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Falling for a lie =/= consent
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:20 PM
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If you're not checking and going along with it for years on end then it's on you. Nice victim blaming You don't get much of a chance to check if a condom was slipped off and the effect you'd want to avoid is immediate. You can easily insist on a position where you're facing each other and pay attention. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:11 PM
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It's not like there aren't ways to check if it's important to you. When is "well you could have figured out they were lying" ever a defense for other forms of fraud? You already consented, deciding the information wasn't important. By this logic if a man lies about using a condom, his partner still "consented" because she can easily check. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:29 PM
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Keeping vital information that would hugely influence someone's decision making That's an understatement, this is straight-up lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:11 AM
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The adult had a choice. That's the thing about being an adult and having freedoms, you get to make choices but must accept the consequences. The consequences being in this case that you've become this child's parent Because they were defrauded into doing so? That's not a free choice. They consented under the false impression they were the biological father. Why do feminists love to extoll the virtues of informed consent when it comes to sex but suddenly forget it exists when it comes to men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:07 AM
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they have essentially adopted the child Involuntarily. It wouldn't be in the child's best interest for a start. What about the adult's interests? How is it substantially different from forcing a random individual to pay child person?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:27 AM
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If you are intent on leeching off someone then you probably don't like them all that much. Also this is c0pium, women complain about men's standards and preferences all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:04 AM
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For men, they lack options. Hence they’re in a desert for women. They have many options, but not all of them well-intentioned or even decent hence the swamp. The former is objectively true, the latter is a value judgement (what "options" are good enough). They shouldn't be put on the same level. And it's not like men's options are great either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:25 PM
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The adage is not saying anything about the quality of the water. It's merely pointing out that women get too much attention while men have not enough. It's a relatable truism. I don't think this implication, there are better examples of abundant freshwater, like a lake, or a river. The implication of "swamp" specifically is that the water is stagnant, filled with parasites, unsafe to drink, etc. However, we men will never experience a world where creeps nearly double our size The median American…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:23 PM
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As a general rule, in developed countries there is no shortage of couples wanting to adopt due to the prevalence fertility problems. The issue is if parents disagree, if parent A wants to raise it and parent B wants to put it up for adoption, I think most of us agree parent A is entitled to keep the child. But then should parent B be held liable to pay child support to raise the child that they want nothing to do with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:35 AM
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I don't believe that. Abortion advocates have explicitly chosen to frame this as an issue of "reproductive rights", i.e. deciding if/when to have children. Not just bodily autonomy, because there are tons of ways the state restricts bodily autonomy. And because they are aware that artificial gestation may one day undermine that argument. Let me ask you this, if one day an embryo or fetus could be extracted easily from the uterus and artificially gestated, would you be okay with women being held …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:06 AM
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Valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:54 PM
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the manosphere invented pseudonyms guys!!!! Can we be fr......
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:15 PM
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the voicecel website consistently rates my as "chad" yet i still don't like my own voice. tbh sometimes i talk really fast, especially when gaming, and that naturally raises my pitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:14 PM
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I pay when I invite friends. This is not the norm where I live unless it's made explicit or someone is celebrating something. Friends generally pay for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:10 PM
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In exchange for it, eastern men are a lot more authoritative in their relationships. In the past maybe, now I'm not so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:05 PM
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That's not widely accepted for coworkers or friends, why should it be different for dating? Seems like just a roundabout way to impose the burden on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:04 PM
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Further east, and I was talking about eating out with friends. And yes, I am familiar with how parasitic women in those cultures are, they make western women look like Mother Teresa by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:15 PM
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“Oh no, 75 percent of men are getting help! More women are so this clearly is a crisis!” Ok bro Don't put words in my mouth, you were the one that brought up the percentages not me. My issue is with the proliferation of female only scholarships. Because last I checked not a single be of them has set up a scholarship fund for men to actually make a difference. Scholarships cost money, and institutions consistently choosing to allocate that money to women instead of men is discriminatory. Not hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:14 PM
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Eastern
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:12 PM
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While there is no gendered breakdown 84 percent of women and 77 percent of men get scholarships. So we are talking about a 17 percent difference EVEN tho over 3/4 of men are getting scholarships. So what? They're still discriminatory. While there is no gendered breakdown 84 percent of women and 77 percent of men get scholarships. So we are talking about a 17 percent difference EVEN tho over 3/4 of men are getting scholarships. I graduated magna cum laude from a decent college and this very much …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:03 PM
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To me, making a serious offer to pay for yourself is the bare minimum to be polite. In the culture I grew up in, it is customary to haggle over the bill for a bit when eating out with friends, i.e. not accept immediately when someone else offers to pay. But that presents it's own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:58 PM
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The inverse was all of human recorded history minus the last 100 years. So what? We live in the present. The chest pieces are too distracted by "division" to realize that without them there is no game. Way to go ignoring the concrete examples of institutional discrimination. Do you oppose policies that favor women over men in hiring and promotion? Yes or no? Do you support more gender-neutral characterizations of sexual violence that recognize male victimization and female perpetration? Yes or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:49 PM
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Which scholarships? How many of them compared to women-only scholarships?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:47 PM
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Why is that I wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:45 PM
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A free meal is always nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:44 PM
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I don't expect women to advocate for men's rights and interests, but I do expect them to not actively support and uphold institutional discrimination that favors them, like affirmative action in employment and education, women-only scholarships, gendered treatment of sexual violence/IPV, etc. Any woman that claims to be for "equality", while fighting to maintain their privileges, is full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:37 PM
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Your experience isn't universal. You've been criticized for preferring fit women. I never have. Have you ever verbally expressed that preference though? Not on this subreddit, IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:10 PM
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You can't read minds, so don't presume to tell others why they're frustrated....... Instead of banding together with the other individuals in the exact same struggle and position as you they prop you against each other If I polled women on female-only scholarships, or affirmative action hiring for women, how many do you think would support these policies? How many women would support more gender-neutral treatment of sexual violence and IPV that recognizes female perpetrators and male victims? In…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:52 PM
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do you mean non-combative? easy going? patient? calm? Those are the words I'd choose, yeah. I'm not interested in bossing someone around like a servant, but at the same time there's no I'd want to deal with a woman that's domineering, demanding, bitchy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:56 AM
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A small increase from 1.0 or something is still well below replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:10 PM
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and if there's no children involved, that's just called being a sugar daddy That's only applicable if the relationship is explicitly transactional, with a large age gap being an implication as well. Plenty of women live rent free with their boyfriends. which is when two people living together costs less than two people living separately. Have you never heard of roommates? Or living with your parents? The wage increase makes up for spending because married men have higher wages (10–25%) What are …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:09 PM
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And women spend time and money, including an incredible amount of unpaid labor, "sacrificing" for their partner, too. The "unpaid labor" isn't really significant until they have a child. But to claim that men sacrifice more because they pay for a few dates It's not just a "few dates", it's paying for most things, often even most/all of the living expenses if they cohabitate. Life is literally more expensive for men when they're single. Single men earned a median of $21,400 less than their partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:27 PM
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I'm not talking about Korea, I'm talking about western countries. And Korea's birth rate is in the shitter because of the work culture and expectations of high parental investment per child. China and Japan don't have prominent 4B movements and they have similar low birth rates for the same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:16 PM
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They obviously exist, but they're fringe just like MGTOW, incels, etc. Also, FDS is more about encouraging women to leech off chad (or try to, at least) than it is about WGTOW lmao. Hence, "FemaleDatingStrategy"......
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:04 PM
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How many young adult women are habitually single and celibate? I doubt it's more than 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:56 AM
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That's fair, I hope you maintain the same attitude the next time you hear a woman bitch about "men being trash" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:56 AM
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I never said that women don't also provide financially, but men provide more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:54 AM
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Men who pursue shitty women and then get mad at the women they pursue for being shitty for being pursued are creating their own problem. That’s why they’re accused of calling themselves victims. Ok, but would you also victim-blame them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:40 AM
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If men raised their standards and stopped trying to date shitty women Same applies in the inverse, but I'd bet money that you wouldn't be this dismissive if it was women complaining about men's dating behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:34 AM
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Do you understand what a primary earner is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:12 AM
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Anniversaries I'd agree with him. Birthdays would be the most likely occasion for women to gift their partners something since the day is explicitly about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:31 AM
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Men who stay in shape and don't bald peak in middle age, since men are not penalized as much for facial/skin aging. Celebrities are much more inclined to do this than the median man, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:09 AM
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Women also don’t consider acts of love and care as “sacrifices,” as apparently you do. If you need to expend time or money then you are sacrificing those things, by definition. Not only do they often sacrifice their bodies to bear children, but they also sacrifice their economic mobility much more than men on average. And men sacrifice their time to provide for their families. Also, what about for all the men you won't have children with? Men who don’t have a partner still have to work to surviv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:07 AM
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You're a very lucky man then, most men aren't so fortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:03 AM
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No one is holding a gun to women's heads to force them to cook and clean either, that doesn't stop y'all from bitching about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:57 AM
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not because it’s meaningful to you or demonstrative of care What do women sacrifice for men to demonstrate their care?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:56 AM
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pick the girl up, hold up the whole conversation like it's an audition, then pay for the whole date it's estimated that men outspend women 5× more and only 20% of men get a gift in return your gf/wife is looking at you with expectation on her eyes , she want the fancy date You go online looking at the type of rings and their costs, you realize that diamond rings are the standards then you go to see the price just for you to realize that what women call a " small gesture " cost thousands of dolla…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:54 AM
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maybe "benevolent" isn't the right word. "benevolent" sounds like "nice guy" and BP hates nice guys I have never seen a bluepill user object to men displaying benevolent behavior towards women they're dating. What they do object to is the expectation of sexual favors in exchange for benevolence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:37 PM
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I mean… feminism is the support of women’s rights for the sake of achieving equality. I dont believe one has to identify as a feminist to want equality, but I do think to vehemently oppose it means you’re anti equality. Some people are. Others disagree with feminist conceptions of "equality" (i.e. support for affirmative action hiring for women), or criticize aspects of feminism as outright inegalitarian, or excessively hostile to men, etc. There are also degrees of equality, like I don't think …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:21 PM
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I have never seen a bluepill-identified user here deny or downplay the effect benevolent behavior when it comes to attracting women, I have only ever seen them endorse it. It doesn't mean they totally deny the role of other things like appearance, money, etc. Or that they argue benevolence guarantees success. But it is something they broadly endorse as being effective, and also morally correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:17 PM
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Ok, which of the things I listed do you not agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:14 PM
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The only thing they have is observation. And observation is a very unreliable teacher. It's the next best thing after telepathy. What you notice depends on where you look, who you interact with, and what you already expect to see. It’s easy to build a theory from patterns that aren’t actually real. There's a lot of research on human sexuality and mate preferences, knowledge doesn't only come from personal experience. Those are also "observations".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:12 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:57 PM
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a hole is a hole m8
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:51 PM
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women brutalizes and seriously injures her male partner first reaction is to mock him <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:49 PM
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When you both like each other, it’s symbiotic, not parasitic. That's an interesting definition of parasitism there. You’re both getting what you want if you both make each other happy. Emotional satisfaction doesn't preclude being taken advantage of in other respects. If a woman was satisfied being the sole financial provider and doing all the housework in a relationship, while her boyfriend is basically like a dependent child, would you object to characterizing his behavior as "parasitic"? I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:08 PM
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A man dates an attractive woman who’s ’leagues ahead’ of him? Obviously she’s had her fun and is settling with the boring nice guy Usually "post-wall" narratives describe a woman whose looks are fading. A straight man dates a trans woman? He’s actually in the closet in some form This is more about semantics than anything. Many people, probably most people worldwide, do not consider MtFs to be really women. She doesn’t sleep with you early? She’s using you and isn’t truly into you A lack of attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:48 AM
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Unfortunately, even genuine attraction does not always preclude parasitism by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:42 AM
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Unfortunately, the criminalization of prostitution does serve to give women more leverage over men in the dating market, by denying alternative avenues of sexual gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:40 AM
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I wasn't endorsing those opinions, I disagree with them mostly. I'm just explaining what bloops generally believe IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:38 AM
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1 and 2 are endorsements of certain ideas, 3 and 4 are opposition to certain ideas, but 3 can easily be reframed as endorsing an idea ("most women emphasize compatibility and benevolence when it comes to finding a partner"). Opposition to certain beliefs can be just as integral to an ideology as endorsing them, like how opposition to capitalism is central to Marxism. But no reasonable person would characterize Marxists as merely anti-capitalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:52 AM
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All of these are much more specific than just "not red pill".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:49 AM
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The only thing that unites blue pill is disagreement with red at least on something. I can say that the vast majority of blue-pill identified/leaning people I've seen here agree on quite a few things: Supportive of feminism Believe that benevolent behavior substantially increases men's dating success Hostile to the idea that many/most women are highly selective when it comes to physical and financial traits. Skeptical of scientific research on human mating in general, does not like the idea of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:43 AM
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There was a ton of proof that Depp likely initiated the abuse and that Heard was reciprocating Feel free to provide it. I was asking Heard supporters for it a few years back and they always stopped responding There's plenty of evidence that Amber was the primary aggressor, with JD frequently attempting to de-escalate, including but not limited to: Audio of Amber taunting him for running away in fights Audio of JD characterizing Amber as frequently initiating violence, and her accepting the chara…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 07:39 AM
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What evidence points to Depp being the "starting point"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 07:28 AM
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There is plenty of evidence for Amber being the primary aggressor in their relationship, from their text messages, convos, police reports, their counselor, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 07:24 AM
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hence why women who work full time also take on the majority of childcare and housework. "Full-time" can mean anywhere from 30-60 hours. And even if both partners work the same amount, one partner may still contribute substantially more to household expenses. I know women who work full time while living with their boyfriends, but their boyfriends pay the rent, bills, etc. You need to draw a distinction between working vs. paying for expenses, the latter matters more. If my girlfriend works 60 ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:39 AM
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That's not what he's talking about, he's talking about women complaining about how highly desirable men won't commit to them, and applying that label to men as a whole. The ramblings of (frequently undesirable) men online are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:37 AM
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Women do the majority of mental and physical load in relationships And men are the primary earner in most relationships. More and more women are choosing to remain single because instead of men trying to make themselves into better partner Women get away with being bad partners by default because men have low standards when it comes to how they're treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:35 AM
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We are all told that our happiness comes second if not third. We're all told that we're too shallow, that we're too demanding, that we're picky. And then we're also constantly told that we should choose better. I'm sure these sentiments exist but they are marginalized and labelled as misogynistic in mainstream discourse. and maybe even harder than you. "x to doubt".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:34 AM
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I think sacrifice is very closely associated with maturity. Part of growing up, for me at least, was learning that I needed to start doing more for others. And that’s not even touching on the obvious “which women? All women? They’re not a monolith” etc. No group is a total monolith, but women's demands in partners are validated to an extent that men's aren't. We don't call women babies when they outright say they want a man who is a provider and protector, but the second a woman has to do a load…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:31 AM
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Accusing someone of being "too picky" doesn't sound very helpful to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:04 PM
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Your wording was very personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:01 PM
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I'm saying there's a tie between how men process conflict and how they express emotions TF is this supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:00 PM
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I'm not interested in any sort of classes/hobby groups and I'm not sure why you seem so intent on pushing them, when I never asked for advice???
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:31 PM
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I am aware. Men (and women) are not monoliths and even the same individual can react to conflict differently depending on the circumstance. But OP was specifically alluding to women's complaints about men withdrawing from conflicts instead of hashing it out there and then, which is what many women would prefer. Additionally OP mentions men not being emotionally expressive enough No, OP is claiming that women complain about men not being emotionally expressive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:30 PM
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For my part I do primarily blame the activists drawing overbroad conclusions, not the researchers themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:28 PM
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I'm already a good cook
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:27 PM
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Frame this carefully? Take a deep breath, let's slow this down. He didn't say the latter, only the former, and it wasn't used as filler text in the way that LLMs do. OP gave a reason for wanting to be careful. I think you're just coping because you don't have any counterarguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:06 PM
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"Withdraw during conflict instead of processing verbally" This is what OP was referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:02 PM
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I live in Canada, nurses and non-physician medical careers are quite well paid here. I was mainly talking about the US where they make eye-watering sums.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:02 AM
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Nursing and other non-physician medical careers tend to be female dominated and pay very well. Accounting also pays decently. Teaching doesn't pay great admittedly but they get way more vacation time than most workers. Above all, none of what you said proves pay discrimination or hiring discrimination against women. I've even went so far as to link several studies demonstrating hiring discrimination disfavoring men, which you've conveniently ignored........ the men in those fields are more likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:00 AM
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If employers give more hours to men, more frequently employ and promote men, then it is still pay discrimination. I would not call it pay discrimination, I would call it hiring discrimination or something analogous. Being denied the same opportunities to work is not the same as receiving less pay for doing the same work. And I can't speak for promotions or scheduling (though most jobs have consistent hours), but I can say I've seen far more evidence for resume discrimination against than women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:48 AM
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OP never mentioned being physically destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:49 AM
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Not being as emotionally expressive as you, or not giving verbal reassurances as frequently as you, doesn't mean men can't "process their emotions". Men are not defective women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:47 AM
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I think men shouldn't be discouraged from it but nor should it be pushed on them. Sometimes there's value in keepings things to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:46 AM
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Everything else aside, I thought we were all in agreement that feeling unable to express emotions is a negative element of male psychology IMO men facing social consequences for being too emotionally expressive is a problem, but men simply not wanting to be very emotionally expressive is not a problem. Unfortunately women sometimes take issue with the latter. Overall there should be less policing by women (and other men) on how men should or shouldn't express their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:45 AM
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If you are arguing that employers systemically engage in pay discrimination against women, as many progressives/feminists do, then it seems to be the most relevant metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:30 AM
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Why would you control for these variables To understand how much, if any, of that disparity is caused by employer pay discrimination. The fact that women are more likely to be stay at home parents, working part time, or are in roles which are paid less, or are promoted less frequently is all due to sexism in society. Women are the primary caregivers of children in virtually every single human society and culture. Women are clearly biologically adapted towards childrearing in ways that men aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:38 AM
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Wait for them to argue that a recent Democratic POTUS doesn't represent the mainstream left.........
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:35 AM
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Perhaps our they are agreeing with each other, that totally depends on the exact argument and context. In the context of weighing in on a dispute, what else could "support" mean but to take their side? I see sexism claims from men constantly on debates about age gaps but often the women just think something the men don't like. Favoring someone in a dispute because of their sex is sexist, by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:20 PM
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I affirmed quite explicitly that many women are sexually assaulted by men not even a few comments ago. "Many women have been sexually assaulted by men (true)" So what are you even talking about at this point? Yes, male-perpetrated sexual violence against women is not rare. But at the same time much of the discourse surrounding sexual violence by women is either factually incorrect (downplaying the prevalence of female perpetration) or morally objectionable (assigning collective blame/responsibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:58 PM
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I agree, but this innocuous framing is disingenuous when it's in the context of conflicts with men, which is the topic of this post. In these contexts, automatically supporting other women goes hand-in-hand with opposing men's interests and grievances. Call it what it is: chauvinism and sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:29 PM
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"Pretending men don't rape or commit sexual assault" That's exactly what was said. Or rather, a reasonable interpretation of what was said, as opposed to a literal one ("men never rape"). If you disagree then feel free to clarify, what exactly do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:27 PM
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Well, what exactly do you mean/include by "women supporting each other"? It seems very vague. Women supporting their female friends' endeavors? Women patronizing women's sports? Women siding with other women in interpersonal disputes involving men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:24 PM
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I've seen a wide variety of male objections to women's discourse on SA, but I've genuinely never once seen a man argue that male-perpetrated SA doesn't happen with some frequency? In any case the burden of proof is on you, feel free to provide examples if you have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:19 PM
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Pretending men don't rape or commit sexual assault Genuinely who says this? Can you find me a single example? acting women talking about it or saying anything about it is worse "Talking about it" is a pointlessly vague description. It depends on what they're saying. "Many women have been sexually assaulted by men (true)" is a different statement from "The overwhelming majority of sexual predators are men (false)" or "Men who don't do enough to stop rapists are part of the problem (collective bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:14 PM
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Okay, and which comments under that post do you consider to be excessively defensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:36 AM
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When men judge other men more favorably than women, when men side with other men in gendered disputes, would you also choose to characterize that as "men supporting each other"? Or would you choose another term ("sexism", "male chauvinism", "misogyny", etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:27 AM
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Women have a strong in-group bias. This doesn't mean that women can't be horrible to other women, not any more than white people in the antebellum South couldn't be horrible to other white people. But it does mean that they will typically view other women more favorably than men, judge other women more favorably than men, etc. So hand-waving it away as "well women aren't good to each other 100% of the time" kind of misses the point, which is that women are frankly more sexist than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:24 AM
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Cooking is a good skill to develop but it's a solitary activity. Cooking groups/classes aren't exactly common.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:18 AM
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Most of the time when I point out problematic behavior coming from some men, a lot of guys immediately take it upon themselves to defend whole men population, even though i called out only some men and only about specific issue Can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:00 AM
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you can't force them to do something they don't want Supporting equality only when it benefits you is hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:52 PM
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It's hypocritical to support unequal conscription if you support equality whenever it benefits women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:37 PM
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I don't think there's any truth value to National Socialism because it's a prescriptive ideology, and the same is true for most political ideologies. At their core they are endorsements of certain values, preferences, and policies and these endorsements cannot reasonably characterized as "true" or "false".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:45 AM
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The "ragebait" that feminists discuss is overwhelmingly based on first hand experience. How is this not essentially claiming that feminists rarely react negatively to online misandry? And this is irrelevant to the point anyways, I wasn't talking about misogyny or misandry being expressed IRL, I was talking about it being expressed on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:39 AM
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i.e. "we are always the victims even though your gender role is being enforced with criminal penalties and ours isn't" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:31 AM
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He's probably Finnish, their last prime minister was literally a female. It's worse when women do it because it's hypocritical (women advocate more strongly for equality when it benefits them) and chauvinistic (they are not supporting equal conscription for their own benefit).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:27 AM
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It's like saying "women do X" when in fact a teensy minority of women do X If the claim is that "men gatekeep relationships" I wouldn't endorse it, if the claim is "highly desirable men gatekeep relationships", then I would endorse that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:19 AM
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Women commit sexual violence against men with some frequency, and are as likely if not more likely than men to use physical violence towards their partners. https://web.archive.org/web/20140705143404/http://www.dottal.org/LBDUK/references_examining_men_as_vict.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20200102220428/https://web.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm And for the record, I don't think that SA or domestic violence are necessarily motivated by hostility towards the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:18 AM
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You don't think feminists react to misogynistic social media posts? Or that men don't experience misandry IRL? Do you have any evidence for your claims or did you pull them out of your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:16 AM
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Like women don't spew hate towards men online?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:16 AM
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Women are getting with men How is this relevant to anything I said? Do you think men in relationships can't be misogynistic? If not, then why would that be the case in the inverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:15 AM
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The belief that men gatekeep relationships assumes women value commitment more No, the prevailing RP belief is that men, particularly desirable men, gatekeep commitment when there is already a sexual relationship. is questionable at best given men are more dependent on romantic relationships than women (also see a discussion of this study here, discussing that men are more eager to enter into relationships, express more desire for a partner when single, fall in love more quickly, say that they l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:34 AM
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No. I am in university so most people have only part time jobs Most people work full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:32 AM
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You don't know any men that pay for most activities/dates? You don't know any men that spend far more money on gifts than their partner does for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:08 AM
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What do men contribute in relationships withour children and living separately? $$$ And also, most couples tend to move in with each other eventually. If it lasts long enough then sure, many relationships never reach that stage though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:07 AM
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Also, if relationships cost women less, why is it that the happines difference between single and married men is greater than in women? Because you're talking about married couples. When couples move in together women tend to do more domestic chores, which means more work. When they have children women tend to be the primary caregivers, which means A LOT more work. But none of this is applicable to childless couples that are living separate. In these relationships men overwhelmingly contribute m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:55 AM
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The person you responded to never said that men shouldn't choose relationships, or that men. He just said that being able to get hookups means you're desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:30 AM
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It's easy for a woman to say that since you're not expected to contribute money and effort to the same extent that men are......
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:29 AM
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It would disincentivize employers from hiring those with health conditions, especially paid leave. It also seems fundamentally unfair for healthy employees to get the same pay for more work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:14 AM
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That only works so long as someone's condition doesn't exceed the sick pay entitlement, Also, it creates an incentive for people to exaggerate/fake sickness to get more time off if the sick pay entitlement is use it or lose it and can't be converted into anything else. Maybe you don't have a problem with that, but at that point just make it a single pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 11:13 PM
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Where did I say I was opposed to PTO? I'm just not convinced that more PTO would satisfy leftist's desire for equality. If, say, everyone got 30 days of PTO, which is frankly quite generous, and a woman with endo needed 10 days or so for to rest due to period pains, she has a third less time for vacation/leisure than others. Does that sound acceptable to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 11:12 PM
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I'm not sure if that would satisfy leftists' obsession with equal outcomes. People with health conditions will be using much of that PTO to deal with them, while everyone else will use it mostly for vacation/leisure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 10:09 AM
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A lot of this is in the context of childcare though, which you left out. I've definitely seen this term used by childless women as well. Possibly even more frequently than mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:15 AM
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Can you think from men's perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:39 AM
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belongs to the same demographic that statistically commits the overwhelming majority of sexual and intimate partner violence. Although men commit the majority of sexual violence, female-perpetrated sexual violence is consistently found to be quite common as well, when researchers actually bother to study it. Women are as likely if not more likely than men to be physically violent towards their partners, they are just less likely to inflict serious injury. This should be unsurprising considering …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:32 AM
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Right, because obviously left-wing women (or men) never cheat on their spouses.....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:37 PM
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So what? Women call men short/broke/small dick whatever all the time. Cry me a river.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:14 PM
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Have you never heard women claim that male partners refusing to do chores (or rather, enough chores to their satisfaction) is off-putting and makes them not want to have sex? Never?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:03 PM
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If you don’t like it that much, then don’t do it. I agree. Would you say the same be said for any female complaints about men? At least ones that don't involve violence or SA.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:12 PM
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Most of us aren't like that. How would you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:11 PM
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For example, I consider women’s general wariness of men to be warranted due to our lived experiences feeling fear from a man’s actions starting from a young age. Is this logic also applicable to race and crime? If not, then why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:52 AM
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You didn't specify physical fear in your original comment, and in any case I don't see why physical fear should be the only valid reason to develop reservations towards a group. And for the record, women are as likely if not more likely to be physically violent towards male partners than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:51 AM
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Why is it that online misandry is always labelled as "ragebait" by women, but never online misogyny? Is Andrew Tate also "ragebait"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:47 AM
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