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children get freebies, not women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:04 PM
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If women vetted out men from their dating pool who lust after stacies, they'd have no one either. Poeple lust after hotness. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:02 PM
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"Unfortunately for men, their egos are tied up to the ability to attract a woman for sex." Sounds like they should take some accountability, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:00 PM
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"I'm not sure what you mean by women being different, since it is generally men who are hardwired to remain single." Is that why they are soooo deeply worried about all the single ladies out there? They ought to love it if less women get married since that means more women in the dating pool for them? But they don't. Is that why men on average are desperate to get remarried after divorce? Because they are programmed for single life? Is that why it's men now on surveys that want to marry more tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:55 PM
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Too bad there is zero data to bakc up this idea that sleeping with Chad spoils women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:50 PM
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You would have a girlfriend if you lowered your standards, but you don't because you just aren't attracted to them. So why aren't you taking your own advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:49 PM
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"I am reasonably wealthy, but this woman definately has wealthier guys after her." So she isn't hypergamous. In fact, she should be hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:48 PM
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Like there is even a term for it - hobosexual
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:47 PM
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Do you think women are dating strippers, prostitutes and pornstars?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:43 PM
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What? I found my husband. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:42 PM
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Bingo. It's everyone - men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:38 PM
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I get it, when you guys can't refute the data, you just engage in more that "rational and non-emotional" reasoning by resorting to name calling such as "bitter" and "resentful." Because men are never lead by their emotions, right? Here, Crispy, let's put on your actual thinking cap here. How exactly would you react if you were told since the time that you were small that you have to listen to men, submit to men, do what men want because women are less intelligent, more emotional, and the oldest …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:38 PM
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LMAO, all the upvotes. i think you did a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:17 PM
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I doubt this woman wants to marry anyone, including you, if she is only seeing you once every couple of weeks. That's a booty call, not a relationship. But here is the thing. Day after day men tell us that we are all going to be lonely shriveled up dead women eaten by our cats if we don't get married right this second right now quick quick before we hit the wall.... pleaseeee god. And that doesn't comport with our reality or the studies. It is men who find themselves lonely in old age. So we poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:17 PM
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This right here is projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:12 PM
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Men are toddlers who can't face life alone and need a mommy to take care of them. This is why they whine about not having relationships and are always searching for a woman to cook for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:11 PM
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women aren't having a hard time getting commitment in this sub. I've been married 19 years. And based on the stats that I have seen, it's men that want marriage now more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:09 PM
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I know, right? Oh nooo.... anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:05 PM
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I don't submit to anyone, and I've been married 19 years. If any man thinks he gets to lead me just because he has testicles, well, that proves he is irrational and doesn't deserve leadership. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:05 PM
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I've read your list below of what women should understand about men and their "masculine frame" and it frankly is just regurgitated patriarchal nonsense. Hate to tell you, but women aren't immature or childish if they don't want to submit to some man's decision making. You've dressed it up over "just doing a load of laundry" but below you've made it clear that you think because you have testicles, your wife or girlfriend should submit to you and accept your masculine frame, what ever that is. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:03 PM
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Women on this sub aren't complaining about not getting dates, men are. Shouldn't men be accountable then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:15 PM
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If my choice is husband or a career, I'll take the career
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:13 PM
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"relationship but think the normative experience for a woman is to be cheated on, taken advantage of, used only for sex, and denied commitment when that's the outcome for women who will only settle for what they want, " LMAO. Yes, guys hating it when older women impart wisdom to the younger ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:08 PM
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Undesirable women either get what they want or decide to be alone. That's a fully mature choice. You just don't like it. As a midwoman, society tells us we are mid all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:07 PM
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Men tell us all that matters is looks and age. Her job doesn't matter, her education doesn't matter.... You can drop the pearl clutching.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:05 PM
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No, actually, I think my point is far more pertinent because I am discussing the ACTUAL OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:02 PM
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No, I just find it fully amusing how men say the most hateful thing about other men and men ignore it to jump all over women. My dad is the one who told me men were dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:00 PM
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antidepressants are prescribed for perimenopause
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:58 PM
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This is spitting facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:57 PM
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I thought you were big with data. If you were, you'd know this isn't true at least financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:55 PM
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You sure you want to believe what someone says completely three sheets to the wind?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:54 PM
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"My high school friend is single and childless, but she devoted her adult years to becoming an excellent circus performer, and now she performs with cirque du soleil and has no interest in men, babies, or domesticity. I long suspect she's asexual and I think she might be on the spectrum, but by all accounts, she's thriving and killing it." FUCK YES
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:53 PM
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I have major issues with age gap relationships because my brother was abused in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:39 PM
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I have two female friends - never married/no kids - in your age group and they both are quite happy. My sister is older than that, also single never married no kids. She had some bumpy emotions because she realized she was never going to have kids and that can be a bit of a paradigm change. She certainly didn't call me up crying that she was going to be "forever alone." I'm sure there are some never married singles who are upset, just like there are men like that. But not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:33 PM
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a lot of those man haters are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:27 PM
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Not even 50/50. They expect you to do most of the household chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:26 PM
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Men who make posts like OPs consider it a moral failing of women that they don't find all men (read OP) attractive. It is such b.s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:23 PM
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You think guys are going to date a 5/10 if a 8/10 is in the offering "for society"? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:56 PM
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They conceive of looks as a straight line.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:55 PM
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Sounds like the reason guys are looking for a relationship is because they can't lay pipe and play the field as you put it. They aren't any better than the hot guys, just less attractive to women. No win for women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:54 PM
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Whey don't you admit that you can't tell the difference between lust and love. Hint - dick tingles isn't love. Loving sex doesn't mean you love the woman. For me, being built like a frau isn't something I could control either - broad shoulders short neck, very masculine. Get over being short.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:53 PM
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"Means, your average 5/10 Guy, would be willing to take a normal, 4/10 Women." Willing to take.... Save me from a man that is just "willing to take me." I see how men treat those that are just appliances to them. No love, never does anything nice, expects sexual service without giving it, expects me to do 75 of housework while working full time, expects me to birth the kids and raise them. And always has a roving eye. And if he "levels up?" I'm tossed in the garbage because he deserves a 7/10 wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:51 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:48 PM
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Seriously. 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:48 PM
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You might not get lots of casual sex, but you don't think you can find a girl for a LTR and potentially marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:47 PM
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If an average man thinks he gets to make all the decisions because he has testicles, that I should do 80% of the household work, 75% of the childcare, and all the cooking while working full time, yah, not marrying that. Not even dating it. Sure as fuck, no kids with that man. Why would I? What on earth does he give me that makes up for all the extra hours of work I'd have to do for years. Penis? Welp, as you point that out, if I really wanted that, I could find it on speed dial.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:46 PM
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Bingo. They want to use economic terms but utterly fail to understand what they are saying. In a free market, your price is set by what buyers are willing to pay. A 10/10 man is a 10/10 man because every woman on the planet will pick him. That's it. If you think you are a 7/10 man, but no one shows interest, you aren't. I'll say that this is, really, an imperfect analogy. And people are human and this isn't a true market. I don't care if people think my husband is a 3/10, 5/10, or what, he is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:44 PM
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I agree 100%. And men should consider the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:39 PM
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It's the same in the US and I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:39 PM
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"Every single female mammal on this planet does not care about looks matches but goes for the best male possible" Men go for the best mate possible too, AngelEyes. They want the hottest they can get. No 5/10 man is turning down a 8/10 woman because she's out of his league
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:38 PM
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"Willing to lay pipe." Women don't want to just have mediocre sex dude. JFC. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:37 PM
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Are Women the choosers? Yes or no? Men and women are both choosers. Has anyone made you date a middle aged fat woman with three kids? No? Congratulations, you have choice. Objectively realistically speaking, women live in the best dating market off all time. There was never an era where you could get as much bang for your buck as today. If you believe in the 60s a average Women was easily pulling male models like today, you have no base off reality, sorry. Yes, it is better than the 60s. Why? Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:36 PM
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Oh, that's easy. How much work does the man bring versus what he offers. Is the juice - to quote red pill - worth the squeeze. As a single woman, she gets to go where she wants, do what she wants, has the house as clean or as dirty as she wants. She can go on girl trips or work extra hours. Does adding a man into that improve or make her life worse? If he doubles her housework load by expecting her to do the laundry, add to her bills by eating all her food, expect her to do all the cooking and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:31 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:26 PM
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I don't think it is as bad as you claim. But I think a lot of average men don't realize how much mroe work they bring to relationships than women when it comes to living together or marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:26 PM
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It is so tiresome to hear men who insist that they should "lead" relationships because they are "natural leaders" and "more logical" and "less emotional" turn into toddlers who are completely without agency in the dating world and it is women alone who choose. Bull. A dude may not have the same options on the dating market as 22 year old Raquel Welch (my personal ideal woman) but men in the western world absolutely can and do retain choice. No one puts a gun to their head if they don't get marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:24 PM
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To the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:59 PM
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I mean, here's the thing. If you start out insulting western women, why are you and OP shocked when they respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:58 PM
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the majority of western men get married or cohabitate by age 30-34.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:57 PM
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He's totally acting in good faith, that's why he had to trash western women as Anglo mish mash, while ignoring that the US is very multicultural and filled with women of hispanic, asian, and african decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:56 PM
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You missed where he just had to shit talk western women. What was the term he used? "Anglo mish mash?" Yah, exactly how well you think that's going to go?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:54 PM
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I'm not overly hostile to PPB as a half Cuban myself. A step bro is an ex pat married to a swiss girl and a cuz of mine is an ex pat married to a japanese girl. But see, they didn't need to go deliberately to poorer countries to score. Why PPBs get trashed is because of what you are doing. You can't just say, hey these girls date me even though I'm not paying for dinner - instead you've just got to call American women anglo-uglies (when there are many American women of Hispanic, African, and Asi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:52 PM
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Why do places like Thailand have lower birthrates than the US if those countries are so interested in family formation or women who are eager to date men? China, Japan, and SK are having gender war issues that far exceed ours. (Disclosure, my cuz is a ex pat in Japan married to a japanese lady). In the Philippines, the fr is 1.8 per woman for 2025. Ours is 1.6, so Philippines is only a little bit better. Arbitrage is a good way of seeing it. Edited to add: PPB is just betabuxxing to the max.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:42 PM
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You answered my question about punching. LOL. Do you ever listen to Ozzyman on youtube. Dude cracks me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:55 AM
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I'm pretty thrilled you posted this. THIS is the view that many women are starting to express about guys. If you want to know why women aren't dating as much or aren't so interested or aren't taking a risk on a mid guy with a beer belly who just talks "sportzball" and gaming? They are boring. It's a chore to have them around. They just aren't worth the effort most of the time to get dolled up, cook a meal for, be flirty, worry about the hair, or get into tight clothes after a long day. It's a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:53 AM
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It really isn't the woman's fault that a man cheated on her. Nor vice versa btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:44 AM
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That isn't a woman evading accountability. Artistic Bumble didn't dump you, didn't wrong you, and isn't your ex girlfriend. WTF would Artistic need to be accountable for? Do you even know what the word means? Artistic Bumble was asking you to clarify yourself. Or do you take everything everyone says on the internet is true and doesn't leave out facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:43 AM
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"You can only manipulate the willing, never the unwilling." Men like you are Madison Avenue's dream. Sounds like to me you are just mad that a woman is less likely to fall for a line of bullshit from an ugly man. Have you watched how stupid men are around a pretty girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:41 AM
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"There is a possibility that he cheated without any misdeed from woman's side, but this is rarely the case." a classic example of men refusing to take accountability. No matter how egregious his actions, it is somehow the woman's fault. This is why it's complete bullshit when men cry about accountability here. They just want to blame shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:40 AM
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"But cheating and generally treating people like shit is not illegal.' You all just keep hanging out with Chad, best buds, cover for his cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:36 AM
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Because men have no morals, no standards, and no ethics? Men are all cheating dogs? Pretty Misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:35 AM
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In general I agree with much of what you said, but I want to take issue with this: " why she is so picky." This again puts the pressure on women that they have to lower their standards because obviously she must be picking too hot of guys. Did you lower your physical standards when you realized you couldn't find what you were looking for stateside? No?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:33 AM
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brava. I believe in accountability and I took it seriously after my first marriage was a disaster. I went to counseling etc. etc. It is not something that gets hashed out online. But way too many guys here use accountability here as a way to deflect away from male responsibility. They take a good thing - we can only ever control our own actions - and turn it into a cudgel to beat the woman and forever excuse the man. Chads are dogs because women let them be. Chads cheat because they can. If a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:29 AM
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Considering the fertility rate per woman in the use is 1.6, very few women are having three kids with three separate baby daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:17 AM
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I agree with this - and I don't think it is ragebait. It is so so important to simply learn how to speak to other people, see what lands and what doesn't, what makes chemistry and what doesn't. Being relaxed and comfortable in yourself allows for conversation to flow more freely. And you aren't so second guessing your own behavior so you focus on who you are with. Turn out rather than turning in. I want to heavily agree with this: "Finally, you would be surprised how some people can look so much…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:14 AM
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You mean men have such low standards that they don't even care if they can converse with her effectively. Man, you guys hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:23 AM
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I see this all the time. I dated a Cubano for a while. He loved that I was half cuban but look like a gringa.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:22 AM
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LOL, imagine thinking seemedgood is a white knight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:20 AM
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"Young women are disproportionately considered more attractive than young men, just like middle aged men are disproportionately considered more attractive than middle aged women." Uh no. Both men and women think younger is better looking. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2416984122 women are just a lot more pragmatic and more in touch with their own SMV whereas middle aged men are delusional thinking they are hot shit. The more gender equal a country, the less the age gap. When women are fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:18 AM
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Really? That seems to be a man thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:14 AM
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Yes it has been debunked. It is a massive outlier compared to other studies. It over sampled on LGBTQ It did not account for the fact that women date a few years older (2-3) and split the age cohorts right when women and men start settling down (20-30/30-40). It is incredibly common that a 28 year old marries a 31 year old and it splits that. and yes, men and women define relationships differently. Other studies show that 56% percent of 30-34 year old men are either cohabitating or married. Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:13 AM
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I want to be your friend in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:05 AM
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With all these ice deportations, I've been seeing quite a few women married to Polish, Denmark, and even Moroccan men. Rather surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:04 AM
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Man, you guys are so misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:03 AM
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Like, I really like Indian men, seriously. I like all the hair (fuck I am so messed up).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:02 AM
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Love how you guys move the bar. It used to be "he's out of your league if he's just pump and dumping", but now a guy isn't in her league, even if they date ten years monogamously, unless he marries her. What bullshit. Don Blow with the beer gut who is "scared of commitment" and "thinks marriage is just a piece of paper" doesn't magically have a higher SMV than his girlfriend. He's probably just hypergamous himself and stupidly thinks he can do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:01 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:58 AM
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If I dated and married that man, I was not in fact dating outside of my league. I hope that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:57 AM
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"This is a classic result of your inflated ego and worth due the current dating market... Women hold the power in the dating market...." So you don't understand the definition of "market." If there are many buyers for the product, that means that the product is valuable. Beggars can't be choosers. The one with the power is the leader. "Sadly proving the red pill right again. This isn’t a conflict genius, it’s the dating process." You should get with your redpill boys - they readily admit the dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:55 AM
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Down here because I agree in part. I'd add that this is not gendered. I had a very difficult learning curve in my early twenties as I shifted from doormat to "not door mat". One of the things I learned that as soon as I stopped being the female version of a "nice guy" or "simp" I suddenly had a lot more male interest. People don't respect door mats and only the very best can refrain from walking on a person who lays themself out there as one. I prided myself on not taking advantage, even when I …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:53 PM
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this I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:48 PM
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"Initiating is leading. Approaching is leading. Planning a date is leading. Picking a location is leading. Your mental gymnastics don’t change this." Initiating is not synonymous with leading. That's why they are - get this - different words that have different meanings. Leaders may initiate or they may instead sit back and allow their subordinates kick around multiple ideas where the leaders then choose. Thus, if I have five different men offering me five different date options but I am the sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:43 PM
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Actually, men cheat at a higher rate in those kinds of set ups. https://www.businessinsider.com/couples-more-likely-to-cheat-when-a-woman-out-earns-her-husband-2015-4 You should actually look at data once in a while. You know, that stuff that men types tell us us womyn just can't understand. Men are the weak link.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:25 PM
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I see. Yah, I don't share my husband's health concerns at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:15 PM
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"No Pinay I've slept with has ever asked me to use a condom." For fuck sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:13 PM
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When women have guns, they are more often turned against them. - gun owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:13 PM
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It's your life, but I hope you are wrapping it. I've certainly seen quite a few news reports of PPBs being drugged, although that is more Columbia, not SE Asia. I am not overly hostile to PPB. My mother is cuban, my step mom is german, and a step brother and several cuzes are ex pats. Edited to add - I didn't look at every SE country, but there are child support laws. https://www.lawyer-philippines.com/articles/filing-for-child-support-in-the-philippines-when-the-father-is-a-us-citizen Not Thail…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:06 PM
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Why are people downvoting me. Jesus what do you think this is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:04 PM
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There is colorism in a lot of cultures. I'm half cuban and some latinos favor certain skin colors over others. I have been told (although I am not black so let me step softly) that there are also some differentiation over attractiveness in that community with respect to skin tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:04 PM
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Serious question - because yes i agree that women sometimes overshare - what exactly do you mean? Thinking of my female friends, we will vent sometimes about frustrating things our husbands do, but we don't talk about money or penis size or some embarrassing thing that happened to him when he was sick. That would be over the line, I think. What else?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:00 PM
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“But I've had to explain why adding random men on Instagram while we're together isn't the move. When men bring that up, we're "controlling."” ——-> Hm, are you sure YOU are not the toxic one in this scenario? Right. I have insta under a fake name. My husband doesn't care and doesn't monitor. This sounds like a guy who doesn't trust his girlfriend or spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:55 PM
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It is so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:53 PM
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"They suddenly act right, submit, and focus on position themselves as a nurturing, helping, teammate with the desire to be a good mother and start a family." I've found that when a man finally finds the right woman, he becomes a nurturing teammate too, show cases himself as an ideal husband, and wants to marry and start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:53 PM
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I think it is correct that women tend to share more than men on personal details. I will also say that my friend's husband hates that she came to me for advise because he caught her cheating with three separate women. I bet he hated it, since I told her what her legal options were. It's a balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:51 PM
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"It’s one of the most common dating app prompts for women to say they want a man who can lead." Facts not in evidence. "If you are a man and don’t lead by approaching, initiating, planning the date, picking the location, you won’t attract women." You are confusing initiating with leading.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:43 PM
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it is a partner choice thing. Many women don't have that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:42 PM
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I often pick where we eat. You should stop picking very passive women if you don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:42 PM
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Non sequitur. In your black and white thinking, you miss the third option: you and your partner learn appropriate dispute resolution techniques where you compromise. I don't know how to explain this to you, other than you've never been in a mediation before or actually engaged negotiation. You and your spouse don't argue, you horse trade. You negotiate over what you each want in a house as an example - for him the back yard must be x large; for her there must be a garage. She falls in love with …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:36 PM
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Not commonly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:26 PM
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Thanks for proving my point about how men shame other men if they don't perform masculinity the way those men want. You just cannot comprehend that a more passive man might happily marry a more take-charge woman and be happy at it. Instead, he must be in a "suboptimal situation possible." If any of your friends did that, you'd tell him he's low status, low value, and "not a real man," and enslaved to his dick. You should reject such childlike solipsism and acknowledge that other humans have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:26 PM
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"Wise men have always valued competent and capable wives for many reasons, including the ones you list. But this kind of agency and competence are not directly wired into to male sexual attraction as they are with women." I think if you spent any time reading broadly regarding family formation, particularly pre industrial revolution, you'd discover that male mate selection has always heavily factored in female competence. I'll never forget a line in Laura Ingles Wilder when she discusses the rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:37 PM
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I've never heard a woman say that....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:25 PM
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"The scenarios in which the dynamic you described works is rare and is usually compensated for in some other way." Because you say it is rare? Sounds like a lot of rationalization to me. You don't think men telling other men that they're pussies has zero effect? Especially young men? Sure.... I've known many in my life. They work well. They are long running.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:24 PM
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" swipe left on Chads and anyone giving chad vibes and go for the good guy." Oh my sweet summer child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:20 PM
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"I've had multiple women in Southeast Asia cold message me literally asking me to anonymously impregnate them, I've had multiple ONS situations where she asked me to not pull out, and the average American women probably wouldn't spend the time to spit in my face." You want to be baby trapped?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:19 PM
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Yes it is, definitionally. If you try to include every trait, which men love to do because "women hypergamous," the word loses all meaning. Is a man hypergamous because he's always after a younger or prettier woman? Y/N? Is a woman hypergamous because she wants a taller man? Y/N If you answered yes, is a man hypergamous because he wants a woman with bigger boobs than he has? Is a dollar princess hypergamous because she wants to marry an english lord? If so, is the lord hypergamous because he wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:07 PM
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ah thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:58 PM
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There are some contradictory studies over having kids...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:57 PM
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The thing about all the truisms we say about gendered relations is that when we actually test them they aren't true. As an example - "women talk all the time." Oh wait, they don't. https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/145374253955/do-women-talk-too-much-hint-science-says-no And as someone who grew up with my dad, hell no. "But anyone suggesting there is no asymmetry, or that it is all culture, isn't a serious thinker on this topic." Anyone who relies on evo psyche or biology without citation is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:52 PM
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I think a big part is all the people pairing up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:31 PM
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"There are many studies showing women are frustrated by “the lack of good men”, in other words, they can’t marry up (hypergamy) as much as they desire. " When women say "lack of good men" it often isn't about money. "are encouraged to date down even more to prevent this often non existent loneliness." It isn't "nonexistent" either. Men do report significant loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:30 PM
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You know thank you. I had no idea how that was spelled and now I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:23 PM
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He's black pill. Enough said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:16 PM
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Right? The irony....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:15 PM
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Poor reading comprehension - the man controlling even "little things" (ie route and radio) by the power of the penis. You read in the insult on your genitalia all by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:13 PM
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No, you are simply oblivious to what you revealed or you are very inexact in your language. The decision to date is mutual. DMme decides but so does the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:11 PM
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More of that "rational" and "non-emotional" logic from men - "I think those women are unhappy because my feelings say so and they are all lying if they say different."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:09 PM
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Why is this so hard to understand? You all have incredibly black and white thinking. Many people are happier single than in relationships they consider bad. They would be happiest in a good relationship and desire that good relationship. But they know being single is better than being in a bad one. And I've got to admit, I'm starting to hear from a lot of women who are middle aged who are very happy to now be alone after going from family -> dorm - > marriage - >divorced/single
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:07 PM
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And men shame men who choose to marry women who lead. Thus, why we have the statement "she wears the pants in that family". You all basically treat men as less than unless they are attempting to control the women in their marriages, either leading to divorce or deeply unhappy situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:04 PM
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"In that situation, what I will often do is say something like this: "Ok, you get in the driver seat; you can decide what music to listen to and what route to take and I will live with your decision."" That is the rule in my family and it is enforced by all of us when we drive. And yes I drive. You people are bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:01 PM
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But that is the answer. And it is non-gendered. If you've made the mistake of marrying them or it has changed, counseling for better conflict resolution skills or divorce are the only options.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:59 PM
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More of that male leadership right there - suddenly men have no choice in who they date? Sounds like men are just too passive to be good decisionmakers themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:57 PM
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"Men never get to be passive. It's a turnoff. A huge one." False. I've watched many women led marriages where she's the de facto leader. You know who shits on those men? Other men- >"hen pecked" or "she wears the pants in that marriage."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:55 PM
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Quoting 1984 doesn't make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:52 PM
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It is not a biological fact. I cited newer studies above.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:52 PM
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This right here, all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:51 PM
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Disagree. We are a social species. Everyone needs to learn social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:50 PM
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True, he makes men sound like complete subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:49 PM
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Don't marry her. This is one of those things we recommend you figure out beyond whether she's got a great bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:49 PM
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I have a 19 year marriage and two kids in a slew of honors courses. What do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:48 PM
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Not really. My husband is every bit as strong as I am. And yet, we manage just fine in a collaborative setting. You all need to learn that there are many leadership styles and many versions of decision making process. https://online.norwich.edu/online/about/resource-library/10-different-types-leadership-styles
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:47 PM
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No. Men (and women) pay me a lot of money to make reasoned, rational, and intelligent decisions in my professional life and I have done so, effectively, for twenty-some years. I do better objectively than many men - I did better in school; I did better in science; I did better in math; I did better professionally. Why would I suddenly lose the right to captain my own ship the second I go home just because my husband has testicles? Had that been the choice, I'd never have married. And I am quite …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:44 PM
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I am a feminist. I get along great with men. I really do not know who the hell you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:37 AM
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I don't treat my male friends badly. I have quite a few. Men here think I'm some man hater, but in real life, I get along really well with the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:36 AM
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I'm five feet. I am married to a guy 5/7
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:33 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:31 AM
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pegging connoisseur is not a phrase I expected to read tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:30 AM
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I mean, if he wants big boy sex coins, why wouldn't he bring her a mass of roses? But he doesn't? If he doesn't want to hear her nagging, why not take out the trash? Because men - like all humans - aren't pavlovian dogs who start slobbering the second the dinner bell rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:29 AM
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And if men suddenly, collectively, decided to keep their dick in their pants, there would be a lot more low n-count women around. Be the change you want to be in the world. Or - hear me out - stop expecting women to be your mommy and push/reward you to be good boys with special sex coins. I don't lie, I don't cheat, and I don't steal because my parents for all their flaws, raised me right. They didn't tell me some dude would give me special roses for those attributes as a big girl award.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:27 AM
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If men want to see certain changes in women, they should reward the women who embody that ideal. I mean, men constantly complain about N count, so I tell them to keep their pants zipped - no casual sex. But no, "mah dick tingles." Men constantly complain about women who expect to have an elaborate first date paid for and refuse to ever plan, so I tell em, don't date those girls. Make it clear you want 50/50. But no, "I won't get dates." Men constantly complain about divorce rape, so I tell em, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:25 AM
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Good luck starlights.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 06:56 PM
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A little late to the show but my first pick was very poor. This is where I learned desperation buys a life of misery and it is better to go without rather than live in misery with someone less compatible. Here is how I handled it. First, when I did internet dating, I met them quick and in public for low pressure meet and greet dates. I met for coffee, a walk in the park, or at a bar for a drink. I wanted to put eyes on him and vet for personality immediately. I know that a lot of people look bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 06:55 PM
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"Studies I don't like are rage bait."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:24 PM
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entitled to any advantages? What? Men who are in shape do better with women. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:24 PM
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SMH
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:20 PM
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"s. Its not that its somehow a woman's job to cook/clean, its that those are the expectations of a functioning adult. However, considering we're told how much unpaid domestic labour women apparently do, its intriguing to me seeing anecdata in my own life of women not actually doing it." And I can tell you that the anecdotes in my life directly contradicts yours. But I also think it is a generational thing. There is a lot of men bitching right now that women can't do anything but eat hot chips. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:20 PM
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LOL. I forgot his birthday but gave him many much apologies for much fun and it's all good. He wouldn't expect anything extravagant, but neither would I. With my friends we just get together for dinner or do a spa day or send text messages. You have to understand that men sometimes literally forget the birthday at all. My dad - although he is unusually awful - forgot my birthday and my siblings for most of our lives. You need to understand that this is about mutuality and reciprocation in social…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:54 PM
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Your picker is broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:33 PM
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"However, what I notice these days is more and more men telling me their wives cant cook, have poor emotional regulation, dont clean..." Oh the irony. Obviously, those men have too high standards and are simply OCD. Men just have completely unreasonable standards. So.... is cleaning cooking etc. work or isn't it? For years, society never said that men should cook or clean. So why should women? "Whilst women do more early years childcare, whats often left out is men do significantly more hours pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:31 PM
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Forget your husband's birthday once and see how that goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:20 PM
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Right? My 15 yo and 17 yo do their own laundry, pick up their own rooms, etc. They also do household chores like loading the dishwasher, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:17 PM
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There are some guys here that claim all the efforts in arranging dates and having to carry he conversation etc. require quite a lot of effort. I think we even had a post labeling that emotional labor that women do not appreciate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:16 PM
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LOL. But you automatically aways got that one guy (the founder right?) as your first friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:13 PM
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That was your ex. My mom was like that, too. Most women are not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:09 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:07 PM
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My dad is currently suffering some form of dementia and will not go to the neurologist for any type of treatment, even if it would help slow the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:06 PM
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YES
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:06 PM
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So you agree that men are abusers then? And you agree that men are pedophiles? After all some men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:04 PM
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Facebook is for boomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:30 PM
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She's some 70s woman who men love to cite as she reaffirms all sorts of their priors. Of course, the 70s... when women were finally getting access to the same opportunities as men and didn't need to essentially prostitute themselves to their husbands for a decent life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:26 PM
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Esther Villar is not right
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:24 PM
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Love is reciprocal or mutual. One cannot take and take and never give. You are describing maternal or paternal love, not romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:23 PM
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reciprocal or mutual, not transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:23 PM
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It's called nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:21 PM
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LMAO, all the dudes here who whine that women just need to be "normal weight" or "skinny" to be attractive and then downvote when men get held to the same standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:18 PM
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High five for a short refractory period. MJ does make for some fun sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:13 PM
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Upvote for the bad taste. My husband and I discussed marriage together and agreed. There was no formal proposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:11 PM
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I hate how fast men let themselves go in a relationship. Everyone trashes women over it, but the studies show that it is men that let themselves go more than women. I don't like that men are coming under the same lookism pressure that has plagued women for years. It is terrible that women and girls felt pressured into laxative abuse, smoking, starving, speed, etc. to stay skinny. And I sure think its terrible boys/men are feeling pressured into the same shit and also steroids and growth hormone.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:10 PM
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Once was a skinny 20 something and 5 feet tall. Liked wiry men, preferred tall, but tall for me is 5/6. Ideal body for a man is a soccer player, swimmer, or a mountain climber. But would date bear type morphology too so long as not actually fat. Do not come near me with that beer belly. Personality wise, I was good with introverts so long as he's willing to come out with me occasionally (and remain so). Had to be smart. Had to like books. Had to like the outdoors and outdoor activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:59 PM
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I love seeing new places.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:52 PM
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Ha, I didn't want kids until my mid-twenties and it all changed. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:23 AM
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That last quote is beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:22 AM
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That last sentence - YES. Exactly. What a beautiful way to explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:21 AM
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I think that's true in this society. In certain european cultures, men do a better job on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:18 AM
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I am not expressing my personal opinion on the attractiveness of black women. I myself had a big thing for Grace Jones when I was younger and consider Adele James incredibly attractive. I realize I probably wandered into a land field and caused unnecessary offense. I was responding to colorism, which is a huge problem among my mom's people (Cubans).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:16 AM
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Oh sorry, I didn't realize I violate a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:08 AM
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"This is a reminder for everyone, including myself, why arguing with women is a major L." And that right there is exactly why all your protesting over "it isn't personal" is a lie. When you said "women" you meant me. And your "arguing with women" is absolutely meant as an insult to me as well as other women. I pointed out - and you've yet to rebut - that in every situation you outlined, it is the man attempting to enforce the covert contract, not the woman. Nowhere have you stated that TRP advoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:56 AM
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Did you equate doing chores in your own home to sex? LMAO. Fine, be a lazy ass, don't do chores, but don't expect a woman to stick around either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:38 AM
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"I encourage any man reading this to please don’t marry anyone who doesn’t have the utmost respect for you. Or else you’ll be ranting about these stupid games OP is on about. Don’t let lust blind you." Same same for women. Agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:36 AM
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"I'm not referring to women, I'm referring to Feminists/mainstream society, who do dub it "choreplay", and who are pushing this narrative." No, feminists are not. And mainstream society? Please
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:35 AM
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Choreplay is coined by men over in deadbedrooms, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:34 AM
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No, paying was part of showing off that the guy was interested and serious in courting her. It in no way required that the woman give them intimacy. In fact it would be really bad for the woman if she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:33 AM
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You dont understand what covert contracts are, and for some reason you're taking it all personally. I'm not taking it personally. I am pointing out that you are wrong and illustrating why. And per usual, your response is to accuse me of being emotional. Unless you've been living under a rock, you know that in mainstream western culture men take women out on dates and expect some type of intimacy back as reward, this is in the collective consciousness. In mainstream US culture. In europe 50/50 is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:31 AM
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Nope, you and OP are still wrong. The refusal to give sex just because some guy paid for dinner is a rejection of a covert contract. OP is mad because he is saying that in order to reject the covert contract, women must insist on 50-50. But that is simply another way of affirming the covert contract. If the woman lets the man pay, she's agreeing to sex. Does that mean every time I tried to pick up my drink at the first meet-and-greet on a date and the man refused to let me, I've agreed to sex? N…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:18 AM
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God right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:33 AM
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Expensive, potentially disfiguring, and impermanent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:32 AM
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I am giving black women the respect of listening to and believing what they say. And at least in the united states, they express that they are often considered less attractive by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:31 AM
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Bull fucking shit. The Khoekhoe would like a word. And there are plenty of black American women with their body morphology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:30 AM
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Counterpoint - most men are also boring and basic as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:18 AM
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Let other people live their lives lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:17 AM
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No they aren't sex positive. They want to have all the sex and shame women who have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:15 AM
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Every example is you pushing a covert contract, not women. The most relatable example is when a man takes a woman out to dinner and expects sex at the end of the night, its not something explicitly negotiated beforehand. On one hand BP will say "she doesn't owe you anything, her body her choice", yet they still won't emphasize splitting the bill .... I myself went 50-50 if I could convince a guy. But sounds like you are the one pushing the covert contract. What covert contract is she trying to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:14 AM
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I don't know. Maybe there is something wrong with me. I had a deep desire to be a mother and it wasn't rational. I had a very unhappy childhood and I was yearning, just yearning, for that feeling of a safe ring of people who supported and loved one another imperfectly. I do not regret having children. I do not regret the smile on my girls' faces. I do not regret the love in my husband's eyes. I don't know. I am incredibly incredibly lucky to have had a small hand in making something good in this…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:02 AM
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Because it isn't easy for women to be attractive. If you don't believe me, ask black women about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:59 AM
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I've read your comments here and never I been so happy to be a liberal feminist college educated woman. Imagine never feeling the pleasure of watching your wife really enjoy sex. Imagine being a wife and never having your husband give you shuddering orgasm. I've had that pleasure many a time as well as romance, deep emotional connection, and kids to boot. If that is due to my heathen college ways, my husband is grateful too. He knows he won't end up a dead bedroom even though we aren't trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:57 AM
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Aw sorry about your ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:40 PM
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". Humans have tried lots of different ways in the past to organise societies and we know what worked and what didn’t. We also have some very pointed opinions from ancient writers on the subject. Ignoring that seems stupid, but the blue pill does this almost reflexively." You think Ancient writers are the end all be all? You think that just because someone kept Cato the Elder's writings around that means those writings are valuable? Which do you like the best? Buying the cheapest slaves, working…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:37 PM
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Actually, most people recommend that single dads date single moms around here, even blue pillers. "For example, it's pretty clear that in the long run, in terms of personal well-being and life satisfaction, most women would be better off in traditional male-led relationship and should be denied the opportunity to engage in a promiscuous lifestyle." LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:28 PM
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LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:25 PM
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I think what she means is that in the past there were all these other people - grandparents, aunts, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:25 PM
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The post that sounds entitled is yours. I'm fine with the birth rate dropping to hell. And then maybe - for once - men will stop pretending that stupid empty gestures like "status" mean anything at all. What matters is what puts food on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:24 PM
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What the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:20 PM
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LOL. You guys say stuff like this and it makes me roll my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:19 PM
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It is a bad deal. - Mother of two who love my kids and did this all voluntarily. I knew I'd pay a price.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:16 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:13 PM
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Obviously, you don't live in Texas or Georgia or Alabama....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:12 PM
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Mothers have no status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:11 PM
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ALL societies except for maybe Nigeria are below replacement level. this isn't just western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:10 PM
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right? oh we get mothers day, talk about an empty gesture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:09 PM
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And that leave is for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:59 PM
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Men get paternity leave - as they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:59 PM
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Yup. Your ears will too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:57 PM
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Men here say it constantly. If a woman's husband cheated, its because he had options. They tell women to date ugly poor dudes because those are the ones who'd never cheat - because they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:57 PM
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my ex husband attempted to baby trap me [to prevent me from] leaving. It is well known fact that a lot of abuse comes out against women once they are pregnant. *edited because that made no sense. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:54 PM
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My sis is childfree. She's a really good aunt and I'm glad she's invested in her nieces. You'll be a tremendous benefit to your niblings. This is one of the reasons geneticists posit homosexuality still remains in the human gene pool. Childless gay sis or gay uncle still invests and is tremendously helpful for moving their nieces/nephews forward and they share some dna.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:53 PM
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Dude, good on you for stepping up for your younger siblings. A lot of the oldest daughters in a large family also don't want kids for the same reason. My bro was Mr. Mom to his son and he rocked it. His wife is a surgeon. He agreed to stop at one though, because it was hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:51 PM
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Pragmatically, your analysis is straight on. I say this as someone who had two children with my eyes wide open. The difference is in whether you have a loyal and supportive spouse. I do. But even so, I made career sacrifices I never would have absent kids. Financially, which is how this country only values the winners and the losers, kids are a complete negative unless you raise the next Labron James. And it is women who carry the massive financial and physical weight of it. Is it any shock that…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:49 PM
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You are asking for something impossible. You can't make someone agree they are toxic. You can't make someone agree with you. And this desire to rub their nose is their errors... well, it's human but also pretty toxic if taken to revenge. Your s*** stinks too and it isn't your job to teach everyone appropriate manners like someone's dad. I'm sure my ex thinks I am the devil in his story. Too bad, don't care. Don't care whether his friends or parents or cousins held him to account. His life belong…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 08:41 PM
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It's 18 years, not 21
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:39 PM
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They do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:38 PM
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"but she doesn't get to control his body to engage in labor to pay for a child that she made the final unilateral decision to have." First, please educate yourself about child support and work. It has nothing to do with bodily autonomy. Second, please learn about abortions and when and how women learn about being pregnant. Some of us have early detection boobs and know we are pregnant early. I knew by seven weeks - which is REALLY REALLY early. Many of us do not. It isn't as simple as just a pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:37 PM
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"And unless they were raped, they chose that. I think women would be much more careful about who they choose to sleep with if they knew that a guy could surrender paternity." Always about controlling women, huh? Why is it that women need to be more careful and never men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:29 PM
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I listened to Dr. Edel's advocating against circumcision when I was in my twenties. I told my husband when pregnant that we shouldn't do that to our son. He hadn't even considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:28 PM
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I think we should treat stealthing by men and stealthing by women the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:26 PM
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I am against circumcision. I believe men and women have equal rights to bodily autonomy. That means when a baby starts growing inside of a man, he can abort it if he wants. But he doesn't get to control the woman's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:25 PM
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oh oh I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:22 PM
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I honestly believe that men think if a woman fucks them, that woman loves them.* I think that is the only explanation that I have for men who will absolutely fuck some random woman they just met that day while simultaneously insisting that sex means intimacy. *We don't necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:39 PM
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THIS
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:38 PM
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a relationship anarchist?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:37 PM
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I disagree. I was just thinking about you yesterday - or not you but these posts you make. I was laying with my head on my husband's stomach just touching his skin. I wasn't horny or anything, i was just enjoying him. And i'd never the fuck ever do that with a friend. I think we can build close loving relationships with intimacy as friends, but it is different than those with lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:36 PM
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As a dateless kissless virgin when I was in high school and part of college, you'd be wrong. I had to glow the fuck up, which I did. Sure, I had men who wanted to fuck me and throw me in the garbage. Not suitors. Tell me how that 50 year old dude wanted to "date" me when I was 17. I have an ex-friend. She was heavy most of her life, with kinky red hair, a hooked nose, and masculine heavy set features. She could get laid. But one guy just kept her around while fucking his wife. And when he divorc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:30 PM
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YES
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:24 PM
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Oh fuck that shit. I wish I hadn't wasted time on your nazi loving jew hating ass. Despicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:23 PM
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I can vouch for the fact that Carnival has contempt for certain women too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:22 PM
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As always, "only women who agree with me are telling the truth, the rest are lying jezebels." - Says the very rational and logical man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:21 PM
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"... other than things inherent to a romantic relationship)." Very convenient attempt to define a relationship in a way that includes the make or break for men - sex - and exclude all the "shallow" things for women - finances* And yet, especially during times without reliable birth control, marriages with romantic love often did not include sex all the time. In fact, it was often considered dangerous to have sex when pregnant, etc. Many marriages become sexless. Sex is not inherent to a romantic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:20 PM
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Sex is not part of your person. That's like saying my husband's knees are "part of his person" and if I dump him now because his knees are shot which fucks up our sex life, I'm not being superficial. You all prove over and over again how very feelings based you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:16 PM
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Men get more benefits from marriage than women do. This has been studied, not just put into blog posts, so it isn't a huge risk for men. In fact, the fact you are sweating over financial losses shows you that money isn't superficial. Otherwise, why would you worry so badly about it? Sex is as superficial as money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:14 PM
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It's superficial. Guys here again proving that they are very illogical and in their feels. And the big purchase shit is irrelevant. Alimony is awarded in 10% of the cases, and 3% of those are women paying alimony to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:12 PM
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Then don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:07 PM
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By that standard, I guess men are incapable of love either. Do you approach the middle aged ugly woman in the corner even though you have no sexual attraction? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:06 PM
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I know right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:05 PM
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At first I was ready to light you up over this question, but I've read down a bit at your comments, and I see that you are pretty young, so I'm going to be a bit more forgiving. First, please look into the Greek categorization of different kinds of love. I feel this is more and more important for some of those who post here because English uses just one word - love - to cover maternal love, friendship love, and romantic love. And questions like these seem to make clear that some men here (and pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:04 PM
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When my husband lost his father, i was absolutely expected to be the rock. And I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:51 PM
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God yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:49 PM
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that is what is happening
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:48 PM
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No, your woman. Not all women. I have never told my husband how to do any chores. He does them and I am happy he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:47 PM
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Or after having kids. Holy shit the amount of people who turn on a dime when the baby comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:45 PM
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Then be single. Stop being beggars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:45 PM
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That is a woman that dude should ditch asap. She's childish and immature. If he suggests a place that she doesn't want to go, she should offer an alternative. Discuss it out. And if he's a museum guy and she isn't, you all are not compatible. Honestly, is the pussy so good that you want to put up with that shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:42 PM
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I must be surrounded by women who are exceptional, then. But we are all college educated and often with several degrees. In our lives, we run the social calendar, we do the long term planning for trips, we do all the day to day planning like doctor's appointments, trips to visit college for the kids, vet visits, cleaning coming in, etc. Our big move to a better school district was largely run by me. My husband also plans of course - he excels at long term financial planning. I let him do his thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:38 PM
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"But given that women have no problem with misandry such as treating men as mindless beasts where agression is in their testosterone-producing DNA I think it's fair to go back women-are-stupid-because-of-their-smaller-brain style misogyny." Strange. I've been hearing my entire life that women are less intelligent and yet I still don't think men are just beasts. Maybe you shouldn't base your views on your emotions and hurt feelings. Be logical for once. This is you: https://www.dailykos.com/stori…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:30 PM
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I'll take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:24 PM
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"TRP is generally about oppressed men taking back their power in the only way they can" Lying and cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:15 PM
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I do. I am pissed ChatGPT stole the em dash from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:13 PM
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the problem is that it poisons the pool. If you aren't dating, fine. But if you are... It's just like cheating women cause problems for me if I am dating men because men will be wary I am one like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:12 PM
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This comment and discussion need to be pinned at the top. Although my ex treated me very poorly, he was my first boyfriend and he committed to me. No pump and dump. When I ended up on the dating market in my late twenties, I was actually fairly naive of dating strategies. I didn't worry too much about coffee dates or demanding a significant upfront investment from men. I went 50/50 and met energy for energy. I didn't demand a college education or that he had to have certain financial abilities. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:09 PM
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"I disagree with this based on my own lived experiences." And i disagree with you based on my own lived experiences. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:03 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:02 PM
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This isn't fully gender neutral. The expectation to be stoic and mentally stable in a romantic relationship leans disproportionately towards the male side, do you deny this? Yes I do. Because that has not been my experience at all. This is also a debate sub, not an advice sub. I look forward to you also chiding all the men who love to say "choose better" if you consider that advice. There is an active thread right now that is just waiting for you to sweep in with the perfectly useless statement.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:02 PM
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Are you talking about society or in a relationship? Because you are comparing apples to oranges. OP is claiming that men do unrecognized emotional labor in a relationship, not that society is more accepting of when women lose their cool than men. In society, we have "boys will be boys". I know from personal experience and the experience of my oldest daughter who was harassed by a boy for a semester, that male sexual aggression is tolerated far too long. In society, women are expected to cool dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:44 PM
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Right? My husband has me do all sorts of things due to my nails. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:39 PM
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"How about some basic motherfucking symmetry in the initiation and courtship process?" There is. At least that has been my experience and those of many of the women I know. Are there women you describe - metaphorical pillow princesses? Yes. One of the interesting results of participating on the site has pushed me to ask my husband a lot of experiences he had on OLD. He told me about girls trying to set themselves up as sugar babies while lying about their ages. He told me about girls who'd start…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:37 PM
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Oh please. It's like men insisting they are unemotional when they are regularly and consistently angry because they don't recognize anger as an emotion
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:24 PM
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As if men don't regularly explode. Male emotional dysregulation is one of the reasons why they end up crosswise with the law so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:23 PM
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Some women are crazy. Move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:41 AM
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Seriously, we together agreed on the location of our first date. Him, "hey I go to this place and shoot pool, wanna meet?" Me: "sure." We didn't shoot pool; we hung out. How was that emotional labor? Or unequal???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:40 AM
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LMAO "Taking care of a woman, leading, doing the "emotional labor" of planning - wtf did god give you a 13% larger cerebral cortex than women if you're not supposed to plan." As if women don't fucking plan. And no man leads me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:38 AM
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This is not gender specific. And you should take a page out of the women's mankeeping discourse yourself so that you avoid high drama or emotionally immature women. First, raise your standards. I know you mean this as some kind of diss on women, but I guarantee you every woman posting here on PPD has told you to consider MORE than whether she is hot and agreeable. God knows, I've said it until I am blue in the face. Someone below posted a TikTok of a black man talking about how he was now able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:37 AM
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The one demanding privileges is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:34 PM
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Because respecting someone's right to date who they choose does not mean that women lose the right to date who they choose. It's the same right. You get that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:32 PM
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Ah, so straight men are all hypocritical and antiLGBTQ because they won't date gay men? Just checking. BTW, Loving v. Virginia struck down laws preventing white and black people from intermarrying. They did not force white people to date black people (or vice versa).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:31 PM
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It is ridiculous. They champion freedom to choose, not that everyone must choose x.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:28 PM
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No, not really. I am not sure how this flies over y'all's head. Saying that LGBTQ people can date who they choose does not mean that I am required to date someone LGBTQ. One allows someone the freedom in society to pursue those who consent to be in those relationships. I will not shame them or seek to impose any laws on them. I won't force a bi man into a lavender marriage by force of law or social approbation. But that means that the LGBTQ community needs to respect my right to date whom I choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:28 PM
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The point is that we all have the right to pursue who we choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:20 PM
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This stuff is so so so disingenuous because it conflates recognizing that people should have equal rights under the law to pursue life, liberty, and happiness with people's own personal rights to decide who they want to share their bodies with. What you fail to understand is that the underlying principal is that we all have the equal right to personally decide what we want to pursue, not that we all have the equal right to be pursued. And by the way, you don't actually demonstrate liberal or pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:19 PM
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And relationships are just efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:08 PM
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Sure cold approaching keeps society running. So many guys here really do undermine the idea that men are oh so logical and rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:07 PM
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No, it isn't because the burden is on OP to present his support.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:48 PM
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feminists did not harass the shit out of Imane Khelif, unless you think Musk is a feminist. JK Rowling that bitch did too but she's a TERF, which is not synonymous with femnists. GLAAD supported Khelif. I am a feminist and frankly thought the shit against Khelif was disgusting. Rowling is dead to me. I am stocky for a woman and have heavier features. I felt a lot of solidarity with Khelif.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:46 PM
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This right here is a wild exchange
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:42 PM
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"submit"? to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:39 PM
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"but most women seem to treat most men like they're potentially violent rapists by default until or unless proven otherwise," No. And I will continue to warn my girls to treat men with care and a level of suspicion. And you know why? Because the day they get into a car with a guy they just met and something goes down, men here will come out and tell them that they should have known better. I've had one physical fight with a woman. I've had multiple assaults from men. I've had my boss try to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:36 PM
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This is really well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:28 PM
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Imagine equating encouraging people to be part of a community to a Tolkienesque world war between good and evil
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:27 PM
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This. The Greeks were smart in this respect and recognized there are several different types of love. Using the AI short cut: Agape (ἀγάπη): Often considered the highest form, this is unconditional, selfless, and universal love. It is frequently associated with divine love or deep empathy for others. Eros (ἔρως): Passionate, romantic, and physical love. Named after the Greek god of love, it represents desire and longing . Philia (φιλία): Deep friendship, loyalty, and affectionate regard, often b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:23 PM
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this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:21 PM
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YES I think if OLD had little videos for men it'd work out better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:18 PM
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visual + action.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:18 PM
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Yes. Women in the bad old days also brought home the bacon, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:09 PM
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Men.... I do love their earthy sense of humor. I love their deep resonant voices. I love their hips. I do love a nice penis. When they are clean, I love a man's smell. edited to add re: women. I actually do like and did date women way back. I like women for very different reasons. I think women and their body shape is beautiful. I don't feel men are beautiful (which is not to mean they aren't sexually attractive). In fact, when men are too beautiful - ie, like Kutcher when he was modeling - I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:07 PM
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"As far as I know, there isn't an equivalent ideology targeted towards men that paints relationships in a bad light and extols the supposed "benefits" of celibacy as there is with feminism and the idea it propagates that marriage and motherhood is supposedly oppressive to women." Then you are blind, deaf, and dumb. There has never been a moment in my life where men have encouraged, extolled, or sold on the benefits of marriage to other men. To the contrary, the prevailing societal narrative is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:59 PM
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Correct. It happens to women too. They outlive their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:42 PM
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Sweetie, go back to your call of duty larping.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:32 PM
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It does need to be unpacked for men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:53 PM
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I;d expect you to be more careful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:52 PM
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And a whole lot of those who were pasty, did just as bad, and aren't. Hm... maybe something about our justice system.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:50 PM
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It's a dog whistle. The only way it'd have been louder is if he'd said watermelon too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:49 PM
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Thanks for pointing out about gay male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:47 PM
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Rome was not famous for monogamy for husbands or for wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:45 PM
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They are conflating monogamy with marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:43 PM
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Single childless women aren't new. That's why we have the terms Old Maids and Spinsters. They will be fine as they always have been. Men OTOH: https://www.the-independent.com/life-style/die-alone-lonely-death-b2573819.html
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:42 PM
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My best friend's father died alone in his little trailer and wasn't found for a week. He'd been married three times, cheated on two of his wives, ignored his kids throughout childhood. And then found himself alone, mostly estranged, in some trailer in Florida. Then he died. His neighbor found him a week later. I know you desperately want some kind of revenge on women for daring not to marry or to breed. But I really do not understand it. I know plenty of men - one of my old mentors in fact - who…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:41 PM
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No, dear, men regularly perform to gain status and approval of other men. Men seek approval from other men. That's why hazing rituals in frats exist or gang initiation. But it's clear you don't have the analytical skills to actually test your own preconceived notions considering you think "reeee" or emojis constitute a thought-out rebuttal. Teen boys and young men regularly egg each other on. They also engage in friendly (or not so friendly) competitions over who can fuck the most women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:31 PM
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And plenty of women have made the same decision which is in part why birth rates are falling. Interesting though - the guys you'd think would be the ones who really dislike marriage - those who divorced? They get remarried faster than women do. It's almost like the return does exceed the cost in most men's view. What is it that men say? what watch they do, not what they say?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:18 PM
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So which is it? Women want to marry or women don't want to marry? Get your narrative straight. And btw, plenty of the women in that sub are in their twenties. Again, men who divorce remarry more often and faster than women. That tells you right there that they got a lot of benefit out of marriage and want it. "Many men caught on to this and are now anti-marriage. Like no way you're locking him down when he has just started to peak." He can do that. More power to the DeCaprios among us. But it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:16 PM
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If you have an ugly chick and a hot chick willing to sleep with you, which one do you sleep with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:05 PM
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Let me know when men get pregnant from sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:04 PM
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Women should just go out with losers. After all, we know men definitely look for the ugliest, oldest, most unattractive woman they can find for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:58 PM
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https://qz.com/519572/it-was-normal-for-women-in-18th-and-19th-century-china-to-have-two-husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:56 PM
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So women do want to get married; thanks for making my point. The stats show that both men and women are interested in marriage at round about the same amount. "ronically men are the opposite, we start off wanting marriage and then turn on the idea as we grow older. There's a mismatch in the interest." Facts not in evidence. Speaking to US data, after divorce and after widowhood, men are more likely to remarry than women and do it faster than women. I will tell you anecdotally, many of the women …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:52 PM
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This is projection beyond belief. Everything you've said goes a 100x for men. Men are the ones who shame each other over settling down, committing, and leaving the field. Men are the ones who brag about having many different girls and bed post notches. Men. The call is coming inside of the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:48 PM
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enforced marriage, not monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:42 PM
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Women are just as interested as men are in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:41 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:40 PM
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When men get pregnant, get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:39 PM
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average women in this sub rarely brag about sleeping with hot guys for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:37 PM
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A woman may try it once. A most men are always willing. See how that leads to an imbalance. Even if I could go out - even as a married woman - and have sex with anyone at the bar, I don't. Most women don't. Most single women don't. That's why the average and median number of sex partners for women are still in the single digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:34 PM
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When men have to carry babies inside their bodies, get back to me about women "winning" under current dating norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:13 PM
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Who was the henpecked husband in Gilgamesh?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:11 PM
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""Feminists have been pushing the idea that this is untrue. That hetero women really just want a feminine, delicate guy who somewhat resembles a woman." Feminists have not been pushing that idea. "They are also pushing the idea that men and women are the same, resulting in no specific differences in sexual desire." No, feminists do not push this idea. They push the idea that women and men should have the same legal rights and that genitalia does not limit capability. So as an example, women may …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:10 PM
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Like is it hard to find a woman to top or a man to top?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:06 PM
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Funny thing is that gay men drove that quite a bit as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:04 PM
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So, I feel like Savage Love explained this about bi (Dan Savage used to be big biased against bi men in particular but he's moderated, so good for him). There are two sliding scales of attraction to others - there is a romantic attraction and a sexual attraction. Some bi men can be very sexually attracted to other men, but they don't really form romantic connections. And it also explains asexualness too - a woman might be romantically attracted to men but not sexually attracted. That's probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:03 PM
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You know, I might be a bit of a reddish pill woman, except I am definitely a feminist. Funny
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:56 PM
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Sounds like men can't control themselves and shouldn't be trusted with serious jobs. After all, all it takes is a woman flashing her titties to make him stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:05 AM
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More hyperbole. But go ahead and link to me a comment here that men deserve to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:03 AM
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"o why don't you do it? You had no problem sleeping with strangers very fast in the past, so why don't you do it to this particular stranger?" My body is mine. Do you understand? It isn't yours, it isn't Tom, Dick's or Harry's. It is MINE. I get to decide when, where, and how. Do you understand my body isn't a fucking bus? If I don't feel well, if i am tired, if I don't like how you smell, if I had a shitty day at work, or I have to be up early, I get to decide N
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:01 AM
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"I'm not any more mature in my late 20's than I was in my early 20's," Sounds like a you problem, actually. If you haven't changed in that period of time, woof. "imagine you were dating a man who was making you go 50/50 on all dates, who isn't doing anything romantic for you, and who wasn't getting you anything." My husband did that a bit. We swapped off dinners. He gets time to get to know I'm not a moocher, like some of his past girlfriends. And I get to know him. And our relationship bloomed,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:52 PM
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Hi, it's me. I was one of those women who really changed in my twenties. I've read a few of your posts. I was very naive, never been kissed virgin when I arrived a college at 17. I was very immature and pretty messed up. But by god, my mom had driven into my head to keep my legs closed. That means most men weren't so interested in me. Why would they? I was really repressed, no easy sex, no fun, no slutty clothes, and no bragging rights. I ended up losing my virginity to my first serious boyfrien…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:47 PM
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I think you should stick around. I think you add a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:19 PM
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Those were bad women. You agree? Then why are you deciding to engage in the same kind of behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:12 PM
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Gross. No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:11 PM
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Is that erika kirk?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:00 PM
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That applies to you too boyo. You all look up to Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:58 PM
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LMAO, I had the same thought dude. Fist bump.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:56 PM
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", when men are try not to be alone but find company in each other, hen they end up creating groups like the Proud Boys. Is this really in women’s best interests?" The Shiners would like a word. They built hospitals. The Masons would like a word, they helped move science and humanism forward. The hospitallers would like a word, they developed the concept of hospitals. Bowling leagues and soccer leagues are often sex segregated. I know, I've been part of them. I also had a ton of fun watching the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:54 PM
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I think this is accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:48 PM
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What the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:46 PM
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"I think there is a misunderstanding here. A guy can be loyal, even if his instincts tell him otherwise." I literally said my husband is a loyal faithful wonderful man, especially compared to many of the men who post here. A trophy wife scheme was a huge problem in my mom's generation. A 22 year old man and woman marry. She supports him as he goes to get his law degree, his medical degree, his business degree. He comes out, makes bank. She takes care of the house and has kids. He realizes that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:35 PM
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Score a new guy? Sure. Even as a married middle aged woman, I could go out there and get a man who'd fuck me. But that isn't what the guy said. The guy said I could just get endless supply of guys who'd pay for my dates but refuse to have any sex with him apparently forever. That ain't happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:17 PM
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Really? Where? Can you link the post? The dispute I see is whether one is expecting monogamy at the start of the relationship. When I was dating - since I was dating men - I always assumed they were not monogamous and would be dating other people until we discussed monogamy. If someone expects monogamy, that needs to be clearly stated in this day and age. I don't consider the guy insecure or pathetic. I think he should have done what he did - dump her. Their values are not aligned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:01 PM
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And it's amusing to see men so angry that women can do what they wish they could do. "he women pine for his attention and compete knowing he has many options and can choose whoever so his standards can be high because he is in no danger of being lonely at all. He doesn't need to pay for dates because if she does not pay he can find a woman who will pay for a date. When she asks for sex he can tell her that she is being pushy and that relationships are not all about sex. If she doesn't go for thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:56 PM
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Lack of absolute humanity? Little bit hyperbolic there aren't you bucko?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:55 PM
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Whatabout whatabout whatabout. I don't see women saying that all women are unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:54 PM
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"They play with chad, gain a bad taste about men and then take it out on the rest of the men and the guy she wants to seriously date" You are just confirming my statement - "The second he gets in shape or gets a good career, he's off cheating or looking for a new girlfriend, leaving us poorer, older, and possibly saddled with his kids." Chad is bad in your world because he hits it and quits it because he has better options or many options. He doesn't lie, he doesn't pretend to be in love, and he…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:51 PM
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Well.... different strokes for different folks ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:18 PM
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YES. Women can't win. It's the spin on the assault issue. Women are super careful meeting men they don't know. "Oh you treat all men like they are monsters - you are a bigot." Women aren't super careful, get assaulted. "You should have known better!" Men are the epitome of the scorpion and the frog tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:11 PM
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And it isn't true. A lot of mid men don't treat their wives very well either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:09 PM
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So basically the only safe man who we can count on for faithfulness and loyalty is some ugly poor dude. The second he gets in shape or gets a good career, he's off cheating or looking for a new girlfriend, leaving us poorer, older, and possibly saddled with his kids. We are literally worse off dated him. And you wonder why women just want to play with Chad (he's hot) or wait at the finish line. Wonder why women don't want to have kids or get married. Wonder why women want a career and education.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:08 PM
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It isn't unbelievable - that's the problem. And it really shows men in a terrible, terrible light. It also explains why many of the issues that men raise here are of their own making. So lets talk about what this one statement tells me: "So basically if he has options there is no chance he will value you, that's what those men are saying." You of course say - "simple, just avoid Chad!" but you ignore second level effects. It tells me that the trophy wife scheme is true. If I give a chance on a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:03 PM
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"What did you think the difference was between that and a romantic partner?" If something happened and my husband could no longer have sex I'd remain married and still love him. It is more than anything I feel for a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:44 PM
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No, you equated women with having a previous owner. It's gross. My husband had prior girlfriends before he met me. I never looked at them as his owner. I don't ever compare him to objects. (I've already found my person and did quite a while ago).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:40 PM
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And there are tons of explanations why early marriages are correlated with high levels of divorce, yet still you guys pressure women to marry early. The explanation is simple to me - educated women have demonstrated long term strategic thinking, control over impulses, deferred gratification, higher average intelligence, and also are more financially stable. They also are a bit older at marriage. That means they are a much better companion on the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:32 PM
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Oh man, this is sad. This is like a fat kid bragging about winning a race when he is the only runner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:20 PM
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mmmm banana bread is what helped me snag my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:18 PM
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I agree with that. A good man will withdraw or divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:17 PM
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So literally the opposite of hurrying to get married young.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:17 PM
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"No if at a societal scale, all/most women wait until 30+ to settle down, then LOTS of them are gonna be left behind. Except of course, we have generally a 50/50 gender ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:15 PM
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No, the real vice versa is that age and baggage of the man will also make it harder for you to attach to the man in question as well. Nothing will make me run faster than an angry divorced man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:13 PM
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" i genuinely don't know a single guy who wishes that his wife slept with more men before him." that doesn't mean he cares dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:11 PM
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"Not likely, since lesbians also divorce at a high rate, higher than heterosexual marriages. While marriages between two gay men have the lowest divorce rates. I think the most likely conclusion is that women just don't take the commitment of marriage that seriously." Gay men are less likely to marry to begin with and also tend to be in open marriages. Lesbians on the other hand tend to rush into commitment; coupled with a smaller dating pool, that leads back to more unhappiness. There is also t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:10 PM
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"A previous owner" Jesus fucking Christ, let no man who thinks like this ever find me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:59 PM
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"No it is to get a husband early." So increase your chances of divorce, huh? "Wife Googles keeps you at the age you two started to date. The reason they get removed is because the wife stops putting in effort." A man cheating is the woman's fault. Where is that post claiming men take accountability for their actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:58 PM
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Men cheat more and more as they get older. That is what the statistics show. So yes "wife googles" aren't really a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:55 PM
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It isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:55 PM
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"Casual sex makes women delusional because it gives them access to men out of their league which is why many men avoid women who date like this like the plague. those who are aware enough and have the options to do so anyway." Facts not in evidence. No one has yet to point to any evidence or even logic that having a series of one night stands with uncommitted Chads would inflate a woman's view of themselves. to the contrary, if I as woman keep getting pumped and dumped, the message would be I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:54 PM
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"it's clearly happening and there's a record number of women with a notch count in the double digits who have never been in a relationship " Are there? I'd like to see the numbers. Because you seem to conflate forever boyfriends - which is still a relationship - with those not ever in relationships. Women were complaining about pump and dumps and forever boyfriends in my youth. It isn't new. I don't know how many more there are now as a percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:42 PM
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Sounds like we should just have fun then and not worry about marriage or kids. Sounds great.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:38 PM
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LMAO. "Vet better" when you have no experience. Sure, dude. That's one of the reasons that young marriages tend to fail at higher rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:38 PM
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Yah, my friend was a virgin and married early. Her deputy husband - no chad - cheated on her three separate times.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:37 PM
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Sure, that's it. Every woman cheated on was just a repellant cunt. I guess if that's the lie you need to tell yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:35 PM
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No true scotsman argument right there. So any man who married a woman that wasn't a virgin has a cuck fetish or is "clueless". LMAO. Or maybe, just maybe, you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:33 PM
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If you care about long sustainable marriages, you'd marry college educated girls; yet, I never see any red pill man saying education matters. To the contrary you dismiss it. Tells me that "stable marriages" is pure bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:31 PM
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And? You think that's just you? I don't need to work either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:30 PM
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Men successful with women generally don't get insecure over her sexual past. They know they are the shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:29 PM
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No hymen got me a 30k diamond. You all are like fat kids stuffing themselves with donuts. You bask in the short term pleasure of popping a hymen, blind to the fact that hymens have zero impact on the success and happiness of a marriage. So you are left waddling around wondering why you're so fat as you stuff another donut in. If men were really interested in long term successful marriages, they'd be prioritizing college girls since those are the ones who marry and stay married, but they don't. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:28 PM
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So you men want to beat up on smaller men and take their money?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:58 PM
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aw I love me a dandy. He sounds great.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:58 PM
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I somewhat disagree. People can have whatever standards they want. We can judge them for what those standards say about those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:47 PM
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Sounds fun. Jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:43 PM
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easier how?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:43 PM
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seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:40 PM
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"Are any woman in your life competent? When boys 6-16 can so often be more skilled than women in their 40s, how can I call women comparable to adult men?" Dude, if you aren't larping: - you admit your male bosses hire 19 year old women to do your job based on their looks, and yet you still think men are more competent decision makers. That is rank incompetence on the part of your bosses, all men. - you admit you are still there, in a job where you are so competent, working for men who think you …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:40 PM
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"If someone is cooking then someone has to offer to eat obviously?" Are you twelve?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:05 AM
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In the US: - College educated women are the most likely to be married and the most likely to stay married. - Alimony is awarded in 10% of divorce cases (3% of the awards are to men) and alimony is usually time limited for a certain period of time to get the other spouse on their feet. Alimony won't be awarded to someone like me since I make good money. Once again, men proving that they aren't the logical sex and operate on feelings, not facts. Most lady attorneys I know are married. So if you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:03 AM
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Someone did a comment search of that "dental student" and before they hid their past posts, it was pretty clear they were a muslim that was looking for women. That sounds like a man. Look at the comments to the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:40 AM
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You speak about women's duties, but none about men. If you want women to cook, what are you doing? And if you say "tinkering with a pipe for a few hours" or changing the oil once every six months, adios.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:01 AM
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that's because you have some historical literacy. I agree wholeheartedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:57 AM
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intermittent fasting has been shown to improve lifespan and health
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:55 AM
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Scar is SOOO GOOD
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:54 AM
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I've recently dropped some weight over the last year. I look like I have had buccal fat removal, which is pretty wild, but that's my natural bone structure. But for the first time in my life, I'm a size B. Should I get breast implants? It bothers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:53 AM
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Why? he can cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:49 AM
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You aren't working either, boyo. I am a more traditional male than you are and I'm five feet flat with an hourglass figure and gave birth naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:48 AM
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Are you kidding me???
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:47 AM
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"Give up your freedom or we'll force you into a Burka" Keep up with the news, boyo, even traditional Muslim populations are at or beneath replacement level.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:46 AM
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Men are free to not date "women without financial backing" - no one is forcing you to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:44 AM
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Good, then you can stop trying to shame women into acting how you think they should and go find a woman who wants to cook for you. Keep out of my business of how I arrange my life with my husband, and I'll keep out of your business if you want your wife to cook while you mow the lawn and do laundry
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:43 AM
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But your entire post shows that men aren't looking after women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:40 AM
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"Women are the gatekeepers of sex." Honey, just because some person says it on the internet doesn't make it true. If men can't control their genitalia or base sexual desires and have to rely on women to enforce those, then clearly men aren't capable of functioning as fully adults, their judgment cannot be trusted, and for their own safety and security, women should be entrusted with all serious decision-making. After all, we can't let men with their slavish desires and hormones make decisions fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:38 AM
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Agreed. I wasn't disagreeing, but more saying this idea that the "traditional" process is "women cook" is not my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:33 AM
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I do. I am in a traditionally male line of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:31 AM
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If she's working too she is also providing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:28 AM
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He really isn't showing men in a good light is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:27 AM
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" requires so much more physical effort to do an oil change etc apart from the physical risks one has." HAHAHAHAH... OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I admit, it's been years since I changed an oil filter, but get the fuck off with that. My dad was a gear head and taught all of us girls how to do this. It isn't "so much more physical effort" - holy shit. My sister spent years keeping her Volvos on the road herself. One of my best friends - a woman - worked at Jiffy Lube for years. You make men sound so path…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:27 AM
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Men have to spend hours tinkering around stuff but you don't hear them complain about a pipe leak or a screw head that came off. If you can't fix a screw head that came off after hours, you are incompetent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:23 AM
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It's always such a tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:22 AM
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But if you think that women are only good for cooking and baby rearing, you at the minimum don't respect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:22 AM
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ding ding ding
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:20 AM
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I'm better at being a lawyer than cooking, so why should I have to cook?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:20 AM
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I'm not marrying any man who demands I cook just because I have XX.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:19 AM
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I thought causal sex with lots of women is bad for people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:18 AM
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Absolutely. None of us are going back. We should play to our strengths. Some men are great house husbands and teachers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:18 AM
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So, it also has nothing to do with women letting men have sex with them before they marry them, So it's women's fault men have sex before marriage. If men can't control their base instincts for their good of their potential future children, maybe they don't deserve to be treated as adults, but as children. or women denying the father of their children seeing his children and badmouthing their father to his children? Yes, some women do that. Oh what is it that men say? Ah yes, CHOOSE BETTER. I me…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:17 AM
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My brother is a gourmet cook and handles it all. My dad was also an excellent cook. In my family, it's always been the men cooking anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:00 AM
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Okay, that was hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:57 AM
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Is this another bait post? First we have some one larping as a brassy haired girl-boss dental student lamenting that all the high quality men are overlooking her and her female students for those bimbo dental hygienists and nurses. Now we have a dude spitting out, "get back in the kitchen and start raising babies" bull crap. So, short answer: NO. Longer answer: In this culture, money is power. Money is freedom. I am a decent cook - far worse than my father and brother - but I am pretty fucking s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:56 AM
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That is a very interesting first point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:14 PM
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So even in his thirties, guys get slack to be inexperienced. But if a woman did stupid things in her early 20s like a one night stand, she's not allowed to grow and change. Interesting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:10 PM
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You all are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:08 PM
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As someone who is related to several autists and married to one, they may want direct communication but they want it sugar coated. It's been a struggle with my child, because I'll kindly try to explain why I'm saying what I am saying, and she will not get it at all. Finally, I get blunt and her feelings get hurt. I'll never forget her begging to see a cat at a party. The mother kept saying "no" in an indirect way. The cat is scared of all the noise, no the cat is frightened of people. But those …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:07 PM
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As someone married to and related to many autists, they often do not want direct communication as much as they think they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:03 PM
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this is very accurate. And very often those who pride themselves on "telling it like it is" don't like it back at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:02 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:00 PM
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And do you see what happens if a woman sleeps with every guy she dates by date 2 right? She gets big numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:58 PM
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Yes, and? Women too have to wade through that with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:55 PM
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"dat twinge between your legs doesnt morph into a better one the longer you make a man wait" Oh yes it does. LOL. Mmmm, all the romantic tension, flirting, and teasing. Hot damn does it. Even now, I will start texting my husband when he's gone on a work trip to build the tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:54 PM
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You brought them all out of the wood work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:53 PM
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The sad thing is if that guy hadn't been in the gross sweatshirt I probably would have responded to that guy. I love fish, I like snakes, and I love the outdoors. He was okay. I prefer to judge people in person. I wouldn't be keen on more than 32 snakes though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:52 PM
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A virgin? Are you one? No? Guess you have a history of doing stupid stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:50 PM
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Strangely enough, I don't feel that way. I think people make mistakes and people change. Sometimes they should have known better, but I'd rather help them navigate out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:48 PM
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Do they? Not around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:47 PM
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Hit a nerve, did I? You said this; "The vast majority of people aren't bashing women that their tendency is to wait for relationship. The criticism is from the switch up. One set of rules for this person, yet another set of rules for another." You clearly do care who a woman fucks and who she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:46 PM
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"I don't blame victims for their abuse. Though I will say I do think alot of single mothers situation could have have been improved if they choose better. So you got me there. I woulf say the same is true for single fathers by the way." True enough. It's why I recommend aggressive sex ed. And we have far less teen pregnancy as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:44 PM
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" We went to McDonalds, the birthday gift was under $15, and I am not spending another dime on her until she proves herself both caring of me and willing to do everything I want in bed." Actually I agree with the "prove herself caring of me." I believe matching energy with energy. I bought my husband a bottle of very expensive scotch when we first started dating. He was a lot less concerned about spending money on me and being taken advantage of. Match energy with energy. After six months, my no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:39 PM
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For it to be a fallacy, that'd require you to make comparisons that are actually in my post. In fact, you misrepresent what men here complain about. The fallacy is your attempt to exaggerate beyond all bounds what men complain about in an effort to make their complaints seem reasonable. Why don't you stick to what they actually say? Far less defensible I guess. Men here are not complaining that they are being dead-bedroomed by a woman with three kids by three different baby daddies. And I'd agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:34 PM
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I largely agree. I also agree there is a bit of FOMO going on too. Some men didn't get to indulge in the crazy high school or college casual sex scene. They see the parties, they see some of their friends going, and they wanted to be part of it. I do understand. But they weren't the only ones excluded from that - there are a ton of people who never got that scene or didn't enjoy it. There are a ton who were deeply hurt by it. I think they need to look more broadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:15 PM
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Ab-sa-fucking-tootly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:08 PM
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God yes. Every time I hear a man say he only cares if the woman is hot and agreeable, I roll my eyes. And when she's gets older, is dull as ditchwater, and spends your money, you might feel differently. If my husband divorced me tomorrow, he'd never have to worry about alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:08 PM
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I know. But he loves to pretend he is so very very intelligent and loves to use the word solipsism all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:04 PM
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No, you still have choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:01 PM
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then I will give zero sympathy to any man who screams divorce rape after his wife cheated on him. I'm sure there was a pool of much ugler women waiting around but he picked the prettiest one around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:59 PM
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Do you understand the concept of time? I agree if someone is engaging in hook ups at that time but makes you wait, that's bullshit and move on. But if you are bitching about someone who engaged in hook ups in college, a decade ago, but now isn't? You have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:56 PM
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Dude, I'd expect the guys used for money to be a lot more careful about spending it on me until they knew I wasn't taking advantage. And i had men do just that. You think this is some kind of gotcha but it isn't. I didn't expect men to over invest in me when we first met or buy me expensive shit or send me a dozen roses or act like a stupid teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:54 PM
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So, I'm curious. If you dumped a 500 meal on a woman and she ghosted you immediately afterwards? That wouldn't make you adjust your behavior? What about being an orbiters?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:51 PM
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", the charges that can be levied against most males is that they want to drag those superior men down to their level by applying consequences to their actions." But men don't drag those men down to their level. If they did, they'd criticize Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:49 PM
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Wilhoit's Law: "there must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:48 PM
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Exactly - you see it constantly all over this sub and it really is revealing of a very childish view that many men exhibit here - men who frankly are too old to keep expressing it. I see it in three places. (1) If she fucked him immediately, gave him anal, did threesomes with him, he should have done it with me! This refuses to recognize the concept of either time or growth. Often women are drunk or naive, say in their late teens or early twenties. Often they were pressured into it - that happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:46 PM
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aw baby, I am so so sorry for you and your little girl
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:43 AM
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He is confusing bad with broken. People who pick abusive partners in a pattern (as versus a one off) often have issues - they might not be bad, but often they have poor relationship skills that will drive normies nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:37 AM
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Girlllll I feel you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:35 AM
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People here really do look at things as black and white. It's all gray. It's not that a woman has to be bad to end up in a relationship with bad men, it's just that if a woman does it repetitively, it's an indication that she's got some internal work to do, likely has poor interpersonal skills, and may be a poor match for a decent man. This, btw, works entirely in the other direction as well. Men too can get sucked into relationships with bad women That doesn't necessarily make them bad, but if …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:31 AM
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This is based merely on my observation, with all the flaws that entails. But my experience is that people - people - value what is hard to obtain, not easy. Some men don't respect women who make it too easy. If a woman makes it too easy, then some men don't value and take that woman for granted. That's entirely the point of the Rules. It isn't necessarily about jumping into bed too early. I jumped into bed pretty quickly for my now husband. But he, a real prince among men, started to get a littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:07 AM
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"But what if the situation is one that has lasted the whole relationship?" Cut bait early on. "I agree. But I also feel like women misrepresent their libido. Either hidding how expansive it was or pretending that it is bigger than it is . Both of these are common enough" How would you know? You have no first hand experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:02 PM
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So I've read through most of your posts here. You've never had casual sex. You've never had sex in a relationship. I can't even tell if you've been in a dating relationship. So no first hand real world experience of male-female sexual dynamics whether short term or long term? And yet, you are raging - absolutely raging - over a hypothesis that any woman you are in a long term relationship with, who loves you, is going to give you bland, vanilla, boring sex despite loving that person. It hasn't e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:00 PM
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He was quite good at getting women. My ex-h did more to make me feel insecure. Long and short of it, I met my now husband who rocks my world and I am not tempted by a pretty face.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:32 AM
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This exactly it. Real estate developers - at least where I am - have a reputation that is earned by being slick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:31 AM
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Me. All those values you claim women don't care about - is he loyal, is he faithful, and is he honest? Yah, I do care about that. I wanted a stable life and kids. He didn't want kids. And his business practices were a bit too sharp for me - not a surprise with real estate developers. I'm very risk adverse as a personality trait. The longer I dated him, the more I got a eyeful into his financial dealings (and I'm an attorney so he liked having the extra brain). I spoke with a mentor who pointed o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:31 AM
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Then men should consider the intelligence, education, and employment of their dates, but they don't. Or say they don't here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:48 PM
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But men don't care about the moral quality or intelligence of the women they date - or so they say here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:46 PM
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That was so interesting. That gross sweatshirt would have ended it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:45 PM
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Why are you asking for a woman that you've never seen someone like you have? You heir to a massive fortune?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:43 PM
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I did the SAHM routine for a bit. I of course took care of everything in the home, top to bottom, and yes cooked all our dinners. But he isn't just asking for a SAHW. He wants a SAHW who is really hot and submissive and in her twenties. You have to offer a lot for a girl like that to marry you. Usually it's money. And girls who marry really rich guys to be trophy wives aren't picking up the mop or getting dirt under her manicured nails. I've known a few of those. She'd also have to be extraordin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:41 PM
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100% agreed. Men fuck up and fail. And they may start great and then get mired in addictions or other issues. Just like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:36 PM
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Why don't you follow her lead then. Isn't that admirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:34 PM
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Why are you expecting your partner to give to you but not give to her. If her submission to you is loving you - i.e, letting you lead - then why aren't you doing the same for her? Why aren't you submitting to her and letting her lead. I hear this compartmentalism stuff all the time from church. Nope. The love of a free person is better and more real than the love of a slave. Love chosen from a place of strength is better than love chosen from a place of weakness
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:34 PM
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I think my MIL is probably as close as you could get to that follower, let the guy take the lead, kind of woman. She still divorced her first husband. I admire my husband. I consider him better than me in certain areas, like math. So I follow his lead in math related problems mostly. He would laugh hysterically if you told him I was submissive. I always ask questions, expect my input to be valued and taken seriously, and want access to all the numbers. And in my areas of expertise, I lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:30 PM
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"If sex work was legalized, then the actual price for prostitutes should be around minimum wage. She's not doing much technical work above a fast food worker." They are legal in europe and they do get paid far more than minimum wage. Do you all ever think to research anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:26 PM
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Sugar babies and sugar daddies exist. That doesn't mean you can get a sugar baby. And they tend not to be very submissive out in their regular lives. I've known one. Maybe she played that role with her daddies but not in her personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:24 PM
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That is irrelevant and immaterial to my question. A lot of men might want that type of girlfriend or wife - just like a lot of women may want a 6-6-6 - but that doesn't mean that kind of girl is attainable or available to men. Those type of women are hard to find, which undermines your entire thesis. Seems like both men and women want unattainable partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:22 PM
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No, I said what I said - tip top. People tend to date and marry assortively. Hot girls don't date schlubs unless he's offering a lot - a lot - of money. And, even in that case, plenty of hot girls won't "get on her knees for him." Personally, I never could myself, no matter how hot the man was. My right to make decisions about my life is far too important to me than to be a hot house flower.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:19 PM
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I know of whom you speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:16 PM
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My husband didn't care if I kept my last name when we married. I'm half Cuban anyway, and they still follow the Spanish version where the wife doesn't changer her last name. Her name is first name, (father's last name) y (mother's last name). I ended up not keeping my last name for a multitude of reasons, though. I took his.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:14 PM
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Yup, and it's also highly unlikely too. Pretty and vivacious and mid twenties are usually bringing drama - that's the vivacious part. And mid twenties hotties rarely see any reason to be submissive or do housework unless the guy is rich as shit or tip top himself. Literally - give me a near model hotty who will be my bang maid. Look, my standards are totes reasonable!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:44 AM
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Why would you care if you got the woman you wanted? Even if she thinks your sexually boring compared to Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:39 AM
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here is the deal - I am HLW. I love sex. My husband is the man who is sexually attractive enough that I am willing to fuck him forever. And he's the best for a LTR for me too. It has to be BOTH.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:35 AM
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And they should walk if the relationship isn't what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:33 AM
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But they aren't saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:33 AM
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Man: "I'm offended that you "only" want me for a relationship But we don't want our husbands only for a relationship. I don't know about you, but I still fuck my husband regularly after ... well almost two decades. I mean, I literally liked him sexually enough to agree to be monogamous with him for the rest of my life. He's the only dick I get to sample until death do us part.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:32 AM
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alcohol juices testosterone in women and reduces inhibition. One of the reason I'm quite pleased the young'uns are drinking less. Less stupid decision making.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:30 AM
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No, doll. It's simply that women aren't getting shit faced and also are a lot less interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:28 AM
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". They think that if a guy gets sex we’re attracted, he is perfect, raw desire yada, yada" Ths is SO TRUE. A lot of time it's MJ or alcohol. That's why frats love to mix girls and booze, dude. It's also why i stayed cold sober at them. One of the reasons casual sex is dropping off is that Gen Z doesn't seem to drink or hang out together or party that much, for better or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:26 AM
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How is it that most men are either married or cohabitating by age 30 if women are so unreasonable. Men want a woman that is submissive, presentable to family, attractive/hot, playful/emotionally stimulating (not TOO dry), not lazy/can do housework, not promiscuous, and brings peace (not drama). LMAO. And you think this is realistic? Thank god my husband didn't want a submissive wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:23 AM
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It's men here who say that men are only as loyal as their options. Why should women be different. So, let's answer the question - can i resist a HVM (tm). If you define a HVM as tall, affluent, highly educated, and good in bed, yes, I can resist him. I dumped him in fact. He asked me to move in. He was charming but a bit too slick. His values and future desires (kids) did not align with me. It was like a fever breaking. I later on went with my now husband who is my definition of a HVM. Do not re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:19 AM
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You should just start forgetting your kids birthdays, just like my dad did to us. He has never remembered our birthdays except sporadically. None of us, including my brother, look on my dad fondly, and that is one of the reasons why. It's an exemplar of why we don't feel very kindly toward him. He never fucking showed up, not for any of that "EmOtiOnAl LaBoR" that you disparage. And PS it really does fucking matter. It's what men say as they lay on their deathbeds - I should have been there inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:31 AM
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" Saying you don't help me with the child considering that they're literally either taking a majority or all of the financial impact of child rearing is in fact itself a relief." FUCK THIS WITH A RUSTY SPOON. My husband makes more than I do now, but I work longer hours. And you are going to tell me that because he makes more, I just have to work longer hours and take on the majority of the kids stuff? HA. If he did that, i'd divorce his ass and take 50/50 joint custody. I make plenty of money as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:27 AM
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" If you feel your partner it's not doing enough it means you need to recognize their contributions more" No, dear, that's a recipe for being taken advantage of - and i say this to men and women. Do not let others free load off of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:24 AM
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I agree. Women should just stop doing what they are doing if it is unappreciated. i got bitched at by my ex husband's family for not sending out xmas cards. I said, I sent mine to my family. Guess he doesn't care about you. LMAO. My now MIL is a sweetheart, but she kept texting and calling me about family stuff because hub wouldn't answer. I told her - I work just as much as he does, Cherie. Go talk to him. And if he doesn't respond, not my problem. She got pissed, but got over it and now goes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:21 AM
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Yah, i used to be stupid about not keeping score. Got me taken advantage of. Never again. I call it matching energy for energy. If the man doesn't think having a nice home cooked meal matters or having laundry done, I don't bother. LMAO. Suddenly it starts to matter. And before you say.... you don't know a successful relationship, I do. I am in one. And one of the reasons it has lasted as long as it has is that I made it REALLY clear from day one that I would match energy for energy. A partnersh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:20 AM
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I personally think the smartest thing anyone should do in a relationship is match energy for energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:13 AM
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i completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:10 AM
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Doing your best to turn it into an echo chamber huh? First it's all about how only twenties men can talk, or men who aren't married. And then it's how women shouldn't talk because it's too easy for them or "talk to the fisherman not the fish," and now it's gay men or lesbian women, as if they don't see patterns among their straight friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:10 AM
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Do you tell HR when you walk in to apply for the job that they are lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:05 AM
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You all need to knock this shit off about the Boy Scouts. No woke women "forced" the Boy Scouts to do shit. The Boy Scouts were in fucking bankruptcy because they allowed and covered up for DECADES of sexual abuse of boys, just like the catholic church. They were dying. They had lost all credibility. They had to open it up to girls and get girls in because - and no one likes this - women tend to sexually assault less (not zero, but less). Stop blaming the Girl Scouts and STOP BLAMING WOMEN. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:01 AM
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that cuts both ways right? Like that's the reason we have a zillion spin offs of Star Wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:56 AM
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"I'm not sure where you're getting the misery part from." Take a look at Psycko's posts all over this thread - it boils down to "women suck and are the worst thing ever and I hate them and no woman ever liked a vintage car and they are money grubbing killjoys who destroy their husband's fun." His hobby is wasting insane time here spewing anger and malice at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:54 AM
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Don't bother. He claims I used ChatGPT when I told him about how my husband's best friend died in a motorcycle accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:49 AM
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I love your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:47 AM
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Is this a thing? I go to DragonCon not comiccon and I don't remember seeing this stuff, but maybe I ignore it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:46 AM
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I get you. I have reproductions, and one 'allegedly' authentic piece. An old friend of mine would go to gem shows - like the big one in Tucson - and one time he brought me a copper follis - late (mid 300 AD), but its really worn. I tried to post a pic but I couldn't get it to size correctly. I've also been eyeing an Artemis coin. https://www.lostgalleon.com/1285-Artemis-Tetradrachm-Pendant.html But collecting isn't really my hobby. I like looking at it all, especially jewelry, and learning about…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:44 AM
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Only if guys like you are there. But I doubt most guys can tolerate the constant drip of misery. Fucking downer man. And not even cute to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:11 PM
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I know, lucid writing is very confusing to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:09 PM
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You might be surprised. It's not always easy to find a guy interested in that stuff either. My husband is... not. But I went with him on a work trip to Dallas and he dropped me off at a museum to seen an Etruscan jewelry exhibit. So at least he'll do that. And he'll buy me books and send me articles. It's nice. Oooh materials! I've been reading how the volcanic ash around Pompeii was one of the secrets to the durability of Roman concrete. Okay, I have to go finish my work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:05 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:00 PM
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h, good! You’re an exception! Therefore everything I just said is forever wrong! It is, because your view is always and forever women suck and are awful. You see the world through a glass darkly. It's pretty pitiful. I and my sister always preferred male hobbies - guns, cars, the roman empire, and always had to deal with shitty men either patronizing us or doin what you are doing. Whatever. My story is about as relevant as yours then. I’ve never seen a woman doing anything but screeching and tea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:58 PM
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And we know that no matter what you say, it will completely choked with malice and bile towards women. I've been part of a D&D group for the last three years. No one is bitching about barbarians.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:46 PM
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If you want a fun primary source, read The Secret History by Procopius. As to math... phew, sorry dude. I took calculus and statistics and then said no mas!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:44 PM
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My dad used to do vintage car restoration - his kick was triumphs. I'm glad he never had your attitude and always included me and my sister. And why would a woman who is a motorcyclist bitch about it being dangerous? This view is really messed up and off center.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:27 PM
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Never. Have you been part of a D&D group? I have - with men and women. This doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:25 PM
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Have you read Byzantium by Judith Herrin?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:20 PM
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I will. I've been on a fiction kick with Steven Saylor's Gordianus series and Colleen McCullough. And of course, the granddaddy of them all - I, Claudius. For non, my most recent was Pax by Tom Holland, a Jew Among Romans, and Rome and Jerusalem: The Clash of Ancient Civilizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:19 PM
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That's pretty cool. It's on my bucket list. I was supposed to go over Thanksgiving and then... Well, things are nuts around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:05 PM
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Have you seen the beautiful Roman glass that is found in and around Jerusalem that they turn into jewelry? Gorgeous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:00 PM
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"authenticity" in a hobby is kind of... hmmm. Things always change
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:59 PM
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Oooooooooooooooo!!!!! Raises hand. When I was in highschool, I developed my own independent study class on the Roman slave economy during the empire! It focused on the western part of the Roman empire (before the split). I have planned a trip to Italy to spend a week in and around the Bay of Capri to visit Pompeii, Herculaneum, and the Phleghraean Fields! One thing I can't wait to see in Pompeii is the plaster wall frieze that was in mid-painting when the painters fled the eruption. I also can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:58 PM
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Goddamned. There is a lot of jewels in there among all the cussing. I tend to like men, especially mine, but still, some gems in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:40 AM
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"As per usual women play it on easy mode .Try getting your looks match as a man, you have to do A LOT more than be thin, "educated", 'debt free'" I mean, my husband only needed to be debt free, in shape, and we both made the same amount of money. We were/are educated. We both had our own cars, houses, and matching salaries. I'm a lawyer and was at the time. We were looks matched. So it literally was enough for my husband to get someone at his same level. I will admit, he's pretty fucking amazing…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:38 AM
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But this lady wasn't being attacked by highway robbers in an empty area was she? She as on a busy street.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:27 AM
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scene and women also are protecting and rescuing people after natural disasters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:25 AM
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And there are men (you) here that don't understand that it is absolutely a feminine gender role to be a momma bear and protector. Your version of female gender role with x,y,z traits aren't the same as everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:24 AM
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Your question wasn't whether the woman was sensible or not for fighting over the phone; your question was whether he was a coward for running off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:22 AM
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So you are saying that women when they didn't make any money were forced into marriages. Checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:19 AM
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"but in general men are not able to be as picky as women or have as easy access to casual sex as them, so it's very different." Yes, because women don't engage nor want to engage in casual sex nearly as much as men. So? "Let me guess, a 0.01% chance that the man they meet up to date will be abusive or whatever (vastly more likely to be someone you already knew)," And women often go out with people they already knew rather than strangers, so why are you discounting the violence? You do acknowledg…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:15 AM
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"t yet i've had dating partners suddenly decide that didn't work for them and come at me expecting me to just change my mind and let them move in and offer a ring. NOT EVER GOING TO HAPPEN." So society isn't doing it, just some of your dating partners. Yah, that happens. Move along. "ere men are complained against because at 30, 40 and even 50's aren't just willing to jump in the pool." First, I 100 % agree with everyone's choice to stay single or not marry. If - god forbid - something happened …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:10 AM
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How would you possibly know though? Look at what men do, not what they say? That's why college educated women are the most likely to be married and stay married. Poor McDonald's cashiers? Not so much. I lived it. I went from the wall flower to being inundated by highly educated, intelligent, decent, pretty high grade men. Most of them were in their early thirties and suddenly realized they wanted to settle down. I did glow up a bit, but it was also the male's own version of AF/BB. They were done…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:05 AM
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Nah, dude, it's their married mothers and grandmothers who tell them to not settle on any man too early and focus on their careers. Married or formerly married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:38 AM
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So I guess women don't really want marriage or pine for marriage then. If marriage was so important, then they wouldn't forgo it unless the man is ideal for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:37 AM
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"A man cannot afford to behave in this manner" What manner? Waiting around for years, playing the field, having fun? Are you kidding me? Spin plates, party in their twenties and looking to settle in their thirties or not at all? Men do it all the time. Or what? They can't afford to have casual sex? Yes they can and they do. In fact a lot of men LOVE to tell women here how only they can afford to have lots of promiscuous sex, but the same is ruinous to women because "completely made up evo-pscyh …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:35 AM
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Who demonizes you for not wanting to date? I'm dead curious?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:30 AM
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"...nd being helpful first responder, nurse, volunteer fireman to now just deciding to walk away from basic society...." You know I don't participate in society for sex or marriage. I participate in society to make things better for others - men, women, and kids... especially kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:29 AM
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It's laughable to hear men say one word about "love" or "antinatalism"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:27 AM
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"Men don't care about her having her "shit together", that doesn't make her more sexually attractive to us (to the contrary)." That was not my experience on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:26 AM
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No, it's a factual statement about the contents of the responses. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:23 AM
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"It is a man's job to protect his loved ones and his close ones. It is a woman's job to protect his loved ones and his close ones."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:23 AM
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Speak for your own community. In mine, most men find a woman coming in swinging to help him hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:19 AM
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Here here, this should be pinned at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:18 AM
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I wouldn't have fled. I know because I've been the hot tempered girlfriend backing up the ex boyfriend in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:18 AM
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You all want the most pansy assed wimp women, it's sad. You probably think consumptive women are sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:17 AM
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Yes I do. And yes, I've actually done it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:16 AM
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If that gender role is protection, I agree if the sexes were reversed, she too should have stepped in, not run.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:15 AM
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He absolutely should be roasted on line. He's a coward who ran rather than defend his loved one. And yes, I'd say the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:14 AM
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A lot of us would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:14 AM
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He should be 100% SHAMED to hell and I hope she dumps him. And before you squall about gender equality, yes, I'd say the same if he'd been a woman who abandoned her boyfriend, too. And before you squall and call me a liar, I'll tell you I'm half Cuban and half Tennessee redneck and I have ABSOLUTELY stepped into fights to help my boyfriend, one time with a broken beer bottle. I also stepped in to help my husband when he got into an altercation with some other guy over a road rage incident. In th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:12 AM
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well, it is a bit of a rat race, and guys are starting to develop some body dysmorphia. If you ever see how much they tart up photo shoots and stuff. Cindy Crawford posted her untouched up photos and shit, she's gotten wrinkly, but she's also like sixty something. Good on her. My issue is that he ascribes very bad motivations to these women, rather than recognize they too are in the rat race trying to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:43 AM
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""No Pill Woman"? Here we go with a raging feminist ...." Rather an emotional response and, of course, contentless. "...against profile frauding ... " Too bad you didn't make that argument. If you had, it would be a decent one, akin to people who used to use outdated pictures. A point that I made. But instead you launched into a moralistic rant worthy of a two-bit Baptist preacher that most women are "fully drowned in the poisonous well of constant Social Media profile catering" and "consider[ ]…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:39 AM
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Since she didn't mention AI, you didn't. Ah, silly me, expecting anything more than childishness here. You just want to complain women don't look like you want. If you are concerned with being catfished, don't get emotionally involved with people you never meet. Romeo and Juliet scams have been around since the dawn of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:09 AM
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And male sluts make bad husbands if we go by divorce. You are warning all your buddies away from casual sex right just in case they meet the woman of their dreams in a decade. Wouldn't want to mess that up right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:12 PM
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People shouldn't believe any of the shit these influencers push.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:10 PM
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"What we do have is lots of data from dating apps showing that casual sex is readily available for the top ~20% of men and the top ~80% of women. Clearly, most women have the opportunity to have sex with the top percentage of men readily available to them. Are we really to believe that none of them are using it?" 80% of women could get plenty of takers - it has nothing to do with old - this is how it has always been. And yet, they didn't and they don't. Maybe women aren't that interested in a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:07 PM
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You've already outlined the male version of AF/BB. It always surprises me how very oblivious men are to their own "strategy" there (not you).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:05 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:02 PM
2

oodles of girls in DnD where I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:02 PM
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My husband monitors several major gaming servers. I see and hear exactly what he has to ban, and it isn't "slightly rude." It's fucking FOUL. Men crashing out, screaming curse words and slurs. the older I get the more I laugh at "women are so emotional." So many men tip over into fury.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:01 PM
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My daughter uses a voice changer so no one knows she's a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:59 PM
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10 fakers.... looking for a boyfriend. The goddamned irony in this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:58 PM
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Holy shit how men try to gate keep gaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:57 PM
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YES OMG YES.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:57 PM
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Are you Chad? No? Then get over it and do what works. Or spend your life wishing you were Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:56 PM
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LMAO. You mean like manly hobbies like gaming. I played soccer. Tons of men and women. Art classes usually had a few dudes as did cooking. And a man who cooks, holy shit you have no idea how attractive that is. Hiking, canoeing, outdoor shit has tons of women in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:56 PM
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right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:54 PM
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You guyzzz. JESUS. You all want to run on your narrow tracks, never branch out, never get off the trial, and still expect some ideal woman to cross your tracks. It doesn't work like that, especially when you are out of school. You have to branch out a bit if what you are doing isn't working. when I was single, I branched out. I joined a fun hikes club. I joined a singles group. I got the fuck out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:54 PM
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And a lot of male-centric hobbies chase women away - ie., gaming. Ask me how I know. Maybe get into a cooking class. Oop, TTripz recommended it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:52 PM
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We actually do. In my late twenties, if I had relied on just "finding someone" organically, I'd have been fucked. Most of my work was surrounded by older married couples and men. I had to get out and get involved in activities and things where single men might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:50 PM
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Why is it so hard for a man's brain to process the fact that women do do a lot of work to look or actively seek people out?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:48 PM
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It really doesn't tho, unless you are really hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:47 PM
1

It's hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:44 PM
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If you have to strawman, your argument is lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:44 PM
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How about you worry about you, instead of trying to shame women into looking how you find personally attractive under the disingenuous claim you just want to "help" them avoid heartache. They get to live their own life and they don't need some rando trying to tell them what to do. Go live your own life and work on your own pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:43 PM
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This right here is a thing of beauty - it truly encapsulates male entitlement that all women must conform to their viewing pleasure. Did you do this on purpose? It almost feels like bait. I'm not attracted to fat men. Back in my days on OLD, I just ignored them. I wouldn't date jesus freaks who were antiLGBT or prolife. I just clicked past and ignored them. I live in the South - display the Confederate battle flag? Click on past. What I didn't do is post silly screeds on social media about how u…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:40 PM
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That woman is a disaster and men need to avoid her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:37 PM
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Oh, I know for sure it happens, and it happens to men and women. I too went through a glow up while off the market. Men also have their own version of AF/BB. They go after the hottest girls possible initially without a lot of consideration of whether she'd be a good wife or mother, and then change course when they want to settle down. If the poster raised this to me, I'd say three things: first, he is more than free to ignore her. If he isn't feeling it, he isn't. The reason doesn't matter. seco…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:37 PM
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Your "opinions" are just opinions, not the truth and not "facts." You sit here and claim this metric and that metric, but I see zero citation to any evidence. You "claim" that it's "different" for men, but I see nothing that supports that in anything you've posted. All I see is various vomited stereotypes and ignorance about history. Frankly, it'd be easier to pick out something that was accurate rather than all the malarky, and I'm not going to waste the hours it would take to deconstruct all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:17 PM
1

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:00 PM
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I think many men and women don't care unless the person has been very very promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:00 PM
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During the relationship. I knew because he was always twisting and pressuring me into sex I did not want, including painful sex. That is why I see red here when men bitch over not getting anal. I knew because other wives and girlfriends discuss the sex they had. You really cannot keep people in the dark about this, not really. Especially not in this world. While I certainly know that comparison can be the thief of joy, the desire some express about keeping their partners in the dark about sex se…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:59 PM
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The number of "we have no idea why this happens" in that PMC study is hilarious. And staying married does not mean that the marriage is happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:21 PM
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Pride is a sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:19 PM
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"she could fuck 10 good Men " Good? It's interesting you think dicks are so exchangeable. They aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:41 AM
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So, the last - sex being reduced down to the animal act. I'm actually not a big proponent of casual sex, but I think the difference between a good experience and a bad experience has to do with the quality of one's partner, and I don't just mean in bed. In a sense, it's playing the odds. I'd say the best chance for good sex is with a partner who is giving and open and trustworthy. And the best chance for that is in a committed monogamous relationship with someone who loves you. BUT, from persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:37 AM
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No one is being mean to you here, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:15 AM
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Virgins. You are all virgins. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:38 AM
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Of course it's bull. Christian puritans always imposing their religious beliefs on others. I don't personally consider it wise to have a ton of casual sex - male or female - but this idea that casual sex is uniquely damaging makes zero sense considering sex with out love or monogamy was actually quite common and always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:36 AM
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"I don't think majority of civilization asked men to do this either" Ask God why Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines, totaling 1,000 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:34 AM
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Ask her why David had so many wives and concubines if sex is sacred. LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:31 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:28 AM
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So a single person wrote experiences and you take it as gospel for everyone? LMAO. And I can find a dozen reformed promiscuous women who are happily married. Even porn stars get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:25 AM
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I've had zero ever ask. I did disclose to my now husband, completely honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:23 AM
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"To point out the obvious you may have an interest in a guy who checks all your boxes and finds out about that phase and drops you as a dating option. This is a fairly common. They may still date you or sleep with you but refuse to enter an actual relationship." But I had it on authority of men here that 80% of men never get any interest. So which is it? "Others have caught incurable STI's." You warn all your buddies about that - especially the ones who are fucking all these promiscuous women bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:22 AM
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"They are now finding out that those "mistakes" in their 20's can also have direct negative impacts to their dating options later." No, it really doesn't. " They end up with serious mental and emotional trauma from constant hookups and never really finding any real connection with someone." You tell that to men right. You tell Chad how fucking lots of women will just ruin hi because - sniff - he'll never find a "real" connection with someone. Of course you don't. It's only women who are supposed…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:20 AM
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I was a virgin for my first husband. It doesn't save you from shit. It was a disastrous marriage. I am super glad it worked out for you. But don't assume that being a virgin magically made your marriage good or protects you from a relationship being bad (not that I think that will happen to you, to be clear. It sounds like you have a great marriage).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:15 AM
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I married the first man I slept with. I deeply regretted it. It was a mistake, a terrible one. It wasn't so much the sex, although that was part of it. It was more that I didn't have relationship experience. I was so miserable. We were terribly matched. He treated me terribly. I was glad to get some experience after. It's not that people should have lots of casual sex, but that it's a good idea to have dated a bit to understand who you mesh with and what you want in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:12 AM
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I really disagree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:10 AM
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Hoe phase is like sex work. Really? Have you done sex work? Tell us all about your personal experiences with prostitutes versus promiscuous women. Or are you talking out of your ass like a typical Christian male who thinks the Bible governs reality. And you yourself say you come from medic background, most women don't and may not know how to handle all those risks which may end up costing them a lot. Yes, that is the goal of the shitty Christians - trying to hide information from their kids, esp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:07 AM
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"smart people know, they can look back at the civilisation and figure out this has never been a prescription for young woman to engage in any of this." LMAO. Oh so casual sex is fine for men, but not women huh? It's so "damaging" for civilization. What a load of hooey. In actuality, if you had ever looked back at the history of civilization, you'd find many highly developed civilizations like feudal Japan and the Roman Empire who were infinitely more comfortable with women's sexuality than our c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:01 AM
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Interesting. We just had a post from a guy insisting that men needed to get casual sex out of their system. I imagine some women can be like that. I was. I deeply regret marrying the first man I was intimate with. I'm so glad that I dated around a bit after I divorced him. Taught me what I wanted out of a man. It wasn't casual sex per se, just experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:56 AM
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Oh, he'll fuck her and use her.... he won't marry her or commit to her. He'll keep his eye out for the next hot thing and grab her, leaving her in the dust. Just like a woman might fuck a poor hot guy, but never marry him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:54 AM
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Some of us do like to argue. I started hanging around because my daughters are getting of the age to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:45 AM
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" they’re not worth the time and effort." And yet you waste so much time venting at them, about them, around them.... Men would crumble the second they had period pain or labor pain. And we've watched it happen. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KBMXUvaHQEQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmgHze1Ncxc Funny as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:42 AM
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OOHHHH I recently watched a Youtube video that reconstrued the dress for the "greensleeves" song! I love seeing all the historical reconstruction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VVO0MLRrXQ
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:36 AM
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Your envy is flattering and rather sad (for you).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:34 AM
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Well and it isn't like women don't make their interest known even if they don't directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:26 AM
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And women were told they'd be alone and no man would ever want them when they decided to pursue career. Hell, even to this day, there are manosphere guys like Orion Taraban, Psy.D. who say that women who focus on their career will never get a high status man. Society didn't just "free women" from their gender norms, boyo. If you think that, wake the f up. To this day, men here shit and piss all over women for being "sluts" or "unfeminine." They bitch about women being "disagreeable." Men regular…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:01 AM
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Man, dude. My D&D group has two unmarried men in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:45 AM
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What is it that red pill says? Don't believe what they say, look what they do? Or do you think only women lie. Men can ABSOLUTELY gold dig just as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:43 AM
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Wow. I am gobsmacked. Sorry, I thought you had at least done some self-education. The only arranged marriage system I mentioned was India's class system, unless you think Bezos is in an arranged marriage? Oh, so you think modern day nobility in the UK are in arranged marriages? Or that we have arranged marriages in the US? Nope. Just poor fucking aristocratic men marrying rich heiresses to keep up their estates. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-american-rich-kids-bought-their-way-into-…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:42 AM
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THANK YOU, you literally proved my point. Chef's kiss. "And then we have one subjective way in which you think you might be more attractive than him, supported by some anecdotes," So are looks objective or subjective, boyo? It's funny how you guys change that around when convenient. Or do you think Trump is as attractive as Melania since looks are "subjective?" Just checking. But let me know how many strangers mistake you for your spouse's son or daughter. You wish you held up as well. But you'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:32 AM
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Wait, are we back to "women only want six foot men" bullshit now? I mean you are all over this comment section saying that OP's autistic husband wouldn't struggle with women because he's - gasp - the completely average height of 5 9. That's why it's useless talking to some of you - your feelings take precedent over any types of facts or data. Women only want 6 foot men, unless she's married to a 5'9 man, and then of course he slays at 5 9. Women only want 20% of men, even though nuance pill took…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:13 AM
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Yes, it is. You don't see how men treat their sex toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:41 PM
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"Men don’t give a shit about status...." Yes they do. LMAO. I know, you guys like to pretend that Jeff Bezos would marry the waffle house waitress if she was just pretty enough, but men don't. We see what men do. The lords always marry the ladies. The Ford Dynasty married the Firestone Dynasty. The second sons searched for the rich american heiress. Don't even get into the class system in places like India. A man might fuck the wafflehouse waitress behind the store, but he isn't marrying her or …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:40 PM
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Yep, now that women don't have to rely on men, they don't need to take anyone they can get. Men should take a leaf out of that book.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:35 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:33 PM
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ell me, then, since its number zero argument of all women here, how does that make them any different from any other woman?. No, it doesn't make them different than other women. Because way too many men don't look at women as humans. The irony here is how damning that is to men and yourself for saying it. Because I’m pretty sure « Men are pigs that just want to get their dick wet » is your ultimate answer to everything. Nah, see, I touch grass and live in society. My husband adores me for far mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:33 PM
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He is exactly average for the US, so wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:26 PM
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Let's see, I travel, exercise, write, run a writer's group, play DnD, and am an artist. I used to play soccer, but my knees are trashed. I see you get all your information about women off social media. You should touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:24 PM
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Gee, why do you have problems with women? Why are you even interested in dating them if they are nasty with a social media addiction. Seems to me, Mr. 1% commenter, you are exactly what you claim to despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:22 PM
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LMAO, nah, all of you guys with your "wahhh she just wants a six foot chad" laments have lost all credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:20 PM
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So you'll never ever say women demand six feet tall men again, right??? You really need to rethink how much your emotions drive you. We regularly here how all men have to be six feet here, but now you immediately change the goal post to claim that oh he's a chad at 5/9 because he's above average for the entire world. He's actually dead average for the US. You'll find any reason to claim that her husband has to be some above par chad because it excuses you from ever having to try. If he wasn't 5/…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:19 PM
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I really agree with this - especially the meritocracy comment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:14 PM
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Autistic women are valued for their vagina and are regularly subjected to far higher levels of partner abuse. Miss me with this bull crap
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:13 PM
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"Women are generally attracted to men who are superior to them - richer, higher status, better looking." The lack of self awareness in this single statement is breathtaking. Men here blatantly bastardize the concept of hypergamy to shit on women as shallow and money grubbing demonstrates how much men like you let your feelings and emotions drive your intelligence. Show me a man who doesn't want the most attractive highest status woman he can get. Or do you think Trump is far more attractive (vom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:10 PM
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which is good news, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:13 AM
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News at 11: a nice person who gets treated like dogshit by a shitty member of the opposite sex can become jaded and angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:11 AM
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And of course, they may have no trouble pressing a drunk woman to drugged woman into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:55 AM
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"But what men have a problem with is the unfairness of it. Almost every woman can have sex if she wants for free, but many men can’t do this" Because men. Men too often do not have real standards for sex. If they did, women wouldn't get laid nearly as easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:39 PM
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I agree with this. No one should be considered unworthy if they don't have a partner. I will say that I know a few single guys and girls. I don't know that they are considered lesser for that or morally failing. I think that this has or is in the process of changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:37 PM
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"The woman will be aware that she could do much better and the guy is replaceable to her, so she will give him poor treatment." And good for men getting out that. That's why a lot of women here advise men to have standards
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:35 PM
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This is hilarious. How old is your friend or you? "women favour taller, handsome guys..." Of course they do. How in the hell can you get through middle school ignorant of this fact? This isn't "red pill" at all. This is well known common knowledge that predates any fucking pill at all. Considering you use the word 'favour' I imagine you are British. Why was Henry the VIII considered a stud when he first was crowned king? He was fucking 6'2, very athletic, and apparently quite attractive in the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:33 PM
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And it's easy for you too, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:00 PM
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Sex only. Not dating and not relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:58 PM
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Because we do live in a patriarchy. Sex isn't the only realm of human exisitence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:58 PM
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Damn good
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:56 PM
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STDs are rife in retirement communities and nursing homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:54 PM
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Most women I know don't have sex on the first date and I sure as hell didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:52 PM
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It means I don't want your dick inside my body yet. I have no idea whether you are dangerous, you smell, or whether I want your body near me or touching me. JFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:52 PM
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I mean you sound like Grace Jones. I'd be doing a double take too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:44 PM
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claude is Anthropic's AI
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:38 PM
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He was doing it for a queen, dude. So would you. That's how you get all the money
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:35 PM
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excited to see some boobs = horny. And fucking gross
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:34 PM
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100% yes. Getting off this hell site
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:33 PM
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Pot - kettle
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:16 PM
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Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:16 PM
3

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:14 PM
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My brother discovered that when he took my infant daughter to the grocery store, he had to beat the women off. And no, he didn't magically grow five inches taller. Men are very much valued for their child rearing and house hold skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:12 PM
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How many men here dream of AI and silicone girlfriends. Is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:36 PM
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"ot just the pleasure itself, the esteem boost and i suppose some status." Women get no status from fucking men. they get the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:30 PM
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"Most men are capable of entering relationships in their later years - they just don't want to be the plan-B for a woman who's looking for a betabux after she's had her fun and wants to settle with him during the boring stages of her life." He can have standards all he'd like. But he can't be complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:29 PM
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Women didn't get everything handed to them buddy. I busted my ass in high school, college, and law school rather than drinking and partying. Eat my shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:28 PM
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This. But a lot of what red pillers pushed was just good advice from long before red pillers existed - Stuff like, get in shape, get a good career. All that helped me as a woman too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:26 PM
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I don't think so. I make good money and work out. If I were a man I could just pay a girlfriend to take care of all the house hold chores bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:25 PM
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It is pure and unmitigated bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:22 PM
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Is that why Trump keeps pardoning drug dealers? I guess Maduro should just offer Trump a share of the Venezuela oil fields for a pardon. We are supposed to be a nation of laws. We don't go in and topple other countries like this shit and "seize" their oil wells. Such bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:21 PM
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This is nuts. My 6 foot brother and his 5'4 wife have a son. He's likely to only be 5/7 - small for his age, but we will see. That kid has so much fucking charm. Seriously. You can tell. I can tell. He'll do just fine with girls. My husband is 5/7. Are you telling me that his mom should have refused to have him? He's a brilliant mathematician. He's a good man. He's funny and witty and loves me with a love that would drown an ocean. And I should denied having in my life because you loathe yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:57 PM
1

Ironically, I'm in Georgia and we actually pay our teachers pretty well COL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:07 PM
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" Then men by and large accepted this change." HAHAHAHAH. Did you know that Ruth Bader Ginsberg graduated No. 1 at Columbia law school and no one would hire her. Top of her class. Finally a US DJ took her. No, what men told us is this: you will die alone. No one will marry you. No one will have kids with you. And a shit ton wouldn't let women have jobs. Even when I was in high school, men said men don't like career women or smart girls. You can be and advocate for breaking free of the gender rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:00 PM
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No pookie, we just won't date or marry men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:55 PM
1

"Bet women will cheer at the carnage." I mean, you'd be a lot more convincing if you stop with stuff like this which is pure malarky. Women are far less likely to want war or to seek war.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:53 PM
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First, it is really good. Men always think they are going to hate it, but they end up liking it because Austen is fucking vicious to everyone. Second, Darcy is the ideal man of regency england - it was published in 1813. He is tall, handsome, and rich. He also was learned. As someone who dated pre-covid, the standards that are discussed here are entirely consistent with what women ideally wanted. Just like men would generally like a Scarlett Johannesen or a Jessica Alba if they could, women alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:51 PM
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It just means that it would be a net positive for society. The way woman are dating in modern times are benefitting a relatively small percentage of men and is arguably harmful to society and woman as well all under the guise of woman empowerment. Says who? My life, including my marriage and relationships, are markedly better in every way than my parents or grandparents generation. If sixty percent of men are either married or cohabitating by age 30, why are only a "relatively small percentage o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:35 PM
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So I checked. The number is still 36%. By the way: Principals: Women have become the majority of elementary and secondary school principals, reaching about 54-56% in recent years (e.g., 2017-2021), up from much lower numbers in the past. Superintendents: A significant gender gap persists here; women hold only around 30% of top leadership roles in large districts, and closer to 20-30% nationally, despite being the majority of teachers. Seems like men are still running the show. I notice that you …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:25 PM
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I'm curious, what is your experience in the public or private school system because that isn't the approach I've seen. BTW, I support more men going to education.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:13 PM
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So no evidence then. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:12 PM
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This isn't happening. Either none of you have had kids or sadly, never stepped a day into your kids' school. There was a preK male teacher at my kids preschool. He was fucking great. Just a natural. A lot of guys really are. No one worried about him abusing kids and in any case, there are cameras and assistants in all the classrooms no matter who the teacher was. I was at a Title I school two weeks ago reading to the kids as Elsa. One of the kindergarten teachers was a guy. He was great for shor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:09 PM
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I know male teachers man because a bunch of my friends are teachers, including a dude. Most male teachers are married. And yes, the younger ones too. The one who isn't just doesn't want to get married and he regularly has dates and women spending the night. Teachers get up to no good with other teachers all the time. It's like a hospital or a police department.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:07 PM
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Never heard of this "ooh men are treated like pedophiles if they are teachers by parents" either. My experiences have been to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:05 PM
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Yup, you all are being pussies because this - labeling all men as predators who can't be trusted around children? - hasn't happened and isn't happening. Either none of you have had kids or sadly, never stepped a day into your kids' school. There was a preK male teacher at my kids preschool. He was fucking great. Just a natural. A lot of guys really are. No one worried about him abusing kids and in any case, there are cameras and assistants in all the classrooms no matter who the teacher was. I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:05 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:55 PM
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Ah, yes, the rational male - burn your future financial security and face jail time (potentially) for a bit of sex. I'm well aware of what "men will risk." I work in insurance; I know exactly why men get charged more for all sorts of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:48 PM
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I have a picture with Vivienne Medrano. I was following her long before Hazbin was picked up by Amazon or she launched Helluva boss
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:42 PM
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If the man ends up divorced or losing his girlfriend and didn't want to, that would imply the relationship was good by his view, right? I think that's the assumption. Certainly, some men are married to awful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:37 PM
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Because it will lose him his job, likely wreck his own career, and cost him that fine toyota.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:32 PM
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In many cases, not all. And I say the same to women. If you lucked out with a great first girlfriend - and I've known a few - sure. But a lot of times it is unwise because you both usually don't know what you want or what you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:30 PM
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You too can get a prostitute. Go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:28 PM
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You too could have sex with a much younger woman if you pay for it, which is what this guy is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:27 PM
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"He’s got a hot young woman willingly sucking his dick lol." Willingly? Or does she have to do it to get access to the job? And why would I be jealous? I don't want to suck his dick or have her suck my anything. "He’s making her moan his name in ecstasy as he’s fucking her brains out haha. That’s pretty awesome." Do you think prostitutes are moaning in ecstasy or because they're paid? Do you think strippers really want to hang out with you? Congrats on your Toyota When I was 32, I was well past …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:26 PM
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Why would I be bitter or jealous? What am I jealous of? Please advise? In the US - don't know about SEA - using one's position to extract sexual favors for internships is considered abusive and a violation. It puts people without merit into positions they don't deserve because they'd blow the boss and it closes out fully competent men or women? That hurts the company and the qualified individuals. You realize that men - men who could be completely qualified - are losing out on intern slots and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:22 PM
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I agree we need more male teachers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:17 PM
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Men are very hierarchical. That means they are followers. I call bull on women or men being forced into their archetype. I have been, since the moment I was born, more masculine in interests than feminine. I didn't want baby dolls, I wanted erector sets. One of my kids is the same way. Why should people be forced into an archetype? i do agree the need for boys to have male mentors and rites of passage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:16 PM
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Have you ever read Pride and Prejudice?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:11 PM
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"Women absolutely taking over education and media representation" Do you have any evidence for this? "If you want to fix the next generation of men women need to stfu and get out of the way." Did men do that? No? then I don't think I'm going to STFU and get out of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:10 PM
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"I could understand that women could do that since they are more emotional but why do men lose one of the advantage that makes them men." Men are not, in fact, less emotional than women. It'd help if you'd realize that. https://lsa.umich.edu/psych/news-events/all-news/faculty-news/men-are-just-as-emotional-as-women--new-research-debunks-gender-.html We just process it differently as far as we can tell at this point. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0028393212000024 My dad h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:07 PM
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FWIW, this sub has made me more sympathetic to the few "forever alone" guys I know. I know for sure two who wanted girlfriends, were decent guys, but couldn't ever seal the deal due to attraction issues. One smoked like a chimney and just wasn't quite attractive enough to overcome it. I just don't think they are quite as large a number as men seem to imply here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:58 PM
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Ah, I get you. I'll answer as follows: First, prostitution is the oldest profession in the world and drove a good bit of the syphilis in London. I've been involved in litigation regarding sex trafficking today in the US. So yes there is and has always been a group of women having sex voluntarily or not despite heavy social policing. They also - going medieval here - tend to have little hope of a good position ever in society. Second, mistresses and doxies are also often monogamous to the man, ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:50 PM
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Free house? What? stuck in the 1960s I see. Most women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:39 PM
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Yes, becoming educated requires reading, not one sentence meme-jerks. Don't sprain your brain trying to learn something. Sounds like you are out of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:39 PM
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The last paragraph is not a strawman - it literally describes what OP's "mentor" is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:04 PM
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LMAO, I don't know where you live, but that guy is going to cost the company a lot of money if they find out he's handing out internships based on sexual favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:03 PM
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You are free to have NSA sex. I'd have called you a fool if you married your first girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:02 PM
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He sounds awful and a massive liability for his company if he's found trading internships for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:02 PM
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He most certainly did. That's why he was so excited to meet up with Friday. And I don't blame him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:59 PM
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Then why are the top 10 most popular jobs for women damn near the exact same jobs they did ~100 years ago? They’re doing mostly clerical work, nursing, teaching, childcare, etc. the only real difference is farm work is now replaced with HR. Do you think nursing, teaching, and childcare aren't essential building blocks to society? Women also make up 50% of admissions to med school and law school. Also women have always been able to be educated, including in the Middle Ages. Most people weren’t ed…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:58 PM
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" there should be no reason why literal criminals should attract way more women " Facts in evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:49 PM
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How does being honest require change?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:39 PM
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Just about every goddamned cosmopolitan from inception to 2005.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:38 PM
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"Modern women feel as if "they" were exploited for centuries by raising families and largely laboring at home while their man went off to work distantly, separating the family unit." Women were exploited. Modern women have essentially been brainwashed into hating the idea of sacrificing any portion of the self for their family and their society. Compromise is the basis of society and relationships; you will never meet your clone, broski/siski. Nope, modern women have finally shaken off the brain…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:37 PM
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I agree. What surprises me is how little men seem to recognize that women aren't dating because they don't find it in their best interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:29 PM
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"Ive yet to see a women who's over 45 single, happy, smiling and bouncing around who's also childless." My sister and one of my cousins are single, over 45, happy, smiling, bouncing around, and childless. They bounce around a lot more than me, in fact, because they have more disposable income than I do as someone with kids. Another cousin is married, but is also over 45, happy, smiling, bouncing around, and childless. I have two other friends who are forty or just under. They are single, happy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:27 PM
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I want you to have a massive incision cut in your gut and show up to work the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:57 AM
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And once again, an attractive man can also be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:54 AM
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An interesting, ambitious, socially ept, and financially stable man can, in fact, be a good man. I know, I married one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:53 AM
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There are far more men on the dating app than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:52 AM
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imagine equating a mint condition pussy with being kind. If being kind is so hard, no OP thinks there are no good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:51 AM
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He sounds like a good guy. Maybe he needs to match with an equally ugly girl
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:48 AM
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"Okay. Go check out that experiment the guy did on this very forum where he posed as the average girl and had like six total matches in one evening from all guys that seemed to be pretty normal dudes." Considering how many bots are out there, how does he know they were all legit. I deal with a shit ton of romeo-juliet scams.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:46 AM
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"ut women are a majority to reject the offer if a man with 80% of what they are looking for come up" I'd want to see that research. That would surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:44 AM
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This exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:43 AM
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"Moses from IT? That's not a man, or a person. That's just the interface for when your PC breaks. The waiter that doesn't look great? Faceless thing that brings you your coffee." This is incorrect and really, really, really aggravates me. I interact with many Moseses in IT. I know the names, faces, and some of the backgrounds of them. One is dude from Canada. Another is a transwoman. One is an attorney who went into IT instead. They aren't faceless. They are all people. I treat them as people. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:41 AM
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I see the logic in this comment, but I don't know if that's true. My husband became financially successful early - like twenties - and he was rather worried about women trying to take advantage of his money. He knows, though, that if I (or other girls) were willing to be with him before they knew about his bank account, he knows it's because I found him attractive. In the 50s, he'd have no way to know for sure if a woman is after him for himself or his money. For men who hate hypergamy, this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:31 AM
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The way they police mid and ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:25 AM
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This but unironically ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:24 AM
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And in the 50s, those same Stacies knew hubby was fucking the secretary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:23 AM
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Of course not, but they hate women for doing what they wish they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:22 AM
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What on earth are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:20 AM
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This is pretty obviously untrue. Mid men have been struggling to get girls for a while now. They are struggling now and now they want to back out of the deal. But the sexual revolution didn't happen now, it happened back in the late sixties. PUA shit is all about mid men trying to get an invite to the party that hookup culture was having... and hookup culture continued to ascend, mid men became even less desirable. The data shows that the hook up culture is on the wane. GenZ men and women are ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:19 AM
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And there is no data to support your claim that women are less happy today because they have sexual freedom. Meanwhile there are tons of documents that women were self-medicating in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Added: https://spectrum.library.concordia.ca/id/eprint/56/1/MM90948.pdf https://www.vice.com/en/article/here-lady-take-some-pills-for-your-hysteria-253/#:\~:text=As%20men%20returned%20home%20from,and%20anxiety%2C%E2%80%9D%20Herzberg%20added. https://protomag.com/medical-history/anniversary-vali…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:50 AM
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Behold the "logical male", who doesn't understand that correlation and causation are different. That little sausage is going great. That's why so many women after divorce etc. end up happier alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:50 AM
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"The other day through mutal friends told her “you’re really pretty” she replied with “tell someone that cares” Damn, warmish approach through mutuals. I am sorry about that. I don't think it hurts to be kind (although direct) in a rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:45 AM
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Why is it that turning a dude down is the same as treating that guy as nothing? Jesus fucking Christ, the last two times a guy tried to pick me up, I turned the first down because I was propped against a wall waiting for my KIDS at a mall with a gold ring on my hand. What was I supposed to do? Say hey sailor? The other time, I was at the gym and my husband was standing right behind me. I was polite both times. I didn't treat them as nothing. I treated them as what they were - not a sexual option…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:43 AM
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Because you weren't going to score anyway. Save yourself some trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:39 AM
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Betty got cheated on and divorced. She never got "exclusive rights to king cock."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:33 PM
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Seriously. Feels pretty fucking repressed, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:31 PM
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you've never been with a woman, but you still are going to pretend you know what it's like to have a woman as a partner. I guarantee you my husband doesn't see me as a hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:28 PM
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"In perfect universe, there would be 1 female partner who does not lust after bunch of other males on internet, doesn't subscribe to their thirst traps, doesn't pay for their protein supplements/sneaker collection. How good that would be?" Are you fucking kidding me? How many men do this to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:27 PM
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honor killings
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:22 PM
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" You invest in both of you, for your shared good." Laughs loudly. Ah, it'd be great to have to share my successful husband with three other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:21 PM
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" whereas a man trying to do something like teaching is going to experience massive pushback." This is bullshit, btw. There is no pushback for men to go into teaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:20 PM
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"Give it a good economic crash, I’m sure suddenly everyone will realize a male plumber is more valuable than a woman with a phd in sociology." Just have to keep shitting on women, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:20 PM
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That isn't what the data says. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america Admittedly, it's not always the most sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:17 PM
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"hink this way, if you date a 10 out of 10 good hearted man, he will never cheat, even if you throw maddison beer at him. But for Women its different. She maybe wont act on it but she will zone out from her relationship. As a Woman you can protect yourself off getting cheated on by chosing the right guy, my claim is as a Man u cant, because off hypergamy base." The evidence shows that women as they age are less likely to cheat and men are more likely to cheat. So a middle aged married woman face…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:16 PM
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Hypergamy is less and less
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:13 PM
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"Because loyalty is a good part of what gives human value. Unfortunately [men] are only loyal to themselves and would happily chuck their [wives, sisters, and daughters] into a wood chipper if that meant getting a [one night bang with a 22 year old chick.]"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:12 PM
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"The average women who wanted sexual freedom were hoping to get treated better by the high value men whom they were having no strings attached sex with." Please. It is drilled into women's heads that men will fuck anything (although that isn't necessarily true). God knows it was drilled into my head and I've already let my girls know the score. Kisses aren't promises. Sex means nothing to men. On and on. And girls that do casual and ONS know the score. It's the gals who don't.... What they expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:09 PM
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Fine, then don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:03 PM
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He actually ended up divorced a second time from Calvert. Woot woot, what a man. I bet he was sexy once his rotted out liver turned his eyes yellow
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:03 PM
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Nope. The fact that men all are so driven by their libido that they spread syphilis far and wide because they'll stick their dick into anything is exactly why men shouldn't be allowed to decide for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:55 PM
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LMAO. Stacies know that Chads cheat. Ever looked at how many times most actors have been married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:53 PM
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It amazes me how men will spout the most ridiculous crap without doing one ounce of research into... well anything. TLDR: the spread of syphilis in London to one in five people during times when monogamy was "societally enforced" is why OP's comment is bullshit. Monogamy was only ever enforced for women, not men. The sexual revolution happened because women got fucking done with it. Betty Draper got cheated on and divorced. https://www.repro.cam.ac.uk/news/one-five-georgian-londoners-had-syphili…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:51 PM
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I disagree. It's simple: if a man is going to judge me for my sexual past, we are a poor match, and that ends the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:14 AM
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Calling people sea creatures isn't caring for them, any more than screaming incel at a man helps him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:45 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:44 PM
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Do whatever you want. No one is making you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:43 PM
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yes, but they aren't that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:40 PM
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No it's not relevant because the question is about native born versus illegal populations, not your personal bigotry against black people. Both populations include black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:36 PM
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Please fully read my comment, "Are there studies on this?" So no, I'm not "doing the meme" - you simply have poor reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:34 PM
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"Lifting weights/being muscular, having beards, opening pickle jars, changing a tire, "chivalry" (aka benevolent sexism), more masculine personalities in general, and so on." This shit is hilarious. Well, I'll hold back and be fair. Are you talking about raging lefties or are you talking about your democratic voter? PS. I mean, I'm a left leaning democratic voter and woman. I have changed my own tires. My dad taught me - he is also a democratic left leaning voter with all the typical male indici…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:28 PM
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imagine being so enslaved to their genitalia. So weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:24 PM
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Do you tell him he's mentally ill and you want him to lose his rights and be forced back into women's clothes and women's bathrooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:24 PM
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Right? The irony is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:23 PM
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Its more that women like No_Teacher have created a lemming culture amongst women, so that even women who do not care about politics feel the need to virtue signal and show they are a part of the "in crowd" the "good people" and then try to "vet" politics. Women have a herd mentality. Yes, those women are all "lemmings," not the guy lying his ass off about himself to get in their pants. LOL. I guess I'm mentally ill since I too vetted for value and politics when dating.... it's only resulted in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:22 PM
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So, you don't understand the definition of "lie"? Telling someone it's none of their business is not a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:19 PM
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It's the conservatives that pushed the SAVE act which could disenfranchise women who change their name with marriage. I made sure to get my passport asap to avoid it. It is the conservatives that are pushing the end of no-fault divorce. It is the conservatives who are refusing to fund ACA. It is the conservatives who are cutting back on Tanf and WIC benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:17 PM
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Agreed, and amen. I "look" conservative, too. I draw conservative men like flies. It amazes me how many people down here have a view of "liberal men" that is such a stereotype. It's like they think we all dye our hair and brand ourselves with septum rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:13 PM
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"Just so we can pick up a few amoral female voters who vote purely on self-interest. That's not the type of person I want in my movement anyway." Try the majority of people are pro choice as votes in places like Florida, Kansas, Missouri, and Ohio have shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:09 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:08 PM
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Yup. Yup. Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:07 PM
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I said native born population, period. I'm not going to get into toxicity of the drug wars of the 1980s, disparate treatment, and poverty on crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:06 PM
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I had a redneck follow me in a truck and yell at me when I was 16. I guess that means all country boys are violent criminals and we ought to judge an entire population based on anecdotal data rather than systemic studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:05 PM
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Ah, so a woman lying over whether she's seeing something else is fine, right? Or having a kid. After all, that's all inconsequential, right? Because I say it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:03 PM
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Interesting you want to date "mentally ill" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:02 PM
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" But I'd argue that the average guy working a trade is probably better off financially nowadays than the average guy working white collar office jobs that are largely going extinct or being replaced by AI/immigrants." If men are IT programmers, they are going to have a lot of problems. Any other line of work that requires interpersonal skills and high level analysis, I don't think so. "isn't the only aspect of traditional masculinity that women seek and that conservative men embody more often t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:01 PM
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"girls can't do math!" /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:57 PM
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Do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:55 PM
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" But what woman don’t realize is that their access to sex and relationships goes down drastically as they age and their biological clock runs out." LOL. LMAO. Oh yes, we had no idea until you told us /s. Like we haven't heard men screaming how we hit the wall at 30 and no one will ever want us and we'll all be worthless cat ladies. FOR YEARS. "I think woman like to pretend their winning in life because they always have the choice to be alone. What they don’t consider is how they will lose acces…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:52 PM
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Imagine you think it is a flex that men don't care about their partner's values and views.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:47 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:46 PM
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I am left leaning. I also returned to the church (episcopal) to baptize my kids. I am also a soccer mom and soccer player. My more conservative husband is atheist. You all have a very narrow and stereotypical view of who is a leftist and who isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:46 PM
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Men "lying is good." Also men. "why don't you trust us? why won't you give us a chance?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:44 PM
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" traditional masculinity, which liberal men more often don't conform to. " Are there studies on this? Because my brother is a lefty and is masculine if you include construction work, IT, automotive work, motorcycles, and working hard. He is tall, in shape, and has always gotten interest from women. Many of the dem voters I know are in the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:43 PM
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This. I am in Georgia. There is a significant number of conservative men who do not support Trump and have consistently shown some spine, such as Raffensperger.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:40 PM
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In the United States, immigrants (illegal or not) commit less violent crime than the native born population. This has been studied. Edited - thanks all who pulled the studies. I should have just cited to be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:38 PM
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You might have heard of Elizabeth Bathory. You haven't heard of how much evil that single woman did to my country, though. Precisely because we didn't do to single women what should've been done. It took me a second - I had to double check if she was the noble women who bathed in blood. So, um, are you arguing that because you have one serial killer woman - who died in 1614 - all single women need to be punished? Please tell me you are trolling me. Because by that argument, all single men deserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:20 PM
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I mean for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:10 PM
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And all of that is immaterial to my point - none of them were actively harmful to society. Leave asexual people alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:08 PM
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Yes. There is a reason Aztecs treated women who died in childbirth as warriors.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:58 PM
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Not bad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:57 PM
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Such a give away isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:57 PM
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Stop dehumanizing people by calling them sea creatures etc. Jesus. They are people, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:57 PM
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It's so weird as a mother. My kids are in their teens and pretty close to fully launching. It's like subconsciously I think, oh I can die now. I mean, I don't want to die, but there is a bit of relief that they won't be in serious straights if i do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:55 PM
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First, sending loving kindness to you. That is an awful feeling and a very human feeling. Second, I'll give you some pragmatic advice which will sound so cliche. Find good work to address your attention to. If you are a man, mentor some boys through the local YMCA. Get involved in literacy programs and teach some adults to read. It's desperately needed. Two weeks ago, I played Elsa for a librarian friend and read to a bunch of kindergarteners and first graders. I lovvveedddd it. I rode that high…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:52 PM
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Ah, I dressed in baggy super large clothes and giant glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:40 PM
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Good on you, seriously. I get worried when I hear people claim they will take anyone. People can do so much damage to your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:35 PM
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the AI stuff - the AI characters - it's really bad. There already have been several cases/suits where teens are being pushed to suicide. And there are adults who are disappearing or having mental health deteriorations. It is scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:33 PM
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But aren't they dating to marry/settle down in late twenties?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:31 PM
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My daddy raised me with a gun in my hand. I didn't need testosterone injections to handle one. You cannot be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:30 PM
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Some antidepressants are non-narcotic ways to manage pain (tricyclic antidepressants) or to handle sleep dysregulation brought on by perimenopause.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:28 PM
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women are afforded many "charities" by society like "women are wonderful effect", low sentencing, being allowed to stay around kids (in education field). I've known men who were prek and k teachers. They are adored. Men have a significant presence at the high school level. People are desperate for good teachers. Men just don't want it. all these benefits will go away if you do not serve country by having kids with good intelligent STEM major men who follow societal rules. Ironically, as a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:24 PM
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"If you continue this BS of weakening your men, Russia will come and conquer US." LMAO. Russia is currently sending their men into the meatgrinder of war and has a birth rate lower than the US's.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:18 PM
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Outdated memes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:17 PM
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No, what we recognize is that those who are young often don't have the experience to recognize red flags or bad behavior. This applies to men and to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:16 PM
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Men do actually. Or that is my impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:15 PM
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I feel like 19-23 or 22-28 is an entirely normal age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:14 PM
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And when women get older they also follow social norms far less.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:12 PM
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I've heard the Knives Out is good. I'll need to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:10 PM
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And cars. And sneakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:08 PM
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Sure, but that is a human characteristic. Like men valuing each other over how many women they sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:08 PM
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:or that fascist and faggot have the same etymological roots" Really? Faggot is a stick. And Fascist refers to the fasces or bundles of rods carried by roman magistrates....OOOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:06 PM
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So, yes, men do exert heavy social pressure on boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:04 PM
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There are a lot of us out there, but we get punished societally by men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:47 PM
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Right there with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:46 PM
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While I acknowledge that women do engage in social ostracization more than men do, I have not found too much issue with providing an honest opinion if done with significant tact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:46 PM
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True enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:44 PM
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"It seems possible women's attraction standards are inflated past what biology dictates by modern culture and technology." I continue to wait for evidence of this. I also tend to give men the side-eye if they claim that their sexual desires are purely biological. Many men's standards are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:43 PM
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"Single men have been shamed, psycho-analyzed and subjected to fearmongering and slander as a matter of absolute routine...." And single women have been shamed, psycho-analyzed, and subjected to fearmongering and slander for far longer than your lifetime (or mine). Maybe both are bad. Proof: Single women were forced into mental institutions by their family. https://pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?params=/context/younghistorians/article/1272/&path\_info=Institutionalizing\_Feminini…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:40 PM
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Men are falling over Luigi. Men fall over all sorts of criminal women so long as she's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:36 PM
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"Since most women don't have a high enough sex drive and there is no stigma around being single, they don't feel pressured to find a partner." Dude. No stigma? Why do you think there are all these nasty terms for single older ladies like "crazy cat ladies," "spinster," and "old maid"? The term incel wasn't around when I was a kid, but "wallflower", "cat lady" and "old maid" sure was. I can't think of a male term. We had confirmed bachelors or peter pans, I guess. Peter Pans was insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:35 PM
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I love it when people invalidate the personal experiences of people they've never met.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:31 PM
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"Why weren't young women taking cues from the older generations 20 or 30 years ago when they had similar legal and social freedoms to now? Why so long to get to this point?" Because change in social standards take time. I was a teen in the 90s. There was still tremendous pressure to date in highschool and a woman who was never asked out by a man was a L.O.S.E.R. My parents were very worried that I wasn't dating in my teens. Nowadays? The pressure is way off. I don't hassle my girls about dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:30 PM
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The reason is brainrot. Tesla would be interested to know he was nothing but brain rot. Asexuality exists and always had. And they aren't hurting anyone, so why do you hate them so much? Why do you care about men and women who do their jobs, go hang with friends, and then go home to their apartments/houses?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:28 PM
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So Florence Nightingale, Tesla, and Newton were actively harmful to society?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:25 PM
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They really do not know what it's like to be a big woman. Big women are often actively reviled. I can post all the various studies that point this out, how terribly fat women are judged even in comparison to fat men, but they won't believe it because fat women can be used as "slam pigs."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:24 PM
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Eh, I was in the same boat until I got a bit older. I think there is a group of us who are ... well... invisible. We are the ultimate basic betties. We aren't so ugly that we draw notice, but we aren't so pretty that we draw notice. It's a weird place to be. I finally figured out how to glow up, but I can definitely do the middle aged white mom disappear into the background routine if I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:21 PM
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Flexibility is often heavily genetically meditated. I was in ballet and washed out because I have very low flexibility for a woman, which is dead from my dad. My husband is weirdly flexible and so are our kids. I've worked on my flexibility for years - sad face.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:19 PM
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God, and mine has gotten kicked into high gear recently. It is awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:18 PM
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I think monasteries and nunneries are attractive and great for both sexes. Maybe a non-religious version will come about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:17 PM
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I think this is it. I think there have always been people like this, but they aren't really overt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:15 PM
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I adore my husband. I am very very unlikely to remarry if something happened to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:15 PM
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I've always found it easier to build solid platonic relationships with other women as long term friends. YMMV
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:14 PM
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Maybe. Or they settle down in their late twenties as we saw with the millennial generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:13 PM
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My tio is a sixty year old 5/5 Cuban electrician who gets more women, including women thirty years younger than himself, regularly and is probably the most sexually successful man I personally know. * That means all short men are slaying and anymore who says different is lying? Right? Right? Women are not hive minds. They aren't. Most people - women included - want to experience a long term stable romantic relationship, even if it never gets to marriage. That said, there is a small subset of peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:12 PM
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Find me one woman who isn't aware skinny is king.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:20 AM
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yeah, and if every ex is crazy....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:19 AM
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High five to CBT and DBT. Practical, pragmatic, and effective. Really appeals to doers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:29 AM
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"he more honest you are the rougher it is at first, but the more value you get in the end" Tell your fiancé he is SO RIGHT
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:27 AM
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There is no magic pill that will get you laid beyond buying sex. And honestly, the entire fact that you aren't motivated to improve your life unless it involves getting laid is why you need therapy to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:26 AM
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And men are active detriments to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:24 AM
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Heheh, fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:22 AM
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Then, with all kindness, you aren't average. In the US, by 30-34, 46% of men are married, another 15% are cohabitating, and while the remaining is considered single, that also includes those dating. https://www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/family-profiles/brown-manning-relationship-status-trends-age-gender-fp-21-25.html I was a kissless virgin when my first husband met me after being over looked for several years. I was still responsible for my choices to continue with him, although he was a ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:20 AM
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Men too can divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:16 AM
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This, and also, that the onus is always on women to change. Men can never be expected to eschew casual sex, so women must in favor of some guy she might meet in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:15 AM
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According to you, men will just lie. We should accept that men will lie. And no man is ever going to shame a man for lying to get casual sex. So we obviously need to drop our standards so that more men get sex and companion ship. Because no man will ever demand that men change their behavior to help out men, but women should definitely change their behavior to ... help out men and be "egalitarian." Be the change you want to see. Eschew casual sex and convince your buddies to pass up on it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:14 AM
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“And too many men here think they qualify for relationships at all” I think this line of thinking is the crux of the problem. Woman think they’re superior to men in the dating market place and they’re simply not. So you get to decide a woman's dating value, but I don't get to decide the dating value of many men here in this subreddit? Pot-kettle. Men finding more woman attractive than woman finding men attractive is a direct result of woman overestimating their worth ... . You've just proven wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:10 AM
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You are, btw, dead on with the car analogy. A lot of what redpill pushes is good sense that our grannies told us long before redpill existed. For men, get buff, get picky, have standards, don't be a door mat, get a good career and you will attract better women. For women get skinner, learn girl game, etc. (I have a Toyota. Traded my lexus on it (which is basically an expensive Toyota))
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:04 AM
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Bahahah, be a fat woman or an old woman or a black woman (with all due respect to those who post here, I am referring to general western beauty standards) and get back to me about whether men consider all women Ferraris.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:00 AM
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Then men need to stop bragging that all they care about is whether a woman is hot and agreeable, as that is no foundation for a relationship. Maybe men should stop filtering out good relationship women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:58 AM
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" This is also evolutionarily true. Men's traits are shaped by what women choose." Except for years men were the choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:55 AM
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Or fat girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:55 AM
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I didn't generalize except to say: "Women are generally looking for committed long term relationships more and earlier than men. They are also less likely to engage in casual sex." Do you disagree? Do you think that men are generally looking for LTRs more than women and earlier than women? Do you think that men are less likely than women to engage in casual sex? If so, you are flying in the face of data. If you agree, why are you trying to score points on me with some "no u" argument. "Women ten…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:52 AM
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No. You have options. You may not like your options, but that doesn't mean you don't have options. If you choose to stay in a relationship with a bad woman or a woman you don't like because you want sex, that means you value sex over being a good relationship. That is your choice: own it. You have the option of being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:57 AM
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The OP is specifically denying any accountability for his actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:50 AM
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Many men today say that marriage isn't the primary goal either. This is a paradigm shift among both genders and in fact men have been pushing that paradigm shift long before women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:58 PM
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Yes "problems" lol. But you are saying it isn't a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:57 PM
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Did you forget your title?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:56 PM
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Meth is a very poor analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:55 PM
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Then please call out OP for saying the same about women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:54 PM
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And do you believe that women are always chasing chad for one night standards or casual sex? Because that is what OP is saying. Yet I don't see you calling him out for making such a ridiculous and obviously false generalization. Women are generally looking for committed long term relationships more and earlier than men. They are also less likely to engage in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:53 PM
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Seriously, all the upvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:51 PM
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I think it's Chad. Tell Chad to knock it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:51 PM
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"They simply desire men they do not qualify for a relationship with." And too many men here think they qualify for relationships at all. Look boyo, we mid girls watched in our teens and early twenties as all these guys ran after stacy the cheerleader or muffy the sorority chick. We watched them grade the hot girls on face book and list us as 60th. We watched as those guys whined that the hot girls went for the tight end or Jefferson the Third with the BMW. And if we went on dates with them, we w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:50 PM
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This is such learned helplessness on the part of some men to absolve themselves of agency or responsibility. Men choose. They choose who they approach. They choose who they date. They choose who they stay in a relationship with. Men are not inanimate objects laid out on a table in times square, just waiting for some gal to pick them up. I've watched men zero in on the hot chick and ignore her mid friend. I've watched men turn women down. I've watched men dump women. I've watched men divorce wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:35 PM
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I think the point is that the persons in the relationship should make the decision as to whether the relationship is equal and fair. So say a man lavishes money on his wife and buys her things but she doesn't do the same. But what if he really values how she holds his head in his lap and brushes his hair, or the little painted cards she gives him with hand written poems, or how she makes him laugh for hours?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:19 PM
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Sometimes yes, the younger partner has the power.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:16 PM
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"Women provide only when they're sure the guy won't stop later. A guy has to provide from day one and can't hold women to the same standard. 50/50 only beings when the woman feels ready, until then the guy generally keeps the relationship moving and alive." While dating, my husband didn't "provide" for me. I bought my own house from my employment. I bought my own car from my own employment. Sure, he'd take me to dinner. And I'd take him to dinner. "Men have to hit a mold to be a good man and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:20 AM
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Men providing wasn't an issue before women worked. A single factory job could provide for a family, it wouldn't be glamorous but it was doable. This is ahistorical. For a very brief period of time - when the US flourished after big chunks of the world had been laid to waste after ww2 - middle class americans could support a house, family, car on one salary. Prior to that time, women worked. Women working increased competition for jobs that women wanted so lower wages became acceptable. Most high…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:18 AM
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Do you have any cites for that? I bought my house by myself. As did my sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:14 AM
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I think it's a good thing and support it. I'd also note, though, that bones above was criticizing women over being childless. Should men be criticized for being childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:12 AM
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Maybe they don't want to have children. Plenty of men don't want to have children either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:11 AM
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"There's not a single role you can name that men can't do at equal or better efficiency if they actually need to." Female surgeons exceed male surgeons in good outcomes. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37647075/ In some other traditionally male areas, including brick layers, women outearn men. https://dc.medill.northwestern.edu/blog/2020/02/20/women-out-earn-men-in-male-dominated-fields/ And there is evidence that women are better coders than men - when you make it blind. https://www.technologyr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:09 AM
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90% of men are not unable to find a partner, though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:00 AM
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Plenty of us are fully capable of paying our own bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:59 AM
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You mean when men sell their daughters for cows, as still happens in some areas of Africa? https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147571 I'm sure those 13 year olds had full choice. What about all enslaved women on the southern plantations. They had choice right? https://fortworthbusiness.com/culture/a-kentucky-tour-brings-new-truth-to-the-henry-clay-story/#:\~:text=Nor%20does%20the%20tour%20shy,the%20exception%2C%E2%80%9D%20Smith%20said. And of course, Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings. In this…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:56 AM
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What else is there to judge on muchacho?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:47 AM
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Men in motion, man. That makes a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:45 AM
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I met my husband through match. He's 5/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:45 AM
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Chemical, let me spell it out. Women rate their experiences on apps more negatively than men do. You may personally disagree with those women's views, but that is irrelevant - what matters is how women perceive app experience. If they perceive it negatively, they get off. And thus we have the gender disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:44 AM
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I think there is some willful misunderstanding where people let their emotions dictate their interpretation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:38 AM
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I'd also say that you have a lot more men in the older age ranges like 40s and 50s trying o date 20 and 30 year olds too whereas 40 year old women usually look for men around the same age. There is simply far more competition for the 20 year olds and men themselves cause this when they insist that the only valuable women are younger than 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:36 AM
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This isn't the infamous 2019 study though. But if you understand that women generally marry men a few years older than them it makes sense. the single rate of men plunges from 63% to 25% when you cross the 30 year marker whereas for women it's 34 to 17. After that, more women than men are single. I met my husband at 29 and he was 34, so right cross that barrier. Couple that to men of all ages who compete for the 22-30 year women - you have 50 year old men trying to tag a 30 year old. While not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:33 AM
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Lord. Can we ever reach the point where we recognize that men and women are equally valuable and equally necessary to human flourishing? I get so f-king tired at the ahistorical manure pushed by men that they somehow built "civilization" because they continue to ignore and discount the technologies women have dominated and provided. They ignore the essential work women did in textiles and clothing development. Put men out naked and let us know how that goes. Every survivalist will tell you that …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:21 AM
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I agree about how it has entirely reversed. It is wild to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:30 AM
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I really don't want to go into the mechanics, but once you are in the act, dude, you are past the whole "getting away" easily no matter what position you are in. And to the second, it really depends on how you fit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:27 AM
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"i'd truely like to know what goes on in the mind of a woman that gets into a LRT with lots of sex at the start and then shuts it off without bailing out of the relationship." Well, I got pregnant and orgasms toward the end of my pregnancy caused me to have Braxton contractions. Then I had a baby hanging off of me and then a baby and a toddler. And at the end of the day, one more person wanting one more thing from my body made me want to scream. It's fine. My husband never pressured me, and I bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:25 AM
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Husband doesn't do what she wants, she makes him sleep on the coach. Example of a woman withholding intimacy to punish a guy for not doing what she wants. Do you want to sleep with someone you are angry with? I love sex but if I am mad at the guy, I'm not having sex with the guy. Sometimes it is punishment, sure, but more often it is "I'm not in the mood."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:19 AM
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I like James Sexton, but he takes a more nuanced view of the situation. He has some real criticism of men who don't allow their wives to recover child birth before pressuring for sex. As a HLF, sex is not an obligation of the marital contract. We don't own each other's bodies. Despite your sympathy for men, women also end up in deadbedroom situations either. Demanding it is a good way to turn the other person off permanently. That said, I 100% support any man or woman leaving a sexless marriage.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:15 AM
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"hat because the only unit of value women truly possess is access to their vagina." Maybe the women you date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:11 AM
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There are oodles of examples over at the Deadbedroom debate. It's considered shameful if a woman can't get her husband going, while it is normalized for a guy to complain about his wife not putting out. I do think it's more common for women to lose their drive over men, but I think there is still a sizeable portion where men also lose their drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:09 AM
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is this a serious question? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:07 AM
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We are attracted to physically healthy men in general. Who do you think represents the best to pair with and have kids with against a hostile world? The heavy vetting is to differentiate between the dangerous buff guys and the safe buff guys. I know plenty of great safe guys who are buff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:07 AM
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My husband is 5/7. I'm 5 feet flat. It's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:04 AM
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Me too. I think we are both lawyers, aren't we :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:23 PM
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When I was on OLD, I happened to do a lot of reading about the dangers - online friendships are often not "real" because we are able and do fill in all sorts of information. It was a real danger in OLD where people would fall in love with the person in the email and then there was nothing when they met. Online relationships often create an appearance of intimacy that is not real. https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/social-sciences-and-humanities/internet-dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:21 PM
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This is my best guestimate. First, there is substantially less interest and pressure on girls to make marriage and dating a priority. My mother raised me to get a husband as well as a career. In 3rd grade I had a "boyfriend," and girls were trying on new last names and baby names. Dances were dates. My parents were worried when I went to college as a kiss-less virgin. Now, while there are still boy crazy teen girls, those who aren't now focus on their interests without social pressure to date. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:11 PM
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Men who do report to law enforcement (which is predominantly male, no less) seem to by-and-large not be taken seriously.... while the reverse almost never happens (see the infamous "woman assaulting man in public" video). I agree that society dismisses the violence of women too much as a holdover from the time women were seen as essentially children. My brother experienced domestic abuse and it was hard to get through to him that it was unacceptable. I am glad I did and I could. This just takes …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:46 PM
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You were super cute!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:05 PM
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Nothing but butterflies
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:05 PM
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Bingo. Right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:05 PM
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I often revenge myself on innocent people because men make me mad on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:04 PM
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"You are actually making my case for me that force rules all. Gracias!" Except you didn't make that argument. Oops. Let me know what force is used when a grand jury refuses to indict. You really just can't stay on point can you. Let's see where you started. Oh yes, men still engage in protection services for their family. LOL. And failed at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:37 PM
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"s it that hard to understand that when you do go for almost any woman, you find that the great majority of women are mediocre at best?" Sure. Most people are mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:34 PM
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"And who is going to do so? You will convince a coallition of cucks and whiteknights to hurt themselves this much? Good luck. Friendly reminder that usually what's socially possible in a country is within what's acceptable for military-aged men. Check what even happened not so long ago in Afganistan." As always, back to threatening violence. What does that say about you? You don't think women deserve equality if that means they get to reject you. You want to live in Afghanistan? Go ahead. You li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:31 PM
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She didn't. So are you going to clal out the dude claiming that all women want 5,000 Birkin bags?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:29 PM
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Men get affirmative action to get into school. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/magazine/men-college-enrollment.html And roll back of DEI won't be helping. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2025/12/04/trump-dei-ban-college-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:25 PM
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"often, when given decision power, women make decisions on a whim, without thinking ahead or caring for the desires and inputs of others that may be affected by this decision." How can men say this with a straight face when men are the ones bankrupting themselves with gambling, men are the ones who have far higher insurance rates because they drive like maniacs, men are famous for engaging in stupid short term high risk taking behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:21 PM
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Women are also on the hook for a baby as an indentured servant for 18 years of their life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:13 PM
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Ask a woman the next time your around and one if she gets assaulted in front of her man if she wants him to protect her or not. I am a woman. Hi! I also step in to protect and have for my husband. I - and the other wife - did it without fists. We dis-escalated. Ask me what my husband would think of me if I ran off and left him or let our kid get beat. The truth is that we both have duties to protect our loved ones. Men always see fists (and I can throw one) as the only way to do so. And you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 07:21 PM
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I don't. That's why I am married to a man equal to me. We work collaboratively together - no one "leads" the other. We discuss and work things out. We have the two-yes one no veto. In some respects, he gives way to me. In some respects, I give way to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:45 PM
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I do. I'm a lawyer. Criminal justice isn't just the cops. And you are making an apples to oranges error. OP wasn't talking about society, he was talking about relationships. Men aren't doing the protecting inside the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:39 PM
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I saw this!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:36 PM
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It's just playing the odds and also depends on the definition of "promiscuous." When the pressure was extremely high on women to not have sex before marriage or a committed relationship, you could get a virgin who has a revving sex drive. Now, there is far less pressure. That means women who have a sex drive are likely to have had sex unless they are particularly religious. If they haven't had sex at all, there is a higher chance they have low libido. If she's revved to go, she's likely to stay …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:35 PM
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One additional "single fact." People do love their partners. I can't imagine hurting my husband by pressuring him into allowing me to fuck other men, even if I could. Men love their wives too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:27 PM
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I disagree entirely. Self improvement. I strongly agree with redpill's mantra of leveling up through getting in shape and getting a life. Where I disagree is with RP is their position that this is new knowledge they just discovered. From the time I was small, I was told to get skinny and get accomplished to attract a mate. And when I did get skinny and get accomplished (ie independent, no debt, no liabilities) I was able to attract far better men. My husband now got cut before he went out on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:25 PM
2

You all are so petty. You aren't even supposed to downvote but damn you do. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:52 PM
2

Downvoting me doesn't change the truth. Who here has a birkin, ladies?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:51 PM
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Stop pick submissive women. But those of us who are leaders, you call "masculine". Shrug.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:48 PM
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This is not what I think but this is what is already happening: voices to strip women from their citizens rights will get lounder and louder because "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" and "it is always bad, never enough" for big enough and loud enough minority of women. Men commit far more crime than women. Do you think men should be stripped of their rights pre-emptively since they've shown they are unable to exercise their rights responsibly? "I had exactly this mentality, it resulted…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:47 PM
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I support this in all seriousness. I believe we should have freedom in our personal lives. If you want to date a 50/50 woman, you absolutely make that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:43 PM
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Over the last 80 years, women's rights and privileges have increased significantly. Have they taken on take on the duties and obligations that men typically have -- and are they even truly able to do so? The sole difference is that women now have the same legal rights as men and the duty to pay taxes. Yes, women are capable of taking on the duties and obligations of men and are "truly" able to do so. And sometimes, they are better - such as female surgeons exceeding male surgeons in results. Lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:41 PM
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I can literally say the same about men, especially over men's claim that they provide "protection."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:13 PM
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Because he's lying. Look at his qualification: "We are very specific in that we are open to pursue any and all kind of women we find sexually attractive. It means almost any woman who isnt fat or old." In red-pill speak, he wants a very pretty girl who is in her mid twenties. He doesn't want a 32 year old mid teacher who has a bit of a belly. He doesn't want a pudgy 22 year old waitress with a large nose and small eyes. He doesn't want an apple bottom flat chested type. And he sure doesn't want …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:12 PM
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So, gold diggers and sugar babies. You want the prettiest of the prettiest hottest girls and are angry that those girls can, due to their unusual attractiveness, demand that. I myself and my husband are upper middle class. We are not rich, but we both have made consistently over six figures. We have never lived in a 2 million dollar house. The most expensive handbag I have ever had was 400. I don't have 1200 shoes, 5000 bags, and our most expensive redo that we paid for was around 10k to resurfa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:06 PM
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You realize that I never claimed all men turn into slobs that lay around the house, don't work, and expect his wife to do everything, right? I made the point that there is a subset that absolutely does change so it's shitty to blame the woman involved for not foreseeing it, which is what you are so very desperate to do. You know, just like I don't blame the man when his wife cheats after 20 years and takes him to the cleaners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:33 AM
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"My body my choice" applies to men as well, pro-lifer. Men are free to control their own sperm. And when they fail to do so, well hope they aren't in a prolife state.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:28 AM
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As I said, baby, let the birth rate zero the fuck out. We are already well on our way by eliminating teen pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:25 AM
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No, but clearly you have poor reasoning skills. I'll spell it out - you have dismissed without evidence that every woman who requires a higher standard of cleanliness than you or men as OCD. You need actual evidence to prove that the women's standards are actually OCD and unreasonable. Otherwise, it's just your opinion and worth about as much as anyone else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:21 AM
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This is a smart comment. My husband and I actually downsized from a much larger house five years ago and do not regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:30 AM
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". You may not realize this sense you're a woman," No, pookie, I look at DATA. Do you understand that your personal "feelings" or "opinions" aren't actual data? And data shows that there are MORE and MORE women who are the breadwinners or in egalitarian marriages. More and more women are marrying down. That is the DATA. That means that women are becoming less hypergamous, not more. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5421994/ https://ifstudies.org/blog/whither-hypergamy No doubt you will cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:28 AM
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Facts not in evidence that "most" women have neurotic OCD about the amount of work that needs to be done around the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:21 AM
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You should actually cite the IFS data where that comes from, rather than some toxic x blogger. You know, like I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:20 AM
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Thanks for pointing out why it's incredibly stupid for a woman to choose to be a SAHM and why she needs to get her own bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:19 AM
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"expecting men to all of a sudden override generations of socialization to accommodate women's newfound ambition is another." Then they are shitty husbands and don't need to be married or have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:18 AM
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Again, the data shows that SAHM hold up their end of the bargain, more than men. Go yell at the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:17 AM
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You may farm your kids out to strangers. I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:15 AM
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No, CHILDREN benefit, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:15 AM
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Let the birth rate drop to fucking zero. If supporting mothers with children is such a fucking burden, I hope we see South Korea level birth rates. Because at every step of the way you want to fuck over the ones who STAY and try to raise their kids - the mothers. If this is your answer and society's answer? FUCK society to the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:12 AM
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Yes, that would be men. It takes two to tango, muchacho.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:10 AM
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Your first sentence is WRONG. I'd cite something here, but you've already shown you ignore information and evidence. I'm getting ready to point that out on another thread, but really dude, like click a fucking link if it looks legit. But let me SPELL. IT. OUT. It is COMMON that abusers CHANGE their BEHAVIOR once the woman is pregnant or has a baby because that is when women are the MOST vulnerable. This is studied and documented. It is why homicide of women is HIGHEST when they are pregnant. She…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:07 AM
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Yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:59 PM
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Irrelevant. Your entire reddit post above is bitching about having to do any household chores or cook dinner since you "manly man."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:58 PM
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you should try reading. "In the flipside scenario, where a non-disabled respondent is out of the workforce and has a full-time-working spouse, dads work just 33 hours to moms’ 46. That’s a gap of about two hours a day! Yikes."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:30 PM
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"I would also suggest a SAHM perhaps consider taking an online course or certification once her kids aren't infants and demand all her time." You are so out of touch it's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:29 PM
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He regularly confuses love with lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:23 PM
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Yes, we really can.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:23 PM
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Yah you all would have to pay the maid. The wife doesn't even get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:16 PM
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Downvoting doesn't change the historical facts, snowflake.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:14 PM
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"Why do women immediately go to this weird power dynamic when it comes time for them to actually do something for a man? And not just any man, their husband?" And yet you did an entire post bitching about having to do something for your wife. Chop chop OT, get that hot meal on the kitchen table for her. After all, don't you love her?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:11 PM
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Most people assortive mate. The lawyer aint wifing up the fry girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:09 PM
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"That's why men consistently say we don't care about a woman's degrees, job title, or accolades." And then squall like a stuck pig over "divorce rape."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:09 PM
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Widows fucking rocked it. That was when they weren't under the thumb of a father, brother, or husband. And they rocked it hard in business too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:07 PM
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Just say you don't know shit about history. I know it's hard for you guys to understand, but history did not begin in 1950
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:07 PM
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I don't see men "constantly downplay and disparage any of the work that women put into turning a house into a home" because that would make the large assumption that there are a bunch of women who do that these days. LMAO. You see it all over your own comments. Women are neurotic. SAHM do "too much". Their standards are "too high." And of course as soon as there is a divorce, men say "it's all my money. She was just lazy at home." When it comes to putting dollars on the value of what she did, me…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:04 PM
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Agree with the first paragraph. Somewhat disagree with the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:50 PM
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"they're hyperfocused on a man's salary and career trajectory, expect a man to be the breadwinner and provider and leader" Women are less and less focused on this shit. That's why men bitch about Chad. And I don't need a leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:48 PM
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women live longer now. This is very easily shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:44 PM
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Nah, then comes kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:42 PM
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". I feel the sweat and blood of men goes unappreciated in modern society as it's the norm." Nurses would like a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:41 PM
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A slob is the person who gets the most money in a home? And cant expect to relax even in their own homes? There you go ladies - money is power. Make it yourself, so you can relax at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:40 PM
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You all should start cracking down on all those men in child support arreage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:39 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-myth-of-the-lazy-father Yeah, they are lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:34 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-myth-of-the-lazy-father SAHM's do hold up their end of the bargain. SAHF's don't. Men might want someone to do all the cooking and cleaning, but he doesn't want to pay for it. Find out what happens if she wants to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:32 PM
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"There's actually a fairly simple way around this. The woman should work to save up $20K-30K, " Hahah, that ain't shit in the US. Sure, it's escape money, but fuck that shit if she needs to get re-educated and back into a career. It ain't shit for retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:31 PM
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"But the cleaning police on the women’s side? Never ending 😂" this is why I say it's a fools errand to be a stay at home wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:29 PM
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Because men suck at it. Stay at home husbands are lazy compared to wives. https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-myth-of-the-lazy-father
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:27 PM
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So a man working for his family is noble and good, but if I do it, it's bad? I'll work for the the Man. I can walk in tomorrow, say I quit, and get a new job tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:26 PM
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I'm married to a man who easily could support a SAHM. He's a gem. Don't care. Want my own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:25 PM
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I often wonder if you guys are being disingenuous when you push this horse manure, if you honestly think women are stupid and might buy it, or if you are just so absolutely unworldly and naive that you believe what you say. Money is freedom. Money is power. Money means a roof over my head, food in my children's bellies, and some measure of safety. I'm curious. Who do you think who was paying my bills after 18? Who made sure I got medical care, food, and a roof over my head? My parents you say? S…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:23 PM
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You all think you can effect social change without any price. I was always willing to do 50/50 myself, but men didn't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:45 PM
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Yup. Changing social standards is often difficult and comes with a cost. Many women to this day are told that they'd never get a good man if they focus on a career. Many women faced serious harassment when they went to work. Have you seen the photos of black kids entering various schools at desegration? Effecting social change can be painful. Men will have to decide how important it is. Luckily, 50/50 is already a model in Europe, so the change shouldn't be so super painful. I was willing to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:43 PM
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He's insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:34 PM
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It's easy, when you're a woman, to trivialise the burden of having to constantly face rejection throughout your entire life, being the one expected to deal with that and convince others you're worthy of them. Most men are in relationships by 30. What do you mean "your entire life." But it's actually one of the hardest things imaginable, and many women would break down if they were expected to fulfill this role (which is why they don't do it, even though it's easier for them due to them being mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:30 PM
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I thought men didnt care what people say. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:25 PM
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No it doesn't. Men usually recover financially. Women do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:25 PM
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Where is she defending women who financially abuse men? Don't accept the marriage proposals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:21 PM
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"The reality is that women are hypergamous." Less and less. Feel free to choose differently. Marry a richer woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:20 PM
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Socially and legally women aren't held to account for breaking their commitment to a man, divorce doesn't carry the same stigma, let alone relationship breakups. Divorce and relationship break ups doesn't carry stigma for either gender. Its even become the norm for women to practice serial monogamy, the idea of jumping from partner to partner, while the idea of "settling down" is now quickly becoming a radical sentiment. What? Where are you? Men are the ones more likely to remarry after divorce …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:19 PM
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Let me know when men stop complaining about "divorce rape."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:11 PM
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Take that up with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:10 PM
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It isn't true at all. Women mainly spend on the household.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:09 PM
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I am just asking woman to stop requesting that we contribute more than half for a relationship. Men have agency. If you want a woman to pay 50/50, then date such a woman. If you want a woman who makes the same amount of money, marry one. You might face push back or have less options. So did women when they went to work. If you date up financially, that’s your prerogative but there are responsibilities that come with that.... Other people's relationships and responsibilities are for those people.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:06 PM
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When ever a man raises this argument, that man again proves that men are just as emotional, feeling driven, and utterly illogical as they claim women are. Argument: Men Still Do Most Traditional Protection Roles and Dirty Roles and Women Don't! First, women still do most traditional care roles in society - often at significantly lower pay than men. Women make up the majority of teachers (especially at the younger ages), day care workers, babysitters, nurses, med techs, medical assistants, and el…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:58 PM
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I meant more looking back on it, it is hilarious because it was so off the wall, not that it was funny at the time. In my life, there have been things that happened - like my wedding cake melting and almost falling over - that were not funny at the time, but looking back on them, I find it funny. Some random person saying that shit to me would be upsetting at the time, but later on - once they were long gone from my life - I'd be like "can you believe this shit, dude? What an idiot." But I am so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:20 PM
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"And watch how fast a woman ditches a man if he loses his job. We can do this all day." The point is that you were trying to claim that men are so much more noble and just love women for who they are. By saying "you too", you've simply confirmed my position. Men also value women based on what they do, not who they are. "But men are attracted to and get off to women - not how they make them feel or whatever, but women." This is funny. I'd like to introduce you to Chad. Many men here are very angr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:12 PM
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hella description man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:12 PM
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But dumb with words is only using anecdotal data as well. Meme fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:05 PM
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So would he have dated you if your were a repentant promiscuous woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:03 PM
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Because the studies show that promiscuity in men and women are correlated with higher divorces
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:02 PM
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Did a girl ask you that? That is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:00 PM
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Yup - 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:59 PM
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Uh huh, watch how fast a man ditches a woman when she gets sick or stops having sex with him, then get back to me about how men just love women for "whom they are."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:58 PM
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Because being virginal doesn't. I was a virgin when I met my first husband. He was the first and only person I'd been with. I didn't have men pounding at my door to date me simply because I was a virgin. In fact, I saw men far more interested in women who got around a bit. This is the truth - men, even those with marriage as an ultimate goal - first ask a woman out based on looks and personality. They don't worry about "marriage" or ltrs because they haven't even reached that question. An attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:54 PM
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That's why many men abandon women when the woman needs nurturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:32 PM
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I pointed out the stupidity of equating virginity with purity
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:31 PM
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I've never hidden I was married before my current husband. And being a virgin didn't make him value me or treat me well whatso ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:30 PM
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I had this experience with Pedro Pascal. Some roles he really rocks me. Some, didn't even notice him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:12 PM
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And I'm telling you that if these stories long predate the last generation, it has nothing to do with "squashing traits out of men".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:11 PM
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"The more pure a woman, the more loving/nurturing." As a woman who was a virgin for her first husband, insert the "let us laugh" meme here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:05 PM
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It is hypocritical if your effort to date a virgin means you are trying to pop their cherry before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:03 PM
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low inhibition. Throw in criminality there. This post really should be on the Lilith post about women attracted to criminals. It's all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:54 PM
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It 100% matters to you and your husband. I didn't care that my husband wasn't a virgin. He didn't care that I wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:53 PM
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And what baffles the hell out of me that there are men in their fifties - ie. you - who apparently have never learned that there are some deeply damaged women out there who won't make good partners to healthy men. They waste hours of their time on clearly broken women, examine their social media memes, tear themselves up over the crash-high of "will she won't she", and then wonder why their lives are left in misery when the relationship finally self destructs. It's mind boggling. Don't men ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:45 PM
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Do you know the mythology behind the minotaur? Do you know the actual fairytale behind Beauty and the Beast, which is dark - a la necrophilia? All these long long predate your modern examples, which means your hypothesis collapses under the least bit of scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:30 PM
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"Women are not attracted to bad behavior. However, they will sleep with an attractive degenerate over the normal decent guy they encounter every day" Some will. Some.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:26 PM
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I am married and have been for 18 years. I have two kids. You can stop bullshitting me. I am in a professional career as is my husband - the law and IT. Over the last 18 years, I know exactly what the consequences have been to me for taking a reduced work load to handle more of the house hold versus my husband. Every hour I don't spend on my career is one less hour that goes into my retirement and less advancement to my career. Every dollar I make comes to me first. It flows into my retirement a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:29 AM
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