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2

And whats after paying and fetting no results?
/r/seduction25/07/26 02:08 AM
8

Theres another level above being friendly and chatty that take you to being able to be a boyfriend Im like op. Good in all areas of my life but dating.
/r/seduction25/07/26 02:07 AM
3

Just because I talk to women doesnt mean I don't want a girlfriend. What do you mean by that?
/r/seduction23/07/26 11:55 PM
1

Dude, Im trying
/r/seduction23/07/26 09:08 PM
1

How is that an excuse? I have literally been told by every girl that they only see me as a friend. Even girls who I find repulsive.
/r/seduction23/07/26 09:06 PM
1

What if ugly women only see you as a friend?
/r/seduction23/07/26 09:01 PM
1

At least me. While I will admit that I cant flirt, but I will admit that I go out and try to meet people as often as I can, usually 3 to 4 times a week.
/r/seduction23/07/26 09:00 PM
1

I wish...
/r/seduction23/07/26 08:58 PM
18

Some of us talk to lots of women and are still single.
/r/seduction23/07/26 08:57 PM
3

Living life, work, travel, friends, hobbies, working out. Idk, just loving life.
/r/seduction23/07/26 08:55 PM
1

Those people who do like me only like me as a friend. I just wish one of them would like more than a friend someday
/r/seduction20/07/26 10:01 PM
1

Im skinny, bad at flirting and only give off friend vibes thus Im always in the friendzone
/r/seduction20/07/26 10:01 PM
2

what if who I am isnt what girls are interested in or attracted to? The more I lean into who I actually am, the more alone and less options I have
/r/seduction19/07/26 10:35 PM
1

Adult lego collector guilty as charged. But seriously I have other hobbies. Climbing skiing, running and hunting
/r/seduction16/07/26 12:24 AM
2

Oof. I have never had a woman approach me or give me IOIs
/r/seduction15/07/26 11:25 PM
2

Im a pretty ugly guy. I work out daily and in really good shape. Im educated, have 3 degrees and take care od myself. I have hobbies and interests.
/r/seduction15/07/26 04:01 PM
8

How do you even know your league?
/r/seduction15/07/26 02:04 PM
6

At 19, i was just like you and took the same steps as you. Now im 29 and i still have never been on a date. But i have a social life of dreams. Now what?
/r/seduction14/07/26 11:21 PM
1

How did you do it?
/r/seduction14/07/26 10:28 PM
3

Then your 28 and still hopelessly single like me.
/r/seduction14/07/26 10:25 PM
-5

The book is really only useful for people who dont know how to be an adult. Any normal person wont get anything from it.
/r/seduction14/07/26 10:24 PM
1

Im like op, but 28. I was focusing on my 3 degrees in college, working so I could graduate debt free, first job out of school was a consistent 80 to 90 hour weeks. I also spent a combined year in there hitchhiking and backpacking around the west coast.
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:56 PM
1

What did you work on?
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:44 PM
3

How do you treat a girl like a bro and not get friendzoned?
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:40 PM
2

How do you even find a coach?
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:19 PM
1

How do you build self esteem after a decade of having none?
/r/seduction13/07/26 02:10 AM
1

1 match a month is amazing. You must be a model
/r/seduction09/07/26 09:57 PM
1

Meanwhile most of is arent even getting matches so we dont even have the chance to get a number.
/r/seduction09/07/26 09:57 PM
1

Thats me, but women arent interested in me
/r/seduction04/07/26 03:54 AM
1

How do you go from doing all that and having friends to getting girls to notice you?
/r/seduction03/07/26 11:33 PM
0

Even when I lived in larger cities or visit larger cities, I almost never see women in their 20s who aren't married.
/r/seduction01/07/26 12:32 AM
-2

Who says I have a boring social life? When I turn 35, I will just find a wife from overseas.
/r/seduction30/06/26 11:49 PM
0

Nah, I just missed my chance. I am in a smaller city with my dream job in my dream location. My sister is in denver and she is the only single girl she knows of. Its the same thi g everywhere.
/r/seduction30/06/26 11:46 PM
0

The problem with church is that no girls are single past 21 and Im 28. Here is my schedule this week Monday is volleyball, Tuesday is run club, wed is rock climbing. Thursday is church group. And friday is trivia at a bar.
/r/seduction30/06/26 11:36 PM
2

Ive been out of college 6 years now Im in sport clubs, church groups, and am always out doing things. Malls are dead. Coffee shops are usually empty, occasionally an older couple sitting down, but everyone else is in and out quickly. Libraries are for the homeless. Bars are guys and couples.
/r/seduction30/06/26 11:22 PM
7

Thats assuming single girls are at the same places I go. Maybe I just have bad luck, but I only ever see older people, guys, or moms with kids.
/r/seduction30/06/26 10:53 PM
-1

Idk, probably. But maybe im not above average like I think I am
/r/seduction26/06/26 11:24 PM
1

Even if your in shape and slightly above average looking you will have 0 chance
/r/seduction26/06/26 11:17 PM
19

I wish. Im those things and invisible to women
/r/seduction18/06/26 11:04 PM
2

I have tried to often in the past, but over the last few years, I have stopped trying and just have been myself. I also have no ability to "seduce" people. Influence? Yes, but not seduce. At the end of the day, your amount of charisma comes from how attractive you are and I am not attractive.
/r/seduction14/06/26 07:35 PM
2

I wouldnt say that I have improved much. Granted I am more comfortable, but thats because 28 year old me is mature and 14/15 year old me was in that awkward teen phase. I have done a lot in my life so obviously I have a more interesting life now at 28 than when I was 18. But the overall skill set is largely the same I believe. I'm as social, personable, and good at conversation as I have ever been, but not anymore flirty or charming.
/r/seduction14/06/26 07:24 PM
2

True. How long does that normally take to happen? I'm going on 10 years of being super social and I am no more charming than I was in high school. Is it something that could take 15 to 20 years?
/r/seduction14/06/26 07:10 PM
2

How do you go from being social every day to becoming charming?
/r/seduction14/06/26 06:50 PM
-1

Lack of women
/r/seduction12/06/26 07:28 PM
1

Oh I'm not bothered, just annoyed because im attracted to less than 1% of women I see and it seems that everyone is marred by their late 20s now that Im 28
/r/seduction06/06/26 05:57 PM
2

By coincidence the ones I am attracted to are married or in a relationship. Like today, saw a cuteish girl at the farmers market and upon a second look she was wearing a ring and talking to her kids.
/r/seduction06/06/26 05:54 PM
12

Ive never hugged a girl
/r/seduction06/06/26 05:52 PM
10

You guys are getting hugs?
/r/seduction06/06/26 05:52 PM
1

Unfortunately the very few women who I see who im actually attracted to are married.
/r/seduction06/06/26 05:45 PM
2

But who? Especially when the majority of people you see arent even available options.
/r/seduction06/06/26 12:25 AM
2

Just because I know that someone is attractive doesnt mean that I am attracted to them. Look up demisexual.
/r/seduction04/06/26 07:01 PM
3

It doesnt work like that for me. I tend to like girls only once I get to know them. Then I stsrt to be interested in them.
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:46 PM
2

Dont want to dox myself but its a ski resort/trourist town.
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:49 PM
2

Last night I played pickleball with friends at my community park and aside from us in our 20s and 30s, the other 20 people were in middle school. My run club is 7 guys and 2 married girls normally. Farmers markets are usually families or older people. Same with the local city beach at the lake.
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:27 PM
3

Where ar you even finding 3 single women in a day? I maybe have an hour or two in the evenings to do things, and if I go somewhere I almost always see families, older people, or guys.
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:14 PM
2

How do you approach earlier if you dont know if your attracted to a girl until you know them a bit?
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:12 PM
1

The question remains, where do you find volume if the vast majority of women you see are 30 years older or married.
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:12 PM
15

The question remains, where do you find volume if the vast majority of women you see are 30 years older or married.
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:11 PM
1

Northwest montana. If there are more women, i dont know where they are
/r/seduction29/05/26 04:56 PM
1

At least in my area I meet 5 times as many guys as girls
/r/seduction29/05/26 04:04 PM
2

A couple times a year, yes. But honestly, I just need to wait 15 years until im in my 40s and can catch a divorce.
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:54 PM
2

I know. I wish I could afford to go back to college and be smart enough to pass engineering or computer classes.
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:45 PM
1

Only if there is a normal guy to girl ratio.
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:42 PM
2

Sadly thats not always an option. A lot of us work in industries that are only in smaller cities
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:41 PM
10

Just looked them up. They all look too fake for me to think they are cute or attractive.
/r/seduction18/05/26 09:43 PM
15

Then what is the real answer?
/r/seduction11/05/26 03:24 PM
11

What if you have no traumas or self esteem issues but still struggle to learn anything?
/r/seduction10/05/26 12:39 PM
1

Unfortunately the longer I am friends with a girl, the more likely I am to start finding them attractive
/r/seduction01/05/26 08:22 PM
1

So guys shouldn't have platonic girl friends?
/r/seduction01/05/26 06:50 PM
1

I am in really good shape. Like run ultramarathons in the mountains and hike 20 miles with 70 pounds sort of shape. I dress well, general style is outdoorsy hipster. I am trying super hard to gain weight since I am on the slim side. But aside from that, I dont know where to start with looksmaxxing.
/r/seduction01/05/26 02:25 PM
2

I remember that post. Looked it up and even a mod called it out for being cringy
/r/seduction30/04/26 12:44 PM
1

I am 27
/r/seduction30/04/26 11:01 AM
1

How do I seduce women who think I am ugly or who only see me as a friend?
/r/seduction30/04/26 04:14 AM
4

Yes, but girls have to be interested in me for it to work
/r/seduction30/04/26 02:04 AM
7

How do I be more sexual but not be creepy? I have always struggled with flirting and being direct just leads to the "i only see you as a friend" conversation. Even my attempts to give a girl a friendly hug has always failed. Never been on a date or even hugged a girl
/r/seduction30/04/26 01:48 AM
2

Girls want to do those things with me, as a friend. Getting further is the struggle
/r/seduction30/04/26 01:29 AM
10

Dude, I live a bad ass life. I am well known and well liked in my community. People want to do things with me. I love my life. I love who I am. I am in a very good spot in life.
/r/seduction30/04/26 01:12 AM
3

Thats easy. I make friends easily. Doesnt mean that any of them are interested in me or are single.
/r/seduction30/04/26 01:10 AM
3

Yes
/r/seduction30/04/26 01:04 AM
12

Oh I have that already. I just need to make the jump from being the friend to being someone people want to go on a date with.
/r/seduction30/04/26 12:26 AM
27

How can you fake preselection if you have none?
/r/seduction29/04/26 11:39 PM
2

I guess I have never had a girl like me
/r/seduction29/04/26 04:19 AM
1

I can do it with guys no problem. Its the fact that girls are not interested in me that way. So I dont pass the looks requirements in order to be allowed to be plauful with them. Keep in mind that I have never even hugged a girl because my girl friends dont hug guys who they are not in relationships with. I have aready accepted and have prepped for a life alone.
/r/seduction28/04/26 02:25 PM
1

I dont know how to be playful. What lines or scripts do you follow? Anytime I have tried with a girl, she has shut me down so quickly. Girls feel like a brick wall. No feedback whatsoever when I talk to them. All transactional friendships.
/r/seduction28/04/26 01:52 PM
1

Nope, never had that. Have good girl friends, but its a serious vibe, always have been. Girls have never been playful with me.
/r/seduction28/04/26 01:43 PM
1

I don't think i have ever experienced that
/r/seduction28/04/26 01:27 AM
1

What is sexual energy?
/r/seduction28/04/26 12:35 AM
1

I am
/r/seduction27/04/26 11:30 PM
1

I wish
/r/seduction27/04/26 11:12 PM
-1

We must have different friends, because I have never seen a girl hug a guy who they wernt dating or married to.
/r/seduction27/04/26 10:18 PM
1

Yes, I have always been told that they dont hug guys who they arent in a relationship with. And sadly thats true. They dont hug other guys friends as well.
/r/seduction27/04/26 10:14 PM
3

I do 4 days a week. I also run ultramarathons
/r/seduction27/04/26 09:55 PM
1

I am 6'2" and have never hugged a girl...
/r/seduction27/04/26 09:53 PM
2

Then they turn you down because your not friendly
/r/seduction23/04/26 08:04 PM
9

I'm decent looking, outgoing, friendly and extremely social. I have never had a woman pursue me or even show the slightest bit of interest in me.
/r/seduction22/04/26 04:11 AM
2

How do you do that but not be seen as a friend all the time?
/r/seduction21/04/26 04:30 PM
1

I tried super hard to get a date when I was in college, but I failed. Grad school isnt really worth it in my field and would be way too expensive and I would never pay it off.
/r/seduction19/04/26 11:55 PM
1

So are you just screwed if you work in an industry that's only in more rural areas?
/r/seduction19/04/26 09:44 PM
1

I know someday I will get results. I will just keep trying, even if it takes me thousands of more approaches.
/r/seduction12/04/26 08:46 PM
2

How do you turn good conversations into numbers? Because I ca have all the good conversations in the world, but every time I ask for a number I am turned down.
/r/seduction12/04/26 06:43 PM
1

I love it and wouldn't trade it for the world though
/r/seduction11/04/26 03:39 PM
12

Eh, often times I truly have no energy. 10 hours of a hard labor job, followed by an hour commute home, I just want to sleep
/r/seduction11/04/26 01:24 PM
1

How did parents screw someone up?
/r/seduction06/04/26 10:21 PM
-3

Is she older than 21? If so she isnt single
/r/seduction06/04/26 03:53 PM
3

Lol nope. Plus I am pretty sure I would have even less options in my area if I was gay
/r/seduction02/04/26 02:42 PM
46

27 year old here. PNW/northern rockies. I have never touched a girl
/r/seduction02/04/26 12:50 AM
16

So what happens to us whos whole lives revolve being in a more rural or smaller city?o would kill myself in a city
/r/seduction01/04/26 11:38 PM
1

Thanks. I just know that I am fighting an uphill battle since I am niche in what I am looking for, and I am not attracted to women until I have been friends for a long time first. I jave NEVER made friends with a woman to ge with her later!!!!!!!! Even when I did 100% random approaches, I was rejected since they could tell that was not interested in them.
/r/seduction01/04/26 10:18 PM
2

I try to. Its difficult to get feedback that is actionable when your only told that they arent attracted to you or dont see you that way. The few times I got actual feedback was when I was in college and was told that my flirting was too sexual. And that was for me giving compliments
/r/seduction01/04/26 07:41 PM
2

I used to hate myself because no one was interested in me. Now I am ok because why would I want to be with anyone who doesnt want me? Moving isnt happening. I love the life I have built for myself here. I enjoy my girl friends, and maybe someday one of them will like me back.
/r/seduction01/04/26 07:34 PM
3

Thanks. I am trying with those steps. I love who I am and I feel 100% that women should be interested in me. Though even with those thoughts, its hard to shift the mindset when hundreds of women have turned me down and made me feel invisible. Its getting harder and harder since I live in a smaller city and I dont want to ruin my reputation by approaching and looking desperate by asking out all the girls who arent married by my age
/r/seduction01/04/26 07:26 PM
1

How do you adopt that mindset when your whole life experiences show otherwise?
/r/seduction01/04/26 07:06 PM
2

Just saying that nearly everything triggers rhe nwfw censor.
/r/seduction01/04/26 12:23 AM
1

How do you change your personality? Everyone likes me and wants to be friends.
/r/seduction31/03/26 08:32 PM
1

I really dont know where to improve. I am in my deam career saving for a house. I am active in social groups, clubs and so on. I live an interesting life and have cool hobbies. I am in phenomenal fitness. And I am doing everything I can to be social every day and put myself out there and meet more people.
/r/seduction31/03/26 05:28 PM
1

I talk to women, but what can I do if I have never been able to go on a date due to everyone rejecting me?
/r/seduction31/03/26 04:35 PM
2

I dont even know what league I am in and I have a very hard time knowing what league girls are in. I am either attracted to them or I am not
/r/seduction31/03/26 04:22 PM
1

What do you mean by that? What should I be realistic about? I have never had a girl like me so should I just marry the first girl who does?
/r/seduction31/03/26 04:16 PM
3

I am going for 3-4s. And I know that I dont even deserve those girls as they are too good for me. As I have never even gotten a match or had anyone send me a like and random cold approaches have only led to rejection. I have tons of girl friends. A few who I have even liked, but none of them have ever found me attractive enough to like me more than a friend.
/r/seduction31/03/26 04:12 PM
1

Dont really know how to get rich. I work 50 to 60 hour weeks and I made 75k last year.
/r/seduction31/03/26 04:11 PM
6

Yes, but those girls who I am not attracted to are just good friends. Should a guy have to pop a viagra every time for the rest of his life? Is it wrong to want some basic attraction towards someone you spend your life with?
/r/seduction31/03/26 03:28 PM
2

Yeah, i dont those things
/r/seduction31/03/26 02:19 PM
14

How do you be realistic and learn to be attracted to the 1 or 2 that you barely attract?
/r/seduction31/03/26 05:31 AM
2

Boy how I wish that was true, and I am even tall. I have never gotten attention. Never gotten set up. Always been the friend. Never gotten a like or match. And none of my friends have ever known of any girl who has ever thought I was attractive
/r/seduction30/03/26 12:58 PM
1

I tried the numbers game in college and failed. Now days I jist dont know where to even meet girls who are single in their 20s
/r/seduction30/03/26 12:57 PM
2

Why? I would hate it there and probably become suicidal
/r/seduction30/03/26 12:56 PM
1

I dont know. Women have always just told me that they have only ever seen me as a friend
/r/seduction30/03/26 12:56 PM
2

I only met 3 last year, 2 of them only saw me as a friend by the time I started to find them attractive and the 3rd moved away
/r/seduction30/03/26 03:14 AM
-2

Oh I am, I probably cross paths with a couple hundred people a week pretty consistently so thats probaly 100 or so women.
/r/seduction30/03/26 01:55 AM
-5

your right, I dont approach much since 2 reasons. I am demisexual so I am only really ever attracted to close friends I am 27, theres almost no single girls my age anymore and I only meet a couple a year depsite being more social than 99% of guys on here aside from that, all my friends say that I am a great guy and there is a perfect girl out there for me and I just need to be patient. No one has ever known of anyone to introduce me to and my friends always struggle with coming up with advice fo…
/r/seduction30/03/26 01:40 AM
38

What else can you do if you have those things but are still sexually invisible to women?
/r/seduction29/03/26 11:19 PM
1

Thats easy and I make small talk with everyone, doesnt mean that I meet potential dates though.
/r/seduction08/03/26 04:04 AM
1

I was at the store this afternoon, mostly older people or young families.
/r/seduction08/03/26 04:04 AM
0

Sorry, under 21 is a no go for me.
/r/seduction08/03/26 04:03 AM
1

sadly bars are mostly guys or older couples if any women are at them at all. Just about every bar is a live music bar. What bands are GenZ? I am going to a Turnpike Troubadours concert later this year in a college town, that should be fun.
/r/seduction08/03/26 04:02 AM
1

I am in book clubs and I volunteer at church as well as the ski hill from time to time.
/r/seduction08/03/26 04:01 AM
1

All that is easy for me. I chat with random people on chairlifts when I am skiing all the time and I am always doing something social and meeting new people. Its just that I never seem to meet women who are still single
/r/seduction08/03/26 04:01 AM
5

it just feels so wrong. My friends tell me to not do it, my gut tells me to not do it, I dont have things in common with those kids. And those girls generally are asking me to set them up with some of my guy friends who are around their age so they arent interested in me anyways.
/r/seduction06/03/26 06:53 PM
2

1.2 million is more than my state lol
/r/seduction06/03/26 06:25 PM
2

I actually moved from there a few years ago for a dream career. Used to live in eugene after college in corvallis.
/r/seduction06/03/26 06:24 PM
4

18 year olds are in high school, they are in a totally different stage of life. They are trying to figure out how to be an adult and what to do with their lives and what college to go to. I am trying to balance my 401k and save for a house. I cant even take them on dates lol since they arent 21.
/r/seduction06/03/26 06:02 PM
3

Under 21, theres no work for me in large cities, dont really know if I want to pay to go back to college for another 4 years and I wouldnt even know what I would want to go into.
/r/seduction06/03/26 05:33 PM
2

did you read my post? I am in those things and they are not there.
/r/seduction06/03/26 05:00 PM
1

oh for sure I am missing something that I cant see myself.
/r/seduction06/03/26 04:49 PM
2

I went to a large state college with 30k students and despite doing what I was "supposed to", I never did attract any interest or go on any dates.
/r/seduction06/03/26 04:42 PM
2

I have been told to move to the south (nashville) a few times, but sadly theres nothing for me down there. My work isnt really outside the PNW unless I want to do a huge shift in my expertise as a forester. and I ski too much to entertain anything south of the north. I might visit nashville sometime soon ish if my friend moves there.
/r/seduction06/03/26 04:41 PM
2

Seattle is just one of the places that I have family. I dont get downtown much since family lives outside the city in the opposite direction of seattle as you leave the airport. I also have family south in Eugene oregon that I see more often. Used to live there after college as well. I met more single girls there, but I was younger so of course I met more single girls.
/r/seduction06/03/26 04:27 PM
5

I am looking for something long term, potentially marriage. I do have family in the Seattle and Salt Lake area and I try to travel there fairly often.
/r/seduction06/03/26 03:57 PM
7

I am in a decently sized city. Theres probably 50k people in the city and about 100k people within an hour drive/in the area. Theres a community college here, but the closest state university is 2 hours or so away.
/r/seduction06/03/26 03:48 PM
1

Those people are my friends, most are married. How do you approach people in grocery stores? They are there to shop. Same with me. Who do you approach in stores? Guys who just got off work? The older lady who is trying to read the label on beans? The mom wrangling 3-5 kids? I am ok with going down to young 20s, like 22-23. But under 21 is a no go. They are too young for me, different stage of life, and wouldnt even be interested in me anyways.
/r/seduction06/03/26 03:36 PM
1

I am 27, my age range is generally 22-23 to 35.
/r/seduction26/02/26 07:48 PM
3

cool thanks. i will try my best to meet single women. Its hard at my age, but I will try.
/r/seduction26/02/26 04:25 AM
1

No, I am asking for advice, what do I change? What do I add into my schedule, what new groups should I seek out? What new hobbies should I try out? This was just this week. Next week might have some differences, throw in a evening at a coffee shop, or a run club or something. I honestly feel stuck after doing the advice that gets told on here often. I am social, I try new things, I say yes to opportunities, and I try to put myself into places where I have a chance to meet people, but yet... Noth…
/r/seduction26/02/26 03:47 AM
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I copied this from another reply. What sort of clubs? I am active in sport clubs, run clubs and hobby clubs? I am not really a drinker but I do trivia at local brewpubs fairly often. I gave up apps because I went 7 years without even a like sent to me, and obviously no matches. Here has been my week and plans. Mon - feeling sickish so I did chores at home Tues - trivia at a brewery with friends (mostly couples or guys or older) Wed - tonight I went to the local avalanche centers fundraiser and s…
/r/seduction26/02/26 03:38 AM
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sure thing then. I cant wait to get run off by their obvious husbands who they are holding hands with. Its pretty easy to tell that a woman is married to the guy she is with. Ring? holding hands? In her 50s?
/r/seduction26/02/26 03:38 AM
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What sort of clubs? I am active in sport clubs, run clubs and hobby clubs? I am not really a drinker but I do trivia at local brewpubs fairly often. I gave up apps because I went 7 years without even a like sent to me, and obviously no matches. Here has been my week and plans. Mon - feeling sickish so I did chores at home Tues - trivia at a brewery with friends Wed - tonight I went to the local avalanche centers fundraiser and snowpack status presentation, ran into some friends and enjoyed the e…
/r/seduction26/02/26 03:35 AM
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How do you do that when you rarely meet a girl who is single who you are interested? I feel like now that I am 27, I am very quickly running out of options as everyone is married or in a relationship.
/r/seduction26/02/26 03:30 AM
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I am in the states, specifically montana. I havent approached those numbers since when I was in college. I was younger so less people were married then.
/r/seduction26/02/26 03:28 AM
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so should I approach and ask out women who are with a guy or who are wearing a ring?
/r/seduction26/02/26 03:28 AM
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I wish, I have gone through periods of my life where I didnt care and just lived my life without even trying to find women to ask out and I never attracted anyone.
/r/seduction26/02/26 03:27 AM
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then where do I find women who arent married or arent in a relationship?
/r/seduction25/02/26 11:34 PM
1

How do you increase volume? Specifically how do you meet women who are potential partners who arent already married?
/r/seduction25/02/26 11:31 PM
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What if you have a HUGE social network and still struggle to meet potential dates? I could walk into a random local event and I would easily know like half the people there. And the few times I do get introduced to someone who I might be interested in, its always the same thing, she thinks that I am a great guy but doesnt see me that way.
/r/seduction25/02/26 11:31 PM
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no, I have a boyfriend means that she has a boyfriend. Most women arent single once they are past their early 20s
/r/seduction25/02/26 11:30 PM
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How do you increase volume? Specifically how do you meet women who are potential partners who arent already married?
/r/seduction25/02/26 11:29 PM
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Where do you even find that many single girls a week? I am super social and I still only meet a handful of girls who are in their mid to late 20s and arent married in a YEAR.
/r/seduction25/02/26 11:29 PM
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Northern montana
/r/seduction20/02/26 12:34 AM
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when I do the same with girls they either ignore me or only see me as a friend.
/r/seduction18/02/26 11:10 PM
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I am in the states, correct. Northern montana to be specific. I have never been on a date, always been rejcted. I am told that they arent attracted to me, only see me as a friend, not interested in dating etc. The largest issue I think I have is that women are simply not interested in me. I struggle to have them put any effort in conversation when I try to chat with them. I never get likes or matches ( I will DM you my last attempt at hinge). My friends have never known anyone who might be remot…
/r/seduction18/02/26 03:00 PM
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How do you find a dating coach? My friends are either married or worse with women than I am lol. My married friends have no advice but to be patient.
/r/seduction18/02/26 02:43 PM
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I will check that out. Gaining weight, or attempting to... has been the hardest thing I have done
/r/seduction16/02/26 12:28 AM
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Thanks, the Hi was a gross overstatement to make a point really. But Yeah, I do try different openers, but they are mostly pretty simple, so I will try to be more varried.
/r/seduction15/02/26 09:23 PM
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Theres pics of me in my profile if you want to take a look.
/r/seduction15/02/26 09:01 PM
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How can I start doing that?
/r/seduction15/02/26 09:00 PM
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Like I will see a girl at an event or something, walk up and say Hi, she will then most of the time either ignore me or walk away.
/r/seduction15/02/26 03:18 PM
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I dont really know how to tease as whenever I have tried in the past (many years ago) it was met with her getting offended.
/r/seduction15/02/26 03:17 PM
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last time I tried to even hug a girl who was a friend of mine she looked repulsed and turned me town. I have long arms, but not long enough to reach girls with how far they stand from me.
/r/seduction15/02/26 03:14 PM
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I am 6'2", generally and outdoorsy style
/r/seduction15/02/26 03:10 PM
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I mean, I have never hugged a girl, so that tracks
/r/seduction15/02/26 03:06 AM
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so after reading your edit... Yeah, asked for number, snap, instagram etc... This was mostly at places like bowling alleys, football games, parties, an occasional bar (I dont drink and not a fan of bar atmospheres), and it was at a large state college with like 30k students. I am now in a smaller city, but I really dont care about looks since I am demisexual (I think) so I need an emotional connection to even have a chance of finding a girl attractive most of the time. I am at the point where I …
/r/seduction15/02/26 02:03 AM
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I did that when I was in college, easily over 100, I never got any results of any kind, all rejections
/r/seduction15/02/26 01:59 AM
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Thanks! If I am at a place that I go to frequently (like the climbing gym) and see a new face, I will approach and ask if she is new there and try to start a conversation that way.
/r/seduction15/02/26 01:58 AM
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ok, thanks for the clarification. Do you have any scripts I could follow that will get them to respond to me? Right now saying Hello and asking how their day is going isnt getting a response out of girls. Like most of the time I walk up to a girl at an event or party or something say "hey, How is it going?" they then turn and walk away.
/r/seduction14/02/26 08:02 PM
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Down to earth, adventurous, similar values, and a love for the outdoors.
/r/seduction14/02/26 07:43 PM
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well, I just posted some pics in a lookmaxxing sub, so hopefully I willget feedback
/r/seduction14/02/26 07:42 PM
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I am just trying to figure out how to get more than 1 or 2 words out of girls when I try to talk to them. I often dont know how to get them to not leave after I say hello.
/r/seduction14/02/26 06:55 PM
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Thats not even self esteem. Guys know I exist and want to chat with me when I say hello. Girls pretend to not even hear me when I say hello to them. How hard is that to understand? ------- Next time, go with the mindset that a girl who could’ve spent her time doing anything in this world is spending it talking to you, so there must be at least something interesting in you as a person. -------- Ideally yes, but I dont even get to the point of having a conversation with a girl 90% of the time.
/r/seduction14/02/26 06:30 PM
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Its not how I view them. I could hate women and think they were worthless and they still wouldnt even see me. I CANT even get a girl to chat with me..... GIRLS DO NOT even know that I even exist. I can say Hi to a girl and she will pretend to have not heard me. How do I change that?
/r/seduction14/02/26 06:29 PM
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How do you find a coach?
/r/seduction14/02/26 05:14 PM
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yes, someday. At this point, I just want girls to acknowledge that I actually exist. I am currently invisible to girls.
/r/seduction14/02/26 05:14 PM
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Yeah, I dont go to bible studies to meet women. I was just using that as an example since it was a recent event. I am a part of a ski group thats much more 50/50 and while most of the women are married, I am hoping that they introduce me to single friends someday. Yes, I was on dating apps on and off for 7 years. Tried most of them, from Tinder to Eharmony. I never once got a like or match.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:41 PM
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I am 27, 5 years out of college and in a completely different stage of life than a high schooler. I WILL NOT be entertaining anything with a kid, or anyone who cant legally get a drink. Yes, I am also waiting for marriage. I am a devout christian.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:29 PM
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What else can I say besides a simple hello and a compliment? Because I literally have one opening line to say before she becomes disinterested in me.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:28 PM
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What else can I say besides a simple hello and a compliment? Because I literally have one opening line to say before she becomes disinterested in me.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:28 PM
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When I was in college I actually did a couple long distance (3-6 month long) backpacking trips in the states. And now I spend my weekends hiking and backpacking in Glacier National Park.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:26 PM
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Yes, I have tried a bunch of different things. When I was in college I tried a ton of random cold approaches. But since I have taken quality over quantity. And when I would start to like a girl I knew or was friends with I would be direct with her and have a conversation about it with her. Hell yeah, I would date me. I am stable, can provide for a family, have cool ass hobbies and an adventurous lifestyle, I am funny and engaging.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:25 PM
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what sort of trauma could I even have? I have had a good life and nothing really too negative. Only thing I can think of is a lifetime of romantic rejection, but thats life, not trauma. How and where do I meet women in their mid to late 20s who arent married?
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:23 PM
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Eh, not really. Last night I went to a young adults bible study. 14 people total, 10 guys 4 girls. 2 girls were married and the other 2 were 18.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:21 PM
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Then where do I meet women around my age who arent married?
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:21 PM
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I will be asking more of my married friends for help
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:20 PM
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where would a tall outdoorsy thin white guy stand out and be attractive? And have women who are similar to me?
/r/seduction14/02/26 05:31 AM
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Sorry, but I dont think you understand. What you said is great and all. When you have a conversation.... Most of the time girls put ZERO effort into anything beyond a simple hello and how are you doing. They then often leave or start chatting with someone else. Its like girls avoid everything to do with me and do everything they can to not even entertain the thought of talking to me.
/r/seduction14/02/26 05:22 AM
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what if you never get any green lights from girls. They are always walled off around me
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:41 AM
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I feel like I just missed my chance since nearly every woman around my age is married or in a relationship. My type is down to earth outdoorsy girls and I feel like they should be interested in me since I am the same.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:40 AM
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I will keep that in mind. I try to be casual like I am with guys, but its been forever since I have had a conversation beyond an introduction.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:39 AM
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Thanks. Yeah I love the job. I am in the woods most days either counting trees, GPS tracking creeks, riding snowmobiles in the winter, or sitting in a fire lookout in the summer.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:38 AM
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I have never experienced that. Girls never want to talk around me
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:37 AM
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even getting to know girls is hard since they normally put no effort into a conversation or anything
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:15 AM
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Define successful? I have a good job, good at my hobbies, am slowly saving for a house, and am living my best life. Also most of my friends were married by 21, none of them were successful when they got married, they are building their lives together.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:14 AM
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I have lived in a few areas through college and post college and have never had luck or interest. I am currently living in a really good spot for work, community and hobbies and like minded people. I am outdoorsy and so are the women I am interested in.
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:12 AM
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This isnt even about flirting. I struggle to have conversations with girls most of the time since they put zero effort into it. They seemed annoyed that I am talking to them and I cant even get a two sided convsersation out of a girl.
/r/seduction14/02/26 12:10 AM
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not really sure, theres pics of me in my profile
/r/seduction13/02/26 11:17 PM
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I try, but I will 100% admit that I am not great. Its not often that I even get to a point with a girl where flirting could be acceptable. The lack of interest is early enough that theres no chance to flirt. When I have given compliments like what you said, girls tend to be dismissive. Like "oh, ok, thanks I guess" or simply ignore it and act like they didnt hear anything.
/r/seduction13/02/26 10:43 PM
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Hygiene is good. Theres pics of me on my profile that should give you an idea of my appearance. There are girls there, yes, however they are usually married or in a relationship. Like last night, I was playing volleyball with friends. A bunch of married couples, single guys my age and the 2 single girls were 19.
/r/seduction13/02/26 10:14 PM
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Why would I ask that? They told me that when I asked them out lol.
/r/seduction13/02/26 10:02 PM
1

I would say that I am in better shape than 95% of people. I run ultramarathons in the mountains. Rock climb, ski 50 days a winter, lift several days a week and so on. I read a lot of books at work for our book club. I am currently learning how to cook better.
/r/seduction13/02/26 09:58 PM
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I have always been improving myself. I was a pretty solid guy in college.
/r/seduction13/02/26 09:56 PM
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Most of my friends are younger and married, but I will ask them anyways.
/r/seduction13/02/26 09:56 PM
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So for career, I am a forester, make 68k a year, and have stupid good benefits and pension. Fitness, I lift a couple days a week but I am more of a runner and regularly run long runs in the mountains like 20 miles or more. I will ask some of my friends for feedback
/r/seduction13/02/26 09:55 PM
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what are city tiers? I am in a touristy ski town in the rocky mountains of the States. I am here for at least 2 more years due to work and wanting my retirement to be vested. then I will reasses my career and see if theres a better place for me, which isnt super likely due to my career being here, hobbies, friends, and like minded people. If I do move anywhere else, it will likely be northern washington north of seattle. My standards are be christian and enjoy the outdoors
/r/seduction13/02/26 09:29 PM
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I am a super outdoorsy guy and am active in run and ski clubs, as well as a bit of climbing. Also super involved in church groups.
/r/seduction13/02/26 09:27 PM
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No, I have lived here 3 years now. Grew up in one town, went to college at a large state college, and then moved to a larger city for about 2 years after college, traveled a bit (still do), and then moved to where I am currently living.
/r/seduction13/02/26 08:17 PM
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When girls have rejected me its usually for a few reasons. They tell me that they arent attracted to me They tell me that they only see me as a friend They say that they arent ready to date at the moment Thats really all I have. When I chat with a girl, 90% of the time its like talking to a brick wall. No interest or reception in conversation. They make no effort to chat with me, get to know me, or have a conversation (unless its needed)
/r/seduction13/02/26 08:15 PM
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what sample size is needed? In stats, you start to get a suitable sample size with the central limit theorem around 30-35 samples. I have asked out hundreds of women, mostly in college, but still, out of hundreds, not one was interested.
/r/seduction13/02/26 08:14 PM
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I do social things almost every night of the week. I probably cross paths with 150 people at least at these things, (a lot of overlap as well) and about half are women. But nearly all of those women are too young for me, or are married/in a relationship.
/r/seduction13/02/26 08:10 PM
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I initially tried approaching one girl a week to mainly get over social anxiety. But I generally started to approach more as it got easier. As usual, I never got any signs of interest or reciprocation from women. Its like I was (and still am) talking to a brick wall.
/r/seduction13/02/26 08:08 PM
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I generally meet mostly local people, but that tends to be through clubs and church groups. I have 2 more years living here with my job before my retirement is vested, so once that happens I will take a step back and see if theres anywhere else I want to move to or try out.
/r/seduction13/02/26 08:07 PM
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Just one partner, which will hopefully lead to marriage.
/r/seduction13/02/26 07:38 PM
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I think I am in a pretty good spot. I am in an area that has work, hobbies and a good amount of like minded people. But I just never seem to have any women interested in me, never have. And now with my age, I feel like I missed my chance since nearly everyone got married already.
/r/seduction13/02/26 07:38 PM
1

Your getting further and more than me. I have never even hugged a girl before.
/r/seduction13/02/26 07:37 PM
1

I live in a touristy ski town, its small yes, but I am always meeting new people and connecting with new friend groups.
/r/seduction13/02/26 07:18 PM
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Last year I asked out 2. I only met 3 single women around my age. and I felt like I could see myself being interested in 2 of them. Both werent interested. One was moving away soon and the other only saw me as a friend. the 3rd girl I wasnt even interested in but she sent me a text saying that she didnt want to date me after we went to a concert together (as 100% friends) When I was younger and in college and around a lot more women, I asked out hundreds, mostly random cold approaches. All rejec…
/r/seduction13/02/26 07:18 PM
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what action is there for me to take if women arent interested in me now?
/r/seduction13/02/26 07:14 PM
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I dont even know where to find 100 single women anymore lol. I did a lot of that random mass approaching when I was in college and I got nothing
/r/seduction13/02/26 07:14 PM
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Thanks, however, I have never been in a situation where its remotely possible or appropriate to touch a girl. Last night, again for an example. She was in no way giving any signs of interest (nor was I interested either), so there was no possible way or option for me to try to touch her.
/r/seduction13/02/26 06:38 PM
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I wish. I get dinner with friends a few times a month at different places and get nothing.
/r/seduction13/02/26 06:32 PM
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I can talk to people easily. I generally have a pretty good time at getting to know people. However with girls, it generally feels more forced that I am trying to get a conversation out of them because they arent chatty as guys are. Like last night, I was trying to chat with a girl at a group I go to and it felt like I was talking to a wall. Aside from that, I dont really know who to approach. I almost never see women around my age who arent with a guy or married. Like the girl last night was 19…
/r/seduction13/02/26 06:24 PM
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I am more social than most people and do social things 6 nights of the week. I am simply not what women want in a guy I gave up apps. I did 7 years on and off and never got anything, no matter where I lived.
/r/seduction05/02/26 01:40 AM
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currently northwest montana
/r/seduction05/02/26 01:31 AM
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Interesting. I dont meet many people from other countries. I am 6'2" and I have never gotten a like or match off of the apps.
/r/seduction05/02/26 01:24 AM
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human needs are needed for survival. Food, water, shelter. Intimacy is something you can survive without, therefore its a want.
/r/seduction05/02/26 01:23 AM
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Same, 3 degrees, I use 2 of them, and am shooting for a promotion that would allow me to use my 3rd. Same as you, in really good shape, social, educated, adventurous/cool hobbies, make 2x the median income for my area (68k, promotion would bring me to 74k), saving for a house, drive a newer car.... Still not good enough for anyone.
/r/seduction05/02/26 01:21 AM
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I am late 20s and have 3 degrees. I wouldnt be against a masters degree, but I would want my employer to pay for it and it would have to have benefit to my career. Guess what? I have yet to meet a woman who cares. The vast majority of women I meet either have a teaching degree, or no higher education. And I really dont care what a woman does either, as long as she can afford the life that she lives and isnt drowning in debt. I really dont think it matters, but who I am I to say anything, I cant …
/r/seduction05/02/26 01:18 AM
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dude I have no idea. What I do know is that I am demisexual so I only really ever like close friends of mine.
/r/seduction07/11/25 12:48 AM
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I got mine for free since my roommates have good cameras and do wedding photoshoots, and I have been in weddings.
/r/seduction06/11/25 03:18 AM
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ok, aside from location (due to my dream job and lifestyle), I have done those. What else can someone do to become attractive?
/r/seduction06/11/25 03:17 AM
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what if those young professionals stay at home or are married with kids?
/r/seduction21/05/25 08:28 PM
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target is dead. Only kids or old people go there.
/r/seduction21/05/25 08:28 PM
0

how do you find those places who have people that arent married or guys?
/r/seduction21/05/25 08:27 PM
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exactly. While I do have an instagram, its more to share photos of my trips or send memes to friends instead of trying to show myself off. I have a few hundred followers, but only like 3 pics of me on it. A selfie or two with family, and one or two good pics of me. That being said, I often exchange instagrams over numbers because I dont have cell service 90% of the time and instagram has turned into my primary messaging app.
/r/seduction24/01/25 05:43 PM
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Some struggle a lot with this - I am one of those people sadly. Not on the spectrum, just not good at figuring out where I am lacking compared to other men. I agree with your comment on style. I am not that well groomed, and can improve on that. Again, I have a hard time judging whats good so I rely on my girl friends to help me out.
/r/seduction28/06/24 09:00 PM
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how do you start to figure out why your unattractive?
/r/seduction28/06/24 07:41 PM
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