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I just made a very poor financial decision (and only then found out how poor it was) and even I'm not betting against that 😅
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/26 05:33 PM
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Honestly, I'm 100% pessimistic about this. Countries like Canada have their merits but they're totally lost in the misandry sauce and not coming out in my lifetime, or the century after I start my dirt nap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/26 05:31 PM
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Definitely. Romania here, we also don't really have a left wing (even more galling for me since one of our major parties has the temerity to call itself social-democrat while being firmly right-wing)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/26 02:17 PM
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One thing people of all genders really need to learn is not to waste loyalty on the toxic and malevolent members of their own bloodlines. I have several relatives whose lives have been ruined by other relatives, including one possible (unproven, before my time) murder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/26 08:18 PM
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On a bit of reflection, "you have to find the right therapist" is bullshit. If I have a problem with the plumbing, call a plumber, and they only make it worse, you wouldn't tell me I need to find the right plumber - you'd tell me I need to find a plumber who's Not Shit. Now, human minds and experience are more complex than human-made plumbing; but I don't see that as a reason why the principle wouldn't hold.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/26 07:34 AM
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Should have done that from moment 1, honestly. Once you post shit like that online, there's no coming back; I'm willing to bet money Armadillo just made her circumspect, not repentant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/26 04:51 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I'd kill every Talib at the rank of platoon commander/ equivalent and upwards if I could, just on general principle. Doesn't change the fact that they've got one of, if not the best stated (not actual!) position on the sexual exploitation of boys, of any organisation with any kind of armed power
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/26 10:15 AM
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Funny how the Taliban of all people are the best about protecting such exploited boys. Notionally, of course - they'll work as hard as ants to enforce their dystopian BS, but not their death mandate against bacha bazi.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/26 09:22 PM
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We're not traumatized because we're not allowed to be, especially not about getting sexual attention from women. Even if it's bullying through fake sexual attention.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/26 09:15 PM
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Idk mang I rather like that I'm considered so unattractive there aren't any women trying to seduce me, rape me, or trap me in a marriage; and feminists of all genders are so willing to dehumanize themselves in my eyes so that I don't feel like I ever have to pull a hair for them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 03:50 AM
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The problem is male hyperagency. Men and boys are expected to sniff out every lie they're fed, and not absorb any bad lessons, as soon as they're out of the diapers; and are held fully culpable if they don't. That line of thinking is potentially older than the first city and I don't see how we're going to get rid of it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 03:48 AM
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She wants to be left alone? Can do, and without the need of any constant reminder. I wouldn't piss on such people if they were on fire
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 03:46 AM
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They do want more wage slaves, they just also insist on not making any real concessions toward their production
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 11:26 PM
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"Experts", "one professor"... someone ought to get sued into early retirement over posting this dreck. And the LLM that probably wrote most of it should be deleted. While we're at it, investigate this wannabe Forbes clone site. Edit: Ok they start giving out names and institutions later on at least but that's not enough to salvage the article.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 03:21 PM
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All this kind of article creates is division, hostility and alienation. It's more than likely all it's designed to create.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 03:18 PM
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I know they do that generally, but it seems not to be at play here, or less at play than in their own 'studies'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 05:01 PM
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By the numbers given, over 20% of all humans are self-admitted sex offenders, and then only if we deem 'rapists' too strong a word; and that's just the start of the horror. It's impossible to know how much underreporting is going on in general, not just one specific category; but I'm reasonably sure it's a lot. I wouldn't be surprised to learn the real number unless it's below 50%. And how many of the non-offenders are lifelong virgins like myself, who will have the least hand in raising the nex…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 04:18 PM
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Just because something is true doesn't mean it has to stay true. One great promise where feminism and the left converged, as I understand things, is for liberation (specifically, a framework and permission for individuals and groups to liberate themselves) from the basic constraints of normal human sexuality, and from the imbalances, inequality and suffering it produces. Of course, feminism especially has failed to deliver anything toward this promise, and as far as I can tell, never really trie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 03:50 PM
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I actually think this is harmful. She robbed him of 17 years of his life - forgoing vengeance is one thing - it's the civilized and often correct thing to do - but not this kindness and grace, which is a slap in the face of everyone who didn't ever falsely accuse anyone of rape and yet never received such kind words. It also invites her, and others, to do it again - to Malkinson himself and others. No grace for false rape accusers, I say. Leave them out in the cold where they belong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 08:35 PM
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I understand wanting to be well informed and listening to points of view you don't agree with but am not sure about taking it to the level of inflicting Ana on yourself 😅
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 01:36 PM
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On the one hand, it's always detrimental to be Reddit dogmatic about these things (I hopelessly remind myself 😅) and anything that boosts human rights at the cost of traditional power structures has some significant good in it just from that. On the other, even in its best use cases, feminism will create almost as many problems as it solves, if it even solves them. It is a movement by and for the moneyed and educated elites at its core, after all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/26 01:00 AM
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Socialism is when workers own the means of production (and, less often acknowledged, the products of their work - YMMV). In Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, the workers did not own shit. I was being generous with the 'iffy' to contrast it from the Nazis and because by some accounts the guys at the top, or at least most of them in the early generations, including Stalin, were honest believers, they just sucked at not being gangsters and tyrants. I'm not saying these people weren't socialist bec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/26 02:28 PM
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I've never been versed in how kibbutzim really worked vs how they were represented, but calling the Soviet Union a socialist state is iffy, no matter what their propaganda said, with all the senior cadres living at various levels of bourgeois luxury (they even had their own Epsteins); and calling Nazi Germany one is insane. The Nazis were hand in glove with huge corporations like Krupp, IG Farben, Porsche, etc. Building any analysis from that makes castles built on sand dunes look stable. Anyway…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/26 01:20 PM
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Hey, I'm not imposing anything. I couldn't if I wanted to, as I'm not a mod.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 08:58 AM
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Please, for the love of your brain, stop using LLM and just write whatever you have to say yourself. I have such a case of executive dysfunction that my real career, gaming career and forays into art were all stillborn, and even I don't resort to AI slop.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 12:20 AM
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"Brainwashing in men falling off more slowly than their options, study finds" is what I'm getting out of this. Not that I'd expect good work on today's men and their issues from an institute for family studies. Important to note that they break ideology into "conservative", "moderate" and "liberal", which is typical conservative brain rot. I wonder if they tried to get about a third of the study. If such an overwhelming number report they associate manhood with sacrifice and responsibility, and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 01:36 AM
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Why should they make it harder for themselves to demonize men as a category? And I don't mean why it would be good to avoid doing that, or why we'd want them to do it less. Why would feminists want to do it less, from their perspective?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/26 10:32 PM
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I'll have to visit the UK again at some point because my best friend outside of family live there, but next time will be explicitly a visit. Can't believe I contemplated staying there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/26 10:27 PM
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4.5 after ruining several lives is a slap in the face of everyone else involved. If we weren't all so defanged I'd expect the judge to go into hiding
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/26 09:02 AM
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How to needlessly turn away potential allies and recruits for your cause while gaining and advancing nothing: the video
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 07:40 PM
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If you're going to troll this badly, no need to use so many words
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/26 05:23 AM
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A large enough chunk of the population who serve in the military vocationally and for the long term, yes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/26 05:22 AM
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Conscription is just states being too lazy and cowardly to build an actual military class (yes I'm aware of the danger there, no, it's not worth the moral bankruptcy of conscription, sexist or otherwise). Especially pathetic because in Europe, the worst it'd ever have to stand up to in terms of large-scale ground fighting is Putin's slave armies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/26 01:56 PM
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How long a sentence, two weeks? Three?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/26 07:56 PM
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Frankly, at this point the only reason I have to care about women's perception of danger and how the online BS has elevated it is the very small chance that someone overreacts to my presence, and attacks me or sics the law or white knights at me. For all of me, they're welcome to the higher blood pressure.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/26 09:58 AM
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Well, feminism started in the social elites.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 02:43 PM
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+1. Nobody deserves to go through what those then-kids went through, but I'm not going to respond with grace when they take it out on all men except the ones who have the power to do that shit to this day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 02:42 PM
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I didn't expect feminists to tell the difference between me and a sexual predator whose malice is bridled only by his lack of power, since before I ever heard of Epstein.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 02:40 PM
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Skill issue
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/26 07:04 AM
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I really, really don't want putin to go to his grave a victorious imperialist, and I'm not fit to go to war myself (overweight, very out of shape, extremely disobedient, too careless to survive an hour in live combat) but if Ukraine can't figure out how to win without enslaving its menfolk, I won't celebrate its victory, either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/26 07:22 PM
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If you ever feel like your life is empty or meaningless, consider that someone, probably multiple someones, put their time and energy into creating this hollow joke of an organization.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 02:35 PM
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That's like saying all rocks are bad but granite is equally harmful
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/26 02:05 PM
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This is the answer, and it takes at least one of certain qualities that are severely discouraged by modern society, especially in men and boys, to find another way - or even to find a measure of peace in defeat and alienation as I have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/26 02:04 PM
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The question is, help them do what? Integrate better into a fundamentally toxic society that crushes most of the people in it? Because the language I'm seeing is a lot more "integrate into" than "navigate more smoothly" or something productive like that. If the goal itself is so wrong-headed, I'm not getting any hopes up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/26 09:15 AM
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True. You can spell 'feminism' without 'misandry' but there's very little reason to do so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/26 09:12 AM
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Make a point or sling your hook
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/26 12:12 PM
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Option 2 99+% of the times
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/26 01:23 PM
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For me, it's a simple arithmetic. I don't consider myself a particularly accomplished, sociable or desirable guy, but I'm pretty sure there are many people who would benefit from socializing or associating with me as opposed to worse people or leaving that social interaction 'position', if you will, vacant. My isolation is their loss to an incalculably higher degree than it is mine, because as a single person I can only suffer so much, in terms of capacity for negative emotion, multiplied by tim…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/26 10:13 AM
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These people are not "the Left" to me. They're just wrongfully claiming and using the label (when they even are - they're actually correct when they reject it). They're only of any use insofar as they fight fascism, which comes to not much use.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 11:50 PM
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Even with men it doesn't push into outright misogyny, it pushes them away from women. I've given up on any ideas I might've had at one time or another, of a romantic relationship, or activism in women's favour, or anything like that. I don't want to see any women subjugated or constrained for such an unsound reason as their gender, but even less do I want to crawl on my belly for their approval (or the illusion that it's in the cards).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 05:29 PM
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They are right wingers, I say. Feminism being considered left is simply a widespread mistake, hardly the first of our species.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 05:24 PM
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Gynocentric consensus is going to barbecue this man's entire career ☹️
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/26 04:43 AM
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Sad that even being in the Epstein Files as someone they whine about is no guarantee someone is a good person or even worth listening to
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 06:42 PM
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I hope Ana donates her body to science upon death, and it's examined thoroughly. There's probably an anomaly in her brain that would still be scientifically significant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 06:38 PM
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Holy shit, this hit me right where I live. My woman boss once told me to my face that I'm "not a man" and that she meant this as a compliment (a favourable comparison to the men in her life, whom she was grousing about)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 08:12 PM
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I would begin by not expecting this problem can be fixed in one generation (or three), much less a single office term of 4-5 years. After that, how much of the policies enumerated by u/SpicyMarshmellow , u/omegaphallic , u/Dry_Fact_4584 etc I'd try to implement would unfortunately be inversely proportional to how much I care about cratering my political career.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/26 04:26 AM
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IIRC Tate was pretty huge right before he peaked; when he was arrested in Romania there were mass protests to release him in (of all places) Greece, and possibly elsewhere. But between his legal troubles, the apparition of that massively deflating wojak of him, and his sanity slippage, he's not likely to recover. Especially not after he was made an arse of by a mediocre boxer in front of the whole Internet.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 07:02 PM
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Just because issues like men's mental health, male loneliness and career struggles are taken seriously in small corners of the 'Net (and world) like this sub, doesn't mean that the overall discourse has shifted from these struggles being shown as signs of contemptible failure, undeserving of support, in men. The language nowadays is often softer, but the condemnation isn't any weaker.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/26 02:10 PM
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Red flag. If they are helping any of the men you listed, well, I wouldn't tell anyone in that kind of need not to go there; but I definitely expect there will be indoctrination going on, and that men who reject it firmly enough get turned out. As well, helping or "helping" men in the name of feminism reeks of trying to buy legitimacy at bargain bin price by handing out a few crumbs. Maybe I could've mustered some positivity for this if I found out about it in 2021, but not in 2026. Of course, I'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 08:00 PM
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In principle, I'd like to be rhetorically effective, though not as a top priority; in practice, I'm terrible at it, so might as well be as candid as I dare to be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 05:02 PM
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But I am an anti-feminist. I consider feminism a pernicious, supremacist movement family that opposes my egalitarian values, and denies me the status of a full human, in pretty much the same way classical, misogynistic patriarchy denies women that status. If feminists call me names, that's nothing new. Yawn.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 03:59 PM
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Idk what to tell you, whenever I try to meet feminists halfway, I get spit on. Proverbially. Most of the time, they don't even realize they're doing it, like when my boss, F, told me in full hearing of a room full of other women that I'm not a man as an intended compliment because I'm not like her boyfriend, who she was complaining about. And this is a person who, as far as I can tell, has convinced herself that she's a friend to me and holds me in considerable regard. Sure, she's much better ed…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 02:44 PM
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Just because someone is also being oppressed by billionaires and their pet politicians and thugs, doesn't mean they're in my corner, or even a viable ally. Especially not if they're spouting bigotry, and especially not if they're spouting bigotry against a group that includes me. The enemy of my enemy is the enemy of my enemy, nothing more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 06:32 PM
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Well they must be right, because there is no such thing as a Scotsman
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 06:29 AM
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Well, I was oversimplifying a bit. If you're successful, feminist and anodyne enough, many feminist women might accept you as a junior or even near-equal partner, from what I've seen. But that's relative success, so these men are definitionally going to be a small co-opted minority. They do offer the temptation of potentially entering that minority of accepted men (and lie that it's scalable beyond a small elite). And of course, not all feminist women will do this, it's one of the main points of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/26 11:12 PM
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Traditional Right Wing: You get to be the expendable protector and provider, but in exchange you get held up as superior to women and in authority over them. Feminists: You get to be the expendable protector and provider, with no thanks, no privileges; and we'll shit on you relentlessly. Men who don't reject both of these: [Overwhelmingly prefer Traditional Right Wing over Feminism] Feminists: [Surprised Pikachu face]
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/26 07:55 PM
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The very idea of debating someone like Pearl, or propping her up as a proponet for men, is absurd. If Ana wanted a legitimate, challenging discussion/ debate, she'd have shown (slightly) more sincerity if she tried to tap me from my near perfect obscurity - and it would've been my fault if I suffered myself to play the tomato can vs an experienced public figure with more clout than a million of me (Unlike JustPearlyDumbass, I would not do this).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/26 07:08 PM
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That's because the laws were made by and for capitalists, not, I believe, anything to do with sex work specifically.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 03:33 PM
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Somewhere between 1 and 2, I guess? Make it like any other trade (family). I had ideas of 4, or selective 4 for my political enemies, in the past, but it's an unnecessary hassle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 03:31 PM
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There are still plenty of men who will fall for this drivel, unfortunately; but I doubt you'll find them here. Edit: Also, this post is probably AI slop
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 02:23 PM
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Ana Psychology should honestly star in a horror comedy. She wouldn't even have to act.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 08:59 PM
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Should the 13 Colonies have stayed under British rule? Should the States have let the South secede? I'm an amateur student of history at best, but saying "ever" about something that last happened less than two hundred years ago seems just a bit gauche
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/26 10:21 PM
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Not American but if anyone tried this on me, I'd have lied that I voted Trump just to spite her (Georgescu was close enough where I live, thankfully he lost this time).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/26 10:16 PM
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Far as I'm concerned, radical feminism is the real feminism, and the moderate, edges sandpapered off feminism types are just lukewarm enabling of the excesses of radical feminism (and sometimes, secondarily, of misogyny, on the opposite side). From the beginning, the first wave of feminism was an elite-based, supremacist movement that took an extremely noble, humanist goal (gender equality), twisted it to its own end, and attached itself to that noble goal like a tumor. Even then, they were doin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 03:25 PM
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And I don't know if this makes one better or worse than the other, but the far right dangles carrots in front of men for fulfilling their assigned roles (how much of this carrot which men are allowed to nibble at differs wildly, but it's never much). Most feminisms demand the same, but also show no carrot, and are offended at the mere suggestion of doing so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 10:49 AM
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This reminds me of when Greta Thunberg was skewering Andrew Tate, and of all the insults one could level at that stain on the face of humanity, she goes for "small dick energy". Trying to hit someone where it'll hurt him specifically (in this case, because Tate is essentially married to the hurr-durr ultra-macho ideal due to either receiving too many or too few kicks to the head in his youth) is not enough to excuse this, nor is a lack of creativity or a brain fart, or all those three together.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 10:03 AM
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Nope! Transmisandry is rampant even in queer spaces that are 100% pro transwomen. From what I've seen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/26 09:03 PM
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I'm not in the frame of mind to join any movement, and haven't been in a long time; I'm little (if anything) more than a guest here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/26 02:32 AM
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While I'm not about to let misandry push me into misogyny, I can't deny that it's made me care about misogyny much less than I would've otherwise, and used to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/26 09:02 PM
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Feminism did it first
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 10:38 AM
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More like misandry has reveaked how much of the left (most of it) is fake and/ or superficial.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 09:28 AM
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"Borderline" bigoted? What border, the far one?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/25 07:53 AM
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I have noticed this, even as isolated as I am. A lot more of the Tumblr accounts I've intersected with have been trans men venting about/ driven up a wall by transmisandry, than any population statistics would've had me expect (even statistics on who uses Tumblr). If one excludes the bots, of course. Bots will drown out everyone and everything else, if they're let.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/25 03:04 PM
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🪞
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 05:25 AM
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And you never will, as long as you come here with the attitude you've shown
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 05:20 AM
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I was going to go point by point and give a considered response, but frankly, you don't deserve it. If you want to insult and shame the men here on their own sub, why should anyone take your criticisms seriously?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 05:18 AM
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Am I reading this wrongly, or are these laws wide enough they could be used to torch this sub? Or to go after anyone who dares to say "feminism bad" online?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/25 06:55 AM
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It'd be too uncomfortable to acknowledge the true face of the problem and that they're part of it by the very way they approach their career. Frankly, I don't think many people could face that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/25 05:15 PM
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I think the better question would be "are men allowed to go to therapy (and have feelings, foibles, hobbies etc) only if they've reached high status?" Because it really doesn't do anything for me to hear how it's not taboo to have anxiety and feel sorry for oneself and go to therapy from a very rich, very accomplished man who looks like he was dropped out of the Illiad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/25 05:07 PM
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I basically used it as background noise and it lost any real chance to raise above that the moment it veered into a dating how-to guide. I likely wouldn't have clicked at all for that, I just wanted a good old round of skewering the world's sexiest (according to himself) potato and his feminist "enemies".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/25 11:18 AM
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Due to the completely bullshit, but prevalent, idea that all (or almost all) double standards are to women's disadvantage
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/25 11:09 AM
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Indeed. I'm tempted to ask, only 90% facetiously, if male stripper really is a safer gig than low-level street gangster
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 05:26 PM
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The luckier ones won't, at any rate. Those types do tend to collect unofficial harems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 05:23 PM
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There's always that, too; but I don't think the fear of fragging still holds that much sway over the US military hierarchy - they're all too young at this point, and older parasites at the top like Captain Bone Spurs aren't always going to have any kind of personal experience with it, either. I'm more concerned with the example of Russia, really. People there are more disenfranchised than in any country that has any claim to being in 'the West', and their invasion of Ukraine has been a disaster …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/25 10:46 PM
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Thing is, you'd need to mobilize a large % of all the targeted men in a country. The No Kings protests against trump's regime are pulling in absolutely ridiculous numbers - you'd need considerably more than that by % in just young men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/25 09:06 PM
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If someone made a false rape allegation against me, was found guilty of it before a court of law, and picked up only three months, my head would explode
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/25 03:27 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, egalitarianism and feminism preclude each other, because the latter is a supremacist movement family.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/25 03:22 PM
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It's as if these people want to lose to the far right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/25 03:21 PM
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My social isolation serves me well. Can't get falsely accused by people - or bots - who don't know I exist
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/25 09:57 PM
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At this point I'm basically a hikkikomori who has to go out into the world sometimes because I can't afford the lifestyle. I don't know if it's something in the culture here, or the water, or if I'm just a magnet for the kind of people who randomly spout out the most retrograde, fascistic, anti-human bullshit imaginable and then look at me like I'm supposed to agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/25 10:40 PM
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That is an impeccable handle
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 05:48 PM
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Today's feminists are such wimps, they can't even get political lesbianism right 🤣
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 04:32 AM
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Well, if they want the maximum amount of non-predatory men to disengage as much as possible, they're going about it the right way. Once I'm dead, what is it to me that the Trumps, Putins, Musks and Tates of the world will be the fathers of the next generations?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 07:28 PM
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The left treats its own men worse than it treats conservative men. If you allow for the latter being hostile, often violently so, towards the left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 07:15 PM
20

Ana is the gift that keeps on giving 🤣 🤪 how did cranking the shame up to 11 work out for feminists, anyway? Are they enjoying the far right surge in more or less every democratic or quasi-democratic country in the world (which I know has many other causes, including that it was engineered and prepped for for decades by the billionaires who are also bankrolling it)? Some are, more or less in secret; but I don't think Ana is one of them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 10:25 PM
3

I wouldn't call anyone who says "demonstrating his fitness as a provider is vital for any man" in earnest any kind of progressive. As far as I'm concerned, such a problem as the male loneliness exacerbation is never going to come down to 1 or 2 causes, but if I had to cite one thing that's at or near the heart of it all, it's that the owner and exploiter classes have had access to modern technology for generations now, and we're all feeling the weight of that heightened extractive power. The wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 10:10 PM
6

Sometimes on the right they pretend to say "work harder for yourself" but it's more like "work harder to make others' lives worse as well as your own"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 10:40 PM
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I like to dunk on science deniers as much as the next guy but if this is what passes for "science" nowadays I can at least understand the confusion... Also dig the vibe of "we conducted a thorough investigation on our own institution and found no wrongdoing"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 07:12 PM
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It's amazing how many ways people from all political persuasions find to tell men to work harder and enjoy life less
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 07:02 PM
2

I would. If you're going to claim the label "feminist", know what it means first, and own it all. That's not what I did when I was younger and stupider and briefly called myself a feminist, live and learn.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/25 07:08 AM
1

As far as I'm concerned, almost always yes. The only exception I have off the top of my head is if someone who is not a woman murders someone who is, and explicitly claims the victim's womanhood as a reason for killing her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/25 07:06 AM
1

She has sounding serious while being completely unserious down pat
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/25 10:48 PM
4

With all respect, gender segregation is bullshit in a similar way to how segregation by age, social class, "race" or even occupation is bullshit. Last thing we need is to turn slightly different people into the dangerous, unknown "Other" even more than we already are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/25 09:17 AM
1

And the Sun is hot. The point is, they're doing it, and this executive order by Newsom will not provide any incentive to do otherwise, or not much. As I read it, it's basically a complicated and expensive way of telling the men it will target that they shouldn't, no matter what they feel.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/25 07:05 AM
2

Well, this is just more of the usual garbage. Emphasis on men doing more for others, including an outright directive for state orgs to get them to volunteer more. And of course on getting men to stop killing themselves, because unlike MAGA, these corporate ghouls are capable of recognizing that dead workers are useless workers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/25 10:33 AM
8

It's just one more thing to make me not want to throw my hat into the wood-chipper. I need that to keep the sun off my balding noggin.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 01:26 PM
1

There's nothing special about my masculinity. I was socialized into it, because of my male body; and I casually went along with this part of my socialization, because of my male body - and that I didn't come up with any reasons to defy it, more broadly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/25 07:45 AM
3

I'm aware of some of these cultural differences, but the fact that pro-trans activism is so thoroughly captivated by feminism is a travesty, and a tragedy. I've stumbled across a few trans men on social media and all the trans-misandry they're catching from "pro-trans" spaces has clearly done a severe number on some of them. As someone deeply alienated from the rest of humanity, their alienation is even worse than mine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/25 03:22 AM
11

Feminism is as egalitarian as I am a pigeon. It's supremacy for women (usually cis only), it's right there in the name.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 01:46 PM
1

Egalitarian values, actual education, and a severe, brutal crackdown on the corporations, religions and nationalist and fascist actors that spread division and strife for their own ends.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 08:21 PM
2

Train it on a bunch of feminists and it will. AI will regurgitate what it's given, but as thin slop. That's all it does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 03:21 AM
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This guy's ideas are so destructive, I wouldn't be shocked if he's a Russian agent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/25 03:50 AM
2

I have never seen anything on social media, or TV before it, that offered any meaningful help to the men and boys who most need it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/25 10:31 AM
3

So... how are you a feminist? Why do you take that label? It was pure ignorance for me, when I still did. If you want equality (gender or otherwise) and for people to be less shit to each other, well, so does most everyone else here and at least some of us including myself would describe ourselves as antifeminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/25 10:02 AM
1

Historically, popular opposition against oligarchy (and aristocracy before that) has relied on massive numbers to counter the elites' advantages, and usually lost. Sometimes explicitly because they gathered people in numbers with little to no cohesion between themselves. There have been some exceptions, concentrated in more recent history, but the ruling classes have adapted well, and for the most part closed off any exploitable weaknesses. I don't see much hope that way. Humanity needs to learn…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/25 02:32 AM
1

"Immense pressure"? The handful of youtubers who have been as big as this guy, for as long as this guy, tend to have enough money to retire several times over. The only things that can "pressure" them to do anything at this point are their own greed or ego, or pissing away all their money on scams and overpriced luxury lifestyles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/25 02:17 AM
3

Hell, before outright demonization of men became normalized, women and children first was the misandrist narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 03:09 PM
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Would be neat to see how anti-conscription activism can overcome the obstacle of being viewed by society at large as "cowardly or lazy men who don't want to Do Their Part™" especially now that the geopolitical situation is destabilizing by the day. "How dare you not put your life on hold indefinitely and on the line, and subject yourself to military discipline, to protect the women and children from the Russians?" That sort of thing. In Romania, where I live, I was the first (second?) cohort of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/25 06:21 PM
1

Hate to say it, but what's worked for me is being overweight, poor, reclusive, awkward, and a non-drinker. But women can get booze glasses too, if I ever went to bars I might have problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/25 07:56 PM
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To Q1, no. Human sexuality was always an awkward mess, and it's especially that nowadays. By the time I've established enough common ground with a woman that I know how to approach her with 100% safety, we'd have been close for years. Any unspoken attraction on either side would have withered away, poisoned the relationship, or both, several times over.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/25 12:27 PM
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At least somewhat, if I remember correctly. But it's also correct that "women and children first" was a lot stronger in 1912 than now. A movie about Titanic that didn't include it would be like "12 years a slave" without anyone ever saying the n-word.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/25 12:21 PM
1

You can, but it's not easy, and it is less likely to teach you humility or compassion, rather the reverse. Patience is more plausible but far from "very much likely". I am not prescribing anything about attractiveness, and it's "in a position to". As for rejecting broader definitions of success - that just means you're part of the problem. Which was fairly obvious when you started talking about money and confidence (fitness is comfortably the most wholesome of the three). And if you're going to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/25 01:21 AM
1

'Someone like andrew tate' and 'bad thing' kind of go togehter, don't they? What I think is that men - anyone, really - really need to look for a far broader definition of success than "fit, rich and confident" because if you focus too much on those three you turn into an angry, entitled douchebag. I'm angry enough from just having to unpack something so obvious. What else could I have meant, that makes a lick of sense?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 06:52 PM
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Easy: nothing. My message contained only what it said explicitly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 06:42 PM
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Do you know what happens to men who focus on their income, fitness and confidence? If they're very successful, they become someone like Andrew Tate. If they're less than very successful, so much the worse for them and so much the better for (almost) everyone else.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 06:18 PM
3

Not sure I ever interacted with any materials by the Gottmans or the other names you cited in the replies, but I have listened to a lot of psychologists and others opining on men's modern problems... invariably in an entirely useless, tone-deaf manner. Debra Soh comes to mind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 06:14 PM
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Never mind fights, pretty sure a man can get a few months in prison for pulling such a stunt
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 05:03 PM
3

I struggle to take any feminist seriously when she calls men like me the problem and has fuck-all to say, much less do, about people like Boko Haram, a group estimated at about 20,000 at the most. Depending how one counts, feminism might be a billion-plus-person movement family. One wonders why they don't use those numbers to crush this, or any other similar, relatively tiny movement that is known to rape, murder and ruin the lives of girls in numbers, but they have the time and energy for outsp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/25 05:39 PM
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Some idiots, you mean? I have zero respect for the opinion of anyone who accuses me of misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/25 05:23 AM
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I explained this in another reply. Now, as for "natural" - I meant "a natural consequence of what's happening". Something like road rage isn't "natural" in the sense that it's going to be completely absent from a hypothetical (and highly impractical) purist paleo lifestyle, it's not, as far as I know, something any other animals experience; but it's a natural consequence of taking a human and having it commute in modern urban car-based traffic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/25 03:48 AM
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Not that I expect FlamePixel to try, but my understanding is those comments get deleted and their posters banned, on feminst subs
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/25 03:44 AM
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If turning gay is apparently an option, why not ace as well? Back to the real world, I would've gone full asexual 25 years ago if I could, but I'm actually not ace.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/25 03:28 AM
2

I definitely think any societal policy aimed at getting more women to spread their legs more is altogether immoral and coercive. That social mingling policy sounds downright totalitarian; even with the most carrot-and-no-stick approach possible, it's still effectively paying people to hang out, which penalizes those who either don't want to or can't for whatever reason. This is exactly like a customer service job. Hard pass. I also don't think even cracking down hard on rape of women by men spec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/25 03:12 AM
3

Not to will sexual desire away - I know that doesn't work, I've bloody well tried, in my ignorant youth. And if discipline and mindfulness is what works for you, lead with that; I've grown to rely on being suspicious and lazy. It takes less energy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/25 04:47 PM
2

True, true. Add to that, the waste of time and resources that could be used to, you know, save lives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/25 11:57 AM
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Oh, by all means don't shut up about it. I never intended my answer to point that way, and I'm at fault if it did. As for defeatism - maybe? It's treated like a dirty word, but it has its place, and obesity is at least as good an example as sexual frustration. At some point, the juice is not worth the squeeze; and who is to decide where that point is? For the most part, each individual has to decide. Now, as for "natural" - I meant "a natural consequence of what's happening". Something like road…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/25 10:36 AM
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The possibility of social consequences is bad enough, but there are other reasons to steer clear of this subject. For me, one of them is that, at least with the means of the present and foreseeable future, sexual loneliness and lack of fulfillment in men is 100% intractable. Human sexual selection is driven primarily by competition among men and by women being picky. The opposites to these exist, but to a much lesser degree, and serve only to keep the system from throwing itself off the rails, s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/25 09:42 AM
6

Sufragettes in the 1950s and 60s? Huh?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/25 03:16 AM
35

I was taught very thoroughly that my true feelings are socially unacceptable. If I struggle to talk about them it's through lack of practice and being too used to sanding off the edges.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/25 07:48 AM
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No mistake about it; feminist thought leaders don't want to do away with oligarchy, they want to be the oligarchs. The only ones, eventually.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/25 06:59 AM
5

There's an anecdote that Stalin once said "loyalty is a disease suffered by dogs". No idea if he ever did, but the vibe was there, and it's here with feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/25 12:59 PM
2

I'm picking my battles, is what I'm doing. This is one I don't see going anywhere, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong. I don't have the power to mess with an aspect of human behaviour that's ingrained a lot deeper than "women are wired to be homemakers and can't lead" ever was, and might well be older than the human genus. I don't have the power to decide for other people, by what standards they'll judge me. I do have, to an extent, the power to reduce my engagement, or withdraw it altogether, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 05:42 PM
16

No personal experience, but the work colleagues I have most to do with, and my boss and her boss, are women, and except for the latter who I have little enough to do with, the way they talk about men is making me really rue not being ace or gay... Edit: It's even worse on online spaces I frequent (except this one, for obvious reasons). The abuse and control of women by men has cratered in my parents' lifetimes (in about half of the world at least), but the misandry remains.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 03:18 PM
4

I would never vote for the far right, or condone it; but I've also never seen any progressive movement or individual person who, given even a little time, hasn't said or done something that's tantamount to spitting in my face. A lot of dudes will take that as reason enough to vote fascist, who knew?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 03:32 AM
1

Sexual selection by women is the closest reality comes to "cosmic" justice or validation for men, because it's the least wretched (it doesn't really deserve "best") vector of sexual selection for the human species. And given what that means for our instincts, a majority of people are going to use it as a yardstick to judge men regardless of the actual merit of a given woman's judgement. Apart from refusing to play the game (accepting the consequences of increased social isolation and being a gen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 03:25 AM
1

"Nice try 😑"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 02:05 AM
4

Doesn't sound like a friend to me, tbh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/25 02:57 AM
5

Especially feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/25 02:53 AM
10

"Strict gender roles for thee but not for me". Feminism. Straight brain rot. They're no better than tradcons, are they?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/25 01:33 PM
13

If the president of France (commander in chief over a nuclear arsenal) can still get slapped around by his wife and have no recourse, why is anybody getting married? Love doesn't need a ring, much less a contract. If it does, it's not love. Run.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/25 01:16 PM
3

Richard Vaughan Reeves, the professor? Regardless, that is a hilariously out-of-touch statement to make in this day and age. It would help a lot to explain it, if it came from someone who's enjoyed a one-in-a-thousand level of professional success.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 05:34 PM
9

I struggle to care what some tiktokers, with their brains fried by the very platform they're posting content on, have to say about how men should behave. Nobody is forcing me to ask women out on dates, let alone to try to start a family; but for my personal amusement, they're welcome to try.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 01:11 PM
19

Feminist rhetoric callously invokes egalitarianism, selectively, when it's useful. That is all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/25 08:59 AM
4

Sorry for the previous response (I put it in the thread it was meant for and deleted it from here). On topic, for me gender abolition is a very long-term aspirational goal that's similar to the ongoing process of abolishing "races" based on skin colour. The objective is for it to not matter at all except in the few rare contexts it factors into - this almost totally irrelevant for skin colour, IIRC the few exceptions deal with things like sunlight and temperature and are easy to manage even ther…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/25 06:50 AM
5

To keep what could be a very long story short, I'm against feminism because it's a family of supremacist movements, all no less pernicious for representing (or pretending to, as the case may be) a historically discriminated-against group. It would've been hard to contrive of a worse way than feminism to combat the oppression of women, which tracks with its beginnings as an exclusionary political movement by and for bourgeois white women. And to this day, most feminist movements retain those Euro…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/25 06:44 AM
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Misogyny says nothing about men themselves. All your examples here are of misandry. It's true that some women exhibit and/ or reinforce misogyny but that's a separate matter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/25 11:44 AM
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woman being misogynistic to men This is far from automatically wrong but somehow I don't think it's what you meant to write, either
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/25 08:56 AM
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No, not as such; it's just that of the most privileged strata in society, women and girls conforming to the elites-issued beauty standard(s) are easily the most numerous. But they're by no means at the top; if anything, they're the least privileged, and the most resented, of the privileged (and miss me with the kind of attention they tend to attract!). But their sheer numbers can make that hard to appreciate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 06:36 PM
1

I don't give a tinker's damn that feminists outnumber LWMA maybe 100:1. Conservatives outnumber feminists greatly, across the whole world; should we align with them because they're the majority, comfortably? No. Pragmatism can and will only take you so far, and caring about being in line with the majority of anything is nothing I wish upon anybody. I'm not going to willingly eat shit because 100 billion flies are doing it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 06:25 PM
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I don't remember the context, but I vaguely remember listening to both Contrapoints and Kidology in the past and tuning them out because they veered into misandry of one sort of another. Tara Mooknee I don't know at all. Edit: I did actually listen to a couple of her essays and must've tuned her out. She appears to be a very feminist creator.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 06:13 PM
1

I'm more interested in finding out if the US is still going to have more impactful elections than Russia and Hungary, going forward.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 07:12 PM
2

Once intellectual curiosity is satisfied, which does not take long, any transphobic "arguments" are boring at best, and always wretched. They're also a distraction, from those (metaphorical) fangs the transphobes have, and don't need. I wish I had the guts and the wherewithal to do something about them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 07:07 PM
1

I can't speak to how widespread or rare this is, but if it happens even once that a 10 year old boy misbehaves to this degree and cites Andrew Tate as his inspiration, it's frankly natural that people's heads will hit the roof, and it might even make the news. Edit: This is, of course, not in any way to defend the equally predictable overreaction and hand-wringing by a bunch of supposedly well-meaning ghouls I would gladly dump in the same pit I'd drop the Tate brothers in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 03:09 PM
2

By coincidence, I just came from an old bookmark I had for the Wikipedia article on odium theologicum. It might well be something like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 03:04 PM
2

They're good for dunking on right-wing lunatics and not much else.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 03:20 AM
-1

Not really? What I see is a strong reaction against the small groups of (mostly) straight white men at the very top, who are making things worse for everyone. And because people are stupid (enough to allow those ticks to run us all, seriously, in almost ever society ever it's been the most aggressive and greedy men who keep rising to power and leadership, we have basically zero social defences against this), people who look like the said ticks (straight white men) are catching some of the flak. …
/r/MenSupportMen04/02/25 05:47 AM
1

Different how? Ok I'm kidding but mainstream and radical feminism are right-wing, supremacist patterns of thought masquerading as left-wing and progressive, and they've been far more successful at that masquerade, far longer than they had any busines being.
/r/MenSupportMen27/01/25 08:31 AM
1

I'm pretty far removed from the USA, and I don't mind a good old rousing round of rubbishing the orange man, so it's easier for me. The stupid bastard and the worldwide instability and economic downturn that will come with him are going to kick my wallet in the nuts, but that's probably going to be the worst of it, out here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/24 05:51 AM
1

I've never asked a woman out on a date, and I doubt I ever will. This is an important part of why. That aside, I'm pretty reclusive and don't expect people in general to respond positively to me, so it doesn't really come up that much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/24 05:25 AM
1

This Aaron Renn fellow shows the kind of soft touch in his article that will only teach feminists that what some of them understand as the "few good ones" among men are all toothless and therefore as easily dismissed as the most rabid and obvious misogynist. If he's representing Ruth Whippman correctly, she's a traitor to her own sons, and I'm writing the word "traitor" with my full chest and all its meaning and implications intended. As the son of a loving if flawed mother I struggle to imagine…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/24 05:20 AM
1

This is hardly particular to Reddit. All discussion about politics and other broader human issues, online and offline, is almost entirely taken up by two reprehensible extremes: misandry and fascism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/24 04:58 AM
1

Me too, but we're not in power so we're not to blame. Simple as, for me at least.
/r/MenSupportMen25/09/24 08:37 PM
1

There's always u/leftwingmaleadvocates (if I spelled it right). Despite the name, it's only center-left in my experience.
/r/MenSupportMen25/09/24 12:00 PM
3

About the same at 37. I don't know if it's something in the chemistry or getting bullied in formative years, or fed only wrong opportunities or none at all. Only real solution to any part of this is don't blame yourself, and stop if you do. You're not a supervillain who can force his destiny of choice in the teeth of a world hostile to it, and neither am I. I've gotten a lot more peace of mind since I cut down on the self-blame, and before I did, it never pushed me into "improving myself" so don…
/r/MenSupportMen25/09/24 11:53 AM
1

I'm kind of new here apart from some sporadic learning, but this is the men support men subreddit, or did I misread?
/r/MenSupportMen25/09/24 11:47 AM
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N/A Being too old to turn things around isn't just about getting old(er), it's about getting old as someone who feels helpless, alone and defeated. Your stepmum and the immigrant pharmacist sound like dynamic people to whom striving, even against long odds, comes naturally. Examples like that do absolutely nothing for people like OP and people like me.
/r/MenSupportMen25/09/24 11:45 AM
1

I'll refrain from yelling at right-wing extremists, especially IRL. Being a socialist doesn't mean I have to run dick first into every battle I'll probably lose.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/24 05:26 PM
1

Everyone here is already paying through their noses for other people's bad behaviour; anyone who wants more of that from me is cordially invited to fuck off.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/24 06:28 PM
2

I only know about your feminist girlfriend from your post and I'm tired of her already. If breaking up with her is not out of the cards, and you trust yourself with the loneliness if you don't find anyone else, and you can reasonably proof yourself against her ruining your life (career, relationships with other people, siccing the authorities on you), my take is to just do that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/24 06:21 PM
-1

Nah it's a response to multiple generations of men not being culled by large-scale warfare. Edit: I can't believe how bad faith people are even here. Did I say I'm actually suggesting going back to the horror of large-scale warfare everywhere?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 02:33 PM
5

There's definitely a huge double standard, it's not your imagination, and it's not going away. I'd always expect to be measured against the yardsticks of traditional masculinity, constantly, if I got into a romantic relationship with a woman, especially a feminist. And if I somehow found one who has more brains and heart than that, I'd print her a black shirt with "Exception that proves the rule" in bold, neon green letters. Edit: Most women are much easier to get along with if you explicitly ta…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/24 07:04 PM
8

Patriarchy is a real thing (technically, it's several closely related real things) but the patriarchy feminists are talking about is not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/24 06:58 PM
2

Well I wasn't planning on having kids but holy fuck am I doubling down on that now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/24 06:53 PM
22

I'm fine with this, though not likely to ever use it; and I'd still want to grind all the pimps and human traffickers, of all genders, to proverbial bone meal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/24 11:34 PM
6

In extremis, they'll conscript us, or at least try to. It's definitely a solution that'll occur to them way before yielding any important concessions to the "rabble". Does anyone here think American and European elites care about men from their lower classes one jot more than Putin cares about the Russians he's sent to die in Ukraine in their hundreds of thousands?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/24 10:12 PM
15

Damn, they even stole his money. It disappeared down the gullet of some no-name university
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/24 10:07 PM
4

I don't believe in using feminist anything for male advocacy. Feminism = feminine supremacy, it's right there in the name.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/24 12:12 PM
23

Don't think your current GF is going to get any better. She sounds like she's building up resentment while trying and failing to do better by you, and it's only a matter of time before it blows up in your face. And even now as you write this, she's financially and verbally abusing you. This woman is hollowing you out, to where you're feeling sick and tired above and beyond your previous usual. I strongly recommend you bow out of the relationship and spend a few years living alone (if you can pay…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/24 07:15 AM
15

Ik, that's part of the other 85-90%
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/24 02:18 PM
90

People like this are at least 10% of the reason why the likes of Trump, Orban and Giorgia Meloni are/ were in power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/24 01:37 PM
10

If people or institutions spurn you, it's your right to spurn them back. This needs to be drilled into boys' skulls especially.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/24 06:01 AM
8

Moses bin Maimon (Maimonides) was praising male genital mutilation specifically for its property of deadening the male's enjoyment of sex eight fucking centuries ago. It's indeed just another part of organized religion's lunatic war on the enjoyment of life. Anyone defending it now has zero excuse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/24 06:05 AM
19

More like higher-ups are starting to get genuinely frustrated at losing their slaves to competitors, such as the criminal element
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 10:37 PM
5

I did not know this history; but I'm not at all surprised. I'll absolutely have to remember this. And frankly, if feminists still believe every man is a potential RAPIST in all caps (and as far as I can tell, they do), excuse me while I reinforce my own belief that every feminist is an enemy and a potential threat to my life and livelihood.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 10:16 PM
6

Helicopter parenting is bad. Yes Making your children's first sexual experience purely transactional is even worse. Disagree: it is bad, but just one experience; whereas "helicopter parenting" implies a behaviour pattern across one or more decades. You don't have to be red pill or tradcon to know that. Yes, I'm living proof of this. But those mfers are loud, and apparently quite motivated to dominate the conversation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 07:54 AM
27

Pretty sure offline prostitutes have been offering GFE longer than online ones
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 02:00 AM
22

It's definitely interesting to see a sex worker take such a... patient view of her virginal customers, even if she is obviously only doing it for publicity and/ or virtue signalling. It’s so fantastic to see these gentlemen grow in confidence and see the transformation I'd prefer if it were appropriate to be less of a prick but this is really over-egging the pudding; pipe down, Ms Little The comment section on the article, however, is a horror show of negativity. Edit: And the one here too; we'r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 01:51 AM
36

So, 40% of men in the UK, or at least among the participants, have suffered either rape or attempted rape by a woman, and dared to admit to it in a survey. There's your rape culture, feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 01:16 AM
6

This is basically reason #2 why I'm politically homeless, and all but friendless. It's such a prevalent attitude, and for the life of me I can't hold any trust in or closeness to anyone who holds it, with one exception maybe, and that's grandfathered in so it's not repeatable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/24 11:31 AM
2

Status: Awaiting Parliament's position in 1st reading? Lawl. Count on the libs to be too lazy to even oppress properly...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/24 10:55 AM
1

I'll probably have better legal rights if I retire in an Islamic country as a non-Muslim (as long as I stop mocking Islam, at any rate)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/24 10:50 AM
4

Fixable, maybe; but it's not on that guy to fix it if he doesn't want to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 02:39 PM
2

I wish everyone not on my shitlist to live at least long enough to see me willingly take responsibility for other people's misdeeds 🤭
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 01:59 PM
6

Idk man, most women I've met, online or off, seem to think men are shit. Some of them will even say it out loud in my hearing, and without bothering with any disclaimers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/24 01:42 PM
87

'Nice' of them to put up the Tater Tot as the face of believers in feminism being harmful. It's almost as if they want more hostility
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/24 10:31 AM
1

Meanwhile I'm walking into and out of stores with a huge black gym bag on my shoulder that I could about fit a small adult in. These policies are usually applied selectively, if at all; and it's not as if they're targeting suspicious people unless racism is involved: I look like a hobo whose closest thing to a job is shoplifting, but I'm a white man who obviously has no problem going into a store. I'm sorry for all the soulless pencilnecks who can't get through life without bullying others in th…
/r/MenSupportMen30/01/24 11:15 AM
1

Fair, but the real problem is the powers that be are getting really good at instilling learned helplessness; and we just don't have ways to cure/ get rid of/ escape it, to where we can get constructively angry and activate like you're describing. Not 'ways as advanced as theirs', as far as I know there's no known way at all except to will yourself out, and if you can do that, you were only in the shallows anyway.
/r/MenSupportMen30/01/24 11:10 AM
-6

Well, "conservatives speaking up for male issues" is a contradiction in terms. What they do is use male issues to grift, be it for money, influence, followers, or power (other). There are no exceptions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/24 08:38 AM
3

Man this seems too on point to count as venting 😅 except that civilization cycles aren't really a thing; the facts never line up anything like neatly enough. That aside, a silver lining to all of this is that I find it liberating. Once I realized that the expectations and pressures put on men like me (and you, from what I'm reading) are bullshit, I no longer felt down on myself for failing to meet the former and deliberately avoiding the latter. When I can, of course. As an aside, people talk up…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 07:24 PM
1

Well, it's all one to me[edit: as long as I and my loved ones don't end up on the wrong end of unearned hatred and chaos]; but (this is a big part of why) I'm not who you might want to be worried about
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 09:09 AM
3

Don't know how right this Dave Taylor was on the facts and how they've evolved (but I can guess that second one). But the barely masked glee with which he's contemplating these young men's downstream consequences is wild, for 2016 at least.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/24 06:17 PM
4

men choosing to avoid interacting with women if they don't have to is somehow sexual harassment. Didn't anybody speak up at this? 😬
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/24 06:11 PM
6

I don't think ENM is any better than traditional polygyny in terms of destabilizing the male lower classes. It's a lot better for the women involved, at least in theory; but that's not going to comfort me when 20 brutalized men bust down my door and torture and rape me to death despite my also being an old-virgin male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/24 05:56 PM
9

What I need is the skills and dough to live well when I'm inevitably (barring my early death) going to be stuck by myself. And the skills at least are plastered all over the Internet.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 01:40 PM
11

You know it. I sold him the time machine back in 2168
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 05:12 PM
34

All people's unjustified fear of me really does to me is make me despise them. I'm definitely not going to take their word over my knowledge of myself, incomplete and insufficiently examined as that may be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 11:19 AM
1

I'm going to protect all the women and children from my male "aggression" by not seeking them out while actual male aggressors do seek them out. Nobody deserves SA but that doesn't mean I have to do a Spider-man for people who hate and fear me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 07:33 AM
2

You're better off not dating that kind of ijit
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 07:30 AM
8

This immediately reminded me of the Fremen asking Kynes how soon could they make Arrakis into a paradise, and his answer of 300-500 years. I don't think bringing misandry even as low as misogyny is in the "West" right now needs to take that long, but unless the eggheads put a massive dent in ageing, I don't see it happening in any of our lifetimes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/24 07:41 PM
49

And the same media who pull this shit also love to make the surprised Pikachu face when more and more men stop engaging with society and refuse to open up to anyone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/24 10:32 AM
42

Frankly, I'm leaning toward no, the majority of society's opinion leaders don't actually care about lonely, isolated men as such; they're just bullies picking on the current fad targets. As far as I can tell, right now the main three are marginalized men, trans people, and the homeless. God, Baldr and Ganesh help you if you're all three.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/24 08:02 PM
7

Tradcons do that to some extent as well, from the other side and with as much sincerity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/24 06:24 AM
9

No. Let's just treat women like fellow human beings and eat the rich. Heh, just kidding I'm not really kidding, the rich are too disgusting to eat but their fangs have to go
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/24 09:07 PM
6

I can't believe I just saw and heard Destiny and an internet-famous OF veteran fail to mop the floor with a freaking PUA and - I haven't found anything on NotSoErudite but she's not promising going by this debate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/24 09:02 PM
19

Don't see why feminism would even tackle myths like that seriously, they're just ammo to use against men. It's a supremacist movement; it's going to lean toward slavery and destruction of the out-group; in this case, men (and oftentimes transgender people, and... I honestly don't know where these maniacs are on intersex people). Mostly slavery, since destroying so many people outright isn't practical, especially when you need them for all the scut work. And probably under some anodyne-sounding l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/24 02:21 PM
11

Just hearing people in my life or content creators I otherwise respect parrot their nonsense depresses me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/24 02:06 PM
1

Good troll
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/24 10:06 PM
3

No, this is definitely a common meaning it's used with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/24 10:03 PM
2

The fact that feminism is what got the ball rolling on women's rights is a tragedy, than which only not getting that ball rolling at all would've been worse. It's only "good" for women's rights in the sense that we as a species haven't really explored any less toxic alternatives to getting our heads out of our own arses about gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/24 09:55 PM
19

Two sides, one coin. And it's not made of anything you'd ever want in your pocket
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/24 04:08 PM
77

"Not like a bunny/ woman could go savage" I mean, Judy got better, somewhat, if I remember my Zootopia; but if I hear the RL version of the line, I'm not holding my breath
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/24 04:03 PM
2

I'm pretty sure human beings don't live long enough yet
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/24 10:29 AM
2

Hey, I have hope! For instance, I hope I'm wrong about this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/24 10:25 AM
1

Bit late to the party, but don't get your hopes up. I sure won't until there are laws on the books that explicitly protect men after their sperm cells have left the building. Edit: And/ or explicit protection against/ prohibition of making men legally responsible for children who aren't theirs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/24 08:27 PM
3

And they'll barely have to lift a finger to provide for their enlarged family. Presumably they'll be granted a big farm by the Fascist Godmofather with the women and children (and/ or slaves) doing all the work?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/24 07:23 PM
2

I saw. Yikes. And at the risk of showing my own arse somewhat, Google Translate is surprisingly... coherent with short to medium paragraphs in Polish. It's clearly imperfect even under the eyes of my non-Polish-speaking self, but also yikes. 😬
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/24 06:30 PM
7

You mean Breadfruit? They commented something in that sub but I don't know Polish. The thread's actual OP is the Appropriate-use person.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/24 06:25 PM
15

💯%, except for the year 🤭
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/24 06:21 PM
13

Feminists and other "women and children first" singers are the last people I want having any say in defining my duties, along with (other) fascists and conservatives. Edit: And any group that wants me to put my life on the line for them had better win me over first.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/24 06:18 PM
5

I think - and hope, and hope to embody, though I am an old-Millenial not Gen Z or Alpha - that if this new frugality really takes off, it will be mostly a frugality of saving up for gaps in employment, and/ or retirement. Edit: Yes, I understand that this clashes with the hike in cost of living; but as long as we're being optimistic, even that hydra is vincible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/24 08:45 AM
7

That tracks. Not to yuck anyone's faith, but basically all (us mortals' ideas of) the gods are distilled representations of authority figures: lords, parents, teachers, champion warriors, master smiths...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/24 08:42 AM
13

This will end on men not wanting to sacrifice anymore for a society that despises us and will affect society, as we seen already in Japan, men will just stop caring, start going 100 on hobbies and only devoting to it, giving a hit on the economy as there wont be enough money for retirement, lower born rates and lower turnover for work. I'm already there, being nowhere close to Japan or the US - though I am making some pitiful attempts to save for retirement. Retirement by myself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/24 12:20 AM
5

Doubly curious to see this in content from (or heavily inspired by) Japan, which is... not doing well with the whole young people and intimate relationships thing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/24 12:18 AM
15

Apart from what's been mentioned, it's also cowardice combined with cruelty. Nobody of consequence is going to push back when you dunk on incels, right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/24 08:53 PM
6

Well, for me it's a bit hard to care. All the models of LTR I have any realistic chance of even trying for, from modern to traditional to the downright ancient, are unacceptable, each in their own 'fun' little ways. Edit: It's just that in the new models, the man is usually going to be the more dead-eyed in a straight couple; and even this wasn't all that rare before.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/24 08:49 PM
0

I could be wrong, but aren't both these couples at least strongly implied to be sexually active? That said, homophobia is still a big ugly problem in the year of our spaghetti monster 2024, and as far as I know it's a much bigger problem for gay and bisexual men than gay and bisexual women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/24 11:39 AM
9

As long as even the people actually commenting on this don't manage to even help themselves from adding things like the last question, there's not going to be any progress.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/24 10:56 AM
11

Don't have the OP, but I have reddit set to show me newest first which is, I believe, atypical; and the responses run the gamut, but I don't think misogyny is in the majority. It's definitely there, won't deny that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/24 10:42 AM
1

While this does seem like the kind of wisdom and excellent way with words one would expect of a professor of poetry, he's still presupposing the hypothetical man his heart goes out to is hard-working. Doesn't sound so ahead of the curve to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/24 10:37 AM
3

Well, if you count any and all research that isn't explicitly tagged as "female" or "for women" as being for men only, it bloody well is. I'll bet good money that's how anyone taking this line and running with it is counting, if they do so at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/24 05:39 PM
38

Everything is problematic when it's done by people we don't like /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 01:44 PM
1

"It wasn't mandatory, someone else made that decision without consulting you" What drugs is she taking? I need to, uh, investigate where they're coming from.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 06:55 AM
1

Feeling the call of the instinct solely responsible for our species existing at all, along with however many hundreds of millions of years' worth of our ancestors before that? Sounds positively Satanic to me 😜
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 12:02 AM
1

Incidentally, isn't Italy one of the countries with the oldest populations and lowest birthrtes in the world, comparable to Japan?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 11:44 PM
2

It's all bullshit, brother; don't let these bastards poison you against yourself (any further). You're not at fault for wanting to have sex with hot women. Sex is (or was) a normal human activity and there's absolutely nothing wrong or culpable in wanting to engage in it. The only real problem with this is when, as most men experience, you end up wanting a lot more sex than you're getting; but that's negligible next to the pain you're in. Even checking out women cursorily isn't really a problem,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 05:59 PM
2

Men should absolutely never show vulnerability to feminists, that's just asking for it at this point
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 05:31 PM
2

My read on it is that women there are less liberated as well, but either the gap is wider, or the pressure from above just crushes the life out of people, young men especially. And too often it's literal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 05:29 PM
1

Well, at least we get to live free of war on their watch oh wait
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 10:42 AM
4

This is ridiculous on its face. All the research I ever heard of points very firmly in the opposite direction. As I read the questions asked, there are immediate red flags about the bias in the questions, and the obvious ways they could be interpreted maliciously to arrive at this... finding. And what's with all the weasel words? If they pinned down what they mean by "moderate" or "intense" bias against women, the article doesn't say - when that's something they should definitely be bragging abo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 10:39 AM
8

I think most people, of all political stripes, have this double standard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 10:32 AM
1

Well, it didn't quite start that way but feminism is a conservative movement
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/23 11:45 AM
1

Holy shit, the UK is going to hell in every way! My best friend excluding family lives there ☹️
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/23 11:44 AM
8

Since we live in this 🤡🌍, you know what the funniest thing about this is? It pushes some men away from engaging with women - overwhelmingly non-toxic ones who just want to live a peaceful life and/ or do their thing. So women, especially the ones complaining the loudest, will have more by % to do with men who fit their misandrist nonsense, which thus feeds itself. I know it's wrong to feel schadenfreude, but I do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 08:10 AM
5

This is just a blip really, we're well past the point where for men who aren't highly successful and/ or actual predators, engaging with broader society is a mistake. Unless you know exactly what you're getting into and are willing to fight in the proverbial trenches for the rest of your life in a struggle that will definitely outlast you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 07:59 AM
25

Society is largely built by exploited workers, for their exploiters. I don't understand why this is difficult to some.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/23 05:28 PM
3

Bots can regurgitate philosophical questions now if they're 'trained' to. I'm not so optimistic about AI that will ask them for reasons similar to yours and mine
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/23 03:28 AM
1

Hey, I'd be glad to be wrong, all that stuff sounds cool and all, even though the best cutting-edge tech is going to be exclusive to the rich for a long time after it's first created.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 08:50 PM
3

If all the people at the cutting edge really put their heads together, and the tech bro billionaires really poured everything into R&D, including hiring ten times more people than they have now, rather than snorting cocaine off underage sex slaves in their yachts while squeezing for profits and dividends they'll never need, maybe? As things start now, that's a nope. I remember thinking the Singularity or something like it was really closing in 20+ years ago, as a kid. It's gotten, what, 2 years'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 08:27 PM
1

I'm pretty sure I have... once or twice... sometime ago. Like one of those things at the edge between reality and myth that you're positive you experienced IRL but it might just be your long-term memory being inexact.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 07:57 PM
10

I love the pushback against hustle culture. I never thought I'd be a marrying man but I want to marry it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 07:55 PM
2

Transhumanism has been mentioned, but once the tech gets there it'll be easier to just flood the 'market' with artificial AI or 'AI' girls who are close enough to the real thing. This can get very sketchy very quickly if the AIs become advanced enough to become self-aware and able to actually suffer, but that's a discussion for another century. This isn't going to happen in our lifetimes. But it will probably come before the level of transhumanism where a person can just turn a virtual knob to a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 07:50 PM
19

As for the final segment: no shot. Society as it is now, with late stage capitalism, with misandrist feminism, is absolutely not going to stop turning its back on young men who aren't highly, visibly successful and/ or rich. This isn't going away without surgery, so to speak.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 10:20 AM
12

Men are allowed to be openly sad? Since when? Is Dr K hitting that heavy element rich water?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 10:00 AM
2

Romania. It's pretty damn toxic and old-school here. Feminism has made some inroads especially in the cities and with younger generations, but it's far from as dominant in the west, and the most shameless men still feel pretty free to pull some serious nonsense, at least in blue collar jobs. Rich men are no more or less brazen than anywhere else, as far as I can tell. As the Tater-tot made infamous, law enforcement against sex offenders is... lax, to say the least. If they can slip beneath notic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/23 09:19 AM
41

This isn't a really good article, its conclusions are the still-standard feminist "do better" drivel.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/23 02:59 PM
23

Feminism is a supremacist movement. Such things may make use of egalitarianism when their in-group is down, but they're always going to turn on it. In Internet terms - peace was never an option.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 07:02 PM
2

Ngl if this lifting thing works out this time, even up to getting rid of the gut, I'm going to seriously consider a fatsuit. People treating me like I'm somehow better than my flabby self is not why I'm trying to lift.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 04:23 PM
9

You know what? It's a fair cop. I'm not afraid to be a feminist. I refuse on other grounds.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 04:20 PM
5

Wouldn't go as far as unavoidable, but I don't see how to convince people to stop voting for the bastards, where they're still allowed to vote. The actual left has never been big in politics, mostly it's just capitalist libs (some of whom larp shallowly as anti-capitalist leftists at least until it's time to talk about campaign funds) apart from the fascists where we still have anything like democracies; and libs are fascist food.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 03:48 PM
11

I'm pessimistic wrt politics. Despite tripping over themselves like the idiots they are, the right are gaining ground almost everywhere and I don't see it stopping. Wouldn't be surprised if fascism becomes the norm worldwide in 20y.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 03:01 PM
1

I'm not. These are my relatives, coworkers, and such. Also I'm not American, so Fox News and Republicans are distant references to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 02:59 PM
1

I struggle to see what utility you'd get out of a list of names you will never meet
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 03:12 PM
1

I don't have to believe a thing; conservatives themselves admitted that they fought for slavery. The most facile examples I can think of are the state constitutions of the CSA. As for the others, well, listen to just about any Conservative pundit, opinion leader, politician, whatever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 08:25 AM
1

I posted that before I read the article, in fairness; but my points still stand. How does Janice Fiamengo's reach compare to Liberty Vittert's, I wonder?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 07:00 AM
1

Genuineness and insight are inimical to conservatism because they require seeing past rigid rules and norms. The three value sets you note are at best given lip service by conservatives. In conservatism there are different rules for rich versus poor, men versus women, etc. LGBTQ+ people are lucky if they're allowed to exist. Conservatism fought or fights to preserve slavery, marital rape, conscription, obligatory religion... It's perfectly normal to be a leftist and have issues with other leftis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 06:41 AM
1

How big even is this Janice Fiamengo person? I've heard many sources grousing about men not chasing skirt as much as they did, but the overwhelming majority do it from some kind of feminist perspective and that automatically means they're not taking it seriously. Right now the rate of children per woman (including ALL childless women) throughout the world is 2.27. Until that number drops below 2 and stays there for a few generations, very few people who actually find large-scale success in this …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 06:35 AM
12

I think I saw this, or a similar video from the same person. She made some good points, for a feminist at least; but approaching the problem of the alt-right pipeline from a feminist perspective is like planting rice in the desert.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/23 01:05 PM
4

💯%. I "sort of" never started and this is a big part of why.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 02:52 PM
2

Orwell coined doublethink. Feminism did him one better (well, worse).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/23 07:17 PM
3

Ooh, I might steal this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/23 01:54 AM
1

No romantic partner, but my boss, my mother and my only friend are all women, and very good people overall. But I barely touch male issues around them and start getting what even my socially stunted self has recognized as the start of heavy pushback. And I know exactly where that leads. A month or so ago, my friendship with my boss got completely torpedoed by irreconcilable differences on other things; we don't engage in any non-work conversation anymore.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/23 07:41 PM
1

Ugh, is it 1984 already? What's next, the homeless Americans number will decrease from ~600,000 in 2022 to ~1M in 2024? All this anti-human nonsense under the guise of helping women needs to wither and die. Or the species will.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 03:04 PM
1

See, this is why I'm anti-feminist. Feminism is basically patriarchy but with men and women's places swapped. Don't many of them actually advocate for matriarchal society? I mean, I understand that stiff, radical resistance to the misogyny still rampant all around us is a must, but they're not doing themselves any favours with this rejection of any nuance. Edit: I've called feminism female supremacist the same way, say, the KKK is white supremacist; but it's not like the KKK would go to bat for …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 02:57 PM
1

I tend to lean towards life being significantly more horrible for women than men historically, but I'm not about to let anyone beat me over the head with what other people did, and I accept zero blame for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 07:41 AM
1

Can confirm, this attitude is pervasive. No matter what women say or do, men aren't allowed to fear them or even feel uncomfortable around them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 07:36 AM
1

My take on feminism is that it's a supremacist movement/ family of movements, and by that alone would qualify as right-wing. Of course, it's hardly that alone. Actual *ERFs are far-right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 07:18 AM
1

There is a vocal subset of incels who are really off the deep end: unironically in favour of rape, enslaving or murdering women, etc. Everyone, their dog, and the fleas on their dog love to hyper-fixate on these utter weapons, inflate their numbers through magical thinking, and accusing anyone who doesn't toe the line of being like them, because it tickles their misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 07:13 AM
1

Heh. I read the Cosmo one to make sure I got the full gist. Self-awareness desert.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 07:07 AM
2

This is silly. Nobody here is Andrew Tate (I bloody well hope!) and anyone who thinks we are and acts on it deserves to find themselves on the wrong end of a stinging lawsuit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 06:59 AM
1

I don't see this having anything special to do with Prussian culture. Yes, it was extremely toxic and full of absurd standards of masculinity, but not more than 100 other ethnic cultures I could rattle off in one breath.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 06:57 AM
-6

ShoeOnHead is not your ally, even if the people she's calling out are toxic. She's using them to stir up drama and content, to grift more money.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 06:54 AM
1

All of these exist. None are universal constants, though some have come close in the past. The problem is not their being acknowledged, the problem is when feminists and other bad faith actors misuse and misapply them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 06:50 AM
1

They're not shocked (who would be, it's happening so much). They're high on their own anger.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/23 08:03 PM
2

I don't even try, at all. That's also detrimental to my mental health, but the least so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/23 07:41 PM
1

Mine is minor by comparison: a woman at work - she doesn't deserve the title of colleague - slapped my boss's arse and tried to fob it on me, but I was too far away and she knew me not to be the type. Note that my boss has suffered some horrific shit at the hands of men in her life, and was threatened with rape by her own father. She hasn't done anything about the not-colleague, though, so it's an effort to squeeze the empathy through...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/23 07:20 PM
1

I wouldn't grace the arguments put forth in the pro CBT studies with the name of "evidence" but that's just me. If it works for you, well and good, but to me it's just quackery and if I'm not allowed to question or rubbish it here call a mod to ban me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/23 04:54 AM
4

I don't even know anymore, whether I should be optimistic or pessimistic. Guess you're just not arrogant enough to pick one 😁 human affairs are endlessly complex. Which is probably why the gender debate is so rife with feelings - the intellect can only do so much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 03:51 PM
5

I'm not so optimistic as all that, and I have about the same respect for CBT as I do for witch doctors' amulets, homeopathy, and conversion therapy. As for the clip, I'm not sure I saw the same one you refer to, but I know I've seen its like, and read articles about this. The people who bother to click on it are a tiny minority, those whose comments you read are a minority among them, and this sub has a little over 14 thousand subscribers as I write this. I exaggerated only a little when I said …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 03:00 PM
1

It's true, that does sound like such a childish policy even your 10yo self was mature by comparison
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 12:29 PM
1

I hate age gaps at least as much as the average radfem, when I care enough to even notice them; but at least I'm egalitarian about it: man, woman, enby, old, young, ageless, I have a large bag of well-earned epithets for any comer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 12:11 PM
7

Indeed. Women don't have it as well as in the West where I live, either; I'm actually very lucky not to be one. Haven't seen reports of Western feminists do much about people like them or you, in my lifetime at least; except occasionally using you for cheap talking points of course.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 11:55 AM
37

Not to pretend to be an expert on either psychology or yourself, but you might simply be too sane to be a feminist. Used to call myself a feminist too, but in the past few years I've drawn a hard line between feminism and egalitarianism, which is the actual value I aspire to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 06:32 AM
36

Pretty sure you have to rearrange all of modern society's guts for this, and at least a few wires in everyone's brain
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 06:22 AM
2

I never got subbed to it that I know of. But that's probably because I created my account on PC
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/23 05:28 AM
11

Iirc I actually searched "left wing male" on Reddit after years of feeling alienated by the domination of feminism and rampant misandry on the left, and repeated disappointment by all the supposed male advocates I found turning out to be right wing and/ or libertarian ghouls
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/23 12:31 PM
3

Sure! Sounds like a textbook case. Just always keep in mind, she's not just evil - she's wrong. You're not shit just because you're a man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/23 03:16 PM
35

When you combine it with the widespread perception that women are the social gatekeepers (which has a fair bit of ground to stand on in the West, I think), this conclusion becomes obvious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/23 03:14 PM
5

That exists now? 🥳🤯
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/23 09:37 AM
3

That's an innocuous one, though; it shouldn't be challenged anywhere
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/23 04:52 PM
1

Well, I'm an asocial recluse, so it comes up precious little; even at school, my bullies never thought to add virgin shaming to their litanies. Maybe it was just not in fashion yet; I never heard anyone being mocked for virginity while I was in formal education. I hear more (still not much) about marrying and starting a family - disproportionately from medical personnel, for whatever reason - but I live in a poor country, by European standards at least, and my job is menial, so when I say I can'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/23 04:46 PM
5

Ok let's not give Lenin a pass because he worked himself into an early-ish grave
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/23 07:22 PM
2

Frankly you don't even have to include "and dating". If Lenin (who was a monster, but a monster who knew his business), would see how the modern "left" alienates men, he'd laugh himself into a stroke.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/23 12:42 PM
5

Equal retirement age, yes, but this framing is terrible. "Lifestyle choices" is what people say when they want to shit on individuals, or groups they don't like, and give institutions, cultures and societies a free pass in the process.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/23 11:01 AM
1

Mostly, men have the right to remain silent. Anything they say can (and will) be used against them in a court of law...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/23 11:44 PM
18

I self-ID'd as an "incel" once: in a moment of self-loathing, not misogyny. It was a mistake in the short term, but I got a sharp and useful lesson about Internet friends from it, and gained time I would've wasted on them in the longer term.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/23 11:36 PM
17

Because they're an easy target. Anyone who treats a man who'd be called out for "toxic masculinity" by the average feminist like that to his face is at a widely known risk of swallowing teeth, but bullies don't expect any serious pushback from autists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/23 11:32 PM
16

Absolutely not. If you want me to put my life on the line for you as an obligation, you'd better pay me mercenary's wages.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/23 04:43 PM
3

Very aptly put. This, minus half the complexity because I'm careless and lazy, is why I'm against feminism. I just hope I'll have the wisdom to find the other poisonous ideas in my head before I do real damage with them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/23 07:28 PM
8

One big issue to me is lifespan Then get rid of her. You're better off wasting the hours playing a MOBA badly and having shouting matches with your team than beating your head against a woman-shaped wall. Don't get discouraged if you then fail to find any good therapist, either; it's not your fault they can't do their job. Probably get better results with honest friends who are capable of seeing men as human beings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/23 12:22 PM
2

How should we expect proper help with life-threatening problems when I have to jump through a googol loops just to get my damn teeth fixed, and a simple runny nose, despite being in enough funds (to get me well underway at least)?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/23 07:56 AM
6

AOC only looks anything like a good person because of the venomous backdrop that is the majority of the American political class. Take her out of that context, and she's going to start looking like the user she is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/23 09:36 AM
6

Sounds rather like a feminist dog-whistle
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/23 07:43 PM
8

I have an entirely jaded view of feminism writ large. Patriarchy, their view of it, is a myth. Which means it's catchy bullshit with a kernel of truth in the middle. Yes, most of the top 1% of 1% of 1% who make all the big decisions are men. Technically. I wouldn't call most of them human beings in any but the most purely biological sense, but I digress. To lump all men and boys (something like 49.5% of all people) in with those very few shot-callers is absolutely ridiculous and an obvious, sham…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 06:33 PM
2

Feminism was a big part of helping me better understand how humanity works (to the extent that I do, which I'll be the first to admit is no big deal), especially how if enough people shout a lie, it's functionally true until and unless the Universe throws a rock at it, or a Gamma ray burst or something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 06:26 PM
2

Care to elaborate on that accusation there? Because you missed your target badly; I'm a several-times-admitted anti-feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 05:05 PM
3

Married and miserable! Also often sexless for most of their lives, if we're talking men who don't rape their unwilling wives - or are themselves raped by their wives - at least. Even then, that stat is very much contingent on how far back you're willing to go, and there's survivorship bias to consider. If you, as a man, didn't go to war, or came back victorious and not too mutilated in mind or body to function, if you weren't enslaved, if you didn't die early in life for any other reason, if you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 04:36 PM
7

And what's with all the ragging on the modern world? All the last couple of decades have really done is expose things for what they are, to a much broader audience than was ever done before. Dating and many others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 04:27 PM
1

I know 🤢
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 04:12 PM
1

The point, is that those societies had fewer perpetually sexless men because those men were murdered. And yes, some slave populations had some sex, whoopteedoo. Mine slaves generally didn't; they were all men and boys and their shelf life was usually measured in low single digits of months. For example, the Attican silver mines run by ancient Athens. Agricultural slaves usually had it better in this way and others; but even then, it mostly came in two forms: the male master impregnating his fema…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 04:11 PM
0

Oh so it's all fine as long as we can just enslave and/ or massacre the guys next village over and rape their women? Because that's the only place your argument is going. Edit: Also, there goes your "all men [in the society] had sex" - you have to exclude all the murder victims and slaves. Is that because they're "not real men" if they lose the war? Because if you conquer a bunch of people, guess what, they're now part of your society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 03:53 PM
5

Sorry if this comes across as doomer, but sexual reproduction is always going to be a vector for competition and inequality. What we really need is an asexuality pill.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 03:52 PM
3

This is incredibly untrue. The overwhelming majority of human societies, past and present, contain a hierarchy of men's access to sex that's very closely correlated with socioeconomic status. The elites hoover up women, sometimes as outright wives, and as concubines, mistresses, courtesans, sex slaves and such; the lower a man is, the less access he is generally going to have; and at the bottom you have labour slaves and the young men and boys who died (most of disease and exposure, rather than …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 03:46 PM
5

I'm not on Twitter, but I'm pretty sure I've heard him mention this. En passant. I've also heard him say something to the effect of being after systemic solutions for groups but committed to taking the most libertarian, do-it-yourself line wrt individuals. And if I may put on my Nostradamus hat, that's just not going to work, except for some lucky few who are already either doing well, or primed to do well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 11:46 AM
2

More like targeting them and trying to create them, I'd say. It seems to be coming from grifters, dictators and would-be dictators, mostly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 09:18 AM
1

I only got that better AU feeling when I read about random countries I did not identify as bastions of progressiveness, passing pro-trans laws (on r/VaushV, no less 😆), but I do know it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 09:10 AM
54

Saw it on its first day. Vaush is on point as usual in describing the problems he's talking about, but IIRC (might not, my memory has taken a nosedive in 2022) the solutions he offers basically amount to self-improvement on an individual basis, plus therapy (and an urging toward more radical feminists to take it easy with the misandry, but that's definitely not in the cards). He also mentions practicing socialization like training a muscle a lot, I don't remember if he does so specifically in th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 12:05 AM
6

Dig the praxis, hate that it's necessary. Am thinly in favour cases like this piling up. On the bad side, it leads to backlash against trans people and attempts to shut down the loopholes, but on the good side, it leads to the blatant injustice and absurdity of these gendered laws gaining visibility and attempts to level the playing field to make gender-lawyering unnecessary. So if these stories proliferate, what really happens is that the moments of decision are brought forward. That can also b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/23 06:09 PM
7

I'm not sanguine about this at all. If we could actually get women onboard with men's issues that'd be great, but apart from a few exceptions that confirm the rule, and a few content creators of the grifter variety looking to cash in on us, it's just not in the cards. To give my personal example, right now, the three people closest to me are women. Two of them at least love me to bits (the third one is a newer relationship, not even a year, too early to use words like 'love'), or they think they…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/23 09:14 PM
2

You make peace... with being at war. It's Warhammer 40K out there only the daemons and all the other nasties look exactly like people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/23 12:57 AM
7

"Incel" is just the mot du jour, and I don't think it's special. If people want to hurt, they'll use wods they think will hurt. In the soup brains that seem to have gotten your goat, "incel" is pretty much synonymous with "socialist", "SJW", and the more common slurs for homosexuals and black and brown people. If you live long enough to see them make sense, tell us how you did it and why it had to be as a Boltzmann brain, OK? Well, our great grandchildren of the nth degree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/23 12:24 AM
3

Dressing carelessly and cheaply, no haircut or shave beyond a once over every once in a while by my own hands. But the big ones are behaviour and what I say. Wish I could claim I planned them from childhood but basically I'm too awkward and either retiring or over-sharing to attract any woman but one, and that was a special circumstance that didn't go anywhere.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/22 12:32 PM
2

I find it really pays to be, or at least present as, unattractive. Only one woman ever made a pass at me, and she was polite and sane about it. Hardly anyone questions me for not even trying, and it never lasts long; the only one who brought it up a few times across years was my old family doctor, she kept wondering aloud at my celibate state. Still would be nice to lose the gut
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/22 09:37 AM
25

Men can be feminist "allies" the same way Manchukuo was an "ally" of Imperial Japan
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/22 02:14 PM
5

That probably depends on area. When I walk to work in the mornings, and I pass by women, they don't seem to give a damn about the huge man-bear, but it's been pretty quiet where I live for the past 15 years or so if not more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/22 07:43 PM
7

Women's thoughts are their own; as long as they don't harm me or visibly look down on me, I don't care if they're so terrified of me the very sight of me causes a white hair (ok slightly insincere - I like to instill terror without doing any terrible deeds). When they act on it is the problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/22 06:03 AM
14

Here, not so much as in general; but his position falls squarely in the "touch grass, git gud and become magically confident" camp, and as harsh as he is with genocidal maniacs, paedos, and other actual pieces of shit, his dunking on incels and doomers especially is even harsher, and totally out of line. ​ Even in that clip (which I listened to a few days ago, admittedly) it's there, though maybe less explicit than usual.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/22 01:25 PM
1

This. But when you're as hated as he is...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/22 11:43 AM
12

Not hardly. He's a diehard feminist, albeit an often massively entertaining one; I don't even dare to hope this is a chink in his belief in feminism. His dismissive takes on men's issues are half of my biggest disagreements with him and this clip certainly didn't put a dent in that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/22 11:42 AM
1

Nope. I would, however, feel like I've ended up having sex with an idiot, which is no bueno in its own way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/22 01:40 PM
7

I wouldn't fuck Alex Jones, either. Jokes aside, this is 100% correct and based. It's so easy to talk shit about someone like this with valid points only, too; anyone who has to go to body shaming is just signalling that they're also deeply reprehensible and at least unconsciously aware of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/22 10:03 PM
6

Not impressed. Apart from the use of terms you mentioned, I see phrases like "strengthen the internal locus of control" and "self-help as a strength". These are red flags: instructions for social workers who encounter (in this case) incels to tell them to "man up" but in a politically correct way designed to create the appearance of helpfulness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 06:48 PM
2

Listened to a bunch of his stuff a few years ago; he made a number of good points but not for a while. Even without the more recent stuff about him, he lost me a lot faster than (pre-overt insanity, transphobia and racism) Jordan Peterson did due to his style.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 06:38 PM
23

The left in general? Nah, far from it. A few scattered voices doing more to explore little-touched issues as a natural part of the continuing expansion of humanity's collective intellectual space? Sounds more like it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 06:28 PM
3

People who think taking care of their own children is work they should be paid for probably have no business having children 🤔
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/22 03:05 AM
3

The segments you quoted sound like standard feminist drivel. Nothing I feel the need to absorb yet again.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/22 03:04 AM
1

Yes. The closest 3 people to me in my life are all women, and from what I can tell very loving, humanistic, and well-intentioned ones at that; but even their readiness to engage with men's troubles is pretty much zero. I don't often bring them up, and it doesn't help that when I do, it's because I'm too annoyed to shut up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/22 03:00 AM
1

Yeah, that's not how humans work. We had the worst of all worlds for empathy, evolution-wise; we were predators, scavengers, and prey for bigger/ badder predators, all at once. So I really had no reason to be as surprised as I (vaguely remember I) was when I really understood that being insecure among humans is basically painting a target on your back. Empathy is a learned skill; just about anyone capable of functioning in society has a veneer of it, but going deeper than that is rare (except wi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/22 02:56 AM
4

I'd like to hope that too, but alas
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/22 08:55 PM
17

I'm personally disgusted by Weinstein and [redacted for legal reasons], but if any of this is for real, I honestly can't see the people behind this witch hunt as being any better than him. It's one thing to draw his fangs (kick him out of Hollywood, out of any meaningful large-scale endeavor) but this is one of the reasons while anyone claiming to be The Good GuysTM in even the slightest degree should really learn to act the part. Feminism is a perfect example of this. Never mind kids getting su…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/22 06:00 AM
10

Don't know the reasoned rebuttals, and I don't think they, or anything else, helps with people who would stoop so low as to try to rub my face in a talking point like this. Mostly I'd either avoid them altogether or talk down to them and challenge them to call the cops to have me arrested or removed, since I'm "obviously" part of a criminal group.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 06:41 PM
8

So, what's the Estonian legal process to get rid of a PM who turns out to be such an insensitive ghoul she can't even differentiate her misandry from her internalized misogyny?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 06:36 PM
5

I might steal this 😊
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 10:48 PM
5

I roll my eyes at how the author twists her work out of shape to make sure she doesn't offend Saint Feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 10:22 PM
2

This shit right here is why if anyone tries to shame me for not being in or pursuing a relationship with a woman, I'm going to immediately start educating them on what an adult's scorn looks like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 10:17 PM
2

Nope! Tax the ultra-wealthy to pay for unfortunate children instead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 10:11 PM
3

About the one thing I agree with them on is that women are sus (like men, which is not part of their message). A couple years ago I actually consumed a fair bit of red-pill content and I really wanted to get behind it, as part of my compulsive and futile search for an in-group; but not all my desperation could convince me to ignore the bullshit grating on my nerves, and I've since distanced myself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 10:02 PM
14

This is one of the constant refrains of lefty content creators that makes me want to unsubscribe and forget I ever found them. The only way feminism has helped and is helping men is purely incidental and by the way unintended: by freeing women from what amounts to slavery and unlocking their creativity and productivity, thereby enriching everyone including men. The last two words are the unintended part. Other than that, feminism and most of its adherents have been mostly about pushing men down,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 12:32 AM
8

For sure, I was commenting just before sleep so that part eluded me for some reason. Even I got saved from that, and the alt right pipeline more broadly, by pure moral luck, and through no merit of my own.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/22 06:36 AM
53

"Traditional gender roles for thee but not for me". Don't know who first came up with this jingle but it's pretty much feminism in a nutshell. Which is, of course, how you get progressive egalitarian antifeminists like myself, and presumably other gents here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/22 11:23 PM
3

It wouldn't have helped with that, I got no benefit to speak of from being older and bigger (I was taller and heavier than the teacher when I started 1st grade and that wasn't enough). But maybe the early material would've engaged me more and I'd have something approaching a work ethic now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 10:37 PM
7

Overwhelmingly negative, though ironically not because of the gender bias; that's more of a now problem, or else my barbecued kid brain just failed to take enough notice of it. In my case, the only important effect public education actually had was to take what might have been a perfectly good human being and pound it to useless jelly with relentless bullying, misapplied pressure and strictures, and utterly ham-fisted attempts to drill information and obedience into my brain. As for starting, I …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 09:47 PM
24

As a former boy who did have something like this - I started school months later than most of my cohort due to the placing of my birthday - I'd say no. Better would be to work on teacher's gender bias, and allow enough outlets and time for children to use up their excess energy, which is a much bigger problem for boys for reasons I'm not really versed on but seems to be due to how kids are first socialized when very young. And the obligatory apology to the feminist master race does make it hard …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 05:58 PM
2

I have a very high sex drive, moderated only by not working out; and for me, they have to be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 04:21 PM
3

That's the neat thing: I don't. Instead I spurn anyone who shits on me, my loved ones, and positions I hold or find myself in, on principle (there are conflicts unfortunately, but I'm not going to get into that).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 05:03 AM
8

This is just a transitional period, or so we may hope. Artificial wombs should be up and running in a few decades tops, if our stupid species has any hint of self-preservation left. After that, those of us who want to can stop giving a damn about sex altogether.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 08:26 PM
19

It's essentially Soviet science, with ideology trumping everything. And before anyone jumps down my throat for speaking ill of the Soviet Union in a left-wing space, whatever else it was, the Soviet Union was also a fascist dictatorship; sorry, not sorry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 08:22 PM
7

I wonder if she gives the male soldiers from Abu Ghraib the same indulgence. Hahahahaha, no. Take another age of the Universe to get a self-described feminist to be that egalitarian
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 02:48 PM
1

I'm sure it can, but I don't think it deserves to. Sure, the author just died, but as far as I'm concerned, anyone who doesn't descend to ad hominem is fine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 02:47 PM
9

Men's advocacy is already the new theist Satanism to them 😶
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 12:41 PM
1

I resent the hell out of my parents for much less than failing to punch holes in someone like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 12:35 PM
17

Great article but she flubbed it horribly at the end. She spends the whole piece justly deploring the named servicewomen's conduct in Abu Ghraib, but still reserves the most vitriolic language, "acting like beasts", for the men. And she can try to put a positive spin on "if you think equality is the goal your standards are too low" until she resurrects and then goes blue in the face, it's obvious, mask-off toxicity. There's really nothing in feminism anymore and there hasn't been for a long time…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 12:32 PM
8

The trillion dollar question is, how to break the social, instinctive, etc. incentives people, especially women, have to treat perceived incels and male losers like shit? As far as they can tell at least, they'd gain about fuck all, and lose a favourite punching bag, if they stopped.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/22 08:23 AM
3

For sure; cringe women hate gay men because you'll never court them and give them free stuff. Here's hoping this line of thinking will become social suicide in as many places as possible; the women with actual wrinkled brains I'm around are absolute savages toward even lesser forms of evil and stupidity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/22 07:25 AM
7

You had me at "no pants"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 10:40 PM
6

That if it helps their homophobia, the guys who actually spout this line, MRA or otherwise, can say it's not gay when they kiss my unmasculine arse
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 09:55 PM
1

I think I can hear George Orwell's corpse shouting "I told you so" from here. 'Here' being nowhere close to Britain. On reflection, places like China and Russia have this as well, at least if you're aiming it at the regime and its toadies. Ugh, that's what I get from straying out of my wheelhouse and into this 'positive thinking' nonsense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/22 05:06 AM
1

Yeah if I helped bring a child into this world I wouldn't have the chutzpah to look it in the eye, a boy especially.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/22 11:20 PM
-2

I see ShoeOnHead as a vicious lunatic with delusions of badassery and a rightist despite anything to the contrary she might claim, but when she's right, she's right
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/22 02:32 PM
7

Swing and a miss. I know what a safeword is, I'm asking how am I supposed to know when one is conveyed, and what if it's nonverbal, etc. In BDSM any practitioner with half a brain cell knows to keep it simple (as well as loud and clear), but out in the world it's a goddamn mess, especially for the less socially astute. Sometimes women (and men) pull faces at me and I couldn't tell you if they were disgusted at me or wanted to jump my bones on the spot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/22 07:40 PM
2

Ok fine what are the safewords? And safe"words"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/22 07:28 PM
31

Can't say that I've seen this one except blips here and there online. Might be the culture I live in and the spaces I actually see online. But if anyone wants to shame me for buying an expensive (for my budget) PC they can fuck right off.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/22 07:24 PM
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It's legalese, this is about as brief as it gets 🙃 but if I got the gist, it's: you'd have to give informed consent to be a parent, separate from the one you give to have legal sex. Women could withhold that consent to justify abortions, and in the argument's pure form men could withhold it to opt out of any parental responsibilities. That second part is putting everyone off (except men who don't enjoy being exploited, but fuck us, amirite?) including the creator of the argument, who has tried t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/22 05:56 PM
3

It's definitely true that the human brain needs variety too (some more than others), and I'm glad to see you're doing better. Age and experience have helped me as well; I was probably at my lowest point in my teens, and if you'll permit me to veer into disgusting twee territory for a moment, every day someone don't commit suicide is a chance to come to some sort of peace with oneself. And yes, whatever what I call my schizoid PD is, it's been useful, and I'm vaguely reminded of I think reading s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 09:09 PM
3

Ow. I don't think I know more than the shallows of this lake of pain, which is probably thanks to my possible, unconfirmed and undiagnosed schizoid personality disorder (is it even a disorder if it's helpful? I'm sure a therapist would disagree firmly that this makes it, whatever it is, helpful at all, but that's their problem). That aside, I don't rightly know what to do if distracting yourself with the rest of your life doesn't work. But if your state calls to mind words like downward spiral a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 08:37 PM
7

Oh, I feel it. My strat's point is not to alleviate that, but to allow me to function in society (to the extent that I do).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 08:15 PM
5

And I don't fault them for it at all. Life can be hard enough on its own, and if it's not, there are more important optional struggles to be had. Also, I'm there, minus the addiction which I avoid because I was already too jaded to suspend my disbelief to that degree when I first started on it as a kid, never mind now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 07:22 PM
12

Same here. I even identified as one in a moment of self-loathing, though it didn't stick, and I've never hung around their spaces for more than a few minutes at a clip out of infrequent, morbid curiosity. My strategy has been to just sexually ignore the actual women around me, essentially interacting with them as if I'm totally gay (edit: or ace).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 07:16 PM
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No, but I'll bet the causal relation is the inverse of what is usually assumed: more men are sexless => higher demand for pornography and adjacent content.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 07:04 PM
4

Ah, true; though I mostly meant that (what I've seen and heard of) incels don't seem to be playing the game, as it were; they just want to win effortlessly. Which, as far as I'm concerned, would be fair enough, except it would require denying women (also men? I don't know of any gay incels but they probably exist?) freedom and autonomy, which I'm not cool with. Still, I don't hate on them, or at least not nearly as much as I do on the people who do hate on them. The proliferation of incels is al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 07:02 PM
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💯 At least in the information age we have more and more men not willing to play this obviously rigged game, even if that unwillingness can manifest in a toxic way (incels being the worst). Yes, a lonely life unfit for a social animal will take two-digit percentages off one's quality of life, and possibly two-digit numbers of years off the length, but that's still better than the alternative of suffering the same while tearing yourself apart to try to be a traditionally successful man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 06:46 PM
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Zero. Modern society, like most human societies I've ever heard of, highly values frustrating the sexual desires of men (though also stoking them when required), to get them to work harder in their pursuit. Now, high-status men are exempt from this, mostly. This is a big and old part of the concept of (societal) corruption. They're also some of the people concerned with ensuring that the frustration and exploitation of the general male population, and enshrining it in cultural mores, overtly or …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 06:41 PM
2

True, but conscription is going to buy Latvia, what, 5 hours, if Russia invades it? (Hyperbole, but not that much of it)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 08:17 AM
13

They can bloody well try, I seriously doubt that will stick.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/22 09:53 PM
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I think the radfems and cynical media ghouls pushing this narrative are as much enemies of humanity as any school shooter. Doubt any of them would be more charitable toward me; one cursory look at my life and they'd peg me as a spree rapist-killer waiting to happen. At this point, I don't see much point to good faith or kid gloves when pushing back against their millions-of-lives-destroying bullshit. Violence is obviously a no-go, but it's not violence to verbally eviscerate these muppets, is it…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/22 06:46 PM
7

That speaks to a much more charitable take on humanity than I possess. As far as I'm concerned, it's a miracle that so many people are willing to say "slavery bad" even if a good chunk of them don't mean it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/22 03:51 PM
21

I narrowly avoided conscription in Romania because it was abolished just before my year. This probably saved my life - military discipline and the physical demands of military training don't mix well with someone like me. It was male only as well. The misandrist angle is really unnecessary because it's already repellent enough, being slavery. If governments can't motivate their people to jump to their defense against Putin-led Russia, they'd be better served with a bit of self-reflection.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/22 03:43 PM
9

Not scientific but my instinct and personal experience tell me that men play video games more (if they can) because they're not working rather than the reverse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/22 09:21 PM
5

The more men learn to do without women, the less of a problem we'll be... though not to the vocal minority, they'll keep on screeching. BTW, don't know about the urban US but where I live there are plenty of women capable of civilised interaction with men they don't want in bed, so it's not even necessary to veer into MGTOW territory or anything. And all the radfems and other misandrists can rot. I wouldn't pull a hair for the lot and for my money nobody should
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/22 05:19 AM
1

Men bad. Weren't you informed of this? More seriously, you're right about the culprit but the impetus to go against them just isn't there, and a scapegoat is needed. A scapegoat is always needed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/22 10:44 PM
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From what I see, the stereotypical MRA guy is more like me than the more active gents here: beyond done with all the bullshit, scared of having it invade his life, and terminally unwilling to help anyone belonging to groups who've shat on him, or he thinks shat on him. Proud, too; but it's not exactly relevant here. Probably best to let them just do their own thing, and try to build what you want with bricks that will cooperate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/22 10:42 PM
1

Ouch, that sucks. But I'd exercise a lot more compassion if this wasn't the dude who among other things preaches that [paraphrase] life is suffering and we're morally obligated to bear up under it well [/paraphrase], or whatever - and the woman who's been married to him for most or all her adult life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/22 06:24 AM
6

Cheers! Glad to see that "ex" in front of girlfriend too, people escaping their abusers always puts a smile on my heart (face is too lazy, sorry). Former fringe Petersonite here, in that I never got behind his whole shtick but I did get some interesting info from him, though of course leavened with bullshit, some of which may still be living in my head rent-free. Back when I listened to him he was more, how you say, coherent - he seems to have gone off his rocker in the last few years. I blame a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/22 06:31 PM
1

I love that you specifically used the word "wreckers".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/22 06:19 PM
10

Here's my downvote magnet hot take, as an avowed leftist: Equality of opportunity is nice but not important. What I want is sufficiency of opportunity for all. Let's have everyone or as many people as possible be educated properly so they can form a reasonable opinion as to what a good life for them would be, and let's then give them the tools (including mental) to get there, while being useful to the community, so that it can afford to continue to do this. Virtuous cycle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/22 06:51 PM
6

And the mask comes off! So, expecting a bare minimum standard of mutual understanding from people is bad attitude now? If anything, my position is that the direct communication should happen earlier than you'd put it, and in the case of certain basic things, much earlier, and that it is or should be fine to assume beforehand that an average adult understands them, if for no other reason (and there are other reasons!) because it saves time. Which can be used for other important communication, inc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/22 07:51 AM
5

This would be all very well and good, if humans didn't age - and, yes, if they were a better, kinder lot thereby (I very much doubt it would work out that way). Except I really don't like this narrative that X can't understand Y's experience because they lack an insider's perspective. Don't you see how it serves both to gatekeep ("you'll never understand me because you're not a teen/black/trans/Jewish/whatever") and to make excuses for bad behaviour? For my part, I have as of this writing a 35 y…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/22 06:41 AM
8

Maybe you just have a rosier view of people than I do, idk. It's one thing if this kind of talk is discussed beforehand between partners, and not done in a mocking (or objectifying) spirit, but the overwhelming majority of times, it is done without the partner's consent, and it is mockery, objectification, and at best venting. I'm not going to mandate what anyone else talks about, either. I merely reserve the right to think less of them, and even to cut them off from my life, if I think what the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/22 11:05 PM
6

I guess I just have a different perspective on it. Many men and women in abusive relationships do not figure out they’re being abused and leave unless they talk about it. Many victims of sexual assault (which by and large, happens within romantic relationships) do not figure out they’ve been assaulted unless they talk about it. Silence kills. This is victim blaming. Or are you not aware that most abusers go to great length to keep their victims silent? That’s obviously the extreme end of things …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/22 10:17 PM
6

Nope. It's celebrity drama, and is going to mean approximately dick to the actual lived experiences of the 99%+ of men who are not famous multi-millionaires.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/22 08:06 PM
8

...No. Women by and large, and especially the kind of woman who does what OP said, or is as bad as his sister, want to get the social brownie points of being someone who cares about men's feelings, at least in cultures where that's a thing. Without actually caring about men's feelings (and in most cases, women outside their immediate social network, too). I've actually seen what it looks like when women actually overcome this, or try to; and cross into genuinely caring about men (for example, my…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/22 07:56 PM
7

I say thee nay! It's one thing to discuss one's relationship online or wherever while keeping the partner actually anonymous, but sharing someone else's private life without their consent, or more than they consented to, is a no go.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/22 01:57 PM
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At the risk of coming off as counterproductive, I simply don't date or court anyone. Insomuch as I socialize with women (I don't do much socializing regardless) I have access to their experiences, most of which they tend to be all too willing to share; to their wisdom, or unwisdom; to small favours; even, up to varying points, to their aid and affection. While putting no (or very little) effort beyond being my usual self. But for sex and everything around it, they put up endless gatekeeping and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/22 01:53 PM
13

Cope and seethe, noobs 🤣
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/22 03:21 PM
3

I suppose, but it's unfortunate if so. Neoliberal is "new liberal" which may mean something entirely different to any given generation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/22 03:51 PM
8

+1, kind of (and I'm not American). I still consider myself far-left, socialist, liberal in the proper sense of the word and egalitarian, but I'm 100% opposed to feminism, and woke-skeptic at my most generous. Edit: And yes, I feel very lonely, politically.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/22 10:18 AM
3

It'd probably be useful if we all learned to separate "liberal" the mostly-favourable term for someone who holds actual liberal views wrt x, y or z, and "lib" the pejorative term for illiberal people trying to pretend like they're liberal. Edit: But the gatekeeping, I know 😔
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/22 09:53 AM
13

Social media was a mistake. Even allowing for that, Twitter was a mistake.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/22 09:51 AM
2

Good points except I really don't want to have sex with Jordan Peterson.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/22 06:08 PM
2

I'll take that chance, we bio intelligences are perfectly capable of destroying each other and the world
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/22 11:54 AM
2

If I program a femme AI that's my daughter. Talk about cringe. Stuff like that aside, I don't recommend wasting brain cells on whether a woman is bio or not
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/22 11:52 AM
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True, but why cringe? I mentioned fully-fledged AIs (with full rights and freedom, forgot to say) because I'm a picky bastard and anything less wouldn't work for me. But I 👍 anything that makes the conventional sexual marketplace less important and more equal. Edit: Especially less important.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/22 02:36 AM
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AI women who don't have that crap in their programming. Not mere sex-bots, note: fully sentient and free-willed AIs. For our lifetimes? I've got nothing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/22 04:44 PM
2

Usually I find them too preachy and annoying to resonate
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/22 10:37 AM
1

Sorry but at worst mockery and shaming are ways to feel superior through putting down other people while pretending to do something about real problems, and at best, they're wrong-headed tactics picked up by people trying to do good with limited time and resources, and alighting on what appears to get results on a shallow inspection. Shallow, typically because the said people are too busy working themselves into oblivion to put food on the table and keep the roof above the table there. They simp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 03:10 PM
5

This is probably the most based anti-quitting message of any kind I've seen all year. 👍
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 02:47 PM
7

I have zero respect for mockery and shaming. That's the feminists' game, by the way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 02:36 PM
4

They will fail, at least for the most part 😊
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 10:31 AM
7

I'm going to skip the six hour lecture on the dozens of ways that is a bad idea, and go straight to prostitutes also don't do anything for me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 10:30 AM
4

Going with the flow of the mating instinct is facile. And if you call it deterministic, and have people believe you, you can even avoid being called a basic bitch for letting it rule you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 07:11 AM
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Dude, you just held forth against feminism, here where you're very unlikely to be challenged for it (I certainly won't) and how being a male feminist requires self-loathing (correct again). But sex bots are fucked up? I understand the instinctive reaction - and feminists who know anything about them have certainly gone out of their way to make the nascent sex bot industry out to be the Antichrist's nastier, creepier cousin; the all-too-real visceral reaction aside, they know why they do so, see …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/22 06:11 AM
5

Not impressed, I can virtue signal too, and better than this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/22 02:49 PM
16

Well, hyper-sexualized society is definitely what we have. I was ashamed of being a virgin at 14, never mind 17. Got over it, as much as anyone ever does, later on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/22 02:47 PM
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My response to that would be to tell them to read more history, and read it closer. If they don't change their tune afterwards, ask them if their birth parents were brother and sister.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 10:35 AM
2

The epidemic of mental illness you referred to is already underway, I'd say. Though I'm pretty sure it will get far worse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 08:43 PM
2

Ngl, it's kind of wild that that last one got life with no parole hearing for 37 years. If it were the father, sure, that or no parole or death; but I wouldn't have bet she'd get a day over 20 with parole possible after 10.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 08:40 PM
3

Well, if that dude went to AskFeminists I imagine this kind of response was exactly what he expected and wanted: support to switch to full misandry. As someone who also has problems with self-loathing, I wish him luck with any would-be recovery.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 08:26 PM
2

That lucky bastard. Aro ace is the dream. Ahem For all my general bleakness, I'm very glad to live in a time where a greater than ever proportion of humanity feels and/ or is at liberty to diverge from the norms imposed by nature and tradition. Such as you - instead of being obliged, or even forced, to be someone's wife or sex slave, you get to be your own man. Literally. That's pretty slick, I say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/22 02:19 AM
7

Women (and by the way, men) marrying or quasi-marrying without having children is usually a consequence of affluent lifestyles with plenty of leisure time. Many who have that, myself very much included, will want to keep it, and also have more time for independent thought. One of the most important signs of this is the desire to stay childless, to keep the resources and avoid the hassle - which is much easier to justify when one expects to at least maybe have options outside younger relatives, i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/22 08:39 PM
23

Definitely not, and the emergence of TGR is more a consequence (a horrible one, let's be clear) than a cause of human sexual dynamics. ​ The sad truth is that sexual reproduction may be very good at accelerating biodiversity and selecting for fitness to the environment, it's hell on the individual of either gender, and it doesn't do so hot generally in the partly artificial environment humanity has built for itself. The way this worked out for humans is that men want to have sex with women, and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/22 08:27 PM
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I'd like to see how they'd have ruled if it was a woman calling him that, this is male on male so the Employment Tribunal critters are basically playing around with something they don't care one whit about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/22 05:47 PM
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Conservatives don't give a tinker's damn about men's issues. They're just more in the habit of using them as political ammo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/22 03:57 PM
6

It's a lot worse than that: the HP verse love potions we see in action are to date rape drugs what absinthe is to small beer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/22 02:04 PM
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I also don't like anyone who uses this take to shit on men, but I also think it's true that the monsters pushing for this at the top don't give a damn about any babies. I'm sure some of them want to push back against and punish women's lib, too; others just want to ensure a cheap [insert local elite's race, religion and ethnicity here - definitely Nordic white Protestant Christians in the US] workforce, and most of them, both.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/22 07:23 PM
23

Verdict is just sexual assault, not rape, and sentence is 6 months suspended, which is basically a stern warning for the woman - I doubt she'll even lose her job, or have trouble at any future interviews. This is hardly progress.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/22 06:05 PM
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Whoever touts the moronic line about why women are misandrist would probably think I should hate all Roma because I endured violence and coercion from a very small number of arseholes. Then again, maybe that's genuinely the limit of how close their very small brains can come to a correct line of thinking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/22 11:46 AM
1

Idk what they were playing at; a billionaire can afford lawyers who will eventually strangle this sort of crap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/22 03:03 PM
16

This. The majority of men (and women, btw) were slaves and peasants, toiling away in unfree conditions to feed a tiny elite that almost always hated them and held them in contempt.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/22 07:10 PM
6

Huh, I'm part of the plurality for a change? Training is one thing (I mean, we have compulsory schooling and that's pretty based and necessary, all things considered) but forcing people to fight and/ or work for the state is an idea that belongs to the bad old days when the king owned everything and everyone in his realm (notionally at least). We do not need those times ever again, and we do not need this disgusting relic of them. Putin wouldn't have been able to occupy fucking Chernobyl if he d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/22 07:02 PM
1

Sigh. At this rate I might live to see my first mandatory dose of prozium or whatever they'll call it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/22 07:47 PM
1

Cis, trans, straight, gay, etc. A coward is a coward is a coward. Source: I'm one too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/22 07:43 PM
2

MLK was martyred. I don't want anyone to die for me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/22 12:57 PM
2

By all means, don't ignore it if you find that morally offensive. Just try to adopt the detached approach of a surgeon who's seen it all - especially if you want to be politically effective.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/22 10:10 AM
2

Don't get me wrong, I hate this stuff too, but as long as you can't, say, sue them into the stone age, there's very little cause to gnaw on your own sanity on their account. This is self-directed advice too, I'm not an above-it-all zen master (yet).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/22 05:39 PM
1

Haters gonna hate. Joke's on them, they're wasting their one life on it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/22 09:17 PM
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That's the neat thing: you don't. More seriously, I'm not a stranger to the overpowering need for validation from women. Right now it's living in your head rent-free and making you miserable. The more you focus on it, the worse it'll get, so as others have said use your time and money on better things, and look into a male therapist. I'm close to your age and quite miserable myself; but the complete lack of a sex life is a low priority item on my list of problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/22 09:14 PM
3

Quite. Never claimed otherwise; I have zero respect for my country's government (still > Putin, though that might just be lack of opportunity)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/22 01:23 PM
12

As much as we'd like to cherish the Ukrainians as the Good GuysTM, they're not. They're just much better people than Putin and his wretched clique, which is... not impressive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/22 05:25 PM
7

Sometimes the only winning move is not to play. Has anyone else found that the women they interact with are actually more empathetic and easier to deal with when sexuality doesn't come up at all?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/22 05:54 AM
3

Thanks for the epic line, my dude! 💪
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/22 11:29 AM
2

This may be arrogant of me but I'm pretty sure know the answer: Hell No. Conservatives are about as good for the average joe's health as strongly radioactive feminists with violence-inducing brain tumors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/22 11:26 AM
1

Here's my take: Let's not throw away a perfectly good filter for toxic people. If I'm a single childless man and expect to remain so for all my life, which I do, and somebody comes at me to get a girlfriend or get married and start a family, I can immediately think "⚠️" and not invest time and neurons in that person. If social pressure is put on people to cut that shit out, they'll hesitate and be toxic as they can, while slipping under the radar.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/22 11:23 AM
1

I'd say not right now, but it's going to get better because tomorrow's old single men can while the years away on the Internet and gaming.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/22 11:18 AM
1

Good points, except don't make too much of a point of height. I'm 6'8, and it doesn't do me a damn bit of good except that, in my relatively peaceful city at least, I can walk around confidently (ha!) at any hour of the night and chances are, nobody will bother me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/22 11:14 AM
1

I believe I have a mild case. It does offend me, and I'd say it's the opposite of toxic masculinity, which I'm also not a fan of, along with anything else toxic (except sugar).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/22 11:10 AM
4

A veteran educator and psychologist called me (transl.) "the favoured child of destiny" because I don't owe a bent copper to any bank. And I do mean veteran, this person is recently retired, and is someone who generally knows their business very well, at least to my untrained ear. This may or may not have been in jest, but it went down like a lead balloon, as you can easily imagine. This problem can take many forms, and the actual word "privilege" need not be involved. Probably the best thing to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/22 11:05 AM
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Not in any kind of timeframe where we'll live to see it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/22 01:16 PM
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In my case it's sheer envy. I'd have so much more peace of mind if I were ace.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/22 08:14 PM
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I held him in high regard for the longest goddamn time and I'll never forgive myself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/22 07:51 PM
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Somehow I don't think you'll get many people jumping down your throat for this post here. As a sporadic student of... just about anything that isn't pure mathematics, I agree, and it is annoying. There might be some truth to the fact that men are over-represented at the extremes, both good and bad, because we only have one X chromosome.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/22 08:49 PM
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Pope Francis is an 85 year old (as of this writing) product of a culture, system and way of thinking in which he's achieved ultra-rare levels of success. All that positive reinforcement is going to add up especially if it has decades to work on the brain, so I'd say it's to his credit that he's not a completely generic tradcon.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/22 04:56 PM
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Tradcons (and others including their political enemies) punching down? It's even more likely than you think!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/22 03:40 PM
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I actually recommend making this a strict deal breaker, at least if your intentions are any kind of serious. Even if she passes all of Dr Smith's litmus tests, as long as she's calling herself a feminist, she's basically advertising that she's at the most risk of adopting more of feminism in the future. Call me paranoid (I do it, and proudly) but that's not the kind of risk I want in my life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/22 10:54 AM
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Mine is that the inhumanity and violent oppression in Japan is decentralized, so to speak - that the government is a lot better about leaving people alone, but the local hierarchies more than take up the slack. Bullying and victim-blaming are apparently an even bigger problem, and the pressures to obey your seniors and the authorities, and to avoid standing out, are almost entirely unchallenged. Also, their attitude to people (especially men) who don't succeed in the job market, for whatever rea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/22 10:03 AM
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Trying to enthusiastically embrace any ideas one doesn't agree with enthusiastically is like trying to introduce an unsanitary foreign object off the street under your skin. Whether or not it's worth it for the sake of an ally of convenience ultimately depends on how powerful that ally is, and how accommodating. Since these two factors pull against each other, the answer is almost invariably no.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/22 04:49 PM
1

I lucked out in this manner. Leaving aside how I got to where I am, predatory girls and women never wanted anything to do with me; and if that changes it's too late now, as I am in my thirties and sufficiently jaded. Don't rightly know what can be done for this guy, legally - but I'm also not a lawyer. If anything, it would probably help him to lose his job and spend just enough time unemployed that she disappears, but his own situation isn't wrecked. I wonder if something like that could be arr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/22 04:03 PM
1

To keep it short (I could rant about this at some length): Yes, it is sexist, unequal and demeaning. If I were ever to consider getting married, through a proposal made by me, the final proof that the idea is sound (after a hefty amount of time in relationship, legal research by me on the side, and any other precautions I deemed necessary) would be how she takes it when I propose without kneeling or presenting a gift. If I detect the slightest hint of displeasure on her part, even if she says ye…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/22 03:42 PM
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I'm not sure if it's the same documentary, but there was one, also about the same topic and the same country, where one of the workers tasked with cleaning up the corpse of a man who had committed suicide by falling - and this dude was complaining about how inconsiderate it was for the guy who'd just committed suicide to leave such a mess. Now, I don't think many people would appreciate having to clean up the bodies of people who commit suicide or die alone and aren't found for days as part of t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/22 01:14 PM
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