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Even in that case I believe fomo is amplified through social media and media in general. Also thoughts are not same thing as thinking. We can actually regulate our thinking habits. Also there is more to life than variation in romantic and sexual partner and we need to spend more time in those aspects. That's why when we are single we need to get attached to our hobbies and friends more than the idea of romantic variations
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:29 AM
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But are they going to be sharing their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:40 PM
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That fomo can be socially imposed or amplified. There are plenty of people who intentionally avoid casual sex and have no desire to have a hoe phase. I am such one person. I value romantic relationship more than meeting new people just so I can stimulate my neurons for one second. There is more to life than just going through a hook up phase and people are age should really try to understand. Just something to think about...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:34 PM
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What about situations like telling your so you don't want to be called a certain nickname since it triggers trauma or something. Isn't that controlling his behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:18 AM
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You're moving the goalpost I am not trying to move the goal post. We're discussing if an innate behaviour of a species can. We have to prove if something is innate though and what it actually means to be innate Because our females are horny even when not fertile, which is very commonly seen in social sex species and rarely seen in non social-sex species. This doesn't mean our behaviors can't change? Plus how do we know that strict puritanism is only what to influence humans to be monogamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:28 PM
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If social and environmental factors have such a strong impact on our ability to stay in a relationship, then that would also imply that monogamy is not an instinct strong enough to overcome those. A lot of things are hard to over come environmental stresses. The most mightest animals, the dinosaurs went extinct to environmental stressors. We have social darwinist mindset that extinct animals are inferior to animals who are not extinct which is not true. Sure the dinosaurs went extinct but the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:56 PM
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Also some people treat sex as if it can only be romantic and tied to romantic love which isn’t true . I don't see how that causes problem. What's the issue with me seeing sex as a romantic activity exclusively? Asexuality while being alloromantic These people don’t want sex but do want romance Or there are people who are allosexual but aromantic Who cares about these people it's not like I am thinking about them 24/7 nor do I owe them a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:35 PM
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I am not claiming I know what sex feels like but rather I am claiming I have understanding how human attitude of sex works. Why shouldn't sex carry those things? I am also asking about the word should. I have heard stuff like you should eat with a fork or you should be like this. Things don't work in shoulds instead things work in a cause and effect manner. Things happen for a reason and if we don't understand that reason its because we are missing something
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:34 PM
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It could be if it correlates with more than just primate behaviour, as I said. Lifelong monogamy is seen in almost no mammals that live longer than 20 years, and is not seen in any Great Ape, including the two closest two us: Chimps and Bonobos (and we are behaviourally more similar to Bonobos). That's no coincidence You have to prove that it's not just a correlation. How do we know divorce occurs to nature of relationships as opposed to social and environmental factors. Basically, we can't argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:29 PM
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What's wrong if it's a romantic activity exclusively?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:11 PM
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I respectfully disagree that society puts too much emphasis or pressure on sex because it's too vague to actually understand what happens. Society puts contradictory and hypocritical beliefs about sex. At one hand you have the puritans and on the other hand you have the sex industry. The two go in hand with each other. There is a reason why red state men tend to have problems with pornographic addiction more than blue state men. I grew up coupling sex with romance from reading young adult books …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:05 PM
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That's because the majority of people on here are generally skewing younger, and don't actually have enough experience of it to really understand any real nuances. And of course, plenty of us oldies too! I don't think it's about age but more so ideology and awareness. I am a 26 year old virgin but I have read or skimmed through scientific papers relating to sex and sex in Hunter gather society. I have already skimmed through paper about how human behaviors and even animal behaviors are shaped th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:59 PM
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We're a social sex species, just like every other Great Ape closely related to us. It's in our nature to see sex as a casual thing. You're right that emotions connect to sex, but for us, those are emotions meant to build social bonds in general, not specifically a monogamy bond. I don't think it's correct to say it's our nature because human behaviors are very malleable compared to other animals and even within animals behaviors change. Even within species animal behavior changes. The other fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:55 PM
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I don't necessarily agree with op but how do you know for sure things aren't deep?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:06 PM
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This thread is turning into an echo chamber and I want to provide a different perspective. Yes I agree shame around sex and masturbation is a problem but not coupling sex with romance. Some people like me see sex as a romantic activity exclusively just like kissing. It helps us differentiate romance and friendship. What we are against is people decoupling sex from romance and larger cultural shift and taking what was once romantic and making it platonic. From reading things on internet and talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:05 PM
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I think the main problem I disagree with your world view. I personally think the way you view the world is in disconnected parts. Many bluepillers and liberals also share this world view. I see the world in interconnected systems. Which insecurities do you feel society demonizes? I feel like society demonizes people who have insecurities in general. I see people use insecurities as insult or make fun of someone's looks, dick size, speech impediment and so one just because they disagree with them…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:37 PM
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I think the obvious answer is that women have easier time finding partners but have hard time finding partners they actually love
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:44 PM
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This is what I was obsessed with is that we will become too independent to desire a romantic relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:42 PM
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While I agree that cheating is more common than people realize, I however think your experience working at the gym isn't representative of the majority. I don't think majority of people need to be cheating for people to be concerned about. I think our understanding of cheating is flawed. People think cheating is human nature and will always exist or that it's mistake humans just make. These are both simplistic ideas behind cheating which are used to shutdown further discussions about cheating. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:37 PM
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just feeling a bit pessimistic and don't really see society even beginning Pessimism is rooted in idealism, it's not rooted in material reality. I don't want to give up my political ideology but I suggest you could search dialectical materialism Things that aren't useful like flaws in your looks and things that are immutable for me personally I agree that being insecure about things you cannot change is unproductive. But it's ok to be sad and allow yourself to feel sad about things you cannot ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:15 PM
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Some are caused by society (like insecurity in one's looks) but others (like the problems that come from a shit upbringing) are just part of a cycle that's perpetuated by individual families Individual families don't exist in a vacuum, culture and economics impacts the relationship dynamics of said families. To fix said issue would be to change culture and economics which is yes is complicated but important to discuss how a person responds to it, and the root of it dictate it's usefulness. Some …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:07 AM
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Is there is someone you are talking to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:54 AM
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Why would you even waste your time dating women who are sexually incompatible with you? This just seems like you want to piss off the blue and purple pill women of this subreddit. I think there is a better way to argue with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:13 PM
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Because "society" can't actively address the individual ills of everyone who had a shit upbringing But society did cause those problems that people are stuck with. I agree individuals have power to make the decision to change but society can make it easier for people to achieve that goal, heck friends and strong support system helps. You don't have to fix yourself if you don't want to but you're not going to find happiness waiting around for someone to bring it to you. I am not going to fix myse…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:55 PM
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And casual relationships can end sometimes in real long term relationships Yeah but people who are looking for a long term relationship won't be looking for casual relationships. For an example I am looking for long term relationships and would reject a woman who is only looking for short term Dude who makes this bigger than it is by then proclaiming societal implications needs to chill the fuck out in my opinion. I don’t know what we need to be doing to women who we think are slutty in order to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:29 PM
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Yeah I noticed several users here resort to insults to hurt you in attempts to avoid engaging with the contents of our arguments. Purplepill subreddit is basically a bluepill (liberal) echo chamber. The post might be Mra or manosphere shit but clearly the comments are from liberal individuals. I personally believe they lack the cognitive capacity to engage in meaningful conversations that contradicts their worldview. But this is to be expected since we tend to develop strong attachments to our w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:03 PM
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This makes the most sense to me honestly and it makes evolutionary sense as well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:54 PM
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And my point was men have always been sending naked pictures and pictures of their cocks and jerk off shots on dating apps and I’m sure that a percentage ended up in relationships with women This doesn't contradict my point, my point is that pictures and videos like this on dating app seems like they are looking for casual relationships. Like this whole “swap genders” thing is dumb in my opinion because men have routinely send dick pics and pictures with their shirts off flexing etc and nobody b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:51 PM
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They are not here to argue with people who have different worldview but rather to argue against steelman and strawman. They do this because they want to be correct since they are strongly attached to their simplistic worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:48 PM
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I mean why not, we can fantasize all we want, are we likely to marry them no but there is no harm in day dreaming. But also dating profiles have more information than just pictures such as listing hobbies, exhibiting style of humor, and even pictures can tell story about someone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:46 PM
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I understand what he is saying though, let's change the gender for a sec, if a man had half naked pictures and staring he wants a serious relationship wouldn't that raise some brows. This topic came up in a dating server where a guy posted his dating profile in a channel and a leftist progressive women told him to delete his half naked photos because it doesn't come off as serious. It isn't about judging people who have slutty pictures but rather does his or her picture actually match what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:42 PM
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Aren't there people looking for marriage in some dating platforms?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:38 PM
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These people never really addressed your points and seems like they arguing with a straw man they made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:36 PM
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People ARE responsible for their own lives. You can't influence mine, I can't influence yours any more than YOU let me You don't understand how humans work. https://ystudios.com/insights-place/environment-influences (this is more of a blog but explains my point and beliefs clearly) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7933023/ (this is article looks at how human health is impacted by environment) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK154491/ (This article examines how external factors influe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:36 PM
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Exactly 💯 the reason why we don't like our selves and struggle with insecurities is because of our upbringing aka our environmental and social factors. Why is it on us to fix ourselves for a society that caused in the first place. I don't mean that we shouldn't try to heal but the reality is that if we don't address the social issue we cannot really solve the underlying problem. It's like cleaning a polluted river, you can clean the river all you want but it won't stop people from dumping trash …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:53 AM
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Yeah this what I feel like they tend to do honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:56 PM
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What's valuable to you will not be valuable to me or other people. With that said I would say I am loyal, compassionate, empathetic, creative, adventurous, and funny. I am also learning how to cook and still trying out new recipes and I love cleaning and organizing things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:51 PM
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Reminder, current studies indicate that paternal uncertainty actually improved social cohesion in Neolithic tribal society. Our ability to work together is an artifact of paternal uncertainty. This why men are worried about women cheating because they romanticize the paternal uncertainty of these tribal societies. But the thing humans can be form strong social cohesion without paternal uncertainty. I can take care my friends kid without having sex with his wife
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:50 PM
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What's wrong with convincing people though? Our ideas and values don't come from no where
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:44 PM
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But my question is why do some people not like themselves are they just born not liking themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:41 PM
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So I got myself to the point where I never have to rely on a man to be my provider. But I still can't win, now I'm too independent. If you are too independent why would you want to be in a romantic relationship anyways. There are some organism such as jaguars and tigers that are solitary animals. So why would an independent individual need a society?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:39 PM
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I think they don't understand our perspective is because they are liberals and follow individualism. These progressives and bluepill people coopted the conservative rhetoric pull by the boot strap. While they see some problems as social problems requiring social change they don't apply this when it is inconvenient or contradicts their world view. They want to believe individuals are largely responsible for their own life which is wrong. Our life is dependent on various external factors and our h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:38 PM
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How can he lose weight by himself, who built those dumbbell and machines, who grew and sometimes cooked for him, who built the car or bus for him go to the gym, who made those workout articles for him to read. Yes it's his choice to take action but let's not ignore how external environment have role in our choices
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:29 PM
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Yeah at this point we definitely need to have two income house hold. Yep especially if it's emergency visit or even urgent care we got to pay for those expenses unfortunately. Thank you much appreciate it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:52 PM
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oh no my condolences. i don’t believe you get any paid time off for children over there :( I figured as much sigh 😔 do you think in america everyone feels pressured to have dual income households and split chores due to the cost of medical care and living ? Oh yeah definitely, especially since medical care is corrupt and housing market is terrible in my area. Also many things are just down right expensive here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:00 PM
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I didn't think too much about the baby part yet but ideally it should also be even or at least close to even. I wouldn't want my hypothetical wife to burn out from child care and I want to be present in my child life's besides just having fun with them. I have not read too much into USA laws regarding paternity and maternity leave but I am assuming they are not good lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:43 PM
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should have more to do with other things than What are those other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:37 PM
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Yeah when push comes to shove that's what I feel like. For example if you bring up the fact that less men attend and stay in college than women they would just say it's natural or that it's not a problem. The other aspect how feminism is affecting science. When observing matriarchal social structures in certain organism such as hyenas and bonobos they often arrive at incorrect conclusions. Female hyenas don't actually make life of male hyneas hell and infact they are aggressive towards other fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:36 PM
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This where I disagree with you because an inexperience person with strong will against fomo aligns with my character and values. Dating is about finding partner who shares your values and beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:28 PM
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You might never know if you will die tomorrow, the world is uncertain, so what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:37 AM
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That's reductionist, other reason why some one would care is relating to coupling sex with committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:23 AM
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This is definitely negatively charged as you have used insecurities as insult repeatedly and assume the women we look for don't enjoy sex which is wrong lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:58 AM
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I didn't realize it needed to be specified. 🤷 Specificity helps Your comments to me show that you're bothered. HTH. I am not denying I am bothered but not sure what emotions it triggered in me but I just wanted to point out how the way you phrases your comment can be seen in a negative way as in you want women in general to swipe left on men like us
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:35 AM
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Yes and I would be weary of people who do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:30 AM
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I'm just saying put it in the profile so that people who aren't interested can swipe away. And those who are interested can swipe to match. You didn't specify the last portion of this sentence in your initial comment There's no animosity. 🤷 It sounds like my comments triggered something in you. Not my problem. I am not sure what it triggered in me but I just want to share what I thought about your comment. It's the syntax and diction you used that made me think it's not a neutral sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:29 AM
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You could have said "put it in your pfp so you can filter out incompatible women" but instead you said "put it in your pfp so women can swipe left on you" This to me sounds like there is some animosity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:19 AM
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Put it in your dating app profile so women can swipe away. To me this sounds emotionally charged
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:08 AM
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I am also struggling with insecurity of it but it's also about having compatible values
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:05 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:04 AM
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IMO most discrimination against men is cultural, not systemic I agree but that doesn't mean it's not important or worthless for discussion We will not do the work for you I personally don't want women to do anything, in fact we should have legite men groups (not mra) to actually help male issues
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:02 AM
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Why call yourself egalitarian feminism when according to feminist, feminism is about egalitarianism? What are non egalitarian feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:55 AM
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And it’s not more complicated than that. There men like me who don't want to date promiscous women due to our differing sexual values
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:52 AM
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Yeah that's fair, the main contention is the judgment for having said preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:51 AM
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Mockery, Denial, Downplaying This is because it's all what these people can do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:50 AM
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I know right these blue pillers (liberal laymen) pretend that internet is seperate from reality when in reality the internet is by product of reality. Sure the internet can exaggerate things and lie about things but it's hard to know for sure to assess validity without some sort of confirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:49 AM
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But don't you think fomo could be amplified due to culture though? I don't think marrying early by itself cause people to want to explore and I don't think the levels of fomo being experienced is natural either. Yes maybe by just looking at inexperienced women isn't enough to get rid of the feeling of inadequacy but rather we can look for women who have strong will against fomo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:46 AM
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If you’re a “less desirable man”, sucks to suck. It is what it is. Is there an objective way to measure what less desirable means? At least be honest and admit that your “truth” is rooted in your fear of being a less desirable man. I think it's more complicated than that though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:37 AM
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What you call wimpy and logical is subjective though. What one person think is wimpy will not be seen as wimpy by others. And logic isn't always rooted in truth. For example one would logically believe therapod dinosaurs to have hip bones like birds since birds are therapists themselves but it's ornithischians dinosaurs that have hip bones like birds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:34 AM
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I don't think it's fair to label all of us as prudes as we do want sex but sex in the context of a romantic relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:08 AM
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I agree both the instant gratification and fear of consequences act as a negative feedback loop. So it's difficult to break out of this loop. I am glad you got the chance to work in a professional where you get to socialize like that. It sounds fun and rewarding
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:14 PM
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I am egalitarian but traditional, let me explain. I think men and women should equally participate in household chores. Both should have similar salaries because if the salary gap is too big one will have advanyover the other Where I am more traditional is when it comes to fashion and behavior during sex. Ideally men should wear masculine clothes and accessories while women wear feminine clothes and accessories. Men should be dominate in bed while women should be submissve. But again this is jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:02 PM
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The reason for the oppression is due to the fact men didnt know if it's their child with 100% certainty like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:37 PM
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