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Why wouldn't it? Humans are social creatures. Unless you're like Spock, living in isolation/loneliness makes you depressed. So obviously, a single/lonely people getting into a relationship would fix their depression. The whole "relationships won't make you less depressed" is just bullshit. It's a pretentious way of telling lonely men "your problems aren't valid, so just shut up about them."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:23 PM
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This figure is meaningless when you apply basic filters to it. How much of this female population of 3 billion are elderly grandmothers, married women, woman in relationships, minors etc. When you remove all those people, how many of these women can he actually feasibly meet? Even if he has a soulmate, what if she lives in some random city in Zimbabwe. Do you think they'll just meet on some dating app and get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:30 PM
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you ever just, completely forget a word? I think the term you're looking for is 'Virtue Signaling' Basically a fancy term for grandstanding about an issue you don't really care about to appear like you have a lot of virtue
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/24 11:46 PM
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That was just one guy who said that. I don't see it as a very common sentiment among the male gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:18 PM
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This is kind of the Nice Guy argument but with the female gender "We [the female gender] are the nice ones. Why don't they [the male gender] see that? Must be because they're all assholes"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:59 PM
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Feminists making fun of men's insecurities is just the "progressive" version of the "u mad bro?" and "triggered" memes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:58 PM
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If someone never struggles, what advice can they give that would practically help? "Just be naturally attractive and have naturally good social skills" The best advice comes from people who struggled (ideally the same struggles as you), but were able to overcome them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:59 PM
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I think we have to stop falling for this "man or bear" ragebait.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 09:52 PM
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That's pretty much the definition of kafkatrap "If you deny being one of the bad ones, it means you're one of the bad ones"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 07:30 PM
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All these trends are like "Close your eyes 70%". Did everyone forget the word "Squint"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:17 PM
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That's been debunked so many times. There's no reason to assume virgin men are more prone to misogyny than non-virgin men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:45 PM
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This is some 2015-era chronically online moral panic bs. Even "normies" these days admit that misogynistic men are more successful with women than non-misogynistic men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:28 PM
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I think a lot of men have always secretly liked tall women it's just now more socially acceptable with all the "death by snu snu" memes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:57 PM
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"damned if you do, damned if you don't" These people will look for any excuse to bash men. Best not to take them seriously
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/24 11:51 PM
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There's this common misconception, especially online, that misogynistic men are often virgins and virgin men are more misogynistic. I just said this in another sub. The whole "lonely men are far-right privileged white misogynists" is just a "progressive" way to bully virgins. It's not even factually true. But modern "leftists" need a way to bully the misfits and weirdos of society. And they do this portraying these misfits as these oppressive reactionaries who now deserve to be bullied as their …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/24 11:29 PM
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Only if she's a car women. Average women won't be awed by an Audi the same way average men are. There's kind of a meme "Guys buy cars thinking they're chick magnets, but only end up attracting other dudes" Although chicks have an affinity for Jeep Wranglers for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:26 PM
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"Progressives" have been hiding behind the "lonely men are privileged white guys" argument to justify their virgin shaming for some time. But come on, it's such an obviously false narrative. Do they honestly believe the popular rich guys are the ones struggling with women and not the autistic guys who have no friends? At a point the masks comes off and you just have to admit "yeah we just don't like low-status men"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:00 PM
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That's a myth that lonely guys are all far-right conservatives. A lot of "progressives" perpetuate this myth to justify virgin shaming Edit: https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/news/incels-are-not-particularly-right-wing-or-white-but-they-are-extremely-depressed-anxious-and-lonely-according-to-new-research Study from a year and a half ago dismantles the whole "lonely guys are right-wing privileged white guys" narrative that pseudo-leftists love to use
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:33 PM
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I felt bad for the kid, but frankly I enjoyed all the time that was wasted over such petty stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:11 AM
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leftist? Nah that dude's a reactionary who uses lefty sounding rhetoric to seem "woke"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:13 AM
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Why? What makes members of the female gender so special that they completely truthful 100% of the time? Anyone would lie in self-reported poll to make themselves look good. Are most Republicans just gonna say "Yeah we're racist and hate minorities"? Is Jordan Peterson gonna say "I hate women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:25 PM
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Not that surprising when you realise that a lot of "I hate all men/all men are trash" rhetoric is only really directed towards low-status men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:05 PM
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Ask "the manopshere" if they hate women. Chances are they'll respond "no". However I don't think is enough to convince you that the "manopshere" isn't misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:59 PM
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And I'm sure feminists would be more inclined to ally with men's groups if men's groups didn't continually place themselves in direct opposition to feminists. MRA was literally created to combat feminism, and you're wondering why feminists won't work with them? Moreover, this garbage "well id help other men but then feminists wouldn't like it" is just a lazy cop out. Even if it was true (it's not), so what? The manosphere talks day in and day out about how stupid and awful feminists are but sudd…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:14 PM
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regardless of what you think body positivity should have been about, that's not what it ended up being. Body positivity just turned into overweight women complaining that (attractive) men don't find them attractive That's as honest as saying "red-pill is simply about encouraging men to work out and talk to people, not about misogyny"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 05:45 PM
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Yes you're absolutely right, which is why deconstructing toxic masculinity needs to be a core focus in addressing men's issues. I'd be more inclined to agree with this point if I saw feminists supporting these men's support groups. But they often don't. It's kind of hypocritical to be like "Why don't struggling men form support groups and help each other?" only to smear those support groups as being "misogynistic". It's like the meme of the white liberal who claims to support BLM, Palestine and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:40 PM
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That was kind of the point of the body positivity/fat acceptance movement. Not that they have historically done a lot of good for society, but that men and society are unfair for not preferring overweight women, and should basically change their preferences to include them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:35 PM
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No, I'm saying your specific anecdote isn't relevant. Not that how someone is raised and socialized isn't relevant. I honestly think your take here sort of proves my suspicions about this thread. What suspicions are those? You acted as though you didn’t know why people said their anecdotes. I explained. People say their anecdotes because of cognitive dissonance. They want to confirm pre-existing beliefs that don't align with general trends. I'm sure lots of us have anecdotes that contradict your…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 08:35 PM
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It's kind of the way people say it that makes a difference. You can't deny that a lot of people on here talk about neurodivergence like it's a horrible thing and neurodivergent people should just "shut up and learn their place in society". I guess "bad person" was the wrong word choice. There's just kind of a primal disgust some people have with neurodivergence. You can affirm someone's struggles with being ND without coming off as dismissive or aggressive. ​ I too have little cousins on the spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:56 PM
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When people say this they’re met with pitchforks all the same. I've seen several times on the sub where someone attributes their lack of success to being neurodivergent and they are met with dismissive responses: "Autism isn't why your struggling, you're just a bad person", "I have ND friends and they have girlfriends, so you have no excuse" No one wants to be objectively analyzed as undesirable even if it’s true Well, that kind of content is banned here under rule 6. I think the undesirables wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:46 PM
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The thing is blue-pillers twist it to make it look like undesirable people did something to deserve their undesirability, rather than just accept some people were dealt a shitty hand in life. This is where the just-world part comes in. Ex: "You're undesirable because you are a bad person" vs "You're undesirable because you are neurodivergent"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:03 PM
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This is a strawman. There's a difference between the obvious fantasy elements of media vs the social aspects
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:01 PM
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Conservative Christians also drink water. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 02:50 PM
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The misunderstanding comes from feminist projections of their in-group bias and notions of gender tribalism. Many feminists view their gender as some united sisterhood, so they assume men are some united brotherhood. This does not match reality at all. If an unhinged man wants to commit an act of violence, he's not gonna stop because some random men somewhere tells him "hey bro, that's not cool". This projection is also why stuff like Patriarchy Theory is so prevalent in feminist circles. There …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 04:15 PM
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So if a poor, ugly, neurodivergent man in his 20s is struggling is he supposed to think "It's actually all my fault because of the society I created"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:57 PM
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Good vid. It's ironic that "progressives" with all their theories of intersectionality, systemic racism, base & superstructure etc turn a blind eye to how media portrayal of a demographic affects how society views said demographic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/24 06:58 PM
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There's a difference between a political ideology and an ethnic/racial group
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/24 06:44 PM
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It's not romantic rejection. It's a general social rejection, and romance is a subset of social life. (The original commenter simply said "rejection", not romantic rejection", so I'm going by the former) You're acting like these two things are completely independent of each other, which they're not. It's not like "If you struggle in maths, you might do good in English". it's "You struggle in algebra, so you're gonna struggle even more in calculus"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:51 PM
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Do you think formal romantic rejections are the only ones that take a toll on people? "No Steve, I don't want to be your girlfriend". Average shy nerds grow up bullied and friendless. Do you really think on their 21st birthday all those experiences just disappear for them and they think "Imma go to the club and rizz up some chicks. Nothing could go wrong"? Even if they do, no one becomes "attracted to their confidence". Everyone thinks they're delusion and lack self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:35 PM
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Women are expected to follow social rules and ‘blend in’ far more, and often, especially at a young age, its enforced by any means necessary, so an autistic woman is more likely to learn how to mask because women are expected to socially integrate far more than men. I honestly don't understand why people think autistic girls mask better cause they're "socialized to conform". Do you think autistic boys weren't bullied, socially excluded, seen as weird etc growing up?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:27 PM
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It's actually this guy's second account. His first one got suspended site-wide. I actually noticed this when I saw this account is only 2 weeks old even though I've seen been seeing his posts for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:45 PM
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interesting vid, but some of these comments are just straight racist. Like a lot of people using the term "currycel" and mocking the guy for being Indian
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/24 04:43 PM
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The gaslight isn't that they lied about it. That's just lying. The gaslight is that they deny lying about and claim that you just made it all up. ex: "Just be yourself." (the lie) "I did "be myself" and it didn't work. You lied to me." "I never told you to be yourself. You're just making that up to get mad at me" (the gaslight) edit: formatting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:08 AM
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Men are not a monolith. I'm a leftist and I support men's mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:36 PM
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Classic blue-pill women telling struggling men to "man up". Isn't that what y'all consider "toxic masculinity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:49 PM
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Because Karen incidents are public, so there's a bunch of people to film it. A man who destroys his own wall in his own house isn't gonna post it online.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:35 PM
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"If you know they're assholes, then why are you jealous of them" is getting to be kind of a tired gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:32 PM
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I feel like you're shifting the goalposts here. You talk about hypothetical men and women in a vague way, and when I answer in a way that did not satisfy your gotcha, include the caveat that "they do bitch about women", while also ignoring the context I provided. Edit: mistakes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:09 PM
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No, but if those men were constantly bitching about how their girlfriends are trash and all women these days are hoes, "where have all the good women gone" etc, it's fair that the "nice, but unattractive" women feel offended about being ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:22 PM
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It's textbook gaslighting/double speak "Women don't care about looks, status, etc. That's just manosphere insecurities they project on women" "Of course women care about looks, status etc. If you had eyes and ears this would be obvious. No one lied to you"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:52 PM
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In the caricature you created, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:39 PM
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But it is his fault if he's single. Nobody else should have to do anything about him being single. These two things are not mutually exclusive. It doesn't have to be anyone's fault that someone is facing misfortunes. That doesn't mean people are obligated to accommodate everyone's hardships. It's not some dichotomy where "it's either your fault or my fault".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:24 PM
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It's not real advice. It's a smug, condescending way of implying that lonely men are slimey misogynists and that's why they're lonely. It's like if you were struggling with getting a job and your friend said to you "have you tried not writing your resume in crayon?" And before I get accused of saying something I'm not, no where do I claim that people with social deficiencies shouldn't work on improving themselves. I'm criticizing the efficacy of sarcastic quips branded as advice like "um sweaty,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:11 PM
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The one thing all the black pill young men I've engaged with have in common with each other is black and white thinking. I don't totally agree. In conversations like these, there's an implicit understanding that every trend/generalization has exceptions. This is why people make generalizations without adding a disclaimer "not all men/women". The disclaimer is implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:04 PM
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We only bring up studies and stats because some people deny the most obvious things Like no one needs a study to prove that being ND is a hindrance in dating, that women are picker than men, than looks matter etc, but some people still insist all this is made up propaganda. So we pull up studies to prove our point and they go "haha autistic weirdos using studies to overanalyze dating" It's like those people who ask for a source, but when they get a source say "I'm not reading that/ too many word…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:45 PM
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the nuance is implied tho It's like if I made a statement "humans have 2 legs" and some smartass responds "Oh I but have a friend whose mom's leg was amputated, so you're argument is invalid. Checkmate!" Do you want every post and comment on here to have a disclaimer "I'm only talking about SOME men/women. NOT ALL men/women are like this"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:17 PM
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yes I edited it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:56 PM
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People do say it. A lot of people say that if US Republicans stopped being so blatantly racist, they'd get support from right-leaning wealthier immigrants. Other than that, conservatives have more political power than the left and thus have way more leeway to say inflammatory things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:48 PM
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I see what you mean about revenge culture. Our mentality should be "I suffered so I don't want anyone else to suffer". Not "I suffered so everyone else must suffer too"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/24 06:58 PM
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I think most if not every chronically single person has asked their friends in relationships how they got it only to hear the same cliche over and over "oh it just happened, ya know"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:26 AM
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Neither is the reaction people have to socially maladapted behavior. Except it kind of is. How we view ND people today is drastically different from how we used to 100 years ago. We no longer cage the mentally ill as cast them as freak shows. We did this by challenging the notion that the mentally ill need to be "stamped out" of society. Not by telling mentally ill people "pull yourself up by your bootstraps and be normal"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:08 PM
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The existance of Autistic men goes against their dogma that all men live life on easy mode and are part of this cabal that uses its social privilege to oppress woman. So they decide its easier to deny our struggles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 02:21 PM
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I love how the headline makes it sound like some revolutionary idea as if men paying on dates isn't the norm. That being said, isn't the whole reason we have a gender role that dictates men pay on dates BECAUSE men are also supposed to be providers? So this is just a feminist arguing for traditional gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/23 10:49 PM
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If you don’t like the word “patriarchy”, just replace it with “forced gender roles” in your head If they're "forced gender roles", then why not call them that? Calling everything "the patriarchy" is just a lazy gotcha to blame everything on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:23 PM
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This isn't a real argument. It's just an unfalsifiable claim based on speculation and assumptions. Tbh it's just an excuse to treat men at the bottom of the barrel like shit while feeling righteous. You could literally claim this about anyone. You can equally say "poor people only seem nice because they have no power. If they were in Jeff Bezos shoes, they'd be even worse" I'm not saying women should date unsuccessful men out of charity. I'm criticizing the mental gymnastics used to claim that p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:47 PM
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If you dismiss everyone who has questions as some right-wing concern troll, how you you expect people to learn? To be honest it kind of seems like a way to avoid honestly engaging with people
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/23 03:02 PM
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By treating our struggles as non-existent and generalizing NDs who are struggling as bitter and unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:51 AM
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I suppose that is technically possible (in which case OP would be the biggest pick-me out there). But what really throws me off is the the barrage on insults in the last paragraph. It's one thing to say "Here's ways to improve" vs "You're all just lazy bitter assholes". Like even many NT people are able to sympathize with those struggles, but a self-proclaimed autistic person can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:13 PM
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thinly veiled? This is blatant ableism. OP claimed to be autistic in another comment and I'm starting to doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 08:14 PM
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frankly, i don’t exactly have a mental conception of what boundaries even are so i play it safe That's an interesting point you bring up. I think a lot of ND men, myself included, have this issue. However the problem with "playing it safe" in dating often translates to "being paranoid about making woman uncomfortable". And if we express this, then we're labeled as 'nice guys who view women as puzzles to unlock'. I guess it's a self-fullfilling prophecy, but is the reward worth the risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:43 PM
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This is just a long way of saying "just be confident bro" which has been addresses several times in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:16 PM
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If both men and women enforce the so-called patriarchy and it hurts people of both genders, how is it patriarchal/misogynistic? It looks like you're here in good faith, but tbh your comment kinda reads like a gotcha "It's your own fault your life sucks. Checkmate males"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:26 PM
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It would get shot down for that if it was that. I've seen married men get called an incel, so I think it's safe to say the word is thrown around haphazardly and has lost all meaning There are already plenty of alternative and queer spaces that embrace male body difference so extremely niche spaces that encompass a small amount of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:48 PM
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You act as if a male body positivity movement wouldn't immediately be shot down as some "inc*l thing"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:54 PM
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nice strawman. btw this is exactly what the original commenter is talking about. You're stereotyping struggling men as misogynist pigs so you have an excuse to not sympathize with them. If you don't want to sympathize with them, that's your choice but don't make some false narrative to make yourself feel morally superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:38 PM
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Thought experiments like these are useless because no one can accurately answer unless they've actually been in such circumstances. And even those who have been in them often forget. It's like a rich person saying "Well if I was poor, I'd work hard and make money instead of complaining like all you brokies"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:09 PM
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lol exactly. Like saying "Even other losers can do it, why can't you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:07 PM
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