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7

He can move on to the next then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:11 PM
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Dude i have been closed my whole life and for nothing i would get back to this hell
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 07:17 AM
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exact opposite to my experiance
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:15 PM
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If you aren't open about your emotions you attract women who don't want you to open up because they're pathetic. Same with male friendships though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 02:06 PM
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Nah, there's plenty of misandrist feminists. It is funny when a feminist talks about misandry and in the middle she talks about feminism like it's the same. Normally feminist try to do the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:31 AM
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Dude, i didn't come here to win anything. I thought you might have insight and knowledge. I tested your claims in my framework, asked you for the dissonance and you responded. It just doesnt work in reference to my knowledge. I don't think there's any argument at all. You attacking me is more a sign you're insecure about your insight, but honestly i just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 06:49 AM
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You know, it's your map to make sense. If you wanna keep it flawed, be my guest. I was interested if you had some insight, but appearently you dont
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:02 AM
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Me pointing out a major flaw is obtuse. Aha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:38 PM
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Yeah, idk. First result for me is the wiki for that movie named trp, and second is the wiki for the wiki bp/rp from the matrix.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:01 PM
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I think most people will think of the matrix without googling anything. When is the last time you googled a key word if an elon musk tweet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:44 PM
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i still don't understand how this has anything to do with conservatism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:39 PM
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Do you think the subreddit is more relevant than the movie it takes the redpill meme from?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:13 PM
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dude, you're talking about nazis being conservatives. doesn't ring to be illogical for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 02:09 PM
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there are many republicans who are not conservatives
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:31 AM
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I understand now what you mean. Do these people see themselv as conservative? It is very hard for me to make the argument for neonazis being us conservatives 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:55 AM
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What do you mean? Inner or outer politics?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:58 AM
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Music is to warn tigers that you come so they sprint off into an ambush. Highly heterosexual, so my guess is you subconsciously crave hunting with buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:26 PM
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women are the worst to be friends in online dating really superficial
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:42 PM
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what about gay folks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:38 PM
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men who find other men funny are high probability homosexual, since humor is a evolutionary trait for men to get pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:37 PM
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how is conservatism a terrorist movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 04:20 PM
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this a perfect example of a static mindset that is afraid to fail and tries to rationalize. failing is part of learning. all these people you talk about, they do think about it too. talking with friends about your love life is analyzing and reinterpreting it, having a heartache is learning from failure. love songs, love literature, paintings, all this is is part of it. you can do it efficiently or non-efficiently, and i agree that a lot of people on here do it inefficiently. and you can do it co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 11:14 AM
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a being part of b is not the same as b being part of a there's plenty of misandry without feminism. the person i responded too is pretty open about her opinions, i just like that she openly admits to confuse feminism and misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:54 AM
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i love how you are equating feminism with misandry, hahahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:29 AM
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https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/suicide-rate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:05 AM
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womens health is of primal importance as their gender role, so we don't allow that mens competence is of primal importance as their gender role, so we allow that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:00 AM
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You can have friends for friends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:01 AM
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Its an issue because our culture is based around the promise that a sex-based life is key to happiness. Once enough guys don't feel this is true they'll revolte against this paradigm and the wealth distribution m->f will stop, making it more difficult for mothers to raise their child to become a healthy man. This is a vicious circle, we're in the middle of it and males not having sex will lead to destruction if we don't find a solution to keep them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:48 AM
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I only know of india having a real problem with rape. Which countries do promote rape? Edit: isnt that actually what you said would be ideal for the us, that men are against it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:37 AM
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Must be a US thing then. Because here men care more about rape than murder or homelessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:22 AM
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But they don't care about murder either. Or homelessness. Rape happens to men as well if you don't exclude arbitrary limitations. That's what OP is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:07 AM
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I can't really talk about america since i live in europe. Why should they care if it doesn't effect them much? Ethics, morals? They don't really care much for murder, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:03 AM
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I understand now. The laws are criminalizing rape and men go to prison for it. Isn't that an indicator that they are against it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 05:55 AM
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What would you wish they would do? Or is that just how it is and that's good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 05:43 AM
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"most men don't agree with rape in theory" What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 05:16 AM
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you just wanted to say baby killers, right? you are making regrets impossible, since by your logic nobody would do what they regretted later in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:54 PM
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I’m glad you’re figuring it all out while i felt pretty bad and helpless about all this stuff for some time, the confrontation with it really helped me get some shit together. things i never had touched became of prime importance to understand, like my feminist education which did a lot of harm in that regard. but it made me overcome it and grow. you are very kind with words, it felt good to hear some words of compassion. i do however think that all what makes a man attractive and happy both, co…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:37 PM
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Yeah, i think there's a lot of deep psyche stuff going on interdependent between the two sexes. Can't even think on the implications for gay folks. Just imagining how porn work, without smell, without sound. Hell, i can get of to stories. Sexuality is a psychic phenomena, somehow we break it away from social gender and personality. Or think of the massive projection when in love. Of course Sex isn't fun when you somehow aren't the person you are, when you feel everything you are is different. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:56 PM
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what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:19 PM
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beautiful argument
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:24 AM
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you could also make better points. instead of making general statements based solely on anecdotal evidence, cite your study. or stay at your experience instead of making it a statement. nobody suggest to stop talking, it's you overbending a valid criticism into the absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:28 AM
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i agree. additionally, i think friendship is underrated or at least very differently rated. so values get mixed, and what is for some a key element of their soul for others is a (in)convenience for power. things are easier than you'd think, but they are also more difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:24 AM
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oh yeah, i do know many women who are very supportive of each other. i've also know many women who were supportive of me. women have a bit of an edge on being supportive on an emotional level. like you can be wrong and they'll support you finding your way through it. while men are a bit more ready for active support. both are incredible helpful. i just thought the initial argument is contradicting the general stereotypes in an absurdly matter. i think there are times for friends to have your bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:57 AM
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i don't understand you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:44 AM
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that doesn't sound like my experience at all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:15 AM
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what do they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:15 AM
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thanks, it's nice to hear some words of encouragement. i did a lot of thinking and feeling about my situation and there's reason things were like they were. i do think that i did play a vital part in these dynamics and i don't feel comfortable or truthful saying it was the womens fault. for every man there is a way in which he thinks dating or courting a woman works. he integrates that image of how he has to be to get the attention, the lust or the love of a woman into his personality. social st…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:12 AM
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it's such a shame female social hierarchy mechanisms aren't as well known as males. it seems to be much more covert but without a doubt they are present. "i prefer male friends cuz girls are too much drama". i agree there is more of these behaviors in adolescents but i also think that these social power struggles do find different ways to manifest. see the political climate, cancel culture, twitter wars. i'd argue 90% of ppd are non resolved adolescent power issues just taken to another level, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:18 AM
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I don't know what you achieve by making broad generalisations that are obviously incorrect. Who hurt you? Why do you think they chose the term queen instead of sun, lioness or terra? Those terms would be much better enabler of female self-esteem since they are self enabling. The Queen is a power-hierarchical term that's defined through its status. Nothing worse for you self-esteem than that. Calling yourself Queen doesnt make you one, only in relationship to others are you royalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:48 AM
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Love is good. We'd be missing a bunch of great songs without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:21 AM
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Are you saying women are known to have each others back while men don't? I really wonder what kinda guys you meet. Generally the stereotype is just the other way around. Women are superficial friendly but backstab while men are superficial competitive but have your back. Also: men prefer high self esteem women so much. "Queen" kinda women are just acting entitled to compensate for missing self esteem. That's whats irritating, because they obviously lack it but act all up their horse. I mean that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:02 AM
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Thanks for opening up about it. Your situation seems a bit like a mystery, that your ex has hidden in him. From my experiance this stereotype - men being sexwild - has done quite delibidosing feelings in me. Always being the lover and active part makes you wonder if the other person really loves you. Most women i slept with became detached in sex, they said their body took over and they just let go, but i only felt a loss in connection with them. So for a sexwild male thats no problem at all, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:31 AM
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If you don't like playing soccer everybody should stop playing soccer so those who want to play soccer need to pay those who initially also wanted to play soccer. I just dont get the logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:06 PM
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Why is it always some collectivist actions that you want? Just decide for yourself instead of needing some affirmation and in-line thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:33 PM
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I was raised feminist and hated the male gender. I've come to realize how toxic this ideology is. Men are great. As are women but the feminist ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:41 AM
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Why only q4w though?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:22 AM
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Men that reach a certain level of being unsuccessfull will project basicaly every thing into the sexuality paradigm. That's because sexuality is the first motive with nature/social ambivalence and thus a good canvas for it. I've been there. Funnily enough it just goes away, the more you realize your real motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:12 AM
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Yeah, that's unjust. It was still a funny joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:46 AM
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Make it feel good
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:27 PM
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Agreed, it's hella weird. At first. But things make a bit more sense in the broader way for me, when i understood the connection between fatherhood and infidelity of the woman. You invest basically everything. So you wanna make sure you're not raising another mans kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:24 PM
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Taking the unfunniest movement as guidance on how to react to jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:11 PM
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ppd guys failing the shittest. it's funny, don't get so upset about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:34 PM
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most men love throwing away time and money, it's just traditional masculine behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:54 PM
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Lol she played you likr jimy hendrix his guitar
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:03 PM
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I had a rabbit like that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:01 PM
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Everybody on the Internet is an alpha male from the apes Perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:00 PM
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That's what i say when you are obnoxious. No need to invest brainpower in someone that just wants to shit on your floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:58 PM
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Making your mental health dependent on one man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:48 PM
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I might date someone for 3 month and then dump her if i don't think she's good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:46 PM
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Making your morals dependent on the woman you fuck. And you wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:45 PM
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Why are all the cool guys on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:42 PM
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Dude, just work on yourself. Lift a bit, learn a new language and join a club. Take some time off women. No need to go all toxic masculinity incel on us. If you feel bad talk to a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:38 PM
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What cats?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:36 PM
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Dude, just because you don't get any doesnt mean all men are like you. You're giving a bad name to incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:35 PM
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You never hear this points from gay guys. Weird huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:31 PM
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Nobody answered
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:53 PM
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You really are a rethoric Mastermind. "How will they ever see through that strawman, tihihihi"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:22 PM
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I'm here for you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:39 PM
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You're not happy thus everybody else is to be enemies so you don't feel alone, understood
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:34 PM
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Careful with that language youngster
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:30 PM
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Why should i name three?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:06 PM
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the foundation of feminism is getting women angry and men being afraid of breaking the law of purity. it's a giant shittest gone mad. look at how de beauvoir argues and kickstarts the second wave. men hate women, men hate female animals, men think the uterus castrates the sperm. women read that and thought "that's sound logic, i like getting mad".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:45 PM
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i fucked your female ancestor
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:40 PM
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i am a nice guy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:40 PM
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feminism is a sexist movement with sexist results. it is worsening the gender balance in our society to a harmful degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:27 AM
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also the words reminds of homunculus a bit. what's wrong with the term egalitarian movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:20 AM
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shaming rape victims to redefine the term to be less impactfull
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:11 AM
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what do you know about the social, psychological and physical realities of a man that has been raped? those are interacting attributes. for example when you are raped while being physically stronger the psychological and social consequences are much much more depowering than if you are physically weaker. peope say: well, you could just have fought it off, it wasnt rape. you ask yourself the question: was i even raped, everybody says i can't have been raped. you are putting shame on rape victims.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:10 AM
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the more men are recognized to be raped the more they show compassion with women who are raped. kids of earliest age show this psychological truth. yet feminists like that say "men can't be raped, it's unwanted contact" and you lessen male rape importance by balancing it with female rape. it's easy: show compassion with male rape and men show more compassion with female rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:06 AM
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how can you be a feminist, read this and not be utterly ashamed of what your movement has become? honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:03 AM
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Lol writing 4 paragraphs and saying you're done shows exactly how little you care about truth but all about power. Good luck, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:59 AM
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It's been decades that i sat in the lap of a girl. How big are the girls in your environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:05 AM
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I don't obsess as much about incels as you, but i guess pedophilia isnt just as prevalent as you make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:50 AM
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Dude, fuck off, it's your argument. I'm telling you it's dishonest because you mix different frameworks of time. Don't tell me, i need to do work for your argument to be correct. I was being friendly with you and giving feedback. I was saying that the 80s are 4 decades from now. The 90s 3 decades, that's bad data. With gender equality women should pay men as much aliments so your argument searching for men not paying women is flawed from the start. Show a comparison of how much f-m and m-f and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:37 AM
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All women profit politically from feminism being gender mainstream. When hillary clinton says that women are the main victims of war because their men die thats feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:31 AM
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The police comes and i go to prison when i don't pay taxes. Taxes are a wealth transfer of male to female.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:20 AM
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Whats fgm and mgm
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:16 AM
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Yeah, it was getting late.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:15 AM
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*Dumb'ass
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:53 AM
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my position is a roman one. A child is only a child after 6months, post birth abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:55 PM
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I never heard about that. Heard about feminists propagating pedophilia in the 70-90s though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:54 PM
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You get arrested when you dont pay taxes here
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:53 PM
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Yeah, i think data that's 30yo is bad. What do you want me to say? It's just a point that makes you look dishonest. You citing monetary value from 35 years ago without adjusting it for Inflation, it's just a bad argument. I feel manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:38 PM
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Ah, thats why men have contempt for women because they have to pay for them in taxes and don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:34 PM
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You make it sound like incels are pedophiles. In my opinion you are just trying to shame them and if you continue i'll just stop talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:32 PM
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Alfred Einstein
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:30 PM
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It's a better idea than seperating the issues in m and f. Hominist sounds a bit weird though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:28 PM
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She's known to be rude and obnoxious. Maybe fell on her head as a child, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:27 PM
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Some think about homies or family being sad and wish they could help. So they are not focused 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:25 PM
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This guy's a genios making iq now possible to be negative
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:22 PM
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I don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:17 PM
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Didnt you catch that post with the fds chick manipulating her 130k indian lover so he broke down on the phone? She had remorse but every other fds chick told her thats how you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:15 PM
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I am a professional psyatrist and you Sir or madam have deep rooted problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:08 PM
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I drank someones bathwater and im still as good a man as everybody else. Didn't know it was bathwater, they just gave me american beer, not so bad in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:06 PM
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The happy meal and circus tricks caught my interest but i dont find enough will to read the rest
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:03 PM
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Manipulating people is minding your own business now. Good to now fds logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:02 PM
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The cutting isn't the bad part but feeding the nails just makes me disgusted
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:56 PM
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The law grants women rights it doesnt grant men, whats so funny about that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:48 PM
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Dude, i'm saying everybody can talk shit about others. There's no strength in calling someone fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:47 PM
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When you stop shaming fatherly love you'll get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:46 PM
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Thanks, but i disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:45 PM
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Like sitting in front of you, in a bus?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:44 PM
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You know what privileged means, right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:44 PM
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Bronze like a beautiful taint?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:43 PM
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Yeah, but one is smart the other stupid. But who?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:37 PM
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Men are hypogaming because their fathers didn't love them enough, cuz fathers needed to work for family. In new generations fathers will educate boys how beautiful they are and females will die out cuz they are not as beautiful. Sad and true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:34 PM
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Ew is code for ew and when they ew it means ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:31 PM
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If you take your selfies illegally, just use the mugshot
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:30 PM
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Cutting your nails takes a huge chunk of the morning routine already
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:28 PM
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Of what
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:28 PM
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Dude, don't call us the f-word just because blue is a beautiful color for the eyes, the sky and the sea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:26 PM
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projecting fragility on men when you're out of arguments truly a sign of strength
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:21 PM
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that's a pretty strong claim, got something strong to back that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:19 PM
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i have not. making a point with data that's a generation old is not viable in my opinion, especially in a field that's developing in such weird ways as gender relationships. but i'm not a fan of data to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:18 PM
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im what
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:14 PM
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feminism is the gender mainstream, and females are privileged. prejudice + power = sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:13 PM
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hasta la vista crybaby
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:10 PM
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i thought it was your cool, but you'd know nothing about that, would you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:42 PM
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feminism is peak sexism, thus criticizing it is neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:26 PM
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whats the x about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:24 PM
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taking the time to make the text bold. that'll show how little i care. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:18 PM
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When one reply isn't good enough, three don't make it better. You're obviously part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:09 PM
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But why? It was really eye opening how dangerous they are. Collective conspiracy to emotionally harm for racist and sexist agenda. What the fuck dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:04 PM
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Your chart makes it looks like he peaks at 25
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:02 PM
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Comparing stealing and emotional trauma to only emotional trauma. Wow, why are you this smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:01 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:00 PM
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Yeah, and they are not entitled to me finding them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:00 PM
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They are in the law of homophobic purity paradigm. If you wanna psychogize everything, do it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:58 PM
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Best to lead asia and destroy feminism completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:57 PM
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Yeah, i think it should be pinned
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:53 PM
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Wow nice proof you put there. I think it's rather you that's lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:52 PM
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Why is this removed? That was absolutely fantastic and disgusting the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:50 PM
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I can't
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:47 PM
1

But you put up those from 40 years ago, makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:26 PM
1

Showers are great
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:44 PM
1

Tbh i was hoping of getting a peek on the other side
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:43 PM
2

Imagine having a cancer support group and there's protester inside it holding signs up with "fuck you cancerpatient" written on it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:40 PM
2

Exactly dude, the mango enables a deeper understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:36 PM
1

Nah bro. You need to step out of the blame game, and clean yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:35 PM
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And you could have a +85 iq yet reality is cruel
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:34 PM
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I'm a fat dude you idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:28 PM
2

And then bombed dresden, what a cunt
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:28 PM
1

Thats a typical defensive reaction. You can see it all over animal kingdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:26 PM
0

Exactly the opposite is true. Be vulnerable and learn how to deal with it, move on if she's toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:25 PM
2

It's not difficult. You're just not compassionate because it's too distant for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:24 PM
1

You win a lot by not going black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:21 PM
1

Yeah, i agree it feels good. But i wanna know why. I think it's because there's rage and supremacy in hate, makes you feel powerful. But it isnt cathartic as the tensiom that lead to the rage isn't resolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:20 PM
1

Adolf hitler was a gal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:09 PM
2

One mans trash is another mans treasure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:09 PM
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Dude come on
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:08 PM
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Hate isnt cathartic, it's the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:40 PM
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makeup aside, i see your point there. although it is weird to me, having on one hand people expect you to wear it and on the other people shame you for wearing it is a fucked up situation. OP should refrain from judgement. ​ post tons of filtered, photoshopped images on social media every day. what do you make of this? that is dishonest in my books. and freaking weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:21 PM
2

kinkshaming older men, wow look at you so strong
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:14 PM
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i think killing your child is worse. but i'm weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:08 PM
3

so portraying a distorted reality of your beauty for gains would not fall under dishonest, but rather different honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:06 PM
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i do. you made it sound like you want them different from you. so you agree with OPs point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:01 PM
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you don't want your s.o. to be honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:54 PM
3

don't tell em or they'll make it work
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:45 PM
1

if sex is the biological program, why use a condom?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:27 PM
1

English isn't my native language so i have a good bit of difficulty to decipher what you are saying. male mother need isnt about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:17 PM
1

if the sexbots heat up, people will just hug them to feel less alone
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:09 PM
2

dude, i talk to my cats. i don't understand your second sentence, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:03 PM
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you mean like a doctor in a psychiatric facility?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:02 PM
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mgtow have given me fantastic insight on a concept called "male mother need". makes you understand some deep truths about being a man. but you seem a bit to trigger happy for compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:59 PM
2

thanks, i like your name
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:39 PM
2

what is a roastie
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:38 PM
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i think you're trying to sound as retarded as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:35 PM
5

you're judging them on their perceived value not their real value
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:29 PM
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sometimes they do, see OP, but it's at least frowned upon and a criminal act in most countries
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:27 PM
1

A bus is much bigger and more powerful than your little losercar. Also you form a little Tribe with the buspeople. Once armageddon hits losercar subhumans are having a tough time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:14 PM
5

The more you eat the first thing you grab the worse your diet is. Exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:32 PM
2

Deal with the root of a problem or deal with the consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:51 AM
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Understanding why males harasse females would solve the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:25 AM
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Legally change his name to yours and give him a ring. Pay him some money once a month so he's happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:39 AM
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Why are the comments here so rude?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:35 AM
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Why hate them then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:28 AM
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People are animals with them too. Especially the people who think they are safe from reflecting their behavior because the adhere some kind of dogma.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:47 AM
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if you fuck them they are not beneath you but equal. learn your value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:35 AM
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Statistics from before i was born. Real ground braking argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:11 AM
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Why do you think that's toxic masculinity? For me it is balsaming masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:51 AM
1

What makes you think facts need to be harsh? The edgier the better?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:49 AM
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you make your tone dependent on how the unhappy guys react to it? yeah, i prefer soft tones :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:35 PM
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why are you harsh to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:12 PM
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we are weak because conflict gets suppressed as toxic but it's actually fear. the more conflict i have, the more i see my weakness and can ameliorate why i have bad conflicts and get better in being cooperative. what is pinkpill about, how is it different to here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:26 PM
1

Lt
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:19 PM
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looks as genetics vs looks as power
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:14 PM
1

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:30 PM
1

When you have a point, why be toxic about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:28 PM
1

if you don't love yourself you want the other person to fill that and reassure you. it's difficult to love from that basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:35 PM
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i think i'd just rather take an acurate historical representation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:37 PM
1

so you internalized feminist arguments and use the to find orientation in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:30 PM
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i didn't know you were a feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:27 PM
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you think your peasant female ancestry didn't work their arses of as much as the men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:10 PM
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you know that your ancestry were as much women as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:02 PM
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every attempt to argue pre industrial revolution society with todays norms is destined to be completely wrong. don't think for a moment that 99% humanity had any labor to spare for most of the time. people died of lack of nourishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:00 PM
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feminism is the gender paradigm and every questioning of the paradigm is associated with ostracization
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 12:53 PM
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is she saying he is asking for it with his clothes?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 12:05 PM
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dude, maybe there are feminists that are not radical, but every feminist i talked with or interacted with silenced me to not talk about my feelings. if my male identity and my sexuality is being broken from birth in feminist ideology and i wanna talk about those feelings, without a doubt there comes a point where feminist say: "you are not allowed to say THAT". i am addressing where feminism opposes equality, so they are not silencing me in the name of equality, but in the name of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 12:03 PM
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true, but when the men are trying to voice their feelings things change drastically and they lose their right for a voice. the invitation is as much a powergrab as when politicians invite their voters to voice their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:55 AM
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yeah, me too. it's really disheartening sometimes, because on one hand i feel actively misunderstood and on the other hand i need to overcome being blind myself all the time. it's like balancing being hurt and being open to hurt and recognizing in which state the other person is. i'm sure we'll get there some day, because when it works it feels really fucking great.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:50 AM
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he IS wearing pink
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:28 AM
0

how about the difference in brain chemistry? i remember Robert Sapolsky talking about it in his stanford lectures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:27 AM
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you're misinterpreting me as an enemy. i am not. i am against feminism because its women excluding men from speaking about equality. if you take my criticism as rivalry or as attack you are misunderstanding it from the roots. i am looking at feminism through feminist ideals. it's not holding up. it will die, if we don't change. women for all history had rights men didn't. your perspective of history is skewed because it's female centrist. history changed 250 years ago, and it's changing again fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:10 AM
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as long as feminism doesn't realize to maximize the capabilities of its sons it will be at a disadvantage. for that it needs to transcend its female centrist ideology to an egalitarian one. be the change you wanna see. the paradigm is shifting already.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:04 AM
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if you are for equality (1) men should have the same rights and if you are for equality (2) men should be the ones speaking for their rights. the feminist dream is to have the power to dictate the rights not the actual justice of those rights. feminism says it is for equality but the arguments put forth by feminists are without exception female centrist and don't hold mens interest. feminist objectify men and mens rights. just look at the arguments on wikipedia, why the draft is sexist. no femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:56 AM
2

quantem physics first theorem prove you project your inability to live self-enabled on groups you fear to feel better about your passiveness. the quantem pchysics second theorom proves you won't feel better on the longterm because your not improving your agency
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:40 AM
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what does that have to do with ppd? should i post my thoughts on quantum physics next?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:33 AM
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name on right women have that men don't i did. by your logic a mens right movement is neccessary, feminism is not. this is the consequence of your logic, yet you invent scenarios a women having no rights. women have more rights than men. that's the law. feminism was successful. no we need to make sure men have the same rights as women. then we are equal. at the moment you are part of the oppressing forces for inequality. what is it that you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:23 AM
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registration for draft = restricted vote i would have made myself a criminal if i had done the same as women and would be stripped of my right to vote
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:15 AM
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women are privileged per law, they have rights men don't. men don't have rights women don't have. by your logic a mens rights movement is more necessary than feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:08 AM
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look at that 1850's argumentation suffragette fought against, looks real good on feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:47 AM
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Outside group bad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:10 AM
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How patriarchal of you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:36 AM
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Ah yes finally the right argument why men kill themself 3 times more than women. They just failed the shittest, how stupid of them. 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:35 AM
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But it is a problem of men. Aggression, criminality, ego. The Word however is wrong, it's not toxic, but poisened masculinity. Men need to man up. Realize what it is that makes you a man and stand your ground against people who try to abuse you. Focus on what has poisened your masculinity and find ways to deal with it that make you happy. Don't listen to feminists, because they try to abuse you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:33 AM
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Incorrect. Anonymous comments enable suppressed thoughts. What people want isn't accessible directly. You still dodge the main point: no power and marginalized vs power and mainstream. You sound like a billionaires think tank speach why we need to fight against minimal wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:26 AM
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Two generations from now feminism will die out. A) Feminism is antimother, so in an egalitarian society women will more and more realize that feminism is weakening their position. B) Feminist sons will either rebell against feminism because it's anti-male and become egalitarian or they'll die out because they don't rebell and feminism undermines their sexual competitiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:23 AM
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Feminism is a hategroup. Balancing a female centrist constitution and female centrist laws that have lots of power against some anonymous comment that has no power shows just how dishonst you are and how little you care about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:20 AM
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Dude, i'd love to hear more about your theories. What do you mean with generational markers? I'm both of german and french descent, so my history is crossed from the start. My french grandfather accepted my father in the name of love forgiving the war crimes of the germans. I imagine my father in the middle of this epic battle between death and birth, hate and love and thinking "i just wanna fuck this fine french gal". In the 90s or 00s there were two bestsellers in germany that were highly cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:02 AM
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I thought a threesome is a guy and two women. You got somr siamese twin mixed in there?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:27 AM
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Dude same here. My father once told me he got emotions and thoughts seperated as a youngster. After his stroke he got more emotional, which i personally thought was nice, but he seemed a bit uncomfortable with it. I have a theory about how the big wars made everybody fucked up and now we're starting to get to the essence of fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:23 AM
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Ouch dude, time to go to the police and confess
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:19 AM
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Yeah i am. I have two minutes a day for 5 emotions, making it a whole good 10 minutes per day, 3650 minutes a year. 60 hours of pure emotionality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:02 AM
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Soon to be realized: wifes actually slave owners because they pressure their men to work
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:01 AM
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Have you never been begged for sex? Dude, you just made me realize i'm a rape victim. Who would have known?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:59 AM
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Yes means no, don't you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:45 AM
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What was the pressure exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:42 AM
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Not really my experiance, but i'm pretty emotional myself so maybe i don't realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:16 AM
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Nah, they just need to be funny
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:56 AM
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men are more funny than women, because it's a means to get pussy. by consequence the bearer of pussy can be the only true decider of what is funny. are you retarded or don't you get the evolutionary roots of what humor is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:19 PM
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Your penis don't need the blood, so more for the brain
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:41 PM
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Yeah, i stole it from him, nothing we could do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:23 PM
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Cute, they'd make a great couple
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:03 PM
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some do, some don't all get irritated when objectified. the sooner you realize the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 03:25 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 03:16 PM
2

are you objectifying women so people online aren't mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:59 PM
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when men feel they are being objectified they don't treat you well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:55 PM
2

why would a black pill person attach meaningless to itself? isn't that the point of black pill: i have been objectified and abused, now that i see the truth i am alone and solidarity doesn't exist for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:50 PM
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i might pinpoint you to why, if you're interested
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:47 PM
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yeah, but with her being black pill, wouldn't she think a collective mechanism abuses its individual segments for power?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:29 PM
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why would she be a feminist if she's black pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:24 PM
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i think your daughter will become a lesbian, so no worries
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:51 PM
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You maybe lost your cool, but how did you lose the argument? It would be a first for someone to argue black people arguing against kkk racism to have lost the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:11 PM
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You raging cuz i respond to your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:08 PM
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Sure you can. If you objectify men, don't expect to be treated well, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:23 PM
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Three time intelligence, let her figure out how i get one with equal skill tree
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:16 PM
1

Why don't they eat cake?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:14 PM
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Yeah, i apologize for coming aggressively at you, that was pretty emotional. You want to entertain an idea, but i think it is just pushing the viability of a narrative without any merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:44 AM
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Feminist ideology is 99% a lie, so if it's a valid concern or not is irrelevant from the start. It's not about validity with feminism but about power and any claim of validity need to be shamed immediatly. "Is the the reason bankers take their million dollar bonus from tax payers because they are scared of unemployement."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:23 AM
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Yeah, i know why you wont say for which sex slavery was worse. It is not at all like comparing the holocaust to slavery, where do you get these inapropriate responses? I'm saying that white women are the furthest from getting treated like slaves. There is no single other demographic that has it as good and is as free as white women. no, you wont cash in on the misery and injustice of other people. Signaling some fear in that direction is dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:15 AM
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Read up on history. Males were more slaves than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:01 AM
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Feminism exists to empower women. Putting race into it is projection. Reducing it to fear of being treated as slaves is a misinterpretation of feminism. Just because intersectional feminism tries to ally to blacks doesnt mean they emphasize. Feminists lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:01 AM
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Go fuck yourself and cry some more about people being human
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 10:51 AM
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Your argument is really nicely put and well thought through unfortunately you're wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:51 AM
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I've had a feminist mother and the ideology is meant to destroy sane masculinity. The rage boner comes from seeing evil but being prohibited from fighting it. The moment you get out of the shame cage feminism has built you fight it completely without rage. Feminism will die out, since its male children either fight it or don't procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:46 AM
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Simone de beauvoir is key literature of 2nd wave and it's hundreds of pages why men hat women to make women angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:33 AM
1

we'll talk when the us gets its 300 birthday, youngster
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:25 AM
3

what about the middle of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:02 AM
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i'm the one with the helmet, safety first
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:54 AM
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you mean this post is a loss by being posted?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:53 AM
1

Being proud of your older generation dying, the american dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:35 AM
1

Laughs in adequate corona response
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:00 AM
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Boycotting nuts now, dang
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:27 PM
2

State of the US is concerning from an outside perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:16 PM
1

Need is the contrary to disposability. Like a window to a door.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:59 PM
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How can you know if you aren't even a woman. Doesnt make sense my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:54 PM
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How do you know? Are you a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:14 PM
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Insults are geared towards what you think is the most effective
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:13 PM
3

wasn't that the reasoning in the 50's for racial segregation?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:49 AM
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Feminism has taken care of all gender problems, just accept and let your lineage die out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:54 AM
0

Porn
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:26 AM
1

Good for him
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:22 AM
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Highest murder rate is blacks. "You're just insecure about emasculation" Sorry, got some civilization that i need to uphold.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:15 AM
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Yes, it does. It is about finding a balance between seeking opportunities and eliminating harm. That's what behavior is about. You comparing male insecurity about infedility to a cats insecurity about getting killed by you may very well be because you are insecure about what blame you would feel (harm) But it's stoping you from improving and making good things happen (opportunity)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:55 AM
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Insercourity is a mechanism to stop bad things from happening. If guys are regularly insecure about past lovers of you, maybe you do play a role in why they are insecure. I didn't start the topic. I'm just telling you the frame you're chosing is dishonest. Your cat and your men react to different actions of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:37 AM
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Yeah, the moment you start acting like you wanna kill the cat, the cat will get insecure. No what if you give a man a baby that's from another man? You fulfill the othet ones biological imperative FOR that other man and let your man pay strengthen the biological impetative FOR the other man. Are you really this dense that i need to educate you on why men are jelous?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:10 AM
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Yeah, i think it's some form of misguided need for qualification in front of women. "Look how strong i am, mommy"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:06 AM
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My success rate for getting my dick sucked from mgtow is zero
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:21 PM
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You're basically begging them to suck your cock, i don't even know whats going on here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:57 PM
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I see, i love american inside jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:37 PM
1

Don't know if that makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:33 PM
1

Alphas lead women to the unemployement centre
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:27 PM
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You're laughing at your screen when they do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:25 PM
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Complaining about mgtow is beta as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:25 PM
1

that's a sound wrong claim
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:27 PM
-1

damn, thanks for this post. made me realize how ridiculous i sound when i'm helpless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:13 PM
0

What do you think fucking is for?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:43 AM
1

I guess the difficulty is understanding where they were wrong and where they were right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:59 AM
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Not a single word about porn. Such an unbiased perspective, wow. Actually pretending being fit is unrealistic. I'm sorry dude, that's just pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:55 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:49 PM
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Wrong. Facts don't care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:31 PM
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It was an incorrect action and was revoked
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:50 PM
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You cant endthread your own comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:29 PM
1

A table too seems to be a better companion by your superb logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:24 PM
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You fuck your cat? Men are insecure because the baby women carry and birth is what a man needs to provide for for the next two decades. The cat has no risk. The man has.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:22 PM
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I agree. But hate isnt a choice for me, but an indicator of wrong. Without righting the wrong, is it possible to overcome the mistakes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:03 PM
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I don't like the form you want to give it because it's worse than now. You equate killing innocents with being polite and go on absurd highhorse tirades. Thats bad thinking, bad feeling. Rethink and refeel and people will follow. But not this miscarriage of an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:58 PM
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If you have an obligation to work towards society why make a destructive post and not a constructive one? If you don't like nihilism, it be a great first step to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:51 PM
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You didnt have the obligation to make this post. Yet you had the wealth to enable you to. Truly sad times. I wish i were back in times where i die from bad teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:40 PM
1

I do Not about this post however
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:31 PM
7

This. Funny people are known to be unpopular. People hate laughing and enjoying their company so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:59 AM
1

Try eating half a carrot and two semame seeds before showering. It just works, you're a little less hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:56 AM
1

Yeah, that's fucked up. I would think it makes you hate him though. It took me over ten years to understand that feminism was actually detrimental to my psyche. Then another five years to figure out the workings and stand my ground against - well myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:28 AM
1

Do you think that's realistic? It seems to me one key element is having the means to give people something they don't have. Money would play a huge part in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:26 AM
1

allright, i didn't know of Radicalizing the romanceless and i read it. i love the way he writes, entertaining. in my opinion putting the argument in the cognitive realm doesn't do it the right it needs. the article and your way of putting it make it seem like the problem is to be solved in discourse about it. (again in my opinion) the problem lies in the inability to process and heal the hurt these men (which i belonged to, too) endure. i don't think that fairness is really the problem, but abus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:58 PM
1

i feel we could get quicker to some valuable information, if we knew what is the point we're arguing around is it how to make sexually frustrated men are better place in society? is it enlightening covert gender dependencies? how a balanced position deroded to an unbalanced one (male>female) to an even more unbalanced one (female<male)? making the steelman to rapelaws vs male interest is such an uninformed argument (imo) that could be expressed much better in another way. i don't feel arguing ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:56 PM
2

yeah, i agree but that isn't for me a question for "why do you even care?" but "what do you actually care for?" part of the social consensus is for many men to have restricted access to their emotions and especially sexual emotions socially. sure they can jerk off, but male sexuality is highly shamed and made bad, that many men just think there's the emotion - any way to get it done. they never get in depth, because sexuality is closely linked to many other social things like status and the ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:42 PM
1

where do you want that argument go between us? i am a bit unsure how to react to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:34 PM
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yes i agree. i thought you were arguing for that perspective. i think unhappy men overstate how many men are that unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:21 PM
2

caring and showing your care, trying to make other care is exactly this: changing the consensus and getting a better deal. i'm just answering your question why people care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:15 PM
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what do you mean they get nothing? how would men thrive without society? every public system is of benefit for males, education, transport, trade, shelter. do you think it would be better in chaos?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:10 PM
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law is a deal society makes with all people it's not "antirape law" vs "fulfilled sexuality". it would more be womens rights to standard safety vs fulfilled sexuality. in your thinking, do you think bodily harm against males would get lawfull, too, with making rape lawfull?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:09 PM
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female clothes have been pretty restricted till mid 20th century, just think of the Victorian Age fashion male behavior towards women have also been normativly restricted since mid 20th century, '68 onwards female fashion got more and more sexually loaded and male behavior has been loosened. since a good decade, male behavior has been restricted again. from the 50s 90s sexuality would not have been thinkable and now starts to get unthinkable again. but female sexuality is as sexually loaded as b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:05 PM
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People care because there's morals and they supress parts of themself for an ideal greater good. The moment other people are smuggling in new morals but keeping your sexuality restricted you care, because there's still penalty for your restrictions but they got free.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:48 PM
2

So there's only the anti-rape law? Don't you understand how laws work and what you do get in return? Rape laws aren't a deal. They are part of civil protection from harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:46 PM
1

I'm thinking about a time thats far far back before capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:43 PM
1

well that's where we disagree the hammer doesn't need help taking off. it just does, because the benefits are so immense, everybody copies it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:26 PM
3

uh yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 12:35 PM
1

Care to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:45 AM
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Feminist mother, feminist environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:39 AM
3

it really is natures perverse sense of humor that Karen and caring are so close phonetically
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:07 AM
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can't say, but hated my own gender for some time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:05 AM
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it isn't legalized slavery?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:03 AM
1

your explanation is certainly true for some cases. certainly true for later technologies with a lot of investment necessary. but just as viable, is that the first and best technologies were stolen from people who invented them because the value was so immense. as is entirely possible that a person just got to be tribes-leader, because his invention was so powerful his tribe got a huge advantage. but let's go from the other side: how many technologies have appeared without anyone inventing it? ze…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:18 AM
1

so, which advertisement did the hammer need? which one the wheel? which one the cup?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:02 AM
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so you don't understand it and assume it's wrong, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:57 AM
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oh so you agree with me, that moral and wealth don't work on the same dimension?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:44 AM
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you claiming without any evidence advertisement is as important as technology and me questioning that is equivalent to someone claiming the sky is green? you sure you got that right? cuz i don't know if it actually works in your favor i think your rhetorical technique could use some work bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:43 AM
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i have the feeling you think in terms and times of the last 100 - 200 years but instead of making an argument, you attack me as incompetent, nice social intelligence. i see how you would fall for social intelligence being more important for society than the technology itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:28 AM
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you're smuggling in that social intelligence is responsible for those out of the three only implementation on a large scale is the valuable point. marketing and funding both work to make the large scale happen. most inventions we call ground braking don't need either marketing nor funding. they maybe profit from this, but i don't see any necessity for it. and i argue that the actual invention is so powerful that the intelligence to make it accessible is only valuable in some cases. the intellige…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:14 AM
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Exactly That doesnt mean social intelligence is responsible for what social intelligence is used to claim
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 08:50 AM
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Well fair enough. I don't think anecdotal evidence counts for much, but i was born in a poor good hearted class, so i surely know less about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 08:40 AM
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I think you're falling a bit for leadership propaganda, which is part of good leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 08:38 AM
2

That's great to hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 08:32 AM
2

So you two talked about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 08:21 AM
1

What does your husband think about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 08:08 AM
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Is going to walmart supporting slavery?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 08:08 AM
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Yes, that sounds sound. It gets clearer that both the social and object oriented intelligence need interaction to develop ground braking potential. Who knows how many inventions and tools have been lost because they missed the social engraining. I wanna pitch you an idea, tell me what you think about it. I have this theory that dogs may have been a key element to start civilization. 1) seeing them go from wild to domesticated makes a schema for humans to follow 2) guarding the crops, allowing wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:42 AM
1

I think that's the same nice/bad guy fallacy in regards to guys being successfull with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:18 AM
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I agree. I think in understanding how others feel, acting to help their needs be met cant be overstated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:53 AM
1

I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:50 AM
1

I agree, i don't understand whats the argument regarding the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:49 AM
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No, by being competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:47 AM
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Oh yeah, she got some weird ones
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:45 AM
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Led, not advanced
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:44 AM
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I love that way of argumentation! What if the capabilities we develop in comminicating with others made it possible for the concept of tools to develop. I can very well see this have happened. Language surely is one of the first tools we develop, maybe it was some form of prototyp for every other to follow?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:40 AM
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Nah, i think there more to it. Empathy is a part, though. What about convincing people? What about story tellers? Charismatic people? Tough love from parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 08:14 PM
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Why would i make a child if i didnt?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 08:07 PM
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common tropes are advertisements for their heroes. of course "the muscle" isn't one of them. we have different ideas of high social intelligence. for me it is not some master brain, but someone who recognizes the needs of his surroundings and helps them get fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 07:59 PM
2

you think men don't love their children, either?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 07:33 PM
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yeah, i'm a bit of a bad boy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 07:32 PM
2

yeah, really
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 07:00 PM
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allright, i don't know anymore if you're shitposting or for real
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 07:00 PM
1

what's his best one?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 06:36 PM
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i think his other work that's advertised on the cover would be great choice for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 06:34 PM
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sorry, i misunderstood you, AGAIN i don't think you can disclose your thoughts as gut feeling, even though they might resemble
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 06:06 PM
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i think being the strongest had to do with being a leader, too. i see the argument of increased value of social capabilities vs brute force. putting it on the same pedestal as technological advancements though, i disagree. otherwise every tribe or family unit would have somehow kickstarted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 06:02 PM
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sorry, i misunderstood you i do not think your method of searching meaning in your poo works well. you should stick to searching it in coffee, like the turks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:59 PM
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A simple no would be more communicative than this weird obsession with excrements.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:52 PM
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Same here, but appealing to women. Trying to be real clear now what is healthy for me and what not. Trying to find people who dont want me to appeal to them, maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:48 PM
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There psychological truth to what you say, i would differ emotions from feeling more carefully though. Thinking works in either/or, feeling is the ability to make sense of information that are too vaste to consciously pick up everything. When you check body language there's hundreds of cues and when you feel something ticking off, when it didnt feel right, there's something you can't quite put, but it went wrong. Or you can call that intuition, judging without consciousness. That's a great abili…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:45 PM
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Do you think the gut feeling isnt a real thing? Men have it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:40 PM
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Oh ok I'm a foreigner so i don't catch all the language cues
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:26 PM
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What do you think kickstarted civilization? Humans have lived for hundreds of thousends of years without it. There's many technological arguments that are taken for attributing to societies. I never heard of the "social intelligence" argument, and i'd love to hear what is different in humans social intelligence between the years -20000, - 8000, 0 and 2020
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:25 PM
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That's a "selfportrait" called monster by maria lassnig. Do you like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:20 PM
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Do you think your way of answering is socially intelligent? I just feel you're attacking me and trying to belittle me, while i try to argue honestly. I may be wrong about the semantics, but i think that's the core of social intelligence: trying to empower people not bring them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 04:35 PM
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Do you care to make your claim an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 04:27 PM
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Showing huge social intelligence by insulting people who question your beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 04:25 PM
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I'd love to see how far social intelligence would go without the tools we have to feed our bellies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 03:41 PM
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Social intelligence is more important with women, but claiming it has done as much for advancement of civilization is as much a superiority complex as you accuse others of having. Having a good laugh about it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 03:28 PM
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What are you talking about? Men invest in women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 01:52 PM
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a rich man's world can be just or unjust it projects the idea that the desire for men to be rich is a bad thing and that those men do bad things. i don't think is true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 10:37 AM
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False dichotomy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 08:16 AM
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SAHM or SAHF shouldnt be shamed, the concept of it shouldnt be shunned as backwards. People who like it should be encouraged to do it. To portray it as a role of an employee of the working part is a capitalistic view of it that will die out with the system dying, possibly even because of it. Being a parent is not a job. I'm not saying it's less work, or less frustrating. Children are not a product. It should be rewarded as it is highly beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:30 AM
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Interesting you think that was my point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 04:42 AM
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I think in the end it's the standard technique of maximizing + and minimizing -, with preactions of finding ways to prepare + and heal -. Maybe trying to be honest about what is + instead of misunderstanding retaliation of - as + is to most difficult part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:33 PM
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loving sth doesn't mean blinding yourself to negative or unpleasant aspects of. i am missing what point you are making.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:43 AM
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Anecdotal evidence vs anecdotal evidence of friends who say they love it. I mean they could be lying, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:17 AM
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1) which male archetype does hollywood actually portray? Is it a healthy mindset or a serving mindset? What do the superheros actually do and what does this mean for the standard male? 2) video games do not contribute to a healthy life. How many happy people play them and how many bottom men play them? Them being marketed for men is a method for men to not question the anti-male society standards. 3) look at the method, it's explicit self-worth, lol. That doesnt say anything about the real self-…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:37 AM
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Thanks Styles and behavior making you horny but letting you unfullfilled, even numbed and desentisized to subtle beauty
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:18 AM
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I think health is to beauty what nutritians are to delicious taste
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:59 AM
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I havnt
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:14 AM
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No need to be rude What's that got to do with stealing? Cheating is portraying and acting a different outside than inside. It's making your body act a way your mind doesnt want to but for a benefit. If you don't feel bad, you can do it. I wonder how little connection or self-perception you got to not feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 07:47 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:19 PM
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The brain is incredible plastic for the telencephalon. Attraction is an emotional function, doesn't go up there. How do you know your examples of different "styles" has actually a cultural root? May very well be a cultural reaction to biogical needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:18 PM
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I am no expert, but there's a lot going on with hormonial developement and scull developement. A second thought is, that you are viewing it from todays perspective where very little physical conflicts happen. A disfigured face may have been an indicator of lost fights, as you see in animal kingdoms. In your OP you say "our society have given a hierarchy of beauty" while i think that our society has formed around the biological hierarchy. Who is at the root of action is important, since we can ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 02:40 PM
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what makes you think attractiveness is an illusion and not a viable detector? health is a key component to attractiveness, i believe i heard symmetry is connected to genetics. you seem to make a case for cultural beauty imposing on biological beauty. what makes you think that? it's not a concept, but a reality. we named or conceptualized that reality as beauty. but the reality of it is more basic than the term, or the cultural dingdong we make about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:38 PM
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Incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:50 AM
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Dude, exactly the same here on my side. After years of fighting about it, i wonder "have i stared too long in the abysse and have become what i despise"? I think there's real danger of getting caught in an unhealthy mindset, black and white, opressed, that keeps you down in feelings of disempowerment that search for a cementation of that feelings. How do you get to a healthy mindset when you're caught in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:45 AM
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Whats up with this feminist style kneejerk reaction to everything here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:21 AM
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Replacing women with a closed system i can obsess about has done so much good to my mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:31 AM
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i love words dude, they tell so much
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 07:43 PM
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my general idea from hardness not being a bad thing but a quality of the scale from too easy to too hard roots from the flow theory where effort is needed as a basic coefficient of that state, which by most people is described as intensely good. there are many more coefficients though and i share your scepticizm about it being beneficial in all cases, but i think there is something universal to it, that gets lost in having it hard = victim. i don't even want to make a biological sex case, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 07:41 PM
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your arguments seem to be more based on emotions than logic, wordchoices and such
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 07:20 PM
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why reduce sexuality to cock? cock only grows in sexual judgement, making it purely emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:27 PM
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What's the developement of your emotional state.during that post?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:21 PM
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That's what he's saying though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:15 PM
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I disagree with your first argument. From a different perspective it can be said men can develop their talent but women get reduced to tits regardless of talent. How does oppression determine hierarchy? I agree it's harmful, but i also say it's incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:59 PM
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As you mention science to eluminate the problem i'll try my limited knowledge about motivation to make my point to one half and agree with you to another half. Motivational (life goals from the perspective of emotion) status quo (that i know of) is to divide motifs into two by two categories: motifs to act (power and succes) and motifs to be (freedom and relationships). There is a second theory that's coming from how we learn, and that's about when we learn most and best which leads to success. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:55 PM
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yes, it is. i wonder how much lose in comparison to how much win, what the actual risk/reward could be. 1% would already be pretty high for highest reward, but i guess top 5% still would be pretty nice. i don't know, what's your thoughts about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:03 PM
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how do you compare the losers with the winners? where do you get the information that the loser count is higher than the winner count?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:51 PM
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i wasn't responding to his question, actually i think listing the losers fate of a gender without the winners fate is a bad argument i don't think your questions get to the answer which gender has it harder. to be frank, i don't even know the answer. i don't even know what top level life achievements are for each group and i don't think it is a thing you know, and one that you can't define correctly. psychological research shows that motivational disclosure is irrelevant in most people, around 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:47 PM
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Almost all richest persons are men Basically all historical relevant persons are men Biggest losers are men, too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:35 PM
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i am not sure what you think my point is, but yes, it is power
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:42 AM
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look at actions not words of the male and the female
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:16 AM
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Men on the wide of society do seem to get more highest rewards. What do you think about tha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:41 AM
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Women are better at gathering audience, that's why they're more successfull.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:18 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 08:31 AM
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What do you think about risk/reward?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 08:30 AM
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Yes it is sarcasm You including social media followers but not how successfull you can be in sports shows how selective you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 08:03 AM
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Biggest channels are men, do women have it harder because of this? You're making things up to feel bad, honestly i just fail to understand. The moment you get no oppression points, why linger on the the stuff that makes you feel weak?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 08:01 AM
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yeah, me having less followers on social media really puts into perspective how hard my life is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 07:06 AM
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Opposite of my experiance
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:36 AM
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Why would you call it TM then, if you change the basic meaning of it? Lol, your first example is how pussy is shaping TM.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:11 AM
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Good ol' Cornflake Jackson
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:58 AM
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You know like in the movie
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:57 AM
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I'd even say 100% The moment power desocializes, it is just force or strenght.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:35 AM
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So you agree they have power?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:25 AM
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Did you start slowly and then got quicker?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:23 AM
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Does cornflake jackson still have his feathered hat?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:20 AM
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"women happily initiate contact with far more than just the top 20%" What? I never even heard of them initiating contact with the top 20%?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:09 AM
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You an investigative journalist?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:02 AM
1

r/politics?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:51 PM
1

Ever thought about that you just know them because they are famous? All the world is fucking and you say "well i know only of the famous, so fame must be a factor"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:48 PM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:25 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:24 PM
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You think that jail guy you linked wasnt good looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:13 PM
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i think i'm missing out on your argument then just get beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:58 PM
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how so? you don't need to cooperate if the person is distrustful. you check -> in the garbage bin with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:57 PM
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hello friend. yes, some people are. some people try very hard to be respectful and nice. it is an art of its own to not get drawn in to negativity some times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:38 PM
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i have
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:30 PM
0

you saying nice guys aren't successful with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:29 PM
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either/or thinking means your blocking the way from ego to self
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:55 PM
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so are stoves, whats your point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:54 PM
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yes is only one word
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 03:17 PM
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yes always hated my gfs wearing makeup, made them look like clowns
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 03:11 PM
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it's called the soul
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 02:44 PM
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i always thought utilitarianism to be a philosophy that was thought to be "workable". isn't choosing two realities out of all possibilities perverting the idea behind it? that could lead to the rationalization of murder: between killing two men and killing one man, killing one man is a more moral utilitarian mode. yes, but that's not the point. in my feeling it goes straight against the ideology to make an "which of these two alternatives is best" question instead of "which way would be the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:47 PM
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ok, i understand the argument now i think op is making up a false either/or situation to not confront his fear of rejection i don't care for a hypothetical counterargument to reason yourself to passiveness. there's ways to ask out many and be good in an utilitarian sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:30 PM
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i don't understand your point why would approaching someone be the least moral thing to do? your assumption is not correct because it has too many variables adding to the initial claim. (randomly, in public)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:15 PM
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making your action dependent from what women do, best way to spiral to disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:05 PM
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there's three characteristics relevant for me 1) dead end / mindnumbing - sorry, don't care for a person just being a workslave 2) exhausting / no time - don't care to date a lawyer that's working 60 hours a week 3) ethical - abusing people or system
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:33 AM
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you claim family is female projection and shaming tactics. you care to explain how you come to this idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:10 AM
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imagine being this far down the rabbit hole you think familial love is a female exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:06 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:04 AM
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losers grow old alone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:57 AM
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touched a nerve there, huh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:57 AM
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i disagree i mean that's basically what all mythology of good and evil is about, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:56 AM
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it was a good starting point ten years ago and things get better. family dynamics are rooting pretty deep though, and part of it is just accepting everybody has their special form to express love. and finding a balance between trying hard enough and keeping enough energy to have your own life in order. idk man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:40 AM
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well, i'll be happy if they are with me in their thoughts and feelings at least. not that i plan for it to just happen on it own. i hope that how much interest you take in your surroundings and how willing you are to sacrifice for their good does take me closer to it. dude, i'm still figuring this out. i'm lost, but the steps in the right direction feel less lost and meaning gets graspable. faking my way through things made things worse, trying to be honest better even when i fail. man, that kea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:31 AM
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you sure you are not rationalizing there? not asking someone out because it might make them uncomfortable sounds like a reason to not overcome your fear of rejection. just learn how to ask them out comfortably and everyone wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:15 AM
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fake is the person, that distorts the image of what is real about him well, i've never died, so all i say i more hope than reality. i hope that as i connect with my surroundings, my family, my grandchildren will be at my side when i die and my love for them continues to live even when i am rotting material.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:12 AM
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When's the last time you heard a fake person say they cheat because it feels so good? Cheating loses you connection to yourself and others, thus you are alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:05 AM
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Lol cheaters are losers that die alone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:02 AM
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Nah, i'd rather shame people for being fake fucks, men as women. Get your shit together and stop undermining basic human decency you con artists
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 09:51 AM
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I think we're pretty much on the same page, i'm still trying to grasp overlooked implications. One thing i always thought was obvious what the eastern european stereotype seemed to want is a woman that gets them emotional, that gets them in full blown steam mode. Gets them to prove their masculinity. The obedient woman can't be further from the truth, it seems more like they want a fury that they can make more or less obedient. Right after her being sexy and beautiful of course. Yeah, agree on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:24 AM
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My bad, my native language uses sensibility for sensitivity. Would you be the prefered type for the stereotypical eastern european? A good chunk of men being sensitive use this not only as an attractor but as a filter for the special type of women they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:41 AM
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Less need for sensibilty in your partner than for women who want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:30 AM
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Any "use" of sensible or assertive mind without it being situational is doomed to fail in the long run, not only with women but every social aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:06 AM
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You got kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:05 AM
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To be honest that guy does sound shady as fuck personally attacking the people responding to him
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:58 AM
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Same with women. If she thinks like a primate, treat her like primate, am i right? Nothing bad is known to come of wide assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:50 AM
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I guess it depends in which social circles you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:40 AM
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Asking for insight then insulting the people investing time into you From the outside the reason why friends are cockblocking you clear up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:32 AM
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Your group of friends sounds like losers If you prevent a friend from something she wants because you're cheap you are a bad friend If you help you're friend out of something they don't want you're a good friend, but you're making the cheap argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:29 AM
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Because you raise your child. Most people love that. Seeing them grow, learn to walk, to speak. Children are beautiful. If you don't like, find someone who likes it, there's enough people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:53 AM
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It is beneficial to him, it is not outsoucing It is beneficial to her as well Are you trying to misunderstand me?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:28 AM
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yeah, that's my argument from the start a boss-employe frame is retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:16 PM
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it is normal to be disgusted by sexuality because of std female sexuality gets "cleaned" and propped up because money you can make advertising to male sex drive men are disgusted with real life female sex because admitting female sex isn't holy means admitting millenia of indoctrination to be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:06 PM
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yes, confident women are 200% more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:37 PM
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caring so much that you laugh at peoples shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:31 PM
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don't even know what that means
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:46 PM
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just be yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:31 PM
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i bet they're sucking them off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:15 PM
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Thats a lousy q&a honestly, there arent even any microfones
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:07 PM
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When is the q&a?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:31 PM
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i agree. i'm not even sure self-worth can really be separated from value completely. i'm not sure how much transactional value is projected in relationships. OPs question could easily be reformulated from the opposite perspective: is it manipulation to "lure" people into a relationship through various acts without disclosing your intention?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:15 PM
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allright! personally i think that has more to do with a self-worth kinda thing. there are high status people with no self-worth and do things like mentally ill people to get whatever they think they are getting. as there are low value people with completely normal self-worth that are looking very careful for a balanced dynamic with low value or high value people. what do you think about that distinction?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:52 PM
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i looked up our conversation till here, and i think i understand where you're coming from as long as the person feels the motivation (be it through value-difference, infatuation, whatever) to please another there's little or no deceiving necessary to get them do pretty much everything. do i get that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:38 PM
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yeah, i forgot about steve. you win.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:29 PM
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because i am not accepting everybody has the high value of brad pitt i am arguing in bad faith? high value is a bit more of a constant than infatuation and projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:26 PM
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i propose a viable alternative to mind reading: talking
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:11 PM
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ah yes, we're everyone brad pitt now, my value magically blows through the roof
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:05 PM
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just like i never made claim you should read minds
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:02 PM
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you're claiming it's impossible to just get a feel for the situation and make your best guess. if your best guess is wrong the person will correct you - no harm if your best guess is right the situation gets clear ​ both are not deceitful making your worst guess because it's better for you is deceitful
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:56 PM
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incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:45 PM
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it's not a good sign when your argument needs an extreme example to work best for most of the population you are neither so high nor so low value that this hypothetic is working
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:41 PM
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i'm just quoting you word for word.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:39 PM
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i'm not the one claiming you can manipulate the person as long as they don't know it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:32 PM
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i know, you don't seem to understand basic language. you could try a little harder, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:28 PM
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what interest would high value person have in such a low value person? i can't shake the feeling you equate value with self-worth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:27 PM
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do you know what claims are?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:24 PM
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YOU made it a binary situation where you’re either a lying by not disclosing every possibility, or you are truthful. where did i say that word by word? Nobody goes around disclosing weird dealbreakers at a bar and before sex. you think that's what OP was talking about? is it normal for your ONS to first cook for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:11 PM
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Dude, do whatever you like. I never even mentioned the word lying till the 4th post in. If you feel you deceive the person, deceive them, but don't tell yourself you're not. OP is obviously not talking about hook ups or ONS. What do you accomplish strawmanning your way through this argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:04 PM
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You're making this an either/or, a binary situation where it definetly isn't. Just to list some examples: There's clear cut lying. There's omitting details that are norm to not omit, extreme abnormalities. There's a middle ground region where most people at least raise an eyebrow, but some people are fine with it some aren't. There's special interest, that people generally don't disclose but when you hear the other person communicating dislike you know you have to disclose. There's not knowing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:39 PM
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Who did pretend you didn't mention this? You just seem to understate it and that's why almost everybody says: yeah, there's no need to dig deeper here, that's the reason. You're making arguments that aren't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:29 PM
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Everyone that disagrees with you is a troll sure. "It's minus 30 degrees, why are there no cute boys at the Swimmingpool???"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:47 AM
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i'm sure being rude will improve your communication with people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:41 AM
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pretty much agree with the framework i see morals as a learning process. i look at how my actions make me feel, and if i feel something icky or jucky in me, i think about how that feeling comes to place and why i feel this special sort of bad. it does sometimes take some time of me rationalizing around it, not gonna lie. sometimes i only know it later, i understand the other side to be hurt too late and then i feel guilt or shame, because i did wrong. i try to make it right. but i respond very l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:28 AM
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again, as a human you have psychological mechanism to disclose or not disclose relevant information. you feel it. if you wanna rationalize manipulation, i don't care. don't pretend you don't know the difference though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:15 AM
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that's the difference for me. manipulation is the effort (how small it may be) to alter the behavior or experience of the other person (to your benefit). there's a more important question however: which manipulation is morally good and which is morally wrong. actively encouraging someone is manipulation, but a morally good one. the manipulation most people have a problem with, is objectifying, using other people as means to your benefit. longterm this behavior undermines trust, that's the reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:13 AM
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if you would say what you think and feel would the person still do what they do, or would they behave differently? do you hold back information that you know would change that persons mind and actions because you think you get a benefit from withholding?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:03 AM
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you tell that to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:00 AM
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is the person doing something they wouldn't if you disclosed an only to you known information? you let the key component unmentioned: do you deceive the person or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:55 AM
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Its her kids An employer doesnt pay you for what benefits you but him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:49 AM
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With the same logic you could say she is his boss. If she cooks and clean he is the servant to bring the money neccessary, but she organizes it. He does the basic work which fruits she uses to do hers. In a workplace relationship that would make her the boss. Since she gets money he works for she is profiting from his work, again, sign of a boss-worker relationship. It is delusional to allude men get violent for non fulfillment of arbitrary standards. You arguing debts worsening the situations i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:06 AM
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half the comments telling you the same thing, but i'm missing the point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:11 AM
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But somehow failed to draw the conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:19 AM
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Dude, no sexual interest, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:25 AM
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You have some place in your tough guy crew?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:16 AM
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Men arent aware of their nature
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:51 AM
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What do you mean in reverse? I think you misunderstood projecting on behavior as imitating. Seeking succes through relationships is the same as seeking freedom in success. That's motivational nonsense. I disagree with your proposition of an ideal male dating strategy. I think it touches exactly the key problem i talked in OP. Happiness isn't a result of maximizing but balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:27 AM
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Expectations aren't a result we chose. I don't understand your point. Why does biology make it that the expectations are wrong? I don't see the benefit. There is a relational function in the expectation. If this is broken, a cultural explanation is needed if you don't have a biological one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:12 AM
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That would also mean men are always looking to move albeit half as quick. You think that's true?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:18 PM
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Magnificant explanation truly mindopening
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:12 PM
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hahaha, i get it now. i guess that's part of the culture. seems you found a missing status symbol to be an indicator of good self worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:48 PM
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i think there's an absolute and a relative component to expectations. for example security: there's heartrate, hormones, feeling that indicate if your feeling secure or not, and the general feeling would relate to that. if every where else it's the Armageddon you are content with a good bit of heartrate. what benefit would unrealistic expectations have?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:46 PM
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wouldn't they be successful then? like different strokes for different folks? the same is often said about contemporary pop-music, "who even likes that?" but apparently a lot of people listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:30 PM
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as would a man projecting on optimized hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:19 PM
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is it? it would mean the ability to attract is dependent on the ability to be lovable. it would mean your closed belief on how to be loved is making you unattractive. it would mean a cripple with no status could be a chad if he found out how to be lovable for who he is - a chad. is that what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:06 PM
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what? that wasn't a rant. it's a solvable function and he proposed the variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:03 PM
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you might be seeing things backwards what if those men that get loved for who they are, are the chads
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:42 PM
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what would that be? only thing i can think of is drugs, which would be the materialization of degeneracy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:21 PM
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is it you they want to attract?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:14 PM
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you're judging lifes choices by what feminist accord, huh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:09 PM
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because it feels bad for it to get disadvantageous you're going down a vicious cycle where bad emotions slowly accumulate and good emotions decrease
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:07 PM
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isnt degenerate just acting on emotions till it gets disadvantageous?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:53 PM
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yeah, hate buying my $1500 sandwhiches from my $95k income
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:47 PM
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slip in like on a summer breeze in some mokkasins?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:39 PM
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No Well known examples of that effect, that you felt was true from the beginning but never backed up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:17 PM
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Ah ok. We're getting back there, i think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:16 PM
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I see Still not sure what to think about initiation ceremonies. There are some that just sound gruesome. Also not convinced on the pedophilic aspect of hellenian mentorship, thats creeping me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:03 PM
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I think we still have that. Sports, music, generally hobbies. Or do you mean sth different?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:56 PM
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Well known, is that one of your claims based on feeling again?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:54 PM
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You mean an ampute, or a hemiaplegic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:53 PM
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dude, that's absolutely beautiful. i love how you've woven your own story into the theoretical/psychological framework. congrats on finding your way. ​ When you are a little boy feminist attitudes can be very appealing because they ensure that the world is being fair to you. i'd rather say they promise. that was such an intense and painful realization for me that i believed so strongly in solidarity which i always held up. so as you said at some point you realize that's the wrong idea of the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:05 PM
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celebrities currency is drama
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:14 PM
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yeah, there's always more to the stories. there is a reason people prefer certain ideologies. i don't think healthy- and strongminded people would propose a collective and stereotypical narrative if they had the capability to look at things how they are, messy. the theory however does make sense, imo. i talked to a lot of feminists and the inability to see the critic for what it is but to get defensive is archetypical. edit: love the term pinging back
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 01:49 PM
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there's a lot of guys. it's such a difficult topic because feminism has good and helpful ideas right next to the most toxic shit. for me the biggest problem was and is the shame and guilt of rejecting it. i confronted my mother 4 years ago and it's the tiniest steps on at a time because i am scared for being a horrible person and the greatest scum for rejecting it. if you wanna talk about it, i'd love to hear your story
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 01:36 PM
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i don't think it's being hurtful intentionally, but that a understanding gender under an oppressor - oppressed dynamic just fucks a boys brain. there's a lot of subtext to feminism that's all about power and a boy is powerless. great for stepping in. it's a weird thing how hurt people do ugly things and need compassion to get better. but often times that's what we don't wanna do. what do you mean by pinging back to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 01:33 PM
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yes agree why are women mad men formed society to substain them, samely inexplicable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 01:06 PM
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the samplesize of celebrity women that i know personally is not really huge, so i can't even agree or disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 01:04 PM
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fair enough, i don't know all incels speaking from personal experience the feminist framework fucked my masculine identity big time and i needed 10 years of intensive self reflexion to figure that even out, not even to solve it. when the simple existence of male sexuality is shamed, the incel bell rings. but dude, that horrible story from that guy whose mom died slowly. from the outside it seems like there are a few steps from "confusion and fear because mother is dying" (which seems pretty huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 01:03 PM
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if she keeps herself healthy that's the key point i don't care how she manages for me to find her attractive. why would i need a cognitive framework for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 11:12 AM
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so its just your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 10:55 AM
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do you have some data or some other insight to give this claim some substance? i don't want to dismiss what sounds illogical to me, because i just don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 10:45 AM
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you sure that's the reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 10:37 AM
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in your theory she can't because she needs to go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 10:37 AM
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how is your husband all these three things? the classical concept of a SAHM is specifically to be the boss of home. if you at older laws about the rights and privileges of wife and husband both had balanced parts to contribute to it working. you can argue that not having these laws is better, but to present it like the SAHM is somehow close to a slave isn't close to reality, imo. today things are different, but he can't leave you without taking a financial hit either, in fact his hit is even big…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 10:36 AM
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Who would the best women date then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 09:34 AM
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Oh i read his post completely different. In my opinion he is arguing for an revisiting of the status quo. The sahm has a bad rep and he askes: if men are willing and women would profit, why the bad status? What am i misreading in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:02 AM
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Care to elaborate? Cuz personally i don't see that in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:57 AM
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The way you talk about SAHM, as a thing you hate doing. My guess is that some people hate corporate work just the same way, and as you propose women didn't have the choice before opening to markets they do not have now and never had. For them the idea to care for loved ones is the ideal lifework, but they need to feed big corporate. I'd rather argue that SAHM may be a good role (for those who like it) in the moment but our understanding of the longterm benefits are uneconomical. In a economical …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:22 AM
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Making memes about karens is a gender discourse in 2020, magnificant times
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:06 AM
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My hypothesis is that every incel is raised in a feminist household and can't break free from the ideology that makes him passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:03 AM
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It is a miracle Any reason i don't know why it's special for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:34 AM
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I don't think 50/50 is fair Father rights and alimony are asymmetrical
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:33 AM
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Just shitposting, sorry, a bad play on words
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:13 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:12 PM
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I mean i never once heard a woman tell me she might not make birth
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:48 PM
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Yeah, now that i think of it, death at birth was a thing to worry before modern medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:25 PM
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His boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:23 PM
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Interesting, how little i know. Birth somehow does hold all our mysteries. This is the basic biological mechanism, developed for such a long time, both ancient and modern.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:23 PM
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thank you for your service
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:06 PM
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i have not. i have however read that women who have children have a longer life expectancy. i am not saying a pregnancy or many pregnancies have straining effects on the mothers body. to say she gets destroyed by it seems either completely anti-mother or soaking of a victim mentality. edit: and dude, i'd love to learn about it, link me up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:04 PM
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mommy makeover i looked it up, in understand now. but what about the value of bringing the child to society? without solving this riddle, we'll get stuck somewhere on the way. law so you are arguing for an alternative to the law? bringing up the law is as little helping as bringing up every other structure the problem is woven in. if bringing up the law isn't viable, why would bringing up economy, status, health be viable? me bringing up the law is my first argument. my fear to not get massively…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:50 PM
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i like non-compensation solutions, because they are not pushing a non-financial reality to be solved with money, which is a bad way to go. unfortunately i don't understand your solution. can you reformulate so i understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:27 PM
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one has sacrifices, both profit. not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:25 PM
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yes, i think the permanent marks and damages should be regarded as sacrifices that need to be compensated. but i would also argue that the damage a man takes from providing should regarded as such for jobs that are a heavy toll on their health what would the "mommy makeover" entail? which sum do you think is right or just to give to a mother for having your child. (disregarding the horrible visions of that actually working as a framework for a laboring job where children aren't born into a lovin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:16 PM
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Yeah, calling that destroyed is the opposite of what i'd call an apropriate term. I even think it's close to offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:39 PM
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Yes, but calling it destroyed is a pretty horrible term for it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:36 PM
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Maybe i am because calling it destroyed is a dysphemism to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:35 PM
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All right, i think that's doing good already. As i understand it, there's an objective and a subjective component to the sacrifice. Bodily suffrence is objective, the personal experiance of it varies. I've heard women say birth was the most painful feeling in their life, i've heard some say it was the most beautiful thing in their life and some even both at the same time. In your opiniom, how much is it worth? Is this the main sacrafice that you are talking about or is there other? Because i agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:34 PM
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Destroying their body, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:47 PM
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I agree completely. I would propose that the sacrafice a person makes to the better of the family should not be to his or her detriment in the longrun. It shouldnt be im the shortrun either, but dynamics work out in the long run and thats what trust is about, i think. I think you misunderstood me or i wasnt clear enough, because that is exactly what i am talking about, what i want and what i need. I have the fear that the sacrifice i will make for the better of the family and the child, as for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:38 PM
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Popping out humanity out of their body Pretty spectacular
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:23 PM
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I, too, want the baby to be im a safe Environment thats maximizing its safety to grow up healthy. Laws to ensure that are fine and welcome. In fact i think, you'll be happy to hear that i want laws changed for that safety of the child. However i don't think that safety extends to the woman after the baby is born. I want that protection just as much. It is not "protection yes/no" but "protection for all or for women not men" that means harm for me. If we find a framework where men are as protecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:15 PM
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Allright, i'll try. I would marry if the laws and societal paradigm wouldnt mean harm to me if it didnt work out Let's find a compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:06 PM
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Why would you let society dictate what is masculine? Male individual norms stood always at odds with societal norms. History and myths are full of men that overthrew what is dictated from society and they are cherished as heros.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:45 AM
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Why not first principles?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:36 AM
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Correct But We don't have the knowledge or wisdom to ingeneer it socially or culturally. I empathize with your needs or wishes of strengthening the collective male position. I am not sure if it makes as much sense as it does for women. Maybe that's only my frustration speaking trying to do this for half a decade, though, and failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:22 AM
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I've never heard a woman make this claim. There's women dating junkies, ffs. Women are repulsed if you're ashamed of being what you are and what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:21 AM
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In that argument weak is defined by forming weak offspring You'll never know from the outside which is weak and which is strong. Imposing a cultural mechanism will just let evolve a new weak and strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:02 AM
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What would those ways be that women are repulsed by?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:00 AM
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Which trashbins would those be
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:28 AM
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There is a double meaning to confidence i find interesting. One is the self-confidence in the direct interaction, which is generally cited to be attractive. Next to it is cockiness, opposite is shyness. But there is another one, i found to be a much better predictor of attraction and it does relate to non needyness. It is the confidence to be independent about female (or male) judgement. The question about what females find attractive is valid, but it holds an i security about your own life in i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:26 AM
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You'll have a hard time going against a key mechanism for the survival of our species. Even if today we look pretty healthy from a population standpoint, these things are deeply deeply ingrained. A cultural change being at odds with biology has not the simplest chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:53 AM
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Incorrect Edit: i'm actually not really sure i understand what you mean. i withdraw my judgement. Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:49 AM
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How do you judge whats masculine and what not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:47 AM
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I think all these things you list are valid points. I argue that the biggest point of attraction is to not make yourseld dependent on the judgement of any of those. If you are ashamed or have bad feelings about any one of these and communicate a need for approval, that is imo what can go wrong with these points.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:44 AM
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You do keep track of it yourself, it's being comfortable. Masculine token does sound like a list though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:37 PM
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Bit of a wildcard, but arent those things actually of benefit to our species? Sure it sucks for individuals, and individuals do work out individual solutions to it. I think that also part of being male, figuring out how to improve to get that egg spermed. If the old stereotype of female being nature and male being culture. You wont change nature, and can only adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:33 PM
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You not making yourself dependent from that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:30 PM
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A poet that fucks other mans wifes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:18 PM
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That's a bummer
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:13 PM
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I have already made fun of it multiple times in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:12 PM
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Yeah sorry, i think you're just trying to be offensive now, with this unprovoked insults against felines.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:06 PM
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Yeah, that's how understand it and i learned the term today. It sounds fucking exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:59 PM
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Dude i'm kinda not at all getting what you're putting down
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:58 PM
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Do masculine things to be attractive, when doing unmasculine things, you look out for a balance to not get below some threshhold. Masculinity tokens are activities to get it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:45 PM
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I don't think there is any, you're searching for a unicorn here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:38 PM
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Yeah, now that you say it. A woman wouldnt even want to be attracted to her son, so there's no problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:26 PM
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Yes What does it have to do with the wawo or the counterclaim? Feminists claim men are shit, at this point who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:50 PM
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What did i misinterpret?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:22 PM
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I mean, you can fear being judge. Just confront your fear accordingly to your best developement. There's no shame in fearing social dynamics. Take responsibility for it and get that shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:09 PM
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i mean that's the reason one is workplace and the other one is private. you searching for a reason why hide in front of women are getting ridiculous. real man ask get their shit together and don't hide. nothing of this says they are hyperemotional. being emotional is part of life, you hiding it has no longterm benefit. it has longterm harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:56 PM
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good theory with no logical faults in it you accepting any not extremely ugly women approach you to have sex proves women are not as horny as men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:52 PM
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yeah, you can just hide your emotions from her, like a mouse hides before a cat. real manly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:46 PM
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aren't these judgements that women does about her man absolute knock out red flags for you? how can she raise a man - your son - if she thinks she is in any position to "forgive" you for crying for your fathers death. will she shame your son for crying on your deathbed? is that the environment you want your legacy? do we base our theories about relationship on mentally ill people now, that won't hold two generations? i'd like to propose a counter argument for women judging weak shit. true. weakn…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:44 PM
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dude, i don't even know
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:32 PM
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i have yet to meet a woman that is attracted to a man hiding his true self from her
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:32 PM
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only in the last 60 years have men come to the impression that it's manly to hide your true self before women. look at the depictions of gods, of mythical figures, all are extremely emotional and rational both, because that's how you get successful. what's so bad about standing your ground?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:31 PM
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yes, i have once again missed the point trying to be funny
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:27 PM
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dude i think you might be onto something
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:25 PM
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what's the argument? the "wawe" isn't a movement or advertisement, it's socialogical theory. then there's an explicit "men are wonderful" countermovement to the effect? and you are saying that some anecdotal evidence of parts of the countermovement show that they are ironically showing they are not in promoting making women smaller to be taller? do i get that right or what am i missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:24 PM
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only weird because it's overt, sure. dude, making a woman judge over what you can feel and what not is the weakest shit i heard all day. you wanna call her mommy too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:13 PM
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the argument in my silly hyperbole is to not let women be a ruling judge in your masculinity. nothing kills being a man more than making your most important inner judgement mechanism dependent from the person you wanna fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:10 PM
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thank you very much, i am greatly appreciative of it was mocking the theory with an impersonal "you", not addressing you personally. should have made that clearer. would love to hear your opinion on it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:08 PM
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don't you just wanna be strong in your own life though? when you're not tricking weak women into adapting your fake frame of strength, don't you do things that need you to be strong? why would you wanna fake when you can just get strong for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:01 PM
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"honey may i care about my dog that is sick? i'll make it up by driving with my motorcycle three hours" "ugh, please no, that's not enough token masculinity. make it four hours, i wanna fuck tonight and you're killing my libido with all that caring for your sick dog. more motorcycle, less caring, please" how do you guys even come up with shit like that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:54 PM
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what do you mean? you count how much you projected not caring to finally be real for a short moment till its not too long? why don't you just decide for yourself how much weakness is appropriate to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:34 PM
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i don't understand the condition of "ensure attraction despite showing emotions"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:28 PM
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Masculine token" theory i too would like a better understanding of that theory albeit for less cynical reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:26 PM
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nah, i'm on a road of cleansing. no sex till i feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:00 PM
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incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:52 PM
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every second post here is "can't say or think this or that because the vagina will react unfavourably"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:15 PM
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the concept of the ultimate alpha doesn't assimilate with the concept of falling in love. how does women swooning for the true absolute one crossover with women swooning for the true relative one. if you don't solve this riddle your theory doesn't hold, imo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:05 PM
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nice evading the question why do girls fall in love all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:36 PM
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how do you think the small minority generates the wealth you would rely on?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:23 PM
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how does the biological mechanism of falling in love fit into this narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:51 PM
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seems like trouble to me, but if it's working and you're happy you're doing better than me, so cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:46 PM
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i was just proposing a non functional solution as a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:44 PM
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ah i see seems like you found a way to live with it that's working, so all is good?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:38 PM
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just be sad when you feel it, than walk five miles -> you're not sad anymore and exactly the same pussy status as before
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:34 PM
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do you want a LTR were it is impossible for you to feel what you feel? making your emotions dependent of female approval is that what's pathetic, not the emotion itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:33 PM
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when you get sad, you still think about the pussy barometer? can't you just be sad and don't care for female confirmation or rejection?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:24 PM
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i want sympathy instead of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:23 PM
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why is the man crying? is it 1928 again?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:22 PM
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making your emotional response dependent on the judgement of women is what makes them despise you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:21 PM
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if you are angry you are not sad. if you are sad you are not angry. you can be both and you can be none. saying one should show sadness instead of anger i lacking an understanding in emotions and will lead to further emotional problems. telling men their issues would get more sympathy if they had the correct emotion is part of the problem. it is however a great question. compassion comes with truth, and understanding your anger leads to a much better basis to inform and show your surroundings. p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:19 PM
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it's for you to decide which way to go from here. admitting defeat is not the worst thing. kinda lifts the curtain, what is still in you, when you failed? failing feels like shit. but admitting defeat is lifting the curtain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 01:50 PM
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i don't even remember at the moment, let me think... i just pity them and get sad. i do however think that the classical male weakness is completely different from the female weakness. playing with some form of overt inability is not seldom a sign of pretty intuitive abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 01:43 PM
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a missing force of attraction doesn't equal a force a repulsion. my boner goes no pop, i go in a different mental mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 01:32 PM
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it's not about confindence at all. i really didn't mean to overstep the bounderies, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 01:30 PM
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why would a woman take your mental frame as her own though? people get of the theory of mind when they are 3-4 years old, do you think women have the mental level that makes it difficult for them to differ your mental state from theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 01:28 PM
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holy shit, what a bunch of cunts those guys were. that is extremely assholeish behavior and completely unprofessional. i've heard there is sometimes tough shit going on to harden the new guy up, but this is sabotaging the own company. what a completely unreasonable behavior with no upside. it does sound humiliating. dude, but what you are describing is the opposite of the quality i am describing. the women i found attractive would describe this qualities of bullying someone as a immediate red fl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 12:52 PM
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if i feel it, i date her if i don't feel it, i don't ​ things that make me feel it are both sexual attraction and personal attraction, sexual attration being a good bit more important. if i'm missing sexual attraction i try to get friends, if i'm missing personal attraction good bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 12:36 PM
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i'm not sure i understand you correctly weak women are not attractive at all
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 12:33 PM
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i think we're overestimating how stable our society and old societies need(ed) to be to function. in my opinion we're doing a pretty good job of sorting those problems and getting people back to healthy, most people doing it even on their own to a good part. it's only the second or third generation with overwhelming abundance of food. famines were one of humanities biggest dangers. my father still hungered after the war as little child. indeed interesting times, let's make the best of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 12:26 PM
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correct backing off a problem because it's scary is part of the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:55 AM
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i disagree. caring about women is not separated from morals but an integral part. i have let hurt guide me to ignore it, didn't make it true. there are many other integral parts to it. so i would reformulate to: you need to stop letting care about women disturb high pursuits. what is your higher pursuit?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:42 AM
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darwin gets upset
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:08 AM
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wrong dichotomy in my opinion. it takes learning and understanding, but that's 4 types, not 2. caring and confrontative are possible at the same time, as is agreeableness without a good core. if you're wondering that you're too nice, maybe it's a good starting point to ask yourself if you are nice to the outside and nice to the inside at the same time, because that's what weak is missing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:07 AM
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personally i found the contrary to be true. once you find your morals, you stop being beta and get real. i had much greater success rates with this than with bullshitting through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:50 AM
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do you think nice is the opposite to assertive? you can be assertive in a nice way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:47 AM
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putting nice, subservient and weak in one category is pretty telling already. huge differences in quality and polarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:45 AM
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that is not what op is asking though. i have broken up with girls who were above my league. they may have found someone new, but there were good personal reasons i did reject her. care to explain how you come to this conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:43 AM
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being weak is different from being nice i have lost attraction because her insecurities made her do unattractive things. didn't lose my love for her though. i have lost love because she wasn't open and trusting about her weakness though. balancing those things is difficult, i don't see how they differ between men and women. but being real and true about yourself is what worked best for me on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:40 AM
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Being obese shows similar patterns to other substance dependencies It is an indicator of poor health Telling people to get fit is the best first advice, if they are actually unable they need help to overcome emotional issues that keep them in th fat-cycle. These emotional issues in many instances have to do with their social issues. Being fat is as much a mental issue as a bodily one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:55 AM
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Not sure the red pill is good advice though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:51 AM
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Damn, honestly, find other people. That sounds absolutely horrible. Yeah, in my experiance, social status was the highest external value in the eyes of women. If you're popular that most often correlates with some internal social value, like being attentive, friendly, caring, energetic etc. I'm just thinking of a thing: are you sure you're not negative filtering you experiance? I do this, when i feel bad i filter for hate towards me. I pick up on negative cues, get angry about it, get sinister a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:50 AM
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Thanks for giving personal context. Social anxiety is a not a direct problem in my opinion. It is a direct pain for sure though. I've had social anxiety too, every group with more than three people started to get me worrying and big loud parties had my heart racing before i went there. The anxiety was stronger with women, but definitely not exclusive. The problem with anxiety is that it breaks your feedback loop of understanding and enjoying social situations. Status, which is a big part of valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:45 AM
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I always felt value as some attention modfier. You see people have high value on social cues: people listen, get silent to hear, are attentive, try to engage, are more emotional, more compassionate, try more to connect. Or they go out of their way to invite or connect socially. That was always my impression of high value. Or my experiance of both high and low value, because i feel i have been both to some deviation of norm. It did correlate pretty strongly with my sexual value, imo. What you des…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:46 PM
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I have a different impression of what is perceived as high value i think I do love wearing nice clothes though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:14 PM
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Why do men give men bad advice? They dont know better
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:47 PM
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That commercial was the most soulless shit i've seen in some time. There's ways to address the approach dilemma, the commercial just put some oil in the fire. I think developing a feeling for the situation, what's appropriate and what not and what rejection actually does to young men are key elements to improve the situation on both sides. You address a good point, or even the major one. Bad feelings aren't neccessarily an indication that something bad has happened but that a dismissive judgemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 02:19 PM
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Yeah, great we've found common ground. Being emotional only works if you learn to handle emotional rejection. That only works if you're not exclusively open otherwise you get dependent. I've made that mistake, thinking only the intimacy with a woman would be the right setting to truly and deeply open up. While the opposite was finally true for me, reading the reaction and acting according to my judgement was extremely important. My personal experiance made me realize that actually negating your …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:26 PM
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Yeah, guess it's part of a personality thing. Listening to what you feel comfortable and what not is a pretty good way to go in what to share and what not. In my experiance though women don't react to the content of the emotionality but the way in which that is working in your personality. That's why crying on the loss of a family member shows good vulnerability, crying because your sportsteam lost bad vulnerability. That's why showing aggression in the face of peril is attractive but escalating…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 12:55 PM
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oh yeah, i think there's a lot of interesting connections in it. if you disregard "hormonal" depression, idk the right term, and look at societal depression that's in connection to social status, economic power, wealth, outlook on life and connection of depression with aggression makes perfect sense. i'm sure you'd find a good chunk of highly depressed men in prison, because if life fucks you either get lifeless or fight back. at some point you get in a vicious circle and i think that's where a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:14 AM
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as much as sharing your feelings when meaningful is showing a strong character putting your emotions in your back pocket when needed is showing a strong character. it's not either/or. look at ideological leaders, how they put their emotions on the frontline for everybody to see, unafraid of any response but welcoming it because they are not ashamed of their deepest feelings. if you're holding your cards close to the chest because you need to that's smart, i agree. if you hold back because you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:52 AM
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https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/men-and-depression/index.shtml Just search for male depression aggression
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:03 PM
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I think autism has a different set of symptoms between the genders (even though its a spectrum?), Idk i may be wrong about it, that how i remembered it. Maybe those set of symptoms lead to a quicker need for diagnosis? Like depression being underdiagnosed in men because aggression isn't/wasn't seen as depressive symptom and thus resulting to underdiagnosis of males.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:50 PM
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Complaining doesnt get you happy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:49 PM
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Does emotional power count as a counterpart to bodily force?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:41 PM
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Yeah, i'm not without mistake either and objectified people. My point is that we talk more about the objectification of the body than about the objectification of the soul. I don't think that's a good thing. Being truthful about sexual desires may be a way to clear the field. May also not be, i don't know. It's just a hunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:16 PM
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Ah, taking time when there's no danger. Taking time and being patient is a really good attitude, good thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:00 PM
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Nah, nothing unusual. I'll give an example. I was pretty shy and passive as a youngster and had my first sex with a prostitue. Years later i was in a relationship with that girl and she shamed me for it instead of asking for my story. Took me some time to realize i shattered some ideal bf idea she had me placed in. She wanted opening up but wasnt happy with my history so she shamed me. I would never do that to a person, you know? Asking them to open up about themself and then imposing my expecta…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:58 PM
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What does unfeeling and irascible mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:49 PM
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i disagree, that's a weak mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:11 PM
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sweet and hidden as ploy just is deceptive with other words you could go an indirect route and ask him about things you think he would be sweet without overtly commiting to being sweet. a sort of "action speak louder than words" kinda thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:10 PM
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it's a bit difficult to explain and i'm not doing a good job i had an ex, who shamed and guilted me instead of getting know what my history and my experience was, because i made a worse boyfriend because of it. you know, things like that, where your personality gets abused to fit a certain role or style of person, because that's what she wants you to be. if i communicate my truest self incl sexual desires from the beginning maybe it'd be more clear that i want a relationship or even just a getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:08 PM
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what does your story have to do with my question? you equating being open about your feeling with being needy leads you to wrong conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:46 AM
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they are not arrogant to some people, though, just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:23 AM
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I see. I propose a simple modification, that opens up a lot of good solutions. Most women are arrogant to you. You don't like it. what do you think about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:18 AM
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i think i'm missing some key information then isn't your problem you don't like interacting with arrogant women? i provided an easy solution: stop interacting with arrogant women. i dont understand why you need to make a lot of assumptions to get another solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:14 AM
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why do you think opening up and being vulnerable is being emotionally needy? it's funny a commercial is your reference point for a social role
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:10 AM
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if you don't like arrogant women than you can stop interacting with arrogant women. why do you need a social explanation with that much assumptions of which you don't know the truth? arrogant people are bad, avoiding them is much easier than understanding their arrogance. why do you care about understanding them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:07 AM
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Why do you care? Can't you just communicate what you want, if it works out great if not just move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:56 AM
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You seem to have a different understanding of elegance than most people. When i think of elegance it's concise and direct, takes little space or brain power. Your pain au chocolat is the opposite of elegance. It's needlessly taking up space. Not judging if that's a good or bad thing, because sometimes you're in the mood for some language fizzle and sometimes you want it as elegant as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:51 AM
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Parents don't love you for who you are. Why should your lover?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:44 AM
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Why would you want to be high value for a woman but not for your own good? The fuckmarket is second to your basic being not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:00 AM
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You react with aggression on a man that feels sweet and loving but doesnt show?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 09:53 AM
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Dude, that sounds pretty similar to me. I had a different centre of focus though, not the expression of my sexuality but my grasping of the dating game. I guess that's why we came to such different situations, because i feel, even if both are genuine the interaction can get bad when the dynamic of it being that game hasnt been pierced. I'm happy you found a middle ground. For me personally i can't shake the feeling that the game is still the focus and not the genuine sexuality. Its like interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 09:51 AM
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Honestly i often have the feeling women want to click not out of common goal of getting to know each other but so they feel acknoledged. As parallel to how you put "a soul to use". Communicating sexual desires could be a good way to filter those out. I'm not sure about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 09:41 AM
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i see, you want a man to be genuine and the topic of that needs to please you. pretty reasonable when looked at this way. so if a man is sweet and loving but is not genuine about it, that's bad too for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:44 AM
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great response i agree that neither a) or b) is true, i want to understand what part of them is true and what part of them is false. i see this sort of binds pretty often and they are making things difficult cuz i have yet to reach the bottom of their reasoning. your "how to" seems pretty reasonable, but leaves out the part of "genuine" i am most interested in and which the double bind clearly negates. i guess it is: how to be genuine about sexual feelings when many expressions of sexual feeling…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:41 AM
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immediately oversharing is a personal judgement, being genuine implies a person makes that judgement for them-self. how is waiting to address your intentions more genuine than communicating it first thing? it seems to me, that not men only looking for sex is offputting, but men looking too strongly for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:33 AM
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i was alluding to your assessment of "deep insecurity" in other men only looking for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:26 AM
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i wasn't looking for a manual on how to do it. a "how to do" is the opposite of a genuine expression, too. i wonder what's up with the double bind of a) a man looking for sex is off-putting b) a man being genuine is on-putting while looking for sex is genuine for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:25 AM
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yeah, he needs to be strong too, though. making other men feel bad to feel better about himself is the opposite of a great man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:53 AM
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what if a man is genuinely looking for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:52 AM
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using the term insecure as a shaming tactic instead of a description of a process is missing a basic tool to improve to feel powerful for a whole 2 seconds
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:48 AM
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the common concept of alpha is flawed imo when alpha is viewed as top of the social status this implies access to all kinds of emotions in oneself and in others. men that block their "sweet and loving and vulnerable" side won't access these emotions which denies access to more interesting social dynamics. the most common concept of alpha falls more on a militaristic, strong, cold side which is in most situation not the leader but a follower of the leader. that man is specialized already and fall…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:45 AM
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incorrect prediction
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:31 AM
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as long as there's a middle ground or a compromise to be found i think a open a direct communication works better than passive agressive remarks about off-topics that you somehow think strengthen your case. sorry to be so blunt about it i think a better perspective to equal is balanced, equal obviously doesn't work and men need to make their case for it - rational but also empathic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:25 AM
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Closer to "normal" sexuality most (all i can think of right now) wanted some form of active, "dominant enough" sexual performance of me. Even when i talked about it and said i wanted to not always be the lover but also the lovee, the receiving part of attention, love and desire that worked for around 5 minutes or maximum half an evening till some program seemed to kick in and they closed their eyes, showed their neck, etc etc and i was back to being the active part and them the to be desired. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:41 PM
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in my experience people are more interested in the "healthy" part of opening up than in the "feeling" part how you acknowledge and communicate your feelings is a competence or wisdom in itself and the "better" you are at it the more attractive you are compare it to saying "i am attracted to musical people" and that person sings all the notes wrong, doesn't have a feel for rhythm, is too loud too soft, etc. vs someone singing a sad song when he's sad and chanting a hymn in a big group of people. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:13 AM
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