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CMVMogu__/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:10 PM
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Question For WomenMogu__/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:44 AM
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CMVMogu__/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:32 AM
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Question For MenMogu__/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:28 AM
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CMVMogu__/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:40 PM
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CMVMogu__/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 12:45 AM
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CMVMogu__/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:46 AM
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CMVMogu__/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:05 AM
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DiscussionMogu__/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:43 PM
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DebateMogu__/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:43 PM
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DiscussionMogu__/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:16 AM
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This is literally the most disingenuous way you could’ve possibly read into what I said. Most good looking people are not good looking because of the clothes they wear, they’re just good looking. Obviously some ways someone expresses themselves can have effect. BASE level things. But someone who’s ugly yet has great hygiene, wears fitted clothes, etc isn’t suddenly going to be on the same level as someone who’s naturally good looking facially. And even IF it were the case you’d still be agreeing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:31 PM
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Cool
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:28 PM
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Because everyone wants their reality to be validated. That’s really it. The only reason people continually argue about this is because people continually deny it. It’s unironically a form of gaslighting. It’s like if you found out your partner cheated and you 100% knew they cheated. Would it not bother you that they kept denying it? Even though YOU and maybe some other people knew they did?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:28 PM
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And? That literally has nothing to do with anything I said
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:55 PM
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Are you retarded? How you look is how you look.that’s not social skills. My social skills didn’t change when I developed a sharp jawline
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:55 PM
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It’s been years so I don’t exactly remember how they looked facially. For reference I was a junior at the time and they were freshman/sophomores. I do remember that none of them were overweight though all were skinny/average build.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:36 PM
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That’s quite literally what I said. You’re saying this as some major revelation when it’s not. Looks being the “entry fee” still means they matter the MOST. because without them you don’t even get a CHANCE to play the damn game. All people seem to want is acknowledgement of this, especially young men. If I could allow average to below average looking women to spend just 1 month in the body of average to below average men I would in a heart beat. You have no idea the struggle these men face when …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:35 PM
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I think the issue arises when you (not you specifically) throw out the the baby with the bath water. Most people will overwhelmingly acknowledge that they can struggle with things like socialization and in turn have it negatively effect their dating life. But no one online (and emphasis on online) seems to want to acknowledge that looks, especially the younger you are, by far plays the most important role. I feel like if people would simply admit that yes, a lot of the time you will be rejected …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:55 PM
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They’re 17. They just want to argue and think they’re right about everything
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:42 PM
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Social commentary mostly. I’d like to think I could bridge divides between the impulsive, reactionary, unhinged, and spite driven extremist on here. But if I make a post countering any aspect of the redpill narrative I’ll have all of them attacking me and if I make a post countering any aspect of the feminist narrative I’ll have all of them attacking me..so. You know you’re doing smth right when redpillers think you’re coping and feminist think you’re an incel! I always find it funny considering…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:01 AM
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Huh? 😂 bud idk what u got going on but I can assure u I’m FAR from an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:30 AM
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It literally doesn’t. Also it’s not about “making up for looks”. In terms of a RELATIONSHIP no girl is going to stay with a 10/10 guy with no career and no money. Those things come FIRST. Almost no woman on planet earth with rather be with a 10/10 who has nothing going for him than a. 5/10 who has even an average career and average salary with confidence and a personality. Men care about looks more because it’s one of the only things they care about. Youth and beauty. They just have a lower thre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:58 PM
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It’s not. Men care about women meeting their looks standards more than women care about men meeting there’s. But mens looks standards are less stringent than women’s are for mens. There’s a fundamental difference. So a guy will be way more firm about a girl being a 5/10 for example. He won’t budge. Yet a woman will have an 8/10 as her standard yet be open to dating a 6/10 who meets other requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:44 PM
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I’d agree. But I assume the redpill response would be “this is why the divorce courts work in the way they do”. With women getting custody of the children, men paying child support, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:00 PM
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You don’t need to be rich to be the sole provider. Also idk why you’re telling me this. I don’t care, it wasn’t the point of this post, and I’m not even redpill. Their beliefs are just very straightforward
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:20 AM
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The point isn’t about what’s viable, it’s about what’s ideal and what he believes people ought to do. Regardless of their ability to actually do those things. And I’d argue that it’s actually not that difficult for a young pretty woman to find a man who could easily provide for her financial needs and for a families. Assuming she meets the redpill check list of being feminine, submissive, and knowing how to cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:56 AM
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He literally asked in the REDPILL sense. Ofc non redpill people are gonna say it does matter. But in his world view a woman’s first priority should be to her man. And the man should provide for her financial needs, therefore how much money she makes at her job would be irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:55 AM
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Hmm ok that’s understandable. I definitely think women like you exist it just seems exceptionally rare in my experience. Because not only do the women I know who have engaged in promiscuity tend to have those experiences or traits. But the women I know who haven’t engaged in it tend to not have those experiences or traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:19 PM
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I’ve done this every time I post and never had my post removed cut the crap. Literally check my post history here. Almost every time would be prior to me sleeping and I wouldn’t respond for 8 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:57 PM
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Did you guys have a good relationship? Did your family try to force any conservative beliefs on you? Any past experiences of abuse? I’ve genuinely never met one woman in my life who after telling me about a promiscuous past didn’t go into some story about insecurities, bullying, lack of self esteem, abuse, sexual abuse, lack of a father figure, bad relationship with father, overbearing parents when young, etc. Also let me make it clear that there’s a distinction between casual sex and promiscuit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:55 PM
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Yea I’m not even trying to be rude just genuinely curious. I’ve talked to far too many women irl who would tell me about their promiscuous past and how they truly “enjoyed it”. Not even an 10 min later they’ll open up about some past sexual abuse, absent father, hated father, insecurities, lack of self esteem, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:46 PM
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What the hell is “OP abandonment”? I was sleeping
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:44 PM
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It is about control. What are you gonna say now? Call me some negative label? LMAO. No SHIT it’s about control dumbass. It’s about control, self agency, and what would broadly give men a better time in the dating market. No one’s asking men to control women. I’m TELLING men to control men. You’re probably just some unattractive chick who knows you’d get 0 attention if men start respecting themselves more and learn to live for anything else in life besides pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:42 PM
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What are you even talking about? Overwhelmingly most men don’t enjoy the dating market how it is. What I mean by stop simping is just giving women you’re not even with constant attention. Stop chasing, stop trying when there is no mutual attraction, stop trying to fuck every chick u come across.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:34 PM
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Genuine question Is your father in your life? Or was he growing up?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:21 AM
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The point isn’t about whether or not they benefit from it. The point is that they are effected by it in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:12 AM
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A man? Yes. A woman? Maybe but highly unlikely I’m not saying cheating isn’t bad for both, because it is. But men and women are different and based on how we think, feel, operate, and the roles we typically play it’s worse when a woman cheats.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:57 AM
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Which is literally why I said they don’t want to date a woman who’s career would take precedent over a family. Some woman who works at a call center or as a banker will be able to walk away easier than a woman who’s a lawyer or a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:24 AM
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Saying “this isn’t true at all” is hyperbolic as fuck. These things aren’t mutually exclusive. You can have young men who are inundated with RP shit without directly searching for it whilst simultaneously having young men who went out and searched by their own volition. It’s definitely a mix of both. Although I’d argue MOST are the latter and not the former. Most RP men find it after a breakup or failed attempt at attracting a woman. And by searching for answers come to the only place offering t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:33 PM
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Career focused and having a job aren’t mutually exclusive. I think most men would actually like for her to work a job and be self sustaining. They just don’t want to date a woman who’s career would take precedent over a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:08 PM
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I just said you don’t need women to look at you. A woman looking at you and a woman being interested in you are not mutually exclusive. You can go up to a girl who didn’t notice you previously and make her interested in you. Also this isn’t some traditional debate 🤓 you’re acting like a lazy fuck so I’m telling you. You seem to have 0 evidence to back your hopeless doomer beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:55 AM
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Bud I can’t help you if you don’t want to be helped. I tried. If you wanna continue living some miserable life where you have absolutely 0 self agency over your ability to better yourself and attract women then fine, go ahead. I listed far more than just “interest in life” which you chose to gloss over. And I thought I made it clear that it’s about being able to talk about the things you’re into and express passion. And you don’t NEED women to look in your general direction. Just go up and talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:57 PM
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While I agree women find a much smaller percentage of men attractive I think it’s important to note that this is based on online dating. Most men suck ass at taking pictures and when women talk about “attractiveness” while YES looks are a major factor how men generally “act” on the apps also contributes. What I mean is that many women will ignore, unadd, and even block guys they found physically attractive if they’re boring, immediately bring if sex, annoying, etc. So a large portion of that 80%…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:10 AM
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This sub really tryna gaslight me into thinking I’m more attractive than I am at this point LMAOO😂 I don’t even live in a major city. I live in Texas & near Houston take that as you will. I’m a 5’8, afro Latino, slightly above average looking, in shape guy. That’s it. I try to dress decently well. I have confidence, I’m funny, I’m chill, I’m easy asl to talk to, and never let a convo go dull. ^ everything I just said is something most men can do, something most men can achieve. I find it incredi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:51 AM
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What’s your point? I went out the other day and saw a 5’4 dorky looking white guy with his wife and little boy. A classmate from HS I just saw the other day started dating a really pretty Latina girl. He’s a 5’3 maybe 5’4 Filipino guy. No one. Literally no one is saying it isn’t harder. I don’t know how much sympathy I can possibly fucking give lmao. But you can either wallow in remorse over it for the rest of your life or realize it’s not some impossible handicap. You can still be happy, and yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:43 AM
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I’m very good at talking. You can laugh or think it’s a lie but it’s true lol. I’m probably in at least the 80th percentile when it comes to people skills. Not just with women but in general I’m good at conversations. Good at making them feel valued, listened to, etc. I don’t really try to be but I hear I’m funny. I engage in a lot of hobbies and have a lot of passions so I can literally talk for hours on end about anything and everything. Music, politics, video games, anime, movies, working out…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:37 AM
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Thank you for saying this lmao. There’s ALWAYS another excuse. I’ve been surrounded by men 6’0+ and still attracted the girl other guys wanted. Height matters a lot but a lot of these guys exaggerate. Most women aren’t going to end up with a 6ft guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:35 AM
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See. Then the only issue is finding some girl you genuinely like and want to be with. Which is difficult for basically everyone regardless of looks. Handsome, tall, etc men don’t magically get into a relationship and have it go perfectly. Nor do beautiful and gorgeous women. The only benefit is really more opportunity. So what u and most people have to do to offset that is put yourself out there to more people. Is it easy? No. But it’s simple. And sometimes the simplest things are the hardest
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:31 AM
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If that’s true you should have no trouble getting a girlfriend. And there should be at least some women willing to sleep with you. The issue for most men isn’t getting a girlfriend or even getting a girl to have casual sex. It’s 1. There opportunities to do so, and 2. Finding a girl that THEY are attracted to. As much as we love to say men are way less picky than women (which is true), men STILL have standards. If I fucked every girl that would fuck me I’d be at LEAST 50+ n count by now. But I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:10 AM
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Honestly not even. Now that he’s gotten fit he has a better jawline and less face fat. And he got a decent haircut. But most men have that and can do that. He doesn’t have the stereotypical “K-pop” Korean asian look that would be beneficial either. Just looks like how the average guy would if he lost fat, gained lean muscle, had an apparent jawline, and decent haircut. But the biggest change though was his MENTAL and PERSONALITY. We talked and he opened up to me about how back in HS he felt he w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:06 PM
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I disagree. It all matters to varying degrees depending on the girl and depending on the setting. I know a 10/10. I mean this girl is drop dead gorgeous. She’s dating the most dorky looking mf who is nothing like her previous relationships. I’ve fw plenty of girls myself. Some who are only slightly shorter than me at 5’6,5’7. And I was the first “short” guy they’d ever fw when their previous relationships were with men like 6’2+ I’m not the best looking guy most of these girls have been with lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:59 PM
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They really don’t. The way I naturally speak evokes confidence even when I’m not trying to be. I remember one time I was hanging out with some of my friends and one of them randomly tells me how I speak very confidently and sure of myself. At the time I wasn’t sure what he meant and I said smth like ”hmm, what do you mean by that?” And he was like “SEE! You just did it!” 😂 I think it largely has to do with my father tbh. He speaks that way and I probably just picked it up over the years. I’m onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:41 PM
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I have a friend who’s 5’5, Asian, and fucked multiple women in college. Now has a pretty girlfriend who previously was definitely out of his league. He used to be overweight but hit the gym and it helped him gain confidence while looking better. It’s not going to be easy. But it’s certainly doable. Learn to be more extroverted, open, chill, secure, and confident. Expand your social circle as much as possible. And I cannot stress this enough if you’re not already find some kind of physics activit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:37 PM
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Not sure how many times this needs to be said but they are not mutually exclusive. Nor does correlation imply causation. JUST BECAUSE LOOKS CAN MAKE UP FOR A LACK OF PERSONALITY/CONFIDENCE. DOES NOT MEAN PERSONALITY & CONFIDENCE CANNOT MAKE UP FOR A LACK OF LOOKS. Do you understand? No shit some 6’4 handsome guy is going to have it easier. So what? You gonna cry about it? You people have this mindset of “if I can’t simply walk into a room and have pussy be thrown at me like I’m brad Pitt then it…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:34 PM
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I mean it’s shorter than average. Most guys are taller than me when I go out but maybe it’s just where I live. Also I’m SLIGHTLY above average facially. I also workout and stay in good shape which anyone can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:00 PM
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I never said you have to be intelligent per se. It can definitely help a ton especially with the right women. Nor am I denying that being very good looking will enough for many girls regardless of personality. But looks making up for a lack of personality or confidence does not equal personality, confidence, charisma, etc not making up for a lack of looks. Correlation does not imply causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:54 PM
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I wouldn’t even go that far tbh. Looks definitely matte, a lot. But they aren’t nearly as much of the end all be as a lot of men think. Now ofc being confident is simply more common in men who do well with women. Buts it’s not SOLELY derived through that and has to start somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:47 PM
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If you mean literally every single one no cause it’s not my goal. But anytime I download tinder with that goaI i can usually find 3 down within a week. But ig I sorta have a few “fwb” set up and I’m a lazy guy so unless 1 of those ends for wtv reason I tend to not bother meeting tons of different women. Especially since I’m picky myself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:44 PM
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Is this supposed to be some profound revelation? Ofc it would be harder, much much much harder more than likely. But not impossible. The point that I’m trying to make is that men my height and shorter will apply this negative mindset and think they have absolutely no chance. Or think that personality, charisma, etc have 0 effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:41 PM
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Men would probably be a bit less prone to commitment since they’d be able to get more sex without it. Women care way less about their friends opinions about a man and need far less social validation to commit to anything with him. Manosphere probably wouldn’t even exist, there wouldn’t be nearly as much of an obstacle to overcome being a short man. Only fans and sex work in general would still exist but be drastically less common. Relationships would be far more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:06 AM
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I’m going to be honest I don’t believe that💀 like sure I believe they may have alluded to it or blatantly said it. But they don’t genuinely prefer/require that. A guy saying some shit like that or even “I want a girl with a fat ass” is worth nothing. I knew a guy once who would say all the time he’d never date a girl who was flat then dated the flattest chick you’d ever seen in your life. Women tend to be way more stringent and steadfast with these “preferences” (that are really requirements). I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:02 AM
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What irl men do u ever meet who have this preference? Sounds like some exaggerated shit off Reddit from some 15 year old white boy who watches ecchi anime all day would say
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:56 AM
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Honestly just the astonishing amount of fat women who won’t date fat men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:53 AM
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Maybe I’m not looking in the right places but I’m genuinely struggling to think of a single man even among these red pillars who complain about things like kindness, generosity, responsibility, financial stability, etc. Literally no man gets upset at women for genuine standards. The only time men ever question or contest “standards” is when they’re arbitrary like height, making an insane amount of money, etc. And if you wanna claim that they shouldn’t even complain those things about regardless …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:44 AM
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Clearly it is the point when you mentioned it as your primary evidence and as some grand revelation, otherwise you wouldn’t have bothered. And as I already said there’s still more than enough skinny, in shape, average, etc people in younger groups to where it’s not even remotely the advantage you’re attempting to make it out to be. They’re completely different playing fields
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:28 PM
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I can’t believe I have to say this but dude, you went to ONE grocery store😭😂 ofc the average there was old and fat. I’m not saying America in general doesn’t have a massive obesity problem, it certainly does. But I can promise you than within younger groups there’s still enough fit, skinny, and average built people to where it’s not nearly enough to be some massive leverage. On OLD maybe I’d have to agree with you. Especially when it comes to being a non fat/chubby chick it’s seemingly a massive…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:28 PM
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He’s weird asl 😂just keeps moving the goal post to more and more irrelevant shit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:20 PM
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Bud this is the weirdest & worst attempt at a straw man I’ve seen in awhile Whether or not I’ve had a threesome is irrelevant to whether or not I could get a threesome. And that’s irrelevant to this entire conversation. This isn’t about what I want or what you want. It’s about what most men would want. We’re not talking about “most people” we’re talking about most men. I know you’re stuck to your computer 24/7 jacking it to only fans girls but try and step outside for once bud. Actually try talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:46 PM
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I know you weirdos love projecting your lack of love and affection onto everyone else but I can assure you I’ve had 0 problems getting laid in my life. Shocker, not everyone who has sex cares or doesn’t care about the same things regarding sex as you might. Most men would not find out about their partners past threesome and think it’s a “sexy curiosity” you’re beyond delusional if you genuinely think that. Maybe in some small queer leftist bubble you’re apart of in LA or Seattle, not the majorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:35 PM
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Try and read what I said again. The point isn’t about your subjective morality. The point is that both are things that the vast majority of people would want to know before deciding to be in relationship with someone. Whether or not YOU care or YOU think it should matter is irrelevant to the fact that most MEN do care and most MEN think it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 08:03 AM
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Lying by omission is still lying. It doesn’t matter how much women want to pretend men don’t care or that it doesn’t matter. The fact remains that most men DO care and most men do feel it matters. It would be different if they got into a relationship and immediately kissed, had sex, etc. But the fact that she made him wait a MONTH for a kiss and MONTHS for sex just for him to find out later that she was hoeing around is the real issue. Whether or not you or anyone else finds that to be an issue …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:45 AM
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Tbh I think the genuinely sad part is how those men are told to just deal with it, not complain, lower standards, etc. Yet if some ugly and or fat chick wants a handsome, tall, fit, etc man she’ll often even get praised for it. Told she’s a queen for having “standards”. I don’t even want to imagine what it must be like for a guy who’s very short and below average facially. It’s ironic because they’ll tell these men to focus on improving their personality constantly. Yet the moment u provide an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 07:44 AM
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As far as my experience goes, yea
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:30 PM
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Cause I only have experience with women in that regard
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:40 PM
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I don’t think most women are promiscuous so yea I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:40 PM
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I never said pretty women who have casual sex are rare…so no these aren’t women I’m describing as rare. I said it’s rare for PROMISCUOUS women. And what makes me deem them as not being promiscuous is because they aren’t frequently engaging in casual sex with different people. This might seem shocking to you. But some people have casual sex without making it a frequent thing or doing or so with a multitude of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:33 AM
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No one “pulled me up” on that, whatever that means😂 I of my own volition acknowledged I probably would’ve been more clear. So if u actually read other comments, you’d know that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:19 AM
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You’re like the 3rd person to say this it’s kinda funny😂 Idk how many times this needs to be said by promiscuity ≠ casual sex. I’ve had sex with plenty of attractive women. The notion that casual sex MUST mean the women is promiscuous is simply false.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:14 AM
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Promiscuity ≠ casual sex I’ve had plenty of sex with attractive women. They’re basically the only women I choose to have sex with. But choosing to have casual sex doesn’t make a woman promiscuous. Nice attempt at the own though must’ve felt smart👏🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:08 AM
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There could definitely be and certainly are other contributing factors. But I don’t think that takes away from physical attractiveness being one. I think I said “frequent casual sex with multiple partners” more times than I can bear by now…not sure how maladaptive casual sex plays into that but if we’re considering those the same then 👍🏾 Maybe. Although I don’t sleep with those women and most have told me outside of any sexual innuendos. I never said they couldn’t be. I simply think it’s far les…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:44 AM
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Hmm I mean I’d agree there’s a huge difference but in the sense that you need less frequent casual sex with different partners to have a negative impact than you do different alcohols every weekend. Maybe I’m just insane or Reddit is a different place. But personally and from most people I talk to irl (especially women) this desire to have sex with some new person you barely know every week is far from typical. And the women I have met who intentionally seek that out or are fine with it happenin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:25 AM
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I’m the last person to purposefully seek out insecure women. It’s something I actively avoid. If I slept with every insecure woman that came across my path my body count would be stacked to the sky by now. Maybe it is the ultra rare unicorn experience you don’t seem to think it is. I just don’t think you realize how you’re purposefully letting your limited world view Supersede others extensive experiences. I provided examples and alluded to others. Do you have any other besides yourself? Who isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:03 AM
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Bud, this is a CMV. The burden of proof quite literally DOESN’T lie on me. I never deduced anything about the “majority of women”. This is very specifically about average and below average promiscuous women, who also happen to be the majority of women that are promiscuous. I’m just confused as to why you’re evidently VERY triggered. Especially by my use of anecdotes when this is literally a topic that once again, cannot be dealt with empirically. Do you not realize how much you’re projecting? Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:56 AM
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I don’t think a single thing I said came across as even remotely defensive or antagonistic 💀 but believe what you will. Are you actually reading anything I’m typing? Take a deep breathe and re-read. That’s not even what my theory was about. My theory was about why average and below average who engage in promiscuous behavior do so. Not about why most women who are promiscuous are average/below average, that was a separate claim. This is once again irrelevant without you linking any study. Just li…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:43 AM
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Sounds similar to what I was considering for a bit except the female equivalent lol. If what you’re saying is really true then I don’t think I really consider them a unicorn. I’d consider a unicorn more so being an average and especially below average woman who is promiscuous without any baggage. Ig my curiosity more so stems from why bother with multiple partners? Is it just because it’s extremely easy for pretty women? Being a woman I’d think you’d much rather want to find 1 or 2 guys who are …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:24 AM
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Honestly I’d agree with you that they’re a red flag as well, even if for differing reasons. Personally I’ve never found joy in mindlessly hooking up with as many women as possible. I didn’t even have to try it to know. I’ve always preferred relationships or fwb. So while I like to think I could fuck numerous women every week without it bothering me. I think the fact that I don’t even have that mindset/desire says something in of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:15 AM
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I didn’t make any blanket statements lol do you know know what that means? My anecdotal experience not being analogous with yours doesn’t make it a blanket statement. Not sure what you being short, bald, or brown had to do with that 😂 but I appreciate the laugh. Tell me if I’m wrong but you’re trying to say is you don’t mean the “looks”. You mean there’s women supposedly who are stable enough to engage in casual sex without having mental health issues, insecurities etc. right? I AGREE. I never s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:08 AM
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I could definitely see that being true. Ig it would just mean that in a hyper sexualized society where hook up culture is the norm that people with mental health issues would be more prone to look to sex as a means of easing those issues. Do you think that even if this were solely the case and that it didn’t “majorly contribute” or cause mental health issues that it would still be enough to consider promiscuous behavior a negative? Because personally I’d have to say yes. Similar to the ways in w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:58 AM
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It doesn’t cause them to be more open about it lol. Have you seen incels? I can promise you, plenty of men who have never had sex would talk about women in those ways. Not everything is exactly the same between broad categorizations of people generally. Idk why you or anyone else tries to argue that frequent casual sex is just as harmful for men when it simply isn’t. Do I think it can have harms? Absolutely. But it’s generally not the same. Just like how porn disproportionately affects men in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:51 AM
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Did you read the paragraph prior? I never said that women in totality or even women generally engage in casual sex do so for my theorized reasons. I was talking specifically about average and below average women who are promiscuous (engaging frequently in casual sex with multiple partners). I can’t comment on this at all without you linking the study. Bringing it up without providing it is already bad but then trying to extrapolate off of it into a claim about sexual behavior is even worse. I ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:46 AM
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I never said they all were. I just mean that even men who are virgins or don’t engage in frequent casual sex can say stuff like that. Which leads to my main point which is that sex isn’t the cause of that behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:38 AM
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Gonna reply in a bit phones about to shut off. But you as well👌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:08 AM
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I’d agree and say it can definitely be present in non promiscuous women as well ofc. But I’d argue that engaging in promiscuity can exacerbate the problems, create new problems, or simply be more indicative of those problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:07 AM
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Care to explain how my anecdotes are flimsy rather than making blanket statements? Also no kidding they’re anecdotal. That’s the only way to go about discussing this. There’s no concrete empirical data to substantiate ANY claim regarding this. Nor a lot of dating issues in general. I can’t tell if you’re assuming I meant casual sex in general when I meant promiscuity (engaging in casual sex frequently with different partners). Also I never said there weren’t a lot of women willing to engage in c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:05 AM
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Ahh I probably should’ve made it more clear in my post that I really just meant promiscuous as in the context of having casual sex frequently with different partners. I don’t think doing so once or even once in awhile seems to be some commonly negative thing. Also if the person genuinely cared I’d ague that while it helps, if the woman in question is still dealing with issues I listed it could still ultimately have a negative outcome (if a frequent thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:44 AM
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Depends on your definitions of either. But in this context I was using both to refer to what most would consider to be “promiscuous”. So frequently having causal sex with different partners
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:40 AM
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Idk how to say this without ruining your probably already shit perception of men. But none of that is exclusive to “promiscuous men” lmao. Dudes who are virgins and insecure will talk like that. It’s not that thy started having casual sex and suddenly become weirdos or assholes. They were always like that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:32 AM
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Are you ever able to engage in something without whataboutisms? I’m a straight guy, I don’t deal with men like that. If u wanna talk about them though at the very least acknowledge everything I’ve said is true. Or actually contend with it instead of trying to divert to “but men!”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:23 AM
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I don’t hang out with men not similar to myself. So no, none of them say anything “disbursing”. You can go ahead and share or continue vaguely suggesting to something though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:22 AM
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Alas the universe made it so I’m only bound with the burden of women. Maybe it is the same for men who engage in casual sex, but I can’t tell you as I personally don’t deal with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:19 AM
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No woman has ever told me those guys actually cared about them. Many however have told me that they lied to themselves during that they did care or that the experience was a genuinely fulfilling/validating one. I already made it clear that this is all based on my personal (but rather extensive) experience. If you have a different one feel free to convey it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:14 AM
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Completely agree. Porn can be insanely toxic and often is specifically for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 12:54 AM
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Because silly! Women have full agency and awareness when it’s with unsuccessful men in dating for the sake of an argument!! Yet lose all of it the moment that benefits a different narrative ofc!! Lmao. In all seriousness though. This idea that it’s somehow blaming women for advising them on being more aware of men with shitty qualities is ridiculous. I don’t think most people are claiming you can tell 100% of the time. But this idea that ALL men who are “abusive” are somehow these Megamind clone…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:39 PM
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Somehow I feel like despite all these women admitting it’s never happened or is insanely rare the moment a guy says this as a general statement rather than posing it as a question there’s gonna be a ton if not some of the same women denying it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 06:44 AM
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I feel like this is dealing with weird extremes. In reality, over the age of 18, typically this will look something like a guy being excessively or insufficiently in contact with her. Neither of which are some specific time considering women aren’t all the same. I’ve talked to some who wanna text all day long, others who text sporadically, some who try to fall asleep on FaceTime, another who hates phone calls, etc. This isn’t some one shoe fits all thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 06:40 AM
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I’m gonna be honest I’m beyond confused by what point you’re trying to make. Idc about the 90s I’m talking about rn. Also I’m a dude😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:55 AM
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What’s so confusing? The notion that family members never constantly criticize anyone for their weight is simply beyond false. Hence why I said you’d be surprised. Because by your comment you’d evidently be very surprised to find out just how common it is
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:50 AM
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Lmao. You’d be very surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:47 AM
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Maybe I worded it badly. I meant that whenever men DO comment on weight, they’re far more likely to comment on a man’s weight. Not that they comment on weight in general a large amount. Then ig you have a bone to pick with tons of women on PPD. Cause they seem to think “fat phobia” is literally any Ill talk, opinion, etc of fat women in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:40 AM
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Nah but I do agree women tend to be more entertaining/articulate texters, so thank you. Maybe you have hung around some “assholes”? Idk. Obviously this is all personal experience but I’ve been around plenty of pieces of shit. Never heard em talk about fat women though & obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:39 AM
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Well first a phobia doesn’t solely mean a fear. It can also mean a strong aversion Secondly I’d agree that fat phobia despite being able to exist, there isn’t nearly enough anti fatness (at least in the US) to bother labeling it as such. Hence why I put it in quotations
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:35 AM
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Ah yup read misread then And I’d definitely say those guys were in the minority. At least you acknowledge that much
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:25 AM
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HAHAHAH that’s pretty funny
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:22 AM
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I’m literally a man😭 so that’s certainly not it. Been in plenty of supposedly “toxically masculine” settings as well. Soccer teams, football teams, boxing, gamers, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:20 AM
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I don’t think so. It just so happens that anytime a woman wants to mention it (because only women mention it) it’s about fat women, never about fat men. Then the “general narrative” is wrong, at least in mine and many girls I know extensive personally experiences. Maybe try speaking to people who’s arent terminally online. I’ve never met a fat chick who’s heard more about her weight from men than from women. I’d love to hear these examples of being called a fat cow. Cause I’m not just talking ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:17 AM
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Without reading any of that no and maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:13 AM
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Bud, are you really that bad faith. I gave 1 account of men making fun of fat men. And numerous of women making fun of fat women. Women largely are still the perpetuators of supposed “fat phobia”. Also let’s be real. No one ever gives af about men when talking about fat phobia. These people at large are talking about fat women. Not to mention I still have had many experiences of women putting down fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:09 AM
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No one said women are a monolith, once again try and read. Generally speaking though, most women care about height. Whether one girl has a requirement for 6ft and the other does for 5’10 and the other does for 5’8 doesn’t change that. Also I’m not sure if you meant 5’1 but 5’11 to 6ft is not only not some large range, but also not even remotely short.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:52 PM
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You’re making an argument for integrity which doesn’t work when most people don’t agree with you. The fact is even women who don’t directly height shame men themselves will still not speak up about it when it happens as they would when seeing slut shaming. I want you to try and put yourself in the position of some short guy and realize what you’re asking him. It’s essentially the equivalent of asking him to advocate for a broad group that doesn’t advocate for him, at all. And it’s not even simil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:06 PM
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Maybe we’re on a different sub. But I continually see people on here trying to convince people to alter their preferences. Women on here want to fall back to “just don’t slut shame”. Yet whenever a discussion/debate is going on that’s now what they say. They start talking with the guys about their morally different views in sex and how there’s are wrong but hers is right. I’ve even seen religious criticism on here. We can pretend all day that the issue is only slut shaming, but let’s be real for…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:56 PM
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I completely agree. But we don’t live in society where most people agree. Or if they claim to agree they solely do so when it’s an issue they face. Women will yell this at the roof tops on here. “It’s fine just don’t shame women”. Yet the same energy is never kept when discussing men and height shaming. They’re just told to suck it up and stop being bitter. Which is even more ironic considering 1. They have no say over their height, and 2. It’s body shaming yet gets even less criticism than fat …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:53 PM
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Can you genuinely not read or are you being willfully ignorant? I said men IN REAL LIFE never say to a girl “you’re a slut so I won’t date you”. I never said some men don’t make comments on the internet about not wanting to date a slut. You actually cannot read. I never denied some men on Reddit say shit like that. I said MOVE ON. Where is this OUTRAGE every time a woman calls a man “useless” “pathetic” “not a man” “unattractive” “undesirable” “a baby”? Etc for his height??? It’s non existent. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:34 PM
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Huh fr….weird
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:21 PM
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When was the last time you saw a woman being killed for lying about her body count? Women are not being killed in totality, mostly, or largely by men for them being deemed as sluts, whores, etc. But ofc you have to do what all the internet warrior feminist do and jump back to “bu- bUt! mEn kIlL!” When you’re looking like a clown. That’s not even remotely relevant enough to have any stake within this conversation. Women don’t just “move on”. Funny enough men irl will never say to a girl “you’re a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:11 PM
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You mean just like some women will insult men for height? Which is even worse considering they have no control over it. If you criticize that equally then I’d respect your world view. But the issue remains that at large most women do not do that. Most women deny there’s even a massive distaste towards short men. I was scrolling on tinder one day and matched with a girl who had “don’t talk with me if you’re under 5’8” in her bio. Despite being taller I still unmatched. I already addressed this. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:01 PM
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Perhaps. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:56 PM
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Women generally caring about height isn’t a red pill narrative. And no one said relationships were solely decide by height, take a deep breath and read. I stated the fact that on OLD women can tell height, and attribute qualities like confidence to tall men immediately. They cannot SEE confidence. There’s a reason no woman says “confident men only!” Or “I don’t date insecure men!” Yet they do put “ ___ height only” and “no short men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:20 AM
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This literally reads like satire. I can’t tell if you’re being serious. Women don’t “see” confidence on OLD. And most women just associate confidence, masculinity, Etc with being tall, especially on OLD when once again, they cannot SEE confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:31 PM
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Men can plan against some issues they face as well no? Doesn’t take away that they’re issues. I don’t think men being able to avert gold diggers means they aren’t an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:57 PM
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Agree Agree Agree Agree Ok look I agree but next time just says “rapist” lmao rapers just sounds weird asf So non fat, ugly, “tasteless” men who do so are in the clear? That was rhetoric. Your common sense answer will be “ofc”. In which case just say men in general who throw abuse at women. Agree Agree No man who does this is a creep. Also this is highly prone to subjectivity. I’m sure you would say women can go for men outside of their league if they want. So keep that same energy and say it fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:56 PM
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You really can’t think of a single problem women face when dating? Even if it’s a problem they face dealing with “chad”?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:51 PM
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OHH mb I thought this was the new one posted for men lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:48 PM
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When myself and most normal people think of “mental strength” they think of someone’s mental capacity to process a difficult situation and keep on pushing through despite it. Not whether or not someone has good spatial or pattern recognition. Empirical findings show that women may express more emotion than men, not that they feel more emotion than men. Even during menstruation women tend to have similar emotional patterns to men. Even studies that could support your claim are limited by relying …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:40 PM
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Ironically enough the highest IQ holder ever is a woman. But I fail to see how IQ is directly correlated with “mental weakness”. I think In certain situations men and women will broadly show greater/worse mental strength. Men for instance tend to take longer to get over long term relationships, the rate of suicide among men is significantly higher than women, men tend to lash out externally with physical violence demonstrably more than women, etc. At the same time, women tend to suffer from ptsd…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:25 PM
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Evidently you’re talking about women so I’m not sure why you bothered saying “people”😂. But Physically? Sure. Although mentally? If men were the emotional pillars of strength many like to pretend they are a sub like this wouldn’t even exist. You’d see far less talking/complaining and far more action.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:10 PM
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Seeing that shit in person is wild 😂 seems to come out of no where as well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:57 PM
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I don’t really compliment women like that much in general unless we’re already together. I’m not personally a fan of being showered in compliments myself so I don’t do it to others. Maybe some has been based on myself but I doubt most of it has.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:31 PM
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Most feminist don’t support amber. Rad fems do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:26 PM
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Yea I definitely agree. Any ideas on how to stop it though? Cause let’s be real all this “hold your friends accountable” Crap many people spew is useless. Those types of men tend to hang out with those types of men, or have no friends whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:27 AM
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I think that’s a really good point. I’ve fw a lot of pretty women and a common occurrence is definitely this direct correlation between their confidence and how attractive they think they are that day. I mean mens confidence can vary as well ofc. But some women derive like 90% of their confidence from their physical appearance. Where as with men it’s definitely more of a mix of looks, status, achievements, & ambition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:54 AM
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Idk why but the “chronically single” made me laugh😭
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:21 AM
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Ohh yea that’s definitely true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:14 AM
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Ahh yea I’d agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:05 AM
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Bud what. You’re literally the carbon copy of some FDS woman on my other post for women. Stop being so triggered by the wording. I’m literally a guy and a guy who cares about mens issues/mental health at that, calm down🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:02 AM
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What did you mean by the last sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:01 AM
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BB?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:59 AM
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I don’t think you read my question correctly 😂 it was for men in regards to what issues women face. Unless you meant “the problem is when they start downplaying mens struggles”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:58 AM
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He seems to mean that men broadly are valued for how much money they make an status, whereas women are broadly valued for just looks. So a man who’s a 3 is more likely to attract women by having money, working a good job, etc. But a woman who’s a 3 won’t see nearly as much of a significant increase in her prospects by making money or getting a high status job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:55 AM
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I’m only 20 so I can’t really answer. But I’d assume for most men it depends. The woman your age could have similar interest yet not want kids while you do. And despite not having common interest in the younger woman that younger woman could want kids. On top of having a lot of other positive qualities. I don’t think there’s a concrete yes or no answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:23 AM
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It has everything to do with an eye for an. Not every man who deals with dating problems and expresses them “relentlessly attacks the opposite gender” either. Even speaking exclusively about this sub it’s a miss characterization to claim that all the men on here “attack” women or that they aren’t being genuine when asking for sympathy. And PLEASE show me a comment of a woman expressing genuine sympathy and getting “attacked” and “demeaned” for it . No double meanings, no sarcasm etc. Show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:21 AM
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This is just wrong. Even if you somehow were given such shit genetics that at low body fat percentage you just have an “ugly” face. Having that body will STILL help. Would u rather be ugly and fat or skinny? Or ugly and in good shape? The good thing is that MOST men and people in general are average looking by default. A lot of these black pillers are literally average but don’t wanna put any effort in because they aren’t the 1% of genetically gifted people who look good even with low effort. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:03 AM
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I don’t think this is true. But even if it were, so what? Double down and lack empathy for ALL men who are facing problems? Listen to yourself. It’s the equivalent a child being like “but he did it first!” when It doesn’t matter. An eye for an eye doesn’t solve the problem, it makes the whole world blind. And I say the same thing to the men who try and justify that behavior by saying “but women!!!” The real solution is that people need to stop stacking their entire worth, character, and mood on …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:57 AM
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I get what you’re but logically speaking this could only potentially be justification for men being praised for having sex. Or at the very least make it understandable. But not necessarily justification for women being shamed for having it. For this to logically follow you would have to prove that sex, in of itself, is some negative thing. And that women engaging in it haphazardly are causing a negative outcome. Whether for themselves or broader society. I’ve thought about this a lot. And seemin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:59 PM
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Idk what society you live in in general but girls in elementary school are not shamed in totality, overwhelmingly, or largely for being virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:37 PM
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Cool
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:29 PM
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Because this is Reddit, and PPD to top it all off. Most people answer impulsively
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:56 AM
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The question was for women? Are you ok…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:55 PM
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You’re actually beyond help. Just because a man is approaching a woman doesn’t mean he must only see he as “a pair of tits”. I’m not redpill. I don’t look at approaching & talking to women as “game”, I just talk to them. Nor do I consider them “smiling” as a sign of an interaction going well. I consider it leading to us going on a date, or leading to sex, or a whole relationship, as going well. You’re evidently extremely angry and bitter. Which explains you trying to project onto me claiming I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:48 PM
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Ah yes. I’m so unclear that you’re the only person who seems to think so. Are you actually this dumb. Or just being willfully ignorant? I need to know. The notion that all or most single adults who don’t have social circles don’t have them by choice to avoid them is beyond delusional. Nor does everyone working full time jobs have the time to be constantly going out to social venues to meet people. That’s why you don’t immediately date them? You talk to them, see if there’s mutual interest, then …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:13 PM
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I’m trying so hard to be nice but what you said is so shockingly stupid that I’m struggling to comprehend you’re an actual human being that exist and functions. Good god. I’m gonna try and say this so even you can understand. Just. because. a. man. approaches. a. woman. based. on. physical. appearance. does. not. mean. that. he. will. only. care. about. physical. appearance. as. they’re. talking. Was that clear enough for you? Not fucking kidding he only cares about physical appearance when appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:06 PM
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Congratulations u are my final reply after about an hour and 20 min of replying to every comment 👏🏾 I’d agree though. If I hadn’t made the decision all the way back in 9th grade my mom would probably still have me cutting my hair short asf today lmao. I remember when I was 18 I had to ask her about skin care & shit and eventually I asked why she never automatically assumed it was smth for me yet did for my younger sister. And her answer was essentially just that it was the norm for girls when sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:54 PM
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Modern lonelinessss, we're never alone But always depressed, yeah Love my friends to death But I never call and I never text, yeah La di da di da You get what you give and give what you get, so Modern lonelinesssss, we love to get highhh But we don't know how to come down Down, down, down, down, down We don't know how to come down Down!, down!, down!, down!, down! But sí I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:50 PM
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Idk why this was so funny to me. Just “short men” and 0 elaboration needed😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:47 PM
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Hmm tbh I haven’t even thought about this much before I could definitely see how challenging this could be
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:46 PM
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Just dating in general tbh so it’s up to your discretion
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:42 PM
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Presumably for the same reasons you’d feel bad for literally anyone dealing with social anxiety. It’s a hard thing. But the difficulty of it is greatly exacerbated when you’re trying to ask women out as a man. Are you trying to tell me you can’t even remotely understand why someone would feel sympathy for a guy who really wants to be in a relationship but struggles to talk to women without being awkward/shy? Would you say the same for men who are explicitly on neurodivergent?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:42 PM
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Feel free to explain how, I implore you. Or you could just make more blanket statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:38 PM
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I think I’d agree with all of that. I think it’s also perfectly fine to acknowledge you may like a traditional gender role whilst still believing it should be less stringent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:36 PM
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Everything becomes patronizing when you’re bitter. But that’s lovely because I personally don’t need your sympathy😭 although do feel free to direct it at men generally if you’d like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:34 PM
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Gracias. Hopefully your display of understanding some potential male issues makes dudes more open to understanding women face issues as well 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:31 PM
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You just come off as the equivalent of a black pilled feminist. Your second paragraph is essentially conjecture and you attacking an argument that no one made. I never said anyone should be entitled to a relationship, nor did I ask broadly why you “people may struggle”. I asked what specific problems you think men face in dating, if any, and any possible solutions. As well as if you feel in sympathy for those problems. This would be like you asking the same question about women and then some guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:27 PM
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That sounds like a personal problem derived from a negative predisposition. Other women didn’t seem to have a problem with the wording. Most people on PPD impulsively answer, but if you felt attacked specifically I don’t really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:12 PM
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Yea depending on your social setting it can be harder or easier. Even depending on race/ethnicity & expectations around height. What I will say though is that if you’re in shape, and walk around like you don’t care, It’ll really make a massive difference. And nothing wrong with going for girls who tend to be more accepted of shorter men either. Hispanic and Asian women especially Filipino tend to not give af. Really as a shorter guy the best thing to do is the same for any man. Work on and bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:10 PM
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Your perception has about as much real world application to me as the red pill male view that all women only want a guy whose 6ft+ with a 7+ inch dick. Sure, for sex men don’t give af about any of that. Bud for relationships? They 100% cars. I’ve seen women garner attention from men they other wise probably shouldn’t have just by mentioning they’re into the same geeky things like Star Wars, anime, gaming, etc. Hell I could make your argument about women if I really wanted to from your avg red pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:03 PM
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Lemme be more specific since you’re being deliberately stupid. Not everyone THROUGH their social circles has an opportunity to meet people. You can have friend groups for years and still not be introduced to women and more importantly women you’re actually interested in. Not to mention someone can have friends without having an entire friend group, it’s insanely common, especially for grown adults. That’s cool for you bud😂 Most people aren’t “completely disgusted”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:50 PM
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Ig saying the societal stigma around men being short would be more accurate then. Because being short in of itself (especially 5’6) isn’t enough to completely ruin dating chances. But the mindset a guy that height adopts can definitely hurt whatever chances he could’ve had.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:12 AM
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I already get laid I don’t personally need sympathy. The reason I asked this is because I’ve rarely seen women on here able to openly express actual care for mens issues because everyone’s always at each other’s necks. And I figured if I could get any women to show they do care even somewhat (because I knew some did) it would make guys on here less likely to demonize all women and less likely to think women don’t care about mens issues whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:08 AM
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What are you even talking about. Obviously you’d ask out a stranger based on physical attraction, and clothing style. You have nothing else to go off of. And for some people they may not have the opportunity of a social circle to meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:06 AM
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What I mean is that women tend to look for negatives despite all the positives in a man while men tend to look for positives despite all the negatives in a women. A woman could like a lot about a guy but could still be like “yea he’s really nice but he’s too nice” or “yea he took me out on great dates which other guys haven’t but he doesn’t do anything for me sexual” or “he’s really good looking but short” and so on. While a guy could be negatively impacted by some things a chick is doing yet st…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:04 AM
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That’s great. And I’ve explained why I think your beliefs are akin to mental gymnastics, not applicable in most situations, or simply irrelevant/unfair to men. If you don’t wanna contend with any of that though, you don’t have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:14 AM
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Bud I’m gonna be honest this is absolutely egregious to read through. But from painfully skimming through your general point you took 50 years to say it seems to be the same old red pilled one. You think it’s in the sexes inherent best interest that men pay on dates. Your massive misconception, well, one of them, lies in the fact that I have more than enough success with women. And I know what a type of woman expects prior to going out with her. I could participate in something without approving…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:10 AM
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What multiple women have replied would beg to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:01 AM
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This seems so loosely correlated to me. I agree that women should be less sexualized in general. But I don’t think it has any relation or is even remotely significantly related to men feeling undesired and unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:00 AM
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Would make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:58 AM
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What I asked initially is irrelevant we’ve been having a subset conversation. What you really mean to say is you don’t like having your beliefs logically challenged, and now you wanna back out, which is perfectly fine. 👍🏾 you have as much of a right to not defend what you think as I do to say why I think it’s nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:58 AM
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Fair enough. But it isn’t optimism, it’s my reality. I’ve talked about these things a TON in real life, face to face with women, and with women I’ve had sexual relationships with. You’d be surprised how much acknowledging woman’s issues first and not coming off as hella angry/bitter can make them sympathize with mens issues. Virtue signaling how? I literally don’t see any benefits for women who claim to care about mens issues, none. If anything with the current leftist paradigm it seems more ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:51 AM
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Yea it’s kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy as well. Considering that not interacting with lonely men because they’re seen as creepy makes them more likely to come off as creepy due to a lack of social interaction. Then by interacting with genuinely creepy men who are lonely, it only furthers that perception of lonely men, repeating the cycle. It sucks but this is why it’s so important to learn how to socialize prior to your mid 20s, especially for men. On the bright side, most men can socialize…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:39 AM
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I’m not talking about what women enjoy. You’re strawmanning now. No kidding women enjoy men paying for them so they don’t have to spend money, so would most people. But this isn’t about what women “prefer” it’s about what’s better overall, which whether you like it or not, includes men. It’s not just about cost, it’s about principle. If you’ve agreed to go on a date with someone then that’s that. Your time, effort, etc aren’t more valuable or quantifiable than there’s. It should be a mutual expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:29 AM
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We’re on reddit, and on PPD to top it off. This is already a highly contentious environment where people are acting impulsively and as reactionaries. Which is literally why I asked the women responding to my question to genuinely think about it rather than impulsively replying. Just because women on PPD reacted negatively to wtv dating problems you said men face, doesn’t mean women in totality, or overwhelmingly don’t care “whatsoever” about mens issues. Nor that you couldn’t get tons of women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:20 AM
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Most women won’t even agree with you that those men are on their level of attractiveness tbh. I assume it’s an ego thing. That or they’ll acknowledge it but not care and still go for much more attractive men, despite knowing that those men are more likely to just pump & dump them. Plenty of women on dating apps would really rather be used as a sex toy by a really attractive guy than actually give a chance to an average guy or even a bit above average guy. Dating apps give a lot of women the illu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:50 AM
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The difference in pay between men and women Isn’t nearly big enough generally to make these predispositions. You’re wrongly assuming that because men may make a bit more statistically that it’s 1. Enough to justify them paying for an entire meal, and 2. That ALL men must make more than ALL women. The only way that could fairly work is if you asked each other how much you’re paid, figured out your budgets, etc. Which is incredibly unrealistic. The easiest thing to do, is for EVERYONE to simply da…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:45 AM
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Honestly I just wanna congratulate you. This is like the most awareness I’ve ever seen from a woman regarding not only issues men can face when dating, but also issues that negatively contribute to the discourse overall. I’ve said it a billion times before but so many people contribute to things they so vehemently claim to detest. And I say this as a leftist who’s also a black man. Saying things like “all white people are ” or “kill all men” or “all women are _” literally does NOTHING. Absolutel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:34 AM
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I want you to really take a moment to think about what you just said. Do you genuinely think not a single woman on planet Earth cares about mens issues? Whether generally or dating specifically? That’s mostly rhetoric btw, we both know the answer. There ARE women who care about mens issues, BUT women are people. And people naturally care about things that effect them directly more. Just because you don’t see tons of women yelling daily about how men can have it bad when dating or in general, doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:14 AM
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I’m sure he’ll answer for himself specifically but generally in these cases it seems to be that younger women & women in general simply want more confident men. And confidence with women derives from experience with women. It’s a reason why younger girls will date older men, even if just slightly over. Because even if he isn’t actually more mature or confident, the age will give the illusion that he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:07 AM
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Yea. It’s really just a melting pot of people yelling that they go through the worse shit while not acknowledging that anyone else goes through shit. But even when they do acknowledge they’re still mad that they don’t agree with them on their entire world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:04 AM
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I knew I was gonna get one of these eventually, but it’s sad nonetheless. At least the other women who commented didn’t do so out of some impulsive spite. Quite frankly what you said has anything to do with what I asked. But your implication that the sole or primary reason men face issues regarding dating today is because they don’t treat women as equals, don’t have a personality, aren’t good people, etc is delusional, and undoubtedly self absorbed. You don’t even have to take my word for it. Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:01 AM
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I think this is a big reason why a lot of men find it frustrating when women ask for sympathy from them regarding dating struggles. Imagine getting rejecting constantly while making an effort to talk to women just to hear a woman complain about dating while having men interested in her (even if largely for sex). The grass is always greener on the other side. And for a man who feels invisible/undesirable to women, that sounds like paradise to him. Not saying it’s a good thing, but it’s an incredi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:14 AM
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Honestly I hate to even imagine the struggles dating as a guy who’s shy, awkward, introverted, etc. it’s actually a big reason why I even think men can have it so bad dating. Personally, I’ve been blessed with a good voice, conversational ability, and extroversion when needed. Granted, a lot came from experience. But especially for older guys it definitely sucks trying to garner that experience when outside of highschool/college. And I’m sure the weight of the expectation that they SHOULD alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:49 AM
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Tbh I think like with many issues like this “accountability” or chastising” isn’t even a necessity. I think all broad groups needs to do in order to distinguish themselves from the “extreme” or “bad” is to simply acknowledge that the extreme/bad exist & is a negative that shouldn’t exist. For example, If conservatives would simply acknowledge that some police killings are blatantly bad when they happen, liberals would be way less likely to see them as ontologically evil. They don’t even need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:32 AM
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Ha this kinda reminds me of a story my brother had from college. Don’t remember it verbatim but basically he held this door open for these 2 girls and one of them ended up yelling at him about how they don’t need him to open the door for them. This was back in 2019. Personally I open the door for anyone & everyone & haven’t had a problem, yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:13 AM
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It’s not the same. It’s only the same in the sense that women have that right. But the reasons behind those preferences/requirements are entirely different. Not sure why you’re even denying this when everyone’s already acknowledged you’re allowed to have the preference, regardless of how nebulas it may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:16 AM
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I think most men already accept that’s the reality. Despite them not being even remotely the same. There’s a reason you’ll hear women talk about how they never thought they’d date a “short” or “shorter” guy than them yet fall in love with one. But u never see men saying that about promiscuous women. Promiscuity is a CHOICE, and can actually reflect on a persons impulse control, values, commitment, etc. height is entirely biological and says literally nothing about a man. So while yes, you can ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:31 AM
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Sorry let me be more specific then. Respective to your looks and how much you demand commitment* matter as well. Also what do u mean by “lots”. You’re saying lots then listen very specific but also non specific things. And how do I know these men were even actually “ugly”? Or what being treated “absolutely terribly” means? This is all too vague and based on personal experience to give a solid response. But BROADLY speaking men who are good looking (respective to the girls looks), have options, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:32 PM
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Not really. There’s only 2 markers he really has to hit. Is he good looking And more importantly Does he talk like he has experience with women, and doesn’t really care all too much about where things go with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:53 PM
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In the US: 5’7-5’11 $40k-$60k a year 5/10 in the face (literally the definition of avg. most ppl in general just don’t wanna admit they’re a 5. Usually personal preference and subjectivity can raise a 5/10 to even an 8/10 depending on the girl). Not overweight but not really fit Not super confident, but not awkward either. Has a friend group of other men. Or at least some friends in general
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:28 AM
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Alright ima take my time to dissect all of this. But I’ll start of by saying as a general rule, height does matter, and it matters a lot. By “a lot” I mean respective to everything else that is valued in male partners, height is generally a very important variable in attractiveness. However, this does NOT mean that a short guy can’t get into a relationship, can’t be highly desired by women, etc. It just means that if you’re tall (6ft+) you have a massive advantage dating as a man. Just because s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:02 AM
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Because those women are delusional and relate their sexual value with their relationship value. I’ve had my experience fucking around and I can tell you these women whether by genuine ignorance or choosing not to get hurt believe that the above average men who fuck them would also date them. This inevitably leads to them rejecting average to below average men even for a whole relationship until MAYBE she’s much older and the guy is financially well off. Although many of these women will go as fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:13 PM
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Been saying this forever. But the nonsensical feminist response is just going to be “wHo cArEs wHat hApPEnS bEtWeEn 2 cOnSentInG adUlTs”. With that logic any communist, socialist, or just anti capitalist needs to immediately stfu. Because who cares if the market as a whole is essentially forcing you to take to this job? And that your employer has wayyy more leverage than you? You still consented!!!…. It’s funny as well because any time I’ve had conversations with women about this in person It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:10 PM
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Not sure tbh. I think I’m a unique case in how I just learned through experience & got a bit lucky. Cant recall the last time I ever asked another guy or anyone for that matter for dating advice. Although from what I’ve been told by others (without asking) it seems that women give absolutely dog shit unrealistic, non practical dating advice. But tend to have a good idea of what a woman would want while in a relationship already.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:22 AM
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No, they usually don’t lmao. As someone who works in healthcare MOST people in general who aren’t overweight aren’t “thin”. Also men tend to embody the extremes more than averages. The fact that more women are still obese and more men are overweight is just indicative that more men are actually in very good shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:21 PM
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Quite literally nothing there disproves anything I’ve said. Nor does it prove that there are more “thin” women than non overweight men. In fact it just proves what I’m saying more. There ARE more obese women than men. And DESPITE there being MORE men who are overweight, being “not overweight” doesn’t make you thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:17 PM
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Here’s some actual stats for u https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/women-overtake-men-in-u-s-obesity-rates/#app https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/11/13/455883665/cdc-more-women-than-men-are-obese-in-america-and-gap-is-widening
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:11 PM
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No, they literally don’t LMAOO funny how u keep bringing up stats when I’m the only one who’s shown actual statistics. Show these stats u keep persistently bringing up or shut up about them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:08 PM
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What are u talking about? We’re not talking about OP at this point & haven’t been for the last 5+ messages. WE are having a conversation, stop trying to deflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:07 PM
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They aren’t. Certainly not at younger age groups. You’re just making blanket statements at this point. There are far more non overweight men than there are THIN women, especially in gen z
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:04 PM
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No one said it’s underground. You’re literally arguing just to argue at this point lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:59 PM
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No shit, The whole point is about obesity, that’s the main issue. Not generally being overweight. And men and women carry body weight differently. A 170 lbs guy is likely going to be in better health than a 170 lbs girl. The younger generation as well we’re already seeing that women are more overweight than men on average, and the gap is widening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:45 PM
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No one said anything about thin being a deal breaker. You’re literally the only one here talking in certainties. You can get a girlfriend whether you’re skinny, jacked asf, athletic, etc. I’m simply stating the fact that gen z WOMEN & women in general prefer athletic lean built to athletic more muscular built men. You must be 14-16 still if most girls u know want guys who are built like the stick from bug life. And MOST girls aren’t even into K-pop. You’re letting your bubble form your entire wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:41 PM
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You’re just wrong. “The age-adjusted prevalence of severe obesity among U.S. adults was 9.2% in 2017–2018. Women had a higher prevalence of severe obesity (11.5%) than men (6.9%). The prevalence was highest among adults aged 40–59 (11.5%), followed by adults aged 20–39 (9.1%) and adults aged 60 and over (5.8%). “ And who said anything about being bulky? Or that going to the gym is a necessity? Body types aren’t some binary. There isn’t just “bulky” and “thin” MOST women prefer an athletic build …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:36 PM
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I must be going insane cause either u edited a comment or someone deleted one. But I’ll respond to what u said anyway. Who said anything about white women? Most black men that aren’t fat or are straight up in good shape are dating obese black women. Primarily since the majority of black women in the US are overweight, and most black men date black women. This isn’t a debate about LiVinG thEiR bEst lIvEs, Idc. I said “you can disagree this is an important factor” but you CANT disagree it’s a thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:32 PM
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As a 20 year old who is literally fit and not thin. I can tell you gen z girls love it. This notion that thin pretty boys are what most of these girls want isn’t true😂 At least not past the age of like 16
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:25 PM
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Then why claim average men are lucky to get a 1/10 woman? That’s simply false
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:23 PM
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His point isn’t that you can’t find some, you definitely can. His point is that a decent portion of fat women today actively think they deserve or simply want a guy who isn’t fat, which he sees as an issue (I’d assume because he dislikes that fat women feel that way when fat men are given shit for even thinking of talking to a skinny girl). And many skinny women know they’re more of a rarity (especially skinny white & black women) so they will shoot above their league. To make this easier to und…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:38 PM
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Then complain about fat men if you want? The difference is men don’t lie like women do. I’ve seen tons of women throughout my life shit on fat men just to pretend they’re more chill about it than men online. Not a single guy on here complaining about fat women is fat himself, and if one were then he should fuck off. Also more women are obese than men in America today. And with this MASSIVE push from gen z young men to go to the gym yet for gen z young women to embrace however tf they look, the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:24 PM
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Respectfully you’re missing his point still. He’s not saying that being fit is the sole important factor when it comes to exchanged value in a relationship. He’s simply stating the fact that if it were really equal then the guy wouldn’t be fit, that’s literally all. It doesn’t matter whether he’s “broke” or “short” or has a bad personality, etc. Why not date a fat, broke, short, bad personality guy then? This notion that only bottom of the barrel fit men are dating fat women in just entirely fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:19 PM
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Like ofc if you’re average looking, lack confidence, a bad conversationalist, don’t know how to dress, don’t have a good hairstyle for your face, have 0 ambition, bitter etc you’re not going to do well with women. But if you’re average looking, confident, good at conversation, dress well, fun to be around, etc you aren’t going to struggle finding women who would date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:03 PM
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I’m sorry to deliver the news isolation man but you’re not average if you’re getting a 1/10 girl once in a year while actually interacting with women on a consistent basis. But considering your name you either 1. Don’t interact with women typically, and or 2. Aren’t actually average
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:58 PM
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That’s a straw man. Easy access to sex IS a privilege for women but it’s not the sole privilege. Being pursued, having options, getting constant attention/validation, are all largely female privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:20 PM
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Maybe. Although personally I wouldn’t call lying nice. I’d never call someone ugly but I sure as hell am not gonna lie & say they’re cute. Can cause just as much if not more damage down the line
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:40 PM
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Maybe you do. But if men ever call you “cute” Idk. Unless lying is common place for “protecting feelings” over there. I’ve never called a girl cute I don’t genuinely think is cute. And most men don’t need a girl to be “sexy” to want to date or sleep with her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:30 PM
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There is absolute no way in HELL that a AVERAGE guy (5/10) is ignoring you (5/10 or 6/10 by your own admission). Either the guys AREN’T Average because you completely ignore actually average men, OR you’re not average. Women literally outnumber men, women literally have more options than the average man. “Average” men no matter WHERE you live don’t have the luxury to friend zone tons of average women. So unless there’s smth blatantly wrong with your personality that’s driving men away, or the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:25 PM
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Maybe try & work on yourself instead of looking for external validation. Especially for something as frivolous as men wanting to fuck. And even in Europe I’d bet you’re still going for a top % of men or men just straight up out of your league. There is absolutely 0 chance in hell that average men are ignoring you if you’re average. Put yourself out there & I’m sure you’ll find someone, especially if you’re LEGITIMATELY average in Europe. I.e. not overweight, average face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:18 PM
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Odd that you’d rather move somewhere where dating is not equal. Even as an unattractive, and or fat woman I’d hate to know that men settle. Or are just wanting to fuck. Cause while that’s an improvement for some average and definitely below average men, it’s definitely not an improvement for those women. I on the other hand would love to move to Europe as a guy. Women I’ve spoken to from there generally seem to be a bit less entitled. And at least the “average” over there isn’t riddled with chub…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:03 PM
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Well I never said anything about average so your point is irrelevant, I said short. In what regard? Just by virtue of you being European and me being American our experiences in dating are going to be WILDLY different. “Out of choice” is irrelevant to reality. Once again I can’t speak on wherever tf u live in Europe. But in America the general experience is NOT your average man having the ability to talk to multiple women at once, it’s women talking to multiple men. And the only reason you don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:44 PM
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5’9 & 5’10 isn’t short, it’s literally average (I’m 5’9). It says a lot that you mentioned average height instead of a legitimate short guy who’s like 5’5. Shows your disconnect with reality. Men aren’t bothered by the things women claim they are irl. Men will talk all day about body types & date a chick who is the complete opposite of what they describe. Meanwhile, some women will go to the grave just to hold onto their “standards” far above what they offer. Your anecdotal evidence isn’t realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:23 PM
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Lemme preface this by saying I’m not a redpiller. Does it not worry how women think? While I disagree with a lot of what they preach the entire reason they exist is to oppose shit modern movements & dating advice directed towards women. And the left (which I’m apart of) offers literally ZERO advice for these men other than basic “be confident” shit, so no wonder if they go looking all they’re going to find is the more “extreme” shit with little to no nuance. Do u feel just as worried when you he…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:44 AM
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That’s not some “brutal” realization. Also idk what fantasy you grew up in but I knew and I think most people knew from a very young age that girls care about looks. But even then girls still had more nuance than boys. A guy would just be attracted based on her looks (I know I was), meanwhile a girl would be attracted based on looks and the fact that he was the fastest in the class or good at soccer or some school subject etc. As for the height thing that’s not “brutal” either, it just is what i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:54 PM
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Well clearly you’ve proven not all women are like that. Anytime I’ve gone out with a female friend I’ve never had to pay for them. Even had 2 drive ME around before 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:47 PM
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Wdym who do they talk to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:46 PM
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Chatting with women doesn’t make you friends with them. And what about their conversations is “brutal”. You blackpillers will use that verbiage to describe literally anything so idk what to infer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:57 AM
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Literally some of the most prominent faces of it. Fresh and fit, Andrew Tate, Rich Cooper
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:23 AM
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Typically the most attractive girl possible with the least amount of ego and self absorption who will respect them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:36 PM
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Dude just say you hate women and move on. Women are not “generally less likable” as people. If anything they typically come off as more likable because they tend to be more agreeable. And it’s ironic how you’re trying to accuse me on being clouded by horniness when unlike your depraved self I don’t feel sexual attraction to every woman I talk to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:30 PM
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It’s only “insulting” to your ego if you feel insecure about your ability to attract women. That’s the entire reason you’re fine with it if you’re in a relationship. Because your insecurities about being inadequate or less masculine due to lacking a females constant romantic/sexual desire are plaguing your mind less. If you can deal with that insecurity while single you can 100% have female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:54 PM
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I figured. How do you meet these girls? Is it mostly parties or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:42 PM
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I believe you but this experience is just so different from mine and the plethora of women I’ve talked to. I need to know some details if you’re fine sharing. How old are you? What country do you live in? If it’s the US what state? What are the demographics of these women? Mostly white? Black? Asian? Do you live in the suburbs? Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:37 PM
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Definitely bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:16 PM
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I’d argue basing your life so stringently around sexual validation from women is what’s cringey
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:54 PM
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I don’t really consciously think about it. I have objectively pretty female friends, average, and like 2 who would be considered extremely good looking. So evidently it isn’t based solely on looks lol. I more so just let circumstance lead me places and accept that if it makes sense. Some girls things just turn sexual, others it turns to friendships, and others turn to relationship talk. Or maybe I’ll be looking for something specific at the time in which case she just so happens to be someone I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:52 PM
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What hobbies do you have? I will say an advantage I have is I enjoy talking and meeting new people in general. So even with 0 mutual interest I could probably strike up a good convo. One of my best female friends today I actually got into Star Wars and now she’s a massive fan and we have that to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:44 PM
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Wow I should’ve changed the post to “having women as friends is based unless ofc you don’t like socializing at all” thanks man who would’ve thought
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:38 PM
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You sound unhinged. But I’m gonna subject myself to the torture of replying to this crap anyway. Not a single one of my female friends is even “chubby” nor unattractive, all of them have been in relationships and have no issue getting into them. No, they definitely can more than 90% of the time. Simple, women are human beings, and can offer a broadly unique perspective in a friendship derived from their life experiences just like men can. But also specifically unique experiences when you realize…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:37 PM
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And I still prolly get more pussy than you LMAOO so I’ll continue to cry on my female friends shoulder if I ever so choose to 🤣cornballs flock to cornballs tho so continue eating that shit up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:29 AM
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It’s fantastic advice. Dudes a cornball
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 02:47 AM
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Because you project your reality onto others
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 02:46 AM
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Dude back in HS I knew like 3 guys who were 5’4 max and they were average at best look wise. Yet they were literally friends with multiple “popular” girls. If u wanna make some claim about who they’ll date FINE go ahead. But it’s straight up bs that most women won’t be FRIENDS with u If you’re average
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 02:46 AM
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Most girls I’m friends with aren’t what you guys would consider “Stacey’s”. Sure they’re all pretty but they’re also very unique people like myself. MAYBE they do divert from the norm but even then wouldn’t that still prove my point? That it’s rlly not that difficult to find girls who are just conceited and constantly talking about themselves? I’ve had plenty of girls just message me over the years asking how I’ve been doing. Also had plenty listen to me rant for hours without mentioning their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 02:18 AM
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I don’t see how that plays a role though. I mean yea my female friends know I’m chilling in that regard ig? But they didn’t when I met them LOL. And none of them want to sleep with me so
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 02:16 AM
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Hard for me to say honestly. I started getting attention from girls like 10th grade when I realized I could grow my hair out and get a decent haircut besides just cutting it low asl. Junior year it got much better cause I started to workout out. And I’ve been good since. But tbh even prior to that I “liked” women as friends and JUST as friends. Had 3 girls I was really close with in 9th grade and I had 0 interest in any of them as more than friends. 1 of them was kinda talking with my guy best f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 02:15 AM
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🤨are u ok bud
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:23 PM
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Wdym? Are you asking if I don’t bother with causal sex at all? Cause if so then no. But I’m definitely more picky about it than a lot of guys. I actually care about the enjoyment of sex, not just saying I had it with some hot chick. So I’ll look for more than just looks like vibes, chemistry, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:23 PM
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Girls I’m friends with I met through hs & college mostly. A few conversations just naturally led to friendship & I was chill with that. I’ve approached plenty of girls knowing I want either just sex or I see her as potential gf material. But I never befriend those girls. I make my intentions subtly or blatantly clear immediately, and if she isn’t showing mutual interest I just move on. I don’t befriend girls I’ve approached in a non platonic manner. As for the differences in how I decide I don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:21 PM
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Dude what 😭 stop projecting your insecurities & anger onto me. I’m literally chilling rn walking my dog. I can point out how the shit u say is dumb asl, & how you’re dumb asl, while chilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:14 PM
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Fighting is the most dumb fuck shit you could ever bring up. Most people aren’t getting in fights their ENTIRE lives. The idea that u should base your relationships even SLIGHTLY on who can help u in a fight is beyond brain dead. And if you think someone wanting emotional support makes them a clown you’re even dumber than I thought
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:56 PM
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Ahh well that’s pretty understandable when you’re really a GROWN GROWN ass adult and married I’d say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:52 PM
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I wonder how much of it is biological and how much of it is environmental/social. Curious cause I wanna know if I’m mostly just some weirdo biologically or I jus grew up different 🤣I’d like to think a lot of it is environmental and social though. I have a high libido, love sex, etc. I just don’t think that’s the only purpose women in my life serve
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:51 PM
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I have a pretty varied range of girls as friends. Ones straight and atheist, another is bi and asexual, another is just bi, another is Muslim, another is Muslim and a hijabi, etc. One loves video games, one hates them, one reads a ton, one hates hook up culture, another partakes, etc etc. Also idk if they were really friends if you ended up having sex with them. At least I wouldn’t consider those girls friends. Unless you were literally platonic for MONTHS And you guys ended up turning it sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:49 PM
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What’s that have to do with having women as friends tho🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:46 PM
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At the end of the day it’s really same reasons you’d be friends with a dude. But somehow that’s really hard for people to grasp or they feel it’s impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:42 PM
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Personally, I’m not obsessed with fucking women on the daily, nor do I think most men are. And I’m not talking about necessarily going out with girls platonically or even texting constantly. I just mean having good conversations here and there can always be enjoyable, just like with male friends. If you have to go out of your way to do that, don’t do it ig. Personally I don’t have to put any “work” into friendships with women, just like I don’t with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:39 PM
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How’d it change for you personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:36 PM
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Not sure about personality wise, but I definitely look masculine, solid jawline, big arms, in good shape. I’m naturally assertive, deep voice, play soccer, did taekwando, kickboxing, etc. Idk why the hell you’re framing this as some binary. You can have Male AND female friends, I have tons of both. My best friend is a guy 😂. And who tf cares if a girl isn’t gonna help me in a fight? U shouldn’t be looking for fights anyway. That’s like saying because your disabled male friend can’t help u in a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:28 PM
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Jesus Christ dude please use periods 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:17 PM
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Women don’t see the value in being friends with plenty of men? You think it’s women that don’t see the value in being friends with the opposite sex? You’re literally contradicting yourself. Supposedly they don’t reciprocate but also don’t see the value? If they weren’t reciprocating it would imply they ARE getting value & seeing value in men while not returning it to them. No, they wouldn’t 💀 I think you’re just using your sole personal experience in a bubble and applying that to everyone. All y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:13 PM
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Maybe I’m insane but I really don’t think most men are just BIOLOGICALLY these sex hungry animals that these guys will make us all out to be 😂I don’t think it’s just some “inevitability” that a guy who’s down on his luck no matter what ABSOLUTELY will want to fuck any girl he finds pretty. Call me crazy but I don’t believe it, I think there’s major societal conditioning and pressure put on men at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:02 PM
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It wouldn’t make them outliers. But you clearly have a monolithic view of women so no point even trying to contend there You’re joking right??? Have you seen a single mainstream red pill channel LMAOOO these dudes teach men to cultivate their ENTIRE EXISTENCE around PUSSY and the GOD that it is to them. They will simultaneously hate women while making them the centerpiece of their existence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:00 PM
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Dude wtf are you talking about? Like I genuinely don’t know what point you’re even trying to make
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:58 PM
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Then don’t be friends with women who don’t equally contribute to the friendship, it’s not complicated. I’m not friends with girls just cause they’re girls. I’m friends with girls who are dope people. Because shocker, women can be great people and friends just like men can. This framing that ALL women just wanna take from friendships with men without giving in return is beyond insane. Especially considering how many women essentially end up being therapist for male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:57 PM
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I think it really comes down to how much of men being horn dogs comes down to biology & how much of it is societal/environmental. Personally I think most guys don’t ACTUALLY give as much of a fuck about sex as they think they do. Especially when they talk about it in a way that has nothing to do with the PLEASURE, but about how hot the girl was/is or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:54 PM
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I think tons of men would share my view if it wasn’t for the societal pressure around men having casual sex with attractive women for the sole purpose of masculine expression rather than pleasure. And most girls I’m friends with are admittedly conventionally pretty. But that’s not enough to make me want to sleep with them. Girls I’m friends with would prolly say I’m a conventionally attractive guy as well. So what tho? Are you seriously sexually attracted to ANY girl that’s pretty? I don’t think…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:52 PM
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Stop watching Andrew Tate dude. It was my female friends who spent hours talking to me over 2 years ago when my ex & I broke up. Giving me advice, providing emotional support, etc. Plenty of women will have your back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:36 PM
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I mean I’m definitely above average but I wouldn’t say I’m “extremely attractive”. I’m just chill, not a creep, extremely easy to talk to, fairly extroverted, and good at communication
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:33 PM
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This is such redpill bullshit. Most girls I’m really good friends with NEVER bring up their personal issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:33 PM
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“Incorrect” bud If you think there aren’t any women on planet earth who offer unique friendships you can’t get from other men then you’re too lost in the sauce. “Only feel validated from female validation” So you mean MOST men who are red pill, incels, on this subreddit, MGTOW, and in general??? “50 better feelings” are you actually this stupid or being willfully ignorant? Ever heard of hyperbole? sorry women do nothing but use you ig😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:32 PM
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Gonna be honest this just seems so semantic at this point idek what to engage with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:24 PM
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It’s slang. Basically means it’s “good”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:12 PM
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Ig. But I think I made that obvious in my post by saying (with TRUE friendships). And even said not to expect sex or a relationship. It’s incredibly easy to not be an orbiter as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:03 PM
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There’s a difference between your broad attraction an entire sex & your attraction to an individual. I completely reject this idea that u have absolutely 0 self agency in who tf you develop feelings for. Especially when you’re conscious of all the factors that go into a relationship. It becomes very easy not simply see a pretty girl & fall for her or fall for the first chick that gives you the time of day
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:02 PM
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Because I didn’t have options at some point, and possessing the same mindset is what got me to have options. Women like men who have standards and want to live up to those standards. Most men make the mistake of thinking women need to know you have options when in reality they just need to know you wouldn’t date ANY girl. A lack of options doesn’t mean u abandon self respect and accept anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:01 PM
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I think I’m very practically about my attraction to people. Like I haven’t spent more than a week on a girl who isn’t showing mutual interest in nearly 2 years now. The way operate (whether intentionally or by chance) is I don’t even “catch feelings” until I know there’s mutual interest and potential for something more. I tend to look for disqualifying factors in women rather than qualifying. And a big disqualifying factor for me personally is her not being mutually interested in me as I am in h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:58 PM
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I mean I do have a younger sister 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:53 PM
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Idk if it’s your wording but I’m confused with what you’re trying to say. If you’re saying you shouldn’t hang out alone with opposite sex friends while in relationships then that’s a fine & common boundary to set if you want. Seems like common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:36 PM
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I think you’re completely misinterpreting what I’m saying. Women just naturally tend to back women a lot. So a woman agreeing and siding with you and providing YOU that emotional support shows that 1. She genuinely thinks you’re in the right, and 2. It’s a fr friendship that supersedes gendered biases
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:35 PM
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This just seems like highschool shit to me. Maybe I’m the outlier and more in control with my emotions than most men. But I’ve been friends with girls with YEARS and had 0 desire to be anything more. Maybe comes from experience. But I’ll never pursue a girl who’s shown 0 interest in me or like a girl who I’m friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:33 PM
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Been in 3 of these friendships throughout them being in relationships for years, same with me being in relationships. That’s simply untrue for every woman and every man. Then again I’m a unique guy. I put women in categories similar to the way women put men. I decide very quickly whether or not I’d just sleep with a girl, just be friends with her, or if she’s gf material, and I keep them there. I have 0 desire to sleep with my female friends or date them cause why would I need to? I have options…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:31 PM
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My female friends know I get pussy if I want. I don’t expect sex or a relationship from any of them😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:28 PM
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Get in shape, find a hairstyle that fits you well, get a haircut like every 2-4 weeks MAX (even if not lowering the top a lot), maintain hygiene (brush teeth, wash face, shower, wear deodorant, cologne, etc), & learn to talk through experience. Most important thing for a man in dating is experience. You’ll learn not only how to talk to women & what they generally like but most importantly what YOU like. Be confident, be funny, be chill, learn to lead conversations but also listen, be passionate …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:56 PM
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Around my age (20) depending on the girl it’ll be some mix of napping, college work, watching Netflix, working some part time job, eating snacks, shopping, spending time with friends/family, social media, clubbing, traveling, gym. Older married women it’s usually more shopping, cooking, cleaning, working, time with family (specifically kids), watching tv/netflix, listening to same 80s-90s music on repeat, maybe some short of consistent workout but rarely the gym, and constantly on the phone with…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:28 PM
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Not exactly sure what average is at this point tbh. But I’m 5’8, smell good, wash my face, trim my facial hair, am in great shape, enjoy talking to people in general, have high self esteem, listen, & can talk about practically anything. And the only thing stopping me from being in a relationship at this point is honestly myself. Just haven’t found someone that meets my standards personality wise. Although I do think women underestimate greatly how hard it can be for men to get to the point where…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:56 PM
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Dude, no it isn’t 😂 at least not to any MEANINGFUL degree. Complimenting some woman you don’t even know maybe. But with LEGITIMATE catcalling the reaction isn’t going to vary based on whether you look like big Ed or a more attractive guy. Also the likelihood of rape isn’t relevant. If my sole options were being lonely or being randomly cat called by random men who CAN pose a threat I’d much rather take the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:33 PM
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So what’s your point then? That men are stupid and women aren’t? Relationships are hard, anyone smart enough would realize that simple interest isn’t enough. I’ve talked to plenty of girls I’ve thought were somewhat interesting, pretty, etc but cut it off early due to differences in values, future goals, not finding her intellectually stimulating, not finding her funny or entertaining, and so on. ironically enough if guys would worry more about “do I like her” rather than “does she like me” (lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:17 PM
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That’s largely subjective personal experience, grass is always greener on the other side. But get out of your emotional state for 1 second and GENUINELY rethink what you just said. You actually this being HARASSED by people physically stronger than you with the capability to react threateningly is somehow better than being “invisible for life”? Your point would of gotten across perfectly fine if you simply said “having a decent portion of shit options is better than having no options”, in which …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:13 PM
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Wtf are you talking about. Does it look like I’m asking women for dating advice? I just verbatim said wtf men need to do. I don’t need womens advice on dating, nor do most men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:08 PM
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This is just patently false…where do you guys come up with this stuff? For someone who says they don’t like generalizing that was a pretty baseless generalization LOL. For starters this just doesn’t bore out with statistics. Most families today have both parents working because men can’t afford to solely. Also why would a woman ever want to be FULLY reliant on a man? If your claim is that some women just want to be housewives that would be true. But even then they’d still have a role and respons…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:04 AM
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They just want women to genuinely value things that they value…it’s that simple, but extremely unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:07 PM
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Men care about looks more. Women are pickier about looks. It’s that simple. What I mean by this is sure, maybe men care 90% and women 80% (random numbers). But the difference is that men aren’t nearly as picky. Men consider a much larger portion of women to be pretty enough to date. And with womens standards getting high and higher mens have gotten lower and lower (settling). Sure, some may be more outwardly vocal about womens appearances than vice versa, but that’s for a number of societal and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:28 AM
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there's probably no greater privilege than being a pretty, financially well-off white girl in a first-world country.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:50 PM
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Exactly. This seems to be the issue with dating In America specifically. At least in Europe the average girls or even slightly below average girls that men are "settling" for tend to be in decent shape. But in America going average and definitely below average means, you're likely getting some overweight chick. Because skinny/non-fat girls with a decent/average face know they aren't as common in the US as in practically any other country like Germany, France, the Philippines, Brazil, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:59 PM
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Use your brain a little bit. Obviously he means single women are giving their attention to the guys who only want them for sex. We see time and time again that women will essentially set a “looks quota” for men not caring about how often that correlates with behavior. I’m not saying it’s always true, but “men are only as loyal as the options” has a fuck ton of validity to it. If you keep chasing the good looking, tall, etc wtv man then keep getting shocked or upset when that man has options you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:57 PM
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It’s insane how much gas lighting occurs around these topics. Women will yell up and down about how this ain’t true then turn around and pursue a guy who they aren’t sure is committed or into them time and time again (ik cause how often I’m that guy). I think this issue comes from incels damaging the discourse though. So much so to where even the mention of women commonly engaging in a non socially acceptable behavior is seen as some insane statement that must not be true for women to be seen as…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:48 PM
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I said "amazing, beautifully written, and thought-provoking", but I never said anything about being "deep". And even if I had, It's a general statement. I'm not sure what stick is so far up your ass but settle down a bit. I'm not a huge fan of death note myself. But the point stands that not all anime are about big-boob women doing shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:53 PM
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Tbh when it comes to women I usually separate "average" and "average pretty". There is such an insane abundance of pretty women in the world (at least to most men) that I've learned to give pretty its own average. Genuine average is probably like decent body proportions may be some chub. Usually around like 5'4. Jenna Fischer would be a good example. "average pretty" is usually good body proportions nothing crazy but some booty, some titty. Hair is probably decently done and not utterly damaged.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:50 PM
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This is the most childish view of anime and manga I've ever heard. Plenty of anime and manga are amazing, beautifully written, and thought-provoking stories that have nothing to do with the sexualization of women. FMAB, Parasyte the Maxim, To Your Eternity, Your lie in April, Death Note, Monster, Attack on Titan, Haikyuu, Cowboy Bebop, Akira, Berserk, 91 days, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:35 PM
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Yes. But mostly only for looks and status. If you meet a woman's look quota you can genuinely get away with a LOT (I speak from experience). Obviously, I'm speaking broadly. But if you're the "best" or one of the best that a woman thinks she can get she will tolerate a lot. It's why you have women openly admitting online that they'd rather date a tall guy or a handsome guy if they "know they're going to be treated poorly". When in reality it's just a self-fulfilling prophecy by dating the same t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:21 PM
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Yea, no lmao. No one is saying that's ALL you need to maintain a relationship. But the whole point is the initial attraction which opens you up to more options. It's not a negative thing in any capacity. Whether you're just looking for sex or a committed relationship.
/r/MensRights04/06/22 02:01 AM
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This is a motte and Bailey. You first say “men who believe women are” which is a perfectly normal belief. Considering all men know there are certainly some women out there who would want them solely or largely for financial reasons. Yet you then say “if you believe that every woman”….no one believes that? Even the most pseudo intellectual red pillers would say that there’s women out there who don’t solely or largely want you for your money. TLDR though this entire rant is purely tangential and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:37 AM
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Ahh I mean you could be right. I’m not too sure. I’m my high self esteem confident self regardless of if I have 5 or 1 girl talking to me. Although most chicks I talk to seem to ASSUME I’m talking to multiple women and be in extreme disbelief when I say otherwise
/r/MensRights03/06/22 05:36 AM
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Eh idk about the best way. But it’s certainty a consistent way. Women like valuable men. And valued things in general mean they’re not easily obtainable and in high demand. I’ve never had more women attracted to me than when they’re aware other women are attracted to me. And that tells them that you don’t “Need” them.
/r/MensRights03/06/22 03:39 AM
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Do you people even go outside💀 if men were just picking based on looks and the ability to maintain a house I don’t mean to be the bearer of bad news but a lot of you wouldn’t be alive LMAOO. Same if women were just looking for tall men or men who will be great financial providers for a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:53 PM
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honestly idek. I have great hygiene but I've met men and women with not-so-good hygiene. Most commonly though is typically men who have smelly armpits or women who have bad breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:46 AM
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This is an exception. And honestly, for most men, it's not good for their mental health to go with this or think about this 5% possibility of her "being nervous" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:14 AM
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Jesus Christ . I didn’t realize how many psychopaths were still vehemently defending heard until I checked Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:49 AM
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Entire worthless family in cash, * keep blathering. Come on cuck you were doing so well for a min there! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:24 AM
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Awww you’re speaking coherent English with proper grammar now!! 🥹 good wittle cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:19 AM
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Im trying really hard to take you seriously but your name is literally cuck and you sound like you’re thriving on half a brain cell and 5 grams of cocaine. Sorry I hurt ur feelings tho bud cheer up. I’m sure you’ll be admitted eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:13 AM
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Bud I’m sorry my brain isn’t wired to understand your coked up schizo driven verbiage but I can promise you I’m not alone in that 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:02 AM
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Are you schizophrenic too cause how tf are u keeping up with any of what he’s saying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:55 AM
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Yea I’m deadass confused cause the first part talks about people being upset with modernity (modern society?) but then the second part talks about eschewing gender (avoiding gender?) and how it’s only for the “elite”? Then the 3rd randomly talks about normies using “democracy” (values and who we are apparently) to undermine symbols of modernity? Which is apparently abortion? Then the 4th randomly talks about going too far with im assuming undermining symbols of modernity???? And some random shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:52 AM
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Is this a schizo post? I’m so confused. Maybe it’s the 3 am brain but what
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:34 AM
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This is dumb asl. People don’t have access to “8 blillion people in the world”. And most people can’t just get up and move. They could be attracted to solely men or women, date within a specific age group, have basic needs that people don’t meet, have basic wants that are difficult to find, etc. And the fact that we have “more access to options than every before” is an issue in of itself. Lots of people are looking for something perceived as better instead of trying to make something work, when …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:53 PM
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Promiscuity in people in general but especially in women tends to be very highly linked to tons of behavior and emotional issues. I've dealt with plenty of women in my life casually, romantically, and platonically. And I genuinely cannot think of one time when a girl who frequently engaged in casual sex or was quick to engage in sexual behavior wasn't either deeply insecure, anxious, depressed, lonely, seeking validation, has a bad relationship with her father, etc. Either 1 or a mix of them. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:52 PM
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It's not a "benefit" for men exclusively though. It's a benefit and a disadvantage for BOTH men and women. It's a benefit for ALL women in the sense that you can easily have sex and get your rocks off with even above average men damn near regardless of how you look. And it's a disadvantage for women because you're far more likely to be judged for sexual promiscuity. It's a benefit for above-average attractive men because they can have all the sex they want with little to no judgment generally an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:37 PM
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I've never seen that before lmao but ig it could happen in countries where the average height is taller and the woman is taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:41 PM
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No one is talking about just physical attraction. We're talking about overall health.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:42 PM
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You must be a virgin (nothing wrong just saying). Anyone who's had sex and enjoyed sex knows that "good sex" isn't about how someone looks. The dude could be a 5 and working at McDonald's and could still fuck better than some 8. In the same way that a girl could be a whole ass model, act very sexual, yet give a horrible blow job, have low stamina, be unenthusiastic, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:31 PM
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Honestly it’s too difficult to have these conversations without knowing how everyone looks lmao. Or knowing where they live (country, state, city), or the type of environment they’re in (school, work) your average white guy will have a vastly different experience in say California vs West Virginia vs the Philippines. In the same way that your average Asian guy is gonna have a very different experience in Seattle vs Houston vs Russia. Generalizations hold truth but a lot of it can be unique to sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:22 PM
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I think the difference lies in the fact that most women consider it “settling” when the guy isn’t insanely attractive and decently wealthy. Meanwhile most men consider it settling simply when she’s fat. I’m a unique person so I feel sympathy still. But honestly how tf can you blame the average guy for not feeling any sympathy for some fat girl who’s “the last option” when they’re the “last option” and not even fat?? It’s ironic cause you’ll hear girls sometimes talk about how they’re offended by…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:02 PM
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Are you schizophrenic? I’m actually confused what you’re talking about. Go outside and talk to women. You’re going to find women who will talk to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:40 AM
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Wtf are you talking about? I can't drag you outside and make you talk to women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:17 AM
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That's not enough information. Both autism and dyspraxia affect people to varying degrees. And I don't even know what you've tried already to deal with these things. But honestly, I wouldn't expect you to tell me all your personal shit on Reddit. This is why I think you need to consider options like seeking therapy, talking to a health professional, opening up to family or friends about this, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:40 PM
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Ngl I deadass don't think I have either LMAO. Either because she's just in denial, hasn't been in many, and is actually not a crap person, or she consistently dates shittier men than even herself who supposedly cheat.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 11:37 PM
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No normal human brain comes to these conclusions. If someone is genuinely at that level of bitterness and resentment it's not some typical or logical or unavoidable conclusion, they need to get psychiatric help. Seek out a therapist. Idc what the situation is physically or mentally you can still live a fulfilling life. And you 100% can have a social life. No one has been treated SO POORLY by society to where that kind of thinking and behavior is justifiable. Can it be understandable? yes. But th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:29 PM
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Dude this is far too a specific topic to be having generalizations about. HOW are you clumsy? HOW are "socially and physically awkward", and WHAT "functional motor skills" are you lacking? A lot of the time people will downplay the challenges that others are facing. But a lot of the time we will also OVERPLAY the challenges we're facing. I'm not trying to invalidate your experiences but the fact that I've seen men who are 5'7 saying their height is why they can't find a single girl who will give…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:41 PM
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First off I didn't even reply to you I replied to a reply to your comment. Second, the "world of men and women" is the same shit. Damn near NO WOMAN cares how OTHER MEN THINK OF YOU. They care how OTHER WOMEN think of you. Even at 20 now it's the same shit. Men are hated all the time in the public eye by other men and women STILL date them. There's a reason girls will listen more to their girlfriends than they will guys. Women care about social validation from other women, not from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:38 PM
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All of this is situational and generalized. The idea that all women are very passive is just false. Most people when initially meeting them are more "passive". Plenty of women have out there personalities and are very extraverted. Even if you've approached 15 women who haven't been like that it's not enough to just say "fuck it". And regardless of what you may believe MOST men who are doing well with women are able to maintain a friendship with a girl. Or at the very LEAST able to have casual co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:43 PM
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This is such an insanely specific situation. I've known non-neurotypical people who don't do any of that. And even if you do the idea that you can't work on things like that is untrue. I'm not saying it's gonna be easy. I'm sure it's going to be much harder than if you were neurotypical, but it's certainly possible. And there are plenty of resources out there to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:34 PM
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This is just dumb. I've known plenty of ugly, short, AND skinny/fat dudes who were talking to plenty of women. I'm not saying they're going to want to fuck you or date you. But I can PROMISE that plenty of women will be open to simply TALK with you as long as you're chill, not creepy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:31 PM
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You can repeat that 50 times over its not becoming any more true. It isn’t and it won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:55 AM
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Bud can you read? It’s like you’re schizo posting. OP isn’t asking how to function IN a relationship. He’s asking how to make it so that he can ATTRACT women to actually get in a relationship. Being not immature, not close-minded, not childish, and not disrespect is not practical advice that’s going to help him garner initial attraction from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:50 AM
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Yea that’s good general advice. For me it’s pretty contextual. I’ve had girls who I’ve been “rejected” by but by keeping my distance yet staying my friendly/confident self whenever we do interact they develop interest. Although others I’ll just become friends with or not bother with at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:40 AM
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Well, that's different then. Hence why I said, "who you still have interest in". If you have none though or intentionally friend zone then I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:26 AM
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I think it’s an issue when any negative behavior from a man happens men are told to hold all other men accountable. Yet when an issue about a woman comes up it’s always “sHEs nOt a wOmAn” sHeS meNTalLy iLl”. Hold women accountable too, or hold no one. No kidding men should try to stay away from those women just like women should try to stay away from shitty men. But start telling women to not engage in shit like that in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:08 AM
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Agree with everything except “be their friend” there’s a certain way u act with women who you still have interest in but got “rejected by”. Which is by being friendly, but not a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:59 PM
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Women really don’t seem to understand this. Men don’t need positive opinions of other men or to change other men for women to want them. Back in HS when I started getting female attention I had some male peers who started viewing me negatively or assuming I was a fuckboy. But not because they genuinely hated fuckboys or guys getting girls just because they hated that they weren’t the ones. Meanwhile not a single girl seemed bothered by others mens perceptions of me. Hell, I found out that an ex …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:37 PM
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You’re literally proving my point dip shit. The fact that women are still so selective with such a large pool of men shows how much more picky they are. Men don’t swipe on more women because there’s less. They swipe on more women because they aren’t as picky or as shallow about looks or how a picture is taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:10 AM
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Bud idgaf about some OkCupid study from 2009. Every modern study covering the most used dating apps like tinder and bumble shows women are far pickier than men when it comes to not only looks but actually swiping on men. They show men will swipe on anywhere from 40-50% of women generally while women will swipe on anywhere from 5-15% of men generally. Also even in the study that YOU linked, it noted that "higher rated" men received 11 times as many messages from women as those on the lower end of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:52 AM
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Based on what? Not a single study supports what you just said
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:21 AM
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Not sure tbh. I mean my grandfather was a Nigerian immigrant and did fine so I don’t think being African will necessarily be some significant disadvantage or advantage. Could just depend on the type of woman you’re dealing with and how well cultural differences mesh together
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:44 PM
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Most guys maybe. This is why when I give people advice I try to differentiate between my life and the general population. I’ve come to realize I’m a fairly unique individual lmao. I genuinely don’t have any racial preferences. And I’d much rather not be with someone who’s gonna fetishize me or say the n word more than I do 🤣. And unlike most ppl on dating apps anyway I’m not really into hoopkup culture or partying, or drugs etc which it seems a lot of people are. Only reason I’ve even used em on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:26 PM
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Could be true. Although I’ve never seen a black man in my life put down a black woman (unironically I literally never have in real life). My dad despite solely dating black women ended up with my mom who’s Colombian. And a lot of black women in his life did NOT take kindly to my mom. His own mom didn’t like mine for awhile. And then his brothers wife was very jealous of my mom for a long time. Even online I just don’t see many black men complain about black women dating out unless it’s like lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:16 PM
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I honestly think you’re doing good for the situation your in and the stuff you’ve experienced. I think speaking about the black community specifically that black men and women have tons of shit that needs to be worked out lol. I think the black men and women that don’t fit into certain stereotypes of what a black person is or has to be often get left out of dating. Then people have the audacity to be surprised whenever a black man or woman ends up with a non black person. Personally, regardless …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:38 AM
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Sorry to hear that man. Must be difficult being a minority in general in a more homogenous country but especially an Asian man when Asian men are often stereotyped negatively when it comes to sexual/romantic appeal. Idk you personally but just general advice I’d say to maybe think about how you’re engaging with those women. Often times men make the mistake of thinking women view relationships in the same way as men when they don’t. Most women will put you and keep you in a “friend category” if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:15 AM
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Tbh I can’t comment too much on black women as most other black people in my life have been men. At my HS there were NOT many black women and the black women that were in my grade were mostly the unapproachable and wouldn’t talk to a male unless spoken to type. Although it could be the social stereotypes that made them less likely to want to open up in the first place. Then again one of them was also like 6ft and wouldn’t want to date anyone shorter so needless to say her options were incredibly…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:07 AM
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Dating apps aren’t a representation of real life, for anyone, not just Asian men. I have a 5’6 Asian friend who’s average looking and in CS. He got 0 attention in HS yet broadened his social skills and got into a couple social circles in college. Hit the gym, brought up his confidence, and slept with a couple girls in college, one of which I know was Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:55 AM
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I think black men do statistically tend to get laid slightly more. But I think that would generally remain the case even if stereotypes were gone due to the dating culture of “game” being so prevalent in the black community. I don’t think this is all black women but in my experience it can be a decent portion that expect black men to be essentially super man in a relationship while giving leeway to non black men if they’re into them. Black women who solely date black men tend to be the pickiest …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:51 AM
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I definitely think it’s true. It’s kinda sad that it took K-pop and kdramas but I’m glad for Asian men. I have an Asian friend who’s like 5’6 and by absolutely no means looks like some attractive Korean. But he went from getting 0 attention in HS to working out, building confidence, and sleeping with a couple girls in college. Still the same 5’6 average Asian guy. Just in good shape, confident, and more social.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:43 AM
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If it makes you any happier all the Asian women I knew back in HS are with Asian men besides 1 who literally has dated an Indian guy, black guy, Turkish guy, etc. and one of the girls is VERY pretty while her bf isn’t very good looking (they play valorant together a ton). My point is just keep in mind that most Asian men and women marry each other at the end of the day. And plenty of Asian girls aren’t seeing Asian men as unworthy of a casual relationship either. Or even engaging in many casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:41 AM
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It’s honestly just a cycle. Im gonna generalize a bit here but I think a lot of asian men living in the west are just used to very little to no attention. And it typically takes a man getting attention from women (at least at younger teen ages) for him to start putting effort into his appearance, and to learn how to even properly act with a girl. I think the kind of Asian guys you’re dealing with are probably still dealing with their own insecurities and are projecting them onto you. Black women…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:33 AM
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Bud, I’m sorry no one wants to fuck you but saying you’re not a virgin isn’t “bragging about your sex life” under any capacity. Not a single normal human being would consider that “bragging”. Bragging means “excessively proud and boastful talk about one's achievements or possessions.” Not a single thing I’ve said has been “excessively proud” or “boastful”. It’s all been matter of fact and informative. Nor have I “screamed at anyone” that I’m attractive 😂 you just seem incredibly insecure and tri…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:27 PM
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Dude what? Telling you I’ve been in relationships and am currently talking to someone is “bragging about my sex life” LMAOOOOOO fuck you’re actually insane. Goodnight
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:54 AM
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“Hits close to home” I’m literally not a virgin but thanks for the pseudo analysis. And you literally said “civil society would view your comments as the ramblings of an outcast incel” literally no one would say that unless implying even slightly that persons an incel. You’re just bitching out of it now 😂& you can reject it all you want, it’s still true. I don’t have a “victim complex” either. Are you just throwing out every term your last brain cell can come up with now? I talk about these thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:11 AM
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I know you’re illiterate but I’ve literally said the word “generally” at least 3 times by now. Not once have I said ALL women have it easier than men or ALL men have it harder than women or that women don’t face challenges unique to dating. And don’t be an idiot. And you didn’t bring up “incel” without making the implication, you don’t need to blatantly say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:29 AM
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“General fear” says nothing about what’s a legitimate concern. And no, they wouldn’t. Nothing I’ve said is even remotely indicative of inceldom. Although everything you’ve said is indicative of having an extreme bias against men. But that’s how these conversations typically go on purplepilldebate anyway. Get backed into a corner with 0 arguments of substance to be made and fall back on “wel- well you’re just an incel!”. I’m literally following incel tears and argue with incels with this same pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:42 AM
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So not only are you mentally ill but you're trying to gaslight now. I quote: "So many things men don’t have to worry about when dating: sexual harassment, rape, pregnancy, a majority of STIs, birth control, being lied to and used, stalking, etc" You blatantly said men do not have to worry about rape or sexual harassment. Verbatim that is what you said. And women do not have to worry about those things to a "much larger extent* than men". And I have multiple female friends I love who aren't deran…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:23 AM
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Actually what the fuck are you talking about? You are genuinely incapable of reading. When did I say ANYTHING about fat women in that entire word block? PLEASE point it out I'll literally wait for you. The idea that men don't have to worry about sexual harassment, rape, birth control, being lied to and used, stalked, pregnancy, STIs (whether its a majority or NOT) etc, when it comes to dating IS INSANE. YOU ARE LITERALLY DERANGED. like PLEASE seek mental help. Idk what man shat in fucking corn f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:56 AM
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Not once have I said only 20% of men date, no one ever says that. Ugly men can get into relationships as well. When I talk about a small group of men in dating I'm talking about it in the context of attractiveness. Like being considered an 8 on the looks scale. At the very least men would consider 40% of women to be attractive or "attractive enough" to date. But women will see VERY few men in the same way. This isn't to say they wouldn't ever date other men that aren't in that top percentile. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:40 AM
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WHERE TF DO YOU LIVE???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:58 AM
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He doesn't dress well especially for his age (in my opinion) but he's still good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:54 AM
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First relationship at 15 was with this girl (same age) who had been in like 5 relationships already (didn’t think much of it at the time). She cheated on me a month into it with an ex and my dumbass told her I needed a “break” for a bit. She respected that in the moment then turned around and told everyone in the school that I “only wanted her for sex” and that she was the one who ended things😂 funny thing was we had never even kissed. She offered to send me nudes once which I denied and would r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:55 PM
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And I already said it’s cool if that’s what YOU think. But clearly that has 0 bearing on what women think. You just sound spiteful and insecure. He’s an objectively good looking man. He can not be your preference and that’s fine (personally I’m not into men at all so idgaf) but that doesn’t change how by conventional standards MOST women would say he’s very good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:50 PM
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Bud what….idc if hasan gets pussy or not? But you evidently seem to have some personal hatred for the guy so we can just leave it at that lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:30 PM
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I never said I was surprised about it. I’m saying being a leftist benefits you more in dating than being right wing regardless of the woman’s political ideology (at least as a man). Also you can have your personal preferences about hasan all you want, I’m not a fan of him myself. But it doesn’t change the fact that dude is objectively good looking, wealthy, and 6’4. Women simp for him all the time. So regardless of mine or your opinion he’s evidently doing fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:25 PM
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I already do see what it's like from their perspective. People like yourself do this really weird thing where you assume the only way someone can acknowledge your problems or issues is if they say they're as prevalent or as common as their own. I can acknowledge women have issues when it comes to dating whilst simultaneously stating the fact that men generally face far more. In the same way, I can acknowledge that I, as an American have issues without pretending it's of equal weight to your aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:47 PM
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Yes, it fucking does. Because having options when it comes to romance or sex is practical and actually common in dating. Overwhelmingly most women who go on dates are not "raped or murdered". You're going for an insane extreme and trying to use it to pretend women generally have it harder with dating, THEY DON'T.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:34 PM
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They do though. I don’t treat unattractive women who talk to me like shit. Nor say they shouldn’t talk to me. I solely have an issue if they feel entitled to a man like men and display hypocrisy about “standards”. Most men would agree with this. But tons of women will blatantly put in dating profiles shit like “look at yourself then look at me and decide if you should bother messaging”. Do you know how ugly that shit is? Stop pretending men and women are equally cruel when it comes to dating, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:18 PM
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Eh he gets plenty of attractive women. Although a huge part of it is because he’s such a stereotypically attractive man that doesn’t point out womens entitlement or hypocrisy. Him being a leftist if anything would broaden his options. If hasan were a trumpee plenty of these leftist chicks would want nothing to do with him. But I can promise you than plenty right wing girls would still sleep with him. They don’t wanna admit it but even some of the most leftist women who claim they aren’t into mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:16 PM
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It’s not. But I’m not going to expect someone who isn’t a man to understand or care to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:08 PM
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“Selling them a dream” this thread is so fucking funny😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:07 PM
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Eh this just isn’t for true for men generally. I’ll openly admit it’s kinda true for myself LOL if I wanted a girlfriend that badly I could go find one I’m sure. I’m good looking, really good socially, etc. But most men aren’t. The fact that I’ve had below avg looking fat women feeling entitled to dating a guy like me says how fucked things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:57 PM
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Eh. In my experience dudes who are REALLY struggling rarely come to red pill. It’s typically younger men (maybe without fathers or a male role model) who have had some decent experience with women but we’re “fucked over”. And then come to red pill with the hope of gaining some control in their dating lives or understanding of “female nature”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:53 PM
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Ah yes men just be happy that she might date u despite thinking she’s settling and that you’re ugly lmaooooo fucking hilarious 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:51 PM
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I’d say she’s a like a 5. Wouldn’t be my first choice looks wise but then again unlike a lot of men I admittedly have some “options”. But I also wouldn’t eliminate her just by virtue of her looks either if I liked her personality. So yea, you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:48 PM
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Have u ever talked to a woman in your life?🤣 or even on a college campus??? The idea that all women solely want a LTR is fucking HILARIOUS
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:42 PM
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Been in 3 relationships and have a couple girls interested rn. No one’s ever said “5%” but when it comes to men having the same ease of dating as the average woman yes, you have to be an uncommon type of man. At the MOST I’d say top 20% and that’s being charitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:39 PM
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You don’t know any men. Men know men. At least the honest aspects. They aren’t living in some lala land. THANKFULLY they aren’t talking about in terms of “chads” or whatever. But they are certainly aware of the advantages women have in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:32 PM
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No. They’d just have to prove that average men generally face far more challenges when dating in comparison to average women and even slightly below average women. Which it seems has been proven time and time and time and time and time again. Could you prove otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:30 PM
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Most men with options want to explore those options. Its just true. We can try to beat around the bush but female desire is an incredibly powerful thing. Men know how rare it is for pretty women to come to them in flocks so when they do? Of course it’s going to be hard to consider settling down. Look at the popular leftist streamer “hasan”. Dude is 6’4, handsome, and rich. Yet he’s like 31 and still single. I can promise you he is single by choice. I know so many men who if they had a glow up to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:27 PM
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No one cares about high personality standards. But if you’re talking about looks you’re actually insane. Because if anything a guy being more attractive is going to mean he’s more likely to be entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:23 PM
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Eh I get what you’re saying but this feels like a pseudo intellectual semantic way of basically saying “just don’t complain to women about whatever you feel you’re disadvantaged in” and “don’t internalize your disadvantages that can make you insecure” which is entirely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:08 PM
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I think that’s the key though “guys online”. I don’t deny that. But the difference on dating apps is that it’s only going to be extremely good looking men who can get away with being vocal about what they “hate”. And even then a lot of good looking men aren’t vocal about it and at the very least will still sleep with far less attractive women. Where as on random apps like reddit it’s mostly just going to be specific groups of men who are trying to make themselves feel better pretending they have…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:04 PM
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And that’s a bad thing how exactly? Unless it’s a friendship no one is obligated to give some caring advice. Most women don’t actually care about mens well being either. If they did they would stop giving them ridiculous advice that only applies to or benefits women. “Oh just wait for the right person” “oh just be yourself” “oh just be nice”. This is horrible advice that applies solely to women. Because women don’t NEED to put effort in to attract men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:47 PM
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I’m saying losing weight is simple and straightforward, not that the process is easy. And that most people have all the self agency in the world to do it. All of this is factual. No, I’m not. Losing weight is simple as all hell and incredibly straightforward. There are gyms everywhere, equipment you can buy for home, diets and workouts online for free, etc. No, it isn’t valid. Do you even know valid means? “of an argument or point) having a sound basis in logic or fact; reasonable or cogent.” No…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:02 AM
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I literally have 4 female friends I love and often talk about social issues with. They’re awesome people who agree with everything I’ve said. I don’t associate with shitty people. This is like a woman saying “a lot of men judge women for not being virgins” and a man going “listen, i understand you might have shitty people around you-“ like? I even said it’s NOT ALL WOMEN? What is it with some women and being able to take absolutely 0 criticism about women? I could understand if I said ALL Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:50 AM
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Yes, it is literally entirely different. One is an undisputed biological fact. The other is your pseudo-intellectual take on interpersonal relationships and dating. No, preferences aren't always valid. An example you'd agree with: A 40-year-old man's preference for 18-year-old girls isn't "valid". Stop trying to paint the world as black and white or as if everything is of equal relevance, value, and importance. Having a "preference" for a specific race for instance is fundamentally different tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:37 AM
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This is literally the most braindead shit I think I've ever read on Reddit LMAOOOOO like I'm actually impressed. Were you even thinking when you typed this dumb crap??? I'm more attractive than a decent portion of women who have tried to talk to me. But I don't think they shouldn't express interest at all or that they're "bothering" me. I just don't want them thinking they're entitled to me or deserve me and shit-talking men they deem as "less" than me whilst talking to me. And if you have any t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:32 AM
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Men do skincare, men put effort into the clothes they wear, men manage their hair (I might even have more hair than you rn lmao and it's curly), and men wear jewelry? (I literally have chains and rings), men accessorize, etc etc etc. You're just reaching at this point. Also, all of that isn't even NEEDED to be viewed as attractive, it's a choice. Men AND women aren't somehow putting in "less effort" if they choose not to do those things. It's irrelevant. When did I complain that women are ugly? …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:28 AM
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I'm not slapping myself with anything. In fact, it's literally against my best interest to be talking about this as a physically attractive man with a personality, hobbies I'm passionate about, and direction in life. It would be better (at least sexually) to have these women be into me. And despite how surprising this may seem to you, I care about people even when their issues don't personally affect me. I'm not saying they're doomed to be virgins or relationshipless. I argue with incels constan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:58 AM
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No, it's not even remotely like that. It's like saying "most fat people can easily lose weight by changing their eating habits and consistently working out" Why do you keep taking my logical points about PEOPLE in general and instead of simply acknowledging you have to bring some irrelevant & incomparable thing to men up? Also, I said more than 90% for a reason, not everyone. And it still doesn't change my main point that not wanting to date a fat person (man or woman) is one of the most reasona…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:50 AM
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Do you know multiple straight men with mostly female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:37 AM
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Depends on the man or woman. I literally had a girl tell me the other day that despite being unattractive she goes for men who she knows are more attractive and more than likely only want to sleep with her. Ngl I was shocked by the honesty considering most women lie to hell and back. But you framed the "choose better" advice as somehow bad when it's literally valid a lot of the time. The reason it tends to be more valid for women than men is for the simple fact that women HAVE CHOICE. Most men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:32 AM
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"fatphobia" isn't a thing. Not wanting to date a fat person is literally the most reasonable physical standard there could possibly be. Being fat is indicative of poor health, bad life choices, laziness, and overeating which can mean overspending, and not being able to participate in enjoyable physical activities. And wanna know the best part of all? More than 90% of fat people can easily lose weight by changing their eating habits and consistently working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:20 AM
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18% is incredibly significant. And what other aspects? and don't make up shit either pretending as if men care. No man cares whether or not your makeup took time. Women will literally make stuff up and tell men they should value it, dating doesn't work like that. A man could tell you all day that you should value his video game collection, but it doesn't mean most women do. Living in Texas? I'd unironically have to say generally men besides those wearing skinny jeans dress better or the same as …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:16 AM
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Yup. And when you point this out you're met with an army trying to gaslight you out of existence. I've talked to far too women in life, and have far too much-lived experience to believe the virtue signally crap people say online. I'm not even saying ALL women are like that either. But it's more than enough for it to be an issue, and for the hypocrisy to be extremely annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:47 AM
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Getting attention from someone doesn't entail entitlement on their part. Nor would the presence of entitlement even suggests that the entitlement derives from a place of nothing other than existing (like with many women). It's not common to find a man who TRULY THINKS he is deserving of a 9 or 10 without doing ANYTHING. Even if he's an 8. It's why true confidence in men is valued so highly in the first place, it's scarce. Most men if ANYTHING give themselves too LITTLE credit. You would know thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:44 AM
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Either you're very unattractive, lying, or lacking self-awareness. If a dude was 5'3 and avg looking it's not going to matter how "polite" and "kind" he is to most women (not all, most). Most women are still going to friendzone him. And plenty of women will completely ignore how poorly men treat them if they're good-looking. If you're already a good-looking guy tho then yea, you being polite and kind IS a bigger deal because most men who are don't even need to be to attract women. Especially not…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:24 AM
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Not male and female alike. I have multiple friends men and women. An avg looking girl with depression and anxiety can still find well-put-together men who want to date her. Even if she were to make her mental state abundantly clear from the start. Men are not granted the same luxury. Unless the guy is very good looking good luck to him finding a well-put-together girl while he's depressed and anxious (lack of confidence).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:20 AM
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Most men wouldn't even care if this same amount of charitability was given to them, yet it isn't. It's ironic cause if the dude is butt fuck ugly then sure, maybe can have those standards without a complete shit storm. But the moment the guy is even decently attractive, or displays confidence, or is well off financially. ALL of a sudden he can't have any standards and needs to be fine with and love the first fat and or unattractive chick that introduces herself. Women do NOT hold themselves to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:17 AM
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like everyone else has said, it's for behavior. Women (whether they want to admit it or are even aware) most often are attracted to men they consider more attractive than themselves. A telling sign for this is if that man is ofc physically attractive but also if he has OTHER women who want him. And because those types of men typically don't have to put much effort commitment-wise or personality-wise other than exuding confidence through looks/stature. Women will be shocked when you ARE one of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:54 AM
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Unlike most people relying I’m gonna take the nuanced position and say it does exist. Although I don’t think it’s nearly as prominent as many rad fems would make it out to be. And I think toxic femininity exist as well and is just as prominent. Anyway I’d describe toxic masculinity as a man who’s so concerned with being viewed as masculine that he acts in emotionally disconnected, aggressive, disrespectful, non agreeable ways. Whether it be a refusal to cry in front of your spouse because you th…
/r/MensRights19/05/22 09:03 AM
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You literally just contradicted yourself. "women who have casual sex may be more likely to divorce" / "There's no reason to believe having casual sex with a specific woman will increase her chances...-" Yes, there is a reason. It not being 100% more likely doesn't mean there isn't a reason. I think it's funny how whenever we talk about women's preferences for stuff completely out of men's control like height we're told to just accept it and go for women who don't care (which is honestly true). Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:48 PM
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Are you ok? like genuinely? when I did mention Saudi Arabia or whether or not women care about what men think? Learn to read rather than impulsively replying off emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:25 AM
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Can we please not be dishonest here? It is not discouraged for women to ask out men, cut that crap out. I’ve talked to countless men about this and not a single one has said they don’t want women to ask them out. That would be like saying “it’s discouraged for men to ask out women” it’s NOT. Maybe if you’re insanely unattractive, socially awkward, or in some specific setting like a work environment, it wouldn’t be in your best interest. But GENERALLY speaking it is not discouraged in society to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:45 PM
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What are you even saying? I’m legitimately confused with the way you’ve worded this. Literally NOTHING is stopping women from asking men out if that’s what you’re getting at. My first ever girlfriend asked me out in 10th grade. If you want to ask a man out go ahead. And stop talking about how “rejection hurts” when most women haven’t even asked out 1 guy their entire lives. Get over yourself & keep it pushing just like most men do (unless you’re some degenerate incel). You’re not “expected” to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:26 PM
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Yes, it does, massively easier actually. As a guy who used to be scuffed asf the moment I had a glow up in junior year just the fact that I had more girls into me made it easier to pick one I was compatible with. Having options always makes dating easier. And even if there’s someone offering themselves who you don’t want you get a free self esteem boost. Meaning you’re more likely to be confident enough to deal with someone you do want when they come around. And you’re less likely to be stuck up…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:13 PM
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Much more than men, that’s the point. Idk why women struggle to just ADMIT DATING IS EASIER FOR YOU lmaooo it’s honestly just funny at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:59 PM
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Cause they know it's more attractive to them lol. Guys and girls are different but they don't understand this. If I tell a girl about my past sexual relations it might make her jealous for a min but she'll get over it and if anything end up more attracted to me. Women love when men are desired by other women. I remember the first time I noticed this back in HS. All of a sudden when I just had girls around me other girls wanted to know what was so appealing. Even if they had 0 interest in me prio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:49 PM
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I'm in decent shape. 20 years old & Like 5'8/9 158 pounds or so. And I've had plenty of women into me sexually. Although I'm not really into casual shit much. It feels nice? I mean ig it depends on what you want sexually. I don't really try to be masculine at all or anything but I enjoy going to the gym and sexually I'm more of the "dom" take the lead type person. I think I just naturally end up talking to women who are more of a sub sexually and I've been told I have a nice voice as well by mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:39 PM
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Tbh the world would be easier if no one cared. Personally, IDC if she's a virgin or not. But even if I did I don't think I should be criticized for it. SO many women care. If they didn't we wouldn't see countless arguments, tangents, and rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:21 PM
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Yup. Never asked once in my life yet always end up finding out. It's really not that complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:18 PM
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I don't think anyone is trying to debate whether it's "weird" or "logical" or "moral". They're simply pointing out the fact that generally speaking men care. The western countries aren't the only ones in the world either. Go to other parts of the world and caring about things like body count will become even more relevant lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:16 PM
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Are you a man? Cause if not they're definitely going to be less inclined to talk to you about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:14 PM
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Cause they're less stupid by that age lmao. They know straight out asking her body count isn't going to get anywhere with how many women can easily lie. Some may genuinely not even try in otherwise but even then it's typically a "settle" thing. I'm not saying whether this is good or bad. But it's the reality. Very few men are going to hear you're a virgin or only slept with a few people and be "put off" by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:13 PM
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The sky is blue
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:11 PM
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Really depends on age tbh. In HS it would've been wayyyyy more common. But if we're talking like grown-ass men then yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:06 PM
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Pretty sure he means whatever the girl whose friends would make fun of her for dating him. Presuming he's short and or broke
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:05 PM
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The assumption for it to be racist would be that the guy felt comfortable making that comment because it was a black woman ig. Although it does seem like a stretch without any more context.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:02 PM
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Do you mean intentionally? Cause most people I've met with kids in their early 20's had them accidentally lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:00 PM
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Honestly maybe I’m just insane. I have conversations like this all the time with women I’ve barely started talking to. I’m only 20 and am still trying to figure shit out in life tbh. I’ve only ever been in 2 relationships neither being long term although the 2nd could have been considered serious. I’m not gonna sit here and pretend all women take it well when you’re very honest with them🤣 but the ones that are able to discuss these things are the types of women I’m really into anyway. As someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:58 PM
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Should a child die for his fathers sins? Genuine question. For their mothers sins? For their grandparents? The notion that because some men in past decided to implement these systems that all men today regardless of their opinion somehow deserve suffer is so beyond cruelty idek if there’s a word to describe it. But you must be a child who hasn’t heard “two rights don’t make a wrong”. I’m not sure how many guys have rejected your ass to make you this spiteful. But I’m going to give you a life les…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:09 AM
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My initial gut feeling was to say "to at least some degree body count must matter right?". Yet the more I think about it the more it just seems illogical. I know the typical argument is that because it's so much easier for women to have sex that it matters more if they've had more sex. But that just feels like you're begging the question. "You having more sex matters because you can have more sex easier" I mean it really stems from a place of insecurity does it not? Tons of people enjoy and want…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:50 AM
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