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If they're good at sex, then you could just keep your eyes shut. That's what I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:44 PM
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There's a reason men warn each other not to "stick their dick in crazy". It's because a lot of men do seem to like doing just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:06 PM
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I believe Kanye West recorded one. "Golddigger"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:08 PM
1

I mean I've dated a bisexual man. Out as in "go out with" British for dating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:39 PM
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Ive been out with a bisexual man and I do find the femboy aesthetic attractive, although it's not the only type of man I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:31 PM
2

Send them to me. I like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:03 AM
1

Bad luck then I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:44 PM
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Most men won't go down on a woman they're not in a relationship with. I can't blame them, as there is a HPV risk (but you could get a vaccine guys), but it does mean casual is a bit of a disappointment for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:39 PM
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1 No. It's important to me that my partner has a penis. 2 Yes. Why would I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:58 PM
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They were people in my circle of friends who I got to know over time. I will always choose a man I already know over a stranger on a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:53 AM
4

There might be something wrong with me, but I really enjoyed pregnancy and childbirth. Made me feel incredibly powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:59 AM
19

Older women have just as much to lose reproductively as younger women, more so in fact, as if they pick an unsuitable man to father their children they won't get a second opportunity, whereas a younger woman can have children with a second husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 01:15 AM
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Family men should settle down younger than 35 ideally. If you meet a 20 year old tomorrow, she’s unlikely to want children immediately, plus most people want a couple of years minimum to establish a relationship before children, so you’re approaching 40 for your first child and over 40 for subsequent children. Your sperm is aging too, plus you’re going to be supporting children in your 60s. But if a man is already 35 and wants children, a woman of 30-35 is as good a bet as any, as she will likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:22 AM
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Well you'd use the legal definition of the country in which the offence occurred. I don't see why this is difficult to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:31 PM
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The word is defined in law. Vague is saying things like Burgerland when you intend to specify a country. Or at least that's what I assumed you intended. Your wording wasn't precise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:13 PM
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Are you implying it's an American term? Many countries have a legal definition of sexual assault. Today. In 2026.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:05 PM
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Sexual assault is a legal term with a definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:56 PM
37

I like the physicality of men. Their angular bodies. I like to watch men doing physical things, especially things I’m not strong enough to do. He doesn’t have to be a bodybuilder, but I like strong hands, forearms. I also like it when men do something mildly heroic such as rescuing an animal in distress, donating blood, something that shows they care for others. I find it attractive to hear a man talk about something traditionally masculine, productive and practical he’s good at and enthusiastic…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:06 AM
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Yes. Most men locally make less than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:29 PM
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As far as I can see there is no way to differentiate between divorced parents where the non custodial parent pays maintenance and has access and parents where the other parent is completely absent. Just because a woman is a single mother doesn't mean the father is uninvolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:33 PM
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Whatever men say, their actions tell differently. Men of all ages find women in their 40s and older attractive. They might find young women in their 20s more attractive, but it doesn't mean their attraction is exclusive to that age group
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:28 AM
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Because it’s horrible work for shit money. I make more in a day in my job than most OF models do in a month. And I do actually think it’s denigrating and humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:16 PM
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Rape in marriage was legal in most countries until relatively recently. It was understood in historical times that women had a duty to have sex with their husband and if she refused to do so the marriage could be annulled. Abstinence was not an option for the majority of women, nor realistically was remaining unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:30 PM
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Historically women outside of religious communities could not practice abstinence. A married woman was required to have sex with her husband. Staying unmarried wasn't an option for most women and women often had to marry as directed by their parents. Nunneries could afford to be fussy about who they took and they tended to be women from the upper classes. Often a dowry had to be paid to the church by the novice nun. And in most communities there were significant periods of time between wars. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:16 PM
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Not every man in history fought in wars. Almost every single woman faced childbirth multiple times. And men don't fight wars to protect women, they fight them for access to resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:55 PM
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Yes. He had a Fleshlight
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:22 PM
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My ex husband left me. I refused to do the paperwork for the divorce. I was stubborn and told him if he wanted it, he should do it. It took him 5 years to initiate. I should have done it myself and I can see why most women would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 07:56 AM
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I'd love a bit of male eye candy to do my housework. I'd like him to be younger than me and rely on me totally financially so he can't leave me even when I behave badly. Where can I find such a man? Don't worry your pretty head darling, I'm in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:59 PM
10

Bring it on. I believe it's currently grey sweatpants season. Always a joy to behold.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:22 PM
1

If that were the case I wouldn’t have been struggling today moving an appliance in my kitchen. I’d have called one of my army of simps to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:33 PM
2

Not particularly, but I'm older and there aren't many single men locally in my age bracket. And those that there are seem to want younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:53 AM
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Except I do have trouble with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 04:37 PM
8

I'm not fat. I'm also not in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 04:20 PM
5

Yeah but so are most men as well. I work with lots of men. None of them are in that position with the possible exception of one who is ND and literally never speaks to anyone if he can help it, even when asked a direct question. All the other men at work (age range from 19-61)are either in a relationship, or have had relationships in the past. I'm no different from those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 12:45 PM
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For a woman likes and matches don't mean a lot because a lot of the men auto swipe every profile
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:08 AM
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Yes, but they mostly don't talk. Or stop talking after a few messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:08 AM
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I've had a dating profile on and off for a long time. It's not as simple as ask and ye shall receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:04 AM
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My marriage didn't have any addictions, money issues or mental or physical illnesses but still ended in divorce. He might have been too young to marry I guess at mid 20s. The most common reason I know of for marriages of people I know to break down is infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:02 AM
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Because I haven't been successful in dating for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:30 AM
9

Haha. Options. I haven't held a man's hand in years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:24 AM
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Aw mate, don't you think we unattractive women don't look at what Stacey can get away with and feel a bit of envy? Ofc we do. Life isn't fair. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:18 AM
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Very attractive women can also behave badly and men will still date them, even marry them in some cases. Very attractive people have advantages that the rest of us don't. This is not news. Most people are not attractive enough that they can behave badly and still have people queuing up to date them. Are you just upset that you aren't attractive enough to behave badly? Join the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 09:58 AM
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That’s because curves are feminine. Masculine bodies aren’t rounded in the ideal, whereas feminine bodies are. So the slightly overweight woman is closer to the feminine ideal than the slightly overweight man is to the male ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 09:12 AM
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Neither. Although I would be sceptical about theories relying on the Y chromosome, as men who have only daughters (or only daughters who reproduce) will show as childless when this isn't the case. In fact, thinking about it my uncle had 10 grandchildren, but only one is a boy born from his son. So that's a massive discrepancy if we are relying on the Y chromosome
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:45 AM
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The first childbirth is the most dangerous. And quite often the baby would also die. A woman dying giving birth to a dead first child has no descendants just the same as a man dying before he has sex. The effects on the bloodline are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:41 AM
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I don't discuss such things with other women. It's very vulgar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:19 PM
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No. I wouldn't even do it if I had heritable disease in my genes. In that case I just wouldn't have children, unless adopted. There are additional risks to the mother in carrying an unrelated fetus, there may also be risks to the baby from the IVF process. It's an unacceptable risk in an already risky process for me (pregnancy) when I'm not even going to end up with a child that's genetically mine. If you don't want a woman's genetics in your child for non medical reasons then you shouldn't be p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 09:27 AM
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I don't really want a sex bot. I'd quite like a relationship bot. A bit like the Terminator in Terminator Genysis who goes to live with the single mother
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:34 AM
3

If I turned a man down every day for a week and didn't propose an alternative date I wouldn't be at all surprised if he lost interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:04 PM
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If someone wants to see you they will make plans. It doesn't seem from the details we have that this man was saying - I'm busy this week, how about x day next week. He's just saying no. He has lost interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:35 PM
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If someone refuses to see you for a whole week and doesn't propose an alternative, they don't want to see you. The correct thing to do is move on. She didn't have a hissy fit, she dropped him and moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:17 PM
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Women are shamed for this all the time. Just as much if not more than men are shamed for going for youth and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:55 PM
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What is femininity other than looking like a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:24 PM
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Oh that's a shame. I was hoping my fabulous figure and devastating good looks qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:22 PM
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I've got several children. All supported by my salary from my career. What's your definition of feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:19 PM
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I don’t feel I’m in minority IRL. I don’t know any women socially who are bi, although I do know some lesbians. I think a lot of women who are bi or bi curious only talk about it online, or maybe people who spend a lot of time online are more likely to be bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:58 PM
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I can't speak for other women, but I definitely don't desire women sexually or romantically at all. I wouldn't want to kiss one and I'm not even keen on them hugging me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 04:28 PM
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One of the most beneficial things I think my sons have, and I appreciate this isn't always possible, is an older sister. My boys and their sister get on well and she provides a link into the world of their female peers that I couldn't possibly give them. Through her and her friends they see that girls are normal people, not a separate species and with her being slightly older, they go to her for advice on which are the 'cool' clothes to buy etc. I don't see that getting a son a dating life is my…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 07:57 AM
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That's just weird
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:17 PM
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Probably Ireland
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:08 PM
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If the average woman were mentally identical to the average man she'd be continually pregnant and full of STIs. (Remember sexuality evolved prior to contraception). But the reality is that women are not small men with tits. We all have to live in the world as it is, not how we'd like it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:38 AM
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Are you also depressed because you can't give birth? It's not logical to expect women to be identical to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:17 AM
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That's what I said. Men like to look at women. Women like men to look at them. Win / win. Women are not men and the sexuality is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:11 AM
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If men like to look at women and women like men to look at them where is the problem? Surely both parties are happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:41 AM
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I don't think it's quite as bad for shy women as shy men, but there is a factor that they are less likely to be approached. Women give off flirting signals that socially aware men pick up on and respond to by approaching. Shy women won't do this, so will get fewer approaches and those that do approach are likely to be less socially skilled and hence a bit clumsy and intimidating to a shy woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:28 PM
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You're not wrong - real life probably does work better than apps for men, but you are also lucky enough to live in a major tourist area. Women on holiday are more likely to have a fling than they would at home - they're relaxed, in fun mode and don't have to worry about damage to their reputation.
/r/seduction09/03/25 10:23 AM
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Well we had been in a relationship for about 5 years, we were late 20s and had a discussion about our future and as a result decided to get married. We came to this conclusion by mutual consent and it wasn’t a romantic gesture. I believe my parents were similar. They were courting, as it was called then and my mother started to say “when we get married” and my father started thinking “ oh we’re getting married then” and just went with it. Although this was at a time when it wasn’t considered res…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:25 PM
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As far as I'm aware there are no laws about some of this stuff, so you're arguing about social niceties. I can only speak for myself, but I do and have paid for dates. The last date I went on was a first date. I suggested the venue, arrived early and when he arrived I bought us both drinks. It's fairly common for me to do this. I'm not American, so idk if this is a regional thing. As far as assault goes, it is illegal in my country to respond with disproportionate force. So a man is fairly likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 02:46 PM
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The kinds of women who like those sorts of men are either very young and naive, possibly indulging in a bit of rebellion to annoy their parents, or they are the female equivalent of the men in question, brought up in that environment and it's normal for them. Grown women from stable backgrounds do not like criminal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:34 PM
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Question for you. If we accept that for a hetero man, sex with another man is a reasonable disqualifier because it gives disgust, then what about sex with a really unattractive woman? Imagine a woman who is unhygienic, obese (assuming you don't have a fetish for that), very ugly, 80 years old, or whatever else you don't find attractive. Do you still value sex if it has to be with that woman? Is that a reasonable disqualifier?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:51 PM
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Before online dating was even a thing, women had self help books about how to find a husband. A famous example was called "The Rules".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 08:23 AM
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Idk I always fall for men who are even slightly friendly to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:45 PM
1

Do you understand what schizophrenia is? It can lead to loss of capacity to make decisions, especially if not adequately controlled by medication. It's not a mental illness in the same category as depression for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:49 PM
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London area UK
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:26 PM
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What do you mean "motivated by women"? Do you mean motivated by sex with women? Most people already believe that, it's obvious. No one cares about that. It doesn't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:44 AM
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For a start, ND doesn't always mean quiet and quiet doesn't always mean ND. But I'm interested in how we define dating success also. While ND women may not have as much trouble in getting dates as ND men, I'm not convinced this means they are "successful" romantically. I know a ND women who has had a string of boyfriends. On the face of it a man might measure that as success. But what it actually means is that she can't filter men effectively. She appears to be hopeless as spotting liars and oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:14 AM
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Lots of women aren't on the apps at all. The men massively outnumber them, hence most have to be filtered out somehow. I'm a bit too old to be representative, but of the younger 20 something women I know through work and family the vast majority never used the apps and they are mostly in relationships with men they've met IRL. The young men they are with appear to be perfectly normal, not wealthy, or with supermodel looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:28 PM
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Well I've had some absolutely shocking opening messages from men on the apps. The kind of thing that no one would say to a person they didn't know IRL, unless she were a sex worker and they were trying to engage her services. No man IRL has ever approached me in this way, but numerous men online have. So yes, I think the apps are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:55 PM
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Idk alimony isn't really a thing outside of the US and from what I hear even within the US only a small percentage pay it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:34 PM
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Hairdressers, childcare workers, retail workers etc all tend to be happy to date tradesmen. Also some of the more practical graduates such as nurses.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:47 PM
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The only one that's a deal-breaker is the weight. Assuming they are fat, rather than muscular. The having no hobbies and reading no books might make them a boring friend tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:02 PM
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Probably 9/15. I think age is a factor tho. As you get older you have had more opportunities. If I'd done this quiz as a teenager I wouldn't have scored so highly. Plus I'm quite old now, so I grew up and was a young adult in an offline world. Things were different then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:41 PM
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Sure it is. Like anything else some women choose not to compete, or they feel secure enough not to compete. So you get loads of people saying "I don't / my daughter doesn't do that" and maybe she doesn't, same as some men don't bother to try and flash status either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 02:05 PM
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It's also why a very high status woman can get away with not wearing anything looks enhancing. Similar to a very wealthy man not needing to advertise his wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:42 AM
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Yes. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:38 AM
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Looks are status for women. Women who want to show off their status dress to show off their looks to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:07 AM
2

I have several family members who had children in their late teens and early 20s most were in a relationship with the father, but unmarried, some were never in a relationship with the father. All working class. Following the breakup with their child's father, all got into another relationship fairly easily and had further children. Most are still in that relationship, living with their partner as though married. None are married but marriage isn't really a thing in that demographic. The women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:40 PM
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Humans are a very very successful species. We out compete almost all other species, we exist on every continent. The reason for this is we are extremely adaptable. We can eat almost anything, tolerate a wide range of climates and exist in a variety of social structures. Our big brains enable us to adapt to almost every environment. One of the ways we adapt is that we can change our mating strategy to enable the most surviving offspring whatever the situation. So it's impossible to point to a sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:53 AM
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There are a few women who enjoy it, some women are lucky enough to orgasm easily but they aren't the majority. People who have casual sex tend to have it within the pool of other people who have casual sex. It's not really a majority pursuit for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:30 AM
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Keep telling myself what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:14 AM
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The majority of women don't enjoy sex with strangers, no. Sex for a woman isn't the same as sex for a man. Most men can orgasm during casual sex. Most women can't. So casual sex for most women is just an opportunity to pick up an STI, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:53 AM
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Most places aren't in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:55 PM
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It is legal in most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 12:02 PM
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I've known quite a few men who will get violent with other men who have fucked their wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:14 PM
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No. I believe men when they say how bad the experience on dating apps is for them. I don't know why men think we don't know this. We do know it. And I don't really want to mess genuine daters of either sex about by LARPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:41 AM
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I think the problem is men, especially young men, have a stonking great sex drive. And it's fairly indiscriminate. Even women with a high libido usually only have it for a particular man they really like. Men just have it there all the time, ticking away and it leads them to make bad choices. If men could get sex regularly without a relationship, they wouldn't settle. As we can see by celebrity men who do have this enviable situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:06 AM
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I don't have a problem with gaming unless it's excessive, but it isn't an especially attractive hobby for a non gamer because it's very unproductive. If a mans hobby is classic car restoration, for example, there is a tangible result that can be appreciated even by the non hobbyist. Similarly most men would appreciate the results of a woman's hobby if it was creating art, or baking rather than scrolling on social media. Gaming is also pretty immersive, so a lot of people will just ignore everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:19 AM
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It's still not news that an attractive man has options, whereas an unattractive one might not. Everyone judges on looks to a certain extent. Yes, men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:38 PM
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Even for women, the more attractive you are the more opportunities you get, especially high quality opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:05 PM
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Newsflash - physically attractive people get more romantic opportunities. Who would have guessed?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:14 AM
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Aren't those studies based on tracking the Y chromosome tho? So a man who had only daughters won't show up in such a study. If you think about it, a family tree where every man had at least 1 son who went on to have a son every generation is not inevitable, although probably more common when people had lots of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:33 PM
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I got permanently banned from r dating for participating here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:55 AM
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I don't think anyone has asserted that women will fuck anything. Just that (some) men will.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:25 PM
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"Men will fuck anything " is the exact opposite of female validation. It's saying - don't get above yourself, just because he's willing to fuck you, he still thinks you're trash and probably won't be seen in public with you Sex on its own isn't validating for women, like it is for men. It's validation for men precisely because women are generally more choosy about who they have sex with. So if she wants to have sex with him, he knows she sees him as attractive. The same can't be assumed in rever…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:06 PM
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Well yes, ofc. There is some tact required in turning a woman down tho. No need to be rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:12 PM
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Men don't like women, they like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:57 PM
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How many fathers would be willing to send their daughters over to the house of another man they don’t know without being present themselves? I’m willing to bet it’s a thing men worry about too once they have children. Are those men sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:41 PM
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I liked Emil best, until I heard about the dark past. If he robbed a car as a teenager and hasn’t been in trouble since that would be ok, but if he used to beat his wife or cheat on her, then no. Julian also sounds nice. I don’t like the others because I wouldn’t want to date a lawyer or an entrepreneur. Both careers attract slippery, arrogant types.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:26 PM
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Attractive women without kids have no need to be on a dating app. They get plenty of offers in real life. Single mothers turn to dating apps because they can't get out enough to meet people and get offers of dates and relationships. Hence, the majority of attractive women on apps are mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:00 AM
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The men who do, and there are plenty who do, are certainly less hysterically terrified of it than women, despite the fact that men are far more likely to be a victim of violence at the hands of men than women are likely to be a victim of violence at the hands of men. I think this is worth exploring. Im not trying to be an arse, arguing for the sake of it, but i think this is interesting. Yes, more men meet violence at the hands of other men than women do, but one could argue this is precisely be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:06 PM
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I didn't assume he was a serial killer. I never mentioned serial killers at all. I assumed he was probably thoughtless and pointed out that he might be a boundary pusher or assailant. And most men with any sense wouldn't meet a man they didn't know in an isolated spot either. Are they all hysterical and prejudiced too? The ratio of car crashes to murders is irrelevant, as many more people travel in cars every day than meet strangers in isolated locations. I dont think im the one who has a proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:19 PM
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There isn't really an acceptable reason to not understand that a woman shouldn't meet a man she doesn't know and has never met before in an isolated spot. That's not "not being perfect" that is actually stupid & asking her to be reckless with her safety. There is no excuse. There are plenty of men who are astute enough that they wouldn't meet an unknown man in an isolated area for any reason either. We haven't assumed automatically that the man is option 2, but we have correctly assessed that at…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:42 AM
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Because there are 2 options. Option 1 - he's just not thought it through properly. Vast majority fall into this category. Not dangerous, but thoughtless. But Option 2 - he does have dubious reasons for wanting to take her somewhere secluded. Either he's an assailant, or he's a controlling man who is testing her boundaries for future reference. These men are much less numerous, but they are extremely dangerous. If the obvious issue is pointed out to them, they will pretend they are an option 1 ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:40 PM
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I think I have this. It goes beyond dating, no one will sit next to me on a bus for example unless it's the very last seat available. And yes I do shower and I don't think I'm ugly. I'm just unapproachable with resting bitch face. I'm also older now, but it's been this way since I was young. I have had men ask my friends on more than one occasion whether I'm a lesbian. I'm not a lesbian, but I think what they're picking up on is a lack of approachability - I don't do the subconscious cues that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:08 PM
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I like Adam the best. However I'm not American, so I don't know how big a deal being a Trump supporter would be irl. I'm not right wing myself, so maybe I'm naive about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:20 PM
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What on earth are you talking about? The strength difference between the sexes is biological. It is plain to see, everyone can see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:55 PM
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Almost all men are stronger than me, and the same can be said for most women. Even a skinny 5ft 6, 17 year old boy is stronger than most women. Only a very fit, strong woman would be able to beat him in a strength contest. Whether he's 6ft 4 or 5ft 4 he will be stronger, so it doesn't really matter which a woman chooses from a safety perspective...- except from the aspect of being able to protect her from other men. In that respect bigger and stronger is better. Hence the female preference for b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:48 PM
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If he's good at practical things. I love a skilled manual worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:18 PM
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Women tend not to have as strong a sex drive as men, nor is it as indiscriminate as a man's. So if she's happy with her man and everything is working out, she is less likely to bother with purely sexual encounters. Women who cheat tend to be women who are unhappy in their relationship. Yes some women will go for the extra martial sex, but I would guess it would be lower than the percentage of men who would, especially if both sexes have equal opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:08 PM
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He also has the advantage of keeping a good figure. Men like that at his age are few and far between.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:46 PM
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He's an interesting one because as a player he wasn't generally considered one of the hottest. But now he is around 50 a lot of women (and men)! do find him attractive. https://newsthump.com/2018/07/04/is-it-me-or-is-gareth-southgate-getting-progressively-more-sexy-enquires-everybody/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:41 PM
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What about a young Gareth Southgate? Now the England football manager. https://www.alamy.com/gareth-southgate-footballer-for-crystal-palace-fc-gareth-southgate-joined-crystal-palace-fc-as-a-youth-team-player-in-1988-in-the-19934-season-he-captained-the-first-team-and-left-in-1995-for-aston-villa-during-his-time-at-crystal-palace-he-scored-15-goals-in-his-152-appearances-picture-taken-6th-august-1992-image466420354.html
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:27 PM
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It's quite difficult to find average people in the public eye. Possibly a young Robert Carlyle might fit the bill. He can appear good looking or not depending on the character he plays, but he isn't traditionally handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:09 PM
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I was going to say that Rupert Grint who plays Ron Weasley in the Harry Potter films is an example of an average man, but I've just googled his current image and he seems to have had a glow up. Now I think he's a good looking man. I do have a weakness for ginger hair on a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:06 PM
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It seems a bit extreme that the "rate me" scale puts Simon Weston at the bottom. He was a perfectly OK looking man who then had bad facial scarring. While it does affect his looks, he's not as low on the scale as that. I think we do perceive imperfections such as scarring with more leniency , possibly because we know its not genetic, so won't be passed on to offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:55 PM
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He's really good looking. I think there is a problem with AI generated "averages" because they smooth out imperfections and are quite symmetrical, so end up more good-looking than a true average.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:51 PM
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Women who knowingly go out with married men don’t usually intend to share him. They intend to have him leave his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:11 AM
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I have helped strangers before. So have lots of people. The difference is that young attractive women will get more offers of help from men, just because they are young attractive women. Pregnant women or women with a baby don't get those "pretty privilege" additional offers. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. Or that anyone owes anyone anything. It just is. A fact of life. You are the person putting a value judgement on it, not me. Attractive people of both sexes get preferential treatment fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:05 PM
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You can assume whatever you like, but it's best not to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:10 PM
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It's a neutral thing. I'm merely stating what happens. Not putting a value judgement on it. In the context of the previous poster saying that noone helped her when she was struggling with her pram.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:30 PM
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It's because you're pregnant and / or with a baby. Men literally don't see you in those circumstances. They only see women they rate as fuckable. I'm old enough now to be less visible, but I remember when I was younger noticing how I was invisible to men when pushing a pram. It was very noticeable how I became visible again when out walking without my baby. Men would look at me and sometimes smile, whereas they never looked at me when I was with my baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:59 PM
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A butterface is a woman who has a good body but her face is ugly. As in "she'd be hot but..."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:41 AM
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I know a woman over 6ft. She is young and slim. I can confirm she does get rejected for her height. Online a lot of the men are deeply suspicious of her. They match, presumably because they haven't read the profile properly, quiz her about her height, then fade away. One outright told her before he ghosted that if he met her it would be obvious he'd lied about his height.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:35 AM
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I know a woman over 6ft. She is young and slim. I can confirm she does get rejected for her height. Online a lot of the men are deeply suspicious of her. They match, presumably because they haven't read the profile properly, quiz her about her height, then fade away. One outright told her before he ghosted that if he met her it would be obvious he'd lied about his height.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:35 AM
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High status men prefer high status women for relationships. Status in a woman can look different from status in a man. High social capital - excellent social skills and a high status social circle. A woman with good social connections is attractive to a man, especially if he can use these connections to his own advantage or they reflect well on him. E.g. George Clooney and his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:50 PM
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I assume you prefer single mothers then? Their fertility is proven and undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:57 PM
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I would expect that the real women on the apps are those who don't get much attention irl. If you think about it, if a woman gets approached irl by suitable men, why would she bother with the apps. So those on the apps don't have many real life opportunities, which may be down to looks, or something that means she doesn't go out much, such as being a mother to small children. The bikini models aren't on the apps to date, they are bots or OF promotors. Hence the divide where the average women don…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:20 AM
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They're not thinking of sex specifically tho are they? Like being rich was mentioned also by the poster I was replying to, but there is no reason a rich man would be better at sex than any other. The question was specifically for sex. And specifically for sex a big difference in height isn't an advantage. You are thinking much earlier in the process. You're thinking the man has more chance of getting sex if he's tall. I'm thinking that once a man has a sexual partner sex will work better if the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:06 PM
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During a couples first time having sex together it's not unusual for the man to climax quickly, even if hes not a virgin. It's due to the excitement of a new partner. Often he can get hard again quite quickly and go again. It doesn't have to be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:30 PM
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It will only go in so far. The rest of the length is wasted. But girth is exciting. Stretches everything out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:26 PM
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Girth is more important than length for functional reasons, although length is visually good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:18 PM
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For sex it's best not to have a huge height difference between the couple. It affects things like being able to kiss during sex. Many positions are easier if the man is no more than 4 inches (or less) taller than the woman Women who like very tall men aren't liking them for sex act reasons. More for general attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:15 PM
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If you're good enough at foreplay and oral you don't need to last very long during actual penetration. In fact I prefer a man who climaxes almost straight away to one who bangs away for ages and can't climax. Men who take ages to climax are really frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:09 PM
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It's irrelevant. I can't outrun the man either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:39 PM
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My post is factual, can’t vouch for anyone else’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:36 PM
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Well aren’t you lovely
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:27 PM
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What if you don't stay married? It's very possible to be married in your 20s then single at 40
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 07:18 AM
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There's probably more women over 40 than under 40 in countries with a low birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 07:14 AM
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Man A, but preferably without the tattoos because I'm not keen on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:04 AM
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Don't worry, we'll manage
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:38 PM
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The comment we are replying to expressly mentions the biological clock and babies. I know what the wall is supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:08 PM
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If we are talking women still young enough to have children, which we are as it refers to the biological clock; the fuckboys are still calling. They carry on calling older than that too, although that is more dependent on how well preserved she is for her age. A woman who was average or even below average in her youth can do better than others her age if she's kept her figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:18 PM
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The fuckboys never stop calling. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:32 AM
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Your job can, but if you have a career you can get another one. In any case most people have to work to gain assets
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 07:53 PM
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Because I've been dumped by a husband before and I wouldn't leave myself financially vulnerable if it were to happen again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:05 PM
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No worries
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:48 PM
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Which man? The man in the OP? As I understand it he's not working, he's living off passive income
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:30 PM
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Why is it unbelievable that people should have compatible lifestyles? If you're going to build a life with someone that's very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:20 PM
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Well the OP says he just does chill stuff all day, so I'm assuming not. If he were actually running his own business rather than living passively off assets then he probably wouldn't have time to just chill all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:19 PM
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In the scenario OP outlines above I don't think you do. In any case I do not want a relationship where anyone has financial control over me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:45 PM
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I would never give up work to live off a partner. They can wake up one morning and decide they're done with you and want to break up. Then where would you be - no job, no career progression, no recent work history, having to start again from scratch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:40 PM
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Nah, I'm not going off to work every day while he just enjoys himself. He would get frustrated that I can't do stuff with him, I would get resentful that he's not working. It's not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:38 PM
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No. I have a full time job and will continue to do so until I'm 67. He presumably will want to spend time travelling and pursuing leisure activities that I can't accommodate. Our lifestyles are not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:19 PM
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Men who have casual sex never think about that sort of stuff. They really don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:38 PM
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It probably means they like you but they aren't interested in a ons. They want a relationship ideally and they are aware that if they shag men too soon, the man will likely walk. Either that or they suddenly come to their senses and realise that it's not a good idea to go home with a man they don't know for safety reasons. A lot of women just aren't bold enough to do that, so they get scared. The 'sex just happened' women are the bold ones. If they are women you'd be interested in seeing again a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:33 PM
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In my experience, yes. I'm not fat or ugly, but I'm older. When I was on the apps, I got lots of low effort offers of sex. None of those men wanted a relationship with me, even men my own age, as they are still trying for younger women. A lot of men expected me to come over to their house straight away for sex, like a sex worker. Or even worse, drive to their house, collect them and then drive them to mine for sex because they didn't live alone. I refused these offers and I no longer use the app…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:41 AM
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To a fat ugly girl our average guy might meet her raised standards. Chad isn't going to bother with her even for casual. He has better options. But the man who will shag her won't date her. And he's not quite hot enough to meet standards for Ms Average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:22 PM
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Men drop standards for casual. Sometimes massively. It's very possible he can't get a relationship because none of his casual partners meet his standards for that. So he could get in a relationship with one of those yes, but he'd be too embarrassed to be seen in public with her, because she's obese, ugly, a lot older or some other trait that doesn't meet his relationship standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:58 PM
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Or he's not willing to be seen in public with the type of woman he will have casual sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:15 PM
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I don't worry about it. It's just biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:02 AM
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I've been lifting weights in the gym for nearly 2 years and it's fairly common for a skinny 16 year old boy on his first gym visit to lift heavier than me. It's just biology. I don't compare myself to the men in the gym, it's pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:17 AM
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Charles as a young man did have a decent body. Google some pictures of him topless. He's slim and has some muscle. Admittedly he has never had a handsome face and being a Prince is a major plus point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:40 PM
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I've done it a couple of times and it was mainly because I just wanted someone to touch me. I was lonely and touch starved. For a short time I got to feel another person's body next to mine. I stopped doing it because I found that men who have casual sex aren't very keen on close, touchy sex and tend to leave immediately the sex has finished. Ofc sex in a relationship would have been better, but that wasn't an option for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:41 PM
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If you think women are mean to men, that's nothing compared to how mean they can be to each other. They tear each other to shreds. It really makes me laugh when people talk about how women have these fabulous support networks. I'm not saying it never happens, but often what looks supportive on the outside is more like a power struggle. Women are often much more supportive of their sons than their daughters and relationships between mother in-law and daughter in law or sisters can be downright vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:05 AM
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So how would you propose dealing with assets when someone dies without using the law? Do we have to fight for them? The last person standing gets the lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:24 PM
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You've not seen the film "The Full Monty" have you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:32 PM
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25 is a bit young, but it's not uncommon to be traded in for a younger model after 40 and having kids. Happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:34 PM
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I like skilled tradesmen. Mechanics, plumbers, construction workers. It's a mix of being strong and knowledgeable about a specific subject that I find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 11:00 PM
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I wouldn't know, I'm shit at make up and rarely wear it. When I do, its just a bit of mascara and some concealer on my dark circles. I don't look like a different person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:37 PM
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I've dated a man who was using a kind of spray to cover up his hair loss. He later had a hair transplant. He was quite open about it, and it didn't bother me at all. I've met numerous men who claim to be 5ft 10 and I can look them directly in the eye when I meet them. I'm 5ft 6 and don't wear heels. Doesn't bother me. I'd have met them if they had said they were 5ft 6 anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:32 PM
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It's there if you seek it specifically. But there is no more of the casual socialising people used to do. When your home entertainment options were either watching TV in the living room with your parents choice of channel or reading a book, most people did go out a lot more than we do now. Yes, even introverts. And when you got to the pub, people weren't all sitting with their faces in phones. People wanted to talk to you. Nor were any indiscretions liable to be filmed and shared for all to see.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:32 PM
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The vast amount of home entertainment available in the Internet age has destroyed real-life socialising and social skills to the detriment of both sexes. It's not something the individual can stand against easily. It's very difficult to try and be sociable irl if there are very few others doing the same and very few places to go to do it. Online dating is an inferior replacement for the real-life socialising past generations had access to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:37 AM
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The most certain bet for a fertile woman is a young single mother. She has proven fertility and could probably have several more children, but RP don't want to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:16 PM
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They take it better from other men. They frequently get outright aggressive from perceived criticism from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:49 PM
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My friend dated a man who was married with children. She split with him, but later he was convicted of bigamy as he had met and married another woman while still married to his wife. There were no children in this second marriage as he was caught and met by the police on returning from his "honeymoon ". He had told the original wife he was on a business trip. So it happens. Arnold Schwarzenegger is a famous example of a parallel life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:54 PM
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I have done. It wasn't a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:07 PM
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It's also worth noting that a man who has only daughters shows as sexless in such a study. My father had children and grandchildren, but in a study that tracked the Y chromosome he would show as childless because he had daughters and no sons. There have been studies that showed lower status men tend to father more daughters than sons, although it's unclear how this mechanism can occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:59 PM
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That study could be held as proof that the invaders killed all the local men and their male offspring, not that the women chose the invaders over the local men. Prevalence of a Y chromosome from a particular group does not disprove that other men did not reproduce, as any daughters born from other men do not show up in the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:10 PM
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I guess I'm thinking of a more mature technology where the AI boyfriend has a physical element too. An actual human-like person who loves you unconditionally, will always be nice to you and is easy on the eye. Who wouldn't want one of those?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:47 PM
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The young women today are the grannies of the future. They have grown up with tech and will continue to use it. People in their 60s now are also quite often a lot more adept with tech than you might think. A lot of them were young adults when tech first took off. Those who are oblivious to tech are more towards the 80+ age bracket these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:50 PM
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Not usually as a boyfriend. Young men tend to only be interested in sex with older women, not romance. And it depends how much older they are. Plenty of young men will sleep with a well preserved 40 something. Far fewer are interested in a 60 something grandma type.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:09 PM
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Because men are the most numerous users of technology such as video gaming, and I guess it isn't such a stretch for them to imagine an immersive AI experience. They are already more comfortable in interacting with technology as though it were human. Women are less likely to suspend disbelief and feel more conscious that it's a machine, not a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:35 PM
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Well that wasn't.the entirety of the post. Older women outnumber older men, so there is an issue there that isn't necessarily due to them being picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:29 PM
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I think we need to ask what people think these AI boyfriends and girlfriends will do. Are these people searching looking for a chat experience, or do they really want a human like robot who will provide sex? Is there an AI boyfriend market for gay men? If not, why not? Yes gay men mostly can get easy sex, but do they want the relationship experience? Possibly, people wanting a relationship think probably correctly that the technology just isn't there yet. Whereas people who just want sexting - i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:59 AM
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I think a lot of people with unrealistic standards don't really want a relationship. They put these big standards in place as a blocker so they don't have to admit to themselves or others that they have difficulties getting close to anyone romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:15 AM
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No they don't. They will sleep with the McDonald's cashier but they won't marry her or publicly date her. A successful man wants a wife who won't embarrass him in social settings, which means a wife of a similar social background to himself. He also doesn't want his children brought up by an uneducated mother. He might marry a lower earning woman, but she will be educated and have a career before marriage that has some status, even if not well paid. He will marry a teacher, but not a cashier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:41 PM
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Do whatever you want. I would date much younger men if I could. Youth is attractive. But you have to accept that not everyone will approve, including her family and this can make a LTR difficult. So you have to take that on the chin. As long as she is an adult, you are allowed to date her if she consents. And other people are allowed to have an opinion on that. If you're confident you are morally ok, then that shouldn't trouble you. If it does trouble you, then that indicates you're not totally …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:03 AM
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A man with less money? Yes and I have done in the past. No problem with that. Unemployed? No, unless it was a very temporary situation. I don't care what job he does, but he has to have one. I also don't want to date early retired people or similar, irrespective of how much money he has. That's an incompatibility, as I work full time and aim to do so well into my 60s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:58 PM
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George Clooney is rich and famous. He could marry whoever he wanted. He picked the lawyer. And not just any lawyer. A very high powered lawyer who can boost his image in the eyes of Hollywood elite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:24 PM
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Yeah. George Clooney picked the hot lawyer
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:20 PM
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From my own experience out of lots of matches, no man wanted a relationship with me on tinder and the whole experience left me feeling grubby. Some of the messages are absolutely grim. I've given up with it. I am divorced, however, rather than lifetime single like some of my friends, so I'm not someone who was never able to get a relationship, I just don't have one now and am unlikely to do so again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:44 AM
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They've now aged out of the dating scene. Tinder wasn't about when they were younger. And realistically there is no way they would have the confidence to meet and have sex with a stranger from the Internet, which is all tinder would offer them. They would actually be afraid and disgusted by the casual sex market. Relationships was what they wanted. Edited to add - most women won't touch tinder. There's a reason most men don't get matches - there are hardly any women on there. It has a terrible r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:11 AM
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Without providing too many details, the women I'm thinking of tend to be shy. They did go out but weren't gregarious. One has a minor disability and this has affected her confidence. I am not discounting that most men have to put in effort to date. What I am arguing is against the "all women can have a relationship just happen" premise that was in the OP. This isn't a thing that works for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 06:11 AM
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Then these single ladies I know must be a figment of my imagination? They may not be as numerous as their male equivalent, but they do exist. If you are not a conventionally attractive woman and you wait for a relationship to " just happen when you're not expecting it" as per the premise in the OP then you could very well remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:36 AM
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*never got much interest from guys who were suitable for a relationship. If you are seen as a below average woman and your self esteem isnt great, then you are more likely to find that any approaches are from men who wish to take advantage of that to use you for sex only. A lot of these men are married and looking for an easy bit on the side. One lady I'm thinking of, the only approaches I ever remember her getting was from a married man. I honestly don't remember her ever getting approached apa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:31 AM
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So the single ladies I know who don't get male interest don't exist? I can assure you they do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:34 PM
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I never said they were average. I said half of women are below average. The premise of the original OP was that women, most women find partners without looking. Which isn't the case for a below average looking woman without good social skills. The comment I replied to specifically referenced attractive women. Which isn't all, or even most women. No-one is arguing that attractive women aren't approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:13 PM
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At least half of women are below average. Men don't see those ones. I know a few single women who've never had much interest from men, and now they've aged out of the dating years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:08 PM
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Contagious illnesses etc are not sex specific- both sexes suffered these equally, childbirth is. Married women had to have sex with their husbands and this sex produced pregnancies. Whether they wanted them or not because contraception was rudimentary at best. Each and every pregnancy was a life threatening event and still is for some women, but even more so in historical times. Women frequently bore 8-10 children, plus having miscarriages- another life threatening event.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:36 PM
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In times before modern medicine women had more risk of dying in childbirth than men did of dying in battle. Almost every woman had lots of children, lots of men never saw battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:24 PM
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I wouldn't say that peaking at 18-21 is true for either sex. I'm a woman and when I look at pictures of myself at 18 I had a rounded baby face without visible cheekbones. I was much too thin in the body. And my clothes were cheap and I hadn't learned to dress to flatter my body or colouring. My hair wasn't the best either. I looked much better from 25+. My face was more defined, my body had a few curves and my style and clothing was much nicer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 12:11 PM
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I dunno. I've done it. It's easy. Doesn't give good results, but it's easy enough to do. I am, however, quite thick skinned and shrug off rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:26 PM
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Well ofc women don't have the incentive. They get approached, and if they don't, they generally care less about going without sex. So, there is no point hoping that women are going to reverse thousands of years of mating practices. They just aren't. In fact, if you look at most animals in a natural world, the male pursuing the female is standard. It's instinctive. It's not going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:19 PM
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Been there, done that. Its more effective to see who approaches you and then reject the ones you don't like. It's the way men and women have courted for thousands of years, it's not going to change other than in a few isolated examples. I grew up in the 90s, well before online dating, Instagram etc., and women who approached men were laughed at and called desperate. Often by the men themselves. I see nothing to confirm attitudes have changed, they may even have become more entrenched. If you app…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:09 PM
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Some will, some won't. But why set yourself up for the ones that will? It's a higher risk strategy than waiting for a man to approach. It's not fool-proof, but it's likely that a man who has made the effort to approach does at least fancy you. You still have to vet him, but he's passed the first hurdle. Women have no need to opt for a higher risk strategy, as they mostly get offers already and if they don't, then they don't have the male sex drive to push them into riskier situations for sex, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:55 PM
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A world where women approached would not stop them from getting pestered by men because the men most women don't want wouldn't get approached, so these would still approach women at the same rate they do now. So there is no advantage to women approaching. As a woman, I have frequently approached men in the past. It's not difficult, and I have no fear of rejection. Which has happened sometimes. But it's not a good strategy for women, as men who aren't especially keen will accept just because "why…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:05 PM
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Pretty boys and men are attractive to women. Even to older women - the TV presenter Richard Hammond is a good example who appeals to older women. He's short as well, but lots of women love him. The rugged masculine look is also attractive. I think the difference is that the very masculine look can be achieved by more men than the pretty boy look. To be a pretty boy you have to be facially attractive and a certain genetic type. Whereas a man without a pretty face can achieve the very masculine lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:07 AM
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I'm 52. Nobody cares how many men I've slept with and I would consider a man asking the question to be immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:36 PM
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The older women pictured have unusually low body fat for their age and probably for any age. This does accentuate wrinkles as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:27 AM
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Someone suggested somewhere (I can't remember where), that from around your 40s upwards it might be better to date but not live together; ofc you can stay over at each other's places at the weekend or for a few days a week. Do you think that's a good idea Yeah. I'd be happy with that. Seems ideal. I really would love to own a place but it's so expensive I bought in a cheap area and the house was a wreck. But also prices were a bit less silly then. I did have to live without heating and hot water…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:59 PM
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How have you found guys change as they get older (in terms of trying to date them and their attitudes)? I think a lot of older men are divorced and cynical, not going there again, and have lost interest in long-term relationships - as have many of their female equivalents, of course. Many have immersed themselves in hobbies such as motorsports or cycling and expect a woman to fit around that. People in general are less flexible in their lifestyles as they get older, so it's difficult to find a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:16 AM
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I have some autistic type traits. I've never bothered to pursue a diagnosis, so I wouldn't go around saying I'm autistic, but I do find social stuff difficult and I have some anxieties that cause problems socially, such as around food. I hide it as best I can, but I think I probably come across as standoffish or uninterested in others. I can often say stuff that offends people unintentionally and I'm liable to talk too much about topics that interest me and bore others. I did look for a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:47 AM
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I don't think I'm a likeable person in general. Some people like me, but I don't appeal to the majority. I've also got quite a loud voice naturally and some people are put off by that. Men my own age don't want me for a relationship, they are aiming younger generally. They won't pull a 20 something, but they quite often pull a 40 something. I haven't had a relationship for maybe 8 years, so from that experience I can deduce I'm not what most men want for the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:29 PM
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I'm middle-aged, so at least half those men will have lost interest in dating altogether, probably. Of the rest, if I were dressed up nicely to flatter my figure, then probably 90%. Once I started talking, that would drop to maybe 40%. The number of men who would want a relationship with me rather than a hook-up. From experience, probably zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:00 PM
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He's an attractive man. He will appeal to his female equivalent. Women are not as deluded as a lot of men on here say they are and a woman who is not young, attractive and into that Instagram lifestyle won't want him as they know he will at best pump and dump them, if he is interested at all. Do I think that man is visually attractive? Yes. Is he the only type of man I find attractive? No. Do I think that man would be interested in a committed relationship with me, even if I were in his age brac…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:14 PM
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It's not whether they could cheat, its whether they would. Plenty of men would cheat, they just don't get the opportunity. Having said that, I have known some men who had lots of extra marital affairs, and they weren't wealthy or good-looking at all. One in particular I remember cheating throughout his marriage and he was a very average looking factory worker. He continued to cheat into his 60s. Of course, the women he cheated with weren't anything special, but I suppose he must have had some ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:06 AM
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We aren't talking about single men. We are talking about men with partners. Men who already have had success on the dating market. And there are a lot of women who seem to enjoy dating married men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:57 AM
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There is a saying "A man is as faithful as his opportunities." And when you look at men who have endless opportunity with women, such as celebrities, sports stars, even politicians, the majority of them do cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:52 AM
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Depends on the age of the couple. Under about 40 it will be the man. 40 to 50ish it might be the woman, especially if the man is older than her. Over 50 it depends on the health of the individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:46 PM
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And that's why there's hardly any women on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:38 AM
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We aren’t talking about market value, or who has power. We are talking about biology. We all have biological limitations. In my early 40s I still felt young and invincible. Now, 10 years later I have watched some of my peers fall ill and sometimes die. They call the middle years “snipers alley” for a reason. People who you wouldn’t expect, people who led a healthy life. There are no guarantees in life, but having a child at an older age is a risk. And it’s not you who takes the risk alone, it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:49 PM
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Well as you rightly say, you can do whatever you like, but if you want a large family that would imply 4+ children. Even if you meet a woman tomorrow to have a family with, this means your younger children will be born in your 50s. Speaking as someone currently in their 50s, this is a formidable task, to have babies at that age, even for a man. And an even more formidable task to have teens when over retirement age. Quite apart from the fact that the children risk losing their father while still…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:13 PM
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Then you should have started your family over 10 years ago. You might still be ok for a couple of kids if you can find a woman young enough, but you are too old now for a large family. And at your age, your best bet for a fertile woman is a single mother with one child. She has proven fertility and will probably be open to more children. Our childless early thirties woman may have fertility issues she doesn't have time to correct, and a 20 something is too young to find you attractive in most ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:42 AM
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Preening - grooming and excessive looking in the mirror. No one needs a Chadbot to pump and dump. This is readily available for free from real men and most women aren’t looking for that situation. So the market to buy Chadbots would be limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:22 PM
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Depends. Is he handy around the house, or is he just going to sit around preening himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:33 AM
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I'm fine with it as long as I can have a manbot
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:19 PM
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If you do that, you'll have a baby. With no father. You'll probably have to watch that baby die. Better to enter into a relationship with a man who will help provide for his child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:48 PM
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50s Female, divorced. So many people on this sub are angry and dehumanise the opposite sex. It's very sad and won't help their dating prospects as it will seep through into their interactions. I don't really have any advice to offer. If I were good at relationships I wouldn't be divorced. But I don't think the Internet and the huge amount of home entertainment helps people find relationships. When I was young you had to go out for entertainment. So all the young people did, introvert, extrovert,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:23 PM
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Meaning I’ve only ever heard the view that men don’t have a higher libido than women voiced online. And by a minority of people online at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:15 PM
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People online are the only people who claim women as a sex have an equal or higher libido than men as a sex. And very few of those. Of course men have a higher libido generally. Everyone knows that. Everyone IRL acknowledges it. Why are you even bothering to post about it? Some women may have a higher libido than some men. Men with very low libidos do exist. But in the general sense, men, like all male mammals, have a higher libido than women or female mammals. This is not controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:52 PM
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My off line life is a man free zone. Not by choice, by death and divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:59 PM
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None. Because they do matter. He doesn't have to be traditionally handsome, but there needs to be an attraction and have a look that appeals to me in some respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:36 PM
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Things that are attractive in men are not always attractive in women and vice versa. The sexes are different. If a man exhibits feminine type behaviour, many women are not attracted to that. I can't see why this is controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:12 AM
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Absolutely I'd marry him. "Don't talk, just let me look at you".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:10 AM
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It can have that effect in women too. Sex drive is closely linked to appetite for life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 11:01 PM
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Everyone IRL knows that men as a sex have a higher libido than women as a sex. Its only online anyone ever says different. Having said that, there is an overlap and an individual man may not have as high a libido as an individual woman. If you pop over to the dead bedroom sub, you will find plenty of women with husbands who aren't interested in sex. Women can have a very high libido for a particular man they fancy, possibly more than many men do, but they don't tend to have the indiscriminate li…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 01:43 PM
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Makes me think of the Terminator films. The terminator spends several years as the companion to a single mother in Terminator Genysis, and I can see the appeal in that for a woman who doesn't want to date, to have this very capable "man" in the house. And in Terminator 2 Sarah Connor delivers a monologue about how the machine is a better father to her son, than any of the men she has taken up with. "Watching John with the machine, it was suddenly so clear. The terminator would never stop. It wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:11 PM
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No, the man can still love her and have sex elsewhere. Men can separate sex and love, I think. But in reality, a man who pursues sex outside his marriage, rather than it being an occasional unplanned event, is not giving his full attention to the marriage and his wife will feel that whether he realises or not. He is undermining his marriage and increasing the probability of it failing. This has consequences not only to the couple but to their children and wider family. So whether he loves her or…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:19 AM
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If your looks and youth are all you bring to a marriage, you will be replaced as soon as they fade. Millionaire Chad has the means to do this, so he will. Better to wait and marry someone who you are more compatible with. And before you all tell me about alimony, we don't all live in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:31 PM
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I thought my male self was hot AF. I would date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:36 PM
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Well as you say, it's legal, they can do what they want I don't really care, but I wouldn't go so far as to applaud it and I'm betting that the average local men in the countries they're looking in are less than impressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:41 PM
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Why would we be supportive of someone playing on easy mode? It's like using a cheat code and many people think what they are doing is exploitative of people in poorer countries. As for the exotic angle, in the US at least, there are men of all different races available to date. And they complain that white women and women of their own race overlook them in favour of white men. I don't see being of Indian, Chinese heritage etc will confer a great advantage to a foreign man looking to date in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:23 PM
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Not really. The western man is seen as high status by a lot of women from poorer countries. This is in addition to any wealth he might have - which buys a lot more in the poorer country than the richer one. He is playing on a much easier mode than the wealthy man from a poorer country who wants to come to the west for a bride. The wealthy man from a poorer country on entering the west has his status and money downgraded in comparison to staying in his home country. He no longer looks as special …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:44 PM
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They would also be a good catch for a woman in their own country so they don't need to travel
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:21 PM
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This used to happen during and after WW2, in the UK at least. My aunt was brought up in a household like this. Two sisters who had both had their husbands killed during the war set up home together. One sister went out to work to support the family while the other sister stayed at home with the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:19 PM
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Many old people have children who live some distance away. It's a feature of modern life, people move for work, to experience living abroad. Even if you have children, they aren't going to be around to pick you up off the floor. We live this scenario already.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:58 AM
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Most very old people are single already. Every relationship ends eventually by death of one partner, if not divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:26 PM
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Yeah. I get slightly irritated when people say things like "all women are a little bit bi". Nothing wrong with being bi, but some of just are not at all. To me, my make-out partner must have rougher, male skin, among other things. I can recognise a beautiful woman when I see one and I can enjoy looking at her, but it's like looking at a beautiful painting or scene, it's not sexual in any way. A good looking man and it's a visceral reaction, like I want to bite him. Our hypothetical ugly man won'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:15 PM
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The man. You said initially he was hygienic and that's the base level I need to make him preferable to the woman. If he stinks and the woman doesn't, I would pick the woman, keep my eyes shut throughout and imagine she's a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:02 PM
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True. Everyone can have a bad day. I once cancelled a date because I had fainted that day after a blood test and felt really wobbly. Would I have cancelled Brad Pitt? Yes. No-one wants to faint on a date, especially not with Brad Pitt.
/r/seduction19/04/23 09:44 PM
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The cherub username was taken
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:06 PM
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Wasn't an option for me either. But he thought differently. Takes two people to make a marriage, but only one to break it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:04 PM
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I think it depends on the woman. A young attractive woman will probably get some relationship minded men approaching her because she is seen as high value. A woman who is not seen as high value on the dating market will get approaches for sex only. Often these men will be married and think she will be grateful for whatever scraps they can throw her way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:01 AM
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Just because you're gay or lesbian, it doesn't mean you can't have children. Trans people who haven't had surgery or hormones that prevent it can also have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:15 AM
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Homosexual is no issue. I would be concerned about being transgender that involved surgery or medication from a health point of view. A lot of this stuff is irreversible and we don't fully understand the long term implications for health.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:11 AM
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We know this already. Germaine Greer told us years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:39 AM
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D Your friends don't send pictures of the women they don't want to be seen with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:30 PM
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Weight training for women protects the bones for the future against osteoporosis. This is a big health problem for older women. I would suggest that having stronger bones is a big plus for men. Men also don't have periods, which can be painful and debilitating. I don't go around having to "get over" the fact that men don't have to have periods. It is what it is. For everything in life, we achieve more and are happier if we stop comparing ourselves to others. Instead of worrying about what percei…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:11 PM
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It's not a small fraction of men who will fuck a woman they wouldn't be seen in public with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:03 PM
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I go to the gym to keep healthy. That is important. And I know what it's like not to be touched by a human being for extended periods thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:46 PM
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Not really, no. Some men will even have competitions to "fuck a pig" where they compete to shag the most ugly woman for a laugh. Some men will stick their dick in anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:44 PM
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Most men are stronger than most women. Even without training. And there are downsides to owning a vagina, believe it or not. But what I'm saying is that all these things are biological facts. There is no reason to have to 'get over it' any more than there is a need to get over the fact that the sun sets at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:20 PM
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Why? It's all biology. Men have a strong fairly indiscriminate sex drive. That's just biology. Therefore a woman who wants easy sex with a man can get it. There is no point worrying about these things. They are just facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:04 PM
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Easy sex isn't love
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:01 PM
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Exactly. I'm a woman and I've been training hard in the gym for months and a skinny 16 year old boy can walk in and bench press more than me on his first visit. The sexes are not the same. This is just a fact. I don't undestand the angst about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:23 PM
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And they won't satisfy the single and childless criteria in any greater numbers than the US women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:12 PM
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It's not unreasonable for women 25-35 to have kids, whereas fewer men do in that age range. Women have a biological clock. They can't afford to wait until they're 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:23 PM
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Tbf most women in poorer countries than the US are married with kids by early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:21 PM
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It's really really difficult for a woman to build enough muscle to have an overweight BMI if she isn't also carrying a lot of fat or taking steroids. Much more so than for a man. Most people with an overweight BMI are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:25 PM
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Nope. I was married for 20 years and can honestly say I had no Steve's. When my marriage ended I had zero male interest until I joined a dating site a year later.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:19 PM
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I think it unlikely he'd be a virgin because he is outgoing and funny (hence the joke) and there is something charming about that. But 6ft 8 isn't better than 6ft height wise. It might be considered to be less attractive to be freakishly tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:27 PM
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Once you go over about 6'2, extra height probably doesn't confer more advantage. And unless you are well built, it will confer less advantage as a tall skinny man will look even more skinny than he really is. Tall men without self confidence also tend to stoop which is unattractive. Think of the footballer Peter Crouch. He's about 6ft 8 but not more attractive physically because of it. If he weren't a famous footballer, he wouldn't be considered a catch from his looks (although he does have an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:31 PM
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Yeah. There were probably more babies born to older mothers in the pre-contraception era than there are now. Women carried on having babies right up to the menopause. Anyone tracing their family tree will find plenty of older mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:00 PM
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Not as many as marry women who aren't one of those. They might date them, they don't tend to marry them. More usual marriages are like those of George Clooney marrying a high flying lawyer and getting social capital and publicity from that, or Arnold Schwarzenegger marrying into a political family to boost his political career. Men aren't stupid. If they have the ability to marry a woman who has additional qualities to just beauty, that's what they'll do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:43 AM
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When you look at real life celebrity or powerful men, they don't marry the cashier from Walmart. They don't tend to be fussy about who they hook up with, but for LTR or marriage it's different. They marry women who are beautiful, yes, but also have significant success of their own and / or family money. The women often have a large amount of social capital that can be used to advance the mans career.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 08:00 PM
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WW3 would probably not be the type of war requiring mass conscription of soldiers. But assuming for the sake of argument, it was. I have no husband but I would do everything in my power to prevent my teenage sons (and my daughter too) from joining up as cannon fodder. I'm not from the US, we don't have the draft, but I'm guessing in the event of an invasion every able bodied adult would be required to do something for the war effort, men and women. I'm too old to be a soldier, I would be one of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:47 AM
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No, they're not trying to get into a relationship with her, they're trying to fuck her. Even if she fucks him she's still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:27 PM
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Did the study take account of all sexual orientation? I would think gay men under 30 are much less likely to want a relationship than lesbians of the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:07 PM
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Because during standard PIV sex between a man and a woman, the man enters the woman body. Hence she 'gives' him access. He 'takes' the access that she has given him and enters her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:46 PM
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Not in the UK. 16 can sleep with any age provided they aren't in a position of responsibility over the teenager such as a teacher etc. Not sure about other European countries, they all differ slightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:11 AM
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OF isn't a reliable source of income for most of the women who try it. A very few make thousands (not billions). The vast majority make a couple of hundred dollars a month or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:55 AM
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They can do well for dates you said, if they keep themselves in good shape. If she scores fabulously on all other criteria, men will still shag her. Edit - staying in shape past 50 is definitely not easily attainable. It takes rigid discipline, constant watching what you eat and lots of gym time. Even if you were previously slim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:47 PM
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This is true, but so did all my peers at the same time. It's as if every man in his 20s were 6ft tall. It confers no advantage any more, unless you want to date a lot older which most people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:42 PM
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Well, the OP is listing it as an easily attainable trait. But it's not. It is more akin to height, yes you're correct, as you have no control over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:50 PM
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It's not a criteria that's under your control though is it? Once it's gone, it's gone. It can't really be compared to weight management or even personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:29 PM
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It's not easy to meet the criteria of being youthful without a time machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 01:54 PM
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I'm in the UK and I do think Americans seem to have a weird fixation about virginity. One the one side there's all these purity pledges and religious types, on the other there's shaming about it. Now I'm not saying Europeans never do these things, but there just doesn't seem to be a focus on it like in the US (or at least as represented on Reddit).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:47 PM
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Where are you from? 19 seems very very young. Lots of people are virgins at 19. In my early 20s I dated a virgin guy and the sex was good. He was keen to take instructions and I was happy to help him. It was a great experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:34 PM
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Idk, I'm basing it on my teen sons and I've heard virgin bandied about as an general roasting insult in groups of teen boys they know. Maybe it's different at that age when most of them are likely to be virgins, so it's not taken too literally. I've not heard my 19 yr old daughter or her friends reference virginity in relation to boys they know at all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:52 AM
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There's nothing wrong with a man being a virgin. It's a great experience being a mans first lover. I wouldn't do it now, because I'm too old for most virgin men and it would be inappropriate, but when I was younger it wasn't a problem. There may be an issue with older Virgin men in that the reason they haven't met someone is because they have issues. But that's the case of the man being the issue rather than the virginity and really only applies to men well out of their 20s. I would argue that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 08:31 AM
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She’s in Europe. No death penalty
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:13 AM
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Nowhere does he say he was an escort. He says he worked in bars and met these women as a result of the social life coming with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:10 PM
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Not sufficient. You'll also have to support the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:43 AM
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When her father / husband finds out, you'll be leaving the cave without your rocks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:41 AM
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As is the woman's male relatives, giving out rough justice to any rapists. As they and the wider community will be on the hook to help support any child born without a father, they have a strong incentive to prevent rape. I suspect in prehistory times rape wasn't as easy as you think. It probably was only widespread in war situations, as it continues to occur to this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:38 AM
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Someone who dates married men, especially if the marriage (or committed relationship)has children. Someone who neglects her children or is cruel to them or allows her man to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:45 AM
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I suspect the British equivalent to 80k is a lot less, especially as we don't need to pay for healthcare. British average salary is less than 40k by quite a bit I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:27 PM
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This is all so American. British people generally don't talk about money so openly, especially if they're middle or upper class. It would be very unusual for a British woman to put a number on a suitable salary for a date. Ofc there are ways to guess a ballpark figure by his lifestyle, but there's always the possibility that's maintained by debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:24 PM
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Realistically a man probably won't want to have children in his 50s. Yes I know some do, but most won't. His sperm quality does decline, albeit not as dramatically as the woman's fertility. Plus most men don't want toddlers when they are 45+, nor do they want to be funding teenagers when they are heading to retirement age. The middle aged man having kids with his much younger wife is a minority activity, restricted to a very few.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:20 PM
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Plenty of single mothers are well under 35. This is the inconsistency with Red Pill. If we are looking for fertility, a young single mother is your best bet. Even a single mother of 30, provided she has had a child fairly recently, is a better bet for fertility than a childless woman of any age. Miscarriage rates are also an indicator of fertility as a non viable embryo is likely to be miscarried. And the true measure of fertility isn't conception but live births. Women between 21 and 37 have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:00 PM
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You can't tell beforehand what her fertility is like. Plenty of young women can have trouble conceiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:46 PM
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If fertility were all men were worried about it would make sense to only date single mothers. They have proven fertility. A better bet for a baby than a woman who has never had a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:23 PM
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The fit 40 something for me. But I'm early 50s, so to me he's still a young man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:38 AM
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No it's not crazy. Men can flex attributes other than looks which is more difficult for women. My argument is that the female advantage doesn't end at 30. Women in their 30s and even 40s can still trade on their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:08 AM
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That's the case for both sexes though. The Red Pill idea of The Wall is specifically female and denotes the age at which women's advantage over men in the relationship market finishes. But in real life women in their 30s and 40s still get plenty of male interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:56 AM
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I've looked. There is nothing near me of any type.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:25 PM
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I have children but they are still school age. I don't dare to look too far ahead. Although my mother in her 80s is still active and independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:53 PM
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Good point. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:36 PM
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I've never seen such an event. And realistically I suspect a lot of people attending something like that are well over 50. I still have dependent children and a full time job, I'm not compatible with someone close to retirement age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:35 PM
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I've dated up to 6 years older and 13 years younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:32 PM
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I would like one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:28 PM
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Early 50s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:26 PM
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There are very few single men in my age group. I'm too old now for most men to see me as relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:23 PM
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The wall exists, but it's a lot older than 30. I became single in my mid 40s and experienced a lot of interest online from men, but it was the fact I had several dependent children rather than my age that was a blocker to relationships at that point. Now in my early 50s the age itself is more of a blocker. I would say the wall starts at 50. Edit - not to say a woman over 50 can't get a relationship, it's just not as easy as for a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:33 PM
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I never used filters or edited photos and I was upfront about my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:02 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 07:59 AM
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Idk. It hasn’t happened since either. Not so quickly. Usually I have to get to know someone before I fancy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:42 AM
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He was physically turned on, it was obvious, but I guess for a lot of men that doesn’t necessarily mean much
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:28 AM
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I know it’s difficult to believe, but yes. Possibly my face looks like the back of a tram…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:17 AM
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Yes. He was a tinder match and I was just interested in his profile, but when I met him it was like instant raw sexual attraction. He wasn’t tall or classically handsome, it was just an attraction on a very basic sexual level and idk why, pheromones or something. He was 10 years younger than me, I was in my early 40s. I would have had sex with him right then, except we were in public. We kissed and it was electric. He was obviously turned on and we agreed to meet again. Then he ghosted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 11:57 PM
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Well less exposure to STIs is a big benefit of monogamy. Unless you want to wear a condom every time you have sex for the rest of your life (and still there's a residual risk) A second income is another benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:42 PM
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No, men mostly look better at 20 than 50. They always look better at 25 than 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:52 PM
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Almost all the people I know who have been open about their mental health issues have been men. Both online and irl. Most of these have had some sort of treatment. I don't hear of many women at all. I know 2 women and about 6 men who have personally told me of their issues. In my experience men are open about it these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:29 PM
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In the Western world most average lifespans are about 80ish. 40 is definitely middle aged. If we are talking about the developing countries, even those with low average lifespans tend to be such because of high infant mortality. Once out of childhood you've a reasonable chance of a normal lifespan. But even if we say OK 72 is the lifespan to use. Half of that is 36. But we spend more than a single year as "middle aged" so the banding probably extends from around 30 into the 40s at least. But thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:09 PM
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40 is middle aged by any metric, rather than old. Assuming the maximum possible lifespan for most people is about 90 years. It kinda goes like 0-29 young 30-59 middle aged 60+ old. Although you'll find that 30 somethings will resist being called middle aged too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:50 PM
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No worries. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:53 PM
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You could say the same about women 50+. But I'm not obese. I have a BMI of 22.5. I'm not looking for anything I'm not offering myself. I'm not even objecting to a man with a bit of a belly because I recognise that's unrealistic at 50. But I'm not interested in men with serious obesity. At this age its both an aesthetic and a health issue. I take care of my body and I'd rather stay single than be in a relationship with a man who has a BMI of 30+. I haven't misrepresented my standards. I am not at…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:19 PM
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Then I have no choice but to remain single. And that's what I'll do. I'm not convinced that a regular guy of my age has the pick of 35 year olds (remember I'm not setting standards for income level and I'm happy with a man who is no taller than I am). But there just aren't many single people on the market as you get older. It's not so much a case of rejecting the regular guy, as there being just very few of them. Most men my age are not single. BTW if you think 40 is old, you must be very young.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:18 PM
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I'm a similar age and men who approach me tend to be one or more of - married, over retirement age, obese (I'm not obese myself and im not attracted to fat men), looking for a free prostitute for a ONS (I'm not looking for that), have drink or drugs issues. They are not perfectly decent guys. None of them are viable relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:55 PM
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I think it’s a fair point. As long as you’re not also going to complain about how your mother should have advised you better about dating. That’s your dads job. And don’t take advice from anonymous people on Reddit because you don’t really know if they are successful. Find a real life man to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:39 AM
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Older women tend to not want or have already had children, so they're not looking for a man who is father material. So they can afford to drop all standards other than looks and reasonable behaviour. As far as looks go, just being young puts a man well ahead of most of the older women's male peers, so she won't necessarily be as fussy in that regard as a younger woman. Youth is attractive, especially when you no longer have it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:34 PM
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Yeah. It's a cesspit, not to be taken too seriously. Like the lottery, occasionally you get a win or know someone who has and thats what keeps you playing. Certainly no-one of either sex should base their self image on their success or lack of on the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:02 PM
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Idk what the answer is. The problem is the apps are very low effort, so the thirsty guys aren't going to stop using them, because why would they? Even if they get no interest, they haven't had to put much effort in, it was worth a try. I suppose the only thing to do is abandon online dating altogether. The apps are there to make money, not find anyone a partner. At present it's in their interest to keep you on there as long as possible and make the experience unworkable unless you pay. If their …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:31 AM
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There are people of both sexes who don't send nudes, or who don't send them unsolicited. But some people do. And if they do, then probably current online dating experiences, coupled with either low self esteem or exhibitionist tendencies is why they do. And tbh there are lots of men on the apps who are behaving like they only want one thing. It doesn't need every man to behave like that to give that general impression. So most women are staying away from the apps and those that do go on the apps…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:05 AM
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Because they've become normalised and most men expect them, or at least try to get them. Some women are people pleasers and want to give men nudes because they've learned that's what is expected a lot of the time. If a woman has spent any time at all on the apps she knows if she doesn't send them the man will often lose interest. The current crop of young women have grown up with these expectations and its been normalised to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:18 AM
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Well that is what happens. All the women are hot in films aimed at men. Most Hollywood actors of both sexes are hot. Films are not real life. Most people understand this and not many people actually care. Even the girl next door characters are hot compared to most actual women. I don't lose any sleep over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:59 PM
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That's what men like to watch. They like to identify with the hero. They don't want to identify with Colin from Accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:47 PM
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James Bond always gets the girl
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:40 PM
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There are definitely movies that target men and boys that feature love or sex nterests. Boy does daring and impressive things, gets the girl. Usually neither the man or the woman are average. Films aren't real life. Even the character actors tend to be better than the real life average. For an example Tom Hanks is often quoted as average. For a movie star, he looks average. Compare him to regular men of the same age, he's top tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:37 PM
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I'm beginning to think one of the reasons online dating is so rubbish is because the majority of the profiles are people messing about like this. Loads and loads of people LARPing as the opposite sex, testing how bad a profile can be to get matches, matching to wind people up and paste "witty" conversations on dating subs. Trying to cheat on their partner/ spot their partner cheating Etc. Etc. Add to this the dead profiles, bots, sex workers and there's hardly anyone real OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:43 PM
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Well Tbf without contraception it doesn’t take very much sex to procreate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:12 PM
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With all due respect, if you're going into marriage intending to divvy up everything precisely and count up who's doing what constantly, just don't get married or have children. You need to have a spirit of generosity to each other in marriage in both word and deed or you are both going to be miserable and the marriage will likely fail. If you're so worried you're going to be down on the deal, just don't do it. You're obviously not a good fit for marriage, your partner or both. Most mature coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:28 AM
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Most western countries don't have alimony. That's a US term. There may be spousal maintenance but it's very limited in the UK. You'll likely only receive it under very specific conditions such as disability or being very close to retirement age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:12 AM
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Bloody hell, even 3 times a month is loads. I'm a woman and I can't remember the last time I cried, I've got friends I've never seen cry. But I'm British, brought up in the 70s & 80s. If I had cried in public as a teen people would have mocked me, it wasn't the done thing. My parents also would become angry if I cried once I was older than about 7 or 8. It was seen as self indulgent and attention seeking behaviour. Most of my peers were brought up the same way. Crying was really only permissable…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:32 AM
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Well tbf most of the men in my age bracket for a relationship do have children of their own, so you wouldn't think it as huge a barrier as it might otherwise be. And I've been single and looking for a relationship for 6 years now with no luck at all, so I don't think I'm finding it easier, no. Not in the relationship sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:55 AM
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Oh I see. So all women can easily get relationships is only true as long as they are young and childless. Which is basically only a small proportion of single women statistically. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:45 AM
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I'm a divorced mother
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:39 AM
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No, all the men who match with me are looking for sex only. This might not be the case with younger women, but with me they are. I've given up using it, it's too depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:35 AM
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You don't get relationships from tinder. You might have occasionally a few years ago but not any more
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:07 AM
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I have dated a bi man but I'd be wary about dating a bi man who is consciously suppressing that side of himself. I'd be afraid that sooner or later he might need to explore it and this would jeopardise our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:30 PM
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I'm 51 but in good shape for.my age so I think male me would do better than female me if we are looking for.a partner rather than casual only. Male me could date 10 years younger more easily than female me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:00 PM
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About 46. I don't doubt that I was probably better looking in my 20s but that was before the Internet so I was not made aware of the situation, as real life approaches are limited in opportunity. Once I got divorced at 46 and went online dating I was amazed at the attention I got. Although it's fallen off over time ofc. And most of it wasn't people looking for serious relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:44 PM
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Single Not fat Not a big drinker Yes, Yes And yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:08 PM
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Where did you get those figures from? It's very unlikely that such a high percentage of 60 year old men can father a child. In fact even the percentage of 60 year old who can be said to be healthy (as in don't have any diagnosed conditions or need to take medication for anything) is quite low. Many 60 year old men have ED, often linked to medication for high blood pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:35 AM
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The vast majority of my matches are not interested in a relationship with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:03 PM
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If we're saying that men have to be multi faceted to attract the best looking women, and I don't disagree, I would argue that to be a partner to a top tier man a woman needs to be more than just beautiful. If you observe irl the partners of powerful or celebrity men they tend to have high social capital themselves and come from powerful or wealthy families. They are educated as well as beautiful and enhance his social circle and hence often his career by their connections and excellent social sk…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:20 PM
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Then your group isn't average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:07 PM
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I didn't say it was anyone's fault, just that beauty isn't intrinsic to any more than a small subset of women. You could equally argue that men's pursuit of status is setting unrealistic expectations for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:53 PM
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Workout attire. So she's taking care of herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:49 PM
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I think your average woman on the street that you might find attractive is putting in a lot more maintenance to her appearance than you think. She's watching her weight, she's wearing clothes that flatter and she has makeup on even if it doesn't look obtrusive. She's probably spending hundreds at the hairdresser each year having her hair cut and coloured. I mean women routinely wear underwear with wires in to accentuate their figure. Not just glamour pusses, but regular ordinary women. That is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:33 PM
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Most good looking women have quite a bit of extrinsic help making them that way, even at the low maintenance end of the scale. Good diet, exercise, a decent hair cut and style, flattering makeup and well chosen clothes and underwear to flatter their figure. Higher maintenance women may also have cosmetic surgery, heavier makeup etc. Plenty of women look plain when all this is stripped away. Very few are so genetically gifted they look beautiful without any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:05 PM
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Eyesight. It's not that big of a deal in a partner but if you've the opportunity to give good Eyesight to your child why wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:58 PM
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You've not slept with many men have you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:47 PM
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Is this a US thing? I've not seen different pricing for men and women in the UK and if you go out at the weekend there are loads of women in pubs. I do get the impression that the US age limit of 21 for drinking doesn't really help matters (lots of groups of women aged 18-21out at the weekend here, is the prime age for it) and bars are seen as more seedy, male venues than they are in the UK, but I don't know if this correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:08 AM
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I don't have any single male friends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:56 PM
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In my experience men are hesitant to have relationships with unemployed women as they fear they may end up subsidizing her. Most want a woman who can support herself. Educated Men looking for a serious relationship also want a woman who is educated. He doesn't want his children brought up by an uneducated mother. Ofc if it's just sex they aren't so bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 03:58 PM
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Most women aren't on the apps. They're living in real life.
/r/seduction14/09/22 11:52 AM
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I think a lot of reddit users have a skewed idea of the average. Sarah Millican is in her 40s and if you look around at 40 something women, lots look like her. I'm really struggling to think of an average younger celebrity woman, as most of them are well above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:04 PM
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You don't really get many average or below average women in the public eye unless they are politicians or similar who tend to be older. The only ones that spring to mind are comedians I would say the comedian Sarah Millican is an average woman. Men on PPD will probably think she's below average because she isn't thin, but when you go outside and look around you, she's totally average. She wears glasses and has an ordinary face with no unpleasant features, but she's not a beauty. I would say for …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:32 PM
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The men with high counts aren't excluding fat women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 05:32 PM
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Because plenty of men pay for sex and count such encounters in studies like this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 05:23 PM
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It can be easier for a man with a partner to get laid than one without. There is a certain type of woman attracted to married men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 05:21 PM
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Really? Where does that figure come from? I'm genuinely astonished by it. I don't know any woman who cries as often as that. I have friends who I've never seen cry and I've known them for years. My own mother can go years without crying and even my teen daughter cries much more infrequently than that and she's in the raging hormone years.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:16 AM
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You're mistaking being used for sex with validation. For a man, a woman having sex with him is validating, as it isn't so easy for a man to get sex from a woman as vice versa. But for a woman, the act of sex isn't validating even from a man she personally likes (in which case it's a source of anxiety - will he pump and dump, it's a waiting game to see). In the words of Kathy Burke "men would have sex with a ham sandwich" A lot of men will have sex with women they find unattractive and often even…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:45 PM
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Don't most men have a mother? And most women can't cry to order. If she's crying it's because she is genuinely upset. I don't think I've cried in years and if I was required to for no reason I don't think I could do it. Sounds like it's your family that are good at manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:40 PM
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I actually do have teens of both sexes. They would rather die than ask a parent anything about dating anyway, so it’s not a situation most parents are likely to be faced with. And even if I did try to give advice, they wouldn’t listen because I’m an Old Person. I leave condoms where they can be easily taken if required and just hope for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:56 PM
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I still wouldn’t. He will have to figure it out himself. I doubt I could tell him anything useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:35 PM
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I wouldn’t. That’s his fathers job. I’ve never been dating as a man, how would I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:13 PM
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I read that as “you, the couple have bigger issues”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:08 PM
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I think the point is that women can, noone denies that, but most women don't. They choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:18 PM
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I know. Assume it’s average.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 08:05 PM
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C. But I'm old. When I was under 30 it would be closer to B but only in bars, nowhere else. I think I'm not very approachable. I'm of my rating I'm not sure. My avatar is me, judge for yourself. My face isn't film star worthy but it's not ugly either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:29 PM
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I'm looking also at how I relate to the female body standard and assuming I would relate to the male body standard in a proportional way. Otherwise Chad following the same process is going to end up as a 6ft 4 woman with huge shoulders and no tits and clearly that's going to affect his success negatively and negate the point of the exercise. I want to find someone for the same reason anyone wants to find someone. I would like a partner. It's a common human need lots of people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:58 PM
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It's not irrelevant. If I had been born a man with my genetic heritage, I'd have been around the 6ft mark My father was tall, so are my other male relatives. Otherwise it isn't a fair comparison. I would be a bigger build all over if I'd been born male. I'm assuming for the comparison that male me is of a similar build in comparison to the male standard as female me is to the female standard. I agree that 50 year old men wanting to date 25yr olds are deluded unless they're a Hollywood movie star…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:46 PM
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Well this is it. I'm assuming everything else remains in proportion, except I'm a man. I'm not excessively tall for a woman, about 5ft 7. Given that there seems to be on average 5 inches difference in height between the sexes and the fact that my male relatives are 6ft+, I am assuming I'm a 50 yr old 6ft man in good shape, own house, car, financially sound. As long as such a man doesn't expect to date 25 year olds, he will do quite well. Plenty of 40 something women will want to date him. He wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:49 PM
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I've done it quite a lot. Usually I'll get the man's number but the messages fizzle out fairly quickly. I did ask my husband out several times before he accepted. However he's now an ex husband because he left me. What I've learned is that although men say they like it, it's not a great strategy. Men know they are the ones expected to do the asking. If he's keen, he will ask even if he's incredibly nervous. So if he hasn't asked, it means he isn't particularly keen. So the relationship doesn't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:02 PM
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I'm not as tall as 6ft 3 but I'm above average for a woman. Probably if I were a man I'd be close to 6ft. But men don't care if you're tall and they don't really care about you being in a good financial position as long as you actually have a job. I have a good figure for my age but I'm competing with younger women for the men in my age group, so it's not as huge an advantage as it might be. Although it's a fallacy that a 50 year old man in good shape can routinely date 25 year old women, they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:32 PM
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Their value might not increase if they have nothing further to offer. But I'm tall, in good shape and financially sound. A man of my age in that situation will find those attributes are attractive to women of a similar age. As a woman it works less in my favour. I've initiated with most of the men I've been out with IRL and some of those I met online. I have no problems asking for a man's number in a pub. I do get rejected fairly frequently or sometimes he will initially give his number and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:37 PM
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Yes. Because I'm older and a man of my age in a similar situation would have more success I think. I know men usually have to initiate, but I've done that before, including rejection by the man. It's not that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:59 AM
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My ex divorced me. He would rather pay child support than be with me. I'd rather have the loving husband than the money. (Not my ex though, as obviously he doesn't love me)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:03 PM
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I agree. But the common view on here is that most of the women are shagging Chad every weekend - if this were true, then Chad is the problem and he needs to stay in his league. I don't know if these people have ever been outside and looked at real life couples. Dating apps are a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:10 AM
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I don't think he does, but that seems to be what people on here think. That the average woman won't date the average man because shagging Chad has made her aim too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:41 AM
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Wel if Chad stuck to his female equivalent and left the average woman alone maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:02 PM
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nonsense I am 99% sure you mean men oy wanting casual There is that yes. And ghosters, people who won't meet, people who just want sexting and nudes, married men...the list goes on. Yes the picture is me and yes I do have problems online dating to the extent that I've given it up and I don't know if I'll go back to it. I don't want casual, but casual is all that I tend to be offered. And despite what you read on here, men are only too willing to mess you about online. Arrange to meet and not tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:25 AM
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I'm British. And I looked at FDS because I look at lots of different things. I'm divorced and I've done online dating and you get a lot of nonsense from men on there, so it's a way to try and recalibrate a little. Pull back from over investing in people you hardly know. I try not to be too cynical though because that's no way to live - you only make yourself miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:54 PM
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Yeah I understand it but those dating trends were happening before that law or whatever it was, was overturned. Even before the overturn of the law, I wouldn't want to give birth in the States unless I had considerable backing both financial and practical from the child's father. Maternity leave is so short there and working hours so long. It would be brutal. And lots of couples, both men and women do want children, so it's not as simple as saying that you're just not going to do it. Was this ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:28 PM
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Well I think I commented maybe 2 or 3 times in about 3 years, so not regular at all. Sadly my 30s are a distant memory. What do you mean here? I am not a yank either so things are somewhat different but not totally Well, the US is a difficult place to be pregnant and have babies in, even before Roe v Wade was overturned. Minimal maternity leave, long working hours and not much social security. I can see why American women would want to be sure a life partner was capable of providing and not stin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:07 PM
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I have posted occasionally on FDS. Some things I agreed with and some things I called them out on. But mainly just lurking. Not a regular poster. Yes I'm a woman, but I am at a stage in life where I won't be getting married again, nor am I American so I don't have the same stakes in the dating game as most.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:49 PM
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The sub no longer exists I believe. Certainly there were some very strident posters who drowned out anything moderate. I don't believe the strategy itself included things like calling men names or associated behaviours but unfortunately some posters did just want to do that. Similarly a high value man isn't necessarily equated with certain looks based parameters or endless wealth. It is more to do with his character. But some posters didn't see it that way and were very loud about it. I can see …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:26 PM
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Mate, if I knew how to have a good relationship, I wouldn't be divorced. Dating is the easy part!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:47 PM
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Well if she's aiming for marriage then giving 50% ahead of that commitment does set a precedent that may be difficult to reverse. So I can see why they said that. I don't like all that Queen stuff, it's a bit silly. But then I'm British and we have an actual Queen and understand this is a different thing altogether But there are also lots of red pill people who out their own spin on that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:46 PM
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I think with a lot of these sort of subs, including Red Pill you have to separate what people post from what the central philosophy is. We get a lot of strident posters who create an echo chamber and can result in views posted getting more and more extreme and more moderate posters leaving. FDS does advocate men investing at the start of a relationship and not jumping straight to sex. This is to filter out men who are opportunists, pump and dump. It is a different matter once a couple are in a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:19 PM
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Well in reality he gets use of her reproductive capacity. And believe me that is costly. But FDS doesn't advocate the woman not bringing on her own money, so I'm not sure what you think the man is giving that he isn't getting in return. Once a couple is married and assuming they are both just starting out together FDS doesn't prohibit them pooling resources to buy a house etc. It's just in the dating stages he is expected to show interest by investing and by offering serious commitment rather th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:31 AM
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Not really. As per my other comments. It's a strategy for dating, not necessarily for life. But it doesn't advocate giving up your own financial independence to ensure you can't be trapped in a bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:11 AM
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I think the basics of FDS is that the man pays and plans all dates and the woman doesn't chase him. Once on an established relationship leading to marriage the woman will contribute but only by matching his efforts, provided the couple are starting from a fairly equal basis. Submission doesn't come into it. The idea is to stop women getting in a situation where they are strung along by men who aren't serious, especially in the earlier stages of dating. Or by men who have no intention of marrying…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:09 AM
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FDS do not advocate a woman giving up her own earning power under any circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:00 AM
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Married couples often use hormonal birth control. Getting a vasectomy isn't an option if you haven't completed your family and withdrawal method is too risky. Married men are probably one of the target markets for male.birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:14 AM
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There are apps where men don't have to disclose their height. Try one of those and stop shouting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:12 PM
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I do, just because it's unusual. Although I think it may have made men more wary I'm going to ask their height...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:22 PM
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I put it in my dating profile, no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:13 PM
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Many single mothers were married when they had their children
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:58 AM
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You might be but the comment you replied to referenced 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:42 AM
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He's talking about a woman in her 40s though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:28 AM
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A lot of men who only want sex don't stick around to watch a movie and they don't cuddle. The want the free sex worker experience and do in fact leave immediately following orgasm (his, she doesn't get one). If you sleep with a man straight away without a relationship this is often the senario, it's not worth it for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:05 AM
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Me. But I'm old. BMI 22.5.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:25 PM
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I have declined to date men with erectile dysfunction, so probably not, no. If we were already a couple and one of those things happened then that's different, we would find a way through together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:36 AM
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That's because they don't even look at the picture while they're swiping. They're watching TV or something auto swiping rapidly. Doesn't mean they'll message if they match.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:12 PM
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I know a man who is now in his 40s who claims to have a count in the hundreds although he's stopped counting now. I think his figures are plausible. He has never online dated. All his conquests were met IRL. He is quite nice looking although not model standard and not especially tall - about average height. These days he works out and has a nice body, but he's been slightly overweight in the past and it didn't seem to slow him down with women. He's probably top 20% now for his age group, but as …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:48 AM
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Healthy BMI. If he's under 35 - a flat stomach, although defined abs are not necessary. If he's older, a little bit of belly is expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:24 AM
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Yes, I live in the UK and the culture of lots of things is incredibly different from the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:44 AM
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You do realise that most women are not porn star level hot? Same as most men are not Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:36 AM
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To a certain extent this does happen with age. An older man (45-50+) in good shape and a stable, non-carcrash life can do better than his female equivalent. He can probably secure a relationship with his age appropriate equivalent if he wants one easier than she can. He may experience difficulties if he wants to date much younger, but maybe not. Noone is denying that the older man in poor shape and/or with disaster finances will not do well, but then usually neither will the equivalent woman. Bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 12:40 PM
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I can tell you from experience that more men than you might expect ghost when a meetup is suggested. I suspect a lot of these men are not actually single. Either that or they have performance or anxiety issues and just want wank material, but panic when faced with a real live woman DTF.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 12:31 PM
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I've made a total mess of my own love life and family life and I don't presume to even try and advise them. They will have to work it out for themselves. Woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:39 PM
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Yes I know. I'm just qualifying my statement in case my meaning isn't clear to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:00 PM
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I'm not looking for the word cis. Cis implies identifying as a particular gender. This has nothing to do with what a person identifies as, it's purely to do with the presence or absence of a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:17 AM
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I would think it's more difficult to date as a transman than as a biological man. I want the men I date to have a penis, I'm sexually attracted to penis. So I wouldn't date a transman. Probably many women feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:02 AM
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I know someone who dated a woman like M and actually wanted a relationship with her. But his M did sleep with him right away. That's the thing here that doesn't ring true. A girl like M isn't going to wait 3 months with relationship guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:02 AM
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Hot but poor man. As long as he's also affectionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:35 PM
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I'm in the UK and I would say an average man is about 5ft 9. If he's under 30 he would have a BMI below 25, but he won't have visible muscles and will have a soft belly. If he's over about 30 he will be slightly overweight, but not obese. He has brown hair, which is clean and cut but not in a hugely fashionable style. He probably wears branded clothes like Nike trainers, but not really expensive stuff. He dresses mainly in black or blue tones, nothing too bright. He owns a smart suit and black s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 09:37 PM
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Learn to play guitar and join a band
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:21 PM
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I'm over 50. I can have as much casual sex as I like without fear of pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:57 AM
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Yes. He was overweight and didn't have a conventionally good looking face, although he was tall and broad shouldered. He had a confident manner, asked me out and when later on he kissed me I became unexpectedly turned on. He was good in bed and we had sex on a few occasions afterwards. I would have been interested in more, but he called it off as he didn't want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 10:00 PM
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Yes and no. Most women are normal people with average bodies who expect a similar man. But it's undeniable that a bit of muscle on a man and a flat stomach will make him more attractive. And to achieve that, a young man really does have to just do sone weight training. He probably won't have the body of a Hollywood movie star, but he also won't have a beer gut and his posture will improve. A nice, natural bicep on a man is hot, doesn't have to be overly pumped like a bodybuilder. It is achievabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:17 AM
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Well it depends doesn't it. He might not want children, so he might be conciously avoiding women who want them. He might not want to be the main earner either. He might want someone who can contribute 50%. There are plenty of men out there who are not prepared to give more than 50% to a lifestyle financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 10:44 AM
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I'm a woman and I would say an average man is about 5ft 9. If he's under 30 he would have a BMI below 25, but he won't have visible muscles and will have a soft belly. If he's over about 30 he will be slightly overweight, but not obese. He has brown hair, which is clean and cut but not in a hugely fashionable style. He probably wears branded clothes like Nike trainers, but not really expensive stuff. He dresses mainly in black or blue tones, nothing too bright. He owns a smart suit and black sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:37 AM
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He's a lot younger than me, seems friendly and not pushy. Has a flat stomach and a face with no obviously off-putting features (missing teeth, aggressive skinhead, lazy eye etc). That's sufficient from the attraction point of view
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:04 PM
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I used to work with a man who started he thought the ideal female weight was 7 stone (98 pounds). I don't think he had the first idea of what that looks like. Unless she is very short and/or a young teen a 7 stone woman is underweight enough to look ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:50 AM
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Yes I would, but I've been married before and the experience has made me never want to marry again. For a younger woman who hasn't been married, answers will probably differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:12 AM
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I'm not in the US and don't pretend to know the US legal system, which as I understand it varies from state to state anyway. I do see a lot of men on Reddit complaining about how they percieved it to be biased against men. I don't know how true this is. That's why I prefaced my answer as outside of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:02 PM
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Maybe so, but he can't claim the moral high ground on that one over a person who leaves their marriage on spurious grounds. Neither conduct is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:22 PM
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In societies where it is punitive for women to divorce, fewer women divorce. Has the nature of women changed? No. Both men and women are out for the best deal they think they can get and work within the parameters of their society to get this. If conditions are favourable both men and women will upgrade. (In the general, obviously individuals may have morals that preclude the behaviour). A man who cheats, is he better behaved than a man who leaves his wife? A man who cheats, don't you think he h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:16 PM
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I did point out in my first comment it applied to outside the states. And just because men may think it too expensive in the US, doesn't mean they won't do it if they live elsewhere. The desire is there, even if conditions don't allow it's expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:09 PM
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I've never seen Mad Men. I have however seen this in real life on more than one occasion. The second wife or girlfriend is usually one or more of - younger, prettier, higher status than the first wife. I'm not American. Alimony is an American concept. Where divorce is affordable for men, they will do it if they feel they can upgrade. The fact that in some US states it isn't affordable doesn't change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:06 PM
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So you don't think cheating with multiple women isn't an indication that he 'settled' with the first wife? And outside the states, many men can indeed afford to divorce the first wife and marry or set up home with the mistress. It's not prohibitively expensive to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:57 PM
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Plenty of men trade in their wives for a newer hotter model if they gain in status and hence can make a better bargain on the sexual market. Celebrities do it all the time. The girl next door first wife gets ditched and a hotter younger wife brought in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:47 PM
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Ok. I'll bite. I never used to be unattractive, but I'm now 50, so by default that makes me unattractive to many, including men my own age as they often want to date younger. 1) No I never get hit on out in public any more 2) I can still get matches on dating apps because the men swipe on everything. But most of my matches don't talk, or if they do it's just a couple of sentences and then they disappear. Occasionally a younger man will ask for a hook-up, but usually he won't agree to meet me in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 10:44 AM
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It does happen. Tends to be things like shouting things like 'fat bitch' out of van windows as they drive past. Anonymous and difficult to trace.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:27 AM
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Possibly this is a US thing? I'm not in the US and electricians and plumbers etc are definitely considered working class and also do not struggle for dates due to their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:17 PM
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Skilled manual workers are definitely working class by accepted sociological definition, although this doesn't necessarily mean poor. If we are talking semi-skilled, such as lorry drivers, then they also tend to date working class women. Middle class professional men don't tend to have relationships with working class women either. They might shag them, but they won't bring them home to meet the family. Edited to add - the comment I was replying to specifically mentioned a man who had started a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:25 AM
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Don't be silly. I work in a factory with about 5000 working class men. The vast majority over the age of about 25 are not single. I grew up working class. Most of my female school friends married electricians, mechanical technicians, plumbers etc. I have never heard of a man IRL being turned down by a working class woman because he is a skilled manual worker, in fact a man who has his own scaffolding or plumbing business (works for himself plus employs a couple of others) is considered quite a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:10 AM
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Plenty of working class women will date him. And he will probably have better compatibility with those women long term because they will appreciate him and understand his values. Why is he ignoring those women and chasing a middle class woman who doesn't value him?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 10:26 AM
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I'm fairly often asked for my cup size online. I put my height and weight in my bio anyway. Men do quite often ask women how tall they are in my experience, which was why I put it in my bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:07 PM
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He’s a good looking man. Well above average. I would date him. Can’t really comment on her as I don’t fancy women but I think she looks nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:57 PM
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The man on the far right of the 5s I think is really good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:40 PM
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I'm already a divorced single mother so I would do #1. It wouldn't change my situation significantly and I have no desire to live with a man again I mean in reality I won't have any more children, but if I were to hypothetically be forced to choose one of the 2 options it would be option 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 03:53 PM
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I don't understand why he wasn't told to leave. This is not acceptable behaviour. He should have had an instant ban from that entire establishment.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/07/21 09:19 AM
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I did this to a guy once. I was taken genuinely ill just before the date. I texted and cancelled but it was probably after he'd already left his house. Well he never replied, deleted and blocked me right away. I don't blame him for this, it did look like I was being really flaky. But what I learned is that men generally don't put up with this sort of thing and neither should I. Ok you might block someone who was genuinely ill once in a while, but usually it is a flaky move.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/07/21 10:22 AM
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Well I know a man who is less than 5ft 5 who is very popular with women. He's a talented musician who plays in a lot of local pubs and venues. I think men who play in bands and do it well also do well with women. Women find mastery of a skill very attractive and musicians are well placed to show that mastery and also the confidence to get on stage. Women like confidence. Also make sure you're in good shape. Don't let yourself get fat. Its unattractive and will make you look even shorter due to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 01:10 PM
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This is just anecdotal but I've known a few men be physically assaulted by female partners or exes (not sexually but violently) and every single one reported it to the police straight away. No messing. And the police arrested her. Whereas many women I know have been assaulted by partners but don't report it until it's escalated to a dangerous level.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:14 PM
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Often the man has left, but doesn't bother to file. Happened with me, but I'm stubborn and refused to file, told him if he wanted the divorce he should file. Took him 5 years. I can see why women file just to get it over with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 07:29 AM
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My name is because I have several nocturnal spawn. Queen isn't a word we use in the UK to describe women really. Its more a US saying. We have an actual Queen and anyone who likens themselves to royalty looks a bit silly. It is interesting to me that initially you have described yourself as wanting a supportive house husband role to a high flying woman, but when we dig down, what you really want/have is multiple casual relationships without commitment. A sensible woman isn't going to want a seri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 07:31 AM
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You can see what I look like. My avatar is me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:20 AM
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There's nothing modern about FWB. Its weasel words used by people who want to keep their options open with other people. BF/GF doesn't lead to marriage but does involve exclusivity. FWB usually has nothing to do with friendship. People should just take lovers and have done with it if that's what they want. I have had plenty of young men approach me being upfront about wanting sex. They think because I'm older they can offer less to me than a woman their own age could demand. Usually it's a licen…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:33 AM
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Well isn't a FWB relationship as you describe it just a boyfriend/girlfriend? Not everyone wants to marry. Most younger men don't approach woman as PUA. They know the women are experienced enough to see through it. What is more common is for the man to be frank that he only wants sex. He assumes because of the age gap the woman will go for that, but often she wants more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:57 PM
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Nothing wrong with shooting your shot. If you're going 40+ many women of that age are overlooked by high flying men of a similar age, so they aren't always full of offers
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:53 PM
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You wouldn't date me I can assure you. I'm a divorcee with a job that is slightly above the average for the area, but not enough to support another adult on top of my children. I have a house and a car partly because I was lucky enough to buy when things were cheap and partly down to years of frugal living. I adore younger men and yes they are better looking and a lot less bossy than the men my age. But none of them would seriously date me. They'd go for a pump and dump. The issue is as much tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:39 AM
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I think the issue is that most people date within their own social class. So a high flying woman will probably be upper middle class with an education from a top university. She will date her male equivalent because those are the men she knows and is likely to meet. For her to even meet a mechanic or a plumber socially would be unlikely. Most tradesmen don't have trouble dating, they date their female equivalent. However the female equivalent jobs tend to pay less than the traditional male roles…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:10 AM
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Over here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:36 PM
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I dream of such a man! I'm not really a high flyer though, I'm a full time worker with my own house, car etc. But a man being younger than me, poorer than me isn't an issue. In fact I prefer it that way. I would need him to have a job, but it doesn't need to be highly paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:31 PM
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You are correct, but that isn't the logical inconsistency the "abortion should be banned except rape" people are having. They already don't believe in a woman's bodily autonomy and are consistent in that, because they think others should be able to police what the woman does with her body and she has to be "allowed" to do with her body as she sees fit. Slightly off topic, but I'm in the UK and we don't have bodily autonomy here after death.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/05/21 12:34 PM
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Its a logical inconsistency to be against abortion but think is ok after a rape. Either you believe the foetus is a person or you don't. People who hold the view that abortion is only ok after rape are misogynists. Possibly even more so than those who are against it under all circumstances.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/05/21 10:02 AM
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All the men on that scale from 4 upwards are attractive. 2 & 3 could be attractive with a bit of work - braces on teeth, well fitting fashionable glasses, decent haircut and clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 04:50 PM
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He's a good looking man. I would say an 8 or a 9 when he's slimmer but still above average even when fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 04:45 PM
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Must be marvellous to go through life with that level of certainty and/or the ability to see into the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 05:38 PM
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They are free to make that decision. But it is more likely they will reverse it. We are all free to do stuff and possibly make mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 05:32 PM
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The problem I've found is that I still was left with all the childcare, cooking etc after divorce. He could chuck some child maintenance my way and it's all taken care of. He is much better off financially this way. The child maintenance is 20% of his salary. I know when we were together he paid much more than this to provide for his children. He can play Disney dad eow and the rest of his life is easy. 80% of his salary just to keep one man. Divorce has made things easier for him and even harde…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/05/21 10:48 AM
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A lot of women would think him too tall. 6'7" is unusual and would eliminate most short or average height women. 6' - 6'4" is probably the best height for generating matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:03 PM
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After 2-3 months of dating I would definitely get emotionally involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:59 PM
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Seems like a lose/lose senario to me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:53 PM
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Or you can fuck him straight away and see if he stays around. That way if he doesn't you haven't risked emotional involvement
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:51 AM
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Believe me, most young men will go wayyyy over 30
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:49 AM
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I've posted this before but I play wrestle with my 2 sons. I'm still taller than both of them and Im at least 4 stone heavier. They're slight, skinny boys. The 14 year old can now take me down easily. I can still beat his 11 year old brother, but I can't see that lasting more than another year or 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:43 PM
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Must be women who don't have brothers
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:29 PM
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Tbf most of the freakishly strong female characters in movies are superheroes. They're not mortals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:27 PM
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I play wrestle with my 2 sons. I'm still taller than both of them and Im at least 4 stone heavier. They're slight, skinny boys. The 14 year old can now take me down easily. I can still beat his 11 year old brother, but I can't see that lasting more than another year or 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 09:23 AM
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I did date a virgin in my 20s. Now considering the age of the men I date an n count of 0 would be unlikely, but it wouldn't put me off on its own. The lack of relationship experience in a man of that age group might. If a man approaching 40 has never had a relationship, there might be a reason why that I couldn't deal with, but I'd be open minded. Certainly my experience with a virgin man when I was in my 20s was good. We had a relationship for over a year.He was willing to learn and I was happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:48 PM
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I'm not put off by a low n count. I am slightly put off by a very high n count, although probably not enough to not date him if we were a good match. I only date men over 30 so a potentially off putting high n count for that age group would be well into double figures - like 40 or 50. I have dated a virgin when I was in my 20s and it wasn't an issue at all. My own n count is less than 15 and I'm a long way past my 40th birthday.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 04:48 PM
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Men usually drop their female friends once they have a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 10:33 AM
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I'd trade. I think I'd have an easier time dating as a man. I'm late 40s, tall,in good shape, have a nice car and own a house. While younger men might have a disadvantage in dating I reckon by late 40s the balance has tipped in favour of the man, especially if he's kept in shape and is solvent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:10 PM
2

It is possible for a woman to both enjoy a sexual encounter she has and be upset that the man doesn't want to see her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:28 AM
0

Not everyone is young.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 03:21 PM
22

You all know that being married isn't necessarily a permanent condition? You can settle down in your 20s and still end up single in your 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 11:57 AM
4

Probably not. The data is from 1996 so the youngest of that cohort would now be 43. This is UK and Dutch data tho. Average heights in the US tend to be slightly lower due to a large population where their ancestors immigrated into the US from populations with shorter stature than the UK or the Netherlands. A large proportion of Redditors are from the US.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/21 11:32 AM
10

I don't have data for specific age ranges, but I do have data for the whole male population in the 1990s. The UK average for men was 5ft 9 and the Dutch average 5ft 10.5 The averages have increased a little since then but not more than an inch ( over whole populations change happens slowly) and the Dutch population is the tallest in Europe by a long way.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/21 09:11 AM
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No it isn't. I have the data in front of me all day at work. If you're referring to a wikipedia article, that is estimations based on growth rates for teenagers and assumes 19 year old men. The older population isn't so tall.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/21 08:33 AM
69

You must be Dutch
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/21 12:07 AM
4

Nope. Not attracted to women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 08:35 PM
7

It's worth thinking about the fact that women aren't evolved to ovulate every month for years and years either. Stone age woman would have had her first baby in her teens, probably about one pregnancy every 3 years after that and would have breastfed which suppresses ovulation. Things like ovarian cysts are less common in women who take the pill, so are heavy periods and anemia and arguably the combined pill more closely mimics the "natural" state than not using hormonal contraption. Clearly hav…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 12:33 AM
1

I've had 2 profiles before with 2 different ages. One was set up through Facebook, one via my phone number. Phone number one had an incorrect age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 09:48 PM
1

You'd have to set up a new profile using a different phone number. It can be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 09:44 PM
3

Change your age to 29. See what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 09:29 PM
3

A lot of the good looking women in your age bracket have settled down and are off the market. The younger women are filtering you out now you're 30. On tinder your job/income don't matter a great deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 12:39 PM
2

My ex husband probably was. He is 6ft tall, skinny rather than muscular, but people used to tell him he looked like a certain famous actor, unprompted. Looking back, I was a good looking woman myself though. Now I'm older I certainly can't attract top 20% of men for a relationship, even though I'm still in good shape. I could still attract them for casual if I wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 08:26 AM
7

Tbh maybe robot companions wouldn't be a bad thing for both sexes. Would keep the men who just want sex happy. And women could get their needs met as well. I'm all in favour.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/03/21 04:59 PM
34

Hmm. I was quite envious of the woman in Terminator Dark Fate who had been living with the Arnold Schwarzenegger terminator as a surrogate husband. He looked really useful to have around. And I remember in Terminator 2 the Linda Hamilton character musing that the terminator made a much better father to her son than any of the boyfriends she had previously. "Watching John with the machine, it was suddenly so clear. The terminator, would never stop. It would never leave him, and it would never hur…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/03/21 08:14 AM
1

Dad bod is one thing. Being several stone overweight with a big beer gut is something else. Sadly the majority of men over 40 seem to fall into the latter category. Like I'm not deluded. I don't expect a man over 40 to have visible abs or even a flat stomach ( although that's still achievable if he works at it). But there does come a point where it's just too much weight to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:28 AM
2

Beckham may have been a Chad but he wasn't heavily muscled especially as a young man. And none of us expected to go out with a man like Beckham, he was a celebrity crush. The boys we went out with were very ordinary. My first boyfriend was about 5ft 6. Taller men were popular but without internet dating no one really knew whether a man was 5ft 10 or 6ft and no one really cared. To be fair I think everyone is more picky now. In the 80s you went out with people you socialised with. There was no in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 09:09 PM
2

I did. Most men were fairly skinny. As an example male celebrities that were considered attractive tended to be people like a young David Beckham - that sort of figure. I don't remember any of my friends caring much about finances, but I don't come from a middle class background and most of the men we met IRL were from a similar background. Obviously this is before the internet so you tended to only meet people of similar social backgrounds who you met through your social circle. None of us woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 08:34 PM
2

Steroid use. Putting on so much bulk it strains the heart. Look at Jon Paul Sigmarsson as a famous example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:47 PM
2

Buff yeah. But not so heavily muscled they’re as wide as they are tall. That’s OTT If you put on too much muscle it actually makes you look shorter due to perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:01 PM
2

Well spotted Sherlock. And the beauty of being 50 is that you know a lot of people your children's ages teens/20s and hear what they like. To be fair I am not in the US so standards are probably different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:51 PM
1

Yeah. I am familiar with this. And for women, even athletic women muscle is even less likely to put them in the overweight category. You can see my build in my profile picture but most men my age don't have the male equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:41 PM
1

No. You're hot. And your bmi is about 25, not really in the overweight category. Most of the people complaining bmi is wrong for athletes however are not athletic!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:34 PM
3

We tend to be attracted to what is healthy. A lean muscled man is attractive, yes. After that point has been reached any further muscle gain primarily impresses other men more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:13 PM
2

Suit yourself. But a lot of men with an overweight bmi due to having excess muscle aren't actually healthy. That weight puts a strain on your heart whether it's fat or muscle. Not to mention steroid use. Have a look at the longevity of some of the winners of the Strongman competitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:09 PM
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Aren't a lot of the men in that age group also fat? So your competition for the slimmer women should be less. I kind of understand your issue. I'm over 40 and not attracted to fat men. Most of the men in my age group are fat. I've stayed a healthy weight and prefer a man who is similar. There aren't many out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:00 PM
3

Well I don't like them and I know a lot of women who don't. I'm talking overly muscled with a thick neck, not lean muscle. The kind of muscle that has stopped being healthy and started to be a health issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:54 PM
1

Are you dutch?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:52 PM
4

To a lot of women an overly muscled man is as unattractive as a fat one. And it isn't even healthy once you get past a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:49 PM
19

It's because the men no longer try to hit on them when they're just being friendly or kind. So they can safely be friendly and kind to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 11:48 PM
5

There are a lot of fat men too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 09:24 PM
2

I'm not the OP but... My baseline threshold is - as tall as me or taller (5ft 6+). Not overweight. Not overly muscled like a bodybuilder. Long limbs. Good hygiene. No visible missing or decayed teeth. No tattoos on hands, face or neck. Additional nice to have - full head of hair. Flat stomach (visible abs not necessary). Straight teeth. May find physically attractive, but wouldn't date - men under mid 20s. (because I'm too old for them. I would and did date them when I was younger). Are these ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 12:36 PM
1

It is possible for a caucasian to think some other ethnicities look a lot younger than they really are yes, and darker skin is better protected from the aging effects of the sun. But I would think that a young korean would recognise the age of other people of their own country of origin. It's only unfamiliarity with what age looks like on people of other ethnicities in caucasians that makes them mistake the age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:41 AM
1

Yeah. No one IRL looks more than about 5 years younger than they are. But it is possible to look good for your age and these types can date younger. But they're usually people who always looked good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 02:06 PM
2

Tbf a lot of them are lying and they're older than they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 01:49 PM
8

I think Brad Pitt is still hot AF. But I'm in my 40s. To my teenage daughter, he looks like a middle aged man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 01:35 PM
2

Again, happy people are silent so you notice them less
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:28 AM
2

You see a skewed sample complaining online though. People who are happy tend to be absent from relationship message boards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:12 AM
2

Do women make bad choices persistently?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:09 AM
1

Shy, unconfident men can treat you as badly as any other man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 09:28 PM
3

Gay men get laid. At a much higher rate than hetero men. Because they can. There are also a number of bisexual men with large n counts of mostly make partners
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:29 AM
17

If you banter back to a man the way he banters with his male friends he often gets offended, I noticed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 09:08 PM
3

I know I can't be close friends with an unattached man without falling for him. If I like him enough to be friends, I will develop feelings and start to hope for more, even if I didn't find him attractive initially. This doesn't happen with men who are not single because I know from the start not to get my hopes up and a man who indicated he was prepared to cheat would not be someone I would find attractive anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:18 PM
3

I adore male attention, provided it's in a non threatening or pushy way. It's probably more important to me as I've got older, because it's not so easy to get these days. I value the health of myself and my family above everything, but male attention is something very important to me. I'm a feminist, but definitely not a man hater.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:47 PM
2

So be the next best option, so the girls will turn to you after Chad has done with them or rejected them. And there will always be a few girls who don't want to compete for Chad, knowing that he won't be faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:59 PM
2

Reproduction. Which influences massive portions of your life whether or not you personally choose to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:26 PM
6

True. Money doesn't buy you the opportunity to treat me badly. One of the reasons I avoid men with money. I find agreeing with men that I see them as poor and that's what I actually like takes the wind out of their sails. They want the woman to come over all " nooo I'm not that important/rich, I'm sure you're much more accomplished than me" Nah mate, I see you. Those who don't try this tactic but also don't hide their circumstances are a better bet.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 03:37 PM
14

I usually respond "because I like them young and poor" This is actually true. But I'm old enough not to want marriage or children. And I want him to know I feel I've got the upper hand right from the start.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 11:39 AM
9

You can't. A person you are having sex with and also sharing friendship type stuff with is a relationship. The only way to have casual sex and minimise emotional exposure is to take lovers who have nothing to do with the rest of your life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/10/20 11:01 PM
28

The only thing I would say is that a HVM won't want to fuck a married woman, so I hope she hasn't fallen for any of these men, because they're likely as unsuitable as her husband.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/20 09:49 AM
7

I have children, I am willing to date men with children but pictures of children do not belong on a dating site , no matter whose they are. Automatic left swipe. Tells of poor judgement right there.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/20 11:16 AM
4

Enjoy it while you can.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/20 08:13 PM
11

My first thought is that this isn't true, but sadly I know men like this do exist. I'm willing to bet if is true though he has exhibited controlling behavior before, she just didn't recognize it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/08/20 02:22 PM
13

Sadly some men will marry women they don't love, because she's a good catch.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/08/20 11:55 AM
19

My ex husband asked me to contribute for fuel for his car when we went to visit his parents before we were married. His parents who I didn't even want to visit. I refused, but I wish I'd heeded this red flag and not married him. He is a massively selfish man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/08/20 04:43 PM
14

Ah that makes sense. The Dutch are the tallest people in the world 👍
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/08/20 08:40 PM
14

Are you Dutch?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/08/20 08:38 PM
8

I don't understand why you married him if you were the one earning the money. Didn't you risk having to pay him off?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/08/20 09:44 PM
3

This is Tinder. If you don't swipe on him he can't message you. I sincerely hope noone swipes on him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 07:19 PM
42

It's correct to say deleting the app doesn't delete your profile. You have to physically delete the profile. And people you swiped on previously can still match you if they swipe on you. The profile is still on there. However it certainly doesn't upload new pictures.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/07/20 06:55 PM
1

Ah. Most of the online dating sites don't allow pictures in the chat, for this reason. I've never had a dodgy picture on the sites either. Its when you move to WhatsApp they like to send them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/07/20 08:07 AM
5

Im surprised you haven't had any, some men are actually turned on by the thought of their dick pics bring circulated. I've found the threat of this has only served to encourage them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 07:22 PM
2

When I was 21 I dated men of 18/19. Now I'm 49 I look at most of the men in their 40s and think they look too old for me. But I do have to be realistic - I know a man of 30 isn't going to want a relationship with me. It does irritate me that my male contemporaries are not similarly realistic.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/07/20 12:20 PM
9

Men in their 30s still look good to me. But I'm 49 😂. I never liked them in my 20s. And the fact I conceived my children easily may have been because I had a slightly younger husband. He was a man of poor character, but at least fertile and healthy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/07/20 09:46 AM
11

Not many adults of any race naturally have blond hair and green eyes. Brown is the most common hair colour for all races. Most adult blonds have artificially coloured hair. And green eyes is an uncommon colour for most races.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/07/20 09:47 AM
15

I think you're missing the point. The characteristics are random.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/07/20 09:24 AM
34

I think Radical feminism is the most closely aligned to FDS. The stuff about performing feminity aside Radical Feminism doesn't believe in absolute equality of treatment between the sexes as it recognises that we are not operating in an equal environment. Whether that is because of society or biology may be an arguing point between Rad Femmes and FDS, but for the purposes of actions the reasons behind them are irrelevant.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/06/20 01:19 PM
8

Problem with this method is ovulation week is the week most women have the highest sex drive. Clever little trick of nature. There is no way I'd have the discipline to stick to the rhythm method - I can't think about anything other than sex for 2/3 days around ovulation.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/06/20 09:16 AM
6

Yeah I'd agree, a shy nerdy guy is as likely to treat you badly as any other man. I occasionally do casual. I'm past the age of wanting to get married and I won't be having more children. I go as young and as hot as I can. Older men with beer guts don't treat you any better than the young hot men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/06/20 10:12 PM
6

I'm willing to bet a gay man wouldn't turn down a BJ from a woman either. It's not like he has to touch her body even.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/06/20 08:22 PM
3

Usually means she's met someone else.
/r/seduction07/03/20 11:17 AM
3

I suspect she's had her fingers burned before with guys who text all the time and then lose interest. If she's agreed to dates with you she's interested. She just doesn't want to conduct a relationship via text.
/r/seduction07/03/20 11:16 AM
3

Which movie is this?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/20 12:54 PM
30

I wouldn't include Robert Baratheon and Cersei Lannister from Game of Thrones. It's made quite clear this couple had an arranged marriage and live separate lives. They didn't get together on the basis of attraction.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/20 12:51 PM
6

Oh don't get me wrong, I've had plenty of disappointing sex too. And in a relationship it can get stale. But when it's good, it's very very good which seems to make having sex with a new man worth a try.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 08:03 PM
11

Yeah, I wouldn't deny this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 08:00 PM
82

See I don't agree with this. With a good lover who you actually fancy sex is good. I have sexual experiences I still think about years on. After a night of good sex I feel about 10 feet tall and fabulous for the next 24 hours. But I admit most men don't give good sex. Less than 50% , especially on a first encounter.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 06:38 PM
5

Seems a bit young, but they're definitely off the market by their 40s. Also good men who want relationships don't stay single for long. They get snapped up shortly after coming onto the dating scene.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 09:39 AM
23

I think it's very harsh to walk out of a dinner date with someone just because he's boring or you've decided he's not your type. It doesn't necessarily mean he's done anything wrong. I agree that if you're doing online dating and you've not met the man before, a quick coffee can prevent either of you wasting each other's time. I've often met men from online dating and within minutes I think 'nope'. It would be torture to have to sit through a whole meal with them
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/20 10:34 PM
147

"Straightforward" - I am rude to people
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/02/20 04:09 PM
20

It's only worth trying the communication route if 1) You've not already communicated clearly. Relying on hints or just hoping he'll notice won't work and 2) He is very young and/or inexperienced in relationships. Older men will either know what they're doing and don't care or they've just picked up bad relationship habits and trying to train them out of them is a waste of time. So for someone young I'd try talking. Once. But you've got to be prepared to make it clear it's a dealbreaker and be pr…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/02/20 02:20 PM
26

It's probably financial. A lot of divorced women are poor in old age. Being so poor you can't have a social life is no fun. Plus he probably does stuff like maintenance work around the house/car that she can't do. Yeah, she could pay someone, but - if poor on divorce, maybe not. If he's a lazy slob when he's young that is the time to bail out, because when you're in your 60s it might be too late
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/02/20 11:59 AM
42

The risks are skewed towards the child, not the mother. There is a higher risk of miscarriage and of chomosomal abnormalities. Twins is an abnormality in humans albeit not a serious one in modern society. But pre modern medicine many twins would not have survived as they tend to be premature with low birth weight.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/02/20 06:03 PM
3

The secret is to take lovers who have nothing to do with your life. Who you don't see day to day. Not a friend. Not anyone in your social circle. And in my case I wouldn't do this with anyone close to my age. That way it is much easier to remain emotionally detached. A man who was my friend who expressed sexual interest would have to be a boyfriend not a lover or I'm not interested. And I do wonder if the lowering of oestrogen as I approach the menopause has a lot to do with my remaining emotion…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/02/20 08:18 AM
4

Well thank you. The one advantage of aging I've found is that I can now separate sex from emotion much easier than I could when I was younger. And I know my boundaries to protect my emotions. No boyfriend stuff unless he's an actual boyfriend.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/20 10:33 PM
4

Tinder. No they're not exclusive. We have no relationship outside of sex. They text me when they're free and if I'm free and fancy seeing one of them I invite him round. I use condoms, but obviously it's not totally risk free, albeit I don't have to worry about my future fertility. It's better than not ever having sex, but with arrangements like these neither the man or I are a priority in the life of each other, so occasions when we meet are not regular or frequent as for both of us work, frien…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/20 07:52 PM
27

I will only do this with men much younger than me. That way a relationship is out of the question on both sides and nobody can get the wrong idea. I wouldn't do this if I were looking for marriage and children, but I'm 49 so it's not an issue. My lovers tend to be aged about 30 and I don't do any boyfriend type things with them to ensure no feelings get caught. No dinner, no cuddling in front of the tv, no emotional support. Oh and I do call them lovers rather than FWB as I find the phrase FWB a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/20 02:51 PM
19

Mmm. I had one of those. He still cheated and left me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/20 11:00 AM
35

In my experience a man crying at work gets sent home sick with sympathy due to his obvious emotional distress, where a woman doing similar is sneered at for being unprofessional
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/20 05:16 PM
3

Yes. Most men do. Male friends have confirmed it. And since I got older, I've noticed I do it to an extent. I blame my perimenopausal hormones which are trying to convince me it's my last chance to conceive. It didn't happen when I was in my teens and 20s, but it does now in my 40s. I was definitely what is now termed as Demisexual when younger, but now I can have sex easily with little emotion, it's strange.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/20 08:11 AM
1

Quite
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/20 12:32 AM
20

Demisexual seems to be the default female setting. Men tend to be the ones who experience attraction without emotion as their default. I don't think it's to do with porn, it has always been this way. Obviously there are some women who don't need emotional connection, and some men that do, but generally it's the other way around
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/20 09:28 PM
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