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Doesn't your first paragraph kinda imply that if you want a woman who is both sexually voracious and feminist and egalitarian about her views on sex, it would be smarter to select for women that have casual sex and have lots of previous experience? I don't care at all about body count, but it's super important to me to feel sexually desirable, and the idea of accidentally getting into a relationship with a woman that represses her desire for me is my idea of a nightmare. I'm coming at this from …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:55 PM
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2016 election dems won the popular vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:05 AM
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Who would men be going to war against?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:04 AM
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Actually, the happiest countries have some of the lower birthrates. Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, the Netherlands consistently rate as the happiest countries on Earth and their birthrates are just as bad our worse than American ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:04 AM
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I sort of struggle to see the difference between that and being a passport bro. The whole point of being a passport bro is to go to countries where men can more easily get a traditional woman if they aren't poor, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:56 AM
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What social safety nets specifically are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:06 PM
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Considering Nazi propaganda portrayed Jewish women as reducers of Aryan man, I find it hard to believe some of them were not sexually attracted to Jewish women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:51 AM
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I'd be willing to bet that rapists were more likely to rape people they found attractive than people they found ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:06 AM
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Do you don't think people rape who they find attractive? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:47 AM
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Do you think you need to think highly of a group of people to be attracted to them? How highly do you think the Nazis that raped Jews in the holocaust thought of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:54 PM
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Because the less you assume about people the better. People during your college age had far less exposure to the idea of sleeping around or not dating with the idea of exclusivity so that was a safer assumption back then. Are you seriously asking why you should not assume humans, a social species that isn't naturally monogamous, are not dating multiple people?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:59 AM
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Yes, as in family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:10 PM
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"I’m learning to find peace by myself, because I don’t want to depend on someone else to feel good about myself."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:07 PM
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He does not care enough that he feels it is some big societal issue that is preventing him from achieving his goals. He does not need romantic relationships to be happy, and if he does decide to be in one, he will vet the woman to make sure her views are compatible with his. What is difficult to understand about this? It's not some ancient truth but clearly it's in need of repeating because men like you deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:00 PM
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I mean, I do ultimately think women prefer life now to when gender roles were more in effect, regardless if some of them wish men were approaching more. I think women expect traditional roles far less than they used to. But even still, if they decide they decide that the only man they want to date is some rich 7 foot tall dude who simultaneously treats them equally but also adheres to all male gender roles, what's the issue with that? It's unrealistic and silly, but they are allowed to stay sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:16 AM
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What does handling it "responsibly" mean? How is not approaching not responsible?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:55 AM
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I'm not familiar with said article. Regardless, I don't think women believing they notice a lack of good men represents any actual regret or desire to change dynamics on their part. But like I said, I still don't think any significant portion of women is saying or thinking stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:38 AM
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Those are ragebait engagement posts and not at all reflective of how women actually think. Tiktok is not real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:27 AM
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I agree that pregnancy, especially difficult ones, can take some recovery time. I would like to point out that baby formula exists so women don't necessarily have to nurse at all, but I get your point. Honestly, my desire to have any hypothetical partner actually birth my children is pretty low. I tend to not really have the severance for it that lots of people do, so I think I'd only go along with a partner that wanted me to if they promised me I could have it my way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:21 PM
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I mean, for me personally I don't really want kids, and if I did I'd be okay with adopting. If I ever got another woman pregnant it would pretty much only be because she convinced me to do so and pushed past my hesitations of her being pregnant causing her to not work, so I think in that scenario it wouldn't be hypocritical for me to want her to be the provider. I've actually pretty much already decided I only want kids if I can be a SAHD. What are your thoughts on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:10 PM
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Oh, I thought the idea was that you guys would both actually get a surrogate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:06 PM
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So you're saying you'd actually want to be in a relationship with an actual SAHD?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:34 PM
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We're playing the "if things keep going at the rate they've been going it will not be rare anymore" game. Y'know, anthropologists kinda make a living off of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:29 PM
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Sure, just like women in the workforce or in the education system. These things don't happen overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:27 PM
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Why would they not just both pay for surrogacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:45 PM
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The rising number of SAHDs would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:41 PM
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Search up "male only book club". They exists and aren't controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 07:22 PM
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Ambition is sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:58 AM
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"Don't respond to people on a public message board if they weren't specifically talking to you" "If you have something to say, don't be a coward about it" Lol. What do you think the purpose of public message boards is? If you don't want to use dms then complaining when people respond to your public messages is kinda dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:54 PM
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Not really. That's the entire point of reddit. You could've dm'd them if you actually wanted it to be private. There is no butting into a conversation on a public message board meant for discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:22 AM
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I think the fact that it's a big enough issue that the Department For Education is calling it out as an issue speaks for itself. I'm not saying Europe isn't on average better than the US when it comes to gender roles, but to act like it's some paradise where they don't exist is pretty funny and verifiably false.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:16 PM
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Really? UK teachers and the Department For Education disagree with you: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm3x92mpdxo Have there not been a ton of prolific protests/riots related to immigration in the UK lately? Regardless, the idea that European countries are free of machismo is pretty clearly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:12 PM
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I'm sorry, I just don't buy it. Andrew Tate and similar influencers were and continue to be fairly popular in the UK. I understand that Europe, particularly Scandinavian countries and the like, tends to be much more progressive and accepting of things, but I think those ideas are still alive and well. Hell, they even exist in South Korea, where men wearing makeup is most popular. There isn't a place where you'll face no discrimination as a guy for doing stuff like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:48 PM
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Brigitte Macron is not trans lol, that is a dumb conspiracy theory. Also, if Macron does wear makeup, it's only the regular concealer/foundation type makeup that all public figures wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:37 PM
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There are ideas of machismo and traditional masculinity in every country, no matter the continent. Tell me how many male politicians have been seen wearing makeup, heels, or dresses? And if none of them have, ask yourself why.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 02:32 PM
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I find it hard to believe that there wouldn't be a significant amount of people that would hold negative views of men doing that, regardless of where you live. At the very least, it would be far more than the amount of people that would hold negative beliefs about women doing that otherwise we would see more men doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 02:26 PM
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Do you think that if a man walked into a job interview in the deep south with visible concealer and eyeliner that his job prospects would be hurt more or less than a woman who showed up for an interview with visible concealer or eyeliner? Like, it seems pretty obvious to me that these things aren't normalized for men in any meaningful way outside of more heavily liberal areas. Yoy will still get looks if you do these things in ways a woman wearing makeup won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 02:20 PM
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It is normalized for men to wear makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:34 PM
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If women were nearly as horny as men but only for "Chads", there would be "Chad" prostitution rings. The fact that there aren't means that women aren't as horny. Many men find being sexless very difficult while more women do not.
/r/MensRights23/08/25 12:01 AM
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Dude you are proving my point lol.
/r/MensRights22/08/25 09:29 PM
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I mean, you can be dutiful and faithful to causes that serve you and don't harm others, which marriage isn't always that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:46 PM
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I don't actually think duty and faithfulness are good in it of themselves. I think they are only good if you are being dutiful and faithfull to something worthwhile. And people not wanting to stick with arrangements that don't serve them aren't immoral, lol. Marriage may be legally recognized, but you don't need to be married to have your name on the birth certificate. You don't need to be married to have pre-arranged living agreements. It wouldn't be hard at all to change laws in such a way tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:34 PM
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There really isn't a point to duty and faithfulness without love. I don't think you're going to convince people to stick with people they hate for morality's sake alone. But if we are likening marriage to more of a business agreement, why not just do away with it entirely and do those sorts of agreements instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:26 PM
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Then marriage should be nothing more than an agreement to rear children. If we're going to go that route, we need to remove all notions of duty, love, and faithfulness from it. We can make birth control and abortion legal and easily accessible, and your husband can be the guy that is thr bio father of your kids and raises them while you have other lovers that take care of the love and sexual fulfillment parts of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:19 PM
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The fact that when women are horny they can get men easily, but men can't get women easily when they are horny, means men are hornier than women. Women can have sex easier than men because the number of horny women is less than the number of horny men.
/r/MensRights15/08/25 08:00 AM
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Men would mate with female monsters, too, if there were as many of them and if those monsters wanted to have sex with them. I think the existence of prostitution and onlyfans proves that men are more horny on average.
/r/MensRights14/08/25 12:22 PM
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As a relationship dynamic to strive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 12:07 AM
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Is it reasonable do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 12:05 AM
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If you don't like feminine women, is it okay to want to split bills(or even have them pay for you)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 12:04 AM
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Men were also historicall willing to both risk their lives and kill for religion, conquest, and familial honor. We've largely accepted that it's dumb to be focused on those things so much, but it seems men just can't let go of there dependency on women. It's not skin off my nose. See, I'm fine with being single, no matter what women's standerds are, I'll be fine. It's just so odd that so many men are so obsessed with women to the point where they become these pathetic, crying messes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:45 PM
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If only it was an option to just be single and focus on other htings. Alas, human males self destruct if they're without attention for too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:36 PM
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So if you met a man that had the "personality of a woman" you'd fall in love with them? If you met a man that was sweet and emotional?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:27 PM
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But all of those things you listed you can do with a man. You can be part of a team, live your life with them. If that's really all it's about, the gender shouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:23 PM
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You could do all those things you listed with a man🤷‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:12 PM
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it is more beneficial to be strong, than it is to be weak Patently false. We have loads of instances of creatures evolving to be smaller and have weaker immune systems because the extra calories required to maintain such structures wasn't worth the trade off. Same with intelligent creatures becoming dumber because intelligence wasn't required for their survival and they evolved simpler, more efficient brains and nervous systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:26 PM
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If that's the next stage in human evolution, so be it. I'm happy with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:28 PM
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I mean, I wouldn't be so sure. I know more and more men in the gen z age range that just don't seem interested in dating. Masturbation seems to quell their urges well enough, and they're more focused on video games and stuff like that. Seems like men and boys like that are getting way more common nowadays. As for saving the human race, again, I wouldn't be so sure. Sure, birthrates are down in the Western world, but it'll never get so bad that the species will be in danger of going extinct. Arti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:16 PM
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Eh, I don't think women should be punished for being evolutionarily successful. I most men should just go extinct and let the species evolve uninhibited. We may be seeing that happen already, as I'm seeing more and more men talk about being happy single.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:50 PM
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Well, maybe men have run their course evolutionarily speaking? The whole point of evolution is that beings that aren't suited for their environment die off and those that are thrive. I guess it's just time for men, as they are now, to go extinct already and make room for the next improved iteration.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:38 PM
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So? What difference does it make. No one even knows your relationship status unless you disclose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:01 AM
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Is your entire life dependant on how women see you? I can't think of anything that is less important to me than what women think about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:09 AM
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Well, I disagree, but at least you're consistent. I think all the various vile serial-rapists throughout history proce you can both be sexually attracted to a group of people but simultaneously hate them and want nothing to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:44 PM
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Do yo think all of the women participating in the 4B movement right now are gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:37 PM
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Do you think sexuality has to do with action or attraction? Could someone be sexually attracted to a group of people but not want to engage with them for reasons other than attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:33 PM
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If a straight man said "I still want to fuck women but don't think they're worth the trouble of dating" would you call them not straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:52 PM
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I'm not being sarcastic in the slightest. I operate a large factory where freshly kidnapped babies are transported via a conveyor belt to have their penises and balls chopped off by rusty cleavers and the girls have acid poured in theirs. I take offense that you think I would lie about such a thing. I'm VERY serious when it comes to my life's work and I wont have it slandered by the likes of some internet ruffian. I'll tell you exactly what I'm into, baby genital mutilation, duh. That you don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:06 AM
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I mean, no one has the right to not be insulted or ostracized(depending on what ostracized entails).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:19 PM
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Oh, I am involved in genital mutilation. Making wieners go bye-bye is my favorite pastime.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:45 PM
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Not really. As long as most men work, society will pretty much function as normal. And the same men that are so distraught by not having girlfriends are not the same men that could deal with the consequences of not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:05 PM
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I mean, maybe for redpill/incel weirdos that value relationships over everything. Normal people's issues with society has nothing to do with ddating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:08 PM
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My man, I know you think that all feminists/women are out to get you and manipulate you into cutting your dick off or whatever, but what she's saying is literally just basic logic lol. If more men want sex with women than women want sex with men, and we need to find a way to give all men as much sex as they want, what would be the only way to fix that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:09 AM
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Pffft socialist bullshit😂 you're adorable. And no, I'm saying that having a nuclear family and pair bonding by having a gf is a figment of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:20 PM
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I actually have a high sex drive. I have sex control, though. And can control my urges with masturbation quite easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:18 PM
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Nope, happy as can be being single and sexless. I was lonely for a bit when I moved to a new state and had no friends, but now I'm making friends and life is generally good. I think you're trying to let yourself and other men off the hook for your unhappiness. You want to blame your natural instincts that just demand you find a gf and can't be happy otherwise. But in reality, you're just lonely. You're lonely and you don't know how to do the work to make intimate friendships so you just blame yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:14 PM
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You do realize that the nuclear family isn't a creation of evolution, right? No great apes is naturally monogamous and your desire for a wife isn't some biological mandate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:11 PM
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Your instincts also have no concept of caring about things on the species level, that isn't how evolution works. You evolved to seek sexual pleasure because those that sought it happened to reproduce more, but it isn't like your DNA has an awareness of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:02 PM
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But any mentally healthy human can be more than happy being single. Maybe not as happy as they would've been if they were in a good relationship, but happy none the less. In fact, research shows that the sorts of people that are happy in relationships are also happy single. Basically, the most mentally healthy people are the ones that are fine being single. Being so obsessed with getting a gf that you'd let it just entirely consume you is pretty dumb, lol. It's your choice to make, but acting li…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:00 PM
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We're talking about survival on the individual level, not the species level. If everyone suddenly became sterile that would make every individual human no more less likely to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:51 PM
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The difference is that any healthy human being can be happy being single as romance isn't a basic human right but freedom is. I'm single and have never had a relationship and I'm happy as can be. I don't know whatever this nature you talk about is, but it doesn't exists within me. I'm not aromantic or asexual, but having sex or a relationship certainly isn't a requirement for a good life. Sucks to suck, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:49 PM
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That would make sense, if not for the fact that less young men are asking women out in the last couple of years and more men say they aren't interested in relationships. It seems as gender roles erode, less men put stock in chasing pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:20 PM
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Can't be obsessed with it that much if lots of developed countries are facing a birthrate decline. I'm not trying to insult you, but I genuinely think this is a case of someone who is chronically online not realizing that everyone else isn't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:32 AM
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So do normal men, lol. I don't really think the majority of men hold getting pussy and playing Dota 2 as the most important things in their life. Maybe on reddit, but certainly not the majority of the men I talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:12 AM
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Yet I am the hardest working person the planet chasing vagege. So what I'm saying remains true. For you. None of the men I personally know value pussy to that extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:33 PM
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Have you ever considered maybe you're just lazy in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:06 PM
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Do men pick based on virtues instead of looks? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:50 PM
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Sure, there are exceptions to every rule. I think it's logical to assume in most cases that someone who has had sex more has a higher libido. But you should always speak with your partner to find out for yourself what sort of sex-drive they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 06:43 PM
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Just ignore him, he does this to everyone who answers, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:06 PM
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Claims bad faith but refuses to debate until I delete my post explaining my position, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:42 PM
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I answered, you just didn't like that I provided more information with my answer lol. Again, I leave you with this:
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:38 PM
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I won't delete a post explaining my views because you wanted a one word answer, you won't debate me because you know your position is bunk. We are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:28 PM
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Yea exactly what I thought lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:23 PM
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Lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:20 PM
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You want me to delete my original comment and just put "yes"? Explain to me what me doing that would prove and I'll do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:06 PM
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My answer was yes, what other answer do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:54 PM
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Bad faith = refusing to engage the question or avoiding the question Whatever you want to tell yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:52 PM
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I answered the question, you just didn't like that I provided elaboration. Your "explanation" is dumb. You think that someone providing insight to why they think a certain way invalidates what they think, which is dumb. I'm both engaging in the question and answering it, you just don't like the answer. None of that is bad faith. Explain to me how me answering "Yes, because x" is somehow more invalidating than just answering "yes". Before you repeat "people that are sure of their position don't n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:40 PM
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But we both answered your question, just not in the way you wanted because the way you wanted it answered was stupid. Tell me how us providing an explanation for our answers was in bad faith. Arguing in bad faith is when you're intentionally trying to deceive or manipulate, how did either of us do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:58 PM
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I've just said yes many many times. That I explained why once doesn't change anyrthing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:42 PM
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I've said multiple times I want a high bodycount woman. Me telling you why I want that doesn't somehow erase that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:41 PM
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Your point that people like elaborating their positions when engaging in people debating in bad faith? Uh, congrats, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:37 PM
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Well, it's a dumb thought experiment. I said yes, and then provided information. That takes away nothing from my point. By the way, when you say "you can only answer yes or no", you're implying that answers like "I don't know" or "I don't care" are off limits, not that any sort of elaboration besides the answer of yes is unwelcomed. That's just dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:35 PM
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I'm not scared, I just find it a pointless and childish discussion to go down, but I guess with it can't be helped with people like you refusing to actually argue the point. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:33 PM
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Me providing the barest amount of elaboration somehow invalidates my opinion and means I'm talking shit in bad faith when your entire post is accusing people who aren't bothered by their partner's bodycount of being white knights isn't? Lol. Again, I said yes and then I provided reasoning why because I knew you would try and strawman. I can look through your search history and find you elaborating your position on a million opnions, does that mean you aren't confident in any of them because you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:09 PM
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My response was pretty much: Yes, and that's because I think women having high bodycounts is indicative of having a high sex drive and I'm not jealous of their past. You trying to frame that as me scrambling to justify something I'm embarassed by is pretty funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:07 PM
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I guess it makes sense that a redpiller hates information so much, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:04 PM
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whiteknights still won't touch this one: Do you want a high bodycount woman (only answer with yes or no) People answer "yes" nah you're still whiteknighting LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:59 PM
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He just wants the chance to try and call people cucks, which he can't do as easily if people are given the chance to explain why they think having a higher bodycount is a good thing. Most redpill/blackpill ideology falls apart when held up to actual logic and reason, so its adherents need to try and limit that as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:53 PM
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I don't need to do anything, I just like putting more information out there because I know redpillers hear what they want to hear. Making it clear why I think women with higher bodycounts are more attractive is necessary when speaking to people who's biggest fear is being seen as a cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:45 PM
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Hey, if not being so jealous and insecure that I shit myself at the thought of my partner having fun before me makes me a cuck, so be it. I answered your question with a very clear yes. You wouldn't be so scared of people elaborating on their position if you didn't already know your own position was fueled by insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:19 PM
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You don't get to dictate the terms of the conversation, lol. You asked a stupid question, so a yes or no wasn't sufficient to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:37 AM
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Yes, all things being equal, a higher bodycount is indicative of a high sex drive and sexually liberal ideals, which are a requirement for anyone I date. I would be excited to date someone with a high bodycount and cautious to date a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:03 AM
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2/2 Also… I’m not sure how emotional expressiveness helps. When I was young… which granted I’m a millennial, I needed goals and ambition. I needed to be told I could achieve things and an outline of how to do it. I don’t think I ever felt like I couldn’t cry about my problems, it’s just that crying never helped me. Actually in particular I was on a basketball team at 12 and nobody would pass me the ball because I sucked. I cried about it a couple times that season. Didn’t change anything. My gra…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:58 AM
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1/2 I'm glad you find my perspective interesting! I'd say I'm pretty happy with my life trajectory. I have a part time job I like at a museum and in like two weeks I'm going to attend community college for English with a focus on creative writing. I'll do community college for two years and if I do't fail any classes I have assured admission into a university to get my bachelors. I actually feel like my life is only just starting now, haha! Y'know, when we talk about if men should be more femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:58 AM
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Be careful what you wish for. I could blabber on for ages about this topic haha. Anyways, personally I agree with the above poster that masculine gender roles are what is holding men back in this world. My own personal experiences tell me that the men that are suffering are doing so mainly from a lack of social connection. Studies pretty clearly show that men are much more likely to say they don't have any close friends than women, and when they do have friends they consider close, those friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:53 PM
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Yes, you probably have more porn to cry over, I assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:58 AM
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I'm 19, and I don't see this among the people my age. I think this depends heavily on the crowd you run in. Me and my friends are all super progressive and against any sort of gender role, so most of us actually think the world is moving in the right direction for men and boys like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:40 AM
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Lots of skin care chemicals are anti-aging and will actually make their skin look better than it would've looked if they had just done it naturally. You must be dating women that don't wear sunscreen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:36 AM
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Nope, and women do them anyways and it massively improves their appearances and the perception people have on how how they are. Men should probably start doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:16 AM
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None? But I wasn't talking about onlyfans women or whatever. I was talking about women in general not having leverage because men don't care enough to fulfill whatever requirements they have. I don't really care what pornstars do, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:35 AM
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This response is sort of incoherent. Men wouldn't really care about who women were hooking up with if they were fine being single. They'd just do their own thing and have women do whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:11 AM
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But wouldn't women also lose any leverage if men didn't care if they were single or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:59 AM
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If their issue is not being seen as more attractive? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:49 AM
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Yep, I sure am a big bad criminal. Please don't call the police on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:46 AM
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Hahaha, hilarious. Are you so petrified of porn and convinced it's evil that you think people who watch porn say "let me intentionally seek out porn where consent was violated". The reality is that most people watching porn don't give a shit. They want to see things they find sexy and all other considerations escape them, sort of like iphones. Even if its CNC or weird immoral situations, the vast majority of people watching these situations assume its theater.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:58 AM
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Prude brain strikes again. Clearly you're terrified if you think everyone who watches porn is a mentally ill, brain-damaged lunatic lol. And for the record, anyone who uses iphones has most likely purchased a device that was made using slave-labor, doesn't mean the people that buy it are responsible. And most people watch porn, so "the rest of you" are in the minority with your prudishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:46 AM
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The only one who should be embarassed here is you. If being terrified at the thought of possibly seeing human beings doing something all mammals happily do in front of each other gets you so bent out of shape, I don't know how you can claim you aren't prudish. Its okay, the scary genitals can't hurt you when they're on a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:54 PM
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You're arguing with the wrong dude, lol. I'm the opposite of tough and masculine and I never pretended to be otherwise. You mistake me for the repdill dingdongs in here. But while we're at it, what I'd REALLY hate is to be a prudish woman in a world post-sexual liberation. How does it feel knowing you'll never be able to stop the porn or prostitution industry? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:33 AM
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I don't need to. I can just get the DNA test done, as is my right as the apparent biological father, and avoid any trouble. Unfortunately for you, knowing for a fact that a child that is supposedly yours is actually yours is not the sole right of the mother. You aren't entitled to be informed of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:27 AM
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I don't think snooping on a partner's phone is that bad if you have reasonable suspicion that they're up to no good. Those two scenarios aren't comparable at all. A phone is private property that belongs to one person. But a child's DNA is information that both parents are entitled to regardless of the other parent's feelings in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:56 AM
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Well, at least your imagination is vivid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:45 AM
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Sure, I think anyone who would date most of the opposite gender isn't being discriminatory enough. Gotta have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:23 PM
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How is getting a dna test untrustworthy? Its his child, right? He has a right to know the genetic makeup of said child whenever he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:21 PM
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Meh, my ideal partner doesn't care that much about commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:18 PM
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This is one of the many reasons I can't understand why any man would want the traditional lifestlye. I hate the idea that my worth is reduced down to being a protector and a provider. What a sad existence! I don't value submissiveness or lack of previous partners at all in my relationship and I think those are dumb traits to want in women. I would much rather date a woman who views me as the prize at least as much as I view her as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:16 PM
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Why would a man need a woman if he has to be jury?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:06 PM
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Just because its never happened to you doesn't mean it never actually happens. A lot of women aren't actually attracted to cavemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:37 PM
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I've heard of lots of women say that they asked their current boyfriends out because they were too scared to do it and they thought it was cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:28 PM
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Maybe. I just can't help but feel like thats sort of....pathetic? I can't imagine being so reliant on a group of people's approval that I'll do anything for them despite thinking they're evil. So much of the redpill stuff is so obviously projection that its kinda funny. Look, I'm a man, I hate statements like "all men are x", but anyone who thinks men aren't on average responsible for more horrible stuff in this world is delusional. I don't blame men as a whole for this, I think there are societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:26 PM
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I'm coming to the conclusion that most redpill/blackpill men don't actually believe the stuff they say. They may think they do, but I think that deep down they realize what they say can't be true in an intellectual sense. If they believed any of the things they say about women they would never ever want to be in a relationship with any of them. Hell, I wouldn't even want to talk to women if I thought half the shit they say was true. No amount of pussy would ever be worth having to "manage" anoth…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:04 PM
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Sure, I'll grant you that some people can. My issue is that I think far fewer people than we've been led to believe can, and that most people who could be perfectly happy being traditionally masculine could always be slightly happier if they incorporated certain aspects that are considered feminine. There wouldn't be a male loneliness epidemic or a super high male suicide rate if men were perfectly happy with masculinity as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:26 AM
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I disagree. I'm sorry you're still forcing yourself to obey such an antiquated concept. I have hope that you can break out of it one day!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:16 AM
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I disagree. I think not being able to be happy without being in a relationship just means the rest of their life was so worthless they can't even gleam any other sort of meaning from life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:43 AM
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I meant more so when compared to the manosphere. Have you noticed that despite being a fairly large group, no conservative politican has made a big bid to appeal to incels past talking about family values and shitting on feminism? Its because conservatives can band together around a common cause and fight for their shared values, manosphere dudes can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:34 AM
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The reason they don't catch up as much as progressive ideals is precisely because the people who follow progressive ideals are more able to work together to promote their ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:21 AM
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Their social circles are far more thriving than ours are. I don't understand why whenever I say you should be able to be happy without a relationship, the men in this subreddit act like that would require monk-like self control. I think its pretty easy concept when you get down to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:18 AM
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I would actually challenge you on a few things here. I'm not entirely convinced you prefering parallel play is innate to you and not something that was beat into you over years of societal indoctrination. Sure, some people will genuinely prefer this sort of play, but that doesn't change the fact that it does statistically produce worse friendships than the alternative. I don't think typical masculinity can ever actually bring people together, at least not as much as simply not acting masculine c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:33 PM
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"All x people love y, they only care about y!" "Well, I'm an x person and I actually don't really like y, I would much prefer z." "Lalalala I can't hear you, all x people only like y people!" There is no arguing with these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:56 PM
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I wasn't always like this. I grew up under the same societal constraints that all men grow up in that push us towards seeing our self-worth as dependant on getting a girlfriend. I only came out of it in junior and senior year of high school where I, by pure luck, accidentally managed to become a part of two friend groups. One was all-male and the other was made up of mostly women. Being able to see the difference between how men and women treated their friends and went about forming relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:33 PM
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Who said women weren't interested in me? I've a few women who wanted to be in relationships with me over the years, I just wasn't interested. As for the "masculine script", I think some women like it and some women don't. I'm sure a majority probably prefer it, but I don't like a majority of women so I don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:06 PM
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Again, I'm glad you have an active imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:37 AM
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I didn't do either of those things, but its good that you have such an active imagination!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:35 AM
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If a man saying he's happy without a relationship is self-hating, so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:26 AM
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I can believe that. I think feeling unwanted, both sexually and romantically, can manifest itself in a lot of men as what appears like a burning desire to have sex and get romantic approval, but I still think the base need is feeling wanted, not the sex itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:05 AM
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Genuine question, have you ever been in a relationship before? Yep. Never had sex, but I've been in a few. It was nice, but I could certainly live a happy life without one. And though you may not believe it, you can too. Your life has value outside of the validation of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:01 AM
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I think deep down women desire males that don't need to masturbate 5-6 times a day just to feel normal, lol. And clearly you're not an authority on how to get women to fuck you. Actual studies show that men who do more housework and are more social have better success with women and more sex, so maybe try doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:42 AM
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It is exactly the source of my problems. No, your complete lack of emotional intelligence is your real problem. But if you insist your entire life is only as good as how often you're getting laid then OK. I will never understand how this is not something men aren't embarassed by. I married her cause she seemed like a good girl compared to women in the past who used me for sex and dropped me when I wanted to get emotional or serious. My wife doesn't use me for sex and also doesn't like when I get…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:24 AM
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And that is a problem soley with your wife. Your post history seems like someone who has bad experiences in their marriage and uses that to categorize all women. I think its sad that you think not getting laid is whats making you depressed and that you wont see a psychiatrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:17 AM
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You're right, there is reality. And reality is pretty clear on the fact that women are much more open to emotionally supporting everyone than men are in general. You can call me a virgin all you want, still won't change the fact that I have emotional intelligence and don't live in some fantasy world where all my problems are because women don't like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:10 AM
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You absolutetly can. Women are statistically very happy single, so are many men. The fact that you don't wanna do the work on yourself to be happy is just laziness on your part. But even if that were true, a woman still wouldnn't be required to give men any sort of attention or affection. It would be his responsibility to do whatever she wanted so she decided of her own free will to spend time with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:50 AM
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Doesn't change the fact that its not women's responsibility to fix it. If every man would burst into flames if they couldn't have access to women it still wouldn't be their job to fix lonely men. As much as the men here want to absolve themselves of any responsibility, it will always be soley their responsibility to fix their own loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:44 AM
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Got no money and women have been far more emotionally supportive of me than men ever have. And this is true in general as women provide much more emotional support in general than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:42 AM
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Whatever makes you feel better about refusing to acquire any sort of emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:30 AM
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Women DON'T play a role in it. Women will never be responsible for lonely men being lonely. It will always be up to the lonely man to solve his own issues. Women can be happy single, I as a man can be happy single. Men are just going to need to learn better ways of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:27 AM
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Not when it comes to friendships. If that were the case, they wouldn't have more friends than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:15 AM
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I never said it was easy, but it is certainly possible once you realize that it happened. I live in a progressive city and work in a museum, and all of the men my age there seem to be much more self-aware than the majority of men. I think men like me will become much more common as the years go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:20 AM
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I had a feeling you were from Menslib reading your comments. The only think I will say is most men aren't like you and your ilk. I browse the subreddit but don't consider myself a member. Those guys are far too forgiving of how toxic masculinity is. They aren't nearly radical enough. And I know most men aren't like me, most men haven't broken out of their indoctrination to view relationships as their sole reason for existing. Most men desire relationships with women which necessitates following …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:15 AM
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Every man fears of being seen as one, there is no lol here. I'm a man and I don't fear being seen as a rapist, lol. Most normal men don't. And you're not answering my question. How would women seeing men as rapists stop men from hugging each other? You're bringing up random things that have nothing to do with each other. I don't know what she said but I didn't like it so I stopped. I think taking action without knowing things is the manosphere rite of passage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:09 AM
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Not only us but we are seen as creeps(rapists,molesters etc) by the society Vast majority of men aren't seen as any of these things. And I'm talking about you giving affection to other men. Do other men believe all men are rapists? lol. I can't give anyone hugs even my mom called me out years ago during my early 20s when I used to give her hugs. I haven't hugged anyone since. Weird. I'm a man and I've never been reprimaneded for a hugh, and I'm not good looking or anything. Your mom is probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:01 AM
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The fact that you think a man being able to live a happy life without sex is sad. I will forever be grateful my life actually has meaning and innate value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:58 AM
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True, but it'll be up to us to change that. One of the most freeing feelings in the world is being able to break-free from harmful conditioning thats been beat into you since you were born. If you know that you and lots of other men are in need of more hugs, you should be the one to give them those hugs!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:52 AM
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Then men should befriend other men and start hugging them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:47 AM
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I'm a Gen Z men and the only group of people I feel are persecuting me are the group of people(overwhelmingly mostly men) that insist on pushing redpill ideology and insist its impossible for men to forge intimate bonds with other men. The idea that some dumb tiktok trend about men and bears would be more offensive to me than the actual societal concept of masculinity that is forced on me is hilarious. No one who actually cares about men gave a shit about the men vs bear stuff. That is such a no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:46 AM
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I don't believe you Even if that is true, again, having women not think you're gay shouldn't be worth downgrading your social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:35 AM
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The fact you put enough stock into what you think women think about you to downgrade your social skills isn't good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:26 AM
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Random anecdotes you make up about your life don't disprove the fact that men report having far fewer close friendships than women. You can deride those friendships all you want, but women are much happier with the social lives they build than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:26 AM
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Well, women are statistically proven to have closer friendships, so maybe being "fake" is actually good to a certain extent?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:24 AM
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There is not a single redpill or redpill-adjacent man who gives a shit about men beyond the possible benefits that they themselves would achieve if men were elevated. They'll complain about male loneliness but in the same breathe talk about how they don't care about friendships with other men, or that other men intrinsically lack the ability to emotionally connect on that level (how sad), and somehow women are the callous ones? But that fact that they're so selfish and lack social skills actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:13 AM
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This is the single biggest issue facing men, and most of them don't even realize it. Putting stock in masculinity and the masculine way of acting requires you to make friendships that are objectively sub-par. Having your friendships be based on activities and competition whilst not being able to open up emotionally is a recipe for a sad excuse of a connection. No wonder lots of men are so desparate for a relationship! I was until I realized not having a romantic relationship isn't the same thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:45 AM
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Oh, I have no doubt lots of men feel the same, I know I did once. My point is I don't think its actually an innate inveitable trait in men. I think if men learned to be more social with each other and stop putting women on pedastals then they'd be much happier being single than they currently are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:02 PM
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Again, I think this is a you problem. I have so many things that make my life worth living besides sex. I have friends, hobbies, goals. Sex ranks so low on the totem pole of things that make me happy. If sex is so important to you that life without it would make your existence meager, I just think that means your life isn't very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:54 PM
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Apparently you'd rather be a man with no self-control, lol. To say that being able to not be miserable without having sex means you have low T is a pretty incredible statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:22 PM
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Yes, but now you're being a bit pendantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:16 PM
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The point is that plenty of human men are able to live happy lives without chasing sex from women. I've never had sex in my life and it hasn't really effected me at all. The fact that you can't be happy if you don't have access to women for an extended period of time is honestly pretty unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:15 PM
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Without women we're not satisfied. Without women life is not complete. That's just how it is. I'm a virgin male and I'm perfectly happy without a woman in my life. Sounds more like a you problem tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:46 PM
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Men are not entitled to sex. People are also not entitled to food, shelter or water either One of these things is not like the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:45 PM
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Women are clearly not indiferent towards men as a collective because things like feminism exist. One of the points of feminism was to give women more rights so they weren't systematically forced to be reliant on men. Now, in the west at the very least, men are far more dependant on women as a whole than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:44 PM
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I'm one of those heterosexual men, so you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:42 PM
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But it is there fault if nothing is done about it. Its not their fault if their baby does something dumb, it is their fault if they don't fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:42 PM
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Women initiate the lion’s share of break ups and divorces. They replace men constantly. Women intiate most divorces, but men and women intiate a similar amount of non-marriage breakups. Funnily enough, women are less likely to remarry after divorce, so men actually replace women more often than not. They can stop being single and sexless at any moment of their choosing. This brings emotional satisfaction knowing it’s entirely up to their choosing. But continuously choose not to. It almost seems …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:12 PM
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Why on earth would a woman settle for a shitbag when, according to you, she could instantly replace them? Women deal much better emotionally than men being single and sexless, so to suggest being hot alone is enough to make the majority of women overlook everything else is pretty incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:03 PM
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If only women got their needs met by most hetero-normative relationships. Studies show that women take bigger hits to their income, are abused at higher rates, and are more likely to not remarry after divorce. Doesn't seem like its the great deal for them that you're portraying it as.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:55 PM
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The number of relationships where women earn as much or more than their husbands has been increasing for a long time now. Pretty telling, considering the fact that women only recently gained access to their own finances and finacial equality. If women were so opposed to paying for themselves, things wouldn't be bouncing to parity this fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:53 PM
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Maybe if you're a redpill dude and see everything as a transaction where you're always trying to get ahead. In the real world, tons of couples have equitable 50/50 relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:51 PM
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Women would just be prostitutes if they were only after material and couldn't stand men. I will forever be glad I don't subscribe to the weird cult of misunderstood evolutionary biology that so many redpill/blackpill dudes follow religiously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:50 PM
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I've been masturbating daily for a looooong time and my soul feels better than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:47 AM
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Orgasms for men are a need If only there was a way to have an orgasm by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:45 AM
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We've refined the method for raising and giving birth to children, as well. The proccess of a woman getting pregnant and giving birth is much less perilous than it was in the past. Plus, sperm can now be collected and frozen, and the creation of artificial wombs seems like its just on the horizon. Men and women don't really need to interact with each other that much if they want to produce children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:57 AM
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I'm a virgin, so I'm not the billioniare in your analogy. I have never had sex and I'm completely happy with that fact. You need money to buy resources that are necessary for survival. Sex is not necessary for your survival, it just provides a bit of pleasure. To equate sex with money shows how much you overvalue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:01 PM
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At the very least, it certainly makes you much more prone to being a shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:58 PM
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I like them, too. I just won't be completely miserable without them. I'm proud to be self-sufficient in this regard, but I understand not all men value their independence as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:51 PM
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I've got no idea what you're even trying to say here. But I'm happy to report that I'm trauma-free. I'd actually say that wanting to kill yourself if you can't get laid is a much bigger sign of trauma than anything else, lol. Do you really think being so obsessed with one aspect of life is healthy? Can't imagine any psychiatrist would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:47 PM
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You're the one who brought up me being a virgin, dude. In fact, you're the only one who keeps continuning to bring it up. The fact that basing your entire self-worth on getting laid is sad is true regardless of who is and isn't a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:36 PM
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What a great argument. Sounds exactly like the type of argument someone who was happy with their life would make, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:33 PM
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I've experienced all the things you're talking about except handjobs. They were nice, sure, but I could happily live without them. I've had girlfriends before, it was neat while it was happening, but it certainly wasn't the end-all-be-all. I think if getting kissed, getting handjobs, having sex, and having a woman run her nails down your back are requirements for your life to be worth living, you should realize you could have so much more purpose with your life. All of the things you talk about,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:31 PM
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Go ahead and keep on believeing that. I'll keep on being glad I'm not a slave to my sexual urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:20 PM
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No offense, but I sort of think you're projecting. You said before that having a male sex drive causes near-constant anxiety. I don't think that's normal, at least not for most men. I simply don't have the anxiety you speak of, despite having a pretty high sex drive. If you can't believe that a man can be happy without having sex, I think that says more about you and your life than it does about mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:12 PM
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An adult virgin who's completely fine with that fact. Again, the fact that something so little effects your opinion of someone so much shows that you overvalue sex more than you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:07 PM
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Yeah, I'm not sure how needing sex to the point you'll kill yourself if you can't have it can ever be construed as being better than not needing it that much. But if that works for you, good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:04 PM
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Well, at least your honest. No offense, but I will be eternally grateful that I'm not like you. The thought that I would be so dependant on getting laid to be happy sounds like a horrible existence. Whatever drives some men to need sex to be happy just doesn't exist in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:46 PM
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If men are so depressed from not having sex that they kill themselves, I don't know how redpillers try to argue that women need men more than men need women. If what you're saying is true for most men, then of course women would be the superior gender. You can't live without them, and they can live completely fine without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:33 PM
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I'm a male virgin, and what OP is saying is completely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:30 PM
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Then they can't complain about anything related to dating. They want it more, so of course they should pay a higher price for getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:29 PM
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None of us would be here without throwing spears at animals, either. We don't need to blindly follow in the steps of archaic humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:28 PM
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I'm a guy who has had chances to have sex and refused it. Honestly, sounds like a self contro problem on your end.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:23 PM
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I'm an under 30 male with unfer 30 male sex hormones and I don't care if I get laid or not. Masturbation takes care of the physical need.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:20 PM
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From this basis, overall, being raised solely by women, isn’t as beneficial. As having a father in the home. So, I'm not aware of the science of this, but how much of this is just due to the fact only having one person to take care of you means you have access to less resources? And are the outcomes different when the single parent is the father? For instance, my parents divorced when I was about 9-10 because my mom is a psycho abusive bitch and my dad finally got a restraining order after we ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:25 AM
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I think that men have poor emotional control overall, but I don't think the solution is actually teaching more emotional control. I think what men really need is to be taught healthy ways to express their emotions, how to recognize them, and healthy outlets for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:04 AM
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To be honest? No, no I don't. I think men are taught to hide their emotions more than women, but I think they have them all the same. I think thats why men are more prone to violent outbursts or 4x more likely to die by suicide. I think we have emotions but we are taught not to show them as often, giving the illusion of being emotionally stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:54 AM
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What type of emotion are we talking about? Anger? Probably men? Other emotions? Probably women, but I don't entirely believe this is not in part the result of socialization. I also reject that men and women are monoliths, so even if men were on average less emotional, some men will be more emotional than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:39 AM
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Are you aware that men and women are different? Women tend to be more neurotic than men, so expecting you to be more emotionally stable is just expecting you to fulfill the basic default that you're already born with as part of your gender. Are you aware that all men and women are individuals and don't conform perfectly to their gender stereotypes? Notice the word "tend". People have all sorts of bad tendencies, doesn't mean we expect less of them because a certain group they belong to has certa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:28 AM
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Uh, that bar is so low it's like being expected to not eat to much. If you can't even manage that then relationships might not be for you. Its at least higher than whatever the bar for my partner is, since you are expecting me to by default be better than them in this aspect. But most women do want to feel like they can lean on you when times are tough, and if you're always an emotional wreck, you'll fail that basic requirement. Nothing I said contradicts this. You didn't say men should be emoti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:22 AM
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Do you expect yourself to more emotionally stable today, than you were yesterday? The same? Or less? About the same. Of course there will be fluctuations. Some days I'll be less in control and other days more, such is life. Emotional control isn’t a prerequisite for a relationship. It however is such a beneficial skill, that one should hone it regardless of relationship status. Agreed, I wasn't saying I'm not trying to be emotionally stable, I'm saying that I shouldn't be expected to be MORE emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:54 PM
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I think the thought is less "having hobbies will get you pussy" and more "having hobbies will give you purpose in life so you don't make getting pussy the only thing in this world that matters to you".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:30 PM
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Lol. I'm glad i've made a big enough impression in your life that you care enough to want to see me fall. I, for one, will forget you exist the moment we stop having contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:03 PM
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I think not being able to accurately see what is and isn't toxic is a trademark quirk of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:52 PM
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Nah. I am just burned out on being kind for over a decade and still being treated like a slug on the ground. Again, that isn't something a genuinely kind person would say. Genuine kindness is not conditional, nor is it contingent on getting a sort of treatment back. The fact that you call being kind being wasted effort means you were only kind so you could get something. But I do support you in getting more self-care. I honestly think a big problem with incels is that they don't have any self-ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:49 PM
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he talked about being in an abusive relationship. Most would at least say sorry for his experiences in passing. Some would not talk about it at all You just straight up invalidated it talking about how it s different when men are abusive. He used it as an example to try and invalidate other people wanting to avoid absuive relationships. His entire point was essentially "I went through it and it wasn't bad enough to justify women not wanting to end up with abusers." I pointed out that, while his …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:46 PM
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Then you were never a kind person to begin with. Kind people aren't kind in the hopes of getting something back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:36 PM
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I'm more devoid of empathy than someone who openly admits to hating women? Okay buddy. Whatever helps you feel better about yourself. I will be eternally grateful that all my self-worth isn't contingent on getting pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:29 PM
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Are you unable to comprehend that men could like the company of a woman without the ulterior motive of fucking her? No, because for the men here that is the only reason they ever willingly interacct with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:01 PM
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If someone told me that my worst fear as a man should be to be married to a gross schlob of a woman, I'd tell that man he has no idea how bad things can get if that is literally the worst he can come up with. Yeah, that's all well and good. The difference is that men are much more prone to violence and much more physically able to cause it when they want to. There have been much more men that have kidnapped/murdered their partners than women, so the risks are pretty different. The worst male par…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:57 PM
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I think I would rather be single than be in a relationship where I was just automatically expected to be more emotionally stable than my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:49 PM
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But considering the fact that women are much happier single and deal with breakups much better, I'm not sure them having a high separation rate is really a strike against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:39 PM
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Or maybe the incel weirdos that post here really are that horrifically nightmarish to be around?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:35 PM
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"Telling a man to 'man up' is the gender equivalent of telling a woman to get back in the kitchen." this is a very interesting point and it is sexist telling a man to man up and he's got a right to call it out and complain about it. However I wouldn't quite call it an equivalent, as "man up" is essentially telling men they have a duty to be strong, something that has a much more positive connotation, whereas get back in the kitchen is about women's role as lesser. I'd argue that when you tell a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:54 AM
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Just curious, were any of those men cucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:24 PM
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I know this probably doesn't need to be said, but this guy specifically just refuses to see reality. In a previous post of his he complained about women wanting men to pay for dates, then wouldn't engage with the fact that surveys show more men think men should pay for dates than women. He posted a study that he tried to use to say women don't have empathy for men, when that same study actually showed men have LESS empathy for other men than women do. Nothing will ever convince this dude that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:56 PM
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And they wonder why no one takes them seriously. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:53 PM
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Gotta make sure their offspring get the most vitamin D, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:38 PM
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I have. But I'm not basing my opinion on gay/bi men. I'm just basing it on what I've seen from the men in my family and knowing intimate details of my male friend's romantic life and understanding their motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:05 AM
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Likewise my opnions have been formed from roughly two decades of observation, but I understand everyone has different experiences. Agree to disagree!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:00 AM
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Well, I think those social phenomenon are slowly going away, lol. Recent studies suggest that 45% of heterosexual marriages now have both the men and women either earning a similar amount, or the woman earning more. And I disagree about it being an innate drive to provide for women. Maybe for their children, but I think women have that, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:30 AM
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It’s not a if the situation were reversed thing because it’s a distinctly masculine trait. Men with resources enjoy giving to the women they love, and those women recognizing their worth. Sure, but how much of that is societal and how much of that is innate? All of those songs you listed happened within the context of the culture that we've always had. I think one of the biggest issues with the redpill and all this other stuff is that they assume that all men and women are the exact same. For in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:00 AM
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If you were rich, would you enjoy if your husband/boyfriend valued you for your resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:30 AM
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You are too terminally online if you think women's cheating is more tolerated than male cheating. Men taking mistresses has been all but expected until like 100 years ago. You take dumb articles you see in online women's magazines way too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:55 PM
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Good but they're not the ones people give a shit about. I don't worry about my wife leaving me because it would absolutely kill both our living standards as we need 2 incomes. That's not the case in a lot of marriages and that's a problem when no fault divorce is on the table. But would you want to be married to your wife if she absolutetly hated you? I don't understand how incentivizing people to stay in marriages they don't want to be could ever be a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:26 PM
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I think the only reason redpillers are so focus on personality not being important is because their personalities are so bad that the only way they can convince other people to love them is by being rich. The women that love Andrew Tate don't like hime because of his personality or his looks, I promise you that. Are you disagreeing with how the Redpill describes women here, or are you disagreeing that men are different? Both. I think both men and women love in largely similar ways, and I think b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:24 PM
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But this isn't about men wanting to fight, its about men being forced to. I think two people who don't want to get drafted to die in a war would probably be equally incompetent at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:39 PM
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You can if one person makes a lot more than the other and then you both willingly sign a marriage contract. That's sort of how the entire thing works. If you don't like it, you don't have to get married. You're putting the cart before the horse. Men want to be these things because women find them attractive. Don't do the thing women find attractive is hardly a great strategy. 45% of marriages now have either the man and women making a similar amount, or the woman making MORE than the man, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:35 PM
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That is not all love is lol, are you saying your parents wouldn't love you if you were fat broke and ugly? Obviously romantic love is different, but the thing of value you can provide is a good personality. The redpill specifically says that women can really only love men in the way a child loves their parent(or the way redpillers think children love their parents) and that men are somehow different. Its malarkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:30 PM
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Not filming random couples and basing my opinion of how the entire human race dares apparently makes me a cult member. The more you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:15 AM
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This isn’t exactly what I was talking about but this study showed that women are less likely to want to help men who cry vs women who cry. This is also true of men too. Well, that sucks! I agree that we all need to be kinder to men and our emotions, and that society can treat us really shittily about it. But your study actually says men are way worse about this than women: The most intriguing result lies in the two-way interac-tion between gender of the participant and the depicted per-son when …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:09 AM
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Again, the study shows that men who do an equal and fair amount of chores have more sex. I think you'd be delusional to think that a man who decided that doing the domestic work was suddenly her job would still be considered a capable man that she really likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:02 AM
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The fact that you fight tooth and nail to not do this simple experiment tells me you’re not acting in good faith. Because I won't go into stores and film random couples to try and determine if short men can never find love means I'm not acting in good faith? Lol. To make things clear, you are the one who made this post asking what evidence you’ll need to change my opinion. I am telling you the evidence that would change my mind. Just go out in public and show me examples of non-Hispanic young co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:54 AM
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I’ve heard there are studies that have shown that women lose respect for their man when he cries. I can try to find that. Please do! I'd honestly be surprised if any reputable study proved that. Well forced conscription is currently happening in Ukraine and Israel. Didn't those countries already have conscription? It’s the phenomenon where people don’t want to admit to something negative in a survey. For example, it’s really hard to get someone to openly admit they’re a racist on a survey even i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:51 AM
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That wasn't what the study showed. I don't really think there is a difference to women about if a man is unable to keep his house clean, or he could but just wants her to do it. I also think its pretty delusional to think women want to do chores. Nobody wants to do chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:47 AM
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Because I think basing your opnions of how the world works on "social experients" and pictures of couples taken at certain events is pretty dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:45 AM
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So, you're saying its a redpill beleif that men and women should split household chores equally?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:28 AM
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Most of the time I’ve heard that said by women who had their old time partner finally open up emotionally and she gave the cold shoulder. I sort of don't believe this. Its pretty well known that women score higher on emotional intelligence and empathy than men. Can you give me some examples? Dismantling the draft is unrealistic. A war might happen so we need to be prepared to mobilize in case of that. Its unlikely that forced conscription would be successful in the modern era, as human rights ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:26 AM
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I don't think the redpill would say that gender inequality in household chores done would make women less attracted to men. You yourself just got done saying that you think women lose attraction when men become house husbands, and that its all due to engrained gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:19 AM
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It really depends on what sorts of circles you hang out in. If you're dating women that really value traditional masculinity, then they probably won't, but I think those women make horrible partners anyways. Someone waiting for you to make the first move shows they would be a lazy partner. When I was trying really hard to appear like a dominant guy who was super manly, I never got asked out, because the types of women I would've appealed to were exactly those types to have regressive views on ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:17 AM
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Contrary to redpill belief, men that do their fair share of chores actually have more sex. In two studies, we showed that low sexual desire in women is associated with experiences of gender inequity. In so doing, we have presented the first quantitative support for the heteronormativity theory of low desire in women partnered with men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:10 AM
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I don't think that a lot of these guys realize that when you try your hardest to appear as masculine as possible, you're going to attract women that want that. Once you drop that facade, you can certainly find women that will make the first move or split the check. More and more women are doing both of those by default now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:07 AM
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I mean, in terms of traditonal dating gender roles things are already changing. Most men on here are just wrong when they say that no women make the first move or pay for dates, that hasn't been my experience at all. If you only want super feminine women like these dudes do, then yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:05 AM
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Respectfully, I think you're letting the rantings of a minority of obnoxious women online cloud your judgement of what most women/feminists actually believe. Men sharing their emotions and being vulnerable, “women aren’t there to be your therapist!” I'll agree that I've heard some women say this in situations where its callous to say. But, most of the time I hear women talking about this its about random or not well acquainted men coming up to them and just dumping all of their trauma on them, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:02 AM
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From this article: When a married woman has a career outside of the home, she may opt for less demanding and lower paying jobs in order to appear less “threatening” to her husband. Or, she may choose to focus entirely on child rearing, and work part-time outside the home or not at all. Such women “distort labor market outcomes,” the economists conclude. Moreover, wives who earn more often end up doing more of the household chores, not less. Data from the American Time Use Survey, covering the ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:59 AM
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I mean, what about them? If you record couples in places I tend to think most people look average, men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:48 AM
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You know, interacting with these people is really interesting because I feel like I'm sort of getting the experience of what it would be like to talk to cult members. Just completely sure of things that are obviously false because they really want it to be true. Its fun, but really scary at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:47 AM
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My other Grandparents Marriage was way less dysfunctional than the other grandparents or my parents. Other marriages and experiences dating in college and stuff added to my knowledge base. Ok, but I think its probably a bad idea to use a sample size of two to try and make conclusions about the entire human species. Blue Pill paints a rosy picture. RP doesn't. We are animals at heart. No, redpill paints a delusional picture, blue pill is just not believeing the delusions. And there are some that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:46 AM
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First off, this isn't a study, its a blog post by a well-known conservative website trying to disprove the results of an actual scientific study: https://www.rsfjournal.org/content/2/4/218/tab-figures-data As women's labor-force participation and earnings have grown, so has the likelihood that wives outearn their husbands. A common concern is that these couples may be at heightened risk of divorce. Yet with the rise of egalitarian marriage, wives’ relative earnings may be more weakly associated …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:41 AM
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Its an article with a bunch of studies linked, I'm sorry you didn't feel like reading it. And I don't think the examples you want really prove anything. Of course in environments like dating apps and clubs, where people don't know each other and can often only judge by looks, people will be judged by looks. Looks being the main thing in those scenarios doesn't really mean a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:32 AM
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I am over 40 and was RP from a very early age. It was lived experience of watching my parents and my grandparents marriage that informed me. And yet the experience of watching my parent's marriage led me to the exact opposite conclusions you have. Would a woman with major mental health issues be marriage material? Depends on what they are. Obviously mental health issues are a negative, but depending on what they are I could work with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:29 AM
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Hey man, if you want to keep believing what your subjective experience tells you instead of the actual evidence, thats your perogative. You can read this if you'd rather read some actual evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:27 AM
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If the man makes less money, he's more than likely not getting married in the first place. On top of that, a woman suddenly making more money than her husband is one of the highest predicators of divorce. Both of these are becoming less and less true as more women enter into college and overtake men in the business/earning world. The percentage of marriages where women are the higher earner has increased a lot over the past couple. 45% of marriages the couple either makes a similar amount, or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:22 AM
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Want evidence, type men who got divorced in the reddit search bar and see what men are talking about. Despite what redpill people think, anecdotes will never be aequate evidence. I don't think you want us to start using reddit to shape our view on the world, anyways. You can just as easily find stories where women talk about how abusive and horrible their male partners are/were. Sure, divorce is understandable. But divorce is less likely to happen if the man places himself in a position to choos…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:19 AM
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Whether looks matters 100% or 95%, it’s irrelevant practically speaking. You're right! Its a good thing I never said that. If you have a group of 100 random dudes who are sexually unattractive to women, nearly all of them are sexually unattractive because of their looks and height, not because of their personality. If you have a group of 100 random dudes who are sexually unattractive to women, I'd assume it has to do with a combination of them having both unnatractive looks and unappealing perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:16 AM
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This is actually false. Women are much more likely to end up in poverty after divorce, and their standard of living is much more likely to decrease after divorce despite the fact that they initiate far more often: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5992251/ I assume you have evidence of all the things you say men suffer from divorce at the hands of women, right? Alimony is only paid out to spouses with fewer resources from a divorce. If the man made less money, he'd be entitled to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:04 AM
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I don't think anyone argues that looks don't matter. Obviously most people have physical characteristics they find attractive and are going to prefer someone who has those traits over someone who doesn't. But the black pill seems to suggest that looks and genetics are the ONLY thing that matters and that every single person finds the same things attractive. This is clearly bunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:57 AM
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I don't understand what your studies are meant to prove. The first one says that women who marry as virgins are more likely to not get divorced, which makes sense because women who marry as virgins are most likely religious, and religion tends to frown upon divorce. The second study literally says the opposite of what you want it to: This study suggests that increasing women's education, particularly primary school, could help reduce the rate of divorce among women. To reduce the divorce rate, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:54 AM
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I agree with the parts of redpill that any 12 year old would agree with that the redpill likes to pretend it invented. If the redpill was just generic self-help I wouldn't have an issue with it. The problem is that they sprinkle in batshit insane nonsense along with it. Its good to work out and care about your body? Good. Women are genetically incapable of loving men in the same way men love and all of their love is based on respect? Complete nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:47 AM
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Work on your body (self explanatory) This idea is not unique to the redpill at all. Pretty much any generic self-help advice for men or women will tell you to exercise and work on your body. Keeping frame, women don’t respect wimps who fold. Once again, not being a wimp is advice that is given out pretty liberally to both men and women. “She’s not yours it’s just your turn”. Spent way too much time being sad wondering what I did wrong when it is just female hypergamous nature Not being sad at be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:20 AM
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I think its a bit of a stretch to say that partaking in activities you may not love to meet people is "deceiving others into liking me". You don't have to pretend like any of those activities are your favorite thing in the entire world, just don't be a complete kill-joy. Making friends as an adult male that works full time is certainly nearly impossible if you decide you'll only spend your time doing things you find exciting. I think the same is true for women, honestly. I don't think theres any…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:30 PM
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So you admit it isn't impossible to meet people to be friends with, you just don't want to. I know lots of women that aren't particularly interested in things like knitting or crochet, but learned it anways just to have a social activity to do. I'm not saying you're lazy, but I honestly think the main reason women have more friends than men is because they value company more, and will put more effort into maintaining social ties. Lots of men don't seem to be willing to go outside of what they al…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:05 PM
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I could be misremembering wrong, but if I remember the women that push that book are usually the same ones who argue velhemently against women doing things that men have traditionally done, like paying for dates or making the first move. I think thats dumb, and usually those women are insufferable, but I may be remembering wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:39 PM
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I don't mean to insult you, but I think that says more about the groups you hang out with than anything else. In my experience, its been the exact opposite. In school you're forced to be around certain people, regardless if you like them or not. I friendships made in school to be more similar to how I imagine relationships in prison to be. Friendships I've made at work have been way better because we're both adults that are better at communicating. Again, I think if you believe that friendships …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:33 PM
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I have never seen any woman push that book that wasn't batshit insane. I haven't read it myself, but if it's adherents are anything to go by, it seems like it advocates for essentially women's version of redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:30 PM
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You know, outside of the redpill tradcon circles, its easy to find women that genuinely don't want to get married and would straight up tell you no if you told them you wanted to. I don't understand why the people that want to get married can't stick with other people that want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:28 PM
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There are places where you can survive without making six figures lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:26 PM
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I think an issue lots of men have is thinking of friendships and connections in terms of "status" and "totem poles", that's not how any regular human being should think about these things, and it only really applies in places like school, prison, and sometimes work. I get its hard to make friends, but joining meetup groups or clubs in your area is always something you can do. Forget about women for a second and focus on your platonic connections. Are you saying there is no place a guy could go t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:21 PM
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Sure, I agree its harder for men to make friends than women, but I think its possible if you try to go about it in an intelligent way. Instead of relying on being invited or starting a bowling league or something, I think its a lot eaier to try and join one of the already established clubs/meetup groups in your area. Obviously if you live in the middle of nowhere this won't work as good. And if you have to work yourself to death to survive that also makes things difficult, but to pretend like it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:18 PM
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I don't think apes have agency, haha. I think redpillers think women actually have MORE agency than men. They don't say this, but if you actually look at what they say I don't think you could come away with any other conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:19 AM
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Personally? I'd rather be a sex object that isn't completely dependent on getting validation from the opposite sex to not drive me to suicidal depression, which a lot of redpill men seem to think men are. Don't get me wrong, I think the world they want is worse for women than men, but I think the implications of what they're saying and the worldview they subscribe to paint men in a worse light than it ever could women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:01 AM
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Its funny, despite these guys thinking the redpill is advocating for men, I think the redpill dehumanizes men just as much if not more than women. All of the people here that call themselves redpill seem to believe that men are essentially these big dumb animals that only want sex and whos lives wouldn't be worth living if they couldn't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:52 AM
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If you're talking about the discord for this subreddit, I think I encountered her. For as bad as the subreddit is, the discord is another beast entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:47 AM
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No, but that isn't what the redpill is about in the slightest. The redpill is, at it's core, a group of men who lack social skills/support misunderstanding evolutionary psychology following the advice of grifters that will make them miserable. I don't think I have ever heard of someone who calls themselves redpill actually being grounded in reality. The last thing any man calling himself a redpill needs for improvement is a gf, what they need is more emotional intelligence and a mindset where th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:45 AM
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There isn't any legitimate redpill woman that isn't a grifter/goldigger. The reason you see "bluepilled" men and not redpilled women is the redpill is batshit insane, and the bluepill is anyone who doesn't believe the insanity. The only way a woman would pretend to believe in that stuff is if she was getting something from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:16 AM
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I think its nice you talk to and see your friends so often! But I also think its a bit worrying that you can only cry when you watch a sad movie. I used to be like this my entire life, and I eventually realized it was because I was a bit emotionally stunted/neglected and uncomfortable with my own emotions. I'm not say this is true for you, but I think lots of men tend to just assume they're naturally unemotional when a lot of the time its that we've all been taught to suppress our emotions. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:15 AM
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I'm glad that you have friends that you can tell personal stuff to. Honestly, even though you dropped out of high school, I think that fact alone makes you more impressive than most men. Of those 15 friends, how often do you contact them? Have you ever cried to them? Do you know their plans for the week, or even the month? How often do you guys hang out and talk about your feelings? I think men wouldn't care so much about having a romantic relationship if they didn't essentially rely on one to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:28 AM
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The male prostate is the equivalent of the female g-spot. Deciding to ignore it because its a sex act that gay men also do is pretty limiting, don't you think? Its one of the only ways for men to experience multiple orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:05 AM
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You can scratch your itch anytime by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:03 AM
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No one except for redpill people think men can't have preferences. They just can't be mad if they end up alone because no one wants to meet their often too high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:02 AM
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Are those people truly close friends or just mere acquaintances? I find that male friendships are often distant and low effort, which I don't think is conductive to fostering emotional intimacy or teaching you the skills you'd need for a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:01 AM
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I wonder if being extremely socially underdeveloped due to neglect manifests symptoms similar to autism. Lots of the men here claim to have no friends and no interest in any sort of relationship other than romantic relationships with women, so I can't imagine they've gotten a lot of practice on how to act like normal members of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:59 PM
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I don't know what men you go out with, but if the men around you base their friendships on "status" they're probably the wrong people to try and befriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:56 PM
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And what state is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:24 PM
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