MoistMaoist Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
4	It doesn't matter what behavior you claim to have witnessed from women - if your beliefs fundamentally rely on painting all or most women as being the same, you're just being misogynistic and there is no reasoning with you.		MoistMaoist	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/20 10:24 PM

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1	As a Bi guy, dating men is not only easier, but it is the main reason I resent women I am a bi woman who has dated bi men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/20 09:50 AM
1	Its perfectly reasonable not to date someone because of their past Ok, I think you think that i have these personal views. The point of the post is that its reasonable for others to have these considerations. You're making this way too specific to me when I'm only defending the thought process and saying its valid. I don't particularly care whether they're your views or someone else's. It's not as if I have any attachment to you as an individual. But they are sexist views and the reasons misogynists use to defend them are irrational and hypocritical, and the vi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/20 04:45 AM
1	Its perfectly reasonable not to date someone because of their past I'm too lazy to search for the link, just google "women divorce rate premarital partners" or something similar. So your source is uhhh idk I've heard that somewhere just trust me, I'm sure science agrees with me! Not wanting to date someone is not slut shaming. You wouldn't have a problem dating someone with a high partner count if you weren't a slut shamer. To be CRYSTAL clear: a slut shamer is someone who negatively judges women for having a high partner count. Whether they take to the streets…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/20 03:44 AM
2	Its perfectly reasonable not to date someone because of their past There were no arguments here. Just your opinion you declared as an 'argument'. I love the irony of you baselessly asserting that everything I said was somehow not an argument but just an assertion. I addressed his points pretty directly and demonstrated that his concerns are with a woman's dating history, and he is using sexual history as a cover for that. Your POV is not anymore right than his POV. This debate is not some trivial, subjective thing like whether green or blue is a prettier color.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/20 03:00 AM
1	Its perfectly reasonable not to date someone because of their past Absolutely wrong. There are studies which show that there is a lot higher change for divorce the more partners a woman had. It's the lowest for 0 premarital partners (<10%) and the highest for 21+ partners (>80%). Firstly, it is a correct analysis of the issue with OP's specific reasons for caring so much about partner count or "sexual history" as he keeps trying to frame it in self-defense. Secondly, I'd like to see a source. Third, this still sounds like post-hoc rationalization for slut-shami…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/20 02:10 AM
1	Its perfectly reasonable not to date someone because of their past The context of how the N-count was acquired matters to the people who factor that in their decision. Do you remember the part where I said "your question boils down to 'has this person been in a lot of relationships?' not 'has this person had sex with a lot of people?'" You're not addressing that point. I'm not making a case that everyone should be virgins until marriage But for some arbitrary reason, you've decided that it's okay for them to have, what was it, no more than 10? We are basing thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/20 01:43 AM
1	Its perfectly reasonable not to date someone because of their past You're just shoving the issue under the rug with "Well that's just, like, your opinion, man" and not actually addressing any of the arguments I made against your points. I mean, I responded directly to your points with an argument that has substance, and your response is to gloss over that and just say it's a "preference" or a "value" as if that means that you shouldn't analyze WHY you feel that way. Basically, you seem to believe that beliefs for their own sake are self-defensible. If I believe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/20 09:24 PM
1	Its perfectly reasonable not to date someone because of their past For the 1st type there is nothing wrong with living one's life that way. Right, and if you recognize this, then you shouldn't be sitting here coming up with ways to justify caring about a person's partner count in other contexts either. Because, as you say: For the 2nd type it's the hardest to predict. Being dumped by many people is a red flag and the context is why it matters most. and: For the 3rd type it's pretty obvious. A serial dater that cant settle down is the least likely to be a good c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/20 09:00 PM
0	Despite each of our issues, how many of you are willing to admit that you would HATE to be the opposite gender? I'm not physically weak and at the mercy of half the world. You do realize that men are stronger on average and that that is different from every individual man being stronger than every individual woman, right? I also know for a fact that men are not incapable of loving women but I'm also not exclusively straight. So fuck off with all your assumptions tbh. I am non-binary so being male wouldn't change a whole lot in the sense that I'd like some parts of it but dislike some parts of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/20 06:45 PM
1	Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex? Lmao. Dude, I am a woman, and I have no problem getting laid. I literally came here to argue with incels. I'm not one of them. But thanks for ignoring most of the things I had to say and just insulting me instead! Only proves that you have no argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/20 12:09 AM
3	Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex? Feminism, of course, is not interested in benefiting men at all, except as digs towards "the patriarchy". Patriarchy hurts men too, and feminism is interested in the collapse of patriarchy. The primary focus of feminism is on uplifting women and creating a society where men and women have an equal shot and are equally respected. But that's not particularly relevant here. Who, me? No way at all. I'm a nice guy Oh, I see. So you're better than most men, you simply acknowledge that most men are bad…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/20 10:56 PM
2	Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex? Matriarchal societies never seem to advance past the mud-hut stage Source? Even if that were true, what exactly are you trying to say? That women are incapable? Correlation does not equal causation. You do realize that men are generally stronger and more aggressive, I assume. So it's not hard to see how they could come into power far more often than women do. Since we know these things we can see that continuing on a path that will lead to women having to work those jobs for the sake of society …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/20 10:43 PM
1	Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex? It's entirely possible to be a raging misogynist and not one to want to have sex with women at all. Right, but that's not the issue here, the issue is that incels who complain about not getting laid are raging misogynists. Saying they think there's an "obligation" rather than, "they really wish they could fuck hot chicks" is not the same thing. That leap hasn't been met. "I can't get laid because women are all shallow sluts who only want to fuck Chad" carries with it the implication that women a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/20 10:32 PM
2	Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex? I mean we can have a whole complicated debate about the exact reasons for the gender gap in various fields but at the end of the day, there is currently no shortage of contractors that is so great that women have to fill the gap. And we are discussing that specific scenario.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/20 10:23 PM
3	Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex? If you care about people's happiness, then you would be interested in finding a compromise between men and women's interests to benefit both parties. Compromise? What kind of compromise exists between "I don't consent to having sex with you" and "But I want to have sex with you"? You either respect women's right to say no or you don't and you rape them. And yes, as it reaches closer and closer to 100%, men will eventually rape women en mass Would you be among those men? or more accurately, devic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/20 10:18 PM
1	Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex? Has someone claimed that some where? It doesn't take a genius to extrapolate that men complaining about the fact that women don't have sex with them (and therefore coming to the conclusion that women are evil, sluts or some other insult) implies that women have an obligation to fuck men. If women don't have that obligation, then why be a raging angry misogynist ranting on the internet? They're simply exercising their right to bodily autonomy. And if you lose out because of that, then maybe take …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/20 10:09 PM
0	Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex? built by normal men working hard, engineered by normal men working hard, and monitored for safety and quality by normal men working hard? So you're saying that women are incapable of jobs like these? Women never work as contractors or builders? And the whole 'having police' thing and the 'military that can defend us from threats' thing? Yeah. When was the last time the US went to war in self-defense? Rape is stopped by men agreeing to stop each other from doing it. So all men are capable of rape…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/20 10:03 PM
1	Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex? Would you be among those rapists?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/20 09:56 PM
12	Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex? I'd like to know exactly what you think we should call it when men on the internet act like victims because they can't get laid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/20 09:53 PM
2	Why is it some big societal problem if every single man can't get sex? Men keep society working You realize that women work too, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/20 09:52 PM
2	The Telegraph: "Women are being strangled, choked, slapped and spat on during sex - we need to stop pretending this is normal" It doesn't matter whether women like rough sex for cultural or biological reasons. From a sex-positive point of view, the only thing that matters is that all parties are consenting adults. We cannot and should not police what consenting adults do in privacy. However, if for the sake of argument we accept that this inclination is due to misogyny and is entirely cultural, then it remains that the solution is not to police people's sex lives but rather to target the misogyny that causes it - in oth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/20 08:59 PM
3	I Still Can’t Tell If Y’all Think Women Should be MORE Selective Or Less I don't want to And you don't want to because you have puritanical ideas about sex that are... Wait for it... Sexist! Whether or not you also make a point of shaming them out loud is a complete red herring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/20 10:29 PM
2	I Still Can’t Tell If Y’all Think Women Should be MORE Selective Or Less Omfg you are dodging so fucking hard. There is no reason not to date someone with a high partner count unless you are a slut shaming misogynist. It's not that hard to understand. Quit trying to evade.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/20 09:42 PM
3	I Still Can’t Tell If Y’all Think Women Should be MORE Selective Or Less Please explain to me what it is that you think men are thinking when they go "Oh hey I would have dated you but you have had too much dick kthnxbai" that is somehow not sexist slut shaming. I'll make myself some popcorn to enjoy while I watch this display of mental gymnastics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/20 07:25 PM
2	I Still Can’t Tell If Y’all Think Women Should be MORE Selective Or Less Your opinion is absolutely irrelevant. Because I don't agree with you? My entire point is that women are not bad, dirty, or worth less because they've had sex with a lot of men. What about that is reductionist?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/20 06:18 PM
3	I Still Can’t Tell If Y’all Think Women Should be MORE Selective Or Less Literally no one said that people should be forced to date each other, but the fact that he doesn't want to date her simply because of her number of partners means that he thinks there is something wrong with women having a lot of sex. That is a sexist attitude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/20 03:51 PM
3	I Still Can’t Tell If Y’all Think Women Should be MORE Selective Or Less At the same time women shouldn't complain if a guy doesn't want to be with them because of the things they've done. I mean, if a man doesn't want to be with a woman because she has a high partner count, we have a word for that: slut shaming. Sure he's allowed to make his own choice about who he wants to be with, but then he can't complain either, when he treats women who have enjoyed sex with other men (a completely natural and healthy thing to do) like trash. Women are human beings and we have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/20 01:18 PM
1	It doesn't matter what behavior you claim to have witnessed from women - if your beliefs fundamentally rely on painting all or most women as being the same, you're just being misogynistic and there is no reasoning with you. Tfw you're too stupid to conceptualize that biology and social roles are two separate things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/20 10:41 PM
1	It doesn't matter what behavior you claim to have witnessed from women - if your beliefs fundamentally rely on painting all or most women as being the same, you're just being misogynistic and there is no reasoning with you. If you think all or most people of a certain identity are the same, you're a bigot. It is no different from calling someone racist when they say black people are all lazy. Saying something like "all women only want to fuck Chad" is the exact same thing and absolutely misogynistic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/20 10:37 PM
1	It doesn't matter what behavior you claim to have witnessed from women - if your beliefs fundamentally rely on painting all or most women as being the same, you're just being misogynistic and there is no reasoning with you. I didn't know that like 4 sentences constitutes a rant these days.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/20 10:34 PM
1	It doesn't matter what behavior you claim to have witnessed from women - if your beliefs fundamentally rely on painting all or most women as being the same, you're just being misogynistic and there is no reasoning with you. You're a maoist. I am not in fact a Maoist, the name is just a pun. And attacking me only proves you don't have an argument. :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/20 10:30 PM
1	Men overestimate how much women care about male approval Women aren't fish.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/20 06:24 PM
-2	Men overestimate how much women care about male approval So women are all liars. That's not sexist af or anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/20 03:20 AM
0	Men overestimate how much women care about male approval Smh	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/20 01:09 AM
2	Men overestimate how much women care about male approval >When we employed the nice guy traits that women claim they love, we got rejected. Maybe you're not as nice as you think. >Don’t listen to what women say Go to r/AskWomen and ask how many of them want to be with a guy who doesn't listen to what they have to say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/20 01:00 AM
9	Men overestimate how much women care about male approval Okay so because a few women do something that means all women do it. By that logic, I could say all men are rapists. Of course that would be stupid so I wouldn't do that, but you certainly couldn't say shit about it if I did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/20 12:49 AM
16	Men overestimate how much women care about male approval No matter how many women tell you stuff like "Hey I'm not really into the Chad type you guys go on about, I've dated/had sex with guys of many body types or personalities that are completely different from that" MRAs will simply call us liars and keep repeating the same narrative. I've said it many times. Other women have said it many times. What debate is there to be had, if the only voice you'll listen to are the voices of men, and especially men who already agree with you? You either have to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/20 12:37 AM
3	American dads "babysitting" their own kids and not changing their diapers, not paying child support, etc. Is it cultural that Americans expect less effort/responsibility from fathers than from mothers? The whole issue of how men are sort of seen as "babysitting the kids" and "giving mom a day off" is, like many things, overblown on Reddit and treated like a much more common occurrence/bigger issue than it really is. It's usually said in a sort of joking way, like "haha women do all the work lol" and I mean it doesn't come from NOWHERE because yeah often times men are lazy and women are expected to be homemakers and be the primary caretaker etc. This is caused by patriarchy, toxic masculinity e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/20 08:14 PM
-2	Women aren't as much into "buffed" men as some guys defend, it's just that already-attractive men are immediately considered "buffed" as soon as they put a little muscle on. It shouldn't be controversial to say this but I can already feel the Red Pillers getting mad at me for pointing out the obvious: attractiveness is subjective af, speaking as a woman who has a history of dating chubby guys but also guys all over the spectrum of body types.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/20 07:50 PM
0	CMV: Men being seen as a ''Safe option'' as a partner is an issue. >First of all, I know what Incel means. When you defend them as nice people, you're making it clear that you're not thinking about the implications of the word "incel." >Now you're the one pretending to be able to read minds TIL that understanding obvious implications = reading minds. >Not really, just look at life all around you and you will find many women that are too entitled for the average man because they think that they can get "better" men. I'm done arguing with you. Your response to be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/20 08:46 PM
0	CMV: Men being seen as a ''Safe option'' as a partner is an issue. You're either a teenager or a sad basement dweller who hasn't seen daylight in years. Sucks for you. If you weren't a douchebag you could probably get laid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/20 08:28 PM
-1	CMV: Men being seen as a ''Safe option'' as a partner is an issue. I don't mean just physically, lots of women view the average guy as below them, so will on average aim higher or be less willing to "settle". This is literally nothing more than an attempt at mind reading and generalizing women. Even most incels are just misunderstood and frustrated. Let me break this down for you. Do you know what incel stands for? Involuntarily celibate. Literally just thinking about that for a second. Involuntarily celibate. In other words "I'm not having sex but it's not by …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/20 08:13 PM
1	CMV: Men being seen as a ''Safe option'' as a partner is an issue. There is literally no point in arguing with someone who's just gonna go "fake news" at me. You are clearly only interested in believing what you want to believe so you might as well unsub from here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/20 08:05 PM
0	CMV: Men being seen as a ''Safe option'' as a partner is an issue. women will rank average men as much less attractive than them, even if they are the average girl Physical attractiveness is not the only factor my dude. I just explained that. But you can't lie and say that the dating market isn't heavily skewed towards women. I'm not saying that it's exactly the same, but I think the various reactionary and misogynistic movements that emphasize the differences that do exist (which are HIGHLY subjective) including MGTOW, red pill, incels etc all skew the narrati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/20 06:36 PM
-3	CMV: Men being seen as a ''Safe option'' as a partner is an issue. >We live, by large, with the mindset and the knowledge that it is much easier for a woman to find/have sexual partners/emotional partners and relationships... Essentially, the playing field exists in such a way that it has become commonplace for women to sleep around and enjoy their sexual lives (no shaming or hate there) before settling down, whereas the same experiences may not be available to a large percentage of men This is the kind of belief that people with no concept of how the world rea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/20 07:48 AM
1	I think women should offer a paternity test to the father of their child without being asked. Because the kind of proposal that OP is making is the kind of proposal that only 2 kinds of people make. Those who have no idea how actual adult relationships work (both platonic and romantic) because they don't interact with other human beings very often/are teenagers who don't yet have that experience. Or Those who have no idea how actual adult relationships work because they have low empathy or lack understanding, whether due to some kind of condition, being poorly socialized or whatever. Muc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/19 05:37 AM
1	This whole red pill/blue pill culture is something very American. Why though? There's a lot to unpack here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/19 06:14 PM
7	This whole red pill/blue pill culture is something very American. Why though? You're not just "going your own way." If you want to swear off women, be my guest, I couldn't give a single fuck less. Instead, you are making it your business to tear down others, stereotype, and dismiss any evidence that doesn't fit your sexist narrative. And your complete lack of meaningful response to anything I have to say only proves that you don't use logic and reason in the slightest. You're trapped in a corner, so all you can do is claim I'm brainwashed. Sad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/19 08:54 PM
16	This whole red pill/blue pill culture is something very American. Why though? It all starts with a woman's need to be compensated for being a woman. I'd bet my left tit that you've been told dozens of times by women that we don't think that way, yet you'll forever believe that women are a shallow hivemind because it fits your narrative. It's not that we can't get laid. It's that we can't find good women to commit to. That sounds like a personal problem my dude. Men all around the world are in great committed relationships. My guess is that you're bitter about being single…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/19 08:44 PM
20	This whole red pill/blue pill culture is something very American. Why though? Counterpoint: The internet is America-centric	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/19 08:39 PM
3	Older women, do you think you can afford to be as picky as you could be when you were younger? Lmao. Nice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/19 12:11 AM
8	Older women, do you think you can afford to be as picky as you could be when you were younger? So you're some special flavor of misogynist influenced by incel/MGTOW/Red Piller/whatever. Okay I guess. You're still wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/19 12:06 AM
6	Older women, do you think you can afford to be as picky as you could be when you were younger? Your statistics are made up. And if you thought men and women were equally shitty, you wouldn't be here arguing as a Red Piller. You can't say "oh I don't think women are particularly bad people" and then target women as the problem. You're either deflecting or you have massive amounts of cognitive dissonance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/19 11:38 PM
9	Older women, do you think you can afford to be as picky as you could be when you were younger? There is a whole world beyond the women that you know. Same could be said for you. the divorce rate Is all women's fault somehow? all the paternity fraud There are lots of shitty people in the world, both men and women. How about all of the women who raise a kid alone because the father runs away and refuses to take responsibility? We could sit here all day and go back and forth about how a lot of men have done such and such shitty thing and how a lot of women have done this or that, but at the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/19 10:37 PM
9	Older women, do you think you can afford to be as picky as you could be when you were younger? Except that's complete bullshit. I'm a woman and I do not see men that way. 99% of the women I know do not see men that way. You can look all over Reddit and see posts from women who love the men they're with who are over 30. Your attempt to project your garbage onto women as an excuse to reinforce your misogyny is laughably pathetic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/19 10:24 PM
28	Older women, do you think you can afford to be as picky as you could be when you were younger? Why do you see relationships as this simplistic transactional deal, with no nuance for personal compatibility, totally denying that aging and attractiveness is not a simple and reliable formula based on some linear, inverse relationship, and acting like women's only value in life is whether they're in a relationship or not? And have you considered that we wouldn't even want to be with a man who is so shallow that he sees us as disposable and garbage once we hit 30? Like wtf is this toxic nonsens…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/19 05:40 PM
5	What does the husband of an 18 - 23 year old woman "cashing in on her beauty" look like? Feel free to tell me what you meant then, I'm all ears. But yes if you think women are dumber than men you are clearly a misogynist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/19 09:16 PM
7	What does the husband of an 18 - 23 year old woman "cashing in on her beauty" look like? So young women are uniquely dumb, in contrast to say, young men? Do you believe that attractive young men don't have a tendency to fall for shitty partners just as much as young women do? Or are you equating all young women with shitty partners who fall for Chads or something? Trying to understand the twisted logic here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/19 08:04 PM
3	A man and women CONSENSUALLY having sex unprotected is the responsibility of both parties regardless of gender. Yes, it is Purple Pill Debate, where red pillers who like to stereotype debate blue pillers who argue against that because it's sexist bullshit. Now you're getting it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/19 01:33 AM
4	A man and women CONSENSUALLY having sex unprotected is the responsibility of both parties regardless of gender. How is it helpful in any way to sit here and stereotype people? These are nothing but assertions based on personal anecdotes that almost certainly are reaffirmed by confirmation bias. Here's the simple truth: both men and women have a responsibility to themselves, to each other, and to the potential future baby who might suffer the consequences to be as safe as possible. If one or both parties can't talk about it and assert themselves then they're too immature to have sex. No excuses about how w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/19 01:25 AM