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Hey, I know this was literally three years ago, but I wanted to let you know that you made good points and I just didn't see it at the time. I was way too far down the rabbit hole to be reasoned with. I know the Bible has been heavily edited and isn't a reliable source. I still believe in God, but I'm definitely not religious anymore. Deconstruction is a process and it's a lot of work to sort through the indoctrination that comes from being raised religious and conservative. I've learned a lot s…
/r/MensRights04/06/25 10:34 PM
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The way a woman dresses statically doesn't play a role in rather or not she gets raped. It's typically someone they know or simply being at the wrong place at the wrong time. This is victim blaming. If this post was about the importance of avoiding dangerous situations or the importance of teaching self defense, that would be one thing, but you're literally just blaming victims and repeating harmful misconceptions. It tells people that simply dressing differently will protect them from clearly m…
/r/AntiFeminists02/01/23 05:35 AM
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I never said women have never gotten caught up in wars. I said that feminists didn't fight to be included in the draft when they were fighting for the right to vote. I used it as an example of how they wanted equal rights, but not equal responsibilities. I know there are women who get caught up in wars and I know there are women who voluntarily sign up for military service. I'm not denying that. I'm also not saying that women never fight or struggle or that war is the only hardship that matters.…
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 11:17 PM
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I think I understand your point better now and I'm in a similar situation with my political party preferences. I'm a libertarian since I like people being legally allowed to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, but personally, I'm a very conservative/traditional sort of person. I think, in situations like what we're dealing with it's just easier to avoid labels, but that's just how I handle it. I hope you find what works for you.
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 06:03 AM
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I think when faced with two extremely opposing ideas, the truth is often found somewhere in the middle. It's healthy to assess your views and try to come at life from a neutral place. Having said that, some things are objectively harmful or helpful upon examination. I'd say feminism falls into the harmful category. It's never really been about equality. If it was, feminists would have tried to get women into the draft when they were fighting for the right to vote. It was about equal rights for w…
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 03:07 AM
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Patriarchy literally by definition just means a country who's leader is male. Patriarchy as feminists have come to use it means a mythical force of oppressive males, but what is the evidence of this male domination? More workplace deaths are men, more suicides are men, more random acts of violence victims are men, women are typically favored in divorce court, men are more often victims of false rape accusations, when men are victims of rape or sexual assault they are less likely to be believed, …
/r/AntiFeminists05/12/22 04:44 PM
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There will always be men who advocate for women, simply having men in your movement does not mean the movement is for them. Men can support ovarian cancer research without having ovaries. I think a lot of people just hear the positive publicity feminism gets and don't fully understand what's lurking under the surface. People hear "equal rights" and think they should be a part of the fight, but don't understand the inequality in the movement or all the hate and fear mongering towards men that is …
/r/AntiFeminists04/12/22 10:36 PM
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I really appreciate your civil approach to a heated topic, but I have to respectfully disagree. Feminism was founded to give women rights that were previously only given to men, such as voting; therefore making it a movement for women's rights and their equality in society, not the equality of all in society. If feminism was for everyone regardless of their gender, the movement would have been given a gender neutral name such as egalitarianism or human rights. Given that feminism only fought for…
/r/AntiFeminists04/12/22 10:20 PM
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The only people who bring up what a rape victim was wearing are victim blamers, who are often women. Victim blaming isn't a problem perpetuated strictly by only men or women. Anyone can be a jerk regardless of gender. As for clothing causing rape, that's primarily a myth started by victim blamers. Most instances of rape are either she was there at the wrong place at the wrong time and stumbled across a rapist at no fault of her own or it was someone she knew who wanted to hurt her. Rape is not a…
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 10:32 PM
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I think the problem with feminism, at least in a lot of places, is that it's outgrown itself. I'm in America, so I'll speak from my own experience to keep things simple. There was a time here when women didn't have equal rights from a legal standpoint. Great example of this is voting, women couldn't vote. Then a bunch of men and women changed that. Now, legally, men and women have equal rights. If a woman is experiencing unequal pay or is refused a job or is turned away from going out to vote be…
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 10:04 PM
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Ok, so I'm no feminism expert, but I have a guess as to why this is supposedly so wrong. I could be wrong, but I thought I'd try. I think it's just that feminists think men shouldn't have fetishes or sexual preferences. Like they're disgusted by male sexuality or something. Super toxic. I'm a woman with a mental handicap, high functioning, but I still have to work around it, and I see nothing wrong with men who might find that attractive for whatever reason. To me, this isn't really any differen…
/r/AntiFeminists28/08/22 02:33 AM
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I'm strictly talking about relationships and personal choice, not other people's reactions to that choice. Plenty of men choose other relationship dynamics. I know a woman who is the breadwinner of her house and in my area, no one cares that her husband doesn't work and rarely helps around the house. It's no longer uncommon for both people work and help around the house, either. Stay at home dads are becoming a thing, as well. Things are gradually changing. Like I said, we should be talking abou…
/r/MensRights07/07/21 03:14 AM
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Please don't put words in my mouth. My post was about personal choice, not the social approval or disapproval of that choice. It's certainly a discussion to be had, but not the discussion my post was about. In the time before the internet, however you were raised was more or less what you were stuck with, but now places like reddit, for example, allow people to share ideas and lifestyles. More and more men are learning about alternative lifestyle choices and exploring them. Just look at David Bo…
/r/MensRights06/07/21 04:15 AM
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My post was not about what society will approve of. My post was not about what society will enforce. My post was and is about what people could choose to do in their relationships and within their own homes. My post was not about how people should live their lives. This has nothing to do with society, it's about individual couples and what they want regardless of society. It's freedom of choice. MRAs aren't lying to themselves. They are working hard to be the change they want to see in the world…
/r/MensRights06/07/21 01:27 AM
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Yes, modern society is hostile towards that set up, that's why I came here to say that it's still ok as long as both parties are consenting to it. I'm here to say that a man can be the man of the house without it being an attack on his wife. Most men who do choose to follow traditional gender roles enjoy being the man of the house because they enjoy taking on a leadership role. Feminism used to be a wild pipe dream of a small group that the vast majority didn't agree with. Every single movement …
/r/MensRights04/07/21 08:27 PM
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Traditional gender roles are only sexist if it's not a choice. I'm not advocating for forcing anyone into a lifestyle that they won't be happy with. My husband and I found what works for us and I wanted to share my thoughts on an underrepresented and misunderstood potential life path. It's only one of countless other options and I just want people to find what feels right to them. If traditional doesn't work for you, I'm so happy you know what you want and can find your happiness accordingly. It…
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:11 PM
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Traditional gender roles are only sexist if it's not a choice. I'm not advocating for forcing anyone into a lifestyle that they won't be happy with. My husband and I found what works for us and I wanted to share my thoughts on an underrepresented and misunderstood potential life path. It's only one of countless other options and I just want people to find what feels right to them. If traditional doesn't work for you, I'm so happy you know what you want and can find your happiness accordingly. It…
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:11 PM
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"Couples should decide on what works best for their situation", yes, that's my entire point. For me and my husband, a more traditional relationship structure works. That does not mean that it works for everyone, which I've previously stated. This entire post is about choice and me presenting a single option out of seemingly countless other options. It's not my job, nor my intention to tell people how to live. No, I don't think simply being born male gives someone the right to tell someone how to…
/r/MensRights04/07/21 09:25 AM
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I never said I expect you to follow traditional gender roles. I said for those who are interested, it has the potential to be a great relationship dynamic option. You don't have to choose it for your life path and I won't think less of you for not finding happiness and security in the same things that I do. I understand that every individual and couple is different and what works/feels right for one couple might not work for another couple. This was in no way an attack on people who don't have a…
/r/MensRights04/07/21 08:00 AM
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It's only oppressive if it's not a choice. I never said it should be a default or a lifestyle that's pushed on people. As for "enforcing" traditional values for women, I'd say that falls on their traditional partners. Traditional gender roles mean the man wears the pants, after all. While I did marry young, that was just because I met the right guy young. Most of your definition of traditional relationships seems to revolve around the age of marriage and the lack of termination thereof, but as I…
/r/MensRights04/07/21 06:45 AM
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I'm not saying it's perfect because nothing is. I'm saying my husband and I enjoy it and make it work; it's up to the couples to make it work, as with any relationship dynamic. Of course the guys love, care, and respect the women. I never said that they didn't. That's just what I chose to list and a lot of women don't come across very respectfully towards men. As for valentine's day, I can't speak for all women, but I like to try to get my husband something nice. For me, flowers are more of a ra…
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:44 AM
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And like I said, she does not deserve a pass and she did not approach you with love or empathy. I just think a lot of people don't properly understand the difference between love and lust and how to best act on them. I probably should have phrased what I said a bit better; I think a lot of girls think an unprompted kiss is an acceptable way to express infatuation/attraction, rather than attempting an honest conversation. If it was love, there would have been respect and empathy. What she did sho…
/r/MensRights25/06/21 08:56 PM
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Hey, I'm really sorry that happened to you. For some reason, girls get the idea, likely through romantic shows and movies, that it's romantic to be bold and just go for it. I guess the assumption is that the guy will feel the same way the girl does and that'll be a cute way to start the love story. I think this epidemic stems from lack of education on the matter and a lack of trying actively to empathize with others. People, gender aside, are not taught enough about how healthy relationships wor…
/r/MensRights25/06/21 06:44 PM
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Well, yes, I do believe God dictated the Bible to his chosen authors. In Isaiah 40:22 it references "the circle of the earth", meaning that the earth was known to be round. Additionally, it says the universe "stretches out the heavens like a curtain and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in", which illudes to an expanding universe. In Job 26:7, it states that "God hangs the earth on nothing", showing an understanding that earth floats out in space. So far as I know, the Bible doesn't list the…
/r/MensRights19/06/21 06:35 AM
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Would you like to specify what isn't making sense so I can do my best to clarify?
/r/MensRights19/06/21 06:05 AM
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They did understand the universe because God was telling them about it. Analyzing the Hebrew words in some key phrases, a more clear translation does not support the "firmament" as a flat earth view. A more accurate translation for "firmament" would be more like what we call outer space. The Bible is consistent. There are old laws found in the Old Testament which God clearly stated changing in the New Testament, but a change to best suit the needs of the people isn't a contradiction. I hope that…
/r/MensRights19/06/21 05:56 AM
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It was dictated to the several authors throughout the Bible by God through the Holy Spirit, so we could have a record of our early history. Edit: Sun and moon were day four, my bad, but there were still no people to be negatively impacted by this.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 05:20 AM
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That was a lot of points, but I'll do my best to address all of them. Yes, it is the history of the Jewish people. Yes, it explains how God created the world. Yes, it does document Jesus's miracles and time on Earth. In Genesis on the first day of creation, light was created as well as the concept of day and night to establish what a day would be. It was laying the foundation for days, weeks, ECT. Yes, day three was the sun, moon, and stars, but since no people or animals had been created, yet, …
/r/MensRights19/06/21 04:52 AM
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But being so reactive just makes you look bitter and angry towards someone who isn't hurting anybody. The phrasing being used, like "untrue ancient myths" and "ridiculous" in your case, just wasn't necessary. Like I said, the post was removed before I could see it, so I'm missing some context, but it just doesn't seem like whatever was said warrants such a negative reaction instead of just saying "ok, I don't agree with that" and moving on. Why so disdainful?
/r/MensRights19/06/21 03:23 AM
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You're welcome, man. Hang in there and I hope you have a good week, too.
/r/MensRights18/06/21 03:56 PM
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Woman here! Hey, guys! The movement is gaining more ground than you might think. If we stick together, stay positive, and return hatred with empathy and compassion, we will really be able to make a difference. I love you guys! Hang in there!
/r/MensRights18/06/21 05:55 AM
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I'm a woman who prefers to be shaved, but I tend to be a little lazy about maintaining it. The armpits are totally a hygiene thing. Legs just feel nice on a personal note. Pubes can be uncomfortable during sex if they're long enough and during periods can become adhered to sanitary napkins...which hurts to pull off. A lack of hair doesn't make me feel like a child, so it certainly shouldn't make my husband feel like a pedophile. Men and women should be able to have their preferences without unin…
/r/MensRights18/06/21 05:18 AM
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I didn't get to see the post before it was removed, so if I've misunderstood, let me know. I don't get why everyone is so mad that he brought religion into his post. When someone shares their religious beliefs with others, it comes from a place of love. If you don't agree with him, you can simply keep scrolling without returning his love with hate. I know life has gotten stressful and difficult, especially for men, but I've noticed a lot of anger and aggression recently not just towards sexists,…
/r/MensRights17/06/21 07:45 PM
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This is really a no one wins situation. Men are being attacked and accused of unspeakable things and women are being taught to be perpetually terrified and bitter. Men are victims of a world that is increasingly disinterested in their very real and ever growing issues. Women are creating dystopian nightmares within their minds; perception shapes people's realities. The world that is being made is a path to distruction and I honestly feel bad for everyone involved. Given that most men have histor…
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/21 07:23 AM
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Gender doesn't matter as long as it's a good person getting voted in. You're not electing a gender, you're choosing someone who will represent the interests of the people. More women are running and more women are getting elected. Our vice president is a woman and so is the governor of Michigan, for two examples. A man can convey the wants of a group of women, even if he's not a woman. It was a group of men that voted to allow women to vote. A group of outspoken women expressed their wants and n…
/r/MensRights03/05/21 08:27 PM
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Well, according to you, for example. Men come here to talk about their issues, such as lack of resources for domestic violence victims or the appalling widespread acceptance of male genital mutilation and you're here to go out of your way to ask "the obligatory oppressing questions" as if that'll help men or women. If the pay gap was real, why wouldn't employers hire exclusively women? If they could get the same work done for less why don't they? It's literally illegal. Men are, however, more li…
/r/MensRights03/05/21 07:07 PM
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We know men are oppressed because they aren't allowed to talk about it. At least here, they have a voice. People who face real hardships, gender or otherwise, typically don't wish that on others. Just because you've dealt with some difficult people, doesn't mean you need to be angry with men who haven't done anything wrong.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 06:17 PM
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Even if she was infertile, you should always use a condom before you sleep with someone. You never know who's gonna have an STD.
/r/MensRights04/03/21 05:51 AM
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Just because I like cake doesn't mean I hate tacos. I can like both without having to constantly bring up both.
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/20 02:00 AM
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Did I say moms are useless?
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/20 01:48 AM
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I mean, fathers only contribute their sperm, time, energy, finances, wisdom, patience, love, protection, and dedication. That's not really all that important if you really think about it (sarcasm)
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/20 07:16 AM
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She’s acting like he’s threatening to kill himself and his ex if she doesn’t take him back
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/20 04:32 AM
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Especially the last two, but yeah...it’s all messed up...kinda wish I could unsee that...
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/20 04:25 AM
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I love how the phrase “women and children” just ignores that like half of children become men
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/20 01:39 AM
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For anyone who’s interested, I’ve been permanently banned from r/Rollerskating. My comment did not violate any of their written rules so far as I could tell. I’m not surprised, just thought I’d share.
/r/AntiFeminists22/10/20 04:11 PM
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I agree and I’m not saying that I think everyone should be going around breeding like rabbits. I fully believe in people using different kinds of birth control, if they cannot keep it in their pants. I’m just bothered that on top of people being careless about getting pregnant, they then choose not to care about the life that was created and choose to abort it instead of giving the child a chance at life. I hope this clarifies what I meant, I can see how what I had said could have been misinterp…
/r/AntiFeminists22/10/20 03:28 PM
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Why does everyone have such an obsession with abortion?! Just put the unwanted child up for adoption! There are people who want to love, protect, teach, and care for these children!
/r/AntiFeminists22/10/20 01:08 PM
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I think it’s more of an issue of the legal system and society wanting to defend women even if they’re the aggressor. As far as I can tell, there’s a lot of men who want to defend themselves and hit back in fights. My question is, why do so many people rush to defend women who start fights and assault men?
/r/AntiFeminists21/10/20 06:17 AM
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I’ve thoroughly noticed
/r/MensRights18/10/20 04:30 PM
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I know that they lack forethought and empathy, but it’s a realization humanity would benefit from them having.
/r/MensRights18/10/20 03:18 PM
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I wish all these idiots who think it’s ok to falsely accuse people of rape would realize that they’re gradually creating a world where no one will be believed and it’ll be nearly impossible for actual victims to get the help they need. It might not happen in their lifetime, but eventually, they’re going to ruin this for everyone.
/r/MensRights18/10/20 01:43 PM
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But you should just instantly know what she wants! You’re telling me you’re not a mind reader?! Any good man would be a mind reader! You should just know what she wants from 7/11 and you should just know what she’d like in bed! Real men read minds! (Hope the sarcasm is conveyed)
/r/AntiFeminists18/10/20 10:55 AM
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Why kill it when she can put it up for adoption? She doesn’t have to raise it either way.
/r/MensRights13/10/20 06:48 AM
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I would like to take a moment to remind everyone that even with women protesting and explaining why they should vote, at the end of the day, it was a group of men that got together and decided to let them. They can argue that men oppressed them all they want, but it needs to be acknowledged that it was men that came together to make the changes
/r/AntiFeminists08/10/20 03:58 AM
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I think she’ll raise a perfectly good serial killer. Give her some credit. She seems entirely capable of doing lasting mental trauma and we need to support and recognize that. (My stomach did weird things just typing that)
/r/MensRights07/10/20 01:48 AM
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So true. They don’t realize that revenge isn’t equality. They don’t understand that taking rights away from others won’t empower themselves, that taking rights away from others isn’t required for empowering themselves.
/r/AntiFeminists25/09/20 03:19 PM
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I’d like to add that as long as you’re healthy, someone somewhere will find you attractive. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just because some people like roses more than daisies doesn’t mean that daisies aren’t absolutely beautiful too and a rose would suck at being a daisy. Just be the best version of yourself you can be and the people who actually care about you will love you for it.
/r/MensRights23/09/20 12:24 AM
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