery since I’ve only just now got told by anyone that I might be even a little attractive. I never really listened to it before since I didn’t feel like it applied to me anyway. Having it explained this way also makes a difference and easily to fully understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:22 AM
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Like the ideal masculine man for instance, he tends to be described differently by men and women, both looks and personality wise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:49 PM
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I agree, suddenly realising a woman uses social media a lot, wear a lot of makeup, or have had sex with a certain number of men are things that make some men react in this seemingly sudden way as well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:26 PM
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Or just women about men ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:23 PM
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Except the kind of men in this sub and most women have different ideas of what it means to be masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:23 PM
3

Since when is cheating anything but upsetting?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:22 PM
1

Lol what’s your problem, dude? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:45 PM
1

Well Finland isn’t a part of Scandinavia anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:06 PM
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That’s usually the way it is here though. Idk who you’ve talked to but the way you describe it, spending time together and actually caring, that’s what it often is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:51 PM
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The biggest difference between the way we view sexual encounters and the way Americans seem to view it, is that women don’t get to be a part of the game. We don’t act like it’s something it isn’t. How’s honesty worse than lying and pretending? At least both parties know what they get. Or perhaps you’re one of those men who believe that different rules should apply to men and women? Men are allowed to sleep around all they want but as soon as a woman have sex for fun she’s a dirty slut, is that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:48 PM
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I obviously can. But I suppose anything I say will pretty much be irrelevant to you anyway because of our apparent sex related differences. Men think logically and women emotionally, right? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:39 PM
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I appreciate it, thanks. :) also seems like you know more than most Americans then :P other notable Swedish people and businesses are Carl von Linné, Tim “Avicii” Bergling, Tove Lo, Felix “Pewdiepie” Kjellberg, Spotify, Volvo, and H&M.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:50 PM
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I don't have a general view on a specific group of refugees based solely on their origin
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:26 PM
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It's called cultural values, don't need to show you a study to prove that. All you need to know is a bit about the culture here
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:24 PM
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Replication is a quantitative concept, meaning it's irrelevant in qualitative research
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:23 PM
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Altruism and equality between the sexes are Swedish cultural norms though. So is equal parental leave, a disinterest for getting married, and a general lack of old christian shit like how virgins are better since they're more pure and innocent
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:22 PM
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No...? Never heard of such a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:19 PM
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An equal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:15 PM
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Worse in what way...?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:14 PM
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Yea, sex isn't as much of a taboo here as in the states. Although the type of women who would agree to casual sex are a specific group on its own as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:12 PM
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Dude, education is free here, it's not a big deal. That's just one of several examples of things that absolutely can be generalised since it's a fact that apply to the country as a whole. Also, unlike you I never claimed to speak for everyone, only the vast majority. Stop making shit up
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:08 PM
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I never said anything about the sample size, i.e. the women. I'm saying one man, who used very general and highly interpretative attributes, cannot be used as an example on anything. Same goes for the fact that he uses himself as both a participant and a researcher, meaning there's no credability in the conclusions. Yea, as a Swedish woman who grew up in Sweden, lives in Sweden, are fluent in Swedish and studied Swedish social politics and Swedish law, I have a vastly different knowledge of Swed…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:03 PM
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Ever heard of sociology? Cultural anthropology? Social psychology? No I didn’t think you had, because I that case you wouldn’t ask these questions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:19 AM
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Nope, I can speak for everyone who have the same values as me, which is the vast majority of Swedish women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:05 AM
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Because you claim the result can be generalisable to other men with the same type of attributes, meaning you’d have to assume that’s the reason the women swiped
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:03 AM
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I can speak for the general culture here. And if you’re the type of person that agrees with all of this we’re very happy to hear you don’t want us either since it means we don’t have to put up with people like you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:59 AM
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Bullshit, because you don’t know why women did or did not swipe on him 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:55 AM
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As someone else said earlier, OP is only one person, meaning the results only speak for him, if even that. It can’t be used to conclude anything about anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:51 AM
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Well your opinion don’t matter because the validity and reliability is low no matter what you believe
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:45 AM
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Not with a crappy attitude, no
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:41 AM
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Swedish woman here! It’s not a bias against Americans, it’s more likely the fact that we don’t like your kind of behaviour, the way you described that you present yourself. We’re not a fan of that kind of attitude in men, same goes for so called “traditional gender roles” 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:40 AM
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Sounds like you know everything! Please, enlighten me with these so called “basic sex differences”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:45 AM
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There’s no such thing as general personality differences between the sexes. You would’ve known that if you’d read basically any recent study on this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:44 AM
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Basic psychology based on what theoretical perspective? Psychodynamic? Cognitive? Biological?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:43 AM
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Yea, sure seems like it 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:53 PM
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I’m not just talking about accusations though, and I have a feeling neither did the moron before me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:30 PM
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It might be too complex for you to handle, but yes that’s exactly why
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:18 AM
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Women are like that sometimes because men can get violent when they’re being rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:45 AM
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I mean yea of course it is, at least if this is who represent ‘men’ in the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:33 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:34 AM
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So why would any woman believe what men say about women…?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:30 AM
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What I mentioned earlier, about using these men as examples, it doesn’t really say much about women since it’s from the men’s perspective. If, however, you’d find something which shows that women prefer these types of personality traits over others, then you can say something about women and women’s preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:23 PM
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The point is that extreme in one direction is better than extreme in another direction. Thats all, there is no deeper meaning to it. But who are you to decide that for women? It’s only your interpretation of this, nobody else’s. How so? Because that’s not what women are attracted to, quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:14 PM
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You questioned whether or not it showed. I gave you an example of this. It’s not even about having self awareness if you’re reading someone else’s behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:02 PM
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I’m sure you don’t, but that’s still what you’re doing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:01 PM
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I’m not using them to generalize. What’s your point of bringing them up then, unless you’re trying to somehow prove how women act? To me a bad boy is someone who takes more than he gives. Vice versa for good guy. Well if that’s your definition of a bad boy, your hypothesis is false
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:00 PM
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“Actions speak louder than words”, so yes, you can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:21 PM
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I’m asking if it’s correct to assume that you’re misrepresenting data
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:20 PM
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But that’s the thing about exceptions - they’re exceptions, as in irrelevant to the population at large! You can’t generalise that at all, it tells you absolutely nothing. What’s a bad boy to you then? Because to women it’s basically someone who are exciting and challenging rather than someone who just takes them for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:18 PM
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Because it’s not possible to falsify. You can’t make any experiments like you can in any other comparable disciplines.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:12 PM
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Yes you need a source for that, at least if you’re claiming it as facts rather than your irrelevant opinion. Is there even any sources other than evolutionary psychology? That’s basically pseudoscience as evidence goes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:54 PM
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About preferring dominant men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:36 PM
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Even if it wasn't the women's choice in the past. It is their choice now and women choose dominant and taller than average men. Source…?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:13 PM
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1-2. The first study you referenced only focused on height, and it’s also the one that produced the numbers in your second point. It doesn’t say anything, it’s only based on evolutionary psychology which is a problematic discipline which hypothesis are well known for being impossible to test or falsify. Researches don’t know for sure why women historically preferred tall men. What studies do say, however, is that the strongest and most dominant men were the ones who most women got pregnant with.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:06 PM
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A genuine deep connection mean that you actually like each other, not just the idealised picture of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:42 PM
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Are you arguing that women like these traits because the men you chose as examples managed to attract women, or based of women? See that makes a big difference, what perspective you’d choose. You don’t know how many women these creeps scared away for instance, only that some stayed 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:41 PM
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And they likely also attract mentally ill women. I thought these types of discussion were supposed to be about the majority, not the few exceptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:37 PM
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Nope, we usually just call it for what it is: social democracy
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 11:29 PM
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Perhaps to an American, but not to the rest of us
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 08:47 PM
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Liberalism is an economic ideology though and far closer to conservatism than social democracy for instance.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 07:33 PM
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How do you mean?
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 07:25 PM
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Humans do it, it’s not a gendered issue. I’m saying we all find it hard unless we’ve been taught what to look for, no matter if it’s men or women. Most women and most men choose to date normal men and women, only a few choose criminals and it’s usually the ones who are criminals themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 07:23 PM
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Or, oooor, it’s the patriarchy that’s the cause of everything you just complained about…? 😱
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 07:16 PM
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millions of women's experiences well in that case you need to present qualitative studies, otherwise it's just...well, nothing and completely irrelevant.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:35 PM
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I was just thinking the same. Pathetic
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:33 PM
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What about women who falsely accuse you of rape, are you saying men didn't choose them?
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:30 PM
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How do you suggest women pick the so called "good men" then and where are women supposed to learn this? How's this different from men who choose horrible girlfriends, usually the same type of women that we learned as girls to stay away from?
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:29 PM
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Why would you believe it's only women? That's how most people are. Most people suck at supporting others when they show any kind of insecurity or vulnerability. Why take it out specifically on women?
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:26 PM
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Sure, among women who didn't grow up with parents who taught them they're good enough the way they are, meaning a small minority of women. Why's it worth mentioning those few examples?
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:21 PM
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Sure, women who grew up in the same circumstances or priviliged bored women. They're hardly the majority, so why even mention it?
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:19 PM
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I mean if this is the kinda crap men try to convince us of, who wouldn't rather believe a woman...?
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:14 PM
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What do you mean when you claim that those men are "all more masculine and romantic"? Those are also way more conservative cultures overall, which is why it definitely makes sense to pick the taller men (according to your interpretation).
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 06:12 PM
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That completely depends on the definition of what it means to be forced, having options, the possibility to make a choice and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:50 PM
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Nope, you didn’t explain anything. All you did was to state your personal opinions in the matter, with no explanation whatsoever 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:40 PM
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Being murdered because you don’t wanna sell your body is accountability now? How’s that in any way reasonable consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:57 PM
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Stop goalposting, the point concerned the need for money versus the need for sex, nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:56 PM
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Hugs buddy, that’s physical intimacy. And it’s called neuroscience btw
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:52 PM
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It depends on your definition of sex, and most importantly, what it is those men actually feel a need of; is it cumming? Then yes, you can absolutely do it yourself. Is it physical intimacy? Then no, they can’t do it on their own, but if this is the case it would be a whole lot easier to get it since it works just as well with friends and in a non sexual way. So what if some woman calls you a weirdo? Plenty of men call women sluts for having casual sex, but those women keep doing it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:05 PM
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Because sex isn’t necessary to survive, food is. And if someone have such a debilitating sex drive they can buy and use toys to fulfil their sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:01 PM
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Yea, because gangs will definitely not murder any of the women who tell them they want out. /s 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:58 PM
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What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:56 PM
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Exactly, why’s this so hard to get? It’s not a right to have sex ffs 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:55 PM
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You really don’t get it, do you? It’s not about men Vs women in this, it’s about the fact that the vast majority of sex workers aren’t selling their bodies because that’s their dream job or anything, it’s a strategy to fight organised crime. Obviously it’s still illegal to buy sexual services then, because it makes it possible for criminals to make money on forcing women to work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:54 PM
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Wow, if this is how most other women work, I don’t think I’ll ever feel comfortable going on a date again 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:11 PM
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I’m confused, what do you claim to get but don’t agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:38 PM
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So why complain on the type of women you dislike rather than the men who enables them to act that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:17 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:13 PM
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What does a “perfectly normal dude” mean to you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:30 AM
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This! I’m so sick of “women don’t like nice guys”, it’s so dumb and such a load of crap!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:29 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:44 AM
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Personally, I’m not sure I’d even want to commit to a man I was sexually attracted to, or who was sexually attracted to me. I wouldn’t want to have sex with someone who fits what I’m looking for in a partner. It just feels wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:30 PM
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I completely agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:43 PM
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Question is whether it’d make women depressed as a result of the difference or the lack of attention on its own. Impossible to say 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:02 PM
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What’s your point? Only a small minority of women even use Tinder anyway. It doesn’t prove anything whether this is true or not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:01 PM
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And I think that’s how the male brain mostly think. Knowing there’s men who’d be willing to sleep with you is in no way validating if those men makes you feel terrified to walk among strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:53 PM
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First off, I said most women either don’t want it or don’t know how to get there. You’re either naïve or plain stupid if you don’t think there’s hundreds of things that has to happen between match and fuck. All women aren’t social butterflies or feel comfortable enough in their body for instance. Or they’re virgins and don’t wanna risk doing it with someone who’ll abuse them. The risks of meeting a random man on the internet are also a lot greater for women compared to men. Generally, just becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:51 PM
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But why’s your idea of what it’d be like for women if they wanted casual sex relevant in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:44 PM
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And most women either don’t want it or don’t know how to get it. What’s your point? It’s just hypothetical on top of more hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:39 PM
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They don’t explain it, they tell men their own interpretation of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:29 PM
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Why would a man who could afford to provide for an ugly or unpleasant woman do so? He would reasonably have better options 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:03 PM
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No thanks, I’m no longer interested in this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:50 PM
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It’s your interpretation of the data I’m questioning, not the data itself. The place we sold was only 1/10 of the price of what we bought on the countryside. But I mean you’re correct, most women live in the cities. They’re also more likely to be approved as tenants considering men are directly affected of most social problems. That’s exactly what women are doing when it’s possible though. And it’s not about women not wanting or needing men, but the fact that they’re not interested, and wouldn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:58 PM
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Average height in men is approximately 6 feet here, and women care a lot less about height here compared to the US. Same goes for an average body concerning weight - only 12 percent of the population here are considered to be obese. In other words it’s all relative
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:22 PM
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Why…? It doesn’t prove anything 🤷‍♀️ I was raised by a single mother myself, and our economy was better after dad died, not worse. We lived in a house on the countryside, no issues whatsoever. And this is true for many women here. There’s also of course families where there’s to mothers, and they do fine - no man’s needed. Lol I work in the social services and the majority of people in need of economical support are single men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:20 PM
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And this is why some of us also choose to dress ‘ugly’ to escape the attention of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:12 PM
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So you’re saying that big butts are what women consider to be the most attractive? Or an hourglass figure? Or full lips? Or a big chest? These are all typically male ideas of attractiveness. The fact that women embraced it doesn’t mean it’s because of womens’ beauty standards to begin with. It just means that women were smart enough to accept it as their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:10 PM
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Since when is a healthy body an unreasonable standard…?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:06 PM
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This is what we’re taught in university in disciplines like sociology for instance, a notoriously male dominated field. Women, just as men, generally want a partner that actually care for them, not be forced into marriage. Men have provided for women historically because women weren’t allowed to do that by themselves. Now we do. Unless men accept the fact that they’re no longer needed for womens’ survivability, they’ll likely stay single. It’s not that hard to get. And the fact that that’s your …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:04 PM
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And most innocent non criminal murder, rape or severely assaulted victims are women. Quantity isn’t the same as quality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:30 PM
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Yea you’re basically describing reflexivity. Probably different theories as well, wouldn’t surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:11 PM
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You’re not looking at it holistically, you’re looking at it from a male perspective and with the belief that you can put away all of your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:37 AM
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Of course, obviously all women act the same way and for the same reasons /s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:36 AM
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Yea this is dumb, because it’s basically just a description of personality traits, not differences between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:34 AM
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Well on this sub pretty much everything is made up stuff based on pseudoscience so I doubt it’s really a loss
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:15 AM
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She looks bad? What’s that supposed to mean? How do you even look bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:05 AM
0

Thanks for your service
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:35 PM
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Since when is facts and logic word salad? She is as least making sense. How do you even look like a kind of person who’d have someone else raise their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:27 AM
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Sure, but evolutionary biology is also basically pseudoscience. It can neither be tested or falsified
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:25 AM
1

And that’s the only two options available; sluts and virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:23 AM
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Love your name lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:07 AM
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I agree, and I personally believe this to be true of several things, including but not limited to, being oversensitive, overanalysing, overthinking etc. To me, it’s simply a way for people who generalise too much too put others down, either because they don’t understand or because they’re jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:42 PM
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“Introspection is the examination of one's own conscious thoughts and feelings. In psychology, the process of introspection relies on the observation of one's mental state, while in a spiritual context it may refer to the examination of one's soul. Introspection is closely related to human self-reflection and self-discovery and is contrasted with external observation.” Yea, I’d definitely say women tend to be more introspective m. To examine why one feel the way they do, you have to introspect. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:42 PM
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Yes, I’m aware that those are both theoretical perspectives. But again, what’s toxic about pointing out how treating women like lesser people is a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:21 PM
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Haha nice to meet you, my type! 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:18 PM
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Do you mean it’s a result of an inherent cognitive difference between males and females, or rather a learned behaviour that’s the result of a social construct? And if it’s learned, what do you mean would be the benefit of such a behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:07 PM
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I wouldn’t say it has to do with one being more correct than the other, it’s more like different ways. I see how it may seem like women are right and men are wrong, but it’s rather that women are generally much more introspective, and therefore it feels like women are doing it correctly. It’s much more complex than this, since this more theoretical explanation is supposed to be separate from the typically female and male communication style respectively, not value one as better or more correct t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:58 PM
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I think this is a very simplified way of thinking and therefore leaves out a lot of important factors. After studying psychology and sociology, it seems to be more about the fact that women are taught early on how to cope with their negative emotions. Therefore they’re better equipped to deal with breakups than most men. In my personal experience though, having suffered the loss of a loved one early on in life, most people are completely unprepared for big life altering changes, like the loss of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:47 PM
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Not at all. Women see more different dimensions than men, that’s why it all seems like complaints to men. To women it’s simply several different ways of communicating. If you perceive it all like complaints, then it’s most likely because she has to basically mother you, because you yourself have a tendency to interpret even neutral and informative communication as complaints, or because she has a communication style that’s easily misinterpreted as complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:39 PM
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I never claimed it was only kindness either. It’s the combination, and the way you present it to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:25 PM
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Oh okay! I wasn’t aware of that, sorry 😅 dyslexia kinda make you wanna read as little as possible ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:02 PM
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Yes, exactly this! I agree with all of your points; 1. most women irl take it as a compliment to be approached 2. most guys approaching isn’t creepy 3. the creepy guys are basically always old 4. men your own age seem scared to even look at you 5. so many matches on Tinder but no one wants to talk I feel like you’ve solved an old mystery of mine 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:00 PM
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I absolutely agree! You nailed it, calm, emotionally stable and kind are definitely the main things. Thanks for putting my thoughts into words! 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:55 PM
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And that flair was…?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:33 PM
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You never said anything about that, you just asked what I wanted you to do about it and I gave you an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:26 PM
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Lol they walked right up to you and asked, just like that? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:18 PM
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Lol no sorry, I thought we were talking about how women feel about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:14 PM
1

In what way is fatalism implied then? And since RP seem to mostly cause pain, at least more than it resolves, how is this toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:07 PM
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I don’t follow. Are you saying attractive and good looking are the same? Because interesting, emotionally responsive and intellectually stimulating are what I personally find to be attractive in someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:05 PM
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This is interesting, because a lot of those qualities mentioned are very hard to evaluate by yourself. Like even if you yourself believe you’re a kind person, how would you actually know in what way other people see you? What might seem like an action of kindness to one person may be thought of as something completely different to another person. Even if 10 different people say they look for a certain quality, it doesn’t automatically mean that quality will present itself in a similar way. And b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:58 PM
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Having access to something in theory, isn’t the same as having access in practice though. Men also have access to women, but whenever you point that out it’s suddenly whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:24 PM
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That’s a really important point to take into consideration! Like I’m not claiming that I’m beautiful, not because I think I’m ugly but because I don’t think I’m the one who can determine whether I am, but it’s crazy how some men will behave to you sometimes. Like the number of people and honk as they drive by, or dudes who literally are trying to get into your pants on a crowded bus (as in putting their hands in under your shorts, it happens at summertime).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:17 PM
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Lol not necessarily you personally 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:08 PM
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So intimacy is actually a goal too? I always thought sex was the only thing that counted for pillers. Who would’ve thought!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:22 AM
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Why is he the toxic one? He doesn’t promote fatalism and factors you can’t actually affect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:10 AM
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Not at all, men who lack in social skills are extremely unattractive really
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:06 AM
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If that’s the same thing as logic thinking, then yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:05 AM
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You usually don’t find out about his cock size until after you’ve interacted with him for a while though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:04 AM
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I agree, this is what makes a lot of us horny for you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:59 AM
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Naah, your points doesn’t really hold up. Kindness, humour and emotional intelligence are absolutely the most important qualities to a lot of us. Other qualities, like charisma and being a good listener for instance can also make you seem way more attractive. And yes, such a mindset IS toxic, because it’s determinant and overwhelmingly based on fatalism. The last part is also true, money, looks, status - it’ll only take you a very short way, maybe not even into a woman’s panties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:58 AM
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Not really true, making you feel appreciated or sexy really does a lot more
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:51 AM
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Naah that’s only true for a very short time in the beginning. If he doesn’t respond in an interesting way, he basically stops being interesting, good looks or not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:50 AM
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Why complain about financial rape then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:14 PM
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Exactly, it’s not always better to have a lot of choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:57 PM
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I’m just curious about how something that’s impossible to know, can be so important.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:52 PM
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Okay, let me rephrase then: how would you know if someone has had casual sex or relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:11 PM
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How would you know what someone’s body count is then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:04 PM
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We don’t have that problem here, I don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:50 PM
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Good point, not all of us like to go clubbing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:42 AM
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So in reality good girls don’t really exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:40 AM
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Probably part of it is because they’re acting in an ugly way
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:39 AM
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Lol that’s a great point really
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:38 AM
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Tell that to your government instead, they’re the ones who can change it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:32 AM
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It was an answer, maybe not the kind of answer you were looking for or the one you wanted, but still an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:23 AM
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Based on what, statistics? I mean it’s not like women will believe a man is earning an average amount of money unless he actually is. And how would you measure an average in looks or social status for instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:22 AM
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Nope, I mean actual men who take responsibility for their own actions instead of blaming the assault victim. Good day to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:24 PM
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Absolutely, and that's what pepperspray and male friends are for
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:05 PM
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Not to everyone. It depends on a lot of things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:20 PM
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First of all, that’s such a confusing thing to think of lol. Secondly, but I mean average in which area? Like abilities, income, looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:19 PM
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“…women will prefer to die alone than ‘waste their best years settling for an average man”. In this context, in which way would a man be considered average?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:52 PM
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The nuclear family didn’t actually become a thing until the 1800s though, it’s a modern invention really
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:49 PM
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I agree, people fall victim to their own biases all the time. How do any of us really know what we’re attracted to? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:47 PM
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What an interesting theory, that the less attractive someone is would also make it the more likely to fall victim of wishful thinking. Care to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:45 PM
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Yea, women typically would prefer to be alone rather than be with someone they don’t find attractive. It’s probably in part because women tend to have emotional support and physical intimacy thanks to friends, which I can imagine isn’t as common for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:05 PM
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Really? That’s gotta be a cultural thing lol, I’ve never heard of anyone who didn’t plan their trip carefully and booked hostels way in advance. Funny how different it can be
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:58 PM
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It takes certain types of personality traits, charisma etc to be able do this as well, not only looks tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:56 PM
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Lol that makes much more sense if it only concerns looks, not personality or anything else like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:54 PM
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Sure you can, as in you’re allowed to do it, but it doesn’t mean it’s relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:19 AM
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How’s that trolling? I only discuss things I’m interested and have an opinion about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:18 AM
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I will say that the SA thing is a little different because other men won't step in and defend men for doing shit like that, whereas women will absolutely celebrate another woman slapping a man who "deserves it". I believe this is a really great point! It sucks that so many women celebrate this kind of abusive behaviour, because it is abusive, whether you believe the person ‘deserved’ it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:40 AM
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Why would you claim all women are wonderful though? That’s just bullshit! The worse bullies in school were always women. It’s almost like those women are conveniently forgotten
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:37 AM
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Women claim most men are abusers? Seems like those women also hang out with the wrong men, if that’s what they believe
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:33 AM
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Why do you yourself believe people point to the difference of a few instances of violent behaviour and someone, like Heard, who’s doing it over and over?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:32 AM
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Why would we be surprised that there’s women being abusive? We know this exist, and it’s stupid to claim otherwise. We also know the reasons for this kind of behaviour is different for men and women, which I think was made pretty clear in the examples stated above.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:27 AM
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And it’s funny because I thought you’d say something like that. And that’s exactly how I mean you’re not taking responsibility but instead expect everyone else to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:44 PM
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Making exceptions when celebrities come along doesn’t invalidate the rule if it holds true 99 % of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:43 PM
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I see what you’re saying. I’m a bit surprised though that this is something a lot of people would lie about. Like if you’ve made the choice to have sex with x amount of people, then stand up for it. No one forced you to do it, why lie to people about it? And I respect and at least try to understand what that must be like, to risk being forced to be a parent. Especially if that someone is a lier, that can’t be easy. I hope you find your princess one day though, you deserve it!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:38 PM
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This is only what I do between breaks of studying actually. It’s a great way to learn argumentative skills as well as how different ways people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:32 PM
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Sure, but this particular comment was about women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:28 PM
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No, I’m saying it’s a double standard to have opinions of the actions of only one of the sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:27 PM
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Wtf are you talking about? Every woman doesn’t have the need of validation from strangers in social media. And if that’s what you believe, who the fuck cares? You’re one person. Just quit acting like a 14 year old child and take some responsibility for gods sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:14 PM
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Great conclusion!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 08:52 PM
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Why though? It sounds more like a personal preference than a fact, at least to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:46 PM
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Maybe not a sport, but what’s really the point of it then? (Unless of course you’re trying to get pregnant, I get that much)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:01 PM
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I definitely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:54 PM
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You didn't really answer the question though, you know. I most definetely wouldn't want someone with no sexual or romantic experience. Why start from zero if you don't have to? And btw, I'm very much a virgin and that's thanks to my principles. It does work really
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:34 AM
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What about having self respect and at the same time simply being curious of how other people live their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:29 AM
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How else would you know? Her friends most likely know who she is. Why be such assholes? stop acting like you know what people are like based on nothing but their sex. That shit's so old
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:28 AM
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Fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:47 AM
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What, the internet? I’m pretty sure it’s universal. Being in presumed majority doesn’t mean your issues are all of our issues, especially when in reality it’s far from it 🤷‍♀️ But I find it interesting that you would interpret it this way instead of questioning what it is in the US particularly that result in this happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:46 AM
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I agree, this kinda crap makes it hard to believe anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:41 AM
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It still holds true whether it makes sense or not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:40 AM
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Your point being…?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:39 AM
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Well that’s just sad, I mean that that’s the result of society. I personally know plenty of women who chose to wait, because they didn’t want to do it with just anyone. They wanted to feel safe, which I totally get because however people might feel about sex, it is after all a very vulnerable position to put oneself in. This reason for still being a virgin, that you want to wait rather than simply do it with the first dude that hits on you, is my first thought when I about someone being a virgin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:38 AM
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How’s that the same thing even? Posting a butt only picture and posting a picture of you on a beach somewhere in a bikini, how’s that comparable? Why is it always our job to think of all the billion possible ways someone else might interpret what pictures we put up on our instagram or whatever? And you still somehow complain women overthink things 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:28 AM
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It certainly does. I’m so sorry it happened to you ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:22 AM
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So now this is a community for men only or for rape advocates only? I’m pretty sure it’d be better if you jumped over to whatever sad place it is you people go to to celebrate rapists because they put a woman in her place, or whatever twisted crap you believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:21 AM
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“In its narrow meaning, patriarchy refers to the system, historically derived from Greek and Roman law, in which the male head of the household had absolute legal and economic power over his dependent female and male family members. "Patriarchy in its wider definition means the manifestation and institutionalization of male dominance over women and children in the family and the extension of male dominance over women in society in general." (Lerner, 1986).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:17 AM
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He asked a simple question, I gave him a simple answer 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:12 AM
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Okay, care to explain? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:08 AM
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Not at all, it’s much more than looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:53 AM
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Yep. This is how a lot of women feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:52 AM
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Chris Hemsworth and Henry Cavill. Great examples 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:51 AM
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Haha I love this! It explains male behaviour really well!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:49 AM
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I did. You made it about you and your opinions. The topic at hand was about what it’s like for women. Are you a woman? No? Then it’s not about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:47 AM
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No, but you can get women by stop being hateful towards them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:46 AM
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‘No legal law’, funny that one! 😂 Anyway, as I mentioned before it’s not about whether something is or isn’t legal. We all live in this world and it only makes sense for all of us to do our best to be kind to one another. Just because you’re allowed to do something doesn’t mean you have to do it. 🤷‍♀️ And who said I was offended? Why would you think this is about my personal opinions? Unlike you apparently, I try to think about it from a bigger perspective. And the fact that you don’t care what …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:45 AM
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Well that’s the difference; one is an actual thing, the other is a state of mind
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:38 AM
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Exactly! What a great way of explaining it 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:29 AM
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That’s the spirit! Why be happy when you can hate people? As long as you are aware of the fact that it’s your own choice to be miserable and hate everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:28 AM
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No you’re right, it’s nothing like the patriarchy (or, in this case, the matriarchy), because I don’t think we have the same idea of what society looks like. As someone who grew up outside of the US I believe a lot of the problems there has to do with so many other things than something as simple as men vs women. The court system for instance, or rather the judicial system as a whole, are a problem of its own. The fact that one single judge have that much power is shocking to me, who’s used to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:27 AM
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It helps. Now I at least know where the problem lies; your belief in the fact that they present the truth to you. Good to know
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:12 AM
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Not really, just hating people makes no difference. It means you wait for other people to make a change for you instead of doing it yourself. It’ll only increase your sense of powerlessness. Anger, on the other hand, works well if you want to make changes. Not hate though, never hate. And I believe they hurts themselves the most by hating everyone else and themselves. Believing in yourself will make you feel better, which in turn makes other people happier to be around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:09 AM
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You’re allowed to disagree, but this isn’t about you, it’s about women. You refuting this is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:01 AM
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Then people ought to be learning how to interpret statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:57 AM
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Care to evolve, explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:54 AM
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I believe you have a really good point! The fact that they react as strongly as they do certainly tells you something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:54 AM
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Then maybe people would profit from reading up on alternative ways of thinking, rather than getting stuck in all of this fatalistic thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:52 AM
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So what if it’s free speech? There’s still something called moral and being a responsible person. They know what demographic are, meaning they’re impressionable, which means they have a responsibility. Just because you’re legally allowed to say something (or rather not being punished for it) doesn’t mean it’s right to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:50 AM
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Who are you a fan of exactly? The rapists? The rape advocates?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:47 AM
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I really appreciate your comment, because it makes things a lot clearer compared to someone who simply bashes someone from the first to the last sentence. Thanks you for participating 🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:46 AM
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So because someone did it 20-30 years ago it makes it okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:42 AM
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How’s that any different? You’re still focusing on what the victim should or shouldn’t do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:39 AM
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Stop raping maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:38 AM
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This institutional discrimination you’re mentioning, is that basically the equivalent of the patriarchy but the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:35 AM
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Wow, that is wild!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:33 AM
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You represent the group if you say you’re a part of it. Sure, it’s unfair, but that’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:30 AM
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Thanks for the tip, I’ll make sure to watch them!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:24 AM
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It’s pretty easily done if you’re an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:18 AM
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But what's the difference between telling women they should've been taking more preventative measures, and saying they're in part responsible for what happened to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:13 PM
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Thanks for clarifying this! I really don't understand how people find this so confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:38 PM
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What you think of freedom of speech here is irrelevant. I was referring to what you personally believe about this kind of behaviour, like if it were to happen at a dinner party you attended for example? Would you still be fine with it? What if you knew one of the women he was talking about, would it make any difference? I suppose you don't believe people should step in and stop an ongoing crime if they witnessed one, because it's not their job?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:36 PM
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noo, really? :(
/r/MensRights25/03/23 07:30 PM
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Yea and my point is that's bullshit, because in that case they would be happy whenever they find one, not loose interest the second they find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:28 PM
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Okay, fair point!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:26 PM
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so your moral compass is so fragile that all it takes to change it is the opinions of a few feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:18 PM
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Wait, what? I don’t follow
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:58 PM
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So what would make every man you’ve dated guess completely wrong? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:57 PM
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But who are women supposed to practice with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:55 PM
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I agree, this is so confusing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:54 PM
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Yea, most men care. What’s weird is that most men seem to care just as much if someone’s a virgin, which feels weird. It’s really confusing, tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:52 PM
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And if all of those things was what you didn’t want in a partner it would’ve been just fine! It’s the fact that you make assumptions, that’s why it’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:48 PM
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Judgmental=inclined to make moral judgments, having or displaying an overly critical point of view (Oxford English Dictionary). Yes, you’re judging, as in being judgmental
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:47 PM
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So how do you explain women, who themselves doesn’t sleep around, who believe other women have the same rights as men because all humans are equals?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:42 PM
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Another thing women seem to provide more than men is beauty and sex appeal. Women are very sexualized and socialized to wear make up, heels, sexy lingerie, dresses, jewellery, style 18inches of hair. Another daily, repetitive task which means men get the eye candy This is absolutely what men expect, and what is the counter to when women say they want a tall man. The fact that a lot of men aren’t able to put it in words like you did, doesn’t mean they don’t expect it. Very well written!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:18 PM
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Haha well I’m glad to hear that, cause I’ve actually been worried about the number of men here who seem to totally lack of awareness of this. Glad to hear you were taught this early on as well 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:20 PM
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Well, my spontaneous answer is ‘it depends on what the answer is’. But I think I get what your implying, and the truth is that idk 🤷‍♀️ I rarely do know why, until the question is answered though. Did you have anything on your mind you’d like to share?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:17 PM
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I’d like to find out what it is he believe he know that apply to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:06 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:00 PM
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Because it’s only relevant if you believe in biological determinism, which most of people aren’t. It was debunked ages ago
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:41 PM
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Lol that makes more sense, how silly of me 😂 thanks for clarifying! ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:38 PM
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You’re correct, and that’s why I didn’t say it. Him demanding others to accepting it makes him a psychopath, if accepting also includes adapting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:37 PM
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So? Everyone wants variety in some way. It’s the ‘accepting you can’t satisfy him’ that makes him a psychopath, because it means you’d expect others to adapt because you have a certain need instead of trying to figure out a solution together. It’s the lack of seeing your own part in it, and not taking responsibility for something that only exist in your head, that’s the problem, not that the need itself exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:26 PM
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Then what’s the problem? You’d still have most of the man’s coping mechanisms anyway. It’d work fine 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:22 PM
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If you make others miserable then yes, it’s your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:18 PM
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She was depressed because they thought she was funny? And that’s a bad thing? I’m confused
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:16 PM
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Yes, because that makes more sense; everyone else are lost and only you, who I guess not that many people are interested in, are the only few who know the truth. It makes perfect sense! Well, at least if we don’t care about rational thinking and reasoning based on logic, those kind of things
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:15 PM
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It’s anyone’s business if they also suffer from the consequences from it, as in the constant whining and never taking responsibility for your own actions
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:13 PM
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Probably because you never said anything about dating or sexual relationships in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:12 PM
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Or maybe you could’ve done like everyone else and realised this piece by piece from the time you were like 1,5 and realised mommy didn’t actually go anywhere when she was playing peekaboo with you. That’s the normal thing to do, and that’s why most people do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:11 PM
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And women don’t? I’m pretty sure most women learned a lot about which types of women you can and cannot trust for instance, since it’s pretty much what middle school and high school is all about, something that a loooot of men still seem to be unable to do. Why else would you go here to complain about all the type of women you dislike?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:08 PM
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Amazing, so you now know everything there’s to know about BOTH men and women and the way they perceive and are perceived by the world? Cool! I’ve been a woman my entire life and would never state that I know anything but my own experiences, and a few of struggles and awesomeness I share with other women though. Would you please enlighten me? 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:05 PM
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Do you mean it as if a woman and a man switched bodies, including everything that’s positive and negative with it (as in Freaky Friday or Scooby Doo), or if what you think of as a woman’s mind would instead be born in a man’s body (as in someone who identify as trans), or something completely different?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:03 PM
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That’s true. However, it’s also not what you stated to begin with, meaning it’s irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:57 PM
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Sounds like you’re claiming all men are actually psychopaths and women should simply accept it. Or, if this was actually true (which thank god it isn’t) maybe we simply dump men as a whole and live happily alone without them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:56 PM
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Eww for real? If rape culture wasn’t the reason according to them, what was then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:53 PM
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Fair point. A lot of people probably don’t know themselves what it is or isn’t that make them react in a certain way. It’s unfortunate because it’s hard to do much about it. The easy, but unfortunately not very helpful, answer is empathy, as in a changing of perspective. Would you want someone to x to you or would it bother you? The tricky thing is of course to be aware of what you yourself know and what it is you’re presenting outwardly to other people. I’ve tried to improve a lot of this mysel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:58 AM
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Yea this is such an important part of our work, and I think it’s just sad that people forget that even if they’re used to how things work it doesn’t mean everyone else do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:50 AM
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How’s that relevant to the topic at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:46 AM
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No one said it was a thirst trap though. People are allowed to post pictures of themselves in summer as well. If some people choose to view those pictures as sexual, that’s their problem, not the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:14 AM
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I'm sorry this happened to you, and that you didn't recieve the kind of support you deserved. Even if women in theory could be more seriously hurt physically in a situation of sexual assault, the psychological harm, what you decribe so well, is certainly the same. And the fact that the women you told this found out in other ways, aknowledged it is truly horrifying, and just sad. Thank you for sharing this, it was valuable to hear.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 07:09 PM
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Women being seen as victims and men as perpetrators or protectors are your ideology then, if that's what you happen to believe. The fact that your suggestion for actions are based on assumptions means there's an ideology. The assumptions are based on other assumptions, right? The idea that men would suffer more than women in today's society is part of an ideology, an ideology where men are now viewed as victims rather than agents. Sure, you can advocate for men's rights. The kind of advocacy, or…
/r/MensRights24/03/23 06:55 PM
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Very good point this, I have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:45 PM
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How is posting a picture of yourself the same as him looking at pictures of other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:35 PM
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My point is that the fact that you've interacted with hundreds of women doesn't validate your point. I've also interacted with a lot of women, why would your conclusion be more correct than mine? The answer is: it wouldn't, because that's not how you evaluate things
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:13 PM
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Yea, I see what you mean. It never happened to me though, not because I'm lucky, but because I've never been in a relationship or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:01 PM
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How interesting. I kinda act that way sometimes, when I feel appreciated by and really like someone. I see how it could make you feel suspicious, I probably would if I were you as well. I know I'm lucky this way, that I sort of grew up to become a swan, even though I started out as a bullied ugly duckling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:57 PM
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So it’s rather ‘not stupid’ than intelligent in other words
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:53 AM
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Most people have no clue what a truly intelligent person are like though 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:52 AM
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Lol I was referring to his comment, not the study itself 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:51 AM
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She’s not taking it personal, she’s fed up with arguments that are statistically insignificant 🤷‍♀️ it’s not possible to discuss a topic like this as long as people don’t use actual facts, and instead use their own personal experience as a way to prove things. You don’t know why someone would be rejected, not even the person who’s rejecting might know. All we know is that yea, height makes a difference, but not in any way as much a lot of you might think. Unless we’re only talking about the youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:46 AM
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So are most women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:30 PM
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No, for real? I thought they had Girl Scouts already?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:27 PM
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It hasn’t made me hate men, but it has definitely made me feel more afraid of men, especially when it comes to dating. I recently started dating and haven’t that much experience with things. I assume it makes a difference concerning what makes you afraid or trusting or whatever. I should probably mention that my first dating experience ended in sexual assault and it’s taking me until now, 7 years later, to feel ready to start dating again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:24 PM
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And the opposite to you; if it make you feel worse, by all means
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:10 PM
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So? It says nothing about the sample or the population as a whole, nothing about how the data was collected, nothing about how many answered and who didn’t answer, how the questions were asked and so on. All of this matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:52 PM
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Not necessarily a bias though, that’ll mostly happen unless you’re transparent with your own inherent beliefs and values beforehand. That’s what I believe is the problem in many of the discussions here, that we tend to assume a bunch of things without being aware of how it affects our own perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:35 PM
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Okay, so you mean literally male spaces! I was thinking of it as in social activities where men can meet and hang out together where women didn’t hang out. 😅 Tbh, I believe you’re making a fair point, especially the part about separate learning environments. I have ADHD myself and never felt like anything was made so that I could actually succeed, and I’m still a girl, meaning it at least wasn’t as bad for me as my male counterparts. It’s a really sad picture you’re describing, but because I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:33 PM
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Yea, and those dudes have beliefs that are the same as conservatism, otherwise they wouldn’t interpret the ‘observations’ the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:19 PM
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Most people who get what intersectionality is believe it’s a good thing. And so what? Social liberalism is still liberalism 🤷‍♀️ and tbh, I’m from Sweden and I don’t have a clue what counts as socialism, cause that’s never been what we’ve had here. I know people overseas believe we do though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:17 PM
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So? You’re doing too much of something the first time and too much of something else the other time, and also care what that kind of girls think of you. What did you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:14 PM
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Unfortunately, yes. But I mean what could you expect? It is after all kinda scary to take responsibility for things if you’ve never really done that before, or if you’ve been punished for it when you did. 🫤
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:46 PM
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Not really, I say it all the time and nothing happen. I say it in a respectful way though, and I’m a woman myself. And what you’re describing actually seems like it’s very much an American problem, alternatively a North American or Anglospheric problem
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:44 PM
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Equality like suicide rates? What the f is that even?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:41 PM
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Agreed. What you’ve written is simply numbers though, not data
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:40 PM
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Nope they’re not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:38 PM
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Meaning you don’t know how to interpret statistics and that what you’re doing is the same as pseudoscience
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:38 PM
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Okay, let me ask this then; what’s the purpose of male spaces? I mean if strip clubs with female strippers aren’t a typically male space
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:28 PM
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Any examples? Or it’s just easier than accepting not everything is about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:26 PM
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Oh, that crap
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:26 PM
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Yea, and like 10 % of American women have ever used Tinder. Speed dating is more likely what extroverted women would try as well, meaning the sample won’t be representative of even a small part of all women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:22 PM
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Meaning the population was skewed from the beginning, meaning it can’t be generalised
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:20 PM
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And most men would dismiss a woman for a bunch of other things, alternatively start a relationship and realise things they dislike when it’s too late
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:19 PM
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And your point is…?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:12 PM
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Example: feminists who say all men are rapists, murderers, violent, trash and so on are wrong, and most importantly, they do may more harm than good by simply complaining and not taking any responsibility at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:09 PM
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The part that want women to have the same opportunities as men, and not having to adapt themselves to men’s wants and needs to be able to get those. That part
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:07 PM
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You’d have to first trick them into learning scientific method, statistics, epistemology and ontology. THEN, maybe they’d listen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:03 PM
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How are they manipulated or lied to though, why isn’t it generalising and not listening?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:02 PM
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Of course they don’t, because it’s people who lack self awareness. That’s why you yourself can’t really tell 🤷‍♀️ women can though, you should listen to them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:01 PM
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Sexual liberation? Yea, that’s liberalism, and it’s not a leftist ideology. Identity politics basically fall under this category as well. And you whats your take on socialism, Marx?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:59 PM
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Red pill is based on conservatism, it’s not possible to be both progressive and a believer in red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:56 PM
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Why would you need a theory to explain to men that women don’t exist to fulfil their needs? Shouldn’t this be obvious on its own?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:55 PM
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Male spaces? Like strip clubs?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:52 PM
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How is locking your door misandrist…? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:52 PM
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And this alternative misandrist cult is…?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:51 PM
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Finally! I’ve been waiting for someone to point these things out! Good job! 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:50 PM
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Why wouldn’t this be relevant to dating though. You didn’t even ask what kind of trauma I was referring to, you simply assumed it wouldn’t matter. What if it’s trauma due to sexual assault and/or in connection to a dating experience? Obviously it would affect the person being asked more, especially if it’d trigger related memories. And who said anything about being neurodivergent, and why would it ably be relevant if you compared it the way you did? Either you’ve got to have incredibly high thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:25 AM
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Wow, so it’s always about you, the man? That’s pretty fucked up, not gonna lie. As someone who doesn’t have the gut to even be naked in front of someone, I totally understand why you wouldn’t wanna have sex anytime. It’s a pretty scary and vulnerable thing to do, however much you might like it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:10 AM
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What about social anxiety and trauma, why isn’t that dating failure of a woman? Men from all across the field and every spectrum always seem to be included. What about women with mental health issues? My point is not every woman have the luxury to simple exist in the seemingly easy way you describe. Why does any of it matter if you’re too anxious to even go on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:07 PM
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Yea sorry, I’m from Europe. 1800s is not really considered old here. If you specifically wanna talk about the US though; marital rape mad legal until the 70s. 🤷‍♀️ pressuring someone into sex is also rape. And women raping men or boys is like what, 1 % in total? Not really the relevant part in other words. Not agreeing with you isn’t being delusional btw, and considering people in general probably agree with my stance, it seems like you’re the one in the wrong here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:00 PM
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Or maybe consider the fact that a woman’s decision not to sleep with her new bf is because SHE doesn’t want to do it, not because she doesn’t want to pleasure him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:31 PM
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I agree, it’s tough enough being a virgin, the least you can do is have fun on your own 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:28 PM
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Men played by the old rules? You know ‘the old rules’ are rape, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:26 PM
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I’m sure that’s a reason for it. However, it doesn’t really help those of us who want to be able to understand to support men in best ways possible. It’s awful that those types of women exist, but unfortunately, the rest of us can’t really do much about them. What we can do, on the other hand, is to try to make things better. But for that to happen we need men to give us advice on how we can do that.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 10:25 AM
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Thanks for your support! Tbh, you’re the kind of man that makes me feel these issues are worth fighting for. ❤️
/r/MensRights22/03/23 01:30 AM
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I can see why you’d think of it that way. From my perspective, who’ve studied several disciplines of social science for several years, including feminist theories before this latest wave begun, classical feminism makes total sense, and is based on realistic goals. I have no clue whatsoever what the kind of feminism that’s been going on for the past decade is. I personally can’t stand it, and I definitely don’t believe things are better the way a lot of things are right now, especially concerning…
/r/MensRights21/03/23 03:03 AM
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So a society where the rights that are being advocated for apply isn’t a utopia then?
/r/MensRights21/03/23 02:41 AM
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I find your answer very interesting, and useful to be made aware of as a woman. I don’t mean to be offensive or anything, but it really makes me feel a lot better to know men have this many thoughts too, because you tend to feel there’s something wrong with you sometimes for thinking this much instead of simply acting. Don’t get me wrong, I know how to act in the majority of social situations intuitively, but it’s hard not to think about all of the things that might or might not be important to …
/r/MensRights21/03/23 02:37 AM
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“An ideology is a set of opinions or beliefs of a group or an individual.” What’s the difference?
/r/MensRights21/03/23 01:49 AM
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Okay then. The following empirical matieral is what I've found to be the most relevant, and hopefully what paints the most accurate picture, of the subject at hand: Firslty, use your earlier comment as a starting point. This is what I've been able to conclude so far: Society is not male dominated. Male dominance doesn't privilege men over women The system doesn't privilege men and subjugate women for men's express benefit 1: if society is no longer dominated by men, the most likely conclusion is…
/r/MensRights21/03/23 12:35 AM
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To answer your question about how such a situation might look like; imagine you're at a coffee shop and you observe a man and a woman who are sitting at a table together, side by side, and chatting to one another (meaning they're on a date). It looks a bit awkward so it's most likely one of their first dates, if not the very first. You're there by yourself, reading a newspaper (yes, I mean one of those made out of actual paper) and enjoying your coffe. You glance at them quitely from under your …
/r/MensRights20/03/23 11:12 PM
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Unless you question another woman's behaviour, especially if it's the way she acts towards men. After that point you basically turn into a man in their eyes apparently.
/r/MensRights20/03/23 10:49 PM
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So men's rights have no ideology backing it up?
/r/MensRights20/03/23 10:45 PM
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Isn't that part of the point though, to not assume all women are like 'those' women?
/r/MensRights20/03/23 10:44 PM
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That's such bullshit, I mean it takes to two tango. If there's anything I myself find to be easy, it's spreading emotional warmth and being emotionally supportive. It basically takes no effort at all! And when it comes to sex, I swear, it has to be more of an effort not to engage compared to actually engaging in and being enthusiastic about it. I mean, the least you can do is show some enthusiasm, right? Not that hard
/r/MensRights20/03/23 10:25 PM
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Lol I just imagined her lying down with both arms by her side and occasionally doing weird spasms with her legs from time to time. Dead fish! :'D
/r/MensRights20/03/23 10:20 PM
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Never her fault, ever? Wow, that'd be kinda impressive if it was true. I mean, how unlucky can one person really be if everything always happen to you rather than because of you?
/r/MensRights20/03/23 10:18 PM
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Thanks for sharing. It feels like a lot of us women NEED to hear these kinds of stories, because it just seems so unbelievable to us otherwise.
/r/MensRights20/03/23 10:15 PM
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What point? No emotions were involved in my response, at least not what I suppose you'd define as emotions. What's wrong with being curious and being interested in learning new things to understand other people's experiences better?
/r/MensRights20/03/23 10:09 PM
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Absolutely, that’ll unfortunately be the consequences. But wouldn’t it be easier to handle if you were aware of the fact that those women only made up a small minority? I mean I get why it might be interpreted as a way to say those women are victims, but was more thinking about the fact that because they’re special cases maybe it’s make it easier to think of them as a few tragic exceptions, and they’d most likely stay that way no matter what you did. I think of it as a way to give yourself a bre…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 04:53 PM
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Oh, so it’s not necessarily dominance over the woman, but rather over life or maybe other people? Yea, that makes sense 💁‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:39 PM
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Good point! Based on attachment theory I believe the estimate is usually about 1 out of 3. That include both men and women though, idk how it’s split between them. The majority of those are probably men, since they’re also less likely to find support elsewhere combined with the unreasonable standards society put on men generally. Maybe it’s like 10 percent of women, who are like this? They’d also be less likely to find a stabile partner, so it’ll probably seem like they’re more prevalent than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:38 PM
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Good point! Based on attachment theory I believe the estimate is usually about 1 out of 3. That include both men and women though, idk how it’s split between them. The majority of those are probably men, since they’re also less likely to find support elsewhere combined with the unreasonable standards society put on men generally. Maybe it’s like 10 percent of women, who are like this? They’d also be less likely to find a stabile partner, so it’ll probably seem like they’re more prevalent than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:37 PM
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Actually i did none of if. It’s pretty weird that’s how you’d view it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:31 PM
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And you found out all about their lives during that time? I have most likely interacted with even more women than you, since I’ve been active in a female dominated sport for years, I am a woman myself meaning I even causally interact with women in the changing room at the gym even. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:41 AM
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And how would you know this? Did you talk to all of whatever women you’ve apparently creepily been observing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:28 AM
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You do realise these women are most likely also the ones who’ve experienced some sort of trauma growing up? This is a typical behaviour of someone who were taught that they doesn’t deserve being loved
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:21 AM
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Okay, let me rephrase: why include a stranger unless it’s necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:27 PM
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"Women like dominance" wait, what are we all supposed to like that? how, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:02 PM
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This was the creepiest and yet most accurate decription I've read. No wonder it scares the crap out of you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:00 PM
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That will probably also work just fine if men start acting like leaders, meaning being accountable, in today's society instead of blaming everyone else. No need for a dystopian future
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:55 PM
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It's not normal to feel the need to be desired by ALL men or ALL women though. That's desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:53 PM
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Probably, if that's how you decide to waste your time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:51 PM
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And you have the power to decide whether it bothers you or not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:50 PM
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How does men's view of other men as being disposable invalidate gender equality? Seems like quite the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:50 PM
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What about everyone over 16 then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:49 PM
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Most women would prefer other ways to take care of that though. Why include a random stranger unless it's necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:47 PM
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are they also extroverted?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:45 PM
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Yea, but now they’re addicts, meaning I’ve stopped blame them by now
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:44 AM
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You love what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:05 AM
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Yes, it’s so annoying when men continue to validate those kinds of awful women that other women were taught to avoid as early as high school, or even earlier. This still baffles me 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:58 PM
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It’s interesting, because I’ve realised how many men seem to crave physical and emotional intimacy, not necessarily sex. It’s both really sweet and quite sad at the same time, like a few of the ones I’ve talked to even tell me it’s because they aren’t close to their parents (and I don’t necessarily mean that they literally tell me, because in most cases it’s rather their behaviour). A question for you though; how do you feel if you’ve begun talking to a woman you find attractive and she sort of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:56 PM
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Personally, I blame those who do drugs just for fun, those who aren’t addicted but still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:46 PM
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This is weird, like why wouldn’t you be able to be both the Madonna and the whore, a lady in the streets and a slut in the sheets? When a man respects you AND makes you feel beautiful, you sort of want to be a slut in the sheets for him. At least I do. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:45 PM
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What? Did you just say the first thing that popped up in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 07:07 PM
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And that means it can’t also be rude or disrespectful?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:49 AM
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What? Do you believe women consciously avoid penetration so that they bleed their first time? Because that’s what it sounds like. Of course there’s other ways but why would you limit yourself? It makes no sense. The hymen basically don’t exist anyway, at least not in the way people used to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:46 AM
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She sounds like a pretty big loser to me, and he sounds like a good man. The ones who think it’s the opposite are probably losers themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:27 AM
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Probably because those men you mentioned, the ones with the high paying jobs and stuff, are already taken. They’re also less likely to bitch about things loudly to everyone who’s around
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:25 AM
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Why would you assume that though?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:00 AM
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Lol so by 'natural' you actually mean 'evolved through evolution'? You do know that's only one theory that tries to explain why some men rape, right? It presupposes that all rapes are commited for the same reason for example, and that is to procreate. How does it explain incestual rape for instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 12:59 AM
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Or you could always find yourself an intelligent woman. Just a thought
/r/TheRedPill18/03/23 12:03 AM
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Oh okay. So you when you say sex drive it only includes the need to have sex with women rather than simply being horny? Edit: dudes, there's a thing called masturbation. That's sex as well
/r/MensRights17/03/23 11:38 PM
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How do you mean men's sex drive it requires something from women?
/r/MensRights17/03/23 11:17 PM
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In what way do think men have a better grasp of women's mood swings (whatever that includes)? And what do you mean by women's mating behaviour? Personally I'm neither one of those categories, to me men are basically impossible to read since most of them barely seem to use facial expressions. It's really confusing
/r/MensRights17/03/23 11:15 PM
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In what way do you think it would make a difference if women understood this fact?
/r/MensRights17/03/23 11:11 PM
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Lol good point
/r/MensRights17/03/23 11:10 PM
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So how do you suppose it should be instead?
/r/MensRights17/03/23 11:09 PM
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Thank you very much!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:05 PM
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Thanks for explaining! I really like the way you right btw, just wanted to mention it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:46 PM
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So? That doesn't mean the women working at those places or being offered jobs there aren't qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:45 PM
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Who claims the theory is applicable to both men and women? Maslow published his hierarchy of needs in the US in 1943 against a background of war, rationing, and 18 million women employed in World War II related jobs. Inspite of this, he includes only two women in his study on public self actualisers, which is the study that he based his theory off of, meaning his empirical material consists of only two women. This fact have been seen as proof that “self actualisation is hardly possible at all fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:58 PM
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I’m going to save this commit because this was the best way I’ve seen this being explained 😊👌
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:25 PM
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Why does nature matter here…?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:10 PM
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So women should basically not date at all? Because basically all men are stronger than all women, with a few exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:08 PM
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Are you aware of how many messages women get? If you can filter out and skip a few of them, you’ll do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:06 PM
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So to you virginity would also mean she never masturbated?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:00 PM
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I was thinking the exact same. How can this still exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:59 PM
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How do you mean you were shamed and for what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:53 PM
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How is this a lie? All of you’re examples are basically spot on examples of how to be rude 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:45 PM
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Don’t you think it’s different to prefer a woman to be a virgin is quite different from, well, basically all other sort of preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:44 PM
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So THIS is what you guys think logical reasoning looks like? Finally, I’ve wanted to know this since forever lol 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:41 PM
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In what way do you believe men and women think differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:38 PM
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You think? What part of RP do women tend to dislike though, in your experience? Is it the fact that they don’t agree, get offended, don’t understand, or anything else entirely? Every time I try to get it I simply end up concluding it doesn’t hold up. It sounds like it’s totally made up to fit an already existing narrative which benefit men and punish women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:37 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:32 PM
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But what is the explanation though, that you avoid telling them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:31 PM
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Why are you so sure it’s you being rational or using reason that makes them respect you less though? The point of reason is that it’s reasonable. If you don’t explain things clearly then it won’t make sense, meaning it won’t be reasonable. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:33 PM
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What if it’s you who don’t know how logic works? Most people would be pissed off if you make up reasons instead of being honest with them. Your value lessens when you lie to people and even if they’re not aware of it themselves, women are typically better than men at noticing the subtle inconsistencies that lying commonly result in. And you mix up ‘logic’ and ‘rationality’ btw. You’re describing rationality, but that’s probably not what you’re even using. If you were, people wouldn’t be upset wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:31 PM
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And that’s called a naturalistic fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:10 PM
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Or it’s simply a social construct, like most of our stereotypical beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:58 PM
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It’s more like a common assumption or judgement though, which is more likely what sociological research support
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:57 PM
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You mean you already had a bunch of unfounded assumptions about people’s amount of sexual partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:56 PM
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Really? 😲 Well that means it has to be the truth! I’ll never eat sugar or carbs ever again!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:54 PM
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Exactly, thank you! It’s not the fact that your explanation is wrong, it’s the fact that you’re not telling the truth that’s the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:49 PM
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The problem of that strategy is that you won’t know what the other person decides your reason is, because they definitely will. People don’t like not knowing things, that’s basically why religion is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:48 PM
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Exactly, it’s not that long time ago. I hope your mom ended up okay eventually 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 04:30 PM
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True, although the difference (in some cases) is that things in society aren’t really that stabile anymore. It doesn’t take much for things to change back to what things were a few decades ago. I’m currently writing an essay about this and part of the assignment was to read about what’s happening to women in Turkey. That’s some crazy shit really, cause they’ve recently been talking about getting rid of a law that criminalises spousal abuse for instance. It’s quite scary really
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:47 AM
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How do you know that’s what lots of people are doing though? And is it relevant because men tend to dislike when women have slept with many men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:41 AM
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Women have always outperformed men socially though, it’s nothing new really 🤷‍♀️ I think girls are taught early on that if they want something in life they need to work for it, that nothing comes for free. Idk if boys are taught this kind of thing as well but it’d probably be good for them, because it feels like things are just going to get tougher unfortunately 🫤
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:23 AM
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But the men of today didn’t live through what past generations did though. To them this is all new
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:18 AM
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Why do you assume dating multiple people also means having sex with multiple people though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:57 PM
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You asked me how often I meet this type of men and I answered based on my experience. If that’s not what you wanted to know you should’ve asked a different question
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:10 PM
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But it doesn’t matter! Viewing rape as anything other than a deeply disturbed action makes it problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:59 AM
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No actually this makes even less sense. Equality isn’t about men and women doing the exact same thing objectively or quantitatively speaking, but rather in an abstract or qualitative way. There’s a reason why it’s called ‘equality’ and not ‘equity’. That’s something else
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:47 AM
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That’s crazy really! I don’t what’s worse really, that it’s such a big difference between men and women, or the fact that it’s not really spoken about. It’s freaking half of the population we’re talking about 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:43 AM
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So you’re saying everything has changed for the better now, that there’s nothing left from the past when women were being mistreated?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 12:40 AM
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But the reason why humans find symmetrical faces more attractive is because it has to do with a lack of brain injury and such. It’s a sign of healthy genes and a well developed human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 12:38 AM
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Would it be a privilege in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:21 PM
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But what part of this has to do with women being privileged?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:19 PM
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If someone were to offer a woman a job she isn’t qualified for it’s on that boss though, not the woman. It’s not even necessarily a good thing, getting a job you’re not qualified for. But of course it’ll seem this way to men who struggle to find any job at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:17 PM
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You do realise it’s only sexual assault by law if it makes you feel uncomfortable or offended, right? Simply touching or grabbing on its own isn’t a criminal act. Even if women do this to men as often as men do it to women, it’s more likely that it’ll affect women in a negative way. So yea, it does make a difference even if the action happens as often to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:15 PM
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If you have sex with someone who’s too drunk to be able to consent, it’s called rape
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:04 PM
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It’s probably more about Maslows world view though, which based on when he lived, most likely included the belief that women basically had no sex drive. Or he didn’t even think about it, considering all research at the time used men as test subjects.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 09:08 AM
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Not necessarily a need in the same sense though. men want sex which isn’t the same as wanting children. All of the other ones are short term needs which makes the act of having sex fit in a lot better than simply procreation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 09:05 AM
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I agree, with that many ‘not this kind of answer’ disclaimers it’s hard not to think he’s after one very specific answer. Like why wouldn’t it has to do with how Maslow defined a ‘need’ for instance? That’s highly relevant to the question
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 09:00 AM
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Omg how did I miss such an obvious answer? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 08:58 AM
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The urge is not really the same as a need though, is it? 🤔 it’s a genuine question btw, English isn’t my first language 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 08:58 AM
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That’s a great point, it sure seems like it’s the fact that women make the decisions that actually bugs them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:37 AM
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Well the literal meaning is that now women can be prostitutes, which I assume wasn’t the message. If it means women are able to have enjoy having sex without being punished for it, meaning do exactly what men always have done, then there’s not really a problem, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:01 AM
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Okay, but men are also typically looking for shorter relationships, as in casual sex, whereas women typically look for a long term partner. Of course you’ll be more picky with a long term partner, men are most likely as well
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:54 AM
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Honestly, I meet this kind of men all the time 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:02 AM
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So what, women with those kinds of profiles are what men choose? In that case, how’s that on women and not men who still go for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:54 PM
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What do you mean, why would women be the reason men are alone? Men are the ones who can change things if they’re alone, same as women would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:52 PM
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Yup, you’re probably right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:51 PM
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Those men are attractive to you, that’s not the same as them being universally attractive or anything. Sure, a few women would probably sleep with an attractive man once or twice, but it doesn’t mean she’d want to stay with him or anything. Men do this as well, a lot of women who men want to sleep with have a hard time finding a partner. The fact that men want sex more than women and women want relationships more than men (which, btw, isn’t actually true according to research), means it’s basica…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:50 PM
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So because you can’t observe animals giving each other consent it has to mean rape is a naturally occurring thing in all animals? That’s the stupidest thing I’ve heard. And yes, you’re basically saying women are to be grateful for men not raping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:45 PM
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I don’t know where you’re from, but there certainly is still social norms against women having casual sex. Your comments are proof of this. So you’re comparing past ideas on women not being seen as adults to men not being allowed to rape? You do know that rape have been frowned upon for a longer period than society have been able to enforce the laws? I mean sure, the entire judicial system is a modern construct. It doesn’t mean the social norms it was made to uphold are recent inventions. Men’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:32 PM
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That’s not women being hypergamous though, that’s women not needing men as much as they need women. Why would you settle with someone who’s not bringing anything positive to your life? How’s it women’s fault that men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:17 PM
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That’s not because of hypergamy, that’s because women don’t need men as much as they need women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:14 PM
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It’s rather men’s access to sex though, not their sexuality. It’s about all people’s equal opportunity and right to do as they please and at the same time protecting other people’s rights. I think it’s dangerous to view it as women are restricting men, because they’re not - men are allowed to go after women, just as women are allowed to go after men. What individual people decide to do or not do is a completely different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:08 PM
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Society used to treat people differently only because of their gender. Now it’s equal. Men are not restricted because they are allowed to do as they please, same as women are. Men aren’t ‘left behind’, because that implies they’re totally powerless to make any kind of change to their situation, which isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:01 PM
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So both men’s and women’s bodies would be used then? Great, why not make more people miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:56 PM
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I agree. I said victims because that’s how I interpreted the comment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:54 PM
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You mean shaming women having sex in other words? Don’t act like it’d be shaming both men and women, cause we both know that wouldn’t be it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:53 PM
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Not really, women weren’t even considered to be adults before. Unless you’re saying men were the perpetrators women weren’t really victims either. Not everything is either black or white
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:52 PM
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No I get that, but you’re still acting like it’s comparable which it isn’t in any way. So I assumed you had a reason behind mentioning it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:49 PM
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What does that even mean? 😅 both men and women tend to date within their own social group you know, and it makes a lot of sense. You kinda want to be with someone who’s on the same level as you yourself 💁‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:48 PM
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I wasn’t looking for you to respond the question of male loneliness, I was asking why the reasoning rarely is about men’s own actions. I don’t expect you to know what every man is thinking or why they’re acting (or not acting) the way they do, same as I don’t know why all women act the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:46 PM
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Actually it seems like more people than ever date within their own social class, at least according to the studies cited in this article.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:43 PM
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Okay, and who would make the arrangements then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:23 PM
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How would you know it’s the same quality of work though?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:12 PM
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How do you know what ‘league’ you’re in?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:16 PM
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How stupid, especially in the US where already having money is what typically make you rich and successful 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:11 PM
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Okay, do you have any examples of this? And is it the same no matter what kind of education?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:04 PM
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I believe that’s rich people you’re referring to, not educated people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:04 PM
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I agree, at the end of the day it’s a big problem to see all men as possible predators. The problem is rather that there’s not really any other way of dealing with it. You don’t know which men are the dangerous ones, therefore the only way to protect yourself is to treat everyone as possible assailants. What else could you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:47 AM
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Of course, as usual it has to be women who are delusional, never men. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:37 AM
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Okay, how does it answer how people define what it means to be single though, i.e. not being in a committed relationship? Unless they ask people specifically you’d never know, which is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:36 AM
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Is it though? Doesn’t it sort of depend on context? And who get to decide what someone’s actions mean? Is it based on an outside observation or the intentions behind the action? People can respond very differently to the exact same treatment, because they have different experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:11 AM
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So women used to be restricted by laws and by social pressure to not sleep around. There’s no laws in place to keep men from sleeping around as far as I know. Honestly, I don’t get it. Please explain to me what these restrictions for men are exactly (if you’re up for it, of course. I know this isn’t your job in any way)? Because I seriously don’t get it. And I’m not trying to be mean or anything, it’s just that I grew up without any close male relatives and I really feel like I need to know what…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:57 PM
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Wait, what? How does it make any sense? What if your dad died?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:02 PM
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No wonder you’re sad if this is what your world view is like
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:41 PM
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So men are basically helpless victims now, that’s what you’re saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:39 PM
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How exactly are men restricted in their sexuality? They’re allowed to sleep with whoever they like, aren’t they? Same as women in other words
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:37 PM
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Ehhh exactly what about this is natural? Does is make it right? Are you suggesting rape is natural because ‘that’s how things used to be’, and men are only doing women a favour when they’re not raping them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:36 PM
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‘Now a girl can hoe’, what exactly does this even mean? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:34 PM
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Easy compared to what or who? Why would you think it’s the same for all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:33 PM
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And men aren’t…?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:32 PM
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What exactly is ‘democratic sexuality’?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:31 PM
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Yea, this is what happen when everyone suddenly use intersectionality and patriarchy without even knowing what it actually mean. It was never about ‘all men are bad and have an easier life’, that’s just stupid and highly unlikely. Most men need support as much as any woman do, probably more than some women. Same goes for women, because we’re not all the same and it’s only dumb to keep telling yourself that. I’ve gotta ask though, in what way are men supposed be discriminated against in the schoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:30 PM
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What would a regulated dating market look like then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:26 PM
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I agree, you still kinda feel ashamed as it is for enjoying sex. We don’t need to go back x amount of years as well. 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:25 PM
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Why isn’t it ever because of men themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:17 PM
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That’s basically always been the case though, the people who actually do something are the ones who are also likely to be interesting to others. Same with both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:16 PM
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Sure, a lack of empathy of educated people is the problem 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:14 PM
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What exactly do you think ‘exploring one’s sexuality’ means?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:13 PM
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For real, there’s women who talk that way to men who simply ask them out? That’s awful, wtf is wrong with them?? Still, not really personal. That’s clearly more about the woman and part of her personal problems than the man being told no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:57 PM
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What privileges are you referring to? I don’t know of any where I’m from 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:51 PM
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Wow, that sounds like a very old fashioned way of defining rape. Here’s how rape is defined according to Swedish (where I’m from lol) law: “Anyone who, with a person who does not participate voluntarily, carries out vaginal, anal or oral intercourse or another sexual act which, in view of the seriousness of the violation, is comparable to intercourse, is convicted of rape. The same applies to anyone who induces a person who does not participate voluntarily to commit or endure such an act” Wtf is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:42 PM
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I disagree, I mean those things are what can make people seem more or less attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:18 PM
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Actually it’s not ‘facts’. Those kinds of studies you’re referring to only show how we tend to treat pretty people better. It says nothing about how it’s because we believe them to have a greater value as people. You need to do other kinds of studies to find that out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:17 PM
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Idk, what about things like posture, eye contact, agreeableness, smiling, approachability etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:59 PM
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Oh same here ☺️ it’s such an odd feeling when they don’t try to trip you or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:58 PM
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Bullshit, the people thinking that way are the ones with freaking less value. That’s a horrible way of thinking. It sounds very much like undeserved entitlement to me. And it makes me mad cause it’s dumb af 😠
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:57 PM
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So non attractive people are seen as less than attractive people? As in less value or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:52 PM
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Lol yea I get what you’re saying; most people are generally thought of as either attractive or not attractive by the vast majority of people. I was thinking about what it refers to other than pure looks though, which should vary more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:50 PM
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To me you seem like an awesome person ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:46 PM
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I’m the same way. ☺️ do you also find it hard to get used to the fact that people might actually like you now, I mean compared to when you were younger and people bullied you? It’s an odd feeling to me and it’s hard to get used to 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:45 PM
0

Lol which countries are you referring to? Cause there’s basically no socialist or communist countries today 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:42 PM
0

Oh yea, maybe I do have relatives way back that aren’t only Vikings 🤔😅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:39 PM
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Interesting perspective 🤔 but at the same time what a weird way of thinking, it makes absolutely no sense! Talk about generalisation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:36 PM
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Well all of this sort of depends on what you mean by ‘an attractive man’, cause it’s not really something that can be defined objectively or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:34 PM
8

Less than what?? Why do people keep saying this? You can’t compare one thing to nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:33 PM
1

Are you actually asking this question or are you simply trying to make some sort of point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:31 PM
5

Lol where did you get that idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:30 PM
2

What exactly is your definition of equality then? Cause this ain’t it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:29 PM
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How…? It’s literally a question about men’s ideas of how women should act
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:28 PM
7

Exactly, I couldn’t agree more! Respect, as well as not taking everything personally and therefore shame the other person for rejecting you, are key!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:27 PM
1

Only if you’re a shitty person yourself though. You still gotta choose someone that fits the same standards you provide yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:03 AM
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No you’re probably right, women put up with way more than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:01 AM
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Yea those baseless demands and drama women really suck. I believe most women dislike them as well, at least the ones I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:00 AM
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Lol I respect you even more finding out you’re from Texas. You seem like a very smart and insightful man. I wish there were more like you 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:58 AM
1

He can do more than that; he can read between the lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:56 AM
2

Apparently ‘liberal’ means the same as social democratic does here in Europe, not neoliberalism (which is total crap btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:54 AM
2

Well that also depend on how you define sexual abuse though. Like someone pointed out earlier, the majority of women (I’d say it’s more like most) experience this one way or another. It also shows that a lot of men don’t know what counts as sexual assault, maybe that’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:51 AM
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Why would you believe it’s only a few percentage that are responsible for all sexual assaults though?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:48 AM
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How’s it a benefit of women and a punishment for men that women are being more selective? Men should too. Why accept being treated like shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:44 AM
1

In that case you’ve had a really bad luck in dating, if this is your personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:42 AM
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Lol and what exactly do men have to do then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:41 AM
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Or you’re misinterpreting things as a result of your shitty world view
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:39 AM
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Wow. Did your parents not love you enough as a child? Cause this is one sad (and tbh, quite pathetic) world view. Of course you’ll end up miserable if this is how you view the world and the people in it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:38 AM
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Lol why would it be most? Makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:35 AM
2

Well those sound like very sad and broken men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:35 AM
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Basically seems like it, yea
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:34 AM
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Conversation, with that kind of a person? Does this only apply to dumb women who can’t think for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:33 AM
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Exactly what I was thinking, why in the world would you want someone like that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:32 AM
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So it teaches people to act selfish and that you’re better than other people? Wow, that’s depressing and stupid af
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:32 AM
1

Which you base off of…?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:30 AM
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So the exact same as men for women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:30 AM
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How are social safety nets for single mothers a pro for women and a con for men in general? That makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:28 AM
2

Seriously? That’s so sad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:24 AM
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Yea, I’d say it’s a lot about how you define ‘being single’ in these kinds of studies, which probably vary a lot between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:46 AM
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Maybe because we now focus on quality and not simply quantity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:14 AM
3

Only three months?? And that’s supposed to be a lot or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:13 AM
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Sure, cause that’s gotta be a thing because men are miserable /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:12 AM
2

Great point 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:11 AM
2

But why though? Are the birth rates at minus or simply plus minus zero?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:10 AM
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Oh yeah, what exactly do women need men for nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:11 PM
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I guess you exclusively believe in evolutionary psychology and in every area?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:49 PM
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The same could be said about a lot of things men have access to which women don’t. It depends on if you include privileges that only the ones who lack it, want. The women who want casual sex but can’t get it are in all likelihood still a minority and it doesn’t matter in a larger perspective. They’re too few to be statistically significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:47 PM
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Exactly, you need to be social, outgoing, extroverted whatever you wanna call it. But simply being female doesn’t mean it’s easy for you to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:48 AM
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Okay I hear what you say, it was the only example I could think of though that might affect the different ways people might define casual sex. I was wondering because I read this study where a lot of the people who have had casual sex also only did it once during college and never again. So I was simply thinking about how you’d define ‘interest’, because being drunk and sleeping with someone could explain why you’d do it and still not be interested in general. Also, where I’m from, it’s not abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:44 AM
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This would only describe a very specific type of woman though, basically the ones who’s on social media all of the time. Also, 6 feet is only a thing in North America apparently, it’s not even considered to be that tall here en Scandinavia for example. That’s like average
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:36 AM
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Why would that stop them though? If they simply change their approach or something, the problem is solved. It seems like a very simple way of thinking tbh. I’m saying this being a virgin myself, which isn’t particularly a choice of mine, but rather something I’m not willing to put enough energy and resources into to change. Sure, some men would probably sleep with any woman. That’s not the same thing as women having easy access to sex though. How isn’t that what define an incel? That’d only hold…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:33 AM
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Well I agree with you in a way, because I’m shocked again and again whenever I hear how common it is for women to be interested in casual sex. And this all depends on how you’d define what it means ‘being interested in casual sex’. Does the fact that someone have had casual sex once count as them being interested, even if this only time happened when she was drunk and was actually unable to consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:25 AM
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But that’s still an easy fix, because a lot of things can be done to make yourself more physically attractive, mainly muscles. Pretty much any man would be viewed as attractive if he was in better shape. That’s what women do already, make themselves look and appear better 🤷‍♀️ it’s a social construct
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:20 AM
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So you’re saying that every woman are able to attract a man who’d want to sleep with her simply because she’s not hideous? How would she attract men then? Simply walk outside and wait for someone to pick her up?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:51 PM
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But you can tell loads of things about people based on what and how they write though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:42 PM
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I’m curious, you have any examples of these ridiculous standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:41 PM
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But what does it actually mean to “not being able to get sex even if you want to”, like what’s stopping them? The reason why there’s basically no female incels is probably because women typically don’t blame everyone else for there problems. Women tend to become depressed, anorexic, have major depressive disorder etc. Men are more likely to instead turn this into hatred and aggressive behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:40 PM
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How is it the fault of nature that a lot of men won’t go to the gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:36 PM
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Yea it’s wrong because the vast majority of women aren’t interested in casual sex anyway, meaning it doesn’t matter how many men want to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:34 PM
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Maybe men need/want women more than women need/want men. Or maybe women will rather stay alone than be with a man that beat the crap out of them. Women have a lot more to lose, of course they’ll be pickier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:32 PM
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I’ve come across quite a lot of men who seem to get pissed off when they don’t feel needed by women. I usually tell them that it’s more of a compliment that women want them rather than need them, but they don’t agree. This attitude is kinda odd, don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:23 PM
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Oh, I see. Kinda like how people tend to see men as being smarter, only it isn’t as much of a subjective judgement I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:27 AM
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And biology only play a small part in most of us. Those who capitulate and instead blame biology are probably better off doing so it seems. 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:13 PM
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How do you mean, men are considered less attractive? Like to who and compared to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:46 AM
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What roles do you mean women played then, and in what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:35 AM
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Thanks for the history lesson, that was very interesting reading! Especially for someone way outside of the US because it’s for sure very different here (Sweden) 😅 kinda ironic since I know it was back then the idea of “Swedish women will sleep with anything that moves” was spread. There’s rumours going around that apparently still immigrants who come here believing this to be true and simply grab the first woman they come across. Creepy really as a woman living in Sweden and looking Swedish 😅 A…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:22 AM
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Japp det spelar definitivt roll! Det märks att vi har det ganska bra här hemma jämfört med många på andra sidan sjön. Varje gång det rapporteras om hur Sverige går åt helvete brukar jag läsa om USA och inser då att vi har det ganska bra här trots allt, med all vår välfärd. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:12 AM
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Yes this is certainly true, at least if you look at a very small group of shallow women. And it seems to be extroverted women mostly, I’ve noticed 🤔 Seriously, this is just as stupid as saying “ask any man what his dream woman is. It would be someone with enormous boobs”. Not true either and it doesn’t make it more true even if it would apply to all women you’ve ever dated or talked to or follow on TikTok. It’s not a representative population, among other things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 05:39 PM
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I agree, doing this, especially to men, is so so bad. To me it’s basically psychological violence. It makes me so sad when I see or hear of this ☹️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 09:19 AM
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That’s different since you pay for the autograph itself as well as the meaning attached to it. If you pay for someone to give you a sense of companionship you paid for a sensation, an illusion. It will work no matter what as long as the one who bought the service believes in it. Which of course could be argued to also apply to an autograph 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 12:49 AM
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Okay, so the point that’s being made/the claim is that men pay more money in taxes. That’s not the same as contributing more resources though, or contributing more in any way. If it’s men vs women then it’s also relevant who costs more, since it’s one big economy. And I suppose we’re taking about the US or maybe UK here so I’ll try to apply my thoughts on those circumstances. It works very different there compared to my home country. Men work more Men work longer hours Men spend less money compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:50 AM
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Lol men “already know what’s up”? Well if this is what men think they know it’s no wonder so many of them stay single. I mean if you’re only chasing after the kind of women who act like this you can’t really blame anyone but yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:27 AM
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This is only based on evolutionary biology theory and internet dating though, which is both a very specific theory and a very specific context. It doesn’t represent all women, and since no explanations were provided, since it’s a quantitative study, it doesn’t really prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:22 AM
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Maybe that’s true if you only look at a very small and specific population of women. Far from all women though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:13 AM
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Why would having a baby have such huge effect though? 🫤
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:12 AM
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That doesn’t really apply to the majority of women though, not in general. It might be the case in a country like the US but that’s probably because money equals safety. In other countries, those that actually take care of the citizens, money probably won’t be as important and desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:10 AM
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Why would you want the one acting like a dick though? That just sounds stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:08 AM
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This makes me think of a few different points: - Why is it relevant to begin with? - If this is true, why is this the case? - Don’t men also spend more of the tax money? - Even if it’s true in some places, it only means men pay more money, no other currency.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:36 PM
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How is it women’s fault if men can’t adapt though?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:14 PM
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Sure, if you believe all we do is because biological psychology. In that case you also don’t believe in human agency, which is your choice. However, it doesn’t make it more true than any other theory of human behaviour, like Social Action Theory, Behavioural Psychology, Social Cognitive Theory, The Transtheoretical Model/Stages of Change, the Health Belief Model, or the Theory of Planned Behavior to name a few. And the fact that you claim men have an easier time ignoring their biology is quite o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 02:55 PM
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Sure, if you’d only have sex to procreate. Is that what you’re saying, that men want sex so much because they want to have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:33 AM
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How? If they wanted the illusion of someone caring about them and they were provided with it, how is it manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 09:40 AM
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Weirdly enough they’d still be furious if someone would even insinuate that they’re too emotional 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:27 PM
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I agree, it’s only reasonable to show some basic respect to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:23 PM
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You’re kidding, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:21 PM
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Most societies expect people to provide for themselves, what’s your point? And how is providing security even the least comparable to sex? That’s stupid on so many levels
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:20 PM
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What do you mean it’s an issue? If the woman felt like the man was being creepy then he was. Maybe not on purpose, but this is subjective. There’s no obvious right or wrong. It’s everyone’s responsibility to be as friendly and non threatening as possible, men and women. That’s part of living in a society. You don’t have to agree but you have to at least accept it. Of course there’s no need to gossip about something like this to one’s friends, and certainly not to name the person in question. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:16 PM
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But don’t now what the woman’s experience was, it might’ve been creepy to her. I get what you’re saying, and I agree that it’s exaggerated a lot. I do still believe it’s important to remember that what might look like a normal and non-frightening interaction from an outside perspective, doesn’t necessarily mean it wasn’t scary or anything for the person who experienced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 12:26 AM
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It’s usually economically beneficial long term, not short term
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 02:08 AM
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Than lucky for all of us that only a teeny tiny minority of people do this kind of crap
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 02:07 AM
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Could I maybe borrow some of your male friends? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 02:04 AM
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So you’re saying European women are more feminine because of how old our cultures are? Yea I can actually see that, how interesting. Which feminine and masculine traits would you say have been encouraged respectively repressed in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 02:01 AM
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It doesn’t necessarily work that way either, you won’t be a citizen or anything if you marry a Swedish man for instance. We have the opposite definition of how to become a citizen at birth, compared to the US
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 01:54 AM
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I thought survival of the fittest referred to circumstances that existed before that sort of technology was developed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 01:49 AM
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Oh yes, those things are way more important than money 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 01:46 AM
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I’m gonna save this comment for later when I wonder about this exact topic, because this was one hell of an explanation! 🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 01:36 AM
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I didn’t say anything about it being the result of a lifetime of hard work they hated though, all I said was it was due to losing money. Of course it’s tragic under the circumstances you describe, but that’s not what the article said. “we fail to appreciate the catastrophic financial impact of divorce on men, and the anger and resentment engendered by losses of both property and status in the wake of a divorce settlement.” See? Property and status, not “working hard and still losing one’s family…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:52 PM
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Is it the same as the cheerleader effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:57 AM
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I think we should stop calling them ‘models’ for a starter and call them what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:36 AM
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Exactly, normal women are probably the ones that have the least respect of those kinds of women, myself included 🤢 They do about as much damage to men’s view of women tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:34 AM
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A multitude of only fans girls charge for these men to recieve a message from them. For a false sense of companionship kinda like texting a gf. And MANY if not all later confess to paying someone else (usually a man) to message them instead. So you don't even get what you pay for in that sense. How is this false though? If they pay for a sense of companionship, why does it matter who sends it irl? They’re paying for a fantasy, an idea of someone caring, and they get exactly that. It’s rather the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:30 AM
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Well it depends on what you’re referring to. Do you mean short and/or long term risks? Which age range? Which pre-existing conditions are included? Which country or countries? and son on
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:29 PM
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Then I don’t see why so many people portray as if it’s the norm that the mom get sole custody, even though the dad wanted it too. Kinda creating a problem there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:35 AM
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Still, you’re claiming there’s barely any risks…? What’s that opinion based on then?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:12 AM
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So traditional means living in the past, and being a housewife or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:10 AM
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What is the differences between a modern and traditional relationship then from a woman’s perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 12:52 AM
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Yea, and apparently they kill themselves because they’re angry because they lost money as a result of the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:40 AM
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What kind of risks are you referring to then? Death? Lifelong injuries?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:35 AM
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I suppose this is based on the US? Because a lot of those things are very country specific. The fact that it seems to be the norm for one person to get custody instead of it being shared custody is one of those things that seems weird to me at least, and it therefore include the fact that only men have to pay child support. What a weird system.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:27 AM
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Okay so you’re tiny, does it mean you’d never hit on a woman who are smaller than you? Because how else would it matter? Yea they might’ve left, but they could still have come across creepy. I though that was what we were discussing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:23 AM
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Maybe not to you, but put yourself in a tiny woman’s position and it might present itself differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:09 AM
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Sure it takes social skills to be social. So why not practice being social with male friends…? It’s the part of making women seem like aliens compared to men that makes all of this a problem. Sure, men talk differently to each other, but it wouldn’t hurt if you’d spend a bit more time thinking about the great amount of meanings words can have to different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:07 AM
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Exactly, unless men start doing their part things will probably not change
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:23 AM
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It’s not things I said, it’s what was said in the study. It’s the result of research. And tbh, if you’re idea of women is that they are “greedy and competitive” it doesn’t really matter what you think anyway. Because I guess you don’t think that way about men. I wouldn’t be surprised if men are the true victims in your mind, apparently the life of a man is so much worse than the life of a woman. Yea, right…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 12:54 AM
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Women typically only “demonise” men who are acting creepy or weird. Stop being creepy=problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 12:18 AM
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You’re allowed to guess all you want, it doesn’t make it true. Women are affected because they believe men want what they see in porn, and so do boys and men. Where do you think the big D obsession originated from? And I’m not saying women are victims here, it’s a complex issue. Both men and women are affected here. Of course media have an important part in this, but I’m saying they’re also influenced by porn. According to this research, a lot of people feel like pornography actually negatively …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 10:43 AM
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Don’t act like you know what happened back then because you couldn’t, and it’s therefore disrespectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:00 AM
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I’m sorry, but you really don’t get it, do you? Have you heard of the analogy of what’s the chicken and what’s the egg? Why do you think women shave down there, like where did the idea come from? Answer: porn, because that’s one of the few places where those parts are visible for everyone to see. Most women don’t wear as much make up as porn stars do you know, the problem here is rather that men have no idea about what is and what isn’t makeup. I bet a lot of men believe pornstars basically only…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:58 AM
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Communism have failed since it has basically never been done according to plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:39 AM
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No they didn’t do that successfully, they starved a few million people to death and killed a bunch more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:36 AM
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I’m sorry, I didn’t get your point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:22 AM
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And when was this? Back when marital rape was still legal you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 12:51 AM
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Lol why so aggressive? Nothing of what you just said make any sense. Like I said above; it was a way to explain the difference between theory and practice. That's it, nothing about my opinion. It's almost like you're actually talking to yourself and how you yourself feel like a failure. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:27 PM
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And this is supposed to prove something? I was a teenager myself during the Twilight years, and as far as I know it had nothing to do with him wanting to kill her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:23 PM
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I'm not American, this tells me absolutely nothing. I guess those are supposed to be good teams...? The person commenting above said that simply telling someone what to do won't make them any good unless they were good players to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:21 PM
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Sorry, but I have a hard time understanding what part it is that you don't understand here. I'm not referring to female anatomy, but rather ideas about body hair, makeup, behaviour, body shape and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:14 PM
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Well that could also mean women give men the benefit of doubt for quite some time. It's like a kind of build-up until it finally explode when you've finally had enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:09 PM
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Okay, so what's your point? It's still most likely safer for them to have sex as it comes with fewer risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:56 PM
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At least the ones you've met lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:16 PM
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I couldn’t agree more! 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:54 AM
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What’s so incredibly annoying about these things (things that tend to be thought of as applying to all or most) is that women who aren’t acting like this might still be thought of this way by a lot of men. I’ve realised, for instance, that I’ve probably unintentionally rejected men over the years because I didn’t show any obvious signs of interest. The thing is that when you struggle with your self-esteem or self-image (I don’t know exactly which word it is I’m looking for because they all sound…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:53 AM
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If you explain it to 100 people and only one of those people can’t understand it, what then? Simply because you don’t understand it doesn’t mean it’s not understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:33 AM
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15 in Sweden lol, we apparently wanted to be special 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:21 AM
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As a woman it feels like a lot of men’s understanding of how women’s bodies are “supposed to” look like come from porn though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:20 AM
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Are you a woman then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:17 AM
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Or it’s the fact that a lot of men don’t read between the lines and interpret a lot of things literally
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:13 AM
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Because it’s obviously that part of which teenage girls were obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:12 AM
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Or she’s saying read between the lines
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:12 AM
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This is pretty much why some men don’t get it; missing the context and interpreting parts literally
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:11 AM
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Sure, let’s look at things from a male perspective: “Women say they want nice men, which have to mean buying her dinner and not expect sex on the first date” Apparently “nice” can be interpreted in very different ways. Most women think of nice as being polite, kind, compassionate and caring, meaning treating people with respect and empathy. Acting one way because you think it will make women like you is the opposite of being nice. Even if a group of men would say they’ve noticed women “like a ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:08 AM
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Or they complain that they can’t listen to women because they don’t actually want the kind of man they say they do. Maybe these men simply don’t understand what women are saying and put the blame on women instead of admitting to themselves that they don’t understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:58 AM
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What? Why would you want someone that constantly makes you feel bad though? That’s weird
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:55 AM
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Great point, this is how a lot of those characters are. I always think about Heath Ledger’s character in “10 Things I Hate About You”. I love that movie 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:53 AM
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The person simply explained the difference between theory and practice. Why so hostile?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:48 AM
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Lol I personally hate rom-coms because of the stupid dynamics between the main characters 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:45 AM
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Ironically this sounds like a very childish way to interpret things too. It’s not even about “feelings”, it’s about your gut feeling, intuition or learned knowledge, the kind that’s often difficult to explain in words. It’s really no difference to when you hear a song that sounds familiar but you can’t for the life of you remember which one it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:43 AM
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I see your point and how it might be confusing. To me though, as a woman, a lot of times I only see one possible way to interpret things, especially when I’m stressed and simply throw something out there that seems obvious to me. I communicate this way with my girlfriends and they tend to interpret things the same way I do, sometimes we even finish each other’s sentences. If you’ve said something to someone else who thinks the same way you do, it’s a lot more difficult to find alternative ways f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:38 AM
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Lol fair point, I probably would’ve interpreted it the same way tbh 😅 it was meant in good faith at least. I read too fast, of course it doesn’t say “all women”. I guess I translated it too fast in my head, because in my first language we have the same word for “little” and “some” for instance, and we tend to use the word that translates to “all” the same way. I apologise if I made it sound like criticism. It wasn’t my intention. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:16 AM
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Because at that point you’ve gotten to know each other a bit. It’s like different steps. The first step is to prove you can act like a normal human being, show manners and how to treat people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 01:18 AM
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⁠doesn't want a player, but when dating, only one who has a chance to succeed is a player A player is someone who only want casual relationships, right? Are you saying all married men are players then? Edit: Since I started using Reddit I’ve realised how different a lot of English, idk, phrases maybe? can be interpreted. It differs a lot from my first language which is structured differently. My point is that saying “all” in this context doesn’t necessarily mean everyone single one, but rather t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:56 AM
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Men and women might have as many issues, however they are often very different issues which means different actions are needed to solve the problem. Women tend to react in a more emotional way but are also better at handling this emotionality in a constructive way. Same goes for men and logical thinking. These problems are in our minds, and we use our minds (thinking and feeling) to solve them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:40 AM
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Well yea. Women’s brains are more affected by negative emotions and it takes less as well. Women also tend to notice subtle differences that men simply don’t react to. Of course women will be more overly emotional, but they also tend to handle negative emotions better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:34 AM
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Or men are unable to see the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:30 AM
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Those who are unable to self-soothe are the ones who get temper tantrums and generally act childish anytime they’re hit with a challenge in life. It’s about talking to yourself and reason why you reacted the way you did, why someone else acted or said something, consider different tactics or solutions to problems etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:30 AM
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I’m confused, which part did you think females like?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:27 AM
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Ability=social skills. Personality=be yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:18 AM
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Yes, at the very beginning because it’s all about checking to see if you seem to be a weirdo or a somewhat normal guy. It’s like small talk - basically useless content because it’s the ability of being social (and not suddenly do something crazy) that you’re actually showing off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:16 AM
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You just proved the point above though. This shows it’s not because your collection, but the way you tell it and when.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:13 AM
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At what point in the relationship did you tell or show them? How did you tell them? These things can make a very big difference. It might not have to do with the collection itself, but rather the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:11 AM
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This “ick-thing” is a way to decide who you like and dislike and it seems to work in a similar way for both men and women. I’ve noticed myself that men tend to conclude things way too fast, before they actually have enough evidence to do so. Their icks are based on words mostly. When a woman experience a behaviour pattern that she dislike for some reason, it makes warning signals go off in our heads. Women’s icks are based on behaviour, more or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:10 AM
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Why does it have to be someone’s “fault” though?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:02 AM
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What’s your definition of equality then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 02:45 AM
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Why would they’ve wanted it to be available for married couples only? Married women, if anyone, should reasonably not be in need of birth control?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 02:36 AM
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Actually you’re right, and that’s what the research says as well, that sex drive work differently in men and women. I’m personally tired of men blaming biology for their actions, because that’s rarely as a determinant factor as they make it up to be. People have a lot more agency and possibility to affect their life, and certainly their own behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:55 AM
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That’s fine, you apologising at the end actually make me respect your opinion even though I should probably feel offended 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:59 AM
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Philosophies, sciences, disciplines, theology, metaphysics... 5 000 years ago everything was called philosophy though, science wasn’t even a thing until a couple of 100 years ago. Which disciplines? Also, metaphysics is a branch of philosophy. What are you saying those “smart men” were trying to do in practice then? It all went to shit after the sexual revolution. In what way and to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:52 AM
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With women it’s probably more often her behaviour or personality traits that are perceived as unattractive. Women who don’t have any maternity instincts, have no contact or power over her emotions, bad hygiene, lots of body hair (in the “wrong” places that is) and being rude to mention a few. A lot of men would probably not find a woman who’s a lot taller or stronger than him attractive. Individual differences are pretty significant though. I’ve known of a lot of instances where men stop finding…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:45 PM
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Actually no, that’s not entirely true, men don’t generally have a higher sex drive than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:28 PM
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So you’re saying we are simply slaves of our own biology, and that there’s no such a thing as individual agency? We are all just puppets without any kind of power to affect our own lives or actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:21 PM
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They might be treated bad but so are a lot of people. It's not an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:32 PM
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Exactly, energy is a good word to describe it. Personally I believe it’s a lack of cognitive empathetic ability, which in practice means they cannot switch perspectives and leave themselves outside of the situation. The cause of this is a different question though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:21 PM
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Actually you just proved your problem here, by assuming that the other person assumed you were a virgin. It’s more likely these assumptions that’s the real problem
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:17 PM
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Society don’t care about incels because of the way they act, period. Same goes for the men who describe all women as easy, dumb, emotional unlike men who are rational etc. It’s this rhetoric that make society dislike you, not how many (or few) you’ve slept with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:14 PM
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This is exactly it! I’ve at least always felt embarrassed or ashamed to admit that I’m attracted or aroused by something. It makes me feel dirty. It’s really sad because it has resulted in a lot of trouble concerning my own thoughts about myself and how I’m perceived by others. I bet this is also one of the reasons why it’s hard to believe, as a woman, that men would find you attractive and how little it would actually take for you to get laid if you wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:05 AM
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I was thinking about other western countries though, those with developed welfare systems. How is it relevant to compare with countries where men and women don’t have the same legal status? It doesn’t make sense. And it’s relevant to compare to other western countries since things don’t seem as bad as people commonly describe it here. That’s why it seems to be the result of an extreme neoliberal ideology, as well as a lack of protection for all citizens .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:19 PM
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Oh I get it, you don’t have to explain why most people believe these are typically male traits. My point was that women who act like this doesn’t have to be masculine. Most of those traits become masculine or feminine based on how they’re portrayed. Both men and women can be brave for instance, but it doesn’t mean that the woman becomes more masculine. Same goes for physical strength, a physically strong woman isn’t automatically more masculine because of it since muscles look leaner on women an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:13 PM
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Yes, examples of those claims outside of the capitalist neoliberal Anglo-Saxon world. Because it seems to be specific to those countries. On the other hand, if you’re saying this only apply to those women, who live under those specific circumstances and therefore excludes all other women, then I guess it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:04 AM
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And you’re saying it’s like this everywhere, it’s not a problem specifically in a country which is obsessed with personal freedom and capitalism? Who are dependent on boards and stakeholders since basically every part of society is privately owned and operated?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:00 AM
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What work would the hormone be doing, exactly? Gaining muscles for instance. That's not what I was implying. I was implying the behavior she described could get her seriously hurt as a man. Why get drunk around a bunch of random, sketchy people? You're asking to get robbed or beat up. But all she said was that she could go out and get drunk and not have worry about being raped, meaning she could be drunk in public and wouldn’t have to worry about being raped. That’s it. Men don't take bums serio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 09:58 AM
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Oh really? And where is this happy celebratory place? I’d love to visit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 09:39 AM
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Typical masculine traits are hardly the same as a man though. And some of these are feminine traits in certain circumstances. Females are usually very protective of their children for instance. If you’re loyal to your friends or partner that could lead to being protective as well, maybe not in a physical way though, but socially. The ability to think logically is more often than not related to a combo of intelligence and mental strength, and so is being cool in stressful situations which I’d say…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 09:35 AM
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I agree, it doesn’t seem like the best strategy long term. There’s also a fine line between men who are socially clumsy and men who are autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:46 PM
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Interesting perspective! I agree with you that it’s most definitely fake, although I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s shallow. But who cares? We obviously agree on this matter, the choice of words is less important. So according to this definition someone with character is a person you can rely on since they’re known to be honest, assured, authentic and true to his word? I find it interesting that you believe more men than women are like this, because that’s in no way my experience. I’ve met very f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:45 AM
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Obviously, I was inspired by yours
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:35 AM
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Yea, and you’re claiming women’s lives aren’t. That’s the part you’re obviously unaware of. I’m not saying most men live an easy life, I’m saying that it’s tough for women as well and that we’re hardly appreciated either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:34 AM
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Firstly, why is a preference of height considered shallow? Is it based on the assumption that it only has to do with the way it looks? Secondly, what does it mean to have ‘character’? I think of it as an outdated word that have been used historically to explain the lack of moral character in criminals and alcoholics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:30 AM
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Late stage capitalism? I’ve never heard that before, what is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:24 AM
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I completely agree with you! If someone gives off creep signals he’s a creep, no matter looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:23 AM
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Aren’t most women though? Or most people in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:21 AM
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How interesting, I try to do the exact opposite and my experience is also the other way around! Men always seem to stop smiling in situations where we happen to make eye contact and I’ve been trying to figure out why this is. I wish more people smiled to one another, it’s really nice 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:15 AM
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Which only proves how unaware you truly are. I bet it’s a nice clueless life you’re living
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:11 AM
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With testosterone levels for men being where they are these days due to endocrine disruptors, you'd have to be a top percentile man to have testosterone doing any work for you. Even if that was the case you’d still have more testosterone than a woman, which means the effect would be noticeable. A tiny bit? You better hope you were born with the right genes anyway. Most likely, you'd be a 5'9"-5'11" hardgainer with an average frame. Again, compared to a woman yes it’d be a tiny bit of exercise. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:44 PM
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Well this comment pretty much sums it all up! 🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:34 PM
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Sounds like a way to excuse your own selfishness
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:32 PM
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If you were a man that’d be true, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:32 PM
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A very well put point, my friend. Ten out of ten! 🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:30 PM
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Probably why it’s wrong on basically every point then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:29 PM
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Who are they and why though?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:28 PM
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Do you have any examples outside of the Anglo-Saxon world?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:28 PM
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Lol men are the most shallow, that’s basically why they think women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:25 PM
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Which you based of off what…? Your gut feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:22 PM
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Most women aren’t likely to be murdered at all though. And one risk doesn’t exclude other risks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:16 PM
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Sure, if you’re a sex worker those stats is probably right
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:14 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:12 PM
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Definitely the most reasonable suggestion yet 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:12 PM
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“Looking at the numbers”, which numbers exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:11 PM
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There’s definitely a demand, most men as well as most women aren’t willing to sacrifice anything to do it though. And why is it the women who lack dignity and not the men who provide a demand? If they weren’t creeps it wouldn’t be a thing even.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:10 PM
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That’s a really good point, if they wanted to they could easily do it if they wanted to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:07 PM
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It’s probably good that you’re not a woman then if this is your idea of what life is like for women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:06 PM
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I’ve been working with social assistance in Sweden for several years and I can guarantee you that there’s a lot of poor men who marry Thai women, and who end up beating them. I saw it over and over again and it really was those stereotypical power thirsty losers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:54 AM
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What part of it would be illegal though?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:50 AM
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Well maybe I am, but that’s probably because I’m from a country where conscription is already gender neutral and at the same time we’ve had peace for more than 150 years. It’s really not relevant
/r/MensRights30/01/23 02:33 AM
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The responsibility of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 04:02 PM
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What’s your definition of a “good man” then, if the more interesting alternative are gang bangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 03:56 PM
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This is an important difference really, that you shouldn’t assume or expect the worse but still be aware of what could happen and to pay attention of signs if they were to appear
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 03:32 PM
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I get your point and I agree it’s not beneficial to think of all men as predators by principle. To give an example of why this might, unfortunately, be necessary sometimes. I lost my dad at a young age and therefore never had the opportunity of learning these things from him. Later in life, when I started dating at about 21 y o, I was taken advantage of by my first date. I’ve since then realised that it was, at least in part, because I didn’t know what to do/not do, how it’d be interpreted and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 03:29 PM
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Really? What an interesting idea, could you elaborate? How are conflicts of leadership the cause of women though? Isn’t it because those without power want more? In that case it could as easily be because men were angry that a woman was in power.
/r/MensRights29/01/23 02:53 PM
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That’s an awesome suggestion, I absolutely agree!
/r/MensRights29/01/23 02:49 PM
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Lol typical misogynist 😂 you just proved my entire point!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 11:30 AM
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Which is…? And at what age are you saying this responsibility come to play? How would you know that as a female? Where, when and by who would you learn all of these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 11:29 AM
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Lol where did I state that I wanted to be exempted of conscription? I’m talking about the fact that in case of war everyone have responsibilities and that dying isn’t always the worst thing that could happen to you. That’s it.
/r/MensRights29/01/23 11:26 AM
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Well yea, but I’ve never heard of a country that put people in prison if the kids won’t go to school. Yes of course, quite a few people would still be unable to fulfil the military service, me included because of asthma. I totally agree! I really wish more people would help taking care of the country and each other.
/r/MensRights29/01/23 02:05 AM
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Sure, but then we’ll get the leaderships roles too. Oh wait, in that case there wouldn’t even be any wars to fight. How convenient
/r/MensRights29/01/23 02:01 AM
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What do you mean? Do you mean proof that I read it? I never claimed it was science
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:56 AM
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We are avoiding you. Then you started to babble about women being misandrist. You should be happy that women try to avoid you then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:39 AM
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What do you mean teenage girls know what they’re doing? The only way any of us would know how we affect others is if they tell us. And even if teenage girls were aware of how they affect men, how is that a reason for men to act like assholes? Talk about victim blaming
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:36 AM
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Basically no woman want to be liked by men like you. We’d all be so much better off without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:23 AM
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Really, biased sources? You do know that men wrote basically all of history, right? That’s why it’s portrayed the way it is, like men did everything and women nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:22 AM
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Why is it typical woman? Why not typically something else? You see, this is misogynistic because you decided that one woman’s actions represent every woman. When this happens again and again it’ll eventually end up being your definition of men basically. And that’s the difference. Women spread this kind of hate as a result of men’s actions. If you stop being misogynistic, women will probably stop being, what you think of as being misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:15 AM
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Speaking of this, yesterday I read about a study of what people think count as sexual assault and rape respectively. It was pretty bad, because it turned out that the vast majority of men didn’t know what sexual assault really is, and that was after they’d already been convicted. How can this be so hard to understand? Your idea of a crime is doesn’t make it real. So stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:08 AM
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Sure, if by ‘crystal ball’ actually mean ‘body language’ then yes, this is pretty much all we expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:11 PM
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Why would the odds be in your favour now again? And if they have no success after that many tries they’re probably doing something wrong or approaching the wrong people. Why would woman no 134 respond differently than the 133 before her did?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:07 PM
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Lol this makes so much sense
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:03 PM
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Finally someone who’s making sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:02 PM
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Especially those who have a lot of followers on social media XD
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:01 PM
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You do know that it’s usually men that have a frail ego, not women? That’s also why a lot of women don’t bother, because the odds of a man complaining that you’re not being truthful or that you’re only being a tease, is too big. If this sounds familiar it’s probably because men seem to think similarly about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:01 PM
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I think being a feminist points out why you people are inherently not built for the positions of power you seek. “You people”? Are you referring to women or do you assume that I identify with your idea of what feminism is? Feminists see the world as something that’s happening to them and not around them. You’re fighting for fairness when the men at top don’t care about fairness. They use whatever means to beat their opponents. Now I’m not actually saying it’s unfair but ambitious men still have …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:54 PM
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Every (adult) have responsibilities. Think of how it was during WWII for instance, when all the men were going to war and the women were forced to work in the factories as well as take care of the children. Sure, they’d “only” be at risk of death through bombings or death camps and such things. But you could still say it’s about both sexes having equal responsibilities. It’s not like it’s always necessarily the worst thing to die either. Basically only those of you who haven’t lost someone close…
/r/MensRights27/01/23 08:15 AM
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Why is it so hard to get the difference between radical feminism and classic feminism? If I tell people I’m a liberal but instead promote anti-capitalist ideas, it doesn’t make me a liberal. It’s the same in this case. It’s not about 50-50 by principle, it has to do with influence, which mostly lies with men. Only a man would fail to recognise this. The irony is that it seems to be the most insecure men too, the confident ones accept that we don’t have equal opportunities in society and roll wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 08:07 AM
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Yes that’s of course true. Most people still seem to have a problem of understanding highly intelligent people. I’ve realised that it most of the time have to do with the fact that people are basically unaware of what intelligence actually means and end up having really skewed expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 07:59 AM
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Lol well yea, physically weaker and thought this was obvious to most people?
/r/MensRights27/01/23 07:56 AM
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Well yea, but women in most countries do have the opportunity…?
/r/MensRights27/01/23 07:54 AM
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Equality according to Oxford Dictionary: the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities: an organization aiming to promote racial equality. Nothing about responsibilities is mentioned.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 03:05 AM
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This mostly apply to people with uneven intelligence though, those who have a high average but not equal abilities. That’s why those people seem like geniuses in some areas and basically stupid in others. People with even scoring tend to have a high EQ and be quite friendly as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:33 AM
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Lol that’s the people who are just above average and therefore still lack the ability to estimate their own abilities and to compare to others’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:29 AM
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And we definitely don’t understand him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:27 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:24 AM
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Can I borrow this? Because it describes me perfectly tbh 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:24 AM
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I’m not sure people who are forced to do military service think of it this way. And what kind of crazy laws do you have? Fined and jailed for not forcing your kids to go to school?? I think this is very dependent on the country, because we get healthcare, medicines, education and lots of other benefits by paying our taxes. Those are direct rewards. Military service doesn’t do any of this.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 02:15 AM
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What a good way of putting it! I wish more people would think of it this way. 😊
/r/MensRights27/01/23 01:32 AM
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You don’t go to prison for skipping school though and usually you get things in return after paying taxes. Those are bad comparisons
/r/MensRights27/01/23 12:06 AM
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No it’s not. Equality is about having the same rights, status and opportunity. It has to do with values. Do we even want female soldiers, considering that the vast majority of all women are weaker than men? Or is it simply about women having it as bad as men do?
/r/MensRights27/01/23 12:02 AM
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And we know the Finns are badasses when it comes to war with the Russians! 😎🇫🇮
/r/MensRights26/01/23 11:57 PM
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Well that’s about time! They’re the only Scandinavian country left who doesn’t already have it yet
/r/MensRights26/01/23 11:55 PM
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I've seen such a paper once. I didn't put much credit into it. I can't recall exactly the details, but I was not impressed with either the procedure or the sponsor. In any case, I think it's irrelevant because most western countries have laws against that, laws which I agree with, personally, of course. Moreover, labor agreements do not make differences between men and women any more for the same jobs description anywhere in the West. I’m pretty sure killing another person is against the law too…
/r/MensRights25/01/23 08:11 PM
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I’m sure there is, but why would accountability be a masculine trait? It’s something you should do as an adult, no matter gender
/r/MensRights25/01/23 01:04 AM
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Sure, if you take the mean of an entire country it’ll be skewed. There’s a lot of studies where men and women with the exact same experience, work hours, education etc are compared and it still shows that women are paid less. This is the adjusted pay gap, meaning it takes a lot of factors into account. What do you think of this? We will probably not be able to make more women interested in physics or engineering. But who said that was the problem, that too few women show an interest? In that cas…
/r/MensRights25/01/23 12:58 AM
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Oh no, what I meant was that feminism is supposed to represent equality because it’s what the ideology is about and I find it hard to understand how today’s feminist movement are supposedly fighting for equality. I don’t get how someone who says they hate men can also claim that they fight for equality, how it adds up to themselves. Ah, the wage gap. I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t have enough knowledge about what it’s been based on to begin with and therefore don’t know how it’s suppos…
/r/MensRights25/01/23 12:39 AM
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Lol those kinds of names says a lot more about the people using them than the ones it refers to. 😅
/r/MensRights25/01/23 12:29 AM
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I believe I understand your point. I experienced this a lot in school. I was always anxious whenever I was going to do a presentation and a lot of the teachers said they’d make an exception. I was happy there and then but later annoyed because I wished they had taught me how to do it instead. It would’ve benefitted me a lot more in the long run.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 12:28 AM
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Great points sparkly blueberry (love your name btw)!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:28 AM
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And you think this is a privilege even though the consequences are as serious as having to go through an abortion, carry a baby full term or become a single parent? How is this a privilege simply because the man have to do his part?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:27 AM
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Oh, I almost forgot! Thanks for the reminder 😂 if this make me a pick me girl I’ll gladly be one any day of the week
/r/MensRights22/01/23 11:08 PM
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That doesn’t seem like a particularly effective way of finding a man to date 🤔😅 in what ways were they sexist, do you have any examples?
/r/MensRights22/01/23 11:05 PM
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I’m confused, do you disagree with something I said? It’s not my first time here, what have you that expression?
/r/MensRights22/01/23 11:00 PM
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Isn’t he like 5’7”? That’s the average height for women where I’m from. We’re pretty tall though 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 01:10 AM
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I agree, women are painted as victims to make others sympathise with them. If you can’t do the same work, you have to make everyone else lower the standards. A more fruitful strategy would be for women to instead use their unique abilities and for society at large to appreciate it for what it is. People should be paid for the work they do and according to what they produce or provide. But as long as we don’t acknowledge the need of all (necessary) professions, including those dominated by women …
/r/MensRights22/01/23 01:08 AM
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How do you mean?
/r/MensRights22/01/23 12:57 AM
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This is a very valuable point, well said!
/r/MensRights22/01/23 12:55 AM
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What’s a libtard?
/r/MensRights22/01/23 12:51 AM
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Wow, this explains why I despise wokeism more than anti-feminists even though I’m a woman. This is confusing to me, since I still think of feminism as a movement that fight for everyone’s equality and well being, because it’s how it should be. But you simply can’t agree with people who make up their own rules and change them whenever it suits themselves, which is sadly what feminism seems like nowadays 😔
/r/MensRights22/01/23 12:51 AM
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How is this a masculine trait? Does it mean that the solution is more masculine women? I get this sounds stupid, but I simply can’t understand how this makes sense. It’s almost like it was invented by feminists as an excuse to avoid accountability 🤔
/r/MensRights22/01/23 12:44 AM
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Does “beyond kissing” mean more intimate, more explicit, more enjoyable, which is it? My point is that this isn’t obvious and unless you explain very specifically when you ask for an answer to the question of the amount of sexual partners, or why it matters at all, you’ll likely get a lot of inaccurate answers. And probably a few annoyed made up answers. It would be interesting to find out how someone would react when you tell them it’s because there’s apparently some sort of statistical correla…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:28 PM
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The entire thread is about a person from Europe. That’s why the US is irrelevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:20 PM
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Not really, it depends on what kind of privilege we’re discussing. It makes a lot more sense to add more factors, because that’s what it’s like in reality. The fact that not all women do good in school and not all boys do bad has probably more to do with certain personality traits rather than gender. Kids that are calm and quiet, easily taught, patient, friendly and respectful are more likely to be liked by teachers. These behaviours are probably more common in girls than boys, since that’s the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 01:05 PM
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• ⁠education system biased in women's favor (probably the most important part) it benefits women and hurts men in two ways, one is that it rewards feminine behaviors and discourages masculine behaviors at an early age which can really fuck up a young boys development, and teachers generally grade male students harsher then female students, so it is these ways that young girls thrive, while young boys are chipped away and beaten down at early stages of development But all it means is that kids wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:41 PM
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We can agree to disagree then. But let’s say most men have a harder life, why does it matter? What would change if we agree on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 05:55 PM
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That’s pretty interesting, because I remember a recent study which concluded that people with ADHD, no matter bio sex, are much more likely to get every single one of the most common illnesses, including heart problems, type 2 diabetes, anxiety, depression and so on. People with ADHD are also more likely to be the victim of violence, commit a crime, do drugs, unable to finish school etc. My point is that being a man or woman isn’t always the most determinant factor in someone’s life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:08 AM
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On a societal basis, women are raised to be emotionally expressive https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141112084500.htm Compared to most men, definitely. However, it doesn’t really apply to all women. You aren’t allowed to express any feelings or express them in any way. You’re still expected to be quiet most of the time. There’s one emotion that men are “allowed” to express, and that’s anger. On the other hand, women are not. Only men have to sign up for the draft, when the titanic si…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:01 AM
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Well now I can tell you’ve never experienced this because it’s not that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:54 AM
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What a good point! thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:57 PM
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Finally someone who substantiated this claim! I totally agree if this is the case, it’s horrible
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:35 PM
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The study I gave on baseline costs of living was conducted in Sweden. Yea and everyone in Sweden knows Konsumentverkets calculations don’t add up. This link: https://www.klikk.no/vitenskap/kvinner-koster-staten-113000-kroner-mer-i-aret-enn-menn-4402331 shows women overconsuming enough state handouts to cost the state more than an extra $1million by the end of their lives in Norway. The only Scandinavian country thus far left out of scope is Finland. Even if this was true, men account for the hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:20 PM
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Interesting. What’s the name of this theory or the person who came up with it? It seems to explain the entire virginity-is-sacred culture, female body mutilation and why women are seen as sluts if they have casual sex. I would certainly not say it’s a privilege though, rather the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:53 PM
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Sure, you might go on. But maybe change your claims to make them fit the context which the post is actually about in that case, to make it more relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:49 PM
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1 If you find this to be so important, how do you define sex and who counts as a past sexual partner? 2 Unless you’re a certified behaviour analyst or something, how would you be able to figure out how someone will behave in the future? How do you know what has to do with someone’s personality versus the environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:41 PM
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Wait a minute, are you saying that paternity tests aren’t already included after every birth?? That’s one of the stupidest things I’ve heard! Talk about creating unnecessary problems! 🤦‍♀️ that country really is screwed up in so many ways, especially when it comes to taking care of its citizens. A paternity test is such an easy thing to do, I just assumed it was always done like here. Oh well, I guess that’s one of the consequences of not having free healthcare 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:52 PM
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Who said she doesn’t date by choice? … No one? Well you wrote that “if she chooses to date she’ll likely have a much easier time as a woman”. But if it doesn’t have to do with what she chooses to do it’s not relevant. How is it a privilege to not be assumed to be a criminal? Are you dumb? No I’m interested in your explanation instead of simply making an assumption on how you interpret it. Sure, but she also runs the risk of being assaulted since men are more like to commit violent crimes. She is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:46 PM
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But I didn’t ask for privileges that apply to most western women, hence why it’s relevant to be specific. I’m curious though since most of these examples have been mentioned over and over again, in what way is it a privilege to a woman that the average life expectancy is higher for women in most western countries? Or the fact that she might get a shorter sentence if she’d commit a crime, which btw is very unlikely in itself? How is it a privilege that a woman is less likely to be the victim of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:36 PM
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First of all, what in the world is SMP? Secondly, I never said anything about comparing men and women. It’s not relevant and doesn’t benefit anyone since it’s only in theory anyway. You don’t have access to all the necessary information if you wanted to do that kind of analysis and therefore the results wouldn’t be representative anyway. Thirdly, you couldn’t possibly know that it would be easier for Mary anyway, and especially since you don’t explain what you base this assumption on. Fourthly, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:14 PM
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And in what way would this be a benefit to these apparently 90 percent of women? Is it a privilege compared to men’s lack of choice in becoming a parent? Because I’m pretty sure there’s such a thing as adoption and sperm donation in most western countries
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:51 PM
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The example concerns Europe, Scandinavia to be more specific. The US have major issues in tons of fields, including the death penalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:49 PM
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What is this affirmative action? I’ve seen lots of posts about but don’t really understand what it means.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 12:47 PM
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Interesting, do you know of any of those studies? I’d like to read more about it myself! If it’s not true then that’s awesome and something no one need to waste any time worrying about. 😄
/r/MensRights19/01/23 12:46 PM
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Which is…?
/r/MensRights19/01/23 12:45 PM
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Wow, thank you so much for the advice! 😄🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:44 PM
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Well this is not necessarily a fair comparison since Asperger’s syndrome is incredibly diverse. Two people with this diagnosis can act in very different ways and be good or bad at completely different things. The average man have worse social skills than the average woman, it’s the same with those who have Asperger’s syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:53 AM
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Women almost always get child custody thus can benefit from child support Idk what country this is based on, but where I live the child support barely covers the costs of taking care of a child. In other words, it wouldn’t be economically beneficial at least. As far as custody goes, did you look up reasons behind any of those cases? If the mother happen to be the better parent in all of the cases where she gets custody, then it’s not a privilege. Most companies have a quota to hire women, so the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:41 AM
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education system biased in women's favor (probably the most important part) Does it benefit all women though or only those who act a certain way? Does the opposite apply to all men? more public funding for women's issues such as women's healthcare Is it really a privilege if the need is also greater? there is a greater emphasis on helping women who are struggling whether from homelessness, depression etc while men who are struggling get far less support In what way? Doesn’t it depend on why this…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:17 AM
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So you’re saying not all men benefit from the fact that the world was created by men and for men? I have a hard time believing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:09 AM
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Yes of course, if the discussion concerns a phenomenon on a structural level. This post is on an individual level though. The point I’m trying to make is how challenging it might be for a single person to interact with people who act like social phenomenons exist on a personal level as well. Also, you can’t put aside emotions, feelings or any other such things and it wouldn’t benefit us anyway. What you can do, however, is to acknowledge your own opinions and biases in an attempt to put a more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:08 AM
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Uhm, lets’s see… ⁠Being treated as desirable and inherently valuable just because you are a woman: as a guy, nobody is going out of their way to be extra nice to me, make sure i’m ok or even give me a compliment ⁠3000% easier to get casual sex, relationships and attention in general, which in and of itself is instant validation. You don’t even have to do anything except showing up and looking good. This might seem like a small thing, but I would argue that sex and relationships make up for a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:51 PM
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That’s very true and such an important point! However, my point was that not all girls are treated the same and therefore don’t have the same privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:33 PM
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First of all, I’d say reality isn’t the same as statistics since it only paints a very flawed picture. Secondly, you clearly don’t understand the point of the right to have an abortion. It’s more about knowing that it’s an option than actually using it. To take an example, when Roe v Wade was lifted I felt incredibly scared by the thought of being raped and then forced to have the child. If it happened to me now I realised I’d most likely kill myself, that’s how panicked the thought of it made m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:05 AM
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Oh yea, based on what exactly? I was basically only telling you what it’s like here, that we don’t have such a thing as fast track promotion for women and i questioned whether your stats about victimisation of violent crime were true. What part do you mean has to do with my education?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:58 AM
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You didn’t answer my question though: what exactly is it that these hypothetical privileges apply to? Does it apply to both ciswomen and trans women for instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:54 AM
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Sure, IG is representative of all women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:51 AM
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If this is the case, it’s just such a stupid situation. How can you be so sure that women have the most privileges when the thing about privilege is that it’s invisible to those that have it, meaning these whining men can’t see their own privileges either!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:46 AM
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“The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight and twenty; woman when she is eighteen; but hers is a reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling things to the most important. Arthur Schopenha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:43 AM
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If this is what it means to be a red pill… “Men who realise that men do not hold systemic power or privilege. They awaken to the “truth” that socially, economically, and sexually men are at the whims of women’s (and feminists’) power and desires.” …it seems to be about much more than simply dating and relationships where women have the most power. What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:25 AM
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What kind of crisis does western men face then and why doesn’t it apply to non-English speaking countries with skewed Tinder users?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:17 AM
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What you’re talking about in the first paragraph basically sound like inner and outer locus of control. The I’ve been taught self-esteem is all about how you perceive that others view you, while confidence is the way you think about yourself and your abilities. If you, for instance, have good confidence you believe in yourself and that you can accomplish things, whereas good self-esteem means you think that others believe in you and that things will be fine. I guess it’s a lot alike at the end o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:04 AM
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Thanks and I get what you’re saying. The thing is that this kind of life experience seems to be much more common than what was thought of before. More and more young women get diagnosed at the end of high school and are basically burnt out already by the age of 18. I’ve heard similar stories again and again through work (social worker). I’m well aware of the fact that I’m an exception in a lot of ways but at the same time believe there’s so many more like me out there. It’s always the loudest on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:53 AM
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Does it apply to all women though and without any exceptions? In what way do you mean men are seen as expendable and by who? Does it apply to all men? In what way do men get harsher sentences for the exact same crime? How would you even measure or conclude that two crimes are the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:45 AM
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Are these points based on a specific country? How are they relevant to the example?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:40 AM
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What’s your point, that it probably didn’t happen since you never experienced it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:40 AM
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Which you concluded based on what? Statistics? Gut feeling? How is this even a privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:38 AM
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Well it’s not the nicest people who think about this certain detail
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:37 AM
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Which country is these assumptions based on? And which facts? In what way are these privileges though, as in things that are beneficial and happen to women simply because they’re women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:36 AM
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Why is that relevant though? With ADHD you have more in common with those who also have it, no matter gender. Female teachers also expect more of you since they know you’re both women. People think they can relate to you simply because you’re the same sex. It’s stupid. I’m white, I related to Ariel, Mulan and Pocahontas the most because they were rebellious, not boring as the other Disney princesses. And why does it matter if I don’t get any help?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:33 PM
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My theory is that a lot of people feel like if they admit they have a certain privilege it automatically means that they’re better off than everyone else and therefore should be grateful for it, and maybe even take on more responsibilities. When you admit to one kind of privilege it’s like people assume that it at the same means that you can’t also have problems that counteract the privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:29 PM
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I agree with you completely! I don’t see how it’s beneficial to use statistics in this way and that’s actually part of the reason I wrote this to begin with. It’s important to be aware of what assumptions you have about other people and what those are based on. Here in Sweden, men and women have the same amount of parental leave. You can give away some of those days to the other parent but have to use at least a few of them yourself. This is the case for everyone, even those who are unemployed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:25 PM
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Does it apply to her simply because she’s a woman though? I’m asking since there’s been studies showing that people with ADHD for instance live on average between 8-13 years shorter lives than people who don’t have the diagnosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:49 PM
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Lol it doesn’t necessarily have to be about what other people say to you, but more about how they behave and what they doesn’t say to you. Most people don’t tell you what they think about you, certainly not if you’ve never met before. I never said the comparison was between men and women though, that’s your assumption. I asked for privileges women have in general. If the privilege depend on other factors then it’s not a privilege for women, it’s only a privilege for certain people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:46 PM
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Well yea, it’s not something you walk around thinking about all the time. That’s the basis of privilege, you take it for granted and are therefore unaware of the fact that it might be a privilege since it’s not the same for everyone. If you didn’t grow up with or talked much to men then these things will be perceived as normal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:24 PM
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I don’t think most people assume that about anyone. You might feel uncomfortable but probably not assume anything
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:21 PM
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That might be true but it has more to do with systemic racism than being a woman, don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:19 PM
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Exactly, you’re freakin obsessed with skin colour in the US. It’s even more stupid considering the fact that it never belonged to white Europeans anyway. It’s a pretty much man made problem in a sense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:18 PM
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Probably because there’s an actual biological difference between men and women that makes them act differently. The same can’t be said about the colour of your skin. Are the differences in sentencing really that big though, if you account for how few women commit crimes compared to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:15 PM
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Why would you consider this if you’ve never committed a crime though? It’s pretty easy to NOT commit a crime - you simply don’t do it. This is also true for the vast majority of people, especially in countries where education and healthcare is available to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:12 PM
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Well a lot of men value women based on their sexual history, especially in a historical sense. Why do you think women were, and sometimes still are, blamed for being the victim of rape? It doesn’t necessarily matter what actually happened if the entire village believe it. And your body will activate the stress system even if you’re not actually in danger, it’s based on the possibility of being in danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:05 PM
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How is this relevant though? So does the majority of men as well. The fact that women are being mistreated in some countries doesn’t make it a privilege to not be treated like crap. A privilege is something that other people under the same circumstances don’t have. Everyone living in the western world have privileges that people in the rest of the world lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:58 PM
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Well good for you then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:54 PM
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You don’t think a depressed woman with basically no self esteem or confidence aren’t lonely? Because yea, they most definitely might be. Quiet girls tend to be invisible in school for instance. I believe it happens more to men but don’t tell me women will never know what it feels like because I promise you some of us absolutely do. When no one understands you, you feel like you’re alone in the world. Loneliness is a feeling and state of mind and can occur even when there’s people around you. Wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:37 AM
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Naah I’ll have to disagree. This also comes with quite a few problems that in a lot of cases basically counteract the benefits. A lot of men treat women they aren’t attracted to as crap for instance. And of course, there’s the greater risk of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:29 AM
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Great points! I think it’s really important to be aware of these differences and the fact that both men and women have privileges, but it might be in different areas of life
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:26 AM
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But that varies a lot depending on what country it is. If you live somewhere with high crime rate and corrupt police for instance, then it makes sense to be awry all the time. If you live in a place where there’s basically no violent crimes being committed, especially to strangers, and you trust the police to protect you, then you won’t feel the same need of being suspicious to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:25 AM
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I agree, I don’t see it as a privilege really. Everything that happens to men but doesn’t happen to women aren’t automatically a privilege. Not being perceived as a criminal isn’t a privilege but rather common sense. The fact that people assume things about your personality or actions on the other hand, that might be both good or bad depending on the assumptions. Assumptions are rarely a positive to anyone though, unless they turn out to be true that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:20 AM
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Lol no I didn’t mean it like that. I mean how do you measure academic ability? Some people would argue that’s what grades are for but they in fact have a pretty bad validity and reliability. Grades are a measurement of performance if anything, not ability
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:15 AM
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Oh I get it. I can only speak from my own experiences though
/r/MensRights17/01/23 12:29 AM
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I’m sure this is true, but I don’t see how it might apply to one particular woman. Averages are rarely helpful on an individual level
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:23 AM
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I don’t get it, how did they conclude that two students had the same academic abilities? Anyway, yea it probably has something to do with how students behave in the classroom. Also, so since girls tend to have better verbal skills they probably write better as well, which tend to be at least somewhat important in most subjects. Teachers also tend to believe the best students are also the most intelligent, which isn’t true. It’s often those who question the teacher and who mostly seem bored and u…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:21 AM
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How are men “overtaxed”? If they work more hours then they’ll obviously pay more on income taxes. The percentage is the same though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:10 AM
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Which privileges would you say Mary in the example has then? Because all of your examples are quantitative and say very little about why the numbers are the way they are. How is it for instance a privilege that more women than men have a higher education if we don’t know why that is? Or why more men are at risk of being seriously ill due to covid?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:08 AM
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Well yea, how women think of sex is based on the biological fact that women have a lot more than men to lose in sexual encounters. How do you mean women’s sexuality has value and in what way is it a privilege? In what way does it benefit women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:33 PM
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In what way is this biology though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:25 PM
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